YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'D LIKE TO CALL TODAY'S MEETING TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE BACK TO THIS MEETING.AND WITH THAT, IF THE CLERK COULD PLEASE TAKE ROLL.
SO I'M GOING TO KEEP MY REMARKS SHORT AND JUST TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO SCOTT.
ALL RIGHT. AND MARY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH DOING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I'M SORRY. PLEASE RISE DEEPLY.
[1. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PRIORITIES]
SO I'M ACTUALLY WORKING OFF A TWO SHEETS HERE, SO FORGIVE ME.SO, MR. CHADWICK, YOU'RE UP NEXT.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND GOOD AFTERNOON.
TODAY, WE'RE CONTINUING OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PRIORITIES.
CURLEY HERE TO FACILITATE THE DISCUSSION.
NOW, ALL THE PROJECTS ON YOUR LIST ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
IN SOME CASES, PROJECTS ARE FULLY RESOURCED AND CANNOT BE COMPLETED SOONER THAN THE DATE LISTED.
SO EVEN WHEN WE HIRE CONTRACTORS TO WORK ON PROJECTS, CITY STAFF STILL MUST OVERSEE THIS WORK.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO SUMMER.
JUST GRAB MY MIKE CAN HEAR ME.
GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HAPPY TO BE BACK WITH YOU AGAIN TODAY ON THE SUPER PRETTY DAY.
IT'D BE NICE IF WE WERE OUTSIDE AND NOT INSIDE, BUT HERE WE ARE.
AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE PUBLIC THAT CAME BACK OUT.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD TO CONTINUE THE MEETING FROM LAST WEDNESDAY UNTIL TODAY.
AND SO I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE FAMILIAR FACES FOR COMING BACK OUT HERE TODAY.
SO WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION LAST WEDNESDAY TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE CIP PROJECTS ARE AT AND WHERE THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANY CHANGES MADE, EITHER ACCELERATING OR DECELERATING TIMELINES.
AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THROUGH THAT CONVERSATION.
SO THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE OF WHERE THIS PIECE OF THE PUZZLE REALLY FITS IN TODAY.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS IDENTIFIED AND ANSWERED AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH HAVING STAFF HERE TO ADDRESS THOSE AND THEN TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE DIFFERENT ACTION IN WHAT THESE FIVE YEAR PROJECTS LOOK LIKE.
AS CITY MANAGER CHADWICK SHARED, WHERE THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON RESOURCES OR WHERE STAFF TIME IS SPENT AS APPROPRIATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET DONE WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE IN THIS FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN TIMELINE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR CLARITY AND ALIGNMENT TODAY.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M AIMING TOWARDS IN A TIGHT TIME FRAME.
I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN JUST A SECOND.
WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FROM STAFF THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING.
THEN WE'LL TAKE SOME TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WELCOME THE PUBLIC UP TO SPEAK.
AND THEN WE WILL SHIFT TO A LISTING OF WHICH PROJECTS THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO POTENTIALLY TAKE ACTION ON OR HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT. SO I'LL IDENTIFY THAT LIST OF PROJECTS AND AT THAT POINT, ASK THE COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THEY MAY HAVE ON THOSE PROJECTS AND TAKE A
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BRIEF BREAK SO THAT WE CAN ORDER THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT.AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS THOSE AND ANY MOTIONS, ANY ACTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE BASED UPON ACCELERATING OR DECELERATING A TIMELINE, TAKING SOMETHING OFF THE LIST, OR POTENTIALLY ADDING SOMETHING TO THE LIST.
AND THEN IN MAY, THE STAFF WILL COME BACK WITH WHAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE OR HOW THEY COULD POTENTIALLY SHIFT RESOURCES IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO THAT'S THE FLOW OF THE SESSION WITH A HARD STOP AT 2:00 BECAUSE OF THE NEXT MEETING THAT'S COMING.
THESE ARE PROJECTS. THERE'S 55 PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING WOULD BE PART OF THAT FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN AND THAT WE'D ASK YOU TO IDENTIFY ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
AND THE ONES THAT ARE NUMBER 1 TO 8 OR THE ONES THAT ARE IN BLUE ARE ONES THAT WE TACKLED LAST WEEK.
SO WE HAD QUESTIONS ANSWERED ON THOSE.
AND JUST FOR EFFICIENCY SAKE, WE KIND OF ORDERED THESE TRIED TO GROUP THEM TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT, AND WE PUT THE INITIALS OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER BEHIND THE PROJECT SO WE CAN QUICKLY GO TO COUNCIL.
MEMBER BHAT-PATEL, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THIS PROJECT, OF COURSE, OTHER QUESTIONS ARE FULLY AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO ASK, BUT THAT'S THE ORDER IN WHICH WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN PUT THIS AS THE BACKDROP, PUT IT BACK UP THERE FOR YOU TO HAVE AT THE FOREFRONT OF YOUR MIND OF HOW WE ENGAGE IN RESPECTFUL, COLLEGIAL, COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATION WITH ONE ANOTHER HERE TODAY.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE PREPARED DEPUTY CITY MANAGER PAZ GOMEZ IS HERE AND SHE HAS PREPARED IF THERE ARE QUICK KIND OF GENERAL CONVERSATION OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THESE RELATED TO TIMELINE, SCOPE, SIZE AND OR CURRENT STATUS, SHE CAN QUICKLY ADDRESS THOSE. SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WHERE YOUR QUESTION LIES, IF YOU CAN JUST FLAG THAT FOR US AND I'LL TURN IT TO PAUSE TO ADDRESS THOSE.
SO COUNCILMEMBER BHAT-PATEL, LOVE YOURS, IS ACTUALLY NEXT UP HERE ON THE LIST IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY FOR US IF IT IS A MORE GENERAL ROLL COVERAGE YOU'D LIKE US TO DO IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR ALL OF MINE LISTED.
AND THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER MORE ELABORATE QUESTIONS THAN THAT.
EXCELLENT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR CONFIRMATION.
I THINK YOU JUST CONFIRMED IT FOR ME, BUT I THINK THERE MAY BE AN ERROR IN THAT.
I DON'T SEE MY INITIALS NEXT TO SEVERAL OF THE ITEMS THAT I SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT, LIKE STAGECOACH COMMUNITY GARDEN IN MY DISTRICT, LIKE THE SOUTH SHORE, IOWA, THE ON THE LAGOON TRAIL.
OKAY. I MEAN, I SUPPOSE IT DOESN'T.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I ACTUALLY PUT THOSE ON THE LIST AND I DIDN'T SEE MY INITIALS THERE.
THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. AND WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ASK WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE WHEN WE GET TO THAT PIECE, IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING MORE GENERAL THAT PAZ IS ABLE TO ANSWER. GREAT.
GLAD TO CORRECT FOR THE RECORD.
OKAY. SO, YES, MAYOR HALL? JUST IN GENERAL, WERE WE GOING TO GET A PAGE ON WHAT IS GROWTH MANAGEMENT THAT IS TIED DIRECTLY TO GROWTH MANAGEMENT? WE CAN COVER THAT IN AS WE TURN OVER TO PAUSE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
ALSO IN THE PAST, THERE'S BEEN TALK AND I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THIS LIST OF CHESTNUT FROM CHESTNUT OVER THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY.
WE CAN HAVE STAFF COMMENT ON THAT.
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ALL RIGHT. SO SHOULD WE.GO AHEAD, PAZ, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
AND IF WE CAN QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THESE PROJECTS WITH THE GENERAL TIMELINE, HIGH LEVEL SCOPE STATUS, AND THEN IF YOU DO HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT THOSE, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS PRETTY RAPIDLY TO GET THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED SO WE CAN STICK TO OUR TIMELINE OR REDUCE [INAUDIBLE].
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M PAZ GOMEZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR PUBLIC WORKS WHO OVERSEE THE CIP PROGRAM.
SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY RECOMMENDED ACTION YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
AND SO I AM GOING TO REALLY GO QUICKLY ON TO THE VERY FIRST PROJECT.
SO AVENIDA ENCINAS COASTAL RAIL TRAIL AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS IS AN EXPANSION OF EXISTING BICYCLE FACILITIES TO BUFFERED BIKE LANES, ALSO INCLUDES NEW SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN RAMPS, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE POINSETTIA COASTER STATION AND MAY INCLUDE WIDENING TO ACCOMMODATE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC CALMING.
AND WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION FOR AN ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF 9 MILLION.
THE CURRENT STATUS IS IT'S UNDER DESIGNED WITH AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF 2025.
DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE ON OR PAUSE FOR EACH PROJECT? I WILL CONTINUE ON.
SO NEXT IS THE AVENIDA ENCINAS PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PREVIOUS RAPID RECTANGULAR FLASHING BEACON CROSSWALK FEATURE NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION IS NO LONGER NECESSARY SINCE A DEVELOPER TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL PROVIDE SAFE CROSSING.
THERE IS A LITTLE NOTE ABOUT THERE'S A SEPARATE OTHER PROJECT AT THAT SAME INTERSECTION.
THAT'S THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, AVENIDA ENCINAS IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT'S REFERENCING THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN INTERSECTION WITH A LEFT TURN POCKET AND A RIGHT TURN OVERLAP.
NEXT IS THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD REALIGNMENT, WHICH IS FROM MANZANO DRIVE TO ISLAND WAY.
SO THE SCOPE IS TO PREPARE STUDIES, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES REGARDING ROADWAY REALIGNMENT ALTERNATIVES, INCLUDING A NEW INTERSECTION AT PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD.
THERE IS A SEPARATE PROJECT FROM THE SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTLINE, WHICH WILL START FROM FROM THE ISLAND WAY SOUTH TO THE BORDER, AND THAT'S CALLED THE SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTLINE ROAD REALIGNMENT AND PUBLIC SPACES, WHICH I WILL TOUCH ON SHORTLY.
AND THE REASON FOR THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO IS THE MANZANO DRIVE TO ISLAND WAY IS PART OF THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD CLIMATE ADAPTATION STUDY THAT'S ONGOING THAT WILL BE REPORTING TO CITY COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY OF 2023.
SO THE ESTIMATE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PORTION, WHICH IS ABOUT A ONE MILE SECTION, IS $1,000,000 OF FUNDING AVAILABLE SO FAR WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES.
AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE ARE TARGETING POTENTIALLY GOING FOR GRANT FUNDING.
SO NEXT IS THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WHICH HAS THE SCOPE OF CONSTRUCTING OFFICE SPACES TO CENTRALIZE FIRE DEPARTMENT MANAGEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION STAFF THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING OUT OF VARIOUS CITY LOCATIONS.
THE COST IS 150,000 OF GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUNDS, WHICH IS REALLY JUST TO STUDY WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE NOT YET STARTED ON THIS PROJECT AND THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE IS 2026.
