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>> LEADING TO ORDER. CLERK, PLEASE TAKE ROLL.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, BURKHOLDER?
>> PRESENT. ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO READ.
[ANNOUNCEMENT OF CONCURRENT MEETINGS]
SAYS THE COUNCIL IS SERVING AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER 6.THE CITY COUNCIL IS ALSO SERVING AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, PUBLIC FINANCING AUTHORITY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, AND THE SUCCESSOR FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER 9.
NEXT IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
MS. BURKHOLDER, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US?
>> THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> WE HAVE NO MINUTES FOR APPROVAL SO NEXT IS GOING DIRECTLY TO PRESENTATIONS.
[PRESENTATIONS]
LOOKS LIKE I GET TO READ BECAUSE CARLSBAD HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH PRESENTATION, AND I INVITE RAUL DIAZ TO COME TO THE PODIUM.>> LET ME BEGIN AND THEN I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO SPEAK.
THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH PROCLAMATION SAYS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR MANAGING GROWTH AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.
REVITALIZING NEIGHBORHOODS, FOSTERING LOCAL PRIDE, PROMOTING TOURISM, AND MAINTAINING COMMUNITY CHARACTER WHILE ENHANCING LIVEABILITY.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS RELEVANT FOR COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION, AMERICANS OF ALL AGES AND ALL ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO CELEBRATE THE ROLE OF HISTORY IN OUR LIVES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS AND HELPING TO PRESERVE THE TANGIBLE ASPECTS OF THE HERITAGE THAT HAS SHAPED US AS A PEOPLE.
PEOPLE, SAVING PLACES IS THE THEME FOR THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO CELEBRATE THE PLACES THAT ARE MEANINGFUL TO THEM AND THEIR COMMUNITIES.
NOW THEREFORE, I, KEITH BLACKBURN, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 2023 AS CARLSBAD HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH.
I INVITE RAUL TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR BLACKBURN AND THANK YOU ALL TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HONORING AND RECOGNIZING HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S EFFORTS.
ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE COMMISSION IS TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE CITY'S HISTORY.
THIS IS DONE WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS THROUGH THE SUPPORT, THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM AND THE THIRD GREAT HISTORIC ART PROGRAM WE SEE HERE TODAY.
I'M ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT BEING AN ARCHITECT AND REALIZING THAT SO MANY DREW BUILDINGS IS FANTASTIC.
[LAUGHTER] THE COMMISSION ALSO DOES THIS THROUGH A PLAQUE PROGRAM AND THROUGH ORAL HISTORY COLLECTION PROJECT IN COOPERATION WITH THE LIBRARIES, CARLSBAD HISTORICAL COLLECTION, ALONG WITH OTHER PROJECTS.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR RECOGNIZING THE CARLSBAD SIGNIFICANT HISTORY, AND I THINK I'LL GIVE IT TO MIKE.
>> YES. MIKE, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NEXT WITH THE THIRD GRADERS?
>> YES. THANK YOU. I'M MIKE STRONG, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE AS WE'RE SHOWCASING SOME OF THE ARTISTIC ENDEAVORS OF OUR CITY'S YOUTH.
EVERY YEAR, THE CITY OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HELP SPONSOR DRAWING ON THE CARLSBAD'S PAST.
THESE ARE CONTESTS FOR THIRD GRADERS.
THE CONTEST IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A CREATIVE EMPHASIS ON THE STUDY OF LOCAL HISTORY, WHICH IS PART OF THIS CALIFORNIA'S STATEWIDE CURRICULUM FOR ALL THIRD GRADE STUDENTS.
AFTER LEARNING ABOUT CARLSBAD HISTORIC SITES, STUDENTS WERE ASKED TO CREATE AN ARTISTIC IMAGE OF THEIR FAVORITE SITE.
SEVEN SCHOOLS PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROGRAM THIS YEAR, AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO INTRODUCE AND SHOWCASE THE ARTWORK OF 21 STUDENTS.
THEIR PIECES WILL ALSO BE ON DISPLAY BEGINNING LATER THIS WEEK AND THROUGH THE SUMMER AT THE CARL LIBRARY.
WITH IT, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR OUTSTANDING THIRD GRADE ARTISTS AND AWARD THE CERTIFICATES.
PRESENTING THE CERTIFICATES, IS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION VICE CHAIR, DIAZ.
I'LL ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS OF EACH SCHOOL.
THE STUDENTS WILL COME UP AND SHAKE HANDS WITH THE VICE CHAIR, DIAZ AND RECEIVE THEIR CERTIFICATES AND AWARDS.
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I ASK EACH OF THE STUDENTS TO REMAIN UPFRONT UNTIL ALL THE NAMES ARE CALLED SO WE CAN MAKE IT A PHOTO WITH THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN CONTINUE OUTSIDE FOR A BRIEF RECEPTION.THE FIRST STUDENT, JULIAN MOLDOVAN, FROM BUENA VISTA.
[APPLAUSE] MADDIE ROSETTA, BUENA VISTA.
[APPLAUSE] ROMINA JIMENEZ LEMAN, BUENA VISTA.
[APPLAUSE] COLLETTE PERLMAN, CALVARY HILLS.
[APPLAUSE] FRANCIS BLACK, CALVARY HILLS.
[APPLAUSE] GRAYSON KONIK, [NOISE] CALVARY HILLS.
[APPLAUSE] ALEXIS WALLHOUSE, KELLY.
[APPLAUSE] FRANCIS FOLGER, KELLY.
[APPLAUSE] MARINA FABRI MCDUFFY, KELLY.
[APPLAUSE] KEARA MARTIN, LA COSTA HEIGHTS.
[APPLAUSE] MASTIN FELIX, ALSO, LA COSTA HEIGHTS.
[APPLAUSE] MULLER TYRELL, LA COSTA HEIGHTS.
[APPLAUSE] EVERLY DUDLEY, MAGNOLIA.
[APPLAUSE] MIA FERNANDEZ, MAGNOLIA.
[APPLAUSE] QUINN DAVID, MAGNOLIA.
[APPLAUSE] MATTHEW BURKE, PACIFIC RIM.
[APPLAUSE] NEVADA MORENO, PACIFIC RIM.
[APPLAUSE] SUMMER CASEY, PACIFIC RIM.
[APPLAUSE] THE LAST SCHOOL FOR POINSETTIA, ADREMY ABENSHANE, POINSETTIA.
[APPLAUSE] LEAH FULLERTON, POINSETTIA.
[APPLAUSE] LAST AWARD RECIPIENT IS LILIAN CHANG, POINSETTIA.
[APPLAUSE] AS THE STUDENTS MAKE THEIR WAY INTO THE FRONT OF THE DAIS, I WANT TO EXPRESS SOME GRATITUDE TO ALL THE TEACHERS THAT HAD SUPPORTED THIS PROGRAM AND IN PARTICULAR, I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS SOME GRATITUDE TO THE STAFF THAT HELPS SUPPORT THE ADMINISTRATION OF THIS PROGRAM.
JENNIFER J., DAVIDSON, SHEILA CROSBY, PAUL SANDOVAL, SUZANNE SMITHSON, AND CARL CAMBENHA. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] I'M GOING TO INVITE OUR PHOTOGRAPHER TO HELP ARRANGE HOW EVERYBODY IS GOING TO STAND AND COUNSEL WILL STAY UP AT THE TOP ON THE DAIS.
>> CAN YOU GUYS OPEN UP YOUR CERTIFICATE SO WE CAN SEE IT? THEN I'M GOING TO NEED SOME OF YOU TO COME UP HERE TO THE FRONT.
YOU CAN PUT YOUR [NOISE] YOU CAN STAND IN THREE LINES.
>> PULL THE CHAIR BACK SO YOU CAN STAND.
>> IF YOU FEEL A LITTLE TALLER, CAN YOU CHANGE WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE BEHIND YOU?
>> CAN YOU GO ON THAT SIDE FOR ME?
>> [LAUGHTER] BIG SMILES. THE TRICK IS, YOU GOING TO LOOK AT ME FIRST.
DON'T LOOK AT YOUR PARENTS YET, EVEN IF THEY CALL YOU.
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[NOISE] ALL RIGHT, GUYS.I NEED A CAMERA DOWN FOR A SECOND. THANK YOU.
TAKE SMILE. DO A COUPLE OF MORE.
DON'T WORRY, YOUR PARENTS ARE GOING TO TAKE PICTURES.
[LAUGHTER] LAST ONE. WAIT, TWO SECONDS.
PARENTS GO ON THEN. [LAUGHTER].
>> THEY ARE PAPARAZZI. [LAUGHTER]
>> YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE TO LOOK.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE]
>> EVERY DAY. IT GETS TIRING, DOESN'T IT?
>> NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE REPORT OUT IN CLOSED SESSION ITEMS, WE DID NOT HAVE A CLOSED SESSION, SO THERE'S NO REPORT. EXCUSE ME. YES.
>> WE SHOULD HAVE A PROCLAMATION.
>> I'M SO SORRY. NEXT IS A PROCLAMATION FOR JUNETEENTH AND I INVITE COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA TO PRESENT THAT.
>> THANK YOU. THIS IS THE PROCLAMATION PRESENTATION FOR JUNETEENTH DAY AND I'M GOING TO INVITE SOLOMON DENNING TO THE PODIUM WHILE I READ THE PROCLAMATION.
SOLOMON IS A CUSTODIAN AND MEMBER OF THE DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION COMMITTEE HERE.
IT IS MY PLEASURE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION, ACKNOWLEDGING OUR HISTORY AS WE JUST HAVE AN ACKNOWLEDGING THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE OVER THE COURSE OF OUR HISTORY.
>> PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS AND LET'S DO THE PROCLAMATION SO WE GIVE THE SAME RESPECT TO THIS PROCLAMATION WE GIVE TO THE LAST ONE, MISS ACOSTA.
>> THANK YOU. THIS PROCLAMATION IS IN HONOR OF JUNETEENTH DAY, JUNE 19, 2023.
I'LL READ THE WHEREAS IS BEFORE I INVITE YOU TO MAKE THE COMMENTS, MR. DENNING.
WHEREAS JUNETEENTH DAY COMMEMORATES JUNE 19, 1865, IN WHICH UNION GENERAL GORDON GRANGER ANNOUNCED THE END OF THE CIVIL WAR IN GALVESTON, TEXAS, FOLLOWING OVER TWO CENTURIES OF SLAVERY SINCE COLONIAL AMERICA.
WHEREAS THOUSANDS OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE IN TEXAS WHERE THE LAST TO LEARN OF THEIR LIBERATION ENGAGED IN THE JUBILEE THAT BEGAN IN TEXAS AND SPREAD TO OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION.
WHEREAS JUNE 19, 1865 CALLED FOR THE END OF INSTITUTIONALIZED HUMAN CHATTEL SLAVERY.
LATER ON DECEMBER 6TH, 1865, RATIFICATION OF THE 13TH AMENDMENT OFFICIALLY ABOLISHED SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD PROMOTES THE SIGNIFICANCE OF JUNETEENTH DAY TO HONOR AND REFLECT ON THE ESSENTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS, SYSTEMIC HARDSHIPS AND ONGOING ACHIEVEMENTS THAT BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICANS EXPERIENCE IN THE JOURNEY FOR TRUE LIBERTY, JUSTICE, AND FREEDOM FOR ALL PEOPLE.
NOW THEREFORE, I COUNCIL MEMBER TERESA ACOSTA, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 19, 2023 AS JUNETEENTH DAY.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL MEMBER, ACOSTA.
THE MONTH OF JUNE IS A VERY SPECIAL MONTH FOR ME AS A BLACK AMERICAN.
I KNOW THAT JUNETEENTH MAY NOT BE COMMONLY KNOWN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION FOR THOSE THAT'S UNFAMILIAR WITH THIS VERY IMPORTANT DAY.
ON JUNE 19TH, 1865, UNION SOLDIERS RODE INTO GALVESTON, TEXAS, AND ARMY GENERAL GRANGER READS DOCUMENT ORDER NUMBER 3.
"THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS ARE INFORMED THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCLAMATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE OF THE UNITED STATES,
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THAT ALL SLAVES OR FREE." THIS WAS TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS AFTER ABRAHAM LINCOLN SIGNED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION.THE FIRST JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION WAS IN 1866 WITH FOOD, DANCING, AND REMARKS FROM FORMER SLAVES.
ON JUNE 17TH, 2021, PRESIDENT BIDEN RECOGNIZE JUNETEENTH AS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.
MY FIRST JUNETEENTH EXPERIENCE WAS WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD.
MY GRANDMOTHER TOOK ME TO A CELEBRATION AT MARTIN LUTHER KING PARK IN SOUTHEAST SAN DIEGO.
FROM THAT DAY FORWARD, OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS AND I HAVE ALWAYS ACKNOWLEDGED JUNE 19TH AS A SPECIAL DAY OF REMEMBRANCE OF THOSE THAT HAS CAME BEFORE US.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AS A ORGANIZATION FOR THE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES AND THE RESOURCES PROVIDED.
WHEN I BECAME FULL-TIME, I JOINED THE CCEA, CITY OF CARLSBAD EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATION.
I WAS SELECTED TO THE DEI COMMITTEE, WHICH STANDS FOR DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.
I ALSO JUST STARTED SCHOOL AT MIRACOSTA COLLEGE FOR AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE AND PLAN TO TRANSFER TO A CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY.
AS OF TODAY, I'M RECEIVING A JUNETEENTH PROCLAMATION.
IN CONCLUSION, I TRULY APPRECIATE THE CREATIVE IDEAS THE CITY PROVIDES TO ITS EMPLOYEES AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
AS A BLACK AMERICAN, I'M MOST GRATEFUL TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU.
>> SOLOMON, WILL YOU JOIN US DOWN HERE FOR A PHOTO AND COUNCIL, WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN US.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT,
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
BUT I HAVE TO READ THE FOLLOWING.THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY, AND RESPECT.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.
THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
ALL OTHER NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.
WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
TO BE FAIR, I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE THREE MINUTES, BUT YOU WILL HAVE A 30-SECOND WARNING.
THE LIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM WILL TURN YELLOW WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT, PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.
>> GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY KRISHA.
>> I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE LIVING IN DISTRICT 1 BECAUSE MELANIE IS MY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COUNCIL.
THERE ARE SOME HOMES FOR SALE IN DISTRICT 1, IF YOU LIVE IN PRIZE DISTRICT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE TO TEXAS.
YOU CAN JUST MOVE ON OVER TO DISTRICT 1.
THIS MORNING, ONE OF MY HEROES WHO LIVES ON THE EAST COAST, STUART VARNEY, ON HIS STOCK MARKET SHOW, HE HAD ANOTHER TERRIFIC PERSON.
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EVERY BIT IS WONDERFUL AS MELANIE.HIS NAME WAS JIM DESMOND, COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
HE HE GOT SOME PUBLICITY ON AN IPAD THAT HE WROTE ON FRIDAY.
THESE WERE THE HEADLINES, NUISANCE, HOMELESSNESS, INSANITY FAILS TAXPAYERS.
CALIFORNIA'S HOUSING FIRST PROGRAM MAKES HOMELESSNESS EVEN WORSE.
NOW, I CAME HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M ASKING FOR A FREE SERVICE THAT WILL MAKE OUR CITY AND SOCIETY SAFER AT NO NEW COST TO TAXPAYERS.
I'M HOLDING HERE IN MY HAND MY DRIVER'S LICENSE, MY RETIRED MARINE ID CARD, AND MY RECENTLY OBTAINED CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT.
I'M VERY PLEASED THAT KEITH IS UP THERE AND I KNOW THAT KEITH, AS A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER, HAS A CCW PERMIT FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.
A COUPLE MONTH AGO, THERE WAS A MASS SHOOTING AT A MALL IN TEXAS.
I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE CNN OR ONE OF THOSE OTHER LEFTY CHANNELS.
THEY ACTUALLY WENT AND INTERVIEWED A HISPANIC LADY WITH HER TWO KIDS AT THE MALL WHERE THERE WAS A SHOOTING.
I THINK THE SHOOTER WAS A TRANSGENDERED PERSON.
ANYWAY, THEY INTERVIEWED HER AND SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD BEEN SPEAKING TO HER HUSBAND.
HE ASKED, DO YOU HAVE YOUR PISTOL? I HAVE MY PISTOL IN MY OTHER HAND, SHE SAID. NOW THAT'S IN TEXAS.
THAT LADY PROBABLY GOT A PISTOL LIKE THAT, WHEREAS GETTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN CALIFORNIA IS A NIGHTMARE.
BUT I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS ALL OVER AMERICA HAVE A PERMANENT PERMIT TO CARRY CCW AND THAT IS RESPECTED IN ALL 50 STATES.
RETIRED MILITARY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME PRIVILEGE.
ALSO THERE'S A DEBATE GOING ON ABOUT WEAPONS ON TEACHERS IN SCHOOLS AS A RETIRED MARINE AND AS A RETIRED TEACHER.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF TEACHERS WHO ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR CLASSES TO INCREASE THEIR PAY, GO GET A PERMIT TO CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON, HAVE YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR MORE CLASSES.
THE SCHOOLS CAN ADVERTISE MANY TEACHERS AT THE SCHOOL HAVE A PERMIT TO CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY DOESN'T FORGET THAT ONE OF THEIR OWN COUNCIL MEMBERS, AT THE VERY LEAST, BROKE A FEW OF THE CITY'S COUNCIL CODES OF ETHICS AND PUBLIC SERVICE VALUES BY CALLING PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT DON'T AGREE WITH THE DEI IN SCHOOL CHILDREN'S CURRICULUM, WHITE SUPREMACIST.
LET ME REMIND THE CITY OF A FEW OF THE CODES, COUNCIL WOMAN, PRIYA BHAT-PATEL BROKE BY ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND SUPPORT FILM ETHICS STUDIES AT CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
AS A LEADER OF COMMUNITY, I MODEL CIVILITY.
I TREAT MY FELLOW OFFICIAL STAFF AND THE PUBLIC POLITELY, PROFESSIONALLY, AND WITH AN APPRECIATION FOR OUR COMMON HUMANITY, EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE ON WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
TWO, I INVITE AND RESPECT PUBLIC INPUT.
I WELCOME A DIVERSE PERSPECTIVE AND CONSIDER THEM IN MY DECISION-MAKING.
I ACT IN A WAY THAT HELPS PEOPLE FEEL VALUED WHEN THEY PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.
I SUPPORT DEFINING IMPORTANT WORDS, TERMS, AND CONTENT, AVOIDING JARGON.
I'M ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY ACTIONS AND WORDS.
I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS EVEN IF IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE TO DO SO, WHICH INCLUDES APOLOGIZING WHEN I REALIZE THAT MY BEHAVIOR HAS FALLEN SHORT OF THE ASPIRATION STANDARDS IN THIS CODE.
THERE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE ETHICAL CODES PRIYA BHAT-PATEL BROKE, AND WHEN WE HAD A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH HER AND ASK HER IF SHE WOULD APOLOGIZE FOR USING A PROVOCATIVE AND INSIGHTFUL WORD LIKE WHITE SUPREMACIST, SHE SAID SHE WOULD NOT.
AT THE VERY LEAST, SHE NEEDS TO ISSUE A PUBLIC APOLOGY IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU.
>> SUZANNE HUME, FOLLOWED BY JOHN BOROUGH.
>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SUZANNE HUME, I'M THE EDUCATIONAL DIRECTOR OF CLEANING4KIDS.ORG.
I'LL JUST SAY AS A TEACHER FOR DECADES, DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION IS IMPERATIVE.
IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE SYMBOLS THAT WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR OUR STUDENTS.
BECAUSE THERE ARE KIDS OUT THERE THAT ARE STRUGGLING.
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THEY'RE STRUGGLING AND THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE ACCEPTED.IN LIGHT OF THE LAST TWO SPEAKERS, I JUST NEEDED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR BRAVERY, PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING OUT FOR OUR KIDS TO PROTECT OUR KIDS IN ALL SPACES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR BRAVERY.
BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S HARD TO DO THAT AND THERE'S A LOT OF ATTACKING GOING ON.
THIS IS ABOUT OUR KIDS AND THEIR FUTURE.
GOODNESS. I CAME HERE TO ASK AGAIN TO PLEASE SEND A LETTER TO THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY, TO STOP THE SALE, USE, AND STORAGE OF LEADED AVIATION FUEL AT PALOMAR AIRPORT.
THIS IS ESSENTIAL BECAUSE THERE'S NO SAFE LEVEL OF LEAD.
LEAD PERMANENTLY HARMS OUR CHILDREN'S BRAINS.
AS YOU KNOW, LEAD EXPOSURE IS THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR FATAL HEART ATTACKS IN THE UNITED STATES.
OVER 70% OF LEAD IS AIRBORNE, AND SO PISTON AIRPLANES, THE ONE WITH THE PROPELLERS, SOME OF THEM ARE USING LEADED FUEL, BUT HERE IN CARLSBAD, THEY'RE USING THEM.
WHY? BECAUSE UNLEADED FUEL IS NOT FOR SALE.
WHAT ARE WE THINKING HERE, AND IT'S AVAILABLE.
WE NEED TO IMMEDIATELY DEMAND THAT THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO PROVIDE UNLEADED FUEL AT THE AIRPORT AND STOP THE SALE.
IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT TECHNICAL STAFF, THAT'S GREAT.
AS YOU KNOW OR MAY KNOW, RO KHANNA WORKING FOR CALIFORNIA, DID A CONGRESSIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE ON THIS.
THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNICAL THINGS TO KNOW, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, JUST GET THIS UNLEADED FUEL NOW AND STOP THE SALE OF LEADED AVIATION FUEL.
ON OUR WEBSITE ON TEAM 5, CLEANING4KIDS.ORG, YOU CAN GO AND YOU CAN SIGN A PETITION, BUT YOU CAN ALSO GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.
YOU CAN ALSO REACH OUT AND CONTACT ME.
THE SECOND THAT WE SPOKE IN VISTA, THAT CITY COUNCIL SAID, OKAY, WE'RE SENDING THIS LETTER.
WE ARE TIRED OF BEING RIGHT NEXT TO CARLSBAD WHERE THERE'S THE AIRPORT WITH LEAD, IT'S UNFAIR TO VISTA.
THEY WERE VERY QUICK TO HELP WITH THAT.
WE NEED YOUR HELP TO SEND THIS LETTER.
OUR CHILDREN NEED OUR SUPPORT, OUR BEST, AND AGAIN, LEAD PERMANENTLY HARMS CHILDREN'S BRAINS.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WAITED.
WE CAN NOT EVERY WEEK THAT PASSES.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT OUR KIDS AND THEIR FUTURE.
THANK YOU. FROM CLEANING4KIDS.ORG, THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOHN BOROUGH, THE CLEANER4KIDS.ORG AND I WANT TO TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS ABOUT PESTICIDES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REALIZE ABOUT PESTICIDES IS UP TO 95% OF A PESTICIDE APPLIED DOES NOT STAY WHERE IT WAS APPLIED.
THAT BECOMES REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU LOOK AT THE COSMIC FLOWER FIELDS AND THE STRAWBERRY FIELDS.
ALL THE PESTICIDES THAT ARE USED ON THOSE FIELDS, 95% OF THEM DON'T STAY THERE.
THEY DRIFT THROUGH THE AIR AND THEY ALSO GO INTO THE SOIL AND THEY GO INTO THE WATER.
NOW, THAT BECOMES REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE COUNTY RECORDS.
