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CALL TO ORDER: 6:00 P.M.
Roll call (5 Present, 0 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:05:32)
ROLL CALL:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held September 23, 2008.
minutes approved. Mayor lewis announced closed session and City Attorney directed City Council and Staff.
adjourned at 5:45
CONSENT CALENDAR: The items listed under Consent Calendar are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion as listed. There will be no separate discussion on these items prior to the vote, unless an item is removed.
all items pulled
WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: This is a motion to waive the reading of the text of all ordinances and resolutions at this meeting.
resend agenda items waiver.
1. AB #19,604 - APPROVE LICENSE AGREEMENT. Approving a license agreement with Omnipoint Communications, Inc., dba T-Mobile USA, for continuation of use of its cellular antenna site at Calavera Hills Community Park. Resolution No. 2008-285 ACTION:
AB #19,604
2. AB #19,605 - APPROVE FINAL MAP FOR BRESSI RANCH MEDICAL PLAZA. Approving the Final Map for Bressi Ranch Medical Plaza, and authorizing the Final Map to be recorded, CT 07-04. Resolution No. 2008-286. ACTION:
AB #19,605
3. AB #19,606 - SUMMARY VACATION OF SEWER EASEMENT. Summarily vacating a Public Sewer Easement over Lot 2 of Carlsbad Oaks North, CT 97-13, PR 08-23. Resolution No. 2008-287. ACTION:
AB #19,606
ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION:
4. AB #19,607 - ESTABLISH A PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON EL FUERTE STREET. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by revising Section 10.44.220 to establish a prima facie 45 mile per hour speed limit on El Fuerte Street from Palomar Airport Road to Faraday Avenue. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-013. ACTION:
City Attorney Ron Ball titled the Ordinance
Motion to approve 4. AB #19,607 - ESTABLISH A PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON EL FUERTE STREET. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by revising Section 10.44.220 to establish a prima facie 45 mile per hour speed limit on El Fuerte Street from Palomar Airport Road to Faraday Avenue. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-013. ACTION: Moved by , seconded by .
Vote to approve 4. AB #19,607 - ESTABLISH A PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON EL FUERTE STREET. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by revising Section 10.44.220 to establish a prima facie 45 mile per hour speed limit on El Fuerte Street from Palomar Airport Road to Faraday Avenue. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-013. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:09:33)
AB #19,607
ORDINANCES FOR ADOPTION:
5. AB #19,608 - FENTON CARLSBAD CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN. Adopting Ordinance No. CS-011, amending Section 21.05.030 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code by an amendment to the Zoning Map to grant a Zone Change (ZC 07-04) on three lots from Planned Industrial to Office; and, Adopting Ordinance No. CS-012, adopting the Fenton Carlsbad Center Specific Plan (SP 07-02) on property generally located on the west side of El Camino Real between College Boulevard and Faraday Avenue in Local Facilities Management Zone 5. ACTION:
Fenton Carlsbad Specific Plan. City Attorney Ron Ball titled the ordinance.
Motion to approve 5. AB #19,608 - FENTON CARLSBAD CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN. Adopting Ordinance No. CS-011, amending Section 21.05.030 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code by an amendment to the Zoning Map to grant a Zone Change (ZC 07-04) on three lots from Planned Industrial to Office; and, Adopting Ordinance No. CS-012, adopting the Fenton Carlsbad Center Specific Plan (SP 07-02) on property generally located on the west side of El Camino Real between College Boulevard and Faraday Avenue in Local Facilities Management Zone 5. ACTION: Moved by , seconded by .
Vote to approve 5. AB #19,608 - FENTON CARLSBAD CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN. Adopting Ordinance No. CS-011, amending Section 21.05.030 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code by an amendment to the Zoning Map to grant a Zone Change (ZC 07-04) on three lots from Planned Industrial to Office; and, Adopting Ordinance No. CS-012, adopting the Fenton Carlsbad Center Specific Plan (SP 07-02) on property generally located on the west side of El Camino Real between College Boulevard and Faraday Avenue in Local Facilities Management Zone 5. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:10:33)
AB #19,608
PUBLIC COMMENT: In conformance with the Brown Act, no Council action can occur on items presented during Public Comment. A total of 15 minutes is provided so members of the public can address the Council on items that are not listed on the Agenda. Speakers are limited to three (3) minutes each. If you desire to speak during Public Comment, fill out a SPEAKER CARD and place it in the clear tray on the wall adjacent to the Deputy City Clerk. If there are more than five (5) speakers, the remaining speakers will be heard at the end of the agenda just prior to Council Reports. When you are called to speak, please come forward and state your name and address.
