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I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
PLEASE TAKE ROLL.ALL 5 COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE.
PLEASE JOIN ME [INAUDIBLE] TO THE PLEDGE OF OUR FLAG.
NEXT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD APRIL 9TH OF 2024.[PRESENTATIONS]
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INVITE.MICHAEL, [INAUDIBLE] AND MARCO TO THE PODIUM AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR ARBOR WEEK.
THE HOLIDAY ENTERED I'M SORRY.
THE HOLIDAY, ENTITLED ARBOR DAY, IS NOW OBSERVED THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND THE WORLD.
ARBOR DAY PROVIDES AN EXCELLENT PLATFORM TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN HEALTHY FORESTS, ECOSYSTEMS, PEOPLE AND ECONOMIES. THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS TREE CITY USA BY THE NATIONAL ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION AND THE USDA FOREST SERVICE FOR THE 20TH CONSECUTIVE YEAR, AND DESIRES TO CONTINUE TREE PLANTING AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. THE CITY OF CARLSBAD WILL CELEBRATE ARBOR WEEK BY HAVING VOLUNTEERS PLANT TREES, GATHER INFORMATION ON TREES AND VIEW EQUIPMENT DISPLAYS AT UPCOMING ARBOR DAY EVENTS.
I THEREFORE, [INAUDIBLE] KEITH BLACKBURN.
ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF APRIL 21ST THROUGH 27TH OF 2024 AS ARBOR WEEK IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? YES. GOOD EVENING.
I AM THE PARKS TREE SUPERVISOR FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
I AM PLEASED TO BE JOINED THIS EVENING BY MR. MARCO DEANDA, CAL FIRE REGIONAL URBAN FORESTER, AND MR. MICHAEL BINGER, TREE TRIMMER LEAD WORKER FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
THANK YOU, MAYOR BLACKBURN AND CITY CITY COUNCIL.
FOR SUPPORTING OUR ANNUAL ARBOR DAY EVENT AND ONGOING TREE CARE OPERATIONS.
PLEASE CONSIDER OUR INVITATION TO HELP US PLANT A TREE.
THIS CANOPY INCLUDES OVER 45,000 TREES IN TOTAL AND OVER 30,000 INVENTORIED TREES LOCATED IN PARKS, TRAILS, FACILITIES, MEDIANS AND PARKWAYS. CITY STAFF, AGAIN SUPPORTED BY OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS, ARE PART OF THE AFTER HOUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM TO REMOVE TREE HAZARDS IMPACTING TRANSPORTATION AND PROPERTY.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. MARCO DEANDA WITH CAL FIRE TO SPEAK ABOUT TREE CITY USA AND THE BENEFITS OF THE PROGRAM.
THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TODAY.
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION AND THE URBAN AND COMMUNITY FORESTRY PROGRAM.
I'M THE REGIONAL URBAN FORESTER FOR SAN DIEGO, ORANGE COUNTY AND IMPERIAL COUNTY.
THERE WERE THE FOUNDATION RECOGNIZES CITIES FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO TREES.
ONE OF THEM IS A TREE BOARD, A TREE CARE ORDINANCE A $2 PER TREE OR PER CAPITA BUDGET FOR TREE MAINTENANCE AND AN ARBOR DAY PROCLAMATION.
THIS IS THE 20TH YEAR THAT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS RECEIVES THIS AWARD.
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YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THAT.AS THE COMMUNITY CAN ENTIRE COMMUNITIES BENEFIT FROM FOR WHAT TREES HAVE TO OFFER? BEAUTY COOLER TEMPERATURES AND JUST TO BEAR THROUGHOUT ECOLOGY FOR ANIMALS AND INSECTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THIS IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.
ME AS THE REGIONAL URBAN FORESTER REPRESENTING SAN DIEGO AND PEARL COUNTY AND ORANGE COUNTIES, IT IS A GREAT PLEASURE TO RECOGNIZE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND ITS OFFICIALS AND ITS PEOPLE WITH THE TREE CITY, USA CERTIFICATE AND AWARD.
CONGRATULATIONS AND AGAIN, THANK YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS. WILL YOU GUYS PLEASE JOIN THE COUNCIL DOWN HERE FOR A QUICK PHOTOGRAPH? [INAUDIBLE].
NEXT IS A REPORT OUT ON CLOSED SESSION.
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
MAYOR. THERE WAS NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
I HAVE TO READ THE FOLLOWING.THE BROWN ACT AND THE CITY'S MEETING RULES ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS ARE REGARDING MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.
INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.
THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES.
NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN MAKING YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.
THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THE 2.5 MINUTE MARK.
THE LIGHT WILL TURN YELLOW, GIVING YOU NOTICE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE 30S LEFT.
I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THREE MINUTES.
THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO TALK.
PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAJOR BLACKBURN AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY.
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AND THEIR POTENTIAL HEALTH IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY ON CHILDREN.THE QUESTION BECOMES SHOULD THE FINANCIAL INTEREST OVERSHADOW PRECAUTION, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE HEALTH OF OUR CHILDREN? AS RESPONSIBLE GUARDIANS OF OUR CHILDREN'S WELFARE, WE MUST ADVOCATE FOR THE SAFETY, INCLUDING PROTECTING THEM AGAINST RISK SUCH AS EMF EXPOSURE.
BY IGNORING COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND PROCEEDING WITHOUT CLEAR EVIDENCE OF SAFETY, AUTHORITIES RISK EXPOSING CHILDREN TO POTENTIAL HARM AND UNDERMINING THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF PARENTS TO PROTECT THEIR CHILDREN'S WELL-BEING.
IF HEALTH CONCERNS ARE NOT, DO NOT CONVINCE.
LET US CONSIDER A DIFFERENT ANGLE.
INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAW MANDATES A HIGHER STANDARD OF PROTECTION FOR KIDS.
ANY FORM OF ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION, SORRY.
POSING A LONG TERM THREAT TO CHILDREN'S RIGHTS MAY CONSTITUTE A HUMANS RIGHT VIOLATION.
THE LACK OF LEGISLATION REGULATING CELL TOWERS NEAR SCHOOLS IS INDEED A HUMAN RIGHTS CONCERN.
WE'RE NOT ALONE IN OUR APPREHENSION.
NUMEROUS JURISDICTIONS HAVE IMPLEMENTED SETBACKS FOR SCHOOLS TO PROTECT AGAINST POTENTIAL HARM, LIKE MASSACHUSETTS, NEW YORK, OKLAHOMA, AND MULTIPLE CITIES AND COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA, JUST TO NAME A FEW.
THERE IS OVER 240 SCIENTISTS URGING THE UNITED NATIONS TO REDUCE EXPOSURE.
PEER REVIEWED STUDIES AND COUNTRIES LIKE FRANCE, DENMARK, GREECE, KOREA, TURKEY AND AUSTRALIA THAT PUBLICLY MEASURE RF EXPOSURE AND HAVE CONFIRMED CONTRIBUTIONS OF CELL TOWER DAMAGE.
THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE OF DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL RESEARCH AND THIS CANNOT BE IGNORED.
AGAIN, DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE DOES NOT, IS NOT IS INCONCLUSIVE.
BUT THE ABSENCE OF DISPROVING EVIDENCE DOES NOT DISMISS OUR LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.
WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH OUT THERE, AS WELL AS OUR VOICES REGARDING POTENTIAL HARM FOR KIDS, AND TO SEEK AN ALTERNATE LOCATION FOR THE CELL TOWER. THANK YOU.
MA'AM AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM IS JEFF MURPHY.
WOULD YOU PLEASE TALK TO HIM? I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE SOME NEWS FOR YOU THAT YOU'LL BE HAPPY ABOUT.
IT'S SO NICE TO BE HERE AND TO SEE EVERYONE.
I AM HAPPY TO FIND OUT THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BLAME SCOTT CHADWICK FOR EVERYTHING BECAUSE. THE CITY COUNCIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT GOES ON.
YOU'RE THE GOVERNING BODY AND YOU ADVISE SCOTT AS TO WHAT YOU WANT.
SO IF THINGS ARE NOT WORKING WELL.
YES, YOU CAN SAY EVERYTHING'S PERFECT IN THE CITY.
AND THEN WE'D LAUGH AND MOVE ON AND SAY, YOU'VE HAD TOO MUCH TO DRINK IF YOU DRINK.
THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THE SAFETY AND THE WELL-BEING OF SENIORS AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
IF YOU ALLOW THE SENIORS CENTER, MANAGEMENT PARK AND REC.
TO BAN SENIORS FOR NINE MONTHS OR MORE.
THEY LEARN HOW TO DEAL WITH ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MARY LUCID COMING TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF I DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PARK AND WRECKERS WHO DON'T SEEM TO BE WILLING TO DO THINGS FOR SENIORS AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
I MEAN, WHO DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO GIVE SENIORS SALAD?
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GREEN SALADS? THAT USED TO BE THE NORM, BUT YOU SAVE A FEW BUCKS ON YOUR LUNCH PROGRAM.WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR YOUR SENIORS IN YOUR CITY? HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM OR NOT GIVE THEM? OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM SALADS.
BUT THERE USED TO BE TWO CUSTOMER SERVICE PEOPLE AT THE FRONT.
GOD KNOWS IT CERTAINLY NEEDS ATTENTION.
ELLA CREVALLE, FOLLOWED BY GARY GONSALVES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I LIVE IN LA COSTA CANYON AND I LIVE IN LA COSTA, AND I'M A SENIOR AT LA COSTA CANYON HIGH SCHOOL.
I MOVED TO CARLSBAD EIGHT YEARS AGO AND I IMMEDIATELY FELL IN LOVE WITH IT HERE.
THE GORGEOUS BEACHES, MANY PARKS, AMAZING HIKING TRAILS AND FANTASTIC COMMUNITY FACILITIES SUCH AS EL NORTE AQUATIC CENTER, WHERE I NOW WORK AS A LIFEGUARD AND SWIM INSTRUCTOR, ALL CONTRIBUTE TO THE ENRICHMENT THE CITY OFFERS AND HAS PROVIDED MY CHILD WITH CHILDHOOD WITH.
HOWEVER, WITH ALL THESE PERKS COMES A VERY EXPENSIVE PRICE TAG OF LIVING IN CARLSBAD.
IN THE JUNE 20TH, 2023 STUDY, CARLSBAD WAS RANKED THE LEAST AFFORDABLE HOUSING MARKET IN THE SAN DIEGO METRO AREA, WHERE A HOUSEHOLD SPENDS 69% OF THEIR INCOME ON MORTGAGE AND PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS.
THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE IN CARLSBAD IS $1.5 MILLION, AND THE COST OF LIVING INDEX FOR HOUSING ESTIMATES THE COST OF HOUSING IN CARLSBAD TO BE 215.6% ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
WHILE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS STATED THAT THEY REQUIRE NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS TO SET ASIDE 15% OF UNITS AS AFFORDABLE OR PAY INTO A CITY FUND, WHICH IS USED TO DEVELOP FUTURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SINCE THE PAST 30 YEARS, ONLY 2000 HAVE BEEN BUILT AND THERE ARE 44,000 HOUSES IN CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, WHICH MEANS THAT 4% OF HOUSING HAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS BEEN BUILT. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO INCREASE THIS EXPANSION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS CRUCIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
WHEN PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEY CAN ALLOCATE MORE OF THEIR INCOME TOWARDS OTHER GOODS AND SERVICES, WHICH IN HAND BOOSTS LOCAL BUSINESSES AND STIMULATES ECONOMIC GROWTH.
INVESTING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS A COMMUNITY CAN MAKE.
THEREFORE, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO PRIORITIZE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ENSURING THAT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO SAFE, DECENT AND AFFORDABLE HOMES SO THAT MORE PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THE GREAT ASPECTS OF CARLSBAD THAT I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE AND APPRECIATE SO MUCH OVER THESE PAST EIGHT YEARS.
GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS GARY [INAUDIBLE]. I'M FROM THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ASSOCIATION.
I HAVE TWO GREAT PIECES OF NEWS FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
I SENT A FLIER TO ALL OF YOU EARLIER TODAY.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ACTUALLY RECEIVED IT, BUT IF NOT, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET ONE.
YOUTH AVIATION DAY IS ALL ABOUT INTRODUCING KIDS TO THE AIRPORT, TO AVIATION, GIVING THEM A HANDS ON EXPERIENCE WITH ALL THAT THE AIRPORT HAS TO OFFER AND IT IS INCREDIBLY POPULAR, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU'LL HELP US SPREAD THE NEWS ABOUT IT.
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AVIATORS. WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF DOOR PRIZES, FREE REFRESHMENTS, SNACKS.IT IS SUPER EXPENSIVE AND THE WHOLE THING IS FREE, SO WE LIKE TO GET THE WORD OUT.
WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE KIDS TO GET INTO AVIATION.
WE WANT TO SHOW THEM THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AND WE WANT TO HELP FOSTER THE AVIATION DREAMS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WHAT AGE GROUP FOR THE YOUTH ARE YOU FOCUSING ON? ANY AGE THAT WANTS TO SHOW UP.
SO WE DO A NUMBER OF LECTURES AT THIS PARTICULAR EVENT THAT TALK ABOUT THE SCIENCE BEHIND FLIGHT.
SO THE FOUR FORCES OF FLIGHT, THE PROPELLER, WHAT HAPPENS IN EMERGENCIES? WE GIVE LECTURES THAT ARE KIND OF VERY SHORT LECTURES THAT ARE AIMED AT KIDS, PROBABLY FROM ABOUT EIGHTH GRADE TO EARLY HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT GETTING KIDS OUT THERE AND GETTING THEM EXCITED.
THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS. NEXT IS
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND TWO.DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.
DOES ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL CHOOSE TO PULL ONE OF THOSE TWO ITEMS? MOTION, PLEASE.
MOVE CONSENT ITEMS ONE AND TWO.
[3. PARK LAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS AND PARK LAND IN-LIEU FEES ]
CITY MANAGER. YES.MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY AS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, KYLE LANCASTER.
GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL.
TONIGHT. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF CONSULTANTS HERE AS WELL.
