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MEETING TO ORDER. CLERK, PLEASE TAKE ROLL.

[CALL TO ORDER]

COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL.

HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM BLACKBURN.

PRESENT. AND MAYOR HALL IS ABSENT FOR THE RECORD.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? OKAY. WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? FACE THE FLAG.

PLACE YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART.

AND IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

NEXT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

AND WE HAVE NO MINUTES.

THAT WAS EASY.

[PRESENTATIONS]

PRESENTATIONS. LET'S START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION FOR NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH, PLEASE.

YES, HAPPY TO.

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE ESTHER LAND MANAGEMENT ANALYST AND ALSO A MEMBER OF THE DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION COMMITTEE TO STAND AT THE PODIUM.

AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S JOINING YOU IS WELCOME TO STAND WITH YOU OR BEHIND YOU.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

THIS PROCLAMATION, I'M DELIGHTED TO READ, IS FOR NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH, OCTOBER 2022, AND I'LL READ THE WHEREAS'.

WHEREAS, THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2022 IS DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH TO CELEBRATE AND RECOGNIZE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

AND WHEREAS, THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT ADA, PASSED 32 YEARS AGO, MOVED OUR NATION CLOSER TO FULFILLING ITS FOUNDATIONAL PROMISE OF LIBERTY, JUSTICE, DIGNITY AND EQUALITY FOR ALL.

AND WHEREAS, WITH THE RECOGNITION OF NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH, IT IS A CHANCE FOR US TO CELEBRATE WORKERS WITH DISABILITIES AND RECOMMIT OURSELVES TO DISMANTLING BARRIERS TO ACCESS AND INCLUSION IN THE WORKPLACE.

AND. WHEREAS, IT IS THE SHARED RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL OF US TO ENSURE THAT WORKERS WITH DISABILITIES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIND JOBS AND BUILD SUCCESSFUL LIVES.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, COUNCIL MEMBER TERESA ACOSTA, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2022 AS NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

CONGRATULATIONS, AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM, HONORABLE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME FOR US TO CELEBRATE, WELCOME, RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR DIVERSE WORKFORCE.

TO CELEBRATE AND PROCLAIM THAT TODAY IS GOING TO BE THE CELEBRATION OF THE NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH.

I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WHEN EVERYBODY IS EMPOWERED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR SKILLS AND THEIR TALENTS, THERE'S NO LIMIT TO WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE AS AN ORGANIZATION. IT IS A FACT THAT NO MATTER HOW LONG WE LIVE, AT ANY POINT IN TIME, WHETHER IT'S MYSELF, YOU, YOUR FRIENDS OR YOUR FAMILY, OUR ABILITIES OUTSIDE OF THE TYPICAL CAN DIVERT AT ANY MOMENT'S NOTICE, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH SURGERY, A CHANGE IN LIFE, OR A TERMINAL ILLNESS.

AND THAT IS WHY THE COMMITTEE AND THE CITY, WE CONTINUE AND WE STRIVE TO NOT ONLY NORMALIZE BUT CELEBRATE THE CONVERSATION AROUND DIFFERENT ABILITIES WITHIN THE WORKFORCE TO CREATE A WORKFORCE THAT IS REFLECTING OF RESPECTFULNESS AND DIGNITY AND WELCOMING TO EVERY WALK OF LIFE THAT ENTERS THROUGH CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT NEXT PRESENTATION WILL BE PRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL AND THIS IS FOR RECOGNITION OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY.

GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I WILL INVITE NANCY MAGPUSAO BURKE TO OUR PODIUM.

SHE'S OUR SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION COMMITTEE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND READ OUR PROCLAMATION AND THEN I'LL LET NANCY SAY A FEW WORDS.

SO WHEREAS ON INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD CELEBRATES THE INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AND RESILIENCE OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES AND RECOGNIZES THEIR INHERENT SOVEREIGNTY. AND WHEREAS, AMERICAN INDIANS OF THE CARLSBAD REGION, PARTICULARLY THE LUISEÑO, PAYÓMKAWICHUM, AND [INAUDIBLE] COMMUNITIES HAVE BUILT VIBRANT AND DIVERSE CULTURES, SAFEGUARDING LAND, LANGUAGE, SPIRIT, KNOWLEDGE AND TRADITIONS ACROSS THE GENERATIONS. AND WHEREAS, AS A RECENT WHITE HOUSE RESOLUTION PROCLAIMED FOR GENERATIONS, FEDERAL POLICIES SYSTEMATICALLY SOUGHT TO ASSIMILATE AND DISPLACE

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NATIVE PEOPLE AND ERADICATE NATIVE CULTURES.

AND WHEREAS, THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT NATIVE PEOPLES HAVE MADE THROUGHOUT HISTORY AND PUBLIC SERVICE, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, SCHOLARSHIP, THE ARTS AND COUNTLESS OTHER FIELDS ARE INTEGRAL TO OUR NATION, OUR CULTURE AND OUR SOCIETY, INCLUDING SERVING IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES WITH DISTINCTION AND HONOR.

AND WHEREAS, ON INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY, WE HONOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S FIRST INHABITANTS AND THE TRIBAL NATIONS THAT CONTINUE TO THRIVE TODAY.

AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CELEBRATE AND RECOGNIZE THE MANY INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES AND CULTURES THAT MAKE UP OUR GREAT CITY.

THEREFORE, I, COUNCIL MEMBER PRIYA BHAT-PATEL, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, HEREBY PROCLAIM MONDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2022 AS INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, AND WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OFF TO MS. MAGPUSAO. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL.

GOOD EVENING, ALL. I AM NANCY MAGPUSAO BURKE AND I'M HONORED TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION AND READ THESE REMARKS ON BEHALF OF STEPHEN EVANS AND MYSELF.

STEPHEN EVANS SAYS I'M A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'M SORRY. I'M UNABLE TO BE PRESENT TONIGHT AS I TEND TO FAMILY NEEDS.

I AM A MEMBER OF THE [INAUDIBLE] TRIBAL TOWN CREEK TRIBE OF THE MUSCOGEE NATION.

MY FATHER'S FAMILY STILL LIVES IN OKLAHOMA, HOME OF SEVERAL NATIVE TRIBES.

I HAVE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MANY EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND SEEING HOW WELL WE ALL WORK TOGETHER IS TRULY AMAZING.

SEEING EMPLOYEES WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER AND COOPERATE WITH ONE ANOTHER IS ONE OF THE GREATEST ASSETS TO THE CITY.

MY FIVE YEARS IN THE MARINE CORPS HELPED ME UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE VALUE OF INCLUSION.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR TO BE SELECTED TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION AND FOR REPRESENTING THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE WITH TIES TO NATIVES AND COMMUNITY WHERE WE GET TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.

I AM PROUD TO BE PART OF TEAM CARLSBAD.

NOW, I, NANCY, AM ALSO HONORED TO RECEIVE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY PROCLAMATION TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE LUISEÑO, PAYÓMKAWICHUM, [INAUDIBLE] COMMUNITIES, THE ORIGINAL STEWARDS OF THE LOCAL LAND AND BEYOND SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL.

AS ONE WITH ANCESTRAL INDIGENOUS ROOTS IN MY OWN ETHNIC CULTURE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF BELONGING AND THE IMPACT OF COLONIZATION.

MAY INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY BE A REMINDER YEAR ROUND OF THE MYRIAD CONTRIBUTIONS IN PUBLIC SERVICE, AGRICULTURE, ARTS, EDUCATION, TECHNOLOGY.

AND TO HELP AMPLIFY VOICES OF OUR DIVERSE NATIVE NATIONS.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, LIKE MANY OTHERS BEFORE ME AND TODAY, THE PROCLAMATION SUPPORTS THE VALUE OF SHARING AND MAKING KNOWN OUR LESSONS, STORIES AND OUR CONNECTION TO INDIGENOUS HERITAGE AND ACHIEVEMENTS.

THANK YOU.

I GET TO READ THE NEXT PROCLAMATION.

THIS WILL BE IN RECOGNITION OF NATIONAL ARTS AND HUMANITIES MONTH.

I INVITE SUZANNE SMITHSON TO COME TO THE PODIUM PLEASE.

THE PROCLAMATION SAYS THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES EMBODY THE WISDOM, INTELLECT AND IMAGINATION OF HUMANKIND ENHANCING AND ENRICHING OUR COMMUNITY.

THE CREATIVE INDUSTRIES ARE VITAL SECTORS OF OUR ECONOMY, CREATING JOBS AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT HELP MAKE COMMUNITIES ATTRACTIVE FOR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS DEMONSTRATED A VIBRANT HISTORY IN SUPPORTING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ARTS IN THE LIVES AND HEALTH OF OUR THRIVING COMMUNITY.

THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT FOSTERS THE COMMUNITY'S CONNECTION TO LITERATURE, VISUAL AND PERFORMING ARTS, AND ULTIMATELY WITH EACH OTHER AS AN AFFIRMATION OF OUR SHARED HUMANITY.

THE CITY OF CARLSBAD ALSO RECOGNIZES THAT THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES CELEBRATE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION AS ESSENTIAL VALUES IN DAILY LIFE.

I THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER AS NATIONAL ARTS AND HUMANITIES MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. AND, SUZANNE, I INVITE YOU TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.

AS WAS NOTED, I AM SUZANNE SMITHSON, THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DIRECTOR.

I APPRECIATE THE PROCLAMATION AND HONOR OF OCTOBER BEING NATIONAL ARTS AND HUMANITIES MONTH.

IT IS THE LARGEST NATIONAL CELEBRATION OF THE ARTS AND AS A NATION, AND WE JOIN TOGETHER TO RECOGNIZE THE POSITIVE IMPACT OF ARTS AND CULTURE IN ALL OF OUR LIVES.

HERE IN CARLSBAD, THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT STRIVES YEAR ROUND TO PROMOTE THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES AS CRUCIAL TOOLS TO ADVANCE INDIVIDUAL WELL-BEING AND CONNECT PEOPLE ACROSS CULTURES.

THEY ALLOW US TO EXPRESS OURSELVES AND OUR VALUES WHILE CONTRIBUTING TO A HEALTHIER AND STRONGER COMMUNITY.

THE ARTS ARE AN ASSET THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO EVERYWHERE, TO EVERYONE.

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HISTORY, LITERATURE AND THE ARTS ARE CORE ELEMENTS OF OUR DAILY SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

ESSENTIALLY, OCTOBER IS BEST SUMMARIZED BY SHARING STORIES, STORIES TOLD IN A VARIETY OF WAYS, INCLUDING MUSIC, THEATER, DANCE, VISUAL ARTS, AS WELL AS LITERATURE.

EACH IN THEIR OWN WAY, THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES CONVEY THE DIVERSE ARRAY OF HUMAN EXPERIENCE TO FOSTER AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PAST AND PRESENT, TO CREATE A BETTER FUTURE.

THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT HAS LAUNCHED AN ARRAY OF OFFERINGS FOR OCTOBER AMAZING PROGRAMING THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTING THE VISUAL AND PERFORMING ARTS AND EMBODYING THE DIVERSITY FOUND IN OUR REGION.

THIS GREAT PROGRAMING IS MADE POSSIBLE ALSO WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CARLSBAD LIBRARY AND ARTS FOUNDATION AND THE CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS, WHOSE SUPPORT HELPS US TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY WITH UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATION, ENLIGHTENMENT AND ENTERTAINMENT.

ABOVE ALL, ON BEHALF OF THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING INTEREST AND SUPPORT OF THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES.

THEY TRULY MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITHIN ALL OUR LIVES AND SYMBOLIZE CARLSBAD'S SUPPORT OF ARTISTIC EXPERIENCES THAT DEFINE OUR COMMUNITY AS UNIQUE AND TRULY UNFORGETTABLE. THANK YOU.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT SUPPOSED TO READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE WE START PUBLIC COMMENT? IT SAYS THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED COMMENTS AS REQUESTED, UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL OTHER NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AS WE JUST DID.

BUT HOWEVER WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING ANY OF THE REST OF THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THIS MEETING, INCLUDING THE UPCOMING NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND IN THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.

CLERK PLEASE CALL THE FIRST PUBLIC SPEAKER MARY LUCID, FOLLOWED BY LINDA DANIELS.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MARY LUCID.

I'M FROM OCEANSIDE AND I WANT TO THANK THE 400 PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY ON AGE FRIENDLY AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE SENIOR CENTER BECAUSE WE NEED PROFESSIONAL, FULL TIME SENIOR CENTER MANAGEMENT THAT ISN'T UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MAKING MONEY. SO, SCOTT, IF YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TELL KYLE LANCASTER HE CAN SPEND SOME OF THE MONEY ON SENIORS AND MAYBE HIRE A SENIOR CENTER FULL TIME MANAGER SO THAT SENIORS WILL BE ALLOWED TO USE THE FACILITIES AND HAVE THE WELCOME MAT OUT.

AND THEY WILL RESPOND IN A TIMELY MANNER TO SENIORS REQUESTS.

IN ASSISTED LIVING PLACES YOU HAVE TO HAVE STATE LICENSES TO WORK IN RECREATION.

HERE YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW SOMEBODY AND HAVE A PLEASANT SMILE AND GET ALONG WITH PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO GET ALONG WITH.

OUR SENIOR CENTER IS OPERATING AT HALF CAPACITY AND IS DISCOURAGING PEOPLE FROM COMING THERE AND THEY DON'T RESPOND TO REQUESTS BY SENIORS FOR KARAOKE, FOR USING THE CAFETERIA TO PLAY GAMES AND CONVERSE, WHICH IS CLOSE TO THE BATHROOMS, WHICH IS ALWAYS AN IMPORTANT PART FOR SENIORS. AND IT'S PLEASANT.

THEY'D RATHER THROW OUT THE COFFEE OR THE WATER, THEN ALLOW SENIORS TO USE IT.

EVEN IF WE BRING OUR OWN CUPS.

I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MANY IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO, BUT THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN SERVING 20% OF THE SENIORS AND PROVIDING A PLACE FOR THEM TO SOCIALIZE, GET UP IN THE MORNING AND GO AND CONTRIBUTE.

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STAFF HIDES IN THEIR OFFICE, THEY BADMOUTH PEOPLE.

I DON'T, GOD KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE MONEY, BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY ARE NOT ALLOWING SENIORS TO USE THE ART ROOMS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S DIRECTLY ON KYLE LANCASTER.

SO, SCOTT CHADWICK, CITY MANAGER.

IF YOU'VE SCARED, KYLE, WILL YOU PLEASE MAKE UP WITH HIM AND SAY, LOOK, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON SENIORS.

AND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD A BOCCE COURT.

I'D APPRECIATE A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

I KNOW THAT'S MONEY, BUT THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LINDA DANIELS, FOLLOWED BY LAURIE ROBIN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN UP HERE A LOT OF TIMES TALKING FOR THE SIERRA CLUB AND FOR BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION COALITION.

I'M A TEN YEAR RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD, AND IN PREVIOUS COMMENTS, I'VE TALKED TO YOU AND TOLD YOU I WALK THE TALK.

I HAVE FULLY ELECTRIFIED MY HOME.

I HAVE NO MORE GAS, INDUCTION OVEN, WATER PUMP, WATER HEATER, AN ELECTRIC AIR SOURCE, HEAT PUMP FOR HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING.

MY ELECTRIC CAR HAS A LICENSE PLATE HOLDER THAT STATES SAVING THE PLANET ONE EV AT A TIME.

I'M VERY EXCITED TO TELL YOU THE PROGRESS WE ARE MAKING IN AMERICA.

IN ITHACA, NEW YORK, IS A LEADER IN ACHIEVING CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030, AND THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO THE ELECTRIFICATION AND DECARBONIZATION OF ALL OF ITS BUILDINGS.

THE FIRST CITY IN THE US TO DO SO.

THEY'RE DOING IT IN A VERY UNUSUAL WAY THAT I FOUND OUT ABOUT BECAUSE I GOT SOME THINGS I'M GOING TO LEAVE FOR YOU GUYS TO READ.

THESE ARE ARTICLES FROM MY FRIEND WHO LIVES IN ITHACA.

THEY SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY CALLED BLOC POWR, B L O C, P O W R.

A TECH COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN RETROFITTING PREEXISTING BUILDINGS WITH NEW, GREENER ENERGY TECHNOLOGY.

THIS WILL ELIMINATE ABOUT 40% OF ITHACA'S CARBON EMISSIONS.

THIS GREEN DEAL WILL ELECTRIFY 6,000 PUBLIC AND PRIVATELY OWNED BUILDINGS IN ITHACA.

WHEN THIS WAS SIGNED OFF ON, THERE WERE JUST 3092 DAYS LEFT UNTIL 2030.

SO THEY'RE WORKING PRETTY FAST.

NO MORE FOSSIL FUELS AND NO MORE METHANE GAS KNOWN TO MOST OF YOU AS NATURAL GAS.

BUT IT'S NOT NATURAL AND IT'S NOT CLEAN.

ITHACA IS STARTING A CCA COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATE, WHICH WE HAVE DONE ALREADY, AND THEY'RE BUILDING SOLAR FARMS BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP OFFSET THE REST OF THE ELECTRIC PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE HAVING.

THE MOST UNIQUE ASPECT OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT HOME AND BUILDING OWNERS DO NOT NEED TO PAY ANYTHING UP FRONT AND WITH NO INTEREST, LOANS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO MAY NEED THEM.

SILICON VALLEY, I GUESS YOU ALL KNOW THEIR CCE HAS BEEN DOING THAT FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

THEY'VE BEEN GIVING OUT THESE INTEREST FREE LOANS TO BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO ELECTRIFY.

THE GOAL IS TO BE SURE TO PROVIDE CLEAN ENERGY TO EVERYONE, EVEN THE UNDERPRIVILEGED, BECAUSE WE WORRY THE MOST ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY COULD NEVER AFFORD TO BUY AN INDUCTION STOVE OR SOMETHING.

RIGHT. AND NOW MENLO PARK, CALIFORNIA, HAS SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH BLOC POWR AND THEY'RE ELECTRIFYING THEIR CITY.

SO WE GO FROM ITHACA, ONE SIDE OF THE COUNTRY ALL THE WAY TO CALIFORNIA, AND BLOC POWR WILL TAKE CARE OF ANY CITY IN THE UNITED STATES.

CAN CARLSBAD BE NEXT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LAURIE ROBIN, FOLLOWED BY LISA MARIE.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

I'M A CARLSBAD RESIDENT AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU REGARDING AN ISSUE OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

I KNOW THE COUNCIL IS CONCERNED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE A RECENT BICYCLE EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED AND PROMPT ACTION WAS TAKEN.

THANK YOU. THE CARLSBAD POPULATION AND TOURISM HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY, AND WITH THIS GROWTH, THE DANGER HAS INCREASED AT THE PEDESTRIAN SURFACE RAILROAD TRACK CROSSINGS.

THERE ARE NO PEDESTRIAN WARNING GATES AT GRAND AVENUE, CARLSBAD VILLAGE BOULEVARD AND TAMARACK AVENUE.

ALSO, THESE SURFACE CROSSINGS DO NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PEOPLE WITH LIMITED MOBILITY, SIGHT OR HEARING.

I HAVE OFTEN SEEN PEDESTRIANS CROSSING THE TRACKS WHEN THE AUTOMOBILE GATES ARE DOWN, BUT THERE ARE NO

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BARRIERS ON THE SIDEWALKS.

OUR NEIGHBOR, OCEANSIDE, HAS INSTALLED SURFACE PEDESTRIAN GATES THAT WORK WELL AND SAVE LIVES.

LET'S GET THIS DONE BEFORE WE NEED TO DECLARE ANOTHER EMERGENCY.

THANK YOU. LISA MARIE, FOLLOWED BY FRANK MARTINEZ.

MY NAME IS LISA MARIE.

I'M FROM EAGLE, IDAHO.

NICE TO MEET YOU. AND I WANT TO JUST SAY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR SERVING.

MY REASON FOR BEING IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND I FEEL REALLY AT HOME AT CARLSBAD, BECAUSE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SAN DIEGO CHARGERS WITH A NUMBER OF YOUR NFL AND MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STILL HAVE TIES THERE.

AND A NUMBER OF MY FOOTBALL PLAYERS LIKED COMING HERE AND GOING TO THE BEACH AND EATING DINNER.

SO I WANT TO JUST SAY IT WAS IT FELT VERY HOMEY COMING TO CARLSBAD.

SO THE REASON WHY I'M SPEAKING IN FRONT OF YOU FOR 3 MINUTES AND I WOULD JUST AT LEAST LIKE TO INTRODUCE BRANDON.

IT'S KIND OF NERVOUSING FOR ANYONE TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL THE FIRST TIME.

SO BRANDON OPTED NOT TO SPEAK, SO HE'S HOLDING A BEAUTIFUL BASKET OF PRODUCTS THAT I INVENTED.

THESE ARE THE PRODUCTS THAT I ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE NFL AND MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL.

