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GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE DECEMBER 1ST, 2021 MEETING OF THE CARLSBAD PLANNING
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COMMISSION. FOR THE RECORD, MS. FLORES, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLL? YES. I HAVE A COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY AND LUNA BOTH ABSENT COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.PRESENT. COMMISSIONER MERZ HERE.
COMMISSIONER SABELLICO PRESENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 20TH, 2021 OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS REQUESTS BY COMMISSIONERS? OK, SEEING NONE.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 20TH MEETING.
SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MERZ.
ALL RIGHTY. GOOD AND MELISSA, EXCUSE ME, MRS. FLORES.
THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FIVE WITH TWO ABSENT.
OK, NEXT TIME IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2021 MEETING.
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ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS BY ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE ONE.IN ITEM, QUESTIONS OF STAFF, IT SAYS CHAIR MEENES ASKED HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ARE ELIGIBLE FOR NOMINATIONS AS PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE MEMBERS IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ITEM NUMBER TWO, JUST FOR CLARITY AND/OR WONDERING WHY, I HAD ASKED THAT QUESTION.
I'M SUGGESTING THAT THE POSSIBILITY OF GOING AHEAD AND ADDING TO THAT AFTER THE WORD ALTERNATIVE MEMBERS, GIVEN THAT TWO MEMBERS FIRST TERM EXPIRES IN JANUARY 2022 AND THAT TWO OTHERS EXPIRE IN 2023.
I MOVE THAT THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2021 MEETING, WITH THE ADDITIONS THAT I HAD SUGGESTED, I MAKE THE MOTION.
I HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER STINE, YES.
THE MOTION PASSES THE FOUR ONE ABSTAINED AND TWO ABSENT.
THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY VOTED YES ON THE PREVIOUS ONE ON THE OCTOBER 20TH.
I THINK I WAS ABSENT FOR THAT ONE, SO MAYBE IT SHOULD BE MOVED TO ABSTAIN FOR ME.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
OK, THANK YOU. OK, PER THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA EXECUTIVE ORDER N2920 AND IN THE INTEREST
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OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, WE'RE TEMPORARILY TAKING ACTION TO PREVENT THE MITIGATION AND EFFECTS OF COVID 19 PANDEMIC BY HOLDING PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS ONLINE ONLY.PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CAN BE WATCHED VIA LIVESTREAM OR REPLAYED ON THE WEBSITE.
IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY, YOU MAY VISIT THE CITY'S WEBSITE BY [INAUDIBLE] ON THE PAGE OF INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO COMMENT WHEN EMAILED COMMENTS.
PLEASE SEND TO THE PLANNING DIVISION AT THE CITY AND IDENTIFY THE SUBJECT LINE ITEM NUMBER AND WHICH COMMENT YOU WISH TO RELATE.
ALL COMMENTS RECEIVED WILL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
WRITTEN COMMENTS WILL NOT BE READ OUT LOUD.
THESE PROCEDURES SHALL REMAIN IN PLACE DURING THE PERIOD IN WHICH THE STATE OR LOCAL HEALTH OFFICIALS IMPOSED OR RECOMMENDED SOCIAL DISTANCING MEASURES.
THE COMMISSION SETS ASIDE THIS TIME UP TO 15 MINUTES TO ACCEPT COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THAT IS WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER, THE JURISDICTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
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A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IS PROVIDED FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.COMMENTATORS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EACH UNLESS THE CHAIR CHANGES THAT TIME CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.
NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON ITEMS PRESENTED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO COMMENT IS LISTED ON THE AGENDA AND ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S WEBSITE. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA? MS. FLORES. YES, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT TO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY.
IF YOU'RE USING THE MEETING LINK TO LOG IN OR IF YOU'RE JOINING US BY PHONE, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW TO RAISE YOUR HAND.
WHEN I CALL IN YOUR NAME OR LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
YOU'LL BE MUTED ONCE YOUR THREE MINUTES HAVE CONCLUDED.
ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
GIVE THEM A COUPLE OF SECONDS AND I DON'T SEE ANY SPEAKERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU, MISS FLORES.
PROCEDURES FOR THIS EVENING'S COMMISSION MEETING.
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WILL IT BE AS FOLLOWS? THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE OPENED.STAFF WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF.
THE APPLICANTS WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AND RESPOND TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. THEY WILL HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR THEIR PRESENTATION, PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL THEN BE OPENED. A TIME LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES IS ALLOTTED FOR EACH COMMENT RECEIVED.
AFTER ALL THOSE WANTING TO SPEAK HAVE DONE SO, THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL BE CLOSED. APPLICANT AND STAFF WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO ISSUES OR QUESTIONS RAISED. THE COMMISSIONERS WILL THEN DISCUSS THE ITEM AND THEN VOTE ON IT.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED.
CERTAIN PLANNING COMMISSION DECISIONS ARE FINAL, BUT MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
YOU CAN FIND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES ON THE BACK OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE.
ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONERS? I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.
I'VE BEEN IN THIS OFFICE BUILDING SEVERAL TIMES AND I'VE CERTAINLY BEEN TO IN-N-OUT MANY TIMES. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.
COMMISSIONER MERZ, I VISITED THE SITE.
COMMISSIONER STINE, I ALSO VISITED WALKED AROUND THE SITE.
COMMISSIONER SABELLICO, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, I'VE BEEN BY IT MANY TIMES.
OK. I ALSO AM FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE AS WELL.
OK. MR. NEU WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM? YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
SO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM TODAY IS A PROJECT TITLED CHICK-FIL-A.
IT'S A SERIES OF LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS, AS WELL AS SOME QUASI-JUDICIAL DISCRETIONARY ACTIONS HERE TO MAKE THE STAFF PRESENTATION IS ASSOCIATE PLANNER ESTEBAN DANNA.
HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF YOU BEAR WITH ME JUST A MINUTE, I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN.
CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.
SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A LAND USE CHANGE AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW CHICK-FIL-A RESTAURANT. SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG AVENIDA ENCINAS AND ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE OF INTERSTATE FIVE, JUST NORTH OF PALMA AIRPORT ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A TEN THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING. THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY A MIXTURE OF RESTAURANT OFFICE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES. THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF THE ADOPTION OF A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, A GENERAL PLAN, ZONING MAP AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT AND AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND THIS IS TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING AND TO CONSTRUCT A NEW THREE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT. AN AMENDMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE MAP IS REQUESTED TO CHANGE THE PROJECT SITE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM PLANNED INDUSTRIAL TO VISITOR COMMERCIAL.
THE LAND USE AMENDMENT PROVIDES CONSISTENCY WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS OF THE
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REMAINING PROPERTIES IN THE COMMERCIAL CENTER.AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP IS ALSO REQUESTED TO CHANGE THE PROJECT SITE'S ZONING DESIGNATION FROM PLANNED INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL TOURIST.
THE ZONING MAP CHANGE WILL ALLOW FOR RESTAURANT USES BY RIGHT WITHOUT THE NEED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND PROVIDE CONSISTENCY WITH LAND USE DESIGNATIONS OF THE REMAINING PROPERTIES IN THE COMMERCIAL CENTER.
THE AMENDMENT TO THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, LAND USE AND ZONING MAPS IS REQUESTED TO CHANGE THE PROJECT SITE'S LAND USE DESIGNATIONS FROM PLANNED INDUSTRIAL TO VISITOR COMMERCIAL. THESE CHANGES ARE REQUIRED SO THAT LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAMS, LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS.
THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT WILL BE LOCATED TOWARDS THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, WITH THE PARKING AND CIRCULATION RUNNING ADJACENT TO AVENIDA ENICINAS.
TWO DRIVEWAYS WILL SERVE THE PROPERTY ALONG AVENIDA ENCINAS TOWARDS THE NORTH AND SOUTH AND THE PROPERTY.
THIS RENDERING SHOWS THE PROPOSED RESTAURANTS SOUTH AND WEST ELEVATIONS, WITH AVENIDA ENCINAS RUNNING ALONG THE LEFT SIDE OF THE IMAGE.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES ORNAMENTAL LANDSCAPING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE, AS WELL AS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT AND THIS RENDERING SHOWS THE PROPOSED RESTAURANTS NORTH AND WEST ELEVATIONS LOOKING EAST FROM AVENIDA ENCINAS TOWARDS THE FREEWAY.
THE PROJECT PROPOSES ATTRACTIVE ARCHITECTURAL BUILDING ELEMENTS SUCH AS STONE VENEER, PRECAST CONCRETE, DARK BRONZE, ALUMINUM SHADE, AWNINGS AND TRELLISES.
THE DESIGN OF THE RESTAURANT IS ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH THE DESIGN OF THE ADJACENT IN-N-OUT RESTAURANT TO THE SOUTH.
THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH ALL APPLICABLE CODES, STANDARDS AND POLICIES, INCLUDING THE VISITOR COMMERCIAL GENERAL PLAN LAND-USE DESIGNATION, THE COMMERCIAL TOURIST ZONING DISTRICT, THE QUALIFIED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY ZONE AND COMMERCIAL VISITOR SERVING OVERLAY ZONE, THE PARKING ORDINANCE, THE NONRESIDENTIAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, THE MINOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, THE AIRPORT LAND USE COMPATIBILITY PLAN AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
A STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER SEVEN FOUR THREE THREE, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION WITH THE MITIGATION, MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM.
