Jun 21, 2022 City Council Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

COUNCILMEMBER NORBY.

HERE, COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA.

HERE, COUNCILMEMBER BOB PATEL.

HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN.

PRESENT MAYOR HALL.

HERE, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

BEFORE WE HAVE THE PLEDGE, I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS SERVING AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER SIX THROUGH EIGHT.

AND I'LL JUST SAY AT THIS TIME, I HAVE A CONFLICT ON ITEM SEVEN ON THE CONSENT.

KELLER SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING ON THAT ITEM.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

AND MR. BLACKBURN, IF YOU CAN, PLEASE RISE AND WE'LL LET YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH SAYS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY. NEXT, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REPORT OUT ON OUR CLOSED SESSION? THANK YOU, MARY. THERE WERE NO REPORTABLE ACTIONS.

OKAY. WITH THAT, WE DO NOT HAVE MINUTES, SO WE MOVE DIRECTLY INTO PRESENTATIONS.

[PRESENTATIONS]

AND I JUST WANT TO BEGIN BY SAYING THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

AND I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.

SO GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HAVING US TODAY.

I'M SUZANNE SMITHSON, LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DIRECTOR.

AND WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE AMANDA ECKHOFF, A BOARD MEMBER OF THE FRIENDS OF THE ARTS AND THE PRESIDENT, BRENDA BECKETT, AND THEN LIZ LICHTENBERGER, ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER.

AND AMANDA WILL SPEAK IN A FEW MINUTES.

I WANT TO SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES IN THE CITY'S LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT AND EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO THE FRIENDS OF THE ARTS, A GROUP OF DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS WHO TIRELESSLY RAISE FUNDS TO SUPPORT ARTS PROGRAMS IN CARLSBAD, IN THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT.

WE CALL THIS GROUP THE BEST FRIENDS OF THE ARTS.

ONE OF THE AREAS IN WHICH THE FRIENDS OF THE ARTS SUPPORTS IS THE TGIF CONCERTS IN THE PARK.

AND TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION SIGNALS THE RETURN OF THE CONCERTS IN THE PARK AFTER A TWO YEAR HIATUS.

AND I BELIEVE THE CLARK JUST GAVE ALL OF YOU A PROGRAM FOR THIS YEAR'S EVENTS.

THIS CARLSBAD MUSICAL TRADITION WILL BRING TOGETHER FAMILY, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS ONCE AGAIN TO GATHER FOR AWESOME MUSIC.

THERE WILL BE NINE CONCERTS EVERY FRIDAY BEGINNING THIS FRIDAY, JUNE 24TH, UNTIL FRIDAY, AUGUST 19TH.

AND WE ARE THIS YEAR WE ARE CELEBRATING THE 35TH ANNIVERSARY OF THESE CONCERTS.

AND IT'S NOW MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE BOARD MEMBER AMANDA ECKHOFF, WHO WILL OFFICIALLY PRESENT THE FRIENDS OF THE ARTS ANNUAL DONATION FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU, SUZANNE.

HELLO, EVERYBODY.

ESTEEMED LEADERS.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE JUST RECEIVED THE PROGRAM.

I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO NOTICE AND RECOGNIZE ALL OF THE SPONSORS AND DONORS FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND FROM AROUND OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE GENEROUSLY DONATED TO OUR CONCERTS THIS SUMMER.

THE PROGRAM IS IS COORDINATED BY CARLSBAD, FRIENDS OF THE ARTS, AND I HOPE YOU'VE ALL RECEIVED A MEMBERSHIP BROCHURE IF YOU HAVE NOT.

I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET THOSE AS WELL.

TO HAVE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY JOIN US AND BE A PART OF ART AS WELL.

AND ON BEHALF OF CARLSBAD, FRIENDS OF THE ARTS, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR LEVERAGING OUR DONATION TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE AMAZING CULTURAL ARTS PROGRAMS WE HAVE HERE IN CARLSBAD AND KEEPING THEM ACCESSIBLE AND FREE TO EVERYONE.

PROGRAMS LIKE POP UP ART, FRONT ROW SATURDAYS AND OF COURSE, THE TGIF CONCERTS STARTING THIS FRIDAY AND GOING EVERY FRIDAY FOR THE NEXT NINE FRIDAYS. AND A SHAMELESS PLUG.

PLEASE SEE CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS DOT ORG FOR MORE DETAILS AND COME VISIT CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS.

SAY HI. JOIN OUR RAFFLES.

SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY.

COME SEE WHAT KIND OF FUN GIFTS WE MIGHT HAVE.

COME VISIT. VISIT US AT THE TENT IN THE BACK OF THE FIELD AT ALL OF THE CONCERTS.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT OUR DONATION FROM CARLSBAD, FRIENDS OF THE ARTS TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD CULTURAL ARTS OFFICE IN THE AMOUNT OF

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND BEFORE YOU GO, I'M SORRY.

I MISS THE WEBSITE.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SEE ABOUT THE TGIF.

ONCE MORE, COULD YOU GIVE IT TO THE COMMUNITY? CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS DOT ORG.

OKAY. IT'S THIS CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS DOT ORG.

IT ROLLS RIGHT OFF THE TOP.

THERE YOU GO. IT'S THIS FRIDAY AND WE STARTED STAGECOACH THIS FRIDAY.

WE STARTED STAGECOACH.

WE'RE THEN AT STAGECOACH AND THEN THREE AT POINSETTIA, TWO AT CHAVIRA AND TWO AT ARGONAUT.

OKAY, SEE YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL OTHER NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE ASK YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING BUSINESS SECTIONS OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED. AND WE HAVE SPEAKERS.

YES, MAYOR, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY AARON CUKOR.

GOOD EVENING. MY T-SHIRT COMES FROM THE GIFT SHOP AT MINUTEMAN NATIONAL PARK.

GOT A MINUTEMAN HERE? JUNETEENTH YESTERDAY.

WONDERFUL. I HOPE THAT THE FELLOW THAT BROUGHT THE INFORMATION TO THOSE PEOPLE.

MAJOR GENERAL GORDON GRANGER, WAS AS JOYOUS AS THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

DONATIONS. ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, I WENT OVER HERE TO THE THEATER LIFE THEATER WITH MY WIFE, GOT A PROGRAM, SAW THAT MAYOR HALL HAD MADE A VERY GENEROUS DONATION THERE, CAME TO THIS PODIUM AND I THANKED THE MAYOR FOR DOING THAT.

SATURDAY EVENING, A COUPLE OF EVENINGS AGO, I WAS HAPPY TO BE AT THE SIXTH ANNUAL SECOND AMENDMENT CELEBRATION DINNER IN SAN DIEGO, AND KEITH BLACKBURN MADE A GENEROUS DONATION THERE.

AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE IT MADE IT CHEAPER FOR ME AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE WAS BRIAN MARRIOTT, WHO EVERYBODY SHOULD ELECT FOR CONGRESS.

JIM DESMOND WAS THERE AND MELANIE RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL WAS THERE.

ALL THESE PEOPLE, WONDERFUL PEOPLE WITH NORMAL AND REALISTIC SUPPORT OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

LAST WEEK, A RETIRED TEACHER STOOD HERE AND HE SAID HE HE ENCOURAGED YOU GUYS TO SHOW SOME DISRESPECT FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT, IN PARTICULAR ASSAULT RIFLES FOR THE SAKE OF HIS GRANDKIDS. BUT SPEAKING OF TEENAGERS, THERE'S ONE THERE'S ONE KID, 17 YEAR OLD KYLE RITTENHOUSE, DURING 2020. HE WAS VERY UPSET WHEN THERE WERE PEOPLE CONDUCTING THEMSELVES LIKE THE BRITS WERE IN THE 1770S.

THEY WERE BURNING CITIES DOWN LIKE THE BRITS DID HERE.

SO HE GRABBED A RIFLE LIKE THIS GUY AND HE WENT DOWN THERE AND AND LOOKING FORWARD TO 2040, I'LL BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR HIM FOR PRESIDENT.

HE'LL BE OLD ENOUGH.

ALSO, THE OCCUPY WALL STREET MOVEMENT.

I LOOKED AT WIKIPEDIA TODAY AND IT SAYS THAT THEY THAT THAT THEY HAVE THEIR ROOTS IN THE PHILOSOPHY OF ANARCHISM AND LIKE THE KU KLUX KLAN AS THEY STARTED OUT IN AT WALL STREET, THEY AND THEN THEY DECIDED TO GO EVERYWHERE IN AMERICA WHERE THERE'S WEALTHY PEOPLE.

SO THEY CAME OVER HERE TO SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

THEY STARTED IN OCEANSIDE.

THEY SKIPPED CARLSBAD, AND THEY WENT TO RANCHO SANTA FE JUST TO LET THEM KNOW, LIKE THE WAY THE KLUX IS DID TO THE BLACK PEOPLE THAT LIVED NEAR THEM.

WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE.

SO IF YOU THINK IT'S BEEN A HECK OF A LONG TIME SINCE KLAN ACTIVITY WAS DESIGNED TO SCARE PEOPLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO 1890. YOU CAN GO TO CARLISLE.

YOU GO TO SAN DIEGO COUNTY IN 2011 WHEN THE OCCUPY WALL STREETERS WERE HERE.

AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE MOVIE RED DAWN, WHERE SOVIETS WERE PARACHUTING INTO AMERICA.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS AARON KUCHAR, FOLLOWED BY KATIE TAYLOR.