YOU'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

WHAT I WANT TO DO IS HAVE YOU REALLY KNOW IN YOUR HEART WHY I'M HERE.

SO THIS IS MY DAUGHTER CAMERON, AND I JUST HANDED YOU'LL HAVE ONE OF MY BUSINESS CARDS.

YOU DID END UP REACHING GETTING POSTERS PREVIOUSLY, AND I KIND OF LOOK FAMILIAR.

I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT HAIR COLOR, BUT MY HEART IS COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR YOUTH SURVIVE DRUG ADDICTIONS, MOLESTATION, HOMELESSNESS AND WHAT I'M SPENDING THE REST OF MY LIFE DOING RIGHT NOW IS THAT MY DAUGHTER CAMERON, WENT MISSING.

SHE WENT MISSING AT AGE 20 YEARS OLD.

IT BROUGHT ME INTO A WHOLE OTHER MINDSET BECAUSE ANY FEAR OF ANY PARENT TO HAVE YOUR DAUGHTER GO MISSING AND THEN TO BE TOLD THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE 48 HOURS TO ADDRESS ANYTHING OR EVEN 24 HOURS, I ABOUT WENT NUTS.

SO WHO YOU HAVE STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU IS A WOMAN WHOSE CHILD WENT MISSING.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE FEAR THERE.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT DRIVES JOHN WALSH.

AND WHAT DROVE JOHN WALSH? SO I AM COMMITTED THE REST OF MY LIFE.

A NUMBER OF THE PUBLIC CASES THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE UNITED STATES OF CHILDREN THAT ARE MISSING IS MY WORK.

YOU WILL SEE MY NAME THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.

WE HAVE CHOSEN THREE STATES TO LAUNCH MISSING CHILD INTELLIGENCE CENTERS.

BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, THESE TWO QUESTIONS THAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, I WILL GUARANTEE YOU THAT YOU CANNOT ANSWER THEM.

HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE MISSING IN THE UNITED STATES CURRENTLY? HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE MISSING IN CALIFORNIA CURRENTLY?HOW MANY ARE MISSING IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY CURRENTLY? THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU.

FRANK MARTINEZ.

HELLO. MY NAME IS FRANK MARTINEZ.

IT'S MY FIRST TIME EVER SPEAKING HERE AT CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

GLASSES. [LAUGHTER] I'VE COME HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT OUR MISSING CHILDREN.

WHAT ARE THE MOST COMMON REASONS CHILDREN GO MISSING? RUNAWAY. WHAT? AND WHO ARE THEY RUNNING FROM? KIDNAPING BOTH BY FAMILY AND STRANGERS.

SEXUAL EXPLOITATION, ORGAN HARVESTING, ADRENOCHROME.

RECENTLY, I WAS PRESENTED WITH INFORMATION THAT WAS SHOCKING AND ALARMING.

A DEAR FRIEND ASKED ME, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOUR CHILD WAS MISSING? MY RESPONSE WAS I WOULD CALL THE POLICE, SHE REPLIED.

THEN WHAT? I WOULD FILE A MISSING PERSONS REPORT.

THEN WHAT? I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE PROTOCOL WOULD LOOK LIKE ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT I'M THE ONLY ONE UNAWARE OF WHAT ACTIONS PARENTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD TAKE FROM THERE.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS ALLOCATED TO RUN AND PRINT MISSING CHILDREN POSTERS FOR OUR AGENCIES? THE ANSWER IS NONE.

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DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MISSING CHILDREN THERE ARE IN THE COUNTY OF CITY AND STATE? DO YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK AND IF IT'S RELIABLE? IN 2021, OVER 3,650 CHILDREN WERE MISSING IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND 60,346 STATEWIDE.

HOW MANY AMBER ALERTS WENT OUT AND DID YOU PERSONALLY RECEIVE THEM? HOW MANY MISSING CHILDREN'S POSTERS HAVE YOU SEEN? THAT NUMBER WAS STAGGERING AND SHOCKING.

I HAD RECEIVED THREE AMBER ALERTS THROUGHOUT THE TEXT NOTIFICATION THAT YEAR.

THERE ARE TECHNOLOGIES AND SYSTEMS IN PLACE BEING UNDERUTILIZED.

THE SOLID SYSTEM ALREADY EXISTS AND I'VE EXPERIENCED IT.

THE GOOGLE RING CAMERA IS A VALUABLE RESOURCE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FOOTAGE THAT HAS BEEN USED AS EVIDENCE.

MY QUESTION ISN'T WHY IT IS WHY NOT? LAW ENFORCEMENT IS GROSSLY UNDERFUNDED.

IT WILL TAKE US EACH INDIVIDUALLY TO TAKE OWNERSHIP, RESPONSIBILITY, ACTION AND COOPERATION TO UTILIZE WHAT ALREADY EXIST.

PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN.

I'M SURE WE CAN ALL AGREE, NO MATTER WHAT POLITICAL SPECTRUM WE ARE ON OR ANY OTHER DIVISION CONVERSATION, I'M CERTAIN CAN AGREE THAT PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND ENSURES A BRIGHT FUTURE.

NOW THAT WE KNOW THIS INFORMATION, MY QUESTION TO EACH OF YOU AND MYSELF IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MAY I BE ABLE TO GIVE THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO OVERSEE AND THEN.

PLEASE GIVE IT TO THE CLERK.

THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST 15 MINUTES OF SPEAKERS.

THE REST CAN BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL WILL YOU PLEASE MAKE A MOTION FOR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE, TWO AND THREE? YES, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE.

SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[4. COMPENSATION FOR THE CITY CLERK AND CITY TREASURER]

ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION.

CITY ATTORNEY. FOR THE RECORD, THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS ON CONSENT CALENDARS ITEM ONE THROUGH THREE.

I'M SORRY SAY THAT AGAIN? THERE'S NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS FOR CONSENT CALENDAR.

THANK YOU. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO REMIND ME TWO OR THREE MORE TIMES TONIGHT.

AND INITIATING OR MAKING THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS ON THE COMPENSATION FOR THE CITY CLERK AND CITY TREASURER.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO CITY ATTORNEY CINDIE MCMAHON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.

SO THIS ITEM IS AS YOU CAN SEE, THE STAFF IS PREPARED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON IT AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ALSO TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

WOULD YOU LIKE US TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PRESENTATION OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO GO STRAIGHT TO QUESTIONS? DOES ANYBODY WANT THE PRESENTATION OR DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION? PLEASE MAKE THE MOTION FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SURE. SO IF I COULD, PLEASE.

INTRODUCTION TO THE ORDINANCE. YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 2.04 SECTION 2.04020 COMPENSATION CITY CLERK AND CITY TREASURER.

MOVE INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE AS RECITED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

[5. ORDINANCE NO. CS-433 AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 1.14 – DISQUALIFICATION FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST]

WILL THAT BE CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 1.14 DISQUALIFICATION FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AS RECITED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[6. ORDINANCE NO. CS-434 AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 1.08 – PENALTIES AND CHAPTER 1.10 – ADMINISTRATIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT REMEDIES]

ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

ANY SPEAKERS? ITEM NUMBER SIX THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS. ITEM NUMBER SIX.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA.

AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE TITLE ONE, CHAPTER 1.08 PENALTIES AND CHAPTER 1.110 ADMINISTRATIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT REMEDIES.

MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AS RECITED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.

[7. TAX AND EQUITY FISCAL RESPONSIBITY ACT PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF TAX-EXEMPT BONDS BY THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF USA PROPERTIES FUND, INC. AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE MARJA ACRES SENIOR APARTMENTS]

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CITY MANAGER, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS? YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE TAX AND EQUITY FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT..

PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF TAX EXEMPT BONDS BY THE STATE, BY THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF USA PROPERTIES FUND INC AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE MARJA ACRES SENIOR APARTMENTS.

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES DIRECTOR MANDY MILLS.

MANDY GOOD EVENING.

I'M MANDY MILLS, THE DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES.

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AND TODAY'S ITEM CONDUCTS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF TAX EXEMPT BOND FINANCING AND A REQUEST FROM USA PROPERTIES FOR AN INCREASE OF $65,000 IN THE LOAN AMOUNT FROM THE CITY'S HOUSING TRUST FUND FOR THE MARJA ACRES AFFORDABLE APARTMENT PROJECT.

JUST FOR REFERENCE, THE MARJA ACRES PROJECT IS LOCATED SOUTH OF TAMARACK.

IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF EL CAMINO REAL AT KELLEY ROAD.

THE COMMUNITY WILL CONSIST OF 248 MARKET RATE TOWNHOMES, 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND A 47 UNIT AFFORDABLE SENIOR PROJECT. THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A PROJECT WITH THE DENSITY INCREASE AND MODIFICATIONS TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING MIXED USE, LIMITS, SETBACKS, WALL HEIGHT AND GRADING.

IN EXCHANGE, THE MASTER DEVELOPER AGREED TO SET ASIDE 15% OF THE PROJECT FOR BELOW MARKET RATE RENT ON THE PROPERTY AT LOW AND VERY LOW INCOME LEVELS. THE AFFORDABLE PROJECT IS A PORTION OF THE MARJA ACRES OVERALL PROJECT.

THE AFFORDABLE PIECE SATISFIES THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING AND THE DENSITY BONUS REQUIREMENT FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT.

THE MASTER DEVELOPER HAS SELECTED USA PROPERTIES AS THEIR PARTNER FOR THE AFFORDABLE COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT.

THE AFFORDABLE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON SITE, BUT THE MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE PROJECTS WILL BE SEPARATELY OWNED AND MANAGED.

THE AFFORDABLE PROJECT CONSISTS OF 46 UNITS PLUS A MANAGER'S UNIT, AND IT'S A THREE STORY PROJECT.

THE PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE UNIT MIX AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

SO IT'S 37 VERY LOW INCOME UNITS.

NINE LOW INCOME UNITS AND THEN A UNRESTRICTED MANAGER'S UNITS.

THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WILL ENABLE THE PROJECT TO EXCEED THE BASELINE INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW FOR DEEPER AFFORDABILITY OF FIVE OF THE UNITS TO EXTREMELY LOW INCOME LEVELS.

THE PROPOSED RENT LEVELS ARE SHOWN HERE, SO THEY WILL RANGE BETWEEN ABOUT $600 AND $1,300.

RENTS FOR THESE LOWER INCOME UNITS, AS SEEN ARE SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW MARKET RATE.

THE PROJECT WAS GRANTED AUTHORITY FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO ISSUE UP TO $15 MILLION DOLLARS OF TAX EXEMPT REVENUE BONDS TO FINANCE THE PROJECT.

THE DEVELOPER IS WORKING WITH THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE THE BONDS.

THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS REQUIRED UNDER THE FEDERAL TAX AND EQUITY FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING KNOWN AS A [INAUDIBLE] HEARING TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE OF TAX EXEMPT FINANCING FOR THE PROJECT.

IN ADDITION, THE FINANCING MUST ALSO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS IN OUR JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES.

THE DEBT ISSUED THAT IS FINANCED BY THE BONDS IS NOT THE DEBT OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IN ANY WAY.

THERE IS NO OBLIGATION OF ANY KIND ON PART OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD OR THE CITY COUNCIL TO REPAY THE DEBT ISSUED BY THE FINANCE AUTHORITY.

ALL REPAYMENT OF THE DEBT IS THE STRICT OBLIGATION OF THE BORROWER AND ALL MONITORING AND ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE OF THESE BONDS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CMFA AND THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE ISSUANCE OF THESE BONDS WILL NOT IMPACT THE CITY'S APPROPRIATION LIMITS OR CONSTITUTE ANY INDEBTEDNESS BY THE CITY IN ANY WAY.

THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO APPROVED A $650,000 LOAN FROM THE CITY'S HOUSING TRUST FUND JUST ABOUT A YEAR AGO TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

SINCE THEN, THE ORIGINAL FINANCING PACKAGE HAS SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED.

ECONOMIC CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.

AS YOU'VE SEEN IN THE NEWS, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THIS PROJECT.

THEY'RE ESTIMATED ABOUT A 20% INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, INTEREST RATES HAVE BEEN RISING DRAMATICALLY, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S LESS MONEY THAT THEY CAN BORROW BECAUSE OF INTEREST RATES.

SO THAT INCREASES THE FINANCING GAP.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME THEY'RE FINANCING GAP IS ESTIMATED AT AROUND 12 AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE FROM A YEAR AGO.

AND WITH THIS CONSIDERATION, CITY STAFF DID LOOK AT THAT AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING A 10% INCREASE IN THEIR LOAN FROM THE HOUSING TRUST FUND.

WE DID REVIEW THE REQUEST IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY 90, WHICH PROVIDES GUIDELINES FOR THE HOUSING TRUST FUND AND EVALUATION OF HOW THE FUNDING

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IS ALLOCATED.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THAT POLICY.

SO WE DID LOOK AT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR DEEPER AFFORDABILITY THAN IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS AN OBLIGATION THROUGH INCLUSIONARY AND DENSITY BONUS.

AND SO WE LOOKED AT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE INCREASING OR DEEPENING THE AFFORDABILITY.

THE PROJECT DOES PROVIDE HOUSING FOR VERY LOW AND EXTREMELY, LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, ACCESSIBLE TO SENIOR RESIDENTS IN A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA. AND THAT HELPS US ACHIEVE TWO IMPORTANT PROGRAMS IN OUR ADOPTED HOUSING ELEMENT.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE ISSUE OF RISK FOR THE CITY, AND THERE ARE A LOT SIGNIFICANT MITIGATING FACTORS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WORKING WITH AN EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER WITH A STRONG TRACK RECORD AND HAVING MULTIPLE FUNDING PARTNERS FOR LEVERAGING AND ALSO THE LOAN SECURED THE PROJECT CONTRIBUTION SECURED AS A LOAN.

IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS.

SO USA PROPERTIES IS ALREADY IN THE DOCUMENT PREPARATION PHASE SO THAT THEY CAN CLOSE ON ALL THEIR FINANCING AND HOPE TO BREAK GROUND IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS.

IF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE FUNDING INCREASE, STAFF WILL ROUTE DRAFT LOAN DOCUMENTS AND EXECUTE ALL APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTS TO PROVIDE THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. WE ANTICIPATE LOAN CLOSING AND CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY.

SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU IS TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE ISSUANCE OF $15 MILLION DOLLARS OF TAX EXEMPT BONDS FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE ALSO RECOMMEND AN INCREASE OF $65,000 IN THE LOAN AMOUNT FROM THE HOUSING TRUST FUND TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

THAT INCLUDES STAFF [INAUDIBLE].

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND I KNOW WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY AS WELL AS USA PROPERTIES.

IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

I'M SORRY. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

MR. NORBY. MS. ACOSTA. MS. BHAT-PATEL. OKAY, LET'S START WITH COMMENTS, MR. NORBY. OKAY.

MS. ACOSTA, JUST ONE COMMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED IN HELPING VET AND RESEARCH AND LOOK THROUGH THIS.

I THINK THAT THE OFFER OF EXTREMELY LOW, VERY LOW HOUSING IS SO IMPORTANT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND IT JUST IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BE DONE WITHOUT ASSISTANCE.

SO I CAN SEE THE NEED FOR THIS.

AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND I SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS? MS.? OK LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR THE ADOPTION OF BOTH RESOLUTIONS CONTAINED IN THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? YES. SO MOTION TO ADOPT BOTH RESOLUTIONS AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[8. UPDATE ON STATUS OF NEGOTIATIONS TO RELOCATE SAN DIEGO GAS & ELECTRIC’S NORTH COAST SERVICE CENTER]

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

YES. THANK YOU, SIR. AND THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS AND NEGOTIATIONS TO RELOCATE SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC'S NORTH COAST SERVICE CENTER.

AND KICKING OFF THE DISCUSSION WILL BE OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES, GARY BARBERIO.

EXCUSE ME, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF.

THIS ITEM I WAS LOOKING FOR A MOMENT TO JUMP IN, BUT IT WENT REALLY QUICK.

I HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT IF ONE OF THE SITES IS CHOSEN, SO I'LL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU IF YOU'LL WAIT IN WHAT WE CALL THE GREEN ROOM.

I'LL CALL YOU WHEN WE'RE FINISHED.

MAYOR PRO TEM, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

GARY BARBERIO, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

I'M ALSO JOINED HERE TONIGHT BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY, CINDIE MCMAHON.

TOGETHER WERE THE NEGOTIATING TEAM FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

TONIGHT, I'LL BE PROVIDING YOU AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS TO RELOCATE THE SDG&E SERVICE CENTER.

TO REMIND YOU, WE'RE WORKING WITH SDG&E AND NRG ON THESE NEGOTIATIONS.

JUST TO REMIND THE COUNCIL WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM ON THIS.

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BACK IN 2014, WE ENTERED INTO A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY NRG AND SDG&E, AND ONE OF THE PROVISIONS OF THAT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WAS THAT THE CITY AND SDG&E WERE TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A MUTUALLY ACCEPTABLE RELOCATION SITE FOR THE NORTH COAST SERVICE CENTER, AND THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC SPECIFICATIONS AND COST NEUTRALITY TO THE RATEPAYER.

AND IF WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THAT SITE, NRG WAS TO PUT UP 22 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD A NEW SERVICE CENTER.

AND IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN THOSE TWO POINTS, THE CITY WOULD TAKE OWNERSHIP TO CERTAIN SDG&E PARCELS AND THEN THE CITY AND NRG WOULD WORK ON A JOINT DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY BETWEEN A PIECE THAT THE CITY WOULD GET FROM SDG&E AND THE NRG POWER PLANT SITE.

AND IF WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL, NRG WOULD BE PAYING THE CITY $10 MILLION DOLLARS.

JUST TO REMIND THE COUNCIL OF WHAT THOSE SDG&E PARCELS WOULD BE.

THEY ARE OUTLINED ON THIS AERIAL IN RED.

NUMBER 6 IS THE SDG&E OPERATIONS CENTER ITSELF.

NUMBER SEVEN, AND THIS IS KIND OF IN THE LOWER CENTER OF THE GRAPHIC.

NUMBER 7 IS CANNON PARK.

AND THEN NUMBER ONE IS A PARCEL ON THE NORTH SHORE OF AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON.

SO IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN FINDING A SITE TO RELOCATE SDG&E, WE WOULD GET TITLE TO THESE PROPERTIES UNDER THE AGREEMENT.

SO WE LAST UPDATED YOU ON JULY 26 OF THIS YEAR.

AT THAT MEETING, SDG&E INFORMED THE COUNCIL THAT AN EFFORT WE WERE LOOKING AT TO RELOCATE THE CENTER TO THE SHOPS PARKING LOT WAS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR THEM.

SO AFTER MUCH DELIBERATION, THE COUNCIL INSTRUCTED STAFF TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE ON AN APPROPRIATE RELOCATION SITE WITH EMPHASIS ON LOT 11. AND YOU DIRECTED US TO RETURN THIS EVENING WITH A PROGRESS REPORT.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

SO WE HAVE MET OVER SIX, SEVEN TIMES AS A LARGE GROUP AND SEVERAL SMALL GROUP MEETINGS SINCE THAT JULY 26 DATE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME OUT OF THAT CONTINUED NEGOTIATION IS THAT THE LOT 11 SITE ISN'T GOING TO BE A FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE FOR RELOCATING THE SERVICE CENTER.

AND WHILE THAT'S BASED ON COST, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND THEN TIMING CONCERNS IN TERMS OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ENTITLE THAT PROPERTY IF IT WAS EVEN POSSIBLE.

THIS IS KIND OF A MUTUAL DECISION.

SDG&E OBVIOUSLY IS THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT ALSO YOUR CITY STAFF AND NRG CAME TO THIS SAME CONCLUSION.

JUST TO REMIND THE COUNCIL, YOU CAN SEE WHERE SDG&E SPOT 11 IS.

IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CANNON ROAD, EAST OF THE FREEWAY.

AND AGAIN, IT'S OWNED BY SDG&E.

HOWEVER, IT WILL NOT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE.

SO ONCE THAT DETERMINATION WAS MADE, OUR EFFORTS STARTED TO FOCUS ON TRYING TO RELOCATE SDG&E ON SITE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, THE PARCEL THEREON GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE COAST HIGHWAY.

THEY OCCUPY THE ENTIRE ACREAGE THERE.

THE IDEA WOULD BE TO KIND OF PUSH THEM BACK UP AGAINST THE RAILROAD TRACKS, MOVE THEM AWAY FROM THE COAST HIGHWAY, RECONFIGURE ON SITE.

THIS MAY ENTAIL THEIR PROPERTY PLUS A PORTION OF NRG'S PROPERTY.

BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD STILL BE A BETTER ALTERNATIVE THAN THE $10 MILLION DOLLAR KIND OF CONSOLATION PRIZE OF NO RELOCATION.

AND IT WOULD FREE UP A PORTION OF THE SDG&E PROPERTY THAT WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO TRANSFER TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

SO THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES.

