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COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER?

[CALL TO ORDER]

PRESENT. COUNCIL.

MEMBER ACOSTA? HERE.

MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL? HERE. MAYOR BLACKBURN? PRESENT. ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

I HAVE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

THE CITY COUNCIL IS ALSO SERVING AS THE COUNCIL MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

NEXT IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I'LL INVITE MS. BURKHOLDER TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

PLEASE RISE. PUT YOUR HAND ON YOUR HEART.

READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[1. DISTRICT 2 COUNCIL MEMBER APPLICANT INTERVIEWS AND APPOINTMENT]

NEXT IS DISTRICT TWO COUNCIL MEMBER APPLICANT INTERVIEWS AND APPOINTMENT CITY MANAGER.

PLEASE TAKE OVER. THANK YOU, SIR.

AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY AS OUR LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES DIRECTOR SHEILA COBIAN, ALONG WITH OUR CLERK SERVICES MANAGER, BOBBY MEDINA.

LADIES, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY TO CONDUCT INTERVIEWS OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATIONS FOR THE DISTRICT TWO VACANCY.

THE INTERVIEW PROCEDURE WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE CALLED TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER THEY SUBMITTED THEIR SPEAKER CARDS.

APPLICANTS WILL THEN BE CALLED TO SPEAK AT THE PODIUM IN THE ORDER THEIR APPLICATIONS WERE RECEIVED.

APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 4 MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND INTEREST IN SERVING AS A DISTRICT TWO APPOINTED CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE CITY CLERK WILL THEN ASK THE FOLLOWING QUESTION OF EACH APPLICANT, WHO WILL EACH BE GIVEN 2 MINUTES TO RESPOND.

DISTRICT TWO RESIDENTS HAVE MET AT MANY TOPICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.

HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE WHERE TO FOCUS GIVING YOUR LIMITED TIME IN OFFICE? THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE CONCLUSION OF EACH APPLICANT'S COMMENTS AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF ALL INTERVIEWS.

THE CITY CLERK WILL REQUEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK UP TO THREE SEPARATE APPLICANTS NAMES IN WRITING.

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, THE CITY CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE AND DISPLAY EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SELECTIONS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.

THE APPLICANT THAT APPEARS THE MOST WILL THEN BE CONSIDERED BY A VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY COUNCIL MAY DISCUSS THE ISSUE AT THIS TIME.

THIS PROCESS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL CONSENSUS OR THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES IS REACHED.

THE APPLICANTS WILL BE CALLED FORWARD IN THE ORDER THEY ARE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE.

THOMAS POWERS.

CAROLINE LUNA.

JOSH SWALLOW.

STEPHEN ALQUIST.

BRIAN PEELING.

JAMIE JACOBS.

WILLIAM FOWLER.

THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US AT THIS TIME? WE DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. WHEN IT COMES TO ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, THE COUNCIL HAS NOT AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION, BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, CAN WE LIMIT THAT? TIME FOR A RESPONSE TO ONE MINUTE.

THAT'S UP TO THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

IS THAT REASONABLE WITH THE COUNCIL? THANK YOU. THEN THAT'S WHAT IT'LL BE BEFORE WE BEGIN TO CALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

BEFORE YOU GO, I DIDN'T ASK IF ANY OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? OKAY. SHEILA, PLEASE GO.

OKAY. BEFORE WE CALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FORWARD TO SPEAK, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL DISCLOSES WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAD ANY CONTACT WITH ANY OF THE APPLICANTS ONCE THEY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION TO THE CITY CLERK.

MS. BURKHOLDER? NO. MS. ACOSTA? NO. MS. BHAT-PATEL? NO.

AND FOR ME, NO, THANK YOU.

CITY CLERK. THOMAS POWERS, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

GOOD EVENING. ACTUALLY, WE HAVE TO DO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FIRST BEFORE THE APPLICANTS.

SORRY, MR. POWERS. I'M SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS, WE DON'T DO THIS EVERY WEEK, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH US.

FOLLOWED BY KEVIN SABELLICO.

MR. MAYOR, HONORABLE COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.

MY NAME IS JIMMY YOKOGAWA.

I LIVE AT 1270 PLUM TREE ROAD AND I'VE BEEN A CARLSBAD RESIDENT FOR 63 YEARS.

I'LL BE VERY BRIEF TODAY.

I'M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF CAROLYN LUNA.

HER KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WOULD SERVE THIS COUNCIL VERY WELL, AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BENEFIT ALL OF CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU.

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MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE IN CHOOSING THE PERSON TO SERVE OUR CITY.

AS A RESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THE SERIOUSNESS WITH WHICH ALL OF YOU HAVE GIVEN THIS PROCESS AND IT'S A VERY SERIOUS DECISION TO MAKE.

SO TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN COUNCILMEMBER SCHUMACHER SEAT BECAME VACANT, THE COUNCIL SMARTLY APPOINTED PETER NORBY IN LARGE PART BECAUSE HE HAD SIGNIFICANT LAND USE EXPERIENCE.

IN MY OPINION, THAT TURNED OUT TO BE A GREAT DECISION.

HE SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATED WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

HE OFFERED UNIQUE IDEAS BUT DIDN'T TRY TO RADICALLY ALTER THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL, AND HE FILLED A KNOWLEDGE GAP THAT ROUNDED OUT THE COUNCIL IN A WAY THAT AT THE TIME ONLY HE COULD.

SO AS FATE WOULD HAVE IT, YOU NOW HAVE A CHANCE TO FOLLOW THE SAME PLAYBOOK.

MY COLLEAGUE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CAROLYN LUNA, IS THAT PERSON WHO CAN ROUND OUT THE COUNCIL BY BRINGING HER DECADES OF EXPERIENCE AS A PLANNING DIRECTOR, A PLANNING COMMISSIONER, AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS, A CONSERVATION ADVOCATE'S ASSISTANT TO A COUNTY SUPERVISOR, AND EVEN A DOCENT TO THE FLOWER FIELDS.

HER RESUME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

SO, AND PERHAPS EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK SHE WILL BE AN ASSET TO OUR CITY BECAUSE OF HER COLLABORATIVE STYLE.

I CAN SAY THE REST OF US ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFTENTIMES WAIT FOR HER TO MAKE THE MOTION BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT SHE IS THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO SAY THAT CORRECTLY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REVOTE ON STUFF.

SO SHE'S SHE MAKES US ALL LOOK BETTER BY DOING HER JOB SO WELL.

AND SHE IS ALWAYS SO RESPECTFUL TO THE APPLICANTS, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, THE STAFF, THE APPELLANTS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

I THINK THAT SHE WOULD BE A GREAT CHOICE TO LEAD OUR TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT TWO.

SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND GOOD LUCK TO THE EVENTUAL COUNCIL MEMBER THAT YOU DO APPOINT, WHOEVER THEY MAY BE.

THANK YOU. HOPE NELSON ? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL STAFF.

MY NAME IS HOPE NELSON.

I'VE LIVED IN DISTRICT TWO FOR 22 YEARS.

I'M ENTHUSED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS AND I HOPE THOSE NOT SELECTED TONIGHT WILL STAY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS PRETTY EXCITING.

IF I WERE VOTING, MY VOTE WOULD ALSO GO TO CAROLYN LUNA.

WITH HER EXPERIENCE AND FOUR YEARS ON OUR OWN PLANNING COMMISSION, SHE CAN BE UP AND RUNNING DAY ONE WITH ONLY TWO YEARS ON THIS TERM, A QUICK START IS ESSENTIAL. AS A D2 VOTER, I HOPE YOU WILL APPOINT CAROLYN TO REPRESENT MY D2 DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. MR. POWERS? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS THOMAS MARK POWERS.

I'M AN ARTIST AND AN EDUCATOR.

WHEN MY FAMILY FIRST CAME TO CARLSBAD IN THE EARLY SIXTIES, THE POPULATION WAS 9000.

60% OF THOSE WERE HISPANIC.

IT IS NOW ONLY 16%.

THE LAND IN AND AROUND CARLSBAD WAS FILLED WITH AVOCADO GROVES AND POINSETTIA FIELDS, NOT GOLF COURSES IN SUBDIVISIONS.

I LIVED IN CARLSBAD WHEN THE CITY WAS IN ITS INFANCY, WHEN EVERYONE KNEW AND CARED FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

NO INCLUSION WAS NECESSARY IF WE NEEDED A BASEBALL FIELD.

WE ALL GRABBED OUR SHOVEL AND BUILT IT.

OUR SHOVEL READY COMMUNITY PROJECTS WERE NOT SUBSIDIZED BY THE CITY, NOR DID WE HAVE TO PASS A BOND MEASURE TO PAY FOR THEM.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE HAD GREAT SCHOOLS THAT WERE BASED IN THE ARTS.

WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD, I MET THE GREAT BAUHAUS ARTIST AND TEACHER, JOSEF ALBERS.

I ASKED HIM THE PROVERBIAL YOUNG ARTIST QUESTION, HOW DO I BECOME AN ARTIST? ALBERT SIMPLY REPLIED, OPEN THE EYES, WHICH MEANS EXPAND YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS SO YOU CAN COMPREHEND AND MEET THE CHALLENGES THAT CONFRONT THAT YOU CONFRONT AND RESOLVE THEM CREATIVELY.

MY FELLOW BLACK MOUNTAINEER BUCKMINSTER FULLER, ONCE SAID, YOU NEVER CHANGE THINGS BY FIGHTING THE EXISTING REALITY TO CHANGE SOMETHING.

BUILD A NEW MODEL THAT MAKES THE EXISTING MODEL OBSOLETE.

CARLSBAD NOW FACES CHALLENGES ON A GLOBAL SCALE.

MY AREA OF EXPERTISE ARE IN THE ARTS, TECHNOLOGY, EDUCATION AND ENERGY.

ALL FOUR AREAS WILL BE CRITICAL TO OUR COMMUNITY'S WELL-BEING DURING THE BIBLICAL DAYS THAT LIE AHEAD.

IT IS A TIME OF GREAT.

IT IS A TIME TO GET REAL BECAUSE WE HAVE REAL PROBLEMS AND ARE IN REAL PERIL OF LOSING OUR FREEDOMS.

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WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY OF LEARNERS AND FIND REAL SOLUTIONS.

IN CLOSING, ATTORNEY LEWIS NISAR SAID A MAN WHO WORKS WITH HIS HANDS IS A LABORER, A MAN WHO WORKS WITH HIS HANDS AND HIS BRAIN IS A CRAFTSMAN, BUT A MAN WHO WORKS WITH HIS HANDS AND HIS BRAIN AND HIS HEART IS AN ARTIST.

IF I'M SELECTED TO BE YOUR NEXT COUNCILMAN, I WILL WORK IN MY HANDS, MY BRAIN AND MY HEART TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING ME OUT TODAY, MR. POWERS, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

DISTRICT TWO RESIDENTS SUBMITTED MANY TOPICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.

HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE WHERE FOCUS WHERE TO FOCUS, GIVEN YOUR LIMITED TIME IN OFFICE? I THINK IT GIVES ME, AFFORDS ME A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY.

