[CALL TO ORDER]
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CALLING TO ORDER THE JANUARY 18TH, 2023 MEETING OF THE CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COMMISSIONER LUNA.
YES. COMMISSIONER LUNA PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER SABELLICO PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY PRESENT AND CHAIR STINE PRESENT.
NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
MADAM CLERK DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? MR. CHAIR, WE DO NOT.
THANK YOU AND SEEING NO ONE COME TO THE PODIUM.
[1. CDP 2022-0014 (DEV15043) – OCEAN VIEW POINT]
WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.MADAM CLERK, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SCREENSHOT OF THE PROCEDURES FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WOULD YOU PUT THAT ON, PLEASE? YES. PROCEDURES FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS REQUEST THE SPEAKER'S REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM FILLED OUT FOR ALL ITEMS. REQUEST TO SPEAK FORMS MUST BE TURNED INTO THE MINUTES CLERK PRIOR TO THE ITEM COMMENCING.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE GIVEN 3 MINUTES UNLESS THAT TIME IS REDUCED BY THE CHAIR.
THOSE ARE OUR GENERAL. AND I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER SCREEN.
YES. AND OUR HEARING PROCEDURES ARE AS INDICATED ON THE SCREEN.
WE FOLLOW THOSE PROCEDURES WITH REGARD TO EACH OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH CALLING HEARING ITEM NUMBER ONE.
WE WILL OPEN THAT FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE NONE. COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MEENE., YES.
I'VE PREVIOUSLY VISITED THE SITE.
AND FOR THE RECORD. COMMISSIONER MERZ IS NOW IN ATTENDANCE.
SO TURNING IT OVER TO OUR CITY PLANNER, WELCOME TO THE DAIS.
MR. LARDY WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THIS ITEM, PLEASE? YES, MR. CHAIR.
WE HAVE ASSOCIATE PLANNER VAN LEEUWEN, WHO'S READY WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION PRESENTING ON THE SITE.
YES, WE DO HAVE THE OCEAN VIEW POINT PROJECT BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT.
THIS SPECIFICALLY IS A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR [INAUDIBLE].
COULD YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC PLEASE? THANK YOU. HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO THIS IS A COAST DEVELOPMENT PERMIT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 13 RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT ARE PROPOSED.
IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT LOCATION.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHERN TERMINUS OF TWAIN AVENUE, JUST WEST OF FARADAY AVENUE, AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK IS BORDERED ON THE WEST AND SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT SITE AS WELL.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A QUICK BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT SITE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID HEAR THIS ITEM IN 2019.
IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSED MAP IN 2019, THERE WAS PERMITS APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND A TRACK MAP, AS WELL AS GIVEN THE SITE'S TOPOGRAPHY AND VEGETATION.
IN TERMS OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THERE WAS ALSO PASSIVE RECREATION LOT, DRAINAGE LOT, A PRIVATE STREET, WHICH IS A LOT OF ITSELF AND AN OPEN SPACE DEDICATION OF 16 OF OVER 16 ACRES.
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AT THAT TIME THERE WAS AN APPROVED OR ADOPTED MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AS WELL AS A MITIGATED MITIGATION MONITORING PROGRAM.AND THIS ESSENTIALLY WAS THE MAP APPROVED AT THAT TIME.
AND SO, AGAIN, THIS IS THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE APPROVED LOTS.
THE PROJECT DOES FEATURE 13 RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
THE RESIDENCE WILL HAVE TWO AND THREE CAR GARAGES WHICH ARE ATTACHED.
THERE ARE FIVE TOTAL FLOOR PLANS BEING UTILIZED WITH UP TO THREE ELEVATION VARIATIONS FOR A TOTAL OF NINE TOTAL COMBINATION OF ELEVATIONS AND FLOOR PLANS. WHICH ARE ARRANGED AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
IN TERMS OF THE REVIEW OF THE PROJECT STAFF REVIEWED PROJECT FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, ZONING ORDINANCE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, AS WELL AS COUNCIL POLICY 44 AND 66.
AND STAFF DID FIND THAT THEY WERE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THESE REVIEW AREAS.
THAT REVIEW DOES COVER THIS PART OF THE PROJECT, SO NO CHANGES OR UPDATES ARE NEEDED TO THAT MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND NO FURTHER ANALYSIS AND ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTATION IS REQUIRED FOR THIS STAGE OF THE PROJECT ESSENTIALLY.
AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE BUT IS HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND DOES NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION THEMSELVES.
COMMISSIONER MEENES? YES, THANK YOU.
I REMEMBER BACK IN 2019 WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS IT CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE DEVOTED AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME REVIEWING THE ENVIRONMENTAL AS WELL AS, OF COURSE, WE HAD TWO PROPERTY OWNERS, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE AT THE HEARING, AND THEY HAD CONCERNS IN REGARD TO THE PROJECT ITSELF.
SO I'D LIKE TO ASK FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE APPLICANT AS TO HOW HE HAD ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES THAT THE APPLICANT THAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAD AT THE TIME.
AND SO THE INFORMATION I HAVE IS THAT ONE OF THE KIND OF AGREEMENTS THAT WASN'T ACTUALLY PART OF STAFF REVIEW OR REQUIREMENT OF THE PROJECT FROM A CITY REQUIREMENTS OR POLICIES IS THAT THE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES CLOSEST TO THE EXISTING HOMES WOULD BOTH BE SINGLE STORY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DISCREPANCY OF THE 2019 AGREEMENT WHERE 18 LOTS WERE CREATED BUT ONLY 13 LOTS ARE BEING DEVELOPED AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING? SURE. SO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE ARE 18 LOTS CREATED, BUT NOT ALL OF THOSE LOTS WERE PROPOSED TO HAVE TO HOLD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
SO FOR IN THIS MAP HERE, ONE LOT IS THE PRIVATE DRIVE.
