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YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'D LIKE TO CALL TODAY'S MEETING TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE BACK TO THIS MEETING.

AND WITH THAT, IF THE CLERK COULD PLEASE TAKE ROLL.

. I'VE ALREADY LEARNED SOMETHING RIGHT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, AND THAT IS, IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, PLEASE TURN YOUR MIC OFF TO TRY AND KEEP THE REVERBERATION DOWN.

SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY TIGHT SCHEDULE NOT ONLY FOR THE NEXT 2 HOURS, BUT ACTUALLY UNTIL 5:00 THIS EVENING.

SO I'M GOING TO KEEP MY REMARKS SHORT AND JUST TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO SCOTT.

ALL RIGHT. AND MARY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH DOING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I'M SORRY. PLEASE RISE DEEPLY.

[1. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PRIORITIES]

SO I'M ACTUALLY WORKING OFF A TWO SHEETS HERE, SO FORGIVE ME.

SO, MR. CHADWICK, YOU'RE UP NEXT.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND GOOD AFTERNOON.

TODAY, WE'RE CONTINUING OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PRIORITIES.

WE ONCE AGAIN HAVE DR.

CURLEY HERE TO FACILITATE THE DISCUSSION.

AND OUR GOAL TODAY IS REALLY TO GET YOUR DIRECTION ON ANY CHANGES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ON THE CURRENT LIST OF PROJECTS AND OR TIMELINES.

NOW, ALL THE PROJECTS ON YOUR LIST ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SUPPORT ONE OR MORE OF THE THEMES IN YOUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN AND ARE MOVING FORWARD ACCORDING TO THE TIMELINES PROVIDED.

IN SOME CASES, PROJECTS ARE FULLY RESOURCED AND CANNOT BE COMPLETED SOONER THAN THE DATE LISTED.

OTHER PROJECTS COULD BE COMPLETED SOONER, BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFFING AND OR TO PUT OTHER WORK ON HOLD.

STAFF DO HAVE INFORMATION FOR YOU TODAY ABOUT FUNDING AS WELL, AND THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP LAST WEEK.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE SINGLE GREATEST FACTOR IN MOVING PROJECTS FORWARD IS THE AVAILABILITY OF A PROJECT MANAGER.

SO EVEN WHEN WE HIRE CONTRACTORS TO WORK ON PROJECTS, CITY STAFF STILL MUST OVERSEE THIS WORK.

NOW WE HAVE A FIXED NUMBER OF PROJECT MANAGERS AND AT THIS TIME THEY ARE ALL FULLY ENGAGED IN EXECUTING THE WORK.

AS YOU SEE IT PRESENTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, PLEASE KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE TO EXECUTE ON YOUR VISION AND PRIORITIES.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGES AGAIN ON THIS LIST OF PROJECTS, WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH A PRELIMINARY BUDGET PRESENTATION WITH OPTIONS ON HOW THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO SUMMER.

JUST GRAB MY MIKE CAN HEAR ME.

AWESOME. GREAT.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HAPPY TO BE BACK WITH YOU AGAIN TODAY ON THE SUPER PRETTY DAY.

IT'D BE NICE IF WE WERE OUTSIDE AND NOT INSIDE, BUT HERE WE ARE.

AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE PUBLIC THAT CAME BACK OUT.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD TO CONTINUE THE MEETING FROM LAST WEDNESDAY UNTIL TODAY.

AND SO I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE FAMILIAR FACES FOR COMING BACK OUT HERE TODAY.

SO WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION LAST WEDNESDAY TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE CIP PROJECTS ARE AT AND WHERE THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANY CHANGES MADE, EITHER ACCELERATING OR DECELERATING TIMELINES.

AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THROUGH THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT THE BIGGER CONTEXT OF WHERE THIS FITS IN IS INTO THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE ONE YEAR ANNUAL BUDGETING THAT WE'RE DOING FOR FISCAL YEAR 22-23.

SO THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE OF WHERE THIS PIECE OF THE PUZZLE REALLY FITS IN TODAY.

AND OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS IDENTIFIED AND ANSWERED AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH HAVING STAFF HERE TO ADDRESS THOSE AND THEN TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE DIFFERENT ACTION IN WHAT THESE FIVE YEAR PROJECTS LOOK LIKE.

AS CITY MANAGER CHADWICK SHARED, WHERE THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON RESOURCES OR WHERE STAFF TIME IS SPENT AS APPROPRIATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET DONE WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE IN THIS FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN TIMELINE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR CLARITY AND ALIGNMENT TODAY.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M AIMING TOWARDS IN A TIGHT TIME FRAME.

SO WE HAVE 2 HOURS.

SO THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO SET THIS UP IS WE WILL GO BACK TO THE LIST WHERE WE HAD LEFT OFF LAST WEDNESDAY.

I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN JUST A SECOND.

WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FROM STAFF THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING.

THEN WE'LL TAKE SOME TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WELCOME THE PUBLIC UP TO SPEAK.

AND THEN WE WILL SHIFT TO A LISTING OF WHICH PROJECTS THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO POTENTIALLY TAKE ACTION ON OR HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT. SO I'LL IDENTIFY THAT LIST OF PROJECTS AND AT THAT POINT, ASK THE COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THEY MAY HAVE ON THOSE PROJECTS AND TAKE A

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BRIEF BREAK SO THAT WE CAN ORDER THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT.

THAT WAY WE CAN INVITE THE COUNCIL TO LEAVE THE ROOM IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON A SPECIFIC PROJECT AND THEN INVITE THEM BACK FOR THE BALANCE OF THE DISCUSSION.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS THOSE AND ANY MOTIONS, ANY ACTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE BASED UPON ACCELERATING OR DECELERATING A TIMELINE, TAKING SOMETHING OFF THE LIST, OR POTENTIALLY ADDING SOMETHING TO THE LIST.

AND THEN IN MAY, THE STAFF WILL COME BACK WITH WHAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE OR HOW THEY COULD POTENTIALLY SHIFT RESOURCES IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO THAT'S THE FLOW OF THE SESSION WITH A HARD STOP AT 2:00 BECAUSE OF THE NEXT MEETING THAT'S COMING.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL TACKLE.

JUST TO REMIND YOU OF WHERE WE WERE LAST WEDNESDAY, WE HAD INVITED EACH OF YOU TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT YOU JUST HAD QUESTIONS ON.

THESE ARE PROJECTS. THERE'S 55 PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING WOULD BE PART OF THAT FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN AND THAT WE'D ASK YOU TO IDENTIFY ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

AND THE ONES THAT ARE NUMBER 1 TO 8 OR THE ONES THAT ARE IN BLUE ARE ONES THAT WE TACKLED LAST WEEK.

SO WE HAD QUESTIONS ANSWERED ON THOSE.

THE REMAINING NUMBERS NINE THROUGH 20 THAT ARE IN GREEN ARE THE ONES THAT THEY'RE STILL, WE HADN'T QUITE ADDRESSED ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND JUST FOR EFFICIENCY SAKE, WE KIND OF ORDERED THESE TRIED TO GROUP THEM TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT, AND WE PUT THE INITIALS OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER BEHIND THE PROJECT SO WE CAN QUICKLY GO TO COUNCIL.

MEMBER BHAT-PATEL, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THIS PROJECT, OF COURSE, OTHER QUESTIONS ARE FULLY AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO ASK, BUT THAT'S THE ORDER IN WHICH WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS.

BEFORE I SHIFT TO THAT, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO PULL UP JUST TO REMIND US THE CODE OF ETHICS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER.

WE'VE HAD REALLY, REALLY RESPECTFUL AND COLLEGIAL AND COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATIONS HERE ABOUT THIS TOPIC.

THIS CAN BE A CHALLENGING CONVERSATION TO HAVE AS WE TALK ABOUT WHERE RESOURCES GO AND HOW THEY'RE ALIGNED OR REALIGNED.

SO I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN PUT THIS AS THE BACKDROP, PUT IT BACK UP THERE FOR YOU TO HAVE AT THE FOREFRONT OF YOUR MIND OF HOW WE ENGAGE IN RESPECTFUL, COLLEGIAL, COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATION WITH ONE ANOTHER HERE TODAY.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE PREPARED DEPUTY CITY MANAGER PAZ GOMEZ IS HERE AND SHE HAS PREPARED IF THERE ARE QUICK KIND OF GENERAL CONVERSATION OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THESE RELATED TO TIMELINE, SCOPE, SIZE AND OR CURRENT STATUS, SHE CAN QUICKLY ADDRESS THOSE. SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WHERE YOUR QUESTION LIES, IF YOU CAN JUST FLAG THAT FOR US AND I'LL TURN IT TO PAUSE TO ADDRESS THOSE.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC THAT YOU HAVE, WE CAN TRY TO TACKLE THOSE AS WELL.

SO COUNCILMEMBER BHAT-PATEL, LOVE YOURS, IS ACTUALLY NEXT UP HERE ON THE LIST IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY FOR US IF IT IS A MORE GENERAL ROLL COVERAGE YOU'D LIKE US TO DO IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ACTUALLY FOR ALL OF MINE LISTED.

THAT'S BASICALLY I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY ASK YOU THE SAME, IF WE COULD JUST ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY.

AND THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER MORE ELABORATE QUESTIONS THAN THAT.

EXCELLENT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR CONFIRMATION.

I THINK YOU JUST CONFIRMED IT FOR ME, BUT I THINK THERE MAY BE AN ERROR IN THAT.

I DON'T SEE MY INITIALS NEXT TO SEVERAL OF THE ITEMS THAT I SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT, LIKE STAGECOACH COMMUNITY GARDEN IN MY DISTRICT, LIKE THE SOUTH SHORE, IOWA, THE ON THE LAGOON TRAIL.

OKAY. I MEAN, I SUPPOSE IT DOESN'T.

AND ALSO ABOVE THAT SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTLINE ROAD REALIGNMENT, I SUPPOSE IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT MUCH IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I ACTUALLY PUT THOSE ON THE LIST AND I DIDN'T SEE MY INITIALS THERE.

THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. AND WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ASK WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE WHEN WE GET TO THAT PIECE, IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING MORE GENERAL THAT PAZ IS ABLE TO ANSWER. GREAT.

GLAD TO CORRECT FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. SO, YES, MAYOR HALL? JUST IN GENERAL, WERE WE GOING TO GET A PAGE ON WHAT IS GROWTH MANAGEMENT THAT IS TIED DIRECTLY TO GROWTH MANAGEMENT? WE CAN COVER THAT IN AS WE TURN OVER TO PAUSE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

ALSO IN THE PAST, THERE'S BEEN TALK AND I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THIS LIST OF CHESTNUT FROM CHESTNUT OVER THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY.

THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT A PROJECT THAT DEALT WITH THAT, WHETHER IT BE A ROAD OR WHETHER IT BE A WALKWAY OR SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S NOT PART OF THE FIVE YEAR LIST, BUT IT'S PART OF THE SOMEWHERE IN PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

WE CAN HAVE STAFF COMMENT ON THAT.

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ALL RIGHT. SO SHOULD WE.

GO AHEAD, PAZ, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

AND IF WE CAN QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THESE PROJECTS WITH THE GENERAL TIMELINE, HIGH LEVEL SCOPE STATUS, AND THEN IF YOU DO HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT THOSE, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS PRETTY RAPIDLY TO GET THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED SO WE CAN STICK TO OUR TIMELINE OR REDUCE [INAUDIBLE].

GREAT. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M PAZ GOMEZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR PUBLIC WORKS WHO OVERSEE THE CIP PROGRAM.

SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY RECOMMENDED ACTION YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.

AND SO I AM GOING TO REALLY GO QUICKLY ON TO THE VERY FIRST PROJECT.

SO AVENIDA ENCINAS COASTAL RAIL TRAIL AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS IS AN EXPANSION OF EXISTING BICYCLE FACILITIES TO BUFFERED BIKE LANES, ALSO INCLUDES NEW SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN RAMPS, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE POINSETTIA COASTER STATION AND MAY INCLUDE WIDENING TO ACCOMMODATE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC CALMING.

THERE ARE $7 MILLION OF FUNDING SO FAR, WHICH INCLUDES OUR TIFF OR TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES AND A FEDERAL GRANT.

AND WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION FOR AN ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF 9 MILLION.

THE CURRENT STATUS IS IT'S UNDER DESIGNED WITH AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF 2025.

DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE ON OR PAUSE FOR EACH PROJECT? I WILL CONTINUE ON.

SO NEXT IS THE AVENIDA ENCINAS PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS THE CROSSWALK ACROSS THE NORTH LEG OF THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD AND AVENIDA ENCINAS INTERSECTION.

TRAFFIC SIGNAL MODIFICATION AND RE STRIPING ARE INCLUDED TO ENHANCE SAFE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE AREA BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PREVIOUS RAPID RECTANGULAR FLASHING BEACON CROSSWALK FEATURE NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION IS NO LONGER NECESSARY SINCE A DEVELOPER TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL PROVIDE SAFE CROSSING.

THERE IS A LITTLE NOTE ABOUT THERE'S A SEPARATE OTHER PROJECT AT THAT SAME INTERSECTION.

IT ACTUALLY HAS A FLIP TITLE.

THAT'S THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, AVENIDA ENCINAS IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT'S REFERENCING THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN INTERSECTION WITH A LEFT TURN POCKET AND A RIGHT TURN OVERLAP.

SO THE COST THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IS 75,000 AND THE FUNDING IS THERE FOR ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF 140.

IT HAS NOT YET STARTED BUT AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF 2026 AND THAT IS TO BE FUNDED WITH GAS TAX FUNDS.

NEXT IS THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD REALIGNMENT, WHICH IS FROM MANZANO DRIVE TO ISLAND WAY.

SO THE SCOPE IS TO PREPARE STUDIES, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES REGARDING ROADWAY REALIGNMENT ALTERNATIVES, INCLUDING A NEW INTERSECTION AT PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD.

GOING TO CONSIDER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, LAND USES, COASTAL OPPORTUNITIES AND RELATED LONG TERM COASTAL PLANNING ISSUES.