Paul Jacinto MRs. Jacinto, John Teasley, Bonnie Packard and Michele Levy
Mr. Jacinto: To speak about Proposition 8, in support of. Quoted John Adams, Constitution made for a moral and religious people. Liberties are a gift from God. Without question same sex marriage possess a direct the threat to the religious people. Marriage with mother and father is best for Children in the family structure.
Elizabeth Jacinto spoke in support of proposition 8. California Supreme Court failed the people of California for changing the will of 62% of the people. Same sex marriage is a radical change in society, being forced on society. Enfringement on right of free speech and freedom of religion. Religious charities can no longer offer adoptive services because they won't let same sex couples adopt. Don't want to remove rights of domestic partnerships. Not discriminating.
John Teasley, Carlsbad, spoke in support of traditional marriage. Appian Road. Traditional definition of marriage reinstated in Constitution. Most common argument-it won't affect traditional marriage, it won't bother you so why do you care. No immediate affect but society as whole later in time. Mandatory changes in school curriculum. right of parents to teach children tthier values. will be undermined.
gender neutral society will be damaging to children. he's here for his children who will be in the public school system for several years to come. Urging council to support prop 8.
Bonnie Packard, Carlsbad, spoke in support of proposition 8. Great social significance. Quoted Genesis regarding gender and marriage, is central to God's plan of happiness for His children. Marriage is for bringing children in the world. Marriage between man and woman central to society throughout civilizations. Not to devalue or discriminate against domestic partnerships.
defending sanctity of marriage
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, $16 millions in taxes, Farmer's building, why we still have it? Ms. Kulchin, why do we still have Farmer's Building. The building isn't being used, why do we have?
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ADJOURNMENT TO CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT MEETING
CITY OF CARLSBAD
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AGENDA
Special Meeting
October 14, 2008
6:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:27:58)
Minutes of the Special Meeting held September 23, 2008.
CONSENT CALENDAR: The items listed under Consent Calendar are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion as listed. There will be no separate discussion on these items prior to the vote, unless an item is removed.
WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: This is a motion to waive the reading of the text of all ordinances and resolutions at this meeting.
6. AB #671 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the Lake Calavera Remedial Improvements as complete, and directing the Secretary to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 3821-1. Resolution No. 1341. ACTION:
7. AB #672 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the Reservoir Fencing Project for "E" Tank, "Tap" Reservoir, "Santa Fe II" and "La Costa Lo" Tank as complete, and directing the Secretary to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 3822. Resolution No. 1342. ACTION:
AB #672
ADJOURNMENT TO CONTINUATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CONTINUATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
8. AB #19,609 - ENVISION CARLSBAD CITIZENS COMMITTEE. To consider creating the Envision Carlsbad Citizens Committee and appointing members to said committee. Resolution No. 2008-288. ACTION:
adjourned CMWD at 6:22. consent calendar approved 5/0
EC3 presentation by Jennifer Jesser and Sandra Holder.
STake holder interviews. Presentation Citizens Committee purpose and structure.
Jennifer Jesser Senior Planner: purpose of committee both phases of envision carlsbad process. What does the community want for the future of carlsbad? WHat's their vision of Carlsbad in the future.
July 2008 council directed staff to start forming the committee. 19 members all citizens, environmental, social, and economic perspective, each quadrant and both high schools.
listed all the ways the community was notified about the committee to give people the information about EC3 and how to apply.
AB #671
8. AB #19,609 - ENVISION CARLSBAD CITIZENS COMMITTEE. To consider creating the Envision Carlsbad Citizens Committee and appointing members to said committee. Resolution No. 2008-288. ACTION:
In response, they received 53 applications for primary and 15 wanting to be alternate. 2 nominations for primary, one from each high school. Not making nomination for high school students yet. Waiting for alternate from LCC. Alternates intended to fill in for primary who cannot attend a meeting.
Recommend that primary and alternate be from same organization and quadrant. to maintain continuity with same focus and vision. Alternate is encouraged to attend even if primary can attend to be up to speed for meetings they might need to fill in for.
The alternate would be asked to attend in place of the primary.
Following committees appointment tonight, first meeting in November to go over the roles and responsibilities. First of 2009 kick off of the committee meetings. More information is available envisioncarlsbad.org. comments, suggestions, etc.
Questions: Mayor high school level suggest only 2 kids from CHS. Want alternate before make appointment for LCC. Jesser said we don't have alternate for LCC.
Mayor what about the other groups that don't have alternate. Should we wait for them to all have alternates? She said no, some will not have alternates.
