Video index
CALL TO ORDER: 6:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Roll call (5 Present, 0 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:03:20)
LEGISLATIVE INVOCATION:
By Pastor Krueger
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
By Council Member Kulchin
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:06:14)
Minutes of the Joint Special Meeting held October 7, 2008.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held October 7, 2008.
Minutes of the Special Meeting held October 14, 2008.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held October 14, 2008.
Minutes of the Special Meeting held October 15, 2008.
PRESENTATION:
Proclamation Presentation in Recognition of National Hospice Month.
Council member stepped down from the dais to present a Proclamation.
Mayor Lewis presented a Proclamation to Le Any Ingels in recognition of National Hospice Month (31st consecutive year) November is National Hospice Month.
Ms. Ingels thanked Council for the Proclamation.
Photos now by Mr. Richmond.
CONSENT CALENDAR: The items listed under Consent Calendar are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion as listed. There will be no separate discussion on these items prior to the vote, unless an item is removed.
To be heard at the end of the meeting.
WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: This is a motion to waive the reading of the text of all ordinances and resolutions at this meeting.
ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION:
6. AB #19,626 - ESTABLISH PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON THE CROSSINGS DRIVE. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by the addition of Section 10.44.860 to establish a 40 mile per hour prima facie speed limit on The Crossings Drive from Palomar Airport Road to its northerly terminus. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-014. ACTION:
City Attorney Ron Ball titled the Ordinance.
Motion to approve 6. AB #19,626 - ESTABLISH PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON THE CROSSINGS DRIVE. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by the addition of Section 10.44.860 to establish a 40 mile per hour prima facie speed limit on The Crossings Drive from Palomar Airport Road to its northerly terminus. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-014. ACTION: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve 6. AB #19,626 - ESTABLISH PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON THE CROSSINGS DRIVE. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by the addition of Section 10.44.860 to establish a 40 mile per hour prima facie speed limit on The Crossings Drive from Palomar Airport Road to its northerly terminus. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-014. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:13:18)
AB #19,626
PUBLIC COMMENT: In conformance with the Brown Act, no Council action can occur on items presented during Public Comment. A total of 15 minutes is provided so members of the public can address the Council on items that are not listed on the Agenda. Speakers are limited to three (3) minutes each. If you desire to speak during Public Comment, fill out a SPEAKER CARD and place it in the clear tray on the wall adjacent to the Deputy City Clerk. If there are more than five (5) speakers, the remaining speakers will be heard at the end of the agenda just prior to Council Reports. When you are called to speak, please come forward and state your name and address.
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Ms. Levy expressed concerns relating to the $16 million spent on the Farmers building.
Tracy Carmichael, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Spoke about change. Asking that Council consider the Power Plant issue - largest piece of property still owned. Asking Council to re-locate or get rid of Power Plant. Do we really need that plant. In the full scope of CA a small part of the plant is being used today. Consider the green gas effects on the community. Also spoke about noise issue associated with freeway widening. Have been a good regional player. Would like Carlsbad to consider giving the plant to another community that wants it.
Hope Wrisley, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Ms. Wrisley spoke about the NRG issue. Remember the Coastal Commission. Expressed concerns relating to the Coastal Commission regulations.
Coastal Commission does not have time write the report on the NRG Plant.
Many ways to do this that will be less polluting. Would like to ask the people to attend the City's informational session at Faraday at 5:30 p.m. Faraday. www.visionofpowercarlsbad.com
PUBLIC HEARING:
7. AB #19,627 - DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND PLANNED LOCAL DRAINAGE AREA FEE PROGRAM. This item is continued from the Council Meetings held on August 5, & September 9, 2008. To consider amending Title 15, Chapter 15.08 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, updating the Planned Local Drainage Area Fee Program, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (MCA 07-01); and, To consider amending Title 21, Chapters 21,38, 21.203 and 21.205 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by deleting references to the Master Drainage Plan adopted in 1994 and the Model Erosion Control Ordinance, and by the addition of references to the Proposed Drainage Master Plan and existing Engineering Standards, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (ZCA 07-04); and, To consider approving the 2008 Drainage Master Plan and approving a change to the City’s Planned Local Drainage Area Fee, Capital Improvement Project No. 3872. Introduction of Ordinance Nos. CS-004 and CS-005. Resolution No. 2008-230. ACTION:
Mayor Lewis announced that this is a continued Public Hearing. Ron Ball announced that the notice PH took place on August 5, 2008. PH was continued to September 9, 2008, then continued again to a date uncertain. A lot of new information entered into record. Council has received that and studied the information. Advise is to be re-opened to review only new items that have been submitted into the record from August 5, 2008. Advise ask for any member of the Public to address the new items of information presented by the staff.
L.Hildabrand introduced staff.
Associate Engineer Steve Jantz, Deputy City Engineer David Hauser and Public Works Director Glenn Pruim presented the staff report and reviewed a PowerPoint Presentation (on file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Reviewed action taken at the August 5, 2008 Council Meeting.
Council Actions on August 5: Conducted a PH and Certified the EIR and LCP Amendment.
Synopsis of tonights events - Intruduce revised MC Amendments
Reviewing the Drainage Master Plan again.
Plan recommends 34 Drainage Master Plan Projects. Cost brekdwon by each of the four basins.
Project Funding - planned local drainage area fee program - development paid fee program collected at the recordation of the final map. Collected into two categories based on run off now. Recommending that it be broken into three categories.
Reviewed how fee is computed: Facility Cost / Current PLDA Fund Balances / Billable Acres
Showed how fees are calculated. PLDA Area A - large increase in the fee - approximately $2 million improvements need to be built.
Explained how plan will be implemented based on future development.
In looking at 1994 DMP - 85% of development has already been built - built and paid for 87% in Area D. The new fees should be charged for facilities that have not been built yet.
Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan - is a planning level document. Noting that any projects are not guaranteed for construction. Project scope and need and purpose of project will be determined at a later date. New ideas may be utilized and analyzed as construction is proposed. The funding mechanism is payed by developers at recordation of the Final Map. Strictly on undeveloped land.
Nygaard - with regard to PLDA D - the reason the fee was so small - facilities were constructed w/development. Can this happen in future and reduce proposed fee?
Jantz - proposing that fee is charged. Developer can request a reimbursement after facility is constructed if funds available.
Hall - what if a project is estimated at $1 and comes in at $3? How do they get compensated.
Jantz - staff would return Council with recommendation. Now can only reimburse for what was estimated for the cost of the facility.
Hauser - Ord. is written to allow the developer can request a revision to Master DRainage Plan which may allow for additional reimbursement.
Hall confirmed that mechnaism will exist that will allow for developer to apply for additional reimbursement.
Hall - Drainage Area D - developer paid the costs. Yes, said Hauser.
Lewis - DRainage ARea A - if a developer can come in with proposal that is under what is estimated, would we reimburse them. Hauser if cost of facility is less, the developer would ask for revisions to DMP to the fee. Council could revise the program and issue a reimbursement. Listen to Pruim here.
Jantz - now reviewing comments that were received on August 5, 2008.
Low Impact Development - Scott Molloy of the BIA - requested that expand administrative procedures to include LID (LID) / Delay implementation of PLDA fee increase / Collect PLDA fee at escrow or Certificate of Occupancy. No changes for last two items per staff. Staff recommending an inclusion for an additional variance for the first item though resulting from BIA's request.
Explained the high, medium, low run off impacts.
PLDA Fees for Existing Development - by Jay Tarrington of Westfield - Using mall as example. Westfield is considering an addition to the mall. Since no additional storm water being added to the system. Staff is recommending two additional exemptions, - 1st one is for projects that do not increase the impervious surface are by 50% or more and which do not contribute to any increase in the 100 year runoff value to any required planned local drainage area improvement located downstream of the proposed project. 2nd. Projects involving remodels or additions that do not increase the building footprint by five hundred square feet. Recommendation: Include proposed additional exemptions in CMC Chapterr 15. 08
Watershed Management and Planning; Include provisions to better integrate watershed management planning principles. Create a more sustainable equilibruuim for local streams. More natural and less a controlled typical flood control project. Staff agrees with Preserve Calavera and North County Watershed Management.
Staff is recommending addition of 6.3 to Drainage Master Plan. Look at slides for exact wording of recommendations.
Staff is stating that a typographical error exists in Ord. CS-004 - look at slide for this.
Nygaard - impact within Westfield - how can this change also impact a piece of property in the village.
Jantz - explained that if footprint does not increase impervious area and does not have more run off will not be subject to fee.
Glenn Pruim now - reviewed the Rancho Carlsbad comments on August 5, 2008.
Pruim - the detention Basin BJ is in the DMP and funding is in the PLDA Fee program.
Gave an overview of the history of Basin BJ
Spoke about study by Chang - look at slide for pertinent fact regarding Change report.
December of 1996 - DMP Amendment. Requested by Rancho Carlsbad residents. Result - Added Facility BMA
In 1997 Council approved conversion of conversion.
College Boulevard Dedication - Dedicated to City by RCOA on Parcel Map.
In March 1998 - contract to Secure Improvements between City and RCOA - Secured payment of $318,000
June in 1998 - Rick Engineering Hydrology Study - Commissioned by City. Assumed that Calvera Dam outlet works was inoperable at time. Situation has since been remedied. Rick - recommended four retention basins. Agua Hedionda and Calavera Creek Channel Improvements.
Showed aerial photo of Basins and neighborhoods.
Showed facilities that have yet to be constructed.
A letter to Sue Loftin from Staff dated December 19, 2001. Staff commitment to pursue the goal of crafting a plan to work with Rancho Carlsbad.
In 2002 - Owner of Calavera Hills Phase II Project shall cause owner to enter into a purchase option agreement. Three way option between City, McMillin and Rancho Carlsbad.
In 2004 - Study by Robertson Ranch (MCMillin) hired Chang to co hydrology study. Some assumptions were made. Staff concurred with that report at that time.
In December 2004 - Council approved Cantarini Ranch / Holly Springs Project. The financing for the required drainage facilities shall be borne by developers.
Condition No. 46 - contained developer shall provide for the relocation of the existing Rancho Carlsbad RV . . . . Condition NO. 55 Developer shall construct Basin BJ.
In October 2005 - Chang Consultants Basin BJ Hydrology Study. Commissioned by McMillin. - Assumeds: Construction of 84" Storm Drain. Operable Lake Calavera outlet works. Lowering of Lake Calavera in advance of storm event. Concludes: Removal of Basin BJ will not cause additional impacts on insurable structures withing the Rancho Carlsbad Community.
In November 2005 - Rancho Carlsbad - Hired David Cannon to provide study.
June 2008 - City hired Brown and Caldwell to do a Hydrology Study. Subcontracted to Chang Consultants. Result - dredge and improvement of channels; existing constructed retention basins; no basin BJ. Concludes nearly RCOA properties out of Flood Zone (<9). Application is pending. FEMA is recognized experts. Reports have been submitted and are currently working with FEMA.
Showed breakdown of costs of improvements.
At meeting on August 5, 2008. Rancho Carlsbad asked for a lot of things. They want to find that BAsin BJ is required and relocation is provided for.
Bentley - also asking that Basin be found as required. Wants to ensure BAsin BJ and College Blvd. bridge.
City Responses to RCOA and BenteQ Concerns: Basin BJ to be included as a PLDA faciltiy within DRainage Master Plan. / Basin BJ construction costs are included in the PLDA fee program ; RCOA property
Now reviewing Council recommendations. End of staff presentation now.
