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GOOD AFTERNOON, AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 20TH, 2021 MEETING OF THE CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION, AND FOR THE RECORD, MS. FLORES WOULD YOU TAKE ROLE? YES, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY PRESENT COMMISSIONER LUNA PRESENT, COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.

COMMISSIONER MEENES, PRESENT, COMMISSIONER MERZ HERE, AND COMMISSIONER SABELLICO IS ABSENT AND COMMISSIONER STINE, HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES:]

OK.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2021 MEETING.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES AT ALL FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER STINE.

YES.

SO THIS WAS A MEETING WHERE I HAD RECUSED MYSELF ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS AND I LEFT EARLY, BUT I DID NOTICE AFTER THE LAST ITEM AND I'M TALKING ABOUT PAGE FIVE OF THE MINUTES.

I BELIEVE THERE IS AN ERROR WHEN IT SAYS THE ACTION ITEM.

IT RECORDS IT AS SIX ONE ZERO.

I THINK TECHNICALLY THAT SHOULD BE SIX ZERO ONE.

I'M THE ONE, AND I HAD TO RECUSE MYSELF.

I THINK ALL COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE THERE VOTED AYE.

THANK YOU MUCH, COMMISSIONER STINE.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? OK.

SEEING NONE, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE CORRECTION COMMISSIONER LUNA.

NO BORROWING, NO OTHER COMMENTS, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WITH THE CORRECTIONS REPRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER STINE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LUNA.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MS. FLORES.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

MOVE TO APPROVE, YES.

COMMISSIONER LUNA.

YES.

COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN IS NOT WITH US YET.

COMMISSIONER MEENES, YES, COMMISSIONER MERZ, YES.

COMMISSIONER SABELLICO IS ABSENT AND COMMISSIONER STINE.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OK.

PER THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA EXECUTIVE ORDER N29-20 AND IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, WE'RE TEMPORARILY TAKING ACTION TO PREVENT AND MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF COVID 19 PANDEMIC BY HOLDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS ONLINE ONLY.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CAN BE WATCHED VIA LIVE STREAM OR REPLAYED ON THE WEBSITE AT WWW.CARLSBADCA.GOV.

IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY, YOU MAY VISIT THE CITY'S WEBSITE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PLANNING COMMISSION PAGE FOR INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO COMMENT.

WHEN EMAILING COMMENTS, PLEASE SEND TO THE PLANNING DIVISION AT THE PLANNING AT CARLSBAD CA.GOV.

PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE AGENDA ITEM AND IDENTIFIED IN THE SUBJECT LINE, THE AGENDA ITEM IN WHICH YOUR COMMENTS RELATE.

ALL COMMENTS RECEIVED WILL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.

WRITTEN COMMENTS WILL NOT BE READ OUT LOUD.

THESE PROCEDURES SHALL REMAIN IN PLACE DURING THE PERIOD OF WHICH THE STATE OR LOCAL HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE IMPOSED OR RECOMMENDED SOCIAL DISTANCING MEASURES.

OK.

[PUBLIC COMMENT:]

COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

WE'LL SET ASIDE UP TO 15 MINUTES TO ACCEPT COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA THAT IS WRITTEN.

EXCUSE ME, THAT'S WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IS PROVIDED FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

COMMENTERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EACH, UNLESS THE CHAIR CHANGES THAT TIME IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON ITEMS PRESENTED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO COMMENT IS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AND ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WEBSITE.

THERE'S ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT THESE ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

YOU CAN DO SO.

MS. FLORES, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS THAT WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? SO CHAIR, I WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT AS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT DIFFERENTLY TODAY DUE TO AN ORDER SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR RELATING TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETINGS.

AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT TO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY IF YOU ARE USING THE MEETING LINK TO LOG IN OR IF YOU'RE JOINING US BY PHONE, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME OR LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.

YOU'LL BE MUTED ONCE YOUR THREE MINUTES HAVE CONCLUDED.

ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE NOW.

MR. CHAIR, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

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WILL ALICE PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.

HI.

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS, SO I'M NOT SURE IF WITH THE AGENDA OR NOT WITH THE AGENDA, BUT IT HAS TO DO.

MY COMMENTS ARE REGARDING THE LA COSTA VILLAS NORTH REGARDING SPECIFICALLY PARKING AND TRAFFIC.

SO IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WOULD SAY NOW THAT IS ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE THE NEXT ITEM.

THIS IS FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS, SO.

OK.

JUST SIT TIGHT AND WE CAN CALL YOU WHEN THAT ITEM IS UP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

MR. CHAIR, THERE ARE NO OTHER HANDS THAT WERE RAISED FOR NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, MS. FLORES.

I APPRECIATE THE PROCEDURE FOR THE COMMISSION WILL BE AS FOLLOWS THE THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE OPENED.

STAFF WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.

PLANNING COMMISSION MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANTS WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AND RESPOND TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.

THEY'LL HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL THEN BE OPEN.

TIME LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES IS ALLOCATED FOR EACH COMMENT RECEIVED.

AFTER ALL, THOSE WANTING TO SPEAK HAVE DONE SO.

THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL BE CLOSED.

THE APPLICANT AND STAFF WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO ISSUES OR QUESTIONS RAISED.

COMMISSIONERS THEN WILL DISCUSS THE ITEM AND THEN VOTE ON IT.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED, CERTAIN PLANNING COMMISSION DECISIONS ARE FINAL, BUT MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU CAN FIND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES ON THE BACK OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

OK.

[1. CT 2019-0001/PUD 2019-0001 (DEV2018-0135) – LA COSTA VILLAS NORTH]

I'LL NOW OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE EX PARTE DISCLOSURES ON THIS ITEM? CITY ATTORNEY MR. KIM.

YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO ESTABLISH WHETHER COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN IS WITH US.

OK, BEFORE WE START, SO WE HAVE A RECORD OF WHETHER HE ENTERS LATER OR WHETHER HE'S HERE AT THE BEGINNING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE.

SO YOUR SUGGESTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME, MRS. FLORES HAS COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN INDICATED THAT HE'S READY OR NOT.

I SEE HIM IN THE MEETING.

COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN ARE YOU ABLE TO UNMUTE AND CAN YOU HEAR US? IF HE COULD, LIKE VIRTUALLY RAISE HIS HAND, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING FOR THAT THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT HE CAN HEAR US AT LEAST.

SO WE KNOW THAT HE'S PARTICIPATING BY HEARING WHAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO LET US KNOW WHETHER HE'S HEARING THE EVIDENCE BEING PRESENTED TO THE.

MS. FLORES, I REQUESTED COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN TO UNMUTE, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, I DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING A RESPONSE.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A NUMBER WE CAN EMAIL TO HIM BECAUSE WE'VE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM HIM.

MAYBE HE CAN CALL IN VIA PHONE.

YES, I WILL SEND HIM A NUMBER.

OK, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO EX PARTE DISCLOSURES, WHY WE TRY TO GET HIM ON AND THEN BEFORE JESSICA STARTS HER PRESENTATION, WE CAN CHECK IN AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

MR. KEMP, WE APPRECIATE, EX PARTE COMMISSIONER MERZ.

YES, I VISITED THE SITE.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, I LOOKED IT UP ON GOOGLE MAPS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STINE.

I DID THE SAME AS COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, I LOOKED IT UP ON GOOGLE MAPS.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

I WENT ALREADY.

COMMISSIONER LUNA.

COMMISSIONER LUNA, YOU'RE MUTED.

EX PARTE.

BECAUSE I HAVE NO EX PARTE.

THANK YOU.

I DID VISIT THE SITE AS WELL.

MR. KEMP.

I DON'T HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES COMMISSIONER.

YEAH, MAY WE PROCEED? THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW, WE NEED TO CHECK IN WITH MELISSA AND SEE IF WE'RE CONNECTING WITH COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.

YEAH, I SEE THAT HE HAS LEFT THE MEETING.

I DID EMAIL HIM THE CALL IN INSTRUCTIONS.

WOULD YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO ALLOW HIM TIME TO

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CALL IN? OR I THINK I THINK WHY DON'T WE TAKE A RECESS? WE'LL TAKE A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

WE'LL BE RETURNING AT 3:20.

OK.

YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SO OUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A PROJECT TITLED LA COSTA VILLA'S NORTH AND ASSOCIATE PLANNER JESSICA EVANS IS HERE TO MAKE THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

I'M SO SORRY, YOU GUYS TOTALLY FORGOT TO UNMUTE MYSELF LET ME START OVER.

SO THE PROJECT IS CALLED LA COSTA VILLAS NORTH PROJECT? AND THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF GIBRALTAR STREET, JUST NORTH OF LA COSTA AVENUE? THE PROJECT IS SURROUNDED BY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST, AND DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE EAST IS A VACANT PARCEL.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE IN APPROXIMATELY ZERO POINT FOUR ACRE LOT TO CONSTRUCT NINE CONDO UNITS, THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY FOR THE SITE IS FIFTEEN TO TWENTY THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS TWENTY TWO AND A HALF [INAUDIBLE] UNITS PER ACRE.

LOT COVERAGE IS APPROXIMATELY FORTY THREE PERCENT, WHERE SIXTY PERCENT IS ALLOWED, AND BUILDING A ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HAS FIVE UNITS AND BUILDING B ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE HAS FOUR UNITS.

ACCESS IS TAKEN FROM GIBRALTAR STREET AND EACH UNIT IS ACCESSED BY THE SHARED DRIVE AISLE THAT SEPARATES THE TWO BUILDINGS.

IN ADDITION, THERE IS A SHARED TRASH ENCLOSURE TOWARD THE REAR OF THE SITE, AND ALL BUILDINGS ARE DESIGNED AS THREE STORY TOWNHOMES THAT WILL SHARE A COMMON VERTICAL WALLS AND PRIVATE ROOF DECKS.

IN REGARDS TO PARKING MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS WITH TWO UNITS OR WITH UNITS THAT HAVE TWO OR MORE BEDROOMS SUCH AS THIS PROJECT REQUIRES TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT AND THEREFORE EIGHTEEN PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED ON SITE.

IN ADDITION, THE PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE THREE VISITOR PARKING SPACES.

THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO PROVIDE A TWO CAR GARAGE THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL UNIT TOTALING EIGHTEEN ONSITE PARKING SPACES, AND THE THREE VISITOR PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED ON THE STREET, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY THE ZONING CODE.

WHEN THE STREET IS AT LEAST THIRTY FOUR FEET WIDE AND GIBRALTAR STREET IS APPROXIMATELY FORTY FEET IN WIDTH.

AND IN ADDITION, THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT ON STREET PARKING WHERE THE SPACES ARE PROPOSED.

FURTHER, THE INTENT OF THE CODE TO ALLOW ON STREET VISITOR PARKING IS TO ACHIEVE HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN THE MULTIFAMILY ZONES.

HERE IS A STREET FRONT ELEVATION OF BUILDING A BUILDING A HAS FIVE, THREE BEDROOM UNITS THAT RANGE FROM TWENTY SIX HUNDRED SIX HUNDRED SQUARE FEET TO THREE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR STRUCTURES BUT THE LESS THAN A THREE TWELVE PITCH IS THIRTY FIVE FEET, AND THEIR PROPOSED BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY THIRTY FEET AND SIX INCHES.

THE STAIRWAY TO ACCESS THE ROOFTOP DECK IS ALLOWED TO PROJECT OVER THAT THIRTY FIVE FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT, AND THAT OVERALL HEIGHT IS ABOUT THIRTY NINE FEET AND SIX INCHES.

IN ADDITION TO STREET FRONTING, UNIT HAS ITS MAIN ENTRY FACING GIBRALTAR STREET, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER SIXTY SIX FOR THE DESIGN OF LIVABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.

HERE'S BUILDING B, WHICH HAS FOUR UNITS.

THREE OF THOSE UNITS ARE THREE BEDROOMS, AND ONE UNIT HAS IS A FOUR BEDROOM UNIT.

THIS BUILDING MATCHES IN HEIGHT AND DESIGN AS BUILDING A AND THE STREET FRONTING UNIT ALSO HAS ITS MAIN ENTRY FACING THE STREET AS SHOWN ON THE LEFT HAND CORNER.

HERE IS THE RENDERING OF THE PROJECT FROM THE STREET VIEW, WHICH SHOWS THE CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS IN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE BY PROVIDING MULTIPLE MATERIAL FINISHES SUCH AS STUCCO SIDING AND METAL RAILINGS, AS WELL AS VARIED WINDOW SHAPES AND SIZES THAT ARE RECESSED BY AT LEAST FOUR INCHES.

THE PROPOSED DESIGN IS ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND DESIGN, MASSING AND HEIGHT.

THE INCLUSIONARY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE IS IN PLACE TO PROVIDE A RANGE OF HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL SEGMENTS OF THE POPULATION, INCLUDING LOWER AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT FIFTEEN PERCENT OF APPROVED RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS BE RESTRICTED TO AFFORDABLE OR LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

HOWEVER, FOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE LESS THAN SEVEN UNITS, APPLICANTS ARE ONLY REQUIRED

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TO PAY A IN-LIEU FEE.

AND THIS FEE IS TO BE PAID FOR EACH MARKET DWELLING UNIT DWELLING UNIT AND IS FIFTEEN PERCENT OF THE SUBSIDY NEEDED TO MAKE ONE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED TYPICAL ATTACHED HOUSING UNIT.

AN IN-LIEU FEE IS ABOUT FORTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS PER UNIT AND IS DEPOSITED INTO A TRUST FUND THAT IS ADMINISTERED BY THE CITY AND USED FOR PROVIDING FUNDING ASSISTANCE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS WITHIN OUR HOUSING ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

AND WHEN A PROJECT HAS SEVEN OR MORE UNITS, SUCH AS THIS PROJECT IN QUESTION, FIFTEEN PERCENT OF THOSE UNITS APPROVED ARE TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND RESTRICTED TO LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, AND THEREFORE THIS PROJECT WOULD REQUIRE TWO UNITS, TWO UNITS TO BE AFFORDABLE ON SITE.

HOWEVER, THE ZONING CODE DOES ALLOW FOR ALTERNATIVES TO THIS REQUIREMENT TO BE MET WHEN IT IS DETERMINED.

THERE ARE HARDSHIPS, SUCH AS FEASIBILITY OF PROVIDING THE UNITS ON SITE WITH CONSIDERATION TO PROJECT SIZE, SITE CONSTRAINTS, MARKET COMPETITION AND PRICE.

THE ALTERNATIVES INCLUDE PROVIDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO A HOUSING PROGRAM OR PROJECT DUE TO THE PURCHASE OF HOUSING CREDITS, AND AS SUCH, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO PURCHASE TWO AFFORDABLE HOUSING CREDITS FOR THE CASSIA HEIGHTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING CREDIT [INAUDIBLE] IN ORDER TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT DUE TO CONSTRAINTS WITH THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS MARKET COMPETITION AND PRICE.