I CAN'T RUN FOR REELECTION AGAIN.

AND THERE'S AN OLD SAYING IN POLITICS YOU CAN EITHER BE A REFORMER OR BE REELECTED.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO I'VE SEEN MANY THINGS HERE IN CARLSBAD OVER MY TIME HERE LIVING, I'VE LIVED HERE IN CARLSBAD SINCE 1962.

AND I HAVE, I'M A CREATOR.

I'M AN ARTIST. AND I SEE SO MUCH POTENTIAL FOR WORKING IN, FOR INSTANCE, WITH OUR ENERGY, WITH OUR SCHOOLS.

I'M VERY WELL VERSED IN THAT.

WHEN I LIVED IN SACRAMENTO.

I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN SACRAMENTO.

I STARTED THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION MOVEMENT IN SACRAMENTO.

AND SO THE THING IS, IS THAT AND I WORKED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND I ALSO WORKED ON THE EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH I KNOW IS A TOP PRIORITY OF YOURS HERE.

IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING, YOU KNOW.

ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, I SAT IN THAT CHAIR, MAYOR BLACKBURN.

I WAS THE LAST NIGHT OF CITIZEN'S ACADEMY, AND I PLAYED BUD LEWIS.

AND HE GAVE ME MY OWN BLOCK AND GAVEL.

SO THE THING IS, IS THAT THERE IS I WANT TO STAY POSITIVE ABOUT THE POSITIVE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO STABILIZE OUR COMMUNITY AND TO ADVANCE IT FURTHER AND NOT LET IT DIGRESS.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DO.

CAROLYN LUNA.

WHEN I START TALKING, IT STARTS TIMING.

OH, MY HUSBAND WOULD LOVE THIS.

MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO VERY BRIEFLY TELL YOU WHY I HAVE PUT MY NAME INTO CONSIDERATION FOR SECOND DISTRICT COUNCIL PERSON FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND WHAT I BELIEVE ARE SOME OF MY KEY EXPERIENCES AND QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS POSITION.

I HAVE SUBMITTED THIS INFORMATION IN MY APPLICATION ALONG WITH MY RESUME FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

PUBLIC SERVICE HAS BEEN A WAY OF LIFE FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.

IT IS OUR FAMILY MANTRA.

I HAVE MORE THAN THREE DECADES OF PUBLIC SERVICE IN MY CAREER, AND I HAVE DEMONSTRATED EXTENSIVE RELEVANT WORK EXPERIENCE THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO COME UP TO SPEED QUICKLY ON MANY CRITICAL ISSUES THAT ARE AND WILL BE BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.

I BELIEVE I AM UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO SERVE IMMEDIATELY AS AN EFFECTIVE CONTRIBUTOR TO THE COUNCIL, THE CITY SECOND DISTRICT CONSTITUENTS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

I AM DEEPLY AWARE OF THE DEMANDS OF THE JOB.

HAVING WORKED FOR A COUNTY SUPERVISOR WITH OVER 20 CITIES AND THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AS I HAVE MENTIONED IN MY APPLICATION, I HAVE STAFFED AND REPRESENTED ELECTED OFFICIALS ON A PLETHORA OF COMMITTEES, BOARDS, ADVISORY GROUPS AT THE FEDERAL, STATE, REGIONAL, COUNTY AND CITY LEVELS.

MY EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL LAW INCLUDE ALL ASPECTS OF LAND USE PLANNING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING, HOUSING, TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY, ZONING IN GENERAL PLAN OVERHAUL AND UPDATES.

SPECIFIC PLAN DEVELOPMENTS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HABITAT CONSERVATION PLANNING, AIRPORT LAND USE MANAGEMENT, AIR QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY, WATER ACT, PRESERVE AND DEVELOPMENT AND FLOOD CONTROL TO NAME A FEW.

THESE ARE ALL THE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT ARE AND WILL WILL BE EVENTUALLY BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND I HAVE A WORKING AND DEMONSTRATED KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THESE AREAS LOCALLY.

AS YOU KNOW, I'VE SERVED AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR THIS CITY FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS.

IN THIS ROLE, I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO A NUMBER OF KEY CITY ISSUES AND AM ACUTELY AWARE WITH FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE INTEREST AND DESIRES OF OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.

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SERVING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A NATURAL TRANSITION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE ROLES AND OPERATIONAL ASPECTS OF THESE BODIES.

AS A COMMISSIONER, I HAVE ALWAYS PRIDED MYSELF ON UNDERSTANDING ALL THE ISSUES ON APPLICATIONS BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND HAVE RENDERED DECISIONS WHEN ALL THE FACTS WERE BEFORE ME, INCLUDING THE COMMENTS AND INPUT OF MY FELLOW CITIZENS, SOMETHING I VALUE MOST ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

IN MY ROLE, I HAVE REVIEWED OTHER CITY COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES DECISIONS AND ALWAYS EVALUATE ISSUES AND CONSIDER THEM INDEPENDENTLY, REGARDLESS OF HOW POPULAR OR NOT ARE, NOT HOW THOSE DECISIONS MAY BE.

IN OTHER WORDS, I'M NOT AFRAID TO MAKE A TOUGH DECISION.

DURING MY TENURE AS CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION, I WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING STAFF AND LEGAL TEAM TO UPDATE OPERATIONAL PROCEDURES OF THE COMMISSION, AND I REESTABLISHED THE APPOINTMENT OF A PLANNING COMMISSIONER TO THE CITY'S HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

I WAS SELECTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE HOUSING ELEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS HEAC AND ELECTED AS THE HEAC CHAIR BY THE MEMBERSHIP. IN THAT ROLE, I WORKED WITH STAFF, LEGAL COUNSEL AND CONSULTANTS AND DELIVERED AN UPDATED HOUSING ELEMENT PLAN TO PLANNING, COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL WITHIN THE REQUISITE TIME FRAME.

I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT THAT PLAN STANDS IS ONE OF THE FEW HOUSING ELEMENTS IN THE STATE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

I STAND READY TO ASSUME THE ROLE OF SECOND DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER IMMEDIATELY AND TO REPRESENT MY CONSTITUENTS AND MATTERS BEFORE THE COUNCIL IN ISSUES BEFORE THE CITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THIS LUNA DISTRICT, TWO RESIDENTS SUBMITTED MANY TOPICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.

HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE WHERE TO FOCUS, GIVEN YOUR LIMITED TIME IN OFFICE? FIRST, I APPRECIATE THE INTEREST THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM 14 CITIZENS WHO TOOK THE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW A D2 CANDIDATE WOULD ADDRESS VARIOUS ISSUES.

MANY OF THE QUESTIONS ARE ACTUALLY CITYWIDE QUESTIONS AND OF INTEREST TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST D2 RESIDENTS.

THE QUESTIONS CONTAIN A FULL SPECTRUM OF IDEAS AND CONCERNS, INCLUDING PUBLIC SAFETY, ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, ELECTRIC SELF SUSTAINABILITY, TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION WITH REGARD TO SANDAG, HOUSING, OPEN SPACE AND SO ON.

NONE OF THESE ISSUES AND CONCERNS ARE FOREIGN TO ME.

I HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN MANY OF THESE TOPICS IN MY THREE DECADE CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND IN MY CURRENT ROLE AS A CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSIONER.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TAKEN THE EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT TO EMPANEL A CROSS-SECTION OF RESIDENTS, 38 OF THEM, IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THEIR ALTERNATES TO FOCUS ON AND ADDRESS MANY OF THESE ISSUES.

THROUGH THE CARLSBAD TOMORROW GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE THAT HAS BEEN MEETING SINCE LAST MARCH.

ALL OF THESE ISSUES, INTERESTINGLY, HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND DEBATED AMONG CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN A NEW GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS OTHER SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY CERN'S THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE FORTHCOMING FROM THE COMMITTEE.

THERE IS A DEFINED AND COMPREHENSIVE DEBATE THAT IS OCCURRING WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO AS A D2 COUNCIL PERSON TO REVIEW AND DIGEST THEIR COMPREHENSIVE RECOMMENDATIONS.

I COULDN'T THINK OF A MORE APPROPRIATE WAY TO HAVE THESE CRITICAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS IDENTIFIED AND EXPLORED AND THROUGH A DELIBERATIVE PROCESS THAT INCLUDES A CROSS-SECTION OF OUR RESIDENTS.

ADDITIONALLY, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF D2 ON THE COUNCIL, I WILL HAVE OFFICE HOURS AND OTHER LINES OF COMMUNICATION AVAILABLE TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND WILL FROM TIME TO TIME HAVE OPEN HOUSES TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES THROUGH THEIR ISSUES, CONCERNED AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU. NEXT, PLEASE.

JOSH COELHO.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GREAT CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD.

MY NAME IS JOSH COELHO AND I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION.

I LIVE HERE IN CARLSBAD WITH MY COLLEGE SWEETHEART, WHO IS AN UNCOLOGY NURSE AT UC SAN DIEGO.

WE HAVE THREE SONS WHO ARE SIX, FOUR AND ONE, RESPECTIVELY.

MY FAMILY HAS LIVED IN CARLSBAD FOR DECADES.

MY FATHER IN LAW WENT TO CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL AND SAN DIEGO STATE, WHERE HE MET MY MOTHER IN LAW AT THE OFFICER'S CLUB AT THE MARINE CORPS RECRUIT DEPOT IN SAN DIEGO.

MY AUNT HAS LIVED ALONG THE IQUITOS LAGOON SINCE THE EARLY 1990S, WHERE I VISITED AS A KID AND FONDLY REMEMBER RUNNING THROUGH OPEN FIELDS WITH MY BROTHER AND COUSINS.

CARLSBAD IS A PLACE FULL OF HAPPY AND DEEP SEATED MEMORIES FOR MY FAMILY AND ME.

IT WAS WITH GREAT DELIGHT THAT I FOUND OUT THAT I WAS MOVING TO THE AREA IN 2010 WHEN I WAS STATIONED AT CAMP PENDLETON AS A YOUNG SECOND LIEUTENANT.

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FROM THERE, I COMPLETED TWO DEPLOYMENTS, INCLUDING ONE TO THE MIDDLE EAST, WHERE I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIVES AND SAFETY OF 50 MARINES AND SAILORS.

I SUBSEQUENTLY SERVED A TOUR AS AN INSTRUCTOR FOR YOUNG OFFICERS BEGINNING THEIR CAREERS IN THE MARINE CORPS.

AND AS MY WIFE AND I WERE DECIDING WHAT OUR FUTURE WOULD HOLD.

WE MADE THE CONSCIOUS DECISION TO LIVE AND GROW AND RAISE OUR FAMILY HERE IN CARLSBAD.

WE KNOW THEN WE KNOW NOW HOW SPECIAL OF A CITY THIS IS, HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO LIVE HERE, AND HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE TO RAISE OUR FAMILY.

IN SUCH AN ENCHANTING SEASIDE COMMUNITY.

AS I WAS MAKING MY TRANSITION FROM THE MARINE CORPS TO CIVILIAN LIFE, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE DEPUTIZED AS A CAMP COMMANDANT AT CAMP PENDLETON, WHERE I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF FAMILY HOUSING AREAS AND UNIT FACILITIES.

