Jun 14, 2022 City Council Meeting

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CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

CITY COUNCIL IS SERVING AS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL.

THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE PUBLIC FINANCING AUTHORITY, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

PUBLIC HEARING ITEM SEVEN.

CITY COUNCIL IS ALSO SERVING AS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL, THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, THE PUBLIC FINANCING AUTHORITY, THE CARLSBAD PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION AND THE CARLSBAD INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY ON DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER.

REPORT ITEM NUMBER NINE.

SO WITH THAT, IF WE COULD ALL PLEASE RISE.

AND KEITH, PLEASE, PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OK MINUTES.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING HELD MAY 17TH.

MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING HELD MAY 23RD MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES RECITED BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MINUTES PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO PRESENTATION AND RECOGNITION OF CARLSBAD OLYMPIANS TESSA MAUDE AND MR.

[PRESENTATIONS]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO RECOGNIZE TESSA MAUDE THIS EVENING.

AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.

THERE YOU ARE. SO I HAVE A FEW WORDS TO SAY BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

IT'S NO SECRET THAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN CARLSBAD ARE TRULY EXTRAORDINARY.

WHAT MIGHT BE A SURPRISE IS THAT WE SEEM TO HAVE OUR FAIR SHARE OF WINTER OLYMPIANS IN OUR MIDST.

TESSA WAS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD WHEN SHE LEARNED TO SKI.

BY THE WAY, THAT HAPPENS A LOT IN THE NORDIC COUNTRIES.

SO SHE SWITCHED OVER TO SNOWBOARDING TWO YEARS LATER AT THE AGE OF FOUR.

FAST FORWARD TO 2022 AND TESSA WAS ON HER WAY TO BEIJING AS PART OF A 26 MEMBER U.S.

SNOWBOARDING TEAM, WHICH, BY THE WAY, WAS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE STRONGEST TEAMS EVER WITH MULTIPLE DEFENDING GOLD MEDALISTS ON THE ROSTER, INCLUDING ANOTHER VERY FAMOUS SNOWBOARDER FROM CARLSBAD.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF US COULD POINT TO A DECISION MADE AT FOUR YEARS OLD THAT WOULD END UP LEADING TO THIS KIND OF SUCCESS AT 18.

TESSA HOLDS TESSA HELD HER OWN AT HER FIRST OLYMPICS, PLACING 16TH IN THE HALFPIPE.

THIS COMES AFTER PLACING SECOND IN THE JUNIOR WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN 2019, THIRD IN THE EUROPA CUP IN SWITZERLAND, AND LANDING FIVE PODIUM FINISHES IN THE NORM CUP IN 2018 AND 2019.

OFF THE SLOPES, TESSA GAINED A NEW FOLLOWING DURING HER TIME IN BEIJING, THANKS TO HER POPULAR TIK TOK VIDEOS THAT GAVE THE FOLLOWERS A BEHIND THE SCENES LOOK AT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO COMPETE IN THE OLYMPICS.

I UNDERSTAND ONE OF YOUR MOST POPULAR WAS YOUR REVIEW OF YOUR SLEEPING QUARTERS, WHICH DID NOT HAVE THE FAMOUS CARDBOARD BEDS THAT WE'VE ALL HEARD ABOUT AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT. IN FACT, I THINK YOU WERE GIVEN A SMART BED AND EVEN SLEPT ON A ZERO GRAVITY SETTING ONE NIGHT.

TESSA, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT YOU WITH A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION.

WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU AND CAN'T WAIT TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH YOU AND YOUR CAREER.

TESSA, THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING.

AND PLEASE SAY A FEW WORDS IF YOU'D LIKE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR ALWAYS SUPPORTING ME INTO MY NEIGHBORHOODS OF MIRAMAR AND RANCHO CARILLO.

ALL MY NEIGHBORS ARE SO SUPPORTIVE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS TO MY PARENTS, MY FAMILY MEMBERS AND MY FRIENDS.

SHOUTOUT TO YOU FOR GETTING ME TO WHERE I AM TODAY.

SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS SUPPORTED ME.

VERY WELL DONE.

NEXT LET'S, IT'S PROCLAMATION AND RECOGNITION OF PRIDE MONTH.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DR. BHAT-PATEL MAKE THE SURE AND I'M GOING TO INVITE MISS LISA NAVA TO THE PODIUM, THE DIRECTOR OF PRIDE BY THE BEACH, AND THEN IS YOUR VOLUNTEER HERE AS WELL.

OKAY. SO THEN JUST.

MS. NAVA. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS BEFORE I READ THE PROCLAMATION.

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THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, THERE HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE MANY FOLKS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE HAD POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE WORLD.

PRIDE, AS OPPOSED TO SHAME AND SOCIAL STIGMA IS THE PREDOMINANT OUTLOOK THAT BOLSTERS MOST LGBTQ+ RIGHTS MOVEMENTS.

THE RAINBOW FLAG ALSO CARRIES MEANING SO RED FOR LIFE, ORANGE FOR HEALING, YELLOW FOR SUNLIGHT, GREEN FOR NATURE, BLUE FOR SERENITY AND PURPLE FOR SPIRIT. I JUST WANTED TO END WITH A QUOTE BY GEORGE TAKEI, WHERE HE SAYS, WE SHOULD INDEED KEEP CALM IN THE FACE OF DIFFERENCE AND LIVE OUR LIVES IN A STATE OF INCLUSION AND WONDER AT THE DIVERSITY OF HUMANITY.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO READ OUR PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS OUR NATION WAS FOUNDED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE, AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD SUPPORTS THE RIGHT OF EVERY CITIZEN TO EXPERIENCE EQUALITY AND FREEDOM FROM DISCRIMINATION.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS A DIVERSE LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER AND QUEER LGBTQ+ COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTING TO THE ENRICHMENT OF OUR CITY. AND. WHEREAS, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT ALL PEOPLE THAT LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN OUR COMMUNITY, REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR GENDER IDENTITY, FEEL VALUED, SAFE, EMPOWERED AND SUPPORTED.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY COUNCIL URGES EVERYONE TO EMBRACE THE PRINCIPLES OF EQUALITY AND LIBERTY, TO RESPECT AND HONOR OUR DIVERSITY, AND TO CELEBRATE AND BUILD A CULTURE OF INCLUSIVENESS AND ACCEPTANCE.

THEREFORE, I COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, PROCLAIMED THE MONTH OF JUNE 2022 AS LGBTQ+ PRIDE MONTH HERE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND WITH THAT, LISA.

WELL, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR HALL AND DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE REPRESENTING THE NORTH COUNTY LGBTQ RESOURCE CENTER.

I STARTED AS A VOLUNTEER AT THE RESOURCE CENTER TEN YEARS AGO, AND I HAVE BEEN THE PROUD AND HUMBLED PRIDE DIRECTOR FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

THIS PAST WEEKEND WE HAD OUR 15TH ANNUAL PRIDE FESTIVAL AND WE HAD OVER 15,000 PEOPLE CELEBRATING WITH US IN THE HEART OF OCEANSIDE. ALTHOUGH WE ARE IN OCEANSIDE, WE DO REPRESENT ALL OF NORTH COUNTY AND WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO BRING OUR PRIDE FESTIVAL AS A DESTINATION EVENT MAKING AN ECONOMIC IMPACT ALL OVER NORTH COUNTY.

A PRIDE PROCLAMATION IS NO SMALL ACT.

SO I COMMEND EACH OF YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE PROCLAMATION, FOR ALLOWING DR.

PATEL AND YOUR ALLIED SUPPORT.

IN READING THE PROCLAMATION.

EVEN TODAY WE GET REPORTS OF OPPRESSION, VIOLENCE AGAINST OUR LGBT FAMILY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING A STEP FORWARD AND LEADING IN THIS DIRECTION.

ALL OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN CARLSBAD AND YOUR EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY REALLY APPRECIATE IT, EVEN IF THEY DON'T TELL YOU THAT IT IS NOT A SMALL ACT. AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEHALF OF THE CENTER.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT IS A PROCLAMATION OF RECOGNITION OF JUNE 10TH DAY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

YES, MY PLEASURE.

THIS IS A PROCLAMATION DECLARING JUNETEENTH DAY, JUNE 19TH, 2022.

AND WITH US AT THE PODIUM, WE HAVE NANCY MACUSA-BURKE.

BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION AGAIN.

IT'S JUNE 19TH, 2022 JUNETEENTH DAY AND I'LL READ THE WHEREASES.

WHEREAS JUNETEENTH DAY COMMEMORATES JUNE 19, 1865, IN WHICH UNION GENERAL GORDON GRANGER ANNOUNCED THE END OF THE CIVIL WAR IN GALVESTON, TEXAS, FOLLOWING OVER TWO CENTURIES OF SLAVERY SINCE COLONIAL AMERICA.

AND. WHEREAS, THOUSANDS OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE IN TEXAS, AMONG THE LAST TO LEARN OF THEIR LIBERATION, ENGAGED IN THE JUBILEE THAT BEGAN IN TEXAS AND SPREAD TO OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION.

AND. WHEREAS, JUNE 19, 1865, CALLED FOR THE END OF INSTITUTIONALIZED HUMAN CHATTEL SLAVERY.

AND LATER ON DECEMBER SIX, 1865, RATIFICATION OF THE 13TH AMENDMENT OFFICIALLY ABOLISHED SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD PROMOTES THE SIGNIFICANCE OF JUNETEENTH DAY TO HONOR AND REFLECT ON THE ESSENTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS, SYSTEMIC HARDSHIPS AND ONGOING ACHIEVEMENTS THAT BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICANS EXPERIENCE IN THE JOURNEY FOR TRUE LIBERTY, JUSTICE AND FREEDOM FOR ALL PEOPLE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I COUNCIL MEMBER TERESA ACOSTA ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROUDLY PROCLAIM JUNE 19, 2022 AS JUNETEENTH DAY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU. AND, NANCY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? YES, I WOULD.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

GOOD EVENING TO EVERYBODY.

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ARE YOU SHE HER PRONOUNS AND I AM THE SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER FOR DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION OR DEI, TOGETHER IN COLLABORATION WITH THE DEI COMMITTEE STEERING MEMBERS, STAFF AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATES OF SOCIAL EQUITY.

I AM HUMBLED TO ACCEPT THE JUNETEENTH PROCLAMATION, A FIRST AND A MILESTONE FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

IN THE SPIRIT OF SOCIAL JUSTICE IN ALL PLACES, MAY JUNETEENTH SERVE AS A REMINDER OF HOPE AND CELEBRATING SUCCESSES BIG AND SMALL AMONG BLACK COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING A SENSE OF BELONGING AND BEING WELCOMED.

THIS JUNETEENTH PROCLAMATION SYMBOLIZE AND SUPPORT ACTION TOWARDS GREATER SYSTEMIC EQUITY AND LIBERATION FOR BLACK LIVES EVERYWHERE.

THIS BEGINS WITH A DEEPER, ACTIVE UNDERSTANDING OF HISTORY FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES, INCLUDING LEADERS, FOLLOWERS, THOSE IN POWER, THE MARGINALIZED, AND THOSE SEEKING EMPOWERMENT, PARTICIPATION AND REPRESENTATION.

NOW, I'D LIKE TO PASS IT ON TO MY COLLEAGUE, CURTIS JACKSON.

CURTIS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

HONORABLE COUNCIL. WE CELEBRATE THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE ENDURING PRESENCE OF BLACK AMERICANS.

WE MUST STRIVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SOCIAL PRACTICES AND STRUCTURES THAT HAVE ENHANCED AND ALSO CHALLENGE PERIODS OF BLACK JOY AND ADVANCEMENT IN THIS COUNTRY.

LET IT BE KNOWN THAT FOLLOWING PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S OFFICIAL EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION ON JANUARY 1ST, 1863, IT TOOK TWO AND A HALF YEARS FOR THE NEWS TO REACH TEXAS. THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, HOWEVER, DID NOT INSTANTLY LIBERATE ENSLAVED PEOPLE.

THE PROCLAMATION APPLIED TO PLACES UNDER CONFEDERATE CONTROL, NOT TO SLAVEHOLDING BORDER STATES NOR REBEL AREAS ALREADY UNDER UNION CONTROL.

THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA WAS A GROUP OF 11 STATES THAT SECEDED FROM THE UNITED STATES IN 1860 AFTER ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION DECLARED THAT ALL ENSLAVED PEOPLE IN CONFEDERATE STATES IN REBELLION AGAINST THE UNION SHALL QUOTE.

SHE'LL THEN AND THENCEFORTH FOREVER BE FREE.

THE 13TH AMENDMENT, RATIFIED IN DECEMBER OF 1865 BY THE U.S.

CONGRESS, FREED ENSLAVED PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, NOT JUST THOSE IN THE CONFEDERACY.

IN SPITE OF ONGOING RESTRICTIONS IMPACTING BLACK LIVES, TEXAS BECAME THE FIRST STATE TO MAKE JUNETEENTH AN OFFICIAL HOLIDAY IN 1979.

LAST YEAR, IN JUNE 2021, CONGRESS PASSED A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING JUNETEENTH AS A NATIONAL HOLIDAY.

PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED IT INTO LAW ON JUNE 17, 2021.

I HANDED OVER TO NANCY TO FINISH UP.

THANK YOU, CURTIS.

LET US BE REMINDED THAT WE NEED TO KNOW JUSTICE.

IN ORDER TO KNOW PEACE, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO APPRECIATE WHAT LIBERATION TRULY MEANS.

THE AMERICAN FLAG STANDS FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THAT MEANS ALL PEOPLE.

ALL LIVES AND BLACK LIVES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL OTHER NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE ASK YOU TO REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED. SO WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? YES, MAYOR. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MARVIN SIPPLE, FOLLOWED BY GLENN BERNARD.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR HALL.

AND COUNCIL, AS YOU JUST NOTED, MY NAME IS MARVIN SIPPLE.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY GREAT GRANDKIDS.

I HAVE FIVE.

I'M A GREAT GRANDFATHER, AND I'M HERE FOR THAT PARTICULAR REASON.

THAT'S THE THIRD ITEM ON MY AGENDA.

