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BE SEATED. I'D LIKE TO CALL TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
IT'S OUR REGULAR MEETING ON MAY 10TH.AND WITH THAT, CAN WE PLEASE START WITH ROLL CALL? COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.
HERE. COUNCILMEMBER BHAT-PATEL.
HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN.
HERE. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL FIVE MEMBERS ARE PRESENT AND COULD WE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE AND MR. BLACKBURN WILL LEAD US.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY. MS. BREWER, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OUT IN CLOSED SESSION? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REPORTABLE ACTION THIS EVENING.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE NEXT WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING HELD APRIL 5TH MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING HELD APRIL 19TH.
MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING HELD MAY 3RD.
MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES RECITED BY THE MAYOR.
LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT THE MINUTES PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
[PRESENTATIONS]
MOVING RIGHT ALONG FOR PRESENTATIONS.THE FIRST IS A PROCLAMATION AND RECOGNITION OF WATER SAFETY MONTH.
AND MR. BLACKBURN, LEAD US OFF, PLEASE.
OKAY. I GET TO INVITE DREW TO THE PODIUM.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR WATER SAFETY MONTH.
IT SAYS MAY IS NATIONAL AQUATICS MONTH WITH A FOCUS ON WATER SAFETY AND SWIMMING AND AQUATIC RELATED ACTIVITIES PLAY A ROLE IN HELPING PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN GOOD PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ALL PEOPLE.
IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, DROWNING, EXCUSE ME.
THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL, WE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2022 AS WATER SAFETY MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND INVITE DREW TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
MY NAME IS DREW FRANCIS. I'M THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LIFEGUARD LIEUTENANT AND ACCOMPANIED BY OUR RECREATION MANAGER, ASHLEY BENSON, AND SENIOR LIFEGUARDS TROY BEVERIDGE AND VICKY KLINE. AS AQUATIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, WE'RE ALL TOO FAMILIAR WITH THE NEED TO INCREASE COMMUNITY AWARENESS AND PUBLIC EDUCATION REGARDING DROWNING PREVENTION.
CERTAIN MINORITY GROUPS CAN BE AT RISK THREE AND A HALF TIMES HIGHER THAN THEIR WHITE COUNTERPARTS.
VISITS AND 400 DEATHS OF DROWNING IN CALIFORNIA.
MOST EXPERTS AGREE THAT THE DATA IS GROSSLY UNDERREPORTED.
THERE'S A TRUE NEED FOR INCREASED AWARENESS AND EDUCATION.
THEY'RE THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE AND EDUCATION IN OUR COMMUNITY OF PREVENTING DROWNING, TRAGIC EVENTS IN OUR LOCAL BEACHES LED TO THE CREATION OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT BEACH LIFEGUARD PROGRAM IN 2017.
THE NUMBER OF VISITORS AND DEMAND FOR BOTH OF OUR SERVICES WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO GROW.
WE'RE GRATEFUL TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR CONTINUING TO PROMOTE WATER SAFETY AWARENESS, RECENTLY SUPPORTING LEGISLATION THAT WILL FURTHER EQUIP AND ENABLE OUR AQUATIC SAFETY PERSONNEL TO PROVIDE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PROGRAMING, EDUCATION AND EMERGENCY SERVICES POSSIBLE.
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TO PUT THEM INTO WATER, TO BE WATER SAFETY OR TO TEACH THEM HOW TO SWIM.I CAN TELL YOU FROM FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE.
SO, I MEAN, ONE TWO YEARS OLD IS NOT TOO YOUNG AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A POOL IN YOUR BACKYARD.
SO WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND LET'S GIVE A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE [APPLAUSE].
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT IS BUILDING SAFETY MONTH, AND WE'RE GOING TO LET MR. NORBY INTRODUCE THIS ONE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST, JUST A COUPLE OF WORDS.
WE HAD THE CHANCE TO DEAL WITH OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS IN 2005 WHEN WE BUILT OUR OWN HOME.
AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE A STORY.
MY WIFE WAS VERY NERVOUS ABOUT ALL OUR HOME INSPECTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.
AND I TOLD HER, I SAID, HONEY, I SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THERE TO PROTECT YOU.
SO IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT A PROCLAMATION FOR BUILDING SAFETY MONTH.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD RECOGNIZES OUR GROWTH AND STRENGTH DEPENDS ON SAFETY AND ECONOMIC VALUE OF THE HOMES, BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SERVE OUR RESIDENTS, BOTH IN EVERYDAY LIFE AND IN TIMES OF DISASTER.
AND WHEREAS, OUR CONFIDENCE IN THE RESILIENCE OF THESE BUILDINGS IS ACHIEVED THROUGH THE DEVOTION OF VIGILANT GUARDIANS SUCH AS BUILDING SAFETY AND FIRE PREVENTION OFFICIALS, ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, BUILDERS, DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, PLUMBERS AND OTHERS IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY WORKING TO ENSURE THE SAFE CONSTRUCTION OF BUILDINGS ON A DAILY BASIS. AND WHEREAS, BUILDING SAFETY MONTH IS SPONSORED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL TO REMIND THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE CRITICAL ROLE OUR COMMUNITY'S LARGELY UNKNOWN PROTECTORS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR LOCAL CODE OFFICIALS.
AND WHEREAS, SAFETY FOR ALL BUILDING CODES IN ACTION, THE THEME FOR BUILDING SAFETY MONTH 2022 RAISES AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFE AND SUSTAINABLE CONSTRUCTION, DISASTER MITIGATION AND CREATING A SAFE, ABUNDANT WATER SUPPLY.
AND WHEREAS, EACH YEAR, IN OBSERVANCE OF BUILDING SAFETY MONTH, PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE ASKED TO CONSIDER THE COMMITMENT TO IMPROVE BUILDING SAFETY, RESILIENCE AND ECONOMIC INVESTMENT AT HOME AND IN THE COMMUNITY, AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ESSENTIAL SERVICE PROVIDED TO ALL OF US BY LOCAL AND STATE BUILDING DEPARTMENTS, FIRE PREVENTION BUREAUS AND FEDERAL AGENCIES, IN PROTECTING LIVES AND PROPERTY.
AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME JASON TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND ACCEPT.
WELL, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.
MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS YEAR BUILDING SAFETY MONTH HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFE AND SUSTAINABLE STRUCTURES, HIGHLIGHTS THE BENEFIT OF A WELL TRAINED BUILDING AND FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF.
THIS ANNUAL CAMPAIGN IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MYSELF AS YOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY OF THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT THE BUILDING AND FIRE DIVISION STAFF DO EVERY DAY TO ENSURE THAT CARLSBAD CONTINUES TO HAVE SAFE AND ENERGY EFFICIENT STRUCTURES.
I APPRECIATE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS RECOGNITION ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] NEXT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILMEMBER DR.
BHAT-PATEL TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE SO MANY AMAZING BUSINESSES, WHETHER IT'S ENTREPRENEURS, LARGE BUSINESSES.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION.
SO WHEREAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO BE A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO IMPROVE THE ECONOMIC WELL-BEING AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR CARLSBAD RESIDENTS, WORKERS, BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS BY SUPPORTING A VIBRANT AND RESILIENT ECONOMY.
AND WHEREAS, CARLSBAD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF HAVE WORKED WITH MORE THAN 85 COMPANIES ON EXPANSION, ATTRACTION AND RETENTION PROJECTS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, SUPPORTING MORE THAN 11,400 JOBS AND $1.4 BILLION DOLLARS IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
AND WHEREAS, IN ORDER TO HELP ESTABLISH THE NEXT GENERATION OF NEW BUSINESSES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STIMULATES CARLSBAD ENTREPRENEURISM, WHICH IS THE HALLMARK OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY. AND WHEREAS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOSTERS PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, BUSINESS AND TRADE
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ORGANIZATIONS, REGIONAL COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, AND A VARIETY OF OTHER INSTITUTIONS.THEREFORE, I COUNCIL MEMBER PRIYA BHAT-PATEL, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 9TH THROUGH 13TH 2022 AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. AND WITH THAT, MR. GRAHAM.
BHAT-PATEL. WE ARE VERY PROUD COLLECTIVELY AS A CITY OF OUR $14.6 BILLION DOLLAR ECONOMY.
I THINK WE'RE ALSO VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE GLOBAL HEADQUARTERS OF COMPANIES THAT ARE BEAMING INTERNET INTO PLACES IT DOES NOT EXIST OR CONTRIBUTING TO THE FIGHT FOR AGAINST COVID 19, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THAT AMAZING MOM AND POP ICE CREAM SHOP THAT WE ALL ENJOY, OR THOSE RESTAURANTS, THE SMALL BUSINESSES, THE LARGE ONES, OUR HOTELIERS, WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF WHAT OUR ECONOMY IS.
WE CAN BE PROUD THAT WE'RE THE SECOND LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE REGION AND THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE INNOVATION ECONOMY, WE HAVE MORE PATENTS HERE IN CARLSBAD PER 1000 WORKERS THAN, OH, HAVE YOU HEARD OF SEATTLE, SILICON VALLEY, SAN FRANCISCO, A LITTLE PLACE CALLED BOSTON, WHERE THIS LITTLE UNIVERSITY CALLED HARVARD IS AND A FEW OTHERS.
WE CAN BE PROUD OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND CELEBRATE THAT ON THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR ROLE, WHETHER YOU LIVE HERE, YOU VISIT HERE, OR WHETHER YOU ARE A PERSON WHO'S INVOLVED IN PUBLIC SAFETY, IF YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF TRASH OR OUR ROADS OR OUR PARKS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS CONTRIBUTE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO TODAY WE ARE ALL A PART OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GAME.
AND I INVITE ALL OF US, WHETHER YOU'RE PATRONIZING BUSINESSES, SUPPORTING THEM OR SUPPORTING THIS AMAZING COMMUNITY, TO REALLY CELEBRATE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE'VE DONE TO MAKE CARLSBAD THE PLACE THAT IT IS AND A PLACE THAT IS CONTINUING TO BE ON THE RISE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE DOING THE GREAT WORK FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, DAVID.
[APPLAUSE] OKAY. NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON AN ITEM, NOT ON THE AGENDA.PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.
ALL OTHER NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.
NO ACTIONS CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED. WITH THAT CITY CLERK, DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES, MAYOR. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS VICKY SAIGE, FOLLOWED BY CHRIS WRIGHT.
SO THANK YOU. AND OUR CITY'S FINANCIAL FUTURE.
AS A RESULT OF THAT PUBLIC COMMENT.
MAYOR HALL, YOU INVITED ME TO MEET WITH YOU, WHICH WE DID LAST WEEK.
SO THANK YOU, MAYOR HALL, FOR TAKING YOUR VALUABLE TIME TO MEET WITH ME.
I NEVER MENTIONED THE HIRING OF STAFF AS PART OF THE FINANCIAL ISSUE.
END QUOTE. FOR THE RECORD, MOST OF THE CITY'S STAFF HIRING SINCE 2019 HAS CONSISTED OF ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF, POLICE AND FIRE AND THE CONVERSION OF TEMPORARY CITY CONTRACT WORKERS INTO PERMANENT EMPLOYEES.
IN THE OFFICIAL RECORD, THE CITY USES THE EUPHEMISM, QUOTE, OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.
BUT TRUTHFULLY, THE CITY WAS FLAT OUT BREAKING CALIFORNIA STATE EMPLOYMENT LAW.
THE CITY USED TEMPORARY STAFFED AND CONTRACT WORKERS FOR YEARS ON END.
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THE LAW REQUIRED THAT THESE PEOPLE BE HIRED FULL TIME OR LET GO, AND THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING NUMBERS COME FROM.THESE ARE NOT THE STAFFING NUMBERS I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
MY ISSUE IS DISCUSSED HERE AND WITH MAYOR HALL IS THAT IN 2017 WE HAD A CITY MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO EMPLOYEES THAT COST US $736,000 DOLLARS, ALL IN 490,000 OF WHICH WERE SALARIES OR AN AVERAGE OF 250 K EACH.
IN 2020, THE LAST PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FIGURES, WE HAD A CITY MANAGER, AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THREE DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS, AND A CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER, SIX EMPLOYEES, THREE OF WHOM ARE BRAND NEW HIRES.
IN 2020 THE ALL IN COSTS FOR THESE SIX PEOPLE AND THIS MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE WAS $1.9 MILLION DOLLARS, OF WHICH 1.35 MILLION WERE SALARIES, 2021 AND 2022 NUMBERS WILL BE HIGHER.
WE ARE TOO TOP HEAVY AND IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
IT'S TIME TO REVISIT HOW WE MANAGE OUR CITY.
TOUGH CALLS WILL HAVE TO BE MADE, AND IT'S THE COUNCIL'S JOB TO MAKE THOSE CALLS TO AVOID PUTTING OUR OUR CITY IN FINANCIAL JEOPARDY AND TO KEEP US FINANCIALLY VIABLE FOR THE FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
CHRIS WRIGHT, FOLLOWED BY GLENN BERNARD.
I'M HERE TO DISCUSS OUR CITY BALLOT MEASURE C, WHICH INVOLVES THE APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY CLERK.
I READ THE PROPONENTS ARGUMENT FOR AN APPOINTMENT.
THEY STATED THAT THE CITY WILL BE SAVING 40,000 DOLLARS.
I DID SOME RESEARCH AND PRESENT THIS DATA USING 2020 CENSUS INFORMATION USING INCLUDE YEARLY SALARIES WITH BENEFITS BASED ON THE YEAR 2020 USING TRANSPARENT CALIFORNIA.
ALL CITIES ARE SELECTED AT RANDOM.
I FOUND CITIES IN CALIFORNIA THAT HAVE THE SAME RELATIVE POPULATION OF CARLSBAD AT 114,746.
ANTIOCH, POPULATION 115,291, PAYS THEIR CITY CLERK 22,896.
CARLSBAD PAYS THEIR CITY CLERK 33,591.
BOTH ELECT THEIR CLERKS AND AVERAGES OUT TO 28,200 PER YEAR.
DOWNEY POPULATION 114,355 PAYS THEIR CITY CLERK 148,000 954.
COSTA MESA, POPULATION 111,918, PAYS THEIR CITY CLERK 269,746.
VENTURA, POPULATION 110,763 PAYS THEIR CITY CLERK 178,833.
AVERAGE SALARY WITH BENEFITS 199,100.
THEY ALL APPOINT THEIR CITY CLERKS.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT STATEWIDE WITH CITIES OF SIMILAR POPULATIONS OF OVER 170,000 DOLLARS PER YEAR.
WITHIN OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, WE HAVE OCEANSIDE, WHO ELECTS THEIR CITY CLERK AT 42,539.
AND WITH THE CITY NUMBERS OUR LOCAL ELECTED CITY CLERK MAKE AN AVERAGE OF 38,065.
THE APPOINTED CITY CLERKS LOCALLY MAKE 188 EXCUSE ME, 185,000 MORE PER YEAR LOCALLY THAN THE ELECTED.
VISTA CITY CLERK MAKES 204,523, SAN MARCOS MAKES 262,998, AND ESCONDIDO MAKES 204,926. THERE'S A CLEAR DIFFERENCE IN THE COST OF AN ELECTED CITY CLERK VERSUS AN APPOINTED ONE.
IT IS EXTREMELY HARD FOR ME TO GIVE UP MY VOTE.
THE CITY CLERK MEANS MAINTAINS TRANSPARENCY AND NEEDS TO BE AN INDEPENDENT OFFICE.
BY NO MEANS IS THE CITY CLERK A CEREMONIAL POSITION.
GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY TYRONE BROWN.
WHEN MILITARY PEOPLE ARE ON ACTIVE DUTY, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ABOUT POLITICS AT ALL.
CANNOT BE POLITICAL, CAN'T TALK IT.
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BUT WHEN WE'RE RETIRED, HONORABLY DISCHARGED.THAT'S GOING THROUGH SOME PAPERWORK OF MINE FROM 16 YEARS AGO THAT I TOTALLY FORGOT THAT I EVER DID.
BUT I WROTE A PETITION TO GET SOMETHING ONTO THE BALLOT AND CARLSBAD AS BALLOT PROP HAD TO DEAL WITH GETTING ALL POLITICAL SIGNS BANNED FROM RIGHT OF WAY AND ALLOWED ONLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND THIS WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN DECEMBER OF 2006.
SO TO THOSE WHO ARE MISSING RUSH LIMBAUGH.
I GOT A GOOD REFERRAL FOR YOU.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, BILL MAHER, HE HAS BECOME A VERY PRACTICAL PERSON NOW THAT HE'S IN HIS SIXTIES.
LAST WEEK HE USED THAT TWO WORD PHRASE THAT STARTS WITH BULL.
AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE FORGIVENESS OF ALL COLLEGE DEBT.
AND HE SAID THAT COLLEGE DEGREES ARE BULL THAT A COUPLE OF WEEKS PRIOR TO THAT, HE WAS IRATE ABOUT THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS GIVEN ALL OVER AMERICA, CLAIMING THAT COVID WAS THE EXCUSE.
HA HA, GOVERNMENT GOLF COURSE WITH TAX MONEY.
AND THAT CERTAINLY DOES REMIND US OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN CARLSBAD.
ONCE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT HIT 70 MILLION AND ANYBODY WITH A LICK OF SENSE WOULD KNOW, DOES KNOW THAT THE TOTAL COST FOR THAT GOLF COURSE HIT $100 MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THERE WAS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON HERE AT THE TIME WHO HAD JUST SOMEBODY UP THERE.
TYRONE BROWN, FOLLOWED BY SUZANNE HUME.
THANK YOU. I'M PROFESSOR TYRONE BROWN.
I TEACH INTERCULTURAL COMMUNICATION AT CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY AND ALSO CONDUCT CORPORATE TRAINING AT FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES ABOUT DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION OR ANTI-RACISM SEMINARS IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. AND I JUST WANT TO GO OVER A COUPLE IMPORTANT POINTS HERE, BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD WE'RE RECEIVING A LOT OF PUSHBACK ABOUT CRITICAL RACE THEORY FROM THE REPUBLICANS AND THE CONSERVATIVES. AND SO IF ANYBODY QUESTIONS IF CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS BEING TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS OR BEING IMPLEMENTED IN ANY OF THE BUSINESSES, JUST INSINUATE THAT THAT PERSON IS A RACIST.
THEY'RE GOING TO STOP QUESTIONING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, OR YOU CAN ASK A LITTLE MORE POINTED QUESTIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN MAKING TREMENDOUS PROGRESS.
AS YOU KNOW, MOST WHITE PEOPLE THINK THAT THERE'S A WHITE PRIVILEGE PROBLEM IN AMERICA, DESPITE, IN FACT, MANY ASIAN GROUPS, CHINESE, JAPANESE, EVEN INDIANS, INDIAN AMERICANS FROM INDIA HAVING HIGHER INCOMES AS WELL AS FEW PEOPLE KNOW THAT WHITES ARE ACTUALLY A MINORITY, NOT ONLY IN CALIFORNIA, BUT IN HAWAII, NEW MEXICO, TEXAS, SOON TO BE SEVERAL OTHER STATES AS WELL GEORGIA, MARYLAND, NEVADA.
BUT IF ANYBODY STARTS TO REALIZE THIS, THAT'S GOING TO REALLY UNDERMINE OUR AGENDA BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME PAINTING THE WHITE PEOPLE AS AN OPPRESSOR CLASS, KEEPING DOWN THE POOR MINORITIES, WHEN IN FACT THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE MINORITIES, LIKE I SAID, IN A HALF A DOZEN STATES AND GROWING.
IF ANYBODY BRINGS THIS UP, JUST SAY THAT'S A FOX NEWS TALKING POINT.
NOBODY WILL REALLY PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO THEM FROM THAT POINT.
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THE MEDIA, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH IGNORED THAT, SWEPT IT UNDER THE RUG.SAME WITH THE BROOKLYN SUBWAY SHOOTING RECENTLY.
HE IMAGINED THAT HE GOT FIRED FROM HIS JOB BECAUSE OF RACISM AND THAT KIND OF SET HIM OFF.
BUT THANKFULLY, THAT STORY DISAPPEARED AS WELL.
NOW, THEY ONLY INCLUDE WHITE GROUPS.
THEY'VE DEEMED THAT TO BE A WHITE SUPREMACIST SLOGAN.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
WE JUST WANT TO ASK THAT EVERYBODY JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO HAVE THE FIRST AMENDMENT IN THIS COUNTRY.
SO WE CAN'T ARREST THESE PEOPLE, BUT THE MEDIA CAN PAINT THEM AS RACISTS.
AND WE JUST WANT TO KEEP DOING THAT.
I AM THE EDUCATIONAL DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER OF CLEAN EARTH FOR KIDS.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROCLAIMING THIS MONTH WATER SAFETY MONTH, SO IMPORTANT.
SO AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP AND ALL THAT YOU DO.
YOU'RE WORKING REALLY HARD AND THAT'S YOU KNOW WE SEE YOU AND APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SYNTHETIC, TOXIC PESTICIDES THAT ARE BEING USED AT THE FLOWER FIELDS. IT'S NOT FUN, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT.
IMIDACLOPRID IS BEING USED THAT'S BANNED IN 28 COUNTRIES AND [INAUDIBLE] IS BANNED IN 29 COUNTRIES.
ALSO, GLYPHOSATE, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S DANGEROUS.
I WAS POISONED BY PESTICIDES AND LEFT MY JOB AS A TEACHER TO START CLEAN EARTH FOR KIDS.
TAKE NO SALARY. I'M HERE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE AND THINGS IN THE US.
CHINA BANS 51, THE EU OVER 175 PESTICIDES.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE WE KNOW WHAT'S WHAT, RIGHT.
SO OVER 89% OF PESTICIDES THAT CAME UP FOR THEIR REGISTRATION, IT WAS WAIVED.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES THAT ARE A CONCERN, WE THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THESE PESTICIDES HOUSED IN? ARE THEY HOUSED IN PLASTIC CONTAINERS? SO IF SO, WE THINK ABOUT P F A S RIGHT PFAS.
THEY LEAVE PLASTICS AND OTHERS.
AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO GET PFAS PFAS OUT OF MAKEUP.
AND OUR CHAMPION OF 2020, ALMAR SUCHI IS WORKING ON THIS AND LEVI'S IS GETTING PESTICIDES.
ANYWAY, BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT ONLY THINK ABOUT AND TRY TO STOP TOXIC CHEMICALS TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN'S HEALTH, EDUCATION AND FUTURE, BUT ALSO THE PLASTIC CONTAINERS IN WHICH THESE ARE HOUSED.
SO AGAIN, PFAS TOXIC CHEMICALS AND THE REASON IT MATTERS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE LINKED TO BIRTH DEFECTS, PROBLEMS WITH DEVELOPMENT, KIDNEY CANCER AND KIDNEY DISEASE, LIVER DISEASE AND MANY OTHERS THAT HARM OUR IMMUNE SYSTEMS AND EVEN WITH THE EFFICACY OF VACCINES.
SO WE'D LOVE TO MEET WITH YOU, SHOW YOU OUR SPREADSHEETS AND WORK TOGETHER TO HAVE REALLY POSITIVE, PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO REDUCE TOXIC CHEMICALS, PESTICIDES AND HEAVY METALS.
THANK YOU, FROM CLEAN EARTH FOR KIDS.
THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST 15 MINUTES.
HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE LEFT? TWO. OKAY, WE'LL CONTINUE THOSE TO THE END.
SO WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? WE HAVE ONE FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.NOW WATCH HOW FAST THIS WAS BEING.
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THESE ARE BOTH WORKMAN'S COMP PEOPLE.THERE'S A PROFOUND COINCIDENCE IN TODAY'S PAPER.
THE FRONT PAGE HAS A HEADLINE.
AUDIT COLON RISING WORKER'S COMP PAYOUTS.
CITY OF SAN DIEGO'S FAILURE TO PREVENT INJURIES.
RECOGNIZED SIGNS OF FRAUD ARE NOTED IN THE REPORT.