Lewis - on Cantarini / Holly Springs - developer in Zone 15 - asked him a question regarding cost factor. The City will reimburse for any construction that takes place? Lewis - may not necessarily will.
BenteQ - responsible for improvments for Rancho Carlsbad. Pruim Confirmed that conditions exist, however no wording that WILL be reimbursed.
Lewis - he signed off on this? Pruim - this is correct.
Hall - spoke about correspondence from Loftin. Pruim - cursery does not look like any new items.
Packard - conditions on Benteq No. 55 are consistent with any other developer and project. Pruim - these conditions are not a typical. Packard - are consistent
Nygaard - flood condition put on condo conversion who and why?
Pruim - to dedicate row for creeks and roadways and maintenace. Standard condition if City is going to do maintenance.
Those ROW for two flood control channels.
Rancho Carlsbad Representative - Barbara Bevis, President of Rancho Owners association - representing 504 owners. You have addressed the issues? What has taken so long to address the issues. Ms. Bevis can accept this. Why wasn't this told to them in the past two years. Why did we have to wait until tonight.
Lewis - your leadership before you - the first time I heard about it was when we met with Ms. Hildabrand. Surprised that you are saying you didn't know about this.
Maybe opened the PH at 7:15 p.m.
Bill Arnold, Carlsbad, Mr. Pruim did not mention 2004 Rick Study. The early Rick study of 2004 was flawed.
We knew nothing of this last Chang Study as sub contractor.
Waited all this time for an answer.
Extraction of ROW for the road. We are not developers. That is the ROW for College Boulevard. The other three basins are owned by developers. No charge for the land - no money for our land. Raised issue with R.Ball - why isn't this paid out of drainage fees. Per Ball - no nexus to have future developers to pay for faciltiy.
BenteQ - violation of nexus principle. Do we have any guarantee that the basin will be built.
Want the basin - disagree with Chang Study.
Maybe we need study now. Want the basin. Still willing to swap the land. The land hope to use is not feasible.
Lewis - you were told to expend the $300,000 funds. Sue can answer that.
Sue Loftin, representing Rancho Carlsbad Association, response to Lewis, Rancho Carlsbad had obligations to do study and prepare maps to facilitate study.
All along the Rancho Carlsbad Association were under the impression that would be moving forward and will be working out financing program. This started with Chang 2005 study saying basin not required.
We are thrilled that the basin is part of the DMP and recognized as necessary facility. My clients live on the ground.
The developer that was building the facilities owned the land, in this case we have a developer that owns other land - now being conditioned to build facility on Rancho Carlsbad property. We have gone over Cantarini / HOlly Springs conditions - what happens if an agreement can not be reached between developer and Rancho Carlsbad. Rancho was comfortable with Option Agreement. Rancho has no protections in these conditions. Want to insure that their is a mechanism to pay for the facility.
We would like to request that fee for Rancho Carlsbad to 2.5 million from $500,000. This project is not consistent with all elements of other projects in the Master Plan.
Would like all documents submitted to City - and would like to incoroporate other documents - the City Drainage Master Plan - Listen to all of this. Listen to all of this and list them in the Minutes. September 4th Chang Consultants to Robertson Ranch. 2004 LFMP Zone 15. 2000 Rick Engineering Study, PC Resolution. Chang Resolution Study. Brown and Coldfield Report.
Disagree with conclusion.
Lewis - Rancho in partnership with Cantarini / holly springs. Rancho found that dealing with Mr. Millich was difficult. The $2.5 million does not include modernizing facility. Entered into option agreement for 3.8 acres of lot four. This is a joint venture per Ms. Loftin.
Mr. Arnold was referring to the time of extraction for the highway and storm drains - were not developers at that time. When did the become interested in developing? Per Loftin - after 2004 to 2005.
Kuclhin - didn't we already provide all of those papers asked Ms. Kulchin for Ball.
Loftin - I did get all of those documents listed. They have everything we have.
Close PH at 7:36 p.m.
Recess at 7:36 p.m.
Reconvene at 7:43 p.m.
PH still open.
Diane Nygaard, representing Preserve Calavera, thanked staff for recognizing integrating the storm water elements with the rest of the water shed. Urging Council to approve modifications to the Master Drainage Plan.
Close PH at 7:45 p.m.
Hall - a lot stated tonight - from this point forward and understanding the complexity of Zone 15 - what do the residents for Rancho Carlsbad go forward - what will trigger the building of facilities.
Pruim - what I would guess - a developer in Zone 15 submitting plans will have to show how they will handle drainage across College Boulevard. Staff will then make recommendations. If the develoepr is Cantarini (David Bentley),
Pruim - College Avenue will be the trigger for detailed engineering studies.
Lewis - the President expressed some frustration about not knowing what is going on. Through Attorneys or staff that President is not informed of what is going on.
Lets make sure that this does happen!.
Nygaard - Ms. Loftin spoke about the aquisitiona and relocation in the DMP.
Ball - the issue is what developer fees can be supported by what is in the DMP. YOu cannot waive a wand and get a couple of millions. Maybe a future report will support the basis for increasing the fees from $500,000 to $2.5 million.
Only those portions that can be paid for by developers will be paid by impact fees and spread through the fee mechanism.
Nygaard - is that why City looked for an alternative mechansism to be for the facilities? Per Ball - is in line with what has been done before.
Per Ball - the Basin BJ is owned by the private properties. The developer is required by the condition to acquire that property.
Nygaard - a vehicle exists to ensure just compensation for property.
Hall - the nexus for Cantarini / Holly Springs and Bentley? Conditions?
Ball - there was a nexus for the conditions and Mr. Bentley agreed. If he was to dispute conditions - long since passed.
Developer could return to PC and CC to ask for change in conditions.
