Oct 27, 2022 Planning Commission Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION FOR OCTOBER 27TH, 2022.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LED BY COMMISSIONER MEENES.

READY BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ROLL CALL MADAM CLERK.

YES. COMMISSIONER LUNA.

ABSENT. COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.

ABSENT. COMMISSIONER MEENES PRESENT.

MR. SABELLICO HERE.

COMMISSIONER MERZ HERE.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY HERE AND CHAIR STINE HERE.

WE HAVE FIVE OF THE SEVEN COMMISSIONERS IN ATTENDANCE.

NEXT ITEM WOULD TYPICALLY BE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

WE HAVE NO MINUTES FROM FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS, SO WE'LL GO ON TO THE ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON MATTERS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS FOR MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SIR WE DO NOT. OKAY.

THANK YOU MUCH. THEN WE WILL PROCEED TO OUR ONE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

[1. PRESENTATION ON THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN Provide feedback to staff regarding various options in the Safer Streets Together Plan for staff to present to City Council.]

AND TO INTRODUCE THAT PROGRAM, INTRODUCE MIKE STRONG, WHO IS OUR ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MR. STRONG. THANK YOU, CHAIR STINE AND GOOD AFTERNOON, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

THE CITY COUNCIL PROCLAIMED A LOCAL EMERGENCY IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR AND THE PRESENTATION IS TO THE BENEFIT OF THE ATTENDING PUBLIC AND ALSO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN.

THERE ARE FIVE COMMUNICATIONS ADDITIONAL CORRESPONDENCES THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY AT YOUR CHAIR.

THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN PUBLISHED ONLINE, SO ANY ATTENDING MEMBER FROM THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO VIEW THAT INFORMATION.

PRESENTING THIS ITEM IS CITY MANAGER SCOTT CHADWICK AND TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR TOM FRANK.

WELCOME. GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND GOOD AFTERNOON, ALL.

MY NAME IS SCOTT CHADWICK AND I AM THE CITY MANAGER AND ALONG WITH ME IS TOM FRANK OR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS THE CITY'S ENGINEER.

I GOT TO TELL YOU, I REALLY AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE ALL OF YOU, BECAUSE TYPICALLY I'M NOT I DON'T FIND MYSELF MAKING PRESENTATIONS BEFORE OUR COMMISSIONS.

SO THIS IS A BIT EXCITING FOR ME.

SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I DO HAVE A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER, BUT WE'LL TRY AND DO IT AS AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE.

IN MY ROLE, AGAIN, I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH CITY COUNCIL, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK HAS PRESENTED ITSELF A BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION.

SO WHAT I AM GOING TO COVER IS THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS, AND THIS IS TO RECEIVE THE REPORT REGARDING OUR SAFER STREETS PLAN AND THEN ALSO TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO STAFF RELATED TO OUR PROPOSAL, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR YOUR HELP TO HELP US IN DETERMINING WHAT ADDITIONAL ACTIONS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT TRAFFIC SAFETY EMERGENCY.

NOW TODAY'S RECOMMENDED ACTIONS ARE TO RECEIVE THE REPORT AND AGAIN TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK.

NOW HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXACT MOTION FROM CITY COUNCIL AND WE'LL GET INTO WHAT THOSE OPTIONS MEAN A LITTLE LATER.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR YOUR INPUT.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS TODAY'S TOPIC IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM NORMALLY WHAT IS BEFORE YOU.

AND YOU MAY BE WONDERING SPECIFICALLY WHAT CITY COUNCIL IS ASKING THIS COMMISSION TO DO.

NOW, UNLIKE YOUR NORMAL AGENDA ITEMS WHICH ARE FAIRLY STRUCTURED, THIS IS THE OPPOSITE.

WHAT IS BEFORE YOU AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS YOUR DIRECTION, THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GIVEN BY CITY COUNCIL.

NOW, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO CONSIDER YOUR ROLES AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT YOU ARE INFORMED COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO USE OUR ROADWAYS EVERY DAY.

DO YOU THINK IN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'LL BE PHRASING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THINGS LIKE DO YOU THINK THAT CITY COUNCIL IS GENERALLY HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THE ACTIONS BEING TAKEN? WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PRIORITIES SHOULD BE AND WHY? WHAT QUESTIONS COME UP FOR YOU? THIS WILL ALL BE HELPFUL FOR CITY COUNCIL.

WE WOULD IDEALLY LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS ON THE INPUT THAT YOU'LL BE SHARING WITH US.

HOWEVER, WE'RE ALSO HAPPY TO DOCUMENT YOUR INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS.

NOW THAT SAID, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION, I DO HAVE ABOUT A 20 TO 25 MINUTE PRESENTATION.

ACTUALLY, IT RUNS AT 24:15, AND I'D LIKE TO START BY PROVIDING YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

SO ON AUGUST 23RD, WE DID DECLARE A LOCAL EMERGENCY ON TRAFFIC SAFETY.

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AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, STAFF PRESENTED THE OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION .

BECAUSE THERE WERE OVER 40 INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS TO CONSIDER.

WE TRIED TO GROUP THEM INTO EFFECT OF WHAT WE WERE CALLING MENU OF OPTIONS, AND THE COLUMNS HAD AN OPTION A, B, AND C.

BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS REALLY TO ASSIST COUNCIL IN ITS DELIBERATIVE PROCESS, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT CITY COUNCIL COULD MIX AND MATCH BASED OFF OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WERE THERE.

WE WERE JUST AGAIN, ALLOWING IT OR SETTING IT UP FOR EASE OF DELIVERY.

NOW, CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSED THE OPTIONS AND DECIDED TO APPROVE ALL THE ITEMS THAT WERE CONTAINED IN OPTION A AND TO REFER THE ACTIONS IN OPTIONS B AS WELL AS OPTION C TO THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR INPUT.

AND THAT IS AGAIN, WHY WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

SO ON OCTOBER 3RD, STAFF PRESENTED TO THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION WITH OPTIONS IN FOCUSED ON ENGINEERING AND INFRASTRUCTURE ELEMENTS. FINALLY, ON OCTOBER 18TH, CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO EXTEND THE EMERGENCY, SOMETHING REQUIRED AT LEAST EVERY 60 DAYS UNDER THE DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY.

SO FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I AM GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME EXPLAINING THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION AND OUR OVERALL APPROACH TO ADDRESSING TRAFFIC SAFETY.

I'LL THEN REVIEW SOME OF THE FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENTS ALREADY IN PLACE, ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED TO DATE, AS WELL AS OPTIONS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU.

THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEND THE BULK OF TODAY'S TIME MAKING OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL AS LISTEN TO YOUR INPUT.

SO TO KICK THINGS OFF, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION PROCESS.

CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 8630, AS WELL AS CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 6.04.

EMPOWER THE CITY MANAGER TO PROCLAIM THE EXISTENCE OF A LOCAL EMERGENCY SUBJECT TO THE RATIFICATION OF CITY COUNCIL WHEN CONDITIONS OF EXTREME PERIL EITHER EXIST OR THREATEN TO EXIST WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

NOW, PROCLAIMING A LOCAL EMERGENCY ALLOWED US TO ACCOMPLISH FOUR IMMEDIATE ITEMS TO MORE EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THE THREAT.

WE WERE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY CENTRALIZE OUR MANAGEMENT OF OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE THROUGH OUR EOC, WHICH IS OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

IT ALSO ALLOWED US TO IMMEDIATELY REDEPLOY OUR RESOURCES, STREAMLINE OUR PROCUREMENT, AND OTHER PROCESSES, AND THEN FINALLY INCREASE THE FOCUS AND COLLABORATION AMONG OUR RESIDENTS OR BUSINESSES AND AS WELL AS OTHER AGENCIES.

NEXT, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER SOME OF THE PRINCIPLES OUR RESPONSE IS BASED ON.

AND FIRST, OUR OUR EFFORTS ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE THREE E'S OF TRAFFIC SAFETY.

THERE'S EDUCATION.

AND THE EDUCATION REALLY IS TO FOCUS OR RAISE AWARENESS ON TRAFFIC SAFETY RULES AND CREATE A STRONG SOCIAL NORM AROUND TRAFFIC SAFETY BEHAVIORS.

ENGINEERING, WHICH IS AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR ROADWAYS, THINGS LIKE DESIGNING ROADS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT A SAFE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE THROUGH ALL MODES OF TRAVEL.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST E IS THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, WHICH IS ENSURING THAT WE'RE HOLDING ALL USERS OF THE ROADWAYS ACCOUNTABLE TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE ROAD AND ENGAGING IN THOSE SAFE BEHAVIORS.

SAID ANOTHER WAY THINK OF IT AS THE THREE THREE LEGGED STOOL.

THE THREE LEGGED STOOL WORKS BECAUSE IT'S BALANCED.

BUT IF WE TAKE ONE OF THE E'S AWAY FROM OUR THREE LEGGED STOOL, THE STOOL IS GOING TO FALL OVER.

LIKEWISE, EVEN THOUGH THE DRAMATIC INCREASE IN COLLISIONS INVOLVED ARE WITH BIKES AND E-BIKES, WE KNOW THAT IT TAKES EVERYONE WORKING TOGETHER TO USE OUR ROADWAYS IN A SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE MANNER.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON ANY ONE PARTICULAR MODE OF TRAVEL, BUT ON ALL MODES OF TRAVEL, EMPHASIZING THE NEED FOR EVERYONE TO DO THEIR PART.

FINALLY, OUR EFFORTS ARE GUIDED BY LAWS, POLICIES AND PROGRAMS ALREADY IN PLACE RELATED TO TRAFFIC SAFETY.

LIKE MANY THINGS IN THE CITY, IT STARTS WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2015.

NOW, THE MOBILITY ELEMENT OF THE PLAN LAYS THE FOUNDATION FOR A NEW WAY OF APPROACHING STREET DESIGN, FOCUSED ON ALL MODES OF TRAVEL.

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NOW, THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF 21, PROVIDED A FRAMEWORK FOR TURNING THE POLICIES IN THE MOBILITY ELEMENT INTO THOSE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS. BUT THE CITY ALSO HAS WHAT'S CALLED A RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

NOW, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES A STRUCTURED WAY FOR RESIDENTS TO REPORT TO THE CITY TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS.

12 NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, AND IN 11 MORE TRAFFIC STREETS ARE PLANNED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

BUT FINALLY, THE CITY HAS OVER 100 TRAFFIC RELATED PROJECTS ALREADY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.

SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO HAVE BEEN ACCELERATED BASED OFF OF CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

BUT HERE YOU CAN SEE A LIVE INTERACTIVE MAP ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THESE PROJECTS.

OTHER FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENTS INCLUDE OUR SCHOOL CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM.

NOW, THE SCHOOL OR THE CITY HAS HISTORICALLY FUNDED ABOUT 36 SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS, SERVING 14 SCHOOLS WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND TWO WEEKS AGO, THE CITY ADDED TWO ADDITIONAL MIDDLE SCHOOLS THROUGH THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

OF COURSE, THE CITY DOES ONGOING TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, AND IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO MADE CARLSBAD, THE FIRST CITY IN THE REGION TO PASS AN ORDINANCE SPECIFIC TO E-BIKE ENFORCEMENT.

THE CITY ALSO ENGAGES ON A VARIETY OF LEGISLATIVE ISSUES THROUGH OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS PLATFORM.

WE ALSO HAVE BEEN DOING ONGOING PUBLIC EDUCATION ON TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES, INCLUDING AN E-BIKE SAFETY CAMPAIGN WHICH RECENTLY WON A STATEWIDE AWARD FOR ITS VIDEO PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

NOW, SWITCHING GEARS NOW AND YES, ALL PUN INTENDED, I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED TO DATE SO THAT YOU HAVE THE CONTEXT IN MIND WHEN PROVIDING YOUR INPUT. NOW, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE PROCLAMATION OF A LOCAL EMERGENCY ON AUGUST 23RD, WE SET OUT TO INCREASE OUR EFFORTS IN THE THREE E'S.

WE ROLLED OUT A NEW PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN.

WE BEGAN WORK ON ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT COULD MORE QUICKLY BE COMPLETED.

AND THEN WE ALSO INCREASED OUR ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.

OUR IMMEDIATE ACTIONS HAVE FOCUSED ON THINGS THAT WE COULD COMPLETE IN AREAS OF THE GREATEST NEED.

AND YOU SEE THIS HEAT MAP BEFORE YOU THAT REALLY DEMONSTRATES WHERE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF INJURY COLLISIONS ARE FOR ALL MODES OF TRAVEL COMBINED.

ON THE EDUCATION FRONT, CITY STAFF INTRODUCED THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER CAMPAIGN, WHICH INCLUDES SOCIAL MEDIA, BANNERS, FLIERS, MEDIA RELATIONS, A NEW SAFER STREETS SUBSET ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AS WELL AS SEVERAL NEW VIDEOS FOCUSED ON ROADWAY SAFETY.

IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION, THE CITY DEPLOYED 17 SPEED FEEDBACK SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AS WELL AS 12 DIGITAL MESSAGE BOARDS TO HIGH COLLISION ROADWAY SEGMENTS.

WE ALSO JUST PUT INTO SERVICE A NEW STRIPING TRUCK AND ADDED GREEN, HIGH VISIBILITY MARKINGS TO BIKE LANES IN 18 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT CARLSBAD.

AND WE RECENTLY EXECUTED A CONTRACT THAT WILL ADD 37 ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE ITS ENFORCEMENT BY REASSIGNING PERSONNEL IN THE DEPARTMENT TO INCREASE FOCUS ON TRAFFIC AND ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO FILL FOUR OVERSTAFFED POSITIONS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 30TH.

NOW, SOMETHING I JUST WANT TO MENTION BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER STAFFING, WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE OVERALL BUDGET OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IN OUR POLICE FORCE.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE LEAVING.

MAYBE THEY'RE OUT ON LONG TERM DISABILITY OR WE DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEPARTING.

SO WHAT WE DO IS BY ALLOWING THE DEPARTMENT TO OVERSTAFFED BY FOUR, WE CAN FILL THOSE POSITIONS SO THAT THAT WAY THERE IS NO DOWNTIME IN THOSE VACANCIES. SO BECAUSE AGAIN, TRYING TO RECRUIT POSITIONS IN THIS DAY AND AGE, PARTICULARLY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, IT CAN TAKE A LONG TIME.

SO WE, BY OVER STAFFING.

IT JUST MINIMIZES THE DOWNTIME OF THAT PRODUCTIVE OFFICER.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, OUR OFFICERS HAVE BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE FOR HERE ON A TYPICAL MONTH, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD ISSUES ANYWHERE BETWEEN 100 AND 140 CITATIONS. SO SINCE THE WE'VE INITIATED OUR DECLARATION OF LOCAL EMERGENCY BACK ON THE 23RD, YOU SEE THE NUMBERS BEFORE YOU

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THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, THOUGH, WE HAVE ISSUED SINCE AGAIN, AUGUST 23RD, 1,098 CITATIONS AS OF YESTERDAY, AND THAT INCLUDES 937 VEHICLE CITATIONS, 134 E-BIKE CITATIONS, 24 BICYCLE CITATIONS, AND 3 PEDESTRIAN CITATIONS.

AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'VE ALSO ISSUED A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WRITTEN WARNINGS.

BUT I REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THINGS AND THE SPECIFIC CITATIONS.

AND THEN FINALLY, CITY STAFF PUT TOGETHER THAT COMPREHENSIVE MENU OF OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION, WHICH STAFF PRESENTED BACK ON SEPTEMBER 27TH.

SO THAT IS WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE OR IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.

NOW, I WILL GO OVER THE NEW ACTIONS THAT CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO COMPLETE.

THE FIRST IS CALLED VISION ZERO.

NOW, VISION ZERO IS A STRATEGY THAT'S INTENDED TO ELIMINATE TRAFFIC FATALITIES AS WELL AS SEVERE INJURIES.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A BOLD GOAL.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY ZERO, THAT'S AN AUDACIOUS STATEMENT.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT THAT PUBLIC AGENCIES REALLY SHOULD TRY AND FOCUS THEIR INTENT ON.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS A NATIONWIDE MOVEMENT.

AND CURRENTLY THERE ARE 54 CITIES AND COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT ARE OFFICIALLY PART OF THIS VISION ZERO MOVEMENT.

IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY; LA MESA AND SAN DIEGO ARE CURRENTLY ON THE MAP.

THE SAN DIEGO ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS, OR AS FREQUENTLY KNOWN AS SANDAG FOR ALL OF US, HAS ALSO INCLUDED VISION ZERO AS A STRATEGY IN ITS REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

AND THE ENCINITAS CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO SUPPORT VISION ZERO IN 2021.

THERE ARE TWO ACTIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO VISION ZERO FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THE FIRST, OBVIOUSLY, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED, WHICH WAS A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF VISION ZERO.