I HAVE TWO MORE SENTENCES TO READ AND I'M OUT OF HERE.
SAN DIEGO IS WASTING MILLIONS OF IN TAXPAYER MONEY BY NOT PREVENTING INJURIES TO CITY WORKERS WITH MORE RIGOROUS SAFETY PROTOCOLS AND DEEPER ANALYSIS OF HOW INJURIES HAPPEN, ACCORDING TO A NEW CITY AUDIT, WHILE THE AUDIT DIDN'T FIND ANY OVERPAYMENTS OF WORKER'S COMPENSATION BENEFITS OR ANY GHOST EMPLOYEES ON THE CITY PAYROLL.
IT DID FIND THAT CITY OFFICIALS FAIL TO INVESTIGATE FRAUD, RED FLAGS OR ANALYZE PAYOUT TRENDS FOR SIGNS OF FRAUD. SO IT'S GOOD TO READ THAT THAT'S IN SAN DIEGO BECAUSE OF COURSE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD NEVER APPLY IN CARLSBAD.
OKAY. DOES ANYONE WISH TO PULL ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? MOTION PLEASE.
MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE.
PLEASE VOTE. CONSENT CALENDAR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[6. REDUCTION OF USE OF SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BOTTLES AND BAGS AND PROHIBIT THE INTENTIONAL RELEASE OF BALLOONS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD]
MOVING ON FOR ORDINANCES FOR INTRODUCTION.MR. CHADWICK, YOU WANT TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTIONS? YES, SIR. AND JOINING US AND MAKING THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, JAMIE WOOD, ALONG WITH OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, ROBBIE CONTRERAS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.
CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT PLAN IN 2019.
AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPTED THE SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IN DECEMBER OF 2021, ALONG WITH ALL THE NECESSARY ACTIONS TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT STATE LAW RELATED TO SOLID WASTE.
RESTRICTED RELEASE OF BALLOONS AND PLASTIC BAG BAN THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
LAST MONTH YOU HEARD AND ADOPTED THE FIRST OF THESE THE SINGLE USE PLASTIC FOOD WEAR MATERIAL BAN.
THE DRAFT ORDINANCES WERE PLACED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE FOR REVIEW AND COMMENT.
THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE HAS STATED THAT LITTERED PLASTIC PRODUCTS HAVE CAUSED AND CONTINUE TO CAUSE SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL HARM AND HAVE BURDENED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WITH SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP COSTS.
THE PURPOSE OF EACH OF THESE BANS IS TO REDUCE WASTE IN THE LANDFILL AND IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
I'LL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH EACH OF THE ORDINANCES THAT ARE UP FOR ADOPTION TONIGHT.
FIRST, THE BAN ON SINGLE USE, PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES AT CITY FACILITIES AND AFFILIATED EVENTS.
THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND PROHIBITS THE DISTRIBUTION OF SINGLE USE PLASTIC BOTTLES AT ANY CITY FACILITY OR CITY AFFILIATED EVENTS.
THESE CITY AFFILIATED EVENTS WOULD INCLUDE EVENTS SPONSORED OR CO-SPONSORED BY THE CITY, PAID FOR USING CITY FUNDS, EVENTS THAT OCCUR ON CITY PROPERTY OR THAT REQUIRE AUTHORIZATION BY THE CITY, SUCH AS EVENTS THAT REQUIRE SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT.
AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE PLASTIC BAG BAN.
RETAIL AND FOOD SERVICE PROVIDERS MAY PROVIDE RECYCLABLE OR REUSABLE CARRYOUT BAGS AT THE POINT OF SALE FOR A CHARGE OF NO LESS THAN $0.10, WHICH THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT STATE LAW FOR GROCERY STORES.
THIS ORDINANCE HAS TWO ENFORCEMENT CATEGORIES.
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ENFORCEMENT FOR RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS WOULD BEGIN JULY 1ST, 2023, AND ENFORCEMENT FOR FOOD SERVICE PROVIDERS WOULD BEGIN JULY 1ST, 2024.PRIOR TO THE ENFORCEMENT DATES FOR THESE STAFF WOULD CONDUCT RESEARCH, CONDUCT OUTREACH TO RETAIL AND FOOD SERVICE PROVIDERS TO EDUCATE ON THIS NEW REGULATION AND PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ACCEPTABLE ALTERNATIVES FOR PLASTICS.
STAFF WILL WORK TO EDUCATE THE AFFECTED BUSINESSES FOR ALL OF THESE ABOUT WHICH ABOUT EACH OF THESE NEW RESTRICTIONS AND ASSIST WITH TRANSITION TOWARDS COMPLIANCE WITH THESE NEW ORDINANCES. STAFF'S INTENT IS TO EDUCATE FIRST AND USE ENFORCEMENT ONLY AS A LAST RESORT TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE.
TONIGHT, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL IS TO INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CARLSBAD'S MUNICIPAL CODE TITLE SIX ADDING CHAPTER 6.22, 6.24, AND 6.26.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
YES, MAYOR. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY JANICE JONES.
I'D BE VERY PLEASED IF THE THING AGAINST THE BALLOONS GOT PASSED.
BUT WHEN I GO INTO A GROCERY STORE, I'LL TAKE AS MUCH HYGIENE AS I CAN GET.
THE PLASTIC BAGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
PRODUCTION OF IT'S LIKE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
I'D RATHER HAVE A BAN ON PEOPLE GOING INTO GROCERY STORES CARRYING CLOTH BAGS THAT ARE FILTHY.
BUT DON'T GO HARD OR HEAVY OR OUTLAW THE INEXPENSIVE CLEAN, VERY HYGIENIC, BRAND NEW, INEXPENSIVE BAG THAT YOU GET FOR FREE.
NOT MUCH FREE ANYMORE IN AMERICA, HUH? SO THANK YOU.
JANICE JONES, FOLLOWED BY GABRIEL BARTOLI.
GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M SO PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT ON THIS TOPIC.
I'VE BEEN HERE MANY TIMES IN THE PAST.
THE SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAGS, THE SINGLE USE WATER BOTTLES AND BALLOONS.
THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE PROBLEM IS ESPECIALLY EVIDENT AFTER A STORM WHEN THESE ITEMS ARE COVERED IN BARNACLES WITH GROWING WITH SEAGRASS ON THEM.
THEY'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN OUT IN THE OCEAN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE THEY WASH UP.
I FOUND DOZENS OF WATER BOTTLES IN A SINGLE CLEANUP, AND AFTER A STORM THIS PAST FEBRUARY, I PICKED UP OVER 40 BALLOONS AND OVER THAT MANY PROBABLY BAGS THAT DAY, ALONG WITH PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES IN VARYING STAGES OF DEGRADATION.
THERE WAS SO MUCH DEBRIS ON THAT BEACH THAT DAY THAT I COULDN'T CARRY IT ALL OFF.
THIS IS JUST SOUTH OF THE CARLSBAD CLIFFS.
AND I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF THE STEPS YOU'RE TAKING TO FURTHER MITIGATE PLASTIC POLLUTION TONIGHT.
I GUESS THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MORE THAT WE CAN DO COLLECTIVELY, BUT THE ACTIONS THAT YOU'RE TAKING TONIGHT WILL MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE FOR US, FOR VISITORS, FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
AND I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO CITY STAFF WHO HAVE CRAFTED THESE WONDERFUL POLICIES AND HAVE BEEN THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE ROLLED OUT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
GOOD EVENING. HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR HALL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY.
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RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.TO TELL YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF.
I MOVED HERE WHEN I WAS 17, AND I'VE BEEN LIVING IN NORTH COUNTY SINCE THEN.
I MEAN, MY CONNECTION TO THE ENVIRONMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY CLOSE IN MY CULTURE.
MY CULTURE HAS TOLD ME THAT WE CAN LIVE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE.
I WANT OUR NEXT GENERATION TO EXPERIENCE LIFE IN A HEALTHY PLANET.
AND LITTLE STEPS LIKE THE ONES PROPOSED TODAY ARE THE WAY TO GET THERE.
REDUCING WASTE AND BANNING PRODUCTS THAT ARE BAD FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT WOULD BENEFIT US ALL.
12.7 METRIC TONS OF HUMANITY'S DISCARDED PLASTIC END UP POLLUTING OUR OCEAN.
[INAUDIBLE], FOLLOWED BY NIAL CONNELLY.
I'M A GEOGRAPHY PROFESSOR AND FACULTY ADVISOR FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY CLUB AT MIRACOSTA COLLEGE.
THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'VE BEEN WALKING AND HIKING AND SWIMMING HERE FOR 40 YEARS.
I'VE SERVED AS PRESIDENT ON THE BOARD OF SAN DIEGO COAST KEEPER FOR THREE YEARS.
AND I DO A FIVE MILE WALK ON THE BEACH IN CARLSBAD EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND IN ALL OF THOSE PLACES, I'VE SEEN THE DEVASTATING IMPACTS OF PLASTIC TRASH ON WILDLIFE.
I'VE WATCHED SPECIES DISAPPEAR LIKE THE VAQUITA IN BAJA DUE TO FISHING NETS.
I'VE SEEN BIRDS, FISH AND TURTLES DIE AFTER SWALLOWING BALLOONS, PLASTIC BAGS AND PLASTIC STRAWS.
IT'S TIME WE ACCEPT THAT CHANGE IS INEVITABLE.
I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE STATS ON PLASTIC POLLUTION.
I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU. IT'S IN OUR LUNGS.
IT'S IN OUR BLOOD, THAT IT'S IN NEWBORN FETUSES.
INSTEAD, WHAT I HOPE YOU HEAR TODAY IS THAT WE WANT CHANGE.
I LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF THAT BEAUTY.
PLEASE. LET'S BE PART OF THE WAVE THAT SO MANY OTHER CITIES ARE RIDING.
I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND FOR TAKING MY STUDENTS TIME.
THANK YOU. NIAL CONNELLY, FOLLOWED BY TAMARA DIXON.
HELLO. HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR HALL.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE BAN OF SINGLE PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES AT CITY FACILITIES AND CITY AFFILIATED EVENTS AS WELL AS PLASTIC BAGS.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE BAN OF RELEASING BALLOONS.
WE RECENTLY ALSO DID A BEACH CLEANUP AND COLLECTED MORE THAN 30 POUNDS OF TRASH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. TAMARA DICKSON, FOLLOWED BY MITCH SILVERSTEIN.
THESE WERE ALL REALLY GOOD SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU. WELL, THIS IS A WORTHWHILE TOPIC.
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I WANT TO.I THINK THERE ARE SOME OTHER TOPICS THAT ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AND THAT DO REQUIRE OUR ATTENTION.
FOR INSTANCE, THE HEAPS OF TRASH, THE HOMELESS LEAVE ALL OVER CARLSBAD VILLAGE.
INSTEAD OF REDUCING OR BANNING THE SINGLE USE PLASTIC BOTTLES OR BAGS OR THE INTENTIONAL RELEASE OF BALLOONS, WHY NOT PUT SOME OF THIS EFFORT INTO BANNING THE HOMELESS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO THE ENVIRONMENT? SPEAKING OF THE ENVIRONMENT, MS. ACOSTA, I THOUGHT YOUR YOUR CAMPAIGN CONSISTED OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND HELPING THAT.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW A NEW REPUBLIC WASTE COMPANY, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF WASTE CANS THAT ARE JUST IN A WASTE DUMP.
AND SO I'M PRETTY UPSET WITH THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST THE THINGS THAT WE SAY OR THAT WE TRY TO CLEAN UP AT THE BEACHES AND THE MOUNTAINS.
BUT IT'S THIS TERRIBLE THING THAT BASICALLY YOU DECIDED TO DO THROUGH THE BACK DOOR.
HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
I'M THE POLICY COORDINATOR OR SAN DIEGO POLICY COORDINATOR FOR THE SURFRIDER FOUNDATION.
SURFRIDER FOUNDATION IS A NONPROFIT ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO THE PROTECTION AND ENJOYMENT OF THE WORLD'S OCEAN WAVES AND BEACHES FOR ALL PEOPLE THROUGH A POWERFUL ACTIVIST NETWORK.
GOSH, THIS IS SUCH A MOUTHFUL. SUSTAINABLE MANAGEMENT, SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN BACK IN DECEMBER, WHICH DID INCLUDE NOT ONLY STUFF ABOUT PLASTIC, BUT IT DID ALSO INCLUDE ALL OF THESE ORDINANCES THAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT.
Y'ALL'S WORK IS REALLY SECOND TO NONE AND IT'S JUST SO AWESOME TO SEE WHAT YOU'VE PREPARED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO CONSIDER NOT ONLY IN THE AREA OF PLASTIC BUT ALSO IN ORGANIC WASTE REDUCTION AS WELL.
SO JUST GREAT JOB ON BEHALF OF THE SURFRIDER FOUNDATION.
LASTLY, AND JUST ON A PERSONAL NOTE, AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN ADVOCATING FOR PLASTIC POLLUTION REDUCTION FOR MANY YEARS NOW, IT'S JUST REALLY HEARTWARMING TO FOR ME AT LEAST, AND I'M JUST REALLY STOKED TO SEE HOW MUCH LESS CONTROVERSIAL IT'S BECOME HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS OR SO AND REALLY ESPECIALLY IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT'S BECOME SO MUCH LESS CONTROVERSIAL FOR CITY COUNCILS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO TACKLE THIS ISSUE LOCALLY, TO SAY, OKAY, WE KNOW THAT THIS ORDINANCE ISN'T GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD AND STOP PLASTIC EVERYWHERE, BUT WE CAN TAKE ACTION IN OUR BACKYARD TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT HAPPENING HERE AND DO WHAT WE CAN.
AND I REALLY THINK THAT'S A DIRECT, YOU KNOW, IN A GOOD WAY.
IT'S BECAUSE THE PUBLIC AWARENESS HAS REALLY INCREASED AND YOU SEE THE PUBLIC REALLY ASKING FOR THIS AND IN A BAD WAY I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DEMAND HAS INCREASED BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT JUST AN ENVIRONMENTALIST THING ANYMORE.
EVERYWHERE WE GO, EVERYWHERE I LOOK, WE ALL SEE PLASTIC POLLUTION NOW.
AND IT'S ESPECIALLY HEARTBREAKING TO SEE IT IN OUR SPECIAL PLACES LIKE OUR COAST.
THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS MAYOR.
OK QUESTIONS OF STAFF? MR. BLACKBURN. WE GO BACK TO THE TOPIC ABOUT CHARGING A MINIMUM OF $0.10 PER BAG.
WILL YOU GO OVER THAT AGAIN QUICKLY.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM.WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WITH THAT IS MIRROR THE GROCERY STORE.
THE STATE LAW RELATED TO GROCERY STORES BECAUSE WE DID WANT TO HAVE VARYING REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME RETAIL VERSUS GROCERY STORES AND THEN SOME AREAS THAT MAY BE A GROCERY STORE BUT MAY NOT. AND SO WE WANTED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
SO IT WOULD BE YOU CAN USE REUSABLE OR COMPOSTABLE BAGS THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WOULD BE PURCHASING WOULD BE THE THEY'RE NOT REALLY SINGLE USE PLASTIC, BUT THEY'RE THE HEAVIER DUTY PLASTIC OR COMPLETELY REUSABLE AND IS LOOKING UP THE EXACT WORDING.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CONSISTENT.
YES. MAKE SURE I'M SPEAKING INTO THIS MICROPHONE PROPERLY.
SO WE'VE DEFINED CARRY OUT BAG IN THE ORDINANCE MEANS ANY KIND OF BAG THAT YOU WOULD USE TO TRANSPORT FOOD OR MERCHANDISE OUT OF THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT AND THIS FOR PURPOSES OF THIS ORDINANCE CARRY OUT BAG DOES NOT INCLUDE PRODUCE BAGS OR PRODUCT BAGS PRODUCT BAGS ARE THOSE THAT ARE USED TO USE FOR LIKE MEDICINE OR BAGS THAT ARE USED TO MAKE SURE THAT MERCHANDISE IS NOT SPOILED.
AND IN OUR SECTION HERE, THAT SPEAKS TO THE CHARGE OF $0.10.
THE $0.10 AMOUNT COMES FROM STATE LAW, AND THAT'S WHERE THE LEGISLATURE HAS PREEMPTED THIS ISSUE.
SO WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE PUBLIC RESOURCE CODE.
WOULD OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRE THAT THESE BIODEGRADABLE BAGS THAT THEY GIVE ME MY GROCERIES IN, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHARGE $0.10 IN CARLSBAD? LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
AND I'M OKAY WITH THE JUST CHARGING $0.10 TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM USING THE BAD PLASTIC.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS.
SO I KNOW WHETHER TO SUPPORT IT OR NOT SUPPORT IT.
SURE. WELL, LET ME BEGIN, JAMIE, BY ANSWERING WHAT WE DON'T CHARGE FOR, AND THAT IS A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT OR A FOOD SERVICE PROVIDER SHALL NOT REQUIRE A CUSTOMER TO PURCHASE OR ACCEPT A CARRY OUT BAG AS A CONDITION OF ANY SALE.
SO WE KNOW THAT WE CAN, UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, BRING IN OUR OWN BAGS.
AND SO THAT WOULD NOT CARRY A CHARGE.
WE KNOW THAT HERE IT IS, 62404A FOR A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT OR FOOD SERVICE PROVIDER THAT PROVIDES A RECYCLABLE PAPER BAGS OR REUSABLE CARRYOUT BAGS AT THE POINT OF SALE.
SO I BELIEVE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
RECYCLABLE PAPER BAGS OR REUSABLE CARRYOUT BAGS.
AND BOTH OF THOSE TERMS ARE DEFINED IN THIS ORDINANCE.
OKAY. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE MY DEFINITIONS CORRECT.
WHEN YOU SAY A REUSABLE, THAT MEANS THEY TAKE IT HOME, BRING IT BACK A SECOND TIME.
THEY HAVE SOME VERY THIN, BIODEGRADABLE PLASTIC BAGS THEY DON'T CHARGE FOR.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT LANDS IN OUR ORDINANCE.
LET ME READ TO YOU THE DEFINITION OF REUSABLE BAG.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR, THAT I MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT REUSABLE WHERE THEY BRING IT BACK INTO THE STORE.
I'M GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO SHARE WITH MY THERAPIST THAT I AGREE WITH GLENN BERNARD AGAIN ON SOMETHING, AND I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN HIM A LONG TIME, BUT I AGREE WITH HIM. I'D RATHER SEE US GIVE OUT FREE BAGS THAT ARE BIODEGRADABLE THAN PEOPLE BRING IN THEIR FILTHY BAGS INTO THE STORE.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I'M VOTING ON, ON THAT.
OR I'LL JUST SAY UP FRONT THAT I LIKE THE ORDINANCE COMPLETELY.
AND MAYOR PRO TEM I DON'T BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY ADDRESSED BIODEGRADABLE BAGS.
I'VE NOT SEEN THAT ANYWHERE WHERE THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWED.
SO WE COULD YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND DETERMINE IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.
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BUT WE DON'T I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME.WE AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO READ THE DEFINITION SECTION TO YOU, BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE USING IS NOT DEFINED AS A REUSABLE CARRYOUT BAG OR A REUSABLE PRODUCE BAG.
WE HAVE DEFINED HERE A RECYCLABLE PAPER BAG.
BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INCURRING THAT $0.10 COST, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN A PART OF OUR ORDINANCE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CARRY OUT BAG CHARGE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECYCLABLE PAPER BAGS OR REUSABLE CARRYOUT BAGS.
THOSE ARE WHAT CAN BE PROVIDED TO CUSTOMERS FOR A CHARGE OF NO LESS THAN $0.10.
AND THOSE ARE THE THICK PLASTIC THAT WE'RE TRYING WELL, AND THE REUSABLE RECYCLABLE PAPER BAGS.
RIGHT. WE KNOW THOSE CAN BE RECYCLED THOSE ARE PAPER.
AND REUSABLE CARRY OUT BAGS, WHICH WE HAVE HERE MEANS A BAG THAT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED AND MANUFACTURED FOR MULTIPLE USES AND MEETS THE REUSABLE BAG REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC RESOURCES CODE.
SO THAT'S WHAT COMES FROM THAT DEFINITION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN I JUST CARRY ON? BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE SAME CONFUSION THAT HE DOES, PLEASE, DEFINE A BIODEGRADABLE PLASTIC BAG.
IS THERE SUCH A THING? OUR ORDINANCE DOES NOT DO THAT, MAYOR.
I SAID, IS THERE SUCH A THING? IS THERE A BIODEGRADABLE PLASTIC BAG? SO, MAYOR.
SO WHAT WE'VE CALLED BIODEGRADABLE MARINE DEGRADABLE, WHICH, AS DEFINED IN THE PUBLIC RESOURCES CODE, MEANS THAT IT IS BIODEGRADABLE UNDER MARINE ENVIRONMENT CONDITIONS IN LESS THAN 120 DAYS.
SO IS TO CARRY ON WITH MR. BLACKBURN'S THOUGHT IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE USING OR OTHER STORES ARE USING.
I'M NOT SURE I'VE JUST BECAME FAMILIAR WITH BIODEGRADABLE PLASTIC BAG.
THIS JUST CAME UP ON MY RADAR IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND SO HE'S BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN.
IS THAT SOMETHING THEY USE IN GROCERY STORES? I'VE ONLY I ONLY KNOW THEM FOR THINGS LIKE A PRODUCE BAG, THOSE VERY THIN TYPE BAGS, NOT THE LIKE LARGE BAGS YOU WOULD CARRY A GALLON OF MILK OUT IN BECAUSE TYPICALLY THEY'RE NOT STRONG ENOUGH FOR THAT.
AND SO I'VE NOT SEEN THEM AS THE ACTUAL TAKEAWAY BAG, AS BIODEGRADABLE.
USUALLY THEY'RE JUST REUSABLE.
SO AND THIS IS PROBABLY NOT PART OF THE TOPIC TONIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING YOUR WASTE INTO THE GREEN WASTE CONTAINER FROM YOUR KITCHEN WASTE, IS THAT THE SAME BIODEGRADABLE BAG THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING FOR FOOD WASTE TO GO INTO THE GREEN BIN STARTING JULY 1ST WILL BE THE MARINE DEGRADABLE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY CERTIFIED MARINE DEGRADABLE. SO JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING SAYS IT IS DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THAT IT'S COMPOSTABLE, BUT IT'S COMPOSTABLE AND MARINE DEGRADABLE, WHICH FITS INTO THAT DEFINITION, WHICH REPUBLIC SERVICES HAS SAID THEY CAN PROCESS.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TONIGHT IS THAT BAG COULD NOT BE.
BUT THAT'S NOT A BAG THAT YOU COULD PUT YOUR GROCERIES IN, LIKE MILK OR.
IT'S NOT HEAVY ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
I DON'T I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE IT MAY.
I'VE JUST NOT SEEN THAT AND I'VE NOT BEEN.
AND SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE DEALT WITH THAT IN THIS ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY FOR A TAKEAWAY BAG.
AND COMPOSTABLE HAS THREE SUB PARTS THAT FORM THE DEFINITION OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE COMPOSTABLE.
I CAN READ THEM TO YOU NOW IF YOU'D LIKE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
WE SAY ALL PLASTIC BAGS, AND THEN WE COME UP WITH THE BIODEGRADABLE PLASTIC BAG.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CLARITY AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MAKE ONE THAT YOU CAN CARRY STUFF OUT IN OR NOT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT PERHAPS THEY DO SOMEWHERE.
AND IF SO, WHY WOULDN'T WE USE IT? SO ANYHOW, I'M SORRY I JUMPED IN ON YOU, MR. BLACKBURN. OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. NORBY, QUESTION? COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? OKAY. FINAL COMMENTS, MR. NORBY. LET ME JUST START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY, AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE ON THIS COUNCIL AS WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE.
I'D LIKE TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE FORWARD.
THE WORDS OF THE STUDENT SPEAKER WHO WAS BORN IN BRAZIL RING VERY TRUE.
