Jul 11, 2023 City Council Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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NIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE TAKE ROLL.

FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

[ANNOUNCEMENT OF CONCURRENT MEETINGS]

THANK YOU. AND NEXT WILL BE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

PLEASE RISE. I'LL LEAD THE PLEDGE.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR FLAG.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

REGULAR MINUTES HELD MAY 23RD OF 23.

SPECIAL MEETING HELD JUNE 1ST OF 23.

SPECIAL MEETING HELD JUNE 6TH OF 23 AND REGULAR MEETING HELD JUNE 6TH OF 23.

MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS RECITED BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT IS PRESENTATIONS.

[PRESENTATIONS]

SO WHEREAS THE CARLSBAD PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROMOTES HEALTH AND WELLNESS WHILE BUILDING A CULTURE THAT EMBRACES CHANGE AND CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.

AND. WHEREAS, THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IS A STEWARD OF MORE THAN 1000 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE LANDS, 51 MILES OF OPEN SPACE TRAILS, LAGOON ACCESSES AND CITY BEACHES.

INTEGRAL TO PROVIDING CONNECTIVITY TO THE OUTDOORS.

AND I CHALLENGE ALL MOST OF YOU IN THIS ROOM.

I DID PULL THE TRAILS MAP OUT ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, AND I CAN PROUDLY SAY I COMPLETED ALL OF THE PARKS AND REC TRAILS. WHEREAS THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT OVERSEES THE MAINTENANCE OF AN 18 HOLE CHAMPIONSHIP GOLF COURSE, 14,000 STREET TREES, 68 ACRES OF MEDIANS, NINE ACRES OF PARKWAYS AND STREETSCAPES, AND 58 ACRES OF FACILITY LANDSCAPES.

AND. WHEREAS, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT OFFERS A VARIETY OF SPORTS, ART AND SCIENCE CLASSES, CAMPS, PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, APPEALING TO A WIDE RANGE OF AGES, INTERESTS AND ABILITIES.

AND WHEREAS, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROVIDES OVER 35,000 MEALS ANNUALLY VIA DINE IN OR DELIVERY TO CARLSBAD SENIORS 60 PLUS AS PART OF THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SENIOR NUTRITION PROGRAM.

AND I KNOW SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THAT.

NOW, THEREFORE, I.

COUNCIL MEMBER CAROLYN LUNA, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY 2023 AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. AND AND I INVITE CHAIR BOB WINSTON TO COME AND SAY A FEW WORDS. MAYOR BLACKBURN MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'M ROBERT WINSTON AND I'M THE CURRENT CHAIR OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.

AND BEFORE I THANK YOU AND RECEIVE YOUR PROCLAMATION, I DO WANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE THE SERVICE AND THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF MY PREDECESSOR, WHO IS MICHAEL LUNA, WHO JUST HAPPENS TO BE COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA'S SON.

AND HE SERVED, I THINK, FOR SEVEN YEARS AND DID A FANTASTIC JOB.

AND WE DO MISS HIM. THANK YOU FOR PROCLAIMING JULY PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

YOUR PROCLAMATION IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE SUPPORT FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT THIS CITY COUNCIL AND YOUR PREDECESSORS HAVE SHOWN OVER THE YEARS.

YOUR SUPPORT IS WELL PLACED AND IT'S APPRECIATED.

THE DEPARTMENT'S RELENTLESS PURSUIT OF EXCELLENCE HAS CREATED ONE OF THE FINEST PORTFOLIOS OF PARKS, OPEN SPACES, TRAILS AND RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS IN ALL OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

THE EXISTING PARKS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND THOSE ON THE DRAWING BOARDS WILL BE FIRST CLASS.

THE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS OF CARLSBAD ARE NOTHING SHORT OF AMAZING. WITH HUNDREDS OF CAMPS, SPORT LEAGUES, SPECIAL EVENTS AND CLASSES AVAILABLE.

THE DEMAND FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES FAR EXCEED THE SUPPLY.

WE'RE PROUD OF THE PROGRAM TO PROVIDE MEALS AND SERVICES TO OUR SENIORS.

OUR SENIORS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LOW OR NO COST LUNCHES AND MAINTAIN SOCIAL CONNECTIONS

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THANKS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, OUR RESIDENTS ENJOY AN INCREASED LEVEL OF PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH.

IT HELPS CARLSBAD ATTRACT VISITORS, NEW BUSINESSES AND NEW RESIDENTS, AND THAT HAS A DIRECT ECONOMIC BENEFIT.

NONE OF THIS CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT THE LEADERSHIP OF DIRECTOR LANCASTER AND HIS TEAM AND THE GREAT WORK OF EVERY EMPLOYEE IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

LASTLY, I WANT TO GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL THE VOLUNTEERS THAT GIVE THEIR TIME SELFLESSLY TO THE RESIDENTS OF OUR GREAT CITY.

ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE IN CARLSBAD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROCLAMATION.

I INVITE BOB, JOIN US AT THE FRONT.

WE'LL DO A GROUP PICTURE.

LET'S DO THAT. LET'S DO THAT NOW.

BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES WILL JUST BE PRESENTATIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HERE? I WAS JUST LOOKING TO SEE AND I ACTUALLY ANY OTHER PARKS AND REC OR SENIOR COMMISSIONERS IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE JOIN US.

NEXT IS A PRESENTATION BY THE DEPUTY LIBRARY DIRECTOR, SHEILA CROSBY, AND I INVITE SHEILA TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M HERE TODAY TO ACCEPT A DONATION FROM THE CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY.

WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR OUR SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS AND THE FRIENDS OF THE CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY ARE GENEROUSLY DONATING IN DIRECT SUPPORT OF LIBRARY MATERIALS AND PROGRAMS FOR THIS NEW FISCAL YEAR.

THE CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY IS A NON PROFIT COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATION FOUNDED IN 1957 WITH THE MISSION TO SUPPORT CARLSBAD CITY LIBRARY PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES.

THE FRIENDS RAISE FUNDS THROUGH THE SALE OF BOOKS AT FRIENDS BOOKSTORES IN BOTH THE DOVE AND COLE LIBRARIES.

THIS DONATION WILL PROVIDE SUPPLIES FOR CHILDREN'S TEENS AND ADULT PROGRAMS, REIMBURSEMENT FOR PERFORMERS, MATERIALS FOR THE COLLECTION AND SUPPORT OF THE CARLSBAD READS TOGETHER AUTHOR TALK.

THESE FUNDS ALSO PROVIDE FOR CLASSES AND SUPPLIES IN OUR EXPLORATION HUB, WHICH IS OUR MAKERSPACE AND MEMORY LAB.

HERE WITH ME TODAY IS THE BOOK SALES CHAIR AND DOVE BOOKSTORE MANAGER.

TAFFY CANNON.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. MR. MAYOR, THIS IS ONE OF MY VERY FAVORITE THINGS TO DO.

I LOVE TO COME AND OFFER YOU MONEY AND HAVE YOU SAY YES.

THE FRIENDS AS SHEILA SAID, OPERATE TWO BOOKSTORES.

WE SELL BOOKS AT THE COLE LIBRARY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 10 TO 4 AT THE DOVE LIBRARY, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 10 TO 4 WITH AN EXTRA THREE HOURS ON MONDAY NIGHT.

WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS THAT WE SUPPORT, WHICH IS THE SUMMER READING ADVENTURE NEU, WHICH USED TO BE JUST FOR CHILDREN, BUT IT'S BEEN EXPANDED NOW. SO IT GOES FROM BABIES ALL THE WAY UP TO PEOPLE WHO ARE EVEN OLDER THAN I AM.

WE ARE ALSO VERY MUCH IN NEED OF DONATIONS RIGHT NOW.

SO ANYBODY WHO'S HERE OR WATCHING AT HOME, IF YOU'VE GOT SOME EXTRA BOOKS THAT YOU WOULD

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YOU CAN BRING THEM TO ANY OF THE LIBRARIES OR THE SENIOR CENTER AND WE WILL GET THEM ON OUR SALES SHELVES RIGHT AWAY.

THANK YOU ALL. NEXT, I INVITE RICHARD.

I'M SORRY. CULTURAL ARTS MANAGER RICHARD SCHULTZ.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

TONIGHT, WE ACCEPT A $35,000 DONATION FROM A PASSIONATE GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS WHOSE MISSION IS TO SUPPORT THE CULTURAL ARTS OFFICE.

WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, THE ARTS EXIST WITH THREE COMPONENTS THE ARTISTS, THE AUDIENCE AND WHAT I OFTEN REFER TO AS THE ANGELS WHO PROVIDE THE FUNDING.

THIS GROUP QUALIFIES AS ANGELS.

THE CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS HAVE SUPPORTED AND BELIEVED THAT THE ARTS ARE BEYOND A DOUBT ESSENTIAL TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE DEFINED BY DIVERSITY AND CREATIVITY. AND THEY'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1987.

THAT'S 36 YEARS AND MULTIPLE GENERATIONS OF VOLUNTEERS WHO DEVOTED TIME, ENERGY AND WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. MONEY TO SUPPORT THE TGIF CONCERTS IN THE PARK, ARTS EDUCATION PROGRAMS, FRONT ROW SATURDAY PERFORMANCES AND EXHIBITS IN THE CANNON GALLERY.

I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT AT MANY OF OUR CITY EVENTS, I OFTEN DESCRIBE THE CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS AS THE VERY BEST FRIENDS OF THE ARTS.

I CAN'T THINK OF A MORE ACCURATE OR HEARTFELT DESCRIPTION FOR THIS GROUP.

TONIGHT, WE'RE JOINED BY SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THEIR BOARD, AS WELL AS AMANDA ECKHOFF, WHO WILL SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS.

SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING THIS GENEROUS GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS WHO, ALONG WITH THE CULTURAL ARTS STAFF, WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE THAT THE ARTS SHOULD BE A PART OF EVERY DAY AND EVERYWHERE IN CARLSBAD.

HERE'S MISS ECKHOFF.

HELLO, ESTEEMED BOARD.

THANK YOU, RICHARD. I'M AMANDA ECKHOFF AT 6745 TEA TREE STREET.

WELL TRAINED AND LIKE TAFFY, THIS IS ALSO ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS TO DO IS TO GIVE YOU GUYS MONEY. IT'S FANTASTIC.

I'M HERE ALONG WITH FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS BRENDA BECKETT, LIZ LICHTENBERGER, JOANNE HACKETT, AARON ALTER, DONNA BAYER AND ROSALIND SIMMONS.

CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS, AS RICHARD SAID, WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1987 TO SUPPORT THE ACTIVITIES OF THE CULTURAL ARTS OFFICE OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND WE ARE MORE THAN HONORED AND PROUD TO CONTINUE THIS SUPPORT SPANNING OVER FOUR DECADES. WE ALL ENJOY OUR OWN DEDICATION TO THE ARTS HERE IN CARLSBAD AND PERSONALLY ALL TAKE PART IN ART EVERY DAY IN OUR OWN WAYS.

WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER JOINING CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS AT CARLSBAD, FRIENDS OF THE ARTS.ORG AS A MEMBER AND SIGN UP TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW US TO SUPPORT THE ACTIVITIES OF THE CULTURAL ARTS OFFICE OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. AND WITH THAT WE ARE HONORED TO PRESENT YOU WITH A $35,000 DONATION.

THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.

NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL OTHER NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THAT THIS IS A CHAMBER, OR THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED. WHEN CLERK CALLS YOUR NAME, YOU'LL BE ASKED TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THE 2.5 MINUTE MARK.

THE PODIUM WILL TURN YELLOW, GIVING YOU AMPLE NOTICE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE 30S LEFT.

I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THREE MINUTES.

THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK.

PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY PIERRE KAVANAUGH.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE WATER DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN RAINBOW AND FALLBROOK.

THEY BROKE AWAY FROM WHAT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN STUCK WITH, AND THEY GOT LESS EXPENSIVE WATER RATES FOR THEIR RESIDENTS.

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THE DOOM LOOP. THE DOOM LOOP OR THE DOOM SPIRAL.

WHEN PEOPLE FLEE CALIFORNIA BECAUSE THERE THEY HAVE BIG INCOMES SUBJECT TO BIG TAXATION, IT LEAVES A VOID.

PEOPLE PEOPLE WITH LOWER INCOMES SUDDENLY HAVE TO START PAYING THE TAXES THAT THE PEOPLE USED TO PAY THAT HAD MORE MONEY.

AND THAT IS CALLED THE DOOM LOOP SPIRAL OR THE DOOM LOOP SPECIAL.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IS PLACES LIKE THIS, THEY WHETHER IT USED TO BE NINE CONCERTS ON FRIDAY NIGHTS IN THE SUMMER, THAT'S BEEN CUT DOWN TO SIX.

AND SO BASICALLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN TIME IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL CONSIST OF A POLICE CHIEF AND MAYBE THREE COPS AND HOPEFULLY A WHOLE BUNCH OF DRONES.

SO IN TERMS OF CUTTING BACK, WHICH NEEDS TO OCCUR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT ONE THIRD FEWER CONCERTS BECAUSE NO TAX INCREASE.

SO. COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO HERE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WONDERFUL IT IS TO HAVE CAMP PENDLETON NEARBY. WELL, EVERY MONTH THERE'S E-7, GUNNERY SERGEANTS, CHIEF PETTY OFFICERS AND MAJORS AND LIEUTENANT COMMANDERS THAT RETIRE.

AND I TOTALLY BELIEVE THAT ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD COME OVER HERE AND BE THE CITY MANAGER FOR $100,000, AND THEN NONE OF THEM WOULD NEED MEDICAL INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT IT AND THEIR RETIREMENT $100,000.

NOW, THERE'S A WEBSITE CALLED TRANSPARENT CALIFORNIA.COM THAT SAYS THAT OUR CITY MANAGER IS MAKING $468,000 A YEAR AND $73 A YEAR.

AND A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A SURVEY OF AMERICANS INDICATED THAT IF YOU'RE MAKING TWO POINT, IF YOU HAVE WEALTH OF $2.2 MILLION, YOU'RE RICH.

SO HOW ABOUT A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR OUR CITY MANAGER WHO'S RICH? THAT'S GREAT. GET A GOVERNMENT JOB AND GET RICH.

SO WHICH REMINDS ME OF THE WORD CARPETBAGGER.

ONE WHO BECOMES WEALTHY VIA TEMPORARY, CONTRIVED ASSOCIATIONS WITH PEOPLE AND SITUATIONS THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE OCCUR.

SO LET'S CUT BACK ON THE RIDICULOUS SALARIES AND TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AND TO NO OTHER.

DEAR COUNCIL. FACTS AGAINST IDEOLOGY.

CALIFORNIA AND CARLSBAD INCREASED THEIR POPULATION BETWEEN THE TWO CENSUSES A LOT.

SO THIS IS ALL BALONEY, RIGHT? OKAY. MRS. BURKHOLDER, YOU LIED ALREADY TO OUR FACE DURING YOUR CAMPAIGN IN 2022.

YOU POSED REPEATEDLY AS A DEMOCRAT ON FLIERS SENT TO REGISTERED DEMOCRATS TO DECEIVE US, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WITH FAKE ENDORSEMENTS OF WELL-KNOWN ELECTED OFFICIALS LIKE DAVID NEWSOM.

AND HERE YOU ARE. YOU PRETEND TO HAVE WORKED FOR THE SECRET SERVICE AND EARNED SEVERAL DECORATIONS FOR THAT SERVICE. CONVENIENTLY, IT IS, OF COURSE, NOT PUBLIC.

SO HOW DO WE KNOW THE TRUTH FROM A PROVEN LIAR? OUR LOCAL JOB CENTERS.

I UNDERSTAND. I AM ASKING YOU TO GIVE PROOF OF IT, MRS. BURKHOLDER. MRS. BURKHOLDER, ON YOUR SITE, YOU PROMISE TO PUSH FOR SCHOOL REFORM WITH THE PARENT ASSOCIATION OF CARLSBAD? THEY WON OF COURSE, LED BY REPUBLICANS ADVOCATING FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS AND WHO RECENTLY IGNITED THE CULTURE WAR AT THE UNIFIED SCHOOL BOARD OF CARLSBAD.

NO COINCIDENCE.

MRS. BURKHOLDER, A GOOD PATRIOT AS EVERYONE KNOWS YOU ARE PROPOSING IN THE AGENDA PACKET TO FLY THE CONFEDERATE FLAG IN CARLSBAD, THE ULTIMATE SYMBOL OF TREASON AND SLAVERY IN THIS COUNTRY, SEGREGATION AND TODAY, A RALLYING CRY FOR WHITE SUPREMACISTS.

YOU PRESENT IT AS A REQUEST FROM A CONSTITUENT.

SO NOT YOUR FAULT, RIGHT? NEXT TIME A CONSTITUENT WILL PROPOSE TO FLY A SWASTIKA FLAG, WHICH IS LEGAL IN THIS

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PLEASE, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING.

IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO IT, I'LL ASK YOU TO LISTEN FROM OUTSIDE.

PLEASE CALL THOSE NAMES AGAIN. GINA DUKE, FOLLOWED BY LAUREN ALLEN.

MIC] YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

GO AHEAD. SWITCH ORDER.

FIRST OFF, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY APPEARANCE.

I CAME STRAIGHT FROM WORK TODAY. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

OKAY. MY NAME IS LAUREN ALLEN.

I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AT FLEXOR FITNESS THAT RESIDES IN DISTRICT TWO OF CARLSBAD.

I'M SORRY. SUPER EMOTIONAL.

I'M ASKING YOU TO LISTEN TO MY ISSUE AND TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO TO HELP WITH THE IMPACT FEES AND FINES ISSUED BY THE CITY.

BUT I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA MY WHOLE LIFE, BORN AND RAISED.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT AND CITIZEN OF CARLSBAD SINCE 2012.

IN 2018, I BOUGHT A SMALL CROSSFIT GYM IN AN EFFORT TO TRANSFORM LIVES.

THE GYM HAD BEEN IN THE CURRENT LOCATION FOR OVER TEN YEARS PRIOR TO PURCHASING IT.

AS I WENT THROUGH THE TRANSITION OF OWNERSHIP, I BEGAN THE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT MY NEW BUSINESS WAS SET UP FOR SUCCESS.

I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY TO GET A BUSINESS LICENSE, WHICH LED TO MY NEED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT LATER LED TO A TENANT IMPROVEMENT BUILDING PERMIT AND NOW SEWAGE AND TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES.

I HAVE ACTED WITH INTEGRITY AND PURPOSE EVER SINCE TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE GYM.

I'M SO SORRY AND MADE PLANS TO FINALIZE MY BUSINESS LICENSE.

MY BUSINESS IS A SMALL BUSINESS.

LIKE MANY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, I HOPE TO GROW A BUSINESS TO PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY.

OWNING THIS GYM IS A PASSION OF MINE.

I ONCE STRUGGLED WITH EATING DISORDERS, BUT THROUGH CROSSFIT I BECAME EDUCATED IN THE IMPORTANCE OF LIVING A HEALTHY LIFE.

I'M DETERMINED TO SHARE THIS MESSAGE WITH OTHERS.

