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COUNCIL MEETING AND COULD THE CLERK PLEASE ROLL.
LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT AND WILL GO ON TO IF MR. BLACKBURN WILL PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
MS. BREWER, DO YOU WANT TO REPORT OUT ON CLOSED SESSION? THANK YOU.
WE HAVE NO REPORTABLE ACTION FROM CLOSED SESSION.
OKAY, SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MINUTES.
[PRESENTATIONS]
WE GO STRAIGHT NEXT TO PRESENTATIONS AND WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND RECOGNITION OF COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH AND MR. BLACKBURN WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLEASE TAKE THAT ONE? IT'S MY PLEASURE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH.IT READS, CHANGE IS CONSISTENT AND AFFECTS ALL CITIES, TOWNS, SUBURBS, COUNTIES, BOROUGHS, TOWNSHIPS AND RURAL AREAS, AND COMMUNITY PLANNING CAN HELP MANAGE THIS CHANGE IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES BETTER CHOICES FOR HOW PEOPLE WORK AND LIVE.
COMMUNITY PLANNING PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS TO BE MEANINGFULLY INVOLVED AND MAKING CHOICES THAT DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
THE MONTH OF OCTOBER IS DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND ITS TERRITORIES.
THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION ENDORSES NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT HOW PLANNING IS ESSENTIAL TO RECOVERY AND HOW PLANNERS CAN LEAD COMMUNITIES TO EQUITABLE, RESILIENT AND LONG LASTING RECOVERY.
THE CELEBRATION OF NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE THE PARTICIPATION AND DEDICATION OF PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER PLANNERS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT MANY VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY PROFESSIONAL COMMUNITIES AND PLANNERS OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND EXTEND OUR HEARTFELT THANKS FOR THE CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE BY THESE PROFESSIONALS, I THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 21ST 2021 AS COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH.
AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INVITE MIKE STRONG, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKBURN AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IT'S MY HONOR TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION THAT RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF PLANNING AND OTHER SIGNIFICANT ROLES IN SHAPING THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
PLANNERS WORK TO IMPROVE THE WELL-BEING OF ALL PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITIES BY TAKING A COMMUNITY AND COMPREHENSIVE PERSPECTIVE THAT LEADS TO SAFER, RESILIENT AND MORE EQUITABLE AND PROSPEROUS COMMUNITIES.
WE CELEBRATE THE ROLE THAT PLANNING PLAYS IN CREATING THE GREAT COMMUNITIES LIKE CARLSBAD EACH OCTOBER WITH NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING.
OK, NEXT PROCLAMATION START UP MONTH AND COUNCIL MEMBER MR. NORBY THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I AM GRATEFUL TO AND PRIVILEGED OR PLEASED TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO RYAN KUDER FROM STARTUP SAN DIEGO.
WHEREAS STARTUP COMPANIES ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE INNOVATION ECOSYSTEM IN CARLSBAD AND CONTRIBUTE TO ITS ECONOMIC GROWTH.
AND WHEREAS IN PAST YEARS, 26 CARLSBAD STARTUPS RAISED MORE THAN TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY MILLION IN CAPITAL TO USE FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
AND WHEREAS STARTUP SAN DIEGO, AN ORGANIZATION SUPPORTING STARTUP ACTIVITY IN THE GREATER SAN DIEGO REGION, CREATED SAN DIEGO STARTUP WEEK, WHICH HAS GROWN INTO SAN DIEGO STARTUP MONTH.
AND WHEREAS SAN DIEGO STARTUP MONTH IS FOCUSED ON SUPPORTING AND DEVELOPING STARTUPS IN THE GREATER SAN DIEGO REGION AND IT'S SINCE EIGHTH YEAR, HAVING STARTED IN 2013 AS A WEEKLONG EVENT, WITH TWO HUNDRED PARTICIPANTS NOW GROWING TO A MONTH LONG EVENT WITH THOUSANDS OF ATTENDEES AND WHEREAS IN 2020 STARTUP SAN DIEGO DIGITALLY HOSTED TWO THOUSAND ENTREPRENEURS, IN ADDITION TO CONFERENCE ATTENDEES INCUBATED 10 DIVERSE COMPANIES, 60 PERCENT OF WHICH WERE PEOPLE OF COLOR LED AND 30 PERCENT FEMALE LED.
AND WHEREAS THROUGH THE FOCUS ON ACCESSIBILITY SAN DIEGO STARTUP MONTH
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ROUTINELY BREAKS DOWN BARRIERS FOR THOUSANDS OF FOUNDERS, TALENT, VETERANS, STUDENTS AND GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING CONDUCTING EVENTS FROM MEXICO TO NORTH COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.NOW, THEREFORE, I COUNCIL MEMBER PEDER NORBY, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2021 STARTUP MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, AND THIS WILL GO TO RYAN KUDER.
I DON'T KNOW IF RYAN IS WITH US OR NOT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.
IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF START UP SAN DIEGO AND ALL THE ENTREPRENEURS ACROSS SAN DIEGO AND ESPECIALLY IN NORTH COUNTY AND CARLSBAD I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU ALL FOR PUTTING TOGETHER SUCH A GREAT PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO START TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES.
WE'VE SEEN SAN DIEGO GO THROUGH A BIT OF A RENAISSANCE LATELY, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME AREAS IN THIS COUNTY THAT HAVE EMERGED AS HUBS FOR STARTUP ACTIVITY, AND CARLSBAD IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE HUBS.
THIS GROUP AND THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD HAVE BEEN A TREMENDOUS HOST FOR STARTUP SAN DIEGO FOR SAN DIEGO STARTUP MONTH AND FOR THE COMPANIES AND ENTREPRENEURS THAT MAKE THESE THINGS WORK.
AND SO, ON BEHALF OF STARTUP SAN DIEGO, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE RECOGNITION AND FOR ALL THAT YOU DO TO SUPPORT SAN DIEGO ENTREPRENEURS AND FOUNDERS.
OKAY, WE THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, ESPECIALLY HERE IN NORTH COUNTY.
OK, MOVING ON, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE CHALLENGING TIMES.
ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING PARTS OF THE YEAR IS RED RIBBON WEEK.
AND AS ROSEMARY, ARE YOU HERE MS. ESHELMAN AND ALL I CAN SAY IS, I WISH WE WERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
I MEAN, SEEING ALL OF THOSE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN AND HOW EXCITED THEY ARE AND HOW CARING THEY ARE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY AND WHAT MAKES THEIR COMMUNITY REALLY WHAT IT IS TODAY.
SO IT'S MY HONOR TODAY TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE RED RIBBON WEEK AND GIVE A PROCLAMATION.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU ROSEMARY TO DO YOUR INTRODUCTIONS ALSO.
SO WHEREAS THE CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE A STRONG COMMITMENT TO ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND OTHER DRUG PREVENTION AND EDUCATION ACTIVITIES, WHEREAS WE RECOGNIZE THE OVERWHELMING FINANCIAL BURDEN TO SOCIETY OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND OTHER DRUG USE, WHEREAS WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPACT OF ADDICTION AND POOR HEALTH ON OUR CITIZENS, THEIR FAMILY AND THEIR FRIENDS.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND OTHER DRUGS USE BRING ISOLATION, ACADEMIC FAILURE, VIOLENCE AND HOPELESSNESS TO THE YOUTH OF CARLSBAD.
NOW, THEREFORE, I MATT HALL, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY JOIN CITIES THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 25TH THROUGH OCTOBER 29TH 2021 AS RED RIBBON WEEK IN ALL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD SCHOOLS AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN OUR COMMITMENT TO A HEALTHY, DRUG FREE COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE RAISE A GENERATION OF HEALTHY AND DRUG-FREE CHILDREN.
WITH THAT MS. ESHELMAN IT'S ALL YOURS.
KIKI CAMARENA, A POOR MEXICAN-AMERICAN WHO WORKED HARD, SERVED IN THE MARINE CORPS, BECAME A FIREMAN, A POLICEMAN AND FINALLY A DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENT IS RECOGNIZED AROUND THE WORLD EVERY YEAR BY MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
HE KNEW HIS LIFE WORK WOULD BE DANGEROUS, BUT HE ALSO KNEW ONE PERSON CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
KIKI GAVE HIS LIFE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST DRUGS, TRYING TO HELP OTHERS.
TO HONOR KIKI HIS FAMILY, HIS FRIENDS WE WEAR RED DURING THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF OCTOBER.
THANK YOU ALL FOR CELEBRATING KIKI AND OUR CARLSBAD SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY AS WE WORK TOGETHER TO SHOW OUR YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WE SUPPORT THEM IN MAKING HEALTHY CHOICES TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE TO SOMEDAY THEY WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.
NOW I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE FOLLOWING SCHOOLS AND STUDENTS.
EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T BE THERE IN PERSON, WE WANT YOU TO SEE THE STUDENTS THAT WILL BE ACCEPTING THE RED RIBBON WEEK PROCLAMATIONS FOR CARLSBAD UNIFIED.
FOR AVIARA OAKS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE HAVE MALIA MONTOYA AND CAROLINA LEE.
FOR BUENA VISTA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE HAVE SAGE AND TAI NELSON.
FOR CALAVERA HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE HAVE JAKE WELKIN AND RILEY PERLMAN.
FOR HOPE ELEMENTARY, EVELYN WORKMAN.
FOR JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY, DAHLIA WARDELL AND ABRAHAM ORTEGA.
FOR KELLY ELEMENTARY, STEVEN LYONS AND CALLIA MERCADO.
PACIFIC RIM ELEMENTARY, KAYDEN PASSINI AND TAYLOR ADAMS. POINSETTIA ELEMENTARY, AIDEN AND ETHAN TELAMOTH.
FOR AVIARA OAKS MIDDLE SCHOOL, MILIYA VILLAPONDO AND KATHERINE EMMONS.
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FOR CALAVERA HILLS MIDDLE SCHOOL, ADDISON LAREDO AND PHOEBE DEL POZO.FOR VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL GRACE SALSA AND TOBIAS MCDONALD.
FOR CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL, KIA DE SOTO AND GRACE ANDERSON.
AND FOR SAGE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, HIYA BEDRI AND DOMINIC MCCAUSLAND.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR MAKING TIME FOR THIS RECOGNITION AND FOR HAVING THESE STUDENTS BE ON HERE, AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR TAKING THE TIME TO PUT THAT MONTAGE TOGETHER.
IT MEANS A LOT TO US AND YOUR SUPPORT MEANS A LOT TO US.
AND THANK YOU, MS. ESHELMAN, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE STUDENTS THAT PARTICIPATED, AND I I JUST WISH NEXT YEAR THAT WE COULD ALL BE HERE IN PERSON BECAUSE IT IS A VERY SPECIAL DAY.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IS PROVIDED TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
THEY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY SUBMITTING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED, UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
ALL OTHER NON AGENDA COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.
NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS, SO WITH THAT CITY CLERK? AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY IF YOU'RE USING THE MEETING LINK TO LOG IN OR IF YOU'RE JOINING US BY PHONE, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW TO RAISE YOUR HAND.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME OR LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.
YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
YOU WILL BE MUTED ONCE YOUR THREE MINUTES HAVE CONCLUDED.
ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
I DO SHOW A SPEAKER AT ONE SIX, EIGHT ONE.
WILL YOU PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? THANK YOU.
THIS IS KATIE TAYLOR, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF MAYOR MATT HALL, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ANYBODY WHO WILL LISTEN ABOUT A TERRIBLE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED AT CARLSBAD VILLAGE FAIR YESTERDAY.
I ARRIVED THERE ABOUT 4:40 PM AND WHILE DRIVING INTO CARLSBAD VILLAGE SQUARE FROM GRAND STREET, I SAW A LARGE GROUP OF LOITERING AT ROTARY PARK, PROBABLY ABOUT 15 TO 20 PEOPLE AND A WHITE TRUCK WAS PULLED UP BY THE RED CURVE.
THE TRUCK BED WAS OVERFLOWING WITH BAGS OF CLOTHES AND STUFF.
WHEN I STARTED TAKING PICTURES FROM MY CAR, THE DRIVER OF THE TRUCK AND ANOTHER MAN STARTED YELLING AND CURSING AT ME, USING THE F-WORD AND OTHER AMAZING PROFANITIES, TELLING ME TO GET OUT OF THERE.
THESE TWO MEN WALKED AGGRESSIVELY TOWARDS MY CAR WITH THEIR HANDS IN THE AIR.
WHEN I SAID I WAS GOING TO START TAKING A VIDEO, THEY STOPPED USING PROFANITY AND JUST STARTED MOCKING ME AND TELLING ME TO LEAVE.
I THEN PARKED MY CAR AT THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE FAIR.
I CALLED OFFICER GRILL THE HAWK TEAM.
HE SAID HE WOULD REPORT AND SEND AN OFFICER.
I WAITED TWENTY FIVE MINUTES AND NOBODY FROM CPD SHOWED UP.
SO I GAVE MY PHOTOS TO CARLSBAD VILLAGE FAIR SECURITY GUARD HUGO TO SHOW THE OFFICER.
AND HE DID SEND ME A PICTURE OF THE SAME GROUP WAS STILL THERE.
IN ADDITION TO THIS LARGE GROUP, THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHERS AT ROTARY PARK WITH TENTS, SLEEPING BAGS, CHAIRS.
PLUS, THE MAN WHO ALWAYS SITS IN A WHEELCHAIR, ALWAYS IN THE SAME SPOT INTERESTING WHEN I STARTED TAKING PICTURES OF THE MAN IN THE WHEELCHAIR, WHO ALSO HAS A LARGE SHOPPING CART PILED HIGH NEXT TO HIM.
ANOTHER MAN CAME AND WHEELED HIM AWAY ACROSS GRAND TOWARDS THE TRAIN STATION.
THE WHITE TRUCK ALSO LEFT AND CAME BACK ABOUT 15 MINUTES LATER AND SAW ME TAKING PICTURES AND LEFT AGAIN.
THE SITUATION THERE IS OUT OF CONTROL.
TRY GOING OVER THERE WHERE THE MAN IN THE WHEELCHAIR PLANTS HIMSELF.
HE HAS URINATED THERE SO MANY TIMES THE SMELL HAS SEEPED INTO THE CONCRETE AND THE CONCRETE IS STAINED FROM URINE.
BOTTOM LINE ROTARY PARK HAS BECOME THE CENTER OF OPERATIONS FOR A LARGE GROUP OF HOMELESS AND TRANSIENTS.
IF THESE PEOPLE CANNOT BE KEPT AWAY FROM ROTARY PARK THEN FENCE IT OFF.
AT LEAST THE BUSINESS OWNERS, CUSTOMERS AND THE PUBLIC ARE SAFE FROM ASSAULT IN THIS LOCATION.
WITH GROWING NUMBERS I OBSERVED OVER THIS WEEKEND MORE THAN I'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEONE IS PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED OR HURT.
SO, CARLSBAD MUST PASS A SHOPPING CART ORDINANCE.
THIS WILL HELP PREVENT THE HOMELESS AND TRANSIENTS FROM HAULING THIS STUFF AROUND DOWNTOWN CARLSBAD.
BUSINESSES ARE SHORT OF SHOPPING CARTS TO DO THE HIGH AMOUNT OF THEFT.
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY CARLSBAD HAS NOT ACTED ON THIS CRITICAL PART OF THE
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PROBLEM.I WISH EVERYBODY WOULD TAKE THIS PROBLEM SO SERIOUSLY BECAUSE IT'S NOW REACHING A DANGEROUS LEVEL.
WILL YOU PLEASE UNMUTE? I MEAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON TWO THINGS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT TWO, MAYBE TWO AND A HALF MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS AN APPROVAL FOR, I THINK, A FOUR TO SIX UNIT CONDO COMPLEX AT PINE AND ROOSEVELT.
BUT AT THAT CORNER, THERE IS A FIRE HYDRANT WITH NO RED CURVE.
SO YOU APPROVED A PROPERTY WHICH IS GOING TO INCREASE THE TRAFFIC WITHOUT DOING ANY TYPE OF TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT OR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
I JUST WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION SO THAT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF.
AND I GUESS LAST WEEK YOU MADE A HISTORIC DISTRICT FOR THE VILLAS IN THE BARRIO MASTER PLAN AND A LITTLE BLURB CAME OUT.
BUT I'M SOMEWHAT CONCERNED BECAUSE IT STRESSED EVERYTHING BUT THE RESIDENTS AND I KNOW THAT THE PLAN IS IN DEVELOPMENT.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT RESIDENTIAL PART OF THE BARRIO IS NOT THE SAME AS THE COMMERCIAL PART OF THE VILLAGE, AND I UNDERSTAND WE CAN WORK HAND IN HAND.
BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT AS WE DEVELOP A PLAN, WE UNDERSTAND THAT RESIDENT'S NEEDS ARE DIFFERENT AND THAT FUTURE BLURBS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS SHOULD INCLUDE A SECTION ABOUT THE RESIDENTS.
SO THE RESIDENTS KNOW WE ARE WORKING HAND IN HAND FOR THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER ENDS WITH TWO ONE FIVE TWO.
WILL YOU PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.
SPEAKING TONIGHT ON POLICY 35, THAT IS PLANNING DEPARTMENT POLICY 35 TITLED CONSISTENCY, DETERMINATION, AND I HAVE PROVIDED AN EXHIBIT AND A COPY OF MY REMARKS FOR YOUR REVIEW.
POLICY 35 ALLOWS CHANGES TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU, THE CITY, CAN ACCEPT CHANGES FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED BY YOUR DISCRETIONARY PROCESS TO WHAT ACTUALLY GETS FILLED.
I AM ASKING ON TWO ACTIONS ON YOUR PART.
NUMBER ONE, I AM ASKING THAT YOU PUT AN IMMEDIATE FREEZE ON THE USE OF POLICY 35 AND CONVENE A COMMITTEE TO REWORK THAT POLICY.
NUMBER TWO, I ASK THAT YOU REQUIRE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT COME BEFORE YOU IN A PUBLIC HEARING AND EXPLAIN HOW THEY USE POLICY 35 AND WHY.
THE HOW AND WHY IT WAS USED ON THE LOSS.
THE LOSS IS LOCATED IN CARLSBAD'S UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE VILLAGE WHERE BUILDINGS ARE SET AT THE STREET EDGE.
THE LARGEST EVER REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND WAS BUILT AT THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALLOW ME TO REMIND YOU THAT WE ONLY GET ONE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A FIRST IMPRESSION.
I AM SURE ALL OF US ARE AWARE THAT MANY IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE GRUMBLED ABOUT THE CHANGES IN THE VILLAGE.
A COMMON REFRAIN IS A LOSS OF QUAINTNESS.
I BELIEVE YOU CAN EQUATE QUAINTNESS WITH CHARM, AND A WAY TO CREATE CHARM IS FROM ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER.
ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER IS EXACTLY WHAT POLICY 35 SUCKED OUT OF THE LOFTS SUCKED OUT OF THE LOFT.
BUT WHY? WHY WERE THESE CHANGES ALLOWED CHANGES TO WHAT WAS APPROVED BY YOU THROUGH THE DISCRETIONARY PROCESS? UNDERSTANDABLY, BUILDING DESIGN OR DESIGN IN GENERAL MAY NOT BE YOUR STRONG POINT, BUT THE PROCESS OF REVIEW AND APPROVAL, YOU KNOW WELL, YOU CAN SEE FROM MY HAND AT A COMPARISON OF THE BUILDING'S APPEARANCE, WHERE I HAVE GIVEN LITTLE GRADS TO THE BUILDING AND APPROVAL A GRADE OF A SOLID A AS BOTH TODAY A GRADE OF C MINUS C MINUS FOR CARLSBAD.
GRANTED, THESE LETTER GRADES ARE JUST FOR ME, SO I ASK THAT EACH OF YOU TAKE A GOOD LONG LOOK AT WHAT WAS DONE TO THE LOFTS DONE IN YOUR NAME BY POLICY 35.
AS FAR AS THE LOFTS, WHAT'S DONE IS DONE POLICY 35 HAS HAD ITS EFFECT ON DUMBING DOWN THE VISUAL CHARACTER OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
BUT IF THIS PITCH MAKES SENSE TO YOU, WHAT IS NEXT IS THE QUESTION OF WHY? WHY WAS THIS DONE TO THE LOFTS? WE ALL NEED TO HEAR THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, AND WE ALL NEED TO HEAR THAT ANSWER TOGETHER.
OK, I WANT TO THANK THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT FOR THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND NEXT
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MOVING ONTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR'S.CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO PULL AN ITEM? DR. BHAT-PATEL.
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OK.ANY OTHER ITEMS? A MOTION PLEASE MR. BLACKBURN.
MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE, TWO AND THREE.
SECOND, COULD THE CLERK PLEASE CALL ROLL? MAYOR, IF I COULD DO PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST FOR THESE.
AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY NOW OR PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW TO RAISE YOUR HAND.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME OR LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE AND CLEARLY STATE WHICH ITEM YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO BEFORE THE START OF YOUR COMMENT.
YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
YOU WILL BE MUTED ONCE YOUR THREE MINUTES HAVE CONCLUDED.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
I DON'T SEE ANY SPEAKERS I CAN TAKE ROLL NOW, IF YOU'D LIKE.
[4. APPROVAL OF THE 2022 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR]
MAYOR HALL.ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR PASS UNANIMOUSLY COMING BACK TO ITEM FOUR AND ITEM FOUR IS APPROVAL OF THE 2022 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND LAY OUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS I HAD AND THEN ALSO JUST WANTED TO CHAT WITH MY COLLEAGUES TO SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE.
SO THIS IS AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, IT TALKS ABOUT THE 2022 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR AND HAS, OF COURSE, ALL OF OUR MEETINGS LAID OUT FOR THE YEAR.
SO CURRENTLY, I'M SURE YOU'VE NOTICED OUR VIRTUAL MEETINGS START AT THREE P.M.
AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE'VE STARTED AT THREE OR PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE WERE STARTING AT SIX, OUR MEETINGS HAVE BEEN ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE HOURS IN LENGTH.
SO BASED ON THAT, I KNOW THAT OUR TEAM HAD GIVEN US THE SUGGESTION OF MOVING IT TO FOUR P.M.
AND WHETHER THAT'S VIRTUAL IN PERSON, I KNOW WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT MOMENTARILY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE IN JANUARY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK OUR TEAM, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE WORKING.
AND I KNOW THE REASON WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 4:00 P.M.
IS BECAUSE THEN OUR STAFF IS THERE FOR QUITE, SOME TIME LATE INTO THE NIGHT AS WELL.
I WAS CURIOUS AS TO HOW WE WILL BE POTENTIALLY MAINTAINING SOME SEMBLANCE OF WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER CALL IN OR BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT SORT OF MANNER, EVEN IF WE ARE IN PERSON.
BECAUSE ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE WORKING, TAKING TIME TO DRIVE OVER TO CITY HALL AT FOUR P.M.
MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE, BUT MAYBE THEY CAN CALL IN FOR THEIR THREE MINUTE STINT.
AND SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WERE AT WITH THAT CURRENTLY? AND IF WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE TOWARDS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES DOING THAT, AND I'M AWARE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE MAY NOT BE THERE JUST YET.
[INAUDIBLE] AND I WAS JUST GOING TO CALL ON CHEILA TO GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE A RESPONSE, CHEILA.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
YEAH, ACTUALLY STAFF FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND IT HAVE ALREADY BEGAN LOOKING AT WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO INSTALL IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER TO ALLOW VIRTUAL COMMENTS IN ADDITION TO IN PERSON COMMENTING, WE'VE OBTAINED A QUOTE FOR APPROXIMATELY TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND FOR THE EQUIPMENT SIDE OF THINGS.
HOWEVER, THERE WILL ALSO BE ADDITIONAL STAFF NEEDED ON THE FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE IT DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT AND SUPPORT THE VIRTUAL MEETING IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN IN-PERSON MEETING BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY LIKE CONDUCTING TWO MEETINGS AT ONE TIME.
BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT IT, AND WE DON'T KNOW AS FAR AS ONCE WE PLACE THE ORDER FOR THE EQUIPMENT, IF THERE WILL BE ANY BACK ORDERS THAT WE WILL NEED TO ADDRESS.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF LIKE OUR OTHER, I GUESS, QUICK FOLLOW UP TO THAT AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE DOING IT SIMILARLY, WHERE THEY HAVE TO HAVE STAFF AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT OR ARE THEY DOING IT DIFFERENTLY? I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS.
I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT I KNOW THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE WITH TALKING WITH OTHER CLERKS THEY'RE ACTUALLY CONDUCTING A VIRTUAL WEBINAR COMPONENT AS WELL AS DOING THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, AND WE JUST SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER THAT PROCESS AT THIS TIME.
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YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I JUST WAS CURIOUS AND WANTED TO AT LEAST GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM OUR TEAM WITH REGARDS TO 4:00 P.M.IF YOU ALL ARE OPEN TO IT, I MEAN, I'M FINE DOING THAT.
I THINK I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING AS OPEN IN TERMS OF ALLOWING FOR FOLKS THAT REALLY WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME, SPEAK AND IF THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY'RE UNABLE TO MAKE IT, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO STILL PARTICIPATE.
I KNOW PEOPLE CAN STILL WRITE IN THEIR COMMENTS AND SAY, PLEASE INCLUDE THIS AS PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS KNOW THAT YOU CAN STILL DO THAT.
THAT'S REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ON WHAT WAS JUST ASKED AND SHARED WHETHER THAT WOULD BE IF WE STARTED AT 4:00 P.M.
IF WE HAVE SOME SORT OF MAYBE, HEY, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
WOULD YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AT FOUR OR WOULD YOU WANT TO? SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO HEAR SOME THOUGHTS AROUND THAT.
LET'S JUST GO AROUND THE ROOM, SO WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND I DID THINK ABOUT THIS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE AGENDA PACKET.
WHAT IS IT THAT I'VE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE? WHAT HAVE I HEARD OTHER CITIES DOING AND WHAT DO I THINK WORKS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR STAFF? I LIKE WHAT WE HAVE NOW THE THREE O'CLOCK VIRTUAL SIX O'CLOCK EVENING MEETINGS FOR IN PERSON, BUT I'M OPEN AND FLEXIBLE.
IF FOUR O'CLOCK [INAUDIBLE] AS KIND OF A COMPROMISE GOING FORWARD, I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO.
WHATEVER WORKS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR STAFF TO TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND TO MANAGE AND COORDINATE, I'M FINE WITH.
SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU PULLED THIS COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL BECAUSE I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE KIND OF EXPOSING IT FOR CONVERSATION AMONGST US.
AND I'M OPEN TO CHANGING IT OR TO GOING WITH THIS RECOMMENDED OPTION.
YOUR THOUGHTS? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
A COUPLE, I GUESS JUST HISTORICALLY, I'M USED TO THE SIX P.M.
TIME AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION TO STAFF IN TERMS OF DURING OUR COUNCIL BRIEFING IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, AFTER WORK HOURS AND PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO ATTEND.
AND I CAN REMEMBER ALSO COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MEETINGS THAT WENT TO 10 OR 11 OR 12.
AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE ITEM I WANTED TO TALK ON WAS NUMBER 10 ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT, TOO IN TERMS OF STAYING UNTIL 11 OR 12.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PERFECT ANSWER.
I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS EFFICIENTLY, GET ALL THE BUSINESS AND ALL THE TALKING THAT WE NEED TO DO AND HAVE MAYBE HISTORICALLY COMPACT MEETINGS AS OPPOSED TO LONG, ELONGATED MEETINGS, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
BUT I THINK WHERE I WOULD COME DOWN ON THIS IS THAT I WANT EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
I WANT EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ON THIS BODY.
AND I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR CONFLICT OR TIME CONFLICT STARTING AT THREE OR FOUR.
BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST BE THE PEOPLE WHO CAN GET OFF WORK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WORK OR A RETIRED PERSON.
AND I WANT TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE WHO, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE CURRENT COUNCIL MAKEUP.
WE HAVE ALL GENERATIONS IN HERE AND ALL DIFFERENT WORK BACKGROUNDS, AND I THINK THAT THAT WORKS REALLY WELL ON VIRTUAL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS IN PERSON, BUT I WOULD BE OPEN TO STARTING LATER EITHER FIVE O'CLOCK OR SIX O'CLOCK.
AND IF THE MEETINGS JUST GO ENDLESSLY LONG THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY ADJUST IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT.
I THINK A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO THIS.
NOT ONLY IS IT DIFFICULT FOR THE PUBLIC TO STAY UP UNTIL 11 O'CLOCK AND THEN ALSO FOR THE LAST SPEAKERS TO BE HEARD AT 11 O'CLOCK.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR STAFF.
I ONCE HEARD ONE OF OUR STAFFERS MAKE A COMMENT THAT SOMETIMES NOT THE BEST DECISIONS ARE MADE AT 10 AND 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
SO I THINK STAFF MADE A VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATION OF SAYING START AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
THE COMPROMISE I WOULD THROW OUT THERE WOULD BE IF WE'RE CONCERNED WITH PUBLIC SPEAKERS NOT BEING ABLE TO SHOW UP AT AT FOUR O'CLOCK, THAT WE ALSO DO ANOTHER 15 MINUTES.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN LEGAL, BUT JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE AS AN IDEA.
ANOTHER 15 MINUTES WORTH OF SPEAKERS THAT ARE WEDGED IN SOMEWHERE IN THE SEVEN O'CLOCK RANGE BETWEEN AGENDA ITEMS. JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE AS A COMPROMISE.
I'D HATE TO HAVE TO HAVE STAFF PUT TOGETHER ADDITIONAL MANPOWER AND
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TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ONLINE SPEAKERS.AND I GUESS I WOULD ECHO MR. NORBY, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS CHALLENGING IS NOT JUST PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK TO AN ITEM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE HAVING TO TRAVEL.
I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE GET OUT OF WORK SOMEWHERE AROUND 3:30 TO 5:00, AND THEN DEPENDING ON THEIR TRAVEL TIME, IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 10 MINUTES TO AN HOUR TO GET HOME.
AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN'T BE IN A COUNCIL MEETING UNLESS YOU WANT TO TRY AND DO IT ON A PHONE AS YOU'RE DRIVING.
BUT I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT ARE THE WINDOWS OF TIME AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS, THERE IS A REASON WHY THAT SIX O'CLOCK WAS PICKED.
