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CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Roll call (8 Present, 1 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:05:46)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - September 19, 2007
Motion to to approve the minutes of the Regular Meeting of September 19, 2007 Moved by Commissioner Cardosa, seconded by .
Vote to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES - September 19, 2007 (Approved) (Recorded at 00:06:11)
PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING
1.
CUP 87-12x4 - FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF CARLSBAD
- Request for a retroactive extension and approval in perpetuity of CUP 87-12x4 to allow the continued operation of a church and operation of a daycare/preschool located at 3780 Pio Pico Drive in the Mello II Segment of the Local Coastal Program (LCP) and in Local Facilities Management Zone 1.
Resolution No. 6342
First Baptist Church Staff Report
Gary Barberio, Assistant Planning Director, introduced Item 1 and stated Planning Technician Chris Sexton would make the staff presentation.
Chairperson Baker opened the public hearing on Item 1.
Ms. Sexton gave a detailed presentation and stated she would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any questions of Staff.
Chairperson Baker inquired if the buildings were permanently installed with foundations. Ms. Sexton stated the buildings are on permanent foundations.
Commissioner Boddy asked if the project will be approved in perpetuity. Ms. Sexton stated that was correct.
Commissioner Dominguez inquired as to what makes this project different from the modulars on the site next door at St. Patrick’s School. Ms. Sexton stated she was not sure because that is a different project and she is unaware of that project’s history and background. Mr. Barberio gave an answer.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any further questions of staff. Seeing none, she asked the applicant if they wished to make a presentation.
Pastor Stan Gold, First Baptist Church of Carlsbad, gave a presentation and stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any questions of the applicant. Seeing none, she asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak on the item. Seeing none, she opened and closed public testimony on the item.
Commissioner Dominguez stated his concerns regarding approving the project in perpetuity.
Chairperson Baker concurred with Commissioner Dominguez.
Mr. Barberio discussed the Conditional Use Permit regulations that are currently in place. He asked for the Commission to determine what they would want to review in 5 or 10 years if a time limit was placed on the project. Chairperson Baker stated that she was not comfortable approving modular, temporary buildings in perpetuity. Commissioner Whitton stated that it was not fair to compare this project with St. Patrick’s which is next door.
Motion to that the Planning Commission ADOPT Planning Commission Resolution No. 6342 APPROVING a retroactive five year extension of CUP 87-12x3 based upon the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein. Moved by Commissioner Cardosa, seconded by .
Vote to free form that the Planning Commission ADOPT Planning Commission Resolution No. 6342 APPROVING a retroactive five year extension of CUP 87-12x3 based upon the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein. (Approved) (Recorded at 00:23:25)
2.
CT 04-26/PUD 06-12/PUD 06-13/PUD 06-14 - ROBERTSON RANCH PAs 16, 17 & 18 and SDP 06-06 - ROBERTSON RANCH PA 19
- Request for a determination that the projects are within the scope of the previously certified Robertson Ranch Master Plan Final Program EIR and that the Program EIR adequately describes the activities for the purposes of CEQA; a request for a recommendation of approval for a Tentative Tract Map and Planned Development Permits for Planning Areas 16, 17 and 18 for 304 residential lots, 5 recreation area lots and 22 HOA lots on 73.45 acres; and, a request for approval of a Site Development Plan to allow for the construction of a community recreation area on 2.02 acres within Planning Area 19. The projects are located within the East Village of the Robertson Ranch Master Plan located north of Cannon Road, west of College Boulevard, and east of future Wind Trail Way in Local Facilities Management Zone 14. Resolutions No. 6343, 6344, 6345, 6346, 6347
Robertson Ranch Planning Areas 16-19 Staff Report
Mr. Barberio introduced Item 2 and stated Associate Planner Barbara Kennedy would make the staff presentation assisted by Associate Engineer Jeremy Riddle.
Chairperson Baker opened the public hearing for Item 2.
Ms. Kennedy gave a detailed presentation and stated she would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Dominguez asked what the triggers will be for the Phase One Recreation Facility. Ms. Kennedy responded.
Commissioner Boddy asked for further clarification of the fire suppression zones. Ms. Kennedy directed the Commission’s attention to a slide and indicated the zones. Commissioner Boddy asked what the fire suppression zone looks like. Ms. Kennedy stated it is an HOA that has a thinning of the planting materials and it will be maintained by the HOA.
Commissioner Whitton inquired about the trees shown on the plan and if the residents would have the ability to remove them if desired. Ms. Kennedy directed the Commission’s attention to slide and indicated which trees could be removed by the HOA. Commissioner Whitton asked about residents planting trees in the neighboring residents’ views. Ms. Kennedy responded.