BUT THE SECOND WOULD BE TO DEVELOP AN ACTION PLAN.

NOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE POSSIBLE OPTIONS THAT YOU COULD WEIGH IN ON TODAY AND PROVIDE US YOUR INPUT.

BUT A QUESTION HAS COME UP ON A VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROPOSED IN OUR SAFER STREETS PLAN.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS SOME OVERLAP, SO CARLSBAD WON'T HAVE TO HAS ALREADY REALLY HAS A HEAD START.

THE VISION ZERO STRATEGY WOULD REQUIRE A LARGER FOCUS ON QUALITATIVE DATA BY SEEKING OUT TRADITIONALLY UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR LIVED EXPERIENCES.

USING OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS.

AND INTER-AGENCY TASK FORCE IS ALSO ANOTHER COMMON COMPONENT OF VISION ZERO PLANS THAT RIGHT NOW ARE NOT PART OF OUR CURRENT PLANS.

NOW WE ARE WORKING ON A SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH WILL ESTABLISH TIMELINES FOR IMPLEMENTING OUR MOBILITY ELEMENT.

COMMITTING TO SPECIFIC TIME FRAMES FOR PROJECTS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR OUR VISION ZERO FOR A VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN.

SO AGAIN, ONE WAY TO THINK OF A VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN IS IT WOULD UTILIZE THE PLANS AND STRATEGIES WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE AND ADD AN EMPHASIS ON EQUITY, INCLUSION AND INTER-AGENCY COOPERATION.

WE COULD ALSO PROCEED WITH ANY OR ALL OF THE COMPONENTS WITHIN CREATING A SEPARATE VISION ZERO PLAN.

THIS WAS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT HAD COME UP.

NOW I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE REST OF POTENTIAL ACTIONS AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THE DISCUSSION ON VISION ZERO IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

BUT AS YOU SAW IN THE DRAFT PLAN, WE BROKEN OUR ACTIONS INTO DIFFERENT TIMEFRAMES.

WE'VE NOTED THOSE ON THOSE SLIDES AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE TIME FRAMES IN YOUR PACKET.

NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC EDUCATION, CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE EXPANDING THE CURRENT EFFORTS TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ON THE ENGINEERING FRONT, WE WILL BE REVIEWING CITYWIDE SPEED LIMITS TO EVALUATE WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE LOWERED BASED ON ASSEMBLY BILL 43, WHICH IS A NEW CALIFORNIA LAW THAT GIVES MUNICIPALITIES A LITTLE MORE LEEWAY IN LOWERING THOSE SPEED LIMITS.

WE ALSO HAVE A PROJECT TO UPGRADE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS, WHICH IS SOMETHING CALLED LEAD PEDESTRIAN PHASES.

NOW, THIS BASICALLY MEANS THAT THE TIMING WOULD BE CHANGED TO GIVE PEOPLE A LITTLE MORE OF A HEAD START TO GET ACROSS THAT CROSSWALK BEFORE ACTUALLY AND THEY FOUND THAT DOING SO ACTUALLY MAKES THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE CROSSWALK MORE VISIBLE TO THE DRIVER.

SO IT IS CONSIDERED A BEST PRACTICE.

NOW, A QUESTION ALSO CAME UP RELATED TO THE LOCATION OF THESE 30 SIGNALS.

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AND IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING THE OTHER EIGHT.

WE'VE ALSO KICKED OFF WORK WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO IDENTIFY SHORT TERM TRAFFIC CALMING STRATEGIES ALONG TAMARACK AVENUE.

AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN SKYLINE ROAD AND ADAM STREET.

NOW HERE YOU CAN SEE A VIRTUAL DRIVE ALONG THE CORRIDOR TO HELP RESIDENTS VISUALIZE WHERE SPEED CUSHIONS ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSED.

AND ANOTHER APPROVED ACTION IS ACCELERATING THE SEALING AND RE STRIPING OF MAJOR EAST WEST ARTERIAL CORRIDORS TO BETTER BALANCE THE NEEDS OF ALL MODES OF TRAVEL. NOW THIS ENTAILS AND YOU'LL HAVE TO.

I ALWAYS LOVE PUTTING STUFF LIKE THIS IN.

SO YOU HAVE TO BEAR WITH US BECAUSE WE ARE BETA TESTING IT WITH YOU GUYS.

SO THIS ENTAILS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE LANE STRIPING AFTER WE'VE REPAVED A ROADWAY.

SO BOOM, REPAVED.

ONCE WE HAVE THIS NEW SURFACE, WE CAN CHANGE THE STRIPING.

YOU CAN SEE IN THIS EXAMPLE THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR SOME OF OUR WIDER STREETS TO NOT ONLY ADD BIKE LANES BUT TO EVEN ADD A BUFFER WHILE STILL GIVING CARS PLENTY OF ROOM.

AS A BONUS, NARROWING THE VEHICLE LANE IS AN EXAMPLE OF SELF ENFORCING WAYS TO REDUCE SPEEDS.

NOW A LOT OF TYPICALLY ROADS ARE BASICALLY 11 FEET WIDE AND YOU COULD REDUCE THEM WRONG BUT TO NINE FEET, RIGHT? PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE ABOUT 12 FEET AND THEY WERE GOING TO BE TYPICALLY REDUCING THEM TO TEN FEET AND PADDING WITH THE EXTRA ROOM TO THE BUFFERED BIKE LANE.

AND AS A BONUS, NARROWING THE VEHICLE LANE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WAY TO BASICALLY REDUCE OUR SPEEDS.

BECAUSE PSYCHOLOGICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THAT NARROWER ROADWAY, YOU'RE GOING TO DRIVE SLOWER.

HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY IN THE FAST LANE? ALL OF A SUDDEN IT GETS REALLY TIGHT AND REALLY NARROW AND YOU NOTICE EVERYBODY SLOWS DOWN? WELL, IT'S AGAIN, IT'S ALL MENTAL, BUT IT'S A GOOD WAY OF DOING IT.

THE NEXT APPROVED ACTION IS RECONFIGURING SOME OF CARLSBAD'S MAJOR ROADS.

NOW, THIS IS A VERY COST EFFECTIVE ACTION TO IMPROVE THE CONDITION OF A ROADWAY FOR ALL.

AND HERE IS THAT EXAMPLE OF HOW RECONFIGURING STREETS COULD WORK.

THIS IS A FOUR LANE ROAD AND WE HAVE MANY OF THESE WIDE ROADS THAT ARE AGAIN AROUND OUR CITY.

BUT IN SOME AREAS WE REALLY CAN REBALANCE THE ROAD FOR ALL USERS BY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LANES, WHICH ALSO RESULTS IN SLOWER VEHICLE SPEEDS.

NOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES WHERE WE'VE DONE THIS ALREADY, AND IN BOTH OF THESE CASES WE HAVE NOT SEEN PROBLEMS WITH VEHICLE CONGESTION AS A RESULT OF REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LANES.

NOW, THE FINAL ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND FUNDED FALL IN THE ENFORCEMENT CATEGORY.

NOW THIS INCLUDES WORK IN ALL DISTRICTS AND SCHOOLS SERVING CARLSBAD.

AND THIS IS TO AGAIN, WE'RE FOCUSING ON IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DOING A SCHOOL E-BIKE CERTIFICATION OR REGISTRATION PROGRAM? AND THERE IS INTEREST JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS, BUT THEN ALSO WORKING WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT TO TALK ABOUT ADVOCACY FOR E-BIKE LICENSING.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS WHEN WE INITIALLY DID THE DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY, THEY WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING DONE FOR LICENSING OF E-BIKE USERS.

NOW, ULTIMATELY, THIS NOW BRINGS US TO THE OPTIONS WHERE CITY COUNCIL WOULD REALLY LIKE THE COMMISSION'S INPUT.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL PUBLIC EDUCATION ACTIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED FROM PAID ADVERTISING TO A PROGRAM TARGETED TARGETING VISITORS FOR CARLSBAD. AND I KNOW WE ALSO GOT A QUESTION ABOUT HOW EXPERIENTIAL ART HELPS WITH TRAFFIC SAFETY, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU.

BUT THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT OUR GOAL WAS TO PROVIDE A WIDE RANGE OF OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL OR ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY UTILIZED IN OTHER AREAS.

WE DO HAVE A ROBUST PUBLIC EDUCATION PROGRAM CURRENTLY UNDERWAY AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMENDING ANY ADDITIONAL EFFORTS AT THAT TIME.

HOWEVER, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE MORE THERE IS OR ARE MORE THAT CAN BE DONE.

AND IF THERE IS THAT DESIRE OR IF YOU BELIEVE THAT MORE SHOULD BE DONE, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU ON THAT.

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WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF GAINING ACCESS TO REAL TIME DATA OVER THE ANNUAL REPORTS THAT WE ALREADY THAT ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE.

AND WE HAVE OUR CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER WITH US TODAY WHO CAN ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE.

WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION OR OPTIONS ABOUT HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALKS ON ALL OF OUR SCHOOL STREETS.

AND THAT WAS ANOTHER OPTION, I BELIEVE, THAT WAS FOUND IN COLUMN B THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

TO EXPEDITE MORE TRAFFIC SAFETY RELATED PROJECTS THE CITY COULD CONSIDER DELAYING PROJECTS WITH OBJECTIVES OTHER THAN PROMOTING MULTIMODAL SAFETY BENEFIT.

ALTERNATIVELY, THE CITY COULD EXPAND THE SIZE OF ITS ENGINEERING STAFF TO INCREASE THE CITY'S CAPACITY TO COMPLETE PROJECTS SOONER.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE NOT PROPOSING THAT IN AT THAT TIME IS THE $2 MILLION THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING INITIALLY IN OUR MENU OF OPTIONS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

THE 2 MILLION WAS FOCUSED ON ONE TIME DOLLARS VERSUS ONGOING REVENUE.

ONGOING IS AND WE FROM A BUDGETARY COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE, WE REALLY WANT TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF OUR ONGOING MONIES BECAUSE IT TRULY IF WE SPEND THOSE DOWN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE MAY NOT HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET.

SO WE REALLY WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT.

BUT IF IT'S YOUR BELIEF THAT ADDING STAFF IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE TAKING BACK TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT . AGAIN, ADDING STAFF, IT JUST POTENTIALLY GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO THOSE PROJECTS SOONER.

NOW, DEVELOPING SCHOOL ACCESS PLANS WOULD FOCUS ON IMPROVING SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY FOR ALL MODES OF TRAVEL ENTERING THE SCHOOLS, INCLUDING THE PICKUP AND DROP OFF PROCESS.

THE NEXT OPTION IS A STRATEGY TO VISUALIZE DATA SO THAT THE CITY COULD ADAPT TO CHANGING CONDITIONS TO SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT, TRAFFIC CALMING, AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS MORE RAPIDLY.

SPEED CUSHIONS AROUND SCHOOLS WOULD COST EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THE SPEED CONCERNS AROUND SCHOOLS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, ANOTHER OPTION IS RELATING TO UPDATING THE CITY'S RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

NOW, WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER REVISIONS TO THE MOBILITY ELEMENT TO EMPHASIZE SLOWER VEHICLE SPEEDS, AS WELL AS INCREASED BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

AND YOU LIKELY NOTICE THAT THE SECOND OPTION SCHOOL BUSSING HAS A VERY LARGE PRICE TAG.

NOW, I'LL JUST PAUSE ON THIS AND SAY THAT THIS THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF BILLS THAT WERE OUT THERE THAT THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE TOOK UP LEGISLATION THE LEGISLATIVE BODY TOOK UP IN THE LAST CYCLE.

BUT IT GOT ME TO THINKING, BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO OTHER AREAS THERE, OTHER AREAS DO HAVE SCHOOL BUSSES.

AND SO I STARTED TALKING TO SUPERINTENDENT CHURCHILL BECAUSE HE ALSO CAME FROM OUT OF THE REGION AND I SAID, DUDE SCHOOL BUSSES LIKE, ISN'T THAT A GOOD IDEA? AND HE'S LIKE, I KNOW I GOT HERE.

I WAS SCRATCHING MY HEAD ABOUT THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WHERE HE WAS FROM, THEY HAVE SCHOOL BUSSES WHERE I'M FROM, THEY HAVE SCHOOL BUSSES.

AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WE COULD REALLY MAKE PHYSICAL MODIFICATIONS SURROUNDING EACH OF THE SCHOOLS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE COULD SPEND $1,000,000,000 TO TRY AND MITIGATE INCREASED TRAFFIC CONDITIONS THAT OCCUR BASICALLY 3 HOURS A DAY.

SO IS THAT A COST EFFECTIVE BENEFIT OR IS THERE SOMETHING OUT THERE LIKE THE POTENTIAL FOR ELECTRIC BIKE OR ELECTRIC BUSSING? SO THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE THE COST OF A REGULAR BUS IS ABOUT $250,000 COST OF AN ELECTRIC BUS IS ABOUT $400,000.

BUT IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR USING THESE ELECTRIC BUSSES DURING THE SCHOOL TIME, SCHOOL DAY AND THEN USING THOSE ELECTRIC BUSSES TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC OR MOBILITY ELEMENTS BASICALLY DURING THE WEEK, MAYBE A PARTNERSHIP THROUGH NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT OPTIONS BECAUSE WE AT THIS POINT THERE AREN'T REALLY BAD OPTIONS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE WE HAVE THE SAFEST ROADS AVAILABLE OR POSSIBLE.

SO AGAIN, THE LAST ENGINEERING SOLUTION IS WHAT WE CALL TRANSFORMATIVE CORRIDORS.

NOW, THIS WOULD BE A LONG TERM PROGRAM TO PROVIDE A BACKBONE NETWORK OF HIGH QUALITY BIKEWAYS, WALKING PATHS AND TRANSIT SERVICES SO THAT CARLSBAD RESIDENTS AND

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UNLIKE THE STRIPING PROJECTS, THIS WOULD INVOLVE CHANGING THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ROADWAY.

NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT, EXPANDING THE USE OF OUR E-CITATION TECHNOLOGY WOULD STREAMLINE THE PROCESS OF ENTERING DATA INTO OUR SYSTEM, SAVING OFFICERS TIME AND MAKING THE DATA MORE AVAILABLE MUCH MORE QUICKLY.

AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO SUGGESTED AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT OFFERS REWARDS WHEN YOUNG ROAD USERS ARE CAUGHT DOING THE RIGHT THING ON THE ROAD. SO SAID ANOTHER WAY YOU OBSERVE POSITIVE BEHAVIOR.

YOU RECOGNIZE OR YOU REWARD THAT POSITIVE BEHAVIOR.

AND ONE FINAL OPTION FOR BRINGING BACK THE CITY'S COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING PROGRAMING, OUR COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING PROGRAM.

THIS APPROACH TO LAW ENFORCEMENT REALLY FOCUSES ON DEVELOPING A STRONGER COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP AND AS WELL AS PROBLEM SOLVING WHAT THE COMMUNITY MAY BE FACING. NOW, THIS APPROACH AGAIN WOULD REQUIRE THE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS BE OR OFFICERS BE ADDED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO AGAIN, IT TAPS INTO THAT ONGOING EXPENSE VERSUS ONE TIME.

SO ONCE AGAIN, WE PROVIDED A MENU OF OPTIONS FOR THIS COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION AND THE ITEMS IN COLUMN A HAVE ALREADY BEEN FUNDED AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

SO TODAY WE REALLY ARE FOCUSED ON THE ACTIONS LISTED IN B AND C, AND WE ORIGINALLY ORGANIZED THE ACTIONS IN THREE GROUPINGS JUST AS A WAY TO SIMPLIFY.

SO AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT TIED TO ONE ANOTHER, THEY'RE INDEPENDENT STANDALONES ON THEIR OWN.

BUT AGAIN, FOR TODAY'S DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS CAN FOCUS ON THE ACTIONS THEMSELVES, THE GROUPINGS, REALLY YOUR PLEASURE.

AND FINALLY, HERE'S A LIST OF THOSE ACTIONS.

AND WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS ORGANIZED BY TIME FRAME.

WE'VE INCLUDED ESTIMATED BUDGETS AS WELL.

NOW, TO ASSIST THE COMMISSION IN YOUR DISCUSSION, STAFF HAVE PROVIDED SOME KIND OF GENERAL OR BASELINE POTENTIAL QUESTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

SO AGAIN, THE CITY COUNCIL IS LOOKING TO YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

DO YOU THINK WE'RE GENERALLY HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? OF THE OPTIONS IN B AND C, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES? OF ALL OF THE QUESTIONS WE WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND THE WHY BEHIND YOUR PREFERENCES.

AND WITH THAT SAID, WE DO.