NEXT IS THE FLEET MAINTENANCE REFURBISHMENT PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES STRUCTURAL MODIFICATION AND REFURBISHMENT, HVAC AND TENANT IMPROVEMENT WORK. IT ADDRESSES DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUES AS WELL AS REFURBISH EXISTING SYSTEMS WHICH HAVE REACHED THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE.
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THE COST OF $3 MILLION IS TO BE FUNDED WITH INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT FUND OR IRF AND GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUNDS, GCC, AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF 700,000 IS NEEDED FOR AN ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF 3.7 MILLION.IT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PLANNING STAGE WITH AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF 2025.
THE SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTLINE ROAD REALIGNMENT AND PUBLIC SPACES, WHICH I HAD MENTIONED A FEW SECONDS AGO, INVOLVES AN INVESTIGATIVE STUDY OF FUTURE ROADWAY REALIGNMENT ALTERNATIVES, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, LAND USES, PUBLIC PARK AND COASTAL ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES AND RELATED LONG TERM COASTAL PLANNING ISSUES, CONSTRAINTS AND PROCESSES. WILL ANALYZE MORE DETAILED ALTERNATIVES.
THE FUNDING SO FAR IS OVER $2.8 MILLION.
THE FUNDING SOURCE IS TRANSNET LOC STANDS FOR LOCAL FUNDS AND THE ADDITIONAL ESTIMATED WOULD BE OVER $80 MILLION. AND IT IS REALLY EARLY IN THE PLANNING STAGE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 60 TO $85 MILLION.
IT IS REALLY EARLY IN THE PHASE AND DEPENDING ON THAT, WE WILL ESTIMATE COMPLETION IN 2030.
THE SOUTH SHORE AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON TRAIL INVOLVES RECREATIONAL TRAIL PLANNED FROM I-5 NEW BRIDGE CROSSING TO THE BLUFF TOP WITHIN HUB PARK OVERLOOKING THE LAGOON.
IT INCLUDES DECOMPOSED GRANITE SURFACE TRAIL EDGING AND BASIC TRAILHEAD AMENITIES SUCH AS TRAIL IDENTIFICATION AND REGULATION SIGNS, DOG STATIONS AND RECYCLING SLASH TRASH RECEPTACLES.
WE HAVE FUNDING SO FAR OF $790,000 OF GCC.
WE ARE LOOKING AT AN ADDITIONAL $4 MILLION AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT THE STATUS OF PLANNING TRAIL DEVELOPMENT, SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO IS SDG&E.
AND ON NOVEMBER 16TH OF 2021, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO REENGAGE REFS ON CONSTRAINTS OR CONCERNS IN AN EFFORT TO GAIN GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO ESTIMATE A COMPLETION DATE IS 2024.
NEXT IS THE STAGECOACH PARK COMMUNITY GARDEN, WHICH WILL CONVERT AN UNDERUTILIZED MAINTENANCE YARD INTO A RAISED CONTAINER COMMUNITY GARDEN WITH 20 PLUS RAISED PLANTING BEDS, IRRIGATION, PERIMETER FENCING AND LIGHTING, SECURITY CAMERAS, A SHADE STRUCTURE, EDUCATIONAL KIOSK, COMPOSTING BINS, TOOL STORAGE TABLES AND BENCHES AND ADDRESSES THE DEMAND FOR COMMUNITY GARDENS IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO FUNDING.
BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PARK IN LIEU SOUTHWEST QUADRANT FUNDING.
ADDITIONAL FUNDING NEEDED IS 500,000.
IT'S IN THE PLANNING STAGE AND A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING ONLY WITH AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF 2024.
NEXT IS THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE ARE INITIATING, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE FOR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WHERE EVERY YEAR WE WOULD HAVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS FOR EACH PROGRAM.
IT WILL ESTABLISH THE ANNUAL PROGRAM PENDING COMPLETION OF PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING COSTING STUDY AND THE CURRENT PROJECT FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL INCLUDE LOCATIONS SUCH AS CANYON ROAD AND PASEO DEL NORTE, JEFFERSON STREET, LA CASA AVENUE, LAS FLORES STREET AND TAMARACK AVENUE.
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT IS AN ONGOING PROGRAM.
CAN YOU PAUSE RIGHT THERE? YES, MA'AM. YES, THANK YOU.
JUST BRIEFLY ON ON THAT, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, ARE SOME OF THE CIP PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ALSO INCORPORATED INTO THIS? BECAUSE I KNOW MANY OF THEM ARE IDENTIFYING MULTIMODAL TRANSIT OPTIONS AS IMPROVEMENTS.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF SOME OF THEM ARE FEEDING INTO THAT AS WELL?
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CORRECT. YES. SO THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY WITH SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, THIS IS OUR MEANS OF BEING ABLE TO TO EXECUTE THEM AND ROLL THEM INTO AN ONGOING ANNUAL PROGRAM.SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE UTILITY UNDERGROUNDING PROGRAM, WHICH IS TO PREPARE A STUDY TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE APPROACHES, TO FUND AND IMPLEMENT THE UNDERGROUNDING OF OVERHEAD UTILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
IT WILL IMPROVE COMMUNITY DESIGN, CHARACTER AND SAFETY ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
FUNDING THAT HAD BEEN SET ASIDE IS 100,000 OF GCQ OR GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION.
WE WILL NEED AN ADDITIONAL 400,000 OR 500,000 AND FOR A TOTAL OF 500,000.
IT HAS NOT YET STARTED, BUT THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION IS 2025.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR THE STUDY.
IT ISN'T TO UNDERGROUND ANY UTILITY.
IT IS BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING AVAILABILITY THAT IS THROUGH THE RULE OF 20A PROGRAM WITH SDG&E.
NEXT IS THE VALLEY AND MAGNOLIA COMPLETE STREETS.
THE SCOPE IS TO CONSTRUCT SIDEWALKS, BIKE PATHS AND GREEN STREET FEATURES AND TO PLACE UTILITIES UNDERGROUND TO REPLACE WATER MAIN AND TO CLOSE GAPS IN PEDESTRIAN ROUTES FOR STUDENTS ATTENDING CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL, VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND MAGNOLIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE COST IS $4.8 MILLION TO HAVE BEEN FUNDED SO FAR.
WE DO HAVE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES, WATER REPLACEMENT FEES, AS WELL AS TRANSNET, LOCAL FEES AVAILABLE.
ADDITIONAL NEEDED IS OVER $3 MILLION FOR A TOTAL COST OF 8 MILLION.
IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN AND WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF 2026.
WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR MAYOR HALL.
YES, SIR. QUESTION OR MAYBE A STATEMENT.
I CAN REMEMBER GOING BACK 20 YEARS AND HAVING THIS SLIDE MAYBE 25 YEARS.
BE CAREFUL. THIS COULD BE A LANDMINE.
AND THE REASON THAT ISN'T DONE TODAY IS BECAUSE OF THE LANDOWNERS WHO ABUT THOSE STREETS.
SO JUST A POINT OF NOTORIETY, IF YOU WILL.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND THE LAST PROJECT IS THE NEW CITY HALL AND CIVIC COMPLEX, WHICH IS THE CITY HALL WAS BUILT IN 1967 AND HAS SINCE EXPANDED OPERATIONS TO MULTIPLE LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY, INCLUDING THIS BUILDING.
WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL $20.7 MILLION FOR AN ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF 71.7.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE PLANNING STAGE AND SO STAFF WILL BE PRESENTING TO CITY COUNCIL THIS SUMMER FOR SITE SELECTION AMONG THE FOUR SITES RIGHT NOW. ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE IS 2029.
COUNCIL MEMBER KIEFER. I LIKE THAT, KIEFER.
SOMEBODY CONTACTED ME AND SAID, SUCK IT UP.
STAY IN AN OLD CITY HALL WITH $51 MILLION.
WE CAN DO A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
EXPLAIN ABOUT HOW THAT MONEY WAS ACQUIRED AND WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND IT ON.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP MR. BARBERIO TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY BEHIND CFD NUMBER ONE, PLEASE.
SO THE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCE FOR CITY HALL WOULD BE THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, WHICH WAS A DISTRICT SET UP, I BELIEVE, IN THE EIGHTIES.
AND IT WAS INTENDED TO FUND A LIST OF SPECIFIC PROJECTS OF WHICH THERE ARE FOUR PROJECTS REMAINING.
ONE IS CITY HALL, ONE IS VETERANS PARK, COAL LIBRARY, REBUILD.
AND I ALWAYS FORGET THE FOURTH ONE.
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I SAID VETERANS.OH, I'M SORRY, PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.
IT FUNDED A LIST OF A TOTAL OF NINE OTHER PROJECTS.
SO A TOTAL OF 13 PROJECTS, I BELIEVE.
SO IT CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE THAN THOSE FOUR REMAINING FACILITIES.
SO IF WE DON'T SPEND IT ON CITY HALL AND IT DOESN'T GET USED FOR THE OTHER FACILITIES, IN LEGAL THEORY, IT WOULD NEED TO BE RETURNED TO THOSE WHO PAID IT. GREAT.
WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER, NORBY AND THEN MAYOR HALL.
THANK YOU. SO THE THE FUNDING SO FAR AT 51 MILLION, DOES THAT INCLUDE ANY OF THE I GUESS I WOULD SAY WITH CITY HALL, I KNOW THERE ARE FOUR LOCATIONS, BUT IN MY MIND THERE'S PROBABLY TWO THAT WILL RISE TO THE TOP.
AND SO IF ONE IS CHOSEN, THEN THE OTHER ONE NO LONGER IS NECESSARY.
LET'S JUST SAY THE FARMERS BUILDING OR THE EXISTING CITY HALL IF WE MOVE IT.
SO DOES THAT FUNDING SO FAR INCLUDE THE LAND VALUE, ASSUMING WE WERE TO DISPOSE OF A PROPERTY THAT WE'VE BEEN HOLDING FOR CITY HALL? WHAT THE NUMBERS YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE LAND VALUE.
SO IT REALLY I HATE TO GIVE AN ANSWER.
IT DEPENDS, BUT IT DOES ON WHICH SITE IS CHOSEN.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE BOUGHT THE FARMERS PROPERTY TO BE CITY HALL.
WE BOUGHT IT WITH COMMUNITY FACILITIES, DISTRICT FUNDS.
SO THAT IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT WAS BOUGHT WITH CFD NUMBER ONE FUNDS FOR CITY HALL.
THE OTHER THREE SITES, THIS SITE THAT WE'RE IN HERE, THIS WAS ACTUALLY BOUGHT WITH PUBLIC FACILITY FEE FUNDS AND THOSE ARE MORE GENERAL. SO WE COULD THE MAJORITY OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THIS BUILDING WOULD BE LOCATED IN THE NEW CITY HALL.