THE RED OUTLINE IS THE SERVICE CENTER AND THE CANNON PARK PARCEL AND THE YELLOW AND THE BLUE DOTTED LINES KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF IF WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THEM BACK SLIGHTLY FROM COAST HIGHWAY, HOW MUCH LAND IT MIGHT FREE UP.

AND THEN IF WE WERE ABLE TO PUSH, PUSH IT BACK AND DESIGN IT IN A WAY THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVING MORE OF NRG'S PROPERTY CLOSER TO THE TRACKS, IT WOULD FREE UP MAYBE AS MUCH AS TEN ACRES OF THE SERVICE CENTER SITE TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

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SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ONE OF YOUR OPTIONS IS TO GIVE US DIRECTION TO JUST TERMINATE NEGOTIATIONS.

AND IF YOU DO THAT TONIGHT OR IN THE FUTURE, WE WOULDN'T TAKE TITLE TO ANY PROPERTIES, BUT WE WOULD STILL RECEIVE THE $10 MILLION DOLLARS FROM NRG.

AND THEN SDG&E OF COURSE, WOULD FOREGO THE 22 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT NRG WAS GOING TO PUT FORWARD TO THE NEW CENTER.

BUT OVER THE COURSE OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS, WE DO FEEL AS CITY STAFF THAT WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS, THAT THERE IS PROBABLY A BETTER THERE IS SOME RESOLUTION OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE $10 MILLION DOLLARS.

WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET THERE? WE THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THERE.

WE THINK IF WE HAD MORE TIME TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGING POINTS TO WORK THROUGH, JUST MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERSHIPS COSTS.

THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR SDG&E INVOLVING THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION, JUST A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS ON.

WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS AND WE ARE ASKING THE COUNCIL TONIGHT TO GIVE US MORE TIME.

WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT LIKE SIMILAR TO THE LAST TIME FRAME YOU GAVE US WAS ABOUT 10 TO 12 WEEKS.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU GIVE US DIRECTION TO CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSIONS AND COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL IN DECEMBER, DECEMBER 13TH, TO BE SPECIFIC WITH THE PROGRESS REPORT AND HOPEFULLY A TERM SHEET AND IDENTIFICATION OF A SUITABLE RELOCATION SITE.

AND THE SECOND PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION IS BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN ON LOT 11, THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT FEASIBLE, THAT IT ISN'T FEASIBLE. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PROVIDE US DIRECTION TO DISCONTINUE OUR EFFORTS ON LOT 11 THAT WOULD ALLOW COUNCILMEMBER NORBY TO COME BACK IN TO TO THE DISCUSSIONS.

IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL END MY PRESENTATION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

BOTH SDG&E AND NRG ARE HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTED.

THANK YOU. SPEAKERS.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

QUESTIONS. MS. ACOSTA.

YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS COME BEFORE COUNCIL SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE, SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION THAT YOU'VE ANSWERED IN OTHER PRESENTATIONS BEFORE, BUT I DON'T NEED THE WHOLE BIG ANSWER, JUST A SHORTER ANSWER, WHICH IS HOW MANY SITES HAVE WE LOOKED AT AS A POTENTIAL RELOCATION SITE AND STRUCK DOWN AS NOT FEASIBLE? OVER A DOZEN. I KNOW WE'VE SEEN THE MAP AND WE'VE LOOKED ALL OVER AND THERE WERE SOME RESTRICTIONS, SOME PARAMETERS THAT SDG&E ASKED FOR WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THOSE SITES.

AND DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THOSE ARE? YES. GENERALLY SPEAKING, CITY LIMIT TO CITY LIMIT NORTH AND SOUTH WITH THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF EL CAMINO REAL.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS TO ENSURE THAT THEY MAINTAIN THEIR RESPONSE TIMES FOR THE SERVICE AREA THIS CENTER COVERS.

SO WE'VE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF SITES ALL OVER THE CITY WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS, GEOGRAPHIC PARAMETERS, THE SDG&E HAS REQUIRED AND BACK WHEN WE DID THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ALL THOSE YEARS AGO, AS YOU SHOWED IN YOUR VERY FIRST SLIDE, THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE WERE LOOKING AT HAVING THIS THIS DEAL WHERE NRG WOULD GIVE SOME MONEY FOR THE RELOCATION.

AND THE CITY WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR COMMUNITY BENEFIT.

WE WERE LOOKING FOR THE PUBLIC TO BENEFIT FROM A PIECE OF THIS LAND KIND OF IN GENERAL.

CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THAT COULD BE THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT OF HAVING THIS LAND AVAILABLE TO US? YES. SO WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE 2014 TIME FRAME, YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION WAS, YOU KNOW, NRG AND SDG&E ARE ASKING THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO SUPPORT A REVISED CALIFORNIA ENERGY CENTER APPLICATION FOR THE AT THE TIME WAS A COMBINED CYCLE PLANT THAT WAS APPROVED TO CHANGE THAT TO A PEAKER PLANT.

AND AS AS COUNCIL'S AWARE, THE CITY HAD BEEN IN OPPOSITION TO THAT APPLICATION.

AND SO IN THAT NEGOTIATIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR THE CITY TO SUPPORT THE APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE APPROVAL TO A PEAKER PLANT? THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT.

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THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE WAS THAT THE ENCINA POWER STATION ENCINA POWER PLANT THAT'S NOW DEMOLISHED WOULD CLOSE AND WOULD BE DEMOLISHED.

THAT WAS NOT A GUARANTEE.

THAT WAS NOT EVEN ANYTHING WE COULD IMPOSE ON THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL.

SO THAT WAS A MAJOR PIECE OF PUBLIC BENEFIT.

THE OTHER PIECES INVOLVED WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, WHICH IS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE DESIRE TO NOT ONLY ELIMINATE AND MOVE THE ENCINA POWER STATION OFF THE COAST, BUT ALSO TO RELOCATE THE OPERATIONS CENTER, SDG&E OPERATIONS CENTER OFF THE COAST.

AND SO THAT WAS PART OF THE AGREEMENT.

AND NRG PUT UP MONEY TO CONSTRUCT A NEW FACILITY BASED ON THE ESTIMATES AT THAT TIME IN 2014.

AND WE SET ABOUT TRYING TO FIND A SITE OFFSITE TO RELOCATE TO.

LOT 11 WAS SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS OWNED BY SDG&E AND OVER TIME MANY OF THE POTENTIAL SITES, 10 TO 15 ACRES OF LAND WE NEED AND RELATIVELY FLAT AND RELATIVELY RECTANGULAR GOT DEVELOPED IN THE AREA. AND SO WE NOW FIND OURSELVES HERE IN 2022 WITH VERY LIMITED OPTIONS.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL FOR DIRECTION IS TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE HOPEFULLY A BETTER DEAL THAN THE $10 MILLION DOLLAR CONSOLATION PRIZE, IF YOU WILL, WHERE WE WOULD JUST GET MONEY AND NO LAND SO THAT LAND WOULD BE COMING TO THE CITY.

IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT, THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT LAND.

ONE POSSIBILITY. CAN YOU PUT THE SLIDE BACK UP SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT LAND RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE OCEAN.

YES. THIS IS PROBABLY A BETTER ONE.

SO MAYBE GO BACK TO THAT ONE.

SO YEAH, THE SDG&E PIECES ARE IN RED THAT WE MIGHT RECEIVE IF WE'RE ABLE TO, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO ANYTHING AND THEY STAY IN PLACE, WE GET $10 MILLION DOLLARS, BUT WE DON'T DIMINISH THE FOOTPRINT OF THE OPERATIONS CENTER.

WE DON'T OR IT'S VISIBILITY TO COAST HIGHWAY AND WE DON'T GET ANY OF THE SITE COMING TO THE CITY AT ALL.

ONE OF THE POTENTIAL USES I'M SURE THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF IS A PERMANENT LOCATION FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN.

THAT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT LAND COULD BE USED FOR.

GREAT. THANK YOU. SO BEFORE TONIGHT, WE WERE LOOKING AT THOSE GETTING ACCESS TO THIS LAND TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S FIRE STATION, A NEW FIRE STATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

THAT'S WEST OF THE FIVE, MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE, MAYBE A COMMUNITY GATHERING SPOT, MAYBE SOMETHING REALLY SIGNATURE AND SPECIAL IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW TONIGHT, THAT'S ALL OUT THE WINDOW.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSAL NOW IS TO DO SOMETHING ON THE BACK OF THAT BOTTOM RED LARGE SQUARE.

IS THAT RIGHT? BUT IT'S RECTANGULAR AND OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT.

RIGHT. THAT YELLOW AREA IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE KIND OF FRONT THOSE VIEWS OF THE OCEAN FOR WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO THERE.

IF WE DID DO SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY GATHERING SPOT AND MAYBE ALSO WOULD BE ABLE TO FIT MORE THINGS, HOW MUCH LAND IS THAT IN FRONT OF THE YELLOW AREA THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO? ROUGHLY TEN ACRES.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND IF THAT CAME TO THE CITY, EVERYTHING WEST OF THE YELLOW DASH LINE, WE WOULD GET TITLE TO CANNON PARK.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LEASE ON THAT PROPERTY AND IT DOESN'T LAST FOREVER.

IT LASTS FOR A WHILE, STILL A GOOD WHILE STILL.

BUT WE MANAGE AND OPERATE THAT AS A PARK AND WE'D GET THE REMAINING AREA THAT'S KIND OF THE ASPHALT AREA.

SO ABOUT A TOTAL OF TEN ACRES.

SO TEN ACRES KIND OF OCEAN FACING VERSUS $10 MILLION DOLLARS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

YES. AND I WOULD ADD THE SECOND PART OF THAT WOULD BE DIMINISHING THE VISIBILITY AND KIND OF FOOTPRINT, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE COAST OF THE OPERATIONS CENTER ITSELF, KIND OF PUSHING THE MORE INDUSTRIAL USES, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN POSEIDON IN THE SWITCH AND THE OPERATIONS CENTER UP AGAINST THE TRACKS AND THE POWER PLANT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD.

THANK YOU. AND MY LAST QUESTION RELATES TO JUST WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NOW, WHICH IS ALL OF THOSE OTHER USES BEING KIND OF PUSHED BACK AND PUSHED AWAY BUT NOT

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GONE. SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO DEVELOP THE FRONT PART OF THAT PROPERTY IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICITY AND OTHER THINGS THAT MAY NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THAT AND PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC BEING ON THAT LAND.

SO THE LAND THE CITY WOULD GET WOULD BE MOST ADJACENT TO THE OPERATIONS CENTER FOR SDG&E.

THEIR OPERATIONS CENTER IS SIMILAR TO A PUBLIC WORKS CITY, PUBLIC WORKS YARD.

IT'S I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A PARK, BUT IT'S NOT A YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE DOES HAVE MACHINERY AND TRUCKS AND ODD HOURS.

BUT THEN AS YOU LOOK TO THE NORTH, THE SWITCH WOULD STILL REMAIN SDG&E SWITCH, AS WOULD THE POSEIDON DESALINATION PLANT.

SO THERE WOULD BE SOME INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES STILL THERE AND WE WOULD HAVE TO WHATEVER WE DID ON OUR IF WE GOT THE PROPERTY, WHATEVER WE PLANNED AND DID THERE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

MS. BHAT-PATEL. THANK YOU.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS JUST CLARIFYING THAT THE OPTION RIGHT NOW THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT IS JUST RELOCATING ON SITE.

IS THAT ACCURATE? I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, TO GIVE STAFF SOME MORE TIME ON NEGOTIATIONS AND THEN TO DIRECT US TO NO LONGER PURSUE LOT 11 AND YES, THE OPTIONS THAT WE KNOW OF TODAY THAT ARE REMAINING INVOLVE RELOCATING ON SITE ONLY.

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT ANOTHER SITE COULD APPEAR.

I'M NOT CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT ALL, BUT THAT'S STILL A POSSIBILITY.

OKAY. AND JUST TO UNDERSTAND.

WAS THERE EVER A TIMELINE WHEN WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING IF WE EVER HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT TO TERMINATE NEGOTIATIONS? THE 2014 AGREEMENT DOES NOT HAVE A TIMELINE FOR TERMINATION, BUT IT DOES GIVE THE CITY AND OR SDG&E THAT OPTION TO TERMINATE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TIMELINE THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR IS FOR THAT DECEMBER 13TH MEETING.

HOWEVER, THAT WILL LIKELY BE THE FIRST MEETING FOR AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IN TERMS OF EDUCATING FOLKS AND ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE FULLY EDUCATED ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER WE ARE AWARE OF THAT AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE DO WITH THE TIME THAT WE'VE GOT.

SURE. OK GREAT.

I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME FOR NOW.

THANK YOU. THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF RELOCATION WAS OFF OF THIS SITE COMPLETELY, SO THE CITY WOULD END UP HAVING USE OF ALL OF THAT THAT PROPERTY IF SDG&E JUST KIND OF RELOCATES FURTHER TO THE EAST.

I AGREE THAT'S BETTER THAN WHERE THEY ARE.

BUT IS THAT CONSIDERED A RELOCATION AS FAR AS THE 22 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO SDG&E GOES.

VERY GOOD QUESTION MAYOR PRO TEM.

AND I'LL LET CINDIE.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE TO SAY THAT THAT'S A DEBATABLE POINT.

YEAH, THAT'S A FOR SURE MAYBE, HUH? YEAH. AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT WHATEVER NEW AGREEMENT THAT COMES OUT OF THIS THAT WOULD COME TO THE COUNCIL. IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THE 2014 AGREEMENT.

SO ALL THREE PARTIES, AGAIN, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE TO ITS TERMS AND THEY WILL BE DIFFERENT.

OKAY. IS THE POSSIBILITY THERE THAT IF SDG&E MOVES TO RELOCATES TO THE EAST NRG ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THAT IS A RELOCATION AND PAYS THE THE 22 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS CONSIDERING SAYING, WELL, SINCE WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE HOPED TO GET IN THIS RELOCATION, POSSIBLY SDG&E SHARING THE 22 5 WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY, GETTING THE LEFTOVER PROPERTY.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED? NOT WITH ME, BUT JUST WITH YOU GUYS?

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LET ME REMIND THE COUNCIL WHAT THE 22 AND A HALF MILLION WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUNDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FACILITY, AND THAT WAS IN 2014 DOLLARS.

TODAY, IN 2022, RELOCATING SDG&E BACK AGAINST THE TRACKS AND REBUILDING THEIR FACILITY IS GOING TO COST MORE THAN 22 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS LIKELY.

AND SO AS PART OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS, HOW THAT'S PAID FOR.

THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE ISSUES ON THE TABLE.

OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MAYOR HALL.

I KNOW HE FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT IT SHOULD BE PARCEL 11, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING NOW BOTH SDG&E AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING AGAINST IT.

IT ISN'T JUST SDG&E.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO IS THAT CONSIDERED FLAT OUT AN IMPOSSIBILITY AT THIS POINT? IMPOSSIBLE. NO, BUT A VERY, VERY LONG PROBABILITY.

ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS ON THAT PROPERTY, SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND JUST THE AMOUNT OF ENTITLEMENT AND APPROVAL TIME IS SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER THAN RELOCATING ON SITE.

SO FOR THOSE REASONS, THE THREE PARTIES HAVE KIND OF COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THAT'S NOT A VIABLE SITE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON THAT TONIGHT.

IS THE MAIN MOTIVATION FOR ELIMINATING, PARCEL 11 SO COUNCILMEMBER NORBY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE FUTURE DISCUSSIONS? IS THAT THE MAIN REASON? WELL, THE LAST DIRECTION THE COUNCIL GAVE US WAS TO PURSUE RELOCATION ON LOT 11.

WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TELLING YOU THAT WE DON'T THINK THAT'S VIABLE, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR DIRECTION TO NOT PURSUE THAT ANYMORE.

AND AS A RESULT, IF YOU GO WITH THAT DIRECTION, THAT WOULD ALLOW COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY TO COME BACK IN.

BUT THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE MOTIVATION.

IS THERE ANY PROBLEM? I'M TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY 3/5 OF THE COUNCIL MAKING THIS DECISION.

MAYOR FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THIS, BUT HE COULDN'T BE AT TONIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING, NOT BY ANY CHOICE OF HIS OWN.

WOULD IT CREATE ANY BIG ISSUES IF WE PUT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE OFF UNTIL MAYOR HALL WAS HERE TO AT LEAST BE HEARD? WE DON'T NEED THAT DIRECTION TONIGHT.

YEAH, IT WOULDN'T IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.

WHAT IT WOULD IMPACT IS WHETHER WHEN AND IF COUNCIL MEMBER NORBY COULD CONTINUE TO COME BACK IN AND PARTICIPATE.

I JUST KNOW THAT NOW I'M SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL.

I JUST KNOW THAT MAYOR FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT AND I WOULD FEEL BAD MAKING THE DECISION WHEN HE'S NOT HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN HE'S ABSENT, NOT BY ANY CHOICE OF HIS OWN.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

I GUESS I'LL LOOK TO THE CITY MANAGER TO SEE IF THIS WERE TO COME BEFORE US.

I KNOW, OF COURSE, THE MAYOR IS RETIRING, SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF IT.

AND IF THIS COMES BACK ON THE 13TH, IT WOULD LIKELY BE THE NEW COUNCIL THAT WOULD BE DECIDING ON THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT'S ACCURATE.

ISN'T THAT GARY? YES.

AND IS THERE A FEASIBILITY FOR THIS TO COME BEFORE US PRIOR TO THEN? COUNCIL THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY, IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO HAVE THIS COMEBACK OR BE RECONSIDERED AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WE CAN CERTAINLY TABLE THIS ITEM NOW AND THEN RETURN WHEN WE HAVE A FULLER COUNCIL PRESENT.

SO I GUESS I'LL THROW IT BACK TO YOU NOW AFTER YOU'VE HEARD THAT.

WHAT IS YOUR INPUT? I KNOW THAT THE OTHER PARTIES ARE IN THE ROOM AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM, AND I THOUGHT THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HEAR A SHORT PRESENTATION FROM EACH OF THEM BEFORE WE CONTINUE AND MAKE A DECISION, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.

BUT I AM INTERESTED IN DELAYING THIS UNTIL WE HAVE MORE THAN THREE OF THE FIVE HERE.

SO BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PARTIES THAT ARE IN THE ROOM.

MR. BARBERIO, WILL YOU ORGANIZE THE SPEAKERS? YOU KNOW WHO'S HERE? I DON'T.

I THINK GOOD EVENING.

HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, JOE GABALDON, PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR SDG&E.

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AND I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.

I'M ALSO JOINED BY MEMBERS OF THE TEAM, BRITTANY SYZ, OUR DIRECTOR OF REGIONAL PUBLIC AFFAIRS.

ADRIANNA KRIPKE, OUR ASSISTANT GENERAL COUNSEL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND REAL ESTATE LAW.

WE ARE COMMITTED TO THIS PROCESS AND HAVE NO PROBLEM CONTINUING IT IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE.

WE ARE COMMITTED TO FINDING WAYS TO REACH A CONSENSUS AMONGST ALL THE PARTIES TO IMPLEMENT THE GOALS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. SO WE'D WELCOME THAT CONTINUANCE IF YOU WANT.

I JUST THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE A LONGER PRESENTATION.

I WAS READY FOR SLIDES OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? NO. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHAT GARY SAID AND CINDIE HAVE REALLY NOTED IS WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD WANT.

AND WE'RE HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE PLEASED AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

AND YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR THE MOVE TO THE BACK OF THE CURRENT SITE.

THAT'S WHERE THE GROUPS HAVE LANDED AT THIS POINT.

YES. BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO COME BACK AS WELL.

THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. OKAY.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON IT? NRG ALSO.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING.

I'M ERIC LEUZE, VICE PRESIDENT OF ASSET MANAGEMENT WITH NRG.

AND I'M JOINED BY JOHN SHALEMI, FORMER EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF NRG, AND HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE ORIGINAL NEGOTIATIONS, AS WELL AS MARK [INAUDIBLE], WHO RUNS OUR REAL ESTATE GROUP FOR THE COMPANY.

I WOULD JUST ECHO GARY AND JOE'S COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE HAD VERY CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS.

I BELIEVE THE PARTIES ARE FULLY ENGAGED AND COMMITTED TO FINDING A RESOLUTION.

WE DO HAVE SOME DIFFICULT ISSUES WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE TO ALLOW THE TEAM TO RETURN IN DECEMBER AND SEE IF WE CAN PRESENT A PROPOSAL FOR MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. THEN CONSISTENT WITH WHAT COUNCIL OR AT LEAST WHAT I HEARD.

IT SEEMS LIKE COUNCIL HAS TWO OPTIONS BEFORE YOU CAN EITHER POSTPONE AND RECONSIDER THIS ITEM AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO SEEK THAT DIRECTION OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU COULD DO IS PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF.

NOW HOLDING OFF ON MAKING A DECISION RELATED TO A LOT 11 AND ULTIMATELY COMING BACK AT THE MEETING ON THE 13TH. NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, COMING BACK WITH THE MEETING ON THE 13TH, WE WOULD HAVE A NEW COUNCIL AT THAT POINT AND COUNCIL, IF I MAY.

