Mar 08, 2022 City Council Meeting

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I'D JUST LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING THE FIVE OF US ARE REALLY GLAD TO BE BACK IN THESE

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SO WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE ON WITH THE ROLL CALL.

COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY, HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL HERE.

MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN PRESENT.

MAYOR HALL HERE.

WITH THAT, IF WE COULD ALL PLEASE RISE, MR. BLACKBURN WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. SO WE HAD NO CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT TO REPORT

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

IT'S THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 8TH.

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS RECITED BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND. OK.

PLEASE VOTE. OK, WE PASSED THAT TEST.

IT WAS UNANIMOUS AND EVERYBODY GOT THE ELECTRONICS RIGHT.

[PRESENTATIONS]

BHAT-PATEL. GREAT, THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

REALLY NICE TO SEE EVERYONE ON INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY AND REALLY EXCITED THAT WE GET TO HONOR NATIONAL WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH TODAY.

THE THEME FOR INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY IS BREAKING THE BIAS, AND I KNOW FOR WOMEN FOR MANY YEARS, THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WOMEN HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR IS BREAKING THAT BIAS. AND IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE SO MANY WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP HERE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. IT'S TRULY AN HONOR TO SERVE ALONGSIDE THEM.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ OUR PROCLAMATION.

SO WHEREAS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH HAD ITS ORIGINS AS A NATIONAL CELEBRATION IN 1981 AND HAS SINCE BEEN RECOGNIZED WITH AN ANNUAL PRESIDENTIAL PROCLAMATION TO PROMOTE THE SPECIFIC ACHIEVEMENTS WOMEN HAVE MADE OVER THE COURSE OF AMERICAN HISTORY IN A VARIETY OF FIELDS. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS A PROUD LEGACY OF WOMEN LEADING AND PLAYING CRITICAL ROLES AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS THE OFFICIAL TWENTY TWENTY TWO THEME OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH IS PROVIDING HEALING AND PROMOTING HOPE SO DESIGNATED TO RECOGNIZE FRONTLINE WORKERS AND OTHERS WHO HAVE PLAYED IMPORTANT ROLES DURING THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC AND.

AND I'LL READ THE REST OF THE PROCLAMATION, AND I THINK THE PERSON WHO'S ACCEPTING THE PROCLAMATION IS NANCY SODERBERG.

YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND I'LL FINISH READING THE REST OF THE PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S THEME ALSO RECOGNIZES THE THOUSANDS OF WAYS WOMEN OF ALL CULTURES HAVE PROVIDED BOTH HEALING AND HOPE THROUGHOUT HISTORY.

AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR, THE SPIRIT OF HEALING AND HOPE HAS PLAYED AN INSTRUMENTAL ROLE IN HELPING THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD LOOK TOWARD A BRIGHTER FUTURE.

AND WHEREAS WE ENCOURAGE OUR COMMUNITY TO HONOR THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS OF ALL WOMEN PAST AND PRESENT WHO HAVE DELIVERED US TO THIS MOMENT TODAY BECAUSE OF THEM, OUR FUTURE DAUGHTERS AND GRANDDAUGHTERS WILL ONE DAY WONDER WHY WE EVER NEEDED A SPECIAL MONTH AT ALL. NOW, THEREFORE, I COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE NATIONAL WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH AND CALL UPON THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY TO OBSERVE THIS MONTH BY CELEBRATING AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE GENERATIONS OF WOMEN WHO HAVE LEFT ENDURING IMPRINTS ON OUR HISTORY.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL WOMEN AND TO THIS MONTH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM HONORED TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION CELEBRATING WOMEN EVERYWHERE AND OUR STORIES OF JOY, RESOLVE AND STRENGTH.

THIS IS ALSO A TRIBUTE TO WOMEN PAST AND PRESENT SERVING THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, OF DYNAMIC BACKGROUNDS, TALENTS AND STRENGTHS.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA AND COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR PRESENCE HERE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE LENA SUTTON, THE FIRST WOMAN TO SERVE AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN 1952, THE YEAR THAT CARLSBAD WAS INCORPORATED, AND MARY KASLER SERVED AS CARLSBAD, THE FIRST WOMAN TO BE ELECTED MAYOR FROM 1982 TO 1986, AND APPRECIATION TO ALL WOMEN WHO SERVED ON CITY COUNCIL IN THE PAST.

TO THE FOLLOWING WOMEN FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP ROLES, TO NAME A FEW.

BEGINNING WITH MY BOSS AND EVEN RESOURCES MANAGER, LAURIE SHANLEY, FABIOLA MEDINA, CHRISTINA RAY. SHEILA COBIAN, CELIA BREWER, MANDY MILLS, SUZANNE SMITHSON, LAURA ROCHA,

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IN ADDITION AND OF GREAT IMPORTANCE, I ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION IN APPRECIATION OF WOMEN COLLEAGUES AT ALL LEVELS.

THIS IS FOR YOU. ALSO CAPTAIN CHRISTY CALDERWOOD AND LT.

DEBBIE ERNST, DARBY ERNST.

EXCUSE ME. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HELPED SUSTAIN THE FOUNDATION OF THE ORGANIZATION AND WOMEN WHO CONTINUE TO FURTHER DIVERSE, EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE ACTIONS.

THIS ALSO INCLUDES RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION OF WOMEN WHO SERVE ON THE DEI COMMITTEE.

ANDREA HILLIARD, CASSIDY, MCCARTHY, [INAUDIBLE], ESTHER LAN, HANNAH NELSON, ROSARIO ARANDA, SANDRA RIGGINS AND PREVIOUS MEMBERS KASHA TORCHINOWSKA AND TRACY STATON.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN PAYING HOMAGE TO WOMEN AND THANK YOU.

AND WE THANK YOU.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

PUBLIC COMMENT. AND BEFORE WE START, I NEED TO READ SOMETHING FOR THE AUDIENCE HERE.

THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED, UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL OTHER NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.

SO WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MAYOR. THE FIRST IS A GROUP MIKE BORRELLO, REPRESENTING KELLY LEBRETON, TERRI JACOBS AND ELLIE ARKINS.

YOUR GROUP HAS 10 MINUTES.

WELCOME BACK TO COUNCIL CHAMBERS COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MIKE BORRELLO, AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE IN CARLSBAD FOR ABOUT TWENTY FIVE YEARS. I AM A ENGINEER AND A SCIENTIST.

UP UNTIL ABOUT FEBRUARY 4TH, I HAD WORKED FOR A RESTAURANT HERE IN CARLSBAD, CARLSBAD CO.

LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT. YOU DON'T ANSWER IT.

BUT HOW MUCH TIME DOES EVERYBODY SPEND DURING THE DAY RESEARCHING COVID 19 AND COVID 19 VACCINES? PROBABLY NOT MUCH TIME, EVERYBODY IS BUSY WITH THEIR DAILY LIFE, AND THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET ON AND RESEARCH AND PULL UP PAPERS AND EVERYTHING.

BUT I MADE IT A FULL TIME JOB.

EVEN WHEN I WAS WORKING, I SPENT A LOT OF HOURS.

NOW I'M NOT WORKING, I GET UP AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING AND I'M NOT DONE UNTIL FIVE O'CLOCK.

AND I'M DOING RESEARCH.

AND WHAT I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT IS AN UNDERCURRENT.

THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR THROUGH THE MEDIA.

AND IF YOU POKE AROUND ENOUGH, YOU CAN FIND THE INFORMATION YOURSELF, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO FALL IN YOUR LAP.

WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM HERE.

FIRST, LET ME CONTEXT, I'M NOT AN ANTI-VAXXER.

UP UNTIL COVID 19 VACCINES, I GOT MY FLU SHOT EVERY YEAR.

I GOT THE SHINGLES VACCINE ACTUALLY DURING COVID WHEN IT WAS GOING ON, BUT THEN WHEN THE VACCINES ROLLED OUT, I ACTUALLY SIGNED UP TO BE A GUINEA PIG ON THE PFIZER WEBSITE FOR PHASE THREE TRIALS.

THEY NEVER CALLED ME.

SO JANUARY CAME AROUND, AND I'M HOPING I'M GOING TO GET VACCINATED NOW, HAVE A CHANCE.

THAT NEVER CAME AROUND, BUT THEN I CAME ACROSS SOME DATA ABOUT THAT TIME, ABOUT THE MECHANISMS OF THE VACCINE.

IT'S A WORLD APART.

THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO FILE A REDEFINITION OF THE VACCINE.

IT'S REALLY A GENE THERAPY RELABELED AS A VACCINE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THOSE DETAILS HERE, THEY'RE VERY DETAILED.

THAT WAS THE FIRST RED FLAG THAT I SAW AS THE MECHANISM THAT MRNA GETS INTO YOUR CELLS AND REPROGRAMS OF PROTEIN MANUFACTURING MACHINERY OF THE CELL TO PRODUCE THE SPIKE PROTEIN SIMILAR SPIKE PROTEIN NOT THE SAME, BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT THE VIRUS GIVES OFF.

SO TIME WENT ON, AND I'M WAITING REALLY DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF IT, OTHER JUST KIND OF

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AND THE SECOND RED RED FLAG I HAD AS I CAME ACROSS THIS WEBSITE CALLED VAERS, VACCINE ADVERSE EVENT REPORTING SYSTEM.

AND I WAS CURIOUS, I GOT INTO IT, LIKE I SAY, I'M AN ENGINEER, SO I LEARNED HOW TO USE A DATABASE PULL DOWN DATA.

AND START TO LOOK AT THE DATA, NOT ONLY LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, BUT ALSO DOING SOME ANALYSIS OF THE DATA.

AND WHAT I SAW AT THAT TIME, THIS IS LIKE SPRING OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE, ABOUT TWO THOUSAND DEATHS. AND I SAW THIS.

OK. THESE ARE THE NUMBERS, BUT THEN THEY'RE CATEGORIZED ACCORDING TO ONSET OF DEATH.

SO WHAT THIS SHOWS YOU IS CORRELATION.

NOW, CORRELATION DOESN'T MEAN CAUSATION.

BUT. OTHER SCIENTISTS DOCTORS HAVE BEEN WORKING OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, AND THEY PULLED THIS DATA TOGETHER, AND NOW THEY'VE RAN WHAT'S CALLED BRADFORD HILL THAT TAKES DATA LIKE THIS AND ADDITIONAL DATA, AND THEY HAVE SEVEN POINTS.

THEY LOOK OUT AND THEY'RE ABLE TO PUT ALL OF THESE TOGETHER AND FIND THAT YOU DO HAVE CAUSATION AND THEY FOUND IT ON MYOCARDITIS AND FRONT FROM THROMBOCYTOPENIA.

SO THE VACCINES ARE DEFINITELY CAUSING THESE THESE ARE WRITTEN UP IN PAPERS.

I BROUGHT COPIES OF THE PAPERS HERE IN JAMA ARTICLE IN JANUARY ON MYOCARDITIS DETERMINE CAUSATION. AND WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'RE INJECTING THE KIDS WITH IT NOW, THE LEAST VULNERABLE.

TO THE VACCINE THAT WE'RE PUTTING, I'M SORRY TO THE VIRUS, BUT WE'RE PUTTING THIS VACCINE IN THAT CAN CAUSE THEM.

AND THEY'RE ARE GREATER RISK.

WE DON'T KNOW WHY YET, BUT I SUSPECT IT'S BECAUSE KIDS ARE MORE ACTIVE, SO IF THEY GET ANY CLOTS FORMING IN THEIR SYSTEM AND THEY GET OUT AND THEY PLAY FOOTBALL OR BASKETBALL OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE GOING TO STRESS THEIR SYSTEM.

AND IF THEY BREAK OFF ONE OF THESE CLOTS AND IT GOES TO THEIR BRAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A STROKE THAT GOES TO THEIR LUNG.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE. EMBOLISM, PULMONARY EMBOLISM.

SO THAT CONCERNED ME, WHEN I SAW THAT, SO I'M GOING TO BACK OFF AT THIS MOMENT AND WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

I KEPT MONITORING THE DATA WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND DEATHS ASSOCIATED WITH THE COVID VACCINE AND YOU STILL GET THIS CORRELATION GOING ON.

SO. WHY ARE WE VACCINATING AGAINST AN EXTINCT VIRUS? THE ALPHA VARIANT IS GONE, BUT THE VACCINES WERE DESIGNED FOR THE ALPHA VARIANT.

AND THE GENOME.

WELL, LET ME GO ON, LET ME GO ON HERE, SO.

EFFICACY OF THE PFIZER AND MODERNA VACCINES.

OK, IT WAS NEVER 99.5 PERCENT.

THERE WAS A PAPER WRITTEN IN MEDICINA.

OF MID LAST YEAR WRITTEN BY BROWN.

AND WHAT HE DID IS HE TOOK THE ACTUAL PFIZER DATA AND HE WENT THROUGH AND HE CALCULATED NOT THE METRIC THAT THE PHARMA COMPANIES WERE CALCULATING, WHICH IS RELATIVE RISK BUT ACTUALLY ABSOLUTE RISK.

AND YOU NEED TO CALCULATE ABSOLUTE RISK BECAUSE IT'S CLOSELY CONNECTED WITH ANOTHER METRIC CALLED NUMBER NEEDED TO VACCINATE.

AND THAT TELLS YOU HOW MANY DO YOU NEED TO VACCINATE IN ORDER TO PREVENT? ONE COVID INFECTION AND WHAT BROWN FOUND OUT IN THE PAPER OR WHAT HE SHOWED IN THE PAPER IS LIKE MODERNA OR PFIZER.

BETWEEN 80 AND ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY VACCINATIONS IN ORDER TO PREVENT ONE COVID INFECTION, THAT'S THE ALPHA VARIANT.

NOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DELTA, IT'S GONE.

NOW WE'RE OMICRON.

AND. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S DONE THE CALCULATIONS, BUT I'M WILLING TO BET IT'S LIKE ZERO PERCENT EFFECTIVE NOW.

SO THAT'S EFFICACY, SO IT'S DOING HARM, IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE YET.

WE WANT TO INJECT OUR KIDS WITH IT.

TO DATE, THERE'S ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX SENATE ASSEMBLY BILLS RIGHT NOW IN CALIFORNIA. AND SOME OF THEM, LIKE 801993, ARE GOING TO TAKE AWAY CALIFORNIA'S CITIZENS FREEDOMS. WON'T BE ABLE TO WORK IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA UNLESS YOU'RE VACCINATED FOR THE EXTINCT VIRUS.

AND THAT'S GOT TO BE IF THIS GOES THROUGH 801993, THAT'LL GO INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY OF 2023. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVASTATING TO THE ECONOMY, IT'S GOING TO BE DEVASTATING, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ALREADY MOVING OUT.

I RUN ON THE STREETS OF CARLSBAD.

I SEE VACANT HOMES NOW FOR SALE SIGNS.

NEVER LIKE BEFORE.

PEOPLE ARE LEAVING CALIFORNIA.

THEY'RE LEAVING CARLSBAD. I CAN'T IMAGINE LEAVING CARLSBAD.

I DON'T EVER WANT TO LEAVE CARLSBAD.

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I WORKED IN MEDICAL DEVICES, PHARMA HAS TO DO THE SAME THING WHEN THEY PUT OUT A PRODUCT, THEY HAVE TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND TAKE DATA AND LOOK TO SEE HOW EFFECTIVE THE PRODUCT IS AND ALSO SAFETY.

AND I DIDN'T BRING A COPY OF THAT WITH ME, BUT IF YOU GOOGLE IT ONLINE, YOU CAN FIND IT.

IT'S ALL OVER THE INTERNET RIGHT NOW AND YOU GOT TO READ THROUGH IT A LOT OF DEATHS AND INJURIES IN THAT REPORT, WHICH CORROBORATES THE VAERS DATA.

OK. IT'S A SECOND HAND THING.

BY THE WAY. I'VE BEEN LABELED AS SPREADER OF MISINFORMATION, ANTI-VAXXERS SPREAD MISINFORMATION, BUT WHAT I'M PRESENTING HERE AND IS NOT SOMETHING I MADE UP, IT'S SOMETHING I PULLED OUT OF THE RECORD.

THESE ARE COMING OUT OF PEER REVIEWED, RESPECTED MEDICAL JOURNALS.

SO HOW'S MY TIME, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME HERE.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE.

MY POINT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO HERE IS.

I BELIEVE THAT CARLSBAD NEEDS TO, WELL, CITIES ALL OVER CALIFORNIA, THE NATION RIGHT NOW, THEY NEED TO STEP UP AND START LEARNING THIS ON THEIR OWN.

AND IF YOU DON'T IF YOU CAN'T DO THIS YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, THEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPOINT ANYBODY.

YOU'RE GOING TO APPOINT ANYBODY ON YOUR STAFF, YOU WANT TO GET SOMEBODY A DOCTOR THAT CAN TAKE THIS STUFF DOWN, ANALYZE IT AND THEN ADVISE YOU BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FROM THE FDA.

THEY'RE BROKEN. SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH THE FDA, WITH ALL THE INJURIES, THE LACK OF EFFECTIVENESS. THE FDA SHOULD HAVE BLACK LABELED THIS AND PULLED IT.

NOT LIKE NOW, BUT LIKE HALF A YEAR AGO.

THERE IS ENOUGH INFORMATION TO DO THAT AND IT'S NOT BEING DONE.