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I'M A RESIDENT OF WATERS END IN CARLSBAD.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. BLACKBURN AND MS.. PATEL FOR HELPING US SECURE OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU HELPED US VIRTUALLY REDUCE AND ELIMINATE THE THE CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS THERE.

I'M HERE TO ENLIST THE SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL NOW TO HELP KEEP OUR SCHOOLS SAFE FOR KIDS IN THE WAKE OF THE VIVALDI INCIDENT.

THIS REALLY NEEDS TO BE A TOP PRIORITY.

I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE.

IN THE WEEKS AFTER VIVALDI, WHERE THERE WERE POLICE OFFICERS AT EACH OF THE SCHOOLS, THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS RESPONSE.

MANY OF THE PARENTS STOPPED TO THANK THOSE POLICE OFFICERS.

MY KIDS AND THE COMMUNITY KIDS CAME HOME FEELING SAFE AND FEELING PROTECTED BECAUSE THOSE POLICE OFFICERS WERE THERE.

I WOULD EXPRESS FOR MY FAMILY, FOR THE FAMILIES AND THE COMMUNITY OF CARLSBAD.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE POLICE OFFICERS AT EVERY PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD STARTING IN THE FALL AND INTO THE FUTURE.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THE TIMES WE LIVE IN, BUT THIS HAS TO BE TAKEN AS A TOP PRIORITY.

HAVING THE POLICE OFFICERS AT THE SCHOOL WILL HELP PREVENT THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN UVALDE.

THE REASON THAT THESE MASS SHOOTINGS HAPPEN IS FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE, YOU GET A CRAZY PERSON WITH A GUN.

AND TWO IS BECAUSE SCHOOLS DON'T SHOOT BACK.

THEY'RE SOFT TARGETS.

AND BY HAVING A POLICE OFFICER THERE THAT'S ARMED, THAT HAS A MARKED VEHICLE WITH THEM THAT'S ON CAMPUS, THE TEACHERS WILL FEEL SAFE, THE CHILDREN WILL FEEL SAFE.

AND WE CAN POTENTIALLY PREVENT A PROBLEM, BECAUSE IF WE LEAVE OUR SCHOOLS UNPROTECTED, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN.

THE RATE AT WHICH WE HAVE MASS SHOOTINGS IN THIS COUNTRY, IT'S IT'S TERRIFYING AS A PARENT HAVING YOUNG KIDS TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE TO FACE WHEN WE DROP OUR KIDS OFF AT SCHOOL EVERY DAY. SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING FROM THE TOWN COUNCIL THAT YOU GUYS DO TO SERVICE THIS COMMUNITY.

I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, YOU'VE DONE TO MAKE CARLSBAD A LITTLE SLICE OF HEAVEN HERE NEXT TO THE OCEAN.

AND SO I JUST ASK YOU TO DO ONE MORE THING AND HELP US SECURE OUR SCHOOLS BY HAVING POLICE OFFICERS IN THE SCHOOLS START IN THE FALL.

THANK YOU, SIR. FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR GIVING THE COUNCIL CREDIT FOR HELPING WITH THE CRIME AT WATER'S END.

BUT IT'S NOT THE COUNCIL WHO DID IT.

IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE FULL CREDIT FOR THAT.

BUT ALSO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A VERY DETAILED PLAN FOR SCHOOL SAFETY.

AND IF YOU SPEAK WITH THE POLICE LIEUTENANT MARSHALL AT THE VERY BACK OF THE ROOM, HE'LL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO SHARE A LOT WITH YOU SO YOU GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS KATIE TAYLOR.

ALL RIGHT DOWN HERE.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

THIS LAST MARCH AT AN OCEANSIDE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I REQUESTED THE CITY CLOSED LAGOON VIEW DRIVE.

LAGOON VIEW DRIVE IS A CUL DE SAC NORTH OF BUENA VISTA LAGOON, JUST OFF JEFFERSON STREET.

IT SEPARATES CARLSBAD FROM OCEANSIDE.

THE AREA HAD BECOME A REGULAR EPICENTER FOR CRIME, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, ILLEGAL PARKING AND JUST TRASH EVERYWHERE.

BASED ON MY PRESENTATION, OCEANSIDE MOVED SWIFTLY TO APPROVE CLOSING THE ROAD WITH FULL POLICE, FIRE, WILDLIFE RESERVE SUPPORT.

AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT ON JUNE 8TH, THE CITY COUNCIL OF OCEANSIDE VOTED 100% APPROVAL.

THERE IS MUCH MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR BOTH OCEANSIDE AND CARLSBAD TO SAVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND REDUCE CRIME.

DISTRICT ONE IN CARLSBAD IS PLAGUED BY MOTORHOMES, ILLEGALLY PARKING.

I SUGGEST IMMEDIATELY INCREASING FINES FOR ILLEGAL PARKING, STARTING AT 150 AND POPPING ANOTHER 100 EVERY TIME YOU FIND THEM UP TO FIVE.

AND IF AT FIVE, THERE'S STILL PARKING ILLEGALLY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.

SO IF THEY JUST MOVE THEIR MOTOR HOME OR MOVE THEIR ILLEGALLY PARK VEHICLE, THAT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH IF THEY'RE FOUND IN OUR CITY ILLEGALLY PARKING AND THEY SHOULD BE IMPOUNDED WITH LIKE A $2,500 FINE TO GET IT OUT UNLESS WE MAKE IT PUNITIVE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP.

AND SO AND I'D ALSO SUGGEST MAYBE SET UP AN ILLEGAL PARKING HOTLINE WHERE PEOPLE CAN CALL IN AND NOTIFY THE POLICE WHERE THEY SEE ILLEGALLY PARKED VEHICLES OVERNIGHT.

THIS WILL SAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT TIME.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO RUN AROUND AND LOOK WHERE THEY ARE.

THEY'VE GOT THEY CAN GO RIGHT TO A TIP HOTLINE AND LOOK FOR THESE VEHICLES ON THE HOMELESS FARE.

LAST FRIDAY, LOCATING NEXT TO HOLIDAY PARK, WHICH WAS FILLED WITH CHILDREN, WAS A VERY BAD IDEA TO ME.

TO ME, THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO MAINSTREAM TO MAKE HOMELESS LIFESTYLE SEEM NORMAL.

IT IS NOT NORMAL.

JUST THE WAY DRAG QUEENS PERFORMING FOR CHILDREN IS NOT NORMAL.

BOTH ARE UNACCEPTABLE.

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AND THIS IS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD POLICE FIRE THAT WAS HANDED OUT.

THERE'S TONS OF SERVICES FOR PEOPLE IF THEY WANT HELP.

THE PEOPLE LIVING AND RUNNING OUR STREETS TURNED DOWN THOSE SERVICES.

I BET YOU IF WE CALLED ANY OFFICER UP HERE, THIS HAD TO DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS.

THEY WOULD TELL YOU THE SAME THING.

AND I WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS BROCHURE RIGHT DOWN HERE, THREE OF THE PROBLEMS ARE LISTED.

YOU KNOW, THREE OF THE PROBLEMS ARE THREE OF THE PROBLEMS ARE, LET'S SEE, FEEDING ALL GOD'S CHILDREN, FILL THE BELLY AND SHOWERS OF BLESSINGS, ALL LOCATED IN DISTRICT ONE, NOT TWO, NOT THREE.

NO DISTRICT ONE HAS ALL OF THOSE.

AND THEY ARE COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM.

THEY'RE AIDING AND ABETTING THE HOMELESS, BEING ABLE TO STAY LIVING ON THE STREETS.

SO WHILE THEY'RE BUSY PATTING THEMSELVES ON THE BACK, THEY ARE HELPING THE DESTRUCTION OF DISTRICT ONE AND CARLSBAD.

SO MY OPINION IS THEIR COMPASSION IS MISPLACED AND HURTS US.

MS.. TAYLOR, I'M SORRY TO SAY, BUT YOUR TIME IS UP.

I'M SORRY, TOO, BECAUSE I HAD MORE GOOD STUFF.

WELL, YOU COME BACK NEXT WEEK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHERS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS.

OKAY. THEN MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH TEN.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

DOES ANYONE WISH TO PULL AN ITEM? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.

MAYOR. HEY, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY COMMENT ON ITEM FIVE.

I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED AN AGENDA REPORT OR HAVE IT PULLED.

OKAY. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PUBLIC AND WHAT A GREAT AGREEMENT THIS HAS BEEN THROUGHOUT HISTORY WITH THE INTERFACE COMMUNITY SERVICES TO OPERATE AND MANAGE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HIRING CENTER.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY REPRESENTATIVES FROM THAT ORGANIZATION HERE, BUT IT'S JUST BEEN A FABULOUS ORGANIZATION.

WE WE ADDRESSED A VERY, VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM IN OUR COMMUNITY 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO IN TERMS OF HIRING AND THAT THAT THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE IS EXEMPLARY.

AND ON TWO FRONTS. NUMBER ONE, IT'S BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE FOR HOMEOWNERS TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET A PERSON WHO IS LEGAL TO WORK HERE, TO BE ABLE TO WORK AT THE HOUSE AND THEN OR THEIR PROPERTY.

AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THE WORKER GETS TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY THE PERSON WHO HIRES THEM.

AND SO THEY JUST DO AN EXEMPLARY JOB.

I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE THEM HERE AND THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING YOUR WORK.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, MOTION, PLEASE MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS NUMBER ONE THROUGH TEN.

OKAY. SECOND, ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT VOTING ON ITEM SEVEN.

