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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2023 MEETING OF THE CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LED THIS EVENING BY COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.
AND FOR THE RECORD, WHICH EACH COMMISSIONER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME BEGINNING ON MY FAR LEFT.
. EXCUSE ME. ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT FOR COMMISSIONER LUNA, WHO'S ABSENT.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE NEXT ITEM FOR APPROVAL ARE THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 7TH, 2022 MEETING.ARE THEY ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING? COMMISSIONER STINE. YES, I HAVE ONE CORRECTION THAT'S NOT IN ADDITION.
ONE OF THE SENTENCES THERE IS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED AND INACCURATE, AND I'VE GIVEN STAFF A THAT THE SENTENCE THAT BEGINS. HE ADDED THAT THAT THE PERFORMANCE STANDARD RELATING TO IT JUST DOESN'T READ WELL AND I DON'T THINK IT'S WHAT I SAID.
I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT SECOND TO THE LAST SENTENCE BE CHANGED AND THE FOLLOWING BE INSERTED.
QUOTE HE ADDED THAT THE PERFORMANCE STANDARD RELATING TO CITY ADMINISTRATIVE FACILITIES, PARTICULARLY THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW CITY HALL, WAS ELIMINATED BY THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL ALREADY HAS MADE A DECISION REGARDING CHANGES TO AND EXPANSION OF CITY HALL.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE COMMISSION DELETE THE SENTENCE THAT IS THERE AGAIN, THE SECOND FROM THE LAST SENTENCE AND INSERT WHAT I JUST READ AND STAFF HAS A COPY OF THAT.
EXCELLENT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO THE.
I'LL ENTERTAIN FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS CORRECTED.
YEAH. SO MOTION BY A COMMISSIONER MEENES AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STINE.
IT WAS. PASSED FIVE, WITH COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY ABSTAINING THE NEXT TIME FOR APPROVAL ARE THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 18, 2023 MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES FOR THE JANUARY 18 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING? ALL RIGHT. SEE? NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
SO MOVED AND MOVED IN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
OKAY. NEXT, WE'LL GO ON TO THE NOTES FOR THE PROCEDURES FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY.
SO PROCEDURES ARE SUCH REQUESTS TO SPEAK.
FORMS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL ITEMS. REQUESTS TO SPEAK FORMS MUST BE TURNED IN TO THE CLERK PRIOR TO THE ITEM COMMENCING.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE GIVEN 3 MINUTES UNLESS THAT TIME IS REDUCED BY THE CHAIRPERSON.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY OPENED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC NEXT APPLICANT RESPONSE IF NECESSARY.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY IS CLOSED PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION FOLLOWED BY PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE.
THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
YEAH, CERTAIN PLANNING COMMISSION DECISIONS ARE FILED, BUT MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND APPEAL MAY BE FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK AT CITY HALL WITHIN TEN CALENDAR DAYS OF THE DECISION. THE COST OF FILING AN APPEAL IS $847 FOR ALL MATTERS.
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THROUGH THURSDAY 8 TO 5 FRIDAY, A TIME LIMIT OF 3 MINUTES ALLOCATED EACH SPEAKER ITEM SUBMIT FOR VIEWING, INCLUDING PRESENTATIONS.DIGITAL MATERIALS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE TIME LIMIT MAXIMUM FOR SPEAKERS.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
AGENDA THAT ARE WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER AND JURISDICTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.MADAM CLERK, HAS ANYONE FILED A REQUEST TO SPEAK AS SPEAKER THIS EVENING? CHAIR? THERE HAS NOT BEEN.
OKAY. I SEE. SEEING NONE, WILL BEGIN TONIGHT'S HEARING.
[1. CDP 2022-0031 (DEV2022-0107) – ADAMS HOUSE]
I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.BUT FIRST. HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS HAD ANY EX-PARTE CONVERSATIONS OR DISCLOSURES ON THE SITE? AND. YES, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
I VISITED THE SITE AND I ALSO LOOKED AT IT, LOOKED IT UP ON GOOGLE MAPS.
GREAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEENES.
THANK YOU. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.
THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN TO THE SITE.
OKAY. AND I ALSO VISITED THE SITE AND WALKED UP THE DRIVEWAY.
MR. LAWYER, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM? YES, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT IS A CDP WHERE WHILE WE CAN'T HAVE IT ON CONSENT, WE DO NOT GO INTO PRESENTATION PROACTIVELY.
WILL I BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS? YES, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.
LOOK TO THE THING WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PRESENTATION.
WHILE HE'S HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ABBREVIATED VERSION.
OKAY. THEN I'LL INTRODUCE ASSOCIATE PLANNER ESTEBAN DONNA TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
THE SUBJECT PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 4368 ADAMS STREET.
THE SITE IS GENERALLY LOCATED JUST EAST OF IOWA.
DNA LAGOON ALONG ADAMS STREET.
THE PROJECT IS NOT APPEALABLE TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
THE PROJECT PROPOSES A NEW 6790 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH AN ATTACHED THREE CAR GARAGE AND A 793 SQUARE FOOT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS ALSO PROPOSED, AND THAT IS UNDER A SEPARATE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
THE WEST ELEVATION SHOWS THE FRONT OF THE HOME.
THE FRONT DOOR TO THE HOME IS LOCATED TO THE RIGHT OF THE SINGLE CAR GARAGE DOOR.
THIS RENDERING LOOKS AT THE STRUCTURE TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST.
THE CLOSEST STRUCTURE IS THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WITH THE MAIN DWELLING UP THE HILL AND BEYOND.
AND THIS IS A RENDERING SHOWING THE REAR OF THE HOUSE LOOKING NORTHWEST.
AND FINALLY, THE THIRD RENDERING SHOWS THE GREAT ROOM FACING WEST TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU, DEAN. COMMISSIONERS HAVE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THOSE RENDERINGS.
THEY WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO THEY ARE HELPFUL.
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THE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND MAYBE YOU WELL, YOU IDENTIFIED IT WAS IN THE RESOLUTION FINDINGS TALK ABOUT.THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE UNDER FINDING ONE WILL NOT OBSTRUCT VIEWS OF THE COASTLINE AS SEEN FROM PUBLIC LANDS OR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR OTHERWISE DAMAGE VISUAL BEAUTY OF THE COASTAL ZONE. SO BECAUSE THIS IS A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT AND BECAUSE THIS HAS A VIEW OF THE OCEAN AND BECAUSE THERE ARE PROPERTIES BEHIND IT, DOES THAT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE WALL ACTUALLY CREATE THAT OBSTRUCTION THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH OF VIEWS OF THE COASTLINE? SO THE FINDING REFERS TO AS SEEN FROM PUBLIC LANDS.
SO THE PROPERTY TO THE REAR OF THIS PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THE CITY DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A VIEW ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REGULATE.
FEATURES, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OR STRUCTURES BLOCKING SOMEBODY'S VIEW.