FIRST ITEM, IF YOU HAVE A PEN OR PENCIL, I RECOMMEND THE INTERSECTION OF MADISON AND EXCUSE ME, MADISON AND GRAND AVENUE.

I THINK IT NEEDS SOME FLASHING LIGHTS.

HAVE YOUR ENGINEERS PERHAPS CHECK THAT OUT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE BUSINESS ON THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS NOW WITH THE RESTAURANTS ON BOTH SIDES.

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SECOND ITEM JUST TO PART ON YOU WHAT YOU DID LAST WEEK WITH THE POLICE REVIEW AND THE CITIZENS INVOLVEMENT.

I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL STEP FORWARD AND I THINK IT'S A REAL IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CITY, FOR EVERYONE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE THIRD ITEM IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE I SAID I'M A GREAT GRANDFATHER.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ASSAULT WEAPONS AS MY KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL.

THEY'RE SUBJECT PERHAPS TO ANY OF THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS. WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM HERE.

AND MY URGING IS FOR YOU AS A COUNCIL TO CONSIDER TAKING A PUBLIC POSITION, USING THE BULLY PULPIT.

YOU'VE GOT IN PUBLICATIONS, IN THE NEWSPAPERS AS STATING THAT YOU FAVOR A BAN OF ASSAULT WEAPONS.

IT'S A HUGE TASK TO TAKE ON, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR MORE PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND AGENCIES AND MORE PEOPLE TO GET ON BOARD.

WHAT WE NEED IS A TIPPING POINT WHERE THE OPPOSITION IS GOING TO BE OUTWEIGHED BY THOSE PROPONENTS WHO WANT TO HAVE SOME GUN CHANGES.

AND I THINK THE ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE NOT NECESSARY FOR PEOPLE DOING HUNTING.

I DON'T THINK THE NRA DOESN'T HAVE, THEY HAVE ENOUGH WEAPONS ALREADY.

THEY DON'T NEED THE ASSAULT WEAPONS.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SEEM TO BE CAUSING THE SCHOOL PROBLEMS. AS A RETIRED HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER HERE, I'M AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS I WOULD FACE IF I WERE IN THE CLASSROOM AGAIN.

SO I URGE YOU TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.

I REALIZE IT'S A RISKY STEP, BUT IF YOU DID IT, PERHAPS YOU'D BE THE FIRST IN THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY TO HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKE SUCH A POSITION.

OTHERS MIGHT DO THE SAME THING, AND LITTLE BY LITTLE WE MIGHT GET SOME SOME IMPROVEMENT ON THIS.

SO PLEASE URGE AND THINK ABOUT IT, SEE WHAT THE POSITION IS FOR YOU MEMBERS.

AND AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME FOR MY MY TALK.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GLENN BARNARD, FOLLOWED BY TIM MORGAN.

THE NAME THAT I CAN IDENTIFY WITH WOULD BE MARINE.

THE PHRASE SAY HIS NAME.

WE COULD THINK OF.

SOME YOUNG BLACK MEN WHOSE LIVES WERE CUT SHORT, CUT BY CAMCORDERS.

AND WE WISH THAT ALL OF THOSE FELLOWS WERE STILL ALIVE.

IF I USE THE PHRASE, SAY HER NAME, YOU THINK, WHO THE HECK IS HE TALKING ABOUT? WE'VE GOT SOME HEARINGS GOING ON IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW USING A PHRASE DEADLY DAY.

AND THAT'S THANKS TO ASHLI BABBITT.

A LADY THAT WAS NOT WEARING A WEAPON, BUT SHE GOT SHOT BY A COP.

AT THE CAPITOL. SAY HER NAME.

ASHLI BABBITT, UNARMED AND DEAD.

SO DO YOU THINK A FORMER FBI GUY CAN TALK ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT IN AMERICA AND CARLSBAD PD IN PARTICULAR? 1972, WE'RE JUST ABOUT TO THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY TO THE DAY OF THE WATERGATE BREAK IN.

THIS WAS THE YEAR THAT J.

EDGAR HOOVER SIGNED MY PAPERS.

AND NOT LONG AFTER THAT THERE I WAS HELPING A GUY NAMED MARK FELT.

INTERESTING NICKNAME.

DEEP THROAT. SO.

GOT A RESTRAINING ORDER ON JUNE 1ST AGAINST A BAD PERSON.

AND SO MY WIFE AND I ARE PROTECTED.

HE'S SUPPOSED TO TURN IN WEAPONS.

HE DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR HIS HEARING.

HE DIDN'T TURN IN THE WEAPONS THAT HE'S BRAGGED ABOUT.

CARLSBAD PD.

I JUST SAY YES OR NO.

DOES HE HAVE ANY REGISTERED WEAPONS? SCARED. SCARED TO TELL ME YES OR NO? I'M NOT ASKING HOW MANY AND WHAT THEY ARE, BUT SAME WITH SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND SAN DIEGO PD, WHICH IS WHERE THIS DIRTBAG LIVES.

THEY'RE ALL SCARED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO PERPETRATE BAD THINGS OR APPARENTLY DEFENDED.

SO SIMILARLY, I'VE HAD MANY BAD INSTANCES ON THAT SEA WALL, INCLUDING THIS PAST WEEKEND.

MY WIFE AND I WERE ON THE SEAWALL TAKING A WALK.

AND SO A GUY ON A MOTORIZED BICYCLE CLIPS ME FROM BEHIND.

HE CONTINUES ON.

I GIVE HIM FOUR WORDS.

THE THE SECOND WORD WAS YOU.

AND THE FOURTH WORD WAS WHOLE.

AND HE HE TURNED AROUND.

AND DROVE INTO ME.

I PUT MY ARMS UP AND HE LEFT BRUISED AND WITH ONE WHEEL MISSING FROM HIS MOTORCYCLE AND THE RESPONSE FROM CARLSBAD PD WAS PATHETIC.

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THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS TIM MORGAN.

MY NAME IS MORGAN. I'M HERE AGAIN TO DISCUSS THE INTERSECTION OF TAMARACK AND VALLEY AND HOW UNSAFE THE ENTIRE PROJECT OF THE HYBRID TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT IS BEING BUILT THERE.

I FIRST CAME TO CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 10TH.

ON MAY 10TH, I HAD 19 SIGNATURES ON A PETITION.

THE PETITION KEEPS GROWING.

TODAY I HAVE 63 AND IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP.

SO WHY DID ALL THE LOCAL RESIDENTS SIGN THE PETITION? BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN AROUND THE INTERSECTION AND SEE HOW UNSAFE THE PROJECT IS.

THEY SEE FIRSTHAND HOW THE PROJECT NARROWS THE LANE FOR E-BIKERS, CAUSING VEHICLES AND E-BIKERS TO POTENTIALLY COLLIDE.

THEY SEE HOW THE PULL OF 50.5 INCHES DIAMETER, THE FIRST ONE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, LIMITS THE VIEW OF INCOMING TRAFFIC.

AND AND NUMBER ONE, THEY SEE HOW THE PROJECT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NUMBER ONE CONCERN, WHICH IS SPEEDING FOR DECADES.

I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH IT.

THE RESIDENTS HAVE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE SPEEDING.

THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL DOES NOT HELP THE SPEEDING FROM VEHICLES COMING DOWN THE HILL ON TAMARACK AND JAMES.

THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL DOES NOT ACTIVATE, WILL NOT BE ACTIVATED MOST OF THE TIME, THEREFORE WOULD NOT STOP SPEEDERS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION OF VALLEY AND TAMARACK, ALONG WITH THE SUPPORT FROM 100% OF LOCAL RESIDENTS.

WE ALSO HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE SURROUNDING SCHOOLS, VERBAL SUPPORT FROM VALLEY, MAGNOLIA, ST.

PAT'S PRINCIPALS, SUPPORT FROM FUTURE POTENTIAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, SUPPORT FROM THE CROSSING GUARD WHO SEES DAILY ON HOW UNSAFE THE PROJECT HAS MADE THE INTERSECTION ALSO SUPPORT FROM A LOCAL BUS DRIVER OF 27 YEARS PERFECT DRIVING RECORD POINTS.

HOW DANGEROUS THAT CURB IS ON HOW TO TURN THE CURB ON TURNING WESTBOUND EITHER GOING IN COME IN TRAFFIC OR THE CURB A PICTURE IN FRONT OF YOU OF A WEEK OLD CURVE THAT'S ALREADY BLACK CAN IMAGINE AFTER WEEKS AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE TRAFFIC AND COMMISSION MOBILITY YOU RECEIVED THE MEMO BUT ON JUNE 6TH THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS PRESENTED TO THE TRAFFIC AND COMMISSION COMMITTEE AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING, EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION VOTED TO REQUEST STAFF TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO TO BRIEF THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, CURRENT OPTIONS AND OPINION, AND PREVENT OTHER OPTIONS FOR TRAFFIC COMMON IN THAT AREA.

WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE TRAFFICKING COMMISSION.

WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT.

THE PROJECT KEEPS BEING DELAYED AND DELAYED.

INITIALLY, THE PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED APRIL 30TH.

NOW AUGUST, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I DO KNOW.

THE PROJECT, THERE'S 100% CONSENSUS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT THE PROJECT IS UNWARRANTED, UNSAFE, 100% CONSENSUS.

THE PROJECT DID NOT ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, 100% CONSENSUS.

WE NEED TO REVISIT FOR ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE, GUYS.

WE CAN DO SOMETHING NOT TOO LATE TO WORK TOGETHER AS ONE CARLSBAD AND ACT JUST LIKE THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION.

WE ASK FOR THE COUNCIL TO PLACE AN ITEM ON TO REVISIT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

IF I MAY COMMENT TO STAFF ON THAT, I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KIND OF ADDRESS PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT WE CAN KIND OF REFER TO STAFF.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW ESSENTIALLY IF YOU COULD KEEP THE COUNCIL INFORMED WHEN THERE IS OR IF THERE IS A HEARING OR AN AGENDA ITEM ON THIS IN TERMS OF OUR TRAFFIC AND SAFETY COMMISSION, AND THEN LET THE COUNCIL KNOW WHAT THAT ACTION IS.

YEAH, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE STATEMENT.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP COUNCIL APPRIZED.

I KNOW WE'VE PROVIDED COUNCIL SEVERAL MEMOS THUS FAR.

THE STATEMENTS ARE NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THUS FAR.

I SPOKE TO DR.

CHURCHILL EARLIER TODAY THAT IS INCONSISTENT OF BROAD SUPPORT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT AGAIN, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP COUNCIL CONTINUOUSLY INFORMED ABOUT THIS SITUATION.

OK, IF WE COULD MOVE ON, WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

GLENN BERNARD.

ITEM SIX, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE, IS ALLOCATING FUNDS TO THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND CONCRETE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023. GO AHEAD, MR.

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IN CARLSBAD, IT NEEDS TO OCCUR.

BECAUSE THE CITY HAS PLANTED TREES AT CITY EXPENSE ALL OVER THE VANILLA STREETS THAT WE HAVE.

THE VANILLA STREETS ARE THE ONES WITH CURBS AND SIDEWALKS.

THE COOL STREETS WERE WERE BUILT WITHOUT CURBS AND SIDEWALKS BEFORE 1952, WHEN THE CITY BECAME INCORPORATED.

BUT WITH REGARDS TO THE VANILLA STREETS, LIKE WHAT I LIVE ON CURBS, GUTTERS, SIDEWALKS.

THE CITY HAS PLANTED TREES.

ABOUT TWO FEET IN MANY PLACES ALL OVER THE CITY, TWO FEET FROM THE CURB.

WHICH MEANS THE SIDEWALK IS TWO FEET BEHIND THE TREES.

THE ROOTS TEAR UP THE CURBS, SIDEWALKS, GUTTERS.

MOSTLY OWNED BY CITY HALL PLANTED BY CITY PERSONNEL AT CITY EXPENSE, FREQUENTLY BLOCKING OCEAN VIEWS.

SO. I'VE NEVER LIVED ON A STREET WITH A TREE WITH A 20 FOOT BRANCH THAT'S PLANTED TWO FEET FROM THE ROAD. ON OUR FIRST NIGHT, LIVING THERE PARKING THE U-HAUL BIG, LOUD DIESEL ENGINE.

I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

MY WIFE'S POUNDING ON THE DOOR.

BECAUSE I MADE CONTACT WITH A BRANCH OVERHEAD BRANCH COMES DOWN, BREAKS THE WINDSHIELD OF THE U HAUL.

SO COME TO FIND OUT, I'D LOOK THROUGH THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE MANUAL, AND THERE WAS A PARAGRAPH IN THERE DEALING WITH STREET TREES, IT SAYS.

IT ACTUALLY SAID THAT THEY WILL NOT BE PLANTED WITHIN FIVE FEET OF PAVING.

SO I BROUGHT THIS UP TO PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL 15 YEARS AGO.

AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.

I SAID, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE THE TREES OUT.

AND INSTEAD OF WHAT THEY CHOSE TO TAKE OUT.

WAS THE PROHIBITION IN THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE MANUAL AGAINST HAVING STREET TREES WITHIN FIVE FEET OF PAVING.

SO HOW ABOUT YOU PUT, LIKE, NOTHING IN THE BUDGET? UNTIL YOU GET ALL YOUR STREET TREES AWAY FROM ALL YOUR CONCRETE.

AND PRETEND THAT YOUR ORDINANCE IS STILL IN EFFECT THAT SAYS STREET TREES ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN FIVE FEET OF PAVING.

IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE, BUT I'VE GOT COPIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MOTION.

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY. CONSENT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE HAVE NO ORDINANCES FOR INTRODUCTION OR ADOPTION, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 OPERATING BUDGET, THE STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT

[7. ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 OPERATING BUDGET, STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PROGRAM AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, APPROPRIATION LIMIT AND REVISION OF FEES AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES – 1)]

OKAY. AND THEN BEFORE I GIVE THIS TO MR. CHADWICK, DID THE CITY ATTORNEY WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD BUDGET AND CIP PROGRAM INCLUDE FUNDING DECISIONS AND CONSISTENCY DETERMINATIONS FOR PROJECTS IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREA.

THE MAYOR HAS DISQUALIFYING REAL PROPERTY AND BUSINESS INTERESTS IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREA AND WILL BE RECUSING HIMSELF FROM ANY SEPARATE DECISIONS RELATED TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD BUDGET AND CIP PROGRAM.