THE CASSIA HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT HAS A TOTAL OF FIFTY SIX UNITS, AND TO DATE, TWENTY TWO UNITS HAVE BEEN PURCHASED.

THERE ARE THIRTY FOUR UNITS AVAILABLE.

THE HOUSING POLICY TEAM, WHICH COMPRISES OF STAFF FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, PLANNING DIVISION, HOUSING SERVICES AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING AND APPROVING REQUESTS FOR THE PURCHASE OF HOUSING CREDITS.

SO THEY REVIEW THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL AND APPROVE THE REQUEST BASED ON THE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS.

AND THEREFORE THE PROJECT IS CONDITIONED TO ENTER INTO AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGREEMENT, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO PURCHASE THE HOUSING CREDITS AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE.

THE CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER FIFTY EIGHT, WHICH CREATED THIS ALTERNATIVE AS AN OPTION TO HELP SMALLER PROJECTS PENCIL OUT.

SO IT IS ROUTINE THAT THESE SMALLER PROJECTS UTILIZE THIS ALTERNATIVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT.

BUT IN ADDITION, THIS PROGRAM IS ALSO A MEANS OF REIMBURSEMENT TO THE CITY FOR EXISTING AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT THE CITY IS SUBSIDIZED TO MEET AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS AND SUBSEQUENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL.

THE HOUSING DIVISION WILL TAKE THE HOUSING AGREEMENT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

AND LASTLY, ONE NOTABLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE IN-LIEU FEE AND THE HOUSING CREDIT FEE IS THE COST.

ONE HOUSING CREDIT FROM THE CASSIA HEIGHTS BANK IS SIXTY SIX THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS, SO THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY A TOTAL OF ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS.

AND THIS FEE, LIKE THE IN-LIEU FEE, WILL BE DEPOSITED INTO THE HOUSING TRUST FUND AND BE USED FOR OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

AND LASTLY, THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL APPLICABLE PROVISIONS, AND THE PROJECT IS, IS IT CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM CEQA.

AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER SEVEN FOUR TWO SEVEN FOR THE PROJECT BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS CONTAINED THEREIN.

AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT AND I ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. EVANS.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, I GUESS, CLARIFYING AND BEING QUITE CLEAR ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASPECT OF THE PROJECT.

THAT WAS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY BRIEF QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? OK.

NONE WHATSOEVER WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

MS. FLORES, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT WITH US HERE? OH YES, THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE APPLICANT TEAM IF THEY'D LIKE TO UNMUTE AND TURN THEIR CAMERAS ON AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, MS. FLORES.

OH, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THIS SETUP.

THERE'S SOMEBODY I'M A I'M A 50 PERCENT PARTNER.

ONE OF THE APPLICANTS FOR THIS PROJECT AND I'M UNABLE TO UNMUTE MY VIDEO.

IT WAS HOST CONTROLLED.

OK, GIVE ME JUST A SECOND HERE.

YEAH.

AND I DID NOT HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION FOR THE PROJECT TODAY, BUT I AM PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M RICARDO.

YES, I'M ALSO AVAILABLE.

ARE YOU? COMMISSIONERS, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME, I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.

YES, MR. FERGUSON.

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YES, SIR.

YEAH.

YES.

ARE YOU HAVING A PRESENTATION OR? NO.

WE'RE QUITE HAPPY WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT JESSICA AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAVE PROVIDED.

I THINK IT'S IT'S VERY DESCRIPTIVE OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT WE ACHIEVED.

GIVEN ALL OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND WE HAVE NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, I THINK THAT WE CAN PROVIDE OTHER THAN HER EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

COULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? SURE, IT'S RICARDO FERGUSON, [INAUDIBLE] I'M PRINCIPAL ARCHITECT AT MAA ARCHITECTS.

WE'RE AT 330 RANCHEROS DRIVE IN SAN MARCOS AND THE ZIP IS 92069.

THANK YOU, MR. VATNI.

WOULD YOU DO THE SAME AND PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? OF COURSE, MY NAME IS ALI VATNI.

THERE'S JUST A SMALL TYPO IN MY LAST NAME.

IT'S VATNI AND I THANK YOU AND MY ADDRESS IS 55 RISING SUN IN IRVINE, CALIFORNIA, 92620.

OH, EXCELLENT.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS YOU WISH TO MAKE? AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, NO.

ALSO VERY, VERY PLEASED WITH THE OVERALL PACKAGE AND PRESENTATION AND INFORMATION PUT FORTH BY JESSICA EVANS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME OF OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

THANK YOU.

MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STREET GRADE AND WHERE THE TRASH ENCLOSURE IS? IF I CAN GET THIS, IS RICARDO FERGUSON, THE ARCHITECT.

I THINK OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS' ON BOARD AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET HIM TO RAISE HIS HAND AND ADDRESS THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

I AM HERE.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? THIS IS BASHAR NAJAR.

OKAY.

AND COULD YOU PROVIDE YOUR SPELLING OF YOUR NAME AS WELL AS ADDRESS, PLEASE? SURE.

IT'S A BASHAR.

LAST NAME IS NAJAR.

I AM WITH [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEERING THE CIVIL ENGINEER.

MY ADDRESS IS 10769 WOODSIDE AVENUE SUITE 204 SANTEE, CALIFORNIA.

HEY, MR. NAJAR.

DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY? YEAH, SO THE APPROXIMATE ELEVATION FROM THE STREET TO THE TRASH ENCLOSURE IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE FEET.

SO THE TRASH ENCLOSURE IS SITTING ABOUT FIVE FEET HIGHER THAN THE STREET ELEVATION.

AND CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THE.

WHY THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, LOCATION AT THE VERY DEAD END OF THIS NICE COMPLEX IS A TRASH ENCLOSURE.

CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHY THAT WAS SELECTED IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION AND MAYBE NOT SORT OF IN ANOTHER LOCATION THAT'S MAYBE NOT SO PROMINENT TO THE END OF THIS AXIS? THIS IS RICARDO AGAIN, THE ARCHITECT.

THE REASON WE SELECTED THAT LOCATION FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

ONE, IT'S THE QUIETEST LOCATION.

IT AFFORDS THE GREATEST ABILITY FOR THE TRASH TRUCK TO TURN AROUND, AND IT DOESN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE STREETSCAPE.

SO WE DIDN'T WANT OUR BUILDING TO BE DETERMINED BY A TRASH ENCLOSURE SITTING PROMINENT ON THE STREETSCAPE.

SO WE TRIED TO PUSH IT TO THE REAR OF THE SITE TO MAINTAIN THAT NICE STREET NEIGHBORHOOD AND WALKING CITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DESIGN IN THIS BUILDING.

OK.

I THINK IT'S REALLY INTERESTING WHEN AN AXIS ENDS ON A TRASH CAN, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, AND I GUESS IT'S STILL FOR THE ARCHITECT, THE DENS THAT ARE CREATED AT THE LOWER LEVEL ARE THEIR WINDOWS.

LET ME CHECK OUR PLAN AND SEE WHAT WE PROVIDED.

I'M LOOKING AT PLAN A1.

OK, GIVE ME A MINUTE TO GRAB OUR PLAN.

SO THE UNIT THAT'S CALLED THE DEN IS PARTIALLY EMBEDDED INTO THE SLOPE OF THE [INAUDIBLE], SO THERE ARE NO WINDOWS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT.

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SO IT'S NOT A BEDROOM, RIGHT? SO IT IS A TRANSITIONAL SPACE.

SO WE HAVE A RETAINING WALL AND WE OPTED NOT TO DO A WINDOW WELL BECAUSE OF A COUPLE OF REASONS.

ONE, FIRE EGRESS WOULD BE DIFFICULT.

AND THEN TWO, WATERPROOFING THE BACKSIDE OF THAT BUILDING WOULD BE EQUALLY DIFFICULT.

SO THAT DEN FUNCTIONS AS A TRANSITIONAL SPACE, NOT AS A BEDROOM, BUT A SPACE TO TRANSITION FROM THE GARAGE UP TO THE FIRST FLOOR.

ACTUALLY, THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING AND THE PRIMARY LIVING SPACES.

OK, I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED WHEN A NEW BUILDING IS BUILT AND THEY HAVE ROOMS WITH NO WINDOWS, BUT.

BUT THE I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY IT WASN'T JUST LABELED A BASEMENT OR, YOU KNOW, PLAYROOM OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW SOMETHING, MAYBE NOT A DEN.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL WORKING OUT OF OUR HOUSES.

WE NEED SOME NATURAL LIGHT HERE.

SO I WAS JUST CONCERNED WITH THAT.

IS KIND OF AN ARCHAIC WORDS.

YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A BASEMENT OR A DEN.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER SEEN A DEN IN A MODERN BUILDING RECENTLY, BUT THAT WAS THE WORD THAT WAS WAS CHOSEN.

BASICALLY, IT'S AN ACCESSORY ROOM LIKE A BASEMENT IS RIGHT.

THANKS.

I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

MR FERGUSON, I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARD TO SOIL TESTING AND WHAT HAS THE YOU AS WELL AS YOUR TEAM DONE IN REGARD TO SOIL TESTING FOR THE SITE? WELL, WE HAD A COMPLETE WELL, LET ME SEE.

ROLL THIS OVER, BASHAR, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? YES, I AM.

SO WE DID.

YES, WE HAD A FULL COMPLETE GEOTECHNICAL INVESTIGATION REPORT THAT WAS CONDUCTED THAT MEASURED THE IRRITABILITY OF THE SOIL TO MEASURE THE COMPACTION.

IT MEASURED THE THE SEDIMENT AND THE SOIL [INAUDIBLE] PRESSURE SO.

AND WE ALSO DID AN INFILTRATION TEST.

WE DIDN'T PERFORM IT OURSELVES.

I CAN PULL UP THE FIRM THAT DID IT.

I THINK IT WAS SMS THAT DID IT.

I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

BUT THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS, I KNOW IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN HISTORICAL ISSUES IN REGARD TO ADOBE SOIL AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND WAS WONDERING THE EXTENT OF THE STUDIES THAT YOU HAD DONE ON THE SITE.

YEAH, SO IT CONSISTED OF A FULL, COMPLETE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT THAT IS WITHIN THE INDUSTRY STANDARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REMEDIAL GRADING, WITH RESPECT TO COMPACTION AND WITH RESPECT TO SOIL STABILIZATION FROM EROSION.

OK.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER STINE.

YES, I NOTICED [INAUDIBLE] MR. STINE MR. STINE YOUR YOUR AUDIO IS NOT VERY CLEAR.

OK, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? BETTER, MUCH BETTER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'LL REPEAT MYSELF.

THEN I NOTICED THAT THE APPLICANT IS RELIED UPON ON STREET PARKING FOR VISITOR PARKING.

AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

I WONDER IF THE APPLICANT COULD COMMENT UPON WHETHER AN ATTEMPT WAS TO MAKE VISITOR PARKING ONSITE AS HE MADE SOME JUST ON SITE RATHER THAN RELY UPON THE STREET.

WE HAVE CONSIDERED THIS IS THE ARCHITECT AGAIN, RICARDO FERGUSON, WE HAD CONSIDERED TRYING TO PROVIDE ON SITE PARKING.

HOWEVER, THE CODE DOES ALLOW US TO USE OFF STREET PARKING, SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE.

WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO GET THE REQUISITE DRIVE WIDTH AND THEN REASONABLE SIZED UNITS IN THE BUILDING A AND BUILDING B AND THEN TO GET OUR TRASH ENCLOSURE AT THE WELL AS COMMISSIONER, LAFFERTY SAID.

THE BAD PHONE [INAUDIBLE] END OF THE LOT THERE, THE LOT IS EXTREMELY SMALL.

SO IN ORDER TO GET THE NINE UNITS, WE HAD TO RELY ON THE THREE OFF SITE PARKING SPACES FOR GUEST PARKING.

OH, OK.

LET ME SEE WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

THE STREET PARTY, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY DESIGNATION THAT THIS IS VISITOR PARKING OR IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER SECTION OF THE STREET? I BELIEVE IT'S UNMARKED, BUT I HAVE TO REFER TO JESSICA ON WHAT THE PLANNING REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE IN TERMS OF MARKING THOSE SPACES.

MS. EVANS YES, THE STREET, THE PARKING SPACES ARE UNMARKED.

AND SO THERE I THINK THEY'RE FOR, THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR THE FOR PUBLIC USE.

OK, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? OK, I'LL NOW OPEN PUBLIC TESTIMONY, MS.

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FLORES, IS THERE ANYONE WHO LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES, MR. CHAIR, THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY IF YOU'RE USING THE MEETING LINK TO LOG IN OR IF YOU'RE JOINING US BY PHONE, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME OR LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.

YOU'LL BE MUTED ONCE YOUR THREE MINUTES HAVE CONCLUDED.

ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE NOW.

MR. CHAIR, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

ALICE NOBLE.

OK.

SO LET ME ADD ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION HERE, AS MS. FLORES HAS INDICATED, YOU DO HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT STAFF.

AND AFTER YOU HAVE RECEIVED AFTER WE RECEIVED ALL TESTIMONY FROM ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, WE'LL ASK THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

PLEASE CLEARLY STATE AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS.

FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

YES, MY NAME IS ALICE NOBLE, N-O-B-L-E, I LIVE AT 2758 MECOSTA AVENUE, WHICH IS JUST ABOUT FOUR HOUSES DOWN FROM THE GIBRALTAR LA COSTA AVENUE INTERSECTION.

MY CONCERN IS ALSO OF WHAT MR. STINE BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE VISITOR PARKING.

I ALTHOUGH THAT SEEMS TO BE A REGULATION CAPABILITY, IT REALLY PUTS A BURDEN ON THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY FOR PUBLIC USE.

AND THERE'S SO I OBJECT TO HAVING VISITORS USE DESIGNATED PARKING AND FOR THAT.

ON THAT NOTE, I ALSO AM CONCERNED THAT THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE.

THAT WHOLE AREA IS INDICATED AS HIGH DENSITY.

YET NOBODY ON THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, IT SEEMS, IS CONSIDERED GREEN SPACE FOR THAT DENSITY TO JUST WALK THE AREA WITH THEIR THEIR KIDS, THEIR DOGS, WHATEVER IT'S ALL ON THE SIDEWALK.

THE GOLF COURSE DOES NOT ALLOW ANY USE FOR THE FOR NONMEMBERS.

AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC.

SO THE NINE UNIT IS EIGHTEEN CARS AND THAT'S GOING TO FALL ONTO LA COSTA AVENUE, WHICH IS ALSO ALREADY HIGHLY CONGESTED AND GETTING MORE BUSY BY THE MINUTE.

VIRTUALLY NOBODY IS STICKING TO THIS 40 MILE AN HOUR SPEED, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE THERE IS A BIG POLICE PRESENCE AND THEY ARE TICKETING, BUT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE STOPPING IT AT ALL.