THE FLOWER FIELD IS USED BY FENTHRIN, WHICH IS BANNED IN 29 COUNTRIES, AND IMIDACLOPRID BANNED IN 28 COUNTRIES, AND OXADIAZON BANNED IN 29 COUNTRIES.
THE STRAWBERRY FIELDS USE A IMIDACLOPRID, THOUGH THAT'S BANNED IN 29 COUNTRIES, AND QUINOXIFIN THAT'S BANNED IN 29 COUNTRIES.
THEY ALSO USE A COMBINATIONS 1,3D AND CHLOROPICRIN THAT'S BANNED IN 34 AND 37 COUNTRIES.
BOTH OF THOSE ARE RESTRICTED USE PESTICIDES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA BECAUSE OF CANCER AND TOXICITY.
CHLOROPICRIN WAS USED AS A CHEMICAL WARFARE AGENT IN WORLD WAR I AND YET WE USE IT AS A PESTICIDE ON STRAWBERRIES WHERE KIDS GO OUT AND PICK STRAWBERRIES.
THESE ARE REALLY DANGEROUS CHEMICALS AND THEY HAD ABSOLUTELY NO REASON BEING USED AT ALL, LET ALONE WHERE PEOPLE GO INTO THOSE FIELDS ON A REGULAR BASIS, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN.
IF YOU'D LOOK AT THE FLOWER FIELDS RIGHT BY THAT OUTLET MALL, 95% OF THOSE PESTICIDES THAT ARE SPRAYED ARE GOING TO VOLATILIZE, WHICH MEANS THAT EVEN IF IT'S SPRAYED AS A LIQUID AND IT STAYS ON THE LEAF, WHEN IT GETS HOT, IT WILL TURN INTO A GAS WHICH IS THEN BLOWN INTO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE SHOPPING AND HAVE NO IDEA THEY WOULD BE EXPOSED TO TOXIC PESTICIDES THAT CAN GIVE THEM CANCER.
ALSO INTO THE AIR QUALITY TYPE OF THING, ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN WHAT'S GOING ON IN CANADA WITH THE FOREST FIRES AND THE HORRIBLE AIR THAT'S ON THE NORTHEAST, I'VE GOT A LOT OF FAMILY OUT THERE AND IT'S BEEN PRETTY HARD TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH.
WE HAVE BAD AIR IN CALIFORNIA, WE GO THROUGH FOREST FIRES ON A VERY REGULAR BASIS.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM BURNING OF
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FOSSIL FUELS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S FUELING ALL OF THESE FOREST FIRES.CERTAINLY I HOPE THE CITY WILL BRING BACK THE BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
ALONG WITH THAT, IN THAT CODE, MAKE THE CHANGE TO STOP PUTTING IN A WOOD-BURNING FIREPLACES, NEW CONSTRUCTION.
BURNING ANYTHING PRODUCES TOXICITY.
LET'S JUST STOP BURNING STUFF AND MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME CLEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS?
>> THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ITEMS 1 THROUGH 8?>> ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE AGENDA ITEMS? I NEED A MOTION, PLEASE.
>> MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEMS 1 THROUGH 8.
CONSENT CALENDAR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A DISCUSSION OF RAISING THE INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG.
WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS PRIOR TO THAT ITEM.
ONE OF THEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THOSE FIRST.
BUT I HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR THE COUNCIL.
IF MAX IS IN THE AUDIENCE, MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE ME A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN.
IF WE TAKE ITEM NUMBER 11 OUT OF ORDER AND DO IT FIRST BUT THE OTHER CONSIDERATION WOULD BE THAT I WOULD LIMIT THE SPEAKERS TO ONE MINUTE EACH.
I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COUNCIL MEETING CONTINUES TO GO.
DOES ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY CONCERN WITH THAT? MAX, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU FOR A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN.
>> MAX, DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION I HAD?
I THOUGHT YOU WERE LISTENING. I'M SO SORRY.
>> MAX, MY PROPOSAL IS ITEM NUMBER 11 IS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER AGENDA ITEMS, ONE OF WHICH IS OUR BUDGET, THAT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, TECHNICALLY, THAT SHOULD GO NEXT.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT'S GOING TO BE LONG.
I JOKINGLY SAID LAST TIME, WHEN IT COMES TO THE FINANCE, YOU EITHER LOVE IT OR HATE IT, BUT WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG.
MY PROPOSAL IS THAT WE TAKE ITEM NUMBER 11, THE INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG NEXT.
BUT IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT TO KEEP THE MEETING GOING, I'M GOING TO LIMIT SPEAKERS TO ONE MINUTE RATHER THAN THREE MINUTES EACH.
I'M LOOKING FOR A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN FROM YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE REPRESENTATIVE AND LOOKING FOR THAT THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
OTHERWISE, IT WILL STAY TO THE END OF THE COUNCIL MEETING.
>> I APPRECIATE THE OFFER. WE COULD DO AT LEAST TWO MINUTES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> I'M NOT PLAYING. IT'S NOT A NEGOTIATION.
WE'RE NOT BUYING A USED CAR HERE.
>> BEING HERE TILL NINE O'CLOCK WILL BE EXHAUSTING FOR EVERYONE.
>> IS THAT OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL?
>> BEFORE THE COUNCIL DECIDES, MAYOR, THERE IS ALSO ONE GROUP FOR THAT ITEM THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE ALLOCATED 10 MINUTES.
IS THERE AN ADJUSTMENT YOU WANT TO MAKE?
>> THE GROUP PRESENTATION WILL BE LIMITED TO SIX MINUTES. I'M SORRY.
>> NO. IT'S TOO MANY SPEAKERS.
IF YOU WANT TO REJECT IT, THAT'S OKAY.
THEN WE'LL PUT IT AT THE END IN EXCESS OF 21.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT I'M GOING TO PUT AT THE END OF THE MEETING WHEN IT SHOULD BE NEXT.
[11. DISCUSS RAISING THE INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG – 1) City Council engage in a discussion regarding raising the Intersectional Pride Flag absent the adoption of a City Council flag policy; and 2) Provide direction to staff as necessary. (Staff contact: Sheila Cobian, City Manager’s Department and Cindie McMahon, City Attorney’s Department)]
>> NEXT ITEM WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 11, THE DISCUSSION OF RAISING THE INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG. CITY MANAGER.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS GOING TO BE OUR CONSTITUENT SERVICES DIRECTOR SHEILA COBIAN, AS WELL AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY CINDIE MCMAHON.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, BEAR WITH ME THE COMPUTER'S LOADING UP RIGHT NOW.
AS MR. CHADWICK SAID, I'M SHEILA COBIAN, YOUR DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS TO DISCUSS RAISING THE INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG.
AS WAY OF BACKGROUND REGARDING THIS ITEM, ON MAY 23RD, 2023, STAFF PRESENTED A FLAG POLICY FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A POLICY IS TO RESERVE THE FLAG POLICY AT CITY HALL SOLELY FOR GOVERNMENT SPEECH OR THE CITY'S OWN MESSAGES.
ALSO TO ESTABLISH A UNIFORM PROCESS AND GUIDELINES FOR COUNCIL TO SELECT WHICH COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS TO FLY.
THE MOTION TO ADOPT THAT POLICY FAILED.
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ON JUNE 1ST, COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA MADE A MOTION TO BRING AN ITEM FORWARD TO ALLOW THE DISCUSSION OF RAISING AN INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG WITHOUT HAVING A POLICY IN PLACE.STAFF DID SURVEY THE OTHER 700S CITIES IN THE COUNTY.
WE FOUND THAT THE CITIES OF ENCINITAS AND SAN DIEGO DOES RAISE THE PRIDE FLAG IN THE MONTH OF JUNE WITHOUT HAVING A POLICY IN PLACE.
BEFORE I REVIEW THE OPTIONS STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED, I WANTED TO MENTION SOME QUESTIONS WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE ANSWERED SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FLYING THE INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG AT CITY HALL, ABSENT THE ADOPTION OF A FLAG POLICY.
FIRST OF ALL, DOES THE COUNCIL WISH TO APPROVE FLYING THE FLAG AT CITY HALL WITHOUT A POLICY IN PLACE? IF SO, WHAT SIZE? CURRENTLY, THE FLAGS AT CITY HALL ARE FIVE BY EIGHT BUT YOU COULD FLY A THREE-BY-FIVE FLAG.
WHEN WOULD YOU WISH TO BEGIN? WOULD YOU WANT IT FLOWN EVERY YEAR? OPTION 1 IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO PURCHASE THE INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG AND FLY IT BELOW THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FLAG ON THE EXISTING FLAGPOLE DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE.
PROS TO THIS OPTION IS THAT THE INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG WOULD BE FLOWN ON AN EXISTING FLAGPOLE SO IT WOULD NOT INCUR THE ADDITIONAL COST OF A NEW POLE.
THIS WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE TIMELY FLYING OF THE FLAG IN THE MONTH OF JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
CONS ARE WITHOUT A FLAG POLICY, RESERVING THE FLAG POLES AT CITY HALL SOLELY FOR GOVERNMENT SPEECH, AND ESTABLISHING A UNIFORM PROCESS AND GUIDELINES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO SELECT WHICH COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS TO FLY, THE CITY MAY BECOME A LITIGATION TARGET IF ANOTHER GROUP OR ORGANIZATION REQUESTS TO FLY A COMMEMORATIVE FLAG AND THE CITY DENIES THAT REQUEST.
THE HOG YARD ON THE EXISTING POLE WOULD REQUIRE MODIFICATIONS BEFORE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL FLAG.
SHOULD THE CITY NEEDS TO LOWER THE FLAG TO HALF-STAFF, THE ADDITIONAL FLAG WOULD BE CLOSE TO TOUCHING THE GROUND AND MAY WARRANT REMOVAL.
IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES THIS OPTION, THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PURCHASING A FLAG, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, WOULD RANGE FROM $179-400.
OPTION 2 IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO PURCHASE AND INSTALL A NEW FLAGPOLE TO FLY THE INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE.
PROS OF THIS OPTION ARE; IF AN ADDITIONAL FLAGPOLE WOULD SOLELY BE USED FOR COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS, THERE WOULD BE NO DANGER OF A FLAG TOUCHING THE GROUND OR NEEDING TO BE REMOVED WHEN THE FLAGS ARE LOWERED TO HALF-STAFF.
CONS WOULD BE WITHOUT A POLICY IN PLACE THE CITY MAY BECOME A TARGET OF LITIGATION.
THE COST AND TIME ASSOCIATED WITH THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN THE FLAGPOLE NOT BEING INSTALLED THIS JUNE.
IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES THIS OPTION, THE ESTIMATED COST TO PURCHASE A FLAGPOLE ALONG WITH A FIVE-BY-EIGHT INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG IS APPROXIMATELY $10,000-12,000.
OPTION 3 IS TO POSSIBLY DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE NORTH COUNTY LGBTQ RESOURCE CENTER TO OBTAIN AN INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG FOR DISPLAY AT CITY HALL DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE.
PROS OF THIS OPTION ARE TO PROVIDED THAT THE NORTH COUNTY LGBTQ RESOURCE CENTER HAS AN INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG AND PORTABLE POLE, IT WOULD BE WILLING TO ALLOW THE CITY TO USE THE FLAG COULD BE DISPLAYED QUICKLY.
THERE WOULD BE NO COSTS INCURRED TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
ONE CON THE STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED AS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD WOULD END UP BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR ANOTHER ORGANIZATION'S PROPERTY.
OPTION 4 IS TO MAINTAIN THE CITY'S CURRENT PRACTICE TO ONLY FLY THE UNITED STATES AND STATE OF CALIFORNIA FLAGS AT CITY HALL UNTIL SUCH TIME AS COUNCIL ADOPTS A FLAG POLICY, RESERVING THE FLAG POLES AT CITY HALL SOLELY FOR GOVERNMENT SPEECH AND ESTABLISHING A UNIFORM PROCESS AND GUIDELINES FOR THE COUNCIL TO SELECT WHICH COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS TO FLY.
THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS FOR COUNSEL TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> THANK YOU. SPEAKERS, PLEASE.
>> GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY VANESSA FORSYTH.
>> ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, THE STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT AT UC IRVINE SAID, GET THAT AMERICAN FLAG OUT OF THESE CHAMBERS. HE GOT HIS WAY.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE THESE PRIDE PEOPLE WANT TO GO.
IT IS VERY RARE THAT THE BEHAVIOR OF ULTRA-RIGHT PEOPLE MATCHED THE BEHAVIOR OF ULTRA-LEFT PEOPLE.
WHAT FLAG DO YOU ASSOCIATE WITH GERMANY? HOW ABOUT THAT NAZI FLAG, WHICH REPLACED THE NATION'S FLAG FOR MUCH OF THE PREVIOUS CENTURY?
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WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THESE PRIDE PEOPLE WANT THEIR FLAG UP AND DISPLAYED AS MUCH AS THE NAZIS DID.FURTHERMORE, THE NAZIS HAD THEIR PROPAGANDA PUSHED INTO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHICH THESE PRIDE PEOPLE ARE LIKEWISE DOING.
>> MY NAME IS VANESSA FORSYTH, I RESIDE IN DISTRICT 4, MY FAMILY AND I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
I AM ASKING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS APPROVE FLYING OF THE PRIDE FLAG.
I DO THINK THAT MAYBE OPTION THIRD IS A GOOD ONE SINCE WE'RE SHORT ON TIME.
I DID WRITE A LETTER AND I TOLD ABOUT MY OWN PERSONAL STORY, BUT I WANT TO MOVE AHEAD AS I ONLY HAVE A MINUTE.
HERE IN OUR CARLSBAD COMMUNITY WE PRIDE OURSELVES AS A BEACH DESTINATION AND ARE DEPENDENT ON TOURISM DOLLARS.
WE ALSO SEEK TO ENCOURAGE HIGH-TECH AND OTHER BUSINESSES TO LOCATE HERE.
IF WE ARE IDENTIFIED AS A COMMUNITY THAT IS EXCLUSIVE RATHER THAN SUPPORTIVE OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY, TOURISTS, BUSINESSES AND THEIR WORKERS WILL NOT COME HERE.
THIS WILL MEAN A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF DOLLARS FOR CARLSBAD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I AM A CHRISTIAN. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT JESUS MEANT.
>> KELLY BOTHUM, FOLLOWED BY NATALIE SHAPIRO.
>> THE RAINBOWS SYMBOL WAS THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN IMAGE FIRST, A SIGN OF GOD'S HOPE AND MERCY FOLLOWING THE GREAT FLOOD.
JESUS REVEALS THAT MAKING DISCIPLES OF ALL NATIONS IS AT THE HEART OF THE CHURCH'S DIVINE MANDATE.
EVERYONE IS WELCOME IN GOD'S KINGDOM.
WE MUST PERSONIFY THE RAINBOW OF GOD'S MERCIFUL LOVE.
SAME-SEX ATTRACTED WILL EXPERIENCE THE SAME RAINBOW OF HEALING AND HOPE.
IT READS, IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY, PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY.
WOULD YOU VOTE TO FLY THIS FLAG? CITY ATTORNEY STATES, ADOPTING A FLAG POLICY TO GUIDE FLAG FLYING DECISIONS BECAME A BEST PRACTICE AFTER THE US SUPREME COURT CASE, ASSURE LIFE VI THE CITY OF BOSTON.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I LIVE IN TRIESTE DRIVE IN CARLSBAD.
I SUPPORT RAISING THE PRIDE FLAG THIS MONTH.
A CONCERN THAT OTHER GROUPS WILL ALSO WANT THEIR OWN FLAG FLOWN IS AN UNFOUNDED FEAR.
BUT WHAT IF THEY DO? WHAT IS SO WRONG WITH CARLSBAD SHOWING WE ARE WELCOMING TO ALL.
THE FLAG IS IMPORTANT TO MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, IN THIS CASE, THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.
THIS SHOW THAT WE ARE SAFE AND ACCEPTED IN THE CITY.
PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING IN FLIGHT OF PRIDE FLAG THIS MONTH AND EVERY JUNE IN EVERY YEAR.
AS FAR AS WHICH OPTION, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK COUNCIL COULD DIRECT STAFF FOR THE BEST OPTION, 1-3. THANK YOU.
>> CHRIS SHAW, FOLLOWED BY JOE LOUIS TREVINO.
>> THIS WAS FROM SCOTT DAVIDSON.
AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU ARE TASKED WITH MAKING DECISIONS WHICH ARE THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR CITY FREE FROM BIAS AND EMOTION, YOU HAVE THE CHOICE.
ONCE AGAIN TONIGHT, CAVE TO THE EMOTIONAL DEMANDS OF AN ACTIVIST GROUP OR MAKE RESPONSIBLE, UNBIASED POLICY DECISIONS BASED ON THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR CITIZENS.
I APPLAUD THE CITY STAFF FOR SENDING AN UPDATED MEMO TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHICH CORRECTLY DESCRIBED THAT THE CAN OF WORMS THAT WILL BE OPEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE RESOLUTION TO FLY A FLAG WITHOUT A POLICY IN PLACE AS AN EDUCATED ADVOCATE IN CARLSBAD, I RECENTLY WITNESSED THAT CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL BOARD STRUGGLE WITH THE SAME ISSUE WHEN THE SUPERINTENDENT, DISTRICT STAFF FAIL TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE LEGAL OR POLICY IMPLICATIONS OF THIS ADVANCE OF THE DECISION.
THE SUPREME COURT UNANIMOUSLY DECISION IN SHURTLEFF V. CITY OF BOSTON HELD THE ARBITRARY REJECTION ONE FLAG, WHILE ALLOWING OTHERS VIOLATE THE FIRST AMENDMENT IN THE US CONSTITUTION.
THE CITY OF BOSTON SPENT MILLIONS OF ATTORNEY FEES FIGHTING THIS LAWSUIT AND THEN PAID MILLIONS MORE TO THE ATTORNEY FEES TO THE PLAINTIFF.
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>> JOE TREVINO. IF THE PRIDE FLAGS IS DISPLAYED IT'S SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT INCLUSIVITY AND TOLERANCE.
THEN IT'S ONLY RIGHT THAT A STRAIGHT FLAG OR HETEROSEXUAL FLAG BE DISPLAYED TOO.
THE STRAIGHT FLAG IS A PRIDE FLAG INTENDED TO REPRESENT HETEROSEXUALITY THAT GOD CREATED MALE AND FEMALE.
ADDITIONALLY, LET'S DISPLAY A FLAG WITH A MAJOR IN DECEMBER TO CELEBRATE THE BIRTH OF CHRIST AND CELEBRATE EASTER WITH A SPECIAL FLAG TO CELEBRATE THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST.
THAT WILL SHOW SOLIDARITY WITH A CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY AS SOMEBODY YOU WANT TO SHOW SOLIDARITY WITH THE LGBT COMMUNITY.
I ASK THE LGBT COMMUNITY IF YOU ARE REALLY INCLUSIVE AND YOU'LL REALLY TOLERANT AND YOU WANT DIVERSITY, THEY SUPPORT CHRISTIANITY TOO, YOU ARE EXCLUDING US EVERY TIME YOU SEE AS YOU ATTACK US, IF YOU WANT THE PRIDE FLAG, PUT IT UP OR PUT THE CHRISTIAN FLAG. AS FOR ME-
>> JOCELYN ANTON CAMPBELL, FOLLOWED BY JACOB STEVENS.
>> MY NAME IS JOCELYN ANTON CAMPBELL AND I MOVED TO NORTH COUNTY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WITH MY WIFE.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED WALKING DOWN THE STREET, WE GOT STARES.
WAS IT BECAUSE WE WERE TWO WOMEN? OR IS IT BECAUSE I'M A TRANS WOMAN? I'M NOT SURE WHICH, BUT I DID NOT FEEL SAFE.
FLYING THE PRIDE FLAG IN CARLSBAD TELLS ME THAT YOU WANT ME HERE, THAT THIS IS A PLACE THAT I CAN BELONG TOO.
PEOPLE HAVE IMPLIED THAT I AM A NAZI OR ANTI-CHRISTIAN AND MANY OTHER THINGS ALREADY TONIGHT AND I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR MORE JUST FOR EXISTING.
I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT US IN BEING RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS RATHER THAN ATTACK US.
AS SOMEONE ELSE SAID, I'M SURE YOU ALL PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER IDEA THAN I DO OF WHAT'S THE BEST APPROACH.
OPTION THREE SOUNDS NICE TO ME, BUT, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING WILLING TO CONSIDER THIS AND FOR THOSE SUPPORTING IT. THANK YOU.
>> I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I COME FROM A STRONG MILITARY FAMILY.
MY SISTER IS A MARINE, MY PARTNER IS A MARINE.
MANY OF MY OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS ARE DIFFERENT BRANCHES OF THE MILITARY.
I TRIED TO JOIN, BUT TRUMP DECIDED I WASN'T ALLOWED TO JOIN BECAUSE I'M A TRANSGENDER MAN.
I AM YOUR NEIGHBOR FROM VISTA.
I'M SPEAKING ABOUT PROBABLY GOING TO BUTCHER HIS LAST NAME, BUT IT'S SHANE DEVEREAUX.
HE WAS ASSAULTED AT THE COYOTE BAR AND INN IN 2021, HE HAD THE BACK OF THE SKULL FRACTURED AND HIS SPINE.
AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, NOTHING WAS REALLY DONE.
HE HAD A GOFUNDME THAT DID NOT REACH ITS GOAL.
YEAH. I'M BASICALLY HERE TO SAY THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF RAISING THE PRIDE FLAG AND SHOWING THAT PEOPLE BELONG HERE AND TO NOT GIVE INTO RADICAL RIGHT-WING HATE. THANK YOU.
>> CHI WUCHANG, FOLLOWED BY TERRY BURNS
>> I WANT TO SEND LOVE TO ANYONE, IN SPITE OF A LOT OF HATE, LOVE TO ALL YOU ALL.
MY NAME IS CHI WUCHANG I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT SINCE 2004.
I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO APPROVE RAISING THE PRIDE FLAG.
THERE ARE TWO POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE.
FIRST, I BELIEVE WE NEED A TREAT OTHER AS A HUMAN BEING WITH LOVE, KINDNESS, AND RESPECT.
RAISING THE PRIDE FLAG SYMBOLIZE WE RESPECT AND LOVE OUR LGBTQ SISTER AND BROTHER.
SECOND, I BELIEVE GRACE IN THE PRIDE FLAG WILL HAVE POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR LOCAL BUSINESS.
WHEN WE RAISE THE PRIDE FLAG, IT MEANS THAT EVERY VISITOR IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR GENDER, IDENTITY, RELIGION, SKIN COLOR, ARE WELCOMED IN SUMMARY, THEY ARE MORE BENEFIT THAN RISK TO RAISE A FLAG.
PLEASE APPROVE RAISING THE FLAG.
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>> WAY DOWN ARE WE STARTING? I 100 PERCENT SUPPORT INDIVIDUAL GAY PEOPLE.
IN FACT, I HAVE A SIBLING WHO'S GAY.
LOVE IS LOVE THAT'S THE TRUTH.
THE GROUP THAT WAS HERE LAST WEEK FOR THE PROCLAMATION.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT OCEAN SIDES CITY COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THAT GROUP IS FROM, NOT CARLSBAD.
EXCUSE ME. ALSO OCEAN SIDE DOES NOT FLY THE PRIDE FLAG.
THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE THERE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
[NOISE] THE REPRESENTATIVE DECLINED.
THE CITY COUNCIL'S PROCLAMATION EXPRESSED ANGER THAT THE EXCLUSIVE FLAG WAS NOT APPROVED AND DECLARED CARLSBAD AS AN UNSAFE CITY FOR GAY PEOPLE, THEN THEY WAVE THEIR FLAGS AND DRAMATICALLY WALKED OUT ON YOU COUNCIL.