WE WANT TO COVER THE CITY PLANS THAT REFERENCE THE STUDY AND THE BACKGROUND OF THAT STUDY.
THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AND IN- LIEU FEE ITSELF.
ASPECTS OF THE QUIMBY ACT AND HOW CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 20.44 TIES TO THAT.
THE CARLSBAD PARK IN LIEU FEE CALCULATION AND THE PROPOSED PARK AND IN-LIEU FEE PHASING AND FINALLY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND NEXT STEPS. SPECIFIC TO YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
YOU HAVE A GOAL OF ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND FISCAL HEALTH IN PARTICULAR.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT MASTER PLAN, WHICH YOU JUST APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER.
AS A CHAPTER FOR A STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AND ONE OF THOSE PARK STRATEGIES IN THE SHORT TERM IS TO COMPLETE A PARKS IN LIEU FEE STUDY AND PRESENT THE FINDINGS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND DIRECTION.
IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND ON THE STUDY.
CARLSBAD'S PARK LAND IN LIEU FEES WERE LAST INCREASED IN 2005, SO IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MISS KISSAM TO TALK ABOUT THE STUDY ITSELF.
A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
PRETTY HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE QUIMBY ACT AND KIND OF THE FINDINGS OF OUR ANALYSIS FOR YOU.
SO THESE FEES ARE AUTHORIZED BY THE QUIMBY ACT, GOVERNMENT CODE 66 477.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE SUBDIVISION MAP ACT.
THESE FEES APPLY ONLY TO RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS AND BASICALLY, THE QUIMBY ACT REQUIRES DEDICATION OF LAND FOR PARKS FROM SUBDIVISION PROJECTS OR PAYMENT OF FEES IN LIEU OF LAND DEDICATION.
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REQUIREMENT IS SET BY THE QUIMBY ACT AS THE EXISTING RATIO OF PARK ACRES PER POPULATION AS OF THE LAST OFFICIAL CENSUS.YOU'LL SEE IN OUR REPORT THAT WE CALCULATED A STANDARD BASED ON THAT FORMULA A LITTLE BIT BELOW THREE ACRES, BUT THE QUIMBY ACT ALLOWS A MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES PER 1000 POPULATION AND A MAXIMUM OF FIVE ACRES PER 1000 POPULATION.
FOR THE FEE IN LIEU OF LAND DEDICATION.
THAT FEE IS BASED, IT'S PER UNIT BASED ON ACRES PER CAPITA.
UNDEVELOPED LAND, ACRE, LAND VALUE PER ACRE AND POPULATION PER UNIT.
SO THOSE WERE THE VARIABLES THAT WE WERE REALLY ANALYZING DURING THIS STUDY AND TRYING TO UPDATE FOR THE CITY AND MANY CITIES WITH REGARD TO THE LAND VALUE PER ACRE APPROACH, THAT AS A CITYWIDE LAND VALUE PER ACRE.
ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE QUIMBY ACT IS ITS FLEXIBILITY IN THE USE OF FUNDS.
SO UNLIKE IMPACT FEES THESE REVENUES CAN BE USED TO CONSTRUCT PARKS BUT ALSO IMPROVE EXISTING PARKS AND THESE ARE NOT IMPACT FEES. THEY THEY KIND OF LOOK AND BEHAVE LIKE IMPACT FEES, BUT THEY ARE SEPARATE LAW.
SO THE QUIMBY ACT ALSO REQUIRES THAT THE LOCAL JURISDICTION IMPLEMENT THE LAW IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
THAT'S THE STANDARD MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER OF UNITS OF THE PROJECT.
IT TALKS ABOUT HOW TO ESTABLISH THAT LAND VALUE, WHICH NOT ALL JURISDICTIONS HAVE THAT.
SO IN CALCULATING THE IN-LIEU FEE FOR THIS PROJECT, WE APPLIED THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF THREE ACRES PER THOUSAND, WHICH IS 0.003 PER CAPITA. AND THEN BASED ON THE LAND VALUE SURVEY THAT WAS ACTUALLY SUPPORTED BY CITY STAFF, FOLLOWING THE PROCESS THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE MUNI CODE, IT CAME OUT AT ABOUT 1.8 MILLION PER ACRE, WHICH IS WHAT KYLE WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT SINCE 2005.
THAT'S PROBABLY REALLY CHANGED IN CARLSBAD QUITE A BIT.
SO .003 ACRES PER CAPITA, MULTIPLIED BY THE LAND VALUE PER ACRE, COMES UP WITH $5,472.44 PER CAPITA.
NOW WE HAVE TO TRANSLATE TO THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO IN THIS TABLE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THAT WE'VE RESTRUCTURED THE CITY'S FEE SCHEDULE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BY MORE LIKE A LAND USE FORMAT, MOBILE HOME, ATTACHED DWELLING, DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY.
WE'VE ACTUALLY NOW TRANSITIONED THAT TO SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED FEES, WHICH ARE IN LINE EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE NOT ARE NOT IMPACT FEES, THEY'RE IN LINE WITH THE NEW REQUIREMENTS OF IMPACT FEES THAT LOOK AT PROPORTIONALITY RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE SIZE.
SO WE'RE KIND OF SHOULD THE CITY EVER WANT TO IMPOSE ADDITIONAL FEES FOR RESIDENTIAL, YOU'RE NOW KIND OF IN LINE TO HAVE THOSE MATCH UP ACCORDINGLY AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE POPULATION PER UNIT FACTOR MULTIPLIED BY THE COST PER CAPITA FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE TO GET TO THE END IN-LIEU FEE PER UNIT BY TIER OF SQUARE FOOTAGE PER UNIT.
THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS IN THE CLEAR ROWS.
THOSE ARE THE CITIES EXISTING FEE SCHEDULE AND THEN WE'VE TRIED TO KIND OF EQUIVOCATE THAT BY SHOWING THE RANGES OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HOW THE FEES COMPARE AND YOU CAN SEE THE CITIES CURRENT FEES ARE REALLY THE SAME FOR EACH DISTRICT, EXCEPT FOR THE NORTHWEST PARK DISTRICT AND THIS STUDY IS REALLY RECOMMENDING THE SAME FEE FOR EVERY DISTRICT.
BACK TO YOU, KYLE. YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU. SO THIS SLIDE IS QUITE BUSY, BUT IT'S ALSO IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
AND WHAT IT REALLY REFLECTS IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO IMPLEMENT THIS INCREASE OVER A THREE FISCAL YEAR PERIOD, IN PARTICULAR, TAKING ROUGHLY ONE THIRD OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING FEE AND THE PROPOSED FEE AND IMPLEMENTING THAT IN 2024-25, THEN AGAIN, ANOTHER THIRD IN 25-26 AND THE FINAL THIRD IN 26-27.
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IN 2005, WE INSTEAD, AS MISS KISSAM INDICATED, HAVE A WEIGHTED AVERAGE ACROSS ALL FOUR DISTRICTS.LAST MONTH, WE SENT AN EMAIL TO THE BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION, AND WE ALSO SENT A LIKE EMAIL TO 20 LOCAL INDUSTRY ADVISORY GROUP REPRESENTATIVES. ADDITIONALLY, WE SET UP A DEDICATED PARKS AND RECREATION WEBPAGE ESTABLISHED WITH A SUMMARY OF THIS STUDY AND DATA LINKS.
LATER IN MARCH, WE BRIEFED THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION ON THIS STUDY.
WE WOULD AGAIN INCREASE THE FEE OVER THE NEXT THREE FISCAL YEARS AS I DESCRIBED.
ADDITIONALLY, AT THE END OF THAT THIRD FISCAL YEAR, 2627, AND EVERY THREE FISCAL YEARS THEREAFTER, WE WOULD REEVALUATE THE PARK PER ACRE UNDEVELOPED LAND COST AND RECALCULATE THE PARK AND LIEU FEE, AS APPLICABLE.
AND THEN IF CHANGES WERE RECOMMENDED, WE WOULD BRING THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE RECOMMENDED ACTION ONE.
HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND TWO, ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING UPDATED PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS AND THE PHASED IN INCREASE OF PARKLAND IN LIEU FEES OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD ANNUALLY, APPLYING APPROXIMATELY ONE THIRD THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING PARKLAND IN LIEU FEES AND THE PROPOSED PARKLAND IN LIEU FEES OVER FISCAL YEARS 24, 25, 25, 26 AND 2027.
THANK YOU. I'M OPENING PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE ONE THAT SUBMITTED THEIR REQUEST TO SPEAK IN THE TIME THAT WAS ALLOTTED.
AND WE HAVE ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED WHEN? AFTER THE PRESENTATION BEGAN.
MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY.
I WANTED TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS ISSUE THAT WE KNOW WE NEED PARKS AND THREE ACRES PER 1000 RESIDENTS IS A MINIMUM AND NOW WE'VE HEARD FOR A LONG TIME THAT AT BUILD OUT, CARLSBAD WILL MEET THAT DEMAND.
BUT BECAUSE OF NEW STATE LAWS AND BECAUSE OF CONVERTING MAYBE OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS BUILD OUT MAY ACTUALLY MEAN.
SO ALLOWING IN LIEU OF FEES DOESN'T CREATE MORE PARKLAND AND I DO APPLAUD THE FACT THAT THESE FEES ARE ABOUT TO BE RAISED BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WAY TOO LOW FOR FAR TOO LONG.
ANYWAY I DO HAVE A CONCERN, THOUGH, ABOUT PHASING IT IN OVER THREE YEARS BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY HAVING RAPID DEVELOPMENT AND THE PHASE IN ONLY INCENTIVIZES DEVELOPERS TO BUILD A LOT MORE IN THEIR EARLIER YEARS BEFORE THE FEES GO UP IN THE YEAR TWO AND THREE. AND YOU MAY END UP COLLECTING A LOT LESS THAN WHAT YOU EXPECT BECAUSE OF FACTORS LIKE THAT.
SO I WOULD JUST URGE THAT WHEREVER POSSIBLE, YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPERS ACTUALLY DEDICATE PARK LAND RATHER THAN IN LIEU OF FEES TO BE USED FOR PARKS THAT NEVER END UP BEING BUILT.
AND ALSO CONSIDER PHASING IT IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IF YOU HAVE TO PHASE IT IN AT ALL.
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THANK YOU. REGARDING THE NEXT SPEAKER, OUR POLICY IS THAT SPEAKER SLIPS HAVE TO BE IN BEFORE THE MATTER IS CALLED, AND IT TAKES ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO AGREE TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO VIOLATE THE OR NOT.THIS SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT CRASS TO BE TO ACCEPT THE SPEAKER AFTER WE'VE STARTED.
SO THAT'S WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HEARING THE SPEAKER WHO SUBMITTED AFTER WE BEGAN AND IS THAT THE ONLY OTHER SPEAKER? YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU.
MAYOR? YES. CAN YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE? CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU.
MISS BURKHOLDER. THANK YOU, MR. LANCASTER. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO FOR REACHING OUT TO BIA.
THIS IS A BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION OBVIOUSLY HAS A LOT OF INPUT INTO THINGS.
SO I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DID ON THIS.
THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK AND THE CONSULTANTS AS WELL, FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE METHODOLOGY AND ENSURING THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A DATA INFORMED DECISION THAT WE ARE MAKING TODAY.
IT'S STILL NOT THERE, BUT IT'S CLOSER TO AND I ALSO THINK THE PHASED IN APPROACH IS APPROPRIATE.
I'LL JUST MAKE THE MOTION FOR A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.
[4. ADVERTISE FOR BIDS FOR THE STAGECOACH COMMUNITY GARDEN PROJECT, CIP PROJECT NO. 4611]
GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO ADVERTISE FOR BIDS FOR THE STAGECOACH COMMUNITY GARDEN PROJECT.GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, SIR, AND GOOD EVENING AGAIN.
I WILL LEAD THE PRESENTATION OFF, AND MR. STUPIN TO MY RIGHT WILL TAKE THE BULK IN THE MIDDLE.
SO DIVING IN AGAIN A LITTLE SHORTER AGENDA FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
WE DO WANT TO REFERENCE THE CITY PLANS AND THE PROJECT BACKGROUND.
WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE CONVERSION OF THE PARKS MAINTENANCE YARD TO A COMMUNITY GARDEN WILL ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE, AND THEN GIVE YOU SOME DESIGN FEATURES OF THIS COMMUNITY GARDEN.
THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE STEP FORWARD IN OUR OPINION.
IT BROADENS THE SERVICE AREA FOR COMMUNITY GARDENS.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS, MEANING ULTIMATELY AWARDING A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AND HAVING THIS BUILT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FISCAL ANALYSIS, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY TIE TO THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE JUST FINISHED.
SO MAKING THE TIE TO YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN COMMUNITY CHARACTER IS ONE OF YOUR FIVE GOALS AND THAT BASICALLY INDICATES THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN CARLSBAD'S UNIQUE COMMUNITY, CHARACTER AND CONNECTEDNESS.
ONE OF THE EXCUSE ME, ONE OF THE PARKS STRATEGIES IS TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION IMPLEMENTATION FOR COMMUNITY GARDEN AT STAGECOACH COMMUNITY PARK.
BACKGROUND THIS PROJECT AGAIN.
FIVE PLUS YEARS AGO, STAFF THEN CONSIDERED REPURPOSING THE MAINTENANCE YARD AS A COMMUNITY GARDEN TO ADDRESS THE WELL KNOWN COMMUNITY NEED, AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
WE ALSO WORKED WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY PLANNER IN PARTICULAR, TO RECEIVE A CONSISTENCY DETERMINATION ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PARK.
AND LASTLY, WE CONSULTED WITH THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY GARDENS COLLABORATIVE, BOARD MEMBERS ON THE LAYOUT AND CERTAIN DETAILS OF THE PLANS, AND FOR FURTHER INFORMATION REGARDING THE EXISTING YARD AND THE CONVERSION TO A GARDEN.
THANK YOU, MR. DIRECTOR, AND GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
SO THE BIG QUESTION ALWAYS IS WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE?