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I WOULD LIKE TO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER JUST KIND OF RECORD THAT.THESE ARE VERY, I GUESS, BASIC AND SMALL, BUT A LOT OF SMALL STEPS AS THEY COME TOGETHER IN A LOT OF PLACES, A LOT OF SMALL STEPS WITHIN OUR CITY DO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO I'M JUST PLEASED TO BE PART OF THIS COUNCIL THAT DOES THIS AND BRINGS THIS FORWARD.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, BECAUSE I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC INPUT, THE CONSISTENT MESSAGE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CARE ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT, THAT WE WANT TO DO MORE TO PROTECT IT.
AND TONIGHT, FROM THE SPEAKERS, THE STUDENTS, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HEAR FROM STUDENTS IN THE NEXT GENERATION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY STAYS CLEAN AND GREEN AND HEALTHY AND ACTIVE.
AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS IS, IS THAT OUR STAFF HAS REALLY PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO RESEARCHING WHAT THE STATE'S BEEN DOING, WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN DOING. AND AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS, MR. SILVERSTEIN MENTIONED, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT CITIES ALL OVER THE STATE HAVE BEEN TAKING UP AND PASSING.
AND THERE'S THIS POSITIVE WAVE OF CHANGE WHERE WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL.
YES, THANK YOU. AND I, TOO, WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY AND OF COURSE, OUR STAFF.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SO REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS IN THE SAME ROOM, FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD WORK WITH THEM AND JUST MOVE THIS FORWARD IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND DO WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ALREADY WITH REGARDS TO PROTECTING OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR OPEN SPACES, NATURE, BEACH, IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS.
BUT OVER THE 14 YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, IT'S GIVEN ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND LEARN A LOT FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO YOU'RE PULLING ME OVER INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE A LITTLE BIT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SHARE THESE VIEWS.
SO WITH THE ONE THAT ONE LITTLE CAVEAT THAT I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH WHEN I GOT MY BAGS FROM THE GROCERY STORE IN ENCINITAS AND THEY SAY THEY'RE BIODEGRADABLE, I FAILED TO ASK THEM HOW MANY DAYS IT TAKES FOR IT TO BIODEGRADE BEFORE I TOOK IT.
AND THEN IF WE NEED TO ADJUST THIS LATER, WE'LL ADJUST IT LATER.
BUT I THINK YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT MY CONCERN WAS ON IT.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION ONCE MORE.
WHEN WE SAY BIODEGRADABLE AND I'M WALKING DOWN AND PICKING UP MY GREEN, WHATEVER IT IS, ASPARAGUS, BROCCOLI, AND I'M PUTTING IT INTO A PLASTIC BAG.
AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT NOW OR AM I GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THAT AND JUST CARRY IT ALONG? YES, MAYOR, YOU'RE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, STAFF, BUT THIS DOES NOT APPLY FOR THE ACTUAL PRODUCE BAGS THEMSELVES.
THIS IS TALKING ABOUT MORE OF THE CARRY OUT.
THEY CAN HAVE COMPOSTABLE MARINE DEGRADABLE PRODUCE BAGS.
SO TECHNICALLY, IT'S NOT ALL PLASTIC BAGS, BIODEGRADABLE, STILL USABLE.
SO BUT THAT I WILL ALSO SUPPORT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CLARITY ON THIS.
SO WITH THAT, I GUESS WE NEED TO INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE.
YES. I'M GOING TO TAKE THE ORDINANCES ONE AT A TIME.
I'LL INTRODUCE ONE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A VOTE AND I'LL INTRODUCE THE SECOND ONE.
I'M TAKING THEM IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THE EXHIBITS APPEARED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE PLASTIC BOTTLE REDUCTION.
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REDUCTION. MOVE INTRODUCTION TO THE ORDINANCE JUST RECITED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[APPLAUSE] PLEASE. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW GO TO AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE SIX OF THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE TO ADD CHAPTER 6.2 FOR PLASTIC BAG BAN.
MOVE INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE JUST RECITED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I'VE BEEN ASKED TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, SO.
THERE'S A THIRD ONE, ISN'T THERE? YES, THERE IS A THIRD ONE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS TWO. THANK YOU.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE SIX OF THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE TO ADD CHAPTER 6.26 INTENTIONAL RELEASE OF BALLOONS PROHIBITION.
MOVE INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE RECITED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
AND THAT ONE ALSO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SO IF WE COULD TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND LET'S BE PROMPT ABOUT IT AND BE RIGHT BACK.
NEXT UP IS ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION.
[7. ORDINANCE NO. CS-421 – MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY.
COULD THE CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE TITLE THE ORDINANCE.
MAYOR? MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER.
OH, I'M SORRY, THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.
I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR SPEAKERS AFTER SHE TITLED THE ORDINANCE.
SPEAKERS. NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. SORRY I JUMPED THE GUN A LITTLE BIT.
MOVE. ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
[8. ORDINANCE NO. CS-422 – HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAMS]
ITEM 8 ORDINANCE NUMBER CS-422 HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAMS. SPEAKERS. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING AMENDMENTS TO THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE, TITLE 18, THE BUILDING CODE, TITLE 21 ZONING ORDINANCE IMPLEMENTING CERTAIN HOUSING PROGRAMS REQUIRED UNDER THE 2021 2029 HOUSING ELEMENT MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE CONTAINED IN AGENDA NUMBER 8.
[9. FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD’S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM]
PROGRAM. MR. CHADWICK. GREAT, THANK YOU, SIR.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS NANCY MELANDER, SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER IN THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
I'LL BE PRESENTING THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL COVER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM BACKGROUND, THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN PRIORITIES, THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FUNDING ALLOCATION, THE CDBG ADVISORY COMMITTEE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE REQUESTED ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THE CDBG PROGRAM IS TO HELP DEVELOP VIABLE URBAN COMMUNITIES THROUGH THE PROVISION OF IMPROVED LIVING ENVIRONMENTS, EXPANSION OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND DECENT HOUSING.
TO ASSIST IN THE PLANNING PROCESS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS TASKED TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND MAKE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 ENTITLEMENT FUNDING.
SPIRIT OF VOLUNTEERISM AND DEDICATION TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THE FISCAL 2022 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN REPRESENTS THE THIRD YEAR OF THE CITY'S FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, WHICH ASSESSES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS, IDENTIFIES THE CITY'S PRIORITY GOALS AND OUTLINES STRATEGIES TO HELP THE CITY MEET THOSE GOALS, WHICH ARE REFLECTED HERE.
THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PLAN PRIORITIES ON JANUARY 14, 2020.
THE CITY'S ENTITLEMENT ALLOCATION AMOUNT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 IS APPROXIMATELY $527,154 DOLLARS.
OF THE TOTAL ALLOCATION AMOUNT, THE CITY IS LIMITED TO SPENDING A MAXIMUM OF 15% OF THE GRANT FUNDS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES, UP TO 20% FOR PROGRAM OPERATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES WAREHOUSING SERVICES AND THE REMAINING FUNDS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.
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THE CITY RECEIVED NINE ELIGIBLE APPLICATIONS FROM NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FOR A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES.THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES BROTHER BENNO, CATHOLIC CHARITIES, INTERFAITH COMMUNITY SERVICES, COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER AND WRC FOR FUNDING TO PROVIDE CONTINUED RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE, BASIC NEEDS, WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND FUNDS TO SUPPORT SHELTER OPERATIONS TO PREVENT AND REDUCE HOMELESSNESS.
IN THE CATEGORY FOR PUBLIC FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO FUND THE CITY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF 302,651 FOR FUTURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.
FINALLY, AS NOTED IN FEDERAL GUIDELINES, A MAXIMUM OF 20% OF THE FUNDING IS NOT TO EXCEED 105,430 IS RECOMMENDED FOR CDBG PROGRAM OPERATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES 23,000 FOR A CONTRACT WITH LEGAL AID SOCIETY OF SAN DIEGO TO ASSIST RESIDENTS WITH FAIR HOUSING SERVICES. UPON APPROVAL, STAFF WILL SUBMIT THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND TO THE HUD FOR ITS REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
IN CLOSING, TONIGHT'S REQUESTED ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND THE COMMITTEE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS AND AUTHORIZE THE SUBMITTAL OF THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT HAVE SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM MAYOR.
OKAY. THEN WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE COMMENTS? MR. NORBY. AGAIN, JUST I'M ALWAYS AMAZED AT THIS COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS AND I JUST LOVE OUR SYSTEM WHERE WE TAKE LAYPEOPLE AND INTERESTED CITIZENS AND HAVE A LAYER THAT WORKS WITH PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND THOSE THAT ARE DOING WORK AND OVERSIGHT AND THEIR SELECTION.
I'M JUST SO I KNOW THAT GOES ON 30 OR 40 TIMES IN THIS COMMUNITY AT VARIOUS TOPICS.
IT'S A GOOD JOB. THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
OTHER COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE HAVE BIG ISSUES LIKE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO LOOK TO NONPROFITS AND PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THE CDBG FUNDING PROGRAMS ARE THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, IS REALLY FINDING THEM AND WORKING WITH THEM AND HELPING FUND THEIR WORK IN THE COMMUNITY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND TO ALL OF THE STAFF WHO WORKED ON THIS.
MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.
MOVING ON TO DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS.
[10. AGREEMENT WITH VIGILANT SOLUTIONS FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING LICENSE PLATE READERS AND CONSIDERATION OF EXPANDING THE PROGRAM]
AGREEMENT WITH VIGILANT SOLUTIONS FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING LICENSE PLATE READERS AND CONSIDERATION OF EXPANDING THE PROGRAM.SO I'LL START. START OFF BETTER HERE.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M CAPTAIN BRYAN HARGETT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I OVERSEE THE PATROL OPERATIONS DIVISION NOW.
SEATED TO MY RIGHT IS LIEUTENANT JEFF SMITH.
HE'S ASSIGNED TO THE INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION.
LIEUTENANT SMITH IS ALSO THE ADMINISTRATOR OF OUR PROGRAM, OUR LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM.
TODAY'S PRESENTATION WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU.
SORRY. I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, AN UPDATE ON OUR LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM.
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LIEUTENANT SMITH'S GOING TO COVER THE POLICY AUDITS AND COMPLIANCE WITH ALL LAWS.WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
GIVE YOU A FEW OPTIONS TO EXPAND.
AND THEN SHARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I APOLOGIZE. SO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE LPR PROGRAM.
IN 2017, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PURCHASE INSTALLATION OF 51 FIXED LICENSE PLATE READERS AND CAMERAS WITH 24 MOBILE LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S FOUR MOBILE CAMERAS PER CAR.
SO WE HAVE SIX POLICE CARS WITH THE MOBILE READERS ON IT.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 85 FIXED LPR CAMERAS AND 24 MOBILE CAMERAS.
SO THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS ARE WHERE THEY'RE AT.
NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS HOW WE USE OUR LPR CAMERAS.
THIS IMPROVES OUR EFFICIENCY IN ADDRESSING CRIME TRENDS AND COMMUNITY SAFETY.
IT ALSO PROVIDES A REAL TIME CRIME INFORMATION ENHANCING OFFICER SAFETY.
FOR OUR INVESTIGATIVE USE, WE'RE ABLE TO SEARCH DATABASES FOR ALL POSSIBLE SUSPECT VEHICLES AFTER A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED OR THAT HAS OCCURRED.
A QUICK EXAMPLE OF THAT IS IMAGINE IF YOUR HOUSE OR MY HOUSE WAS BURGLARIZED AND YOUR NEIGHBOR HAS A SURVEILLANCE CAMERA SYSTEM OR THEY HAVE A CELL PHONE CAMERA, AND THEY TOOK A PICTURE OF A SUSPECT VEHICLE LEAVING THAT AREA.
ONCE THEY GET THAT PLATE, WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT WHEN THE VEHICLE ENTERED THE CITY, WHERE ELSE THE VEHICLE WAS, THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL, THE TIME TO HELP US IDENTIFY WHEN AND WHERE IT CAME FROM SO WE CAN QUICKLY INVESTIGATE THAT CRIME.
IT ALSO PROVIDES INVESTIGATORS WITH LEADS TO LOCATE MISSING PERSONS AND PEOPLE AT RISK.
I'D LIKE TO SHARE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THIS.
THE MOM CALLED TO ASK US IF WE COULD TRY TO HELP HER FIND HER DAUGHTER.
AND USING OUR LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEM AND THE INFORMATION THE MOTHER PROVIDED, WE WERE ABLE TO LOCATE THE DAUGHTER, MAKE SURE SHE GOT THE HELP SHE NEEDED, AND THEN CIRCLE BACK WITH MOM TO LET HER KNOW THAT HER DAUGHTER WAS OKAY.
IF WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S CONTINUOUSLY CAUSING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND THEN WE HAVE A VICTIM THERE AND WE HAVE WE GET A RESTRAINING ORDER FOR THIS PERSON, THIS IS A GREAT TOOL FOR US TO KNOW WHEN THAT CAR ENTERS OR EXITS THE CITY, IF THIS PERSON IS COMMITTING THESE TYPES OF CRIMES AND WE HAVE THE CAR HOT, I'M SORRY, THE LICENSE PLATE HOTLIST, WE'RE ABLE TO GO TO THAT THE VICTIM'S HOUSE AND SEE IF THEY'RE OKAY, COORDINATE RESPONSES AND ADDRESS THE CRIME AND PROGRESS AS NEEDED.
SO NOW ON THE SCREEN YOU SEE SOME HIGHLIGHTS AND PIECES ON HOW VALUABLE THIS PROGRAM IS.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE NUMBERS SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE PROGRAM IN 2017 TO MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
NOT ONLY IS THIS VALUABLE TO US, BUT IT'S A REGIONAL TOOL.
AND THE REGIONAL ASPECT OF THIS PROGRAM IS HELPFUL FOR KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
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121 UNOCCUPIED RECOVERIES.AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE 470 SUSPECTS ARRESTED, THAT'S BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHEN WE CONTACT FOLKS IN WANTED VEHICLES, THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON IN THE CAR THAT MIGHT GET ARRESTED AS WELL.
INVESTIGATIVE USES ARE IMPORTANT FOR THIS PROGRAM.
LICENSE PLATE READERS HAVE HELPED US SOLVE THESE AND OTHER TYPES OF CASES.
NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST IS HOMICIDES.
SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THIS PROGRAM.
THEY'VE HELPED SOLVE ALMOST ALL OF OUR HOMICIDES IN THE CITY.
I'M GOING TO GO ON TO THE NEXT ONES OF SEX ASSAULTS AND KIDNAPINGS.
WE HAD A CASE WHERE A VICTIM GOT INTO A CAR.
SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS ENTERING A RIDESHARE VEHICLE.
SHE QUICKLY REALIZED IT WASN'T A RIDESHARE VEHICLE.
IT WAS SOMEONE IMPOSING AS A, YOU KNOW, POSTURE TO THAT.
SHE ASKED HIM TO STOP. HE DIDN'T.
HE ALSO SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HER.
SHE HAD TO JUMP OUT OF THE VEHICLE TO GET AWAY FROM THIS PERSON.
WHEN OFFICERS ARRIVED ON SCENE, THEY USED THE LPR SYSTEM TO LOCATE THE VEHICLE, THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL, AND ULTIMATELY THE INVESTIGATORS WERE ABLE TO TAKE THE SUSPECT INTO CUSTODY. WE GO TO ARSONS.
OFFICERS AND INVESTIGATORS ON SCENE WERE ABLE TO LOOK INTO THE TIME OF THE CALL.
AND AT THE TIME OF THE NIGHT, THERE WASN'T THAT MANY VEHICLES.
CRIME SERIES IS A BIG THING NOW, NOT ONLY REGIONALLY BUT THROUGHOUT OUR STATE.
RECENTLY. WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH ALL THE AGENCIES UP AND DOWN THE STATE FOR THIS.
BE DETECTED BY A LICENSE PLATE READER COMING INTO THE CITY.
OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO DEPLOY TO ALL OF OUR RETAIL CENTERS.
THEY FOUND THE VEHICLE INVOLVED IN THESE CRIMES, STOPPED IT AND ARRESTED A FEW PEOPLE IN THE CAR, RECOVERING OVER $16,000 IN GOODS FROM OTHER STOLEN BUSINESSES. I'VE ALREADY COVERED MISSING PERSONS AT RISK AND BURGLARIES.
THANK YOU. WE'LL TALK ABOUT FIXED CAMERAS.
THEY ONLY CAPTURE LICENSE PLATES.
UNDERSTANDING THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERN.
THE DECISION WAS FOR THOSE FIXED CAMERAS TO ONLY CAPTURE THE REAR OF THE PLATE.
SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE A ROADWAY, THE CAMERAS ARE ON LIGHT STANDARDS.
AS FAR AS OUR MOBILE CAMERAS AND OUR POLICE VEHICLES, THEY CAN CAPTURE IMAGES POTENTIALLY FROM THE FRONT AND THE BACK JUST DUE TO THE NATURE OF BEING IN TRAFFIC AND HAVING VEHICLES COMING TOWARDS THEM OR GOING AWAY FROM THEM.
ALL OF OUR DATA AND IMAGES ARE ONLY AVAILABLE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MANAGES THAT DATA.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DETERMINES WHAT AGENCY VIEWS THAT DATA.
WE HAVE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDINGS OR [INAUDIBLE] BETWEEN EACH AGENCY WE SHARE DATA WITH.
DATA THAT IS ACCESSED BY AN INDIVIDUAL NEEDS A USERNAME AND A PASSWORD TO ACCESS IT.
IT NEEDS A CASE NUMBER AND OR AN INCIDENT NUMBER REQUIRED TO ACCESS THAT DATA.
IT REQUIRES A REASON FOR THE INQUIRY IS REQUIRED TO ACCESS THAT DATA.
EACH INQUIRY IS RECORDED IN AN AUDITING TRAIL.
DATA IS RETAINED FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR, UNLESS IT'S PART OF A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION WHERE IT WOULD BE ATTACHED TO A POLICE REPORT, ETC., AND PURSUANT TO THOSE GUIDELINES AND RETENTION TIMELINES.
POLICY 462 SETS CLEAR GUIDELINES ON HOW WE MANAGE OUR LPR PROGRAM.
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THE POLICY SETS PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES TO ENSURE WE HAVE PUBLIC TRUST WITH THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT.AND THEN WE FOLLOW ALL OF THE RULES ESTABLISHED REQUIREMENTS FOR USERS OF THIS DATA.
POLICY 462 IS ALSO IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE LAW.
OUR CURRENT POLICY MEETS ALL REQUIRED LAWS ASSOCIATED WITH THE LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM.
POLICY 462 REQUIRES A MONTHLY AND BI ANNUAL AUDIT.
A MONTHLY AUDIT IS AN AUDIT CONDUCTED BY THE PROGRAM'S ADMINISTRATIVE LIEUTENANT.
THIS AUDIT ENSURES THAT EVERY DETECTION, BROWSING INQUIRY AND HAS A CASE NUMBER OR AN INCIDENT NUMBER AND CONTAINS A LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT REASON AS TO WHY THE INQUIRY WAS MADE.
THIS AUDIT VERIFIES AND CONFIRMS THAT INQUIRIES WERE MADE FOR LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES ONLY, AND THAT ALL REQUIREMENTS FROM THE POLICY ARE MET.
NEXT, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
WE'VE CONDUCTED MULTIPLE COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON OUR LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM, ITS CAPABILITIES, AND TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS THE COMMUNITY HAS.
THESE OUTREACH EFFORTS INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.
WE EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS.
THE VALUE OF THE INTELLIGENCE GATHERED FROM THE PROGRAM.
HOW WE ENSURE THAT THE DATA VIEWED IS USED FOR LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES, ONLY THE AUDITING MEASURES TAKEN TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND TO GAIN COMMUNITY TRUST IN THE USE OF THIS PROGRAM.
IN SOCIAL MEDIA WE USED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS USED TO DISPLAY SUCCESSFUL STORIES THAT LICENSE PLATE PROGRAM READER USES TO SOLVE CRIME TO LOCATE PEOPLE AT RISK.
AND LASTLY, CITIZENS ACADEMIES AND POLICE CITIZENS ACADEMIES.
THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOW HOW OUR LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM WORKS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HOW WE UTILIZE IT, AND TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CITIZENS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PROGRAM TO HELP SOLVE CRIME, LOCATE PERSONS AT RISK, AND ASSIST OUR LOCAL AND REGIONAL PARTNERS.
WE WILL CONTINUE THESE OUTREACH EFFORTS FORMALLY AND INFORMALLY, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS AND HOW WE USE THIS PROGRAM, THE CAPABILITIES OF THE PROGRAM, AND HOW WE ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT.
THANKS, JEFF. SO FIRST I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW OPTIONS.
THIS CURRENT MAP IS OUR CURRENT LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEM NOW.
THE READERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
IT WAS DESIGNED STRATEGICALLY AND IN DIFFERENT PROJECTS TO LOOK AT OUR DOWNTOWN AREA OR RETAIL AREAS ALONG THE I-5 CORRIDOR AND THE CRITICAL INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO OPTION ONE IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER A CONTRACT WITH VIGILANT SOLUTIONS FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CITY'S 85 FIXED AND 24 MOBILE LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS, AND TO EXECUTE AN ENTERPRISE SERVICE AGREEMENT, AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,099,240. OPTION TWO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE BLUE DIAMONDS.
NOW WITH THE RED DIAMONDS, SOME OF THOSE BLUE DIAMONDS OVERLAY CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE GOING AT DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS OF TRAVEL NOW.
THE MIND SETS, THE SAME I-5 CORRIDOR.
WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PARTS OF OUR CITY AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO OPTION TWO IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER A CONTRACT WITH VIGILANT SOLUTIONS, REPLACING THE EXISTING CAMERAS AND EXPANDING THE LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM BY PURCHASING AN ADDITIONAL 43 CAMERAS FOR A TOTAL FIXED CAMERAS FOR A TOTAL OF 128 FIXED 24 MOBILE CAMERAS, AND EXECUTE
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AN ENTERPRISE SERVICE AGREEMENT AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,469,374.I HOPE I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ARTICULATE THE POWER OF THIS TOOL, THE STRATEGIC STRATEGIC PLACEMENT WE'VE LOOKED AT AND HOW WE USE IT TO ADDRESS CRIME TRENDS WITHIN THE CITY AND ULTIMATELY TO ENSURE THE COMMUNITY SAFETY.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS OPTION TO.
THAT'S THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION, AND WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? YES, MAYOR. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS VICKI [INAUDIBLE].
HELLO ME AGAIN BEFORE WE START.
ARE THEY ALLOWED TO BRING BACK A SLIDE, PLEASE? COULD YOU PLEASE BRING UP THE AUDIT SLIDE? THE AUDIT COMPLIANCE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO MY PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT WAS THE FIRST SLIDE OF LIEUTENANT.
THIS AGENDA ITEMS CPD'S ASKING FOR WELL, YOU SHOWED 1.5, BUT IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND YOU ADD ALL THE INSTALLATION, 1.8 MILLION TO EXPAND AND REPLACE OUR AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEM.
AND THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO SIGN OFF ON ANOTHER 2.7 MILLION TO UPGRADE IN OUR AND EXPAND OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM. THAT'S POTENTIALLY $4.5 MILLION MORE IN PUBLIC SAFETY SPENDING OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND.
JUST WEEKS AFTER THE CITY SAID THAT OUR REVENUES WILL NOT KEEP UP WITH OUR EXPENSES, CRIME IS UP, AND IT'S EASY TO GET CAUGHT UP IN FEAR, UNCERTAINTY AND DOUBT. BUT THAT'S NOT HOW A WELL-RUN CITY MAKES SOUND.
FINANCIAL DECISIONS OK AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS COMING OUT OF WARRANTY.