THE REMAINDER WOULD WOULD BE IN THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, THE RYAN CENTER.
BUT WE COULD LEASE THIS BUILDING OUT AND USE THAT REVENUE TO PAY FOR CITY HALL.
WE COULD SELL THIS PROPERTY, USE THAT REVENUE FOR CITY HALL.
IT'S VERY NOT AS PRESCRIPTIVE AS THE CFD FUNDS AND THEN PINE AND EXISTING CITY HALL SITE WHERE LONG TIME OWNERSHIP AND BOUGHT WITH JUST GENERAL FUNDS.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY CITY HALL CIVIC CENTER, IS THAT BEING THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER? SO WHEN THE COUNCIL ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED A CITY HALL GOAL, THEY DID THAT THE FIRST YEAR.
AND THE SECOND YEAR THEY AMENDED THE GOAL TO SAY THEY WANTED TO PURSUE A CITY HALL ON A SITE THAT WAS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE A CIVIC CENTER, TRYING TO CREATE A PLACE, A SENSE OF PLACE.
THE DEFINITION OF WHAT'S IN A CIVIC CENTER IS IS LEFT TO BE DETERMINED, CLEARLY WOULD INCLUDE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE BUILDING OF A CITY HALL, AND IT COULD INCLUDE OTHER THINGS, LIKE IF IT WAS THE EXISTING CITY HALL LOCATION, THE COLE LIBRARY, REBUILD.
AND SO WHEN WE COME TO THE COUNCIL, PROBABLY BEFORE YOUR SUMMER BREAK WITH AN UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT, IF NOT, THEN RIGHT AFTER YOUR BREAK, WE WILL BE TELLING YOU AND PRESENTING TO YOU INFORMATION THAT TELLS YOU IF WE LOCATED CITY HALL ON EACH OF THE FOUR SITES, WHAT KIND OF LAND AREA WOULD BE AVAILABLE STILL REMAINING TO TO ACCOMMODATE A CIVIC CENTER THAT COULD INCLUDE PERFORMING ARTS, LIBRARY, OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES.
AND MY ONLY CONCERN IS, I'M SURE THE 71 MILLION IS JUST CITY HALL.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING ELSE.
YES. AND THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FORM WE'RE USING FOR ALL THIS INFORMATION THAT'S REALLY ESTIMATED OF WHAT FUNDING WE WE ARE PRETTY CERTAIN THAT WILL COME FROM CFD NUMBER ONE.
THAT IS NOT WHAT A CITY HALL WILL COST.
WE GAVE THE COUNCIL IN 2017 A FUNDING AND COST ANALYSIS PRESENTATION, AND AT THAT TIME WE HAD A PER
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SQUARE FOOT RANGE OF WHAT CITY HALL'S IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AT THAT TIME.AND WE ALSO PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN 2019-2020 TIME FRAME A SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS.
NOW THAT SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS GAVE US A NUMBER OF GAVE US A SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBER OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD NEED TO ACCOMMODATE EXISTING CITY STAFF AT THAT TIME AND BUILD OUT THROUGH BUILT OUT NOW THAT WAS DONE PRE-COVID PRE TELECOMMUTING SO THAT NUMBER IS PROBABLY HIGH BUT BASED ON THAT SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS AND THAT 2017 AND SOME UPDATED NUMBERS WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU SOON.
I THINK THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR A CITY HALL, THE SIZE THAT WILL PROBABLY NEED IT WILL BE PROBABLY IN THE 100 TO 120 MILLION RANGE. BUT WE DO HAVE THE CFD FUND AS A MAJOR SOURCE OF THAT FUNDING.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SITE.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE SITE.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DEPTH THAT YOU JUST WENT INTO.
GARY. SO MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS REMIND ME, LAST WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT HOW MANY NEW EMPLOYEES.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
AND THE ANSWER IS, I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS, HOLD ON.
LAURA. DO YOU HAVE A TOTAL AMOUNT OF FTE AT.
AND THEN HE USED A NUMBER OF MANAGEMENT, NEW EMPLOYEES.
OF THAT, HOW MANY WERE THOSE MANAGERS? WE DID NOT HAVE THE AMOUNT OF MANAGERS AT THAT POINT.
WHEN WE DISCLOSED THE 70 LAST TIME, I CAN GET THAT.
THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING THIS, ALL YOUR ANALYSIS WERE DONE PRIOR TO THESE HIRES.
SO YEAH, SO WE DID WE DID PROJECT FROM THE 2019-2020 TIMEFRAME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER TWO, BUT WE'LL BE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION AGAIN WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH AN UPDATE.
BUT AGAIN, I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THAT NEEDS A SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WE DID WAS PRE-COVID WE PROBABLY NEED TO REEVALUATE THAT WE'RE IN ABOUT AND I'M SAYING THIS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE EMPLOYEES WE THINK OR THE GROUPS WE THINK WILL BE GOING TO CITY HALL.
SO MOST OF THE FARADAY BUILDING, ALL THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY HOUSED AT CITY HALL, PARKS AND REC, ADMIN, LIBRARY ADMIN WHO WERE AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, WHEN YOU TOTAL ALL THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE UP EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE, IT'S ABOUT 95,000-ISH, THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE PROJECTING THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT PROJECTED 141,000 SQUARE FEET.
I WOULD SAY THAT'S HIGH, THOUGH.
SO AND IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THERE WAS SOME EXCESS SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR GROWTH.
I REMEMBER YOU GIVEN US THAT NUMBER ALSO.
AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE PART OF YOUR ESTIMATES.
YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR HALL, FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
THAT'LL HELP INFORM THE CONVERSATION IN JUNE TIME FRAME.
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COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THIS? I DID WHAT I HEARD.I MEAN, I GUESS FOR MY 20% HERE, I'D LIKE TO END THE DISCUSSION.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LIBRARY FOR PROBABLY 25 YEARS PLUS NOW.
A LIBRARY OR CITY HALL? I'M SORRY. CITY HALL.
AND I'D LIKE THIS COUNCIL TO KIND OF GET ON WITH IT, MAKE A DECISION.
AND SO BASED ON WHAT I HEARD, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TIMING NOT MAKING THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
SO IF WE CAN'T GET THERE BUT COUNCIL DESIRES TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE ELECTION, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT IN NOVEMBER OR IS THIS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS ANOTHER TWO YEARS DOWN THE LINE BEFORE WE DEAL WITH IT? BECAUSE AGAIN, AS A CITIZEN, I'VE BEEN HEARING CITY HALL FOR 25 YEARS AND I'D LIKE TO GET ON WITH IT.
[INAUDIBLE] TO RESPOND TO THAT IT'S WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH A REPORT.
THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT SOMETHING FOR AN ADVISORY VOTE, I BELIEVE, IS IN AUGUST.
I WANT TO SAY IT'S AUGUST 12TH.
AND JUST ALSO A QUICK THOUGHT.
CITY HALL, ALTHOUGH SOME OF US WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN IT BUILT 20 YEARS AGO, REALLY THE IDEA BY WAITING IS SO WE WOULD KNOW THE ULTIMATE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET WE NEED TO CREATE THE RIGHT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
SO AS TIME GOES ON, COUNCILS CHANGE, STATE DEMANDS GET GREATER, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
YOU WOULD HATE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND END UP BEING 10% SHORT OR SOMETHING.
SO THERE IS SOME METHOD TO THE TO THE REASON WE'RE DOING IT THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT.
THANK YOU, JUST A REALLY FAST FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MATT'S QUESTION WAS ABOUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THAT REALLY IS IRRELEVANT.
WE'RE JUST WHAT I WANT TO HEAR IS HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL BE AT CITY HALL.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE EMPLOYEES WE HIRED ARE POLICE, FIRE MECHANICS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HOUSED AT CITY HALL.
YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? SORRY. NO WORRIES.
DO WE HAVE ESTIMATES AROUND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? I KNOW WE DID FOR MONROE STREET POOL, BUT JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THIS ADVISORY VOTE AS WELL IF WE DID END UP ADDING THAT IF I UNDERSTOOD COUNCIL OR COUNCILMAN NORBY QUESTIONED, IT WAS REALLY AROUND SITE SELECTION ADVISORY NOT SIMILAR TO MONROE, WHICH WOULD BE A PROP H VOTE.
WE WE FIGURE OUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE.
SO I THINK WHAT COUNCILMEMBER NORBY WAS REFERRING TO WAS AN ADVISORY VOTE ABOUT WHICH LOCATION AND THEN IF WE NEEDED A PROP VOTE, THAT WOULD COME LATER. SURE.
AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAD WAS, IS THERE ARE THERE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH AN ADVISORY VOTE? AND IF SO, WHAT THOSE WOULD BE? WE ADVISORY VOTE.
OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COVERED AS FAR AS.
YES, COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA? YES. THANK YOU.
AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT THE FUNDING SOURCES COLUMN IS INCLUDED IN THIS BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL PACKET, BUT THERE'S STILL OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES. AND I KNOW FROM FROM SOME OF OUR RECENT CONVERSATIONS FROM THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT EVEN WHEN WE'RE GOING TO OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, THEY WANT TO SEE PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE PUT IN MATCHING FUNDING.
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AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO FUND ANYWAY.LIKE RIGHT NOW IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOME YEARS IT'S SEA LEVEL RISE RELATED OR IT'S PARKS RELATED.
AND CAN I FOLLOW UP ON IT? THAT'S A VERY GOOD AND I THINK EVEN FOR NOT ONLY FOR OUR KNOWLEDGE, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY'S KNOWLEDGE.
AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING LAST TIME, WHEN SCOTT SAYS, OH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE OVER $1,000,000,000.
I MEAN, THAT SENT ME BACK TO MY CHAIR AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME.
SO THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THOUGHT.
YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER NORBY? THANK YOU. ON THE SOUTH SHORE, AGUA CALIENTE LAGOON TRAIL.
I KNOW THAT WAS BEFORE COUNCIL SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
AND I REMEMBER THE STAFF REPORT AND IT WAS JUST THAT WE WEREN'T WE WEREN'T IN AGREEMENT.
AND SO HAVE WE. HAVE WE MOVED THAT BALL AT ALL AND WE GOTTEN CLOSER TO SOME AGREEMENTS WITH, AS WE CONSIDER WHETHER WE SHOULD MOVE THIS UP OR SLOW IT DOWN OR FUND IT OR NOT OR WE WHERE WE WERE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. MR. LANCASTER IS COMING UP TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
KYLE LANCASTER PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.
WE RECEIVED COUNCIL DIRECTION TO GO BACK AND REENGAGE THE INTEREST GROUPS, IN PARTICULAR SDG&E AS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SEE IF WE COULD GAIN GREATER FLEXIBILITY WITH THE CONSTRAINTS AND CONCERNS THEY HAD OVER THE TRAIL ALIGNMENT.