Commissioner Douglas asked about the phasing of the recreational center. Ms. Kennedy stated it was more of a safety issue. Commissioner Douglas inquired about the parking along Glen Avenue. Ms. Kennedy again directed the Commission’s attention to the slide and indicated where the parking areas would be, and there is parking along Glen Avenue just not by the traffic circle. Commissioner Douglas asked about traffic
Commissioner Montgomery referred to the new condition to be added and asked if landscaping would be included. Ms. Kennedy stated that landscaping would be included as part of the bonding of the project. Commissioner Montgomery asked about traffic along Cannon while the project is being phased.
Commissioner Boddy asked for clarification on Resolution No. 6343 regarding a certain plant not being used. Ms. Kennedy stated that particular plant is known as creating problems. Commissioner Boddy asked if any of the plants would need to be drought tolerant plants. Ms. Kennedy stated that
Commissioner Cardosa asked for clarification on completion of the Recreation Area. Ms. Kennedy stated it would completed at the 100th occupancy.
Chairperson Baker
Commissioner Cardosa asked Mr. Riddle about the flag lots in the development. Mr. Riddle state there are odd shaped lots but there not any flag lots.
Commissioner Douglas asked about the passive park. Ms. Kennedy stated the applicant had a detailed presentation which would show the amenities for that area. Commissioner Douglas asked Ms. Kennedy to show the Commission the HOA lots. Ms. Kennedy showed the Commission the lots on the slide. Commissioner Douglas asked for the applicant to address the issue regarding an HOA office on site during the phasing of the development as opposed to waiting until completion of the villages.
Commissioner Whitton asked if there would be any solar energy for heating the pool. Ms. Kennedy stated there will be solar panels on shade trellises located in the pool area.
Commissioner Douglas asked staff to show the view from the recreation area. Ms. Kennedy showed the Commission a slide which showed elevations of the building.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any further questions of staff. Seeing none, she asked if the applicant wished to make a presentation.
Josh Gates, McMillin Companies, gave a detailed presentation and stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any questions of the applicant.
Commissioner Whitton asked if McMillin would help pay for the cost of the pool and recreation center during the phasing of the project. Mr. Gates stated as the project develops, the master development would slowly phase out of subsidizing the costs.
Commissioner Douglas inquired as to where the RV parking would be. Mr. Gates indicated that there will be a temporary location in Planning Area 22 to accommodate the RV parking.
Chairperson Baker asked where the models would be located. Mr. Gates directed the Commission’s attention to the slide and pointed out the models for each planning area.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any further questions of the applicant. Seeing none, she asked if there was any person in the audience who wished to speak on the item. Seeing none, she opened and closed public testimony on the item.
Motion to that the Planning Commission ADOPT Planning Commission Resolutions No. 6343, 6344, 6345, and 6346 RECOMMENDING APPROVAL of a Tentative Tract Map (CT 04-26) and Planned Development Permits (PUD 06-12, PUD 06-13, and PUD 06-14); and ADOPT Planning Commission Resolution No. 6347 APPROVING a Site Development Plan (SDP 06 06) based on the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein in addition to include the errata sheet. Moved by Commissioner Cardosa, seconded by .
Commissioner Montgomery stated he is very pleased with the layout of this project.
Commissioner Douglas stated she was very happy to see all the greenery and the pocket parks in the development.
Commissioner Dominguez
Commmissioner Douglas
Commissioner Whitton stated he is very pleased with this project.
Commissioner Boddy and Cardoas stated their concurrence with the project.
Vote to free form that the Planning Commission ADOPT Planning Commission Resolutions No. 6343, 6344, 6345, and 6346 RECOMMENDING APPROVAL of a Tentative Tract Map (CT 04-26) and Planned Development Permits (PUD 06-12, PUD 06-13, and PUD 06-14); and ADOPT Planning Commission Resolution No. 6347 APPROVING a Site Development Plan (SDP 06 06) based on the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein in addition to include the errata sheet. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:04:50)
Planning Commission Comments
Commissioner Montgomery stated the Open Space Committee review items were forwarded to Council.
Commissioner Douglas stated that the Proposition D Committee is in its initiation stage.
Planning Director Comments
Mr. Barberio stated that the Ponto Vision Plan.
City Attorney Comments
Ms. Mobaldi reminded the Commission
Oct 03, 2007 Planning Commission Meeting
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CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Roll call (8 Present, 1 Absent, 0 Excused) (Recorded at 00:05:46)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - September 19, 2007
Motion to to approve the minutes of the Regular Meeting of September 19, 2007 Moved by Commissioner Cardosa, seconded by .
