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CITY COUNCIL.

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AND CAN WE START WITH THE CLERK, PLEASE, TAKING ROLL.

[CALL TO ORDER]

LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

AND TONIGHT THE CITY COUNCIL IS SERVING AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION NUMBER SEVEN.

THE DEPARTMENT AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS ON ITEM NUMBER 12.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS ALSO SERVING AS BOTH THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER'S REPORT ON ITEM NUMBER 13.

WITH THAT, IF WE COULD ALL PLEASE RISE AND MR. BLACKBURN WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

. OKAY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MINUTES.

AND THEN NEXT CITY ATTORNEY MCMAHON.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO REPORT OUT ON CLOSED SESSION? THANK YOU, MAYOR. THERE WAS NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

OKAY, NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT INTO PRESENTATIONS.

A PROCLAMATION IN RECOGNITION OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND THIRD GRADE ART CONTEST AWARD, ONE OF THE GREATEST EVENINGS OF THE YEAR.

[PRESENTATIONS]

AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE TONIGHT IN THE AUDIENCE.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN AND DEPUTY LIBRARY DIRECTOR SHEILA CROSBY FOR THE PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATION.

SO I INVITE SHEILA AND CHAD TO STAND AT THE PODIUM, PLEASE.

AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION.

IT SAYS IT IS IMPORTANT TO CELEBRATE THE ROLE OF HISTORY IN OUR LIVES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS IN HELPING TO PRESERVE THE TANGIBLE ASPECTS OF THE HERITAGE THAT HAS SHAPED US AS PEOPLE.

HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR MANAGING GROWTH AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, REVITALIZING NEIGHBORHOODS, FOSTERING LOCAL PRIDE AND MAINTAINING COMMUNITY CHARACTER WHILE ENHANCING LIVABILITY.

HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS RELEVANT FOR COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION, BOTH URBAN AND RURAL, AND FOR AMERICANS OF ALL AGES, ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND ALL ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS.

AND PEOPLE SAVING PLACES IS THE THEME FOR NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO CELEBRATE THE PLACES THAT ARE MEANINGFUL TO THEM AND THEIR COMMUNITIES.

NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH IS CO-SPONSORED BY THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, CARLSBAD SCHOOLS AND LOCAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORGANIZATIONS AND THE NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, WE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 2022 AS HISTORIC AS CARLSBAD'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH.

AND I TURN IT OVER TO YOU, CHAD.

THANK YOU. SEE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR HALL, CITY COUNCIL FOR HONORING AND RECOGNIZING HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S EFFORTS.

ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE COMMISSION IS TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ABOUT ITS HISTORY.

THIS IS DONE THROUGH SUPPORT OF SCHOOL CURRICULUM WITH A THIRD GRADE HISTORIC ART PROGRAM WE SEE HERE TODAY.

THE COMMISSION ALSO DOES THIS THROUGH AN ORAL HISTORY COLLECTION PROJECT IN COOPERATION WITH THE CITY'S LIBRARIES.

CARLSBAD HISTORIC HISTORY COLLECTION, ALONG WITH OTHER PROJECTS.

THANK YOU TO ALL THE STUDENTS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM AND ALL THE TEACHERS AND PARENTS THAT SUPPORTED THEM.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR RECOGNIZING CARLSBAD'S SIGNIFICANT HISTORY.

SHEILA. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MOVING ON, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT OUR THIRD GRADE STUDENTS WITH THEIR CERTIFICATES AND THEIR GIFTS.

EVERY YEAR, THE CITY, THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION SPONSORS DRAWING ON CARLSBAD'S PAST IN ART CONTEST FOR THIRD GRADERS IN CARLSBAD. THE CONTEST IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A CREATIVE EMPHASIS ON THE STUDY OF LOCAL HISTORY, WHICH IS PART OF THE CALIFORNIA STATEWIDE EDUCATION CURRICULUM FOR ALL THIRD GRADE STUDENTS.

AFTER LEARNING ABOUT CARLSBAD'S, HISTORIC SITES, STUDENTS ARE ASKED TO CREATE AN ARTISTIC IMAGE OF THEIR FAVORITE SITE FOR SCHOOLS.

PARTICIPATED THIS YEAR, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO BE SHOWCASING THE ART OF 13 OF OUR STUDENTS.

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THE ART PIECES WILL ALSO BE ON DISPLAY BEGINNING LATER THIS WEEK AND THROUGH THE SUMMER AT THE GEORGINA COLE LIBRARY.

AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR OUTSTANDING THIRD GRADE ARTISTS AND AWARD THEIR CERTIFICATES AND GIFTS.

PRESENTING THE CERTIFICATES ARE TWO OF THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSIONERS, OUR CHAIR, CHAD MEIJER, AND COMMISSIONER PATTY SHRIBMAN.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE ALSO RAUL DIAZ, JAMIE JACOBS AND PEARL LEA.

I WILL ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS FOR EACH OF THE SCHOOL.

THE STUDENTS WILL COME UP AND THEY WILL GRAB THEIR CERTIFICATE AND THEIR GIFT.

AND THEN WE ARE ASKING THEM TO CONTINUE OUTSIDE FOR A BRIEF RECEPTION.

SO FIRST UP FROM AVIA OAKS ELEMENTARY, I HAVE LINCOLN ALEXANDER.

NEXT UP, I HAVE OUR SHEILA MAXWELL.

AND A CONGRATULATIONS TO ISHAN RAMALINGA.

FROM CALAVERAS HILLS ELEMENTARY, WE HAVE NICOLETTA FRENCH.

AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME SID HOLZHAUER.

AND NOW I'D LIKE TO INVITE ANI PHAM TO COME HERE.

OKAY, SO THEN FROM KELLY ELEMENTARY, I HAVE HALEY GRIFFITH.

NEXT, SASHA REVENKO.

AND NAOMI WOLF.

AND FROM MAGNOLIA ELEMENTARY, I HAVE JACKSON DU PLANT.

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NEXT UP IS NATE FRIESEN.

AND NEXT IS DAISY.

GERONIMO CARRILLO.

AND LAST, WE HAVE VIVIAN NOXELL.

THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR WINNERS AND WE'LL BE HAVING OUR RECEPTION ON THE LAWN.

LET'S TAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL LET EVERYBODY REPOSITION THEMSELVES.

SO.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

TO COMMENT ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL OTHER NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION WILL OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. SO WITH THAT WE HAVE NON AGENDA SPEAKERS.

YES, MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE.

JIM YOUNG.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

GOOD TO BE HERE AGAIN.

MORE TIME IN THREE WEEKS THAN 20 YEARS.

SO I'D LIKE TO SIMPLY REPORT ON THE STATUS OF OUR ISSUE WITH THE PROJECT GOING ON ON TAMARACK AND VALLEY.

SINCE WE LAST SPOKE, WE'VE DONE OUR HOMEWORK AND COMPILED SOME RESEARCH AND CREATED A STATUS REPORT ON THAT PROJECT.

LAST NIGHT, JUNE 6TH, WE PRESENTED TO THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION, WHICH RESULTED IN A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO REQUEST THAT THE STAFF PLACE ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO REVIEW THE HISTORY OF THE ISSUE, THE CROSSWALK PROJECT AND TO EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR FUTURE TRAFFIC CALMING.

BASED ON THAT RECOMMENDATION, WE ARE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO FILE THE APPROPRIATE MOTION TO PUT A PAUSE ON THE PROJECT IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER RESEARCH HAS BEEN CONDUCTED. I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY PRESENT OUR SUMMARY REPORT TO THE CITY FOR FILING.

IF YOU WANT TO JUST HAND IT TO THE CLERK.

ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.

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OKAY. MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX.

ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED? SPEAKERS ON CONSENT.

ALL RIGHT. SPEAKERS ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

OKAY. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MANASSA WATTS, FOLLOWED BY NATE WATTS.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MANASSA WATTS, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD, A MEMBER OF SEVERAL LOCAL NONPROFIT BOARDS, INCLUDING THE CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH AND DEBATE BOOSTERS BOARD. AND I'M A PROUD PARENT OF TWO KIDS SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAMMATES.

MY SON, NATE, YOU WILL HEAR FROM IN JUST A MOMENT.

RANKS TOP IN THE TOP TEN IN CALIFORNIA AND TOP 20 IN THE COUNTRY IN EXTEMPORANEOUS SPEECH AND WAS NAMED IN NAMED OUR LEAGUE'S COMPETITOR OF THE YEAR FOR THE 2020 2021 2022 ACADEMIC YEAR.

AND MY DAUGHTER ZOE, WHO THIS TEAM HELPED TRANSFORM IN A SINGLE YEAR FROM A SHY FRESHMAN TO A CONFIDENT ORATOR, JUST PLACED EIGHTH IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. BUT IT IS NOT JUST MY CHILDREN WHO THIS TEAM HAS NURTURED TO THE TOP OF THEIR EVENTS.

WE ARE TAKING 20 STUDENTS TO NATIONALS THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE LARGEST GROUPS FROM A SINGLE PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL, TO QUALIFY THROUGH THE HARD WORK AND PRACTICE THESE STUDENTS. THROUGH THE HARD WORK AND PRACTICE.

THESE STUDENTS HAVE TAKEN THIS TEAM.

THESE STUDENTS HAVE TAKEN THIS TEAM TO THE 23RD IN THE NATION AND OUR NUMBER ONE IN ALL OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

I AM HERE TO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE MORE THAN 100 TEAMMATES AND THEIR FAMILIES THAT ARE PART OF THIS TEAM.

AS A MEMBER OF THE BOOSTERS BOARD, I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THESE STUDENTS DEDICATE THEIR EARLY MORNINGS, NIGHTS, WEEKENDS AND SUMMERS TO HONING THEIR CRAFT AND WITH THE SAME PASSION OFTEN ASSOCIATED WITH SPORTS OR PLAYING AN INSTRUMENT.

THESE STUDENTS ARE LEARNING HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR IDEAS CLEARLY WITHOUT FEAR.

HOW TO ENGAGE WITH THE WORLD AROUND THEM.

AND AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, HOW SUPPORTING THEIR TEAMMATES HELPS BENEFITS THEMSELVES.

IT GIVES STUDENTS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS A FORUM TO SPEAK BOTH ABOUT PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND DEEPLY PERSONAL CONCERNS FROM THEIR OWN LIVES.

STUDENTS ON THE SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM ARE LEADERS IN THE SCHOOL AND THE COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE ACADEMICALLY AT THE TOP OF THEIR CLASSES.

THEY ARE OFFICERS OF ASB AND STUDENT CLUBS AND IT MAY SURPRISE SOME TO KNOW THAT MANY ARE TOP ATHLETES.

AND YET THESE STUDENTS, THE STUDENTS ON THIS TEAM ARE FACING SOME OF THE TOUGHEST CHALLENGES ANY TEENAGER IN OUR COMMUNITY FACES, BUT THE SUPPORT OF THEIR TEAMMATES, THEIR SUPPORT OF THEIR COACH AND THE BOOSTERS AND YOUR SUPPORT ALL HELP THEM FIND THEIR VOICES AND KNOW THEY ARE NOT ALONE IN FACING THOSE CHALLENGES.

THAT SUPPORT GIVES THEM OPPORTUNITIES LIKE COMPETING AT NATIONALS NEXT WEEK THAT THEY WOULD NOT OTHERWISE HAVE, AND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WILL OPEN OTHER DOORS LIKE COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS. I WANT TO SINCERELY THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS TEAM SO THEY CAN REPRESENT CARLSBAD ON THE NATIONAL STAGE AND END THEIR YEAR ON A HIGH NOTE THAT MAKES UP FOR SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THE PANDEMIC STOLE FROM THEM OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.

AS A MOM, A MEMBER OF THE BOOSTER BOARD AND A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, I THANK YOU.

NATE WATTS, FOLLOWED BY LAURA [INAUDIBLE] . GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I AM NATE WATTS.

AND AS MY MOM JUST MENTIONED, I DO LIVE IN CARLSBAD AS WELL AS GO TO CHS AND I'M ON THE SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM.

I'VE JUST BEEN NAMED PRESIDENT OF THE TEAM FOR THIS NEXT UPCOMING YEAR, AND YOU WILL HEAR FROM MY PRESIDENT AS WELL AS FELLOW LEADERS ON THE TEAM A LITTLE BIT LATER.

BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO OVER AND KIND OF SET THE STAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE REALLY DO ON THE CHS DEBATE TEAM, BECAUSE SIMPLY PUT, WE'RE PRETTY UNIQUE GROUP.

NOT ONLY ARE WE NATIONALLY RANKED IN THE TOP 23, AS MY MOM MENTIONED YET AGAIN, BUT IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE WON OVERALL EVERY SINGLE TOURNAMENT WE'VE BEEN TO.

ON TOP OF THAT, WE SENT SIX OF OUR INDIVIDUAL COMPETITORS ARE IN THE TOP 100 IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

WE SENT THE LARGEST NUMBER, NOT EVEN JUST OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT OF ANY SCHOOL.

IN CALIFORNIA. WE SENT THE LARGEST NUMBER OF COMPETITORS TO THE STATE TOURNAMENT WHERE WE PERFORMED EXCEPTIONALLY WELL AT THAT AS WELL WITH MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS NOT ONLY RANKING IN THE TOP TEN IN THEIR EVENTS, BUT ALSO IN THE TOP 25.

THAT WAS A HUGE STEP FORWARD FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS TEAM, AND IT'S REALLY ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT OF THIS COMMUNITY.

IN TERMS OF NATIONALS, WE DID HAVE A COVID YEAR LAST YEAR, SO NATIONALS WAS ONLINE.

WE DIDN'T REALLY GET TO EXPERIENCE WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO TRAVEL.

AND THERE ARE NO REMAINING TEAM MEMBERS EXCEPT FOR THE SENIORS THIS YEAR WHO HAVE BEEN TO AN IN-PERSON NATIONALS TOURNAMENT.

BUT REGARDLESS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD THE PANDEMIC, CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL IS SENDING THE LARGEST NUMBER OF COMPETITORS TO THE NATIONAL STAGE IT EVER HAS, AND THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK WE PUT IN, AS WELL AS SUPPORT FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS SUCH AS YOURSELF.

SO A TRIP TO NATIONALS NOT ONLY WOULD WORK TO MAKE UP SOME OF WHAT WE LOST IN YEARS PAST, BUT ALSO WOULD REALLY SET CARLSBAD ONTO THE NATIONAL STAGE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT

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ONLY IMPORTANT IN SPORTS SUCH AS FOOTBALL OR BASEBALL, BUT ALSO I'D SAY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC ACTIVISM, BECAUSE AFTER ALL, THAT IS OUR CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY.

AND AS STUDENTS, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR THIS CONSIDERATION AND WE HOPEFULLY WILL BE GOING TO LOUISVILLE IN A FEW DAYS.

THANK YOU, GUYS. LAURA S.O.S.

FOLLOWED BY AVA FLORES.

WHAT A GREAT COMMUNITY WE HAVE HERE IN CARLSBAD AND SO SUCCESSFUL WITH OUR YOUTH IN MANY ENDEAVORS.

I'M REPRESENTING CARLSBAD, POP WARNER.

OUR 14 NEW TEAM COMING OUT OF COVID AND ALL OF THAT THAT SHUT DOWN A SEASON AND A HALF FOR US.

WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE OUR TEAM FOR ONLY THE SECOND TIME EVER IN CARLSBAD, POP WARNER'S ALMOST 50 YEARS HISTORY TO THE NATIONAL COMPETITION, THE POP WARNER SUPER BOWL IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.

AND I BROUGHT THIS BECAUSE WE'RE SO PROUD TO REPRESENT THE CITY, SO WE WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR OFFERING THAT TRAVEL GRANT.

WE HAVE MANY FAMILIES ON OUR TEAM THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT STEPPED UP AND AND AND PROVIDED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO LOWER INCOME FAMILIES.

AND THIS TRAVEL GRANT WILL DEFINITELY GO TO GOOD USE AND KIND OF REIMBURSE PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T ANTICIPATING THAT EXPENSE, BUT WHAT THAT OPPORTUNITY MEANT TO 22 KIDS THAT WILL NEVER FORGET THAT EXPERIENCE.

WE JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

SINCEREST THANKS.

THANK YOU. AVA FLORES, FOLLOWED BY [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.

MY NAME IS AVA FLORES.

I AM A CARLSBAD RESIDENT AND A MEMBER OF THE CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM, AS WELL AS THE ELECTED PRESIDENT FOR NEXT YEAR.

AS NATE HAD PREVIOUSLY EXPLAINED, NATIONALS IS A HUGE EVENT FOR OUR TEAM AND A GRAND ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE QUALIFIED.

DUE TO COVID, OUR TEAM WAS UNABLE TO FUNDRAISE FOR TWO YEARS.

IN ADDITION TO PUTTING A HALT TO OUR FUNDRAISERS, COVID CREATED AN ABUNDANCE OF FINANCIAL STRUGGLES FOR MEMBERS OF THIS TEAM.

THIS TEAM MEANS SO MUCH TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF ITS MEMBERS, INCLUDING ME AND THOSE SPEAKING TODAY.

WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT NO ONE IS DENIED THE EXTENT OF THE EXPERIENCE ON THIS TEAM.

WE LEARN HOW TO ARGUE BOTH SIDES OF NEARLY EVERY ARGUMENT.

THIS ALLOWS US TO UNDERSTAND ALL PERSPECTIVES WHEN SPEAKING ON ISSUES.

GOING TO NATIONALS ALLOWS US TO LEARN AND GROW ON A NATIONAL AND EVEN INTERNATIONAL LEVEL.

I, FOR EXAMPLE, WILL COMPETE IN WORLD SCHOOLS, DEBATE WITH COMPETITORS FROM AROUND THE GLOBE.

I WILL BRING WHAT I LEARNED BACK TO CARLSBAD TO SHOW WITH OTHER CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

THIS TRIP WILL NOT ONLY BE AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR ME AND ALL OF THOSE GOING, BUT A STEP FORWARD FOR THE LEADERS OF OUR FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THE LAST SPEAKER IS RASHA BORA.

HI. MY NAME IS RASHA BORA.

I AM A MEMBER OF CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM AND A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD.

ALSO, AS NELSON MANDELA ONCE SAID, OUR GREATEST FEAR IS NOT THAT WE ARE INADEQUATE, BUT OUR GREATEST FEAR IS THAT WE ARE POWERFUL BEYOND MEASURE.

AS A CARLSBAD RESIDENT AND A REPRESENTATIVE AND PROUD MEMBER OF THE HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM, THIS QUOTE MEANS A LOT TO ME.

WHILE I MAY NOT BE SO STRONG AND SIGNIFICANT IN MY ACTION, WHAT TRULY MAKES ME POWERFUL BEYOND MEASURE IS THROUGH MY WORDS AND THROUGH MY SPEECH.

THROUGH OUR WORDS, WE ARE TAUGHT ON OUR SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM THAT WHAT WE SEE MISSING IN OUR WORLD, WE CAN BRING ABOUT THROUGH OUR WORDS IN A COUNTRY THAT CELEBRATES THIS FREEDOM OF SPEECH SO VERY MUCH.

IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY WITH OUR WORLD AND ESPECIALLY OUR COUNTRY, IN TURMOIL.

EVERY TIME I READ THE NEWS, IT'S ANOTHER STORY THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED, ANOTHER EVENT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED THROUGH OUR WORDS.

OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN EVOKE CHANGE AND MAKE THIS PLACE THAT WE LIVE IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN IT WAS YESTERDAY AND THEN TODAY, A LITTLE BETTER THAN IT WAS YESTERDAY, AND THEN TOMORROW A LITTLE BETTER THAN IT ACTUALLY WAS TODAY.

AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE SAME MESSAGE, I URGE YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER OUR TEAM FOR THIS GRANT, TO SUPPORT OUR JOURNEYS AND HELP CONTRIBUTE TO OUR SUCCESS ON THE NATIONAL STAGE.

WITH YOUR SUPPORT TODAY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU HELP US BECOME THE FUTURE TO BRING THE CHANGE WE NEED TO SEE IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TRULY MAKES US POWERFUL BEYOND MEASURE. THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE SPEAKERS.

OKAY. ANY COMMENTS? YES, DR. BHAT-PATEL.

YES. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TESTIMONY.

AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY A SHOUT OUT TO MY FORMER TEACHER, ANITA CURTIS.

REALLY COOL TO SEE YOU HERE.

AND I KNOW THAT SPEECH AND DEBATE AND POP WARNER HAVE BEEN AMAZING RESOURCES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY FOR OUR STUDENTS.

AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I'VE HEARD NUMEROUS STORIES FROM STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES AS TO HOW IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IMPORTANT TO

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THEM. SO AND FROM FOR SPEECH AND DEBATE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I KNOW QUITE A FEW STUDENTS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT DEFINITELY WE'RE EXCITED.

WE'RE EXCITED FOR POP WARNER ALSO.

AND I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN A TOUGH COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WEATHERING THE STORM WITH US.

I KNOW ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE FOUR STUDENTS, I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS.

[7. CMWD ORDINANCE NO. 48 – ORDINANCE TO MIRROR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY’S 2020 MODEL DROUGHT ORDINANCE BY ESTABLISHING SIX WATER SHORTAGE LEVELS]

I WENT TO CARLSBAD HIGH ALSO AND JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW I WOULD HAVE NAVIGATED IT THAT YOU ALL DID IT.

AMAZINGLY SO.

JUST TO HATS OFF TO THE STUDENTS FOR WEATHERING THE STORM AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL GET TO DO SOMETHING REALLY COOL AND GO OFF TO DO NATIONALS ON ON BOTH REGARDS SO DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND JUST WANT TO SAY REALLY EXCITED FOR YOU ALL.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? THANK YOU. I JUST ALSO WANTED TO ADD MY EXCITEMENT AND PRIDE, PRIDE FOR CARLSBAD AND FOR THE YOUTH OF CARLSBAD THAT ARE REALLY DOING AMAZING THINGS.

YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THAT WE'VE GOT OLYMPIC MEDALISTS HERE, GOLD MEDALISTS AND SILVER AND BRONZE.

WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF ARTISTS FAMOUS AND NOT FAMOUS, BUT REALLY TALENTED PEOPLE AND VERY SKILLED PEOPLE.

AND TO BE PART OF THIS GROUP AND THE YOUTH THAT ARE AFFECTING SO MUCH CHANGE, I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND TO SEE THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.

[8. TRANSNET LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEARS 2022-23 THROUGH 2026-27]

SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TOO.

ANYONE ELSE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES.

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT REMEMBER IN OH TEN WHEN I RAN FOR MAYOR AND EVERY TIME I DID RUN FOR OFFICE, I DO GET A SPEECH COACH IN OH TEN.

IT WAS THE SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM.

WAS MY SPEECH COACH ONE OF THE BEST.

SO MY HAT'S OFF TO YOU.

YOU GUYS DO A LOT REALLY A LOT OF GOOD WORK, NOT ONLY IN SCHOOL, BUT YOU'LL BE DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK THROUGHOUT YOUR LIVES.

SO THANK YOU WITH THAT.

BLACKBURN A MOTION MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH 6/2, PLEASE.

AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON FOUR ORDINANCES FOR ADOPTION CMWB ORDINANCE NUMBER 48 AN ORDINANCE TO MIRROR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY'S 2020 MODEL DROUGHT ORDINANCE BY ESTABLISHING SIX WATER SHORTAGE LEVELS.

AND WITH THAT CITY ATTORNEY WANT TO TITLE THE ORDINANCE? YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, MARRYING THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY'S 2020 MODEL DROUGHT ORDINANCE AND ESTABLISHING SIX WATER SHORTAGE LEVELS.

AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, THIS ORDINANCE WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UPON ADOPTION.

SPEAKERS. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

COMMENTS. MOTION MOVE.

ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE CONTAINED AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM SEVEN PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM EIGHT TRANSNET LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEARS 2022-23 THROUGH 2026-27. CITY ATTORNEY.

DO YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE WE START? YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THIS ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE CARLSBAD PROJECTS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

INCLUDED IN THE LIST OF PROJECTS ARE PROJECTS FOR THE LIGHTING AND TRAFFIC CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREA.

THE MAYOR HAS DISQUALIFYING REAL ESTATE AND BUSINESS INTERESTS IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREA AND WILL BE RECUSING HIMSELF FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

DISCUSSION AND DECISIONS RELATED TO THOSE PROJECTS AS THE MAYOR IS NOT REQUIRED TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM DISCUSSION OR DECISIONS OF THE REMAINING PROJECTS.

THE MAYOR WILL LISTEN TO THE STOCK PRESENTATION AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

HE WILL THEN RECUSE HIMSELF FOR THE DISCUSSION AND DECISION ON THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREA PROJECTS.

ONCE THAT DISCUSSION AND DECISION ARE COMPLETED, HE WILL RETURN FOR THE DISCUSSION AND DECISION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECTS.

THANK YOU WITH THAT.

ACTING CITY MANAGER PATINO, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTIONS? THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE PRESENTATION TODAY WILL BE GIVEN BY ENGINEERING MANAGER HUSSEIN OJEDA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MAYOR, PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS HUSSEIN [INAUDIBLE].

I'M AN ENGINEERING MANAGER IN THE PUBLIC WORKS BRANCH.

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT TO THE COUNCIL.

BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND CONSIDERING YOUR BUSY AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING, IF PREFERRED, I CAN FOREGO THE PRESENTATION AND JUST GO DIRECTLY TO PUBLIC HEARING AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

I CAN JUST MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

I WOULD KIND OF LIKE AN ABBREVIATED PRESENTATION, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE ABOUT TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

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I DON'T KNOW WHO WE'VE GOT, BUT I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC.

SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON CARLSBAD TRANSIT PROGRAM OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 THROUGH 26-27. TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL INCLUDE STAFF RECOMMENDED ACTION, A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON TRANSNET AND THE PROPOSED PROGRAM OF PROJECTS.

BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED SINCE PREVIOUS UPDATE.

THEN VERY BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED PROGRAM OF PROJECTS.

SOME OF THEM ARE FUNDED WITH FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDS.

SOME OF THEM ARE FUNDED WITH TRANSIT FUNDS, AND SOME OF THEM JUST DO NOT USE ANY TRANSNET FUNDS.

THEY ARE INCLUDED BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSIDERED REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS AND ULTIMATELY NEXT STEPS TO FULFILL CITY'S REQUIREMENT TO RECEIVE TRANSNET FUNDS.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING CARLSBAD TRANSNET LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEARS 23 THROUGH 27 FOR INCLUSION IN THE 2023 SANDAG REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

JUST A BRIEF BACKGROUND.

TRANSNET, AS YOU MAY KNOW, IS A COUNTY WIDE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY VOTERS IN 1987.

IN 2004, THE COUNTY VOTERS ALSO APPROVED TRANSNET EXTENSION ORDINANCE, WHICH EXTENDED THE INITIAL ORDINANCE FOR ANOTHER 40 YEARS.

SANDAG AS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION SHALL APPROVE EVERY TWO YEARS, A MULTI-YEAR PROGRAM OF PROJECTS SUBMITTED BY THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS IDENTIFYING PROJECTS ELIGIBLE TO USE TRANSNET FUNDS.

SO WHAT IS CAUSED BY A PROGRAM OF PROJECTS ALSO KNOWN AS POP? THE PROGRAM. THE PROPOSED PROGRAM OF PROJECT INCLUDES A LIST OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT USE EITHER TRANSNET OR FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDS, OR THEY ARE JUST CONSIDERED REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT.

THAT MEANS THEY INCREASE TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT USING ANY OF THE FUNDS I JUST MENTIONED.

THE PROPOSED PROGRAM COVERS THE NEXT FIVE FISCAL YEARS FISCAL YEAR 23 THROUGH 27.

THE PREVIOUS CARLSBAD PROGRAM OF PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 2ND OF 2020.

THAT PROGRAM WAS LAID THERE WAS INCORPORATED INTO SANDAG 2021 REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, OR RTIP.

ON MAY 11TH OF LAST YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S 2020 PROGRAM OF PROJECTS.

SO WHY CARLSBAD'S PROGRAM OF PROJECTS NEEDS APPROVAL IN ORDER TO REMAIN ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE TRANSNET FUNDS.

SANDAG, SA, CARLSBAD AND ALL MEMBER AGENCIES OF SANDAG ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THEIR PROGRAMS OF PROJECTS EVERY TWO YEARS.

ONCE THESE LOCAL PROGRAMS OF PROJECTS ARE APPROVED, THEN THEY ARE INCORPORATED INTO SANDAG PROGRAM OF PROJECT, WHICH IS A REGIONAL PROGRAM OF PROPOSED TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

SO WHAT ARE ITS GOALS? THE PROPOSED PROGRAM OF PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THE FOLLOWING OBJECTIVES EFFICIENT USE OF LOCAL AND TRANSIT FUNDS, AND ALSO TO BE TO ALIGNING CIP, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, BUDGET AND A SCHEDULE WITH THOSE IN THE REGIONAL PROGRAM.

SO WHAT IS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR RTIP? RTIP IS A FIVE YEAR PLANNING AND PROGRAMING DOCUMENT, AND SANDAG AS A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS TO DEVELOP AND ADOPT AND UPDATED RTIP EVERY TWO YEARS.

THE DOCUMENT IDENTIFIES TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS SUBMITTED BY THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, AND BY DEVELOPING AND ADOPTING THESE RTIP EVERY TWO YEARS, THE LOCAL AGENCIES WILL REMAIN ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE FUNDING FROM FEDERAL, STATE AND TRANSIT FUNDS.

INCLUSION IN THE IN THE REGIONAL PROGRAM IS NOT A GUARANTEE THAT PROJECTS WILL RECEIVE FUNDING.

SO WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE PREVIOUS UPDATE? THE SHORT ANSWER IS NOT MUCH.

[INAUDIBLE] STILL NEEDS TO APPROVE.

IT'S A PROGRAM OF PROJECTS AND SUBMITTED TO SANDAG FOR INCLUSION IN THE 2023 TRANSNET PROGRAM OF PROJECTS.

THE REGIONAL PROGRAM SANDAG WILL THEN PREPARE THE 2023 TRANSNET PROGRAM OF PROJECTS WHICH WILL BE PROGRAMED BY 2023.

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WE HAVE COMPLETED FOUR PROJECTS SINCE THE PREVIOUS UPDATE AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE EL CAMINO REAL AND COLLEGE BOULEVARD.

INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD AND PASSO DEL NORTE.

LEFT TURN AND RIGHT TURN LINKS AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL REGIONAL ARTERIAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, ALSO KNOWN AS RAMS. THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS IN THE PROPOSED PROGRAM THAT THEY ARE PARTIALLY FUNDED BY FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDS AND THEY ARE EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING BETWEEN POINSETTIA LANE AND CAMINO WITH THE ROADWAY.

THAT PROJECT IS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY FEDERAL FUNDS.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS AVENIDA ENCINAS COASTAL RAIL TRAIL AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THAT PROJECT IS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY STATE FUNDS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PROPOSED PROGRAM AND THEY ARE FUNDED WITH TRANSIT FUNDS.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE LIST.

THE COMPLETE LIST IS PROVIDED AS ATTACHMENT A TO YOUR RESOLUTION.

SAME HERE. THERE ARE ALSO FOUR PROJECTS, LIKE I MENTIONED.

THEY ARE NOT FUNDED BY TRANSNET FUNDS.

THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSIDERED REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT.

AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE EL CAMINO REAL AND CANYON ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING BETWEEN LA CASA AVENUE AND ARENAL ROAD, PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD AND COLLEGE BOULEVARD.

INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND MELROSE DRIVE AND PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

NEXT STEPS UPON APPROVAL OF THE CITY, COUNCIL STAFF WILL SUBMIT THE SIGNED RESOLUTION TO SANDAG BY THE DEADLINE OF JULY 1ST. THEN SANDAG WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REGIONAL PROGRAM ON JULY 22ND.

AFTER THAT, SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL ADOPT 2023 RTIP ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, AND FINALLY FEDERAL APPROVAL OF THE FINAL 2023 RTIP IS EXPECTED BY DECEMBER 16 OF THIS YEAR.

JUST REMINDING EVERYONE ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, MAYOR.

OKAY, JUST SO CITY ATTORNEY.

JUST SO I'M CLEAR, I WILL STEP DOWN NOW AND YOU WILL DISCUSS ITEMS THAT I HAVE A COMFORT.

YES, MAYOR. AND IT APPEARS WE MAY HAVE A SECOND CONFLICT.

SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE WE DO IS HANDLE THE ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE A CONFLICT ON.

HAVE YOU LEAVE, THEN HAVE YOU RETURN? AND THEN THE COUNCILMEMBER THAT HAS THE OTHER CONFLICT CAN LEAVE AND WE'LL DECIDE THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL BRING EVERYONE BACK AND DECIDE THE REMAINDER.

NOTHING'S EASY, IS IT? OKAY, MR. BLACKBURN.

THIS IS GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC INPUT AT THIS POINT.

WE DO NOT HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS.

NO SPEAKERS. OKAY, THEN.

SO THE TWO ITEMS THAT WOULD BE ON THE TABLE NOW THAT THE MAYOR IS CONFLICTED ON WOULD BE ITEM CB 52.

PAGE 11 OF 13 AND ITEM CB 62.

PAGE 13 OF 13.

AND THOSE ARE, I BELIEVE, VILLAGE AND BARRIO LIGHTING PROJECTS.

MS. ACOSTA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH. JUST A REALLY QUICK, QUICK ONE.

IT'S ABOUT THE MAY 2021 AMENDMENT.

CAN YOU REFRESH OUR MEMORY WHAT THE AMENDMENT WAS? YES. THE AMENDMENT OF LAST YEAR WAS IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE ADDED TWO NEW PROJECTS TO THE PROGRAM AND WE ALSO ADDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WERE SHORT ON FUNDING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND CITY ATTORNEY, I'M JUST WE'RE ONLY ADDRESSING THE TWO ITEMS THAT THE MAYOR IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE HERE.

THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE ONLY ADDRESSING THE TWO ITEMS. AND I NEGLECTED TO MENTION WE SHOULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

NO SPEAKERS. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO ON THE TWO ITEMS, ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT ON THOSE TWO ITEMS, WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, CONTAIN AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

SECOND. GREAT PASSES AND WE'LL INVITE THE MAYOR BACK.

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SO THE ITEM THAT MR. BLACKBURN HAS A CONFLICT ON IS EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING FROM POINSETTIA AVENUE SOUTH.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? ANY COMMENTS? HOW ABOUT A MOTION DOCTOR? SURE. SO MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION FOR THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, WITH MR. BLACKBURN RECUSING HIMSELF.

OKAY. ON THE REMAINING ITEMS, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. MR. BLACKBURN, YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE REMAINING ITEMS? MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION ON THE REMAINING ITEMS IN AGENDA NUMBER EIGHT.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

I THINK I PUSHED IN THE WRONG ORDER.

CAN WE TRY AGAIN? SORRY. THE REMAINING ITEMS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY. MOVING ON TO DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

CONSIDERATION OF ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY POLICE ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION ACTING CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES DIRECTOR SHEILA KOBIN AND MICHAEL JENKO WITH THE GROUP.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU.

AS A RESULT OF A COUNCIL MOTION ON MARCH 23RD, 2021.

AT THAT MEETING, STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO WORK WITH A CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO FORM A COMMUNITY POLICE ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION WITH CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES, REPRESENTATION FROM EACH DISTRICT AND A MEMBER OF THE CARLSBAD POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION FOR FURTHER BACKGROUND STAFF WAS DIRECTED IN JUNE OF 2020 TO PRESENT A REPORT PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S USE OF FORCE, THE POLICE OFFICERS BILL OF RIGHTS AND VARIOUS FORMS OF CITIZEN REVIEW COMMITTEES ON POLICE PRACTICES.

FOLLOWING THAT PRESENTATION IN AUGUST OF 2020, STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO DO FURTHER RESEARCH AND PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ON THE MODELS OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT.

STAFF PRESENTED THAT REPORT ON OCTOBER 20TH, 2020.

FOLLOWING THE OCTOBER 20TH REPORT, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO HOLD PUBLIC MEETINGS IN EACH DISTRICT TO GAUGE COMMUNITY INTEREST AND GATHER INPUT ON THE FORMATION OF A CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

THE RESULTS OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WERE PRESENTED IN MARCH OF 2021.

FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATIONS, STAFF WAS ASKED TO WORK WITH A CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP A PLAN FOR THE FORMATION OF A COMMUNITY POLICE ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION STAFF CONTRACTED WITH GROUP TO TO DEVELOP THAT PLAN.

WITH US THIS EVENING TO REVIEW OPTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS MICHAEL NOCCO, A FOUNDING PRINCIPAL OF AIR GROUP.

MR. NOCCO IS NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED EXPERT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM AND ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEMS. HE WAS THE CHIEF ATTORNEY OF THE OFFICE OF INDEPENDENT REVIEW FOR LA COUNTY.

HE HAS ASSISTED LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WITH CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING ISSUES, CRITICAL INCIDENT REVIEWS AND THE DESIGN OF EFFECTIVE OVERSIGHT MECHANISMS. UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP, OUR GROUP HAS BECOME A RESOURCE FOR NUMEROUS CALIFORNIA CITIES GRAPPLING WITH OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AND OTHER CRITICAL INCIDENTS IN AN EFFORT TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN THE POLICE AND THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE.

WITH THAT INTRODUCTION, I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO MR. DEMARCO.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR, PRO TEM COUNCIL, CITY FAMILY AND YOUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME OF THE FACES, FAMILIAR FACES FROM MY VISIT HERE IN MARCH.

AND IT'S GREAT TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT IN PERSON THIS EVENING, WHICH IS SOMETHING I HAVE NOT BEEN USED TO OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO THEY SAY IT'S LIKE RIDING A BICYCLE.

WE'LL SEE. BUT I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE WORK THAT YOU ASKED US TO DO WITH REGARD TO POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION OF FACTORS AND POSSIBILITIES WITH REGARD TO INCREASED FORMAL ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN YOUR

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POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOUR COMMUNITY.

THE REPORT THAT WAS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE AGENDA ITEM WAS PREPARED BY OUR TEAM, AND THE POWERPOINT FOLLOWS ALONG AT A HIGHER LEVEL WITH REGARD TO THAT REPORT.

THIS PRESENTATION AGAIN IS ONLY INTENDED TO BE A HIGH LEVEL PRESENTATION TO REVEAL OUR OBJECTIVE AND METHODOLOGY BY THAT, HOW WE HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE GOT TO WITH REGARD TO THE FINDINGS OF OUR REPORT, THE OPTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED AS A RESULT OF THAT VENTURE AND SITE VISIT INTO YOUR CITY AND TALKING TO CITY, FAMILY AND CITY LEADERSHIP, IN PARTICULAR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE POLICE CHIEF, THE POLICE ASSOCIATION, CITY LEADERSHIP.

AND THEN TO FINALLY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE WITH REGARD TO THE REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AS AS WE STARTED, AS MS. KOVEN INDICATED, THERE HAD BEEN SOME WORK PRIOR TO US BEING ENGAGED WITH YOUR CITY AND THAT WORK UP AS AS MS. KOBE AND INDICATED INCLUDED A SURVEY OF YOUR COMMUNITY INCLUDED.

ANOTHER CONSULTANT THAT DID SOME OUTREACH TO GET FURTHER INFORMATION.

YOU ALSO RECEIVED A PRESENTATION ON VARIOUS MODELS OF OVERSIGHT THAT ARE PRACTICED THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN THE COUNTRY.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS ACCELERATED THROUGHOUT THIS THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, AND IN PARTICULAR, CALIFORNIA.

AND MORE AND MORE CITIES ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO DEVELOP A MORE FORMAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BUT NO TWO ARE ALIKE.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PROGRAMS THAT ARE JUST BLUEPRINTS OF EACH OTHER.

EVERY ONE HAS BEEN ADAPTED, FINE TUNED.

AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE THE MOST THOUGHTFUL, IN MY VIEW, ARE ONES IN WHICH THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND IN PARTICULAR LEADERSHIP INPUT WAS CONSIDERED IN DEVELOPING SOME OPTIONS AND AND THE EVENTUAL PROGRAM.

WE THEN, AS I INDICATED, SPENT A DAY HERE MEETING WITH CITY STAKEHOLDERS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND WE HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH EACH OF YOU.

AND MOST OF THE MOST OF THE WHAT IS IN THE REPORT COMES FROM THAT SITE VISIT.

COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIENCE WE'VE HAD WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES, DEVELOPING OTHER OVERSIGHT ENTITIES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THIS IS PROBABLY IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, I WOULD SAY WE'VE DEVELOPED AT LEAST A HALF A DOZEN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ENTITIES FOR VARIOUS CITIES AND COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND THAT THAT EXPERIENCE AND WHAT HAS WORKED AND WHAT HASN'T WORKED SO WELL CERTAINLY WAS AN OVERLAY AND CAME INTO INTO PART OF OUR REFLECTION, AS WE HEARD FROM EACH OF YOU ABOUT WHAT YOU THOUGHT WERE WOULD WORK BEST FOR THE CITY COMBINED WITH THE EARLIER INPUT THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM YOUR COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

AS I INDICATED, ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, OVERSIGHT IS LIKE SNOWFLAKES.

NO TWO ARE ALIKE.

EVERY ENTITY THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH HAS DEVELOPED SOME OF THE SAME PRINCIPLES THE IDEA OF ENGAGEMENT, THE IDEA OF EDUCATION, THE IDEA OF FINDING WAYS AND CONDUITS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE TO TALK WITH EACH OTHER IN A SAFE PLACE, IN A PUBLIC FORUM, AND IN A MORE FORMAL CAPACITY.

ALL OF THOSE BASIC PRINCIPLES SORT OF SET THE STAGE FOR WHAT THAT ENGAGEMENT SYSTEM WILL LOOK LIKE.

BUT THE PARAMETERS, THE DETAILS, THE WAY IT WORKS AND THE WAY THE ORDINANCE EVENTUALLY CRAFTED ARE ALL DIFFERENT IN EVERY JURISDICTION WE HAVE WORKED WITH.

BASED ON THE OVERSIGHT WE RECEIVED FROM THAT SITE VISIT IN MARCH, WE FOUND THAT THE EVENTUAL LARGE TICKET OPTIONS DEVOLVED INTO TWO.

ONE IS NOT TO CREATE A FORMAL ENGAGEMENT BODY, BUT TO UP THE PRESENTATIONS FROM YOUR CHIEF OF POLICE TO YOUR TO THIS BODY REGARDING VARIOUS ASPECTS OF WHAT POLICING DOES THESE DAYS.

USE OF FORCE DATA, NOTABLE EVENTS AND EFFORTS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY MAKING WITH REGARD TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THAT'S ONE OPTION WHICH IS REALLY TO CONTINUE THE STATUS QUO, BUT TO UP THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE POLICE CHIEF TO MAKE MORE FREQUENT APPEARANCES BEFORE THIS BODY. THE SECOND OPTION WAS TO CREATE A MORE FORMAL BODY, A CIVILIAN COMMISSION WITH A MEMBERS

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TO MEET REGULARLY AND TO SERVE AS A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OPTION ONE IS PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON THE POTENTIAL PARAMETERS OF OPTION TWO SHOULD THIS BODY DECIDE TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.

THIS IS JUST A BASIC HIGH LEVEL CHART THAT SHOWS THE ADVANTAGES OR THE WORK THAT ANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION MIGHT BE DOING.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT YOU CAN READ THE SLIDE ITSELF, I'M SURE IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE MATERIALS BEFOREHAND, I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THIS.

BUT THESE ARE THE KINDS OF ASPECTS THAT WE HAVE SEEN TO BE EFFECTIVE IN THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH, THAT HAVE DEVELOPED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FORUMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND EVEN OUTSIDE CALIFORNIA.

BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE BASIC PRINCIPLES THAT THAT COULD.

THAT COULD FORM A ROADMAP FOR ANY COMMISSION THAT THAT ENDS UP BEING APPOINTED.

THE SELECTION AND QUALIFICATIONS OF MEMBERS OBVIOUSLY IS CRITICAL AND WE JUST HAVE SOME BULLETS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AND FOR THE ORDNANCE PERHAPS DEVELOPED WITH REGARD TO THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT.

WE HEARD THIS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY FAMILY AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND POA WHEN WE TALKED WITH EACH GROUP.

SO THIS IS NOT OUR WORK.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE WORK AND THE INPUT WE RECEIVED IN THE DAY IN MARCH THAT WE SPENT HERE.

BUT I THINK EVERYONE COULD AGREE WOULD AGREE THAT WHOEVER WOULD BE APPOINTED TO THE COMMISSION SHOULD NOT BE SOMEBODY WHO HAS ALREADY MADE THEIR MIND UP ABOUT WHAT POLICING SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE, BUT SHOULD BE OPEN MINDED, SHOULD BE IMPARTIAL, OBJECTIVE AND UNBIASED.

THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN ABSENCE OF BIAS, PREJUDICE OR CONFLICT OF INTEREST BY ANY POTENTIAL MEMBER THAT THAT MEMBER HAVE A RECORD OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. CARLSBAD, AND SOME ATTACHMENT TO CARLSBAD, IF YOU WILL, AND A DEMONSTRATED ABILITY TO BUILD CONSTRUCTIVE RELATIONSHIPS, I THINK, IN OUR VIEW HAS BEEN HELPFUL AND TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH DIVERSE GROUPS WITH REGARD TO POLICING MATTERS.

AND FINALLY, A DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO THE OVERALL PURPOSE OF THE BOARD OR THE COMMISSION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY AGAIN TO BUILD BRIDGES, TO DEVELOP LIAISONS, TO FIND A WAY IN WHICH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ITS LEADERSHIP AND ITS MEMBERS CAN EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE ON ON MATTERS OF COMMON INTEREST BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ITS COMMUNITY. HERE IS ANOTHER WAY OF OF THAT SMALLER CHART.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING WHAT SOME OF THE AREAS COULD BE WITH REGARD TO TRAINING.

THERE IS NO EXPECTATION THAT A COMMISSION MEMBER OR BOARD MEMBER WOULD HAVE THE SAME DEGREE OF TRAINING THAT CERTAINLY AN OFFICER WOULD HAVE OR NOWHERE NEAR THAT.

BUT CERTAINLY SOME BASIC TRAINING WITH REGARD TO THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION ITSELF, SINCE THE COMMISSION OR THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE RUNNING A MEETING, SOME UNDERSTANDING, SOME BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF CITY POLICIES, THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS TO RUN SUCH A MEETING WE FIND HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT KIND OF TRAINING TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSION PRIOR TO ITS INCEPTION.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME AT LEAST BASIC KNOWLEDGE RIGHT OFF THE BAT REGARDING CPD POLICIES.

THAT IS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES, WHICH IS THERE MANUAL AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING.

SOME OF THE CHECKS HERE WITH REGARD TO USE OF FORCE OR IMPLICIT BIAS OR MENTAL HEALTH CRISES ARE JUST AREAS THAT CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN THE FOCUS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AT THESE AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH, CERTAINLY AS A FOCUS OF THE LEGISLATURE IN CALIFORNIA OVER THE PAST YEAR TO AND CERTAINLY IS THE FOCUS OF MANY ADVOCATES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THE CHECKED ITEMS ARE CERTAINLY TOPICS OF OF NATIONAL INTEREST AND MUCH DISCUSSION OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.

THE OTHER THING WE FIND TO BE HELPFUL IS TO HAVE COMMISSIONER BOARD MEMBERS WALK AT LEAST SEVERAL MILES IN THE SHOES OF AN OFFICER.

SO WE RECOMMEND THAT AS PART OF THAT TRAINING PROCESS, THAT EVERY MEMBER ALSO BE REQUIRED TO SIT IN AND SPEND SOME TIME WITH UNIFORMED PATROL OFFICERS AND MAYBE OTHER SPECIALIZED UNITS AS WELL, JUST TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OFFICERS ARE DOING WHEN THEY'RE OUT ON PATROL.

TO HAVE THAT BASIC UNDERSTANDING, WE THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR POTENTIAL COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE.

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AND FINALLY, BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY ON HOW BEST TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE UNHOUSED IN CALIFORNIA, TO HAVE SPENT SOME OR GET SOME BASIC KNOWLEDGE ON WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE, AND WHAT THE CITY INTENDS TO DO AS PART OF A SOLUTION TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.

WE FIND THAT TO BE VERY IMPORTANT WITH REGARD TO COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE ENGAGING WITH THE POLICE.

OBVIOUSLY, THE POLICE ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION, BUT NOT THE ENTIRE SOLUTION TO THAT VERY DIFFICULT CHALLENGE.

WITH REGARD TO THE MEETINGS THEMSELVES, GENERALLY WE FIND THAT THERE IS A NEED AND THIS WOULD BE A RESOURCE, A DEDICATION.

THERE NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST A RESOURCE DEDICATION WITH REGARD TO STAFF ASSISTANCE, WITH REGARD TO AGENDA-IZING, THE MEETINGS TO PROVIDE STAFF ASSISTANCE WITH REGARD TO GETTING AGENDA, HAVING IT PUBLISHED AND TO WORK WITH THE VARIOUS ENTITIES OF THE CITY TO GET THESE MEETINGS ONLINE AND MOVING FORWARD.

WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S PREFERABLE TO HAVE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS.

THEY DON'T NEED TO BE MONTHLY.

THEY DON'T NEED TO BE MIND MONTHLY.

THE SUGGESTION THAT WE SEE THE CONSENSUS SUGGESTION FROM SOME WAS TO HAVE THEM QUARTERLY, BUT IN OUR VIEW THEY SHOULD BE REGULARLY SCHEDULED RATHER THAN AN AS NEEDED BASIS BECAUSE AN AS NEEDED BASIS MEANS THAT THERE MAY COME A TIME IN WHICH THE THE COMMISSION GOES DORMANT FOR MANY MONTHS AND WE FIND THAT THAT KIND OF OF ARRANGEMENT CAUSES LOSS OF MOMENTUM WITH REGARD TO THE COMMISSION OR BOARD.

AND ALSO THE ABILITY TO HAVE SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

SO IN OUR EXPERIENCE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH AFTER THE GEORGE FLOYD MURDER, THERE WAS CERTAINLY A LOT OF UPTICK IN INTEREST WITH REGARD TO POLICING ISSUES.

AND THE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WERE UP AND RUNNING IN MAY OF 2020 HAD SPECIAL MEETINGS, CERTAINLY AS A RESULT OF THE INCREASED INTEREST AROUND POLICING MATTERS FOLLOWING THE GEORGE FLOYD MURDER.

AND EACH OF THE ORDINANCES THAT WE WORKED WITH HAD THE ABILITY TO CALL THOSE KINDS OF SPECIAL MEETINGS.

AND FINALLY, THE ABILITY TO HAVE WORKGROUPS, TO RESEARCH AND MAKE PRESENTATIONS.

SO IN THE SAME WAY THAT THERE ARE COMMITTEES THAT ARE FORMED TO TAKE OFF BITS AND PIECES AND MEET IN PRIVATE TO DISCUSS MATTERS OF MAYBE MORE WEIGHTY IMPORTANCE OR MORE LONGITUDINAL MATTERS, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITH REGARD TO DIVIDING UP THE COMMISSION MEMBERS SO THAT THEY CAN MEET OFFLINE AND AND GET INTO THE MEAT OF THE MATTER DEPENDING ON THE ISSUE THAT THEY ARE TACKLING.

AND FINALLY, WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALLOW THE COMMISSIONER BOARD TO AT LEAST ANNUALLY PRESENT TO YOU ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING, WHAT THEY'RE FINDING, THE BENEFIT THEY SEE FOR THE COMMISSION GOING BACK AND FORTH, THE BENEFIT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.

HAVING THESE MEETINGS, WE THINK, IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO HAVE LEADERSHIP OF THE COMMISSION AT LEAST CHECK IN ANNUALLY WITH COUNCIL AS THE APPOINTING BODY TO CHECK IN AND ADVISE YOU ON HOW THEY'RE DOING AND HOW IT'S WORKING.

THE OTHER THING WE FOUND IS THAT THIS IS AN EVOLVING AREA, THIS POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP AND ESTABLISHMENT OF MORE FORMAL ORGANIZATIONS.

AND BECAUSE IT IS EVOLVING AND BECAUSE THINGS ARE MOVING SO QUICKLY AND BECAUSE THE LAWS CONTINUE TO CHANGE COMING OUT OF SACRAMENTO, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A TWO YEAR COMEBACK AND REVIEW SORT OF PIECE TO THE ORDINANCE SO THAT IF, IN FACT, THERE IS AN INTEREST, PARTICULARLY GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING ON THE COMMISSION AND BOARD, BUT ALSO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WORKING THE WAY THAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO WORK.

AND IF NOT, WHETHER THERE ARE TWEAKS TO THE ORDINANCE THAT COULD IMPROVE THE WAY IN WHICH THE ORGANIZATION, THE BOARD OR COMMISSION IS FUNCTIONING.

SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THIS COUNCIL CONSIDER THAT AS AN OPTION.

AND FINALLY, AS PART OF THAT PROCESS TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK AND MAYBE THE COMMISSION IS BEST SITUATED TO DO THAT, BUT TOWARDS THE END OF THAT TWO YEAR CYCLE FOR THE COMMISSION TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM ITS PUBLIC ON HOW THE PUBLIC FEELS THE BENEFITS ARE WITH REGARD TO THE COMMISSION AND ANY SUGGESTIONS THE PUBLIC MIGHT HAVE ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS TO IMPROVE THAT, IMPROVE THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION AND PERHAPS TWEAK THE ORDINANCE ON A TWO YEAR CYCLE.

AND THAT WOULD END MY AT LEAST INITIAL REMARKS.

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BUT I'M CERTAINLY AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS THAT ANY MEMBER OF OF THIS AUGUST BODY MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND REALLY APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SPEND THIS EVENING WITH YOU.

THANK YOU. SPEAKERS.

YES. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS YOUSEF MILLER, FOLLOWED BY VICKI SAGE.

YOU CALL EAST COAST POLLEN? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS YUSEF MILLER.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ME.

I'M HERE WITH THE CLOSER.

I'M HERE WITH THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION AND WITH THE NORTH COUNTY SAN DIEGO NAACP AND THE NORTH COUNTY EQUITY AND JUSTICE COALITION.

I'M HERE TO ASK FOR A YES VOTE TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE FOR OPTION TWO.

OPTION ONE, IN MY OPINION, IS A CONTINUATION OF THE OLD GUARD, AND IT'S A AGREEMENT TO DO THE SAME SAME OLD THING.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE PROGRESS IN THE CITY, AND WE'D APPRECIATE A VOTE ON NUMBER TWO IN A FULL BODY OF YES FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CARLSBAD OVER THE YEARS ON POLICE REFORM IN A VERY STANDARD, GOOD RELATION, GOOD FAITH, AND WE'VE COME AWAY WITH A LOT OF WINS.

MAY I REMIND YOU OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE WORKED ON IN 2018? I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR FREE SPEECH AND THE CHANGE OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, AND THAT WAS WITH CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF THAT WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM, WITH THE NORTH COUNTY CIVIL LIBERTIES COALITION.

WE ALSO WORK TO UPDATE THE CARLSBAD PD'S DE-ESCALATION POLICY WITH CHIEF WILLIAMS HERE AND HIS STAFF AND HIS OFFICERS.

AND WE WE DID THAT WITH IT WENT VERY WELL.

A VERY BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT FROM THAT WITH CHIEF WILLIAMS. SO WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF WORKING WITH THE CITY AND ITS STAFF.

THAT IS THE CARLSBAD EQUITY EQUALITY COALITION, THE NORTH COUNTY NAACP AND THE NORTH COUNTY EQUITY AND JUSTICE COALITION.

SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO SOMETHING WELL IS ALREADY HERE IN FRONT OF US.

AND LET'S TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE THIS TRACK RECORD OF WORKING TOGETHER, OF TRACK RECORD, OF SUCCESS, A TRACK RECORD OF COMMUNITY INVOLVED DECISION MAKING, WHERE WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AND PROGRESS.

NOW, THIS MAY COST SOME EXTRA MONIES.

IT MAY COST SOME EXTRA DOLLARS, BUT THOSE DOLLARS SHOULD BE SYMBOLIC OF A A COMMITMENT TO PROGRESS.

AND IF WE CAN DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN ALBEIT, LET'S DO IT.

THE MAIN THING IS THAT WE MOVE TOGETHER FORWARD WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND THE COMMUNITY MAKING DECISIONS ON THIS ISSUE AND COME OUT WITH A PRODUCT THAT SUITS BOTH SIDES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS VICKI SAVAGE, FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH RAMOS.

WELL, GOOD EVENING.

HELLO, ALL. WE SPEND MORE MONEY ON PUBLIC SAFETY THAN ANY OTHER LINE ITEM IN CARLSBAD'S BUDGET.

I'D LIKE TO ASK THIS COUNCIL TO APPROVE BOTH OPTIONS PRESENTED BY THE GROUP REPORT.

THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ORE SITUATION.

IT CAN BE AND SHOULD BE AN AND JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, YOU ALL APPROVED MORE HEADCOUNT AND HIRING FOR CPD.

ONE MONTH AGO, THIS COUNCIL VOTED TO SPEND $4.6 MILLION FROM OUR GENERAL FUND TO REPLACE AND EXPAND THE ALPR SYSTEM AS WELL AS PURCHASE A NEW POLICE DISPATCH SYSTEM.

WITH ALL THE MONEY BEING SPENT ON OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AT A VERY MINIMUM, THE CHIEF OF POLICE SHOULD APPEAR BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND GIVE US AN HONEST, TRANSPARENT UPDATE.

THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY.

TWICE A YEAR, ESPECIALLY THE AUDIT RESULTS OF THE DATA OF LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA, ACCESS OF THE ALPR PROGRAM.

LET'S MOVE TO THE COMMISSION.

WE NEED THAT TO TAKE A MOMENT.

GOOGLE, CARLSBAD POLICE, EXCESSIVE FORCE LAWSUITS AND CARLSBAD POLICE EXCESSIVE FORCE VIDEOS.

IT'S QUITE SHOCKING AND VERY EMBARRASSING FOR OUR CITY FROM 2016 TO 2020.

POLICESCORECARD.ORG SHOWED THAT CPD HAD 61 COMPLAINTS AGAINST IT.

IF A CIVILIAN COMMISSION COULD PREVENT JUST ONE OR TWO OF THOSE COMPLAINTS OR AVOID A SINGLE LAWSUIT, IT WOULD SAVE US SO MUCH MONEY AND MORE THAN PAY FOR ITSELF.

RIGHT NOW, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN MISTREATED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, THERE ARE ONLY TWO OPTIONS.

YOU FILE A COMPLAINT AND HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATE ITSELF.

AND WE ALL KNOW HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT, WHICH IS NOT HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT BUILDS TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY OR YOU FILE A LAWSUIT.

VERY EXPENSIVE AND DIFFICULT FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION IS A VIABLE THIRD OPTION, BUT IT MUST BE SET UP TO BE SUBSTANTIVE, NOT JUST FOR SHOW, NOT FOR PERFORMANCE.

SO I ASK, AFTER READING YOUR VERY WELL WRITTEN REPORT, THAT YOU CONSIDER HAVING A COMMISSION, BUT I SUGGEST SOME CHANGES IT NEEDS TO MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH VERSUS

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QUARTERLY, WHICH GIVES 12 MEETINGS FOR THE TERM VERSUS EIGHT MEMBERSHIP OPTICS ARE KEY.

NO ACTIVE DUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT IS RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENTS FAMILY OF CPD OR ANYONE WHO HAS A CASE AGAINST CPD SHOULD BE PERMITTED ON THE COMMISSION.

LIMIT THE NUMBER OF MEMBERSHIP OF THOSE WITH ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND TIES, INCLUDING FAMILY TO NO MORE THAN 25% OF THE COMMISSION.

THE TRAINING RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT ARE FAIR REQUIRE MEMBERS TO THAT TRAINING AND RESERVE AT LEAST TWO SEATS FOR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ACTIVIST COMMUNITY, SUCH THE NCEJC OR CEC.

I ASKED THE COUNCIL TO ACT AND PASS BOTH SUGGESTIONS.

WE LED THE WAY WITH OUR DE-ESCALATION PROCESS.

WE'VE LED THE WAY WITH.

WE WERE THE FIRST TO ESTABLISH THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM.

NOW LET'S LEAD THE WAY FOR THE COUNTY AND ESTABLISH THIS COMMISSION AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC REPORTING BY THE POLICE CHIEF.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSEPH RAMOS, FOLLOWED BY HANNAH SUMMERHILL.

HELLO, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME.

I'M A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD AND ALSO A MEMBER OF THAT CEC, THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION.

I'M ALSO A CALIFORNIA STATE EMPLOYEE WHO WORKS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

I WORK CLOSELY WITH MEMBERS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO PATROL AND PROTECT THE RECREATIONAL AREAS THAT I HELP SUPPORT.

I MYSELF HAVE A FUTURE OUTLOOK FOR A CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I HUMBLY SUPPORT THE CEC AND ASK AND SUPPORT THEIR BELIEFS IN THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION AND ASK THAT THEY BE GIVEN A SPOT AS REPRESENTATIVES IN THE CIVILIAN COMMISSION AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS HANNAH SUMMERHILL, FOLLOWED BY A GROUP REPRESENTED BY ALLIE BRANDENBURG.

HI, EVERYONE. IT'S SO NICE TO MEET YOU.

I'M HANNAH SUMMERHILL.

I'M THE CO VP OF THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.

I'M HERE TO SHARE THAT.

I SUPPORT A CIVILIAN POLICE ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION, AND I'D LOVE FOR THE CEC TO HAVE A POSITION ON THAT COMMISSION.

AS CITIZENS, WE DESERVE TO BETTER KNOW WHO IS POLICING OUR COMMUNITIES, TO BE IN DIALOG WITH THEM, TO BUILD TRUST WITH THEM, TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM.

CARLSBAD IS A REALLY AWESOME PLACE TO LIVE.

I JUST MOVED HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FROM NEW YORK CITY AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

BUT AFTER EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED TO US IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING PERSONAL AND COLLECTIVE TRAUMA.

AND I THINK THIS IS AN AWESOME TIME TO COME TOGETHER AND HEAL COLLECTIVELY.

AND I THINK CARLSBAD CAN REALLY SET AN EXAMPLE FOR HOW TO WORK WITH THE POLICE.

THE CEC HAS ALREADY SUCCESSFULLY DONE THIS IN WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON A DE-ESCALATION POLICY, SO THIS ABSOLUTELY CAN BE DONE AND BUILT UPON.

TRANSPARENCY, COMMUNICATION AND CONSISTENCY IS KEY TO BUILDING TRUST AND BUILDING BRIDGES.

IDEALLY, THE CHIEF COULD REGULARLY REPORT TO THE PUBLIC IN THE COMMISSION ON THEIR DATA AND PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THE AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER SYSTEMS THAT VICKI MENTIONED. AS CITIZENS, WE DESERVE TO KNOW WHERE OUR FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT, WHO'S TRACKING US, WHO'S POLICING US, AND WHAT THE PD IS DOING TO ADDRESS RACISM AND IMPLICIT BIAS.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE.

PEOPLE ARE VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND.

BUT IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE'S LIVES AND SAFETY IS AT STAKE.

WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING TO LIVE IN A SAFE PLACE AND TO FEEL SAFE.

BUT WHAT MAKES ME FEEL SAFE IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT MAKES YOU FEEL SAFE.

AND I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT YOU FEEL, WHAT MAKES YOU FEEL SAFE, AND I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT MAKES ANYBODY FEEL SAFE AND VICE VERSA.

THAT'S WHY THE MORE VOICES THAT WE HAVE, WHICH I THINK THIS COMMISSION CAN DO, THE MORE SAFE WILL BE IF WE ALL HAVE IF WE ALL PLAY A ROLE IN CREATING A SAFE CARLSBAD TOGETHER.

FOR THOSE THAT MAY BRISTLE AT THIS COMMISSION, I ASK YOU TO SEE THE NUANCE BEYOND THE BINARY OF LEFT AND RIGHT POLITICS OF REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, OF PRO OR ANTI POLICE.

BECAUSE I REFUSE TO MAKE PUBLIC SAFETY A CHOICE OF THIS OR THAT.

I BELIEVE IN A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO COMMUNITY SAFETY.

I'VE ALREADY HEARD THINGS LIKE, WE WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE WITH THIS COMMISSION, AND THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER CREATING THIS, APPROVING THIS COMMISSION, VOTING YES, AND GRANTING THE CEC A SEAT ON THIS.

WE CAN DO THIS IN AN EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WAY THAT'S BENEFICIAL FOR ALL CARLSBAD IONS.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS A GROUP, ALLIE BRANDENBURG, REPRESENTING JOE.

ALISON BRANDENBURG AND SABRINA GOODMAN.

YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES.

IT WAS JUNE 12TH OF 2020.

MARCEL COX HARSHAW A 20.

CAN I GET YOU TO SPEAK MORE INTO THE MIC BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PICK THAT UP.

I DO THIS EVERY TIME.

I'M SO SORRY. IT WAS JUNE 12TH OF 2020.

MARCEL COX HARSHAW, A 27 YEAR OLD UNARMED BLACK MAN, WAS FACEDOWN AND TASED BY THE CARLSBAD POLICE OFFICERS RESPONDING TO THE INCIDENT. THIS EVENT WAS PUBLICIZED AND ACTIVISTS SPOKE OUT IN OUTRAGE OVER WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE AN EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE.

THE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED THAT THE THAT THEY USED THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FORCE POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE MAN WAS AGITATED AND AGGRESSIVE.

WHAT HAPPENED TO MARCEL COX SHOULD MAKE US ALL FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

BUT WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY ALSO FURTHERED AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION ABOUT OVERSIGHT.

WHICH I BELIEVE WILL NOT ONLY HELP OUR COMMUNITY, BUT HELP OUR POLICE FORCE AS WELL.

CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY FROM THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT HOW THEY REVIEW AND UNDERSTAND INCIDENTS LIKE THESE WILL WORK TO BUILD TRUST BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE OFFICERS WHO SERVE IT.

MY NAME IS ALI FREUDENBERG, AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION.

MY ORGANIZATION WORKED WITH THE CPD AND CHIEF WILLIAMS AND HELPED PASS A DE-ESCALATION POLICY THAT MADE REGIONAL NEWS AND HAS GIVEN CARLSBAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE ASPIRATIONAL EXAMPLE OF SAFETY AND EQUITY FOR OUR REGION.

HOWEVER, PROGRESS DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

STEP BY STEP, WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD CARLSBAD INTO THE EXCEPTIONAL CITY THAT WE ALL WANT.

IF THIS CIVILIAN COMMISSION IS CREATED BUT DOES NOT GIVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

THIS WILL BE A PERFORMATIVE COMMISSION.

THEREFORE. THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE A SEAT AT THIS TABLE BECAUSE OF OUR PROVEN TRACK RECORD WITH WORKING WELL WITH CARLSBAD PD AND COMMITMENT TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE THE COUNCIL CREATE THIS COMMISSION AND PROVIDE A SEAT TO THE CEC AS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS BRANDON HANSON, FOLLOWED BY BECKY MORROW.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS BRANDON JOHNSON, AND I AM THE CO VP OF THE CARLSBAD QUALITY COALITION.