THAT IS A LOT THAT IS OPEN SPACE, THAT IS ZONED OPEN SPACE.
AS WELL AS A LOT FOR DRAINAGE.
SO THAT IS WHERE YOU GET THE TOTAL LOT NUMBER.
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BUT AGAIN, THOSE THROUGH CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OF THE PREVIOUS, THOSE ARE DEED RESTRICTED TO ONLY BE USED FOR EITHER PASSIVE RECREATION, STREET OR DRAINAGE. IN TERMS OF HOW THAT APPLIES TO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE DO BASE THE AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIRED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS, NOT THE NUMBER OF LOTS.SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE LOSING 52 UNITS ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES.
SO HOW DOES THE CITY COPE WITH THIS LOSS OF ADDITIONAL HOUSING? IS THERE ANY KIND OF WHAT'S THE MECHANISM THAT WE USE TO HELP CREATE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING? SO I GUESS ONE ASPECT OF THE PROJECT THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD TO REALIZE IS THAT WITH THE APPROVAL IN 2019 AND I'M GOING TO GO UP TO THE LOCATION PHOTO HERE, THIS AREA WAS ACTUALLY ZONED FOR R-1 30,000.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT CAME BACK AND ACTUALLY APPLIED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AS NORMAL R-1, WHICH ALLOWED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF EVEN MORE SO, I'M NOT SURE.
AND IF I COULD ADD ON THAT, JUST VICE CHAIR LAFFERTY WE'RE REVIEWING THIS AGAINST THE EXISTING GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING ORDINANCE, SO WE DO NOT CONSIDER IT A LOSS OF UNITS IF IN THE FUTURE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS COME IN WITH SB 9 APPLICATIONS FOR A MINISTERIAL PROJECT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A DUPLEX, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY ADDITIONAL FEES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THAT TIME AND WE WOULD COUNT THOSE TOWARDS OUR HOUSING PRODUCTION.
BUT SINCE THIS IS BEING DEVELOPED CONSISTENT WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN, WE DON'T CONSIDER IT A LOSS TO GO UP TO FOUR UNITS FOR SB 9 WOULD REQUIRE A SUBSEQUENT SUBDIVISION FOR EACH OF THESE LOTS.
SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION TODAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND HOW MUCH WHAT'S THE FEE THAT'S GOING TO BE PAID FOR INCLUSIONARY HOUSING? SO THE FEE WILL BE THE FEE FOR THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY THE PURCHASE OF INCLUSIONARY UNITS FROM THE CREDIT BANK.
AND THIS PROJECT IS APPLICABLE TO THE PROVISION TO THAT ALLOWS THAT BECAUSE IT IS BETWEEN 7 AND 50 UNITS AND THAT FEE WILL BE DETERMINED ACTUALLY AT THE DATE THAT THE MAP IS RECORDED.
SO IT'S GONE UP SINCE OUR BRIEFING MONDAY.
SO THAT WOULD BE REGENERATED AT THE TIME THAT THE MAP IS READY TO BE RECORDED.
BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THE MATH OF 211,000.
SO YOU'RE SAYING TWO UNITS, CORRECT? THAT'S THE 211.
CORRECT. SO EACH UNIT IS BASICALLY $100,000.
YEAH. BASICALLY, AS THOSE NUMBERS ARE UPDATED, I BELIEVE, ONCE A YEAR.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET TO A NEW UNIT BECAUSE THESE UNITS ARE IF WE WERE TO BUILD THEM TODAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUILDING ABOUT 400 SQUARE FEET WITH THIS KIND OF MONEY.
SO SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT AND THE THING THAT'S A QUESTION IS.
AND MAYBE IT'S AN APPLICANT QUESTION, BUT.
SO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF FIND OUT IF WE CAN'T BUILD THESE UNITS OR WE CAN'T ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE. ADDITIONAL UNITS ON TOP OF THIS.
IS THERE A WAY THEY COULD POTENTIALLY TRADE THAT INCLUSIONARY HOUSING FEE IF THEY BUILD THESE OTHER UNITS? SURE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY ONE GOOD THING JUST TO TAKE A STEP BACK REAL QUICK, AND THAT IS THAT WHEN STAFF DOES REVIEW A PROJECT, WE DO
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SEE AND REVIEW, YOU KNOW, THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND AND POLICIES TO SEE WHAT WE SHOULD BE REVIEWING TO BE PREPARED FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.SO I DO WANT TO JUST INFORM YOU THAT THE PER CHAPTER 2185 OF THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH COVERS INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, THE APPROVAL THAT GOES ON TO STATE THAT THE APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGREEMENT OR OTHER ARRANGEMENTS SHALL TAKE PLACE PRIOR TO THE FINAL MAP APPROVAL AND SHALL BE RECORDED UPON FINAL MAP RECORDATION OR WHERE A MAP IS NOT BEING PROCESSED PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS.
SO AS THE MAP WAS APPROVED WHEN THIS LANGUAGE WAS IN PLACE, THAT WAS REVIEWED FOR CONSISTENCY AT THAT TIME AND REALLY WASN'T A SCOPE, PART OF THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT FOR THIS STAGE, BECAUSE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, CONDITIONED FOR THE MAP.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR OTHER PORTION OF THE QUESTION, THERE IS POLICIES PROVIDED BY FROM COUNCIL THAT COVERS WHEN ADUS CAN BE USED TO MEET AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS. WHICH DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS PROJECT, AS THE CURRENT POLICY DOES STATE THAT THAT IS APPLICABLE FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE 200 UNITS OR MORE.