BUT I DON'T GO BUY A NEW CAR BECAUSE THE WARRANTY IS UP.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GETTING FOR OUR MONEY.
430 INSURED CARS INSURED RECOVERED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WORTH 10 MILLION BUCKS.
CPDS OWN NUMBERS ESTIMATE THAT 40% OF OUR PROPERTY CRIME IS BECAUSE FOLKS DON'T LOCK THEIR STUFF UP.
WE COULD REDUCE THAT NUMBER BY 40% IF FOLKS WOULD JUST FLIP AND LOCK THEIR DARN CARS.
THAT $1.8 MILLION THAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO TAKE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND COVERS THE SALARY AND BENEFITS OF THE CITY MANAGER, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THE THREE DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS, AND THE CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICERS.
SO WHAT DO WE CHOOSE? THOSE SIX POSITIONS, THOSE JOBS OR NEW AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEM? BECAUSE WHEN MONEY'S TIGHT, THOSE DECISIONS BECOME OR NOT AND WE NEED TO DEFER THIS DECISION.
AND THUS IN JANUARY SENT YOU ALL A MEMO THAT OUTLINED THIS NEW POLICY.
THIS NEW POLICY HAS ONLY BEEN IN PLACE FOR FOUR MONTHS.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE BIANNUAL AUDITS YET.
THIS NEW POLICY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ORIGINAL POLICY IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN.
CPD SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THIS THE ENTIRE FIVE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD THIS SYSTEM.
SO WHAT CPD NEEDS TO DO IS TO FOLLOW THIS POLICY, BRING BACK US 3 TO 4 CLEAN AUDITS, SHOW THAT YOU'RE HANDLING THAT DATA PROPERLY BEFORE YOU ASK FOR MORE MONEY TO UPGRADE OR EXPAND THE SYSTEM, LET'S USE WHAT WE HAVE.
BY THAT TIME, THE CITY SHOULD KNOW BETTER WHAT ITS FINANCIAL POSITION IS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
USE THE SYSTEM WE'VE PAID FOR WITHOUT A WARRANTY, JUST LIKE I DRIVE MY OUT-OF-WARRANTY CAR.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS MAYOR.
MR. BLACKBURN, YOU WANT TO START US? YEAH. THIS SHOWED 24 MOBILE UNITS.
IS THAT 24 CARS OR IS THAT JUST SIX CARS WITH FOUR CAMERAS? THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. SIX CARS, FOUR CAMERAS, EACH CAR.
ONE OF MY THOUGHTS IS WE SEEM TO HAVE A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF CRIME AT SOME OF OUR HOTELS.
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AND WE GET AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE GET A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT IT.I'M GUESSING MOST OF THE CRIMINALS WHO GO TO OUR HOTELS COME VIA CAR.
WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE MORE THAN JUST FOUR CARS? AND I'M GUESSING WE DON'T HAVE FOUR CARS ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
WE HAVE SOME CARS ON ONE SHIFT, SOME CARS ON ANOTHER SHIFT.
WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE MORE OF THE MOBILE CAMERAS OUT THERE? SO THEN THAT WAY THEY'RE BEING WHEN THEY DRIVE THROUGH PARKING LOTS OF ALL THE HOTELS AND MOTELS WE HAVE WILL THAT, HELP THEM WITH SOME OF THAT THAT MOTEL CRIME, WOULD THAT BE A BENEFIT? AND WHAT I'M LEADING UP TO IS MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE IF THE ANSWER IS YES, HOW DO WE ADJUST THIS TO GET MORE CARS WITH THE LPR? YES, SIR. OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD HELP.
IS YOUR MIC ON? YES, SIR, IT IS.
YEAH. OBVIOUSLY, ADDING MORE CARS WOULD HELP, BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS IN A VERY STRATEGIC WAY TO PUT THE CAMERAS UP IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE CRIME TRENDS AROUND THOSE AREAS APPROPRIATELY WITH THE CAMERA LOCATIONS.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
I JUST IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE HAVE FOUR CARS EQUIPPED WITH THE CAMERAS, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO ONLY HAVE MAYBE TWO AT A TIME WORKING MAYBE TWO ON DAY SHIFT, TWO AT NIGHT SHIFT.
AND WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF CRIME AT OUR MOTELS.
SO I'M WONDERING NOT REPLACING THE STATIONARY, BUT SUPPLEMENTING, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IT COMES WITH A SUBSTANTIAL COST, BUT IT WOULD WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE MORE THAN TWO CARS AT A TIME OUT THERE WITH THE CAMERAS? YES, SIR.
ANY ADDITIONAL READERS WE HAVE OUT THERE BENEFIT US.
IT ALERTS US TO VEHICLES THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MAYBE ADDRESS OR GIVE US INFORMATION ON.
LIKE I SAID, ON CERTAIN VEHICLES WHERE THEY'RE AT.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES.
ANY ADDITIONAL VEHICLES THAT WE WOULD ADD INTO OUR FLEET THAT HAVE CAMERAS WOULD BE A BENEFIT.
AND TO BOLSTER MY ARGUMENT, IS THAT ACCURATE STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT CRIMES AT HOTELS, AND THAT SUBSTANTIATED BY A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF ARRESTS THAT WE MAKE OUT OF SOME OF OUR HOTELS.
IS THAT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT? YES, SIR, IT IS. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THIS PROBABLY I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PLACE TO ASK IT, BUT ONLY HAVING TWO CARS OUT AT A TIME IN A 40 SOMETHING SQUARE MILE CITY WITH AS MANY HOTELS AS WE HAVE AND MOTELS AND THE AMOUNT OF CRIME AT THOSE HOTELS AND MOTELS.
I'M CURIOUS OF A THOUGHT OF MAYBE ADDING A BARE MINIMUM TWO MORE CARS.
SO THERE'LL BE THREE CARS ON EACH TIME WITH EACH SHIFT WITH WITH THE CAMERA READERS.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I ACTUALLY WANTED TO ASK, MS. ANDERSON, CINDY ANDERSON FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THIS CONTRACT DESIGNED SO THAT THERE'S AN ABILITY TO EXPAND OR MAKE MODIFICATIONS ON A PER UNIT BASIS? YES, SIR, IT IS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR CONTRACTOR HERE WITH US.
I'M SORRY, OUR VENDOR REP HERE WITH US.
AND I'M SURE HE CAN VERY EASILY ADD IT WHILE WE'RE SITTING HERE IF WE NEEDED TO.
I'VE HAD THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SEE THESE LICENSE PLATE READERS IN ACTION.
AND I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE A DISSERVICE TO THIS BY ASKING THESE THE CAPTAIN AND CONGRATULATIONS, LIEUTENANT SMITH, SOON TO BE CAPTAIN, THESE TWO CAPTAINS TO COME AND TRY TO EXPLAIN THE VALUE IN WORDS.
THE AMOUNT OF SUCCESSES, IT'S THE SUCCESS STORIES FROM THESE CAMERAS IS JUST MIND BOGGLING.
COUNCIL I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THIS, BUT MAYBE THE CLEANEST WAY WOULD BE FIND OUT HOW THE DISCUSSION GOES IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A WILLINGNESS AND WHAT WE DO IS END UP BRINGING BACK AND MODIFYING THE CONTRACT TO INCLUDE THOSE TERMS.
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SHOULD COUNCIL SO PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION? THANK YOU. THAT'S HOW WE GO ABOUT IT.THANK YOU. SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE.
SO, DOCTOR, CAN YOU GO NEXT, PLEASE? SURE. THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
JUST A FEW DIFFERENT QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A COST DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE FIRST AND THE SECOND OPTION.
COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT THAT COST DIFFERENTIAL WOULD LOOK LIKE? YEAH, WITHOUT LOOKING AT MY NOTES, MA'AM, REAL QUICK, IT'S ABOUT 340,000 DIFFERENCE.
AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE ONGOING COSTS ANNUALLY? SO THE ANNUAL COST FOR SOME INTERNET AND CONNECTIVITY TYPE STUFF IS ABOUT 10,000 PER YEAR.
OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW THIS IS COVERED, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND CLARIFY.
I KNOW THAT THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE THAT IT WOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
IS THAT ACCURATE? I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO MS. ANDERSON ON THAT ONE.
[INAUDIBLE]. YES, WE WORKED IT OUT WITH FINANCE AND IT WOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF A FINANCE QUESTION, BUT IF SO, ARE WE STILL WITHIN OUR RESERVE PERCENTAGE THAT WE HAVE MADE SURE THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL CONTINUES TO OPERATE OUT OF.
YES. AND I JUST ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IT IS A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
AND SO WE ARE PAID THROUGH THE FIVE YEARS.
THE ONLY ONGOING COST WOULD BE THROUGH THE VERIZON AIR CARD IF WE WERE TO DO THE EXPANSION.
OTHERWISE, THERE'S NO ONGOING COSTS WITH VIGILANT.
AND THEN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, MORE SO ON THE STATS FOR THIS.
SO DO WE HAVE NUMBERS? AND IF YOU DON'T TOTALLY FIND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF QUALITY EXAMPLES HERE IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT DO WE HAVE STATS FOR HOW MANY FOLKS WE'VE CAUGHT OVER THE YEARS WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM? STRICTLY RELATED TO THE SLIDE I HAD UP.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR STOLEN VEHICLES ONLY.
SO OVERALL STATS FOR HOW MANY ARRESTS OR INVESTIGATIONS ASSISTED WITH ITS I CAN COMFORTABLY SAY THAT ANY INVESTIGATION IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, I WOULD SAY THAT LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE A TOOL WE USE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND ACTUALLY, THAT ANSWERED MY NEXT ONE, WHICH WAS BASICALLY, DO WE FEEL THAT EXPANDING THE PROGRAM WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE THE SAFETY? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT DOES.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
DEFINITELY. FROM THE EXAMPLES AND THE STATS, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CRIME FIGHTING TOOL.
BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT HAVE COME TO ME.
SO OF THE CRIMES THAT WE'VE SOLVED AND THE CASES THAT WERE INVESTIGATED USING THESE IMAGES THAT WERE CAUGHT FROM THE TRAFFIC EIGHT LPR AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS THEY IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE IN THE HUNDREDS HOW MANY IMAGES ARE TAKEN PER YEAR AND HOW MANY MILLIONS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT OF OF CARS.
CURRENTLY WITH OUR WITH OUR SYSTEM, WE ARE AVERAGING I DID THE LAST FIVE MONTHS AND IT'S RIGHT AROUND 6,000,100 PER MONTH. SO I'D HAVE TO DO THE MATH FOR THAT TO GIVE YOU THE ANNUAL NUMBER.
I READ SOMEWHERE THAT IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 80 MILLION A YEAR ACTUALLY.
AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I'M WONDERING HOW MANY OF THESE IMAGES ARE OF JUST PEOPLE COMMUTING OR TOURISTS DRIVING THROUGH, AND IN WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT WOULD BE CRIMINALS VERSUS JUST DRIVERS OR COMMUTERS? YOU DO SEE IMAGES OF SIMILARITY AND IT IS EVIDENT THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE USING MAJOR THOROUGHFARES LIKE PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC PERCENTAGES FOR YOU THAT WOULD LET YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE FOLKS ARE COMMUTERS, DAILY COMMUTERS, AND HOW MANY ARE CRIMINALS. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN YOU ANALYZE THE DATA.
AND JUST IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, 80 MILLION AND A FEW HUNDRED CRIMES IS IS A PRETTY GOOD PROPORTION.
YOU CAN JUST KIND OF GET THE IDEA FROM THERE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THOSE LOCATIONS WERE CHOSEN FOR THE FIXED DEVICES?
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YES, MA'AM. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.SO WE CHOSE THESE AREAS, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE OF THE CRIME TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND THE THE GROWTH IN NORTH COUNTY AND THE WAY PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING THROUGH ON THOROUGHFARES. SO WE WANTED TO REALLY COVER THE FIVE QUARTER, AS I DESCRIBED IT, WITH THE ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT GROUPS.
THEY TEND TO TRAVEL THROUGHOUT THE STATE FROM THE SOUTH ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH.
IT'S A PLACE WHERE WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE COMING AND GOING.
AND WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO TO VICTIMIZE US HERE OR LEAVING.
SO THEN WOULD YOU SAY IF THE OF THE PEOPLE, THE SUSPECTS ARRESTED THROUGH USING THIS CRIME FIGHTING TOOL, ARE THEY PRIMARILY PEOPLE TRAVELING THROUGH OR INTO CARLSBAD? CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT.
SO THERE'S THE ISSUE OF THE IN GENERAL, CAPTURING OF IMAGES OF JUST REGULAR, REGULAR FOLKS.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AS A CONCERN JUST IN GENERAL SURVEILLANCE SOCIETY CONCERNS AND JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DATA IS VERY SECURE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE SLIDE AND THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE POLICY AND THE AUDITING.
CAN YOU JUST IN JUST PIGGYBACKING OFF OF SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A BIT ABOUT THE AUDITS AND WHEN THOSE WILL BE RELEASED OR DO THEY COME TO COUNCIL? HOW ARE THOSE AUDITS DISTRIBUTED? CURRENTLY THE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MONTHLY AUDIT, THE ADMINISTRATIVE LIEUTENANT CONDUCTS THAT AUDIT, FORWARDS IT TO A CAPTAIN FOR REVIEW, AND THEN FORWARDS IT TO THE ENTIRE COMMAND STAFF WHERE AND THEN IS PUT INTO A FOLDER ESSENTIALLY FOR A TIME WHERE IF WE EVER NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT, IF WE EVER RECEIVE INFORMATION WHERE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AUDIT AGAIN AND THEN THE BI-ANNUAL ONE AGAIN, LIKE I EXPLAINED, IS DONE SEPARATELY FROM OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, LIEUTENANT, THAT HE OR SHE SELECTS TEN RANDOM INQUIRIES WITHIN THAT LAST SIX MONTHS, VERIFIES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE CALL FOR SERVICE OR WHATEVER THE REASON, AN INCIDENT IN CASE NUMBER THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT TO ENSURE THAT THE INQUIRY IS BEING USED FOR LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.
THAT REPORT THEN IS FORWARDED TO THE CAPTAIN UP TO OUR CHAIN OF COMMAND AND IS PUT INTO THE SAME FOLDER, ESSENTIALLY WHERE OUR MONTHLY AUDITS ARE HELD. AND THEN WE HOLD ON TO THOSE.
OK AND WHAT ARE THE ERROR RATES ON MAYBE SOME SOME HITS ON THE ON THESE CAR THESE LICENSE PLATE READERS? MAYBE SOMETIMES THE NUMBERS THE LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS ARE INCORRECT.
I HAD READ AN ARTICLE THAT SAID THAT THE ERROR RATE WAS KIND OF HIGH.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS A STANDALONE SYSTEM COMPARED TO ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT SYSTEMS AS WELL.
AND THE FIXED LICENSE PLATE READERS JUST TAKE PICTURES OF PLATES, LICENSE PLATES.
SO IN ORDER FOR AN EMPLOYEE TO ACCESS THIS PROGRAM, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CASE NUMBER OR AN INCIDENT NUMBER TO QUERY THIS AND GET INTO THE SYSTEM IN A LOG IN SO WE CAN TRACK WHEN THEY THEY'VE LOGGED IN.
AND TO DO ANY OTHER WORK OUTSIDE OF JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA OF A LICENSE PLATE, THEY HAVE TO EXIT OUT OF THAT SYSTEM, GO INTO ANOTHER SYSTEM AND DO THEIR INVESTIGATIVE QUERY THERE. SO I HOPE THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
THANK YOU. YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE BEEN RECEIVING AND HEARD ABOUT WERE ADDRESSED THROUGH OUR POLICIES AND THE WAY THAT WE AS A CITY HANDLE SOME OF OUR DATA PROTECTION AND DATA SECURITY.
ONE OTHER QUESTION RELATED TO THE EXPANSION AND THE ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS.
WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT THESE OTHER LOCATIONS? ARE THE ROUTES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE CAMERAS AT NOT NOT ADEQUATE? SO KIND OF AS I DESCRIBED EARLIER, THERE'S WE HAVE THEM GOING IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS RIGHT NOW AS THIS AS WE GROW, WE HAVE TO GROW WITH THE SYSTEM AND THE GROWTH, THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.
NOW WE WANT TO CAPTURE THE OTHER DIRECTIONS OF THAT INTERSECTION.
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SO WE HAD TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.AND AS WE GROW, OUR OPTIONS GROW, THE SYSTEMS GET BETTER.
SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE LOCATIONS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST PLACE TO PUT THESE GREAT ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE THE CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE MOVABLE OR ONCE THEY'RE ON THERE, WE CAN ONLY JUST REPLACE THE TECHNOLOGY.
SO THOSE FIXED CAMERAS AGAIN ARE PERMANENTLY AFFIXED TO LIGHT STANDARDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
OUR MOBILE CAMERAS ARE PERMANENTLY FIXED TO A VEHICLE AND IF THAT VEHICLE WAS TO BE INVOLVED IN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, WE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THAT EQUIPMENT AND THEN INSTALL IT ONTO ANOTHER VEHICLE.
IT NEEDS IT HAS TO HAVE AN INSTALLATION PROCESS TO IT.
GREAT. AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT JEFF SAID, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT IF WE LOOKED AT THESE AREAS, WE PUT THEM IN AND IT WASN'T YIELDING, THE RESULTS WE THOUGHT WAS WHAT WE SHOULD BE GETTING.
WE'D OBVIOUSLY LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
SO WE'RE OPEN TO DOING THAT IF NEEDED.
AND THESE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING ARE REALLY RELATED TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE LOCATING THESE IN THE RIGHT PLACE, TO USE THEM AS CRIME FIGHTING TOOLS AND BEING VERY CAREFUL WITH OUR DATA TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T GET INTO THE WRONG HANDS.
IT'S NOT ACCESSED INCORRECTLY.
IT'S NOT BEING ABUSED IN ANY WAY BECAUSE ALL THE DATA THAT'S BEING COLLECTED BY US, BY EVERYONE FROM APPLE TO GOOGLE TO LICENSE PLATE READERS, IS CAN BE CONCERNING FOR PEOPLE.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT COST, BECAUSE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED COST AS WELL.
AND I HAVE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM AND ALSO THE EXPANSION.
ONCE THESE CAMERAS ARE INSTALLED, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S EVERY FIVE YEARS WE'RE DOING A REPLACEMENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? AT THIS POINT.
IT CHANGES THINGS A LITTLE BIT FOR US, MAKES US A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO IT'S FIVE YEARS, THE REPLACEMENT COST OF THE TECHNOLOGY, OF THE ACTUAL CAMERAS, AND THEN THERE'S THE ONGOING INTERNET THAT'S 10,000 A YEAR APPROXIMATELY FOR THE CURRENT AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE.
YES, MA'AM. AND THEN THE ADDITION, IF WE WERE TO ADD MORE CAMERAS, WOULD THE INTERNET COSTS GO UP AS WELL? IT ACTUALLY STAYS THE SAME.
DO YOU HAVE MORE ON THAT, JEFF? OH, THE THE COST OF THE INTERNET RIGHT NOW IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET.
THE $10,000 PER YEAR WOULD BE FOR THE EXPANSION.
SO. IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING ABOUT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST, I'M DEFINITELY VERY CONCERNED ABOUT COSTS AND EXPANSION.
OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO REPLACE OUR TECHNOLOGY WHEN IT WHEN IT STARTS TO FAIL ON US.
BUT THE EXPANSION IS WHY I'M ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. MR. NORBY. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
SO NON-POLICE BACKGROUND AND JUST KIND OF A GENERAL QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE MOBILE CAMERAS, LICENSE PLATE READERS, AND THEN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE DISPATCH VIDEO, AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES LICENSE PLATE READER AS WELL.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO? I'LL DO MY BEST HERE.
SO THE FOUR CAMERAS WE HAVE MOUNTED ON THE VEHICLES NOW ARE A 360 DEGREE VIEW.
[INAUDIBLE] IN IF YOU WANT THAT CAPTURE PLATES AS WE'RE DRIVING AROUND THE CAMERA THAT'S GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS A FORWARD FACING ONLY CAMERA THAT THAT WOULD CAPTURE THE LICENSE PLATE THAT WAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THAT REALLY IS A GOOD WAY TO HELP ME WITH WITH THE DIFFERENCE.
WAS THERE MORE INFORMATION? JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THE CAMERAS IN OUR PRESENTATION ACTUALLY TAKE A PHOTO OF THE LICENSE PLATE, WHERE IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION YOU'LL SEE IT'S VIDEO.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PICTURE AND VIDEO.
BUT GENERALLY THERE'S ALL AROUND VERSUS JUST FORWARD FACING, SO.
SO IN MY CAREER, WHICH IS BEEN WORKING, FIRST OF ALL, COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR EIGHT YEARS WORKING ON REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT ARE FORWARD THINKING AND LARGE, AS WELL AS A RAIL CONSULTANT THAT THE NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT PUTS OUT A STATISTIC
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EVERY YEAR, AND THAT STATISTIC IS REQUIRED TO BE INCLUDED IN ANY LARGE RAIL OR ROAD PROJECT IN THE UNITED STATES THAT GOES STATEWIDE.AND THAT STATISTIC IS CALLED THE STATISTICAL VALUE OF A HUMAN LIFE.
AND SO WE HAVE TO PLAN TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ACCIDENTAL OR PURPOSEFUL TAKING OF A LIFE, THAT THE VALUE OF THAT LIFE IS BETWEEN NINE AND $12 MILLION ON PROJECTS.
IF WE CAN SAVE A LIFE NOW THAT STATISTICAL VALUE IS NOT THE EARNING POTENTIAL OF THAT LIFE.
SO THE COST OF TAXPAYERS AND SOCIETY TO RESPOND TO THAT INCIDENT.
RIGHT. IN TOTALITY, WHETHER IT'S INSURANCE LAWSUITS, CORRECTIVE ACTIONS, WHATEVER.
AND SO I AM AWARE OF SEVERAL OF THE INCIDENCES THAT THE LICENSE PLATE READERS HAVE HELPED US APPREHEND MURDERERS, ABSOLUTE MURDERERS.
AND I AM CONVINCED THAT THROUGH THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF APPLICATION OF THESE LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT WE HAVE DONE FAR MORE THAN SAVE ONE LIFE. OF COURSE, WE CAN'T LOOK INTO THE FUTURE.
WE ARE TAKING A SUPPOSITION OR A GUESS OF BEHAVIOR.
AND SO WHETHER THE COST IS A MILLION OR TWO OR THREE, IF WE LOOK AT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND IF WE CAN JUST SAVE ONE LIFE, WE KNOW THE VALUE OF THAT LIFE IS BETWEEN NINE AND $12 MILLION ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE ON JUST ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO I ALSO KNOW THAT THE MOST SACRED TRUST THAT YOU HAVE IS, WITH YOUR COMMUNITY.
AND YOUR COMMUNITY BACKS THE POLICE AND WE BACK THE POLICE.
AND CARLSBAD HAS HAD A FANTASTIC HISTORY OF 70 YEARS OF GREAT COMMUNITY TRUST.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND SO WHEN NEW TOOLS BECOME AVAILABLE AND THAT'S THAT'S REALLY ALL THIS IS, RIGHT? I TALK ABOUT SOCIETY CREATING NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT MAKES OUR LIFE BETTER, WHETHER IT'S ELECTRIC CARS OR SOLAR PV.
THIS IS THE SAME WAY. AND I LOOK AROUND TODAY, NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I SEE TESLAS HAVE SENTRY MODE, WHICH IS GREAT, RIGHT? ALL THESE PICTURES BEING TAKEN TO PROTECT NOT ONLY THAT CAR, BUT EVERYTHING THE CAMERA SEES AROUND THAT CAR WHEN THERE IS CRIME GOING ON.
AND IT'S BEEN A REALLY, REALLY EFFECTIVE TOOL.