AND WHEN THIS IS CONSIDERED IN CONJUNCTION WITH A PROJECT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH WAS THE LA COSTA BUILDERS, I'M SORRY, THE VISTA LA COSTA PROJECT, WHICH IS A NINETEEN UNIT PROJECT THAT'S JUST BEEN COMPLETED, WHICH IS BOTH APARTMENT AND CONDOMINIUM.

THEY HAVE ASSIGNED FOR THEIR PERMIT TWO CARS PER UNIT, BUT THEY ALSO SAY VISITOR PARKING ON STREET.

WELL, THIS IS AGAIN ISN'T FAIR TO THE PUBLIC OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S ANOTHER THIRTY SIX POTENTIAL CARS COMING TRAFFIC FLOWING ON TO LA COSTA AVENUE, WHICH IS BECOMING DANGEROUS FOR CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS COMING DOWN LA COSTA AVENUE.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THESE TWO ISSUES ADDRESSED BY THE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND AND THE ADDITION OF WHERE'S THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S GOING TO BE OF A MASTER PLAN HERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. NOBLE.

MS. FLORES, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OK, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME WOULD STAFF LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

OK.

MR. NEU.

SO IN RESPONSE TO MS. NOBLE'S COMMENTS, THE GREEN OPEN SPACE, SO THE PROJECT, A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE ISN'T REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ANY PUBLIC COMMON OPEN SPACE.

THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SOME PRIVATE RECREATION OR PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, WHICH EACH UNIT PROVIDES.

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BUT SINCE THE PROJECT IS OF A SMALLER SCALE, THERE ISN'T ANY OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO MEET.

AS FOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND CONGESTION COMMENT, THAT'S THAT'S TYPICALLY A MATTER THAT'S TAKEN UP WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THEY CAN WE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THAT WOULD THAT COULD BE APPLIED IF THERE IS A TRAFFIC ISSUE ON THE STREET.

AM I MISSING SOMETHING ELSE? MR. NEU, I DON'T.

I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS IN REGARD TO A PROJECT IN THE AREA THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE PERHAPS WAS MANAGING THEIR PARKING IN A WAY THAT REQUIRED RESIDENT PARKING WAS NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDED ON SITE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE COULD HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT LOOK INTO THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT BECAUSE SIMILAR TO THIS ONE, THE VISITOR PARKING MAY HAVE ALLOWANCES FOR OFF SITE, BUT CERTAINLY THE RESIDENT PARKING IS REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED ON SITE.

WE KNOW THERE'S CASES WHERE MAYBE THERE'S MORE CARS PER UNIT THAN ARE PROVIDED FOR IN TERMS OF PARKING, BUT EACH UNIT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE ITS REQUIRED AMOUNT OF PARKING ON THE PROJECT SITE.

THANK YOU, MR. NEU.

OK, EXCELLENT COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? OK.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

THANKS JUST ONE.

I WONDERED IF THERE WAS ANY ROOF EQUIPMENT, SOLAR PANELS, ET CETERA BEING PROPOSED, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE PACKET.

AND I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.

MR. FERGUSON OR MR. NAJAR? YES, IT'S RICARDO AGAIN, THE ARCHITECT.

WE ON OUR ROOF, WE HAVE PROVIDED A SOLAR READY AREA AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION.

WE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO ACTUALLY INSTALL HARD SOLAR PANELS.

OBVIOUSLY, AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, THAT THAT REQUIREMENT IS CHANGING.

BUT FOR THIS PROJECT, WE ONLY HAD TO PROVIDE SOLAR READY SPACE AND WE HAVE QUITE AN ADEQUATE ROOF DECK TO PROVIDE THAT SPACE AND STILL PROVIDE THE REQUISITE AMOUNT OF RECREATIONAL, PRIVATE RECREATIONAL AREA FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS.

SO THERE'S NO OTHER.

WHERE ARE THE CONDENSERS? I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION.

WELL, FOR SOLAR, WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE CONDENSERS, WE WOULD HAVE PANELS.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, THE ELECTRIC PANEL WOULD HAVE ADEQUATE CAPACITY FOR THE ADDED PANELS.

AND I BELIEVE THE BUILDING CODE NOW ALSO REQUIRES THAT EACH OF THE UNITS BE EV READY.

SO WITH RESPECT TO THE BUILDING CODE AND OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT SUBMITTAL, THOSE OTHER EV REQUIREMENTS WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT.

NO, I WAS TALKING ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING.

OH, THERE'S A YEAH, THERE'S A MECHANICAL UNIT ON THE ROOF.

EVANS.

IS THAT ISN'T IT CORRECT? WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS WITH EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF TO UNDERSTAND THE FULL.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, SO THEY CAN CONDENSERS SHOULD BE SHOWN ON THE ROOF PLANS, BUT THEY AREN'T.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IN PLACE THAT WILL REQUIRE FULL SCREENING OF ANY ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF WILL MAKE SURE IS IS PROVIDED DURING THE [INAUDIBLE] PROCESS.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY ANY OTHER.

THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED SO THAT WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THOSE MECHANICAL UNITS ARE BACK AGAINST PRETTY MUCH TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING.

SO THE CUT OFF LINE FROM THE STREET, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT, BUT OUR SECTION THROUGH THE SITE, WE'LL SHOW THAT LATER.

SO WE HAVE NO PROBLEM COMPLYING WITH THAT.

OK.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? OK, WE'LL PROCEED ON WITH COMMISSION DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

NO, LET MR. LET COMMISSIONER STINE GO FIRST.

YOU GOT IT, COMMISSIONER STINE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

INITIALLY, MY CONCERN WITH THIS PROJECT WAS THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT BUILDING

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THE AFFORDABLE UNITS ON SITE IN MY TWO AND A HALF YEARS ON THE COMMISSION.

I DON'T RECALL ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED WHERE THEY DIDN'T OR IT WAS SUBJECT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WITH SEVEN OR MORE THAT THEY DID NOT DO IT ON SITE.

BUT SO I WAS INITIALLY TROUBLED BY THAT.

BUT ON FURTHER REVIEW, AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF STAFF AND DOING MY OWN CALCULATIONS, I CAN UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE THIS IS A FAIRLY SMALL CONDOMINIUM PROJECT JUST BARELY ABOVE THE SEVEN WE'RE TALKING.

NINE IF YOU DID, IF YOU WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO UNITS AND THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE STAFF REPORT ON SITE THAT WOULD, ACCORDING TO MY MATH, THAT WOULD BE TWENTY TWO PERCENT OR WOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON SITE.

THAT'S A BIT MUCH.

AND AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, I BELIEVE THAT AN APPLICANT IS GOING TO HAVE TO SPREAD THE COST OF THOSE BELOW MARKET UNITS, AFFORDABLE UNITS, AMONG THE OTHERS.

AND THAT'S NOT MUCH OF A SPREAD OF OTHER MARKET RATE UNITS TO SPREAD THOSE COSTS TO.

SO ON FURTHER REFLECTION, BECAUSE THIS IS A SMALLER, AFFORDABLE, SMALLER PROJECT ABOVE SEVEN BUT LESS THAN TEN, I'M OK.

AND BASED UPON INFORMATION ABOUT STAFF, IS ALREADY REVIEWING IT.

COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

I'M OK WITH THE PURCHASING OF THE CREDITS SIXTY SIX THOUSAND SOME ODD PER UNIT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AGAIN, I HADN'T SEEN THAT BEFORE.

MY PREFERENCE IS ALWAYS THAT YOU ACTUALLY BUILD THE UNITS THEMSELVES, SO WE GET THE UNITS THERE, BUT I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION HERE.

THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD HAVE, I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THE VISITOR PARKING TO ME ON STREET PARKING IS REALLY NOT VISITOR PARKING AT ALL AND IMPOSES ANOTHER BURDEN ON THE STREET ITSELF.

BUT THIS IS AGAIN A FAIRLY CONSTRAINED LOT.

THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM.

FORTUNATELY, THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO PARKING SPACES FOR EACH OF THE NINE UNITS.

THAT'S GOOD.

I WOULD PREFER TO SEE SOME MORE CREATIVE DESIGN WHERE THEY FOUND A WAY TO PUT ONE OR MORE OF THOSE VISITOR PARKING SPACES ON THE PROJECT, BUT THEY DIDN'T.

I CERTAINLY WON'T VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS IMPOSE ADDITIONAL BURDENS ON STREET PARKING IN AN AREA THAT THERE ALREADY HAS BEEN SOME STREET PARKING ISSUES.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

YEAH, COMMISSIONER STINE, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE PARKING ISSUE.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, PER THE CODE, HAVING STREET PARKING IS PERMISSIBLE.

BUT YET AT THE SAME TIME, GIBRALTAR STREET DOES HAVE QUITE A FEW APARTMENTS AND OR TOWNHOMES AND PARKING DURING THE EVENING HOURS AND WHATEVER ARE EXTREMELY CONSTRAINED AND MANY ARE NOT AVAILABLE.

SO THAT WAS MY CONCERN AS WELL.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S WITHIN THE CODE, SO THEREFORE THEY CAN DO SO IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO.

FURTHER COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONERS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

EXCUSE ME.

LET ME GO WITH COMMISSIONER MERZ.

OH, GREAT.

YES, THANK YOU.

ACTUALLY, IT'S INTERESTING.

I DID ACTUALLY VISIT A PROJECT AT NIGHT TIME, AND IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY, I AGREE.

I CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER STINE AND COMMISSIONER MEENES ON THE ISSUES OF PARKING.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE OFFSITE PARKING, BUT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT SLOPE IN THE BACK, UNLESS YOU CREATE A, YOU KNOW, PRETTY BIG RETAINING WALL BACK THERE, THAT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO.

I WAS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, AT NIGHTTIME, IT'S A DIFFERENT PARKING SITUATION DURING THE DAY AND ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET AND IN ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF THE PROJECT, THERE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT TWO, MAYBE THREE EMPTY SPACES IN FRONT AND ACTUALLY SURPRISINGLY QUITE A BIT CLOSER TO LA COSTA.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A FLUID SITUATION AND IT CHANGES.

I MIGHT HAVE EXPECTED TO SEE IT TIGHTER THAN IT ACTUALLY WAS.

SO THAT'S ONE POINT IN TIME.

I RECOGNIZE THAT CAN CHANGE.

I ALSO TO AGREE WITH THE STAFF REPORT AND THE COMMENTS OF COMMISSIONER MEENES AND COMMISSIONER STINE THAT YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT DOES ALLOW FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE MY PREFERENCE EITHER, BUT THAT IS IT IS WITHIN THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODES ON.

I THINK I THINK IT'S A NICE PROJECT TOO, BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MERTZ.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I I WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER STINE AND NOT HAVING THE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS A, I THINK, A MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

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BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE SMALLER SITES AND THIS IS WHAT'S CONTINUALLY BEING DEVELOPED, SO I DON'T THINK 2500 TO 3500 SQUARE FOOT UNITS ARE ACTUALLY TINY, I THINK THEY'RE VERY LARGE.

AND SO WHICH CREATES, YOU KNOW, A MAXED OUT KIND OF BUILDING CONDITION, YOU'RE NOT EXCEEDING THE LOT COVERAGE, BUT IF YOU CAN GET A TRASH TRUCK ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK, IT SEEMS TO ME YOU COULD PROBABLY TURN AROUND A COUPLE OF CARS TO CREATE A COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES ON SITE.

SO I DON'T SEE ANY OF THIS AS BEING A DEAL BREAKER, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT THIS IS.

THE BEST WE COULD BE DOING FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOES HAVE A LOT OF HIGH DENSITY AND GETTING HIGHER, SO WE WANT TO TRY AND CREATE RESPONSIBLE REACTIONS TO THESE PROJECTS.

BUT THANKS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, COMMISSIONER LUNA.

I AGREE WITH EVERYONE, EXCEPT THAT THE ONLY POINT IS WE GET CONFUSED A LOT ON THE IN-LIEU FEE.

AND THEN AS FAR AS CITING AFFORDABLE UNITS ON THE PROPERTY AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER STINE, YOU SAID THIS WAS AN EXCEPTION AND ACTUALLY I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS AN EXCEPTION.

JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S EDIFICATION, I IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWED FOR THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE THE CHOICE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE MY COLLEAGUES AWARE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT GRANTING AN EXCEPTION HERE AND THAT THAT'S THE WAY THAT OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING SECTION IS HANDLED.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMISSION IS NOT VOTING ON AND ACCEPTING AS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

GOOD CLARIFICATION, COMMISSIONER LUNA.

APPRECIATE THAT.

ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE DISCUSSION STANDPOINT, OK MAY HAVE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER LUNA.

I MOVE APPROVAL OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LUNA, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MEENES MS. FLORES.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

YES.

COMMISSIONER LUNA.

MEENES.

YES.

COMMISSIONER MERZ, YES, AND COMMISSIONER STINE, YES.

ALRIGHT, MOTION PASSES FIVE AND TWO [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU, MS. FLORES, APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHTY.

[2. GPA 2021-0001, ZC 2021-0001, LCPA 2021-0011 (PUB 2021-0002) - AURA CIRCLE OPEN SPACE:]

WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE AN EX PARTE ON DISCLOSURES ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SITES AND DID LOOK THEM UP ON GOOGLE MAPS.

WELL, THANK YOU AND COMMISSIONER STINE.

GOOGLE MAPS, OK.

COMMISSIONER LUNA.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.

OK.

I DON'T HAVE AN EX PARTE ON THIS ONE.

PARDON.

I DO NOT HAVE AN EX PARTE ON THIS ONE.

OK.

AND I ALSO DID GOOGLE MAPS ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

OK, EXCELLENT, MR. NEU, WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM? YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SO THIS ITEM ACTUALLY COVERS TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

THE PROJECT TITLE IS THE AURA CIRCLE OPEN SPACE AND ALSO THE BUENA VISTA PARK OPEN SPACE.

AND HERE TO MAKE THE STAFF PRESENTATION IS ASSOCIATE PLANNER CRISTINA BUSTAMANTE.

THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION, DON.

WE'LL GO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, SO THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION.

THIS AFTERNOON, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT GENERAL AMENDMENTS, ZONING AMENDMENTS AND A LOCAL COASTAL PLAN AMENDMENTS.

FIRST UP, WE'LL TALK ABOUT OPEN SPACE.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE CITY.

THE AERIAL MAP SHOWS THIS PROPERTY IS ENTIRELY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL LAND USES AND CAN BE ACCESSED FROM AURA CIRCLE.

THE GENERAL PLAN CHANGE IS FROM RESIDENTIAL AND OPEN SPACE TO OPEN SPACE.

THE ZONE CHANGES FROM ONE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND OPEN SPACE TO OPEN SPACE.

AND THE LOCAL COASTAL PLAN, LAND USE AND ZONE CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL AND OPEN SPACE TO OPEN SPACE.