ASIDE FROM YOUR TYPICAL HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT ALSO SAYS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
CORRECT. WHICH WOULD BE THE STREET ABOVE AND THAT WOULD BE HIGHLAND.
ADDITIONALLY, THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE PROPERTY GOES DOWNHILL, SO HIGHLAND IS AT A HIGHER LEVEL.
YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THAT WALL PARTICULARLY NECESSARY? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO DIVIDE AND, YOU KNOW, CREATE SORT OF EVEN IN THE HOUSE, IT CREATES A DIVISION OF SORT OF SEPARATING THE VIEWS OR HAVING, YOU KNOW, LIMITING THE VIEWS OUT.
SO THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE.
THE OTHER THING WAS TRYING TO FIND THE FRONT DOORS TO BOTH THE ADU AND THE UNIT.
BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE DEFINITION OF HOW OUR CITY IS DEFINING BASEMENT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE NORMALLY THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, SINGLE STOREY OR ON GRADE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY AND BECAUSE THIS IS A SLOPED SITE.
SO WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF BASEMENT IN CARLSBAD.
SO DEFINITION OF BASEMENT IS A LEVEL WHERE THE GRADE OUTSIDE IS, HOW CAN I EXPLAIN THIS IN ENGLISH? SO THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CEILING, SO THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CEILING OF THAT FLOOR AND THE GRADE OUTSIDE HAS TO BE LESS THAN HALF OF THE OF THE TOTAL FLOOR TO CEILING DIMENSION.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A DAYLIGHT BASEMENT.
IS QUALIFIED BECAUSE MORE THAN 75% OF THE PERIMETER OF THAT LEVEL IS CONSIDERED A BASEMENT.
AND THAT CALCULATION IS SHOWN ON THE DRAWING SOMEWHERE.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD. ARE THERE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT? OKAY, NOW WE'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HASN'T FILED A SPEAKER SLIP WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME? SEEING OK.
AND WERE THERE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS? NO, THERE IS'NT.
SEEING NONE. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THIS ITEM.
OKAY. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVING FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF.
WE WILL NOW OPEN COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
WE COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM.
THIS IS A FAIRLY SIMPLE VOTE FOR ME, AND IT'S AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE.
AND I VISITED THE SITE, AS I THINK MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE.
AND THE VIEW TOWARD THE WEST IS, QUITE FRANKLY, A SPECTACULAR VIEW.
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AND BUT IT SLOPES DOWNWARD TO THE LAGOON AND THE COASTLINE IS IN THE DISTANCE.SO I CAN'T SEE THAT THIS PARTICULAR BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, I THINK BEAUTIFUL LARGE HOUSE, IS GOING TO IMPAIR ANY PUBLIC VIEWING OR ANY PUBLIC VIEWING OF THE COASTLINE AT ALL, JUST BY THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED AND BY THE SLOPES.
IT'S A LONG WAY FROM THE OCEAN.
IN FACT, THE FREEWAY IS BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE OCEAN.
THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
WELL, I THINK COMMISSIONER STEIN SAID IT VERY WELL.
IT LOOKS A GREAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEENES.
YES. I ALSO THINK THAT THE PROJECT IS A PROJECT THAT IS A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROPERTY.
AND I THINK, AGAIN, THE VIEW ISSUES THAT COMMISSIONER STINE SPOKE OF, I FULLY AGREE WITH.
THEREFORE, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN HAD A COMMENT.
THIS LOOKS LIKE IT SHOULD BE THE CENTERFOLD FOR ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST.
THANK YOU. AND ALSO TO JUST IN MY COMMENTS, I DID VISIT THE SITE.
I WALKED UP THE DRIVEWAY AND, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO THE BRIEFING.
I DEFINITELY WANTED TO SEE THE 3D THINGS AS I LOOKED AT THE PLANS.
IT'S LIKE, WOW, YOU KNOW, WE SEE A LOT OF THINGS COME THROUGH.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK FROM AN ELEVATION STANDPOINT, EVERYTHING IS QUITE FAR ABOVE IT.
BUT AND I'M GLAD WE HAD THE PRESENTATION, TOO, BECAUSE WE FURTHER GOT TO SEE WHAT IS.
BUT THE VIEW AND THE DESIGN IS QUITE PROJECT.
SO I ALSO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
THEY SEE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THE SIDE OF.
YEAH. COMMISSIONER MEENES MADE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
OK THE MOTION PASSES SIX WITH KAREN LUNA ABSENT.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
[2. UPDATE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT TEMPLATE]
LARDY, WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE NEXT ITEM? YES, MR. CHAIR. THIS ITEM IS A DEPARTMENTAL REPORT RETURNING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT TEMPLATE AS IT WAS DISCUSSED ON OCTOBER 19, 2022.INTRODUCING FOR PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MURPHY.
AND FOR THE RECORD, JEFF MURPHY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
AFTER SOME DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATIONS.
COMMISSION RECOMMENDED OR ASKED THAT WE PURSUE WITH THE THIRD OPTION, WITH SOME ADDITIONAL EDITS MADE TO THAT, WHAT WILL WE BE PRESENTING TODAY AS WHAT THAT TEMPLATE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE HOPE THAT IF THIS MEETS YOUR STANDARDS, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL START IMPLEMENTING THIS NEW TEMPLATE EFFECTIVE IN THE DURING FOR THE MARCH HEARINGS.
SO I ONLY HAVE 85 SLIDES TO GO THROUGH.
SO THIS WOULD BE REALLY QUICK.
THE REASON BEING IS WE TALKED WITH THE CITY CLERK AND THEY'RE TRYING TO STANDARDIZE ALL OF OUR STAFF REPORTS, NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES. AND SO THIS IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S STAFF REPORTS IT STILL HAS A NUMBER OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE LIKED TO HAVE INCLUDED IN THE SUMMARY.
HOWEVER, IT'S A LITTLE BIT STRUCTURED, A LITTLE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
ONE OF THE REQUESTS IS TO HAVE AREAS, THE SITE MAP INCLUDED IN EMBEDDED IN THE DOCUMENT, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE EXISTING SETTING WILL BE THE SAME GOING ON TO THE SITE AND SURROUNDING.
SO THESE WILL BE INCLUDED IN ALL STAFF REPORTS GOING FORWARD.
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THE PROPOSED PROJECT DOESN'T CHANGE.HOWEVER, WHAT WE DID LOOK AT DOING BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION IS ON THE PROJECT ANALYSIS IS PROVIDING MORE INFORMATION, MORE DETAILS REGARDING HOW THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH APPLICABLE CODES AND REGULATIONS.
NOW NOT ALL PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE DENSITY BONUS OR BE INCLUSIONARY OR SUBJECT TO INCLUSIONARY.
HOWEVER, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSION WHERE WE PUT IN SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IS DENSITY BONUS AND HOW THE PROJECT IS UTILIZING THAT STATE LAW IN ITS APPLICATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED.