BUT THAT'S NOT A TOPIC FOR THIS CONVERSATION.
SO I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY BUILT THESE.
AND THEY BUILT THEM AS ACCESSORY DWELLINGS.
WOULD THEY BE EXEMPT FROM HAVING TO PAY THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING FEE? NO, THEY WOULD NOT BE EXEMPT FROM PAYING THE FEE.
ANYTHING TO ADD, MR. KEMP? DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'LL MUDDY THE WATERS OR NOT, BUT WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2020, IT WENT TO THE COMMISSION IN 2019.
THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ISSUE WAS DEALT WITH AT THAT TIME.
AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WAS THAT THEY BUILD TWO UNITS AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WHAT THE ALTERNATES IN THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE.
THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW FOR ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF COMPLIANCE.
AND IN MARCH OF 2022, COUNCIL ADOPTED POLICY NUMBER 57, WHICH DEALS WITH ALTERNATIVES TO BUILDING THIS UNITS ON SITE.
ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES IS THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY CREATED A BANK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT EXIST, THAT THE CITY HAS USED PREVIOUS AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT MONEY FOR.
AND IF THERE ARE CREDITS AVAILABLE AND THE PROJECT IS OF A CERTAIN SIZE, WHICH THIS ONE IS, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO PURCHASE UNITS AS A SUBSTITUTE.
SO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR HAS BEEN DELEGATED THAT AUTHORITY, EXERCISED THAT AUTHORITY TO ALLOW THEM TO PURCHASE THE UNITS AS A WAY TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL.
SO IT IS A DONE DEAL AS WE SIT HERE.
THEY ARE REIMBURSING ESSENTIALLY THE CITY FOR THE CREDITS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN CREATED, AND NOW THE CITY HAS THAT MONEY REIMBURSED AND CAN GO OUT AND INVEST IT IN ANOTHER PROJECT.
SO THE CITY HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY COLLECTED THIS FEE? NO, THE CITY HAS ALREADY CREATED THE UNITS.
AND THEY ARE NOW PURCHASING A CREDIT AGAINST THOSE UNITS.
WELL, LIKE I SAY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CITY INVEST.
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BUT IF THERE'S AN OPTION FOR THIS DEVELOPER TO CREATE THESE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, NOT ONLY COULD IT HELP OUR [INAUDIBLE] NUMBERS INCREASE THAT BECAUSE UNIT FIVE IS IT LOOKS LIKE THE UNIT FIVE IS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY CAN APPLY.AND THERE'S FOUR OF THOSE IN THIS PROJECT.
AND IF THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD TRY TO ENCOURAGE THAT.
I THINK. WELL, THEY'VE MET THEIR OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY GETTING THE CREDITS IF THEY DO CHOOSE TO DO ADUS.
AS CITY PLANNER, IT SAID IT WILL ADD TO THE HOUSING STOCK.
THEY WILL NOT BE RESTRICTED AS AFFORDABLE.
I MEAN, THE COUNCIL HAS RESERVED IN 2185 THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING PROCESS TO ITSELF AND THEN THROUGH THIS POLICY, DELEGATED IT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT.
BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET A REFUND FOR THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING.
AND THERE'S NO REASON TO DO THAT.
NO, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, CAN WE GET FIVE UNITS? DO WE NEED TWO UNITS? CAN WE? I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT AND I'M HOPING THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN BENEFIT BECAUSE I SAW THIS IN THE PLAN AND I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO ME.
I MEAN, IF THE CITY ALLOWED THEM TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT THROUGH ADUS, THEN THE BANK DOESN'T GET THE MONEY AND THEN THERE WOULDN'T BE MONEY THERE TO INVEST IN OTHER PROJECTS AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO USE IT WOULD BE INCOME RESTRICTED THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FORCE THEM TO USE.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD DEAL.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT ALL CONNECTS.
SURE. AND IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO MAYBE HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT, TOO.
I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN HAVE THAT.
THEN WE WILL HAVE THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.
RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? YOU SAY THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WANT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
MAYBE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD JUST TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF THEN, PLEASE.
HELLO. MY NAME IS CAMERON SINCLAIR WITH THE RINCON HOMES.
SO WE DID THOSE ADUS AS OPTIONS.
WE WANT TO SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY ON BUILDING OUT THOSE KITCHENS, ETC..
THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] GO AHEAD.
SO IF THEY ARE PERMITTED AS ADUS, YOU WOULD RECEIVE SOME KIND OF.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'D RECEIVE SOME KIND OF PERMITTING BREAK ON THE FEES.
DOES THAT GET PASSED ALONG TO THE POTENTIAL BUYERS? I'M SORRY IF I WERE TO BUILD THOSE OUT.
YEAH, THE COST OF THE HOME WOULD ESSENTIALLY GO UP.
THAT'S WHAT'S WAIVED WHEN ADU IS PROPOSED.
SQUARE FOOTAGE TO PAY FOR IN BUILDING FEES.
WOULD THAT BE PASSED ON TO THE OWNERS? I COULDN'T ANSWER TO THAT.
YEAH. THERE ARE SOME TYPES OF ADUS AND DEPENDING ON THE SIZE.
SO IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THOSE BY ORDINANCE.
AND I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT SIZE PROPOSED.
COMMISSIONER MEENES? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARD TO OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORS THIS TIME AROUND IN REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
HAD THE COMPANY REACHED OUT IN RECENT TIMES? NOT RECENTLY KNOW THAT ALL THAT WORK.
SO THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER I PURCHASED THIS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, AND ALL OF THAT WORK HAD BEEN DONE PRIOR TO, CORRECT? YEAH. SO WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT THOUGH.