THE PROPOSAL WOULD ELIMINATE SPLIT PROPERTY LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS.

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THE PROPERTY IS NOT DEVELOPED.

THE LOCAL RESIDENTS ARE USING UNOFFICIAL TRAILS AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THESE ARE NOT CITY TRAILS.

AND THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, OPEN SPACE ZONE AND LOCAL COASTAL PLAN.

AND HERE'S AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE ACTION THAT WE'RE TAKING.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE HERE, THERE'S A SMALL PORTION OF AURA CIRCLE THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR RESIDENTIAL AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE LIGHTER COLOR YELLOW AND THE DARKER YELLOW.

AND WE ARE CHANGING IT ENTIRELY TO OPEN SPACE, SO IT WILL HAVE A UNIFORM DESIGNATION.

IN THIS MAP HERE IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU SAW BEFORE, EXCEPT FOR THIS IS DOCUMENTING THE LOCAL COASTAL PLAN CHANGES, WHICH ARE THE SAME.

CHANGING IT FROM TWO DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS TO ONE DESIGNATION.

AND I'M SORRY, I'M HEARING MYSELF BACK IS ANYBODY ELSE, HEARING ME AS AN ECHO.

NO, WE'RE FINE.

OH, GREAT.

OK.

OK, WELL, I'LL KEEP GOING.

I'LL MARCH ON.

SO ON MARCH 14, 2017, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE GENERAL PLAN OF LAWSUIT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND NORTH COUNTY ADVOCATES.

SECTION FOUR POINT THREE POINT ONE FIVE OF THE AGREEMENT REQUIRES THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO CONSIDER AND EVALUATE PROPERTIES FOR POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF OPEN SPACE AND USE GOOD FAITH EFFORTS TO ACQUIRE THOSE PROPERTIES ON.

TO BE CLEAR, THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY THERE WAS NOT A SITE SPECIFIC TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

ON FEBRUARY 11, 2020, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AND ADOPTED A RESOLUTION TO PURCHASE THE AURA CIRCLE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THIS ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

AURA CIRCLE WOULD BE ADDED TO THE CITY OWN HABITAT PRESERVE SYSTEM, WHICH IS ACTIVELY MANAGED BY THE CENTER FOR NATURAL LANDS MANAGEMENT.

THE CITY WOULD NOT REGULARLY MOW OR CLEAR THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT IS PRESERVED FOR PROTECTION OF OPEN SPACE.

IN THE FUTURE, THERE MAY BE A TRAIL DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR A PARK.

THE CITY'S LAND MANAGER AND RANGERS MONITOR THE SITE ON A REGULAR BASIS FOR TRESPASSING AND VANDALISM IF VAGRANTS MOVE IN CNLM CITY RANGERS AND THE CITY'S HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM, WHICH IS POLICE DEPARTMENT, CAN BE NOTIFIED IMMEDIATELY IN CASE OF ANY ISSUES, INCLUDING HOMELESS CAMPS.

RESIDENTS COULD CALL THE PD NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.

RESIDENTS SHOULD CALL 9-1-1.

ONTO BUENA VISTA PARK OPEN SPACE.

THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE WITHIN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE CITY.

THE AERIAL MAP SHOWS THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY A RESIDENTIAL LAND, USES AND ACCESSED FROM BUENA VISTA WAY.

THE GENERAL PLAN CHANGES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO OPEN SPACE AND THE ZONE CHANGES FROM ONE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO OPEN SPACE.

BUENA VISTA PARK HAS A RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION.

THE PROPOSED ACTION WOULD CHANGE THIS TO AN OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION.

THE PROPERTY IS A NEWLY COMPLETED PUBLIC PARK, SO RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO USE THE PARK NOW AND THE ACTION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND OPEN SPACE ZONE.

AND WITH THESE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE A CIRCLE PARCEL AND THE BUENA VISTA PARK PARCEL, THERE'S A COMBINATION OF NINETEEN UNITS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DEPOSITED INTO THE EXCESS DWELLING UNIT BANK.

CITY COUNCIL POLICY FORTY THREE ALLOWED FOR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THAT USE FEWER RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAN ALLOCATED TO DEPOSIT THE UNITS INTO AN EXCESS DWELLING UNIT BANK THAT COULD LATER BE WITHDRAWN AND APPLIED TO ANOTHER PROJECT.

HOWEVER, ON APRIL 6, 2021 TO THIS YEAR, THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAM TWO POINT TWO REQUIRED BY THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY, PREEMPTED THE CITY FROM IMPLEMENTING RESIDENTIAL GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN CAPS, RESIDENTIAL QUADRANT LIMITS AND RESIDENTIAL CONTROL POINTS.

AS A RESULT, WE ARE DOCUMENTING THE UNIT COUNT FOR UNIT TRACKING PURPOSES ONLY.

SB 330, WHICH WAS A HOUSING CRISIS ACT OF 2019, SAID THAT LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ARE PROHIBITED FROM REDUCING THE LEGAL LIMIT ON NEW HOUSING UNITS.

THIS ACTION PROPOSED TODAY WOULD IN FACT REDUCE THE RESIDENTIAL CAPACITY ON THESE PARCELS, BUT THE FINAL ACTION WOULD BE SCHEDULED WITH ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WOULD INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A LOSS OF RESIDENTIAL UNIT CAPACITY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

AND BEFORE I DO THE PROPOSED ACTION, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCLOSE THAT THERE IS AN

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ERRATA SHEET AND THE ERRATA SHEET IS TO REMOVE INCOMPLETE SENTENCE AT THE END OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THE TOP OF PARAGRAPH TWO OF THE STAFF REPORT AS FOLLOWS, WHICH READS AT THAT TIME.

SO THAT'S BEING STRETCHED OUT AND REMOVE FINDING SEVEN OF RESOLUTION SEVENTY FOUR [INAUDIBLE] REGARDING THE PROJECT'S CONFORMANCE TO SB 330 AS FOLLOWS, AND SO THAT SECTION SEVEN WILL BE REMOVED.

AND THEN REMOVE FINDING SIX THAT RESOLUTION SEVENTY FOUR TWENTY NINE REGARDING THE PROJECT'S CONFORMANCE TO SB 330 AS FOLLOWS SO THAT SECTION SIX WILL ALSO BE REMOVED.

SO THE PROPOSED ACTION IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT ZONE CHANGES LOCAL COASTAL OF LAND USE CHANGES, AND LOCAL COASTAL PLAN ZONE CHANGE BASED UPON THE FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS CONTAINED THEREIN.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT AND I ARE AVAILABLE TO [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU, MS. MS. BUSTAMANTE.

I'VE NOTICED THAT COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN CAME ON AND I WANT TO ASK HIM A QUESTION IN REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.

HAVE YOU HEARD THE ENTIRE ITEM FROM START TO FINISH? [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MY COMPUTER.

OK, SO THEREFORE YOU'VE HEARD EVERYTHING IN REGARD TO THIS ITEM AND THEN THEREFORE YOU ARE PARTICIPATING.

YES.

MS. FLORES, HAVE YOU ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IN REGARD TO THE RECORD? YES, MR. CHAIR.

OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE.

COMMISSIONER'S ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? IN REGARD TO THE ITEM, COMMISSIONER STINE.

YES.

WITH REGARD TO THE FIRST SITE, THE AURA CIRCLE SITE, I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF WHETHER OR NOT THIS THIS AREA AS OPEN SPACE OFFERS ANY SPECIAL VALUE IN TERMS OF HABITAT MANAGEMENT.

IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIAL ABOUT THIS THAT WORKS WELL AS OPEN SPACE AREA FOR HABITAT PURPOSES? YES, IT DOES.

SO THIS PARTICULAR AURA CIRCLE PARCEL IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN.

AND SO THE INTENT OF THIS SPACE IS TO PROVIDE A STEPPING STONE FOR LIGHT CREATURES SUCH AS OUR CALIFORNIA GNATCATCHER.

AND SO ALTHOUGH THERE IS NOT A DIRECT LAND CONNECTION TO THE OTHER EIGHT MP AREAS OR HABITAT MANAGEMENT AREAS, IT DOES PROVIDE AN AREA FOR OUR FRIENDS OUR GNATCATCHER TO BE ABLE TO GO FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER, AND IT HAS BEEN OBSERVED THAT GNATCATCHER ARE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH HABITAT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS A VIABLE OPEN SPACE PARCEL.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER FURTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

THANK YOU.

WHAT'S THE CONNECTION WITH WEST OAKS AND HAS THAT BEEN ELIMINATED WITH THE ERRATA? YES, IT HAS BEEN ELIMINATED WITH THE ERRATA.

SO WHILE WE WERE PREPARING THESE STAFF REPORT AND PRESENTATION, IT WAS ASSUMED OR AT LEAST UNDERSTOOD THAT WITH THE WEST OAKS INCREASING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ON ITS PARCEL, IT WAS PLANNED INDUSTRIAL AND CHANGED TO RESIDENTIAL.

THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF RESIDENTIAL CAPACITY ON THAT PROPERTY, AND SO, AURA CIRCLE AND BUENA VISTA PARK WERE INTENDED TO CONTRIBUTE UNITS TO THAT.

AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN COUNTED TOGETHER.

ALTHOUGH A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AS WE WERE GETTING READY, AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THAT IS NOT THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION, THAT PROCESSING CONCURRENT [INAUDIBLE] CONCURRENT THE ACTION WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD AT THE SAME TIME AS WEST OAK.

SO BECAUSE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT WE HAVE PREPARED ALL OF THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS UP TO THIS POINT.

WE WENT AHEAD AND MOVED THIS ITEM TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

BUT AS EXPLAINED EARLIER, THIS WILL ONLY BE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AND IT WILL SIT AND WAIT UNTIL THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT COMES ALONG THAT ALSO INCREASES RESIDENTIAL CAPACITY AND THEN THOSE WILL GO TOGETHER.

OK, SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE NINETEEN UNITS, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, BUT WE'RE NOT PULLING THE TRIGGER OR.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT.

THE REQUIREMENT UNDER STATE LAW UNDER SENATE BILL 330 IS THAT A CITY IS NOT ALLOWED

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TO DOWN ZONE ANY PROPERTY AND LOSE RESIDENTIAL UNITS UNLESS THERE'S A CONCURRENT ACTION TO UPSELL UNITS SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO OUR ORIGINAL INTERPRETATION WAS WEST OAKS ADDED UNITS, SO WE WOULD USE THOSE TO OFFSET THIS DOWN ZONING ACTION.

WE'VE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE FROM THE STATE THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT THEIR INTENT IS AND WHAT THE LEGISLATION IS.

AND SO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DOWNS ON THESE PROPERTIES AND REMOVE THOSE UNITS UNTIL THERE WAS UNITS ADDED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND SO WE'LL WAIT UNTIL THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE TO FINALIZE THIS ACTION.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE A PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT THIS COULD BE APPLIED TO.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT IT COULD BE APPLIED TO.

IT'S ALSO PART OF THE ACTION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TOOK IN APRIL WHERE THEY SUSPENDED THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT CAPS AND THE DWELLING UNIT CAPS.

SO WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL TRACKING THAT, BUT WE'RE WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PROJECT.

THERE COULD BE OTHER PROJECTS THAT THESE COULD BE APPLIED TO.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE HOUSING ELEMENT, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED ON IN THE NEXT ACTION.

OK.

AND DOES THE CITY HAVE STANDARDS SPECIFIC TO DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACE? YES, IT DOES.

WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT, AS WELL AS ADJACENCY STANDARDS TO AREAS THAT ARE BUILT NEXT TO HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN AREA.

SO THE ANSWER TO THAT, IN SHORT, IS YES.

BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THE LOSS OF UNITS THAT JUST ADDRESSES HOW TO DEVELOP NEXT TO A PRESERVED AREA IS THAT.

MR. LAFFERTY, THE STANDARDS WE DO HAVE ARE IN THE HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THEY'RE CALLED ADJACENCY STANDARDS, AND THEY DEAL WITH BUFFERS, LIGHT NOISE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO ANSWER PART OF YOUR QUESTION.

WE DO NOT HAVE SPECIAL STANDARDS THAT DEAL WITH NEXT TO A PARK SITE, AN ACTIVE PARK SITE OR A PASSIVE PARK.

I THINK THE COMMISSION HAD THAT ISSUE WHEN WE DEVELOPED IN THE VICINITY OF THE PARK ON CHESTNUT.

I THINK IT WAS.

SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING SPECIAL FOR THAT.

THAT WOULD BE SORT OF A CASE BY CASE IF ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO A SITE.

YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THE RESULT OF LOSING NINETEEN UNITS AND NOT HAVING AN ALTERNATE.

A LOT OF CITIES DEVELOP.

SPACES AROUND THEIR OPEN SPACE OR THEIR PARKS AT HIGHER DENSITIES AND BECAUSE OF SB 9, BECAUSE OF THESE OTHER TYPES OF LAWS THAT ARE COMING IN WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

I'M WONDERING IF THIS COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AN OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARD OR POSSIBLY INCREASE THE ZONING AROUND THESE PARK AREAS OR OPEN SPACE AREAS THAT CREATES A SOME KIND OF RESPONSIBLE BUFFER AND YOU HAVE THE HABITAT MANAGEMENT, BUT AGAINST A REGULAR PARK.

SO YOU HAVE THESE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UP THOSE UNITS WITHOUT HAVING TO DO IT IN ANOTHER PROJECT.

MR. LARDY, COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT ISSUE? YEAH.

SO WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE ON HOW SB 9 WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.

HOWEVER, PRELIMINARY INDICATIONS FROM CALIFORNIA HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE USED TO OFFSET THE LOSS OF THESE NINETEEN UNITS.

THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING RESTRICTING THE ABILITY OF A JURISDICTION TO PURCHASE LAND AND PUT IT INTO OPEN SPACE, BUT IT IS HOW IT'S WRITTEN IN THE LAW THAT MECHANICAL ACTION TAKING THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION TO OPEN SPACE RESULTS IN OF LOSS OF UNITS.

SO THEY'RE MERELY ASKING THAT WE WAIT FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO OFFSET THOSE BEFORE IT MOVES FORWARD.

WE EXPECT ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE ON IMPLEMENTATION OF SB 9 TO BE COMING OUT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR FOR THAT LAW, THAT'S EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY 1ST.

THANK YOU, MR. LARDY.

ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? OK, MR., COMMISSIONER STINE, YES, VERY BRIEFLY, THE STAFF REPORT INDICATES A NET LOSS OF NINETEEN UNITS.

I'M WONDERING IF STAFF COULD BREAK THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

HOW MANY ARE WE LOSING ON AURA CIRCLE AND HOW MANY ON BUENA VISTA? SIR, IF YOU CAN JUST A MOMENT, I'LL PULL UP THE STAFF REPORT IT WILL TELL ME.

COMMISSIONER STINE, DO KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY LOSE THE UNITS

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BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REPLACE THEM CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ZONING CHANGE.

