Feb 14, 2023 City Council Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER.

PLEASE TAKE ROLE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA HERE.

MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL HERE.

MAYOR BLACKBURN PRESENT.

ALL FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

I'M SUPPOSED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS SERVING AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. MR. COSTA, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US? AND WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TONIGHT.

[PRESENTATIONS]

YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE TOM FRANK, OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, TO THE PODIUM WHILE I READ THE PROCLAMATION.

AND JUST BEFORE I DO, I WANT TO SAY CARLSBAD IS A WONDERFUL CITY FOR ENGINEERS.

WE ARE THE HOME OF LEGOLAND AND SO MANY BUDDING YOUNG ENGINEERS, AND I'M SO PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION TODAY.

THIS PROCLAMATION DECLARES NATIONAL ENGINEERS WEEK, THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 19 TO 20 FIFTH, 2023.

AND I'LL READ THE WHEREAS IS.

WHEREAS ENGINEERS USE THEIR SCIENTIFIC SKILLS AND SPECIALIZED KNOWLEDGE TO HELP DESIGN, CONSTRUCT AND MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND. WHEREAS, ENGINEERING HAS BEEN CALLED THE INVISIBLE OR STEALTH PROFESSION BECAUSE EVERYTHING AROUND US AND THINGS WE USE EVERY DAY HAVE BEEN ENGINEERED IN SOME WAY, YET WE MAY NOT SEE THE ENGINEERS BEHIND THE SCENES.

AND. WHEREAS, FOUNDED IN 1951.

NATIONAL ENGINEERS WEEK TRADITIONALLY TIMED TO ENCOMPASS FEBRUARY 22ND, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL BIRTHDAY OF AMERICA'S FIRST ENGINEER, PRESIDENT GEORGE WASHINGTON IS DEDICATED TO ENSURING A DIVERSE AND WELL EDUCATED FUTURE ENGINEERING WORKFORCE BY INCREASING UNDERSTANDING OF ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY CAREERS.

AND. WHEREAS, THIS YEAR'S THEME IS CREATING THE FUTURE BY TEACHING OUR YOUTH HOW ENGINEERS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN INNOVATING SOLUTIONS TO GLOBAL CHALLENGES, AND BY WORKING TOGETHER TO DEVELOP NEW TECHNOLOGIES, PRODUCTS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I COUNCIL MEMBER TERESA ACOSTA, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 19 TO 20 FIFTH, 2023, AS NATIONAL ENGINEERS WEEK IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

GO AHEAD. MR.. RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER, AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO ACCEPT THAT PROCLAMATION AS YOUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND ALSO YOUR CITY ENGINEER.

AND SO I TOOK THIS WEEK TO REFLECT BACK ON WHAT ENGINEERING MEANS IN THIS NATION AND OF COURSE, IN OUR CITY.

AND I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT SHORT BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, I GET PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT ENGINEERING ISSUES AND SPECIFICALLY MOBILITY RELATED ISSUES.

BUT THERE IS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SCIENTISTS VERSUS WHAT ARE ENGINEERS.

AND I THINK THERE'S A GREAT STATEMENT THAT I CAME ACROSS FROM THEODORE VON KARMAN, AND IT'S SCIENTISTS STUDY THE WORLD, THAT IS, ENGINEERS CREATE THE WORLD THAT NEVER HAS BEEN.

SO THAT KIND OF SAYS IT.

SO I'LL TRY AND KEEP MY EXCITEMENT DOWN TO A MINIMUM IN RESPECT OF TIME.

BUT I DID RESEARCH A BIT AND THERE WAS A LOT OF COMPETITION BETWEEN NIKOLA TESLA AND THOMAS EDISON IN REGARDS TO THEIR INVENTIONS ON ELECTRICITY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S MR. FORD, WHO BROUGHT FORWARD THE MODEL A AND MADE CARS AVAILABLE TO THE COMMON FOLK OF AMERICA.

AND THEN MORE RECENTLY, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CURRENT EVENTS, THERE IS ELON MUSK, WHO IS JUST LAUNCHING ALL KINDS OF COMPANIES ENGINEERING RELATED.

AND I WISH HE WOULD FOCUS MORE ON ENGINEERING AND LESS ON COMMUNICATIONS.

BUT THAT GUY IS FUN TO WATCH.

AND SO THEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE LATEST HEADLINES OF THE CARLSBAD COMPANIES BECAUSE I'M ACCEPTING THIS ON BEHALF OF ALL THE ENGINEERS, NOT ONLY THAT RESIDE OR WORK IN CARLSBAD, BUT THAT VISIT CARLSBAD.

AND WE HAVE SOME FASCINATING, INNOVATIVE COMPANIES IN CARLSBAD.

VIASAT ANNOUNCED THAT THEY'RE LAUNCHING A SATELLITE TO COMPETE WITH COMPETE WITH SPACE X, AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER INNOVATIVE CARS OR OTHER INNOVATIVE COMPANIES THAT ARE PRODUCING SOLAR POWERED CARS SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY COMPETE AND BE MORE SUSTAINABLE THAN EVEN TESLA'S.

SO WITH THAT FOCUSED ON THE GREAT ENGINEERS THAT I GET TO WORK WITH, WE HAVE A SIMPLER TASK.

WE WE WORK ON THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE.

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SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION.

IT'S REALLY OUR PLEASURE TO BE SERVING YOU AND THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD AND WE REALLY ENJOY OUR SERVICE TO YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS PUBLIC

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED.

UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL OTHER NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.

AND WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, YOU COME UP AND SPEAK AT THE PODIUM.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES AT THE TWO AND A HALF MINUTE MARK WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.

IT'LL REMIND YOU TO START TO WRAP UP.

IT'LL TURN YELLOW. AND I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE END OF 3 MINUTES.

THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK.

CLERK. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, MAYOR JENNIFER SINCLAIR, FOLLOWED BY TJ CHILDS, PLEASE.

HELLO. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR SERVING.

I KNOW THAT IT IS SOMETIMES A DIFFICULT AND THANKLESS JOB.

IN MY OPINION. YOU ALL DON'T GET PAID ENOUGH EITHER.

AND ON THIS DAY OF LOVE AND GOOD WISHES, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU WERE APPRECIATED.

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY.

TJ CHILD.

HELLO, MAYOR. CITY MANAGER, CITY COUNCIL.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS TWO ISSUES.

THE FIRST IS IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF SINCE THE CITY ALLOTTED $160,000 FOR ADU BUILDABLE GREAT PLANS, AND SO FAR WE HAVEN'T HAD THEM. BUT THE CITY OF ENCINITAS DOES.

SO WHY CAN'T WE REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY WHERE MAYBE WE HAVE COST SHARING, WE CAN MAYBE PAY THREE OR $500 FOR THE PLANS AND THEY COULD GET TWO THIRDS AND WE CAN GET ONE THIRD. OR EVEN IF WE COULDN'T, IF WE COULD STILL GO TO THE CITY OF ENCINITAS BECAUSE BOTH CITIES BUILD TO THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE, THE ONLY SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IS A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE. THAT'S CITY SPECIFIC TO CARLSBAD AND OR ENCINITAS.

SO WHILE WE HAVE SPENT 160,000 AND HAVE NOTHING, THEY HAVE VARIOUS PLANS.

SO WHY CAN'T WE REACH ACROSS THE AISLE TO ALLOW FOR SOME TYPE OF PLANS FOR THE ADU SO THAT THE CITIZENS DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY TO DEVELOP PLANS SINCE THEY ALREADY HAVE BUILDABLE GREAT PLANS? THE SECOND IS SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VILLAGE AND BARROW MASTER PLAN, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP THE BUILDS AND BURIAL LIGHTING.

THERE'S BEEN SEVEN $7 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT, FOR THE LIGHTING AND THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES, 5 MILLION OF WHICH HAS BEEN SECURED BY CONGRESSMAN LEVIN. THE OTHER 2 MILLION HAS NOT BEEN BUDGETED FOR 20 FISCAL YEAR 24, BUT FISCAL YEAR 25.

SO THAT'S ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 27 MONTHS, WHETHER IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR OR THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR BEFORE THE PROJECT IS FUNDED.

I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT MAYBE WE CONSIDER BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE I LITERALLY WANT A SIDE OF THE STREET THAT HAS NO LIGHTS AND THEY KEEP SAYING, YOU KNOW, I'VE LIT MY PROPERTY, I HAVE I LIVE WITH WHERE THEY HAVE AN ALLEYWAY, I HAVE LIGHTS ON THE ALLEYWAY, I HAVE LIGHTS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, I HAVE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

ANYTHING A CITIZEN CAN DO, I'VE DONE, BUT I CAN'T PUT MUNICIPAL LIGHTING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

THAT'S ALL ON THE WEST SIDE OF MADISON.

AND THERE'S OTHER PARTS OF THIS, LIKE HARDING AND ROOSEVELT, WHERE THE LIGHTS ARE SO SPREAD OUT, IT'S VERY DARK.

SO JUST TO APPEAL THAT, WE MOVE THAT FUNDING UP.

THANK YOU. THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF THE SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

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DO WE HAVE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WISHING TO PULL A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM? THEN MOTION. PLEASE MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

I'M NOT ON.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[5. ORDINANCE NO. CS-446 - AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 2.18, CARLSBAD ARTS COMMISSION]

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 2.18 CARLSBAD ARTS COMMISSION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 1.20 MEETINGS AND CHAPTER 2.15 BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AS RECITED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SECOND, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS? NO SPEAKERS, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[6. ESTABLISHING HISTORIC PRESERVATION PERMIT APPLICATION FEES]

YES. THANK YOU, SIR. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS ESTABLISHING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PERMIT APPLICATION FEES, MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY AS OUR ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MIKE STRONG.

THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING OR A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC INPUT, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN ASKING COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION.

THAT SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. STRONG. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MIKE STRONG. I'M THE ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND WILL BE INTRODUCING THIS ITEM.

THE PROPOSED ACTION THIS EVENING IS TO CONSIDER THE ESTABLISHMENT OF FEES TO SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF TWO PROGRAMS. ONE IS FOR PROPERTIES TO BE LISTED IN A HISTORIC RESOURCE REGISTRY.

THE OTHER IS TO SUPPORT THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT PROGRAM.

FOR SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE IN NOVEMBER, EFFECTIVELY AMENDING TITLE 22 OF OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.

THAT IS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, AND AMONG OTHER THINGS, IT REAFFIRMED AND STRENGTHENED THE PROVISIONS FOR THE LOCAL REGISTRY AND THEN CREATED THAT TAX INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WHICH IS CALLED THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM.

NOW THAT THOSE TWO PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND WE ARE BEGINNING TO PROMOTE THE PROGRAMS, APPLICATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE RECEIVED THIS SPRING.

SO IF THE CITY IS GOING TO INSTITUTE A APPLICATION PROCESSING FEE, NOW IS THE TIME TO ADOPT THAT FEE.

IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING A RECOMMENDED FEE FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION APPLICATIONS.

CITY STAFF CALCULATED THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT COSTS INVOLVED WITH PROCESSING THE INTAKE REVIEW AND FILING AN APPLICATION TO THE DECISION MAKING BODIES, WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD BE A REFERRAL REVIEW BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND THEN FINAL ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO THE CUMULATIVE STAFF EFFORTS INVOLVED WITH PROCESSING THESE APPLICATIONS ARE VERY SIMILAR WITH OTHER LAND USE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

THAT INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS AN EXHIBIT TO THE STAFF REPORT TO JUSTIFY THE RATIONAL BASIS OF THE COST RECOVERY STRUCTURE THAT REFLECTS THE OVERALL WORK EFFORT REQUIRED TO PROCESS THE APPLICATIONS.

SO THE TRUE ACTUAL COST OF CITY SERVICES CITY COUNCIL CAN OF COURSE ADOPT A FEE THAT IS AT OR BELOW THAT FEE STRUCTURE.

IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE.

PARTICIPATION IN THE HIS CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAMS. STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING FEES THAT RECOVER PART, BUT NOT ALL OF THOSE CITY'S COST OF PROCESS APPLICATIONS FOR LOCAL REGISTER APPLICATIONS.

ALMOST ONE THIRD OF THE PLANNING COSTS WOULD BE BORNE BY THE APPLICANT, AND TWO THIRDS WOULD BE SUBSIDIZED BY THE GENERAL FUND.

FOR MILLS CONTRACT APPLICATIONS, 100% OF THE APPLICANT FEES WOULD BE COVERED AND BORNE BY THE PROJECT APPLICANTS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE SPECIAL SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE WITH ECONOMIC INCENTIVES, WHICH WOULD BE A LIMITED NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS SEEKING THOSE REDUCTIONS.