BEFORE OWNING THIS GYM, I WAS A PERSONAL TRAINER WORKING OUT OF MY GARAGE JUST LIKE THEN, AND AS MUCH NOW, I LOVE HELPING PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY WITH THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

SINCE BUYING MY GYM, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND ITS MEMBERSHIP AND ITS ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE FUNDRAISE AND HOST CHARITY EVENTS WITH LOCAL NONPROFITS THAT SUPPORT COMMUNITY LOCALS IN NEED. WE HAVE SPONSORED SOLUTIONS FOR CHANGE, THE ANDY VALENTI MELANOMA FOUNDATION AND A LA COSTA CANYON HIGH SCHOOL SOFTBALL COACH THAT WAS DIAGNOSED WITH BRAIN CANCER AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS. I WAS EVEN NAMED YOUNG PROFESSIONALS OF CARLSBAD, 40 UNDER 40 BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. DURING COVID, WE FOLLOWED THE RULES.

I KEPT MY EMPLOYEES ON PAYROLL EVEN THOUGH MY MEMBERSHIP SUNK TO THE LOWEST IT'S EVER BEEN. I LENT OUT MY GYM EQUIPMENT SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CONTINUED TO LIVE A HEALTHY LIFE AT HOME WHILE WE WERE URGED TO STAY INSIDE.

RUNNING A SMALL BUSINESS DURING A PANDEMIC WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS I'VE EVER HAD TO DO. AND THE STRUGGLE BACK FROM THIS HAS BEEN MONUMENTAL.

THE AMOUNT OF HOURS I HAVE WORKED AND THE TIME I'VE SPENT AWAY FROM MY FAMILY AND MY YOUNG KIDS WHO ARE OUTSIDE IS TIME I WILL NEVER GET BACK.

HOWEVER, THE HARD WORK HAS PAID OFF TO A DEGREE, AND I BELIEVE WE ARE ON THE BETTER SIDE OF IT NOW. WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO BE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE IN THE NUMBER OF THE COMMUNITIES.

OPERATING THE DAY TO DAY NEEDS OF MY BUSINESS GIVES ME JOY.

HOWEVER, THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING MY BUSINESS LICENSE FROM THE CITY HAS BEEN THE MOST CUMBERSOME PART OF MY ENTIRE JOURNEY.

MOST RECENTLY, IN ANOTHER DELAY, THE CITY HAS BEGUN TO ISSUE FINES FOR NOT HAVING A BUSINESS LICENSE. THEY HAVE ISSUED AN IMPACT FEE THAT IS APPROXIMATELY $15,000.

THIS IMPACT FEE, COMBINED WITH PREVIOUS FEES, FINES AND THE COST OF GETTING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL PUT ME OVER $23,000 IN DEBT.

I'M ASKING THAT YOU GUYS WILL CONSIDER A REDUCTION IN FEES THAT YOU CAN HELP ME STAY IN BUSINESS. OKAY, MA'AM.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EMAIL TODAY.

IT WAS A VERY TACTFUL EMAIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TALK WITH LAURA ROCA.

SO WALK THAT WAY AND SHE'LL HAIL YOU DOWN AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANKS FOR HEARING.

GO. HELLO, I AM GINA DUKE AND I AM A MEMBER AT FLEXOR FITNESS AND A TEACHER IN A SCHOOL THAT'S LOCATED IN CARLSBAD.

I MADE A CHOICE TO JOIN FLEXOR AND I'M HERE TO TRY TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAD ON MY LIFE AND ON THE COMMUNITY.

I JOINED WITH FOUR TEACHERS AND A HANDFUL OF TEACHERS, AND WHEN WE JOINED THE COMMUNITY, WE JOINED TO THINK, TO JOIN, TO BECOME HEALTHY AND TO RELIEVE STRESS. BUT WHEN I SAY JOIN THE COMMUNITY, I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S A MORE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION THAN GOT A GYM MEMBERSHIP.

GYM MEMBERSHIPS DON'T GIVE YOU A SENSE OF BELONGING.

THEY DON'T SEND YOU AWAY WITH A FEELING OF EMPOWERMENT AND ACCOMPLISHMENT.

GYM MEMBERSHIPS DON'T GIVE YOU HUGS WHEN YOU'VE HAD A ROUGH DAY OR A CHECK IN AND ASK

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AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T DRAG YOU OUT OF BED AT 4:30 IN THE MORNING TO JOIN A CLASS FULL OF PEOPLE WHO WILL LAUGH TOGETHER AND SUFFER TOGETHER.

THE FLEXOR COMMUNITY PROVIDES MORE THAN JUST A SERVICE.

WE ARE A FAMILY AND A LIFESTYLE WITH HEALTHY CHOICES.

WHAT WE AREN'T, WHAT WE DON'T DO IS MAKE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE ROADS AND PAVEMENTS AROUND OUR PHYSICAL SPACE.

OUR CARS DON'T WEAR OUT THE ROADWAYS ANY MORE THAN EVEN AS MUCH AS THE BIG TRUCKS THAT SURROUND OUR BUSINESS.

OUR FEET RUNNING ON THE PAVEMENT DON'T DETERIORATE THE PARKING LOT EVEN AS MUCH AS THE TRASH TRUCKS THAT COME IN TO TO TAKE AWAY THE TRASH PUT OUT BY THE OTHER BUSINESSES. AND WE DON'T PRODUCE ALMOST ANY WASTE OR EMISSIONS UNDER OTHER THAN COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF SWEAT. BUT WE ARE A SMALL GYM WITH RESPECTFUL CLIENTS AND OWNERS WHO GIVE EVERYTHING TO THOSE CLIENTS. I JUST ASK THAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THIS FEE WOULD MAKE ON A SMALL BUSINESS LIKE OURS AND THINK ABOUT HOW THAT IMPACT WILL BE FELT BY THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO CARE SO VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS BUSINESS. THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL THE REST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING.

NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ITEM NUMBER TEN.

WE ASKED SUPERVISOR TERRA LAWSON REMER TO COME AND MAKE A REPORT BECAUSE SHE HAS SOME SCHEDULING ISSUES. I'M GOING TO BRING HER ITEM NUMBER TEN TO BEING NEXT ON THE AGENDA AND I ASK JASON HABER

[10. UPDATE FROM SAN DIEGO COUNTY DISTRICT 3 SUPERVISOR TERRA LAWSON-REMER]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS ITEM IS TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THE THIRD DISTRICT COUNTY SUPERVISOR.

TERRA LAWSON REMER. SUPERVISOR LAWSON REMER WAS FIRST ELECTED TO REPRESENT DISTRICT THREE ON THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 2020.

SHE'S A THIRD GENERATION SAN DIEGAN WHO CURRENTLY LIVES IN ENCINITAS.

WE INVITED HER HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE SOME OF HER PRIORITIES AND THE ITEMS THAT SHE'S WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WITH THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SHARE SOME OF HER PRIORITIES FOR THE COMING YEAR.

THOSE INCLUDE PROTECTING OUR BEACHES AND COASTLINE FROM POLLUTION, ADDRESSING INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO HOMELESSNESS, ADDRESSING THE REGION'S MENTAL ILLNESS AND ADDICTION CRISES, ADDRESSING RISING RENTS AND HOME COSTS, AND PROTECTING KIDS AND COMMUNITIES FROM FENTANYL. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME CARLSBAD'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, VICE CHAIR LAWSON REMER.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME AND THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, I JUST REALLY GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK WITH YOU ALL, AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR VOTERS AND CONSTITUENTS HERE TODAY.

I KNOW THESE MEETINGS CAN BE LONG, AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HAVE ME STOP BY. I ALSO JUST WANT TO THANK THE CARLSBAD CITY STAFF.

YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AMAZING IN WORKING WITH OUR TEAM AT THE COUNTY IN SETTING THIS UP AND JUST GENERALLY ON SO MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE COLLABORATE ON.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.

I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT I'M FOCUSED ON AT THE COUNTY THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT TACKLING.

YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS TO THE LAST FEW YEARS, OUR COUNTY REALLY THOUGHT THAT THEIR JOB WAS TO DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR REGION.

AND I THINK THE APPROACH THAT WE'VE TAKEN OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS IS TO SAY, NO, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO BE PARTNERS WITH OUR CITIES AND TACKLING SOME OF THE MOST PRESSING CHALLENGES FACING OUR COMMUNITIES.

I KNOW THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS SINCE I'VE JOINED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS THAT FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, MAYORS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD REACH OUT LOOKING FOR A PARTNER AND THERE WAS NO ONE THERE.

AND I THINK IT'S BEEN ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES TO REALLY BE A PARTNER WITH ALL OF OUR CITIES ACROSS OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF 3.3 MILLION PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS TOGETHER. SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

YOU ALL ARE IN THE BEST DISTRICT IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, WHICH IS THE COASTAL DISTRICT.

WE HAVE CARLSBAD TO CORONADO, ALSO GOING INLAND TO INCLUDING RANCHO PENASQUITOS AND MIRA MESA. BUT REALLY, I THINK OF US AS THE COASTAL DISTRICT, THE HEART, THE BEATING, HEART AND SOUL OF WHAT MAKES SAN DIEGO COUNTY SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE AND REALLY BEING, YOU KNOW, THE SHEPHERD OF OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, OF OUR COASTAL WATERS AND REALLY BEING ABLE TO RAISE A VOICE ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND REPRESENTING THIS

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AND THAT'S DEFINITELY BEEN ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES.

EVERYTHING FROM INVESTING IN REAL SIGNIFICANT DOWN PAYMENTS ON FIXING OUR AGING STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM TO TRYING TO TACKLE HEAD ON THE SEWAGE CRISIS COMING ACROSS THE BORDER FROM TIJUANA.

WE RECENTLY PASSED A LOCAL DECLARATION OF A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND ARE ASKING NEWSOM, GOVERNOR NEWSOM, AS WELL AS PRESIDENT BIDEN, TO FOLLOW OUR LEAD SO THAT WE COULD UNLOCK SIGNIFICANT MORE RESOURCES AS WELL AS EXPEDITE TIMELINES ON TRYING TO GET THE POLLUTION PROBLEM FIXED.

IN ADDITION TO ELEVATING THIS ISSUE IN OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH WITH MEXICO, BECAUSE A BUNCH OF THE PROBLEMS ON THEIR SIDE OF THE BORDER AND WE REALLY NEED THEM TO TO TACKLE IT.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT I'VE BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON IS HOMELESSNESS, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, HOUSING.

SO JUST TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY, FRANKLY, LIKE DECADES OF NEGLECT BY OUR OLD GUARD LEADERSHIP AT THE COUNTY.

AND THEY REALLY SAID, YOU KNOW, HOMELESSNESS IS NOT OUR PROBLEM.

AND I THINK WE'VE TURNED THAT 180 DEGREES.

WE NOW HAVE A DEPARTMENT OF HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO LOOK ACROSS THE BOARD AT EVIDENCE BASED MODELS THAT WE CAN BRING TO SAN DIEGO, THAT WE CAN INVEST IN TACKLING OUR HOMELESSNESS CRISIS.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE IS IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

THAT'S A ROLE THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD LEAD ON.

AND AGAIN, HADN'T BEEN DOING ANYTHING ON BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FOR A GENERATION.

AND WE'VE TURNED THAT AROUND.

WE'VE BUILT SIX BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITIES IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND TRYING TO REALLY ON TRACK TO BUILD 17 BY 2030, AS WELL AS TRYING TO CATALYZE A LOT OF WORKFORCE INVESTMENTS IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

SO THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH KIND OF WRIT LARGE AND OBVIOUSLY PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT IN THE CASE OF OUR HOMELESSNESS CRISIS AND TRYING TO PROVIDE BOTH UPSTREAM SERVICES SO PEOPLE DON'T END UP IN SUCH A BAD STATE THAT THEY END UP ON OUR STREETS, BUT ALSO BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE FOLKS SERVICES ONCE THEY ARE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO JUST EXTEND TO YOU AS A COUNCIL AND AS AS OUR MAYOR UP HERE IN CARLSBAD IS, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL, I THINK, ARE FUNDAMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR WITH OUR HOUSING, OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION.

BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO BEING THERE 1,000%.

ANYTIME THAT YOU NEED ANY KIND OF SERVICES, ANY KIND OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, ANY KIND OF SERVICES WHATSOEVER, WE'VE FUNDED NEW LIVEWELL MOBILES SO THAT THEY CAN BE MOBILE AND BE ON WHEELS IN ADDITION TO SORT OF THE MORE KIND OF TRADITIONAL APPROACH OF JUST HAVING PEOPLE KIND OF HOUSED IN A SHELTER.

SO THAT'S THERE FOR YOU ALL.

AND WE HAVE ALSO PUT TOGETHER A FUND.

WE PUT OUT A $10 MILLION GRANT CHALLENGE AND APPRECIATE CARLSBAD.

YOU WERE ONE OF THE JURISDICTIONS THAT REALLY LED THE WAY IN ANSWERING THE CALL WITH THE $2 MILLION GRANT THAT WAS AWARDED TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES TO EXPAND THE POSADA HOMELESSNESS SHELTER AND JUST REALLY APPRECIATE SOME OF OUR CITY.

THESE DID NOT TAKE US UP.

AND JUST REALLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN IN TACKLING OUR HOMELESS CHALLENGE TOGETHER. ALSO WANTED TO MENTION CARE COURT WHICH IS COMING ONLINE IS IS A VERY NEW THING IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHICH IS A PATHWAY TO ENSURE THAT UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS OR PEOPLE IN CRISIS WHO MAYBE DON'T WANT TREATMENT BUT NEED IT CAN BE MANDATED TO GET TREATMENT. AND WE PUT OUR HANDS UP AT THE STATE LEVEL AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, COUNTY SAN DIEGO COUNTY, WE'RE READY TO BE A GUINEA PIG.

WE'RE READY TO TRY THIS.

WE'RE READY TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE'RE READY TO THROW OUT THE OLD PLAYBOOK ON HOMELESSNESS AND TRY SOMETHING NEW.

SO WE ARE DOING THAT.

AND THIS IS BEGINNING TO COME ONLINE ALREADY.

WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FULLY ROLLED OUT IN OPERATIONAL BY FALL.

AND THIS REALLY MEANS THAT IF THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WE KNOW NEED CARE AND THEY'RE ON OUR STREETS AND THEY JUST WON'T GET THE CARE THEY NEED, WE NOW WILL BE ABLE TO REFER THEM AND MAKE SURE MANDATE THAT THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO TO GET THAT CARE.

SO THAT'S I THINK IT'S AN EXPERIMENTAL PROGRAM.

WE'RE HOPING TO SEE RESULTS WITH THAT.

I ALSO JUST WANT TO MENTION THE OUTREACH THAT WE'RE DOING ON HOMELESSNESS.

WE LAUNCHED THE COUNTY SOCIAL OUTREACH ENHANCED OUTREACH PROGRAM IN 2021, AND WE WERE ABLE TO, AS A COUNTY, PROVIDE TWO SOCIAL WORKERS TO COVER CARLSBAD.

AND WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON CONNECTING INDIVIDUALS WITH SELF-SUFFICIENCY, SERVICES AND HOUSING SO THAT THEY CAN GET OFF THE STREETS SO THAT THEY CAN GET RESOURCES, GET INTO HOUSING, GET OFF THE STREETS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER BIG AREA THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

IN TERMS OF JUST MENTIONING AGAIN, I TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH WORK.

THIS IS A HUGE PRIORITY BECAUSE IT TOUCHES EVERYTHING.

IT'S NOT ONLY THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ON HOUSING AND TRYING TO SORRY ON HOMELESSNESS AND TRYING TO HELP TACKLE THE ROOT CAUSES OF OUR HOMELESSNESS CHALLENGE HERE IN OUR

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AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST HEARTBREAKING THINGS HAPPENING CURRENTLY ACROSS SAN DIEGO COUNTY ARE THE NUMBER OF OF FOLKS THAT ARE UNHOUSED ON OUR STREETS, BUT ALSO OUR KIDS WHO ARE YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY SAD, RIGHT? LIKE JUST SO TRAGIC.

AND YOU JUST SEE KIDS WHO ARE OVERDOSING.

THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE TOOLS AND THEY'RE NOT EQUIPPED TO KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH FENTANYL AND AS WELL AS A HUGE RATES OF ADDICTIONS ON OUR STREETS.

SO WE ARE HAVE BEEN ROLLING OUT PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN OPIOID AND FENTANYL EDUCATION, SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT INTERVENTION. AND I'M REALLY PROUD THAT WE WERE PRESCIENT, I SHOULD SAY, ENOUGH TO JOIN THE OPIOID LAWSUIT AND WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I GOT TO VOTE ON WHEN I JOINED THE BOARD, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM NEARLY $100 MILLION THAT WILL BE GETTING IN OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, BLATANT GROSS NEGLIGENCE OF SOME OF THESE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES AND GETTING OUR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ADDICTED TO OPIOIDS.

AND SO WE'RE WE'RE REINVESTING ALL OF THAT MONEY IN FENTANYL AND TACKLING THE FENTANYL CRISIS. UM, I FEEL LIKE I COULD TALK FOREVER.

WE DO A LOT AT THE COUNTY.

I THINK, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

JUST A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I WANT TO MENTION AGAIN ON HOMELESSNESS, BUT ALSO REALLY CONNECTED TO SENIORS.

WE'VE LAUNCHED A SENIOR SHALLOW RENT SUBSIDY PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON SENIORS THAT ARE AT REALLY DIRE RISK OF BEING EVICTED FROM THEIR HOUSING, TO NOT GET EVICTED, TO STAY HOUSED, TO NOT END UP ON OUR STREETS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE ON FIXED INCOMES.

AND WITH THE RISING COST OF RENTS, THEY'RE ENDING UP, YOU KNOW, UNHOUSED IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND SO WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON HOW DO WE PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS IN THE FIRST PLACE, STARTING WITH OUR SENIOR POPULATION.

AND THAT'S, AGAIN, A PILOT PROGRAM, A NOVEL PROGRAM.

THERE'S SOME GOOD RESEARCH AND EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN REALLY TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE IN SAN DIEGO AND TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS IN THE FIRST PLACE, BEGINNING WITH OUR SENIORS GUN VIOLENCE AND GUN SAFETY.

IT'S ANOTHER BIG ISSUE.

I MENTIONED THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE OPIOID MANUFACTURERS.

WE'VE ALSO FILED ANOTHER LAWSUIT AGAINST GHOST GUN MANUFACTURERS, AS WELL AS SIGNIFICANTLY EXPANDING THE MANDATE AND THE POWERS OF OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE GHOST GUN MANUFACTURERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE SEEN OVER 1,000% INCREASE IN THE PREVALENCE OF GHOST GUNS ON OUR STREETS.

AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT THIS BASICALLY MEANS IS YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND BUY GUN PARTS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON THEM OR ANY LABEL OR A COMPLETELY UNTRACEABLE ORDER THE GUN PARTS ONLINE IN YOUR HOUSE, ASSEMBLE THEM COMPLETELY, EVADE ANY KIND OF COMMON SENSE GUN REGULATIONS THAT WOULD MANDATE THINGS LIKE A MENTAL HEALTH CHECK, SOME KIND OF CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK.

YOU CAN INVADE ALL OF THOSE COMMONSENSE SAFEGUARDS AND THEN HAVE AN UNTRACEABLE WEAPON.

AND THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, ESPECIALLY OUR SHERIFF'S BIGGEST THREAT TO THEIR SAFETY ON OUR STREETS.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY CRACKING DOWN ON GHOST GUNS WITH NEW POWERS FOR OUR DA, AS WELL AS A LAWSUIT AGAINST GHOST GUN MANUFACTURERS AND EXPANDED EMPHASIS ON SAFE STORAGE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS I'M A MOM OF A OF A FOUR YEAR OLD.