AS YOU CAN TELL BEHIND ME, WE HAVE OUR INCREDIBLY QUALIFIED AND EXCITED STAFF HERE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND WE'RE PREPARED TO LISTEN TO YOUR FEEDBACK.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. MR. CHADWICK.

ANY QUESTIONS AMONG COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF? COMMISSIONER MEENES.

SCOTT OR MAYBE TOM MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

IN THE PAST I KNOW IN REGARD TO ESTABLISHING SPEED LIMITS ON STREETS, IT'S PRETTY MUCH DICTATED BY THE STATE.

AND AS TO YOUR GUIDELINES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS TO WHAT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE, ETCETERA, ETCETERA, ETCETERA.

SO THE DID YOU SAY? MS. SCOTT.

MAYBE 40 OR 43.

43 I'M SORRY.

SO WITH THAT, COULD YOU EXPAND AS TO HOW THAT LEGISLATION IS POSSIBLY CHANGING HISTORIC WAYS IN WHICH YOU ESTABLISH SPEED LIMITS? YEAH, SURE.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS.

AND FIRST COMPONENT IS ALLOWS THE CITY SOME FLEXIBILITY SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO ESTABLISH THEIR SPEED LIMITS BASED ON THE 85TH PERCENTILE RULE. SO THE FIRST SECTION BASICALLY IS THE CITIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT FIVE MILES PER HOUR.

THE CITIES ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMITS UP TO 20 MILES PER HOUR OR SET BASICALLY WHAT THEY FEEL IS THE CORRECT SPEED LIMIT FOR ROAD SEGMENT. HOWEVER, THEY THE STATE HAS TO DEVELOP AN APPLICATION FOR TRACKING A METHOD WHERE THE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE OFFICERS WOULD BE ISSUING WARNINGS FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

AND THE THAT'S THE TARGET TIME FRAME FOR THAT IS JULY OF 2024.

SO THERE IS GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT OF FLEXIBILITY.

I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH UP OR ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.

SO SPEED LIMIT SIGNS DON'T REALLY REFLECT WHAT A DRIVER IS GOING TO DRIVE ON A ROADWAY.

IF THEY DID, YOU WOULD SEE WE WOULDN'T HAVE SPEEDING, FIRST OF ALL, AND YOU'D SEE PEOPLE GOING 25 MILES PER HOUR OR LESS IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

WHAT PEOPLE DO DRIVE AT IS A SPEED THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE AT DRIVING AT.

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SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR APPROACH IS WE WILL LOOK AT WHERE WE WANT TO LOWER SPEED LIMITS, WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE.

SO AS AN EXAMPLE, ON FAIR DAY NEXT TO VETERANS PARK, THAT'S COMING UP, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO LOWER SPEEDS FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT THERE TODAY.

SO IN ADDITION TO LOWERING THAT SPEED LIMIT, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO PUT IN SOME SPEED CONTROL.

SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] ON CURRENTLY A ROADWAY APPROACHING AVERAGE SPEEDS OF 40 MILES PER HOUR, YOU DON'T REALLY THAT'S NOT A PREFERRED LOCATION FOR A [INAUDIBLE]. YOU WANT A [INAUDIBLE] ON A LOWER SPEED ROADWAY.

SO AGAIN, WE'D LOOK TO PUT PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO LOWER THAT SPEED, THE ACTUAL SPEED THAT DRIVERS ARE TRAVELING AT.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ELABORATE IF YOU HAVE FURTHER.

YEAH, MAYBE YOU CAN EXPAND THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO IS THE STATE THAN NOT REGULATING AS STRICTLY AS THEY HAD IN THE PAST REGARDING WHAT THAT 80 PERCENTILE HAPPENS TO BE? ARE THEY REDUCING THAT OR THEY'RE JUST GIVING THE AUTHORITY TO THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS IN REGARD TO HOW THEY APPLY? WELL, AGAIN, FIRST OFF, IT'S UP TO THE STATE TO DEVELOP THAT APPLICATION.

BUT UNTIL THEN, WE STILL WILL BE HOLDING TO THE 85TH PERCENTILE UNTIL WE DO A NEW SPEED SURVEY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. SINCE THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.

WHAT IMPACT DOES IT HAD SINCE COUNCIL HAS SORT OF MANDATED THE STATE OF EMERGENCY? WHAT IMPACT DOES IT HAS? HAS IT REDUCED DEATHS? HAVE THERE BEEN A REDUCTION OF INCIDENTS? WHAT'S THE IMPACT RIGHT NOW? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

AND YES, WE'RE CAREFULLY TRACKING ALL OF THIS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S TRACKING INFORMATION RELATED TO THE NUMBER OF COLLISIONS, TRACKING INFORMATION RELATED TO THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS WORK, CONTINUING TO COMPILE ALL THAT INFORMATION.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO, IS WE END UP SHARING OR REPORTING THAT INFORMATION OUT.

NOW, I WILL SAY THE IMPACT I THINK HAS BEEN A VISIBLE ONE.

I THINK ANYONE THAT EXPERIENCES CARLSBAD'S ROADWAYS.

ONE THING THAT YOU CERTAINLY SEE IS JUST ABOUT ALL ALL THE CHILDREN THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING E-BIKES ARE NOW ACTUALLY WEARING THEIR HELMETS.

I TYPICALLY ALMOST DAILY WALK THE VILLAGE.

AND BEFORE WE DID THE DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY, I'VE TOLD THE STORY MANY TIMES.

IT USED TO BE THERE WERE THREE, I WOULD SAY HIGH SCHOOL AGE KIDS THAT WOULD RIDE ONE E-BIKE WITH THREE SURFBOARDS AND THEY WOULD RIDE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE IN WHERE THERE WAS THE SHALLOW LANE.

AND YOU THINK LIKE, HOW DO THREE OR THREE ABLE TO DO IT? THESE KIDS WERE BRILLIANT AT TRYING TO, THEY'RE STANDING ON THE BACK FOOT PEG.

ONE HAS ONE BOARD, THE OTHER HAS THE OTHER BOARD.

THE LAST KID IS ACTUALLY STANDING UP ON HIS PEG.

I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE IT WAS BEDLAM.

BUT SINCE WE'VE DONE THAT DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY, I'VE NOT SEEN THOSE KIDS.

NOW, I I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE STILL HERE BECAUSE, AGAIN, FROM A FATALITY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED AN ADDITIONAL FATALITY RELATED TO THOSE TYPE OF COLLISIONS SINCE WE AND WE DID EXPERIENCE THE DEATH OF TWO CYCLISTS. FAIRLY CLOSE, I THINK IT WAS WITHIN EIGHT DAYS.

NOW, HAVE THERE BEEN OTHER DEATHS ON OUR ROADWAYS? YES. BUT AS FAR AS FROM A AN ACTUAL COLLISION OF, THE ANSWER FOR THAT IS CURRENTLY NO.

BUT THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS.

AND THE MORE TIME THAT WE HAVE IN THE EMERGENCY, THE BETTER OUR DATA IS GOING TO BE.

AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO BETTER PREDICT AND HAVE BETTER TREND LINES RELATED TO THE DATA.

SO THAT'S I THINK LONG ANSWER IS STAY TUNED BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO BETTER SHARING OF THE DATA . BECAUSE THE NUMBERS IN THE PACKET FOR THE ENFORCEMENT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE NUMBERS YOU PRESENTED IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 63 DUIS IS DIFFERENT THAN 25 DUIS.

AND ANYWAY, IT'S A IT'S A CONCERN IF WE'RE HAVING AN IMPACT.

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THE SECOND CONCERN IS WITH THE EDUCATION PROGRAM ARE THESE VOLUNTARY EDUCATION PROGRAMS, OR IF THEY GET CITED, DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE THIS CLASS? HOW DOES IT WORK? WELL, AND LET ME GO AHEAD AND I'LL BRING UP OUR POLICE CHIEF MICKEY WILLIAMS, WHO WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR DIVERSION PROGRAM, CHIEF WILLIAMS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MICKEY WILLIAMS, HAVE THE HONOR TO BE THE POLICE CHIEF.

SO OUR DIVERSION PROGRAM WITH RESPECT TO OUR MUNICIPAL CODE AND E-BIKE CITATION SECTION THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED JUST BEFORE SUMMER, IT WENT INTO EFFECT AND WAS ENFORCEABLE.

WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS OUR OFFICERS FIRST OFF, THE MUNICIPAL CODE THAT WAS PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL JUST BEFORE SUMMER.

WHAT IT DOES IS IT MAKES ENFORCING THE LAW WITH RESPECT TO MOBILITY DEVICES MUCH MORE SIMPLE FOR POLICE OFFICERS.

IT BASICALLY REQUIRES THAT THEY BE OPERATED WITH DUE CARE AND THAT THEY FOLLOW THE LAWS OF THE ROADWAY.

SO WHAT THAT IS, IS WHEN AN OFFICER SEES SOMETHING THAT THEY THEY INTUITIVELY CAN SEE, THIS IS NOT A SAFE WAY TO OPERATE THIS MOBILITY DEVICE.

IT ALLOWS THE OFFICER TO INITIATE A STOP AND ISSUE A CITATION FOR THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

AS PART OF THE ROLL OUT OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE WHAT WE ALSO DID IS WE CREATED AN IN-HOUSE DIVERSION PROGRAM THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY THAT IS CITED FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR A VIOLATION OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

IT'S COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY, BUT IT IS OFFERED TO ALL PEOPLE FOR THEIR FIRST OFFENSE AND IT ALLOWS THEM TO TAKE EITHER AN IN-PERSON OR AN ONLINE COURSE TO TEACH THEM BEST PRACTICES AND HOW TO OPERATE THE MOBILITY DEVICES SAFELY.

AND AS A RESULT OF COMPLETING THE DIVERSION PROGRAM, THEIR FINE IS WAIVED.

THEY KNOW THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY THEIR FINE.

SO IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR CHILDREN TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND ALSO END UP AT THE END OF THE PROCESS WALK AWAY WITH MORE INFORMATION ON HOW TO SAFELY OPERATE THEIR MOBILITY DEVICES OR FOR ADULTS THAT WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION OR SIMPLY WOULD LIKE TO AVOID PAYING THE FINE.

UP TILL NOW, WE'VE TAKEN THERE'S ABOUT 75 PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMPLETED THE COURSE.

MANY MORE ARE IN THE STREAM OF BEING OFFERED THE COURSE AND DURING THE WINDOW OF PERIOD WHERE THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR IT IN LIEU OF GOING TO COURT.

THANK YOU. SO ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO.

IN THIS STATE OF EMERGENCY NOW, ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING THIS COURSE ONLY E-BIKE BIKE RIDERS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE CITATIONS HERE.

WOULD THOSE PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, BE REQUIRED TO TAKE THIS TEST, THIS COURSE AS WELL? GREAT QUESTION.

SO THE DIVERSION THAT WE HAVE, THE DIVERSION PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE CREATED, ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE ISSUED A CITATION FOR THE MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION RELATED TO MOBILITY DEVICES AND MANY MORE DEVICES THAN JUST E-BIKES ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE DEFINITION IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF MOBILITY DEVICES.

BUT BUT THE DIVERSION PROGRAM ONLY APPLIES TO THE CITATIONS FOR THAT MUNICIPAL CODE.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN OFFICER ISSUES A CITATION FOR THE VEHICLE CODE SECTION OF RUNNING A STOP SIGN, THAT WOULD NOT BE DIVERTIBLE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DIVERT THE VEHICLE CODE VIOLATION.

HOWEVER, IF THE OFFICER ISSUES THE CITATION FOR THE MUNICIPAL CODE VIOLATION FOR FAILING TO OPERATE WITH DUE CARE, THEN THAT CAN BE DIVERTED.

AND SO OUR OFFICERS, BY AND LARGE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITATIONS RELATED TO MOBILITY DEVICES ARE THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

BECAUSE OF THE SIMPLICITY OF ENFORCEMENT, WHICH PAIRS NICELY WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DIVERSION AND EXTRA EDUCATION.

SO YOU'RE SAYING CARS DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THIS CLASS? THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.

WE DO NOT HAVE A DIVERSION PROGRAM FOR VEHICLES.

WE WE DID RESEARCH WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WE WERE CREATING THIS AND FOUND THAT THERE ARE PROHIBITIONS AGAINST US LOCALLY DIVERTING VEHICLE CODE VIOLATIONS.

THAT'S SEEMS INEQUITABLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THAT.

BUT I FEEL THAT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE BIKES ARE SOMETHING WE WANT TO HAVE ON OUR BE ABLE TO USE OUR STREETS SAFELY.

AND IT'S NOT THE ONLY THING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THESE PIE CHARTS ARE TELLING US THAT 70% OF THE VIOLATIONS ARE CARS AND YET THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE THESE CLASSES THAT HAVE WE'VE SPENT SOME REAL GOOD EFFORT TRYING TO IMPLEMENT HERE.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE EQUITABLE PART OF THIS.

IF I COULD, IT MIGHT HELP.

SO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM THAT ADJUDICATES VEHICLE CODE VIOLATIONS, TRAFFIC COURT, THERE ARE

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SO THE PROHIBITION THAT WE FOUND IS THAT LOCALLY, THROUGH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DIVERT VEHICLE CODE VIOLATIONS, BUT THERE ARE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM FOR THOSE THAT ARE CITED FOR A VEHICLE CODE VIOLATION.

SO I THINK TO SOME, TO SOME EXTENT, YOUR CONCERN IS ADDRESSED THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM AS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY THERE.

MY CONCERN IS WE'RE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW EVERYONE CAN BENEFIT FROM THESE PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING FUNDED AND IMPLEMENTED BY OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT HERE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ALLOW EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.

AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT A TRAFFIC VIOLATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, SO THANK YOU.

MR. STERLING YOU GOT A COMMENT.

YES. VICE CHAIR LAFFERTY, YOUR FIRST QUESTION RAISED SOME POINTS ABOUT THE STATISTICS THAT WERE UTILIZED.

THE AGENDA PACKET INCLUDES AS AN ATTACHMENT THE SEPTEMBER 27TH CITY COUNCIL STAFF REPORT.

SO DATA THAT IS DERIVED IN THAT PACKET IS DATED BY SEPTEMBER 27TH.

SO THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT IS MORE LIVE UP TO DATE DATA.

SO THE PASSAGE OF TIME WILL YIELD DIFFERENT STATISTICS.

I APPRECIATE THAT. COMMISSIONER MERZ.

YEAH, THANK YOU. SO IN OUR PACKET, ONE OF THE LETTERS CAME FROM THE VICE CHAIR, STEVE LINKE, THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION.

JUST ASKING, JUST A GENERAL KIND OF COMMENT.

ONE, IT SEEMS THAT THE POINT WAS THERE'S THE GENERAL PLAN MOBILITY ELEMENT IS SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

THERE'S A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND I THINK IT WAS A CONCERN AS THERE'S SOME OVERLAP OR REDUNDANCY THERE.

AND I'M SORT OF PARAPHRASING WHAT HE SAID, BUT JUST IF YOU COULD KIND OF COMMENT ON THAT, THAT CONCEPT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

IN MY IN THE PRESENTATION, I HAD MENTIONED THAT IT ACTUALLY GIVES US KIND OF A HEAD START IF WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE IN LOOKING AT VISION ZERO, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BASICALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE FINE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, WE CERTAINLY CAN. THERE ISN'T AN EXPECTATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A VISION ZERO PLAN AND THEN A MOBILITY PLAN AND THEN A LIKE THEY CAN COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE ALSO FOLLOWING UP WITH TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY LATER THIS EVENING.

YEAH. THEN ANOTHER FOLLOW TOO.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPEED BUMP AND SPEED CUSHION? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN THAT OVER TO [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH. SO SO SIMPLY A SPEED BUMP IS WHAT YOU EXPERIENCE IN A PARKING LOT AND THEY'RE RATHER SHORT LENGTH AND THEY'RE USUALLY 4 TO 6 INCHES AND THEY USUALLY MAKE IF YOU HIT THEM TOO FAST, YOUR HEAD WILL HIT THE CEILING.

SO THEY'RE VERY ABRUPT.

A SPEED HUMP IS SOMETHING IN A ROADWAY THAT'S LONGER AND IT'S USUALLY ABOUT 3 INCHES, 3 TO 4 INCHES, 4 INCHES WOULD BE VERY HIGH.

AND THEY DESIGN THEM TO BE COMFORTABLE GOING OVER THEM AT A CERTAIN SPEED.

SO SAY 20 MILES PER HOUR WHERE IT REALLY WOULDN'T JOLT YOU.

BUT IF YOU HIT IT AT 35, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A PRETTY GOOD VERTICAL JOLT AND THEN A SPEED CUSHION OR SOMETIMES YOU HEAR PILLOWS.

SO THEY COME UP WITH ALL KINDS OF WORDS.

THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A SPEED HUMP WITH A SLOT IN IT.

AND WHAT THAT ENABLES IS EMERGENCY VEHICLES LIKE FIRE TRUCKS TO BE ABLE TO SADDLE THE SPEED CUSHION OR SPEED WHATEVER WHATEVER TERM IT IS. THE SPEED CUSHION, I THINK, IS THE ONE THAT YOU'RE USING.

AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY DELAY.

ADDITIONALLY, BICYCLISTS CAN THEN USE THAT SPACE AS WELL, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO HIT THAT BUMP.

YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE IMPLEMENT.

YEAH, THAT'S VERY THAT'S INTERESTING.

I LEARNED A LOT TODAY.

SO BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP SO I GREW UP IN BOISE AND THEN THEY CALLED THE NORTH END AND SAID THEY HAVE, I GUESS WE CALL A SPEED BUMP IN A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT EARLY IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, LIKE, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A LANDSCAPING COMPANY WOULD COME DOWN THERE WITH A TRAILER AND THE PEOPLE CLOCK A CLOCK, YOU KNOW, AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PEOPLE NEARBY IT WAS KIND OF A BUMMER.

SO I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT OF THAT.

SO. OKAY, GOOD.

I THINK THAT WAS YEAH, I GUESS THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMMENT SECTION.

BUT YEAH, FROM MY QUESTION, SO WE HAVEN'T GOT INTO DISCUSSIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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I ALSO READ THE STAFF REPORT WITH REGARD TO THE DECLARATION OF LOCAL EMERGENCY INTRIGUES ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT OCCURS TO ME THIS IS KIND OF A SPECIAL TYPE OF EMERGENCY.

IT'S NOT AN EARTHQUAKE, IT'S NOT A TSUNAMI.

IT'S NOT COVID 19.

IT'S A DRAMATIC ACCELERATION OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE ALWAYS HAVE ACCIDENTS.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING, MR. CHADWICK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THE EMERGENCY IS THE VOLUME.

THE NUMBERS HAVE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO IN YOUR YOU'RE SPOT ON, SIR, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TYPICALLY LIKE A TSUNAMI OR A FIRE, A WILDLAND FIRE.

SO THOSE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE TYPICALLY HAVE A START TIME AND AN END TIME.

ONE THING THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED, CERTAINLY WITH COVID IN THAT DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY, WHICH THE GOVERNOR HAS JUST COME OUT AND SAID THAT THAT WILL NOW SUNSET ON FEBRUARY 28TH OF 2023.

BUT YOU REALLY WANT TO DO WHAT WHAT YOU CAN TO PRESERVE THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND SO BASED OFF OF THE NUMBERS, BASED OFF OF THE DATA THAT WE WERE SEEING AND WE WERE TAKING INCREMENTAL STEPS TO TRY TO MITIGATE WHAT WE WERE SEEING ON THE GROUND, THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, IN MARCH, APRIL TIMEFRAME, WE PASSED THAT E-BIKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE BEHAVIOR CONTINUED TO, I THINK, WORSEN.

AND ALSO JUST I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS JUST AS WE'VE CONSTANTLY SAID, THIS ISN'T A FOCUSED ATTENTION ON ONE MODE OF TRAVEL.

THIS IS A FOCUSED ATTENTION ON ALL MODES OF TRAVEL.

I THINK EVERY ONE OF US CAN ATTEST TO DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY AND PEOPLE ARE DRIVING LIKE THEY'VE LOST THEIR MIND.

AND, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SPEEDS WHERE A POSTED SPEED IS 65 AND SOMEONE BLOWS BY YOU AT 85 FLIPPING YOU OFF.

SO THIS IS CARLSBAD.

AND I THINK THAT WE CAN HOLD CARLSBAD TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF EXPECTATION.

AND BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE END OF THE DAY, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU DEPART YOUR HOME, THAT YOU ARRIVE BACK IN A SAFE MANNER.

AND AGAIN, IT IS THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THAT WE'RE BASICALLY CREATING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

NOW, AGAIN, THAT IS, THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT COME INTO PLACE LIKE INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIORS.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK AS YOU'RE SEEING THE STATISTICS POINT OUT, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN, FOR INSTANCE, FROM THE BIKE COALITION THAT THERE WERE WORRIED THAT WE WERE WE WERE GOING TO WE'RE WAGING A WAR ON E-BIKES.

AGAIN, IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

OUR EXPECTATION IS SHARED ROADWAY FOR ALL.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE CONTINUING TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT.

WE'RE MEETING FAIRLY FREQUENTLY WITH BIKE COALITION.

BUT AGAIN, OUR GOAL FOR THIS EMERGENCY IS TO MITIGATE WHAT IS CURRENTLY OCCURRING AND TRULY CHANGE THE BEHAVIORS.

YEAH, THANK YOU. IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW AND YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CITY HAS ALREADY DONE IS INCREASE THE NUMBERS OF PERSONS WHO ARE BIKERS WEARING HELMETS.

AND I PERSONALLY SAW THAT I DID A LITTLE FIELD TRIP OVER TO THE COSTA CANYON HIGH SCHOOL THIS MORNING AT THE START OF SCHOOL.

I WANTED TO SEE IT AT THE PEAK AND I SAW DOZENS AND DOZENS OF YOUNG PEOPLE, STUDENTS ON E-BIKES.

THERE'S EVEN A SECTION IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, I COUNTED THE NUMBER OF STATIONS FOR BIKES OR E-BIKES.

I SAW NO BICYCLES, ALL E-BIKES.

AND FORTUNATELY, TO REINFORCE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT I SAW AND I SAW DOZENS HAD A HELMET ON.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE YOU COULD SAY THAT 18 MONTHS AGO.

NOW THEY'RE DOING IT THAT'S GREAT.

I WANT TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE THE EMERGENCY THAT WE HAD IN PARTICULAR HAVE NOT HAD HAVE OK . IN THE STAFF REPORT IT INDICATES THAT THERE HAS BEEN A 200% INCREASE IN COLLISIONS INVOLVING BIKES AND E-BIKES.

THAT'S A LOT. I THINK IN MY MATH THAT'S LIKE THREE TIMES 200%.

I'D LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT DO WE HAVE ANY SPECIFICS IN TERMS OF LOCATIONS WHERE THIS OCCURS, TIMES OF THE DAY, WHERE THIS OCCURRED. ANYTHING TO GIVE ME MORE OF A SENSE ON.

THE PROBLEM IS IN THESE AREAS AT THESE TIMES PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT SCHOOLS, YOUNG PEOPLE, E-BIKES AROUND SCHOOLS IF WE CAN DRILL DOWN ON THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

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SO WE TRIED TO CAPTURE THAT DATA.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE MORE FREQUENT THE COLLISIONS, THE BRIGHTER THE COLOR.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE REAL HOT SPOTS IN THE AREAS UP ALONG ECR TO THE NORTH OVER BY OCEANSIDE, YOU LOOK ALONG CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AND THEN OF COURSE ALONG PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD.

AND THEN YOU SEE THAT KIND OF COLLISION CORRIDOR ALONG [INAUDIBLE].

SO BUT THEN AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S UNIQUE TO ONE PARTICULAR PART OF THE CITY.

THIS IS OCCURRING IN THE NORTH, IT'S OCCURRING IN THE SOUTH.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE WHEN YOU START SEEING THE DATA AND WE CONTINUED TO WATCH, IT WAS A LITTLE ALARMING AND THAT'S WHERE WE CONTINUE TO TRY AND TAKE ADDITIONAL STEPS.

AND AND FINALLY, IT ULTIMATELY IT WAS WE EXPERIENCED THOSE TWO FATALITIES WITHIN A 12 DAY CYCLE OR AN EIGHT DAY CYCLE AND FELT ENOUGH WAS ENOUGH.

OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S HELPFUL.

AND IN LOOKING THAT, I DON'T SEE ANY CORRELATION ON THE MAP BETWEEN HOTSPOTS AND NECESSARILY SCHOOLS, I'M LOOKING WHERE [INAUDIBLE] CANYON HIGH SCHOOL IS AND THAT DOESN'T SEEMS TO BE A HOTSPOT, HAVE WE? MY QUESTION IS BROADER, IS THAT HAVE WE NOTICED ANY UNUSUAL NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS INVOLVING BICYCLES, PARTICULARLY E-BIKES AT OUR SCHOOLS ON PEAK TIMES GOING AND COMING? HAS THAT BEEN A A SPECIFICALLY CRITICAL PROBLEM FOR US? I BELIEVE OUR CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER IS COMING UP TO TOUCH UPON THAT.

HE'S REALLY DOVE DOWN INTO THE DATA WHICH WE HAVE.

THANK YOU, SIR. INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

HI, DAVID GRAHAM, CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER FOR THE CITY.

SO WHAT YOU SEE UP THERE IS A FIVE YEAR INJURY COLLISION MAP.

AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THE HOTSPOTS ARE IDENTIFIED.

WE DID LOOK AROUND SCHOOL SITES AND THERE WASN'T A SIGNIFICANT ANOMALY.

BUT ALSO WE DID SEE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF NEW BIKES AND E-BIKES INCREASING.

AND SO WE'LL NEED TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME CONTINUING TO TRACK THAT DATA AND I THINK CONTINUE TO BE INFORMED ON ALL OF OUR ENFORCEMENT, EDUCATION AND ENGINEERING ACTIONS BASED UPON THAT. BUT THE SHORT ANSWER, NO DRAMATIC INCREASE THAT WE'VE SEEN THEN IN BICYCLE OR E-BIKE ACCIDENTS AT THE SCHOOLS, CORRECT? THAT'S TO ME, THAT'S PLEASANTLY SURPRISING.

BUT BECAUSE I WOULD EXPECT MAYBE WITH THE ADVENT OF SO MANY E-BIKES NOW, WE WOULD HAVE THAT.

YES, MR. FRANK. THE OTHER THING TO NOTE ON THAT, THOUGH, IS YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT SCHOOL JUST STARTED NOT TOO LONG AGO.

AND SO WE HAVE LAGGING INDICATORS.

SO WHAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SUMMER AND LAST YEAR.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRACKING ON A GO FORWARD BASIS FROM HERE ON OUT, BECAUSE THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE SEE INCREASE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS EMERGENCY ORDER WAS DECLARED RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED OR RIGHT AROUND THAT TIME PERIOD SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE TO CURB THOSE POTENTIAL INCIDENTS.

SO BE PROACTIVE. LET'S NOT WAIT FOR THE ACCIDENTS.

DO WHAT WE CAN TO PREVENT THEM.

SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT CORRELATION LIKE RIGHT AROUND THE SCHOOL.

BUT THEY DO HAVE QUITE A LARGE ENVELOPE WHERE THEY'RE TRAVELING.

AND IN ADDITION, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT TIME FRAMES, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE BEGINNING BELL AND THEN THE END BELL.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT TIME FRAME AND CORRELATION TO THE TO THE SCHOOLS.

OKAY. AND SIR AND FINALLY TO ADD, WE EXPERIENCED AN E-BIKE EXPLOSION AS A RESULT OF COVID.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T SEE THE NUMBER OF E-BIKES BEFORE COVID AND NOW WHEN YOU SEE THE NUMBER OF E-BIKES AFTER COVID AND NOW THAT THE STUDENTS ARE ACTUALLY BACK TO SCHOOL, THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO VERY CLOSELY MONITOR THIS DATA, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE DO EXPECT TO SEE TRENDS HOPEFULLY THEY'RE TRENDS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. GREAT.

YEAH, BECAUSE I SEE THAT TOO.

I LIVE IN THE SOUTHERN END OF THE COSTA VALLEY BIG MASTER COMMUNITY, AND I'VE SEEN IT DRAMATICALLY, DRAMATICALLY.

I DON'T SEE MANY ADOLESCENTS OR TEENAGERS ON REGULAR BICYCLES ANYMORE, BUT I SEE SCORES AND SCORES OF E-BIKES.

SOME OF THEM ARE NOT OPERATING IN A SAFE WAY, UNFORTUNATELY.

COMMISSIONER MEENES, THANK YOU.

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YOU CAN SEE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY IN THE LAST 30 TO 45 DAYS SO MUCH ACTION.

GOING ON REGARD TO STREET PAVING, STRIPING, ETC., ETC., ETC..

SO I COMMEND IN THAT REGARD.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DO LIKE IS THE BALANCED APPROACH, WHICH IS THE EDUCATION, ENGINEERING AND ENFORCEMENT.

I THINK ONE THING THAT WE'LL PROBABLY END UP FINDING IS AS TIME MARCHES ON IN THE NEXT 90 TO 120 DAYS OR WHATEVER, TO SEE IF WE SEE CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.

AND I KNOW WE STILL HAVE B AND C TO CONTEND WITH AS WELL.

SO KUDOS IN THAT REGARD.

GETTING TO THE ENGINEERING ASPECT, BECAUSE WE HAVE EDUCATION, ENGINEERING AND ENFORCEMENT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AS TO THEIR BIKE LANES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE DOING THE BARRIERS MOST OFTEN IN THE AREAS OF THE HILLCREST, NORTH PARK, UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS, ETCETERA, ETCETERA, ETCETERA.

AND IT'S A TWO PRONGED APPROACH BECAUSE YOU HEAR A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS IN REGARD TO HAVING THOSE BARRIERS AND HOW THEY'VE DESIGNED THEM AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO FOURTH AVENUE AND, YOU KNOW, ADAMS AVENUE AND MEAD AND WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

SO I WANTED TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT AS TO THE DESIGN ASPECTS OF DOING THE PAINTED LINES OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, HAVING THAT PAINTED LINE BARRIER AS AND THEN LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXPENSE.

I MEAN, THE CAPITAL OUTLAY MUST BE ASTOUNDING IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT ARE DOING IT.

COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT ON MY QUESTION? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

GREAT QUESTION. AND SO WE THE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

AND YOU TOUCHED ON A FEW, BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT REALLY THE SPECIFICS.

AND AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, WHAT YOU SEE IS THE COLLISIONS OR INCIDENTS, WHATEVER YOU'RE CHOOSING TO CALL THE COLLISIONS, THEY TYPICALLY HAPPEN AT WHAT WE CALL CONFLICT POINTS.

AND THE CONFLICT POINTS ARE AT INTERSECTIONS OR AT DRIVEWAYS.

SO WHILE YOU CAN PUT IN WHAT'S CALLED A QUICK FIX, PROTECTED BIKEWAY, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU MAY SEE DOWN IN SAN DIEGO QUITE A BIT NOW WITH WITH THE PLASTIC [INAUDIBLE] AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES SOME CURBS AT IT AS WELL.

YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE INTERSECTIONS.

SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT, OF COURSE, THE TRAFFIC DATA, THE VOLUMES, THE SPEEDS, THE DIRECTIONS.

IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONTRAFLOW, IF YOU HAVE A PEDESTRIAN DEMAND ADDRESSED LIKE WITH A SIDEWALK OR MAYBE NOT A SIDEWALK, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS USING THAT BIKE SPACE.

AND A LOT OF THOSE PEDESTRIANS YOU'LL SEE ACTUALLY ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, THEY THEY'RE TRAVELING CONTRA OR ON THE OTHER DIRECTION.

SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE FACTORS.

SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE IS WE'VE PUT IN BUFFERED BIKE LANES.

SO IT PROVIDES THE SEPARATION FOR THE BICYCLISTS AWAY FROM THE HIGH SPEED VEHICLES.

BUT WE'RE REALLY TAKING THE TIME TO FOCUS ON WHAT'S THE RIGHT SOLUTION, WHAT'S THE CORRECT DESIGN FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL STREET, WHICH WE'RE DOING, WHICH WE'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO. AND YOU'LL NOTICE A LOT OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS INCLUDE THE TERM COMPLETE STREETS.

SO WE'RE ADDRESSING ALL THE MODES OF TRAVEL DURING OUR DESIGN PROCESS.

SO LOOKING AT THAT, HAVE YOU RESEARCHED OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE NATION POSSIBLY AS TO IF THEY'VE IMPLEMENTED THE VARIOUS APPROACHES AND THE PROS AND THE CONS THAT OTHERS HAVE EXPERIENCED TO THE DATE? AND IS THAT WHAT'S DRIVING YOUR DECISION AS TO HOW YOU'RE DESIGNING AT THIS POINT IN TIME? YES. YES, I HAVE.

I ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE SUBJECT VERY CLOSELY.

SO ANY STUDY WHICH I GET PRIVY TO, I DO READ AND IT'S AN EXTREMELY INTERESTING TOPIC FOR ME.

SO I'M I'M YEAH, I'M VERY AWARE OF THE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AND THE STATISTICS AND SOME OF THEIR RECENT IMPROVEMENTS.

I THINK WELL, WE'RE WE'RE TRACKING AND THERE HASN'T BEEN AN AFTER STUDY ON SOME OF THE RECENT IMPROVEMENTS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE BE LOOKING AT WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT.