AND I'VE ALSO WORKED WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DO AT THE LIBRARY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS LED TO ME LOVING THE CITY, IS I HOPE TO ESTABLISH A ENVIRONMENT OF GROWTH WHILE REDUCING LIABILITIES.

I LITERALLY JUST CAME BACK FROM TEACHING KIDS HOW TO DRAW BIRDS, AND I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A NATURAL EXTENSION OF THAT WITH OPTION TWO, WITH THE COMMITTEE.

I SEE THAT AS BEING SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS BOTH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FOR THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD TO ACTUALLY HAVE A SIMILAR ENVIRONMENT CREATED FOR GROWTH AND FOR BEING ABLE TO ADAPT TO NOT ONLY EXTERNAL PRESSURES, BUT ALSO TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF NEW OPPORTUNITIES, AS WE PRETTY MUCH AS WE DEAL WITH OTHER COMPLEX SYSTEMS, OTHER COUNTIES AND ALIKE, AND ESPECIALLY AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW.

AND I CONSIDER OUR COALITION TO BE A POTENTIAL GREAT ASSET WITH THIS IN MIND.

AND I ALSO BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF LIABILITIES WITH THE COMMITTEE IN MIND.

I SEE THAT AS ALSO REDUCING FUTURE COSTS DUE TO LIABILITIES THAT MIGHT COME ACROSS WITHOUT IT.

AND YEAH, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

I JUST THINK THAT WITH OPTION TWO, I CONSIDER THAT TO BE A PART OF OUR TRACK RECORD OF CONTINUING TO GROW YEAR TO YEAR.

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THANK YOU. BECKY MORROW, FOLLOWED BY ROB JENKINS.

HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS BECKY MORROW.

I'M A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD.

I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COMMISSION HAVE A SEAT ON THAT COMMISSION AS WELL. THAT'S MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU. ROB JENKINS, FOLLOWED BY MARVIN SIPPEL.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS ROB JENKINS, AND I'M THE FIRST VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE NORTH SAN DIEGO COUNTY NAACP.

WE REPRESENT THE 18 CITIES OF NORTH SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

I AM HERE TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY AND TO ASK FOR A VOTE OF YES AND BOTH ORDINANCES AFTER THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD.

OUR PRESIDENT, SATYA AUSTIN, DECIDED TO CREATE A TASK FORCE.

IT WAS A POLICE, POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, JOINT TASK FORCE.

WE CREATED THAT TASK FORCE TO DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS AND COLLABORATIONS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT FACILITIES WITHIN NORTH SAN DIEGO COUNTY. WE DIVIDED THE COMMITTEE UP AND USE OF MILLER AND I.

WE WORKED WITH ACTUALLY ESCONDIDO, THE VISTA SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AND ACTUALLY CARLSBAD FOR THE ESCONDIDO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE WORK WITH CHIEF ARSO, AND WE WERE VERY EXCITED THAT WE GOT A CHANCE TO WORK WITH HIM, HIS STAFF AND OFFICERS TO CREATE TO REVISE THE DE-ESCALATION POLICY.

IT WAS THE FIRST IN NORTH SAN DIEGO COUNTY FOR US TO DO THAT.

SO THAT WAS A WIN BECAUSE IT WAS ALL ABOUT DEVELOPING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

WE TALKED TO CAPTAIN WHITE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND VISTA AND JUST DEVELOPING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

AND WE ALSO TALKED TO AT THAT TIME ASSISTANT CHIEF MICKEY WILLIAMS, YOU KNOW, AND WE TALKED ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] AND THE THINGS THAT WENT ON AND THE LACK OF DE-ESCALATION AT THAT POINT.

AND WE WERE SOMEWHAT SATISFIED WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH HIM, BUT WE SAW THAT CHIEF WILLIAMS WAS VERY RECEPTIVE TO US.

SO WE CAME BACK AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE DE-ESCALATION POLICY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE NAACP IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HELPED TO CREATE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

AND THERE'S A MEMBER OF THE OF THE NAACP THAT SITS ON MOST OF THOSE COMMITTEES.

AND ALL THAT IS TO DEVELOP THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND DEVELOP TRUST WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND THE COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT AFTER THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD.

NOW THERE'S A BREAKDOWN.

THERE'S A ME AGAINST THEM ATTITUDE WITHIN A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND WE WANT TO TRY TO ERADICATE THAT.

AND BY CREATING THESE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAVE SOME TYPE OF INPUT.

YOU KNOW, WITH DE-ESCALATION POLICY, THERE WAS COMMUNITY INPUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, BEFORE GEORGE FLOYD.

SO THE FLOODGATES HAVE OPENED, THE DOORS HAVE OPENED FOR THINGS LIKE THIS TO MATERIALIZE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST STAND HERE TO TO TO ASK YOU TO TO VOTE YES ON THIS POLICY.

YES. WE ARE NOT WE DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

CARLSBAD IS DEFINITELY A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL CITY.

AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

AND WE WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF THIS INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND OF IT.

SO WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARVIN SIPPEL.

A SYLLABLE SHORT QUESTIONS.

DID ANY OF YOU WAKE UP THIS MORNING WONDERING WHERE THE POLICE WERE GOING TO STOP YOU, MAYBE HASSLE YOU, INTERROGATE AND WONDER IF THIS WAS THE DAY BECAUSE YOU WERE A PERSON OF COLOR? I DID NOT. I'VE NOT HAD THAT EXPERIENCE.

SECOND QUESTION, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT WHEN THIS DISCUSSION CAME UP A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, WE HAD FOUR MEMBERS ON THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL SPLIT 2-2. THEY COULD NOT MAKE A DECISION AT THAT TIME.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THE COUNCIL USED THE WORDS DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN.

I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO TAKE THAT DIVISION AMONG THE COUNCIL TODAY.

THIRD QUESTION, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT JUNE 19TH COMING UP IS THE DAY OF.

SECOND FREEDOM OF BLACKS, AS STATED BY OUR PRESIDENT A YEAR AGO.

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THERE WAS A WONDERFUL CELEBRATION LAST YEAR IN OCEANSIDE FOR THAT.

AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT FOR.

AND LASTLY, THE POLICE CHIEF AT THAT TIME, I HOPE HE CONTINUES, WILL SUPPORT THIS SITUATION.

NOW, AS A PERSON, A LONGTIME MEMBER OF CARLSBAD, I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 1964, STARTED TEACHING AT CARLSBAD HIGH.

I MARRIED INTO A PIONEER FAMILY IN 1956.

SO I'VE BEEN AROUND THE BOOKS A LONG TIME.

I'M NOT HERE TO PUSH MYSELF.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I CONSIDER MYSELF A WHITE MAN OF PRIVILEGE.

MY FRIENDS DO NOT GET THE SAME OPPORTUNITY IF THEY ARE OF COLOR.

AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF WONDERFUL BLACK AND BROWN AND WHATEVER ELSE I CONSIDER MYSELF WHITE.

BUT I GUESS THAT WHITE IS A NO COLOR, SO I GUESS I'LL CONSIDER MYSELF A NO COLOR WHITE MAN IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE THIS TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE I THINK YOU NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY AND A CIVILIAN REPRESENTATION ON THE REVIEW BOARD, I THINK HAS A LOT OF MERIT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK.

THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.

MAYOR OKAY.

QUESTIONS. ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? DR. BHAT-PATEL? YES, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF, OUR CONSULTANT, AND TO FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT CAME TO SPEAK TODAY.

SO JUST A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AND I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE MULTIPLE OPTIONS.

OF COURSE, THERE IS OPTION ONE, AN OPTION TWO.

THERE WAS A QUESTION AROUND IF WE COULD DO AND I RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK AROUND THIS AS WELL.

IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO BOTH OPTIONS, IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE LIKE AN ANNUAL REPORT FROM THE CHIEF OR BIANNUAL REPORT AND THEN ALSO HAVE A COMMISSION CREATED.

IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

YES, WE CAN DO BOTH.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE WORK GROUPS, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO CREATE WORK WORKGROUPS.

AND OF COURSE, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WOULD BE SUBJECTED TO THE BROWN ACT.

THE WORKGROUPS WOULD BE, I'M ASSUMING, TWO MEMBERS AT MOST IF IT ENDS UP BEING A FIVE MEMBER COMMISSION.

AND SO THEY WOULD THESE INDIVIDUALS THEN BE WORKING ON, LET'S JUST SAY, A SPECIFIC, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, POLICY RECOMMENDATION AND THEN BRINGING THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT WOULD WORK IF IT IS A FIVE MEMBER BODY THAN IT WOULD BE TWO WORK GROUPS THAT WOULD SORT OF TAKE OFF A PIECE OF MORE SUBSTANTIVELY AND TRY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A WORK GROUP IN THE CITY OF DAVIS WHO IS NOW CURRENTLY LOOKING ON THE WAY IN WHICH POLICE ARE RESPONDING TO MENTAL HEALTH CALLS AND THEY'RE JUST LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT AND THEN COME BACK AND REPORTING TO THE COMMISSION.

IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OFFLINE AND DIG DEEPER INTO THE ISSUE AND AND BRING MORE KNOWLEDGE FIRST TO THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO THE WHOLE BODY.

OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME EDUCATION FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN TERMS OF GETTING THEM UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE TRAINED ON.

I KNOW THAT THERE IS A HANDBOOK OF POLICIES AND ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO THAT.

HOW DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT EDUCATION? WOULD IT BE SELF EDUCATION OR WOULD THERE BE LIKE AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE THAT ANSWER YET, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO IN THAT PARTICULAR REGARD.

YES, DR. BHAT-PATEL.

IT VARIES FROM JURISDICTION TO JURISDICTION A LITTLE BIT.

A LOT OF THE TRAINING DOES COME FROM THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KNOW THE MANUAL MANUALS, UNFORTUNATELY, GET LARGER AND LARGER EVERY YEAR AND SOME OF THEM ARE 1200 PAGES.

SO IT REALLY HAS TO BE DRILLING DOWN INTO THE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT ARE ONES THAT THE PUBLIC ARE THE MOST CONCERNED OR INTERESTED IN.

THAT'S USUALLY USE OF FORCE, THE COMPLAINT PROCESS, THE WAY IN WHICH FOLKS ARE PROMOTED OR HIRED.

SO IT'S NOT ALL OF THE INTRICACIES, BUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS CAN BE PRESENTED IN IN A FORUM.

IN MY VIEW, THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS TO HAVE SOME ONBOARDING, SOME BASIC UNDERSTANDING.

BUT EVERY COMMISSION MEETING, IN MY VIEW, SHOULD BE ALSO AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE TO IT, AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE EXCLUSIVELY PRESENTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THERE ARE OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES THAT WORK CLOSELY WITH THE POLICE ADVOCACY GROUPS WITHIN THE COUNTY, WITHIN THE AREA THAT COULD ALSO MAKE

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PRESENTATIONS AND SHOULD BE INVITED TO DO SO.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND THEN I KNOW THAT THERE WAS THERE'S A WHOLE PIECE AROUND CRITERIA AS WELL, WHAT KIND OF CRITERIA WE WOULD WANT TO SET.

AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THOSE PARTICULAR CRITERIA TODAY, SO I'M JUST GOING TO BE GENERAL IN MY COMMENTS.

BUT JUST CURIOUS IF, YOU KNOW, AS WE THINK ABOUT THAT, HOW WE CAN MAKE IT MORE INCLUSIVE RATHER THAN EXCLUSIVE? BECAUSE I KNOW FOR SOME FOLKS, BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRAINTS OR WHATEVER ELSE, SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE PUT FORWARD, THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THOSE THINGS.

SO JUST CURIOUS ON THAT PARTICULAR REGARD, I'M ASSUMING THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE SOME SAY IN WHAT THOSE CRITERIA WOULD BE WHEN, IF AND WHEN WE WERE TO GET TO THAT POINT? YEAH. AGAIN, THE REPORT IS INTENDED TO DEVELOP AT LEAST SOME BASIC BULLETS ON THINGS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AS THE ORDINANCE, IF IT ENDS UP BEING AN ORDINANCE GETS CRAFTED. BUT CERTAINLY.

THE CRITERIA FOR WHO FOR THE QUALITIES THAT ONE WOULD LOOK IN A COMMISSIONER OR BOARD MEMBER ARE IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION BY THE SPEAKERS TODAY ABOUT WHETHER A CERTAIN GROUP SHOULD BE AS OPPOSED TO ITS A COUNCIL APPOINTEE.

YOU CAN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO IF YOU END UP CHOOSING FOLKS THAT HAVE A COMMITMENT TO POLICING ISSUES.

SO IF YOU LOCATE A MEMBER WHO BELONGS TO AN ORGANIZATION SUCH AS THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT TODAY, THAT'S A WAY TO DO BOTH.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE PROBLEM WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST WITH JUST HAVING A GROUP ASSIGNED A SPOT ON A COMMISSION MEANS IS THAT WHO GETS IN AND WHO GETS OUT? SO DO YOU INCLUDE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE? DO YOU INCLUDE THE ACLU, MALDEF, BLM, THE EQUITY COMMISSION? IF YOU TRY TO INCLUDE THEM ALL, THEN IT COMES UNWIELDY.

AND SO BUT I DO THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING FOLKS THAT ARE COMMITTED TO THE ISSUE AND AT LEAST HAVE SOME BASIC UNDERSTANDING AND INTEREST IN POLICE AND COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS IS A GOOD START.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU INDIRECTLY ALSO ANSWERED MY QUESTION THAT I HAD AROUND ORGANIZATIONS AND SEATS AT THE TABLE FOR ORGANIZATIONS.

AND SO I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS HERE, SO BEAR WITH ME.

YES. SO I KNOW THERE WAS MENTION OF THIS WITH REGARDS TO STAFFING.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WITHIN THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUTLINED.

SO THIS WOULDN'T BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO OUR TO OUR CITY.

WE WOULD ANTICIPATE ABSORBING THESE TASKS WITHIN THE WORK THAT WE ALREADY DO.

FOR INSTANCE, PERHAPS ANALYSTS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD SUPPORT THIS COMMISSION.

A PERSON FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND OF COURSE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE GUIDANCE AND THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BROADCASTING AND, YOU KNOW, CONDUCTING THE MEETINGS THEMSELVES.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OK. AND THEN LET'S SEE.

I THINK THAT'S IT. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

I JUST HAVE COMMENTS. THANKS.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION AND FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO PREPARING THE REPORT AND THINKING THROUGH THIS COMPLEX TOPIC AND ALSO THE RESEARCH LOOKING AT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING.

SO I HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS AND I'M TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE THEM FROM THE ONES THAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST ASKED BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT I WAS I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN.

AND I GUESS THIS THIS QUESTION IS FOR MR. [INAUDIBLE], WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN TERMS OF SIZE OF THIS KIND OF ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION, POLICE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION BECAUSE I DEFINITELY DO HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT HAVING A LOT OF INTEREST IN DIFFERENT GROUPS PARTICIPATING AND ALSO THE COUNCIL, OF COURSE, HAVING INTEREST IN GETTING GEOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY FROM ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS.

SO I HEARD THE NUMBER FIVE, BUT IS THAT WHAT YOU USUALLY SEE? MR. [INAUDIBLE] OR WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? AGAIN, THE THE RANGE OF COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS HAVE GENERALLY BEEN BETWEEN FIVE AND SEVEN.

I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME IN THE NINE, BUT THE LARGER IT GETS, THE MORE UNWIELDY GETS.

THEN YOU HAVE BROWN ACT ISSUES, YOU HAVE VACANCIES AND YOU HAVE QUORUM PROBLEMS. SO 5 TO 7, I WOULD SUGGEST IS PROBABLY THE SWEET SPOT AND THE ONE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE ONE THAT MOST JURISDICTIONS ARE LANDING ON WITH REGARD TO

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SIZE. GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I.

I WANTED TO PREFACE MY REMARKS WITH TELLING AGAIN AND EMPHASIZING THAT TO THE DEGREE THAT THIS REPORT IS INFORMATIVE, IT'S INFORMATIVE BECAUSE YOU ALL WERE SO HELPFUL AND CANDID IN THE ONE ON ONE MEETINGS WE HAD WITH YOU IN MARCH.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO MY SECOND QUESTION IS ABOUT THE QUOTE UNQUOTE, CLEAR LIST OF DUTIES THAT IS MENTIONED IN THE REPORT.

AND I CAN TELL THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT FOR COMMISSION TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY IT EXISTS AND WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

AND I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE SOME SAMPLE CLEAR LISTS OF DUTIES WERE PROVIDED OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE COUNCIL WOULD CREATE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD COME FROM.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? IF THERE IS AN INTEREST AND COUNCIL IS CONTINUED TO BE INTERESTED IN CREATING THIS COMMISSION, WE CAN PROVIDE CLEAR LIST OF DUTIES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS WE WORK WITH.

TO GET A SAMPLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

WHETHER THAT'S THE CITY OF DAVIS, CITY OF ANAHEIM, CITY OF BURBANK.

WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION IF YOU'D LIKE.

BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY THAT I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT COMMISSION AND BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE COMING ON BOARD NEED TO HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO AND ALSO WHAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED TO DO.

SO IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT.

WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.

AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERTISE AND AND THE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED ALREADY AND MAYBE WILL PROVIDE IN THE FUTURE.

THANKS. MR. NORTH. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE, I THINK, NINE COMMISSIONS RIGHT NOW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT ARE KIND OF FORMAL COMMISSIONS OF THE CITY.

THEY ALL REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO WITH THIS COMMISSION REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL OR WOULD IT REPORT TO THE POLICE CHIEF? OUR EXPERIENCE IS THE MORE EFFECTIVE COMMISSION'S REPORT TO EITHER COUNCIL OR CITY MANAGER OR COMBINATION OF BOTH.

BUT WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND COLLABORATE WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE, PARTICULARLY AT THE MEETINGS THEMSELVES.

AND THEN AS A KIND OF A PERSON IN THE FIELD, IN THIS FIELD, KIND OF NATIONALLY PRACTICING AND HAVE STOOD UP SEVERAL OF THESE COMMISSIONS, I'M KIND OF I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THIS IS A REAL PERSONALLY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A FAIRLY EASY DECISION FOR ME.

IT'S A REALLY, REALLY TOUGH CALL FOR ME.

AFTER HEARING SPEAKERS, DOING RESEARCH, LOOKING INTO IT.

I'M CERTAINLY NOT AN EXPERT ON THE TOPIC, AND SO I'M GOING TO RELY ON YOUR ANSWER HERE.

BUT ONE OF THE ON THE KIND OF THE DRAWBACK SIDE, IF YOU WILL, AND THERE'S PROS AND CONS AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE BEST PATTERN FORWARD.

AND I WANT TO EXPLORE THAT OPENLY.

THERE IS A YOU KNOW, I LOOK AROUND A NEARBY CITY JUST HAD A PLANNING COMMISSIONER RELEASED BECAUSE OF I THINK RUNNING FOR OFFICE BUT SOME MISDEED.

AND WE HAVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE KIND OF BLOWING UP AROUND US AS WELL.

AND THE POTENTIAL OF THIS COMMITTEE, GIVEN OUR NATIONAL POLITICS AND GIVEN WELL, CERTAINLY MY DISTRICT HAVING THREE REPRESENTATIVES AND ONE ELECTION CYCLE AND VACANCIES, THE POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR FOR SOME CONCERN IN TERMS OF THE CONDUCT AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD WE STAND ONE UPTAKES AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU YOUR EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH MANY OF THESE WHAT HOW YOU WOULD CHARACTERIZE THAT IN TERMS OF THEIR THEIR FUNCTIONING AFTER THEY'RE FORMED? AND HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THEIR EFFECTIVENESS OR THEIR FUNCTIONING? ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S ALWAYS THE CONCERN ABOUT A RUNAWAY COMMISSIONER BOARD.

AND I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO INSULATE THE CITY FROM FROM FROM THAT HAPPENING.

BUT AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, IN MY VIEW, IS A CAREFUL VETTING OF THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE POSITIONS.

IF, IN FACT, THE BOARD IS CREATED AND A VERY THOUGHTFUL APPOINTMENT PROCESS, IF IN FACT IT ENDS UP BEING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, TO HAVE A VERY CAREFUL VETTING PROCESS, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS AN INTEREST IN THE TOPIC BUT IS ALSO INTERESTED IN COLLABORATION, IS INTERESTED IN EDUCATION, IS INTERESTED IN IMPROVEMENT.

INSTEAD OF MORE DIVISIVE, INDIVIDUALS ALREADY HAVE THEIR MIND MADE UP ABOUT WHAT POLICING SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE.

YEAH. SO JUST IN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY WE HEARD TODAY, JUST KIND OF GOING DOWN MY LIST, WE'VE HEARD THAT NO POLICE OFFICERS, FORMER OR THEIR

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RELATIVES, SHOULD BE ON THE COMMISSION.

WE'VE HEARD A REQUEST TO HAVE THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION.

AND SO WE'RE KIND OF INTO THESE ISSUES OF WHO SERVES THE COMMISSION AND WHAT THE FORMAT OF THAT COMMISSION IS.

AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A OF A WARNING OR A LITTLE BIT OF A, YOU KNOW, MY MY I GUESS MY HAIR IS STANDING UP A LITTLE BIT ON THAT ISSUE.

AND THEN I HAVE SOME OUR KIND OF NORMAL OR TO DATE I SHOULD SAY NOT NORMAL, BUT TO DATE CONDUCT OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF THEIR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS THIS HAS TO GO WITH EXPENSES.

SO I'LL DIRECT IT TO OUR CITY STAFF AND PERHAPS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN WEIGH IN AS WELL.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A VOLUNTEER SENIOR PATROL.

THERE ARE SOME STAFFING REQUIREMENT OR SOME COST TO THE CITY FOR HAVING A VOLUNTEER SENIOR PATROL.

I KNOW THAT THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF A CADETS PROGRAM EITHER THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE, AND THERE'S PROBABLY SOME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND SOME LIAISON THAT GOES WITH THAT.

I HAVE ATTENDED SEVERAL CARLSBAD VILLAGE ASSOCIATION MEETINGS WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN PRESENT AND HAVE BEEN GIVING AN UPDATE OR CHAMBER MEETINGS OR NEIGHBORHOOD HOA MEETINGS. AND I WONDER IF ANYONE CAN KIND OF SO THIS IS JUST REALLY DEALING WITH A FISCAL QUESTION.

THERE'S COSTS TO IT, BUT I'M TRYING TO BALANCE THAT OUT WITH, WELL, WHAT COSTS ARE WE CURRENTLY INCURRING AND HOW MUCH OF THIS ARE WE ALREADY DOING IN THE COMMUNITY IF IT'S KIND OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, IS IT LARGER THAN I THINK IT IS OR SMALLER THAN I THINK IT IS OR ARE THERE ARE NO COSTS TO DOING THESE? NO STAFF COSTS ARE TO DOING THESE OUTREACHES.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMUNITY IS A VERY HIGH PRIORITY FOR US.

SO WE DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THAT ENDEAVOR.

WE ALSO SEEK EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY REGARDLESS OF THE ISSUE OR THE CONCERN, WHETHER IT'S A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR A MEMBER OR PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE A QUESTION OF A SPECIFIC TYPE OF POLICING ISSUE OR THAT SORT OF THING.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAKE A FOCUSED EFFORT TOWARDS.

AS FAR AS THE COST GOES, I THINK FOR POLICING OUR NUMBER ONE, MY NUMBER ONE GOAL AND RESPONSIBILITY AS A POLICE CHIEF IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LEAD THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A WAY THAT MAINTAINS AND ENHANCES ITS TRUST WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

POLICING REQUIRES TRUST.

AND SO AS WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE EXPEND OUR RESOURCES AND THAT SORT OF THING, WE INCORPORATE THE COST OF ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING THESE MEETINGS AND HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS AND PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION AS PART OF WHAT WE DO BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT. SO AS IT RELATES TO THIS SPECIFIC PROPOSAL, I WOULD EXPECT THAT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD INCORPORATE THIS INTO OUR REGULAR WORK.

THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY, TO SHARE INFORMATION, TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WOULDN'T EXPECT IT TO BE A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WELL, YOU'RE UP THERE WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE.

THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL OF OUR SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT AND I THINK I'LL ADD ONE TO IT, BUT KIND OF THE THE FREE SPEECH ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS MADE, THE DE-ESCALATION POLICY THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE.

I THINK ALSO THERE'S THERE WAS WORK ON THE RESPONSIBILITY TO INTERVENE ISSUE AS WELL FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR PERSON THERE.

AND THEY'VE BEEN CHARACTERIZED AS VERY POSITIVE AND VERY GOOD INTERACTIONS.

AND I JUST THINK I WOULD ASK YOU ON THE POLICE SIDE, IF YOU VIEW IT THE SAME WAY, I WOULD SAY.

ABSOLUTELY. AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, SPECIFICALLY GOING BACK TO OUR CRISIS MANAGEMENT DE-ESCALATION POLICY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M MOST PROUD ABOUT THAT POLICY WAS GAINED AS A RESULT OF THE COOPERATION THAT WE HAD WITH THE GROUP THAT WE WORKED WITH THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

IT WAS A MULTI-MONTH PROCESS, MANY MEETINGS, A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS.

BUT ACTUALLY ONE OF THE IN MY OPINION, THE ONE OF THE BEST FEATURES OF THIS POLICY THAT WE HAVE NOW EMPLOYED IS A DUTY TO INTERVENE, NOT FOR USE OF FORCE, WHICH WE ALREADY HAD, BUT ACTUALLY A DUTY TO INTERVENE FOR DE-ESCALATION PURPOSES.

AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS IT PROVIDES IT OPENS THE DOOR FOR LESS SENIOR OFFICERS, OFFICERS OF DIFFERENT RANK TO SPEAK UP AND SAY, HEY, IS THIS THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS SITUATION? IT DOESN'T JUST OPEN THE DOOR.

IT MAKES IT MANDATORY TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S HOW WE BECOME BETTER AT POLICING.

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THAT'S HOW WE BECOME MORE THOUGHTFUL AND THAT'S HOW WE BECOME MORE TRUSTED.

AND THAT SPECIFIC PIECE OF THAT POLICY CAME FROM A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE GROUP THAT WE WORKED WITH, AND I THANKED THEM AT THE TIME FOR THAT AND FOR THAT, AND I THANK THEM NOW FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S ONE OF THE BEST PIECES OF THAT POLICY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN BACK TO OUR OUR PRESENTER TODAY.

ARE YOU AWARE? SO I KIND OF GO BACK IN MY HISTORY AND IT'S IT'S NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD LOVED THAT PRESENTATION.

I GO BACK IN MY HISTORY AND WE'VE HAD A WE'VE HAD AN AMAZING SUCCESSFUL TRACK RECORD, A HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN TERMS OF A PAST COMMUNITY THAT I WAS PROFESSIONALLY WORKED IN, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A ACTIVE PRESERVATION COMMISSION AT THE CITY.

SO THIS WAS ALL DONE VIA NONPROFITS.

IT WAS ALL DONE WITH [INAUDIBLE].

IT WAS INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.

AND WE HAD A LOT OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS, JUST LIKE I'M HEARING NOW.

AND SO I'LL ASK YOU AGAIN ON YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, CAN THAT BE SUCCESSFUL? IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK I WOULD RATHER GROW A NONPROFIT AND HAVE AN INDEPENDENT VOICE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY PART OF A CITY HIERARCHY OR COMMISSION AND HAVE THAT SUPER, SUPER STRONG.

AND I KNOW THE OPTION IS ONE, TWO OR BOTH OR NONE, BUT HAVE YOU SEEN EXAMPLES OF THAT THAT HAVE BEEN AS EFFECTIVE AS A STANDING COMMISSION? I HAVEN'T.

I WILL SAY THIS, THOUGH, IN OUR LAP AROUND THE FIELD IN YOUR CITY, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I DID NOTE.

ONE IS THAT THIS WHOLE INITIATIVE IS RELATIVELY UNIQUE IN MY EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS IS SOMETHING CONTROVERSIAL OR BAD HAPPENS INVOLVING POLICE.

AND THEN I GET THE 911 CALL AND THEN I GET THE PANIC.

WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMUNITY.

THE FORTUNATE THING ABOUT THIS INITIATIVE IS THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN YOUR CITY.

IN FACT, QUITE THE CONTRARY.

THE WAY IN WHICH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROTESTS AFTER GEORGE FLOYD WERE HANDLED AS A RESULT OF THE LEADERSHIP OF OF YOUR POLICE CHIEF IS QUITE DIFFERENT IN STARK FROM MY OTHER EXPERIENCES MANY OTHER CITIES IN CALIFORNIA.

SO I THINK THAT IT CAN BE DONE AT A GRASSROOTS LEVEL THAT WAXES AND WANES THOUGH DEPENDING ON THE COMMITMENT OF THOSE MEMBERS AND THEY TEND TO BE MORE SINGULAR ISSUES.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT NOTHING CAN BE DONE.

AND IN FACT THINGS ARE BEING DONE, AS JEFF WILLIAMS HAS DEMONSTRATED AND THE SPEAKERS HAVE CONFIRMED DURING THEIR PRESENTATIONS.

SO BUT BUT THIS PROVIDES A MORE FORMAL FRAMEWORK, IF YOU WILL, SO THAT EVERY TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY CAN EITHER ATTEND OR RESPOND TO OR PARTICIPATE IN, UNLIKE THAT GRASSROOTS THING THAT IS MORE ORGANIC.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, MR. BLACKBURN? FIRST, I WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME ORIGINALLY BY THE CEC.

I'VE MET WITH THEM, I'VE MET WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, THE POLICE CHIEF CURRENT AND THE PRIOR POLICE CHIEF, AND AS WELL AS A LOT OF RESIDENTS. AND THE WAY THIS BEGAN WAS.

I WAS CONTACTED BY CSC AND THEY PICKED ME BECAUSE OF PRIOR EXPERIENCES AND I ASKED IF I COULD BRING IT.

AT THE TIME, IT WAS ASSISTANT CHIEF MICKEY WILLIAMS, AND I TRULY THOUGHT, THIS IS GOING TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL.

THIS WILL BE I'M GOING TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE IMPRESSED WITH THE OPEN MINDEDNESS OF THIS GROUP, THE CSC GROUP, AND I COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE IMPRESSED WITH THE PATIENCE AND ABILITY EXPLANATION THAT NOW CHIEF MICKEY WILLIAMS GAVE.

AND IT WAS.

FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

IT WAS UNBELIEVABLY WONDERFUL.

IT WAS TWO GROUPS WHO HAD TOTALLY DIFFERENT IDEAS AND FOUND OUT THAT THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.

THEY DID NOT HAVE TOTALLY DIFFERENT IDEAS.

SO I WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INDEPENDENT REPRESENTATIVES, I'M PICTURING FIVE RANDOM PEOPLE OR SELECTED BY THE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH POLICE, HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH ANY ADVOCACY GROUPS, WHETHER IT BE AN NAACP, ACLU, CEC AND THEM, AND BEING THAT VERY NEUTRAL GROUP.

I ALSO AM THINKING OF IT AS BEING A VERY SMALL, MANAGEABLE GROUP.

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AM I HEARING YOU SAY ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M WHAT I JUST SAID? YES, SIR. OKAY.

ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD WAS YOU TALKED ABOUT TRAINING THESE THESE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXPECTED TO ANSWER TECHNICAL POLICE QUESTIONS TO THE PUBLIC, ARE THEY? OR IS THIS TRAINING JUST FOR THEM TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THEMSELVES? IT'S INTENDED FOR THEM TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE EXPECTED TO DO AND THE INCREASED EXPECTATIONS OVER THE YEARS.

YES. SO I'M TRYING TO PICTURE WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

SO WE HAVE THE FIVE INDIVIDUALS SITTING, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE UP HERE ON THE DAIS.

AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO COMES IN AND SAYS, I HAVE A SUGGESTION, A COMPLAINT, A COMPLIMENT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN THEY'RE HEARD.

IS THAT THE EXTENT OF IT? THEY LISTEN AND THEN THEY GO BACK AND THEY REPORT WHAT THEY'VE HEARD TO THE POLICE CHIEF.

OR ARE YOU EXPECTING THE POLICE CHIEF TO BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR TO DEFEND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POSITIONS? I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND EVERY MEETING IS A BIT DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE AGENDA THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT IS DEVELOPED.

BUT AS I INDICATED, I THINK PART OF IT IS EDUCATIONAL TO EDUCATE THE COMMISSION AND ANY ATTENDEES, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IT PROVIDES A FORUM FOR THAT TO OCCUR. IT ALSO PROVIDES FOR AN AGGRIEVED INDIVIDUAL TO RAISE AN ISSUE.

IF A MEMBER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PRESENT, THEY CAN THEN TO THE DEGREE, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT WITH THE CONFIDENTIALITY RULES THEY CAN AT A LATER MEETING REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION ON WHETHER THAT WAS INVESTIGATED OR HOW IT WAS INVESTIGATED, ET CETERA, AND AT LEAST PROVIDE A LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT THE POLICE DID LOOK INTO IT.

OR IF IT'S NEW INFORMATION, THE CHIEF CAN DO WHATEVER HE WOULD DO WITH THAT INFORMATION IF HE RECEIVED IT IN ANY FORMAT AND THEN REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS IN WHICH THAT INFORMATION CAN BE PUSHED BACK AND FORWARD.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE COMMISSION THEMSELVES MAY THINK OF IDEAS THAT THEY WANT TO BE FURTHER DEVELOPED.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN ANAHEIM, THE POLICE REVIEW BOARD WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THE PROMOTIONAL PROCESS FOR LIEUTENANTS AND CAPTAINS AND WANTED TO SEE HOW THAT WORKED.

AND ONCE THEY LEARNED HOW THAT WORKED, AS IT ENDED UP TURNING OUT AS A RESULT OF THAT CONVERSATION, MEMBERS OF THAT BOARD ARE NOW SITTING IN ON THOSE PROMOTIONAL INTERVIEWS. SO THERE'S MORE ENGAGEMENT.