THERE IS A SEPARATE PROJECT FROM THE SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTLINE, WHICH WILL START FROM FROM THE ISLAND WAY SOUTH TO THE BORDER, AND THAT'S CALLED THE SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTLINE ROAD REALIGNMENT AND PUBLIC SPACES, WHICH I WILL TOUCH ON SHORTLY.

AND THE REASON FOR THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO IS THE MANZANO DRIVE TO ISLAND WAY IS PART OF THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD CLIMATE ADAPTATION STUDY THAT'S ONGOING THAT WILL BE REPORTING TO CITY COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY OF 2023.

SO THE ESTIMATE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PORTION, WHICH IS ABOUT A ONE MILE SECTION, IS $1,000,000 OF FUNDING AVAILABLE SO FAR WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES.

AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE ARE TARGETING POTENTIALLY GOING FOR GRANT FUNDING.

UPON RECEIVING CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND DIRECTION EARLY NEXT YEAR TO ESTIMATE A COMPLETION DATE IS 2028.

SO NEXT IS THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WHICH HAS THE SCOPE OF CONSTRUCTING OFFICE SPACES TO CENTRALIZE FIRE DEPARTMENT MANAGEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION STAFF THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING OUT OF VARIOUS CITY LOCATIONS.

THE COST IS 150,000 OF GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUNDS, WHICH IS REALLY JUST TO STUDY WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE NOT YET STARTED ON THIS PROJECT AND THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE IS 2026.

NEXT IS THE FLEET MAINTENANCE REFURBISHMENT PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES STRUCTURAL MODIFICATION AND REFURBISHMENT, HVAC AND TENANT IMPROVEMENT WORK. IT ADDRESSES DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUES AS WELL AS REFURBISH EXISTING SYSTEMS WHICH HAVE REACHED THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE.

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THE COST OF $3 MILLION IS TO BE FUNDED WITH INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT FUND OR IRF AND GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUNDS, GCC, AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF 700,000 IS NEEDED FOR AN ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF 3.7 MILLION.

IT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PLANNING STAGE WITH AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF 2025.

THE SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTLINE ROAD REALIGNMENT AND PUBLIC SPACES, WHICH I HAD MENTIONED A FEW SECONDS AGO, INVOLVES AN INVESTIGATIVE STUDY OF FUTURE ROADWAY REALIGNMENT ALTERNATIVES, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, LAND USES, PUBLIC PARK AND COASTAL ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES AND RELATED LONG TERM COASTAL PLANNING ISSUES, CONSTRAINTS AND PROCESSES. WILL ANALYZE MORE DETAILED ALTERNATIVES.

CREATE OPTIONS AND COST ESTIMATES FOR THE REALIGNMENT OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD FROM ISLAND WAY TO THE SOUTHERN BORDER.

THE FUNDING SO FAR IS OVER $2.8 MILLION.

THE FUNDING SOURCE IS TRANSNET LOC STANDS FOR LOCAL FUNDS AND THE ADDITIONAL ESTIMATED WOULD BE OVER $80 MILLION. AND IT IS REALLY EARLY IN THE PLANNING STAGE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 60 TO $85 MILLION.

IT IS REALLY EARLY IN THE PHASE AND DEPENDING ON THAT, WE WILL ESTIMATE COMPLETION IN 2030.

THE SOUTH SHORE AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON TRAIL INVOLVES RECREATIONAL TRAIL PLANNED FROM I-5 NEW BRIDGE CROSSING TO THE BLUFF TOP WITHIN HUB PARK OVERLOOKING THE LAGOON.

IT WAS INTENDED TO LOOP AROUND TO STRAWBERRY FIELDS AND OPEN SPACE, PROVIDING CONNECTION TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF CANYON ROAD THROUGH EXISTING UNDERPASSES.

IT INCLUDES DECOMPOSED GRANITE SURFACE TRAIL EDGING AND BASIC TRAILHEAD AMENITIES SUCH AS TRAIL IDENTIFICATION AND REGULATION SIGNS, DOG STATIONS AND RECYCLING SLASH TRASH RECEPTACLES.

WE HAVE FUNDING SO FAR OF $790,000 OF GCC.

WE ARE LOOKING AT AN ADDITIONAL $4 MILLION AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT THE STATUS OF PLANNING TRAIL DEVELOPMENT, SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO IS SDG&E.

AND ON NOVEMBER 16TH OF 2021, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO REENGAGE REFS ON CONSTRAINTS OR CONCERNS IN AN EFFORT TO GAIN GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO ESTIMATE A COMPLETION DATE IS 2024.

NEXT IS THE STAGECOACH PARK COMMUNITY GARDEN, WHICH WILL CONVERT AN UNDERUTILIZED MAINTENANCE YARD INTO A RAISED CONTAINER COMMUNITY GARDEN WITH 20 PLUS RAISED PLANTING BEDS, IRRIGATION, PERIMETER FENCING AND LIGHTING, SECURITY CAMERAS, A SHADE STRUCTURE, EDUCATIONAL KIOSK, COMPOSTING BINS, TOOL STORAGE TABLES AND BENCHES AND ADDRESSES THE DEMAND FOR COMMUNITY GARDENS IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT.

SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO FUNDING.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PARK IN LIEU SOUTHWEST QUADRANT FUNDING.

ADDITIONAL FUNDING NEEDED IS 500,000.

IT'S IN THE PLANNING STAGE AND A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING ONLY WITH AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF 2024.

NEXT IS THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE ARE INITIATING, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE FOR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WHERE EVERY YEAR WE WOULD HAVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS FOR EACH PROGRAM.

SO THIS ONE WILL IMPROVE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION ON VARIOUS ROADS AS IDENTIFIED AND A SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

IT WILL ESTABLISH THE ANNUAL PROGRAM PENDING COMPLETION OF PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING COSTING STUDY AND THE CURRENT PROJECT FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL INCLUDE LOCATIONS SUCH AS CANYON ROAD AND PASEO DEL NORTE, JEFFERSON STREET, LA CASA AVENUE, LAS FLORES STREET AND TAMARACK AVENUE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING ONE.

WE HAVE FUNDING FOR $1 MILLION USING GAS TAX FUNDS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF 2 MILLION.

THE STATUS IS IT HAS NOT YET STARTED, BUT WE ARE ESTIMATING COMPLETION DATE OF 2023 FOR THE PORTION THAT WE ARE STARTING NEXT YEAR.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT IS AN ONGOING PROGRAM.

CAN YOU PAUSE RIGHT THERE? YES, MA'AM. YES, THANK YOU.

JUST BRIEFLY ON ON THAT, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, ARE SOME OF THE CIP PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ALSO INCORPORATED INTO THIS? BECAUSE I KNOW MANY OF THEM ARE IDENTIFYING MULTIMODAL TRANSIT OPTIONS AS IMPROVEMENTS.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF SOME OF THEM ARE FEEDING INTO THAT AS WELL?

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CORRECT. YES. SO THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY WITH SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, THIS IS OUR MEANS OF BEING ABLE TO TO EXECUTE THEM AND ROLL THEM INTO AN ONGOING ANNUAL PROGRAM.

SO ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT ARE PART OF THE SMP, WE ARE LOOKING AT EXECUTING THOSE AS WELL.

GREAT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE UTILITY UNDERGROUNDING PROGRAM, WHICH IS TO PREPARE A STUDY TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE APPROACHES, TO FUND AND IMPLEMENT THE UNDERGROUNDING OF OVERHEAD UTILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IT WILL IMPROVE COMMUNITY DESIGN, CHARACTER AND SAFETY ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

FUNDING THAT HAD BEEN SET ASIDE IS 100,000 OF GCQ OR GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION.

WE WILL NEED AN ADDITIONAL 400,000 OR 500,000 AND FOR A TOTAL OF 500,000.

IT HAS NOT YET STARTED, BUT THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION IS 2025.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR THE STUDY.

IT ISN'T TO UNDERGROUND ANY UTILITY.

IT IS BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING AVAILABILITY THAT IS THROUGH THE RULE OF 20A PROGRAM WITH SDG&E.

NEXT IS THE VALLEY AND MAGNOLIA COMPLETE STREETS.

THE SCOPE IS TO CONSTRUCT SIDEWALKS, BIKE PATHS AND GREEN STREET FEATURES AND TO PLACE UTILITIES UNDERGROUND TO REPLACE WATER MAIN AND TO CLOSE GAPS IN PEDESTRIAN ROUTES FOR STUDENTS ATTENDING CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL, VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND MAGNOLIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THE COST IS $4.8 MILLION TO HAVE BEEN FUNDED SO FAR.

WE DO HAVE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES, WATER REPLACEMENT FEES, AS WELL AS TRANSNET, LOCAL FEES AVAILABLE.

ADDITIONAL NEEDED IS OVER $3 MILLION FOR A TOTAL COST OF 8 MILLION.

IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN AND WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF 2026.

WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR MAYOR HALL.

YES, SIR. QUESTION OR MAYBE A STATEMENT.

I CAN REMEMBER GOING BACK 20 YEARS AND HAVING THIS SLIDE MAYBE 25 YEARS.

BE CAREFUL. THIS COULD BE A LANDMINE.

YOU REALLY NEED TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE WHEN YOU USE THE WORD SIDEWALKS AND SOME OF THESE OTHER WORDS, BECAUSE THAT WAS A VERY THAT WAS A REAL TOUCH POINT.

AND THE REASON THAT ISN'T DONE TODAY IS BECAUSE OF THE LANDOWNERS WHO ABUT THOSE STREETS.

SO JUST A POINT OF NOTORIETY, IF YOU WILL.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND THE LAST PROJECT IS THE NEW CITY HALL AND CIVIC COMPLEX, WHICH IS THE CITY HALL WAS BUILT IN 1967 AND HAS SINCE EXPANDED OPERATIONS TO MULTIPLE LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY, INCLUDING THIS BUILDING.

FARADAY VISITORS ENCOUNTER A CONFUSING AND INEFFICIENT ARRAY OF BUILDINGS, MANY OF WHICH NEED SIGNIFICANT MAINTENANCE AND MODERNIZATION.

THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER IS FREQUENTLY AT CAPACITY AND CANNOT ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT MEETINGS.

SO FAR, THERE'S $51 MILLION OF FUNDING AVAILABLE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY FACILITY, DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, CFD NUMBER ONE.

WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL $20.7 MILLION FOR AN ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF 71.7.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE PLANNING STAGE AND SO STAFF WILL BE PRESENTING TO CITY COUNCIL THIS SUMMER FOR SITE SELECTION AMONG THE FOUR SITES RIGHT NOW. ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE IS 2029.

COUNCIL MEMBER KIEFER. I LIKE THAT, KIEFER.

SOMEBODY CONTACTED ME AND SAID, SUCK IT UP.

STAY IN AN OLD CITY HALL WITH $51 MILLION.

WE CAN DO A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

EXPLAIN ABOUT HOW THAT MONEY WAS ACQUIRED AND WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND IT ON.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP MR. BARBERIO TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY BEHIND CFD NUMBER ONE, PLEASE.

YOU CAN COME TO HERE, TOO.

YEAH.

SO THE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCE FOR CITY HALL WOULD BE THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, WHICH WAS A DISTRICT SET UP, I BELIEVE, IN THE EIGHTIES.

AND IT WAS INTENDED TO FUND A LIST OF SPECIFIC PROJECTS OF WHICH THERE ARE FOUR PROJECTS REMAINING.

ONE IS CITY HALL, ONE IS VETERANS PARK, COAL LIBRARY, REBUILD.

AND I ALWAYS FORGET THE FOURTH ONE.

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I SAID VETERANS.

OH, I'M SORRY, PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

AND SO THAT MONEY WAS COLLECTED FROM DEVELOPERS AND CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THOSE FACILITIES TO BUILD THOSE FACILITIES.

IT FUNDED A LIST OF A TOTAL OF NINE OTHER PROJECTS.

SO A TOTAL OF 13 PROJECTS, I BELIEVE.

SO IT CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE THAN THOSE FOUR REMAINING FACILITIES.

SO IF WE DON'T SPEND IT ON CITY HALL AND IT DOESN'T GET USED FOR THE OTHER FACILITIES, IN LEGAL THEORY, IT WOULD NEED TO BE RETURNED TO THOSE WHO PAID IT. GREAT.

WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER, NORBY AND THEN MAYOR HALL.

THANK YOU. SO THE THE FUNDING SO FAR AT 51 MILLION, DOES THAT INCLUDE ANY OF THE I GUESS I WOULD SAY WITH CITY HALL, I KNOW THERE ARE FOUR LOCATIONS, BUT IN MY MIND THERE'S PROBABLY TWO THAT WILL RISE TO THE TOP.

AND SO IF ONE IS CHOSEN, THEN THE OTHER ONE NO LONGER IS NECESSARY.

LET'S JUST SAY THE FARMERS BUILDING OR THE EXISTING CITY HALL IF WE MOVE IT.

SO DOES THAT FUNDING SO FAR INCLUDE THE LAND VALUE, ASSUMING WE WERE TO DISPOSE OF A PROPERTY THAT WE'VE BEEN HOLDING FOR CITY HALL? WHAT THE NUMBERS YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE LAND VALUE.

SO IT REALLY I HATE TO GIVE AN ANSWER.

IT DEPENDS, BUT IT DOES ON WHICH SITE IS CHOSEN.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE BOUGHT THE FARMERS PROPERTY TO BE CITY HALL.

WE BOUGHT IT WITH COMMUNITY FACILITIES, DISTRICT FUNDS.

IF WE DON'T BUILD CITY HALL THERE, THEN WE NEED TO SELL THAT PROPERTY AND THE MONEY NEEDS TO GO BACK INTO THE DISTRICT.

SO THAT IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT WAS BOUGHT WITH CFD NUMBER ONE FUNDS FOR CITY HALL.