IF YOU ALLOW THE PRIDE FLAG WITH OR WITHOUT OTHER FLAGS, YOU HAVE TO LET EVERY FLAG BE.
>> LATISSERIES WHO'S REPRESENTING THE GROUP THAT CONTAINS FRANCIS BALLARD, GERARDO REYES, AND ARTIST MERCADO.
>> I'M FOR OPTION 4, WHY ARE WE BACK HERE? POLICY FIELD SO NOW WE'RE JUST GOING TO VOTE ON THIS FLAG WITHOUT A POLICY.
WHO NEEDS THE POLICY? LET'S JUST GO AROUND IT.
NO COMMEMORATIVE FLAG SHOULD FLY WITH AMERICAN FLAG, BUT MILITARY FLAGS.
THEY'VE EARNED THAT SINCE THEY HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM.
WHY DO WE NEED A PRIDE FLAG? BEFORE IT WAS JUST TO GET EQUALITY, THEY HAVE IT, AND NOW THEY ARE IN A PROTECTED CLASS THAT HAS MORE RIGHTS THAN ANY OTHER CLASS.
A CLASS WHERE FREEDOM OF SPEECH DOES NOT APPLY IF OUR SPEECH GOES AGAINST THEIR BELIEFS.
JUST BY HAVING OUR OWN PERSONAL BELIEFS, WE ARE SOMEHOW INFRINGING ON THEIR RIGHTS AND WE ARE NOW IN THE WRONG AND ARE BEING NEGATIVELY LABELED AND ACTED UPON.
I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE SAY THAT TO PUT THE PRIDE FLAG UP WILL SHOW THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND CARLSBAD WELCOMES THEM.
JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE STARED AT DOESN'T MEAN ANYONE WILL HARM YOU.
WE DON'T HEAR ABOUT KIDS, ADULTS GETTING HARASSED FOR BEING GAY OR TRANS.
IF THAT HAPPENED, IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE NEWS AS A HATE CRIME.
THE LGBT COMMUNITY HAS COME A LONG WAY.
THEY CAN'T BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST OR HARASSED.
IF ANYONE EVEN SPEAKS UP AGAINST THEM, THEY'RE LABELED A HOMOPHOBE OR TRANSPHOBE.
I HAVE BEEN TORN WHETHER I SHOULD EVEN SPEAK HERE FOR THIS REASON.
I DON'T KNOW IF MY FAITH WILL BE USED AGAINST ME.
PEOPLE SAY THAT THIS GOES AGAINST HER FAITH AND HER HARASSING CALLED BIGOTS AND ARE CANCELED JUST FOR THEIR BELIEFS.
WE HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR FAITH AND BELIEFS AND SHOULDN'T BE TOLD THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE IF WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO THAT COMMUNITY.
A GROUP THAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PERSECUTED ARE CHRISTIANS.
THEY'RE BEING ARRESTED, SUED, MURDERED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN.
IT'S NOW ACCEPTABLE TO MOCK CHRISTIANITY, INCLUDING BY SOME OF THE LGBT COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE DRAG QUEEN NUNS PERFORMING SEX ACTS ON A GUIDE JUST AS JESUS DURING HIS CRUCIFIXION AND THEY'RE GETTING AN AWARD.
WOULD THEY DO THIS TO A MUSLIM GOD? NO. WHY IS IT OKAY FOR MY BELIEFS TO BE MARKED AND MY RIGHTS TO BE TRAMPLED? WHY DO I HAVE TO CELEBRATE PRIDE? IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ME CHOOSING NOT TO GO TO A PRIDE PARADE.
I FEEL EXCLUDED AND FEEL LIKE THE LGBT HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN I DO.
THEIR RIGHTS AND FEELINGS MATTER MORE THAN MINE, ESPECIALLY AS A WOMAN AND A MOTHER.
TO ACCEPT THIS FLAG BEING RAISED IS TO ACCEPT THE MARKETING OF CHRISTIANITY.
WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, THERE WERE THE KIDS THAT SET THEMSELVES APART FROM EVERYONE ELSE.
EVERYONE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A COMMUNITY OF STUDENTS AND SOME IDENTIFIED AS LESBIANS OR GAY.
I NEVER HEARD OF THEM GETTING BULLIED, AND THIS WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
COULD'VE HAPPENED, BUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES GOT BULLIED. I WAS BULLIED.
MY SISTER AND I HAD TO SWITCH SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DIDN'T PROTECT US.
THEY COULDN'T PROTECT US, SO WE SWITCHED SCHOOLS.
IF THEY WOULD HAVE FLOWN A FLAG FOR US, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE MADE US FEEL SAFE BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO PROTECT US AND THE VIOLENCE WAS REAL.
ARE THE LGBT COMMUNITY BEING THREATENED? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT.
DO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY BELONG? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I NEVER FELT LIKE I BELONGED EITHER.
THEN I REALIZED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THIS.
A FLAG ISN'T GOING TO MAKE SOMEONE FEEL SAFE.
YOU WILL COME TO REALIZE THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THINK, THERE'S A PLACE FOR EVERYONE.
LAST TIME I WAS HERE I SPOKE ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION CALLED GAYS AGAINST GROOMERS.
THE SPEAKER AFTER ME SAID THAT GAYS AGAINST GROOMERS WAS A HATE GROUP. BUT THAT'S A LIE.
THEY KNOW THEY HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT THEY WANT WITH EQUALITY, BUT NOW THE MOVEMENT HAS SHIFTED.
THE MOVEMENT IS NOW DEMANDING CELEBRATION.
THE PRIDE FLAG NOW REPRESENTS POLITICAL FAR-LEFT ACTIVISM.
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO SEPARATE THE LGB FROM THE TQ PLUS BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT LGB IS ABOUT SEXUALITY AND TQ PLUS IS ABOUT IDENTITY THAT JUST KEEPS GROWING TO WHATEVER ANYONE WANTS TO IDENTIFY US.
SOME FROM THE TQ PLUS HAVE GONE TOO FAR SINCE THEY'RE EXPECTING ACCEPTANCE NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO OR BE CALLED A TRANSPHOBE.
NOW WOMEN HAVE TO COMPETE WITH MEN IDENTIFYING AS WOMEN, GIRLS HAVE TO SHARE SAFE SPACES WITH BOYS,
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AND LESBIANS ARE GETTING KICKED OUT OF LESBIAN DATING SITES FOR NOT WANTING TO DATE TRANS WOMEN.SOME OF THE TQ PLUS ARE AFTER THE KIDS WITH TEACHING SEXUALITY AND ENCOURAGING KIDS TO TRANS.
OR ENCOURAGE SO-CALLED FAMILY-FRIENDLY EVENTS THAT ARE REALLY ADULT EVENTS BECAUSE OF ALL THE NUDITY AND SEXUAL ACTS BEING PERFORMED.
PARENTS THAT SHOW UP AT SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS TO FIGHT WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT ARE LABELED EXTREMISTS.
GAYS AGAINST GROOMERS WANTS THE KIDS TO BE LEFT ALONE AND SUPPORT PARENTS TO NOT WANT THEIR KIDS TO BE TAUGHT SEXUALITY.
I AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC SPEAKER EARLIER THAT SAID TO STAND UP FOR KIDS IS A BRAVE THING TO DO.
THAT IS NOT HATE, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, CARLSBAD VOTED TO BAN PRAYER FROM THE OPENING OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS DUE TO FAITH BEING EXTREMELY PERSONAL AND NOT EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE SHARING THE SAME BELIEFS.
SOMEONE AS FAR AS TO SAY THAT THEY WERE OFFENDED BY PRAYER, WHICH ULTIMATELY LED TO THE VOTE.
IF WE APPLY THE SAME REASONING TO THIS SITUATION, WHAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE MORE PERSONAL THAN A FLAG THAT REPRESENTS WHO YOU HAVE INTIMATE RELATIONS WITH? IF THIS FLAG IS TO BE RAISED, WHAT ABOUT THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T SHARE THE SAME BELIEFS AS WHAT THIS FLAG REPRESENTS? WHY DOES ONE OPINION MATTER MORE THAN ANOTHER? IF YOU VOTED TO BAN PRAYER ON ACCOUNT OF IT BEING VERY PERSONAL AND NOT EVERYONE SHARING THE SAME BELIEFS, IT WOULD BE HYPOCRISY AT ITS FINEST TO VOTE, TO FAVOR THE PRIDE FLAG BEING RAISED.
NOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THIS POLITICAL FLAG, THEN THESE ARE THE FLAGS THAT I WANT.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT WE CANNOT FLY RELIGIOUS FLAGS BECAUSE IT'S PERSONAL.
THAT HAS GONE OUT THE WINDOW IF WE ALLOW A PRIDE FLAG.
I WANT A POW/MIA FLAG, A CHRISTIAN FLAG TO FLY DURING LENT, WHICH IS THE 40 DAYS FROM ASH WEDNESDAY TO EASTER SUNDAY, AND DURING ADVENT, WHICH IS THE FOUR WEEKS BEFORE CHRISTMAS ON CHRISTMAS DAY.
A JEWISH FLAG TO FLY DURING PASSOVER, DURING ROSH HASHANAH AND YOM KIPPUR, AND DURING HANUKKAH IN DECEMBER, AND HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY.
A FLAG FOR MUSLIMS DURING RAMADAN, A WRINKLED FLAG TO FLY ON THE BIRTHDAY SINCE WE'RE CLOSE TO CAMP PENDLETON, A FLAG FOR ALL THE OTHER MILITARY BRANCHES BIRTHDAY.
OR HOW ABOUT WE JUST FLY THE AMERICAN FLAG, THE FLAG THAT REPRESENTS US ALL? THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS.
>> DANIEL SMITH, FOLLOWED BY ANNA GRAHAM.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAN.
I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR HERE AT THE CITY.
I'M REPRESENTING MY PERSONAL BELIEFS HERE TONIGHT.
MY TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RAISING, LOWERING, AND MAINTAINING FLAGS AT NINE CITY FACILITIES.
FLAGS HAVE MEANING AND THE ACT OF RAISING AND LOWERING THEM IS PERFORMED WITH RESPECT TO THE FEDERAL FLAG CODE.
IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR ME TO GET A CHILL RUNNING UP MY SPINE WHEN I'M RAISING OUR CURRENT FLAGS, THINKING OF THE MANY LIVES LOST IN DEFENDING OUR WAY OF LIFE.
COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS WITH THE STARS AND STRIPES COVERING THEIR CASKETS.
COUNTLESS MOTHERS, INCLUDING MY OWN, WERE HANDED THIS FLAG FOLDED INTO A PERFECT TRIANGLE AS THEIR SONS WERE LOWERED INTO THE GROUND.
FLAGS HAVE A SIGNIFICANCE AND MUST REPRESENT A COMMON CAUSE.
THE LGBTQIA2S PLUS MOVEMENT IS NOT A COMMON COST.
MANY INDIVIDUALS DISAGREE WITH THIS MOVEMENT AND/OR THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORT OF IT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
I PERSONALLY OBJECT TO IT BECAUSE IT CONTRADICTS FUNDAMENTAL TEACHINGS OF MY CHRISTIAN FAITH AND MIX THEM UP.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, I SAID THAT THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING, IT'S NOT ENTERTAINMENT, SO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM IT.
I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE RAISING OF THE PRIDE FLAG BECAUSE THIS FLAG DOES NOT REPRESENT UNITY.
IT REPRESENTS A REVIVAL OF PERVERSION, IMMORALITY, SINFUL BEHAVIOR, SEXUAL EXPLORATION AND EXPLOITATION.
IT REPRESENTS CONFUSION AND DOUBT.
HOWEVER, I WILL AGREE THAT IT DOES REPRESENT PRIDE.
A PRIDE THAT'S MANIFESTED AS FEAR, ENTITLEMENT IN GRATITUDE, POWERLESSNESS, HYPOCRISY, AND REBELLION.
WE MUST RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS NOT A WAR AGAINST PEOPLE, IT'S A WAR AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES.
IT'S A SPIRITUAL WAR AND THE EVIL ONE, SATAN, WANTS YOU TO BE PROUD OF SIN AND TO WATER IT DOWN.
WHEN YOU WATER IT DOWN, YOU WATER DOWN THE SACRIFICE JESUS DID ON THE CROSS FOR ALL OF US.
WE SHOULD BE REPENTING FROM OUR SIN, NOT CELEBRATING THEM.
I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE TAKE A STAND AGAINST THIS GODLESS AGENDA AND STAND FOR TRUTH BECAUSE GOD IS LOVE. THAT'S ALL.
>> VICKI SILAGE FOLLOWED BY MIKE BARELLO.
>> GOOD EVENING, VICKI SILAGE, LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE.
WHAT DO THE COLORS OF THE NEW PRIDE FLAG MEAN? RED MEANS LIFE, ORANGE MEANS HEALING, YELLOW IS THE SUN FOR NEW IDEAS, GREEN IS PROSPERITY, BLUE IS SERENITY, VIOLET IS SPIRIT.
THE BLACK AND BROWN REPRESENT PEOPLE OF COLOR.
THE BLUE REPRESENT MEN AND BOYS.
THE PINK REPRESENTS WOMEN AND GIRLS.
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THE WHITE REPRESENTS INTERSEX PEOPLE, TRANSGENDER PEOPLE, OR THOSE WHO REFUSE TO IDENTIFY.THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE TEACH OUR CHILDREN IN KINDERGARTEN.
THIS IS A FLAG THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL.
I'D LIKE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A HISTORY LESSON.
WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS.
THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
FROM THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE FOLLOWED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECT.
>> DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, AND THE CONSTITUTION THAT FOLLOWED IT.
IT BROUGHT FORTH A GREAT FLAG THAT FLIES OVER OUR NATION TODAY.
WHEN YOU FLY OTHER FLAGS OTHER THAN THE STATE FLAG WITH THE AMERICAN FLAG, YOU'RE DISRESPECTING THAT FLAG, ESPECIALLY IF THAT FLAG STANDS FOR SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
IT WAS A GOOD BOOK WORTH DYING FOR BY TIM MARSHALL, THE POWER AND POLITICS OF FLAGS.
I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL WATCH A VIDEO THAT WAS RECENTLY PLAYED ON YOUTUBE OR RUMBLE, JORDAN PETERSON INTERVIEW WITH RILEY GAINES.
IT'S NOT ABOUT FLAGS, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE UPSIDE DOWN ISSUE OF TRANSGENDERISM, WHICH IS CONNECTED WITH THE LGBTQ FLAG, TOTALLY UPSIDE DOWN.
WE SHOULDN'T BE FLYING THIS WITH THE AMERICAN FLAG. THANK YOU.
>> FRANCESTY, FOLLOWED BY JOHN BOROUGH.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M ANTI GAY, MY DAUGHTER IS GAY.
SHE HAS A WONDERFUL WIFE, GREAT LITTLE GIRL, AND SHE EVEN SAID, THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
WE ARE ALL AMERICANS, WE'RE ALL IN CALIFORNIA.
THAT UNITES US TO HAVE A GAY FLAG OR A PRIDE FLAG.
NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAID, IT'S SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT, AT THIS POINT, THAT FLAG REPRESENTS LGBT, WHATEVER THE REST OF IT IS. NO DISRESPECT FOR THAT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW. IF YOU HAVE THAT UP THERE, THEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT CARLSBAD IS EQUAL TO THE UNITED STATES, AND CALIFORNIA WE'RE NOT ALL GAY.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE FLAG UP THERE.
FOR ME, IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT FLAG UP, I LOVE POP. LET'S PUT UP.
I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THERE'S MORE PEOPLE IN CARLSBAD WHO PRAY TO THE POP FLAG.
THEN WE'D PLAY TO A LGBT FLAG.
YOU'LL GET MORE VISITORS AND MORE COMMERCE FROM PEOPLE IF EVERYBODY KNEW THAT CARLSBAD WAS ALL PRO.
>> PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING AND IF YOU NEED TO DISCUSS ANYTHING, PLEASE GO OUTSIDE TO DO IT.
I AM A WHITE, STRAIGHT CHRISTIAN MALE.
I AM NOT PART OF A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY.
I NEVER HAD BEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I ABSOLUTELY KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF PRIVILEGE BECAUSE OF ALL THAT I HAVE.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MARGINALIZED AND THEY LIVE IN FEAR AND THEY'RE SCARED TO GO OUT AT NIGHT.
I LIVED IN THE DEEP SOUTH, I LIVED IN THE WEST COAST AND THE NORTHEAST.
THERE ARE DEFINITELY AREAS THAT ARE MUCH MORE SCARY TO BE IN IF YOU ARE A MARGINALIZED PERSON.
THE FLAG REPRESENTS A LOT OF THINGS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
THE PRIDE FLAG REPRESENTS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES ACCEPTANCE AND UNDERSTANDING AND A SAFE PLACE.
WE DON'T FLY RELIGIOUS FLAGS BECAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION OF UNITED STATES, THE FIRST AMENDMENT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
THE OTHER FLAGS, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
>> SUZANNE HUME FOLLOWED BY AUSTIN HANCH.
>> MS. SUZANNE HUME, I'M THE EDUCATIONAL DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER OF CLEANEARTH4KIDS.ORG AND A TEACHER HERE FOR DECADES.
HOW MANY OF OUR KIDS ATTEMPT SUICIDE? SUICIDE IS THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE 10-24 YEARS OLD.
LGBTQ YOUTH ARE MORE THAN FOUR TIMES AS LIKELY TO ATTEMPT SUICIDE AS THEIR PEERS.
MORE THAN 1.8 LGBT YOUTH 13-24 SERIOUSLY CONSIDER SUICIDE IN THE US AND AT LEAST ONE ATTEMPT SUICIDE EVERY 45 SECONDS.
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CBS, BLOOMBERG, MANY, OVER HALF OF THE LGBTQ TEENS ATTEMPTED SUICIDE IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2021.THE POPE CALLS FOR AN END TO ANTI-GAY LAWS.
AS FORBES REPORTED, POPE FRANCIS SAID THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A CRIME.
>> DIANA GARY FOLLOWED BY MAX.
>> DEAR CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR BLACKBURN.
HI. MY NAME IS AUSTIN. I'M 28.
I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE AND WILL FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
I LOVE CARLSBAD AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY QUEER PEOPLE LIVING HERE AND GOING TO SCHOOL HERE.
THE RAINBOW FLAG, ESPECIALLY THE PROGRESSIVE RAINBOW FLAG, IS MORE THAN JUST A FLAG TO US.
IT'S A SYMBOL OF LOVE AND UNITY.
FLYING THE RAINBOW FLAG OUTSIDE THIS CHAMBER WILL SHOW THAT CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA IS A SAFE PLACE AND THAT IF YOU ARE A QUEER OR YOU ARE AN ALLY, YOU'RE SAFE TO BE HERE.
FOR A LONG TIME I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY LGBT PERSON LIVING HERE.
SINCE GOING TO NORTH COUNTY, ALWAYS BE CENTERED BECOMING THE AMBASSADOR THERE.
I MET SO MANY AMAZING QUEER STUDENTS.
WITHOUT BEING SAID, PLEASE PASS THIS SO WE CAN FINALLY FLY THE RAINBOW FLAG THROUGHOUT CARLSBAD CITY HALL. THANK YOU.
>> DIANA GARY FOLLOWED BY MAX DISPOSTI.
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT 3.
FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU, MAYOR BLACKBURN, FOR ACKNOWLEDGING MAX AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING TO CHANGE THE AGENDA. I APPRECIATE THAT.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY I'M VERY PROUD THAT DR. PRIYA BHAT-PATEL IS MY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE.
HER NAME IS ACTUALLY FAIRLY EASY TO SAY.
I KNOW I SENT AN E-MAIL REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY WARNING AGAINST VIOLENCE AGAINST OUR LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS COMMUNITIES OF COLOR FROM RIGHT-WING GROUPS.
I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
ALSO SOME OF THE NOTES I TOOK.
PRIDE FLAG, NAZI, LGTBQ, AND ANTI-CHRISTIAN, GAYS AGAINST GROOMERS, PERVATION, SEXUAL EXPLOITATION, GODLESS AGENDA, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
MY POINT IS, THERE'S HATRED HERE IN THIS ROOM.
FOR ME, WHEN I SEE A PRIDE FLAG, I SEE WELCOMING, I FEEL SAFE AND I'M A STRAIGHT PERSON.
SO PLEASE, IT'S VERY SIMPLE. THERE'S A SOLUTION.
>> DISPOSTI. THIS IS REALLY HARD FOR US.
BY THE WAY, I'M HERE, I LIVE IN OCEAN SIDE, BUT WE SERVE CARLSBAD.
HUNDREDS OF KIDS, A LOT OF LGBT FAMILIES ARE IN CARLSBAD. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
ONE THING, SEXUAL PREDATORS, GROOMER, NAZI, FOLKS, EVERYTHING, PLEASE DON'T CALL US NAZI.
CHECK YOUR HISTORY. WE WERE PERSECUTED.
WE WERE IN CAMP CONCENTRATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT THE PRIDE FLAG SYMBOLIZES.
DESPITE THE HATE AND THE VIOLENCE THAT CONTINUES TO BE, WE'RE STILL HERE.
WE HAVE AN LGBT EMERGENCY FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA REGARDS TO THE HATE.
THE SAME NARRATIVES WE HEARD TONIGHT ARE THE SAME THAT HIT THE POLES CLUBS SIX YEARS AGO IN FLORIDA.
DO THE RIGHT THING. WE ARE OFFERING THE FLAG FOR FREE, THE POLE FOR FREE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MANAGE ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO THAT.
SO OPTION THREE, I BELIEVE, BUT I JUST INVITE EVERYONE TO BE AT THAT.
>> THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
>> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MS. BHAT-PATEL?
>> YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE TONIGHT AND FOR ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION A FEW TIMES AND THERE IS OBVIOUSLY HISTORY WITH REGARDS TO THE SUPPORT FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH REGARDS TO THIS.
JUST QUICKLY, A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WITH THE OPTIONS.
I KNOW I HAD ASKED THIS DURING BRIEFINGS.
I THINK I MIGHT HAVE A SLIDE THAT YOU ALL HAD PUT TOGETHER.
BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS A WAY TO ADD AN AMENDMENT.
IF WE WERE TO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FLYING THE FLAG TO AMEND OPTION 1, WHICH WOULD SAY TO BORROW A FEASIBLE OR PURCHASE AN INTERSECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG AND FLY IT BELOW THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FLAG ON AN EXISTING FLAG POLE.
THEN THE OTHER PIECE I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD ADD WAS ABOUT ADDING IT EACH YEAR DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE.
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I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT UP JUST YET, BUT WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT THE OPTIONS, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT OPTION.THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS LET ME JUST SEE HERE REALLY QUICK.
THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN QUESTION IS IF WE'RE ABLE TO COMBINE THOSE OPTIONS TOGETHER.
>> I BELIEVE SO. CITY ATTORNEY.
>> OKAY. GREAT. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.
I JUST HAVE COMMENTS AFTER THAT. THANK YOU.
>> SHEILA, WOULD YOU PLEASE PUT UP THE FOUR OPTIONS AGAIN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? [OVERLAPPING]
>>THERE ARE ON SEPARATE SLIDES.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE ONE AT A TIME? SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> OH, I'M SORRY. [OVERLAPPING] LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE'RE READY TO VOTE AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER THE FOUR SLIDES AGAIN.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. I'M ALSO SO GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS, AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE OPTION 3 BECAUSE I FELT LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ONE AND TWO AND THREE WOULD BE BORROWING FROM THE NORTH COUNTY LGBTQ RESOURCE CENTER.