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AND HOW IS THIS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE USER EXPERIENCE GOING TO BE? THE FIRST THING WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING DOWN THE CHAIN LINK FENCE AND REPLACING IT WITH A FENCE THAT'S MORE SIMILAR TO THE PINE AVENUE COMMUNITY GARDEN. SO VERY NATURAL PRODUCT.VERY TRANSPARENT. SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT INSIDE OUT INTERFACE WITH THE GARDEN.
SOME KEY FEATURES WITHIN THE GARDEN.
WE WILL BE HAVING 35 RAISED BEDS.
THERE'LL BE AN INFORMATIONAL KIOSK WHICH WILL GIVE IMPORTANT COMMUNITY UPDATES WITHIN THE GARDEN.
USUAL ALL THE THINGS THAT COMPOSTING BINS AND SUCH.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMMUNAL GATHERING SPACE.
THIS IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER WITHIN THE GARDEN.
YOU SEE THE 35 BEDS LAID OUT IN MORE OR LESS THE GRID PATTERN THAT ALLOWS FOR EQUAL ACCESS AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO TRANS TRANSVERSE FOR THE SPACE.
THERE WILL BE A CLEAR ADA PATH THROUGH INTO THE GARDEN FROM THE PARKING LOT AND THE HEART OF THE GARDEN, THERE IS THAT COMMUNAL GATHERING SPACE AND TWO OF THE BEDS HERE ARE ADA RAISED BED GARDEN PLOTS.
HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE RAISED BEDS LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS OUR SCHOOLHOUSE GARDEN OVER AT CALAVERA HILLS.
THERE'S A DETAIL TO THE RIGHT THAT SHOWS THAT ADA BED AND THAT AS IT'S SHOWN THERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S EASY FOR FOLKS TO COME RIGHT UP TO THE GARDEN AND TEND TO THEIR BED.
THIS MEANS THAT WE'LL HAVE COMMUNITY GARDENS IN THREE OF OUR FOUR PARK DISTRICTS.
WE'LL GET TO THE FOURTH VERY SOON, HOPEFULLY.
OUR NEXT STEP HERE WILL BE CONDUCTING A BIDDING AND EVALUATION PHASE FOR BIDS OF CONTRACTORS.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING HAVING THOSE BIDS SECURED AND COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL BY JUNE TO AWARD A CONTRACT AND THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY FOUR MONTHS AND WILL WRAP BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND I'LL PICK UP WITH FISCAL ANALYSIS.
TO DATE, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROPRIATED $437,000 FROM THE AFOREMENTIONED PARK IN LIEU FEE FUND, ALSO NOW KNOWN AS THE PARK DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL PROJECT FUND, AND BASED ON THE RECENT ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE AND ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION OF $183,000, IS NEEDED TO FULLY ADDRESS THE PROJECT'S COMPONENTS.
WE WILL WE ARE REQUESTING THAT TONIGHT THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COSTS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT $72,000 PER YEAR, AND THOSE WILL BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE BUDGET SUBMITTALS TO THE COUNCIL AND THIS IS THE TABLE THAT IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT BASICALLY JUST PROVIDES LINE ITEMS INDICATING THE OVERALL $183,000 APPROPRIATION NEEDED AND THAT LEADS US TO THE RECOMMENDED ACTION. ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PLAN SPECIFICATIONS AND CONTRACT DOCUMENTS FOR THE STAGECOACH COMMUNITY GARDEN AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK TO TO ADVERTISE THE PROJECT FOR PUBLIC BIDS, AND THEN FINALLY AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNATE APPROPRIATE $183,000 FROM THE PARK DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL PROJECT FUND PARK IN LIEU SOUTHEAST TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET.
WITH THAT STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES. PATRICE [INAUDIBLE].
YES. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS PATRICE [INAUDIBLE].
I'M A MEMBER OF THE ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY GARDENS COLLABORATIVE.
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SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING ONE, A NEW 1 IN 2024.A PLACE THAT THAT MANY OF US ENJOY.
I'VE BEEN OVER TO THE PARK, AND PEOPLE ARE ARE THRILLED TO KNOW WE'VE GOT A GARDEN GOING ON.
POSSIBLY IT ALLOWS GARDEN GARDENERS TO GARDEN CLOSE TO HOME.
WE SEE THIS ESPECIALLY AT PINE AVENUE GARDEN, WHERE GARDENERS CAN WALK TO THEIR PLOT.
CERTAINLY HELPS WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES.
SO I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY SEE THE SAME THING AT STAGECOACH.
WE WRESTLED A LITTLE BIT ON COSTS, BUT I KNOW THEY DID THEIR VERY BEST TO KEEP THE COST DOWN, BUT ALSO MEET THE NEEDS THAT THE GARDENERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AT THEIR GARDEN.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY A DELIGHTFUL PLAN.
SO WITH THAT I SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION AND I HOPE YOU WILL TOO.
THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
QUESTION FROM COUNCIL? MISS LUNA. I HAVE A VERY QUICK ONE ON EXHIBIT NUMBER NINE.
SOMETHING CAUGHT MY EYE, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, ON THE POWERPOINT.
DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, IT SAYS FUTURE POLICE SUBSTATION.
SO IS THAT INCLUDED IN I DIDN'T SEE IT INCLUDED IN THIS AT ALL.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'LL BRING TO US LATER OR.
THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT.
IT IS CONSIDERATION FOR THE FUTURE.
IT'S ONE OF A FEW SITES THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CONSIDERING.
CURRENTLY. THEY DO HAVE A SUBSTATION WITHIN THE STAGECOACH COMMUNITY CENTER ITSELF.
SO THIS IS A POSSIBLE MOVE FROM THE CENTER OVER TO WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE FORMER MAINTENANCE BUILDING? AGAIN, NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT THOUGH.
SO THAT AREA WILL BE RESERVED POTENTIALLY? CORRECT. THERE IS NO INTENTION TO.
OKAY. THANK YOU AND I GUESS WE'LL KEEP MICHAEL AND NICK AROUND SINCE THEY'RE DOING OKAY.
THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MISS ACOSTA? THANK YOU. I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OLDEST GARDEN WAS ESTABLISHED ABOUT 41 YEARS AGO.
CAN YOU SAY WHEN THE OTHER GARDENS WERE ESTABLISHED IN THE CITY? WHEN WAS THAT? YES, MA'AM. SO CALAVERA SCHOOLHOUSE GARDEN WAS ACTUALLY BUILT WITH LARGELY IN-HOUSE STAFF AND THAT WAS IN THE VICINITY OF 2016-17.
AND THAT WAS MORE IN THE VICINITY OF 2018.
SO 41 YEARS AGO AND THEN IN THE TEENS SO MORE THAN ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, 18 NEVER MIND LESS THAN BUT I KNOW THAT FOR YEARS I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO HAVE A GARDEN HERE.
AND I'D HEARD THAT THERE WAS A LONG WAIT LIST.
COULD YOU CONFIRM IF THERE'S A WAIT LIST FOR THE COMMUNITY GARDEN PLOTS? YES, MA'AM. THERE IS A WAIT LIST, AND IT IS OVER 400 IN NUMBER.
RESIDENTS HAVE PRIORITY BASED ON PREVIOUS COUNCIL ACTION.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NON RESIDENTS.
OKAY, GREAT. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
YES. THANK YOU. JUST ONE QUESTION.
WITH REGARDS TO CRITERIA FOR APPLYING FOR A PLOT, ARE THERE ANY CRITERIA PER SE, LIKE BESIDES, OF COURSE, I MEAN, WE'RE GIVING PRIORITY TO RESIDENTS, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LIVED IN A MULTIFAMILY SPACE AND YOU DON'T HAVE A GARDEN.
IS THERE ANY PRIORITY GIVEN TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS OR NOT?
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NO MA'AM. THERE IS CURRENTLY NO CRITERIA BASED ON WHETHER YOU HAVE A APARTMENT, A CONDO, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.WE DO LOOK AT IT FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND SO AGAIN, OUR EFFORT IS TO TRY AND GET AT LEAST ONE COMMUNITY GARDEN IN ALL FOUR QUADRANTS, WHICH HAPPEN TO ALIGN WITH OUR PARK DISTRICTS.
HAVING SAID THAT, WE TAKE FROM THE TOP OF THE LIST IF A PARTICULAR PERSON DOES NOT WANT A GARDEN PLOT IN THE GARDEN, THAT IT'S AVAILABLE AS AN EXAMPLE PINE AVENUE COMMUNITY GARDEN.
IF SOMEONE IS PERHAPS IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT, THEY DON'T WANT TO DRIVE DOWN TO PINE AVENUE TO PERFORM THEIR GARDENING, THEY CAN DECLINE AND WE WOULD THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE.
OUR NEXT PERSON ON THE LIST TO SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE AVAILABLE PLOT.
OKAY. THANK YOU AND THEN IN TERMS OF PLOTS BECOMING AVAILABLE, CAN YOU DO YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF ROUGH ESTIMATE AS TO HOW OFTEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THERE'S THIS LONG LIST AND DEMAND FOR IT? IT'S REALLY UNPREDICTABLE.
FRANKLY, I WOULD SAY THAT MORE RECENTLY WE'VE HAD SOME VACANCIES AT THE PURDUE GARDEN.
THAT GARDEN IS AN IN PLOT STYLE.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WHEN WE EXPERIENCE VACANCIES THERE IS CREATING A SUBDIVISION, IF YOU WILL, OF THOSE PLOTS, THEREBY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PLOTS WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND FRANKLY, MANY GARDENERS FIND THAT MORE APPEALING BECAUSE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THE FULL BURDEN OF TENDING TO AN AREA OF 20 BY 30. THEY'LL CERTAINLY TAKE HALF OF THAT.
WHEREAS THE OTHER GARDENS THE TWO EXISTING AT PINE AVENUE AND CALVARY SCHOOLHOUSE ARE THE COMMUNITY ARE THE RACE CONTAINER STYLE, AS IS BEING PROPOSED FOR STAGECOACH. THOSE ARE CONSIDERABLY SMALLER, AND THEY DON'T TAKE QUITE AS MUCH LABOR TO TEND TO, AND WE HAVE LESS TURNOVER ON THOSE.
THANKS. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.
MISS ACOSTA? THANK YOU. I'M SO PLEASED TO SEE THIS HAPPENING IN DISTRICT FOUR.
AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THEY'VE BEEN ASKING THIS, ASKING FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME THERE.
I KNOW THERE'S A PRIVATE COMMUNITY GARDEN THAT WAS CREATED TO TRY TO FULFILL SOME OF THAT NEED.
THE NEED IS GREATER THAN THAT.
SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS AND I DO KNOW THAT COMMUNITY GARDENS SERVE ALL WALKS OF LIFE, ALL AGES, VERY YOUNG TO THE ELDERLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE MOBILE AS WE HAVE THE ADA PLOTS, SHOWS WE WE JUST HAVE SUCH A NEED ALL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M SO PLEASED TO SEE THAT THIS IS FINALLY HAPPENING AFTER SUCH A LONG TIME.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS, MISS BHAT-PATEL.
THE OTHER PIECE, I'LL JUST PUT A PLUG IN FOR THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT AND MY DISTRICT.
YES. MOVE. STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
[5. REQUEST TO INITIATE A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, ZONING CODE AMENDMENT AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT FOR NEW OR EXPANDED AIRPORT USES AT THE MCCLELLANPALOMAR AIRPORT –]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO INITIATE A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, ZONING CODE AMENDMENT, AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT FOR A NEW OR EXPANDED AIRPORT USES AT THE MCCLELLAN-PALOMAR AIRPORT.MAKING THE PRESENTATION TODAY AS OUR ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MIKE STRONG.
MIKE. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERED THE REQUEST AT THEIR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 27TH, AND APPROVED A MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO REVIEW, INVESTIGATE THE REQUEST AND BRING BACK AN ANALYSIS AND THE TIMING TO IMPLEMENT THE PROPOSALS.
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THIS STAFF REPORT RESPONDS TO THAT COUNCIL DIRECTION.THE AIRPORT IS LOCATED NORTH OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, BETWEEN COLLEGE AVENUE AND EL CAMINO REAL.
THE AIRPORT OPENED IN 1959 AFTER COUNTY OFFICIALS DECIDED TO REPLACE THE DEL MAR AIRPORT.
THE AIRPORT WAS ANNEXED TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IN 1978 AS PART OF THE PROCEEDINGS TO ANNEX, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, ZONING ORDINANCE AND APPROPRIATE ZONING DESIGNATION MUST BE PLACED UPON THE AIRPORT, AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED BY THE COUNTY.
THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND THE COUNTY WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS PROCEDURE.
EXPANDING THE AIRPORT'S RUNWAY REQUIRES A CUP AMENDMENT.
ASIDE FROM THE COUNTY NEEDING TO OBTAIN CITY APPROVALS, THE COUNTY ALSO NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE OF THE FAA TO PREPARE AN AIRPORT MASTER PLAN TO ANTICIPATE FACILITY DEVELOPMENT. THE COUNTY INITIATED WORK ON THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN UPDATE IN 2014.
AIRPORT CLASSIFICATION IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF AIRPORT MASTER PLANNING.
THE MASTER PLAN UPDATE WAS INITIALLY FOCUSING ON SECURING C3 OR D THREE CLASSIFICATION, WHICH WOULD NEED TO EXTEND THE RUNWAY EXISTING RUNWAY TO SUPPORT A LARGER FLEET OF BUSINESS JETS AND LARGER AIRCRAFT.
THE HIGHER THE LETTER AND THE NUMBER, THE FASTER AND LARGER THE AIRCRAFT AND THE MORE SPACE IS DESIRED AROUND THE RUNWAY TO THROUGH THE AIRPORT DESIGN STANDARDS TO ENHANCE THEIR SAFETY. AS THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN UPDATE WAS BEING DEVELOPED, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL IMPACT THAT THE AIRPORT EXPANSION WOULD HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY. IN 2018, THE CITY INITIATED AN AMENDMENT TO ITS ZONING ORDINANCE TO ONLY ALLOW AIRPORT AND AIRPORT SURROUNDING USES WITHIN THE AIRPORT'S EXISTING PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.