IN CASE THAT MATTERS FOR YOU ALL.

WE DO HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH SDG&E TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS LATER THIS WEEK.

YEAH. SO MAYBE A HYBRID WOULD BE TO GIVE US DIRECTION TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE BUT PUT OFF THE DECISION ON LOT 11 TO A DATE THAT THE MAYOR CAN BE AT THE COUNCIL.

SO YOU'RE SAYING WHEN THIS IS DUE TO COME BACK, WE'LL HAVE A COMPLETELY NEW COUNCIL BY THEN? WHAT I'M TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO IS THE MAYOR IS STILL THE MAYOR, EVEN TO THE LAST DAY THAT HE'S SEATED HERE.

AND I KNOW HE FELT VERY STRONGLY ON THIS.

I JUST WANT TO LET HIM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD ON IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY.

MY INSTRUCTION WOULD BE THE CITY CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE.

BUT IF WE CAN BRING BACK THE ITEM 11 QUESTION WHEN THE MAYOR IS HERE TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON IT, THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST.

BUT I'M LOOKING TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR OPINIONS.

THAT'S FINE. YEAH.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE WITH ME, TOO.

I DID HAVE SOME I DID HAVE SOME COMMENTS I WANTED TO SHARE.

IS THAT OKAY? DO YOUR COMMENTS AND THEN I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MR. BARBERIO. AND TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION MANY TIMES.

THIS IS OUR THIRD BIG CONVERSATION FROM THE DAIS RECENTLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO TO HELP RELOCATE THE SITE AND TO WORK UNDER THE TERMS OF THE ORIGINAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

IT SEEMS TO ME, FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD IN OUR PRESENTATIONS, THAT BACK WHEN THE ORIGINAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WAS NEGOTIATED AND AGREED TO,

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WE, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, GAVE SOME PERMISSIONS TO NRG AND SDG&E TO DO THEIR WORK ON THIS LAND.

AND IN THE END, LATER ON DOWN THE LINE, WE HOPED THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RELOCATE SDG&E TO HAVE THE BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY OF THIS PROPERTY.

IS THAT MORE OR LESS RIGHT? AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? I THINK YOU STATED THAT VERY WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MY CONCERN NOW IS THAT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS THE LOSER IN THIS DEAL.

SO MUCH TIME HAS GONE BY.

COST OF CONSTRUCTION, COST OF LAND HAS RISEN.

AVAILABILITY. THE PARCELS OF LAND AVAILABLE IN CARLSBAD ARE DIMINISHING RAPIDLY.

WE ALL KNOW THAT. WE ALL KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF OUR HOUSING CRISIS, TOO.

THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF LAND IN CARLSBAD.

IT'S A VERY DESIRABLE PLACE TO BE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE.

WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT FINDING AVAILABLE LAND TO RELOCATE SDG&E IS VERY HARD.

ON THE OTHER HAND, BEING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE OCEAN IN THIS VERY PRIME LOCATION IS NOT A GREAT USE OF LAND FOR WHAT SOUNDS TO ME TO BE A COMMERCIAL USES A TRUCK YARD. IT'S A TERRIBLE USE FOR THAT LAND FOR SDG&E'S FACILITIES.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT MOVED AND I THINK I'VE BEEN CLEAR IN OTHER MEETINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND I HAVE ASKED SDG&E FROM THE DAIS HERE.

WORK ON THAT, PLEASE COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE WHITTLED DOWN ALL OF OUR OPTIONS TO THAT SAME PARCEL OF LAND, BUT SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK SIDE OF IT, I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD DIMINISH OUR USES ON THAT LAND BECAUSE OF WHAT I MENTIONED DURING THE QUESTIONING TIME THAT I THINK THAT THERE MIGHT HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF BUFFER ZONE FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT PROPERTY FOR REGULAR USES.

I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE DIMINISHED IN OUR ABILITY TO USE THAT LAND FOR SOMETHING GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE PROCESS, BUT I'M RESIGNED TO GO FORTH WITH WHAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT.

SO I HAVE FAITH IN YOU, THE TEAM THAT'S NEGOTIATING FOR THE CITY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR NEXT FEEDBACK FROM THE MEETING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LATER THIS WEEK.

AND WHEN YOU COME BACK TO COUNCIL AGAIN.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE POTENTIAL OF THE USE OF THIS LAND IS SLIPPING AWAY.

IT'S DIMINISHING RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR EYES.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK TO THE OTHER PARTIES WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS TO PLEASE STEP UP ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL.

YES, THANK YOU. I'LL JUST ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS.

IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT THERE'S SOME PROGRESS BEING MADE.

OF COURSE, THIS WOULDN'T BE MY FIRST CHOICE EITHER IN TERMS OF WHERE WE DECIDE TO RELOCATE BECAUSE IT'S ON THE SAME SITE.

AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR ALMOST, WHAT, EIGHT YEARS? SO I THINK JUST OVERALL FOR THE COMMUNITY, DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS THAT THEY'RE WAITING AND WANTING TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE, WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON THAT SITE.

AND I THINK JUST BEING ABLE TO FIND AN END RESULT THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BENEFIT ALL OF US IS REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY THE PUBLIC.

SO I DO AGREE VERY WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN THAT PARTICULAR SENSE.

I DO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT OUR TEAM CAN COME UP WITH.

I DO WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO OUR TEAM.

OUR TEAM'S BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB OF JUST LIKE REALLY SHEPHERDING THIS THROUGH IN WHATEVER WAY POSSIBLE.

AND OF COURSE, TO OUR PARTNERS, PLEASE HELP US GET TO A RESOLUTION.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN MENTIONING THAT FOR THE LAST FEW TIMES, SO I'M HOPING THAT THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A RESOLUTION.

I KNOW WE MENTIONED THAT FOR TODAY, AND OBVIOUSLY CIRCUMSTANCES DON'T ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PARTICULAR DECISION.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT IN THE NEAR TERM.

SO I DO HOPE IN THE NEXT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING TO THE REST OF OUR COMMUNITY.

MY MOTION IS THAT WE AUTHORIZE CONTINUED NEGOTIATIONS, BUT WE PUT OFF PARCEL 11 QUESTION UNTIL MAYOR HALL IS PRESENT TO BE HEARD.

SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. DOES EVERYBODY VOTE?

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OK PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, NOTING MR. NORBY'S CONFLICT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR YOUR GUIDANCE.

AND COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS LEFT, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND PUT THIS ON FOR NOVEMBER 15TH.

[9. REPORT ON POSSIBLE PROGRAMS TO HELP ENTRY-LEVEL HOMEBUYERS PURCHASE A HOME IN CARLSBAD]

WELCOME BACK, MR. NORBY.

ITEM NUMBER 9, CITY MANAGER, WILL YOU PLEASE THANK YOU, SIR. NUMBER NINE IS A RESULT OF A MINUTE MOTION.

AND IT WAS A REPORT ON A POSSIBLE PROGRAMS TO HELP ENTRY LEVEL HOMEBUYERS PURCHASE A HOME IN CARLSBAD.

AND MAKING THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR JEFF MURPHY, ALONG WITH OUR HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES DIRECTOR MANDY MILLS.

THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, STAFF PRESENTED PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY HOUSING POLICY, AS WELL AS UPDATES TO THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY IN LIEU FEE PROGRAM.

DURING THE CONSIDERATION OF THAT ITEM, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE AFFORDABILITY OF HOMES IN CARLSBAD.

MEDIAN HOME PRICES SINCE THAT MEETING IN MARCH HAVE NOT IMPROVED MUCH.

ACCORDING TO ZILLOW.COM, A DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN CARLSBAD COSTS ROUGHLY $1.5 MILLION DOLLARS IN AUGUST.

YET MOST MIDDLE INCOME FAMILIES, THOSE OFTEN COMPRISED OF ENTRY LEVEL PROFESSIONALS SUCH AS YOUR SCHOOLTEACHERS, YOUR ACCOUNTANTS YOUR NURSES, DO NOT MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO COMFORTABLY AFFORD A MARKET RATE HOME IN THE CITY.

IN FACT, MORE THAN 70% OF SAN DIEGO [INAUDIBLE] CURRENTLY STRUGGLE TO PAY THE MORTGAGE OF A MEDIAN PRICED HOME IN TODAY'S HOUSING MARKET.

FOLLOWING ACTION ON THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY POLICY AND THE IN LIEU FEE UPDATE, CITY COUNCIL PASSED A MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO IDENTIFY POSSIBLE HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT COULD INCREASE FIRST TIME HOMEBUYER OPPORTUNITIES AND THEN RETURN TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO IN RESPONSE, STAFF PREPARED A WHITE PAPER, WHICH WE ENTITLED INCREASING ENTRY LEVEL HOUSING IN CARLSBAD.

THIS IS EXHIBIT ONE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

THERE ARE FOUR MAIN COMPONENTS TO THE DOCUMENT.

THE FIRST SECTION COVERS THE CURRENT CONSTRAINTS THAT CHALLENGE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, WHICH INCLUDES FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS, YOUR GOVERNMENTAL CONSTRAINTS, YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL, AS WELL AS ECONOMIC CONSTRAINTS.

SECTION TWO TALKS ABOUT OUR APPROACH OR STRATEGIES THAT WE USED IN DEVELOPING THE PROGRAM OPTIONS.

WE LOOKED AT THREE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO TRY TO EFFECTUATE THE COUNCIL DIRECTION CHANGE.

ONE IS ON AFFORDABILITY.

HOW DO WE REDUCE THE STICKER PRICE OF A HOME IN CARLSBAD? THE SECOND ONE FOCUSED ON DELIVERY.

HOW DO WE GET MORE PRODUCT ON THE MARKET FASTER? THIS IS YOUR MARKET RATE AFFORDABILITY, WHERE MORE SUPPLY WILL DRIVE DOWN HOUSING PRICE.

THE THIRD OPTION OR THE THIRD STRATEGY WAS AVAILABILITY.

HOW DO WE ENSURE AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE READILY AVAILABLE FOR FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS? THIS IS YOUR INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENTS WHERE NEW DEVELOPMENT SETS ASIDE A PERCENTAGE OF HOMES FOR LOWER INCOME FAMILIES.

FROM THAT, STAFF DEVELOPED 11 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT MEET ONE OR MORE OF THESE STRATEGIES.

THESE PROGRAMS ARE COVERED IN SECTION THREE OF THE REPORT.

NOW, FOR EACH PROGRAM, STAFF PROVIDES A SHORT DESCRIPTION COST SCHEDULE, AS WELL AS THE RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED TO COMPLETE.

SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL WISH TO PURSUE ANY SINGLE PROGRAM, STAFF WILL NEED TO EXPLORE ADDITIONAL DETAILS AND BRING A MORE FORMAL PROGRAM BACK FOR DISCUSSION.

THE FINAL SECTION PROVIDES STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

NOW, DUE TO CONSTRAINTS, WHICH I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A MINUTE.

WE ARE ONLY RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY PURSUE TWO OF THE OPTIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE REPORT.

SO WHILE VARIOUS PROGRAMS LISTED IN THE WHITE PAPER MAY PROVIDE SOME POSITIVE EFFECT ON THE AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING FOR MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES, THEY ARE NOT WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT LIMITATIONS AND RISKS, CAUSING MOST OF THEM TO BE INFEASIBLE TO IMPLEMENT AT THIS TIME.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE MOST EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS THAT HELP WITH HOME AFFORDABILITY INVOLVE SUBSIDIES TYPICALLY IN THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT FINANCING TO EITHER HELP BUY DOWN THE MORTGAGE AMOUNT OR ASSIST FAMILIES IN MONTHLY MORTGAGE PAYMENT SUPPORT.

NOW, GIVEN THE HIGH COST OF HOUSING, SUCH PROGRAMS RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT GOVERNMENT FINANCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITMENT, WHICH WILL LIKELY ONLY ASSIST A SMALL HANDFUL OF FAMILIES.

TO BUY DOWN A MORTGAGE STAFF ESTIMATES THE CITY WOULD NEED TO SUBSIDIZE ROUGHLY $300,000 FOR A MODERATE INCOME FAMILY OF FOUR TO AFFORD A FIRST TIME DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN CARLSBAD.

AN ESTIMATED $200,000 WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT FAMILY TO AFFORD A TOWNHOME IN THE CITY.

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NOW, I SHOULD PROBABLY MENTION HERE THAT THESE FIGURES WERE CALCULATED WHEN INTEREST RATES WERE 2% LOWER THAN THEY ARE TODAY, WHICH WILL LIKELY INCREASE THE NECESSARY SUBSIDY.

WHILE WE MAY BE EXPERIENCING A SLIGHT DECLINE IN MARKET PRICES, THEY ARE NOT COMING DOWN FAST ENOUGH IN CARLSBAD TO OFFSET THE RATE INCREASE.

ALSO, THERE ARE NO ASSURANCES OR GUARANTEES THAT THE PROGRAMS IN THE WHITE PAPER THAT ARE DESIGNED TO STREAMLINE PROJECT REVIEWS OR FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF MORE MARKET RATE HOUSING WILL ACTUALLY TRANSLATE INTO HOUSING THAT WILL BE AFFORDABLE TO FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS.

LASTLY, THE PROGRAMS LISTED IN THE WHITE PAPER THAT INCENTIVIZE OR MANDATE A PERCENTAGE OF MODERATE INCOME UNITS IN NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL LIKELY COMPETE WITH AND TAKE AWAY FROM THE CITY'S EXISTING INCLUSIONARY HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT HELP GENERATE HOUSING FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES.

AN AFFORDABILITY LEVEL THE CITY IS WOEFULLY SHORT.

FOR THE CURRENT HOUSING ELEMENT, THE CITY'S HOUSING ALLOCATION FOR MODERATE INCOME UNITS IS A LITTLE UNDER 750 OR 19% OF THE CITY'S TOTAL REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT RHNA.

CONVERSELY, FOR LOW AND VERY LOW INCOME UNITS, THE CITY'S HOUSING ALLOCATION IS OVER 2000 UNITS, OVER 50% OF OUR RHNA ALLOCATION.

SO CONSIDERING THESE CONSTRAINTS, STAFF RECOMMENDS TWO PROGRAMS BE CONSIDERED.

THE FIRST APPLIES TO HOUSING ELEMENT SITES AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE IN THE 2015 GENERAL PLAN.

PROPERTY OWNERS WHO RECEIVED A REZONE THAT INCREASED THEIR DENSITY WERE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH A HIGHER INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENT.

UNDER THE CITY'S CURRENT INCLUSIONARY ORDINANCE 15% OF UNITS MUST BE RESERVED FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES.

FOR SITES UPZONED AS PART OF THE 2015 UPDATE, PROPERTY OWNERS WERE GIVEN THREE OPTIONS TO SATISFY THEIR INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENTS.

THE FIRST WAS OPTION WAS TO REQUIRE 20% OF THE UNITS BE AFFORDABLE TO LOW INCOME.

THE SECOND ONE WAS TO DO SPLIT WITH 15% LOW INCOME AND AN ADDITIONAL 10% MODERATE.

AND THE THIRD OPTION WAS 15% VERY LOW INCOME.

NOW WHY MOST PROJECTS.

I'M SORRY. [INAUDIBLE] WHILE MOST PROJECTS OPT FOR THE FIRST OPTION, WHICH IS THE 20% LOW INCOME OPTION, THERE WAS ONE DEVELOPMENT SO SELECTED THE SECOND OPTION AND PROVIDED ALBEIT MODERATE INCOME RENTAL UNITS NOT FOR SALE OR UNITS, BUT THEY WERE FOR MODERATE INCOME.

AS PART OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE REZONING EFFORT WHICH STAFF IS TARGETING FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION NEXT YEAR, STAFF WILL BE RECOMMENDING A SIMILAR INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENT FOR UPZONED SITES.

THERE ARE AS FAR AS THE SECOND OPTION, WHICH IS PRIORITY TO CITY OWNED SITES.

THERE ARE PROPERTIES THE CITY OWNS THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN MAKING THESE SITES AVAILABLE FOR SALE OR LEASE, THE CITY COULD REQUIRE AFFORDABILITY LEVELS THAT WOULD LAST FOR A SPECIFIED TIME WITH RESALE RESTRICTION AS A CONDITION OF BUYING THE PROPERTY.

THE CITY STILL WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE APPROVAL FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ENSURING THAT THIS APPROACH IS ACCEPTABLE SINCE THE STATE SURPLUS LAND ACT REQUIRES THAT CITY OWNED LAND FIRST BE MADE AVAILABLE TO LOW INCOME HOUSING BEFORE IT CAN BE OFFERED TO MODERATE.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SPEAKERS. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, MR. NORBY. MS. ACOSTA. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

I NOTED THROUGHOUT THE REPORT, WHICH WAS AMAZING, BY THE WAY, THAT SOME COMMENTS WERE MADE WITH REGARD TO STATE HCD APPROVAL, AND I'M WONDERING IF HOW LIKELY IT IS THAT THIS ESPECIALLY LAST RECOMMENDATION IS FEASIBLE, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE STATE? IT'S A NEW CONCEPT, SO I CAN'T COMMENT AS TO THE SUCCESS FULNESS OF IT.

HOWEVER, IT IS ONE THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH THEM TO SEE IF IT IS AN OPTION.

THEN I HAVE A LITTLE ADD ON QUESTION TO THAT, AND IT'S ABOUT MONEY.

IS THERE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR INNOVATIVE HOUSING STRATEGIES FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES, STATE AND FEDERAL MONIES AVAILABLE TO US? I KNOW THERE IS FOR HOMELESSNESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HOUSING, RIGHT? THE MAJORITY OF FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GOING TO COME EITHER FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR FROM THE STATE GOVERNMENT, AND GENERALLY THOSE ARE GOING TO BE FOR LOW INCOME AND BELOW.

THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT HAVE A MODERATE INCOME REQUIREMENT ALLOWANCE, AND THAT WOULD BE IF IT WERE A COMPETITIVE PROGRAM, THEY'D BE LESS COMPETITIVE OR THEY MIGHT BE RENTAL AS OPPOSED TO FOR SALE PRODUCT, BUT I WOULD ADD THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT NOT ONLY THIS CITY IS GRAPPLING WITH, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A COUNTY WIDE AND ALSO STATEWIDE ISSUE.

SO I KNOW THIS TOPIC IS BECOMING MORE POPULAR.

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SO WE'LL KEEP TRACKING FUNDING SOURCES TO SEE IF THIS IS CHANGING.

GREAT. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, MS. BHAT-PATEL.

COMMENTS. MR. NORBY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR LOOKING INTO THIS.

THIS WAS MY MINUTE MOTION, AND I THINK IT COMES FROM A PLACE GROWING UP HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY WHERE WE HAD A VERY LARGE MIDDLE CLASS IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND BLUE COLLAR, WHITE COLLAR, AND I FIRST KIND OF BECAME AWARE OF THIS ISSUE MAYBE 15 YEARS AGO, COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, LOTS OF SANDAG REPORTS, AND THERE WAS A CLEAR CHANGE, AND THE CHANGE IS THAT KIND OF AFTER WORLD WAR TWO, WE WERE BUILDING 75% SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

ALL OWNER OCCUPIED, ABOUT 25% ATTACHED HOMES OF WHICH HALF WERE OWNER OCCUPIED, AND THEN THE REMAINING 12 AND ONE HALF PERCENT WERE RENTAL UNITS, AND THE SHIFT IS WE ARE AS A COUNTY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE ARE NO LONGER BUILDING THAT PRODUCT AND WE ARE NOW BUILDING ROUGHLY 80% ATTACHED HOMES, AND OF THE ATTACHED HOMES THAT WE BUILD, ROUGHLY 80% OF THOSE ARE RENTALS, 75 TO 80% OF THOSE.

SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITY, IN COASTAL CITIES, I GUESS MAYBE THE FIRST WAVE AND THEN IN THE COUNTY IN WHOLE IS THAT WE ARE LOSING A MIDDLE CLASS, AND IF YOU ARE FORTUNATE TO BE HERE AND HAVE ONE OF THOSE HOMES THAT ARE WORTH 1.5 MILLION OR ABOVE, YOU ARE A VERY WEALTHY INDIVIDUAL AND IF YOU ARE NOT FORTUNATE TO BE HERE DURING THAT TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO BE A RENTER AND YOU'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY BE IN A SUBSIDIZED UNIT, AND SO AS WE GROW THAT NUMBER, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A CARLSBAD OF HAVES AND HAVE NOTS, AND THE MIDDLE CLASS IS LITERALLY GOING TO GO AWAY COMPLETELY.

IT'S ALREADY GONE AWAY IN LARGE PART AND GOING AWAY COMPLETELY.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WILL HIT US HARD IN 20 OR 30 YEARS.

I THINK WE ARE A BETTER COMMUNITY IF WE CAN KEEP A STRONG MIDDLE CLASS AND KEEP THESE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.