IF YOU RECALL, SDG&E WOULD NO LONGER ALLOW US TO CONTINUE BEYOND THE HUB PARK PROPERTY.
THEY ALSO WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO USE THE EXISTING ACCESS ROADS DOUBLING AS TRAILS.
INSTEAD, WE HAD TO MODIFY OUR TRAIL DESIGN, REDUCE IT BY APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE OF THE ORIGINAL 2.5 MILES, AND THAT INVOLVED SIGNIFICANT HABITAT IMPACT AND THEREFORE RESTORATION MITIGATION.
SO HAVING SAID ALL THAT, WE HAVE REENGAGED WITH SDG&E ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS, MOST RECENTLY JUST LAST WEEK, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FURTHER FLEXIBILITY FROM THEM IN TERMS OF THE TRAIL ALIGNMENT OR CONTINUING BEYOND THE HUB PARK PROPERTY.
THE ONLY MOVEMENT THAT I RECEIVED WAS A DESCRIPTION OF THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPLORING A DIRT PARKING LOT AT THE ADJACENT STRAWBERRY FIELDS PROPERTY.
THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC DECISION THAT WOULD OCCUR, SIMPLY THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO EXPLORE IT.
THERE WERE NO COSTS PROVIDED WITH THAT.
SO IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL PROJECT, THE 3.7 MILLION LOW END OF THE RANGE THAT WE GAVE YOU IN THE SLIDE, THAT'S THE SAME NUMBER THAT WE GAVE YOU IN NOVEMBER THAT DID NOT INCLUDE A PARKING LOT AT THAT TIME.
THANK YOU. ANY REMAINING QUESTIONS ON PROJECTS YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR? OK.
WOULD WE LIKE TO GO TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT LIST SO THAT I KNOW THAT WAS ONE THAT MAYOR HALL HAD REQUESTED? SURE. OKAY. OOPS.
AND I CAN GO DOWN THE LIST, BUT THERE ARE 13 OF THEM THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, [INAUDIBLE] AND SEEN AS COASTAL RAIL TRAIL AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARAC AVENUE, PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS TO COLE LIBRARY EXPANSION, COLLEGE BOULEVARD EXTENSION, EL CAMINO REAL AND CANYON ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
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EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING FROM POINSETTIA LANE TO CAMINO EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING FROM ARENAL ROAD TO LA COSTA AVENUE, MELROSE DRIVE RIGHT TURN LANE TO WESTBOUND PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD AND AVENIDA ENCINAS IMPROVEMENTS.SEWER MONITORING PROGRAM AND TRAFFIC MONITORING PROGRAM AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT LIST.
SO WHEN I SEE THIS LIST, IT TELLS ME THAT 60 TO 80% OF THIS IS PROBABLY BEING FUNDED BY DEVELOPERS.
SO I GUESS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION WOULD BE HOW MUCH OF THAT DO WE HAVE WE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED BY GETTING THE MONEY FROM DEVELOPERS IN ORDER TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD IT? HOW MUCH WE'RE SHORT.
AND THEN SOME OF THOSE THE DEVELOPMENT HASN'T EVEN OCCURRED YET TO TRIGGER THE TO TRIGGER THE THE PROJECT I.E.
SO JUST AS I'M THINKING THINGS THROUGH, MY PRIORITY WOULD ALWAYS BE GROWTH MANAGEMENT FIRST WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE TRIGGERS AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT, I.E.
DEVELOPER FEES, AND THE IMPROVEMENT WAS TO COME IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE AND SO THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, TAKING OUT OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MONEY OR OTHER FUNDS.
SO IT'S MORE OR LESS INFORMATION FOR FURTHER ON DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE, BUT IN PRIORITIZATION.
SO I THINK WE NOW, MAYOR, WERE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY JOHN PIMENTEL.
HELLO. I QUESTION EVERYTHING STARTING WITH STEP ONE.
MY WIFE WOULD HAVE MY WIFE'S RETIRED TEACHER 39 YEARS.
THERE'S A LOT OF TALENT, A LOT OF EDUCATION ON THE CITY PAYROLL.
NEXT, MATT HALL, YOU'RE ONE OF THE MOST DECENT PEOPLE I'VE EVER KNOWN.
AND I THANK YOU, SIR. AND YOU'VE MADE SOME COMMENTS HERE TODAY THAT I THINK ARE VERY GOOD.
NOW, THAT REMINDS YOU IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, YOU WALK A QUARTER MILE TO THE SOUTH, CROSS SAFELY THERE.
HE'S GOT THIS WONDERFUL PLAN THAT HE WORKED OUT WITH MR. WILKINSON, WHERE PEDESTRIAN TUNNEL WILL BE BOARD UNDER THE FREEWAY, AND THAT'LL BE PHENOMENAL.
MY WIFE AND I ARE THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE CARLSBAD WALKERS.
WE LIKE TO CARRY POLITICAL SIGNS DURING OUR WALKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT LATER THIS YEAR.
SO NOBODY HAS MENTIONED PUBLIC TOILETS ALONG THE MAIN BOULEVARD.
THEY'RE WONDERFUL. EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY IS TERRIBLE.
IF YOU EXIT THE FREEWAY, EXIT THE FIVE AT LOS FLORES AND GO EAST THE BLOCK OR TWO, YOU'LL GET TO THE BACK SIDE OF BUENA VISTA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE THERE ARE THREE PORTA JOHNS.
BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS PORTA JOHNS.
WHEREVER THERE'S A MEDIAN AND BUILT UP MEDIAN, THERE COULD BE PUBLIC RESTROOMS THERE.
AND NOW THE POWER LINES, 500,000 STUDY FOR THE POWER LINES.
I CAN SAVE YOU THE $500,000 RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, IT WAS ON THE TV THAT SDG&E, WAS SPENDING $3 MILLION A MILE AND $3 MILLION PER MILE IN JULIAN TO BURY THEM. AND NOW THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, FOR SOME STRANGE REASON, TOOK A CHECK FROM SDG&E AND TOOK ON THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PULLING DOWN THOSE POWER LINES. WHICH MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
AND I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR TWO YEARS.
HOW BIG OF A CHECK DID SDG&E GIVE TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO TAKE ON THIS RIDICULOUS RESPONSIBILITY? IF SDG&E SPENT $3 MILLION PER MILE IN JULIAN, HOW MUCH WILL GOVERNMENT SPENT TO DO THE SAME THING? CERTAINLY AT LEAST 5 MILLION.
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SO I THINK THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO PULL THOSE POWER LINES DOWN BECAUSE YOU TOOK MONEY FROM SDG&E BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE.THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN PIMENTEL, FOLLOWED BY GIL ALVARADO.
YES, YOU ALL YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER WORKS FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
AND I SEE A LOT OF YOU IN HERE.
THAT HE KNOWS AND THAT I KNOW.
I'VE GROWN UP IN THIS TOWN 71 YEARS ALL MY LIFE.
I LIVE ON TYLER COURT STREET IN THE TYLER COURT APARTMENTS.
IT IS A VERY, VERY TOUGH STREET TO CROSS, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AT TYLER COURT.
THERE ARE OVER 80 PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
MOST OF THEM USE CANES AND CRUTCHES.
I'VE HAD A VERY SERIOUS ACCIDENT.
I'VE BEEN OUT THERE WATCHING THE TRAFFIC GO BY AND IT SPEEDS BY.
WE WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING SPEED BUMPS IN.
GET THE STOP SIGNS THERE AT ROOSEVELT AND CHESTNUT.
I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME.
AT PINE STREET IN ROSEWOOD ALSO.
IF YOU COULD DO THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ARE ALL TRIBAL HERE, FOLKS.
IT TAKES A TRIBE TO BRING UP A COMMUNITY.
I MEAN YOU. I'VE LIVED IN THIS TOWN FOR A LONG TIME.
MY GRANDFATHER, WHO'S JOSE CASTRO, CAME HERE IN 1887 AND BROUGHT THIS CITY FROM NOTHING TO WHAT IT IS NOW. FOLKS.
IT'S FOR EVERYBODY'S SAFETY AND IT'S FOR OUR FUTURE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GIL ALVARADO, FOLLOWED BY GARY NEWSOM.
AND I OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT MR. PIMENTAL. THE HOUSE THAT I LIVE IN HAS A NICE FULL PORCH AND I SIT OUT THERE PERIODICALLY DRINKING COFFEE OR DRINKING TEA IN THE EVENINGS, AND I INEVITABLY SEE PEOPLE LODGING CARS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING BOTH WAYS.
SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BE CONSIDER BRINGING TYLER STREET UP TO A MAJOR PRIORITY ON THE AGENDA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GARY NEWOM FOLLOWED BY LYNN SCHULTY.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. SOMEBODY HAD A QUESTION OR WOULD SAY ONE WAY OR.
ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO FINISH THE TYLER STREET COMMENTS AND THAT THE REQUEST IS ALSO BEING MADE TO MAKE TYLER STREET A ONE WAY STREET, AS WE SHOULD DO ON CREST DRIVE AND HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE STREET DESIGN AVAILABLE.
SO IT'S EASIER FOR THE RESIDENTS TO REQUEST THAT ALTERNATIVE STREET DESIGN WITH BECAUSE THOSE STREETS ARE NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE TWO WAY TRAFFIC AND THERE'S A CHANCE TO PUT SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES IN IF YOU CHANGE IT OVER TO ONE WAY AND NOT HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH.
AND THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR OTHER STREETS IN TOWN THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THAT ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC DESIGN THAT WE DID DISCUSS IN OLD CARLSBAD AND DID GET REJECTED BECAUSE RESIDENTS MIGHT LOSE SOME OF THEIR FRONT YARDS AND PROPERTIES.
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SIDES OR SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.EVEN SO, IF WE COULD HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE STREET DESIGN, WE COULD HAVE TYLER STREET AND CREST DRIVE SOME OTHER STREETS, BE MORE REASONABLY DESIGNED AND AND FIT THEM IN WITHOUT TAKING UNNECESSARY PROPERTY AND PERHAPS HAVE LESS OBJECTIONS FROM THE RESIDENTS.
IT'S RELATED TO HAVING A CIVIC CENTER AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION AT 1200 CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AND THE POTENTIAL OF A PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE TUNNEL UNDERNEATH THE FREEWAY TO CONNECT THE TWO.
THERE'S TOO MANY OFF RAMPS AND IF WE WOULD START WORKING ON A DESIGN, WE COULD ASK CALTRANS TO CONSIDER MOVING SOME OF THE FREEWAY ON AND OFF RAMPS TO PICO AND MAKING IT A FRIENDLIER WALKING STREET.
BUT AS WE DELAY AND WE DON'T WANT TO TALK TO CALTRANS, THEY'RE MOVING ALONG WITH THEIR THEIR THEIR LANE DESIGNS AND THEY'RE LEAVING CARLSBAD OUT AND. WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE LEFT OUT.