THE OTHER THREE SITES, THIS SITE THAT WE'RE IN HERE, THIS WAS ACTUALLY BOUGHT WITH PUBLIC FACILITY FEE FUNDS AND THOSE ARE MORE GENERAL. SO WE COULD THE MAJORITY OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THIS BUILDING WOULD BE LOCATED IN THE NEW CITY HALL.

THE REMAINDER WOULD WOULD BE IN THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, THE RYAN CENTER.

BUT WE COULD LEASE THIS BUILDING OUT AND USE THAT REVENUE TO PAY FOR CITY HALL.

WE COULD SELL THIS PROPERTY, USE THAT REVENUE FOR CITY HALL.

IT'S VERY NOT AS PRESCRIPTIVE AS THE CFD FUNDS AND THEN PINE AND EXISTING CITY HALL SITE WHERE LONG TIME OWNERSHIP AND BOUGHT WITH JUST GENERAL FUNDS.

SO YES, DEPENDING ON WHAT SITE IS CHOSEN, THERE WILL BE REAL ESTATE AND POTENTIAL REVENUE FOR FUNDING A CITY HALL OR OTHER THINGS AVAILABLE.

MAYOR HALL. YES.

UM, WHEN YOU SAY CITY HALL CIVIC CENTER, IS THAT BEING THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER? SO WHEN THE COUNCIL ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED A CITY HALL GOAL, THEY DID THAT THE FIRST YEAR.

AND THE SECOND YEAR THEY AMENDED THE GOAL TO SAY THEY WANTED TO PURSUE A CITY HALL ON A SITE THAT WAS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE A CIVIC CENTER, TRYING TO CREATE A PLACE, A SENSE OF PLACE.

THE DEFINITION OF WHAT'S IN A CIVIC CENTER IS IS LEFT TO BE DETERMINED, CLEARLY WOULD INCLUDE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE BUILDING OF A CITY HALL, AND IT COULD INCLUDE OTHER THINGS, LIKE IF IT WAS THE EXISTING CITY HALL LOCATION, THE COLE LIBRARY, REBUILD.

AND SO WHEN WE COME TO THE COUNCIL, PROBABLY BEFORE YOUR SUMMER BREAK WITH AN UPDATE ON THIS PROJECT, IF NOT, THEN RIGHT AFTER YOUR BREAK, WE WILL BE TELLING YOU AND PRESENTING TO YOU INFORMATION THAT TELLS YOU IF WE LOCATED CITY HALL ON EACH OF THE FOUR SITES, WHAT KIND OF LAND AREA WOULD BE AVAILABLE STILL REMAINING TO TO ACCOMMODATE A CIVIC CENTER THAT COULD INCLUDE PERFORMING ARTS, LIBRARY, OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES.

IT'S REALLY LEFT TO BE DETERMINED, BUT THE DIRECTION WAS THE CITY HALL AND THE CONTEXT OF A LARGER CIVIC CENTER.

AND MY ONLY CONCERN IS, I'M SURE THE 71 MILLION IS JUST CITY HALL.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING ELSE.

YES. AND THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FORM WE'RE USING FOR ALL THIS INFORMATION THAT'S REALLY ESTIMATED OF WHAT FUNDING WE WE ARE PRETTY CERTAIN THAT WILL COME FROM CFD NUMBER ONE.

THAT IS NOT WHAT A CITY HALL WILL COST.

WE GAVE THE COUNCIL IN 2017 A FUNDING AND COST ANALYSIS PRESENTATION, AND AT THAT TIME WE HAD A PER

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SQUARE FOOT RANGE OF WHAT CITY HALL'S IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AT THAT TIME.

WE'RE BEING BUILT FOR THE TOP END OF THAT RANGE IS IS PROBABLY NOW THE LOW END OF THE CONSTRUCTION RANGE.

AND WE ALSO PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN 2019-2020 TIME FRAME A SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS.

NOW THAT SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS GAVE US A NUMBER OF GAVE US A SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBER OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD NEED TO ACCOMMODATE EXISTING CITY STAFF AT THAT TIME AND BUILD OUT THROUGH BUILT OUT NOW THAT WAS DONE PRE-COVID PRE TELECOMMUTING SO THAT NUMBER IS PROBABLY HIGH BUT BASED ON THAT SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS AND THAT 2017 AND SOME UPDATED NUMBERS WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU SOON.

I THINK THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR A CITY HALL, THE SIZE THAT WILL PROBABLY NEED IT WILL BE PROBABLY IN THE 100 TO 120 MILLION RANGE. BUT WE DO HAVE THE CFD FUND AS A MAJOR SOURCE OF THAT FUNDING.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SITE.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE SITE.

AND TO THE EXTENT OF WHETHER IT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED AS A ONE STORY STRUCTURE OR A TWO STORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE COSTS GO UP.

AND ALSO HOW YOU ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING, WHETHER IT'S STRUCTURE OR SURFACE OR WHEN I SAY STRUCTURE ABOVE GROUND OR BELOW GROUND.

SO WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION AND SOME CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATES FOR ALL FOUR SITES IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DEPTH THAT YOU JUST WENT INTO.

GARY. SO MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS REMIND ME, LAST WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT HOW MANY NEW EMPLOYEES.

70 SOMETHING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

YES. I'M THANK YOU, SCOTT.

AND THE ANSWER IS, I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS, HOLD ON.

WHERE IS.

LAURA. DO YOU HAVE A TOTAL AMOUNT OF FTE AT.

IN THE 19S.

AND THEN HE USED A NUMBER OF MANAGEMENT, NEW EMPLOYEES.

OF THAT, HOW MANY WERE THOSE MANAGERS? WE DID NOT HAVE THE AMOUNT OF MANAGERS AT THAT POINT.

WHEN WE DISCLOSED THE 70 LAST TIME, I CAN GET THAT.

RATHER QUICKLY, LET ME GO.

THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING THIS, ALL YOUR ANALYSIS WERE DONE PRIOR TO THESE HIRES.

AND I DON'T KNOW, GARY, IF YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE THAT KIND OF INCREASE IN OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH MANAGERS, THEY NEED OFFICE SPACE.

SO YEAH, SO WE DID WE DID PROJECT FROM THE 2019-2020 TIMEFRAME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER TWO, BUT WE'LL BE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION AGAIN WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH AN UPDATE.

BUT AGAIN, I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THAT NEEDS A SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WE DID WAS PRE-COVID WE PROBABLY NEED TO REEVALUATE THAT WE'RE IN ABOUT AND I'M SAYING THIS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE EMPLOYEES WE THINK OR THE GROUPS WE THINK WILL BE GOING TO CITY HALL.

SO MOST OF THE FARADAY BUILDING, ALL THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY HOUSED AT CITY HALL, PARKS AND REC, ADMIN, LIBRARY ADMIN WHO WERE AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, WHEN YOU TOTAL ALL THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE UP EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE, IT'S ABOUT 95,000-ISH, THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE PROJECTING THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT PROJECTED 141,000 SQUARE FEET.

I WOULD SAY THAT'S HIGH, THOUGH.

SO AND IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THERE WAS SOME EXCESS SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR GROWTH.

I REMEMBER YOU GIVEN US THAT NUMBER ALSO.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT SEEMS TO ME OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS OR THREE YEARS, WE'VE HIRED A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE PART OF YOUR ESTIMATES.

YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR HALL, FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

THAT'LL HELP INFORM THE CONVERSATION IN JUNE TIME FRAME.

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COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THIS? I DID WHAT I HEARD.

I MEAN, I GUESS FOR MY 20% HERE, I'D LIKE TO END THE DISCUSSION.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LIBRARY FOR PROBABLY 25 YEARS PLUS NOW.

A LIBRARY OR CITY HALL? I'M SORRY. CITY HALL.

YEAH, FOR 25 YEARS PLUS NOW I CAN REMEMBER THREE DISTINCT PHASES OF DREAMING ON WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT.

AND I'D LIKE THIS COUNCIL TO KIND OF GET ON WITH IT, MAKE A DECISION.

AND IF WE CAN'T NARROW IT DOWN OR MAKE A DECISION, THEN I'D LIKE OUR CITIZENS TO MAKE THAT DECISION FOR US.

AND SO BASED ON WHAT I HEARD, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TIMING NOT MAKING THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

SO IF WE CAN'T GET THERE BUT COUNCIL DESIRES TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE ELECTION, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT IN NOVEMBER OR IS THIS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS ANOTHER TWO YEARS DOWN THE LINE BEFORE WE DEAL WITH IT? BECAUSE AGAIN, AS A CITIZEN, I'VE BEEN HEARING CITY HALL FOR 25 YEARS AND I'D LIKE TO GET ON WITH IT.

[INAUDIBLE] TO RESPOND TO THAT IT'S WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH A REPORT.

THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT SOMETHING FOR AN ADVISORY VOTE, I BELIEVE, IS IN AUGUST.

I WANT TO SAY IT'S AUGUST 12TH.

SO WE WILL HAVE TIME IN THE EVENT THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DIRECT US TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT OR JUST ULTIMATELY MAKE THE DECISION.

SO I WE DON'T WANT TO CUT TO THE CHASE TOO QUICKLY ON THAT BEFORE WE'VE HAD THAT INFORMED DISCUSSION BEFORE COUNCIL.

AND JUST ALSO A QUICK THOUGHT.

CITY HALL, ALTHOUGH SOME OF US WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN IT BUILT 20 YEARS AGO, REALLY THE IDEA BY WAITING IS SO WE WOULD KNOW THE ULTIMATE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET WE NEED TO CREATE THE RIGHT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

SO AS TIME GOES ON, COUNCILS CHANGE, STATE DEMANDS GET GREATER, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

YOU WOULD HATE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND END UP BEING 10% SHORT OR SOMETHING.

SO THERE IS SOME METHOD TO THE TO THE REASON WE'RE DOING IT THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, JUST A REALLY FAST FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MATT'S QUESTION WAS ABOUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THAT REALLY IS IRRELEVANT.

WE'RE JUST WHAT I WANT TO HEAR IS HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL BE AT CITY HALL.

AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE EMPLOYEES WE HIRED ARE POLICE, FIRE MECHANICS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HOUSED AT CITY HALL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. THANKS. GREAT.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? SORRY. NO WORRIES.

JUST TO FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILMEMBER NORBY'S, QUESTION AROUND IF WE COULD PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT IF WE DID END UP CHOOSING TO GO THAT DIRECTION.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE WITH REGARDS TO POTENTIALLY PUTTING MONROE STREET POOL ON THERE AS WELL.

DO WE HAVE ESTIMATES AROUND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? I KNOW WE DID FOR MONROE STREET POOL, BUT JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THIS ADVISORY VOTE AS WELL IF WE DID END UP ADDING THAT IF I UNDERSTOOD COUNCIL OR COUNCILMAN NORBY QUESTIONED, IT WAS REALLY AROUND SITE SELECTION ADVISORY NOT SIMILAR TO MONROE, WHICH WOULD BE A PROP H VOTE.

WE CHOOSE A SITE.

WE WE FIGURE OUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE.

AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE KNOW OF, CFD NUMBER ONE, AND OTHER CREATIVE THINGS LIKE THE REAL ESTATE AND ET CETERA.

WE STILL WE MAY NEED A PROP VOTE BECAUSE WE MAY NEED TO PUT SOME GENERAL FUND IN, BUT WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I THINK WHAT COUNCILMEMBER NORBY WAS REFERRING TO WAS AN ADVISORY VOTE ABOUT WHICH LOCATION AND THEN IF WE NEEDED A PROP VOTE, THAT WOULD COME LATER. SURE.

AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAD WAS, IS THERE ARE THERE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH AN ADVISORY VOTE? AND IF SO, WHAT THOSE WOULD BE? WE ADVISORY VOTE.

IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, I THINK WE'RE PEGGING THAT EACH ITEM THAT WE PLACE ON A NOVEMBER BALLOT WOULD ADD APPROXIMATELY 65,000 OF COSTS.

GREAT. THAT WAS A QUESTION.

NO, THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU. GREAT.

OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COVERED AS FAR AS.

YES, COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA? YES. THANK YOU.

THE LAST TIME THE PART ONE OF THIS WORKSHOP, WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT KIND OF MATCHING FUNDS AND FINDING OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.

AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT THE FUNDING SOURCES COLUMN IS INCLUDED IN THIS BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL PACKET, BUT THERE'S STILL OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES. AND I KNOW FROM FROM SOME OF OUR RECENT CONVERSATIONS FROM THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT EVEN WHEN WE'RE GOING TO OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, THEY WANT TO SEE PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE PUT IN MATCHING FUNDING.

WE'VE PUT IN SOME FUNDING AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT READY TO KIND OF PONY UP WITH SOME OF THEIR FUNDING UNTIL WE'RE NEAR THE END, NEAR COMPLETION.

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AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO FUND ANYWAY.

LIKE RIGHT NOW IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOME YEARS IT'S SEA LEVEL RISE RELATED OR IT'S PARKS RELATED.

SO THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OF FINDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR SOME OF THESE AS LONG AS WE'RE MOVING DOWN THE ROAD PRETTY FAR.

SO IT'S KIND OF A TOUGH THING TO MAKE SOME OF THESE DECISIONS WHEN WE DON'T YET KNOW HOW WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THESE SLIDES.

AND CAN I FOLLOW UP ON IT? THAT'S A VERY GOOD AND I THINK EVEN FOR NOT ONLY FOR OUR KNOWLEDGE, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY'S KNOWLEDGE.

AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING LAST TIME, WHEN SCOTT SAYS, OH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE OVER $1,000,000,000.

I MEAN, THAT SENT ME BACK TO MY CHAIR AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME.

BUT I THINK IN FAIRNESS TO THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, EACH ONE OF THESE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER COLUMN OF APPROXIMATE FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES.

SO WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE REALIZE THAT THIS ISN'T ALL GOING TO HAVE TO JUST COME OUT OF OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY.

SO THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THOUGHT.

YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER NORBY? THANK YOU. ON THE SOUTH SHORE, AGUA CALIENTE LAGOON TRAIL.