Lewis - I believe that Ms. Loftin mentioned possibility of suit against the City.
Lewis - is this better to go through CA rather than staff. The law imposes short statute of limitations. Only 90 days. Staff to not meet unless CA involved.
Nygaard - has taken a long time to evaluate all of these things. Question before Council is the Drainage Master Plan. Thanked staff for thorough job. Proposed changes are good ones. The preserve carlsbad holistic approach will help us to move forward. BJ Basin and funding is included and the way to fund the land acquisition and relocation is included under the developer extraction.
Staff has done a good job. Prepared tomove forward.
Packard - concur with Ms. Nygaards Comments.
Also thanked staff for reconsidering some of the other basins and other issues. Appreciate staff's diligence for working through issues. Staff has been able to come to a fair resolution.
Hall - most energy around a specific site (Zone 15). This is going to be a difficult Zone to build out. Hope to work together. The fees based on what has been given - fees are honest and fair. I hope we can do it jointly.
Kulchin - nothing to add. Lewis also concurs.
Main thing is to make sure we continue to communicate.
Motion to approve 7. AB #19,627 - DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND PLANNED LOCAL DRAINAGE AREA FEE PROGRAM. This item is continued from the Council Meetings held on August 5, & September 9, 2008. To consider amending Title 15, Chapter 15.08 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, updating the Planned Local Drainage Area Fee Program, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (MCA 07-01); and, To consider amending Title 21, Chapters 21,38, 21.203 and 21.205 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by deleting references to the Master Drainage Plan adopted in 1994 and the Model Erosion Control Ordinance, and by the addition of references to the Proposed Drainage Master Plan and existing Engineering Standards, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (ZCA 07-04); and, To consider approving the 2008 Drainage Master Plan and approving a change to the City’s Planned Local Drainage Area Fee, Capital Improvement Project No. 3872. Introduction of Ordinance Nos. CS-004 and CS-005. Resolution No. 2008-230. ACTION: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve 7. AB #19,627 - DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND PLANNED LOCAL DRAINAGE AREA FEE PROGRAM. This item is continued from the Council Meetings held on August 5, & September 9, 2008. To consider amending Title 15, Chapter 15.08 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, updating the Planned Local Drainage Area Fee Program, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (MCA 07-01); and, To consider amending Title 21, Chapters 21,38, 21.203 and 21.205 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by deleting references to the Master Drainage Plan adopted in 1994 and the Model Erosion Control Ordinance, and by the addition of references to the Proposed Drainage Master Plan and existing Engineering Standards, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (ZCA 07-04); and, To consider approving the 2008 Drainage Master Plan and approving a change to the City’s Planned Local Drainage Area Fee, Capital Improvement Project No. 3872. Introduction of Ordinance Nos. CS-004 and CS-005. Resolution No. 2008-230. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 02:05:09)
City Attorney Ron Ball titled the two Ordinances.
Break at 8:02 p.m.
Ms. Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council on Consent.
AB #19,627
1. AB #19,621 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the Upper and Lower Faraday Sewer Lift Station Removal Project as complete, and directing the City Clerk to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 55051. Resolution No. 2008-296. ACTION:
Ms. Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Spoke about fire department study. Would like to see item on the agenda.
AB #19,621
2. AB #19,622 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the FY 07/08 Concrete Replacement Project as complete, and directing the City Clerk to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 6013. Resolution No. 2008-297. ACTION:
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Spoke in support of development of Fire Department Master Plan.
AB #19,622
3. AB #19,623 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the Cynthia Lane Storm Drain Improvements as complete, and directing the City Clerk to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 6601. Resolution No. 2008-298. ACTION:
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Asked CM for study - where is it?
AB #19,623
4. AB #19,624 - SUMMARY VACATION OF EASEMENT. Summarily vacating a portion of a slope easement along Poinsettia Lane over a portion of Lot 14 of Map No. 14625, PR 08-39. Resolution No. 2008-299. ACTION:
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, spoke in support of the development of Fire Department Master Plan for increased population in Carlsbad. Have been asking for plan for two years.
Where is the study of the fire department?
AB #19,624
5. AB #19,625 - APPROVE FINAL MAP FOR LA COSTA GREENS, NEIGHBORHOOD 1.3. Approving the Final Map for La Costa Greens, Neighborhood 1.3, and authorizing the Final Map to be recorded, CT 07-05. Resolution No. 2008-300. ACTION:
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Ms. Levy inquired as to the location of the study of the Fire Department Master Plan.
Motion to approve 5. AB #19,625 - APPROVE FINAL MAP FOR LA COSTA GREENS, NEIGHBORHOOD 1.3. Approving the Final Map for La Costa Greens, Neighborhood 1.3, and authorizing the Final Map to be recorded, CT 07-05. Resolution No. 2008-300. ACTION: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve 5. AB #19,625 - APPROVE FINAL MAP FOR LA COSTA GREENS, NEIGHBORHOOD 1.3. Approving the Final Map for La Costa Greens, Neighborhood 1.3, and authorizing the Final Map to be recorded, CT 07-05. Resolution No. 2008-300. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 02:14:59)
AB #19,625
PUBLIC COMMENT: Continuation of the Public Comments (if necessary) The remainder of the categories are for reporting purposes. In conformance with the Brown Act, no public testimony and no Council action can occur on these items.
Nygaard - no reports. Packard - Encina Report.
Clerk - Announcement.
Adjourn at 8:14 p.m.
Nov 04, 2008 City Council Meeting
Full agenda
Share this video
Video Index
Full agenda
Share
CALL TO ORDER: 6:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
Roll call (5 Present, 0 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:03:20)
LEGISLATIVE INVOCATION:
By Pastor Krueger
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
By Council Member Kulchin
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:06:14)
Minutes of the Joint Special Meeting held October 7, 2008.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held October 7, 2008.