ADOPT RESOLUTION SEVENTY FOUR POINT THIRTY FOUR RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT. ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT AND FINALLY, ADOPT RESOLUTION 7435 RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RESTAURANT.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I APPRECIATE IT. COMMISSIONERS, ANY BRIEF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? COMMISSIONER STINE? YES, MR. DANNA HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER RESTAURANTS? I BELIEVE THERE ARE FIVE ALONG THAT AREA OR ANY OF THE FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF THOSE RESTAURANTS OR FROM PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE VARIOUS INDUSTRIAL PARK BUSINESSES.
I DON'T RECALL RECEIVING ANY COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.
THERE WAS THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED AND WERE ALL IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, BUT I DON'T RECALL ANY SPECIFIC NEIGHBORS WRITING IN.
OK, SO YOU DON'T RECALL, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A REPRESENTATIVE OF IN-N-OUT BURGER HAS WEIGHED IN ON THIS PROJECT.
THEY'RE MOSTLY PRIVATE CITIZENS SHOWING SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
THANKS, I NOTICED ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ABOUT THE DRIVE-THRU AND AT SOME POINT COULD THAT BE LIFTED? AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, I THINK [INAUDIBLE] IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE THE WAY THE SITE IS
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ORIENTED THAT THEY COULD HAVE A DRIVE-THRU AT THIS POINT OR HAVE THEY BEEN TALKED ABOUT EVER BEING IF THAT WAS ALLOWED IN THE FUTURE BEING POSSIBLE OR NOT? IT LOOKS PRETTY TIGHT BACK TOWARDS THE FREEWAY [INAUDIBLE].YES, AS IT IS DESIGNED TODAY, I'M NOT SURE HOW POSSIBLE IT IS TO HAVE A DRIVE-THRU RETROFITTED INTO THE RESTAURANT.
IN THE EVENT THAT SOMEDAY THE CITY THIS LIFTS THAT MORATORIUM ON DRIVE-THRUS, THEN THE OPERATOR WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND PROPOSE THAT.
BUT AT THIS POINT, THEY HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THEY ARE NOT PLANNING TO DO A DRIVE-THRU IN THE NEAR FUTURE. YEAH.
IT'S PRETTY TIGHT BACK THERE. IT WAS SO TIGHT AGAINST THE BACK THERE.
IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS DOUBTFUL.
ANY OTHER STAFF QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? OK. EXCELLENT.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
YES, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS PHIL RATH, AND I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE CARLOS ARIAS, WHO IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CHICK-FIL-A.
CARLOS MYSELF AND ROB LOMBARDI WILL BE DOING A PRESENTATION AND WE'LL TAKE NO MORE THAN 10 MINUTES. THANK YOU, SIR.
OK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME.
WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AND AS PHIL MENTIONED, MY NAME IS CARLOS ARIAS.
I'M THE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR CHICK-FIL-A AND SO I HELPED DEVELOP THE NEW STORES, SPECIFICALLY THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA MARKETS AND BEFORE WE INTRODUCE THE PROJECT, I DO WANT TO JUST DO A QUICK THANK YOU, A BIG THANK YOU, REALLY, TO CITY STAFF FOR ALL OF THE TIME AND HELP AND ENERGY GETTING TO THE SKIN AT THIS POINT, REALLY, BUT ALSO FOR THE WORK INVOLVED AND SO EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PROJECT AND QUICK OVERVIEW IN TERMS OF SOME BACKGROUND TO CHICK-FIL-A.
IN ADDITION TO BEING A RESTAURANT BUSINESS, WE'RE ALSO REALLY KNOWN FOR BEING AN INVESTED MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
OUR OPERATORS WHO ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE STORES, MANAGING THE STORES AND ENSURING THE SUCCESS.
THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THEY POUR INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THE TEAM MEMBERS AND BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND SO THEY DO A LOT OF WORK WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, PARTNERING WITH SCHOOLS OR EDUCATION PROGRAMS FOR THE YOUTH AND OFTENTIMES WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS FOR SOME OF THE TEAM MEMBERS THAT END UP WORKING.
A LOT OF THE TEAM MEMBERS ARE HIGH SCHOOL YOUTH AND SO JUST OPENS UP A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM AND SO A LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT THAT I BELIEVE REALLY MAKES US UNIQUE TO OTHERS IN THE INDUSTRY.
OUR OPERATORS, IT'S A REALLY COMPETITIVE VETTING PROCESS, THOUSANDS OF APPLICANTS REALLY AND SO THEY ARE EXPECTED TO LIVE IN THE AREA.
IF THEY'RE NOT FROM THE AREA, THEY THEY WILL CERTAINLY BE A PART OF THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. THEY'RE HIGHLY INVOLVED IN RUNNING THE STORE.
THEY RUN IT LIKE THEIR OWN BUSINESS BECAUSE IT IS AND SO ULTIMATELY, THEY REFLECT THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY LIVE IN BECAUSE THEY'RE SO INVESTED AND SO FOR THIS, YOU CAN SEE HERE FOR THE CITY, THAT MEANS JOB CREATION.
IN THIS PARTICULAR STORE, WE'RE LOOKING OUR EXPECTATION IS ABOUT 100 HUNDRED PLUS NEW JOBS AND OF COURSE, THE INCREASED REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND THEN ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY, JUST THE LIVELIHOODS AND THE GIVING BACK.
SO THIS POTENTIAL, THIS PARTICULAR STORE IS ESPECIALLY SPECIAL FOR ME BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE AREA, I ACTUALLY LIVE IN CARLSBAD AND SO EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE, ESPECIALLY BEING A PART OF THAT PROJECT.
BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONSIDERING OUR PROJECT AND AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE WE HAVE PHIL R.
WITH US HERE TODAY WHO HAS BEEN A PART OF THE PROCESS REALLY FROM THE BEGINNING, AND SO I'LL BE TURNING IT OVER TO HIM FOR AN OVERVIEW IN THE PROJECT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, CARLOS, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. WE WILL ATTEMPT TO BE BRIEF AND NOT BE REDUNDANT TO THE STAFF'S PRESENTATION, THEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF THE APPLICATION, BUT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE ARE DOING THIS FOR REGIONAL CONTEXT PURPOSES.
WE CURRENTLY IN THE REGION HAVE 14 STORES, ALL VERY POPULAR, AND IN THIS SUB-REGIONAL
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AREA WE HAVE EXISTING LOCATIONS IN OCEANSIDE, SAN MARCOS AND ENCINITAS, AND WE JOKE THAT WE HAVE CARLSBAD SURROUNDED.OUR CUSTOMER DATA PROVES OUT THAT A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE CUSTOMERS AT THESE THREE STORES HAVE CARLSBAD ADDRESSES, AND IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO MUCH THOUGHT TO REALIZE THAT'S CREATING AN AWFUL LOT OF DRIVING AND INCONVENIENCE FOR MEMBERS OF YOUR CITY TO GET TO THE FOOD THAT THEY DESIRE. WE'VE GONE OVER THE PROJECT SITE, THE STAFF DID A GOOD JOB, EVERYONE DISCLOSED THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW YOU WOULDN'T BE.
WE WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR VARIANCES OR DEVIATIONS.
REALLY, THE PURPOSE OF THIS VERY LARGE PACKAGE OF ENTITLEMENT DOCUMENTS IS TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. IT WAS EARLY ON REALIZED THAT THE RIGHT WAY TO APPROACH THIS SITE WAS TO CLEAN UP THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION, THE ZONING, EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO THIS KIND OF FROM THE GROUND UP TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT AND PROPER AND REALLY DO IT THE RIGHT WAY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF WORKAROUND.
IT IS REALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDINGS AND MAKING IT CONSISTENT WITH THE EAST SIDE OF AVENIDA ENCINAS AND THAT ENTIRE CENTER.
IT'S REALLY CONVENIENT TO LOCAL BUSINESSES.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THE BUSINESS PARK ON THE WEST SIDE OF AVENIDA ENCINAS THAT THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT ANOTHER CONVENIENT LUNCH OPTION AND AS I MENTIONED, A LOT OF COMMUNITY REQUESTS, WE THINK IT'LL FIT IN WELL.
ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED ABOUT COMMENTS FROM OTHER RESTAURANTS.
WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A CONSENT FROM IN-N-OUT IN WRITING.
WE DO WORK WITH THEM REGULARLY, SO WE DO REACH OUT AND BECAUSE WE SHARE BOUNDARY WITH THEM THERE. WE DO HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM AND THEY HAVE CONSENTED TO THIS.
RESTAURANT FEATURES THAT I'D LIKE TO MENTION, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF INDOOR, BUT ALSO A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF OUTDOOR DINING.
CHICK-FIL-A IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION RUN OUT OF GEORGIA AND WHAT THEY'VE DISCOVERED, THANKFULLY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, IS YOU CAN DO OUTDOOR DINING, AND IT WORKS JUST FINE BECAUSE OUR WEATHER ALLOWS IT.
SO WE ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND MADE SOME REVISIONS PARTWAY THROUGH THE PROCESS TO ENHANCE THE NUMBER OF OUTDOOR SEATS.
WE'RE ALSO PROUD TO BE DOING THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING THAT WE ARE.
I CERTAINLY AM WITH THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING THAT'S GOING INTO THE SITE AND THEN FINALLY, AN ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDING WITH A PHOTOVOLTAIC AND FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, WHICH ALSO BE ENHANCEMENTS.
THIS IS A QUICK BEFORE AFTER ZOOM, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY AND WHAT YOU WILL HAVE IN THE FUTURE.
SAME HERE FROM COMING DOWN THE FIVE.
THIS IS HOW I EXPERIENCE CARLSBAD.
WE TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY THAT THIS IS A REALLY VISUALLY PROMINENT LOCATION.