I KNOW THAT WAS BEFORE COUNCIL SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

AND I REMEMBER THE STAFF REPORT AND IT WAS JUST THAT WE WEREN'T WE WEREN'T IN AGREEMENT.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HADN'T BEEN WORKED OUT YET AND STAFF WAS GOING TO TRY AND WORK THAT OUT.

AND SO HAVE WE. HAVE WE MOVED THAT BALL AT ALL AND WE GOTTEN CLOSER TO SOME AGREEMENTS WITH, AS WE CONSIDER WHETHER WE SHOULD MOVE THIS UP OR SLOW IT DOWN OR FUND IT OR NOT OR WE WHERE WE WERE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. MR. LANCASTER IS COMING UP TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

KYLE LANCASTER PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.

IT WAS NOVEMBER 16TH, 2021.

WE RECEIVED COUNCIL DIRECTION TO GO BACK AND REENGAGE THE INTEREST GROUPS, IN PARTICULAR SDG&E AS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SEE IF WE COULD GAIN GREATER FLEXIBILITY WITH THE CONSTRAINTS AND CONCERNS THEY HAD OVER THE TRAIL ALIGNMENT.

IF YOU RECALL, SDG&E WOULD NO LONGER ALLOW US TO CONTINUE BEYOND THE HUB PARK PROPERTY.

THEY ALSO WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO USE THE EXISTING ACCESS ROADS DOUBLING AS TRAILS.

INSTEAD, WE HAD TO MODIFY OUR TRAIL DESIGN, REDUCE IT BY APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE OF THE ORIGINAL 2.5 MILES, AND THAT INVOLVED SIGNIFICANT HABITAT IMPACT AND THEREFORE RESTORATION MITIGATION.

SO HAVING SAID ALL THAT, WE HAVE REENGAGED WITH SDG&E ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS, MOST RECENTLY JUST LAST WEEK, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FURTHER FLEXIBILITY FROM THEM IN TERMS OF THE TRAIL ALIGNMENT OR CONTINUING BEYOND THE HUB PARK PROPERTY.

THE ONLY MOVEMENT THAT I RECEIVED WAS A DESCRIPTION OF THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPLORING A DIRT PARKING LOT AT THE ADJACENT STRAWBERRY FIELDS PROPERTY.

THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC DECISION THAT WOULD OCCUR, SIMPLY THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO EXPLORE IT.

THERE WERE NO COSTS PROVIDED WITH THAT.

SO IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL PROJECT, THE 3.7 MILLION LOW END OF THE RANGE THAT WE GAVE YOU IN THE SLIDE, THAT'S THE SAME NUMBER THAT WE GAVE YOU IN NOVEMBER THAT DID NOT INCLUDE A PARKING LOT AT THAT TIME.

SO THE 3.7 REMAINS.

AND THEN IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL COSTS WITH THIS DIRT PARKING LOT, THAT WOULD BE ON TOP OF THAT ORIGINAL FIGURE.

THANK YOU. ANY REMAINING QUESTIONS ON PROJECTS YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR? OK.

WOULD WE LIKE TO GO TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT LIST SO THAT I KNOW THAT WAS ONE THAT MAYOR HALL HAD REQUESTED? SURE. OKAY. OOPS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SO ON THIS LIST, MAYOR, YOU HAD ASKED FOR WHICH OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE INVOLVED WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

AND I CAN GO DOWN THE LIST, BUT THERE ARE 13 OF THEM THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, [INAUDIBLE] AND SEEN AS COASTAL RAIL TRAIL AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARAC AVENUE, PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS TO COLE LIBRARY EXPANSION, COLLEGE BOULEVARD EXTENSION, EL CAMINO REAL AND CANYON ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

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EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING FROM POINSETTIA LANE TO CAMINO EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING FROM ARENAL ROAD TO LA COSTA AVENUE, MELROSE DRIVE RIGHT TURN LANE TO WESTBOUND PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD AND AVENIDA ENCINAS IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS WAS THE SECOND PORTION THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD AND COLLEGE BOULEVARD IMPROVEMENTS.

SEWER MONITORING PROGRAM AND TRAFFIC MONITORING PROGRAM AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT LIST.

SO WHEN I SEE THIS LIST, IT TELLS ME THAT 60 TO 80% OF THIS IS PROBABLY BEING FUNDED BY DEVELOPERS.

SO I GUESS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION WOULD BE HOW MUCH OF THAT DO WE HAVE WE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED BY GETTING THE MONEY FROM DEVELOPERS IN ORDER TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD IT? HOW MUCH WE'RE SHORT.

AND THEN SOME OF THOSE THE DEVELOPMENT HASN'T EVEN OCCURRED YET TO TRIGGER THE TO TRIGGER THE THE PROJECT I.E.

COLLEGE BOULEVARD EXTENSION.

SO JUST AS I'M THINKING THINGS THROUGH, MY PRIORITY WOULD ALWAYS BE GROWTH MANAGEMENT FIRST WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE TRIGGERS AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT, I.E.

DEVELOPER FEES, AND THE IMPROVEMENT WAS TO COME IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE AND SO THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, TAKING OUT OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MONEY OR OTHER FUNDS.

AND LET'S SAY, YES, WE COULD GET IT FROM THE STATE OR THE FEDS BE PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT A DEVELOPER SHOULD BE PAYING FOR.

SO IT'S MORE OR LESS INFORMATION FOR FURTHER ON DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE, BUT IN PRIORITIZATION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR HALL.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO I THINK WE NOW, MAYOR, WERE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY, CITY CLERK.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY JOHN PIMENTEL.

HELLO. I QUESTION EVERYTHING STARTING WITH STEP ONE.

MY WIFE WOULD HAVE MY WIFE'S RETIRED TEACHER 39 YEARS.

SHE WOULD HAVE RUN THIS MEETING FOR FREE INSTEAD OF BRINGING IN SOMEBODY FROM SOME OTHER CITY TO RUN THIS MEETING.

THERE'S A LOT OF TALENT, A LOT OF EDUCATION ON THE CITY PAYROLL.

I SURE DON'T KNOW WHY THESE THINGS ALWAYS OCCUR WHERE A STRANGER SHOWS UP FOR A WEEK OR TWO, GETS PAID A TON OF MONEY, AND THEN THEY'RE GONE.

NEXT, MATT HALL, YOU'RE ONE OF THE MOST DECENT PEOPLE I'VE EVER KNOWN.

I'M SURE GLAD THAT YOU'VE BEEN OUR MAYOR FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, BUT YOU'VE BEEN A VERY GOOD MAYOR.

AND I THANK YOU, SIR. AND YOU'VE MADE SOME COMMENTS HERE TODAY THAT I THINK ARE VERY GOOD.

FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MENTIONED CHESTNUT, HOW TO CROSS CHESTNUT SAFELY, YOU KNOW, OVER OR UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

NOW, THAT REMINDS YOU IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, YOU WALK A QUARTER MILE TO THE SOUTH, CROSS SAFELY THERE.

IT'S CLEAN AND IT'S DECENT.

BUT TO THE NORTH, WE NEED THAT GRAND AVENUE PROMENADE THAT GARY NESSIM IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES.

HE'S GOT THIS WONDERFUL PLAN THAT HE WORKED OUT WITH MR. WILKINSON, WHERE PEDESTRIAN TUNNEL WILL BE BOARD UNDER THE FREEWAY, AND THAT'LL BE PHENOMENAL.

MY WIFE AND I ARE THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE CARLSBAD WALKERS.

WE DO THAT VERY EFFECTIVELY.

WE LIKE TO CARRY POLITICAL SIGNS DURING OUR WALKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT LATER THIS YEAR.

SO NOBODY HAS MENTIONED PUBLIC TOILETS ALONG THE MAIN BOULEVARD.

THEY'RE WONDERFUL. EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY IS TERRIBLE.

IF YOU EXIT THE FREEWAY, EXIT THE FIVE AT LOS FLORES AND GO EAST THE BLOCK OR TWO, YOU'LL GET TO THE BACK SIDE OF BUENA VISTA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE THERE ARE THREE PORTA JOHNS.

BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS PORTA JOHNS.

WHEREVER THERE'S A MEDIAN AND BUILT UP MEDIAN, THERE COULD BE PUBLIC RESTROOMS THERE.

AND NOW THE POWER LINES, 500,000 STUDY FOR THE POWER LINES.

I CAN SAVE YOU THE $500,000 RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, IT WAS ON THE TV THAT SDG&E, WAS SPENDING $3 MILLION A MILE AND $3 MILLION PER MILE IN JULIAN TO BURY THEM. AND NOW THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, FOR SOME STRANGE REASON, TOOK A CHECK FROM SDG&E AND TOOK ON THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PULLING DOWN THOSE POWER LINES. WHICH MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

AND I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR TWO YEARS.

HOW BIG OF A CHECK DID SDG&E GIVE TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO TAKE ON THIS RIDICULOUS RESPONSIBILITY? IF SDG&E SPENT $3 MILLION PER MILE IN JULIAN, HOW MUCH WILL GOVERNMENT SPENT TO DO THE SAME THING? CERTAINLY AT LEAST 5 MILLION.

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SO I THINK THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO PULL THOSE POWER LINES DOWN BECAUSE YOU TOOK MONEY FROM SDG&E BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN PIMENTEL, FOLLOWED BY GIL ALVARADO.

HI. I'M JOHN PIMENTEL.

YES, YOU ALL YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER WORKS FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

HIS NAME IS JOE PIMENTEL.

AND I SEE A LOT OF YOU IN HERE.

THAT HE KNOWS AND THAT I KNOW.

I'VE GROWN UP IN THIS TOWN 71 YEARS ALL MY LIFE.

I HAVE A PROBLEM.

I LIVE ON TYLER COURT STREET IN THE TYLER COURT APARTMENTS.

IT IS A VERY, VERY TOUGH STREET TO CROSS, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AT TYLER COURT.

THERE ARE 78 APARTMENTS.

THERE ARE OVER 80 PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

MOST OF THEM USE WALKERS.

MOST OF THEM USE WHEELCHAIRS.

MOST OF THEM USE CANES AND CRUTCHES.

I'VE HAD A PROBLEM MYSELF.

I'VE HAD A VERY SERIOUS ACCIDENT.

I'VE BEEN OUT THERE WATCHING THE TRAFFIC GO BY AND IT SPEEDS BY.

WE WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING SPEED BUMPS IN.

ADDITIONAL PARKING.

GET THE STOP SIGNS THERE AT ROOSEVELT AND CHESTNUT.

ALSO STOP SIGNS AT.

I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME.

I HAVE STAPLES IN MY HEAD.

AT PINE STREET IN ROSEWOOD ALSO.

IF YOU COULD DO THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ARE ALL TRIBAL HERE, FOLKS.

IT TAKES A TRIBE TO BRING UP A COMMUNITY.

I MEAN YOU. I'VE LIVED IN THIS TOWN FOR A LONG TIME.

MY GRANDFATHER, WHO'S JOSE CASTRO, CAME HERE IN 1887 AND BROUGHT THIS CITY FROM NOTHING TO WHAT IT IS NOW. FOLKS.

HAVE SOME PATIENCE WITH EVERYONE THIS TRY AND GET THINGS DONE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS TRYING TO GET DONE.

IT'S FOR EVERYBODY'S SAFETY AND IT'S FOR OUR FUTURE.

THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GIL ALVARADO, FOLLOWED BY GARY NEWSOM.

OKAY. HELLO.

MY NAME IS GIL ALVARADO.

I ALSO LIVE ON TYLER STREET.

AND I OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT MR. PIMENTAL. THE HOUSE THAT I LIVE IN HAS A NICE FULL PORCH AND I SIT OUT THERE PERIODICALLY DRINKING COFFEE OR DRINKING TEA IN THE EVENINGS, AND I INEVITABLY SEE PEOPLE LODGING CARS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING BOTH WAYS.

SO FOR ME, I'M, I'M, I COME OUT OF THE SCHOOL A PROACTIVE AND INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL SOMEBODY GETS HURT AND THEN IT BECOMES A SHOULD HAVE SORT OF WOULD HAVE.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BE CONSIDER BRINGING TYLER STREET UP TO A MAJOR PRIORITY ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GARY NEWOM FOLLOWED BY LYNN SCHULTY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. SOMEBODY HAD A QUESTION OR WOULD SAY ONE WAY OR.

YOU CAN START MY 3 MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO FINISH THE TYLER STREET COMMENTS AND THAT THE REQUEST IS ALSO BEING MADE TO MAKE TYLER STREET A ONE WAY STREET, AS WE SHOULD DO ON CREST DRIVE AND HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE STREET DESIGN AVAILABLE.

SO IT'S EASIER FOR THE RESIDENTS TO REQUEST THAT ALTERNATIVE STREET DESIGN WITH BECAUSE THOSE STREETS ARE NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE TWO WAY TRAFFIC AND THERE'S A CHANCE TO PUT SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES IN IF YOU CHANGE IT OVER TO ONE WAY AND NOT HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH.

AND THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR OTHER STREETS IN TOWN THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THAT ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC DESIGN THAT WE DID DISCUSS IN OLD CARLSBAD AND DID GET REJECTED BECAUSE RESIDENTS MIGHT LOSE SOME OF THEIR FRONT YARDS AND PROPERTIES.

HOWEVER, WITH AN ALTERNATIVE, THAT WAS IF THEY PUT TWO WAY STREETS IN PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, AND THAT EVERY STREET NEEDS PARKING ON BOTH

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SIDES OR SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.

EVEN SO, IF WE COULD HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE STREET DESIGN, WE COULD HAVE TYLER STREET AND CREST DRIVE SOME OTHER STREETS, BE MORE REASONABLY DESIGNED AND AND FIT THEM IN WITHOUT TAKING UNNECESSARY PROPERTY AND PERHAPS HAVE LESS OBJECTIONS FROM THE RESIDENTS.

I'M ALSO GOING TO SPEAK ON THE GRAND PROMENADE, WHICH ISN'T ON THIS LIST, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE MOVE FORWARD AND BE PUSHED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

IT'S RELATED TO HAVING A CIVIC CENTER AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION AT 1200 CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AND THE POTENTIAL OF A PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE TUNNEL UNDERNEATH THE FREEWAY TO CONNECT THE TWO.