IT WAS IN THIS ROLE THAT I FOUND A PATH TO A CIVILIAN CAREER IN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FROM COMPLEX CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

TO MY CURRENT ROLE WHERE I MANAGE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS LIKE LOOP AND ROOF AND PLUMBING REPAIRS, THE INSTALLATION OF NEW WATERPROOFING SYSTEMS. I HAVE LEARNED HOW TO FIX THINGS WHILE I CONTINUED MY SERVICE TO MY COUNTRY AS A MAJOR IN THE MARINE CORPS RESERVES.

IT IS HERE THAT I BEGAN MY SERVICE TO THE CITY.

SINCE 2021, I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION AND IN THIS CAPACITY HAVE HELPED SHEPHERD IT THROUGH A MULTITUDE OF INITIATIVES FOR THE COUNCIL'S REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

MOST IMPORTANTLY IN UPDATES, THE MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF TRAFFIC RULES RELATED TO E-BIKE USAGE AND MODE OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL IN RESPONSE TO THE DECLARED E-BIKE AND BICYCLE EMERGENCY LAST YEAR.

ADDITIONALLY, I'VE GUIDED THE STAFF AND THE COMMISSION TO TAKE A MORE HOLISTIC LOOK AT EACH ISSUE TO ENSURE THAT WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ADJACENT AND FUTURE PROJECTS AND CONSIDER THE BUDGETARY IMPACTS.

WE TAILOR OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.

OF THE MULTITUDE OF ISSUES FACING COUNCIL.

I BELIEVE THAT I CAN SERVE AS A LEVELHEADED AND MATURE FIGURE TO APPROACH EACH ISSUE WITH AN OPEN MIND AND AN OPEN HEART TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS, STAFF EXPERTS AND COUNSEL WITH EMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING, BUT ALSO WITH AN ANALYTICAL APPROACH BASED IN REASONED DATA.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THIS OPPORTUNITY.

JUST DISTRICT. TWO RESIDENTS SUBMITTED MANY TOPICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.

HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE WHERE TO FOCUS GIVEN YOUR LIMITED TIME IN OFFICE? WHILE THERE ARE MANY ISSUES FACING THE CITY, I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THREE KEY ISSUES THAT DESERVE THE MOST ATTENTION.

AND WE'RE IN COMMON IN THEME AND THE QUESTIONS SUBMITTED FROM THE LOCAL POPULATION.

FIRST IS TO ENSURE THAT THE RESPONSE TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS CRISIS IS EFFECTIVE AND IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER AND CHARM OF OUR CITY.

WHILE THE STATE HAS MANDATED LARGER AND OVERARCHING GOALS, IT IS UP TO THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS WITHIN THE NATURAL CHARM THAT IS CARLSBAD.

SECONDLY, THE CITY HAS MADE GREAT STRIDES IN DEVELOPING A PROGRAM TO ENHANCE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THIS MOMENTUM BE SUSTAINED FOR THE LONG TERM TO CREATE A NETWORK OF INTERWOVEN PATHWAYS FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION THAT KEEP OUR CITIZENS MOVING TO WORK, TO SCHOOL OR TO THE BEACH.

AND LASTLY, THE BEACHES OF CARLSBAD ARE A NATIONAL TREASURE AND WORTH PROTECTING AND PRESERVING.

THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A LONG TERM PLAN TO ENSURE NOT ONLY THE VIABILITY OF OUR BEACHES, BUT THAT ACCESSIBILITY AND FUNCTIONALITY AS A DESTINATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS IS A TOP PRIORITY. COUNCIL MUST WORK TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP ON THESE ISSUES TO ENSURE THAT THE BEACH THAT CARLSBAD REMAINS THE GREATEST CITY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT CANDIDATE, PLEASE.

STEPHEN AHLQUIST? GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL STAFF.

I'M STEPHEN AHLQUIST.

I JUST CAME HOME FROM ARIZONA TODAY, SO I HAVE NOT HAD A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO PREPARE FOR THIS.

OTHER THAN HAVING MOVED TO CARLSBAD IN 1965, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

MY JOB IN BANKING, A CAREER OF 31 YEARS, TOOK ME OUT OF CARLSBAD TWICE, ONCE TO HEMET AND ONCE TO TEMECULA.

AND ALL THOSE COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING CARLSBAD AND VISTA, WHERE I WAS HEADQUARTERED IN ONE OF THE BANKS.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES.

I WAS THE FOUNDING DIRECTOR OF THE VISTA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

I WAS THE FOUNDING VICE CHAIRMAN FOR THE TEMECULA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

AND HAVING WORKED IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY FOR 31 YEARS, IT'S A HIGHLY REGULATED INDUSTRY.

SO WHILE NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE THE PROCESSES OF THE CITY, IT'S SIMILAR IN THE FACT THAT THERE'S RULES, THERE'S REGULATIONS, THERE'S POLICIES, THERE'S PROCEDURES THAT NEED TO BE FOLLOWED. HAVING GRADUATED FROM CARLSBAD HIGH SCHOOL IN 1969, I MARRIED MY HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEART THREE YEARS LATER.

WE'VE NOW CELEBRATED 50 YEARS OF MARITAL BLISS.

OUR TWO CHILDREN LIVED HERE IN CARLSBAD, WENT TO CARLSBAD SCHOOLS.

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AND WE'VE SEEN CARLSBAD GROW.

MY WIFE AND HER FAMILY MOVED HERE WHEN SHE WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD IN 1958.

SO WE'VE SEEN THE CITY GROW FROM A VERY SMALL TOWN TO A TO THE GEM OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

I OWN MY HOME HERE IN CARLSBAD SINCE 1984.

HAVING LIVED IN TWO OTHER CITIES SOME OF THAT TIME, THE BANKING CAREER INVOLVED IN BOTH HEMET AND TEMECULA AND THROUGHOUT NORTH COUNTY, I WORKED FOR THREE OF SAN DIEGO'S PREMIER FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, NONE OF WHICH ARE AMONG US ANYMORE.

AS MOST OF THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS OF THE SMALL INDEPENDENT COMMUNITY BANKS ARE NOW GONE.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY I'M INVOLVED IN ROTARY.

I'M INVOLVED IN I'M A SENIOR VOLUNTEER FOR THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL.

IN MY EARLY DAYS BEFORE MOVING INTO THE BANKING CAREER, I WAS A RESERVE DEPUTY SHERIFF FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY HEADQUARTERED OUT OF VISTA.

AND I BELIEVE THAT MY EXPERIENCE IN BEING A BANK ADMINISTRATOR FOR 15 YEARS, AS WELL AS A 31 YEAR CAREER IN THAT INDUSTRY, QUALIFY ME FOR A POSITION WHERE I COULD WORK WITH COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES THAT CARLSBAD IS FACING.

AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

STEPHEN, DISTRICT 2 RESIDENTS SUBMITTED MANY TOPICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.

HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE WHERE TO FOCUS GIVEN YOUR LIMITED TIME IN OFFICE? CARLSBAD HAS A NUMBER OF ISSUES, BUT IS THE GEM OF SAN DIEGO.

I THINK THAT THE ISSUES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, SOME OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES MENTIONED THE BEACH.

THE BEACH IS, NUMBER ONE, MAINTAINING THE VILLAGE, MAINTAINING A COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO.

WHEN WE FIRST MOVED TO HEMET IN 1979 AND WE TOLD PEOPLE WE FROM WE WERE FROM CARLSBAD, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE CARLSBAD WAS.

IT WAS A SMALL LITTLE BURG, DIDN'T HAVE MUCH ATTENTION THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY OR THE STATE, FOR THAT MATTER.

IT HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.

SO I THINK IT'S MOST IMPERATIVE THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD THIS COMMUNITY'S BUSINESS AS WELL AS TOURISM AND BEACHES. I'M I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT ARE DEALING WITH E-BIKES, AS WE'VE ALL SEEN.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS REGARDING E-BIKES WITH THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE RIDING BIKES.

I LIVE DOWN BY KELLY SCHOOL AND CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE SEEN BICYCLISTS, NOT KIDS, ADULT BICYCLISTS GO THE WRONG WAY ON THE ROUNDABOUT ON PARK AND KELLY DRIVE BECAUSE IT'S MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO DO SO WHEN THEY DRIVE AGAINST TRAFFIC BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A RUSH TO NOT GO AROUND THE CIRCLE.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I WOULD FOCUS ON AS LONG AS WELL AS THOSE THAT WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. NEXT APPLICANT, PLEASE.

BRIAN PEELING.

HELLO, MY NAME IS BRIAN PEELING.

I'LL KEEP THIS EXTREMELY QUICK.

I AM A LOCAL RESIDENT.

BEEN HERE SINCE 2018.

I GREW UP DOWN IN SAN DIEGO, POINT LOMA AREA.

THE LAST 20 YEARS I'VE BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION, BOTH ON A GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND THE OWNER SIDE, VARIOUS LEVELS.

I STARTED WORKING FOR JOHN MOORES, THE OWNER OF THE PADRES IN 2000 BUILDING PETCO PARK.

SO I WORKED WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT, AND THE OMNI HOTEL IS ATTACHED TO IT.

AND SINCE THEN I HAVE MIXED TEN PLUS YEARS WITH THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR SIDE AND ANOTHER TEN PLUS YEARS ON A DEVELOPMENT SIDE.

I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN EVIL DEVELOPERS, BUT THAT EXPERIENCE HAS ALLOWED ME TO WORK WITH MUNICIPALITIES BETWEEN SANTA CLARA UP NORTH LA, ORANGE COUNTY AND SAN DIEGO.

SO I'VE BEEN ON THE RESIDENT SIDE, THE PRIVATE SIDE, WORKING WITH THE CITY TO GET THINGS DONE.

I HAVE PROBABLY SPENT THE MAJORITY OF MY TIME DEALING WITH CITIZENS AND THE BUILDING OF CERTAIN PROJECTS AND HOW WE CAN BETTER THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE BRINGING OFFICE WORK, RETAIL, WHAT I'M HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH.

BEING ON THE COUNCIL IS A PRIVATE CITIZEN THAT HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE GOVERNMENT WHATSOEVER.

THAT IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE, NOT OF ANY OTHER SPECIAL INTERESTS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE AND I'VE SEEN NOT THIS, BUT OTHER BODIES CONNECTED TO DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING. AND I'VE SEEN THE UGLY SIDE OF IT AND HOW THINGS GET DONE.

I WANT TO BE THE VOICE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

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WHEN WE MOVED HERE IN 18, MOVED INTO ROBERTSON RANCH, BRAND NEW COMMUNITY.

IT WAS A DISASTER.

I JOINED THE HOA RIGHT AWAY TO TRY TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND RESIDENCE VERSUS BUILDER.

WHAT THE BUILDER WAS TRYING TO DO TO THE RESIDENTS, I CAME IN AND FOUGHT TOLL BROTHERS TO BASICALLY SAY, NO, THIS IS WHAT WE AS PEOPLE DESERVE FROM A BUILDER, FROM A PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S SWITCHING OVER TO US.