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I PERSONALLY HAVE WALKED AROUND THAT CUL DE SAC AND TALKED TO A VARIETY OF NEIGHBORS, EVEN THAT TRAIL THAT'S GOING IN RIGHT BY LOT 13.I'M NOW GOING TO PLANT PLANTS ON HER ON HER WALL AND IRRIGATE THOSE PLANTS IN PERPETUITY TO SATISFY HER AND HER DAUGHTER WHO LIVES THERE AND ARE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE WALKING BY AND LOOKING IN HER WINDOW.
SO WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN A FORMAL OUTREACH.
SO THE SELECTION OF THE SINGLE STORY HOME ADJACENT TO THE LOT AT THE END OF THE CUL DE SAC WAS THAT SELECTED AS A SINGLE STORY HOME BASED UPON COMPLAINTS BY THAT PARTICULAR HOMEOWNER BACK IN 2019 AND 2020? THAT'S CORRECT. THE OLD THE OLD CELLAR DECIDED AND CAME TO TERMS IN A ONE PAGE AGREEMENT TO HAVE THAT BE A SINGLE STORY AS WELL AS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE THAT BE A SINGLE STORY.
AND I HELD TO THAT AGREEMENT SUBSEQUENTLY ONE OF THOSE LOTS THAT FACE THE OCEAN.
BUT AGAIN, JENNIFER PEABODY LIVES THERE NOW AND WE HAVE WE'VE AGREED TO MAKE IT A SINGLE STORY.
GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER, COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR.
THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU.
OK THIS IS THE TIME OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING TO OPEN UP THE MATTER FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS ON THIS ITEM? YES, MR. CHAIR, WE DO.
NO FOR NO SPEAKER SLIPS FOR ITEM ONE.
OKAY. AND NO ONE'S COME FORWARD.
[INAUDIBLE] I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF REGARDING THE LETTER THAT WAS FORWARDED US TODAY BY THE PASADENA ATTORNEY.
THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM WE'RE STILL ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.
COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN. GETTING AHEAD OF YOURSELF A LITTLE BIT.
ANY COMMENTS ON COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER LUNA. I THINK BY THE PEOPLE LEAPING AT THEIR MICROPHONES, I THINK EVERYBODY'S SATISFIED IN THAT WE PAVE THE ROAD. YOU'RE A HONORABLE MAN, YOU KEPT YOU KEPT THOSE AGREEMENTS WHEN YOU REALLY DIDN'T HAVE TO BECAUSE IT WAS BETWEEN YOU AND ANOTHER PARTY AND PRIVATE.
I GOT MY SMILE OUT OF HIM THIS YEAR.
ALL RIGHT. LET ME WEIGH IN ON ON THIS.
THEY TEND TO BE ONES OF ACCESS TO THE BEACH AND THE SECOND IS VIEW FROM A PUBLIC LOCATION.
IN THIS CASE, IN MY MIND, THIS PROJECT IS A LONG, LONG WAY FROM THE BEACH.
IT'S EAST OF INTERSTATE FIVE, SO I DON'T SEE THERE'S ANY ACCESS ISSUES INVOLVED HERE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE COASTAL PERMIT AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF A VIEW ISSUE.
AS I UNDERSTAND THE STREET IS A PRIVATE STREET.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S A PRIVATE STREET.
OKAY. SO IN TERMS OF THESE HOMES POTENTIALLY BLOCKING ANY ATTRACTIVE VIEW OF THE OCEAN, I DON'T SEE THAT EITHER.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE TAIL WAG THE DOG.
THE DOG WAS IN 2019 WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE BIG PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE THE TAIL HERE IN FRONT OF US.
AND THESE HOMES ARE REALLY VERY ATTRACTIVE.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? OKAY. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
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ARISE A BIGGER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY TO TRY AND HELP KEEP US ON TRACK WITH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.SO IF THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THEM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP WITH THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH MY LINE OF QUESTIONING.
HAVE A GREAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE VOTE.
OKAY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER MEENES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION THEN, RIGHT? CORRECT. IS THERE A SECOND, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY SECOND.
LET'S VOTE. THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS.
I'LL LET PROJECT PLANNER [INAUDIBLE].
[2. SDP 2018-0007/HDP 2018-0004/HMP 2018-0004/MS 2018-0007 (DEV2018-0099) – VALLEY VIEW]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, AND THAT IS A PROJECT ENTITLED VALLEY VIEW.MR. LARDY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER.
SEPARATELY, THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER LETTER RECEIVED THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS AN ACTION TO CONTINUE.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER, I THINK IT'S [INAUDIBLE] PROPER THAT WE ALLOW THE APPLICANT, THE SPEAKER AND THE APPLICANT OR NOT SPEAKER TO SPEAK AND THEN WE CAN ENTERTAIN THE REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE.
SO, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU CALL THE SPEAKER, PLEASE? VICTOR DIAZ.
[INAUDIBLE] YOU COME FORWARD, SIR? AND WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? GOOD AFTERNOON. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
GO AHEAD. SEE YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES.
MY NAME IS VICTOR DIAZ. I AM A MEMBER OF THE SOUTHWEST MOUNTAIN STATE REGIONAL COUNCIL OF CARPENTERS, AND I LIVE IN THE LOCAL AREA AND LIVE WORK AND RECREATE IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROJECT.
I BELIEVE THAT I WILL BE IMPACTED BY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT.