SO THE CONSENT CALENDAR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM SEVEN ON A40.

MOVING ALONG, WE HAVE NO ORDINANCES FOR INTRODUCTION.

WE HAVE NO ORDINANCES FOR ADOPTION BUT PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[11. LEVY OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENT FOR CARLSBAD TOURISM BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023]

OFFICE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT FOR CARLSBAD TOURISM AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023.

MR. CHADWICK, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE INTRODUCTION? YES, SIR. IN MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY AS OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER CHADWICK.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ZACHAREK. FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY.

AND AS MENTIONED, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CARLSBAD TOURISM BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND THE LEVY OF THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT.

NOW. ON JUNE SEVEN, 20, 2022, CITY COUNCIL MEETING CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE THE ANNUAL REPORT FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD AND ADOPTED A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION TO LEVY AND COLLECT THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR 2020 223.

LASTLY, CITY COUNCIL SCHEDULED THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS EVENING.

THE RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THE CARLSBAD TOURISM BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

AND THE RELATED HEARING PROCESS IS TO, OF COURSE, HOLD THE HEARING, CONSIDER PROTESTS IF THERE IS A MAJORITY PROTEST.

NO FURTHER STEPS WOULD BE TAKEN FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR.

IF THERE IS NO MAJORITY PROTEST, THEN CITY COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION, CONFIRMING THE ANNUAL REPORT AND LEVYING THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

AND WITH THAT, THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION.

I'D LIKE TO TURN IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL TO CARRY OUT THE REMAINDER OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU. OKAY, I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING QUESTIONS.

MOTION. WE'VE ADOPTION OF ALL FOUR RESOLUTIONS.

OH, I'M SO SORRY. I'M AHEAD OF ONE MOVE.

ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

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ITEM 1111. THANK YOU.

SKIPPING AHEAD, YOU'RE JUST LIKE ME.

YOU'RE OKAY.

AND DOCTOR, YOU SECOND THE MOTION WITH THAT? I DID. YEAH. CALL QUESTION.

PLEASE VOTE. WHOOPS.

DID I MESS IT UP? THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE ATTENTION AWAY FROM ME IMMEDIATELY.

ANY TIME, ANYTHING, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RETHINK IT.

I HIT SOMETHING WRONG HERE.

I'LL TAKE CREDIT.

MINE'S FLASHING. IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? MINE. FOR ME TO VOTE OCH AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WITH THAT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 12 LEVY OF AN ANNUAL ASSESSMENT FOR CARLSBAD GOLF COURSE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023.

[12. LEVY OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENT FOR CARLSBAD GOLF LODGING BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-23]

AND THE SAME STAFF IS PRESENTING OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ZACH HORWITZ, FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY.

THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS, OF COURSE, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CARLSBAD GOLF LODGING BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND THE LEVY FOR THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT.

SIMILARLY, AT THE JUNE SEVEN, 2022 COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL APPROVED THE ANNUAL REPORT AND ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION OF INTENTION TO LEVY AND COLLECT THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR AND LASTLY SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS EVENING AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING TO FOR CITY COUNCIL TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDER PROTESTS IF THERE ARE NO MAJORITY PROTESTS TO CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE ANNUAL REPORT AND LEVYING THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WITH THAT, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION. OH, I'M SORRY.

COMMENT. SORRY.

I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY BRIEF, BUT I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE INDUSTRY, NUMBER ONE, AND WHAT THEY DO MARKETING THEMSELVES AT NO COST TO THE CITY.

THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT COMES IN TO WHAT IS A MAJOR, MAJOR PORTION OF OUR INCOME.

AND IT'S ALWAYS, I THINK, JUST WE WE DEBATE AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT SPENDING MONEY, BUT ACKNOWLEDGING THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDES US THE INCOME AS A CITY TO OPERATE THE WAY WE DO AND PROVIDE THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO TO OUR CITIZENS IS JUST EXEMPLARY.

AND THEN JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS GOES FAR BEYOND THE TOURISM INDUSTRY IN TERMS OF SALES TAX AND JOBS CREATED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO JUST BIG THANK YOU TO THE INDUSTRY.

MOTION. MOVE.

ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[13. CALLING THE NOV. 8, 2022, GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION AND CONSIDER PLACING A MEASURE ON THE BALLOT FOR THE REFURBISHMENT OF THE MONROE STREET POOL]

ITEM 13 CALLING THE NOVEMBER EIGHT, 2022 GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION AND CONSIDER PLACING A MEASURE ON THE BALLOT FOR THE REFURBISHMENT OF THE MONROE STREET POOL.

YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR LEGISLATIVE, LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES DIRECTOR SHEILA COBAIN, AS WELL AS OUR PARK AND REC DIRECTOR KYLE LANCASTER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS ITEM IS TO CALL THE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022 GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION AND TO CONSIDER PLACING A MEASURE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT TO OBTAIN VOTER APPROVAL TO SPEND MORE THAN $1 MILLION ON THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

CALLING THE ELECTION FOR THE OFFICES OF MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT ONE, COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT THREE, CITY TREASURER AND CITY CLERK IS ROUTINE IN NATURE.

THE TERMS OF EACH OFFICE WILL END IN 2026.

IN ADDITION TO ADOPTING THE RESOLUTIONS TO HOLD THE ELECTION FOR THOSE OFFICES, STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZE PLACING A MEASURE ON THE BALLOT THAT WOULD SEEK VOTER APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO SPEND MORE THAN $1 MILLION FOR THE RENOVATION REPLACEMENT OF THE MONROE STREET POOL.

ON JANUARY 26, 2021, COUNCIL RECEIVED A REPORT REGARDING THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

AT THAT MEETING, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO PURSUE DESIGN CONCEPT THREE AND DUE TO THE STIPULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH PROPOSITION H TO PLACE THE ITEM ON THE JUNE SEVEN, 2022 BALLOT FOR VOTER APPROVAL.

OH, SORRY. GOT A LITTLE TOO.

ON FEBRUARY 22ND, 2022, COUNCIL DEFERRED THE PLACEMENT OF THE MEASURE ON THE JUNE PALLET TO ALLOW COUNCIL TO CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AND TO PRIORITIZE UPCOMING CAPITAL PROJECTS.

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THEREFORE, STAFF HAS CRAFTED A BALLOT MEASURE QUESTION AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION PACKAGE TO CALL THE NOVEMBER GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION.

IF COUNCIL WISHES TO SUBMIT TO THE VOTERS A BALLOT MEASURE FOR THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT PROJECT COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ORDERING THE SUBMISSION OF THE BALLOT MEASURE TO THE VOTERS.

STAFF DRAFTED THE PROPOSED BALLOT QUESTION DO THE VOTERS OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD APPROVE SPENDING EXISTING CITY FUNDS FROM VARIOUS SOURCES, INCLUDING THE GENERAL FUND, IN AN AMOUNT TO EXCEED $1 MILLION FOR THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT PROJECT, LOCATED AT 30 401 MONROE STREET FOR AN ESTIMATED COST OF 22 MILLION TO 24 MILLION.

THE RESOLUTION WOULD ADDITIONALLY REQUEST CONSOLIDATION SERVICES FROM THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WOULD DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN IMPARTIAL ANALYSIS AND ESTABLISH PROCEDURES FOR WRITTEN BALLOT ARGUMENTS.

TO ADDRESS SOME COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT THE PROPOSED BALLOT QUESTION AND BALLOT MEASURE FULL TEXT DOES NOT SUFFICIENTLY CONSTRAIN SPENDING.

THE BALLOT QUESTION COULD BE AMENDED TO READ.

DO THE VOTERS OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD APPROVE SPENDING EXISTING CITY FUNDS FROM VARIOUS SOURCES, INCLUDING THE GENERAL FUND, IN AN AMOUNT TO EXCEED $1 MILLION FOR THE MAIN STREET POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT PROJECT LOCATED AT 30 401 MONROE STREET FOR AN ESTIMATED COST RANGE OF 22 MILLION, UP TO $24 MILLION.

SECTION ONE OF THE BALLOT MEASURE, FULL TEXT WOULD BE AMENDED TO ADD THE LANGUAGE AND UP TO 24 MILLION AS WELL.

TO ALSO ADDRESS CONCERNS REGARDING INFLATION.

THE BALLOT QUESTION COULD BE AMENDED FURTHER TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE ADJUSTED ANNUALLY BY THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE TO THE LOS ANGELES ENGINEERING NEWS RECORD CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX.

THE BALLOT MEASURE FULL TEXT WOULD ALSO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ITEM 13? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, MAYOR.

NO SPEAKERS. AN ITEM 13 QUESTIONS.

DR.. YES.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND I. FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALSO FOR INCORPORATING I KNOW WE'D GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK WITH REGARDS TO THE RANGE, AND THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOME SOMETHING I'D ALSO BROUGHT UP WITH THE TEAM WAS, HEY, HOW CAN WE INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE THAT FOLKS ARE ASKING FOR? SO THE UP TO I THINK AT LEAST HAS KIND OF A MAKING MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A TOP END OF HOW MUCH WE WOULD WANT TO SPEND.

AND THEN I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS, WHICH IS WE COULD GO WITH THE ALTERNATIVE OPTION NUMBER ONE OR THE ALTERNATIVE OPTION NUMBER TWO TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES.

ONE FACTORS IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERCENTAGE OF INFLATION.

SO AND YOU MAY IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS TOTALLY FINE.