I WANT TO DO THAT SAME THING FOR THE CONSTITUENTS OF DISTRICT TWO, AND THAT'S MY ONLY GOAL, IS REALLY TO BE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

I'LL END IT THERE. ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? BRIAN, DISTRICT 2 RESIDENTS SUBMITTED MANY TOPICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.

HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE WHERE TO FOCUS GIVEN YOUR LIMITED TIME IN OFFICE? ONE FIRST PART. SO I WENT TO SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY.

I GRADUATED ECONOMICS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED RIGHT OFF THE BAT IS THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A SOLUTION.

NOW, IT SOUNDS TERRIBLE, BUT THERE'S ONLY TRADEOFFS.

SO YOU CAN DO THIS OR YOU CAN DO THIS, AND YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THE OPTIONS AND MAKE THE BEST CHOICE POSSIBLE.

SO MY FIRST GOAL WOULD BE TO I'VE READ OVER ALL THE DIFFERENT CONCERNS.

AND THEY ARE THEY ARE ALL THE DISTRICTS.

THE WAY I WOULD WOULD ATTACK IT WOULD BE THE SAME WAY THAT I WOULD DO IN MY WORK.

YOU LOOK AT THE THINGS YOU CAN TOUCH ON THE QUICKEST.

YOU GO AFTER THOSE, TRY TO SOLVE THOSE FASTER, THE ONES THAT ARE MORE LONG TERM.

YOU FOLLOW THAT PROCESS ALONG THE WAY.

BUT ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS, LIVING HERE, LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS THAT I ALREADY DO, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RISING CRIME.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOMELESSNESS THAT'S GETTING THERE.

I SAID I WAS FROM POINT LOMA.

IF YOU GO TO OCEAN BEACH RIGHT NOW, IT'S WHAT CARLSBAD WILL BECOME IF WE DO NOT CHANGE WHAT WE DO.

MY PAST LIFE, I WAS A PROFESSIONAL SOCCER PLAYER.

AT ONE POINT I PLAYED IN SEATTLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SPENT ANY TIME IN SEATTLE? IT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET IT GO.

IF WE DO NOT ADDRESS IT NOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO END WELL.

I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND.

I'VE LIVED IT. I'VE EXPERIENCED IT.

AND IT'S WHY I DON'T LIVE IN POINT LOMA.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE. I DON'T WANT CARLSBAD TO GO THAT WAY.

THE CRIME THAT'S BEEN GOING ON RECENTLY, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS JUST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE BEEN BROKEN INTO.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF FRIENDS THAT ARE VERY HIGH UP AND NOT THE CARLSBAD POLICE FORCE, BUT THE SAN DIEGO POLICE FORCE.

AND THEY'LL CALL ME FROM TIME TO TIME AND SAY, HEY, DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THAT HOUSE BROKEN? AND I'M LIKE, YEP. OR YOU TALKED TO THE RESIDENT.

THERE IS A CHANGE IN CARLSBAD AS WE GET BIGGER, PROBLEMS ARE ARISING.

SO PUBLIC SAFETY IS PROBABLY MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE THAT THEN TRICKLES DOWN.

PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY TO WALK TO HANDLES AND GET ICE CREAM WITH THEIR KIDS.

THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO PATRONIZE THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE DOWN THERE IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SAFE AND CAN WALK AROUND.

SO PUBLIC SAFETY IS BY FAR MY NUMBER ONE GOAL.

THANK YOU. NEXT APPLICANT, PLEASE.

JAMIE JACOBS, PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY AS A CANDIDATE FOR THE OPEN DISTRICT 2 SEAT ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JAMIE LATIANA JACOBS, AND I AM A CARLSBAD NATIVE ENTREPRENEUR, GLOBAL BUSINESS AND HUMAN RESOURCES EXECUTIVE.

WITH DECADES OF EXPERIENCE CREATING HIGH PERFORMING HR TEAMS AND ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURES THAT HELP EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES CONTRIBUTE, GROW AND DELIVER GREAT WORK. I'M SEEKING TO JOIN YOU BECAUSE I WANT TO PRESERVE CARLSBAD'S STATUS AS A HIDDEN GEM IN THE SOUTH SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COASTLINE.

IT'S NO ACCIDENT THAT CARLSBAD ENJOYS SO MANY VIRTUES.

FOR GENERATIONS, THIS COUNCIL HAS RESPONSIBLY GUIDED OUR CITY'S DEVELOPMENT.

I SHARE YOUR COMMITMENT TO CARLSBAD'S WELL-BEING, AND I BELIEVE THAT MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND MY WIN WIN MENTALITY CAN BE A FORCE FOR GOOD.

MY GOAL IS TO WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU, WITH CITY STAFF, WITH OUR RESIDENTS, TO MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE CARLSBAD'S UNIQUE CHARACTER AND TO ENSURE THAT IT REMAINS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND RAISE A FAMILY.

I'M A PROUD GRADUATE OF THE SAN DIEGO HIGH SCHOOL AND HOLD UNDERGRADUATE DEGREES IN HISTORY AND POLITICAL SCIENCE FROM UCSD AND AN MBA FROM CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY UP IN ORANGE COUNTY. I'M ALSO A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL HUMAN RESOURCES ASSOCIATION, A PROFESSOR AT USC, A CERTIFIED COACH AND A SPEAKER ON LEADERSHIP, MENTAL HEALTH IN THE WORKPLACE, WORKFORCE TRENDS, ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURE, AND A COAUTHOR OF THE BOOK DESIGNING EXCEPTIONAL ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURES.

MY DAUGHTER ATTENDED SAGE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL AND ACOSTA COLLEGE, AND MY HUSBAND AND I BOTH OWNED CARLSBAD BASED BUSINESSES.

I'VE BUILT TWO SUCCESSFUL NATIONAL COMPANIES BASED HERE IN CARLSBAD.

ONE OF THEM, GIG TALENT, IS ALL ABOUT UNLOCKING THE POTENTIAL FOR MUTUAL SUCCESS.

WE CONNECT HIGH CALIBER HR CONSULTANTS AND COACHES WITH OPPORTUNITIES AT DYNAMIC ORGANIZATIONS, WHERE THEIR EXPERTISE HELPS BUILD GREAT COMPANY CULTURES AND DELIVER BUSINESS RESULTS.

MY GOAL IS TO APPLY THAT SAME WIN WIN MINDSET TO EVERY ASPECT, EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIFE.

AS A LONG TIME CARLSBAD RESIDENT, I'M COMMITTED TO GIVING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS PROVIDED SO MUCH TO ME AND OUR FAMILY.

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I HAVE DECADES OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE IN NORTH COUNTY, HAVING SHADOWED THE ENCINITAS MAYOR AS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT, BEING A MEMBER OF THE SAGE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL SITE COUNCIL AND CURRENTLY SERVING AS A COMMISSIONER ON THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE AND AS A ALTERNATE ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.

I HAVE ALSO BEEN INVOLVED IN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IN BOTH ORANGE COUNTY AND SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND HAVE SERVED AS A BOARD MEMBER FOR NUMEROUS PROFESSIONAL AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. AS SOMEONE WHO LITERALLY WROTE THE BOOK ON THE IMPORTANCE OF LEADERSHIP DURING TIMES OF CHANGE AND THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT ALL PERSPECTIVES AND CONSIDERATIONS FOR DECISION MAKING, I BELIEVE THESE ARE STRONG SYNERGIES BETWEEN MY BACKGROUND AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS BODY.

IT WOULD BE A PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH EACH OF YOU TO PRESERVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN CARLSBAD WHILE AT THE SAME TIME EXPANDING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE.

I WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE AND TRANSPARENT AS A MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL, AND I WILL PRIORITIZE ISSUES SUCH AS INFRASTRUCTURE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HELPING THE CITY'S UNHOUSED POPULATION, AND THE NEED TO BALANCE PRUDENT FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT WITH OUR SHARED GOAL OF LONG TERM SUCCESS.

AS A BUSINESS LEADER WITH A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF CREATING A THRIVING AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY.

I WOULD BE HONORED TO BRING MY SKILLS, EXPERIENCE AND VALUES TO SERVING THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY.

I HUMBLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

SO TOGETHER WE CAN WORK TOWARD A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR CARLSBAD AND A WIN WIN OUTCOME FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. JAMIE.

DISTRICT TWO RESIDENTS SUBMITTED MANY TOPICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.

HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE WHERE TO FOCUS GIVEN THE LIMITED TIME, GIVEN YOUR LIMITED TIME IN OFFICE? THANK YOU. IT WAS REALLY INSPIRING TO SEE ALL THE COMMENTS AND SUBMISSIONS FROM FROM DISTRICT TWO RESIDENTS.

AS A FELLOW DISTRICT, TWO RESIDENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEMBER WROTE TO ME IN A DIRECT MESSAGE.

SHE SAID. YOU KNOW, YOU BRING A LOT OF VALUE BY BRINGING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO OUR CITY COUNCIL.

AND I THINK THAT THAT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WOULD ALLOW ME TO ASK POWERFUL QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AS PART OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE TO HEAR FIRSTHAND BOTH FROM STAFF MEMBERS OF THE CITY ON ACROSS ALL OF THESE ISSUES AND ALSO FROM OUR CONCERNED CITIZENS.

SO THAT'S BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL.

I KIND OF AM GOING TO I KNOW THAT SOME OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE REPORT BEFORE IT WOULD COME TO US AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND THOSE ISSUES ARE OF WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT, AS WELL AS THINGS AS ALL THE OTHER APPLICANTS HAVE HAVE MENTIONED.

BUT IT CERTAINLY IS IS WONDERFUL TO ME TO BE ABLE TO TO LISTEN TO OUR CITIZENS FOCUS ON THESE ISSUES.

IT'S NO QUESTION THAT LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, UNDERSTANDING OUR BUSINESS CLIMATE HERE, OUR WORKFORCE, CLIMATE HERE, AND AS WELL AS THINGS LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY ARE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US AND WE'RE TAKING GREAT ACTION.

THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN VERY INSPIRING TO ME TO UNDERSTAND THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT STAYS ON TRACK.

SO THAT WOULD I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE.

THANK YOU. NEXT STEP, PLEASE.

WILLIAM FOWLER, PLEASE.

MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

ON DECEMBER 1ST, 19, 2016, I APPEARED BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TO SPEAK AGAINST A CERTAIN PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

THE COUNCIL THAT EVENING WAS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IT IS NOW.

THIS COUNCIL'S DIVERSITY BETTER REFLECTS TODAY'S CARLSBAD.

GETTING HERE HAS BEEN CHALLENGING.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE COOPERATION AND CONSENSUS CONSENSUS ON OUR COUNCIL.

AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I WILL DEDICATE MYSELF TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL.

MY APPLICATION IDENTIFIED THREE CRITICAL ISSUES FACING CARLSBAD MOVING FORWARD HOUSING, TRAFFIC, SAFETY AND PARKS, AND OPEN SPACE.