ALSO, I THINK WE ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO RUN AN EFFICIENT MEETING AND TIME HAS VALUE AND WE SHOULD RESPECT JUST AS OUR SPEAKERS HAVE A TIME FRAME IN WHICH TO SPEAK, I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT OURSELVES AND HOW WE CONDUCT OURSELVES AND HOW MUCH TIME WE TAKE UP ON PERHAPS OUR COMMENTS AND SOME OF THE THINGS.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT TIMES IT SEEMS THEY BECOME QUITE LENGTHY.
AND SO THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO RUN AN EFFICIENT MEETING.
SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE RIGHT NOW THE THE SWEET SPOT IS FOUR O'CLOCK.
DID YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME FURTHER COMMENT? SURE.
NO, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK, IT'S HELPFUL TO HEAR WHERE EVERYONE'S AT, AND OF COURSE, I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR STAFF IS NOT GOING TO BE STAYING LATE AND THEN HAVING TO COME TO WORK SUPER EARLY THE NEXT DAY AT THE SAME TIME, WANTING TO BE MINDFUL OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE.
SO YOU KNOW, I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR HOW WE WOULD FEEL ABOUT STARTING AT FIVE P.M.
I KNOW IT'S STILL FOLKS HAVING MAYBE IF THEY END AT FIVE, THEY STILL MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT IN.
I WOULD BE OPEN TO DOING LIKE A FIVE.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK OF OUR TEAM, OF MY COLLEAGUES IS, AND YOU KIND OF ALLUDED TO THIS MAYOR WAS WHEN WE DID ACTUALLY COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY WAS PART OF THAT PROCESS.
WHEN WE DID THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PUTTING SOME SORT OF AND I KNOW WE CAN'T REALLY WRITE IT IN AS A FORMAL THING, BUT JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS IS HOW WE'RE AIMING TO BE DONE BY THIS PARTICULAR TIME AND TRYING TO BE ABLE TO AIM TO BE DONE BY A SPECIFIC TIME, EACH MEETING SO THAT AS WE KEEP THAT IN MIND, BEING, AS YOU SAID, EFFICIENT WITH OUR QUESTIONS AND I THINK MOST OF US HAVE OUR QUESTIONS THAT WE TAG PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT OF COURSE THINGS WILL COME UP DURING THE MEETING AS WELL.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO STRIVE FOR IT.
BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR IF YOU ALL ARE OPEN TO FIVE THAT KIND OF BRINGS IT IN BETWEEN THAT FOUR TO SIX.
I KNOW SOME FOLKS ARE THINKING FOUR SOME FOLKS WERE SAYING SIX, SO AT THE VERY LEAST, I DON'T KNOW HOW FIVE FEELS TO FOLKS AND THEN TRYING TO MAYBE OBVIOUSLY MAKE A COMMITMENT AMONGST THE FIVE OF US TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO GET OUT OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR OFF OF ZOOM, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, BY A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME.
SO LET'S GO BACK AROUND THE ROOM.
I THINK THAT FIVE O'CLOCK IS A GREAT COMPROMISE AND REALLY JUST LOOKING OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO JOIN US AT OUR MEETINGS.
AND I DO REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION ABOUT KIND OF AGENDA MANAGEMENT AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR AGENDA IS NOT SO LONG THAT IT WOULD GO WELL PAST 10 P.M.
AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE STAFF, HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND WE'VE ALL DONE A GOOD JOB OF CUTTING BACK A LITTLE BIT.
AND ALTHOUGH I DON'T WANT TO CURTAIL OUR DISCUSSION AS WE'RE EXPLAINING OUR RATIONALE, AND I KNOW I SAID THIS BEFORE FOR OUR DECISIONS, WHEN WE'RE EXPLAINING WHY WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS AND ASKING QUESTIONS, WE DON'T WANT TO CUT BACK ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THE PROCESS OF MAKING THESE DECISIONS.
SO I'M FINE WITH FIVE O'CLOCK.
AND I THINK THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT WORK AND EVEN REVISIT THAT IF IT'S NOT WORKING IN THE FUTURE.
FOR FOUR O'CLOCK, BUT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE I'M GOING TO WIN THIS ARGUMENT.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION.
SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO HAVE OUR SCHEDULED MEETINGS STARTING AT 5:00 P.M.
AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT IF WE NEED TO, IF IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT WORKING.
DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CHANGE THE VIRTUAL MEETINGS TO FIVE O'CLOCK
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STARTING THE NEXT MEETINGS? SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS JUST FOR THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THE VIRTUAL MEETINGS WERE SEPARATE THAT ONE, IT SAYS ALL VIRTUAL MEETINGS WILL BE SCHEDULED TO TAKE PLACE AT THREE P.M.UNTIL THE CITY COUNCIL RESUMES IN PERSON.
OK, I JUST NEED THAT CLARIFIED.
COUNCIL MEMBER COULD I JUST CLARIFY? ARE YOU SUGGESTING A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION WITH THE CHANGE TO PARAGRAPH FOUR TO CHANGE THE TIME FROM FOUR TO FIVE OR ARE YOU THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU WEREN'T DOING IT IN TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
I WANT TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH YOU ALL.
WAS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? YES, SECOND.
OK, COULD THE CLERK PLEASE CALL ROLL.
SO ITEM FOUR ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY MOVING ON FOR ORDINANCES FOR
[5. ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NO. CS-406 – LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM UPDATE]
ADOPTION.ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE NUMBER CS-406 THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM UPDATE.
AND SO DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS BEFORE I GIVE IT TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW OR RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY.
KRIS WRIGHT, CAN YOU PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF? THANK YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBERS, BHAT-PATEL AND ACOSTA FOR THEIR NO VOTE LAST WEEK.
IT IS RARE THAT THE PUBLIC GETS A CHANCE TO CLARIFY A COMMENT GIVEN THE WEEK PRIOR LAST WEEK WITH REGARD TO THE LCP.
I STATED THAT MEASURE A WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE LCP COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
THE REJECTION OF THE [INAUDIBLE] SPECIFIC PLAN ALIGNS WITH OUR CORE COMMUNITY VALUES IN THE GENERAL PLAN.
AND ALTHOUGH A SMALL COMMUNITY OUTREACH WAS PERFORMED FOR THE UPDATE TO THE GENERAL PLAN, IT IS NOW BEING USED FOR THIS LCP DRAFT DOCUMENT.
SOME OF THIS OUTREACH, HAVING BEEN DONE IN 2009 OVER A DECADE BEFORE I MAINTAIN THAT THE OUTREACH WAS NOT ENOUGH.
MEASURE A IS THE MOST RECENT AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OVERALL.
AS A LONGTIME RESIDENT, I VOTED FOR PROP D AND THE OPEN SPACE THAT IS GUARANTEED ON THE SOUTH SHORE AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON.
WITH THAT, THE 48 ACRES WITHIN WAS SET UP TO HAVE A LAND USE OF TR TRAVEL RECREATION COMMERCIAL.
THE USES FOR THAT DESIGNATION ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE TERM VISITOR COMMERCIAL.
PROPOSED BY THIS UPDATE TO THE LCP, I HAVE A MEMO DATED APRIL 2016 THAT STATES THAT V.C.
VISITOR COMMERCIAL IS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN TR.
THIS DOCUMENT AN INTERNAL MEMO FROM MS. [INAUDIBLE] TO THE CITY MANAGER, KEN CRAWFORD, STATES QUOTE RESIDENTIAL USES MAY BE PERMITTED IN THE VC DESIGNATION UNQUOTE, AND ON PAGE TWO ADDITIONAL USES BEYOND TR DESIGNATION WERE PROPOSED, SUCH AS QUOTE, AMUSEMENT PARKS, CINEMAS AND A MALL UNQUOTE.
ALTHOUGH THE UPDATE TO THE GENERAL PLAN APPROVED, THE VC DESIGNATION IT IS A TERM INVENTED BY THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO ALLOW OTHER USES.
THIS MEMO STATES THAT QUOTE SHOPPING NEEDS OF VISITORS HAS EXPANDED FROM THE USES TRADITIONALLY THOUGHT OF AS VISITOR SERVING UNQUOTE.
THIS DESIGNATION WAS IN ANTICIPATION OF A CARUSO MALL, WHICH OF COURSE, WAS DEFEATED.
AND AS OPEN SPACE IS ONE OF OUR CITY'S CORE VALUES, I ALSO MUST POINT OUT THAT THE POWER PLANT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY LISTED AS OPEN SPACE V.C.
ALTHOUGH PART OF THE AGUA HEDIONDA SEGMENT, THAT PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED AS VISITORS COMMERCIAL BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
THE USE IS PROPOSED BY THIS LCP AS STATED, INCLUDE HOTELS, WHICH OF COURSE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT USES APPROVED BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
THE DRAFT LCP STATES THERE IS ADDITIONAL NEED FOR HOTEL ROOMS. ALSO STATED IS THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS THE SECOND HIGHEST NUMBER OF HOTEL ROOMS IN THE COUNTY, SECOND TO THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
WHY BUILD MORE HOTELS ON A SITE WHICH CAN BE USED AS OPEN SPACE FOR OUR OWN COMMUNITY? OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE THE GREATEST SOURCE OF INCOME FOR THE CITY, AND SINCE THAT PROPERTY WAS OBTAINED WITH A DEAL WITH SDGE NRG, WHY NOT ALLOW AN ADVISORY PUBLIC VOTE TO DETERMINE THE USE? THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS, MAYOR.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING A LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT CONSISTING OF A ZONE CHANGE AND AMENDMENTS
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TO THE POINSETTIA SHORES MASTER PLAN AND VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM LAND USE PLAN UPDATE.MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION SORRY MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT I EXPLAINED AT THE COUNCIL MEETING LAST TIME, I WON'T BE VOTING TO SUPPORT THIS.
SAME HERE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS ON THE RECORD AS TO THE SAME REASONS THAT I MENTIONED DURING MY VOTE LAST WEEK THAT I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS AS WELL.
COULD THE CLERK PLEASE CALL ROLL.
[6. CITY OF CARLSBAD PERMITS NEEDED FOR THE INNS AT BUENA VISTA CREEK, A NEW HOTEL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT LOCATED IN THE CITY OF OCEANSIDE]
NO.IS THE CITY COUNCIL PERMITS NEEDED FOR THE INNS AT BUENA VISTA CREEK IN A NEW HOTEL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT LOCATED IN THE CITY OF OCEANSIDE? AND I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO MR. CHADWICK TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTIONS.
THANK YOU, SIR, AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR SENIOR PLANNER, MR. JASON GOFF.
MR. CHADWICK, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN WITH YOU.
WE ARE TRYING TO SWAP SCREENS.
I GUESS I'LL GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION MODE.
ARE YOU SEEING THE SCREEN BY CHANCE? YES, WE ARE.
THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS KNOWN AS THE INNS AT BUENA VISTA CREEK.
IT IS SLIGHTLY UNIQUE IN THAT IT IS SPANNING BOTH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND OCEANSIDE, THE CITY'S JURISDICTION OF BOTH.
THIS PROJECT INVOLVES THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 12.5 ACRE SITE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF STATE ROUTE 78 AND JEFFERSON STREET.
THE SOLID RED LINE SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS THE CITY LIMIT LINE FOR BOTH CITIES.
THE DASHED YELLOW LINE REPRESENTS THE PROJECT PROPERTY BOUNDARIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD PURVIEW.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES THREE HOTEL BUILDINGS TOTALING ROUGHLY THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX ROOMS. ALSO INCLUDED IS A ONE STORY, FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT PAVILION BUILDING A FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO SPACE, FOUR STORY PARKING STRUCTURE AND A THREE LANE BRIDGE THAT WILL SPAN BUENA VISTA CREEK, CONNECTING AT THE SHOPS AT CARLSBAD RING ROAD.
ALL OF THESE STRUCTURES ARE LOCATED IN OCEANSIDE AND WERE APPROVED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
THERE ARE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS BEFORE YOU TODAY WHICH DESIGNATE A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AS OPEN SPACE.
THE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S PORTION OF THE PROJECT ARE GENERALLY RELATED TO IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT ACCESS BOTH AT THE SHOPS AT CARLSBAD RING ROAD AND ALONG JEFFERSON STREET, UTILITY AND CREEK MAINTENANCE AND REALIGNMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS OF EXISTING SEWER AND STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. THE PROJECT ALSO INVOLVES THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT PROVIDING WATER SERVICES TO THE PROJECT SITE THROUGH A SEPARATE LAF CODE ANNEXATION RESTORATION AND WETLAND BUFFERING ALONG THE BUENA VISTA CREEK, INCLUDING A CHANGE IN LAND USE FOR A PORTION OF THE SITE, FROM COMMERCIAL TO OPEN SPACE AND MINOR GRADING WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE PROJECT WAS ANALYZED FOR CONSISTENCY WITH ALL RELEVANT AND REQUIRED CITY CODES AND STANDARDS, AND THAT THE STAFF REPORT ORDINANCE AS A RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TODAY CONTAIN ALL OF THE ANALYSIS AND FINDINGS TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT APPROVAL .
AT THE JULY 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING STAFF PRESENTED THE PROJECT, THE
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APPLICANT MADE THEIR PRESENTATION AND ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ASKED TO HAVE THEIR COMMENTS READ INTO THE RECORD? STAFF ADDRESSED THE QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THE ADEQUACY OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM COMPLIANCE.MORE SPECIFICALLY, CONCERNS WERE RAISED THAT THE CERTIFIED FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT DID NOT ADEQUATELY EVALUATE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
IN RESPONSE, STAFF NOTED THAT THE LEAD AGENCY THAT BEING THE CITY OF OCEANSIDE ALREADY CERTIFIED THE REPORT THAT ADDRESSES THE POTENTIAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION RELATED IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT AND, WHERE APPROPRIATE, RECOMMENDED MEASURES TO MITIGATE THOSE IMPACTS.
THE NOTICE OF DETERMINATION WAS FILED BY THE CITY OF OCEANSIDE ON AUGUST 3RD, 2020, AND THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WAS NEVER APPEALED.
NOR WAS IT CHALLENGED IN COURT.
AS LEAD AGENCY UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT OCEANSIDE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THE REQUIRED MITIGATION MEASURES RELATED TO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS ARE IMPLEMENTED.
IN ADDITION, CONCERNS WERE ALSO RAISED AT BOTH THE CITY OF OCEANSIDE AND CARLSBAD DID NOT ADEQUATELY EVALUATE COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAMS, WITH EMPHASIS ON THE HOTEL DEVELOPMENTS VISUAL IMPACTS ON THE BUENA VISTA LAGOON.
IN RESPONSE, IT WAS NOTED THAT DUE TO THE COMPLEXITIES ASSOCIATED WITH OVERLAPPING COASTAL JURISDICTIONS, BOTH CITIES AGREED TO HAVE THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION ISSUE A CONSOLIDATED COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT SUBSEQUENT TO EACH OF THE CITY'S ACTIONS ON THE PROJECT.
AND THROUGH THE CONSOLIDATED PERMIT, COMPLIANCE WITH THE VARIOUS LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAMS WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION, NOT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
FOLLOWING PLANNING COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS ON JULY 7TH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT, WITH FIVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION VOTING TO APPROVE AND TWO MEMBERS VOTING TO DENY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL ONE INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AMENDMENTS TO THE CITYWIDE AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM ZONING MAP TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS TO OPEN SPACE AND TWO ADOPT RESOLUTION APPROVING A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT.
MINOR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, FLOODPLAIN SPECIAL USE PERMIT, A HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN PERMIT AND MINOR SUBDIVISION FOR THE INNS OF BUENA VISTA CREEK PROJECT.
BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS CONTAINED THEREIN.
THESE DOCUMENTS ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE COUNCIL STAFF REPORT AS EXHIBITS ONE AND TWO.
THIS WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
I'D LIKE TO NOW POINT OUT THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY AND THEY DO WISH TO MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? LET'S LET THE APPLICANTS.
LET THE APPLICANT GO AHEAD AND HE CAN HAVE UP TO 10 MINUTES TO MAKE HIS PRESENTATION.
OK, THANK YOU, JASON, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR HALL, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER CHADWICK AND OTHER CITY STAFF, WE KNOW BASED ON YOUR DISCUSSION OF HAVING 10 MINUTES TO PRESENT AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.
WE HOPE TO DO OUR TAKE 12 YEARS OF EFFORTS AND WE WILL COMPRESS THAT TO LESS THAN 10 MINUTES FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SO I'D LIKE TO, IF I CAN SHARE OUR SCREEN WITH YOU IF THIS WORKS.
ALL RIGHT, CAN YOU SEE OUR SCREEN? YES, SIR.
AS I SAID, I WILL GO THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY AND THEN THE CEO, JIMMY HELIOPOLIS, WE'LL HAVE SOME CLOSING REMARKS.
BUT IN OUR VERY LIMITED TIME, WE WANT TO JUST COVER FOUR KEY POINTS A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE SITE.
THE WHOLE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH TO DEVELOP THE SITE AND BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE VIEWS OF THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT THAT CONFIGURATION IS MR. GOFF EXPLAINED THAT MORE GENERALLY AND THEN FINALLY, A QUICK SUMMARY OF PROJECT BENEFITS.
AND THEN WE'LL QUICKLY TURN IT OVER FOR BACK TO YOU FOR ANY COMMENTS.
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO OUR STAFF AND OUR TEAM, WHICH IS FULLY ASSEMBLED AND AVAILABLE FOR ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.
VERY BRIEFLY, IT HAS TAKEN US 12 YEARS TO GET TO THIS POINT, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF UPS AND DOWNS IN THAT IN THAT PERIOD.
I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR HOW MUCH EFFORT IS GOING INTO IT, BUT IT IS CONSIDERABLE CONSIDERING HAVING TO DEAL WITH BOTH CITIES, COASTAL COMMISSION AND A VARIETY OF OTHER ISSUES OF DEALING WITH DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, WHICH I'LL DESCRIBE IN A MINUTE.
WITH ALL THAT SAID, AND IT'S 12 YEARS OF EFFORT.
WHAT WE CONCLUDED AFTER EXTENSIVE COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM GOVERNMENT
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AGENCIES IS THAT WE CAME UP WITH A SERIES OF BENEFITS, WHICH I SUMMARIZED ON THE SLIDE HERE THAT WHAT IS OUR HOTEL PROPERTIES TO DO? CERTAINLY, WE WANT TO ENHANCE THE ECONOMIC VITALITY.TOURISM IS A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE CARLSBAD ECONOMY, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SUPPORT THAT.
WE ALSO WANT TO INTEGRATE WITH ALL THE EXISTING AND COMPATIBLE LAND USES AROUND US.
ALSO, THE PROJECT ITSELF TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO PEDESTRIANS AND THE NEARBY TRANSIT CENTER, WHICH IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN ALSO HIGHLIGHT THE BUENA VISTA CREEK, WHICH IS AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SUFFICIENT BUFFERING TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKS.
WE ALSO HAD VERY, VERY MANY SESSIONS WITH SOME OF THE NATIVE AMERICANS WHO COULD TELL US MORE ABOUT THE SITE, SO WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HONOR THAT IN THAT PROCESS.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, AMONG ALL THESE ELEMENTS IS FOR TO ENHANCE EFFORTS TO RESTORE THE BUENA VISTA CREEK AND HELP TO FACILITATE CREEK MAINTENANCE.
SO WITH THAT, JUST BRIEFLY, WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS MORE THAN 50 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS OF ONE KIND OR ANOTHER WITH NOT ONLY THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, BUT MANY LOCAL GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS.
AND SO WE VERY MUCH VALUE THEIR INPUT AND BELIEVE THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED OR ADDRESSED THEIR KEY CONCERNS.
LET ME JUST VERY BRIEFLY EMBELLISH WHAT JASON HAS SAID.
OUR SITE IS 12 AND A HALF ACRES AND IT STRADDLES BOTH OCEANSIDE AND CARLSBAD.
THE MAJORITY OF THE NINE POINT EIGHT ACRES IS IN OCEANSIDE, WITH TWO POINT SEVEN IN CARLSBAD.
THIS SITE HAS BEEN VACANT AND DEGRADED FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS.
WE'RE NOT SURE OF IT'S ENTIRE HISTORY, BUT IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS SITE, YOU'LL NOTE HOW DEGRADED IT IS.
ITS NATIVE VEGETATION IS ALL GONE, AND IT'S BASICALLY QUITE A MESS CURRENTLY.
IN OUR PROPOSAL THERE ARE NO STRUCTURES ON THE CARLSBAD SIDE OF THE BOUNDARY.
WITH THAT VERY BRIEFLY, AGAIN, EMBELLISHING ON WHAT JASON SAID, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THREE HOTELS, WHICH INCLUDE AN EMBASSY SUITES, A HAMPTON INN AND A HOMEWOOD SUITES.
THOSE SERVE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THE MARKET, FROM OVERNIGHT STAYS TO EXTENDED STAYS AND SO ON A VARIETY OF FOR BUSINESS AND LEISURE USES.
WE ALSO, BECAUSE OF THE COMPRESSION ON THE SITE, HAD TO BUILD A PROPOSED PARKING STRUCTURE WITH FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO STALLS IN THERE.
BUT WE'RE ALSO MADE VERY POSITIVE STEPS TO INCREASE FLOOD PROTECTION AND RESTORE THE NATIVE VEGETATION AND AS WELL PROVIDE TRAIL ACCESS FOR THE FUTURE.
WITH ALL THAT SAID, THIS IS WHAT OUR SITE LOOKS LIKE.
WE HAVE THE THREE HOTELS THE EMBASSY SUITES, THE HAMPTON AND THE HOMEWOOD AND THE CREEK IS PROTECTED WITH MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER FROM THE CREEK.
SO WITH WORKING WITH ALL THE VARIOUS AGENCIES, WHILE WE ORIGINALLY WERE ONLY REQUIRED TO DO 25 FEET, WE EXTENDED IT TO ONE HUNDRED FEET SO THAT COMPRESSED THE SITES SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE USING THAT SITE AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
WITH ALL THAT SAID, BASICALLY WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE PRODUCED A PROJECT THAT MEETS ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF SERVING THE LOCAL ECONOMY PROVIDING JOBS AND TOURISM INVOLVED A LOT OF HABITAT RESTORATION AND ENHANCING OPEN SPACE IN THE REGION.
AND THEN, AS GEORGE [INAUDIBLE] FROM HILTON, CAN TELL YOU, WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE HOTEL OPERATIONS ONCE THE PROJECT IS UNDERWAY AND ALSO AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF OF EFFORT AND A LOT OF INTENSIVE STUDIES, WE FOUND THAT OUR SITE WILL ACTUALLY IMPROVE AND MITIGATE THE PROSPECTS OF FLOODING TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO THAT IS A VERY BIG POSITIVE AS WELL AS WE'RE ADDING PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY FROM OUR SITE TO THE ADJOINING MALL AND TO THE TRANSIT CENTER.
WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO CEO JIMMY HELIOPOLIS, AND HE'LL HAVE A FEW CLOSING REMARKS.
AND THEN WE HAVE ALL OUR PROJECT TEAM HERE ASSEMBLED FOR YOU OR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
SO WITH THAT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND TURN IT OVER TO JIMMY.
BEFORE WE TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FEW BRIEF CLOSING COMMENTS.
FIRST, AFTER 12 YEARS OF EFFORT, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND ITS WONDERFUL STAFF FOR MAKING MANY SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A PROJECT.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE TAKEN TIME TO REVIEW OUR
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PLANS AND MAKE MANY VALUABLE SUGGESTIONS.I BELIEVE OUR PROJECT WILL BE A VALUABLE ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT TOURISM BUSINESS AND THE NEEDS OF THE CARLSBAD RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE ALSO TAKEN EVERY EFFORT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND INCORPORATE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT REDUCE FLOOD RISKS TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
I'M VERY PROUD OF THE PROFESSIONALISM OF OUR TEAM AND ALL THEY HAVE DONE TO MAKE THE INNS OF BUENA VISTA CREEK AN OUTSTANDING ADDITION TO THE CITY.
FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I BELIEVE THE PROJECT IS IN ITS BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
AS SHOWN ON THE SLIDE ALL OUR TEAM MEMBERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
ANYTHING ELSE, BARRY? NO, I THINK THAT SAID, WE'RE READY FOR QUESTIONS.
WELL, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR JUST TAKING EIGHT MINUTES.
OK WITH THAT CITY CLERK COULD WE SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
YES, MAYOR AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER SIX PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND NOW OR PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY IF YOU'RE JOINING US BY PHONE.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS BORIS PRESLEY.
CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE? GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS BORIS PRESLEY, AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CARPENTERS CONTRACTORS COOPERATION COMMITTEE.
WE ARE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION COMMITTED TO THE CREATION OF GOOD PAYING JOBS, FAIR COMPETITION AND HIGH QUALITY CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
FORMED IN 1987, WE HAVE COLLABORATED WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL CIVIL AND CRIMINAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO CRACK DOWN ON UNLAWFUL BUSINESS PRACTICES THAT HURT RESPONSIBLE CONTRACTORS, WORKERS AND COMMUNITIES.
AS THE CITY PREPARES TO TAKE ACTION ON THE PROPOSED INNS AT BUENA VISTA CREEK PROJECT.
TODAY, I HOPE TO ILLUMINATE THE CITY ABOUT THE REALITIES FACING CONSTRUCTION WORKERS IN CARLSBAD.
IN OUR DAY TO DAY WE COME ACROSS DAILY EXAMPLES OF WORKER ABUSE AND SEE THE EMOTIONAL FINANCIAL TOLL IT TAKES ON THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
WE SEE WORKERS BEING PAID FOR A UNIT OF PRODUCTION, USUALLY BY THE SQUARE FOOT OR THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS, RATHER THAN AN HOURLY RATE.
WE SEE WORKERS SHARING AND DIVIDING CHECKS AMONG THEMSELVES IN ORDER TO PAY LABOR TRAFFICKERS.
WE SEE WORKERS HAVING TO DEAL WITH BOUNCED CHECKS AND A LACK OF REST AND MEAL BREAKS.
NOT TOO LONG AGO, THE LABOR COMMISSIONER ACTUALLY ISSUED 17 WAGE CITATIONS, TOTALING ONE POINT THREE MILLION AGAINST THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR TROON ITS SUBCONTRACTORS AND LABOR BROKERS ON THE HOME TO SUITES BY HILTON PROJECT HERE IN CARLSBAD.
THE LABOR COMMISSIONER FOUND ISSUES REGARDING NONPAYMENT OF WAGES, FAILURE TO PROVIDE WORKERS COMP, NONPAYMENT OF OVERTIME AND MISCLASSIFICATION OF INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS.
THESE UNLAWFUL ACTIVITIES THREATENED THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND HAS A NEGATIVE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON US ALL.
A NEW UC BERKELEY STUDY THE PUBLIC COST OF LOW WAGE JOBS IN CALIFORNIA'S CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY HAS NOTED THAT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF WORKERS ARE VULNERABLE TO WAGE THEFT MISCLASSIFICATION AND INCOMPLETE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE BENEFITS.
AS A RESULT, MANY CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE FORCED TO BECOME ENROLLED IN GOVERNMENT SAFETY NET PROGRAMS TO MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS, LIKE MEDICAL COVERAGE AND FOOD STAMPS.
BASICALLY, WE ARE ALL SUBSIDIZING THE NEGATIVE BUSINESS PRACTICES OF BAD ACTORS.
THERE'S LOTS OF MONEY THAT COULD BE SPENT ON EDUCATION, INFRASTRUCTURE OR PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE NEITHER SUPPORT NOR OPPOSE THIS PROJECT, BUT JUST HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL LOOKS AT POSSIBLE SAFEGUARDS TO MAKE SURE WORKERS BUILDING THESE PROJECTS ARE TREATED FAIRLY WITH DIGNITY AND THAT THE CITY SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE CONTRACTING PRACTICES IN ORDER TO CREATE GOOD LOCAL CAREERS THAT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE PROJECT, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE QUESTION IS THE GENTLEMAN DURING THE PRESENTATION STATED THAT AS OF NOW THEY'RE NOT PLANNING TO BUILD BUILDINGS ON THAT SITE THAT'S IN CARLSBAD.
IS IT APPROVED FOR FUTURE BUILDING AND OR CAN THEY APPLY IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE BUILDINGS BUILT IN THAT SITE THAT'S IN CARLSBAD? THANK YOU.
BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO THE COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS, COULD SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THE SPEAKER'S QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE USE OF THE LAND THAT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
MAYOR, I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THE PORTION OF LAND THAT'S TO THE SOUTH
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OF THE HOTEL BUILDINGS IS BEING CHANGED TO OPEN SPACE AS PART OF THE OPEN SPACE BUFFER FROM THE CREEK, SO IT WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS OPEN SPACE.WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY JUST FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT HOW MUCH OF THIS I GUESS THIS IS FOR MR. GOFF.
HOW MUCH OF THIS PROJECT, THE BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY IN CARLSBAD BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY BUILDINGS IN CARLSBAD.
THERE ARE NO BUILDINGS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
SO THIS VOTING TO APPROVE THIS WOULD CHANGE THE DESIGNATION TO OPEN SPACE AND WOULD NOT AUTHORIZE OR WOULD NOT.
THIS WOULD NOT BE PART OF ANY PROJECT THAT WOULD HAVE BUILDINGS ON THE CARLSBAD SIDE.
JUST HOPE THAT EVERYBODY IS CLEAR ON THAT.
OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, MR. NORBY.
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I THINK I'LL ASK AND ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION.
I'M ASSUMING WE'RE NOT GETTING TWENTY NINE PERCENT OF THE TOT THAT'S GOING TO BE GENERATED ON THAT SITE, EVEN THOUGH TWO POINT NINE ACRES ARE IN CARLSBAD.
BUT MY REAL QUESTION IS, AS THE CREEK KIND OF SEPARATES THE PARCELS, IF YOU WILL, A LITTLE BIT ACROSS THAT LITTLE BIT IN OCEANSIDE AND CREEK RESTORATION IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.
WHAT HOW WOULD YOU AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF.
HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE CREEK RESTORATION ON THE OCEANSIDE SIDE OF THE CREEK AND THE CARLSBAD SIDE OF THE CREEK IS IT EQUAL? OR IS IT ONLY HAPPENING ON THE OCEANSIDE SIDE OF THE CREEK? THE RESTORATION IS OCCURRING IN BOTH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND OCEANSIDE, OCEANSIDE DOES HAVE A DRAFT HMP THAT THEY DID FOLLOW, AS WELL AS OUR CITIES HMP AS IT RELATES TO THE BUFFER RESTORATION.
OK, SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR WHEN THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED AND I'M DRIVING ON THAT ALL RING ROAD FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
AND I LOOK AT THAT CREEK, I'M GOING TO BE AS EQUALLY PROUD OF THE CARLSBAD SIDE AS I AM THE OCEANSIDE SIDE.
THAT WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.
DUDEK IS HERE TONIGHT AND CAN ANSWER THAT MORE DETAIL IF YOU IF YOU'D LIKE SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT.
AND JUST ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO MR. NORBY.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE RESTORATION OF THE CREEK AND WHO HAS HAS RESPONSIVE.
WHO ARE THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE CREEK? MAYOR, I CAN ANSWER THAT, I GUESS.
THE CONTINUED MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS OF OF KEEPING THE CREEK CLEARED WOULD BE WOULD BE STILL WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS IT'S CURRENTLY OUTLINED WITH THE IR THAT IS IS APPROVED FOR THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HOW ABOUT COMMENTS, ANY FINAL COMMENTS? MR. NORBY.
AND REALLY, I WAS REALLY GRATEFUL TO HEAR THAT ANSWER, I THINK AS A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD AND USER OF THAT PROPERTY.
IT'S JUST BEEN AN EYESORE FOR ME AND A BIG QUESTION.
I THINK THE GREATEST ASSET OF THAT WHOLE PROPERTY IS THE CREEK, AND WE'VE KIND OF TURNED OUR BACK ON THAT CREEK AND PRETEND IT'S NOT THERE.
SO I'M I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT, FIRST OF ALL, THE PROPERTY CHANGING TO OPEN SPACE, BUT EVEN MORE SO HAVING THAT CREEK BECOME A POINT OF PRIDE RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TURNING OUR BACK TOWARDS.
SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND I CAN SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
ANY, ANYONE ELSE LIKE IN WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT? YES.
I'M SORRY, MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALSO, THANK YOU.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YES, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME.
I HAD HEARD ABOUT IT WAY BEFORE I GOT ON THE COUNCIL AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS WILL INCLUDE A LOT OF POSITIVE RESTORATION AND SIMILAR TO COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY'S COMMENTS.
I THINK THAT IT'S A BIT OF AN EYESORE AND IT WILL BE MUCH IMPROVED AFTER THIS.
ANYONE ELSE? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ALSO, THANK YOU FOR THIS PROJECT.
OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO HAVE THE THE HOTELS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
BUT EVEN WITH THAT SAID, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, THE FACT THAT RIGHT ACROSS THAT BRIDGE, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO ONE OF THE BEST FACILITIES IN
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ALL OF NORTH COUNTY THAT HAS NOT ONLY RESTAURANTS, THE RETAIL, YOU KNOW, THE THEATER.SO I SEE THESE TWO PROJECTS REALLY WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH ONE ANOTHER AND IT REALLY BECOMING A WIN WIN SITUATION.
AND I ALSO LIKE TO ECHO MR. NORBY AND THAT CREEK.
AND YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, I'VE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT MANY, MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO HOW WE COULD FURTHER ENHANCE THE THE CREEK AND WHAT IT COULD BE.
THE POSSIBILITIES OF THAT CREEK ARE ENDLESS AND WHAT IT COULD COULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW IT COULD BE AN ASSET ON BOTH SIDES WITH TRAILS AND WHATNOT, PLUS A CONTINUED ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
SO I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT ALSO.
SO WITH THAT MS. BREWER, IF YOU WANT TO TITLE THE ORDINANCE, THANK YOU.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES BOTH AN ORDINANCE AND A RESOLUTION.
I'LL TITLE THE ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING AMENDMENTS TO THE CITYWIDE ZONING AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM ZONING MAPS TO MODIFY THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS ON A TWO POINT SIX SIX ACRE PARCEL TO ALLOW A ZONE CHANGE FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL C2 TO OPEN SPACE OS AND A LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM ZONE CHANGE FROM GENERAL COMMERCIALC2 TO OPEN SPACE OS TO CORRESPOND WITH THE PROPOSED WETLAND BUFFER HABITAT RESTORATION AREA FOR AN APPROVED HOTEL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN THE CITY OF OCEANSIDE ALONG CARLSBAD'S NORTHERN BORDER, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF STATE ROUTE 78 AND EAST OF JEFFERSON STREET WITHIN THE MELLOW TWO SEGMENT OF THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AND LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT ZONE ONE.
MOVE INTRODUCTION TO THE ORDINANCE AND MOVE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION BOTH CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.
COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL, AYE.
THIS ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, SO MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN, AN AGREEMENT AND
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DESIGN REVIEW CHARTER FOR THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTERPLAN, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AND STREAMLINING THE PERMIT PROCESS.WITH THAT, I THINK MS. BREWER IS GOING TO ASK ME TO STEP DOWN.
NOW WE COULD CONTINUE THIS TO THE LAST AGENDA ITEM AND TAKE IT THEN.
BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S EASIER FOR ME JUST TO STEP DOWN AND COME BACK WHEN, WHEN, AFTER YOU'VE HEARD THIS ITEM.
SO AND MAYBE AT THAT TIME, MR. BLACKBURN WOULD WANT TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK OR SOMETHING.
IT'D BE PROBABLY ABOUT 5 O'CLOCK WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
SO I'M GOING TO EXCUSE MYSELF AT THIS TIME.
IF YOU COULD JUST STATE THE NATURE OF YOUR CONFLICT BASED ON, OH YES, I'M SORRY, I DO OWN PROPERTY IN THE NOTICED AREA.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CITY MANAGER, WILL YOU MAKE THE INTRODUCTIONS, PLEASE? AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION IS OUR ASSOCIATE PLANNER, SHELLEY GLENNON, SHELLEY.
[INAUDIBLE] CAN YOU SEE THE SLIDESHOW? NO, WE CAN'T.
AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL, SHELLEY GLENNON, ASSOCIATE [INAUDIBLE].
FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION, STAFF WILL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, AS WELL AS FUNDING THAT PROJECT STAFF WILL THEN DISCUSS THE PROPOSED PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH [INAUDIBLE] THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AND STREAMLINED PERMITTING
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PROCESS APPLIES ONLY TO MULTIFAMILY HOUSING PROJECTS IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN AREA [INAUDIBLE] THE GOVERNOR SIGNED MULTIPLE HOUSING GOALS [INAUDIBLE].ADDITIONAL BILLS AND REGULATIONS CONTINUE TO FALL [INAUDIBLE].
IN DECEMBER OF 2019 [INAUDIBLE] HEY SHELLEY.
YES, I'M SORRY, I'D LIKE TO INTERRUPT.
IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME HEARING, SHELLEY? [INAUDIBLE] SEE SOME AUDIO CHALLENGES.
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? IT'S REALLY MUFFLED.
HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? SO MUCH BETTER.
IN DECEMBER 2019, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO FORM AN AD HOC DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT WOULD WORK WITH A CONSULTANT ON OBJECTIVE SIGN STANDARDS FOR THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN AREA.
THE INTENT OF THE PROJECT IS TO CONVERT ONLY EXISTING DESIGN STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES, WHICH ARE SUBJECTIVE AND OPEN TO INTERPRETATION INTO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE CLEARLY DEFINED AND INVOLVE NO PERSONAL OR SUBJECTIVE JUDGMENT BY A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.
THIS PROJECT IS NOT INTENDED TO CHANGE ANY OF THE EXISTING OBJECTIVE STANDARDS, SUCH AS HEIGHT OR SETBACK RESTRICTIONS.
IN JANUARY, 2021 CITY COUNCIL APPROVED APPLICATIONS MIDDLE OF THE STATE'S LOCAL EARLY ACTION PLANNING GRANT, ALSO KNOWN AS THE LEAP GRANT, TO FUND PROJECTS THAT EXPEDITE HOUSING PRODUCTION, INCLUDING THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.
IN THE FOLLOWING JUNE, THE STATE AWARDED THE GRANT FUNDS TO THE CITY FOR THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THIS PAST JULY, THE CITY UPDATED THE GENERAL PLAN HOUSING ELEMENT TO INCLUDE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF HOUSING PROGRAM ONE POINT ELEVEN FOR THE PREPARATION OF OBJECT DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING PROJECTS.
THEREFORE, IMPLEMENTING THIS PROJECT WILL COMPLY WITH BOTH STATE AND CITY MANDATES AND WILL BE FULLY FUNDED THROUGH THE STATE'S LEAP GRANT PROGRAM.
FUNDING RECEIVED THROUGH THE STATE'S LEAP GRANT PROGRAM WILL OCCUR THROUGH A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND STATE AND THEREFORE IS REQUIRED TO BE APPROPRIATED IN THE STATE COUNCIL GENERAL FUND TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
THERE ARE THREE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE FUNDED UNDER LEAP GRANT [INAUDIBLE] ABOVE THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WILL BE FUNDED FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND PURSUANT TO THE GRANT TERM, MUST BE COMPLETED NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
THE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND GRANT AWARD WILL BE USED TO FUND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO PREPARE THE PROJECT THROUGH THE CITY'S CONSULTANTS SELECTION PROCESS.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AVRP STUDIOS TO PREPARE THE PROJECT DOCUMENTS AS THEY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IN PREPARING SIMILAR STANDARDS FOR OTHER JURISDICTIONS, SUCH AS THE CITY OF [INAUDIBLE] AND THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
THE PROJECT SCOPE OF WORK ATTACHED TO THE DRAFT PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT INCLUDES FOUR TASKS AS LISTED HERE.
THESE TASKS WERE ALSO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE STATE UNDER THE LEAP GRANT APPLICATION.
AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO FORM A DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WHOSE MISSION IS TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE DRAFT OBJECTIVES DESIGN STANDARDS, INCLUDING A POTENTIAL PALETTE OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STYLES, TO ENSURE THAT THESE STANDARDS REFLECT THE COMMUNITY'S VALUES, AS PROVIDED IN THE DRAFT CHARTER.
THE COMMITTEE WILL MEET APPROXIMATELY THREE TIMES WITHIN A ONE YEAR TIME FRAME.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A SEVEN MEMBER COMMITTEE THAT WILL BE COMPOSED OF TWO COMMISSIONERS, ONE PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND ONE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSIONER.
TWO RESIDENTS, ONE BUSINESS OWNER AND TWO PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS IN MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
THE COMPOSITION OF THE COMMITTEE PROVIDES FOR ADEQUATE REPRESENTATION AND PERSPECTIVES NEEDED FOR THE SPECIFIC AND TECHNICAL TASK OF REVIEWING OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND MIXED USE PROJECTS WITHIN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN AREA.
ALSO, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WHILE THERE ARE ONLY TWO RESIDENTS IDENTIFIED, THE BUSINESS OWNER, AS WELL AS THE TWO PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS, CAN ALSO BE RESIDENTS OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO.
THE PROPOSED APPOINTMENT PROCESS WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS FOR OTHER COMMITTEES RECENTLY FORMED.
THE MAYOR PRO TEM WILL CONFIRM THE COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDATIONS AND WILL
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RECOMMEND THE TWO PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS.THE DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL RECOMMEND THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO RESIDENT REPRESENTATIVES AND BUSINESS OWNER REPRESENTATIVE SINCE THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN DISTRICT ONE AND THE FULL CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON ALL THE CITIZEN COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVES APPOINTMENTS.
LASTLY, THE CHARTER ALSO INCLUDES OTHER RULES AND PROCEDURES, INCLUDING THOSE RELATED TO RUNNING THE OPEN COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THE ROLES OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
STAFF RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL WILL ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH AVRP STUDIOS TO PROVIDE TO PREPARE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, A CHARTER FOR A DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AND TO APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDING IN AMOUNT OF ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE GENERAL FUND.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW OR RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY.
THE FIRST [INAUDIBLE] IS THE CALLER ENDING WITH -1681.
WILL YOU PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? HI, THIS IS KATIE TAYLOR, AND I'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT AVRP STUDIOS, AND THEY'RE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY THE ONE THEY SHOW FOR CARLSBAD VILLAGE CENTER, AND THEY CLAIM THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE CENTERS OVER 10000 SQUARE FEET OF PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE LINKING CARL DOUGLAS DRIVE AND GRAND AVENUE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET WINDING CARL BEVERLY DRIVE 140 UNITS, 248 PARKING SPACES.
THEY CLAIM THEIR DESIGN COMPLEMENTS CARLSBAD STYLE, AND THAT'S THE GATEWAY TO CARLSBAD VILLAGE.
THE DESIGN IS A UGLY BIG BOX, JUST ANOTHER BIG, UGLY BIG BOX FOR DOWNTOWN WITHOUT ADEQUATE PARKING.
BASED ON CALIFORNIA'S STATE MANDATES AND NO PUSHBACK, LAWSUITS FROM THE CITY OF CARLSBAD OR ANY OTHER CITIES TO MAINTAIN ZONING INTEGRITY SEEMS THE ERA OF BIG BOX CONSTRUCTION DOOMING THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO IS HERE.
I QUESTION WHY A COMPANY LIKE AVRP STUDIOS WAS SELECTED TO INSURE MORE BIG BOX DESIGN.
AT MINIMUM, I SUGGEST THE NAME OF THE AVRP STUDIOS PROJECT NAME BE CHANGED AND THE WORD VILLAGE REMOVED.
PERHAPS IT'S TIME FOR CARL BEVERLY DRIVE HAS A NAME CHANGE TOO THE DOWNTOWN VILLAGE AND BARRIO ATMOSPHERE ARE BEING DECIMATED, BRINGING A WHOLE NEW MEANING TO BIG BOX IN CARLSBAD.
MAYBE GO BACK TO ELM, AT LEAST A NAME THAT IS HONEST AND WILL BRING BACK GOOD MEMORIES TO THOSE WHO LOVE CARLSBAD AND ARE APPALLED AT THE DENSITY AND THE CONSTRUCTION DESIGN NOW PROGRAMED AND SHOVED DOWN RESIDENTS OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO.
ANOTHER COMMITTEE WITHOUT ADEQUATE PUBLIC INPUT SOUNDS LIKE MORE BAD DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE BIG-BOX BUILDINGS, ADDING NOTHING TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OR BEAUTY FOR THE VILLAGE, BARRIO AND CARLSBAD RESIDENTS.
I DO NOT APPROVE THIS COMMITTEE GOING FORWARD.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS [INAUDIBLE] CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE? THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ONE IS WE ONLY HAVE ONE RESIDENT FROM THE BARRIO.
ONE RESIDENT FROM THE VILLAGE.
IT SEEMS TO ME WE NEED TWO OR THREE AND IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHICH IS PEDER NORBY.
AND I DON'T HAVE GOOD MEMORIES FROM SOME OF THE MEETING.
BARRIO STRONG MEETINGS HELD BY MR. NORBY OR DEBBIE FOUNTAIN WHEN WE WERE TOLD INFORMATION WOULD BE PASSED UP AND IT NEVER WAS.
YOU HAD ON THE DISPLAY MONEY FOR ADU PROGRAMS. IF A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE WANTS TO FALL ON THAT PROGRAM AND WANTS TO BUILD AN ADU, IS THAT NOW CONSIDERED MULTIFAMILY HOUSING? THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CALLER ENDING WITH -9751.
WILL YOU PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF.
MY NAME'S TRACEY CARMICHAEL, AND I WAS READING THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM AND I HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS.
ONE WHY WOULD THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE BE ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO REVIEWING THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN? WOULDN'T YOU WANT MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT? THE SECOND ONE IS WHY IS THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE FOCUSED ON JUST THE VILLAGE
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AND THE BARRIO WHEN IN YOUR SHOP REPORT ON PAGE TWO, THE FIRST PARAGRAPH SAYS SIMILAR OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE BEING DEVELOPED TO BE APPLIED TO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTERPLAN AREA, AS AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 19, 2021.SO WILL OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY BE EXCLUDED BY BE EXCLUDED FROM MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND MULTI-USE DEVELOPMENT? COULDN'T THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD INCLUDE EVERYONE IN THE CITY AND WE JUST GET IT ALL DONE AT ONCE? SIMILARLY TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, AND THIS ONE AS WELL IS THE LEAP REIMBURSEMENT AND THE DELAY ON THE REIMBURSEMENT OF THE FUNDING INDICATED ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, BUT IT DOESN'T ON THIS ONE IS WHEN THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THE FUNDING OF A HUNDRED SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
WILL THAT BE AS WELL AND WILL THAT BE IN 2023? WILL THAT BE ANOTHER ITEM FOR QUESTION OF? DEFICIT SPENDING AND IS THIS ALREADY BUDGETED? THE LAST QUESTION IS, DOES THIS REALLY INCLUDE DIVERSITY, INCLUSION AND EQUITY THROUGHOUT OUR WHOLE CITY AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AND FOCUSING ON JUST DISTRICT ONE, IS THERE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS COMMITTEE? I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.
OK, COULD STAFF JUST TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AND ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS BY THE CALLERS.
WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.
I CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE ANY ASSISTANCE FROM.
MS. GLENNON AND MR. [INAUDIBLE], I THINK MS. TAYLOR EXPRESSED SORT OF HER DISSATISFACTION WITH SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE IN THE BOXY NATURE OF WHAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE VILLAGE RECENTLY.
AND YOU MAY RECALL MANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED OR HAVE BEEN RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED BASED ON THE OLD PLAN.
SO WE DO HAVE STANDARDS IN THE EXISTING PLAN THAT DEAL WITH BUILDING MASSING AS IT AS IT RELATES TO THE BUILDING HEIGHTS IN THE VILLAGE.
WHAT THIS PROJECT IS TRYING TO DO IS THEN TAKE A LOOK AT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES IN THE PLAN, WHICH ARE GUIDELINES AND WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATE THAT WE NEED TO APPLY OBJECTIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OR NEEDING TO MAKE GUIDELINES BASICALLY STANDARDS NOW.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE EMPHASIS OF THIS PROJECT.
WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF THINGS I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED IN SOME OF THE SPEAKER COMMENTS ABOUT STYLES OF ARCHITECTURE, SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THIS PROJECT ADDRESSES THROUGH THE VARIOUS FORMS OF INPUT.
WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THE, LET'S SEE, THE I THINK MS. CHILDS ASKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE RESIDENT MEMBERS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE PROPOSED COMPOSITION OF THE COMMITTEE OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADJUST THAT IN SOME WAY.
HER OTHER QUESTION REGARDING ADUS ON A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY DOES THAT PROPERTY GET CONSIDERED MULTIFAMILY? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE NO.
ADDING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME DOES NOT CHANGE ITS CLASSIFICATION TO A MULTIFAMILY UNIT IN REGARD TO SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS.
THE THE FOCUS ON THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO, I THINK AS YOU HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION, WE DO HAVE A PARALLEL PROJECT WITH A DIFFERENT FIRM ASSISTING US ON THAT PROJECT TO LOOK AT MULTIFAMILY OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CITY.
AND THE WAY THE REASON IT WAS BIFURCATED OR SPLIT INTO TWO PROJECTS IS THAT THERE WAS AN INTEREST ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL TO HAVE A SPECIAL FOCUS ON HOW THE VILLAGE WAS HANDLED AND PARTICULARLY THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
BUT AS YOU HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION, THIS EFFORT IS NOT TO CHANGE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LIKE HEIGHT, IT'S REALLY TO DEAL WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL AND OTHER DESIGN STANDARDS SO THAT IT PROVIDES CLEAR DIRECTION TO DESIGNERS AS WELL AS TO THE COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT COULD BE EXPECTED FOR THE FOR THE END PRODUCT.
SO WE AREN'T EXCLUDING OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE CITY BETWEEN THE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS.
THE ONE DIFFERENCE BEING THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED THAT THERE BE A SPECIAL COMMITTEE CONFIGURED OR COMPOSED TO ASSIST US WITH THIS EFFORT, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING AS PART OF THIS, THIS EFFORT TODAY.
AND THEN GENERALLY THE WAY THE STATE FUNDING HAS BEEN WORKING.
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SO WE DID RECEIVE GRANT APPROVAL.THIS WAS SIMILAR TO, I THINK THE APPROVALS WERE RECEIVED IN PREVIOUS GO AROUNDS.
AND SO WHAT WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THE CITY NEEDS TO PAY THE THE FEE TO THE CONSULTANT AS THEY FILL US IN INCREMENTAL PORTIONS.
AND THEN WHEN WE SUBMIT THOSE TO THE STATE, WE GET REIMBURSEMENT.
SO TYPICALLY IT HASN'T BEEN A CASE OF GETTING IT ALL AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, BUT THAT WE GET PAID ALONG THE WAY AS WE SUBMIT INVOICING.
I THINK THAT THAT HIT THE MAIN QUESTIONS THAT I COULD SEE COMING STAFF'S DIRECTION IF I MISSED ANYTHING.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS IT.
MAYOR PRO TEM, IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST RELATED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE GIVING ADVICE ABOUT THINGS WITHIN THEIR PROXIMITY OR WITHIN THEIR PROFESSION.
THERE IS AN EXCEPTION UNDER THE POLITICAL REFORM ACT FOR REPRESENTATIVE INTERESTS, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH A BUSINESS IN CARLSBAD AS LONG AS THEY'RE REPRESENTING ALL CARLSBAD BUSINESS HOLDERS PARTICIPATE IN THE INPUT ON THIS PROJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS AND I GOT TO SAY, DR.
BHAT-PATEL, YOU'RE NOT ON MY SCREEN, SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I'M SEEING NO QUESTIONS ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I HAVE QUESTIONS.
JUST WITH REGARDS TO THE THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT PROCESS, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU ALL CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT WOULD BE SYNONYMOUS TO HOW WE'VE DONE PAST COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS, WHERE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DISCUSSION WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE BEING CHOSEN? WHAT THAT WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE, LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY APPLIES AND THEN TO TO THE DAY OF APPOINTMENT.
HEY, COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL.
YES, SO THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS IS HANDLED BY THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
THEY PUT OUT A NOTICE FOR THE APPOINTMENTS AND STAFF CAN WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU REQUEST.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT WAS MORE SO JUST, YOU KNOW, AS AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT PREVIOUSLY AND DONE THIS PREVIOUSLY WITH OTHER COMMISSIONS OR COMMITTEES, I KNOW FOLKS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE IF THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO ANY OF US DURING OUR OFFICE HOURS.
SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW THEM AS WELL.
AND THEN ALSO SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT TALKING TO THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME DURING THEIR APPOINTMENT PROCESS FOR FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
HOWEVER, THE OTHER OTHER QUESTION THAT I JUST BRIEFLY HAD WAS WITH REGARDS TO SOMETHING THAT ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S POSSIBLY AN OPTION.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I'D LOVE TO HEAR.
SOME MORE THOUGHTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON WAS POTENTIALLY HAVING A, YOU KNOW, MORE RESONANT REPRESENTATION.
I KNOW THAT THE CONS OF HAVING A LARGER COMMITTEE MEANS THAT IT MAY BE A BIT MORE CUMBERSOME AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SCHEDULES, ET CETERA, AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET EVERYONE IN THE SAME ROOM AND MAKING DECISIONS, ET CETERA.
SO I WAS CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THOUGHTS WERE AROUND MAYBE HAVING ONE ONE EXTRA PERSON FROM THE VILLAGE AND THE BARRIO, WHAT FOLKS THOUGHTS WERE SINCE I KNOW THAT SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED THAT.
AND IF YOU HAD HEARD ANYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ESPECIALLY COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY, IF YOU'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO SEE MORE IN TERMS OF REPRESENTATION.
SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
CAN STAFF ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE INPUT AND HOW THAT WOULD LOOK FOR ADDING ONE FROM BARRIO AND ONE FROM VILLAGE? [INAUDIBLE] YOU HAD MENTIONED, WE ARE WILLING TO YES, CONSIDER THAT IF THAT'S WHAT STATE COUNCIL RECOMMENDS, STAFF RECOMMENDED SEVEN STAFF DID RECOMMEND THE COMMITTEE SIZE AND COMPOSITION AGAIN BASED ON.
THE CITY COUNCIL, THROUGH ACTION, COULD ADD ONE ADDITIONAL MEMBER, EACH ONE
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IN THE VILLAGE AND ONE IN THE BARRIO THAT WOULD BRING THE TOTAL COMMISSION TO A LITTLE BIT LARGER, BUT WE DO THINK THAT'S MANAGEABLE.I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT THE THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE BEFORE THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THIS IS NOT A CLOSED PROCESS.
SO THERE ARE THREE MEETINGS AND THE COMMUNITY IS OPEN TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AS WELL.
THANK YOU, DR. BHAT-PATEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA CONTEXT ADDED, I THINK MAKING SURE THAT IT'S AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS, AND THEN OF COURSE, IF THERE'S APPETITE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF EXTRA PEOPLE, GREAT IF IT'S NOT, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING TO MAKE A POINT OF IS THAT, HEY, FOLKS CAN DEFINITELY GO TO THE REPRESENTATIVE AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEIR VOICE IS BEING HEARD AND ALSO HOPEFULLY [INAUDIBLE] IN FOR THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL OR SHOWING UP TO THOSE MEETINGS AND SPEAKING AT THOSE MEETINGS SIMILAR TO A COUNCIL MEETING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS DECIDED WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS KNOW THAT YOU CAN DEFINITELY HAVE YOUR VOICE BE HEARD IN SOME CAPACITY.
MS. ACOSTA, YOU HAD A QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO TO COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL QUESTION ABOUT WHAT'S OUR TEMPERATURE ON ADDING THE ADDITIONAL BOARD MEMBER COMMISSION MEMBER AND I WOULD SAY I'M FULLY IN AGREEMENT.
I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND HAVE TALKED ABOUT OVER THIS THIS PAST YEAR WHEN PROJECTS COME TO US AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO RESTRICT THE LOOK OF A PROJECT MUCH, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THESE STANDARDS IN PLACE AND FORMING THESE STANDARDS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE VERY MUCH A PART OF.
AND I KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE IS A BIG, BOXY LOOK OF A BUILDING NEXT TO A CUTE, CHARMING, QUAINT, LITTLE EXISTING BUILDING.
AND THIS PROCESS BEING A PART OF THIS PROCESS WILL ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY WEIGH IN ON THAT.
SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT ADDING A COUPLE MORE POSITIONS, AS WE SAID, ONE TO BARRIO, ONE TO VILLAGE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL JUST MAKE AN OBSERVATION HERE.
THE ORIGINAL, I THINK SIZE OF THE COMMITTEE WAS SEVEN, AND WE WERE ASKING MYSELF AS A D1 COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE TO APPOINT THREE PEOPLE AND WITH ADDING TWO PEOPLE THAT WOULD TAKE IT TO NINE, BUT IT WOULD TAKE MY REQUIREMENT TO ADDING PEOPLE TO FIVE.
AND I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
QUITE FRANKLY, I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THREE, BUT HAVING FIVE OF THE NINE APPOINTED BY ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SEEMS TO BE.
WELL, I JUST BRING IT UP AS AN ISSUE.
HOWEVER, MY COLLEAGUES, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS, BUT I'M JUST BRINGING UP AS AN ISSUE FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY WOULD LIKE THAT MAKE UP.
I'M I'M HAPPY DOING IT WITH WITH COUNCIL'S INPUT IN TERMS OF BRINGING ME NAMES OR INDIVIDUALS THAT THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS OR WHATEVER THE CLERK'S OFFICE DECIDES AND CONSIDERING THEM.
BUT I'M JUST BRINGING UP AS AN ISSUE.
THERE'S THERE'S FIVE APPOINTMENTS BY ONE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THAT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT HEAVY ON THAT.
AND THEN I'LL SAY THAT'S JUST I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR COMMENTS, BUT THAT'S AN OBSERVATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY AND I DEFINITELY NOTICED AND READ THROUGH THE FULL COUNCIL APPROVAL IS REQUIRED FOR ALL APPOINTMENTS AND WAS REALLY LEANING ON THAT.
SO I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE KIND OF SCREENING.
BUT DR. BHAT-PATEL COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL BROUGHT UP THAT THE CURRENT COMMISSION APPOINTMENT PROCESS IS THAT THAT WE INVITE ALL APPLICANTS TO CALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN SO THAT WE CAN EACH KIND OF GET A FLAVOR OF WHO THEY ARE.
WE GET A CHANCE TO SEE ALL OF THEIR APPLICATIONS IN A BIG PACKET, SO WE GET A CHANCE TO KIND OF SORT THROUGH THEM AS WELL.
AND THEN THOSE KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE BY THE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER IN THIS CASE WOULD BE YOU AND AND THEN THE COUNCIL GETS A CHANCE TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE THOSE.
BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY OF DOING IT THAT MAKES YOU FEEL WELL, OR MAYBE JUST ALL OF THEM COME TO COUNCIL, AND IT'S NOT LIKE ONE PERSON DOING THE RECOMMENDING AND I I'M VERY OPEN TO THAT AS WELL.
JUST SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS CONTROL OF IT.
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I WAS FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL KIND OF LINE OF QUESTIONING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT AND GET TO KNOW WHO THESE APPLICANTS ARE IN ADVANCE OF VOTING ON THEM TO ADD THEM TO THIS COMMISSION.AND IF I MAY, MAYOR PRO TEM, OUR COUNCIL CHAMBER, JUST SO THAT YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF HOW IT WOULD LOOK IF THEY WERE AT THE DIAS IS CURRENTLY ONLY SET UP TO ALLOW UP TO SEVEN PEOPLE TO VOTE.
SO ANY MORE THAN THAT WOULD ALSO BE AN ISSUE AS FAR AS VOTING IN PERSON ELECTRONICALLY OR VIRTUALLY IS FINE, BUT IN PERSON THAT MIGHT POSE AN ISSUE.
THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AND A REMINDER OF DR BHAT-PATEL, YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE YOU ON MY SCREEN.
THERE'S ONE MORE QUESTION THEN RELATED TO MS. MEDINA'S COMMENT JUST NOW.