AND I THINK THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY THE TOP TOPIC IN PRESCHOOL PLAYDATE GROUPS, IS THE FEAR THAT WE ALL HAVE AROUND GUNS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND SO, YEAH, AS I SAID, WE DO A LOT OF THE COUNTY.

IT'S AN $8.1 BILLION BUDGET.

WE HAVE 20,000 EMPLOYEES AND YOU GUYS HAVE JUST BEEN AMAZING PARTNERS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO COME HERE, TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND KIND OF OPEN A CHANCE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? WE DO NOT. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MISS LUNA? HELLO, SUPERVISOR.

WELCOME. GLAD YOU'RE NOT A STRANGER.

WE HOPE YOU COME HERE AGAIN SOON.

WELL, I HAVE TO BE HONEST.

I DO COME TO CARLSBAD A LOT, BUT USUALLY TO SURF.

I'M AT TAMARACK'S A LOT.

BUT DON'T MAKE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

WELL, IF YOU COME ON A TUESDAY, WE DON'T MIND YOU COMING IN YOUR WET SUIT.

LOVE IT. YOUR TIMING IS IS VERY APROPOS IN THAT TODAY WE WILL BE CONSIDERING AN APPOINTMENT TO THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER NOMINATION AND WE'LL BE NOMINATING TWO INDIVIDUALS.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU AND SUPERVISOR DESMOND CAN GET THIS ON YOUR AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN GET THESE PEOPLE PLACED. SO THAT IS A REQUEST THAT I WOULD HAVE OF THE TWO OF YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

MS. BURKHOLDER THANK YOU, MS. REMER, FOR BEING HERE. SUPERVISOR, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

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SO I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN ENGAGE WITH THOSE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY TO GET THEM THE HELP THAT THEY NEED. AND I'M JUST I'VE BEEN ON CALLS TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAM, AND WE'RE GEARED AT GEARING UP HERE IN CARLSBAD TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT AS SOON AS IT ROLLS OUT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MS..

ACOSTA. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR, FOR BEING HERE.

WE'RE SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU AND TO HAVE YOU BE OUR OUR SUPERVISOR.

I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE CONFUSION ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING, AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN HELP US EXPLAIN, LIKE HOW THE COUNTY WAS REDISTRICTED AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUR NEW SUPERVISOR FOR THIS AREA.

CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC? ABSOLUTELY. SO EVERY TEN YEARS, BY LAW, THERE'S REDISTRICTING.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT, OBVIOUSLY, IS THAT POPULATION SHIFT.

AND YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE CONTINUE TO HAVE PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION AS SOME COMMUNITIES GROW FASTER THAN OTHERS AND SOME SHRINK.

AND THERE WAS A LAW PASSED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT SAID THAT THE COUNTY REDISTRICTING WOULD BE DONE BY CITIZENS REDISTRICTING COMMISSION.

SO THEY DELIBERATED WITH ALL SORTS OF INPUT FROM ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS. AND THE THESE NEW MAPS WERE ADOPTED IN DECEMBER OF 2021.

SO ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

SO I'VE BEEN YOUR, YOU KNOW, PROUD TO SORT OF DE FACTO, IF NOT DE JURE REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD SINCE THEN.

AND PREVIOUSLY YOU WERE IN DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH IS MY REPRESENTED BY MY COLLEAGUE JIM DESMOND. BUT NOW YOU ARE IN DISTRICT THREE, WHICH IS A BETTER DISTRICT.

ABSOLUTELY A BETTER DISTRICT.

SO WELCOME. AND NO, BUT I MEAN THAT I THINK I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE A DISTRICT THAT IS ABLE TO SPEAK IN LIKE A REALLY COHERENT WAY AROUND OUR SHARED COASTAL ISSUES.

RIGHT. TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CARLSBAD, WE'RE ENCINITAS, WE'RE SOLANA BEACH, WE'RE DEL MAR OR LA JOLLA, WE'RE PACIFIC BEACH, WE'RE POINT LOMA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OCEAN BEACH, WE'RE CORONADO.

THERE'S YOU KNOW, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND THERE'S SOME THERE'S AN IMPORTANT THREAD THAT RUNS THROUGH A LOT OF OUR SHARED OUR SHARED PRIORITIES. SO THAT IS THE NEW THE NEW DISTRICT.

AND AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY FOUR YEARS THERE'S AN ELECTION.

SO I WAS ELECTED IN 2020 AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ELECTION IN WHICH EVERYONE HERE GETS TO PARTICIPATE IN 2024.

GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP.

YOU MENTIONED THAT QUITE A BIT, PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT. WE TALK ABOUT OUR COLLABORATION AND OUR PARTNERSHIP, ESPECIALLY ON THE ISSUES THAT YOU MENTIONED, HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING AND CARE COURT COMING LATER THIS YEAR.

COUNCILMEMBER BURKHALTER AND I BOTH SIT ON THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT STATE LEGISLATION COMING DOWN AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH AND CARE COURT.

SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ROLLOUT LATER THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY, AND HOPE TO STAY IN VERY CLOSE CONTACT WITH YOUR OFFICE AND AND COUNTY STAFF JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING MOVES SMOOTHLY.

SO THANK YOU. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU.

I AGAIN, JUST WANT TO SAY YOU AS A CITY ARE REALLY JUST WONDERFUL PARTNERS ON A LOT OF OUR KEY INITIATIVES. AND AGAIN, I THINK THE INITIATIVE YOU TOOK ON THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY JURISDICTIONS IN THIS COUNTY WHO DIDN'T STEP FORWARD WITH A PLAN, AND YOU GUYS DID.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND JUST REALLY QUICKLY, BEFORE WE MOVE ALONG, WE DO HAVE THAT AGENDA ITEM.

HOPEFULLY YOU SAW IT ABOUT THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT HOW THAT REPRESENTATIVE AND WHEN THAT REPRESENTATIVE WOULD BE SELECTED, WE ARE GOING AHEAD TONIGHT TO TO VOTE ON OUR CITY'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHO OUR CITY, OUR CITY COUNCIL CHOOSES AS OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO GO TO THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT, MISS BHAT-PATEL.

YES. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE, SUPERVISOR.

AND SO GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE.

I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO KNOW WHO THEIR REPRESENTATIVE IS.

AND I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE FIRST TIME, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, THAT WE'VE HAD OUR SUPERVISOR HERE. SO REALLY APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THAT EFFORT AND FOR YOUR TEAM TO BE HERE TODAY.

I THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE CLEARLY HAS SPOKEN VOLUMES.

I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE CITY AND JUST OBVIOUSLY THE 2 MILLION GRANT, THAT $2 MILLION GRANT THAT YOU MENTIONED WITH REGARDS TO LA POSADA AND THE EXPANSION IS SOMETHING THAT'S EXTREMELY CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.

I KNOW THAT ALL OF US UP HERE REALLY KNOW THAT HOMELESSNESS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR ABOUT. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT EVEN WHEN I WAS RUNNING BACK IN 2018.

SO I KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB AND I HAVE TO CREDIT OUR STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN A DIFFERENCE HERE.

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WITH REGARDS TO THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PIECE THAT YOU MENTIONED, I REALLY APPRECIATED THE THE DETAIL THAT YOU ALL HAVE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, CREATED THESE AND HAD THESE FACILITIES BLOSSOM IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU'RE HOPING TO SEE 17 BY 2030, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT, THE WELLNESS MOBILES IS A PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONAL ESPECIALLY, I THINK IS REALLY AMAZING BECAUSE YOU'RE BRINGING THOSE SERVICES WHERE PEOPLE ARE AT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, REALLY KUDOS TO THE COUNTY FOR THINKING ABOUT THAT AND, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY ACTING ON IT AND COURT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THAT ROLLS OUT. SO I'M HOPING THAT IN FALL WE DO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED FALL. IT'LL LIKELY GET ROLLED OUT.

AND THE JUST PERSONALLY THE PIECE AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY AND GUNS JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT AS WELL.

SO THANKS. THANKS.

THANK YOU AND THE ENTIRE BOARD FOR TAKING ON COURT.

I THINK THAT'S LONG OVERDUE.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE.

I KNOW YOU'RE JUST A POLICY MAKER AND YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE DETAILS, BUT YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY OF CARE COURT IS.

AND IF YOU DON'T, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DON'T HAVE I DON'T KNOW.

I WILL SAY WE WE'VE BEEN MEETING ON THIS.

WE ARE TRYING TO BE READY FOR HOWEVER MANY FOLKS ARE REFERRED.

THAT'S THE GOAL. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DIRECTED STAFF TO TO WORK TOWARDS AS OPPOSED TO HAVING SOME KIND OF CAPACITY CAP.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON ACHIEVING THAT GOAL, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE AIMING FOR.

BY SEPTEMBER, I THINK ALL THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY ARE RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS.

AND I THINK THAT AT LEAST AT THE MOMENT, THIS SEEMS LIKE THE BEST IDEA.

SO THANK YOU FOR FOR TAKING THAT ON.

ALSO, YOU SAID CARLSBAD WAS ONE OF THE FEW CITIES TO STEP UP FOR SOME OF THE $10 MILLION GRANT MONEY. AND THANK YOU FOR THE $2 MILLION AND LAPOSATA THANKS YOU, BUT YOU SAID WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW. DO YOU HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT OVER? I THINK WE SUCH A GOOD QUESTION.

NO, WE DID GIVE IT ALL AWAY.

BUT I MEAN, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT.

THERE WERE 19 POTENTIAL JURISDICTIONS AND I THINK WE HAD SIX MAYBE THAT STEP FORWARD.

SO. OKAY, NEXT TIME.

NEXT TIME. TERRA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

IT MEANT A LOT TO US, SO WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME BACK. OKAY.

WELL, I JUST I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL.

I APPRECIATE YOU INVITING ME.

THIS IS WONDERFUL. AND I'M JUST I LOVE THAT CARLSBAD'S IN THE DISTRICT.

LIKE I SAID, I, I SURF UP HERE A LOT, BUT DON'T, DON'T, DON'T MAKE IT TOO MANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. SO THANKS.

THANK YOU.

NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS NUMBER ONE THROUGH SEVEN.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON? EXCUSE ME FOR JUST A MOMENT.

YES, SIR. YEAH, IT'LL BE DONE. OKAY, SO WE GO BACK.

YEAH, GO BACK. THE LAST GOING BACK.

OKAY. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT I AM NOT REALLY GOOD AT MATH AND THAT I CALLED ONLY FOUR PUBLIC COMMENT PEOPLE AND I'M SUPPOSED TO CALL FIVE.

SO TO STAY FAIR, PLEASE CALL THE FIFTH PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND THEN AFTER THAT THE REMAINDER WILL HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE END OF THE MEETING.

MICAH ALLEN. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY RUSHING TO THE PODIUM. PLEASE CALL THE NEXT ONE.

RICHARD RICE.

PLEASE CALL THE NEXT ONE. AMANDA MCCOWAN.

SARAH CHESTER. MATT GRIM.

TAMARA DIXON. PLAY THAT ONE.

I KNOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

THAT WAS REALLY WEIRD.

OKAY. CONCERNING THE FLAG.

MS.. PATEL, YOU WROTE AN OFFENSIVE EMAIL CALLING MY GROUP AND ME WHITE SUPREMACISTS.

AND BECAUSE WE INTERRUPT YOU, THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM.

OH, IS IT NUMBER?

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NO, WE'RE NOT AGENDA.

WE'RE DOING NON-AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENT. DID YOU HAVE A NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

YOU CALLED ME. WAS THAT IS IT ONE THROUGH SEVEN? LIBRARY. UH HUH.

OH, YEAH. THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

OH, IT WAS MY ERROR.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO CALL FIVE. APPARENTLY, I ONLY CALLED FOUR.

SO YOUR NUMBER? FIVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO PLEASE SPEAK ON THAT ISSUE.

UM. OKAY? YEAH, I DO.

DO YOU WANT. YEAH.

DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT? YEAH.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT WE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THE END.

I COUNTED WRONG. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO CALL THE FIRST FIVE.

APPARENTLY, I ONLY CALLED FOUR.

OH, SO YOU'RE NOW NUMBER FIVE.

OKAY, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE END.

NOW I GET IT.

OKAY. I'M SORRY.

OKAY. I RECENTLY WENT TO THE KOHL LIBRARY TO LISTEN TO A PANEL OF PROGRESSIVE NORTH COUNTY LGBTQ PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THEIR SUMMER CLASSES.

AND BEFORE THEY TALKED, A DRAG QUEEN CAME OUT AND THEY PERFORMED.

AND THERE WERE SOME KIDS IN THE AUDIENCE.

AND I'M THINKING, OKAY, WELL, IS THIS OKAY FOR PARENTS TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN OR TO HAVE THE KIDS HERE? SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR THE PANEL.

I SAID, WELL, IS IT OKAY TO HAVE SCHOOLCHILDREN AS WELL AS YOUR CHILDREN HERE? AND THEY WOULDN'T ANSWER ME.

AND SO BASICALLY, I WAS RUSHED OUT OF THE ROOM.

I WAS ATTACKED. AND, YOU KNOW, NEVER REALLY DID GET ANY ANSWERS.

AND SO THEN I DID ASK A SECOND QUESTION ABOUT A BOOK CALLED GENDER QUEER, AND IT WAS ABOUT TWO BOYS THERE GIVING ORAL SEX TO EACH OTHER.

AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE SEXUALIZATION THAT CARLSBAD IS KIND OF GOING DOWN.

AND I'M JUST I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE YOUNGER CHILDREN.

I THINK THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS KNOW MORE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND I HOPE SO.

BUT FOR THE YOUNGER KIDS, I'M REALLY CONCERNED AND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

AND IT HAS TO DO WITH LGBTQ MORE OF THE RADICAL SIDE OF THEM.

ABOUT 50% OF WHAT I'VE KNOWN AS LGBTQ HAS MOVED TO THE RIGHT.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE KIDS JUST WANTING TO REALLY HELP THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS.

GENDER GENDERQUEER SHOULD NOT BE PUT IN THAT IN THAT REALM.

IT'S JUST WRONG.

AND DRAG QUEENS SHOULD NOT BE PERFORMING IN FRONT OF CHILDREN.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR JUST ONE MOMENT.

YES. I DON'T SEE HER.

WOULD YOU PLEASE GO RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOORS? I'M GOING TO HAVE SUZANNE SMITHSON FROM THE LIBRARY COME AND TALK TO YOU.

PERFECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'D BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE SHE KNOWS.

OKAY? OKAY.

I'M SO SORRY ABOUT THE CONFUSION AND MY LACK OF ABILITY TO COUNT TO FIVE, BUT NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

SO LET'S GET NUMBER ONE THROUGH FIVE PASSED.

SO I NEED A MOTION FOR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE.

SO MOVED. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

[6. AGREEMENT WITH CHEN RYAN ASSOCIATES, INC. TO UPDATE THE VILLAGE, BARRIO, AND BEACH AREA PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND VILLAGE & BARRIO MASTER PLAN]

ACOSTA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WAS LOOKING AT ITEM NUMBER SIX.

THIS IS THE AGREEMENT WITH CHEN RYAN ASSOCIATES TO UPDATE THE VILLAGE, BARRIO AND BEACH AREA PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN AND VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN.

AND I JUST WAS WONDERING IF I COULD GET STAFF TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE USE OF THE AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT IS ARTICULATED IN HERE AND WHAT KIND OF PRIVACY PROTECTIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FOR OUR RESIDENTS GOING THROUGH THE CITY IN TERMS OF THEIR LICENSE PLATES BEING READ, THAT DATA

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YES, THANK YOU.

ERIC LARDY, CITY PLANNER.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WITH RESPECT TO THIS AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LICENSE PLATES, READERS TO ENSURE DATA PROTECTION DATA PRIVACY AND SECURITY.

FIRST, THE DATA IS ONLY GOING TO BE COLLECTED WITH VEHICLES POINTED TOWARDS THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. ONCE THE CAMERAS GO AND COLLECT THAT INFORMATION, IT IS NOT SHARED ON THE INTERNET OR ANY OTHER NETWORKS. IT'S KEPT ON EXTERNAL HARD DRIVES AND PROCESSED AND TURNED INTO GENERALIZED DATA.

IT'S IMMEDIATELY DELETED FROM THE CAMERA STORAGE.

AND ONCE IT'S TURNED INTO GENERALIZED DATA WITH RESPECT TO CAR TURNOVER RATES, THE VIDEO ITSELF IS ALSO DELETED.

SO THAT IS NEVER AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY TO EITHER TAKE AND IT'S NEVER SHARED OUTSIDE OF THE CONSULTANTS. THE CITY ALSO OWNS THAT DATA AND IT WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FOLLOW THOSE PROTOCOLS.

IT'S ALSO NOT SHARED WITH ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR OTHER AGENCY OR ENTITY.

IT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROGRAM FROM THAT.

GREAT. THANK YOU. AND JUST JUST TO FOLLOW UP, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD THIS CORRECTLY IS THE INFORMATION.

THE INFORMATION IS NOT STORED OR WHAT HAPPENS TO THE INFORMATION AT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. I UNDERSTAND IT'S DELETED OR DESTROYED.

WHAT IS THE POLICY ON THAT? IT'S DELETED AFTER THEY'RE DONE GENERALIZING IT INTO GENERAL INFORMATION ON THE STREETS AND THE PARKING TURNOVER AND THEN DELETED ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS CONCERNS AROUND PRIVACY AND WHO'S GETTING THIS INFORMATION.

AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT WE AT THE CITY ARE BEING RESPONSIBLE AND HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE.

SO I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO AND THAT THE INFORMATION IS SCRAMBLED OR ANONYMIZED OR GENERALIZED. AS YOU SAID, I'VE HEARD THOSE OTHER WORDS USED AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND THAT THAT INFORMATION WILL BE DESTROYED AFTER.

GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM SIX? MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM SIX, MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[7. CITY COUNCIL CODE OF ETHICS AND PUBLIC SERVICE VALUES]

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, MAYOR TAMARA DIXON, FOLLOWED BY KRYSIA.

I INSTRUCTED TAMARA TO GO OUT AND SPEAK WITH SUZANNE SMITHSON.

SO CAN WE TAKE THEM OUT OF ORDER, PLEASE? OKAY. KRYSIA, PLEASE.

YEAH. HI, I'M KRYSIA. I LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

COUNCILWOMAN PRIYA BHAT-PATEL SENT ME A LETTER ON CAMPAIGN LETTERHEAD, BUT SIGNED IT AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CALLING PARENTS WHO OPPOSE CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT'S FILM ETHNIC STUDIES PROGRAM WHITE SUPREMACY AND STATING EXTREMISTS ARE TAKING OVER OUR SCHOOL BOARD.

SHE VIOLATED THE CITY CODE OF ETHICS WHEN SHE WROTE THAT CITIZENS WHO DISAGREE WITH THE PROPOSED DIVERSITY AND EQUITY INCLUSION POLICIES OR THE TEACHING OF HISTORY, ACCORDING TO CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, ARE ALIGNED WITH THE BELIEF OF WHITE SUPREMACY. NOTHING IS FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

THE UPROAR CREATED BY HER INCENDIARY COMMENTS FORCED THE SCHOOL BOARD TO CHANGE THE LOCATION OF THEIR MEETING AND INCUR ADDITIONAL SECURITY COSTS.

CARLSBAD ETHICS CODE STATES IN PART, I TREAT THE PUBLIC POLITELY, PROFESSIONALLY, AND WITH AN APPROPRIATE APPRECIATION FOR ALL COMMON HUMANITY.