BUT JUST CURIOUS WITH REGARDS TO MEASURE, OH, FOR INSTANCE, DID WE SEE, YOU KNOW, AN INFLATION OF I'M GUESSING WE DID IN TERMS OF THE COST THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH ACTUALLY BUILDING IT AND IF SO, WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE WAS.

BECAUSE I'D BE CURIOUS TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT IF WE NEED TO GO WITH THAT PARTICULAR OPTION OR NOT.

I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF POSSIBLY MR. STUART OR MR. MESERVE. NO, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

NO WORRIES. I KNOW THAT THAT LANGUAGE DID SAY THAT WE COULD ONLY GO UP TO A CERTAIN NUMBER.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT SAID UP TO HOWEVER MANY MILLION.

SO I'M ASSUMING WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T SURPASS THAT NUMBER.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WITH REGARDS TO THE SPECIFICALLY, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO SEE INFLATION COST AROUND THIS AS WELL.

DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE AS AS STAFF IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALTERNATIVE OPTION NUMBER ONE AND NOT INCORPORATE THE ESCALATOR SO THAT THE TAXPAYERS KNOW, OKAY, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE UP TO $24 MILLION.

AND THEN IF LET'S JUST SAY YOU ALL HAD TO COME BACK AT SOME POINT AND YOU SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED EXTRA.

YOU COULD ALWAYS COME BACK TO US.

BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, THEY'RE JUST APPROVING, APPROVING THAT 24 MILLION.

AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEY CAN HAVE MORE FEEDBACK LATER ON.

AND, COUNCILMEMBER, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

IN KIND OF THINKING THROUGH THIS, AGAIN, THE ESTIMATE THAT INITIALLY STAFF ARRIVED AT WAS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.

BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY DESIGN WORK ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

I DO THINK A BELT AND SUSPENDERS APPROACH OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE AN ESCALATOR AS PART OF IT OR CONDITION IT, BECAUSE IN THE EVENT THAT, LET'S SAY THE VOTERS DO

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SO THIS GIVES THE CITY OR AT LEAST CITY STAFF THE FLEXIBILITY ASSOCIATED WITH IT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHATEVER THE ESCALATOR IS NOW ULTIMATELY IN THE EVENT THAT IT EXCEEDS THAT LIKELY.

AND I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT IF WE HAVE TO EXPEND ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE VOTERS AUTHORIZED, WE'D LIKELY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS.

AND THAT LANGUAGE, THAT ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE, WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO WHAT FOLKS WOULD BE VOTING ON.

SO THEY WOULD ALSO BE AWARE THAT THERE WOULD BE THAT INFLATIONARY FACTOR INCORPORATED INTO IT.

IF COUNCIL CHOOSES THAT, IF WE CHOSE THAT, YES.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT COMMENTS.

JUST QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS TO.

YES. THANK YOU. COULD YOU PUT THE LANGUAGE BACK UP AGAIN WITH THE OPTION NUMBER TO.

HERE WE GO. SO I DID SEE THE PREVIOUS BALLOT MEASURE THAT WAS SUBMITTED THAT HAD THE RANGE UP TO A CERTAIN TOP END AND IT DIDN'T HAVE THE THE INFLATIONARY INCREASE.

AND I HEARD COUNCILMEMBER BOB PATEL ASK IF IF THAT HAD AFFECTED THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AT ALL.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF IF THIS IS TYPICAL, IT JUST SEEMS VERY BULKY TO SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THE COST INDEX.

I KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE WE'RE BEING VERY SPECIFIC RATHER THAN JUST SAYING ADJUSTED ANNUALLY BY THE CPI, THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT JUST IS A VERY LONG EDITION AND I'M WONDERING WHY WE DECIDED TO TO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE.

I WOULD DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SHE HELPED TO CRAFT THIS LANGUAGE.

FIRST OFF, IT'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE SIMPLEST ADJUSTMENTS WE COULD TO THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE STOCK REPORT.

AND THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS STAFF RECEIVED ABOUT THE EXTRAORDINARY INFLATION THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

NOT TYPICAL OF WHAT I'VE SEEN EVEN IN MY LIFETIME.

RIGHT. I'M SORRY.

I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A BIT BULKY THIS LONG.

AND WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING BEFORE THE VOTERS, WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE IN LANGUAGE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON AND AREN'T CONFUSED.

SO THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.

IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER WAY THAT WE CONSIDERED WORDING THIS SO THAT IT WAS SIMPLER ADJUSTED ANNUALLY BY SOMETHING ELSE.

CONSUMER PRICE INDEX OR INFLATION? I THINK OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHY THIS PARTICULAR INDEX WAS CHOSEN VERSUS CPI.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS WORKING.

THE REASON WHY WE HAD INCLUDED THE EXTRA VERBIAGE AND IT IS INDEED A BIT BULKY IS FOR PURPOSES OF TRANSPARENCY.

IF IT IS AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, WE COULD CONSIDER SHORTENING IT.

IF APPROPRIATE, WE CAN USE AN ACRONYM FOR CONSTRUCTION COST INCREASE.

OF COURSE, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND WHEN WE'RE REPORTING OUT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WE CAN REFERENCE THE SPECIFIC INDEX FACTOR.

AND SPECIFICALLY, AS MENTIONED HERE, THE LOS ANGELES ENGINEER NEWS RECORD JUST TO MAINTAIN AND ACHIEVE CONTINUED TRANSPARENCY OVER IT.

OKAY. SO IT'S FOR TRANSPARENCY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. NORBY. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THE COST RANGE ESTIMATE OF 22 TO 24 MILLION WON.

WHEN WAS THAT DEVELOPED IN TERMS OF HOW LONG AGO? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

LANCASTER PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

IT WAS MOST RECENTLY UPDATED AT THE END OF APRIL PRIOR TO YOUR MAY STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION ON CIP.

OKAY. SO IT'S A RECENT ESTIMATE.

YES, SIR. COST RANGE.

THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR BECAUSE I MEAN, I THINK PROJECTS THAT ARE A YEAR OR TWO OLD IN TERMS OF COST ESTIMATES, NONE OF THEM ARE GOING TO HIT THEIR MARK.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON A DOWNWARD SLOPE NOW WITH COST OF CONSTRUCTION, WHETHER IT'S METAL, LUMBER, CONCRETE COMING DOWN.

AND SIX MONTHS AGO WE WERE ON AN UPWARD SLOPE.

AND WHO KNOWS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT YEAR, YEAR TO YEAR THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE? AND THEN THIS IS THIS IS IT CAN BE FAIRLY SIMPLE.

AT THE BALLOT BOX. YOU GO IN, YOU READ A PARAGRAPH.

IF YOU DON'T READ ALL OF THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL YOU'RE NOT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT, YOU MAKE A VOTE.

AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU, I HAVE A STRONG BIAS ABOUT THE WORD OF LOS ANGELES THAT PUTS ME IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE LOS ANGELES.

I DON'T WANT TO COMPARE MYSELF TO LOS ANGELES.

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I MEAN, IT JUST KIND OF PUSHES ME IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A LONG NAME, IF THERE'S A SAN DIEGO INDEX OR A CALIFORNIA INDEX OR A COST OF CONSTRUCTION INDEX OR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE.

LIKE I SAID, IT CAN BE VERY SIMPLE AT TIMES, AND THAT'S ONE FOR ME THAT'S LIKE, OOH, I DON'T LIKE IT.

AND COUNCILMEMBER, JUST TO, AND I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT ZACK WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT GIVEN THAT WE'RE CREATING THE RECORD RIGHT NOW THAT EXISTS, THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY SHORTEN TO CPI SO LONG AS EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS OR PARTICULARLY THE MAKERS OR CITY COUNCIL IN PLACING THIS ON THE BALLOT, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FORMULA THAT THE CITY USES RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.

SO IN THE EVENT OF AN INCREASE IN COSTS, I THINK CPI IS PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT INDEX IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THEIR CONSTRUCTION COSTS OR YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY INTERESTED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH CONSTRUCTION ACROSS BUILDING A PROJECT.

SO SOME A CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX AS OPPOSED TO CPI.

BUT SURE, THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO ADD IN REGARDS TO THE SPECIFIC INDEX THAT'S REFERENCED, THE ENGINEERING NEWS RECORD, THE WAY THAT THEY PROVIDE THEIR ESTIMATES, IT IS BY AN EXPANDED REGION.

SO LOS ANGELES IS IS ABOUT AS SPECIFIC OF AN INDEX RANGE THAT THEY PROVIDE.

STAFF CAN GO BACK AND RESEARCH FURTHER TO SEE IF THERE WOULD BE THE MORE CONSOLIDATED OR SPECIFIC TO THE SAN DIEGO REGION.

I SEE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER PUBLIC WORKS PAZ GOMEZ MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS.

PAZ GOMEZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT IS THE ONE THAT'S THE CLOSEST TO THE REGION, THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO THAT ARE SPECIFIED IN THE ENGINEERING NEWS RECORD.

ONE IS FOR SAN FRANCISCO AND ONE IS FOR LOS ANGELES.

HOWEVER, FOR BREVITY, I THINK REFERENCING JUST THE CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX THAT THOSE IN THE INDUSTRY WILL UNDERSTAND WHICH REGION WE WILL BE REFERENCING.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THE CONCERN REMAINS I MEAN, IT'S A TECHNICAL CONSIDERATION THAT STAFF MEMBERS ARE FAMILIAR WITH OR THOSE OF US IN THE INDUSTRY ARE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR COUNSEL.