SO WHEN IT GOES FORWARD WILL BE MAKING SURE THAT WE MAKE UP THOSE UNDER THE NO NET LOSS POLICY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THANK YOU, [INAUDIBLE].

I HAVE NUMBERS FOR YOU, SO AURA CIRCLE RESULTED IN A LOSS OF NINE UNITS.

AND BUENA VISTA PARK RESULTED IN A LOSS OF TEN UNITS.

SO TOGETHER, NINETEEN.

OK, WHICH WILL BE MADE UP WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT SO THAT THE IN THE WASH.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY NET LOSS, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OK.

ANY OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OK, I'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

MS. FLORES, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS AGENDA ITEM? AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY IF YOU'RE USING THE MEETING LINK TO LOG IN OR IF YOU'RE JOINING US BY PHONE, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME OR LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO A MUTE.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.

YOU'LL BE MUTED ONCE YOUR THREE MINUTES HAVE CONCLUDED.

ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE NOW.

MS. FLORES, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SPEAKERS THERE WILL BE? I DON'T MR. CHAIR THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP NOW I SEE NAMES AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HERE TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM OR FOR ANOTHER ITEM.

KIND OF BE THE SAME SPEECH EACH TIME.

AND THEN IF SOMEBODY DOES RAISE THEIR HAND, THEY DON'T KNOW IF IT IF IT'S FOR THIS ITEM.

BUT THERE ARE A TOTAL OF FOUR PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE.

SO IT COULD COULD BE.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

DON'T SEE ANYONE RAISE THEIR HAND, THOUGH, SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE ARE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

OK, IT APPEARS TO BE NO SPEAKERS IN.

OK.

EXCELLENT, VERY MUCH.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY THEN.

DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER? I HEARD A VOICE.

OH NO, MR. CHAIR, I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OFFICE.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE YOU GO.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

DID ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE EXCUSE ME OF THE STAFF? ANYTHING FURTHER IN THIS REGARD? OK.

HOW ABOUT DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

OK.

EXCELLENT.

ALL RIGHTY.

WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, COMMISSIONER STINE, YES, MY PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE ITEMS THAT WERE CONDENSED INTO ONE TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES.

THEY RAISE DIFFERENT ISSUES.

BUT AS TO THE BUENA VISTA AREA, I LOOKED ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

THAT'S ALREADY A PART, SO I CAN'T SEE IT RETAINING A RESIDENTIAL JURISDICTION FOR AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY FUNCTIONALLY A PARK.

THE AURA CIRCLE RAISES SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ISSUES.

IT'S NOT A PARK, IT'S OPEN SPACE, BUT THERE'S SPECIAL VALUE FOR HABITAT MANAGEMENT PURPOSES AND BASICALLY ELIMINATING THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THAT AND KEEPING IT ALL OPEN SPACE [INAUDIBLE], IT SEEMS TO BE OPEN SPACE.

I'M FURTHER INFLUENCED BY THE FACT THAT COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ACTED AND AUTHORIZED THAT THERE BE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY FOR THE CITY PURCHASING THAT.

SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF FAR DOWN THE ROAD THERE.

SO I SEE THOSE AS SEPARATE ISSUES, TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS WE'VE COMBINED INTO ONE.

BUT FOR FOR THOSE REASONS, I CAN SUPPORT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STINE.

ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY? THANK YOU.

YEAH, I DO THINK IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY WE CAN'T.

CHANGE THE OR IT CAN'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO.

INCORPORATE THESE NINETEEN UNITS, NOT IN THESE OPEN SPACE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IN THE AREAS AROUND THAT SURROUND THESE SPACES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT UP TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE IS IS ASKING US TO COMPLY WITH.

AS FAR AS NO NET LOSS OF HOUSING UNITS, BECAUSE WITH US BEFORE, YOU KNOW, NINETEEN UNITS BECOMES POTENTIALLY EIGHTY UNITS OR ALMOST EIGHTY UNITS.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF A BIG CONCERN.

HOW HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE UP EIGHTY UNITS? NINETEEN ISN'T A BIG DEAL, BUT DOES IT START TO COUNT IN THE ARENA NUMBERS? AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

SO IF WE DO START TAKING POTENTIAL ZONING ACTIONS AROUND PARKS AND OPEN SPACE

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TO CREATE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT HELP PROTECT THESE RESOURCES, INCLUDING SETBACKS, SOLAR CODE, HEIGHT LIMITS, ET CETERA, YOU KNOW SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE THESE THIS ORIENTATION AND PROTECT THESE REALLY VALUABLE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

IT SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO PURSUE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY ANYTHING FURTHER BY COMMISSIONERS.

OK.

GOOD SEEING NONE, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, COMMISSIONER LUNA.

THINK IT WAS A GREAT STAFF REPORT AND MOVING FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD VENTURE FOR THE CITY.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

EXCELLENT MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LUNA SECOND COMMISSIONER MERZ IS A SECOND MR..

CHAIR WE CLARIFY WHETHER THE ERRATA SHEETS INCLUDED IN THE MOTION? VERY GOOD POINT.

THANK YOU, MR. NEU.

YES.

THE ERRATA SHEET SHOULD BE INCLUDED WITHIN YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER LUNA, NOW MY MOTION TO REFLECT STAFF RECOMMENDATION PLUS INCLUSION OF THE STAFF ERRATA SHEET.

COMMISSIONER MERZ.

YOU AGREE.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

OK.

MS. FLORES, YES.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER LUNA.

YES.

COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN YES.

COMMISSIONER MEENES.

YES.

COMMISSIONER MERZ YES.

AND COMMISSIONER STINE.

YES.

OK.

THE MOTION PASSES SIX WITH ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND COMMISSIONER SABELLICO IS ABSENT.

THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE.

ALL RIGHTY.

I'LL NOW OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE.

[3. GPA 2019-0003 (PUB 2019-0009) – OVERVIEW OF ADOPTED 2021-2029 HOUSING ELEMENT]

AND WITH THAT.

MR. NEU, WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM? YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE IS AN INFORMATION ITEM.

IT'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE ADOPTED 2021-2029 HOUSING ELEMENT, AND SENIOR PLANNER SCOTT DONNELL IS HERE TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATIONAL OVERVIEW.

RIGHT.

WELL, GOOD TO SEE YOU BELIEVE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SINCE IT'S JUST AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, CHAIRMAN MEENES, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PRESENTATION.

SO THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE RECENTLY ADOPTED HOUSING ELEMENT THAT DOES SET OUR STRATEGY FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS ALL THE WAY THROUGH 2029 AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS START OFF WITH SOME BACKGROUND, SOME OF WHICH YOU'RE PROBABLY ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH HAVING REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO FOCUS ON THE NEW HOUSING ELEMENTS, WHAT SOME OF ITS NEW POLICIES AND PROGRAMS ARE, AND FOCUSING ON ONE IN PARTICULAR NEW PROGRAM ONE POINT ONE THE REZONE PROGRAM, WHICH IS NECESSARY FOR THE CITY TO IDENTIFY SITES TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH PROJECTIONS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

AND FINALLY, WE'LL CONCLUDE WITH NEXT STEPS, AND THOSE PRIMARILY FOCUS AGAIN ON THE PROCESS TO REZONE PROPERTIES AND THE INVOLVEMENT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE, PROBABLY IN LATE 2022 OR EARLY 2023 WITH THIS PROJECT.

SO BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, STARTING OFF WITH WHY WE DO THE HOUSING ELEMENT, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, WHY WE NEED TO DO IT, IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF STATE LAW.

UNLIKE THE REST OF THE GENERAL PLAN, IT'S SUBJECT TO MUCH SCRUTINY AS WELL AS REVIEW BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF UPDATING THE HOUSING ELEMENT EVERY EIGHT YEARS.

SO WHILE WE JUST COMPLETED IT THIS YEAR, WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN IN 2029.

IT IS A DOCUMENT THAT RELIES HEAVILY ON PUBLIC INPUT THAT PRIMARILY OCCURRED IN 2020 WITH OUR HOUSING ELEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, OF WHICH COMMISSIONER LUNA WAS A MEMBER, BUT IT ALSO EXTENDED THROUGH THE EARLY PART OF THIS YEAR AS WE RELEASED DRAFTS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND PRESENTED IT TO YOU HOUSING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL, THAT PUBLIC INPUT CONTINUES AS WELL.

CURRENTLY, WE ARE OUT NOW SEEKING INPUT ON THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL HOUSING SITES.

WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUST A BIT.

A REASON WHY WE DO THE HOUSING ELEMENT AS WELL, BESIDES SIMPLY THAT IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF STATE LAW IS THAT AN ADOPTED HOUSING ELEMENT ENABLES US TO QUALIFY FOR SOME GRANTS AND ENABLES US TO AVOID POTENTIAL LAWSUITS AND FINES.

THERE IS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION AB 101, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT STATES THE STATE CAN FIND CITIES UP TO SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS PER MONTH IF HOUSING ELEMENTS ARE NOT TIMELY

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[INAUDIBLE].

SO REVIEWING THE CITY ACTIONS, BOTH YOU AND THE HOUSING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT IN MARCH THAT WAS FOLLOWED A MONTH LATER BY THE CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION TO ADOPT THE DOCUMENT.

AND IN ADDITION TO ADOPTING THAT DOCUMENT, A POLICY DOCUMENT, THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO TOOK A COUPLE OF OTHER ACTIONS, AND THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN REFERENCED IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION AND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL FOUND THE HOUSING GAPS ESTABLISHED BY OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN AS UNENFORCEABLE.

AND THAT PRIMARILY RELATES TO SENATE BILL 330, WHICH WAS PASSED IN 2018, I BELIEVE, WHICH STATED THAT THE CITY COULD NOT OR CITIES NOT JUST CARLSBAD OR COULD NOT IMPOSE LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT FINE, THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO DIRECTED STAFF TO FIND ADDITIONAL SITES SITES THAT WOULD BE ALTERNATIVES TO A SITE.

THE HOUSING ELEMENT IDENTIFIED KNOWN AS SITE 13, WHICH IS LOCATED ALONG POINSETTIA LANE, EAST OF [INAUDIBLE] PARKWAY, AS WELL AS PROPERTY IN THE PONTO AREA KNOWN AS PLANNING AREA F.

THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVE FROM CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL WAS TO FIND ALTERNATIVES OR REPLACEMENTS FOR THOSE TWO PROPERTIES.

FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION TO APPROVE THE DOCUMENT, THE HOUSING ELEMENT WAS THEN SUBMITTED TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND IN JULY OF THIS YEAR WE DID RECEIVE THE STATE'S CERTIFICATION, A LETTER FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INDICATING THAT IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLIED WITH HOUSING ELEMENT LAW.

NOW, THAT LETTER ALSO SAID THE CITY NEEDS TO BE MINDFUL OF IMPLEMENTING ALL OF ITS PROGRAMS TO MONITOR THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO THAT ON A YEARLY BASIS THROUGH OUR ANNUAL HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRESS REPORT, WHICH IS PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, TYPICALLY IN THE SPRING OF EACH YEAR AND ALSO PROVIDED TO THE STATES SO THEY CAN SEE THE PROGRESS WE ARE MAKING AND ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT THE HOUSING ELEMENT EFFECTIVELY.

SO WHAT'S NEW WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT, IF WE COMPARE IT WITH THE LAST HOUSING ELEMENT, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2017, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT AWAY IT'S A MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL DOCUMENT.

THE NUMBER OF PAGES HAVE INCREASED BY TWO TIMES.

WE'VE ADDED ELEVEN PROGRAMS, AND PERHAPS MOST STRIKINGLY, WE'VE TRIPLED THE NUMBER OF OBJECTIVES.

AND THAT REALLY IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF A WORKLOAD ASPECT, BECAUSE THOSE OBJECTIVES OFTENTIMES IDENTIFY VERY SPECIFIC DEADLINES BY WHICH THE CITY MUST COMPLETE CERTAIN ACTIONS, WHETHER IT'S AMENDING A ZONING ORDINANCE STANDARD, ADOPTING A NEW PROGRAM OR IN THE CASE OF PROGRAM ONE POINT ONE THAT YOU SEE HERE.

REZONING PROPERTIES TO HELP MEET OUR REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

IN ADDITION TWO NEW SECTIONS, HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT ONE ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SIMPLY TO BETTER FIND THAT THE CITY BE BETTER ABLE TO EXPRESS THE RESOURCES WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE WITH HOUSING NEEDS AND A NEW SECTION ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AS WELL.

THERE IS ALSO A GREATLY EXPANDED SECTION ON FAIR HOUSING, WHICH WAS REVISED AND EXPANDED TO COMPLY WITH NEW LAW, AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING LAW.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS DOCUMENT SERVES AS A VERY THOROUGH AND COMPLETE DEMOGRAPHICS SOURCE, AND IT HAS ALL NEW DATA WITH REGARDS TO SIZES OF HOUSEHOLDS, RENTAL PRICES, COST OF HOUSING IN TERMS OF OWNERSHIP, AGE, ETHNICITY, POPULATION FIGURES.

ALL OF THAT IS CONTAINED AND UPDATED IN THE RECENTLY ADOPTED HOUSING BILL.

IN TERMS OF WHAT'S THE SAME, THE ORDER AND THE FORMAT IN MOST OF OUR PRIOR HOUSING ELEMENTS, AT LEAST OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS, HAS REMAINED THE SAME AND CONTINUES TO BE IN THE PRESENT HOUSING ELEMENT AS WELL.

YOU'LL FIND A DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL OF THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT HAS OCCURRED GRAPHICS INFORMATION, INFORMATION ON THE RESOURCES THE CITY HAS TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE DOCUMENT AND THE BACK OF THE DOCUMENTS.

SECTION 107 IS THE ONE THAT CONTAINS ACTUALLY THE STRATEGIES, THE POLICIES AND THE PROGRAMS. AND SPEAKING OF THOSE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS, MANY OF THEM FROM PRIOR ELEMENTS, NOT JUST THE MOST RECENT ONE REMAIN EFFECTIVE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S NO REASON TO ELIMINATE A PROGRAM ON INCLUSIONARY HOUSING OR DENSITY BONUS OR SENIOR HOUSING.

MANY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN IN OUR ELEMENTS FOR THE PAST DECADE OR 15 YEARS CONTINUED TO BE EFFECTIVE AND APPLICABLE AND ARE IN THE RECENTLY ADOPTED ELEMENT.

IF WE KIND OF GIVE AN OVERALL NUMBERS PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THIS ELEMENT DOES AND HOW IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED, WE HAVE THIS EIGHT YEAR HOUSING CYCLE.

WE ACTUALLY NEED TO DEMONSTRATE WE HAVE SITES FOR NEARLY FOUR THOUSAND

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HOUSING UNITS.

WE'VE GOT FORTY FIVE POLICIES THAT PLANNERS, DEVELOPERS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN NOW USE AS THEY REVIEW HOUSING PROJECTS.