THE CITIZENS FOR FRIENDLY AIRPORT LAWSUIT MOVED FORWARD.
THIS JUDGMENT WAS NOT APPEALED BY ANY PARTY TO THE LITIGATION.
THUS, THE RECORD INDICATES THAT THE COUNTY VOLUNTARILY AND INTENTIONALLY RELINQUISHED ITS IMMUNITIES WITH RESPECT TO THE AIRPORT, AND THE CITY HAD JURISDICTION TO IMPLEMENT LOCAL LAND USE REGULATIONS.
AFTER COMPLETING SOME ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS, THE COUNTY AGAIN ADOPTED THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN UPDATE, AND IN DECEMBER 8TH, 2021, THE COUNTY OR THE UPDATE INCLUDES IMPROVEMENTS TO MEET THE D3 DESIGN STANDARDS TO SUPPORT A LARGER FLEET OF BUSINESS JETS AND LARGER AIRCRAFT.
AS PART OF THE DECISION, THE COUNTY SELECTED TO IMPLEMENT A RUNWAY EXTENSION OF 200FT IN THE NEAR TERM AND TO ADD A MAXIMUM 900 FOOT EXTENSION OPTION AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. PROPOSED FACILITY CHANGES, AS WELL AS FORECASTS ON AVIATION ACTIVITY, WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN NEEDING TO AMEND THE COMPATIBILITY PLAN FOR THE AIRPORT.
ADDITIONALLY, ANY FACILITY EXPANSIONS AS DEFINED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES CODE WILL REQUIRE THE AIRPORT TO AMEND ITS THE AIRPORT STATE PERMIT BECAUSE THE COUNTY VOLUNTARILY AND INTENTIONALLY RELINQUISHED ITS IMMUNITIES WITH RESPECT TO THE AIRPORT.
THE CITIZENS FOR FRIENDLY AIRPORT SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO PROCESS THE CODE.
AMENDMENTS IN AN EFFORT TO DEFINE AIRPORT, CLARIFY THE DEFINITION OF AIRPORT EXPANSION.
ALLOW AN AIRPORT APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY THE CITY COUNCIL ONLY WITHIN THE PHYSICAL BOUNDARY, AND PROHIBIT AN AIRPORT IN ALL OTHER ZONES OF THE CITY, AND PREVENT ANY INCONSISTENCIES REGARDING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT THE REQUESTED ACTIONS.
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AMENDMENTS TO THE GENERAL PLAN ZONING CODE IS REQUIRED.TONIGHT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO INITIATE THE CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS.
THE STAFF REPORT INCLUDES AN ESTIMATED SCHEDULE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT, AND WHEN IT WOULD BE EXPECTED TO RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER FORMAL ADOPTION OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS.
THE TIMELINE INDICATES THAT THE AMENDMENTS WOULD RETURN AN EARLY PART OF 2025.
THIS WOULD PRECEDE ANY PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL HEARING.
THIS MAKES THE PLANNING PROCESS LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS.
A BIG CHUNK OF THE OVERALL PLANNING PROCESS IS COMPRISED OF AN EXTRA AGENCY CONSULTATION.
THIS TIMELINE ALSO ASSUMES THAT ALL REFERRAL AGENCIES DO NOT RAISE SUBSTANTIVE LEGAL ARGUMENTS OR OPPOSE THE CODE AMENDMENTS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO DRAFT AND PROVIDE FINDINGS PRIOR TO ANY CITY COUNCIL ACTION.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES. MARY LUCID, FOLLOWED BY VICKI [INAUDIBLE].
I'M IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT, SO I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO DO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF.
I'M VICKY [INAUDIBLE], PRESIDENT OF CITIZENS FOR FRIENDLY AIRPORT.
FIRST OF ALL, STAFF, THANK YOU FOR A JOB WELL DONE AND FOR THE RESOLUTION AS IT'S WRITTEN.
LESS SO AFTER I SAW THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THOSE CHANGES,MR. STRONG. LISTEN, C4 HAS BEEN AT THIS SINCE OUR FIRST MEETING WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY SINCE NOVEMBER OF 2017. EVERYONE AT THAT MEETING, EXCEPT FOR THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF C4 AND ONE COUNTY ATTORNEY, ARE GONE.
WE'RE THE LAST FOLKS STANDING.
EVERY OTHER AIRPORT IN THE COUNTY IS OWNED, OPERATED, AND CONTROLLED BY THE COUNTY.
THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS LOCAL CONTROL OF LAND USE AT THE AIRPORT.
THAT WAS PART OF OUR ANNEXATION AGREEMENT THAT GOT LOST SOMEWHERE ALONG THE YEARS, AND IT WAS REAFFIRMED BY THE COURTS FROM C4 PHASE LITIGATION. THE COUNTY SIGNED AWAY ITS RIGHTS IN EXCHANGE FOR LITERALLY RUNNING WATER, FLUSHING TOILETS AND POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION AND I KID YOU NOT, BACK IN THE LATE 70S, WATER AND SEWER HOOKUPS WERE GOLD.
WE HAD THAT GOLD. THEY DIDN'T.
SO THEY SIGNED THEIR RIGHTS AWAY.
I QUOTE FROM SUPERVISOR [INAUDIBLE].
IN 1979, PALOMAR AIRPORT WAS FORMALLY ANNEXED TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, WHICH WILL HAVE FINAL AUTHORITY OVER ANY AIRFIELD EXPANSIONS AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE SECOND POINT THAT THEY WAIVED IT.
WE NEED TO RETAIN THAT AND IF WE COULD PLEASE DO THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THE CITY COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THE AIRPORT TO HAVE TO RESTART AND DO THAT ALL OVER AGAIN WITH ANOTHER COUNCIL WILL JUST DELAY WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPENING ALL ALONG.
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DOWN THAT THEY HAD IMMUNITIES, THAT THEY HAD CONTROL AND THAT WAS BLATANTLY FALSE, FLAT OUT FALSE.SO NOW WE HAVE A CHANCE TO RESTART THE CLOCK.
WE HAVE A CHANCE TO LAY IT OUT.
I THINK OF THIS AS LIKE MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER'S OATMEAL COOKIE RECIPE.
LET'S GET IT DOWN SO THAT MY GREAT GRANDCHILDREN WILL KNOW THE RECIPE.
SO PLEASE, IF WE COULD POSSIBLY FIND A WAY MR. CHADWICK TO THROW THE RESOURCES TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND PLEASE VOTE TO PASS THIS.
HOPE NELSON, FOLLOWED BY GARY [INAUDIBLE] MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW EXCITED I AM TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
FOR CITIZENS FOR A FRIENDLY AIRPORT.
THIS PATH HAS FORMALLY BEGAN AT A NOVEMBER 2017 MEETING HERE IN ONE OF THE CITY OFFICES.
ATTENDING WERE REPRESENTATIVES FROM C4FA MEMBERS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL, JASON HABER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COUNTY, AND THEIR ATTORNEY.
THAT WAS SIX AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
THE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN THROUGH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY COUNCIL MEETINGS ON THIS SUBJECT.
THEY'VE GAINED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WITH THE AIRPORT, HAVING EXPOSURE TO THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS THE LENGTHY EFFORT TO GET TO THIS CURRENT AGENDA ITEM. STAFF HAS THE WORK BEGUN BY CITY HIRED ATTORNEYS KK&R, AND THE WORK DONE BY RESPECTED ATTORNEYS AT CHATMAN BROWN.
LAWSUITS ARE SETTLED AND A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WAS DISSOLVED BY THE COURT THREE YEARS AGO.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PATH FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING OUR COMMUNITY.
IT SEEMS THAT NOW IS FINALLY THE TIME TO GET THIS DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
ONE MORE COMMENT TO ALL OF US.
THIS IS NOT THE SITE ABOUT THE SIZE OF AN AIRPORT.
PLEASE REMEMBER THAT AS YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICES AND DECISIONS TONIGHT.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN. COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ASSOCIATION HAS CERTAINLY BEEN AT ODDS AT TIMES WITH CITIZENS FOR A FRIEND OF THE AIRPORT, OFTEN OVER TACTICS AND NOT ALWAYS ON SUBSTANCE. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND GO OVER THE IMPORTANCE OF LOCAL AIRPORT CONTROL, BECAUSE WHAT A LOT OF THIS COMES DOWN TO IS A GENERAL FEAR THAT PALOMAR COULD SOMEHOW TURN INTO A JOHN WAYNE MINIATURE AIRPORT.
CURRENTLY, PALOMAR AIRPORT'S RUNWAY IS JUST SHY OF 5000FT LONG.
WHY IS THIS SO CRITICALLY SIGNIFICANT? BECAUSE MANY AIRLINES, THEY'RE COMMUTER AIRLINES, WILL NOT FLY INTO AN AIRPORT THAT HAS A RUNWAY LESS THAN 5000FT.
THE EVENTUAL MASTER PLAN CALLS FOR A FURTHER EXTENSION OF THE RUNWAY THAT WOULD BRING THE TOTAL RUNWAY LENGTH TO APPROXIMATELY 5700FT AND 150FT WIDE.
THAT IS THE IDENTICAL SIZE OF THE LARGE RUNWAY AT JOHN WAYNE AIRPORT.
PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A SAY OVER THEIR AIRPORT.
IF WE FOLLOW THE MASTER PLAN AS IT IS.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR GENERAL AVIATION PILOTS, WHICH IS WHO WE ULTIMATELY REPRESENT.
IN ORDER TO FULFILL THE PLAN, WE WOULD COMPLETELY LOSE THE PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE AIRPORT, AND WE WOULD ALSO LOSE ALL OF OUR ACCESS TO SELF-SERVE FUEL. THE AIRPORT WOULD, IN ESSENCE, BE TO THOSE WHO BRING IN THE MOST MONEY.
AND WE KNOW THAT THE AIRPORT DOES BRING IN QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
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ACCORDING TO A REPORT THAT'S ONLY THREE YEARS OLD, THE AIRPORT SUPPORTS OVER 2500 JOBS.WE BELIEVE THERE IS AN INTERMEDIATE GROUND THAT CAN NOT ONLY SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES THAT COME TO CARLSBAD, BUT ALSO SUPPORT THE GENERAL AVIATION PILOTS AND THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR MORE OPTIONS TO FLY OUT OF PALOMAR AIRPORT.
MUCH MORE, AND CERTAINLY NOTHING TO BECOME A JOHN WAYNE SOUTH.
THANK YOU. LANCE SCHULTE, FOLLOWED BY DOM PETRO. HI.
THANKS. I'M A CARLSBAD OLD TIMER.
LIVED IN THE CITY FOR OVER 37 YEARS.
MAYOR CASLER AND BUDDY LEWIS, HER SUCCESSOR FIRST DEALT WITH THE AIRPORT EXPANSION ISSUES, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO THE VOTE OF CITIZENS AND I WAS ON CITY STAFF WHEN WE WERE IMPLEMENTING THAT AND IT WAS ALL ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL AND IT ALL.
IT WAS ALL ABOUT GIVING A VOICE TO CITIZENS TO DECIDE HOW THAT AIRPORT WOULD GROW OR IF IT WOULD GROW IN THE FUTURE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT ALL TWISTED AROUND AND HOW MANY, WHAT, 40 SOME ODD YEARS LATER, WE'RE WE'RE HAVING TO REVISIT THIS AGAIN.
BUT ANYWAYS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
I APPRECIATE THE STAFF MOVING ON THIS.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED QUICKLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF AND THE COUNCIL SOMETIMES HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW CHALLENGING IT IS FOR CITIZENS TO FIGHT FOR SOMETHING FOR SEVEN YEARS AND SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY TO DEFEND THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD'S RIGHTS THAT WE HAD VOTED FOR BACK IN THE 80S. SO I, HOPE THAT YOU FOLLOW THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THIS GETS EXPEDITED AS A STAFF, A FORMER PLANNER, I WORKED ON SEVERAL FAA APPROVALS FOR LAND USES NEAR AIRPORTS.
I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER MY SERVICES TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
MY TECHNICAL EXPERTISE OF 30 SOME ODD YEARS PLANNING AND OF SUCCESSFULLY APPROVED AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO EXPEDITE THIS FOR THE CITY. I'M WILLING TO WORK FOR THE CITY FOR FREE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN ON TIME SO THAT YOU CAN DECIDE ON THIS AND THIS CAN BE DONE QUICKLY.
I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS, BUT LET'S GET IT DONE QUICKLY.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, I'M DON BETRO.
I RESIDE AT SOLYMAR, WHICH IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH 18 OTHER HOA'S THAT SURROUND THE AIRPORT THAT REPRESENTATIVES FROM THOSE HOA'S THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE AIRPORT.
WE REPRESENT OVER 7000 HOMES, 20,000 PLUS INDIVIDUALS.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT AND TO URGE YOU TO MOVE AHEAD AND MOVE AHEAD WITH SOME URGENCY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE REPORT FROM STAFF.
MR. STRONG, YOU DID A JOB THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN BEEN DONE BY THE COUNTY AND ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITY IN SUMMARIZING THE CONTEXT THAT WE'RE IN, IN THIS AIRPORT, AND I WOULD MENTION THREE THINGS.
PRIOR TO 2018, THE WORK THAT C4FR HAD DONE BY USING THEIR OWN FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO REVIEW THE MATTER AND I WOULD HOPE, AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED, THAT WE COULD MOVE THIS ALONG.
SECONDLY THE ONLY OUTLIER I SEE IS THE COASTAL COMMISSION, AND AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER THEY DO AND WE COULD PROBABLY BE SUBJECT TO THAT SOMEHOW, I HOPE.
BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THIS COUNCIL HAS REALLY STEPPED UP THIS YEAR.
I MEAN, ASIDE FROM THIS ISSUE, WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO TRY TO ASSERT THE FLIGHT DEVIATIONS AND THE NOISE ISSUES, I THINK IS SUPER COMMENDABLE.