SO SOMETHING'S BROKEN WITH THE FDA.

AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT OUR OWN RESIDENTS HERE IN CARLSBAD. SO YOU NEED LOCAL PARTICIPATION IN THIS AT A LOCAL LEVEL.

I TRIED TO DO WITH THE COUNTY.

I JUST SENT A LETTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK AT ONE OF THE COUNTY MEETINGS TO DR.

MCDONALD. AND WHAT I SUGGESTED HE DO IS HE.

I'M OUT OF TIME. BUT.

AND SO WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THAT INFORMATION? I'M GOING TO BE PART OF THE PUBLIC WITH YOU? WHY DON'T YOU? THIS IS ALL YOURS.

WHAT IS YOUR CLERK? GIVE IT TO THAT YOUNG LADY RIGHT THERE.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT, SIR.

YOU CAN CALL ME ANYTIME. OK.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ADEN ABU DAVOS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBER IS MY NAME IS AIDAN ABU DAVOS.

I LIVE OFF MELROSE AVENUE IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, AND I'M IN 11TH GRADE AT PACIFIC RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT HERE IN CARLSBAD.

AND I AM HERE TO SHARE MY PERSPECTIVE AS A YOUNG STUDENT WHO LIVES IN CARLSBAD, WHO WANTS TO SEE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN CARLSBAD.

CARLSBAD CITIZENS HAVE LONG STRUGGLED WITH OUR HOMELESS ISSUES.

WE KNOW IT TAKES A MAJOR EFFORT TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS AND ESPECIALLY TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE CAUGHT IN A DRUG AND ALCOHOL ALCOHOL USE CYCLE.

HOW CITIZENS ARE AFRAID OF CRIME BEING COMMITTED BY HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT OF NECESSITY WHILE THE HOMELESS ARE SUBJECT TO INCREDIBLY LOW LIVING STANDARDS, HUNGER AND EXTREME POVERTY. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020, THE SAN DIEGO TRIBUNE REPORTED THAT CARLSBAD WAS GOING TO CRACK DOWN ON CRIMES COMMITTED BY PEOPLE WITHOUT HOMES AND EVEN MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO CAMP IN PUBLIC SPACES WHILE SEEMING LOGICAL.

IT IS CRIMINALIZING HOW PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES WITHOUT PROPOSING ALTERNATIVES.

WHAT CAN WE EXPECT THE HOMELESS TO DO WHEN THE COST OF LIVING IN CARLSBAD IS 92 PERCENT HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE? WHEN HOUSING IS TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY NINE PERCENT HIGHER THAN NATIONAL AVERAGE AND WHEN THE COST AND WHEN THE MEDIAN HOUSING COST IS 3.92 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO LIVE IN A CAGE OF MENTAL ILLNESS AND ADDICTION.

AND EXPECT THEM TO PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR OWN BOOTSTRAPS.

WE NEED TO OFFER ALTERNATIVES BEFORE PUNISHING OUR VERY OWN PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN CARLSBAD.

I ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO FOCUS MORE ON LOW INCOME HOUSING PROJECTS AND TO INCREASE THE LAND DEDICATED TO HIGH DENSITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

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WE NEED TO OFFER MORE HOUSING SUPPLY.

SO I ASK THAT WE DO NOT TREAT THESE HUMANS AS SOME EXTERNALITY OF CARLSBAD.

BUT AS A PART OF US, AS THEY DESERVE TO BE HELPED AS MUCH AS MUCH AS ANYONE, IF NOT MORE.

SO, PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE HUMANS THAT WE'VE LEFT BEHIND AND DO YOUR VERY BEST TO HELP THEM. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR LISTENING.

THAT IS ALL. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LINDA DANIELS.

MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.

I'M LINDA DANIELS.

I'M A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD FOR NINE YEARS AS OF MAY 1ST, AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SIERRA CLUB HERE IN CARLSBAD AND WITH THE SAN DIEGO BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION COALITION TO CUT GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN CARLSBAD THROUGH ENDORSING BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION.

I MYSELF HAVE COMPLETELY ELECTRIFIED MY HOME.

AS OF LAST WEEK, OK, I PUT IN A ELECTRIC FURNACE.

I PUT IT IN THE WATER PUMP WATER HEATER, AND I HAVE PUT IN AN INDUCTION STOVE.

I HAVE ASTHMA. AND SINCE I'VE DONE THAT, MY ASTHMA HAS GOTTEN BETTER BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT TO THE GAS LEAKS IN YOUR HOUSE, THEY JUST DO.

IT'S NEVER GOING TO, EVEN IF YOU SHUT IT OFF, THERE'S STILL GAS LEAKING, OK? I HAVE AN ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION IN MY HOME.

I'VE SOLAR ON MY ROOF AND I DRIVE AN ELECTRIC CAR.

I'M WALKING THE TALK.

ALL THE RECENT ARTICLES, THE NEWS HAVE SPOKEN OF GAS LEAKS AT HOME, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING YOUR STOVE.

THERE IS GAS ESCAPING.

AND SINCE I HAVE ASTHMA AND I HAD TO STOP THE GAS LEAKS, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE PASS A CITY ORDINANCE. MUCH LIKE THE CITIES OF ENCINITAS AND SOLANA BEACH HAVE DONE LAST YEAR, ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION BE GAS FREE.

WE DON'T NEED THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF GAS GOING INTO NEW HOMES.

WE NEED RETROFITS AND REFURBISHMENTS ALSO TO CHANGE TO ELECTRIC APPLIANCES WHEN THEY'RE DOING GAS.

WE'RE DOING UPGRADES, AND THAT'S WHAT SOLANA BEACH PUT INTO THEIRS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BUILD OUT ANYMORE ON SOLANA BEACH THAT THEY FOCUS MORE ON RETROFITS AND REFURBISHMENT.

THERE IS ALREADY ONE WONDERFUL ELECTRIC COMPLEX WHERE AT THE END OF ROOSEVELT HERE CALLED LAGUNA ROW, AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT BUILT THE DEVELOPERS SAID HE SAVED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BY GOING ALL ELECTRIC.

SO IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF MONEY.

IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE STILL THINK AND THEY WERE TRAINED VERY WELL IN THE 70S THAT GAS, NATURAL GAS IS WONDERFUL.

WELL, THERE'S NOTHING NATURAL ABOUT GAS, IT'S FULL OF METHANE AND NITROUS OXIDE.

OK. SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT DOING SOME REACH CODES AND SOME ORDINANCES FOR BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION HERE IN CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT TAKES US TO OUR 15 MINUTES, THE REST OF THE SPEAKERS CAN BE PLACED AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. OK.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

MR. BLACKBURN IS OR MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN HAS ASKED FOR ITEM THREE TO BE PULLED.

ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED? SEEING EVERYBODY'S SHAKING THEIR HEADS, NO, THEN WE COULD HAVE A MOTION ON ONE, TWO, FOUR AND FIVE. MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THREE. SECON., PLEASE VOTE.

[3. SALE OF 11 CITY-OWNED AFFORDABLE UNITS TO LOWER-INCOME QUALIFIED HOUSEHOLDS SELECTED THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESALE PROGRAM]

ITEM THREE IS THE SALE OF 11 CITY OWNED AFFORDABLE UNITS TO LOWER INCOME QUALIFIED HOUSEHOLDS SELECTED THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESALE PROGRAM.

THE REASON I ASKED FOR THIS TO BE PULLED IS I'VE BEEN ASKED SOME QUESTIONS AND I DIDN'T HAVE DETAILED ANSWERS FOR THEM.

I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR TUTORING ME YESTERDAY AND GIVING ME THE ANSWERS, BUT I WANT TO ASK THEM PUBLICLY SO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY CAN HEAR THE ANSWERS.

I FIGURE IF I DIDN'T KNOW, THEN THERE MIGHT BE OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS AS WELL. AND IT'S THESE YOU WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY TELL US WHAT THIS IS, SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN I'LL ASK MY QUESTIONS, PLEASE.

SO ITEM NUMBER THREE IS THE SALE OF THE 11 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS TO QUALIFIED LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS SELECTED THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE RESALE PROGRAM.

BACK IN 2018, THE CITY HAD BEGUN PURCHASING THESE UNITS USING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS AND HOUSING TRUST FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO SAVE THEM FROM BEING SOLD TO MARKET RATE. THESE UNITS WERE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED BY A PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL BUILDER WITH FULFILLING THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENT, SO THE CITY HAD PURCHASED THEM.

WE HAVE 11 IN OUR INVENTORY CURRENTLY, AND IN DECEMBER OF 2020, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD

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SO WE ARE BRINGING THIS ITEM TO COUNCIL TODAY TO BE ABLE TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF THESE UNITS AND ALSO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SALES TRANSACTION.

COULD YOU? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN THESE WERE BUILT, THEY CAME WITH A 30 YEAR CONDITION THAT THEY COULD ONLY GO TO LOW INCOME BUYERS.

THESE ARE NOT 30 YEARS OLD.

HOW DOES IT WORK IF THEY WANT TO BE SOLD SOONER THAN THE 30 YEARS? SO THESE ARE NOT 30 YEAR OLD UNITS.

THESE UNITS WERE BUILT IN TWO THOUSAND FIVE.

SO THERE IS A 30 YEAR RESTRICTION ON THEM UNITS THAT ARE WANTING TO HOMEOWNERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SELL WITHIN THE 15 YEAR PERIOD.

THEY CAN THEY MUST SELL TO A LOWER INCOME QUALIFIED HOUSEHOLD.

AFTER YEAR 16 IF THEY WANT TO SELL, THE CITY HAS THE OPTION TO PURCHASE THE UNITS FIRST.

IF THE CITY WAIVES ITS OPTION, THEN THE HOMEOWNER MAY SELL AT MARKET RATE.

SO WHEN WE PURCHASE THESE UNITS, THESE UNITS, WERE UNDER THESE GUIDELINES OR THIS POLICY.

SO IF SOMEBODY STICKS WITH IT FOR 16 YEARS, THEN THEY CAN SELL THE HOME AT WHATEVER THE GOING RATE IS FOR THAT PARTICULAR HOME.

DO I UNDERSTAND, THOUGH, THAT BECAUSE THE CITY HELPED THEM GET WHERE THEY ARE, THAT ANY EQUITY THAT THAT'S MADE AT THE END OF THE SALE IS SPLIT 50 50 BETWEEN THE RESIDENT AND THE CITY? IT'S ABOUT 50 50 EVERY, IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE SITUATION, IT'S ABOUT 50.

SOMETIMES IT COULD BE A 60 40 SPLIT, BUT WE DO LOOK AT IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

BUT 50 IS A GOOD GENERAL NUMBER, YES.

AND IF THEY SELL IT PRIOR TO THAT 15TH YEAR, THEN THEY DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY ON THE PROPERTY, THEY JUST HAVE TO SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE AT THE LOWER INCOME LEVEL? IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S ACCURATE.

OK. AND WHEN WE DECIDE TO RESELL IT, SO WHEN WE BUY THESE BACK AND WE OWN THEM AGAIN AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHO'S GOING TO LIVE IN IT, IS THERE A PRIORITY LIST? HOW DOES THAT WORK TO PEOPLE WHO WORK IN CARLSBAD OR ALREADY LIVE IN CARLSBAD? DO THEY HAVE PRIORITY? THERE IS NO PRIORITY FOR THOSE THAT LIVE IN CARLSBAD, THE BASELINE ELIGIBILITY IS THAT THOSE APPLYING FOR THIS PROGRAM NEED TO BE SAN DIEGO COUNTY RESIDENTS.

WE DID LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION, BUT WE WERE ADVISED THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO VIOLATE ANY FAIR HOUSING ACTS AND.

WE TOOK THE GUIDELINES BEFORE THEY WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL TO THE DFEH FOR CONSULTATION TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE ANY CLAIMS ON ANY FAIR HOUSING VIOLATIONS. SO IT'S FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM SEVERAL RESIDENTS, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF 120000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, BUT A LOT OF THEM SEEM TO THINK THAT THESE 11 UNITS, WE HAVE MANY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF APPLICATIONS FOR THEM.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED, AND THEY THOUGHT THAT THOSE UNITS SHOULD GO TO PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE IN CARLSBAD, HAVE FAMILY AND CARLSBAD OR WORK IN CARLSBAD.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO THAT? THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER.

THERE'S A CONCERN THAT IF WE WERE TO GIVE LOCAL PREFERENCES TO CARLSBAD RESIDENTS, IT COULD HAVE A DISCRIMINATORY IMPACT BECAUSE OUR POPULATION MAY NOT SPECIFICALLY MIRROR THAT OF THE COUNTY AND WE NEED TO AVOID ANY KIND OF DISCRIMINATORY IMPACT TO AVOID ANY CLAIMS. OK.

AND THE MONEY THAT WE PURCHASE THESE WITH THAT COMES FROM CDBG MONEY? THE MAJORITY OF THESE UNITS, THE 10 UNITS WERE PURCHASED WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS, EXCEPT FOR ONE WHICH WAS PURCHASED WITH HOUSING TRUST FUNDS.

SO WHEN WE PURCHASE THEM BACK NOW, DO WE STILL USE CDBG MONEY? COULD YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION? SO WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY BUILT, THEY WERE BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER.

BUT WHEN WE'RE BUYING THEM BACK NOW OR IF WE CHOOSE, IF WE VOTE TO DO THAT TODAY, THEN THAT CDBG MONEY THAT'S BEING USED TO BUY THOSE BACK NOW? SO THE ACTION TODAY THAT WE'RE ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF THESE UNITS WHEN WE HAD PURCHASED THEM.

WE DID USE CDBG FUNDS.

OK, YEAH, OK.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AND I THANK THE PUBLIC FOR CALLING ME AND ASKING ME THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE ANSWER.

SO IT FORCED ME TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND I'VE LEARNED FROM IT AS WELL, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ANSWER THOSE.

AND WITH THAT INFORMATION, UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

OH, PLEASE. RECENTLY, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEWS HERE LOCALLY, NOT NECESSARILY IN

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IS THAT ALLOWED HERE IN CARLSBAD? ABSOLUTELY NOT. THESE UNITS ARE MEANT FOR LOW INCOME ELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLDS.

OK, GO AHEAD, MR. BLACKBURN.

MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAD MY REQUEST TO SPEAK ABOUT ON, SO IF I MAY DO SO.

THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAVE THIS NEW.

WE CAN GO BACK TO HANDS IF WE WANT.

THAT WORKED PRETTY WELL.

I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT HERE AND AND JUST TALK ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE. FIRST OF ALL, I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO MOVE HERE WHEN I WAS IN 1982 AND PURCHASED MY FIRST HOME IN CARLSBAD, AND I DID SO WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD THAT HAD A FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS PROGRAM BACK THEN.

AND FHA, I THINK, DID A THREE PERCENT MORTGAGE AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD ASSISTED OR PAID IN FULL THE CLOSING COST.

AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME TO GET ON THE HOUSING LADDER.

AND SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS STILL AROUND, ALTHOUGH IT'S AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT MAKE IT PROBABLY MORE PROBLEMATIC IF YOU LIVE IN CARLSBAD AND TRY AND APPLY THAT PROGRAM. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY MAYBE DEAL WITH IN GOAL SETTING OR RESTART, BECAUSE IT'S SUPER HELPFUL TO DO THAT TOO.

WE'VE HAD A FINANCIAL REPORT MAYBE THREE WEEKS AGO, AND IN THAT FINANCIAL REPORT, I THINK IT WAS 31 PERCENT HOUSING APPRECIATION IN ONE YEAR WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE 20 PERCENT.

HOWEVER, THE NUMBERS WERE THEY WERE OVER 50 PERCENT IN TWO YEARS.

AND I NOTE THAT IN OUR THE TOTALITY OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM, WHICH IS MADE UP OF SEVERAL ELEMENTS, ABOUT 85 TO 90 PERCENT OF THOSE UNITS ARE RENTAL UNITS.

AND YOU KNOW, THE GOAL WOULD BE, I THINK PERSONALLY HERE IS TO HAVE ALL LEVELS OF INCOME AND ALL PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN CARLSBAD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE APPRECIATION AND THE EQUITY THAT HAPPENS IN REAL ESTATE OVER TIME.

AND SOMETIMES IT GOES DOWN, BUT OVER TIME IT DOES GO UP.

AND SO I'M CERTAINLY INTERESTED TO WORK ON A WAY TO CREATE A RATIO THAT'S HIGHER FOR KIND OF OWNER OCCUPIED FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS AND LOW AND EXTREMELY LOW HOME BUYERS SO THEY CAN SHARE IN THAT WEALTH THAT WE ENJOY BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T, WE MAKE THE GAP WIDER.

SO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE HOMES GET WEALTHIER AND WEALTHIER AND WEALTHIER, THOSE OF US AND THOSE WHO DON'T ARE LEFT FURTHER BEHIND AND RENT GOES UP AND COSTS GO UP, BUT THEY DON'T ACHIEVE THAT EQUITY PIECE.

SO I'D LIKE JUST TO SPEND TIME ON THAT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND FUTURE COUNCILS PROBABLY TO TAKE TIME ON THAT AND ADDRESS THAT.

IT'S FABULOUS THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF BASIC NEEDS OF SHELTER.

BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN DO BETTER AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD REALLY, REALLY WORK IN TERMS OF CREATING MORE HOMEOWNERS.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS PROGRAM.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE EQUITY PIECE IS THERE IN TERMS OF A SHARED ALLOCATION AS WE GO ON. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A WHOLE LOT MORE UNITS.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA YES.

THANK YOU. I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS REALLY BRIEF.

I JUST WANTED TO APPLAUD THE WORK OF OUR STAFF AND THE DECISIONS OF OUR COUNCIL, REALLY OUR LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY OVER THE YEARS THAT WE'VE SET UP THIS PROGRAM, THAT WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM AND THEN IT'S WORKING WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

THAT'S IT.

AND IF I COULD JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF A RECORD KEEPING, COULD THE TWO OF YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES? NANCY MELANDER, SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER.

AND I'M MANDY MILLS, THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

PLEASE VOTE. OK.

THAT ITEM THREE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[6. REGULATING POLITICAL AND NONCOMMERCIAL SIGNS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY]

YEAH, AND MAKING THE PRESENTATION TODAY AS OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MR. GEOFF MURPHY, ALONG WITH ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CINDY MCMAHON.

THANK YOU, MR. CHADWICK AND FOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU IN PERSON.

SO AS WAS SAID, THIS IS A REQUEST THAT INCLUDES AN AMENDMENT NOT ONLY TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE, BUT ALSO COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER SIXTY FIVE TO PROHIBIT SIGNS WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. NOW, AS SHOWN IN YOUR EXHIBITS, THREE AND FOUR OF THE STAFF REPORT MORE WHICH PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON WHERE SIGNS ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN OUR PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.

GENERALLY, SIGNS CAN BE ONLY BE SIX SQUARE FEET AND SIDES, WHICH IS BASICALLY 24 BY 36 INCHES IN SIZE.

THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF SIGNS ALLOWED IN OUR PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND FOR A

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FIRST, WHILE THE CITY HAS PREPARED EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL, STAFF HAS SPENT SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES EACH CAMPAIGN SEASON REMOVING AND RETURNING UNPERMITTED OR ILLEGAL SIGNS.

DURING THE 2020 ELECTION, STAFF REMOVED MORE THAN 150 SIGNS FOR VARIOUS CODE REASONS.

THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE SIGN MESSAGING.

UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT, WE CAN ONLY REGULATE TIME, PLACE AND MANNER.

WE CANNOT REGULATE THE SIGNS MESSAGE.

DURING PAST ELECTIONS, PARTICULARLY IN 2020, THE CITY RECEIVED NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS ABOUT NEGATIVE OR ANTI CANDIDATE SIGNS BECAUSE THE MESSAGE WAS CONSIDERED PROTECTED SPEECH.

THE SIGNS REMAINED.

THIRDLY, AND AS YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED, OUR RIGHT OF WAY OFTEN GETS CONGESTED WITH NUMEROUS AND COMPETING SIGNS DURING ELECTIONS, WHICH CAN BE DISTRACTING AND UNSIGHTLY.

LASTLY, SIGNS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY CAN ALSO BE A SAFETY HAZARD, ESPECIALLY IF THEY BLOCK THE LINE OF SIGHT OF MOTORISTS.

ALSO, THERE IS A CONCERN OF THE SAFETY OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTUALLY INSTALLING THE SIGNS, PARTICULARLY ALONG HIGH SPEED, HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADS.

WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING IS TO PROHIBIT SIGNS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, ON CITY BUILDINGS AND ON CITY FACILITIES, STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING CHANGES TO CITY CODES REGARDING A PERSON'S RIGHT TO INSTALL SIGNS ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY OR A PERSON HOLDING A SIGN OR INSTALLING SIGNS IN TRADITIONAL PUBLIC AREAS.

THESE ARE THE SIGNS THAT ARE PLACED IN AREAS LIKE A PARK SO LONG AS A PERSON IS WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THAT SIGN.

THESE ALLOWANCES WILL CONTINUE.

STAFF DID RESEARCH THE OTHER CITIES IN THE REGION TO SEE HOW MANY ALLOWED SIGNS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND FOUND THAT ONLY FOUR, INCLUDING CARLSBAD, ALLOW IT.

MAKING THE RECOMMENDED EDITS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WILL ALIGN THE CITY WITH MOST OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE COUNTY.

AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION PROHIBITING SIGNS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AS REFERENCED IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

OK, I'M BEING TOLD THERE'S NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM? SO I HAVE ONE.

IN AN ELECTION, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE SETTING ON THIS DAIS HAVE ARE FAIRLY WELL KNOWN.

DOES THIS NOT TAKE AWAY A RIGHT OF SOMEBODY WHO'S WANTING TO CHALLENGE ONE OF THESE SEATS OR RUN FOR ONE OF THESE SEATS IN ORDER TO ADVERTISE WHO THEY ARE? I WOULD SAY NO.

THERE IS OTHER WAYS AND WITHIN OUR CODE TO ALLOW THOSE SIGNS TO BE PUT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AGAIN, PEOPLE CAN'T HOLD SIGNS.

THIS IS ONLY ALLOWING THE PROHIBITION OF ALL SIGNS ALL NOT JUST CANDIDATE SIGNS, BUT ALL SIGNS WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF- WAY.

SO DEFINE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

IT'S THAT AREA, USUALLY ALONG ROADS THAT IDENTIFY WHERE THE ROAD AND MEDIAN AND AREA TRAVEL. IS IT FIVE FEET, 10 FEET, 20 FEET, 50 FEET? IT VARIES FROM AREA TO AREA.

SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE WIDER, SOMETIMES IT'S SMALLER.

SO HOW WOULD SOMEBODY WHO IS, I WOULD SAY, MUCH NEWER THAN ONE OF US SITTING ON THE DAIS KNOW WHETHER IT IS FOUR FEET OR 50 FEET? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. USUALLY IT'S THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK IS THE EDGE OF OR WITHIN THREE TO FIVE FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK.

BUT THAT'S A QUESTION THAT WE OFTEN GET DURING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASONS TODAY, WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO PUT THE WHERE THE SIGNS GO IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO WE GUIDE THEM DEPENDING ON WHAT, WHAT ROAD SEGMENT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THE SIGNS. SO TO ME, IT WOULD SEEM LIKE THE FAIRNESS QUESTION WOULD BE ANYTHING.

PICK A NUMBER THREE FEET BEHIND THE CONCRETE, WHICH WOULD NOT BLOCK, YOU KNOW, BLOCK PUBLIC VIEW. WHY WOULD THAT NOT BE ALLOWED? YOU'RE SAYING, BUT ALLOW IT STILL WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, JUST.

I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S THREE FEET OR 50 FEET.

I'M MAYBE I'M NOT FOLLOWING THE QUESTION, WELL, YOU MENTIONED PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, IN PUBLIC, RIGHT AWAY. I REALIZE THERE'S USUALLY THREE TO FOUR FEET MINIMUM AND IT COULD BE AS MUCH AS 50 FEET, DEPENDING ON THE ROADWAY.

SEE, I'M TRYING TO, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SETTING ON THE DAIS, I, FOR ONE THING, SIGNS IN THE ELECTION YEAR ARE VERY, VERY VALUABLE.

IT'S ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL TOOLS SOMEBODY HAS TO USE AND YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT RIGHT AWAY FROM FUTURE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE.

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SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS HOW WE HANDLE IT TODAY IS WHEN WHEN AN APPLICANT COMES IN TO PROPOSE SIGNS WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

WE ADVISE THEM AS TO DEPENDING ON WHERE THEIR ROAD SEGMENT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THE SIGN. WE WOULD ADVISE THEM EXACTLY WHERE THEY CAN LOCATE THOSE THAT WOULD LIKELY CONTINUE, WHERE IF AN APPLICANT COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I'D LIKE TO PUT UP SOME POLITICAL SIGNS, WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE THE WHERE THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY IS AND ADVISE THEM AS TO WHERE THOSE SIGNS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IF THIS PASSES.

BUT IF WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE, I MEAN, THERE IS NO PERMIT.

YOU JUST HAVE, YOU CAN ALLOW TO PUT THEM ON YOUR PROPERTY.

YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT TO DO THAT.

CORRECT. BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LINE IS.

AND SO WE DO ADVISE FOLKS.

AND AS TO WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY ENDS AND WHERE THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY BEGINS.

AND SO WE WOULD CONTINUE TO ADVISE THEM OF THAT TO SHOW WHERE WHERE IF THEY WANTED TO PUT IT ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHERE THAT WOULD WHERE THAT IS LOCATED.

I JUST THINK I DON'T THINK THIS MEETS THE FAIRNESS TEST.

I UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY ASPECT OF IT.

I UNDERSTAND THE SIGNS, THE SIGN WARS, THE NEGATIVE ADVERTISING BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT FOR 30 YEARS.

BUT I DO THINK THERE'S A FAIRNESS QUESTION FOR OTHER SITTING OUT THERE IN THE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MIGHT WANT TO RUN FOR ELECTION.

I KNOW HOW POWERFUL SIGNS ARE.

AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT FROM THE SITE, DISTANCE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, I UNDERSTAND THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON SIDEWALKS.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON BUILDINGS THAT'S OWNED BY BY THE CITY.

IT SHOULDN'T BE ON FENCES.

BUT I WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE A NUMBER THREE TO WHATEVER FEET BEHIND THE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE CURB LINE THAT YOU COULD PLACE THE SIGN AND STILL MEET EVERYTHING WE'VE REQUESTED. MAYBE NOT THE NEGATIVE MESSAGING, BUT THAT USUALLY WORKS THE OPPOSITE WAY OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY CONVERSATION WOULD BE FOR MY COLLEAGUES.

MR. NORBY, WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

ELECTIONS AND SIGNAGE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT SIGNAGE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND I THINK MORE AND MORE AND MORE, MAYBE PERHAPS THERE'S A TOOL FOR VALID REASONS HERE.

SOMEBODY FINDS THIS TOOL VALUABLE.

MANY, MANY CANDIDATES DO.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S WHY THEY DO IT AND THIS IS GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC SPACE. BUT OTHER TOOLS HAVE KIND OF EMERGED IN THE PUBLIC SPACE OVER THE LAST 15 OR 20 YEARS. AND I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA IS A HUGE, HUGE PLAYER AND EMAILS AND NEWSLETTERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN CAMPAIGNING.

AND I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, IT'S FRUSTRATING.

IT'S CLUTTERY. IT'S YOU GET TO AN INTERSECTION.

THE SIGNS ARE SUPER DENSE AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE AROUND THEM.

AND I'M ALSO, YOU KNOW, AWARE OF WHAT NEIGHBORING CITIES HAVE DONE AND TO TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE. AND I THINK I'D LIKE TO BE KIND OF WHERE THEY ARE ON THE CAMPAIGN IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC SPACE AND THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.

THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA. YES, THANK YOU.

I DEFINITELY HAVE SEEN THE CLUTTER, AND I GUESS I'M A PERSON WHO HAD SIGNS OUT IN 2020 BUT REALLY TRIED TO TRIED TO LIMIT THOSE TO PEOPLE'S OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY.

I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GO.

I DON'T THINK THAT SIGNS ARE A BIG CAMPAIGN TOOL AS MUCH AS THEY USED TO BE FOR REASONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY MENTIONED, INCLUDING THE RISE OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO I DO SEE THAT A LOT OF OTHER AREAS HAVE LESS SIGNS.

THE SIGNS ARE USUALLY PLASTIC BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WEATHERPROOF.

THEY'RE MADE OF THIS POLYSTYRENE LIKE PLASTIC COATED FOAM BOARD, WHICH IS NOT RECYCLABLE.

I LOOKED INTO IT, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GREAT ENVIRONMENTALLY EITHER FOR PEOPLE TO BE PRINTING ALL OF THESE SIGNS AND TO HAVE THEM ALL OVER OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO I DO THINK THAT HAVING A LESS SIGNS LIMITED REALLY JUST TO THESE FEWER AREAS, INCLUDING PEOPLE'S OWN PRIVATE FRONT YARDS AND THEIR OWN PROPERTY IS A BETTER WAY TO GO.

DR. BHAT-PATEL.

I THINK THE COMMENTS MY COLLEAGUES MADE ARE SPOT ON, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OK. MR. BLACKBURN I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD 10 OR 12 YEARS AGO.

I THINK THEY LOOK TRASHY ALL OVER OUR STREETS.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I REMEMBER WATCHING ONE OF THE CANDIDATES PARK HIS CAR AND HIS TWO, 13 OR 14 YEAR OLD KIDS RUNNING OUT INTO THE CENTER MEDIAN ACROSS EL CAMINO REAL TO PUT UP THE SIGNS. THAT WAS WHAT BROUGHT ME FORWARD.

AT THAT TIME, SAY, CAN WE GET RID OF SIGNS? AT THAT TIME, I WON HALF THE BATTLE.

I MADE IT TO WHERE WE CAN'T PUT THEM IN THE CENTER DIVIDER, BUT THEY ARE STILL ALONG THE

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I THINK IT JUST LOOKS SO TRASHY THAT I WELCOME THIS REGULATION, THIS MUNICIPAL CODE, BUT WITH THAT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

SURE I MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION AND INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE, BOTH CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.

AND YOU WANT TO TELL THE ORDINANCE.

YES, THANK YOU. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION ELEVEN POINT FOUR FOUR POINT ZERO SEVEN ZERO TEMPORARY, POLITICAL AND OTHER NONCOMMERCIAL SIGNS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

DR. I SECONDED.

THANK YOU. PLEASE VOTE.

AND IT PASSES FOUR ONE.

[7. ORDINANCE NO. CS-415 – ZONE CHANGE ON TWO PROPERTIES]

TODAY'S VOTE WILL NOT AFFECT THE CHICK FIL A ON MY PROPERTY.

I STILL THINK IN THE FOR APPEARANCE REASONS, I'M GOING TO STEP AWAY.

OK. I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

SO THIS IS AN ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION, IT'S ORDINANCE NUMBER CS DASH FOUR ONE FIVE ZONE CHANGE ON TWO PROPERTIES.

SO MS. BREWER, IF YOU COULD TITLE THE ORDINANCE.

OK, BEAR WITH ME, THIS IS A DOOZY.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A ZONE CHANGE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AND CITYWIDE ZONING MAPS ON TWO PROPERTIES.

APN TWO TEN DASH ONE SEVEN ZERO DASH ZERO EIGHT AND ZERO NINE, TOTALING ZERO POINT EIGHT NINE ACRES FROM PLANNED INDUSTRIAL PM WITH A COMMERCIAL VISITOR SERVING OVERLAY TO COMMERCIAL TOURIST WITH COMMERCIAL VISITOR SERVING AND QUALIFIED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAYS.

CTQ WITHIN THE MIDDLE TWO SEGMENT OF THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AND LOCAL FACILITIES MANAGEMENT ZONE THREE.

OK, NO SPEAKERS.

WE DO NOT HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

OK A MOTION DOCTOR.

SURE MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AS RECITED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

WE NEED A SECOND, SECOND.

OK. PLEASE VOTE.

AND IT PASSES FOUR AND ONE RECUSED.

WE NEED MR. BLACKBURN BACK.

AS WE MOVE ON, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT, BUT NEXT IS DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY

[8. POSSIBLE TRANSITION OF CITY CLERK POSITION FROM ELECTED TO APPOINTED]

THE POSSIBLE TRANSITION OF CITY CLERK POSITION FROM ELECTED TO APPOINTED.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT MR. CHADWICK INTRODUCTIONS GREAT.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION IS OUR LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES DIRECTOR SHEILA COBIAN SHEILA.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS AS A RESULT OF A MOTION BY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 31ST OF LAST YEAR FOLLOWING THE RESIGNATION OF CITY CLERK BARBARA ENGELSON, COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT STAFF RETURN WITH INFORMATION RELATING TO THE CITY CLERK POSITION BECOMING AN APPOINTED EMPLOYEE RATHER THAN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

JUST I WANT TO TRY AND RAISE THIS SEAT A LITTLE.

THAT'S A LITTLE BETTER. THANK YOU.

STAFF IS ASKING THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS THE MATTER AND PROVIDE DIRECTION REGARDING PLACEMENT OF THE QUESTION ON THE JUNE PRIMARY ELECTION BALLOT FOR VOTER CONSIDERATION.

STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT EVERY CITY HAVE A CITY CLERK.

HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT CITY CLERKS BE ELECTED FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IN ORDER TO RUN FOR CITY CLERK.

YOU MUST BE 18 YEARS OLD.

A REGISTERED VOTER OBTAINED THE DESIGNATION OF CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL CLERK OR HAVE TWO YEARS WORK EXPERIENCE IN BUSINESS OR PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND A BACHELOR'S DEGREE.

THE GOVERNMENT CODE STATES THAT THE DUTIES OF A CITY CLERK SHALL INCLUDE KEEPING AN ACCURATE RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY, RECORDING, PUBLISHING AND CERTIFYING CITY RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES, KEEPING CUSTODY OF THE CITY SEAL AND ADMINISTERING OATHS OR AFFIRMATIONS, AND TAKING AND CERTIFYING AFFIDAVITS AND DISPOSITION DEPOSITIONS RELATING TO CITY AFFAIRS FOR USE IN COURT AND ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDINGS.

IN ADDITION TO THE DUTIES REQUIRED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE, CITY CLERKS ALSO SERVE AS THE ELECTIONS OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY AS THE ELECTIONS OFFICIAL.