THE MAYOR IS NOT REQUIRED TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THE FINAL VOTE ON THE CITY OF CARLSBAD BUDGET AND CIP PROGRAM.

HE IS ALSO NOT REQUIRED TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THE DECISIONS ON THE REMAINING RECOMMENDED ACTIONS, INCLUDING THE BUDGETS AND CIP PROGRAMS FOR THE OTHER CARLSBAD ENTITIES.

THE MAYOR WILL LISTEN TO THE STAFF PRESENTATION AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

HE WILL THEN RECUSE HIMSELF FROM ANY SEPARATE DECISIONS ON THE CITY OF CARLSBAD BUDGET AND CIP PROGRAM.

ONCE ANY SEPARATE DECISIONS ON THE CITY OF CARLSBAD BUDGET AND CIP PROGRAM ARE COMPLETED.

THE MAYOR WILL RETURN FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINING RECOMMENDED ACTIONS AND THE FINAL VOTE ON ALL OF THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

AND JUST FOR CLARITY, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION PRIOR TO LEAVING THE DAIS ON THE OVERALL FINANCIAL STATUS OF THE CITY.

SO THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO WITH THAT, MR. CHADWICK, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTION.

GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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LAURA ROCHA, ALONG WITH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, ZACK KORACH.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR HALL AND MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS LAURA ROCHA.

THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.

I HAVE HERE WITH ME TONIGHT OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, ZACK KORACH.

AND WE ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO YOU INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2223 OPERATING BUDGET, OUR STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PROGRAM, AS WELL AS OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

WE'LL ALSO BE LOOKING AT THE FISCAL YEAR 22-23 APPROPRIATION LIMIT, AS WELL AS OUR FEES AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO ZACK AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LAURA.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MAYOR, PRO TEM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ZACK KORACH, FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY.

CAN I GET YOU JUST A HAIR CLOSER TO THE MIC? ABSOLUTELY. I WILL NOT GO OVER TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION AGENDA AS LAURA HAD JUST DONE THAT.

SO I'LL SKIP RIGHT AHEAD.

RECOMMENDED ACTION WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC INPUT, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN FINALLY ADOPTING RESOLUTIONS.

AS FOR THE BUDGET OVERVIEW, AS A REMINDER, THE PRELIMINARY OPERATING BUDGET WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 24, 2022 THE PRELIMINARY CAPITAL AND STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PROGRAM WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE SEVEN, 2022.

NOW THE OPERATING BUDGET IS BALANCED WITH A SMALL SURPLUS.

WE'RE MAINTAINING ALL SERVICES AT CURRENT HIGH LEVELS, AS WELL AS CARRYING ON PROGRAMS THAT WERE BROUGHT ON IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE SOLID PROGRESS ON CITY COUNCIL'S FIVE GOLD THEME AREAS AS PART OF ITS STRATEGIC PLAN.

NOW LOOKING AT CITYWIDE REVENUES, JUST UNDER $340 MILLION.

THIS REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE PRELIMINARY OPERATING BUDGET PRESENTATION ON MAY 24TH.

CITYWIDE EXPENSES, $342 MILLION.

THERE IS ONE SLIGHT CHANGE WE'LL SEE IN THE GENERAL FUND, A IN ADDITION OF $138,000 AS PER CITY COUNCIL'S REQUEST TO ADD BACK THE GUIDE PROGRAM WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND REVENUE SOURCES.

THE MAIN TAKEAWAY HERE IS THE CONCENTRATION FOR PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX AND TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX TOGETHER COMPRISING OVER 80% OF THE GENERAL FUNDS REVENUE SOURCES. LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY TYPE PERSONNEL GENERALLY ON A FISCAL YEAR BASIS RANGES BETWEEN 60 AND 65% OF THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET THIS YEAR, LANDING AT 62%.

THAT'S NEXT, FOLLOWED BY MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AT 30%.

ALSO LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY AREA OR BY BRANCH AND CONSISTENT YEAR OVER YEAR.

PUBLIC SAFETY REPRESENTS THE LARGEST COST TO THE GENERAL FUND AT APPROXIMATELY 45% AND CONSISTENTLY THAT'S NEXT, FOLLOWED BY COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC WORKS.

SO I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND DISCUSS GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES NUMERICALLY, AS I HAD DONE IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.

AND I'LL FOCUS ON JUST A FEW OF THE CATEGORIES.

FIRST, SALES TAX WILL NOTICE A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR 1.2 MILLION OR 2.4%.

AND THIS IS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND CONSIDER DIMINISHING PENT UP DEMAND, RISING COSTS AND INFLATION AND THE IMPACTS TO DISPOSABLE INCOME.

AND SO THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH OR A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE THAT IS APPLIED TO WHERE WE'RE ESTIMATING CURRENT YEAR REVENUES AND NAMELY SALES TAX.

THE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE HAS ALSO BEEN APPLIED TO TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX.

WE'RE ESTIMATING $28.1 MILLION THIS YEAR.

THAT IS A HISTORIC HIGH FOR THE CITY AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING GROWTH, BUT ALBEIT CONSERVATIVE GROWTH AND THAT IS A RESULT OF TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION RISING COSTS, INFLATION AND LIKELY IMPACTS TO DISPOSABLE INCOME AS WELL AS TOURISM.

THE LAST CATEGORY I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS AT THE BOTTOM ALL OF THE RATHER ALL OTHER REVENUE, A REDUCTION OF $6.7 MILLION.

AND AS I HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT CITY JUST RECEIVED ITS SECOND AND FINAL ANNUAL INSTALLMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, FUNDING TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF COVID 19.

WITH THAT FUNDING ENDING THAT IS THE PRIMARY DRIVER FOR THE REVENUE REDUCTION YEAR OVER YEAR.

NOW LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND EXPLAIN THE NEARLY $14 MILLION INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR, STARTING WITH PERSONNEL.

THERE'S AN INCREASE OF $7.8 MILLION OR 6.7%.

AND I WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE VACANCY SAVINGS ONE MORE TIME, AND THAT IS BECAUSE THIS IS A CHANGE TO CARLSBAD'S BUDGET.

VACANCY SAVINGS REPRESENTS SAVINGS THAT ARE.

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HISTORICALLY, STAFF HAD BROUGHT FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS, GENERALLY AT THE MIDPOINT OF THE FISCAL YEAR FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER REPURPOSING THOSE SAVINGS FOR OTHER USES.

THIS YEAR, STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY PROACTIVELY ACCOUNT FOR THESE SAVINGS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.

NOW DOING THIS WILL ACHIEVE TWO THINGS.

THE FIRST, IT WILL REDUCE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND THEREBY REDUCING THE BUDGET AUTHORITY UNDER THE CITY MANAGER AND SECOND BUDGETED PERSONNEL COSTS WILL MORE CLOSELY ALIGN WITH ACTUAL PERSONNEL COSTS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

MOVING DOWN THE LINE, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING A $1.1 MILLION REDUCTION OR NEARLY 2%.

THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE, POSITIVE STORY GIVEN WHERE RISING COSTS ARE HEADED.

RECENT CPI FACTOR OF 8% REACHING 40 YEAR HIGHS.

THIS IS A POSITIVE SIGN THAT WE'RE SEEING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS SPENDING TRENDING DOWNWARD ACTUALLY YEAR OVER YEAR.

AND THIS WAS IN DIRECT DIRECTLY CORRELATED TO A CITY MANAGER DIRECTION FOR DEPARTMENTS TO REVIEW THEIR BUDGETS AND IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL AREAS FOR REDUCTION, WHICH ACHIEVED OVER $1.5 MILLION IN SAVINGS.

THE LAST ITEM IS TRANSFERS.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSFERS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MOVEMENT OF FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND SPECIFICALLY OR GENERALLY TO CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS FOR PLANNING, FOR FUTURE CAPITAL SPEND OR CAPITAL FUNDING.

THAT'S PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2122 ADOPTED BUDGET.

AND IN AN EFFORT TO MITIGATE IMPACTS, ADVERSE FINANCIAL IMPACTS FROM COVID 19, TRANSFERS WERE REDUCED ONE TIME IN ORDER TO BALANCE THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, NOT HAVING THAT SAME LEVEL OF NEED IN RESPONSE TO MITIGATING COVID 19.

STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE AMOUNT OF TRANSFERS BE RESTORED BACK TO HISTORICAL LEVELS.

NEW FULL TIME POSITIONS.

THERE ARE 24, TWO OF WHICH ARE TEMPORARY OR LIMITED TERM.

71%. 71%, EXCUSE ME, OF THE REQUESTED POSITIONS ARE POLICE, FIRE AND LIFEGUARD POSITIONS.

AND TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUEST FOR THESE 24, THE EQUIVALENT OF 4.75 FULL TIME POSITIONS ARE BEING ELIMINATED IN THIS REPRESENTS A NET INCREASE OF 19.25.

NOW, YOU MAY RECALL THESE NUMBERS BEING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE PRELIMINARY PRESENTATION AND THAT IS RESULTING FROM THE GUIDE PROGRAM BEING ADDED BACK AS IT IS FUNDED THROUGH FULL TIME EQUIVALENT STAFF.

NOW ON ENTERPRISE FUND OVERVIEW.

JUST A QUICK EXPLANATION HERE.

REVENUES OF $90 MILLION, EXPENDITURES OF $93 MILLION.

IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR ENTERPRISE FUNDS EITHER AT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO RELY ON FUND BALANCE OR THE ACCUMULATION OF RESOURCES FROM PREVIOUS FISCAL YEARS IN ORDER TO BALANCE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS BUDGETS.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.

FOR FEE UPDATES. THERE ARE INCREASES PROPOSED IN DEVELOPMENT IMPACT, SOLID WASTE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES AS WELL AS AMBULANCE FEES.

AND THOSE ARE ALL BASED ON THE ASSOCIATED INDEXES AND THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE CITY.

AND THEN LASTLY, LIBRARY LATE FEES ARE STILL CONTINUING TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR TO BE ELIMINATED.

I'M MOVING OVER TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM NOW COMPARED TO FISCAL YEAR 22 AND THE 56.2 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROPRIATION IN FISCAL YEAR 23.

STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING $43.4 MILLION IN APPROPRIATIONS, 2.1 MILLION OF WHICH IS FOR NEW PROJECTS.

NOW THERE ARE 14 NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THE PROGRAM.

THE FIRST SEVEN PERTAIN TO THE $2.1 MILLION AND THOSE WILL BE FUNDED IN THE IMMEDIATE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

THE REMAINING SEVEN PROJECTS WILL BE PROGRAMED FOR FUTURE FUNDING IN FUTURE FISCAL YEARS.

NOW HERE WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE SEVEN PROJECTS THAT WILL BE THAT WILL BEGIN IN FISCAL YEAR 23, THE $2.1 MILLION.

AND THE REMAINING SEVEN PROJECTS THAT WILL BE PROGRAMED IN THE RESPECTIVE FUTURE FISCAL YEAR.

NOW ON JUNE 7TH, CITY COUNCIL HAD PROVIDED DIRECTION TO STAFF TO NOT DELAY THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

IMPLEMENTATION STAFF HAD COMMUNICATED THAT THERE WOULD BE IMPACTS ON FUNDING AND STAFFING RESOURCES AND AS A RESULT, AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL STAFF WILL BRING AN ITEM TO COUNCIL IN THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL YEAR 2223 TO DISCUSS THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION AND ITS FUND AND RESOURCE ALLOCATION, AS WELL AS IMPACTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DESIRED PROJECT SCHEDULE.

AND THEN LASTLY, STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PROGRAM.

HERE WE HAVE THE FIVE YEAR PROGRAM SUMMARY, A TOTAL OF 33 PROJECTS, $27 MILLION.

AND AS WE CAN SEE WITH THE PIE CHART, THE MAJORITY OF FUNDING IS BEING USED TO PROMOTE SECURITY AND SUSTAINABILITY THROUGH CONNECTIVITY AND PURSUING COMMUNITY WIDE DIGITAL

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THERE'S NEARLY $4 MILLION IN FUNDING REQUESTS, NINE NEW PROJECTS, 11 ONGOING PROJECTS, AND TWO CANCELED PROJECTS BY WHICH $150,000 WILL BE RETURNED TO THE PROGRAM.

AND THEN THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE STRATEGIC DIGITAL PROGRAM, THE MAJORITY OF WHICH IS FROM THE TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENT CAPITAL FUND.

OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, APPROXIMATELY $20 MILLION WILL BE ACCUMULATED TO FUND THE PROGRAM.

THAT'S NEXT, FOLLOWED BY INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY REPLACEMENT.

THIS IS AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND, $6.6 MILLION, AND THEN A SMALL PORTION FOR UTILITIES ENTERPRISE FUNDS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE IT OR TECHNOLOGY PROJECTS.

AND WITH THAT, THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.

AND AT THIS POINT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

VERY WELL DONE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.

WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MARK PACKARD.

OH, SHE LEFT. I WAS GOING TO BE SYMPATHY WITH SHEILA.

OKAY. HI.

GOOD EVENING.

EXCUSE ME. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER IN WHATEVER WAY IS LEGALLY PROPER.

YOUR PREVIOUS VOTE ON THE MAY 24TH MEETING REGARDING THE TRAIN TRENCHING PROJECT PROPOSED BY PETER NORBY.

A DECISION TO NOT INVEST ANY CITY RESOURCES ON THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF RELEGATING IT TO THE UNFUNDED DREAMS THAT WILL NEVER GET DONE.

AND THE CITY THEN WOULD NEVER RECEIVE THE BENEFITS.

TO THOSE WHO SAY, LET'S NOT PUT ANY OF OUR MONEY IN.

AND SEE IF WE CAN GET IT ALL FROM OTHER SOURCES.

I WOULD SAY THAT IF IT ISN'T IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO THE CITY TO INVEST SOME OF OUR OWN RESOURCES, EVEN WHEN IT'S IN OUR OWN CITY, THEN OTHERS WILL NOT BE INTERESTED IN THE PROJECT EITHER.

AND IT WILL REMAIN AN UNFUNDED DREAM, A LOST OPPORTUNITY.