AND THEN THE LAST AS THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT, THIS REALLY INFLUENCES OUR YOUR ABILITY AND OUR CITY COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO DENY, PARTICULARLY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
IF THERE'S CONCERNS WITH A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND BEING ABLE TO APPROVE IT.
THE DISCRETIONARY DISCUSSION HERE IS LARGELY THE SAME.
WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
SAME WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE CONCLUSIONS WERE AS THEY WERE PROPOSED IN THE ORIGINAL OPTION.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING THE INFORMATION.
THE INFORMATION WILL BE REFERENCED IN ATTACHMENTS, BUT THE STAFF REPORT ITSELF WILL BE REFLECTED, YOU KNOW, A LOT TIGHTER, LOT SIMPLER THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. SO WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENDORSE THIS NEW TEMPLATE.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL START DOING THAT IN THE MARCH, STARTING IN MARCH, GOING FORWARD.
THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MEENES. YEAH.
JEFF, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
ONE, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AS WELL AS YOUR STAFF.
I THINK YOU LISTENED TO OUR MEETING WHEN WE HAD REVIEWED THIS THE FIRST TIME.
THANK YOU. AGAIN. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT JOB.
QUESTION FOR YOU IN REGARD TO AN ITEM GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
WOULD THAT BE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYTHING SEE THAT IN HERE? WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING? I KNOW IT'S A BIG ISSUE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN CARLSBAD, AND WE TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME AS GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
WOULD THERE BE A BENEFIT TO HAVE THAT IDENTIFIED IF IT'S APPLICABLE, OR WOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE A PART OF THIS, BUT COULD BE INCORPORATED IF STAFF FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE LATTER, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE CASE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT, THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE IT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, WITH THE PASSAGE OF A NUMBER OF STATE LAWS AND ONE OF THE PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IS SB 330, IT LIMITS JURISDICTIONS FROM IMPOSING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, ONE OF WHICH IS HOUSING CAPS.
AND OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT HAS HOUSING CAPS.
AND SO THAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE SUSPENDED THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN IN TERMS OF ENFORCING THAT.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT RESOLUTION THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO NOW RELATED TO THAT IS ON THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT UTILITIES AND SERVICES WHERE THE SAME ASSEMBLY BILL, I MEAN, SENATE BILL 330 STIPULATES THAT WE CANNOT IMPOSE MORATORIUMS ON HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
SO THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS THE STATE HAS REALLY CRIPPLED OUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT INFORMATION WILL BE FED BACK TO THE COUNCIL.
WELL, THEN THEY GIVE DIRECTION AS TO HOW DO WE PROCEED WITH LOOKING AT UPDATING GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
NOTHING IN THIS SAYS THAT WE CANNOT ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IS THIS IS BASIC.
YOU'LL SEE THIS FORMAT AND STRUCTURE IN EVERY DIFFERENT STAFF OR IN GOING FORWARD.
NO, I THINK THAT EXPLANATION IS IS EXCELLENT.
I THINK HAVING THE BACKGROUND THAT YOU JUST TO PROVIDE MORE CLARITY IS WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HEAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER STINE.
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YES. MR. MURPHY. I DO LIKE THE CHANGES.I THINK THAT IT'S CONDENSES AND HIGHLIGHTS CERTAIN INFORMATION RIGHT AT THE OUTSET.
THE ONE ISSUE I HAVE, AND PERHAPS YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT TO ME IS, BY THE WAY, A BACKGROUND.
WHEN I LOOKING AT THE INITIAL STAFF REPORT FOR FIRST THING I LOOK AT, WHAT TYPE OF PROJECT, WHAT ARE THEY PROPOSING TO DO? THE VERY NEXT THING IS WHAT IS THE DISCRETIONARY PERMIT OR PERMITS WERE ASKED TO MAKE A DECISION ON.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT EARLY WRITE UP AT THE HEADING IN THE TEMPLATE THAT YOU HAVE HERE.
WHERE WOULD I BE ABLE TO QUICKLY GLEAN WHAT TYPE OF PERMIT I'M BEING ASKED TO MAKE A DECISION ON? THE ITEM IS WHAT YOUR REQUESTED IS NOT IN THE TOP EXCEPT FOR UNDER CASE NUMBERS.
SO YOU WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE CASE NUMBERS, THE ABBREVIATIONS ARE.
WE IF YOU RECALL, THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN OUR DRAFT AND THE CLERK HAD TAKEN IT OUT.
WHAT I COULD DO IS I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH WITH THEM TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS A REASON WHY AND IF THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE, WE CAN PUT THAT LINE ITEM BACK IN AND WE CAN IN THAT WAY, WE'LL PUT THE MORE COMMON ONES ON THE LIST.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGING, BUT ALL OF THEM IN THERE.
AND I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GLEAN THAT WITHIN THE FIRST FEW SECONDS.
I LIKE THE WAY IT'S CONDENSED.
I HAVE A QUESTION AND A COMMENT.
IF YOU COULD TURN TO PAGE THREE OF YOUR REPORT, THE VERY TOP PUBLIC OUTREACH AND COMMENT.
I'M HARKENING BACK TO WHAT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE STRAWBERRY FIELDS ISSUE.
NOW, GRANTED, THAT MAY BE EXCEPTIONAL RATHER THAN EXEMPLARY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, IF IT'S AGREEABLE TO ALL THAT THIS BE BASICALLY SAID, WE'VE RECEIVED X NUMBER AND YOU CAN SEE THEM AS EXHIBIT WHATEVER. I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER IN KEEPING WITH THE FLOW OF THE DOCUMENT RATHER THAN LISTING POTENTIALLY TEN, 15, 20 PUBLIC OUTREACH COMMENTS AT THIS POINT.
SO A KIND OF A CLARIFICATION ON KIND OF HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT STRUCTURING THAT.
SO THE SECOND PART IS THE RESPONSE TO COMMENTS.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW MANY COMMENT LETTERS WE RECEIVED, WILL GROUP COMMON COMMENTS TOGETHER AND KIND OF LAY THEM OUT HERE AS WELL AS AN EXPLANATION OF HOW WE RESPONDED TO THOSE COMMENTERS? IF NECESSARY, WE'LL DO AN ATTACHMENT TO THAT.
BUT WE'RE I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT SECOND PARAGRAPH.
SO WHAT WOULD DO IS THAT IF, AGAIN, IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GROUP THEM INTO COMMON COMMENTS AND RESPOND, OR IF WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE'LL DO AN ATTACHMENT AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT THE GENERAL ARE.
THE RESPONSE IS LOCATED IN ATTACHMENT.
YEAH, I THINK EXHIBIT FORM AGAIN, IT WOULD BE UNCOMMON THAT WOULD BE NECESSITATED.
AND REGARDING THE STRAWBERRY FIELDS, IT'S A LITTLE KIND OF UNIQUE BECAUSE IN THAT CASE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS ASKING FOR A STAFF INTERPRETATION, AND THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC NOTICE OTHER THAN THE, YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN IT'S JUST TO DO THE BROWN ACT REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT WAS A KIND OF A UNIQUE GRIEF.