A CITY CLERK MUST BE NEUTRAL AT ALL TIMES AND WELL-VERSED IN THE CALIFORNIA ELECTIONS CODE THAT GOVERNS EVERY ASPECT OF ELECTIONS FROM THE ELECTION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE

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CLERKS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLECTING AND MAINTAINING THE STATEMENTS OF ECONOMIC INTERESTS FOR THE CITY.

FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD THAT MEANS MAINTAINING RECORDS FOR OVER FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FILERS. THE CITY CLERK IS ALSO THE OFFICIAL RESPONSIBLE FOR NOTIFICATION COLLECTION AND REVIEW OF ALL CAMPAIGN STATEMENTS.

THE CLERK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RESPONDING TO ALL PUBLIC RECORDS ACT REQUESTS.

LAST YEAR ALONE, THE CLERK'S OFFICE PROCESSED OVER SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS. THE CLERK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESSING ALL CLAIMS, SUBPOENAS AND SUMMONS, PREPARING AND DISTRIBUTING COUNCIL AGENDAS, OF COURSE, AND MAINTAINING ALL CITY VITAL RECORDS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

ALTHOUGH ALL THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES I HAVE OUTLINED ARE ASSIGNED TO THE CITY CLERK BY LAW IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THE CITY CLERK POSITION IS CEREMONIAL IN NATURE, AND THE MAJORITY OF ALL THOSE DUTIES HAVE BEEN DELEGATED TO THE CITY CLERK, SERVICES MANAGER AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE. IN PREPARING THIS ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, STAFF SURVEYED THE CITIES IN CALIFORNIA, THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIES IN CALIFORNIA, NEARLY 80 PERCENT HAVE TRANSITIONED TO APPOINTED CITY CLERKS.

DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE POSITION IS OPERATIONAL AND TECHNICAL IN NATURE AND NOT A PUBLIC POLICY MAKING POSITION OF THE CITIES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

ONLY THREE REMAIN WITH A PART TIME CLERK THAT WOULD BE OCEANSIDE NATIONAL CITY AND, OF COURSE, CARLSBAD.

IN ADDITION, THE CLERK OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTY REGISTRAR OF VOTERS IS OUR APPOINTED EMPLOYEES WHO ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE OF A CITY CLERK. ALL OF THESE POSITIONS ARE APPOINTED RATHER THAN ELECTED, IN LARGE PART TO THE EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE NECESSARY TO ADMINISTER THE WORK OF A CLERK'S OFFICE.

EDUCATION WISE, IT TAKES APPROXIMATELY 300 HOURS OF TRAINING TO OBTAIN THE CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL CLERK DESIGNATION FROM THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MUNICIPAL CLERKS, AND IS TYPICALLY A REQUIREMENT TO OBTAIN THE POSITION OF APPOINTED CITY CLERK.

FACTORS IN FAVOR OF AN APPOINTED CLERK INCLUDE THE FACT THAT IF A PERFORMANCE ISSUE ARISES, IT CAN BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY RATHER THAN THROUGH AN ELECTION RECALL OR RECALL EFFORT. CITIES CAN SET QUALIFICATION CRITERIA FOR APPOINTED POSITIONS, REQUIRING APPLICANTS TO DEMONSTRATE THE REQUISITE SKILLS.

EXPERIENCE STATEWIDE HAS SHOWN THAT UNQUALIFIED CITY CLERKS CAN BE DISRUPTIVE AND DAMAGING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS.

ANOTHER ADVANTAGE OF THE CLERK BEING APPOINTED IS THE AVOIDANCE OF THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY IN ELECTIONS.

OPPONENTS OF CONVERTING THE CLERK TO AN APPOINTED POSITION ARGUE THAT THE ELECTION PROCESS PROVIDES MORE CHECKS AND BALANCES AND ESTABLISHES A HIGHER LEVEL OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY. HOWEVER, SINCE 1970 IN CARLSBAD, NO CITY CLERK HAS HAD ANYONE RUN AGAINST THEM, AND THE ELECTED CLERKS HAVE NEVER HAD THE CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL CLERK DESIGNATION.

WHEN ELECTED, THEY OBTAINED THAT AFTER THE FACT.

TO PLACE THE ITEM ON THE JUNE BALLOT FOR VOTER CONSIDERATION, THE ROV HAS PROVIDED AN ESTIMATE OF EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND TO ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.

SHOULD COUNCIL WISH TO PROCEED, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL TRANSFER MONEY FROM THE CONTINGENCY FUND TO THE CITY CLERK BUDGET IF THE BALLOT MEASURE IS SUCCESSFUL.

THE ANNUAL COST SAVINGS OF THE CITY CLERK POSITION, INCLUDING SALARY AND BENEFITS, IS APPROXIMATELY FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO SHOULD THESE COUNCIL WISH TO PROCEED WITH THE BALLOT MEASURE TO TRANSITION THE CLERK POSITION TO THAT OF AN APPOINTED POSITION.

WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU ADOPT THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE AND ALSO INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ONLY BE EFFECTIVE UPON THE PASSAGE OF THE BALLOT MEASURE THAT WOULD AMEND VARIOUS SECTIONS OF THE CODE RELATING TO THE POSITION OF CITY CLERK. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

THAT IS CORRECT. OK, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? WAIT, A SECOND, I GOT TO GET THIS.

OK, IT LOOKS LIKE DR.

BHAT-PATEL, WERE YOU FIRST QUESTION.

SURE, I CAN GO FIRST.

YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THIS, AND I'D LOVE TO ASK THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH REGARDS TO WHAT ACTION WE'RE TAKING TONIGHT.

BASICALLY, THIS PARTICULAR ACTION THAT WE'RE TAKING WOULD GIVE THE VOICE TO THE VOTERS TO

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IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

OK. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE MODELS OF HIRED POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY, CAN YOU BREAK THOSE DOWN AND THEN WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WELL? OK, SO 15 OF THE 18 CITY CLERKS IN THE COUNTY ARE APPOINTED VERSUS ELECTED, AND OF THOSE, 15 12 ARE APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND THREE BY THEIR CITY COUNCILS.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND LET'S SEE, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT RIGHT NOW, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE HAS THE ABILITY TO HANDLE ALL OF THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU JUST OUTLINED THAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE CITY CLERK.

OUR CITY CLERK HAS REALLY BEEN JUST A FIGUREHEAD SINCE 2012.

OK. AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THE TRAINING THAT FOLKS NEED TO HAVE THEY ACQUIRED AFTER THEY WERE ELECTED, THIS IS CORRECT.

OK. AND SO THOSE WOULD BE MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW, I DO HAVE COMMENTS, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

GREAT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I NOTED THAT WHEN I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AND AND COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL JUST MENTIONED HIRED AND THE WORD THAT YOU'RE USING IS APPOINTED AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NOW THE POSITIONS ELECTED.

BUT I THINK IT'S A TECHNICAL TERM THAT THE PERSON WILL BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER VERSUS OUTRIGHT HIRED.

I FEEL THAT THOSE TWO TERMS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE.

IN THIS INSTANCE, IT WOULD BE HIRED APPOINTED.

OK, OK, GREAT.

SO SO PUTTING, WE WILL BE PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT AND THE WORD WOULD BE TO BE APPOINTED BY BY THE CITY MANAGER.

BUT REALLY, IN ESSENCE, IT'S IT'S TO BE HIRED.

SO A STAFF POSITION.

AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE OUR ELECTED CITY CLERK DEPARTED. AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN AUGUST.

YES. OK, SO AUGUST 2021, OUR LAST ELECTED CITY CLERK LEFT AND WE HAVE HAD STAFF FILLING IN AND TAKING OVER THOSE DUTIES.

HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE? YES, BECAUSE IN ESSENCE, THE THE THE CITY CLERK WOULD ATTEND THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND PERFORM OATHS OF OFFICE.

THE WORK OF PREPARING THE MINUTES, THE AGENDA PACKET AND EVERYTHING WAS PERFORMED BY STAFF AND STAFF CAN CERTAINLY DO OATHS OF OFFICE AND ATTEND COUNCIL MEETINGS.

GREAT. GREAT. SO NOTHING HAS FALLEN THROUGH THE CRACKS, SO WE'RE DOING ALL THE WORK.

THERE'S JUST NO CEREMONIAL.

I THINK THAT CEREMONIAL NATURE PERSON WHO WHO IS IN FRONT OF THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. OK, GREAT.

AND I ALSO TOOK NOTE THAT YOU SAID THAT THE THE ELECTED CITY CLERK HAS BEEN A FIGUREHEAD MORE OR LESS SINCE 2012.

YES. WITH ALL OF THE WORK BEING DONE BY STAFF, CORRECT? AND THEN ON THAT ONE SLIDE WHERE YOU HAD THE COSTS, I NOTED THAT IT WOULD RANGE FROM EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND TO ONE HUNDRED FIFTEEN THOUSAND TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.

BUT THE SAVINGS WOULD BE AND IT DIDN'T SAY ANNUAL, BUT YOU SAID ANNUAL FORTY THOUSAND PER YEAR THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE SAVING.

SO WE'D RECOUP THAT IN TWO YEARS, TWO AND A HALF.

CORRECT? YES. OK, GREAT.

THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. NORBY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I BELIEVE ALL MY QUESTIONS WERE ASKED BY MY COLLEAGUES.

MR. BLACKBURN, I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT, BUT LET ME JUST BE CLEAR.

HOW MUCH DID THE CITY CLERK GET PAID ANNUAL OR PER MONTH? ABOUT FORTY THOUSAND THAT INCLUDES BENEFITS, CAR ALLOWANCE AND SALARY.

THAT'S PER YEAR. YES.

PER YEAR, IT'S NOT A VERY HIGH PAYING JOB.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING TODAY IS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY IT'S OK TO APPOINT OR HIRE VERSUS TO ELECT.

BUT IF WE AND IF THE RESIDENTS CHOOSE TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO APPOINT OR HIRE, WELL, THAT PERSON STILL BE A FORTY THOUSAND DOLLAR A YEAR JOB.

OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE FILLED WITH WITH STAFF? IT WOULD BE FILLED WITH EXISTING STAFF.

WOULD BE IS WHAT I ANTICIPATE, CORRECT? OK, I THINK YOU ANSWERED. I JUST WASN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR.

THANK YOU. OK.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OK, WITH THAT, THEN WE WE NEED A MOTION.

MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION AND INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, SECOND CITY ORDINANCE.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING VARIOUS SECTIONS OF AND ADDING A SECTION TO THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING THE POSITION OF CITY CLERK TO TAKE EFFECT ONLY IF THE VOTERS AT THE MUNICIPAL ELECTION ON JUNE 7TH, 2022 APPROVE MAKING THE OFFICE OF CITY CLERK APPOINTIVE.

AND PLEASE VOTE. AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUS.

[9. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL POLICY STATEMENT REGARDING CITYWIDE DATA GOVERNANCE AND MANAGEMENT]

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YES, SIR. MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR TEAM OF DAVES.

WE'VE GOT CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER DAVID GRAHAM AS WELL AS DAVID DAVE, WHO IS OUR BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE AND ANALYTICS MANAGER DAVID [INAUDIBLE].

GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT [INAUDIBLE] HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IN PERSON FOR THE TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE.

SO WE DID OVER ELEVEN HUNDRED VACCINATION SURVEYS AND ATTESTATIONS.

WE DID OVER SIX HUNDRED TELECOMMUTING APPLICATIONS.

ALL OF THESE WOULD HAVE BEEN A PAPER PROCESS.

AND YET, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH DATA, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DIGITAL SAVING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY.

BUT THAT TIME AND MONEY THAT WAS SAVED WAS NOT JUST FOR THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS.

IT INFORMED AN OVERALL SET OF DATA AND INFORMATION THAT WE'VE USED FOR OTHER THINGS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE GETTING READY AT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL ON HAVING DISCRETIONARY LEAVE TO DEPLOY A NEW PROJECT THERE AGAIN, SAVING TIME AND MONEY, BUT CONSISTENTLY INFORMING THIS APPROACH TO BETTER DATA, BETTER DATA MANAGEMENT AND MORE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN USE FOR PROJECTS AND MORE QUICKLY DEPLOYED DIGITAL SOLUTIONS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE NOW.

CONSISTENT WITH THAT CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT APPROACH, YOU AUTHORIZE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A CITYWIDE DATA POLICY AND PROGRAM BACK IN OCTOBER, AND NOW YOU'RE CONSIDERING A MULTI TIER APPROACH BASED UPON THE AUTHORIZATION FIRST WITH COUNCIL POLICY NINETY TWO, WHICH IS THE BROAD UMBRELLA OF YOUR POLICY DIRECTION REGARDING HOW WE GOVERN AND MANAGE DATA, THEN IMPLEMENT IT BY A CITY MANAGER ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER AND THEN ALL ROLLED UP INTO A CONSOLIDATED DATA POLICY MANUAL.

WHAT IS IN THAT DATA POLICY? WELL, FIRST, IT'S THE BACKGROUND HOW WE GOT HERE.

BUT THEN YOUR POLICY STATEMENT OF OBJECTIVES, INCLUDING USING DATA FOR COMMUNITY AND GOVERNMENT GOVERNANCE AND MANAGEMENT CONNECTION AND ORGANIZATIONAL VALUE, SECURITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND RESILIENCY.

THERE IS A LOT TO MANAGE AS IT RELATES TO CITY DATA, AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN THINGS OVER TO DAVE VAN [INAUDIBLE] TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF HERE AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE YOU AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT A POLICY BACK IN OCTOBER.

DAVID? THANK YOU, DAVID.

DATA CREATED AND COLLECTED BY THE CITY CONTINUES TO RISE AT A RAPID PACE SINCE WE LAST CAME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL IN OCTOBER.

WE HAD A HALF A TERABYTE INCREASE IN OUR STRUCTURED DATA, A THIRTY TERABYTE INCREASE IN OUR DIGITAL FILES IN TOTAL AND ALSO A TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND FILE INCREASE.

BACK IN OCTOBER, WE PRESENTED A FOUR PILLAR FRAMEWORK FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT AND NOW THAT IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

THOSE FOUR ARE THE CLASSIFICATION AND THE PROTECTION, THE QUALITY AND DATA PUBLICATION PILLARS OF OUR FRAMEWORK.

AND THINKING ABOUT THE THOSE DIFFERENT PILLARS ON TOP OF ALL OF THEM IS THE DATA GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, WHICH I'LL BE CONVENING, WHICH GOES OVER THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES FOR CITYWIDE DATA GOVERNANCE.

ALSO HELPS WITH THE PARTICIPATION IN THE ACQUISITION OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES RELATED TO DATA INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE RESOURCING.

AND REGULARLY REVIEWS THOSE STRATEGIES AND REPORTS ON PROGRESS TO MEET CITY POLICY DATA GOALS. THIS WILL HELP US KIND OF STAY AGILE AND ALSO BE ADAPTABLE AS WE EVOLVE THE POLICY FOR THE DATA NEEDS OF THE CITY.

BUT THINKING ABOUT THE DATA GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE THAT IS YOUR CROSS DEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION AND IMPLEMENTATION ARM OF YOUR CITY COUNCIL DATA POLICY, WHICH SITS ATOP THE ENTIRE FRAMEWORK.

AND WHEN WE CONSIDER THIS PARTICULAR FRAMEWORK, IT HAS BEEN WAS ORIGINALLY AUTHORIZED BACK IN OCTOBER AND NOW IS A PART AND ENSHRINED IN YOUR COUNCIL POLICY BEFORE YOU TODAY.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WAYS THAT THESE TIERS WORK, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE OVERALL POLICY THAT THEN GETS IMPLEMENTED THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER BY THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH GIVES US THE TOOL TO BUILD DATA DRIVEN GOVERNMENT.

WHAT IS THE VALUE HERE? THE VALUE IS A LEGISLATIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE BUY IN FOR A FRAMEWORK AND A CONSISTENT

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IT GIVES CITYWIDE VISIBILITY TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AND DRIVE VALUE FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

IT HELPS US TO ENHANCE DATA QUALITY AND DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS.

AND IT PROVIDES FOR A CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC SERVICES AND ENGAGEMENT.

OVERALL, THIS IS THE MOST TRANSPARENT WAY THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH UNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW WE USE DATA.

SO THE NEXT STEPS, AS I MENTIONED, WOULD BE SHOULD YOU APPROVE THE ITEM TONIGHT, THE CITY MANAGER WOULD ASSIGN AN ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER.

THE DATA GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE WOULD BE CONVENED THIS MONTH.

THE COMPREHENSIVE DATA POLICY MANUAL WOULD BE CREATED AND PUBLISHED.

THE ANNUAL DATA CENSUS WOULD BE CONDUCTED.

WE WOULD KEEP ON TRAINING OUR ENTIRE STAFF REGARDING DATA AND HOW TO USE IT, AND CONSTANTLY LOOK FOR WAYS OF IMPROVING AND EVALUATING AND CHANGING THE WAY THAT WE DEAL WITH DATA TO SUPPORT THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE RECOMMENDATION IS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.

DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS UP FOR QUESTIONS.