CONVERSELY, IF THE CITY WERE TO INVEST THE NECESSARY FUNDS TO GET THIS PROJECT THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ENGINEERING REVIEWS, WHICH HAS THE STAFF HAS PROPOSED, THEN THIS PROJECT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO THE TOP OF THE PRIORITY LISTS AND AND WITH FUNDING FROM STATE AND FEDERAL POOLS TO BRING IT TO COMPLETION WITH THIS MAJOR ADVANTAGES TO THE CITY OF SOCIAL, ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS.

JUST ADDRESSING THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS ALONE.

THE CITY STAFF, THE CITY EVALUATION CALCULATED THAT THE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WOULD BE $2 BILLION AND EVEN A WORST CASE SCENARIO.

THAT'S A 40 TO 1 RETURN ON YOUR INVESTED DOLLAR.

THAT'S A PRETTY DARN GOOD INVESTMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD PROVIDE THEN FUNDS FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER PROJECTS THAT IT IS INTERESTED IN DOING WITHOUT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE CITY BUDGET IN OTHER AREAS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WISE INVESTING DOES FOR US, FOR A CITY IS IT PROVIDES FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT THAT DON'T HAVE THIS KIND OF RETURN.

BUT THIS WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THE TERM THAT THAT I LIKE TO USE AS A LEGACY PROJECT.

THIS WOULD PROVIDE A BENEFIT FOR THE CITY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME AND WILL CHANGE OUR SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH OF OUR CITY FOR FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

THAT ALL OF US WOULD BENEFIT FROM NOT JUST ONE SMALL SECTOR OF THE CITY, BUT OUR WHOLE CITY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU REEVALUATE THIS AND FIGURE OUT HOW THE CITY COULD INVEST ITS FUNDS TO GET THIS KIND OF BENEFIT FOR OUR CITY.

AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.

MAYOR OK. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY IN.

MR. CHADWICK I'VE HAD A CHANGE OF HEART.

I WILL ASK MY QUESTIONS AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION.

SO AND MAKE MY COMMENTS THEN, BUT BEFORE WE HAVE THE FINAL VOTE.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND STEP DOWN AND TURN IT OVER TO MR. BLACKBURN. CITY ATTORNEY.

I JUST WANT TO ASK A TECHNICAL QUESTION ON THERE IS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WE HAVE 11 AGENDA RESOLUTIONS.

ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THOSE ALL INDIVIDUALLY OR CAN WE DO THEM AS ONE? AND IS THE MAYOR ABLE TO VOTE ON WHICH ONES CAN HE VOTE AND WHICH ONES CAN'T SO HE'LL BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THE FINAL SET OF

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HE CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN THAT OR I THINK ONE OF YOUR VERY LAST RESOLUTIONS IS ALSO A CONSISTENCY DETERMINATION FINDING THAT THE CIP IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND CAP. AND AGAIN, TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT INVOLVES THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN, YOU CAN'T VOTE ON THAT.

SO AT THIS POINT, WE'D BE LOOKING FOR ANY COUNCIL DECISIONS THAT MIGHT AFFECT THAT PROJECT.

ON THOSE TWO MATTERS.

IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO START WITH QUESTIONS.

MR. NORBY? ANY QUESTIONS LIMITED TO THOSE PROJECTS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

MS. ACOSTA? I THINK I ASKED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS WHEN WE FIRST SAW THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET AND THE CHANGES MAKE SENSE TO ME.

SO I DON'T ONLY JUST COMMENTS AND MY COMMENT IS REALLY JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, OKAY? DR. BHAT-PATEL? AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER.

ANY COMMENTS? WOW, THIS IS GOING FASTER THAN I EVER EXPECTED.

OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM ON TELL ME SPECIFICALLY WHICH ITEMS WE CAN VOTE ON OR WE CAN INVITE THE MAYOR BACK AT THIS POINT.

AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T NEED YOU TO VOTE ON ANY OTHER ITEMS. YOU CAN VOTE ON THE PACKAGE AS A WHOLE.

AND WE DO THAT BEFORE THE MAYOR COMES BACK HERE, CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE VOTE.

YEAH, YOU CAN COME BACK IN AND THEN HE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE FINAL VOTE.

OKAY. HE MAY NOT HAVE EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN.

LET'S INVITE HIM BACK.

I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY COMMENDING YOU, MR. BLACKBURN. THAT IS A RECORD AND THEN SOME.

SO MINE'S A COMBINATION OF THOUGHTS AND IT'S AND I THINK I'VE MADE SOME OF MY COMMENTS SOMEWHAT CLEARER AS WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY KIND OF TRIGGERED MY THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN HE USED THE WORD PIVOT.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS NOTEWORTHY IS I DON'T THINK WE HAVE REALLY STUDIED WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.

I KNOW I'VE READ QUITE A BIT HERE IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE MAY OR MAY NOT BE.

AND TO BE QUITE HONEST, EACH DAY IT GETS WORSE.

SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, IS THAT WE WERE PROACTIVE 07,08,09 AND HOW WE ADDRESS IT, OUR BUDGET.

IF WE WERE TO GO BACK AND TAKE TODAY'S SLIDES OF WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS ARE AND PUT THE 07,08,09 PROJECTION UP THERE OR WHAT THE ACTUALS WERE, AND LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES, HOW THAT WOULD COMPARE OR MIGHT COMPARE TO WHAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE IS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A SLIDE ON.

WE DO. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A Q&A SLIDE ON THAT.

LET ME PULL THAT RIGHT UP.

SO, I'LL BE SHOWING THREE SLIDES IN TOTAL.

AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS A CHANGE IN REVENUES BY PERCENT OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS APPROXIMATELY, AND FOCUSING IN ON THE GENERAL FUND.

AND I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED TWO SIGNIFICANT PERIODS, THE GREAT RECESSION, AS WELL AS THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC.

AND AS WE'LL SEE IN FISCAL YEAR 09 AND FISCAL YEAR 10 REVENUES IN RESPECT TO THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, THE DECREASED BY 4.8% AND 3.6% IN THOSE TWO YEARS RESPECTIVELY.

NOW, FAST FORWARDING TO FISCAL YEAR 20.

IN FISCAL YEAR 21, IMMEDIATELY WITH THE ONSET OF THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC, REVENUES AND RESPECT TO THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR HAD DECREASED BY 2.9%.

THE REASON WHY WE SEE THAT JUMP IN FISCAL YEAR 21 BY 4.7% IS LARGELY DUE TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT IN THAT FIRST INSTALLMENT OF $6.3 MILLION.

NOW, MAYOR, TO YOUR QUESTION, IF WE WERE TO EXPERIENCE THESE TYPES OF REVENUE REDUCTIONS COMPARED TO REVENUES THAT WE'RE INCORPORATING IN THE BUDGET IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, THAT WOULD TRANSLATE TO APPROXIMATELY NINE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND $6.8 MILLION OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD.

NOW, IF THAT WERE TO TRANSLATE, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE AND THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE FLUCTUATIONS.

WE WOULD HAVE A FEW OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK TOWARDS.

THE FIRST WOULD BE LOOKING TOWARDS ONE TIME USE OF GENERAL FUND RESERVES.

AND I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD HAVE PREFACED THIS IS IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, JUST REALLY THREE GENERAL CONSIDERATIONS.

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THE SECOND WOULD BE FURTHER REVIEWING DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS FOR REDUCTIONS.

AND THEN THIRD IS LOOKING AT THE OPERATING TRANSFERS, WHERE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THE GENERAL FUND PROGRAMS IN ITS BUDGET $12 MILLION TO GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT AS WELL AS THE STRATEGIC DIGITAL PROGRAM.

THOSE WOULD BE THREE IMMEDIATE OPTIONS TO ASSIST IN BUDGET STABILIZATION, IF I JUST MIGHT ADD TO THAT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RESERVES, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL HAS CONTINGENCY RESERVES THAT ARE OVER AND ABOVE THE UNASSIGNED RESERVES OF 40%.

AT ONE POINT, I BELIEVE WE WERE UP TO ABOUT 19.1 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY RESERVES.

WE DID SHIFT FUNDS TO COVER THE SOME OF THE LOSSES DURING COVID.

AND WE DO EXPECT WITH OUR FEDERAL MONEY AS WELL AS STATE MONEY FOR REIMBURSEMENT, THAT WE WOULD REPLENISH THOSE FUNDS SHOULD WE RECEIVE MOST OF THAT OF THOSE REIMBURSED BACK.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESERVES, WE WOULD FIRST LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE CONTINGENCY IN ORDER TO MAKE UP FOR ANY SORT OF REVENUE SHORTFALL THAT WE WOULD BE SEEING.

AND THEN JUST FOR FURTHER CONTEXT, WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED THE HISTORICAL TRENDS IN THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR.

ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, WE SEE THE RESPONSE TO THE GREAT RECESSION AND THE I'LL CALL IT THE LACK OF INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR.

AND THAT WAS DIRECTLY IN RESPONSE TO THE ADVERSE IMPACTS, ADVERSE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF THE GREAT RECESSION ON THE CITY'S FINANCES THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS PARTICULAR CHART.

WE SEE MORE NORMALIZATION IN EXPENDITURE GROWTH.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, LEADING UP INTO THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC AND DIRECTLY IN RESPONSE.

WE SEE THAT SHARP DECLINE IN FISCAL YEAR 2021 AND THEN A BIT OF A NORMALIZATION IN RESPONSE AND CONSISTENT WITH A VERY QUICK RECOVERY FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT IN FISCAL YEAR 21-22.

I DO WANT TO NOTE ON THIS SLIDE, THOUGH, HOWEVER, IN 1920, AS WELL AS 21-22, WE DO HAVE ONE TIME PAYMENTS TO CALPERS INCLUDED IN SOME OF THESE YEARS, IN THESE YEARS THAT ARE BEING REFLECTED HERE.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN LASTLY, JUST PUTTING THOSE TWO PREVIOUS SLIDES TOGETHER AGAIN, FISCAL YEAR 09, FISCAL YEAR 10, GREAT RECESSION FISCAL YEAR 21 THROUGH CURRENT REALLY IMPACTS FROM FROM COVID 19.

OKAY. I GUESS MY POINT BEING, I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW MUCH DID WE PUT INTO RESERVES IN 08-09? I APOLOGIZE, MAYOR.

I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURE ON HAND.

IT WAS OVER $1,000,000 A YEAR.

SO BY BEING PROACTIVE IN PAUSING, IF YOU WILL, WE WADE THROUGH THE STORM.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO INTO RESERVES AND SPEND RESERVES.

WE ACTUALLY PUT MONEY INTO RESERVES.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REACTIVE AND PROACTIVE.

SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION TO ME IS, IS WHEN YOU START TO USE THE WORD PIVOT, PIVOT HAS A COST.

AND JUST AS YOU EXPLAIN THAT BUY, WE COULD ALWAYS GO AND START SPENDING SOME OF OUR RESERVES.

I GUESS IF I WAS A TAXPAYER, WOULD I WANT US TO BE PROACTIVE OR REACTIVE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT STAKE AND PART OF THE BUDGET IS AT LEAST A $6 MILLION INCREASE IN JUST LABOR ALONE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INCLUDES THE ANCILLARIES, THE LAPTOPS, THE CARS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES TOWARDS HIRING NEW PERSONNEL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE 6 MILLION OR NOT.

AND HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD, NO.

SO THAT TELLS ME THAT NUMBER IS GREAT, FAR GREATER THAN THAT.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LABOR COST, YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT A FRACTION OF THE COST OF WHAT WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO I JUST I JUST BRING THESE POINTS UP.

I KNOW WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE AGGRESSIVE.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND MAYBE IT'S JUST MY NATURE, PROBABLY SOME OF MY GRAY HAIR, BECAUSE I'VE LIVED THROUGH MORE THAN ONE OF THESE EXPERIENCES.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S MUCH BETTER TO PAUSE THAN TO BE OVERAGGRESSIVE, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE A CHECK.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW BIG THAT CHECK'S GOING TO BE.

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AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT THIS, IS THIS GOING TO BE A TWO YEAR OR A TEN YEAR DOWN CYCLE INTO THE ECONOMY? AND THE MORE I STUDY IT, THE LONGER THE DOWNTURN LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO WADE THROUGH IN A YEAR OR TWO.

SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF MY QUICK COMMENTS AS WE GO FORWARD.

IT'S NOT THAT YOU HAVEN'T DONE A GREAT JOB.

IT'S NOT THAT YOU HAVEN'T BROUGHT FORWARD A GREAT BUDGET, BUT IT'S JUST WHEN DO YOU CHOOSE TO SPEND THAT MONEY? BECAUSE YOU ONLY SPEND IT ONCE.

SO. WITH THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, DR.

BHAT-PATEL? YES, THANK YOU.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

WITH REGARDS TO THE SURPLUS THAT YOU MENTIONED, COULD YOU JUST GIVE ME A FIGURE ON THAT, PLEASE? FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2223 AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY OPERATING BUDGET, IT WAS 460,000.

WITH THE ADDITION OF THE GUIDE PROGRAM.

IT'S NOW AT 320,000.

OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH OUR RESERVES HAVE GROWN, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME, BUT IF YOU COULD PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER AND THEN ALSO THE PERCENTAGE. IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.

ABSOLUTELY. I'LL PULL UP THAT SLIDE.

SO THE GENERAL FUND GENERAL FUNDS RESERVE HAS ACTUALLY GROWN 41%.

AND AS IT PERTAINS TO JUNE 30, 2023 ESTIMATIONS, WE ARE PROJECTING $116 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND RESERVES.

THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY STATEMENT 74, WHICH SETS THE 40% THRESHOLD, THAT TRANSLATES TO $74 MILLION.

SO WE ARE PROJECTING TO HAVE AN APPROXIMATE $40 MILLION SURPLUS ABOVE THE POLICY LEVEL.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND THEN I KNOW, MS. ROCHA, YOU MENTIONED REIMBURSEMENT FROM, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS.

WHAT DOES THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT LOOK LIKE? I KNOW WE CAN'T PREDICT IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE EXPENDED, AS LONG AS IT FALLS WITHIN THE CRITERIA, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD GET REIMBURSED.

ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE FOLLOWED AND HAVE TRACKED THE ALL OF THE FEMA GUIDELINES, AS WELL AS ANY OF THE STATE GUIDELINES FOR ANY OF THEIR REIMBURSEMENT POSSIBILITIES. SO WHILE WE FEEL CONFIDENT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE TRACKED AND EVERYTHING THAT'S ELIGIBLE THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT NOW AND HAVE BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, ALTHOUGH FEMA TAKES QUITE SOME TIME.

I KNOW THE LAST BIG FEMA REIMBURSEMENT THAT A LOT OF CITIES WERE INVOLVED WITH THE FIRES IN 2014.

AND THAT DID TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT FEMA IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW WITH COVID WORLDWIDE.

SO WHILE WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT, IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME.

SURE. THANK YOU. AND CERTAINLY KEEP COUNCIL UPDATED.

GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED WAS THAT WE WOULD AS LONG AS WE FOLLOW THE CRITERIA, OF COURSE, IT COULD TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE COULD WE WOULD GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT.

AND I JUST I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT IT IS IT'S HARD.

AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE DECISIONS ARE DIFFICULT AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF WHAT WE HAVE.

AT THE SAME TIME, TRYING TO BE A THOUGHT LEADER ON MANY OF THE THINGS THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY AND HOPEFULLY THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

SO I THINK FROM THAT PARTICULAR PERSPECTIVE, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT.

I TRUST THAT YOU ALL, AS WE HAD MENTIONED, THAT YOU ALL ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD IN A MANNER THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO HAVE FORESIGHT.

AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS DONE IN EVERY SINGLE INDUSTRY.

IT'S NOT JUST DONE HERE IN GOVERNMENT.

WE HAVE TO PROJECT AND FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN ADJUST, HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE THAT THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE SITTING HERE ARE DOING THEIR JOBS, YOU KNOW, AND MAKING SURE THAT THE DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING ARE GOING TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE BEST QUALITY SERVICES TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

OTHER COMMENTS, MR. NORBY? THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST I THINK I'LL START WITH JUST GENERAL.

THANKS FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS AND HAVING MAYBE A LOOK INSIDE THAT PROCESS THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INTENSE THAN MOST PEOPLE BEING A CONSULTANT WITH THE CITY AND SEEING IN THE PAST AND SEEING EACH DEPARTMENT WORK THEIR BUDGETS UP AND HOW THEY'RE WORKED UP AND HOW IT GETS TO GETS TO THE COUNCIL.

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AND SO I FOR ONE, WOULD BE VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING IF WE COULD DO THAT PROCESS EVERY TWO YEARS INSTEAD OF EVERY ONE YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN HOURLY ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH TIME IS SPENT ON PREPARING A BUDGET FOR THE CITY.

BUT I WOULD BE REALLY MINIMIZING IT IF I SAID 1000 HOURS.

I THINK ALL OVER, ALL TOLD EVERYBODY IN OVER THE COURSE OF SIX MONTHS TO GET THAT BUDGET UP TO US.

AND SO IF WE CAN DO IT EVERY TWO YEARS AND MAYBE SAVE HALF OF THAT TIME ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SMART MOVE TO DO.

SO. WE'RE NOT JUST SPENDING SO MANY HOURS TO DO OUR BUDGET.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S A MID-YEAR REVIEW IN AND A OFF BUDGET CYCLE REVIEW ON THE SECOND YEAR.

AND I KNOW MANY MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING TWO YEAR BUDGET CYCLES, AND I THINK THE MAIN REASON IS BECAUSE IT IS A VERY COSTLY ENDEAVOR TO GO THROUGH AN ANNUAL BUDGET AND PUT IT TOGETHER WITH A LOT OF HOURS TOGETHER BY ALL STAFF MEMBERS TO GET IT THERE.

SO JUST JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I PERSONALLY THINK WOULD BE A GOOD DIRECTION FOR THIS CITY TO DO IN THE FUTURE.

YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THE THE LAST 15 YEAR CHART THERE, APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS, AND I SEE TWO MAJOR EPISODES THAT ARE ONE UNPRECEDENTED AND ONE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION, WHICH WAS THE LARGEST RECESSION SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

AND THE OTHER IS IS IS A PANDEMIC THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN 100 YEARS.

AND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS YEAR OVER YEAR, ON A BUDGET BASIS, I AM INCREDIBLY THANKFUL HOW THIS CITY MANAGED AND PIVOTED DURING THOSE TIMES.

I'LL NOTE THAT THE BUDGET YEARS WERE 2008, 2009, AND I BUILT MY HOUSE IN 2005 AND THE WARNING SIGNS WERE ALREADY ON THE WALL IN 2005, AND WE KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. BUT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DO REALLY GOOD WHEN WE LOOK IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR IN TERMS OF KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT PROGNOSTICATING A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS A REALLY RISKY BUSINESS.

AND MAYOR, I SUPPOSE IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS, YOU AND I WILL ENJOY A GLASS OF WINE AND FIND OUT HOW IT WENT.

I MEAN, NEITHER ONE OF US KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO GO, BUT I KNOW THIS CITY HAS.

DEMONSTRATED COMPETENCY IN PIVOTING DURING THE TWO LARGEST EVENTS IN IN MANY, MANY DECADES AND HAS DONE SO VERY WELL.

AND WE HAVE COME OUT OF THAT ON TOP WITH A MUCH BIGGER RESERVE THAN OUR COUNCIL POLICY ASK US TO HAVE.

SO THAT DOESN'T CONCERN ME.

I'M VERY COMFORTABLE THERE.

AND IF, IF OUR NUMBERS ARE GREAT TO T PRIMARILY, AS YOU MENTIONED, SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE IF THE NUMBERS AREN'T SO GREAT.

WE'LL PIVOT AND WE'LL DEAL WITH IT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST GENERAL FUND MONEY IN OUR RESERVES COMING FORWARD, BUT IT'S OPERATIONAL CHANGES AS WELL TO HELP US SAVE MONEY.

WHETHER THAT'S NOT FILLING POSITIONS THAT ARE TO BE FILLED, WHETHER IT'S CUTTING BACK, DELAYING OR ELONGATING SOME CIP PROJECTS, WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT.

WHAT DOES GIVE ME HEARTBURN, THOUGH, IS THAT WE HAVE A CITY THAT IS VERY, VERY WEALTHY IN TERMS OF OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO.

AND I THINK IT'S OVER $800 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO.

AND AS I TAKE A LOOK AT THAT INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO IN TERMS OF COST OF GOODS, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS? I TAKE A LOOK IN TERMS OF INFLATION AS WELL.

AND I THINK OUR PURCHASING POWER, OUR REAL PURCHASING POWER OF THAT MONEY HAS PROBABLY DECLINED BY 30%, IF NOT MORE PRIMARILY FROM THOSE TWO FACTORS, WHAT IT COSTS TO GET A PROJECT DONE AND INCLUDING LABOR AND MATERIALS COST AND THEN WITH INFLATION.

AND I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FEW YEARS OF INFLATION A LOT, YOU KNOW, AT THE LEAST.

SO THIS MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN THE BANK, SO TO SPEAK, TO COMPLETE AND THAT MONEY IS GENERALLY ALLOCATED, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT IS FOR PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE TIMELINES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AS THINGS AGE.

AND MY FEAR IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THOSE PROJECTS.

MY FEAR IS THAT MONEY IS DEVALUING SO QUICKLY THAT IT'S KIND OF PURCHASING POWER.

TODAY IS PROBABLY 70% OF WHAT IT WAS TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.

AND THAT CONCERNS ME LONG TERM IN TERMS OF THE HEALTH AND MAINTENANCE OF THIS CITY.

SO I AM SUPER CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL ADJUST YEAR TO YEAR ON BUDGETS.

I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PURCHASING POWER OF THAT MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN THE BANK TO CONSTRUCT WHAT WE THINK IT WILL CONSTRUCT.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST THIS YEAR, I THINK WE'VE HEARD ON TWO OR THREE OCCASIONS PROJECTS COME BEFORE US AND IT'S BEEN A 30% UPCHARGE, A 50% UPCHARGE DOUBLE WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD COST 100% UPCHARGE TO GET THE PROJECT TO THE FINISH LINE BECAUSE THE MONEY JUST ISN'T BUYING WHAT IT USED TO BUY.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AGAIN, I JUST LIKE TO TO HAVE THIS CITY CONSIDER A TWO YEAR BUDGET PROJECT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A WISE SAVINGS OF A LOT OF HOURS OF STAFF.

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ACOSTA. YES, I'LL TRY TO KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF.

I SPOKE QUITE A BIT DURING THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT THE FIRST TIME.

AND AND I THINK THAT I SHARED WITH YOU MY GRATITUDE TO STAFF, TO THE ENTIRE TEAM AT THE CITY, AND ALSO TO COUNCIL FOR BEING SO SERIOUS ABOUT THIS PROCESS, THIS VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS.

AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN A HISTORICALLY CHALLENGING TIME WITH THE PANDEMIC, AND WE'VE HAD TO NOT JUST PIVOT, BUT I WAS WRITING SOME WORDS DOWN.

THESE ARE WORDS THAT ARE TYPICALLY NOT ASSOCIATED WITH GOVERNMENT.

WE'VE HAD TO BE NIMBLE, FLEXIBLE, ADAPTABLE AND RESILIENT.

AND WE HAVE BEEN ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

AND I'M SO PROUD OF OUR CITY FOR ADAPTING THE WAY THAT WE HAVE.

AND WE'VE SEEN WHERE THE REVENUE IS COMING IN.

AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN CONTROL OF THINGS LIKE TOURISM, THE TOURISM INDUSTRY, AND SO MUCH OF THAT IS AFFECTED BY THE BIGGER KIND OF MACROECONOMIC PICTURE SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING.

BUT AS WE LOOK AT THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND THIS IS WHY WE KEPT TALKING ABOUT THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST AND BEYOND IT, THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE BUDGET, WE CAN SEE WE CAN SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL.

WE SEE THE INFLATION.

I THINK YOU JUST SAID THAT THAT CPI WAS 8.4% RIGHT NOW.

INFLATION WAS AT 8.4%.

IT'S, AGAIN, WE'RE ENTERING ANOTHER VERY CHALLENGING TIME.

AND EVEN AS WE EMERGE FROM THE THE STAY AT HOME PART OF THE PANDEMIC, WE'RE STILL KIND OF IN A PANDEMIC TYPE SITUATION WITH THE ENDEMIC, YOU KNOW, NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING, TOGGLING ON AND OFF WITH SOME OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS.

AND THAT MAY AFFECT, AGAIN, OUR TOT AND TRAVEL GROUP TRAVEL CONFERENCES AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO JUST KIND OF TRYING TO BE ALL THOSE THINGS NIMBLE, FLEXIBLE, ADAPTABLE AND RESILIENT.

WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO BE LIKE THAT.

WE'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AND I'M SUPER PROUD OF OUR CITY FOR DOING THAT AND TAKING THIS PROCESS SO SERIOUSLY WITH SUCH CAREFUL THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION.

SO THANK YOU.

I TAKE MY JOB VERY SERIOUSLY TOO, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR YOUR HARD.

GOOD WORK, AND I'M VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU. MR. BLACKBURN, I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

MAYOR ASKED FOR YOU TO PUT UP SOME SLIDES, BUT BEFORE YOU PUT THOSE UP, THE SLIDE YOU HAVE UP HERE NOW SHOWS WHAT OUR POLICY IS FOR RESERVES.

THEN IT SHOWS WHAT WE HAVE IN RESERVES.

DID THAT INCLUDE THE CONTINGENCY RESERVES OF 19 PLUS MILLION? THAT DOES NOT. SO YOU'D ADD 19 PLUS MILLION TO THAT.

SO GOING BACK TO THE MAYOR'S SLIDES, IT SHOWED PERCENTAGES IN WORST CASE SCENARIOS, LOOKING AT JUST THE PAST OF THE PAST RECESSION.

WELL, WHAT WAS IT? 090809 AREA.

YOU HAD PERCENTAGES.

CAN YOU TRANSLATE THOSE JUST ROUGHLY INTO DOLLARS AND CENTS? AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO TO COME UP WITH.

I'LL JUST GIVE YOU SOME OF MY THOUGHTS AND MY REASONING SO MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH WITH THE NUMBERS.

I'M SITTING BEHIND SOMEBODY WHO'S VERY CONSERVATIVE, AND I TEND TO PERSONALLY LEAN IN THAT DIRECTION.

I'M ALSO SITTING BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY OPTIMISTIC, AND I'M TRYING TO FIND THAT MIDDLE GROUND WHERE I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE BUDGET WITHOUT COMPROMISING OUR SERVICES OR REDUCING ANY OF OUR SERVICES.

AND ONE OF THE I JUST JOTTED DOWN A THOUGHT WAS.

I DON'T WANT OUR CITY TO SUFFER THE PAIN AND ANTICIPATION OF A POSSIBLE RECESSION.

I'D RATHER WAIT TO SEE THAT WE'RE HAVING A RECESSION AND THEN HAVE THE PAIN AS A RESPONSE TO THAT INJURY RATHER THAN HAVING THE PAIN BEFORE WE EVEN HAVE THE INJURY.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WHERE I'M TRYING TO LEAD WITH THIS IS.

IF THE MAYOR IS CORRECT AND WE GO THROUGH ANOTHER GREAT RECESSION AND WE TAKE THOSE PERCENTAGES AND JUST MOVE THEM OVER TO MAYBE THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WHAT DOLLAR AND CENTS NUMBER DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO RATHER THAN A PERCENTAGE? SO SPECIFICALLY, THE 4.8 AND THE 3.6% THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCED IN FISCAL YEAR 09, FISCAL YEAR 10, IF WE APPLY THAT TO THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THAT WOULD TRANSLATE TO APPROXIMATELY 15 $16 MILLION IN TOTAL.

OKAY. AND SO THAT WOULD COME OFF OF THE.

THE 19 MILLION PLUS OF CONTINGENCY RESERVES OR JUST GENERAL FUND RESERVES, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO USE THAT MONEY FROM? CORRECT. WE WOULD BRING BACK OPTIONS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH COVID.

BUILDING THE 2021 BUDGET.

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I THINK THAT YEAR WE ENDED UP WITH LIKE 12 MILLION.