Ms. Nygaard-alternates, all materials will be given to alt and primary for all meetings? to keep alternate up to speed. Holder said yes.
Hall wants to see second slide. Carlsbad did not just happen. HIstory of carlsbad needs to be included to see the future? Will that be part of the process of the committee? Holder, educational forum to bring people up to speed give them background about Carlsbad City and how it came to be. Growth management policies, etc. he thinks need to be part of the conversation. Holder said good input. Hall- some sort of education about what's important for carlsbad.
SB 375 is just approved by state legislation. Carbon foot print and energy usage. Will make changes in the future for development and density, etc. SB375 may challenge some of our zoning for future vision plan.
QUestion from Hall, you're asking for each of us to appoint member and alternate. Each primary member is responsible to fill in the alternate when the alternate doesn't attend a meeting. If they are all attending the meeting then that's good. Let the group limit the conversation to insure continuity at each meeting. Encourage participation instead of observation. Holder said the first meeting will tell members what's expected of the them
Packard said his challenge was that all wanted to be primary member. Hardest decision was to who should be primary and who should be alternate. lots of people want to be involved. Has a cap been put on scope of topics to be discussed? Agenda been set regarding topics address? Holder is expecting topics from community. Grassroots process. Develop the strategic plan for the future with lots of input from the community. Packard, staff needs to point the way suggesting some of the topic.
Nygaard, when you send the letters, please explain the working relationship between the primary and alternate. Need to understand the relationship, alternate always welcome to attend and participate.
Kulchin, we should pick the best people and then step out of the way. Let them decide what the topics should be. Mayor give them some conceptual ideas where to start.
NW Quadrant Nygaard primary Paul THompson and Dain Packard NE p kurt couls, diane proulx Hall, SW primary lisa toumi francis and jeff segull SE Joh O'reily
Agua Hedionda three people. I have all this info already.Carlsbad VIllage Improvement Julie Baker, Eric Barson, the other 5 will come on board as soon as they choose an alternate.
Holder-some names submitted but not in time. They'll distribute them to council but will make the appointments based on the principal recommendation.
Motion to approve 8. AB #19,609 - ENVISION CARLSBAD CITIZENS COMMITTEE. To consider creating the Envision Carlsbad Citizens Committee and appointing members to said committee. Resolution No. 2008-288. ACTION: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve 8. AB #19,609 - ENVISION CARLSBAD CITIZENS COMMITTEE. To consider creating the Envision Carlsbad Citizens Committee and appointing members to said committee. Resolution No. 2008-288. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:53:10)
Recess at 6:47
Reconvened at 6:53
AB #19,609
9. AB #19,610 - REPORT ON NRG'S PROPOSED CARLSBAD ENERGY CENTER PROJECT. To receive an update from staff on the California Energy Commission's proceedings regarding NRG's proposal to construct a new power plant. ACTION:
NRG Update from Joe Garuba. Visual simulations.
Someone else spoke first. I didn't catch his name but he's an employee with glasses and goatee.
Recent activities, aug 2008 passed resolution to oppose the NRG project at it's currently proposed site. City doesn't mind the project just the location. The reso also stressed non coastal industrial should be located away from Coastal area. Citizens group formed but not by the city to study this topic.
NRG held open house for citizens to answer questions
Community efforts speaker's bureau contact with outside groups and website. City staff correspondence, 3rd set of data requests, letters to CEC ,NRG and SDGE, new site and visual simulations. staff concern about visual concern about the project, site constraints, projects planned will be impacted by this project at proposed sites, sent letter to sdge regarding a switch station. Non coastal dependant use should go elsewhere.
city hired professional visual simulations, graphics shows future project
graphics company also prepared a site plan overlay of current aerial photos. relocations of switch yard also shown on graph.
cal trans plans to widen I-5 will also be problematic. Cal trans ROW will be problem for new power plant.
With the widening, burm and trees removed making the power plant more visible from the freeway.
Long planned carlsbad vista sewer interceptor plan also could be a problem if they go ahead with the power plant as planned.
Coastal rail trail, lift station part of upgrade for interceptor. This is not info provided to CEC, they were told about 2 1/2 years ago but they reiterated this information to CEC.