DO WE ASK, DO WE COLLABORATE? HAVE WE SAID OKAY? [LAUGHTER] WHAT WAS THE PROCESS THERE?
>> I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAD OFFERED, BUT THEY ALSO DID SHOW UP HERE AND THEN PUT UP A FLAG AND A POLE.
SO WE FELT THAT THIS WOULD BE A REASONABLE OPTION.
>> OKAY. GREAT. THEN AS FOR THE SIZES, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING TWO DIFFERENT SIZES.
ONE IS LIKE A FULL STANDARD FLAG SIZE AND ONE WAS A SMALLER ONE.
WAS IT PURELY COST THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE TWO DIFFERENT SIZES OR WHAT'S THE STANDARD? ENCINITAS FLIES THE FLAG EVERY JUNE. WHAT DO THEY USE?
>> I DO NOT KNOW WHAT SIZE FLAG THEY USE, BUT HERE WE USE FIVE BY EIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL.
BUT SOME OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES DO FLY THE THREE BY FIVE FLAGS.
>> OKAY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO, THE SMALLER FLAG.
IS IT AN OPTION BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH CHEAPER? I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WE WERE CONSIDERING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT WASN'T SO MUCH CHEAPER, BUT THEY WERE EASIER TO FIND IN THE THREE BY FIVE VERSUS THE FIVE BY EIGHT AND THE ALL WEATHER FABRIC.
GREAT AND IF WE WERE TO PARTNER WITH NORTH COUNTY LGBTQ RESOURCE CENTER, IS IT A FULL-SIZE FLAG OR A MINI FLAG?
>> I WOULD HAVE TO ASK MR. JASPER.
>> FULL-SIZE, IT'S A FULL-SIZE FLAG.
GREAT. THEN MY COLLEAGUE HAD JUST TALKED ABOUT AN EVERGREEN ELEMENT TO THIS.
DO WE DO THAT WITH OTHER THINGS? ISN'T OUR PRIDE MONTH PROCLAMATION ALREADY EVERGREEN?
>> YES. IT WAS PASSED BY RESOLUTION TO COME BACK EACH YEAR.
IT'S THE ONLY PROCLAMATION THAT COMES BACK EACH YEAR.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY THEN, WE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD DECLARES PRIDE MONTH EVERY JUNE, EVERY YEAR, RIGHT?
>> THIS WOULD JUST GO ALONG WITH THAT.
WE WOULD ALSO FLY A FLAG DURING JUNE PRIDE MONTH EVERY YEAR?
>> IF THE MOTION WERE MADE THAT WAY, YES.
>> THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DECIDING NOW.
I THINK I'LL WAIT FOR OTHER QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION BEFORE DECISION AND CLOSING COMMENTS. THANKS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. BURKHOLDER.
>> THANK YOU. MAYBE DIRECTED MORE TOWARD THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I DID HEAR MENTION OF THE SUPREME COURT CASE WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON, AND LET'S SAY MASSACHUSETTS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT IF YOU CAN EXPOUND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT CASE WAS ABOUT BECAUSE I THINK ABSENT OF FLAG POLICY, WE MIGHT INVITE OURSELVES AS THE STAFF REPORT INDICATED, TO LITIGATION, WHICH IS NOT SAYING THAT I DO NOT, I LOVE AND ACCEPT LGBTQ PEOPLE, IT IS ABOUT A POLICY.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS AROUND. THANK YOU.
>> YES. THE CASE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, BELIEVE IT [INAUDIBLE] VERSUS THE CITY OF BOSTON WAS A 2022 DECISION BY THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.
IN THAT CASE, THE CITY OF BOSTON HAD A THIRD FLAGPOLE THAT USUALLY FLEW ITS OWN FLAG, BUT IT DID ALLOW GROUPS TO HOLD CEREMONIES AND FLY OTHER FLAGS.
THEY WERE APPROACHED TO FLY A FLAG THAT WAS REFERRED TO AS A CHRISTIAN FLAG AND THEY TURNED IT DOWN BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION.
THE CHRISTIAN GROUP DID SUE THE CITY.
IN ITS DEFENSE, THE CITY TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT ALL OF THE FLAGS THAT IT HAD ALLOWED TO BE FLOWN WERE GOVERNMENT SPEECH OR IN OTHER WORDS, ITS OWN MESSAGES.
THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT LOOKED AT ALL OF THE SURROUNDING FACTS.
THEY ULTIMATELY CONCLUDED THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON WAS UNABLE
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TO ESTABLISH THAT THEY'RE FLYING A FLAG WITH GOVERNMENT SPEECH.INSTEAD, THEY CONCLUDED THE CITY OF BOSTON HAD MADE ITS FLAG POLES A PUBLIC FORUM.
WHEN A GOVERNMENT CREATES A PUBLIC FORUM, IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE SPEECH DECISIONS BASED ON THE VIEWPOINT PRESENTED.
THE SUPREME COURT CONCLUDED THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON SHOULD NOT HAVE TURNED DOWN THE FLYING OF THE CHRISTIAN FLAG.
A MAJOR REASON WHY THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION IS THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON DID NOT HAVE A FLAG POLICY, CLEARLY ESTABLISHING ITS FLAG POLES AS GOVERNMENT SPEECH AND GUIDING HOW IT WAS GOING TO CONTROL ITS MESSAGES AND DETERMINE WHAT MESSAGES IT WAS GOING TO FLY ON ITS FLAG.
AFTER THAT DECISION, FOLKS IN MY PROFESSION, CONSIDERED A BEST PRACTICE IF A CITY DOES WANT TO HAVE FLAG POLES THAT CONVEY THE CITY'S OWN MESSAGES, THAT IT HAVE A FLAG POLICY CLEARLY ESTABLISHING THEM.
>> THANK YOU. WHEN YOU SAY FLAG POLES, DO YOU ALSO MEAN EVEN IF WE PUT A FLAG UNDER THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FLAG, WOULD THAT BE ALSO IN WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING?
>> YEAH, JUST UTILIZING A FLAG POST I GENERAL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ANOTHER FLAG. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
THEN ALSO, HAVE WE EVER AS A COUNCIL, I KNOW THAT THIS PRESENT COUNCIL HASN'T BUT HASN'T ANY OTHER COUNCIL EVER KNOWINGLY VOTED FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY OPEN US UP TO LITIGATION SUCH AS THIS, WHEN THERE'S ALREADY SUPREME COURT PRECEDENTS ON IT?
>> IN MY TIME HERE I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY'S HISTORY.
>> I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. BHAT-PATEL.
>> YES, THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK FOLLOW-UP ON THIS PIECE AROUND GOVERNMENT SPEECH.
IF WE WERE TO MOVE THIS ITEM TONIGHT, THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO INCORPORATE LANGUAGE.
I'M ASSUMING, FOR US TO SAY THAT THE INTENT OF FLYING THE FLAG WOULD BE TO BE GOVERNMENT SPEECH REFLECTING THE CITY'S OWN MESSAGE AND NOT TO CONVERT THE CITY'S FLAG PULLS INTO PUBLIC FORUMS.
>> YES, WE DO HAVE LANGUAGE THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION, WE DO HAVE LANGUAGE WE WOULD RECOMMEND BE INCLUDED IN THAT MOTION.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU, AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN MY SLIDE.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. THE CONVERSATION REMINDED ME THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, WE TALKED ABOUT IN SALINAS AND SAN DIEGO NOT HAVING FLAG POLICIES.
ARE THERE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES DO WE KNOW OF OR DO WE JUST ONLY SURVEY THE CITIES AND WITHIN THE COUNTY BECAUSE I KNOW THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO ALSO FLIES FLAG LIGHTS, THE COUNTY HEALTH ADMINISTRATION?
>> I ONLY SURVEY THE CITIES IN THE COUNTY.
>> BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OTHER CITIES THAT LIGHT UP THEIR CITY HALLS WITH RAINBOW LIGHTS AND CELEBRATE AND JUNE IS A VERY FESTIVE MONTH, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE ARE OTHERS, BUT WE KNOW AT LEAST THAT THOSE TWO DON'T HAVE A FLAG POLICY, BUT DO FLY A PRIDE FLAG.
HAVE THEY BEEN PRESENTED WITH ANY LITIGATION OR LAWSUITS? DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT?
>> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. CITY ATTORNEY?
>> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY IN THE COUNTY.
>> YEAH. I ASKED MY COLLEAGUES [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY HADN'T.
I THINK THAT THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SERIOUS OF AN OBSTRUCTION AS PEOPLE SAY, THANKS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL GO WITH COMMENTS.
I'LL START WITH YOU, MS. BHAT-PATEL.
>> SURE. THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND BRINGING UP THAT SLIDE JUST SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THE THINGS THAT I WAS REFERENCING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THOSE THAT SPOKE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WE'VE AGAIN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS.
AS AN ALLY, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE FEEL SAFE.
THEY FEEL THAT THEY BELONG, THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE, WORK, GO TO SCHOOL, VISIT, THRIVE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WITH THAT, THIS WOULD BE THE MOTION THAT I WOULD WANT TO MAKE.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO MOVE OPTION 3 WITH THE CHANGE OF EACH YEAR BEING INCORPORATED AND THE LANGUAGE AT THE END AND THAT WOULD BE IN THAT THE INTENT OF THIS MOTION IS FOR FLYING THE INTER-SECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG AT CITY HALL TO BE GOVERNMENT SPEECH, REFLECTING THE CITY'S OWN MESSAGE AND NOT TO
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CONVERT THE CITY'S FLAG POST INTO PUBLIC FORUMS. I'LL LOOK TO MY COLLEAGUE WHO HAD BROUGHT THIS ITEM FORWARD TO SEE WHICH OPTION SHE'D LIKE FOR US TO MOVE AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE WHICHEVER OPTION WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE.>> I SECOND THIS MOTION AS PRESENTED ON THE SLIDE.
>> MS. ACOSTA, CLOSING STATEMENTS.
NOW THAT WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE, I DID WANT TO CALL OUT.
I JUST GOT SO MANY ELOQUENT EMAILS AND PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH MANY.
I THINK IT WAS LIKE A CALL TO ACTION.
IT WAS INCLUDED WITH MANY OF THE EMAILS.
JUST BRIEFLY, I'M GOING TO READ IT QUICKLY, JUST A LITTLE PORTION OF IT.
THE INTER-SECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG REPRESENTS THE OVERLAPPING AND INTERCONNECTED EXPERIENCES OF INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE FACED DISCRIMINATION AND MARGINALIZATION BASED ON MULTIPLE ASPECTS OF THEIR IDENTITY, SUCH AS RACE, GENDER, SEXUALITY, DISABILITY AND MORE.
RAISING THE INTER-SECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG WOULD SEND A POWERFUL MESSAGE OF SOLIDARITY AND SUPPORT TO THESE INDIVIDUALS, FOSTERING A SENSE OF BELONGING AND ACCEPTANCE.
IT WOULD ALSO SERVE AS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF OUR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO INCLUSIVITY, EQUALITY, AND SOCIAL JUSTICE TO ALL WHO LIVE, WORK AND VISIT CARLSBAD.
I BELIEVE THIS, I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL FLAG, AND I HEAR THE EMOTION AND THE FEAR, AND THE LOVE, AND THE ANGER.
THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT EMOTIONS SWIRLING AROUND THIS ISSUE, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE WE ARE A COMMUNITY AND WE CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER.
WHEN WE SEE EACH OTHER, NEXT DOOR, ON THE STREET, IN THE STORE, PEOPLE ARE KIND.
WE DO CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER, AND I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SOME FORCES THAT ARE TRYING TO INTRODUCE TOXICITY AND I REALLY DISLIKE THAT.
I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO REPRESENT MY COMMUNITY AND BE A COMMUNITY LEADER AND SERVE AND HELP PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE, HAVE A VOICE HERE.
I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE HERE AND TO SUPPORT HAVING THIS INTER-SECTIONAL PRIDE FLAG, AND I ABSOLUTELY UNEQUIVOCALLY WANT TO FLY THIS FLAG AND SUPPORT YOU ALL AND SHOW YOU THAT WE WELCOME YOU AND WE INCLUDE YOU.
I'M HAPPY TO SECOND THIS MOTION AND FULLY SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU.
>> I DO WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT WROTE IN EMAIL SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ISSUE.
I READ EVERY ONE OF THEM AND IT TAKES JUST A FEW SECONDS TO GET THAT COMPUTER OUT AND WRITE INTO US AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT FEEDBACK.
I STAND BY MY COMMENTS THAT I MADE BEFORE THAT THIS MAY SEEM ON THE PAPER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY AS A VERY SIMPLE FIX, BUT THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS THAT I THINK AND MAYBE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT BEYOND WHAT WE HEARD TODAY, THAT THIS IS OFFENSIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE.
IT MARGINALIZES CHRISTIANS, FOR EXAMPLE AND IT'S NOT A UNIFYING TOPIC.
IN MY EXPERIENCE FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT WROTE IN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK IT'S BEST THAT WE THINK ABOUT DOING THE BUSINESS OF THE PEOPLE AND FOCUSING ON THE THINGS LIKE THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT AND ALLOW BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS TO FLY WHATEVER FLAG THEY WANT REMEMBERING THAT THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CALIFORNIA FLAGS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT TRULY ENCOMPASS EVERYONE SITTING IN THIS ROOM. THANK YOU.
>> I JUST HAD A POINT OF CLARIFICATION WHERE YOU HAVE CONVERT THE CITY FLAG POLES INTO PUBLIC FORUMS AND GOING BACK TO THE BOSTON CASE WHERE THEY HAD CEREMONIES, WILL THIS PRECLUDE THEN CEREMONIES?
>> FLAG RAISING CEREMONIES? THIS IS NOT AUTHORIZING FLAG RAISING CEREMONY.
>> OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT AUTHORIZING THAT.
DO WE NEED TO HAVE LANGUAGE TO THAT EFFECT?
>> THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS MOTION THAT AUTHORIZES FLAG RAISING CEREMONIES.
>> BUT BY BEING SILENT ON IT, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
>> SOME OF THE OBSERVATIONS I MADE FIRST, LET ME TELL YOU, IT'S A VERY SENSITIVE AND EMOTIONAL ISSUE.
I GUESS WE GOT WELL OVER 100 E-MAILS AND CONTEXTS FROM FOLKS.
CONSIDERING THAT IT'S A VERY CHARGED ISSUE, I GOT TO TELL YOU HOW IMPRESSED I AM FOR BOTH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF RACING THE FLAG OR NOT.
THE AMOUNT OF TACTFUL AND RESPECTFUL E-MAILS WE GOT FAR OUTNUMBER THE ONES THAT WEREN'T TACTFUL AND RESPECTFUL. FOR THAT, THANK YOU.
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ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT WHETHER WE RAISED THE FLAG HERE OR WE DON'T RAISE THE FLAG HERE, CITY HALL IS A WELCOMING PLACE.I WOULD ARGUE THAT OUR FLAG DOESN'T MAKE US A WELCOMING PLACE.
IT'S THE HUMANS THAT ARE INSIDE OF OUR CITY HALL.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES US A WELCOMING LOCATION.
I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TO SAY THAT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY TO OUR ENTIRE CITY.
LAST TIME WE VOTED ON THIS, I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE DIVISIVENESS.
IF WE SAY YES TO ONE, HOW IN THE WORLD DO I FACE ANOTHER GROUP AND SAY NO TO THAT GROUP? I'M GOING TO VOTE NO, BUT ONLY BASED ON THAT ONE THING.
I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT ANY ORGANIZATION, AND I DON'T JUDGE ANYBODY, AND I ABSOLUTELY RESPECT LBGTQ ORGANIZATIONS.
BUT MY WHOLE ARGUMENT IS BASED ON, I JUST CAN'T SAY YES TO ONE GROUP AND THEN HAVE TO SAY NO TO OTHER GROUPS.
WITH THAT, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANOTHER STATEMENT? THEN LET'S REITERATE YOUR MOTION. OH, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. LET'S VOTE.
IT PASSES 3 TO 2 WHERE THE FLAG WILL BE RAISED.
I'LL GIVE IT A COUPLE OF MINUTES. I'M SORRY.
LET ME GIVE IT A COUPLE OF MOMENTS FOR EVERYBODY TO LEAVE SO WE CAN LEAVE ORDERLY.
WE'LL GET BACK IN SESSION AT 06:35.
[9. ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 OPERATING BUDGET, STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PROGRAM AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 APPROPRIATION LIMIT AND REVISION OF FEES AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.>> YES. ITEM NUMBER 9, WHICH IS THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 23-24, OPERATING BUDGET, STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION, INVESTMENT PROGRAM, AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 APPROPRIATION LIMIT AND REVISION OF FEES AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, LAURA ROCHA, ALONG WITH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, ZACH KORACH.
WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET PRESENTATION TWO WEEKS AGO.
WOULD IT BE OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL IF WE LIMIT THE PRESENTATION TO ANY CHANGES THAT OCCURRED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS AND THEN TO OUR QUESTIONS? I GOT FIVE THUMBS UP, PLEASE.
>> WITH THAT, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO ZACH AND HE WILL PRESENT THE SLIDES WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES SINCE THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET ON MAY 23RD.
>> PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ZACH KORACH, FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE VARIOUS CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET.
FIRST, WE DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT CITY-WIDE EXPENSES.
THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET INCLUDED $371.8 MILLION IN TOTAL EXPENSES.
WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS $200,000 INCREASE.
BUT TO SPECIFY FURTHER, THE INCREASES THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTION THIS EVENING RESIDE WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.
WE WOULD SEE WHEN WE'RE COMPARING PRELIMINARY TO FINAL ADOPTION, TOTAL EXPENDITURES IN THE GENERAL FUND IS INCREASING FROM 211.5-211.7 MILLION.
WE ALSO WANTED TO REITERATE THE SAME INFORMATION WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, MORE SPECIFICALLY, BROKEN DOWN BY DEPARTMENT.
WE CAN SEE THE YEAR-OVER-YEAR CHANGES FROM LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.
AS I MENTIONED, THE ADDITIONAL $200,000 IN APPROPRIATIONS RESIDES, FOR THE MOST PART, WITHIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
GETTING INTO THE SPECIFIC CHANGES, AT THE MAY 23RD, 2023, CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET PRESENTATION, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED STAFF TO INCLUDE AN ALLOCATION OR AN APPROPRIATION OF $20,000 FOR AN INITIAL STUDY FOR THE POTENTIAL VILLAGE PROPERTY BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
THEN SECONDLY, ON JUNE 6TH OF 2023, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD APPROVED A REVISED MANAGEMENT COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS PLAN AT THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS NECESSITATED ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 AMOUNTING TO $176,000.
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IN TOTALITY, JUST UNDER $200,000 IN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATIONS HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-24.ALSO, AT THE MAY 23RD, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET ITEM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED CITY STAFF TO BRING BACK ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE RAILROAD DOUBLE TRACK TRENCHING PROJECT.
SUBSEQUENTLY, TO THAT REQUESTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF HAD ENGAGED SANDAG TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO COMPLETE THE PROJECTS, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING DESIGN WORK, AND ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE.
THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATIONS, RAILROAD CROSSING ELIMINATION GRANT PROGRAM WAS IDENTIFIED AS A PARTICULARLY WELL-SUITED FUNDING SOURCE TO PURSUE.
THE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS GRANT IS EXPECTED TO BE RELEASED THIS SUMMER AND IS EXPECTED TO CLOSE IN FALL OF 2023.
NOW, THE RAISING OR LOWERING OF THE TRACKS INCLUDING IT BEING WITH A BRIDGE, EMBANKMENT, TUNNEL, OR A COMBINATION OF THE THREE, ALSO INCLUDING THE TRENCHING, WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS FUNDING.
THERE IS AN EXPECTED 20 PERCENT LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT BASED ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY.
SANDAG ESTIMATES A TOTAL PROJECT COST OF NEARLY $551 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT IN ITS ENTIRETY, ASSUMING A CONSTRUCTION START DATE IN FISCAL YEAR 2029.
SANDAG ALSO ESTIMATES THE PROJECT COSTS FOR PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING WITH 30 PERCENT OF THE DESIGN WORK COMPLETED, AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE TO BE $26.1 MILLION FOR A FISCAL YEAR 2025 EXPENDITURE.
ULTIMATELY, A LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT OF $5.22 MILLION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECTS THE NEXT PHASE.
AS PART OF THE REQUESTS FROM CITY COUNCIL AND INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH THIS ITEM THIS EVENING, STAFF HAVE PRESENTED THREE OPTIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
THE FIRST BEING AN APPROPRIATION OF $5.22 MILLION OR THE FULL LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT.
THIS WOULD BE FUNDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE.
THIS ACTION WOULD ALSO BE DIRECTING STAFF TO REQUEST THAT SANDAG SUBMIT A FISCAL YEAR 2023 RAILROAD CROSSING ELIMINATION GRANT PROGRAM APPLICATION FOR THE PROJECT, AND SANDAG WOULD SERVE AS THE LEAD AGENCY.
THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO APPROPRIATE 50 PERCENT OF THAT LOCAL MATCH, AGAIN, FUNDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE, ALSO TO DIRECT STAFF AS WELL AS THE CITY SANDAG BOARD REPRESENTATIVE TO REQUEST THAT SANDAG SHARE IN THE COST OF THAT REMAINING 50 PERCENT OR 2.61 MILLION IN REQUIRED LOCAL MATCH FUNDING.
THEN LASTLY, OPTION 3 WOULD BE TO APPROPRIATE SOME OTHER AMOUNT FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE AT THIS TIME, IF ANY, BUT ALSO TO DIRECT STAFF TO RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL AFTER YEAR-END.
AT THAT POINT, WHEN SAVINGS ARE REPORTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023, SO THEN CONSIDER POTENTIAL FURTHER ACTION OR ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATIONS TOWARDS MEETING THAT LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT.
WE WILL SAY THAT BOTH OPTION 2 AND OPTION 3, TO VARYING DEGREES WOULD INCREASE THE RISK OF THE CITY POTENTIALLY MISSING OUT ON THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RISK, IT BEING NOT SUCCEEDING WITH THAT FULL $5.22 MILLION LOCAL MATCH.
WITH THAT, THOSE WERE THE CHANGES.
>> ZACH COULD YOU BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE COMMUNITY BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT ALSO WAS HELD ON JUNE 1ST.
>> ABSOLUTELY. GOING BACK TO THE MAY 23RD, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL DID REQUEST CITY STAFF TO HOLD THE COMMUNITY BUDGET WORKSHOP, AND THAT WAS HELD ON JUNE 1, 2023.
IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT WHERE WE HAD 17 ATTENDEES.
THE CITY STAFF HAD PRESENTED THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT WAS PRESENTED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 23RD.
THERE WERE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT WERE RAISED OR BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF CITY STAFF BY THE ATTENDEES, THOSE WERE DOCUMENTED AND INCLUDED AS PART OF EXHIBIT 16.
>> IF I MAY FIRST, WE WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW OF THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS TONIGHT.
IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT SLIDE UP SO IT'S UP HERE.
IT IS TO ADOPT THE FISCAL YEAR 23/24 BUDGET.
TO ADOPT THE FISCAL YEAR 23/24 APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT, ADOPT THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, AS WELL AS ADOPTING THE GOLF COURSE RESERVE POLICY.
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>> LORI ROBBINS, FOLLOWED BY STEPHEN STEWART.