THE COST ALLOCATION PLAN PROPOSED IN THE RESOLUTION ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR FEE REDUCTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECTS WITH CONCURRENT APPLICATIONS, AND THAT STEMS FROM THE PROCESSING REQUIREMENTS OF HAVING ONE NOTICE FOR THE TWO ITEMS OR ONE MEETING FOR THE TWO ITEMS. SO ONE STAFF REPORT WOULD COVER BOTH OF THOSE.

APPLICATION PERMITS TYPES.

SO THE LEVEL OF EFFORT IS SUBSEQUENTLY REDUCED.

AND THEN THE RECOMMENDED FEE FOR PROCESSING BOTH CONCURRENT APPLICATIONS, A LITTLE OVER $4,300, AND THEN TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FULL COST TO PROCESS BOTH APPLICATION PERMITS SEPARATELY IS OVER 9000.

THE PROPOSED FEE FOR THE TWO APPLICATIONS PROCESS TOGETHER IS ABOUT 50% OF THAT COST.

THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

THEY RANGE FROM FULL COST RECOVERY, WHICH WOULD BE THE FULL COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICES TO BE BORNE BY THE APPLICANT, AND THAT WOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THE

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THE FULL COST RECOVERY COULD DISCOURAGE PARTICIPATION WHICH MAY REDUCE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE IS A PARTIAL COST RECOVERY WHICH IS EMBODIED IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION AS A RECOMMENDATION OF CITY STAFF.

THAT IS STRIKING A BALANCE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC BENEFITS AND THE PRIVATE PARTICIPATION COSTS.

THE GENERAL FUND WOULD SUBSIDIZE THE COST AMOUNT, THAT PARTIAL AMOUNT.

AND THEN THE THIRD IS NOT IMPOSING FEES OR WAIVING THE FEES WITHIN THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE BARRIERS OF PARTICIPATION.

AND IN THAT REGARD, THE GENERAL FUND WOULD ABSORB AND FULLY SUBSIDIZE THE FULL COSTS OF PROCESSING THE APPLICATIONS.

SUBSEQUENT TO THIS EVENING, SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE RESOLUTION? THE FEE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE WITHIN 60 DAYS, WHICH AGAIN ALIGNS WITH THE PROCESSING INTAKE IS BEING COORDINATED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT CONCLUDES STAT'S PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY WISH TO BE HEARD ON ITEM NUMBER SIX? AND AND I SEE NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGING.

SO I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

MS.. BHAT-PATEL SURE.

THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST BRIEFLY, I KNOW THE RECOMMENDED OPTION IS OPTION TO AND I JUST WANTED TO DO WE HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE AS TO HOW MUCH WOULD BE ABSORBED BY THE GENERAL FUND IN TERMS OF THE SUBSIDIZED COST? I MEAN, I'M GUESSING THERE'S MORE OF A RANGE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY APPLY.

BUT JUST CURIOUS ON IF WE HAVE SOME SORT OF ESTIMATE THAT IS ESTIMATED TO BE THE 90 OVER 9000.

OKAY. SO ANY SUBSIDY AMOUNT OR ANY REDUCED AMOUNT FROM THAT COST ALLOCATION WOULD BE THE SUBSIDY THAT THE CITY WOULD BE ABSORBING BY ITS GENERAL FUND.

AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY ACCOMMODATING FOR THE STAFF TIME INVOLVED WITH PROCESSING THOSE APPLICATIONS BASED ON PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN NOTIFIED ABOUT THE PROGRAM, I WOULD EXPECT TWO OR THREE APPLICATIONS TO BE FILED THIS BY JUNE 1ST OF THIS YEAR.

BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY SHOULD THE CITY BE MORE PROACTIVE WITH ITS OUTREACH, THAT MORE PARTIES WILL BE INTERESTED.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS DOING IS ENCOURAGING PARTICIPATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.

MR. COSTA. JUST A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY PROPERTIES WE THINK ARE GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE MILLS ACT, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT THIS ALL CAME ABOUT BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING TO SAVE A BEAUTIFUL OLD HOUSE IN CARLSBAD THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF PROTECTIONS, AND PEOPLE WERE WORRIED THAT IT WOULD BE TORN DOWN.

AND THESE RESIDENTS CAME TO US AT THE CITY AND THEY SAID, CAN YOU BUY THIS FOR US? AND WE WE DECIDED NOT TO, BUT WE SAID INSTEAD, THIS THIS APPEARS TO BE A REALLY GREAT OPTION TO HELP GIVE SOME KIND OF OFFSET TO SUBSIDIZE THE COST OF MAINTAINING AND KEEPING UP A BEAUTIFUL OLD STRUCTURE IN OUR CITY.

SO HOW MANY STRUCTURES DO YOU THINK THIS MIGHT AFFECT? I WILL TRY TO PROVIDE THIS IN A BRIEF RESPONSE, BUT CURRENTLY THERE ARE ABOUT 13 PROPERTIES ALREADY ON THE LOCAL RESOURCE REGISTRY AND ABOUT HALF OF THOSE ARE PRIVATELY OWNED. SO ONE OF THE QUALIFYING CRITERIA IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUILDING OR STRUCTURE.

SO THOSE SIX PROPERTIES WOULD AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFY FOR ELIGIBILITY IN THE PROGRAM.

IN 1991, THE CITY PERFORMED A CITYWIDE SURVEY, A WINDSHIELD SURVEY, TO DETERMINE STRUCTURES THAT MAY CONTRIBUTE TO A HISTORIC RESOURCE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY ARE HISTORIC, BUT IT WAS A QUICK LITMUS TEST TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPES OF PROPERTIES WERE IN THE CITY.

AND AT THAT TIME THERE ARE 350 PROPERTIES LISTED ON THAT INVENTORY.

A NUMBER OF THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE SINCE BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE OF BEING DEMOLISHED OR ALTERED OR SOME OTHER WAY OF MAINTENANCE FROM THE PROGRAM.

RECENTLY, THE CITY DID CONDUCT A GIS ANALYSIS OF THE ASSESSOR ATTRIBUTE DATA, THE AGE OF THE STRUCTURE, ORIGINAL BUILD OF THE STRUCTURE, AND THERE'S CLOSE TO 3000 PROPERTIES ON THAT LIST.

SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES INCLUDE MULTIPLE STRUCTURES SO THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THAT.

BUT THAT'S PROBABLY THE STARTING POINT FOR THESE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUALIFYING CRITERIA IS THE AGE OF THE STRUCTURE.

GREAT. THANK YOU. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS REALLY TRYING TO GET AT THE HEART OF WHETHER THIS PROPOSAL IS THE WAY THAT WE'VE STRUCTURED THIS PROGRAM IS WORKING TO HELP OR WILL WORK LIKE, DO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO HELP PRESERVE STRUCTURES? IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS AN OPTIONAL PROGRAM.

PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO APPLY.

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AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT I WOULDN'T FAVOR NOT SUBSIDIZING ANY FEES.

I THINK GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF ASSISTANCE TO GET INTO THE PROGRAM HELPS OUR CITY OVERALL MAINTAIN ITS CULTURAL ASSETS.

SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE SIZE OF THE PROGRAM.

WHAT ABOUT OTHER FEEDBACK THAT MAYBE WE DIDN'T HEAR HERE BECAUSE WE WE HAD NO PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, BUT ALONG THE PROCESS, HAVE WE HEARD FROM FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY DIRECTLY TO STAFF THAT THIS APPEARS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN WORK WITH? I BELIEVE WITH THE ROLLOUT OF ANY NEW PROGRAM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED.

AND ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WILL LIKELY INCLUDE ON THEIR DRAFT WORK PLAN TO SUBMIT TO CITY COUNCIL IS SOME SORT OF MONITORING PROGRAM OF THESE TWO NEW PROGRAMS, THE HISTORIC RESOURCE REGISTRY, AND ENCOURAGING PARTICIPATION TO FOR PRESERVATION.

AND THEN SEPARATELY, PRESERVATION BENEFITS SUCH AS THE MOSAIC PROGRAM.

SO I HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS WILL BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS TO DETERMINE THE STRENGTH OF THE PROGRAM AND ITS EFFECTIVENESS OVER TIME.

SO IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THERE MIGHT BE INFORMATION, UPDATES TO SUGGEST REVISIONS TO THE FEE STRUCTURE OR HOW WE'RE CONDUCTING OUTREACH TO RUN ITS EFFECTIVENESS.

WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY AND THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THINGS, ADAPT THE PROGRAM IF NEEDED AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND GET SOME KIND OF TWEAK TO THE PROGRAM WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE THE SOMEWHAT THE SUBSIDIZED BUT NOT FULLY COVERED OPTION BECAUSE OF THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT REALLY A QUESTION, BUT I CAN GIVE MY COMMENTS NOW IF YOU WANT.

YOU BEGIN. PLEASE. OKAY, I'LL BEGIN.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A D1 CENTRIC OFFERING BECAUSE WE HAVE MOST OF THE OLDER BUILDINGS AND HOMES IN THIS DISTRICT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT STAFF IS RECOGNIZING THAT YOU WANT TO INCENTIVIZE HOMEOWNERS TO USE THIS PROGRAM.

AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE, MS..

ACOSTA THAT, YEAH, SUBSIDIZING PART OF THAT MAKES SENSE IN THIS.

THE ONE THING THAT YOU JUST SAID THAT MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING IS THAT ON OUR COMPARISON OF FEES CHART, THERE IS NO MONITORING IN THERE.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT COME BACK SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT IN REAL LIFE.

SO IN REAL TIME. SO OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT ASSET THAT WE'RE OFFERING IN CARLSBAD, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE OFFERING THAT TO OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. MS. ACOSTA THANK YOU.

JUST ON THAT LAST POINT, I DID SEE SOMETHING HERE FOR MONITORING.

WAS THAT A DIFFERENT KIND OF A MONITORING THAT WAS IN THIS CHART HERE? AND I'M LOOKING AT PAGE TWO OF 16 IN THE REPORT IN THE SENSE OF THE WORD, THE MONITORING PROGRAM, IN TERMS OF ARE WE REACHING ENOUGH COMMUNITY RESIDENTS TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM? THAT'S GOING TO BE A SEPARATE INSTRUMENT THROUGH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION OR ON AN AD HOC BASIS, THROUGH MINUTE ACTION OF CITY COUNCIL TO RETURN WITH A REPORT.

THERE IS A MONITORING FOR COMPLIANCE ONCE A PROPERTY IS IN AN ACTIVE CONTRACT EVERY FIVE YEARS AFTER THE CONTRACT IS EXECUTED, THERE'S AN INSPECTION PROCESS THAT OCCURS AND AT THIS TIME WE DON'T KNOW THE LEVEL OF EFFORT INVOLVED WITH THOSE INSPECTION PROGRAMS. SO IT'S HARD TO PREDETERMINE WHAT THE COST OF THOSE SERVICES WOULD BE.

SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH CITY COUNCIL AT A FUTURE DATE.

GREAT. THANK YOU. AND ONE MORE QUESTION, BECAUSE THIS ALSO CAME UP BECAUSE OF HEARING MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE OLDER HOMES.

I LIVE IN A HOME THAT WAS BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES.

I CONSIDER AN OLDER HOME, BUT NOT ANTIQUE.

RIGHT? BECAUSE I WAS BORN IN THE SEVENTIES.

BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, WHEN DO THOSE THOSE AGE AGE OF STRUCTURE, WHEN DOES THAT SHIFT? SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT NOW? AND IS IT EVERY TEN YEARS THAT YOU DECIDE WHAT IS HISTORIC? AM I HISTORIC? IT IS A ROLLING NUMBER BECAUSE SOME OF THE QUALIFYING CRITERIA IS A STRUCTURE THAT AGE IS 50 YEARS OR OLDER.

SO AS TIME PASSES, THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE QUALIFYING PROPERTIES.

GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AS I SAID, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE SUBSIDIZED OPTION.

MS. BHAT-PATEL. I'LL BE SUPPORTING OPTION NUMBER TWO AND REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL WORKING ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST SOLUTION.

SO THANK YOU. MOTION, PLEASE.

SURE. SO MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE PARTIAL COST RECOVERY.

SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM SEVEN, CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

YES, SIR. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR THE SECOND QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 22-23.

[7. ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR THE SECOND QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2022-23]

GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, SCOTT.

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MATT SANFORD, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY.

AS SCOTT MENTIONED, THE ECONOMIC UPDATE, THE FINANCIAL UPDATE AND THE MID-YEAR BUDGET REVIEW.

THIS EVENING, THE TIME FRAME ANALYZED THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2022 OR SECOND QUARTER FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2022.

WE'LL LOOK AT SOME MACRO TRENDS AS WELL AS THEIR LOCAL IMPACT.

SO EVOLVING ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.

WHEN WE TALK WITH CARLSBAD, BUSINESSES TOP OF MIND RIGHT NOW, INFLATION, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LEADING TO HIGHER COST OF CAPITAL IN A TIGHT LABOR MARKET, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THREE THINGS THAT WE'RE HEARING MOST.