I WELCOME DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

I ACT IN WAYS THAT HELP PEOPLE FEEL VALUED.

I STRIVE TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL HEARD BY LISTENING CAREFULLY AND SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND THE INTERESTS UNDERLYING THE POSITIONS I SUPPORT DEFINING IMPORTANT WORDS, AVOIDING JARGON. I CONTRIBUTE TO AN INTERPERSONAL ENVIRONMENT TO HELP MOVE CONVERSATIONS FORWARD WITH THE GOAL OF FINDING COMMON GROUND.

I VALUE. I GAIN VALUE FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

I RECOGNIZE THAT I AM AN AGENT OF A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, NOT THE OWNER OF AUTHORITY.

I AM ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY ACTIONS AND WORDS.

I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS.

THIS INCLUDES APOLOGIZING WHEN I REALIZE THAT MY BEHAVIOR HAS FALLEN SHORT OF THE ASPIRATIONS STANDARDS IN THIS CODE.

DOES CARLSBAD HAVE A PROTECTIVE POLITICAL ELITE? CLASS IS THE CLASS OF IS THE IS THIS THE CASE OF RULES FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR ME? BHAT-PATEL INCENDIARY AND HATEFUL ACCUSATIONS VIOLATE EACH OF THESE ETHICS CODES I JUST READ. COUNCILMAN BHAT-PATEL.

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS AND WORDS.

APOLOGIZE FOR USING HATEFUL INCENDIARY LANGUAGE AGAINST CARLSBAD CITIZENS.

THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO DO.

WAITING FOR THE OTHER SPEAKER BEFORE WE TAKE THIS.

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OKAY. THANK YOU. TAKES CARE OF IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? OKAY. NEED A MOTION, PLEASE.

MOVE. APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT CITY MANAGER.

[8. FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 FINAL ENGINEER’S REPORT AND ANNUAL LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS IN STREETLIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICT NO. 1, A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT]

DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT.

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR, ROXANNE SCHULMEISTER.

ROXANNE. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ROXANNE MEISTER, THE CITY'S ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR.

TONIGHT I HAVE TWO VERY BRIEF PRESENTATIONS AHEAD OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THESE ARE OUR ANNUAL PUBLIC HEARINGS TO SET OUR ASSESSMENTS, OUR SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR OUR TWO LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE DISTRICTS.

I WILL DO THEM ONE AT A TIME.

I'M THE FIRST ONE TONIGHT IS FOR OUR DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

SO AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 6TH, 2023, COUNCIL ADOPTED A RESOLUTION THAT INITIATED THE PROCEEDINGS FOR THE CITY'S STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICT.

NUMBER ONE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-24.

IT APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY ANNUAL ENGINEER'S REPORT AND SET TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING.

TONIGHT, I WILL BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THE ANNUAL ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION, A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CONDUCTED AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCIL WILL BE ASKED TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE ENGINEER'S REPORT AND SET THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 2324.

DISTRICT NUMBER ONE COLLECTS ASSESSMENTS TO BE USED FOR IMPROVEMENTS MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE DISTRICT IS SPLIT INTO THREE ZONES THE STREET LIGHTING IMPROVEMENT ZONE, STREET TREE IMPROVEMENT ZONE, AND THE MEDIAN LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENT ZONE.

THE ASSESSMENT FOR AN AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY PARCEL, WHICH BENEFITS FROM ALL THREE IMPROVEMENT ZONES IN DISTRICT NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN $70.44 FOR THE LAST 27 FISCAL YEARS AND IS PROPOSED TO BE THE SAME FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2324.

RATES HAVE NOT INCREASED IN THIS TIME BECAUSE THE DISTRICT WAS FORMED IN 1983 WITHOUT AN ALLOWABLE RATE INFLATOR AFTER THE 1996 PASSAGE OF THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON TAXES ACT, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PROPOSITION 218 IN ORDER FOR THE CITY TO INCREASE ASSESSMENTS.

A NOTICE AND A BALLOT MUST BE SENT TO EACH ASSESSED PROPERTY OWNER AND A MAJORITY OF THE BALLOTS RECEIVED BACK TO THE CITY MUST APPROVE ANY PROPOSED INCREASE IN ASSESSMENTS. THIS CHART SUMMARIZES THE FUNDING SOURCES AND TOTAL COST ESTIMATE FOR EACH IMPROVEMENT ZONE IN DISTRICT NUMBER ONE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 ASSESSMENTS IN EACH ZONE ARE COLLECTED ANNUALLY FROM PROPERTY OWNERS.

THE STREET LIGHTING FUND WILL RECEIVE A GENERAL BENEFIT CONTRIBUTION OF JUST UNDER $200,000 FROM THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.

THE GENERAL BENEFIT IS THE SHARE OF BENEFITS RECEIVED FROM AN IMPROVEMENT THAT DOES NOT PROVIDE A SPECIAL BENEFIT TO THE ASSESSED PROPERTIES.

ONLY SPECIAL BENEFITS CAN BE ASSESSED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, WHICH IS WHY THE GENERAL BENEFIT IS PAID BY THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.

FOR STREET LIGHTING THE CITY HAS DETERMINED THAT THE GENERAL BENEFIT IS DERIVED EXCLUSIVELY ALONG THE CITY'S ARTERIAL ROADS.

ALL THREE ZONES RECEIVE A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY'S LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICT NUMBER TWO. FOR WORK BEING DONE ON IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT DISTRICT.

THESE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM DISTRICT NUMBER TWO ARE MADE BECAUSE ALL THE COSTS FOR THE CITY'S STREETLIGHTS, STREET TREES AND MEDIANS ARE CHARGED THROUGH DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

THE CONTRIBUTION FROM DISTRICT NUMBER TWO IS MADE TO REIMBURSE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE FOR THOSE MAINTENANCE COSTS, TOTAL REVENUES AND ACCUMULATED FUND RESERVES IN BOTH THE STREET TREES AND MEDIAN LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENT FUNDS WILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO COVER ANTICIPATED COSTS FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE WITHIN EACH OF THE ZONES.

THE CITY HAS HISTORICALLY RELIED ON ANNUAL GENERAL FUND OPERATING TRANSFERS TO MAKE UP THESE ANNUAL DEFICITS.

THE TREES AND MEDIANS FUND WILL RECEIVE A CASH TRANSFER OF $535,000 AND 1,035,000 RESPECTIVELY, FROM THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. THESE TRANSFERS WERE RECENTLY APPROVED IN THE CITY'S OPERATING BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-24.

THIS CONCLUDES THE REPORT ON DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME BEFORE THE PUBLIC IS HEARING IS OPENED.

AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WERE REQUESTING THAT COUNCIL ADOPT A RESOLUTION THAT APPROVES THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS AND THE ENGINEER'S REPORTS IN DISTRICT NUMBER ONE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-24.

I'M OPENING PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC HEARING? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

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SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

LET'S TRY AGAIN, PLEASE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER NINE, PLEASE.

[9. FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 FINAL ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR THE ANNUAL LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS WITHIN STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICT NO. 2, A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT]

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS THE FISCAL YEAR 23-24.

FINAL ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR THE ANNUAL LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS WITHIN STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT MAKING OUR PRESENTATION AGAIN ROXANNE SCHULMEISTER. TAKE IT AWAY, ROXANNE.

THANK YOU. THIS IS FOR OUR DISTRICT NUMBER TWO.

SO AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 6TH, 2023, COUNCIL ADOPTED A RESOLUTION THAT INITIATED THE PROCEEDINGS FOR THE CITY'S STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICT.

NUMBER TWO FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 2324 APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEER'S REPORT AND SET TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING. TONIGHT, I'LL BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THE ANNUAL ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR DISTRICT NUMBER TWO.

AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION, A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CONDUCTED.

AFTER THE HEARING, COUNCIL WILL BE ASKED TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL ENGINEER'S REPORT AND SET THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-24.

THE CITY'S LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING DISTRICT NUMBER TWO WAS FORMED IN 2003 FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY TO PAY THE MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT COSTS OF STREET LIGHTING, STREET TREES AND MEDIAN LANDSCAPING WITHIN THOSE AREAS.

EACH DEVELOPMENT WITHIN DISTRICT NUMBER TWO IS CONSIDERED A SEPARATE ZONE WITH THEIR OWN ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE COSTS FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF THE CITY.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY 16 BENEFIT DEVELOPMENT ZONES LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS PART OF THIS DISTRICT. IN EACH OF THE DEVELOPMENT ZONES.

IN DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, A MAXIMUM AND ACTUAL ASSESSMENT RATE IS CALCULATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THE MAXIMUM ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS CAN INCREASE BY THE ANNUAL INCREASE IN THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR THE SAN DIEGO REGION.

THE TABLE SHOWN HERE PROVIDES THE AVERAGE ACTUAL ASSESSMENT RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 AND THE PROPOSED ANNUAL ASSESSMENT RATE FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 BY ZONE.

THE LAST TABLE OF THIS COLUMN OR THE LAST TABLE EXCUSE ME, THE LAST COLUMN OF THIS TABLE SHOWS THE DOLLAR CHANGE BY ZONE IN THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT OVER THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.

THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNTS CAN VARY BETWEEN THE ZONES IN THIS DISTRICT, DEPENDING ON THE DENSITY AND THE AMOUNT AND TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS BEING MAINTAINED BY THE CITY WITHIN EACH DEVELOPMENT.

IN A MAJORITY OF THESE ZONES, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS OF THESE ZONES HAVE REQUESTED TO MAINTAIN ALL OR A PORTION OF THEIR IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THOSE ZONES. THE ACTUAL ASSESSMENT RATES ARE MUCH LOWER THAN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED.

THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR DISTRICT NUMBER TWO.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED.

ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS CONCLUDED, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT COUNCIL ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT, THE ANNUAL ENGINEER'S REPORTS, AND ESTABLISH THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023-24.

OPENING PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? MOTION PLEASE. I MOVE APPROVAL.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.

ITEM 11.

BEFORE WE GO ON TO ITEM 11, LET'S TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK.

WE WILL RECONVENE AT 6:20 ON TIME, PLEASE.

[11. PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER NOMINATION]

THIS ITEM IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION THAT IDENTIFIES ONE CARLSBAD RESIDENT AS THE CITY'S PRIMARY CANDIDATE AND ONE RESIDENT AS AN ALTERNATE CANDIDATE FOR NOMINATION AND APPOINTMENT TO THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE ADVISES THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTY'S CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICERS ON PLANNING AND OPERATIONS AT MCCLELLAN-PALOMAR AIRPORT HERE IN CARLSBAD. THE COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF NINE MEMBERS.

THEY'RE ALL NOMINATED BY THE DISTRICT FIVE COUNTY SUPERVISOR, WHICH IS CURRENTLY JIM DESMOND. AND THOSE NOMINEES ARE THEN APPOINTED BY THE ENTIRE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, IN ACCORDANCE WITH COUNTY CODE, MAY IDENTIFY ONE CARLSBAD RESIDENT FOR THE DISTRICT FIVE SUPERVISOR TO CONSIDER FOR NOMINATION.

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FROM JUNE OF THIS YEAR, WE FOLLOWED AN APPLICATION PROCESS THAT INCLUDED AN APPLICATION WINDOW THAT RAN FROM JUNE 15TH THROUGH JUNE 26TH.

WE SOLICITED APPLICATIONS THROUGH THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND OTHER MEANS.

WE DISTRIBUTED THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED TO THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 27TH AFTER THE WINDOW CLOSED AND WE NOTIFIED APPLICANTS THAT THEY WERE ENCOURAGED TO MEET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS IN ADVANCE OF TONIGHT'S MEETING TO DISCUSS THEIR INTEREST IN QUALIFICATIONS FOR SERVING.

THAT BRINGS US TO TONIGHT.

APPLICANTS WERE INVITED AND NOTIFIED OF TONIGHT'S MEETING AND INVITED TO ATTEND AND PROVIDE COMMENTS IF THEY WOULD LIKE.

AND TONIGHT IS AGAIN FOR US TO IDENTIFY THAT RESIDENT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SELECT FOR THE DISTRICT FIVE SUPERVISOR TO CONSIDER NOMINATING.

WE RECEIVED 15 APPLICANTS, 15 APPLICATIONS.

THEIR NAMES ARE LISTED HERE ALONG WITH THEIR COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT THEY LIVE IN.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AGAIN.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AT THIS TIME, OTHERWISE WE'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE NINE SPEAKERS, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS AND PLUS WE HAVE MANY SPEAKERS ON FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO CUT THE TIME FROM THREE MINUTES DOWN TO TWO MINUTES FOR EACH SPEAKER. SO PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER.

GARY GREENING, FOLLOWED BY SHIRLEY ANDERSON.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS GARY GREENING AND I HAVE BEEN A LOCAL CARLSBAD HOMEOWNER FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW AND I LIVE IN THE HERON BAY, SPYGLASS HILL HOA, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE AIRPORT.

SO VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AIRPORT OPERATION AND SUCH.

I ALSO AM A US ARMY VETERAN AND I OWN A SMALL TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPANY HERE IN CARLSBAD THAT SPECIALIZES IN WIRELESS INFRASTRUCTURE. I'VE BEEN A REGULAR ATTENDANT ATTENDANT AT THE PACK MEETINGS FOR THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS AND HAVE A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE PACK OPERATES AND HOW THEY WORK.

I ALSO BECAME AWARE OF THE PACK HAS A POLICY OF THE NAP, WHICH IS THE VOLUNTARY NOISE ABATEMENT PROGRAM THAT HASN'T BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE. SO I HAVE HAD PERSONAL MEETINGS WITH SOME OF THE AIRPORT STAFF, SUCH AS OLIVIER BRACKETT AND MANY, MANY OF THE PACK MEMBERS TO DISCUSS THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS FOR NOISE ABATEMENT.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH A GROUP OF ABOUT TEN OTHER NEIGHBORING HOAS SURROUNDING THE AIRPORT AREA HERE, WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT 2500 HOUSEHOLDS.

AND THEY ALL HAVE A COMMON CONCERN THAT THE NOISE ABATEMENT AT PALOMAR IS A PROBLEM.

WE'VE RECENTLY HAD A COUPLE OF HOA GROUP MEETINGS WITH TERRA LAWSON REMER TO DISCUSS HOW THE AIRPORT NOISE POLLUTION HAS BEEN IMPACTED FOR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT SHE IS SYMPATHETIC TO OUR CAUSE AND I'D LIKE TO THANK HER FOR HER SUPPORT.

I ALSO HAVE DONE SOME OF MY OWN RESEARCH ON SEVERAL OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORING CALIFORNIA AIRPORTS, THE SMALLER ONES, TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DEALING WITH NOISE ABATEMENT AS WELL.

AND I FOUND THAT MANY OF THEM HAVE PROGRAMS CALLED FLY FRIENDLY WHERE THEY AWARD OR RECOGNIZE PILOTS THAT FOLLOW THE QUIET HOURS, THE FLIGHT PATHS.

DOESN'T IT? TWO MINUTES? YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO TOOK THEIR TIME TO MEET WITH ME AND DISCUSS MY APPLICATION.

IT IS VERY EXCITING TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED FOR THIS PAAC SEAT.

I WISH WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE THIS MANY PEOPLE ATTEND PAAC MEETINGS.

LATELY, THESE MEETINGS HAVE HAD AROUND 12 PEOPLE ON THE DAIS AND ONLY 6 TO 8 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE. THESE PAAC MEETINGS USED TO HAPPEN HERE IN THIS CARLSBAD CHAMBER.

MOVING THE PAAC MEETINGS TO SAN MARCOS HAS DISENFRANCHISED CARLSBAD.

I KNOW THAT JASON HABER WORKED HARD TO FIND A PLACE IN CARLSBAD FOR THESE MEETINGS.

I WAS DISMAYED WHEN THE CURRENT PAAC REJECTED THE IDEA.

VOTED DOWN RELOCATING BACK TO CARLSBAD.

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I FIRST SERVED IN 2017 WHERE WE REVIEWED THE PERFORMANCE DATA PRESENTED AT EACH PAAC MEETING REGARDING MONTHLY AIRPORT OPERATIONS.

IN 2019, I SERVED TO REVIEW THE NAP, THE POLICY FOR PALOMAR AIRPORT.

I HAVE AN EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORKINGS OF THE PAC.

IN MARCH OF 2019, WHEN THIS COUNCIL SELECTED THEIR FIRST CARLSBAD REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PAAC, I WAS CHOSEN AS THE ALTERNATE, A DESIGNATION THAT WAS NEVER CLEARLY EXPLAINED TO ME. TONIGHT, I AM HOPING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION FOR THE REASON TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE OF THE NINE SEATS ON THE PAAC.

CARLSBAD IS THE ONLY ONE TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE DESIGNATED.

IF CHOSEN, MY HOPE IS TO BECOME A VOICE FOR CARLSBAD RESIDENTS REGARDING THEIR CONCERNS RELATED TO AVIATION NOISE, LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT POLLUTANTS LEAD AVGAS AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE THREE LANDFILL UNITS.

IT IS IMPORTANT FOR CARLSBAD TO START LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS CONSTITUENTS OF THE AIRPORT. AND APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS.

THANK. THANK YOU. YES.

THANK YOU.

HOPE NELSON FOLLOWED BY CHUCK HUNTER.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO TRY THIS.

I'M HOPE. NELSON CYP4F8 PAST PRESIDENT, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO, WHERE THE AIRPORT IS LOCATED. AS YOU REVIEW CANDIDATES TONIGHT, MY HOPE IS THAT YOU REMEMBER A FEW OF THESE POINTS.

FIRST, FOR MANY YEARS, COUNTY SUPERVISOR BILL HORN AND JIM DESMOND HAVE USED WAIVERS TO COMPLETELY DISREGARD TERM LIMITS ON THE PAAC, WHICH IS HOW THEY HAVE ENSURED THAT THE PAAC HAS BEEN OVERREPRESENTED BY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE AERONAUTICAL INDUSTRY.

IT'S TIME FOR A MORE BALANCED PAAC.

YOU CAN IMPACT THAT CHANGE WITH YOUR VOTES TONIGHT.

SECOND, DUE TO THE LOCATION OF PALOMAR AIRPORT AMONGST HOMES, PARKS, SCHOOLS, LIBRARIES, CHURCHES, GROCERY STORES AND ALL THE PLACES RESIDENTS LIVE THEIR LIVES.

YOU'RE NOT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO COMMUNITY REPRESENTATION.

THIRD, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY FOR ANYONE TO GUARANTEE THE VOICES OF THE RESIDENTS ARE HEARD ON THE PAAC BECAUSE ANY SEAT THAT IS NOT ALLOCATED TO THE CITY'S ARE AT LARGE AND COMPLETELY IN THE HANDS OF THE SUPERVISORS.

THIS IS YOUR ONE AND YOUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THE RESIDENTS VOICES ARE HEARD ON THE PAAC. LAST AND POTENTIALLY MOST IMPORTANT, IT'S CRITICAL THAT OUR STAFF AND COUNCIL ARE PERSISTENT, ENCOURAGING SUPERVISOR DESMOND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EXPEDIENCY TO GET THIS RECOMMENDATION BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND APPROVED.

WHY? SUPERVISOR DESMOND.

WAITING UNTIL THE SUPERVISORS UPDATE THEIR RULES FOR HOW SEATS ON THE PAAC ARE TO BE DIVIDED BETWEEN TWO SUPERVISORY DISTRICTS IS SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE.