Vote to approve APPROVAL OF MINUTES - September 19, 2007 (Approved) (Recorded at 00:06:11)
PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING
1.
CUP 87-12x4 - FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF CARLSBAD
- Request for a retroactive extension and approval in perpetuity of CUP 87-12x4 to allow the continued operation of a church and operation of a daycare/preschool located at 3780 Pio Pico Drive in the Mello II Segment of the Local Coastal Program (LCP) and in Local Facilities Management Zone 1.
Resolution No. 6342
First Baptist Church Staff Report
Gary Barberio, Assistant Planning Director, introduced Item 1 and stated Planning Technician Chris Sexton would make the staff presentation.
Chairperson Baker opened the public hearing on Item 1.
Ms. Sexton gave a detailed presentation and stated she would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any questions of Staff.
Chairperson Baker inquired if the buildings were permanently installed with foundations. Ms. Sexton stated the buildings are on permanent foundations.
Commissioner Boddy asked if the project will be approved in perpetuity. Ms. Sexton stated that was correct.
Commissioner Dominguez inquired as to what makes this project different from the modulars on the site next door at St. Patrick’s School. Ms. Sexton stated she was not sure because that is a different project and she is unaware of that project’s history and background. Mr. Barberio gave an answer.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any further questions of staff. Seeing none, she asked the applicant if they wished to make a presentation.
Pastor Stan Gold, First Baptist Church of Carlsbad, gave a presentation and stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any questions of the applicant. Seeing none, she asked if anyone in the audience wished to speak on the item. Seeing none, she opened and closed public testimony on the item.
Commissioner Dominguez stated his concerns regarding approving the project in perpetuity.
Chairperson Baker concurred with Commissioner Dominguez.
Mr. Barberio discussed the Conditional Use Permit regulations that are currently in place. He asked for the Commission to determine what they would want to review in 5 or 10 years if a time limit was placed on the project. Chairperson Baker stated that she was not comfortable approving modular, temporary buildings in perpetuity. Commissioner Whitton stated that it was not fair to compare this project with St. Patrick’s which is next door.
Motion to that the Planning Commission ADOPT Planning Commission Resolution No. 6342 APPROVING a retroactive five year extension of CUP 87-12x3 based upon the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein. Moved by Commissioner Cardosa, seconded by .
Vote to free form that the Planning Commission ADOPT Planning Commission Resolution No. 6342 APPROVING a retroactive five year extension of CUP 87-12x3 based upon the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein. (Approved) (Recorded at 00:23:25)
2.
CT 04-26/PUD 06-12/PUD 06-13/PUD 06-14 - ROBERTSON RANCH PAs 16, 17 & 18 and SDP 06-06 - ROBERTSON RANCH PA 19
- Request for a determination that the projects are within the scope of the previously certified Robertson Ranch Master Plan Final Program EIR and that the Program EIR adequately describes the activities for the purposes of CEQA; a request for a recommendation of approval for a Tentative Tract Map and Planned Development Permits for Planning Areas 16, 17 and 18 for 304 residential lots, 5 recreation area lots and 22 HOA lots on 73.45 acres; and, a request for approval of a Site Development Plan to allow for the construction of a community recreation area on 2.02 acres within Planning Area 19. The projects are located within the East Village of the Robertson Ranch Master Plan located north of Cannon Road, west of College Boulevard, and east of future Wind Trail Way in Local Facilities Management Zone 14. Resolutions No. 6343, 6344, 6345, 6346, 6347
Robertson Ranch Planning Areas 16-19 Staff Report
Mr. Barberio introduced Item 2 and stated Associate Planner Barbara Kennedy would make the staff presentation assisted by Associate Engineer Jeremy Riddle.
Chairperson Baker opened the public hearing for Item 2.
Ms. Kennedy gave a detailed presentation and stated she would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any questions of staff.
Commissioner Dominguez asked what the triggers will be for the Phase One Recreation Facility. Ms. Kennedy responded.
Commissioner Boddy asked for further clarification of the fire suppression zones. Ms. Kennedy directed the Commission’s attention to a slide and indicated the zones. Commissioner Boddy asked what the fire suppression zone looks like. Ms. Kennedy stated it is an HOA that has a thinning of the planting materials and it will be maintained by the HOA.
Commissioner Whitton inquired about the trees shown on the plan and if the residents would have the ability to remove them if desired. Ms. Kennedy directed the Commission’s attention to slide and indicated which trees could be removed by the HOA. Commissioner Whitton asked about residents planting trees in the neighboring residents’ views. Ms. Kennedy responded.