THE CITY SHOULD REQUIRE THE PROJECT TO BE BUILT WITH CONTRACTORS THAT WILL HIRE LOCALLY, PAY PREVAILING WAGE AND UTILIZE APPRENTICESHIP APPRENTICES FROM STATE CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. WORKFORCE REQUIREMENTS, REDUCE CONSTRUCTION RELATED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS WHILE BENEFITING THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
IN A RECENT 2020 REPORT TITLED PUTTING CALIFORNIA ON A HIGH ROAD A JOBS AND CLIMATE ACTION PLAN FOR 2030, THE CALIFORNIA WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD CONCLUDED THAT INVESTMENTS IN GROWING, DIVERSIFYING AND UPSKILLING THE CALIFORNIA WORKFORCE CAN POSITIVELY AFFECT RETURNS ON CLIMATE MITIGATION EFFORTS. THE SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT RECENTLY FOUNDED THE THAT THE LOCAL HIGHER REQUIREMENTS CAN RESULT IN AIR POLLUTANT REDUCTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT, SIR, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS IN RESPONSE TO THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE? NO. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE ALL OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS ITEM.
COMMISSIONER SABELLICO, I MOVE TO CONTINUE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
WELL, MR. HARDY, WE DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR IT, SO WE'RE REQUESTING DATE UNCERTAIN [INAUDIBLE] EVERYTHING AND NOTICE IT BEFORE IT COMES BACK.
OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS ALLOWED. OK.
I MOVED TO CONTINUE TO A DATE TO BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY PLANNER.
THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER MERZ A SECOND.
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PLEASE LOCK IN YOUR VOTE.THAT MOTION TO CONTINUE PASSED SEVEN ZERO.
[3. ELECTION OF OFFICERS]
WE HAVE FINISHED OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. WE HAVE ONE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM OF INTERNAL PLANNING COMMISSION BUSINESS TO DISCUSS AND VOTE ON TONIGHT, AND THAT IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.IT'S BEEN AGENDA FOR ELECTION OF OFFICERS, CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED ON THIS WOULD BE JUST INFORMALLY OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
JUST GENERALLY YOUR THOUGHTS BEFORE WE GET TO MAKING ANY MOTIONS.
SO IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO DELETE AND OFFERING ANY THOUGHTS I HAVE.
COMMISSIONER MEENES, GO AHEAD.
BUT BEING THAT YOU'RE ASKING JUST FOR DISCUSSION ONLY, I'LL HOLD.
LET'S TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME.
WE'LL START DOWN HERE AND GO DOWN THE ROW.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. YOU KNOW, NOBODY LIKED MY SHARK TOOTH APPROACH AT THE LAST AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT I'M STILL SORT OF GOING TO STICK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION WHEN A VICE CHAIR MATRICULATED UP TO CHAIR.
AND I THINK THAT DEPENDING ON THE COMMISSIONERS SKILL SETS AND AND WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ALSO NEED TO BENEFIT BY SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION AND THAT WE BRING A LOT OF GIFTS TO THE CITY HERE AND I THINK WE LIKE TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT ALSO TO MAKE A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYBODY.
I THINK MR. MERTZ WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT CHAIR.
AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT MR. SABELLICO, AS WELL AS POSSIBLY MR. KAMENJARIN, WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT VICE CHAIR, AND THAT I THINK COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY HER EXPERTISE IS SO UNIQUE AND SO BENEFICIAL ON HER OTHER DUTIES THAT SHE DOES HERE FOR THIS COMMISSION, THAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE HER CONTINUE FOCUSING ON THAT BECAUSE SHE GIVES SO MUCH TO THIS COMMUNITY.
WE ALL LOBBIED TOGETHER AND WE ACTUALLY WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON OUR MOTION TO AMEND THE REQUIREMENTS SO THAT COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY COULD SERVE ON THOSE COMMITTEES.
AND I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THAT IS HER UNIQUE SKILL SET.
AND IN DOING THAT, I THINK I LIKE TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MR. MERTZ AND MR. SABELLICO AND OR MR. KAMENJARIN. AND AS FAR AS HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR.
WELL, THAT WAS VERY WELL STATED BY COMMISSIONER LUNA, AND I FULLY ECHO HER SENTIMENTS.
FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW THAT THREE OF US WERE JUST REAPPOINTED TO THE COMMISSION, AND I WAS GRATEFUL TO SEE THAT BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF US DO BRING A LOT TO THIS COMMISSION.
AND I THINK THAT WE WORK VERY WELL AS A TEAM TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD.
SO ALL OF US, I THINK, WOULD BE EXCELLENT AS OFFICERS OF THIS COMMISSION.
BUT IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT THIS COMMISSION NEEDS WITH THIS CURRENT MAKEUP OF THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF RUNNING MEETINGS EFFICIENTLY AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT ALL VIEWPOINTS ARE HEARD AND WE GET THROUGH THE HEARINGS AND THE PROPER WAY.
YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T EVEN WE HAD TO VOTE HIM IN AS A TEMPORARY CHAIR.
HE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, A TRULY EXCELLENT JOB.
AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE WOULD BENEFIT A LOT FROM HAVING HIM SERVE AS CHAIR THIS THIS COMING YEAR.
AND I WOULD PROBABLY SUPPORT THAT.
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THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MEENES.YES. I'M A PROPONENT OF HAVING THE VICE CHAIR.
UNLESS THERE HAPPENS TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE VICE CHAIR POSITION.
NOT, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, CAPABLE OF BEING CHAIR.
IN REGARD TO COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, I HAVE TO SAY, SINCE SHE'S BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, I TOTALLY ADMIRE HER ABILITIES, WHAT SHE HAS BROUGHT TO THIS COMMISSION IN REGARD TO HER ARCHITECTURAL BACKGROUND, HER ZEALOUSNESS AND REGARD TO HER INTERESTS, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT SHE PUTS IN TO EACH AND EVERY AGENDA ITEM IS IS, IN MY OPINION, ADMIRABLE.