OF COURSE, THERE ARE MANY OTHER CRITICAL ISSUES FACING CARLSBAD, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES I'VE CHOSEN TO DISCUSS TODAY.

LET'S START WITH HOUSING.

CARLSBAD NEEDS MORE HOUSING.

STATE LAWS HAVE TAKEN AWAY TOOLS WE USE TO CONTROL GROWTH.

WE ALSO FACE STATE DEMANDS TO BUILD MANY MORE HOMES.

AND OUR THAN OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN ENVISIONS UNCONTROLLED GROWTH HAVE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, LIBRARIES, SEWERS, PARKS, OPEN SPACES AND SO FORTH.

WE SIMPLY CAN'T APPROVE ALL PROJECTS REGARDLESS OF THE DEMANDS THEY PLACE ON OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

I WILL WORK TO IMPROVE TO APPROVE PROJECTS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE US TO MAKE ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT WE MUST FIND WAYS TO PAY FOR NEW FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT WILL NOT BE PROVIDED BY DEVELOPERS, WAYS THAT DO NOT DEPEND ON CARLSBAD TAXPAYERS TRAFFIC SAFETY. OUR COUNCIL DECLARED A TRAFFIC SAFETY STATE OF EMERGENCY.

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WE INVESTED IN BIKE EDUCATION, ROADWAY RESTRIPING ADDITIONAL POLICE PRESENCE ON OUR STREET.

THIS IS GREAT LEADERSHIP AND THAT IS THE KEY TO COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

AND SOON THE COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER VISION ZERO A PROGRAM TO ELIMINATE TRAFFIC FATALITIES.

I SUPPORT THE GOALS OF THAT PROGRAM AND MANY OF ITS ELEMENTS, INCLUDING ROUNDABOUTS, WELL DESIGNED ROUNDABOUTS.

PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.

THE LOVE PARKS WILL ALWAYS SAY MORE IS BETTER, BUT PUBLIC LAND IS SCARCE AND OUR BUDGET IS LIMITED.

SATISFYING EVERYONE'S DESIRE FOR PARKS WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE.

STILL, I WANT TO SEE US WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE EQUITY AND CARLSBAD'S PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.

FINALLY, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO BE AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, A CONSENSUS BUILDER, A POSITIVE VOICE FOR THE FUTURE OF CARLSBAD, AND A TRANSPARENT ADVOCATE FOR DISTRICT 2 ISSUES THAT COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

AND I PROMISE TO BE AS PARSIMONIOUS IN MY COMMENTS BEFORE COUNCIL AS I AM TODAY.

IF YOU GIVE ME 4 MINUTES, I'LL TAKE THREE.

THANK YOU. BILL DISTRICT 2 RESIDENTS SUBMITTED MANY TOPICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.

HOW WOULD YOU DECIDE WHERE TO FOCUS GIVEN YOUR LIMITED TIME IN OFFICE? YES, THEY MENTIONED ALL THE CRITICAL ISSUES THAT WE FACE IN CARLSBAD AS WELL.

I THINK I WOULD START WITH TRAFFIC OF MOBILITY SAFETY, BECAUSE THAT'S MY GREATEST EXPERIENCE WITHIN CARLSBAD.

AND JUST TO MAKE A NOTE ABOUT WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS THERE IS A ROUNDABOUT IN DISTRICT 2, WHICH I DO NOT FEEL IS CORRECTLY EITHER DESIGNED OR IMPLEMENTED.

SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE FIRST THING THAT I WOULD THINK OF.

TO BE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN.

BUT THE MODEL REALLY IS BEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND WALKING INTERSECTIONS TO SEE IF THEY'RE SAFE AND TO SEE IF WHAT COMMUNITY SAYS ABOUT THEM IS TRUE AND TAKING FEEDBACK IN THE WAY THAT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE DOES WITH COFFEE CLASHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THE LESSON IS REALLY TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND BE ACTIVE IN IT.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE APPLICANTS.

WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? NEXT STEP, THE CITY CLERK WILL PROVIDE A BALLOT TO EACH ONE OF YOU, AND THEN YOU WILL WRITE DOWN UP TO THREE NAMES ON THE BALLOT.

AND THEN THE CLERK WILL PICK THEM UP FROM YOU.

NOW, THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE FORCED TO WRITE THREE NAMES.

WE CAN WRITE TWO IF WE CHOOSE.

CORRECT. UP TO THREE.

THANK YOU. THREE DIFFERENT NAMES.

WOULD NOW BE A GOOD TIME TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK WHILE YOU PUT THIS TOGETHER.

ACTUALLY, THE CLERK IS GOING TO ANNOUNCE THE NAMES.

WE'RE GOING TO POPULATE A SLIDE AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT SLIDE UP.

OKAY, THAT'S PERFECT.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE READING FROM THESE IN THE ORDER THAT ROLL IS TAKEN.

CAROLYN LUNA.

JUST CONFIRMING. THAT'S COUNCIL BURKHOLDER.

YES. OKAY. AND STEPHEN AHLQUIST.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA CAROLYN LUNA.

MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL CAROLYN LUNA.

AND WILLIAM FOWLER.

MAYOR BLACKBURN.

CAROLYN LUNA.

AND JOSH COELHO.

I DON'T NEED THE STAFF TO DO THE MATH FOR ME.

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SO WHAT NOW? WHAT'S THE PROPER PROCEDURE FROM HERE? WE WOULD ASK THAT SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT, AND THEN ONCE THAT VOTE IS TAKEN, THEN WE WOULD ASK FOR A RECESS SO WE CAN PUT SOME THINGS TOGETHER TO DO THAT OATH OF OFFICE.

MY MOTION IS THE D2 REPRESENTATIVE BE CAROLYN LUNA.

SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT TO THOSE APPLICANTS WHO WEREN'T SELECTED.

16 YEARS AGO, I STOOD THERE WHEN NOREEN ZICKEFOOSE LEFT HER JOB EARLY, AND I DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID, EXCEPT WE HAD, I WANT TO SAY THERE WAS 21 OR 22 APPLICANTS.

I WAS NOT SELECTED.

JULIE NYGAARD WAS, BUT I THEN RAN AND THE NEXT ELECTION AND WON.

SO PLEASE DON'T LET THIS FRUSTRATE YOU THAT YOU WEREN'T THE ONE OUT OF SEVEN WHO WAS SELECTED.

PLEASE STAY INVOLVED.

AND IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU SHOULD THEN PLEASE RUN.

THE ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE OVER CAROLYN LUNA IS SHE CAN'T RUN IN TWO YEARS, BUT ANY OF YOU GUYS CAN.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INTEREST.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN I FIRST THOUGHT OF AN APPOINTMENT, I THOUGHT THIS MADE MORE SENSE THAN AN ELECTION.

BUT I THOUGHT, WHAT IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? TODAY, I REALIZED THAT WAS NOT A CONCERN.

WE HAVE SOME OUTRAGEOUSLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES, AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND PLEASE KEEP DOING IT.

AND WE ARE IN AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS.

TEN MINUTE RECESS.

OH. OH, I'M SO SORRY.

YES. COMMENTS.

MS. BURKHOLDER? I JUST,I HOGGED THE MICROPHONE.

THANK YOU. NO, I WANT TO ECHO NOT ONLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE TALENT IN THE ROOM, BUT JUST GETTING INVOLVED.

WE CAN ALWAYS USE EXTRA SETS OF EYES AND EARS EVERYWHERE, HELPING US OUT, AND ALSO JUST BEING A D1 REP.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU THAT THOSE OF YOU WHO MENTIONED HOMELESSNESS AS AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S CONCENTRATED IN DISTRICT ONE.

SO THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF HOPE THAT YOU ARE AWARE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S OUT THERE AND IF YOU WANT TO HELP ME TACKLE THAT, CALL ME.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO APPLIED.

I AGREE, WE HAD VERY IMPRESSIVE CANDIDATES.

WE HAD THREE COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAD REALLY EXCELLENT EXPERIENCE AND SKILLS BEING OFFERED IN THIS POSITION.

AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO STAY ENGAGED AND CONTACT US AND LET US KNOW YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON DIFFERENT ISSUES.

AND I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU, AS THE MAYOR DID, TO CONSIDER RUNNING FOR THE ACTUAL ELECTED SEAT IN NOVEMBER 2024.

THANK YOU. I WON'T REPEAT WHAT'S BEEN SAID, BUT I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING TIME TO APPLY AND TO BE IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC.

IT TAKES A LOT, SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING AN 11 MINUTE RECESS.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AT EXACTLY 4:00 PM.

IT'S 4:00. LET'S CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

AND I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS THE CLERK WILL SWEAR IN THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER.

[District 2 City Council Member Oath of Office]

IS THAT ACCURATE? YES.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

I, STATE YOUR NAME.

I, CAROLYN LUNA.

DO SOLEMNLY AFFIRM.

DO SOLEMNLY AFFIRM.

THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND.

THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND.

THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AGAINST ALL ENEMIES.

AGAINST ALL ENEMIES.

FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE.

THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE.

TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY.

THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY.

WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION.

WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION.

OR PURPOSE OF EVASION.

OR PURPOSE OF EVASION.

AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY.

AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY.

DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER.

DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER.

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THANK YOU.

CAROLYN, WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEAT?

[2. REORGANIZATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ELECTION OF MAYOR PRO TEMPORE, REGIONAL COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS AND SUBCOMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS ]

. NEXT IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

CITY MANAGER, WILL YOU KICK US OFF? YES, SIR. AND ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE REORGANIZATION OF CITY COUNCIL ELECTION OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM, REGIONAL COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS AND SUBCOMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES DIRECTOR SHEILA COBAIN, ALONG WITH OUR CLERK SERVICES MANAGER, FAVIOLA MEDINA.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE HAVE BROUGHT THE REGIONAL APPOINTMENTS ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS AFTERNOON.

YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION OF RECONSIDERING ALL OF THE ASSIGNMENTS YOU MADE ON JANUARY 10TH OR JUST THE OUTSTANDING ASSIGNMENTS.

OR YOU COULD CHOOSE TO CONTINUE THE ITEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY PROXY VOTE.

WE DO NEED YOU TO VOTE ON THAT ITEM THIS AFTERNOON.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. WE'LL START WITH MS. BHAT-PATEL. I'M NOT GOING TO START WITH YOU, MS. LUNA. THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR.

GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU.

AND CONGRATULATIONS, MS. LUNA. BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON YOUR APPOINTMENT, IT WAS GREAT TO SEE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AND WELCOME TO THE TEAM.

SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE? IS THIS THE FULL LIST? THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SEE THE FULL LIST TO SEE WHAT WE ALL HAVE.

GREAT. SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, ALL OF US ARE KIND OF PULLED IN MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

AND CLEARLY, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON WHAT EVERYONE THINKS OR HAS TO SAY.

BUT THE MAIN COMMITTEE IN QUESTION, WHICH IS BLANK, IS SANDAG.

AND I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN A CONTENTIOUS TOPIC FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WE MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME.

YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY ALREADY HAVE ALTERNATES.

THE MAIN POSITION THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IS A PRIMARY.