ANYONE WHO DRIVES THROUGH YOUR CITY ON THE FIVE SEES THIS, AND IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US TO MAKE IT LOOK GOOD AND YOUR STAFF DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT THIS IS NOT SOME OBSCURE CORNER IN THE BACK OF TOWN.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE AND DO THE LANDSCAPING AND PROPER ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENTS. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
WE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND EVERYWHERE THAT WE GO, THAT WE MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY IS INFORMED.
YOU HAVE A POLICY EIGHTY FOUR WHICH DICTATES WHAT PROJECTS MUST DO IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH OUTREACH REQUIREMENTS, AND WE'RE PROUD TO SAY THAT WE REALLY EXCEEDED THAT PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. WE DID TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS, A DEDICATED PROJECT WEBSITE.
A LOT OF THIS WAS NECESSITATED BY COVID COMING INTO EXISTENCE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROCESSING. WE USUALLY DO A LOT OF IN-PERSON OUTREACH.
WE WERE ABLE TO DO ONE AND THEN THE WORLD CHANGED.
SO WE SWITCHED TO AN ONLINE FORMAT OF HAVING A DEDICATED PROJECT WEBSITE PROJECT EMAIL ADDRESS, WHICH WAS STAFFED BY ALL OF US WHERE PEOPLE COULD ASK THEIR QUESTIONS AND GET THEM ANSWERED. WE DID THREE SEPARATE SOCIAL MEDIA AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS TARGETING CARLSBAD CITIZENS, SO THEY WERE MADE AWARE OF IT VIA THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS PRESENTATIONS TO THE CARLSBAD CHAMBER GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT AND THEN ONE ON ONE MEETINGS WITH SURROUNDING BUSINESSES NEARBY THE LOCATION.
IN ADDITION TO ALL THE REQUIRED OUTREACH REPORT THAT WE HAD TO SUBMIT, WE ALSO SUBMITTED AN ADDENDUM TO DOCUMENT THE EXTRA WORK THAT WE DID AND OUTLINE OUR EFFORTS PROPERLY.
HERE'S A COUPLE SNAPSHOTS OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED SOME NUMBERS FOR YOU.
SINCE WE DID THIS DIGITALLY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE SOME OF THE RESULTS NUMERICALLY.
WE HAD ABOUT 3000 UNIQUE VISITS TO THE WEBSITE, SO THAT'S ONE PERSON, ONE VISIT AND 500 POSITIVE REACTIONS ON FACEBOOK.
THERE WERE SOME NEGATIVE, BUT YOU CAN SEE BY THE RATIO THAT IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY
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POSITIVE. WE WERE REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THIS, AND OVER 324 SUPPORTIVE COMMENTS WERE SUBMITTED TO THOSE ONLINE SUBMITTERS.ANY TIME WE TALK ABOUT ANY PROJECT, BUT SPECIFICALLY A CHICK-FIL-A CIRCULATION IS A MAJOR TOPIC, AND WE KNOW THAT THE MAIN THING TO KNOW ABOUT THIS IS IT DOES NOT INCLUDE A DRIVE THRU THAT REALLY RELIEVES A LOT OF THE COMMON CIRCULATION CHALLENGES WITH CHICK-FIL-A'S.
WITHOUT THE DRIVE THRU, IT'S REALLY JUST A STANDALONE RESTAURANT WHERE PEOPLE PARK AND COME IN AND EAT AND THEN LEAVE.
BUT WE ARE MAKING SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS.
WE RECOGNIZE IT'S A CHALLENGED AREA.
THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THIS INTERSECTION WILL MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE FOR EVERYONE USING THIS AREA IN PARTICULAR.
THIS WILL ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I'M ABLE-BODIED AND I WOULD NOT RUN ACROSS THAT ROAD AS IT IS TODAY. BUT PEOPLE DO IT EVERY DAY AND IT'S VERY ALARMING.
THIS WILL GIVE THEM A SAFE, CONTROLLED INTERSECTION IN ORDER TO DO THAT FROM.
WE ACTUALLY HEARD THIS FROM SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET, TOO, THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
IN ADDITION, WE RECOGNIZE QUEUING IS AN ISSUE.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO LANES TOTAL FOR THE INWARD AND OUTWARD MOVEMENTS ON THAT DRIVEWAY, IT WILL NOW HAVE THREE INSTEAD OF TWO.
SO WE'LL HAVE A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE FOR EXITING AND THEN A STRAIGHT OR LEFT TURN FOR EXITING AS WELL.
IN ADDITION, WHEN THAT WHEN THAT INTERSECTION IS NOT AN OPTION FOR MOTORISTS, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN OR OUT FROM THIS NORTHERLY DRIVEWAY AS WELL, WHICH WILL RELIEVE PRESSURE WHEN THE OTHER RESTAURANTS ARE VERY BUSY.
PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO AND FROM THE CHICK-FIL-A RESTAURANT WITHOUT CONTRIBUTING TO THE CONGESTION AT THAT INTERSECTION.
WE'RE ALSO PLEASED WITH SOME REDESIGN WORK THAT WE DID TO ADD THE OUTDOOR DINING.
WE ALSO WENT BACK AND REVISITED PARKING AND WE WERE ABLE TO PARK 41 SPACES.
WE'RE REQUIRED TO PARK THIRTY SEVEN, SO WE'RE MILDLY OVER PARKED.
WE ALSO AGREED TO ADDITIONAL TDM MEASURES AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY, BUT SPECIFICALLY WE DO HAVE BIKE STORAGE LOCKERS FOR EMPLOYEES WHO WILL BE ENCOURAGED TO BIKE TO WORK AND GIVE THEM A GOOD PLACE TO STORE.
IN SUMMARY, OUR PROJECT BENEFITS ARE THAT WITH ALL OF THE CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE EXISTING LEVEL OF SERVICE SIGNIFICANTLY FOR EVERY MORNING, AFTERNOON AND EVENING OPERATION PERIOD.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU NORMALLY SEE.
CEQA REQUIRES YOU TO LEAVE IT NO WORSE THAN YOU FOUND IT.
BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO ENHANCE THE AREA BROADLY, AND WE'RE PROUD OF THAT.
WE'LL ALSO BE LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY TO ENHANCE MOBILE PICKUP.
ANOTHER COVID FACTOR THAT WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED IS MOBILE DELIVERY, AND HOW WE GET FOOD FROM RESTAURANTS HAS CHANGED.
CHICK-FIL-A IS ROLLING OUT A LOT OF TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO HELP MAKE THAT SYSTEM WORK BETTER AND IT'S REALLY FOCUSED AROUND MAKING CUSTOMERS HAVE A CONVENIENT EXPERIENCE THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
WE'RE ADDING THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY AND EV CHARGING STATIONS, AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE INVESTED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, AS CARLOS MENTIONED.
WE DON'T TREAT THIS AS JUST A CORPORATE STORE OR A FRANCHISE THAT'S OWNED BY SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN ANOTHER STATE.
THIS IS REALLY RUN LIKE A SMALL BUSINESS WITH A FAMILY AND AN OWNER OPERATOR WHO BECOMES A PART OF CARLSBAD, AND WE'RE PROUD OF THE WAY WE DO THAT WORK.
WITH THAT, WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DO HAVE OUR TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS HERE FOR THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC OR CEQA OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. R. I KNOW I MYSELF WHENEVER I GO TO IN-N-OUT BURGER, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL FOR PEDESTRIANS, AS WELL AS CONTROLLING TRAFFIC IN-N-OUT OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER IS GOING TO BE A BIG PLUS.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, I KNOW THERE'S CURRENTLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM PALOMAR ROAD AND MAKING A RIGHT HAND TURN INTO THAT EXISTING DRIVEWAY.
IT'S SOMETIMES IF IT'S A BUSY TIME OF THE DAY, IT BACKS UP AT THAT, AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION AND SEEING THAT DRIVEWAY THAT YOU'RE PLACING TO THE NORTH OF YOUR SITE AT THE NORTH END IS GOING TO BE A REAL PLUS AND I THINK THAT WILL, WITH THE COMBINATION OF TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL PROBABLY ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE CURRENT SITUATION THAT WE HAVE TODAY WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN, YES, THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICANT WHO WILL BE THE OWNER OPERATOR OF THIS LOCATION.
SO THAT OWNER OPERATOR HAS NOT BEEN SELECTED AT THIS TIME, THAT IS A SELECTION THAT
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OCCURS AS THE CONSTRUCTION PROCEEDS.BUT CARLOS, I'LL DEFER TO YOU ON ANY MORE DETAILS YOU WANT TO ADD.
YEP, THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH TIME BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE STORE WOULD ACTUALLY OPEN.
WE DON'T SELECT AN OPERATOR RIGHT UNTIL.
BEFORE OR AFTER CONSTRUCTION STARTS, SO WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS, OF COURSE, AND JUST A WAYS AWAY, HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH YOUR STORE OFF 78 AND COLLEGE.
HOW WILL THIS LOCATION COMPARE IN SIZE TO THAT? IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE? YES, SQUARE FOOTAGE AND USAGE.
WELL, I THINK I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE SIZE OF THE ONE IN OCEANSIDE.
I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURE OFFHAND, BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF CIRCULATION, REMOVE IT, IT JUST THE FUNCTIONALITY OF IT WILL BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
WE HAVE THE APPROACH WITH THE OUTDOOR DINING, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUILDING HAS MORE OUTDOOR DINING IN ADDITION TO THE INTERIOR AND SO JUST A LOT MORE CONDUCIVE AND FRIENDLIER FOR THE WALK UPS AND OF COURSE, BEING SO CLOSE TO THE BEACH.