Visual simulations, power plant old one not being removed at this time. Burms and tree removal from widening will expose the power plant to traffic
Upcoming events, the city will be sending out jmailer to residents and property owers with the visual. postcard provided for people to send info to CEC. NRG and City attending CEC to provide information. Event held at Faraday city organized november 6th. CEC will be available to update citizens on project.
primary events, draft priliminary, sept 2007 anticipated, staff access would be heard by CEC. will not take place in 11-2008 or 1-2009. delays other major events in CEC project schedule. Decision anticipated in 2010. Questions
Kulchin, odonnell is the guy. How was that committee forms, the group that formed of citizens. How was that visual done? Actual? ODonnell said yes it's acurate. Hall, regarding pictures of widening, I5, west, ribbon around site? Is that the depression? 21 feet down, the grew lines are the road getting down to it. Questions from certain slides lite grey under ground. elevation of 21 feet. Height of the road, looking into the workings of the power plant. From the freeway you'll see into the turbines, etc.
Garuba, unknown is CAL TRans and their retaining walls, waiting for Cal Trans to show what their widening will change the current landscaping, etc. Sound walls for freeway noise and power plant.
Garuba, the walls or other structures required for noise will open another set of issues. Packard, is the relocation of the transfer station part of the proposed package to the CEC. Garuba-switch yard was included in their latest supplement to CEC. Some steps for SDGE to get it approved. The rest of that answer from NRG. PAckard, again, nov. 6, 2008 public workshop hosted by the city, CEC large time gaps in their meeting schedule, this will give citizens chance to stay informed.
Keep the citizens involved and informed. CEC there to anser questions. WHat kind of questions can they answer at this time? Garuba, this process is different than we've seen in the past. CEC to explain process to people, timeframes, how to be engages, Packard can they answer any technical questions ie noise mitigation? Garuba said no.
Nygaard, switch yard, existing power plant, when will it be decommissioned. That adds to visual impact. Odonnel, no date set.
Issue hasnot been raised by CEC? Garuba said not specifically because of environmental issues will need some mitigation. Rule 16B technical rulling. Requirements and cost for this plant and other power plants, the useful life of these plants is drawing near.
Mayor, talk about plant has it's one facility ??? didn't hear him. Same process as poseidon, working for a long time to get through all the agencies. Garuba they go through CEC which has supremacy. Still need to go through regional board for water issue but don't need coastal permit. Might need to amend their agreement.
Mayor everyone else goes through regular process. CEC has jurisdiction. Different needs so they can go through the approval process differently. Ron Ball coastal comm should be issuing report, we requested that. even if we don't need coastal comm permit we want to see that report.
Mayor question about elevation visual simulation. The city has limited control, CEC will determine the outcome. The old plant will be out based on many factors, grid in california. CEC SDGE all these have say and PUC, alot of ISO needs to approve the old plant retire. Could be TEN years? Garuba said could be there that long or longer.
Can this plant be expanded? Garuba said ask NRG but they've heard they could expand for one more unit.
Kulchin in reference to comment Power of Vision committee
Julie Baker, citizens group formed for purpose of relocating plant off coastal site as long as ocean water no longer needed to cool the plant. Land use for citizens and residents of north county. Want that site moved east. Kulchin asked how to get involved, website powerofvisioncarlsbad.com to get involved and inform and educate carlsbad residents.
Mayor asked NRG invited to your meetings? Julie said yes absolutely.
AB #19,610
PUBLIC COMMENT: Continuation of the Public Comments (if necessary) The remainder of the categories are for reporting purposes. In conformance with the Brown Act, no public testimony and no Council action can occur on these items.
Consent calendar discussion: item #1: cell site spoke in support of fire department master plan.
2 years ago started asking for study to verify what fire chief has already been asking for. Would prove the personal to be correct.
City spent money on prop d and meetings and communications and information. But couldn't pay for fire study? The lands aren't even owned by the City.
Item #2 final map for bressi ranch
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, spoke in support of a fire department master plan. Still waiting for it. Buildings have priority over our safety? Fire department has not grown with the City? Why are we so ignored?
Item #3 summary to vacate , Michele Levy, spoke in support of Fire Department Master Plan.
Another week and nothing done. On manager's desk since August. Can we see it on the agenda next week?
Motion to approve PUBLIC COMMENT: Continuation of the Public Comments (if necessary) The remainder of the categories are for reporting purposes. In conformance with the Brown Act, no public testimony and no Council action can occur on these items. Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve PUBLIC COMMENT: Continuation of the Public Comments (if necessary) The remainder of the categories are for reporting purposes. In conformance with the Brown Act, no public testimony and no Council action can occur on these items. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:39:27)
consent calendar approved 5/0
different views have been tolerated, debate but civil debate. Carlsbad already this silly season has seen some change to that. Respecting other people on differing views. Those who demand tolerance are not reciprocating that.
Nothing. Clerk has announcements
adjourned at 7:37
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CALL TO ORDER: 6:00 P.M.