HAS ANYONE RECEIVED ANY OF HER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
I SPOKE WITH HER BEFORE THE MEETING.
SHE SAID SHE HAD TO GO INTO AN EMERGENCY DENTAL APPOINTMENTS.
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THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.BUT SHE DIDN'T MENTION ANYTHING.
I DID ASK SPECIFICALLY IF THERE WAS ANYTHING SHE WANTED ME TO RELAY TO THE COMMISSION.
WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE.
MY THE REASON I ASK IS I MEAN, SHE'S A VERY EXPERIENCED MEMBER.
AND I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO GET HER INPUT ON THIS.
SO UNLESS THERE'S A PROBLEM, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS WE CARRY THIS OVER TO A FUTURE MEETING WHEN WE CAN ASCERTAIN EITHER IN WRITING OR HERE PUBLICLY ANYTHING SHE MIGHT WANT TO ADD.
I THINK IT'D BE WORTH THE TIME.
AND AGAIN, UNLESS THERE'S SOME URGENCY ON THIS, NO URGENCY.
WHAT I WOULD DO IS I THINK THAT WOULD BE WISE.
IT WILL JUST DELAY WHEN WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT IT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER. YES, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR COMMISSIONER LUNA'S IDEAS, ALTHOUGH I DID.
SO I WANTED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE INTRODUCTION PAGE IS IT DOES LAY OUT, WELL THE TEMPLATE IN WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THIS.
BEGINNING. PORTION COULD INCLUDE WOULD BE WRITING OUT APN, WHICH IS REALLY THE ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER, RIGHT? OR STP, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WRITING OUT THOSE ABBREVIATIONS IN THAT TITLE TO BE ABLE TO HELP.
FACILITATE. SO ONE OF THE COMMENTS WITH THE CASE NUMBER THAT COMMISSIONER.
SORRY. STINE MENTIONED WAS THE ABBREVIATION OF THE CASE NUMBERS.
AND YET IF WE WROTE OUT COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND THEN PUT THE ABBREVIATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE BASICALLY WE KNEW WHICH ONES THEY WERE GOING TO BE, AND THEN IN THE REST OF IT IT COULD BE ABBREVIATED.
BUT SETTING UP THE BEGINNING PAGE TEMPLATE TO SAY DEFINE ALL THE ABBREVIATIONS WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL, I THINK, TO CONTINUING THAT USE. THE THING THAT'S BOTHERING ME THE MOST IS THE ES SLASH ND IS MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF EIRS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE.
SO TO ME IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO SPELL IT OUT IN THE VERY BEGINNING IF THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S JUST SO SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CHALLENGE WITH THAT.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE THE NUMBERS YOU SEE, THOSE ARE THE CASE NUMBERS.
SO THE CASE NUMBER IS AN ABBREVIATION AND SO THAT'S HOW IT'S TRACKED.
SO AN STP NUMBER IS PART OF THE CASE NUMBER.
THE WAY I THINK THE SOLUTION TO THAT IS IF WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY CLERK TO IDENTIFY AGAIN WITH CHECK BOXES OF WHETHER IT'S A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, WHETHER IT'S A COPY, WHAT HAVE YOU, WE CAN SPELL OUT THOSE AND THEN IN SO IT'S LISTED SOMEWHERE ON THE FRONT SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PERMIT TYPE IS BEING CONSIDERED.
BUT TO CHANGE THE ABBREVIATIONS IN THE CASE NUMBERS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE BECAUSE AGAIN, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK I'M ASKING JUST TO BE ABLE TO SET UP WHAT THE ACTUAL.
AND THEN THEY CAN CONTINUE TO BE ABBREVIATED.
THAT'S REALLY MY CONCERN WITH ALL OF THAT.
I THINK THAT IT'S A HELPFUL THING, BUT I THINK THAT FOR THE PUBLIC TRYING TO READ THIS OR EVEN FOR US WHO AREN'T ALWAYS FAMILIAR WITH ALL THESE ABBREVIATIONS, IF IT'S NOT REALLY WELL EXPLAINED IN THE BEGINNING, IT IS A LITTLE MORE CUMBERSOME TO KIND OF PUSH FORWARD WITH THAT.
BOTH HOMES WERE CONSTRUCTED SOMETIME IN THE 1940S.
THEY HAVE TO BE 45 YEARS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A HISTORIC REPORT.
IS THAT CORRECT? UNDER SEQUA, IS THAT GOING TO BE DEFINED THERE? AND WILL HISTORIC REPORTS BE SOMEHOW ITEMIZED NOW THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS MOVED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT?
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WILL THIS BECOME INCLUDED IF IT'S AN OLDER PROPERTY THAT REQUIRES, AS REQUIRED, A HISTORIC REPORT BY SEQUA.SO THE PURPOSE OF THE EXISTING SETTING IS JUST THAT.
SO IT'S JUST DESCRIBING THE STRUCTURES.
LATER IN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU'LL TALK WE'LL TALK ABOUT ANALYSIS AND IF THERE IS HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE RELATED TO THE STRUCTURE, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE ANALYSIS TAKE PLACE IS IN THAT SECTION.
SO THAT'S USUALLY MY CONCERN IS THE ANALYSIS THAT THESE HISTORIC REPORTS ARE TYPICALLY COMING BACK WITH BECAUSE WE HADN'T HAD A HISTORIC LIST BEFORE, IS THEY WERE ALWAYS COMING BACK WHERE THEY'RE NOT HISTORIC, EVEN THOUGH THEY POTENTIALLY COULD BE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MY CONCERN IS HOW DO WE HOW DO WE QUANTIFY? THE REQUIREMENT OF SCHOOL HAVING A HISTORIC REPORT AND ACTUALLY HAVING SOME TEETH TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT MIGHT BE POTENTIALLY VALUABLE AS HISTORIC.
AND DOES THIS REPORT SORT OF START TO CLARIFY THOSE? SO I THINK ONE IS THE TEMPLATE.
WE'RE JUST REFERRING TO HOW THE TEMPLATE IS GOING TO BE STRUCTURED.
SO YOU CAN USE THAT IN YOUR DECISION MAKING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT DISCUSSION IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE.
IT'S NOT CLARIFYING OR CREATING A SYSTEM FOR HOW HISTORIC STRUCTURES ARE GOING TO BE ANALYZED.
WOULD IT BE PART OF THE PROJECT ANALYSIS THEN? YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT WOULD IT BECOME A SEPARATE LINE ITEM OF, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A HISTORIC REPORT ON THIS BECAUSE OF SEQUA, WOULD IT BE A SEPARATE LINE ITEM? CORRECT. IF DURING OUR ANALYSIS, WE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE'S A HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE RELATED TO THE STRUCTURE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR MODIFICATION, THEN THE ANALYSIS SECTION IS LIKELY WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO READ ABOUT WHAT THE FINDINGS WERE AND WHAT ARE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.