I WAS WONDERING WHAT I COULD POSSIBLY SAY TO YOU TONIGHT.
AFTER MAKING MANY SPEECHES IN FAVOR OF LOWERING THE TRACKS.
THEN I WAS IN THE VILLAGE AND I RAN INTO A COUPLE FROM PHOENIX.
THEY COME TO CARLSBAD EVERY SUMMER.
THEY TOLD ME THAT CARLSBAD IS THEIR FAVORITE TOWN ON THE COAST.
THEY CREDIT THE EFFECT OF PLANNING OUR TOWN HAS DONE IN THE PAST FOR MANAGING DEVELOPMENT.
CARLSBAD VILLAGE IS A SAFE, FUN TOWN FULL OF MUSIC, EATERIES, OPEN SPACE, PARKS, AND GORGEOUS BEACHES.
IT'S TIME AGAIN TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES FOR THE FUTURE.
A VOTE FOR ALLOCATING THE FULL 5.2 MILLION IS A VOTE TO SAVE LIVES, TO CREATE MORE JOBS, MORE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES, AND TO PREVENT TRAFFIC GRIDLOCK AND DEVELOP MORE LIVABLE AREAS FOR FAMILY HOUSING.
A VOTE TO LOWER THE TRACKS IS A VOTE FOR THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.
>> EXCUSE ME, MAYOR. CAN YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE?
>> THANK YOU. OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE LAST SPEAKER IS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS WHY I KEEP THE CLERK HERE.
SHE KEEPS ME DOING THINGS CORRECTLY.
>> THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEVE STEWART.
I'M ALMOST A 30-YEAR RESIDENT AND CARLSBAD LIVE OFF TAMARAC.
I'M VERY MUCH A PROPONENT OF THE TRENCHING.
I THINK IT WOULD REALLY HELP AQUATIC LIFE IN CARLSBAD.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF PUBLIC OUTREACHES FOR DIFFERENT TRENCHING OPTIONS.
THE TWO OPTIONS BEING EITHER THE VILLAGE ALL ALONE OR EXTENDING IT DOWN TO TAMARAC.
I FIRMLY PROPOSED THAT WE EXTEND TO TRACK TAMARAC.
THE MAIN ISSUE THAT WE'VE SEEN, PARTICULARLY NEAR THE SOUTH OF THE BARRIO, BUT IN THAT GENERAL AREA HAS BEEN NOISE.
JUST THE HORNS ARE CONSTANT AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A REPRIEVE WITH THE RECENT SLIDING PROBLEM IN THE REDUCTION OF TRAINS THE LAST FEW WEEKS, FEW MONTHS.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MUCH MORE DENSIFICATION OF THE BARRIO AREA AND THE CITY ITSELF.
AND AS WE INCREASE THE DENSIFICATION, WHICH I KNOW WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE AND LIVE WITH.
BUT AS WE INCREASE THAT DENSIFICATION NEAR THE CITY AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, WE'RE ALSO INCREASING AT NEAR THE TRAIN CORRIDOR.
THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE CITIZENS THAT ARE GOING TO BE EXPOSED TO WHETHER IT'S THE POLLUTION, OR THE NOISE THAT ARE PROMINENT FROM THE TRAINS.
BY TRENCHING AND BY LOWERING THE TRAINS, WE WON'T HAVE THE NOISE AND THE TRAINS WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE THROUGH MUCH MORE QUICKLY.
IT'S ALSO SAFETY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED IN THE PAST WITH RESPECT TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES ACCESS ACROSS THE TRACKS.
I REALLY BELIEVE THAT PUTTING THE TRENCHING TRACKS, ESPECIALLY IN DOWNTOWN AS WELL, WILL BE TRANSFORMATIVE TO DOWNTOWN.
IT WILL REALLY BE TRANSFORMATIVE.
I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MISS OUT ON ANY OF THESE GRANT FINDINGS. THANK YOU.
>> LARRY BROWN, FOLLOWED BY ANNET SWANSON.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE THIS EVENING.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG ONE, BUT I DO WANT TO FOLLOW WHAT STEVE HAD TO SAY.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY EXCEPT THAT I DO REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS BUDGET FOR THE TRENCHING PROJECT AND THAT IT MIGHT EXTEND ALSO TO THE TAMARAC CROSSING.
THAT HAS A VERY IMPORTANT REASON, PARTLY BECAUSE OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE GOING TOWARD THE EDGE OF THE WATER.
IF THERE'S A TRAIN COMING AND THAT BLOCKS THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, IT WILL BE A PROBLEM FOR THEM.
ANYHOW, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THE FULL BUDGET PRACTICE TONIGHT.
THE AMOUNT IS QUITE LARGE OF COURSE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE WELL WORTH IT.
THE ONE REASON TOO THAT I WANTED TO MENTION OTHERS HAVE IS THAT,
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THERE'S A TOXIC ELEMENT TO THE ENGINES THAT RUN ON DIESEL FUEL.AND IT TOO HAS A PARTICULAR VALUE THAT IS SPREAD THROUGH THE AIR AND BECOMES A TOXIN TO THOSE WHO MAY BREATHE IT IN.
IN ORDER TO LOWER THE TRENCH, IT'S GOING TO CUT DOWN ON THE BLOWING AND DISTRIBUTION OF THAT TOXIC ELEMENT, THE SUBSTANCE THAT CAN GET INTO YOUR LUNGS AND BE HARMFUL TO OUR RESIDENTS.
ANYHOW, I JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS EVENING AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT.
I DID HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I THINK I HAVE TO ASSET ELSE AFTER THE MEETING IS OVER.
I DID WANT TO SAY THOUGH THAT THANK YOU TO ALSO TO CITY MANAGER FOR YOUR WONDERFUL COMMUNICATION TO THE COMMUNITY.
I LEARN FROM IT, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. [NOISE]
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR PRO TEM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THE JOB THAT YOU DO.
LIKE YOU, I CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND INCLUDING ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TROUBLE GETTING ACROSS THE TRACKS OR THE CHILDREN WHO ARE LIVING NEXT DOOR TO THE TRACKS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S GOING TO GO IN.
I GUESS I SHOULD JUST GET THROUGH MY NOTES HERE.
I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT THAT WE'VE GOT POWERFUL ALLIES.
WE ARE NOT ALONE IN WANTING TO LOWER THE TRACKS.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS OFFER THIS TOKEN.
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT TO US, BUT IT WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.
IT WILL SAVE LIVES FOR GENERATIONS.
THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO FOR EVERYONE.
PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, I WONDER IF THEY ALSO THINK ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY.
WE BEAR RESPONSIBILITY FOR NATIONAL AS WELL AS LOCAL SECURITY.
AS YOU'RE LIKELY AWARE, THESE TRACKS ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE R&D RAILROADS FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE.
AS SOON AS CARLSBAD CONTRIBUTES SEED MONEY AND COMMITS TO INCREASE COMMUNITY AND NATIONAL SAFETY, WE HAVE THE POWERFUL SUPPORT ABSTRACT NET, STRATEGIC RAIL CARD, OR A NETWORK AND DEFENSE.
I'VE PERSONALLY SPOKEN WITH DIVISION CHIEF DANIEL ZIDOC, OF THE R&D IN WASHINGTON DC, WHO SAYS THAT THIS LINE IS ESSENTIAL TO NATIONAL DEFENSE AND THE ONLY LINE AVAILABLE FOR THIS AREA OF NATIONAL SECURITY.
ONCE HE RECEIVES A PROPOSAL, HE WILL IMMEDIATELY SUBMIT HIS SUPPORT SO THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE ON IMMEDIATE FAST TRACK FOR PROVIDING FURTHER FEDERAL FUNDING.
HAPPY TO CHAT WITH ANY OF YOU ABOUT THIS.
BY DESIGNATING SEED FUNDS TO IGNITE THE PROJECT OF LOWERING THE TRAIN TRACKS, YOU MAKE A DECISION WITH FORESIGHT, YOU INCLUDE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS, INCLUDING SPECIAL NEEDS PERSONS OF EVERY DESCRIPTION.
YOUR FAR-REACHING AND SOBER YES VOTE WILL SHOW RESPECT AND CARE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AT ALL LEVELS, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, THINK OF THE WHEELCHAIR-BOUND, BLIND, DEAF, ELDERLY FAMILIES OR PEOPLE WITH CHILDREN.
INCREASING NUMBER OF VISITORS AND THE FAMILIES OF LOW-INCOME AND SPECIAL NEEDS WHO ARE LIKELY TO BE LIVING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALONG THE SIDE OF THE TRAIN TRACKS OR JUST EAST OF THE TRACKS IN YEARS TO COME.
THE POPULATION IS INCREASING, DENSITY IS INCREASING, AND TRAIN TRAFFIC IS SCHEDULED TO MORE THAN DOUBLE.
TRAUMATIC TRAIN IMPACT DEATHS WILL ALSO BE INCREASING UNLESS YOU VOTE FOR THIS GREAT GOOD OF SAVING LIVES, IT'S SUPER-IMPORTANT.
YOU GET TO BE A HERO, BUT ISN'T THIS YOUR JOB TO DO THE BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY? I KNOW THAT MATTERS TO YOU ALL.
WE COULD AVOID TOXIC DERAILMENT DISASTER.
THESE HAVE BEEN HAPPENING A LOT LATELY.
IMPROVE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND REDUCE A GREAT DEAL OF COMMUNITY SORROW.
>> SKIP ALAN, FOLLOWED BY MARK PACKARD.
>> THE LADY SAID THAT CARLSBAD IS A ROLE MODEL IN THEIR CITY PLANNING OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS OR MORE.
WHEN WE HAVE FRIENDS THAT COME INTO TOWN, WE CONSTANTLY DRIVE THEM ALL AROUND CARLSBAD AND THEN WE HIT THE OTHER TOWNS AND WE SHOW THEM HOW THE PLANNING OF INDUSTRIAL AND VISITATION AND EVERYTHING IS JUST WONDERFUL.
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THEN OUR WHOLE ENTIRE BEACHES ALL OPEN.WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE IN THE LAST 15 YEARS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY, OUR POPULATION'S GROWING, OUR VISITATION'S GROWING.
THE FORESIGHT OF THIS PANEL BY SAYING YES TO THE FIVE MILLION OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, TO SAY YES TO CONTINUE THE STUDY ABOUT LOWERING THE TRACKS AND THE DOUBLE TRACKS WOULD SET THIS CITY ON ITS CONTINUED FORESIGHT ALONG WITH ITS DESALINIZATION PROGRAMS. YOU GUYS KNOW IT ALL, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND YOU HAVE TO, CAN I USE THIS WORD, STAY ON THAT TRACK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I'VE BEEN WITH YOU BEFORE, SO I WILL BE BRIEF.
AS YOU CAN TELL, DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE PRESENTING DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
I SPOKEN BEFORE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN ABOUT THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS THAT LOWERING OF THE TRACKS WOULD ACCOMPLISH FOR CARLSBAD.
NOT MY NUMBERS, BUT THE FINANCIAL EXPERTS HAVE SAID THAT THE EASIEST ANALOGY THOUGH YOU CAN PICTURE WOULD BE HOW MANY OF YOU, IF YOU HAD, WOULD BE WILLING TO INVEST $1,000 IF IN 20 YEARS YOU COULD GET $20,000 BACK? THAT'S A GOOD RETURN.
NOT MY NUMBERS AGAIN, BUT EXPERTS WHO HAVE STATED IT, THAT'S A COMPARATIVE IF CARLSBAD WOULD INVEST ITS MONEY, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN SPENDING MONEY.
IT'S INVESTING MONEY TO GET A RETURN FOR OUR FUTURE FOR CARLSBAD.
MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT GOOD FORESIGHT IN THE PAST, THAT HAS BROUGHT GREAT RETURNS FOR CARLSBAD.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF MAKING A WISE INVESTMENT THAT WILL BUILD GREAT RETURNS IN THE FUTURE OF FINANCIAL, HEALTH, AND SAFETY AND A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AGAIN, AND MOST OF US, INCLUDING ME, ARE ADVOCATES OF WHAT WE CALL LAGOON TO LAGOON TRENCHING PROJECT THAT WILL SERVE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
>> HI GUYS. I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M A FORMER CPA, I'VE BEEN PART OF MANY PUBLIC BUDGET THINGS FOR A LONG TIME.
I'VE NEVER COME ACROSS A BUDGET WHERE YOU'RE APPROVING EXPENSES OF $10 MILLION MORE THAN YOUR INCOME.
YOU HAVE EXPENSES OF 372, YOUR INCOME IS 362.
THAT'S A RED FLAG TO ME THAT THERE'S 10 MILLION NEGATIVE IN THIS BUDGET.
AS I'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF THE NUMBERS HERE, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT PAGES THAT HAVE SLUSH FUNDS IN THEM AT LEAST THAT'S HOW I READ THEM.
HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS ON E16 AND I'M NOT PICKING OUT HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS PER SE, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE SLUSH ONES ARE.
E16, YOU HAVE OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES OF 13.6 MILLION.
YOU HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN ABOVE THAT OF 800 MILLION HERE, FOUR MILLION HERE, FIVE MILLION HERE, BUT THAT ONE LINE, 13.6 MILLION.
ON E19, ANOTHER HOMELESS PAGE, OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES OF 1.1 MILLION, AND ON E23, ANOTHER HOMELESS PAGE OF OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES OF 11 MILLION.
IT'S 11+13+2, YOU'RE TALKING 27 MILLION IN SLUSH FUND TO ME.
THERE'S JUST OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES NOT BROKEN DOWN ANYWHERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN REQUEST, BY THE WAY, I WENT TO THAT PUBLIC THING IT WAS GREAT, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE TOO LATE BECAUSE AT THAT POINT YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES.
THEY'RE JUST PRESENTING IT AND YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED SOONER WHENEVER THE BUDGET STARTS AGAIN, NEXT TIME IN TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, IF YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN, I'D LIKE THE PUBLIC TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THAT BUDGET GOING FORWARD.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AN AUDIT OF THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS THINGS, TO HAVE 27 MILLION INTO SLUSH FUND TO ME IS RIDICULOUS.
NOW I KNOW THAT MONEY MAY BE COMING FROM THE STATE, BUT YOU STILL NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR WHERE IT'S GOING OUT AND HOW IT'S BEING SPENT.
MAYOR, ARE YOU PART OF THAT? PLEASE VOTE NO FOR THE DRIVER TAX THAT THEY'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON.
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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT, BUT THEY'RE ABOUT TO TAX US AGAIN, JUST FOR DRIVING YOUR CAR.I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YOU VOTED NO ON THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
>> THANK YOU. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. MS. BHAT-PATEL.
>> SURE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEF PRESENTATION.
JUST THANKS TO OUR SPEAKERS, OF COURSE, FOR COMING OUT.
THEN I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE TRENCHING OPTIONS THAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD.
I HAVE A FEW, SO JUST BEAR WITH ME.
I TRIED TO WRITE THEM ALL DOWN.
THEY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.
BUT JUST QUICK QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE OPTIONS.
IS THERE A WAY AND COULD YOU SHOW THOSE TO ME JUST SO I CAN POINT TO THEM? I KNOW THAT OPTION 1 TALKS ABOUT APPROPRIATING THE ENTIRE AMOUNT $5.22 VERSUS OPTION 2 IS HALF, AND THEN HAVING THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE REMAINING COST KICKED IN BY SANDAG.
WOULD THAT BE A GUARANTEE? I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
>> OPTION 2 WOULD NOT BE A GUARANTEE.
>> IS THERE A WAY, AND BRAINSTORMING OUT LOUD HERE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE COULD APPROPRIATE AND THEN WE DON'T GET THE FUNDING.
THEN WE THEN HAVE TO POTENTIALLY APPROPRIATE MORE.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS JUST THE STARTING.
IF IT'S OVER $300 MILLION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO AT SOME POINT APPROPRIATE MORE.
THIS IS JUST US STARTING OUT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE STUDY AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.
>> FOR THIS SPECIFICALLY, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY IF WE WERE LIKE, HEY, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH AN OPTION.
I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO GET A COMMITMENT FROM SANDAG BEFORE WE ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE OUR OWN FUNDS SO THAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW THAT THERE IS A GUARANTEE VERSUS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST WHILE YOU WERE TALKING, I WAS THINKING OUT LOUD AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
>> I'M GOING TO INVITE JASON HABER, INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR TO SEE IF HE'S GOT ANY ADDITIONAL INSIGHT. JASON.
>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.
JUST TO CLARIFY, I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IN TERMS OF A GUARANTEE FROM SANDAG.
IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH SANDAG STAFF, THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO THE CONCEPT THAT IF WE PROVIDE THE FULL 20 PERCENT LOCAL MATCH, THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE MANPOWER TO ADMINISTER THE GRANT APPLICATION AND SERVE AS THE LEAD AGENCY.
WE HAVE NO COMMITMENT OR GUARANTEE FROM SANDAG AT THIS POINT TO PROVIDE ANY OF THE LOCAL MATCH FUNDING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
>> MY QUESTION WAS AROUND THE COST-SHARING.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S THE OPTION THAT WE'RE PRESENTING HERE.
FOR US TO MAKE THAT DECISION IN A WAY WITHOUT KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO COMMIT, THAT'S THE ONLY HEARTBURN THAT I HAVE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FROM THESE OPTIONS WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, I GUESS I WOULD JUST SAY AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM SANDAG STAFF IS THAT THEY HAVE NO DISCRETIONARY FUNDING IDENTIFIED AND AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE ANY PORTION OF THE LOCAL MATCH.
IN THE EVENT THAT WE WANTED TO GO SEEK A COMMITMENT OF A LOCAL MATCH FROM THEM, THAT WOULD BE A BOARD DECISION.
THERE WOULD BE A FORMAL REQUEST FROM THE CITY OF CARLSBAD THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE TO SANDAG AND THEN SOME ADVOCACY AT THE BOARD LEVEL, AS WELL AS AT THE MORE EXECUTIVE LEVEL OF STAFF AT SANDAG TO SEE IF WE COULD GET A COMMITMENT FROM SANDAG TO PROVIDE ANY PORTION OF THAT LOCAL MATCH.
>> I'LL JUST THROW IT OUT THERE. I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF WE COULD DO THAT, WHAT YOU JUST ARTICULATED AND I'LL GO INTO SOME OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL DETAIL WHY I'M THINKING OF THIS PARTICULAR, IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN OPTION, WHY THIS PARTICULAR OPTION MODIFIED MIGHT MAKE SENSE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M SO SORRY. I KNOW IT'S NOT NORMAL THAT WE DO THAT, BUT THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT IS WE APPROPRIATE 5.2 MILLION.
IF THE GRANT IS NOT AWARDED TO US, WE DON'T LOSE THE 5.2 MILLION. IS THAT ACCURATE?
WE WOULD HOLD THOSE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATED IN CITY ACCOUNTS.
NOTHING WOULD LEAVE THE CITIES HOLD UNTIL THE GRANT WAS AWARDED AND THE CALL FOR
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THE LOCAL MATCH FUNDS WAS REQUIRED AT THE TIME THAT THE GRANT WAS FUNDED.>> THERE'S NO RISK THAT IF THE GRANT IS NOT GRANTED, DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING?
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT I'M JUST STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE COULD COST-SHARE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR US TO COST CUT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
THEN [NOISE] IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, AND I KNOW NCTD IS ALSO INVOLVED WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
WAS THERE ANY ALLOCATION THAT THEY HAD MENTIONED, I'M ON THE BOARD BUT I WANT TO HEAR IT FROM THE STUFF, THAT THEY'D BE WILLING TO POTENTIALLY ALSO BE A PART OF IN TERMS OF COST-SHARE IN CASE WE WERE TO PUT FORWARD OUR OWN?
>> AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE AN NCTD BOARD DECISION TO APPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS.
WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH NCTD STAFF WHO HAVE INDICATED THAT NO DISCRETIONARY FUNDS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS COST-SHARING.
>> [NOISE] THEN, IS THERE A WAY THAT IF WE DID DECIDE WHICHEVER OPTION THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CAP THE NUMBER BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS WILL, OBVIOUSLY, BASED ON PAST PRECEDENT WITH OTHER PROJECTS, THE COST WILL LIKELY RISE AT LEAST WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, MAYBE NOT, WHO KNOWS.
BUT I THINK I JUST AM CURIOUS IF THERE'S A WAY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE MONROE POOL, WE HAD A CAP THAT WE HAD PUT ON THERE.
IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST FOR NOW WE WOULD CAP THE ALLOCATION HERE?
>> WHATEVER APPROPRIATION THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZES THROUGH THE BUDGET ACTION WOULD BE THE DEFACTO CAP IN TERMS OF OUR CONTRIBUTION AT THIS POINT.
SANDAG'S ESTIMATE OF THE $26.1 MILLION IS ESCALATED TO THE YEAR OF EXPENDITURE THAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING.
IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT GRANT OPPORTUNITY OR THE FUTURE GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING, THE PROJECTION IS FOR A YEAR OF EXPENDITURE, I BELIEVE FOR 2025, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN WORK.
THAT COST PROJECTION GOES TO THAT POINT.
SHOULD WE NOT BE AWARDED THE GRANT TO ADVANCE THAT SCOPE OF WORK ON THAT TIME-FRAME, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR FUTURE ESCALATION AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT.
BUT WITHOUT COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION OR APPROPRIATION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS, OUR CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE CAPPED THERE, AND AGAIN WE WILL BE LOOKING TO OTHER SOURCES TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT ARE NEEDED.
>> THEN I KNOW I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION BY PEOPLE, SO I'M JUST ASKING THIS QUESTION ON BEHALF OF SOME FOLKS, BUT WOULD THIS NEED TO GO TO THE PEOPLE FOR A VOTES AND DOES THIS KICK IN ANY OF THE MEASURES THAT WE'VE PASSED IN THE PAST?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO A PROP H VOTE AND I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME.
>> BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE NOW, WE DON'T BELIEVE A PROP H VOTE IS REQUIRED.
THE INFORMATION CHANGES THAT RECOMMENDATION MAY CHANGE.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE MORE ON THIS.
IN TERMS OF THE FUNDS, I KNOW OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A GRANT AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS, OBVIOUSLY, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING, IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY FOR MANY YEARS, IT PREDATES WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS WHETHER IT'S IN THE PAST OR NOW WITH OUR STATE AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES.
I KNOW GENERALLY SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS ARE THE ONES THAT GET FUNDED OR GET FUNDING FROM ANY OF THOSE REPRESENTATIVES.
FROM ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE NEAR PAST, IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN WANTING TO PUT FUNDS INTO? THE REASON I ASK IS IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO, AGAIN, GET HELP ON THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY AGENCY PUTTING FUNDS FORWARD.
WE HAVE HAD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH CONGRESSMAN LEVENE'S OFFICE.
HE'S INDICATED THAT HE'S WILLING TO SUPPORT ANY INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY WANTS TO PURSUE IN TERMS OF GOING AFTER FEDERAL FUNDING OR OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
NEITHER OUR STATE OR FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES HAVE IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCES PER SE.
I WILL SAY THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PROJECTS FUNDING PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE FUNDING, SIGNIFICANT FUNDING CONTRIBUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS ADVOCATING.
WE HAVE RAISED THE QUESTION OF RAILROAD TRENCHING IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS PREVIOUSLY.