WOULD WE HAVE THAT CAPACITY IN FARADAY BUILDING OR SOME OTHER PLACE WHERE WE DO HAVE LARGER GROUPS THAT COME TOGETHER TO TO DISCUSS AND VOTE ON THINGS? THE FARADAY LOCATION DOES NOT HAVE A VOTING SYSTEM.
WE WOULD JUST DO A ROLL CALL AS WE DO NOW, SO IT WOULD BE A HAND VOTE, AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN PROBABLY DO IN THE CHAMBER AS WELL.
BUT IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE THE FULL FUNCTIONALITY OF IT, THE CHAMBER WOULD BE THE ONLY PLACE TO DO IT, BUT THEY ARE LIMITED TO SEVEN PEOPLE.
OK, SO IT'S KIND OF WEIGHING HAVING THE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY FOLKS VERSUS HAVING THE TECHNOLOGY.
AND FOR MY PART, I'D REALLY WEIGH ON THE COMMUNITY FOLKS.
LIKE EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
I MEAN, THERE'S THIS OLD FASHIONED WAY OF RAISING YOUR HAND OR DOING A VOICE VOTE, RIGHT? THANK YOU.
OK, CLOSING STATEMENTS, WE'LL START SINCE IT'S YOUR DISTRICT, MR. NORBY, LET'S START WITH YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN.
THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO ORGANIZE MY THOUGHTS HERE REAL QUICK, BUT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION AND MAKE IT AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD.
I GUESS WHAT I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY IS TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AROUND THE BARRIO AND VILLAGE AND TAKE A LOOK AT BUILDINGS THAT YOU DO LIKE.
AND FOR ME, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE QUONSET HUT AT CAMPFIRE RESTAURANT I REALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE THE NEIMAN'S BUILDING AND THE [INAUDIBLE].
BUILDING PART OF THE SHOPPING CENTER, AND I REALLY LIKE THAT.
I REALLY LIKE THE TWO SHIPPING CONTAINERS ON STATE STREET IN CARLSBAD VILLAGE, DRIVE IN THE PATIO UP ON TOP.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT IT'S ALMOST LIKE A PARK IN TERMS OF FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO MEET THERE.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD PREVENT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FROM HAPPENING.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET INTO MAYBE A GENERIC TEMPLATE OF FOUR OR FIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND IF YOU DON'T MEET THESE DESIGN STANDARDS, YOU CAN'T GO FORWARD WITH YOUR BUILDING.
AND SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE TO BALANCE KIND OF STATE LAW AND COMING INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THAT IN TERMS OF OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.
BUT I'M VERY CAUTIOUS THAT IT WILL AFFECT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO IN BUILDINGS THAT WE LOVE.
AND THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE IS TO CONSTANTLY ASK OUR STAFF AND THESE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WOULD YOUR DECISIONS ALLOW THESE TYPES OF BUILDINGS TO BE BUILT THAT I JUST MENTIONED BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY ARE BELOVED BY THE COMMUNITY OR AT LEAST MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE FORMATION OF THIS.
I'M ALSO GOING TO SUPPORT THE NINE MEMBERS.
YEAH, IT'S IT'S IT'S A COMMITTEE THAT'S GOING TO SUNSET.
SO IT'S A COMMITTEE THAT'S JUST BEING FORMED.
THIS DESIGN COMMITTEE JUST BEING FORMED FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT DOESN'T DEAL WITH ANY OF THE BULK ISSUES AT THE HEIGHT ISSUES.
AND THEN WHATEVER PROCESS, I THINK IF IT COMES BACK AND COUNCIL HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION OF SEATING, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND MY APPOINTMENTS ARE JUST A RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE VOTE IS BY COUNCIL.
AND THEN I WOULD JUST SEEK THEIR GUIDANCE THAT THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ME TO TO THE EXTENT THAT ALLOWS ME TO GOING FORWARD.
YOU REMEMBER WHAT YOU JUST SAID? MR. NORBY.
DR. BHAT-PATEL, YOU'RE NEXT, PLEASE.
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK FOLKS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, HAVING SOME SORT OF OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THIS AREA.
I KNOW THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW YEARS AGO, AND I'M SO GLAD THAT OUR STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING SO DILIGENTLY ON BRINGING THIS BACK.
AND THIS HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK A FEW TIMES BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUSH FORWARD WITH WITH REGARDS TO STATE LAW, ET CETERA, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PALATABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY
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AND SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY.AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S POTENTIALLY SOME ANXIETY AROUND WHAT THIS MAY MEAN.
HOWEVER, I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS MORE INPUT INTO WHAT THE WHAT THE DESIGNS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
SO I DO THINK THAT THIS ALLOWS FOR MORE DIALOG WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ENGAGED WITH US.
AND OF COURSE, WE WOULDN'T BE ON THAT COMMITTEE, SO IT WOULD BE WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BE ON THAT COMMITTEE.
AND THEN I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE OPEN TO HAVING A COUPLE MORE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ON THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE.
I DO APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY BRINGING UP THE, YOU KNOW, HEY, I HAVE TO, THAT HE HAS TO MAKE ALL OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT AGAIN, SIMILARLY, LIKE COUNCILMAN BREWER ACOSTA MENTIONED AND HOW I ASKED IN MY QUESTIONS, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DO.
I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S A RECOMMENDATION AND WE CAN STILL HAVE CONVERSATION AROUND THAT RECOMMENDATION WHEN IT COMES BEFORE US.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE IF IT WAS A A MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE AND I CAN SECOND IT.
AND THAT'S ALL FOR MY COMMENTS.
OK, MS. ACOSTA CLOSING STATEMENT, PLEASE.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK STAFF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE THE DRAFT DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE CHARTER AND IT JUST LOOKS SO GREAT.
I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO THIS, AND IT REALLY DOES ADDRESS A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS.
AND AS WE'VE SAID, COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL JUST SAID AND I SAID EARLIER, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IT MANY TIMES ALONG THE WAY, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP.
I ALSO DID NOTE, AS COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY JUST SAID, THIS IS A NOT A FOREVER COMMITTEE, NOT AN EVERGREEN COMMITTEE.
IT'S A 20 MONTH COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROCESS.
AND I DO THINK THE FORMATION OF IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THAT WE REALLY FOCUS ON TRANSPARENCY AND SOLICITING INPUT FROM FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE ADDITION OF THE TWO NEW MEMBERS, ONE RESIDENT FROM THE BARRIO AND ONE FROM THE VILLAGE.
MY QUESTION IS TO CITY ATTORNEY BREWER, WOULD WE MAKE THE MOTION IS IT APPROPRIATE JUST TO SAY THE MOTION WITH JUST THE ADDITION OF ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE BARRIO AND ONE FROM THE VILLAGE? CORRECT.
MR. NORBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION? THANK YOU, I WOULD MOVE TO MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO FORM THIS COMMITTEE WITH THE ADDITION OF TWO RESIDENTS, ONE ADDITIONAL RESIDENT FROM THE BARRIO, ONE RESIDENT FROM THE VILLAGE, SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL AYE.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY MAKING NOTE THAT THE.
I THINK YOUR AUDIO WENT OUT MAYOR PRO TEM.
SO RIGHT NOW I HAVE 4:45, SO AT 4:55, WE'LL RECONVENE.
OK, IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE'S BACK, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT
[8. INFORMATION ON THE MILLS ACT]
INFORMATION ON THE MILLS ACT, SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU MR. CHADWICK TO MAKE INTRODUCTIONS.MAKING THE INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION ON THE MILLS ACT WILL BE OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, MR. MIKE STRONG.
THANK YOU, AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS MIKE STRONG, THE ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND THIS IS A FOLLOW UP REQUEST AS INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES BASED ON A JULY 20TH, 2021 DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF A [INAUDIBLE] MYERS CAP HOUSE.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO FOLLOW UP WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THE MILLS ACT, BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY TO SEEK COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION TO PREPARE THE MILLS ACT.
TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS GOING TO COVER THE MILLS ACT, SOME OF THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS THAT MORE THAN 90 AGENCIES HAVE SUCCESSFULLY ADOPTED AND MOVE FORWARD WITH, AND THEN THE STEPS TO DEVELOP POTENTIALLY RESPECTIVELY, A LOCAL PROGRAM.
AND THE IMPORTANT THING TO STRESS WITH THIS PRESENTATION AND THE GENERAL
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DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL MAY OR MAY NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MILLS ACT DOES NOT HAVE ANY BINDING EFFECT ON ANY POSSIBLE FUTURE DISCRETIONARY ACTIONS, JUST DIRECTION TO POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MILL ACT PROGRAM.THE MILLS ACT LEGISLATION GRANTS PARTICIPATING CITIES AND COUNTIES THE AUTHORITY TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTS WITH OWNERS OF QUALIFIED HISTORIC PROPERTIES UNDER A CONTRACT PROPERTY OWNERS AGREED TO MAINTAIN AND IN SOME CASES REHABILITATE THE HISTORIC PROPERTY IN EXCHANGE FOR A PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION.
CONTRACTS ARE FOR A MINIMUM OF 10 YEARS.
THE AGREEMENT IS AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED EACH YEAR FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR, SO IT'S ON A ROLLING BASIS AND SO THAT THE 10 YEARS IS STILL LEFT IN THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT.
EACH CITY OR COUNTY DEVELOPS THEIR OWN PROGRAM UNDER THE BASIC FRAMEWORK OF STATE LAW.
ONCE ENROLLED, THE CITY CAN DEVELOP ITS OWN PROGRAM AND REQUIREMENTS AS LONG AS THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT LOOSE FRAMEWORK PROVIDED BY STATE LAW.
THE CITY CONTROLS WHICH PROPERTIES ARE APPROVED, AND THERE IS NO STATE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT.
MILLS ACT CONTRACTS CAN PROVIDE TAX BENEFITS TO BOTH OWNER OCCUPIED AND INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTIES, SO IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BECAUSE OF PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION MILLS ACT CONTRACT IS ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE INCENTIVES OFFERED TO PROPERTY OWNERS.
BUT BEFORE ENTERING INTO THE CONTRACT, ALL PARTIES NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF THE PROPERTY AND WHETHER THE SITE MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA OR IF REPAIRS ARE NEEDED, AND TO WHAT EXTENT.
TO BE ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES MUST QUALIFY AS A HISTORIC RESOURCE.
AND TYPICALLY THOSE ARE DEFINED AS BEING PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOT EXEMPT FROM PROPERTY TAXATION AND BEING LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES OR ANY STATE OR LOCAL REGISTER OF HISTORICAL OR ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT SITES.
PLACES POINTS OF INTEREST OR LANDMARKS.
ONCE A QUALIFIED PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED, THE PROPERTY OWNER NEEDS TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP A PRESERVATION PLAN FOR ANY RESTORATION WORK.
THEN THE MILLS ACT APPLICATION CAN BE FILED WITH THE CITY.
THE CONTRACT DEVELOPER WOULD IDENTIFY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE REPAIRS AND TO MAINTAIN AND PROTECT THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH SPECIFIC HISTORIC PRESERVATION STANDARDS OR CONDITIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE CONTRACT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE APPROVING.
THE SCOPE OF WORK TYPICALLY NEEDED FOR PRESERVING, REHABILITATING AND RESTORING OR RECONSTRUCTION IS REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPERTY UNDERGOING TREATMENT.
SO IT'S BASED ON HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE FROM THE EXISTING CONDITION PHYSICAL CONDITION.
THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THE STRUCTURE LOOK LIKE IT HAVE BEEN PRESERVED FROM THAT SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD.
AND THE BENEFIT IS TO SUBSIDIZE THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND MAINTENANCE TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY WITH THE TAX ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AND TO ADJUST THE AMOUNT OF THE PROPERTY TAX DUE, THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE NEEDS TO REASSESS THE PROPERTY.
THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECORDING THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS WITH THE COUNTY RECORDER BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST OF EACH YEAR.
AFTER RECREATION, THE CITY WOULD TRANSMIT THE CONTRACT AND THE DOCUMENTATION TO THE PROPERTY OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY ASSESSOR, WHERE THE CALCULATION FOR THE EXACT PROPERTY TAX UNDER THE MILLS ACT IS PERFORMED.
CONTRACTS ARE RECORDED BY THAT DECEMBER 31ST DATE OR REASSESSED BY THAT JUNE THE FOLLOWING YEAR SO THAT REDUCE TAXES APPEAR ON THAT TAX BILL THAT'S SENT OUT IN OCTOBER.
ONCE THE APPLICATION IS READY, THE REQUEST WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
THIS WOULD NEED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF OCTOBER OF EACH YEAR.
THEN THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RETAIN THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE OR APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY MILLS ACT CONTRACT REQUEST.
THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW AND APPROVE OF THE MILLS ACT APPLICATION BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR TO HAVE THE PROPERTY REASSESSED IN THE NEXT TAX ROLL ONCE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT REQUIRES THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO DETERMINE THE VALUE OF THE HISTORIC PROPERTY AND THE WAY THAT ITS ABILITY TO GENERATE INCOME, RATHER THAN THE TRADITIONAL METHOD OF ASSESSMENT.
CONTRACTS ARE AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED EACH YEAR AND TRANSFERRED TO THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN IT IS SOLD, AND IF THE PROSPECTIVE MILLS ACT PROGRAM WERE TO EVENTUALLY BE ADOPTED IN THE CITY.
PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM WOULD BE COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY.
PERIODIC INSPECTIONS WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THE CITY OR COUNTY, BY THE CITY OFFICIALS TO ENSURE PROPER MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY.
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LOCAL AUTHORITIES MAY IMPOSE PENALTIES FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT OR FAILURE TO PROTECT THE HISTORIC PROPERTY.SO THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY RETAINS THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE PROPERTIES FROM RECEIVING A MILLS ACT BENEFIT.
THE MILLS ACT IS AGAIN THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ECONOMIC INCENTIVE PROGRAM IN THE STATE, AND IT PROVIDES INCENTIVES TO OWNERS OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES TO PRESERVE AND RESTORE THOSE STRUCTURES.
IT HELPS RETAIN THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND PRESERVED HISTORIC FABRIC OF COMMUNITY WHOSE CULTURAL TOURISM AND INCREASED CIVIC PRIDE.
EACH CITY MAY ESTABLISH THEIR OWN CRITERIA AND DETERMINE HOW MANY CONTRACTS THEY CAN ALLOW IN THEIR JURISDICTION.
SO THE TERMS OF A MILLS ACT CONTRACT WOULD REFLECT THE PRIORITIES OF ANY LOCALLY ADOPTED PROGRAM OR POLICY SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
THE CITY COULD ALSO IMPOSE PENALTIES FOR BREACH OF CONTRACTS.
THE CITY, IN A CONTRACT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, IS BINDING TO ALL OWNERS DURING THE CONTRACT PERIOD.
SO THAT DOES BECOME SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE PROGRAM BECAUSE IT DOES ALLOW THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GAIN SOME BENEFITS THAT IS TRANSFERABLE.
SO SINCE IT'S RENEWED EACH YEAR, THERE ARE TRANSFERRED TO NEW OWNERS WHEN THE PROPERTY IS SOLD.
SO IF THE IMMEDIATE OR CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T RECEIVE THE BENEFITS, IT CAN TURN INTO A SELLING POINT.
AND BASED ON A REVIEW OF SOME OF THE EXISTING PROGRAMS IN THE STATE, IT APPEARS THAT THE REASSESSMENT COULD RESULT IN SAVINGS OF ABOUT 40 PERCENT TO 60 PERCENT EACH YEAR FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NEWLY IMPROVED OR PURCHASED OLDER PROPERTIES.
PROPERTIES WHERE THERE ARE CURRENTLY VERY LOW PROPERTY TAXES WILL MOST LIKELY NOT BENEFIT FROM THE MILLS ACT, BUT SOME OWNERS WHO WOULD LIKELY RECEIVE NO BENEFIT MAY STILL APPLY FOR THE MILLS ACT, AS IT CAN BE THAT SELLING POINT.
SO THERE IS FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO ROLL INTO THE PROGRAM WHEN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IS HIGH OR WAS RECENTLY REASSESSED.
THE STAFF REPORT LAYS OUT SOME OF THE STEPS NEEDED TO INITIATE AND DEVELOP THE OVERALL WORK PROGRAM BEFORE RETURNING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION.
THOSE ARE BRIEFLY SUMMARIZED ON THIS SLIDE, BUT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO IF AUTHORIZED BY CITY COUNCIL TO RETAIN THE ACQUISITION OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BY WAY OF A CONSULTANT.
IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THE CONTRACT AMOUNT WOULD NOT EXCEED $35000 AND BE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT BUDGET, AND THERE WOULD BE A SERIES OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ENGAGED THROUGH STAKEHOLDER CONSULTATIONS AND ALLOW SOME OF THE STEERING THROUGH THE HPC AND ULTIMATELY BY MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR IF AUTHORIZED, THIS PLANNING COMMISSION COULD PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION IN LATE SUMMER OF 2022.
THIS DOES CONCLUDE STAFF'S INITIAL PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? YOU'RE BOBBY, YOU'RE MUTED.
AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW OR RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.
PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW ON RAISE YOUR HAND.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, MAYOR.
OK, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? MR. NORBY.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME BEFORE US.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROGRAM AND IT'S IT'S AN AWESOME PROGRAM AND I JUST WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND SAY VERY MUCH FAVOR [INAUDIBLE] APPROACH TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION AS OPPOSED TO A ENFORCEMENT OR STICKS APPROACH.
THE MILLS ACT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
GENERALLY, THERE ARE GOOD RESULTS.
THERE HAVE BEEN A CITY OR TWO THAT HAVE ABUSED THE PROGRAM.
THEY PUT JUST THOUSANDS OF PROPERTIES IN THE MILLS ACT, AND IT HASN'T GONE WELL.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT LIKE REDEVELOPMENT.
MOST PEOPLE DO GREAT IN DEVELOPMENT.
THERE WERE SOME BAD ACTORS FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD I WOULD BASICALLY SAY, AS YOU DEVELOP THIS, LET'S WORK THROUGH OUR COMMISSIONS AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION UP TO THE
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PLANNING COMMISSION.BUT I WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE VILLAGE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
AND THE REASON THAT I WOULD INCLUDE THEM IS THAT THEY ARE AN ASPIRING MAINSTREAM PROGRAM, AND MAIN STREET IS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME KNOWLEDGE THERE THAT WOULD BE OF ASSIST TO OUR CITY STAFF IN DEVELOPING THE PROGRAM AND BRINGING IT BACK.
AND THEN I WOULD ALSO BE IN FAVOR OF CAPPING THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT COULD GO INTO A MILLS ACT IN TERMS OF ANNUALLY.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CAP OF MAYBE TWENTY OR TWENTY FIVE PROPERTIES.
AND THE REASON THAT I SAY I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM IS THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH MANY CITIES THAT JUST HAVE THREE OR FOUR.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PLACE A CAP ON IT SO IT DOESN'T GET ABUSED.
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA, THANK YOU.
YES, I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] MYERS CAP, I HOPE I GOT ALL THREE NAMES IN THE RIGHT ORDER HOUSE.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT KIND OF CULTURAL ASSETS IN THE COMMUNITY, KNOW THAT OUR COMMISSION WORKS ON, BUT MAYBE AREN'T FULLY INCLUDED OR WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE OPTIONS LAID OUT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL ASKED WAS FOR THIS, THIS KIND OF Q&A AND THIS THIS CONVERSATION TO HAPPEN ABOUT THE MILLS ACT AND WHETHER IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT A TOOL THAT WE COULD HAVE IN OUR ARSENAL, IN OUR IN OUR TOOLKIT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO USE TO HELP PRESERVE SOME OF THESE ASSETS.
AND I THINK THIS IS EXACTLY THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT OTHER TOOLS CAN WE HAVE THAT DON'T COST US TOO MUCH MONEY THAT WE CAN WE CAN PUT OUT THERE.
SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS PROGRAM.
I THINK IT'S IT KIND OF COVERS ALL THOSE BASES OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
AND I'M REALLY PLEASED TO TO SEE THE SPIRIT FROM THE COUNCIL, FROM MY COLLEAGUES TO TO HELP PRESERVE AND LOOK FOR WAYS TO CULTIVATE THAT, THAT THOSE KIND OF BEAUTIFUL CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM TO HAVE A CAP EITHER IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I DON'T I JUST DON'T SEE US HAVING A BIG RUSH ON THIS PROGRAM.
BUT MAYBE I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT STAFF COMES BACK TO US WITH, AND I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF AUTHORIZING STAFF TO TO GO INVESTIGATE, COME UP WITH A PROGRAM FOR US WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON THAT WHEN THAT COMES BACK.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENTS, YES.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY AGAIN, JUST ECHOING THE SENTIMENTS OF THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALSO JUST SAYING THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS BACK.
I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING TO COME BEFORE US AT A FUTURE TIME, SINCE I KNOW THAT THIS WAS INFORMATIONAL.
BUT IF IF WE WERE WANTING TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT TOO, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.
I JUST ALSO WANTED TO INCORPORATE I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY, YOU MENTIONED A FEW OF THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS THAT WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
I JUST ALSO WANTED TO SAY I KNOW THE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING ALSO GIVEN THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AN ARTS DISTRICT.
AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING.
NOT SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO BE THROWN INTO THE MIX OR ANYTHING TO THAT REGARD, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL TO SEE THEM HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST ENGAGE WHENEVER THIS DOES HAPPEN.
AND THEN JUST HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE ARTS DISTRICT.
SO JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS COME TO FRUITION.
OK, MR. BLACKBURN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? NOTHING IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID.
THEN COULD WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? AND JUST AS A CLARIFICATION, THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION.
IF YOU PROVIDE US DIRECTION, WE WILL COME BACK AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING WITH SAID DIRECTION.
AND I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY LEANING FORWARD.
YEAH, I THINK SHE WOULD WANT IT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION, THOUGH.
SO WHY DON'T WE LET MR. NORBY TRY AND TAKE THIS ONE ON MR. NORBY YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A MILLS ACT PROGRAM TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE WITH THE PROPOSED CAP.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL WAIT, WHAT COMES BACK? OK? AND MS. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA, YOU SECONDED.
THAT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL.
AND MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN SO WHOEVER YOU WANT TO TAKE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL AYE.
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MAYOR HALL AYE.MOVING ON TO A DETERMINATION TO CONTINUE VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETINGS OR RESUME AN
[9. DETERMINATION TO CONTINUE VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETINGS OR RESUME IN-PERSON PUBLIC MEETINGS ON NOV. 1, 2021]
IN-PERSON PUBLIC MEETING ON NOVEMBER 1ST, MR. CHADWICK INTRODUCTIONS.[INAUDIBLE] I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND HANDLE THIS ONE.
NEWSOM SIGNED ASSEMBLY BILL 361 OPEN MEETING STATE AND LOCAL AGENCIES TELECONFERENCES, WHICH TOOK EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
THAT'S WHAT THE WHAT WE'RE OPERATING IN CURRENTLY.
HOWEVER, THE BILL ENDED UP AMENDING THE GOVERNMENT CODE TO PROVIDE MORE CLARITY ON THE BROWN ACTS RULES AND RESTRICTIONS SURROUNDING THE USE OF TELECONFERENCING TO CONDUCT OUR MEETINGS.
THEREFORE, IN THE EVENT THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE THESE DISCUSSIONS, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO.
COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO AT 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE, MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT ACTIONS OR ACTIVITIES WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IN THE FUTURE.
MEANING DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE GOING VIRTUALLY OR GO IN PERSON? SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY THAT MAKES THAT DETERMINATION.
SO HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY SEEKING COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CONTINUE VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON.
SO JUST A POINT OF CLARITY, MR. CHADWICK, YOU SAID 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE.
SO THE DECISION WE MAKE TODAY WON'T BE CARRIED OUT FOR 30 DAYS.
IS THAT HOW I'M UNDERSTANDING IT? NO, MY MY APOLOGY IS MEANING FOR TO SET THE NEXT MONTH.
I SHOULD HAVE USED A LITTLE CLEARER LANGUAGE, BUT OKAY FOR THE FOLLOWING MONTH OR THE NEXT 30 DAYS.
COUNCIL AT THIS MEETING WOULD DECIDE HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN NOVEMBER.
OK WITH THAT OR DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIA PHONE.
THE CALLER AT NINE, SEVEN, FIVE ONE, CAN YOU PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.
HI, MY NAME IS TRACEY CARMICHAEL, AND I'M A CARLSBAD RESIDENT.
I WANTED TO JUST WEIGH IN ON THIS.
I SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO CONDUCT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS IN PUBLIC BY RETURNING TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS STARTING IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.
I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU FOR THE COMMUNITY'S SAKE, IS TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT.
IF YOU REALLY, TRULY WANT THE COMMUNITY AND US TO BE ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS, PLEASE KEEP YOUR TIMES AND LOCATIONS CONSISTENT BECAUSE YOU START CHANGING THINGS AND IT CHANGES, YOU PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE DETAIL, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME BACK IN PERSON, MEET IN PERSON.
AND WE'VE HAD A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO VIRTUAL OR NOT VIRTUAL AND THE COMBINATION.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REOPEN BACK UP TO THE PUBLIC AND DO OUR BUSINESS IN PUBLIC.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS [INAUDIBLE].
CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I SECOND MS. CARMICHAEL, I WOULD APPRECIATE AND WELCOME THE MEETINGS COMING BACK IN PERSON.
I THINK BY NOW WE HAVE TIME TO SET UP.
WE COULD MAYBE PUT A PLASTIC SHIELD OR SUCH BEFORE THE DAIS AND THEN REQUIRE EVERYONE TO WEAR A MASK.
I KNOW IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BEST, BUT I THINK THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, AND I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT INTERACTING FACE TO FACE THAN IT IS THROUGH COMPUTER.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS, MAYOR.
OK, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? MR. BLACKBURN.
UM, WANTED TO KNOW IF COMING BACK WOULD WE ALL HAVE TO WEAR MASKS? BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE GUESTS.
YES, THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION.
IN THE EVENT THAT WE DID RETURN TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS, WE WOULD REQUIRE THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING TO BE IN ONE LOCATION FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR EXISTING COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WE DON'T HAVE GOOD AIRFLOW AND IT'S JUST A TINY BOX.
SO AGAIN, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE, PARTICULARLY ON THE DAIS.
THEREFORE, THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE MASKS BE WORN AT ALL TIMES.
WHEN WE CAME BACK, WELL NOW, I GUESS IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
YOU HAD TO NOTIFY EVERYBODY THAT SOMEONE HAD COVID AND AT LEAST ANYBODY WHO WAS
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CLOSE TO THAT PERSON WAS EXPOSED.ARE THE NUMBERS OF COVID MUCH LESS NOW THAN THEY WERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED? THEY ARE NOT AND ACTUALLY, SHEILA, CAN I ASK YOU OR TROUBLE YOU TO BRING UP THE ACTIVE COVID CASE DOCUMENT? THAT'S IT, THANK YOU.
SO IF AND LET'S SEE, THEN CAN YOU ALSO CAN YOU USE BRING THE POINTER IF YOU LOOK DOWN OVER TO JULY 14TH? SO COUNCIL MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT WE WOULD GO BACK TO IN-PERSON COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THAT WAS AT THAT JULY 7TH MEETING.
SO WE RETURN TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS BEGINNING JULY 14TH.
AT THAT MEETING, WE DID HAVE ONE OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES WHO WAS AN ACTIVE COVID 19 CASE.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THIS BELL CURVE THAT YOU SEE THEN BEFORE YOU GREW EXPONENTIALLY.
I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE DO NOT BELIEVE OR HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL WAS AS A RESULT OF THE SPIKING OF FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHT.
THAT ENDED IN FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHT CASES ON AUGUST 18TH.
HOWEVER, THE CASE RATE STILL CONTINUES TO BE CONSIDERABLY HIGHER THAN WHEN IT WAS WHEN WE WENT BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS.
SO AGAIN, WHEN WE WENT BACK TO IN-PERSON, WE WERE AT ONE HUNDRED.
CURRENTLY WE'RE AT TWO HUNDRED AND SEVEN CASES.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'LL JUST AGAIN, CAUTION COUNCIL ON IS NOW THAT WE'RE TRANSITIONING INTO FLU SEASON, THERE ARE GOING TO BE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HAVE FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS. FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS AGAIN CAN COME ACROSS AS BEING COVID 19 RELATED BECAUSE THE SYMPTOMS ARE VERY SIMILAR.
AND THAT'S AGAIN, WHY WE WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND REQUIRE THAT IF WE DO RETURN TO IN-PERSON, EVERYONE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A MASK REGARDLESS OF VACCINATION STATUS.
THOSE ARE MY ONLY QUESTIONS, THANKS.
SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, MR. CHADWICK, IS THIS YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR IS THIS A STATE OR FEDERAL OR LOCAL MANDATE? THIS WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION CONSISTENT WITH MY AUTHORITY AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
IT SEEMS TO ME IN THE MEETING TODAY, DID THE SUPERVISORS WEAR MASKS WHEN THEY WERE IN THEIR MEETING? I BELIEVE THERE WERE SEVERAL SUPERVISORS THAT WORE MASKS, AND THEN WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD REMOVE THEIR MASK WHEN THEY WERE SPEAKING.
ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO ALSO GO BACK TO THE CONFIGURATION OF OUR CITY COUNCIL OR AT LEAST OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
WE HAVE AN OLDER BUILDING THAT AGAIN IS NOT CONDUCIVE OF BEING ABLE TO SPREAD OUT.
THAT FACILITY IS ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A MUCH GREATER AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUALS.
FOR US, IT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL.
OK, LET'S START OFF WITH--I'M SORRY, MR. BLACKBURN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR WERE YOU READY FOR COMMENTS ALSO? I'M READY FOR COMMENTS ALSO.
OK, WELL COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA, YOU WERE UP FIRST.
OK? I AM VERY EXCITED TO RETURN TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS BECAUSE I'VE ONLY BEEN TO TWO ON THE DAIS.
THE REST HAVE BEEN VIRTUAL AND IT'S BEEN ALMOST A YEAR.