THIRTY EIGHT PROGRAMS AND FORTY TWO MONTHS, AND THE FORTY TWO MONTHS REALLY IS THE TIME PERIOD IN WHICH THE CITY MUST MAKE CHANGES, WHETHER IT'S TO PROPERTIES IN TERMS OF ZONING, WHETHER IT'S IMPLEMENTING A NEW REQUIREMENT REGARDING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

WE HAVE BASICALLY THREE AND A HALF YEARS TO MAKE A NUMBER OF CHANGES.

SO IN ADDITION TO COMING FORWARD TO YOU WITHIN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS OR SO WITH REZONING, WE WILL ALSO BE COMING FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING VARIOUS AMENDMENTS TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH STATE HOUSING LAW.

AND HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT AN OVERALL CHART.

OF COURSE, WE'VE COMPLETED THE FIRST TWO APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS.

WE ARE NOW AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE.

WE'VE GOT THE NEXT FORTY TWO MONTHS HAS MENTIONED TO LAY THE STRATEGY AND PUT IT IN PLACE TO AFFECT HOW WE ADDRESS HOUSING NEEDS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE END OF THE HOUSING CYCLE IN 2029.

SO LET'S GET BACK TO THE NUMBER THAT I MENTIONED REGARDING HOUSING UNITS.

WE HAVE A GROWTH ESTIMATE FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THAT SAYS IN CARLSBAD OVER THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS, WE MUST FIND SITES FOR NEARLY FOUR THOUSAND HOUSING UNITS.

THIRTY EIGHT HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE, TO BE EXACT, THOSE UNITS ARE BROKEN DOWN BY THE THREE INCOME CATEGORIES THAT YOU SEE.

THE MAJORITY OF THE UNITS TWO THOUSAND NINETY FIVE NEED TO BE PROVIDED IN THE LOWER INCOME CATEGORY.

NOW, THE STATE DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE ADEQUATE SITES TO MEET THESE DIFFERENT INCOME CATEGORIES BASED REALLY ON DENSITY, DENSITY IS A PROXY FOR AFFORDABILITY.

PRESUMABLY, THE MORE DENSE A PROJECT, THE LOWER THE CONSTRUCTION COST, THE LESS EXPENSIVE THE HOUSING IS AND IN THE STATE SIZE HAS DEMONSTRATED OUR HOUSING ELEMENT.

DENSITIES OF AT LEAST TWENTY SIX AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE IN CARLSBAD ARE DETERMINED TO BE SUITABLE FOR LOWER INCOME FAMILIES.

SO THE STATE LOOKS AT SITES WITH THAT DENSITY IN ORDER TO VERIFY THAT WE INDEED HAVE ENOUGH SITES TO ACCOMMODATE TWO THOUSAND NINETY FIVE UNITS.

FORTUNATELY, WITH THAT, THREE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE UNIT NUMBER, WE CAN REDUCE IT BY DEDUCTING THINGS SUCH AS PENDING PROJECTS, APPROVED PROJECTS, THE [INAUDIBLE] APARTMENTS PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED.

THE CARLSBAD STATION PROJECTS THOSE PENDING AND APPROVED PROJECTS ENABLE US TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER.

WE CAN ALSO REDUCE THAT NUMBER SIMPLY BY OUR VACANT LAND INVENTORY.

RESIDENTIAL LAND THAT EXISTS TODAY HAS, OF COURSE, A CERTAIN POTENTIAL YIELD.

WE CAN ESTIMATE THAT YIELD AND FURTHER REDUCE OUR ARENA ALLOCATION.

IN ADDITION, THE STATE PERMITS THE CITIES TO ESTIMATE A NUMBER OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THAT WILL BE BUILT YEARLY FOR THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS.

WHEN WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE REDUCTION POSSIBILITIES, WE CAN REDUCE OUR ARENA NUMBER AND END UP WITH WHAT YOU SEE HERE, WHAT WE CALL A NET ARENA ALLOCATION.

WHAT THIS INDICATES IS WE STILL NEED TO FIND SITES FOR NEARLY FOURTEEN HUNDRED LOWER INCOME UNITS AT A DENSITY OF AT LEAST TWENTY SIX AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE.

OUR EXISTING RESIDENTIAL LAND INVENTORY IS NOT ADEQUATE.

WE NEED TO IDENTIFY SITES TO PROVIDE THAT LOWER INCOME UNITS, AS WELL AS MODERATE INCOME UNITS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE STATE HIGHLY RECOMMENDS.

DUE TO THE NO NO NET LOSS REQUIREMENTS OF SB 166, THAT WE ALSO INCLUDE A BUFFER.

IN ADDITION TO THAT NET ARENA FIGURE, CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A THIRTY PERCENT BUFFER.

THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

WHEN THAT BUFFER IS ADDED TO OUR NET ARENA FIGURE, WE END UP WITH ACTUALLY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS AT THE CITY NEEDS TO FIND SITES FOR TO ACCOMMODATE AGAIN.

MOST OF THOSE UNITS ARE IN THE LOWER INCOME CATEGORY, AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU ADD BOTH THE LOWER AND MODERATE INCOME CATEGORY.

WE HAVE ABOUT TWENTY SIX HUNDRED UNITS FOR WHICH WE NEED TO FIND SITES.

SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? PRIMARILY THROUGH ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS, IN FACT, THE VERY FIRST IN THE NEW HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAM, ONE POINT ONE, THIS IS ALL ABOUT REZONING PROPERTIES TO MEET THAT ARENA NEED THAT NEARLY TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED UNITS.

WE HAVE TO COMPLETE THIS BY STATE LAW BY APRIL OF 2024.

OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO COMPLETE IT BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR OR THE BEGINNING OF 2023.

NOW, MOST OF THE SITES TO ACCOMMODATE THIS REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THOSE TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED UNITS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED THEY'RE IN HOUSING ELEMENT APPENDIX C THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HOUSING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR.

IN ADDITION, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE STAFF DIRECTION TO FIND ALTERNATIVE SITES OR REPLACEMENTS FOR PROPERTY IN THE PONTO AREA, AS WELL AS

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THAT SITE 13 ALONG [INAUDIBLE] LANE.

WHEN WE COMBINE SITES ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN APPENDIX C WITH THE FOUR ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE ADDED AS REPLACEMENTS, WE END UP WITH A TOTAL OF EIGHTEEN POTENTIAL SITES ON WHICH WE CAN RE DESIGNATE TO ACCOMMODATE OUR REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

SO THE MAP ON THE LEFT HERE IS SIMPLY ALL OF THE PROPERTIES.

AND BECAUSE OUR RESIDENTIAL LAND INVENTORY IS NOT ADEQUATE TO MEET THOSE GROWTH PROJECTIONS, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT PROPERTIES THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USES, INDUSTRIAL USES, GOVERNMENT OWNED SITES, SITES THAT MAY BE AT A LOWER DENSITY NOW THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE INCREASED.

THESE ARE SIMPLY POTENTIAL HOUSING SITES.

THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS A BLOW UP OF THE CITY'S SOUTHWEST QUADRANT.

WHAT IT DOES IS IDENTIFY THOSE FOUR ADDITIONAL SITES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADDED AS A WAY TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS OF THE UNITS AND THE PONTO AREA, AS WELL AS SITE 13.

THESE ARE THE SITES THAT HAVE NOW BEEN PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL INPUT.

SPEAKING OF WHICH, WE ARE IN THE MIDST NOW ARE ACTUALLY TOWARDS THE TAIL END OF RECEIVING PUBLIC INPUT ON THOSE EIGHTEEN SITES.

WE WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO TO RECEIVE APPROVAL OF AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN TO REACH OUT REGARDING THE SITES, AS WELL AS TO RECEIVE VERIFICATION OF THE SITES TO ADD IN.

THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT CITY COUNCIL BLESSED THE ENGAGEMENT PLAN AND WE THEN EMBARKED JUST BEFORE LABOR DAY ON PUBLIC INPUT, REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO RECEIVE INPUT ON THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

THE EIGHTEEN DIFFERENT SITES THAT INCLUDED BOTH AN ONLINE SURVEY AND INTERACTIVE MAP TWO VIRTUAL MEETINGS, AS WELL AS BOTH VIRTUAL AND IN-PERSON PRESENTATIONS TO LOCAL GROUPS.

THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD.

WE'VE HAD UPWARDS OF 40 PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THE TWO VIRTUAL MEETINGS.

WE'VE HAD NEARLY A THOUSAND RESPONSES TO THE ONLINE SURVEY AND PROBABLY CLOSE TO ONE HUNDRED OR MORE EMAILS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED WITH REGARD TO THE SITES IDENTIFYING PEOPLE'S PREFERENCES, LIKES AND DISLIKES WITH REGARDS TO THE VARIOUS PROPERTIES.

SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN INTERACTIVE MAP THAT IS ON THE CITY'S HOUSING PLAN WEBSITE.

PEOPLE ARE FREE TO OPEN THIS UP AND CLICK ON THE DIFFERENT COLORED PROPERTIES TO SEE WHERE HOUSING POTENTIALLY COULD GO, TO CLICK ON THEM AND RECEIVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT EACH OF THE PROPERTIES.

AND THIS HAS BEEN A VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL.

I THINK BOTH FOR STAFF AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO REACT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AND DISCUSS WHERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED.

SO DIVERTING A BIT FROM PROGRAM ONE POINT ONE WITH REGARDS TO REZONING SITES, I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE OTHER NEW PROGRAMS IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

ONE ONE POINT TWO REGARDS PROMOTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

THAT'S PARTLY IN THERE BECAUSE THE STATE IS ALLOWING THE CITY TO COUNT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THAT WE THINK WILL BE BUILT OVER THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS.

TO ENCOURAGE THAT, WE NEED A PROGRAM TO PROMOTE THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT PROGRAM IN JUST A SECOND, BECAUSE THE STATE HAS DECLARED WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS.

WE HAVE A PROGRAM TO STREAMLINE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE A PROGRAM TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL WAYS TO LOCATE HOUSING IN MIXED USE AREAS.

EXISTING COMMERCIAL AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS HAVE THE CITY MORE INVOLVED WITH DEVELOPMENT OF SITES, A CITY OWNED SITE PERHAPS WHERE THE CITY CAN USE ITS OWNERSHIP AND ITS ABILITIES TO LEVERAGE PERHAPS THE PRODUCTION OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE ALSO HAVE NEW PROGRAMS REGARDING ANTI SEGREGATION, ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND FINALLY ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

TAKING A LOOK AT A FEW OF THE PROGRAMS IN PARTICULAR, THIS IS PROGRAM ONE POINT TWO REGARDING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE IS OBJECTIVE E, WHICH REQUIRES THE CITY BY APRIL OF 2023 TO DEVELOP AT LEAST FOUR PRE-APPROVED ADU PLANS THAT PROVIDE A VARIETY IN TERMS OF HOW [INAUDIBLE] WHAT ITS SIZE WOULD BE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT ITS STYLE AND ITS TYPE.

BY DEVELOPING THESE, THESE PROTOTYPE PLANS, THEY'RE MEANT TO PROVIDE AN OFF THE SHELF RESOURCE THAT RESIDENTS CAN USE TO QUICKLY GET THROUGH THE CITY PERMIT PROCESS AND CONSTRUCT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE SIMPLE OR SIMPLE OBJECTIVES, SUCH AS MAINTAINING AND UPDATING INFORMATIONAL BROCHURES.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, AT LEAST THREE OF THE OBJECTIVES HERE HAVE SPECIFIC DEADLINES BY WHICH THE CITY MUST MEET.

WE'VE ALSO GOT PROGRAM ONE POINT EIGHT WITH REGARDS TO MIXED USE, AND I HIGHLIGHTED [INAUDIBLE] HERE BECAUSE IT IS IN RESPONSE TO A PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION

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THAT WE EVALUATE AND CONSIDER THE EXPANSION OF LIVE WORK ZONING ALLOWANCES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THERE IS A DEADLINE OF APRIL 2023, WHICH MEANS STAFF WOULD LIKELY BRING FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, POSSIBLE CHANGES TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE OR MASTER PLANS THAT WOULD ALLOW OR WOULD CONSIDER THE ALLOWANCE OF LIVE WORK UNITS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND FINALLY PROGRAM FOUR POINT THREE ANTI SEGREGATION.

I INCLUDED THIS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE VARIETY AND PERHAPS THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, CALLS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PLACEMAKING PROGRAM IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO BY APRIL 2023.

THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX PROGRAM.

IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO DETERMINE EXACTLY HOW IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS TO DO SO.

BUT ITS OBJECTIVE IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT PORTIONS AT LEAST OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MAY BE HISTORICALLY CONSIDERED UNDERSERVED.

AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO RECOGNIZE, RECOGNIZE NOT ONLY THE CULTURE THERE, BUT WAYS TO IMPROVE ACCESS SIMPLY AND ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THAT AREA CAN HAVE.

SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, WE ARE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF A PUBLIC INPUT AND DEVELOPMENT PHASE IN TERMS OF DETERMINING WHAT SITES WILL ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM.

ONE POINT ONE THE REZONE PROGRAM WE ARE ACTUALLY COLLECTING EMAIL COMMENTS THROUGH THE END OF THIS WEEK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THE EIGHTEEN DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, WHETHER IT'S PART OF AN ONLINE SURVEY OR SUBMITTED AN EMAIL WILL BE COMPILED AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL EARLY NEXT YEAR.

IN ADDITION TO SHARING THE COMMENTS WITH THEM, WE WILL BE REQUESTING THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECT US ON WHICH OF THE EIGHTEEN SITES TO FORMALLY STUDY.

IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT NOT ALL OF THE EIGHTEEN SITES WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEXT PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS TO REVIEW SITES ENVIRONMENTALLY.

OWNERS OF SOME OF THOSE SITES MAY NOT REQUEST THAT THEIR PROPERTY BE DESIGNATED.

CERTAIN SITES MAY BE UNPOPULAR WITH THE COMMUNITY.

NEVERTHELESS, WE ARE SEEKING CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION ON WHICH SITES TO STUDY AND WHICH ONCE WE HAVE THAT DIRECTION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REVIEW PROCESS.

RELEASE AN ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT WE HOPE TOWARDS THE END OF NEXT YEAR AND THEN AGAIN, COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL LATE THIS YEAR.

EXCUSE ME, LATE IN 2022 OR EARLY 2023, WITH REQUEST TO ACTUALLY RE DESIGNATE PROPERTIES THROUGH FORMAL PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEW STATE LEGISLATION IN TERMS OF SB 9, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE STATE LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED IN THE RECENT YEARS THAT THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT MUST COMPLY WITH.

WE MUST ALSO COMPLY WITH ADDITIONAL NEW LEGISLATION.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE, I THINK, THIRTY ONE PLUS BILLS THAT GOVERNOR NEWSOM RECENTLY SIGNED.