AND SO FOR THAT, JUST, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE AND BRAINSTORMING.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TERMS OF MAYBE SOMEBODY WHO HAS AND, MS. LUNA, I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF PLANNING EXPERIENCE JUST LISTENING TO YOU WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING.

AN EASY SOLUTION COULD BE HAVING MS. LUNA STEP IN AS A PRIMARY PERSON ON THAT.

AND THEN THE ALTERNATE STAY, WHICH WOULD BE MAYOR BLACKBURN AND MYSELF.

AND SINCE MS. LUNA, YOU HAVE SO MUCH I THINK IT WAS 30 YEARS.

IF I LOOK BACK AT YOUR APPLICATION OF PLANNING EXPERIENCE AND JUST SOMEBODY WHO COULD ACTUALLY DEVOTE ALL OF YOUR TIME TO THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, GIVEN THAT ALL OF US ARE COMMITTED TO MANY OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AS A POTENTIAL OPTION.

AND I THINK OBVIOUSLY SANDAG TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY.

IT IS EVERY OTHER WEEK.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TIME COMMITMENTS WOULD BE, BUT I'D JUST BE CURIOUS TO, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE.

GIVEN THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WOULD BRING A BALANCED APPROACH TO THE TABLE.

IT IS. IT'S UNFORTUNATELY, AS MUCH AS I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, IT HAS BECOME HIGHLY PARTIZAN.

AND I THINK FROM WHAT YOU SHARED, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE MORE OF A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD APPROACH.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE BALANCED REPRESENTATION.

AND WITH THE ALTERNATES, I THINK YOU'D HAVE HOPEFULLY THAT BALANCED REPRESENTATION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AS AN OPTION AND SEE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO SAY.

MS. ACOSTA. THANK YOU.

WAS THAT A QUESTION TO DIRECT IT TO MS. LUNA? IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER, COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA.

WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT MY TOE IN THE WATER, SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT ALL OF YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY.

THAT'S FINE. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO ANSWER RIGHT AWAY.

SO LOOKING AT THIS LIST AND I HEARD THE OPTIONS WERE TO KIND OF REORGANIZE EVERYTHING OR JUST GO WITH THE VACANCIES.

I SEE ON THIS BIGGER LIST THAT WE'VE GOT THE HOMELESS ACTION COMMITTEE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

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RIGHT. SO WE TOOK THAT OFF THE LIST LAST TIME.

CORRECT. SO THOSE ARE REMOVED.

SO REALLY, IT'S JUST THE ONES AT THE TOP, THE THE SANDAG ONES TO FIVE SANDAG ONES.

AND WE DO HAVE CURRENT ALTERNATES FOR THOSE WHICH WE COULD MAINTAIN.

THEN THERE'S ALSO THE WATER PROXY.

AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I AM THE WATER AUTHORITY APPOINTEE PRIMARILY OR ONE OF THE TWO PRIMARY APPOINTEES RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF A PROXY FORM SIGNED.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? YES, THEY WOULD NEED A NEW UPDATED FORM.

THE OLD FORM HAS THE OLD APPOINTEES LISTED ON THERE, AND THIS ONE WOULD NOT SPECIFY WHO, SO IT'D BE MORE OF A BLANKET PROXY.

RIGHT. SO IT WOULD SAY THE THE APPOINTEES APPOINTED BY THE CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL TO THESE POSITIONS.

SO IT COULD BE AN EVERGREEN PROXY FORM, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. IT WOULD BE MORE OF THAT.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT WE'VE DRAFTED AND THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT.

RIGHT. THEY NEED THAT RIGHT AWAY.

OKAY, GREAT. SO I'M OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF THE WATER PROXY.

THE HOMELESS COMMITTEE IS NOT ON THERE.

AND THE ONLY QUESTION IS SANDAG.

I AM, YOU KNOW, I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DEADLOCKED LAST TIME.

AND I AM CURIOUS ABOUT MY COLLEAGUE'S THOUGHTS AS WELL.

I WASN'T EVEN SURE THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION SO SOON RIGHT AWAY, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD BE SELECTING SOMEBODY TODAY AND THEN HAVING TO MAKE THIS DECISION RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT HAVING OUR CANDIDATES FOR FOR THE COUNCIL POSITION HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT SINCE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, I'M GUESSING THAT ALL OF THE CANDIDATES TOOK A LOOK AT THIS AS ITEM NUMBER TWO AND HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

SO I AM ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER LUNA'S INTEREST WITH HER LONG BACKGROUND IN PLANNING, ESSENTIALLY HER EXPERTISE IN PLANNING, NOT JUST ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IN HER CAREER.

I'M CURIOUS TO SEE IF SHE WOULD BE THAT PERSON THAT IS MORE OF A NEUTRAL APPOINTEE TO SANDAG FROM OUR CITY.

SO I, I WOULD BE CURIOUS AND INTERESTED IN HEARING HER THOUGHTS ON THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. MS. BURKHOLDER? THANK YOU. YES, THIS IS LOOKING AT THE LIST.

WE DO HAVE THE LION'S SHARE OF THE COMMITMENTS TO THESE COMMITTEES AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SHORT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO THANKS FOR JOINING A BOARD HERE AND I'M HAPPY AND CONGRATULATIONS, CAROLYN, COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA AND I'LL PROBABLY MESS THAT UP SEVERAL TIMES.

SORRY, BUT I THINK WITH REGARD TO THE SANDAG APPOINTMENT, I DON'T THINK TAXATION IS A POLITICAL ISSUE.

I THINK IT'S AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS ALL OF US SITTING IN THIS ROOM AND EVERYONE THAT'S LISTENING AND EVERYONE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

SO FOR ME IT'S MORE ABOUT PROTECTING PEOPLE IN NORTH COUNTY AND PROTECTING OUR TAX DOLLARS AND MAKING SURE WHERE APPROPRIATED THE PROJECTS ARE GETTING COMPLETED.

THAT'S NOT PARTIZAN IN MY MIND.

SO I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.

BUT AN ALTERNATE AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL TO HAVING YOU SIT ON SANDAG AND THAT BE IT COULD BE SOMEONE ELSE LIKE THE MAYOR HAS THIS TRADITION OR ANY OF THIS THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN HAVE YOU GO IN WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER LOWER IMPACT COMMITTEES, WHICH IS TRADITION BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO OVERWHELM YOU.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS.

I'M GOING TO GO NEXT.

CAROLYN, I'M SORRY, BUT I JUST SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE ALL OF THE APPOINTMENTS, INCLUDING SANDAG.

I'D LIKE TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED TONIGHT, BUT I'LL ATTACK THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

SANDAG HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN THE MAYOR, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, FIVE YEARS AGO, THE MAYOR COULD EASILY HANDLE SANDAG AND ALL OF HIS MAYORAL DUTIES.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, RIGHT NOW, SANDAG IS A BIT OF A WHAT'S A NICE WORD FOR THAT CONTROVERSIAL AND IT'S GOING TO NEED A LOT OF ATTENTION.

SO MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER OTHER THAN ME BE ON SANDAG BECAUSE THEY CAN GIVE ALL OF THEIR ATTENTION TO IT AND WHOEVER THAT COUNCIL MEMBER IS WILL NOT HAVE THE OBLIGATION OF ANY OTHER ASSIGNMENTS, JUST SANDAG WILL GET THROUGH MAYBE A COUPLE OF YEARS, TWO, THREE, MAYBE EVEN FOUR YEARS, WITH ONE COUNCIL MEMBER GIVING 100% DEDICATION TO SANDAG REPRESENTING OUR CITY AND THE NORTH COUNTY.

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AND THEN WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS GO IN THE FUTURE IS COMPETENT AND CAPABLE, AS I THINK MS. LUNA WOULD BE.

HER TERM IS LESS THAN TWO YEARS AND I THINK IT WOULD TAKE A YEAR OR TWO JUST TO GET CAUGHT UP ON ALL OF THESE COMPLICATED ISSUES.

AND I THINK THAT ONCE MS. LUNA WOULD BE UP TO SPEED AND UP TO DATE ON EVERYTHING, THEN SHE'D BE REPLACED.

SO MY, AND I'M SORRY IF YOUR TERM WOULD BE EXPIRED, YOUR TERM WOULD END.

SO ONE OF MY THOUGHT WE ALL HAVE VERY IMPORTANT COMMITTEE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS THAT MEANT A LOT TO EACH OF US, BUT MS.. BURKHOLDER DOES NOT.

AND I WOULD PROPOSE THAT MS..

BURKHOLDER DIVEST HERSELF OF ALL OF THE COMMITTEES, AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHO WILL TAKE THOSE PLACES.

AND MS.. BURKHOLDER WILL DEDICATE 100% OF HER COMMITTEE TIME TO SANDAG.

AND THAT WOULD BE MY PROPOSAL.

BUT FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MS..

LUNA BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION.

WELL, I'LL START WITH SAYING, IN ALL FAIRNESS TO MS. LUNA, PROBABLY AS I STATED WHEN I WAS SEEKING THIS, THIS POSITION WAS THAT I LIKE TO DO MY DUE DILIGENCE AND I LIKE TO EVALUATE WHAT ALL OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.

AND YES, KNOWING THAT WE WERE APPLYING FOR IT, YES, THE SANDAG COMMITTEE WAS OPEN.

HOWEVER, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXTENT IS OF THE OBLIGATIONS OF YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ON WHAT THE OTHER COMMITTEES ARE.

SO RIGHT NOW I WOULD BE COMMITTING TO SOMETHING THAT I REALLY HAVE NO WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF, AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME COMFORTABLE TODAY, IN THIS MINUTE.

SO I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE AND IN ACCEPTING ALL OF COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER'S, OR MAYBE YOU GUYS MIGHT WANT TO REJIGGER THEM SOMEHOW WITH HER BEING PULLED OUT.

I THINK I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THESE OTHER ASSIGNMENTS REQUIRE AND HOW WOULD I BE MOST EFFECTIVE IN THOSE ASSIGNMENTS.

SO I'LL ADDRESS THAT.

BEING THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU GET STUCK WITH WHAT WE DON'T WANT AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF LIFE.

BUT WE WOULD NOT SADDLE YOU WITH ANYTHING.

THAT IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING AND AND I'LL USE SOME EXAMPLES.

MS. ACOSTA HAS THE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, A BIG CHALLENGE.

MS. BHAT-PATEL HAS THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES,A BIG COMMITMENT.

SOME OF THE COMMITMENTS I WOULD ASK YOU TO TAKE ON WOULD BE ENCINO WASTE WATER.

THE REASON I'D LIKE TO DO THAT RIGHT AWAY IS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR NEW MEMBER ORIENTATIONS COMING UP NEXT WEEK.

I'VE BEEN ON ENCINO WASTEWATER FOR 14 YEARS.

I COULD ASSIST IN ANY WAY, AND IT'S NOT A HUGE CHALLENGE.

SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU MIGHT TAKE ON ARE GOING TO PROBABLY BE LESS TIME CONSUMING AND LESS TECHNICAL THAN ENCINO WASTEWATER, AND THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR TODAY'S APPOINTMENTS.