I LOOK AT COMPANIES LIKE VIASAT AND SPACE X PROVIDING INTERNET AND JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PUSHED OUT IN TERMS OF MEDIA IN CARLSBAD TODAY WAS ONE OF THE LARGEST CYBER ATTACKS ON OUR COUNTRY, WAS AGAINST VIASAT BY RUSSIA DURING THE FIRST DAYS OF THE UKRAINIAN WAR.
AND SO THESE ARE JUST NEW TECHNOLOGIES, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, WHETHER IT'S THE OLD BILLY CLUB OR IT'S A GUN OR IT'S A CAR OR WHATEVER WE PROVIDE YOU AND GIVE YOU POLICE POWER THAT IT IS USED RESPONSIBLY AND THAT YOU RETAIN THAT PUBLIC TRUST.
BECAUSE IF IT'S EVER LOST, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A SOCIETY I WANT TO LIVE IN.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO TO GO BEYOND BASICALLY AND WHATEVER IS REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS KNOW AND THAT YOU ARE DEMONSTRATING THAT THAT DATA THAT YOU COLLECT AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU COLLECT THAT IS SO USEFUL REMAINS NOT A TOOL THAT'S BEING USED IN THE WRONG WAY OR VIOLATES THE PUBLIC TRUST SOMEHOW. BUT I THINK THE MAIN THING THAT I WANT TO CONVEY IS JUST IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY.
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE NEW TOOLS TO FIGHT CRIME THAT ARE VERY EFFECTIVE.
I'M SURE WHEN THERE'S A VENDOR OUT THERE THAT PRODUCES A CAMERA THAT HAS.
SO A TEN OR 15 YEAR LIFESPAN WILL GO WITH THAT.
THERE IS A COST, BUT THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS IS JUST PARAMOUNT.
AND SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF? THANK YOU, MR. NORBY. JUST SO WE HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING, MR. BLACKBURN HAD SOME COMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING.
DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO HIS COMMENTS AND ADDITIONAL CARS OR.
YOU KNOW THAT HAVING THREE OR FOUR OUT THERE INSTEAD OF TWO OUT THERE.
SO YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT COME BACK? I DEFINITELY WOULD, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
I'M DOING IT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, NOT THE NEXT AGENDA.
AM I IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? I JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT THIS OFF TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AND THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S ADDRESSING.
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AND SO IF THE MOTION IS INCLUDING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT MOTION.OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA, YOUR FINAL COMMENTS.
SO I DEFINITELY CAN SEE THE VALUE IN THE CRIME FIGHTING TOOL THAT WE HAVE NOW.
AND AS I SAID, WE ALWAYS NEED TO UPGRADE OUR TECHNOLOGY WHEN ITS LIFESPAN EXPIRES.
SO I DEFINITELY CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE CRIMES AND WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND REPLACE OUR CURRENT EQUIPMENT.
MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE ADDITION OF THE 43 NEW ONES AND I AM JUST NOT SOLD THAT WE SHOULD BE EXPANDING THE PROGRAM, CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF COMMUNITY DISTRUST AND WAITING FOR THE AUDITS, WAITING FOR MORE INFORMATION.
SO I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF EXPANDING THE PROGRAM AT THIS TIME, BUT I AM IN SUPPORT OF OPTION ONE.
AND I HAVE SEEN DEFINITELY OVER THE YEARS HOW EFFECTIVE THIS TOOL HAS BEEN.
I THINK THAT FOR ME, THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY IS PARAMOUNT.
I MEAN, I HAVE GROWN UP HERE, SO I KNOW I FEEL SAFE WHEN I'VE WALKED AROUND.
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR KIDS ARE PEOPLE JUST IN GENERAL, THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO FEEL THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING AROUND AND DOING THEIR BUSINESS HERE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
AND SO I DO AGREE THAT AS LONG AS WE ARE TRANSPARENT WITH THE PROCESS, WHICH WE'RE MAKING SURE OF, WITH THE POLICY THAT WE'VE ENACTED AND THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO DIALOG WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THIS, THAT I AM SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING THIS FORWARD.
I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY, BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD BE OPEN TO EXPANDING THE PROGRAM IF IT WOULD HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO COMMIT TO THE COMMUNITY SAFETY. THANK YOU.
OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FINAL COMMENTS, MR. BLACKBURN? NO. JUST READY TO MAKE THE MOTION.
OKAY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO WEIGH IN BRIEFLY.
OBVIOUSLY, SAFETY IS JOB NUMBER ONE.
AND WHEN YOU THINK OF AN OFFICER IS JUST AS AN INDIVIDUAL, IT'S EVERY TOOL YOU GIVE THAT OFFICER MAGNIFIES WHAT HE OR SHE CAN DO. AND SO I AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR OVER 50 SOME YEARS THROUGH PRIOR BUSINESSES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO MY HEART GOES OUT TO THESE GENTLEMEN AND WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO AND AGAIN, I MEAN, THAT'S TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THIS INVESTMENT.
IF I WAS GOING TO ADD ANYTHING TO TONIGHT AND I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT IS I WOULD LIKE SIGNS ON I-5.
YOU'RE WELCOME HERE IN CARLSBAD.
AND SO SO ANYWAY, I SUPPORT WHAT MR. BLACKBURN WAS SAYING.
SO MR. BLACKBURN, I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT FROM THERE.
SECOND. SO I JUST WANT TO ASK TO MAKE SURE TO STAFF ANYTHING MORE TO [INAUDIBLE].
I'M SORRY, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS CONTAINED WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT.
ALSO, WE HAVE A NEGOTIATED AND EXECUTED CONTRACT BEFORE YOU.
OKAY. YOU SAID THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS.
YOU SAID THERE'S TWO CHOICES. I SAID SUBSECTION NUMBER TWO, THAT WASN'T SUFFICIENT.
CLARIFICATION WAS THAT SUFFICIENT TO SAY SUBSECTION NUMBER TWO? YES. OKAY.
THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM STAFF HERE.
THANK YOU FOR MAYOR HALL. I JUST SPOKE WITH OUR VENDOR.
AND THESE ADDITIONAL CARS CAN BE A STANDALONE ITEM SEPARATE FROM THE CONTRACT.
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SECOND. AND THAT'S WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT.ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE. THAT'S THE NEXT MOTION.
PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES FOUR ONE.
MY NEXT MOTION IS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN THAT WE ADD [INAUDIBLE] FOR TWO ADDITIONAL PATROL CARS.
MAYOR MAY I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE VOTE AND LOCK IT IN? SURE. SO THIS THIS MOTION IS TO DO THAT TO TO ADD THE TO I'M NOT I THINK I'D LIKE TO HAVE LIKE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND TO THAT, TO GIVE US A RATIONALE TO KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE.
TO KNOW ALL OF THAT BEFORE I CAST A VOTE ON IT.
AND RATHER THAN THIS APPROACH COUNCIL, WHAT I'D SUGGEST, AND THAT'S WHAT I HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IS WE CAN RETURN BACK AT A SEPARATE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH THAT ADDENDUM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S THE CLEANEST WAY TO APPROACH THIS.
I'M SORRY. EQUIPPING TWO ADDITIONAL CARS.
ANY OTHER COMMENT? PLEASE VOTE. AGAIN PASSES FOUR ONE.
DON'T STOP THE MEETING I'M JUST GONNA RUN TO THE BATHROOM.
OKAY. MR. BLACKBURN STEPPING OFF THE DICE JUST MOMENTARILY.
[11. AGREEMENT FOR A REPLACEMENT COMPUTER-AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM WITH THE OPTION FOR AN IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM]
OPTIONS FOR AN IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM.GO AHEAD AND PROCEED. MR. BLACKBURN WILL BE BACK MOMENTARILY.
OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR HALL AND RESPECTIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M A CAPTAIN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I CURRENTLY OVERSEE THE SUPPORT OPERATIONS DIVISION WITHIN THE PD, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION DISPATCH RECORDS, AS WELL AS OUR PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE UNIT.
TONIGHT, I HAVE WITH ME OUR PUBLIC SAFETY I.T.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US TONIGHT IS OUR REPS FROM MOTOROLA, ROBIN GUNTHER, AS WELL AS [INAUDIBLE] . SO OUR PRESENTATION, WE WILL HAVE AN OVERVIEW WHICH IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE IDENTIFIED NEED FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR CURRENT CAD SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS IN THE CORE TEAM FORMATION.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE CAME TOGETHER AND PUT AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF WORK INTO THE FORMATION OF THIS TEAM TO PROPOSE THIS PROJECT TO YOU TONIGHT. WE'LL COVER THE VENDOR RESPONSES TO THE RFP AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER THE FEATURES AND BENEFITS FOR THE SELECTED VENDOR AND THE OPTIONS FOR THE IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM. AND THEN FINALLY WE'LL GO OVER THE COSTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.
SO OUR CURRENT COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM IS PROVIDED TO US BY TIBURON, PROCURED THE SYSTEM 17 YEARS AGO IN 2005 AND IN 2019 THERE WAS AN IDENTIFIED NEED TO REPLACE THE SYSTEM.
TIBURON WAS PURCHASED BY A COMPANY CALLED CENTRAL SQUARE AND WE WERE NOTIFIED BY THAT COMPANY THAT THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE DEVELOPING TIBURON OR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL UPDATES.
SO IN 2019, COUNCIL GAVE US AN APPROVAL TO.
HIRE A CONSULTING GROUP, DELTA WORKS AND WITH THEIR INSISTENCE IN JANUARY OF 2020.
WE CREATED RFP 2013 TO SELECT A NEW CAD VENDOR.
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DEMONSTRATIONS. SO THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, PROPOSALS AND CORE TEAM.THE CONSULTANT, AS I STATED WITH DELTA WORKS, THEY ASSISTED WITH THE RFP CREATION, THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION AND WILL ASSIST WITH THE FUTURE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS. THE CORE TEAM CONSISTED OF SOME KEY PEOPLE WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WERE ABLE TO SELECT THE TOP VENDOR.
THE CORE TEAM NARROWED DOWN THE EIGHT RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE RFP DOWN TO THREE VENDORS AND HELD THE ONSITE PRESENTATIONS FOR THE TOP THREE FINALISTS AND WERE ABLE TO CONDUCT SOME ON SITE VISITS AS WELL.
THIS WAS DURING COVID, SO THERE WAS SOME LIMITATIONS, BUT THE ON SITE VISITS WERE ABLE TO LET OUR CORE TEAM LOOK AT THE FEATURES AND BENEFITS WHICH JAVIER WILL GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT LATER. SO OUR VENDOR RESPONSE IN ONSITE DEMONSTRATIONS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CORE TEAM CONSISTED OF A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE TO INCLUDE DISPATCHERS, COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS, PATROL OFFICERS THAT JOINED UP WITH OUR INITIAL CORE TEAM BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THESE PEOPLE ARE THE END USERS OF THIS PROGRAM.
AFTER DEMONSTRATIONS, IT WAS CLEAR THERE WERE TWO TOP FINALISTS VENDORS.
AND THE FINAL ONE WAS MOTOROLA.
BASED OFF OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS AND THE FACT THAT MOTOROLA HAD SOME KEY BENEFITS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO, AS WELL AS AN OPTION FOR A HYBRID OR CLOUD SOLUTION.
MOTOROLA WAS CHOSEN AS THE TOP VENDOR.
ONE OF THE KEY THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT MOTOROLA IS THAT.
THEY ALSO ALREADY HAVE INSTALLATIONS WITHIN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
MAYOR PRO TEM MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
CAD SYSTEMS. IF YOU COULD GET JUST A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC, WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.
THE CAD SYSTEM THAT WE ENDED UP GOING WITH IS THE CLOUD BASED SYSTEM FOR MOTOROLA.
IT'S THE PREMIER ONE CLOUD SYSTEM.
WITH IT COMES MOBILE AND HANDHELD.
WHEN WE DID SOME OF THE ON SITE VISITS AND THE DEMONSTRATIONS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STOOD OUT WAS THE ABILITY TO GO FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] TO A HANDHELD OR CELL PHONE APPLICATION SEAMLESSLY BACK AND FORTH, AND ULTIMATELY TO THE DISPATCHERS IN THE FIELD.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE THING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT FOR US.
AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LOCATION AND MAPPING UPGRADES.
WE USE [INAUDIBLE] MAPS THAT ARE DEVELOPED IN-HOUSE, BUT THE TURN BY TURN ASPECT IS NOT THERE.
THIS FEATURE ALSO GIVES US THE ABILITY TO LEVERAGE OTHER MAPS SUCH AS THE GOOGLE MAPS, THE APPLE MAPS, THINGS THAT FOLKS ARE FAMILIAR WITH AS WELL AS GIVING THE TURN BY TURN.
ANOTHER IMPLEMENTATION FEATURE IS THE RADIO AND 911 INTEGRATION OF THE SYSTEM.
EXCUSE ME. I'M JUST GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU.
WHEN YOU SAY CAD, WILL YOU SAY COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH FOR THE PUBLIC? AND WHEN YOU SAY AVL, AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LOCATORS BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THOSE MEAN.
YES, NOT A PROBLEM. AND SO WITH THE AUTOMATIC AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LOCATION SERVICE, WE CAN THEN TRACK NOT JUST WHERE THE VEHICLE IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THIS IS THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.
I'LL SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC IN A FUTURE SLIDE, BUT THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO TAKE MULTIPLE FEEDS OF INFORMATION AND ALLOW COMMAND STAFF TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS IN REAL TIME.
ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THIS IS LEGACY DATA QUERY.
AND SO WHAT THAT IS, IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THAT YOU'VE HAD FOR 17 YEARS, ALL THAT DATA THAT'S HOUSED WITHIN THAT SYSTEM, AND NOW YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW SYSTEM THAT'S A BLANK SLATE AND HAS NOTHING IN IT.
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HOW DO YOU LEVERAGE THAT LEGACY DATA? SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE VENDOR TO CREATE AN INTERFACE AND INTEGRATION THAT WHEN WE HAVE THIS BRAND NEW BLANK SYSTEM, IT STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND INCORPORATE THE DATA THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY PREMISE HISTORY, ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED, OTHER INTERACTIONS IN THE PAST CAN COME FORWARD AND THEN WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A BRAND NEW SYSTEM.SOMETIMES BRINGING IN OLD DATA INTO A BRAND NEW SYSTEM IS VERY COST PROHIBITIVE.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, SOME OF THE DATA IS NOT VERY CLEAN.
ANOTHER KEY COMPONENT IS WHAT'S CALLED COMMAND CENTRAL COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS A SERVICE THAT IF WE CHOOSE ONE OF THE OPTIONS, WHICH IS THE IN-CAR VIDEO PORTION OF IT, WILL COME AS PART OF THE SYSTEM.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT GIVES CITIZENS THE ABILITY TO, ONE, REGISTER THEIR CAMERA SYSTEMS. THIS IS NOT JUST CITIZENS, BUT BUSINESSES AS WELL, REGISTER THEIR CAMERA SYSTEMS WITH US.
SO WE'RE AWARE WHAT VIDEO SYSTEMS ARE OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC.
THIS VIDEO IS THEN LOGGED IN THE CLOUD IN THEIR COMMAND CENTRAL EVIDENCE CLOUD APPLICATION, SO THAT WE CAN THEN PROCESS THAT INFORMATION, ADD IT TO A REPORT IF WE NEED IT TO VARIOUS MODULES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE COMMAND CENTRAL COMMUNITY AND THEN COMMAND CENTRAL ANALYTICS, JUST THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT DO YOU DO WITH ALL THIS DATA WHEN YOU BRING IN ALL THESE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND ALL THESE REPORTS, HOW DO YOU CREATE INTELLIGENT DASHBOARDS THAT WE CAN USE TO THEN REPORT BACK TO YOU OR MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS IN TERMS OF WHERE WE NEED BETTER PETROLEUM, BETTER POLICING? THAT'S THE COMPONENT OF THE ANALYTICS PLUS.
AND THEN I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT INTERFACES.
WE HAVE SO MANY INTERFACES WHERE I MENTIONED THAT THE CAD SYSTEM IS VERY COMPLEX.
WE HAVE SO MANY INTERFACES IN AN ENVIRONMENT SUCH AS A DISPATCH CENTER.
WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THOSE CLEANLY INTO THE SYSTEM.
ONE EXAMPLE I WOULD SAY IS TODAY A DISPATCHER LOOKING UP A REPORT ON, LET'S SAY, A CRIMINAL HISTORY.
THEY MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
THIS IS KIND OF A THIS IS THE LAYOUT OF WHAT THAT CLOUD ARCHITECTURE LOOKS LIKE.
SO EVERYTHING ON THE LEFT IS THE PORTION THAT THAT IS THE DATA ENTRY, THE QUERIES.
THERE'S ONLY ONE REAL PIECE OF HARDWARE THAT'S INVOLVED IN THIS SOLUTION, WHICH IS THE ANCHOR SERVER, AND THAT'S HOW WE GET THE DATA FROM OUR PREMISES OUT TO THE CLOUD AND BACK. AND SO YOU SEE THAT THERE'S THE COMMAND CENTRAL WHERE USER AT THE TOP LEFT THEN GOES DOWN TO THE DISPATCHER, SHOWS THE MOBILE, WHICH IS THE MDC, AS WELL AS EITHER AN APPLE PHONE OR AN ANDROID PHONE FOR FOR COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE DISPATCHER AND THE OFFICER.
AND BACK AND FORTH LOWER DOWN FROM THAT, YOU HAVE THE STATE SWITCH, WHICH IS HOW WE GET THE RETURNS IN TERMS OF CRIMINAL HISTORY OR DMV RECORDS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE CLOUD SYSTEM, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS, WHICH WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THERE'S MANY DIFFERENCES IN CLOUD APPLICATIONS.
THIS IS THE MICROSOFT AZURE GOVERNMENT CLOUD, WHICH IS THE MOST SECURE CLOUD.
THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT'S BEING LEVERAGED BY THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WHICH IS VIGILANT.
THESE SYSTEMS HAVE DATA ENCRYPTION.
THEY HAVE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR DENIAL OF SERVICES.
SO MOVING ON TO THE SOME OF THE FEATURES OF THE IN-CAR VIDEO.
ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH WITH THIS SOLUTION WAS THE ABILITY TO ADD IN-CAR VIDEO.
AND SO WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR US? THAT GIVES US TRANSPARENCY FOR THE COMMUNITY? A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.
WELL, HOW MUCH IS A VIDEO WORTH? YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT THERE'S NO DENYING WHATEVER HAPPENED BECAUSE THE VIDEO WAS TAKEN ENHANCES OFFICER SAFETY.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CAPABILITIES OF THE SYSTEM HAVING AN LPR COMPONENT.
THAT LPR COMPONENT IS REALLY FORWARD FACING THE CAMERA HAS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND SO IT CAN SCAN AND KNOW THAT THAT'S A PLATE THAT'S IN FRONT OF IT AND AUTOMATICALLY RUN THE QUERY THROUGH VIGILANT.
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WANTED PLATE, THIS IS A STOLEN PLATE, THIS IS A PERSON OF INTEREST.SO AGAIN, REDUCTION IN POLICE DEPARTMENT LIABILITY, OFTENTIMES WHAT YOU'LL HEAR IS SOMEBODY IN THE BACK SEAT WILL SAY, WELL, I WAS THERE WAS ABUSE. SOMETHING HAPPENED WHEN THEY PUT ME IN THE CAR OR ON THE WAY TO EITHER THE HOSPITAL OR A HOLDING CELL, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
THIS KIND OF ELIMINATES THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOW THERE'S THERE'S VIDEO.
THERE'S ACTUAL PROOF THAT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
SO IT'S NOT RECORDING AN EMPTY BACK SEAT AS IT'S RECORDING THE FRONT FORWARD FACING CAMERA.
THERE'S ALSO WHAT ARE KNOWN AS TRIGGERS.
IF AN OFFICER HITS THEIR SIREN, THE CAMERA WILL START RECORDING.
AND IF OFFICER EXCEEDS A CERTAIN SPEED, THE CAMERA WILL START RECORDING.
ANOTHER FEATURE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS ONE OF THE INTEGRATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IF THIS OPTION IS SELECTED, IS THE ABILITY TO TAKE THE VIDEO AND NOT THE OFFICER DOES NOT HAVE TO ADD DEMOGRAPHICS SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE DID WITH THE BODY CAMERAS.
THE CAD CALL FOR SERVICE WILL AUTOMATICALLY MARRY UP TO THE VIDEO.
SO IN THE CLOUD, IT KNOWS THIS WAS OFFICER XYZ, THIS WAS THE TIME, THIS WAS THE INCIDENT.
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS PRESS STOP.
THEY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CALL AND THEN WHENEVER SOMETHING HAPPENS, IT STARTS RECORDING AGAIN.
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS PRESS STOP AND NOTHING ELSE.
WE CAN GIVE THEM ACCESS TO VIDEO EVIDENCE FOR DAYS, WEEKS, HOURS, MINUTES, WHATEVER WE WANT IT TO.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND ANYTHING TO THEM.
IF THEY NEED A COPY, WE CAN GIVE THEM THE PERMISSION TO DOWNLOAD A COPY OR NOT DOWNLOAD A COPY.
IT'S COMPLETELY SECURE, AUDITABLE, EVERYTHING ON THERE.
IT LOOKS OUT THERE, IT CAN DETERMINE THAT THIS IS A PLATE AS OPPOSED TO ANYTHING ELSE.
ONE OF THE CALL, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED EARLIER WAS AROUND THE DIFFERENCES, RIGHT? WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] SYSTEM, THE AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEM ON THESE VEHICLES, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH A PARKING LOT, IN THIS INSTANCE, THE CAMERA'S ONLY GOING TO CAPTURE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF IT.
IN THE [INAUDIBLE] INSTANCE, THE LICENSE PLATE READER INSTANCE, BECAUSE OF THE CAMERAS ALL AROUND THE CAR, IT CAN CAPTURE CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF IT AS WELL AS IN FRONT OF IT OR EVEN PERHAPS BEHIND IT.
SO SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF GOING WITH THE CLOUD IMPLEMENTATION.
YOUR TYPICAL CAD IMPLEMENTATION.
COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH IMPLEMENTATION.
IT COULD TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 2 TO 3 YEARS.
GOING WITH THE CLOUD, NOT HAVING TO PURCHASE A WHOLE BUNCH OF HARDWARE TO SUPPORT THAT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING THIS IN 18 MONTHS OR LESS.
FLEXIBILITY OF THE CLOUD ALLOWS FOR THAT SPEED.
THE IMPLEMENTATION I MENTIONED THE GOVERNMENT CLOUD.
THE ABILITY TO HAVE THIS IN THE CLOUD MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT TIED TO ON PREMISE HARDWARE, EQUIPMENT.
SO AS WE GROW, THE SYSTEM CAN SCALE.
IF WE NEED TO ADD A FUTURE OFFICERS, IF WE NEED TO ADD FUTURE FEATURES, THAT ABILITY FOR BEING IN THE CLOUD GIVES US THE ABILITY TO SCALE AND EVOLVE ALONGSIDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED IN THE FUTURE, INCORPORATE THOSE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE COMING.
THERE'S A LOT COMING THAT THAT THE CLOUD IS LEVERAGING.
AND BEING IN THE CLOUD MAKES US A LITTLE MORE AGILE.
ONE OF THE OTHER FEATURES, TOO, IS, I WOULD SAY.
ON PREMISE CAD COMPUTER AIDED SYSTEMS. DON'T GET UPDATED AS OFTEN BECAUSE IT'S A VERY COMPLEX PROCESS AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE FACTORS OF ALL THE HARDWARE, ALL THE PIECES THAT MAKE THAT WORK.
BEING IN THE CLOUD, IT'S A LITTLE MORE AGILE.
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SOLUTION. SO WITH THAT, THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO A CUTTING EDGE CAD SYSTEM, COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM AND AN IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM FOR YEARS TO COME.SO THIS THIS IS FOUR DIFFERENT SCREENS THAT YOU SEE ON ONE PANE OF GLASS.
THESE INDIVIDUAL PIECES CAN BE GRABBED AND MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL SCREENS.