OTHER PRIORITIES HAVE RISEN TO THE TOP IN TERMS OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES PRIORITIES AND
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SO THIS PROJECT HASN'T RECEIVED FUNDING AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY PURSUED IT AGGRESSIVELY THROUGH THAT PROCESS.I'D IMAGINE AS THINGS PROGRESS AND GO FORWARD AND THE PROJECT BECOMES MORE REAL, THERE'S LIKELIHOOD FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE SUPPORT.
>> I THINK THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION ON THIS.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT ON THE FINANCIAL STABILITY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A WHOLE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING, THIS I KNOW PULLS OUT OF RESERVES.
I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AROUND HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT JUST THE OUTLOOK, THE FORECAST, ANYTHING WITH THAT REGARD?
>> AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IF THE CITY COUNCIL WERE TO DECIDE TO APPROPRIATE THE 5.22 MILLION FOR THE REQUIRED LOCAL MATCH.
THAT WOULD BE A ONETIME USE OF GENERAL FUND RESERVE.
CURRENTLY, WE'RE PROJECTING TO END FISCAL YEAR 23, 24 AT ABOUT 118 MILLION FOR THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE, THAT TRANSLATES TO 59% IN RESPECT TO COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 74.
IF THAT APPROPRIATION WERE AUTHORIZED, THE HEALTH, THE PHYSICAL CONDITION OF THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE WOULD STILL BE STRONG.
THE QUESTION THAT WOULD BE YET TO BE ANSWERED IS FUTURE APPROPRIATIONS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO FURTHER ADVANCE THE PROJECT.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE IMPORTANT PART IS THAT THIS WOULD BE A ONETIME USE OF GENERAL FUND RESERVE AS OPPOSED TO ONGOING.
IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT OF THE GENERAL FUND FORECASTS AND THE FIVE-YEAR OUTLOOK THAT WE COMMONLY PRESENT LIKELY WOULD NOT HAVE AN IMPACT.
>> I WILL AGAIN CLARIFY WHAT THE MAYOR HAD ASKED, WHICH IS IF WE ARE UNSUCCESSFUL WITH THE GRANT, THAT MONEY WOULD COME BACK.
>> BE RETURNED TO THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES. YES.
>> I MAY ADD AS WELL, IN ADDITION TO WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT 40% OF OUR GENERAL FUND RESERVE EQUATES TO ABOUT 79 MILLION.
WE HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT 38 MILLION EXCESS AND RESERVES CURRENTLY OVER AND ABOVE THE REQUIRED POLICY, SO REDUCING THAT BY 5.2 MILLION JUST TO PROVIDE THE NUMBER AROUND WHAT WOULD BE LEFT IN TERMS OF EXCESS.
BECAUSE NOT ONLY FOR APPROPRIATIONS IS RELATIVE TO THIS, BUT OTHER APPROPRIATIONS AND PRIORITIES THAT COUNCIL HAS CURRENTLY.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. BEFORE I ASK MY NON-RELATED QUESTION, I'M GOING TO JUMP ON THIS BANDWAGON FOR A MINUTE AND ASK ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS IN THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN, IS THIS IN SANDAG PRIORITIES AT ALL? IS IT EVEN ON THEIR RADAR? IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> YES. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ASSURANCES FROM SANDAG STAFF AND THEY CAN IDENTIFY A LINE ITEM IN THE 2021 REGIONAL PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES FUNDING FOR LOW SAN CORRIDOR TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT IS A LUMP SUM OVER CLOSE TO $2.9 BILLION ACROSS SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ON THE LOW SAN CORRIDOR.
WITHIN THAT, SANDAG STAFF HAS INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE PLUG NUMBER OF 359, CLOSE TO $360 MILLION THAT ARE IDENTIFIED FOR THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE DOUBLE TRACK TRENCHING PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY.
IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE RTP, SO WE DON'T NEED TO GET IT IN THERE.
WAS A BIGGER PORTION OF THAT OR AS ANY OF OUR CARLSBAD ALLOCATION BEING MOVED OVER TO DEL MAR.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S A REALLY EXPENSIVE PROJECT.
>> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. THERE WAS A SPECIFIC STATE ALLOCATION, I THINK $300 MILLION THAT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT IS LARGELY GOING TO DRESSING THE DESIGN FOR THAT SEGMENT OF THE RAIL CORRIDOR.
I HAVE NOT HEARD AND SANDAG HAS NOT TOLD US THAT ANY OF THE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THE CARLSBAD SEGMENT ARE BEING REPURPOSED.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. I DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT IF WE AREN'T ABLE TO GET THE MATCH, THAT THE FUNDS BE RETURNED.
I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THIS AND SUPPORT IT.
THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
I JUST WONDERED, SWITCHING AWAY FROM THIS TOPIC AND THIS PORTION OF THE BUDGET AND THIS SLIDE, IF WE COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MADE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS FUNDING, THERE WERE JUST SOME QUESTIONS AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANSWERS TO THEM AND I'M HOPING THAT ONE OF YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
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I BELIEVE THE FIRST SPEAKER'S COMMENTS WHERE IT WAS IN REGARDS TO THE CITY'S TOTAL SPENDING BEING HIGHER THAN THE TOTAL CITY REVENUES BY ABOUT $10 MILLION.THE MAJORITY OF THAT COMES FROM THE CITY'S ENTERPRISE FUNDS IN THEIR ENTIRETY.
ENTERPRISE FUNDS DO OPERATE A BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER FUN TYPES, SPECIFICALLY THE GENERAL FUND, WHERE THE RELIANCE OR THE FINANCIAL DEPENDENCE ON PREVIOUSLY ACCUMULATED RESOURCES, WE REFER TO THIS AS FUN BALANCE IS PERMISSIBLE.
THIS IS BY DESIGN WHEN WE LOOK AT EXPENDITURES COMING IN AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN REVENUES, IT IS BY DESIGN THAT WE ARE RELYING ON THAT PREEXISTING FUND BALANCE AMOUNT.
WE SEE THIS, I'LL SAY TO A HIGHER DEGREE, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE ARE PLANNING TO INVEST IN THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS HAVE NOT BEEN MET AND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT THAT'S REQUIRED.
WE'LL SEE ADOPTED BUDGETS WHERE EXPENDITURES WILL COME IN WITH AN ENTERPRISE FUNDS AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN REVENUE.
MOVING ON TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES AND WITHIN SPECIFICALLY THE OTHER OPERATING ACCOUNT LINE ITEMS WITHIN THE RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS MUCH OF THAT RELATES TO RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND CDBG, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, EFFECTIVELY DIRECT RENTAL ASSISTANCE PAYMENTS IN GRANT FUNDING EXPENDITURES.
THE REASON WHY THEY'RE INCLUDED IN AN EXPENDITURE DESCRIPTION SUCH AS OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES IS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT REALLY FALL IN LINE AS THEY WOULD WITH PERSONNEL OR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING COSTS.
BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THEY ARE GRANT-FUNDED EXPENDITURES.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE SLUSH FUNDS.
[LAUGHTER] THERE ARE THERE ARE ALLOCATIONS THAT ARE MADE FOR EVERY PROGRAM AND IT MAY BE JUST THE TERMINOLOGY AROUND THAT BUDGET ITEM.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT CATEGORIES FOR THOSE BUDGET ITEMS.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. IF I MAY ADD TO THAT AS WELL, IN REGARDS TO CITY AUDITS, THE CITY'S FINANCES AND HOW THE CITY ACCOUNTS FOR ITS RESOURCES IS AUDITED BY AN INDEPENDENT EXTERNAL AUDIT FIRM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
AS OF THE MOST RECENT YEAR ENDED FOR JUNE 30, 2022 THE CITY RECEIVED AN UNMODIFIED OR A CLEAN OPINION.
IN TERMS OF THOSE EXTERNAL AUDITS, IN ADDITION TO AN ARRAY OF OTHERS PERFORMED BY OTHER AGENCIES, THE CITY IS STAYING ON TOP OF THAT.
>> GREAT. DON'T WE HAVE AN INTERNAL AUDIT PROCESS AS WELL? CAN YOU SHARE WHAT THAT IS?
>> WE DO HAVE AN INTERNAL AUDIT PROGRAM.
WE HAVE INTERNAL FULL-TIME POSITION DEDICATED SERVING AS THE CITY'S INTERNAL AUDIT MANAGER ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INTERNAL AUDIT PLAN WHICH IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY.
THE INTERNAL AUDITOR CARRIES OUT THOSE AUDITS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND REPORTS OUT ON THE PROGRESS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
>. GREAT. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ASK EVERY QUESTION OF OUR FINANCE TEAM AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE'RE TRANSPARENT.
WE'VE GOT TO BUILD THAT TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S A SLUSH FUND OR ANYTHING HIDDEN THERE.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS.
>> I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS, SO I'LL HOLD UNTIL COMMENTS.
>> ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME, NOT OR IF IT'S ON COMMENTS, BUT I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE LATE COMMENTING HERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THE GOLF COURSE RESERVE POLICY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO BRING THAT UP.
>> GO AHEAD AND ASK STAFF WHATEVER THE QUESTION REGARDING THAT IS.
>> THIS IS OUR GOLF COURSE RESERVE POLICY, AND TO SPARE GOING INTO A 15-MINUTE DISSERTATION ON THE MONIES COMING IN AND OUT, I'D LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
AND IN REVIEWING THIS AND TALKING TO OTHER FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT IN ORDER FOR THE GOLF COURSE ENTERPRISE FUND TO CONTINUE BEING SELF-SUFFICIENT AND TO NOT BE FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT ON THE GENERAL FUND.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE GOLF COURSE TO FOCUS ON ITS OPERATIONAL AND CAPITAL NEEDS.
EVEN MAKING REPAYMENTS TO THE GENERAL FUND COULD IMPACT THE GOLF COURSE'S ABILITY TO FUND ITS ONGOING NEEDS.
AS A RESULT, I'D RECOMMEND REMOVING ITEM NUMBER 4 THE GENERAL FUND REPAYMENT PRIORITY FROM THE POLICY.
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AND I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL IF YOU NEED THAT.FURTHERMORE, I'D LIKE TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON THE ACTIVITIES OF THE GOLF COURSE.
IT'S A FABULOUS, FABULOUS OPPORTUNITY.
AND I'D RECOMMEND THAT THE DISTRICT 2 REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEET WITH THE GOLF COURSE STEERING COMMITTEE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO STAY UP TO DATE WITH ITS FINANCIAL AND OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE.
AND THEN THAT WAY SERVE AS A LIAISON TO THE PUBLIC.
>> STAFF, HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT?
>> AT THIS TIME, THERE WOULD BE NO CONCERNS WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION.
>> WAS THAT A MOTION, COUNCIL MEMBER?
>> WELL, WE HAVE FOUR MOTIONS I THINK MS. ROCHER SAID.
SO I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT WHEN THAT COMES UP, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD MOVE.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY.
DID YOU SAY TO REMOVE NUMBER 4 AND NOT HAVE ANY REPAYMENT?
>> CORRECT. IT WOULD STAY BECAUSE THE REPAYMENT THAT WE WOULD BE RECEIVING WOULD BE VERY MINUTE.
ACTUALLY PROBABLY TRANSFERRING FROM THE GOLF COURSE ACCOUNT TO OUR GENERAL FUND COULD EVEN BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE REVENUE THAT WE WOULD BE TRANSFERRING OVER THERE.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE MATHEMATICALLY.
IN ADDITION, THAT WAY, WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP AND REPLENISH THE GOLF COURSE FUNDING BY AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE GENERAL FUND AND ASK THEM FOR TRANSFERS OF MONIES.
>> WAIT, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
SO THE REASON I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS THERE IS BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN REQUESTING REPAYMENT OF THE $47,000,000 TRANSFER FROM OUR GENERAL FUND TO THE GOLF COURSE ON TOP OF WHAT IT COST TO BUILD IT AND SO THERE WILL BE ZERO REPAYMENT?
>> BASICALLY, IT'S NOT BOOKED THAT WAY ANY LONGER.
SO YES, THERE WOULD BE NO REPAYMENT.
IT WOULD JUST SIT WITH THE GOLF COURSE OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
>> SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING FORGIVENESS OF THE $47,000,000 LOAN TO THE GOLF COURSE?
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW TECHNICALLY IF IT'S BEING FORGIVEN.
IT IS BASICALLY TAKEN OFF OF OUR BOOKS AS A LOAN.
SO WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS ACTUALLY RETURNING MONEY TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT WOULD PROBABLY COST US MORE MONEY THAN IT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL REVENUES GARNISHED.
SO LET'S SAY WE WERE TO MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS IN PROFIT AND TRANSFER IT OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND, MAYBE LOOKING AT 47 YEARS BEFORE WE WOULD REALIZE THAT IT MAKES BETTER SENSE TO LEAVE IT HOUSED IN THE GOLF COURSE.
ZACH MAYBE CAN HELP ME WITH THE TERMINOLOGY.
>> SURE. SO THIS POLICY DOES AT THIS TIME CALL FOR, WHEN APPLICABLE, A GENERAL FUND TRANSFER OR A REPAYMENT NOT TO EXCEED THREE PERCENT OF GROSS REVENUES.
MOST RECENTLY, WE'VE BEEN SEEING THE GOLF COURSE REVENUES JUST NOW REACH HISTORIC HIGHS OF JUST OVER $10 MILLION.
WE ARE PLANNING AT THIS POINT IN TIME UNLESS ANYTHING CHANGES BETWEEN NOW AND YEAR-END IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS PROPOSED POLICY, IF APPROVED OR IF ADOPTED, WE'D BE RETURNING TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR REPAYMENT IN EXCESS OF $300,000.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA, I BELIEVE YOU THREW OUT THE EXAMPLE OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
THIS POLICY CURRENTLY CAPS THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE REPAID IN ANY GIVEN YEAR AT THREE PERCENT OF GROSS REVENUES.
>> OKAY. SO LET ME JUST ASK THE QUESTION THEN TO STAFF.
CURRENTLY, THE $47,000,000 LOAN THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE CROSSINGS, OUR MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE, IS A LOAN THAT IS EXPECTED TO BE REPAID, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN.
IT WAS A LOAN. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> IT WAS A LOAN AND TECHNICALLY IN ADVANCE FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE GOLF COURSE.
THE AUDIT RECOMMENDATION CAME ABOUT, EVALUATED THE LIKELINESS OF REPAYMENT IN THE NEAR FUTURE,
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AND ULTIMATELY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF REPAYMENT WAS UNCERTAIN.AS A RESULT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS, THAT IT NEEDED TO BE REPORTED NO LONGER AS A LOAN, BUT RATHER AS A TRANSFER OR A PERMANENT MOVEMENT OF FUNDS.
HOWEVER, AT THAT TIME, IT WAS THE CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, WHILE WRITING IT OFF FROM THE CITY'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, TO CONTINUE TO TRACK IT AND MONITOR IT.
IN OTHER WORDS, NOT FORGIVE IT.
SINCE THAT POINT IN TIME, IT HAS REMAINED AS A FOOTNOTE TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IN THE CITY'S ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT AS AN OUTSTANDING COMMITMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE TO THE GENERAL FUND.
>> OKAY. SO I WAS HERE WHEN THAT TECHNICAL CHANGE WAS MADE TO OUR GAAP ACCOUNTING.
WE WERE TOLD, YOU MUST, COUNCIL, YOU MUST, IT IS REQUIRED.
IT IS AN ACCOUNTING STANDARD, YOU MUST CHANGE THE LANGUAGE FROM LOAN TO TRANSFER, BUT YOU HAVE NOT CHANGED THE IDENTITY OF THIS LOAN.
IT IS STILL A LOAN AND WE WILL COME UP WITH A PLAN.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW AND WE DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT AT SOME POINT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPAY.
IT WAS NEVER A GIFT OR A GRANT.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD AND IT WAS BEFORE YOU WERE HERE, MR. GRAJ.
BUT I REMEMBER BECAUSE IT WAS SHOCKING.
FORTY-SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS WAS GIVEN FROM OUR GENERAL FUND TO OUR MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD DO NOT USE.
SO THIS WAS GIVEN AND THERE IS NO REPAYMENT PLAN.
SO I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR A REPAYMENT PLAN AT SOME POINT.
I THINK THIS IS NOT PERFECT, THIS RESERVE POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR THE GOLF COURSE TO FUND ITS OWN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE TO SAVE SOME OF THE PROFITS THAT IT MAKES, AND ALSO TO FINALLY START MAKING SOME TOKEN REPAYMENTS.
I'D LOVE TO SEE A BETTER PLAN.
THIS IS SOMETHING, BUT FORGIVENESS OF THE LOAN IS SOMETHING I WOULD NOT SUPPORT AND HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED.
I'M SORRY FOR ANY MISINFORMATION OR MISUNDERSTANDING THAT I MAY HAVE HAD WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA BECAUSE I WOULD NOT SUPPORT FORGIVENESS OF THIS LOAN.
WE DO NOT CURRENTLY FORGIVE IT.
IT WAS NEVER AN INTENTION TO FORGIVE IT.
IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A GIFT, AND I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A FORMAL MOTION?
>> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT ON OUR GOLF COURSE RESERVE POLICY, THAT ITEM NUMBER 4 BE DELETED AND THAT THE DISTRICT 2 REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD MEET WITH THE GOLF COURSE STEERING COMMITTEE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS IN ORDER TO STAY UP TO DATE WITH ITS FINANCIAL AND OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE.
>> OKAY. ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER IF THEY WANT TO MEET WITH THEM.
I THINK THAT'S BECOMING TOO DOWN INTO THE BRUSH.
THAT'S NOT OUR JOB, THAT'S THE JOB OF OUR STAFF.
BUT THAT DOESN'T PREVENT ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM MEETING WITH THEM.
THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THE $300,000 TRANSFER IS WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.
I HAVE A HARD TIME ASKING STAFF TO COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAN DISREGARDING THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE ARGUMENT FROM THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
>> I BELIEVE THAT THE MAXIMUM IS $300 AND THAT'S WHEN WE ARE REALIZING A PROFIT.
WHEN WE DON'T REALIZE A PROFIT AND WE CANNOT REPAY THE GENERAL FUND 3% OF THE GROSS REVENUES.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GO FOR MAINTENANCE AND FACILITIES OPERATION TO THE GENERAL FUND AND REQUESTS THAT WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO GIVE ANY MONEY BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR HOW MANY YEARS, ZACH?
>> I APOLOGIZE. THE QUESTION WAS, HOW MANY YEARS HAS THE LOAN? [OVERLAPPING]
>> HAS A 3% OF THE GROSS REVENUE COME OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND.
THE LAST TWO ZEROS ARE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE HAD NOT BEEN ANY PAYMENTS [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO MONEY AT ALL? BUT UNDER THIS IN YOUR PROJECTIONS, WE DON'T KNOW, CORRECT? WE'VE HAD TWO BANNER YEARS, WE MAY NOT.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S CERTAINLY BEEN AN INCREASED DEMAND IN OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, SPECIFICALLY GOLF SINCE THE START OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME NORMALIZATION WITH THAT PENT-UP DEMAND SLOWLY DECREASING.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES AT THE GOLF COURSE ASIDE FROM GOLF THAT'S GENERATED, THAT'S THRIVING AS WELL.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, THE QUESTION REMAINS, IN TERMS OF THESE BANNER YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS,
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PARTICULARLY, WILL THAT CONTINUE? IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A FISCAL YEAR WHERE REVENUES COME IN EQUAL OR EQUIVALENT TO THE TOTAL EXPENSES, THEN THE GOLF COURSE WOULD NOT AT THAT POINT BE ABLE TO MEET EVEN CRITERIA NUMBER 2, WITH THE CAPITAL RESERVE SETTING ASIDE 10% OF GROSS REVENUES.THEN CRITERIA OR PRIORITY 3 WOULD KICK IN WHERE THE FOLLOWING YEAR THERE WOULD BE THE REPLENISHMENT PERIOD.
THERE COULD BE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE ANOTHER GENERAL FUND TRANSFER OR REPAYMENT WOULD BE APPLICABLE.
YOU WOULD BE TRANSFERRING A MINISCULE AMOUNT BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE THAT IT WAS A LOAN AND THAT WE HAVE A CONCERN THAT WE'RE FORGIVING A LOAN, BUT IN REALITY, THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS BEING SENT OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND IS MINUSCULE AND TO TAKE 300,000 FOR 47 MILLION, I'LL BE ASHES SOMEWHERE IN THE EARTH.
[LAUGHTER] SO IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE COMMON SENSE JUST TO ME WAS WHY DON'T WE JUST LEAVE IT WITH THE OPERATIONAL SIDE, THE FACILITY SIDE, AND WHY STRANGLE THEM WHEN ACTUALLY WHAT THEY WOULD BE COUGHING UP WOULDN'T REALLY BE THAT MUCH TO BEGIN WITH AND TO REALIZE REPAYMENT OF THE $47 MILLION WOULD BE DECADES.
SO IT'S JUST A COMMON SENSE APPROACH.
>> [NOISE] I'M GOING TO TURN TO STAFF AGAIN, HELP EDUCATE ME.
I WASN'T ABLE TO ASK STAFF FOR A BRIEFING ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE PROS AND CONS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, OR DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA?
>> WELL, IN TERMS OF THE PROS, ASSUMING CONTINUED POSITIVE PERFORMANCE AT THE GOLF COURSE AND LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FUTURE YEARS WHERE A GENERAL FUND TRANSFER REPAYMENT WOULD EXIST.
THAT WOULD MEAN ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND VIA THOSE REPAYMENTS.
SO THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, AFTER A SERIES OF THESE REPAYMENTS MADE BY THE GOLF COURSE AND AGAIN, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THE GOLF COURSE WERE TO ENTER IN DIRE FINANCIAL TIMES, IF REVENUE PERFORMANCE WASN'T AS STRONG AS WHAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING RECENTLY, THE GOLF COURSE COULD ENTER A PERIOD WHERE THEY WOULD BE EXPERIENCING DEFICITS, EXPENSES COMING IN HIGHER THAN THEIR REVENUES AT WHICH POINT, THERE COULD BE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE NEED TO CALL UPON THE GENERAL FUND ONCE AGAIN AND ASK FOR SOME OF THOSE REPAYMENTS, IF NOT POTENTIALLY MORE.
IT REALLY IS A POLICY DECISION AT THE LEVEL OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THERE ARE PROS AND CONS ON BOTH SIDES. I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
>> HELLO EVERYONE. LET ME BRING IT DOWN TO MY LEVEL AND YOU TELL ME IF I'M CORRECT OR NOT.
THE CITY OWNS THE GOLF COURSE.
WE FUND IT WHEN IT HAS A DEFICIT NEEDS MONEY, WE'D FUND THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES.
WE'RE SAYING IF THEY DO WELL, GIVE BACK SOME OF IT TO THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MS. LUNA IS SAYING, WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? WHY DON'T WE JUST LET THEM BUILD THEIR OWN RESERVE AND THEN IF THEY START TO DO REALLY WELL, THEY HAVE EXCESSIVE RESERVES, IT'S STILL OUR MONEY, SO WE CAN ALWAYS TRANSFER THAT.
THE GOLF COURSE OPERATES UNDER THE PUBLIC FINANCING AUTHORITY.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FINANCING AUTHORITY ARE THE SAME MEMBERS AS THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT YES, TECHNICALLY, THE GOLF COURSE IS OWNED BY THE PUBLIC FINANCING AUTHORITY AND ANY ASSETS OR REPAYMENTS MADE FROM THE GOLF COURSE TO THE GENERAL FUND.
IF THERE WAS A NEED, THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSISTING.