HOWEVER, DESPITE THAT UNCERTAINTY, CARLSBAD DID FINISH WITH QUITE A STRONG ECONOMY IN 2022.

WE ACTUALLY SAW A BIT OF A DECREASE OR DISINFLATION OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.

WE MAY BE PAST THE PEAK.

NOBODY CAN SAY FOR CERTAIN.

OVERALL, PRICES ARE STILL UP 1.8% OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS HERE IN SAN DIEGO.

OVER THE PAST YEAR, 6.4%.

THAT IS A DECREASE FROM THE PEAK, WHICH WAS ABOVE 8% EARLIER LAST QUARTER.

OVERALL, IN 2022, OUR ECONOMY GREW BY MORE THAN $1,000,000,000, ENDING AT 15.8 BILLION, WHICH IS GREAT.

LED BY MANUFACTURING EXCUSE ME, WHOLESALE TRADE, ACCOMMODATION AND FOOD SERVICES.

SO TOURISM, PROFESSIONAL, SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNICAL SERVICES.

SO OUR INNOVATION ECONOMY, WE DID HAVE ONE SECTOR THAT SHRANK, WHICH WAS MINING, QUARRYING AND GAS AND OIL EXTRACTION.

SO NOT NOT A MAJOR THING HERE IN CARLSBAD.

WE ENDED THE YEAR AT TWO AND 2.6% UNEMPLOYMENT, WHICH IS GREAT.

A VERY TIGHT LABOR MARKET.

HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THINGS THAT ARE PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE ECONOMY, WE MIGHT WANT TO SEE THAT LOOSEN A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE'LL KIND OF SEE HOW THAT GOES.

WE DO CONTINUE TO LEAD THE REGION AND THE STATE HERE.

A BIT OF A SOFTENING IN JOB POSTINGS AT 13,352.

NO SLOUCH OF A QUARTER.

HOWEVER, IT IS THE SECOND QUARTERLY DECREASE CONSECUTIVELY IN A ROW.

AVERAGE JOB SALARIES POSTED $46,800.

SO CONTINUED WAGE PRESSURE AS WELL.

WE TOUCHED ON TOURISM BRIEFLY LAST WEEK.

GREAT REBOUND YEAR.

I BELIEVE DAVID USED THE TERM REVENGE TRAVEL.

WE MAY NOT SEE THAT AS MUCH IN 2023.

WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR TOURISM FOLKS THAT THE PENT UP DEMAND MAY BE SUBSIDING AND THAT THERE'S REALLY AN INTEREST TO GET OUT INTERNATIONAL.

SO DOMESTIC TRAVEL MAY BE ON THE BACK BURNER A LITTLE BIT THERE.

HOWEVER, OVERALL, A GREAT YEAR IN 2022 FOR TRAVEL TO CARLSBAD.

A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE HAS RECOVERED TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS IN ALL FRONTS.

SO THAT'S BOTH. OFFICE.

SORRY. OFFICE. RETAIL AND INDUSTRIAL.

OUR INDUSTRIAL RATE AT 3.3% VERY TIGHT.

WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF ROOM IN OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK AND SO WE MAY SEE SOME DENSIFICATION IN OUR INDUSTRIAL PARKS.

RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE.

KIND OF EVENING OUT A LITTLE BIT.

JUST A BIT MORE OF A DROP THIS QUARTER.

MEDIAN HOME PRICES IN CARLSBAD AT $1.44 MILLION.

THAT'S STILL UP 37% OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

SO A BIT OF A HAIRCUT OFF THE TOP, BUT OVERALL, STILL DOING QUITE WELL.

BUSINESS LICENSE.

WE SAW A BIT OF A DECREASE THIS LAST QUARTER, ABOUT 109 COMPARED TO THE YEAR PRIOR.

WE ALSO SAW A LOT OF NEW BUSINESS START UPS DURING THE PANDEMIC.

AND SO AS PEOPLE GET BACK INTO REGULAR JOBS, WE MAY SEE SOME OF THOSE TAPER OFF A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR.

IN TERMS OF BUILDING PERMITS.

WE ARE STILL SEEING A GENERAL TREND OF INCREASE, INCREASING PERMITS ON THE HOME SIDE.

SO KEY TAKEAWAYS.

DESPITE WHAT MAY BE LOOMING AHEAD IN 2022, CARLSBAD'S ECONOMY REALLY THRIVED.

PRICES MAY BE STABILIZING, BUT INFLATION IS STILL A CONCERN.

WE'LL PROBABLY STILL SEE INCREASED MEASURES FROM THE FED TO CONSTRAIN THAT SUPPLY OF CAPITAL THERE.

MAJOR LAYOFFS. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THEM IN THE NEWS.

THEY HAVEN'T YET IMPACTED CARLSBAD OR HAVEN'T HIT CARLSBAD, WHICH IS GREAT.

WE'RE KEEPING OUR FINGERS CROSSED THERE.

AND THAT JOB TO LABOR RATIO REMAINS EXTREMELY TIGHT.

IT'S THE TIGHTEST IT'S BEEN IN MY LIFETIME.

SO SOMETHING THAT THAT WE'LL MONITOR THERE AS WELL.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ZACK.

GREAT. THANK YOU, MATT.

WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO GENERAL FUND REVENUES.

AND AS A REMINDER, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF FISCAL YEAR 22-23.

IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THIS SLIDE, WE HAVE THREE DATA POINTS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING.

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THE SECOND GREEN COLUMN REPRESENTS WHAT WE EXPECTED GENERAL FUND REVENUES TO COME IN AT THROUGH THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

AND THEN THE THIRD BLUE COLUMN REPRESENTS THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF GENERAL FUND REVENUES RECEIVED AS OF DECEMBER 31ST, 2022, AS WE CAN SEE ACROSS THE VARIOUS REVENUE CATEGORIES.

GENERAL FUND REVENUES THROUGH THE MID-YEAR HAVE EXCEEDED BOTH LAST YEAR'S ACTUALS AS WELL AS THIS YEAR'S EXPECTATIONS.

THERE IS ONE EXCEPTION AND THAT IS THE CATEGORY FOR OTHER TAXES.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW OF THESE REVENUE CATEGORIES ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO HERE WE HAVE SIMILAR INFORMATION PRESENTED NUMERICALLY.

AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF THE FISCAL YEAR GENERAL FUND REVENUES.

AND WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THE WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE BIG THREE BETWEEN PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX AND TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX TOGETHER.

IN ANY GIVEN FISCAL YEAR, THEY GENERALLY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROXIMATELY 80% OF TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUES.

IN TOTAL, THROUGH THE FIRST SIX MONTHS, REVENUES HAVE EXCEEDED THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR BY $9.4 MILLION OR 11%, AND THAT IS LARGELY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THOSE THREE MAIN REVENUE SOURCES.

PROPERTY TAXES HAVE INCREASED 3.5 MILLION OR 13%.

THAT'S DRIVEN BY INCREASED SUCCESS VALUES, AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN AIRCRAFT TAXES COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, SALES TAXES INCREASED 3% OR 900,000.

THE PRIMARY INDUSTRY GROUPS COMPRISING THAT INCREASE INCLUDE GENERAL RETAIL FOOD PRODUCTS, AS WELL AS THE TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY.

AND THEN THIRD AND FINALLY, TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX HAS INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY 21% OR $3.4 MILLION.

ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE I MENTIONED, THERE WAS ONE CATEGORY THAT DECREASED OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND THAT IS OTHER TAXES.

WITHIN THAT CATEGORY.

WE HAVE BUSINESS LICENSE TAXES AND IN FISCAL YEAR 2122, THERE WAS AN INCREASE VOLUME IN LATE PAYMENT PENALTIES THAT WERE ASSESSED RESULTING FROM COVID 19.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT THROUGH THE FIRST SIX MONTHS TO THE SAME EXTENT THIS YEAR, AND THAT'S WHAT'S RESULTING THAT DECREASE.

SO MOVING OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

BACK IN JUNE OF 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET AT $198.4 MILLION.

IT CURRENTLY, AS OF DECEMBER 31ST, HAS A WORKING BUDGET OF $229 MILLION.

SO THE QUESTION THAT COMES UP IS WHAT COMPRISES THAT $30 MILLION DIFFERENCE? THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS DIFFERENCE RELATES TO ANY CARRY FORWARD ENCUMBRANCES OR CARRY FORWARD APPROPRIATIONS THAT ARE AUTHORIZED BY BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER IN SOME SMALLER INSTANCES.

ALSO, ANY SEPARATE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZATIONS FOR ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION THROUGHOUT THE FIRST SIX MONTHS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THAT TO THAT DIFFERENCE THROUGH THE FIRST SIX MONTHS. AND LOOKING FORWARD FOR THE REMAINING SIX MONTHS, THERE IS $105 MILLION REMAINING OR 46% WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

AND THAT INCLUDES WE'RE FACTORING IN BOTH ACTUAL EXPENDITURES AS WELL AS ANY OPEN PURCHASE ORDER COMMITMENTS.

SO LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBRANCES, SIMILAR BAR CHART WHERE WE LOOKED AT GENERAL FUND REVENUES, THE FIRST ORANGE COLUMN, WE HAVE THE TOTAL WORKING BUDGET WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

THE SECOND GREEN COLUMN WE HAVE THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF ACTUAL EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBRANCES LAST FISCAL YEAR.

AND THEN THIRD, AND FINALLY THE BLUE COLUMN REPRESENTING THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF ACTUAL EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBRANCES THIS CURRENT YEAR, AS WE CAN SEE, AND THIS HAS BEEN CONSISTENT QUARTER OVER QUARTER AND YEAR OVER YEAR WHERE OUR EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBRANCES REMAIN RELATIVELY CONSISTENT.

AND WE CAN SEE THAT APPLIED IN BOTH THE PERSONNEL AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION BUDGETS.

LOOKING AT TRANSFERS OUT, THAT CAN TEND TO FLUCTUATE FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT, DEPENDING ON LARGELY RELATED TO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL FROM ONE TIME GENERAL FUND SURPLUS USES.

THAT GENERALLY COMES DURING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER OF A RESPECTIVE YEAR.

SO LOOKING AT MUCH OF THAT SAME INFORMATION NUMERICALLY, WE BREAK DOWN THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY CATEGORY.

AND AGAIN, THE MAIN TAKEAWAY HERE IS FOCUSING ON THOSE THOSE TOTAL LINE ITEMS AT THE BOTTOM.

TOTAL WORKING BUDGET OF $229 MILLION $106 MILLION IN TOTAL EXPENDITURES REPRESENTING 46% THAT HAS BEEN SPENT OR 54% REMAINING.

SO MOVING OVER TO SOME OF THE CITY'S ENTERPRISE FUNDS, STARTING WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER.

AND AGAIN, WE ARE COMPARING THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF WATER AND WASTEWATER PERFORMANCE COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR.

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THIS IS DRIVEN BY SLIGHT WATER RATE INCREASES THAT ARE OFFSET WITH A DECREASE IN WATER VOLUME SALES.

ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, THIS IS DRIVEN BY YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASES IN PERSONNEL AND CALPERS RETIREMENT COSTS, IN ADDITION TO MORE COSTLY WATER BEING PURCHASED FROM SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY FOR THE WASTEWATER FUND, REVENUES ARE UP JUST UNDER 20%.

THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE 20% RATE INCREASE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN MARCH OF 2022.

AND ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, UP JUST UNDER 1%.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GOLF COURSE, THE NET OPERATING INCOME IS $235,000 HIGHER THAN IT WAS AT THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME LAST YEAR.

AND THE MESSAGE HAS BEEN THE SAME.

EVERY QUARTER, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS CONTINUED DEMAND FOR GOLF AND HOW STRONG THE GOLF COURSE IS PERFORMING.

AND IN FACT, THAT CONTINUES TO BE THE CASE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING NOW AND PLANNING FOR IN THE FUTURE IS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT LEVEL OF DEMAND TAPERING OFF AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND ITS OPERATIONS.

WHAT WE'RE ALSO SEEING AT THE SAME TIME IS MORE OF A FULL RECOVERY AND A RETURN OF PRIVATE EVENTS SUCH AS WEDDINGS AND MAKING THAT FULL RETURN FROM COVID 19.

SO ANY ANTICIPATED LEVELING OR EVEN SLIGHT DECREASE IN THE DEMAND FOR GOLF IS LIKELY TO BE BACKFILLED OR SUPPLEMENTED WITH THOSE PRIVATE EVENTS AND THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED. IN TERMS OF THE NEXT STEPS ON THE FINANCIAL UPDATE SIDE, STAFF WILL OF COURSE CONTINUE TO MONITOR REVENUES AND EXPENSES EXPENDITURES. BE PUBLISHING THESE MATERIALS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND WILL NEXT BE BEFORE YOU.