ALL HAVING TO DO WITH HOUSING SB EIGHT IS SIMPLY AN EXTENSION OF THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT.

THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT IS ALSO KNOWN AS SB 330, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT SAYS CITIES CANNOT IMPOSE LIMITATIONS ON THE DWELLING UNIT CAP, WHEREAS SB 330 ACTUALLY EXPIRED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSING CYCLE IN 2025, SB 8 EXTENDED THAT TO BEYOND THE HOUSING CYCLE.

SO NOW THAT HOUSING CRISIS ACT AND THE LIMITATION ON DWELLING UNITS ACTUALLY DOES NOT EXPIRE UNTIL 2030.

AND AS YOU KNOW, SB 9, THE IDEA OF ALLOWING LOT SPLITS OF EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY LOTS TO POTENTIALLY ALLOW FOR TWO OR PERHAPS FOUR HOMES.

THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF LEGISLATION SB 10, WHICH WOULD PERMIT UP TO 10 HOMES ON CERTAIN PARCELS IN TRANSIT AREAS AND THEN FINALLY, AB 803 WHICH PERMITS SMALL LOT HOMES.

DETACHED HOUSING ON MULTIFAMILY LOTS.

ALL OF THESE ALL OF THESE BILLS, EXCUSE ME, ARE MANDATORY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SB 10, WHICH IS AN OPTIONAL BILL.

THE CITY STILL IS IN THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING HOW THEY SHOULD BEST BE IMPLEMENTED, WHERE IN THE CITY, WHERE IN THE CITY THEY SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED, AS WELL AS WE ARE SEEKING GUIDANCE, OF COURSE, FROM THE STATE AND GROUPS SUCH AS THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION TO HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW TO BEST IMPLEMENT THIS LEGISLATION.

FOR MORE INFORMATION, WE DO HAVE A WONDERFUL WEBSITE, THE ADDRESS OF WHICH IS HERE, WHICH PROVIDES UP TO DATE INFORMATION, INCLUDING AS A MATTER OF FACT, A LINK TO THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE HOUSING ELEMENT ITSELF AND A VARIETY OF ADDITIONAL BROCHURES INSIGHTS THE ONLINE MAP THAT'S AVAILABLE THAT IDENTIFIES ALL OF THE EIGHTEEN PROPERTIES.

ALL OF THAT CAN BE FOUND ON THIS WEBSITE.

IT IS A VERY GOOD RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE WHO WISH TO STAY UP TO DATE ON THIS PROJECT.

AND WITH THAT, I'D CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, AND I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR.

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DONNELL.

EXCELLENT PRESENTATION, AS USUAL.

THANK YOU.

YOU, YOU HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK.

WE APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION, YOUR MR. DONNELL, IN REGARD TO SB 9 AND 10, YOU HAD INDICATED THAT THE CITY WOULD BE DETERMINING IN THE FUTURE HOW TO IMPLEMENT.

WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT STAFF WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW IN REGARD TO THOSE PARTICULAR BILLS THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF TODAY? WE'RE TRYING TO FAMILIARIZE OURSELVES WITH THE BILLS RIGHT NOW.

ONE THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS UNDERSTAND WHAT PARTS OF THE CITY, FOR EXAMPLE, SB 9, MIGHT APPLY TO THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES OF THAT BILL, SO TO SPEAK.

SO THERE'S SOME INITIAL EFFORT IN THAT REGARD.

BUT WE ARE WAITING FOR DIRECTION FROM, SAY, STATE APA TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE BILL, AS WELL AS GUIDANCE THAT THE STATE WILL EVENTUALLY PUT OUT.

IT DOES NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR.

SO YEAH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL NEED TO COME BACK IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW, WITH AMENDMENTS TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT THE EXTENT OF THAT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED.

YEAH, BECAUSE WITH 10 IN REGARD TO TRANSIT RICH AREAS, YOU KNOW, OUR TRANSIT RICH AREA HAPPENS TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE, THE BARRIO, ET CETERA.

AND THAT HAS AN IMPACT, OBVIOUSLY ON OUR VERY ON THE BARRIO VILLAGE AND MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN WRANGLING WITH FOR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.

SO THAT I SEE IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AS TO HOW THAT WILL BE INTERTWINED IN REGARD TO DEVELOPMENT IN THE VILLAGE AREA.

CORRECT.

AND THAT SB 10 IS OPTIONAL LEGISLATION, SO THE CITY IS NOT MANDATED TO COMPLY WITH IT.

OKAY.

EXCELLENT.

COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER LUNA.

SO AS WE'RE SITTING HERE, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH SCOTT FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS AND THEN ERIC JOINED US.

AND DON, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY A FLOCK OF DUCKS ON THE WATER.

THEY LOOK SO CALM.

THEY LOOK SO UNDER CONTROL.

BUT UNDERNEATH THEIR FEET ARE FLIPPING AND FLOPPING, AND THEY'RE DOING A STELLAR JOB.

AND MY CONCERN IS, AS WE GET TO THE CITY COUNCIL CHOOSING A PLAN, I'M SURE YOUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND AND OUR CITY MANAGER WILL BE TAKING A LOOK AT ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE PROJECTS SO THAT WE DO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

AND I KNOW COUNCILOR [INAUDIBLE], THEY HAVE A CONTRACTED OUT FOR COUNCIL ALSO WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

SO THEY'RE ALL A BUNCH OF DUCKS FLOATING ON THE POND AND LOOK CALM AND HAPPY AND AND EATING THEIR VEGETATION.

BUT UNDERNEATH THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE UNDERTAKING AND UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH IT, I DON'T THINK I THINK PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH.

AND SO I'M JUST HOPING OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS BEEN PRETTY GENEROUS IN THE PAST, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL CONTINUE AND WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO IMPLEMENT THESE PROGRAMS AS SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS SIT HERE ON THE DAIS OR WE'D LIKE TO SEE THIS.

WE LIKE TO SEE THIS.

WE LIKE TO SEE THAT.

SO YOU CAN BUY, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY NOT THE MERCEDES.

YOU CAN BUY THE HIGH END TESLA, BUT YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN PAY THE INSURANCE ON IT AND YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE IT DOES ONCE IN A WHILE NEED SOME MAINTENANCE.

SO WE'RE BUYING INTO A HUGE, HUGE PROGRAM HERE THAT THE STATE HAS SORT OF PUT US IN A CORNER.

AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN THE PLAN.

AND I CAN'T I CAN'T CONGRATULATE THE STAFF ENOUGH ON GETTING THE CERTIFICATION.

A LOT OF OTHER CITIES YOU MAY BE READING HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THE CERTIFICATION, SO YOU CAN ATTRIBUTE IT HONESTLY TO THESE GENTLEMEN BEFORE US AND SOME THAT AREN'T BEFORE US RIGHT NOW.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORT IN THIS COMMISSION IS SPOILED BY YOU GENTLEMEN AND THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO US.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WELL SAID, I HAVE TO SAY COMMISSIONER LUNA, YOUR VISUAL DESCRIPTIONS OF DUCKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

MY MIND WAS JUST GOING CRAZY IN REGARD TO FOLLOWING YOU THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION.

EXCELLENT.

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WE APPRECIATE THE VISUAL ON THAT.

AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER LUNA IN REGARD TO STAFF, THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT STAFF HAS DONE IN REGARD TO THE PRESENTATION AND THE AND THE OUTREACH HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL.

I APPRECIATE THAT AS MUCH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

I'M NOT.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN, STANDARD DEVELOPMENT AND THE ADU DEVELOPMENT, I WONDERED IF YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHAT HAPPENED AT COUNCIL YESTERDAY.

I'M SORRY, NO, I CANNOT.

SORRY.

WE'LL DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUE, ERIC LARDY, TO SEE IF HE CAN PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.

GREAT.

YES.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY THE CITY COUNCIL TOOK ACTION ALMOST AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

THEY MADE ONE MODIFICATION TO THE SIZE OF THE COMMITTEE, WHERE THEY ADDED AN ADDITIONAL REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE VILLAGE AREA AND AN ADDITIONAL REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE BARRIO AREA.

SO THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL COMMITTEE UP FROM SEVEN TO NINE MEMBERS.

OH, I WANTED TO KNOW, DID THE CONTRACTS GET SIGNED FOR THE CONSULTANTS TO DO THE WORK ALSO? YES, THE CONTRACTS FOR THE ADU, AS WELL AS THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WERE BOTH APPROVED BY COUNCIL YESTERDAY.

OK, THAT'S GOOD.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION THE HOUSING ELEMENT DOES TALK ABOUT THE GOALS OF MAINTAINING CARLSBAD COMMUNITY VISION AND MY FAVORITE TOPIC OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

I WONDERED IF ANYTHING HAPPENED WITH THAT.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD THAT THEY'RE ADDING PEOPLE TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT I'M CONCERNED WE DON'T HAVE AN INVENTORY OF HISTORIC RESOURCES TO POTENTIALLY PROTECT AND OR ENHANCE BY THIS HOUSING ELEMENT.

SO WE WANT TO.

I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS ANY KIND OF INFORMATION ON THAT.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

IN THE PRESENTATION THE COUNCIL RECEIVED ON THE MILLS ACT YESTERDAY, THERE WAS RECOGNITION IN THAT THAT SHOULD THEY PURSUE IT, AND THEY DID ASK THAT IT STAFF PURSUE COMING BACK WITH, I THINK BASICALLY THE PROGRAM FOR THEM TO CONSIDER ADOPTING.

BUT AS PART OF THAT THERE, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE AN INVENTORY.

AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A STEP IN THAT PROCESS.

SHOULD THE COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCES THAT ALLOW FOR A MILLS ACT PROGRAM? OK.

YEAH, BECAUSE IT IS A IT IS PART OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, SO I WANTED TO JUST FIND OUT IF WE ALSO.

SO THAT WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT FOR THIS CYCLE? IF IT DOES GET APPROVED, EVENTUALLY? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE A PROGRAM TO ADD, I WAS TRYING TO RECALL WHAT THE PROGRAMS SPOKE TO IN REGARD TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS WILL REFLECT PRESERVING EXISTING HOUSING STOCK, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY GOT INTO A WHOLE LOT OF DETAIL.

AND SO IT COULD BE THAT IF WE END UP WITH A MILLS ACT PROGRAM, THAT THAT BECOMES A PROGRAM THAT HELPS US TO DOCUMENT HOW WE'RE PROVIDING OPTIONS TO PRESERVE HOUSING STOCK, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT THAT QUALIFY FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION REASONS.

GREAT.

AND COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, I WOULD ADD TO ONE OF THE PROGRAMS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF THE CULTURAL MAPPING THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT REALLY IS TARGETED ON THE BARRIO AND THE VILLAGE.

EXACTLY WHAT THAT WILL ENTAIL, I THINK, IS TO BE DETERMINED.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO LOOK AT WHAT MAKES THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO WHAT THEY ARE.

AND THAT, I WOULD THINK CERTAINLY WOULD INCLUDE HISTORICAL STRUCTURES.

SO THROUGH THAT, THERE IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE THAT TOPIC.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IN REGARD TO THIS ITEM? OK.

EXCELLENT.

GREAT PRESENTATION, MR. DONNELL.

WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY, VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR COMING AND VISITING US THIS EVENING.

ALL RIGHTY.

WITH THAT IN MIND.

WE'LL MOVE ON, SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

OH, OK.

EXCELLENT.

YEP.

LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

PRESS STAR NINE NOW TO RAISE YOUR HAND OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

OK, LET ME REMIND THE SPEAKERS THEN IN THAT REGARD, THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS AND ADDRESS IT TO THE COMMISSION.

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AND IF THEY WISH TO SPEAK AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ASK THE APPROPRIATE PERSON, RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

I SEE TWO PEOPLE IN AS ATTENDEES, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OK, THEN I GUESS WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OK.

AGAIN.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON, THEN TO REPORTS.

[PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS:]

COMMISSIONERS, ANY REPORTS THAT YOU WISH TO PROVIDE, COMMISSIONER MERZ? YEAH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEENES.

YEAH, I DO HAVE A REPORT.

LAST WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 13TH, I DID A RIDE ALONG WITH THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM, WHICH IS PART OF THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I MET SERGEANT ERIC [INAUDIBLE] AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND HAD THE PLEASURE OF TRAVELING WITH HIM AND SEEING SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS, OTHER OFFICERS ON THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM, SEEING THEM AND ALSO TO THEIR, WHO THEY WORK WITH IN INTERFAITH COMMUNITY SERVICES.

IN DOING THE OUTREACH, WE WENT UP TO THE QUARRY CREEK AREA.

WE'RE IN THE VILLAGE BARRIO AREA, PINE PARK AND ALSO TO END IT AT THE LOT [INAUDIBLE] NEAR THE SAFETY CENTER.

SO I THINK SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS, THERE'S AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE TO DO BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HOMELESSNESS IS A BIG ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, IN OUR CITY COUNTY NATIONWIDE, THAT COMES UP QUITE A BIT.

SO I IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT OUR CITY IS DOING IN THAT AREA AND SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS I HAVE JUST ONE I MEAN IN WORKING WITH SERGEANT [INAUDIBLE] JUST TO TREMENDOUS PATIENCE AND RESPECT HE HAS FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AS VALUABLE HUMAN BEINGS AND THE WAY IT INTERACTS WITH THEM.

ONE THING I NOTICED HE DID IS HE ALWAYS ASK, ARE YOU OPEN FOR HELP? ARE YOU? ARE YOU WILLING TO MEET WITH A CLINICIAN OR ACCEPT SOME OF THE SERVICES WE HAVE TO OFFER? I THINK THE AMAZING TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT WE ASK IF THERE WEREN'T THE VAST MAJORITY IS ACTUALLY NO, THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO, AND THE ONES WERE WANTED MORE TEMPORARY HELP, WHICH IN TEMPORARY HELP MEAN THINGS SUCH AS A GAS CARD, A HYGIENE KIT.

YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE FOR TEMPORARY IN TERMS OF ONES THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE LONG TERM LIFESTYLE CHANGES [INAUDIBLE] HOMELESS, SADLY WAS A VERY, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE ON THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO TO ME OBSERVE, AND IT'S INTERESTING THIS IS ACTUALLY I GOT TO OBSERVE INTERACTING DIRECTLY WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE AND TALKING AND LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATIONS, AND THEY'RE VERY FASCINATING.

I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS THAT SOME OF THE SOME OF THE OUTREACH GIVEN THAT SITUATION, SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE GIVEN BY VOLUNTEER GROUPS DON'T ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I THINK, ARE A CONTROVERSIAL IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO ATTRACT VERSUS CAUSING PEOPLE TO MOVE TOWARDS POSITIVE CHANGE.

AND THAT'S A CONCERN.

I THINK ALSO TO ONE OF GRACE NEEDS THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM IS WHAT WERE THEY CALL QUALITY OF LIFE ORDINANCES, WHICH ACTUALLY THE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING ON DOING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ALLOW FOR ENFORCEMENT DISRUPTIONS AND THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN PINE PARK.