>> THE GOLF COURSE IS OURS AND IF THEY HAVE A LARGE FUND, REVENUE RESERVE, WE CAN ALWAYS TRANSFER SOME OF THE MONEY OUT OF THE RESERVE BACK INTO OUR GENERAL FUND. IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> YES, SO LONG AS THERE IS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS LOAN THAT WAS WRITTEN OFF CONTINUES TO BE TRACTED, THAT IT IS NOT FORGIVEN, AND THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THE PERFORMANCE AT THE GOLF COURSE
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AND EVALUATE THE APPROPRIATE TIME IF NOW IS NOT THAT APPROPRIATE TIME, PERHAPS LATER IN THE FUTURE.>> THANK YOU. MS. LUNA, WITH THE CLARIFICATION THAT IT'S OUR MONEY, WHETHER WE STICK IT IN OUR RESERVES OR STICK IT IN THE GOLF COURSE RESERVES.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WITH THAT INFORMATION AS LONG AS YOU TAKE OUT THE REQUIREMENT FOR DISTRICT 2 REP TO BE INVOLVED IN THE FINANCES, I'D BE OKAY WITH SUPPORTING IT.
>> THAT WAS ONLY PUT IN FOR THAT VERY REASON AND THAT IF THE GOLF COURSE WAS HAVING A BUNCH OF BANNER YEARS AND WE WOULD REPORT BACK AND SAY, I THINK WE NEED TO TRANSFER SOME MONEY OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND.
HOWEVER, I DON'T OBJECT TO THAT EXCLUSION.
>> IS THERE ANY OTHER CONVERSATION OR QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU. JUST TO CLARIFY, WE ARE NOT FORGIVING THIS LONG. IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT? GREAT. THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]
>> IS IT APPROPRIATE TO VOTE ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE NOW?
>> YOU CAN DO IT IF YOU'D LIKE. YEAH.
>> I DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION NUMBER.
[BACKGROUND] IT'S ON THE EXHIBIT LIST.
>> SEE WHAT YOUR CAUSE LOOK AT THEM ALL SCRAMBLE AND LOOK THROUGH THEIR BOOKS QUICKLY.
>> IT'S BECAUSE IT'S OVER 500 PAGES.
>> NO, IT'S FURTHER DOWN, I THINK.
>> WELL, BECAUSE I SEE IT ON PAGE 4 OF OUR SHORTENED AGENDA.
>> WHAT'S THE SOLUTION NUMBER? WHAT'S THE EXHIBIT? IT'S EXHIBIT 20.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
>> WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE EXISTING PARAGRAPH 4 WILL BE DELETED.
THE EXISTING PARAGRAPH 5 WILL BECOME PARAGRAPH 4 IN THAT POLICY.
>> THAT WOULD TAKE US BACK TO THE TRENCHING QUESTIONS.
EVERYBODY HAVE ALL THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED? ANY STATEMENTS ON THE TRENCHING ISSUE?
>> YES. I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS, PLEASE.
>> I HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY A LOT OF REALLY GREAT REASONS, THE SAME REASONS THAT I SUPPORT TRENCHING IN THE VILLAGE.
THE SAFETY, OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE DEATHS THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED OF PEOPLE BY TRAIN, UNFORTUNATELY.
QUALITY OF LIFE IS A BIG ONE, OBVIOUSLY.
THE TOXICITY, THAT WAS SOMETHING I HADN'T THOUGHT OF, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT BEING BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
IMPROVING THE BUSINESS CLIMATE IN THE VILLAGE, I THINK IS A LEGITIMATE, POSITIVE EFFECT.
AS MENTIONED, WHEN WE PUT SEED MONEY IN, IT'S LIKE WHAT MY MOM USED TO DO TO ME.
IF I WANTED A $50 PAIR OF JEANS, SHE WOULD TELL ME I'LL GIVE YOU 25 AND I'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE OTHER 25.
IT JUST SHOWS GOOD FAITH THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING MOVING FORWARD.
THEN THE NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUES, OBVIOUSLY BEING AT THE CORRIDOR THAT WE ARE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.
FINALLY, I THINK AS DR. PACKARD ALLUDED TO, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT, IT IS NOT JUST SPENDING MONEY.
IT'S COMING BACK TO US IF FOR SOME REASON WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL.
AS THE SANDAG REPRESENTATIVE, I WILL SAY THIS IS A FOCUS.
WE ARE FOCUSING ON THE RTP '25 RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE MADE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR CARLSBAD, BUT NOT JUST FOR CARLSBAD, FOR NORTH COUNTY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY.
I WILL DEFINITELY BE AN ADVOCATE, A STRONG VOICE OF REASON AND I THINK THIS WILL HELP US IN THAT ADVOCACY.
I WOULD HOPE MY COLLEAGUE ON NCTD WOULD SHARE THAT RESPONSIBILITY IN HER ROLE AND ADVOCATE FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL, AND I HAVE GOOD FAITH THAT SHE WILL.
FINALLY, CONTINUE CONVERSATION WITH OUR STATE AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES.
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AGAIN, MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THAT THIS SHOULD BE A PRIORITY PROJECT FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT ALL OF YOU CAME HERE AND SPOKE ABOUT SO ELOQUENTLY.I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT OPTION 1, 5.22 MILLION.
IT GIVES ME A LITTLE STOMACHACHE WHEN I SAY THAT NUMBER, BUT THIS IS A $500,000,000 PROJECT AND I WANT TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR ON THIS, CARLSBAD IS NOT PAYING $520 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE GRANT WORKING PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER FEDERAL STATE AND REGIONAL AGENCIES SUCH AS SANDAG. THANK YOU.
>> DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT YOUR MOTION?
>> WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO COMMENT, BUT I WILL BE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
>> BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE TO SECOND BEFORE WE MAKE COMMENTS.
THIS IS INCLUDED IN OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM THAT THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL APPROVED AS A PRIORITY FUNDING REQUEST FROM OUR REPRESENTATIVES.
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING AND ADVOCATING THIS YEAR WITH OUR CONGRESSMEN AND OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, TALKING ABOUT THIS AS A FUNDING PRIORITY FOR US.
I AM VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN PUT UP SOME SEED MONEY FOR SOME MATCHING DOLLARS.
IN ADDITION TO THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER MADE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE AND THE NEED FOR THIS IN THE VILLAGE AND FOR ECONOMIC REASONS, FOR HEALTH REASONS, FOR SAFETY REASONS.
THIS IS THE TIME WHEN WE'RE GETTING INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND A PRIORITY HAS BEEN ARTICULATED FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND FROM OUR FEDERAL CONGRESS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY RAILROADS.
SOMEBODY MENTIONED PALESTINE AND THE TOXIC DERAILMENTS OF THE RAILROADS THERE.
BUT WE HAVE OUR OWN STORY TO TELL ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] QUARTER BEING SO IMPORTANT.
IT'S NOT JUST WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DEL MAR IN SAN CLEMENTE WITH EROSION UNDERNEATH THE TRACKS.
THERE'S ALSO SAFETY IMPLICATIONS HERE.
I SUPPORT THIS AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO STAFF FOR COMING UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GET THE MATCHING FUNDS. THANKS.
>> ANYONE ELSE? MS. BHAT-PATEL.
>> YES. THANK YOU. I WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION NUMBER 2.
AGAIN, CONFIRMING AND KNOWING THAT WE WOULDN'T OBVIOUSLY BE SUBJECTED TO PAYING IT OUT UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I WOULD WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET UPDATES ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FORMALLY INCLUDED IN THE MOTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST UPDATES, TESTS, WHETHER IT'S A MEMO OR SOMETHING JUST WITH REGARDS TO HOW AND MAYBE THAT'S A CITY MANAGER DIRECTION.
I'LL LET YOU CHIME IN. I CAN SEE YOU LOOKING TO CHIME IN.
>> WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IT'S NOT AN IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND, BUT THIS WOULD BE AN IMPACT ON THE RESERVES.
>> YEAH. I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE, REGARDLESS, HELPFUL TO KNOW WHERE THE PROGRESS IS AT, AND I THINK FOR ME THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD NOT BE COMPLETELY ON THE HOOK FOR THE 500 MILLION OR WHATEVER THIS IS GOING TO COST.
THE CONCERNS THAT I GENERALLY HAVE HAD IN THE PAST ARE AROUND, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE FUNDS.
WHETHER IT'S THROUGH GRANTS, THROUGH OTHER AGENCIES, WHATEVER ELSE, WE MAY NEVER. I HOPE WE DO.
I THINK DEFINITELY HAVING THE ABILITY TO PUT THIS OUT THERE AND HOPEFULLY, THIS IS AN ACT OF FAITH AND OTHER AGENCIES WILL FOLLOW SUIT AND OF COURSE, THE GRANTS WILL COME THROUGH.
BUT RIGHT NOW, WHEN I HAD HEARD ABOUT IT WHEN I FIRST CAME ON COUNCIL, THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR ME WAS HOW DO WE ENSURE WE'LL GET ALL OF THE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ACTUALLY ACT ON THIS? I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE INVESTMENT PIECE.
ALL OF THE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE WHATEVER DECADES FROM NOW, ONCE THIS ACTUALLY GETS DONE.
BUT I THINK THAT WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF IS THAT WE ACTUALLY ADVOCATE APPROPRIATELY TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, TO ENSURE WE CAN ACTUALLY RECEIVE THAT FUNDING.
BECAUSE THIS ONUS SHOULDN'T JUST BE ON THE CITY, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COST-SHARING.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S PART OF THE RECORD AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR BACK ON PROGRESS.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MS. LUNA.
>> I THINK IT'S A GREAT STEP FORWARD.
I THINK IF YOU'RE BEARING SOME GIFTS AND I THINK JASON, THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY AT NCTD AND AT SANDAG THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME MONEY.
AND IT MIGHT GIVE US SOME LEGISLATIVE HAND-HOLDING HERE
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THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE.I HOPE SO. I HOPE NCTD AND SANDAG AND OUR FEDERAL AND STATE REPRESENTATIVES WOULD.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S A BIG RISK BECAUSE WE WOULD GET IT BACK.
WELL, ACTUALLY, IT NEVER EVEN LEAVES.
DOES IT ACTUALLY LEAVE OUR RESERVE? IT JUST SITS THERE UNTIL THEY ACT UPON IT.
>> WE WOULD ESTABLISH BASICALLY A SEPARATE FUND.
WE'D PLACE THOSE FUNDS INTO THAT ACCOUNT AND THEN ULTIMATELY, WE WOULD WORK TO TRY AND ACHIEVE THOSE MATCHING FUNDS.
THEN AT SUCH A TIME WHEN THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT PLACED ON THE TRANSFER OF THOSE FUNDS, WE WOULD DO THAT.
IN THE EVENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT, WE'D HOLD ONTO THE MONIES AND THEN DE-APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS.
>> WE PUT THE PRESSURE ON OUR LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE TO GET EVERYBODY TO DONATE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO US, RIGHT?
>> GET YOUR WORK CUT OUT FOR YOU.
>> CAN WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND? IN A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
THE NEXT IS, CAN WE VOTE ON THE ENTIRE AGENDA ITEM OR DO WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM ALL ONE AT A TIME? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH ANY OF THEM THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM OFF?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS, BUT I DO HAVE A MOTION.
>> DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION ON ONE OF THESE ITEMS OR THE WHOLE THING?
>> MAYOR THERE'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAD, WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TEAR IT UP FOR YOU, MA'AM.
>> GIVEN THE COMMUNITY'S INTERESTS IN COMMUNITY THEATER, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF AND I HAVE THIS WRITTEN SO I DON'T MESS IT UP.
FOR STAFF TO RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO FACILITATE COMMUNITY THEATER PROGRAMMING.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT A BIT AND MY ASK IS THAT YOU ALL RESEARCH WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD AGENCIES ARE DOING, EVALUATE EXISTING THEATERS IN CARLSBAD, IF ANY, PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, SUCH AS CARLSBAD RUNNING ITS OWN PROGRAM, CARLSBAD SUPPORTING EXISTING PROGRAMS THROUGH SPACE FUNDING AND STAFFING OR ANY OTHER THING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO BRING BACK.
THAT WOULD JUST BE MY SPECIFIC.
IT DOESN'T REALLY IMPACT THE BUDGET PER SE, BUT IT'S AN ASK THAT I THINK IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO.
THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
>> ANY DISCUSSION? MS. ACOSTA.
>> THANK YOU. I'M PLEASED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE ARTS AND THEATER AND OF ESPECIALLY ARTS EDUCATION AND PROGRAMMING FOR COMMUNITY THEATER.
I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS RELATED AT ALL SPECIFICALLY TO NEW VILLAGE ARTS OR WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A REQUEST JUST FOR STAFF TO DO MORE RESEARCH, BUT I'M WONDERING HOW THIS FITS IN WITH WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN.
>> SHALL I ANSWER? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER.
IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH NEW VILLAGE ARTS.
THIS IS A COMMUNITY-BASED THEATER PROGRAM.
CARLSBAD ACTUALLY HAS ONE FOR 30, MAYBE 40 YEARS NOW.
I'M JUST EXPLORING OPTIONS WITH THIS PARTICULAR IDEA IN MIND THAT WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THEATER, BUT REST ASSURED THAT IS NOT ANYTHING MODELED AFTER WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR AND WITH NVA IS JUST TO BRING BACK OPTIONS.
>> GREAT. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT WOULD COME BACK WITH THE STAFF REPORT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY DAUGHTER IS TAKEN COMMUNITY THEATER CLASS. SHE DID A CAMP.
THAT WAS CITY OF CARLSBAD CAMP WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT TO LOOK AT AND WE DO A LOT FOR THE ARTS.
OBVIOUSLY, WE SUPPORT THE ARTS IN A MAJOR WAY HERE IN CARLSBAD.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AND I SUPPORT THIS. THANKS.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SINCE THIS IS JUST BEING ASKED TO BRING BACK INFORMATION, I CAN SUPPORT IT AS WELL, SO PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW, WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEMS 1 THROUGH 16.
IS IT OKAY IF WE JUST MASS APPROVE ONE THROUGH 16?
>> YEAH. IF THERE'S NO ANTICIPATION THAT ANY OF THESE WOULD NEED SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS AND THE CLARIFICATION WOULD BE THAT THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION WOULD BE AS THEY'VE BEEN AMENDED BY THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, THE DISCUSSION OF VOTES THAT COUNCIL HAS HAD THIS EVENING.
>> PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A NINE MINUTE BREAK.
WE'LL MEET BACK HERE AT EIGHT O'CLOCK.
CONTINUING OUR COUNCIL MEETING,
[10. PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE NOMINATION – Adoption of a resolution directing staff to invite Carlsbad residents to apply for nomination to the County of San Diego’s Palomar Airport Advisory Committee and to place an item on the July 11, 2023, City Council meeting agenda to identify one applicant for nomination to the committee. (Staff contact: Jason Haber, City Manager’s Department)]
ITEM NUMBER 10. CITY MANAGER.>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE NOMINATION AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION IS OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR, MR. JASON HABER. JASON.
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING.
MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, JASON HABER, INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR.
THIS ITEM IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO INVITE CARLSBAD RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR NOMINATION TO THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO'S PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE JULY 11TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA TO IDENTIFY ONE APPLICANT FOR NOMINATION TO THE COMMITTEE.
THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS A SAN DIEGO COUNTY COMMITTEE THAT PROVIDES INPUT ON PLANNING AND OPERATIONS AT SAN DIEGO COUNTY'S MCCLELLAN PALOMAR AIRPORT.
THEY ADVISE THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTIES CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.
JUST TO READ BRIEFLY, THE DUTIES OF THE COMMITTEE INCLUDE TO REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ISSUES PERTAINING TO NOISE CONTROL AT PALOMAR AIRPORT.
TO REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING LAND USE WITHIN THE AIRPORT INFLUENCE AREA.
TO REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING ISSUES PERTAINING TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATIONS AT PALOMAR AIRPORT.
PROVIDE AN OPEN FORUM BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNTY ON MATTERS PERTAINING TO PALOMAR AIRPORT AND ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT MAY BE ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THE COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF NINE MEMBERS.
THOSE MEMBERS ARE NOMINATED BY THE FIFTH DISTRICT COUNTY SUPERVISOR, CURRENTLY SUPERVISOR DESMOND.
HIS NOMINATIONS ARE THEN RATIFIED AND THE APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE BY THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AS A BODY.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH COUNTY CODE, IT PROVIDES THAT THE CITIES OF CARLSBAD VISTA, SAN MARCOS, AND OCEAN SIDE, EACH HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COMMITTEE.
THE CITIES ARE INVITED TO IDENTIFY A RESIDENT FROM THEIR CITY AS A CANDIDATE FOR THE SUPERVISOR TO CONSIDER.
THE REMAINING FIVE MEMBERS SHALL BE FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO RESIDE WITHIN THE FIFTH SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICT.
THE CITY OF CARLSBAD SEAT ON THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR DUE TO THE RESIGNATION OF OUR PREVIOUS MEMBER WHO WAS THE INITIAL SEAT THAT WE APPOINTED TO THAT COMMITTEE.
WITH THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, THE PROPOSED NEXT STEPS ARE FOR THE CITY TO OPEN AN APPLICATION WINDOW.
WE'LL BE MODIFYING AN APPLICATION AND POSTING THAT ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE'LL HAVE THAT POSTED BY THIS THURSDAY, JUNE 15TH, AND LEAVE THAT OPEN THROUGH TO MONDAY JUNE 26TH.
WE WOULD DISTRIBUTE THE APPLICATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL THE FOLLOWING DAY FOR CONSIDERATION AND INVITE THE APPLICANTS TO REQUEST MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS IF THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS THEIR INTERESTS AND QUALIFICATIONS FOR SERVING.
THEN FINALLY, WE WOULD SCHEDULE FOR APPLICANTS SELECTION AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S JULY 11TH MEETING.
APPLICANTS WOULD BE INVITED TO ATTEND AND MAKE COMMENT DURING THAT MEETING AND JUST AS A NOTE, IDENTIFYING A CANDIDATE FOR NOMINATION WOULD REQUIRE A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
AGAIN, PROPOSED ACTION IS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET AND WITH THAT, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> VANESSA FORSYTH, FOLLOWED BY FRANK SUNG.
>> THANK YOU. VANESSA FORSYTH, I RESIDE IN DISTRICT 4.
AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION SO THAT WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION, PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE PALOMAR AIRPORT WHEN WE CONSIDER THAT IT IS A SAN DIEGO COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT ALSO AS IT IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS HERE BECAUSE IT IS A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE LEADED FUEL THAT IS CONTAMINATING OUR SOIL AND OUR AIR, THERE'S NO SAFE LEVELS OF LEAD.
IT WILL BE SOON THAT WE WILL HAVE NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT NEARBY.
AGAIN, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WHAT I WOULD ASK IS ACTUALLY THAT WE, AS A CITY, SAY THAT WE WANT THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS THE UNLEADED FUEL THAT SOLD IN STORES.
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I MEAN, THE LEADED FUEL THAT'S TOLD AND STORED THERE. THANK YOU.>> GOOD EVENING. FRANK SUNG, A 20-YEAR CARLSBAD RESIDENT ON THE HOMEOWNERS BOARD OF DIRECTORS MARINERS POINT 2 MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE AIRPORT.
I'VE BEEN ATTENDING SOME OF THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND WE NEED REPRESENTATION.
I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO ASKS TONIGHT.
ONE IS THAT YOU FOLLOW THE PROCESS FOR POLICY.
THE LAST CANDIDATE, KRAMER DID A GOOD JOB, HE GOT FRUSTRATED, HE QUIT.
HE TRIED VERY MUCH TO REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN HOMES THAT'S IMPACTED BY THE AIRPORT.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT HE RESIGNED, BUT YES, WE SHOULD BACKFILL HIM.
BY THE WAY, THE SAN MARCOS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS LIKE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THIS.
I'VE BEEN DRIVING TO SAN MARCOS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PACK MEETS.
THE SECOND ASK IS THAT THEY ONLY MEET, BUT EVERY TWO MONTHS THAT THEY ASK IS THAT WE ALLOW THEM TO MEET IN THIS CHAMBER BECAUSE THE AIRPORT IS IN CARLSBAD, THOSE OF US THAT ARE INTERESTED WOULD MUCH APPRECIATE STAYING IN CARLSBAD VERSUS GOING TO SAN MARCOS, BUT THERE ARE CITY COUNCIL FACILITIES, IT'S AMAZING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN THERE.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHATEVER POINT YOU GUYS HAVE TO FIX THINGS UP.
A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS, I BELIEVE AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS OUT-OF-SCHOOL BECAUSE I'VE SAID IT TO THE PACK.
MY NEIGHBORS AND I BELIEVE THAT THE AIRPORT IS POORLY OPERATED, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE FACT THAT THE VOLUNTARY NOISE ABATEMENT PROGRAM IS NOT BEING MANAGED WELL.
WE HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH WITH OTHER AIRPORTS THAT HAVE THE SAME LIMITATIONS AS WHAT WE HAVE.
YOU HAVE COMMUNITIES RIGHT AROUND IT THAT HAS GROWN OVER THE YEARS.
WE DON'T HAVE MANDATORY QUIET HOURS, WE DON'T HAVE RESTRICTED FLIGHT PATHS.
WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES, BUT THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER MUCH BETTER MONITORING OF DEVIATIONS IN TERMS OF FLIGHT PASS AND ALTITUDE AND TIME WILL OPERATION.
THEY HAVE PUT IN PLACE CARROT AND STICK TO INCENTIVIZE, TO ENCOURAGE EVEN THOUGH IT'S VOLUNTARY, BUT THEY'VE DONE A MUCH BETTER JOB.
I WOULD HOPE AND PRAY THAT THE CANDIDATE THAT YOU BRING FORTH IN THIS PROCESS WOULD IN FACT REPRESENT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE AROUND THE AIRPORT THAT ARE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.
THE EXISTING PACK, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT, WHETHER YOU HEARD IT OR NOT, IS A VERY EFFECTIVE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THE AIRPORT BUSINESSES AND AVIATION INTERESTS.
I BELIEVE ALL PARTIES NEEDS TO BE REPRESENTED, IT'S JUST VERY TILTED RIGHT NOW.
ONE BABY STEP WOULD BE TO HAVE A CARLSBAD REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THE AIRPORT AND THAT ARE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED TODAY.
THOSE ARE THE TWO ASK. GO AHEAD.
>> VICKI SILAGE, FOLLOWED BY SUZANNE HUME.
>> HELLO AGAIN. I'M VICKI SILAGE.
I'M A FOUNDING MEMBER AND CURRENT PRESIDENT OF CITIZENS 4 FRIENDLY AIRPORT OR C4FA AS WE ALL KNOW.
FIRST OF ALL, ON BEHALF OF C4FA, THANK YOU, MR. CHADWICK AND MR. HABER FOR PUTTING THIS PACK ISSUE ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA AND FOR RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CARLSBAD IN AN EXPEDIENT FASHION, C4FA ASKS THAT YOU DO SO AS WELL.
IT'S UNFATHOMABLE TO US THAT CARLSBAD, THE HOST CITY OF PALOMAR AIRPORT, DOES NOT HAVE A CARLSBAD REPRESENTATIVE ON THE ONLY PUBLIC COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED TO BE THE COMMITTEE METHOD OF INPUT TO ALL THINGS PALOMAR AIRPORT.
NOW I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT THE PACK IS NOT OPERATING IN THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED AND HASN'T BEEN FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
TODAY'S PACK IS NOTHING MORE THAN ANOTHER LOBBYING GROUP FOR THE AVIATION INDUSTRY AND AIRPORT OPERATORS.