I'LL JUST NOTE THAT OUR ON THE GROUND AT THE CITIES IS WHERE WE DEAL WITH ALL HOUSING ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S THOSE WHO ARE UNHOUSED, WHETHER IT'S SHELTER, WHETHER IT'S RENTALS, YOU KNOW, FOR PURCHASE, IT HITS US AND WE DEAL WITH IT, AND WE HAVE THE LEAST TO SAY ABOUT HOW THAT'S DONE. THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE THE MOST TO SAY AND THE CONSTRUCT OF WHAT THEY HAVE CREATED WITH DEVELOPERS TO TO DEVELOP RENTAL UNITS IS HUGE, AND SO WE'RE A DROP IN THE BUCKET OF WHAT WE CAN DO HERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS STATE LEGISLATION OUT THERE THAT'S DEALING WITH HOMEOWNERSHIP AND BUYING HOMES.

SO I THINK I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO ADD A THIRD, WHICH IS JUST TO HAVE OUR LEG' COMMITTEE REALLY, REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE HOUSING SITE IN TERMS OF THE STATE. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WAS YOU KNOW, MY EXPECTATIONS WAS ALONG THIS LINE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT WORK AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR FIRST TWO RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THIS IS A PROBLEM AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR OUR CITY 20 OR 30 YEARS OUT, AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT PERHAPS WE CAN DEAL WITH THIS EARLY OR AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE IT EARLY, AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF DOING THIS, IS THAT WE JUST KIND OF RAISE AWARENESS OF IT, EXCUSE ME, AND THEN IN YEARS TO FOLLOW, SEE IF WE CAN WORK WITH THE STATE OR SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT REALLY GETS TO PUT SOME TEETH INTO THIS, AND SO WE CAN KIND OF BRING BACK THAT MIDDLE CLASS, IT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.

MS. ACOSTA. GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

THIS WHITE PAPER IS REALLY WELL WRITTEN AND WELL RESEARCHED.

I AGREE VERY STRONGLY WITH MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, AND I'M THANKFUL TO HIM FOR BRINGING FORTH THE MOTION TO LOOK INTO SOME KIND OF MAYBE FIRST TIME HOMEBUYER PROGRAM.

I DID SEE IN HERE, AND I HEARD YOUR PRESENTATION THAT A PROGRAM THAT OFFERED JUST A FEW LOANS WOULD REALLY ONLY HELP JUST A FEW FAMILIES, AND IT WOULD ALMOST BE LIKE WINNING THE LOTTERY.

IT WOULDN'T HELP ENOUGH PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT WOULDN'T ADDRESS MORE OF THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, THAT THE BIGGER, MORE FOUNDATIONAL ISSUES, AND IT'S NOT JUST US, IT'S NOT JUST CARLSBAD, IT'S CITIES ALL OVER, ESPECIALLY CALIFORNIA.

IT'S SUCH A DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

SO I'M PERSONALLY VERY AWARE, AND AS A MOTHER OF A YOUNG ADULT WHO'S GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE AND HAS A GREAT JOB, SHE'S STRUGGLING TO PAY HER RENT.

IT'S 70% OF HER INCOME IS HER RENT.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO LIVE IN CALIFORNIA.

THERE'S JUST TOO MANY PEOPLE WANTING NOT ENOUGH HOUSING.

SO I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE EXPLORATION OF IDEAS, AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE LEANING ON STATE AND FEDERAL AND BROADER ENTITIES, MAYBE EVEN REGIONAL ENTITIES, AND SEEING WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW WE CAN CAPTURE SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT THEY'RE OFFERING OUT THERE, AND WHEN I ASK

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THE EARLIER QUESTION ABOUT STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING, I WAS I WAS THINKING OF WHEN THE STATE OFFERED THE HOMEKEY ROOMKEY MONEY, LIKE MONEY TO CONVERT A BUILDING LIKE A HOTEL OR MOTEL TYPE OF BUILDING INTO KIND OF SHELTER AND SERVICES AND TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT MONEY FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO CONVERT SOME KIND OF VACANT BUILDING, MAYBE, OR UNDERUTILIZED BUILDING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CAPTURE TO TURN INTO HOUSING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANYWAY, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ON IT.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT THIS GREAT DEPARTMENT NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TWO YEARS AGO THAT IS INVESTIGATING THESE THESE ISSUES ALL THE TIME, AND I AGREE ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS BEEN TRACKING THIS AND CAN DO MORE.

THANK YOU. MS. BHAT-PATEL.

SURE. THANK YOU, AND THANKS ALSO FOR LOOKING INTO THIS.

I THINK SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY I HEAR A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AMPLIFIED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING DEFINITELY IN 2018 WHEN I WAS FIRST GETTING ON BOARD. I HAD HEARD ABOUT FOLKS SAYING, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO MY KIDS WHO WANT TO COME BACK TO LIVE HERE OR MY GRANDKIDS OR JUST, YOU KNOW, A SENIOR THAT'S LOOKING TO DOWNSIZE AND JUST HAVING THAT ABILITY, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I CONTINUE TO HEAR THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, LIKE COUNCILMEMBER NORBY MENTIONED, A LOT OF THE HOUSE PRICES ARE REALLY, REALLY HIGH.

I THINK THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, THE MEDIAN WAS LIKE $1.2 MILLION FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, AND FOR MANY YOUNG PROFESSIONALS ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY HEAVY LIFT EVEN IF YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOU HAVE A DUAL INCOME HOUSEHOLD OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, AND SO I THINK WE WILL BENEFIT FROM HAVING SOMETHING.

I DO THINK I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER NORBY, THE COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE PROVIDED IN TERMS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT SITES AND THE PRIORITY TO CITY OWNED SITES, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE REFERENCING.

COUNCILMEMBER I DO AGREE WITH THOSE AS WELL.

I LOVED THAT WE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DIVERSIFYING THAT MIX FROM JUST A VERY LOW INCOME AND LOW INCOME TO ALSO INCORPORATING THAT MODERATE INCOME CATEGORY.

I THINK WE ALWAYS THAT BUZZWORD OF THE MISSING MIDDLE COMES UP SO MUCH, BUT THEN YOU DON'T HEAR CITIES ACTUALLY ADDRESSING IT, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE OF IT BECAUSE, YES, WE WILL SEE DEPARTURES OF THAT MISSING MIDDLE FROM OUR CITY.

I'M ALREADY HEARING IT FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES AND THEN OBVIOUSLY LIKE OUR SCHOOLS AS WELL.

SO AS SOMEBODY WHO IS THAT MILLENNIAL AND ALSO THAT PERSON THAT WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE A HOME HERE IN CARLSBAD THAT I CAN OWN, I CAN SAY I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT DEMOGRAPHIC, BECAUSE MANY OF MY FRIENDS ARE FOLKS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THIS.

SO AND PEOPLE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE MY FRIENDS, ARE NOT JUST PEOPLE I KNOW, AND I'VE COME ACROSS IN THE COMMUNITY OR TALK TO.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MULTIPLE GENERATIONS THAT THEY CAN HAVE WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THAT OPPORTUNITY SHOULD BE SOMEHOW GIVEN AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY FIGURE IT OUT TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU. I ECHO MOST OF WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID.

I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION RECENTLY WITH SOME OF OUR OWN CITY EMPLOYEES, AND THE DISCUSSION ACTUALLY LED TO WE'LL PROBABLY GET HOME OWNERSHIP WHEN OUR PARENTS DIE AND WE'LL GET THEIR HOUSE, AND THAT'S A SAD GOAL FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS TO WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT I AGREE THAT I FEEL BAD FOR FOR THE 20, 30, 40 YEAR OLDS WHO ARE TRYING TO CHASE HOMEOWNERSHIP AND WILL PROBABLY NEVER CATCH IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THIS.

THIS IS JUST A STAFF REPORT, IS THAT CORRECT? IF YEAH, IF COUNCIL WISH TO PURSUE ANY OF THE PROGRAMS IDENTIFIED, THEN CITY STAFF WOULD BRING BACK THE NECESSARY POLICY CHANGES OR FUNDING APPROPRIATIONS CONSISTENT FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.

SO. WHAT STAFF HEARD IS THAT THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF PROPOSED IS WHAT'S SUPPORTED BY COUNCIL, WITH A THIRD ONE BEING DIRECTION TO THE LEG' COMMITTEE TO PURSUE STATE REMEDIES FOR TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO ENCOURAGE THE LEGISLATION COMMITTEE TO? YES, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH WE'VE HEARD THIS, WE ALWAYS WORK BETTER WHEN WE END UP RECEIVING THAT ULTIMATE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT, I WOULD MOVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE ADDITION THAT WE BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE AND MONITOR HOUSING LEGISLATION.

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SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER TEN CITY MANAGER.

[10. CARLSBAD STRATEGIC PLAN 2023-2027]

YES. ITEM NUMBER TEN IS THE CARLSBAD'S STRATEGIC PLAN FOR 2023 THROUGH 2027.

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION IS OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR, JASON HABER.

I'M GOING TO KICK THIS OFF A LITTLE BIT AND JUST MENTION THAT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT'S BEEN BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR ACTUALLY, I CAN SAFELY SAY A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ORIGINALLY WE DID THE STICKER EXERCISE BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS MARCH OF 21, AND WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF ATTENTION. WE'VE ON THIS DOCUMENT, AND ULTIMATELY, YES, WE HAD TO DO A COUPLE OF PAUSES EVER SO BRIEFLY.

HOWEVER, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, AND WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO JASON TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. JASON. THANK YOU, MR. CHADWICK. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO TONIGHT, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CITY'S FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THE PLAN IS INTENDED TO ENSURE A CONSISTENT FOCUS ON COUNCIL'S PRIORITY GOALS AND ALLOW TIME TO BUILD MOMENTUM NEEDED TO ACHIEVE RESULTS AGAINST THOSE GOALS. THE DOCUMENT AIMS TO PROVIDE CLEAR POLICY DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF AND CREATE BETTER ALIGNMENT BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL'S POLICY DIRECTION AND THE DAY TO DAY FUNCTIONS OF CITY OPERATIONS.

THE PLAN INCLUDES AN ACCOUNTS FOR MECHANISMS TO CREATE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AROUND OUR EFFORTS TO FULFILL THE COMMUNITY'S VISION FOR THE FUTURE.

AND THAT INCLUDES DEVELOPING A MONITORING TOOL AND DIGITAL DASHBOARD TO TRACK AND DISPLAY PROGRESS ON THE PLAN'S GOALS AND KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.

THE PLAN ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT THE CITY OPERATES IN A DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT AND THAT NEEDS AND PRIORITIES CAN CHANGE QUICKLY.

THEREFORE, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DIRECT CITY STAFF TO UPDATE THE STRATEGIC PLAN AT ANY TIME, AND EACH YEAR THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THROUGH THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS THE PLAN'S PROGRESS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION ON ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT MAY BE DESIRED AT THAT TIME.

FURTHERMORE, IN APPROVING THE CITY'S WORK PLAN AND BUDGET FOR THAT YEAR, COUNCIL CAN FOCUS RESOURCES AND EFFORTS ON CITY COUNCIL'S HIGHEST PRIORITIES AT THAT TIME.

AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THIS HAS BEEN A PROCESS THAT COMPRISES SEVERAL WORKSHOPS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE KICKED OFF LAST DECEMBER WITH A WORKSHOP WHERE THE COUNCIL IDENTIFIED FIVE GOAL AREAS THAT YOU WANTED TO FOCUS ON FOR SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY VISION.

WE TOOK THAT INPUT AND WENT OUT WITH AN EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY INPUT PROCESS.

WE OFFERED A VARIETY OF MECHANISMS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT ON DEVELOPING THE PLAN.

WE BROUGHT BACK THE RESULTS OF THAT COMMUNITY INPUT EFFORT AT A SECOND COUNCIL WORKSHOP IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, AT WHICH TIME THE COUNCIL CONSIDERED THAT INPUT AND DEVELOPED AND IDENTIFIED SEVERAL STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES THAT YOU WANTED TO PURSUE AND FOCUS ON TO SUPPORT ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THOSE GOALS.

FOLLOWING THAT, WE DID ANOTHER WORKSHOP FOCUSED ON PRIORITIZING THE CITY'S CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THE COMING FIVE YEARS AND THEN ENGAGED CITY STAFF ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION TO TEST WITH INTER-DEPARTMENTAL TEAMS AND DIVISIONS ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION.

FIRST TO DEVELOP A ONE YEAR WORK PLAN, WHICH HAS BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE CURRENT YEAR'S ANNUAL BUDGET, AS WELL AS TEST THOSE OBJECTIVES FOR FEASIBILITY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. WE CONDUCTED A FOURTH WORKSHOP THAT WAS FOCUSED ON THE RESULTS OF A REVENUE STUDY AND OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR LONG TERM FISCAL AND REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS, AND SINCE THEN HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING THE PLAN, REFINING THE PLAN WITH CITY STAFF ACROSS THE BOARD, AND THIS IS REALLY THE FINAL STEP IN THAT PROCESS.

APPROVAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'LL JUST ACKNOWLEDGE ON THIS SLIDE EACH OF THE EMBLEMS HERE THAT INDICATE A PERSON STANDING AT A LECTERN.

THOSE WERE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC INPUT TO THE PLAN IN ADDITION TO THE EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY INPUT PROCESS.

SO THE FIVE GOAL THEMES THAT COUNCIL IDENTIFIED DURING THAT FIRST WORKSHOP INCLUDE COMMUNITY CHARACTER, QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFETY, SUSTAINABILITY IN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, ECONOMIC VITALITY AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND FISCAL HEALTH.

SO THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY VISION AND THE CORE VALUES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT SERVE AS AN UMBRELLA TO WHAT IS NOW THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THE STRATEGIC PLAN INCLUDES GOALS, OBJECTIVES, KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, MAJOR PROJECTS AND CORE SERVICES THAT SERVE IN SUPPORT OF ATTAINING THOSE

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GOALS JUST IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SOME DEFINITION AROUND THOSE GOALS ARE ASPIRATIONAL STATEMENTS THAT SUPPORT ONE OR MORE OF THE COMMUNITY VALUES IN THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY VISION. THE OBJECTIVES ARE MAJOR INITIATIVES OR AREAS OF FOCUS TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL.

KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS ARE INDICATORS OF SUCCESS, THINGS THAT CAN BE MEASURED TO SHOW PROGRESS AGAINST THOSE OBJECTIVES AND GOALS.

PRIORITY PROJECTS ARE PRIMARILY CAPITAL PROJECTS, BUT CAN BE MAJOR POLICY INITIATIVES AS WELL THAT SUPPORT THE GOALS, AND THEN CORE SERVICES REALLY SPEAK TO THE DAY TO DAY CITY SERVICES THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROVIDED TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL.

WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SEVERAL OF THE PROJECTS AND CORE SERVICES REALLY BRIDGE ONE OR MORE OF THE GOALS AND GOAL AREAS.

THEY COULD HAVE BEEN CATEGORIZED UNDER MORE THAN JUST ONE STAFF ATTEMPTED TO FIND AND INCLUDE THOSE WHERE THEY SEEM MOST CLOSELY ALIGNED.

SO STARTING WITH COMMUNITY CHARACTER.

I WON'T GO AND READ THE FULL LENGTH OF THE IN FIVE YEARS GOAL STATEMENT, BUT SIMPLY SAID THIS IS A GOAL TO MAINTAIN CARLSBAD'S UNIQUE COMMUNITY, CHARACTER AND CONNECTEDNESS AND SOME OF THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT WE'LL BE MONITORING AND REPORTING BACK ON INCLUDE RESIDENT RESPONSES TO SURVEY QUESTIONS RELATED TO COMMUNITY CHARACTER PARTICIPATION IN CIVIC ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, PARTICIPATION IN A VARIETY OF LIBRARY ARTS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS SPECIAL EVENTS ACROSS THE CITY.

ALL OF THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT, WHICH IS PROVIDED AS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE RESOLUTION.

STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES UNDER COMMUNITY CHARACTER INCLUDE DEVELOPING A NEW APPROACH TO GROWTH MANAGEMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW AND RESPONSIVE TO COMMUNITY PRIORITIES.

DEVELOPING OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.

CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY IMPLEMENTING POLICIES AND PROGRAMS OF THE CURRENT HOUSING ELEMENT, AND THEN FINALLY, WORKING WITH PARTNERS SANDAG AND NCTD TO SECURE FUNDS AND ADVANCE EFFORTS AROUND DESIGN AND TECHNICAL STUDIES FOR LOWERING THE RAILROAD TRACKS THROUGH THE VILLAGE.

WE'LL ALSO BE DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS THAT ENHANCE WELLNESS, SOCIALIZATION AND INCLUSION AND ACTIVE LIVING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THEN FINALLY, FOR EACH OF THE GOAL AREAS, WE LOOK AT CITY POLICIES AND PLANS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED AND ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED PLANS THAT ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE.

WE'LL BE PURSUING THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS IDENTIFIED IN THOSE PLANS, SUBJECT TO ANNUAL BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

SOME OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT SUPPORT THIS GOAL INCLUDE THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION AND REPLACEMENT PROJECT, SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD REALIGNMENT VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK PROJECT, AS WELL AS BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS AMONG MANY OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN. CORE SERVICES INCLUDE MAINTENANCE OF CITY PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, PROVIDING RECREATION, LIBRARY AND ARTS PROGRAMS, CLASSES AND EVENTS FOR ALL AGES. OPERATING AND MAINTAINING LIBRARIES, COMMUNITY CENTERS, SENIOR CENTERS AND AQUATIC CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

MANAGING OUR RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

CONDUCTING CODE ENFORCEMENT.

BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND PLAN CHECKS, AMONG MANY OTHERS.

MOVING ON TO QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFETY, WHICH FOCUSES ON PRIORITIZING THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE COMMUNITY.

KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS WILL AGAIN INCLUDE RESIDENT RESPONSES TO SURVEY QUESTIONS THAT SPECIFICALLY RELATE TO SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE AND CITY SERVICES AND AMENITIES. LOOKING AT CARLSBAD'S CRIME STATISTICS, EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES, AND CONDITION OF CITY ASSETS LIKE ROADS, PARKS AND BUILDINGS, AND FINALLY, INDICATORS THAT WILL BE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE PLAN.

THINGS THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR QUARTERLY REPORTS ON HOMELESSNESS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE THE NUMBER OF PERSONS PLACED IN TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT OR PERMANENT HOUSING, OR A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECEIVED SERVICES.

THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES UNDER THIS GOAL ARE TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYONE IN CARLSBAD BY ADOPTING AN UPDATED HOMELESS RESPONSE PLAN THAT REALLY FOCUSES ON PROVIDING SERVICES TO THOSE IN NEED OF HOMELESS SERVICES, AS WELL AS MANAGING AND REDUCING THE IMPACT OF HOMELESSNESS ON THE COMMUNITY.

WE'LL BE LOOKING TO FOSTER STRONG RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING THE FORMATION OF A COMMUNITY POLICE ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION.

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BRING OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT UP TO STANDARDS OF COVERAGE TO ENSURE THE CITY IS PREPARED TO MEET THE COMMUNITY'S CHANGING FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL NEEDS AND WILL MANAGE AND MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE THE CITY'S ROADWAY TO PROVIDE A SAFE, EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

AGAIN, THESE ARE EXISTING CITY PLANS AND POLICIES IN PLACE THAT FURTHER THE GOAL OF ENHANCING QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFETY.

PROJECTS TYPICAL OF AND SUPPORTIVE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE GOAL INCLUDE A VARIETY OF ROADWAY ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS BOTH FOR WALKING BICYCLES AND VEHICLE TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

INCREASING CAPACITY AT LA POSADA.

HOMELESS SHELTER.

COMPLETING FIRE STATION TWO AS WELL AS TEMPORARY FIRE STATION SEVEN AND SITING AND DESIGNING PERMANENT FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN. SOME OF THE CORE SERVICES GO TO INSURING SAFE BUILDINGS, PROVIDING, LET'S SEE, A BROAD ARRAY OF POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT FUNCTIONS, INCLUDING OUR 24/7 9-1-1 DISPATCH CENTER, INVESTIGATIONS FOR VIOLENT CRIMES, PROPERTY CRIMES AND A WIDE VARIETY OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY INFORMING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT CRIME PREVENTION, FIRE PREVENTION AND TRAFFIC SAFETY, INCLUDING E-BIKE SAFETY, PROVIDING HOMELESS RESPONSE SERVICES, INCLUDING SOCIAL WORKERS AND HOUSING PLACEMENT SERVICES, AS WELL AS ENCAMPMENT CLEANUPS.

MAINTAINING THE CITY OWNED FLEET STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND PROVIDING DRINKING WATER, RECYCLED WATER AND SEWAGE COLLECTION SERVICES, AND MAINTAINING THE VARIOUS PIPES, PUMPS AND EQUIPMENT THAT ARE NEEDED TO OPERATE THOSE SYSTEMS. MOVING ON TO SUSTAINABILITY AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, AIMING TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE CITY.