THE TOP LEFT MAP IS THE MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE ALL OF THE INCIDENTS ARE, WHERE ALL THE VEHICLES ARE.
THE SCREEN BELOW THAT IS THE INTERFACE TO THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH CLOUD INSTANCE THAT SHOWS THE CALLS PENDING THE CALLS THAT ARE ACTIVE ON THE TOP RIGHT WHERE THE VIDEO FEEDS ARE AT.
THOSE CAN BE FEEDS THAT CAN BE BROUGHT IN FROM VARIOUS BUSINESSES, PARTNERS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WHEREVER WE HAVE MOUS, WE CAN ADD THOSE ON THE LEFT THERE.
IF THERE'S HAPPENS TO BE CAMERAS NEARBY, BRING THAT UP ON THE SCREEN.
SO IN THE EVENT THAT A CRIME ANALYST, A DISPATCHER, SOMEBODY IN COMMAND STAFF WANTED TO JUMP ON THE AIR ON THE RADIO AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY, THEY CAN PICK A CHANNEL AND HAVE IT AND GO OVER THE AIR AND TALK.
PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PIECE OF IT.
THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY DEAL WITH ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.
YOU HAVE IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEMS, MOBILE LPR, FIXED LPR, BODY CAMERAS, SMARTPHONE APPLICATIONS, MOBILE RADIOS, DRONES, BROADBAND IN THE CAR.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE BENEFITS TO AN ORGANIZATION.
THEY'RE ALL CRIME FIGHTING TOOLS.
BUT AS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT.
SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT COUNCIL, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
OPTION ONE IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH MOTOROLA FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR CURRENT COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM WITH THE NEW CAD VENDOR, MOTOROLA FOR A TOTAL COST OF $1,856,620.
OPTION TWO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH MOTOROLA TO REPLACE THE CAD, WHICH WAS AN OPTION ONE, AND PURCHASE AN IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,879,018 OVER SIX YEARS, WHICH INCLUDES THE CELLULAR COSTS AND THE MAINTENANCE FEES.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS COULD PROVIDE SOME CHALLENGES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE WANTED TO BREAK DOWN THE PRICING FOR EACH OPTION FOR YOU.
IF YOU LOOK AT OPTION ONE, YOU CAN SEE THE IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE AGREEMENT IN THE FIRST YEAR OF MAINTENANCE IS $1,065,179. BELOW THAT, YOU'LL SEE THE MAINTENANCE FEES FOR YEARS TWO THROUGH SIX.
AND THEN THAT AMOUNTS TO THE $1.8 MILLION OPTION TWO, WHICH IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CAD SYSTEM, AS WELL AS TAKING ON THE IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM.
THE IMPLEMENTATION AND FIRST YEAR MAINTENANCE IS $1,470,652.
IT ALSO HAS THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH MAINTENANCE FOR TWO YEARS, TWO THROUGH SIX, AND THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM, AS WELL AS SOME CELLULAR COSTS FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $2,879,018.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO IS $1,022,398.
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SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU TONIGHT IS NOW THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE REPORT ON THE CAD PROPOSAL, IT'S TO EVALUATE THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS. OPTION ONE IS, LIKE I SAID, THE PURCHASE OF THE MOTOROLA MOTOROLA CAD SYSTEM REPLACEMENT AND THEN OPTION TWO IS THE CAD REPLACEMENT AND THE IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEMS, WHICH WOULD AMOUNT TO 60 IN-CAR VIDEOS.I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR AS A CAPTAIN WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND JAVIER HERE WITH ME FOR US TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU THE MOST CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CAN THAT WILL PROVIDE NOT ONLY SAFETY TO THE COMMUNITY AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS, BUT IT ALSO REDUCES CITY LIABILITY IF WE GO WITH OPTION TWO, WHICH IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
I WILL SAY THAT AS A POLICE OFFICER, USING THE CURRENT CAD SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE THAT IS NOW 17 YEARS OLD, MOVING TO THE ONE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND HAVING OFFICERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCESS CAD ON THEIR CELL PHONES IS A GAME CHANGER.
THEY HAVE TO USE THEIR RADIO TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH OFFICERS, THEIR SUPERVISORS, WITH DISPATCH, TO BE ABLE TO GO ON THEIR PHONE FROM SOMEONE'S HOUSE THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH OR A CONTACT THAT THEY'VE MADE IS JUST GREAT CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY.
IT IMPROVES EFFICIENCY OVERALL AS WELL AS OFFICER SAFETY.
THE FACT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TRACK EACH AND EVERY OFFICER FROM THEIR CELL PHONE AS THEY GET OUT OF THE VEHICLE, WHETHER THEY GET INTO A FOOT PURSUIT, THEY'RE INSIDE OF A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND WE NEED TO FIND THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING FOR COVER DURING A USE OF FORCE.
SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT MOTOROLA IS GIVING US IN THIS OPTION IS EXCEPTIONAL.
THE IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM, I UNDERSTAND THERE IS $1,000,000 COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, THE IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM AND SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IT PROVIDES WITH HAVING THAT FORWARD FACING CAMERA AS WELL AS A CAMERA IN THE BACK.
AS JAVIER MENTIONED, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE HAVE SUSPECTS THAT WE TRANSPORT TO JAIL AND THEY START HITTING THEIR HEAD IN THE BACK OF THE CAR, CAUSING SELF HARM. THE OFFICER WILL HAVE TO PULL OVER, CALL FOR AN OFFICER TO COME ASSIST WITH THEM, CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE.
AND SOMETIMES THESE PEOPLE MAKE CLAIMS OF POLICE BRUTALITY WHEN THERE'S A REAR CAMERA CAPTURING EVERYTHING THAT'S TAKING PLACE THAT A BODY CAMERA CAN'T NECESSARILY CAPTURE JUST THE CITY REDUCTION IN TIME INVESTIGATING THAT, THE STRESS REDUCTION TO THE OFFICER TAKING ON THAT CLAIM AND THE POTENTIAL FOR CITY LIABILITY IS HUGE.
ADDITIONALLY, THE FORWARD FACING CAMERA IN THE IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM RIGHT NOW, WHEN AN OFFICER IS INVOLVED IN A PURSUIT WHICH SOMETIMES CAN GO INTO DIFFERENT COUNTIES, THERE'S NO WAY TO CAPTURE EVERY SINGLE MOVEMENT AND CAPTURE THE REAL TIME VIDEO OF A PURSUIT.
AND AS STATED BY JAVIER, THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE INVOLVED IN THIS SYSTEM THAT WILL ALSO BE RUNNING PLATES NEXT TO YOU OR IN FRONT OF YOU, RATHER FORWARD FACING CAMERA.
THE OFFICER'S SAFETY THAT IT PROVIDES IS ALSO EXCEPTIONAL.
SOMETIMES THEY ARE NOT AFFORDED THAT TIME OR THAT CAPABILITY BECAUSE IT'S A FAST MOVING INCIDENT.
MANY TIMES THEY WILL HAVE TO WALK UP ON A VEHICLE THAT THEY HAD JUST PULLED OVER, NOT REALIZING THAT THE PERSON IS WANTED OR THAT THEY HAD JUST COMMITTED A CRIME AND THEIR VEHICLE IS POTENTIALLY ALREADY ENTERED IN THE LPR SYSTEM.
SO WITH THE OFFICER SAFETY, THE CITY LIABILITY REDUCTION AND THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE MENTIONED IN THIS PRESENTATION, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OPTION TWO AND FOR THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
WE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT DETAIL.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS [INAUDIBLE].
ANYTHING ELSE IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY.
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COUNCIL THAT TO GO FORTH WITH THIS, THAT YOU ASK THE CITY OF CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PUT FORTH A VERY DETAILED DATA PRIVACY PLAN AND AUDIT THE WAY THAT WAS OUTLINED IN CHIEF WILLIAMS, MEMO TO YOU IN JANUARY.AND TO THAT THAT REPORTING COMES BACK NOT JUST STAYS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND GOES TO THE LIEUTENANT AND TO THE CHIEF, BUT COMES BACK AND REPORTS IT TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC. THEY OWE THAT TO US BECAUSE FOR FOUR YEARS, CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT ILLEGALLY SHARED DATA IN VIOLATION OF STATE LAW.
AND IT ONLY BECAME APPARENT WHEN A JOURNALIST FOUND THAT OUT.
SO NOW WE'RE MOVING FROM THE 1990S TECHNOLOGY.
WE NEED TO DO A CLOUD BASED SYSTEM.
NO ONE HAS BEEN ON PREMISE FOR GOD KNOWS HOW YEARS.
THIS IS WHAT THE MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPENT FOR FOUR YEARS AGO WITH OUR TECHNOLOGY.
THIS IS WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED.
IT PROTECTS THE PUBLIC AND IT PROTECTS THE OFFICERS.
I ASKED YOU TO PLEASE CHOOSE OPTION TWO WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE AUDITING TRAILING SYSTEM OF HOW CARLSBAD POLICE SHARES THEIR DATA, USES THEIR DATA, WHO HAS ACCESS TO THE DATA? AND THAT'S PUBLICLY REPORTED.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS MAYOR.
OK, BRINGING IT BACK UP HERE, MR. BLACKBURN. IT SEEMS LIKE THE TIMING IS GOOD.
OUR SAFETY CENTER IS KIND OF DEMOLISHED RIGHT NOW, GOING THROUGH A RENOVATION.
YOU SAID THIS COULD TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
WOULD THAT COINCIDE WITH THE THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AT THE SAFETY CENTER? NOT NECESSARILY.
THAT THAT'S STILL SLATED FOR, BUT ANOTHER TWO YEARS, I BELIEVE, ON THE REMODEL PIECE OF THAT.
WOULD THAT BE A HUGE EXPENSE DOING THAT FOR A FEW MONTHS AND THEN THEN SWITCHING THEM BACK TO THEIR PERMANENT RESIDENCE? NO, BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS CLOUD BASED.
SO THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD ACTUALLY BE A LOT SIMPLER BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED WAS ABOUT THE PRIVACY, THE DATA PROTECTION.
WOULD IT BE SIMILAR TO THE ALPR? IS THAT ALREADY IN PLACE OR DISCUSSED? SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEGOTIATED IN THE CONTRACT WAS THAT ALL OF OUR DATA IS KEPT PRIVATE AND SECURE AND ACCESS IS ONLY DONE BY PERMISSION FROM US.
SO THAT WOULD BE ALL I'LL ASK SOON TO BE ASSISTANT CHIEF THAT QUESTION.
YES, SIR. ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WE TAKE ON, WE WOULD PROVIDE POLICY AND AUDITS AROUND THAT? ABSOLUTELY. SO IT'D BE SIMILAR TO THE ALPR POLICIES? YES, SIR. OKAY.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS. QUESTIONS? DR. BHAT-PATEL. YES, THANK YOU.
I'LL CONTINUE ALONG THOSE PARTICULAR LINES IN TERMS OF A POLICY.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE, KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE POLICY 462, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE CAMERAS? THAT IS CORRECT. GREAT.
SO IT'S COMING FROM THE TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENT CAPITAL FUND.
YES. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE 2019.
SO THERE IS $1 MILLION SET ASIDE SPECIFIC TO THIS YES.
OKAY, AND THEN WHEN I CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BUDGET INCREASE WOULD EITHER BE IF WE LOOKED AT OPTION ONE, 173,000 OR 580,000, IF WE PICKED OPTION TWO.
AND THAT'S ON PAGE SEVEN OF 604.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE, IT SOUNDS LIKE IN 2020, FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND 2024, WE WOULD NEED TO INCREASE OUR STAFF IN THE IT DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO KEEP UP WITH THIS.
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DISPATCH SYSTEM, HELPING OUT WITH TECHNOLOGY AS AS WE'RE KIND OF SHORTHANDED WITH ALL OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE SUPPORT CURRENTLY.OKAY, GREAT. I JUST HAVE COMMENTS.
THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.
AND SO THE BIG DIFFERENCE WITH OPTION NUMBER TWO IS THE 60 VEHICLE IN-CAR VIDEO SYSTEM.
THEY ARE IN THE CAR AND THEY ARE SO THE CAMERA AND CAMERAS WOULD BE FOCUSED ON A SUSPECT THAT IS BEING SOUGHT IN A CRIME RIGHT? SO LIKE YOU'RE FOLLOWING SOMEBODY, THE THE CAMERA IS CAPTURING FOOTAGE OF THAT OR YOU'RE PULLING SOMEONE OVER YOUR STOPPING SOMEBODY VERSUS A FIXED CAMERA.
IS THAT RIGHT? SO THE CAMERA IS FORWARD FACING.
YOU CAN THINK OF IT LIKE A CAMERA THAT WOULD BE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR REARVIEW MIRROR.
SO IT'S FOCUSED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
IT'S GOT ABOUT A 180 DEGREE VIEW.
SO IT'S CAPTURING EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF THE VEHICLE.
THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER CABIN CAMERA THAT WOULD THEN CAPTURE ANYBODY PUT IN THE BACK SEAT.
OTHERWISE IT DOESN'T TURN ON, ONLY THE FRONT CAMERA WILL BE TURNED ON.
SO IF YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND THE CITY, YOU'RE NOT RECORDING NECESSARILY, BUT THE CAMERA ITSELF IS ALWAYS KIND OF RECORDING AND JUST KIND OF STORING IT SOMEWHERE IN THE THE DATABASE THAT IT CAN THAT IT CONTAINS IN THE VEHICLE.
THE OFFICER SAYS, HEY, I WAS IN THAT AREA.
HE CAN GO BACK AND REWIND THAT VIDEO AS HE WAS DRIVING THROUGH THERE AND SEE IF MAYBE HE SEES THE SUSPECT CAR, MAYBE POTENTIALLY CAN IDENTIFY THE DRIVER, SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER ANOTHER NEAT FEATURE ABOUT THIS AS WELL AS THE ABILITY I SHOWED THAT THAT COMMAND CENTRAL AWARE PLATFORM YOU CAN ALSO REAL TIME.
GREAT. SO MY QUESTION WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON DIFFERENTIATING THE FIXED VEHICLE LICENSE PLATE READERS FROM THIS MOBILE APPLICATION THAT'S IN THE VEHICLE THAT IS BEING DRIVEN BY AN OFFICER WHO IS PERHAPS CHASING A SUSPECT OR PULLED SOMEONE OVER.
AND AS YOU RECALL, IF YOU WERE IN THE ROOM, I WASN'T IN SUPPORT OF EXPANDING THAT PROGRAM.
BUT I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THIS AS A CRIME FIGHTING TOOL.
AND I AM MY CONCERNS WITH THE LAST ONE RELATED TO ONE PRIVACY AND USER DATA AND SORRY, THE DATA OF THE PEOPLE'S IMAGES, IMAGES OF CARS AND FOLKS.
SO FOR THIS, THE POLICY THAT WE JUST WERE ASKING ABOUT, IT'S NOT IN THE MOTION.
SO HOW IS THAT? IS THAT AUTOMATICALLY SOMETHING THAT WE DO? I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE PART OF THIS.
THE MOTION. IF WE ARE GOING TO EXPAND AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS NOW, WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING A POLICY BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE VEHICLE LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT ARE CAPTURING JUST STILL IMAGES.
THIS IS VIDEO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STORING.
AND IT'S NOT JUST WHAT'S IN THE AGREEMENT.
THERE'S MORE TO OUR POLICY FOR THE AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LICENSE PLATE READERS, THINGS LIKE THE STORAGE OF THE DATA, HOW LONG IS IT BEING STORED? WHO IS IT BEING SHARED WITH? SO IS THAT IS THAT AUTOMATICALLY BEING DONE? BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED THAT WE'RE JUST NOT DOING THAT.
SO THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS IT'S LAID OUT.
ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD RECORD WOULD BE RETAINED FOR A YEAR.
NOBODY HAS ACCESS TO THAT VIDEO EXCEPT FOR US OR ANYBODY THAT WE GIVE ACCESS TO THAT VIDEO.
FOR EXAMPLE, I MENTIONED THE DA.
THIS IS COMPLETELY CONTAINED IN-HOUSE AND IS PART OF OUR TENANT IN THAT AS YOUR GOVERNMENT CLOUD.
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OKAY. THANK YOU.TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT POLICY AND AUDITS.
I DON'T IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE AND I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER IF OPTION TWO IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE COME BACK IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME WITH A PROPOSED POLICY AND AUDIT PROCESS.
IF THAT IS APPROPRIATE, WE WOULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.
ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE TAKING ON, WE 100% UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN FROM THE CITIZENS, FROM COUNCIL, AND WE WANT TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT.
THE CURRENT STRATEGIC DIGITAL INVESTMENT PROGRAM BUDGET DOES GIVE $1,000,000 TO THIS, BUT THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL BUDGET REQUIREMENT FOR THIS COMING YEAR, 407,000.
DOES THAT INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE HAVE? IT DOES NOT. HOW MUCH WOULD THAT BE THEN? IT DOES NOT. THE ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON WOULD BE DETERMINED AT A LATER TIME IN THE BUDGET COMING IN 23-24.
BUT IT WILL REQUIRE ANOTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF PERSON TO OVERSEE THIS PROGRAM.
IT WOULD BE AN IT STAFF PERSON.
OKAY, GREAT. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTION THANKS.
COMMISSIONER NORBY. THANK YOU.
AND ONE IS THE THE ABILITY TO TURN THE SYSTEM OFF AT THE END OF THE EVENT.
AND THAT'S ALL THE OFFICER HAS TO DO.
AND IT'S KIND OF RECORDED WHERE IT IS, WHO'S THE OFFICER, WHAT HAPPENS.
AND SO IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IN TERMS OF A BACK SEAT OCCUPANT, DOES THE OFFICER HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN THAT CAMERA OFF? THEY DO. BUT AGAIN, IF THAT HAPPENED, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT VIDEO RECORD AFTER THE FACT.
SO IF SOMETHING CAME UP, YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK.
THE OFFICER DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DELETE WHAT THE CAMERA SEES.
WELL, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO KNOW.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT ALL PERFECT.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY IS NOT PERFECT.
AND WE HAVE TEMPERAMENT AND WE HAVE THINGS THAT HAPPEN TO US THAT MAKE US ANGRY.
WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO TURN THIS THING OFF FROM THE VERY, VERY GET GO.
AND I NEED TO YOU KNOW, WE'D WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A GREAT ABILITY TO SEE WHY THAT WAS DONE AND THE ABILITY TO TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION ON THOSE MATTERS WHEN IT WAS DONE.
AND I'LL SAY THAT ALSO EXTENDS TO A POLICE OFFICER.
SO I HEARD YOU SAY THAT OFFICERS RIGHT NOW ARE ROLLING UP WHEN THEY PULL SOMEBODY OVER.
AND IN INSTANCES THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY APPROACH THAT DRIVER DOOR OR PASSENGER DOOR.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE APPROACHING OR WHAT THEY'RE APPROACHING.
HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? IS THAT RARE OR IS THAT QUITE A BIT OF THE TIME? YEAH, TO QUANTIFY IT, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S NOT RARE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE REALLY FAST MOVING.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN OFFICER MAKES A TRAFFIC STOP RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO SO IS TO NOTIFY DISPATCH WHILE THEY'RE MAKING THE STOP AND THEY'RE MULTITASKING AND DOING A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS SO THAT DISPATCH KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE, WHICH CAR THEY'RE PULLING OVER, WHICH DIRECTION TO TRAVEL, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION THEY'RE PUTTING OUT.
THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THEY JUST THERE'S NOT TIME TO PUT THAT OUT OVER THE RADIO BECAUSE THE RADIO IS JAMMED WITH OTHER TRAFFIC OFFICERS SPEAKING TO DISPATCH. SO I CAN'T QUANTIFY IT, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IT HAPPENS REGULARLY JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF OUR JOB.
WE CAN'T PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE WALKING UP ON A VEHICLE AND THEY DO NOT KNOW.
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GREATLY, YOU KNOW, IF NOT ELIMINATE GREATLY REDUCE THAT.ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU.
AND THEN THE SECOND THING THAT CAUSED MY CAUTION LIGHT TO COME ON IS I KNOW OFTENTIMES, CERTAINLY IN ALL ASPECTS OF OUR LIFE, WHEN WE DEPLOY NEW TECHNOLOGY, THAT TECHNOLOGY SAVES US RESOURCES, IT SAVES US MONEY, IT'S MORE EFFICIENT.
AND I HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT MANAGING A 17 OR 19 YEAR OLD SYSTEM OF DISPATCH RIGHT NOW IS A LABOR INTENSIVE EFFORT, AND THAT HOPEFULLY THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL ACTUALLY MAKE IT SIMPLER AND EASIER AND SAVE US.
AND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT OFFICER MORE EFFICIENT IN THE FIELD.
IT'S THE IDEA TO KIND OF DEPLOY, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND IF WE DO BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL OR ARE YOU SURE WE'RE GOING TO NEED A NEW OFFICER? BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT THAT WE DO IN BUSINESS IS LIKE HOW DO WE SAVE LABOR? RIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND TECHNOLOGY DOES.
BUT THE THING IS THAT WE KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE AND MORE TECHNOLOGY, AND WE'RE BURDENED WITH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PIECES THAT WE HAVE TO NOW INTEGRATE, SUPPORT AND MAKE WORK.
AND SO BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE EFFICIENT, WE BUY MORE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE CAN DO MORE WITH LESS.
AND THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT.
AND THEN AND THEN BACK TO YOUR OTHER YELLOW LIGHT, AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PUT FAITH IN THE FACT THAT THE OFFICERS THAT WE HIRE, WE CAN TRUST RIGHT AT THE END OF THE DAY IN TERMS OF PUSHING THE STOP BUTTON, BUT ALSO AUDITS CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
AND WHY IS THERE NO VIDEO? WELL, I HATE TO STOP BUTTON RECORD AFTER THE FACT.
AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S THE SAFEGUARD.
SO YOU CAN GO BACK AND PULL THAT VIDEO.
THE OFFICER DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO TOUCH THAT HARD DRIVE THAT'S IN THE BACK OF THE CAR.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY.
SO I GUESS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT STARTS AUTOMATICALLY.
SO THE OFFICER DOESN'T HAVE TO START IT CORRECT.
IT STARTS AUTOMATICALLY, IT STARTS AUTOMATICALLY.
MR. BLACKBURN, YOU READY TO MAKE A MOTION? I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT IT.
I WAS A YOUNG COP 42 YEARS AGO, AND LOOKING AT THIS TECHNOLOGY, MAN, IT IS JUST LEFT ME IN THE DUST.
BUT THERE'S BEEN TIMES THAT I ACTUALLY WAS IN FOOT PURSUITS AND AND CAR PURSUITS.
WHEN YOU'RE CHASING SOMEBODY, YOU RUN OUT OF BREATH.
IT'S HARD TO TALK ON THE RADIO.
YOU'RE GOING OVER FENCES, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH BACKYARDS.
AND THERE'S BEEN TIMES I'VE HAD TO GET ON THE OTHER END OF THIS FOOT PURSUIT.
I CATCH THE PERSON. I'M SO OUT OF BREATH.
I CAN'T TELL THE DISPATCHER WHERE I AM, CLEARLY.
I WANT THOSE COPS TO KNOW WHERE I AM IMMEDIATELY, AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS IS GOING TO GET THAT COVER TO THOSE OFFICERS WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY ARE AFTER THEY JUST DID A FOOT PURSUIT AND NOW THEY'RE WRESTLING WITH THE SUSPECT.
SO THAT ALONE IS WORTH EVERY PENNY OF THIS.
BUT ALL THESE OTHER FEATURES TECHNOLOGY IS UNBELIEVABLE.
NOW IS PROBABLY NOT A GOOD TIME TO BE A CRIMINAL.
MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED AN AGENDA ITEM NO.
11, SUBSECTION TWO WITH THE ADDITION THAT WE BRING BACK AN AUDIT CONFIDENTIALITY POLICY SECOND.
BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PARTS TO THIS MOTION.
OR IS IT JUST THEY TOOK THE WHOLE THING? OKAY WITH THAT THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 12.
[12. STATE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE AND LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM AMENDMENT IN SUPPORT OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE RALPH M. BROWN ACT]
THANK YOU. GREAT REPORT.MAKING OR LEADING OFF THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR, MR. JASON HABER. THANK YOU, MR.
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CHADWICK. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS JASON HABER, INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR.REPRESENTING OUR INTERESTS AND ADVOCATING ON OUR BEHALF IN SACRAMENTO.
THIS ITEM IS FIRST TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON STATE LEGISLATIVE AND BUDGET ACTIVITY AND THE CITY'S RECENT AND ONGOING ADVOCACY EFFORTS ON PENDING LEGISLATION AND ALSO TO ADOPT CONSIDER ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE LEGISLATIVE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WOULD INCLUDE FOUR NEW POSITION STATEMENTS RELATED TO REFORMS TO THE STATE PUBLIC MEETINGS LAW, THE RALPH BROWN AND BROWN ACT AND WOULD EASE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ABILITY TO CONDUCT HYBRID STYLE MEETINGS BOTH IN-PERSON AND REMOTE PARTICIPATION.
BRIEFLY, AS A BRIEF BACKGROUND, THE CITY'S LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM IS GUIDED BY CITY COUNCIL POLICY 39, WHICH PROVIDES THAT THE CITY ADOPT A LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM THAT LAYS OUT THE CITY'S POSITIONS ON A WIDE VARIETY OF ISSUES THAT IMPACT AND AFFECT CITY POLICY AND OPERATIONS.
FURTHERMORE, THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2019 ADOPTED A RESOLUTION THAT ESTABLISHED THE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, AND THAT SUBCOMMITTEE IS CURRENTLY THE MEMBERS OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE ARE MAYOR HALL AND COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.
ONE OF THE TASKS OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE IS TO MONITOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY ONGOING LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS AND BUDGET ACTIVITY, AND ADVISE AND WORK WITH STAFF ON TAKING POSITIONS AND PRIORITIZING THOSE PROPOSALS.
THE STAFF REPORT INCLUDES A LIST OF THE BILLS THAT THE CITY HAS TAKEN POSITIONS ON.
THIS SESSION WE'VE IDENTIFIED THOSE WHERE WE HAVE TAKEN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION POSITIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ADOPTED PLATFORM POSITIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND AT THIS POINT, I'M HAPPY TO HAND IT OFF TO MR. HUTCHINGS. HE'LL TAKE US ON A DEEPER DIVE INTO THOSE PENDING LEGISLATIVE ISSUES AND FOLLOWING COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS RELATED TO MR. HUTCHINGS PRESENTATION, WE'D BE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL ACTION ON THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, AND WE CAN GO OVER THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT AT THAT TIME. MR. HUTCHINGS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
DANE HUTCHINGS, I'M THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE RENNE PUBLIC POLICY GROUP.
I WILL DO MY LEVEL BEST TO KEEP MY PRESENTATION SUCCINCT, TO ALLOW MORE TIME FOR DISCUSSION.
I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A ROBUST ONE THIS EVENING.
SO JUST OFF THE TOP, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT YET MET ME AND OUR TEAM, DANE HUTCHINGS, LIKE I SAID, MANAGING DIRECTOR SHARON GONSALVES HANDLES A LOT OF THE DAY TO DAY FOR THE CITY. BUT SHE AND I WORK VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER.
SO SHE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL AS WELL.
HOMELESSNESS IS REALLY TOP OF MIND AND THAT TIES REALLY INTO CARE COURT.
AND WE'LL TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THAT AS WELL.
WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS CURRENTLY.
THIS THE MONTH OF APRIL WAS REALLY JAM PACKED WITH HEARINGS WE HAD OVER 2500 PIECES OF LEGISLATION WAS INTRODUCED THIS YEAR ACTIVELY MOVING THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. THE GOVERNOR'S JANUARY BUDGET PROPOSED AFTER PROP 98.
THE GOVERNOR HAS NOT PRESENTED HIS MAY REVISION, BUT THAT IS ACTUALLY DUE THIS WEEK.
DOESN'T GIVE US A LOT OF TIME, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE BY THE 15TH.
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ACROSS THE STATE.AND SO WE'LL BE MOVING THROUGH THAT FAIRLY QUICKLY ONCE THAT PRESENTATION IS GIVEN.
I WILL SAY ONE THING THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS TOUCHED ON IS THAT HE HAS ANNOUNCED THAT HE'S GOING TO BE REQUESTING $11.2 BILLION FOR THE CARE COURT SYSTEM, WHICH, AGAIN, WE'LL TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
TOUCHING ON THE CITY SPONSORED LEGISLATION.
SO THERE'S TWO PIECES OF SPONSORED LEGISLATION.
THE FIRST IS AB 1672, BUT BOTH MEASURES ARE BEING AUTHORED BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER TACHIBANA HORVATH.
1672 IS WITH RESPECT TO ALLOWING YOUR BEACH LIFEGUARDS TO UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, TO PROVIDE WITH CROSSOVER TRAINING, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE POOL LIFEGUARD SERVICES IRRESPECTIVE OF DEMAND.
FORTUNATELY, THAT MEASURE AS ADVANCING SWIFTLY IT IS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND IS ADVANCING THROUGH IT IS ALREADY OVER IN THE SENATE IN ADVANCE OF THE HOUSE OF ORIGIN DEADLINE. AB 1682, THIS IS WITH RESPECT TO PATROLLING AND WATER VESSELS.
SO THIS IS AGAIN TOUCHING ON THE LIFEGUARD ISSUE.
CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT HAD ADVISED THAT THEY NEED MORE LEGISLATIVE CLARITY IN AND AROUND THE ABILITY FOR FIREFIGHTING LIFEGUARDS TO BE ABLE TO PATROL IN SPECIFIC AREAS OF OF THE OCEAN.
THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DENSE.
I WILL NOT I CAN PROBABLY GO OVER HOUSING ELEMENTS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BUT ESSENTIALLY WITH SENATE BILL 897, THIS IS A MEASURE THAT AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY WOULD PROVIDE MINISTERIAL APPROVAL.
I THINK ONE OF THE MORE CHALLENGING PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL IS AS DRAFTED, IT WOULD IT WOULD PERMIT A GRANDFATHERING IN OF OF UNPERMITTED ADUS THAT ARE SUBSTANDARD IN HOUSING.
SO REALLY, DOES IT MEET ANY SORT OF BUILDING OR CODE ENFORCEMENT? SO I FOUND EARLIER IN THE COUNCIL MEETING TODAY BEING THE HONORING THE MONTH OF BUILDING SAFETY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A NICE TOUCH HERE.
THIS IS ONE THAT REALLY HAS HAD A LOT OF OPPOSITION FROM NOT ONLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT REALLY SOME OF THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING OFFICIALS ASSOCIATION, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, REALLY BECAUSE OF THAT PARTICULAR PROVISION IN AND AROUND SUBSTANDARD HOUSING AND ALLOWING THOSE PERMITTED ADUS TO BE OR UNPERMITTED ADUS TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN MINISTERIALLY. MOVING ON TO AB 2097, THIS IS A REINTRODUCTION OF ESSENTIALLY THE SAME BILL FROM ASSEMBLYWOMAN FRIEDMAN OUT OF THE BURBANK AREA.
THIS WOULD PROHIBIT A LOCAL AGENCY FROM IN ENFORCING ANY NEW PARKING REQUIREMENTS OR CURRENT PARKING STANDARDS FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT BE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, EXCEPT FOR IN VERY LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES, TO COMPLY WITH ADA COMPLIANCE AS WELL AS SOME EV CHARGING STATIONS.
IF YOU HAD EV INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY IN PLACE, THIS IS ACTUALLY BEING OPPOSED NOT ONLY BY A CADRE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT ALSO ACTUALLY SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FOLKS WHO OPPOSED THIS BILL LAST YEAR, AS WELL AS THINKS THAT IT COULD BE ACTUALLY A DISINCENTIVE TO PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN AND AROUND NOT ONLY AROUND TRANSIT, BUT AWAY FROM TRANSIT.
AND SO YOU REALLY EVEN A QUARTER MILE AWAY WALKING CAN CERTAINLY BE A CHALLENGE WITH HOW EXPANSIVE THE BILL IS.
AND SO THAT BILL IS CURRENTLY IN THE ASSEMBLY APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
LAST YEAR, THIS BILL FAILED IN THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO ENGAGE ON THIS MEASURE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
MOVING TO AB 2011 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER WICKS.
THIS IS A BILL THAT ACTUALLY WAS A GUT AMEND.
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SO JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, ABOUT 30 PAGES OF NEW LANGUAGE THAT WERE REALLY TRYING TO COMB THROUGH STILL.BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE BILL DOES IS IT WOULD CREATE A MINISTERIAL PROCESS FOR NOT ONLY 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALSO VARYING PERCENTAGES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN COMMERCIAL ZONES.
AND SO I THINK THERE ARE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES THAT WE MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
THERE'S ALSO SOME POTENTIALLY SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONCERNS WITH RESPECT TO IF IT'S 100% AFFORDABLE, THEN THERE'S ESSENTIALLY NO LOCAL SALES TAX THAT CAN BE GENERATED FROM THAT PROPERTY.
AND SO IT'S SOMETHING TO TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER.
I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR BILL, THE CARPENTERS UNION IS IN VERY STRONG SUPPORT.
MOVING TO SENATE BILL 11 ZERO FIVE BY SENATOR HUESO.
I THINK WHERE THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS ONE LIES IS BECAUSE THEY'RE USING THE SANDAG VOTING STRUCTURE.
AND SO WE SAW THAT THE WITH A BILL THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT REALLY CHANGED HOW THE VOTES THE WEIGHTED VOTE SYSTEM THROUGH THROUGH SANDAG. AND SO ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE CREATING A NEW HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT CAN UNILATERALLY RAISE REVENUES ISSUE DEBT.
AND SO CURRENTLY THIS BILL IS IN SENATE APPROPRIATIONS, LIKELY TO MAKE IT OUT OF THE SENATE, BUT THEN WE MAY HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY MORE ACTIVELY ENGAGE ONCE IT'S OVER IN THE ASSEMBLY.
NOPE, I HIT THE LASER POINTER ON MY BAD.
MOVING FORWARD OK AB 2325 BY ASSEMBLYWOMAN LUCY RIVAS, INTERAGENCY ON COUNCIL ON HOMELESSNESS.
THIS CAME FROM A STATE AUDITOR'S REPORT THAT REALLY LOOKED AT THE THAT WAS ACTUALLY QUITE CRITICAL OF THE WAY THE STATE IS HANDLING NOT ONLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES, BUT HOMELESSNESS ISSUES AS WELL.
AND REALLY THE MAIN CRITICISM WAS THAT IT WAS VERY FRAGMENTED.
AND SO WHAT THIS BILL IS LOOKING TO DO IS REALLY CONSOLIDATE ALL OF THESE VARIOUS HOMELESSNESS AGENCIES RUNNING UNDERNEATH THE UMBRELLA OF THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND HAVE IT REALLY BE A TOP DOWN, STREAMLINED APPROACH TO HOW WE'RE APPROACHING HOMELESSNESS.
REALLY, ONE POINT OF CONTACT REALLY WILL ALLOW FOR MORE FUNDING TO FLOW MORE EFFECTIVELY, FOR MORE COORDINATED STATE AND LOCAL APPROACHES TO HOMELESSNESS. AND SO THIS BILL IS CURRENTLY IN THE ASSEMBLY APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
THIS IS A SORT OF PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY, A GRANTS PROGRAM THAT WOULD PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FOR PETS AND VETERINARY SERVICES.
AND SO THIS MIGHT PROVIDE OR MAY PROVIDE THROUGH COMPETITIVE GRANTS, THE ABILITY FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO HELP MITIGATE, PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE SERVICES. SENATE BILL 1338 BY SENATOR UMBERGH.
IT IS BEING SPONSORED BY THE GOVERNOR.
HE IS VERY, VERY COMMITTED NOT ONLY TO GETTING THIS THIS MEASURE ENACTED, BUT IS REALLY PUSHING FOR A JULY ONE SIGNING TO TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY WITH THIS NEW BUDGET CYCLE.
AND SO, AS I MENTIONED AT THE TOP.
11.1 BILLION IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED AND THE GOVERNORS MAY REVISE TO HELP FUND THIS.
REALLY, THE WAY THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK WOULD BE THROUGH THE CURRENT COUNTY SYSTEM.
THIS IS REALLY GOING ON COUNTY HEALTH.
HOWEVER, THIS WILL, IN COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY, REALLY TRY AND HELP PROVIDE SOME OF REALLY THOSE THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE REALLY SUFFERING WITH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS OR AND OR DRUG ABUSE TO ALLOW THEM ANOTHER SORT OF MORE KINDER APPROACH TO TRY AND REALLY GET FOLKS TO GET INTO PERMANENT HOUSING ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT AS FAR AS GOING TO THE RECEIVERSHIP PROCESS OR THE THE COURT APPOINTED RECEIVERSHIP.
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IT'S MORE LOOKING AT SOMETHING WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A LIGHTER TOUCH, BUT WOULD ENABLE THEY'RE HOPING TO GET MORE RESULTS VERSUS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING.ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE, AB 1833.
JUST REALLY JUST A TECHNICAL BILL TO TRY AND RAISING THE BIDDING THRESHOLDS FOR THE SANDAG AND THE OTHER TRANSPORTATION AGENCIES.
ACTUALLY, THIS IS AGAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE.
THE STORMWATER PLAN IS ALSO PART OF THAT TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
AND SO THERE WAS SOME AMBIGUITY IN THE LAW.
AB 2953 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER SALAS.
THIS IS A MEASURE THAT WOULD ORIGINALLY WOULD HAVE REQUIRED.
NOW, THE BILL HAS BEEN AMENDED TO SAY THAT WE REALLY NEED TO CONDUCT A FEASIBILITY ASSESSMENT TO SEE IF IF IT'S A FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO BE ABLE TO USE RECYCLED MATERIALS IN OUR LOCAL STREETS AND ROADS AND HIGHWAYS TO TRY AND CLOSE THE LOOP IN THAT REGARD.
SENATE BILL 922 BY SENATOR WEINER.
AND SO THIS IS A GOOD BILL FOR I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING SOME PROJECTS ON INCREASING BIKE AND PED ACCESSIBILITY AND SO THIS MAY TAKE ONE OF THOSE BARRIERS OUT.
SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AT A LATER DATE.
IT HAS A LOT OF NEW REQUIREMENTS POTENTIALLY FOR CITIES, COUNTIES.
BUT WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD REDEFINE WHAT A CHILDREN'S CAMP IS.
IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT EVERY CHILDREN'S CAMP BE ROUTINELY ONE UNSCHEDULED INSPECTION, ONE SCHEDULED INSPECTION, A TON OF ENFORCEMENT, NEW REQUIREMENTS, AND ALSO WOULD REQUIRE THAT EVERY CHILDREN'S CAMP REGISTER WITH THE CITY.
SO IT WOULD REQUIRE A NEW DATABASE, A NEW NEW STORAGE DATABASE AND REGISTRATION.
WE HAVE GOTTEN WORD WE HAVE NOT SEEN THESE AMENDMENTS IN PRINT.
AND SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF TENSION BETWEEN CITIES AND COUNTIES.
BUT FRANKLY, THE COUNTY IS JUST MORE CAPABLE OF BEING ABLE TO, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE CAMPS BEING REGIONAL, TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE INSPECTION AND ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS OF THE BILL AND SO ON.
BECAUSE I STILL LIKE TO GET SOME MORE CLARITY IN AND AROUND REGISTRATION AND THOSE BEING ACCESSIBLE TO THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, ALL THE COST THAT COULD BE STILL ENCUMBERED BY THE CITY.
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SEE THAT BEFORE WE WOULD REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION.
THE EXTENDED PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY ACT.
THE CITY IS CURRENTLY SUPPORTING THAT THAT MEASURE.
THIS BILL WOULD ACTUALLY MOVE UP THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL WATER USAGE GOALS BY ABOUT A DECADE.
I THINK THE CHALLENGE YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S OVER 50 INDIVIDUAL WATER AGENCIES OPPOSING THIS BILL.
THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THEY THINK IT WOULD COST AROUND $3.2 BILLION STATEWIDE TO IMPLEMENT WITH NO STATE FUNDING TO OFFSET AND THE AMOUNT OF WATER IT WOULD SAVE BY REALLY TRYING TO FAST FORWARD.
THIS WOULD BE ABOUT 1% OF THE STATE'S TOTAL USAGE.
AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT INCREDIBLY HIGH DOLLAR TO IMPLEMENT.
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SB 1186.THIS IS A MEASURE WITH RESPECT TO MEDICAL CANNABIS.
I THINK WHERE THE CONCERN FROM THIS ONE COMES FROM IS THAT IT WOULD REALLY PROVIDE THIS GOES BACK TO THE THE TRANSPORTATION THROUGH THROUGH VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS OF BEING ABLE TO TRANSPORT THAT CANNABIS.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE RUB IS NOT NECESSARILY NECESSARILY THE RESPECT OF THE USES OF MEDICAL CANNABIS, BUT REALLY THE TRANSPORTATION HERE AND THERE AND ACROSS JURISDICTIONAL LINES WITH NO REGULATION ON THAT.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE SEEING SOME CHALLENGES ON THAT.
THIS WOULD REALLY ENABLE GIVE THE CITY FLEXIBILITY TO AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO CRAFT THEIR OWN TYPE OF HYBRID MEETINGS IF THEY'D LIKE FULLY REMOTE OR HYBRID, EITHER OR.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE.
BUT WHERE WHERE I THINK WE WHERE WE WOULD SEE A LOT OF EFFICIENCIES THAT WE'VE CURRENTLY SEEN REALLY UNDER THE COVID PANDEMIC IS THAT IT WOULD APPLY TO SUBCOMMITTEES AND COMMIT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
AND SO CONCEIVABLY, YOU WOULD NOT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CONDUCT YOUR SUBCOMMITTEES REMOTELY, BE ABLE TO CONDUCT SOME OF THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS REMOTELY, AND STILL PERHAPS HAVE A QUORUM OR WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE IN PERSON STILL.
AND SO THIS IS ONE THAT IS STILL A LITTLE BIT, I WOULD SAY, OPEN.
WE ARE IN A VERY UNIQUE POSITION WITH THIS AUTHOR.
THIS BILL IS CURRENTLY ON THE ASSEMBLY FLOOR.
SHOULD BE GETTING OFF NEXT WEEK.
MOVING OVER TO THE SENATE, I WILL ALSO SAY JUST A QUICK POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
THE ASSEMBLYWOMAN WARNER HORVATH, WHO SITS ON ASSEMBLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HAS BEEN A REALLY STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THE CITY, NOT ONLY ON THE SPONSOR BILLS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, BUT REALLY HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE IMPORTANCE IN HER TIME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND IS REALLY A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THE CITY.
WITH ASSEMBLY BILL 2449 BY ASSEMBLYWOMAN RUBIO.
THIS IS ANOTHER APPROACH TO SORT OF BROWN ACT REFORM.
HOWEVER, THIS WOULD REQUIRE AN IN-PERSON QUORUM.
ONE EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE HEARD IS THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD CONCEIVABLY HAVE TO ATTEST THAT THERE WAS NO ONE IN THEIR PRIVATE RESIDENCE THAT IS OVER THE AGE OF 18 WHILE THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN A COUNCIL MEETING.
FRANKLY, I GOT TO TELL YOU, SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS, I'M JUST THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAD SCRATCHER, BUT IT WOULD REALLY CALL INTO QUESTION THAT IF YOU HAVE AN ADULT CHILD, IF THEY WERE TO WALK THROUGH THE ROOM, DOES THAT INVALIDATE YOUR VOTE? I MEAN, SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING UP ARE, LIKE I SAID, A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAD SCRATCHER.
SO WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THOSE AMENDMENTS LOOK LIKE.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT WITH AB 1944, WE CERTAINLY HAVE REALLY AN OPEN INVITATION TO REALLY HAVE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS AND TRY TO CRAFT THESE WAYS TO MAKE IT BEST SUITED FOR THE CITY. AND SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU.
SO AT THIS POINT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUTCHINGS OR WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT FURTHER, I DO HAVE SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU.
WE CAN GO TO THOSE SLIDES NEXT IF YOU'D LIKE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PENDING LEGISLATION OR ANYTHING THAT MR. HUTCHINGS COVERED. WHY DON'T YOU GO TO YOUR SLIDES? THEN WE'LL DO PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO QUESTIONS.
CERTAINLY. SO THE PROPOSAL AND THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT FOLLOWS ON DISCUSSION BY THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE PRIMARILY IN CONSIDERATION OF THE LAST TWO BILLS THAT MR. HUTCHINGS SUMMARIZED.
SO WE HAVE CRAFTED FOUR PLATFORM STATEMENTS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO TAKE SUPPORT POSITIONS ON EITHER OR BOTH OF THOSE BILLS. THE FIRST ALL OF THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WOULD GO IN SECTION FOUR OF THE CITY'S LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM GOVERNANCE, TRANSPARENCY AND LABOR RELATIONS UNDER THE HEADING SECTION OF GOVERNANCE AND ETHICS.
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WE WOULD BE ADDING AN ITEM G TO SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT WOULD INCREASE CIVIC PARTICIPATION AND ENGAGEMENT, INCLUDING CONTINUED ALLOWANCE OF SUBCOMMITTEES, ADVISORY COMMITTEES AND BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY AFTER THE COVID 19 STATE OF EMERGENCY WITHOUT PHYSICAL LOCATION POSTING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE RALPH M.BROWN ACT. THE NEXT THREE EDITIONS WOULD BE ITEM H TO SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT WOULD PERMIT A MINORITY NUMBER OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VIRTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN MEETINGS WITHOUT HAVING PHYSICAL LOCATION POSTING REQUIREMENTS SO LONG AS A PHYSICAL, IN-PERSON MEETING QUORUM IS PRESENT.
THIRD, TO SUPPORT STATE FUNDING EFFORTS TO ASSIST WITH ENHANCED PUBLIC ACCESS FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND FINALLY, TO OPPOSE LEGISLATION THAT INCREASES THE COST OF MUNICIPAL MEETINGS AND HEARINGS THROUGH UNNECESSARY NEW REQUIREMENTS.
AND WITH THAT, BACK TO YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS? YES, MAYOR. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GLEN MCDONNELL.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AGAIN GLENN MCDONNELL HERE.
OFFICE OF ASSEMBLY MEMBER TASHA BRUNO HORVATH.
I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE REPORT AND THE WORK OF THE COUNCIL AND STAFF TO STAY ENGAGED ON LEGISLATION MOVING IN SACRAMENTO FOR THIS SESSION, REALLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL RESIDENTS HERE IN CARLSBAD, AND PARTICULARLY THROUGH THE WORK OF THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE WHERE I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO WORK WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.
SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE FULL COUNCIL IS ENGAGING ON THESE TOPICS AS WELL AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
SO IT'S CERTAINLY EASIER FOR THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER TO DO THE WORK OF REPRESENTING THE CITIES IN HER DISTRICT WHEN SHE HAS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE CITY STANDS ON ALL THIS LEGISLATION.
SO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO STAY VIGILANT AND COMMUNICATE WITH OUR OFFICE.
AND SO AS WE HEAD INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE HOUSE OF ORIGIN DEADLINE LATER THIS MONTH AND THEN THE TWO YEARS AT THE END OF THE [INAUDIBLE] SESSION LATER IN THE SUMMER, I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED COOPERATION WITH THE COUNCIL.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.
OKAY. COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? YES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO MR. HUTCHINGS FOR BEING HERE AND TO MR. HABER FOR HIS HARD WORK.