AND THAT'S HOW MUCH WE HAD TO PIVOT BACK AND DIAL BACK AND BRING COUNCIL OPTIONS.

AND COUNCIL DECIDED THAT YEAR TO NOT SHIFT THE INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY.

SO TYPICALLY OUR 6% OFF OF THE TOP OF OUR REVENUE EVERY YEAR GOES TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS, AND THAT'S ROUGHLY 12 TO $13000.

SO IN THE YEAR OF COVID, WHEN WE HAD THAT, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIG HIT, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WHEN WE BROUGHT THE BUDGET FOR 2021.

HOWEVER, AT THE END OF 2021, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD MADE THAT MONEY BACK UP AND WE ACTUALLY USED THE SURPLUS, SOME OF THE SURPLUS TO REPLENISH THOSE.

SO AND THAT'S PART OF AGAIN, BEING PROACTIVE, A LITTLE BIT OF REACTIVE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHERE WE CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AROUND.

YEAH. PIVOT'S KIND OF A GOOD WORD.

I MEAN, NO ONE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE TAKING SUCH A HIT OF THAT TYPE OF MAGNITUDE IN BUILDING THE BUDGET FOR THAT YEAR, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WERE DUE TO HIT RECORD REVENUES IN BUILDING THAT, YOU KNOW, BUDGET.

SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE.

AND LIKE ZACH SAID, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A NO ORDER, BUT I THINK THAT CARLSBAD HAS BEEN SO WELL RUN AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CONTINGENCY MONEY.

WE WE DO SHIFT MONEY TO INFRASTRUCTURES.

WE WE MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.

AND THAT'S OUR JOB AS STAFF TO BRING THOSE DECISIONS TO COUNCIL WITH OUR BEST RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKE MAKE THE DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD. AND WHEN YOU DO OUR BUDGET, YOU DO IT VERY CONSERVATIVELY.

YOU'D RATHER HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY AT THE END THAN NOT ENOUGH MONEY AT THE END.

SO JUST GOING BACK TO MY QUESTION, CLEARLY NONE OF US CAN SEE INTO THE FUTURE.

IF I COULD SEE INTO THE FUTURE, I'D BE WAY TOO RICH TO BE SITTING HERE TALKING TO YOU RIGHT NOW.

SO I MY THOUGHT IS, IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO FALLS BACK TO WHAT WE HAD IN 08-09 AND OH 9-10, YOU SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAP OUR RESERVES BY YOU SAID 20 MILLION, 15 TO 16 MILLION.

OH, SO LET'S JUST SHOOT UP HIGH.

BE CONSERVATIVE SINCE WE'RE ALREADY CONSERVATIVE.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 MILLION.

WE WOULD HAVE TO TAP THEM, WHICH WOULD STILL LEAVE US WITH OVER 115 MILLION IN RESERVES.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S MAYOR PRO TEM.

THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, THOUGH, JUST LIKE WITH THE SITUATION IN COVE THAT COVID EFFECTIVELY HAPPENED.

YES. THERE WAS A TALE THAT WE WE HAD THERE WAS AT LEAST IDENTIFIED IN DECEMBER THAT WE WERE TRACKING.

BUT ULTIMATELY, WHEN EVERYTHING GOT SHUT DOWN IN MARCH, WE FROZE THE BUDGET CYCLE.

AND THEN YOU'LL NOTICE THAT EVEN IN WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED, AGAIN, WE WE SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN.

NOW, THAT SAID, THERE ARE CERTAIN STRATEGIES THAT, YES, WE DO HAVE A CONTINGENCY FUND THAT'S FAIRLY ROBUST AND IT'S DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR A SITUATION LIKE THIS.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO THE BIGGEST LABOR OR THE BIGGEST DRIVER OR COST IN CREATING A BUDGET ARE YOUR LABOR COSTS.

SO WE DO HAVE AN ABILITY TO CONTROL THAT, WHETHER IF AN EMPLOYEE THERE ARE ALWAYS VACANCIES THAT OCCUR, WE CAN END UP SLOWING OUR HIRING PROCESS.

WE CAN DO A HIRING FREEZE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN REPLICATE FROM THAT 2008-2009 TIME FRAME.

BECAUSE AGAIN, THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT TO DO IS LAY ANYONE OFF.

HOWEVER, WE'RE ALSO EXCEPTIONALLY SENSITIVE TO CHANGING IN MARKET CONDITIONS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE DO HAVE A A CONTRACT OF FINANCIAL ADVISORS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY PROVIDING US INFORMATION ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

BUT IN ADDITION, WE'RE CLOSELY MONITORING THIS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE SIGNS AND SIGNALS AND IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A REQUIRED NEED TO PIVOT, COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY BE THE FIRST TO KNOW AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU TO MAKE ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS IF NECESSARY.

BUT THAT SAID, WE DO THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROL FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THAT WE DON'T GET TO A DANGEROUSLY PRECARIOUS SITUATION.

OKAY. AFTER LISTENING TO THE CONSERVATIVE OUTLOOK OF OF OUR BUDGET UNDERSTANDING, IN WORST CASE SCENARIO, HOW MUCH OF THE RESERVES WE WOULD HAVE TO USE AND HOW MUCH WE WOULD STILL HAVE LEFT OVER AFTER LISTENING TO CITY MANAGER'S EXPLANATION OF THE ABILITY TO FLEX IF THERE WERE AN EMERGENCY. I PERSONALLY I LEAN MUCH MORE CONSERVATIVELY TOWARD THE MAYOR'S SIDE.

BUT AFTER LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH VOTING YES ON THIS BUDGET.

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THE BUDGET OF TODAY IS A BUDGET GOING FORWARD THAT WILL BE REACTIVE.

THE BUDGET IN 07-08 WAS PROACTIVE.

WE STARTED SHUTTING THINGS DOWN IN 08, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE GOING INTO AND WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW BAD IT TIMES WERE, BUT WE UNDERSTOOD THEY WERE GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TIMES TO PUT THAT IN CLEAR PERSPECTIVE.

AT THAT SAME TIME WE WANTED TO BUILD ALGA NORTE SWIM COMPLEX.

IT WAS A $50 MILLION PROJECT.

WE HAD THE MONEY IN THE BANK TO BUILD IT, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO OPERATE IT.

MR. BLACKBURN AND I, IT WAS ACTUALLY A POLITICAL QUESTION AT THE TIME.

I SAID PAUSE.

HE SAID, USE RESERVES TO GO AHEAD AND FINANCE BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WANTED THAT POOL AND THEY WANTED IT NOW.

BUT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO USE RESERVES TO PAY FOR IT WHEN THE SMOKE.

IT WAS THE $37 MILLION POOL.

THAT'S HOW MUCH CHEAPER WE BUILT IT BY HITTING THE PAUSE BUTTON.

AND JUST LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, 15 TO 20 MILLION.

IT'S THE MONROE POOL.

SO YOU CAN LOOK IN MAKE TIME, EVEN DIFFICULT TIMES WORK IN YOUR BENEFIT BY TAKING A VERY CONSERVATIVE AND PAUSE APPROACH. AND I CAN GIVE OTHER EXAMPLES IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO IT.

BUT ONCE YOU'VE COMMITTED, AS MR. NORBY SAID, THAT IT COSTS TO PIVOT.

THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO THERE IS A PIVOT COST AND THAT DEALS WITH TIME AND HOW QUICK YOU PULL THE TRIGGER.

IT'S REALLY THAT SIMPLE.

SO I REALIZE TONIGHT THAT I'M ON A DIFFERENT POINT OF IT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO BE HONEST WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITIZENS.

IT'S YOUR MONEY, NOT OURS.

IT'S JUST REALLY A QUESTION OF WHEN WE CHOOSE TO SPEND IT.

SO WITH THAT, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR MOTION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK POINT.

I'M GOING TO DEFEND MYSELF QUICKLY.

I DID NOT SAY I WANTED TO USE RESERVES FOR THE ELGIN, NOR TO PULL THE ARGUMENT WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. NORBY IS SAYING.

MY ARGUMENT THEN WAS DURING THE RECESSION WE COULD BUILD THE POOL FOR SO MANY MORE, MILLIONS LESS THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED, AND THEN THAT EXTRA MONEY THAT WE SAVED COULD HAVE GONE TEN YEARS INTO THE FUTURE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND RUNNING.

AND THAT WAS THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT.

IT WAS NOT TO USE ANY RESERVES.

SO I DO SIDE A LITTLE BIT WITH MR. NORBY WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT USE THE MONEY WHEN THE MONEY IS THE THE, THE, THE, THE CHEAPEST COST TO BUILD THINGS.

DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE ECONOMY IS GOOD AND EVERYBODY'S WORKING AGAIN.

AND THEN IT'S HARD TO FIND LABOR AND IT'S HARD TO FIND SUPPLIES.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORD IS ACCURATE ON WHAT MY ARGUMENT WAS BACK THEN AND WITH THAT SAID, I MAY I MAKE THE THE MOTION ON ALL 11 ITEMS AT ONCE, OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM ALL ONE AT A TIME? THE MAYOR IS ABLE TO VOTE ON ALL OF THEM.

SO IT'S OKAY TO DO ALL AT ONE TIME.

OK MOVE ADOPTION OF ALL 11.

MOVE ADOPTION OF ALL 11 RESOLUTIONS CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

OOPS. SORRY I SCREWED UP.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

I'M SORRY. NO, WE'RE GOOD.

NO, IT ISN'T GOING TO GO THAT WAY.

IT'S FOR ONE.

YES, PLEASE.

SEE, I'M SO USED TO VOTING WITH EVERYBODY, SO IT'S.

SO IT PASSES 4-1, NOTING ALL THE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS.

SO WITH THAT.

AND, MAYOR, BEFORE WE GO ON, I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK THE BUDGET TEAM AND EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED, LED BY LAURA AND ZACH AND BRIDGET AND JEREMY. YOU DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB IN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.

BUT OUR ENTIRE MANAGEMENT TEAM, STARTING WITH OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM ALL THE WAY DOWN, JUST REALLY PUT THEIR HEART AND SOUL IN TRYING TO FASHION A BUDGET THAT MET COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.

SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING OVER THIS, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE PROOF'S IN THE PUDDING AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. OK GOING ON TO DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS ITEM EIGHT OPTION TO AMEND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN

[8. OPTIONS TO AMEND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHARTER]

AND MR. CHADWICK, IF YOU COULD MAKE INTRODUCTIONS.

YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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GOOD EVENING. I WILL START WITH A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION.

FIRST, I'LL GIVE THE HISTORY OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEN I'LL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE OPTIONS.

A MAIN GOAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021 2022 IS TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO CREATE A NEW PLAN TO MANAGE GROWTH IN CARLSBAD IN A WAY THAT MAINTAINS AN EXCELLENT QUALITY OF LIFE.

ON SEPTEMBER 28, 2021, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE CHARTER FOR THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT STAFF GO TO THE NINE REPRESENTED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND SUBMIT THOSE NOMINATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A PERIOD OF 30 DAYS, WHILE THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND AT-LARGE SEATS WERE FILLED.

THROUGH THE FALL, STAFF PRESENTED TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AT MEETINGS TO RECEIVE THE NOMINATIONS FOR PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE MEMBERS.

IN JANUARY 2022, THE NOTICE OF VACANCY FOR THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES WAS POSTED, AND ON MARCH 8, 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED MEMBERS TO THE COMMITTEE. SINCE THAT TIME, THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD THREE MEETINGS AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL MEET EIGHT MORE TIMES BEFORE REPORTING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN A FUTURE PLAN TO UPDATE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

ADDITIONALLY, AT THE SECOND AND THIRD MEETING, THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED AND DECIDED TO REBRAND WITH A NEW NAME BY CONSENSUS.

CARLSBAD. TOMORROW, THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT CITIZENS COMMITTEE.

TO ENSURE BALANCED REPRESENTATION OF COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVES.

THE COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF 19 PRIMARY MEMBERS AND 19 ALTERNATE MEMBERS.

THE CITY'S EXISTING COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS ADDRESS TOPICS THAT IMPACT QUALITY OF LIFE.

THEREFORE, EACH WERE ASKED TO NOMINATE ONE PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE MEMBER, AND THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE CHOSEN FROM EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT AND MEMBERS AT LARGE.

FROM THE NINE MEMBERS AND ALTERNATES THAT REPRESENT THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

ONE THING THAT WAS NOT CLEAR IN THE CHARTER IS WHAT OCCURS WHEN A TERM EXPIRES.

THERE ARE SIX TERMS THAT EXPIRE BEFORE MARCH 2023, AND ONE OF THE MEMBERS WHO IS A PRIMARY REPRESENTATIVE, MR. BRIGGS, HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN REMAINING ON THE COMMITTEE BEYOND WHEN HIS TERM EXPIRES THIS MONTH.

THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION IS NOT ANTICIPATED IN THE CHARTER, WHICH ONLY OUTLINES WHAT OCCURS WHEN A MEMBER RESIGNS, WHERE THEIR ALTERNATE IS GIVEN THE OPTION TO MOVE INTO THE PRIMARY SEAT.

THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO PROVIDE POLICY DIRECTION ON THIS ISSUE.

THE FIRST OPTION IS TO AMEND THE CHARTER TO ALLOW APPOINTED BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS TO STAY ON THE COMMITTEE FOR THE DURATION OF THE COMMITTEE'S WORK.

THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR CONTINUITY IN THE PROCESS.

A RESOLUTION AND DRAFT CHARTER AMENDMENT IS INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT ONE TO THIS STAFF REPORT.

THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO NOT MAKE A CHANGE TO THE CHARTER.

THEREFORE, IF A MEMBER'S TERM EXPIRES AND THEY ARE EITHER NOT REAPPOINTED NOR OR ELIGIBLE FOR REAPPOINTMENT, THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.

THERE ARE TWO PROPOSED ACTIONS.

FIRST, TO RECEIVE THIS PRESENTATION AND THE SECOND ACTION, IF DETERMINED APPROPRIATE, IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AND AMEND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHARTER. THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

SPEAKERS. WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER, FRED BRIGGS.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS FRED BRIGGS, AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE IN DISTRICT ONE FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS.