SO I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE OTHER.
DO YOU HAVE A PROJECTION ON THE NUMBER OF VISITORS AND/OR MEALS YOU'LL SERVE DAILY? NO, NOT HANDY, I DON'T HAVE THAT.
WELL, BASED ON AN AVERAGE STORE, YOU KNOW, THOSE NUMBERS? WE COULD WE TYPICALLY DON'T PROVIDE THOSE AS BEING PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? HOW MANY GUESTS WERE ANTICIPATING OR JUST, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GUESTS.
WELL, EXACTLY WE'D LIKE WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT TRAFFIC MIGHT BE LIKE.
I KNOW THIS IS A POPULAR AREA.
SURE AND WE DO HAVE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HERE THAT CAN HELP MAYBE SHED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT ON THAT BASED ON THEIR STUDIES.
IF THAT WOULD HELP, I DON'T HAVE THOSE FIGURES IN FRONT OF ME.
ALL RIGHT. FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? COMMISSIONER STINE.
YES, I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT CIRCULATION, BUT I THINK YOU'VE COVERED THAT PRETTY WELL IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
CHICK-FIL-A IS A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND ATTRACTS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN THERE AND ASSUMING THAT THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, THEN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH THE OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S THERE.
CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME? I KNOW THAT YOU PROVIDE MORE THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED ON SITE, BUT I'M CONCERNED AT PEAK TIME, SAY A FRIDAY SATURDAY NIGHT WHEN PEOPLE ARE OUT FOR A MEAL.
THEY MIGHT EXCEED THE FORTY ONE SPACES AND NEED TO GO NEXT DOOR AND DOWN THE ROAD, THERE ARE FOUR OTHER RESTAURANTS.
DO YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT OR AN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE RESTAURANTS THAT OVERFLOW TRAFFIC [INAUDIBLE] VEHICLE TRAFFIC CAN PARK IN THOSE OTHER SPACES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE OTHER RESTAURANTS? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION, AND IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
IN ADDITION TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR PARCEL AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WHICH IS DRIVEN BY A RATIO THAT THE CITY HAS FOR HOW MUCH RESTAURANTS NEED TO PROVIDE BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE ENTIRE CENTER HAS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REGULATION OVER IT, AND WE ARE REQUIRED THROUGH OUR ENTITLEMENTS TO PROVIDE SHARED PARKING ARRANGEMENTS AND AGREEMENTS.
SO IN ADDITION TO OUR SPECIFIC SITE, THERE IS AN AREA-WIDE FOR THE ENTIRE LONG PARCEL OF IN EXCESS OF FOUR HUNDRED SPACES ARE REQUIRED BY THAT ENTIRE PLANNED DISTRICT, AND THAT IS ALSO GOING TO BE OVER PART COMPARED TO THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
YOUR STAFF MAY HAVE MORE DETAILS ON THAT.
WE ARE SIMPLY REQUIRED TO SHOW THAT WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THAT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THERE IS SOME TYPE OF RECIPROCAL ARRANGEMENT, SO FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY IT'S A BUSY FRIDAY SATURDAY NIGHT.
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A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVING MEALS AT CHICK-FIL-A AND IN-N-OUT AND SOME OF A PERSON, IF NEED BE, COULD PARK DOWN AT THE SOUTHERN END NEAR MCGILL'S.IF THEY HAD TO AND WALK ALL THE WAY TO CHICK-FIL-A, THAT'S POSSIBLE, RIGHT? YES, MUCH AS IT FUNCTIONS NOW, I'VE DONE THAT MYSELF, GONE TO BREAKFAST FOR PUBLIC AND ENDED UP PARKING IN FRONT OF ONE OF THE OTHER RESTAURANTS.
THEY ARE NOT DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE FACILITIES, BUT ARE BASICALLY COMMUNAL PARKING IN THAT ENTIRE CENTER AND YOU BELIEVE WITH THAT ARRANGEMENT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET IN ONE OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND TRYING TO WALK ACROSS THAT VERY BUSY AVENIDA ENCINAS.
SO YOU'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT WE WON'T HAVE THAT.
IT WOULD BE QUITE A INCONVENIENCE FOR PEOPLE TO DO SO AND IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THEY DO, IT IS ALL THE MORE RATIONALE FOR WHY THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITH PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS PROTECTED IS REALLY NECESSARY.
THEY WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THAT SITUATION.
BUT NO, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THEY WOULD PARK IN THE CENTER WHERE THEY CAN FIND PARKING AT PEAK TIMES.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? OK, NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
MS. FLORES--I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. THIS QUESTION HONESTLY HAS NO BEARING ON MY DECISION MAKING, BUT I AM GENUINELY CURIOUS GIVEN THE CHOICE NOT OR RATHER THE DECISION NOT TO HAVE A DRIVE-THRU IN THIS RESTAURANT.
YOU'LL OBVIOUSLY BE GETTING PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE IN THE STORE UNLESS THERE'S LIKE AN OUTSIDE LITTLE WINDOW THAT YOU CAN ORDER OUTSIDE IN.
DOES YOUR STORE OR YOUR COMPANY HAVE A POSITION ON VACCINE MANDATES BECAUSE IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION THAT'S HAPPENING IN EVERY CITY, IN EVERY LOCALITY AND ALL ACROSS THE STATE AND THE NATION NOW? I'M JUST WONDERING, IS YOUR STORE SET UP, YOU THINK, TO DO THAT IN THE EVENT THAT YOU HAVE TO? CARLOS, I'LL DEFER THAT ONE TO YOU.
I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE ABIDE BY THE LOCAL AND STATE REGULATIONS, AND THAT'S THE EXPECTATION. WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO TRY AND UNDERMINE THAT ANY LESS.
IN FACT, THEY MIGHT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND IN CERTAIN CASES, BUT WE'LL GO OFF OF [INAUDIBLE] REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME OF THE APPLICANT? OK, GOOD. WELL, OPEN PUBLIC TESTIMONY, MS. FLORES, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? YES. SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY IF YOU'RE USING THE MEETING LINK OR TO LOG IN OR IF YOU'RE JOINING US BY PHONE, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW TO RAISE YOUR HAND.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME OR LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.
YOU'LL BE MUTED ONCE YOUR THREE MINUTES HAVE CONCLUDED.
ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
FIRST SPEAKER I HAVE IS STEVE LINKY.
THANK YOU. A GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN, AND EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS.
PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO THE STAFF, THE APPLICANT OR THE PUBLIC. AFTER WE'VE RECEIVED ALL THE TESTIMONY FROM EVERYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, WE WILL ASK THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION.
THANK YOU. WELL, THANKS, COMMISSIONER MEENES, THIS IS STEVE LINKY COMMENTING AS AN INDIVIDUAL SUMMARIZING MY SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS.
I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO AVOID SOME BAD PRECEDENTS THAT CONTINUE TO BE SET WITH TRAFFIC.
YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE INDEPENDENT FINDINGS THAT THE LOCAL STREET SYSTEM IS ADEQUATE TO HANDLE ALL THE NEW TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE GENERATED BY THE PROJECT AND IN THAT RESPECT, THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION CLAIMS THAT A VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ANALYSIS DEMONSTRATES THAT THERE'S A LACK OF IMPACT ON THE LOCAL STREET SYSTEM.
BUT VMT ANALYZES ARE A SECURE ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENT THAT ADDRESSES GREENHOUSE GASES AND ARE APPLICABLE TO OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
BUT VMT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE ADEQUACY OF THE STREETS, AND NO VMT STUDY WAS EVEN DONE FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH MAKES THE CLAIM GROUNDLESS.
WHAT DOES DETERMINE ADEQUACY OF TRAFFIC CIRCULATION IS THE LOCAL MOBILITY ANALYSIS UNDER
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OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND GENERAL PLANS.THE FACILITIES ALONG PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, INCLUDING THE INTERSECTION WITH AVENIDA ENCINAS, WHICH WAS DESCRIBED EARLIER, HAVE BEEN EXEMPTED FROM THE GMP BECAUSE THE LOCAL STREET SYSTEM IS ALREADY UNABLE TO HANDLE CURRENT TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND THE PROJECT WILL BE ADDING MORE TRAFFIC THERE THAT'S SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH IN THEIR OWN REPORT THAT REQUIRES BOTH TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS AND TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT FOR MITIGATION AND WITH REGARD TO TSM, THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE PROJECT DRIVEWAY IS GREAT AND APPRECIATED.
BUT THE TSM REQUIREMENT IN THE GENERAL MOBILITY ELEMENT APPLIES TO PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, AND THAT SIGNAL WILL NOT MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE THE CIRCULATION THERE.
SO TO MEET THE TSM REQUIREMENT UNDER THE MOBILITY ELEMENT, THE PROJECT SHOULD FUND ITS FAIR SHARE TO STUDY THAT INTERSECTION AND FUND ANY IDENTIFIED IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH IS ROUTINELY DONE ON EXEMPTED STREETS AND WITH REGARD TO TDM, THEY'RE CITING A SO-CALLED TIER ONE TDM ORDINANCE PLAN.
AGAIN, THOSE SUCH PLANS ARE ONLY DESIGNATED TO ADDRESS OR ONLY DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE DRIVING TO WORK.
WE NEED TO END THE PRACTICE OF CONFLATING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TDM ORDINANCE PLANS WITH THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION TDM STRATEGIES REQUIRED BY THE MOBILITY ELEMENT.