THERE WAS ONE HOMELESS PERSON THAT, YOU KNOW, MADE WAS HANGING OUT BY THE SOCCER FIELDS TO THE POINT WHERE THE FAMILIES WERE THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED.

IT WAS MAKING A MESS.

WELL THE PAST ORDINANCES WHERE THAT GENTLEMAN IS STILL THERE, BUT THE PROBLEM TO CREATING OR NOT.

AND SO THEY WERE GIVING SOME TOOLS TO DEAL WITH THAT LAST THING THAT WE DID.

AND THEN ALSO TO [INAUDIBLE] ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECT TO OVER IN QUARRY CREEK AND INTO THE CANYON QUARRY CREEK WAS TAGGED TO BE REMOVED AND IT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE CREEK.

AND THERE'S DEFINITELY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT HAS ACTIVITY IN THAT AREAS CAN BE CLEANED UP BY ANOTHER.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH GROUP IT IS TAGGED THAT FOR CLEANUP LAST WEEK BECAUSE I ACTUALLY SERVE ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.

THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I GOT TO ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE FUNDING THIS YEAR WENT TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES, WHICH RUNS THE LA POSADA HOUSE, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF INTERFAITH, WHICH HAS A JOB PLACEMENT SERVICE.

AND IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE LA POSADA AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES DID WITH THEIR HOUSE, THEIR ENVIRONMENT.

IT WAS JUST THE MOST ORGANIZED, CLEANEST POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT.

I WAS JUST BLOWN AWAY.

WHAT WHAT AN AMAZING FACILITY IT WAS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HEAR TO SEE IT FIRSTHAND WAS AMAZING AND ACTUALLY GOT TO MEET ONE VERY, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO ACCEPTED SERVICES.

IT'S FUNNY YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF HOMELESS PEOPLE DOWN IN THE VILLAGE AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A BETTER LIFESTYLE.

I WOULD SAY NO, BUT I ACTUALLY MET ONE WHO DID, AND I SAW THE WORK THAT THEY WERE DOING.

SERGEANT [INAUDIBLE] WORK IN REACHING OUT TO HIM AND THE WORK THAT LA POSADA IS DOING.

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AND IT WAS AMAZING.

SO IT WAS GOOD.

SO I GUESS I WOULD SAY TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LITTLE RIDE ALONG WITH HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM, I WOULD DO IT.

IT'S JUST A GREAT EXPERIENCE AND IT'S VERY ENCOURAGING TO SEE THE PROACTIVE APPROACH THAT CARLSBAD IS TAKING TOWARDS HOMELESS.

AND AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THESE ARE BIG ISSUES BECAUSE THE HOMELESS, THIS DEFINITELY AFFECTS, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND I THINK THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, AS YOU KNOW, OVERALL, IT'S DOING A VERY GOOD, PROACTIVE JOB OF DEALING WITH THE ISSUE.

SO, YEAH, EXCELLENT.

COMMISSIONER MERZ, I APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU SAY THAT ABOUT THE RIDE-ALONG.

HAVING DONE IT RIGHT ALONG, BUT I HAVE VOLUNTEERED TIME AT LA POSADA.

OH, GREAT.

SO THEREFORE, IT'S A GREAT FACILITY AMONG A COUPLE OF OTHERS IN THE CITY, AND MAYBE YOU CAN EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT POSADA DOES.

I KNOW IT'S TEMPORARY HOUSING THAT WE PROVIDE TO, YOU KNOW, HOMELESS PEOPLE.

EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALLY FEEL THEY UNDERSTAND AND REALIZE THAT WE HAVE THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES AVAILABLE HERE.

OH YEAH, THANK YOU.

I'D LOVE TO.

SO AS I MENTIONED, I SERVED ON THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY RECEIVES MONEY THAT THEN THEY ARE COMMITTED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO WHERE THAT MONEY SHOULD GO.

ONE OF THE.

SO ACTUALLY, LA POSADA IS ACTUALLY RUN BY CATHOLIC CHARITIES, AND THEN CITY CARLSBAD HELPS SUPPORT THAT THROUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS.

IT'S AMAZING.

I MET THE DIRECTOR AND IN FACT, I KNOW WHERE WHERE WE ATTEND CHURCH.

ACTUALLY, ONE OF OUR PEOPLE WE KNOW IN THE MEN'S GROUPS ACTUALLY DEALT WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND WAS ACTUALLY A RESIDENT OF LA POSADA.

AND SO I GOT THE FOLLOW UP AND ASK HIM HOW IT WENT WITH HIM.

HE'S NO LONGER THERE, BUT IT IS AN EXTREMELY CLEAN, ORGANIZED, POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT.

I THINK WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IN MEETING THE DIRECTOR AND TALKING WITH THEM, THIS IS A CONCERN AND CARE THEY HAVE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

THERE'S TWO SIDES OF LA POSADA ON THE RIGHT IS HOUSING FOR FARM WORKERS.

YOU KNOW, AGRICULTURAL FARM WORKERS ON THE LEFT SIDE ARE HOMELESS PEOPLE, AND IT'S INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO THE DIRECTOR, ABRAHAM MENTIONED.

WHEN HOMELESS PEOPLE COME IN AND A LOT OF THEM, AS I MENTIONED, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ACTUALLY TURNED DOWN THE OPTION TO HAVE A BED AT LA POSADA WHICH IS AMAZING TO ME.

BUT THE ONES WHO DO COME IN, HE SAID, LOOK, COME IN AND THEIR LIFE IS SO DIFFICULT ON THE STREET.

THEY'LL SPEND THE FIRST TWO WEEKS JUST SLEEPING, JUST GAINING, YOU KNOW, ENERGY BACK AND THEN AS THEY START TO COME TO LIFE AGAIN AND DO IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST REALLY, YOU KNOW, SURPRISED, PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE JUST THE PEACE, THE ORDER OF THE CLEANLINESS, JUST THE ENVIRONMENT, THE PEOPLE THERE AT LA POSADA.

AND SO ESPECIALLY BEING ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, I JUST COULDN'T SAY, I MEAN, JUST I COULDN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT LA POSADA AND HOW WELL THEY RUN THE SAD PART ABOUT IT IN TALKING TO SERGEANT, [INAUDIBLE] WAS THAT IF YOU GO DOWN TO TO THE VILLAGE WHERE WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, [INAUDIBLE] HOMELESS POPULATION GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THERE ALONG WITH SAY NO, THEY JUST THEY JUST DON'T DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, WHICH IS KIND OF SAD.

BUT THE ONES WHO DO LIKE THE ONE GENTLEMAN THAT WE GOT, YOU KNOW, HE HAD, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS DENTAL ISSUES.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET FIXED AND SOLVED AND WORKING WITH THEM TO GET HIM BACK ON HIS FEET AGAIN.

BUT THE ONES WHO WILL TAKE IT, THOUGH, I THINK LA POSADA DOES A TREMENDOUS WORK.

IT WAS A LONG ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

IT'S A LITTLE LONG WINDED THERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS REPORTS? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

I THINK JUST TO ADD TO COMMISSIONER MERZ COMMENTS ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES, LA POSADA, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S ONLY TWO IN THE COUNTY.

CARLSBAD IS ONE THAT DO WHAT LA POSADA DOES.

AND SO, SO THE RESOURCES ARE VERY LIMITED FOR HAVING THIS TYPE OF HELP IN GENERAL.

SO WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE SUCH AN AMAZING FACILITY AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS THAT AMAZING FACILITY.

MY REPORT IS ONLY THAT THE NEXT HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEETING SHOULD BE ON NOVEMBER 8TH.

SO THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, COMMISSIONER LUNA.

MR. MERZ, DO YOU HAVE A COLLEAGUE HERE? WE SUPPORT LA POSADA AND WE HAVE ALSO DONATED.

NUMEROUS CLOTHING ITEMS NEW DURING COVID IS WHAT THEY PREFER, PREFER.

SO IF SOME OF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN TO COSTCO AND THEY'RE IN DIRE NEED OF MEN'S UNDERWEAR, DIFFERENT SIZES, DIFFERENT TYPES, YOU CAN GO UP THERE BUT DON'T THINK YOU CAN GO UP THERE WITH A BUNCH OF CLOTHES YOU JUST WANT TO GET RID OF AND DONATE.

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I THINK THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL PLACE, AND I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

I REALLY RESPECT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH THOSE FOLKS.

I COULDN'T DO IT.

I DON'T HAVE THE CONSTITUTION OR THE DEMEANOR OR THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THESE FOLKS GOT THERE, AND I ADMIRE THEM GREATLY.

GREAT COMMENTS, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LUNA.

YEAH, IT IS AMAZING, AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MERZ IF ANYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOLUNTEER SOME TIME, WHICH IS WHAT I DID, IT'S IT IS REMARKABLE.

ANYTHING FURTHER ON REPORTS BY COMMISSIONERS.

OK, MR. NEU ANY ANY REPORT TO US.

[CITY PLANNER REPORT:]

YES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SO I KNOW WE COVERED A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL DID LAST NIGHT, BUT A FEW THAT WE HAVEN'T COVERED.

ONE BEING THE DECISION ABOUT HOLDING MEETINGS VIRTUALLY.

SO THE COUNCIL DID DECIDE THAT THROUGH THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE IN A VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE ADVANCE WARNING, WE WOULD MEET IN THE SAME FORMAT FOR OUR, I THINK IT'S NOVEMBER 3RD MEETING.

AND THEN LET'S SEE.

I THINK THE I GUESS THE OTHER THING THAT WAS APPROVED LAST NIGHT THAT WE HAVEN'T COVERED WOULD BE THE INNS AT BUENA VISTA CREEK PROJECT.

THE COUNCIL DID TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PERMITS AND THE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS FOR THE PARTS OF THE PROPERTY IN CARLSBAD, SO THAT WILL PROCEED.

ITS NEXT STEP WILL BE TO GO TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION FOR ACTION ON THE COASTAL PLAN, LAND USE CHANGES AND THEN A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

AND THEN I KNOW WE HAVE MENTIONED IT IN THE BRIEFINGS, BUT JUST TO BRING IT UP AGAIN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING, WE DID PROVIDE YOU WITH THE PERMIT AND SERVICE DELIVERY GUIDE FOR YOUR REVIEW.

AND WE'RE HOPEFUL TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THAT ON NOVEMBER 3RD.

SO IF YOU DO HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT AND HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU COULD BRING IT TO THAT MEETING.

IF FOR SOME REASON SCHEDULING DOESN'T WORK OUT, WE'LL LOOK AT A DIFFERENT DATE.

BUT I THINK THAT COVERS ALL THE ITEMS I NEEDED TO TO COVER UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER LUNA.

I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION, SOME SOME FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED ME, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE CELL TOWER, THEY'RE PUBLIC NOTICE SIGN IS STILL UP THE YELLOW SIGN AND AS I DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AREA OF CANNON AND EXCUSE ME JUST NOT THERE STUFF THAT WE'VE APPROVED FOUR YEARS AGO, AND IT'S LIKE THEY'RE STILL UP THERE.

SO SHOULD I DIRECT THEM TO HAVE CODE? WHO DO THEY CONTACT TO HAVE THEM REMOVED? YEAH.

WELL, IT COULD BE CODE.

I MEAN, THE THE YOU KNOW, THE INTENT IS FOR THOSE SIGNS TO ONLY BE UP UNTIL THE HEARINGS ARE CONCLUDED.

SO ONCE THEY'RE FINISHED, EVEN WHEN THE PROJECT IS NOT BUILT, THEY COULD BE REMOVED.

I KNOW IN MANY CASES THE APPLICANTS LEAVE IT UP DURING CONSTRUCTION SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

THAT PARTICULAR ONE THAT YOU MENTIONED, I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE TIMES MYSELF AND I KEEP MEANING TO STOP AND PICK IT UP SO WELL.

I TRIED TO PICK IT UP.

OK, I'LL BE HONEST.

THAT THING IS REALLY IN THERE AND I I NEED SOME YOUNG CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO TO YANK IT.

THEY IT'S LIKE ON A REBAR AND IT'S POUNDED IN AND THE SIGN IS NOT.

IT'S LIKE CORRUGATED PLASTIC AND IT DOESN'T FOLD.

AND I'M LIKE, OH, I'M ON CAMERA, PROBABLY FROM THE STREET SIGN HERE I AM DESTROYING PUBLIC PROPERTY, BUT THAT'S NOT THE AND I TOLD THE NEIGHBORS I GO, I DON'T KNOW.

I'LL SEE IF I CAN TAKE IT OUT.

BUT THERE'S OTHER STILL LIKE, ESPECIALLY ON SINGLE FAMILY THAT I'VE SEEN THAT WE'VE APPROVED AND CONSTRUCTION'S DONE.

AND SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHO TO DIRECT THE RESIDENTS TO AND SAY WHO TO CALL.

YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE CODE.

I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO REMIND APPLICANTS AS THEY'RE FILING PROJECTS IF THE SIGN STILL UP TO REMOVE IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED TO KEEP IT.

MAYBE THEY THINK THEY'RE PROVIDING USEFUL INFORMATION.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK AS A LAST RESORT, YOU COULD DEFINITELY DIRECT THEM TO CODE AND TAKE CARE OF IT.

SO [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW.

YOU CAN TRY.

MAYBE YOU HAVE BETTER LUCK THAN I DO.

MAYBE PETER COULD GO THERE.

I'LL BRING A SHOVEL BY.

UNLIKE CAMPAIGN SIGNS, YOU DON'T WANT TO TOUCH THOSE.

BUT BUT THESE YOU COULD TOUCH.

USEFUL SOME GUYS.

MAYBE ME AND KEVIN, WE CAN HEAD DOWN THERE, YOUNG WHIPPERSNAPPER KEVIN.

I CAN MR. SABELLICO AND I CAN GO OUT THERE AND.

THERE YOU GO.

ALL RIGHTY.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE A REQUEST OR COMMENT TO MR. NEU.

ALL RIGHTY.

OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, MR.

[CITY ATTORNEY REPORT:]

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KEMP, ANY REPORTS.

YOU'RE MUTED.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THE CLICKER WOULDN'T WORK.

MR. NEU SHARED WITH ME THIS MORNING THAT THE INSTITUTE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS AN OFFSHOOT OF LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES, IS DOING A WEBINAR ON NEW HOUSING LAWS, PROGRAMS AND FUNDING THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 4 AT 2:00 P.M.

IT'S A FREE WEBINAR.

IF YOU WANT TO GET MORE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THE NEW HOUSING LAWS ARE, YOU COULD ATTEND THAT AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, CONTACT ME AND I CAN SEND YOU A LINK.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

OUR ILLUSTRIOUS ATTORNEY, MR. KEMP.

ANYTHING FURTHER? OK.

WITH THAT, WE STAND ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.