IN MAY OF 2023 WITH THE THIRD QUARTER UPDATE AS WELL AS THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS NOT WRAP UP MY PRESENTATION YET.

WE HAVE ONE LAST SECTION AND THAT IS ON THE MID-YEAR BUDGET REVIEW.

EVERY YEAR STAFF CONDUCT A REVIEW OF DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS AND THIS IS USUALLY LED BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WITH GREAT COLLABORATION AND EFFORT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE CITY AS WELL.

AND WHAT'S CONDUCTED IS AN EVALUATION AND A REVIEW OF THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES TO DATE IN COMPARISON WITH WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED.

THE MID-YEAR BUDGET REVIEW WAS BASED ON THE FIRST FIVE MONTHS OF ACTUAL ACTIVITY IN FISCAL YEAR 22-23.

AND AS A RESULT OF THE REVIEW, SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS DID IDENTIFY BUDGET SAVINGS, MOSTLY WITHIN THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS EXPENDITURE CATEGORY.

THESE WERE IDENTIFIED IN NORMAL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS EXPENDITURES, THINGS LIKE CONTRACTED SERVICES AND SUPPLIES.

BUT ALSO A KEY COMPONENT OF THE MID-YEAR REVIEW WAS THE ANALYSIS OF SPENDING WITHIN DEPARTMENTS RESPECTIVE PERSONNEL BUDGETS.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR 2223 BUDGET WAS ADOPTED, IT INCLUDED A NEW LINE ITEM AND THAT WAS FOR VACANCY SAVINGS.

WE ACCOUNTED FOR $2 MILLION OF VACANCY SAVINGS RIGHT UP FRONT.

AND SO IT MADE IT THAT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT TO CONDUCT THIS REVIEW AND SEE WHERE THAT LEVEL OF BUDGET SAVINGS WAS TRENDING AT THE MIDPOINT.

AND IN FACT, THROUGH THE FIRST PAY PERIOD IN JANUARY OF 2023, THE GENERAL FUND HAD REALIZED APPROXIMATELY $1.3 MILLION IN VACANCY SAVINGS, WHICH INDICATES THAT, IN FACT, CONTINUING THOSE TRENDS WILL BE ABLE TO HIT THAT $2,000,002 MILLION VACANCY SAVINGS TARGET BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THERE IS ONE YEAR OR ONE MID-YEAR BUDGET REQUEST SUBMITTED BY PUBLIC WORKS AND FLEET FLEET DIVISION.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR THE EARLY REPLACEMENT OF ONE AMBULANCE IN FLEET.

THIS WOULD RESULT IN AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION OF $330,000.

BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE OR EVEN FUTURE IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND BY APPROVING THIS.

THIS EARLY REPLACEMENT OF THE AMBULANCE WILL DO A FEW THINGS.

IT WILL NOT ONLY MINIMIZE LEAD TIMES IN DELIVERY, BUT ALSO LOCK IN CURRENT PRICING AND AVOIDING ANY POTENTIAL MANUFACTURING MANUFACTURE DELAYS.

SO THIS DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.

AS FOR THE NEXT STEPS, IT WOULD BE ADOPTING A RESOLUTION APPROVING THIS ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION AND ACCEPTING THE MID-YEAR MID-YEAR REVIEW REPORT AS WELL AS THE FINANCIAL UPDATE. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THERE SPEAKERS? I'M SORRY, THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

START WITH MS. BURKHOLDER.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT THOROUGH REPORT, GUYS.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ON PAGE 28, THE VERY LAST PAGE, IT SAYS THAT THERE WAS AN 8.8% INCREASE IN EXPENSES,

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YOU'RE WITH ME. OKAY. SORRY.

READ THE WHOLE PARAGRAPH.

WHAT DOES THAT REALIZE? THAT POINT 8%? WHAT IS THAT RAW NUMBER? THE POINT 8% REPRESENTS 66,000.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR DOING THE MATH FOR ME.

AND THEN I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH THE SAVINGS THAT WE ARE REALIZING NOW AT $1.3 MILLION, PERHAPS WE DON'T NEED THOSE VACANCIES FILLED.

POTENTIALLY. THAT'S ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION WHEN THE CITY HISTORICALLY HAS BUDGETED FOR PERSONNEL IT BUDGETS, EXPECTING FULL VACANCIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND BUDGETING AND ACCOUNTING FOR THOSE VACANCIES VERY DIFFICULT TO PREDICT.

WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHEN AN EMPLOYEE IS GOING TO DEPART FROM THE CITY.

AND ALSO FILLING THOSE VACANCIES CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT.

SO ALTHOUGH WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO REALIZE SAVINGS FOR A NINE MONTH PERIOD, RIGHT, IF WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTIES IN FILLING A PARTICULAR POSITION, THAT CERTAINLY DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THERE'S NO LONGER A NEED.

BUT A REVIEW AND EVALUATION FOR ALL VACANCIES IS ALWAYS CONSIDERED.

YES, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DECREASE SERVICES FOR ANY LEVELS.

SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOGICAL THING TO LOOK AT.

THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

I DO HAVE COMMENTS. MS. ACOSTA YES, THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR THE EXCELLENT REPORT.

LOTS OF GREAT NEWS IN HERE, ACTUALLY, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE EARLIER TODAY I GOT THIS BREAKING NEWS ALERT ON MY PHONE FROM THE SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE ABOUT INFLATION BEING HIGHER IN SAN DIEGO THAN OTHER AREAS BECAUSE OF THE GAS PRICE INCREASES.

SO I KNOW THAT PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE HURTING AND PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING TO US AND TELLING US ABOUT IT.

SO WE'RE EXPERIENCING THIS REAL TIME AT THE STORE WHEN WE WHEN WE BUY NORMAL THINGS IN OUR LIVES.

WE KNOW THAT THIS IS HAPPENING AND WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THAT.

SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT WE ARE HEALTHY.

I THINK SOME OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS REALLY CAREFUL ESTIMATES AND PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.

SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO OUR STAFF FOR COMING UP WITH SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

ALONG THOSE LINES. I DO WANT TO ASK JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

WHEN THE LATE BUSINESS LICENSE TAXES THAT WORK, THOSE LATE FEES, BECAUSE I DID SEE IT SEEMED LIKE TWO DIFFERENT AREAS.

ON PAGE THREE OF THE REPORT, I SAW AN AREA THAT HAD LICENSE FEES SEPARATED OUT FROM SOMETHING CALLED INTERGOVERNMENTAL.

AND I WAS WONDERING, THIS IS FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PAGE THREE OF 28.

AND THAT SEEMED TO BE REALLY THOSE MINUS NUMBERS SEEM TO BE UNDER OTHER TAXES, BUT IT WAS SEPARATE FROM LICENSES AND PERMITS, WHICH SAW AN INCREASE OF 26%. YOU SEE WHERE I'M WHERE I'M LOOKING ON THAT CHART.

AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS, OTHER TAXES VERSUS LICENSES AND PERMITS ON THAT PAGE.

YES. WITHOUT SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT GETS INCLUDED IN THE OTHER TAXES CATEGORY.

I WILL SAY THAT THE OTHER LICENSES AND PERMITS.

WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A CATEGORY.

AND IF YOU'RE SEEING THE -20% THAT IS INCLUDED IN LICENSES AND PERMITS CATEGORY, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES BUILDING PERMITS, WHICH HAD A 44% GAIN.

SO. AND IF I'M ADDRESSING YOUR QUESTION SUFFICIENTLY, IS IT REALLY JUST BECAUSE I MENTIONED THE ONLY CATEGORY THAT DECREASED WAS OTHER TAXES? YES.

BUT WE'RE SEEING OTHER CATEGORIES THAT ALSO DECREASE.

SO, YES, THERE WERE OTHER, WE'LL CALL THEM SUB CATEGORIES, THAT DID DECREASE.

BUT IN THEIR LARGER CATEGORY, THEY DID INCREASE.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

OVERALL, THE PICTURE IS REALLY, REALLY HEALTHY.

AND THESE ARE JUST KIND OF NITPICK LITTLE THINGS.

BUT BECAUSE THE PICTURE HAS BEEN SO HEALTHY OVER THE PAST YEAR AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE GOLF COURSES, I WANT TO ASK YOU AGAIN, DO WE HAVE, I KNOW I ASKED THIS LAST TIME, DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF UPDATE ABOUT THE REPAYMENT FROM THE GOLF COURSE, OUR MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE TO THE CITY FOR THE LOANS THAT WE GAVE THEM? SO AT THIS TIME, THERE IS NO PLAN.

THAT'S PART OF THIS ITEM REQUIRING CITY COUNCIL ACTION.

WE'RE STILL DEVELOPING MUCH OF WHAT I HAD TALKED ABOUT IN A PREVIOUS MEETING REGARDING EITHER A POLICY OR AN ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER OR, IF NOTHING ELSE, A PROCEDURE THAT WOULD REALLY GOVERN AND DRIVE THAT REPAYMENT PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER FUNDS THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED RESERVES FOR, WE WOULD DO

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AND I BELIEVE I SPOKE TO THIS AS PART OF THE FIRST QUARTER FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC UPDATE.

ONE OF THE PRIMARY GOALS IN DOING THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT THAT THE GOLF COURSE NEED NOT RELY ON THE GENERAL FUND IN THE FUTURE.

SO ESTABLISHING THAT RESERVE AND FOCUSING ON OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL WITHIN THE GOLF COURSE TAKES THAT FIRST PRIORITY.

BUT AGAIN, EXACTLY TO YOUR POINT, ANY ADDITIONAL RESERVE OR EXCESS THAT RESULTS AT THAT POINT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR REPAYMENT.

GREAT. THANK YOU. WE'VE JUST BEEN HEARING ABOUT HOW WELL THE MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN DOING.

ALL GOLF IS DOING REALLY WELL RIGHT NOW SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.

AND PEOPLE TOOK UP GOLF AS AN OUTDOOR SPORT THAT HAD PHYSICAL DISTANCING.

SO WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING WELL.

AND I REMEMBER THE SAME YEAR THAT WE CHANGED THE ACCOUNTING LANGUAGE TO TRANSFER, WE ALSO TOOK MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO REPLACE AND UPDATE OLD BRAND NEW ELECTRIC GOLF CARTS. SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING THAT THAT HAPPENED JUST A YEAR AGO.

AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN FIND SOME KIND OF WAY OF ESTABLISHING THAT RESERVE SO THAT THEY CAN PAY FOR THEIR OWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OR THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT TURNOVER AND ALSO LOOK AT REPAYMENT.

SO THANK YOU.

I WANT TO KEEP REMINDING US TO KEEP THAT AT THE FOREFRONT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT.

WE DON'T WANT TO JUST GIVE THAT MONEY AWAY.

WHEN IT WAS A LOAN, IT WAS INTENDED ALWAYS TO BE A LOAN.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

EXCELLENT REPORT. THANK YOU.

MS. BHAT-PATEL? YES. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR WHEN WE COME BACK AROUND.

SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAD PROJECTED TO HAVE SPENT MORE THAN WE ACTUALLY DID. SO WE'VE HAD THE ABILITY, I THINK, FROM WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE ABOUT.

TO SAVE. QUOTE UNQUOTE, 9.4 MILLION FROM WHAT WE HAD PROJECTED.

WAS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD SHARED WAS WE HAVE ABOUT 9.4 MILLION AND.

OF THAT OR SORRY NOT SAVE RECEIVED ABOUT 9.4 MILLION.

YEAH I WROTE IT DOWN WRONG BUT 9.4 MILLION MORE FROM TOT PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUES GREAT AND THEN HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE OUTLOOK? I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE OUTLOOK AND THE LINES CROSSING.

AND FOR WE OBVIOUSLY THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THAT IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO GIVEN THAT WE HAVE 9.4 MILLION FROM JUST THIS.

REPORT THAT WE JUST RECEIVED, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR NUMBERS MOVING FORWARD? IT DOES IMPACT THE FORECAST POSITIVELY.

WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR 22-23 BUDGET WAS ADOPTED, WE DID APPLY A STRONG AMOUNT OF CONSERVATISM SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE CATEGORIES THAT ARE MORE SENSITIVE TO ECONOMIC TRENDS, SALES TAX, TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX AND THE LIKE.

AND WHAT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS IS THAT INFLATION HAS ONLY BOOSTED ITS PERFORMANCE, RIGHT? THERE HASN'T BEEN THAT ADJUSTMENT IN CONSUMER BEHAVIOR RESPONDING TO THOSE INFLATIONARY INCREASES.

ALL THAT REALLY MEANS, YES, IT IS VERY POSITIVE AND IT AND IT HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR ON OUR FUTURE OUTLOOK.

BUT IT ALSO MEANS THAT WE'RE THAT MUCH CLOSER TO THESE INFLATIONARY INCREASING INFLATIONARY INCREASES, HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR REVENUE SOURCES. SO IT WILL IMPACT THE NUMBERS AND THE PROJECTIONS POSITIVELY.