MS. BHAT-PATEL SAID SHE HAS SOME STATEMENTS TO MAKE.

WELL, I HAD A QUESTION AT THE BEGINNING AND I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS JUST ASKED, BUT MY QUESTION WAS NOT ANSWERED.

SO I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO ANSWER IF YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN POTENTIALLY SERVING ON YOUR SOLE COMMITTEE BEING SANDAG AND NOT TAKING ON ANY OF THE OTHERS BECAUSE IT WOULD SAVE US THE HEARTBURN OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE ASSIGNMENTS AGAIN.

SO I'D JUST BE CURIOUS TO HEAR THAT.

WELL, I HAVE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF REGIONAL COMMITTEES, PARTICULARLY SCAG, OF WHICH THE DIRECTOR OF OF SANDAG HAS HAS COME FROM.

AND I THINK HE HAD OVER 50 JURISDICTIONS THAT HE HAD TO WRESTLE.

SO I'VE ALSO WORKED WITH TWO COUNCILS OF GOVERNMENTS.

RIVERSIDE COUNTY, WHEN I WAS THERE, ONLY IS THE ONLY COUNTY IN THE STATE THAT HAS TWO COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

SO I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE REGIONAL AND ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED.

HOW CAN I SAY RELATED ITEMS TO THAT? I UNDERSTAND THE MAYOR'S CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS OF BEING THERE, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT BE ENOUGH.

AND I MEAN, MR. MAYOR, AND YOU'VE BEEN SERVING AS THE ALTERNATE.

I GUESS I WOULD DEFER TO YOU IF THAT'S NOT WELL SPENT TIME, IF TWO YEARS WOULD NOT BE WELL SPENT, THEN THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. BUT IF IT DOES, THEN I THINK I DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO IN THERE.

SO I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO YOU.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND JUST A FEW COMMENTS.

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YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT EXPERIENCE AND ENSURING THAT AN EXPERIENCED PERSON IS ON THERE.

OUT OF ALL OF US, I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, YES, THE MAYOR HAS MANY YEARS OF LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE.

I HAVE THE SECOND MOST ON THIS COUNCIL.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE GO DOWN THE LINE IN TERMS OF LITERALLY DOWN THE LINE IN TERMS OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT PLANNING EXPERIENCE OUT OF ALL OF OUR RESUMES, MS. LUNA WOULD HAVE THE MOST AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE.

SO I THINK, AGAIN, MS. BURKHOLDER, NO DISRESPECT TO YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT THE MAYOR SHARED WITH REGARDS TO PUTTING YOU AS THE PRIMARY, BUT YOU MENTIONED GETTING SOMEONE UP TO SPEED WOULD TAKE TIME FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S DONE THIS FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIFE, FOR THEIR PROFESSION, AND GETTING UP TO SPEED SHOULDN'T TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS IT SHOULD.

AND AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CLEARLY THERE HAVE BEEN OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ENGAGED IN THAT.

SO I WOULD ACTUALLY STICK TO MY ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.

I DON'T THINK I'D BE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOUR PROPOSAL, MAYOR.

MS. ACOSTA. SURE.

I WANTED TO DIG IN A LITTLE DEEPER ON THE COMMENTS THAT YOU JUST MADE, COUNCILMEMBER LUNA, ABOUT SCAG, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION THAT IS EVEN LARGER THAN SANDAG BECAUSE IT INCORPORATES MORE CITIES, MORE COUNTIES.

AND AND YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD WORKED WITH SCAG, WHICH IS WHERE THE CURRENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SANDAG PREVIOUSLY WORKED.

AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE COGS, THE COUNCILS OF GOVERNMENTS IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY WHERE YOU PREVIOUSLY WORKED.

ISN'T THEIR FOCUS THE SAME AS SANDBAGS IN TERMS OF REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS? WELL THERE AT A TIME, YES.

HOWEVER, ADDITIONALLY, AT THE TIME WHEN THOSE ISSUES WERE COMING UP AND THEY HAVE LOS ANGELES COUNTY, SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY, RIVERSIDE COUNTY AND ORANGE COUNTY, AT THE SAME TIME, NEW LAWS WERE COMING BASICALLY TO STOP GROWTH.

AND THAT WAS THE ANSWER FROM OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS WAS HABITAT CONSERVATION PLANNING.

AND SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN HERE.

SO THEY UNIQUELY TIED A LINKAGE WITH BEING ABLE TO OBTAIN CERTAIN PERMITS AND CERTAIN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.

PEDESTRIAN ALSO TIED TO THE HABITAT CONSERVATION PLANNING EFFORTS.

SO THEY WERE IN A REALLY UNIQUE POSITION AND VERY FORTUNATE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO GET DEVELOPMENT GOING FORWARD AND HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO COME IN AND FUND THE DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE OCCURRING IN THAT REGION.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS UNFORTUNATELY IN OUR REGION SOUTH, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THE PLANNING HAS BEEN NEGLECTED AND THERE'S BEEN A FOCUS ON ARE WE DOING PEDESTRIAN FOCUSING ON THAT? ARE WE DOING MORE AUTO? WE HAVE STATE ARB WHO ACTUALLY IS THE BIG GORILLA IN THE ROOM AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE TAX AVERSE AND I DON'T BLAME THEM, ESPECIALLY COMING OUT OF COVID, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPALITIES.

AND IT'S LIKE, HOW MUCH MORE DO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR WHAT? SO GLOBALLY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BIG VISION AND UP AT SCAG, WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IS SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OPEN SPACE, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT CONSERVATION PLANNING. WHAT DID THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY GET OUT OF IT, THE BUILDING INDUSTRY, THE REALTORS, AS WELL AS WHAT DID WE AS A CITY JURISDICTION AND WHAT WAS WHERE WAS THE FUNDING ULTIMATELY PLACED ON AND WHO.

SO THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE OVER THERE.

AND WHAT WE HANDLED WAS IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY WAS WORKING WITH BUILDING INDUSTRY, WORKING WITH FARMERS, WORKING WITH HOW THEY WOULD BE IMPACTED AND BASICALLY THE FEE STRUCTURE, WHAT WOULD BE THE FEE STRUCTURE THAT WAS PALATABLE TO THEM AND WHERE WAS THE POINT OF BREAKAGE.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE IT TOOK IT TOOK A FEW YEARS.

AND SO THAT'S HOW THE FUNDING FOR THAT WHOLE WHOLE AREA OCCURRED.

SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE BECAUSE I THINK, FRANKLY, WE'RE DIGGING OURSELVES OUT OF A HOLE.

WE INHERITED A HOLE FROM PREVIOUS SANDAG ACTION.

SO I DON'T I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD LIKE A TAX.

IF THERE IS A FEE, HOW IS THAT FEE GOING TO BE CONSUMMATED? AND GENERALLY, HOW DO THE CITIZENS HERE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IN THE LAST TIME SKAG HAS BEEN HERE, I MEAN, SKAG, I'M SORRY, SANDAG HAS BEEN HERE TO

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DO A PRESENTATION FOR CARLSBAD CITIZENS TO COME HERE AND HAVE A Q&A, YOU KNOW, WALKING THE STREETS.

AND NOT THAT I WALK THE STREETS THAT WAY, BUT WALKING THE STREETS.

THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ALSO.

AND IT'S CHANGING QUICKLY.

IT'S CHANGING. THE DYNAMICS ARE CHANGING VERY QUICKLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I JUST, I FEEL LIKE OUR CITIZENS ARE CONFUSED.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT IS WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON THERE AND HOW IT REALLY IMPACTS THEM.

AND THEN WHAT IS THEIR, WHAT TYPE OF MEASURE ARE THEY GOING TO BE TAKING AND WHAT CAN THEY TAKE AS FAR AS A FEE OR A TAX? ARE THEY WILLING TO ACCEPT TO GAIN A MISSION OBJECTIVE DOWN OVER IN SAN DIEGO, OR ARE THEY? I MEAN, WE'RE A VERY WE'RE A VERY DYNAMIC CITY, AS YOU KNOW.

WE HAVE I MEAN, WE ARE TESLAS.

I MEAN, WHEN TESLA CAME HERE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THEIR THEIR PROJECT, WE HAVE SO MANY TESLAS, WE'RE LIKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST MARKET HERE.

I MEAN, THE D2 IN THE CITY, IT'S ALL ON THAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY STRONG THAT WAY.

BUT HOW MUCH ARE OUR CITIZENS WILLING TO SHOULDER A FEE? OR A TAX? I, SITTING HERE TODAY, I DON'T KNOW.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BRING TO TO SANDAG AND SAY, OKAY, SHOW ME THE MATH, SHOW ME THIS.

WE HAVE SO MANY COMMITTEES IN SO MANY COMMISSIONS.

I MEAN, LOOK AT THE TWO GENTLEMEN FROM TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY THAT WE'RE HERE.

FINANCE. WELL, LET'S HAVE OUR COMMITTEES HELP MAYBE MR. CITY MANAGER WITH A CHAIR OR SOMEONE AND EVALUATING WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO OUR OUR CITIZENS.

I MEAN, WHAT IF THERE WAS TO BE A FEE REALIZED, IF THERE WAS TO BE A TAX REALIZED, HOW MUCH? WHAT DO WE SPECULATE? WHAT DO WE THINK THE CITIZENS SITTING OUT HERE TODAY, THEY DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

SO THAT'S SORT OF THE TYPE OF INQUIRIES THAT I WOULD BRING TO SANDAG AND TO THE OTHER ELECTED THAT ARE THERE.

CAN YOU TELL ME, DO YOUR CITIZENS KNOW OR ARE YOU JUST REACTING BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT'S THE WAY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REACT? OR ARE YOU REALLY DOING THIS FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY? YEAH. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNEW THAT YOU HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS AND THE OPEN MINDEDNESS AND THE PAST EXPERIENCE OF WORKING WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALSO HAD DIVERSE FORCES, KIND OF PULLING THEM APART AND LOOKING FOR WHAT IS BEST FOR THE PEOPLE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE HURT OR HAVE THE THE SHORT END OF THE DEAL LIKE WE OFTEN DO IN CARLSBAD WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING REGIONAL BECAUSE MOST OF THE ATTENTION GOES TO THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.

BUT JUST KIND OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS THAT COMPLEXITY, IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE.

YOU'RE NOT COMING IN WITH AN AGENDA THAT ACTUALLY REALLY IMPRESSES ME.

AND IT'S WHAT IMPRESSED ME ABOUT YOUR YOUR APPLICATION HERE AS WELL.

JUST TONS OF EXPERIENCE, NO AGENDA OTHER THAN JUST TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.

SO I REALLY LIKE THAT.

AND MAYBE YOUR HUMILITY AND NOT WANTING IN SAYING DON'T PICK ME IS PROBABLY THE REASON THAT I THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE THE BEST CHOICE.

THANK YOU. WELL, I WILL JUST MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I THINK THAT I AGREE.

MS. LUNA, I THINK YOU WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT CANDIDATE.

BUT AS THE MAYOR, I'M CONCERNED WITH THE CONSISTENCY AND THE LONGEVITY.