AND SO THERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE NEEDLE CAN BE MOVED A BIT AND THERE CAN BE MORE COMMUNITY INTEGRATION AS A RESULT OF LEARNING ABOUT THESE PROCESSES.

SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ASKING ME QUESTIONS, AND OF COURSE I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVEN DECIDED HOW THIS IS GOING TO LOOK. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS, IS IT BETTER TO NOT HAVE ANY POLICE PRESENCE THERE BECAUSE IT MIGHT INTIMIDATE WHY THEY'RE COMING TO A GROUP LIKE THIS.

AND RATHER THAN JUST SHOWING UP AT THE FRONT DOOR AT THE POLICE STATION TO GIVE THEIR THEIR IDEAS OR CRITICISMS OR COMPLIMENTS.

I THINK THAT'S NOT A GOOD MODEL.

I THINK THAT AT LEAST FOR PART OF THE MEETING, THE POLICE SHOULD BE THERE BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE POLICE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S BEING SAID, AND ALSO TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AS A TECHNICAL EXPERT OF WHAT POLICING IS ALL ABOUT, NOT TO COMMANDEER THE MEETING, NOT TO OVERRIDE THE MEETING, NOT TO DOMINATE THE MEETING, BUT TO CERTAINLY BE PRESENT AS A RESOURCE.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST MODEL.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

FINAL COMMENTS, DR.

BHAT-PATEL? SURE.

THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR CONSULTANTS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE HARD WORK ON THIS.

I KNOW THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR COUNCIL A FEW YEARS AGO AND SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TOGETHER FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN AND I DEFINITELY HAVE WORKED HAND IN HAND ON THAT IN THE PAST AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY CONTINUING TO HAVE A POSITIVE DIALOG ON THIS.

I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY GROUPS, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE HAD GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH REGARDS TO BRINGING FORWARD SOME OF THE DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

AND I DO HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT DIALOG.

I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, CHIEF WILLIAMS AND THE DEPARTMENT ARE COMMITTED TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WE TRY VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO BE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

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AND, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S GROWN UP HERE, I FEEL LIKE THAT AS WELL, DEFINITELY THAT WE'VE YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD WE'VE SEEN OUR POLICE OFFICERS OUT AND ABOUT AND THAT THEY'RE COMMITTED TO TRYING TO DO THE BEST JOB POSSIBLE.

I DO THINK THAT ALWAYS THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH, AS WE HEARD EARLIER.

AND AS YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS IS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THAT DIALOG PROACTIVELY.

I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONSULTANT MENTIONED THIS AS WELL, THAT WE WE WE THANKFULLY HAVE NOT HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE IT'S SPURRED THIS CONVERSATION.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND PUT INTO PLACE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE AN INCIDENT THAT COMES UP.

AND I DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT PROACTIVE DIALOG AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

AND SO WITH THAT, I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO SIMILARLY, LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN MENTIONED, WHETHER IT'S WITH OUR POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS.

I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE WRITTEN IN AND YOU KNOW, IT DOES ALLOW FOR US TO INCREASE COMMUNITY TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY AND BOTH SIDES SEE VALUE TO IT.

THEY DO.

THEY THINK THAT IT'LL ALLOW FOR THEM, FOR ALL OF THEM TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS I DO AGREE THAT WE FIND FOLKS WHO ARE UNBIASED, WHO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE.

WHEN I WAS READING THE REPORT AND JUST UNDERSTANDING IT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHEN WHEN YOU'RE SITTING AND MAKING ANY SORT OF DECISION ON THE DAIS, RIGHT? YOU'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO COME IN WITHOUT THAT, WITHOUT AN UNBIASED WITH AN UNBIASED APPROACH.

AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE A JURY MEMBER, RIGHT? YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT PARTICULAR REGARD.

SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW WE MENTIONED IS NOT NOT NECESSARILY HAVING AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD BE THERE MAKING DECISIONS PER SE.

ONE THING I DO WANT TO THROW OUT THERE IS THAT AT THE VERY LEAST, REPORTING BACK TO I KNOW THE CHIEF OF POLICE WILL BE THERE, BUT REPORTING BACK TO A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE POA JUST SO THAT THEY'RE ALSO PART OF THE PROCESS AND THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND IF IT'S POSSIBLE.

AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE NOT MAKING THAT DECISION TODAY, BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE FOR THOUGHT.

AND AGAIN, I THINK EVERYONE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY MOVING OPTION NUMBER TWO FORWARD.

THANKS. GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I WANT TO ECHO THE THANKS TO STAFF AND TO THE CONSULTANT AND ESPECIALLY CALL OUT CHIEF WILLIAMS FOR HIS EXCELLENT WORK, BECAUSE I KNOW BEFORE HE BECAME CHIEF, HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THE ENGAGEMENT ISSUES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY.

AND AND RELATED TO THAT, I REMEMBER DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE'VE NOT HAD A LOT OF ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN PERSON.

BUT THERE WAS A MEET THE CHIEF EVENT THAT THE CHIEF HAD IN EVERY DISTRICT.

WE HAD TOWN HALLS TO TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THIS KIND OF A COMMISSION AND POLICE ISSUES IN EVERY DISTRICT THAT WERE VIRTUAL ON ZOOM.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO TO COMING BACK IS THE COFFEE WITH THE COP EVENTS BECAUSE I REALLY LIKED THOSE AND THEY WERE JUST IN AN ABILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TO INTERACT WITH LOCAL OFFICERS IN THE COMMUNITY TO TO BRIDGE THAT GAP.

WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT BRIDGING THE GAP.

ANY ANY SENSE THAT THERE'S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE WANT TO CLOSE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

IT'S ABOUT ENGAGEMENT AND BRINGING US CLOSER, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING GREAT THINGS.

BUT WE SOMETIMES IN THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS THAT COME TO US AT THE COUNCIL LIKE WE WANT MORE, WE WANT MORE ENGAGEMENT.

SO TO INCREASE DIALOG, ENGAGEMENT AND TRUST A WORD THAT WE'VE USED SEVERAL TIMES, I DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THIS PROCESS THAT WE ESTABLISHED IN 2020 OF EXPLORING THIS COMMISSION.

AND I THINK THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO TO APPROVE OPTION NUMBER TWO AND TO JUST TO SPECIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HEARD EARLIER.

I LIKED THE IDEA OF QUARTERLY MEETINGS AND I LIKED THE PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'M NOT SURE HOW OFTEN THAT WOULD BE.

THE SUGGESTION WAS ANNUAL, I THINK, BUT IT MIGHT BE TWICE A YEAR, I'M NOT SURE.

BUT SIMILAR TO OUR OTHER COMMITTEES, WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THIS.

OUR OTHER COMMISSIONS HAVE WORK PLANS THAT THE COMMISSIONS DEVELOP AND THEY BRING TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY TIES IN WITH THE SUGGESTION THAT THERE BE SOME KIND OF REVIEW PROCESS BY THE COUNCIL, AND WE ALREADY HAVE THAT FOR OUR OTHER COMMISSIONS WHEN WE APPROVE THEIR WORK PLANS.

SO I THINK THAT IF WE JUST FOLLOW A SIMILAR MODEL TO OUR OTHER COMMISSIONS, THAT WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL.

SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE.

I'M PLEASED WITH ALL OF THE COLLABORATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU. MR.

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NORBY? I HEARD ONE OF THE SPEAKERS KIND OF RECALL THIS WAS A 2-2 COMMISSION AT SOME VOTE.

THIS THIS BODY VOTED 2-2 ON THIS ISSUE AT SOME EARLIER TIME.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE I OFFER MY COMMENT.

I THINK I COULD BE INFORMED BY THOSE.

IT'S A NEW COMMENT.

IT'S A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO IF THAT'S OKAY, I'D LIKE TO TO WAIT.

I CAN CERTAINLY GO NOW, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO.

MR. BLACKBURN, I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I HAVE 100% TRUST IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT I'D BE VERY NAIVE TO BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY SHARES THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEIR DISTRUST IS BASED ON.

I THINK THIS COULD HELP BRIDGE THAT WITH WHETHER IT BE EDUCATION OR KNOWLEDGE OR WHATEVER IT TAKES TO HELP BRIDGE.

IT WON'T GET 100%, BUT IT'S WORTH AN ATTEMPT TO HELP SOME PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY THE POLICE DO WHAT THEY DO.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP. BUT WITH THAT SAID, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY WELL UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS NOT A POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

THIS IS A COMMUNITY SLASH POLICE ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE VERY NIMBLE WITH ONLY FIVE MEMBERS, WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER SELECTING ONE OF THOSE THOSE MEMBERS.

I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT IT BE IMPARTIAL, INDEPENDENT OF ANY SPECIAL INTERESTS, WHETHER IT BE POLICE OR WHETHER IT BE SOME OF THE OTHER THE OTHER SIDE. ONE OF THE GOALS YOU SAID I WROTE DOWN THAT THIS IS A CIVILIAN COMMISSION TO SERVE AS A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND AS LONG AS THAT'S OUR MISSION, I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THIS.

I'VE SPOKE WITH ADMINISTRATION AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THEY SUPPORT IT. I SPOKE WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

THEY SUPPORT IT. I'VE TALKED WITH RESIDENTS WHO MAY NOT HAVE SUPPORTED IT UNTIL THEY UNDERSTOOD THE ENTIRE DYNAMIC.

AND AFTER AN EXPLANATION, THEY SUPPORT IT.

AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE MEMBERS, OR AT LEAST ONE YESTERDAY OF CEC VIA TELEPHONE.

AND IN GENERAL, HE SUPPORTS THIS AS WELL.

SO I'M GOING TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

I'M GOING TO CROSS MY FINGERS, HOPE WE CAN WORK OUT ALL THE BUGS, WORK OUT FIGURING OUT HOW IT WORKS AND IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND BENEFICIAL FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. OKAY.

BEFORE I START WITH MY COMMENTS, I JUST WANT TO VERIFY WHAT MR. NORBY SAID ABOUT NINE COMMISSIONS.

HOW MANY COMMISSIONS DO WE HAVE? THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE 15 COMMISSIONS CURRENTLY THAT REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CREATION OF THIS ONE WOULD BE NUMBER 16.

OK THEN MY THOUGHTS.

SO I LISTENED VERY CLOSELY TONIGHT TO ALMOST EVERY SPEAKER HERE, AND THERE WERE SOME GENERAL THEMES.

FIRST THEME, EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY WITH HOW THINGS WERE GOING THE WAY IT IS TODAY.

ALMOST EVERY SPEAKER SPOKE TO HOW WELL THEY APPRECIATED WORKING WITH OUR POLICE CHIEF AND ALL THE DIALOG.

THE SECOND THING I HEARD WAS THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS POLITICAL PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

THEY WANTED TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

I LISTENED TO ALL FOUR OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE DID VIRTUALLY.

THOSE MEETINGS WERE EXTREMELY CONTENTIOUS.

THERE WERE CLEARLY TWO DIFFERENT SIDES.

SO IT IS GOING TO BE REAL CHALLENGING.

AND YOU'RE ASKING A POLITICAL BODY NOT TO BE POLITICAL AND TO PUT FIVE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

I THINK WHAT IS WORKING TODAY IS PROBABLY AN EXAMPLE OF HOW IT SHOULD WORK THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

IT'S HOW WE CAN SIT DOWN AND SPEAK WITHOUT GOVERNMENT BEING THE OVERSIGHT.

ONCE WE BECOME INVOLVED IN THIS, THIS IS GOING TO BECOME POLITICAL.

THERE'S NO OTHER WAY.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 30 YEARS.

I UNDERSTAND HOW COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS ARE MADE UP.

SO TODAY I BELIEVE IN OUR POLICE CHIEF.

I BELIEVE IN ALL YOU SPEAKERS AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN US BE ABLE TO DO AND HOW WE'VE COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY WITHOUT THE FORMALITY.

THAT WILL BE THE FAILURE OF HOW WE ARE DOING THIS TODAY.

TOMORROW WILL NOT BE THE SAME.

MR. BLACKBURN. ARE YOU ASKING ME FOR A MOTION? NO. YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO.

OH, NO. OH, I'M SORRY. OH, NO.

EXCUSE ME, MR. NORBY.

THANK YOU. SO 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD.

SO I'VE BEEN ON THE DAIS NOW, I THINK CLOSE TO A YEAR.

I HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONCERNS OR ISSUES OR ANYTHING IN MY 40 YEARS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

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I THINK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BY THEIR ACTIONS AND THEIR MERIT, HAVE EARNED THE TRUST THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.

WE HAVE SPOKEN MANY TIMES ABOUT HOW PRECIOUS AND HOW FRAGILE THAT TRUST IS AND HOW HIGHLY REGARDED IT IS BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO KEEP THAT TRUST.

I HAVE NOT HAD ONE CALL OR ONE EMAIL DURING MY TIME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS ISSUE, OTHER THAN THIS AGENDA ITEM, BUT NOT A PERSONAL CALL OR A PERSONAL ISSUE.

AND I SPEAK WITH, GOSH, PROBABLY 20 A WEEK.

I WOULD SAY THAT I'M INTERVENING OR HELPING OUT OR TRYING TO ASSIST OR.

CONSTITUENT SERVICES.

BUT I ALSO DIDN'T EXPECT TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD A MURDER, LIKE LIKE SHOCKINGLY, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

I MEAN, I HAVEN'T EXPECTED COVID.

I HAVEN'T EXPECTED THE HOMELESS SITUATION TO HAPPEN.

OUR EXPENDITURE ON THE HOMELESS SITUATION WITH A HOT TEAM RESPONDING TO THAT AND I LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY AS AS CHANGING.

WE ARE GOING FROM A GROWTH COMMUNITY TO A BUILT UP COMMUNITY.

WE ARE BECOMING MORE DIVERSE.

WE ARE FACING ISSUES THAT WE'VE NEVER FACED.

THE NATIONAL CLIMATE IS, I THINK, HOT IN TERMS OF POLITICS.

IT'S A WORD I WOULD USE.

DIFFICULT. THE CONVERSATION IS DIFFICULT.

THE LANGUAGE IS AWFUL THAT IS USED.

AND SO WE HAVE WE HAVE WITH THAT EXPECTATION, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKBURN SAID IT THE BEST AS WE KIND OF ENTERED DOWN THIS PATH AND STARTED WORKING, THE EXPECTATION WAS, OH BOY, THIS COULD REALLY BE A STICKY WICKET, THIS COULD BE A PROBLEM, THIS COULD BE AN ISSUE.

IT IS TWO SIDES TO AGENDAS AND AND THE RESULT WAS COMPLETELY OPPOSITE AND IT BLEW EVERYBODY AWAY.

AND I CAN'T REMEMBER DEPUTY MAYOR BLACKBURN'S WORDS ABOUT HOW WONDERFULLY MAGNIFICENT THE RESULT WAS AND HOW WELL OUR COMMUNITY RESPONDED. AND THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION RESPONDED AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED.

AND I'M GOING TO BE I'M GOING TO BE HOPEFUL THAT THAT IS THE CASE HERE.

I HEAR OUR MAYOR'S WORDS.

I SHARE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL.

I THINK I GOT THE NUMBER NINE BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD NINE COMMISSIONS THAT WE WENT INTO OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT TO POLICY, NOT ALL 15, BUT WE DO HAVE 15 COMMISSIONERS THAT REPORT TO THIS COUNCIL.

AND I KNOW THAT OUR BUDGET AND OUR EXPENDITURES AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMUNITY IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

IT IS THE MAJORITY OF OUR FISCAL EXPENDITURES AND IT IS, QUITE FRANKLY, KEEPING OUR PUBLIC SAFE AND KEEPING THEM ESSENTIALLY SECURE.

AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK IT'S TIME TO DO THIS AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO STAND THIS UP.

SHOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT IS WE'RE UNABLE TO HANDLE OR IT'S A POLITICAL HOT POTATO OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE? I THINK THIS COUNCIL WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHUT IT DOWN.

AND IF IT GROWS INTO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT, I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHUT IT DOWN.

I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THE FISCAL ASPECTS OF IT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING SO MUCH OUTREACH RIGHT NOW TO SO MANY GROUPS THAT COST MONEY.

IT'S A PERCENTAGE. IT'S PART OF WHAT WE DO.

I CAN'T IMAGINE POLICING WHERE YOU DIDN'T DO THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST PART OF THE JOB AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO YOUR JOB BETTER IF YOU DO THAT.

I'M ALSO AWARE OF THE DIVERSITY OF DISTRICT ONE, AND SO I HAVE MY OPINION, I HAVE MY POSITION, BUT I HAVE A VERY DIVERSE AND VERY, I THINK, A WONDERFUL DISTRICT WITH PROBABLY THE MOST DIVERSITY WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IN MY DISTRICT.

IT'S ALSO AN ISSUE WHERE A LOT OF THE A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENS.

SO WHEN WE HAVE PUBLIC DEMONSTRATIONS, WHEN WE HAVE FIRST AMENDMENT PEACEFUL PROTEST, A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAPPEN IN DOWNTOWN.

THAT'S JUST ALL ALL ACROSS THE NATION THAT THAT HAPPENS.

SO I'M AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.

AND I WANT TO HAVE AS MUCH EXPRESSION AS POSSIBLE ON ISSUES.

AND I THINK IF WE WOULD DO WHAT IS PROBABLY MORE COMMON IS THAT THERE IS.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT ISSUE WILL HIT OUR NATION OR WE'LL HIT CARLSBAD.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOMORROW.

I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

BUT I KNOW THAT STANDING UP A COMMISSION AND SETTING THE RULES AND GETTING IT GOING IS MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE TO DO IT IN CALM WATERS RATHER THAN ROUGH WATERS.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO DO THAT.

AND I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS A PERSON, I'LL SAY, WELL, THIS IS MY ISSUE, THIS IS MY OPINION, THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN.

BUT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IT'S EVERYBODY IN THE BOAT AND IT'S ALL CITIZENS.

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AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DOES NOT SHARE THE SAME LEVEL OF TRUST THAT I SHARE OR DOES NOT SHARE THE SAME LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT I SHARE OR HAS SOME ISSUES THAT I DON'T HAVE.

BUT I KNOW THAT PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION EXISTS IN MY COMMUNITY AND IN MY DISTRICT.

AND SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO JUST GO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO HAVE AS MUCH INTERACTION AS WE CAN.

SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

I WOULD ALSO ON KIND OF ITEM NUMBER ONE, I'D LIKE TO SEE AND THIS IS REALLY A CHALLENGE TO THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COMMISSION BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN STAND UP A COMMISSION, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN HAVE CITIZENS, THEY CAN INFORM THE COUNCIL, CITIZENS CAN GO AND BE PART OF THIS.

BUT THE REAL WORK AND THE REAL, I THINK GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO COME FROM OUR NONPROFITS AND IT'S GOING TO COME FROM OUR CITIZENS.

AND THAT VOICE IS AN INDEPENDENT VOICE.

AND SO IF WE'RE OFF THE RAILS OR WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, I WANT A PERSON OR A GROUP WHO CAN COME IN THAT IS NOT WORRIED ABOUT A COMMISSION SEAT OR NOT WORRIED ABOUT A BUDGET OR NOT WORRIED ABOUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET REAPPOINTED.

BUT JUST GIVE IT TO US FROM THE HEART, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT ISSUE IS.

AND SO I WANT TO CHALLENGE THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION TO GROW, TO BECOME MORE ACTIVE.

I'D LOVE TO SEE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ENGAGE WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHETHER IT'S QUARTERLY OR SEMIANNUAL, AS WE DO REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL.

IF WE HAVE A NONPROFIT HERE THAT IS PRACTICING IN THIS VERY FIELD, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT NONPROFIT AS PART OF THAT REPORT.

MAYBE NOT EVERY TIME, BUT ONCE IN A WHILE.

AND SO MUCH LIKE WE ENGAGE, WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ENGAGING IN THAT AND STAFF ENGAGING WITH THAT.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE ENGAGEMENT OF OUR STAFF WITH THE WITH THE CARLSBAD EQUALITY COALITION.

AND MAYBE THERE WAS TWO OR THREE OTHERS THAT WERE MENTIONED, NORTH COUNTY GROUPS AND NAACP GROUPS.

AND SO MAYBE THERE IS THIS KIND OF SEMIANNUAL OR QUARTERLY GROUP THAT'S KIND OF A MULTI JURISDICTION OR MULTI NONPROFIT THAT THAT CAN ASSIST OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

MR. BLACKBURN, A MOTION? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION OF STAFF TODAY.

WE'RE JUST SAYING WE LIKE THE IDEA.

WE ARE WE HAVE NOT DECIDED WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

EXACTLY. IS THAT ACCURATE STATEMENT? CORRECT. WE WOULD COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE BASED ON THE REPORT THAT WE PRESENTED.

AND AT THAT TIME, IF YOU WANT CHANGES TO THAT ORDINANCE, IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE WHAT WE PRESENTED, YOU COULD MAKE MODIFICATIONS.

BUT WE WOULD BASE THE ORDINANCE ON WHAT'S IN THE REPORT FROM MR. TANAKA. OKAY, IF I MAY, THROUGH THE CHAIR, IS THERE AN EXPECTED TIMELINE ON WHEN THAT COMES BACK TO US? SO I'M SELFISHLY ASKING JUST I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEED TO DRAFT THE ORDINANCE AND IT WOULD FIRST NEED TO BE INTRODUCED.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AT THE NEXT MEETING, ADOPTED AND EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS LATER, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO DO THE.

OKAY, SO SO NO ANSWER AT THIS POINT IN TIME UNLESS THEY HAVE AN ANSWER.

I DON'T EVEN THINK WE CAN GET IT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THE FALL.

JUST BASED ON WHAT THE AGENDAS LOOK LIKE NOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO FOR THE MOTION, ARE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR BRING BACK AT ANOTHER MEETING YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE? YES, I'M BASED ON THE REPORT THAT OUR GROUP HAS PREPARED AND THAT'LL INCLUDE THE INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL TODAY.

CORRECT. THAT'S MY MOTION.

MAY I CLARIFY? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT.

IF THAT'S OKAY. WHAT.

WHAT I HAVE DONE IS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN ORDINANCE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE REPORT THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.

I HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL THAT.

I'M SORRY. SOME OF YOU SAID ALL THE SAME THINGS.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID JUST BY YOURSELF, THAT LITTLE CONCERN ABOUT MAKING IT INCLUSIVE AND THAT SOME OF THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE STANDARDLY HAVE FOR OUR BOARDS NOT WANTING TO EXCLUDE ANYONE FROM THIS BOARD.

I JUST WANTED TO CALL AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT SOME OF THOSE QUALIFICATIONS YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, LIKE PRIOR BOARD PARTICIPATION, THOSE ARE DISCRETIONARY QUALIFICATIONS FOR WHOEVER THE APPOINTING PERSON IS.

SO AS LONG AS YOU WANT TO JUST KEEP IT STANDARD AND NOT CALL IT THAT SPECIFIC, WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.

YOU ALSO HAD ASKED FOR A CPO, A REPORT OUT.

THIS WOULD BE A PUBLIC MEETING.

THERE WOULD BE MINUTES. THOSE MINUTES WOULD BE POSTED ONLINE THERE, AND THE MEETING ITSELF WOULD ALSO BE ONLINE.

WOULD YOU STILL WANT CONSIDERATION OF A REPORT OUT UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES? THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAID.

YEAH. WELL, I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM.

I'M SORRY. I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM SO THAT YOU KNEW.

SO THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMEMBER BHAT-PATEL SPECIFICALLY WANTED.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA I HAD WAS INTERESTED IN QUARTERLY MEETINGS.

SHE WAS ALSO INTERESTED IN AN ANNUAL PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

OUR REGULAR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A WORK PLAN TO THE COUNCIL ANNUALLY.

THEY'RE ALSO SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT PERIODIC WRITTEN REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL.

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MY MEMORY IS THAT THEY OFTEN DO THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER, SO THERE WOULD BE PROBABLY AT LEAST AN ANNUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO DO THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN WAS INTERESTED IN THAT.

ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL COMMISSION BE DISINTERESTED AND THAT IT BE LIMITED TO FIVE MEMBERS AND THAT THE GENERAL DUTIES WOULD BE POLICE AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND NOT OVERSIGHT.

SO THOSE WERE THE NOTES THAT I WROTE DOWN.

DID I MISS ONE? SORRY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I THINK THAT MY COMMENT WAS CAUGHT THAT IT BE A COMMISSION THAT REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND NOT THE POLICE CHIEF.

AND ALL COMMISSIONS RIGHT NOW DO REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

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I'VE HEARD IT BOTH WAYS, AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT REPORTS TO THIS BODY.

OKAY. SO THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS, MAYOR PRO TEM THAT I HEARD AS THEY WERE SPEAKING, AS PEOPLE WERE SPEAKING.

OKAY. MAYOR, CAN I CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING? I DON'T KNOW IF IN THE MOTION WE INCLUDED THAT THIS WOULD BE CALLED THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY POLICE ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION, BUT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT IN THE MOTION. SO THIS MOTION, WHEN I SAY ALL THIS WILL BE INCLUDED, THIS IS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR STAFF TO MASSAGE AND BRING BACK TO THE BEST THEY CAN. IT'S NOT IT HAS TO HAVE EVERY ONE OF THESE CONDITIONS.

IS THAT ACCURATE? CORRECT.

WE CAN BRING THIS BACK. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACCURATELY CAPTURED THE COMMENTS THAT WE WERE RECEIVING TONIGHT.

MY MOTION IS THAT STAFF BRING THIS BACK CONSIDERING ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS HAS SHARED.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

WHOA. WHOA. I'M SORRY.

I'M. I WANT TO VOTE NO.

RESET IT.

NO, NO, NO.

IT PASSES FOUR-ONE.

OKAY. DO WE WANT TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? YES. DR. BHAT-PATEL IS ASKING FOR A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

NO, IT'S USUALLY KEITH.

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NEXT ITEM UP IS ITEM TEN, HOMELESS QUARTERLY UPDATE FOR JANUARY 1ST THROUGH MARCH 31ST IN.

MR. PANTANO, YOU WANT TO THANK YOU.

MAKE THE INTRODUCTIONS DURING THE PRESENTATION WILL BE OUR HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICE SERVICES DIRECTOR MANDY MILLS.

SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER CHRIS SCHILLING AND POLICE LIEUTENANT DARBY ERNST.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

TONIGHT, WE WILL BE PRESENTING OUR THIRD QUARTERLY REPORT ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S GOAL TO REDUCE HOMELESSNESS IN CARLSBAD.

THIS PERIOD COVERS JANUARY 1ST THROUGH MARCH 31ST OF 2022.

PRESENTING WITH ME TONIGHT ARE CHRIS SCHILLING FROM THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND LIEUTENANT DARBY ERNST FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, LAST YEAR THE CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED A GOAL TO REDUCE THE UNSHELTERED HOMELESS POPULATION BY 50% OVER FIVE YEARS AND PROVIDE QUARTERLY REPORTS FOR FIVE YEARS OR UNTIL THE GOAL IS MET.

TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL, THE CITY HAS DEVELOPED A COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE OF INITIATIVES STRATEGICALLY DESIGNED TO MAKE BOTH SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM IMPACTS ON THE

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HOMELESSNESS CONCERNS IN CARLSBAD.

THE PUBLISHED QUARTERLY REPORT DETAILS THE MEASURABLE PROGRESS MADE IN THE CITY'S EFFORTS FROM JANUARY TO MARCH TOWARD THE OVERALL GOAL OF REDUCING HOMELESSNESS.

THE RESULTS ACROSS MOST MEASURES CONTINUE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS QUARTERS SHOWING STEADY PROGRESS TO BE MADE AGAINST THE COUNCIL'S GOAL.

ADDITIONALLY, TONIGHT, WE WILL BE PROVIDING THE DATA FROM THE ANNUAL POINT IN TIME COUNT AND ALSO A SIX MONTH UPDATE ON THE LIMITED TERM MOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM.

IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC WORK PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT WE EXPECT ALL FISCAL YEAR TASKS TO BE COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND AS SHOWN ON THIS CHART THROUGH THE THIRD QUARTER, THE CITY HAS EXPENDED JUST UNDER $2 MILLION.

SO 1,985,000.

THE NEXT PIE CHART HERE SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN SPENT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, A HIGH PRIORITY IS AN ACTIVE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM KNOWN AS THE HOT TEAM.

THE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE HOT TEAM WORK WITH SOCIAL WORKERS FROM INTERFAITH COMMUNITY SERVICES TO HELP CONNECT FOLKS IN THE FIELD WITH APPROPRIATE SERVICES.

THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF THIRD PARTY CONTRACTS FOR PORTABLE TOILETS, ENCAMPMENT CLEANUP AND RAPID REHOUSING EFFORTS.

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO CHRIS SCHILLING TO SHARE DATA FROM THE MOST RECENT POINT IN TIME COUNT.

THANK YOU. NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO COVER DATA FROM THE 2022 POINT IN TIME COUNT, WHICH WAS RELEASED ON MAY 19, 2022.

THE CITY USES MULTIPLE MEASUREMENTS TO EVALUATE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF REDUCING ITS UNSHELTERED HOMELESS POPULATION.

THE ANNUAL POINT IN TIME COUNT IS ONE DATA SOURCE TO GAUGE THE YEAR OVER YEAR TRENDS AND APPROXIMATE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN CARLSBAD.

AS A REMINDER, THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS AN DUPLICATED COUNT OF SHELTERED AND UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, NORMALLY CONDUCTED DURING THE LAST WEEK IN JANUARY.

SINCE 2005, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT HAS REQUIRED ALL CONTINUUM OF CARE WHO RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDING TO PROVIDE A BI ANNUAL ACCOUNT.

THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY REGION TYPICALLY EXCEEDS THIS REQUIREMENT BY CONDUCTING A COUNT EVERY YEAR.

HOWEVER, LAST YEAR'S COUNT WAS CANCELED DUE TO THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC.

THIS IS THE FIRST UNSHELTERED COUNT SINCE 2020.

WHILE THE POINT IN TIME COUNT DOES NOT GIVE THE COMPLETE PICTURE ON HOW MANY PEOPLE EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS IN CARLSBAD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

IT DOES PROVIDE A SNAPSHOT OF THE APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF HOMELESS PERSONS THERE ARE IN CARLSBAD ON A GIVEN DAY.

IT IS ONE OF THE TOOLS USED NATIONALLY TO ASSESS PROGRESS EACH YEAR TOWARDS THE GOAL OF REDUCING HOMELESSNESS AND IS OFTEN USED FOR FUNDING DECISIONS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, THE REGIONAL POINT IN TIME COUNT WAS MOVED FROM THE LAST WEEK OF JANUARY TO FEBRUARY 24TH.

2020 TO FEBRUARY 2022 WAS ONE OF THE COLDEST MONTHS IN SAN DIEGO HISTORY, AND DURING THE WEEK OF THE COUNT, THE COUNTY WAS EXPERIENCING THE COLDEST WEATHER OF THE MONTH.

DURING TIMES OF EXTREMELY COLD WEATHER, THE HOMELESS POPULATION MAY SEEK LOCATIONS WITH MORE PROTECTIONS AGAINST THE ELEMENTS, WHICH ARE HARDER FOR VOLUNTEER CANVASSERS TO IDENTIFY. DURING THESE TIMES, PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS MAY ALSO USE ANY MONEY THEY HAVE TO SECURE A MOTEL ROOM FOR THE NIGHT.

THESE FACTORS MAY HAVE HAD AN IMPACT ON THE LOWER 2022 NUMBERS.

HOWEVER, THESE FACTORS WERE NOT UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, AND WE DID SEE INCREASES IN THE NUMBERS THROUGHOUT OTHER AREAS OF NORTH COUNTY.

SO AS WE CAN SEE HERE IN THIS CHART ON THE NIGHT OF THE POINT IN TIME, COUNT CALLS THAT COUNTED 118 INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITHIN THE CITY.

OF THESE, 43 WERE SHELTERED AND 75 WERE UNSHELTERED.

THE NORTH COUNTY COASTAL REGION, WHICH INCLUDES CARLSBAD, OCEANSIDE, ENCINITAS, SANTA GUIDO, SOLANA BEACH AND DEL MAR, COUNTED 745 INDIVIDUALS. IN COMPARING THE DATA FROM 2020 TO 2022, CARLSBAD SAW A 20% DECREASE IN BOTH THE SHELTERED AND UNSHELTERED NUMBERS FROM A TOTAL OF 148 INDIVIDUALS IN 2020 TO A TOTAL OF 118 INDIVIDUALS IN 2022.

THE NORTH COUNTY COASTAL REGION AS A WHOLE SAW A 20% INCREASE FROM 621 INDIVIDUALS IN 2020 TO 745 INDIVIDUALS IN 2022. IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE, BUT THE NORTH COUNTY INLAND REGION ALSO SAW AN INCREASE FROM 570 INDIVIDUALS IN 2020 TO 697 INDIVIDUALS IN 2022.

AS A WHOLE, NORTH COUNTY SAW A 21% INCREASE AND NOW REPRESENTS 17% OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

THE DECREASE 2022 POINT IN TIME.

COUNT FIGURES IN CARLSBAD SUGGEST A TREND TOWARDS A DECREASE IN THOSE EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IN CARLSBAD.

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AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS GRAPH OF THE UNSHELTERED NUMBERS, THE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN TRENDING DOWNWARD SINCE THE HIGH OF 152 UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS IN 2018.

AGAIN, WHILE THE COUNT CONTAINS USEFUL DATA TO POINT OUT REGIONAL TRENDS, IT ONLY PROVIDES A SNAPSHOT OF INFORMATION WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT ACCURATELY REFLECT THE SIZE OF THE CITY'S HOMELESS POPULATION OVER A SUSTAINED PERIOD OF TIME.