Minutes of the Special Meeting held October 14, 2008.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting held October 14, 2008.
Minutes of the Special Meeting held October 15, 2008.
PRESENTATION:
Proclamation Presentation in Recognition of National Hospice Month.
Council member stepped down from the dais to present a Proclamation.
Mayor Lewis presented a Proclamation to Le Any Ingels in recognition of National Hospice Month (31st consecutive year) November is National Hospice Month.
Ms. Ingels thanked Council for the Proclamation.
Photos now by Mr. Richmond.
CONSENT CALENDAR: The items listed under Consent Calendar are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion as listed. There will be no separate discussion on these items prior to the vote, unless an item is removed.
To be heard at the end of the meeting.
WAIVER OF ORDINANCE TEXT READING: This is a motion to waive the reading of the text of all ordinances and resolutions at this meeting.
ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION:
6. AB #19,626 - ESTABLISH PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON THE CROSSINGS DRIVE. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by the addition of Section 10.44.860 to establish a 40 mile per hour prima facie speed limit on The Crossings Drive from Palomar Airport Road to its northerly terminus. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-014. ACTION:
City Attorney Ron Ball titled the Ordinance.
Motion to approve 6. AB #19,626 - ESTABLISH PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON THE CROSSINGS DRIVE. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by the addition of Section 10.44.860 to establish a 40 mile per hour prima facie speed limit on The Crossings Drive from Palomar Airport Road to its northerly terminus. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-014. ACTION: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve 6. AB #19,626 - ESTABLISH PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT ON THE CROSSINGS DRIVE. To consider amending Title 10, Chapter 10.44 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by the addition of Section 10.44.860 to establish a 40 mile per hour prima facie speed limit on The Crossings Drive from Palomar Airport Road to its northerly terminus. Introduction of Ordinance No. CS-014. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 00:13:18)
AB #19,626
PUBLIC COMMENT: In conformance with the Brown Act, no Council action can occur on items presented during Public Comment. A total of 15 minutes is provided so members of the public can address the Council on items that are not listed on the Agenda. Speakers are limited to three (3) minutes each. If you desire to speak during Public Comment, fill out a SPEAKER CARD and place it in the clear tray on the wall adjacent to the Deputy City Clerk. If there are more than five (5) speakers, the remaining speakers will be heard at the end of the agenda just prior to Council Reports. When you are called to speak, please come forward and state your name and address.
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Ms. Levy expressed concerns relating to the $16 million spent on the Farmers building.
Tracy Carmichael, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Spoke about change. Asking that Council consider the Power Plant issue - largest piece of property still owned. Asking Council to re-locate or get rid of Power Plant. Do we really need that plant. In the full scope of CA a small part of the plant is being used today. Consider the green gas effects on the community. Also spoke about noise issue associated with freeway widening. Have been a good regional player. Would like Carlsbad to consider giving the plant to another community that wants it.
Hope Wrisley, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Ms. Wrisley spoke about the NRG issue. Remember the Coastal Commission. Expressed concerns relating to the Coastal Commission regulations.
Coastal Commission does not have time write the report on the NRG Plant.
Many ways to do this that will be less polluting. Would like to ask the people to attend the City's informational session at Faraday at 5:30 p.m. Faraday. www.visionofpowercarlsbad.com
PUBLIC HEARING:
7. AB #19,627 - DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND PLANNED LOCAL DRAINAGE AREA FEE PROGRAM. This item is continued from the Council Meetings held on August 5, & September 9, 2008. To consider amending Title 15, Chapter 15.08 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, updating the Planned Local Drainage Area Fee Program, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (MCA 07-01); and, To consider amending Title 21, Chapters 21,38, 21.203 and 21.205 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by deleting references to the Master Drainage Plan adopted in 1994 and the Model Erosion Control Ordinance, and by the addition of references to the Proposed Drainage Master Plan and existing Engineering Standards, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (ZCA 07-04); and, To consider approving the 2008 Drainage Master Plan and approving a change to the City’s Planned Local Drainage Area Fee, Capital Improvement Project No. 3872. Introduction of Ordinance Nos. CS-004 and CS-005. Resolution No. 2008-230. ACTION:
Mayor Lewis announced that this is a continued Public Hearing. Ron Ball announced that the notice PH took place on August 5, 2008. PH was continued to September 9, 2008, then continued again to a date uncertain. A lot of new information entered into record. Council has received that and studied the information. Advise is to be re-opened to review only new items that have been submitted into the record from August 5, 2008. Advise ask for any member of the Public to address the new items of information presented by the staff.
L.Hildabrand introduced staff.
Associate Engineer Steve Jantz, Deputy City Engineer David Hauser and Public Works Director Glenn Pruim presented the staff report and reviewed a PowerPoint Presentation (on file in the Office of the City Clerk).
Reviewed action taken at the August 5, 2008 Council Meeting.
Council Actions on August 5: Conducted a PH and Certified the EIR and LCP Amendment.
Synopsis of tonights events - Intruduce revised MC Amendments
Reviewing the Drainage Master Plan again.
Plan recommends 34 Drainage Master Plan Projects. Cost brekdwon by each of the four basins.
Project Funding - planned local drainage area fee program - development paid fee program collected at the recordation of the final map. Collected into two categories based on run off now. Recommending that it be broken into three categories.
Reviewed how fee is computed: Facility Cost / Current PLDA Fund Balances / Billable Acres
Showed how fees are calculated. PLDA Area A - large increase in the fee - approximately $2 million improvements need to be built.
Explained how plan will be implemented based on future development.
In looking at 1994 DMP - 85% of development has already been built - built and paid for 87% in Area D. The new fees should be charged for facilities that have not been built yet.
Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan - is a planning level document. Noting that any projects are not guaranteed for construction. Project scope and need and purpose of project will be determined at a later date. New ideas may be utilized and analyzed as construction is proposed. The funding mechanism is payed by developers at recordation of the Final Map. Strictly on undeveloped land.
Nygaard - with regard to PLDA D - the reason the fee was so small - facilities were constructed w/development. Can this happen in future and reduce proposed fee?
Jantz - proposing that fee is charged. Developer can request a reimbursement after facility is constructed if funds available.
Hall - what if a project is estimated at $1 and comes in at $3? How do they get compensated.
Jantz - staff would return Council with recommendation. Now can only reimburse for what was estimated for the cost of the facility.
Hauser - Ord. is written to allow the developer can request a revision to Master DRainage Plan which may allow for additional reimbursement.
Hall confirmed that mechnaism will exist that will allow for developer to apply for additional reimbursement.
Hall - Drainage Area D - developer paid the costs. Yes, said Hauser.
Lewis - DRainage ARea A - if a developer can come in with proposal that is under what is estimated, would we reimburse them. Hauser if cost of facility is less, the developer would ask for revisions to DMP to the fee. Council could revise the program and issue a reimbursement. Listen to Pruim here.
Jantz - now reviewing comments that were received on August 5, 2008.
Low Impact Development - Scott Molloy of the BIA - requested that expand administrative procedures to include LID (LID) / Delay implementation of PLDA fee increase / Collect PLDA fee at escrow or Certificate of Occupancy. No changes for last two items per staff. Staff recommending an inclusion for an additional variance for the first item though resulting from BIA's request.
Explained the high, medium, low run off impacts.
PLDA Fees for Existing Development - by Jay Tarrington of Westfield - Using mall as example. Westfield is considering an addition to the mall. Since no additional storm water being added to the system. Staff is recommending two additional exemptions, - 1st one is for projects that do not increase the impervious surface are by 50% or more and which do not contribute to any increase in the 100 year runoff value to any required planned local drainage area improvement located downstream of the proposed project. 2nd. Projects involving remodels or additions that do not increase the building footprint by five hundred square feet. Recommendation: Include proposed additional exemptions in CMC Chapterr 15. 08
Watershed Management and Planning; Include provisions to better integrate watershed management planning principles. Create a more sustainable equilibruuim for local streams. More natural and less a controlled typical flood control project. Staff agrees with Preserve Calavera and North County Watershed Management.
Staff is recommending addition of 6.3 to Drainage Master Plan. Look at slides for exact wording of recommendations.
Staff is stating that a typographical error exists in Ord. CS-004 - look at slide for this.
Nygaard - impact within Westfield - how can this change also impact a piece of property in the village.
Jantz - explained that if footprint does not increase impervious area and does not have more run off will not be subject to fee.
Glenn Pruim now - reviewed the Rancho Carlsbad comments on August 5, 2008.
Pruim - the detention Basin BJ is in the DMP and funding is in the PLDA Fee program.
Gave an overview of the history of Basin BJ
Spoke about study by Chang - look at slide for pertinent fact regarding Change report.
December of 1996 - DMP Amendment. Requested by Rancho Carlsbad residents. Result - Added Facility BMA
In 1997 Council approved conversion of conversion.
College Boulevard Dedication - Dedicated to City by RCOA on Parcel Map.
In March 1998 - contract to Secure Improvements between City and RCOA - Secured payment of $318,000
June in 1998 - Rick Engineering Hydrology Study - Commissioned by City. Assumed that Calvera Dam outlet works was inoperable at time. Situation has since been remedied. Rick - recommended four retention basins. Agua Hedionda and Calavera Creek Channel Improvements.
Showed aerial photo of Basins and neighborhoods.
Showed facilities that have yet to be constructed.
A letter to Sue Loftin from Staff dated December 19, 2001. Staff commitment to pursue the goal of crafting a plan to work with Rancho Carlsbad.
In 2002 - Owner of Calavera Hills Phase II Project shall cause owner to enter into a purchase option agreement. Three way option between City, McMillin and Rancho Carlsbad.
In 2004 - Study by Robertson Ranch (MCMillin) hired Chang to co hydrology study. Some assumptions were made. Staff concurred with that report at that time.
In December 2004 - Council approved Cantarini Ranch / Holly Springs Project. The financing for the required drainage facilities shall be borne by developers.
Condition No. 46 - contained developer shall provide for the relocation of the existing Rancho Carlsbad RV . . . . Condition NO. 55 Developer shall construct Basin BJ.
In October 2005 - Chang Consultants Basin BJ Hydrology Study. Commissioned by McMillin. - Assumeds: Construction of 84" Storm Drain. Operable Lake Calavera outlet works. Lowering of Lake Calavera in advance of storm event. Concludes: Removal of Basin BJ will not cause additional impacts on insurable structures withing the Rancho Carlsbad Community.
In November 2005 - Rancho Carlsbad - Hired David Cannon to provide study.
June 2008 - City hired Brown and Caldwell to do a Hydrology Study. Subcontracted to Chang Consultants. Result - dredge and improvement of channels; existing constructed retention basins; no basin BJ. Concludes nearly RCOA properties out of Flood Zone (<9). Application is pending. FEMA is recognized experts. Reports have been submitted and are currently working with FEMA.
Showed breakdown of costs of improvements.
At meeting on August 5, 2008. Rancho Carlsbad asked for a lot of things. They want to find that BAsin BJ is required and relocation is provided for.
Bentley - also asking that Basin be found as required. Wants to ensure BAsin BJ and College Blvd. bridge.
City Responses to RCOA and BenteQ Concerns: Basin BJ to be included as a PLDA faciltiy within DRainage Master Plan. / Basin BJ construction costs are included in the PLDA fee program ; RCOA property
Now reviewing Council recommendations. End of staff presentation now.