SOME OF THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS WILL BE MONITORING IN THIS AREA INCLUDE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, LAGOON AND OCEAN WATER QUALITY REDUCTION OF MATERIALS GOING TO THE LANDFILL. ACRES OF HABITAT MANAGED, RESTORED OR PRESERVED, AND PERCENTAGE OF THE FLEET CITY FLEET POWERED BY HYBRID OR ELECTRIC VEHICLE TECHNOLOGY, AS WELL AS THE PERCENTAGE OF ENERGY FOR CITY OPERATIONS THAT USE CLEAN SOURCES.

THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES IN THIS GOAL AREA INCLUDE RESEARCHING AND EVALUATING A CLIMATE ADAPTATION AND SUSTAINABILITY PLAN THAT WILL ADDRESS A BROAD ARRAY OF IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.

WE'LL LOOK TO TRANSFORM ROADWAYS AND IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE OPTIONS TO MOVE AROUND CARLSBAD, SUCH AS WALKING AND BIKING TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

WE'LL BE LOOKING TO TRANSITION THE CITY FLEET TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES WHERE POSSIBLE AND INCREASE CITYWIDE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SEEK GRANT FUNDING TO DEVELOP A SEA LEVEL RISE ADAPTATION PLAN.

FINALLY DEVELOPING PARTNERSHIPS WITH NONPROFIT, ACADEMIC AND NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS TO LEVERAGE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS AND PROGRAMS, AND AS WELL IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS IN A VARIETY OF EXISTING CITY PLANS SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROPRIATIONS.

SOME OF THE PROJECTS INDICATIVE OF SUPPORTING SUSTAINABILITY IN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDE MEETING OUR IMPLEMENTATION GOALS FOR THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, COMPLETING MERKEL RESERVOIR, SOLAR GENERATION PROJECT, IMPLEMENTING NEW WASTE REDUCTION AND WASTE DIVERSION PROGRAMS, AND COMPLETING PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND PERMITTING FOR THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD SEA LEVEL RISE ADAPTATION PILOT PROJECT.

OF COURSE, SERVICES THAT WILL BE PROVIDED IN SUPPORT OF THIS GOAL, OVERSEEING MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY'S PRESERVE SYSTEM, PROTECTING NATIVE SPECIES AND HABITATS, PROTECTING AND MAINTAINING OUR URBAN FORESTS AND UNDEVELOPED OPEN SPACE, PROTECTING CREEKS, LAGOONS AND OCEAN WATER BY IMPLEMENTING THE STORMWATER PERMIT AND PREVENTING SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS AND ENSURING THAT AREAS OF OPEN SPACE AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT SUPPORT SUSTAINABLE ACCESS TO RECREATION AND ACTIVE, HEALTHY LIFESTYLES.

THE GOAL AREA OF ECONOMIC VITALITY IS TO FOSTER A HEALTHY LOCAL ECONOMY.

WE'LL BE LOOKING AT RESPONSES AND RATINGS FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES RECEIVED THROUGH A SCIENTIFIC SURVEY CARLSBAD'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, OVERALL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, OUR SALES AND HOTEL TAX REVENUES, AS WELL AS INDICATORS TO BE IDENTIFIED IN A NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED.

THAT FIRST STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE IS TO DEVELOP THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, STRATEGIC PLAN, CREATE A STRATEGIC APPROACH FOR VIBRANT ECONOMY THAT INCLUDES TALENT AND WORKFORCE STRATEGIES, SMALL BUSINESS ASSISTANCE, INCLUSIVE GROWTH AND DIVERSE BUSINESS SUPPORT, KEY INDUSTRY CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT, AND FOSTERING AN ECOSYSTEM FOR STARTUPS AND

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ENTREPRENEURS TO THRIVE.

PROVIDING RESOURCES TO GROW AND SUPPORT KEY INDUSTRIES IN CARLSBAD, SUPPORTING THE LONG TERM VIABILITY OF SMALL BUSINESSES, STARTUPS AND ENTREPRENEURS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL AND REGIONAL COLLABORATORS, AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, IMPLEMENTING THE POLICIES OF OUR GENERAL PLAN AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT GO TO THIS GOAL AREA.

THIS GOAL AREA DOESN'T INCLUDE SPECIFIC MAJOR PROJECTS, BUT CORE SERVICES INCLUDE SUPPORTING BUSINESS EXPANSION, ATTRACTION AND RETENTION PROJECTS AND KEY INDUSTRIES. MANAGING THE CITY'S LAMPPOST BANNER PROGRAM THAT BEAUTIFIES SEVERAL RETAIL, COMMERCIAL AND COMMUNITY AREAS IN THE CITY, CONNECTING TALENT WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES THROUGH THE LIFE IN ACTION CAMPAIGN AND MAINTAINING OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL AND REGIONAL BUSINESS SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS.

MOVING ON TO ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND FISCAL HEALTH TO BE A MODEL FOR EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS SUCH AS OUR GENERAL FUND, BALANCE AND RESERVES, CITY CREDIT RATING, PENSION FUNDING, CUSTOMER SATISFACTION RECEIVED AGAIN THROUGH OUR RESIDENT SURVEY, AS WELL AS MONITORING OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INCIDENTS AND OUTAGES.

THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES IDENTIFIED FOR THIS GOAL AREA INCLUDE DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING PERFORMANCE TRACKING AND MANAGEMENT REPORTING PROGRAM FOR THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, FOSTERING A CULTURE OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT TO EQUIP THE ORGANIZATION TO DELIVER EXCELLENT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

MAINTAINING THE CITY'S FISCAL HEALTH AND SUSTAINABILITY, MODELING TRUST, ETHICS AND CIVILITY.

ATTRACTING AND RETAINING A TALENTED, DIVERSE AND ENGAGED WORKFORCE.

WE ALSO AIM TO ACHIEVE CALPERS FUNDED STATUS OF 80% OR GREATER CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL POLICY IN EACH OF THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND WE'LL BE IMPLEMENTING POLICIES AND PROGRAMS IN THESE EXISTING CITY PLANS.

PROJECTS THAT SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND FISCAL HEALTH INCLUDE PLANNING FOR NEW CITY HALL AND CIVIC CENTER, COMPLETION OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ON A CENTRAL PUBLIC WORKS YARD KNOWN AS THE ORION CENTER.

COMPLETING THE POLICE AND FIRE HEADQUARTERS RENOVATION, INCLUDING THE EOC RECONFIGURATION AND EXPANSION OF THE CITY'S DIGITAL INFORMATION NETWORK.

SOME OF THE CORE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE IN SUPPORT OF THIS GOAL TO PREPARE A REALISTIC AND FISCALLY SOUND CITY BUDGET EACH YEAR, MONITOR THE CITY'S FISCAL HEALTH AND PROVIDE REGULAR REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN PUBLIC, RESPOND TO PUBLIC RECORDS, ACT REQUESTS, HANDLE SCHEDULING, NOTICING, AND OTHER SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS, AS WELL AS A VARIETY OF OTHER SERVICES RELATED TO CORE FUNCTIONS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

WITH THAT, I'LL JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE CORE PROJECT TEAM THAT INCLUDED MYSELF AND CHRISTINA RAY AND SHEILA COBIAN, AS WELL AS SUMMER CURLEY AND HER TEAM FROM THE CENTER FOR ORGANIZATION EFFECTIVENESS THAT PROVIDED FACILITATION SERVICES DURING THE EARLIER PART OF THIS PROCESS.

THIS PLAN REFLECTS THE WORK AND INPUT OF STAFF FROM EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE CITY WHO HAVE PROVIDED DIRECT INPUT TO ENSURE THAT THIS PLAN SERVES AS AN AMBITIOUS, YET REALISTIC TOOL FOR ADVANCING CITY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, AND AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CARLSBAD STRATEGIC PLAN 2023 TO 2027.

HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE STAFF FROM ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION.

SHOULD WE NEED ANY EXPERT INPUT? THANK YOU. SPEAKERS.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

QUESTIONS, MR. NORBY.

THANK YOU. MR. HABER AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE IN TERMS OF A COUNCIL GOAL THAT I PUT OUT THAT HAD A A DIRECTION TO PROCURE 100% EVS.

2022 AND 2023.

I THINK I MAY BE WRONG.

IT MAY HAVE BEEN 23 AND 24, AND FROM THAT POINT FORWARD ON OUR OUR PASSENGER FLEET, WHICH THEN WAS 43, NOW IS 46 TO DO THAT, AND SO THE GOAL IS I KNOW IT'S JUST ONE SENTENCE AND IT'S NOW WHERE POSSIBLE AND IT DOESN'T DIVIDE KIND OF PASSENGER LIGHT DUTY THE REST OF OUR VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT HAPPENED? HOW DID THAT I MEAN, WHAT YOU WHAT YOU SAID VERY IN THE BEGINNING WAS REALLY GREAT GOALS OR ASPIRATIONAL STATEMENTS, AND THEN WHEN WE GO DOWN AND WE GET INTO THE STRATEGIC AND WHERE POSSIBLE, IT'S JUST NOT AN ASPIRATIONAL STATEMENT TO ME.

SO I GUESS I'LL ASK WHAT WAS THE LOGIC OF JUST TURNING THAT GOAL INTO SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO PROCURE ELECTRIC VEHICLES WHERE

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POSSIBLE. IF I COULD, I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT STAFF UP TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT INTO THE PROCESS THAT HELPED DEVELOP THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HABER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

JOHN MAASHOFF, PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER, AND WITH ME THIS EVENING, BRADLEY NORTHUP, PUBLIC WORKS SUPERINTENDENT FOR FLEET SERVICES.

SO JUST STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT.

I GUESS THE IN 2019, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH THE FLEET COMMITTEE, DEVELOPED A FLEET TRANSITION PLAN TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CAP CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, MEASURE L SEVEN, WHICH STATES THAT THE CITY SHALL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED BY ZERO OR LOW EMISSION VEHICLES TO 25% OF THE TOTAL VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED BY 2035.

SO EACH YEAR THE CITY FLEET COMMITTEE, WHICH COMPRISED OF A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS, GETS TOGETHER, REVIEWS THE VEHICLES THAT ARE AT OR NEAR THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE AND MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL FOR REPLACEMENT OF THOSE VEHICLES.

SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND WE GO INTO IT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES AND INCORPORATE LOW OR ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE PASSENGER VEHICLES.

SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS OPERATIONALLY, WE'RE NOT SET UP IN EVERY DEPARTMENT TO RUN STRICTLY ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

IF WE COULD EXCLUDE PUBLIC SAFETY, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM A REQUIREMENT TO SOLELY PURCHASE ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR PASSENGERS.

I'M CONFIDENT WE COULD DO THAT, BUT OPERATIONALLY, WE'RE NOT SET UP ACROSS THE BOARD TO EXCLUSIVELY PURCHASE ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR PASSENGER REPLACEMENTS AT THIS TIME.

OKAY, SO WHAT I HEARD IS THAT WE COULD DO THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT SET UP FOR IT.

IS THAT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE VEHICLES THAT ARE USED IN PUBLIC SAFETY? I MEAN, IF IT'S JUST THE PASSENGER FLEET, IT'S 46 VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, GOING GOING FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.

YOU GUYS COULD DO THAT OR YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, YOU COULD DO IT OR DID I MISHEAR YOU.

I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD PURCHASE EXCLUSIVELY ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR PASSENGER VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, EXCLUDING SOME OF THE PASSENGER VEHICLES THAT ARE USED BY THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT. OKAY, GREAT.

YEAH, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO HAVE AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL THAT MEANS SOMETHING THAT REALLY PUTS A NUMBER OUT THERE, AND IF I COULD JUST EXPAND ON THIS A LITTLE BIT SO I KNOW.

REALLY, REALLY CLOSE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND PLUG INS.

I ALSO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MICRO-MOBILITY AND AUTONOMY, AND IT'S INTERESTING, MICRO-MOBILITY HAS REALLY COME UP AND REARED ITS HEAD THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN GOOD WAYS AND CHALLENGING WAYS FOR THIS CITY.

SO I WANTED TO KIND OF FIND OUT HOW WE'RE DOING IN CARLSBAD AND HOW DO WE KIND OF RATE AGAINST THE STATE, AND WHEN I SAY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA KNOW THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS A LOT LOWER THAN THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.

THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO IS A LEADER IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, BOTH IN TERMS OF SOLAR PV, AS WELL AS ELECTRIC VEHICLE ADOPTION WITH NORTH COUNTY AND EAST COUNTY BEING THE TWO PARTS OF OUR COUNTY THAT ARE REALLY PUSHING IT AND DOING WELL.

SO HOW ARE WE DOING? BECAUSE IF WE'RE DOING GREAT, THEN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, THEN WE'RE DOING GREAT.

LET'S JUST STICK WITH WHERE POSSIBLE GOAL, BUT IF WE'RE NOT DOING GREAT, THEN I WANT TO EXERT SOME LEADERSHIP FROM THE DAIS AS ELECTED AND APPOINTED LEADERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SAY IT'S TIME TO START DOING GREAT.

SO I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, AND I'M THANKFUL THAT THE CITY STAFF DID TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR OUR PASSENGER FLEET, WE'VE PURCHASED NO ELECTRIC VEHICLES, NO PLUG IN VEHICLES WHATSOEVER.

IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AT THE END OF 21, THE PROCUREMENT RATE WAS 12.41%.

OUR PROCUREMENT RATE OVERALL WAS 7.6%, AND REMEMBER, THAT'S THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, 12.41.

THE CITY OR COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO AND OUR REGION WAS DOING A LOT BETTER THAN 12.41, BUT OUR CITY WAS PROCURING AT 7.6.

SO THAT'S OUR HISTORY.

SO WE'RE KIND OF WAY BEHIND.

RIGHT, AND AS A CITIZEN, JUST LISTENING TO PRIOR COUNCILS AND ENVIRONMENTALISTS PROCLAIM THAT CARLSBAD WANTED TO BE A WORLD LEADER AND CARLSBAD WANTED TO BE WORLD CLASS AND A NATIONAL LEADER IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I SEE THAT AND WE'RE FAR FROM IT.

WE'RE NOT EVEN KIND OF WHERE THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS, AND THEN SECOND IS HOW MANY OF THESE VEHICLES TOTALLY ARE OUT THERE AND THE TOTAL VEHICLE FLEET. SO IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, IT'S AROUND TWO AND A HALF PERCENT AGAIN, AT THE END OF 2021.

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IN OUR CASE, IT'S 7 OR 8%, WHICH LOOKS A LOT BETTER, BUT UNDERSTAND, THAT'S EVERY REGISTERED VEHICLE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF 20 YEAR OLD VEHICLES OUT THERE, 15 YEAR OLD VEHICLES, TEN YEARS, AND OUR FLEET IS A LOT NEWER.

I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANY 20 YEAR VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET, MAYBE SOME TRUCKS OR SOME SPECIAL PURPOSE VEHICLES.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF AT THE STATISTICAL AVERAGE.

SO I WOULD JUST HOPE I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE TO MAKE AN ASPIRATIONAL STATEMENT TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROCURE 100% ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THE PASSENGER FLEET WHERE WE CAN AND THEN AND THEN JUST WATCH IT AND GO UP FROM THERE.

I ALSO JUST TO FINISH MY COMMENTS, ALSO WHEN I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, GAS WAS $3 A GALLON IN MARCH AND I MADE AN ECONOMIC ARGUMENT FOR IT AND IT PENCILED OUT IN MARCH THAT WAS REVIEWED BY STAFF AND STAFF PARTICIPATED AND PENCILED OUT BIG TIME .

GAS IS NOW $6 A GALLON, JUST ROUGHLY SPEAKING.

AND TWO WEEKS AGO AND I KNOW WHEN WE GET INTO THE PROCUREMENT OF THESE AUTOMOBILES, THERE IS A BUDGET ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, AND SO THESE KIND OF BUDGET CONSTRAINTS KIND OF JUMP UP AND GRAB US, BUT JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, FLEETS AND MAINTENANCE WERE BACK.

I THINK IT WAS 1.4 MILLION OR 1.1 MILLION BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE COSTS AND HIGHER PRICE OF GASOLINE.

SO, IT'S 50% OF OUR EMISSIONS IN THIS CITY.

WE CAN REALLY DO SOMETHING WITH IT, AND I HOPE THAT OUR MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT HAVING AN ASPIRATIONAL STATEMENT.

THANK YOU. MS. ACOSTA THANK YOU, AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT LAST ONE, ARE YOU SUGGESTING A SPECIFIC PHRASE LIKE WHERE TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE OR TECHNOLOGICALLY FEASIBLE? YEAH, SO OUR VEHICLE FLEET IS OVER 300 VEHICLES AND I'M TALKING ABOUT 46 VEHICLES IN THE PASSENGER FLEET, AND IT WOULD BE 100% PROCUREMENT FROM 2020 TO 2023 ONWARD, AND WE'VE HEARD THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW THAT ARE USED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

NOT THE LIGHT DUTY, NOT THE HEAVY DUTY, JUST THE PASSENGER PEOPLE MOVERS.

I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT.

I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE LANGUAGE.

SO BUT IF YOU WANT TO COME UP WITH A MOTION, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK ON THIS EXCELLENT PLAN, AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SO MANY ITERATIONS OF THIS DISCUSSION.

YOU CAN STAY THERE, ALTHOUGH I'M TALKING TO MR. HABER. THANK YOU, AND TO ALL THE STAFF THAT WORKED ON THE VARIOUS PARTS OF THIS.

I THINK THE ONE THING THAT REALLY IS STICKING OUT TO ME IS THE BRILLIANT AT THE BASICS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT WE ARE COMING UP WITH A WHOLE NEW PLAN.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN THE CITY? BUT NO, WE'RE CHUGGING ALONG, BEING BRILLIANT AT THE BASICS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT CREATING THESE PARAMETERS FOR OUR STRATEGY AS A CITY TO MAINTAIN OUR REALLY EXCELLENT COMMUNITY AT THIS AT THIS HIGH LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS.

JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE WANT TO GET DONE.

SO I THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK, AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE THING THAT I HAD RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THAT KIND OF STUCK WITH ME.

SO I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE VILLAGE H IN CALAVERA HILLS.

THIS IS ON PAGE 16 OF 49 IN HERE, AND I JUST WONDERED IF MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN ANSWER.

IS THAT'S STILL A CORRECT STATEMENT THAT WE WANT TO COMPLETE AN OFF LEASH DOG AREA AND TRAIL CONNECTION AT VILLAGE H SOUTH IN CALAVERA HILLS.

OR IF WE NEEDED TO REWORD THAT, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MR. LANCASTER OR SOMEBODY ELSE WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT THAT TOPIC, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE TERM IS COMPLETE DESIGN.

I THINK WE'RE STILL KIND OF LOOKING AT WHETHER WE NEEDED TO DO THAT.

MR. LANCASTER WILL TAKE IT FROM HERE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MANAGER, ATTORNEY AND CLERK.

KYLE LANCASTER, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

THE CURRENT DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL WAS TO PROCEED WITH COMPLETING THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND DESIGN OF THAT PARK.

WE ARE FULLY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT BY THE 2027 THRESHOLD THAT'S PRESENTED IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT, WE CAN, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

OKAY, GREAT. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS MORE OF A PRIORITY AND CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED AND THE COMMUNITY IS NO LONGER INTERESTED IN THESE BIG CHANGES.

SO I WASN'T SURE IF THIS WAS STILL SOMETHING THAT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH AS A PRIORITY.

YES, MA'AM. THERE'S BEEN NO CONTRARY DIRECTION BY THE COUNCIL.

WE CAN MAKE IT A LOWER PRIORITY IF YOU SO CHOOSE, BUT CURRENTLY WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN THAT MANNER.

OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWERS.

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OKAY, I'M GOING TO START WITH THE COMMENTS JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO PIGGYBACK WHILE IT'S STILL FRESH WITH WHAT MS. ACOSTA JUST TALKED ABOUT.

I'M JUST GOING TO PLUCK OUT VILLAGE H FROM THIS WHOLE THIS WHOLE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

I THINK STAFF HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OPENING IT UP TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S MEETING THE NEEDS.

I'VE BEEN ASKED TO GO OUT AND MAKE SURPRISE VISITS, TALK TO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, AND I HAVE DONE JUST THAT.

IT'S NOT A SCIENTIFIC SURVEY, BUT 100% OF THE PEOPLE I'VE CHATTED WITH SAID THEY LOVE IT THE WAY IT IS.

PLEASE DON'T MAKE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WITH NEW DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING AND BATHROOMS. I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW WITH A LOT OF PROJECTS ARE PARK STAFF IS A LITTLE BIT OVERBURDENED AND IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT HURT THEIR FEELINGS IF WE TOOK VILLAGE H AND MADE IT A LESS PRIORITY FOR NOW.

I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO POSTPONE IT UNTIL THE MORE PRIORITY PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED.

I'LL THROW OUT MONROE POOL, VETERANS PARK AND SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION WHEN IT'S TIME ON ITEM NUMBER TEN.