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THOSE OF US THAT HAVE WORKED FOR YEARS IN TRYING TO GET A RESPONSE, IT'S BEEN MOST NOTICEABLE AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT LOOKING FOR YOUR OWN INTERESTS, BUT I THINK THIS SHOULD BE THE LEGACY OF THIS 2024 CITY COUNCIL, THAT YOU ARE THE ONES THAT STEPPED UP AND GOT THIS RIGHT.SO I LOOK FORWARD, IN ADDITION TO THIS MATTER, CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL ON THE ROUNDTABLE AND OTHER ISSUES TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF CARLSBAD RESIDENTS.
AND I URGE YOU ONCE AGAIN, TO PASS THIS ITEM.
I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE I'M GOING TO TRY AND MAKE THIS [INAUDIBLE].
BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION OUT HERE TODAY ABOUT THE JETS.
NOW, EACH ONE OF THESE FLIGHT SCHOOLS HAS THEIR OWN SET OF PLANES.
EACH ONE TAKES TO THE SKY AT THEIR OWN TIMES.
ONE IN PARTICULAR IS A 24/7, AND THEY LOVE TO WAKE US UP AT 11:00 MIDNIGHT, WHATEVER TIME THEY'RE FEELING, WHERE YOU JUST OCCASIONALLY HAVE ONE PERSON TRYING TO PRACTICE LANDING, SO THEY JUST KEEP CIRCLING OVER US AND LAND, GO BACK OVER 20, 30, 40 TIMES TWO HOURS, 9 P.M.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY ABSURD THE FACT THAT ONE IN BUSINESS, THERE IS NO BUSINESS IN ALL OF THIS PLANET THAT CAN JUST DISRUPT THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF AN ENTIRE CITY FOR THEIR OWN PRIVATE ACTIVITY.
THEY ARE OUR BIGGEST ENEMIES IN TERMS OF NOISE AND POLLUTION, BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST SPRINKLING LEAD OVER OUR HOMES AND OUR HOUSES AND RIGHT OVER EVERY TIME I SEE ONE, I CAN PRACTICALLY SEE THE PILOT BECAUSE THEY'RE FLYING SO LOW.
ALL I'M THINKING IS I'M BREATHING IN LEAD NOW AND AT THIS POINT MOST OF US CAN'T SLEEP IN THE AREA.
I HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE YOUNG KIDS.
ONE IN PARTICULAR GOES FOR WALKS WITH ME.
HE'S LIKE, I JUST CAN'T SLEEP.
THEY KEEP WAKING ME UP AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
HIS PARENTS DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BETTER.
OUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE APARTMENTS DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
WE'RE JUST STRANDED WITH NO ONE LOOKING OUT FOR US AT THIS POINT AND AS SOMEBODY WHO IS DEALING WITH SOME MEDICAL PROBLEMS FROM A NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER, I OCCASIONALLY WORK FROM HOME DOING FIBER AND UPRIGHT AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND COMING I HAVE EARPLUGS ON, AND AIRPOD MAX IS OVER THOSE EARPLUGS, AND I CAN STILL HEAR THE PLANES CRYSTAL CLEAR, LIKE IT MAKES VIRTUALLY NO DIFFERENCE UNTIL I LIFT IT OFF AND THEN I REALIZED, OH, MY WHOLE APARTMENT IS SHAKING BECAUSE THEY'RE THAT FLYING THAT LOW.
I'VE TRIED FILING NOISE COMPLAINTS, I'VE TRIED CONTACTING THE AIRPORT, I'VE TRIED CONTACTING CITY COUNCIL, I'VE TRIED TRYING CONTACTING THE MAYOR OF SAN DIEGO SO YOU CAN TRY AND GET SOME INPUT THERE.
RARELY DO THEY GET BACK TO ME.
IF AT THIS POINT WE FEEL REALLY TRAPPED AND THERE'S JUST I WE MOVED TO CARLSBAD IN 1999.
I'VE LIVED IN THE SAME APARTMENT FOR MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE AND CHILDHOOD, AND THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT WE GO THROUGH NOW COMPARED TO THEN IS ABSURD AND HALF THE TIME WHEN WE HAVE AIRPORT FANATICS TALK, THEY JUST SAY, IT'S BEEN HERE LONGER THAN YOU DESERVES THIS AND WE SIT THERE AND SAY, NO, THOSE FLIGHT SCHOOLS HAVE NOT BEEN HERE LONGER THAN US. THEY'RE JUST CRAMMED IN ONE AFTER ANOTHER BY SAN DIEGO, AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
SO BEFORE I RUN OUT OF TIME, I JUST WANT TO THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
MS. ACOSTA? THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
WHAT COULD WE DO TO EXPEDITE OR COMPRESS THAT TIMELINE, MR. STRONG? THE GRAPHIC ON THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION SHOWS THE CONSTRAINING EFFECT OF THE OUTREACH.
MR. STRONG? ARE YOU MEANING TO SHOW US THE POWERPOINT? OKAY, THERE WE GO. IT WASN'T UP YET.
I'M IN MY WORLD [INAUDIBLE] WAS BEING SHARED.
ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES IS THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY UNDER THE PUBLIC UTILITIES CODE 21676.
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THERE IS PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS AND TIMELINE SPECIFIED BY THAT CODE IN WHICH INITIAL CONSULTATION IS PROVIDED.SO ONCE THE DRAFT DOCUMENTS AND CODE AMENDMENTS ARE PREPARED THEY ARE TRANSMITTED TO THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY IN WHICH THEY WILL HAVE 60 DAYS TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE COMMENT.
IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THE COMMENTS WILL BE OBJECTING TO ANYTHING THAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING TO BOX IN THE AIRPORT, AT WHICH TIME THAT SAME GOVERNMENT OR PUBLIC UTILITIES CODE SECTION STIPULATES THAT IF THE LOCAL AGENCY IS GOING TO ATTEMPT TO OVERRULE THOSE FINDINGS THE AGENCY HAS TO TRANSMIT DRAFT FINDINGS AND A DRAFT DECISION TO THAT AGENCY 45 DAYS PRIOR TO MAKING ANY LOCAL DECISION MAKING.
SO THAT BOX IS IN THE OVERALL SCHEDULE, ANYTHING WITHIN THE CITY'S CONTROL WE CAN EXPEDITE? THIS TIMELINE SHOWS IT BEING A PRIORITY.
I THINK WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CUSHION BUILT IN FOR THAT.
OR IS THIS AS COMPRESSED AS WE COULD POSSIBLY MAKE IT.
IF THE CITY WAS TO PREDICT ON AREAS OF TIME EFFICIENCIES, IT WOULD BE ON THE BOOKENDS OF THIS TIMELINE. FINALIZING THE DRAFT AMENDMENTS WOULD OCCUR IN APRIL.
MAY. IT'S APRIL 23RD SO THAT ALREADY ACCOUNTS TO MOVING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
IF THERE ARE ANY TIME SAVINGS THAT WOULD OCCUR AFTER THE CONSULTATION CONCLUDES.
FASTER THAN WHAT THIS OVERALL TIMELINE SHOWS, THEN CERTAINLY STAFF COULD RETURN WITH THE ADOPTION PACKET OR THE DOCKET THE ITEM EARLIER THAN 2025. GREAT.
THANK YOU. I THINK I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THE URGENCY IS UNDERSTOOD AND THAT WE ARE ALREADY TRYING.
AND IF WE COULD SHAVE OFF ANY BIT, IT WOULD BE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OR THE END.
ABSOLUTELY. THE BOOKENDS OF THE PROCESS.
MRS BHAT-PATEL? YES. THANK YOU. ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS ASKED AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT.
I KNOW MR. STRONG, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD SOME LANGUAGE PREPARED.
COULD WE JUST SEE THAT IF YOU DO HAVE THAT.
THANK YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT REALLY QUICK.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE THING CLEAR THAT ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT RUNWAY LENGTH TONIGHT.
WE ARE NOT DECIDING ANYTHING TO DO WITH RUNWAY LENGTH.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S CORRECT.
THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS? ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE BUDGETS COMING UP AND THIS WILL TAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT STAFF RESOURCES AND I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WOULD BE CONTEMPLATING IN THE BUDGET WE'RE CONSIDERING, OR IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY NOW TO DO THAT IN THE EVENT THAT WE REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WILL PAY COUNCIL.
WELL SINCE IT'S IN SECOND DISTRICT, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE POINT, SINCE I THINK AS MAYOR BLACKBURN, HE'S PROBABLY BEEN, YOU KNOW, INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SKIP THOSE SPECIFICS.
SO AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, THERE ARE MANY PARTS MOVING PARTS REGARDING THIS ISSUE, AS MR. STRONG HAS PRESENTED, AND WE'VE HEARD IT OVER THE YEARS.
I'D LIKE TO ECHO MR. BETROS COMMENT, VERY COMPLICATED.
WHEN I FIRST SAT IN THE SEAT IT FELT LIKE THE SAGA OF THE ELEPHANT.
HOW DO YOU DESCRIBE ELEPHANT? SOMEONE FILLS THE EAR AND THAT'S HOW THEY DESCRIBE AN ELEPHANT.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE VISUALLY IMPAIRED, THE TAIL.
AND I MUST SAY, YOU DID A STUPENDOUS JOB AND I HAVE TO ECHO HIS SENTIMENTS.
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THIS WAS SPECTACULAR ON WHICH YOU PUT TOGETHER, AND I DON'T USUALLY SEE TOO MANY SPECTACULAR STAFF REPORTS.I SEE GOOD ONES, BUT NOT SPECTACULAR.
SO AND THE RESOLUTION, I THINK IS SPOT ON.
APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION, I THINK, CAPTURES THE MUCH NEEDED CLARITY THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE BEEN REQUESTING AS WELL AS PROVIDING CLARITY TO THE COUNTY, STATE AND FEDERAL ENTITIES CONCERNING THE AIRPORT.
WE SIT UP HERE REGULARLY, CONCERNED ABOUT HOW OUR LOCAL CONTROL IS BEING SWEPT AWAY BY OUR FEDERAL, STATE AND SUBREGIONAL ENTITIES AND I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT STEP FORWARD.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE STAFF TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF ANY OPPORTUNITY THAT PRESENTS TO YOU TO REDUCE THE TIME PROCESSING AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A WELL WRITTEN RESOLUTION, AND I THINK IT HITS ALL THE POINTS AND THE MISSION THAT YOU WERE GIVEN A FEW MONTHS AGO MR. HABER AND MR. STRONG AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OUR CITY MANAGER, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW YOU CAPTURED WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FOR YEARS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION, MISS BURKHOLDER.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND THE SENTIMENTS ARE SHARED WITH MY COLLEAGUE HERE TO MY LEFT.
BUT I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS IS POSSIBLY THE MOST PERFECT EXAMPLE OF CITIZENRY AND STAFF WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNCIL TO ACCOMPLISH A GOAL AND THE PATIENTS THAT HAS BEEN EXHIBITED.
AND THE PERSISTENCE BY C4FA HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY AND I APPRECIATE THAT IN PEOPLE AND THEIR WHAT THEIR GOAL THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TO GET THERE AND LIKEWISE WITH STAFF.
SO THANK YOU, MR. STRONG AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC FOR SHOWING UP AND WEIGHING IN.
I DO THINK THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES THE CLARITY AND CERTAINTY TO THE PUBLIC, BUT ALSO TO THE OTHER GOVERNMENT PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH THAT NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE STANCE IS OF THE CITY.
I ALSO SUPPORT ADDING THE SECOND RESOLUTION PARAGRAPH THAT WAS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN A MOMENT AGO, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY BOLD AND CLEAR ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY HAS WAIVED ITS IMMUNITIES, OR THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE COURT THAT THE COUNTY WAIVE ITS IMMUNITY.
SO I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT BACK IN AND OTHERWISE I SUPPORT EVERYTHING.
I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE AT THIS POINT AND THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF OUR CITIZENS.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION IS TO GO AHEAD AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION, INCLUDING THE CHANGES THAT YOU, THE RECITAL THAT YOU PROVIDED, AND THEN JUST PUTTING A LITTLE PLUG IN TO MOVE AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS WE CAN AND I DID WANT TO SAY I DID MISSPEAK ABOUT THE LOCATION.
IT WOULD BECOME THE THIRD RECITAL.
SURE. THANK YOU AND I WAS GOING TO SECOND.
MY COMMENTS ARE WE ALL WANT TO FIND RESOLUTION TO THIS QUICKLY.
AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE DEPENDENT ON OTHER AGENCIES.
IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
SO I'M HOPING WE GET IT COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
IF WE DO NOT I REQUEST THAT THERE BE A MEMO AS TO WHAT PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE AND THAT WOULD GO OUT TO US AND SEE THE C4FA, FOR ORGANIZATION TO KEEP US UPDATED ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN EVENTUALLY BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL ON AN AGENDA ITEM.
WHEN YOU DO HAVE A RESOLUTION, I'M GUESSING YOU DON'T NEED THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION.
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THAT WAS OUR INTENT.YEAH. WE I APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION.
SO WE WILL BE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATIONS WITH YOU ALL.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE'LL RESUME THE MEETING AT 20 TILL SEVEN.
I'M CALLING THE MEETING. BACK TO ORDER.
[6. ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD CLIMATE ADAPTATION PROJECT ]
CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS KATIE HENTRICH, SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER AND THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE CITY AND WITH ME IS TOM FRANK, THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER. WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD CLIMATE ADAPTATION PROJECT.
IT'S ALSO MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE MR. BRIAN LESLIE, A SENIOR COASTAL SCIENTIST WITH GHD, WHO'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION.
THE RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THIS ITEM IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT ON HOW A ONE MILE SEGMENT OF SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD COULD BE MANAGED TO PROTECT PEOPLE, THE ENVIRONMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THE EFFECTS OF ANTICIPATED SEA LEVEL RISE.
THAT STRETCH OF LAND IS HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE ON THIS MAP.