AND WE'RE ADMITTEDLY STILL FIGURING EVERYTHING OUT.

WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET PROCESS AS WE SPEAK AND AS WE WORK OVER THE NEXT THREE MONTHS AND DELIVER THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET TO COUNCIL, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER PICTURE IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR PROPOSED APPROPRIATIONS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND IT WILL BE AT THAT POINT THAT WE'LL HAVE A BETTER ABILITY TO PROJECT FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

BUT FOCUSING ON THE REVENUES, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT'S REALLY DOING IS IT IS IT'S ADJUSTING OUR OUR BASE YEAR FORECAST.

WHERE DO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO START YEAR ONE AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN GOING FORWARD? IT MAY NOT HAVE THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT IN YEAR TWO OR YEAR THREE.

IT'S JUST WHERE WE STARTING.

SO WE STILL BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SOME CHALLENGES AND A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY IN REGARDS TO INFLATION AND ITS IMPACTS.

YEAH. AND FROM WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

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BUT I'M HOPING, FINGERS CROSSED, THAT IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE POSITIVE.

IT MIGHT NOT BE AS POSITIVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HOPEFULLY A BIT MORE POSITIVE GIVEN THAT I MEAN, YES, IT IS.

INFLATION IS OBVIOUSLY A FACTOR, BUT $9.4 MILLION IS QUITE A CHUNK OF CHANGE.

SO AND THEN ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES THAT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE ABOUT $104.6 MILLION LEFT OF OUR BUDGET THAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR LEFT OVER.

SO ABOUT 46%.

DO WE HAVE, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN TERMS OF OUR BUSINESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS? DO WE HAVE ANY PROJECTIONS AS TO WHAT WE FEEL WE WOULD HAVE IN SURPLUS? AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO COMMENT TOTALLY, FINE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT.

YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I'M GUESSING YOU DON'T WANT TO, BUT THIS IS IT'S A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.

SURE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TAKING A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH IN IN OUR POSITIONING, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS GET THIS WRONG IN OUR APPROACH AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, JUST KIDDING.

WE'VE GOT TO DO A BUNCH OF LAYOFFS.

WHEN I SAY A BUNCH OF LAYOFFS, AGAIN, AS IT LOOKS TODAY, WE ARE NOT CONTEMPLATING LAYOFFS AGAIN.

ALSO, AS ZACK HAD PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE ARE GOING ABOUT THIS BUDGET THE WAY WE DO IN KIND OF ALL OF OUR WORK, WHICH IS FOCUSED ON CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.

AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.

WE DO KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED AS I THINK ALL OF OUR ALL EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS ALL OF YOU ARE HOPEFUL THAT FOR BETTER TIMES AHEAD.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ALSO REALISTS.

SO THANK YOU.

AND FOR THE TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL STOP AND THEN I'LL HAVE COMMENTS WHENEVER IT'S MY TURN.

BUT FOR THE OTHER CATEGORY, FOR THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, COULD YOU JUST GO INTO MAYBE JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES? I KNOW WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, WHAT THAT GENERALLY ENTAILS.

LARGELY THAT WOULD INCLUDE CAPITAL OUTLAY.

AND WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, AND I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF EXPENDITURES HAD FAR EXCEEDED THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND THAT WAS LARGELY IN PART DUE TO CAPITAL OUTLAY AND APPROPRIATION AUTHORIZATIONS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE LAST CLARIFYING QUESTION WOULD BE, I KNOW WE MENTIONED THAT WE NEED AN AMBULANCE REPLACED.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE NO NET IMPACT FISCALLY CURRENTLY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. GREAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF INCOME WE'RE GETTING FROM SALES TAX, TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX AND PROPERTY TAXES.

SALES TAX. WE GET 1% OF THE AMOUNT THAT PEOPLE PAY IN SALES TAX.

IS THAT RIGHT? ROUGHLY ABOUT 13% WHEN IT'S ALL DONE.

SO THE SALES TAX, THE TAX ASSESSED ON THE SALE OF GOODS WOULD BE 7.75% AND WE GET ABOUT 1% OF THAT.

OKAY. SO WE GET 1% ON THAT SEVEN THREE QUARTERS.

WHEN WE GET THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX, WE GET TO RETAIN ALL OF THAT AS A CITY, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE FULL 10%, WHEN PEOPLE PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, HOW MUCH OF THAT PROPERTY TAX BILL IS RETAINED BY CARLSBAD? OF THE APPROXIMATE 1% OF THE ASSESSMENT, THE CITY WOULD RETAIN, I BELIEVE, APPROXIMATELY 13%.

SO IF I PAY $1,000 IN PROPERTY TAXES, ABOUT $130 WILL STAY IN CARLSBAD.

I BELIEVE, GIVE OR TAKE, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD A GOOD ESTIMATE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE WASTEWATER FUND AND THE WATER FUND.

WATER FUND WASN'T DOING QUITE AS WELL AS THE WASTEWATER FUND.

THESE ARE TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE FUNDS.

ONE CANNOT BE USED TO SUBSIDIZE THE OTHER.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IF WE'RE DOING WELL IN ONE, THEN YOU COULD JUST TRANSFER THE MONEY AND THAT IS NOT ALLOWED. THAT'S TRUE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MID-YEAR REVIEW AND YOU SAID WE HAD SOME SAVINGS IN MAINTENANCE.

WE'RE NOT DEFERRING MAINTENANCE JUST TO HAVE A SAVINGS, ARE WE? NO, THAT'S CORRECT.

OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, WE REFER TO THAT OR M&O, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

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SO ANY, I'LL SAY MISCELLANEOUS, COSTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR DEPARTMENTS TO CARRY OUT THEIR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS.

BUT NO, WHEN WE SAY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SAVINGS IDENTIFIED, THAT WAS NOT A RESULT OF DEFERRING ANY ANY MAINTENANCE ON CITY FACILITIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMENTS. WE'LL START WITH MS. BHAT-PATEL. OKAY, GREAT.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I FEEL LIKE GETTING THESE UPDATES ARE SO BENEFICIAL FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND FOR US AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, JUST SEEING HOW TOURISM HAS BOUNCED BACK IS REALLY EXCITING GIVEN THAT WE HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN TERMS OF CONTINUING TO BUILD OUR ECONOMIC OUTLOOK.

AND JUST IN GENERAL, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I NOTICED IN THIS REPORT.

OUR GROSS REGIONAL PRODUCT IS $15.8 BILLION, WHICH WHEN YOU SEE THAT, IT'S DEFINITELY GROWN QUITE A BIT IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE AND JUST FROM THE LAST YEAR, $1.07 BILLION.

SO THAT'S GREAT AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK JUST NEEDS TO BE HIGHLIGHTED.

ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY NOTABLE IS THAT WE HAVE A HIGHER PROPORTION OF PATENTS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AS COMPARED TO SOME OTHER AREAS THAT ARE INNOVATIVE, LIKE SAN JOSE AND BOSTON AND OTHERS WITHIN CALIFORNIA.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE'RE CLEARLY ON THE CUTTING EDGE IN TERMS OF MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

JUST OVERALL, OBVIOUSLY, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR FOR CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THIS.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ECONOMICALLY, HOW WELL OUR OUR CITY IS DOING, HOW HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OBVIOUSLY MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BEING FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE AND RESPONSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN DO SO IN A WAY THAT CONTINUES TO MAKE US ONE OF THE BEST CITIES IN THE REGION.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

MS. ACOSTA? GREAT, THANK YOU. I SHARED EARLIER HOW HOW I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND FOR SHARING THIS GREAT REPORT.

ALL OF THE CUSHION THAT WE BUILD IN ALL OF THE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES THAT WE BUILD IN RESULT IN BEING HAPPILY SURPRISED WHEN THINGS GO VERY WELL. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE CONSERVATIVE AND CAREFUL AND VERY DISCIPLINED WITH OUR SPENDING BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING. AND SOME OF THE INDICATORS OUT THERE ARE PRETTY SCARY.

WE SEE NOT JUST INFLATION, BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE PROPERTY TAXES, HAVE BEEN ON THE RISE.

AND WE KNOW THAT OUR HOME VALUES, OUR AVERAGE HOME VALUES ARE VERY HIGH, BUT HOME SALES ARE SLOWING AGAIN BECAUSE INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE UP AND PEOPLE AREN'T ABLE TO AFFORD A LOAN. SO AND SAME WITH SALES TAXES.

YOU KNOW, INFLATION'S UP, PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEND AS MUCH.

SO THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS OUT THERE THAT CAN AFFECT WHAT WE DO.

AND WE LEAVE IT TO YOU, ALL THE EXPERTS TO HELP US AND ADVISE US ON THE COUNCIL SO THAT WE COULD SET THE BUDGET AND SET GREAT POLICY.

WHENEVER WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ON SPENDING, ON ANYTHING, WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THESE MANY FACTORS THAT CREATE THIS COMPLEX SCENARIO THAT WE'RE WORKING IN. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

AND AND I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE I'M SPEAKING TO AT THIS TABLE HERE.

IT'S REALLY EVERYONE.

IT'S OUR CITY MANAGEMENT. IT'S EVERY EMPLOYEE, EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT LOOKS AT COST CUTTING AND SAVING AND TRYING TO BE AS SMART AND FISCALLY DISCIPLINED AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK TO EVERYONE.

A BROADER THANK YOU.

AND AS FOR THE AMBULANCE PURCHASE, I ALSO AGREE THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I DO THINK THAT PURCHASING SOME THINGS AHEAD OF TIME WHEN WE KNOW THE PRICES ARE ON THE RISE, PRICES OF CARS ARE GOING UP.

BUYING AN AMBULANCE, WHICH IS A VERY SPECIAL VEHICLE EARLY, WILL HELP US LOCK IN A LOWER PRICE.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES ARE REAL.

WHEN WE ORDER SOME BIG CUSTOMIZED ITEMS, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET THEM.

SO AUTHORIZING THAT PURCHASE AND PLACING THE ORDER NOW WILL LOCK US IN FOR A BETTER DEAL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT ON TIME.

SO I ALSO AM SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

THANK YOU. MS. BURKHOLDER? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.

AND I ALWAYS LOVE YOUR GUYS REPORT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY GRAPHICS AND THEY'RE FUN TO READ AND SORT OF DELVE INTO.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT LOTS OF WORK GOES INTO THIS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON TRACK, AS THEY SAY IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF TIME.

SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO FIND OURSELVES IN THAT AND NOT DIP INTO THAT RED ZONE LIKE WE'VE BEEN SEEING PROJECTIONS.

THERE'S NOT ONE ECONOMIST THAT I FOLLOW THAT HAS ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT THE FUTURE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

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AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE DO NEED TO BE FISCAL CONSERVATIVES AT THIS JUNCTURE.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPEND ON PERSONNEL, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE'RE GEARED TOWARD BUILDING AN ARMY AND NOT ASSETS IN THIS CITY.

AND AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE ASSETS TO SUPPORT THE ARMY.

SO FOR ME, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL BE THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE BUILD THOSE ASSETS SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN A ROBUST STAFF AND HAVE ALL THE WONDERFUL EMPLOYEES THAT PROVIDE TOP NOTCH SERVICES IN CARLSBAD.

AND SO AS FOR ME, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE AMBULANCE AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING AHEAD AGAIN ON THAT AND KNOWING THAT, LIKE MY COLLEAGUE SAID, PRICES ARE ONLY GOING UP. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

MS. BHAT-PATEL, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? YES, I FORGOT TO MENTION THE SUPPORT OF THE AMBULANCE AS WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT KNOWING THAT WE HADN'T ADDED ONE IN GOSH KNOWS HOW LONG, WE ONLY HAD THREE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

AND NOW THAT WE HAVE FOUR, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN THOSE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN HOW OFTEN THEY'RE UTILIZED.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND WE'LL BE SUPPORTING THAT.

THANK YOU. AND WILL YOU MAKE A MOTION FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION FOR THE AMBULANCE? SO MOVED. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CITY MANAGER,

[8. AMENDMENT NO. 3 TO AN AGREEMENT WITH LPA, INC. FOR THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION/REPLACEMENT PROJECT (CIP PROJECT NO. 4724, CONCEPT 3)]

FOR THE MONROE STREET POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT PROJECT, WHICH IS CIP PROJECT NUMBER 4724 CONCEPT 3.

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR KYLE LANCASTER, AND ACCOMPANYING HIM IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER, JOHN MASSOF.

THANK YOU, MR. MANAGER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ATTORNEY AND CLERK.

AS MANAGER TITLED WE HAVE A PROJECT UPDATE FOR YOU ON THE NURSERY POOL RENOVATION AND REPLACEMENT.

RECOMMENDED ACTION TONIGHT WILL BE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE TO THE AGREEMENT WITH LPA, INC.