FOR THIS REASON, THE COUNT SHOULD NOT BE USED AS THE ONLY DATA TO DETERMINE ACHIEVEMENTS TOWARDS THE CITY COUNCIL'S GOAL OF REDUCING HOMELESSNESS IN CARLSBAD.

THIS IS WHY STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO REPORT ON A VARIETY OF DATA POINTS TO INFORM THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PROGRESS THE CITY IS MAKING TOWARDS ITS GOAL TO REDUCE HOMELESSNESS. THE POINT AT TIME COUNT ALSO PROVIDES DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE POPULATION OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS ACCOUNTS, OVER 90% OF PEOPLE REPORTED LIVING IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY PRIOR TO BECOMING HOMELESS.

THE MAJORITY OF INDIVIDUALS ARE MALE AND OVER THE AGE OF 44, 87% ARE WHITE AND 38% REPORT HAVING A DISABILITY.

NOW WE'D LIKE TO GO OVER SOME OF THE HIGH LEVEL ACCOMPLISHMENTS FROM THE PAST QUARTER, WHICH COVERS THE PERIOD FROM JANUARY 1ST TO MARCH 31.

THESE OUTCOMES REFLECT THE COMBINED WORK OF ALL CITY STAFF AND CITY FUNDED CONTRACTORS SERVING THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY IN CARLSBAD.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSITION 12 PEOPLE INTO PERMANENT HOUSING DESTINATIONS DURING THE QUARTER.

THIS BRINGS US TO A TOTAL OF 50 PEOPLE TRANSITION TO PERMANENT HOUSING DESTINATIONS THROUGH THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

DURING THE THIRD QUARTER, WE ALSO MADE 309 UNDUPLICATED CONTACTS.

THIS IS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF UNDUPLICATED CONTACTS FOR A QUARTER SO FAR DURING THE FISCAL YEAR.

WE ALSO HELP PLACE 39 PEOPLE IN TEMPORARY SHELTER, PROVIDED 41 HOTEL VOUCHER NIGHTS AND THERE WERE 2585 POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE. THE VOUCHER NIGHTS AND POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE WILL FURTHER BE EXPLAINED LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION.

I'LL NOW TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO LIEUTENANT ERNST.

THANK YOU. URBAN CORE OF SAN DIEGO IS CONTRACTED TO WORK IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND ATTACHED TO THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM FOUR DAYS A WEEK FROM 7 A.M.

TO 230. WELL, THEY ARE IN THE CITY.

THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING TO KEEP THE CITY FREE OF DEBRIS RELATED TO THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS BY ASSISTING IN CAMP CLEANUPS, POWER WASHING AND LITTER REMOVAL.

FROM JANUARY 1ST TO MARCH 31ST, URBAN CORE WAS ACCESSIBLE FOR 48 DAYS.

THEY HELPED HOT CLEAN 16 ENCAMPMENTS OVER A FIVE DAY SCHEDULE.

IN ADDITION TO THE ENCAMPMENTS AND THE CLEANUP AND THE LITTER REMOVAL, THEY WERE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSISTING IN CONFISCATING AND RETURNING 48 SHOPPING CARTS.

AND JUST AN ADDED NOTE RELATED TO THE SHOPPING CARTS, 13 CITATIONS WERE ISSUED AND THREE WARNINGS WERE ISSUED.

FROM JANUARY 1ST TO MARCH 31ST, CALLS FOR SERVICE RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS ACCOUNTED FOR 10% OF THE TOTAL CALLS OF SERVICE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THIS QUARTER, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REPORTING 2585 CALLS FOR SERVICE RELATED TO INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

FROM JANUARY 1ST TO MARCH 31ST, WE RECORDED 1656 SELF-INITIATED CALLS FOR SERVICE.

AS A REMINDER, SELF INITIATED CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE THE RESULT OF WHEN AN OFFICER CONDUCTS DAILY CAMP CHECKS, CAMP CLEANUPS, FOOT PATROLS IN PARKS AND HIGH CRIME AREAS, INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP CONTACTS, TRANSPORTATION AND OUTREACH.

FOR THE SAME TIME, OFFICERS RESPONDED TO 929 CALLS FOR SERVICE GENERATED BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO MENTION OUR ONGOING APPRECIATION FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT BRING THEIR CONCERNS TO OUR ATTENTION.

OUR EFFORTS CONTINUE TO IMPROVE WITH YOUR COLLABORATION.

FOR ENFORCEMENT.

THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM CONTINUES TO DEDICATE THEIR EFFORTS AND CONDUCT EXCUSE ME IN CONNECTING INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO SHORT AND LONG TERM HOUSING OPTIONS, ENCOURAGING TREATMENT FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE, PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION AND MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES, REUNIFICATION WITH FAMILY, AND CONNECTING INDIVIDUALS WITH BENEFITS WHEN ELIGIBLE. THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM ALSO RECOGNIZES OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF CRIMINAL ACTS COMMITTED BY INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

POLICE OFFICERS WILL CONTINUE TO USE THE DISCRETION TO ISSUE WARNINGS AND CITATIONS AND MAKE MISDEMEANOR ARRESTS, AS WE BELIEVE IT IS STILL IMPORTANT TO BALANCE OUTREACH WITH ENFORCEMENT. FROM JANUARY 1ST TO MARCH 31ST, OFFICERS ISSUED 188 WARNINGS, 83 CITATIONS, AND 33 INDIVIDUALS WERE BOOKED INTO JAIL. OF THOSE 33 BOOKED INTO JAIL, 12 WERE FOR FELONY ARRESTS AND THE OTHER 21 WERE MISDEMEANORS.

MOST OF THE VIOLATIONS WE SAW WERE IN PARK AFTER POSTED HOURS, TRESPASSING, UNLAWFUL CAMPING ON PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND CONSUMING OR POSSESSING OPEN CONTAINERS OF ALCOHOL WERE PROHIBITED.

SO A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED WITH THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM IS WE ARE NOW THE TEAM IS SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT THE VISITOR CENTER DOWNTOWN AT 400 CARLSBAD

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VILLAGE DRIVE. THE OFFICERS AND THE CLINICIANS ARE DEPLOYING FROM THAT VISITOR CENTER ALL SEVEN DAYS OF THE WEEK, AND THE CLINICIANS HAVE BEEN TRAINED NOW TO DEPLOY ON THE E-BIKES WITH THE OFFICERS.

THE EMERGENCY VOUCHER PROGRAM WAS APPROVED TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITH TEMPORARY SHELTER WHILE WAITING TO BE BRIDGED INTO MORE PERMANENT HOUSING WHEN THERE WAS NO OTHER SHORT TERM HOUSING AVAILABLE.

CANDIDATES FOR THE VOUCHER PROGRAM MUST ADHERE TO STRICT, STRICT RULES AND MEET THE CRITERIA, WHICH INCLUDES THEIR WILLINGNESS TO ASSIST SOCIAL WORKERS IN DEVELOPING LONG TERM HOUSING SOLUTIONS.

OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, 22 HOUSEHOLDS WERE ASSISTED WITH A TOTAL STAY OF 49 NIGHTS.

OF THE 22, 17 MOVED INTO TEMPORARY OR LONG TERM HOUSING.

STAFF HAS FOUND THAT IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO BRIDGE PEOPLE TO SERVICES WITHIN A DAY OR TWO.

AS A RESULT, OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, STAFF WILL EXPLORE AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL HOTEL NIGHTS IN CERTAIN LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES NOT TO EXCEED 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS.

THIS WOULD BE RESERVED FOR THOSE WITH QUALIFYING SITUATIONS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE COMPLETED THE INTAKE PROCESS FOR SHELTER OR RESIDENTIAL CARE.

HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE A SIGNED LEASE AGREEMENT WITH AN UPCOMING MOVE IN DATE.

HOUSEHOLDS IN POSSESSION OF A HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR A RENTAL UNIT, AND HOUSEHOLDS ENROLLED IN A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR A RENTAL UNIT.

STAFF ANTICIPATES THE NEED TO SERVE LESS THAN TEN HOUSEHOLDS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS WITH ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZED ROOM NIGHTS.

THE EMERGENCY HOTEL VOUCHER PILOT PROGRAMS REMAINING FUNDING IS SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE COST.

STAFF WILL REPORT ON THE 12 MONTH RESULTS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM IN FALL 2022.

NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE TWO SUCCESS STORIES FOR THE QUARTER, STARTING WITH JOSEPH.

WE HAVE MANY SUCCESS STORIES THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO SELECT ONLY TWO.

SO WE'LL START WITH JOSEPH.

JOSEPH HAD A LIFE CHANGING MEDICAL INCIDENT THAT LEFT HIM UNABLE TO WALK AND WITHOUT MOST OF THE MOBILITY IN HIS LEGS AND ARMS. HIS CAREER WAS IN CONSTRUCTION AND HE FOUND HIMSELF NO LONGER ABLE TO WORK IN HIS FIELD.

THIS RESULTED IN HIM BECOMING CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FOR THREE YEARS.

HE WAS FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE AN EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHER FROM A NEIGHBORING HOUSING AUTHORITY, BUT CONTINUED TO FACE BARRIERS IN LOCATING AN APARTMENT.

HE WAS STAYING IN CARLSBAD AT THE TIME AND GOT CONNECTED WITH THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM SOCIAL WORKERS AND THE HOUSING NAVIGATOR.

TOGETHER WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER, THEY TRANSFERRED HIS VOUCHER TO CARLSBAD AND HELPED HIM LOCATE A UNIT IN TOWN.

HE IS NOW SAFELY HOME AND HAS IN-HOME CARE TO ASSIST WITH HIS DAILY NEEDS.

HE IS DOING PHYSICAL THERAPY AND HOPES TO ONE DAY REGAIN THE ABILITY TO WALK.

SO WHAT WORKED FOR JOSEPH? THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM WORKED WITH JOSEPH, HELPED PROVIDE HYGIENE ITEMS AND COLLABORATED WITH THE HOUSING NAVIGATOR TO PROBLEM, SOLVE AND HELP HIM LOCATE HOUSING.

THE HOUSING NAVIGATOR HELPED HIM MOVE HIS EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHER TO THE CARLSBAD HOUSING AUTHORITY FROM A NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION.

SHE HOPED JOSEPH REDUCED BARRIERS TO BEING ACCEPTED AT AN APARTMENT SUCH AS FOLLOWING UP WITH HIS INSURANCE COMPANY TO PAY MEDICAL BILLS THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR, WHICH WERE NEGATIVELY IMPACTING HIS CREDIT.

SHE ALSO FOUND HIM APARTMENTS TO APPLY FOR THROUGH THE CITY'S RAPID REHOUSING CONTRACT WITH THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER.

JOSEPH GOT HELP WITH HIS SECURITY DEPOSIT AND CASE MANAGEMENT TO MOVE INSIDE AND STABILIZE.

AGAIN JOSEPH IS NOW IN PERMANENT HOUSING AND ADJUSTING TO HIS NEW LIFE.

LIKE MR. SCHILLING SAID, THERE ARE SEVERAL SUCCESS STORIES THAT WE'VE FOUND IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

I CHOSE TO TALK ABOUT THE SMITH FAMILY, THE SMITH FAMILY, WHICH CONSISTS OF A GRANDMOTHER, MOTHER AND FATHER, FOUR CHILDREN AGES 12, EIGHT, EIGHT AND FOUR, AND THEIR SIX DOGS WERE LIVING IN A MINIVAN IN SAN DIEGO FOR APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR.

THEY WERE TRAVELING NORTH TO TEMECULA, WHERE THEY WERE HOPING TO FIND A MORE AFFORDABLE COST OF LIVING WHEN THEIR MINIVAN BECAME INOPERABLE IN CARLSBAD.

THEY FOUND THEMSELVES LIVING IN A MINIVAN AT A LOCAL PARK AS THEY HAD NO OTHER AVAILABLE RESOURCES OR HOUSING OPTIONS.

OUR OFFICERS FIRST MET THE FAMILY IN EARLY MARCH 2022 DURING ROUTINE PATROLS AT THE PARK.

OFFICERS LEARNED THE 12 YEAR OLD WAS AUTISTIC AND THE FATHER WAS A MILITARY VETERAN.

THE FATHER WAS WORKING IN SAN DIEGO AND THE MOTHER WAS WORKING IN VISTA.

THEY RELIED ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND FRIENDS FOR RIDES TO AND FROM WORK.

THE GRANDMOTHER WATCHED THE CHILDREN WHILE THE PARENTS WORKED.

CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES WERE INVOLVED, BUT THERE WERE NO ACTIONABLE OFFENSES.

BASED ON THE LIVING CIRCUMSTANCES, THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM, ALONG WITH THE CLINICIANS FROM INTERFAITH, WERE INTRODUCED TO THE FAMILY TO SEE IF THEY COULD FURTHER ASSIST WITH MORE COMPREHENSIVE RESOURCES.

THE FAMILY WAS OFFERED ACCESS TO A FAMILY SHELTER, BUT DECLINED AS THEY DID NOT WANT TO HAVE TO PART WITH THEIR DOGS.

THEY WERE ALSO RELUCTANT TO ACCEPT SERVICES DUE TO PASS RESOURCES THAT HAD BEEN INEFFECTIVE.

THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM USED THE LIMITED STAY EMERGENCY HOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM AND PLACED THE FAMILY IN A HOTEL FOR SIX DAYS WHILE INTERFAITH CLINICIANS CONTINUE TO EXPLORE

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ALTERNATE HOUSING OPTIONS.

INTERFAITH CLINICIANS WERE ABLE TO HELP THE FAMILY OBTAIN DOCUMENTS NEEDED FOR SECTION EIGHT HOUSING FOR VETERANS.

THE FAMILY WILLINGLY PARTED WAYS WITH SEVERAL OF THEIR ANIMALS, RETAINING ONE, WHICH WAS A SERVICE DOG FOR THE SON WITH AUTISM.

THEY ENTERED INTO A SHORT TERM FAMILY SHELTER IN ESCONDIDO, WHERE THEY WILL BE HOUSED UNTIL JUNE.

IN EARLY MAY, THE FAMILY WAS ASSIGNED A CASE MANAGER AND ARE LOOKING TO MOVE INTO PERMANENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO WHAT WORKED FOR THE SMITH FAMILY? THE LIMITED STAY EMERGENCY HOTEL VOUCHER PILOT PROGRAM PROVIDED IMMEDIATE SHELTER TO A FAMILY OF SEVEN.

OUR HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM AND INTERFAITH CLINICIANS REMAIN COMMITTED TO FAM TO THE FAMILY AND LEVERAGE RESOURCES DEDICATED TO VETERANS.

PERSISTENT SERVICE OFFERING RESULTED IN A SOLUTION THAT FIT THE NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE FAMILY.

SO THAT SUMMARIZES THE DATA AND THE ACTIONS DURING THE THIRD QUARTER THIS FISCAL YEAR.

WE DO CONTINUE TO HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE WORK ON, SO WE'LL BE REPORTING OUT ON THOSE IN FUTURE REPORTS.

THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF ACTIONS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY IN THE WORKPLAN THAT WE ALSO WANTED TO SHARE.

SO ON I THINK YOU HAVE ALL HEARD PROBABLY IN THE NEWS ON MAY 24TH, THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED A $10 MILLION GRANT FOR LOCAL CITIES TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SHELTER BEDS.

THEY CAN EITHER CREATE NEW NEW SHELTERS OR EXPAND EXISTING SHELTERS.

AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL BEDS AS WELL.

SO WE'RE WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO BE PROVIDED ABOUT THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE ARE MONITORING THAT CLOSELY AND WILL REPORT OUT ON THE RESULTS OF THAT. STAFF ARE ALSO IN PROCESS OF WORKING ON THE WORK PLAN AND STRATEGIC PLAN GOAL, WHICH WILL COME BEFORE YOU FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IN JULY. THAT STRATEGIC PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A FUTURE TASK ITEM TO UPDATE THE HOMELESS RESPONSE PLAN, WHICH HAS BEEN FIVE YEARS SINCE IT WAS CREATED.

IN ADDITION, STAFF IS CLOSELY MONITORING POTENTIAL STATE LEGISLATION, INCLUDING SENATE BILL 1338, WHICH WOULD SET UP A NEW COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE RECOVERY AND EMPOWERMENT COURT CALLED CARE COURT.

SO THE CARE COURT IS THAT WOULD BE A NEW CIVIL COURT, WHICH WOULD TAKE REFERRALS FOR PEOPLE WITH UNTREATED MENTAL MENTAL ILLNESS AND PROVIDE A COURT ORDERED CARE PLAN FOR UP TO 24 MONTHS.

PARTICIPANTS WHO DO NOT SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE CARE PLANS MAY BE HOSPITALIZED OR REFERRED TO FOR CONSERVATORSHIP WITH A PRESUMPTION THAT NO SUITABLE ALTERNATIVES TO CONSERVATORSHIP ARE AVAILABLE.

THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL AND BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THAT AND MORE WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE COMING OUT.

SO WE'RE CLOSELY MONITORING THAT.

AND I KNOW JASON HAYBOR IS ALSO MONITORING THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT INCLUDES THE THIRD QUARTERLY REPORT ON THE COUNCIL'S GOAL TO REDUCE HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

WE WILL INCLUDE A LINK TO THE REPORT ON OUR WEBSITE.

IT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE AT WWW.CARLSBADCA.GOV/HOMELESS.

STAFF ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY SPEAKERS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, MAYOR.

QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER NORBY? THANK YOU. ON THE.

I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT 43 THAT ARE SHELTERED AND 75 THAT ARE UNSHELTERED.

AND SO SOME SOME 35% OR 30% NUMBER, A HIGH NUMBER THAT ARE IN SHELTER.

AND THEN YOU PRESENTED A KIND OF A NORTH COUNTY COASTAL NUMBER, I THINK, OF 700 AND SOMETHING.

DO YOU HAVE.

I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED THAT THAT WE ARE KIND OF CARRYING OUR OUR LOAD AND OUR SHARE.

BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE SHELTERED IN NORTH COUNTY COASTAL.

YES. I'LL HAVE TO ADD UP SOME NUMBERS SO I CAN GET THAT BACK TO YOU.

OKAY. AND WHILE YOU MAYBE I'LL CONTINUING MY QUESTIONS, SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SMITH FAMILY EXAMPLE THAT WAS GIVEN.

IT HITS HOME. WE WERE OFTEN TEN TRAVELING IN AN EIGHT PASSENGER VEHICLE GROWING UP.

MY SEVEN SIBLINGS AND MOM AND DAD.

AND SO THE SMITH FAMILY'S VEHICLE BECAME DISABLED IN CARLSBAD SOMEWHERE.

AND THAT CAUSED OUR HOT TEAM TO GO OUT THERE AND TO LEAD ASSISTANCE AND THE REST OF THE STORY WAS TOLD.

BUT WHAT I GUESS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN PRE THIS KIND OF EFFORT TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS AND UNSHELTERED IN CARLSBAD WITH A HOT TEAM OR IF THIS VEHICLE HAD BROKEN DOWN, YOU KNOW, 30 MILES SOUTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHAT WOULD BE IS THIS WOULD THIS NORMALLY HAPPEN NO MATTER WHERE THAT VEHICLE BROKE DOWN? OR WAS IT THEY'RE LUCKY DAY THAT IT BROKE DOWN IN CARLSBAD AND WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.

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GO AHEAD. DEFINITELY SHELTER SOLUTIONS HAVE INCREASED OVER THE LAST PROBABLY FIVE YEARS.

SO IF THIS HAD HAPPENED FIVE YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH HARDER ON THIS FAMILY.

I THINK ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, A LOT MORE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE THROUGH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT FOR SAY NON CONGREGATE CARE OPTIONS. SO FOR MOTEL OPTIONS.

SO THOSE ARE MORE ACCESSIBLE TO HOUSEHOLDS LIKE THIS AND I WOULD SAY FOR THE SITUATIONALLY HOMELESS.

SO FOR A SITUATION WHERE THEY THEY ARE UPON HARD TIMES AND ARE NEEDING FUNDS MAYBE TO REPAIR A CAR OR TO GET A SECURITY DEPOSIT, FUNDS LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE MORE READILY AVAILABLE NOW THAN IN THE PAST AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. READING THE REPORT AND THE STAFF REPORT, I NOTICED THERE WAS ONE PORTABLE TOILET THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE.

AND SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT JUST BASIC HYGIENE.

AND SO HOW MANY HOW MANY PORTABLE TOILETS DO WE HAVE OUT THERE? AND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS DECLINING OR ARE WE IT'S JUST I MEAN, I GET IT.

THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE IT WORKS REALLY WELL IN SOME PLACES WHERE IT DOESN'T WORK.

AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TO MOVE THEM AROUND.

BUT CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT A LITTLE BIT? I MEAN, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? ARE THEY PROBLEMATIC OR ARE THEY WORKING? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF WE NEED TO HAVE THEM OUT THERE FOR BASIC HYGIENE NEEDS.

BUT I DID READ THAT ONE WAS KIND OF TAKEN OUT SOME.

YEAH. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC RESTROOMS OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE STATE BEACHES, WE HAVE PARKS.

SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESTROOMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

THE CITY ITSELF, THOUGH, IS PARTICULARLY FUNDING FOR PORTABLE UNITS THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE KIND OF DOWNTOWN AREA AND THAT FIFTH ONE. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT KIND OF TRYING TO MAP USE THIS DATA TO SEE MAYBE A BEST LOCATION.

BUT REALLY THAT FIFTH ONE, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THAT AREA THAT WERE RESIDENTS THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PORTABLE.

THANK YOU. AND THEN OUR PUBLIC TOILETS, ARE THEY OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY? NO, THOSE ARE USUALLY LOCKED AT NIGHT.

SO THAT IS A CONCERN.

I THINK THEY'RE OPEN QUITE EARLY IN THE MORNING.

OKAY. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT MATH.

SO IN THE NORTH COASTAL REGION, 146 INDIVIDUALS WERE IN EMERGENCY SHELTER ON THE NIGHT OF THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.

OKAY. SO WE'RE WE'RE FAR ABOVE IN TERMS OF OUR SHELTERED POPULATION AS IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE, CORRECT.

THAN THE NORTH COUNTY. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLANS TO TO EVEN MAKE THAT A GREATER NUMBER IN THE FUTURE.

SO I'M HAPPY WITH THAT.

AND THEN I'LL JUST I ONLY HAVE ONE COMMENT.

I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE IT RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE GET ON TO OUR STAFF.

REALLY APPRECIATE THE REPORT.

IT'S GETTING MUCH MORE LAYERED, A LOT OF INFORMATION.

I WAS CRITICAL, I THINK, ON THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT CALLS FOR SERVICE MEANS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR ARRESTS OR CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE RELATED TO UNSHELTERED OR HOMELESS.

AND SO THE REPORT IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER.

I REALLY LIKE IT.

NOW I KNOW I HAVE A FRAMEWORK OF WHAT THIS ISSUE IS IN TERMS OF OUR OVERALL SITUATION THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN I'LL JUST NOTE THAT AT THE HEIGHT WE WERE 150 UNSHELTERED AND NOW WE'RE 75.

AND I KNOW IT'S ONLY A POINT IN TIME COUNT AND IT WILL CHANGE.

AND IT WAS A COLD NIGHT, BUT I JUST BRING THAT OUT THAT THE TREND IS GOOD.

COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA.

YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND I AGREE THAT REPORTS ARE HAVE MORE LAYERS, HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND ARE MAYBE EVEN EASIER TO UNDERSTAND.

OR MAYBE THAT'S ME LEARNING AS WE GO ALONG.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND I IT'S I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE AND I HOPE THAT I'M ANSWERING IT CORRECTLY.

IT'S ABOUT UN DUPLICATED CONTACTS AND CONTACTS IN GENERAL.

WHAT ARE CONTACTS? SO IF YOU COULD JUST DESCRIBE WHAT WHAT CONSTITUTES A CONTACT.

YES. AN UNDUPLICATED CONTACT WOULD BE IT COULD BE A HOUSEHOLD OR IT COULD BE A PERSON.

SO THAT'S WHY WE USE IT AS A CONTACT GENERIC TERM SO AND WE MAKE SURE TO DO ON DUPLICATED BECAUSE IN THE PERIOD OF THREE MONTHS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SOCIAL WORKERS MIGHT BE ENCOUNTERING THAT PERSON MULTIPLE TIME.

AND SO WE ARE VERY CAREFUL TO MAKE SURE WE ONLY COUNT THAT PERSON ONE TIME.

WE DO MAKE SURE, THOUGH, TO POINT OUT THEN THERE IS A FOOTNOTE ON THE REPORT THAT THE OUTCOMES ARE MIGHT ONE PERSON MIGHT HAVE MORE THAN ONE OUTCOME.

AND SO THAT GETS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AS WELL.

SO SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE A MOTEL PLACEMENT ON ONE NIGHT AND THEN WITHIN THAT SAME QUARTER, THEN THEY GET A SHELTER PLACEMENT.

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SO ONE ON DUPLICATED CONTACT MIGHT HAVE TWO OUTCOMES.

SO TO FOLLOW UP ON MY QUESTION, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

BUT WOULD YOU WOULD YOU SAY TO FOCUS MORE ON SOME OF THE OTHER WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE BIGGER METRICS TO REALLY FOCUS ON? IS IT IS IT THOSE WHO WERE PLACED IN PERMANENT HOUSING? LIKE WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST AND MOST EXCITING SUCCESSES FOR THE PROGRAM? I WOULD SAY THE NUMBER OF PERMANENT HOUSING PLACEMENTS IS REALLY A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT.

50 AND THREE QUARTERS IS REALLY AMAZING.

SO KEEP IN MIND, I MEAN, THESE ARE HOPEFULLY PEOPLE THAT CAN STAY IN THESE UNITS MORE THAN 30 DAYS.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO BE WORRYING ABOUT THEIR NEXT PLACE PACKING UP AGAIN SO THESE PEOPLE CAN LEARN HOW TO LIVE IN HOUSING AGAIN AND CALL HOME. OKAY, GREAT.

AND JUST ONE MORE LITTLE COMMENT OR QUESTION.

I'M SORRY. ON THE SHOPPING CARTS COLLECTED IN Q ONE, WE HAVE AN NA.

IS IT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T COUNTING THEM OR WE WEREN'T DOING IT? IT WASN'T THAT WE WEREN'T DOING IT.

WE JUST HADN'T STARTED COUNTING THEM.

I BELIEVE IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THAT QUARTER.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE STARTED COUNTING FOR QUARTER TWO.

GREAT. I KNOW THERE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THAT AND QUESTIONS AND URGING US TO COUNT THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THAT.

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

ANY OTHER COMMENT? YOU'RE GOOD. DR.

BOB PATEL. SURE.

THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND I DO WANT TO PREFACE WITH I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK AND I REALLY APPRECIATE I MEAN, I KNOW WE ALL MENTIONED IT, BUT APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S GOING IN AND CLEARLY WE'RE SEEING SOME RESULTS.

SO JUST WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO THE TEAM FOR DOING ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING AND WITH WITH THAT, JUST TO CLARIFY, AND I THOUGHT I HEARD IT RIGHT AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE JUST MENTIONED IT, TOO, BUT SO FAR IT SOUNDS LIKE 12 HOLES THIS QUARTER AND 50 DURING THE LAST TOTAL OF THREE.

THAT'S EXCITING.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE WHEN I HEARD THAT, I WAS LIKE, REALLY? THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT NUMBER.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

AND THEN JUST SO YOU ALL MENTIONED, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS THIS WAS REALLY A GREAT MODEL AND EXCITING TO HEAR.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE HOT'S GOING OUT FROM THE VISITOR CENTER.

AND THEN WITH THEM, THE CLINICIANS ARE ON E-BIKES.

AND COULD YOU KIND OF GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AROUND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IF THERE IS A CALL FOR SERVICE? SURE. SO THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS ON THE E-BIKES.

THEY'RE IN VEHICLES WHEN THEY HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

BUT THAT IS ANOTHER WAY FOR THEM TO GET AROUND TO DIFFERENT AREAS.

YOU KNOW, THEY CAN TRAVEL KIND OF DOWN IN THE IN THE BRUSH AREAS AND STUFF ON THE BIKES AND I THINK THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCESSIBLE.

AND SO I THINK IT'S IT MAKES THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE ENGAGING WHEN THEY'RE ON THE BICYCLES INSTEAD OF JUST ALWAYS BEING IN THE BLACK AND WHITE POLICE CAR AROUND TOWN AND THE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM AND OUR BICYCLE INSTRUCTORS AND OUR E-BIKE INSTRUCTORS, IT WAS ACTUALLY THEIR IDEA TO, YOU KNOW, GET THE GET THE CLINICIANS ON THE BIKES AS WELL SO THEY COULD RIDE WITH THEM.

YEAH, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT IT.

SO IT WAS GREAT TO GREAT TO HEAR AND APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THEN LAST QUESTION AND THEN JUST HAVE COMMENTS WOULD BE, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED FOR FUTURE PURPOSES THAT THERE ARE THERE'S FUNDING, COUNTY FUNDING THAT WAS JUST APPROVED.

JUST CURIOUS IF WE'RE IN TOUCH WITH OUR SUPERVISORS OFFICE WITH REGARDS TO THAT FUNDING TO GET CLARITY ON THAT.

AND THAT WAY IT SIGNALS TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL THAT WE CAN DO OUR WORK TO, OF COURSE, ADVOCATE AS WELL.

SO JUST CURIOUS ON THAT FRONT.

YES. IN FACT, I THINK WE'RE MEETING ON MONDAY AND ALSO THE STAFF FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ARE VERY MUCH IN TOUCH WITH MR. SCHILLING AND MS. KLINE. AND SO THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE VERY ACTIVE CITY IN THIS AREA AND SO THEY ARE VERY EXCITED TO SEND US INFORMATION AS SOON AS THEY HAVE IT. SO I KNOW THEY'RE COMMUNICATING REGULARLY.

GREAT, THANK YOU. AND YEAH, I JUST HAVE COMMENTS AFTER THAT.

GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE MAKING COMMENTS.

OKAY. SO JUST AGAIN, JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS.

AND I AGREE THERE HAVE BEEN MORE LAYERS ADDED TO IT.

SO JUST GLAD TO SEE THAT.

I THINK IT ALLOWS FOR US TO GET A MORE HOLISTIC PICTURE.

I THINK THE STORIES REALLY HELP HUMANIZE FOLKS AND ALLOW FOR FOLKS TO SEE LIKE THESE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE HELPING.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THOSE CASE STORIES THAT YOU ALL ARE SHARING.

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THE OTHER PIECE I KNOW SOME OF US WERE OUT THERE FOR THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.

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I KNOW I GOT TO WORK WITH MR. SCHILLING ON THAT AND GET TO GO AND WALK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT IS DEFINITELY IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT, I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S A VERY EYE OPENING EXPERIENCE.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT MULTIPLE TIMES AND I DO THINK THAT IT ALLOWS FOR YOU TO GET A BETTER PICTURE OF WHO'S OUT THERE, WHY THEY'RE OUT THERE, AND WHAT OUR CITY IS DOING TO ADDRESS THAT.

SO THANK YOU. MR. BLACKBURN. DO YOU HAVE A WAY OF COMMUNICATING WITH THE OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BEING MANIPULATED, COMING HERE USING VOUCHERS OR WHATEVER, AND THEN GOING TO THE NEXT CITY AND DOING THE SAME THING? MEAN COMMUNICATING WITH CITY STAFF OR? DO THE CITIES COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT WHO YOU'RE HELPING? SO THEY'RE NOT JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR CITY.

AND THEN WHEN THE SERVICES RUN OUT, THEY RUN TO THE NEXT CITY AND DO THE SAME THING.

RIGHT. DO YOU. YEAH, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

SO EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE CITY ENTERED THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK SOMEONE UP IN THAT SYSTEM, WE'RE ABLE TO SEE A HISTORY OF ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE ENROLLED IN OR SERVICES THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED AND READ NOTES ABOUT THAT. SO IF WE GO IN AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE CONTACT WITH SOMEONE OR TRY TO MOVE THEM FORWARD WITH SERVICES, WE'LL CONTACT THE OTHER PROGRAM IF THEY'RE OPEN OR HAVE AN ACTIVE ENROLLMENT AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY JUST HADN'T CLOSED THEM OUT YET OR FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SITUATION IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING BETWEEN CITIES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

THANK YOU. I'M GLAD WE DO THAT.

I JOKINGLY SAID SOMETHING TO THE LIEUTENANT EARLIER.

I SAID, WE CAN MAKE THIS A VERY QUICK AGENDA ITEM.

I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU SOLVE HOMELESSNESS.

BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION, WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT BY NOW.

IT'S DIFFICULT.

WE TRY THINGS. IF THEY DON'T WORK, WE TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE'RE THROWING AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY AT IT AS WELL.

I LISTEN, I'M HEARING A LOT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AT THE BEGINNING, THEY WERE VERY PATIENT AND THEY AGREED WITH ME AND SAID, YEAH, WE HAVE TO TRY DIFFERENT IDEAS.

NOW THE PATIENCE ARE STARTING TO RUN A LITTLE BIT LOW.

SOME OF THE THINGS I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY CENTER AROUND THINGS LIKE ENABLING IS NOT CONSIDERED COMPASSION, THAT THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT THEY DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH PEOPLE ARE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT SOME OF THOSE SPECIAL PROTECTIONS WERE TAKEN OFF THE BOARD BECAUSE OF COVID.

WE'RE KIND OF PULLING OUT OF COVID.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOTHERS ME AND I HEAR A LOT ABOUT IS WE SAY HOMELESSNESS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS.

THE PEOPLE I WANT TO PUT ALL THESE RESOURCES AND ALL THIS MONEY TO HELP ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO ANY OF US, LOST A JOB, GOT INJURED, GOT A DIVORCE.

EVERYTHING HIT AT ONCE. NOW WE'RE LIVING IN OUR CAR.