OKAY. SO IS THAT GOING TO BE IN A FUTURE ITERATION? IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF THIS PROJECT ANALYSIS? BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY NOTED HERE NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, AGAIN, NOT ALL PROJECTS ARE THAT WE REVIEW ARE GOING TO HAVE A HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS TEMPLATE IS JUST KIND OF JUST THAT AS A TEMPLATE.
AND SO AS PROJECTS COME IN AND HAVE UNIQUE FEATURES TO THEM THAT WE NEED, REQUIRE SPECIAL ANALYSIS, THAT ANALYSIS IS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE IN HERE. WE DON'T, YOU KNOW TO ITEMIZE EVERY POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, ISSUE THAT WE MIGHT SEE IN AN APPLICATION.
IT'S NOT REASONABLE OR FEASIBLE TO PUT IN A TEMPLATE.
OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
WELL AGAIN. AND POTENTIALLY ANY KIND OF BIOLOGICAL REPORTS THAT YOU'D HAVE TO.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW SIGNIFICANT THEY ARE.
UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT ONE WHEN I.
SPEAKING WITH THE TRIBES TO HAVE THE OVERSIGHT OF THE TRIBES.
IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE THING.
TYPICALLY WHAT WHAT ALL OF THAT IS DESCRIBED IS UNDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
AND SO THIS PROJECT IN THIS EXAMPLE HAD A RELATIVELY SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE WOULD SEE MOST OF THAT DESCRIPTION.
AND FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS, THAT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WILL BE MUCH MORE THAN JUST ONE PARAGRAPH.
OKAY. WELL, IT'S LIKE I SAY, IT'S NOT QUITE LISTED HERE AND I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE OVERLOOKED OR OMITTED BECAUSE I THINK OBVIOUSLY WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO HAVE THESE THINGS PER SE, AND I THINK THEY SHOULD REFLECT SOMEWHERE IN THE STAFF REPORT, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A REFERENCE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THIS IS THE ATTACHMENT.
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AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE FROM A PROJECT THAT HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.JUST TO GIVE YOU GIVE EVERYONE AN UNDERSTANDING OR IDEA WHAT A STAFF REPORT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UNDERSTOOD. I DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
THE MAP THAT YOU'RE SHOWING, THE SITE MAP, I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SHOWING CONTEXT, BUT THE HARD PART ABOUT THAT MAP IS YOU CAN'T READ THE STREETS, WHEREAS THE MAP THAT IS ALWAYS INCLUDED CURRENTLY, YOU CAN READ THE STREETS.
THIS IS IT'S AN ADDITIONAL MAP.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION, ARE THESE REALLY COOL, COLORFUL? DOCUMENTS. MY CONCERN IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THOSE COLORS MEAN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A KEY TO THESE COLORS IN THIS DOCUMENT. SO IS IT SOMETHING WHERE THOSE COULD BE BECAUSE YOU ARE ACTUALLY TALKING AND TABLE A THE SITE AND SURROUNDINGS.
THE GENERAL LAND USE DESIGNATION, COULD THAT THE COLOR CODE BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE DESCRIPTION IN THE BOX UP THERE SOMEHOW TO BE ABLE TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ZONING AROUND THESE PROPERTIES ARE? RIGHT. THE INTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN ZONING DESIGNATION IS TO SPELL OUT WHAT THAT WHAT THE ZONING IS, WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION IS OF THE SITE AS WELL AS THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF THAT TABLE WAS, IS TO SPELL THOSE OUT.
YEAH, WELL, I JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, NORMALLY WITH COLORED THINGS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE ZONING MAP HAS THIS ENORMOUS COLOR KEY TO ALL THE DIFFERENT COLORS AND WHAT THEY MEAN.
AND I WAS JUST THINKING, BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO WRITE DOWN WHAT THEY ARE IN THIS, COULD THE COLOR CODE FOR THAT PARTICULAR THING BE PART OF THE TABLE? I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT WE REMOVE THE IMAGES IN THAT CASE BECAUSE WHAT'S WHAT WE WOULD REQUIRE STAFF TO DO IS DO CUSTOMIZE MAPPING FOR EACH ONE, FOR EACH PROJECT. THAT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING AND CORRECT.
AND SO I WOULD SAY THEN IF YOU'D RATHER WE CAN JUST REMOVE THE IMAGES ALTOGETHER.
WELL, I'M ALL FOR COLOR BUT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE COLORS MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS A BAD REPRESENTATION.
THIS IS A VERY NICE REPRESENTATION.
BUT I THINK IF THE IF THERE ISN'T A KEY TO THE COLORS, IT DOES MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE IT JUST MAKES IT A PRETTY PICTURE AS OPPOSED TO INFORMATIONAL, WHICH IS WHAT OBVIOUSLY THIS WHOLE REPORT IS ALL ABOUT, IS TRYING TO PROVIDE US WITH THE MOST INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE.
SO I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO DEAL WITH IT.
BUT I THINK IF THERE WAS SUCH A WAY WHERE IT WAS SORT OF A DROPDOWN MENU AND THE COLOR WAS ACTUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE TITLE, THEN IT WOULD ACTUALLY KIND OF MAKE SENSE. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WORK YOUR MAGIC WITH THE COMPUTER PROGRAMING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT I THINK THE COLOR IS NICE.
ONE THING THAT ALSO WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SO THIS WAS JUST A CONTEXT MAP, JUST TO SHOW WHAT WAS THERE.
YEAH, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH IS, YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MURPHY, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GET SOMETHING WHERE IT IT SHOWS UP ONE WAY ON THE TABLE AND ANOTHER WAY ON THE MAP.
SO IF IT'S EASIER TO TAKE THE MAPS OFF AND JUST SPECIFICALLY DO IT WITH THE TITLES, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I DO THINK THE MAPS AND HAVING SOME SORT OF KEY WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
WELL, I WOULD DEFER TO THE COMMISSION AS A MAJORITY INTEREST TO HAVE US REMOVE THE MAPS ALTOGETHER AND JUST REFER TO THE TABLE, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE CURRENT PROCESS WE DO NOW IS WE JUST WE JUST NARRATIVE SAY THIS IS WHAT THE ZONING IS SURROUNDING.
IT WAS REQUESTED THE LAST TIME TO PUT THEM IN.
BUT IF THE DESIRE IS TO HAVE KEYS FOR EACH MAP AGAIN, THAT'S A BIT TIME CONSUMING FOR STAFF TO DO PUT THAT TOGETHER THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IF THAT'S YOU KNOW I ACTUALLY DEFER TO THE COMMISSION.
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WHICH WAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO TO HAVE THAT.THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY RAISED.
SO BACK AT THE FIRST PAGE WITH THE CASE NUMBERS AND THE ABBREVIATIONS, THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION.
BUT PERHAPS WE CAN JUST PUT LIKE A KEY AS AN EXHIBIT, NOT EVEN ON THE FRONT PAGE, BUT LIKE, AS AN EXHIBIT JUST AT THE BACK OF THE AGENDA ON EVERY ON EVERY STAFF REPORT TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY MEAN JUST SO IT'S THERE.