BUT THE VOTER IN THE BALLOT BOX IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE SHORTENED OR NOT, BUT.

OKAY. MR. BLACKBURN, QUESTION.

YOU SAID THIS WAS A RECENT ESTIMATE.

HOW MUCH OF THE AND I'M GOING TO CALL IT A CUSHION, BUT HOW MUCH WAS THE ACTUAL COST EXPECTED, EXPECTED TO BE? AND THEN HOW MUCH WAS THAT? THE CUSHION FOR UNEXPECTED EXPENSES.

AND YOU JUST ESTIMATES.

THAT'S FINE WITH ME. YES, SIR.

I WOULD INDICATE APPROXIMATELY A 15% CONTINGENCY.

AND THIS ESTIMATE WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED PRIOR TO YOUR JANUARY 26, 2021 STAFF REPORT YOU RECEIVED ON THE THREE CONCEPTS, AND IT WAS DEVELOPED BY OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.

SO THIS IS BASED OFF OF CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS, PRELIMINARY, IF YOU WILL.

AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS 20.5 TO 21.4 MILLION.

AND SO BETWEEN THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 26, 2021 AND LATE APRIL OF THIS YEAR, THE CONSULTANT IN CONJUNCTION WITH STAFF RECOMMENDED INCREASING TO THE 22 TO 24 MILLION.

INCLUSIVE OF THAT 15% CONTINGENCY THAT I REFERENCED IN BOTH CASES IS THE 15% BASED ON THE 22 OR THE 24.

SO THE 15% IS BASED ON OVERALL CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

THE RANGE ITSELF WAS RAISED FROM THE 20.5 TO 21.4 BY 7% ON THE LOW END AND 12% ON THE HIGH END.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT.

FIRST, I'M GOING TO STAY FOCUSED JUST ON THE BALLOT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, BUT I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE PERHAPS PUT A SECOND PROJECT ON THE LIST, AND I'LL GIVE MY REASONS FOR THAT LATER.

ONE OF THE THINGS AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS OVER THE YEARS, AND SO WE'RE AT A MOMENT IN TIME WHERE OUR CODE OR ORDINANCE TELLS US THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE AN ESTIMATE. BUT AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, WE'RE ASKING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT.

TO GIVE THE SITTING COUNSEL THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO THERE'S STILL MORE THAN ONE DECISION TO BE MADE SOMETIME AFTER THE IF THE BALLOT MEASURE PASSES, THAT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL AND PUBLIC INPUT AS TO WHAT THE CERTAIN NUMBER WILL BE.

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WE WOULD BE BACK BEFORE COUNCIL ON AT LEAST TWO OCCASIONS FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS TO ADVERTISE THE PROJECT FOR BIDS, AND THEN SECONDLY, TO COME BACK AND REQUEST AWARD OF A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.

SO THAT COULD BE JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR OR IT COULD BE JANUARY OF 2030.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON A WHOLE HOST OF FACTORS, DOES IT NOT? I WOULD NOT PUSH IT OUT AS FAR AS JANUARY 2030.

OUR CURRENT PROJECTION IS TO HAVE THE PROJECT COMPLETED IN 2026.

SO IT COULD BE CERTAINLY A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS BEFORE BACK TO COUNCIL, ASKING FOR A WORD OF CONTRACT, BUT I WOULD NOT PUSH IT OUT AS FAR AS 2030.

IN YOUR EXAMPLE, AND THE ONLY REASON I USE THAT NUMBER, WE'RE IN AN ECONOMY WHERE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO.

AND I JUST PICKED THAT NUMBER AS IT COULD BE ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE, AND I WOULD JUST USE ILGA NAUGHTY AS AS AN EXAMPLE, WE GAVE THE GO AHEAD TO DO THAT.

AND THEN IT WAS SEVERAL YEARS LATER WHEN WE ACTUALLY COUNCIL PULLED THE TRIGGER TO SAY GO.

IT WASN'T IMMEDIATE.

SO I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER IS SITTING HERE GETS TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION AND IT MAY BE MORE OR IT MAY BE LESS.

THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS THAT COULD OR COULD NOT HAPPEN IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. I CANNOT ARGUE WITH THAT.

IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER YOU WANTED TO DEFER THE PROJECT TO A LATER DATE.

STAFF'S INTENT IS TO BRING IT BACK FOR YOUR REVIEW IN A TIMELY FASHION, AND THAT WOULD BE UP TO COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD FURTHER.

AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY IT WILL COME BACK.

AND SO I, FOR ONE, WOULD NOT CHANGE LANGUAGE TO LIMIT WHAT WHOEVER IS SITTING HERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO IN WHATEVER TIME FRAME THAT MAY BE REALITY.

SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE, I THINK, WITH WHERE THE LANGUAGE IS.

I'M VERY COMFORTABLE THAT WHOEVER IS SITTING ON THIS DAIS WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AT THAT THAT MOMENT OF TIME.

AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO TRY AND TIE ONE'S HANDS.

YOU KNOW, WE ALL UNDERSTAND ECONOMY, WE ALL UNDERSTAND NEEDS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

THE SECOND THING THAT I WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF OVER GOING BACK JUST OVER MY CAREER AND SITTING ON THE DAIS THAT YOU'RE MORE APT TO GET. THE CITIZENS TO SUPPORT A BALLOT INITIATIVE IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE ITEM ON ON THE BALLOT.

AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL OVER THE YEARS, BUT SOME OF THOSE HAVE COME AND GONE.

SOME OF THOSE, DUE TO LEGAL OPINION RECENTLY, DON'T HAVE TO BE.

VOTED ON OR BY THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S IT'S NOT THAT THAT IT WILL BE FUNDED DIFFERENTLY.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN ON GOAL SETTING FOR PART OF THE GOALS OF THE COUNCIL SINCE BACK IN, I THINK AT LEAST 28 WAS A PARK THAT WENT FROM TERRA TO LEUCADIA.

IT'S CONSIDERED CONSECUTIVELY BEEN ON THAT ON OUR TOP THREE OR TOP FIVE LIST.

AND I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

IT MIGHT NOT BE NEXT YEAR, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME TO GIVE THE COUNCIL THE ABILITY TO MOVE THAT FORWARD IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO, YOU KNOW, IN SPEAKING WITH STAFF, THIS DECISION COULD BE MADE IN, I THINK, TWO, THREE, THREE WEEKS FROM NOW AND THIS COULD BE ADDED TO IT. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, WE HAVE UNTIL AUGUST 12TH TO TRANSMIT THE RESOLUTION REQUEST.

SO IN THERE, SO WE HAVE PERHAPS 30 DAYS IN ORDER TO DO THIS.

SO I'M JUST ASKING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY.

IT'S EVEN TODAY, IT'S ONE OF OUR TOP GOALS IS THAT IS THAT PARK? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D WANT TO ADD INTO THIS AND MAKE IT SO YOU ONLY HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY ONCE YOU YOU WON'T SPEND THE MONEY TWICE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THERE'S AN INTEREST IN FROM MY COLLEAGUES? AND I'LL JUST START AT THE END WITH MR. NORBY. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO ADDRESS BOTH POINTS.

SO YOUR YOUR COMMENT ON THE POOL.

AND AS IT RELATES TO ARGONAUT BEING DELAYED SEVERAL YEARS, I BELIEVE THAT ARGONAUT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.

I'LL JUST SAY THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ASKED FOR MEASURE H AND IT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.

AND IF THAT HAPPENS HERE, WE'RE OKAY.

IF IT COMES IN UNDER BUDGET, WE'RE OKAY.

THERE'S NO PROBLEM. PESCO ASSUMING COUNCIL VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE TO AWARD A BID.

THE PROBLEM COMES IN IN THESE UNCERTAIN TIMES IS WHAT HAPPENS IF THE BID IS FOUR OR FIVE, $6 MILLION OVER.

AND AS OUR CITY MANAGER RELAYED AT THE TOP OF THIS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE THAT WE GO BACK OUT TO ANOTHER MEASURE H VOTE IF WE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH THE PROJECT.

AND I THINK THE MAIN GOAL IN ADDING THIS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IS TO PREVENT US, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THE COUNCIL WANT TO DO A POOL, IT IT IT REMOVES OR MAKES

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SO WE DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE, SOME WOULD SAY IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, PROBABLE THAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO CHANGE AND TO HAVE TO HAVE AN INDEX IN THERE THAT ALLOWS TO ADJUST IT EVEN IF THE LANGUAGE IS UNFAVORABLE.

I THINK THAT WE NEED THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE.

THAT'S THE FIRST ISSUE.

CAN I GET CLARITY ON THAT, PLEASE? SO WHEN WE USE THE WORD ORIGINALLY ESTIMATE OF 22 TO 24, IF IT'S 48 MILLION, IF IT PASSES AND IT COMES BACK AT 48 MILLION, THE COUNCIL WOULD STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPROVE IT.

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER VOTE JUST BECAUSE THEY MISSED THE ESTIMATE, WOULD THEY? I THINK SO, MAYOR, BECAUSE IT DOES SAY UP TO 24 MILLION.

AND THAT'S INTENDED TO BE A LIMITING LIMITING LANGUAGE.

NO, I'M I'M TALKING ABOUT TAKING THE UP TO OUT OF THERE AND PUTTING IT BACK LIKE YOU HAD IT ORIGINALLY.

IF THE UP TO YOU LANGUAGE IS TAKEN OUT OF THERE, THEN THEN IT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE.