IF THEY WANT HELP, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THEM ALL THE HELP THEY NEED.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL OR PHYSICAL DISABILITIES AND CAN'T CARE FOR THEMSELVES YET THEY'RE LIVING ON THE STREETS.

I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE WE AS A SOCIETY HAVE FAILED THEM.

I WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE NEED TO SPEND HELPING THEM AS WELL.

PEOPLE WHO ARE DRUG ADDICTED BUT TRULY WANT TO PUT THE EFFORT INTO GETTING BACK INTO SOCIETY AND KICKING THE DRUG HABIT.

I WANT TO HELP THEM.

I WANT TO BE THERE.

AS LONG AS THEY'RE PUTTING FORTH THEIR THEIR PART OF THE EFFORT, THEN I WANT TO BE THERE TO HELP THEM.

BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY UNFAIR TO LUMP TOGETHER THE WORD HOMELESSNESS OR HOMELESS PEOPLE WITH PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO STICK WITH METH OR HEROINE, RATHER THAN MAKE THE CHOICE OF TRYING TO GET HELP OR GETTING HOUSING OR THE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE JUST TO LIVE IN OUR PARKS AND MAKE STEALING, PETTY THEFT, THEIR JOB AND THE PARKS BE THEIR HOMES AND ALCOHOL OR DRUGS, BE THEIR NOURISHMENT. THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY WE CAN SEPARATE THE TWO.

AND WHEN I SAY SEPARATE THE TWO, I HATE LUMPING THEM ALL TOGETHER UNDER ONE UMBRELLA AND SAYING, THESE ARE OUR HOMELESS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS, NOT BY CHOICE.

I WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY ON HELPING THOSE WHO WANT THE HELP, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST THUMBING THEIR NOSE AT THE SYSTEM AND WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US START TO SPEND OUR TIME AND RESOURCES WITH ENFORCEMENT AND MAKING IT UNCOMFORTABLE TO BREAK THE LAW JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO ANY OF US.

IF WE'RE BREAKING THE LAW, WHETHER IT BE PUTTING THEM IN JAIL FOR BEING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF METHAMPHETAMINE OR HEROIN.

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PEOPLE TELL ME ALL THE TIME THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT WORRIED.

PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF DRUGS DON'T MAKE THE SAME DECISIONS AS THEY WOULD IF THEY WERE SOBER OR NOT ON THEIR DRUGS.

AND IT SCARES PEOPLE.

THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO THE PARKS.

AND THAT STARTS TO CREATE THAT.

THE BIG REASON I RAN AND WANT TO SIT HERE AND HELP THE CITY IS I WANT TO PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND I FEEL LIKE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO WE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING THE TRUST AND BEING PATIENT WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THESE HABITUAL METH ADDICTS OR HEROIN ADDICTS.

IT'S NOT WORKING WITH THEM.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US START TO SPEND MORE RESOURCES AND TIME ENFORCING THE LAWS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WANT THE HELP AND DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF SOCIETY.

SO I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF GRANDSTANDING, BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE KIND OF GETTING TIRED OF IT.

I'M GOING TO END WITH A HUGE COMPLIMENT, THOUGH.

I ALSO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN TO OTHER CITIES AND I'LL THROW DOWN SAN DIEGO AND THEN THEY COME BACK HERE AND THEY SAY, OH, MY GOSH, WE HAVE MORE HOMELESSNESS, HOMELESS OR DRUG ADDICTED PEOPLE ON OUR STREETS THAN I WANT TO SEE.

BUT BOY, ARE WE TEN TIMES BETTER THAN OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES.

SO I DO CREDIT YOU FOR THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S TIME TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP.

AND THAT'S JUST MY PERSPECTIVE FROM LISTENING TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY SEEMS TO KEEP TELLING ME.

AND JUST TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH WHAT MR. BLACKBURN SAID, COULD YOU JUST IN A COUPLE OF SENTENCES TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNOR AND THE ACTION THAT'S BEFORE THE POSSIBLY FOR THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR TO HOUSE THOSE PEOPLE AGAIN? BECAUSE THAT'S ABSOLUTELY KEY.

RIGHT. SO THE CARE COURT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IS SIGNIFICANT.

SO IT DEFINITELY, I WOULD SAY, LOWERS THE THRESHOLD FOR POTENTIAL CONSERVATORSHIP.

SO BASICALLY, IT'S MORE FRIENDLY AT THE BEGINNING.

SO IT'S AN EASIER WAY TO ACCESS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESOURCES AND OTHER SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY FOR SOMEBODY TO GET OFF THE STREET.

IF A PERSON THEN DOES NOT PURSUE THOSE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND OFFERED, IT DOES KIND OF LOWER THE THRESHOLD AND REQUIRE GUARDIANSHIP OR CONSERVATORSHIP SO THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE THOSE SERVICES TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED.

AND THIS COMES WITH QUITE A BIT OF MENTAL HEALTH FUNDING AND HOUSING DOLLARS AS WELL.

SO WE'LL BE TRACKING THAT.

SO I THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN ALL GET BEHIND AND AGREE TO, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST TOOLS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT YOU'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT. SO AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA AND THE LEDGE COMMITTEE AND JASON AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE ON THE FRONT LINES TRYING TO GET THAT DONE.

SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

WELL DONE.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ACTION TONIGHT JUST TO RECEIVE THE REPORT.

SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11, STATUS OF TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVATION PERMITS ISSUED DUE TO COVID 19 PANDEMIC.

AND I HAVE A FINANCIAL CONFLICT WITH THIS.

SO AN ITEM NUMBER 11, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MR. BLACKBURN. THANK YOU.

AND, MR. MURPHY, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO DO THE INTRODUCTIONS.

THE PRESENTATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PRINCIPAL PLANNER ERIC LARDY.

AND FOR THE RECORD THE MAYOR'S CONFLICT IS DUE TO REAL PROPERTY AND BUSINESS INTERESTS IN THE VILLAGE, BARRIO MASTERPLAN AREA.

AND I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE.

MR. PATINO, I CALLED YOU MR. MURPHY BECAUSE YOU'RE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.

SORRY, I COMPLIMENT. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

FIRST, I'LL START WITH AN OVERVIEW OF MY PRESENTATION.

I WILL REVIEW THE HISTORY OF THE TEMPORARY SUSPENSIONS OF LAND USE REGULATIONS DUE TO THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC.

THE TYPES OF PERMITS AND THE CURRENT STATUS OF EACH OF THE TYPES.

THEN I WILL SUMMARIZE THE RESIDENT AND BUSINESS SURVEYS AND CONCLUDE WITH THE NEXT STEPS, INCLUDING HOW COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WILL WORK WITH BUSINESS OWNERS MOVING FORWARD.

IN MARCH 2020, THE CITY, COUNTY AND STATE ALL ISSUED PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS RELATED TO THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC, AS MORE WAS KNOWN ABOUT THE PANDEMIC AND VIRUS, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT THE NATION BEGAN TO MODIFIED REGULATIONS TO ALLOW TEMPORARY SUSPENSIONS OF LAND USES TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO OPERATE OUTDOORS.

IN JUNE 2020, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A SUSPENSION OF REGULATIONS FOR A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES.

IN SEPTEMBER 2020, THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO SUSPENDED THE PAYMENT OF FEES RELATED TO THESE ACTIVITIES.

SINCE THAT TIME, THE REGULATIONS HAVE REMAINED SUSPENDED, BUT WE'VE SEEN MANY BUSINESSES RETURN TO NORMAL OPERATIONS.

WE'VE ALSO COMPLETED PARKING, BUSINESS AND RESIDENT SURVEYS DURING THE LAST TWO YEARS TO EVALUATE THE CURRENT SITUATION.

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SINCE THE PROGRAM WAS AUTHORIZED, 116 BUSINESSES HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IT.

AND AS WE'LL REVIEW, MANY HAVE VOLUNTARILY REMOVED THESE EXPANSIONS AND BEEN OR BEEN PERMITTED UNDER EXISTING REGULATIONS.

WHILE WE DO NOT KNOW THAT HOW LONG THE PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT, ONCE THEY DO, IT WILL IMPACT THE BUSINESSES STILL TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM.

I WILL THEN REVIEW THE FOUR TYPES OF OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES.

THE FIRST THREE ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN.

CURB CAFES ARE ONE OF THE THREE TYPES OF PERMITS.

IT IS A DECK STRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS FOR OUTDOOR SEATING TO EXTEND FROM A SIDEWALK INTO THE PARKING STALLS FOR THE PURPOSES OF FOOD OR BEVERAGE SERVICE.

PRIOR TO THE SUSPENSION, THERE WAS A MAXIMUM OF TWO SPACES THAT COULD BE TAKEN AND IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE FEE OF APPROXIMATELY 1200 DOLLARS ANNUALLY FOR THE LOSS OF PARKING SPACES.

A TOTAL OF NINE OF THESE PERMITS WERE AUTHORIZED, AND SINCE THAT TIME FOUR OF THEM HAVE APPLIED UNDER EXISTING VILLAGE AND BARRIO REGULATIONS AND BEEN AUTHORIZED PERMANENTLY.

FIVE REMAIN TEMPORARY.

SIDEWALK CAFES ARE AN EXTENSION INTO THE PUBLIC PROPERTY, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE ROADWAY TYPICALLY SEEN ON CITY SIDEWALKS.

THERE'S CURRENTLY NO ANNUAL FEE FOR RENTAL OF THIS SPACE.

THE SUSPENSION OF REGULATIONS ALLOWED FOR ADDITIONAL AREA TO BE USED FOR THIS DINING, SUCH AS FRONTAGE OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WERE IF THEY WERE OKAY WITH THE EXPANSION.

A TOTAL OF 16 PERMITS WERE ORIGINALLY AUTHORIZED AND SINCE THAT TIME NINE OF THEM HAVE APPLIED FOR PERMANENT PERMITS UNDER THE EXISTING REGULATIONS.

SEVEN REMAIN UNDER THE TEMPORARY AUTHORIZATIONS.

THE THIRD TYPE IS TEMPORARY OUTDOOR DISPLAYS OF MERCHANDISE PLACED TYPICALLY IN CITY SIDEWALKS.

THESE ARE ALLOWED IN THE VILLAGE IN BARRIO MASTER PLAN WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT.

THERE WERE THREE TEMPORARY PERMITS AUTHORIZED AND ALL THREE HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY AUTHORIZED UNDER THE EXISTING REGULATIONS.

THIS TABLE SHOWS THE CURRENT STATUS OF ALL OF THE RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS WITHIN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN.

THERE ARE REMAINING 12 TEMPORARY PERMITS, AND BASED ON OUR EVALUATION, 11 OF THOSE COULD BE LEGALIZED UNDER THE EXISTING VILLAGE AND MASTER PLAN REQUIREMENTS.

THE MOST COMMON TYPE OF TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVATION WAS PRIVATE PARKING LOTS WITH VARIOUS USES.

THESE PERMITS WERE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THE CITY CODE ALLOWS FOR THESE USES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT THE TEMPORARY EXPANSION ALLOWED THESE USES LONG TERM AND AND IN DIFFERENT PHASES OF THE PANDEMIC THEY WERE USED FOR MORE THAN JUST RESTAURANTS, BUT FOR GYMS, RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, SALONS OR RETAIL.

THESE PERMITS ARE ENTIRELY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, MOST COMMONLY IN PARKING LOTS.

THIS TABLE SHOWS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THESE PRIVATE ACTIVATIONS INSIDE THE VILLAGE BARRIO MASTER PLAN AREA.

ABOUT HALF THE PERMITS REMAIN IN EFFECT.

STAFF EVALUATED THESE FOR POTENTIAL LEGALIZATION UNDER EXISTING REQUIREMENTS.

WHILE EACH WOULD HAVE TO BE EVALUATED INDIVIDUALLY, THERE ARE OPTIONS IF BUSINESS OWNERS WANT TO CONVERT THE SPACE TO SERVICE AREA LONG TERM.

FOR BUSINESSES OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE IN BAHRAIN MASTERPLAN A MAJORITY OF THOSE, 80% OF THOSE HAVE VOLUNTARILY REMOVED THE TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS AND IN CONVERTED THOSE BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL USE, THEY COULD ALSO BE EVALUATED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS FOR OWNERS WISHING FOR PERMANENT AUTHORIZATION.

IN SUMMARY, FOR THE TWO TABLES THAT WE WENT OVER 12, THERE ARE 12 TEMPORARY RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS IN THE VILLAGE IN BARRIO AREA AND 14 TEMPORARY PRIVATE PROPERTY PERMITS FOR THE REMAINING PRIVATE PROPERTY PERMITS, WHICH WOULD BE LOOKING AT A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

80% HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND 15 OF THOSE ARE IN EXISTENCE.

ANOTHER CONSIDERATION OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS IS A NEWER STATE LAW.

AB 61, APPROVED IN 2021, REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THEY WOULD OTHERWISE REQUIRE, IF NECESSARY, TO PROVIDE FOR RELEASE FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVATION UNTIL JANUARY 1ST, 2024.

PRACTICALLY, THIS MEANS THAT PRIVATE OUTDOOR OPERATIONS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO REDUCE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND A REMAIN UNTIL THIS DATE, EVEN AFTER THE PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS ARE REPEALED. SURVEYS WERE COMPLETED IN THE SUMMER OF 2021 TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND IN THE WINTER FROM 2021 TO 2022 FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS ON THE CURRENT OUTDOOR ACTIVATIONS.

93% OF RESPONDENTS STATED THEY GENERALLY ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE OF OUTDOOR DINING.

61% STATED THE IMPACTS TO PARKING WAS NOT NOTICEABLE AND A MAJORITY SAID THAT THEY LIKE TO SEE THE SAME OR FEWER AMOUNT OF CURB CAFE'S.

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ADDITIONALLY, A PARKING SURVEY WAS COMPLETED IN THE SUMMER OF 2021, WHICH INDICATED THAT THESE ACTIVATIONS WERE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTING THE ON OR OFF STREET PARKING IN THE VILLAGE AREA. FOR THE REMAINING 12 PERMITS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THEY CAN REMAIN UNTIL 90 DAYS AFTER SUSPENSION OF THE HEALTH ORDERS, AND IT IS UNCLEAR WHEN THAT WILL OCCUR.

WHEN THAT DOES AND BEFORE THEN, STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE 12 OWNERS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE ON WHAT MODIFICATION AND PERMITTING MAY BE NEEDED TO MAKE THEM PERMANENT AUTHORIZATIONS AND WHEN THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY ASSOCIATED ANNUAL FEES.

FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, GIVEN THE PASSAGE OF THIS STATE LAW.

ALL OWNERS HOLDING A PRIVATE PROPERTY PERMIT WILL BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THEIR TEMPORARY ACTIVATIONS UNTIL JANUARY 2024.

WE WILL WORK WITH BUSINESS OWNERS BEFORE AND AFTER THAT TIME SO THAT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE FOR PERMANENT AUTHORIZATION, THEY CAN WORK WITH US TO DO THAT.

THE NEXT PARKING STUDY WILL BE CONDUCTED IN THE SUMMER OF 2022 AND RESULTS WILL BE AVAILABLE THIS FALL.

IF THE RESULTS CHANGE THE CONCLUSIONS AND THEY WILL BE REPORTED TO CITY COUNCIL, THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO RECEIVE THE REPORT AND PROVIDE DIRECTION AS APPROPRIATE. THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE MANY SPEAKERS. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS.

LET'S START WITH YOU, MR. NORBY.

I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, BUT I HAVE A COMMENT WHEN WE GET TO.

MS. ACOSTA.

ALSO NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR A GREAT REPORT.

NO QUESTIONS. OKAY.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

I GOT AN EYE OPENER WATCHING THE NEWS THE OTHER NIGHT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE GAS LAMP.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT WHERE A CAR HIT ONE OF THESE BECAUSE IT'S OUT IN THE STREET AND IT PRETTY MUCH DEMOLISHED IT.

LUCKILY, IT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF HOURS AFTER THE RESTAURANT WAS CLOSED AND THERE WAS NOBODY THERE.

OTHERWISE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY TRAGIC.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS OFTEN? IS THERE SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER? MAYBE LIGHTING OR REFLECTION REFLECTORS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THESE? OR IS THIS JUST AN ISOLATED INCIDENT THAT I JUST HAPPENED TO SEE TWO DAYS BEFORE YOUR PRESENTATION? COUNCIL MEMBER.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE NOT HEARD MANY OF THOSE.

I THINK EARLIER ON DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN A LOT OF CITIES WERE FIRST ALLOWING CURB CAFES.

WE DID HEAR A FEW INCIDENTS WHERE THERE WERE WHERE RESIDENTS WERE BEING OR WHERE VEHICLES WERE BUMPING INTO SOME OF THE SOME OF THE CURB CAFES. BUT THEN IT TRAILED OFF.

WE DIDN'T HEAR MANY WE HAVEN'T SEEN MANY HERE OR HEARD MANY HERE IN CURB CAFES.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WHEN THEY ACTIVATED THE PRIVATE PROPERTY, PARKING LOTS THAT WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE MOTORISTS WENT INTO IN THAT AREA, BUT IT WAS VERY INFREQUENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMENTS.

MR. NORBY. THANK YOU.

I THINK IT SPEAKS VOLUMES THAT THERE IS NOT A CHAMBER FULL OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND MERCHANTS AND PERMIT HOLDERS THAT ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

SO YOUR COMMUNICATION WITH THEM OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY SPEAKERS WE'VE ASKED THAT ON THIS ISSUE.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT.

AND THEN JUST TO COMMENT IS I SO DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN PRIVATE PROPERTY AND PUBLIC PROPERTY AND MY EVALUATION OF BOTH OF THEM IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ABILITY TO MAKE A DECISION THAT AFFECTS THEMSELVES AND REPRESENTS THEIR INTERESTS AS A KIND OF AN ENTITY.

AND PUBLIC IS LIKE, WHOA, THAT IS REALLY HEAVY.

THERE'S A LOT OF USERS OF THAT PUBLIC SPACE.

AND I JUST I BRISTLE A LITTLE BIT WHEN THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE GIVE OUR PUBLIC SPACE TO PRIVATE ENTITIES.

AND SO WHEN WE DO A CURB CAFE OR WHEN WE DO SOMETHING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT OR I'M SORRY, PARKING AREA, THAT IS PUBLIC PROPERTY.

AND IF YOU'RE A RETAILER NEXT TO A RESTAURANT, YOU NO LONGER HAVE USE OF THAT PUBLIC PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S NOW EFFECTIVELY PRIVATE USE FOR THAT RESTAURANT.

AND I OFTEN I'VE DEALT WITH THIS FOR 30 YEARS AND I DON'T MY OPINION IS, IS NOT SHARED BY MANY PEOPLE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IF WE WERE TO GO IN AND ASK THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER IF WE COULD TAKE TEN FEET OF THEIR SPACE FOR SOME PUBLIC BENEFIT, THE ANSWER

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WOULD BE NO, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND THE ANSWER WOULD ALSO BE I'M PAYING THREE OR $4 A FOOT.

AND SO EVEN IF I WANTED TO GIVE IT TO YOU, YOU WOULD PAY THREE OR $4 A FOOT.

SO I'M ALTHOUGH I'M SUPPORTIVE OF OUTDOOR DINING, HUGELY SUPPORTIVE.

I'M ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING VERY WIDE SIDEWALKS WHERE YOU CAN WALK THREE OR FOUR ABREAST AND ENJOY AN AREA AND NOT TAKING IT DOWN TO FOUR FEET OR FIVE FEET.

AND I JUST THINK OUR FEE STRUCTURE, I THINK YOU MENTIONED 1600 IS THAT IS THAT FOR ONE PARKING SPOT OR TWO PARKING SPOTS FOR THE FOR THE PERMIT?

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IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1200 A PARKING SPACE, ONE 1200 A PARKING SPACE.

AND SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DO THE MATH OF HOW MANY SQUARE FOOTS, THEY'RE KIND OF DIVIDED BY THE YEAR, YOU END UP WITH A NUMBER THAT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND $0.50 A FOOT.

AND SO I JUST THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE DECIDE IT'S A PUBLIC BENEFIT AND IF WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN EQUITABLE IF THERE IF WE WERE GOING TO USE PRIVATE SPACE AND COMPENSATE THEM FOR $4 A FOOT OR WHATEVER THE LEASE HOLDING IS, THEY SHOULD COMPENSATE THE PUBLIC EQUALLY AS WELL AND LET THEM DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO USE IT OR NOT.

AND THE COUNCIL DID PROVIDE DIRECTION WHEN WE PRESENTED THE AMENDMENTS OR PROPOSED OPTIONS TO MODIFY THE VILLAGE BARRIO MASTER PLAN.

THE COUNCIL DID PROVIDE DIRECTION TO LOOK AT THE FEE REGULATIONS, WHICH IT IS ON OUR WORK PLAN TO DO.

SO LOOKING AT THE FEE FOR NOT ONLY THE CURB PATH PHASE, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY A FEE FOR THE SIDEWALK DINING.

OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN JUST DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IN TERMS OF ENCROACHMENTS, A LOT OF MY PAST PROFESSIONAL WORK HAS BEEN REMOVING PRIVATE ENCROACHMENTS ON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

AND SO WE START WITH A LEAN TO OR AN UMBRELLA AND THEN WE ADD, YOU KNOW, SIDE PLASTIC AND THEN WE ADD A ROOF AND IT GROWS.

AND THEN PRETTY SOON THERE'S THE RIGHT.

IT JUST GROWS AND GROWS AND GROWS OVER THE DECADES.

AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

AND SO I GUESS JUST THANK YOU FOR WATCHING THAT.

AND THEN SPEED IS EVERYTHING.

AND SO I KNOW THAT WE DO THESE CURB CAFES GENERALLY IN 25 MILE AN HOUR OR LESS POSTED ROADS.

BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I DROVE 25 MILES AN HOUR IN STATE STREET.

IT'S USUALLY AROUND FIVE OR SEVEN MILES AN HOUR.

AND MY EYES ARE EVERYWHERE.

THERE'S PEOPLE DARTING BACK AND FORTH.

RIGHT. AND SO SPEEDS ARE REAL SLOW.

AND SO I THINK THAT THE VEHICLE CONFLICT, AS LONG AS WE DON'T PUT THEM ON THOROUGHFARES AND HIGH SPEED ROADS, I THINK WE'RE YOU KNOW, IT WILL HAPPEN. HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE A SMALL EVENT RATHER THAN A BIG EVENT.

I REMEMBER ON A 45 MILE AN HOUR ROAD, A DRIVER WHO FELL ILL AND JUST CRASHED INTO A ROW OF PARKED CARS.

AND BEHIND THE PARKED CARS WAS A VERY BUSY RESTAURANT WITH A PATIO.

AND I WAS SO THANKFUL FOR THOSE CARS BECAUSE THAT DRIVER WHO FELL ILL AND COULDN'T.

HIS CAR WOULD HAVE GONE RIGHT INTO THAT PATIO AT 45 MILES AN HOUR AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DISASTER.

SO JUST A COMMENT, THANKS.

MS. ACOSTA. GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS, COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, ABOUT THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING PUBLIC BENEFITS, NOT JUST PRIVATE BENEFIT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS PROACTIVELY COMMUNICATING WITH OUR BUSINESSES, TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BE THERE ARE OUR REGULATIONS, WHAT WE NEED AS A CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH WITH ALL THE LAWS.

AND AS WE GO FORWARD, THE THINGS THAT I ALSO HOPE THAT WE STAY RIGHT ON TOP OF ARE ACCESSIBILITY REGARDING ADA WHEELCHAIRS.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FAMILIES WITH STROLLERS AND JUST NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THROUGH BECAUSE THE SIDEWALK IS SO OBSTRUCTED IS SOMETHING TO TO WATCH AND MONITOR. SAFETY IN GENERAL.

I HADN'T HEARD ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T SEE THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE THE CAR CRASHING.

BUT ACTUALLY IT HAPPENED TO ME ONCE, A LONG TIME AGO.

I WAS SITTING WITH MY DAUGHTER.

SHE WAS VERY LITTLE. AND WE WERE AT A SIDEWALK CAFE AND A CAR JUST CAME RIGHT AT US.

AND I JUMPED OVER.

I'M A MOM, RIGHT? SHE WAS A LITTLE GIRL.

SHE WAS LIKE SIX YEARS OLD.

I JUMPED OVER HER LIKE A SUPER HUMAN BEING AND, YOU KNOW, GOT HER OUT OF THE WAY.

AND THE CAR ACTUALLY HIT THE TABLE AND KNOCKED OVER THE CHAIR.

AND THE OWNER OF THE CAFE CAME RUNNING OUT AND BANGED ON THE CAR.

AND IT WAS TERRIFYING.

I JUST GOT A LITTLE FLASHBACK OF THAT SO IT CAN HAPPEN IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL.

SO WE JUST NEED TO TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

AND THEN THE OTHER IS SOMETHING I'VE RECEIVED SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ON, AND IT'S ABOUT SANITATION, MAKING SURE THAT SOMETIMES THESE STRUCTURES ARE RICKETY AND THEY DO CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT CLEANED AND PROVIDE A HOME FOR CREATURES CRITTERS.

SO JUST KEEPING AN EYE ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS, MONITORING, HAVING THAT CLOSE COMMUNICATION AND THEN WORKING ON ENFORCEMENT WHEN NECESSARY, YOU KNOW.

SO I THINK THAT'S ALL REALLY IMPORTANT.

I THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

OUR CITY IS DOING A GOOD JOB AT WORKING WITH BUSINESSES.

AND I JUST HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO SUCH A GREAT JOB.

THANKS. DR.

BHAT-PATEL. SURE THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND UPDATE.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.

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LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, RIGHT FROM THE START OF THE PANDEMIC TO REALLY FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD WORK WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

AND I DO THINK THAT WE HEAR IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT WE'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS IN THIS PARTICULAR SPACE AND REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD NAVIGATE THIS.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

OF COURSE, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE DOING SO IN A WAY THAT WE'RE BRINGING FOLKS ALONG.

AND YOU ALL ARE CONTINUING TO DO THAT.

SO JUST AS MUCH AS WE CAN EDUCATING FOLKS ON WHAT'S NEXT AND WHAT'S NEEDED.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, LIKE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED, ANY SORT OF LEGISLATION, ANY SORT OF, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD IN TERMS OF REGULATIONS, MAKING SURE FOLKS ARE AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN I THINK JUST IN GENERAL, I AGREE THE WALK OF WALKABILITY FACTOR SOMETIMES CAN BE CHALLENGING.

SO I THINK JUST BEING MINDFUL OF THAT AND THEN OF COURSE MAKING SURE FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE THAT WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, BECAUSE MANY OF US ARE OUT DOWN THERE AND WE KNOW THOSE CAFÉS EXIST, BUT ENSURING THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF VISIBILITY TO MAKE SURE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE FROM OUT OF TOWN, THAT THEY KNOW THAT IT EXISTS AND THEY'RE NOT JUST SPEEDING THROUGH THAT WAY.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, REALLY SUPPORTIVE, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THIS MOVE FORWARD.

AND THAT'S IT. THANKS.

SINCE MY FIRST DAY ON THE COUNCIL, ONE OF THE TOPICS OF CONVERSATION WAS HOW DO WE KEEP THE DOWNTOWN VILLAGE VIBRANT? I THINK THIS REALLY HAS BEEN A HUGE IMPROVEMENT TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

I MEAN, I'M GOING TO KEEP THROWING DOWN OTHER CITIES.

I'M SORRY, BUT I WAS IN SAN DIEGO AND SOME OF THOSE THAT WERE DOWN ON LIKE FOURTH STREET LOOK LIKE THEY WERE PUT TOGETHER IN AN AFTERNOON.

SOME OF OURS, THERE IS SOME THOUGHT AND SOME PRIDE PUT INTO THOSE.

AND I'M SURE IT'S BECAUSE THEY TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR BUSINESS.

BUT I'M GUESSING IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF PRODDING FROM OUR STAFF AS WELL AND KEEPING THE STANDARDS HIGH.

SO FOR THAT, I APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU.

WE'RE A TOURISTY CITY.

I THINK IT GIVES US OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OR TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR WEATHER AND IT GIVES PERSONALITY TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SOMETHING I NEVER THOUGHT OF WAS WHAT MR. NORBY TALKED ABOUT. SO NOW HE'S GOT ME A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE USING PROPERTY FOR FREE THAT BELONGS TO THE TO THE RESIDENTS.

BUT I'LL OVERLOOK THAT FOR NOW.

SORRY, PETER, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT JUST DOES SO MUCH FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT IT AND LOVE IT AND THANK YOU FOR MANAGING IT.

THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATION ONLY.

SO THERE'S NO VOTE.

WE'VE ALL MADE OUR COMMENTS, SO WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM AND INVITE THE MAYOR BACK.

BACK.

ITEM 12, IMPLEMENTATION OF DEMAND REDUCTION ACTIONS FOR WATER SHORTAGE, LEVEL TWO, TO COMPLY WITH NEW STATE WATER RESOURCE CONTROL BOARD EMERGENCY REGULATIONS. MR. PANTANO, INTRODUCTIONS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE PRESENTATION WILL BE GIVEN BY UTILITIES DIRECTOR VICKI QUIRAM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING.

BOARD MEMBERS OF THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND OUR ACTING PRESIDENT.

TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DEMAND REDUCTION ACTIONS FOR WATER SHORTAGE LEVEL TWO.

AND OUR PROPOSED ACTION.

I WILL WAIT AND GO OVER THAT AT THE END.

AND BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER ON MAY 24TH, THE STATE WATER BOARD, THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD, WHICH I CALL THE STATE WATER BOARD, PUT TO PUT OUT AN EMERGENCY REGULATION WHICH HAD CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

THEY'RE PRETTY SIMPLE REQUIREMENTS.

AS IT AS IT TURNS OUT, WE ARE TO IMPLEMENT ALL DEMAND REDUCTION ACTIONS FOR OUR WATER SHORTAGE LEVEL TWO BY JUNE 10TH, VERY SHORT IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD WILL GO OVER WHAT THOSE LEVEL TWO ACTIONS ARE.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE LEVEL TWO, IMPLEMENTING THE LEVEL TWO ACTIONS IS DIFFERENT FROM US SAYING THAT WE HAVE A LEVEL TWO DROUGHT AND THAT WE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE DO HAVE ENOUGH SUPPLY FOR THE DEMAND IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT THIS LEVEL TWO DROUGHT WAS PUT INTO PLACE BY THE GOVERNOR AND BY THE STATE BOARD FOR EVERY AGENCY IN THE STATE TO HELP US TAKE OUT ACTIONS TO REDUCE THE EFFECT OF THE CURRENT STATEWIDE DROUGHT, WHICH ARE VERY SERIOUS AT THIS POINT.

SO THE SECOND REQUIREMENT ON THIS IS THAT THEY'RE BANNING IRRIGATION OF NONFUNCTIONAL TURF IN COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL FACILITIES.

AND NON FUNCTIONAL TURF IS GRASS THAT IS IN ONE OF THESE AREAS THAT IS NOT BEING USED BY PEOPLE.

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THERE'S NO FUNCTION. SO THERE'S NO SPORTS, THERE'S NO PLAYGROUND, THERE'S NOTHING SO NO IRRIGATION ON THOSE TYPE OF GRASS AREAS.

WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF THOSE GRASS AREAS IN CARLSBAD BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE SO MUCH FOR CONSERVATION ALREADY.

THE THIRD THING IS THAT IS I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THE REGULATION SAYS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DECLARE A LEVEL TWO SHORTAGE, BUT ONLY IF WE DO HAVE A SUPPLY SHORTAGE AND WE ARE DOING AN ANNUAL ASSESSMENT AS A NEW REQUIREMENT OF THE STATE BOARD.

AND YOU WILL BE SEEING IT VERY SOON AT ONE OF YOUR NEXT MEETINGS, OUR ANNUAL WE HAVE GONE THROUGH A ROBUST ANALYSIS AND WE DO HAVE ENOUGH SUPPLY FOR OUR DEMAND FOR THE NEXT YEAR FOR THE FOUR FOR OUR ANNUAL REPORT.

SO THAT WOULD CERTAINLY NOT THROW US INTO GOING DECLARING A WATER SHORTAGE.

THE OTHER REASON IS IF THE SUPPLY IF THE STATE BOARD DECIDES TO REQUIRE IT LATER AND THEY SAID THEY'VE PUT IT OUT THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR DATA AND 90 DAYS.

AND IF IN FACT, WE HAVE NOT REDUCED OUR WATER USAGE, WE MAY BE THEY MAY BE IMPLEMENTING SOME ADDITIONAL VERY STRINGENT WATER DROUGHT CONSERVATION ISSUES. LEVEL TWO ACTIONS.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE STAY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOUR BOARD HAS TAKEN CARE OF WATER CONSERVATION.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ACTIONS IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT WE STAY IN ALL THE TIME.

WE HAVE ACTIONS THAT WE WERE TAKING ALL THE TIME.

AND THEN SINCE THE LAST DROUGHT, WE'VE STAYED ON A LEVEL, ONE ACTION LEVEL, WHICH AGAIN IS A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE DO FOR WATER CONSERVATION.

SO WHAT I HAVE LISTED HERE IS JUST THE ADDITIONAL ACTIONS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE.

SO WE'RE CONTINUE IMPLEMENTING LEVEL ONE ACTIONS AND THOSE ALWAYS IN EFFECT, WHICH THIS BOARD HAS SUPPORTED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, LIMIT THE WATERING TO THREE ASSIGNED DAYS PER WEEK. SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS, IS WE WILL BE COMING OUT AND WE'LL BE GIVING EVEN NUMBERS A CERTAIN DAY, EVEN NUMBER ADDRESSES, CERTAIN DAYS TO WATER AND ODD NUMBER ADDRESSES OTHER DAYS TO WATER.

WE ARE TO LIMIT OUR IRRIGATION STATIONS TO 10 MINUTES PER STATION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A LONG TIME.

SO PROBABLY WE'LL SAY A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES PER STATION.