TO DEVELOP DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE NURSERY POOL RENOVATION REPLACEMENT PROJECT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

PROJECT NUMBER 4724 CONCEPT 3.

AND TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL ENTAIL A BRIEF PROJECT BACKGROUND AGREEMENT AMENDMENT DETAILS, A BUDGET RECAP.

AND FINALLY, NEXT STEPS SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO AUTHORIZE THIS AMENDMENT? REGARD TO THE BACKGROUND OF THE FACILITY WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1982.

SO WE'RE 40 YEARS OLD NOW.

IT WAS LAST RENOVATED IN 2009.

RENOVATION AND REPLACEMENT WORK IS NEEDED TO REMAIN COMPLIANT WITH HEALTH AND BUILDING CODES.

AND WE PUT TOGETHER A GRAPHIC HERE FOR YOU THAT WILL SHOW YOU THE MORE RECENT PROJECT RELATED HISTORY.

AND SO STARTING IN 2017, MR. MASSOF AND HIS TEAM CONSULTED FOR A FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT STUDY THAT WAS COMPLETED AND AGAIN WAS IDENTIFIED AS A NUMBER OF DEFICIENCIES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

IN APRIL 2019, WE BROUGHT AN AGREEMENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR EXECUTION, AND THAT WAS WITH LPA SERVICES.

IN FEBRUARY 2020, WE TOOK THREE DESIGN CONCEPTS OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

SO LPA CREATED THREE DESIGNS RANGING FROM ESSENTIALLY BASIC RENOVATION AND REPAIR THROUGH MORE EXTENSIVE EXPANSION AND UPGRADE OF THE FACILITY, INCLUDING ENERGY EFFICIENT MEASURES.

SO THOSE THREE CONCEPTS WERE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC, AND THOSE THAT RESPOND TO THE SURVEY WANTED TO GO WITH CONCEPT THREE THE MORE EXTENSIVE OF THE PROJECTS.

SO IN JANUARY 2021, WE BROUGHT THAT INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL WITH THE FULL DESCRIPTION OF EACH OF THOSE CONCEPTS, AND THE COUNCIL LIKEWISE DIRECTED STAFF TO PURSUE CONCEPT THREE AND TO PLACE A MEASURE ON THE BALLOT RELATED TO PROPOSITION H AND SPENDING MORE THAN $1,000,000 OF GENERAL FUND ON THIS PROJECT.

NOW, IN MAY OF 2021, WE EXTENDED THE AGREEMENT WITH LPA TO ALLOW TIME FOR THAT BALLOT MEASURE TO TAKE PLACE.

MOVING ON INTO MARCH OF 2022, THE COUNCIL HELD A STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP TO PRIORITIZE MAJOR PROJECTS SUCH AS

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AND IN OCTOBER OF THAT SAME YEAR, COUNCIL ADOPTED THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES THE MONROE STREET POOL PROJECT.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO NOVEMBER 2022 OR THE BALLOT MEASURE WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.

AND OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, MR. MADOFF'S TEAM AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A NEGOTIATED PROPOSAL FROM LPA TO DEVELOP THESE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. SO WHAT ALL IS CONCEPT THREE ENTAIL QUITE A BIT.

AND I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THE BOLTS VERY QUICKLY.

EXPANSION OF THE POOL ITSELF, ABOUT 50% MORE LANES AND IT'LL BE A REGULATION WATER POLO SIZE AT THAT POINT.

NEW EIGHT FOOT TALL WALL WITH SOLID GATES ALONG MONROE STREET FRONTAGE.

AND THAT'S FOR SOUND ATTENUATION IN PARTICULAR.

LARGER POOL DECK WITH LOCKERS, NEW DECK SHOWERS, RENOVATED LOCKER ROOMS, MORE SHADE STRUCTURES, MORE BLEACHERS, SLIGHTLY LARGER PARKING LOT, NEW OUTDOOR ENTRANCE TO THE FACILITY, RECONFIGURED LOBBY AND OFFICES.

AND THEN ALSO IN THAT BUILDING, NEW LIFEGUARD AND FIRST AID ROOM AND A MEETING OR EVENT ROOM FOR THE COMMUNITY.

ADDITIONALLY, IN REGARDS TO THE POOL ITSELF, REPLACEMENT OF THE POOL TILE OR THE PLASTER, THE PIPING, THE DECK DRAINAGE AND THE PUMPS, A NEW BUILDING WHICH WILL HOUSE THE MECHANICAL ROOM AND FAMILY RESTROOMS AND THEN SEPARATE ACCESS FOR SERVICE VEHICLES TO THAT NEW MECHANICAL ROOM.

AND INSTALLATION OF ROOFTOP SOLAR FOR THOSE ENERGY EFFICIENT BENEFITS THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER.

AND ENHANCEMENT OF THE EQUIPMENT STORAGE SPACE.

AND THEN FINALLY, COMPLIANCE WITH PROVISIONS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT I REFERENCED, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT STORAGE OVER HERE, FAMILY RESTROOMS, LIFEGUARD, FIRST AID EXPANSION, ADDITIONAL LOCKERS AND EQUIPMENT ROOMS. THIS IS THE RECONFIGURED LOBBY AND ADMINISTRATIVE AREA HERE AND ALSO THE MULTIPURPOSE MEETING ROOM AS WELL.

IT'S REFERENCED AS HERE, WHICH I ALSO CALLED A MEETING AND EVENT ROOM FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND THEN THIS IS THE NEW BUILDING OVER HERE, WHICH WILL HOUSE ALL THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT REFERRED TO AS A PUMP ROOM AND THE FAMILY RESTROOM AND SHOWERS.

MOVING INTO THE AGREEMENT ITSELF.

AGAIN, STAFF HAVE WORKED WITH LPA FOR FOUR YEARS NOW.

WE FOUND THEM TO BE VERY RESPONSIVE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THIS FIELD.

AS I MENTIONED, STAFF HAS NEGOTIATED A REASONABLE INCREASE IN SERVICES AND TIME TO DEVELOP THE PLANS AND SPECS.

SPECIFIC TO THE BUDGET FUNDING IS ALREADY SET ASIDE FOR THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN WORK.

SO WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING AT THIS TIME.

FUNDING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT HAS NOT YET BEEN IDENTIFIED.

AS OF APRIL 2022, THE ESTIMATED TOTAL PROJECT COSTS WAS IN THE RANGE OF 22 TO $24 MILLION, AND THAT WAS REFERENCED ON THE BALLOT MEASURE LANGUAGE.

SO NEXT STEPS.

IF COUNCIL AUTHORIZES, THIS AMENDMENT WILL BE TO DIRECT LPA TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECTS, PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS TO THEN UPDATE THE PROJECT'S TOTAL COST ESTIMATE BASED ON THOSE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS.

AND THEN TO RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE PLANS AND SPECS AS WELL AS THAT UPDATED COST ESTIMATE AND SEEK FURTHER DIRECTION.

ONE FINAL POINT IN RELATION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, WHICH IS REFERENCED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

THE FACILITY'S ORIGINAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ACTUALLY ALLOWED FOR LARGER POOLS, BUILDINGS AND PARKING LOTS THAN WHAT WAS CONSTRUCTED ON SITE.

SO OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AGAIN, MR. MADOFF'S TEAM AND MY TEAM HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY PLANNING TEAM, AND THE PLANNER HAS DETERMINED THAT CONCEPT THREE IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT ORIGINAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT WILL LIMIT LPA'S NEED TO DO EXTENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.

SO THAT'S A REAL BENEFIT TO THE PROJECT.

THAT BRINGS US BACK TO RECOMMENDED ACTION ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT THREE TO THE LPA AGREEMENT, AND I WILL FOREGO THE REST AND SIMPLY INDICATE WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES.

WELL, JAMES HAMILTON, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

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JAMES HAMILTON.

2625 DAVIS AVENUE.

I'M THE OWNER OPERATOR OF CARLSBAD WATER POLO.

SINCE 2000, I'VE BEEN COACHING WATER POLO HERE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR OVER 25 YEARS.

SO I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.

FINALLY, FOR ALL AQUATIC USERS OF THE COMMUNITY THE WATER POLO KIDS, THE SWIMMERS, THE LAP SWIMMERS, THE DIVERS, EVERYONE.

AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME, ESPECIALLY ON A DAY LIKE TODAY.

SO I'M FULLY IN AGREEMENT OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN.

I JUST WANT TO REFERENCE THE FACT THAT THE ORIGINAL PLANS OF MONROE CALLED FOR A 50 METER FACILITY.

I KNOW KYLE JUST REFERENCED THOSE PLANS SO THAT THAT FOOTPRINT COULD BE EXPANDED.

AND THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT IS I DON'T WANT US TO CYCLE BACK HERE TEN YEARS FROM NOW THINKING WHAT IF? WHY DIDN'T WE JUST DO A 50 METER POOL AND GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AROUND? THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT.

THEY DIDN'T DO IT IN THE EIGHTIES.

I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF THAT NOW.

THE 33 METER POOL IS AGAIN FANTASTIC.

THE FACILITIES LOOK AMAZING, BUT I'LL ADVISE THAT THAT'S SIMPLY A BAND-AID AT THIS POINT, THAT THAT WATER WILL BE COMPLETELY FULL AND YOU WILL STILL HAVE LAP SWIMMERS THAT ARE ANGRY THAT TEN YEAR OLDS ARE SWIMMING IN THE WATER.

AND WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE LAP SPACE? AND THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT'S I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD MANY, MANY TIMES.

SO A 50 METER POOL WOULD ALSO BE FULL.

I COULD PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT FROM 3 TO 9:00 OUR ORGANIZATION WOULD RENT THE FACILITY SO THERE WOULD NOT BE UNUSED WATER.

AND I DON'T FORESEE THAT COSTING THE CITY ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

IN FACT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A PROFIT CENTER, AS IT HAS BEEN ARGONAUT, WHICH I KNOW HAS BEEN A BIG SUCCESS FOR THE CITY.

CONTRARY TO SAY, THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH HAS NOT SO AN ALL GO HAS BEEN A HIT AND A HOME RUN.

AND I KNOW THE MONROE STREET WILL AS WELL.

AND AGAIN, I JUST AM ASKING, MAYBE WE REVISIT THAT AGAIN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES INTO THAT BIGGER PUMP ROOM.

THE COSTS EXPONENTIALLY GO UP, BUT I'M A PRETTY SIMPLE GUY AND I CAN COUNT SQUARES ON THAT.

AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE COULD PUSH IT OVER A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE LOSE A LITTLE DECK SPACE.

MAYBE YOU LOSE THE PARTY ROOM.

BUT I KNOW THAT THAT WATER WOULD BE VERY USEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO, AGAIN, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I'VE GOT TO TRY TO UP ON THE BARBECUE.

I NEED TO GET BACK TO IT AGAIN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

THAT WAS OUR ONLY SPEAKER.

MAYOR. THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS? MS. ACOSTA? THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION TODAY.

WHEN WHEN THE PROPOSALS CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND ON YOUR TIMELINE, YOU SHOWED THE CITY COUNCIL PICKED OPTION THREE.

BACK THEN, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST, MOST FULL FLEDGED PROPOSAL THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME.

RIGHT? THAT WAS THE BEST USE OF THE LAND WITH THE MOST FEATURES WE COULD FIND AT THE TIME.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT WAS CONCEPT THREE.

WE DID ASK LPA PREVIOUS TO BRING INTO COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF 50 METER POOL AND IT WOULD WOULD BE PUSHING OUT LITERALLY THE POOL DECK THAT WAS REFERENCED TO THE VERY MAXIMUM EXTENT.

AND THE ADDITIONAL DIFFICULTY THAT I CREATED WAS VERY LIMITED ABILITY TO INCREASE THE PARKING THAT WOULD MEET THAT LEVEL OF USAGE.

SO BASED ON THOSE FACTORS, WE FELT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE THAT SIZE OF POOL AND STILL ADDRESS COMMUNITY NEEDS.

IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT.

AND SO THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WERE ALSO CONSIDERED WERE REFERENCED TONIGHT.

THE COSTS WOULD INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY TO GO TO A 50 METER POOL AS WELL, NEEDING MUCH MORE EQUIPMENT TO ESSENTIALLY KEEP THAT OPERATIONAL.

SO ALL OF THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, YES, WE BROUGHT THREE OPTIONS TO YOU AND OPTION THREE WAS THE MOST EXTENSIVE AT A 33 METER POOL.

GREAT. THANK YOU. I REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE HAD THAT PROCESS AND WE HAD SPEAKERS COME OUT, WE THE COUNCIL CHOSE TO GO WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE, MOST FULLY FEATURED OPTION, AND WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

LATER ON, THE VOTERS, ALSO VOTERS OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD APPROVED THE BALLOT MEASURE TO AUTHORIZE THE FUNDING FOR THAT.