WHILE THE TDM APPROACHES CAN OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE TWO SEPARATE REQUIREMENTS, THEY'RE INDEPENDENT AND THIS DEVELOPMENT, IN PARTICULAR WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE NEW TRAFFIC COMING FROM TRIPS FROM CUSTOMERS, HIGHLIGHTS THE PROBLEM HERE AND LASTLY, THERE'S A CLAIM IN THE REPORT THAT THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THE LACK OF A SIDEWALK DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE PROJECT DOES NOT NEED TO BE STUDIED BECAUSE THERE ARE NO PLANNED LAND USES ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.
BUT THAT'S NOT A SUFFICIENT REASON TO NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK.
THIS AREA IS AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
THERE ARE MANY MASS TRANSIT AND MICRO TRANSIT FACILITIES THAT ARE PLANNED IN THE AREA, AND SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO STUDY THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MS. FLORES. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? YES, THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS ARNIE COHEN.
GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU, MR. COHEN. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU. I'M JUST CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
MY FAMILY, WE'RE ALL BIG CHICK-FIL-A FANS.
IN FACT, MY WIFE AND I WENT TO ENCINITAS TODAY AND HAD LUNCH AT CHICK-FIL-A AND GOT ONE OF THEIR PEPPERMINT MILKSHAKES, WHICH, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT'S ENOUGH REASON TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT ALL ON ITS OWN.
[CHUCKLING] BUT CHICK-FIL-A IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
OUR DAUGHTER AND FAMILY IN PHOENIX ARE VERY CLOSE PERSONAL FRIENDS WITH THE FRANCHISEE, THE OWNER OF THE STORE IN SCOTTSDALE AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU REALIZE WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW THEM A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN JUST BEING A CUSTOMER IS IS THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW MUCH THEY SUPPORT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.
OBVIOUSLY, A VERY FAMILY ORIENTED RESTAURANT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE GO TO WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND OVERALL, YOU KNOW, THE CHICK-FIL-A IS A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR CITY, AND I WON'T HAVE TO GO SPEND MY MONEY IN ENCINITAS ANYMORE.
SO AGAIN, STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE PROJECT AND REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE REALLY GOOD FOR THE CITY.
THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. COHEN. MS. FLORES.
THE NEXT SPEAKER, I HAVE WITH A PHONE NUMBER ENDING IN ONE ZERO SEVEN TWO.
PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.
PHONE NUMBER ENDING IN ONE ZERO SEVEN TWO.
YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS BRET SCHANZENBACH.
I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE CARLSBAD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
YOU RECEIVED OUR LETTER. THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER MERZ FOR BRINGING UP ONE OF OUR CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD.
BUT OVERALL, WE JUST LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
CHICK-FIL-A HAS A GREAT HISTORY OF OF CREATING GREAT WORK ENVIRONMENTS, GREAT ATMOSPHERE FOR THEIR TEAM, BUT ALSO GREAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SUPPORT.
THIS LOCATION WILL SERVE A LOT OF OF EMPLOYEES WHO WORK ON AVENIDA ENCINAS.
IT'LL BE A GREAT ASSET TO WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER THERE, AND WE'D LIKE TO URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE THIS APPLICATION AND MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
APPRECIATE IT. WE APPRECIATE THE CHAMBER'S COMMENTS.
MS. FLORES IS THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS A PHONE NUMBER ENDING IN SEVEN, EXCUSE ME, FIVE
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SEVEN FIVE FIVE.PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.
PHONE NUMBER ENDING IN FIVE SEVEN FIVE FIVE.
HI, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. HI, COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS COLLIN OLSON, I WORK IN CARLSBAD.
FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN EARLIER ABOUT THE MILKSHAKES, AND I WANTED TO THROW THE WAFFLE FRIES IN THERE TOO.
[CHUCKLING] GREAT FOR APPROVAL, BUT I WAS HAPPY TO HEAR THAT CHICK-FIL-A IS HOPEFULLY COMING TO THIS AREA. I HEARD ABOUT IT FIRST FROM A FRIEND A FEW YEARS AGO AFTER THE MEETING IN THE PARKING LOT.
IT WAS HOSTED BY BY CHICK-FIL-A.
SO I'M SURPRISED THAT IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG TO GET HERE, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE TO THIS LOCATION.
IT'S GREAT DURING THE WEEK, A WALKABLE OPTION FROM THE OFFICE, AND ESPECIALLY NOW THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO CROSS RIGHT AT AVENIDA ENCINAS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO ALL THE WAY OUT TO PALOMAR AIRPORT.
SO ANYWAY, A LONG TIME COMING, I HOPE THIS HAPPENS AND I URGE YOUR APPROVAL.
FRANCIS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
FRANCIS. HI, I'M JUST LISTENING IN.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING AND THAT IS ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS ITEM.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. FLORES. WITH THAT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY WITH STAFF LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED.
MR. CHAIR, I THINK THE PRIMARY QUESTIONS WERE THE COMMENTS THAT MR. LINKY SUMMARIZED FROM HIS LETTER, SO AS YOU'RE AWARE, MR. LINKY DID SUBMIT COMMENTS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT AND THEY WERE RESPONDED TO AND THEN, OF COURSE, HE PROVIDED COMMENTS IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS YOU RECEIVED.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT US TO GO BACK AND RESPOND TO THE NEW COMMENTS OR IF YOU FEEL THE ORIGINAL RESPONSE IS ADEQUATE FOR YOUR REVIEW.
I'M COMFORTABLE COMMISSIONERS, ANY REASON FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. OK.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT ALL ON THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? COMMISSIONER STINE. YES, I WOULD ASK THE STAFF WHAT I CONSIDER A VERY EXCELLENT PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE ON THE APPLICANTS COMMENTS ABOUT ACTUALLY BETTERING OR IMPROVING THE CIRCULATION FROM THE ADJACENT STREETS.
CAN WE CONFIRM THAT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE? AND PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
MR. NEU? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I THINK WE'D WANT ONE OF OUR ENGINEERING OR TRANSPORTATION STAFF TO RESPOND TO THAT, AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
MAYBE, MR. SCHMIDT, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LOCAL MOBILITY ANALYSIS, I BELIEVE.
YES, WE WERE THINKING MR. NEU. MR. SCHMIDT YEAH.
NATHAN SCHMIDT TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND MOBILITY MANAGER.
SO I THINK THE MAIN MITIGATION OR PROJECT IMPROVEMENT THAT WOULD BE IMPROVING TRAFFIC IN THE AREA IS THAT NEW SIGNAL AT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY.
IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, MANAGE TRAFFIC IN-N-OUT OF THE SITE WHEN QUEUING CONDITIONS ARE OCCURRING AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE THAT VERY IMPORTANT PROTECTED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, WHICH CURRENTLY DOESN'T EXIST SO PEOPLE CAN GET ACROSS AVENIDA ENCINAS WITH THE SIGNAL TO PROTECT THEM.
SO REALLY, THAT'S THE PRIMARY FEATURE TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW AND MULTIMODAL OPERATIONS IN THAT AREA OF THE SITE.
MR. SCHMIDT, BEING IT THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
MAYBE YOU COULD EXPAND IF NOTHING ELSE, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
THERE WERE ALSO COMMENTS IN REGARD TO THE CONTINUATION OF THE SIDEWALK FROM THE EAST SIDE NORTH OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
CONTINUING NORTH AND IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT MAKES IT QUITE CLEAR THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, OF COURSE, ASSISTS WITH SAFETY ON PEDESTRIANS BEING ABLE TO CROSS OVER WHERE THE MAJORITY OF ALL THE TRAFFIC GENERATOR HAPPENS TO BE FOR PEDESTRIANS, WHICH IS THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
BUT MAYBE YOU CAN JUST EXPAND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT FOR US.
WE'D APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, SO JUST IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING ACCESS TO WHERE PEDESTRIAN WILL WANT TO GO, THAT SIGNAL WILL DO EXACTLY THAT.
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IT WILL PROVIDE THAT PROTECTED CROSSING TO DESTINATIONS ACROSS AVENIDA ENCINAS.WHEREAS IF PEDESTRIANS WERE CONTINUED GOING NORTH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WALK QUITE A WAYS TO GET TO ANY NEARBY EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
SO, THE SIGNAL WILL PROVIDE MORE DIRECT ACCESS FOR PEDESTRIANS ACROSS AVENIDA ENCINAS.
THANK YOU, MR. SCHMIDT. MR. STINE, YES, MR. SCHMIDT, I LIKE TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.
STAFF REPORT INDICATES THAT THEY WILL BE ADDING, I BELIEVE IT'S NINE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY NINE ADTS TO THE AREA AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
I WOULD EXPECT A POPULAR RESTAURANT LIKE THAT WOULD ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE INTO THE AREA THAN THE OFFICE BUILDING.
THAT'S PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE.
BUT MY EARS PERKED UP WHEN THE APPLICANT TALKED ABOUT NOTWITHSTANDING, THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE IN THE AREA, THE CIRCULATION IS ACTUALLY GOING TO IMPROVE.
I'D LIKE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S AN ACCURATE STATEMENT? CIRCULATION WILL IMPROVE.
AGAIN, THESE ARE BASED UPON THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND THE FORECASTING THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT STAFF IS GOING OFF OF.
YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE GENERATING EXTRA TRIPS THAT SHOULD BE ACCOMMODATED BY THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WHICH WAS SHOWN IN THE LOCAL MOBILITY ANALYSIS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS HANGING THAT HAT ON IS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL PROVIDE BETTER OPERATIONAL CAPACITY TO HANDLE THAT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC VOLUME THAN THE EXISTING UN SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AT THAT DRIVEWAY.