WE WANT TO HAVE THEM ENGAGE WITH US AND THE CITIZENS A LITTLE MORE.
SO OUR STAFF HAS TO WANT TO ENGAGE WITH THEM.
IT'S COSTING US MORE AND MORE TO DELAY MOVING IT IN MANAGEMENT COSTS AND OTHER FEES.
AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN THE BEST BUDGET PRESENTATION IN MY 20 YEARS OF WATCHING PRESENT THE BUDGETS. SO STAFF DID A GREAT JOB.
THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME, LEN SCHULTY, FOLLOWED BY CHRIS ROSS.
ON 4/25 I SENT AND WE SENT TO YOU FOUR DATA FILES AND SOME VERY WONDERFUL NEWS THAT A 14.3 ACRES OF PONTO LAND IS AVAILABLE FOR SALE BY A WILLING SELLER THAT WOULD CREATE A WORLD CLASS COASTAL PARK FOR CARLSBAD.
THIS 14.3 ACRE PONTO PARK WOULD HAVE SPECTACULAR OCEAN LAGOON VIEWS PROVIDES DIMENSIONS ADEQUATE TO HOST PROFITABLE COASTAL VIEW WEDDINGS, COMMUNITY AND SPECIAL EVENTS FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
THIS LAND IS AVAILABLE NOW TO PURCHASE, AND THE BEST PART, WE CAN HAVE THIS 14.3 ACRES OF NEW WORLD CLASS CITY PARK LAND AT A 20 TO 40 MINUTE, $40 MILLION TAXPAYER COST SAVINGS COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED PCH RELOCATION PROJECT.
PCH RELOCATION DOES NOT BUY ONE SINGLE SQUARE INCH OF NEW CITY LAND.
IT ONLY CREATES SMALL, ISOLATED, NARROW LAND FRAGMENTS NEXT TO A MAJOR ROADWAY.
WE CAN SAVE TAXPAYERS 20 TO $40 MILLION AND GET 14.3 MORE ACRES OF PARK WITH A BETTER WORLD CLASS VIEWS ON WATERFRONT LAND EXCUSE ME, ON WATERFRONT LAND AND CREATE A MUCH NEEDED COASTAL PARK FOR SOUTH CARLSBAD. SOUTH CARLSBAD THAT HOUSES 62% OF OUR CITIZENS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
AND ALL THIS AT A 50% DISCOUNT RELATIVE TO THE PCH ALTERNATIVE IN PRIOR BUDGET MEETINGS COUNCIL CARLSBAD CITIZENS HAVE OVERWHELMINGLY ASKED FOR THIS PONTO PARK.
WE ASK YOU TO PUT THIS WORLD CLASS PONTO PARK INTO YOUR CIP AND SAVE TAXPAYERS 20 TO $40 MILLION PEOPLE FOR PONTO CITIZENS ARE HERE TO HELP YOU ADDRESS ANY REVENUE ISSUES.
WE HAVE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY HERE, ONCE IN A LIFETIME, ONCE IN A CAREER OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO TRULY SOMETHING THAT'S GREAT.
AND WORLD CLASS FOR CARLSBAD, PLEASE SEIZE THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
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YOU WILL BE FOREVER REMEMBERED BASED ON WHAT YOUR DECISION IS.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN.
THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS ROSS, FOLLOWED BY DON CHRISTENSEN.
MY NAME IS CHRIS ROSS. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BADAGRY LAGOON FOUNDATION.
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THE FOUNDATION IS A 501 C NONPROFIT.
THE ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 39 YEARS, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU A HAPPY STORY.
BACK IN 1997, THE FOUNDATION PUT TOGETHER A VISIONARY PLAN FOR A TRAIL SYSTEM AROUND THE LAGOON, AND THAT WE'VE BEEN SLOWLY AND SURELY IMPLEMENTING THAT THROUGH LAND ACQUISITION, BY WORKING WITH PUBLIC AGENCIES TO PUT THE TRAIL SYSTEM, WORKING WITH THE CITY, TO PUT IN DEVELOPER OBLIGATED TRAILS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PUT IN. I'M REALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT ITEM SEVEN ON THE ON THE SLIDE RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS THE EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING PROJECT FROM ARENAL ROAD TO LACOSTE AVENUE.
THIS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO STEP UP AND SAY, OH, WE SEE WHAT THE VISION WAS.
HE BROUGHT OUR INPUT BACK IN, WHICH REALLY WAS VERY SIMPLE, WAS GOING TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN.
WHY NOT PUT IN A COUPLE OF VIEWING SPOTS? BECAUSE THAT SIDEWALK THAT'S GOING ALONG EL CAMINO REAL RIGHT THERE IS GOING TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, SPECTACULAR VIEW OF THE LAGOON.
AND SURE ENOUGH, HE INCORPORATED THAT.
AS I SAY, THAT THE VISION FOR FOR OUR TRAIL SYSTEM IS REALLY TO HAVE A TRAIL THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY FROM ACOSTA TO THE COAST, AND THAT IS CLOSER TO REALITY THAN A LOT OF US THINK. WE WORK IN A DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF IT.
THE LAST SEGMENT THAT THE LAST SPEAKER LANCE WAS MENTIONING, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE THIS LAND THAT'S IN THE AT THE VERY END OF THIS OF THIS COASTAL WILL BE A COASTAL TRAIL.
BUT THIS LOOKS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT MAY BE WORTH LOOKING AT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
DON CHRISTENSEN FOLLOWED BY CHRIS WRIGHT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, STAFF AND FELLOW CITIZENS.
I LIVE AT 3715 LONGVIEW DRIVE AND I AM A DECENTRALIZED RENEWABLE ENERGY ADVOCATE, 55 PROJECTS, ALL VYING FOR FUNDS.
I WENT THROUGH THEM NOT IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT THE MERKLE RESERVOIR PROJECT FOR ME STANDS OUT BECAUSE OF A VERY SIGNIFICANT THING. IT IS A NON PERFORMING ASSET PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS OF CARLSBAD, OWNED BY THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
A NON-PERFORMING ASSET IS AN ASSET THAT PRODUCES NO INCOME.
SO WE HAVE 50 PLUS ACRES OF PRIMO SOLAR SITED LAND SITTING THERE NOT GENERATING ANY INCOME.
WELL, THIS GOES BACK A NUMBER OF YEARS.
MERKLE RESERVOIR'S BEEN ON THE TO DO LIST FOR YEARS, SO THAT LEADS INTO OPPORTUNITY COST.
OPPORTUNITY COST IS THE PROFIT LOSS WHEN WHEN ALTERNATIVE IS SELECTED OVER ANOTHER, SUCH AS DOING SOMETHING VERSUS NOT DOING SOMETHING, THE CONCEPT IS USEFUL SIMPLY AS A REMINDER TO EXAMINE ALL REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.
SO I WOULD LIKE I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU EXAMINE WHAT I THINK ARE REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES.
I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF PRIVATE PUBLIC SECTOR PARTNERSHIP.
SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY EVENTUALLY BROUGHT IN THE PUBLIC COMPONENT.
IT COULD SELL IT COULD RENT IT.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS YOU COULD DO WITH IT THAT WOULD GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND PUT LESS EMPHASIS ON THE PERCEIVED NEED TO RAISE TAXES, FOR INSTANCE.
SO YESTERDAY, LOOKING AT OUR LOCAL PAPER SUB HEADLINE, CARLSBAD MALLS REQUIRING ALL ELECTRIC
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CONSTRUCTION. WELL, OKAY, SO THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MORE ELECTRICITY.SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING TO REQUIRE MORE ELECTRICITY THAT ARE CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE IS GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE IS JOINING OF 78 CORRIDOR CITIES TO OUR CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE.
SO WE WE HAVE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL ELECTRICITY.
THE QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO FILL THAT NEED? ARE WE GOING TO DO BUSINESS AS USUAL, THE UTILITY SCALE MODEL, WHICH, BY THE WAY, A GUARANTEED 10% RETURN ON INVESTMENT, WHETHER INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT OR NOT OR WHETHER IT'S USED OR NOT.
SWEET DEAL. IF YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS WRIGHT.
AT THE LAST WORKSHOP, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER OF PUBLIC WORKS EXPLAINED THAT THE MONROE POOL WAS NOT ON THE CONTINUED LIST AND IS AWAITING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.
I MAYBE WOULD LIKE SOME MORE EXPLANATION ON THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS SAFETY REGULATIONS OF ANY SAFETY REGULATIONS OF ANY UPGRADE TO THE POOL CAN CERTAINLY BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS.
I REALIZE THAT DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND THE APPROVAL PROCESS TAKES A FEW YEARS, BUT I'VE ALREADY SEEN THE COSTS INCREASE DUE TO INFLATION SINCE THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN JANUARY 2021.
THE DELAY IS COSTING US MORE MONEY, AND A MINOR AND MINOR SURFACE REPAIR DOES NOT ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS. BUT IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE 15 ACRE CAMP SAYING PROPERTY ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE IQUITOS LAGOON HAS JUST BEEN LISTED FOR SALE.
THIS PROPERTY IS THE GATEWAY INTO OUR CITY AND FALLS INTO THE MULTIPLE HABITAT CONSERVATION PROGRAM OR HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER 2004.
IN 2010, WHEN ENVISION CARLSBAD LISTED OPEN SPACE AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AS ONE OF THE NINE CORE VALUES BY THE RESIDENTS AS A GUIDE FOR THE FUTURE OF CARLSBAD.
THIS WOULD BE A WIN WIN FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF CARLSBAD.
THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.
AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE SPEAKERS.
AND IT MAKES YOUR MIND WONDER SOMETIMES WHAT COULD YOU REALLY DO? YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AROUND ENERGY AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER THOUGHTS.
SUMMER. IT'S BACK TO YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE HAD HERE TODAY.
WE WANT, COUNCIL HAS A LOT TO BE THINKING ABOUT AND DETERMINING WHAT YOUR NEXT STEPS ARE.
I WANT TO CLARIFY WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.
SO OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, REALLY OUR GOAL WAS TO IDENTIFY THE ONES THAT ARE RELEVANT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO ADVANCE OR TO GET TO CLOSER TO A COMPLETION OF THOSE PROJECTS.
AND THOSE 55 THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ARE REALLY THE ONES THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THE TABLE TODAY.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TAKE ACTION ON TODAY TO SAY WE'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE TO EITHER ACCELERATE THE TIMELINE, TO POTENTIALLY DECELERATE THE TIMELINE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE REMOVED FROM THE LIST OF 55 OR POTENTIALLY SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ADDED TO THE LIST OF 55, THAT REPORT THAT YOU RECEIVED IN ADVANCE IN THE AGENDA PACKET IS REALLY IDENTIFYING ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.