I DO HAVE ONE, DAVID.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY CHANGED OF RECENT YEARS IS HOW WE HANDLE THE HOMELESS AND THE DATA THAT I CAN ONLY IMAGINE ALL THE DATA THAT'S BEING GENERATED THERE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HOW WILL THAT WORK WITH WITH THIS POLICY OR HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT? ABSOLUTELY.

SO ANY OF THE DATA ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OF OUR SERVICES, INCLUDING THOSE REGARDING THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION, ARE THOSE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HELP TO ANALYZE, BUT THEN ALSO SUPPORT DEPARTMENTS IN THE VISUALIZATION OF THAT.

AND SO WHEN A PARTICULARLY IT'S SOMETHING LIKE A COUNCIL GOAL WHICH IS RELATED TO THE REDUCTION OF HOMELESSNESS, THOSE ARE THE FIRST TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TO TRY TO PROVIDE WAYS OF BETTER UNDERSTANDING, VISUALIZING AND DEALING WITH THAT DATA.

SO THAT IS DEFINITELY TOP OF THE LIST.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY FINAL COMMENTS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

YES, THANK YOU. I WANTED TO AGAIN THANK STAFF AND AND PREVIOUS COUNCILS AND THIS COUNCIL FOR REALLY FOCUSING ON DATA DRIVEN DECISION MAKING.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TIMELINE THAT THE STAFF SHOWED, IT REALLY HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG THAT WE'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSING AND PUTTING RESOURCES TOWARDS THIS.

BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE DATA THAT'S OUT THERE, THAT'S BEING COLLECTED EVEN JUST WHEN WE'RE GOOGLING, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE PEOPLE USING THAT, YOU KNOW? AND AND FOR US AS A CITY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE SECURITY, BUT ALSO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO USE DATA TO HELP US MAKE BETTER DECISIONS TO IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE HERE AND NOT BE WASTEFUL WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

SO I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT WE'VE GOT SOME CONCRETE MEASURES IN PLACE AND THAT WE'RE BEING VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT OUR DATA ANALYSIS AND THE USE OF THE DATA.

THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU.

WITH THAT A MOTION.

MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM NINE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO ITEM TEN MAYORAL AND DISTRICT ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR APPOINTMENTS OF 19

[10. MAYORAL AND DISTRICT 1, 2, 3 AND 4 APPOINTMENTS OF 19 PRIMARY AND 19 ALTERNATE MEMBERS TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE]

AND SO MR. CHADWICK. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER CHADWICK.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS ITEM IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU TODAY TO SELECT 19 PRIMARY AND 19 ALTERNATE MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR TERMS ENDING IN APRIL 2023 OR UPON COMPLETION OF THE COMMITTEE'S WORK, AS WELL AS TO CONFIRM THE PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE NOMINATIONS MADE BY THE NINE COMMISSIONERS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT TO AID IN THIS PROCESS.

WHEN MAKING YOUR NOMINATIONS TODAY, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE GO IN THE ORDER LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT EXHIBITS, BEGINNING WITH THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENT FOLLOWED BY THE DISTRICT ONE, COUNCIL MEMBER DISTRICT TWO, COUNCIL MEMBER, DISTRICT THREE COUNCIL MEMBER AND DISTRICT FOUR COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINTMENTS.

FOR EACH OF THESE, WE WILL HAVE THE RECOMMENDING COUNCIL MEMBER MAKE THEIR NOMINATION, MAKING SURE TO IDENTIFY WHICH WILL BE THE PRIMARY MEMBERS AND WHICH WILL BE THE ALTERNATE MEMBERS, FOLLOWED BY A VOTE.

AFTER THESE NOMINATIONS ARE MADE AND VOTED UPON, COUNCIL MAY THEN MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE FINAL RESOLUTION, APPOINTING TWO MEMBERS FROM EACH OF THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO SERVE ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ATTACHMENT A TO THAT RESOLUTION, EXHIBIT SIX WILL NEED TO BE MODIFIED TO REFLECT THE RESIGNATION OF ROBERT PROSSER FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION. HIS NAME WILL BE REPLACED WITH THE WORD VACANT.

THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WILL THEN MAKE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT FOR THE ALTERNATE POSITION AT A LATER TIME.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO AT THIS TIME BEGIN THE PROCESS, THE FIRST APPOINTMENT WOULD BE THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENT.

OK, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BEGIN TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES.

I CAN REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT GROWTH AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT

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AND I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN 1994 AFTER THE VOTE BY THE PEOPLE IN 1986 TO DO THIS.

I CAN REMEMBER DEVELOPERS SAYING WE'LL NEVER BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT SOMETHING DEFINITELY HAPPENED, AND HERE WE ARE TODAY.

AND I THINK WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT IS AND WHAT'S MADE CARLSBAD DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CITY, I THINK PRETTY MUCH IN THIS WHOLE STATE IS WE'VE NEVER PLAYED THE SHORT GAME.

WE DON'T MICROMANAGE DAY BY DAY.

WE ALWAYS TRY TO SET A VISION 5, 10, 20 YEARS OUT.

AND IN THE CASE OF OUR FIRST GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, IT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A SUNSET.

BUT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE AT THAT POINT IT WAS ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT NOW WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT, WHERE DO WE WANT TO BE? WHERE DO WE WANT TO BE IN 10, 20, 30 YEARS FROM NOW? AND AS WAS STATED EARLIER ABOUT HOUSING, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED OVER THIS THESE PAST 20, 25 YEARS THAT REALLY NEED THE PUBLIC'S INPUT OR THE CITIZENS INPUT AS TO WHAT YOU WANT THE FUTURE TO BE.

ALSO, I MEAN, HINDSIGHT'S ALWAYS 20 20.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT PERHAPS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT WEREN'T PART OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND ITS ORIGINAL FORM, AND I WON'T GO INTO THOSE TONIGHT.

BUT THERE ARE THERE ARE MANY THAT I HOPE THAT THIS BODY WILL TAKE A LOOK AT.

AND NOT ONLY WILL THEY TRY AND CREATE THE THE FUTURE VISION, BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT GROWTH MANAGEMENT IS GROWTH PAID FOR ITSELF, TO A LARGE EXTENT, ABOUT 80 PERCENT.

SO WHEN YOU THINK OF ALL THE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT, IT WAS THE DEVELOPER I WANT TO SAY THAT AGAIN. IT WAS THE DEVELOPER THAT FRONT LOADED ALL THE STREETS, THE WATERS, THE SEWERAGE, THE OPEN SPACE, THE DRAINAGE.

IT WAS ALL THE DEVELOPERS AND ON THEIR BACKS.

SO WHEN YOU BOUGHT A NEW HOME IN CARLSBAD, THERE WASN'T, YOU KNOW, ANY ADD-ONS TO IT.

THE HOUSE ENCOMPASSED ALL THOSE COSTS AND THAT IN ITSELF IS VERY UNIQUE AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY TODAY THIS CITY IS FINANCIALLY AS STRONG AS IT IS, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO.

WE PAID FOR WHAT WE DID.

WE ALMOST ALWAYS PAID CASH.

WE'RE ALMOST EVERY OTHER CITY HAS TO BOND AND GO STEP BY STEP.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE UNIQUENESS OF WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.

AND HOPEFULLY WITH THIS BODY THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CAST THE FUTURE AGAIN INTO THE NEXT 20, 25 YEARS.

SO TONIGHT I'M MAYOR.

OH, SPEAKERS, I THOUGHT YOU WERE READY FOR THE APPOINTMENTS.

THANK YOU. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MARY RYAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. UM, MY NAME IS MARY RYAN, AS I WAS JUST INTRODUCED AND I'M AN APPLICANT FOR THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND I'M A NATIVE CALIFORNIAN.

I AM AN SD SU GRADUATE, WHICH IS WHAT BROUGHT ME TO SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND I'VE BEEN A PROUD CARLSBAD RESIDENT SINCE 1982, WHICH WE GOT OUR FIRST HOME.

THEN ALSO, WHERE'D YOU BUY? DESIRE TO BE APPOINTED IS SIMPLY THAT I JUST HAVE A TREMENDOUS LOVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE DIRECTION OF CARLSBAD FUTURE GROWTH, JUST LIKE OUR MAYOR JUST SPOKE ABOUT, I WAS A RESIDENT HERE IN 1986 WHEN THE FIRST GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS IMPLEMENTED ACTUALLY WAS IMPLEMENTED.

AFTER THAT, IT WAS VOTED ON THEN, BUT I FEEL LIKE I'VE REALLY GROWN UP WITH CARLSBAD AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE GROWTH HERE.

I ALSO KNOW THAT A NEW PLAN IS CRITICAL TO MAINTAINING THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

EXCELLENT. YOU KNOW, LIVING SITUATION HERE, AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT CARLSBAD HAS ALL THE FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURES THAT ARE GOING TO BE MEET ALL THE NEEDS OF THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF CARLSBAD.

SO WHY ME? OKAY. NUMBER ONE, I HAVE TIME.

UP UNTIL PREVIOUSLY TO THIS DAY, I RAN A MULTISTATE SALES TERRITORY, WHICH MEANT THAT I TRAVELED A LOT AND I HAD TO DO A LOT OF ADVANCED TRAINING IN DENTAL OFFICES.

SO I REALLY COULDN'T MAKE A COMMITMENT TO BEING ON A COMMITTEE IN CARLSBAD, AND THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO THE MEMBERS.

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I WILL TAKE CARE TO LISTEN TO INFORM THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS BEFORE RENDERING ANY OF MY GUIDANCE, AND I WANT TO BE PART OF A TEAM THAT CONTINUES TO MAKE CARLSBAD A PRIORITY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

ALSO, I AM A NEW SET OF EARS AND EYES.

I HAVE NOT BEEN ON ANY OTHER COMMITTEE, SO I BELIEVE THAT I COULD COME INTO THIS COMMITTEE WITH NO BIASES.

FINALLY, IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY, SHOULD YOU APPOINT ME TO THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE I PLEDGE TO STUDY ISSUES, RENDER INFORMED DECISIONS AND RESPECT THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMITTEE, ALL THE WHILE TRYING TO KEEP THE BEST RESULTS FOR CARLSBAD AT HAND.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS [INAUDIBLE] SINCLAIR.

HELLO. I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW ME ALREADY, SO I'LL MAKE THIS BRIEF.

MY FORMAL EDUCATION IS IN COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INTERIOR DESIGN, SO I HAVE BOTH LEFT BRAIN RIGHT BRAIN THINKING.

I THINK I CAN DO PRETTY WELL ON THIS COMMITTEE.

I'VE STUDIED LAND USE, ZONING AND GROWTH FOR THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS.

I EVEN READ THE JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME GOOD INPUT, AND I THINK I WOULD DO A GOOD JOB AND I'D LIKE TO BE APPOINTED.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CASEY CARSTAIRS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR HALL AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE MET ALL OF YOU, SO IT'S A PLEASURE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS CASEY CARSTAIRS.

JUST LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY BLESSED TO HAVE BEEN SELECTED AS A FINALIST FOR DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT ONE.

I KNOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF TALENTED INDIVIDUALS IN OUR CITY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME AND MY FAMILY.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN DISTRICT ONE FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, AND THREE OF OUR FOUR CHILDREN ATTEND BUENA VISTA ELEMENTARY IN DISTRICT ONE.

WE SPEND VIRTUALLY ALL OF OUR FREE TIME IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, AT THE BEACH, AT THE LAGOON. LOCAL PARKS ARE IN THE VILLAGE, SO I UNDERSTAND VERY WELL THE SIGNIFICANCE OF MAINTAINING OUR CARLSBAD QUALITY OF LIFE, ESPECIALLY AS WE LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE GROWTH OF OUR CITY. PERSONALLY, I HAVE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM SDSU.

I'VE SPENT THE BULK OF MY CAREER IN THE LAST 15 YEARS IN VARIOUS LEADERSHIP POSITIONS IN FINANCIAL SERVICES STARTUPS AND TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES.

I'VE BEEN BUILDING, DEVELOPING AND LEADING OPERATIONS, BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE AND CUSTOMER FACING TEAMS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.

DURING THIS TIME, I'VE CREATED PROVEN RECRUITMENT FRAMEWORK, TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK, QUALITY ASSURANCE FRAMEWORK AND CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE FRAMEWORKS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE THAT THESE NEW STATE LAWS POSE FOR OUR CITY AND ITS CURRENT GROWTH MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A GROUP OF COMPETENT AND COLLABORATIVE INDIVIDUALS TO DEVELOP A NEW AND IDEALLY IMPROVED AND SUSTAINABLE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.

I'VE ALSO CREATED LEAD AND BEEN A PART OF MULTIPLE PROFESSIONAL COMMITTEES OVER THE LAST DECADE. I'VE PRIDED MYSELF ON LISTENING, BEING RESPECTFUL, OPEN TO DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND, WHEN RELEVANT, PROVIDING CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK.

ALL OF THESE COMMITTEES WERE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE EACH MEMBER UNDERSTOOD THE IMPORTANCE OF COLLABORATION AND MOVING TOWARD A COMMON GOAL.

I WILL BRING THE SAME PRINCIPLES AND COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD I BE SELECTED.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER SERVE OUR CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS PATRICK [INAUDIBLE].

HI, I'M PATRICK [INAUDIBLE] I'VE LIVED IN CARLSBAD OVER 12 YEARS WITH MY FAMILY, RAISED OUR KIDS HERE. I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

I'VE BEEN A CITY PLANNING COMMISSIONER, PARKS AND REC COMMISSIONER ON THE BOARD OF ADVISORS OF [INAUDIBLE] AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.

BEEN THROUGH CITIZEN'S ACADEMY PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ACADEMY.

WHEN I WAS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER, I WAS INVOLVED IN WELL OVER 100 PROJECTS FOR THE CITY, INCLUDING THE MASTER PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN AND THE BARRIO.

I'VE WORKED WITH MANY OF YOU, PEDER AND MANY OTHERS, SO I'VE YET TO MEET YOU FOR YOU AND

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YEAH. SO I'M VERY I HAVE TIME WHERE I CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PLANNING ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO BE ON IT.

SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ERIC LARSON, FOLLOWED BY ERIN NELL.

MAYOR HALL AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ERIC LARSON, I REALLY WANT TO BE HERE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

THEY WANT TO PUT, YOU KNOW, A FACE TO A NAME OF THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO MEET ON THE TELEPHONE DURING THIS PROCESS.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR VISION TO UPDATE THE GENERAL PLAN.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'VE TAKEN FOR GRANTED FOR SO MANY YEARS.

BUT IF YOU WERE HERE IN 1986 OR SOME OF YOU WEREN'T EVEN BORN YET IN 1986, I RECOGNIZE THAT IT WAS A VERY CONTENTIOUS ELECTION TO ADOPT A GENERAL PLAN.

THERE WAS NO GUARANTEE THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET IT.

THERE WAS ANOTHER MEASURE ON THE BALLOT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WAS HEAVILY SUPPORTED.

TALK ABOUT CAMPAIGN SIGNS.

THE CITY WAS PLASTERED WITH SOME OF THESE TWO COMPETING MEASURES, AND THEN IT WAS A NUMBER OF LAWSUITS LAWSUITS THAT HAD TO BE RESOLVED.

AND SO MY MAIN QUALIFICATIONS THAT I SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I WAS ON THE LAST TWO GENERAL PLAN REVISION COMMITTEES AND I SERVED ON THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED THE GENERAL PLAN. AND WHEN WE NAVIGATED THOSE THOSE LAWSUITS, OTHER IMPORTANT QUALIFICATIONS FOR ME. I'VE LIVED IN CARLSBAD FOR FIFTY ONE YEARS AND NOW FOUR GENERATIONS OF MINE AND MY WIFE'S FAMILY LIVE IN CARLSBAD TODAY.

SO WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME AND OUR FAMILY IS GOING TO BE HERE VERY LONG TIME.

AND SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE OTHER THING IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S BEEN THIRTY SIX YEARS, SO IT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN.

BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA LEANING INTO LAND USE IN IN THE LOCAL CITIES, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE AN APPETITE IN SACRAMENTO TO TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO WITH HOUSING.

AND DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITIES.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN AND MAKE SURE IT'S PREPARED AND FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH WHAT MAY BE HEADING TOWARDS THIS FROM SACRAMENTO. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING.

IF YOU SHOULD SELECT ME, THANK YOU.

ERIN NELL, FOLLOWED BY [INAUDIBLE].

HI, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ERIN NELL, AND I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AS A CANDIDATE FOR DISTRICT FOUR OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THERE'S PLENTY OF INFORMATION ON THE APPLICATION THAT I WON'T REITERATE FOR YOU, BUT I WANTED TO BRIEFLY TELL YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN NAPA, CALIFORNIA, WHICH MOST PEOPLE THINK OF AS WINE COUNTRY.

BUT REALLY, IT'S JUST A SMALL TOWN THAT FACES THE SAME ISSUES THAT EVERY OTHER SMALL CITY FACES. MY FAMILY IS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY THERE.

SO WHEN I GRADUATED FROM LAW SCHOOL AND RETURNED TO NAPA I, IT WAS A NATURAL NEXT STEP, BASICALLY FOR ME TO FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS IN THIS REGARD, AND I JOINED A NUMBER OF COMMITTEES AND BOARDS WHILE I WAS THERE FOR THE MOST PART IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, SO I GREATLY APPRECIATED MY TIME WHILE I WAS THERE AND ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.