HOWEVER, I THINK THAT CHART THE SLIDE THAT WE SAW LAST TIME WHEN WE MADE THIS DECISION SAYS IT ALL.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE RETURN TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS LAST TIME THE NUMBERS WERE VERY LOW AND THEY JUST WENT UP.
AND ALTHOUGH THEY SUBSIDED SOMEWHAT, THEY'RE NOT BACK TO WHAT THEY WERE IN JULY OF THIS YEAR.
AND I THINK THE NUMBER ON THERE WAS LIKE 50 OR FEWER CASES THAT WE HAD AT THAT TIME WHEN WE WENT BACK.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IT A LOWER NUMBER BACK.
SEE THAT BELL CURVE RETURNED TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE, BEFORE WE'RE BACK IN PERSON, ESPECIALLY RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE TERRIBLE FOR FOLKS TO COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING, GIVE THEIR PUBLIC INPUT AND CATCH SOMETHING.
SO I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT GOING BACK INTO THOSE THAT VERY SMALL ROOM, THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHERE WE'RE ALL INTERACTING SO CLOSELY JUST BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL ROOM.
AND AS MUCH AS WE TRY TO DISTANCE, IT'S DIFFICULT.
SO IT PAINS ME TO SAY IT BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO BE BACK WITH PEOPLE AS MUCH AS
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POSSIBLE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS.AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER GOING BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS UNTIL AFTER NOVEMBER.
SO OR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, RECONSIDER AGAIN IN NOVEMBER.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT VIRTUAL MEETINGS THROUGH.
I BELIEVE THE DATE IS NOVEMBER 18TH FOR US TO RECONSIDER AGAIN NOVEMBER 18TH AND DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO AFTER THAT.
YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY THOUGHTS ARE I WEAR A MASK WHEN I'M OUT ABOUT AND I GO SHOPPING AND I GO INTO A STORE, NOT WHEN I'M OUTSIDE, BUT WHEN I'M INSIDE, I GO SHOPPING.
I TEND TO LOOK AT THE ROOM AND IF THERE'S GOOD AIRFLOW THROUGH THE ROOM, YOU KNOW, I'LL SIT NEXT TO A DOOR.
SO WHEN WE'RE OUT FOR DINNER, WE'LL SIT INSIDE, BUT IT'LL BE RIGHT NEXT TO A DOOR.
OTHERWISE, WE'LL BE SITTING OUTSIDE.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WEARING MY MASK FOR FOUR OR FIVE HOURS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
YOU KNOW, 10 MINUTES, 15 MINUTES IS FINE.
FOUR OR FIVE HOURS? THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR ME PERSONALLY.
I WOULD WANT SOME EXTRA BREAKS IF WE WENT THAT ROUTE.
SO I WOULD AGREE IN TERMS OF THE CHART THAT WAS SHOWN THE NUMBERS, OUR FACILITY.
I WOULD AGREE TO FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS TO CONTINUE VIRTUAL MEETINGS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA HAS STATED ALMOST A WHOLE YEAR ONLY, I THINK TWO IN-PERSON MEETINGS ALMOST A WHOLE YEAR.
AND SO I WANT OUR STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAYBE NOT ALLOW FOLKS TO SIT IN THE FIRST TWO ROWS OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO MOVE THE I NOTICE MY SEAT AS A THE NEWEST COUNCIL PERSON WOULD BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SPEAKER'S PODIUM TO MOVE THAT SPEAKER'S PODIUM BACK SIX OR SEVEN FEET IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MEETINGS THERE.
BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE OUR STAFF TO LOOK LONG TERM THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE MEETINGS VIRTUALLY FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
AND SO IF WE HAVE A SHORT TERM SOLUTION, IF THE VIRAL LOAD GOES DOWN, WE CAN GET BACK GREAT.
BUT IF NOT, I'D LIKE OUR STAFF TO BE LOOKING AT A LARGER ROOM SOMEWHERE.
AND I THINK THAT THE WEIGHING THE COST OF HAVING THAT MEETING IN A LARGER ROOM WHERE WE CAN SOCIALLY DISTANCE AND WE CAN'T PROTECT OURSELVES AND THERE IS BETTER VENTILATION, IS A LOT HEAVIER ON THE SCALE FOR ME THAN, WELL, WE CAN'T.
THERE'S A BUDGET ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OR IT'S GOING TO BE TROUBLESOME TO DO THAT.
AND I KNOW IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN IN A MONTH OR TWO, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF A LARGER FACILITY THAT HAS BETTER AIRFLOW.
WE CAN SOCIALLY DISTANCE IF THIS GOES ON AND ON BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE IN PERSON AS WELL.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
SURE THANK YOU I WOULD SAY SIMILARLY, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARDS TO THE MASKS AND HAVING TO WEAR THEM WHILE WE'RE AT THE MEETING, I THINK IT WILL BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO BE MORE PERSONABLE, MORE HAVE CONVERSATION, BE ABLE TO SEE ONE ANOTHER.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE ONE PART THAT'S A LITTLE CHALLENGING IN TERMS OF REALLY BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONVERSATION.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY MADE, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FOUR TO SIX MONTHS OUT, WHATEVER THAT MAY LOOK LIKE, IF WE ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUING IN THIS TRAJECTORY, I DO THINK THAT IT'S A DEFINITELY A GOOD POINT TO BRING UP THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THINK ABOUT ALTERNATIVES SO THAT IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING IN PERSON IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE SAFE FOR EVERYONE, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
I THINK I SHARE THE SENTIMENTS OF THE OTHER COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE SPOKEN SO FAR AND REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF ALSO FEEL SAFE AND SUPPORTED.
I HAVE TWO ISSUES, ONE, I AGREE WITH MS. ACOSTA WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT OUR TIMING, HOW HORRIBLE THIS YEAR, WHETHER IT BE FLU OR COVID OR ANYTHING WITH FAMILY MEMBERS DURING CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR.
BUT ONE IS I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND I AGREE: WHY PUSH IT? BUT SECONDLY, I HEAR PEOPLE SAY IT'S JUST NOT AS PERSONAL, BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT SHOWING OUR FACES ON ZOOM IS MUCH MORE PERSONAL THAN WEARING FACE MASKS IN A REAL LIVE SETTING.
SO I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THIS SHOULD BE PUT OFF UNTIL A TIME THAT WE CAN ATTEND THE MEETINGS WITHOUT WEARING FACE MASKS.
I'M SORRY, MR. BLACKBURN, I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR LAST COUPLE OF SENTENCES.
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MAYOR, YOU'RE SILENT.OH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR LAST COUPLE OF SENTENCES, MR. BLACKBURN, OH, I SAID I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE SHOULD NOT RETURN UNTIL THE NUMBERS ALLOW US TO RETURN.
WELL, I THINK I'M IN THE MINORITY.
I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK THE FIRST OF NOVEMBER.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. I KNOW I'M NOT THE YOUNGEST PERSON SITTING ON THE DAIS, BUT I DON'T FEEL IN ANY WAY THAT MY HEALTH IS IN JEOPARDY.
AND IF SOMEONE DOES, I THINK THEY HAVE MASKS OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO WEAR FOR THEIR OWN SECURITY OR THEIR OWN WELL-BEING.
BUT WHEN YOU THINK OF 1 OR 200 PEOPLE PER 115000, I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE 0.00 SOMETHING.
SO I'LL YIELD TO WHATEVER YOU THINK.
BUT I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT EACH OF YOU DO SO AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.
I ALSO KNOW THAT THE SEVERITY OF THIS ILLNESS IS NOT WHAT IT WAS 12 OR 14 MONTHS AGO.
THERE ARE SEVERAL MEDICATIONS NOW THAT CAN ADDRESS THIS IF IT'S CAUGHT QUICKLY.
AND SO I'M NOT FOR ONE, FOR RUNNING AND HIDING FOR THE NEXT.
WHATEVER 12 MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, I'M CERTAINLY MOST NOT WANTING TO REDESIGN A COUNCIL OR BUILD A NEW COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN THREE TO SIX MONTHS, I JUST HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE ANYWHERE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, SO SORRY, BUT I DISAGREE.
CITY MANAGER, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, BUT I JUST WANT TO I NEED SOME HELP ON THE WORDING.
DO WE GO FROM THIS TODAY FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR IS IT FOR ALL OF NOVEMBER? IT WOULD BE FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.
HOWEVER, WE WOULD END UP RECONSIDERING THE ITEM TO FOR NEXT STEPS FOR DECEMBER, AND WE WOULD DO THAT RECONSIDERATION.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SHEILA, BUT IT'S NOVEMBER 16TH IS THE NEXT TIME THAT WE WOULD RECONSIDER.
THEN MY MOTION WILL BE THAT WE CONTINUE ON ZOOM FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY MY REMARKS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY ATTENDING COUNCIL MEETINGS OVER THE LAST DECADE OR THE LAST 15 YEARS, I CAN RECALL PROBABLY SEVEN OR EIGHT LOCATIONS WHERE I'VE ATTENDED COUNCIL MEETINGS.
WE USED TO HOLD THEM, EACH QUADRANT OF THE CITY, WE WOULD HAVE ANNUALLY A MEETING AT EACH QUADRANT OF THE CITY.
WE'VE HELD THEM AT THE SAFETY CENTER.
WE'VE HELD THEM IN HOTEL ROOMS. WE'VE HELD THEM IN A LOT OF PLACES.
SO MY COMMENT IS NOT BUILD A FACILITY THAT'S LARGER AND BUILD IT IN SIX MONTHS.
MY COMMENT IS THAT WE HAVE HELD COUNCIL MEETINGS IN THE PAST IN LARGER FACILITIES, AND WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT INTO THE FUTURE IF THOSE IF THIS CONTINUES IN THE THREE OR SIX MONTHS RANGE.
AND I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT, MR. NORBY.
I THINK ON AN EARLIER MOTION, THOUGH, WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO INVEST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR MEETINGS NOT ONLY COULD BE IN PERSON, BUT THEY COULD ALSO BE VIRTUALLY.
AND SO THAT ADDS A WHOLE DIFFERENT LAYER.
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THEM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO TRY AND CREATE THE ELECTRONICS IN ANOTHER LOCATION BECOMES A HUGE CHALLENGE.
WE CAN'T EVEN GET IN OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS YET, LET ALONE ANOTHER LOCATION.
SO I WAS JUST GOING OFF A PRIOR MOTION.
SO WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10 DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON CITYWIDE DATA POLICY
[10. DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON A CITYWIDE DATA POLICY AND PROGRAM]
PROGRAM.YES, SIR, AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE INTRODUCING OUR TWO DAVIDS.
WE'VE GOT OUR BUSINESS AND INTELLIGENCE AND ANALYTICS MANAGER DAVE VAN GILLUWE AND OUR CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER, DAVID GRAHAM, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR CITYWIDE DATA POLICY PROGRAM.
AND YES, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE CITYWIDE DATA POLICY AND PROGRAM AND HOW APROPOS THAT MOST OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT HAS ACTUALLY INCLUDED THINGS REGARDING DATA.
SO I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN RIGHT NOW AND WE WILL GET GOING.
AS IT RELATES TO THE CITYWIDE DATA POLICY AND PROGRAM, WE ARE BASICALLY ON
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A JOURNEY OF QUITE A FEW DECISIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE UP TO DATE.THE RECOMMENDATION IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT A CITYWIDE DATA POLICY AND PROGRAM.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF GETTING TO THIS PARTICULAR POINT, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE A NUMBER OF DECISIONS OVER THE YEARS TO BEGIN TO BUILD CAPACITY FOR THE CITY'S DATA DRIVEN DECISION MAKING.
SO BACK AS THE CITY WAS CONSIDERING ITS 2020 2021 FISCAL BUDGET, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE CREATION OF A NEW POSITION OF THE DATA SCIENCE AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE MANAGER.
THEN IN JANUARY, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED CONNECTED CARLSBAD.
FOLLOWING ON THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE DAVE VAN GILLUWE IN THAT BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE AND DATA SCIENCE POSITION.
HE THEN BEGAN WORK, ALTHOUGH INTERRUPTED TO SOME EXTENT BY COVID.
WORK ON A CITYWIDE DATA INVENTORY.
BUT IT WAS GREAT THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEBODY WITH THAT SORT OF CITYWIDE ROLE TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH DATA ISSUES BECAUSE HE WAS ABLE TO DO A NUMBER OF PROJECTS ACROSS DEPARTMENTAL TO SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS TO COMBAT COVID 19.
THE CITYWIDE DATA INVENTORY WAS COMPLETED AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL LAST IN JUNE, APPROVED THE STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PROGRAM, WHICH EFFECTIVELY DEALS WITH ALL THINGS DIGITAL AND TECHNOLOGY, INCLUDING OUR DATA EFFORTS, AND APPROVE THE BUDGET FOR THE ONGOING DATA EFFORTS HERE AT THE CITY.
AND NOW WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY IS THE CONSIDERATION OF A CITYWIDE DATA POLICY.
IF THE CITY COUNCIL CHOOSES TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THIS POLICY, THEN THE DATA GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE WILL BEGIN TO MEET.
THERE'LL BE A PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE DATA POLICY AND IMPLEMENTATION AND RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE AND AN ONGOING CHANGES MAY BE HAPPENING ASSOCIATED WITH DATA AND TECHNOLOGY WILL CONSISTENTLY BE REVIEWING AND APPROACHING THIS FROM A CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT APPROACH.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DATA, THERE IS A TON OF DATA IN CARLSBAD.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE STRUCTURED DATA, THERE'S FOUR TERABYTES STRUCTURED MEANS IT'S PRETTY EASY TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND SEARCH, BUT OVER A HUNDRED TERABYTES OF DIGITAL FILES.
TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DATABASES AND TWO POINT TWO MILLION INDIVIDUAL FILES.
THERE IS A LOT OF DATA HERE IN CARLSBAD.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SOMEWHAT ABSTRACT.
FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT IS IN CARLSBAD TODAY WOULD EQUATE TO 10 YEARS OF DATA BEING STREAMED FROM THE HUBBLE TELESCOPE.
THOSE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF THE COSMOS.
OR YOU COULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MAYBE YOUR FAVORITE VIRAL VIDEO.
THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES FOR ROBERT KELLY, INTERRUPTED BY HIS KIDS DURING WORK IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE BBC.
YOU COULD BASICALLY WATCH THIS ON LOOP FOR ABOUT AN ENTIRE YEAR.
I LIKE TO USE THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE BECAUSE FRANKLY, THIS IS WHAT THE DATA STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE AT THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
IT CAN BE FAIRLY CHAOTIC, IT CAN BE FAIRLY DISRUPTIVE, AND WE'RE BEGINNING TO PUT FORWARD A STRUCTURE THAT COULD HELP TO BRING SOME ORDER TO THAT CHAOS.
YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE THAT WE WOULD USE THE TERM THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS AS A EXAMPLE OF HOW MUCH DATA THE CITY HAD AND FRANKLY, THE OLD LIBRARY OF CONGRESS HELD ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
NOW THEY HAVE SINCE SURPASSED THAT WITH ALL THE DIGITAL DATA THEY HOLD.
IN FACT, THEY HAD TO JUST RECENTLY ANNOUNCE THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER GOING TO BE HOLDING ALL PUBLIC TWEETS.
BUT A LIBRARY IS A REALLY A GOOD EXAMPLE TO LOOK AT THE WAY THAT WE THINK ABOUT DATA AT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
THIS YOU COULD THINK OF OUR DATA IN TERMS OF A LIBRARY SO PERMITS WATER METER DATA, ECONOMIC DATA, BUSINESS LICENSES.
ALL OF THESE THINGS EASILY ACCESSIBLE, EASILY RECOGNIZABLE.
ANYBODY CAN PICK UP A BOOK ANYBODY CAN READ.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE, IT DOES NOT TAKE ANY TRAINING OTHER THAN BEING ABLE TO READ AND USE THE DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS.
PLUS, YOU HAVE LIBRARIANS TO HELP YOU FIGURE OUT THAT DATA AND INFORMATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT.
IT'S LIKE THESE THOUSANDS OR MILLIONS OF POINTS OF LIGHTS, THE STARS, AND IT IS UNSTRUCTURED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS BY BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU TODAY A DATA POLICY AND PROGRAM.
ULTIMATELY, THERE IS NOT A LIBRARY PER SAY OF DATA.
WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO WITH PUTTING THIS POLICY IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS GIVE THE ABILITY TO BEGIN TO BRING SOME ORDER TO THAT CHAOS, TO BEGIN, TO CREATE THAT LIBRARY, TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR OUR OWN EMPLOYEES, FOR YOURSELVES AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND USE THAT DATA.
NOW, EVEN WITH THIS CHAOS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME AMAZING THINGS.
THINK, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT YOU'VE SEEN REGULARLY IN THE CITY MANAGER'S UPDATES OF THE DATA
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INSIGHTS REGARDING THE COVID CASES.I MEAN, WE WERE ABLE TO AND ARE THE ONLY CITY IN THE REGION TO HAVE STARTED AND DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WHEN DATA WAS AVAILABLE TO HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND HOW THEY ARE AFFECTING AND KEEPING THE CASE RATE REGARDING COVID 19 DOWN BY USING DATA AND PUBLISHING THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
YOU CAN LOOK AT OTHER THINGS LIKE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM INTERACTIVE MAP.
I MEAN, HERE YOU'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALMOST 300 PROJECTS AND SEE THE DESCRIPTION RATIONALE LOCATION COST.
THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THIS AND SEE THE GREAT WORK THAT IS OCCURRING ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY CAN CAN VISUALIZE THE THING THAT'S DOWN THE STREET, WHETHER IT'S A SEWER MAIN REPAIR, WHETHER IT'S A NEW PARK, WHETHER IT'S A STREET, A ROAD, A SIDEWALK.
IT'S ALL CONTAINED HERE AND IT'S VISUALIZED AT A GEOGRAPHIC BASIS.
THERE ARE SO MANY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUPPORT AND HELP, BUT IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON.
WE ARE UPSCALING OUR ENTIRE WORKFORCE TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH AND WORK WITH DATA.
SO THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, WHETHER IT'S H.R.
AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING AROUND OUR EMPLOYEES, OR WHETHER IT'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT INTERACTIVE BUDGET BOOK, WHETHER IT'S FIRE AND ACCESS TO CAD DATA OR INSPECTIONS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY, WE ARE HELPING TO EMPOWER PEOPLE IN OUR ORGANIZATION TO USE DATA FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, FOR OUR OWN ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ULTIMATELY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE ECONOMIC INSIGHTS AND INTELLIGENCE AND BUILD THAT CAPACITY.
YOU SEE THIS NOW QUARTERLY THESE POSTINGS OF BOTH OUR BUDGET AND OUR ECONOMIC INSIGHTS THAT HAVE HELPED US BE MORE AGILE IN MAKING DECISIONS WITH REGARDS TO DATA AND MOVE TOWARDS BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE THE PANDEMIC AND ALLOW US TO DO INTERVENTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE FIRST SEVERAL MONTHS OF THE PANDEMIC.
GOOGLE AND YELP DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH RESTAURANTS, AND SO WE STOOD UP OUR OWN MAP THAT TOLD YOU WHETHER IT'S FOOD AND BEVERAGE PLACES WHERE OPEN FOR DELIVERY, WHETHER THEY WERE OPEN FOR IN-PERSON DINING AND EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS THAT WAS LISTED ON THAT MAP NOTED AN INCREASE IN REVENUE AND INCREASE IN ACTIVITY.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS FOR MANY, IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND REALLY BE ABLE TO HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE PUBLIC AND MEETING THE CITY'S GOALS BECAUSE WE'VE BEGUN TO MOVE TOWARDS A MORE STANDARDIZED PLATFORM AND TRAIN ON THAT.
AND SO WE'VE TRAINED OVER 20 STAFF ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR STANDARDIZED PLATFORM.
IT'S ALLOWING US TO ALSO DO ONE ON ONE IN-HOUSE TRAINING FROM OUR DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.
AND THERE'S DIRECT SAVINGS, NOT JUST IN THE FACT THAT WE'RE SAVING MONEY USING EXISTING EMPLOYEES INSTEAD OF CONTRACTING THAT OUT, BUT THE SAVINGS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE INSIGHTS THAT ARE BEING DERIVED FROM THESE PROJECTS ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
AND NOW ALL OF THIS EXPERIENCE IS INFORMING THE PROPOSED DATA POLICY.
SO WHAT IS THE DATA POLICY? WELL, AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, THERE'S A PURPOSE.
THERE'S A POLICY STATEMENT THAT REALLY ESTABLISHES THE METHODS AND PROCESSES FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE ORGANIZATIONAL DATA AND INFORMATION AND REALLY A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACT UPON THAT TO SUPPORT THE GOALS THAT THIS CITY HAS LAID OUT IN THE CITY COUNCIL LAYS OUT.
AND IN THOSE POLICY STATEMENTS, THERE ARE SEVERAL OBJECTIVES AND IT'S REALLY FAIRLY HOLISTIC.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT OUR OWN INTERNAL OPERATIONS, IT'S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, ABOUT GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HOW WE MANAGE AND DEAL WITH THIS DATA AND ULTIMATELY, LEADING TO A SECURE WAY OF PROVIDING A TRANSPARENT AND RESILIENT APPROACH TO USING DATA.
CENTRAL TO ALL OF THIS, AND IN THE POLICY IS THE ROLE OF THE CHIEF DATA OFFICER AND THIS IS A TERM THAT IS VERY WELL KNOWN TODAY IN BOTH MUNICIPAL AND PRIVATE SECTOR SITUATIONS.
SO THE CHIEF DATA OFFICER REALLY DOES OVERSEE DATA RELATED FUNCTIONS LIKE MANAGEMENT, ENSURING QUALITY AND CREATING DATA STRATEGIES.
REALLY, IT'S A CITYWIDE FOCUS THAT'S CONTAINED WITHIN THIS POLICY, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY, MANY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE.
IN FACT, RECENT STUDIES SHOW THAT 57 PERCENT OF TECHNOLOGY AND BUSINESS EXECUTIVES AND FORTUNE 1000 COMPANIES HAD APPOINTED THIS CHIEF DATA OFFICER ROLE.
AND IT'S ALSO VERY COMMON IN GOVERNMENT TODAY AS WELL.
NOW, ONE THING TO NOTE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITHIN THIS POLICY IS NOT CREATING A NEW POSITION OR HIRING SOMEBODY NEW FOR THAT CHIEF DATA OFFICER ROLE.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO IDENTIFY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY SORT OF INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR DEALING WITH DATA.
BUT WE WOULD EXPECT THAT WITHIN THIS POLICY, THAT ROLE WOULD BE FILLED BY OUR CURRENT DATA SCIENCE AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE MANAGER.
THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL POSITION BEING ASKED FOR NO ADDITIONAL BUDGET INCREASE, NO ADDITIONAL POSITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR POLICY BECAUSE FRANKLY, A LOT OF THIS ROLE, THE CHIEF DATA OFFICER IS ALREADY BEING CARRIED OUT WITH THAT POSITION.
THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AND IT WAS CLEAR WITHIN THE JOB DESCRIPTION WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THIS THAT THOSE ARE THE SORT OF ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING.
SO I'M GOING TO TURN THINGS OVER NOW TO DAVE VAN GILLUWE AS HE'S GOING TO DRIVE INTO OUR FOUR PILLARS OF DATA DRIVEN GOVERNMENT AND HOW WE ARE APPROACHING OUR DATA DRIVEN
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DECISION MAKING.I'LL BE GOING OVER THE POLICY DESIGN, OVERVIEW AND THE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS PROPOSED POLICY.
WE'VE STRUCTURED IT INTO FOUR PILLARS AND THEY ARE DATA CLASSIFICATION, DATA PROTECTION, DATA QUALITY AND DATA PUBLICATION AS WELL.
STEERING THE DATA PROGRAM WILL BE THE DATA GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE THAT ACTS UPON THE GUIDANCE FROM THE PROPOSED POLICY.
BUT LET'S DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE ELEMENTS OF THE FRAMEWORK.
THINKING ABOUT THE FIRST PILLAR OF DATA CLASSIFICATION, WE'RE FOCUSING ON ENSURING THAT OUR DATA ASSETS ARE CATEGORIZED IN A MANNER THAT ALLOWS FOR EASY SEARCHING AND CLEAR LINES OF WHAT IS IS NOT RESTRICTED DATA AND HOW LONG DATA SHOULD BE RETAINED.
THINK OF IT LIKE THE DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM FOR LIBRARIES AND BOOKS AND HOW WE EFFICIENTLY SEARCH FOR DATA ACROSS THE CITY.
AND IF WE CANNOT FIND THE DATA, WE CANNOT USE IT.
OUR SECOND PILLAR IS COMPRISED OF DATA PROTECTION MEASURES THAT PUTS IN PLACE AGENCY WIDE PROTOCOLS AND AUDITS OF DATA ACCESS.
WE'RE IMPROVING EXISTING PROTECTION MEASURES AND A STANDARDIZED BACKUP PROCESS SET BY OUR DATA CLASSIFICATION AND RETENTION PILLAR.
THIS MATTERS BECAUSE DATA IS A POWERFUL TOOL IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE, AND SECURING THESE ASSETS FROM DESTRUCTION OR THEFT IS PARAMOUNT TO THE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR CITY'S DATA.
OUR THIRD PILLAR IS DATA QUALITY, ENSURING THAT THE DATA WE COLLECT IS CREATED AND MAINTAINED IN A WAY THAT ENSURES HIGH QUALITY INSIGHTS AND ACCURATE INFORMATION TO ACT UPON.
EVERYONE HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN ENSURING THE QUALITY OF OUR DATA, AND IT IS TRULY A TEAM SPORT ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
IT'S LIKE PICKING STRAWBERRIES IN A FIELD, CULTIVATING AND COLLECTING RIPE AND USABLE DATA INSIGHTS REQUIRES TRAINING AND PROCESS TO HARVEST TRUE VALUE.
OUR FOURTH PILLAR IS DATA PUBLICATION WITH STANDARDS AND CLASSIFICATION PROTECTION AND DATA QUALITY ESTABLISHED.
WE CAN BUILD A FRAMEWORK FOR GREATER TRANSPARENCY BY SHARING LIVE INSIGHTS, RAW OPERATIONAL DATA AND OPPORTUNITIES TO FOSTER ENGAGEMENT AND PARTICIPATION IN HOW THE CITY OPERATES.
OUR PROGRESS TOWARDS COUNCIL GOALS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE THE CITY'S WORK IN ACTION BY THE NUMBERS.
IMPROVING TRANSPARENCY HAS BEEN A COMMON GOAL FOR THIS AND PREVIOUS COUNCILS.
AND OVER THESE FOUR PILLARS, DATA GOVERNANCE IS REQUIRED TO BRING TOGETHER THE CITY'S INFORMATION AS A UNIFIED STRATEGIC ASSET.
THE DATA GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE OVERSEES THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION AND GOVERNANCE ADMINISTRATION OF THE FOUR MAIN PILLARS OUTLINED WITHIN THIS POLICY.
THE COMMITTEE LEADS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ANNUAL CITYWIDE DATA CENSUS THAT CATALOGS KEY DATA ASSETS THAT POWER CITY OPERATIONS AND SERVES AS A STANDING RESOURCE FOR THE CLASSIFICATION REVIEW, AUDITS QUALITY AND IDENTIFIES OPERATIONAL READINESS FOR GREATER PUBLICATION AND TRANSPARENCY OF THE CITY'S DATA.
THE CARLSBAD STAFF MEMBER IN THE ROLE OF CHIEF DATA OFFICER WILL CHAIR THE DATA GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, BUT TRULY PROPER GOVERNANCE IS NOT COMPRISED OF JUST ONE ROLE.
IT TAKES A VILLAGE AND A TEAM OF LEADERS WITHIN THE CITY.
MERGING PEOPLE PROCESS AND TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE THIS DATA ACTIONABLE, ACCURATE AND AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS THE FRAMEWORK FOR DATA DRIVEN GOVERNMENT DONE RIGHT.
AND SO WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS HERE? SO THE BUDGET FOR THE DATA ACTIVITIES WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE FY 21-22 OPERATING BUDGET AND THE SDTIP THAT YOU APPROVED.
IF THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED TODAY, STAFF WILL BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS POLICY.
THE DATA GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE WILL HOLD ITS FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE POLICY BACK TO THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT APPROACH THAT WE ALWAYS TAKE THAT WILL OCCUR IN THE SPRING TO MAKE SURE IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED PROPERLY.
THEN THERE WILL BE AN ANNUAL DATA CENSUS THAT WILL BE CONDUCTED AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRAIN FOLKS ACROSS ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN WORKING WITH DATA.
AND THEN A 12 MONTH POLICY AND PROGRAM REVIEW WILL OCCUR, AND ANY CHANGES THAT ARE NECESSARY WOULD BE MADE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THOUGH NONE ARE REALLY EXPECTED AS OF NOW.
AND SO THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY ARE THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THE CITYWIDE DATA POLICY AND PROGRAM.
THAT'S THE RESOLUTION THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU.
WE DID ALSO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL WISH TO HAVE ITS OWN COUNCIL POLICY AS A PART OF YOUR BEVY OF COUNCIL POLICIES.
WE CAN COME BACK WITH A COUNCIL POLICY FOR YOUR DIRECT APPROVAL AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY PORTFOLIO.
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IT WOULD LIKELY BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE PURPOSE AND POLICY STATEMENT THAT'S AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DATA POLICY THAT'S HERE IN ADDITION TO ANY DIRECTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WERE TO PROVIDE TONIGHT.OR OF COURSE, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO TAKE NO ACTION REGARDING THIS TODAY.
SO WITH THAT, THAT COMPLETES OUR PRESENTATION.
WE'RE OPEN FOR THOUGHTS, DISCUSSION, DIRECTION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU TONIGHT.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 10, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY OR PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, MAYOR.
OK, ANY COMMENTS ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? OK, DR. BHAT-PATEL AND THEN MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA HAS HER HAND RAISED AS WELL.
YEAH, IT WAS A PRETTY CLOSE DRAW RIGHT THERE, SO I GAVE IT TO DR.
THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY FOR ME.
I KNOW THAT AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY BRING, YOU KNOW, TO THE FOREFRONT MORE EFFICIENT WAYS OF US DEALING WITH OUR DATA.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT WAY TO REALLY DO THAT AND ADDRESS THAT.