THE SUDDEN TERMINATION OF MY PARTICIPATION ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE CAME AS A COMPLETE SURPRISE TO ME.

IT IS TRUE THAT A TIME OUT IN JUNE, AFTER SERVING EIGHT YEARS ON THE BEACH PRESERVATION COMMISSION, I HAD ASSUMED THAT APPOINTMENT TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE WAS INDEPENDENT, AND FOR THE DURATION OF THAT COMMITTEE'S ACTIVITIES, THERE WAS NEVER ANY DISCUSSION OTHERWISE. AFTER HAVING ALREADY COMPLETED THREE MONTHS OF GROUP PREPARATORY EFFORT, I HAVE A STRONG DESIRE TO CONTINUE. I BELIEVE THIS ISSUE WAS AN OVERSIGHT WHILE SETTING UP THE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE CHARTER.

THE CITY'S POLICY RATIONALE ADDRESSES COMMISSION ACTIVITIES WHILE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT GROUP IS AN INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE WITH NO ATTACHMENT TO ANY

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CONVERSATIONAL RESPONSE MAKES IT PLAIN THAT THERE WAS NO INTENTION FOR APPOINTMENTS TO BE OTHER THAN FOR THE FULL DURATION OF THE COMMITTEE'S DURATION.

THIS ISSUE POSES A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM FOR THE FUNCTIONING OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE.

THERE ARE FIVE OTHER CURRENTLY APPOINTED PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE MEMBERS WHOSE CURRENT COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS ELAPSE DURING THE LONG DURATION OF THE COMMITTEE. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THESE FIVE OTHERS WILL ALSO TIME OUT AFTER MAKING A SUBSTANTIAL PERSONAL INVESTMENT.

BUT PRIOR TO COMPLETING THE COMMITTEE'S ACTIVITIES.

I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNCIL ADDRESS THE DISCREPANCY, CLARIFY THE MEMBERSHIP APPOINTMENTS, AND RESTORE THE FULL DURATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.

FOR OVER TEN YEARS NOW, I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF TO ENCOURAGE CIVIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR OUR BEACHES AND BEACHFRONT AREAS.

I BELIEVE THAT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE OFFERS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY THAT'S COME ALONG YET TO DEFINE OPINION FROM OUR RESIDENTS ON WHAT THEY WISH CARLSBAD TO LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

I REGARD MY MY APPOINTMENT TO THIS COMMITTEE AS A MEANINGFUL FINAL CONTRIBUTION AND WISH TO CONTINUE TO SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE COMMITTEE'S RESPONSIBILITIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS, MAYOR.

QUESTIONS? DR.

? YES, JUST A COUPLE.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST REALLY QUICKLY.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SIX TOTAL FOLKS THAT THIS PARTICULAR THE CHARTER IMPACTS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. AND SO SO THOSE MEMBERS WHO WERE CHOSEN, THEY ARE MEMBERS FROM COMMITTEES AND ARE NOT THE MEMBERS THAT WE CHOSE FROM THE FOUR RESIDENTS OR THE FOUR AT-LARGE RESIDENTS.

CORRECT. THOSE ARE ONLY THE BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.

OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF IF THAT INDIVIDUAL'S TERM DOES EXPIRE DURING THAT AND LET'S JUST SAY WE WERE TO HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, OPTION ONE, FOR INSTANCE, WOULD THIS PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL STILL BE REPRESENTING THE VIEWS OF THE COMMITTEE? I WOULD ASSUME THE REASON WHY WE'VE CHOSEN THESE FOLKS IS SO THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING PERSPECTIVES BASED ON THEIR COMMITTEE.

OUR ASSUMPTION IS THEY'RE PROVIDING PERSPECTIVE BASED ON THEIR COMMITTEE.

MANY MEMBERS DO REPORT BACK TO THEIR COMMITTEE ON THE ACTIVITIES OF THAT.

BUT IF THEY WERE REPRESENTED BEYOND THE TERM, THEY WOULDN'T BE DIRECTLY REPRESENTING THAT COMMITTEE.

SO MY QUESTION FOLLOWING THAT WOULD BE HOW WE WOULD HANDLE THAT THEN, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE ASSUMING THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE REPORTING BACK TO THOSE COMMITTEES OR BRINGING BACK THOUGHTS FROM THOSE COMMITTEES.

AND I, I UNDERSTAND AND I'M HAPPY TO DO IT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE HEARTBURN WITH REGARDS TO HAVING TO GO BACK AND TELL SIX, SIX TOTAL PEOPLE THAT THEY NOW CANNOT SERVE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMITTEES STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO HEAR BACK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON FROM THAT PARTICULAR MEMBER THAT WAS CHOSEN TO SERVE AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMISSION, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THEM AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.

SO WE'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN TWO FASHIONS.

ONE, THERE IS STILL AN ALTERNATE MEMBER FOR THAT COMMITTEE.

WE ARE FULLY ENCOURAGING THE ALTERNATES TO ATTEND ALL MEETINGS AND PARTICIPATE AT THOSE MEETINGS AND AND REPORT BACK AS WELL TO THEIR COMMITTEES.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO, IF ANY COMMITTEE WAS INTERESTED, WOULD BE WILLING TO GO TO THEM AND AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE COMMITTEE ACTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

MR. NORBY? THANK YOU. SO WHEN I FIRST FOUND OUT, I THINK IT WAS AN EMAIL ADDRESS TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND WHEN I FIRST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, I MEAN, MY PRINCIPAL, I GUESS THOUGHTS WERE IF THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS AND THEY WERE TOLD ABOUT THIS AND THEY KNEW THIS COULD BE A RESULT, THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, TOO BAD KIND OF THING.

YOU KNEW ABOUT IT. YOU STILL WENT FORWARD BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THE SIX INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE REPRESENTING COMMITTEES ARE TERMED OUT IN TERMS OF THEIR TERMS, BUT THEIR TERM IS COMING UP.

AND SO THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE APPOINTED.

I THINK I THINK I HEARD THAT ONE PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT TO CONTINUE IN THE TERM IN THE COMMISSION THAT THEY'RE ON, BUT WANTS TO CONTINUE ON THIS. SO THERE'S LIKE SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT THAT ARE AT PLAY HERE, BUT THEY ALL GO BACK TO THE VERY KIND OF INITIAL THAT OUR POLICY

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AND I KNOW MYSELF AS A COUNCIL PERSON WHEN I WAS CONSIDERING WHO AM I REPRESENT DISTRICT ONE, I GUESS MY APPOINTEES WOULD BE MY NUMBER ONE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU SERVE FOR 15 OR 16 MONTHS? DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF LIFE CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN REQUIRING YOU TO MOVE OR A DESIRE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE THAT WILL CAUSE YOU TO LEAVE MIDTERM? I MEAN, MY FOCUS WAS COMPLETELY ON PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE COMMIT TO THIS PROCESS FOR 15 OR 16 MONTHS AS A CITIZEN.

AND SO I WOULD SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS I GUESS I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS THIS, THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS DID NOT KNOW THAT THIS WAS THE CASE, THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE INDIVIDUAL.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF ACCURATE.

AND I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSING SOMETHING THAT.

NO, THEY KNEW IT'S IN THE CHARTER.

WE GAVE THEM A PIECE OF PAPER.

WE INFORMED THEM OF IT THAT NONE OF THAT NONE OF THAT HAPPENED.

IT'S JUST WE DIDN'T EXPECT THIS.

IT IS ACCURATE THAT WE DIDN'T EXPECT THIS.

OKAY. AND SO I DO HAVE COMMENTS AND I GUESS I'LL SAVE THOSE FOR OTHERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS, THEN I'LL GO AFTER.

QUESTIONS? MR. BLACKBURN? SO IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE.

LET'S JUST USE MR. BRIGGS AS THE EXAMPLE ONCE HE'S OFF THE SHORELINE PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, AND IF HE WERE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE HERE, IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE FOR US TO ASK HIM TO REPORT BACK TO THE SHORELINE PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND GET THEIR INPUT FOR WHAT HE SHOULD TAKE BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE.

IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT WOULDN'T BE UNREASONABLE AS WELL AS HE HAS AN ALTERNATE WHO'S ALSO BEEN ATTENDING ALL THE MEETINGS.

SO THAT INDIVIDUAL COULD ALSO REPORT BACK TO THAT COMMITTEE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMENTS, MR. NORBY. THANK YOU.

AND SO DO YOU HAVE ALTERNATIVE ONE UP THERE IN TERMS OF THE THE LANGUAGE CHANGE TO THE POLICY? BECAUSE I AGREED WITH THE LANGUAGE CHANGE TO THE POLICY WITH ONE OMISSION THAT MR. BLACKBURN, MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN HAS POINTED OUT.

AND THAT IS I DO THINK IF THIS COUNCIL CHOOSES OPTION ONE.

AND AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN ALSO IS THAT, WELL, THERE'S A COMMISSION THAT WENT THROUGH SOME PROCESS AND SELECTED AN INDIVIDUAL.

AND IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE'RE KIND OF DISENFRANCHISING THAT COMMISSION'S VOTE ON THAT PERSON.

AND THEN THIS PERSON ACCEPTED FREELY THE OBLIGATION KNOWING IT WAS GOING TO BE 15 OR 16 MONTHS.

AND WE'RE KIND OF DISENFRANCHISING THAT.

AND THAT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM TO ME THAN CHANGING OUR POLICY.

BUT YOU HAVE THE POLICY LANGUAGE UP THERE FOR OPTION ONE.

I READ IT IN MY STAFF REPORT.

I LOOKED AT IT AND THERE IS AN OMISSION.

AND THE OMISSION IS SIMPLY THAT I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT AT THE AT THE THE COMMISSION THAT THEY REPRESENT AT THEIR REQUEST THAT THEY BE THAT THEY BE AVAILABLE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THAT COMMISSION, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN THE LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW.

SO I THINK THAT THEY HAVE THEY RECEDED WITH AN OBLIGATION TO LIAISON WITH THAT COMMISSION, AND THEY SHOULD CONTINUE WITH THAT OBLIGATION TO LIAISON WITH THAT COMMISSION, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT PART OF THAT COMMISSION.

CITY ATTORNEY.

DO YOU WANT TO HELP US PUT THAT IN? YEAH, I CAN. IF THEY DON'T HAVE A SLIDE, I CAN READ THE LANGUAGE THAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS.

IF A COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT WAS APPOINTED TO REPRESENT ONE OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAS A TERM THAT CONCLUDES PRIOR TO THE COMMITTEE COMPLETING ITS WORK, THE MEMBERS ARE ALLOWED TO REMAIN ON THE COMMITTEE UNTIL THE WORK CONCLUDES, BUT MUST REPORT BACK TO THE.

REPRESENTATIVE BOARD AND COMMISSION AT THE REPRESENTATIVE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS REQUEST.

THAT'S THE PART THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD I THINK SHOULD BE ADDED.

YES. OKAY.

COMMENT COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU TO COMMITTEE MEMBER BRIGGS FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE TO OUR ATTENTION.

I ALSO LIKE COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.

WHEN I MADE MY APPOINTMENT, I WAS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE COMMITMENT.

I TALKED TO, I HAD A LOT OF APPLICANTS FROM DISTRICT FOUR AND EVERYBODY THAT I SPOKE TO HAD TO KIND OF EXPRESS THEIR COMMITMENT TO TO BEING AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE DURATION.

AND WE WERE REALLY CLEAR UP FRONT ABOUT THE TIME COMMITMENT AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AT THE COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE LEVEL WHERE THERE WAS SOME KIND OF DISCONNECT ABOUT THIS.

BUT I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO DISENFRANCHISE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT SIGNED UP AND WERE WILLING TO BE A VOLUNTEER FOR THIS REALLY IMPORTANT WORK.

SO I THINK THAT GOING WITH OPTION ONE, WHERE WE FIND A WAY TO KEEP THESE PEOPLE WHO'VE SIGNED UP FOR THIS AND WHO WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS AND ARE DEDICATED TO OUR CITY AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMMISSIONER COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO I SUPPORT OPTION ONE.

I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT ASKING THEM OR REQUIRING THEM TO REPORT BACK TO THEIR COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION UPON THE COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION'S REQUEST.

THANK YOU. YES, DOCTOR? SURE. THANK YOU. AND I'M ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION ONE WITH MANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED, JUST MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO SERVE SINCE

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AND THEN ALSO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO INCORPORATING THAT AD, I KNOW I HAD QUESTIONS AROUND IT, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING BACK TO THOSE PARTICULAR COMMISSIONS AND REPORTING BACK AND JUST LISTENING TO FEEDBACK TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.

SO I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION ONE AS WELL.

IT WAS A SIMPLE OVERSIGHT.

I AGREE WITH THE NECESSITY FOR THE CONTINUITY.

SO MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE OPTION ONE, WITH THE ADDITION OF ADDING THAT THE MEMBER WILL REPORT TO AND REPRESENT INPUT FROM THEIR ORIGINAL COMMITTEE.

SECOND. OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NINE DEBIT MANAGEMENT POLICY.

[9. DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY]

THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

ZACH KORACH, FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY.

AND THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE CONSIDERATION OF A DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY.

NOW TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL BE BRIEF.

WE'LL BE COVERING THE BACKGROUND OF THE ITEM, REVIEWING THE POLICY STATEMENT, AND THEN CONCLUDING WITH THE PROPOSED OR RECOMMENDED ACTION.

NOW, AS OF 2017, MUNICIPALITIES ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT NEW DEBT ISSUANCES TO THE CALIFORNIA DEBT AND INVESTMENT ADVISORY COMMISSION OR THE CDC, AND ADOPT A LOCAL DEBT POLICY.

NOW, DEBT POLICIES ARE IMPORTANT TOOLS TO INCREASE GOVERNANCE, AS WELL AS TRANSPARENCY OVER DEBT ACTIVITIES.

THIS IS ONLY COMING UP NOW BECAUSE THE CITY HAS NOT SINCE NEEDED TO TRANSACT IN A DEBT CAPACITY.

THE CITY DOES HAVE ASSESSMENT DEBT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE POINSETTIA LAYING EAST COLLEGE BOULEVARD IN TALAVERA HILLS.