OK, SO YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SUGGEST THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFICULT SITUATION WORSE, NOTWITHSTANDING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THE AREA AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME WORSE, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. YES.
SO ACCORDING TO THE ANALYSIS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON, THAT THEY DO SHOW THAT IT WILL OPERATE AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL WITH THE SIGNAL ACTUALLY IMPROVE.
WOULD YOU CONCUR WITH THAT? UM. APPROVE, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE, IT'S TOUGH TO SAY, LET'S SEE WHAT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE MARVELOUS IF THAT HAPPENED, BUT I GUESS I'M A LITTLE SUSPICIOUS WITH ADDING THAT MANY DAILY TRIPS AND I KNOW YOU'RE ADDING THE SIGNAL THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ENHANCEMENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IS IT REALLY GOING TO GET BETTER? YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD PROBABLY DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
THEY'VE DONE THE ANALYSIS AND THEY CAN PROVIDE A BETTER DESCRIPTION OF THE OPERATIONS THAT WOULD BE FORECAST THERE.
IT WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
SO THE DATA POINTS THAT I GAVE YOU BEFORE WE'RE FOUR LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE ROADS AND THE INTERSECTIONS, BUT WE HAVE WALTER MUSIAL FROM LLG TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANTS THAT DID OUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, AND WALTER CAN PROVIDE SOME MORE ANSWER.
HI, WALTER MUSIAL FROM LLG ENGINEERS.
JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE, WE DID DO A TRAFFIC MODEL ANALYSIS OF THE MAIN DRIVEWAY AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OR LOSS IS IN FACT IMPROVED WITH THE ADDITION OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AND ONE WAY TO KIND OF WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THIS IS SIMPLY THAT THE ADDED CAPACITY OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS GREATER THAN THE POTENTIAL DELAY DUE TO THE ADDED TRAFFIC OF THE PROJECT. SO AGAIN, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT IN OPERATIONS, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, SO THAT IT IS IN FACT A TRUE STATEMENT THAT IT WOULD IMPROVE.
[INAUDIBLE] HERE FOR MR. MUSIAL TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, SO I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY.
BUT WHAT ABOUT AVENIDA ENCINAS, YOU KNOW, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, THAT STRETCH OF AVENIDA ENCINAS.
I MEAN, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE TRAFFIC NOT BACKING UP OR GETTING GRIDLOCKED BETWEEN THOSE TWO POINTS? YES, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS NOT THE ONLY THING WE'VE DONE.
WE'VE ADDED EXTRA LANES AT THE DRIVEWAY.
WE'VE ALSO IMPROVED THE DRIVEWAY TO THE NORTH, WHERE WE'RE NOW ALLOWING [INAUDIBLE].
SO SHOULD EVER THE CASE MAY BE WHERE IT IS A LITTLE CONGESTED, SOMEONE COULD BYPASS THAT
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AND ENTER FURTHER DOWNSTREAM AS WELL AS THE PEDESTRIANS, WHICH IS A BIG ASSET FOR SURE.SO OVERALL, WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE OPERATIONS HERE.
AGAIN, A SIGNAL IS A GREAT TOOL TO PROTECT PEDESTRIANS AND HELP WITH EFFICIENT FLOW, SO WE DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR ISSUE.
AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND, TOO, THAT TRAFFIC IS NOT JUST COMING TO AND FROM THE SOUTH, IT WILL BE COMING TO AND FROM THE NORTH AS WELL.
SO IT STARTS TO DISSIPATE A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? SO THAT COMBINATION WITH THE ADDED CAPACITY OPERATIONS, WE DON'T FORESEE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT, AND WE VETTED THIS WITH CITY STAFF AS WELL.
OK, SO SOMEONE COMING FROM THE NORTH CAN ENTER THAT NORTHERN DRIVEWAY TURN [INAUDIBLE] TRAFFIC AND THEN TURN INTO THE DRIVEWAY THAT WAY.
OK. THANK YOU, MR. MUSIAL. APPRECIATE IT.
ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT FROM COMMISSIONERS.
I'VE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, WHEN IS THE EARLIEST WE MAY ANTICIPATE THIS FACILITY OPEN AND RUNNING.
CARLOS, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A GUESS AT THAT? YEAH, SO OUR EXPECTATION IS WE WOULD BE SUBMITTING FOR PERMITS, HOPEFULLY RIGHT AROUND THE TIME OF THE NEXT YEAR, CITY COUNCIL AND SO HONESTLY, HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES US TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AS WELL AS THE COASTAL COMMISSION, OUR HOPE WOULD BE THAT A LINE SOMEWHERE AROUND THE FULL ENTITLEMENTS, APPROVAL OR DATA AND ENTITLEMENT SO HOPEFULLY GROUNDBREAKING AS EARLY AS.
YOU KNOW, LATE NEXT YEAR WHEN THE COASTAL COMMISSION TAKES PLACE OR SHORTLY THEREAFTER IN A PERFECT WORLD, THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? MR. SABELLICO? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE ABOUT CIRCULATION THAT SHOWED AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE STORE AND AVENIDA ENCINAS? I GUESS YOU SAID THAT THEY COULD TURN IN ON THE OTHER ENTRANCE OR OTHER EXIT POINT THAT WAS ALSO AN ENTRANCE, AND I DIDN'T THINK THE MAP SHOWED THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT WAS ON THE APPLICANT'S SLIDE, WASN'T IT? YEAH. I'M SORRY, MY QUESTION WAS DIRECTED TO THE APPLICANT.
OH YEAH, I'LL BACK UP AND GET TO THAT.
LET'S SEE HERE THIS SLIDE? NO, GO, YES, I THINK THIS IS THE SLIDE HERE.
YEAH. SO I BELIEVE YOUR QUESTION IS REGARDING, CAN YOU SEE MY CURSOR? ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THIS DRIVEWAY? YES, ABOUT THAT DRIVEWAY THAT ALLOWS FOR VEHICLES TO BE EXITING THE SITE AND TURNING RIGHT? AND ALSO VEHICLES TO TURN INTO THE SITE FROM THE NORTHBOUND AVENIDA ENCINAS LANES.
OK. OK, THANK YOU, SO NOT SOUTHBOUND.
THEY CAN'T THAT'S IMMEDIATE RIGHT THERE, CORRECT? THERE IS A MEDIAN RIGHT THERE.
SURE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
APPRECIATE IT. OK, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? OKAY, SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER'S, COMMENTS? DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
I WILL ADD TO THE DISCUSSION, SO FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT THIS PROJECT IS EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE OVERALL.
I CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER STINE THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE BEST APPLICANTS PRESENTATIONS THAT I'VE SEEN ON MY COMMISSION, ON MY TIME ON THE COMMISSION.
SO KUDOS TO MR. R. AND MR. ARIAS ON THAT AND STAFF AS WELL.
MR. DANNA DID AN EXCELLENT JOB REDUCING THE COMPLEX APPLICATION, WHICH INVOLVED SEVERAL LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS AND OTHER JUDICIAL ACTIONS DOWN TO THE NECESSARY ELEMENTS.
THAT WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S CLEAR COMMUNITY SUPPORT, THEY HAVE A VERY UNIQUE BRAND, THIS RESTAURANT, THE COMPANY HAS A REPUTATION FOR TREATING ITS EMPLOYEES VERY WELL.
I THINK THEY HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING.
IF ANYTHING, THEY HAVE PERHAPS TOO MUCH PARKING AND JUST BASED ON THE AVAILABLE EXPERT TESTIMONY, CIRCULATION IS IMPROVED AND THERE'S NOTHING TO CONTRADICT THAT.
SO AND THE PROJECT IS ALSO VISUALLY APPEALING.
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SO FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, I'M IN SUPPORT.I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PROJECT AND I WELCOME THEM TO CARLSBAD.
I JUST WISH THEY WERE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
[CHUCKLING] GOOD. GOOD SUMMARY, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
COMMISSION COMMISSIONER STINE? YES, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON COMMISSIONER SABELLICO'S COMMENTS.
I THINK THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, I'LL GIVE SPECIAL KUDOS TO BOTH DID AN EXCELLENT JOB ON THIS ONE. I LOOK FROM THE STAFF REPORT.
THEY WERE ASKED TO DO THREE SEPARATE THINGS.
THERE ARE THREE RESOLUTIONS, SOME OF IT MORE OF A LEGISLATIVE IN TERMS OF CHANGING THE ZONING MAP AND CHANGING THE GENERAL PLAN.
I THINK THAT'S FINE BECAUSE IN THIS AREA, I THINK ANOTHER RESTAURANT IS A MUCH BETTER FIT THAN AN OFFICE BUILDING, THAT IS, I WON'T SAY, RUN DOWN, NO, BUT I THINK A CHICK-FIL-A THERE, IT WILL BE ACTUALLY A SMALLER STRUCTURE THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE THERE.
ADDITIONAL PARKING, I THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK NICER.
SO I THINK IN TERMS OF OUR LEGISLATIVE HAT, IN TERMS OF CHANGING THE ZONING, THE GENERAL PLAN, I THINK IT DOES MAKE SENSE HERE WITHOUT ANY QUESTION.
ON THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THIS, I DON'T SEE ANY CEQA ISSUES REALLY HERE.
THEY HAVE A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECK.
I DON'T SEE THAT DEMOLISHING A 10000 SOME ODD SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND REPLACING THAT WITH A 30000 SOME ODD SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.
IT'S GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM.
THE REAL CHALLENGE WAS THAT OF TRAFFIC, AND I, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONER SABELLICO INDICATED, WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER IS INCORRECT IN THE ASSESSMENT THAT THEY WILL ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE SITUATION.