AND THAT'S WHY, AS I MENTIONED, OUR APPROACH IS TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE FEEL ARE FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVES AND THEN GET OTHER SUBJECT MATTERS, THE ACTUAL USERS OF THE ROADWAY TO COMMENT ON THEM BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY ARE USING ALL OF OUR ROAD SEGMENTS ON A DAILY BASIS AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEN LOOK AT THE PROS AND CONS COSTS, TIME OF IMPLEMENTATION, ALL THOSE FACTORS, AND THEN PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO OUR CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR ULTIMATE

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AND YES, I AM AWARE OF THE STUDIES, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY THAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO READ OR OUR TEAM TO READ, PLEASE FORWARD THEM TO US.

THAT'S GOOD CLARITY.

SO WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE BARRIER CONCEPT? ANY COMMENT AT ALL, OR IS IT TOO EARLY IN THE PROCESS? NO IT'S IMPLEMENTATION.

OH, SORRY, SIR. YEAH.

SO THE BARRIER ISSUE, WHEN IF YOU HAVE A HIGH SPEED ROADWAY AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE A REALLY SAFE PLACE FOR LOWER SPEED, MAYBE INEXPERIENCED BICYCLISTS TO RIDE, IT IS GOOD TO PROVIDE THAT PROTECTIVE BARRIER.

AND SO WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING, LIKE ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A SEPARATED PATHWAY WITH A HARDENED BARRIER.

AND OF COURSE, WHERE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WE WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE.

SO WE PUT IN SOME LANDSCAPING, IT COULD BE LIKE COBBLES AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, LIKE LOW LANDSCAPING.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.

IT'S CALLED A CLASS ONE BIKE FACILITY.

WE WOULD ALSO CONSIDER CLASS FOUR, AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE DIFFERENCE A CLASS ONE YOU HAVE BIKE TRAVEL OR PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL BIKE ONE OR EXCUSE ME, A CLASS ONE IS ACTUALLY A PATHWAY THAT BOTH BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS CAN USE.

AND TYPICALLY YOU'D LIKE TO SEE SLOWER SPEEDS ON THAT TYPE OF A PATHWAY.

SO WITH A CLASS ONE, YOU CAN HAVE DIRECTION IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AND YOU TYPICALLY WILL HAVE LIKE A YELLOW CENTER LINE WITH A WITH A CLASS FOUR. THAT'S A CALTRANS DESIGNATION THAT'S TYPICALLY A PROTECTED BIKEWAY ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD GOING IN ONE DIRECTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL LIKELY SEE DOWN IN SAN DIEGO AND MOST LOCATIONS.

SAN DIEGO DOES HAVE BOTH CLASS ONE AND CLASS FOUR.

SO WHAT WE'RE HESITANT TO DO IS WHAT THEY CALL A QUICK BUILD WITHOUT CONSIDERING ALL OF THE CONSIDERATIONS I MENTIONED.

AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED WITH IS WHAT YOU DO AT THE END POINTS, THE TRANSITIONS TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND WHAT HAPPENS AT THE INTERSECTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL WE WANT TO TRANSITION TO DISCUSSION AMONG COMMISSIONERS IN JUST A MINUTE.

BUT IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

SO UNDER THE ENGINEERING PORTION, WE TALK ABOUT HOW THE STAFF REPORT TALKS ABOUT HOW BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS HAVE EQUAL ACCESS.

MY CONCERN AND I LIVE JUST DOWN THE STREET HERE, OUR KIDS LEARN HOW TO RIDE BIKES ON THE RAIL TRAIL.

AND WHAT MY CONCERN IS THAT THE INCREASE OF BICYCLE USE IN GENERAL HAS HAPPENED, WHICH IS A REALLY POSITIVE THING SINCE LOTS OF OUR AREAS ARE SORT OF FLAT BUT NOT COMPLETELY FLAT.

HOW DO WE AS A COMMUNITY TRY TO HELP OUR BICYCLISTS ACTUALLY NOT BE ON ARTERIAL ROADS? BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE, IS OUR OUR CURRENT DEVELOPMENT IS VERY PUSH PUSHES EVERYONE TO ARTERIALS, ALL MODES OF TRANSIT.

ARE THERE ALTERNATES TO THAT AND ARE ALTERNATES BEING CONSIDERED? YES, THERE ARE ALTERNATES TO THAT.

WE DO HAVE AN EXTENSIVE TRAIL SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND I DON'T SEE MR. LANCASTER HERE, BUT WE DO HAVE AN ALTERNATE TRAIL SYSTEM.

IN ADDITION, WITH OUR TRANSFORMATIVE CORRIDORS, WE WILL BE LOOKING TO PROVIDE A SAFE, SEPARATED PATHWAY ALONG A LOT OF OUR TRANSFORMATIVE CORRIDORS.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT, IT'S REALLY OUR ARTERIAL NETWORK, IF YOU LOOK AT AND THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, IT'S PRETTY MUCH IDENTICAL.

SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MONITORING FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT MODES ON OUR ARTERIALS AND SPECIFICALLY IN THE HIGH USE AREAS FOR OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USERS.

SO THAT CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND THEN LA COSTA AVENUE AND SOME OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE HIGH BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN USE.

AND LA COSTA AVENUE I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH DEMAND ON ALL MODES LA COSTA AVENUE RECEIVES.

IT'S LIKE 50,000 PLUS FOR VEHICLES, WHICH IS SUPER HIGH.

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SO I WAS LIKE, WHOA, THAT'S A HEAVILY USED ROADWAY AND IT'S FAST.

AND THEN BICYCLES LIKE WEEKDAY BICYCLISTS, LIKE 500 BIKES RIDE ON THAT AND THAT'S A FAST ROADWAY.

SO ON THAT PARTICULAR ROADWAY, WE'RE A TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT WOULD CONSIST OF LOOKING AT A SEPARATED CLASS ONE FACILITY ALONG THE LAGOON. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, WILL BE THEY'LL BE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, BUT THAT DEFINITELY WILL BE ONE OF THEM.

AND THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS CONSTRUCTION OF THAT MANNER.

IT ONE TAKES TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

BUT TWO, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

SO THOSE ARE TWO BIG HURDLES FOR US TO ADDRESS.

BUT WE ARE WE ARE DEVELOPING A MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE, WHICH WILL HELP WITH THAT ISSUE.

AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT THAT TOUCHED ON YOUR QUESTION OR ANSWERED IT, IT'S IT'S HELPFUL, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST ALSO COUPLE OF YEARS IS THE ABANDONMENT OF THE BURYING OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WHICH COULD ALLOW ADDITIONAL MOVEMENT TO THE BEACH IF THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BURY THAT RAILROAD TRACK.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, RIGHT NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN FRONT OF THE JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY, WHERE A LOT OF BICYCLISTS ARE, YOU KNOW, GETTING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL, THEY'VE CLOSED OFF CAROL PLACE AND FOR A DEVELOPMENT THERE AND WHICH LEAVES THE SOUTH END OF THE BARRIO WITH ONE MODE TO ACCESS OR GET OUT YOU KNOW AND THE IDEA THAT YOU KNOW THE SCHOOLS WE DON'T HAVE THE INCIDENTS AROUND THE SCHOOLS.

THE SCHOOLS HAVE 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMITS AROUND THE SCHOOLS.

SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IF THEY'RE GOING BY A SCHOOL, PRETTY MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO BE SLOWER.

BUT OTHER THESE OTHER ARTERIALS ARE NOT AN OPTION FOR THESE YOUNGER KIDS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET TO THEIR SCHOOLS.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WEIGH THAT I MEAN, EVEN THE SIDEWALK THAT KEEPS BEING TALKED ABOUT BETWEEN VALLEY AND MAGNOLIA AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE HIGH SCHOOL HASN'T HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, SO SO I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THE KIDS AND WHERE THEY NEED TO GO, WHICH IS TO SCHOOL AND BACK.

SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT WAY TO DO THAT.

AND I THINK THE EDUCATION PROGRAM IS REALLY VALUABLE.

BUT I THINK.

THAT'S A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU. YEAH, WELL, AND JUST TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON SOMETHING COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY MENTIONED IN TERMS OF SAFETY ISSUES ON ARTERIALS, MR. FRANK, YOU MENTIONED COSTA AVENUE.

I DRIVE AND BIKE LACOSTE AVENUE, BUT I WILL NOT BIKE IT EXCEPT ON A SUNDAY MORNING EARLY WHEN TRAFFIC IS MINIMAL.

IT'S THAT SCARY.

SO AND BUT I SEE TONS OF BICYCLES, TONS OF TRAFFIC AND SOME HEAVILY USED AND YES, WHATEVER THE CITY CAN DO, MAYBE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TERM AND SOME MONEY. THAT IS AN AREA WHICH IS FRAUGHT WITH WITH SOME HAZARDS.

I CAN TESTIFY THAT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THAT IS A REAL DIFFICULT AREA.

WOULD YOU MIND GETTING THE HOT SPOT SLIDE UP ON THE SCREEN AGAIN? I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND ADDRESS SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT ISSUE.

OKAY FROM WHAT I SEE THERE, THE BIGGEST HOTSPOT IN THE CITY IS IN THE VILLAGE.

THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE AREA BETWEEN THE FREEWAY AND CARLSBAD DRIVE.

SORRY, BOULEVARD. EXCUSE ME.

AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? WE HAVE MORE ACCIDENTS THERE BECAUSE THE CIRCLE IS MUCH BIGGER THERE THAN ANY PLACE ELSE.

RIGHT. THAT'S ACCURATE.

OK, CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME, OR DO WE HAVE ANY SPECIAL PROGRAMS FOR THE VILLAGE IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE SEEING A VERY INORDINATE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS IN THAT AREA, HEAVILY TRAVELED AREA? DO WE HAVE ANY SPECIAL PROGRAMS WITHIN ANY OF THE OPTIONS THAT ARE GEARED SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM? YES, SIR, WE DO.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW, ACTUALLY.

SO IN THE VILLAGE AREA, STARTING OFF WITH CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF INCIDENCE.

AND WHAT WE HAVE IN THAT AREA IS IT'S RATHER SPACE CONSTRAINED OR FAIRLY NARROW, CURVED CURB WIDTH.

BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE'RE UNDER ARTERIAL RECONFIGURATIONS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVERAL OPTIONS.

ONE OF THEM BEING TAKING SOME OF THE SPACE FROM THE EXISTING MEDIANS AND NARROWING THEM UP AND PUTTING IN THE APPROPRIATE LANE WIDTHS AND THEN GIVING THAT EXTRA SPACE TO THE BIKE LANES SO THAT THE BIKE LANES WILL BE WIDER.

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AND IN ADDITION, WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS MR. CHADWICK MENTIONED, OUR LEAD PEDESTRIAN PHASE IMPROVEMENTS ON SIGNALS THAT DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE THEM IN THE VILLAGE AREA. SO THAT'S JUST A FEW.

IN ADDITION, WE HAVE THE GRAND PAVILION AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT ALSO AS A PART OF THE SEALING AND RE STRIPING EFFORT AND OUR ARTERIAL RECONFIGURATIONS FOR THE GRAND PROMENADE PROJECT, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A LANE REDUCTION ALONG THAT, ALONG GRAND AS A PHASE A TO ACTUALLY HELP WITH MANAGE SPEED AND THEN PROVIDE MORE ROOM FOR THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USERS AND IMPROVE LINE OF SIGHT AND PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL AS WELL.

SO THAT'S JUST A FEW.

BUT I COULD ACTUALLY GO DOWN A LIST.

SO IN TERMS OF TIME FRAME, HOW SOON ARE WE GOING TO BE SEEING SOME OF THOSE CHANGES PUT INTO EFFECT? SOME, SUCH AS THE LEAD PEDESTRIAN PHASE WOULD BE WITHIN SIX MONTHS THE RECONFIGURING THE ARTERIAL OR CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE, THAT WOULD BE WITHIN 12 MONTHS.

AND THE SAME GOES FOR GRAND.

AND WE ALREADY ALSO DID THE APPLICATION OF HIGH VISIBILITY GREEN PAINT AT THE KIND OF POTENTIAL FOR COLLISION AREAS AT THE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS ALONG CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AS WELL AS ALONG CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.

SO SOME WE'VE DONE AND SOME ARE IN THE WORKS SHORT TERM, AND SOME OF THEM IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF A LONG TERM, RIGHT? YEAH, WITHIN A YEAR. AND ALSO, AS MR. CHADWICK MENTIONED, WE HAVE MESSAGE FEED BACK SIGNS OUT THERE AS WELL.

OKAY. I'M GLAD BECAUSE I LOOK AT THAT AND THAT'S GLARING RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S JUST SHINING HOT SPOT.

AND I'M LOOKING AT THE SECOND AND THIRD.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A PRETTY CLOSE BETWEEN NORTHERN EL CAMINO REAL, NEAR 78.

THAT'S A HOT SPOT.

BUT ALSO PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, A RIGHT AROUND THE COSTCO AREA, THE FREEWAY AREA.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY PARTICULAR PROGRAMS FOR THOSE TWO AREAS, PLEASE? SURE. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING IN THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE ALREADY BROUGHT IT TO OUR TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION, OUR LOCAL ROAD SAFETY PLAN.

AND IN THAT IT ADDRESSES THIS HEAT MAP AND HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THE COLLISIONS WHICH WE'RE SEEING AS A RESULT OF THE HEAT MAP.

BUT WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS THE TWO THAT YOU MENTIONED OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE AREA, THOSE ARE NEAR INTERCHANGES AND REALLY BUSY INTERCHANGES.

SO A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS INCIDENTS REGARDING LIKE REAR ENDING AND VEHICLE COLLISIONS.

AND SO WE HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WILL BE MAKING TO OUR SIGNALS.

THAT'S ONE WAY WE'LL BE ADDRESSING IT.

IN ADDITION, I KNOW CALTRANS IS WORKING ON AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE ON RAMP, WHICH IS GOING WESTBOUND ON PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, WHICH WOULD BE THE ONRAMP FOR THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION OF I-5.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER.

IMPROVEMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS PLAN FOR THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD AREA AT MARONE AND UP IN THE NORTHERN PART BY THE 78. AGAIN, WE HAVE SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED AND WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE AS WELL.

THOSE WOULD INCLUDE SOME WOULD BE BICYCLE ACCIDENTS, SOME JUST MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS, SOME WITH PEDESTRIANS.

IS IT A COMBINATION? IS IT A BROAD CATEGORY? IT'S A COMBINATION, ACTUALLY.

AND THOSE ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS IS A LOT OF VEHICLE INCIDENTS.

OK JUST VEHICLE TO VEHICLE NOT INVOLVING BIKES AT ALL.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY AREA THAT YOU'VE NOTICED OR STAFF HAS NOTICED A PARTICULARLY SENSITIVITY FOR BICYCLE OR E-BIKE ACCIDENTS? UM, IS MR. GRAHAM STILL HERE? IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S FINE.

I'M JUST. I MIGHT NEED TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE.

MR. GRAHAM HAS SOME INFORMATION ON MR. GRAHAM. CERTAINLY.

SO CAN YOU REPHRASE THE QUESTION FOR ME? YES, CERTAINLY.

LOOK AT THESE HOT SPOTS.

ARE THERE ANY IN PARTICULAR THAT ARE WE'VE SEEN A PARTICULARLY HIGH NUMBER OF E-BIKE OR BICYCLE RELATED ACCIDENTS INVOLVING INJURIES? CERTAINLY.

SO THOSE HOTSPOTS BASICALLY CORRELATE WITH ALL VEHICLES, WHICH WOULD ALSO INCLUDE BICYCLES AND E-BIKES.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT ONE PARTICULAR CONCENTRATION ARE GOING TO BE MORE BIKES THAN E-BIKES VERSUS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE HOT SPOTS.

I WILL SAY THAT AS YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN THIS, THE VILLAGE WAS AN AREA CERTAINLY THAT IS OF CONCERN FOR BOTH BIKES AND E-BIKES.

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SO WHERE THERE'S A BIKE LANE COMING INTO A TURN POCKET AND A VEHICLE IS VIOLATING THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE CYCLIST WHO HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE SEE THAT AS A PRETTY COMMON VEHICLE VERSUS BIKE COLLISION THAT OCCURS.

AND THESE ARE THE TYPES OF DATA THAT WE'RE DRILLING INTO FURTHER, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO A NUMBER OF THE TREATMENTS AND ENGINEERING DECISIONS THAT YOU HEARD FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO IMPROVE IN ADDITION TO THE GREEN PAINT THAT HAS ALSO BEEN IDENTIFIED.

GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OK COMMISSIONER MEENES, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE BEFORE WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC INPUT? YEAH, REAL QUICK.