AND I PERSONALLY FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT I WOULD I WOULD NOMINATE VICE CHAIR LAFFERTY AS OUR NEXT CHAIR FOR 2023, GIVEN HER BACKGROUND.
AND I THINK THAT SHE WOULD DO A FINE JOB.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN MERITOCRACY.
AND TO A LESSER EXTENT SENIORITY.
BUT ALL THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD SUPPORT WHAT COMMISSIONER MEENES SAID.
I WOULD SUPPORT COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY TO BE CHAIR AND PETER MERTZ TO BE VICE CHAIR.
WE'RE LET'S TAKE THOSE ITEMS SEPARATELY.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CHAIR INITIALLY.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME ASK COMMISSIONER MERZ, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED AND WILLING TO SERVE AS CHAIR FOR 2023? YES. WOULD YOU EMBRACE THAT? I MEAN, WOULD YOU REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT? YES. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, YOUR NAME HAS COME UP.
WOULD WOULD YOU EMBRACE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE CHAIR FOR 2023? I AM EXTREMELY FLATTERED THAT YOU ALL THINK THAT THAT'S A REASONABLE CONCLUSION, ALTHOUGH I THINK I AM COMFORTABLE WITH COMMISSIONER MERZ.
IF YOU WANT TO BE CHAIR, THAT WOULD BE GREAT WITH ME.
I DO VERY MUCH WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
IF THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO THAT.
THE COUPLE OF TIMES THAT I GOT MY FEET WET WHEN IN YOUR ABSENCE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A LOT TO I GUESS DO ALL THESE RED LINES AND AND TRY TO CHAIR AT THE SAME TIME.
AND TO BE HONEST I FEEL THAT THIS IS MY WHEELHOUSE.
AND I FEEL ALSO THAT IF COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN WANTED TO BE VICE CHAIR, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO OUR COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT.
YOU'RE KIND OF EQUIVOCAL ABOUT SERVING AS CHAIR.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? GO AHEAD. PUT WORDS IN MOUTH.
LET ME WEIGH IN ON A COUPLE OF.
I WAS DELIGHTED WHEN SHE, ALONG WITH MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER MERZ WERE REAPPOINTED.
SHE DEVOTES SO MUCH AND SHE PROVIDES INSIGHT AND EXPERTISE THAT I THINK IS MISSING ON THIS, OTHERWISE MISSING ON THIS COMMISSION AND [INAUDIBLE] ARCHITECTURAL BACKGROUND.
AND HER SERVICE ON THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, THAT SPOT ON, THAT'S EXACTLY IN HER WHEELHOUSE.
WE ARE VERY, VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER.
SO SHE IS A REAL CONTRIBUTOR AND I'M DELIGHTED THAT SHE'S WITH US FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.
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PROBABLY FIVE YEARS [INAUDIBLE] COMMISSION? OK AND I RECALL WHEN ISSUES WHEN WE DISCUSSED CHAIR IN PREVIOUS YEARS, I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS THE LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE HIS NAME WAS MENTIONED AND HE WAS SO MAGNANIMOUS AND SO WILLING TO DO WHATEVER THE COMMISSION THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR SHOULD WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? OKAY. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER MEENES WELL, GIVEN THAT COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY HAD HAS EXPRESSED HER WHEELHOUSE AND WHAT SHE FEELS COMFORTABLE IN, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MY THOUGHT PROCESS WALKING IN TODAY.
AND SO, THEREFORE, NO, I HAVE NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER.
I THINK COMMISSIONER MERTZ WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THE POSITION.
HE'S WORKED VERY, VERY WELL, VERY HARD AS WELL.
HE LOOKS AT THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN SOME OF US OTHER PEOPLE DO AS WELL.
SO I THINK I HAVE NO PROBLEMS RECOMMENDING COMMISSIONER MERTZ AS OUR CHAIR FOR 2023.
IS THAT A MOTION? YES, IT IS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
THE VOTE IS SEVEN ZERO UNANIMOUS.
CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONER MERZ.
OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION FOR A VICE CHAIR.
THERE HAS BEEN NAMES OF COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN AND COMMISSIONER SABELLICO HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED.
COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED AND WILLING TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR? I'M FLATTERED AND SURPRISED.
I'M TRYING TO ACT LIKE GEORGE CLOONEY.
I'D BE WILLING, BUT I'D BE WILLING.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO, WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN THAT? I AM ALSO FLATTERED AND WOULD BE HONORED TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR, I THINK.
I THINK I'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THE TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, AND I THINK THAT I AM READY TO DO THIS TO TAKE ON THE ROLE OF VICE CHAIR.
AND IF I, IF PETER, IF COMMISSIONER MERZ WAS WAS ABSENT, I WOULD BE ABLE TO FILL THE ROLE.
SO, YES, MY OWN THOUGHTS, BOTH OF THEM WOULD BE EXCELLENT AS VICE CHAIR.
THEY HAVE THEY'VE BEEN HERE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
THEY WERE APPOINTED AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THEY'VE BOTH BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS.
PLUS THEY'RE BOTH HERE FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY.
AND I THINK THEY HAVE THE THE SKILL SET IN TERMS OF LEADERSHIP TO LEAD A MEETING.
I THINK EITHER ONE WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT VICE CHAIR FOR 2023.
OK. SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OK. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR VICE CHAIR.
I GO AHEAD AND I WOULD MOVE MR. SABELLICO TO BE VICE CHAIR.