FROM MANZANO DRIVE TO OUR CITY'S BORDERS AT LA COSTA AVENUE, WHERE THE CITY HAS A LONGER TERM PROJECT THAT ENVISIONS MOVING THE SOUTHBOUND LANES OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD TO THE EAST AND REPURPOSING ABOUT 60 ACRES OF COASTAL LAND FOR RECREATION, TRAILS AND OTHER USES.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE RECENT UPDATE TO THE GENERAL PLAN SAFETY ELEMENT HAS POLICIES THAT GIVE PRIORITY TO NONSTRUCTURAL SHORELINE PROTECTION OPTIONS AND TO REQUIRE REMOVAL OR RELOCATION OF STRUCTURES AWAY FROM SEA LEVEL RISE HAZARDS.
IF RISKS EXIST OR IF ESSENTIAL SERVICES CAN NO LONGER BE MAINTAINED.
THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION ISSUED A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, OR CDP, ON DECEMBER 29TH, 2015, AND THIS WAS EXTENDED TO MARCH 2024. THE CDP REQUIRED A LONG TERM HAZARD MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THIS PLAN NEEDED TO INCORPORATE MEASURES TO ADAPT TO SEA LEVEL RISE OVER TIME, AND PROVIDE FOR THE LONG TERM PROTECTION AND PROVISION OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, COASTAL ACCESS, PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR COASTAL RECREATION AND PUBLIC VIEWS, AND COASTAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING BEACH AND SHORELINE HABITAT.
PER THE CDP REQUIREMENTS, THOSE MEASURES MAY INCLUDE, BUT NEED NOT BE LIMITED TO, PHASED IMPLEMENTATION OF BEACH NOURISHMENT, SOFT PROTECTION, MANAGED RETREAT, AND FOCUSED OR SMALL SCALE ARMORING.
THE PLAN NEEDED TO EVALUATE AND CONSIDER ALL POTENTIAL CONSTRAINTS, INCLUDING GEOTECHNICAL AND ENGINEERING CONSTRAINTS, POTENTIAL PHASING OPTIONS WITH TIMELINES, PROJECT COSTS FOR THE PREFERRED PROJECT AND ALTERNATIVES AND POTENTIAL FUNDING OPTIONS.
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AND THE MENTIONED STUDIES TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN, PERMITTING, AND CONSTRUCTION OF A LASTING SOLUTION.THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD CLIMATE ADAPTATION PROJECT WAS FUNDED BY A STATE COASTAL CONSERVANCY GRANT TO MAXIMIZE THE ROADWAYS RESILIENCY TO COASTAL FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE. THE GRANT PROJECT INCLUDED TWO MAIN COMPONENTS ONE A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN SHOWING HOW THE ROAD COULD BE MOVED AWAY FROM THE IMMEDIATE COASTLINE, AND TWO, AN ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT INCLUDES A DECISION FRAMEWORK FOR WHEN TO MOVE SEGMENTS OF THE ROADWAY BASED ON ANTICIPATED COASTAL HAZARDS.
OUR LAST UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT TO CITY COUNCIL WAS IN JUNE 2023.
ALSO KNOWN AS AN ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN, A FUTURE STEP WILL INCLUDE A POLICY DECISION REGARDING TWO OPTIONS PRESENTED IN THE ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THE FIRST RETREAT NOW, WHICH WOULD MOVE INFRASTRUCTURE AWAY FROM THE COAST ALL AT ONCE RATHER THAN INCREMENTALLY AND THE SECOND PHASED ADAPTATION, WHICH WOULD MOVE THE SOUTHBOUND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD VEHICLE LANE TO THE EAST AND REPURPOSE THE OLD ROAD FOR WALKING AND BIKING PATHS TO BE USED AS LONG AS IT IS SAFE TO DO SO.
THE ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN SPLITS THE PROJECT INTO FOUR SEGMENTS AS SEEN ON THE SLIDE.
EACH SEGMENT INCLUDES THE TYPES OF PHYSICAL EVENTS, ALSO KNOWN AS TRIGGERS, SUCH AS CLIFF EROSION OR FLOODING, AND THE FREQUENCY THAT WOULD SIGNAL THE TIME TO MOVE INFRASTRUCTURE LANDWARD.
EACH SEGMENT HAS UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS.
IN THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD SEGMENT.
THE MAIN VULNERABILITY OF CONCERN IS CLIFF EROSION.
THE PHASED ADAPTATION PLAN WOULD NARROW AND EVENTUALLY RELOCATE THE PROPOSED TRAILS OVER TIME, WITH THE GOAL OF KEEPING THIS MOBILITY CORRIDOR IN CLOSE BUT SAFE DISTANCE FROM THE OCEAN TO MAXIMIZE COASTAL VIEWS FROM THE TRAILS.
THE MAIN VULNERABILITY OF CONCERN IS ALSO CLIFF EROSION.
THE PHASE ADAPTATION PLAN WOULD FOCUS ON UTILIZING THE ROUNDABOUT AS LONG AS IT IS FEASIBLE, WITH OPTIONS TO EXPLORE INCREASED ACCESS AND STABILIZATION ALTERNATIVES, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY CHANGING THE ROUNDABOUT TO A SIGNAL TO REGAIN SOME SPACE.
IN THE LAS ENCINA'S CREEK SEGMENT.
FLOODING AT THE DIP IN THE ROAD IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN, AND FLOODING IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY AFFECTING THE ROADWAY DURING COASTAL STORMS. THIS SLIDE SHOWS WHAT THIS AREA COULD LOOK LIKE UNDER RETREAT.
IF FUNDING IS SECURED, THE CHANGES COULD ALSO INCLUDE HABITAT RESTORATION AND A NEW BRIDGE OVER LAWSON CREEK TO ACCOMMODATE NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC, INCLUDING WALKING AND BIKING PATHS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE IS AN LAS ENCINA'S WASTEWATER AUTHORITY SEWER FORCE MAIN LOCATED CLOSE TO THE EXISTING LIFEGUARD TOWER, AND THAT WOULD REMAIN WITH REQUIRED PROTECTION. THE LAS ENCINA'S CREEK ESTUARY AND BEACH COULD BE ALLOWED TO EVOLVE WITH NEEDED MAINTENANCE AFTER THE PROJECT IS CONSTRUCTED.
ENGAGEMENT FOR THE ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS FOCUSED ON PUBLIC AGENCY PARTNERS INCLUDING THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION, CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS AND LAS ENCINA'S WASTEWATER AUTHORITY.
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OPTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS ON PAGE SIX OF THE STAFF REPORT.THIS ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS ONE OF ONLY A FEW PLANS CREATED FOR COASTAL CITIES IN CALIFORNIA.
THE COASTAL CONSERVANCY GRANT DID NOT FUND ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS OR CONSTRUCTION.
STAFF PLAN TO REQUEST FUNDS DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-25.
BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES.
THAT THREE MILE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY INCLUDED IN THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
AT THIS TIME, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT DIRECTED STAFF TO PROCEED WITH NEXT STEPS, BUT THESE WOULD INCLUDE FURTHER TECHNICAL STUDIES AND OPTIONS ANALYSIS, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND ENGINEERING DESIGNS, TO NAME A FEW.
SORRY TO PROTECT PEOPLE, THE ENVIRONMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THE EFFECTS OF SEA LEVEL RISE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES, DON [INAUDIBLE].
I MENTIONED I LIVE AT SOLYMAR, WHICH IS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS.
MY PROBLEM WITH THIS, AND I MAY BE OVERLAPPING WITH THE LARGER PLAN, IS THIS ATTEMPT TO NARROW DOWN LANES TO ONE CAR AND TO MIX WALKERS AND BIKERS ON THE SAME ROADWAY? I IT'S PROBLEMATIC.
WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, A FEW WEEKS AGO, THERE WAS A TIE UP ON THE FIVE, AND EVERYBODY WENT TO THE COAST, AND IT WAS BACKED UP FROM TAMARACK TO ENCINITAS BECAUSE OF ONE LANE.
I KNOW I'VE HEARD THE MAYOR AND OTHERS SPEAK ABOUT, WELL, STRIPING, WE'RE TOLD, COULD BE REMOVED.
AND I'M AFRAID IT'S A TRAGEDY WAITING TO HAPPEN.
SO I KNOW SOME OF THAT GOES BEYOND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT BIKING AND ENVIRONMENT IS IMPORTANT, AND WE CERTAINLY LIVE IN A BEAUTIFUL AREA.
BUT AND I KNOW I HAVE BIKERS FROM MY PARK HERE TONIGHT WHO MIGHT DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE BIKERS I SEE ON THAT ROADWAY ARE NOT FROM CARLSBAD. THEY'RE FROM ALL OVER SAN DIEGO.
AND THAT MIGHT BE A WONDERFUL THING TO DO.
BUT CAN'T WE FIND A DIFFERENT WAY? I MEAN, WHY CAN'T WE PUT THAT KIND OF STUFF, THE ENJOYMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT CLOSER TO THE BEACH AND NOT ALONG THE SIDE OF ROADWAYS WHERE WE HAVE TO COMPETE FOR WHO GETS WHAT? I THINK WE HAVE TO ENVISION THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL HILLS IN CARLSBAD.
I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO BUILD PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO BIKE AND ENJOY, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO IT.
I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE BY THE BEACH, BUT I WOULD URGE US TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
AND REALLY SINCE THIS IS IT SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF VERY FEW ATTEMPTS TO DO SOMETHING INNOVATIVE, LET'S REALLY BE INNOVATIVE AND CREATE SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THE BEACH, PROTECT THE DUNES AND THE BEACH, AND ALSO BE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY AND TRYING TO BE ON THE ROAD WITH ALL OTHER KINDS OF PLAYERS NOW THAN JUST CARS.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL
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MEMBERS. I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE BEACH FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] STEPS TO TOWER 28 AND SOUTH TO SOUTH PONTO IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLACES ON THE PLANET. I'M NOT EXAGGERATING WHEN I SAY THAT I MEAN IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.I'VE WITNESSED BLUFF FAILURES AND BEACH EROSION.
I REMEMBER WATCHING WHEN THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT CAME IN TO ADD THE RIPRAP.
I HAVE PICTURES OF THAT AS WELL.
SO TO SAVE NORTH PONTO BEACH AND TO RESTORE LAS ENCINA'S CREEK, I URGE YOU TO PRIORITIZE.
BY DIRECTING STAFF TO SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
WE CAN PRESERVE AND RESTORE THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
IT'S ALREADY, TO ME, ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES ON THE PLANET, AS I SAID.
BUT IMAGINE HOW MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL IT WOULD BE IF RESTORED TO ITS NATURAL STATE.
THE ADAPTATION PROJECT SHOULD INCLUDE MOVING THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN LANES EASTWARD AT THE SAME TIME AS THE HIGHWAY IS REALIGNED, AND THE CURRENT ROADWAY SHOULD BE REMOVED AT THAT TIME.
THANK YOU. ALEX FERRIN, FOLLOWED BY BEN RUBENSON.
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M ALEX FERRIN, LIVING SHORELINES COORDINATOR FOR THE SURFRIDER FOUNDATION.
CARLSBAD FACES AN INCREDIBLY RARE OPPORTUNITY IN COASTAL ADAPTATION.
THIS IS A SMART AND SIMPLE WAY TO PROTECT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND A UNIQUE OPTION THAT FEW COASTAL CITIES IN ALL OF CALIFORNIA HAVE, IN THAT CARLSBAD HAS THE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE INLAND.
AS A PROFESSIONAL IN THE FIELD OF COASTAL RESILIENCE, I CANNOT OVERSTATE ENOUGH THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS MOMENT AND THE INCREDIBLE FORTUNE CARLSBAD HAS TO EVEN HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY. CARLSBAD CAN LEAD THE WAY IN PROACTIVE PLANNING BY SIMPLY MAINTAINING MOMENTUM AND ACTION AND ADOPTING RETREAT NOW AS THE CITY'S PREFERRED METHOD AND THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER TAKING ON THE GRAVITY OF THIS OPPORTUNITY AND SEIZE THE CHANCE TO PROTECT CARLSBAD'S COASTLINE WHILE WE STILL CAN, AND TAKE ACTION IN ADOPTING RETREAT NOW AS THE CITY'S PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI, MY NAME IS BEN RUBENSON.
HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.
AS A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD AND A VOLUNTEER WITH SURFRIDER FOUNDATION, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL, THE BEACH PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF FOR THE CONTINUED FOCUS ON THIS CRITICAL PROJECT.
BEING THERE FREQUENTLY, I WITNESSED THE WAVES ALREADY REACHING THE ROADWAY DURING WINTER STORMS AT HIGH TIDE, WHICH WILL BECOME WORSE WITH SEA LEVEL RISE IF THIS WESTERN SECTION OF THE ROAD WAS COMPLETELY REMOVED THROUGH THE RETREAT NOW OPTION, THE RIPRAP ROCKS COULD ALSO BE REMOVED, ALLOWING FOR UNOBSTRUCTED SAND FLOW FROM LAS ENCINA'S CREEK. THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH BOTH SEA LEVEL RISE MITIGATION GOALS AND THE CREATION OF A SANDY BEACH, WHICH WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
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AS HIGHLIGHTED IN GAD'S REPORT.THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] DALTON, FOLLOWED BY MITCH SILVERSTEIN.
I ACTUALLY OPTED NOT TO SPEAK, BUT I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD REVIEW THE PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RETREAT NOW. THANK YOU.
HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
I AM SAN DIEGO COUNTY POLICY MANAGER AT SURFRIDER FOUNDATION.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP TO SUPPORT THE RETREAT NOW OPTION AS THE CITY'S GUIDING VISION FOR THIS PROJECT OR MORE SPECIFICALLY, FOR REALIGNMENT OF SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD ALONG THE ONE MILE STRETCH AT LAS ENCINA'S CREEK.
OR DIP IN THE ROAD, AS THE LOCALS CALL IT.
THE CITY'S BEACH PRESERVATION COMMISSION, WHO ADVISES YOU ON MATTERS OF PRESERVING AND MAINTAINING BEACHES FOR THE SAFETY AND OPTIMUM ENJOYMENT OF THE PUBLIC, SHOWED LEADERSHIP BY SUPPORTING RETREAT NOW AT THEIR APRIL 2ND MEETING.