AND AGAIN, I THINK IT ALL COMES DOWN TO MAKING SURE OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE IS OUR PRIORITY AND TOP OF MIND AND THAT THIS DEFINITELY WILL SPEAK TO THAT AND HOPEFULLY REALLY STREAMLINE THAT FOR OUR CONSTITUENCY.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE QUESTION AND THEN OF COURSE, I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS WOULDN'T BE ADDING ON ANOTHER POSITION.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT AND I WAS GLAD YOU ADDED THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT PIECE THAT THE CHIEF DATA OFFICER WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WHICH IS OUR OTHER DAVID THAT'S HERE TODAY.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND THIS IS THE ENTIRE INTENT OF WHY THAT POSITION WAS ADDED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND SO THE CHIEF DATA OFFICER ROLE WITHIN THE POLICY IS SO THAT THERE'S REALLY AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE MEETING SORT OF INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES BY HAVING THAT ROLE.
IT IS NOT A NEW PERSON, IT WOULD BE FILLED BY THE EXISTING POSITION THAT THE COUNCIL ALREADY APPROVED.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING FORMALIZED AND PUT TOGETHER AS WE START TO MOVE FORWARD IN TERMS OF HAVING A CITYWIDE DATA POLICY.
I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE BEEN ON THE FOREFRONT OF OUR, I BELIEVE OUR TEAM HAD WON AWARDS FOR IT.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SEE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP PUTTING US ON THE MAP.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
I ALSO HAD SOME OF THE SAME KIND OF QUESTIONS, AND I READ THROUGH VERY CAREFULLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
IT DID SOUND FROM THE WAY SOME THINGS WERE WRITTEN THAT ANOTHER POSITION, A NEW WORK PLAN WAS BEING CREATED AND I KNOW THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED AND ADDRESSED.
AND IT'S REALLY JUST REFINING THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING NOW AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT CONSISTENT, CONSISTENT POLICY AND PROGRAM FOR THAT.
SO I SEE HERE THAT WE'VE GOT THESE VARIOUS OPTIONS ONE, TWO AND THREE AND THREE WOULD BE TAKE NO ACTION AND NOT IMPLEMENT THIS POLICY AND PROGRAM.
ONE SEEMS TO BE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THE CITYWIDE DATA POLICY AND PROGRAM, AND TWO IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT CITYWIDE DATA POLICY AND PROGRAM AND DIRECT STAFF TO HAVE A COUNCIL POLICY SO THAT THE BUCK STOPS KIND OF WITH THE COUNCIL.
AND I DO THINK WITH SOMETHING AS SENSITIVE AS PERHAPS SOME MORE CONFIDENTIAL DATA THAT IT'S REALLY GOOD STOP WITH THE COUNCIL.
SO I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA OF HAVING STAFF COME BACK TO US AT THE COUNCIL WITH THE POLICY FOR THESE KINDS OF THINGS, COLLECTING AND RETENTION OF DATA AND SAFETY AND SECURITY BECAUSE CYBERSECURITY IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE ON TOP OF.
SO I DEFINITELY LIKE OPTION TWO BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO KIND OF PUT OUR BLESSING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL TRANSPARENTLY SEE WHAT THE POLICY IS AND THEN KIND OF CAN CAN GIVE OUR
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BLESSING TO THAT.SO I LIKE OPTION TWO THE BEST, AND I'M GRATEFUL TO YOU AND ALL OF OUR TEAM FOR REALLY FOCUSING ON THIS.
ALL THE DATA THAT WE'RE COLLECTING, WE TALK ABOUT GOOGLE, AND SOME OF THESE COMPANIES ARE BROWSERS THAT ARE COLLECTING ALL THIS DATA.
WHAT ARE THEY ACTUALLY DOING WITH IT? WHERE IS IT GOING? AND YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO BE KEPT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO I KNOW THAT IT'S KIND OF THE WILD WEST OUT THERE IN SOME WAYS, BUT AT LEAST WE, HERE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD CAN GIVE SOME ASSURANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE BEING VERY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE USE AND SECURITY OF OUR DATA.
MR. NORBY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? MR. BLACKBURN, ANY COMMENT? NO COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THOUGHTS ON CHOICE NUMBER ONE OR CHOICE NUMBER TWO, I DID GET TO HEAR MS. ACOSTA, BUT NOT THE OTHERS.
MR. NORBY [INAUDIBLE] CHOICE ONE OR TWO.
WITH RESPECT TO ONE OR TWO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NUMBER TWO IS WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA SAID IT IS.
IT GIVES US SOME SORT OF I KNOW IN YOUR GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE IT IS WHAT IT IS.
WE'RE ALWAYS ON TOP, WHETHER IT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE OR TWO, BUT NUMBER TWO, GIVE US KIND OF IS IT LIKE TWO PARALLELS POLICY FOR US, TO THE POLICY FOR STAFF? OR IS THE GOAL OF A COUNCIL POLICY IS TO GIVE US SOME OVERSIGHT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON? IF YOU COULD ANSWER THAT.
SO STAFF DID NOT WANT TO PRESUME THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO ADOPT ITS OWN COUNCIL POLICY.
THERE'S A SERIES OF COUNCIL POLICIES THAT EXIST, AND SO THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS REGARDING WHAT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE A COUNCIL POLICY.
THE IMPORTANT POINT HERE IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY, ET CETERA, THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO ADAPT AND CHANGE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT LED TO BEING ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT IF THE CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THEIR SLATE OF COUNCIL POLICIES THAT THEY APPROVED, WE CAN COME BACK WITH A HIGH LEVEL POLICY THAT WOULD MEET THAT TEST AND IT'S NOT PARALLEL.
IT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'D BE AUTHORIZING TODAY, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT'S ENOUGH INFORMATION.
I WOULD AT LEAST WANT TO SEE WHAT COMES BACK, SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF OPTION TWO.
DOCTOR? YEAH, WITH THAT INFORMATION, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION TWO AS WELL.
YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? SURE.
MY MOTION IS ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION WITH OPTION NUMBER TWO IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
MOVING ON TO ITEM 11 UPDATE ON CRIME STATISTICS AND POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE
[11. UPDATE ON CRIME STATISTICS AND POLICE DEPARTMENT’S RESPONSE TO CRIME TRENDS]
TO CRIME TRENDS AND WITH THAT, MR. CHADWICK, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE INTRODUCTIONS.CERTAINLY AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS CAPTAIN CHRISTIE CALDERWOOD.
'EVENING, MAYOR HALL AND RESPECTIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN.
CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY SCREEN? PERFECT.
SO TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL INCLUDE AN OVERVIEW OF SANDAG MID-YEAR CRIME STATS IN RELATION TO CARLSBAD, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CRIME ANALYSIS AND RESPONSE MODEL, AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH TO ADDRESSING CRIME.
THE FBI CRIME INDEX AND THE CHART HERE IS SPECIFIC TO CARLSBAD IF COMPARING 2021 TO 2019.
YOU CAN SEE THAT ALMOST EVERY CATEGORY OF CRIME IS DOWN.
IF WE COMPARE, 2021 TO 2020, MANY CATEGORIES SHOW AN INCREASE.
UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, THIS MAY BE CONCERNING.
BUT WHEN COMPARING THESE STATISTICS, WE MUST CONSIDER THE UNPRECEDENTED YEAR THAT 2020 BROUGHT.
THE STAY AT HOME ORDER AND OTHER MAJOR CHANGES BROUGHT A DIP IN CRIME IN MANY CATEGORIES IN 2020.
THEREFORE, AS WE GET BACK TO NORMAL LIFE, IF YOU WILL, 2021 SHOWS AN INCREASE IN COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR.
IN PREPARING FOR THIS PRESENTATION, I CONFERRED WITH DR.
BURKE VIA EMAIL, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FOR SANDAG.
DR. BURKE DOES ADVISE IN HER PRESENTATIONS THAT DUE TO 2020 BEING AN UNPRECEDENTED YEAR WITH LOCKDOWNS AND OTHER DRASTIC SOCIETAL CHANGES, IT IS MORE REALISTIC TO COMPARE
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THE CURRENT YEAR TO STATISTICS TO YEARS PREVIOUS TO 2020.IF WE LOOK AT PREVIOUS YEARS, THE SANDAG REPORT SHOWS THAT THE OVERALL CRIME RATE IN CARLSBAD INCREASED BY ONE PERCENT FROM 2017 TO 2021.
WHEN COMPARING VIOLENT CRIMES, CARLSBAD HAD A DECREASE OF ONE PERCENT FROM 2017 TO 2021.
WITH PROPERTY CRIMES, CARLSBAD HAD AN INCREASE OF ONE PERCENT FROM 2107 TO 2021.
AND WHEN COMPARING MID-YEAR CRIME STATISTICS, AS IN THIS CRIME INDEX HERE FROM 2021 TO 2019, SANDAG NOTES THAT VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN IN CARLSBAD AND THE PROPERTY CRIME STATISTICS ARE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH PREVIOUS YEARS.
AS I SAID, 2020 BASED OFF OF THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING THAT CAME WITH IT IS A YEAR THAT SANDAG, DR. BURKE ADVISED, IS QUITE THE ANOMALY.
I WILL ADDRESS THE SLIGHT INCREASE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TO REDUCE CRIME WHILE PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE.
WE DO THIS THROUGH PROACTIVE CRIME ANALYSIS AND RESPONSE.
THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT DEPLOYS A CRIME ANALYSIS AND RESPONSE MODEL TO COORDINATE ITS CRIME, INVESTIGATION AND PREVENTION.
COMMUNICATION IS A KEY COMPONENT IN THIS ANALYSIS AND RESPONSE MODEL, ALLOWING OUR OFFICERS TO DIRECT THEIR ENFORCEMENT AND INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS INTELLIGENTLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
NOT ONLY DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FIND IT IMPORTANT TO CONSISTENTLY COMMUNICATE TO THOSE WE SERVE, BUT ALSO TO COMMUNICATE OUR EFFORTS INTERNALLY IN ORDER TO CREATE FUTURE PLANS THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH THE MISSION OF FIGHTING CRIME WHILE PROVIDING THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE ENTAILS A CULTURE THAT WE INGRAINED INTO EVERY OFFICER UPON HIRING THAT NO CALL IS TOO SMALL.
THIS INTERNAL COMMUNICATION FOR CRIME ANALYSIS INCLUDES, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE SLIDE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WATCH COMMANDERS MEETING ON A WEEKLY BASIS WITH THE CRIME ANALYSTS TO DISCUSS REAL TIME DATA IN TERMS OF RECENT ARRESTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
CRIME TRENDS, CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, FUTURE PLANS TO SOLVE AND PREVENT CRIME WITHIN THE CITY.
ADDITIONALLY, EVERY QUARTER, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CONDUCTS A MEETING WHICH INCLUDES THE CRIME ANALYSTS, PATROL AND INVESTIGATIONS MANAGERS, ALONG WITH THE SUPERVISORS THAT OVERSEE THE CRIME SUPPRESSION TEAM AND HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM.
THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH THE DEPARTMENT'S COMMAND STAFF ARE INTENDED TO FOSTER AN OPEN FLOW OF COMMUNICATION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT ON HOW EACH UNIT IS USING THE CRIME STATS, TRENDS AND ULTIMATELY THE DEPARTMENT'S RESOURCES TO PATROL THE STREETS, CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS AND PREVENT CRIME.
THE DEPARTMENT DEPLOYS A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH, COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERSHIPS, DIRECTED ENFORCEMENT, EDUCATION AND FINALLY TECHNOLOGY TOOLS.
EACH PRONG IN THE DEPARTMENT'S MODEL FOR ADDRESSING CRIME GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE OTHER WHEN A CRIME TREND OR SERIES IS IDENTIFIED.
EACH OF THESE PRONGS IS DEPLOYED IN AN EFFORT TO ADDRESS CRIME THROUGH INTELLIGENCE LED POLICING, WITH THE GOAL OF MAKING CARLSBAD THE SAFEST CITY IN SAN DIEGO.
I'LL, NOW GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE PRONGS.
COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERSHIPS, ALL POLICE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL EMBRACES RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE ASSOCIATION, CARLSBAD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, CARLSBAD EQUITY COALITION AND MANY OTHER COMMUNITY ENTITIES.
WE BELIEVE AS PUBLIC SERVANTS MAINTAIN CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION AND POSITIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR PARTNERS WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, THE SAN DIEGO REGION AND BEYOND IS A DRIVING FORCE IN OUR SUCCESS IN REGARDS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERSHIPS.
THESE PARTNERSHIPS AND CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION WITH ALLIED AGENCIES, THE DA'S OFFICE AND OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS CREATE A FORCE MULTIPLIER WHEN IT COMES TO FIGHTING CRIME IN OUR CITY.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IDENTIFIES CRIME TRENDS AND ROUTINELY WORKS WITH SURROUNDING LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO ADDRESS THEM AS A TEAM.
SANDAG REPORTED AN INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES IN CARLSBAD WITH 88 BY MIDYEAR 2021, COMPARED TO 80 IN MIDYEAR 2019.
THE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSE SERVES AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE ADDRESS A RISING CRIME VIA LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERSHIPS AND CRIME ANALYSIS.
IN AUGUST, 2021 PATROL OFFICERS WERE NOTIFIED OF A SERIES OF PROPERTY CRIMES OCCURRING IN THE SOUTHERN AREA OF THE CITY.
OFFICERS BEGAN TO MEET WITH VICTIMS TO TAKE CRIME REPORTS, GATHER EVIDENCE AND NOTIFIED THAT PARTICULAR DETECTIVE IN CHARGE OF THAT AREA.
THE PROPERTY CRIMES DETECTIVE THEN COLLABORATED WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAD EXPERIENCED A SIMILAR SERIES IN SAN MARCOS, NEAR THE BORDER OF CARLSBAD.
UPON IDENTIFYING A SUSPECT, THE DETECTIVES CONDUCTED A SEARCH WARRANT ON THE SUSPECT'S HOME AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF STOLEN PROPERTY FROM MULTIPLE BURGLARIES WAS RECOVERED IN RETURN OF THE VICTIMS. THE SUSPECT GAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING HIS ACCOMPLICE THROUGH INTERVIEWS IN BOTH SUBJECTS WERE BOOKED ON SUSPICION OF BURGLARY, CONSPIRACY, POSSESSION OF
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STOLEN PROPERTY AND OTHER CHARGES.THE PROPERTY CRIMES DETECTIVE ALSO WORKED WITH THE COUNTY PROBATION DEPARTMENT TO GET A PROBATION HOLD PLACED ON THE SUSPECTS, AS WELL AS ADDED BAIL ENHANCEMENT.
THERE IS A LOT MORE TO THIS CASE, BUT DUE TO THE SANDAG INCREASE IN PROPERTY CRIMES, I JUST WANT TO SHOW THIS AS JUST ONE OF MANY EXAMPLES OF THE DEPARTMENT'S SUCCESSFUL COLLABORATION WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
OUR NEXT PRONG IS EDUCATION, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, PARTNERING WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS, EVENTS SUCH AS COFFEE WITH A COP, PRESENTATIONS AT ROTARY CLUBS, TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN EACH DISTRICT OR JUST SIMPLY CONVERSING ONE ON ONE WITH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LOOKS FOR EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC WE SERVE AND KEEP THEM APPRIZED OF WHAT WE WERE DOING TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN WHEN WE SEE AN UPTICK IN THEFTS FROM VEHICLES.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TAKES PART IN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN VIA SOCIAL MEDIA AND VOLUNTEERS HAND OUT FLYERS, WHICH IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE EMPHASIS WE PUT ON BRINGING AWARENESS TO THE PUBLIC ON TRULY REMOVING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CRIMINALS TO GAIN ACCESS TO THEIR VEHICLE BY LOCKING THEIR DOORS, REMOVING THEIR VALUABLES AND PARKING IN WELL-LIT AREAS OR GARAGE WHEN POSSIBLE.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE'S WHEN WE SEE INCREASED COMPLAINTS REGARDING E-BIKES IN THE CITY VIOLATING TRAFFIC LAWS, WHICH WE DID THIS PAST SUMMER, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TEAMED UP WITH THE CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY COMMUNICATION ENGAGEMENT TEAM TO HOLD A WEBINAR FOR PARENTS AND KIDS ON E-BIKE SAFETY LAWS.
THIS EFFORT IS COUPLED WITH REACHING OUT TO THE SAN DIEGO BICYCLE COALITION TO ADVERTISE CLASSES ALONG WITH THE SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN AND ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT PRONGS, ENFORCEMENT.
THE DEPARTMENT DEPLOYS PATROL OFFICERS, TRAFFIC OFFICERS, DETECTIVES FROM THE INVESTIGATIONS BUREAU, CRIME, ANALYSTS, CRIME SUPPRESSION TEAM AND A HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM AMONG OTHER RESOURCES TO COMBAT CRIME.
ALL OF THESE TEAMS LOOK AT THE TRENDS OCCURRING WITHIN THE CITY AND ADDRESS THOSE TRENDS PROACTIVELY THROUGH INTELLIGENCE LED POLICING.
A RECENT EXAMPLE IS THE UPTICK IN CRIME RELATED TO THEFTS OF CATALYTIC CONVERTERS.
SANDAG REPORTED THERE WAS A VARIATION IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 2021 IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF LARCENY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, WITH THEFT OF MOTOR VEHICLE PARTS AND ACCESSORIES INCREASING THE MOST FOLLOWED BY THEFT FROM MOTOR VEHICLES.
AFTER SEEING AN INCREASE ACROSS THE NATION AND SPECIFICALLY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY IN CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFTS OUR CRIME ANALYST AND PROPERTY CRIMES DETECTIVES TEAMED UP WITH DETECTIVES FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND THE DA'S OFFICE TO CREATE A WORKING GROUP THAT IS CONSISTENTLY SHARING INFORMATION AND FINDING WAYS TO TRACK THE TREND AND MAKE ARRESTS.
JUST THIS AUGUST, A PATROL OFFICER CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STOP ON A VEHICLE ON AN AREA NEAR THE I-5 CORRIDOR, IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA RIPE FOR CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFTS, WHICH TURNED INTO AN ARREST FOR POSSESSION OF THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS AND OTHER STOLEN PROPERTY.
JUST LAST MONTH, A PATROL SERGEANT MADE A TRAFFIC STOP ON A SUSPICIOUS VEHICLE THAT LED TO AN ARREST INSIDE THE VEHICLE.
THE OFFICER, LOCATED FOUR FRESHLY CUT CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, STOLEN MAIL FROM NUMEROUS VICTIMS, SEVERAL CALIFORNIA LICENSE PLATES AND STOLEN CREDIT CARDS.
SIMILAR ARRESTS WERE MADE THIS MONTH AFTER PLAINCLOTHES DETECTIVES WERE CONDUCTING ANOTHER OPERATION AND WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND ARREST A BURGLARY SUSPECT.
IN ADDITION TO FINDING WAYS TO WORK WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS, OUR OFFICERS ARE CONSISTENTLY CONDUCTING DIRECTED ENFORCEMENT WHEN NOT RESPONDING TO 911 CALLS FOR SERVICE, WITH PROPERTY CRIMES BEING THE MOST COMMON TYPE OF CRIME IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
THE LINK TO NARCOTICS MUST BE ADDRESSED AS WELL.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT MANY TIMES THE ARREST OF AN OFFENDER FOR PROPERTY CRIMES LEADS TO AN ARREST FOR NARCOTICS OR AN ARREST FOR NARCOTICS LEADS TO A PROPERTY CRIME ARREST.
SANDAG NOTED, IN TWENTY SIXTEEN THAT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF MALE ADULT ARRESTEES AND SEVENTY FOUR PERCENT OF FEMALE ADULT ARRESTEES BOOKED INTO THE JAIL TESTED POSITIVE FOR AN ILLICIT SUBSTANCE, AND THAT AT LEAST TWO IN EVERY THREE ADULTS WERE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ONE OR MORE DRUGS WHEN TAKEN INTO CUSTODY.
FINALLY, OUR LAST PRONG, WHICH IS TECHNOLOGY TOOLS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CONSISTENTLY LOOKING AT BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENT WAYS TO ADDRESS AND PREVENT CRIME.
WE ARE COGNIZANT THAT IN THE CURRENT DIGITAL AGE, TECHNOLOGY AIDS, AS WELL AS THE MOST CURRENT TOOLS SUCH AS E-BIKES AND BODY WORN CAMERAS, CAN BOLSTER OUR EFFECTIVENESS AS A POLICE AGENCY.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY DEPLOYS OFFICERS ON E-BIKES, CAMERAS IN MULTIPLE PARKS, SKYWATCH TOWER AT SPECIAL EVENTS, A DEPLOYABLE SURVEILLANCE TRAILER AND HOTSPOT AREAS, AND LICENSE PLATE READERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THESE TOOLS ARE ABLE TO BE IN PLACES WHERE OFFICERS ARE NOT AND HAVE A PROVEN HISTORY OF ASSISTING OFFICERS IN SOLVING CASES.
WITH CARLSBAD, BEING WELL ON ITS WAY TO BECOMING THE REGION'S NEXT SMART CITY.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CONTINUALLY LOOKING AT NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN KEEP US AHEAD OF THE CURVE IN DETERRING AND SOLVING CRIME.
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IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE ONLY COVER TWO EXAMPLES OF WAYS WE ARE PROACTIVELY ADDRESSING PROPERTY CRIMES IN THE CITY, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT EACH DIVISION AND TEAM IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CONDUCTING ENFORCEMENT AND EDUCATION ON A DAILY BASIS TO IMPACT EVERY TYPE OF CRIME.IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR DETECTIVES EMPLOY A STRATEGY IN THEIR APPROACH TO CASES, WHETHER THEY ARE PROPERTY CRIMES OR VIOLENT CRIMES.
THEY AIM TO REDUCE OVERALL CRIME IN THE LONG TERM.
THAT STRATEGY IS TO INVESTIGATE EACH CRIME TO THE FULLEST EXTENT AND BUILD THE BEST CASE POSSIBLE AGAINST THE OFFENDERS.
THE FACT IS, THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT PRIDES ITSELF ON MAKING AN IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY AND DEPLOYING OUR MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH TO ENSURE THAT CARLSBAD REMAINS THE SAFEST CITY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL END MY PRESENTATION AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'LL STOP SHARING MY SCREEN HERE.
WELL, CAPTAIN CALDERWOOD, THAT WAS VERY WELL DONE, VERY, VERY WELL DONE.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 11, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND NOW OR PRESS STAR NINE.
QUESTIONS OF CAPTAIN CALDERWOOD.
AND THANK YOU, CAPTAIN, FOR GOING OVER ALL OF THIS AND FOR JUST GIVING US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND WHAT THE TRENDS LOOK LIKE.
AND JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE, I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN QUITE A FEW.
AT LEAST I HAVE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS AROUND WHAT THE TRENDS WERE, AND I APPRECIATE IT ON THE FIRST PAGE.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A QUICK BREAKDOWN OF THE RATES FROM 2017 TO 2020 AND THEN 2020 TO 2021.
SO I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THIS IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND REITERATING AGAIN, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE IN TERMS OF CHANGES FROM 2017 TO NOW AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHY WE SAW A CHANGE IN FROM 2020 TO NOW.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE.
SO THE SANDAG REPORT, LIKE I SAID IN COMPARING STATISTICS FROM THIS YEAR TO LAST YEAR, WE REALLY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND SOME THINGS THAT 2020 BROUGHT.
BURKE, WHO WORKS WITH SANDAG, SHE ADVISED LOOKING AT PREVIOUS YEARS.
SO IN THE ANALYSIS, WE LOOKED AT 2017 AS WELL AS 2019 WHEN COMPARING VIOLENT CRIMES WORLDWIDE HAD A DECREASE OF ONE PERCENT FROM 2017 TO 2021.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE THE OVERALL COUNTY HAS SEEN AN INCREASE IN VIOLENT CRIMES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WHEN COMPARING MID-YEAR CRIME STATISTICS FOR 2021 TO 2019, SANDAG NOTES THAT VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN IN CARLSBAD AND PROPERTY CRIME STATISTICS ARE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH PREVIOUS YEARS, WITH THE OVERALL NUMBERS SHOWING A DECREASE FROM 2019.
CARLSBAD DID SHOW A SLIGHT INCREASE OF ONE PERCENT IN PROPERTY CRIMES FROM 2017 TO 2021, WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO, BUT MOST OF THE PRESENTATION WAS KIND OF WHAT WE ARE DOING SPECIFICALLY IN RELATION TO PROPERTY CRIMES AND OUR DIRECTED ENFORCEMENT OR EDUCATION AND WHAT WE ARE DOING ON A DAILY BASIS TO COMBAT THAT.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST A QUESTION THAT I KNOW SOMETIMES FOR SPECIFIC AREAS, I'M SURE SOME OF US WILL ASK, HEY, CAN YOU PATROL THIS AREA A LITTLE BIT MORE? WE'RE GETTING SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
DO YOU FEEL THAT SOMETIMES AND THIS IS JUST ME ASKING OFF THE CUFF, LIKE, DO YOU FEEL SOMETIMES THAT IF THERE IS INCREASED PATROLLING IN A SPECIFIC AREA THAT HOPEFULLY THAT IS ACTING AS A DETERRENT FOR ANY OF THESE PARTICULAR CRIMES? ABSOLUTELY, YES.
THANK YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE AT LEAST FOR MYSELF, I KNOW WHENEVER I'VE ASKED OUR TEAM, HEY, I NEED INCREASED PATROL IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WITHOUT A DOUBT, OUR TEAM SENDS MORE FOLKS OUT THAT WAY OR MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE CYCLING THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE DAY IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.
AND SOMETIMES I KNOW WE'LL GET CALLS.
HEY, WHY ARE THERE MORE POLICE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, CYCLING BY? BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THAT AS A DETERRENT SOMETIMES FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS TO
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HAPPEN.SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE, TOO, THAT OUR TEAM IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
CAPTAIN CALDERWOOD, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
OBVIOUSLY, LAST YEAR, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE RELEASED OUT OF JAILS, AND IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE PUT BACK OUT ON THE STREETS.
DO YOU ATTRIBUTE ANY OF THE RISE IN CRIME OR MAYBE EVEN THROUGHOUT THE REGION FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO PERHAPS GIVEN EARLY OUTS OR WERE LET OUT OUT OF A JAIL FACILITY PREMATURE? I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE OF 2020 AND WHAT CAME WITH IT IN REGARDS TO THE ZERO CASH BAIL AND PRISONERS BEING RELEASED.
SO I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL DATA FORTHCOMING.
WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN WHERE WE ARREST CERTAIN PEOPLE AND THEY ARE OUT MUCH QUICKER THAN THEY USED TO BE, SO WE COULD ARREST SOMEBODY FOR A FELONY TODAY AND A YEAR AGO WHERE THEY MAY BE HELD FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS OR EVEN WEEKS.
THEY MAY BE OUT TOMORROW BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN LEGISLATION, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES TO THE JAIL SYSTEM WITH COVID.
LIKE I SAID, 2020 HAS BROUGHT SO MANY SOCIETAL CHANGES THAT WE DIDN'T SEE COMING BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, BUT WE ARE DEALING WITH THE PANDEMIC.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION OR NOT, BUT CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PLACES YOU CAN SELL THOSE, SO, WAS THERE A COMMON OCCURRENCE ABOUT WHERE THEY MIGHT BE GOING OR TO A LOCATION OR WAS THAT FOLLOWED UP ON? YEAH, SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE SPECIFIC TO THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFTS.
OUR DETECTIVES DO REACH OUT TO THE RECYCLE METAL PLACES TO TRY AND WORK WITH THEM.
WE ALSO HAVE A DA ON BOARD, A DISTRICT ATTORNEY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AND OUR WORKING GROUP, AND SHE'S ACTUALLY TRYING TO OFFER LEGISLATION TO GO FORWARD TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO POSSESS A FRESHLY CUT, FORCIBLY TAKEN CATALYTIC CONVERTER.
A LOT OF THE TIMES RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE'RE MAKING STOPS ON PEOPLE AND THEY HAVE THEM IN THEIR POSSESSION, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO POSSESS THEM.
SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO LOCATE A VICTIM.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS WE'RE WORKING WITH A LOCAL AUTO BODY SHOP IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO POTENTIALLY HOLD AN EVENT WHERE THEY PROVIDE FREE VIN ENGRAVINGS, WHICH WOULD HELP IF THEY WERE STOLEN FOR US TO IDENTIFY A VICTIM.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES.
THERE'S DIFFERENT CLAMPS AND THINGS THAT ARE SOLD TO PROTECT THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT WORKING GROUP THAT OUR CRIME ANALYST CINDY ANDERSON AND ONE OF OUR DETECTIVES HAS PUT TOGETHER WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO TRY AND FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO MAKE THIS STOP.
AND THAT MIGHT BE FEDERAL LEGISLATION ALSO.
I MEAN, ON THE DEALERS OR ON THE MANUFACTURER'S PART, BECAUSE A CAR HAS PROBABLY AT LEAST A DOZEN PLACES WHERE THE VIN NUMBER IS SOMEHOW LABELED OR ENCRYPTED INTO INTO THE BODY OR DIFFERENT PARTS OF A VEHICLE.
SO THAT I KNOW THAT ANYBODY WHO'S PURCHASING CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, THERE'S QUITE A PROCESS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO ME WHERE WHO IS ACTUALLY ENDING UP WITH THOSE SO.
AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WAS A VERY, VERY GOOD PRESENTATION, VERY INFORMATIVE.
OH, I DO HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
AS A COMMUNITY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU? IS THINGS LIKE RING ALARMS OR NEST OR BIRD ALARMS, DO THOSE HAVE VALUE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WE AS CITIZENS, IF WE PUT THOSE ON OUR DOORS, DOES THAT HELP YOU IN ANY WAY? ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
RING CAMERAS, NEST CAMERAS, A LOT OF OUR SERIES SPECIFIC TO PROPERTY CRIMES ARE SOLVED BASED OFF OF HOMEOWNER SURVEILLANCE VIDEO FOOTAGE THAT THEY CAN SHARE WITH OUR DETECTIVES.
ANOTHER THING IS I THINK SOMETIMES CITIZENS ARE AFRAID TO CALL 9-1-1 BECAUSE THEY PERHAPS THINK THAT IF IT'S NOT A LIFE THREATENING EMERGENCY, THAT THEY SHOULDN'T CALL US.