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THESE 55 ARE SCHEDULED.IF YOU'D LIKE TO AGAIN ACCELERATE, DECELERATE A TIMELINE OR REMOVE OR ADD SOMETHING TO THAT LIST, THAT WOULD THEN BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD TAKE BACK TO DETERMINE THE BEST STRATEGIES IN WHICH TO DO THAT AND WOULD BRING THAT BACK TO THE MAY MEETING.
SO AT THIS POINT, WHERE WE'RE AT IS TO IDENTIFY, FIRST HAVE COUNCIL IDENTIFY WHICH OF THOSE 55 PROJECTS OR BEYOND THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS TODAY AND POTENTIALLY TAKE ACTION ON ADJUSTING IN THOSE AREAS.
AGAIN, ADD, REMOVE OR ACCELERATE OR DECELERATE THE TIMELINE.
AND BECAUSE THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST, WE'D LIKE YOU TO IDENTIFY WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMEMBER NORBY AND GO AROUND TO IDENTIFY WHICH PROJECTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO TO DISCUSS WITH THE COUNCIL AND AND TAKE ACTION POTENTIALLY ON.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT FULL LIST AND YOU'VE IDENTIFIED YOUR CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, THEN WE'LL TAKE A SHORT RECESS TO ORDER THOSE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE MOST EFFICIENT DISCUSSION, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CONFLICTS, IF ANY, DO EXIST ON THOSE PROJECTS.
CELIA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST? THANK YOU. NOW, I'D JUST LIKE TO.
IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT PURSUANT TO CALIFORNIA LAW, ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE DISQUALIFIED FROM VOTING ON PROJECTS IN WHICH THEY HAVE A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST, MEANING, AND IDENTIFIED FINANCIAL INTEREST.
AND IN THIS CASE, THE ONE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS PROXIMITY OF PROPERTY TO ONE OF THE PROJECTS.
AND SO THEREFORE THE WAY WE HANDLE THAT IS THE COUNCIL MEMBER IDENTIFIES THE PROJECT, THEN HAS TO LEAVE THE ROOM FOR THE VOTE ON THAT PROJECT AND THEN WE RESUME WHEN THEY'RE INVITED BACK DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINING ITEMS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.
WHICH OF THE PROJECTS, IF ANY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO? I THINK I'LL START OFF BY DISCLOSING THAT I HAVE NO INTEREST OR NO PROXIMITY ISSUES WITH ANY OF THE PROJECTS.
I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH THEM IN ROW POOL, AND ALTHOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PRIORITIZATION ISSUE HERE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THERE, AND I BELIEVE COUNCIL IS WELL INTENTIONED TO PUT THIS ON A FUTURE BALLOT, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF PAYING FOR IT A NUMBER OF YEARS AND IT COULD BE SEVERAL YEARS OFF.
AND THE REASON I'D LIKE TO MOVE IT UP IS COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.
AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST COLLECTING THE PROJECTS, SO ARGUE FOR IT LATER.
THANK YOU. THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND TRAFFIC CALMING.
THERE ARE ABOUT FOUR VILLAGE AND BARRIO LIGHTING PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE DESCRIBED AS PEDESTRIAN OR LIGHTING OR DECORATIVE.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? OKAY. THANK YOU.
THIS IS HARD BECAUSE I WANT TO PICK SO MANY OF THEM, BUT I'LL START WITH AGREEING WITH SOME OF THE THE ITEMS THAT WERE JUST LISTED. DEFINITELY MONROE POOL, UM, AND TYLER STREET AND THE LAGOON TRAIL AND SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY.
IT'S HARD NOT TO ARGUE FOR THEM.
TO ADD TO THAT THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AT STAGECOACH.
MERKLE SOLAR NEW FIRE STATION SEVEN NEW CITY HALL.
COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? YES, THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ECHO A LOT OF THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED SO FAR.
SO. MONROE STREET POOL, THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
MAYBE I SHOULD SAY WHICH ONES I CAN LEAVE OFF OF THERE.
YOU CAN PUT MY INITIALS NEXT TO ALL OF THOSE.
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AND THEN IN TERMS OF ANY OTHER ADDITIONS, I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK HERE TO SEE IF I I'D ADD A COLLEGE BOULEVARD EXTENSION.AND THEN I DO WANT TO REEMPHASIZE JUST PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS WITH REGARDS TO PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. GREAT.
BLACKBURN. I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO JUGGLE THESE AND MAKE THEM IN A DIFFERENT ORDER THAN STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.
IS THAT COUNCIL IS IDENTIFYING WHICH PROJECTS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE REORDERED, ADDED OR REMOVED? I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
THANK YOU. MAYOR HALL? OKAY. UM, THE ONE LIST THAT YOU PUT UP THERE WITH ALL THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, I'M ASSUMING ARE ALL IN THE LIST AND ARE MOVING FORWARD.
THE ONLY ONE I TAKE EXCEPTION TO IS COLLEGE AVE OR THE COLLEGE EXTENSION, WHICH HAS BEEN IN THERE.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S GROWTH INDUCING AND IT NEEDS A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.
AND SO THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO GET REZONED AND UP ZONED.
AND THAT, ALONG WITH WHAT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT, IS ALSO BEEN ON THE GOLD LIST FOR 20 PLUS YEARS.
WE EITHER NEED TO SUPPORT IT AND GO FOR IT OR WE JUST NEED TO QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, STAFF KEEPS SPENDING TIME AND TIME AND TIME.
IT'S BEEN IN THE GOALS WE NEED.
WE NEED TO COME TO SOME DECISION ON THAT, OUTSIDE THAT.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE MAIN MONROE STREET POOL AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED.
OKAY. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW, BUT AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHO OWNS MERKLE RESERVOIR.
MY GUESS THE CITY DOES, AND I THINK THE WATER DEPARTMENT DOES, BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES AND NOT TO BE IN COMPETITION, BUT HOW THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH ENERGY TODAY.
SO IT PRESENTS, I THINK, AN OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? THANK YOU. I HAVE TO DISCLOSE.
I WAS JUST GOING TO COME BACK AROUND. YEAH, YEAH.
AND AS FOR PROPERTY FOR SALE IN THAT AREA, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A PARK.
I THINK MORE RESEARCH WOULD NEED TO BE DONE, BUT NOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THIS PROCESS IS PRIORITIZING WHAT ALREADY IS IN OUR PACKET, IN OUR AGENDA PACKET.
THAT IS RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT, YEAH.
THANK YOU. I GOT NODS FROM CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER AND OUR FACILITATOR.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT'S NOT ON OR OFF THE TABLE.
IT'S JUST NOT BEING DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST TO IDENTIFY? OH, YES. NUMBER ONE, THE VERY FIRST ONE, LACOSTE AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS.
SORRY. OH, NO, NOTHING ON THE NEW LIST.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? YES. JUST TO CLARIFY, FROM WHAT I HAD UNDERSTOOD, THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS TO PUT THINGS ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION, TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD WANT TO DECELERATE OR ACCELERATE ANY OF THEM.
SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE A FEW OF THE ONES THAT I'VE PUT ON THERE, IT'S MORE FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT, NOT NECESSARILY TO SAY LET'S GO FULL SPEED AHEAD. SO I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THAT FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.
YES. AND THE INTENTION THAT IF AFTER DISCUSSION, IF THERE IS ACTION TO BE TAKEN, THAT THAT BE IDENTIFIED AND OBVIOUSLY MOTIONS MADE AND WHATNOT TO DETERMINE WHAT ACTION YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
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NO THANKS.I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ON THAT LIST.
TYLER STREET VILLAGE DECORATIVE LIGHTING.
I'M ASSUMING I'M PART OF THAT VILLAGE, BARRIO CIRCLES, CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AND GRAND AVENUE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, VILLAGE INTELLIGENT PARKING, BARRIO STREET LIGHTING, CHESTNUT COMPLETE STREET, I-5 TO RAILROAD. SO IN THE LOWERING OF THE TRACKS.
OKAY SO THESE, MAYOR HALL, DO I HAVE THESE ACCURATE? TYLER STREET STUDY VILLAGE AND BARRIO LIGHTING DECORATIVE RAILROAD TRENCH COLLEGE BOULEVARD EXTENSION OF THIS LIST? NO, NO, NOT CARLSBAD.
I WAS JUST I LOOK AT THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE COVERED BY A DEVELOPER.
I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT OF DOING THAT.
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OKAY. SO IN JUST A MINUTE, WE'RE GOING TO ASK MAYOR HALL TO EXIT AND WE'LL START WITH THE FOR THAT HE HAS A CONFLICT ON AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE OTHERS.I DO WANT TO JUST ALERT THE COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE 30 MINUTES IN THIS MEETING TO IDENTIFY ACTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE. AND ON THESE, JUST TO REITERATE AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, ALL 13 THAT ARE REIDENTIFIED HERE.
ALL OF THESE ARE SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW WITH CURRENT STAFF.
WE HAVE TO BE MOVING FORWARD IN SOME WAY IN THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO THESE ALL ARE MOVING FORWARD BASED ON PRIOR COUNCIL DIRECTION.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS IS CLARITY OF DIRECTION.
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ACCELERATED. IF THERE IS SOMETHING ON THIS LIST OR REMOVED, IF THERE IS SOMETHING ON THIS LIST THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ACCELERATED.WHAT THE STAFF WILL BE DOING AFTER THIS MEETING, BEFORE THE BUDGET MEETING IS DETERMINING THEN WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DECELERATED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, OR WHAT RESOURCES WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED AKA STAFF IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THOSE.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THOSE AND THAT AS WE GO THROUGH, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A SPECIFIC MOTION ON THAT WE MOVE TOWARDS THAT AND SEE WHERE WHERE THE COUNCIL IS AT.
YES. COUNCILMEMBER NORBY? YEAH. JUST FOR I THINK OUR MAYOR IS THE ONE WHO HAS PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE THAT ARE ON THE LIST.
AND I WONDER IF IT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA TO DO JUST THAT, JUST TO DEAL WITH THE MAYOR'S CONFLICT ISSUES AS HE LEAVES THE ROOMS AND THEN MAKE A MOTION ON THOSE ISSUES AND THEN COME BACK.
AND I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO OTHERS OR NONE.
AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER CONFLICT.
NO OTHER CONFLICTS, JUST THAT ONE.
YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO START THERE AS MAYOR HALL.
AS MAYOR HALL HAS LEFT THE ROOM, WE WILL START.
BUT WE'LL START WITH THE TYLER STREET STUDY.
YES. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO OUR STAFF YESTERDAY AND TODAY ON THE FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED OR WERE NOTIFIED THAT WE WERE GOING TO RECEIVE $5 MILLION.
AND THEY WERE FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND FOR PEDESTRIAN LIGHTINGS IN THE BARRIO.