OR AT LEAST START DISCUSSING THAT BECAUSE AS AN ALTERNATIVE, WE COULD USE CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AS WALKING, BUT NOT IN ITS PRESENT DESIGN.

IT'S JUST NOT FRIENDLY.

THERE'S TOO MANY OFF RAMPS AND IF WE WOULD START WORKING ON A DESIGN, WE COULD ASK CALTRANS TO CONSIDER MOVING SOME OF THE FREEWAY ON AND OFF RAMPS TO PICO AND MAKING IT A FRIENDLIER WALKING STREET.

BUT AS WE DELAY AND WE DON'T WANT TO TALK TO CALTRANS, THEY'RE MOVING ALONG WITH THEIR THEIR THEIR LANE DESIGNS AND THEY'RE LEAVING CARLSBAD OUT AND. WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE LEFT OUT.

WE WANT TO HAVE THEM ENGAGE WITH US AND THE CITIZENS A LITTLE MORE.

SO OUR STAFF HAS TO WANT TO ENGAGE WITH THEM.

I'D LIKE TO ALSO MENTION THAT OUR CIVIC CENTER DESIGN SHOULD GET SELECTION, SHOULD GET MOVED FORWARD AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

IT'S COSTING US MORE AND MORE TO DELAY MOVING IT IN MANAGEMENT COSTS AND OTHER FEES.

AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN THE BEST BUDGET PRESENTATION IN MY 20 YEARS OF WATCHING PRESENT THE BUDGETS. SO STAFF DID A GREAT JOB.

WHETHER THE FACILITATOR OF.

THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME, LEN SCHULTY, FOLLOWED BY CHRIS ROSS.

UH. HI.

GOOD MORNING. ON APRIL 20TH, WE SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT HOW CARLSBAD CITIZENS NEED YOUR HELP TO CREATE A MUCH NEEDED AND REAL PONTO PARK.

ON 4/25 I SENT AND WE SENT TO YOU FOUR DATA FILES AND SOME VERY WONDERFUL NEWS THAT A 14.3 ACRES OF PONTO LAND IS AVAILABLE FOR SALE BY A WILLING SELLER THAT WOULD CREATE A WORLD CLASS COASTAL PARK FOR CARLSBAD.

TRULY, WORLD CLASS.

THIS 14.3 ACRE PONTO PARK WOULD HAVE SPECTACULAR OCEAN LAGOON VIEWS PROVIDES DIMENSIONS ADEQUATE TO HOST PROFITABLE COASTAL VIEW WEDDINGS, COMMUNITY AND SPECIAL EVENTS FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND I WOULD BE HAPPY AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHOW AND WALK YOU TO THE SITE SO YOU CAN SEE THE POTENTIAL GREATNESS THAT THIS PARK COULD PROVIDE.

THIS LAND IS AVAILABLE NOW TO PURCHASE, AND THE BEST PART, WE CAN HAVE THIS 14.3 ACRES OF NEW WORLD CLASS CITY PARK LAND AT A 20 TO 40 MINUTE, $40 MILLION TAXPAYER COST SAVINGS COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED PCH RELOCATION PROJECT.

PCH RELOCATION DOES NOT BUY ONE SINGLE SQUARE INCH OF NEW CITY LAND.

IT ONLY CREATES SMALL, ISOLATED, NARROW LAND FRAGMENTS NEXT TO A MAJOR ROADWAY.

WE CAN SAVE TAXPAYERS 20 TO $40 MILLION AND GET 14.3 MORE ACRES OF PARK WITH A BETTER WORLD CLASS VIEWS ON WATERFRONT LAND EXCUSE ME, ON WATERFRONT LAND AND CREATE A MUCH NEEDED COASTAL PARK FOR SOUTH CARLSBAD. SOUTH CARLSBAD THAT HOUSES 62% OF OUR CITIZENS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

AND ALL THIS AT A 50% DISCOUNT RELATIVE TO THE PCH ALTERNATIVE IN PRIOR BUDGET MEETINGS COUNCIL CARLSBAD CITIZENS HAVE OVERWHELMINGLY ASKED FOR THIS PONTO PARK.

YOU COULD CHOOSE TO BUY THIS LAND UNDER PROPOSITION C AS IT HAS QUALIFYING SENSITIVE HABITAT AND REQUIRED CITY TRAILS.

WE ASK YOU TO PUT THIS WORLD CLASS PONTO PARK INTO YOUR CIP AND SAVE TAXPAYERS 20 TO $40 MILLION PEOPLE FOR PONTO CITIZENS ARE HERE TO HELP YOU ADDRESS ANY REVENUE ISSUES.

WE HAVE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY HERE, ONCE IN A LIFETIME, ONCE IN A CAREER OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO TRULY SOMETHING THAT'S GREAT.

AND WORLD CLASS FOR CARLSBAD, PLEASE SEIZE THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.

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YOU WILL BE FOREVER REMEMBERED BASED ON WHAT YOUR DECISION IS.

BE GREAT.

WE CAN BE GREAT.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN.

THAT DOESN'T COME BY OFTEN.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS ROSS, FOLLOWED BY DON CHRISTENSEN.

HI. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS CHRIS ROSS. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BADAGRY LAGOON FOUNDATION.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THE FOUNDATION IS A 501 C NONPROFIT.

WE ARE RUN BY VOLUNTEERS.

THE ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 39 YEARS, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU A HAPPY STORY.

BACK IN 1997, THE FOUNDATION PUT TOGETHER A VISIONARY PLAN FOR A TRAIL SYSTEM AROUND THE LAGOON, AND THAT WE'VE BEEN SLOWLY AND SURELY IMPLEMENTING THAT THROUGH LAND ACQUISITION, BY WORKING WITH PUBLIC AGENCIES TO PUT THE TRAIL SYSTEM, WORKING WITH THE CITY, TO PUT IN DEVELOPER OBLIGATED TRAILS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PUT IN. I'M REALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT ITEM SEVEN ON THE ON THE SLIDE RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS THE EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING PROJECT FROM ARENAL ROAD TO LACOSTE AVENUE.

THIS STUFF, THIS KIND OF STORY IS REALLY KIND OF INVISIBLE, I THINK, TO THE COUNCIL AND TO INTO THE CITY STAFF.

BUT WE HAD WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH THE PROJECT ENGINEER ON THAT PROJECT, BRANDON MILES, WHO WE SHARED WITH HIM THE 1997 PLAN.

THIS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO STEP UP AND SAY, OH, WE SEE WHAT THE VISION WAS.

AND SURE ENOUGH, HE DID.

HE BROUGHT OUR INPUT BACK IN, WHICH REALLY WAS VERY SIMPLE, WAS GOING TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN.

WHY NOT PUT IN A COUPLE OF VIEWING SPOTS? BECAUSE THAT SIDEWALK THAT'S GOING ALONG EL CAMINO REAL RIGHT THERE IS GOING TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, SPECTACULAR VIEW OF THE LAGOON.

AND SURE ENOUGH, HE INCORPORATED THAT.

AND SO I'M HERE REALLY TODAY TO THANK THE CITY FOR MAKING THAT MAKING THAT AVAILABLE TO US AND ESPECIALLY TO RECOGNIZE BRANDON FOR SEIZING AN OPPORTUNITY.

AS I SAY, THAT THE VISION FOR FOR OUR TRAIL SYSTEM IS REALLY TO HAVE A TRAIL THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY FROM ACOSTA TO THE COAST, AND THAT IS CLOSER TO REALITY THAN A LOT OF US THINK. WE WORK IN A DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF IT.

THE LAST SEGMENT THAT THE LAST SPEAKER LANCE WAS MENTIONING, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE THIS LAND THAT'S IN THE AT THE VERY END OF THIS OF THIS COASTAL WILL BE A COASTAL TRAIL.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THE VALUES THE FOUNDATION IS NOT IN FAVOR OF OF STOPPING DEVELOPMENT OR OR ACQUIRING LAND UNNECESSARILY.

BUT THIS LOOKS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT MAY BE WORTH LOOKING AT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

DON CHRISTENSEN FOLLOWED BY CHRIS WRIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, STAFF AND FELLOW CITIZENS.

MY NAME IS DON CHRISTIANSEN.

I LIVE AT 3715 LONGVIEW DRIVE AND I AM A DECENTRALIZED RENEWABLE ENERGY ADVOCATE, 55 PROJECTS, ALL VYING FOR FUNDS.

I WENT THROUGH THEM NOT IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT THE MERKLE RESERVOIR PROJECT FOR ME STANDS OUT BECAUSE OF A VERY SIGNIFICANT THING. IT IS A NON PERFORMING ASSET PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS OF CARLSBAD, OWNED BY THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

A NON-PERFORMING ASSET IS AN ASSET THAT PRODUCES NO INCOME.

SO WE HAVE 50 PLUS ACRES OF PRIMO SOLAR SITED LAND SITTING THERE NOT GENERATING ANY INCOME.

WELL, THIS GOES BACK A NUMBER OF YEARS.

MERKLE RESERVOIR'S BEEN ON THE TO DO LIST FOR YEARS, SO THAT LEADS INTO OPPORTUNITY COST.

OPPORTUNITY COST IS THE PROFIT LOSS WHEN WHEN ALTERNATIVE IS SELECTED OVER ANOTHER, SUCH AS DOING SOMETHING VERSUS NOT DOING SOMETHING, THE CONCEPT IS USEFUL SIMPLY AS A REMINDER TO EXAMINE ALL REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.

SO I WOULD LIKE I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU EXAMINE WHAT I THINK ARE REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES.

LIKE YOU COULD DEVELOP IT, CITY OF CARLSBAD COULD DEVELOP IT, COULD ENTER INTO A JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT, THINK OUR SEAWATER DESALINATION PLANT.

I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF PRIVATE PUBLIC SECTOR PARTNERSHIP.

SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY EVENTUALLY BROUGHT IN THE PUBLIC COMPONENT.

IT COULD SELL IT COULD RENT IT.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS YOU COULD DO WITH IT THAT WOULD GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND PUT LESS EMPHASIS ON THE PERCEIVED NEED TO RAISE TAXES, FOR INSTANCE.

SO YESTERDAY, LOOKING AT OUR LOCAL PAPER SUB HEADLINE, CARLSBAD MALLS REQUIRING ALL ELECTRIC

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CONSTRUCTION. WELL, OKAY, SO THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MORE ELECTRICITY.

SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING TO REQUIRE MORE ELECTRICITY THAT ARE CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE IS GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE IS JOINING OF 78 CORRIDOR CITIES TO OUR CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE.

SO WE WE HAVE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL ELECTRICITY.

THE QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO FILL THAT NEED? ARE WE GOING TO DO BUSINESS AS USUAL, THE UTILITY SCALE MODEL, WHICH, BY THE WAY, A GUARANTEED 10% RETURN ON INVESTMENT, WHETHER INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT OR NOT OR WHETHER IT'S USED OR NOT.

SWEET DEAL. IF YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ALL ARE BETTER SERVED IF WE DECENTRALIZE AND USE OUR ASSETS TO BEST ADVANTAGE.

THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS WRIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'VE COME TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE MONROE WHIRLPOOL TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

AT THE LAST WORKSHOP, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER OF PUBLIC WORKS EXPLAINED THAT THE MONROE POOL WAS NOT ON THE CONTINUED LIST AND IS AWAITING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

APPARENTLY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE POOL HAS BEEN SIDELINED DUE TO THE REGULATIONS NEEDED FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY.

I MAYBE WOULD LIKE SOME MORE EXPLANATION ON THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS SAFETY REGULATIONS OF ANY SAFETY REGULATIONS OF ANY UPGRADE TO THE POOL CAN CERTAINLY BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS.

I'M WORRIED THAT IF THE POOL IS ALLOWED TO DEGRADE FURTHER, THAT THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES.

I REALIZE THAT DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND THE APPROVAL PROCESS TAKES A FEW YEARS, BUT I'VE ALREADY SEEN THE COSTS INCREASE DUE TO INFLATION SINCE THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN JANUARY 2021.

THE DELAY IS COSTING US MORE MONEY, AND A MINOR AND MINOR SURFACE REPAIR DOES NOT ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS. BUT IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE 15 ACRE CAMP SAYING PROPERTY ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE IQUITOS LAGOON HAS JUST BEEN LISTED FOR SALE.

THIS PROPERTY IS THE GATEWAY INTO OUR CITY AND FALLS INTO THE MULTIPLE HABITAT CONSERVATION PROGRAM OR HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER 2004.

SURVEY AFTER SURVEY THAT I HAVE SEEN SHOW THAT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WITH CARLSBAD RESIDENTS IS OUR CONCERN FOR OPEN SPACE.

THIS WAS SHOWN IN THE LAST WORKSHOP ON APRIL 22ND FROM THE CONSULTANT WHO LISTED THE OPEN SPACE AT THE TOP OF THEIR SURVEY AS WELL.

IN 2010, WHEN ENVISION CARLSBAD LISTED OPEN SPACE AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AS ONE OF THE NINE CORE VALUES BY THE RESIDENTS AS A GUIDE FOR THE FUTURE OF CARLSBAD.

I URGE THE CITY TO LOOK INTO THIS PROPERTY TO PROVIDE A MUCH NEEDED PARK FOR THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE CITY, WHICH VISITORS AND RESIDENTS COULD ENJOY.

THIS WOULD BE A WIN WIN FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE SPEAKERS.

I KNOW FOR MYSELF OFTEN, WHETHER I AGREE OR DISAGREE, IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW OTHERS THINK IN SOME OF THE DETAIL.

AND IT MAKES YOUR MIND WONDER SOMETIMES WHAT COULD YOU REALLY DO? YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AROUND ENERGY AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER THOUGHTS.

SO FOR ME THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES YOUR MIND START THINKING ABOUT THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE SOMETIMES SO.

SUMMER. IT'S BACK TO YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE HAD HERE TODAY.