I THINK THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS A BIG ASSET AND QUITE HONESTLY, I THINK THE CHICK-FIL-A WILL BE AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, A MORE DIVERSE DINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE IN THE AREA. SO I THINK ALL IN ALL, THIS WILL BE A WONDERFUL PROJECT AND I DO SUPPORT IT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STINE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT DID A FINE JOB IN ADDRESSING ALL THE ISSUES AND WAS VERY THOROUGH, AND I'M SURE STAFF ASSISTED THAT WITH MR. DANNA TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE I'S WERE DOTTED AND THE T'S WERE CROSSED.
SO I ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SABELLICO AND STINE AND ALL THEIR COMMENTS.
FURTHER DISCUSSION? OK WITH THAT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER STINE, YOU'RE MAKING THE MOTION? YES, I'LL MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD INCLUDE APPROVAL OF EACH OF THE THREE RESOLUTIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THANK YOU, I'LL MAKE THE SECOND.
YEAH, MOTION PASSES FIVE WITH TWO ABSENT.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, MR. NEU, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THE NEXT ITEM?
[2. ELECTION OF OFFICERS]
ITEM NUMBER TWO? YES, THANK YOU.SO OUR SECOND AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.
SO EVERY YEAR, USUALLY BY OUR FINAL MEETING OF THE YEAR SINCE, WE WON'T BE HAVING AN ADDITIONAL MEETING IN DECEMBER, WE PUT AN ITEM ON FOR YOU TO CONSIDER ELECTING A CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU ON ITEM TWO.
THERE IS A DRAFT MEMO THAT WAS PART OF YOUR PACKET THAT BASICALLY OUTLINES SOME OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIREMENTS ABOUT THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT IT'S REALLY FOR THE COMMISSION TO DECIDE AMONGST YOURSELVES WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE FOR BOTH POSITIONS AND TO VOTE ON BOTH OF THOSE PARTICULAR NOMINATIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER STINE, YES, I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF.
I HAVE KIND OF MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT GOING FORWARD ON THIS ITEM IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT TWO OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT THERE.
WHAT IS STAFF'S SENSE ON THAT? STAFF HAVE A POSITION WHETHER WE SHOULD CALL FORWARD AND DO THIS TODAY, BEING THAT IT'LL BE THE LAST MEETING FOR 2021 VERSUS KICKING IT OVER IN JANUARY AND PERHAPS HAVING EACH OF
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THESE ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONERS ABOARD.SO WE'D HAVE SEVEN RATHER THAN FIVE.
MR. NEU, COULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT, PLEASE? YES, I CAN. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STINE.
SO I DON'T SEE ANY SORT OF PROBLEMS CREATED BY DELAYING ACTION ON IT.
IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WHERE THE CURRENT COMMISSION WOULD CONTINUE ON UNTIL REPLACED AND SO WE WOULD EXPECT TO MEET IN JANUARY.
I THINK ACTUALLY THE 19TH, I THINK THE COUNCIL IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS FOR THE TWO PLANNING COMMISSION VACANCIES THAT OCCUR, THE TERMS THAT EXPIRE ON JANUARY 18TH.
SO I DON'T SEE THERE BEING AN ISSUE IF YOU AS A GROUP ELECT TO DEFER THIS TO THE MEETING IN JANUARY, THAT WAY, YOU WOULD HAVE A FULL COMMISSION, PRESUMABLY.
I'M NOT AWARE THAT ANYONE'S INDICATED THEY WOULD BE ABSENT THAT MEETING AND WE SHOULD, AS YOUR CONCERN ADDRESSES, WE SHOULD HAVE A COUNCIL ACTION.
I GUESS ONE CHALLENGE COULD BE IF THE COUNCIL DID APPOINT NEW MEMBERS, THEY MAY NOT BE READY TO EFFECTIVELY TAKE ACTION THE FOLLOWING DAY, JUST THE WAY THAT TIMING WORKS OUT.
BUT THE WAY THE COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS WORK, THEY DO TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
WE TYPICALLY HAVEN'T SEEN THEM MAKE AN ACTION AND HAVE IT, THIS WILL OCCUR IN 30 DAYS OR 60 DAYS, SO.
MR. NEU, FOLLOW UP ON THAT, HAVE EITHER OF OUR ABSENT COMMISSIONERS INDICATED A DESIRE THAT THIS MATTER BE KICKED OVER SO THEY POTENTIALLY CAN WEIGH IN JANUARY? THEY HAVE NOT. OK.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE CONTINUE THIS TILL JANUARY FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
ONE, TWO OF OUR MOST EXPERIENCED COMMISSIONERS, HOPEFULLY WILL REMAIN ON OUR COMMISSION AND SECONDLY, TWO OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT PRESENT TODAY.
SO I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO KICK IT OVER AS LONG AS, MR. NEU, THERE'S NO PROBLEM THAT YOU FORESEE IN SO DOING.
MR. NEU. YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I DON'T FORESEE A PROBLEM, I THINK IT'S TOTALLY AT YOUR DISCRETION WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT TODAY OR POSTPONE IT TO A FUTURE DATE.
ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
IF WE'RE DOING QUESTIONS, I'LL HOLD MY COMMENT UNTIL DISCUSSION, SORRY, OK.
ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER SABELLICO, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ASK IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS EXPECT TO BE ABSENT ON JANUARY 5TH.
YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT TO KICK IT TO JANUARY 5TH AND YOU KNOW, CAUS YOU TO LOSE YOUR VOICE ON THIS, SO SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER--COMMISSIONERS? MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD REAL QUICK.
THANK YOU. THE MEETING, I THINK COMMISSIONER SABELLICO IS PROBABLY CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE THE FIFTH, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE HAVING OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT DAY.
SO OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE, I BELIEVE IT'S THE 19TH OF JANUARY.
SO IF YOU WANT TO [INAUDIBLE] YOURSELVES IN TERMS OF ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION IS, DO WE WISH TO PROCEED ON WITH THE NOMINATION OR DO WE WISH TO CARRY THIS ITEM OVER TO THE JANUARY 19TH MEETING? DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER STINE? YEAH, I HAD MIXED FEELINGS ON THAT AND AFTER HEARING FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND HEARING FROM PLANNING DIRECTOR.
I THINK IT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO WOULD BE TO KICK IT OVER TO JANUARY 19TH.
SO I WOULD MOVE THAT THE SELECTION OF OFFICERS FOR 2020 BE MOVED TO THE AGENDA ON JANUARY 19TH, 2022.
COMMISSIONER MERZ. YOU'RE MUTED.
I'LL SECOND THAT. OK, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CARRY THIS OVER TO THE JANUARY 19TH MEETING.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STINE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MERZ.
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THE MOTION PASSES BY FIVE WITH TWO EXIT.ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING AND
[PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS:]
WE'LL GO TO STAFF ITEMS. ANY REPORT BY COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE ONE. I HAPPENED THE OTHER DAY TO GO ONLINE TO THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.I WAS CURIOUS TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACADEMY FOR THE LEAGUE FOR NEXT YEAR AND IN DOING SO, I DID NOTICE THAT IT IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 16TH THROUGH THE 18TH AND IT IS GOING TO BE HELD IN SAN RAMON, CALIFORNIA, UP IN THE BAY AREA AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT APPEARS THAT THEY ARE PLANNING UNLESS THERE'S SOME CHANGE REGARDING THE COVE IN 19 TO HAVE IT BE IN-PERSON.
SO I THOUGHT I'D SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME.
MR. NEU, ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU MIGHT HAVE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE ONLY THING ADDITIONAL I SAW I DID SEE SOMETHING FROM THE LEAGUE THAT TALKED ABOUT THEY'RE GOING TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS AND SORT OF PROBABLY WHAT YOU'VE SEEN WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS NEEDING TO PRESENT PROOF OF VACCINATION OR A RECENT TEST AND THEN HAVING TO WEAR A MASK DURING THE SESSION.
BUT IT WAS, AS YOU DESCRIBED, THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO RETURN TO IN-PERSON.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER REPORTS BY COMMISSIONERS? OK, I SEE NONE.
[CITY PLANNER REPORT:]
SO THE ONE REPORT I DO RECALL THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION WAS YOU HAD CONSIDERED A PROJECT CALLED ADAM STREET NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT WAS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THE COUNCIL DID CONSIDER THE APPEAL AND DENIED THE APPEAL AND UPHELD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT.THAT WAS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEING FOR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES PROPOSED ON THAT PROPERTY AND THEN WE ARE STILL KIND OF WORKING THROUGH ALL THE AS YOU CONSIDER IT APPOINTMENTS OR NOMINATIONS FOR VARIOUS OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE.
THAT'S STILL BEING WORKED ON TO GET NOMINATIONS FROM ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND GET BEFORE COUNCIL.
SO WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET, BUT WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
COULD YOU ALSO MR. NEU, MAYBE JUST ENLIGHTEN AS TO COUNCIL ACTION ON THE VILLAGE BARRIO MASTER PLAN UPDATE? YES. SO, THE COUNCIL DID CONSIDER A NUMBER OF OPTIONS.
THERE WERE QUITE A FEW OPTIONS AND THEN OUR TOPICS WITH OPTIONS BELOW EACH, AND I DON'T HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THE WELL, HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT, I DO HAVE A LIST.
LET'S SEE. OK, I KNOW I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS I DO RECALL, THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING US AT LEAST DO ADDITIONAL WORK TO CONSIDER WHETHER THINGS LIKE THE FARMER'S MARKET COULD BE LOCATED IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, SUCH AS IN THE BARRIO AREA.