BUT THERE WAS A CAVEAT IN IN THE BALLOT MEASURE THAT LAID OUT A RANGE OF FUNDING AND YOU REFERENCED IT JUST A MOMENT AGO, I BELIEVE IT WAS 22 TO $24 MILLION.

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WE WILL NOT HAVE A MORE ACCURATE COST ESTIMATE UNTIL THOSE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS ARE COMPLETE, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A THIRD PARTY REVIEW THOSE PLANS AND SPECS TO THEN BRING BACK A COST ESTIMATE FOR YOU AT THAT TIME.

OKAY, GREAT. LAST QUESTION IS MOVING QUICKLY OF THE ESSENCE, IS TIME OF THE ESSENCE.

DO WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE PRICES DOWN IN LIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEMS WHERE WE HEARD ABOUT RISING COSTS? THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

YES, MA'AM, I THINK SO, TOO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE.

MS. BHAT-PATEL? MY QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY ANSWERED.

OKAY, GREAT. MS. BURKHOLDER? THANKS SO MUCH. THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT.

I'M IN THE HOOD WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE 22 TO 24 MILLION QUOTE? WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? IT WAS JUST LAST YEAR, SHORTLY BEFORE THE COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP.

SO, IN APRIL OF 20.

MARCH. MARCH, AND THEN IT HELD THROUGH APRIL.

BEYOND THAT, AGAIN, WE'VE NOT GONE BACK TO LPA TO REQUEST FURTHER UPDATES.

SO IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT DO YOU OR WHAT ARE YOU FORECASTING THAT NUMBER TO GO UP? AND HOW MUCH? SO THAT ESTIMATE DID INCLUDE AN ESCALATION FACTOR BUILT IN WHETHER OR NOT, AGAIN, THAT REMAINS CONSISTENT FULLY TO THE RANGE. A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS ON THE ECONOMY AND WHAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO EXPERIENCE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

BUT AGAIN, THAT WILL BE OUR TARGET IN DEVELOPING THESE DESIGNS WITH LPA TO STAY WITHIN THAT RANGE.

AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT OUT TO A THIRD PARTY ESTIMATE OR TO VERIFY IF IT IS STILL ACCURATE TO THAT 22 TO $24 MILLION RANGE.

OKAY. AND THE COMMUNITY MEETING ROOM, WILL THAT BE SIMILAR TO LIKE A HARDING CENTER WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN RENT THAT FOR PERHAPS A POOL PARTY OR FOR SOME EVENT THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THERE? YES, MA'AM.

AND MORE DIRECTLY APPLICABLE, I WOULD SAY, TO THE AGUA NORTE MEETING ROOM, WHICH IS ON THE BACK SIDE, IF YOU WILL, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE AQUATIC CENTER, AND THAT ALSO HAS AN OUTDOOR OPENING THAT ALLOWS FOR THE BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND SUCH.

YOU REFERENCED. YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

I SUPPORT THIS MEASURE.

ANY STATEMENTS.

START WITH YOU, MS. BHAT-PATEL.

YEAH. NO, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS.

I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A FEW YEARS, AND LIKE MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE COUNCIL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR, THE COMMUNITY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR.

SO I FEEL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THIS OPTION TONIGHT.

MS. ACOSTA? THANK YOU. I SUPPORT THIS.

THANKS. MS. BURKHOLDER? NO, THANK YOU. I ALSO SUPPORTED, I THINK THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR IT.

I THINK IT'S TAKING A LOT LONGER THAN THEY WISHED IT DID.

BUT THAT'S JUST HOW GOVERNMENT IS AND FOR US TO DO IT PROPERLY.

SO I ALSO SUPPORT IT.

LOOKING FOR A MOTION, PLEASE.

MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.

PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER NINE CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

[9. VILLAGE & BARRIO MASTER PLAN AND CORRESPONDING AUTHORITY FOR APPROVAL OF THE PLAN ]

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN AND CORRESPONDING AUTHORITY FOR APPROVAL OF THE PLAN.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND KICK THIS OFF ON BEHALF OF COUNCILMEMBER BURKHOLDER.

BUT UNDER CARLSBAD, MUNI CODE SECTION 1.20.060.

SECTION C, IT PROVIDES THE AUTHORITY BY WHICH ITEMS ARE BASICALLY DOCKETED FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

THE CITY MANAGER CAN PLACE IT ON, THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN PLACE A MATTER ON FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

BUT THEN ALSO COUNCIL HAS AN ABILITY TO DO THAT EITHER BY SENDING AN EMAIL OR CORRESPONDENCE TO THE CITY MANAGER OR BY WAY OF MINUTE MOTION, WHICH COUNCIL'S OBVIOUSLY FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH.

SO THAT SAID, THE COUNCILMEMBER DID MAKE THE REQUEST.

SEND AN EMAIL TO ME AND WITH THAT I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER BURKHOLDER.

THANK YOU. SO THIS IS MERELY TO ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN.

WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS ON WHETHER WE SUPPORT OR DON'T SUPPORT AN ISSUE TONIGHT.

WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN THE DIRECTION.

SO I THINK MOST OF US ARE AWARE THAT THE STATE REQUIRES JURISDICTIONS TO STREAMLINE THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS AND SPECIFICALLY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND PROJECTS INVOLVING RESIDENTIAL.

DEVELOPMENTS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE SPECIFIED IN OUR STATE CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT THAT ATTEMPT TO BASICALLY ACHIEVE THAT

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IT'LL BE MORE PREDICTABLE FOR WHAT THEY CAN BUILD AND WITH THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

SO, STAFF HAS TOLD ME THAT THEY'RE WELL ON THEIR WAY TO DEVELOPING THOSE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, AND THAT WILL PROBABLY COME BEFORE US FOR CONSIDERATION LATER THIS SUMMER.

SO AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS PROBABLY FIVE DIFFERENT DESIGN STANDARDS THAT DEVELOPERS CAN CHOOSE FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND WITH THOSE IN PLACE, THERE'S REALLY LESS OF A NEED FOR COUNCIL TO BE INVOLVED IN THE REVIEW OF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO. BUT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T REVIEW THOSE IN DISTRICT TWO, THREE OR FOUR EITHER.

AND IT'S A PLANNING COMMISSION DUTY.

SO I'M MERELY ASKING FOR A LITTLE DEFERENCE TO HEAR THIS ISSUE IN A DEEPER CONVERSATION.

SO DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE OR DO YOU GUYS WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING? I JUST THINK I'M REQUESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AS PART OF THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AND ACTUAL LANGUAGE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATIONS TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, AND THAT THE DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY IN THE VILLAGE OF MASTER PLAN GO FROM THE CITY COUNCIL BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION LIKE IT IS IN THE REST OF THE CITY.

IT SEEMS TO BE AN EQUITABLE WAY TO APPROACH THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE VILLAGE.

BUT ALSO PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE THE DECISION MAKER ON PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THEIR DECISIONS WOULD STILL BE APPEALABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE WOULDN'T LOSE THAT ABILITY IF WE NEEDED TO DO THAT.

THE PERMIT PROCESS WOULD STILL BE DISCRETIONARY AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO ENSURE THAT THE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS ARE BEING MET.

BUT THE ACTION WILL ALSO SAVE STAFF TIME IN APPLICANT CARRYING COSTS, AND IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH STATE DIRECTIVES.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOUSING ELEMENT, A CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT THAT IS VERY AWARE THAT WE NEED TO STREAMLINE THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS. AND ALL THAT IS, IS BASICALLY SAYING IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY IS DIRECTING STAFF TO BRING BACK THE ISSUE, ALLOWS FOR A MORE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION OR DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE, AND IT ALLOWS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN.

AND IT DOESN'T MEAN, AGAIN, THAT WE'RE VOTING IN FAVOR OR AGAINST ANYTHING.

WE'RE JUST HAVING THE DISCUSSION, MS. ACOSTA. IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS OR NO? I DON'T. THANK YOU.

CAN WE DO THAT FIRST? YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SOMETIMES I NEED A REMINDER.

PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE.

JENNIFER SINCLAIR, FOLLOWED BY TJ CHILDS.

THE CITIZENS AND CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF SPENT A LOT OF TIME CRAFTING THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE VILLAGE, IN THE BARRIO. THE BARRIO IS THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL CENTER OF CARLSBAD.

THE VILLAGE ISN'T CENTRAL PHYSICALLY, BUT IT'S WHERE A LOT OF US LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.

THE VILLAGE ALSO WELCOMES MANY VISITORS.

IT HOSTS OUR BIANNUAL, OUR TWO FAIRS AND THE CARLSBAD MARATHON.

SO THE VILLAGE AND THE BARRIO ARE SPECIAL.

THEY'RE PARTICULARLY BELOVED BY MOST RESIDENTS OF D ONE.

THEREFORE, EVERYONE AGREED THAT PROGRAMS IN THE VILLAGE, IN THE BARRIO, SHOULD BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, WHICH IS AN ELECTED BOARD.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT.

AND WHEN THERE ARE APPEALS, THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, IT COST $800 TO MOUNT AN APPEAL.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE $800, SO.

YEAH, THAT SHOULD BE NOTED.

SO I GUESS THE CITIZENS OF D1 WONDER WHY SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING WHEN EVERYBODY'S AGREED UPON IT IN THE PAST AND DO WE EXPECT MORE OF THIS? IS THERE GOING TO BE MORE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN AGREED ON THAT ARE GOING TO BE CHANGED? THANK YOU. GOOD

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I WANT TO SECOND WHAT JAN SAID.

THE FEE IS ACTUALLY $847 IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A FINAL APPROVAL.

AND THEN WE WANT TO APPEAL A DECISION.

AND INITIALLY WHEN THE VILLAGE AND THE BURIAL PLAN WAS CREATED.

THERE WAS CONSTERNATION ABOUT THIS.

SO SUBSEQUENT TO ITS CREATION, THERE WAS A VOTE BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY FROM JUST THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO MY MIND WERE GOING BACKWARDS.

PLUS, WHY SHOULD A RESIDENT OF A DISTRICT HAVE TO PAY $847 TO APPEAL A DECISION? I DON'T SEE WHERE OTHER RESIDENTS IN TWO, THREE AND FOUR ARE HAVING TO PAY $847.

SO I DON'T SUPPORT THE CHANGE AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HISTORY WITH THE VILLAGE AND THE BARRIO PLAN, A LOT OF ADAPTATIONS, AND IN MY MIND WE'RE GOING BACK.

IF WE CHANGE IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH JAN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AREN'T.

ELECTED AND IN THE BEGINNING OF THE VILLAGE AND BURIAL PLAN, THERE'S SOME HISTORY CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO ARE APPOINTED SOLELY BY THE MAYOR, AND SOME OF THEM SERVE MORE THAN TWO TERMS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY VESTIGES OF THAT, BUT THERE HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN.

COHESION. COHESION IN THE SENSE OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PREVIOUS MAYOR FOLLOWING THE RULES.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND NOT HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE AND NOT MAKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE FINAL AUTHORITY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO, THANK YOU. BACK TO YOU, MS. ACOSTA. OKAY.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

SO, IN THE PRESENTATION BY MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER BURKHOLDER, I HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS STOOD OUT.

I KNOW. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE REQUEST IS FOR A DISCUSSION REGARDING.

REVERTING THE APPROVAL OF VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN DECISIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION TO COUNCIL. ALTHOUGH IT PREVIOUSLY WAS SPLIT, THERE WERE LIKE EIGHT DIFFERENT KINDS OF APPROVALS.

AND I REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WAS VERY LONG AND THERE WAS A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT WENT INTO IT AND THE COMMUNITY SHOWED UP IN DROVES TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

BUT IN FEBRUARY 2021, JUST A YEAR AGO, WE MADE THIS DECISION THAT BECAUSE THE BARRIO IS SUCH A HISTORIC, VISIBLE, DENSELY POPULATED PLACE, THE COMMUNITY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE VISIBILITY AND TRANSPARENCY, THE KIND THAT YOU SEE AT THE CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTED BY ELECTED COUNCIL PEOPLE VERSUS AT A PLANNING COMMISSION WITH APPOINTEES WHO ARE NOT ELECTED, NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO VOTERS.

SO I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION, AND I DON'T WANT TO REOPEN THAT PROCESS WITHOUT HAVING SEEN HOW IT WORKS. IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN A YEAR.

I THINK GOVERNMENT DOES DOES TAKE A WHILE.

IT WAS FEBRUARY TWO YEARS, FEBRUARY 2021.

SO IT TAKES A WHILE TO SEE HOW THINGS WORK.

IT APPEARS TO BE WORKING JUST FINE, BUT THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WAS ANOTHER TOPIC THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AS PART OF THIS.

I DIDN'T SEE THAT SO MUCH IN HERE, BUT I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF PART OF THE REQUEST AND THAT APPEARS TO BE MOVING ALONG AND THAT WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, IF SOMETHING'S NOT GOING WELL, THEN WE CAN FIX IT.