Roll call (5 Present, 0 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:05:32)
ROLL CALL:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held September 23, 2008.
minutes approved. Mayor lewis announced closed session and City Attorney directed City Council and Staff.
adjourned at 5:45
CONSENT CALENDAR: The items listed under Consent Calendar are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion as listed. There will be no separate discussion on these items prior to the vote, unless an item is removed.
all items pulled
WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: This is a motion to waive the reading of the text of all ordinances and resolutions at this meeting.
resend agenda items waiver.
1. AB #19,604 - APPROVE LICENSE AGREEMENT. Approving a license agreement with Omnipoint Communications, Inc., dba T-Mobile USA, for continuation of use of its cellular antenna site at Calavera Hills Community Park. Resolution No. 2008-285 ACTION:
AB #19,604
2. AB #19,605 - APPROVE FINAL MAP FOR BRESSI RANCH MEDICAL PLAZA. Approving the Final Map for Bressi Ranch Medical Plaza, and authorizing the Final Map to be recorded, CT 07-04. Resolution No. 2008-286. ACTION:
AB #19,605
3. AB #19,606 - SUMMARY VACATION OF SEWER EASEMENT. Summarily vacating a Public Sewer Easement over Lot 2 of Carlsbad Oaks North, CT 97-13, PR 08-23. Resolution No. 2008-287. ACTION:
AB #19,606
ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION:
4. AB #19,607 - ESTABLISH A PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON EL FUERTE STREET. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by revising Section 10.44.220 to establish a prima facie 45 mile per hour speed limit on El Fuerte Street from Palomar Airport Road to Faraday Avenue. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-013. ACTION:
City Attorney Ron Ball titled the Ordinance
Motion to approve 4. AB #19,607 - ESTABLISH A PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON EL FUERTE STREET. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by revising Section 10.44.220 to establish a prima facie 45 mile per hour speed limit on El Fuerte Street from Palomar Airport Road to Faraday Avenue. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-013. ACTION: Moved by , seconded by .
Vote to approve 4. AB #19,607 - ESTABLISH A PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON EL FUERTE STREET. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by revising Section 10.44.220 to establish a prima facie 45 mile per hour speed limit on El Fuerte Street from Palomar Airport Road to Faraday Avenue. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-013. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:09:33)
AB #19,607
ORDINANCES FOR ADOPTION:
5. AB #19,608 - FENTON CARLSBAD CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN. Adopting Ordinance No. CS-011, amending Section 21.05.030 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code by an amendment to the Zoning Map to grant a Zone Change (ZC 07-04) on three lots from Planned Industrial to Office; and, Adopting Ordinance No. CS-012, adopting the Fenton Carlsbad Center Specific Plan (SP 07-02) on property generally located on the west side of El Camino Real between College Boulevard and Faraday Avenue in Local Facilities Management Zone 5. ACTION:
Fenton Carlsbad Specific Plan. City Attorney Ron Ball titled the ordinance.
Motion to approve 5. AB #19,608 - FENTON CARLSBAD CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN. Adopting Ordinance No. CS-011, amending Section 21.05.030 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code by an amendment to the Zoning Map to grant a Zone Change (ZC 07-04) on three lots from Planned Industrial to Office; and, Adopting Ordinance No. CS-012, adopting the Fenton Carlsbad Center Specific Plan (SP 07-02) on property generally located on the west side of El Camino Real between College Boulevard and Faraday Avenue in Local Facilities Management Zone 5. ACTION: Moved by , seconded by .
Vote to approve 5. AB #19,608 - FENTON CARLSBAD CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN. Adopting Ordinance No. CS-011, amending Section 21.05.030 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code by an amendment to the Zoning Map to grant a Zone Change (ZC 07-04) on three lots from Planned Industrial to Office; and, Adopting Ordinance No. CS-012, adopting the Fenton Carlsbad Center Specific Plan (SP 07-02) on property generally located on the west side of El Camino Real between College Boulevard and Faraday Avenue in Local Facilities Management Zone 5. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:10:33)
AB #19,608
PUBLIC COMMENT: In conformance with the Brown Act, no Council action can occur on items presented during Public Comment. A total of 15 minutes is provided so members of the public can address the Council on items that are not listed on the Agenda. Speakers are limited to three (3) minutes each. If you desire to speak during Public Comment, fill out a SPEAKER CARD and place it in the clear tray on the wall adjacent to the Deputy City Clerk. If there are more than five (5) speakers, the remaining speakers will be heard at the end of the agenda just prior to Council Reports. When you are called to speak, please come forward and state your name and address.