MY NOW HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO, AND JUST LAST YEAR WE PURCHASED OUR FIRST HOME RIGHT HERE IN CARLSBAD, WHICH IS IT'S A TOUGH TIME TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE'RE LESS THAN A MILE FROM OUR IN-LAWS FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE.

WE'RE LOCKED INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE.

AND AS WE'RE RAISING OUR FAMILY AND OUR FOREVER HOME, I REALLY WANTED TO GET BACK INTO THOSE COMMUNITY ROLES THAT I REALLY ENJOYED IN MY ORIGINAL HOMETOWN.

SO I'M THRILLED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A POSITION ON THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS POSITION PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO USE MY SKILLS, MY EXPERIENCE AND MY DESIRES AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER HERE.

I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING MY EXPERIENCE OR CANDIDACY.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JEANETTE CUSHMAN [INAUDIBLE], FOLLOWED BY FRANCIS CHANEL.

GOOD EVENING. I'VE BEEN SITTING OUTSIDE, I REALLY DON'T WEAR THIS GREAT BIG HEAVY COAT INDOORS USUALLY, BUT I WAS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE IT TONIGHT WHILE I WAS WAITING MY TURN OUTSIDE. I REALLY WAS SO PLEASED TO RECEIVE THE NOTICE THAT I WAS A FINALIST TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND I WROTE, I WAS INVITED ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE TO WRITE A LITTLE STATEMENT FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU HAVE READ THAT, BUT I DO HAVE THAT HERE IN MY HAND AND I MIGHT GO OVER THE SALIENT POINTS OF THAT.

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AND WHEN THE CALL FELL OUT, MS. ACOSTA CALLED ME BACK AGAIN.

AND SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AS I SAID IN THE LITTLE RESUME THAT I WROTE YOU ALL.

A MAJOR A MAJOR QUALIFICATION THAT I HOLD IS THAT I THINK I CAN BEAT ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM FOR LONGEVITY IN CARLSBAD, 1954.

AND SO MY FATHER BROUGHT HIS FAMILY HERE IN 1954, HE TO REINVENT HIMSELF.

AND HE DID.

AND A LOT OF THE CARLSBAD THAT WE KNOW IN THE DOWNTOWN WAS OWNED AND BUILT BY MY DAD. AND SO I AM SEEPED IN THAT IN THAT AREA AND WATCHING IT GROW AND WE TALK.

MR. LARSON TALKED ABOUT THE TRAUMA OF THE FIRST GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.

I REMEMBER THE TRAUMA FOR MY FATHER WAS WHEN CARLSBAD DECIDED TO INCORPORATE THE ACOSTA AREA. THAT WAS A GIANT TRAUMA AT THE TIME.

SO I HAD THE LONG VIEW OF CARLSBAD AND ITS GROWTH AND AN EXTREME INTEREST I STILL LIVE IN THAT HOUSE THAT THEY BOUGHT IN 1954 IN DISTRICT ONE.

AND. HAVE WATCHED A LOT HAPPEN OVER THE YEARS, AND I THINK I HAVE A GOOD PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WE WERE AND WHAT WE ARE AND WHERE WE CAN GO.

HERE IN CARLSBAD, I'M A RETIRED TEACHER AND SO YOU MAY KNOW THAT TEACHERS LOVE TO TALK.

SO ONCE THEY GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK HERE TONIGHT, I SAID YES, ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUENA VISTA SCHOOL WAS MENTIONED.

I TAUGHT THERE, I TAUGHT AT JEFFERSON AND THEN I WENT DOWN TO THE SOUTH IN THE [INAUDIBLE] AREA.

AND WHEN I CAME OUT OF THE CLASSROOM AS AN EOD SPECIALIST, I HAD [INAUDIBLE] AND PACIFIC RIM UNDER MY JURISDICTION THERE.

SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA OF CARLSBAD ALSO.

I HOLD A MASTER'S IN EDUCATION.

I'M FLUENT IN SPANISH AND I AM TERRIFICALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN CARLSBAD.

AND IN FAIRNESS, THAT LITTLE RED LIGHT IS FLASHING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

FRANCIS FRANCIS [INAUDIBLE] FOLLOWED BY HOPE NELSON.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

I GUESS I'M A RELATIVE NEWCOMER WITH ONLY 11 YEARS HERE IN CARLSBAD.

IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL 11 YEARS AND MY DESIRE TO BE ON THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS TO ENSURE THAT GOING FORWARD, WHETHER YOU'RE HERE FROM 1954 OR 2022, WE ALL CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.

I THINK WHAT I WOULD BRING TO THE COMMITTEE IS THE ABILITY TO HEAR FROM STAKEHOLDERS ALL ACROSS THE SPECTRUM, PEOPLE WHO HAVE WONDERFUL HOMES HERE, FANTASTIC BUSINESSES, THOSE WHO ARE UNSHELTERED, WHO NEED OUR SUPPORT AS A COMMUNITY, AS WE GROW THROUGHOUT MY CAREER. WHETHER IT'S BEEN AT TRI-CITY MEDICAL CENTER IN NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT, MOST RECENTLY, SHARP HEALTH CARE LOCALLY JUST RETIRED FROM AS DIRECTOR OF MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING TOGETHER VIEWPOINTS FROM STAKEHOLDERS ALL ACROSS THE SPECTRUM AND SEEK OUT THOSE VIEWPOINTS AND COME UP WITH REALLY CONSENSUS BUILDING TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS AND THE WANTS AND THE GOALS OF VARIOUS FOLKS.

AND END UP MAYBE NOT WHERE EVERYBODY'S HAPPY, WHICH THEY SAY IS THE ART OF A GOOD COMPROMISE. EVERYONE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A LITTLE BIT UNHAPPY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND FUTURE GENERATIONS BECAUSE IT IT REALLY IS A WONDERFUL PLACE.

THANK YOU. OUR LAST SPEAKER IS HOPE NELSON.

GOOD EVENING. GREAT TO SEE ALL OF YOU GUYS AGAIN.

I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT BECAUSE, HONESTLY, ALL OF THE SPEAKERS PERTAINING TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SOUND WONDERFUL, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMITTEE AND ITS POTENTIAL TO BE CONNECTED TO WHAT I SEE AS A PLAN TO PUSH A CERTAIN GROWTH AGENDA.

AND NOW I SEE A RECOMMENDATION THAT JEFF SIEGEL SERVED ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ALONG WITH HAP LARUE.

THESE MEN HAVE EACH SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR TOO LONG A PERIOD, SIEGAL FOR 14 YEARS, LARUE FOR 18 YEARS.

THEY WERE BOTH APPOINTED BY MATT HALL IN THE DAYS WHEN HE DID ALL THE APPOINTMENTS.

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I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THEM, AND I COMMEND THEIR STAMINA AND THEIR VOLUNTEERISM AT THE SAME TIME. WHAT I SEE TONIGHT IS WHAT I HOPE WILL HAPPEN.

I BELIEVE IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A FRESH PERSPECTIVE.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU TONIGHT TO NOT VOTE FOR AN OLD GUARD GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE YOU TO CHANGE THE NAME.

IT'S A LITTLE UNWIELDY, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF MY COMMENTS AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS TONIGHT FROM THE DAIS.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS, MAYOR.

OK, THEN IT'S MY FIRST GO, FIRST ON THIS, OK? MINE WOULD BE JEFF SIEGEL AND SCOTT WHITE AS PRIMARIES.

AND PATRICK GOERTZ AND RUN ALL AS ALTERNATES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT JUST FOR KEEP THIS EXPEDITED, WE DON'T NEED A SECOND THESE IS THAT CORRECT? OK.

NORMALLY, A NOMINATION DOESN'T REQUIRE A SECOND.

IT'S A NICE FORMALITY.

HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A RESOLUTION, SO IF YOU WANT TO OFFER A SECOND, BE A NICE FORMALITY.

IN THE INTEREST OF A NICE FORMALITY I'LL SECOND THANK YOU.

OK. ANY CONVERSATION? PLEASE VOTE.

OOPS! ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

YES. FIVE TIMES.

[INAUDIBLE] IS IT CLEARED? AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO DISTRICT ONE.

AND I THINK THAT'S YOU MR. BLACKBURN. DISTRICT ONE WILL BE MR. NORBY. I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU, MR. BLACKBURN.

I WASN'T SURE THERE FOR A MOMENT.

I WAS JUST GOING DOWN THE DAIS.

I'M SORRY. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT. THIS IS ALTHOUGH I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT.

WELL, I THINK FROM MY VIEW, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMITTEE THAT THIS CITY IS DECIDING ON IN THE LAST 30 OR 40 YEARS, CERTAINLY THE LAST 36 YEARS.

AND I WANT TO JUST TAKE A BRIEF AMOUNT OF TIME GIVEN ITS GRAVITAS TO TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES MAYBE THINGS COME FROM THE DAIS AND FROM YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS OR APPOINTED IN MY CASE OR THEY COME FROM STAFF AND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN REALLY CAME FROM THE CITIZENS.

IT STARTED WITH WITH CITIZENS ANGRY AT THE PACE OF GROWTH AND WHERE IT WAS GOING.

THAT QUALIFIED A BALLOT MEASURE THAT WAS MORE RESTRICTIVE.

I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT HARD TO DEFINE THAT.

AND THEN THE RESPONSE WAS THE COUNCIL AND CITIZENS WHO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT TO START WORKING ON A DOCUMENT THAT WOULD COMPETE WITH THAT DOCUMENT TO GIVE OUR CITIZENS TWO CHOICES AND THEY BOTH COULD FAIL OR THEY BOTH COULD PASS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE TO LOOK AT AT GROWTH AND HOW WE HANDLE IT.

AND I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I THINK THE POPULATION BACK THEN WAS 50,000 ISH, MAYBE 40, MAYBE 60, BUT 50,000 ISH, AND ALSO JUST REITERATING SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT AND THAT SOME OF OUR SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT.

I HAD A CHANCE TO BE A COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO FOR EIGHT YEARS. THERE ARE MANY OF US, I THINK, IN THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS ON STAFF THAT HAVE COUNTY EXPERIENCE.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THERE WAS A LOT OF BAD PLANNING IN THE 60S, 70S AND 80S.

THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, I ALMOST WANT TO SEND AN APOLOGY NOTE TO SPRING VALLEY IN TERMS OF THE PLANNING THAT THE COUNTY PUT ON THAT COMMUNITY.

NOW, IN THE MEANTIME HERE IN CARLSBAD, OUR CITIZENS WENT TO WORK FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, CRAFTED A DOCUMENT. IT WAS CHALLENGED.

THERE WERE LEGAL CHALLENGES, BUT I THINK THAT DOCUMENT HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME.

IT HAS THE TRUST OF THE CITIZENRY OF CARLSBAD, AND IT HAS THE UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND THOSE WHO ARE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL BUILDINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THERE IS A BAR TO BE TO BE MET.

AND I AM SO THANKFUL FOR THE WORK THAT THAT COMMITTEE DID BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE BATTLES THAT THAT WE HAD DOWN IN THE COUNTY, INDIVIDUAL BATTLES HAVE BEEN AVOIDED WITH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN BECAUSE THERE'S A STANDARD AND THERE IS ACCEPTANCE BY THE COMMUNITY.

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SO FOR THIS SUCCESSOR GROUP, THAT COMES AND I AGREE WITH ONE OF THE SPEAKERS WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST GROUP WAS CALLED GROWTH MANAGEMENT GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND I THINK WE ARE PROBABLY 90-95 PERCENT THROUGH THAT ORIGINAL GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

SO IT'S CERTAINLY APPLICABLE FOR THE LAST FIVE OR 10 PERCENT THAT WILL BE JOINING US.

AND THEN THE REST IS WHAT DO WE DO FROM THIS POINT FORWARD? HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS STATE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING ON? HOW DO WE KEEP AGRICULTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY? HOW DO WE MAKE IT MORE EQUITABLE FOR ALL WHO LIVE HERE? HOW DO WE SUSTAIN? HOW DO WE PAY FOR THINGS FOR THE NEXT 10, 20, 30 YEARS OR THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS OR THE NEXT 500 YEARS? HOW DO WE KEEP CARLSBAD? GREAT? SO I'M NOT SURE GROWTH IS THE RIGHT WORD, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE COMMITTEE AND I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO STAFF.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING ABOUT HOW WE LIVE TOGETHER WHEN WE'RE ALREADY BUILT VERSUS HOW WE DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO BUILD AND WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THINGS.

SO JUST MY PERSPECTIVE ON THAT, YOU HAVE REALLY, REALLY BIG SHOES TO FILL PHIL.

I HOPE THAT YOU ARE AS SUCCESSFUL AS THE PREVIOUS.

YOU HAVE A STRONG ROLE TO PLAY.

THERE'LL BE A STRONG PUBLIC ROLE AND THERE'LL BE OBVIOUSLY CONSULTANTS INVOLVED AS WELL.

BUT IT IS SUPER, SUPER IMPORTANT FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND IT WILL BE LED BY CITIZENS.

AND ULTIMATELY, I BELIEVE IT'LL END UP WITH A VOTE OF CITIZENS TO EITHER AFFIRM OR DENY YOUR WORK THAT YOU DO AS A COMMITTEE.

THAT'S JUST A PROJECTION ON MY PART.

SO MY SECOND COMMENT IS READING THROUGH THE 50 PLUS APPLICATIONS AND THEN WITH GREAT ATTENTION TO DISTRICT ONE APPLICATIONS, I AM JUST SO UPLIFTED, JUST SO AMAZED AT THE QUALITY OF APPLICANTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.

IT'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT AND IT'S TOUGH TO NARROW DOWN TO FIVE.

AND IT'S REAL TOUGH TO NARROW DOWN TO TWO PRIMARIES AND TO TWO ALTERNATES.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT FIRST OF ALL, I AM APPOINTED AND I'M AWARE THAT THIS WAS AN ELECTED SEAT.

AND TWO MEMBERS HAVE SERVED AS ELECTED MEMBERS IN DISTRICT ONE, AND I'M THE THIRD ONE, SO I WANT TO BE AWARE OF THE POPULATION THAT VOTED FOR THIS SEAT.

AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO STRIKE A BALANCE OF ALL ASPECTS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS COMMITTEE, SO MY PICKS WOULD BE IN TERMS OF PRIMARY WOULD BE ERIC LARSON PRIMARY WOULD BE HAP LARUE ALTERNATE WOULD BE CASEY [INAUDIBLE].

AN ALTERNATE WOULD BE [INAUDIBLE] SINCLAIR.

SO MR. NORBY, ONE OF THE THINGS I ERRORED TO DO IS YOU HAVE TO TAKE ERIC AND SAY, WHO'S ERIC'S ALTERNATE? ALTERNATE IS AND WHO'S HAPS ALTERNATE.

SO YOU HAVE TO ASSIGN THE ALTERNATE TO THE PRIMARY.

OK, I THOUGHT I DID. THE PRIMARY WOULD BE ERIC LARSON.

THE PRIMARY WOULD BE HAP LARUE, AND THE ALTERNATE WOULD BE CASEY CARSTAIRS, AND THE ALTERNATE WOULD BE JAN. AND I'M SORRY, SIR.

WHAT? SO IF YOU'RE IDENTIFYING ERIC LARSON AS THE PRIMARY, WHO IS ERIC LARSON'S ALTERNATE? OK, THAT WOULD BE [INAUDIBLE] SINCLAIR AND THEN HAP LARUE, AND THE ALTERNATE FOR HAP WOULD BE CASEY [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND I DID THE SAME ERROR.

SO JEFF, JEFF SIEGEL FOR ME, WOULD BE [INAUDIBLE] AND SCOTT WHITE'S THE PRIMARY IN PATRICK [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE THE ALTERNATE.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO.

OR WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT.

YES, SO THAT WAS A MOTION.

MR. BLACKBURN SECOND.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, MR. BLACKBURN ECHO WHAT PEDER JUST SAID.

THAT'S A LOT OF GOOD APPLICANTS.

I TOLD ONE OF THE APPLICANTS THAT AT ONE POINT I HAD FIVE OR SIX NUMBER ONES.

THAT'S HOW GOOD THE APPLICANT POOL WAS.

IT IS DIFFICULT AND I'M GOING TO SAY IT, NOT JUST FOR THIS, BUT ALSO FOR THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

SO MANY QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

IT'S IT'S REFRESHING, IT'S IT'S A PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT IT'S SO REFRESHING BECAUSE WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED TO THE COUNCIL MANY YEARS AGO ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE MIGHT HAVE FOUR OR FIVE, MAYBE EVEN SIX APPLICANTS.

NOW WE'RE I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBER WAS FORTY, FIFTY THREE APPLICANTS.

IT'S MORE THAN I'VE EVER SEEN FOR ANY BORDER COMMISSION HERE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO SERVE.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE FIFTY THREE OPENINGS, BUT I NARROWED MINE DOWN TO THE PRIMARY AS MIKE [INAUDIBLE] HIS ALTERNATE IS DON CHRISTIANSEN.

MY OTHER PRIMARY IS MARY RYAN, AND HER ALTERNATE IS TERRANCE GREEN.

SECOND, SECOND.

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MOVING ON TO DR.

BHAT-PATEL DISTRICT THREE.