Commissioner Douglas asked about the phasing of the recreational center. Ms. Kennedy stated it was more of a safety issue. Commissioner Douglas inquired about the parking along Glen Avenue. Ms. Kennedy again directed the Commission’s attention to the slide and indicated where the parking areas would be, and there is parking along Glen Avenue just not by the traffic circle. Commissioner Douglas asked about traffic
Commissioner Montgomery referred to the new condition to be added and asked if landscaping would be included. Ms. Kennedy stated that landscaping would be included as part of the bonding of the project. Commissioner Montgomery asked about traffic along Cannon while the project is being phased.
Commissioner Boddy asked for clarification on Resolution No. 6343 regarding a certain plant not being used. Ms. Kennedy stated that particular plant is known as creating problems. Commissioner Boddy asked if any of the plants would need to be drought tolerant plants. Ms. Kennedy stated that
Commissioner Cardosa asked for clarification on completion of the Recreation Area. Ms. Kennedy stated it would completed at the 100th occupancy.
Chairperson Baker
Commissioner Cardosa asked Mr. Riddle about the flag lots in the development. Mr. Riddle state there are odd shaped lots but there not any flag lots.
Commissioner Douglas asked about the passive park. Ms. Kennedy stated the applicant had a detailed presentation which would show the amenities for that area. Commissioner Douglas asked Ms. Kennedy to show the Commission the HOA lots. Ms. Kennedy showed the Commission the lots on the slide. Commissioner Douglas asked for the applicant to address the issue regarding an HOA office on site during the phasing of the development as opposed to waiting until completion of the villages.
Commissioner Whitton asked if there would be any solar energy for heating the pool. Ms. Kennedy stated there will be solar panels on shade trellises located in the pool area.
Commissioner Douglas asked staff to show the view from the recreation area. Ms. Kennedy showed the Commission a slide which showed elevations of the building.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any further questions of staff. Seeing none, she asked if the applicant wished to make a presentation.
Josh Gates, McMillin Companies, gave a detailed presentation and stated he would be available to answer any questions.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any questions of the applicant.
Commissioner Whitton asked if McMillin would help pay for the cost of the pool and recreation center during the phasing of the project. Mr. Gates stated as the project develops, the master development would slowly phase out of subsidizing the costs.
Commissioner Douglas inquired as to where the RV parking would be. Mr. Gates indicated that there will be a temporary location in Planning Area 22 to accommodate the RV parking.
Chairperson Baker asked where the models would be located. Mr. Gates directed the Commission’s attention to the slide and pointed out the models for each planning area.
Chairperson Baker asked if there were any further questions of the applicant. Seeing none, she asked if there was any person in the audience who wished to speak on the item. Seeing none, she opened and closed public testimony on the item.
Motion to that the Planning Commission ADOPT Planning Commission Resolutions No. 6343, 6344, 6345, and 6346 RECOMMENDING APPROVAL of a Tentative Tract Map (CT 04-26) and Planned Development Permits (PUD 06-12, PUD 06-13, and PUD 06-14); and ADOPT Planning Commission Resolution No. 6347 APPROVING a Site Development Plan (SDP 06 06) based on the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein in addition to include the errata sheet. Moved by Commissioner Cardosa, seconded by .
Commissioner Montgomery stated he is very pleased with the layout of this project.
Commissioner Douglas stated she was very happy to see all the greenery and the pocket parks in the development.
Commissioner Dominguez
Commmissioner Douglas
Commissioner Whitton stated he is very pleased with this project.
Commissioner Boddy and Cardoas stated their concurrence with the project.
Vote to free form that the Planning Commission ADOPT Planning Commission Resolutions No. 6343, 6344, 6345, and 6346 RECOMMENDING APPROVAL of a Tentative Tract Map (CT 04-26) and Planned Development Permits (PUD 06-12, PUD 06-13, and PUD 06-14); and ADOPT Planning Commission Resolution No. 6347 APPROVING a Site Development Plan (SDP 06 06) based on the findings and subject to the conditions contained therein in addition to include the errata sheet. (Approved) (Recorded at 01:04:50)
Planning Commission Comments
Commissioner Montgomery stated the Open Space Committee review items were forwarded to Council.
Commissioner Douglas stated that the Proposition D Committee is in its initiation stage.
Planning Director Comments
Mr. Barberio stated that the Ponto Vision Plan.
City Attorney Comments
Ms. Mobaldi reminded the Commission
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