I KNOW IN THE MASTER PLAN, THE VILLAGE MASTER PLAN THERE IS THE PROMENADE AND GRAND AVENUE PROMENADE.

AND I KNOW THAT WAS A PRIORITY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF PEDESTRIANS SLASH BICYCLE TRAFFIC GOING EAST AND WEST.

AND WE WERE LEAVING LLOOKING AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF BEING ABLE TO GO UNDER THE I-5 OR IN FAR, FAR INTO THE FUTURE TYPE THING.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AND THE PROMENADE WITH GRAND.

BUT THE EMPHASIS WITHIN THE VILLAGE PLAN IS FOR THE PROMENADE, FOR BICYCLES.

ARE YOU LOOKING AT POSSIBLY IN CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE, HAVING THE SAME HIGH PRIORITY FROM THE STANDPOINT? I KNOW PART OF THE VILLAGE PLAN WAS TO DIRECT PEOPLE WANTING TO USE BICYCLES ON GRAND AND NOT NECESSARILY ON CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE, BUT YET WITH WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A PERIOD OF TIME SINCE THE MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED, THE EMPHASIS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

SO IS THAT CHANGED OR NOT CHANGED AT ALL? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, SIR.

AND SO THE ANSWER WOULD REALLY BE BOTH.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS FROM INCIDENTS THAT THERE ARE INCIDENTS ALONG CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE.

SO WE DO WANT TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE DO.

THERE IS THE CAPITAL PROJECT FOR THE PROMENADE ON GRAND AVENUE, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, THAT THAT HAS BEEN ACCELERATED.

SO THE THOUGHT IS, IS ONCE YOU BUILD A COMFORTABLE, USABLE INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE'S LATENT DEMAND AND THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FIND IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT.

SO I WOULD THINK I KNOW IF I WAS TRAVELING THROUGH THAT AREA AND I HAVE OLDER CHILDREN NOW, BUT IF I HAD YOUNGER CHILDREN, I WOULD WANT TO GET OFF CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO I WOULD TAKE IF I WAS GOING WESTBOUND, I WOULD TAKE THE FIRST RIGHT TO GET TO GRAND AVENUE AND ENJOY THAT PROMENADE AT A MUCH SAFER, SLOWER SPEED.

BUT YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, IT'S ACTUALLY WE'RE ADDRESSING BOTH AS A HIGH PRIORITY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

QUESTION [INAUDIBLE].

SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE NOTICED IS PLACEMENT OF THESE MESSAGE BOARDS AND FEEDBACK SIGNS.

IS THERE PROOF THESE ARE HELPING AND ARE SAFE? LIKE, WHAT'S THE DATA? YEAH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BRING UP OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT DIRECTOR, MS. TINA RAE. TINA.

THANK YOU. HELLO.

I'LL LET OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND THE PLACEMENT ISSUE.

BUT IN TERMS OF.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, HOW DO WE KNOW IF THOSE MESSAGE BOARDS ARE WORKING? WE GOT THAT QUESTION FROM ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.

AND I THINK THE BEST ANSWER IS IT'S NOT BEING DONE IN ISOLATION.

SO IT IS HARD TO SAY.

IS IT THE MESSAGE BOARD? IS IT THE ARTICLE IN THE PAPER? IS IT THE SOCIAL MEDIA? IS THAT THE FACT SOMEONE JUST GOT A TICKET? RIGHT. SO WHAT'S CHANGED IN THE BEHAVIOR? BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS PROMPTING PEOPLE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET A BEHAVIOR CHANGE, WHICH IS BASICALLY A WAY OF JUST REMINDING PEOPLE IS EFFECTIVE.

AND THE SHORT MESSAGES THAT ARE VERY DIRECT ALSO ARE EFFECTIVE.

SO I'D SAY IT'S BASED ON BEST PRACTICES AND NOT REALLY SOMETHING WE CAN MEASURE IN ISOLATION.

AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE PLACEMENT PLACEMENT.

YES. [INAUDIBLE].

SOUTHBOUND, JUST AS SOON AS YOU GET ON THE 101 DOWN TO [INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW, WHEN IT OPENS UP, THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL BIG SIGN RIGHT THERE BLOCKING THAT VIEW. YOU KNOW WHO PUTS THOSE THERE? RIGHT. SO. SO THAT WAS MY TEAM.

SO WE PUT THOSE THERE AND WE HATE THE BLOCK THAT VIEW, BECAUSE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE DIAMOND AND CARLSBAD.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PLACEMENT MORE OR LESS CORRELATES TO THE HOTSPOTS ON THAT MAP.

SO IN THAT LOCATION, IT'S APPROACHING PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, WHICH IS ONE OF THE HOTSPOTS, AND THERE IS VERY HIGH BIKE USE ALONG CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.

SO ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT NOT SEE LIKE A HOTSPOT DOWN BY PONTO OR SOMETHING, THERE IS HIGH BIKE USE.

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THANK YOU. SEEING NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

I WILL OPEN IT FOR PUBLIC INPUT.

MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS? SIR, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY.

ALL RIGHT, SEEING.

NO, WE HAVE NO SPEAKER SLIPS.

WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO COMMISSIONER DISCUSSIONS AND FEEDBACK TO STAFF.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO GET US STARTED? COMMISSIONER MEENES, YOU WANT TO GET STARTED AT THE END AND WE'LL JUST KIND OF GO DOWN THE LINE WITH OUR THOUGHTS AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION FROM STAFF.

I THINK I'M GOING TO WAIT FOR THIS MOMENT, COME BACK TO ME.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER SABELLICO, YOU WANT TO GET STARTED? SURE, SURE.

I MEAN, IF WE CAN PULL UP THE LAST SLIDE THERE THAT HAS THE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.

I'D APPRECIATE IT. GREAT.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND FOR ANSWERING ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD THAT THE CITY MADE THIS DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY.

IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE TAKING OUR RESIDENTS SAFETY VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

I THINK IT SAYS SO IN THE STATE CONSTITUTION AND THE GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS THAT I'M NOT REMEMBERING THE CITATIONS FOR, BUT IT SAYS IT.

AND SECONDLY, I'M HAPPY WITH THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

I THINK IT PROVIDES THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF FLEXIBILITY TO REALLY GET GET THIS RIGHT AND ALSO ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF TAXPAYERS.

SO IS THIS GENERALLY HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? YES, I THINK SO.

MY HIGHEST PRIORITIES ARE WELL, THEY WOULD BE THE OPTIONS, THE ENGINEERING OPTIONS LISTED IN B AND C, PARTICULARLY THOSE HIGHLIGHTED BY THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BICYCLE COALITION.

THEY SENT US A LETTER, I THINK IT WAS DATED THIS MORNING.

SO I WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF ONES FROM THERE.

I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF EMBRACING THE QUICK BUILD PHILOSOPHY.

I MEAN, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW TIME AND RESOURCE INTENSIVE IT WOULD BE TO BUILD A CLASS ONE BIKEWAY ALONG LA COSTA AVENUE.

AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT.

AND I ACTUALLY WAS JUST DRIVING HERE ON THE LA COSTA AVENUE AND ADMITTEDLY FOLLOWING THE CAR A LITTLE TOO CLOSELY IN FRONT OF ME.

AND LIKE I SAW A BIKER, YOU KNOW, LATER THAN I SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT.

SO I TOTALLY I MEAN, IT IS NOT THE SAFEST ROAD FOR BIKERS OR FOR CARS.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT.

BUT USING QUICK BUILDS WHERE WE CAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TAXPAYERS.

IT GETS US. THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, SO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THINGS, DOING THINGS AND THE QUICKEST WAY POSSIBLE TO AVOID TRAGIC INCIDENCES AND GET TO VISION ZERO AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO THE TWO OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE EMBRACED VISION ZERO, SAN DIEGO AND THIS, THEY HAVE ADOPTED QUICK BILLS AND THEY HAVE PASSED RESOLUTIONS THAT SAY THAT THEY SUPPORT QUICK BUILD.

SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO THE SAME.

THE BICYCLE COALITION LISTED A NUMBER OF OTHER ENGINEERING ENGINEERING OPTIONS THAT THEY SUPPORTED IT, AND I SUPPORT ALL OF THEM.

BUT THEY DID HAVE A NOTE HERE ABOUT THE SCHOOL BUSSING AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF OPTION C, 44 MILLION OUT OF THE 48 MILLION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PRICE TAG HAS FOR OPTIONS C? THAT'S TOWARDS BUSSING.

AND AND I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY THERE YET.

I MEAN, I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF SCHOOL BUSSING, BUT I THINK IT REQUIRES A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE FROM THE FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FOR US TO REALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

CALIFORNIA HAS ONLY 9% OF ITS STUDENTS TAKE THE BUS TO SCHOOL, WHICH IS THE LOWEST OF ANY 50 STATES IN THE COUNTRY.

IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM AND ONE WE NEED TO ADDRESS, BUT I DON'T THINK CARLSBAD CAN ADDRESS IT ALONE.

SO I THINK THAT NEEDS FURTHER STUDY.

BUT ALL OF THE OTHER ENGINEERING OPTIONS IT MENTIONS, I SUPPORT OFFICIALLY ADOPTING AND RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY BE PART OF THE THE FINAL PLAN THAT THEY ADOPT.

AS FAR AS SO THEY DID SAY THAT OF THE THREE E'S, ENGINEERING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

I JUST FRANKLY, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT THIS AND THAT.

OH, IT'S PEOPLE LOOKING AT THEIR PHONES OR PEOPLE DRIVING TOO FAST.

AND AND REALLY, I THINK THAT PART OF VISION ZERO REQUIRES US TO INTERNALIZE AND BUILD OUR ROADWAYS

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AND SO HUMANS ARE NOT GOING TO DRIVE ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF THE ROAD 100% OF THE TIME.

NONE OF US DO.

AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THE ROADS SAFE SO THAT WHEN THOSE ERRORS OCCUR, THEY'RE NOT TRAGIC.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THE EMPHASIS ON THE ENGINEERING ASPECTS, AND THE ENGINEERING OPTIONS SHOULD TAKE PRIORITY, AND I HOPE THAT THEY DO.

AS FAR AS THE THE ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT, I'M GLAD TO SEE ALL THE ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED AND FUNDED AND APPROVED.

IT'S GREAT. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT.

AS FAR AS THE ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS THAT ARE IN OPTIONS B AND C, I DON'T THINK THOSE WOULD BE MAXIMALLY BENEFICIAL FOR USE OF CITY RESOURCES.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE NOT RECOMMEND THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMMARIZES WHERE I'M FEELING ABOUT THESE OPTIONS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER MERZ. YES, THANK YOU. I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT OUT OF THE PRESENTATION, I REALLY VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

MR. CHADWICK, YOUR COMMENT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TRADE OFF BETWEEN SCHOOL BUSSES AND CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.

AND I JUST I REALLY STRONGLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT THOUGHT PROCESS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE LIVE IN THE VERY, VERY SOUTH EDGE OF DISTRICT FOUR.

OUR KIDS TOOK THE BUS TO OAK CREST IN THERE.

ALTHOUGH WE LIVE IN CARLSBAD, WE'RE IN THE SAN DIEGO UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT I JUST APPRECIATE JUST A RECOGNITION THAT THAT JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT CONCEPT, BECAUSE WHAT I FOUND IS, YOU KNOW, AND THE PREVIOUS ONE ABOUT THE STRAWBERRY FIELDS AND KIND OF MY FRUSTRATION COMES OUT OFTENTIMES GOVERNMENT POLICY LAGS CHANGES IN MARKET AND PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR.

SO I JUST I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES.

I APPRECIATE YOUR CONVERSATION ON THAT.

YOU KNOW FOR AN EXAMPLE, ONE OF THEM WOULD BE IS SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN DECEMBER I'LL BE ABLE TO SAY I HAVE A 22, 23 AND 24 YEAR OLD KID, RIGHT? AND SO THE BUSING WAS KIND OF INTERESTING TO ME.

YOU KNOW, WHERE WE LIVE, OUR KIDS ACTUALLY PAID TO TO TO RIDE THE SCHOOL BUS AS AN OPTION.

AND I THINK THERE'S AN OPTION TO KEEP THAT COST DOWN FOR FOLKS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T.

BUT I THINK THING THAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT COMMENT WAS IS THAT LIKE YOU SAID, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS TO STREETS ARE SUPER EXPENSIVE, WHEREAS FOR EXAMPLE, BUSSES, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COST TO DOING THAT, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE BRICKS, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF DOING THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE JUST THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

THE OTHER THING I FOR EXAMPLE, GOING BACK TO MY KIDS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM LIVES UP IN LOS ANGELES, WORKS REMOTELY AND DOESN'T OWN A CAR.

AND SO, AGAIN, THAT SORT OF SHOWS THE CHANGING OF BEHAVIORS.

AND OUR OTHER OUR YOUNGEST RIDES HIS BIKE TO AND FROM WORK AND HE CHOSE THE JOB CLOSE BECAUSE HE DOESN'T OWN A CAR.

SO, AGAIN, THOSE ARE CHANGES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN BEHAVIOR WITH THE YOUNGER GENERATION.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE, TOO, IS THAT OUR CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER IS HERE TODAY BECAUSE AGAIN, AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, BECAUSE I THINK IT DEMONSTRATES CARLSBAD'S FORWARD THINKING IN HOW THESE BEHAVIORS CHANGE.

SO I THINK I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE, I THINK YOU ALL ARE DOING A LOT OF THE RIGHT THINGS.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INTEGRATED APPROACH OF HAVING A COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR HERE, OUR CHIEF INFORMATION ONE THERE, AND JUST THE THOUGHT OF DOING THOSE THINGS.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH ON THAT.

LASTLY, I THINK ON A PERSONAL NOTE, TOO, WE TALKED ABOUT THE DIVERSIONARY PROGRAM.

ONCE IN GRADUATE SCHOOL I RODE MY BIKE TO SCHOOL, I GOT BUSTED WHEN I WAS GOING TO ARIZONA STATE AND I WENT TO THE DIVERSIONARY PROGRAM I FOUND VERY HELPFUL.

I REALLY DID. I LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS.

SO I THINK SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE TRAFFIC FINE AT COLLEGE.

I DID. I ACTUALLY PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED A DIVERSIONARY PROGRAM AND ALSO I'VE BEEN TO TRAFFIC SCHOOL, DO THE SAME THING AND FOUND ACTUALLY BE VERY HELPFUL.

SO AND THEN I GUESS IT'S WHEN WE DIDN'T REALLY DO EX PARTE.

BUT MY WIFE IS ACROSS GUARD TO EL CAMINO CREEK, SO WE'RE A VERY THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART.

SO I THINK IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU'RE ALL DOING I LIKE THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

I REALLY LIKE THE INTEGRATED APPROACH IN YOUR WAY OF DOING THINGS.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, THIS IS A FUN TOPIC.

I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER SABELLICO CONVERSATION ON BUSING.

AND IT GOES TO JUSTINE'S COMMENT ON THE SAFETY AROUND SCHOOLS TO.

AND I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT MY PTA DAYS LET ME KNOW BECAUSE IN SEPTEMBER THEY HAD A WALK TO SCHOOL DAY.

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BUT THE LIABILITY FOR SCHOOLS, FOR WALKERS AND BIKES IS ACTUALLY MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND THIS WAS WHY THE PRINCIPALS WERE SO VERY NERVOUS ABOUT THIS, WAS WE WOULD HAVE WE WANTED TO PROMOTE A WALK TO SCHOOL DAY, EXCEPT THE SCHOOL IS LIABLE FOR THE KIDS FROM THEIR DOORSTEP TO THE DOORSTEP OF THE SCHOOL.

SO THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE LAWS HAVE CHANGED.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING HAS BECOME BETTER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS WE HAVE A 25 MILE AN HOUR AROUND THE SCHOOLS, BUT MAYBE CERTAIN CERTAIN ONES OF THOSE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS WANT TO BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ROUTES.

AND IF WE WANT TO ALLOW OUR KIDS TO GET TO SCHOOL IN A SAFER MANNER, I THINK THERE'S A WAY THAT WITHOUT HAVING BUSSES TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THE WALKABILITY AND BIKE ABILITY OF OUR SCHOOL POINT SCHOOL ACCESS, SO AND TO GO TO THE SCHOOL BUSSING. CALIFORNIA IS STILL ONE OF THE LOWEST FUNDED STATES IN THE COUNTRY FOR EDUCATION.

SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING I THINK THAT THERE'S PLACES WHERE IT'S REALLY GOOD.

I THINK OUR SCHOOL SITES CAN'T ACCOMMODATE BECAUSE THEY'RE GROWING OR PARTS OF THEM ARE GROWING.

THEY CAN NEVER ACCOMMODATE THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT ACTUALLY GET DRIVEN THERE.

EVEN THE POOR STAFF SOMETIMES DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES.