WE WANT, COUNCIL HAS A LOT TO BE THINKING ABOUT AND DETERMINING WHAT YOUR NEXT STEPS ARE.

I WANT TO CLARIFY WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.

SO OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, REALLY OUR GOAL WAS TO IDENTIFY THE ONES THAT ARE RELEVANT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO ADVANCE OR TO GET TO CLOSER TO A COMPLETION OF THOSE PROJECTS.

AND THOSE 55 THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ARE REALLY THE ONES THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THE TABLE TODAY.

ALTHOUGH, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY ANY BEYOND THAT, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TAKE ACTION ON TODAY TO SAY WE'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE TO EITHER ACCELERATE THE TIMELINE, TO POTENTIALLY DECELERATE THE TIMELINE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE REMOVED FROM THE LIST OF 55 OR POTENTIALLY SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ADDED TO THE LIST OF 55, THAT REPORT THAT YOU RECEIVED IN ADVANCE IN THE AGENDA PACKET IS REALLY IDENTIFYING ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

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THESE 55 ARE SCHEDULED.

THEY ARE PREVIOUS COUNCIL DIRECTION THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED TO MOVE THESE FORWARD ON THAT TIMELINE THAT'S IDENTIFIED.

SO NO ACTION WOULD SAY MOVING THOSE FORWARD AS IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE BOARD PACKET OR THE COUNCIL PACKET.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO AGAIN ACCELERATE, DECELERATE A TIMELINE OR REMOVE OR ADD SOMETHING TO THAT LIST, THAT WOULD THEN BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD TAKE BACK TO DETERMINE THE BEST STRATEGIES IN WHICH TO DO THAT AND WOULD BRING THAT BACK TO THE MAY MEETING.

SO AT THIS POINT, WHERE WE'RE AT IS TO IDENTIFY, FIRST HAVE COUNCIL IDENTIFY WHICH OF THOSE 55 PROJECTS OR BEYOND THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS TODAY AND POTENTIALLY TAKE ACTION ON ADJUSTING IN THOSE AREAS.

AGAIN, ADD, REMOVE OR ACCELERATE OR DECELERATE THE TIMELINE.

AND BECAUSE THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST, WE'D LIKE YOU TO IDENTIFY WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMEMBER NORBY AND GO AROUND TO IDENTIFY WHICH PROJECTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO TO DISCUSS WITH THE COUNCIL AND AND TAKE ACTION POTENTIALLY ON.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT FULL LIST AND YOU'VE IDENTIFIED YOUR CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, THEN WE'LL TAKE A SHORT RECESS TO ORDER THOSE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE MOST EFFICIENT DISCUSSION, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CONFLICTS, IF ANY, DO EXIST ON THOSE PROJECTS.

CELIA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST? THANK YOU. NOW, I'D JUST LIKE TO.

IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT PURSUANT TO CALIFORNIA LAW, ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE DISQUALIFIED FROM VOTING ON PROJECTS IN WHICH THEY HAVE A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST, MEANING, AND IDENTIFIED FINANCIAL INTEREST.

AND IN THIS CASE, THE ONE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS PROXIMITY OF PROPERTY TO ONE OF THE PROJECTS.

AND SO THEREFORE THE WAY WE HANDLE THAT IS THE COUNCIL MEMBER IDENTIFIES THE PROJECT, THEN HAS TO LEAVE THE ROOM FOR THE VOTE ON THAT PROJECT AND THEN WE RESUME WHEN THEY'RE INVITED BACK DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINING ITEMS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.

WHICH OF THE PROJECTS, IF ANY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO? I THINK I'LL START OFF BY DISCLOSING THAT I HAVE NO INTEREST OR NO PROXIMITY ISSUES WITH ANY OF THE PROJECTS.

I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH THEM IN ROW POOL, AND ALTHOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PRIORITIZATION ISSUE HERE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THERE, AND I BELIEVE COUNCIL IS WELL INTENTIONED TO PUT THIS ON A FUTURE BALLOT, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF PAYING FOR IT A NUMBER OF YEARS AND IT COULD BE SEVERAL YEARS OFF.

BUT I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT UP.

AND THE REASON I'D LIKE TO MOVE IT UP IS COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.

AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST COLLECTING THE PROJECTS, SO ARGUE FOR IT LATER.

YES. BOOM.

MONROE STREET POOL. GOT YOU.

THANK YOU. THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND TRAFFIC CALMING.

TYLER STREET STUDY.

THERE ARE ABOUT FOUR VILLAGE AND BARRIO LIGHTING PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE DESCRIBED AS PEDESTRIAN OR LIGHTING OR DECORATIVE.

BUT ALL OF THOSE.

THE LAGOON TRAIL.

SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

AND THEN THE TRENCH.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? OKAY. THANK YOU.

THIS IS HARD BECAUSE I WANT TO PICK SO MANY OF THEM, BUT I'LL START WITH AGREEING WITH SOME OF THE THE ITEMS THAT WERE JUST LISTED. DEFINITELY MONROE POOL, UM, AND TYLER STREET AND THE LAGOON TRAIL AND SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY.

IT'S HARD NOT TO ARGUE FOR THEM.

I WANT TO SAY WHY THE.

TO ADD TO THAT THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AT STAGECOACH.

MERKLE SOLAR NEW FIRE STATION SEVEN NEW CITY HALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? YES, THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ECHO A LOT OF THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED SO FAR.

SO, AGAIN, IT WILL BE I'LL GO AND ORDER THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE LISTED AND THEN I'LL FILL IN ANYWHERE ELSE.

SO. MONROE STREET POOL, THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES.

MAYBE I SHOULD SAY.

MAYBE I SHOULD SAY WHICH ONES I CAN LEAVE OFF OF THERE.

SO THAT'S EASIER.

YOU CAN PUT MY INITIALS NEXT TO ALL OF THOSE.

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AND THEN IN TERMS OF ANY OTHER ADDITIONS, I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK HERE TO SEE IF I I'D ADD A COLLEGE BOULEVARD EXTENSION.

AND THEN I DO WANT TO REEMPHASIZE JUST PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS WITH REGARDS TO PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. GREAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BLACKBURN. I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

ALL THE THINGS ON THE LIST ARE GOING TO GET DONE, AND THERE'S A LIST OF THE ORDER THEY'RE GOING TO GET DONE THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO JUGGLE THESE AND MAKE THEM IN A DIFFERENT ORDER THAN STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.

I REQUEST YES.

IS THAT COUNCIL IS IDENTIFYING WHICH PROJECTS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE REORDERED, ADDED OR REMOVED? I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.

THANK YOU. MAYOR HALL? OKAY. UM, THE ONE LIST THAT YOU PUT UP THERE WITH ALL THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, I'M ASSUMING ARE ALL IN THE LIST AND ARE MOVING FORWARD.

THE ONLY ONE I TAKE EXCEPTION TO IS COLLEGE AVE OR THE COLLEGE EXTENSION, WHICH HAS BEEN IN THERE.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S GROWTH INDUCING AND IT NEEDS A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.

AND SO MY CONVERSATION WITH MOST PEOPLE, ONCE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PROJECT IS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTING.

KNOWING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THE MASTER PLANS THAT WERE CREATED OVER THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS ARE NO LONGER VALID EXCEPT FOR ONE.

AND SO THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO GET REZONED AND UP ZONED.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT THINK YOU'RE GOING TO REDUCE TRAFFIC, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE GOING TO ACCELERATE THE THE ADT.

THE OTHER ONE THAT ISN'T MENTIONED BUT IT'S BEEN PART OF OUR GOALS FOR THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS IS THE SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTLINE.

AND THAT, ALONG WITH WHAT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT, IS ALSO BEEN ON THE GOLD LIST FOR 20 PLUS YEARS.

WE EITHER NEED TO SUPPORT IT AND GO FOR IT OR WE JUST NEED TO QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, STAFF KEEPS SPENDING TIME AND TIME AND TIME.

IT'S BEEN IN THE GOALS WE NEED.

WE NEED TO COME TO SOME DECISION ON THAT, OUTSIDE THAT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE MAIN MONROE STREET POOL AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED.

OKAY. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS.

I'M NOT SURE HOW, BUT AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHO OWNS MERKLE RESERVOIR.

MY GUESS THE CITY DOES, AND I THINK THE WATER DEPARTMENT DOES, BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITIES AND NOT TO BE IN COMPETITION, BUT HOW THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH ENERGY TODAY.

SO IT PRESENTS, I THINK, AN OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? THANK YOU. I HAVE TO DISCLOSE.

I WAS JUST GOING TO COME BACK AROUND. YEAH, YEAH.

JUST BEFORE THAT, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR A PARK IN THE PONTO AREA.

AND THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND IT, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS GOING THROUGH AND PRIORITIZING PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THIS VERY BIG LIST.

AND WE IT SOUNDS LIKE NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF HERE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO PICK OUT THE ONES THAT COULD BE MOVED AHEAD MORE QUICKLY.

AND AS FOR PROPERTY FOR SALE IN THAT AREA, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A PARK.

I THINK MORE RESEARCH WOULD NEED TO BE DONE, BUT NOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THIS PROCESS IS PRIORITIZING WHAT ALREADY IS IN OUR PACKET, IN OUR AGENDA PACKET.

JUST CONFIRMING THAT.

THAT IS RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT, YEAH.

THANK YOU. I GOT NODS FROM CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER AND OUR FACILITATOR.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT'S NOT ON OR OFF THE TABLE.

IT'S JUST NOT BEING DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST TO IDENTIFY? OH, YES. NUMBER ONE, THE VERY FIRST ONE, LACOSTE AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS.

SORRY. OH, NO, NOTHING ON THE NEW LIST.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? YES. JUST TO CLARIFY, FROM WHAT I HAD UNDERSTOOD, THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS TO PUT THINGS ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION, TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD WANT TO DECELERATE OR ACCELERATE ANY OF THEM.

SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE A FEW OF THE ONES THAT I'VE PUT ON THERE, IT'S MORE FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT, NOT NECESSARILY TO SAY LET'S GO FULL SPEED AHEAD. SO I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THAT FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.

YES. AND THE INTENTION THAT IF AFTER DISCUSSION, IF THERE IS ACTION TO BE TAKEN, THAT THAT BE IDENTIFIED AND OBVIOUSLY MOTIONS MADE AND WHATNOT TO DETERMINE WHAT ACTION YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

YES, THANKS.

AND NO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST?

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NO THANKS.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKBURN.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ON THAT LIST.

JUST ON THE MAIN LIST. GREAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR HALL.

OKAY, TYLER.

TYLER STREET VILLAGE DECORATIVE LIGHTING.

I'M ASSUMING I'M PART OF THAT VILLAGE, BARRIO CIRCLES, CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AND GRAND AVENUE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, VILLAGE INTELLIGENT PARKING, BARRIO STREET LIGHTING, CHESTNUT COMPLETE STREET, I-5 TO RAILROAD. SO IN THE LOWERING OF THE TRACKS.

OKAY SO THESE, MAYOR HALL, DO I HAVE THESE ACCURATE? TYLER STREET STUDY VILLAGE AND BARRIO LIGHTING DECORATIVE RAILROAD TRENCH COLLEGE BOULEVARD EXTENSION OF THIS LIST? NO, NO, NOT CARLSBAD.

I WAS JUST I LOOK AT THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE COVERED BY A DEVELOPER.

AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE TAKING THAT UPON OURSELVES TO BUILD AT A COST TO THE CITIZENS AND IT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY GROWTH INDUCING.

I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT OF DOING THAT.

SO OK.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.

I WAS MISSING ONE GREAT OK.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE JUST A FIVE MINUTE BREAK TO ORGANIZE THIS AND MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THROUGH IT AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND ASK THE MAYOR TO LEAVE, LIKELY FOR THE STARTER OF THE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

5 MINUTES.

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OKAY. SO IN JUST A MINUTE, WE'RE GOING TO ASK MAYOR HALL TO EXIT AND WE'LL START WITH THE FOR THAT HE HAS A CONFLICT ON AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE OTHERS.

I DO WANT TO JUST ALERT THE COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE 30 MINUTES IN THIS MEETING TO IDENTIFY ACTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE. AND ON THESE, JUST TO REITERATE AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, ALL 13 THAT ARE REIDENTIFIED HERE.

ALL OF THESE ARE SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW WITH CURRENT STAFF.

WE HAVE TO BE MOVING FORWARD IN SOME WAY IN THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO THESE ALL ARE MOVING FORWARD BASED ON PRIOR COUNCIL DIRECTION.

THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS IS CLARITY OF DIRECTION.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DECELERATED BECAUSE IT'S LESS OF A PRIORITY NOW, WHICH POTENTIALLY MEANS IT FREES UP RESOURCES FOR OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE

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ACCELERATED. IF THERE IS SOMETHING ON THIS LIST OR REMOVED, IF THERE IS SOMETHING ON THIS LIST THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ACCELERATED.

WHAT THE STAFF WILL BE DOING AFTER THIS MEETING, BEFORE THE BUDGET MEETING IS DETERMINING THEN WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DECELERATED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, OR WHAT RESOURCES WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED AKA STAFF IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE THOSE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THOSE AND THAT AS WE GO THROUGH, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A SPECIFIC MOTION ON THAT WE MOVE TOWARDS THAT AND SEE WHERE WHERE THE COUNCIL IS AT.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER NORBY? YEAH. JUST FOR I THINK OUR MAYOR IS THE ONE WHO HAS PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE THAT ARE ON THE LIST.

AND I WONDER IF IT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA TO DO JUST THAT, JUST TO DEAL WITH THE MAYOR'S CONFLICT ISSUES AS HE LEAVES THE ROOMS AND THEN MAKE A MOTION ON THOSE ISSUES AND THEN COME BACK.

AND I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO OTHERS OR NONE.

AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER CONFLICT.

NO OTHER CONFLICTS, JUST THAT ONE.

YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO START THERE AS MAYOR HALL.

WE WILL SEE YOU IN A BIT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I'M GOING TO DISCLOSE THE NATURE OF HIS CONFLICT FOR HIS BENEFIT, AND THAT IS BASED ON PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IN THE IN THE AREA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AS MAYOR HALL HAS LEFT THE ROOM, WE WILL START.