REDISTRICTING WAS APPROVED IN JANUARY OF 2022.

THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAD 18 MONTHS TO GET POLICY REVISIONS DONE, SINCE THERE ARE NO POLICY REVISIONS YET.

WE MUST WORK WITH THE CURRENT POLICY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR JOB DONE IS NO REASON TO DELAY OR DENY OUR REPRESENTATION.

I'M SIMPLY SAYING YOU MAY NEED.

THANK YOU HOPE. WE GOT WE GOT THE POINT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, WE'LL TRY THE TWO MINUTE VERSION.

SO THIS IS A CARLSBAD SEAT AND THE JOB IS TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR CARLSBAD AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR CITIZENS.

BECAUSE IT'S A COMEDIAN COALITION.

IT TAKES BUILDING TEAMS AND BUILDING THOSE COALITIONS.

AND I'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD BACKGROUND IN DOING THAT.

I'VE BEEN THE CEO OF MULTIPLE COMPANIES.

I'VE RUN A CONSULTING COMPANY HERE IN CARLSBAD FOR OVER 15 YEARS, AND WE FOCUS ON MARKETING AND HOW TO MARKET IDEAS AND BUILD THOSE KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR OTHERWISE.

I WAS A LOBBYIST FOR A FORTUNE 50 COMPANY FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, AND THAT WAS CONSTANTLY BUILDING COALITIONS ACROSS THE AISLE.

IT WAS A LITTLE EASIER BACK THEN WHEN DEMS AND REPUBLICANS WOULD TALK TO EACH OTHER, BUT IT STILL WAS A GOOD FIGHT.

BUT TO DO THAT, YOU NEED TO HAVE CREDIBILITY.

ALSO, I'M A FIGHTER PILOT, NAVY FIGHTER PILOT.

I HAVE A COMMERCIAL PILOT'S LICENSE.

I HAVE AN UNMANNED AERIAL PILOT'S LICENSE.

I HAVE A DEGREE IN PHYSICS.

AND I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED ON MULTIPLE COMMISSIONS AND AIRPORT STUDIES IN THE PAST, SUCCESSFULLY MADE IT IN A MINUTE.

SO FAR, I GUESS I'M TALKING TOO FAST FOR MY OLD MASSACHUSETTS DAYS.

THE SO IT'S SUCCESSFULLY FROM THERE.

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SO HERE'S A COMMERCIAL. ANYBODY WANTS TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PLEASE SEE ME ON THE WAY OUT.

AND OH, HALF MINUTE LATER, ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? I REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY.

I TALKED TO A FEW OF YOU.

SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW ME, BUT THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF IT.

LET'S DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR CARLSBAD.

BUILD THE COALITIONS, GET THEM TO THINK THE WAY YOU WANT.

I KNOW JOHN ON THERE.

HE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT PAAC FOR MULTIPLE TIMES AND SIX MINUTES.

I'M GOING TO FINISH EARLY. STEVE KLUTE, FOLLOWED BY VICKI SAGE.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I IF SELECTED FOR THIS POSITION, I PLEDGE TO MEET WITH ALL OF YOU.

LISTEN TO YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE AIRPORT AND STAY IN CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION. MY BACKGROUND IS I ALSO WAS A NAVY PILOT AND HOLD AN AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT RATING. AND IN THE NAVY I WAS AT AN ADVANCED JET FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR AND ALSO HAD A DIVISION OF 75 AIR CONTROLLERS, MAINLY NAVY, BUT SOME CIVILIAN AND WAS THE AQS OFFICER AIR INSTALLATION COMPATIBLE USE ZONES, WHICH WAS I THINK, RELEVANT TO THIS BECAUSE IT IS THE COMMUNITY LIAISON TO WORK WITH COMMUNITIES AND REFERENCE THE AIRPORT NOISE IMPACTS ALSO TO PROTECT THE BEST INTERESTS, ESPECIALLY IN SAFETY OF THE AIRPORT. I HAVE, I WAS ALSO AN AIRPORT MANAGER, CITY OF RIALTO AIRPORTS NO LONGER THERE, SO MAYBE THAT WASN'T THE BEST DEAL.

BUT ALL IN ALL, I JUST APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND AND HAVE A CHANCE FOR THIS. AND IF SELECTED, I'LL GIVE IT 100%.

THANK YOU. HELLO, ALL.

VICKI [INAUDIBLE] HERE, CARLSBAD RESIDENT.

BUT I'M SPEAKING AS THE PRESIDENT OF CITIZENS FOR A FRIENDLY AIRPORT C4FA.

THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, KNOWN AS THE PAAC, WAS STARTED A FEW YEARS AFTER THE CITY ANNEXED PALOMAR AIRPORT.

THE PAC WAS CREATED TO PROVIDE A VEHICLE FOR COMMUNITY INPUT FOR ALL THINGS PALOMAR AIRPORT. IT STARTED OFF DOING THAT PRETTY WELL, BUT SOMEHOW, OVER THE YEARS, THE PAAC HAS LOST ITS WAY. IT'S BECOME ANOTHER LOBBYING GROUP FOR ALL THINGS AVIATION, ALL THINGS AIRPORT.

THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN IGNORED AND BRUSHED OFF.

RESIDENTS GO TO MEETING AFTER MEETING AND NOTHING HAPPENS.

THE PAAC HAS BECOME A PLACE WHERE RESIDENTS SPEAK AND NO ONE LISTENS.

IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE, AND THAT CHANGE NEEDS TO BEGIN HERE IN CARLSBAD, THE HOME OF THE AIRPORT. THE PAAC CAN GET BACK TO ITS ROOTS OF REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY ONE APPOINTMENT AT THE TIME. THE CHANGE BEGINS WITH THE FIVE OF YOU LEADING BY EXAMPLE AND APPOINTING SOMEONE TO SPEAK FOR US, THE RESIDENTS, NOT THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY, NOT THE PILOTS, NOT THE BUSINESSES FOR ALL THINGS GOING ON.

WITH THE FAA'S INTRODUCTION OF NEXT GEN NATIONWIDE, FOLKS WHO NEVER HAD PLANES FLYING OVER THEIR HOMES NOW HEAR THOSE JETS AND AIRPLANES DAY AND NIGHT.

THE PAACS ROLE IN REPRESENTING US REGULAR RESIDENTS HAS BECOME ALL THAT MORE IMPORTANT.

FOR TOO LONG NOW, PALOMAR HAS DONE WHAT IT WANTS, WHEN IT WANTS, HOW IT WANTS, WITH NO CONSIDERATION AT ALL FOR THOSE WHO LIVE AROUND IT.

IT'S ABOUT THE PLANES.

IT'S ABOUT THE PILOTS.

IT'S ABOUT THE COMPANIES BASED AT THE AIRPORT.

IT'S TIME FOR PALOMAR AIRPORT TO BE A CONSIDERATE, WELL-MANNERED NEIGHBOR.

A STRONG RESIDENT FOCUSED PAAC CAN BE EFFECTIVE IN HELPING MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

OTHER COMMUNITIES AND OTHER AIRPORTS HAVE DONE SO.

WE CAN TOO. PLEASE APPOINT A PAAC MEMBER WHO PUT THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS FIRST.

THE AIRPORT HAS ENOUGH WELL PAID, WELL FUNDED ADVOCATES LOCALLY AT THE STATE LEVEL AND EVEN WASHINGTON DC.

BELIEVE ME, THOSE SUITS SHOW UP IN FORCE EVERY TIME PALOMAR AIRPORTS ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AGENDA. THANK YOU.

PLEASE CHOOSE WISELY AND PLEASE CHOOSE FOR US YOUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHRIS WRIGHT, FOLLOWED BY MARTIN SCHUBERT.

GOOD EVENING. AS A RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER IN CARLSBAD SINCE 1979, I HAVE WATCHED CLOSELY THE ONGOING ISSUES INVOLVING THE MCCLELLAN-PALOMAR AIRPORT.

I'VE NOTED THE HISTORY OF RESIDENT INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ISSUE.

FIRST BY PASSING ORDINANCE 2153 015 IN AUGUST 1980, AFTER CITIZEN PETITION WAS PRESENTED

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SINCE THEN, I'VE SEEN OTHER COUNCIL ACTIONS WHICH HAVE SHOWN OUR INTEREST.

CITIZEN INTEREST IN PALOMAR AIRPORT, WHICH INCLUDES AN ATTEMPT BY FORMER COUNCILS TO OBTAIN JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT AND THE INVOLVEMENT OF OUR CITIZENS IN THE PUBLIC REVIEW OF THE PALOMAR AIRPORT MASTER PLAN IN 2018.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE FOUR AT LARGE CARLSBAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE AIRPORT BUSINESS SECTOR SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE, ONE WHO HAS SERVED CONTINUOUSLY FOR 29 YEARS, WHO RUNS A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS LOCATED DIRECTLY ON PALOMAR AIRPORT PROPERTY.

ANOTHER IS THE BUSINESS PARTNER OF THIS AFOREMENTIONED MEMBER WHO SERVED FOUR YEARS.

ANOTHER HAS SERVED FOR 15 YEARS AND FINALLY, ONE WHO HAS SERVED FOR SEVEN YEARS.

ALL HAVE FINANCIAL INTERESTS IN THE AIRPORT, AND NONE OF THESE GENTLEMEN REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF REGULAR CARLSBAD RESIDENTS.

IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE NON BUSINESS REPRESENTATION ON THIS COMMITTEE.

PLEASE CONSIDER AN APPOINTMENT OF RESIDENT WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE AIRPORT, WHO KNOWS THE HISTORY OF THE AIRPORT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND CAN PROVIDE EXPERIENCES OF PILOT. SHIRLEY ANDERSON IS ONE SUCH INDIVIDUAL.

SHE IS A LONG TIME RESIDENT, A FORMER LICENSED PILOT AND WAS THE CITY COUNCIL'S CHOICE IN MARCH 2019 AS THE ALTERNATE TO THE APPOINTEE WIN.

KRAMER, WHO JUST RESIGNED THIS YEAR.

WITH YOUR KIND CONSIDERATION, SURELY WOULD DO A GREAT JOB ON THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SHE HAS EXPERIENCE ON TWO SUBCOMMITTEES TO THE PAC, REVIEWING DATA FOR THE MONTHLY AIRPORT PERFORMANCE AND REVIEW.

THANK YOU, CHRIS. CHRISTIAN OSMOND.

YEAH, I WAS FOLLOWING.

YEAH. HELLO, MY NAME IS MARTIN SCHUBERT AND I LIVE IN CARLSBAD.

FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS I'VE BEEN IN THE TRI CITY AREA SINCE THE MID 90S.

I WAS GREW UP IN NORTHERN INDIANA, WENT ON A SCHOOL TRIP IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER IN THE LATE 80S, LEFT FEET, LEFT FEET OF SNOW, SINGLE DIGIT TEMPERATURES TO ARRIVE AT NORTH ISLAND TO BE GREETED BY SUNSHINE AND FEET OF SAND AND 70 DEGREE WEATHER.

I REALIZED I WANTED TO MAKE SAN DIEGO MY HOME.

I GOT THE CHANCE IN THE MID 90S AS A HELICOPTER PILOT SERVING IN THE MARINE CORPS, SERVED 20 YEARS AND CURRENTLY WORK AS A PRIVATE WITH A PRIVATE AIR AMBULANCE COMPANY AS AN INSTRUMENT RATED EMS PILOT.

I'VE BEEN FLYING THE LOCAL AREA FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.

I'VE MADE CARLSBAD MY HOME AND HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE COACHING YOUTH SPORTS, VOLUNTEERING FOR THE MITCHELL THORPE FOUNDATION AND SERVED FIVE YEARS ON HOMEOWNERS BOARDS. I'VE EXTENSIVE CROSS-FUNCTIONAL LEADERSHIP AND TEAM BUILDING EXPERIENCE AND WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE INVOLVED SHAPING THE FUTURE OF THE AIRPORT AND ITS IMPACT WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND I HUMBLY REQUEST YOUR NOMINATION FOR THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND IT'S FROM WHAT'S BEEN STATED FROM OTHER PEOPLE.

I CURRENTLY FLY IN THE AREA AND I'M ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A BALANCE BETWEEN AIRPORT AND COMMUNITY. SO I'M LOOKED LIKE I'M THAT PERSON TO TRY TO DO THAT.

SO THANK YOU. CHRISTIAN OSMOND.

HI THERE. THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR US OUT.

MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN OSMOND.

IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS TO POTENTIALLY BE IN THIS ROLE.

I'M A VETERINARY SURGEON.

I WORK IN CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA [INAUDIBLE] SPECIALISTS.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD SINCE 2008.

SO KIND OF VERY FAMILIAR WITH WITH KIND OF THE LAY OF THE LAND, THE AIRPORT OPERATIONS.

I'VE BEEN A PRIVATE PILOT FOR A LONG TIME NOW.

I STARTED FLYING WHEN I WAS 15 AND GOT MY LICENSE WHEN I WAS 17.

I'M INSTRUMENT RATED.

I DON'T REALLY CONSIDER MYSELF IN ONE CAMP OR ANOTHER CAMP.

I GUESS EVEN JUST LISTENING TO PEOPLE TALK, IT'S INTERESTING.

I CAN GET THAT IMPRESSION LIKE, OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ANTI NOISE OR YOU'RE PRO AIRPORT OR YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, GUNG HO FLIER.

I DON'T REALLY CONSIDER MYSELF ANY OF THE ABOVE.

I THINK I'M ALL OF THE ABOVE.

I READ THROUGH THE THE NEWSLETTER THAT I GET ON ON CARLSBAD'S AGENDAS AND WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I JUST SAW THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I'M LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK AS A CITIZEN OF CARLSBAD, I DON'T LIKE NOISE ANY MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.

I LIKE TO SLEEP WELL AND I ALSO ENJOY FLYING.

I THINK THE AIRPORT'S A HUGE ASSET TO ALL OF US, REPRESENTS A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT TO OUR LIFE. ANY WAY YOU TURN IT, WHETHER IT'S GETTING AN EASY FLIGHT UP TO VEGAS OR WHETHER IT'S A

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BUT I WOULD REALLY TRY TO REPRESENT ALL ASPECTS OF THINGS, TREAT THINGS SCIENTIFICALLY LIKE I WOULD IN MY DAY JOB, LISTEN TO THE ISSUES, SEE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. AGAIN, I DON'T CONSIDER MYSELF ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

I'M AN OPEN BOOK, HAPPY TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD.

SO THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. KIND OF HUMBLED BY THE BACKGROUNDS OF SOME OF THESE APPLICANTS.

OH, MY GOSH. I WROTE DOWN FIGHTER PILOTS, SURGEON, CEO.

WOW. BUT I'M ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT BEING THE MAYOR IS I GET TO RUN THE MEETING, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THE FIRST MOTION OF WHO I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE.

SHIRLEY ANDERSON WAS THE ALTERNATE LAST TIME.

AND BY THE WAY, THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT'S THE ROLE OF THE ALTERNATE? THAT WAS IN CASE THE OUR FIRST CHOICE WAS REJECTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND WE HAD TO FALL BACK ON SOMEBODY WE COULD PRESENT TO THEM.

BUT SHIRLEY'S BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THIS.

IF WE HAD TO PICK SOMEBODY WHO HAS A LONG TERM ATTENDANCE AT ALL OF THE MEETINGS, NOT A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE ON THE TOPIC AND INVOLVEMENT, IT WOULD BE SHIRLEY.

AND SO MY FIRST RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE MOTION TO APPOINT SHIRLEY ANDERSON TO THIS.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT WAS QUICK AND EASY. SECONDLY, FOR THE ALTERNATE, GARY GREENING, I WOULD SAY IS RIGHT THERE WITH THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS AS SHIRLEY.

MAYBE HE HASN'T BEEN QUITE AS VOCAL BUT IS ATTENDING ALL THE MEETINGS.

TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE REPRESENTING THE HOA'S IN THE AREA AND HAS A LONG TERM INVOLVEMENT AND I WOULD RECOMMEND GARY AS OUR ALTERNATE. SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

MAN, THAT WAS EASY. I WISH ALL OF OUR MEETINGS WENT THAT SMOOTHLY.

THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS, SHIRLEY.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 12, CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

[12. UPDATE ON THE CITY’S RESPONSE TO THE LOCAL TRAFFIC SAFETY EMERGENCY AND OPTION TO EXTEND THE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS ]

GENTLEMEN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS GEOFF PATNOE, YOUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

AND WITH ME AT THE TABLE IS TOM FRANK, TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER.

TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE WITH A REPORT ON THE CITY'S ACTIONS IN RESPONSE TO THE LOCAL TRAFFIC EMERGENCY AND TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE EMERGENCY SHOULD BE EXTENDED. I'LL START WITH AN UPDATE ON OUR RESPONSE ACTIONS.

BY NOW. I THINK EVERYONE IN CARLSBAD KNOWS ABOUT THE THREE E'S, OR AT LEAST I HOPE THEY DO. THIS, OF COURSE, REFERS TO THE CITY TAKING A THREE PRONGED APPROACH TO TRAFFIC SAFETY, EDUCATION, ENGINEERING AND ENFORCEMENT.

I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT TONIGHT I'LL BE GOING OVER JUST SOME OF THE DOZENS OF ACTIONS OUR SAFE STREETS TOGETHER PLAN THAT ARE ACTIONS IN OUR SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN, WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED LAST SEPTEMBER.

STARTING WITH EDUCATION, STAFF CONTINUED TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY AND ENCOURAGE SAFE ROADWAY BEHAVIORS.

TO DATE, COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE TAKEN NEARLY 10,000 SEPARATE ACTIONS, DEMONSTRATING THEIR COMMITMENT TO TRAFFIC SAFETY.

WE CONTINUE TO UTILIZE ALL CITY COMMUNICATION CHANNELS TO REACH THE PUBLIC WITH TRAFFIC SAFETY MESSAGES WITH AN IMPRESSIVE 2.7 MILLION VIEWS OF OUR CONTENT SINCE THE EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED.

AND THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICIALS RECENTLY NAMED OUR SAFER STREETS TOGETHER EDUCATION CAMPAIGN AS THE BEST PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPAIGN IN CALIFORNIA, SOMETHING I THINK WE COULD ALL BE PROUD OF.

WORKING WITH OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS ALSO REMAINS A TOP PRIORITY.

THIS WEEK WE LAUNCHED A SERIES OF BACK TO SCHOOL E-BIKE SAFETY COURSES.

THIS IS A RESULT OF OUR COLLABORATION WITH ALL FOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS SERVING CARLSBAD.

CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT ANNOUNCED A NEW PERMIT PROGRAM THAT, STARTING THIS FALL, WILL REQUIRE ANYBODY PARKING A BIKE OR E-BIKE ON CAMPUS TO COMPLETE THIS SAFETY TRAINING COURSE. WE HAD ALMOST 300 PARTICIPANTS ON THE VERY FIRST DAY.

THE OTHER DISTRICTS ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN A SIMILAR PROGRAM AND WE ARE OFFERING THESE

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SO THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION AND WILL BE READY.

SO WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE STUDENTS FROM ALL FOUR DISTRICTS PARTICIPATE.

ON THE ENGINEERING FRONT, CITY STAFF CONTINUED TO MAKE PROGRESS ON PROJECTS THAT CHANGE THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR ROADS, WHICH PROMOTE SAFE USE OF THE ROADS.