SO YOU KNOW, OUR SCHOOL SITES ARE SMALL, SO ALLOWING OTHER ALTERNATES IS IMPORTANT AROUND OUR SCHOOLS.

I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY KEY THING.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE EDUCATION IS, EVEN THOUGH I'D LIKE TO SAY IT'S THE ENGINEERING ASPECT, I THINK THE EDUCATION ASPECT IS SOMETHING THAT IS SO INCREDIBLY VALUABLE.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M CONCERNED THAT I UNDERSTAND THE KIDS WHO GET CITED ARE TAKING THESE CLASSES.

BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT.

WE WANT TO HELP ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN, YOU KNOW, THIS SORT OF NEW WAY OF MAYBE GETTING AROUND.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS THE THE YOUNG ONES ARE EMBRACING IT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE THAT ARE FINDING THIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO JUST ENJOY OUR CITY MORE.

WE HAVE THIS GREAT PLACE YEAR ROUND.

WE DON'T HAVE SNOW.

WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE THESE TYPES OF PROBLEMS THAT MAKE BIKE USE INSURMOUNTABLE FOR MOST OF THE YEARS.

SO WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO HELP EDUCATE OUR POPULATION TO NOT ONLY JUST THE BIKERS, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ALSO RUN INTO ISSUES.

AND YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT, I THINK IT'S A BROAD PROGRAM.

AND I HOPE THAT THE EDUCATION COMPONENT CAN CONTINUE TO EXPAND.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE QUESTIONS.

ADDING SIDEWALKS IS ALSO REALLY GOOD.

I THINK THAT THE DIAGRAM YOU HAD THAT WAS SORT OF GRADING THE RE STRIPING THE STREET.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AND I THINK COMMISSIONER MEENES MENTIONED IT IN SAN DIEGO, THEY ACTUALLY GROUPED THE BIKES AND THE PEDESTRIANS TOGETHER AND HAVE THE PARKING CARS AND THE LANE FOR THE TRAFFIC GOING.

SO THE CARS ARE TOGETHER AND THE BIKES AND THE PEDESTRIANS ARE TOGETHER.

AND THAT'S TO ME, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THOSE MAJOR CORRIDOR AREAS WHERE MAYBE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY'RE NOT RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE THEY'RE PARKING OVERNIGHT, BUT THEY'RE MORE BUSINESSES GOING IN AND OUT.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF TRY IT IN CERTAIN AREAS OF ARE MORE COMMERCIAL PARTS OF A CITY TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THAT PEDESTRIAN BIKE GROUPING AND THEN HAVE THE PARKING CARS ON THE THE DRIVE AISLES.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK IN SAN DIEGO, IT HAS SLOWED AND HELPED TO CURB SOME OF THOSE RIGHT HAND TURN COLLISIONS THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE ONE OF THE BIGGEST THE ONE CHART I SAW WAS KIND OF DISTURBING ABOUT HOW MANY RIGHT HAND COLLISIONS THERE ARE.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO JUST BRING UP, SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE.

IN THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE 23RD OF OCTOBER, TALKED ABOUT THE ORCHIDS AND ONIONS.

AND AT THE VERY BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER THERE IS THE BEACH OCEAN BEACH ROUNDABOUT THAT GOT AN ONION.

AND IT GOT AN ONION BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THAT AREA.

BUT ALSO THEY THEY PARTS OF IT BECAME FENCED OFF AND PARTS OF IT BECAUSE PEDESTRIANS WERE KIND OF CROSSING ALL OVER THE PLACE, YOU KNOW, AND AND SO THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I WANT TO PUT INTO THE RECORD AS PLEASE, LET'S TRY TO AVOID THIS.

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THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD DESIGN.

I STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE STATISTICS ON HOW PEOPLE ARE USING IT, BECAUSE WHEN WE GO BY THERE ON THE WEEKEND, IT'S STILL A STRUGGLE, I THINK.

AND MAYBE IT'S JUST THE NEWNESS OF NORTH COUNTY HAVING THIS TYPE OF CONFIGURATION.

BUT I THINK IT'S A YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S SORT OF HIGHLIGHTS THAT BEAUTIFUL INTERSECTION OF WHEN WE'RE CROSSING OVER TO THE LAGOON.

AND I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS ABOUT THIS.

THE ONES THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AROUND KELLY SCHOOL ARE NOT LIKE THAT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN.

SO WE HAVE THIS SORT OF DISPARITY THAT I'D LIKE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE HOW WE DESIGN TO HELP NOT ONLY THE SAFETY BUT THE ESTHETIC OF OUR REALLY GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

FOR CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL, BECAUSE TO ME, THAT KIND OF RAISED A RED FLAG THAT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE PUBLIC ENTITY LAW TO ME.

SO I DID A QUICK CHECK.

AND SCHOOLS ARE NOT LIABLE FOR CHILDREN ON THEIR WAY TO SCHOOL.

THEY'RE LIABLE IF A CHILD LEAVES SCHOOL EARLY AND THEY SHOULD BE UNDER SUPERVISION.

AND THEY DIDN'T LET THE PARENT KNOW.

AND THEY'RE ALSO LIABLE FOR SCHOOL SPONSORED EVENTS.

SO IT COULD BE THAT THERE WAS A NUANCE THERE, WHICH WAS IF WE SPONSOR A WALK YOUR CHILD TO SCHOOL DAY, THEN THEY BECOME LIABLE BECAUSE IT COULD BE CONSTRUED AS A SCHOOL SPONSORED EVENT.

BUT AS A GENERAL RULE, THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAFETY OF A CHILD WALKING TO SCHOOL.

THAT'S HELPFUL. AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO KNOW.

YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, IT WAS IT WAS DISAPPOINTING THAT WE COULDN'T HAVE A WALK TO SCHOOL DAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S HOW A LOT OF THE KIDS GOT TO SCHOOL.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S THE SIDEWALK THING WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY WALK, WHERE THE KIDS GET TOGETHER AND THEY WALK IN GROUPS OR THEY BIKE IN GROUPS OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO YOU WANT TO HAVE THESE SORT OF AMPLE SPACES FOR THEM.

AND YEAH, WE DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH OUR SECURITY AND OUR SAFETY AS FAR AS EMERGENCY VEHICLES OR EVEN JUST ACCESS.

BUT I THINK THE BIG THING IS WE ALSO WANT THE KIDS TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THAT LITTLE BIT OF INDEPENDENCE THAT I THINK A LOT OF OUR YOU KNOW, ALL OF US WHO'VE HAD KIDS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KNOW THAT THEY SORT OF ARE ASKING FOR.

SO THANKS.

[INAUDIBLE] JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT, TOO.

SO PART OF THE PRESENTATION DID COME OUT WAS IS THAT YOU'RE INCREASING THE CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM.

[INAUDIBLE] SO LIKE I SAID, MY WIFE WORKS AT THE CORNER OF [INAUDIBLE].

SO THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S A PRETTY ACTIVE PROGRAM HAVING ACTUALLY, I THINK, AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU ARE INCREASING THAT TOO.

SO. YEAH. SO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOING DOWN THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU FOR OUR DISCUSSION IN THAT ORDER IS KIND OF A FOCUS OF OUR WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT . FIRST BEFORE DOING THAT, I WANT TO THANK YOU MR. CHADWICK, SPECIFICALLY FOR BEING HERE.

I THINK IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN YOU AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

DON'T BE A STRANGER, OKAY? WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING. I THINK IT'S AN INDICATION OF HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE CITY.

WE THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE AND ALL THE STAFF THAT'S COME HERE AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE THAT'S COME HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO BE HERE.

IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS, NUMBER ONE IS, ARE WE GENERALLY HEADED IN A GOOD DIRECTION? I WOULD SAY ABSOLUTELY.

YES. I WOULD GIVE THAT A FOUR STARS, FOUR OUT OF FIVE MAYBE.

WE'VE SEEN IT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.

ONE SPECIFIC AREA WE'RE SEEING KIDS, YOUNG PEOPLE, ADOLESCENTS, TEENAGERS WHO ARE ON E-BIKES.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, IF I WAS THAT AGE AGAIN AND THERE WERE E-BIKES, I'D PROBABLY BE RUNNING AN E-BIKE.

THEY LOOK LIKE FUN THINGS TO BE ON.

WE'RE SEEING THEM WITH HELMETS NOW, AND THAT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE.

AND I THINK THE CITY'S EFFORTS HAVE CERTAINLY PAID OFF IN THAT RESPECT.

WHEN I SAW EVERY SINGLE E-BIKER DOZENS OF THEM I SAW AT LA COSTA CANYON HIGH SCHOOL THIS MORNING, AND I DIDN'T SEE A ONE WITHOUT A HELMET.

THAT'S PROGRESS. THAT'S.

WE'RE DOING SOMETHING.

ANOTHER THING I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY COMMEND STAFF FOR.

PROBABLY BECAUSE I'M A LAWYER BY TRAINING, BUT THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE, THE ORDINANCE ON REGULATED MOBILITY DEVICES.

EXCELLENT. THAT GIVES US ANOTHER TOOL.

IT'S OUR ONLY TOOL.

NOW WE HAVE VEHICLE CODE, STATE LAW, AND A PROCESS FOR ENFORCEMENT THROUGH THAT.

BUT THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL TOOL, AND WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THAT THROUGH PROGRAMS SO THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED, YOU KNOW, PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL.

YOU'RE REALLY NOT INTERESTED IN FINDING THEM, BUT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING THEIR ATTENTION AND EDUCATING THEM.

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SO I COMMEND THE CITY AND I COMMEND COUNCIL FOR GOING FORWARD ON THAT.

SO THOSE ARE JUST TWO INCIDENCES WHERE I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN A GOOD DIRECTION.

SO I SAY DEFINITELY THERE ON QUESTION ONE, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITY? WHAT WOULD BE YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES BE AND WHY? WELL, I GO BACK TO THE HOTSPOTS.

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A DATA DRIVEN APPROACH, NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE IN THOSE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST COLLISIONS.

THAT'S THE REASON I WAS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO I SAY LET'S FOCUS NOT EXCLUSIVELY ON THOSE AREAS, BUT WE HAVE A CRISIS.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE AN INCREASED NUMBER AND DRAMATICALLY INCREASED NUMBER OF COLLISIONS IN THOSE AREAS.

SO WHAT WOULD I DO? I WOULD FOCUS ON THE VILLAGE, GET THOSE PROGRAMS GOING, BOTH STRUCTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL IN THE VILLAGE, ASAP.

THE TWO OTHER HOTSPOTS, SECOND AND THIRD, WE'RE KIND OF A TIE.

THE ONE WAS ON EL CAMINO REAL NEAR 78 AGAIN, HIGH TRAFFIC AREA.

THE OTHER ONE WAS ON PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD NEAR THE COSTCO AREA, NEAR THE NEAR THE ONRAMP TO I-5.

THOSE THREE AREAS AND THERE WERE MORE, I NOTICED.

ONE WAS AN AREA THAT I GO THROUGH ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I LIVE CLOSE TO THAT.

THAT'S COSTA AVENUE AND EL CAMINO, A VERY HIGH TRAFFIC AREA.

SO IN TERMS OF MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE START FROM THERE, START FROM THOSE HOTSPOTS AND SAY THIS IS REASON WHY WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN COLLISIONS, PARTICULARLY AND PARTICULARLY BICYCLES AND E-BIKES IN THOSE AREAS.

SO WE GO FROM THERE.

WE USE THE DATA AS OUR GUIDE AND WE DESIGN PROGRAMS THAT ADDRESS THAT TO GET THOSE NUMBERS DOWN.

NOW, IN THE IDEAL WORLD, WE GET A VISION ZERO.

WE WOULD HAVE NONE.

THAT'S SOMETHING TO SHOOT FOR.

IS THAT THE REALITY? PROBABLY NOT.

BUT IT GIVES US A GOAL, A TARGET TO GO FOR.

BUT I WOULD AGAIN USE THOSE HOTSPOTS AS A GUIDE.

WHAT SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AND WHY? I THINK THE BUSSING ISSUE WAS INORDINATELY EXPENSIVE.

I THINK THAT'S PRIMARILY A FUNCTION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND I SAY THAT I'M A FORMER TRUSTEE OF THE SAN DIEGO UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NOW, BUT THEY DID HAVE A BUSING PROGRAM THEN.

IT WAS OPTIONAL.

MOST OF THE STUDENTS DID NOT TAKE THAT AND IT WAS COSTLY.

THE PARENTS HAD TO PAY FOR THE BUSSES AND I DON'T SEE AS MANY BUSSES NOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN ABANDONED.

I WOULD THINK THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE FOR DISABLED KIDS, PROBABLY SPECIAL BUSSES, MAYBE SMALLER BUSSES.

I DON'T SEE A LOT OF BUSSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I LIVE NOW, SO I'M NOT SURE OF THE STATUS.

BUT FOR THE CITY TO SPEND $44 MILLION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE COST INEFFECTIVE.

SO I WOULD NOT I WOULD QUITE FRANKLY DISCARD THAT OPTION OUT OF HAND, JUST COST PROHIBITIVE.

THAT DWARFS THE EXPENSES OF ANY OF THE OTHER OPTIONS.

SO I WOULD TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE AND FOCUS ON OUR OTHER OPTIONS.

AGAIN, USING THE HOTSPOTS AS A AREA FOR FOCUSING OUR ATTENTION.

NOW, IN TERMS OF THE THREE LEGS OF THE STOOL, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK ALL THREE LEGS ARE IMPORTANT.

YOU TAKE OUT ONE AND THE STOOL FALLS DOWN.

I THINK THE THREE E'S, WE HAVE TO GO ON EACH OF THOSE AREAS.

BUT I DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT WITH MY COLLEAGUE, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.

I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENT IS NECESSARILY THE MOST IMPORTANT, AND I KIND OF THINK THIS IS A POOPER PROBLEM AS MUCH AS IT IS A STRUCTURAL PROBLEM. SO THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND THAT REALLY DOVETAILS WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT.

OUR ENFORCEMENT LEADS TO EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, LEADS TO EDUCATION.

YOU GO THROUGH SPECIAL COSTS.

SO I THINK THOSE PEOPLE COMPONENTS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT.

YES, WE WANT TO CHANGE THE STRUCTURE THAT WE CAN, BUT IT'S PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING THE CARS.

IT'S PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING THE E-BIKES, WHO ARE RIDING THE E-BIKES AND RIDING THE THE THE BICYCLES.

AND ON THE E-BIKES IT'S A LOT OF YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUNGER PEOPLE, THEIR BRAINS ARE NOT FULLY DEVELOPED THE SCIENCE WILL TELL YOU THAT.

AND THEY'RE MORE AT RISK.

THEIR JUDGMENT IS NOT WHAT IT WILL BE WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR THIRTIES AND FORTIES.

THAT'S JUST BIOLOGY AND PHYSIOLOGY.

SO SO THAT'S AN ISSUE.

SO THAT PEOPLE ISSUE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE E-BIKES, IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED ON AND THAT'S MY REASONS.

AND FINALLY, WHAT ELSE WERE THE COMMISSION LIKE--LET ME GO BACK TO THIS E-BIKE THING WITH WITH YOUNG PEOPLE, A LITTLE STORY.

[01:50:03]

IT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE STUDENTS GO ACROSS THE STREET TO.

THERE'S MISSION ESTANCIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND BEHIND THAT THERE IS LA COSTA CANYON HIGH SCHOOL MISSION.

[INAUDIBLE] WAS CLOSED TODAY.

THEY'RE ON BREAK. AS I WAS AT THAT INTERSECTION AND WAITING FOR MY TURN TO CROSS, CARS WERE STOPPED.

AND THEN THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN THERE WHO WAS GOING BASICALLY KIND OF GOING TOWARD ENCINITAS ON HIS E-BIKE, WAITING THERE FOR THE LIGHT TO CHANGE.

HAD A HELMET ON, THANKFULLY.

AND I SAY WHAT WOULD BE A YOUNG PERSON OBVIOUSLY GOING TO SCHOOL DOING AT THAT TIME? TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AT THAT TIME.

AND WHAT HE TOLD ME AND I SAW OTHER BIKERS THE SAME THING GOING TO MCDANIEL MIDDLE SCHOOL.

MCDANIEL MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ABOUT FOUR MILES AWAY.

THAT WOULD INVOLVE YOUNG PEOPLE MOST PROBABLY GETTING ON TO EL CAMINO REAL AND ENCINITAS WITH ALL THE HEAVY TRAFFIC, PERHAPS SOME OF THEM TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT TURN OFF OF [INAUDIBLE] ROAD ONTO EL CAMINO.

THAT SCARES THE BEJESUS OUT OF ME.

I THINK.