YES, THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT AS WELL WITH REGARDS TO, OF COURSE, THE APPLICANTS, BUT JUST WITH REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR PLAN AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, I THINK FOR ME, AS SOMEONE WHO GREW UP HERE AND NOW IS RAISING MY NOW ONE YEAR OLD AS WELL HERE, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY, FUTURE GENERATIONS AND OF COURSE, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE. SO FOR ME, I'LL BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WATCHING ALONG THE SIDELINES AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT MY SON GETS TO ENJOY AS I GREW UP HERE AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT, THE TWO PRIMARY FOLKS THAT I'LL BE CHOOSING ARE GOING TO BE MR. FRANK [INAUDIBLE] AND HIS ALTERNATE WILL BE MR. [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN MS. SCHNALL WILL BE THE PRIMARY, AND THEN HER ALTERNATE WILL BE MR. REESE. SECOND, SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY GOING ON TO DISTRICT FOUR, COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, THE THE QUALITY OF THE APPLICANTS AND THE WILLINGNESS OF SO MANY PEOPLE WITH GREAT EXPERIENCE AND A VARIETY OF DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES WAS SO, SO AMAZING TO SEE.

AND IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANTS, I DID ASK THEM LIKE, ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE WILLING TO COMMIT TO TO THE TIME COMMITMENT THAT THIS REQUIRES? AND AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WALKING INTO AND EVERYONE SAID YES, AND I CAN'T WAIT TO DO IT BECAUSE I LOVE CARLSBAD, SO I WAS REALLY, REALLY PLEASED.

I HAVE FIVE FINALISTS THAT I PICKED OUT OF.

IT WAS SO HARD TO PICK THEM AS COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKBURN SAID.

AND NOW IT'S EVEN HARDER TO NARROW THEM DOWN.

BUT I'VE CHOSEN HARRY PEACOCK AS A PRIMARY WITH ERIN NELL AS HIS ALTERNATE AND ANNIKA JIMÉNEZ AS A PRIMARY WITH ANGELA O'HARA AS HIS ALTERNATIVE TO HER ALTERNATE.

SORRY. SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, SO NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO WE DO HAVE A LIST HERE OF PRIMARY AND ALTERNATES.

DO WE NEED TO NAME THOSE OR CAN WE JUST INCORPORATE THE LIST? YOU CAN JUST MAKE A MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTION TO BE ADOPTED.

OK. THAT'S MY THAT'LL BE MY MOTION.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY MOVING ON I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I GOT TO LEAVE ON THIS ONE.

OK, SO I ON THIS ITEM, I DO OWN PROPERTY ALONG WITH MY WIFE IN THE NOTICED AREA, SO I WILL HAVE TO STEP DOWN.

FEELS LIKE THE LAST AGENDA ITEM WAS PRACTICE FOR THIS ONE.

[11. MAYORAL/MAYOR PRO TEM AND DISTRICT 1 APPOINTMENTS OF SEVEN MEMBERS TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE]

I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THIS ONE, AS IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ITEM WHEN MAKING YOUR NOMINATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE GO ORDER IN ORDER OF THE STAFF REPORT EXHIBITS BEGINNING AT THE MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM APPOINTMENT FOLLOWED BY THE DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINTMENT FOR EACH OF THESE, WE WILL HAVE THE RECOMMENDING COUNCIL MEMBER MAKE THEIR NOMINATION AND FOLLOW WITH A VOTE AFTER THE NOMINATIONS ARE MADE AND VOTED UPON.

COUNCIL MAY THEN MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE FINAL RESOLUTION, APPOINTING ONE MEMBER FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND ONE MEMBER FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SERVE ON THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN TAKE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ANNETTE SWANTON.

FOLLOWED BY NICHOLAS [INAUDIBLE].

HELLO, MY NAME IS ANNETTE SWANTON, AND THANK YOU ALL.

I KNOW WE ALL LOVE CARLSBAD, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY I'M HERE.

I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE.

GOSH, I CAN'T EVEN COUNT THE YEARS, BUT I KNOW IT'S OVER 20 AND ALSO LIVE AND WORK IN THE VILLAGE OF CARLSBAD DOWNTOWN.

I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME BUILDING, SOME CREATING OF SMALL PROJECTS, AND I'VE ALSO BEEN IN THE

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I STARTED IN THE BUSINESS BECAUSE I WAS YOUNG AND DIDN'T OWN A HOME AND HAD KIDS AND REALLY WANTED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT A ROOF OVER OUR HEADS.

SO IT WAS LIKE CLIMBING A CLIFF OR THE FINGERNAILS.

OVER THE YEARS AND NOW WE'RE THREE GENERATIONS STRONG IN CARLSBAD, AND I'M VERY PROUD TO BE HERE. SO I'D LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE NOW I CAN, AND IT WOULD BE A PRIVILEGE.

I WOULD HAVE TO LEARN A LOT, BUT I'M WILLING TO DO IT.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AFRAID TO COLLABORATE.

THAT'S A REALLY BIG THING.

I THINK IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS THE GOAL OF KEEPING OUR CITY WONDERFUL, WE CAN DO IT AND WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE WILLINGNESS TO DO IT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND IT WOULD BE A PRIVILEGE.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS NICHOLAS [INAUDIBLE], FOLLOWED BY DEBBIE SULLIVAN.

HELLO, EVERYONE, I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF I'M A CANDIDATE AND THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE. PREVIOUSLY, I'VE SPOKEN WITH MR. NORBY AND DISCUSSED IT.

I FEEL LIKE I'M UNIQUELY QUALIFIED JUST GIVEN MY BACKGROUND AND THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY, AND I'M CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT NEW PROJECTS ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS.

SO THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DEBBIE SULLIVAN.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION, I AM DEBBIE SULLIVAN, I'M GLAD TO BE HERE.

I SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THE PHONE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOU RECOMMENDED THAT I REACH OUT TO MR. PEDER NORBY BECAUSE I LIVE IN HIS DISTRICT.

SO I DID LEFT YOU A MESSAGE.

I HOPE YOU HEARD IT. I ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, I GOT THE JOB AND HOUSE AREA, NOT A HOUSE.

I LIVE AND WORK IN CARLSBAD AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY MANAGER, AND I'VE BEEN DOING SO FOR THREE YEARS. I LIVE IN CARLSBAD, I WORK IN CARLSBAD, I EXERCISE IN THE VILLAGE AND IN CARLSBAD. I SHOP HERE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE THAT LONG, BUT I LOVE IT.

I HOPE TO STAY FOR A LONG TIME.

WHEN I WAS INVOLVED IN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY IN MAMMOTH, A FEW YEARS BACK, I WAS INVOLVED IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ALSO IN THE LODGING ASSOCIATION.

SO I LOVED GETTING INVOLVED WHEN I COULD FOR ABOUT 10 MONTHS.

AFTER THAT, I WAS UNEMPLOYED.

I WAS TRYING TO GET A JOB.

I ACTUALLY WAS IN THE PROCESS HERE WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND AS I WAS CONSIDERING GETTING HIRED HERE TO WORK HERE.

BACK THEN I WAS LIKE, GOSH, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK.

AND AND THEN THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

BUT I GOT THIS OTHER JOB AND I'M REALLY HAPPY.

I HAVE 81 APARTMENT HOMES THAT I MANAGE.

SO A LOT OF MY THE MAJORITY OF MY RESIDENTS ARE SENIORS IN ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT I MANAGE, AND THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR WELL OVER A DECADE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF VOICES THERE WITH A LOT OF FEELINGS ABOUT ALL THE GROWTH AROUND THEM.

THEY GET A LITTLE NERVOUS EVERY TIME A BUILDING GETS KNOCKED DOWN AND THEY'RE AFRAID THEIR HOMES GOING TO GET TAKEN AWAY.

I ALSO GO TO A CHURCH WHERE THERE'S HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES, SO I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AREA AND I WANT TO SERVE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. SO WE'LL JUST I'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LIST, I'LL START, BUT I DO WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP. ONE OF MY MY PRIMARIES IS PATRICK CONNOLLY, AND I NOTICED IT'S ALSO ON DISTRICT ONE. PEDER, ON YOUR LIST? OK, I WILL.

I GUESS I'LL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPROPRIATE TERMINOLOGY.

OK. YOU DO HAVE TWO OTHER NAMES THERE, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT STEPPING ON TOES. OK? MY FIRST SELECTION PRIMARY IS PATRICK CONNOLLY, AND HIS ALTERNATE IS WILLIAM HAGEN. TO CLARIFY, THESE ARE BOTH JUST PROFESSIONALS.

THERE'S NO PRIMARY OR ALTERNATE ON THIS ONE.

SO WE'RE JUST DOING TWO PEOPLE AND NO, NO ALTERNATE.

CORRECT. THANK YOU.

THEN I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND.

I'VE GOT ONE PRIMARY AS PATRICK CONNOLLY AND THE SECOND ONE IS MONA [INAUDIBLE].

SECOND. AND THE NEXT ONE IS THE DISTRICT ONE, TWO VILLAGE RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S.

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SO I'LL BE DOING TWO PRIMARIES FROM THE BARRIO, TWO PRIMARIES FROM THE VILLAGE AND ONE BUSINESS OWNER IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO IF IT LOOKS LIKE I'M VOTING A LOT, IT IS BECAUSE I AM.

BUT IT WASN'T MY FAULT.

SO I'LL DO MY BEST FOR THE FOR THE AREA.

SO FOR BUSINESS OWNER, MY PRIMARY WOULD BE TODD HARRIS.

FOR RESIDENT, MY PRIMARY FOR BARRIO RESIDENT, EXCUSE ME, MY PRIMARY WOULD BE ANNETTE SWANSON.

AND DAVID AND DAVID MAGEE WOULD BE MY TWO PRIMARIES.

SCRATCH THAT, I'M SORRY, I HAD MY NOTES WRONG.

I'D LIKE TO REDO THAT IT WOULD BE ANNETTE SWANTON AND IT WOULD BE NICHOLAS [INAUDIBLE] FOR BARRIO RESIDENT AS MY TWO MY PRIMARIES.

FOR VILLAGE. IT WOULD BE DEBBIE SULLIVAN.

AND MARY [INAUDIBLE] OR [INAUDIBLE].

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

AND THE NEXT TWO IS THE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT BOTH OF THE SELECTIONS FROM BOTH OF THOSE, THEY ARE RELATED AND LIVE IN THE SAME HOME TOGETHER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS THEM TO SERVE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS DISCLOSED AND IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF THAT.

SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

DR. BHAT-PATEL. SURE.

YEAH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO EACH OF THE MEMBERS.

WERE THERE OTHER MEMBERS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN SERVING FROM THE COMMISSIONS? I BELIEVE ERIC CLARDY IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

YES, COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL THE THERE WERE NOT OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION INTERESTED IN SERVING.

IT WAS GENERALLY A UNANIMOUS DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENTS OF THOSE.

OK, AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH STAFF. I DID NOT ATTEND THAT MEETING, BUT THEY WERE APPOINTED BY THEIR COMMITTEE.

OK. AND THE SO THE PROCESS WAS THAT THEY DID.

OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE THERE, THEY DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND SAY, I'M INTERESTED, AND THEN THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS DECISION MADE IN ORDER TO MOVE THESE NAMES FORWARD. YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

THESE WERE BROWN ACT AGENDA ITEMS AND DISCUSSED AND NOMINATED AND APPOINTED AND VOTED ON BY THEIR COMMITTEES. GREAT.

THANK YOU. MS. ACOSTA. THANK YOU.

ONE MORE QUESTION RELATED TO THIS WERE CONCERNS BROUGHT TO US, I HAVEN'T SEEN AN EMAIL OR ANYTHING, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WERE COMMUNITY CONCERNS ABOUT THE BOTH OF THESE APPOINTEES BEING IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD.

AND TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, NO.

THIS OCCURRED AFTER THE FACT WHERE STAFF WERE BASICALLY REVIEWING THE INFORMATION, AND THEN IT BECAME AWARE THROUGH STAFF'S DILIGENCE THAT THEY WERE IN FACT, MEMBERS OF THE SAME HOUSEHOLD. GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND AND I DID HEAR THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS THIS CURRENTLY IN OUR POLICIES, RIGHT? SEEKING CONFIRMATION, THERE'S.

YOU DO HAVE CRITERIA THAT ARE SET FORTH FOR YOUR COMMISSIONER SELECTION, WHICH INCLUDES THINGS LIKE FAIRNESS, IMPARTIALITY, ET CETERA, AND ALSO GEOGRAPHICAL SPREAD, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PARTICULARLY RELEVANT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE BECAUSE THESE ARE REALLY THE EX-OFFICIALS FROM THOSE TWO COMMITTEES.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING UNLAWFUL THAT I CAN THINK OF ABOUT IT. I DO THINK THAT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF US WANTING TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

SO BECAUSE A SINGLE HOUSEHOLD MIGHT BE SEEN AS HAVING A LOT OF INFLUENCE.

SO GREAT, THANK YOU.

AND I UNDERSTAND AND I DO THINK THAT NOTHING UNTOWARD HAPPENED, BUT MAYBE WE CAN LOOK IN THE FUTURE AT SOME OF OUR POLICIES AND AND MAKE IT MORE CLEAR THAT THAT SHOULD BE

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WE SHOULD CONSIDER HAVING INFLUENCE FROM MORE THAN ONE MEMBER OF THE HOUSEHOLD ON ONE COMMITTEE. SO THANK YOU, MR. NORBY. YEAH, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT.

IN TERMS OF FUTURE POLICY, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO.

BUT I'D LIKE TO, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THREE OF US TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY GET THIS KIND OF AGREED, YOU KNOW, OR WHERE WE STAND ON IT.

BUT I THINK THESE ARE BOTH.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THIS FAMILY FOR SERVING AND VOLUNTEERING ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COMMITTEES IN CARLSBAD AND COMMISSIONS.

IT'S OUTSTANDING.

AND THEN THEY WERE SELECTED BY THEIR PEERS AND PUT FORWARD AND VOTED ON BY THEIR PEERS IN THESE COMMISSIONS.

AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT DISENFRANCHISING, THESE COMMISSIONERS WHO VOTED TO HAVE THEM ON OUR COMMITTEE.

I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR HOME LIFE, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH CONFLICT IF THEY'RE NOT IN AGREEMENT IN THIS COMMITTEE.

BUT THAT'S BEYOND KIND OF OUR SCOPE.

BOTH OF US, YOU KNOW, IN OUR HOUSEHOLD, BOTH OF US VOTE IN AN ELECTION IN DISTRICT ONE.

SO I THINK IT'S BEST TO HAVE IT AS AN A POLICY.

BUT ABSENT THAT, I THINK MY CONCERNS WEIGH HEAVILY ON THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SELECTED INDIVIDUALLY BY THEIR TWO COMMISSIONS AND NOT WANTING TO DISENFRANCHISE THOSE COMMISSIONS. AND SO I WOULD I WOULD SUPPORT.

I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT AND WOULD SUPPORTING IT AT THIS TIME.

OK, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD PROVIDES MARITAL COUNSELING, SO I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE A PROBLEM.

SO MY THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION IS RAUL DIAZ AND FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS ALICIA LAFFERTY.

SECOND. AND THAT PASSES, ARE WE FINISHED WITH THIS? CAN WE INVITE THE MAYOR BACK. YES . I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM FOR TONIGHT, SO WE'LL GO TO OUR CLOSING REMARKS AND MR.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS (Part 1 of 2)]

I ATTENDED A MEETING JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY OF OUR RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH FIRST RESPONDERS, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE ISSUE.

THE MAIN ISSUE THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH AND I THINK WE'RE ALL AWARE OF IT IS THE TERMINATION OF 3G COMMUNICATIONS.

AND SO HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT PRIMARILY SENIORS WHO MAY HAVE OLDER DEVICES, MOBILE DEVICES THAT AREN'T UP TO DATE AS WELL AS CARS.

AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT WITH THE CARS IS THAT IF YOU HAVE ONSTAR, YOU HAVE SOME OTHER DEVICE. OUR CAR, WE CALL IT LIKE THE THE HELP BUTTON UP THERE AND SOMEBODY JUST ANSWERS IT WHEN YOU CALL A LOT OF THAT.

IF YOUR CAR IS OLDER THAN I THINK 2017, YOU WANT TO CHECK BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY 3G AND THAT WILL TERMINATE. AND SO THAT BUTTON THAT HELP BUTTON WILL NO LONGER BE THERE.

AND ALSO IN-CAR AIRBAGS DEPLOY.

EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO CARE A CALL BECAUSE OF THE SEVERITY OF THE ACCIDENT, THE CAR WILL CALL FOR YOU.

SO THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT THAT THE COMMITTEE IS TRYING TO WORK ON, AND I WOULD JUST ADVISE IF YOU HAVE AN OLDER CAR AND YOU HAVE THAT BUTTON TO WORK AND YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BUTTON, KEEP WORKING AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT BEING KIND OF TERMINATED BY YOUR CARRIER ON THAT.

AND THEN ALSO, IF JUST BE AWARE, IF YOU HAVE AN OLDER CELLULAR DEVICE, THAT IT ALSO WON'T BE ABLE TO TO BE CONTACTED.

SO THAT WILL STOP IN TERMS OF THE 3G SUPPORT.

AND THAT IS NOT A DECISION BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT A DECISION BY THE CARRIERS. AND IT'S JUST BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, AND I DID OVERLOOK.