THERE IS THIS.

THIS NEXT ONE IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WATER UNLESS YOU USE HAND-HELD HOSES WITH SHUT OFF NOZZLES OR BUCKETS ON YOUR ASSIGNED DAYS.

SO THAT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS WHERE PEOPLE ARE TO REPAIR LEAKS WITHIN 72 HOURS.

RIGHT NOW, WE GIVE THEM FIVE DAYS AND NO ORNAMENTAL FOUNTAINS UNLESS THEY USE RECIRCULATED WATER AND DON'T NEED TO BE REFILLED.

THOSE ARE THE NEW, NEW THINGS WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE.

SO WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? TONIGHT, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION.

WE WOULD THEN START IMPLEMENTING LEVEL TWO ACTIONS, WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT YOU SAW LISTED THERE.

THE MAIN THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AND OUR COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT IS WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH US ALREADY TO GET THE EDUCATION OUT THERE, TO GET THE OUTREACH OUT THERE, TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THEM, WHY WE WANT TO WANT THEM TO DO IT.

SO EDUCATION AND OUTREACH WILL START.

AND THEN FROM THE WATER.

FROM OUR JOB, WE NEED TO RESPOND TO PEOPLE.

WE NEED TO MONITOR.

WE NEED TO HELP THEM SAVE WATER IN ANY WAY THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.

AND WE NEED AND WE HAVE TO COLLECT THE DATA AND REPORT IT TO THE REGIONAL BOARD ON A REGULAR BASIS SO THAT THEY CAN DECIDE WHAT'S NEXT.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DETAILS WITH THIS.

WITH THE LEVEL TWO THAT I HAVEN'T GONE OVER, THOSE WILL BE INCLUDED IN ALL OF OUR OUTREACH.

YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE IF YOU WANTED US TO TONIGHT, WE COULD GO THROUGH THE DETAILS.

MARIO IS READY TO GO THROUGH EVERY DETAIL OF WHAT'S NEEDED.

THE MAIN THING I NEED YOU TO KNOW IS IT'S NOT APPLICABLE TO RECYCLED WATER, THAT WE CAN STILL USE OUR RECYCLED WATER, THANK GOODNESS, WHICH IS A BIG SUPPLY FOR US.

AND I'M READY BASICALLY TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED ACTION THAT YOU ADOPT A RESOLUTION THAT GIVES THE EXECUTIVE MANAGER THE POWER TO IMPLEMENT OUR DEMAND REDUCTIONS FOR LEVEL TWO AND THAT WE COMPLY WITH THE EMERGENCY REGULATIONS OF THE STATE BOARD.

SPEAKERS. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

QUESTIONS. DR.

BHAT-PATEL. YES.

THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I KNOW RECENTLY I WAS ASKED WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF WATER CONSERVATION.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE MANY EFFORTS IN PLACE WITHIN THE CITY.

AND I KNOW YOU JUST MENTIONED A FEW OTHERS THAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.

SO JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY HOW MUCH DO WE END UP CONSERVING? YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED.

SO I'D LOVE TO ASK IF THERE IS A NUMBER AROUND IT, WHAT THAT TENDS TO LOOK LIKE.

SO RIGHT BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE, I LOOKED AT THE DATA FROM 1990 TO 2020, AND THIS IS JUST THE BASIC TOTAL AMOUNT WE USE BECAUSE

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YOU CAN LOOK AT DATA IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WATER WE USE DIVIDED BY OUR POPULATION.

FOR THOSE YEARS, THIS COMMUNITY HAS REDUCED THE GALLONS PER CAPITA PER DAY BY 58%, ALMOST 60%.

THAT'S HOW MUCH WE'VE ALREADY REDUCED.

IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO REDUCE BY ANOTHER 10% OR 20% LIKE THE STATE WANTS US TO DO, BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY HAS JUST DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF SAVING ALREADY.

THANKS FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT.

I THINK THAT'S JUST A TESTAMENT TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU GOING INTO SOME OF THAT DETAIL AND JUST SHARING THE TIMELINE.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES THAT YOU SHARED WAS WITH REGARDS TO EDUCATION.

OF COURSE, THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH.

I KNOW A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IN THE CITY DO.

SO IN TERMS OF THAT PUBLIC OUTREACH, WHAT WHAT WILL THAT BE LOOKING LIKE AND HOW CAN I KNOW YOU MENTIONED FOLKS CAN GO ONLINE, BUT IS THERE ANOTHER PIECE ASSOCIATED? THERE WILL BE SO MANY PIECES THAT ARE GOING TO GO WITH THAT.

THE WATER AUTHORITY IS COMING UP WITH A TOOL KIT, WITH TOOL KITS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING EVENTS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE THIS IS GOING TO BE A SERIOUS, SERIOUS HANDS ON OUTREACH AND HANDS ON REDUCTION.

WE HAVE THE WATER AUTHORITY THAT'S WORKING ON IT.

WE HAVE METROPOLITAN THAT'S WORKING ON IT.

WE HAVE THE STATE BOARD THAT HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF TOOLKITS AND THINGS THAT WE CAN USE THAT INCENTIVES THAT ARE COMING OUT ARE INCREDIBLY GOOD.

THEY HAVE BEEN FOR A WHILE, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO RE INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WANT TO CHANGE THEIR LAWNS.

THEY HAVE A NEW ONE FOR THE MARGINALIZED POPULATION WHERE THEY ACTUALLY COME IN AND NOT ONLY GIVE YOU A TOILET, LOW FLOW TOILET, BUT THEY WILL INSTALL IT FOR YOU.

THERE'S JUST ALL KINDS OF VERY INTERESTING AND INNOVATIVE NEW WAYS FOR US TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE.

AWESOME. AND THE LAST PIECE I KNOW, LAST QUESTION WOULD BE AROUND.

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I KNOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR REGULATION OBVIOUSLY HAS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS THAT RESIDENTS WILL BE HAVING TO COMPLY WITH AS WELL.

IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR REGULATION, DOES IT PLACE ANY SORT OF PENALTIES ON FOLKS THAT WON'T BE COMPLYING? AND IF SO, HOW DOES THAT THEN ROLL OUT? THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT REGULATION AND THIS SAYS, YES, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

BUT WE EVEN THE STATE BOARD IS SAYING WE WANT YOU TO BE SOFT WITH YOUR REGULATION, WITH YOUR ENFORCEMENT.

AND SO WE WILL BE HELPING PEOPLE, WILL BE WILL BE WE WILL BE TALKING TO THEM.

IF WE FIND PEOPLE THAT ARE EGREGIOUS, WE WILL BE VERY MUCH ENCOURAGING THEM TO COME BACK IN AND DO IT CORRECTLY.

AND EVENTUALLY, I THINK IF WE DON'T DO DO SOMETHING, IF WE HAVE EGREGIOUS PEOPLE THAT JUST ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL, WE MAY HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF ENFORCEMENT, BUT THAT'S THEY ARE REALLY NOT PUTTING US IN A SITUATION TO SAY START ENFORCING AND START FINDING PEOPLE RIGHT AWAY.

AND THE REGULATIONS ARE VERY CLEAR ON THAT.

OKAY. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

I'M GLAD THAT IT WILL BE MORE EDUCATION BASED AND MORE JUST TRYING TO SHIFT BEHAVIOR VERSUS ANYTHING ELSE.

SO THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR THE HARD WORK.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. QUESTION.

I GOT A COMMENT. OKAY.

I JUST DID I READ THAT RIGHT WHERE IT SAYS IF YOU DON'T HAVE IRRIGATION, YOU CAN WATER BY HAND WITH A SHUT OFF OR YOU CAN WATER WITH A BUCKET.

STATE HAS SUCH GREAT IDEAS, DON'T THEY? DO WE HEAR MAYOR SITS ON THE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY AND HE BRAGS ABOUT HOW WELL PREPARED OUR COUNTY IS AND HOW WE'VE MADE HUGE INVESTMENTS TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE WATER INDEPENDENT.

ARE WE BEING PAINTED WITH THAT SAME WIDE BRUSH DOWN THE ENTIRE STATE OR DO WE GET DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS? WE ARE BEING PAINTED RIGHT NOW WITH THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE STATE.

SO I MEAN, AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND WE DO HAVE ENOUGH SUPPLY.

BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HAPPENING IS BECAUSE WE DO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, WE'RE NOT TAKING A DROP OF WATER FROM NORTHERN CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW.

NOT A DROP. WE BUT WE DO TAKE WATER FROM THE COLORADO RIVER.

AND YOU SEE THE PICTURES OF LAKE MEAD.

THIS IS IT IS A HISTORICAL DROUGHT.

AND SO THEY WANT US ALL TO TO PITCH IN.

AND I THINK WE ALL NEED TO PITCH IN.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE WATER AUTHORITY'S MESSAGE CHANGE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S CONFUSING TO SAY WE HAVE ALL THE WATER WE NEED AND THEN TO ASK PEOPLE TO JUST TO SAVE WATER. SO, YES, OUR WATER IS VERY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN WATER SUPPLY.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA, DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? YEAH GO AHEAD FOR COMMENT.

OKAY, GREAT. I WANTED TO THANK OUR STAFF SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

AND I WANT TO REINFORCE THAT LAST POINT ABOUT HOW CONFUSING IT HAS BEEN READING THE NEWS.

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I READ NEWS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE AND CNN AND OTHER NEWS.

AND YOU HEAR ABOUT CALIFORNIA'S EXTREME DROUGHT AND HOW WE ALL NEED TO BUTTON DOWN AND NOT WATER ANYTHING.

SO I THINK GETTING OUR MESSAGING CONSISTENT WITH THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, MAKING SURE WE'VE GOT THAT TOOLKIT TO DO THE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, AS COUNCILMEMBER BHAT-PATEL MENTIONED EARLIER OR ASKED ABOUT EARLIER.

AND THEN I THINK THE INCENTIVES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL.

SO HAVING THINGS LIKE THE LAST TIME WE HAD A DROUGHT WITH SOME SOME OF THESE MEASURES, WE HAD RAIN BARRELS THAT THAT WERE BEING OFFERED AND PEOPLE WERE LEARNING WHAT IS A RAIN BARREL, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU CAN COLLECT WATER AND USE THOSE BUCKETS.

WE DO USE THEM TO WATER OUR FRUIT TREES IN MY IN MY YARD, THE BUCKETS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN WE CAN ALL PITCH IN AND PARTICIPATE.

AND I LOVE THAT WE'VE GOT THIS KIND OF SOFT ENFORCEMENT, BUT REALLY EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FOCUSED APPROACH.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON IT.

AND I'M YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOUGH, TOUGH SITUATION TO BE IN TO HAVE ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS.

BUT WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, AND I THINK THIS IS THE BEST APPROACH.

THANKS. MY FINAL COMMENTS ARE THIS.

THIS YEAR IS A VOTING YEAR.

IT'S A CHANCE FOR US TO STAND UP AND HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD.

THE GOVERNOR WANTS US TO BUILD 2.5 MILLION HOMES BETWEEN NOW AND 2030.

BUT YET WE'RE ALL BEING ASKED TO CUT BACK HOW MUCH IN WATER? THE COLORADO RIVER RIGHT NOW IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW, AN ALL TIME LOW.

UNDER THE WETTEST YEARS, IT'LL TAKE US 20 YEARS TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

BUT YET WE'RE BEING ASKED TO BUILD 2.5 MILLION HOMES BETWEEN NOW AND 2030.

THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

THAT'S 350,000 NEW HOMES PER YEAR.

SO I ASK, WHERE IS THE LOGIC THERE? SAN DIEGO COUNTY HAS THE MOST EXPENSIVE WATER RATES IN THE STATE, BUT WE HAVE WATER RELIABILITY.

WE HAVE, WHAT, THREE YEARS THAT WE CAN PROVE THAT WE HAVE WATER TO WHERE WE CAN MEET OUR WATER DEMANDS.

ON TOP OF THAT.

AND I'M VERY RELUCTANT TO SPEAK TO NUMBERS.

BUT THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO IN EAST COUNTY IS IT ARE BOTH DOING MAJOR, MAJOR WATER RECLAMATION.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT YOU PICK A NUMBER IS AT 25% OF THE DEMAND, 2025, WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE 20 TO 25% OF OUR DEMAND OUT OF WATER OUT OF THE REGION WITH WATER RECLAMATION GOING FORWARD OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

SO NOT ONLY HAVE WE PLAN FOR THE PAST.

WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.

AND BY THE WAY, SACRAMENTO, ALL THE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS IN SACRAMENTO DO NOT HAVE WATER METERS.

SO HOW DO YOU CUT BACK FOR SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T HAVE A WATER METER? SO TO ME, THIS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AT ALL.

THE PEOPLE WHO STAND UP AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT PLAN FOR THE FUTURE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE.

TO ME, IT MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING STAFF'S DONE.

I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY HAS DONE.

I APPRECIATE OUR PREVIOUS MEMBERS ON THE BOARD GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1990 AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

AND AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO PAT CARLSBAD ON THE BACK.

WE RECLAIM MORE MORE OF OUR EFFLUENT THAN WHAT WE PRODUCE TODAY, EVEN OUR OWN CITY.

SO IT'S YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING.

WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH WATER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT'LL DO WITH IT ALL, BUT WE CAN'T SELL IT.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.

SO WITH THAT.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

LISTENING TO WHAT MAYOR IS SAYING AND KNOWING WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE WATER SUPPLY, WHAT IF WE VOTE NO? OR DO WE EVEN HAVE THE CHOICE OF VOTING NO? NOT REALLY.

IT'S A REGULATION.

SO WE HAVE NO CHOICE. THIS IS JUST A FORMALITY.

AND I THINK THE STATE BOARD WOULD BE ALL OVER US.

WE DO HAVE A CHOICE, AND THAT'S HOW WE ELECT THE LEADERSHIP IN SACRAMENTO TO BE PRACTICAL AND REALISTIC IN WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.

AND I SAY THAT NOT JUST BECAUSE THE WATER DEMAND, BUT YET THEY WANT TO BUILD, BUILD, BUILD.

AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T BUILD, BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE THE WATER AND ELECTRICITY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN ORDER TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE.

THERE'S THERE'S NO PLANNING, NO PLANNING ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THIS THIS THIS STATE NEEDS.

SO, MR. BLACKBURN.

MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

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SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. OK.

THIS ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THAT'S ITEM 12.

WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM, ITEM 13, FISCAL YEAR 202-23 PRELIMINARY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION PROGRAMS. MAYOR, MAY I MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE THIS ONE? OK. SURE.

THIS ITEM IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PLAN.

INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR FIVE PROJECTS TO BE PAUSED OR DELAYED.

I'M SORRY, THOSE ARE CIP PROJECTS TO BE PAUSED OR DELAYED AS A RESULT OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S PRIOR DECISION TO ACCELERATE LIGHTING AND TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PROJECTS IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREA.

THE MAYOR HAS A DISQUALIFYING REAL PROPERTY AND HAS DISQUALIFYING REAL PROPERTY AND BUSINESS INTERESTS IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREA.

HE PREVIOUSLY RECUSED HIMSELF FROM THE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND DECISION TO ACCELERATE PROJECTS IN THAT AREA BECAUSE A DECISION TO PAUSE OR DELAY OTHER PROJECTS WILL EFFECTIVELY AFFIRM THE DECISION TO ACCELERATE THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREA PROJECTS.

THE DECISIONS ARE CONSIDERED INEXTRICABLY INTERRELATED, AND THE MAYOR MUST ALSO RECUSE HIMSELF ON THE DECISION TO PAUSE OR DELAY THE OTHER PROJECTS, AS THE MAYOR IS NOT REQUIRED TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM DISCUSSIONS OR DECISIONS OF THE REMAINING CIP PROJECTS OR ON ANY OF THE STIP PROJECTS. THE MAYOR WILL LISTEN TO THE STAFF PRESENTATION AND PUBLIC COMMENTS.

HE WILL THEN RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THE DISCUSSION AND DECISION ON WHETHER TO PAUSE OR DELAY OTHER PROJECTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE ACCELERATION OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREA PROJECTS. ONCE THAT DISCUSSION AND DECISION ARE COMPLETED, HE WILL RETURN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEM.

OKAY WITH THAT? WE'LL HAVE THE STAFF REPORT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THE PRESENTATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY DEPUTY CITY MANAGER PUBLIC WORKS PAZ GOMEZ AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR MARIA CALLENDAR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS PAZ GOMEZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

AND WITH ME IS MARIA CALENDAR DIRECTOR.

THIS EVENING WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR CIP.

AND I WILL BE DOING THAT PRESENTATION AND THE STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PROGRAM, OR SDTIP, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY MS. CALLANDER. SO OUR RECOMMENDED ACTIONS IS FOR COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE REPORT, PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON ANY CHANGES THAT MAY BE DESIRED.

AND THIS IS PREVIOUSLY SET.

THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET AND THE CIP AND THE SDTIP BUDGETS WILL BE SET OR HAS BEEN SET FOR JUNE 14. SO IT'S BACKGROUND ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

IT INVOLVES OUR MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE ASSETS.

IT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION, REHABILITATION OR REPLACEMENT OF ABOVE AND BELOW GROUND FACILITIES.

IT IS A 15 YEAR FUNDING PLAN THAT'S APPROVED ANNUALLY BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE BUDGET IS APPROPRIATED BY FISCAL YEAR.

AND OUR FOCUS IS ON MAINTAINING THE HIGH QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND VISITORS TO THE CITY.

SO THE CIP DEVELOPMENT INVOLVES MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS, SUCH AS MAKING SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN HEALTH AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.

ANY REGULATORY OR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS? ANY POLICY DOCUMENTS SUCH AS A GENERAL PLAN, GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.

SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

ANY COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS WELL AS THE ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY.

WE DO HAVE A PRIORITIZATION PROCESS DEFINED IN OUR ADMIN ORDER 50, WHICH INCLUDES INCORPORATING COUNCIL PRIORITIES, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, VOTER APPROVAL REQUIREMENT, WHICH WE REFER TO AS PROPOSITION H FOR GREATER THAN $1 MILLION OF GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES. ALIGNMENT WITH OTHER STRATEGIC GOALS, ALSO INCLUDING STAFF, PROJECT MANAGEMENT CAPACITY, ANY PROJECT COSTS OR AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING, ANY IMPACTS SUCH AS BUSINESS CASES AND ANY DATE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD NEED DUE TO REGULATORY OR LEGAL CONSTRAINTS.

AS WELL AS LOOKING AT THE PROJECT STATUS, SCHEDULING, SEQUENCING, ANY TECHNICAL CONSTRAINTS AND ALSO ALTERNATIVE DELIVERY METHODS SUCH AS DESIGN BUILD INSTEAD OF THE MORE TRADITIONAL DESIGN BID BUILD.

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SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS PROVIDED A MAP OF OUR PROJECTS.

SO OFF TO YOUR LEFT IS THE ENTIRE 15 YEAR CIP PROJECT THAT'S DESIGNATED.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DIFFERENT COLORS DESIGNATE THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.

WE'VE APPLIED AN ASSET MANAGEMENT APPROACH TO ENSURE CONTINUITY AND SAFETY OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CITYWIDE, AND THAT MEANS STARTING FROM PLANNING TO DESIGNING, CONSTRUCTING AND MAINTAINING AND CONTINUING THAT LIFE CYCLE.

THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS IN OUR OLDER AREAS OF THE CITY REQUIRE MORE MAINTENANCE DUE TO AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE DO CONSIDER COMMUNITY REQUESTS AND INPUT AT ALL TIMES. AND THIS MAP IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE WHERE WE ALSO HAVE THE CIP PUBLIC DASHBOARD.

TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF CITYWIDE PROJECTS ACROSS THE BOARD.

HERE'S A LIST OF ALL OF THEM WHICH IS JUST A BIT OF AN EYEFUL, BUT JUST WANTED TO CALL OUT A COUPLE, INCLUDING THE CITYWIDE STREET LIGHTING PROGRAM, THE THERMOPLASTIC PAVEMENT MARKINGS, AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN, THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, AS WELL AS ANY SEWER CONDITION MODELING, ETC.. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS DESIGNATED IN THE MAP OFF TO YOUR RIGHT.

AND SOME OF THEM JUST TO CALL OUT A FEW INCLUDE OUR EL CAMINO REAL AND CANNON ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS WERE RECENTLY INSTALLED THIS REALLY COOL PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.

WE ALSO HAVE THE FIRE STATION TO REPLACEMENT THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW THAT IS ON TARGET TO BE COMPLETED AS WELL AS THE POINSETTIA COMMUNITY PARK DOG PARK, WHICH WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETED SOON.

SO FOR FY 23 UPDATES, WE WILL GO OVER TO COUNCIL DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THE THREE CIP WORKSHOPS ON APRIL 20TH, APRIL 26 AND MAY 3RD, AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE COMPLETED REMOVED AND NEW PROJECTS AS WELL AS OUR PROJECTED REVENUES.

SO COUNCIL DIRECTION DURING THE APRIL 26 MEETING INCLUDED ACCELERATING THE TYLER STREET TRAFFIC CIRCULATION STUDY, VILLAGE AND BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND ALL OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO LIGHTING PROJECTS.

STAFF ACTIONS TO DATE IS WE'RE PREPARING A SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE TYLER STREET STUDY WHEN AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF LATE 2024.

WE'VE ASSIGNED A PROJECT MANAGER TO FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS IN THE VILLAGE TO COMPLETE THEM A YEAR AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

AND WE'RE INCORPORATING THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING PROJECT, A PORTION OF IT, SO THAT WE CAN SAVE TIME AND MONEY.

AND WE'RE ADDING SIX NEW PROJECTS TO ADDRESS ALL LOCATIONS AND THE VILLAGE DECORATIVE LIGHTING STUDY THAT WAS PREPARED IN 2019.

ANOTHER COUNCIL DIRECTION WAS TO WORK WITH OTHER REGIONAL AGENCIES TO PRIORITIZE THE TRENCHING PROJECT STUDIES.

REMOVE THIS PROJECT FROM THE CIP LIST, RE-IDENTIFY COSTS FOR STUDIES AND WORK WITH SANDAG AND LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES TO SEEK FUNDING.

FOR A PROPOSED ACTION IS TO REMOVE IT FROM THE CIP LIST.

WITH THIS PRESENTATION AND WE HAVE $12,675 OF THE PRIOR FUNDING BALANCE THAT WE WILL BE REALLOCATING.

AND ALSO OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR WILL BE WORKING WITH OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR TO PURSUE OTHER REGIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO SECURE FUNDING.

AS FAR AS THE THIRD COUNCIL DIRECTION IS TO PRIORITIZE MAINTENANCE REPAIRS WITHIN THE CURRENT BUDGET ON THE MONROE STREET POOL THROUGH 2026.

WE HAVE COMPLETED IDENTIFIED MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR ITEMS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THOSE MAINTENANCE NEEDS UNTIL THE FACILITY HAS BEEN REPLACED.

WE ARE WORKING ON A PROPOSED BALLOT LANGUAGE WHICH WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND THE DEADLINE FOR PLACING SUCH A BALLOT ON NOVEMBER 2022 IS IN MID-AUGUST.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROJECT REVIEW CRITERIA WHEN WE HAVE ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT START ADDING UP AND LOOKING THE SAME.

BUT WE LOOKED AT WHAT ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE SIMILAR SKILLS WITH A PROPOSAL OF WHAT IT IS THAT IS HAS BEEN ACCELERATED.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ADDRESSING SIMILAR TYPES OF PROJECTS.

AND THEN WHAT DO WE NEED TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY? AND WHAT DID WE NEED TO MEET OUR LEGAL MANDATES AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO MEET OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FACILITY STANDARDS? AND THEN WHAT IS IT THAT HAS GRANT FUNDING THAT COULD BE LOST DUE TO DELAY? AND WHAT ENDED UP RESULTING IS THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE HERE.

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SO THERE WERE SOME IMPACTS TO OTHER PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE COLLEGE BOULEVARD EXTENSION PROJECT.

SO STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT THE CURRENT PROJECT FIELD WORK AND OTHER ACTIVITIES BE PAUSED UNTIL AVAILABLE PROJECT MANAGEMENT RESOURCES BECOME AVAILABLE FOR THAT PROJECT.

THE ESTIMATED RESTART WOULD BE IN 2023 OR LATER.

THE SECOND PROJECT THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED IS THE TERRAMAR AREA COASTAL IMPROVEMENTS, THE ROADWAY PORTION.

THIS PROJECT MAY BE DELAYED BY AN ADDITIONAL YEAR TO 2026.

THERE IS A PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH IT FOR UTILITIES THAT WILL CONTINUE AS PLANNED AND WILL BE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL LATER THIS YEAR FOR THAT PROJECT.

AND THEN AFTER THAT IS COMPLETED AND THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WILL CONTINUE.

VALLEY AND MAGNOLIA, COMPLETE STREETS THAT THE PROJECT MAY BE DELAYED BY AN ADDITIONAL YEAR TO 2027.

THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WILL BE ONGOING AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING ALREADY IMPROVED MAGNOLIA AVENUE STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENTS.

ALSO, THERE'S UTILITIES UNDERGROUNDING IN THAT SAME AREA.

AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE THE COMPLETE STREETS, WHICH ARE IMPACTED BECAUSE OF THE NEARBY SCHOOLS AND SCHEDULING DURING THE SUMMER BREAKS.

NEXT IS THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING THIS YEAR IS TO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT COMBINES DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

SO THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ARE THE FIRST TO BE INCLUDED INTO THE PROGRAM, WHICH WILL CONTINUE AND BE IMPLEMENTED.

HOWEVER, THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS MAY BE DELAYED BY AN ADDITIONAL YEAR TO 2024, AND THAT INCLUDES PROJECTS THAT CANNON ROAD AND PASEO DEL NORTE, JEFFERSON STREET, LA COSTA AVENUE, LAS FLORES DRIVE AND TAMARACK AVENUE.

AND THEN LASTLY IS THE BRIDGE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, AND THERE ARE SOME MAINTENANCE PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE DEFERRED BY A YEAR.

SO THIS IS A PICTURE, A MAP WITH REGARDS TO SHOWING WHAT HAS BEEN ACCELERATED, WHICH ARE THE ONES IN GREEN AND THEN THE ONES THAT ARE DELAYED, WHICH IS THE ONE IN YELLOW AS PART OF THE 15 YEAR CIP PROJECT.

THAT IS EXCUSE ME, THE MAP THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE CIP PROJECTS.

AND THAT'S THE LARGER MAP TO YOUR LEFT.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE SMALLER MAP IN THE MIDDLE, THAT JUST SHOWS THE PROJECTS THAT WERE ACTUALLY ACCELERATED, AS WAS EARLIER MENTIONED.

AND THE ONES IN YELLOW ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DELAYED.

SO THE OVERALL FY 23 BUDGET PROGRAM INCLUDES 56 OR WAS TARGETED TO BE 82.7 MILLION LAST YEAR WHEN WE PRESENTED THE FY 22 CIP BUDGET.

AT THAT TIME, WE HAD APPROPRIATED 56 MILLION FOR THE CIP.

THIS YEAR FOR FY 23, WE'RE PROPOSING 43.4 MILLION, OF WHICH 2.1 MILLION IS FOR NEW PROJECTS.

SO BIT OF A REVIEW ON THE FY 23 PROJECTS BY ASSET CLASSIFICATION, MORE THAN HALF ARE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS ARE 36%. AND WE HAVE PROJECT ACCOUNTING AND PLANNING SMALLER PERCENTAGES.

AND THEN WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION AT 46% OF THE PROJECTS AND WE HAVE UTILITIES PROJECTS OF SEWER WATER, RECYCLED WATER OF ABOUT 38%.

AND THEN THE OTHERS ARE SMALLER PERCENTAGES.

SO JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS IN SUPPORT OF CITY COUNCIL GOALS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND NATURAL ENVIRONMENT MOVING FORWARD AND PROVIDING MIRACLE RESERVOIR SOLAR PROJECT $250,000.

KELLY DRIVE CHANNEL REPAIR 500,000 AND A FLEET FUEL ISLAND UPGRADE 500,000.

FOR THE COMMUNITY CHARACTER, WE HAVE A VILLAGE IN BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES FOR 1.4 MILLION GRAND AVENUE PROMENADE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR 200,000.

THE KELLY AND PARK DRIVE COMPLETE STREET IMPROVEMENTS FOR 500,000 QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFETY.

WE HAVE BEACH ACCESS REPAIR AND UPGRADES FROM PINE AVENUE TO TAMARACK FOR 1.8 MILLION.

CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, WATERLINE REPLACEMENT AT TERRAMAR, $1.3 MILLION.

THE EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING FROM POINSETTIA TO CAMINO VIDA ROBLE, SUNNY CREEK RD TO JACSPAR DRIVE FOR $1 MILLION.

SO FOR ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE CALAVERA HILLS COMMUNITY CENTER REFURBISHMENT FOR 1.3 MILLION, SENIOR CENTER

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REFURBISHMENT FOR 600,000 AND FLEET MAINTENANCE REFURBISHMENT FOR 500,000.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME COMPLETED PROJECTS WHICH ARE INDICATED IN OUR PROJECT ACCOUNT THAT THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETED.

AND SO 15 PROJECTS WILL RETURN APPROXIMATELY 7.5 MILLION TO THE ORIGINAL FUNDING SOURCE.

SO THESE PROJECTS INCLUDE ADA OR AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

THIS WAS TAKEN IN DISTRICT ONE, ALTAMIRA WATER MAIN RELOCATION THAT WE WORKED ON ADJACENT TO I-5, BARRIO LIGHTING, PHASE ONE, CADENCIA STREET, RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC CALMING.

CALAVERA HILLS COMMUNITY PARK, GATEWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND THE COLLEGE BOULEVARD SPEED FEEDBACK SIGNS.

AND THEN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF OUR STAFF WORKING ON A CONCRETE REPAIR PROGRAM FOR DISTRICT FOUR.

EL CAMINO REAL AND COLLEGE BOULEVARD, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, OCEAN STREET PARKING LOT, DRAINAGE OUTFALL STRUCTURES AND PARK LIGHTING RETROFITS AT CALAVERAS, POINSETTIA AND STAGECOACH.

SO WE ALSO DID SEGOVIA WAY IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT COMPLETES OUR COMPLETED PROJECTS.

WE'RE ALSO CONSISTENTLY LOOKING AT STREAMLINING OUR CIP, SO ANNUALLY WE EVALUATE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND THE SCOPE.

SOME PROJECTS ARE REMOVED FROM THE CIP LIST AND ANY AVAILABLE BALANCES ARE RETURNED TO THEIR ORIGINAL SOURCES.

THE REMOVED PROJECTS ARE PER COUNCIL DIRECTION, THE VILLAGE RAILROAD TRENCHING PROJECT.

AND THEN THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'VE CONSOLIDATED WITH OTHERS, INCLUDING THE ONES MENTIONED FOR SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL LA COSTA AVENUE AND LEVANTE STREET, WHICH IS INCORPORATED INTO ANOTHER CIP PROJECT.

AND THEN THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE LISTED HERE AND I WON'T GO OVER ALL OF THEM THAT ARE NO LONGER WARRANTED, WHICH WAS WHY THEY WERE REMOVED FROM THE LIST.

SO OF THE PROPOSED NEW PROJECTS, THERE ARE 2.1 MILLION IN FY 23 FOR SEVEN PROJECTS, AND THEN SEVEN OF ADDITIONAL PROJECTS ARE PROGRAMED FOR FUTURE FUNDING.

PROPOSED NEW PROJECTS FOR THE FY 23 FUNDING REQUEST ARE LISTED THERE.

NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

AND THEN THE PROPOSED NEW PROJECTS FOR FY 23.

EXCUSE ME. WITH FUTURE FUNDING ARE THESE AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY INCLUDE A VILLAGE DECORATIVE LIGHTING THAT COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED . FOR REVENUES, WE HAVE FY 23 PROJECTED REVENUES OF 59.5 MILLION, OF WHICH THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE IS FROM DEVELOPER FEES.

AND WE ALSO HAVE 23% FROM OTHER AGENCIES AND UTILITY REPLACEMENT TRANSFERS AS WELL.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF THE CIP AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT OR IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO GO INTO THE SDTIP.

SPEAKERS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS MAYOR.

OK CITY ATTORNEY, THEN I SHOULD STEP DOWN NOW AND WE'LL DISCUSS THE VILLAGE.

YES, YOU CAN SIT DOWN.

THEY CAN DISCUSS THE WHETHER TO PAUSE OR DELAY THOSE FIVE PROJECTS THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING, AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEM.

SO THEY'RE JUST DISCUSSING THE BARRIO AND THE LIGHTING AND THE VILLAGE, CORRECT? WELL, THE FIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING ASKED TO BE PAUSED OR DELAYED SO THAT THE OTHER ONES CAN BE ACCELERATED.

OKAY. YEAH. MR. BLACKBURN. MARY ASKED ABOUT SPEAKERS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THERE'S NO SPEAKERS.

QUESTIONS? DR.

BHAT-PATEL. YES, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT FAST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE AT A LATE HOUR.

JUST QUICKLY, I KNOW WHEN WE ACCELERATED SOME OF THE PROJECTS.

JUST CURIOUS WHICH ONES WE DECIDED TO LIKE, HOW WE DECIDED TO DECELERATE SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS JUST SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS? YES, MA'AM. SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE WHOLE PORTFOLIO, IF YOU WILL, AND THE ONES THAT WERE IMPACTED WERE IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE ACCELERATED.

SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE SKILL SETS OF WHAT WAS NEEDED BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NOT WANT SOMEONE IN UTILITIES TO BE WORKING UNDER TRANSPORTATION.

WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT WHERE THE PARTICULAR PROJECTS ARE IN THE QUEUE AND DETERMINE WHAT IS THE RISK, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH REGARDS TO LOSING SOME GRANT FUNDING OR WHERE WE WERE AT IN THAT PARTICULAR PHASE OF THE PROJECT.