SO WE JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO US TO EVEN IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE CALLING 911 CALL OUR NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER.
WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE 24/7 THAT ARE WILLING TO HELP AND WE WILL SEND A UNIFORMED OFFICER.
SO JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO US AND NOT BE AFRAID TO.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT OR--OKAY, NOT SEEING ANYBODY WAVE THEIR HANDS? I AGAIN WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
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SO MOVING ON TO ITEM 12, THE FUTURE OF SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES IN CARLSBAD, MR.[12. THE FUTURE OF SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES IN CARLSBAD]
CHADWICK.SURE, AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND MOBILITY MANAGER MR. NATHAN SCHMIDT.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ANNOUNCE BEFORE WE GET INTO THE STAFF PRESENTATION THAT I HAD DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, SOME OF MY INVESTMENTS FOR POTENTIAL CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM, AND NONE OF MY INVESTMENTS RELATE TO WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED HERE TODAY AND THE TYPES OF MOBILITY THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED.
THANK YOU FOR THAT DISCLOSURE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR PRO TEM, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M NATHAN SCHMIDT, THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND MOBILITY MANAGER FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION.
I WILL BE PROVIDING YOU WITH INFORMATION ABOUT SHARED MOBILITY, SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES WITH THE INTENT TO SEEK FEEDBACK FROM CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ON THE FUTURE AND DIRECTION OF SHARED MOBILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
FOR THE PRESENTATION, I'LL START OFF WITH PROVIDING YOU BACKGROUND ON WHAT SHARED MOBILITY IS AND THEN SHARE WHAT THEY ARE AND THEN PROVIDE THE BENEFITS DRAWBACKS OF THEM.
PROVIDE SOME REGIONAL CONTEXT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND THEN I'LL PROVIDE OPTIONS THAT STAFF HAS OUTLINED TO DETERMINE FOR THE NEXT STEPS THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD GO IN FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.
SO THE RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THIS ITEM IS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO RECEIVE INFORMATION ABOUT SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON THE FUTURE OF SHARED MOBILITY IN THE CITY.
FIRST, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND, SO IN 2008, SHARED MOBILITY REALLY STARTED FIRST COMING ON THE SCENE.
THAT'S WHEN THE DEVICES WERE FIRST POPPING UP IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS REALLY NO REGULATIONS OR RESTRICTIONS ON LIMITING THEIR USE, AND IT SOON BECAME AN APPARENT PUBLIC NUISANCE IN SAN DIEGO.
IN RESPONSE TO THAT IN 2019, CITY OF CARLSBAD ADDED MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION REGARDING SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES, WHICH PROHIBITS USING THE DEVICES FROM BEING ABANDONED OR PLACED FOR RENT WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
THEN IN 2020, ASSEMBLY BILL 186 WAS SIGNED INTO LAW, WHICH REQUIRES SHARED MOBILITY DEVICE OPERATORS TO ENTER INTO A PERMIT OR ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
THIS ASSEMBLY BILL ALSO REQUIRES VENDORS TO MAINTAIN IT REQUIRES LIMITS FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL LIABILITY INSURANCE COVERAGE.
REGARDING THIS LAST BULLET ON ON AB 1286 STAFF WILL BE INTRODUCING AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CURRENT SHARED MOBILITY ORDINANCE AT THE NOVEMBER CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WILL BRING OUR ORDINANCE IN LINE WITH THIS AB 1286 REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHAT OUR SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES, ESSENTIALLY THEY MEAN IT'S TYPICALLY AN ELECTRIC MOTORIZED BOARD, A SCOOTER AND AN ELECTRIC BICYCLE, OR EVEN A TRADITIONAL BICYCLE OR OTHER SIMILAR PERSONAL TRANSPORTATION DEVICE AS DEFINED BY THE CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE THAT IS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BY A SHARED MOBILITY SERVICE PROVIDER FOR SHARED USE AND TRANSPORTATION IN EXCHANGE FOR FEES FINANCIAL COMPENSATION.
THESE CAN BE EITHER STATION BASED, MEANING THEY ARE CALLED DOCKED SYSTEMS OR THEY CAN BE DOCK-LESS, WHICH ARE WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO PLACE THEM PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE WITHIN A JURISDICTION OR A CITY BASED UPON CURRENT PROHIBITION.
AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF SHARED MOBILITY ARE THE TRIP TYPES THAT THEY ARE INTENDED TO SERVE.
TYPICALLY, THEY SERVE SHORT TRIPS OF 30 MINUTES OR LESS.
THEY'RE REALLY DESIGNED TO DO THESE SHORT TRIPS VERSUS BIKE RUNS, WHICH ARE DESIGNED FOR MORE LONG TRIPS, DAY LONG TRIPS FOR RECREATION.
PRIMARY TRIP TYPES SERVED BY SHARED MOBILITY ARE OUTLINED HERE.
FIRST, IN REGARDS TO RESIDENTS AND COMMUTER TRIPS, THESE WOULD BE THE FIRST AND LAST MILE TRIPS WHAT WE CALL FIRST AND LAST MILE TO TRANSIT STATIONS.
A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF THIS WOULD BE IF A COMMUTER WAS COMING ON THE COASTER AND THEY WERE TAKING THAT TO CARLSBAD POINSETTIA STATION, THEY WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO, FROM THE STATION, TAKE A SHARED MOBILITY DEVICE TO EITHER THEIR EMPLOYMENT CENTER, SUCH AS ALONG AVENIDA FANCINESS OR PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD.
OR IT WOULD ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO LIVING NEAR POINSETTIA STATION TO TAKE A SHARED MOBILITY DEVICE FROM THEIR HOME TO THE STATION TO PROVIDE THAT ACCESS.
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THE IDEA IS TO AVOID PEOPLE EITHER TAKING THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLE FOR THESE SHORT TRIPS TO TRANSIT AND ALSO TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE TRANSIT.IT REALLY CUTS DOWN ON ONE, THE COST AND PROVIDES A CONVENIENT WAY TO GET TO THE TRANSIT STATION VERSUS WALKING.
ANOTHER USE THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE FOR SHARED MOBILITY IS VISITOR SERVING.
SO THESE WOULD BE VISITORS COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND USING SHARED MOBILITY FOR THINGS LIKE VISITING DESTINATIONS IN THE VILLAGE, GOING TO BE BEACHES AND ACCESSING OUR TOURIST ATTRACTIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ALSO VERY TYPICALLY USED AT SPECIAL EVENTS BY THE TOURIST AND VISITOR SERVING USES.
SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES ARE OUTLINED HERE.
THEY ARE TYPICALLY INEXPENSIVE FOR USERS TO USE, AND THAT IS AGAIN WHEN PEOPLE ARE USING THEM FOR 30 MINUTES OR LESS.
IF YOU GO BEYOND THOSE 30 MINUTES, IT DOES GET SOMEWHAT EXPENSIVE IN COMPARISON TO TRADITIONAL BIKE RENTALS.
CONVENIENCE IS A KEY BENEFIT REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC AND PARKING, AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN GOALS, WHICH DOES RESULT IN THE REDUCTION OF GREENHOUSE GASES.
SOME OF THE DRAWBACKS THAT OUR EXPERIENCE WITH SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES ARE SAFETY ISSUES.
SO THESE ARE A RESULT OF RIDER BEHAVIOR.
YOU KNOW, RIDERS HAVE BEEN SEEN TRAVELING ON SIDEWALKS, CREATING CONFLICTS WITH PEDESTRIANS ON SIDEWALKS OR CROSSING LOCATIONS, TRAVELING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC AND ALSO ONE OF THE KEY SAFETY ISSUES IS THE LACK OF IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO SAFETY EQUIPMENT SUCH AS HELMETS.
ALSO ANOTHER DRAWBACK IS DEVICE PARKING AND STORAGE.
THIS IS TYPICALLY SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT IF YOU DO HAVE A DOCK SYSTEM, YOU DO NEED TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO STORE THE VEHICLES AND LASTLY, RELATED TO THAT POINT IS OBSTRUCTION OF PEDESTRIAN AND BIKEWAYS.
SO THIS IS DEALING WITH STREET CLUTTER, WHERE YOU SEE SCOOTERS ON THE SIDEWALK OR IN AWKWARD LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE WE DO HAVE TO GO IN AND EITHER CLEAN THEM UP OR ACTUALLY IMPOUND THE DEVICES.
SO WHAT ARE THE CURRENT REGULATIONS APPLIED TO SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES? THE FIRST IS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH CURRENTLY PROHIBITS DEVICES FROM BEING ABANDONED, AND IT PROHIBITS FROM PLACING THEM IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR RENT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY FEATURES THERE WHERE THE TRADITIONAL SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES CANNOT OPERATE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD BECAUSE WE DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO BE RENTED FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
ALSO, THE CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE, WHICH REGULATES THE OPERATION OF THESE VEHICLES ON ROADWAYS THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THE CIVIL CODE OF CALIFORNIA, PROVIDES A COLLECTION OF STATUTES, CODES MADE UP OF STATUTES WHICH REALLY GOVERN THE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS AND RIGHTS OF PERSONS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF CALIFORNIA WHO USE SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES.
SO IN TERMS OF REGIONAL UPDATES AND THE KIND OF THE STATE OF SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, THE FIRST GROUP I WANT TO BRING UP IS THE NORTH COUNTY COASTAL CITIES BIKE SHARE.
SO THIS IS A ESSENTIALLY IT'S A WORKING GROUP OF THE CITIES OF OCEANSIDE, CARLSBAD, SOLANA BEACH AND DENMARK.
THIS PROGRAM WAS SET UP BACK IN MID-OCTOBER OF 2020, AND IT WAS THE FIRST LOOK AT SETTING UP A NORTH COUNTY BIKE SHARE SYSTEM.
WITH THAT PROGRAM, A VENDOR WAS SELECTED AND STATIONS WERE IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE CITIES OF ENCINITAS, SOLANA BEACH AND DEL MAR.
OCEANSIDE CARLSBAD DID NOT ELECT TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM, BUT AFTER ADDITIONAL NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE VENDOR [INAUDIBLE], THE PROGRAM WAS SCALED BACK AND NOW THE PILOT PROGRAM IS SET TO LAUNCH IN THE CITY OF ENCINITAS ONLY.
THAT SYSTEM IS SLATED TO BEGIN OPERATIONS LATER THIS MONTH IN ENCINITAS.
SO JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW HERE OF WHAT WE WOULD BE LIKELY TO SEE IN THE CITY OF ENCINITAS, THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE DOCKS THAT WOULD BE USED.
THEY ARE PROVIDED BY A COMPANY CALLED [INAUDIBLE].
THE PILOT PROGRAM WILL CONSIST OF 100 E-BIKES.
SO JUST LIKE THOSE SHOWN HERE WITH 200 DOCKS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THOSE ARE THE DOCKS WHICH ARE BEING PARKED THERE WITH 10 TO 15 STATIONS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO THE DOCKS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE PARKING SPACES, AND THESE WOULD BE JOINED TOGETHER IN STATIONS AND THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 10 TO 15 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THE PILOT PROGRAM WILL OPERATE FOR ONE YEAR AFTER THAT.
THE NORTH COUNTY GROUP WILL REVIEW THE PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM AND THEN DETERMINE NEXT STEPS WITH POTENTIAL EXPANSION BASED UPON THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM AND
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THE FEELINGS OF THE CITY OF ENCINITAS AND THE PARTICIPATING AGENCIES.THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO HAS THE MOST EXPANSIVE PROGRAM CURRENTLY, WITH SEVERAL BICYCLE AND SCOOTER SHARING COMPANIES AUTHORIZED TO PROVIDE NEARLY 10000 SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES IN THE CITY.
IN 2020, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO DID ADOPT NEW REGULATIONS TO BETTER MANAGE SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES, INCLUDING A NEW PERMIT PROCESS FOR [INAUDIBLE] DEVICES.
A FEW OTHER KEY ELEMENTS OF THAT PROGRAM ARE A GEOFENCING TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTED BY THE PROVIDERS.
THIS ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS THE CITY TO DEFINE CERTAIN AREAS WITHIN THE CITY AND GEOFENCING THEM AND THIS WOULD EITHER REQUIRE REDUCED SPEEDS.
SO ONCE A SCOOTER OR AN E-BIKE HITS THAT AREA, THE DEVICE WOULD NEED TO RUN WITHIN THAT REDUCED SPEED, OR THEY MAY BE PROHIBITED TO PARK WITHIN THOSE AREAS.
SO JUST WAYS TO BETTER MANAGE WHERE THESE DEVICES ARE USED.
THEY HAVE ALSO STARTED TO ALLOW DOCK-LESS SCOOTERS.
THEY'VE DEVELOPED A SIMILAR ONE YEAR PROGRAM PILOT PROGRAM STARTED IN 2019.
IT ALLOWS NO MORE THAN 5000 SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES IN THE CITY.
THE CITY OF EL CAJON IS ALSO EXPLORING THE OPTION TO PROVIDE SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES.
THEY RECENTLY PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT GIVES OFFICIALS THE ABILITY TO IMPOUND VEHICLES FOUND WITHIN THE CITY AND THEN THE CITY OF CORONADO ACTUALLY IMPOUND SCOOTERS.
THEY ARE SEEING A LOT OF OVERFLOW FROM THE CITIES OF SAN DIEGO INTO THEIR CITY, WHERE THEY IMPOUND VEHICLES ONCE SIGHTED IN THE CITY.
NOW, TO GUIDE THE FEEDBACK AND DISCUSSION FOR THIS ITEM, STAFF OFFERS THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
THE FIRST IS TO FOLLOW THE ENCINITAS MODEL THE E-BIKE PILOT PROGRAM, SO CITY STAFF WILL FOLLOW THE PERFORMANCE AND ONCE THAT PROGRAM HAS FINISHED AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, WE WILL LOOK AT EITHER CONSIDER JOINING THE PILOT PROGRAM AFTER THAT FIRST YEAR OF OPERATION.
THE SECOND IS TO MONITOR THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO MODEL, WHICH ALLOWS THE USE OF ADDITIONAL SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES, INCLUDING DOCK-LESS E-BIKES AND SCOOTER AND AGAIN, THE CITY STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO MONITOR THE STATUS OF THIS PROGRAM AND SEE HOW IT DEVELOPS WITH THE RECENT REGULATIONS AND THEN REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL ON THE DIRECTION OF THAT AND THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY JUST TO MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO AND TAKE NO ACTION.
THE CITY WOULD CONTINUE TO PROHIBIT SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES FROM BEING RENTED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WITH THAT OPTION.
FOR SAKE AND TIME, I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO OVER SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH.
REALLY WITH THE FIRST, IT WOULD JUST ALLOW STAFF FLEXIBILITY TO TRACK THE PROGRESS OF THIS NEW DOCKED E-BIKE SYSTEM IN THE CITY OF ENCINITAS.
IT'S VERY AFFORDABLE OPTION AND CONVENIENT OPTION, AND IT DOES ALLOW A LITTLE MORE ORDER IN AND IT AVOIDS THAT STREET CLUTTER ISSUE LIKE YOU MIGHT SEE IN SOME AREAS WITHOUT THE DOCKS.
SOME OF THE CONS OF THE CITY OF ENCINITAS IS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS, INTRODUCING NEW USERS TO SHARE MOBILITY DEVICES, MORE ACTIVITY, THE ACCESS TO SAFETY GEAR AND THE DOCKING STATIONS NEEDING TO BE PLACED IN READILY VISIBLE LOCATIONS TYPICALLY WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS OF THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE PROVIDES AN AFFORDABLE AND CONVENIENT ALTERNATIVE MOBILITY OPTION.
THE DOCK-LESS DEVICES CAN BE [INAUDIBLE] IN MOST, MOST PLACES, MAKING IT THE MOST CONVENIENT MAKING POINT TO POINT TRIPS EASIER AND IT MAY RESULT IN REDUCTIONS IN TRAFFIC CONGESTION PARKING DEMAND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND SOME OF THE CONS OF THE SAN DIEGO PROGRAM ARE, AGAIN, TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS, SAFETY GEAR SUCH AS HELMETS ARE NOT PROVIDED WITH THE SYSTEM, THE OBSTRUCTIONS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY SCOOTERS WITHIN THE SIDEWALK IN AWKWARD LOCATIONS AND IT'S NOT A GOOD OPTION FOR LONG OR LEISURELY RIDES AND THE THIRD OPTION PROS OF JUST MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO ARE TO AVOID OBSTRUCTIONS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.
WE'RE ABLE TO STILL LEARN FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES EXPERIENCE AND THEN REVISIT THOSE AGAIN, AND IT AVOIDS THE UNKNOWN RISK OF HAVING THE PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
SOME CONS OF THAT IS NO NEW OPTIONS OR ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION TO PERSONAL VEHICLE TRIPS AND NO CHANGE TO AUTO TRAFFIC OR PARKING DEMAND.
THIS ITEM WAS REVIEWED BY THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 4TH MEETING.
THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO EXPLORE SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES.
THEIR MAIN REASON WAS BECAUSE THEY DID SEE IT AS AN EFFECTIVE SOLUTION TO ADDRESS THAT FIRST AND LAST MILE CONNECTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY'S PUBLIC TRANSIT STOPS.
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SO WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON THE FUTURE OF SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES IN THE CITY AND THEN AGAIN, STAFF WILL BE BRINGING AN AMENDED ORDINANCE THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST READING IN NOVEMBER.THIS WILL BE TO BRING OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE IN LINE WITH ASSEMBLY BILL 1286.
WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? AT THIS TIME, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 12, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND NOW OR PRESS STAR NINE.
I DO SEE SPEAKERS, MAYOR, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS [INAUDIBLE] HERRERA.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OK? YES, GO AHEAD.
I'M ACTUALLY, [INAUDIBLE] IS MY MANAGER.
THIS IS AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ATTENDING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
I'M THE OWNER OF BEACH VIBE SALES AND RENTALS, LOCATED HERE AT 505 OAK AVENUE.
JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS.
BEACH VIBE IS A BUSINESS THAT WAS OPENED IN 2021, AND WE PUT OUR HEART AND SOUL INTO OPENING THIS BUSINESS DURING A PANDEMIC THAT THE CITY AND THE WORLD HADN'T SEEN BEFORE.
SO I'M HERE TODAY IN REGARDS TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT OPPOSING THIS ORDINANCE AND AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE CARLSBAD IS A CITY BUILT AROUND OUR BEAUTIFUL BEACHES AND COMMUNITIES.
WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON OUR LOCAL VIBE AND NOT BIKE AND SCOOTERS LAYING ALL OVER THE STREETS.
THESE KINDS OF BUSINESSES ARE OK FOR THE LARGER CITIES AS THEY HAVE BEEN NOTED.
BUT THEY DO CREATE SAFETY ISSUES AND THEN TO BRING DOWN LOCAL BUSINESSES TRYING TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES WITH OUR SERVICES, SUCH AS WHAT WE OFFER.
ON THE SURFACE, THE IDEA OF A SHARED MOBILITY PROGRAM FOR CARLSBAD MAY SOUND GOOD, BUT BENEATH THE SURFACE IT IS CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT FOR CARLSBAD.
THIS WILL SEVERELY IMPACT THE LOCAL BIKE SHOPS OFFERING AFFORDABLE BIKE RENTALS WHILE EMPLOYING THOSE IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
WE WORK TIRELESSLY OFFERING TRUE CARLSBAD EXPERIENCES TO THOSE WHO VISIT OUR INCREDIBLE CITY, AND WE HAVE WORKED DAY AND NIGHT TO MAKE ENDS MEET WITH COVID.
AND NOW THE CITY WANTS TO INTRODUCE A SYSTEM THAT WILL DESTROY OUR BUSINESS OVERNIGHT.
AS A LOCAL BIKE STORE, WE ENSURE THAT EVERY CUSTOMER IS PROVIDED A PERSONAL SAFETY BRIEFINGS, HELMETS, INTRODUCTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE BEST PLACES TO GO, AND NOT TO MENTION PROVIDING LOCAL GUIDANCE ON ALL THE AMAZING THINGS TO DO AROUND HERE.
SO THE REALITY IS WE KNOW THAT TO A CERTAINTY THAT NO REPRESENTATIVES FROM ANY SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES PROVIDE THIS KIND OF CARE TO THEIR CUSTOMERS OR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE.
YES, THEY MAY THROW A LOT OF MONEY AROUND, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.
FURTHERMORE, I KNOW MY TIME IS LIMITED.
THE SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES CREATES CERTAINTY THAT MINORS WILL BE RIDING THESE SCOOTERS THAT HAVE NO ASSURANCE HELMETS WILL NOT BE WORN.
PLUS, PAGE FIVE OF A THIRTY SEVEN PACKET AGENDA SIMPLY STATES EXISTING BUSINESSES SUCH AS BIKE RENTAL SHOPS IN THE VILLAGE, COULD BE AFFECTED.
HOWEVER, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, LOCAL CARLSBAD BIKE STORE OWNERS WERE NOT CONTACTED FOR FEEDBACK.
THE STAFF REPORT REFERENCES FEEDBACK FROM SANDAG BEING SOLICITED FROM BIKE SHOP OWNERS FOUR YEARS AGO.
SO THERE'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT ITEM TO CLARIFY ON THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH IS IT PLACES THE SAME RESTRICTIONS ON BIKE SHOP LOCAL SHOPS AS THE SHARED MOBILITY DEVICE, AND I WOULD ASK TO GET CLARIFICATION AND HAVE THAT DISTINCTION AND CLARIFY THAT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU IN THE FUTURE, IF I MAY BE OF ASSISTANCE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN ORNDORFF.
CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.
I'M THE OWNER OF PEDEGO CARLSBAD, LOCATED IN THE VILLAGE.
WE'VE BEEN OPEN GOING ON OUR NINTH YEAR AND WE PUT OUT THOUSANDS OF RENTALS EVERY YEAR AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT 35 PERCENT, ALMOST MAYBE 40 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME INTO OUR SHOP, THE RENT WHEN I GIVE THEM A SAFETY BRIEFING AND I TELL THEM THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE ON THE BIKE LANES AND IT CANNOT BE ON THE SIDEWALK, ABOUT 35 PERCENT OF THEM WILL NOT GET ON A BIKE.
SO IF WE HAD THESE THESE DOCK STATIONS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO READ THE RULES THAT ARE SET OUT.
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THEY'RE GOING TO BE RIDING ALL OVER THE SIDEWALKS EVEN AFTER I GET PEOPLE SAFETY BRIEFINGS THEY'RE ON THE SIDEWALKS.SPECIFICALLY WITH SCOOTERS, 75 PERCENT OF THE INJURIES ARE FACE AND HEAD INJURIES WITH THOSE.
BECAUSE THEY HIT SO FAST AND THEY GO OVER REALLY QUICK.
THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THESE DOCK STATIONS IS THE CITY GOING TO LET THESE [INAUDIBLE] PEOPLE USE CITY LAND FOR FREE WHILE WE'RE PAYING LEASES IN THE CITY TO SUPPORT LOCAL LANDLORDS AND SUCH.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP, AND I THINK PD RIGHT NOW WILL NOT ALLOW SCOOTERS OR E-BIKES BECAUSE OF ALL THE LAWSUITS AND INJURIES THEY'VE HAD DOWN THERE AS WELL.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE JUST OUR SEAWALL INUNDATED WITH THESE DEVICES.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE'S WHERE I GAVE PEOPLE BIKES AND TOLD THEM TO STAY ON THE ASPHALT AND THEY RODE THEM ON THE BEACH.
SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT AND I ECHO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM BEACH VIBE HAS SAID AS WELL.
IT'S GOING TO HURT LOCAL BUSINESS.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS HERE.
SO I KNOW THIS CAME BEFORE US, I BELIEVE IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND DEFINITELY WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD REGARDING THIS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST GETTING SOME MORE CLARITY ON WHERE THINGS WERE GOING AND IT SEEMS LIKE OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE REGION THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD IN A PARTICULAR DIRECTION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION WITH REGARDS TO THE UTILIZATION OF THESE DEVICES.
WHAT PRECLUDES A CHILD FROM BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS? YEAH, SO SO IN TERMS OF RENTING THE DEVICES, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY YOU NEED A CREDIT CARD AND TAKE A PICTURE OF YOUR LICENSE TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE OF AGE.
IT DOES TAKE SOME ENFORCEMENT TO DO THAT.
I KNOW WE HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, MYSELF, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE NOT OF AGE USING IT, SO THAT WOULD TAKE SOME ENFORCEMENT ON THE CITY SIDE AS WELL.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, THE BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD BE AROUND KIDS USING THIS AND ESPECIALLY, I THINK IT'S EASY ENOUGH FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO OVERRIDE THE SYSTEM OR JUST IF THERE ISN'T AN ENFORCEMENT TECHNIQUE IN PLACE AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT MORE STAFFING.
THAT'S THE THING THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME, GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH E-BIKES, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CONCERNS AROUND THAT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE RIDING IT SAFELY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK AROUND THAT AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IF, IF THIS WERE SOMETHING THAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN, HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS WERE ESPECIALLY KIDS WERE SAFE WHEN THEY'RE UTILIZING THESE AND ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ONLY 18 AND OVER.
SO THE OTHER PIECE THAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WAS WITH REGARDS TO THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND I NOTICED THAT THERE IS AN OPTION WHERE WE CAN WATCH AND SEE WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING AND HOW IT GOES AND THEN THINK ABOUT IT ONCE WE SEE HOW IT GOES IN THOSE DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK IN TERMS OF I KNOW THAT THERE'S THE OPTION TO JOIN IN WITH SOME OF THE ENTITIES, BUT WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO IF WE, LET'S JUST SAY FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, ONCE WE SEE IF SOMETHING'S WORKING, SOMETHING ISN'T WORKING, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND HAVE AUTONOMY? YEAH, I THINK IF WE WERE TO TAKE ON, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF ENCINITAS OPTION, YOU KNOW, WE COULD RUN IT VERY SIMILAR AS A PILOT PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND AGAIN, SEE HOW IT RUNS.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD ALLOW US SOME FLEXIBILITY.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO WORK WITH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK DEPENDING UPON YOUR DIRECTION, WE COULD PROVIDE YOU WITH A LITTLE BETTER ANSWER OF WHAT TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY WE WOULD HAVE AS A CITY.
OK AND THEN I KNOW WE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDING
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THESE SERVICES ALREADY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT IMPACTS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EITHER WHEN WE'RE CHATTING WITH THEM OR JUST IN GENERAL, WHAT IMPACTS WE WERE ABLE TO GLEAN THEY WOULD HAVE ON THEIR BUSINESS IF WE WERE TO POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
YEAH, THERE'S JUST NOT REAL GOOD DATA OUT THERE ON, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACTS OF SHARED MOBILITY AND HOW THAT IMPACTS BUSINESSES OF THE TRADITIONAL BIKE RENTAL.
WE DID A PRETTY THOROUGH LOOK AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST HASN'T BEEN STUDIED ENOUGH TO PROVIDE ANY GOOD FINANCIAL DATA ON THAT IMPACT YET.
YEAH, I MEAN, I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS, BUT THOSE ARE MY BIGGEST QUESTIONS JUST AROUND THE SAFETY AND OF KIDS ESPECIALLY AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT FROM A MORE HOLISTIC STANDPOINT.
YEAH, THANK YOU, I'M STILL ON QUESTIONS.
I WANTED TO ASK AND THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT REPORT TO STAFF.
BUT I WANTED TO ASK IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE FIRST MILE, LAST MILE FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT IT AND IT'S A BIT JARGON-Y.
IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S AN ADVANTAGE OR WHY THAT'S ON THE PROS COLUMN, THAT USING THESE SHARED MICRO-MOBILITY DEVICES LIKE BIKES WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR FIRST MILE, LAST MILE CONNECTIONS.
SO THE FIRST MILE, LAST MILE, YOU KNOW, THE MILE IS KIND OF A GENERAL TERM.
REALLY WHAT THESE DEVICES DO ARE IT ALLOWS YOU TO CONVERT EITHER DRIVING TO THE TRANSIT STOP OR WALKING TO THE TRANSIT STOP.
IT ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE ONE OF THESE DEVICES THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE FURTHER REACH.
IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO USE, YOU KNOW, THAN WALKING A LONG DISTANCE TO GET TO YOUR DESTINATION OR GOING TO YOUR WORKPLACE.
THE FIRST MILE OF THAT PORTION WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY GOING FROM YOUR HOUSE TO THE TRANSIT STATION.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT POINSETTIA STATION, THAT WOULD BE GOING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING THE STATION INTO STATION SO THEY COULD USE THE COASTER AND THEN THAT LAST MILE IS GETTING FROM THE ACTUAL TRANSIT STATION TO YOUR PLACE OF WORK.
SO, IF SOMEONE'S COMING IN TO POINSETTIA, THEY COULD TAKE THEIR E-BIKE TO IF THEY WORK ON AVENIDA ENCINAS VERSUS WHERE THEY MAY NOT EVEN MAKE THAT TRIP TODAY BECAUSE THE WALK IS SO LONG IN, THAT LAST MILE TAKES SO LONG THAT IT JUST IS NOT COMPETITIVE IN TERMS OF TAKING YOUR CAR TO WORK.
SO IT'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE THAT LAST CONNECTION EASIER, MORE ACCESSIBLE AND FASTER.
OK AND SO THE IDEA IS TO GET YOU OUT OF DRIVING SO MUCH SO THAT YOU COULD FIND OTHER ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION LIKE WAY TO TAKE THE TRAIN AND THEN SOME OTHER WAY TO CONNECT TO THE TRAIN STATION AND TO YOUR STATION AND I KNOW THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT LIKE OUR BUS ROUTES AND WE LOOK AT SOME OF OUR OTHER TRANSIT OPTIONS, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS GO INLAND, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS GO TO THE PLACES WE NEED TO GO, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WE HAD THAT COMMUTER SHUTTLE FROM THE TRANSIT STATION POINSETTIA.
I REMEMBER SEEING IT ACTIVE JUST BEFORE THE PANDEMIC TO THE BUSINESS PARKS.
RIGHT, THAT'S THE COMMUTER SHUTTLE.
SO AND IT WAS PART OF THAT REASON IS THAT FIRST MILE, LAST MILE CONNECTION TO GET PEOPLE TO THEIR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT AND THEN BACK TO THE TRANSIT STATION.