Paul Jacinto MRs. Jacinto, John Teasley, Bonnie Packard and Michele Levy
Mr. Jacinto: To speak about Proposition 8, in support of. Quoted John Adams, Constitution made for a moral and religious people. Liberties are a gift from God. Without question same sex marriage possess a direct the threat to the religious people. Marriage with mother and father is best for Children in the family structure.
Elizabeth Jacinto spoke in support of proposition 8. California Supreme Court failed the people of California for changing the will of 62% of the people. Same sex marriage is a radical change in society, being forced on society. Enfringement on right of free speech and freedom of religion. Religious charities can no longer offer adoptive services because they won't let same sex couples adopt. Don't want to remove rights of domestic partnerships. Not discriminating.
John Teasley, Carlsbad, spoke in support of traditional marriage. Appian Road. Traditional definition of marriage reinstated in Constitution. Most common argument-it won't affect traditional marriage, it won't bother you so why do you care. No immediate affect but society as whole later in time. Mandatory changes in school curriculum. right of parents to teach children tthier values. will be undermined.
gender neutral society will be damaging to children. he's here for his children who will be in the public school system for several years to come. Urging council to support prop 8.
Bonnie Packard, Carlsbad, spoke in support of proposition 8. Great social significance. Quoted Genesis regarding gender and marriage, is central to God's plan of happiness for His children. Marriage is for bringing children in the world. Marriage between man and woman central to society throughout civilizations. Not to devalue or discriminate against domestic partnerships.
defending sanctity of marriage
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, $16 millions in taxes, Farmer's building, why we still have it? Ms. Kulchin, why do we still have Farmer's Building. The building isn't being used, why do we have?
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ADJOURNMENT TO CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT MEETING
CITY OF CARLSBAD
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AGENDA
Special Meeting
October 14, 2008
6:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:27:58)
Minutes of the Special Meeting held September 23, 2008.
CONSENT CALENDAR: The items listed under Consent Calendar are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion as listed. There will be no separate discussion on these items prior to the vote, unless an item is removed.
WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: This is a motion to waive the reading of the text of all ordinances and resolutions at this meeting.
6. AB #671 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the Lake Calavera Remedial Improvements as complete, and directing the Secretary to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 3821-1. Resolution No. 1341. ACTION:
7. AB #672 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the Reservoir Fencing Project for "E" Tank, "Tap" Reservoir, "Santa Fe II" and "La Costa Lo" Tank as complete, and directing the Secretary to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 3822. Resolution No. 1342. ACTION:
AB #672
ADJOURNMENT TO CONTINUATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CONTINUATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
8. AB #19,609 - ENVISION CARLSBAD CITIZENS COMMITTEE. To consider creating the Envision Carlsbad Citizens Committee and appointing members to said committee. Resolution No. 2008-288. ACTION:
adjourned CMWD at 6:22. consent calendar approved 5/0
EC3 presentation by Jennifer Jesser and Sandra Holder.
STake holder interviews. Presentation Citizens Committee purpose and structure.
Jennifer Jesser Senior Planner: purpose of committee both phases of envision carlsbad process. What does the community want for the future of carlsbad? WHat's their vision of Carlsbad in the future.
July 2008 council directed staff to start forming the committee. 19 members all citizens, environmental, social, and economic perspective, each quadrant and both high schools.
listed all the ways the community was notified about the committee to give people the information about EC3 and how to apply.
AB #671
8. AB #19,609 - ENVISION CARLSBAD CITIZENS COMMITTEE. To consider creating the Envision Carlsbad Citizens Committee and appointing members to said committee. Resolution No. 2008-288. ACTION:
In response, they received 53 applications for primary and 15 wanting to be alternate. 2 nominations for primary, one from each high school. Not making nomination for high school students yet. Waiting for alternate from LCC. Alternates intended to fill in for primary who cannot attend a meeting.
Recommend that primary and alternate be from same organization and quadrant. to maintain continuity with same focus and vision. Alternate is encouraged to attend even if primary can attend to be up to speed for meetings they might need to fill in for.
The alternate would be asked to attend in place of the primary.
Following committees appointment tonight, first meeting in November to go over the roles and responsibilities. First of 2009 kick off of the committee meetings. More information is available envisioncarlsbad.org. comments, suggestions, etc.
Questions: Mayor high school level suggest only 2 kids from CHS. Want alternate before make appointment for LCC. Jesser said we don't have alternate for LCC.
Mayor what about the other groups that don't have alternate. Should we wait for them to all have alternates? She said no, some will not have alternates.