AND AS WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THERE WERE SOME PROJECTS THAT JUST STARTED DROPPING OUT.

AND THEN AS A RESULT OF THAT, THAT WAS HOW THE PROPOSED PROJECTS TO BE DELAYED CAME TO BE.

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THANK YOU. AND JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, BECAUSE I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN WITH THAT BEING DECELERATED.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE THE PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE LISTED, BUT THAT OBVIOUSLY IMPACTS THE TIMELINE FOR ANYTHING THAT COMES SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS THESE ARE THE FIRST FIVE OR SIX THAT WOULD BE IN THAT FIRST PHASE.

SO ANYTHING AFTER THAT WOULD ALSO BE THEN DELAYED BY A YEAR I'M ASSUMING.

WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT AND WHERE IT'S AT.

AND SO TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

BUT THAT IS A A SAFE GUESS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE PROJECT.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

AND WITH THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS COMPLETE STREETS AND THAT WOULD INCORPORATE LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, ANY OF THE COMPLETE STREETS PROJECTS THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME THAT ARE SEGMENTED OUT, BUT ANY OF THE OTHERS THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOLISTICALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO IN ESSENCE, PRETTY MUCH MOST OF OUR PROJECTS THAT INVOLVE THE ROADWAY TO INTEGRATE PORTIONS OF COMPLETE STREETS, WE TRY TO LOOK AT IT EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT IDENTIFY THEM AS COMPLETE STREETS.

SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO TRY TO DO ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE PROJECTS.

SO THE ONES SPECIFICALLY THAT WERE IDENTIFIED ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED.

AND WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE ALL OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE QUEUE, MOVING THEM ALONG AS WELL.

OKAY. YEAH, I JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN, ESPECIALLY, LIKE I SAID, WITH REGARDS TO THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ACT ON.

I'M JUST ADDING A SMALL COMMENT IN THAT IF I DON'T KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES.

BUT FOR ME, I WAS JUST CURIOUS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS NOW, MAYBE AFTER EVERYONE'S SPOKEN, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO RESHUFFLE THAT.

SO IT'S NOT ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK RIGHT NOW.

BUT IF NOT, I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I KNOW OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT SHIFTING PRIORITIES AND WE'VE ASKED FOR THESE TO BE ACCELERATED.

BUT I KNOW THAT THIS ACTUALLY WOULD IMPACT OUR ENTIRE CITY.

THE ONES THAT ARE BEING ACCELERATED OR SPECIFICALLY IN RD ONE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE ABILITY TO SEE THOSE ACCELERATED SOME SORT OF OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN EACH OF OUR DISTRICTS.

SO THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTION? I DON'T GET TO SEE IT. IT'S ALL THE WAY OVER THERE.

MS. ACOSTA.

YES, THANK YOU. I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU COULDN'T SEE THE REQUEST TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL BECAUSE I HAVE I HAD THE EXACT SAME WORDS IN MY HEAD.

I HAVE HEARTBURN OVER REMOVING SUSTAINABILITY, A SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, AND PUSHING IT BACK FOR A YEAR.

I HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM WITH IT.

WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PRIORITIZATION PROCESS, IF YOU ALL RECALL, BECAUSE MANY OF YOU WERE THERE AND CERTAINLY THE WHOLE COUNCIL WAS THERE, WE STARTED WITH SOME PROJECTS THAT WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND WE WENT THROUGH THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO BECAUSE THE MAYOR HAD TO RECUSE HIMSELF.

SO WE STARTED WITH THOSE AND WE ALL SAID, YES, WE LIKE THOSE.

AND I REMEMBER I MADE A COMMENT AT THE TIME, YOU MAY REMEMBER THE EXCHANGE THAT WE HAD WHERE I SAID, IT'S NOT THAT I'M PRIORITIZING THESE OVER OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CITY, IT'S JUST THAT THIS IS THE ORDER IN WHICH WE'RE TAKING THEM.

AND WHEN WE GET TO THE OTHER ONES, I'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE TOO.

SOMEHOW. IT SO HAPPENED THAT WE RUSH THROUGH A BUNCH OF THE OTHER ONES.

SO IF WE HAD DONE THE PROCESS DIFFERENTLY AND WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO WEIGH A SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN AGAINST SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES THAT WE PRIORITIZED, I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

IT GOES ACROSS THE CITY.

IT IS IT AFFECTS SUSTAINABILITY.

IT AFFECTS MOBILITY, REDUCES GREENHOUSE GASES.

IT HELPS THE ENVIRONMENT.

IT ALLOWS US TO GET OUT OF OUR CARS AND WALK AND BIKE AND USE OTHER MOBILITY OPTIONS.

SO I HAVE A REAL ISSUE AND I KNOW MY COMMUNITY DOES, TOO.

WE TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS ONE OF OUR MAIN PRIORITIES FOR DISTRICT FOUR, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE CONNECTING OUR ENTIRE CITY WITH MULTIMODAL OPTIONS FOR TRANSPORTATION.

SO IT IS IT'S A REAL ISSUE.

SO I THINK THE QUESTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER BHAT-PATEL ASKED TOWARDS THE END, I WOULD STRENGTHEN THAT AND SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THAT BACK SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DELAY IT FOR A YEAR? BECAUSE WHEN WE DELAY, IT BECOMES MORE EXPENSIVE AND THEN IT PUSHES BACK OTHER PROJECTS THAT RELY ON THOSE.

AND MAYBE IT'S JUST THAT I'M MAYBE I NEED MORE EXPLANATION ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE CALLED OUT OF THAT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE PURSUING.

MAYBE THERE'S MORE LIGHT THAT COULD BE SHED ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

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BUT RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TO PUSH BACK SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN FOR A YEAR IN FAVOR OF ONLY FOUR OR FIVE PROJECTS IN DISTRICT ONE WHEN SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY.

AND IT'S PART OF OUR CONCEPT FOR SUSTAINABILITY AND MOBILITY.

YES, MA'AM. SO DURING THE CIP WORKSHOP AND AS YOU DESCRIBED, IT WAS A MATTER OF TIMING WITH REGARDS TO THE MAYOR'S RECUSAL, AND THAT WAS WHY WE ADDRESSED THOSE ITEMS FIRST.

AND IT WASN'T THAT THEY WERE A PRIORITY.

IT WAS JUST THAT THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT WE HAD AT FIRST.

AND CITY COUNCIL VOTED ON IT.

AND AT THAT TIME, I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER AND I HAD BOTH SHARED THAT WHEN WE ACCELERATE A PROJECT, THERE IS AN IMPACT.

SO IT'S EITHER WE GET ADDITIONAL STAFFING AND RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD OR OTHER PROJECTS WILL SLIDE TO THE RIGHT AND WILL SLOW DOWN AND PERHAPS BE DELAYED.

AND SO BECAUSE THOSE HAD BEEN RECOMMENDED OR APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR US TO COME BACK NOW DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS TO DESCRIBE WHAT THE IMPACTS WOULD BE, BECAUSE AT THAT TIME WE DID NOT KNOW AND DID NOT HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DESCRIBE WHAT THE IMPACTS WOULD BE. WE ARE NOW PRESENTING THAT AS THESE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

AND THIS IS THE THE IMPACT OF WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER WHAT CITY COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED.

YOU STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED INITIALLY FOR THE CIP WORKSHOP WAS WHAT STAFF WAS DOING AND TARGETING TOWARDS.

HOWEVER, UNLESS THERE ARE EITHER ADDITIONAL RESOURCES PROVIDED FROM A STAFFING PERSPECTIVE OR OTHER PROJECTS ARE PROPOSED FOR INCLUSION OR NOT, THEN THAT'S THAT IS WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THE WORKSHOP.

OKAY. AND THEN RELATED TO THAT, WAS THERE CONVERSATION OR HAS THERE YET BEEN CONSIDERATION OF MAYBE INCLUDING PART OF LIKE HOW MUCH OF SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY? BECAUSE I SAW IN SOME OF THE SLIDES I SAW MERGING IT GOT A LITTLE CONFUSING THERE.

LIKE SOME THINGS WERE CALLED OUT AND SOME THINGS WERE PUSHED TOGETHER.

ARE WE PURSUING LIKE A TRANCHE OF THOSE RIGHT NOW? SO SO THERE ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITHIN THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THERE WERE PROJECTS THAT WERE INCLUDED AND WE'RE PLANNING ON ROLLING THEM OUT AND AND INCLUDING THEM IN THE FUTURE AND OTHER SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

THE ONES THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED THAT WERE THERE FOR THOSE FIVE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR DELAYING BY A YEAR.

SO THERE ARE, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WITH COMPLETE STREETS, EVEN THOUGH VALLEY MAGNOLIA IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS ALSO IDENTIFIED WITH REGARDS TO THAT. THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE DO HAVE THAT ARE IN PROGRESS THAT WILL CONTINUE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, EL CAMINO REAL WIDENING AS WE DO ANY OF THE WIDENING FROM [INAUDIBLE] TO LA COSTA AVENUE, THAT'S ALL GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

WHEN WE DO THE CONSTRUCTION, WE INTEGRATE COMPLETE STREETS INTO THAT EFFORT.

SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BECAUSE OF WHETHER IT'S GRANT FUNDING OR WHERE IT'S AT IN THE PARTICULAR PHASE OF DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION.

SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS THAT WE'RE DELAYING SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION BY A YEAR, BUT MAYBE YOU COULD PULL UP THAT SLIDE THAT HAS THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING DELAYED.

BECAUSE WHAT I THINK WHAT I JUST HEARD FROM YOU IS THAT ONLY THOSE ONES ARE THE ONES.

THOSE ONES ARE WITHIN SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY.

YES, MA'AM. YEAH.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

IS THAT OKAY? YEAH. YEAH.

AND IF SO.

OH, AND I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD TO THAT.

I KNOW ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AROUND SOME AROUND THE SAME THING WAS THAT IT WOULD ALSO THEN DELAY ANYTHING AFTER.

SO I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE THESE FIVE AND THEN ANYTHING AFTER THAT HAS BEEN PLANNED, BUT ANYTHING CURRENTLY IN PROCESS WILL NOT BE DELAYED.

I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION IS LIKE IF THERE ARE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE WORKS, THOSE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

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BUT THE FIVE THAT ARE LISTED IN ANYTHING AFTER WOULD THEN BE DELAYED.

YES, MA'AM. AND SO SO PART OF IT IS WE HAVE THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE, OR TWO CONCRETE SIDEWALK PROGRAMS THAT ARE PROGRAMS IN WHICH THERE ARE SOME SMALLER PROJECTS THAT ARE INTEGRATED IN EVERY YEAR WE COME AND PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE JUST COMPLETED, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE PICTURE OF THE CONCRETE REPAIR WHERE STAFF WERE WORKING THERE IN DISTRICT FOUR TO COMPLETE THAT SIDEWALK.

SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET FOR THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, BUT WE ARE DOING IT AS PART OF THIS FISCAL YEAR CIP BUDGET.

THERE ARE FIVE PROJECTS AND THAT WERE DEFINED AND I'M SORRY, THAT ACTUALLY DID NOT SHOW.

HERE YOU GO. I THINK THIS IS THE ONE THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR THAT SAYS THAT THE CANYON ROAD, PASEO DEL NORTE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THERE THERE ARE SOME SOME BIKE FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DELAYED IN SOME SOME RE STRIPING AS WELL AS AT JEFFERSON STREET, ACOSTA AVENUE, LESS FLORES AND TAMARACK.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THAT WERE IDENTIFIED FOR THE SNMP PROGRAM TO TO GET IT GOING.

OKAY. SO THE ENTIRE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION IS NOT DELAYED.

IT'S ONLY THE BATCH OF FIVE PROJECTS.

YES, MA'AM. AND THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE, MEH.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR LIKE WHAT ARE WE DELAYING SO THAT WE KNOW AND IS THEY ONLY BY A YEAR OR ARE WE GOING TO COME ARE WE GOING TO HEAR LATER THAT IT WAS DELAYED BY A COUPLE OF YEARS? I'D LIKE CLARITY AND CONFIRMATION.

YEAH. SO SO ONE NEXT YEAR, LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW, WE WILL BE PRESENTING THE CIP BUDGET AGAIN.

AND SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM WITH THE S&P, WE WILL BE EXPLAINING THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE WILL BE PRESENTING AS PART OF THE SMP PROGRAM. AND SO THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED HERE ARE THE SPECIFIC FIVE PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.

SO YES.

AND WHAT ABOUT SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE ARE WITHIN SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

ARE ANY OF THOSE BEING DELAYED? NO, MA'AM. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, COUNCILMEMBER BHAT-PATEL, IF THERE WERE SOME PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE DELAYED, THAT COULD BE DELAYED.

WE WERE SPECIFICALLY TRYING NOT TO INCLUDE A SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING INTO IT.

BUT THAT IS A POTENTIAL THAT COULD BE DELAYED IF SO DIRECTED.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, I DON'T LIKE HOW THE PRIORITIZATION TOOK PLACE BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE PRIORITIZING THOSE FOUR OR FIVE PROJECTS IN THE VILLAGE WHEN REALLY IT WAS JUST THE ORDER IN WHICH WE TOOK THE ITEMS THAT THEY CAME FIRST AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE PRIORITIZED.

AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE JUST GOT KIND OF RUSHED AND JUMBLED AND GIVEN TO STAFF TO PRIORITIZE.

SO I DON'T LOVE HOW THAT PROJECT, HOW THAT PRIORITIZATION WORKED OUT BECAUSE IT DID PRIORITIZE THIS, WHICH IS MY TOP PRIORITY, SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY. SO, YOU KNOW, I GET IT AND I'M I'M TRYING TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND TRYING TO TRYING TO COMPROMISE, BUT THOSE ARE MY FEELINGS. THANKS, MR. NORBY. YOUR BRIEF QUESTIONS, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. SO I KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF JASON HABER IS IN THE HOUSE.

MR. HABER IS IN THE HOUSE OR IF HE'S NOT HERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW.

I KNOW. SO THE FIVE THE FIVE PROJECTS IN THE VILLAGE BARRIO AREA THAT ARE KIND OF LUMPED TOGETHER AND HAVE BEEN MOVED FORWARD ARE REALLY MODEST PROJECTS IN TERMS OF DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE I THINK IS 12 MILLION FOR THE VILLAGE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND THE REST ARE 500,000 OR A MILLION OR 2 MILLION FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND THEY'RE PRETTY MODEST THE AS COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER LARGER PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

I WOULD SAY THE BARRIO AND VILLAGE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN.

I WOULD SAY THAT THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DELAYED FOR OVER A DECADE, WANTED FOR OVER A DECADE.

AND I RECENTLY ASKED MR. HABER, WHAT'S IN THE HOUSES THAT I KNOW THAT MR. HABER PRESENTED A MENU OF PROJECTS TO CONGRESSMAN LEVIN FOR HIS CONSIDERATION FOR FUNDING.

AND I WAS PERSONALLY, PERSONALLY HOPEFUL THAT A FEDERAL CONGRESSMAN WOULD LAY A LARGE NUMBER OUT FOR OUR TRENCH PROJECT.

THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

AND SO KNOW I KNOW THAT PROBABLY ALL OF THESE PROJECTS OR MOST OF THESE PROJECTS WERE PRESENTED TO CONGRESSMAN LEVIN FOR AND CONGRESSMAN LEVIN AND HIS OFFICE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS AND DECIDED TO GIVE US OR PROVIDE US A $5 MILLION GRANT FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND FOR PEDESTRIAN

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BARRIO TRAFFIC CALMING AND PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING.

AND THAT 5 MILLION COMPARED TO I JUST REMEMBER THE SLIDE WHERE WE HAD BUDGETED AMOUNT AND THE AMOUNT ALREADY SET ASIDE AND IT REALLY PUT US OVER THE TOP.

AND THE PROJECTS ARE FULLY FUNDED, LOOSELY SPEAKING AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND CONSTRUCT THEM.

SO IT DOESN'T IT IS YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE SITTING HERE IF HE PUT THIS MONEY TOWARDS ANOTHER PROJECT, HIS DECISION TO PUT TOWARDS ANOTHER PROJECT, I WOULD WANT TO MOVE THAT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF FEDERAL GRANT MONEY TO APPLY TO THAT PROJECT.

I'M LEERY OF UNZIPPING THE WORK THAT COUNCIL DID AT A GOAL SETTING SESSION GOING THROUGH IT.

THE ONE HERE IN TERMS OF IMPACTS TO OTHER PROJECTS THAT GIVES ME HEARTBURN IS A SUSTAINABLE, SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT ARE STATED.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A SUBSET OF THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLANS, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT THE PROJECTS ARE MODEST AND THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AND THEY DO TAKE STAFF TIME.

BUT SO I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IS IT FAIR TO SAY, WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON THESE PROJECTS AS STAFF THAT WE HAVE TO DELAY ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS? OR IS THERE SOME OTHER REASON GOING ON WHY THESE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE DELAYED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BARRIO VILLAGE PROJECTS? SO THE THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION IS NOT AFFECTED BY ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT'S STAFF CAPACITY.

AND REALLY LOOKING AT FOCUSING THE EFFORTS ISN'T EVEN ABOUT THE FUNDING AS YOU JUST ADDRESSED WITH THE VILLAGE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND BARRIO LIGHTING WITH REPRESENTATIVE LEVIN'S FUNDING OF THE $5 MILLION IT IS, IT DOES TAKE QUITE A BIT OF EFFORT WITH REGARDS TO GETTING THE PROJECTS THROUGH TO COMPLETION.

SO THERE IS A LOT OF EFFORT THAT THAT IS IMPACTED WHEN WE SHUFFLE THINGS AROUND AND ACCELERATE ANY OF THE PROJECTS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. AND THAT'S WHAT STAFF TAKES A LOOK AT.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU SAID IS, IS IT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE VILLAGE BARRIO THAT THESE ARE BEING PROPOSED? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE TERRAMAR AREA COASTAL IMPROVEMENTS, THAT HAS CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO SEPARATING THE WATER AND THE UTILITIES PORTION THAT HAS TO GET DONE PERIOD BEFORE WE WOULD GO FORWARD WITH A ROADWAY.

SO THERE IS A DELAY TO THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE STILL GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PORTION OF THE UTILITIES.

AND THEN AFTER THAT'S COMPLETED, THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT WHERE THERE'S UTILITIES UNDERGROUNDING THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH SDG&E AND AT&T ON WHAT THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS ARE BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGES OF SOMETIMES WORKING WITH OTHER UTILITIES WHERE THEIR SCHEDULE MIGHT NOT ALIGN WITH OURS.

THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THERE WOULD BE A DELAY TO THE TERRAMAR AREA COASTAL IMPROVEMENTS ROADWAY PORTION AS WELL.

SO WE'RE SAYING THAT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN BY EASING UP AND REDISTRIBUTING STAFF TO TO WORK ON OTHER PROJECTS WOULD THEN NOT NECESSARILY DIRECTLY IMPACT THAT, BUT THAT MAY END UP RESULTING BECAUSE OF THOSE OTHER CHALLENGES.

SO FOR ME AND FOR MY 20%, SO THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER.

AND THE ANSWER IS SOMEWHAT BUT NOT EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.

SO IT DOES WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT DONE.

IT DOES TAKE STAFF TIME, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES INVOLVED ON SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE DELAYED ANYWAYS.

SO YEAH, POTENTIALLY.

SO FOR MY 20%, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THOSE PROJECTS FORWARD AND THEN THE PROJECTS DELAYED.

I'D LIKE TO REMOVE THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION FROM THAT LIST AND I'D LIKE STAFF TO COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT IT NEEDS.

TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AND NOT DELAY IT FOR A YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE.

I THINK THAT WE'RE DOING WELL IN TERMS OF OUR OUR THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

I THINK THAT WE'RE DOING WELL WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, SET ASIDE, IF YOU WILL, IN OUR BUDGETS.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN'T DELAY THAT PROJECT, AND I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT COST US.

IS THE STAFF PERSON, IS IT A CONSULTANT? WHAT'S THE NUMBER TO NOT DELAY THAT PROJECT? OR IS THERE A PORTION OF IT THAT WE CAN COMPLETE BUT OTHERS JUST AREN'T READY TO GO IN TERMS OF SOME OTHER REASON BESIDE OUR STAFF TIME.

BUT THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT.

SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH REGARDS TO LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, IS THE IMPACT TO OTHER PROJECTS.

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SO ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE CARLSBAD, TAMARACK INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, WHICH HAS BEEN DELAYED AND WHICH DOES HAVE GRANT FUNDING THAT WE ARE WORKING, THAT WE WENT TO SANDAG AS I TALK AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND GOT THEIR APPROVAL FOR THE SECOND EXTENSION.

SO THAT ONE WE DO NOT WISH TO.

HOWEVER, FROM A STAFFING CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE HAD SERIOUSLY TAKEN A LOOK AT, BUT THEN TOOK IT OFF AND WEIGHED IT, SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, A DELAY AND A SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE FIVE SMALLER PROJECTS, THAT WAS WHERE THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS.

SO WE STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH THAT.

I THINK JUST KEEPING IT A VERY HIGH LEVEL IN TERMS OF PROJECTS WE'RE MOVING AND PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DELAYING.

I'D LIKE TO REMOVE THAT FROM PROJECT WE'RE DELAYING AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

SO I REALIZE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME OF IT'S DELAYED BECAUSE OF A SANDAG ISSUE OR CONSTRUCTION ISSUE OR A TIMING ISSUE OR UTILITY ISSUE.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT TAKES FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

AND IF IT'S EXTRA STAFF, IF IT'S EXTRA CONSULTANTS.

SO. BECAUSE BECAUSE STAFF HAS ALREADY PRESENTED ON THE STAFFING THAT WAS THAT IS NEEDED AS PART OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET ON MAY 24TH.

AND THAT IS WHAT IS PROPOSED AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED NEXT WEEK AS PART OF THE BUDGET ADOPTION.

IF WE WERE TO COME BACK NEXT WEEK, WHICH WE HAD INTENDED FOR THE CIP BUDGET AND SDTIP TO ALSO BE DISCUSSED AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE TO PROPOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, STAFFING AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE AT BUDGET TIME.

BUT A MID-YEAR BUDGET REVIEW, YOU KNOW, A PROJECT THAT'S PROPOSED TWO OR THREE MONTHS INTO IT, I WOULDN'T EXPECT IT TO BE ALL INCORPORATED AND PUT IN A BOW IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO FOR A BUDGET PRESENTATION.

BUT I THINK I'VE EXPRESSED MY COMMENTS.

I'M NOT HAPPY WITH IT BEING DELAYED EITHER.

AND I, I DON'T I CAN'T SIT HERE AND THINK THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE SUFFICIENT TO DELAY IT.

THE ONES IN THE BARRIO AND VILLAGE, BOTH COSTS, AS WELL AS THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S INVOLVED.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY IT AND WE'D LIKE TO GET THEM ALL DONE ON TIME, NOT DELAY ANY, BUT YOU KNOW, IF FOUR OF THEM ARE DELAYED, BUT THIS ONE'S MOST IMPORTANT, LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT DONE AND NOT DELAY IT.

I HEARD YOU PAUSE, SAY, CAN'T DO EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.

IF YOU WANT THIS DONE, THEN THAT GETS DELAYED.

AND THAT'S JUST PART OF LIFE, SIR.

SO THE REQUEST THAT'S BEING MADE IS TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU SUGGESTED BE PAUSED.

SO WHAT COUNCIL GAVE YOU CAN BE DONE FIRST.

SO IF WE GIVE YOU MORE THAN YOU CAN HANDLE THAT, THAT'S NOT REASONABLE.

SO DO YOU.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REPLACED OR DO WE JUST GO BACK TO WHAT WE WERE? TAKE OFF THE THINGS THAT WERE PRIORITIZED TO BE ABLE TO DO THE SUSTAINABLE STREETS.

LET ME JUMP IN HERE AND IF I CAN THANK YOU.

CLEARLY, RECOGNIZING WHERE THE THE COUNCIL'S FEELINGS ARE WITH REGARD TO THIS STAFF NEEDS TO GET SOME GUIDANCE SO THAT THEY CAN FINALIZE THE CIP FOR NEXT WEEK.

CLEARLY, THERE IS NOT ANY CONCERN FOR THE OTHER ITEMS LISTED IN OUTSIDE OF THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

WE CERTAINLY NEED TO GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL ON THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. AND IF IT'S IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DIRECT STAFF TO PRESERVE THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN AND REMOVE IT FROM THIS THESE ITEMS FROM THIS LIST AND TELL STAFF TO GO FIGURE IT OUT.

THAT'S CERTAINLY YOUR PURVIEW TO DO THAT.

AND IT WILL BE ON US TO THEN HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVES OR IDEAS TO HELP MAKE THIS WORK AS WE PREPARE FOR NEXT WEEK.

NOW WE ONLY HAVE A DAY OR TWO TO DO IT, BUT CLEARLY THE THIS IS GIVING MORE THAN JUST HEARTBURN, I THINK, TO THE FOUR OF YOU.

AND I'D LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO HELP MOVE THIS ALL ALONG.

SO I THINK WHAT WE MAY WANT TO DO, IF WE CAN, CITY ATTORNEY, IS GET THE GREEN LIGHT ON THE OTHER ITEMS FIRST.

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AND THEN TAKE THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN ITEM.

IS THAT HOW WE CAN DO IT? YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IT IN IN ONE MOTION.

LIKE KEEP THAT FOREGOING AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER COME BACK ON THE SUSTAINABLE.

[CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]

IF I MAY TRY A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DELAYING THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, WE REMOVE THAT FROM IMPACTS TO THOSE PROJECTS.

THE OTHER FOUR STAY.

[CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS]

SECOND.

AND I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT. I'M GOING TO VOTE NO BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO PERFORM MIRACLES.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO OUR STAFF TO TELL THEM TO DO EVERYTHING AND DO IT NOW.

I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE EXAGGERATION, BUT WE GAVE THEM MARCHING ORDERS TO PUT CERTAIN THINGS AHEAD OF OTHERS.

AND NOW WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, NOW BRING THE OTHER THINGS.

AT LEAST ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WHICH IS MAJOR BACK AND I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THEM MORE THAN WHAT THEIR CAPACITY.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE STAFF'S FEEDBACK OF WHAT THEY CAN DO IN A YEAR AND REASONS STATED WHY AND I'M SAYING THAT IF YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT IN TWO DAYS OR NEXT WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING, BUT IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES NEEDED THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, THAT THEY CAN BRING THAT BACK AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

AND IF THEY'RE REASONABLE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT REASONABLE, WE CAN'T.

BUT IT IS ONE THAT I WANT TO GET DONE.

AND I JUST LOOK AT THE LIST OF THESE PROJECTS AND WHAT THEY COST AND HOW MASSIVE THEY ARE AND WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, LONG HELD IN THE BARRIO AND MONIES RECEIVED FOR THOSE PROJECTS. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD FASTER AND NOT DELAY THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLANS.

OKAY. DR. BHAT-PATEL, I SEE YOUR HAND UP.

YES, THANK YOU.

AND I MIGHT TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH IN TERMS OF HOW THIS MIGHT POTENTIALLY BE SUBSTITUTED.

I KNOW I HEARD MS..

GOMEZ MENTIONED OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS ONE AMONG OTHERS THAT WAS CONSIDERED.

AND SO MAYBE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS, I TO AGREE, IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE IT BEFORE NEXT WEEK, THAT'S FINE.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT THE TIMELINE HAS TO BE.

SO BUT I DO APPRECIATE I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A LOT AND YOU'VE HAD TO RUN WITH WHAT DIRECTION YOU WERE GIVEN.

I JUST THINK THAT THIS ONE IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW ALL OF US HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY AROUND AND SO MUCH THAT WE FEEL INVESTED IN.

SO I HATE TO MAKE YOU HAVE TO DO IT, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WE ALL ARE VERY MUCH INVESTED IN.

SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE VOTING YES.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CALL FOR THE QUESTION, PLEASE.

IT PASSES 3 TO 1.

OK TO INVITE THE MAYOR BACK.

CALENDAR. THANK YOU, MS..

GOMEZ. YES, I WILL BE DOING A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR ABOUT 2 MINUTES.

OKAY. I'VE GOT TO.

THERE WE GO. OKAY.

HERE'S A SUMMARY OF THIS YEAR'S SDTIP PROGRAM.

THERE ARE 33 PROJECTS IN THE PROGRAM.

THE PROGRAM PROPOSES CONTINUING ONGOING PROJECTS, STARTING NINE NEW PROJECTS, CANCELING TWO UNNEEDED PROJECTS, AND STARTING SOME PROJECTS IN A FUTURE FISCAL YEAR.

THE TOTAL ESTIMATED PROJECT COST OF THE PROGRAM ARE 27.34 MILLION.

THIS INCLUDES THE REQUESTED FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2223.

THE ESTIMATED FUNDING FOR THE FOLLOWING FOUR YEARS AND THE AMOUNT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED IN PRIOR YEARS.

YOU WILL NOTE HERE ON THE PIE CHART THAT THE PROJECTS ARE CATEGORIZED INTO THE FIVE GOALS IDENTIFIED IN CONNECTED CARLSBAD, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF 2020 AS A ROADMAP TO INCLUSIVE CITY INNOVATION.

FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

THERE ARE 22 PROJECTS WITH 3.94 MILLION OF FUNDING REQUESTS.

OF THESE 22 PROJECTS, NINE OF THEM ARE PROPOSED NEW PROJECTS WITH THE $739,000 REQUEST.

11 ARE ONGOING PROJECTS WITH 3.5 MILLION OF FUNDING REQUESTS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE TWO CANCELED PROJECTS THAT ARE RETURNING 150,000.

HERE ARE THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE SDTIP.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PIE CHART, THE MAJOR FUNDING SOURCE IS OUR TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENT CAPITAL FUND WITH 20 MILLION OR 73% COMING FROM THIS FUND.

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AND THEN WE HAVE THE IT REPLACEMENT FUND THAT REPLACES IT ASSETS AND THE UTILITIES ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT FUND UTILITIES PROJECTS.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT $20 MILLION IN FUNDS ARE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

10.9 MILLION WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED IN PRIOR YEARS.

THIS YEAR, THE TOTAL FUNDING REQUEST FROM THE FUND IS ROUGHLY $3 MILLION, WITH 6.1 MILLION PROJECTED FUNDS NEEDING NEEDED IN FISCAL YEARS.

24 THROUGH 27.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT THE TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENT FUND BALANCE.

IT ALSO SHOWS THE PROJECTED TRANSFERS INTO THE FUND, ACCORDING TO COUNCIL POLICY 91 AND THE FINANCIAL FORECAST THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN MAY OF THIS YEAR WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRANSFERS INTO THE FUND AND THE INTEREST REVENUE, WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO COVER OUR CURRENTLY ESTIMATED DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION EFFORTS.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO ACCEPT THE REPORT, PROVIDE ANY DIRECTION TO STAFF ON ANY CHANGES DESIRED.

AND A PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN SET FOR JUNE 14.

QUESTIONS. MOTION.

IT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD SO QUICKLY.

I DON'T. DOES THIS NEED A MOTION? THIS IS JUST AN ACCEPTED PRESENTATION.

I ACCEPT PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE NO CHANGES.

ONLY IF YOU WANT CHANGES.

OKAY. ANYBODY WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING? OKAY. FINAL COMMENTS, MR. NORBY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BEST PRODUCTION. THANK YOU TO STAFF AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.

NO FINAL COMMENTS.

THANKS. YES, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR A GREAT, GREAT COUNCIL MEETING.

VERY FULL AND BUSY AND PRODUCTIVE.

TODAY WAS ELECTION DAY, FOR PRIMARIES, I HOPE EVERYONE VOTED.

DON'T FORGET YOUR VOICE IS YOUR VOTE.

YOUR VOTE IS YOUR VOICE.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS COMING UP.

THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY POLICY COMMITTEE MEETS THIS FRIDAY, AND I ATTEND THAT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, ALONG WITH JAIME WOOD, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DIRECTOR.

I DON'T KNOW HIS EXACT TITLE, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND WE WILL BOTH BE CONNECTING WITH OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR TO TALK ABOUT OUR POLICY POSITIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY BEFORE FRIDAY'S MEETING.

AND THEN ON MONDAY, I'VE GOT THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY DIVISION MEETING, AND I HEARD THAT MY COLLEAGUE WON'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND ON MONDAY.

SO I'VE GOT THIS.

I'LL BE THERE AND REPRESENTING THE CITY AT THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY DIVISION MEETING OF THE LEAGUE.

THAT'S IT. THANKS, DOCTOR.

I, TOO, HAVE A POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES ON THURSDAY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNICATIONS AND PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH I'M THE VICE CHAIR FOR, SO I'LL BE ATTENDING THAT. I HAVE OFFICE HOURS TOMORROW.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, I KNOW WE HAVE I HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING NEXT WEEK AND HAD ANOTHER ONE LAST WEEK AS WELL FOR SANDAG TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE REPRESENTING NTCD ON THAT BOARD. THAT'S IT.

THANKS. MR. BLACKBURN. OUR ACTING CITY MANAGER, MR. PATNOE, GAVE US THAT TEN MINUTE SPEECH, IF YOU WOULD.

YOU CAN MAKE IT LONG, MARK.

I'LL JUST SAY THANKS STAFF FOR THE DIRECTION TODAY OR EXCUSE ME, THANKS COUNCIL FOR DIRECTION TODAY AND THEN TO ALSO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR EFFORTS FOR A LOT OF ITEMS. A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THIS AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS.

AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MISS MCMAHON.

NOTHING FOR ME. THANK YOU, CITY CLERK.

NOTHING, THANK YOU. AND I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT OUT WHERE THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT AT ANYTHING BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT TUESDAY.

SO WITH THAT, WE STAND ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.