FOR THE FINAL E HERE YOU CAN SEE RECENT ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY WITH SUMMER IN FULL SWING, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OUT AT HIGH COLLISION AREAS, HELPING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE ROAD. I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO FOCUS ON EDUCATION WHENEVER POSSIBLE, RATHER THAN USING CITATIONS AS THE ONLY TOOL.

LASTLY, WE'RE CONTINUING TO GATHER DATA AND TRACK RESULTS OF OUR EFFORTS.

AS OF OUR LAST REPORT, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE EMERGENCY INJURY, COLLISIONS ARE DOWN 19% ACROSS ALL MODES OF TRAVEL.

THIS WAS BEFORE SUMMER, WHICH WE KNOW IS A BUSY TIME ON OUR ROADS AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE FALL ONCE A FULL YEAR OF DATA IS AVAILABLE.

BEFORE WRAPPING UP, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TERRIBLE TRAGEDY THAT OCCURRED LAST MONTH IN ENCINITAS WHEN A YOUNG E-BIKE RIDER WAS KILLED IN A COLLISION.

THIS WAS A SOBERING REMINDER OF WHAT IS AT STAKE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC SAFETY.

ENCINITAS ENDED UP DECLARING A LOCAL EMERGENCY TO ADDRESS E-BIKE SAFETY, AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS SUPPORTING THEM HOWEVER WE CAN.

AND WE'RE ALSO SHARING OUR MATERIALS AND PROGRAMS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE BENEFIT OF OUR EXPERIENCE. AND OF COURSE, OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO THIS YOUNG MAN'S FAMILY AND THE ENTIRE ENCINITAS COMMUNITY. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

THE RECOMMENDED ACTION TODAY ARE TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AND CONSIDER WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND OR END THE EMERGENCY SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO EXTEND THE EMERGENCY.

IT WOULD END ON SEPTEMBER 8TH UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL VOTES TO EXTEND IT ON OR BEFORE THAT DATE. WE PLAN TO RETURN IN OCTOBER WHEN WE HAVE A FULL YEAR OF DATA WITH A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT ON THE EMERGENCY. THANK YOU.

AND STAFF ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES.

BARBARA DIAMOND, FOLLOWED BY LINDA DANIELS.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 12.

SORRY, I'M ONE OFF.

WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.

MS. BHAT-PATEL. YES.

THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CLEARLY WE TOOK THE LEAD ON AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'VE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT TAKES ALL OF US, AND I KNOW EVERYONE'S MAKING THOSE EFFORTS TO TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR COMMUNITY.

AND OF COURSE, THE COUNCIL MOVED FORWARD SOME OF THESE ITEMS. THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY ALSO TOUCH ON WAS THE PERMIT PROGRAM THAT YOU ALL MENTIONED. REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT TO ROLL OUT.

JUST ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO ROLL OUT SOME MORE EDUCATION TO FOLKS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE RIDING SAFELY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SO CRITICAL FOR US TO CAPTURE THE DATA IN THE SUMMER. SO I THINK FOR ME, LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THIS UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

AND LIKE YOU ALL SAID, SEEING THAT REPORT OUT TO SEE HOW IT WENT FOR THAT FULL YEAR.

SO WITH WITH THAT, I CAN MAKE THAT MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, OF COURSE, PENDING MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS. MS..

ACOSTA. GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANKS AGAIN TO STAFF FOR THIS WONDERFUL APPROACH WITH THE THREE AREAS THE ENGINEERING, THE ENFORCEMENT AND THE EDUCATION.

BECAUSE PEOPLE OFTEN ASK, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? ARE YOU JUST TICKETING MORE PEOPLE? HOW ARE YOU SLOWING PEOPLE DOWN? ARE YOU JUST MARKETING? AND IT'S LIKE, NO, WE'VE GOT THIS FULL FLEDGED PLAN.

SO I'M SO PROUD THAT WE HAD THIS VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND STRATEGIC PLAN TO DO WORK MORE WORK AROUND STREET SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY, SO MUCH SO THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE ABLE TO COPY AND IMITATE WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE.

SO THANK YOU. I DO SUPPORT THE FULL YEAR OF COLLECTION OF DATA AND DOING THIS THIS WORK FOR THE FULL YEAR. I ALSO JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE STUDENTS WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING AND EVERY YEAR TYPE OF EDUCATION, THAT EVERY YEAR AS STUDENTS GO BACK TO SCHOOL, THERE'S A WHOLE NEW CLASS THAT WE NEED TO TO REMIND ABOUT STREET SAFETY AND NEW DRIVERS ON THE ROAD AND NEW E-BIKES BEING GIVEN AS GIFTS AND SUCH OVER THE YEARS.

SO LASTLY, AT THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, WE TALKED THIS MORNING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR LICENSING FOR E-BIKES.

AND JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO HERE AT THE CITY, THE CITY LEVEL, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE STATE IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERING.

SO WE JUST WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED AT THE STATE LEVEL. PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN THIS YEAR, BUT IT HAS IT'S BEING EVALUATED AND IT MIGHT BE DISCUSSED IN MORE SERIOUSNESS THIS NEXT

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SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND I SUPPORT THIS.

MS. BURKHOLDER YEAH, THANK YOU.

MY COLLEAGUE REALLY JUST SAID WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

BUT ALSO JUST TO NOTE FOR FOLKS HERE IN CARLSBAD, IT'S ACTUALLY OUR ASSEMBLY MEMBER, TASHA HORVATH. TASHA BONNER, WHO IS PUTTING FORTH THIS LEGISLATION TO HAVE LICENSURE FOR THE E-BIKES.

AND SO SHE'S FROM ENCINITAS.

SO WE KNOW THAT THE THIS STORY RESONATES WITH HER, BUT SHE'S ALSO BEEN A GREAT ADVOCATE FOR STUDENTS ON E-BIKES, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS AS WELL.

A YEAR OF DATA IS GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE IN OCTOBER, I THINK YOU SAID WE HEAR IT AGAIN. SO THANK YOU, MISS LUNA.

THANK YOU.

YOU GUYS HAVE ALL KINDS OF STATISTICS TO SHOW THAT THIS IS WORKING WELL.

I HAVE MY OWN WAY OF SEEING IF IT WORKS WELL.

PASSENGERS IN MY CAR AND I USED TO HAVE A GAME FIND A YOUTH ON AN E-BIKE WEARING A HELMET, AND IT WAS HARD TO FIND.

NOW THE GAME HAS CHANGED TO FIND A YOUTH ON AN E-BIKE WHO'S NOT WEARING A HELMET.

NOW THAT'S HARD TO FIND.

IT JUST SHOWS JUST THAT THAT SMALL LITTLE DIFFERENCE SHOWS THAT THIS REALLY WORKED.

AND FOR THAT, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

THANKS TO THE HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK OUR POLICE OFFICERS HAVE DONE, STOPPING YOUTH AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T GET IT.

YOUTH CAN GET A TICKET, BUT IT DOESN'T.

IT ISN'T LIKE A TICKET ADULTS GET.

IT'S A TICKET THAT ALLOWS THEM TO GET OUT OF THE TICKET BY ATTENDING THE TRAFFIC SAFETY CLASS. AND I THINK THAT WAS A REMARKABLY GOOD IDEA.

AND THE OFFICERS ARE SPENDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME ON IT, AND I THINK IT'S PAYING OFF. SO FOR THAT, THANK YOU.

AND WE HAVE A MOTION.

MS.. BHAT-PATEL, I JUST HAVE A ONE QUICK QUESTION THAT I REMEMBERED THAT SOMEBODY HAD ASKED ME, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST IT SHOULD BE REALLY QUICK WITH REGARDS TO THE PERMIT TRAINING THAT WILL BE PROVIDED.

WILL IT ALSO BE PROVIDED IN SPANISH KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A LARGE POPULATION THAT ONLY MAY SPEAK SPANISH? THANKS, CHIEF.

OUR POLICE CHIEF TO RESPOND TO TRAINING.

QUESTION. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

MICKEY WILLIAMS HAVE THE HONOR TO SERVE AS CHIEF CHIEF OF POLICE.

SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS A COURSE SPECIFICALLY SET OUT.

TO BE PROVIDED IN SPANISH.

HOWEVER, IF SOMEBODY HAS A DESIRE TO HAVE THE INFORMATION PRESENTED TO THEM, WE HAVE THE ABILITY WITH TRANSLATORS AND OFFICERS THAT ARE CROSS-TRAINED IN SPANISH TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO THEM SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION.

ALL THEY WOULD NEED TO DO IS REACH OUT TO US.

THEY CAN EITHER SEND US AN EMAIL VIA OUR WEBSITE, GIVE US A CALL AND LET US KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A SPANISH SPEAKER THAT WOULD LIKE ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION.

WE WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE THE EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE INFORMATION.

GREAT. THANK YOU. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT IN OUR PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS WE WILL INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION. SO PLEASE SLIDE YOUR MICROPHONE OVER TO THE CHIEF.

THE ONE HE'S GOT IS DEFECTIVE.

THANK YOU. WE'LL LIKELY INCLUDE THAT IN THE PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS, I'M ASSUMING, SO THAT FOLKS KNOW WHERE TO OUTREACH IF THEY DO NEED THAT.

YES. AS WE PUT OUT THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE COURSES, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO MAKE A POINT TO INDICATE THAT IF THERE IS A SPANISH SPEAKER, THAT THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR LETTING ME ASK THAT QUESTION.

AND WITH THAT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION IN THIS ITEM.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

[13. FOLLOW-UP ON ELECTRIFICATION OF NEW BUILDINGS IN CARLSBAD]

GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A FOLLOW UP ON ELECTRIFICATION OF NEW BUILDINGS IN CARLSBAD.

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION IS OUR SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER, KATIE HENDRICK, AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, CINDY MCMAHON.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KATIE HENDRICK.

I AM A SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER AND THE CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ADMINISTRATOR.

AND I WILL BE PRESENTING A FOLLOW UP ON ELECTRIFICATION OF NEW BUILDINGS IN CARLSBAD.

IN THIS PRESENTATION. I'LL START WITH THE BACKGROUND OF THE ITEM.

SHARE UPDATES TO CASE LAW SINCE THE MAY 9TH, 2023 COUNCIL ITEM ON THIS SAME TOPIC PROVIDE OPTIONS AND THE RECOMMENDED ACTION.

FOR BACKGROUND, ON APRIL 19TH, 2022, A MINUTE MOTION WAS MADE BY CITY COUNCIL DURING AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM ON ELECTRIFICATION OF NEW BUILDINGS.

THAT MOTION DIRECTED STAFF TO QUOTE, RESEARCH OPTIONS TO ADD AN ORDINANCE ADDRESSING ELECTRIFICATION IN NEW BUILDINGS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO THE NEXT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN DRAFT IN 2023, END QUOTE.

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ON MAY 9TH, 2023, STAFF PRESENTED THE REPORT, AS WELL AS INFORMATION REGARDING THE RECENT NINTH CIRCUIT RULING IN THE CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION VERSUS CITY OF BERKELEY CASE.

DURING THAT ITEM, A MINUTE MOTION WAS MADE TO RETURN ON JULY 11TH, 2023, WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION.

AND I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO CINDY MCMAHON, THE CITY ATTORNEY, TO COVER THE NEXT SLIDE.

THANK YOU. SO BY WAY OF RECAP, THE CITY OF BERKELEY CASE INVOLVED AN ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY PROHIBITED GAS PIPING IN NEW BUILDINGS.

AND THAT ORDINANCE WAS CHALLENGED IN THE NINTH CIRCUIT AND WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO APPEAL IN THE NINTH CIRCUIT. NINTH CIRCUIT DECIDED THAT AN ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS COVERED APPLIANCES AND PROBABLY MOST COMMONLY GAS STOVES FROM USING NATURAL GAS BY BANNING NATURAL GAS PIPING IN NEW BUILDINGS IS PREEMPTED BY FEDERAL LAW.

THAT IS ITS SPECIFIC READING SPECIFIC TO THE BERKELEY ORDINANCE.

ITS BROADEST POSSIBLE READING, THOUGH WHEN YOU READ THE OPINION IS IT COULD BE READ TO BE THAT ANY ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS A GAS APPLIANCE FROM USING GAS IS PREEMPTED FROM BY FEDERAL LAW BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL BREADTH OF THAT RULING. BERKELEY AND AMONG OTHER REASONS, BERKELEY DID FILE A PETITION FOR REHEARING.

THAT PETITION WAS FILED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.

WHAT THAT MEANS, IF THE PETITION IS GRANTED, IS THAT THAT MATTER WILL BE HEARD BY A LARGER PANEL OF JUDGES.

IT'S CURRENTLY HAS BEEN HEARD BY A PANEL OF THREE JUDGES.

IF THE PETITION FOR REHEARING IS GRANTED, IT WILL BE HEARD BY A PANEL OF 11 JUDGES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THE COURT CAN DO WHEN IT GETS THIS PETITION IS GIVE THE OTHER SIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND, WHICH IT HAS DONE, AND IT HAS ALLOWED THE OTHER SIDE AN OPPORTUNITY OR HAS GIVEN THEM UNTIL AUGUST 10TH OF THIS YEAR TO FILE THEIR RESPONSE.

AND THAT INFORMATION IS CURRENT AS OF 4:00 PM THIS AFTERNOON.

AFTER THE RESPONSE COMES IN, WE COULD KNOW PRETTY QUICKLY WHETHER THE COURT IS GOING TO GRANT THE PETITION FOR REHEARING OR IT CAN TAKE A WHILE.

AND BY WAY OF COMPARISON, THERE WAS RECENTLY A PETITION FOR REHEARING DECIDED IN A IN, I WOULD SAY COMPARABLY IN A CASE OF COMPARABLE PUBLIC INTEREST. AND IT TOOK THE COURT, IN THAT CASE NINE MONTHS TO DECIDE WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO GRANT A PETITION FOR REHEARING.

SO IT CAN TAKE A WHILE.

THE COURT HAS OPTIONS TO GIVE ITSELF MORE TIME TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ETA ON WHEN WE'LL KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THAT CASE.

AND THAT'S THE UPDATE. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MS..

HENDRICK TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU.

THE SLIDE HAS SOME UPDATES ON WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE REGION HAVE DONE SINCE THE NINTH CIRCUIT RULING.

THE CITY OF ENCINITAS, WHICH HAD ADOPTED A NATURAL GAS BAN ORDINANCE, HAS RECENTLY SUSPENDED THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE.

THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO DOES NOT HAVE AN ELECTRIFICATION REACH CODE ADOPTED, BUT THEY ARE CONTINUING WITH STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH AROUND THE POSSIBILITY OF IT.

THE CITY OF DEL MAR SIMILARLY DOES NOT HAVE AN ELECTRIFICATION REACH CODE ADOPTED, BUT THEY HAVE PAUSED WORK.

THE CITY OF LA MESA AGAIN, NO ELECTRIFICATION REACH CODE PASSED THERE, BUT THEY DO HAVE A BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE.

THIS SUBCOMMITTEE EXPIRES IN AUGUST AND THEY DO HAVE AN ITEM TO CONSIDER EXTENDING IT OR LETTING IT SUNSET AT THAT TIME.

AND LAST, THE CITY OF SOLANA BEACH'S UPDATED REACH CODE WAS APPROVED BY THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION IN MID-JUNE.

THE CITY IS NOW EVALUATING POTENTIAL IMPACTS THAT THE NINTH CIRCUIT DECISION HAS ON THAT ORDINANCE. STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

AND THESE ARE THE SAME OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THE MAY 9TH, 2023 MEETING.

CONTINUE IMPLEMENTING COUNCIL'S APRIL 19TH, 2022 MOTION.

TAKE NO FURTHER ACTION.

WAIT FOR UPDATES TO THE CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION VERSUS CITY OF BERKELEY CASE.

OR PROCEED WITH OTHER DIRECTION PROVIDED BY COUNCIL.

THE RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THIS ITEM IS TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE, REVIEW OPTIONS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH ELECTRIFICATION OPTIONS IN NEW BUILDINGS IN THE NEXT DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE IN 2023 AND WE WILL NOW BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES. BARBARA DIAMOND.

LINDA DANIELS.

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I'M BARBARA DIAMOND AND I'VE LIVED IN CARLSBAD FOR 25 YEARS NOW.

AND I'M ALSO A CONCERNED CITIZEN.

I HOPE I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT WE HAVE A TIME TARGET OF 2040. TAKE A FEW YEARS FOR 0GPH0.

SO SINCE THE 80S, WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.

BUT NOT ONLY HAS THERE BEEN NO ACTION, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN MANY MORE GREENHOUSE GASES ADDED TO THE ENVIRONMENT, AND PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF COUNTRIES HAVE MADE PLEDGES TO REDUCE THEIR EMISSIONS.

SO. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SOME PLANS TO REDUCE THE EMISSIONS.

AND BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION COULD DO A LOT TOWARDS THESE GOALS.

AND NOT ONLY IS IT GOOD FOR THAT, BUT IT'S GOOD FOR SOCIETY IN GENERAL.

FOR EXAMPLE, IT WOULD MITIGATE CLIMATE CHANGE, IMPROVE PUBLIC HEALTH, IMPROVE GENERAL EFFICIENCY AND RELIANCE, PROMOTE RENEWABLE ENERGY, JOB CREATION, COST SAVINGS, LONG TERM READINESS FOR CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE.

THE BERKELEY CASE HAS HAD DELAYED THE PROGRESS AND ADOPTION OF WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS CALLED AN ELECTRIC PERFORMANCE.

PREFERRED ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW CARLSBAD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NECESSARY REACH CODES AND ORDINANCES.

TO ME, THE COUNCIL SHOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS ELECTRIC PREFERRED ORDINANCE.

PLEASE SAY YOU AGREE WITH ME BY CASTING AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.

MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS LINDA DANIELS.

I'VE LIVED IN CARLSBAD FOR OVER TEN YEARS.

I'VE RECENTLY ELECTRIFIED MY HOME WITH A HEAT PUMP WATER HEATER, A HEAT PUMP FURNACE AND AN INDUCTION STOVE. I'VE DRIVEN FULLY ELECTRIC CARS FOR OVER TEN YEARS.

I'M ON OUR CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE'S ADVISORY COUNCIL AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE SAN DIEGO BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION COALITION ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT. IN AN EFFORT TO ELECTRIFY OUR SCHOOLS, I'VE MET WITH TWO OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. THE OTHER TWO ARE HAVING SURGERY THIS SUMMER, SO IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO MEET WITH THEM, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO TRY. IT TURNS OUT THAT BURNING GAS IN OUR HOMES AND SCHOOLS AND WORKPLACES IS REALLY BAD.

IT'S BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH, IS BAD FOR SAFETY AND IS BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

METHANE. NITROUS OXIDE NOT SO GOOD.

AND IT'S ALSO BAD FOR YOUR WALLET.

I HAVE A FRIEND WHO ON HER BOLT, IT SAYS FREE AT LAST, NO GAS.

MINE SAYS SAVING THE PLANET ONE EV AT A TIME.

THE DEVELOPER AT THE END OF ROOSEVELT AT LAGUNA ON LAGUNA SAVED HIMSELF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BY NOT PUTTING IN GAS LINES TO THE HOMES.

THEY'RE ALL ELECTRIC. IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE FOR DEVELOPERS.

GIVE THE DEVELOPERS THE CHOICE TO CHOOSE ALL ELECTRIC HOMES.

ONCE THE DEVELOPER CAN LOOK INTO THE COSTS, MAYBE THEY WILL NOT PUT ANY GAS LINES IN.