OK IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MERZ.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER SABELLICO TO SERVE AS VICE-CHAIR FOR 2023.
PLEASE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO UNANIMOUS.
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CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A NEW ADMINISTRATION FOR 2023.
I'LL SET UP BEGINNING NEXT MEETING, NEW SEATING ARRANGEMENT.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM.
[PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS]
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER REPORTS, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER LUNA.ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? NO. I'D LIKE TO DEFER TO CITY PLANNER LARDY, BECAUSE I DO WANT TO KEEP THE HOUSING ELEMENT FIRST AND FOREMOST.
SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US A QUICK BRIEFING ON ITS SURVIVAL RATE SURE. SO OUR HOUSING ELEMENT IS STILL A CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT.
WE'RE ONE OF, I BELIEVE, EIGHT IN THE REGION OUT OF THE 18 JURISDICTIONS.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO ACTIVELY WORK ON OUR LARGEST PROGRAM AS WELL AS IMPLEMENTING ALL OF THEM.
THAT LARGEST PROGRAM IS THE REZONING PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE WORKING OURSELVES WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS, ARE WORKING WITH CONSULTANTS NOW BECAUSE OF SOME DELAYS AT SANDAG TO DO OUR TRAFFIC MODELING, BUT WE ARE STILL ON SCHEDULE TO HAVE A DRAFT EIR RELEASED HOPEFULLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS YEAR AND BRING THAT IN BECAUSE THAT HOUSING ELEMENT FREE ZONE PROGRAM IS DUE TO BE COMPLETED IN APRIL 2024.
THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.
AREAS THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE PURVIEW IN.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU REALIZE HOW SIGNIFICANT IT IS THAT WE ARE ALIVE AND DOING WELL ON OUR HOUSING ELEMENT.
AND WHEN YOU DID APPROVE IT, THERE WAS A PLETHORA OF PROGRAMS IN THERE.
SO REZONING THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK TO US.
AND IT ALSO TOUCHES ON ADUS HOW WE COUNT, AND IT SORT OF BLEEDS INTO OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.
I'M VERY PROUD OF THE [INAUDIBLE] AND WHAT WE DID AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR SHEPHERDING THIS THROUGH. AND, YOU KNOW, RON, YOU'RE JUST SORT OF PRICELESS ON THE HOUSING STUFF.
YOU REALLY ARE. YOU'RE YOU KNOW, YOU ARE.
AND WE HAVE BEEN REALLY FORTUNATE IN THIS CITY TO HAVE HAVE THIS HAPPEN WITH OUR COMMISSION AND TO OUR CITIZENS AND TO HAVE IT HAPPEN IN THE STAFF.
SO I KNOW YOU YOU LOSE TRACK OF IT AFTER A WHILE.
AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT SEEMS BUREAUCRATIC, BUT FROM MY BACKGROUND IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT AND YOU REALLY SHOULD BE PATTING YOURSELVES ON THE BACK.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.
FIRST, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE THREE OF US WHO'VE GOTTEN REAPPOINTED.
I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL AND THAT SHOWS REAL WISDOM ON THE PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND SECOND, I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE COMMISSIONER STINE.
I'VE BEEN ON LOTS OF BOARDS, LOTS OF COMMISSIONS.
I'VE SEEN THE GOOD AND THE BAD.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MEENES.
YEAH. I'VE BEEN NOTICING IN THE NEWS RECENTLY ABOUT NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF TRANSIT PROPERTIES, ESCONDIDO BEING THE PRIMARY ONE THAT THEY'RE FOCUSING IN ON FOR HOUSING AS WELL AS HERE IN CARLSBAD, BOTH STATIONS, THE VILLAGE AS WELL AS POINSETTIA. MR. LARDY COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE IN REGARD TO THE DIRECTION OF NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT? SURE. SO NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT ACTUALLY HAS AN AGENDA ITEM TOMORROW AFTERNOON WHERE THEY WOULD BE ENTERING INTO AN EXCLUSIVE AGREEMENT BASED ON A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO SELECT TWO DEVELOPERS, ONE FOR EACH OF THE TWO TRANSIT STATIONS TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS FOR THAT, THEY WILL STILL BE DOING SOME NEGOTIATIONS AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE DEVELOPER SELECTED WILL BE IN A PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
THOSE ARE ALSO SITES WERE STUDYING IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.
SO THOSE ARE TWO PROCESSES THAT ARE MOVING CONCURRENTLY WITH EACH OTHER.
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GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
NONE FOR ME. COMMISSIONER MERZ, NEW CHAIR.
FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER STINE FOR HIS EXCELLENT WORK AS CHAIR FOR THE LAST YEAR.
AND I DO I THINK AS WELL SAID, WE DO BRING A DIVERSE.
COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. THANK YOU.
THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MET ON JANUARY 9TH AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS NO QUORUM, BUT IT ACTUALLY WAS CHAIRED BY OR SHEPHERDED, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU [INAUDIBLE] BY MR. STRONG, WHO HAS NOW TAKEN OVER THE DEVELOPMENT ASPECT OF PRESERVATION.
BECAUSE ONCE COUNCIL HAD APPROVED OVER THE THE FALL AND AND WINTER ALL OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE CHANGES NOW.
AND MAYBE, MR. LARDY, I GUESS I ANTICIPATED YOU BEING UP HERE TO HELP US DESCRIBE IT, BUT.
BUT NOW IT'S UNDER THE PURVIEW OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
WITH ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE LIBRARY DEPARTMENT.
SO SO THERE THE MILLS ACT IS OUT, THE ADVERTISEMENT IS ONGOING.