I THINK I'M WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? ACTUALLY, I WANT TO ASK THAT FIRST.
LIKE PUT A LIKE A LISTING OF WHAT THE ACRONYMS MEAN IN THE BACK OF THE.
YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER DOING.
I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
OKAY. BUT IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION FROM ME.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT'S A PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS ON THE AGENDA OR IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
BUT AS FOR SOME OF THE POINTS THAT COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY WAS RAISING, LIKE SPECIFICALLY HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST LIKE PUT IN THERE? AND MAYBE THIS IS LIKE.
NOT GOING TO BE IN THE AGENDA IF THE [INAUDIBLE] IS NOT BEFORE, BUT IF [INAUDIBLE] IS BEFORE THE COMMISSION, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST PUT ON THEIR. EVERYTHING.
THAT'S NOT RELEVANCE TO THE AGENDA ITEM AND SAY WHY IT'S NOT RELEVANT LIKE.
HISTORICAL PRESERVATION IS NOT RELEVANT BECAUSE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 2003.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST LIKE KIND OF DO THAT OR IS THAT GOING TO MAKE IT TOO LONG? ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS IT'S WHAT SECURE ITEMS ARE YOU GOING TO DO? I MEAN, THERE'S 26 DIFFERENT SKILL ITEMS STARTING FROM ESTHETICS GOING DOWN.
YEAH, THAT INFORMATION IS DESCRIBED.
IF THERE IS AN INITIAL STUDY ALL GOING THROUGH EACH OF THAT FOR AN EXEMPTION, WHAT WE DO IS WE ATTACH THE EXEMPTION THAT THE CITY PLANNER ISSUED AND IF THOSE DO APPLY AND THERE ARE CERTAIN FINDINGS WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT'S DESCRIBED IN THE EXEMPTION DOCUMENT.
OKAY. SO IT'S WHAT I'M BASICALLY HEARING IS IT'S IN THE EXHIBIT.
GOT TO GO LOOK FOR IT IN THE EXHIBIT.
I THINK I'M SATISFIED WITH THAT.
THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S IT FOR ME.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER STINE? YES. JUST TO FOLLOW UP BRIEFLY, I'M ALSO SENSITIVE TO STEPH'S.
MY OWN TAKE, MY PERSONAL TAKE IS HAVING STAFF GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY THINGS THAT ARE NOT RELEVANT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD USE OF OUR TIME. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S RELEVANT AND WHAT THE ISSUES.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF MY STAFF TIME IN MY OPINION.
I DON'T THINK MY EYES ARE THAT BAD.
I JUST HAD THEM CHECK. THEY'RE NOT THAT BAD, BUT I CAN'T ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
I CAN'T READ ANY OF THE DESIGNATIONS ON THOSE, SO MAYBE THEY COULD BE.
SO ALL I SEE IS COLORS AND LINES, BUT I CAN'T SEE IF IT'S OPEN SPACE OR WHATEVER.
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AND DO VERY QUICK RESEARCH ON THE WEBSITE.BUT I WOULD LIKE THESE MAPS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE READABLE IN TERMS OF THE LETTERS.
SO I CAN LOOK AT THAT AT A GLANCE AND SAY, OH I SEE THAT'S A DIFFERENT ZONE.
THAT IS A ZONE R ONE OR WHATEVER IT IS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER? YES, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
YEAH, JUST ON THE PAGE WITH TABLE B AND C, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE REDUNDANCY ISSUE.
TABLE B, YOU ALREADY SAY GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION DESIGNATION.
SO UNDER EXISTING LAND USE, ALL YOU'D PROBABLY NEED, YOU WOULDN'T NEED G.P.
LAND USE, YOU'D PROBABLY JUST NEED THE R DASH 15 SLASH ZERO OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND THEN THE SAME WITH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED DISTRICTS AND TABLE C, YOU ALREADY SAY THAT THERE'S ZONING DISTRICTS, SO YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY ZONE IN ANY OF THOSE TABLES, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE CLEARER TO.
JUST FOR OUR NOVICE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALL THESE CODES REALLY MEAN.
YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF THESE ARE GOING TO WE'RE TRYING TO EVENTUALLY GET ALL ELECTRONIC ON THESE APPLICATIONS, I MEAN, ON THE STAFF REPORTS. CORRECT.
SO MAYBE THE ZONING MAP AND THE GENERAL PLAN MAP HAVE A LINK TO IT THAT JUST BECOME A LINK SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY GO TO THAT PARTICULAR ZONE.
SO THEN IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE PART OF THE.
UNFORTUNATELY, JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION.
WE CAN'T DO JUST LINKS TO DOCUMENTS.
WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS AND WHAT WE WOULD CONTINUE DOING IS YOU STILL WE WOULD STILL PRINT AN EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11 PAGE OF WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION IS, WHAT THE ZONING PAGE IS. AGAIN, THIS WAS IN REACTION TO ONE OF THE CONCERNS THE COMMENT WAS RAISED LAST TIME IS CAN WE PUT THEM ALSO EMBED THEM IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SO I DO AGREE THAT THE THUMBNAIL IS A LITTLE SMALL.
WE CAN BLOW THAT UP A LITTLE BIT AND FOCUS MORE ON THE PARCEL.
I THINK THIS ONE WAS MORE OF TRYING TO GET MORE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
BUT WE CAN MODIFY THE THUMBNAIL SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET MORE OF THE YOU READ THE LETTERING.
I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN I ALSO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT AND HAVE BY 11 REDUCED DRAWINGS.
THEY'RE VERY HELPFUL TO ALL OF THIS.
SO AND THAT WILL THAT CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE EXHIBITS? YES. YES.
GREAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MEENES.
JEFF, I ASSUME FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, THAT THE CONSISTENCY OF THIS TEMPLATE IS SOMEWHAT IN ALIGNMENT WITH CITY COUNCIL'S ITEMS AS WELL.
AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY CLERK IN THAT REGARD, CORRECT? OKAY. SO WITH THAT, YEAH.
THAT BECAUSE OF THAT TIE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY YOU HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ALSO WEIGHED IN. AND ARE YOU GOING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL THEN IN REGARD TO WHAT THEIR TEMPLATES GOING TO LOOK LIKE OR WHAT? NO, THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE PLAN TO CHANGE THE CITY COUNCIL TEMPLATE.
AND AGAIN, SINCE YOU'RE SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A QUASI JUDICIAL BODY WHICH IS UNIQUE THEN FROM OTHER COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES THAT THE CITY HAS IN, GIVEN THAT YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE SOME, YOU KNOW, DEAL MORE WITH SEQUA AND MORE ANALYSIS THAN OTHERS.
THERE WAS SOME, I GUESS, LEEWAY THAT THE CLERK GAVE US IN CREATING THIS TEMPLATE.
IT'S KIND OF GENERALLY STRUCTURED SIMILAR TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IT HAS INFORMATION STRUCTURED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THEY WERE SAYING.