SO THIS COULD BE I'M JUST TRYING TO ENVISION A SCENARIO WHERE SOMEONE COMES DOWN, MAYBE EVEN TO VISIT MAY NOT EVEN BE A COMMUTE, COMES DOWN TO CARLSBAD TO VISIT FRIENDS OR FAMILY AND DOESN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
MAYBE THEY COULD TAKE AN UBER, BUT MAYBE THEY COULD ALSO TAKE ONE OF THESE SHARED MICRO-MOBILITY DEVICES, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE IDEA, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM MY CLIMATE CHANGE TRAINING WAS JUST TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS AND TRY TO GET THEM TO WALK AND BIKE AND USE OTHER NON GREENHOUSE GAS EMITTING DEVICES TO GET AROUND.
SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF WHERE THAT'S HEADED, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE CLUTTER ON THE SIDEWALKS AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THERE WERE IN OTHER PLACES THAT COME WITH BEING DOCK-LESS, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF TOSSING YOUR BIKE OR SCOOTER OR WHATEVER ON THE SIDEWALK WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH, IT SEEMS TO BE VERY MESSY AND HAPHAZARD AND TROUBLESOME AND BLOCK ACCESS ON THE SIDEWALK FOR PEOPLE.
SO I DEFINITELY LIKE THE IDEA OF DOCK STATIONS IF WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE JUST EVEN LOOKING AT IT.
I THINK THAT HAVING KIND OF A TIDY SYSTEM WHERE THINGS ARE PUT AWAY PROPERLY IS A GREAT WAY TO GO.
I JUST REMEMBER HEARING ABOUT THE ENCINITAS ONE A LONG TIME AGO, AND I, OF COURSE, HEARD YOUR PRESENTATION AND READ THROUGH THE REPORT.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS, HAS IT STARTED YET? BECAUSE I DID SEE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO START IN SEPTEMBER.
DID THE ENCINITAS ONE WITH [INAUDIBLE] IT STARTED ALREADY.
HOW'S IT GOING? HAS NOT STARTED YET.
ESSENTIALLY, THEY'RE THEY'RE GETTING THEY'VE GOT THE STATIONS IN PLACE.
I THINK THEY'RE WORKING OUT JUST THE LAST FEW DETAILS ON THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT SHOULD BE STARTING.
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I WOULD SAY, WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS HERE, WE'LL SEE THE SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING.OK, SO IF ENCINITAS HAD ONE AND WE WERE TO ADOPT A PILOT AT SOME POINT, THERE MIGHT EVEN BE OVERLAP OR LIKE THE SAME BIKE USERS COULD BECAUSE THE DISTRICT I REPRESENT IS THE BORDER OF ENCINITAS.
SO THEY COULD COME UP TO PONTO AND MAYBE THEIR LEUCADIA AND THEY COULD COME UP AND HANG OUT AND GO TO SOME OF OUR RESTAURANTS AND, YOU KNOW, SPEND SOME MONEY AND THEN HEAD BACK DOWN.
OK, WELL, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE MICRO-MOBILITY DEVICES AND GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS.
BUT I DO SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES, SO I'M DEFINITELY JUST TRANSITIONING TO MY COMMENTS HERE.
I'M DEFINITELY LOOKING AT THAT OPTION WHERE WE WOULD WAIT AND SEE HOW IT GOES IN ENCINITAS AND NOT CLOSE THE DOOR ON THAT, BUT KIND OF TAKE A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH WITH AN OPEN MIND TO SEE HOW THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO HERE, BUT WITH A REALLY CLOSE EYE AT THE SAFETY ASPECT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE ALREADY DO HAVE ISSUES WITH THEM, JUST PEOPLE WITH THEIR OWN E-BIKES, NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE ROAD AND I SEE THOSE COMPLAINTS A LOT AND THAT I KNOW WE'RE DOING A LOT OF GREAT EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS WITH OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR POLICE AND THROUGH THE CITY.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL GET BETTER.
IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT WHAT WE COULD DO, AND I'M IN FAVOR OF TAKING THE WAIT AND SEE APPROACH TO SEE HOW IT WORKS IN ENCINITAS AND MAYBE JOINING WITH THEM.
IT'S A GREAT TOPIC IN TERMS OF WE CAN SEE WITH OUR OWN EYES WHAT'S GOING ON OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY, WITH E-BIKES AND WITH SCOOTERS AND THE UTILIZATION INCREASING IN BOTH AND I'M JUST ESPECIALLY ALONG OUR CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AREA.
THERE ARE DAYS WHERE I WOULD GATHER THAT THE BIKE RATE, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON BIKES AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WALKING OR ARE SIMILAR TO THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING, ESPECIALLY ON WEEKENDS IN THAT AREA.
I THINK THAT OUR GOAL, EVERYONE'S GOAL IS TO CREATE A SYSTEM WHERE WE HAVE FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT OPTIONS, FROM THE TRAIN TO THE BUS TO THE CAR TO SOME SORT OF A SCOOTER TO AN E-BIKE TO A WALK AND LET THE END USER CHOOSE THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THEM FOR THE JOB, DEPENDING ON THEIR LIFE, CIRCUMSTANCE AND WHAT THEY NEED.
WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WITH A COUPLE OF CLIENTS PAST CLIENTS, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO, PROBABLY THREE DAYS A WEEK FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND THE FIRST SYSTEM THAT ROLLED OUT IN SAN DIEGO WAS A DOCK SYSTEM THAT WAS SPONSORED BY CITIBANK AND I'M MAKING SURE CELIA ISN'T TELLING ME I'M OUT OF LINE HERE WITH HER ARM MOVEMENTS.
I JUST SAW THIS ARM GO LIKE THIS.
I WENT, WHOA, MAYBE I SHOULD STOP.
I APOLOGIZE, JUST TRYING TO FIX MY CORDS.
IT CREATED A LOT OF CONFLICT IN THE BEACH COMMUNITIES IN TERMS OF THE LOCATION OF THE STATIONS,, AND PREDICTABLY, SOME RETAILERS WERE ANGRY ABOUT LOSING PARKING, AND SOME BIKE STORES WERE ANGRY ABOUT HAVING A COMPETITOR ON THE PUBLIC STREET WHO'S NOT PAYING RENT ARE NOT UNDER BRICK AND MORTAR, AND DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN TERMS OF PROVIDING AT HOME OR TO A USER OR WHATEVER.
THAT THEN KIND OF MORPHED TO A WHAT I CALL A FERAL SYSTEM WHERE THEY'RE JUST OUT IN THE CITY.
THEY'RE NOT DOCKED, THEY'RE UNDOCKED, AND THAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING AN UNMITIGATED DISASTER IN TERMS OF BOTH BIKES AND SCOOTERS.
MANY COMMUNITY GROUPS IN VARIOUS CITIES SAY NO OUT OF HERE.
DON'T WANT THEM, DON'T WANT ALL THIS LITTER AND DEBRIS, FOR SURE.
BUT I THINK THAT MY GENERAL COMMENTS ARE I ALWAYS LOOK AT CITIES AND I PUT THEM IN CAMPS TALL AND SMALL AND WHERE WE CAN GET IN TROUBLE IS WHEN WE UTILIZE A STRATEGY THAT WORKS IN TALL CITIES AND WE PUT IT IN A SMALL CITY, OR WE UTILIZE A STRATEGY THAT WORKS IN A SMALL CITY AND WE CAN PUT IT IN A TALL CITY.
SO AS AN ADVOCATE FOR MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION AND MANY CHOICES TO THE END USER INSTEAD OF JUST ONE WHICH IS THE CAR, WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IN CARLSBAD IS I SEE OUR CITIZENS AND OUR USERS ADOPTING E-BIKES, ESPECIALLY AND SOMEWHAT SECONDARILY, SCOOTERS AND THAT'S OUR ISSUE AND THAT'S THE ISSUE.
I THINK THAT WE PRIMARILY NEED TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND AND SO INSTEAD OF PROVIDING A DOCKING STATION FOR ONE VENDOR, USING OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO PROVIDE 10 OR 20 STATIONS, I'M MORE INCLINED TO PROVIDE PARKING AREAS OR PUBLIC AREAS WHERE WE HAVE CORRALS, WHERE ANYBODY WHO HAS AN E-BIKE OR A SCOOTER CAN USE THAT CORRAL AND PARK
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THEIR BIKE AND HAVE SOME SECURITY AND SOME SAFETY IN TERMS OF PARKING, BECAUSE YOU CAN REPLACE TWO OR THREE PARKING SPACES WITH 20 OR 30 E-BIKES VERY EASILY WHEN THE DEMAND IS THERE.AND SO THAT'S A SYSTEM WHERE I THINK THAT IT REALLY BENEFITS OUR USER BASE AND OUR CITIZENS AND THOSE OF US WHO LIKE TO RIDE E-BIKES AND GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
BUT PARKING CAN BE DIFFICULT AND THE ONE AREA THAT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUSH ON IS OUR WORKPLACE.
WE'VE GOT [INAUDIBLE], WHICH IS JUST INCREDIBLE AND WE'VE GOT TWO COASTER STATIONS AND WE'VE GOT JOBS LITERALLY TWO MILES AWAY TO FOUR MILES AWAY AND IT'S HARD TO GET TO AND I THINK THE E-BIKE CAN REALLY, REALLY MAKE A DENT IN THAT AREA.
BUT AGAIN, WHAT KIND OF A DENT CAN IT MAKE? AND I THINK A SYSTEM WHERE WE ARE ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO USE THEIR E-BIKES AND PROVIDING PARKING FOR THEM AND A KIND OF PARKING FACILITY FOR BIKES IS PREFERABLE TO HAVING A DOCK STATION WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO RETURN IT TO A DOCK STATION THAT MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, IN THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PART, MAYBE THEY WOULD BE BEFORE, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO WALK A HALF A MILE, QUARTER MILE, HUNDRED YARDS, TWO MILES TO YOUR WORKSTATION.
SO I PREFER THIS PRIVATE KIND OF PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WANT TO HAVE THE DEMAND, WANT TO PUT A BIKE CORRAL IN OR EVEN PUBLIC USE AND HIGH TOURISM AREA.
I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
I THINK THAT'S NINETY FIVE PERCENT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY AND WILL GO ON IN THE FUTURE WHERE I PUT US IN A SMALL CITY CATEGORY, NOT THE BIG TALL CITY LIKE SAN FRANCISCO OR SAN DIEGO, SO I WOULD PREFER, I THINK, OPTION NUMBER THREE AND OPTION NUMBER ONE ARE SIMILAR.
WE CAN MONITOR AND SEE THE SUCCESS.
WE CAN SEE HOW THEIR BUSINESSES RESPOND TO IT, HOW THE USERS RESPOND TO IT.
IT DOESN'T PREVENT US FROM DOING THAT, BUT I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO DIRECT OUR STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE WHO OWN E-BIKES AND THOSE WHO OWN SCOOTERS AND HOW WE CAN PROVIDE PARKING FOR THEM AT THE CLUSTER STATION, HOW WE CAN PROVIDE PARKING FOR THEM AT WORKPLACES, HOW WE CAN PROVIDE PARKING FOR THEM IN AREAS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO AND THEY'RE CONGREGATING TO, BEACHES, PARKS, WHATEVER AND THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND OUR STAFF TIME IS DOING THAT.
SURE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, AND LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS AS WELL.
FOR ME, AS I MENTIONED, I HAVE CONCERNS STILL AROUND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH REGARDS TO THIS, DEFINITELY IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO INCORPORATE MORE MOBILITY OPTIONS.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MULTIMODAL LEVELS OF SERVICE, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN AS WELL, WHICH I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND REALLY THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET FOLKS OUT OF THEIR CARS WITH THAT, OF COURSE.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO SO IN A MANNER THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE SAFE FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED AND I THINK FOR ME, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS ENSURING THAT WE HAVE SAFETY AND THEN ALSO MAKING SURE THE IMPACTS TO THE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE ALSO CONSIDERED PRIOR TO MOVING FORWARD.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG THINGS FOR ME AND FOR ME I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTING TO MONITOR AND WATCH WHAT THE OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING, SEEING THE SUCCESS OF THOSE PARTICULAR PROGRAMS AND THEN FIGURING OUT SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR US.
IF IT SEEMS LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS DOING LOOKS INTERESTING AND WE WANT TO ADD ON, SURE, GREAT.
BUT I THINK I REALLY WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AUTONOMY AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO WITHIN OUR OWN CITY.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE IMPACTS WITHIN OUR AGENCY.
SO WITH THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT MY OTHER COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY.
THIS IS KIND OF EASY FOR ME, I'VE BEEN TO GASLAMP, I'VE BEEN TO DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO AND I SHAKE MY HEAD AND I SAY, WHAT ARE THEY THINKING ALLOWING THIS STUFF ON THESE SIDEWALKS AND THESE STREETS? AND THEN I COME BACK TO CARLSBAD AND I LISTEN TO COMPLAINTS AFTER COMPLAINTS, WHETHER I'M AT THE GYM OR WHETHER IT BE AN EMAIL OR A TELEPHONE CALL.
I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING, WHY AREN'T THE POLICE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT ALL THESE E-BIKES? THEY'RE DANGEROUS, THEY'RE NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN ITS ENCINITAS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS SUCH AN EASY KNOW FOR ME.
I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT GET BEHIND IT RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD JUST ECHO MR. BLACKBURN'S COMMENTS; I THOUGHT THEY'RE RIGHT ON POINT.
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ACOSTA.I'M LOOKING AT OUR OPTIONS AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD AND THE WAY THAT I READ THEM.
THE FIRST ONE WAS THE WAIT AND SEE APPROACH, EVEN THOUGH IT LEANS HEAVILY ON CITY OF ENCINITAS.
THE SECOND ONE WAS CITY OF SAN DIEGO MODEL, TAKE A LOOK AT THEIRS AND TRY TO JOIN THEIRS.
AND THE THIRD WAS MOBILITY DEVICES ARE BAD.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT JUST FROM OUR CONVERSATION, FROM WHAT I HEARD THAT PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T--NOT EVERYBODY WHO WANTED TO JUST WAIT JUST THINKS THAT THEY'RE BAD --BUT THAT'S HOW I READ IT.
NUMBER THREE, SUCH DEVICES SUCH AS DOCK-LESS SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES SHARE CAN BE COSTLY TO USE.
IF THEY'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE FEE STRUCTURE, TAKE NO ACTION.
SO, I THINK MAYBE IT'S A BIT OF AN EXPANSION OF OPTION ONE THAT I'M FAVORING, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CITY OF ENCINITAS AND CONSIDER WHETHER TO MODEL A PROGRAM AFTER THEM OR MAYBE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SHARED MOBILITY PROGRAM AFTER A YEAR AND COME BACK IN A YEAR? SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT OPTION ONE IS HERE, BUT IT'S THE WAIT AND SEE...
FLAVOR, YOU KNOW WHICH WOULD ALLOW CITY ALL THE SAME PROS ALLOWS CITY STAFF TO TRACK HOW IT GOES AND THE PROGRESS AND LOOK FOR SOME OTHER WAY TO NOT CLOSE THE DOOR ON THE IDEA.
I THINK MY COMMENTS TO THAT AND I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD IT AND IT STARTED WITH DR. BHAT-PATEL AND THEN MR. BLACKBURN, IS SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY, JOB NUMBER ONE IS SAFETY, AND WE HAVEN'T GOT OUR ARMS AROUND SAFETY JUST IN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY AND SO I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS IS WE NEED TO SOMEHOW BE ABLE TO GET CONTROL OF THAT BEFORE WE EXPAND UPON IT.
AND THEN I THINK THE NEXT STEP WAS KIND OF WHERE MR. NORBY WAS GOING IS IF WE WANT TO EXPAND THE USE OF IT TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS FOCUSED AROUND, IS NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT AND WORK WITH THEM.
SO THAT'S HOW I SEE IT MOVING FORWARD TO ALLOW PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY VISITORS, TO COME IN AND JUST JUMP ON AN E-BIKE OR A SCOOTER AND START RUNNING UP TO THE VILLAGE.
WE CAN'T EVEN GET OUR OWN CHILDREN TRAINED YET TO DO THINGS PROPERLY, LET ALONE OPEN THIS UP TO SOMEBODY WHO'S JUST GOING TO GO OUT AND START WANDERING THROUGH OUR STREETS AND TO ME, I MEAN, I'M IN THE VILLAGE A LOT AND THERE ISN'T A TIME I GO TO THE VILLAGE THAT I THINK, OH MY GOD, YOU KNOW, LOOK, WHAT JUST HAPPENED ALMOST JUST HAPPENED.
SO NOT TO MENTION WHERE YOU WOULD PLACE THESE ON THE SIDEWALKS OR IN AND AROUND THE VILLAGE AREA.
NOW MAYBE THERE'S SPACE OUT AND BRESSI RANCH OR IN LA COSTA, WHERE YOU HAVE BIGGER SIDEWALKS AND PLACES WHERE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PARK THOSE.
BUT IN THE VILLAGE, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE UP PARKING SPACES IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
SO YEAH, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF YOU RECALL, I ALSO MENTIONED THE SAME THING.
SO IT WASN'T LIKE THE OTHER PEOPLE MENTIONED THAT AND [INAUDIBLE] SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, SAFETY IS ALSO MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO THANKFUL TO CITY STAFF FOR DOING ALL OF THE E-BIKE EDUCATION AS I MENTIONED THAT WE DID THROUGH OUR SCHOOLS AND WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THROUGH THE CITY STAFF AS WELL.
SO ABSOLUTELY, SAFETY IS THE FIRST THING.
SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IS ALSO A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD CLOSE THE DOOR.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A COMPROMISE TO THE WAIT AND SEE APPROACH THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTING.
NOT SAYING "NO, I WOULD NEVER SUPPORT THIS." BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
LET'S WATCH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING AND CONTINUE TO BE OPEN MINDED ABOUT IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CAN I OFFER A SUGGESTION THAT A MODIFICATION ON OPTION ONE IS CITY STAFF CAN COME BACK IN A YEAR ONCE ENCINITAS HAS STOOD UP THEIR PROGRAM AND WE CAN REPORT BACK THE FINDINGS OF ENCINITAS AT A FUTURE DATE, BASICALLY A YEAR FROM NOW.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT, I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT THAT.
THANK YOU, KIND OF WHERE CITY MANAGER CHADWICK WAS GOING, IT'S KIND OF IN MY MIND.
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WE'RE ALWAYS EVALUATING PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE.WE'RE EVALUATING PROGRAMS OUT THERE AND WE CAN BRING A REPORT BACK IN A YEAR AND SEE HOW THEIR PROGRAM IS GOING AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO GET TO IS I WANT TO GET ON THIS ISSUE.
FOLKS LIKE ME AND ALL GENERATIONS OF PROSPECT CITIZENS ARE NOT GOING TO GET OFF THEIR E-BIKE AND STOP RIDING THEM.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET OFF THEIR SCOOTER.
IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET MORE AND MORE AND WITH MORE CHOICES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE YEARS TO COME, IT WILL BE EVEN A HIGHER PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM ARE NOT IN A CAR, BUT THAT IS THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN CARLSBAD, AND THAT IS THE ISSUE I WANT OUR STAFF TO SPEND TIME ON IN TERMS OF HOW TO IMPROVE SAFETY, HOW TO IMPROVE PARKING, HOW TO IMPROVE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL WORKPLACES THAT WANT TO HAVE BIKE PARKING AND THE [INAUDIBLE] WANT TO HAVE BIKE PARKING.
SO THE RIDER OF THE BIKE TO BE SECURE IF IT'S THERE ALL DAY IN A WORKPLACE COMING HERE OR THERE.
BUT THERE ARE ISSUES THAT I WANT OUR STAFF WORKING ON THAT ARE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DEALING WITH THE SAME THING HOW TO GET FROM POINT A TO B ON AN ELECTRIC BIKE OR A MULTIMODAL DEVICE; YOU'RE DEALING WITH OUR SMALL CITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING IT, SMALL BEING NOT TALL, YOU KNOW, 40 STOREY HIGH RISES BECAUSE I WANT TO GET ON IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HIT US.
IT'S HIT US HARD IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, BUT IT'S GOING TO KEEP INCREASING AND SO THAT'S THE AREA THAT I AGREE WITH THE PHRASING THAT CITY MANAGER CHADWICK USES.
BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO DIRECT STAFF TO START WORKING WITH OUR EXISTING POPULATION, OUR EXISTING STORES AND INCREASING THE SAFETY AND PARKING AND USABILITY OF THESE DEVICES, E-BIKES AND SCOOTERS.
MAYOR, IF I MAY AND CITY COUNCIL, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THIS YEAR IN OUR BUDGET, WE HAVE MONEY TO STUDY AND IMPLEMENT OUR SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.
SO IN THAT EFFORT, WE HAVE HEARD YOUR COMMENTS AND WE ARE PLANNING TO LOOK AT PARKING OPPORTUNITIES AND FURTHERING OUR BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN MORE EFFICIENTLY AND SAFELY MOVE BIKE TRAFFIC FROM INLAND AREAS TO THE COASTAL AREAS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S A HIGH DEMAND USE AND OF COURSE, ALONG ON OUR COASTLINES.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER'S SUGGESTION IS SPOT ON AND AS MR. SCHMIDT MENTIONED, WE ARE PLANNING TO BRING BACK OR BRING THE ORDINANCE UPDATE TO THE COUNCIL IN THE NEXT MEETING.
SO YEAH, WE CAPTURED ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY.
WE HEAR YOUR COMMENTS AND WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THOSE ISSUES.
MR. BLACKBURN, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A SHOT AT A MOTION? I'M SORRY, DOCTOR.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE COMPROMISE THAT MR. CHADWICK PRESENTED WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PALATABLE TO ME AS WELL, JUST TO BE ABLE TO HEAR AN UPDATE AND THEN ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY FOR BRINGING UP SOME OF THE POINTS REGARDING MAKING SURE THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT OUR SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, INCORPORATING MORE IN TERMS OF JUST OPTIONS FOR SAFETY AROUND THE DIFFERENT DEVICES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
MR. BLACKBURN, YOU WANT TO TAKE A SHOT AT A MOTION? SURE, BUT I'M GOING TO START WITH WHEN IT COMES TO SHARED MOBILITY, RIGHT NOW, I'M ZERO INTERESTED BASED ON WHAT I SAID.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, I AM ALWAYS INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES AND WHAT PROGRESS THESE KINDS OF THINGS MAKE AND I ALWAYS KEEP AN OPEN MIND.
IT'S JUST IT'S NOT OPEN AT THIS MOMENT, SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE COME BACK IN ABOUT A YEAR AND LOOK AND SEE HOW ENCINITAS TRIAL HAS GONE AND ANY OTHER IDEAS, ESPECIALLY CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY'S SUGGESTIONS.
SO THAT INCORPORATES WHAT MR. CHADWICK AND MR. FRANK HAVE SAID JUST PREVIOUSLY.
MOVING ON TO OUR CLOSING REMARKS.
[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA, HOW ABOUT LEADING IT OFF? OKAY, I'LL BE VERY QUICK.I'M WEARING AN ORANGE-Y COLOR TODAY.
THIS MONTH, WE'VE GOT SOME OCTOBER ACTIVITIES.
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I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE DIA DE LOS MUERTOS OVER AT LEO CARRILLO RANCH, AND YOU CAN GO CHECK OUT THE [INAUDIBLE] THERE.WE HAD THE PUMPKIN PLUNGE EVENT THE OTHER DAY [INAUDIBLE] PASEO DEL NORTE AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF HOLIDAY EVENTS ALREADY STARTING.
I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT IN TERMS OF MEETINGS, WE'VE GOT THE CITY SCHOOLS COMMITTEE MEETING NEXT WEEK SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL AND I, WHO ARE AT THE CITY SCHOOL COMMITTEE, WILL BE MEETING TOGETHER WITH THE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT OVERLAP WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A MEETING WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT WAYS WE CAN COLLABORATE AND SHARE IDEAS.
SO THAT WILL BE HAPPENING NEXT WEEK AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS! HOLIDAY SEASON IS UPON US.
CAN I MAKE A NOTATION THERE? YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO MEET WITH A CITY SCHOOLS.
JUST AFTER THIS LAST AGENDA ITEM, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT AND HOW WE COULD COLLABORATIVELY WORK TOGETHER ON SAFETY BECAUSE I WILL SAY THIS THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I SEE RIDING THE NEW E-BIKES, I WOULD SAY, ARE WELL UNDER TWENTY.
AND EVEN WHEN THERE'S TWO OR THREE OF THEM ON IT AT ONCE, SO THANK YOU, WE WILL DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT IT.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING SOME WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE FLYERS OF OUR COLLABORATION WITH THE SCHOOLS, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S A HUGE ISSUE AND THE SCHOOLS AND THE CITY CAN COLLABORATE MORE.
SO BRIEFLY, MR. CHADWICK, I THINK YOU SHOULD THEN IF YOU COULD LET MR. HABER KNOW TO ADD THAT TO OUR AGENDA.
I KNOW IT'S AN AGENDA MEETING SO WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT IT IF ITS AGENDA IS.
OTHERWISE WE COULD ADD IT TO OUR COMMENTS AND DEFINITELY, I'M EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO MEET WITH THE CITY SCHOOLS COMMITTEE AGAIN.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD REALLY GREAT CONVERSATIONS AROUND A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES, AND I THINK ESPECIALLY AS FOLKS ARE RETURNING BACK TO THE CLASSROOMS, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE BOTH OF US, ESPECIALLY TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THE TEAM ON THE OTHER SIDE AND JUST HEAR FROM THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO, OF COURSE, OUR RESIDENTS AND I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT TO SHOW, YES, SCHOOL BOARD AND
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CITY COUNCIL, SURE, THEY WORK SEPARATELY.BUT I THINK, OF COURSE, THE BIGGER PICTURE IS THAT WE ARE SERVING THE SAME COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY SHOW THAT WE ARE ABLE TO WORK EFFECTIVELY TOGETHER.
SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.
[CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]
I DO WANT TO MENTION BEFORE I KEEP GOING ON WITH MY COMMENTS THAT IT IS OUR CITY MANAGER'S BIRTHDAY TOMORROW.SO I'M JUST DOING A LITTLE SHOUT OUT THAT IT'S MR. CHADWICK BIRTHDAY.
SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MR. CHADWICK AND I HOPE THAT YOU GET TO CELEBRATE IN A GREAT WAY AND I DO KNOW THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, I AM MEETING WITH SOME OF OUR DIFFERENT LEGISLATORS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS TO TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS AND SO AS I LEARN ABOUT SOME OF THEIR EFFORTS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, I'LL BE SURE TO REPORT BACK ON THAT.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CAL CITIES MEETINGS NEXT WEEK.
I HAVE ONE WITH REGARDS TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMUNICATIONS PUBLIC WORKS ONE REGARDING MY RECENT APPOINTMENT AND THEN ALSO A LEAGUE LEADERS BRIEFING WHERE WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS AND WHAT THE AGENDA IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE NEW YEAR.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL OF THAT NEXT WEEK, IT'S GOING TO BE A PACKED WEEK, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I NOTICED THIS, THAT WE'RE DOING A LANTERN CELEBRATION, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING AT ONE OF OUR PARKS, I THINK AT THE ALGA NORTE.
AND IT'S THE SAME WEEKEND AS A HOLIDAY THAT WE CELEBRATE, DIWALI AND DIWALI IS ACTUALLY THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS.
SO I WAS REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT AND EXCITED THAT WE'LL BE CELEBRATING IT IN SOME FORM OR FASHION HERE IN CARLSBAD.
I THINK I'LL JUST, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK REMARKS.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION ON AN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL TASTE OF CARLSBAD EVENT THAT WAS HELD RECENTLY AND THEN I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON FOUNDATION THAT LAUNCHED AND RIBBON CUT THEIR RAPTORS RIDGE AND HONORED THE [INAUDIBLE] FAMILY ANN [INAUDIBLE] WAS THERE ALONG WITH SOME CHILDREN AND I KNOW DAVID WAS THERE WITH US IN SPIRIT.
ANN FOR MAYOR WAS IT THIRTY TWO YEARS ON THE COUNCIL, I THINK AND SO IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON AND ALSO ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE THERE AND IT'S JUST GREAT SEEING MY COLLEAGUES AT THAT EVENT.
WE MADE VERY CAREFUL ASSURANCES AND VERY CAREFUL ACTIONS ON OUR PART TO NOT HAVE A QUORUM.
WE STAYED SOMEWHAT SEPARATE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EVENT.
BUT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT, AND IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE ALL FOUR OF MY COLLEAGUES.
MR. NORBY, IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY WHEN MAYOR HALL SAID THAT ANN HAD BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR 32 YEARS, SHE CORRECTED HIM QUICKLY AND SAID, THIRTY TWO AND A HALF YEARS, AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS SO FUNNY.
[CHUCKLING] BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
OK, I'M NOT GOING TO ECHO WHAT, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, BUT WE DID HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, AT THE CHAMBER EVENT ON FRIDAY AND ALL THE RECOGNITIONS THERE AND THEN THE AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON FOUNDATION AND WHAT WAS THERE.
IT WAS REALLY A GOOD, POSITIVE WEEK FOR THE COMMUNITY AND I ONLY HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THIS UPCOMING WEEK AND THAT IS ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, THE OMNI RESORT COSTA DE LA LUNA UNVEILING CEREMONY AND THAT'S AT THE OMNI LA COSTA RESORT AT 2100 COSTA DEL MAR ROAD.
SO WE WILL BE THERE AGAIN OCTOBER 21ST FROM FIVE TO SIX P.M AND YOU MAY FIND MORE THAN TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT AT THAT LOCATION AT THAT TIME, BUT THAT MR. CHADWICK.
YES, SIR, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT COUNCILMAN BHAT-PATEL HAD MENTIONED, THE FESTIVAL [INAUDIBLE] IS ON NOVEMBER 6TH AND AT 5 P.M AND THIS IS OUR SECOND ANNUAL.
IT'S AGAIN FROM FIVE TO SEVEN AT ALGA NORTE AQUATIC CENTER.
OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MS. BREWER, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT.
WELL, WITH THAT, THEN IT IS 7:13 APPROXIMATELY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN TONIGHT'S MEETING AND EVERYBODY BE SAFE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.