MULTIPLE PACK MEMBERS HAVE BUSINESSES ON THE AIRPORT PREMISES AND THEY BENEFIT FINANCIALLY FROM THE AIRPORT.
SEVERAL HAVE SERVED LONG PASTOR, EIGHT-YEAR TERM LIMIT.
THE PACK NEEDS TO BE REFORMED AND GET BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED, TO BE THE COMMUNITY'S VEHICLE INTO THE AIRPORT PLANNING AND OPERATIONS ARM OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
THE PACK NEEDS TO GIVE A POWERFUL VOICE TO THE RESIDENTS, ALL OF US REGULAR FOLKS, THE HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS, PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, SINGLE FOLKS, AND COUPLES, CHILDREN, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE.
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AND IT MUST CHANGE.CARLSBAD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BEGIN THAT CHANGE WITH THIS APPOINTMENT.
IN A CITY WHERE QUALITY OF LIFE, CLEAN AIR AND WATER, PROTECTING OUR OPEN SPACE, PROTECTING OUR TRAILS M OUR BEACHES ARE AT THE TOP OF WHAT OUR RESIDENTS LOVE ABOUT CARLSBAD AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US AND EVERY SINGLE CITY SURVEY, THERE'S NOT A SINGLE ENVIRONMENTALIST ON THE PACK, GO FIGURE THAT.
CARLSBAD SHOULD LEAD THE PACK REFORMATION BY EXAMPLE.
PLEASE APPOINT A PACK REPRESENTATIVE TO SPEAK FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND ENVIRONMENT, AND NOT SOMEONE TO BE JUST YET ANOTHER TALKING HEAD FOR THE AVIATION INDUSTRY OR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
THE CARLSBAD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS THE CARLSBAD BUSINESS COMMUNITY WELL-COVERED AND GIVE ENOUGH INPUT, IT'S OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT, THE REGULAR FOLK.
PLEASE APPOINT A PACK REPRESENTATIVE TO REPRESENT US AND MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT AS SOON AS IT'S FEASIBLY POSSIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS SUZANNE HUME, I'M THE EDUCATIONAL DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER OF CLEANING4KIDS.ORG.
ABSOLUTELY, CARLSBAD NEEDS REPRESENTATION.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY VITAL FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR FAMILIES.
AS YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE SAID, THERE'S NO SAFE LEVEL OF LEAD.
LEAD PERMANENTLY DAMAGES CHILDREN'S BRAINS AND IS THE NUMBER 1 REASON FOR FATAL HEART ATTACKS IN THE US.
IT'S A SAVINGS BECAUSE LEAD NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE ECONOMY AND PEOPLE'S WALLETS; INCREASED HEALTH CARE COSTS, DECREASED PRODUCTIVITY, DECREASED IQ, DECREASED READING AND MATH SCORES.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE, CLEANING4KIDS.ORG TEAM 5, GET THE LEAD OUT.
PLEASE WATCH THE EIGHT-MINUTE VIDEO BY DR. BRUCE LAMPFIR, WHO CALLS LEAD THE CRIME OF THE CENTURY.
ABSOLUTELY, PLEASE DIRECT STAFF TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO TO STOP THE SALE OF LEADED AVIATION FUEL.
UNLEADED FUEL IS AVAILABLE AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP WITH TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, ETC, BUT IT'S NOT THAT HARD. IT'S AVAILABLE.
SANTA CLARA DID IT, MANY. JUST PLEASE DO THAT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND REPRESENT CARLSBAD, PROTECT CHILDREN, FAMILIES, ALL OF US, WILDLIFE, WATER, AIR, ALL OF THAT.
>> JOHN BOTOFF, CLIFFORD KAISER.
>> GOOD EVENING, JOHN BOTOFF, CLEANING4KIDS.ORG.
I JUST WANT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION THAT PEOPLE OF CARL WOULD ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BE REPRESENTED ON THE BOARD AND GIVE FEEDBACK TO THE COUNTY ABOUT THIS AIRPORT.
EVERYONE WHO LIVES NEAR THIS AIRPORT OR WORKS AROUND THE AIRPORT IS EXPOSED TO NOISE POLLUTION, AIR POLLUTION, AND OBVIOUSLY THE LEAD FROM THE AVIATION FUEL AS WELL.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT CARLSBAD HAS REPRESENTATION AND IT'S THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD WHO ARE BEING DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS, NOT JUST BUSINESSES. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR.
MY NAME IS CLIFF KAISER, I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE DOESN'T TECHNICALLY EXIST RIGHT NOW SINCE THE ABSENCE OF DISTRICT 4 SUPERVISOR AND THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAD NOT MADE A DECISION TO REAPPOINT ANYBODY TO THAT COMMITTEE.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO MEET ON A BI-MONTHLY BASIS AT THE SAN MARCOS COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND TRIED TO CONTINUE BUSINESS AS USUAL.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE TWO CURRENT AND VERY EXPERIENCED CARLSBAD RESIDENTS ON THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE PREVIOUS ONE MET WITH ANY OF YOU PERIODICALLY TO DISCUSS THE CONCERNS OF THE COUNCIL, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT OR I'LL ASK THEM TO REACH OUT TO YOU TO SAY, YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY CARLSBAD RESIDENTS AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY TO REPRESENT CARLSBAD, WHY DON'T YOU GO TALK TO THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REITERATE THAT, AS THE STAFF SAID, WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS.
WE LISTEN TO REPORT FROM STAFF ON AIRPORT PERFORMANCE AND NOISE CONCERNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND PROPERTY USE AND THEN WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
MAYBE OUT OF A TOTAL OF SIX MEETINGS A YEAR,
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WE MIGHT MAKE 4, 5 RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE AIRPORT.I DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE THESE CHANGES, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PROBABLY WON'T MAKE A VOTE ON THIS UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO YOU HAVE AN AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE, MAYBE GIVE YOURSELF A LITTLE BIT MORE BREATHING ROOM TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THANK YOU.
>> IS THAT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SPEAKERS?
>> THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. MS. BHAT-PATEL.
>> YES. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TO THE SPEAKERS AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US AS THE CITY, OF COURSE, BEING THE HOST CITY OF THIS AIRPORT AND THE IMPACTS THAT I KNOW.
I'VE RECEIVED NUMEROUS EMAILS FROM THE TIME I'VE BEEN SWORN IN AND OF COURSE, CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE.
NUMBER 1, I KNOW THAT SECTION 731 OF THAT ADMINISTRATIVE CODE THAT YOU MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT, AND I KNOW THIS WAS CREATED BEFORE OUR DISTRICTS WERE REDISTRICTED.
BUT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT TALKS ABOUT JUST THE FIFTH SUPER VICTORIAL DISTRICT NOMINATING FOLKS AND I KNOW OBVIOUSLY THIS DOESN'T IMPACT WHAT WE PUT FORWARD.
BUT JUST CURIOUS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF ENSURING THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVE ALSO HAS A SAY, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THEY AT LEAST ARE COPIED ON ANY CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE END UP PROVIDING?
>> YES, OF COURSE, WE CAN COPY THE DISTRICT 3 SUPERVISOR ON ANY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MAY FORWARD TO THE FIFTH DISTRICT SUPERVISOR.
>> GREAT. I AM PRETTY SURE WE HAD AN ALTERNATE FOR THIS.
WE HAD AN ALTERNATE MEMBER THAT WE HAD CHOSEN?
>> WHEN THE COUNCIL PASSED ITS FIRST RESOLUTION IDENTIFYING THE PREFERRED CANDIDATE, THE COUNCIL MADE THE DECISION TO IDENTIFY AN ALTERNATE AS WELL.
THAT IS NOT PART OF THE COUNTY'S OFFICIAL PROCESS.
THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR IDENTIFYING AN ALTERNATE, AND HOWEVER, IF THAT WAS THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE YOU COULD IDENTIFY AN ALTERNATE AND WE CAN FORWARD THAT AS WELL.
>> OKAY. NO, THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS FOR FUTURE PURPOSES, IF WE DO HAVE AN ALTERNATE, HOW DO WE UTILIZE THAT IN THE FUTURE? I KNOW AT THIS TIME IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IT WASN'T CODIFIED OR ANYTHING TO THAT REGARD.
IT WAS JUST MORE OF A CITY BASED DECISION, BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO MAYBE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY BEEN INVOLVED, STEP IN IF IF THERE IS A VACANCY THAT HAPPENS AND THEN MAYBE FIGURE OUT.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHO THE NEXT ALTERNATE WOULD BE.
BUT JUST BRAINSTORMING OUT LOUD AND CURIOUS WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
I GUESS THE ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION, I THINK WAS VIEWED AS A BACKUP CANDIDATE IF THE PRIMARY CANDIDATE WAS NOT APPROVED AND NOMINATED AND APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE, THAT WAS PERHAPS A SECOND CHOICE RECOMMENDATION.
NOT NECESSARILY AN INDIVIDUAL THAT SERVES IN AN ALTERNATE CAPACITY ON THE COMMITTEE.
THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
WHEN WE DO CHOOSE A REPRESENTATIVE, AND I KNOW I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I'M JUST ASKING, ARE WE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OURSELVES AND IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MAY BE HEARING BECAUSE OF COURSE, THEY ARE REPRESENTATIVE AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL EMAIL THAT THEY COULD GIVE OUT, BUT ANY OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVE, WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THAT REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL FROM THE RESIDENTS?
>> OKAY. AND THEN THEY CAN HOPEFULLY REPRESENT THAT AT THE MEETINGS.
>> HOWEVER, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO [OVERLAPPING] KNOW THAT OR VOTE CONSISTENTLY WITH THAT FEEDBACK FROM [OVERLAPPING].
>> OKAY. THE OTHER THING I KNOW THAT'S COME UP, AND CITY ATTORNEY, YOU CAN STOP ME IF I'M UNABLE TO CHAT ABOUT IT TOO MUCH, BUT JUST CURIOUS, I KNOW THE PIECE AROUND WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THIS PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL IS USUALLY REPRESENTING IS TOPICS AROUND NOISE CONTROL, LAND USE DEVELOPMENT, OPEN FORUM, AND ANY OTHER ITEMS, AND WHEN I HEAR ANY OTHER ITEMS ARE LAND USE, I KNOW THAT UNLEADED FUEL HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES, WHETHER IT'S TONIGHT OR OTHER TIMES.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD FALL UNDER ANY OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS AND WE COULD AT SOME POINT THEN EITHER DELEGATE AUTHORITY
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TO THAT REPRESENTATIVE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT, OR AT THE VERY LEAST SEND A LETTER AT SOME POINT TO THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IN LINE WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM.THAT WAS A SECOND QUESTION OR FOLLOW-UP QUESTION THAT I HAD.
>> SURE. TO CLARIFY THE ANY OTHER ITEMS WOULD BE TECHNICALLY ANY OTHER ITEMS ASSIGNED BY THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER.
THE CITY HAS DONE SOME RESEARCH INTO THE LEADED OUT-GAS ISSUE.
I BELIEVE WE PROVIDED THE COUNCIL WITH THE COUNCIL MEMO ON THAT AND WE HAVE SHARED SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS WITH COUNTY STAFF.
THE COUNCIL COULD DIRECT STAFF TO DRAFT A LETTER AND SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WHO COULD THEN DELEGATE THAT AS ANOTHER ISSUE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER.
BUT AT THIS POINT, WE HAVEN'T ELEVATED THAT ISSUE TO THAT POINT.
THEN I KNOW THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, THE PARK CURRENTLY IS NOT MEETING IF IT DOESN'T EXIST.
BECAUSE I HEARD THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST, BUT THEY'VE BEEN MEETING.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, ARE THERE ANY SCHEDULED MEETINGS COMING UP IF IT DOESN'T EXIST AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A CONVERSATION WITH THE SUPERVISORS AROUND THIS JUST YET?
>> THE PARK IS CONTINUING TO MEET IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR REGULAR SCHEDULE THAT THEY SET AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
I THINK COUNTY STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE ON WHETHER THEY EXIST OR NOT IS THAT THE CURRENTLY SEATED COMMITTEE CONTINUES TO SERVE IN THEIR ROLES UNTIL THEY ARE REPLACED WITH NEW APPOINTEES.
THE WAY THAT THE COUNTY CODE IS WRITTEN, THE APPOINTEES TO THE PARK SERVE TERMS THAT RUN CONCURRENT WITH THE D5 SUPERVISOR.
WITH THE RECENT RE-ELECTION, I THINK THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OR AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE WOULD BE A NEED FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO THOSE COMMITTEES.
THOSE SEATS DON'T NECESSARILY RE-UP WITH THE RE-ELECTION OF THE SUPERVISOR.
THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A PROCEDURAL STEP AT LEAST TO REAPPOINT THOSE AND RESEAT THOSE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
HOWEVER, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNTY STAFF, THE EXPECTATION AND THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CURRENTLY SEATED COMMITTEE CONTINUES TO SERVE AS THE PARK.
>> THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR TERM LIMITS.
DO WE HAPPEN TO HAVE THE TERM? YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHAT'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY FACTOR ON THAT?
>> I DON'T HAVE THAT AND I'M NOT AWARE OF HOW LONG INDIVIDUALS ON THE PARK HAVE SERVED IN THEIR ROLES.
BEING THAT IT IS A COUNTY COMMITTEE, ACCOUNTABILITY WOULD REST WITH [OVERLAPPING]
>> WITH THE COUNTY. GREAT. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. ACOSTA.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE QUESTION AROUND THIS FIFTH SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICT REPRESENTING BEING ABLE TO APPOINT THE MEMBERS, BECAUSE THAT WAS DISTRICTED IN A WAY THAT IT NO LONGER COVERS THAT PHYSICAL AIRPORT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS PLANNED TO BE CHANGED, OR THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS YET TO AGENDA AS MAKE A DECISION OR HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> THE COUNTY CODE EXPRESSLY AND EXPLICITLY SAYS THAT THE APPOINTMENTS ARE NOMINATED BY THE FIFTH DISTRICT SUPERVISOR WHO PREVIOUS TO THE REDISTRICTING DID REPRESENT THIS AREA ENTIRELY, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE CITIES THAT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT INDIVIDUALS TO THE COMMITTEE OR NOMINATE FOLKS TO BE NOMINATED TO THE COMMITTEE.
WITH THE REDISTRICTING, THEY HAVE BEEN PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BETWEEN THE DISTRICT 3 SUPERVISOR AND THE DISTRICT 5 SUPERVISOR ABOUT WHAT SOME REASONABLE CHANGES TO THE COUNTY CODE MIGHT BE.
HOWEVER AS WAS REFERENCED BEFORE WITH THE EXIT OF THE DISTRICT 4 SUPERVISOR, OPPORTUNITIES AND REALITIES AROUND PASSING NEW POLICIES THAT WOULD GOVERN THIS HAVE BECOME MORE COMPLICATED AND SO THE TIMING FOR SEEING CHANGES TO THAT MAY NOT OCCUR UNTIL THE DISTRICT 4 SUPERVISOR IS SEATED.
THAT WOULD BE THE EXPECTATION. THERE ARE SEVERAL CHANGES THAT MAY BE PROPOSED AS PART OF THAT, INCLUDING HOW MANY SEATS MIGHT BE NOMINATED BY THE DISTRICT 3 SUPERVISOR, HOW MANY MIGHT BE CONTINUED TO BE NOMINATED BY THE DISTRICT 5 SUPERVISOR AMONG OTHER THINGS.
>> WITH THAT DISCUSSION AND THAT CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT WE EXPECT TO HAPPEN, DO WE NEED TO SEND A LETTER AND URGE THEM TO TAKE THIS UP? I KNOW IT'S WEIRD TIMING.
>> WE'VE BEEN IN ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH SUPERVISORS' OFFICES SINCE WE BECAME AWARE OF THE VACANCY IN THE CARLSBAD SEAT.
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>> THEY'VE ASSURED US THAT THEY CONTINUE TO ADVANCE AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MOVING THAT POLICY CHANGE FORWARD.
>> GREAT. I HOPE THAT DOES HAPPEN.
THEN I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE APPLICATION IN HERE.
IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY STATE WHAT APPLICATION WILL BE USED, BUT WE'RE USING OUR OWN CITY APPLICATION. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. IT'LL BE MODIFIED FROM THE TYPICAL APPLICATION THAT WE USE FOR BOARD AND COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE VACANCIES.
WE'LL BE TAILORING THAT SPECIFICALLY TO THIS PURPOSE, INCLUDING A SEPARATE LINK TO THAT JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THIS PROCESS.
>> GREAT. LAST QUESTION, IS THERE VALUE TO SELECTING A SECOND CANDIDATE? I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT IS HERE IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WAS EVEN CONTEMPLATED.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE AS A BACKUP.
>> THERE COULD BE VALUE IN THE EVENT THAT THE FIRST CHOICE IS NOT AMENABLE TO THE DISTRICT 5 SUPERVISOR.
IT'S ULTIMATELY WE FORWARD A NAME FOR HIS CONSIDERATION.
IN THE LAST GO AROUND, HE INTERVIEWED THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE HAD RECOMMENDED.
IF IT HAD BEEN THE CASE THAT HE WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF HIS NOMINATION, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VALUABLE.
THAT I SUPPOSE TO HAVE THE ALTERNATE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND THAT COULD COME INTO PLAY THIS ROUND AS WELL.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER.
THAT WOULD MAKE THE REQUESTS WHEN YOU MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE CONSIDER THE IDEA OF ALTERNATE.
WHETHER THE ALTERNATE IS A TRUE ALTERNATE THAT WOULD GO TO THE MEETINGS AND LISTEN IN SUB OR WHETHER IT WOULD JUST BE SOMEBODY TO FALL BACK ON IF OUR PRIMARY ONLY LAST TWO MONTHS AND DECIDES IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR, BUT I'M GOING TO ALSO LOOK TO SEE THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY CHATTING, SO I WILL LOOK TO THEM REALLY QUICKLY.
>> I'M LOOKING AT IT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY ISSUE ABOUT IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION OF A PRIMARY AND THEN AS WELL AS AN ALTERNATE.
I THINK COUNCIL HAS THAT AUTHORITY TO DO SO.
I DON T KNOW THAT THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AGAIN, WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE TO DO WITH IT, IT'S UP TO THEM.
>> GREAT. I WOULD SAY I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THAT AMENDMENT AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD MAYBE I'LL DO THAT SEPARATELY [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU CAN CONTINUE. [LAUGHTER] YOU MADE THE MOTION I SECOND THE MOTION AS IS AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE QUESTIONS.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT I HAD MENTIONED WHICH WAS MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE SEND A LETTER RECOMMENDING I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO THAT TODAY OR IF WE'D RATHER DO THAT ON JULY 11TH.
BUT WHEN WE RECOMMEND OUR REPRESENTATIVE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT 3 IS ALSO COPIED ON THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE A FORMAL MOTION OR IF WE CAN JUST ALLOW FOR YOU TO SEND THAT TO THEM.
>> I THINK WE CAN JUST TAKE THAT AS [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANKS, JASON.
THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR AGENDA.
ANY CLOSING STATEMENTS, MS. LUNA? MS. BURKHOLDER?
[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
>> I'M SORRY. IT'S LATE, BUT I DO WANT TO REPORT OUT ON THE CARE COURT MEETING THAT I HAD WITH THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, MAURICE LYLES, CARE COURT IS GOING TO BE ASKING FOR PUBLIC INPUT AND COMMUNITY ROUNDTABLES.
EIGHT COUNTIES ARE PILOTING THIS PROGRAM.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT USED TO BE A CONSERVATORSHIP PROGRAM.
IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND OR ALCOHOL OR DRUG PROBLEMS, THEN WE HAVE POTENTIAL WAYS TO GET THEM HELPED.1.5 BILLION TO INCREASE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH WORKFORCE, 1.5 BILLION TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH BRIDGE HOUSING.
FORTY MILLION TO ACTUALLY CREATE THE JUDICIAL BRANCH TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM, 37 MILLION IN ONGOING FUNDING TO CONDUCT THE CARE COURT.
THE PROGRAM ITSELF IS MADE BY REFERRALS FROM FAMILY, THERAPISTS, FIRST RESPONDERS, AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS.
THE FRAMEWORK IS FOR WITHIN THE FIRST 90 DAYS YOU GET A DIAGNOSIS.
THERE'S LEGAL COUNSEL PROVIDED AND THEIR CARE TEAMS. HOPEFULLY, THEY WILL BE INCLUDING MEDICATION MANAGEMENT ON THOSE CARE TEAMS AND A SERVICE NAVIGATOR MODEL WITH THE IDEAL SITUATION BEING TO STABILIZE IN ONE YEAR, ALTHOUGH THE PROGRAM WILL LAST FOR TWO YEARS.
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MY ASK WAS, OF COURSE, TO HAVE A CARE CORE ESTABLISHED IN THE VISTA COURTHOUSE FOR OUR POPULATION TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS GREAT STEP THAT WE'RE TAKING.THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO MEET WITH OUR COUNTY SUPERVISOR TO PARTNER WITH THEM IN THE ROLL-OUT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE IN HOPEFULLY OCTOBER.
THIS IS A REAL STEP IN THE POSITIVE DIRECTION.
FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN TO STAFF FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
I HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WENT THERE AND I THINK IT WAS ADDED VALUE TO THE PROCESS.
>> THANK YOU. THEY ONLY ADDED COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT THIS MORNING WE HAD THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE RIGHT HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBER, AND WE MADE SURE TO SUPPORT A PACKAGE OF FENTANYL BILLS THAT ADDRESSED THE FENTANYL CRISIS THAT WE'RE HAVING IN THIS COUNTRY WITH PEOPLE DYING REGULARLY FROM FEDS, FROM OVERDOSES.
THAT WAS AN ADDITION THAT WE MADE SURE THAT WE INCLUDED WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE.
BUT FEEL FREE TO CHECK OUT THE VIDEO OR ASK ME QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME, I'VE OFFICE HOURS EVERY THURSDAY. THANK YOU.
I KNOW TOMORROW'S FLAG DAY, SO I SALUTE TO OUR AMERICAN FLAG.
THEN, OF COURSE, FATHER'S DAY, I JUST WANT TO WISH ALL THE DADS OUT THERE HAPPY FATHER'S DAY SINCE I DID THAT FOR MOTHER'S DAY.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE INCLUDED AND THEN JUNETEENTH, I KNOW WE HAD THE PROCLAMATION IS ALSO ON MONDAY, SO JUST WISHING THOSE THAT CELEBRATE A HAPPY JUNETEENTH.
>> I GOT TO SPEAK AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE FOR THE HIV LANES ON THE I5 AND I DID MAKE IT A POINT TO BRING UP THAT WE ARE PATIENTLY WAITING FOR OUR ICE 578 INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS.
I HOPE THEY TOOK IT AS COMICAL. CITY MANAGER?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVING THE BUDGET.
BUT THEN I ALSO WANT TO REALLY DO A SINCERE THANKS TO OUR ENTIRE BUDGET TEAM, BUT THEN ALSO ALL THE ANALYSTS AS WELL AS EVERY STAFF MEMBER WHO PARTICIPATED IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE BUDGET.
AS YOU SAW, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS.
WE REALLY START IN EARNEST IN DECEMBER, AND IT TAKES US A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.
AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SINCERELY THANK OUR ENTIRE TEAM LED BY THE SPECTACULAR TALENTS OF LAURA AND OF COURSE, ZACH WHO HAS BEEN JUST A BRILLIANT FINE FOR OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION. THAT'S IT.
>> WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.