MS. GONSALVEZ ON THE RENNE PUBLIC POLICY GROUP, STAFF IS FANTASTIC.
SHE'S BEEN A WONDERFUL ADVOCATE AND PARTNER WORKING WITH THE CITY.
I TRY TO GIVE REALLY FULL FLEDGED REPORTS BACK TO THE COUNCIL WHEN WE HAVE OUR END, OUR CLOSING COMMENTS AT THE END OF OF COUNCIL MEETINGS, RIGHT AFTER I'VE HAD A LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, I TRY TO GIVE THE REPORT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, EVEN JUST THIS MORNING IN OUR LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING WAS JUST IN GENERAL, SOMETIMES THE LEGISLATURE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS LOOKING AT A BIG ISSUE LIKE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND COMING AT IT FROM DIFFERENT WAYS THAT HAVE UNINTENDED NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE EVEN TRYING TO FORM NEW ORGANIZATIONS, LIKE ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE JUST SAW IN THE SLIDE SHOW THAT CAUSE AN ENTIRE NEW BUREAUCRACY TO BE STOOD UP WITH MORE MONEY AND MORE POLITICS AND ENTANGLEMENTS THAT ACTUALLY MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE THE OUTCOMES WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO I THINK ON THE ON THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, WE REALLY DO DELVE INTO DIFFERENT BILLS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT IS BEST FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN GENERAL.
AND WE'VE HAD A REALLY, REALLY GREAT EXPERIENCE THIS YEAR WORKING WITH RENNE PUBLIC POLICY GROUP.
SO THANK YOU, MR. HUTCHINGS, FOR BEING HERE. AND THEN FOR THE TWO BROWN ACT BILLS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
BOTH COUNCILMEMBER NORBY AND I DID HAVE TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY AFTER THE STATE OF EMERGENCY AND HAD TO POST THE PUBLIC NOTICE AT OUR HOME AND BEING.
I JUST THOUGHT, I HOPE NO ONE SHOWS UP BECAUSE I HAVE COVID.
I WOULD HOPE THAT HEAD SCRATCHER.
I ALSO HAD MY PARTNER IN THE HOUSE, AN ADULT WHO HAD COVID.
SO THE AMENDMENT THAT MR. HUTCHINGS WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT THAT VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION, IF THERE WAS SOMEONE OVER 18, DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
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A WAY THAT IT'S REALISTIC OR WOULD ACTUALLY WORK.SO FOR THESE TWO BILLS, WE DISCUSSED THE GOING FORWARD, KNOWING THAT THERE IS TECHNOLOGY NOW THAT ALLOWS FOR VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION, PARTICULARLY IF A QUORUM IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND FOR SOME REASON SOMEBODY'S SICK.
WE DO EXPECT THAT THIS VIRUS WILL BECOME ENDEMIC, NOT A STATE OF EMERGENCY PANDEMIC, BUT THAT THE COVID WILL CONTINUE TO BE VERY CONTAGIOUS AND TO EXIST. SO WHEN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY ENDS AND HERE WE ARE BACK IN IN-PERSON MEETINGS, THERE HAS TO BE SOME WAY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE AND THE ABILITY THAT WE HAVE TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY IN A MEETING WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO THE OLD BROWN ACT WAY OF DOING THINGS LIKE POSTING THE NOTICE ON THE DOOR OF YOUR HOME, MAKING YOUR HOME ADDRESS PUBLIC, AND THEN INVITING PEOPLE INTO YOUR HOME TO PARTICIPATE WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGHLY INFECTIOUS VIRUS, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
SO THESE TWO BILLS ARE BOTH STILL BEING WORKED OUT.
AND AT THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT SUPPORTING THEM IN CONCEPT, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGES THAT WE DON'T LIKE, BUT IN CONCEPT SENDING A SUPPORT LETTER.
BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT A LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM AMENDMENT FROM THIS ENTIRE BODY.
SO THAT IS WHY IT IS HERE TODAY.
THANKS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DR. BHAT-PATEL.
YES, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THE COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ARE THAT THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES HAS ALSO TAKEN A POSITION SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE BROWN ACT PROVISIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, AND THEY ARE ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THESE PARTICULAR AMENDMENTS.
AND WHETHER IT'S FOLKS ALL ACROSS FROM SMALLER CITIES TO BIGGER CITIES, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT WOULD BE ADAPTABLE AND HELP IN TERMS OF MOVING THINGS ALONG AND MOVING THEM FORWARD.
I THINK ONE THING THAT DID COME UP, I KNOW THAT WE RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT AND MAYBE THAT'S MORE OF A QUESTION RATHER THAN A COMMENT THAT I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT WHILE WE WERE DISCUSSING WAS SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED WHEN THIS WOULD BASICALLY WHEN WOULD SOMEBODY BE ALLOWED TO BE VIRTUAL? BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT IF SOMEBODY STARTS TO KIND OF MISUSE THAT AND SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF POLICIES AROUND WHY SOMEBODY WOULD NEED TO BE VIRTUAL, IS IT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE SICK OR WHATEVER ELSE? OR DO THEY JUST GET TO SAY, I'M GOING TO BE VIRTUAL THIS MEETING AND IF THE QUORUM IS PRESENT, THEY GET TO BE VIRTUAL.
SO I GUESS I WANTED TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT AND CLARIFY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC.
CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.
SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES IN 1944.
THAT DECISION IS LEFT TO THE COUNCIL.
SO IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO HAVE MORE RESTRICTIVE RULES AND HOW YOU APPLY WHAT WOULD BE CONSTITUTED AS A REASON FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY, YOU CAN DO YOU CAN CRAFT THAT IN YOUR ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION AND ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
IN THE OTHER BILL, 2449, WHAT THEY ARE AS IT CURRENTLY AS DRAFTED, IT'S THE SAME, IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PROCESSES.
HOWEVER, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED WOULD BE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LIKE A BONA FIDE MEDICAL EXCUSE AS TO WHY YOU'RE UNABLE TO ATTEND.
AB 1944 WOULD ALLOW FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE A A NEW MOTHER BONDING WITH YOUR CHILD, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CHILD CARE ISSUES OR ANYTHING IN THAT NATURE, IT WOULD ALLOW THAT FLEXIBILITY OR AT LEAST ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THAT.
AND SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES, I'M CONFIDENT THAT SHOULD THESE BILLS BOTH ADVANCE OUT OF THE ASSEMBLY, THAT THERE WILL BE SORT OF A MELDING OF THE MINDS IN THE SENATE, AND THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE VEHICLE THAT ADVANCES FORWARD.
BUT THAT TO THE CORE OF YOUR QUESTION, AS IT STANDS ON 1944, IT WOULD REALLY BE AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO CRAFT THAT POLICY THAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM AND THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE CONCERNS AROUND THAT SPECIFICALLY.
SO WHILE WE WERE TALKING, I REMEMBERED THAT AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE COVERED THAT.
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OTHER THAN THAT, LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THE RESOLUTIONS AND THANKS FOR THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.ANY OTHER COMMENTS? LET ME JUST MAKE A COUPLE.
AB 211 WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
WHAT WASN'T MENTIONED, THAT WAS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.
WE TALKED ABOUT LABOR AND LABOR COULDN'T GET TOGETHER.
2011 YES. 2011 WAS BECAUSE OF PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS.
IT'S AMAZING. YOU'D WANT TO INCORPORATE PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS INTO SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE COST CONSIDERABLY TO DO THAT.
THE OTHER ONE WE DIDN'T MENTION, BUT CAME TO MY AWARENESS, WAS AB 1778 WHERE THE LEGISLATURE IS INTRODUCING A BILL WHERE WE'LL NO LONGER BUILD ANY MORE INTERSTATE ROADS OR ANY INCREASE THE SIZE OF ANY INTERSTATE ROADS.
OKAY. I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO RELAY SOME OF THE MINDSET OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN SACRAMENTO.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE CRYSTAL CLEAR, A CITY LIKE CARLSBAD HAD SPENT 30 YEARS WITH ITS GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, THE BIGGEST OBSTRUCTION TO OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN AND WHAT'S CAUSING IT TO COLLAPSE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME IS SACRAMENTO.
I MEAN, THEY KEEP COMING UP WITH MORE AND MORE WAYS TO CHANGE OUR LAND USE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND I CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH.
SO WITH THAT, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION MOVE, ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, SUBSECTION TWO.
I'VE BEEN ASKED AGAIN TO TAKE A SHORT, SHORT, SHORT BREAK AND JUST KEEP IN MIND OF WHAT TIME IT IS.
AND WE STILL HAVE TWO ITEMS TO GO.
SO LET'S TRY AND KEEP IT TO A MAXIMUM.
RIGHT. ITEM 13 CITY COUNCIL MEETING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
[13. CITY COUNCIL MEETING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OPTIONS]
OPTIONS.AND GIVEN THE LATENESS OF THE HOUR, WOULD STAFF LIKE A TO JUST ASK QUESTIONS OF OR COUNCIL ASK QUESTIONS OF OUR STAFF, OR DO YOU WANT A PRESENTATION? I'M GOOD WITH JUST QUESTIONS, BUT LET'S FIRST ASK, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
OKAY. SO QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR MR. BLACKBURN, WE'LL START THERE.
HOW MUCH TIME AND HOW MUCH MONEY DOES YOUR PROPOSAL HAVE FOR US TO DO THESE VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION? IT WOULD AT LEAST TAKE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR TO IMPLEMENT THIS.
IS YOUR MIC ON? YEAH, I APOLOGIZE, I'M A LOW TALKER AT TIMES.
YES, IT WOULD TAKE UNTIL ABOUT THE END OF THE YEAR TO PROBABLY IMPLEMENT THIS.
WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
HOWEVER, THERE WOULD BE COSTS ASSOCIATED.
I BELIEVE IT WAS 12,000 AND SOME CHANGE FOR OVERTIME.
SO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT SUPPORT THOSE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY OVERTIME STAFF TO SUPPORT AS WELL IN ADDITION TO ONE FULL TIME IT PERSON AT ABOUT 137,000. THANK YOU.
OTHER QUESTIONS? DR. BHAT-PATEL.
SO JUST BRIEFLY, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT OPEN PARTICIPATION OPTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE BROWN ACT AND LEGISLATION IN THAT PARTICULAR REGARD.
SO LET'S JUST SAY IF WE DECIDED, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO WATCH THIS FOR SOME TIME, FIGURE OUT IF THERE ARE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES THAT ARE RESOLVED, THIS BECOMES CHEAPER AS TECHNOLOGY GETS IMPROVED.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN WHERE A MEMBER HAD TO BE VIRTUAL, I'M ASSUMING WE WOULD STILL HAVE A VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION OPTION FOR THE PUBLIC OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO BE IN PERSON OR NOT? WELL, WITH THIS SOLUTION, THEY COULD CALL IN.
THEY WOULD NOT BE VIRTUAL ON VIDEO LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY AND COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA WAS.
IT WOULD JUST SIMPLY BE ABLE TO CALL IN.
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BUT WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO CHANGE OUR MUNICIPAL CODE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT KIND OF PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE OUR PROCEDURAL RULES STATE THAT PEOPLE FILL OUT SPEAKER CARDS, THEY GIVE THEM TO THE CITY CLERK.THEN THE CITY CLERK CALLS THE SPEAKERS AND THE ORDER THAT IT WAS RECEIVED.
IF YOU HAVE A 50 PEOPLE QUEUED UP ON THE PHONE, WE'LL HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IT SOUNDS LIKE IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WAS VIRTUAL DUE TO ILLNESS, IF THIS LEGISLATION DOES PASS AND WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE POLICY, IT WOULD ONLY BE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WOULD BE VIRTUAL.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.
SO JUST TO CONFIRM, WITH IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT COMMENTS PRIOR TO A COUNCIL MEETING? ABSOLUTELY. THEY CAN EMAIL THE COMMENTS TO THE CITY CLERK AND WE, OF COURSE, FORWARD THEM TO YOU AND ALSO POST THEM ON THE WEBSITE AND THEN MAKE THEM PART OF THE PERMANENT RECORD.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THE VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION, THEY CAN EMAIL, THEY CAN SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS AS PART OF THE PERMANENT RECORD AND THEY CAN ALSO ATTEND IN PERSON. AND THEN CAN YOU LET US KNOW OR REMIND US I KNOW WHAT'S IN THE PACKET.
WHAT CITIES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY ARE DOING VIRTUAL? LIKE HOW MANY? WHAT'S THE BALANCE? YEAH, IT'S I'M SORRY.
LA MESA, NATIONAL CITY AND SAN DIEGO.
AND THAT'S THREE OUT OF THE 17 THAT WE SURVEYED.
AND THERE WERE SOME OTHERS THAT WERE DOING IT AS WELL.
BUT THEY HAVE OPTED OUT OF CONTINUING IT BECAUSE IT'S SO HARD TO MANAGE.
GREAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS THAT I HAD HEARD THAT SOME CITIES LIKE OCEANSIDE ARE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH, HAD A VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION OPTION, BUT THEY PHASED IT OUT.
AND I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE COST AND THE BULKINESS OF THE PROGRAM.
YES. AND JUST THE MANAGING OF IT IN ADDITION TO THE LIVE COMMENTING.
OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? JUST A QUICK COMMENT.
AND WHEN WE'RE VIRTUAL AND WE HAD VIRTUAL CALL INS AND ALL THE REQUIREMENTS TO READ CERTAIN LINES OF TEXTS BEFORE EVERY AGENDA ITEM, AND THEN THERE'S GLITCHES AND WAITS AND PEOPLE CALL IN AFTER AND THEY WANT TO BE HEARD.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S MAYBE FOR BUDGET REASONS, BUT ALSO JUST SUPER CUMBERSOME AND JUST SLOWS DOWN AND KIND OF GUMS UP THE WHOLE SYSTEM IN TERMS OF THE EFFICIENCY OF CONDUCTING A MEETING. RIGHT. IN GOOD ORDER.
AND THEN QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO GOES FIRST AND WHO GETS IS IT IN PERSON SPEAKERS OR IS IT SOMEBODY WHO CALLED IN FIRST AND WHO'S BEEN WAITING THE LONGEST? AND ALL THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEFORE US.
I DO DRAW A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S ON THIS BODY, AND WE NEED TO HAVE A QUORUM IN ORDER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AND SOMEBODY WHO HAS ALREADY MULTIPLE WAYS OF REACHING US AND CONTACTING US AND LETTING US KNOW WHAT THEIR OPINION IS IF THEY CAN'T BE HERE IN PERSON.
SO. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IS IT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT JUST DIDN'T WORK AND IT WAS TOO SLOW AND CUMBERSOME? OR IS IT PURELY JUST ECONOMIC, THE REASONS WHY THEY.
YES. AND THE ECONOMICS OF IT AND THE GLITCHES.
I WILL SAY THIS, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE ZOOM PARTICIPATION AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO CALL IN, I WOULD SAY JUST ABOUT AFTER EVERY SINGLE MEETING, WE GOT NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE DROPPED OFF OR THEIR HAND WASN'T RAISED.
THEY SAY THEIR HAND WAS RAISED, BUT WE DIDN'T SEE IT.
SO THERE WAS A LOT OF CRITICISM TO THE PROCESS.
I GUESS I WOULD SAY THERE WOULD BE A VARIETY OF SKILL LEVELS OF THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF INTERFACING THE TECHNOLOGY, RIGHT, IN TERMS OF THE ZOOM OR THE PHONE CALL OR WHATEVER WE'RE DOING. SO THANK YOU.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE I DON'T HAVE TO GO OVER IT.
SO DID YOU? THERE'S NO MOTION TO BE MADE.
IT'S AT THIS POINT, IS THAT CORRECT CITY MANAGER.
I JUST I DON'T THINK [INAUDIBLE] SUPPORTING DOING THIS AT THIS POINT.
OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENT? OKAY. THAT WAS AN EASY ONE.
COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL. JUST A QUICK COMMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.
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BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN OUR STAFF AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE JUST YET.SO MAYBE TEN, 20 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, WHO KNOWS? BUT I DO THINK THAT FOR NOW IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE IN THE PARTICULAR WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN CONDUCTING BUSINESS.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 14, CITY COUNCIL FLAG POLICY.
[14. CITY COUNCIL FLAG POLICY]
THIS IS SOMETHING I ASKED TO HAVE PUT ON FOR DISCUSSION.AND BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS ON THAT? THERE IS ONE SPEAKER, GLENN BERNARD.
I DON'T SEE HIM IN THE AUDIENCE MAYOR.
OKAY. THE REASON I ASKED TO DO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ANY TIME YOU'RE GOING TO FLY A THIRD FLAG ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A CLEAR POLICY IN HOW AND WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE.
AND ALSO IN REGARDS TO A RECENT SUPREME COURT RULING.
I THINK WE SHOULD AGENDIZE THIS FOR A POLICY ACTION.
SO BEFORE WE THINK ABOUT PERHAPS FLYING OTHER FLAGS ON CITY PROPERTY, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A CLEAR POLICY AS TO HOW AND WHEN THAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE.
SO THAT'S MY MOTION FOR TONIGHT.
ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.
I THINK IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A MORE FULL FLEDGED DISCUSSION ABOUT POLICY, ESPECIALLY ONE IN WHICH THE CITY IS PUTTING FORTH ANY KIND OF PUBLIC STATEMENT.
SO I KNOW THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT THE INTERSECTIONAL FLAG, AND THAT'S THAT WAS A MINUTE MOTION THAT WAS MADE A LONG TIME AGO, AND IT'S STILL ON OUR MINUTE MOTIONS LIST.
SO THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF HAVING A FLAG.
AND I THINK BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE SHOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL FLAGS AND WHAT HOW THE CITY WILL DISPLAY FLAGS AND WHAT THAT MEANS. SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT FLAGS MEAN AND HOW WE AGREE WE OUGHT TO DISPLAY THEM.
SO I LEAVE IT UP TO THE CITY MANAGER TO WORK THIS INTO HIS CURRENT WORKLOAD.
SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'D CALL CALL THE QUESTION.
PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
DO WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS? WE DO.. PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS? YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE TWO OTHER SPEAKERS.BRIAN CONNOR. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR, STAFF, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
ONE GOOD THING TO REPORT TONIGHT, THE LAST VESTIGE OF THE ELEVATED SECTION OF THE OBSOLETE POWER PLANT CAME DOWN TODAY. SO THANK YOU, CECILIA BREWER, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT GOT THAT DONE BECAUSE THERE WAS A CROSSROADS ISSUE.
I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO PRESERVE THAT THING.
THAT WAS AN AMAZING CONCEPT IN ITSELF YOU KNOW.
I'M COMING BACK TO THE ISSUE OF THE ONGOING NOISE POLLUTION EMANATING FROM THE POSEIDON WATER DESALINATION FACILITY.
THE THIS IS A CHRONIC PROBLEM RELATED TO THE PUMPING, LIFTING THE WATER FROM THE PLANT UP TO THE SAN MARCOS BLENDING STATION.
IT MAY SEEM RELATIVELY OBSCURE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH ON IT.
THE THE IMPACT IN THE HOUSE IS SEE THAT THESE LOW FREQUENCY WAVES ARE THEY PENETRATE RIGHT THROUGH WALLS AND WINDOWS AND THEY'RE IT'S JUST AN INCESSANT AND IT'S REALLY THERE'S PLENTY OF DOCUMENTATION OUT OF THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION ON IT THAT COINCIDES VERY NEATLY.
NOW, WHEN I MADE COMPLAINT TO THE CITY ABOUT THIS ISSUE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS, I CALMED DOWN DURING THE PANDEMIC, BUT I WAS GREETED AT EVERY TURN WITH THE FACT THAT THE CITY HAS NO NOISE ORDINANCE, THEREFORE NOTHING COULD BE
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DONE. THE PLANT ITSELF, WHICH I TOURED, TOLD ME THAT THEY HAD MET THE PERMITS AT 70 DECIBELS AT THE PERIMETER OF THE PLANT.AND IT'S VERY ANNOYING AND IT HAS THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS DONE A LOT OF EXAMINATION ABOUT ITS PUBLIC HEALTH IMPACT.
WELL, THERE'S THE YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL CONTROLLED NOISE CONTROL ACT OF 1972 WOULD BE THE SUPERSEDING GOVERNING LAW.
AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU THINK ABOUT THIS IMPACT THAT'S GOING ON.
MOVING ON TO FINAL COMMENTS, MR.
[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
NORBY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST A FEW.SO, ONE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE PRE-OPENING OF A NEW RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN NICK'S ON STATE STREET, KIND OF ONE OF THEIR TRIAL DINNERS THAT THEY HAD BEFORE THEY OPENED. AND I THINK FOR ME, IT MARKS THE COMPLETION OF THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE OLD ANTIQUE MALL BUILDING.
AND IT'S JUST A FABULOUS, FABULOUS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
AND I WANT TO WELCOME THAT RESTAURANT TO DOWNTOWN.
NUMBER TWO IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I'VE NOTICED.
AND DRIVING AROUND THE VILLAGE IS A VERY, VERY SMALL THING.
THE PLANTING MATERIAL HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY SMALL OR KIND OF NON VIEWABLE OR WE CAN DO BETTER.
BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED AND IT LOOKS GREAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED.
SO BRAVO, CONGRATULATIONS AND KEEP IT GOING IN TERMS OF THAT.
AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR OFFICE HOURS.
I DID WALK BY AND SAW SOMEONE IN YOUR OFFICE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS YOUR OFFICE HOURS.
I CONTINUE ALSO TO HAVE OFFICE HOURS.
I WASN'T ABLE TO DO ANYTHING REALLY OVER THE PAST TEN DAYS BECAUSE I WAS SICK.
TOMORROW, I'M FLYING UP TO SACRAMENTO FOR THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ADVOCACY EVENT.
IT'S CALLED THE CITY LEADER SUMMIT, AND IT'S THREE DAYS OF WORKING WITH CITY OFFICIALS ALL OVER CALIFORNIA TO ARTICULATE OUR THE IMPORTANCE OF LOCAL CONTROL AND LOCAL AUTHORITY AND WHAT WE DO AS CITIES, THE IMPORTANCE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORK.
SO THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN POSITIONS ON, WE'LL BE TAKING TO SACRAMENTO.
BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY BE WORKING ON BEHALF OF CARLSBAD CITIZENS UP IN SACRAMENTO THIS WEEK.
LAST YEAR, THIS SAME EVENT DID NOT HAPPEN IN PERSON BECAUSE OF COVID.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT AND I'LL BRING A REPORT BACK AFTERWARDS.
SURE, THANK YOU. AND JUST TO SAY THAT THAT EXPERIENCE IS ALWAYS FUN, I KNOW THAT I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO WITH THE MAYOR A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO INTERFACE WITH OUR LEGISLATORS.
IT WAS A VERY LENGTHY AND HAD A LOT TO COVER, WHICH WAS GREAT.
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BUT WE DID TALK, GET AN UPDATE FROM OUR BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS.WE DON'T HAVE ANY HERE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD JUST YET.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE AND THEN LOOKING INTO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AND JUST IN GENERAL LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO GROW OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.
SO I VERY SUCCINCTLY WANTED TO GO OVER WHAT WE COVERED.
AND OTHER THAN THAT, I HOPE THOSE OF YOU, IF YOU DID CELEBRATE, HAD A GOOD MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND.
THANK YOU. JUST TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE OF THIS ANNOUNCEMENT FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS UPCOMING THAT WHERE YOU MAY FIND MORE THAN THREE OF US AT A MEETING OUT OF THESE CHAMBERS.
AND TOMORROW MORNING AT 7:00, THE SAN DIEGO NORTH EDC HAS THEIR ECONOMIC SUMMIT.
THAT'S AT CAL STATE UNIVERSITY IN SAN MARCOS BALLROOM 333 SOUTH TWIN OAKS VALLEY ROAD.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT, MR. CHADWICK. NOTHING TO REPORT SIR.
NOTHING. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU. WONDERFUL EVENING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.