AND THAT I WAS TOLD THAT THOSE MONIES ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET ITEMS THAT WE GOT.
SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION ON TOP OF WHAT'S ON THE PAPERS TO GET THOSE DONE.
SO I'D LIKE TO BASICALLY JUST THEY'RE SUPER IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I LOVE THE FACT AS I DRIVE DOWN THE COAST AND I SEE NEW PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS AND NEW SAFETY ISSUES GOING ON IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, I'D LIKE TO GROUP ALL OF THOSE AT TYLER STREET AND THE LIGHTING, BOTH VILLAGE AND BARRIO, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND JUST MAKE A MOTION, I GUESS, THAT WE WE MOVE THOSE UP AND GET THEM COMPLETED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, JUST KIND OF MOVE THEM UP THE PRIORITY LIST.
AND I THINK THAT ONLY LEAVES THE TRENCH PROJECT THAT THE MAYOR HAD A CONFLICT WITH.
THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK WITH THAT, FOR ME, I REALIZE IT'S GOING TO BE A HALF A BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 300 AND 600 MILLION, AND THAT CARLSBAD WOULD BE A CONTRIBUTOR AT A VERY LIGHT LEVEL TO THAT.
BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WHAT I'D LIKE TO PUSH FORWARD IS JUST TO GIVE OUR STAFF DIRECTION IF THERE'S A CHANCE TO MOVE A TECHNICAL STUDY FORWARD, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS SANDAG WILL SAY, WELL, IT'S A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR STUDY, BUT WE HAVE TO GO OUT NEXT GRANT CYCLE AND LOOK FOR A MILLION OR TWO FOR IT.
BUT IF WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD WITH SOME OF OUR OWN FUNDS TO ASSIST IN THESE TECHNICAL STUDIES SO WE CAN GET THEM DONE SOONER, WHICH MEANS THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND LOOK FOR MONEY FOR THE PROJECT SOONER.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUPPORT.
SO I WOULD WANT TO MOVE THAT PORTION UP IN TERMS OF MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO DO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN IN TERMS OF STUDIES OR TECHNICAL STUDIES THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE MAKING TWO MOTIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? THE FIRST MOTION IS TO TAKE THESE THREE PROJECTS AND ASK STAFF, IDENTIFY HOW.
THIS IS TO ACCELERATE TYLER STREET, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND ALL OF THE LIGHTING PROJECTS.
SO YOU'RE REALLY NOT CHANGING IT.
SOME OF THESE YOU'RE NOT ACCELERATING THEM.
I'LL SECOND ON THAT CONDITION.
IT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED, CONSISTENT.
WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A QUESTION OR THESE MOTIONS, DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT OR YOU WANT ME TO HANDLE IT? JUST SO WE'RE NOT STEPPING ON EACH OTHER'S TOES? IT'S ALL YOURS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SECOND IS COMMENTING?
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YES. YES. ABOUT THIS ITEM.THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY ON SOMEWHAT OF THE FAST TRACK, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE THING IS, FOR ME, I WAS PULLING OUT THINGS ALL OVER THE CITY.
THE REASON THAT THEY'RE PULLED OUT IS THAT THE MAYOR HAS A CONTRACT.
NO, I MEAN, IN YOUR MOTION THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE PULLING THESE THREE OUT TO BE OF ALL OF THESE TO BE LOOKED AT AND PRIORITIZED.
AND AND YET, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THESE ARE ALREADY KIND OF ON THE ACCELERATION PATH.
I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA.
SO I THINK WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT 41 PROJECTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT THE MAYOR HAS A CONFLICT WITH IN TERMS OF HIS LAND OWNERSHIP.
FOR THOSE AS WELL AS THEY COME UP, WE DO THAT.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE NOT JUST PRIORITIZING THOSE D-1 PROJECTS.
RIGHT. AND MANY OF THEM ARE CLOSE IN TERMS OF FUNDING AND MANY OF THEM ARE CLOSE IN TERMS OF TIMING.
BUT THE CHANGE ELEMENT IS WE'VE RECEIVED ANOTHER $5 MILLION WITH THE FUNDING.
THAT'S NOT REFLECTED. SO I JUST WANT TO PUSH THEM AND GET THEM CONSTRUCTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? COMMENT? SURE. THANK YOU.
AND ACTUALLY HOPE MAYBE IT'LL ADDRESS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS HOPING TO HAVE DISCUSSED MORE HOLISTICALLY, BUT FOR ME, I KNOW I MENTIONED EARLIER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS IMPORTANT WAS WITH REGARDS TO THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH INCORPORATES PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, MULTIMODAL LEVELS OF TRANSIT.
AND SO A LOT OF THESE FALL WITHIN THAT, WHETHER IT'S THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND TRAFFIC CALMING OR THE TYLER STREET STUDY AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMPLETE STREET PROJECTS. ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT AND I'D LOVE TO MAYBE ADD STAFF ON THAT, IS THAT IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT ARE THE COMPLETE STREETS OR PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, IF WE SAID THAT THOSE WERE FROM COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE, THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO PRIORITIZE, WOULD THAT BE TOO MANY PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE PRIORITIZED OVER THE OTHERS? OR IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD PRIORITIZE THOSE SO THAT MANY OF THE COMPLETE STREETS COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT INITIAL PLANNING STAGE? BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER DISTRICTS? AND I CAN DEFINITELY SPEAK FROM DISTRICT THREE'S PERSPECTIVE THAT THERE ARE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO INCLUDE COMPLETE STREETS PROJECTS.
AND SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
YES, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
WE ARE, AS A MATTER OF COURSE, WHENEVER WE ARE LOOKING AT ANY STREET MAINTENANCE OR IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, WE DO INTEGRATE COMPLETE STREETS INTO THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS.
GREAT. SO I THINK THE REASON WHY I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE AROUND.
SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO POTENTIALLY PRIORITIZE THESE THREE RIGHT HERE.
THE QUESTION FROM MY COLLEAGUE WAS BROUGHT UP, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER DISTRICTS, WHICH IS ALSO A QUESTION THAT I ALSO HAVE IN TERMS OF MANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD PRIORITIZE? AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO PRIORITIZE MORE HOLISTICALLY, MORE COMPREHENSIVELY, SO THAT IT IS MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE LIFT, NOT JUST PIECEMEAL IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOLISTICALLY.
WOULD THAT BE THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION OR WOULD WE THEN WANT TO PICK OUT EVERY SINGLE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT? THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE.
IF I COULD, I THINK MAYBE CLARIFY THIS IS COUNCILMEMBER NORBY IS NOT LIMITED TO MAKING JUST THIS ONE MOTION ON THESE ITEMS. HE'S CHOSEN TO GO FIRST WITH THESE ITEMS BECAUSE THE MAYOR IS OUT OF THE ROOM, BUT HE MAY VERY WELL MAKE MOTIONS ON TEN MORE OF THE REMAINING ITEMS, AND SO CAN ALL OF YOU.
SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THIS IS EXHAUSTIVELY RELATED TO THIS.
ALSO, YOU MAY MAKE A LOT OF MOTIONS TO ACCELERATE SEVERAL OF THE PROJECTS.
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WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME SORT OF PROPOSED WAY TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU MAKE 50 PROJECTS, A PRIORITY WILL BE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.WE HAVE 55 PROJECTS THAT ARE PRIORITY.
ACTUALLY, WE HAVE WAY MORE THAN THAT. BUT SO SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ARE THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT TO CALL OUT FOR ACCELERATION, DECELERATION, ADDITION OR SUBTRACTION. WE'RE JUST STARTING WITH THESE BECAUSE OF THE MAYOR'S CONFLICT.
NO, I HELP I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
I THINK WHAT I AND I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PRIORITIZING 50 DIFFERENT PROJECTS; RIGHT? OR 20 DIFFERENT PROJECTS, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD BE CONFUSING IN TERMS OF DIRECTION.
SO I WAS TRYING TO DO IS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IS THERE A WAY THAT IF WE SAID, HEY, LET'S JUST SAY I'M GOING TO USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS IS NOT OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT'S POTENTIALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THESE PARTICULAR ROAD SEGMENTS IN THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.
BUT LET'S JUST SAY IF I SAID AVENIDA ENCINAS AND PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES, THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, TYLER STREET, THOSE WERE ALL PART OF THAT SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.
IF I SAID THAT I WANTED TO PRIORITIZE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, WOULD THAT TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING THAT COMES UNDER THAT? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
SO I THINK FOR THE PURPOSES OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS BEING EITHER PART OF THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN THAT WE HAVE CALLED OUT, THE SUSTAINABILITY EXCUSE ME, SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION THAT WE'RE INITIATING WILL INCLUDE THE ONES THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN MENTIONED AND THEN OTHERS AS WELL.
SO JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY'RE BEING ADDRESSED SEPARATELY, UNLESS WE CALL THEM OUT AS A SPECIFIC CIP PROJECT.
BUT IF YOU WISH TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THEM AND BRING THEM FORWARD AS SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN PRIORITIES, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
I MEAN, I'M DEFINITELY, I'LL SAY THAT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION.
I JUST WANTED TO ALSO REITERATE THE FACT THAT MANY OF THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS OR ANY OF THE OTHER SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN REGARDING IMPROVEMENTS THAT I'D WANT TO SEE WOULD BE MORE COMPREHENSIVE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT, AND I DO AGREE WITH MOVING THESE PARTICULAR ONES ALONG BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HEARD THIS SINCE I CAME ON BOARD IN 2019, 2018, 2019. SO I THINK DEFINITELY I'D BE HAPPY TO MOVE THESE ALONG AS LONG AS WE'RE AGAIN LOOKING AT IT COMPREHENSIVELY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
MAY I JUST ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VILLAGE DECORATIVE LIGHTING, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE 2019 LIGHTING STUDY AND ALL, I BELIEVE SEVEN PHASES OF IT TO BE COMPLETED? OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT PERHAPS PRIORITIZING WHAT WAS LISTED ON OUR LIST? AND SO THERE WAS A [INAUDIBLE] STATE STREET LIGHTING, THERE WAS BARRIO LIGHTING AND THEN THERE WAS VILLAGE DECORATIVE.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S AN EXTENSIVE LIST.
SO JUST THAT WE WE DON'T ACCOMPLISH IT IN TOTALITY, BUT THAT WE PRIORITIZE IT.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
. THE LAST ONE WOULD BE THE RAIL IF I COULD JUST TAKE A SHOT AT THAT REAL QUICK.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE.
AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ADJUST THAT IN TERMS OF A COUNCIL CIP OR A GOAL IS TO ADJUST THAT TO PARTICIPATE WITH STATE AND REGIONAL AGENCIES FOR A TRENCH PROJECT AND TO PRIORITIZE TECHNICAL STUDIES NEEDED IN PREPARATION OF THAT PROJECT.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? I'D LIKE TO GET STAFF INPUT ON THAT, PLEASE.