STAFF MAY NOT HAVE SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR SUCH A RESOLUTION TONIGHT, BUT I DO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT IN JUNE 2023, WHEN STAFF LAST REPORTED ON THIS OBJECT, YOU, THE COUNCIL, SPECIFICALLY ASKED THEM TO COME BACK IN A YEAR TO DISCUSS RETREAT NOW VERSUS PHASE ADAPTATION.
REMOVING THE EXISTING ROAD ONCE TRAFFIC IS REALIGNED WILL LEAD TO A RESTORED BEACH WITH EXTREME SEA LEVEL RISE RESILIENCE, MEANWHILE, LEAVING IT THERE FOR UP TO 96 YEARS, ON THE OTHER HAND, WILL FURTHER EXACERBATE EROSION AND LEAD TO AN INACCESSIBLE BEACH IN AS LITTLE AS 30 YEARS, FOLLOWED BY PERMANENT BEACH LOSS AT LAS ENCINA'S CREEK.
THE RETREAT NOW OPTION ALIGNS WITH YOUR 2021 DECLARATION OF CLIMATE EMERGENCY.
SURFRIDER UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS ALL GOING TO TAKE TIME AND REQUIRE FUNDING.
RETREAT NOW IS JUST THE TITLE, BUT REALLY IT'S RETREAT AS SOON AS WE CAN.
WE WOULD ALSO LIKE WE WOULD ALSO EXCUSE ME.
WE ALSO THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER CREATION OF A DEDICATED FUND FOR CLIMATE RESILIENCE PROJECTS.
DOING SO WILL MAKE CARLSBAD MORE COMPETITIVE FOR STATE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
INLAND CITIES ENJOY CARLSBAD COAST AS WELL.
THEY MAY EVEN BE WILLING TO STICK UP FOR IT.
TO CONCLUDE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND VISION FOR A RESILIENT CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
LET'S KEEP OUR EYES ON THE PRIZE.
WE MUST DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MOVE A THREATENED ROADWAY OUT OF HARM'S WAY WHILE RESTORING A RAPIDLY ERODING BEACH INTO ONE THAT WILL LAST GENERATIONS SO THAT OUR CHILDREN CAN ENJOY THIS BEACH AS MUCH AS WE DO TODAY.
PLEASE MAKE A MOTION IN SUPPORT OF RETREAT NOW AS THE PREFERRED OPTION.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.
I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING THE SURFRIDER FOUNDATION OF SAN DIEGO'S CLIMATE CHANGE COMMITTEE.
IN SUPPORT OF THE RETREAT NOW PROJECT ALTERNATIVE FOR SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD ADAPTATION.
OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE SEEN A RAPID REDUCTION OF THE WIDTH OF THE AREA'S BEACHES, PARTICULARLY IN NORTH COUNTY AND THIS ISIN DESPITE OR PERHAPS EXACERBATED BY REVETMENTS AND HARD INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG THE COASTLINES.
OUR BEACHES ARE THE CROWN JEWEL OF OUR REGION AND AN IMPORTANT ECONOMIC ENGINE.
NOW NOT ONLY IS THE OCEAN ALREADY LAPPING AT THE EDGE OF THE ROADWAY AND OCCASIONALLY SUBJECT TO FLOODING AND FUTURE INUNDATION, BUT THIS ROADWAY ACTS AS A BARRIER FOR SEDIMENTATION FROM LAS ENCINA'S CREEK AND THE NATURAL EROSION OF THE COASTAL BLUFFS CONTINUING TO PROTECT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT'S THE ROAD OR BIKE PATHS WITH RIPRAP OR REVETMENTS, WILL ONLY INCREASE THE RATE OF EROSION AS WAVES CONTINUE TO SCOUR AWAY AT THE SAND SEA LEVEL RISE AND STRONGER STORMS, SURGES ARE ONLY GOING TO INTENSIFY THAT RATE.
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WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY HERE AND ARE BLESSED THAT WE HAVE THE SPACE TO MOVE THE ROAD AND AN EASY ALTERNATIVE WITH RELATIVELY LITTLE DISRUPTION FOR TRAFFIC.THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS NEEDED CHANGE BEFORE IT BECOMES CRITICAL TO PROVIDE NEW OPEN SPACE FOR RECREATION AND COASTAL ADAPTATION, AND TO BECOME AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY FACING SIMILAR ISSUES.
IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE, I ADVISE AGENCIES ON FUNDING STRATEGIES AND ACQUIRE GRANTS FOR PROJECTS LIKE THESE, AND NOW IS THE TIME TO PURSUE THE PROJECT AND AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE FUNDING.
I ALSO ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO MAKE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH A CLIMATE RESILIENCE DISTRICT FUND WITH DEDICATED FUNDING FOR CLIMATE AND RESILIENCE PROJECTS AT THE CITY LEVEL.
GRANT APPLICATIONS WILL BE MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE FOR AND IT'S OFTEN A REQUIREMENT.
THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL? MISS BHAT-PATEL.
YES. THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS BEFORE US, AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH PERSONALLY SINCE I FREQUENT THIS AREA QUITE A BIT, WHETHER IT'S RUNNING, WALKING WITH MY FAMILY.
SO I WANTED TO JUST ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THEN I HAVE COMMENTS FOR LATER.
WE MENTIONED THAT COMPLETION OF CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT BY 2028, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT 2028 AND THEN ASK, INCLUDING THIS IN OUR FISCAL YEAR 2024, 2025 BUDGET.
IS IT THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES OR AM I? THANK YOU. I CAN CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU.
SO THIS WAS WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT NEXT STEPS FOR THE PROJECT.
IT WOULD THE CITY COUNCIL'S FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN HAS COMPLETING THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND PERMITTING FOR THIS PROJECT BY 2028. OKAY.
THANK YOU AND THEN LET'S SEE HERE IN TERMS OF THE ALTERNATIVES THE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS PRESENTED.
CAN YOU GO INTO WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND THEN ALSO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT PREFER ONE OVER THE OTHER AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.
YEAH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
MY NAME IS TOM FRANK AND I'M THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER AND SO IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND IN THE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED WITH THIS CLIMATE ADAPTATION STUDY YOU'VE SEEN TWO BASIC CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS INCLUDED IN THE STUDY MATERIAL, YOU HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE RETREAT NOW OPTION.
IF WE GET THE AVAILABLE FUNDING AND WE'RE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT WHAT IS SHOWN IN THAT OPTION.
IT INCLUDES THE 500 FOOT BRIDGE AND ALSO ADDITIONAL RESTORATION OF THE RIPARIAN AREA.
THE OTHER OPTION, WHICH WE INCLUDED IN OUR STAFF REPORT IS THE PHASE ADAPTATION.
THOSE ARE JUST TWO OPTIONS, BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT WE COMPLETED WITH THIS STUDY WAS QUITE A FEW MAJOR STEPS, MAJOR MILESTONES. WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE REALIGNED ROADWAY COULD LOOK LIKE, MOVING THE VEHICLE LANES EASTWARD AND THEN UTILIZING THAT SPACE FOR MORE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
BUT REALLY, AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE TO DO EXTENSIVE MORE STUDIES TO REALLY DETERMINE WHAT IS FEASIBLE.
WE HAVE TO DO GEOLOGICAL STUDIES.
WE HAVE TO STUDY MORE ABOUT COASTAL ACCESS.
WE HAVE TO STUDY WHAT WILL CROSSING THAT WATERWAY LOOK LIKE? AND THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS COMPLETED TO DATE, WE HAVE THAT 500 FOOT BRIDGE.
JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE MAGNITUDE OF COSTS THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE OPTIONS THAT BRIDGE JUST FROM A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ESTIMATE SWAG.
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THAT IS NORTH OF $150 MILLION.SO AT THIS POINT, IT'S JUST PREMATURE TO REALLY SELECT AN OPTION WITHOUT DOING THE ADDITIONAL NEEDED STUDIES, INCLUDING COST ANALYSIS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
BEFORE GETTING TO THE POINT OF SELECTING A RETREAT NOW OR A PHASED ADAPTATION OPTION AND WHAT THAT WOULD EVEN REALLY LOOK LIKE AND SO THAT'S THE TIME FRAME INVOLVED IS IN YOUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET, WHICH WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU IN JUNE WE WILL BE INCLUDING MONEY TO FURTHER THOSE STUDIES AND WITH THAT, THEN WE WILL BRING TO YOU WHEN WE CAN COMPLETE THOSE STUDIES WHAT THOSE OPTIONS LOOK LIKE AND INCLUDING COST IMPLICATIONS AND WHAT A MORE DEFINED SCOPE WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WE OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED, WOULD BE STUDYING WHAT THE COASTAL ACCESS POINTS AND WHAT THAT SCOPE LOOKS LIKE AS WELL.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS EXPLAIN WHAT THE TIMELINE IS.
AS YOU HEARD, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO GET A DESIGN IN FRONT OF YOU AS STATED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN BY 2028, AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
YES. THANK YOU AND WHILE YOU WERE SPEAKING, I HAD A COUPLE MORE POP UP REALLY QUICK.
YES OF COURSE. YEAH, IT COULD CHANGE.
YOU MENTIONED COASTAL COMMISSION.
I'M GUESSING THERE WOULD BE SOME OTHERS INCLUDED IN THAT AS WELL.
COULD YOU MAYBE ELABORATE ON THAT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO THAT'S ONE STAKEHOLDER THAT WE DEFINITELY BE COORDINATING WITH.
IN ADDITION, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE STATE, WE HAVE THE COASTAL COMMISSION AND STATE PARKS, WHICH WE ARE COORDINATING WITH CLOSELY AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CITIZENS AND THE USERS OF THE ROADWAY, THOSE ARE THE MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS.
SO THOSE ARE AND THEN ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL PERMITTING AGENCIES AS WELL, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REHABILITATING THAT WATERWAY, WE'D BE WORKING WITH THOSE PERMITTING AGENCIES AS WELL, LIKE THE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD AND IF WE HAD TO DO AN ARMY CORPS PERMIT, WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL AND A PROJECT THAT'S MAGNITUDE WILL GO THROUGH AN EIR PROCESS.
AND IN TERMS OF HOLD ON, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
I I UNDERSTAND THAT THE RETREAT NOW IS IS KIND OF IMMEDIATE NOW, RIGHT? ALL AT ONCE AND THE PHASE ADAPTATION APPROACH IS SLOWER IN THAT IT HAS DIFFERENT PIECES TO IT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE BEACH PRESERVATION COMMISSION DECIDED.
WAS IT UNANIMOUS? THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED RETREAT NOW, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO US? YES THERE IS. THERE IS A GREAT DIALOG ABOUT ALL OF THE WORK WHICH HAS BEEN DONE TO DATE.
SO EVEN PRIOR TO THIS STUDY, WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS TO THE COMMISSION AND WHAT THEY CONCLUDED ON SOME OF THEIR FINAL COMMENTS AND WHEN THE MOTION WAS BEING MADE IS THEY WERE LOOKING AT WHAT'S THE PURVIEW OF THEIR COMMISSION AND SO THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION IS BEACH PRESERVATION.
SO THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN BEACH PRESERVATION AND SAND RETENTION AND SO WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CONSIDERED AND WHAT WE PUT IN THE STUDY, YOU HEAR THERE'S TWO OPTIONS. THAT'S WHAT THEY REALLY RESONATED WITH.
SO WHEN IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT SOLELY AS TWO OPTIONS, THEY WERE LOOKING AT, WELL, IF THERE'S THESE TWO OPTIONS, LET'S GO WITH THE ONE THAT IS LIKELY TO RESULT IN A SANDY BEACH.
SO THAT'S WHEN THEY CREATED THEIR MINUTE MOTION AND IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
GREAT. THANK YOU AND I ALSO RELATED TO THAT WAS WONDERING IF AS I HEAR YOU RECOMMENDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT BOTH AND STILL DO MORE STUDIES ON BOTH.
ISN'T THAT GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN JUST KIND OF PICKING OUR PHILOSOPHY?
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AND IF OUR PHILOSOPHY IS RETREAT NOW, THEN WE SPEND LESS MONEY BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN APPROACH.COUNCILMEMBER, GREAT QUESTION AND NO, I WOULD SAY IT'S UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT AND ONE OF THE FIRST TASKS LIKE WHAT I HEARD FROM SURFRIDER AND MANY OF THE COMMENTS TODAY WAS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HEARD WITH OUR EXTENSIVE PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT WE COMPLETED BEFORE COMPLETING THIS STUDY.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID AN EXTENSIVE PUBLIC OUTREACH FOR ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE SOUTHERN COASTLINE AND WE HEARD VERY SIMILAR THINGS AND SO A COUPLE OF THINGS WE HEAR ALL THE TIME IS THAT THIS IS A TREASURE OF THE COASTLINE, THE DIAMOND OF THE COASTLINE.
PEOPLE REALLY ENJOY THAT SPACE.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY IN OUR CURRENT POLICY AND IN OUR POLICY, OUR GENERAL PLAN, ACTUALLY, UNDER THE GENERAL SAFETY ELEMENT IT STATES THERE IS A GOAL TO GIVE PRIORITY TO NONSTRUCTURAL SHORELINE PROTECTION OPTIONS.
SO A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM SURFRIDER, WE ARE DOING THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IS TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND SEARCH FOR GRANT FUNDS THAT ONCE WE DETERMINE OR HOPEFULLY ONCE WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING A GRANT FUND, THAT'S GOING TO HELP REALLY SHAPE WHAT THIS PROJECT LOOKS LIKE.
SO IF WE GO OUT AND WE GET A GRANT FUND THAT CAN FUND EVERYTHING, WHICH WE INCLUDED IN THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, LIKE A BRIDGE LIKE THAT, VERY NICE BUT EXPENSIVE BRIDGE, WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SECURE THAT LEVEL OF GRANT FUNDS, AND IT'S SOMETHING MUCH LESS THAN THAT, THEN THE LIKELY OPTIONS THAT WE STAFF WILL BE RECOMMENDING TO YOU AFTER INCLUDING THE COST ANALYSIS, WOULD LIKELY NOT INCLUDE THAT BRIDGE BECAUSE WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT, OR WE WOULD PRESENT TO YOU WHAT THOSE OPTIONS LOOK LIKE AND FUNDING OPTIONS AS WELL.