PLEASE PASS AN ORDINANCE FOR ELECTRIC PREFERRED FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU. MICHAEL MCMAHON, FOLLOWED BY GLENN BERNARD.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF.

I'M MICHAEL MCMAHON, A TEN YEAR RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD.

THIS SUMMER IS STARTING OUT WITH WEATHER RELATED TEMPERATURE EXTREMES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND WE'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED SO MANY CONSECUTIVE DAY AND NIGHT TIME HIGH TEMPERATURES ACROSS OUR SOUTH AND NORTHWEST.

IN FACT, FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE, GLOBAL TEMPERATURE MEASUREMENTS COMPILED BY EARTH'S CLIMATOLOGIST WERE THE HIGHEST FOR ANY MONTH EVER RECORDED. AS DECLARED BY OR AS DECLARED BY OUR CITY.

WE ARE IN A CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND IT IS HERE NOW.

WELL, WE CAN'T ACT ON A GLOBAL BASIS.

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OUR CITY IS STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

ON REDUCING TRANSPORTATION MILES WITH A SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.

CLEANER ELECTRICITY THROUGH CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE.

BUT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS MORE ON OUR BUILDINGS, WHICH EMIT 30% OF THE CITY'S TOTAL GREENHOUSE GASES.

AND IF, AS IT STATES IN OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS 52% BY 2035, WHICH IS 12 YEARS AWAY. BUILDINGS NEED TO PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THAT REDUCTION.

AT OUR MAY 9TH COUNCIL MEETING, A CLEAR PATHWAY TO NEW BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION WAS PRESENTED AS AN OPTION BY OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ADMINISTRATOR.

THE VIABLE PATH FREE OF ANY OUTSTANDING LITIGATION WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY OUR CITY'S PARTNER, EPIC.

SO TONIGHT, LET'S ACT ON THAT OPTION, WHICH, AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE OTHER SPEAKERS, AN ELECTRICAL AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED ORDINANCE FOR NEW BUILDING CONSTRUCTION. THANK YOU. GLENN BERNARD.

PAGE TICINO, FOLLOWED BY MIKE BORRELLO.

HI, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF.

I'M PAIGE GIACINO.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS.

BACK IN MAY, YOU HEARD KATIE GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE POSSIBILITY OF BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION ORDINANCE.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR RELUCTANCE TO GO FORWARD.

SO YOU TOOK A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH BECAUSE OF THE BERKELEY GAS BAN LITIGATION.

SO WE'RE KIND OF STUCK HERE RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M KIND OF WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME.

SO I WANT TO KIND OF REVIEW WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO SEPTEMBER 2015, THE CARLSBAD ADOPTS ITS CLIMATE ACTION PLAN 2019.

CARLSBAD IS THE FIRST IN THE STATE TO ADOPT A REACH CODE FOR WATER HEATERS.

CARLSBAD AND THEN THE SAME YEAR THE THIS COUNCIL VOTES TO FORM THE CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE, WHICH GREATLY IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. AND THIS MEASURE WAS ADDED THE SAME YEAR TO OUR UPDATED CAP.

THEN IN 2021, THE COUNCIL PASSED A CLIMATE EMERGENCY RESOLUTION WHICH INCLUDES LANGUAGE TO SUPPORT BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION.

HERE WE ARE ALMOST TWO YEARS LATER AND FOUR YEARS SINCE WE'VE REALLY ENACTED ANY CLIMATE CHANGE ORDINANCES.

SOME COULD ARGUE THAT THE CITY IS EVEN BACKSLIDING ON THEIR COMMITMENT.

FULL ELECTRIFICATION AND NEW BUILDINGS MAY NOT BE THE BEST APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

INSTEAD, OUR CARLSBAD SIERRA CLUB TEAM SUGGESTS YOU DRAFT DIRECT STAFF TO COME UP WITH AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED ORDINANCE AND NEW BUILDINGS NOW AND NOT WAIT FOR THE NEW CAP REVISION.

THIS INTERIM MEASURE WILL ALLOW CONTRACTORS, DEVELOPERS AND HOMEOWNERS TO BECOME EDUCATED IN THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND CLIMATE BENEFITS OF BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION, WHICH IS SORELY NEEDED. OUR TEAM'S OUTREACH ON THIS SUBJECT INDICATES MOST RESIDENTS HAVE NO IDEA WHY ELECTRIFICATION IS IMPORTANT.

PLEASE SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION RATHER THAN SITTING ON YOUR HANDS AND DOING NOTHING AND LETTING THE CLIMATE SITUATION DETERIORATE.

THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE TO PASSING AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU. MIKE BORYLA.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

MS.. LUNA. KATIE, I JUST HAVE A QUICK ONE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED ORDINANCE INSTEAD OF SITTING ON OUR HANDS. HOWEVER, I'M I'M BEFUDDLED BY THE FACT THAT AS WE'RE ELECTRIFYING, YOU KNOW, LAST SUMMER, IT'S DON'T PLUG YOUR EVS IN, CUT YOUR ELECTRIC USE DOWN.

WE DON'T HAVE A GRID SUPPORT SYSTEM FOR THIS.

SO WOULD YOU ENLIGHTEN ME AND TELL ME IF THAT'S CHANGED AT ALL? YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

THE REPORT THAT EPIC PREPARED FOR THE MAY 9TH ITEM DID GET INTO GRID RELIABILITY, AND THE REPORT FOUND THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY CONCERNS ABOUT GRID RELIABILITY AS IT RELATES TO ELECTRIFYING NEW BUILDINGS IN THE CITY. SO. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MS..

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AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE WE DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE, WE DECIDED TO WAIT FOR THE BERKELEY DECISION BECAUSE THERE WAS GOING TO BE THIS POTENTIAL REVIEW BY A LARGER PANEL OF JUDGES.

AND FROM THE PRESENTATION TODAY, WE LEARNED THAT THAT WAS PUSHED, SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE DONE BY TODAY. THAT'S WHY WE PICKED TODAY TO HAVE THE MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS.

SO I AM WONDERING.

DID WE? MAYBE YOU COULD REFRESH MY MEMORY.

DID WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WAS OFFERED IN TERMS OF A CLIMATE AND ELECTRIC PREFERRED OPTION? DID WE HAVE ANY KIND OF DRAFT LANGUAGE OR WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD INITIATE NOW? I CAN'T REMEMBER IF AS PART OF THE LAST MOTION, THE LAST SORRY, THE LAST DISCUSSION, WHETHER WE HAD SOMETHING RELATED TO CLIMATE PREFERRED I'M SORRY, ELECTRIC PREFERRED.

I'M GETTING MY WORDS MESSED UP. YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING DRAFTED RELATED TO AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED ORDINANCE.

OKAY. BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY WAS AROUND THAT AND IT ALMOST WAS KIND OF LIKE, AM I MISSING SOMETHING? DID WE HAVE AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED ORDINANCE DRAFTED OR WAS THIS AN OPTION? IT'S NOT. IT'S JUST A GREAT IDEA FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT'S COME TO US.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE AS I RECALL FROM THAT CONVERSATION, WE WERE REALLY DEPENDENT ON THAT BERKELEY DECISION AND WE WERE WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO CHANGE BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING AND NOW.

SO SINCE IT HASN'T, I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THIS ELECTRIC PREFERRED ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING AND I DON'T WANT THE PERFECT TO BE THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD.

I DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR SOMETHING THAT MAY TAKE A VERY LONG TIME.

I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME PROGRESS NOW.

AND THE ELECTRIC PREFERRED OPTION MIGHT BE THAT.

AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE.

WHEN IS THAT GOING TO COME TO US? YES. THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING THE CANDIDATE MEASURES TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S THE LIST OF MEASURES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER FOR INCLUSION IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE.

JUST STATING THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE FORMAL CAPITAL DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.

OKAY. SO IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL RECEIVE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AND CHOOSE, AND THEN THEY WILL BE PUT INTO A DRAFT AND WE'LL VOTE ON THAT.

SO WHAT IS THE FULL TIMELINE? LITTLE DRAFT, LITTLE DRAFT, CAPITAL DRAFT AND THEN FINAL? WHEN IS THAT? IF EVERYTHING CONTINUES TO STAY ON SCHEDULE, IT'S LOOKING LIKE SPRING SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR FOR ADOPTION.

OKAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OCTOBER TO LOOK AT VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF, MAKE SOME DECISIONS, AND THEN IN THE SPRING, SOMETIME WE WILL FINALIZE OUR UPDATE OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. YES.

THERE WILL ALSO BE A SEQUEL DOCUMENT THAT HAS TO GO OUT FOR REVIEW ALONG WITH THE UPDATED DRAFT. SO IN BETWEEN OCTOBER AND ADOPTION, THAT WILL BE OCCURRING.

SO THAT'S WHY IT TAKES SO LONG.

OKAY. GOT IT. SO POSSIBLY MAY 20TH, 24, WE'RE LOOKING AT.

OKAY, WELL, LET'S JUST KIND OF UNDERSCORES THE IDEA THAT IT'S BETTER NOT TO JUST WAIT FOR A BERKELEY DECISION AND WAIT FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, BUT TO TAKE SOME ACTION NOW. SO I DEFINITELY AM LEANING TOWARD THIS ELECTRIC ELECTRIC PREFERRED ORDINANCE AS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, MAY WE PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT WOULD BE ENTAILED IN ELECTRIC PREFERRED? SO FIRST OFF, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT WITH AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED, THE DEVIL IS A LITTLE BIT IN THE DETAILS, AS THEY SAY, BECAUSE THE CASE THAT WE'RE UNDER IS ANY ORDINANCE THAT HAS THE EFFECT OF PREVENTING A GAS APPLIANCE FROM USING GAS.

SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE HOW THE PREFERENCE IS STRUCTURED AND WHETHER SOMEONE WOULD VIEW THAT AS HAVING THE EFFECT OF PREVENTING A GAS APPLIANCE FROM USING GAS.

SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT A RISK FREE OPTION.

IT MAY BE AN OPTION THAT WE CAN PURSUE, BUT IT'S IT'S IN THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND THEN MAYBE MS..

HENDRICK MAY HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU ON THE TIME PROCESS.

IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION.

MS.. BHAT-PATEL. THANK YOU.

AND I KNOW WE'VE WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING ON THIS MS. HENDRICK. REALLY, REALLY QUICKLY ON SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE ELECTRIC PREFERRED OPTION QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY OR FOR OUR CITY MANAGER, BUT JUST FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, IF I HEAR WHAT YOU SAID WITH

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I KNOW FROM PREVIOUS DIRECTION WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE ELECTRIFICATION, LOOKING AT ELECTRIFICATION ORDINANCES IN THE PAST.

AND SO JUST CURIOUS, WHEN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE DOES COME FORWARD TO US, COULD WE YOU MENTIONED VARIATIONS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU'D BE PROVIDING TO US.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY? AND WOULD YOU NEED FORMAL DIRECTION FROM US TODAY? I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

I THINK IF YOU'RE WANTING US TO DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE ON AROUND ELECTRIC PREFERRED, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE A MOTION AND A FULL VOTE ON.

THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GIVE US.

OKAY. AND JUST TO UNDERSTAND, YOU ARE SAYING THAT.

EVEN IF IT HAS THE EFFECT OF IT BEING ALL SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE ALL ELECTRIC PREFERRED IS EVEN. EVEN IF IT SAYS PREFERRED, IT COULD STILL HAVE SOME RISK ASSOCIATED WITH IT WITH REGARDS TO THE CURRENT PENDING LEGISLATION, CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE THE ARGUMENT THAT PEOPLE OPPOSED TO IT WOULD BRING.

THEY WOULD BE LOOKING TO SEE IF IT HAS THE EFFECT OF PREVENTING GAS APPLIANCES FROM USING GAS. AND IF IT DOES, THEN THEN THAT'S WHAT MIGHT DRAW INTEREST AND POTENTIALLY A CHALLENGE IN IT TO IT. BUT AGAIN, I ALSO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IMMEDIATELY.

IT IT THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE WILL REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF NOT ONE BUT TWO STATE AGENCIES.

AND THE STATE IS ALSO, I'M SURE, LOOKING AT THIS THE SAME WAY THAT LOCAL AGENCIES ARE RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE'D BE PROTECTING FROM ORDINANCE, ADOPTION AND APPROVAL THEN AN ADDITIONAL MAYBE 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS FOR THE STATE TO LOOK AT IT.

SO I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A MISPERCEPTION THAT EVEN IF COUNCIL WERE ABLE TO GET THE ORDINANCE PASSED, THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING IMMEDIATE, THERE WOULD BE A TIME DELAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. HOW ABOUT CLOSING STATEMENTS, MS..

LUNA. I SORT OF HAVE QUESTIONS AND CLOSING STATEMENTS.

ARE THERE ANY ELECTRIC PREFERRED OPTION ORDINANCES OUT THERE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I CAN CERTAINLY LOOK THOSE UP.

I'M SURE THEY EXIST.

I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHICH JURISDICTIONS THOSE ARE.

BUT BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW.

MY INTENT IS THAT IT IS A PREFERRED OPTION IN COUNCIL.

I DO NOT WANT IT TO BE PROHIBITIVE.

I WANT IT TO BE AN OPTION.

A PREFERRED OPTION IF SOMEONE DESIRES SO.

SO MY INTENTION IS NOT TO HAVE LANGUAGE IN THAT ORDINANCE AT ALL THAT WOULD PREVENT FOLKS FROM COMING IN AND STILL INSTALLING GAS LINES. SO WHATEVER.

IF WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN THAT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE, KATIE, IF YOU CAN DO SOME EXPLORATION AND COME BACK.

I CANNOT BELIEVE IN THE STATE THAT THERE IS NOT ONE THAT'S NOT FLOATING AROUND.

MS. BURKHOLDER YEAH, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT THE ELECTRIC ELECTRIC PREFERRED OPTION WOULD BE REALLY GOOD.

I LOVE MY INDUCTION STOVE, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE WELL, THE CASE THAT YOU MENTIONED, OBVIOUSLY, BUT ALSO THE TIME CONSTRAINTS, THE TIME THAT STAFF MIGHT SPEND ON THIS WHILE THERE'S CURRENT LITIGATION GOING ON WHERE WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO TURN OUT IN THE END.

SO I WOULD JUST BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND TAX DOLLARS THAT WE'RE USING TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE OR AN OPTION LIKE THIS AND ABSENT AN ACTUAL DECISION BY THE COURTS.

MS. ACOSTA. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE KIND OF CONSERVATIVE APPROACH AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF A VERY BROAD INTERPRETATION.

BUT I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS, AND I KNOW I BROUGHT UP LIKE SOME OF THE ISSUES AROUND A VERY BROAD INTERPRETATION BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING IN THE STATE, THERE ARE GOALS AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS.

WE'VE GOT TO MEET THEM AND WE KNOW THAT WE CANNOT MEET THEM IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PROHIBITED FROM DOING THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO I, I HAVE FAITH THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE DECLARED A CLIMATE EMERGENCY IN IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IN 2021.

AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING MORE AGGRESSIVELY TOWARDS DOING THINGS TO TRY TO TRY

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AND AND IT'S NOT JUST SIT AND WAIT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THE ELECTRIC PREFERRED REACH CODE, AND I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE PURSUE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED REACH CODE FOLLOWING THE TIMELINE ON THIS SLIDE.

MISS BHAT-PATEL, CAN I JUST SECOND AND THEN TO CLARIFY YOUR MOTION, IT WOULD BE BASED ON ONCE WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THE CASE, BE ABLE TO THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED REACH CODE.

UH, SO LET ME CLARIFY.

I THINK THAT THIS IS POSSIBLE REGARDLESS OF THE CASE.

ISN'T THAT RIGHT? IN TERMS OF STARTING THE WORK? YES. AGAIN, IT ULTIMATELY IS GOING TO IN TERMS OF WHETHER THE BERKELEY CASE AFFECTS IT, IT'S ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE DETERMINED BY THE PROVISIONS THAT COUNSEL WANTS IN THE ORDINANCE. RIGHT.

AND WHETHER THERE'S COMPATIBILITY OR INCOMPATIBILITY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO WE CAN DO IT. BUT THE WAY WE WORD IT WILL BE DEPENDENT ON THE RESULT OF THE BERKELEY CASE. OKAY.

WOULD TO TO CLARIFY WITH YOU ALL THE WORK IF IT DID BEGIN.

I'M GUESSING YOU WOULD BEGIN ON IT NOW.

RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT TIME, RESOURCES, MONEY.

I COMPLETELY SUPPORT AND WANT TO MAKE SURE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, JUST WANT TO HEAR ON THE RECORD HOW YOU ALL WOULD HANDLE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING DONE IN A WAY THAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE FOR US. SHOULD COUNCIL GIVE US DIRECTION TODAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED OPTION, THEN WE WOULD EMBARK ON THAT.

NOW, FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THERE'S I DON'T FEEL ALL THAT COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN MAY PRESENTING THIS TO YOU.

SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GET IT RIGHT.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE TIME THAT IT TAKES UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY OF COUNCIL. BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO DOING SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY COULD END UP BEING RECKLESS.

SO YEAH, SO IT ANSWERS MY QUESTION SOMEWHAT, AND I'M ASSUMING AND I'LL LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ALSO, I'M GUESSING YOU WOULD WAIT TO I WOULD ASSUME SINCE THAT'S YOUR JOB, YOU WOULD WAIT TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CASE A LITTLE BIT.

I MEAN, YOU WOULD START TO WORK ON IT, BUT REFINE IT BASED ON WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT.

YEAH, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A CASE OF IMPORTANCE TO THE COUNCIL.

WE'RE GOING TO BE MONITORING THIS CASE ALL ALONG AND SEE AND THIS AND ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA, FRANKLY.

AND OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS WHEN OUR OFFICE BRINGS YOU AN ORDINANCE TO LOOK AT TO BE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY MEET WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR THE CONTENTS OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT THAT IT BE A FULLY DEFENSIBLE ORDINANCE.

OKAY. NOW, ADDITIONALLY, THERE WILL BE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

LIKELY WE'LL HAVE TO RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE HIRING OF A CONSULTANT THAT WOULD BE TASKED TO WORK ON THIS. OKAY.

AND FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, UNFORTUNATELY, I JUST DON'T HAVE THE COST AT THIS POINT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO WE'RE IN DISCUSSION, RIGHT? WE HAVE A SECOND BORING DISCUSSION.

SO I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF KATIE COULD DO SOME RESEARCH AND COME BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING FIRST ON THE SHELF BEFORE WE PRESS THE TRIGGER AND SAID, LET'S GO FORWARD.

MAYBE GIVE HER 60 DAYS.

KATIE, YOU HAVEN'T FAINTED ON ME.

SO YOU'RE HOPING FOR 90 PROBABLY, BUT.

WOULD THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO TAKE A LOOK OR.

YEAH. MR. CHADWICK.

AND THIS I ONE OF THE THINGS WE POTENTIALLY COULD DO IS COME BACK IN 60 DAYS.

BUT GIVEN THAT OUR PLAN IS TO ALREADY BE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER WITH KIND OF ALL THE OR AT LEAST PROVIDING THE MOST RECENT UPDATE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS ALSO HAVE BRING AT THE SAME TIME ALSO COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WHAT AN ESTIMATE WOULD BE IN THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED.

SO THAT'S FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

MS.. ACOSTA. SO AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO HAVING TO CHANGING OR WITHDRAWING MY MOTION, MAKING A NEW MOTION INSTEAD.