BUT AGAIN, THE UP TO YOU LANGUAGE WAS JUST IN RESPONSE TO SOME QUESTIONS OR SOME COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE LANGUAGE OF THE INFLATOR. IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO SIMPLIFY THAT, TO JUST SAY ADJUSTED ANNUALLY BY THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN THE AREA CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX. I'M NOT WANTING TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE.

I'M WANTING TO GIVE WHATEVER BODY SITTING ON THIS DAIS FULL ABILITY TO BUILD SOMETHING WHENEVER THAT MOMENT IN TIME IS.

TODAY WE'RE TRYING TO BE HONEST, AND WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF 20 TO 24 MILLION FOR WHATEVER SET OF FACTORS.

IF WE CAN'T DO IT TODAY AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN FIVE YEARS AND IT DOESN'T FALL IN THIS RANGE, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PUT THAT COUNCIL BACK IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY HAD TO GO OUT TO A VOTE? SURE.

SO IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

SO IN A MAYBE A WORST CASE SCENARIO OF A TEN YEAR DELAY AND THE PROJECT COMES BACK, AND AS THE MAYOR SUGGESTED, IT'S JUST WE HAVE A COST RANGE IN THERE, BUT NO TOP NUMBER OR NO ESCALATOR COMES BACK.

IT'S 40 MILLION JUST THROWING A NUMBER OUT THERE.

BUT IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN 22 OR 24 MILLION.

WOULD THAT REQUIRE A FUTURE COUNCIL? I MEAN, WOULD THAT REQUIRE A VOTE, A MEASURE VOTE? BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO ARGUE WE HAVE THIS FOR A REASON.

IF IT'S OVER $1,000,000, YOUR ESTIMATE WAS 22, 24, IT'S 40.

WOULD THAT REQUIRE A VOTE OR DOES THAT GIVE COUNCIL THE AUTHORITY TO SAY YAY OR NAY, REGARDLESS OF A DOLLAR COST ON THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE? SO IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO AVOID THE CONCERN ALTOGETHER, THE OTHER THE OTHER WAY THE COUNCIL HAS DEALT WITH IN THE PAST IS PUT ON A BALLOT MEASURE THAT EXEMPTS PROJECT FROM PROPOSITION EIGHT, WHERE YOU STRUCTURE IT SO THAT THAT PROPOSITION DOESN'T APPLY TO THE PROJECT.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OVER $1,000,000 ON THE PROJECT OR YEAH OR YEAH, SO OR I THINK IT'S BEEN WORDED PREVIOUSLY.

LIKE LIST OF PROJECTS ARE PROP H DOESN'T APPLY TO IT OR HOWEVER WE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE MAGIC WORDS ARE.

BUT THEN YOU DON'T EVEN GET TO THE DISCUSSION OF A MEETING.

I REMEMBER THAT I THINK IT WAS THREE FACILITIES THAT WERE EXEMPTED PUBLIC SAFETY AND.

YEAH. AND THEN THE SECOND HALF, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

THE SECOND ISSUE IS THAT I THINK THAT THIS THE SOUTH CARLSBAD COASTLINE PARK ROAD ADAPTATION PROJECT IS A PROJECT THAT IS NOT NEAR THE FINISH LINE ON THE HORIZON.

I THINK THE TERRA MA PIECE IS GOING TO COME FIRST AROUND PALOMAR AIRPORT NECESSARY TO DO.

AND SO THE SUGGESTION OF PUTTING THAT ON THERE AS WELL, IT'S THE SAME ISSUE IN TERMS OF COST, NOT KNOWING WHAT THE COST OF THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO BE AND ASKING THE CITIZENS TO PAY FOR A NUMBER THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT HASN'T BEEN DEFINED WITH ANY SORT OF ESTIMATES, EVEN EVEN TO THIS LEVEL.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN, QUITE FRANKLY.

IF I MAY INTERJECT, TOO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, BECAUSE THIS WASN'T PART OF THE NOTICE AGENDA AND THE PUBLIC ISN'T AWARE THAT THE COUNCIL IS SPEAKING ON IT.

WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO BRING THIS BACK.

I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN REMINDED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

I SHOULD HAVE NOT JUST NOT TALKED ABOUT IT.

HEY HEY. OC SO JUST TO SPEAK TO THE MAYOR'S TWO POINTS BRIEFLY, I DO THINK THAT HAVING A COST RANGE IN THE BALLOT MEASURE IS WHAT THE PUBLIC INTENDED BY EVEN HAVING US APPROVE PROJECTS OVER $1,000,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

OF COURSE, THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.

AND IF THAT $1 MILLION WERE ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION TODAY, IT WOULD BE A LOT HIGHER.

BUT I THINK THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE BACK IN THE DAY, PEOPLE FELT THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE MORE OF A SAY IN SOME OF THE BIG EXPENDITURES, BIG CAPITAL

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AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC'S GREAT INTEREST.

I'M ACTUALLY REALLY SURPRISED THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON, BECAUSE WE HAVE RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT SO MANY OTHER TIMES FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE MONROE STREET POOL AND WANT TO HAVE THIS BUILT.

SO I LIKE THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'VE MADE, THE RANGE OF 22, UP TO 24 MILLION.

I THINK IT PROVIDES THAT KIND OF CLARITY FOR THE PUBLIC.

I DID EXPRESS ALREADY THAT THE EXTRA LANGUAGE IS BULKY AND LONG AND CONFUSES VOTERS, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA THAT I JUST HEARD AND I HAD WRITTEN DOWN THE WORD REGIONAL, IF WE COULD SAY ADJUSTED ANNUALLY BY THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN THE REGIONAL CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX OR THE AREA, YOU KNOW, EITHER ONE, I THINK IT'S THE SAME IDEA. TAKE OUT ANY REFERENCE TO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO CONFUSE PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL SAY, THIS IS IN LOS ANGELES, THIS IS CARLSBAD.

WHY ARE WE USING THEIR THEIR COST INDEX? SO LET'S JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE AND BE VERY CLEAR THAT WE ARE ASKING THE VOTERS TO APPROVE SPENDING IN THE CITY FOR THE MONROE STREET POOL PROJECT FOR AN ESTIMATED COST RANGE OF 22, UP TO $24 MILLION.

THAT ACTUALLY MATCHES THE LANGUAGE WE'VE HAD IN PREVIOUS BALLOT MEASURES THAT DID THE SAME THING.

IT'S THE SAME FORMAT.

SO I THINK THAT THAT IT'S GOOD.

AND AS FOR THE OTHER, THE I GUESS WHAT COULD BE A MINUTE MOTION TO TO HAVE ANOTHER BALLOT MEASURE.

I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING TO HAVE TWO BALLOT MEASURES.

AND I, I DO THINK THAT IT HELPS THE PUBLIC GET EXCITED ABOUT OUR PROJECTS WHEN WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE.

BUT BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AROUND THIS ONE.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE JUST TO DRIVE THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY VOTE.

AND I DON'T THINK THE OTHER PROJECT IS NEAR READINESS TO TO HAVE THAT ADDED.

SO I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT MINUTE MOTION.

DR.. SURE.

THANK YOU. SO I'LL START OFF WITH THE LANGUAGE HERE AS WELL.

I AM COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH REGARDS TO HAVING THIS PARTICULAR ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE AND THEN ALSO ADJUSTING THAT LAST PART TO SOMETHING SIMPLER, WHICH I KNOW THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED THE OTHER PIECE I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING TRANSPARENT WITH REGARDS TO THE RANGE.

I THINK JUST SAYING NOT TO EXCEED OR AMOUNT TO EXCEED 1 MILLION AND THEN NOT GIVING A COST RANGE AT ALL ALLOWS FOR FOLKS TO THINK THAT WE MIGHT BE WILLING TO SPEND WHATEVER.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOTED, THAT WE REALLY WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY COST.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THAT INFLATIONARY FACTOR INCORPORATED INTO THE LANGUAGE SO THAT IF IT DOES NEED TO EXCEED THAT UP TO 24, IT'S BASED ON INFLATIONARY COSTS WITH REGARDS TO CONSTRUCTION.

SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PARTICULAR OPTION.

I TOO WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

FOR THE OTHER QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A NEAR COMPLETION.

THERE WOULD BE OTHER MEASURES OR PROJECTS THAT I WOULD THINK WOULD MAYBE GET LUMPED IN WITH WITH THAT SPECIFICALLY, FOR INSTANCE, CITY HALL LOCATIONS OR WHATEVER ELSE.

AT SOME POINT.

I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST NOT THERE WITH SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS.

SO I TOO FOR NOW FEEL THAT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST TIME FOR US TO INCORPORATE THAT.

MR. BLACKMAN LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS AND I'M NOT REALLY MARRIED TO ANY OF THESE IDEAS, BUT LET ME JUST I'LL JUST SHARE MY STRATEGY AND MY THOUGHT PROCESS. I WANT THEM IN WHIRLPOOL BALLOT MEASURE TO PASS.

MY FIRST CONCERN IS I WANT IT TO BE AS SIMPLY WORDED AS POSSIBLE WHEN ONE OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS MADE THE COMMENT, IF YOU HAVE TOO MANY WORDS OR TOO MANY ADDITIONS, IT STARTS TO GET EASIER TO SAY NO.

I WANT TO KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE AND I WANT TO KEEP IT THE ORIGINAL WORDING.

BUT I ALSO HAVE MY NEXT CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC TO THE VERY NORTH END OF THE CITY.