THAT WAS LAST REFUNDED OR REFINANCED IN 2012.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE $22 MILLION IN OUTSTANDING BONDS THAT WILL BECOME CALLABLE IN SEPTEMBER LATER THIS YEAR.

STAFF ARE PURSUING ANOTHER REFUNDING WITH THE ULTIMATE INTENT OF PROVIDING SAVINGS FOR TAXPAYERS THAT RESIDE IN THAT DISTRICT.

NOW ON THE POLICY STATEMENT, AS WE'LL SEE IN ATTACHMENT A, THE DRAFT POLICY IS ATTACHED NOW WITHIN AND ACROSS MUNICIPALITIES. DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICIES ARE RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW IMPORTANT COMPONENTS.

THE FIRST BEING OVERALL POLICY EXCUSE ME, OVERALL POLICY DIRECTION RESIDES AT THE LEVEL OF CITY COUNCIL, AND POLICY WILL GOVERN THE ISSUANCE, THE MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS THE POST ISSUANCE COMPLIANCE OF ALL DEBT TRANSACTIONS.

AND THEN LASTLY, GOVERNING THE USE AND ISSUANCE OF DEBT USED FOR FINANCING.

NOW SOME OF THE TYPES OF DEBT THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE UNDER ADOPTION OF THIS DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY WOULD INCLUDE THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN.

I'LL HIGHLIGHT A FEW THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, THE FIRST BEING BANK OR AGENCY LOANS, GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, REVENUE, BONDS, ASSESSMENT DEBT AND THEN LASTLY, REFUNDING OBLIGATIONS.

AND JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, THE PURPOSES FOR WHICH DEBT MAY BE ISSUED.

THE FIRST IS IF THE FINANCE PROJECT IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE BASIC SERVICES, IT BENEFITS CONSTITUENTS OF THE CITY.

TOTAL DEBT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN UNREASONABLE BURDEN.

AND THEN LASTLY, IT'S ISSUED TO REFINANCE OUTSTANDING DEBT.

NOW LASTLY, THE PROPOSED ACTION IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY FOR THE CITY.

THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.

I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. SPEAKERS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, MAYOR.

QUESTIONS? MOTION? MOVE ADOPTION OF ALL SIX RESOLUTIONS CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.

SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NOW MOVING ON TO THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE NIGHT.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN.

[10. COMPLIANCE REPORT FOR ANNUAL FIRE INSPECTIONS]

CITY MANAGER. YES, SIR.

AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY AS OUR FIRE MARSHAL, RANDY METZ.

RANDY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I BRING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT A STAFF REPORT THAT PROVIDES THE CURRENT STATUS OF OUR STATE MANDATED ANNUAL FIRE INSPECTION PROGRAM IN ACCORDANCE WITH SENATE BILL 1205.

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THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. THAT IS ONE OF THE BEST REPORTS YOU'VE EVER GIVEN.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

MOTION? OH, WE HAVE A COMMENT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

HAVING WORKED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT FOR OVER 20 YEARS WITH A LOT OF OLD BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, I WAS CONSTANTLY, I GUESS, BADGERED BY PROPERTY OWNERS AND BY MERCHANTS ABOUT ONEROUS, YOU KNOW, SAFETY CHECKS BY OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT'S RIGHT UNTIL HALF OF A BLOCK OF OUR DOWNTOWN BURNED DOWN.

AND IT BECAME THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK IN THE EYES OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS.

AND IT WAS AN AMAZING CHANGE TO SEE.

AND IT REMAINS THAT WAY TODAY THAT THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR OLDER BUILDINGS, WHICH HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT REMODELS.

AND WE ALL KNOW THE ISSUES THOSE CAUSE IN A FIRE.

AND FOR THEM TO PROACTIVELY REQUEST AND GO OUT AND REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE, I HOPE THAT NEVER HAPPENS HERE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR IMPORTANT WORK AND THEN TO TO MAYBE JUST ENCOURAGE OUR PROPERTY OWNERS, GROUPS AND MERCHANTS GROUPS AND CHAMBER GROUPS AND ANYONE ELSE WHO'S INVOLVED IN A STRUCTURE TO BE JUST VERY PROACTIVE AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUILDINGS, BECAUSE IT'S A REALLY SAD DAY WHEN YOU HAVE A BIG FIRE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. I ECHO THOSE COMMENTS.

MR. BLACKBURN? MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINS AN AGENDA ITEM.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT FOR THE RECORD, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.

I'M SORRY. I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.

OKAY. MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE REALLY APPRECIATE.

I KNOW YOUR REPORT WAS BRIEF, BUT WHAT YOU'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT IS AN ENORMOUS WORKLOAD.

SO THANK YOU. AND TO THE CHIEF.

SURE. OK, I THINK WE'RE TO FINAL COMMENTS, MR.

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IT IS PART OF THE JOB THAT I REALLY ENJOY IS CONSTITUENT SERVICES.

AND I TYPICALLY HAVE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE EVERY TUESDAY OR THURSDAY.

SO JUST CALL OUR CITY OR GO TO COUNCIL WEB PAGE AND YOU'LL SEE HOW TO SET UP AN APPOINTMENT.

AND THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? YES. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK UPDATES ON SOME OF THE WORK THAT I'VE BEEN DOING ON BEHALF OF CARLSBAD.

I ATTENDED THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING ON FRIDAY, WHERE WE DISCUSSED SOME OF THE LEGISLATION RELATING TO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AT THE STATE.

ONE OF THE BIG ONES IS A BUDGET REQUEST FOR THE ORGANIC WASTE RECYCLING PROGRAM TO TRY TO GET SOME LOCAL DOLLARS FROM THE STATE TO HELP US WITH EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FOR THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS THE ORGANIC WASTE RECYCLING PROGRAM THAT BEGINS JULY 1ST.

ANOTHER IS A REQUEST FOR THE STATE TO REIMBURSE CITIES FOR UNFUNDED MANDATES, THINGS THAT THE STATE IS REQUIRING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DO, BUT NOT ALLOWING FOR ANY FUNDING.

SO WITH THE STATE SURPLUS AND BUDGET SURPLUS BEING SO BIG THIS YEAR.

WE'VE BEEN MAKING THAT REQUEST FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW AND THAT RELATES VERY MUCH TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH MET THIS MORNING, AND WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT THAT AND SOME OF THE OTHER UPDATES RELATED TO THAT.

I ALSO ATTENDED IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES WEEK BECAUSE I ATTENDED THEIR MEETING OF THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY DIVISION, WHICH COUNCILMEMBER BHAT-PATEL IS ALSO VERY INVOLVED WITH BUT WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THIS THIS WEEK ON MONDAY.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE SAME ISSUES, THE STATE BUDGET REQUEST THAT CAL CITY'S LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES IS ASKING ALL CITIES TO PUSH WITH THEIR STATE LEGISLATORS. SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE BIG THINGS.

THE CARLSBAD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS ITS BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING TOMORROW AND NETWORKING EVENT THAT I'LL BE ATTENDING AS WELL TOMORROW ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I FEEL LIKE THERE IS, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAD THE NOTES ON RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT POPPED UP TODAY THAT YOU THINK IS NOTEWORTHY? I MEAN, WE WENT OVER SO MANY ITEMS, BUT WE HAD A VERY BIG MEETING THIS MORNING AND WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF LEGISLATION, EVERYTHING FROM E-BIKE EDUCATION, WHICH IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR LOCAL ASSEMBLY MEMBER, TASHA BERNER-HORVATH IS HAS PRESENTED A BILL ON E-BIKE SAFETY EDUCATION REQUIRING THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL TO PREPARE A TRAINING CURRICULUM THAT WOULD BE STANDARD FOR ALL E-BIKE BICYCLISTS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF HER BILLS THAT WE SUPPORTED.

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ONE IS LIFEGUARD RELATED AND THE OTHER IS COAST GUARD RELATED.

SO THEIR SAFETY BILLS, WATER SAFETY BILLS, THEY BOTH SEEM TO BE DOING VERY WELL.

AT EVERY LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, WE GET A PRESENTATION FROM OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES, OUR FEDERAL, OUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE, OUR STATE SENATOR, REPRESENTATIVE, AND OUR STATE ASSEMBLY MEMBER, REPRESENTATIVE.

SO WE HEAR FROM ALL OF THEM EVERY MONTH AT OUR MEETING, AND WE HAD A VERY FULL MEETING.

SO I'M NOT SURE, MAYOR, IF YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD, BUT WE CERTAINLY TALKED ABOUT A LOT AND WE ALWAYS GET A LOT OF WORK DONE.

I HAVE ONE BRIEF COMMENT WHEN IT GETS TO ME, BUT I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

OFTEN PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THE HOURS AND THE TIME AND THE DEPTH IN WHICH YOU'VE UNDERTAKEN THIS POSITION.

SO THANK YOU.

DR. BHAT-PATEL? ACTUALLY, IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION OF THE TWO OF YOU, BECAUSE I CAN'T ASK IT OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE AROUND THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND I KNOW I'M SURE WE'VE ALL BEEN OUTREACHED ABOUT SB 1108.

AND SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS AROUND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY UPDATES AND WHERE I KNOW OUR CITY'S POSITION IS CURRENTLY TO OPPOSE IT.

JUST CURIOUS WHAT WHAT UPDATES YOU ALL MAY HAVE RECEIVED AND WHETHER IT'S TRENDING IN A FAVORABLE DIRECTION.

COULD YOU JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE, TELL WHAT? SURE. SO IT WOULD BASICALLY.

IS IT 1105? OK.

YES, YES.

THANK YOU. SO. 1105 SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THAT ONE IS SPECIFICALLY AROUND CREATING A REGIONAL.

IT WOULD BE MORE OF A WORKING GROUP.

IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A REGIONAL LIKE JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY.

SO IT WOULD BE HOUSED UNDER SANDAG, CREATING A COMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING HOUSING AND POTENTIAL.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND THIS MIGHT BE AGAIN, I'M LOOKING TO OUR MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO DIG INTO IT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR AGENCIES TO RECEIVE FUNDING. BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, PROVIDING SOME SORT OF FUNDING AVENUE TO IT AS WELL ALSO WOULD HAVE VOTING POWERS, OF COURSE, FOR THE ENTIRE EACH OF THE ENTITIES.

BUT HOWEVER, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT REGIONS WOULD BE ASSIGNING A PERSON.

SO NOT NECESSARILY EACH CITY ITSELF.

SO FOR INSTANCE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE SANDAG TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, YOU HAVE LIKE A NORTH COASTAL REGION PERSON.

OKAY. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL, SINCE THIS MATTER IS AN AGENDIZED CAN WE GET YOU AN UPDATE IN ANOTHER FORMAT? OF COURSE. SO.

SO YEAH. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.

SO MAYBE IF YOU ALL CAN GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

SIMILARLY FOR TCPW, JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

SO TRANSPORTATION COMMUNICATIONS PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE FOR THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.

I ALSO WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE STATE UNFUNDED MANDATES AND JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING ANYTHING WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO RECEIVE SOME FUNDS FROM THE STATE FOR LOCAL ENTITIES.

SO OF COURSE WE WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

AND THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE THE BUDGET AND SURPLUS AND HOW THAT WILL BE USED FOR MANY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS HERE LOCALLY AS WELL.

AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO CLOSE OUT WITH OF COURSE GLAD WE HONORED PRIDE MONTH, AS WELL AS JUNETEENTH.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF MANY OF YOU KNOW I'M SURE YOU NOTICED IT ON YOUR PHONES, BUT TODAY IS FLAG DAY, WHICH OF COURSE HONORS WHEN OUR FLAG WAS BROUGHT INTO EXISTENCE IN 1777.

SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, FOR THOSE OF THE FATHERS OUT THERE THAT WILL BE CELEBRATING A HAPPY FATHER'S DAY THIS COMING SUNDAY.

MR. BLACKBURN? NOTHING.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

[CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]

AND IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED THAT WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE BIGGEST SURPLUSES EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND THEY'RE DEDICATING OVER ALMOST HALF OF THE SURPLUS TO SAVE THAT FOR THE UPCOMING ECONOMIC TIMES.

AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED TO SEE THAT BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN THE STATE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE.

SO THEY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN CHALLENGING TIMES.

SANDAG I THINK EVERYBODY HAS READ THE PAPER AND UNDERSTANDS THAT THE BALLOT INITIATIVE THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TO BE THE FIRST STEP IN HOW WE PAY FOR THE S170 BILLION.

I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING THAT $170 BILLION MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO QUALIFY FOR THE BALLOT.

[01:50:05]

THE OTHER IS, AND THIS IS JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT OUT OF BEING ON THE WATER AUTHORITY.

IT'S KNOWN THAT RIGHT NOW THAT IN BOTH WATER AND ENERGY WEST OF THE ROCKIES IS PROBABLY IN A VERY CHALLENGING PLACE.

LAKE POWELL AND LAKE MEAD OR ALMOST AT RECORD LOWS.

AND SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? TO CHANGE THAT, IT TAKES 20 CONSECUTIVE WET YEARS TO GET IT BACK TO CAPACITY.

20 WET YEARS.

AND IT'S GETTING TO A POINT WHERE IT'S ALMOST TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO LET THE WATER GO TO PRODUCE THE POWER.

SO THAT ALSO BRINGS UP CHALLENGING TIMES AND HOW AND WHEN WE PERHAPS DO THINGS.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF.

JUST AS MY GENERAL REPORT, IT'S NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'LL SEE MORE THAN THREE OF US AT OR MORE THAN TWO OF US AT ANY MEETING FOR THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS.

SO WITH THAT, MR.

[CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS]

AND AT NEXT WEEK'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH AGAIN THE JUNE 21ST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD THE 2020 NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION AS WELL AS AND AGAIN, THAT'LL BE SETTING OR CALLING FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.

BUT IN ADDITION, WE'LL ALSO BE BRINGING FORWARD THE MONROE STREET POOL.

SO THAT ITEM WILL BE ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA.

NOTHING FURTHER. ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY? NOTHING FOR ME. THANK YOU.

CITY CLERK? NOTHING OTHER THAN ITS 2022 GENERAL ELECTION.

THANK YOU.

I WANT TO GO BACK IN TIME.

NO, I APPRECIATE YOU CALLED HIM OUT ON THAT.

SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS, WE STAND ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.