WHICH. YEAH.

WITH ANY OF THE THREE OF YOU THAT IDENTIFIED THIS, I TRY TO PUT YOUR INITIALS HERE SO WE KNOW HOW TO COME BACK TO IT MORE EFFICIENTLY.

BUT WE'LL START WITH THE TYLER STREET STUDY.

AND IF THERE'S AN ACTION YOU'D LIKE TO SEE TAKEN THAT YOU IDENTIFY THAT NOW, PLEASE, COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.

YES. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO OUR STAFF YESTERDAY AND TODAY ON THE FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED OR WERE NOTIFIED THAT WE WERE GOING TO RECEIVE $5 MILLION.

AND THEY WERE FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND FOR PEDESTRIAN LIGHTINGS IN THE BARRIO.

AND THAT I WAS TOLD THAT THOSE MONIES ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET ITEMS THAT WE GOT.

SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION ON TOP OF WHAT'S ON THE PAPERS TO GET THOSE DONE.

SO I'D LIKE TO BASICALLY JUST THEY'RE SUPER IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I LOVE THE FACT AS I DRIVE DOWN THE COAST AND I SEE NEW PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS AND NEW SAFETY ISSUES GOING ON IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, I'D LIKE TO GROUP ALL OF THOSE AT TYLER STREET AND THE LIGHTING, BOTH VILLAGE AND BARRIO, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND JUST MAKE A MOTION, I GUESS, THAT WE WE MOVE THOSE UP AND GET THEM COMPLETED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, JUST KIND OF MOVE THEM UP THE PRIORITY LIST.

AND I THINK THAT ONLY LEAVES THE TRENCH PROJECT THAT THE MAYOR HAD A CONFLICT WITH.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK WITH THAT, FOR ME, I REALIZE IT'S GOING TO BE A HALF A BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 300 AND 600 MILLION, AND THAT CARLSBAD WOULD BE A CONTRIBUTOR AT A VERY LIGHT LEVEL TO THAT.

SO THERE SHOULD BE NO EXPECTATION THAT CARLSBAD IS GOING TO SPEND 400 MILLION TO BUILD A TRENCH, BUT SOME NUMBER WITH WITH TENS OF MILLIONS BEHIND IT, PROBABLY.

BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WHAT I'D LIKE TO PUSH FORWARD IS JUST TO GIVE OUR STAFF DIRECTION IF THERE'S A CHANCE TO MOVE A TECHNICAL STUDY FORWARD, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS SANDAG WILL SAY, WELL, IT'S A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR STUDY, BUT WE HAVE TO GO OUT NEXT GRANT CYCLE AND LOOK FOR A MILLION OR TWO FOR IT.

BUT IF WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD WITH SOME OF OUR OWN FUNDS TO ASSIST IN THESE TECHNICAL STUDIES SO WE CAN GET THEM DONE SOONER, WHICH MEANS THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND LOOK FOR MONEY FOR THE PROJECT SOONER.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUPPORT.

SO I WOULD WANT TO MOVE THAT PORTION UP IN TERMS OF MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO DO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN IN TERMS OF STUDIES OR TECHNICAL STUDIES THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE MAKING TWO MOTIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? THE FIRST MOTION IS TO TAKE THESE THREE PROJECTS AND ASK STAFF, IDENTIFY HOW.

ACCELERATE THOSE.

AND SO IF WE TAKE THOSE ONE AT A TIME, YOU'RE WELCOME TO TAKE THE CONGLOMERATE AND SEE WHERE YOU GET.

SO WHAT'S THAT? SO MOVED.

IF I CAN ECHO THE MOTION.

THIS IS TO ACCELERATE TYLER STREET, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND ALL OF THE LIGHTING PROJECTS.

IS THAT CORRECT? I'M GOING TO SECOND IT BECAUSE I THINK MOST OR AT LEAST HALF OF THESE ARE ALREADY ON THE TOP OF THE LIST ANYWAY.

SO YOU'RE REALLY NOT CHANGING IT.

SOME OF THESE YOU'RE NOT ACCELERATING THEM.

YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR THEM TO BE LOOKED AT AS A LUMP AND USE THIS EXTRA MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT.

I'LL SECOND ON THAT CONDITION.

IT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED, CONSISTENT.

WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A QUESTION OR THESE MOTIONS, DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT OR YOU WANT ME TO HANDLE IT? JUST SO WE'RE NOT STEPPING ON EACH OTHER'S TOES? IT'S ALL YOURS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SECOND IS COMMENTING?

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YES. YES. ABOUT THIS ITEM.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY ON SOMEWHAT OF THE FAST TRACK, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE THING IS, FOR ME, I WAS PULLING OUT THINGS ALL OVER THE CITY.

THESE ARE ALL IN D-1.

THESE ARE. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING EQUITABLE ABOUT WHERE WE'RE DOING THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PULLING OUT SOMETHING AND MAYBE SACRIFICING A PROJECT IN ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY.

THE REASON THAT THEY'RE PULLED OUT IS THAT THE MAYOR HAS A CONTRACT.

NO, I MEAN, IN YOUR MOTION THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE PULLING THESE THREE OUT TO BE OF ALL OF THESE TO BE LOOKED AT AND PRIORITIZED.

SO I'M JUST SAYING, YOU GET MY POINT, RIGHT, ABOUT DISTRICT ONE GETTING ALL THE LOVE VERSUS OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

AND AND YET, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THESE ARE ALREADY KIND OF ON THE ACCELERATION PATH.

AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE BEING MONITORED AND HAND HELD TO THE FINISH LINE.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA.

SO I THINK WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT 41 PROJECTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT THE MAYOR HAS A CONFLICT WITH IN TERMS OF HIS LAND OWNERSHIP.

AND THEN AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THIS PROCESS, WITH THOSE PROJECTS, WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE REST.

I UNDERSTAND. NO, I GET THAT.

FOR THOSE AS WELL AS THEY COME UP, WE DO THAT.

I GET THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST TIME, IS THAT I RECUSED MYSELF FOR MY AREA AND THE MAYOR RECUSED HIMSELF.

I'M ONLY JUST POINTING OUT THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE THE LOVE AROUND THE CITY AND THAT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE NOT JUST PRIORITIZING THOSE D-1 PROJECTS.

RIGHT. AND MANY OF THEM ARE CLOSE IN TERMS OF FUNDING AND MANY OF THEM ARE CLOSE IN TERMS OF TIMING.

BUT THE CHANGE ELEMENT IS WE'VE RECEIVED ANOTHER $5 MILLION WITH THE FUNDING.

THAT'S NOT REFLECTED. SO I JUST WANT TO PUSH THEM AND GET THEM CONSTRUCTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? COMMENT? SURE. THANK YOU.

AND ACTUALLY HOPE MAYBE IT'LL ADDRESS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS HOPING TO HAVE DISCUSSED MORE HOLISTICALLY, BUT FOR ME, I KNOW I MENTIONED EARLIER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS IMPORTANT WAS WITH REGARDS TO THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH INCORPORATES PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, MULTIMODAL LEVELS OF TRANSIT.

AND SO A LOT OF THESE FALL WITHIN THAT, WHETHER IT'S THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND TRAFFIC CALMING OR THE TYLER STREET STUDY AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMPLETE STREET PROJECTS. ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT AND I'D LOVE TO MAYBE ADD STAFF ON THAT, IS THAT IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT ARE THE COMPLETE STREETS OR PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, IF WE SAID THAT THOSE WERE FROM COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE, THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO PRIORITIZE, WOULD THAT BE TOO MANY PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE PRIORITIZED OVER THE OTHERS? OR IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD PRIORITIZE THOSE SO THAT MANY OF THE COMPLETE STREETS COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT INITIAL PLANNING STAGE? BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER DISTRICTS? AND I CAN DEFINITELY SPEAK FROM DISTRICT THREE'S PERSPECTIVE THAT THERE ARE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO INCLUDE COMPLETE STREETS PROJECTS.

AND SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

YES, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WE ARE, AS A MATTER OF COURSE, WHENEVER WE ARE LOOKING AT ANY STREET MAINTENANCE OR IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, WE DO INTEGRATE COMPLETE STREETS INTO THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS.

THEY MIGHT NOT BE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT LIKE VALLEY AND MAGNOLIA, COMPLETE STREETS, BUT WE DO DO THAT AS A MATTER OF COURSE.

GREAT. SO I THINK THE REASON WHY I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE AROUND.

SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO POTENTIALLY PRIORITIZE THESE THREE RIGHT HERE.

THE QUESTION FROM MY COLLEAGUE WAS BROUGHT UP, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER DISTRICTS, WHICH IS ALSO A QUESTION THAT I ALSO HAVE IN TERMS OF MANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD PRIORITIZE? AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO PRIORITIZE MORE HOLISTICALLY, MORE COMPREHENSIVELY, SO THAT IT IS MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE LIFT, NOT JUST PIECEMEAL IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOLISTICALLY.

WOULD THAT BE THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION OR WOULD WE THEN WANT TO PICK OUT EVERY SINGLE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT? THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE.

IF I COULD, I THINK MAYBE CLARIFY THIS IS COUNCILMEMBER NORBY IS NOT LIMITED TO MAKING JUST THIS ONE MOTION ON THESE ITEMS. HE'S CHOSEN TO GO FIRST WITH THESE ITEMS BECAUSE THE MAYOR IS OUT OF THE ROOM, BUT HE MAY VERY WELL MAKE MOTIONS ON TEN MORE OF THE REMAINING ITEMS, AND SO CAN ALL OF YOU.

SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THIS IS EXHAUSTIVELY RELATED TO THIS.

ALSO, YOU MAY MAKE A LOT OF MOTIONS TO ACCELERATE SEVERAL OF THE PROJECTS.

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WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME SORT OF PROPOSED WAY TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU MAKE 50 PROJECTS, A PRIORITY WILL BE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE 55 PROJECTS THAT ARE PRIORITY.

ACTUALLY, WE HAVE WAY MORE THAN THAT. BUT SO SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ARE THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT TO CALL OUT FOR ACCELERATION, DECELERATION, ADDITION OR SUBTRACTION. WE'RE JUST STARTING WITH THESE BECAUSE OF THE MAYOR'S CONFLICT.

NO, I HELP I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

I THINK WHAT I AND I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PRIORITIZING 50 DIFFERENT PROJECTS; RIGHT? OR 20 DIFFERENT PROJECTS, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD BE CONFUSING IN TERMS OF DIRECTION.

SO I WAS TRYING TO DO IS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IS THERE A WAY THAT IF WE SAID, HEY, LET'S JUST SAY I'M GOING TO USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS IS NOT OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT'S POTENTIALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THESE PARTICULAR ROAD SEGMENTS IN THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

BUT LET'S JUST SAY IF I SAID AVENIDA ENCINAS AND PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES, THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, TYLER STREET, THOSE WERE ALL PART OF THAT SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.

IF I SAID THAT I WANTED TO PRIORITIZE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, WOULD THAT TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING THAT COMES UNDER THAT? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

SO I THINK FOR THE PURPOSES OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS BEING EITHER PART OF THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN THAT WE HAVE CALLED OUT, THE SUSTAINABILITY EXCUSE ME, SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION THAT WE'RE INITIATING WILL INCLUDE THE ONES THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN MENTIONED AND THEN OTHERS AS WELL.

SO JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY'RE BEING ADDRESSED SEPARATELY, UNLESS WE CALL THEM OUT AS A SPECIFIC CIP PROJECT.

SO, YES, THEY CAN BE GROUPED TOGETHER, I THINK, WHICH IS WHAT COUNCILMEMBER NORBY HAS DONE IN AND THE ONES THAT HE HAD CALLED OUT.

BUT IF YOU WISH TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THEM AND BRING THEM FORWARD AS SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN PRIORITIES, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

OKAY, GREAT. YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M DEFINITELY, I'LL SAY THAT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION.

I JUST WANTED TO ALSO REITERATE THE FACT THAT MANY OF THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS OR ANY OF THE OTHER SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN REGARDING IMPROVEMENTS THAT I'D WANT TO SEE WOULD BE MORE COMPREHENSIVE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT, AND I DO AGREE WITH MOVING THESE PARTICULAR ONES ALONG BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HEARD THIS SINCE I CAME ON BOARD IN 2019, 2018, 2019. SO I THINK DEFINITELY I'D BE HAPPY TO MOVE THESE ALONG AS LONG AS WE'RE AGAIN LOOKING AT IT COMPREHENSIVELY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

MAY I JUST ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VILLAGE DECORATIVE LIGHTING, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE 2019 LIGHTING STUDY AND ALL, I BELIEVE SEVEN PHASES OF IT TO BE COMPLETED? OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT PERHAPS PRIORITIZING WHAT WAS LISTED ON OUR LIST? AND SO THERE WAS A [INAUDIBLE] STATE STREET LIGHTING, THERE WAS BARRIO LIGHTING AND THEN THERE WAS VILLAGE DECORATIVE.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S AN EXTENSIVE LIST.

YES, SIR. AND A LONG LIST.

SO JUST THAT WE WE DON'T ACCOMPLISH IT IN TOTALITY, BUT THAT WE PRIORITIZE IT.

WE MOVE IT FORWARD WITH RESPECT TO THAT ONE PARTICULAR ONE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL STREETS INVOLVED.

AND YES, IT'S A LONG LIST.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

TAKE A VOTE.

. THE LAST ONE WOULD BE THE RAIL IF I COULD JUST TAKE A SHOT AT THAT REAL QUICK.

I DON'T LIKE THE RAIL BEING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO THE TUNE OF 400 OR 600 MILLION.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE.

AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ADJUST THAT IN TERMS OF A COUNCIL CIP OR A GOAL IS TO ADJUST THAT TO PARTICIPATE WITH STATE AND REGIONAL AGENCIES FOR A TRENCH PROJECT AND TO PRIORITIZE TECHNICAL STUDIES NEEDED IN PREPARATION OF THAT PROJECT.