IT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL DO AND WHAT WE HAD BEFORE WITH THE SHADING AND ALL THAT.
THEY WERE SAYING IT'S TOO FAR, IT'S TOO DIFFERENT.
AND SO TALKING WITH THEM, THIS IS WHAT THEY CAME BACK WITH WAS WITH THE EDITS THEY MADE.
THANK YOU. AND SO WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
MADAM SPEAKER, IS THERE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS ON THIS ONE? CHAIR THERE IS NOT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HASN'T FILED A SPEAKER SLIP? WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM.
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SEEING NONE. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC TESTIMONY FOR QUESTIONS OF STAFF.WE WILL NOW OPEN COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
YES, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO, I THINK PURSUANT TO COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN SUGGESTION, I'LL MOVE TO JUST CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING THAT COMMISSIONER LUNA IS PRESENT FOR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? CAN I SECOND MY OWN SUGGESTION? IF SO, I'VE SECONDED IT.
SO MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER SABELLICO AND DOUBLE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.
COMMISSIONERS WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE THE VOTE.
OKAY, SO SEE NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
OKAY. THE VOTE CARRIES BY THE MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF 6 TO 0, WITH COMMISSIONER LUNA ABSENT.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS OR COMMISSION REPORTS?
[PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS]
YES, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.THANK YOU. I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE CITY.
JANUARY 29TH, 2023, THE UNION TRIBUNE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL RESULTS AND REGARDING THE REPORT AND ACTIONS RELATING TO THE LOCAL TRAFFIC EMERGENCY PROCLAIMED IN AUGUST, INCLUDING WHICH IS NOW INCLUDING A LAUNCH OF THE PUBLIC EDUCATION PROGRAM.
SO I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT THE MEETING THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS IS EXPANDING FROM AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY OUR CHILDREN STAY SAFE WITH UNDERSTANDING MORE OF THE RULES.
SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD OUTCOME AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP OUR COMMUNITY IMMENSELY.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP THERE IS A SECOND CHANCE TO ATTEND THE EGGS ENVIRONMENTAL SCOPING MEETING.
IT WAS SCHEDULED IN JANUARY AND THEY HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AT FEBRUARY 15TH AT 4 P.M..
I UNDERSTAND IT'S A ZOOM MEETING AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE ENGAGEMENT FOR DISCUSSING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE 2025 REGIONAL PLAN.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT BECAUSE OUR CITY IS ONE OF THE CITIES THAT.
SO WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND I ALSO WAS AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO NOW WHERE A COUPLE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS SPOKE ON RAILROAD CROSSINGS AND AND ESPECIALLY IN THE VILLAGE IN TAMARAC, WHERE THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH GETTING ADDITIONAL.
CLOSURES WHEN THE TRAINS ARE PASSING, THERE'S ONLY REALLY THERE ARE ONLY ONE SIDED NOW.
AND SO AND BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN THE VILLAGE, THEY'VE SEEN A FEW TOO MANY ACCIDENTS.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S A QUESTION THAT WE WORK WITH HERE IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE.
BUT THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, AND I'VE SENT A NOTE TO MR. STRONG, OUR ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, REGARDING THIS CONCERN.
THAT WAS A BIG PUSH TO TRY AND DO THAT.
IT SOMEHOW HAS SORT OF STOPPED.
THERE WAS THE NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT PROJECT FOR THE RAILROAD STATION, THE PARKING LOT THAT WAS PRESENTED, I THINK, LAST WEEK. AND THAT'S A IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT.
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AND, YOU KNOW, MY BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AND WITH THESE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS BEING DELAYED FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF MONTHS, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW OUR OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MOVE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ALONG IF THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY? SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S AN OPTION AND I'M WONDERING IF ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, IF THAT'S AN OPTION, IF THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.MR. KEMP. WELL, WE ARE IN THE NON AGENDA-ISED DISCUSSION.
I THINK YOU COULD MAKE A REQUEST TO HAVE SOME OF THESE ITEMS ON THERE.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING MAYBE MR. MURPHY AND MR. [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION IS THAT THEY'VE ONLY JUST SELECTED SOMEBODY FOR A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT STATE THE VILLAGE.
PRIOR DESIGN MASTER PLAN STANDARDS ARE, BUT THEY COULD VERY WELL BE IN PLACE BEFORE WE WOULD RECEIVE ANY KIND OF AN APPLICATION FOR A PROJECT THERE. YEAH.
WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS YEAH, THEY, WE EXPECT THERE'LL BE SOME TIME FOR NEGOTIATION BETWEEN NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT AND THE TWO SELECTED DEVELOPERS BEFORE THEY COME TO AN AGREEMENT. PROJECTS ARE SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE WHEN THEY APPLY, AND SO IT'LL DEPEND ON THAT.
AND SO AND THAT'S A GRANT REQUIREMENT.
SO WE ARE STILL ADVANCING THAT PROJECT.
WELL, WITH THE DOUBLE TRACKING THAT WE KNOW IS COMING, I'M CONCERNED THAT IT.
MIGHT BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY IF WE DON'T TRY TO ADDRESS IT SOMEHOW.
WELL, IT'S MORE OF AN INFORMATIONAL BULLETIN.
THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS HAS CREATED A ABOUT 30 PAGE DOCUMENT TALKING ABOUT EXISTING BUILDINGS AND HOW TO RENOVATE, RETROFIT AND REUSE.
UNCOVERING THE HIDDEN VALUE OF AMERICANS EXISTING EXISTING BUILDING STOCK.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S LIKE I SAY, IT'S A DOCUMENT THAT COULD BE SHARED IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, SINCE HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS NOW MOVED INTO THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS, I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE AS A TEMPLATE.
THEY HAVE SOME EXAMPLES IN OTHER CITIES OF REUSE OF EXISTING BUILDINGS AND ESPECIALLY COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES, WHICH I THINK WE'RE RUNNING INTO SOME CONCERNS WITH TRYING TO UTILIZE SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS.
SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, I CAN FORWARD THAT TO THE COMMISSION.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STINE.
AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE REPORT ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN IN PLACE NOW FOR ALMOST A YEAR.
I THINK OUR FIRST MEETING WAS IN MARCH.
WE HAD A LOT OF OUR EARLY MEETINGS, WHICH WERE INFORMATIONAL OF NATURE ON VERY.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD NOW TO THE NEXT YEAR.
AS YOU KNOW, THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT CAME ABOUT IN 1984, IS THAT CORRECT? 40, I THINK IT WAS 84, 86 TOOK OFF TWO YEARS, THE MID EIGHTIES, WHERE GROWTH WAS GOING LIKE GANGBUSTERS.
SO THAT WAS THE ORIGIN OF OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT'S STILL THERE TODAY.
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SO WE'RE NOW HAVING SOME VERY LIVELY BUT RESPECTFUL DISCUSSIONS.ERIC MARTY IS STAFFING FOR US ABOUT SOME OF OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT STANDARDS AND WHETHER WE SHOULD KEEP THEM OR WE SHOULD HAVE NEW ONES.
AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO CONSENSUS BECAUSE THERE'S VERY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON THESE ISSUES AND PEOPLE ARE NOT SHY ABOUT SHARING THEIR PERSPECTIVES, WHICH IS A HEALTHY THING.
WHERE WE ARE SPECIFICALLY, WE HAD A VERY LONG MEETING THAT WENT OVER 4 HOURS ON 26TH OF JANUARY, THE LAST WEEK, AND WE DISCUSSED AT THAT POINT AND MADE SOME DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWED AGAIN IN A REPORT THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO US FOR FURTHER FINE TUNING BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
BUT OUR FIRE CHIEF SAID I REALLY DON'T NEED IT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT RELATIVE TO RELEVANT TO WHAT WE DO AND POLICE SAME THING THERE HASN'T BEEN AND THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT WHETHER THIS SHOULD BE AND IT'S NOT.
AND THEN WE HAD OUR DIRECTOR FOR CULTURE AND ARTS SPEAK AND BASICALLY SHE SAYS WE DON'T NEED IT.
WE GET FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCE.
WE'RE GETTING ADEQUATE FUNDING.
THERE'S NO REASON TO CREATE A STANDARD THAT'S NEVER BEEN SO FAR AS THE COMMITTEE'S CURRENT THINKING AND VOTE IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE NO FUTURE STANDARDS FOR FIRE. POLICE AND CULTURAL ARTS LIBRARY SEPARATE.
PARKS. NOW, PARKS ARE ONE OF THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES.
SO THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN, I GUESS, AGAIN, UNLESS THERE'S A RECONSIDERATION.
AGAIN, THAT WAS A LIVELY DISCUSSION ON THAT ISSUE.
THERE ALSO WAS A FURTHER DISCUSSION TO DIRECT TO MAKE A REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE WE CAN'T, AS THE COMMITTEE, MAKE DIRECTIONS TO STAFF TO GO ON EXTENSIVE UNDERTAKINGS.
BUT THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT WE SHOULD REQUEST COUNCIL TO DIRECT STAFF TO EXPLORE THE PRACTICAL REALITIES OF DOING DISTANCE STANDARDS. THERE'S SOME SENTIMENTS ON THE COMMITTEE, SIGNIFICANT SENTIMENTS ON THE COMMITTEE THAT PARTICULAR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS ARE TOO FAR AWAY.
YOU CAN EASILY WALK FROM YOUR HOUSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.
THERE'S STRONG SENTIMENT ON THAT.
SO WHAT THE COMMITTEE DID DOES AND WE HAVEN'T ADOPTED A STANDARD ON THAT, BUT WE'VE ASKED THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT SOME TYPE OF DISTANCE STANDARD WOULD DO AND AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY COME BACK AGAIN.
GET AROUND THE CITY, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF A LOT OF ISSUES CONCERNING CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS.
AND CERTAIN STREETS CAN BE VERY, VERY CONGESTED AT TIME AFTER DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH.
EVERYBODY REALLY WANTS TO HAVE US LOOK AT NOT JUST CARS AND AUTOMOBILES NOW, BUT BUT CIRCULATION INVOLVES WALKING AND IT INVOLVES BICYCLING AND INVOLVES A NUMBER OF OTHER MODALITIES.
BUT IN THE END, THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO RETAIN OUR CURRENT STANDARDS, WHICH IS A LEVEL OF SERVICE D OR BETTER SUBJECT TO POSSIBLE EXEMPTIONS OF CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS AND STREET.
HAS THE COUNCIL HAS DONE RETAIN THAT SO THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE AD HOC DECISIONS BASED UPON A PARTICULAR AREA THAT SAYS IT'S JUST NOT REALISTIC AND WE HAVE TO EXEMPT THAT EVEN IF THAT'S A DE OR WORSE.
SO THOSE WERE THAT WAS THE UPSHOT OF A VERY LONG, LIVELY, I WOULDN'T SAY UNPLEASANT, BUT LIVELY DISCUSSION WENT OVER FOR HOURS AND WE'RE COMING BACK IN THIS MONTH, FEBRUARY, WITH FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ON ANOTHER CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE THERE.
I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PRO AND CON ON THAT AS WELL.
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BUT STAY TUNED.WHEN WE FINISH ALL THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS REVIEW STAFF IS GOING TO COMPILE THEM AND SOME TYPE OF REPORT, INITIALLY A DRAFT REPORT THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AND FINE TUNING BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVEN'T CREATED A MONSTER HERE.
WE'RE TAKING EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY.
IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE AS WELL.
WE'RE HOPING TO FINISH THIS SPRING.
MR. LARDY IS STILL MARCHERS IN APRIL FOR OUR LAST MEETING.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE REPORT ON THAT? THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT IS THERE ALSO BE A PRESENTATION ON THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING.
THANK YOU. SO A LOT IS GOING ON AT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO.
AND THAT OUR TASK WILL BE TO HAVE THIS REPORT, FINE TUNE THIS REPORT WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF STAFF WHO HAS BEEN VERY DILIGENT ON THIS AND THEN GET THAT TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEN CITY COUNCIL WILL WEIGH IN ON IT AND WHATEVER THEY APPROVE OR THEY MIGHT FINE TUNE, IT'LL COME BACK FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
BUT THAT'S DOWN TO DOWN THE ROAD.
SO WE'RE ALMOST ALMOST COMPLETING OUR FINISHED WITH OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE WORK.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STINE. THANK YOU, MR. STINE AND MR. LARDY FOR THEIR WORK ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO I'M LOOKING AT THE WANTED TO ADDRESS THE BRIEFINGS THAT WE DO.
AND JUST OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS OBVIOUSLY TO PROVIDE THE BEST INFORMATION TO ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO EACH OF US COMMISSIONERS. ONE THING THAT I'VE NOTICED IN MY EXPERIENCE, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE AND PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THIS AS IF WE ALL HAVE CHANGES TO OUR SCHEDULE, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO CONSOLIDATE. SO IF SOMEONE HAS TO DROP OUT, WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER WITH THEIR CELL NUMBERS AND TRY TO JUMP ON TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SINGLE SINGLE COMMISSION MEETINGS WITH STAFF JUST BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE OF STAFF INVOLVED.
ONE SAVES TIME OF STAFF AND ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER.
I'VE REALLY ENJOYED I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRIEF WITH THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS.
SO JUST SOME THOUGHTS AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
[CITY PLANNER REPORT]
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE CITY PLANNER? THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON IS SEVERAL OF YOU ASKED FOR THE SPECIFIC AGENDA FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES LAST WEEK.THEY TOLD US THAT THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE THIS WEEK.
THIS WEEK THEY'RE TELLING US IT'LL BE AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK.
[CITY ATTORNEY REPORT]
REPORTS FROM OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY? NO, SIR. OKAY.SO I'LL WRITE THIS. CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION STANDS ADJOURNED.
ALL RIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.