IN PARTICULAR, WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WITH REGARDS TO THE TECHNICAL STUDIES WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT IS THAT WE HAD FUNDED AS A CITY THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS OF THE SHORT TRENCH VERSUS THE LONG TRENCH, AND THAT HAS BEEN MOVED FORWARD.
SANDAG IS IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING.
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PROPOSE AN APPROXIMATE COST FOR THAT LEVEL OF EFFORT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.YES, A 60% AND THEN A COMPREHENSIVE 90, 95% AND THEN WORKING DRAWINGS.
AND SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT THAT SHOULD BE OUR GOAL AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING A $600 MILLION PROJECT, IS TO WORK WITH THESE AGENCIES AND AND TO CONTRIBUTE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE COST OF THESE STUDIES TO MOVE THEM FORWARD SO WE CAN GET THEM DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
IS THERE A PARTICULAR AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO? THERE IS NOT. AND SO AS THEY COME FORWARD AND THERE'S A FUNDING DEFICIENCY THAT THE STAFFS WOULD WORK TOGETHER.
BUT NO, IT'S A PRIORITY THAT CARLSBAD PARTICIPATES IN MOVING THIS FORWARD.
WE CAN DO THAT. WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO WORD THAT THAT IS MANAGEABLE FOR FOR STAFF? SO I HAVE SOMETHING TO SECOND THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.
I THINK COUNCILMEMBER NORBY DID A GOOD JOB OF CAPTURING THAT, SIR.
THEN I'LL SECOND LOOKING FOR THE NEXT STEP.
CAN I JUST CONFIRM THE MOTION? IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE IF I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE MOTION.
SO WE IDENTIFY A DIFFERENT DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THAT'S FOR THE STUDY PORTION? RIGHT. WE WILL IDENTIFY IT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING.
CELIA, IS THAT CLEAR? OKAY, SO ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES.
COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA? NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION AS A COMMENT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR THAT HAS BEEN SECONDED.
I THINK ALSO MAYBE AS PART OF THAT, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING TO THE REGIONAL PARTNERS, TO TALKING TO SANDAG AND THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, TALKING TO OUR LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT SEEKING THAT FUNDING AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CURRENTLY EXPLICITLY IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS IF WE'RE GOING TO GET MATCHING FUNDING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO PUSH FOR THAT AMENDMENT.
OKAY, GREAT. A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
WHAT'S THE SECOND? SECOND ON THAT IS SECOND STANCE.
ARE YOU READY FOR A VOTE? YES.. THANK YOU. COULD SOMEONE PLEASE GRAB MAYOR HALL? OKAY. AS HE COMES BACK INTO THE ROOM, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO MONROE STREET POOL REPLACEMENT.
SO IF ONE OF YOU WANTS TO GET YOUR MOTION READY TILL HE'S HERE.
DO YOU HAVE IT? YOU'RE ALL READY TO GO.
COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKBURN? I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT [INAUDIBLE] NEEDS TO GET DONE.
I ASKED OUR STAFF, HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET THIS DONE? BECAUSE 2026 SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN AWFUL LONG WAYS OUT THERE.
BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK IS THAT WE DEDICATE SOME FUNDS TO GETTING THE POOL AT LEAST A FOUR YEAR, ENOUGH OF A RENOVATION TO GET US THROUGH FOUR YEARS.
BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT LACKING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO SPEND THE FUNDS TO AT LEAST GET IT TO A VERY USABLE CONDITION.
SO IF I COULD REINTERPRET YOUR MOTION AS BEING ONE TO ADD AN ITEM AND BRING BACK AN ITEM NEXT TIME WE COME TO YOU FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE MAINTENANCE ALONE OF THE MONROE STREET POOL, WOULD THAT ACCURATELY REFLECT IT? YES. IN EXCHANGE FOR TRYING TO SPEED IT UP, BECAUSE WE CAN'T SPEED UP THE TIMELINE.
FOR THE OPTION THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED US.
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OKAY. SO THANK YOU, CELIA.MY MOTION WILL BE THAT STAFF BRING BACK TO US IN A TIMELY MANNER SOME TYPE OF A TEMPORARY BAND-AID OR MAINTENANCE REPAIRS THAT'LL GET US THROUGH 2026 AND KEEPING THE POOL WORKABLE.
OKAY. CAN WE TAKE A SECOND ON THAT AND THEN COMMENT THE SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? SURE. JUST FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION FIRST.
SPECIFICALLY, IF THOSE PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE, WHERE IS THAT FUNDING COMING FROM? AND THEN ALSO, CAN THOSE PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENTS BE UTILIZED FOR IF IT IS TO BE VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD, CAN THOSE BE UTILIZED FOR THAT PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENT MOVING FORWARD? SO I THINK YOUR YOUR QUESTION IS WITH REGARDS TO IF WE WERE TO INVEST IN ADDITIONAL REPAIRS AND RENOVATIONS, COULD WE USE THAT FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE FOLLOW ON? NO. THE ACTUAL SCOPE OF WORK OF THE NEW RENOVATION EXPANDS IT FURTHER.
SO DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, WE ALREADY HAVE SPENT SOME SOME FUNDING ON THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND BRING FORTH, BASED ON THE MOTION THAT MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN HAD BROUGHT ON BOARD.
SO DO WE ALREADY HAVE FUNDING EARMARKED FOR THOSE PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENTS THEN THAT HE'S MAKING A MOTION FOR? COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I COULD JUST PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION.
WE DID HAVE A RISK MANAGEMENT OR ATTENDED THE POOL, IDENTIFY IF THERE WERE ANY SAFETY ISSUES.
NO SAFETY ISSUES EXISTS AND STAFF CONTINUED TO MAKE THOSE COSMETIC MODIFICATIONS.
WE ARE DOING IT AND OPERATING IT WITHIN BUDGET.
AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE.
SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR THAT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO, MR. BLACKBURN, DO YOU STILL WANT YOUR MOTION ON THE TABLE? I WANT TO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS KEEPING THINGS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST AND A PRIORITY WITH STAFF.
HONESTLY, I WAS A LITTLE EMBARRASSED BY SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD, WHETHER THEY WERE EXAGGERATED PICTURES OR JUST THE FEW PICTURES THAT ARE BAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GREAT.
MY REQUEST IS THAT WE KEEP THE MONROE POOL AS A PRIORITY, KEEPING IT UP AND KEEPING IT PRESENTABLE UNTIL THE TIME WE TEAR IT APART TO BUILD THE NEW ONE. SO WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO MAKING SURE THAT IT IS A PRIORITY? WE CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE IT AND THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR STAFF IS ALREADY MAKING SURE THAT IT IS BEING KEPT AND THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE OR AT LEAST A MAJORITY OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD ARE BEING ADDRESSED.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE YOUR MOTION FOR PRIORITIZING IT? YEAH, I'M NOT GOOD.
PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 2026 DATE, THAT CAN'T BE CHANGED.
BUT I AM GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE DO PRIORITIZE KEEPING IT UP, GETTING AND IF WE NEED TO TRANSFER FUNDS, THEN CITY STAFF BRING TO US HOW MUCH WE NEED AND WHERE IT NEEDS TO COME FROM.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY YEARS, FOUR YEARS THAT THE POOL IS MAINTAINED AND THAT THAT COMES AS A CITY COUNCIL PRIORITY, THAT THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED. SURE.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION THEN TO BE NOT A SEPARATE MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT COMES BACK TO YOU FOR IN THE CIP, BUT AN EXISTING PRIORITIZATION WITHIN OUR EXISTING BUDGET. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YEAH.
DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? SO WE'RE NOW DOWN TO JUST THIS AS A PRIORITIZATION, THERE IS NO FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT? IT SOUNDS AS PART OF.
ADDITIONAL FUNDING? CORRECT. OKAY. YOU HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
. THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE LIST.
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. HAVE WE MADE A MOTION TO GO OUT FOR THE FUNDING ON MONROE POOL? WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.
DO WE NOT? TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS, WON'T THIS BE A PROP H VOTE? THIS WILL BE A PROP H VOTE, SIR.
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STAFF TO PLACE IT ON A FUTURE BALLOT.BUT THAT WILL BE COMING BACK IN JUNE.
SO JUST SPEAKING IN GENERAL, IN DOING PASS BALLOT MEASURES, I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST WE PUT MORE THAN ONE ITEM ON, AS YOU KNOW, WITH A BALLOT MEASURE, IT'S OFTEN WHEN YOU JUST PUT ONE, EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT THINK THERE'S STRONG SUPPORT, THERE MIGHT BE OTHERS WHO DO NOT THINK SO. BUT IF YOU HAVE SEVERAL GREAT THINGS ON FOR [INAUDIBLE] VOTE, I THINK WE STAND A BETTER CHANCE.
SO IT MAY NOT JUST BE MONROE STREET POOL.
THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION FOR YOU ALL.
IN THE LAST 5 MINUTES, WE HAVE EIGHT MORE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE ASKED TO TAKE ACTION ON.
I THOUGHT WE HAD A HARD STARTED AT 2:00? WE DO HAVE EVERYONE PRESENT FOR THE NEXT MEETING THAT'LL START AT 2:00.
IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO GO AHEAD AND EXTEND THAT FOR AN ADDITIONAL 15 MINUTES.
AGAIN, IF WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE AND DEPRIORITIZE.
IF NOT, WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY A CLOSED SESSION THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR MAY 3RD.
AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS ACTUALLY ADD A AN ADDITIONAL MEETING.
AND THIS WOULD BE PART THREE OF OUR PRIORITIZATION EXERCISE, AND THAT COULD OCCUR ON THE THIRD.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE GO TO THIRD.
I DO NOT WANT TO RUSH AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEAR EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS AND VOICE.
SO I WOULD MOVE THAT WE MOVE THIS TO THE THIRD.
OH, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? THANK YOU. I'M WAITING FOR THE REVERB TO START.
SO THAT WOULD BE DONE IN A CLOSED SESSION NO, WE CURRENTLY HAVE CLOSED SESSION ON CALENDAR FOR THE THIRD.
THIS WOULD BE AN OPEN SESSION DISCUSSION.
IT'S JUST I'M, COUNCIL WILL ALREADY BE THERE.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS PROBABLY NOTICE AND IT WOULD BE AN OPEN SESSION DISCUSSION ITEM.
YOU READY FOR VOTE? . PASSES UNANIMOUS.
THEN WE'VE HEARD WHERE THIS IS TO BE CONTINUED TO.
SO WITH THAT, THEN I WOULD ADJOURN THE MEETING.
UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS.
I THINK IT REALLY ADVANCES THE CONVERSATION AND UNTIL MAY 3RD.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.