Lewis - on Cantarini / Holly Springs - developer in Zone 15 - asked him a question regarding cost factor. The City will reimburse for any construction that takes place? Lewis - may not necessarily will.
BenteQ - responsible for improvments for Rancho Carlsbad. Pruim Confirmed that conditions exist, however no wording that WILL be reimbursed.
Lewis - he signed off on this? Pruim - this is correct.
Hall - spoke about correspondence from Loftin. Pruim - cursery does not look like any new items.
Packard - conditions on Benteq No. 55 are consistent with any other developer and project. Pruim - these conditions are not a typical. Packard - are consistent
Nygaard - flood condition put on condo conversion who and why?
Pruim - to dedicate row for creeks and roadways and maintenace. Standard condition if City is going to do maintenance.
Those ROW for two flood control channels.
Rancho Carlsbad Representative - Barbara Bevis, President of Rancho Owners association - representing 504 owners. You have addressed the issues? What has taken so long to address the issues. Ms. Bevis can accept this. Why wasn't this told to them in the past two years. Why did we have to wait until tonight.
Lewis - your leadership before you - the first time I heard about it was when we met with Ms. Hildabrand. Surprised that you are saying you didn't know about this.
Maybe opened the PH at 7:15 p.m.
Bill Arnold, Carlsbad, Mr. Pruim did not mention 2004 Rick Study. The early Rick study of 2004 was flawed.
We knew nothing of this last Chang Study as sub contractor.
Waited all this time for an answer.
Extraction of ROW for the road. We are not developers. That is the ROW for College Boulevard. The other three basins are owned by developers. No charge for the land - no money for our land. Raised issue with R.Ball - why isn't this paid out of drainage fees. Per Ball - no nexus to have future developers to pay for faciltiy.
BenteQ - violation of nexus principle. Do we have any guarantee that the basin will be built.
Want the basin - disagree with Chang Study.
Maybe we need study now. Want the basin. Still willing to swap the land. The land hope to use is not feasible.
Lewis - you were told to expend the $300,000 funds. Sue can answer that.
Sue Loftin, representing Rancho Carlsbad Association, response to Lewis, Rancho Carlsbad had obligations to do study and prepare maps to facilitate study.
All along the Rancho Carlsbad Association were under the impression that would be moving forward and will be working out financing program. This started with Chang 2005 study saying basin not required.
We are thrilled that the basin is part of the DMP and recognized as necessary facility. My clients live on the ground.
The developer that was building the facilities owned the land, in this case we have a developer that owns other land - now being conditioned to build facility on Rancho Carlsbad property. We have gone over Cantarini / HOlly Springs conditions - what happens if an agreement can not be reached between developer and Rancho Carlsbad. Rancho was comfortable with Option Agreement. Rancho has no protections in these conditions. Want to insure that their is a mechanism to pay for the facility.
We would like to request that fee for Rancho Carlsbad to 2.5 million from $500,000. This project is not consistent with all elements of other projects in the Master Plan.
Would like all documents submitted to City - and would like to incoroporate other documents - the City Drainage Master Plan - Listen to all of this. Listen to all of this and list them in the Minutes. September 4th Chang Consultants to Robertson Ranch. 2004 LFMP Zone 15. 2000 Rick Engineering Study, PC Resolution. Chang Resolution Study. Brown and Coldfield Report.
Disagree with conclusion.
Lewis - Rancho in partnership with Cantarini / holly springs. Rancho found that dealing with Mr. Millich was difficult. The $2.5 million does not include modernizing facility. Entered into option agreement for 3.8 acres of lot four. This is a joint venture per Ms. Loftin.
Mr. Arnold was referring to the time of extraction for the highway and storm drains - were not developers at that time. When did the become interested in developing? Per Loftin - after 2004 to 2005.
Kuclhin - didn't we already provide all of those papers asked Ms. Kulchin for Ball.
Loftin - I did get all of those documents listed. They have everything we have.
Close PH at 7:36 p.m.
Recess at 7:36 p.m.
Reconvene at 7:43 p.m.
PH still open.
Diane Nygaard, representing Preserve Calavera, thanked staff for recognizing integrating the storm water elements with the rest of the water shed. Urging Council to approve modifications to the Master Drainage Plan.
Close PH at 7:45 p.m.
Hall - a lot stated tonight - from this point forward and understanding the complexity of Zone 15 - what do the residents for Rancho Carlsbad go forward - what will trigger the building of facilities.
Pruim - what I would guess - a developer in Zone 15 submitting plans will have to show how they will handle drainage across College Boulevard. Staff will then make recommendations. If the develoepr is Cantarini (David Bentley),
Pruim - College Avenue will be the trigger for detailed engineering studies.
Lewis - the President expressed some frustration about not knowing what is going on. Through Attorneys or staff that President is not informed of what is going on.
Lets make sure that this does happen!.
Nygaard - Ms. Loftin spoke about the aquisitiona and relocation in the DMP.
Ball - the issue is what developer fees can be supported by what is in the DMP. YOu cannot waive a wand and get a couple of millions. Maybe a future report will support the basis for increasing the fees from $500,000 to $2.5 million.
Only those portions that can be paid for by developers will be paid by impact fees and spread through the fee mechanism.
Nygaard - is that why City looked for an alternative mechansism to be for the facilities? Per Ball - is in line with what has been done before.
Per Ball - the Basin BJ is owned by the private properties. The developer is required by the condition to acquire that property.
Nygaard - a vehicle exists to ensure just compensation for property.
Hall - the nexus for Cantarini / Holly Springs and Bentley? Conditions?
Ball - there was a nexus for the conditions and Mr. Bentley agreed. If he was to dispute conditions - long since passed.
Developer could return to PC and CC to ask for change in conditions.
Lewis - I believe that Ms. Loftin mentioned possibility of suit against the City.