IT'S NOT OUR PROJECT.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? I'D LIKE TO GET STAFF INPUT ON THAT, PLEASE.

IN PARTICULAR, WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WITH REGARDS TO THE TECHNICAL STUDIES WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT IS THAT WE HAD FUNDED AS A CITY THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS OF THE SHORT TRENCH VERSUS THE LONG TRENCH, AND THAT HAS BEEN MOVED FORWARD.

SANDAG IS IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING.

SO IF THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WITH REGARDS TO PARTNERING WITH SANDAG TO SEE ABOUT GETTING THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO

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PROPOSE AN APPROXIMATE COST FOR THAT LEVEL OF EFFORT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

I THINK THE STUDIES THAT ARE COMING, ONE WOULD BE ENVIRONMENTAL, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN PROBABLY A 30% ENGINEERING.

YES, A 60% AND THEN A COMPREHENSIVE 90, 95% AND THEN WORKING DRAWINGS.

AND SO WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO.

AND SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT THAT SHOULD BE OUR GOAL AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING A $600 MILLION PROJECT, IS TO WORK WITH THESE AGENCIES AND AND TO CONTRIBUTE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE COST OF THESE STUDIES TO MOVE THEM FORWARD SO WE CAN GET THEM DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

IS THERE A PARTICULAR AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO? THERE IS NOT. AND SO AS THEY COME FORWARD AND THERE'S A FUNDING DEFICIENCY THAT THE STAFFS WOULD WORK TOGETHER.

BUT NO, IT'S A PRIORITY THAT CARLSBAD PARTICIPATES IN MOVING THIS FORWARD.

GOT IT. YES, SIR.

WE CAN DO THAT. WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO WORD THAT THAT IS MANAGEABLE FOR FOR STAFF? SO I HAVE SOMETHING TO SECOND THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.

I THINK COUNCILMEMBER NORBY DID A GOOD JOB OF CAPTURING THAT, SIR.

OKAY. THEN I'LL SECOND.

HAVE STAFF PRIORITIZE.

THEN I'LL SECOND LOOKING FOR THE NEXT STEP.

CAN I JUST CONFIRM THE MOTION? IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE IF I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. SO WHAT I HAVE HERE IS THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR CARLSBAD STAFF TO WORK WITH THE OTHER REGIONAL STAFFS TO PRIORITIZE THIS PROJECT AND MOVE IT FORWARD.

THE PROJECT STUDIES WE REMOVE THE PROJECT AS A CIP LIST IN TERMS OF THE 400 MILLION OR $600 MILLION PROJECT.

SO WE IDENTIFY A DIFFERENT DOLLAR AMOUNT.

THAT'S FOR THE STUDY PORTION? RIGHT. WE WILL IDENTIFY IT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING.

CELIA, IS THAT CLEAR? OKAY, SO ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES.

COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA? NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION AS A COMMENT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR THAT HAS BEEN SECONDED.

I THINK ALSO MAYBE AS PART OF THAT, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING TO THE REGIONAL PARTNERS, TO TALKING TO SANDAG AND THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, TALKING TO OUR LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT SEEKING THAT FUNDING AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CURRENTLY EXPLICITLY IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS IF WE'RE GOING TO GET MATCHING FUNDING.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO PUSH FOR THAT AMENDMENT.

OKAY, GREAT. A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

WHAT'S THE SECOND? SECOND ON THAT IS SECOND STANCE.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.

ARE YOU READY FOR A VOTE? YES.. THANK YOU. COULD SOMEONE PLEASE GRAB MAYOR HALL? OKAY. AS HE COMES BACK INTO THE ROOM, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO MONROE STREET POOL REPLACEMENT.

SO IF ONE OF YOU WANTS TO GET YOUR MOTION READY TILL HE'S HERE.

BUT YEAH.

DO YOU HAVE IT? YOU'RE ALL READY TO GO.

WELCOME BACK, MAYOR HALL.

WE ARE ON TO THE MONROE STREET POOL REPLACEMENT, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS THAT MIGHT EXIST ON THAT ONE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKBURN? I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT [INAUDIBLE] NEEDS TO GET DONE.

I ASKED OUR STAFF, HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET THIS DONE? BECAUSE 2026 SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN AWFUL LONG WAYS OUT THERE.

SO 2026 IS ACTUALLY A REASONABLE TIMELINE FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO GET A LARGE PROJECT LIKE THIS THROUGH.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR IT TO BE SPEEDED UP BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT JUST SIMPLY CAN'T BE SPEEDED UP.

BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK IS THAT WE DEDICATE SOME FUNDS TO GETTING THE POOL AT LEAST A FOUR YEAR, ENOUGH OF A RENOVATION TO GET US THROUGH FOUR YEARS.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO IT'S GOING TO ALL BE TORN DOWN BY 2026 ANYWAY, OR 25 WHENEVER WE'RE GOING TO START THE CONSTRUCTION.

BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT LACKING.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO SPEND THE FUNDS TO AT LEAST GET IT TO A VERY USABLE CONDITION.

SO IF I COULD REINTERPRET YOUR MOTION AS BEING ONE TO ADD AN ITEM AND BRING BACK AN ITEM NEXT TIME WE COME TO YOU FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE MAINTENANCE ALONE OF THE MONROE STREET POOL, WOULD THAT ACCURATELY REFLECT IT? YES. IN EXCHANGE FOR TRYING TO SPEED IT UP, BECAUSE WE CAN'T SPEED UP THE TIMELINE.

AND I'M UNDERSTANDING I'M CORRECT THAT WE CAN'T REALLY SPEED IT UP, THAT CERTAIN THINGS JUST TAKE TIME.

YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT.

FOR THE OPTION THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED US.

THAT IS CORRECT, YES, SIR.

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OKAY. SO THANK YOU, CELIA.

MY MOTION WILL BE THAT STAFF BRING BACK TO US IN A TIMELY MANNER SOME TYPE OF A TEMPORARY BAND-AID OR MAINTENANCE REPAIRS THAT'LL GET US THROUGH 2026 AND KEEPING THE POOL WORKABLE.

OKAY. CAN WE TAKE A SECOND ON THAT AND THEN COMMENT THE SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL? SURE. JUST FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION FIRST.

SO QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.

SPECIFICALLY, IF THOSE PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE, WHERE IS THAT FUNDING COMING FROM? AND THEN ALSO, CAN THOSE PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENTS BE UTILIZED FOR IF IT IS TO BE VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD, CAN THOSE BE UTILIZED FOR THAT PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENT MOVING FORWARD? SO I THINK YOUR YOUR QUESTION IS WITH REGARDS TO IF WE WERE TO INVEST IN ADDITIONAL REPAIRS AND RENOVATIONS, COULD WE USE THAT FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE FOLLOW ON? NO. THE ACTUAL SCOPE OF WORK OF THE NEW RENOVATION EXPANDS IT FURTHER.

SO DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, WE ALREADY HAVE SPENT SOME SOME FUNDING ON THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND BRING FORTH, BASED ON THE MOTION THAT MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN HAD BROUGHT ON BOARD.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING THE SIZE OF THE POOL, FOR EXAMPLE, SO THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED.

SO DO WE ALREADY HAVE FUNDING EARMARKED FOR THOSE PARTICULAR IMPROVEMENTS THEN THAT HE'S MAKING A MOTION FOR? COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I COULD JUST PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION.

SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, WHEN THE PRESIDENT BROUGHT FORWARD A LIST THAT WAS DOCUMENTING PHOTOS, THEY WERE LARGELY COSMETIC.

WE DID HAVE A RISK MANAGEMENT OR ATTENDED THE POOL, IDENTIFY IF THERE WERE ANY SAFETY ISSUES.

NO SAFETY ISSUES EXISTS AND STAFF CONTINUED TO MAKE THOSE COSMETIC MODIFICATIONS.

WE ARE DOING IT AND OPERATING IT WITHIN BUDGET.

SO ALTHOUGH I CAN APPRECIATE THAT THE MOTION THAT'S BEING MADE AT THIS TIME, THE VAST MAJORITY OF ACTIVITIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE.

AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE.

SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR THAT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO, MR. BLACKBURN, DO YOU STILL WANT YOUR MOTION ON THE TABLE? I WANT TO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS KEEPING THINGS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST AND A PRIORITY WITH STAFF.

HONESTLY, I WAS A LITTLE EMBARRASSED BY SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD, WHETHER THEY WERE EXAGGERATED PICTURES OR JUST THE FEW PICTURES THAT ARE BAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GREAT.

MY REQUEST IS THAT WE KEEP THE MONROE POOL AS A PRIORITY, KEEPING IT UP AND KEEPING IT PRESENTABLE UNTIL THE TIME WE TEAR IT APART TO BUILD THE NEW ONE. SO WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO MAKING SURE THAT IT IS A PRIORITY? WE CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE IT AND THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR STAFF IS ALREADY MAKING SURE THAT IT IS BEING KEPT AND THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE OR AT LEAST A MAJORITY OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD ARE BEING ADDRESSED.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE YOUR MOTION FOR PRIORITIZING IT? YEAH, I'M NOT GOOD.

PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 2026 DATE, THAT CAN'T BE CHANGED.

BUT I AM GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE DO PRIORITIZE KEEPING IT UP, GETTING AND IF WE NEED TO TRANSFER FUNDS, THEN CITY STAFF BRING TO US HOW MUCH WE NEED AND WHERE IT NEEDS TO COME FROM.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY YEARS, FOUR YEARS THAT THE POOL IS MAINTAINED AND THAT THAT COMES AS A CITY COUNCIL PRIORITY, THAT THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED. SURE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE IF THERE'S NOT FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION THEN TO BE NOT A SEPARATE MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT COMES BACK TO YOU FOR IN THE CIP, BUT AN EXISTING PRIORITIZATION WITHIN OUR EXISTING BUDGET. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YEAH.

THANK YOU. MAYOR HALL.

DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? SO WE'RE NOW DOWN TO JUST THIS AS A PRIORITIZATION, THERE IS NO FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT? IT SOUNDS AS PART OF.

ADDITIONAL FUNDING? CORRECT. OKAY. YOU HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

. THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE LIST.

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. HAVE WE MADE A MOTION TO GO OUT FOR THE FUNDING ON MONROE POOL? WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.

DO WE NOT? TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS, WON'T THIS BE A PROP H VOTE? THIS WILL BE A PROP H VOTE, SIR.

HOWEVER, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES OR THE PRIORITIZATION OR DEPRIORITIZATION OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE LIST.

COUNCIL. WE WILL BE BRINGING MONROE POOL BACK TO YOU IN, I BELIEVE, JUNE TIMEFRAME, AND THAT'S WHERE COUNCIL WOULD END UP TAKING THAT OR DIRECTING

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STAFF TO PLACE IT ON A FUTURE BALLOT.

BUT THAT WILL BE COMING BACK IN JUNE.

SO JUST SPEAKING IN GENERAL, IN DOING PASS BALLOT MEASURES, I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST WE PUT MORE THAN ONE ITEM ON, AS YOU KNOW, WITH A BALLOT MEASURE, IT'S OFTEN WHEN YOU JUST PUT ONE, EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT THINK THERE'S STRONG SUPPORT, THERE MIGHT BE OTHERS WHO DO NOT THINK SO. BUT IF YOU HAVE SEVERAL GREAT THINGS ON FOR [INAUDIBLE] VOTE, I THINK WE STAND A BETTER CHANCE.

WE'LL SPEAK TO THAT LATER.

MAYOR HALL, ONCE WE HAVE ALL OF THESE IDENTIFIED, IT WILL COME BACK AS A FULL RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT WOULD GO ON THE BALLOT FOR PROP H.

SO IT MAY NOT JUST BE MONROE STREET POOL.

IT'S 1:55. I KNOW.

THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION FOR YOU ALL.

IN THE LAST 5 MINUTES, WE HAVE EIGHT MORE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE ASKED TO TAKE ACTION ON.

SO WE CAN EITHER PAUSE HERE, CLOSE THE MEETING UP, OR WE CAN EXTEND YOUR 2:00 START TIME TILL ABOUT 2:15 START TIME TO TRY TO MOVE THROUGH THESE.

I THOUGHT WE HAD A HARD STARTED AT 2:00? WE DO HAVE EVERYONE PRESENT FOR THE NEXT MEETING THAT'LL START AT 2:00.

IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO GO AHEAD AND EXTEND THAT FOR AN ADDITIONAL 15 MINUTES.

AGAIN, IF WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE AND DEPRIORITIZE.

IF NOT, WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY A CLOSED SESSION THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR MAY 3RD.

AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS ACTUALLY ADD A AN ADDITIONAL MEETING.

AND THIS WOULD BE PART THREE OF OUR PRIORITIZATION EXERCISE, AND THAT COULD OCCUR ON THE THIRD.

I WOULD SUGGEST WE GO TO THIRD.

I DO NOT WANT TO RUSH AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEAR EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS AND VOICE.

SO I WOULD MOVE THAT WE MOVE THIS TO THE THIRD.

SECOND. OKAY, COUNCILMAN.

OH, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? THANK YOU. I'M WAITING FOR THE REVERB TO START.

SO THAT WOULD BE DONE IN A CLOSED SESSION NO, WE CURRENTLY HAVE CLOSED SESSION ON CALENDAR FOR THE THIRD.

THIS WOULD BE AN OPEN SESSION DISCUSSION.

IT'S JUST I'M, COUNCIL WILL ALREADY BE THERE.

WHAT WE CAN DO IS PROBABLY NOTICE AND IT WOULD BE AN OPEN SESSION DISCUSSION ITEM.

YOU READY FOR VOTE? . PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THEN WE'VE HEARD WHERE THIS IS TO BE CONTINUED TO.

SO WITH THAT, THEN I WOULD ADJOURN THE MEETING.

UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR COMING OUT AND SHARING YOUR VOICE AND CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS WITH THE COUNCIL.

I THINK IT REALLY ADVANCES THE CONVERSATION AND UNTIL MAY 3RD.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.