BUT IT I SHOULDN'T SAY WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
GREAT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE FUNDING, BUT BEFORE I GET THERE, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, IF I COULD PIN IT DOWN, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET TO MAKE THE DECISION ON WHICH APPROACH? LIKE WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE? BECAUSE I DID HEAR THAT BACK IN JUNE 2023, THIS COUNCIL ASKED, PLEASE BRING BACK TO US THE TWO OPTIONS AND WHAT BOTH ARE SO WE CAN PICK AN APPROACH AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT TODAY. SO THAT WAS ALMOST A YEAR AGO.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION? YEAH. SO AS I MENTIONED WE'RE PROPOSING FUNDING AND THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR TO COMPLETE STUDIES AS WE MENTIONED AND SO ONCE WE COMPLETE THOSE STUDIES THEN WE COULD BRING BACK TO YOU WHAT THOSE OPTIONS INCLUDE.
AND THAT'S THE TIME WHICH YOU WOULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AND SO IT WOULD BE BEFORE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TIMES IT WOULD BE BEFORE THE 2028 DATE WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS OR NOT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO. THAT'S OUR TARGET DATE FOR HAVING THE DESIGN COMPLETE.
SO I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE WELL BEFORE A YEAR BEFORE THAT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THREE YEARS FROM NOW WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.
IT COULD BE UP TO THREE YEARS BEFORE WE MAKE VERY FAR AWAY AND THIS COULD BE A DIFFERENT COUNCIL.
RIGHT. WHICH IS WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE.
BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO DISCUSS THOSE AND DETAIL OR ENOUGH DETAIL WITH COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO IT'S REALLY UNDEFINED AT THIS POINT.
SO LET ME GET BACK TO FUNDING AND KIND OF END THAT LINE OF QUESTIONING.
HOW WHAT IS OUR HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO GET THE REST OF THE FUNDING? SORRY, MIKE DIDN'T WANT TO WORK THERE.
THANK YOU. I CAN START ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
SO FIRST WE HAVE SUBMITTED FOR SOME FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE FIRST WAS WE SUBMITTED A REQUEST EARLIER THIS YEAR TO THE STATE COASTAL CONSERVANCY FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO JUST KIND OF KEEP US GOING FOR IT WAS FOR $200,000, BUT THAT REQUEST WAS DENIED BECAUSE OF SOME STATE BUDGET CUTS THAT ARE ONGOING.
ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE WERE PARTNERS ON WAS A VERY LARGE APPLICATION LED BY THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL POLICY AND INNOVATION CENTER, AND THEY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR THE NATIONAL OCEANIC, NOAA, NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION.
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THERE WE GO. THEIR CLIMATE RESILIENCE REGIONAL CHALLENGE.I LOST TRACK AT A CERTAIN POINT, BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE REGION.
WE WOULD FIND OUT IF WE ARE OR IF THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL POLICY AND INNOVATION CENTER IS AWARDED THAT IN SUMMER 2024, AND THAT WAS FOR APPROXIMATELY $4 MILLION FOR CARLSBAD.
I HAVE A SHORT LIST HERE OF WHAT THOSE ARE.
THERE ARE ALSO KIND OF SOME RECURRING FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
THEY HAPPEN USUALLY ONCE A YEAR.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, FEMA'S BRIC GRANT.
THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD OPTION FOR THAT.
THERE'S PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT HAVE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ADD.
SO WE WORK CLOSELY WITH JASON HABER AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES.
GREAT. THANK YOU. I KNOW A LOT OF THE COMMENTARY IN THE COMMUNITY IS THIS HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR 30 YEARS, BUT WHERE'S THE FUNDING? SO I JUST WONDERED IF YOU HAD ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON THE FUNDING SIDE, OR HAD EVEN HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE OPTIONS, LIKE THE CLIMATE RESILIENCE DISTRICT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND COUNCIL MEMBER YES.
STAFF ARE AWARE OF CLIMATE RESILIENCE DISTRICTS.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED BY SENATE BILL 852 AROUND 2023 AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW STAFF RECEIVED A PREVIOUS BRIEFING ON FROM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT THESE THAT SAID, CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT PROVIDED STAFF DIRECTION TO GO MUCH FURTHER THAN JUST KIND OF THE INFORMATIONAL PHASE.
SO AT THIS POINT, AGAIN, WE'VE DONE A LITTLE LOOKING INTO.
SO SAID ANOTHER WAY, IF COUNCIL PROVIDES US DIRECTION TO LOOK AT OTHER FUNDING ALTERNATIVES, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS POTENTIAL OPTIONS WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PLANNING PROCESS.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
MISS BHAT-PATEL, YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? ACTUALLY, MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT FUNDING, SO IT'S BEEN ANSWERED.
SO I SIT ON THE SANDAG SHORELINE PRESERVATION WORK GROUP.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE TALKING WITH MR. NICK STUPIN BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL TYPES OF FUNDING EFFORTS.
KATIE'S NODDING. YES. SO OKAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL TYPE OF THINGS.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE A POSITION AND HAVE A MINUTE MOTION THAT STAFF COME BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT FORMATION OF A CLIMATE RESILIENCY DISTRICT, A CRD.
ONCE AGAIN, THE BUDGET IS COMING UP.
IF THERE IS A NEED FOR SOME MONEY FOR SOME FUNDING THERE, MR. CITY MANAGER, THEN INDICATE THAT IS NECESSARY.
I'M TELLING YOU THAT THIS REVETMENT IS SORT OF WHERE THE SCIENTISTS ARE GOING, AND IT IS NEEDED SOONER THAN LATER AND THE SCIENCE BEHIND HOW OUR BEACHES ARE BEING ERODED IS SORT OF IT'S IN FLUX. THERE'S A NEW THEORY.
SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
SO WE'RE THERE IN A STATE OF FLUX IN DEFENSE OF THEM.
THEY DON'T. THEY'RE NOT REALLY 100% SURE.
HOWEVER, I THINK THE CRD, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN OTHER AREAS IT CAN BE USED AS LEVERAGE TO APPLY FOR MONIES AND IF IT IS SOMETHING AND WE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY UP HERE, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD, THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT PROVIDING MAYBE SOME FUNDING TO THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
DID YOU MAKE A MOTION? I MADE A MOTION SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, BUT I WANT TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.
THAT'S THE PROS. ARE THERE SOME CONS TO THIS? SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
COUNCIL. GIVEN THAT THERE'S A MOAT? IT'S BEEN MOTIONED AND SECONDED AND FOR THE DISCUSSION PORTION, OUR ANALYSIS, WE CAN COME BACK AND WE CAN PROVIDE THE PROS AND THE CONS, AS WELL AS IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? PLEASE VOTE. I'M SORRY.
[INAUDIBLE] WE'RE VOTING JUST ON THIS ONE TOPIC RIGHT HERE, NOT ON THE ON ANYTHING ELSE.
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THIS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MISS BURKHOLDER? OKAY. THAT OPEN SPACE.
WE HAVE THE NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND LANES AND THEN THERE'S THAT LOT OF OPEN SPACE IN BETWEEN.
IS THAT CONSIDERED PROTECTED HABITAT OR ANYTHING? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME MITIGATION BECAUSE OF MOVING A ROAD OVER THERE? THAT'S ONE OF THE STUDIES WHICH WILL BE UNDERTAKING IS ANALYZING WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR THAT SPACE.
OKAY AND ONE OF THE OTHER MAJOR STUDIES WHICH WILL WE WILL BE UNDERTAKING.
AND ONE OF THE ASKS OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION IS ACTUALLY TO DEVELOP A FUNDING STRATEGY.
MISS LUNA, YOU'VE ALREADY MADE YOUR COMMENTS.
WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THAT AREA AND THE DIP IN THE ROAD, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP PEOPLE SAFE FIRST AND FOREMOST AND SO YEAH, JUST I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING AHEAD AND I ALSO JUST GOING TO COMMENT, MISS HENDRICH, THAT I'M GLAD YOU HAVE A LOT OF ENERGY BECAUSE YOU HAD TO PRESENT LAST WEEK, TOO.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER BIG BALL OF WAX FOR YOU.
THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO THIS AND FOR, YOU KNOW, ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS WITH SUCH FLEXIBILITY AND DEXTERITY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE ASK A LOT OF HARD QUESTIONS SOMETIMES. SO THANK YOU.
I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT WE ALL CARE SO MUCH ABOUT OUR COASTLINE.
SEVEN MILES OR SO IS BEACH AND WE ALL HAVE IN OUR DISTRICTS A BIT OF THE BEACH AND I LOVE THAT IS THE WAY THAT OUR DISTRICTS WERE DRAWN SO THAT WE ALL HAVE, YOU KNOW, VOTERS AND A STAKE IN THAT, THAT PART OF THE CITY ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
SO WHETHER WE LIVE BY IT OR NOT, WE ALL ENJOY IT, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING OUR BEACHES, THE SAND ON THE BEACHES AND OUR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR NEAR THE BEACH FROM FALLING AS SAN CLEMENTE AND OTHER AREAS HAVE HAVE FALLEN.
BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION SOONER THAN 2027 ABOUT OUR APPROACH, BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT IS PUSHING IT OUT TOO LONG.
YES, THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANKS TO THE SPEAKERS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND YES, I THINK EXCITED THAT WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CLIMATE RESILIENCY DISTRICT, HAVING AN ANALYSIS ON ON THAT AND UNDERSTANDING WHETHER OR NOT WE'D WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
I ALSO KNOW THAT I'VE GROWN UP SEEING THE SHIFT AND THE CHANGE OVER THAT WAY.
I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY BENEFIT FROM HAVING SOME CHANGES MADE SO THAT REGARDLESS OF MODE OF TRANSIT OR WHATEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, ENJOY OUT THERE THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
SO WHATEVER OPTIONS ARE BROUGHT BEFORE US, I KNOW YOU ALL WILL TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, INCLUDING, OF COURSE, THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY THAT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE BEFORE US. BUT I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO MAKE IT AS ACCESSIBLE AND SAFE FOR EVERYONE.
AND I KNOW OUR CITY IS COMMITTED TO THAT.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE FINALLY MAKING A LITTLE BIT OF HEADWAY.
OBVIOUSLY DOLLARS AND CENTS ARE GOING TO BE SLOWING US DOWN.
BUT WHEN WE DO IT JUST FROM MY $0.02 IS I'D LIKE TO DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
I DON'T WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT AND THEN CHIP AWAY AT IT OVER THE YEARS.
THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE RETREAT NOW.
OR LIKE ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID RETREAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO JUST VOICE MY OPINION.
ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT NOT REDUCING IT TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION.
SO I'M IT SHOULD BE NO SURPRISE THAT I'M GOING TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, BUT I'M HOPING THAT THERE'LL BE ENOUGH ROOM ONCE WE'VE MOVED THE EVERYTHING TO THE EAST, THAT THERE'LL BE ENOUGH ROOM TO ACCOMMODATE PLENTY OF BICYCLE SPACE AND TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING MORE ON THIS TOPIC.
MISS LUNA? YOU'RE NOT AN OUTLIER.
I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THAT WHAT YOU JUST RAISED, STRONGLY.[INAUDIBLE] I'M
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SORRY, WE'RE NOT GIVING INSTRUCTIONS.I'M GIVING. I'M JUST GIVING MY INPUT FOR WHEN IT WHEN IT GETS BROUGHT BACK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS, MISS BURKHOLDER ON THIS ITEM OR ON THIS ITEM OKAY.
STAFF. THERE'S NOTHING TO VOTE ON ON THIS.
THIS IS INFORMATIONAL AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR COUNCIL MEETING.
[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
MISS LUNA, ANYTHING? MS. BURKHOLDER? JUST SANDAG ON FRIDAY, 9 A.M.THANK YOU. I WANTED TO REPORT ON THE ADVOCACY TRIP THAT I TOOK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO SPEAK WITH LEGISLATORS, INCLUDING OUR LEGISLATORS, TASHA BERNER AND SENATOR CATHERINE BLAKE SPEER.
ONE IS ON E-BIKE SAFETY AND THE OTHER IS ON CYBERSECURITY.
THEY DO GET CHANGED THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND BEING AMENDED.
SO WE'LL SEE AND WE'LL STAY TUNED.
BUT THE ADVOCACY THAT WE DO IS REALLY TO PROTECT OUR CITY AND TO ENSURE THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR LOCAL AUTHORITY, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS LOCAL CONTROL, OVER THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE ARE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN AUTHORITY OVER.
SO THINGS LIKE LAND USE THAT THE STATE OFTEN TRIES TO STEP INTO.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT MEETING AND DISCUSSING OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
WE HAD A LOT OF LIVELY DISCUSSIONS AROUND SOME SPECIFIC BILLS.
AND THEN I DO HAVE COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS THE NCTD PERFORMANCE ADMINISTRATION AND FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, THE NCTD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, AND THEN OUR CARLSBAD CITY SCHOOLS COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA AND I BOTH SIT ON.
I JUST ALSO BRIEFLY WANTED TO MENTION ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RECOGNITION AND PROMOTIONS THAT WE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO ATTEND WHICH WAS IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO SEE THE FAMILIES THERE AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE OBSERVING AND CELEBRATING FOR PASSOVER, I KNOW IT STARTED YESTERDAY, SO JUST WANTED TO WISH YOU A HAPPY PASSOVER.
[CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]
AND WILL YOU PLEASE ADDRESS WHAT YOU DID? WHAT WAS IT YESTERDAY? YEAH. YES, SIR.YESTERDAY I HAD THE PLEASURE TO FLY UP TO SACRAMENTO TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF TASHA BERNERS BILL, WHICH IS ON OUR BEHALF 2234 AND IT'S SUCCESSFULLY PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE, SO.
THE SECOND THING I JUST NEED TO DO IS HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO LAURA.
[CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS]
THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE CITY MANAGER HAD HIS TURN YESTERDAY.I'LL BE FLYING UP ON MAY 1ST TO ADVOCATE FOR THE CYBERSECURITY BILL.
DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.