Lewis - is this better to go through CA rather than staff. The law imposes short statute of limitations. Only 90 days. Staff to not meet unless CA involved.
Nygaard - has taken a long time to evaluate all of these things. Question before Council is the Drainage Master Plan. Thanked staff for thorough job. Proposed changes are good ones. The preserve carlsbad holistic approach will help us to move forward. BJ Basin and funding is included and the way to fund the land acquisition and relocation is included under the developer extraction.
Staff has done a good job. Prepared tomove forward.
Packard - concur with Ms. Nygaards Comments.
Also thanked staff for reconsidering some of the other basins and other issues. Appreciate staff's diligence for working through issues. Staff has been able to come to a fair resolution.
Hall - most energy around a specific site (Zone 15). This is going to be a difficult Zone to build out. Hope to work together. The fees based on what has been given - fees are honest and fair. I hope we can do it jointly.
Kulchin - nothing to add. Lewis also concurs.
Main thing is to make sure we continue to communicate.
Motion to approve 7. AB #19,627 - DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND PLANNED LOCAL DRAINAGE AREA FEE PROGRAM. This item is continued from the Council Meetings held on August 5, & September 9, 2008. To consider amending Title 15, Chapter 15.08 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, updating the Planned Local Drainage Area Fee Program, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (MCA 07-01); and, To consider amending Title 21, Chapters 21,38, 21.203 and 21.205 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by deleting references to the Master Drainage Plan adopted in 1994 and the Model Erosion Control Ordinance, and by the addition of references to the Proposed Drainage Master Plan and existing Engineering Standards, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (ZCA 07-04); and, To consider approving the 2008 Drainage Master Plan and approving a change to the City’s Planned Local Drainage Area Fee, Capital Improvement Project No. 3872. Introduction of Ordinance Nos. CS-004 and CS-005. Resolution No. 2008-230. ACTION: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve 7. AB #19,627 - DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN AND PLANNED LOCAL DRAINAGE AREA FEE PROGRAM. This item is continued from the Council Meetings held on August 5, & September 9, 2008. To consider amending Title 15, Chapter 15.08 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, updating the Planned Local Drainage Area Fee Program, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (MCA 07-01); and, To consider amending Title 21, Chapters 21,38, 21.203 and 21.205 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code, by deleting references to the Master Drainage Plan adopted in 1994 and the Model Erosion Control Ordinance, and by the addition of references to the Proposed Drainage Master Plan and existing Engineering Standards, Carlsbad Drainage Master Plan (ZCA 07-04); and, To consider approving the 2008 Drainage Master Plan and approving a change to the City’s Planned Local Drainage Area Fee, Capital Improvement Project No. 3872. Introduction of Ordinance Nos. CS-004 and CS-005. Resolution No. 2008-230. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 02:05:09)
City Attorney Ron Ball titled the two Ordinances.
Break at 8:02 p.m.
Ms. Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council on Consent.
AB #19,627
1. AB #19,621 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the Upper and Lower Faraday Sewer Lift Station Removal Project as complete, and directing the City Clerk to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 55051. Resolution No. 2008-296. ACTION:
Ms. Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Spoke about fire department study. Would like to see item on the agenda.
AB #19,621
2. AB #19,622 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the FY 07/08 Concrete Replacement Project as complete, and directing the City Clerk to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 6013. Resolution No. 2008-297. ACTION:
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Spoke in support of development of Fire Department Master Plan.
AB #19,622
3. AB #19,623 - NOTICE OF COMPLETION. Accepting the construction of the Cynthia Lane Storm Drain Improvements as complete, and directing the City Clerk to record a Notice of Completion, Project No. 6601. Resolution No. 2008-298. ACTION:
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Asked CM for study - where is it?
AB #19,623
4. AB #19,624 - SUMMARY VACATION OF EASEMENT. Summarily vacating a portion of a slope easement along Poinsettia Lane over a portion of Lot 14 of Map No. 14625, PR 08-39. Resolution No. 2008-299. ACTION:
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, spoke in support of the development of Fire Department Master Plan for increased population in Carlsbad. Have been asking for plan for two years.
Where is the study of the fire department?
AB #19,624
5. AB #19,625 - APPROVE FINAL MAP FOR LA COSTA GREENS, NEIGHBORHOOD 1.3. Approving the Final Map for La Costa Greens, Neighborhood 1.3, and authorizing the Final Map to be recorded, CT 07-05. Resolution No. 2008-300. ACTION:
Michele Levy, Carlsbad, came forward to address Council. Ms. Levy inquired as to the location of the study of the Fire Department Master Plan.
Motion to approve 5. AB #19,625 - APPROVE FINAL MAP FOR LA COSTA GREENS, NEIGHBORHOOD 1.3. Approving the Final Map for La Costa Greens, Neighborhood 1.3, and authorizing the Final Map to be recorded, CT 07-05. Resolution No. 2008-300. ACTION: Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kulchin, seconded by Council Member Hall.
Vote to approve 5. AB #19,625 - APPROVE FINAL MAP FOR LA COSTA GREENS, NEIGHBORHOOD 1.3. Approving the Final Map for La Costa Greens, Neighborhood 1.3, and authorizing the Final Map to be recorded, CT 07-05. Resolution No. 2008-300. ACTION: (Approved) (Recorded at 02:14:59)
AB #19,625
PUBLIC COMMENT: Continuation of the Public Comments (if necessary) The remainder of the categories are for reporting purposes. In conformance with the Brown Act, no public testimony and no Council action can occur on these items.
Nygaard - no reports. Packard - Encina Report.
Clerk - Announcement.
Adjourn at 8:14 p.m.
Link
Start video at
Social
Embed
<iframe title="Swagit Video Player" width="640" height="360" src="https://carlsbadca.new.swagit.com/videos/126912/embed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Disable autoplay on embedded content?
Download
Download
Download Selected Item