Ms. Nygaard-alternates, all materials will be given to alt and primary for all meetings? to keep alternate up to speed. Holder said yes.
Hall wants to see second slide. Carlsbad did not just happen. HIstory of carlsbad needs to be included to see the future? Will that be part of the process of the committee? Holder, educational forum to bring people up to speed give them background about Carlsbad City and how it came to be. Growth management policies, etc. he thinks need to be part of the conversation. Holder said good input. Hall- some sort of education about what's important for carlsbad.
SB 375 is just approved by state legislation. Carbon foot print and energy usage. Will make changes in the future for development and density, etc. SB375 may challenge some of our zoning for future vision plan.
QUestion from Hall, you're asking for each of us to appoint member and alternate. Each primary member is responsible to fill in the alternate when the alternate doesn't attend a meeting. If they are all attending the meeting then that's good. Let the group limit the conversation to insure continuity at each meeting. Encourage participation instead of observation. Holder said the first meeting will tell members what's expected of the them
Packard said his challenge was that all wanted to be primary member. Hardest decision was to who should be primary and who should be alternate. lots of people want to be involved. Has a cap been put on scope of topics to be discussed? Agenda been set regarding topics address? Holder is expecting topics from community. Grassroots process. Develop the strategic plan for the future with lots of input from the community. Packard, staff needs to point the way suggesting some of the topic.
Nygaard, when you send the letters, please explain the working relationship between the primary and alternate. Need to understand the relationship, alternate always welcome to attend and participate.
Kulchin, we should pick the best people and then step out of the way. Let them decide what the topics should be. Mayor give them some conceptual ideas where to start.
NW Quadrant Nygaard primary Paul THompson and Dain Packard NE p kurt couls, diane proulx Hall, SW primary lisa toumi francis and jeff segull SE Joh O'reily
Agua Hedionda three people. I have all this info already.Carlsbad VIllage Improvement Julie Baker, Eric Barson, the other 5 will come on board as soon as they choose an alternate.
Holder-some names submitted but not in time. They'll distribute them to council but will make the appointments based on the principal recommendation.
Motion to approve 8. AB #19,609 - ENVISION CARLSBAD CITIZENS COMMITTEE. To consider creating the Envision Carlsbad Citizens Committee and appointing members to said committee. Resolution No. 2008-288. ACTION: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve 8. AB #19,609 - ENVISION CARLSBAD CITIZENS COMMITTEE. To consider creating the Envision Carlsbad Citizens Committee and appointing members to said committee. Resolution No. 2008-288. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:53:10)
Recess at 6:47
Reconvened at 6:53
AB #19,609
9. AB #19,610 - REPORT ON NRG'S PROPOSED CARLSBAD ENERGY CENTER PROJECT. To receive an update from staff on the California Energy Commission's proceedings regarding NRG's proposal to construct a new power plant. ACTION:
NRG Update from Joe Garuba. Visual simulations.
Someone else spoke first. I didn't catch his name but he's an employee with glasses and goatee.
Recent activities, aug 2008 passed resolution to oppose the NRG project at it's currently proposed site. City doesn't mind the project just the location. The reso also stressed non coastal industrial should be located away from Coastal area. Citizens group formed but not by the city to study this topic.
NRG held open house for citizens to answer questions
Community efforts speaker's bureau contact with outside groups and website. City staff correspondence, 3rd set of data requests, letters to CEC ,NRG and SDGE, new site and visual simulations. staff concern about visual concern about the project, site constraints, projects planned will be impacted by this project at proposed sites, sent letter to sdge regarding a switch station. Non coastal dependant use should go elsewhere.
city hired professional visual simulations, graphics shows future project
graphics company also prepared a site plan overlay of current aerial photos. relocations of switch yard also shown on graph.
cal trans plans to widen I-5 will also be problematic. Cal trans ROW will be problem for new power plant.
With the widening, burm and trees removed making the power plant more visible from the freeway.
Long planned carlsbad vista sewer interceptor plan also could be a problem if they go ahead with the power plant as planned.
Coastal rail trail, lift station part of upgrade for interceptor. This is not info provided to CEC, they were told about 2 1/2 years ago but they reiterated this information to CEC.