WE DO HAVE TWO FINAL SPEAKERS ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO LET ME TAKE THOSE NEXT.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

FOLLOWED BY ERIN MCPHERSON.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS LINDA SCHLESINGER.

I'M A CARLSBAD RESIDENT AND I RESIDE IN DISTRICT ONE.

AS A LONGTIME DAILY LAP SWIM PATRON OF THE MONROE STREET POOL, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ADVOCATE FOR THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT PROJECT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT

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AS YOU ARE AWARE OF, THE MONROE STREET POOL IS ALMOST 40 YEARS OLD AND NEEDS A MAJOR OVERHAUL TO REMAIN OPERATIONAL AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH CURRENT HEALTH, SAFETY AND BUILDING CODES. AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS CHALLENGED DAILY TO KEEP THE POOL OPERATIONAL, SAFE AND HEALTHY.

THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND CITY MAINTENANCE FACILITY STAFF ARE DOING A HEROIC JOB AT THE MONROE STREET POOL.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE PART OF THE UNANIMOUS VOTE ON JANUARY 26, 2021, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL TRANSFORM THE MONROE STREET POOL INTO AN EXPANDED, MODERN, ECO FRIENDLY FACILITY THAT BETTER MEETS THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

I SUPPORT YOUR DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MONROE STREET IMPROVEMENT OPTION THREE, THE MOST EXTENSIVE RENOVATION OF THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WERE CONSIDERED AND WHICH WAS ALSO FAVORED BY MOST COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN A PUBLIC SURVEY.

I WILL ADMIT THAT I WAS DISAPPOINTED WITH THE COUNCIL FEB.

22, 2022 DECISION TO DEFER A PROPOSITION EIGHT BALLOT MEASURE THAT WOULD HAVE PLACED THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ON THE JUNE 7TH, 2022 PRIMARY BALLOT ELECTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK COUNCILMAN NORBY FOR HIS REASONED ARGUMENT NOT TO DEFER THE PROPOSITION EIGHT BALLOT MEASURE AND FOR HIS NO VOTE.

THE CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 16, 2022, WHERE COUNCIL WILL CLARIFY AND PRIORITIZE THE CITY COUNCIL'S GOALS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND PRIORITIZE A NUMBER OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

REGARDING THE PRIORITIZATION OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ON MARCH 16, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO VISIT THE MONROE STREET POOL PRIOR TO THE MARCH 16TH STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE FIRSTHAND THE CURRENT DEGRADED STATE OF THE MONROE STREET POOL COMPLEX, WHICH HAS MANY ISSUES, SOME OF WHICH ARE YEARS OLD.

AN EXAMPLE OF A LONG STANDING ISSUE WITH THE MONROE STREET POOL IS AN UNDERWATER LIGHT THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE EAST WALL OF THE POOL PLACED ON THE POOL DECK, BUT REMAINS CONNECTED TO AN UNDERWATER ELECTRICAL CONNECTION.

AND I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO GIVE YOU A SHEET OF PAPER THAT CONTAINS TWO PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I TOOK. YES, SIR.

AND I WANT YOU TO NOTE IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER, THERE IS A DATE STAMP.

THE TOP PICTURE IS DATED YESTERDAY, MARCH 7TH, 2022.

AND THE LOWER PICTURE IS DATED OCTOBER 10TH, 2019.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

AND YES, WE ALL LOVE THE MONROE STREET POOL.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ERIN MCPHERSON.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WELCOME BACK TO YOUR NEW HOME, HOW DOES IT FEEL THAT YOU'RE IN YOUR OLD HOME I GUESS AGAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

THIS IS NOT ONE OF YOUR LONGEST MEETINGS, SO I WILL KEEP IT SHORT SO YOU CAN REALLY GET OUT OF HERE AT A DECENT TIME TONIGHT.

I KNOW FIRSTHAND HOW DIFFICULT YOUR JOB IS, AND I KNOW NEXT WEEK WHEN YOU GO INTO THE MEETING WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING COMMUNITY PRIORITIES.

EVERY DISTRICT HAS THEIR PRIORITIES AND IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD FOR YOU TO DETERMINE HOW IMPORTANT YOUR DISTRICT'S PRIORITIES ARE TO THE HUGE TOWN THAT WE HAVE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND THINKING ALL OF THIS THROUGH.

I'M A HUGE POOL ADVOCATE.

ERIC LARSON HAS ME BEAT.

I GO BACK THREE GENERATIONS AND MY SON MOVED HERE.

AND SO NOW WE'RE FOUR GENERATIONS HERE.

AND WHEN I LEARNED TO SWIM AT THE ROYAL PALMS POOL, THAT WAS NOW LIKE, WE'RE NAUTILUS FROM BILL WAGNER, WHO WAS THE OCEANSIDE HIGH SCHOOL SWIM COACH WHEN I WAS NOT EVEN FOUR BECAUSE MY PARENTS THOUGHT THAT SWIMMING, LIVING SO CLOSE TO THE OCEAN.

YOU LEARN TO SWIM IN A POOL BECAUSE AN OCEAN IS IS A BIT ROUGHER AGAIN GROWING UP.

OF COURSE WE HAVE THE BEACH, BUT YOU STILL NEEDED TO GO TO THE POOL FOR LIFESAVING CLASSES AND SYNCHRONIZED SWIMMING AND AND ALL OF THOSE FUN THINGS.

AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT AS A KID GOING TO THE MARSHALL STREET POOL, YOU COULD GO WITH OUR FRIENDS KIND OF LIKE IN THAT SANDLOT MOVIE, WHEN THEY'RE AT THE POOL WHERE YOU COULDN'T GO TO THE BEACH WITHOUT ADULT SUPERVISION THERE.

SO I REMEMBER RIDING MY BIKE TO THE MARSHALL STREET POOL TO GET MY LIFESAVING BADGE, AND ONE OF MY FIRST JOBS WAS BEING A LIFEGUARD.

AND I DID THAT THROUGH THROUGH COLLEGE, AND BETTY LOUIS WAS A TEACHER WHEN I WAS, OF COURSE, AT CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL.

AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I WAS THINKING BACK, AND THE VERY FIRST TIME I WAS POLITICALLY ACTIVE ON AN ISSUE IS WHEN I WAS A LANCER AND WE WERE TRYING TO GET A POOL SO THAT CARLSBAD COULD HAVE A SWIM TEAM KIND OF LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

WE WERE A SMALL TOWN BACK THEN AND IT WAS REALLY WE WERE SO EMOTIONAL WE MADE PURPLE

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I STAND HERE OLD AND I'M JUST AS PASSIONATE NOW THAT A POOL IS IMPORTANT.

POOLS ARE USED, OF COURSE, TO LEARN TO SWIM.

POOLS ARE USED BY THE TEAMS. I HAPPEN TO BE A WATER POLO MOM.

MY KIDS ARE LITTLE FISH AND THEY THEY GREW UP AT A POOL.

AND EVERY TIME WE'D GO TO JOE'S FOR WATER POLO, WE WOULD ALWAYS PLAY AGAINST CARLSBAD.

AND MY MOM, WHO GREW UP HERE ALSO BUT WORKED AT CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL, SHE'D SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHO I CAN ROOT FOR.

I DON'T THINK I CAN NOT ROOT AGAINST DANE, BUT THERE'S NO WAY I CAN'T ROOT AGAINST CARLSBAD. YOU HAVE A STELLAR AQUATICS PROGRAM.

ALL OF THIS LEADS TO POOLS ARE IMPORTANT.

I REALLY DO HOPE THAT YOU PRIORITIZE THE POOLS.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE POOLS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THERE EASILY.

LINDA SWIMS ALL THE TIME, AND THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS THAT SWIMMING, OF COURSE, IS A LIFETIME SPORT.

WHETHER YOU'RE IN SHAPE LIKE LINDA OR NOT, AND THAT LITTLE RED LIGHT IS FLASHING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION.

OK, THEN MOVING DOWN THE DAIS COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS (Part 2 of 2)]

SO I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION NOW THAT WE'RE BACK.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS AND I'M TRYING TO TAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SLOW. SO MY OFFICE HOURS ARE STILL ON THE PHONE AND I DO TAKE SOME TOURS AND THINGS, BUT SLOWLY, I'M NOT GOING TO JUMP BACK IN TOO QUICKLY.

IT'S PRETTY STRESSFUL WHEN YOU'VE NOT REALLY BEEN GOING TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO EASE INTO IT AND PRIORITIZE MY HEALTH AS WE ALL SHOULD BE DOING.

I DID TAKE A TOUR OF THE ENCINO WATER AUTHORITY FACILITIES YESTERDAY MORNING.

I SIT ON THE BOARD ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, SO THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY GREAT.

I THINK I SPENT ABOUT TWO HOURS WITH THE CEO WALKING THROUGH AND LEARNING WHAT IMPORTANT WORK WE DO IN ENCINO WASTEWATER AUTHORITY TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT PROPER, EFFICIENT TREATMENT OF OUR SEWAGE AND MAKING SURE THAT THE WATER THAT'S DISCHARGED INTO THE OCEAN IS IS CLEAN ENOUGH.

YOU KNOW, SO IT WAS REALLY GREAT.

I ALSO ATTENDED A POLICY AND FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING THERE THIS MORNING ON ZOOM.

WE'VE GOT OUR CITIZENS ACADEMY COMING BACK.

THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.

OUR FIRST NIGHT IS GOING TO BE THIS THURSDAY EVENING.

I ATTENDED THE CITIZENS ACADEMY ALL THE SESSIONS IN 2015, AND THAT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND IT REALLY IGNITED MY MY INTEREST IN DOING MORE IN THIS CITY WHERE I'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH GOVERNMENTS.

BUT BUT I HADN'T REALLY IN CARLSBAD, SO REALLY LEARNING AND SEEING THINGS LIKE THE TRAFFIC CAMERAS, LEARNING ABOUT THE VIDEO CAMERAS AT THE INTERSECTIONS AND HOW FORWARD THINKING CARLSBAD IS.

IT JUST MADE ME EVEN MORE PROUD TO LIVE HERE AND NOW YOU SEE ME HERE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND LASTLY, I WANTED TO MENTION SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A SPECIFIC APPOINTMENT FROM THE CITY. BUT YOU MAY KNOW THAT FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS, I'VE I'VE SAT IN MY BIO ON THE BOARD OF THE INSTITUTE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT, NONPROFIT, NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION IN SACRAMENTO THAT WORKS WITH ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND BASICALLY UPLIFTS BEST PRACTICES MODEL BEHAVIORS FOR CITIES, COUNTIES AND SPECIAL DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

IT IS A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION WITH A THINK TANK AND CONSULTANTS.

THEY DO AMAZING WORK, AND THIS PAST YEAR, IN DECEMBER, I WAS ELECTED AS THE CHAIR OF THAT BOARD FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING.

IT'S SUCH A PRESTIGIOUS INSTITUTE AND I WILL BE STARTING BY CHAIRING MY FIRST MEETING THIS FRIDAY. SO WHATEVER I LEARN THERE, I WILL BE BRINGING BACK TO THE CITY AND SHARING WITH US SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE AND VICE VERSA.

WE'RE DOING SOME REALLY FORWARD THINKING, CUTTING EDGE THINGS HERE THAT I CAN SHARE WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

SO I'M REALLY PROUD TO DO THAT FOR US.

THAT'S IT. THANKS. SURE.

THANK YOU. DR. BHAT-PATEL.

SURE. THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

SO FOR FOR MYSELF, JUST WANTED TO SHARE.

I DO ALSO HAVE OPEN OFFICE HOURS.

I WILL STILL BE CONTINUING TO DO THOSE VIA PHONE UNLESS WE SCHEDULE SOMETHING AND I'M ABLE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN IN PERSON.

I'M EXCITED FOR CITIZENS ACADEMY AS WELL.

I KNOW THAT I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THAT AND IT INSPIRED ME TO DO CERTAIN SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, TRAININGS THAT THE CITY OFFERS.

SO IT WAS REALLY AND I SHOULD ELABORATE WHAT CERT IS IF IF PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE, COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM SO REALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN THE INNER WORKINGS OF WHAT A CITY LOOKS LIKE, AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE THAT GET TO BE PART OF THAT.

I JUST REALIZED WE HAVE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME THIS WEEKEND, SO THAT'LL BE REALLY

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SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

BUT THE OTHER MEETINGS THAT I HAVE NEXT WEEK ARE GOING TO BE THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES, WHICH WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SHARE ON NEXT TUESDAY'S MEETING.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, LOOKING FORWARD TO STRATEGIC PLANNING AND CTD AND THEN THE SANDAG TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE BOARD.

THANK YOU, MR. BLACKBURN. NOTHING. THANK YOU.

OK. THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO REPORT OUT ON, AND THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A CHALLENGE TO ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE PROBABLY BEEN DOING THIS TOO LONG.

I MEAN, I'M COMING UP ON 28 YEARS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO DO IS RESPECT ONE ANOTHER, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OUR BELIEFS ARE THE SAME IS TO LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER. AND WHEN IN DOUBT, ALWAYS TRY TO GIVE THE UPPER HAND TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONVERSATION IN THIS LAST SANDAG MEETING AND SANDAG HAS BEEN CHALLENGING THIS LAST YEAR OR TWO. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN VERY CHALLENGING AND ON AN ITEM THAT REALLY WASN'T ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEMS, BUT IT WAS ITEM 12 IN THIS LAST AGENDA.

IT WAS THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM, AND THERE WAS ONE THING OUT OF PROBABLY 30 THAT I WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH, AND THAT WAS THAT A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY WAS GOING TO LOBBY TO TAKE THE CITIZENS' VOTE FROM SIXTY SIX AND TWO THIRDS DOWN TO FIFTY PERCENT PLUS ONE.

AND I ASKED, I ASKED THE CHAIR MADE A MOTION THAT COULD WE TAKE THIS ONE ITEM AND JUST VOTE ON THAT INDIVIDUALLY? AND THEN WE HAD VOTE ON THE WHOLE SLATE.

THE CONVERSATION WENT ON FOR THE BETTER PART OF 20 MINUTES OR SO.

AND THEN THE CHAIR MADE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO OVER OVERREACH MY VOTE AND JUST GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH THEY'VE NEVER LED US A VOTE ON, ON THE ITEM THAT I ASKED TO ASK TO HAVE BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.

I FOUND THAT VERY OFFENSIVE, VERY OFFENSIVE.

I WOULD NEVER CONSIDER DOING THAT TO ANYONE, NOR AS I'VE EVER SEEN IT DONE BEFORE.

SO FOR ME, THAT WAS VERY CHALLENGING.

AFTERWARDS, I MEAN, I'VE THOUGHT THIS THROUGH QUITE A BIT SINCE THEN TO THE POINT THAT I AM EVEN GOING TO ASK THAT THAT ITEM BE BROUGHT BEFORE US OR FIRST THE LEGISLATIVE FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT, LEGISLATIVE.

BUT MAYBE MY THINKING IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THIS BOARD.

AND BEFORE I GET TOO OUTSPOKEN ON THIS THAT I NEED TO HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU AS TO WHETHER I'M REPRESENTING THIS BODY, THIS CITY IN CONCURRENCE TO WHAT YOU THINK.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BASED ON WHAT THE TIME ALLOCATION IS FROM, FROM STAFF THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE NEXT 30 45 DAYS.

BUT ALL I CAN SAY IS I WAS EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED.

AND ONE THING I REALIZE WHATEVER BOARD WE SIT ON, IT TAKES A VAST MAJORITY.

IT TAKES USUALLY AT LEAST 70 80 PERCENT OF THE BOARD TO BE IN ALLIANCE TO GET ANYTHING DONE. AND ON THIS BOARD, WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND ASK THE COMMUNITY FOR ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY PLUS BILLION DOLLARS TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THE COLLABORATION OF AT LEAST 80 PERCENT OF THIS BOARD TO BE IN LOCKSTEP.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE NOT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO TO ME, I FELT THIS VERY IMPORTANT AND I WANTED TO BRING IT BACK JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT. ALSO, I NEED TO ANNOUNCE THAT.

AND AS WE'VE SAID JUST EARLIER THAT THIS THURSDAY, THE CITIZENS ACADEMY'S FIRST SESSION WILL BE RIGHT HERE IN THESE CHAMBERS AT 5:00 P.M.

SO MR. BLACKBURN.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CHANGING THE VOTE FROM SIXTY SIX TO FIFTY PERCENT, YOU'RE REFERRING TO FOR INCREASE IN TAXES.

THAT'S CORRECT. I'M SORRY IT WASN'T CLEAR THERE, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT SANDAG, AND THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT BECAUSE OF BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A TAX RIGHT NOW.

THE STATE IS UNLESS IT'S PUT ON BY UNLESS IT'S PUT ON BY THE CITIZENS OF IT'S PUT ON BY THE CITIZENS, THEN IT'S FIFTY PLUS ONE.

BUT WE, AS AN AGENCY REPRESENTING THE AGENCY, SHOULD NOT BE LOBBYING AGAINST OUR OWN CITIZENRY. SO WITH THAT MR. CHADWICK MS. BREWER. CITY CLERK, NOTHING AT THIS TIME, THANK YOU.

I CAN'T TELL EVERYONE HOW GREAT IT IS TO BE BACK IN THESE CHAMBERS.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING TONIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR INPUT.

WE STAND ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.