JUST TO ADD THAT WE DELAY VILLAGE H TO ALLOW STAFF TO CONCENTRATE ON ON MORE PRIORITY PROJECTS, AND I'LL WAIT UNTIL EVERYBODY ELSE HAS A CHANCE TO TO BE HEARD ON THEIR COMMENTS.

MR. NORBY. THANK YOU.

MY COMMENT WOULD BE JUST THANKS FOR STAFF, A GREAT PROCESS TO GO THROUGH FOR A WHOLE YEAR.

I KNOW IT'S THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT CAME IN.

GREAT COMMUNICATIONS OUTREACH TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WAS VERY INNOVATIVE AND REALLY GOT US A LOT OF COMMENTS COMING IN IS GREAT.

SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE PLAN AS IS.

IF IT INCLUDES THAT WE WE CHANGE I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT MY TWO COLLEAGUES MENTIONED AS WELL AS IN TERMS OF THE DOG OR THE PARK ISSUE, BUT I'D LIKE THE SENTENCE UNDER ELECTRIC VEHICLES TO REMAIN THE SAME.

EXCEPT I'D LIKE TO ADD THE PASSENGER FLEET WILL BE 100% ELECTRIC BY 2023.

THE 46 VEHICLE PASSENGER FLEET, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THEN THE REMAINDER CAN BE WHERE POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN NORBY. TO CLARIFY THAT, ARE YOU INDICATING NEW PURCHASES, ONLY NEW PROCUREMENT BEGINNING IN 2020.

SO IF THE VEHICLES LAST FOR SEVEN YEARS, WE'LL HAVE TEN YEARS.

WE'LL HAVE ICE VEHICLES IN OUR INVENTORY FOR THE NEXT SEVEN OR TEN YEARS, AND SO JUST TO SAY, AGE OUT AND CHANGE OUT WILL BEGIN NEW PROCUREMENT 2022, 2023.

100% ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

THANK YOU, AND SO I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION IF IT INCLUDES THAT, AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT IF IT DOESN'T.

MS. ACOSTA. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CLARITY ON THE LANGUAGE.

EVERYBODY GOT THAT DOWN BECAUSE I SEE PEOPLE HASTILY WRITING.

YEAH, OKAY, WELL, I IN CONCEPT, I'D LOVE TO HEAR THE LANGUAGE ONE MORE TIME ONCE STAFF GETS IT WRITTEN DOWN IN A WAY THAT IT COULD BE REPEATED BACK TO US, BUT I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT.

ABSOLUTELY, AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOWARDS 100% PROCUREMENT OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN OUR PASSENGER FLEET, AND I ALSO THINK WITH COMMUNITY INPUT BEING SO CLEAR THAT WE SHOULD NOT PRIORITIZE THE DESIGN OF AN OFF LEASH DOG AREA AND TRAIL CONNECTION AT VILLAGE H SOUTH IN CALAVERA HILLS, THAT SHOULD BE DEPRIORITIZED FROM THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL.

THANK YOU. MISS BHAT-PATEL.

SURE. THANK YOU.

FINE WITH THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

I'LL START OFF WITH THAT AND HAPPY TO SUPPORT THOSE, AND JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS.

APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THIS.

I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE OUR FIRST STRATEGIC PLAN AS A TEAM AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE ITERATIONS AFTER 2027 AND SEEING HOW WE CONTINUE TO REFINE IT AS WE MEET OUR GOALS.

I DO THINK THAT DASHBOARD OF ONCE WE IF WE DECIDE, OKAY, THE COUNCIL SAYS, HEY, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS, WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, THAT DASHBOARD OF JUST PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND JUST ALLOWING FOR THEM TO HAVE MORE ACCESSIBILITY AND TRANSPARENCY IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEING DONE IS AMAZING. I THINK WE GET ASKED THAT SO MANY TIMES, LIKE WHERE CAN I LOOK THIS UP AND HOW CAN I FIND THIS OUT?

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AND I THINK JUST HAVING THAT AT THEIR FINGERTIPS AND BEING ABLE TO LOOK IT UP AND AGAIN MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE IS IS GOING TO BE A GAME CHANGER.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THINKING ABOUT THAT, AND I KNOW FOLKS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND I'M JUST GLAD THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COMING TO THE FOREFRONT IN TERMS OF OF COURSE, LIKE THE MANY THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DURING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS, REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH PARAMETERS AROUND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.

I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA MENTIONED THIS EARLIER.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE BASICS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, BUT JUST AGAIN, SHOWING FOLKS LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S BEING DONE, BUT THEN ALSO WHAT WE'RE DOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN ORDER TO MEET OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, AND THEN ALSO JUST FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, BRINGING ALL OF IT IN AND JUST LETTING FOLKS KNOW, OKAY, WELL, WE WANT TO BE FORWARD THINKING, AND FOR INSTANCE, LIKE COUNCILMEMBER NORBY SAID IN SUSTAINABILITY OR WHATEVER ELSE THAT MIGHT BE, AND SO JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

I THINK OVERALL THERE WILL BE A LOT OF GOOD THAT WILL COME OUT FROM IT, AND I DO THINK OUR COMMUNITY WILL BENEFIT FROM BEING ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THIS IN A WORKING DOCUMENT AND SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, WE CAN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AND REFINE AS THE YEARS GO FORWARD.

SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE TWO AMENDMENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND I'LL LET THE MAYOR PRO TEM CLOSE IT OUT WITH HIS COMMENTS.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION CONTAINED IN AGENDA ITEM TEN WITH TWO ADDITIONS.

FIRST ONE IS DE-PRIORITIZING VILLAGE H UNTIL STAFF HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONCENTRATE MORE ON THE OTHER PRIORITY PROJECTS, AND NUMBER TWO, THAT ALL PASSENGER FLEET VEHICLE PURCHASES AFTER THE 22-23 BUDGET BE ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

IS THAT SATISFACTORY? IT ACTUALLY WILL BE 100% EV EXCEPT PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC SAFETY WILL BE WHERE FEASIBLE.

THANK YOU, AND THAT'S MY MOTION.

SECOND. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE 2 HOURS AND 15 MINUTES INTO THE MEETING, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

WE'LL RECONVENE AT 7:17.

ITEM NUMBER 11.

[11. UPDATE ON THE CITY OF ENCINITAS’ E-BIKE SHARE PROGRAM]

CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BRING UP OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND MOBILITY MANAGER, NATHAN SCHMIDT, WHO'S GOING TO DO AN UPDATE ON THE CITY OF ENCINITAS' E-BIKE SHARE PROGRAM.

HEY, TAKE IT AWAY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHADWICK.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M NATHAN SCHMIDT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND MOBILITY MANAGER, AND THIS ITEM IS IN REGARDS TO AN UPDATE ON THE CITY OF ENCINITAS' E-BIKE SHARE PROGRAM.

SO THE RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THIS ITEM IS TO RECEIVE AN INFORMATIONAL REPORT ON THE ENCINITAS E-BIKE SHARE PROGRAM.

SO FIRST OFF, JUST A BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM.

SO THIS ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED AND REVIEWED BY CITY COUNCIL ABOUT A YEAR AGO IN OCTOBER OF 2021.

DURING THAT MEETING, THAT MEETING WAS MORE INTENDED TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF MICRO-MOBILITY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, WHERE STAFF HAD OUTLINED A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THE MOTION WAS MADE FOR STAFF TO RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL WITHIN A YEAR, WITH AN UPDATE ON THE OPERATIONS AND PERFORMANCE OF THE CITY OF ENCINITAS E-BIKE SHARE PROGRAM, AND THEN JUST STEPPING BACK A BIT IN REGARDS TO SHARED MOBILITY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, THIS SLIDE PRESENTS A BRIEF OUTLINE OF HOW THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE CITY.

SO THIS ALL BEGAN IN MAY OF 2019, WHERE CITY COUNCIL FIRST ADOPTED THE SHARED MOBILITY DEVICES ORDINANCE.

THAT ORDINANCE PROHIBITED DEVICES FROM BEING RENTED WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THEN IN NOVEMBER OF 2021, COUNCIL THEN REVISED THAT ORDINANCE, UPDATED IT SLIGHTLY, WHERE WE ADDED A DEFINITION THAT ALLOWS E-BIKES TO BE RENTED FROM LOCATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AND IT ESTABLISHED AN AGREEMENT FOR THESE E-BIKE VENDORS TO OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY WHERE THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE LEVELS OF LIABILITY INSURANCE IN LINE WITH THE STATE GUIDELINES, AND ALSO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AS PART OF THAT MEETING, CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED AN ANNUAL STATUS UPDATE OF BIKE SHARE IN NORTH COUNTY.

SO IN REGARDS TO THE CITY OF ENCINITAS SYSTEM, IT IS CURRENTLY OPERATED BY B CYCLE.

IT WAS LAUNCHED IN JANUARY OF 2022.

THE SYSTEM AS IT FUNCTIONS NOW, IT INCLUDES 100 ELECTRIC PEDAL ASSIST BIKES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, 170 BIKE PARKING DOCKS AND

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21 STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT MAP ON THE RIGHT OF THE SLIDE HERE THAT SHOWS THE LOCATIONS OF ALL THE STATIONS WITHIN THE CITY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE LOCATED WEST OF I-5, PRIMARILY AT COASTAL DESTINATIONS, AT PARKS, RECREATIONAL USES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WITHIN DOWNTOWN ENCINITAS.

THE PROGRAM IS A PILOT PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY FOR ONE YEAR WITH THREE OPTIONAL ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT CONTRACT.

AS IT IS NOW, IT IS THE ONLY BIKE SHARE SYSTEM THAT OPERATES IN NORTH COUNTY.

SO JUST TO BRIEFLY GO OVER SOME OF THE PERFORMANCE METRICS, THERE'S DETAILED METRICS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET, BUT IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS, THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN UP AND OPERATIONAL. NOW WE HAVE DATA FROM THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF THIS YEAR, SO I'LL GO OVER THE SECOND QUARTER.

SO IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2022, THE SYSTEM EXPERIENCED JUST OVER 3000 RIDES.

THIS WAS UP FROM THE FIRST QUARTER, WHICH WAS ABOUT 2200 RIDES.

IN TERMS OF MEMBERSHIP.

SO THOSE ARE MEMBERS THAT HAVE PASSES AND ARE ABLE TO USE THE SYSTEM.

IN THE FIRST QUARTER THERE WAS 25 ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS, 75 MONTHLY.

THAT HAS INCREASED IN THE SECOND QUARTER TO 40 ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS AND 136 MONTHLY MEMBERSHIPS, A KEY METRIC THAT THE CITY USES TO KIND OF TRACK THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM IS CALLED THE AVERAGE TRIPS PER BIKE PER DAY.

RIGHT NOW THAT IS AT ABOUT 0.5.

THAT GRAPH THERE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EACH MONTH.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT RANGES IN APRIL FROM 0.6 TO 0.4, KIND OF THE SWEET SPOT THAT WHAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE IS ABOUT ONE TRIP PER BIKE PER DAY.

SO NOW THAT THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN UP AND OPERATIONAL, THE CITY IS LOOKING TO EXPAND.

THEY ARE WORKING WITH BCYCLE TO EXPAND.

THE SYSTEM. BCYCLE HAS APPLIED FOR TEN NEW STATIONS, 60 NEW DOCKS AND APPROXIMATELY 35 NEW E-BIKES, WHICH WOULD BE OPERATIONAL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

STAFF DID CONFER WITH WITH STAFF AT THE CITY OF ENCINITAS JUST TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN RUNNING.

STAFF SPOKE VERY, VERY HIGHLY OF BCYCLE.

THEY'VE ESSENTIALLY SAID THAT IT'S BEEN VERY HANDS OFF.

BCYCLE MANAGES THE SYSTEM.

THEY FUND THE SYSTEM.

SO IT'S BEEN VERY EASY IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS FOR THE CITY.

THEY DID MENTION THEY DO THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE RIDERSHIP A BIT HIGHER.

AGAIN, GETTING MORE TOWARDS THAT ONE TRIP PER BIKE PER DAY, AND THEY HOPE TO SEE THAT INCREASE AS THE SYSTEM DEVELOPS.

THEY KIND OF SEE THAT THE LIMITED SYSTEM SIZE AS IT IS NOW IS KIND OF CONTAINING THE RIDERSHIP AND THEY HOPE TO SEE MORE GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.

WITH THAT. THE NEXT STEPS IS STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PERFORMANCE OF THE SYSTEM AND WORK WITH THE CITY OF ENCINITAS ON GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK.

AND WE WILL UPDATE CITY COUNCIL ON THE STATUS OF THE PROGRAM IN FUTURE SEMIANNUAL TRANSPORTATION REPORTS.

WITH THAT. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

ALSO THAT THERE IS THE PROGRAM MANAGER FROM THE CITY OF VINCENT FROM THE BCYCLE ENCINITAS IS HERE AS WELL, IF YOU WOULD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

THANK YOU. SPEAKERS.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

MR. NORBY. THANK YOU.

EXCITING TO SEE THE PROGRAM LAUNCH.

I KNOW THAT IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO THEY STARTED DOCKED AND THEN THEY WENT DOCK-LESS, AND THEN THEY WENT DOCKED, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF, I GUESS, CONFLICT WITH MERCHANTS AS WELL AS BIKE RETAILERS.

WHAT HAS THE EXPERIENCE BEEN IN ENCINITAS? I KNOW [INAUDIBLE], FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT THERE ON G STREET AND 101 HAS A HUGE ELECTRIC BIKE FACILITY, BUT HOW HAS THAT WORKED THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IN TERMS OF THE CONFLICT BETWEEN MAYBE MERCHANTS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO HAVING A DOCK STATION IN FRONT OF THEM OR AN EXISTING BICYCLE SHOP? YEAH. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD MUCH NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE VENDORS, YOU KNOW, THE BIKE SHARE SYSTEM IS SET UP TO SERVE A DIFFERENT USER.

BIKE SHARE IS MORE FOR SHORT TRIPS, FOR TRIPS FROM TRANSIT STATIONS TO MAJOR DESTINATIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN HOP ON AND HOP OFF.

WHEREAS THE, THE RENTAL VENDORS ARE MORE FOR LONGER TRIPS, RECREATIONAL TRIPS THAT GO LONGER DISTANCES AND REQUIRE GREATER AMOUNTS OF TIME.

RIGHT, WHICH LEADS ME TO MY SECOND QUESTION, AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE TWO COASTER STATIONS HERE, AND SO OBVIOUSLY, I DO KNOW THAT YOU CAN TAKE A BIKE ON A COASTER.

I'VE DONE IT MANY, MANY TIMES, BUT THERE'S ROOM FOR ABOUT THREE PER TRAIN.

SO FOLKS WHO ARE COMING UP IN DAY TRIPPING UP TO NORTH COUNTY FROM SAN DIEGO WANT TO GO ON A BIKE RIDE.

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SO WHAT PERCENTAGE IS MAYBE OR DO WE HAVE THAT IS RENTED AT OR NEAR A TRANSIT FACILITY OR, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE ARRIVING.

USED TO BE YOU'D RENT A CAR, COME UP TO OUR HOTELS AND NOW YOU'RE UBER LIFTING UP TO OUR HOTELS.

SO GREAT TO HAVE A BICYCLE FACILITY.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY DATA IN TERMS OF HOSPITALITY OR TRANSIT USERS OF THE BIKE? IS THAT THE MAJORITY OR IS IT RESIDENCE OR WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT? I DO NOT HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO, GET THAT FROM EITHER BCYCLE OR THE CITY OF ENCINITAS.

THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION.

[INAUDIBLE] GENTLEMAN HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? WELCOME TO CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.

TIM [INAUDIBLE], PROGRAM MANAGER.

GREAT QUESTION. WE HAVE A STATION WITHIN ABOUT 150 FEET OF THE COASTER STOP IN ENCINITAS.

IT'S OUR THIRD MOST USED STATION.

THE OTHER TWO ARE ON OPPOSITE ENDS OF OUR SYSTEM THAT MAPS SHOWED A STATION IN LEUCADIA AS WELL AS A STATION IN CARDIFF, AND SO THAT D STREET STATION IS THE THIRD HIGHEST USAGE.

IT'S ANECDOTAL, WHETHER IT'S DUE TO COASTER USERS GETTING OFF THE TRAIN AND USING THE BIKES.

WE'RE DEEPLY COMMITTED TO BEING A PART OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM.

WE'RE WORKING ON WE SHOULD HAVE IN HAND AN MOU FROM NCTD AND THE CITY OF ENCINITAS TO PUT A BIKE, SOME BIKE DOCKS ON THE PLATFORM.

WITH THIS NEWEST APPROVAL OF OUR PERMIT THAT'S PENDING.

SO I THINK IN A WORD, YES, IT WOULD.

THERE ARE FOLKS THAT COME UP USING THE COASTER AND THEN USE OUR BIKES IMMEDIATELY, AND THINGS I'VE SHARED WITH NATHAN ALREADY IN PLANNING FOR CARLSBAD OUR BIKE DOCKS AT BOTH POINSETTIA AND CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE TRAIN STATIONS, AND ASSUMING THAT YOU WOULD ASSIST US WITH A NEW RELATIONSHIP AND CARLSBAD IN NCTD.

SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS TRY TO KIND OF TIE TOGETHER.

OKAY GREAT. THANK YOU, AND LAST QUESTION IS, YOU HAVE A ONE YEAR WITH, I THINK THREE OPTIONAL YEARS OR TWO OPTIONAL YEARS.

HAS THAT BEEN EXECUTED YET OR ARE YOU STILL IN THAT ONE YEAR? WE JUST RENEWED OUR BUSINESS LICENSE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR WITH NO FEEDBACK IN A NEGATIVE WAY YET.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MS. ACOSTA. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION.

MS. BHAT-PATEL.

THANK YOU AND THANKS TO COUNCILMEMBER NORBY FOR ASKING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I JUST OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THAT WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE US PREVIOUSLY, JUST IN TERMS OF HAVING SOME SORT OF E-BIKE SHARE PROGRAM A WHILE AGO, SOMETHING A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HAD ASKED ABOUT WAS AROUND LIKE LIABILITY AND FOLKS SIGNING SOMETHING.

I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHEN THEY'RE UTILIZING LIKE UBER OR LYFT THAT THEY'RE TAKING ON THAT LIABILITY OF UTILIZING THAT MOBILITY DEVICE.

YES. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN A USER WOULD SIGN UP ON THE ACCOUNT THROUGH THE APP, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE SIGNUP PROCESS IS THAT LIABILITY AGREEMENT, AND THEN IS THERE ANY DATA WITH REGARDS TO ANY PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED INTERACTIONS WHERE FOLKS ARE MAYBE RIDING UNSAFELY OR ANYTHING TO THAT REGARD? I'M JUST CURIOUS, GIVEN SOME OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES HERE IN OUR CITY, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.

GREAT QUESTION. WE WHILE IT IS A FAIRLY PASSIVE APPROACH THROUGH THE SIGNUP PROCESS AND THE APP OF SOMEONE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND OBEYING ALL LAWS REGARDING RIDING A BICYCLE, WE ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TEACHING SAFETY CLASSES. WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTING LOCAL LEAGUE OF AMERICAN CYCLISTS EDUCATIONAL CLASSES BY PROVIDING FREE BIKES FOR ANY PARTICIPANTS THAT NEED THEM.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY INTERACTION, ANY NEGATIVE INTERACTIONS FROM OUR RIDERS.

THE BIKES ARE THE SPEED IS GOVERNED ON OUR BIKES TO 15 MILES AN HOUR AND THEY'RE JUST A PEDAL ASSIST BIKE, NOT A THROTTLE BIKE. SO THERE'S FAR LESS LIKELIHOOD OF THEM BEING MISUSED IN A IN RELATION TO SPEED AT LEAST, AND WE HAVE HEARD OF NO REPORTS OF REALLY ILLEGAL USE RUNNING THROUGH STOP SIGNS OR STOPLIGHTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE'VE HAD JUST ONE INCIDENT WHERE A RIDER WAS STRUCK BY A CAR, BUT THEY WERE FOUND TO BE AT FAULT.

THE RIDER WAS FOUND TO BE AT FAULT.

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THE BIKE WAS WE WERE ABLE TO REHAB IT AND THE RIDER HAS SINCE RECOVERED, SO KNOCK ON WOOD, EVERYTHING'S BEEN VERY, VERY GOOD, AND MOST OF OUR RIDERS SEEM TO BE VERY LAW ABIDING AS THEY DO.

RIGHT. GREAT, AND THEN IS THERE ANY SORT OF AGE REQUIREMENT TO RIDE OR IS IT JUST ANYONE THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO? YEAH, WE DO REQUIRE RIDERS TO BE 18 YEARS OR OLDER TO SIGN THAT END USER LEGAL AGREEMENT AS PART OF THE APP.

IT'S AN ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE.

OKAY, GREAT, AND THAT'S THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

COMMENTS, MR. NORBY, AND JUST ONE COMMENT.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF ENCINITAS AND FOR BCYCLE FOR FOR GETTING IT ON THE GROUND AND GOING, IT'S GROWING.