Visual simulations, power plant old one not being removed at this time. Burms and tree removal from widening will expose the power plant to traffic
Upcoming events, the city will be sending out jmailer to residents and property owers with the visual. postcard provided for people to send info to CEC. NRG and City attending CEC to provide information. Event held at Faraday city organized november 6th. CEC will be available to update citizens on project.
primary events, draft priliminary, sept 2007 anticipated, staff access would be heard by CEC. will not take place in 11-2008 or 1-2009. delays other major events in CEC project schedule. Decision anticipated in 2010. Questions
Kulchin, odonnell is the guy. How was that committee forms, the group that formed of citizens. How was that visual done? Actual? ODonnell said yes it's acurate. Hall, regarding pictures of widening, I5, west, ribbon around site? Is that the depression? 21 feet down, the grew lines are the road getting down to it. Questions from certain slides lite grey under ground. elevation of 21 feet. Height of the road, looking into the workings of the power plant. From the freeway you'll see into the turbines, etc.
Garuba, unknown is CAL TRans and their retaining walls, waiting for Cal Trans to show what their widening will change the current landscaping, etc. Sound walls for freeway noise and power plant.
Garuba, the walls or other structures required for noise will open another set of issues. Packard, is the relocation of the transfer station part of the proposed package to the CEC. Garuba-switch yard was included in their latest supplement to CEC. Some steps for SDGE to get it approved. The rest of that answer from NRG. PAckard, again, nov. 6, 2008 public workshop hosted by the city, CEC large time gaps in their meeting schedule, this will give citizens chance to stay informed.
Keep the citizens involved and informed. CEC there to anser questions. WHat kind of questions can they answer at this time? Garuba, this process is different than we've seen in the past. CEC to explain process to people, timeframes, how to be engages, Packard can they answer any technical questions ie noise mitigation? Garuba said no.
Nygaard, switch yard, existing power plant, when will it be decommissioned. That adds to visual impact. Odonnel, no date set.
Issue hasnot been raised by CEC? Garuba said not specifically because of environmental issues will need some mitigation. Rule 16B technical rulling. Requirements and cost for this plant and other power plants, the useful life of these plants is drawing near.
Mayor, talk about plant has it's one facility ??? didn't hear him. Same process as poseidon, working for a long time to get through all the agencies. Garuba they go through CEC which has supremacy. Still need to go through regional board for water issue but don't need coastal permit. Might need to amend their agreement.
Mayor everyone else goes through regular process. CEC has jurisdiction. Different needs so they can go through the approval process differently. Ron Ball coastal comm should be issuing report, we requested that. even if we don't need coastal comm permit we want to see that report.
Mayor question about elevation visual simulation. The city has limited control, CEC will determine the outcome. The old plant will be out based on many factors, grid in california. CEC SDGE all these have say and PUC, alot of ISO needs to approve the old plant retire. Could be TEN years? Garuba said could be there that long or longer.
Can this plant be expanded? Garuba said ask NRG but they've heard they could expand for one more unit.
Kulchin in reference to comment Power of Vision committee
Julie Baker, citizens group formed for purpose of relocating plant off coastal site as long as ocean water no longer needed to cool the plant. Land use for citizens and residents of north county. Want that site moved east. Kulchin asked how to get involved, website powerofvisioncarlsbad.com to get involved and inform and educate carlsbad residents.
Mayor asked NRG invited to your meetings? Julie said yes absolutely.
AB #19,610
PUBLIC COMMENT: Continuation of the Public Comments (if necessary) The remainder of the categories are for reporting purposes. In conformance with the Brown Act, no public testimony and no Council action can occur on these items.
Consent calendar discussion: item #1: cell site spoke in support of fire department master plan.
2 years ago started asking for study to verify what fire chief has already been asking for. Would prove the personal to be correct.
City spent money on prop d and meetings and communications and information. But couldn't pay for fire study? The lands aren't even owned by the City.
Item #2 final map for bressi ranch
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, spoke in support of a fire department master plan. Still waiting for it. Buildings have priority over our safety? Fire department has not grown with the City? Why are we so ignored?
Item #3 summary to vacate , Michele Levy, spoke in support of Fire Department Master Plan.
Another week and nothing done. On manager's desk since August. Can we see it on the agenda next week?
Motion to approve PUBLIC COMMENT: Continuation of the Public Comments (if necessary) The remainder of the categories are for reporting purposes. In conformance with the Brown Act, no public testimony and no Council action can occur on these items. Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve PUBLIC COMMENT: Continuation of the Public Comments (if necessary) The remainder of the categories are for reporting purposes. In conformance with the Brown Act, no public testimony and no Council action can occur on these items. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:39:27)
consent calendar approved 5/0
different views have been tolerated, debate but civil debate. Carlsbad already this silly season has seen some change to that. Respecting other people on differing views. Those who demand tolerance are not reciprocating that.
Nothing. Clerk has announcements
adjourned at 7:37
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