BUT IT APPEARS TO BE GOING REALLY WELL.

IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A CHANGE WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY REQUESTING IT.

MS. BHAT-PATEL? YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

I KNOW THAT THIS DISCUSSION IS SOMETHING THAT ALMOST MIGHT HAVE PRECEDED MY TIME WHEN IT FIRST STARTED AND THEN OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN AN ONGOING DISCUSSION DURING MY FIRST TERM.

AND I THINK FINALLY WE HAD A DISCUSSION THE DAY I WAS GOING INTO LABOR ON FEBRUARY 16TH, 2021.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU SHARED, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF THE HOUSING CRISIS AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT, THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THE BIGGEST IMPACT, THOUGH, THAT WE CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY TENDS TO BE IN DISTRICT ONE.

EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, WHETHER I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS DISTRICT OR NOT, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK, HUNDREDS OF EMAILS THAT I'VE RECEIVED TEND TO BE

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I WAS ACTUALLY, WHILE YOU ALL WERE TALKING, REMEMBERING A STORY WHERE I WAS WALKING IN THE VILLAGE, THE PERSON DIDN'T KNOW WHO I WAS, BUT THEY JUST STOPPED ME AND THEY SHARED, OH MY GOSH, I'M SO DISHEARTENED BY WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE VILLAGE.

AND I THINK THAT STUCK WITH ME JUST REALIZING THAT THIS PERSON DOESN'T KNOW WHO I AM.

THEY DECIDED TO SHARE WITH A RANDOM STRANGER THAT THEY WERE VERY UPSET WITH HOW THINGS WERE GOING AND I DIDN'T SHARE UNTIL THE END.

YOU KNOW, I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER.

FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT. I WANTED TO HEAR A VERY HONEST ASSESSMENT OF HOW THEY FELT, BUT IT WAS IT WAS DEFINITELY EYE OPENING IN THE SENSE THAT IT ALLOWS FOR US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO THEN BE THAT FINAL AUTHORITY ON AN AREA THAT IS HISTORIC, AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER.

IT'S AN AREA THAT EVERYONE CONSIDERS A GEM AND KNOWING THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY NOT BE THE DISTRICT I RESIDE IN, I KNOW A LOT OF THE IMPACT TENDS TO BE IN THIS DISTRICT AND ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE BARRIO.

I'VE HEARD A LOT FROM ON THIS ISSUE, AND I KNOW WE GOT EMAILS TODAY TOO DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS UP UNTIL WE HAD THIS HEARING AND UP UNTIL 2021, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK WAS ON, WE WANT THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THIS DECISION.

AND SO AS MUCH AS I KNOW AND IT WAS A PROCESS, I THINK IT WAS, IT WENT THROUGH COASTAL COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN FINALLY IT CAME BACK TO US.

AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF STAFF TIME THAT WENT INTO IT, TOO, A LOT OF MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SO IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ECONOMICS AND IF WE DID REOPEN THAT CONVERSATION, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY THERE'S THAT COST PIECE AND THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK PIECE FOR ME WHERE I'M CONSIDERING BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO WHAT WE'VE ADOPTED.

EVERYONE HAS BEEN APPRECIATIVE THAT WE'VE ADOPTED THAT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR THEM TO HAVE MORE OF THE BUY IN.

SO I DON'T SEE NECESSARILY AND ACTUALLY EVEN DEVELOPERS, NO DEVELOPER HAS COME TO ME TO TALK TO ME AND SAY, HEY, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, AT LEAST NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AT LEAST THE ONES THAT I'VE INTERACTED WITH.

SO I DON'T SEE A REASON TO REOPEN.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT I'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF THE DATA THAT I'VE BEEN RECEIVING OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW YEARS.

THE BROWN ACT REQUIRES THAT ANY TIME THE COUNCIL HAS ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION LIKE THIS, IT MUST BE DONE IN A PUBLIC FORUM.

AND THAT PUBLIC FORUM IS THIS WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THIS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AS A GROUP.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, ANY TIME A COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION ONLY, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION LATER IF WE WANT TO VOTE ON IT.

BUT I NEVER THINK THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.

IF A COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS, I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK, TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK, TELL US HOW THINGS ARE GOING FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND MAYBE EVEN MAKE SOME TWEAKS OR SOME COMPROMISES IN THERE.

WHETHER I AGREE WITH CHANGING IT OR NOT, THAT'S IRRELEVANT.

BUT ANY TIME A COUNCIL MEMBER ASKS FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, I DON'T WANT TO TELL THAT COUNCIL MEMBER NO.

SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I'LL SUPPORT BRINGING IT BACK AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION THEN OF WHETHER WE SUPPORT A CHANGE OR DON'T SUPPORT A CHANGE.

IT'LL BE BASED ON OPEN CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO WITH THAT, PLEASE VOTE ON THE MOTION.

THE MOTION IS TO OKAY.

I HAVEN'T MADE A MOTION AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS TO SAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS TO MY COLLEAGUES.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS RECOGNIZING THAT WE CANNOT HAVE THESE WITHOUT HAVING THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED 11 PROJECTS, THE COUNCIL APPROVED 11 PROJECTS, AND ONE WAS DEFEATED.

SINCE THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, SINCE AFTER THIS WAS ACTUALLY WAS THAT LAST YEAR? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS.

CITY MANAGER WAS IT NUMBERS IN MY HEAD FLYING AROUND EVERYWHERE.

SO I JUST THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS MAKE THIS AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD FOR THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE DETERMINING FACTORS OF HAVING THOSE INTO OUR HOUSING ELEMENT.

AND I AGREE WITH MS. [INAUDIBLE] THAT CONSISTENCY HAS BEEN MISSED, PARTICULARLY IN D1.

SO YOU ALL KNOW MY COMMITMENT TO THIS DISTRICT AND I THINK WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING SOME OF THIS OF AN ISSUE IF WE HAD HAD CONSISTENCY IN LEADERSHIP.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE MOVE TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL WE HAVE A FIFTH COUNCIL MEMBER.

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OKAY, PERFECT. SO OFFICIALLY YOU'VE WITHDRAWN YOUR REQUEST? YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY. THAT RESOLVES NUMBER NINE.

NUMBER TEN IS THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENT FOR THE SENIOR COMMISSION.

[10. MAYORAL APPOINTMENT OF ONE MEMBER TO THE SENIOR COMMISSION]

OH, I'M SORRY. SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A GREAT COUNCIL.

THEY KEEP ME IN LINE. THANK YOU.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. SO MY MOTION IS TO APPOINT CECILIA SHOWY AS THE SENIOR COMMISSIONER.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CLOSING STATEMENTS. START WITH YOU, MS.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

VERY COOL TO CELEBRATE 100 YEARS OF THE CARLSBAD CHAMBER EXISTING AND JUST SEEING MANY OF THE BUSINESSES THAT THRIVE HERE ON THE.

ON FRIDAY, I HAD MY FIRST NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEMS SERVICES COMMITTEE MEETING AND TALKED A LOT ABOUT FUNDING FOR LOCAL PROJECTS, WHICH I'VE SHARED WITH OUR LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES DIVISION FOLKS.

WE DID HAVE A LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES DIVISION MEETING WHERE WE RECEIVED AN UPDATE WITH REGARDS TO THE STATE BUDGET AND WE DID RECEIVE SOME CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE GOVERNOR'S STAFF.

SO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO SEND THEM TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THEM AND THEN PASS THEM ALONG IN TERMS OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR CITY TO THE LEAGUE AND JUST IN TERMS OF ADVOCACY, WE ALSO HAD AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY.

THE MAYOR AND I AND I KNOW MAYOR, IT WAS YOUR FIRST ONE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF MY FAVORITE COMMITTEES BECAUSE WE GET TO TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DISCUSS OUR FIRST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND JUST IN GENERAL, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO PRIORITIZE, WHICH WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL IN THE COMING MONTHS.

AND THEN LASTLY, I DO HAVE A WELL, MY MY COUNCIL OFFICE HOURS.

OBVIOUSLY TOMORROW WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, SO I WILL BE HAVING THOSE LATER.

BUT WE DO HAVE AN SETD BOARD MEETING ON THURSDAY, SO I'LL BE ATTENDING THAT.

AND IF YOU GET A THREE DAY WEEKEND, I'M ASSUMING WE ALL DO ENJOY YOUR PRESIDENT'S DAY.

MS. ACOSTA? GREAT. THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING AT THE LISTING GOING DOWN.

IT WAS A PLEASURE TO BE AT THE 100TH BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THE CHAMBER IS 100 YEARS OLD.

THE CITY IS 70 YEARS OLD.

SO OBVIOUSLY THE CHAMBER'S BEEN AROUND QUITE A WHILE, EVEN BEFORE THE CITY WAS INCORPORATED.

AND IT WAS EXCITING TO BE THERE WITH SUCH A BIG CROWD TO CELEBRATE.

THIS MORNING THE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MET HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBER, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, AND COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER AND I ATTENDED, ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST FROM CONGRESSMAN MIKE LEVIN'S OFFICE, STATE SENATOR CATHERINE BLAKE SPEARS OFFICE AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER TASHA BURNER-HORVATH'S OFFICE.

THEY ALL GAVE REPORTS AND WE SHARED FEEDBACK.

WE ALSO HAD REPORTS FROM OUR STATE AND FEDERAL LOBBYISTS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THOSE TWO CAPITALS AND HOW WE CAN TAKE ACTION AND ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF CARLSBAD.

SO THERE'S A LOT MORE TO BE DONE.

IT'S EARLY IN THE SEASON, EARLY IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, IN BOTH BOTH OF THOSE PLACES, BOTH CAPITALS.

BUT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AND MORE TO COME.

ELSE ELSE WAS ON THE LIST.

THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITY, SAN DIEGO COUNTY DIVISION HAD ITS MEETING ON MONDAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL IS THE CHAIR OF OUR LOCAL COUNTY DIVISION AND I ATTENDED THAT MEETING SO WAS ABLE TO HEAR FROM THE GOVERNOR'S SPEAKERS.

THERE WERE TWO LOCAL SAN DIEGO COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WHO GAVE PRESENTATIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET AND WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE STATE.

SO THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO HEAR THAT PRESENTATION.

AND THEN ALSO ON MONDAY, I HAD MY ORIENTATION AS A BRAND NEW BOARD MEMBER FOR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK, RESEARCH AND MEETINGS INVOLVED WITH THAT.

SO I'M GLAD I ASKED FOR IT AND I DON'T REGRET IT, BUT IT'S JUST A LOT OF WORK.

BUT I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO TO LEARNING A LOT MORE ABOUT WATER AND HOW WE CAN TAKE CHARGE AND WE CAN BE ADVOCATES FOR OUR OWN COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO SAFE, RELIABLE, CLEAN WATER.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

I ALSO HAVE THURSDAY OFFICE HOURS EVERY WEEK ALONGSIDE MY COLLEAGUES.

I KNOW EVERYBODY IS VERY VALUABLE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT MY BEST TIMES ARE THURSDAY AFTERNOONS AND OTHERWISE PEOPLE CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO MEET WITH ME BY JUST EMAILING

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BUT THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY AND HAPPY PRESIDENT'S DAY.

MS. BURKHOLDER? THANK YOU. YES. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 100 YEAR BIRTHDAY PARTY WAS VERY FUN, VERY WELL ATTENDED.

AND WE HAVE SUCH A STRONG BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN CARLSBAD.

IT WAS A PLEASURE TO BE THERE REPRESENTING THE CITY.

I HAVE HAD LOTS OF MEETINGS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WITH LOTS OF RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT ONE, PRIMARILY CONCERNED WITH THE HOMELESSNESS POPULATION THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING, PARTICULARLY IN PINE PARK, AND WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THAT.

I PROMISE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SAFE WHEN WE'RE GOING OUT AND ABOUT IN THE VILLAGE AND WHEN WE'RE DROPPING OUR CHILDREN OFF AT PINE PARK TO GO PLAY SPORTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS UPCOMING.

THE NORTH COUNTY DISPATCH JOINT POWERS OF AUTHORITIES ON THE 22ND AND THE BUENA VISTA LAGOON WILL BE ON THE 23RD.

AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO REPRESENTING THE CITY THERE.

AND OF COURSE, I WILL HAVE MY ENCINO WASTEWATER TRAINING AS WELL AND GET UP TO SPEED FOR THAT BOARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO TOMORROW'S SPECIAL MEETING. AND HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY, EVERYONE IN RED AND EVERYBODY ELSE I HOPE YOU ENJOY.

AND WE FINISHED EARLY ENOUGH.

MAYBE YOU CAN. THANKS.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

CITY MANAGER? CITY ATTORNEY? NOTHING TO REPORT. THANK YOU. CITY CLERK? NOTHING. THANK YOU. WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.