SO SOME OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE VILLAGE DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT AS A POTENTIAL USE.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS DOWN THERE THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SORT OF THE IMPACTS OF THAT TYPE OF USE ON THEIR HOMES AND THEIR ABILITY TO ENJOY THEIR PROPERTIES. SO [INAUDIBLE] GO THROUGH SOME ADDITIONAL WORK.
I THINK THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF A POLICY THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT OF SOME OF WHAT WE'RE BEING REFERRED TO AS VITAL USES, SO THINGS LIKE GROCERY AND OTHER THINGS THAT RESIDENTS IN THE VILLAGE WOULD NEED ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS.
THEY ALSO SUPPORTED UPDATING THE PARKING AND FEE PROGRAM.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, IN THE VILLAGE, IN CERTAIN AREAS AND CERTAIN NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, APPLICANTS, IF THEY CAN MEET SPECIFIC FINDINGS, HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY PARKING IN-LIEU FEE AND THAT FEE WAS ESTABLISHED MANY YEARS AGO AND IS REALLY NOT KEPT UP WITH CURRENT
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COSTS. SO WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO GO AHEAD AND UPDATE THAT.ONE OF THE THINGS MAYBE NOT CONSIDERED WITHIN THE PLAN ITSELF, BUT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVATIONS, THE ABILITY TO KEEP THOSE PERMANENTLY. SO WE'RE DOING SOME FURTHER WORK ON THAT TOPIC AND THEN WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO STUDY.
TYLER STREET AND WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE CONVERTED INTO A ONE WAY STREET FOR A PORTION OVER THERE. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, I THINK IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT ITEM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. HERE WE GO.
THERE'S ONE LAST AREA AND THIS WAS DEALING WITH GRAND AVENUE AND THE PROMENADE.
THAT WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FEATURE OF THE MASTER PLAN AND SO COUNCIL WAS PRESENTED WITH A COUPLE OF OPTIONS, SUCH AS TEMPORARY CLOSING PART OF THE STREET.
AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT WAS ACTUALLY DOING A STUDY TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS WOULD BE OF THAT AND THEN COMING BACK AND DECIDING WHETHER TO PUSH FORWARD WITH A CAPITAL PROJECT TO DO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEY DID ELECT TO FOREGO, SORT OF THE INTERIM OR TEMPORARY CLOSURE AND ACTUALLY JUST DO IT THROUGH A STUDY.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN EXPRESSED THAT IF YOU DID SORT OF THIS TEMPORARY EFFORT, YOU WOULDN'T SEE NECESSARILY ALL THE BENEFITS AND YOU WOULD JUST HAVE THIS NOT FULLY IMPLEMENTED PROMENADE AS AN EXAMPLE THAT WOULDN'T BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ULTIMATE PROJECT AND I THINK THAT WAS THE PRIMARY THING THAT OH, I'M SORRY THE OTHER ONE TO PROBABLY ADDRESS COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN THIS.
COUNCIL DID SUPPORT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT IN THE VILLAGE IN BARRIO AND I THINK AS YOU'VE HEARD THERE IS WORK GOING ON ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE MILLS ACT AND DEVELOPING ORDINANCES FOR THAT.
SO THIS WOULD BE SORT OF A COMPANION EFFORT TO THAT TO FURTHER CREATE INCENTIVES, I THINK, WAS WHAT THE COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN FOR PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN EXISTING STRUCTURES RATHER THAN DEMOLISH THEM AND CONSTRUCT A NEW.
SO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PERHAPS REDUCING PARKING STANDARDS IF SOMEONE WAS TO REUSE A BUILDING VERSUS TEARING DOWN AND REPLACING.
SO THOSE WERE THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE, AND WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THOSE THINGS. LET ME ASK YOU, I KNOW WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS HAVING PUBLIC HEARINGS IN REGARD TO THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN, GRAND AVENUE, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS IN REGARD TO BICYCLES AND BICYCLE DEDICATED BICYCLE PATHS ON GRAND AVENUE.
DID THE COUNCIL EXPAND ON THAT OR COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT FOR US AS TO THAT ELEMENT? SURE. YEAH, TO MY RECOLLECTION, THEY DIDN'T GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL ON GRAND.
THE MASTER PLAN AT SOME CONCEPTS FOR A PROMENADE, AND THEY BASICALLY JUST DEALT WITH THE IDEA OF HOW BEST TO DO FURTHER STUDIES TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER TO GO FORWARD WITH ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING.
SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? I THINK FOR THAT PARTICULAR THING, IT'S REALLY I WOULD ENVISION IT BEING PROBABLY SOMETHING SIMILAR TO A TRAFFIC STUDY OF SORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT BY ELIMINATING CERTAIN VEHICLE LANES, IT DOESN'T CAUSE OTHER UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND THEN AS PART OF THAT, LOOKING AT HOW IT CONNECTS WITH PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE CIRCULATION.
OK, SO NEXT STEP IN REGARD TO THE VILLAGE AND THE BARRIO MASTER PLAN FOR THAT IN GENERAL AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS THAT AREN'T ACTUAL AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN. THEY'RE KIND OF COMPANION EFFORTS.
SO THOSE WILL WILL BE INITIATED AND THEN FOR THE PLAN IN GENERAL, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN.
BUT OVERALL, I THINK WE'RE STILL TRYING TO PRIORITIZE WHICH IS GOING FIRST AND HOW TO START IT. SOME OF THE ITEMS WE DID INDICATE TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD NEED CONSULTANT ASSISTANCE AND THERE WERE SOME COST ESTIMATES.
SO I THINK WE'LL BE GOING OUT AND GETTING PROPOSALS ON THOSE AND THEN RETURNING TO THE COUNCIL AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY WOULD APPROVE THE FUNDING FOR THOSE IN ORDER FOR US TO IMPLEMENT THEM. GREAT.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, I APPRECIATE THAT.
YES, MR. NEU, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE FOR US WITH REGARD TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT UPDATE COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF SOLICITING CITIZENS THAT MAY WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT? YOU HAVE ANYTHING NEW ON THAT FOR US.
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THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STINE, I DON'T.I KNOW WHEN YOU AND I TALKED, IT LOOKED AS IF THE VACANCIES OR THE OPENINGS HADN'T BEEN ADVERTISED YET AND I THINK THAT MAY BE BECAUSE THEY WERE FOCUSED ON THE VILLAGE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT TOPIC.
MR. NEU, ANY FURTHER REPORT? NO FURTHER REPORTS FROM ME, MR. CHAIR. OK.
MR. KEMP? NOTHING TO REPORT. YEAH, THANK YOU.
[Additional Item]
WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN? THANK YOU. A FEW MONTHS AGO, I HAD A LAWSUIT INVOLVING AN ELECTRICAL BIKE MANUFACTURER, AND PERHAPS I'VE FINALLY BECOME AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR CITY AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE COMMISSIONER MEENES, YOU TALKED ABOUT CIRCULATION, ET CETERA.MR. NEU OR MR. KEMP, WHOM COULD I CONTACT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN OR A PLANNING COMMISSIONER TO TALK ABOUT? I THINK THE GROWING PROBLEM WITH ELECTRIC BIKES IN CARLSBAD.
I LIVE NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND I ROUTINELY VISIT DOWNTOWN AND INCREASINGLY, THERE ARE LITERALLY PLATOONS OF TEENAGERS, BY TEENAGERS, I'M TALKING 12, 13, 14 YEARS OLD WHO ARE DRIVING AROUND ON THESE ELECTRICAL BIKES THAT CAN GO UP TO TWENTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR, AND THEY SEEM CAVALIER IN IGNORING STOP SIGNS.
I FORESEE A REAL PROBLEM IN POTENTIAL LITIGATION WHEN PEOPLE GET INJURED, MR. KEMP. WELL, YOU KNOW, DON CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I WOULD THINK HE WOULD CONTACT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FIRST, AND IF HE THINKS HIS VIOLATIONS GOING ON, HE CAN, OF COURSE, CONTACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THESE COMPLAINTS, SO ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS IS PROBABLY LOOKING INTO IT RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, THESE ARE YOUNG CHILDREN AND THEY'RE RIDING LIKE TWO AND THREE ON THESE BICYCLES BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE POWER TO GO AS FAST AS A CAR, LITERALLY.
YEAH. MR. NEU, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? ONLY, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE SEEN ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE SOME INFORMATION THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BEEN TRYING TO REINFORCE, I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN'S DESCRIBING THAT THESE ELECTRIC BIKES ARE SUBJECT TO THE TRAFFIC RULES, AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE OFFERED VARIOUS TRAININGS AND THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT PEOPLE OPERATING THE ELECTRIC BIKES NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE ROAD.
SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA TO CONTACT THE POLICE ADMINISTRATIVE NUMBER AND SEE WHAT KIND OF RESOURCES THEY CAN DIRECT TO IT.
THANK YOU, I'M ALSO AWARE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ENICINITAS SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND SAN DIEGUITO SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE HOSTING THE SHERIFFS AND SOME OTHER BICYCLE ORGANIZATIONS IN THEIR SCHOOLS AND, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE LIKE AN ASSEMBLY ON BICYCLE SAFETY, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE E-BIKES.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT CARLSBAD SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING, BUT I KNOW THAT'S HAPPENING IN ENCINITAS SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS K THROUGH SIX.
IT MIGHT IT MIGHT BE WORTH BRINGING IT UP TO YOUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, MAYBE SUGGESTING THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
OK, WITH THAT, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN, I WISH EACH OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES A HEALTHY, HAPPY AND SAFE HOLIDAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL IN JANUARY.
ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE STAND ADJOURNED.
ALL RIGHT.
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