I'M REALLY, REALLY INTERESTED IN IN HOW THIS TRANSPIRES WITH NCTD IN TERMS OF DOCK STATIONS AT THEIR STATION AND THEN THE USAGE OF THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT INFORMATION, I GUESS, AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN IN THE FUTURE.

VERY GOOD. MS. ACOSTA.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS AN UPDATE AND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE UPDATES AND SEE HOW THE PROGRAM IN ENCINITAS CONTINUES ALONG AND ANY ISSUES THAT THEY MAY HAVE OR GREAT IDEAS FOR US.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT UPDATE.

THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE. MS. BHAT-PATEL.

YEAH, SIMILAR. JUST SENTIMENTS OF GRATITUDE FOR GETTING THIS UPDATE TO US, AND I THINK IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE AS WE START TO HEAR MORE.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

[12. SAN DIEGO REGIONAL DECARBONIZATION FRAMEWORK]

ITEM NUMBER 12.

MR. CHADWICK? YES, SIR. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL DECARBONIZATION FRAMEWORK, AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BRING UP OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR, JAMIE WOOD, ALONG WITH OUR SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER, KATIE HENDRICK, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION, SIR.

HI, KATIE HENDRICK, SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER AND CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE CITY, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.

PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO LAST JANUARY, THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DIRECTED THE CREATION OF A FRAMEWORK WITH THE GOAL TO REACH NET ZERO CARBON AS A REGION BY MID-CENTURY. THE COUNTY HAS PARTNERED WITH THE SCHOOL OF GLOBAL POLICY AND STRATEGY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SAN DIEGO, AS WELL AS THE ENERGY POLICY INITIATIVE CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO TO DEVELOP SCIENCE BASED PATHWAYS TO REDUCE EMISSIONS IN KEY SECTORS OF THE REGION.

TODAY'S PRESENTATION GIVES AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS SO FAR AND THE NEXT STEPS AS THE COUNTY IS LOOKING TO FORMULATE AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER CITIES AND AGENCIES, AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE AND NONPROFIT SECTORS , AND I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO MURTAZA BAXAMUSA, PROGRAM MANAGER FOR REGIONAL SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE COUNTY, AND HE IS LEADING THE REGIONAL DECARBONIZATION FRAMEWORK EFFORT.

SIR, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW YOU DO HAVE 10 MINUTES.

THERE'LL BE A CLOCK IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE ARE GOING TO HOLD YOU TO THE 10 MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU, KATIE.

MY NAME IS MURTAZA BAXAMUSA.

I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR REGIONAL SUSTAINABILITY, AND I'M HERE INTRODUCING OUR NEW OFFICE FROM THE COUNTY, THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

WE HAVE TWO DUAL ROLES OUTWARD FACING AS REGIONAL COLLABORATION AND INWARD FACING AS LIAISONS TO OUR 43 DEPARTMENTS, AND PARTICULARLY THE AREAS OF SUSTAINABILITY, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND TRIBAL ISSUES.

SO THIS PROJECT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BRING YOU TODAY IS KATIE MENTIONED THE REGIONAL DECARBONIZATION FRAMEWORK.

IT WAS DIRECTED BY OUR BOARD LAST YEAR.

TO BEGIN A PROCESS WHICH WAS SCIENCE BASED, AND THEN FROM THERE WE ARE TRANSITIONING TO ACTION NEXT.

SO WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE RECENT HEADLINES.

IN TERMS OF FIRES, HEATWAVES, AND IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT EFFECTIVE CHANGE, THERE NEEDS TO BE CONCERTED EFFORT BETWEEN CITIES, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, TRIBES, LABOR INDUSTRIES, UNIVERSITIES, NON-PROFITS AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

THIS IS WHY WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED BY BY ANYONE , BUT NONETHELESS, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET TO ZERO CARBON EMISSIONS BY MID-CENTURY.

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NEXT. THIS WAS A TECHNICAL REPORT THAT KATIE MENTIONED.

IT IS A COLLABORATION WITH EXPERTS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

NEXT. THE REPORT ANALYZED EMISSIONS IN AND REDUCTION STRATEGIES IN ELECTRICITY GENERATION'S NATURAL GAS USE AND BUILDINGS ON ROAD TRANSPORTATION BASED ON A DOWN SCALE ENERGY MODELING, AS WELL AS NATURAL CLIMATE SOLUTIONS THAT CAN SEQUESTER AND STORE CARBON DIOXIDE. THIS REPORT ALSO ESTIMATED EMPLOYMENT IMPACTS FROM CLIMATE INVESTMENTS DISCUSSED KEY POLICY CONSIDERATIONS AND CASE STUDIES, CONDUCTED A LOCAL POLICY OPPORTUNITY ANALYSIS AND HOW THE REGION CAN MOVE FORWARD BY BRINGING ALONG THE REGION'S WORKFORCE.

NEXT. WE HAVE OUR TIMELINE HERE VERY BRIEFLY THROUGH SPRING.

THAT'S WHEN WE INTEND TO GO TO OUR BOARD WITH ADOPTION OF THIS FRAMEWORK.

NOW, THERE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT I MENTIONED IS NOT JUST A TECHNICAL STUDY AND THE WORKFORCE STUDY, BUT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS THE IMPLEMENTATION PATHWAYS.

WE CALL IT THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAYBOOK BECAUSE IT'S MEANT TO BE AN ACCESSIBLE RESOURCE.

AS I MENTIONED, IT'S NOT A PLAN.

IT'S NOT A MANDATE.

IT IS A DISCUSSION AMONGST THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS ON HOW DO WE GET THERE.

WE KNOW SOME OF THE STATE MANDATES ARE COMING AND WE KNOW THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY IS GOING TO GET WORSE.

SO NEXT.

SO THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A BROAD CONCEPT.

IT'S THE BUILDING UP ON A DATABASE OF ALL CLIMATE ACTIONS IN THE REGION, FINDING WHAT IS THE BEST IN CLASS, GETTING THE EXPERIENCE OF DIFFERENT CITIES, PRIVATE STAKEHOLDERS, NONPROFITS ON WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DIDN'T WORK, AND BUILDING UP ON THAT KIND OF A MENU OF OPTIONS.

SO NEXT WITH THIS, WITH THIS KIND OF A FRAMEWORK, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BY JANUARY, WE WILL BE GOING INTO EVERY SUPERVISORY DISTRICT TO HAVE REGIONAL CONVENINGS AND WE WILL BE INVITING ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, ALL NONPROFITS, ALL PARTNERS AND PRIVATE SECTOR INDIVIDUALS INTO THESE CONVENINGS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE REGION, REGIONALLY, DISTRICT BY DISTRICT CONVERSATION.

NEXT. THESE ARE SOME OF THE SAMPLE TOPICS THAT THE EXPERTS WERE CONVENING AT THIS TIME.

SPECIAL TOPIC, WORKING GROUPS AND GETTING INPUT FROM EXPERTS.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PARTICIPATION OF THE CITY STAFF, THE CITY MANAGEMENT IN THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD SO FAR, AND GOING FORWARD, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP AND COLLABORATION AND THE IDEAS OF WHAT CAN WE DO TOGETHER.

SO THAT IS WHAT MY OUR LEADERSHIP IS LOOKING FOR AS WELL, IS WHAT IS THE INSIGHTS HERE ON HOW DO WE GET THE REGION FORWARD TO BE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION, KNOWING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE MONEY COMING IN FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW FROM THE STATE LEVEL TO THE CLIMATE CHANGE INITIATIVE, AND RECENTLY LIKE [INAUDIBLE] CURRENTLY THROUGH THE UC SYSTEM AS WELL.

SO THERE IS CONSIDERABLE STATE AND FEDERAL RESOURCES AT STAKE IF WE ARE MOVING IN A CONCERTED MANNER.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE IDEAS ON BUILDINGS, ELECTRICITY, FOOD SYSTEMS AND CIRCULAR ECONOMY, LAND USE AND NATURAL CLIMATE SOLUTIONS AND TRANSPORTATION.

WE ADDED THAT SECTOR IN THE MIDDLE ABOUT CIRCULAR ECONOMY BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT DESPITE ALL OUR EFFORTS AND CLIMATE ACTION PLANS, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL THE EMISSIONS IN THE WAY IN WHICH WE DO OUR INVENTORIES.

SO A CIRCULAR ECONOMY ADDRESSES THE IDEA THAT SOME OF OUR EMISSIONS THAT COULD BE OFFSHORED, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE GROW OUR FOOD THAT'S GROWING SOMEWHERE ELSE, OR WE PURCHASE PRODUCTS WHOSE EMISSIONS ARE OFFSHORED, THAT WE ACTUALLY CAPTURE THEM ALL.

THESE ARE THE NEXT STEPS IN TERMS OF HOW THE COUNTY STAFF IS APPROACHING THIS , BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM LEADERSHIP AND TRYING TO TRYING TO PUT IN THE STEPS, KNOWING THAT THIS REGIONAL EFFORT IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE, NOT JUST IN THE STATE BUT IN THE NATION IN HOW WE ARE USING THIS KIND OF A VISIONARY FRAMEWORK TO BE ABLE TO GET US TO MOVE ACROSS JURISDICTIONS WHICH HAVE AND WILL MAINTAIN THEIR OWN LOCAL AUTHORITY.

SO THAT IS WHY THIS IS UNIQUE.

THE GREEN BOXES SHOW THE WORK, THE PIECES THAT I MENTIONED, THE TECHNICAL REPORT, THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT STUDY, THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAYBOOK.

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WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS REGIONAL ACTIONS, AND THEN ON THE BLUE, IT'S SLIGHTLY HIDDEN THERE IS REGIONAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND REGIONAL CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

THESE ARE POSSIBLE BOARD ACTIONS THAT WE WOULD GO TO IN SEPTEMBER NEXT.

SO WHAT ARE EXAMPLES OF REGIONAL ACTIONS? THESE COULD BE SOLAR ELECTRICITY FOR LOW INCOME RENTERS, SOME KIND OF A REGIONAL MODEL WHERE CITIES HELP CITIES AND WE BUILD UP, FOR EXAMPLE, MODEL BUILDING CODE FOR ELECTRIFICATION.

SO THE STANDARDIZATION SO THAT DEVELOPERS DON'T FACE DIFFERENT RULES EVERYWHERE ELSE, EVERYWHERE THEY GO, REGIONAL PROGRAM FOR SUITABLE TREE PLANTING.

SO IT'S WE SELECT AND PRIORITIZE OUR RESOURCES.

SO IT IMPACTS, SO IT ADDRESSES BOTH CLIMATE ACTION AS WELL AS MITIGATION RESILIENCY.

I THINK THAT RESILIENCY AND ADAPTATION ARE GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF HOW WE ATTRACT THESE FUNDING SOURCES AS A REGION AND THE SCALE OF EFFORT THAT IS NEEDED TO ADDRESS THIS.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE PRIORITIES.

WITH THESE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL AND CROSS SECTORAL PARTNERSHIPS, OUR REGION IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE ON DECARBONIZATION, BOTH NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR THESE ACTIONS.

WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS SO THAT WE CAN MOST EFFECTIVELY WORK TOGETHER ON GETTING TO ZERO CARBON EMISSIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS QUESTIONS, MR. NORBY. MS. ACOSTA. MS. BHAT-PATEL. ANY STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? OKAY, I'M NOT BEGGING.

NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DR. BAXAMUSA. AS I SAID.

OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR WORKING WITH DR.

BAXAMUSA. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN OUR STAFF REPORT, AS WELL AS THE PRESENTATION YOU GAVE WITH THE SLIDESHOW JUST NOW.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE SHOWN AS A COUNCIL THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING MORE.

I KNOW OUR STAFF IS WORKING.

NEXT YEAR THEY'LL BE BRINGING TO US AN UPDATED CAP AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT WE'RE IN A CHANGING ENVIRONMENT, PUN INTENDED, WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT A CAP LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT CITIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THINK THAT THEY CAN DO.

I SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE INSTITUTE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH HAS A LARGE SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM, AND WE CONTINUE TO FIND NEW BEST PRACTICES, NEW MODELS, NEW THINGS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN DO.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT COMES OUT OF THE COUNTY.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT COMES OUT OF OUR REALLY AWESOME STAFF AT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, AND I KNOW THAT WE CAN FIND WAYS TO WORK TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A CONTINUED CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND THE COUNTY.

MS. BHAT-PATEL YES, THANK YOU, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO DR.

BAXAMUSA AS WELL, I KNOW YOU HAD TO WAIT QUITE SOME TIME TO PRESENT, SO THANKS FOR BEARING WITH US HERE, AND OF COURSE TO OUR STAFF FOR ALWAYS BEING SO INVOLVED ON THESE PARTICULAR TOPICS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, WERE WANTING TO BE AS MUCH FORWARD THINKING, IN PARTICULAR WITH PARTICULAR REGARDS TO SUSTAINABILITY, AND SO IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE WHAT OTHER ENTITIES ARE DOING, AND OF COURSE COLLABORATION IN ANY WAY WITH OUR COUNTY COUNTERPARTS IS GREAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY REACHING ANY SORT OF GOALS WITH REGARDS TO CLIMATE ACTION IS GOING TO BE A REGIONAL EFFORT.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE US ON OUR OWN, WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN GOALS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME DOING WHATEVER WE CAN TO STOP SOME OF THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON TOGETHER.

SO REALLY GLAD TO SEE THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND OF COURSE, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT COMES OUT OF IT, AND OF COURSE ON OUR TEAM CONTINUING TO WORK ON OUR SIDE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, SIR, AND THANK YOU TO STAFF.

OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A STATEMENT.

THE QUESTIONS THAT MY COLLEAGUES ASKED KIND OF BROUGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS UP.

FIRST OF ALL. REALLY, REALLY HARD JOB AHEAD OF YOU TO GET THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN APPROVED AT THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.

SO I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK FOR THAT.

I'M ENCOURAGED TO SEE YOUR FOCUS ON ON FOOD.

FIRST OF ALL, I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING A COUNTY OF THREE AND A HALF MILLION PEOPLE THAT JUST TRUCKS IN EVERY MORSEL THAT THEY EAT, AND THE COUNTY'S BEEN WORKING HARD ON GROWING, AS YOU KNOW, BOTH AGRICULTURE ORDINANCE AND OTHER ORDINANCES, AND WE IN CARLSBAD HAVE STRAWBERRY FIELDS AND FLOWER FIELDS AND SOME PRETTY HEAVY AGRICULTURAL USE.

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SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AGRICULTURE, ARE YOU LOOKING AT BOTH KIND OF CARBON SEQUESTRATION AS WELL AS KIND OF OFFSETTING TRANSPORTATION IF WE'RE GROWING MORE HERE? IS CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? YES, COUNCIL MEMBER FOOD SYSTEM, AS YOU MENTIONED, HAS BEEN A KIND OF CRITICAL COMPONENT ON FROM OUR BOARD, WHICH IS WHY WE ELEVATED WHEN WE STARTED THIS REPORT, AND MOST CLIMATE ACTION PLANS DO NOT ATTRIBUTE A LARGE EMISSIONS TO THE PRODUCTION OF FOOD ITSELF, BUT LIKE YOU MENTIONED, A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S OUTSOURCED THE OFTEN SORRY OFFSHORE AS YOU TRUCK IN FOOD OR YOU BRING IT IN IN SHIPS.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY FOOD SYSTEM ITSELF DOES NOT GET ELEVATED.

SO WE ELEVATED IT, AND BUT ELEVATING IS NOT JUST ABOUT EMISSIONS.

IT IS REALLY ABOUT CREATING THE SYSTEM.

SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONED A SPECIAL REPORT WITH THE URBAN PLANNING DEPARTMENT AT UCSD TO TRY TO SEE WHAT TAKE ALL THE DIFFERENT STUDIES WE HAVE AND WHAT IS THE ACTION WE CAN TAKE TO GROW OUR OWN FOOD.

AND SO THAT I MEAN, WE GOT TO FEED OUR PEOPLE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, NOT JUST GROW OUR FOOD FOR SUSTAINABILITY SAKE, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

THE PRIMARY ISSUE WE HEARD FROM THE FARMING COMMUNITY IS ECONOMICS OF LAND, AND SO WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THAT PARTNERSHIP TO ADDRESS THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST TALK WITH OUR STAFF.

WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF REALLY CREATIVE THINGS THAT I THINK HAVE STOOD THE TEST OF TIME OVER MANY DECADES TO KEEP AGRICULTURE HERE, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S A TOUGH ONE.

LABORER LAND COST EVERYTHING, BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU, SIR, AND THANK YOU, STAFF.

NOW WE HAVE A CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC COMMENT.

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DO YOU KNOW WHO SHE IS? OKAY, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID THEY RECOGNIZED WHO SHE IS AND THEY SAW HER LEAVE.

CLOSING COMMENTS. MR. NORBY.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

I WOULD JUST SAY I HOPE EVERYBODY CELEBRATED INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY.

IT WAS GREAT. I LOVE THAT.

I REALLY, REALLY DO, AND I'LL JUST CONCLUDE WITH THAT.

MS. ACOSTA THANK YOU, AND IT'S I ALWAYS LIKE TO CELEBRATE ALL THE HOLIDAYS.

SO WHETHER IT'S INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY OR THIS FALL SEASON, DAY OF THE DEAD IS COMING UP.

I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO A FESTIVE FALL TIME.

SO I JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A REALLY GREAT WEEK AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM SO MANY OF YOU ON THURSDAY OFFICE HOURS, THAT'S 3:00.

EVERY THURSDAY AFTERNOON I SIT BY MY PHONE WAITING FOR THE PUBLIC TO CALL ME, AND THEY DO , AND THEY MAKES ME VERY HAPPY, AND SOMETIMES I HAVE SO MANY CALLS THAT I HAVE TO CALL THEM BACK LATER, BUT I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CALL ME THURSDAY AFTERNOONS.

THANK YOU. MS. BHAT-PATEL. YES, THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT WAS GREAT TO BE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY OPEN HOUSE THIS PAST WEEKEND.

I KNOW I'M SURE MANY OF US WERE THERE STOPPING BY.

IT WAS AWESOME TO TAKE MY SON.

IT WAS HIS FIRST TIME LAST YEAR.

HE WAS A LITTLE TOO YOUNG, SO I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO, BUT DEFINITELY THIS YEAR IT WAS EXCITING TO TAKE HIM AND HE HAD FUN BEING ABLE TO INTERACT WITH ALL OF THE FOLKS THERE AND JUST SEEING ALL THE DIFFERENT VEHICLES AND THINGS THAT I KNOW HE USUALLY ADMIRES FROM AFAR.

SO JUST BEING ABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON AND BEING ABLE TO DO THAT WAS FUN FOR HIM, AND THEN, OF COURSE, YES, I THINK LAST WEEK JUST WANTED TO SAY I KNOW FOLKS WERE OBSERVING YOM KIPPUR AND THEN OF COURSE, YESTERDAY WAS INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY, AND JUST IN GENERAL, IN TERMS OF ANY OF THE COMMITTEES, WE DID HAVE A LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES MEETING YESTERDAY AND WE HEARD ABOUT SB 1383 DURING THAT CONVERSATION AND JUST WHAT FOLKS ARE DOING.

AND OF COURSE, JUST WANTING TO BRAINSTORM A LITTLE BIT WITH REGARDS TO WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THAT, AND THAT WAS MY FIRST MEETING THAT I CHAIRED.

SO IT WAS FUN TO BE ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE THERE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DO ACTUALLY, I KNOW I HAVEN'T MENTIONED THIS YET, BUT FOR NOW WE HAVE A NEW COMMITTEE.

IT'S THE RAIL SAFETY AND COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT COMMITTEE, AND I'LL BE ATTENDING THAT ON THURSDAY AS A MEMBER TO JUST TALK ABOUT RAIL SAFETY AND JUST IN GENERAL, WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF JUST ENHANCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES INVOLVED FOR THE CORRIDOR, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THE BROWN ACT REQUIRES THAT WE ANNOUNCE ANY TIME WE EXPECT THERE TO BE MORE THAN TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT AT AN EVENT AND ONE WILL BE THURSDAY, OCTOBER 13TH, 10:30 A.M.

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TO NOON AT PACIFIC WIND APARTMENTS.

GROUNDBREAKING EVENT THAT WILL BE AT 3736 HARDING STREET IN CARLSBAD.

CITY MANAGER. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. OCTOBER 12TH IS NATIONAL WALK AND ROLL TO SCHOOL DAY.

OBVIOUSLY, WE STILL HAVE OUR DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY, BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ENCOURAGES OUR PARENTS AND STUDENTS TO JOIN FORCES TOWARD TRAFFIC SAFETY AROUND OUR SCHOOLS. PLEASE SLOW IN THE SCHOOL ZONE.

WATCH FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS AND PAY ATTENTION TO CROSSWALKS AND ALWAYS FOLLOW THE CROSSING GUARD INSTRUCTIONS.

THERE'S MORE INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY.

NOTHING FOR ME. THANK YOU.

CITY CLERK. NOTHING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL.

WE STAND ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.