AND TO HAVE A CANDIDATE THERE FOR LESS THAN TWO YEARS AND THEN STARTING FROM SCRATCH IS MY ONLY CONCERN.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT MS. BURKHOLDER BE THE REPRESENTATIVE TO SANDAG AND THAT BE HER ONLY PRIMARY, HER ONLY RESPONSIBILITIES.

SO SHE CAN DEDICATE A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY TO IT.

LET'S DO A VOTE.

AND THEN IF IT TURNS OUT THAT IT'S MS. BURKHOLDER, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE STOP.

IF IT TURNS OUT IT'S NOT, THEN WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER VOTE AND WE COULD JUST SETTLE IT WITH A VOTE THAT WAY, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU GUYS.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR A SECOND.

SORRY. NOMINATIONS DON'T REQUIRE A SECOND.

OKAY, THEN LET'S VOTE.

MY VOTE IS FOR MS. BURKHOLDER. PLEASE VOTE.

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THE VOTE IS 3 TO 2.

THEN MS. BURKHOLDER WILL TAKE THE SANDAG POSITION AS HER FULL TIME EXTRA JOB.

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE OTHER ONES.

I KNOW THAT MS. BURKHOLDER WOULD LIKE TO? YOU HAVE A CONFLICT WITH TWO OF YOUR APPOINTMENTS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE TAKES ENCINO WASTEWATER? MS. LUNA, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ENCINO.

WASTEWATER AND YOU'LL BE MY PARTNER.

CERTAINLY. THANK YOU.

THEN THE NEXT ONE.

I RECOMMEND THAT WE KEEP THE SAME.

WE NEED A VOTE. YEAH.

NOMINATION. I'M SO SORRY.

OKAY, THEN PLEASE VOTE.

MS. LUNA WILL TAKE THE SECOND ENCINO WASTEWATER POSITION.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. WE PUT THE LIST BACK UP SO WE CAN SEE THE NEXT ONE.

THE SANDAG ALTERNATES.

I RECOMMEND THAT IT STAY WHO THEY ARE NOW.

THAT WOULD BE FIRST ALTERNATE IS MS. BHAT-PATEL. SECOND ALTERNATE IS ME.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS WE DO NOT HAVE A NORTH COUNTY HOMELESS ACTION COMMITTEE ANY LONGER.

IS THAT ACCURATE? WELL, IT STILL EXISTS.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK ONCE THE COMMITTEE'S UP AND RUNNING AGAIN.

DO WE HAVE TO SELECT THAT NOW OR CAN WE DO THAT LATER? THAT ONE WILL BE LATER. IT'S THE SHORELINE PRESERVATION WORKING GROUP.

THAT WOULD BE NEXT.

OKAY, I'M LOOKING FOR INTEREST IN SHORELINE PRESERVATION.

SEEING NONE. THAT'S GOING TO BE MISS LUNA.

PLEASE VOTE. MAYOR, MAY I CLARIFY ONE THING FOR THE RECORD? IS IT? I BELIEVE THIS IS COUNCIL'S UNDERSTANDING, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S COUNCIL'S UNDERSTANDING AS THEY MAKE THIS VOTE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY APPROVING THE CORRESPONDING RESOLUTION THAT GOES WITH EACH OF THESE? YES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ALSO NEED AN ALTERNATE FOR THE WORKING GROUP.

ANYBODY WANT TO BE THE ALTERNATE FOR SHORELINE PRESERVATION WORKING GROUP? SEEING NONE. THAT'LL BE ME.

PLEASE VOTE. SEE, CAROLINE, YOU GET THE FIRST LEFTOVERS, AND THEN I GET THE SECOND SET OF LEFTOVERS.

THAT'S JUST HOW IT WORKS.

WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? OKAY.

DID YOU WANT TO REVISIT ALL OF THEM? NO. UNLESS.

UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER HAS ONE THAT THEY ARE HAVING CONFLICT WITH.

I'LL START WITH YOU, MS. ACOSTA.

NO, IT'S JUST THE PROXY FOR THE WATER AUTHORITY WHERE I'M THE THE PERSON.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DONE TODAY.

WHY DON'T WE DO THAT RIGHT NOW? SO SINCE IT'S TOP OF THE LIST AND MAY I INTERJECT ON THAT ONE AS WELL, MAYOR? SO ON THAT ONE, AS THE RESOLUTION IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THERE COULD BE AN ARGUMENT THAT IT'S NOT AN EVERGREEN RESOLUTION.

AND TO DISPENSE WITH THAT ARGUMENT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE RESOLUTION THE COUNCIL CONSIDER BE AMENDED TO DELETE TO INCLUDE THE TWO.

AND BY THE WAY, THIS RESOLUTION IS ON PAGE NINE OF 17 TO INCLUDE THE FIRST TWO WAREHOUSES CLAUSES TO DELETE THE REMAINING WAREHOUSES CLAUSES.

AND WITH THAT IT SHOULD BE AN EVERGREEN RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU. THEN THAT'LL BE MY MOTION THAT WE DO THAT.

NOW, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO FOR THAT? JUST VOTE.

PLEASE VOTE. MADAM ATTORNEY, CAN I ABSTAIN? SINCE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS, I HAVEN'T READ IT.

IS AN ABSTENTION APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME? YES. YES. WELL, FOR A MOMENT, IT WAS FOUR IN FAVOR WITH MS. LUNA ABSTAINING.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, NO OTHER CONFLICTS? MRS. BHAT-PATEL, YOU'RE OKAY? MS. ACOSTA, YOU'RE OKAY? I JUST WANT, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE APPOINTMENTS AND THAT.

THAT COMPLETES EVERYTHING YOU NEED.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BURKHOLDER WOULD REMAIN IN ALL OF HER OTHER ASSIGNMENTS THAT ARE ON THERE.

NO. I JUST.

I JUST MADE THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

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SO WE'VE TAKEN MISS BURKHOLDER OFF OF ENCINO WASTEWATER.

IS SHE ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN ALTERNATE ON ANY OF THE OTHER ONES? ARE YOU THE PRIMARY ON NORTH? MS. LUNA, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO BE NORTH COUNTY DISPATCH.

THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT, THEY ONLY MEET ONCE EVERY THREE MONTHS.

PLEASE VOTE ON THAT.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

BUENA VISTA LAGOON.

I'M SORRY. BUENA VISTA LAGOON.

ARE YOU PRIMARY? ANYBODY WANT BUENA VISTA LAGOON BESIDES MISS LUNA? I WANT IT ALL. OKAY.

YOU'LL BE WITH ME ON BUENA VISTA LAGOON.

PLEASE VOTE. DID SOMEBODY NOT LOCK IN? OKAY. THERE WE GO. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

I DO NOT HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THAT.

IT WOULDN'T CONFLICT WITH SANDAG.

BUT I AM ON THAT COMMITTEE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO REMAIN ON? I WOULD HAVE SUBCOMMITTEES.

THAT'S JUST A LOCAL COMMITTEE.

YES. IT MEETS HERE IN THE CITY.

IN THE CHAMBERS? YEAH.

THEN WE'LL LEAVE THAT ONE ALONE.

WHO ELSE SERVES ON LEGISLATOR? THAT'S MS. ACOSTA? OKAY. THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS SHE'S THE ALTERNATE FOR NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT.

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO I THINK ALTERNATE IS OKAY UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO BE THE ALTERNATE FOR SAN DIEGO TRANSIT.

OR NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT. IF YOU WANT.

WELL, GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT.

MS. LUNA WILL BE THE ALTERNATE FOR NCTD.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY IN MAYOR, JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE RESOLUTIONS ARE WRITTEN, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO CONFIRM ALL OTHER APPOINTMENTS AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST.

HAVE WE CAUGHT UP WITH ALL OF THEM? DON'T NEED ANY OTHER CHANGES.

EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THIS.

AND MY MOTION IS THAT WE CONFIRM THAT ALL OF THESE ARE SUBCOMMITTEE COMMITMENTS.

AND I NEED A SECOND FOR THAT.

ARE WE NOTING OUR VOTES ON THOSE AS WELL? FROM PREVIOUS TIMES IT'S JUST THE RESOLUTION, CORRECT? YEAH. AND REALLY WHAT I JUST NEED IS CONFIRMATION OF THE REMAINING APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE VOTED ON THE NEW APPOINTMENTS.

SO CONFIRMATION OF THE REMAINING APPOINTMENTS AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST.

SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THAT MEAN WE'RE FINISHED? ANYTHING ELSE? WE NEED TO COVER YOUR MEETING.

OKAY. CLOSING STATEMENTS.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

MS. BHAT-PATEL, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

NONE. THANK YOU. MISS ACOSTA, I JUST, OVERALL, FOR THE WHOLE MEETING, I'M SO PLEASED THAT WE HAVE A FIVE PERSON COUNCIL NOW AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A REALLY WELL FUNCTIONING, HIGH FUNCTIONING CITY COUNCIL WITH ALL FIVE OF US COLLABORATING AND WORKING WELL TOGETHER FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU. MS. BURKHOLDER? I HEARD MORE THAN A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT SANDAG CAN BE A CONTENTIOUS, KIND OF UNCIVIL TYPE OF A SITUATION.

LUCKY FOR ME, I'VE BEEN EITHER WATCHING OR GOING IN PERSON AND HAVE WITNESSED THAT FOR MYSELF.

ALSO, LUCKY FOR ME, I'M A MENTAL HEALTH THERAPIST, SO I HAVE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS EVERY DAY WITH PEOPLE.

SO I'VE GOTTEN A COMMITMENT FROM ALL OF THE NORTH COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES ON SANDAG THAT THEY WILL HELP ME BRING ME UP TO SPEED AND BE READY RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, LUCKY FOR ME, I'VE BEEN PAYING QUITE CLOSE ATTENTION WATCHING OVER OUR TAX DOLLARS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR FOR THE APPOINTMENT.

MS. LUNA? WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE APPOINTMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING ALL THOSE APPOINTMENTS AND THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL.

AND WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, I SAID I REALLY MY GOAL IS THAT WE HAVE A COHESIVE COUNCIL.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE ALL HAVE TO VOTE ALIKE.

THAT JUST MEANS WE WORK WELL TOGETHER.

AND I THINK WE HAVE PROVEN TONIGHT THAT WE CAN WORK WELL TOGETHER.

SOMETIMES EACH OF US WILL WIN A VOTE.

SOMETIMES WE LOSE A VOTE.

GOD KNOWS I'VE LOST PLENTY IN MY MY 14 YEARS.

BUT THE NICE THING IS, NONE OF US TAKE IT PERSONALLY.

WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SET OF VOTES.

AND I THINK THAT MAKES US A HEALTHY COUNCIL.

AND I THINK THAT IN TURN MAKES IT A VERY HEALTHY CITY.

SO I WANT TO INDIVIDUALLY THANK EVERY ONE OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL FOR FOR WORKING SO HARD TO TRY TO BE COHESIVE.

THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER? I DON'T THINK SO. CITY ATTORNEY? NOTHING FOR ME. THANK YOU.

CITY CLERK? NOTHING FOR ME. WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.