CORRECT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO SOLICIT THE FIRST 13 PROPERTIES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PART OF THE PRE 1990 APPROVALS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET A FEW PEOPLE INVOLVED AND AT LEAST HISTORICALLY DESIGNATING THEIR HOMES AGAIN AND ALSO MAYBE PARTICIPATING IN THE MILLS ACT. SO THAT WAS A REALLY.
SO UNFORTUNATELY WE COULDN'T VOTE ON ANYTHING.
AND THEN THE DESIGN REVIEW, I UNDERSTAND SPEAKING WITH MS. GLENNON, SHE HASN'T DETERMINED A NEW DATE, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE APRIL OR MAY WHEN THE.
IS, IF THAT'S CORRECT, WHEN THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE DRAFT OBJECTIVES, DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN WILL COME OUT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE AND SEEING SOME OF THE OPTIONS.
THE OPTIONS ARE VERY THE OPTIONS THAT WE SAW IN OCTOBER WERE REALLY INFORMATIVE.
AND THEN THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF WANTING ME TO BE CHAIR.
WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOUR LEADERSHIP CHAIR, STINE.
AND CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU ON YOUR APPOINTMENTS.
THE COUNCIL APPROVING AND REAPPOINTING THREE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL.
COMMISSIONER LUNA. COMMISSIONER MEENES YOU WERE RETICENT IN THAT.
YOU DIDN'T ADVISE THE CHAIR THAT THE OUTGOING CHAIR ALWAYS HOSTS A DINNER FOR US [LAUGHTER].
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING, COMMISSIONER.
I MEAN, YOU'VE ALWAYS COORDINATED THAT.
FOR SOME REASON, IT SLIPPED MY MIND.
ALL RIGHT. I WOULD JUST SAY ALL SERIOUSNESS.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.
AND ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT I REALLY ENJOY ABOUT THIS COMMISSION IS AND I DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE OTHER EXTREME IS HOW WELL WE TREAT EACH OTHER WITH COURTESY AND RESPECT.
NOBODY SNIPES, NOBODY DOES ANY BACKSTABBING, NOBODY SNIPPY TO ONE ANOTHER.
IF WE COME DOWN FOUR THREE, NO BIG DEAL.
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NOBODY IS CASTING ANY DISPERSIONS ON THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED THE OTHER WAY.AND THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T TAKE FOR GRANTED BECAUSE I'VE SEEN EXAMPLES OF JUST THE OPPOSITE.
SO PLEASURE TO DEAL WITH REGARDLESS OF WE GO SEVEN ZERO, FIVE TWO, FOUR THREE.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
I THOROUGHLY ENJOY WORKING ON THIS COMMISSION AND I'M DELIGHTED TO BE REAPPOINTED AND IT'S BEEN A DELIGHT TO SERVE IN MORE GOOD HANDS WITH COMMISSIONER MERZ AND COMMISSIONER SABELLICO FOR 2023.
LET ME JUST MENTION ONE OTHER THING.
YOU MAY RECALL THAT EARLY IN 2022 YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH.
A LOT OF WORDS. THAT COMMITTEE IS REALLY GETTING INTO HIGH GEAR.
NOW, WE GOT OFF TO A BIT OF A SLOW START.
IT'S A LARGE COMMITTEE, CITY PLANNER LARDY ATTENDS EVERY MEETING AND CONTRIBUTES A LOT OF INSIGHT.
SO WE'VE BEEN MEETING VERY REGULARLY.
WE'VE ALREADY MET ONE TIME THIS MONTH.
WE'RE GOING TO MEET AGAIN NEXT WEEK AND WE'RE WRESTLING WITH SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL ISSUES.
AND THE CURRENT ISSUES ARE THAT OF OPEN SPACE AND PARKS.
IN OTHER WORDS, MAKE IT MORE RIGOROUS.
SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
SO WE'RE STILL WRESTLING WITH THIS.
WE HAVE EXCELLENT DISCUSSIONS.
BUT OUR CHAIR, ERIC LARSON, WHO DOES A FABULOUS JOB, TRYING TO BRING CONSENSUS TO EVERYBODY.
AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND IT'S A CHALLENGING TASK.
BUT HE'S HE'S DOING IT VERY WELL.
AND AND CITY PLANNER LARDY AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS ARE REALLY OF ASSISTANCE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET A MARCH DEADLINE TO GET SOMETHING TO TO COUNCIL.
WE MAY HAVE TO GO A LITTLE BIT LONGER OR OR MEET EVERY OTHER WEEK INSTEAD OF EVERY MONTH.
BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
BUT IT'S A GOOD GROUP AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THAT.
SO WITH ALL ADO, OUR NEW NOT NEW CITY PLANNER, HE'S BEEN CITY PLANNER FOR SOME TIME.
WELCOME TO THE DAIS AND MR. LARDY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT? YES. CHAIR AND COMMISSION.
JUST A COUPLE ITEMS. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR STRONG HAD ASKED AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS A FEW MEETINGS AGO OF ANY INTEREST IN ATTENDING THE LEAGUE OF CITIES TRAINING.
SO IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN THAT, PLEASE LET US KNOW WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
AND THEN YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT YOLANDA IS OUT AND NOT HELPING US RIGHT NOW.
OK SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE THREE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN REAPPOINTED.
WE DON'T HAVE TO TRAIN ANYBODY.
AND WE GET THREE PEOPLE WHO'VE HAD FOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
SO THAT'S GREAT. AND THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER STINE AND COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY FOR THEIR LAST YEAR OF LEADERSHIP AND LOOK FORWARD TO MR. MERTZ AND MR. SABELLICO, OR SHOULD I SAY, COMMISSIONERS FOR THE COMING YEAR.
THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE FINISHED OUR AGENDA, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU ALL.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.