SO. WHAT ELSE WOULD THE CITY COUNCIL DO? I THINK FOCUS WITH THE SCHOOLS, COLLABORATION WITH THE SCHOOLS ON THE E-BIKE ISSUE.

WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

KIDS ARE WEARING HELMETS NOW, BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE PART.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE PROGRAMS AND COLLABORATION THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, GET THE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH E-BIKES OFF THE MAIN ARTERIES, PARTICULARLY DURING PEAK USE TIMES.

THAT'S FRAUGHT WITH DANGER.

THAT'S JUST A RECIPE FOR AN ACCIDENT.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

ONE IDEA MIGHT BE TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS WE HAVE HERE ABOUT PERHAPS SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM.

SAN DIEGO, FOR EXAMPLE, I READ ABOUT IT THIS MORNING, HAS A PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS WHO DRIVE AUTOMOBILES AND USE THE PARKING LOT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ALL THEIR SCHOOLS.

THEY HAVE TO GO TO A SPECIAL PROGRAM TO GET A PARKING STICKER FOR THE YEAR.

THEY AND THEIR PARENTS HAVE TO GO TO A TWO HOUR PROGRAM WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EXPLAIN SOME OF THE HAZARDS OF DRIVING A VEHICLE TO AND FROM SCHOOL.

MAYBE WE OUGHT TO EXPAND THAT.

MAYBE [INAUDIBLE].

SO MANY OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE USING E-BIKES TODAY.

MAYBE WE OUGHT TO EXPAND THAT FOR STUDENTS.

AND I SAW DOZENS AND DOZENS OF THEM AT COSTA CANYON HIGH WHO WRITE E-BIKES TO SCHOOL.

PERHAPS THERE SHOULD BE A PROGRAM IF YOU'RE GOING TO PARK IN ONE OF OUR PARK.

THEY'RE NOT SPACES, BUT ONE OF OUR PARKING AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THE STRUCTURES WHERE YOU CAN LOCK YOUR BIKE.

PERHAPS YOU SHOULD GO THROUGH A PROGRAM WHERE WE EDUCATE YOU ON THE HAZARDS AND THE SAFETY FEATURES INVOLVED IN USING AND DRIVING OR RIDING AN E-BIKE, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAINLY A LOT OF THEM, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF THEM.

SO SOMETHING THAT WOULD ADDRESS KEEP THE E-BIKE, PARTICULARLY THE YOUNG PEOPLE OFF THE MAIN HIGHWAYS WITH E-BIKES AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO SCHOOL, MAKE THEM AWARE, MORE AWARE OF THE HAZARDS AND GOING TO AND FROM AT CRUNCH TIME THEY'RE FOCUSED ON GETTING TO SCHOOL AND GETTING TO CLASS.

AND THERE ARE TONS OF CARS AND TONS OF PEOPLE.

SO THOSE WOULD BE MY ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER MEENES.

THANK YOU. YES, AND I THINK YOU ALL HAVE TOUCHED ON A NUMBER OF GOOD POINTS HERE IN GENERAL, GOOD DIRECTION.

ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN SO FAR HAS BEEN EXCELLENT.

I REALLY, AGAIN, LIKE THE BALANCED APPROACH THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE EDUCATION, ENGINEERING AND ENFORCEMENT.

BUT HIGHEST PRIORITY, I WOULD SAY, OBVIOUSLY OUT OF THOSE THE BALANCED APPROACH, I THINK ENGINEERING AND WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION NOW.

BUT I THINK THE ENGINEERING ASPECT IS IS VERY, VERY, VERY CRITICAL.

AND COMPLETE THE VISION ZERO PLAN IS ALSO A HIGH PRIORITY, IS TO COMPLETE THAT AS WELL AS MOVING ON TO THE WHY SHOULD YOU NOT WHAT SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AND WHY.

AGAIN, GETTING BACK INTO THE BUSSING ASPECT OF IT, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT RESPONSIBILITY IS REALLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND, YOU KNOW, THE EXPENSE INVOLVED, THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT THEY'RE FUNDING ASPECTS OF WHERE THEY RECEIVE THEIR MONIES TO TO PURCHASE BUSSES TO OPERATE THE BUSSES ALL COME FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

YES, THE CITY COULD VERY EASILY ENCOURAGE.

BUT AS TO GIVING DIRECTION, I REALLY THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED.

BUT I THINK THE ISSUES AND THE AVENUES THAT WE'RE TAKING RIGHT NOW FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT ARE SPOT ON.

AND SO I WOULD SAY NOT CONSIDER THE BUSSING ASPECT OF IT, WHICH I THINK ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ADDRESSED.

[01:55:05]

AND I THINK THAT IF WE LOOK AT WHAT OPTIONS ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO CARLSBAD AS WELL AS MAYBE JUST SAN DIEGO COUNTY, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT ON MORE OF A FAST TRACK.

AND FROM A LEGISLATIVE STANDPOINT, WHAT CAN WE DO TALKING TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES IN SACRAMENTO TO BE ABLE TO MOVE AT A GOOD PACE, MAYBE SOME LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HELP CITIES BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT'S NECESSARY IN REGARD TO THIS SAFETY ISSUE.

AND THEN CONTINUE ON WITH, AS WE'VE TALKED BEFORE, REGARDING GATHERING INFORMATION FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ACTUALLY IS WORKING IN OTHER CITIES, WHAT'S ACTUALLY WORKING HERE SO FAR? WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT SIX MONTHS.

WE'LL LOOK AT 12 MONTHS, 18 MONTHS, AND THEN MAYBE MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF IS WE HAVE A BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DECENT RESERVE, BUT YET AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND MINDFUL THAT WE JUST DON'T THROW MONEY AT SOME SOLUTIONS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO DO AND CONVEY THAT ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. IF I COULD [INAUDIBLE] JUST [INAUDIBLE] IN TERMS OF PROGRAMS WITH OTHER CITIES THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION, THAT IN THE COALITION'S LETTER TO US AND I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EXCELLENT LETTER WITH SOME IDEAS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

THERE IS A REFERENCE TO A PROGRAM APPARENTLY, THAT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN THE CITY OF CARMEL, NOT CALIFORNIA, BUT INDIANA.

AND I WONDER IF STAFF HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT.

AND IF NOT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING THE ARGUMENT IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, SIMILAR AT THE CITY, AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME PROGRAMS THAT'S DRAMATICALLY CUT DOWN THE SERIOUS INJURIES.

[INAUDIBLE] HAS STAFF TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT PROGRAM YET.

THANK YOU, CHAIR. I HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT THAT PARTICULAR STUDY, BUT I'M AWARE OF THAT, THAT CITY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING.

SO I WILL LOOK AT THAT.

GOOD. YES. THANK YOU.

I'M IN FAVOR OF COPYING SOMETHING THAT WORKS, PARTICULARLY IF IT'S APPLES TO APPLES, IT'S SOMETHING SIMILAR.

SO, MR. CHADWICK, ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF DIRECTION OR CLARITY THAT YOU'D LIKE TO GET? MY APOLOGIES. I THINK THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WHAT COUNCIL WAS LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO TO RECEIVE SPECIFICALLY YOUR INPUT. AND SO I THINK EACH OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE DONE THAT.

YOU'VE SHARED THE INFORMATION.

I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE HOW YOU'VE GONE ABOUT THIS.

SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING, THOUGH, THAT YOU FEEL THAT THIS COMMISSION COULD UNIFORMLY SUPPORT ANY TIME THAT WE CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT BASICALLY WHERE THE BODY UNIFORMLY SUPPORTS IT, THAT ALSO IS GREATLY APPRECIATED BY STAFF.

OK AMONG MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

IS THERE UNANIMITY IN ANY PARTICULAR AREA? I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE DISAGREE THAT MUCH ON THINGS, AND MAYBE WE HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PRIORITIES ON A FEW ITEMS. COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MOTION JUST YET, BUT I WANT TO THROW AN IDEA OUT THERE TO GET GET A MOTION EVENTUALLY.

I THINK IF WE COULD MAKE SOME SORT OF MOTION THAT SAYS WE WANT TO INCORPORATE THE ENGINEERING OPTIONS INCLUDED IN B AND C, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BUSING, THAT WOULD GET US MOST OF THE WAY THERE.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER MERZ, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

I MEAN, DO WE NEED A MOTION? I WAS LOOKING AT THE OBJECTIVES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

I THOUGHT. I MEAN, IS IT NECESSARY TO GO THAT ROUTE OR [INAUDIBLE]? AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY.

AGAIN, IF CONSENSUS CAN BE REACHED, THEN THAT'S GREAT.

LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IT SEEMED LIKE CONSENSUS WAS REACHED ON NOT BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THE BUSING OPTION AT THIS TIME.

SO THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT AS WELL AS IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HEADED IN A GOOD DIRECTION.

SO AGAIN, THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.

BUT THAT SAID, WE ALSO HAVE THAT INFORMATION CONTAINED IN EACH OF YOUR INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS, WHICH WE CAN ALSO FEED BACK TO COUNCIL AS WELL.

IS THERE ANY FEELINGS ABOUT THE COMMENTS THAT I HAD ABOUT USING THOSE HOT SPOTS AS KIND OF A TEMPLATE FOR OUR ACTIONS?

[02:00:04]

ANY FURTHER, COMMISSIONER, THOUGHTS ON THAT? YOU AGREE WITH THAT? DISAGREE WITH THAT? I'M SEEING SOME THUMBS UP.

I AGREE. COMMISSIONER MEENES.

YEAH, I AGREE.

BUT YET AT THE SAME TIME, I NOTICE ON THAT HOTSPOT DIAGRAM, THE EXAMPLE OF LA COSTA AVENUE, FOR EXAMPLE, ISN'T REALLY A HOTSPOT.

AND YET I TRAVEL IT EVERY DAY MYSELF.

AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GOING 50 MILES AN HOUR AND YOU SEE THE THE BICYCLISTS ON THAT PARTICULAR STREET, I AM SURPRISED THAT IT'S NOT A HOTSPOT. BUT YET MAYBE PEOPLE ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE OF THE SPEED THEY GO, I HAVE NO IDEA.

I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT SO YES, I WOULD AGREE 100% ON THE HOTSPOTS.

BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT I THINK YOU'VE IDENTIFIED WITH IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT NEED TO BE ATTENTION, AND THAT'S ONE OF THEM, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

AND COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THE THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF SHOULD PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THOSE HOT SPOTS WHERE THEY HAD HIGH INCIDENCE OF ACCIDENTS? THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.

OKAY. BUT THE BUT THERE'S A CAVEAT TO SAY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO KNOW THE IMPROVEMENTS, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A PUBLIC WORKS PRESENTATION ABOUT THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

SO THE KNOW COULD BE, YES, IF SOME OF THESE PUBLIC WORKS THINGS THAT ARE IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THESE VERY ISSUES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO SO, YES, I MEAN, THE VILLAGE IS A REALLY BIG CONCERN.

I WOULD YOU KNOW, I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY THAT.

BUT I ALSO FEEL THE COSTA AND I MEAN EL CAMINO, ALL THESE PLACES.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT TURN ON A BICYCLE ON EL CAMINO.

I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NO WAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, AS A BIKE OR EVEN A MOPED OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST TRYING TO GET ACROSS ALL THOSE LANES OF TRAFFIC IS TOO DIFFICULT.

SO I DON'T SEE IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL LOCATION PROBLEM BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, EVEN WITH THE SCHOOL BUSSING OPPORTUNITY, IS TO ALLOW KIDS ALTERNATE MEANS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS SCHOOL.

SO THAT SPECIAL EVENT OF WALKING TO SCHOOL DAY, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BECOMES AN ENCOURAGEMENT OF OUR CITY TO BE ABLE TO HELP ENCOURAGE THAT, WHICH COULD LEAD TO THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE KIDS DON'T HAVE TO TAKE BUSSES, IF THAT'S YOU KNOW I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS ECONOMICAL, TOO.

CORRECT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL SCHOOL SITES CAN'T PARK ALL THOSE CARS, BUT WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE? WALKING AND BIKING.

SO HOW DO WE MAKE THAT FEASIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE? SO THE HOTSPOTS ARE, I THINK, A CONCERN.

CAN I INTERJECT JUST A LITTLE [INAUDIBLE] I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY WITH THE CITY MANAGER WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION HE'S LOOKING FOR.

YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH LISTS OF SPECIFIC PROJECTS, AND I THINK THE CITY MANAGER CAN PROBABLY CONFIRM THAT HE DOESN'T WANT YOU TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS AND TAKE A VOTE ON THERE.

BUT I THINK HE IS LOOKING FOR AT LEAST SOME AFFIRMATION THAT THE CITY IS HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THE LIST OF THINGS THAT ARE ON THE SECTIONS B AND C.

AND I THINK AS I'VE LISTENED TO YOU FOR THE LAST HALF HOUR, THERE'S PRETTY MUCH A CONSENSUS ACROSS THE BOARD, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CITY BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST OF BUSSING. SO I GUESS MAYBE IN ONE WAY I COULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER IF JUST A MOTION SAYING WE FEEL THAT THE CITY IS HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT SUPPORT THE CITY PARTICIPATING IN THE COST OF THE BUSSING.

AND THEN THEY CAN.

THEY'VE BEEN TAKING NOTES.

I'VE BEEN WATCHING THEM THROUGHOUT THIS ON ALL YOUR FEEDBACK, AND I THINK THE GENERAL FEEDBACK IS ALMOST BEEN UNANIMOUS ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND THEY CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS EMPHASIZED THESE PARTICULAR POINTS.

YES. AND IF I COULD OFFER A SUMMARY FOR THIS BODY THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE TURNED INTO A MOTION THAT, AGAIN, THIS BODY SUPPORTS THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE THREE E'S SUPPORTS, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE B AND C OPTIONS MINUS THE BUSSES.

HOWEVER, FOCUSING ON HOTSPOTS, EMPHASIS ON ENGINEERING AND STRATEGY AND A REVIEW OF IDEAS FROM THE BIKE COALITION.

[02:05:02]

YES, MADAM CHAIR [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S PART OF THE SUPPORT, THE THREE E'S.

SO YES, I PERSONALLY LIKE THAT SUMMARY.

I THINK THAT'S AN ACCURATE SUMMARY.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? COMMISSIONER SABELLICO, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE ADDITION OF INCLUDING QUICK BUILD PHILOSOPHY.

I'M SORRY. QUICK. WHAT? QUICK BUILD PHILOSOPHY.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.

QUICK, BUILD. [INAUDIBLE] QUICK BUILD PHILOSOPHIES.

[INAUDIBLE] AND IF I COULD JUST OFFER A SUGGESTION BECAUSE REVIEW IDEAS FROM THE BIKE COALITION THAT WAS CONTAINED WITHIN.

ALL RIGHT THEN. THEN I'LL MOVE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION, I'LL SECOND.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SABELLICO A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MEENES, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, LET'S VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSED FIVE ZERO WITH TWO ABSENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

WE'LL GO TO FINAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS, STARTING WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER MEENES.

[PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS]

NONE FOR ME. COMMISSIONER MERZ.

NO, NOTHING. JUST TO THANK YOU GUYS.

THANKS FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION AND IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE THE CITY IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS WORKING TOGETHER WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. THANK YOU AGAIN.

THE NOVEMBER 9TH, THE 14TH OF NOVEMBER MEETING HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION NOVEMBER 9TH.

SO AND WE DON'T HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BEFORE THEN, IS THAT CORRECT? ANY FURTHER? NO OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER OTHER THAN, AGAIN, TO THANK CITY MANAGER AND STAFF FOR ATTENDING.

THIS HAS BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL AND I HOPE THESE COMMENTS WILL BE A USEFUL RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

ONLY THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT UPDATE COMMITTEE WILL BE NEXT MEETING RIGHT AFTER THANKSGIVING ON NOVEMBER 30TH. AND WE'RE INTO A MODE NOW WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS, ALTHOUGH ON KIND OF A TENTATIVE BASIS.

SO WE'RE MOVING THE DIRECTION OF OF PROVIDING AN ACTUAL REPORT TO THE TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO SUGGESTIONS ON GROWTH MANAGEMENT THAT IT'LL BE SEVERAL MORE MEETINGS.

I EXPECT IT'LL BE PROBABLY THE SPRING BEFORE WE'LL HAVE THAT.

MR. STRONG IN THE SPIRIT OF APPRECIATION, I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS SOME GRATITUDE TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR NOT ONLY YOUR ATTENDANCE TODAY, BUT

[CITY PLANNER REPORT:]

SO THANK YOU. AND HOW ABOUT OUR SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, [INAUDIBLE] WHO IS LOSING HIS

[CITY ATTORNEY REPORT:]

NO THAT WAS MY SENIOR VOICE [LAUGHTER].

YOU'RE NOT THAT OLD. ALL RIGHT.

HAVING COMPLETED OUR AGENDA, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.