AND I'M CONCERNED THAT IF THIS IS THE ONLY ISSUE ON THE BALLOT, PEOPLE WHO LIVE FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM MONROE STREET POOL MAY BE MORE APT TO VOTE NO BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T ALL GONE NAUGHTY POOL OR THEY'RE JUST SO FAR AWAY FROM IT WHEN THEY LIVE FURTHER IN THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY THAT IT JUST DOESN'T INTEREST THEM.

AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE OF US GETTING A NO VOTE ON THIS.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF WE ADD THE I'LL JUST CALL IT THE HIGHWAY 101 PARK, IF WE ADD THAT TO IT, THAT GIVES PEOPLE MORE OF AN IDEA OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD

[00:55:07]

SO I THINK THAT THAT HELPS INCREASE THE CHANCES OF MONROE STREET POOL PASSING.

BUT IT'S NOT JUST A STRATEGY JUST TO GET A YES VOTE FOR MONROE STREET POOL.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF WE ASK ABOUT DOES THE CITY ALSO OR THE RESIDENTS WANT TO ALLOW THE CITY TO SPEND MONEY ON THIS HIGHWAY 1 TO 1 PARK, THAT THAT NOW WE HAVE THAT IN OUR POCKET AND WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND IT.

AND WE COULD AND MAYBE EVENTUALLY WE'LL NEVER SPEND IT.

BUT IT GIVES US THE ABILITY FOR THE FUTURE COUNCILS TO HAVE THAT ALREADY VOTED ON AND KNOW WHAT THE DIRECTION THEY CAN OR CAN'T GO FOR THE FUTURE. SO THESE ARE A COUPLE OF MY, MY, MY THOUGHTS.

BUT THE ONLY THING I FEEL STRONGLY ON IS THAT WE LEAVE THE WORDING THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY WORDED.

SO IT WOULD BE THE SIMPLEST AND EASIEST FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.

AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE MAYOR WHEN HE SAYS IF IT ENDS UP BEING 24 AND A HALF OR 25, IT COMES BACK TO A COUNCIL WHO'LL BE HERE THREE YEARS FROM NOW OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW TO MAKE THAT DECISION OF WHETHER THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEING SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT THE ESTIMATE IS.

DR.. YEAH.

JUST, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF OUR CITY MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

SO. I'LL LEAD WITH AT LEAST A COMMENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I SPECIFICALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING FORWARD WITH ONE PARTICULAR MEASURE THAT WE WOULD ADD ON OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD ADD ON TO BE VOTED ON WITH REGARDS TO THIS.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE AROUND IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY.

I KNOW IT HAS TO BE BROUGHT BACK ANYWAYS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN AGENDA IZED NECESSARILY.

I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE AND EASIER IF YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN ITEMS THAT COULD THAT WOULD BE IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PURVIEW OF WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO GO OUT AND ASK FOR A VOTE.

AND SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, I MENTIONED CITY HALL LOCATIONS OR WHATEVER ELSE IT MAY BE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE COULD BRING BACK A PLATE OF OPTIONS THAT WE CAN CHOOSE FROM JUST SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE THAT WE'RE KIND OF MOVING FORWARD.

AND CAN I RESPOND FIRST? AND THEN OBVIOUSLY I WAS JUST LOOKING AT GOALS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR MULTIPLE YEARS THAT MANY DIFFERENT COUNCILS HAVE HAD.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT ISN'T JUST BEEN PUT ON THE PLATE IN THE LAST YEAR OR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

THIS ONE'S BEEN 2008, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE OTHER ONE THAT I THINK SHOULD BE ON HERE.

BUT IT IS YOU KNOW, THE ATTORNEY SAYS WE DO NOT NEED TO DO THAT NOW, OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE HOPED SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE BROUGHT THAT ONE UP.

BUT WHEN I GO BACK TEN, 15 YEARS AND THINK ABOUT, HEY, THOSE COUNCILS, THIS COUNCIL HAVE SET THESE GOALS TO ME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SET A GOAL, THEN YOU NEED TO GET BEHIND IT AND SAY, HEY, I'M WILLING TO PUT IT OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC TO SAY, WILL YOU HELP US FINANCE THIS? IF THAT WAS MY POINT.

AND EVERY TIME YOU GO OUT TO TO THE BALLOT, IT'S A NUMBER.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE COSTS WITH EACH THING THAT WE ADD TO THE BALLOT AS WELL.

AND WE RECEIVED THAT IN OUR EMAIL MEMO.

AND SO I THINK FOR ME, IT'S ABOUT BEING STRATEGIC ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO PUT ON THERE, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE STILL SPENDING THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S LIKE REGARDLESS OF IF WE END UP SPENDING IT WITH THIS PARTICULAR ONE OR IF WE GO OUT AND DO IT AGAIN, YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY.

SO I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE PUT ON THERE BECAUSE WE WILL BE ADDING COSTS TO IT, WHETHER IT'S A FEW THOUSAND, I CAN'T I'M NOT GOING TO QUOTE THE NUMBER, BUT I KNOW IT'S DEFINITELY TENS OF THOUSANDS THAT WOULD BE ADDED ON TO WHATEVER WE END UP VOTING ON.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CAN WE ASK THAT QUESTION? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO ADD A DOLLAR.

IT'S ALL ONE BALLOT YOU HAVE.

WE WHEN WE DID THE LAST BALLOT, WE HAD FIVE ITEMS ON IT AND IT WAS ONE NUMBER FIVE CITY CLERK.

THE ESTIMATE PROVIDED BY THE ROV WAS ACTUALLY FOR ONE MEASURE ON THE BALLOT.

IF WE WERE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL MEASURE, THERE MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL COST AS THE BALLOT MEASURE COSTS ARE SHARED AMONG THE COUNTY'S OTHER MEASURES THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE PLACED AS WELL AS OTHER SEATS.

THE MORE THAT THERE'S ON THERE, THE LESS THAT IT COSTS.

HOWEVER, THIS THIS ACTUAL ESTIMATE WAS FOR ONE.

SO I'M NOT ASKING TO PUT TWO MEASURES ON.

I'M ASKING TO PUT ONE MEASURE ON WITH TWO ITEMS IN THE MEASURE.

AND COUNSEL.

I KNOW THE CITY ATTORNEY MADE MENTION OF THIS.

THE ITEM BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IS MONROE POOLE AND THEN SETTING THE ELECTION.

IF COUNCIL WERE TO GIVE US ADDITIONAL DIRECTION TO RETURN THIS ITEM TO STAFF, THEN WE COULD END UP HAVING A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS.

[01:00:13]

JUST HEARING MY COLLEAGUES AND MY CONVERSATION AND BEING REFLECTIVE UPON THIS COUNCIL'S VOTE ON THIS ISSUE LAST YEAR OR THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL'S VOTE ON THIS ISSUE LAST YEAR, I WOULD WANT THIS TO STAND ALONE ON THE BALLOT AND WITH THE WORDING THAT IS KIND OF MORE GENERAL IN NATURE IN TERMS OF AREA OR REGIONAL ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX.

I WOULD WANT IT TO STAND ALONE.

HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I DO BELIEVE HOPEFULLY THAT CITY HALL IS COMING BACK TO THIS BOARD AND WE CAN DISCUSS WHETHER THAT SHOULD GO ON AND WHAT FORM AND WHAT THE QUESTION IS THE BALLOT AND THAT WE CAN BRING THIS CONCEPT BACK IN TERMS OF DIRECTING STAFF TO BRING BACK A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SOUTH HIGHWAY 101 ISSUE.

IN WHAT FORM IS IT? ADVISORY? IS THERE A NUMBER ATTACHED TO IT? WHATEVER. AND WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT A AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.

I'D BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THOSE TWO ITEMS COMING BACK AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.

WHEN YOU SAY THAT MISSIONARY, ARE YOU TALKING SO IT COULD BE ON THE BALLOT FOR THIS COMING YEAR? YEAH. OR A SUBTERFUGE.

LOOK, I TRUST OUR PUBLIC NUMBER ONE, AND I DON'T LIKE LOADING UP TWO OR THREE ITEMS. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T LIKE LOADING UP CITY HALL IN SOUTH CARLSBAD ON THE SAME BALLOT ITEM.

THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS. AND I WOULDN'T WANT I WOULDN'T LIKE LOADING UP MONROE STREET POOL AND CITY HALL ON THE SAME BALLOT OR MONROE STREET POOL AND SOUTH HIGHWAY 101.

SO THE COST OF GETTING AN ITEM ADDED TO A GENERAL SCHEDULE ELECTION IS SO SMALL.

I MEAN, IT'S IT'S 50 GRAND OR 85 GRAND OR 35 GRAND.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT A 800,000 NUMBER OR SOMETHING.

IT ALMOST IS IRRELEVANT TO ME TO ASK THE QUESTION THE RIGHT WAY AND TRUST OUR CITIZENS TO GIVE US THEIR RESPONSES TO TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA.

YES. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT THE SUGGESTION WAS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT BALLOT MEASURE.

BUT I UNDERSTAND NOW THAT THE SUGGESTION FROM THE MAYOR WAS TO INCLUDE A DIFFERENT PROJECT IN THIS BALLOT MEASURE.

AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, THAT THIS ONE DEFINITELY SHOULD STAND ALONE.

WE'VE ALREADY VOTED THAT WE WANTED TO TO TO PUSH THIS PROJECT FORWARD.

AND WE WERE PRETTY UNANIMOUS ABOUT THAT.

IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF HAVING THIS VOTE ABOUT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE AND THE DATE OF THE ELECTION AND AND THE EXACT KIND OF WORDING HERE.

AND I STAND BY MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS THAT THAT I REALLY LIKE THIS.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OUT THE LOS ANGELES ENGINEERING NEWS RECORD AND REPLACE THAT WITH EITHER REGIONAL OR AREA WHATEVER IS APPROPRIATE.

I ALSO THINK THAT TO ADDRESS THE THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN ABOUT SOUTH CARLSBAD, I THINK THAT IN THE WORDING WE SHOULD DESCRIBE, WE'VE GOT TWO POOLS AND YOU KNOW, IN THE WORDING OF THE I GUESS IT'S CALLED THE BALLOT ARGUMENT WHEN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THIS MEASURE MEANS, WE WILL ALREADY BE DOING THAT.

I KNOW DESCRIBING THAT WE HAVE A NURSERY POOL IN ARGONAUT AND I'M SURE WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHY WHY WE VOTED TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR THE REPLACEMENT AND HOW SIGNIFICANT THAT IS.

SO I THINK IT WILL BE EXPLAINED AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE THROUGHOUT CARLSBAD SWIM IN THOSE TWO POOLS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TWO CITY POOLS AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE HEAVILY USED.

THANK YOU. DR..

ANY OTHER COMMENT? NO, I'M GOOD, THANKS.

OKAY. MR. BLACKBURN ANY OTHER COMMENT? I COULD STEP AWAY FROM HAVING TWO ISSUES ON THE BALLOT AND.

SEE WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY THE PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY ARE GOING TO VOTE, BUT I GUESS IT'LL JUST BE UP TO THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION.

BUT I DO FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE SHOULD LEAVE THE WORDING, THE ORIGINAL WORDING.

I THINK EVERY WORD WE PUT ON AFTER THAT WITH THESE ESCALATORS CREATES QUESTIONS IN PEOPLE'S MINDS.

AND WHEN THERE'S A QUESTION IN SOMEBODY'S MIND, THEY'RE APT TO VOTE NO.

OKAY. DR..

YES. I DO THINK, THOUGH, I MEAN, WE COULD REMOVE THE ESCALATOR, HOWEVER, THEN IT WOULD BE A RANGE OF UP TO.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T EVEN WANT THAT.

WELL, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT MOTION.

SO IF THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.

I WANT TO REINFORCE WHAT I SAID.

MY THE ORIGINAL DID NOT INCLUDE UP TO IT, SAID AN ESTIMATE OF AND SHE DISAGREED WITH YOU.

SO. SO DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION SO WE CAN MOVE THIS ALONG?

[01:05:06]

SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ALTERNATIVE VALID LANGUAGE BALLOT LANGUAGE.

NUMBER TWO, WITH THE CHANGES NOTED BY THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY TO THE LATTER PART OF THIS WHICH IS THE ADJUSTED AN ALIBI TO BE AND I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THAT SPECIFICALLY.

I BELIEVE IF I'M READING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE'S BODY LANGUAGE CORRECTLY, HIS PREFERENCE WAS FOR A REGIONAL CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX.

OKAY. SO WITH WITH THAT LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY IN THE ALTERNATIVE BALLOT LANGUAGE SECOND.

OKAY. CALL FOR THE QUESTION AND.

OH, WELL, I WILL TAKE THEM SEPARATELY.

I KNOW THERE'S OTHER ITEMS. OKAY. PASSES THREE TO.

NEXT. ARE YOU READY FOR THE MOTION FOR THE OTHER THREE? YEAH. MOVE.

ADOPTION OF THE REMAINING THREE RESOLUTIONS CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

FOR ONE. OKAY.

[14. MAYORAL APPOINTMENT OF ONE MEMBER TO THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES]

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ITEM 14? WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MAYOR.

THE SPEAKER IS LAUREL MORAN.

HELLO COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS LAURA MORAN AND I'M A FINALIST OR LUCKY TO BE FINALIST FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD POSITION.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR IN PERSON, INTRODUCE MYSELF AND LET YOU KNOW MY INTERESTS IN ABOUT THE POSITION.

I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD SINCE MY HUSBAND AND I PURCHASED OUR FIRST HOME HERE IN 1993.

WE STILL RESIDE AT THAT PLACE ON KLEBER LANE, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT THREE.

I CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS CITY AND THE LIBRARY SYSTEM AND I FEEL IT WOULD BE A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD.

I AM PRESENTLY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF LEGAL INFORMATION MANAGEMENT AT THE SAN DIEGO LAW LIBRARY.

I'VE BEEN A LIBRARIAN, I THINK, OVER 25 YEARS WHEN IT COUNTED TODAY.

THIS MADE ME COUNT.

AND I'M INFORMED AND KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT LIBRARY BUDGETS, LIBRARY ISSUES, AND STATE AND LOCAL LAWS RELATED TO LIBRARIES.

I FEEL THAT I COULD BRING THE EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE TO BEAR AS BEING A COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE LIBRARY BOARD.

I'M ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT LIBRARY ISSUES, AND AT THIS POINT IN MY LIBRARY CAREER, I HAVE BEEN COMMUTING DOWNTOWN FOR A LOT OF YEARS.

THE HYBRID HAS BEEN VERY NICE TO ME BECAUSE I CAN KIND OF MAKE MY OWN SCHEDULE AND ACTUALLY DO THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE, CARLSBAD.

SO IT'S KIND OF NICE.

I'M OPEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS.

THEN MY NOMINATION IS LAURA MORIN.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

THEN I GREW UP AGAIN.

DO IT AGAIN. AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

I THINK I'D LEARN HOW TO USE THIS THING.

[15. MAYORAL APPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS TO THE BEACH PRESERVATION COMMISSION]

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, MAYOR.

OKAY. THEN MY FIRST APPOINTMENT WOULD BE TO MICHAEL CORRIGAN.

HE'S SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT.

CAN WE DO THEM BOTH AT ONCE? AND THEN MY SECOND WOULD BE KEVIN SHORTS.

I'M HOPING THAT I'M SAYING THAT.

RIGHT. DISTRICT TWO.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

GOT IT. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS COMMENTS AND WE'LL START WITH YOU, MR.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

I JUST WANT TO SHOULD THERE BE A MINUTE MOTION PUT ON THE FLOOR TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS? I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED ONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SOUTH CARLSBAD.

YOU KNOW, SECTION. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT MOTION, BUT MY COMMENTS WOULD BE NUMBER ONE.

TODAY'S SUMMER SOLSTICE, THE SUMMER STARTS, WHICH IS GREAT.

[01:10:02]

BUT IT'S A GREAT TIME OF THE YEAR.

I WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT I'LL BE MISSING THE NEXT TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND SO I HAVE SOME FAMILY TRAVEL.

AND THOSE TRAVEL DATES WERE NOT ANYTHING THAT I HAD THE ABILITY TO CONTROL IN TERMS OF WHEN THE DATES WOULD HAPPEN.

VERY IMPORTANT FOR FAMILY REASONS.

AND SO I'LL BE MAKING SOME SOME PLANS OR I'LL BE TRAVELING.

I'VE ALREADY MADE THE PLANS AND WILL BE MISSING THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR NEXT TO COUNCIL MEETINGS.

COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA.

YES, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.

WE'VE GOT SOME I HAVE SOME BOARD MEETINGS THAT I'M ATTENDING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THE ENCINO WASTEWATER AUTHORITY HAS A MEETING TOMORROW.

CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE HAS A MEETING ON THURSDAY.

IT'S VERY BUSY. IT IS A START OF SUMMER AND IT'S ALSO VERY BUSY.

SO HARD TO STAY INDOORS ON THOSE ZOOMS WHEN WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT SUCH BEAUTIFUL WEATHER.

I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE CONCERTS IN THE PARK.

THE FIRST TWO ARE IN MY DISTRICT AT STAGECOACH PARK STARTING THIS FRIDAY AND THEN JULY 1ST.

THAT IS THE NEXT ONE.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED AND I WILL BE THERE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE.

THANK YOU, DR.

PATEL. YES, THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A RESTFUL FATHER'S DAY FOR ALL THE FATHERS OUT THERE.

OTHER THAN THAT, HAVE A GOOD REST OF THE EVENING.

COUNCILMEMBER BLACKBURN.

NOTHING. THANK YOU. OKAY.

IN THE SAME, I DO HAVE A WATER SAND COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY MEETING THURSDAY AND A SANDAG MEETING FRIDAY.

SO THOSE TO COME WITH THAT I HAVE.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

YOU MAY FIND MORE THAN THREE OF US THIS THURSDAY, JUNE 30TH, 1130 TO 130.

IT IS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD EMPLOYEE SUMMER BARBECUE, AND THAT'S AT THE AVERA COMMUNITY PARK AT 6435 AMBROSIA LANE HERE IN CARLSBAD.

MR. CHADWICK. IN MAY.

JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT'S FOR JUNE 30TH.

WHAT DID I SAY THIS THURSDAY? OH, I'M SORRY. JUNE 30TH.

EXCUSE ME.

HEY, LAST. LAST WEEK I SAID IT WAS 2020.

SO NOTHING REPORTS HER OC, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OR COUNCIL.

NOTHING FOR ME. THANK YOU.

YEAH. CITY CLERK.

NOTHING. THANK YOU. OKAY, WITH THAT, WE STAND ADJOURNED.

IS THIS THE GUY WHO WAS BIG SHOT IN THE MILITARY?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.