AND THAT MOTION WOULD BE FOR STAFF TO COME BACK TO US IN 60 DAYS WITH AN UPDATE ON THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE ASKED AROUND OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE AN ELECTRIC PREFERRED REACH CODE MODELS THAT WE OUR OPTIONS.

SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THE FUTURE AND I'LL WAIT FOR A SECOND, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT.

SECOND, THANK YOU.

AND RELATED TO THIS, I MADE THE MOTION TO DISCUSS BANNING GAS IN NEW CONSTRUCTION WELL

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AND I KNOW THEY'RE ON PAUSE NOW, BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING TO HEAR THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SO MUCH TIME. WE DON'T KNOW.

WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS NOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME PROGRESS AND MOVEMENT ON THIS AND NO MORE WAIT FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR WAIT. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR SINCE I MADE THE INITIAL MOTION TO BAN GAS IN NEW CONSTRUCTION AND I HAD THE COUNCIL SUPPORT.

WE ARE A DIFFERENT COUNCIL.

WE HAVE THREE OF THE SAME, BUT WE HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE HERE NOW FROM WHEN I MADE THAT ORIGINAL MOTION AND I WOULD LIKE NOT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE CITY MANAGER BROUGHT UP IS WHY NOT HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK IN OCTOBER WITH THE REST OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN? YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS TO BE A SEPARATE PRESENTATION.

OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WOULD YOU HAVE A DATE CERTAIN? MR. CHADWICK, I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THINGS TO US OR BRING UP NEW THINGS TO A SPECIFIC DATE. SO DO YOU HAVE THE CALENDAR HANDY THERE AND.

MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

WE COULD HAVE IT GO TO A SPECIFIC DATE.

BASED ON YOUR CONCERNS.

BACK UP, BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 12TH.

I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO AMENDING MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT DATE CERTAIN SEPTEMBER 12TH.

THANK YOU. AND I CAN CONTINUE TO SECOND.

OKAY. MY ONLY COMMENTS ARE THAT I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE.

I PREFER TO WAIT FOR THE COURT CASES RATHER THAN SECOND GUESS AND HAVE OUR STAFF DO ALL THIS WORK AND IT POSSIBLY BE SHOT DOWN.

OUR STAFF ISN'T JUST SITTING AROUND HOPING FOR MORE ASSIGNMENTS FROM US, WHICH MEANS IF STAFF IS SADDLED WITH THIS, THAT MEANS SOMETHING ELSE HAS TO GO ON THE BACK BURNER. I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS IS STILL KIND OF AN UNKNOWN, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN COMING UP IN OCTOBER.

SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION TONIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 3 TO 2.

DID KATIE, DID YOU UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 14.

[14. ACCEPTING A STATE GRANT TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO ASSIST INDIVIDUALS AND HOUSEHOLDSEXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD]

SO THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE YES.

AS THE PRESENTERS.

COMING UP, ITEM NUMBER 14 IS ACCEPTING A STATE GRANT TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO ASSIST INDIVIDUALS AND HOUSEHOLDS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY AS OUR HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES DIRECTOR MANDY MILLS, ALONG WITH THE HOMELESS SERVICES MANAGER CHRIS SHELLEY.

GREAT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU AGAIN.

MANDY MILLS, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES.

AND CHRIS SCHILLING, OUR HOMELESS SERVICES MANAGER, WILL BE WITH ME TO PRESENTING THIS EVENING. THIS ITEM ACCEPTS AND DISTRIBUTES GRANT FUNDING FROM THE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION FUNDING GRANT. THE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION FUND PROGRAM, WHICH IS ADMINISTERED BY THE CALIFORNIA INTERAGENCY COUNCIL ON HOMELESSNESS, PROVIDES GRANTS TO LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO RESOLVE CRITICAL ENCAMPMENT CONCERNS AND TRANSITION INDIVIDUALS INTO SAFE AND STABLE HOUSING. IN FEBRUARY, THE SUBMITTED THE CITY SUBMITTED AN ERF PROPOSAL, AND ON JUNE 14TH, THE CITY RECEIVED AWARD NOTIFICATION FOR THE FULL AMOUNT REQUESTED OF APPROXIMATELY $2.3 MILLION.

THE CITY WAS ONE OF JUST 23 JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE TO RECEIVE AN AWARD AND ONE OF ONLY TWO IN THE SAN DIEGO REGION.

THE $2.3 MILLION WILL COVER ADDITIONAL SERVICES IN CARLSBAD FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

THE STATE AGENCY REQUIRES THAT THE SIGN GRANT AGREEMENT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS BE PROVIDED WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER RECEIVING THE NOTICE OF AWARD. SO WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR A NUMBER OF ACTIONS RELATED TO ACCEPTING AND IMPLEMENTING THE GRANT.

I'LL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO CHRIS SCHILLING TO EXPLAIN WHAT PROGRAMS IN OUR HOMELESSNESS ACTION PLAN WILL BE IMPLEMENTED UNDER THE APPROVED GRANT.

THANK YOU. IN FEBRUARY 2023, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE UPDATED HOMELESSNESS ACTION PLAN, WHICH IDENTIFIES SHELTER AND HOUSING OUTREACH, OUTREACH AND ACCESS TO SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY AS THE THREE MAIN AREAS OF FOCUS.

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THE STATE REQUIRES THAT AN IDENTIFIED ENCAMPMENT AREA BE ADDRESSED.

WE FOCUSED ON A SMALL, TARGETED AREA WHERE WE CAN MAKE A NOTICEABLE AND MEASURABLE CHANGE. PINE PARK WAS OUR MAIN FOCUS BASED ON COMMUNITY CONCERNS, BUT WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO EXPAND THE AREA OUT TO INCLUDE HOLIDAY PARK CITY HALL AND THE COLE LIBRARY, AS WELL AS THE FREEWAY AREAS HEADED INTO THE VILLAGE.

SO THIS CHART HERE IDENTIFIES THE FUNDING AND ACTIVITIES THAT THE STATE APPROVED FROM OUR PROPOSAL. WE WILL BE EXPANDING SOME EXISTING PROGRAMS, BUT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THREE NEW COMPONENTS. THE FIRST IS A PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST AND ADDITIONAL LICENSED SOCIAL WORKER.

THIS BRINGS THE TOTAL OUTREACH PROGRAM TO THREE SOCIAL WORKERS WITH ONE PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST. THE SECOND IS A HOUSING NAVIGATOR AT THE LA POSADA SHELTER, WHICH IS A POSITION THAT THEY HAVE NOT HAD TO DATE. LA POSADA WILL ALSO BE PROVIDING THREE SET ASIDE BEDS IN ADDITION TO CARLSBAD'S CURRENT BED PRIORITY. AND THE THIRD COMPONENT IS A STREET MEDICINE PROGRAM TO PROVIDE PREVENTIVE AND AS NEEDED MEDICAL CARE TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE BURDEN FROM THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THIS GRANT INCREASES THE CITY'S CAPACITY TO HELP PEOPLE INTO HOUSING WHILE TARGETING AREAS OF COMMUNITY CONCERN.

IT HAS NO COST TO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT PROVIDES ABOUT $400,000 OVER THREE YEARS FOR HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES, STAFF SALARIES AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.

SO THERE ARE TWO RECOMMENDED ACTIONS THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST ACTION IS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE GRANT AGREEMENT AND RELATED PROGRAM DOCUMENTS AND AMEND THE FY 2023-24 BUDGET TO APPROPRIATE GRANT FUNDS. THE SECOND ACTION IS TO AUTHORIZE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENTS TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO ASSIST INDIVIDUALS AND HOUSEHOLDS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND APPROVE PROCUREMENT EXEMPTIONS.

THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

STAFF ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

SPEAKERS, PLEASE. WE HAVE ONE, BUT I BELIEVE HE LEFT.

MIKE BORRELLO. THANK YOU.

ARE NO SPEAKERS. OKAY.

QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.

MS.. BHAT-PATEL. YES, JUST A QUICK ONE.

CONGRATULATIONS AND EXCITING AND I'M GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADD MORE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT IS A CLEAR PRIORITY FOR US.

AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE $400,000 ALLOWED FOR US TO OFFSET SOME OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. SO REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I NEED A MOTION.

SORRY, MISS. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO GO.

SO, YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK BEFORE I MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE I WAS SWORN IN, I HAD THIS BRIEFING WITH THE CHIEF ABOUT PINE PARK AND THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE.

I APPRECIATE THE FOCUS IN THAT DISTRICT, AND I THINK I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND COMMEND YOU FOR GOING AFTER THE FUNDS TO HELP OFFSET THE TAXPAYER BURDEN HERE IN CARLSBAD.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE IMPLEMENTATION AND HOPEFULLY PARTNERING WITH THE CARE COURT AND ALL OF THIS NEW FRESH FOUND MONEY WILL HELP RELIEVE SOME OF THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUES WE HAVE IN THIS DISTRICT. THANK YOU. MR..

COSTA THANK YOU.

VERY BRIEFLY, I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR AMAZING STAFF FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND SEEK THESE GRANT FUNDS, AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO ALL THE HARD WORK OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE REPORTING THE USAGE OF THE FUNDS APPROPRIATELY AND WORKING WITH ALL OF THE PARTNERS.

AND I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL THAT OUR STAFF WORKS SO WELL IN THIS AREA.

AND I THINK WE'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.

THANKS TO YOU. THANKS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MOTION, PLEASE.

MOVE APPROVAL OF BOTH RESOLUTIONS IN THIS AGENDA ITEM.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.

[15. REQUEST TO FLY COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS]

CITY MANAGER. YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST TO FLY COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS.

AND THIS IS UNDER OUR CURRENT MUNI CODE.

MUNI CODE. SECTION 1.20.060, SECTION C STATES.

AND THIS IS HOW TO PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

THERE ARE THREE AVAILABLE WAYS TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

ONE IS CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER DIRECTED, THE SECOND BEING COUNCIL INITIATED EITHER BY MINUTE MOTION OR BY WAY OF REQUEST TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER HAS MADE THAT REQUEST.

SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO PRESENT THE ITEM.

BEFORE WE START, PLEASE, IF YOU'RE HOLDING SIGNS, PLEASE DON'T HOLD THEM UP OVER YOUR HEAD. IT'S NOT FAIR TO THOSE WHO ARE SITTING BEHIND YOU.

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SO THE THE YOUNG LADIES IN THE FRONT ROW WERE SO NICE TO TO AGREE TO THAT.

SO BUT I SEE SOME MORE SIGNS.

SO. SO JUST PLEASE KEEP THEM DOWN JUST AS A COURTESY TO THOSE BEHIND YOU.

THANK YOU. MISS BURKHOLDER.

THANK YOU. JUST BY WAY OF HISTORY, THIS COUNCIL HAD BEEN PRESENTED WITH POLICY REGARDING COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS, AND IT REQUIRED A FOUR OUT OF FIVE VOTE FOR THAT AND IT FAILED.

THAT MOTION FAILED. SO ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES REQUESTED THE AS A MINUTE MOTION TO FLY THE TRANSSEXUAL FLAG, AND IT WAS SECONDED AND SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS. IT WAS VOTED ON AND PASSED.

AND SO IN JUNE WE DID FLY THE TRANSSEXUAL FLAG.

AND THEN AFTER THAT HAPPENED, I RECEIVED I THINK WE'RE UP TO LIKE 18 REQUESTS NOW TO FLY ALL DIFFERENT FLAGS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FLAG POLICY.

SO I CAN'T DISCUSS ANY OF THIS WITH MY COLLEAGUES OUTSIDE OF A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE OTHER MEMBERS IN CASE THEY, FOR ONE, DIDN'T GET THE REQUEST THAT I RECEIVED.

AND FOR TO JUST TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A FLAG POLICY, WHETHER BECAUSE IT'S FAIR, WE HAVE TO BE FAIR FOR EVERYONE.

IF WE SAY YES TO ONE GROUP, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A PARAMETER OR GUIDELINE TO SAY YES OR NO TO ANOTHER GROUP.

THAT'S REALLY THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING A POLICY IS TO CREATE FAIR PLAYING FIELDS FOR EVERYONE. SO I DID NOT THINK IT WOULD BE OUT OF PLACE TO TO BRING THIS FORWARD AND DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL IF YOU HAVE PERHAPS AN APPETITE TO BRING BACK A FLAG POLICY THAT MAYBE HAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE ORIGINAL ONE.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WANT TO HAVE FLAGS THAT ARE PROTECTED CLASSES OF INDIVIDUALS, IF THAT'S HOW YOU WANT TO DELINEATE WHICH FLAGS WE FLY OTHER THAN THE US AND THE CALIFORNIA FLAG, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE DISCUSSION.

SO I GUESS I WOULD MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN TAKING UP THE FLAG POLICY AGAIN? AND AND THE CONCERN IS THAT ABSENT A FLAG POLICY, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE THE ARBITER OF FREE SPEECH IN CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA.

SO I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT IN DETERMINING A POLICY THAT WOULD HELP US WITH FOLKS THAT WANT TO FLY FLAGS THAT MAYBE WE COULD DETERMINE WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE GOVERNMENT SPEECH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ON A FLAGPOLE OUTSIDE IS REPRESENTATIVE OF GOVERNMENT SPEECH AS AS OPPOSED TO A PUBLIC PLATFORM.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST THING.

AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD HAVE SOME OTHER DISCUSSION.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR SOME GUIDANCE.

NORMALLY WHEN THERE'S A PRESENTATION BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSION, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT OR TO WAIT TILL AFTER WE HAVE DISCUSSION? PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT WOULD BE FINE.

MAYOR. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS.

CLARK CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY? 17.

OKAY. WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ALSO A GROUP.

WHO WANTS TO SPEAK. GROUPS GENERALLY GET MORE TIME.

SO BECAUSE OF THIS, I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

I'M GOING TO CUT THE TIME DOWN TO ONE MINUTE PER SPEAKER.

AND FOR THE GROUP, I'M GOING TO CUT THE GROUP TIME DOWN TO FIVE MINUTES.

SO PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.

KATIE TEAGLE AND NATE WALLS.

AS LONG AS YOU'RE BOTH GOING TO GO.

IF YOU WANT TO JUST SWITCH PLACES, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY. SWEET.

MY NAME IS NATE WATTS. I'M A STUDENT AND RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

EFFORTS SUCH AS THE ONE PROPOSED BY COUNCILWOMAN BURKHOLDER, WHO'S CONVENIENTLY NOT LOOKING AT ME, DO NOTHING EXCEPT FURTHER DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND TURN NEIGHBOR ON NEIGHBOR. THE FACT THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL COMFORTABLE RETALIATING AGAINST THE PRIDE FLAG BEING RAISED HONESTLY SPEAKS MORE TO THEIR LACKING CHARACTER THAN I EVER PERSONALLY COULD. AND I THINK THIS SORT OF PETTY RESPONSE HAS NO PLACE IN THE ACTIVITY OF A COUNCIL THAT SHOULD BE WORKING TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY.

THIS PROPOSED ACTION, IN MY OPINION, IS A HUGE STEP BACK.

THE ONLY PLACE FOR THE CONFEDERATE FLAG IS IN OUR HISTORY BOOKS, AND I THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN THAT WAY. FLYING THE FLYING THE PRIDE FLAG THREATENS LITERALLY NOBODY BUT FLYING.

THE FLAGS THAT COUNCILWOMAN BURKHOLDER IS PROPOSING THREATENS LITERALLY EVERYBODY.

COUNCILWOMAN BURKHOLDER YOUR ACTIONS DIRECTLY OPEN OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO VIOLENCE, ATTACKS OR THREATS. YOU JUST DISCUSSED THE TIME, MONEY AND STAFF RESOURCES WASTED ON FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE, AS WELL AS THE WASTE OF TIME ON PROCLAMATIONS AND FLAG POLICIES.

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YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED, SIR.

HELLO, MY NAME IS KAYLEE TIGGLE AND I'VE BEEN A CARLSBAD RESIDENT SINCE I WAS BORN.

MELANIE BURKHOLDER IS INAPPROPRIATE ACTIONS.

OH, SHE'S ALSO NOT LOOKING AT ME AND REASONS I'M HERE TODAY.

THE ONES THAT I WORRY AND SCARE ME THE MOST ARE THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION FLAG, THE STRAIGHT PRIDE FLAG AND THE CONFEDERATE FLAG.

THE NRA FLAG BEING RAISED IS JUST ONE OF THE FLAGS THAT MAKES MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS SCARED IN THIS COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY TERRIFIED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WORRIED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I WILL SHARE A FEW SOME QUOTES THAT PEOPLE HAVE SENT TO ME.

DISGUSTING TO COMPARE OR HAVE IT ON THE SAME LIST AS THE PRIDE FLAG.

UNSAFE. IT'S LIKE BEING LIKE INVITING SCHOOL SHOOTERS.

WORRIED AND SCARED. GUN VIOLENCE IS A LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN.

CARLSBAD RESIDENTS ARE FEELING UNSAFE AND SCARED IN OUR CITY.

AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS BY US.

THE RESIDENTS. PLEASE WORK FOR US WITH US.

DO NOT LET THESE FLAGS BE RAISED.

VOTE NO. SO THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THESE HATEFUL FLAGS.

RAISING SUCH FLAGS DO NOT BUILD A UNIFIED COMMUNITY JUST BY HEARING THESE SUGGESTIONS OF FLAGS. RUBY BELT, FOLLOWED BY EMILY CHRYSLER.

HELLO, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RUBY AND I'M A STUDENT AT CARLSBAD AND I ALSO LIVE HERE.

I GREW UP HERE AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE LIVED IN A SAFE CITY.

BUT THE PROPOSAL OF THESE FLAGS THREATENS TO MAKE THIS THE CITY NOT SAFE FOR EVERYONE.

I WANT TO SECOND WHAT KAYLEE SAID ABOUT THE NRA ASSOCIATION FLAG.

I'M A PROUD MEMBER OF STUDENTS DEMAND ACTION.

AND AS GUN VIOLENCE IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 18 IN THE UNITED STATES, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY ABHORRENT THAT WE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER FLYING THAT FLAG. SECOND, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN FLAG.

I'M A PROUD CHRISTIAN. MY FAITH GUIDES EVERY DECISION I MAKE AND I GO TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.

I AM DISGUSTED THAT THE CHRISTIAN FLAG, A FLAG OF LOVE, WAS USED IN A CAMPAIGN, A HATEFUL CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE PRIDE FLAG.

IT WOULD BE ABHORRENT FOR THE CITY TO APPROVE AND CONTINUE SPEAKING ON THESE MOTIONS BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE CARLSBAD A CITY THAT IS NOT SAFE FOR EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. SORRY.

HI, MY NAME IS EMILY KREISLER.

I AM A FORMER STUDENT BOARD REPRESENTATIVE FOR SAN MARCOS UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH I SAY NOT TO BOAST ABOUT THAT, BUT TO SHOW THAT THIS IS NOT ONLY A CARLSBAD ISSUE, BUT AN EVERYBODY ISSUE. YOU ARE TRYING TO FLY FLAGS THAT AFFECT EVERYONE, INCLUDING LGBTQIA PLUS STUDENTS AND MINORITIES.

UM, YOU SAID EARLIER, SORRY, THE SUPERVISOR SAID EARLIER THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DECADES OF NEGLECT AGAINST HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I ARGUE THAT THIS IS NOW DECADES OF NEGLECT AGAINST CHILDREN, CHILDREN THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING BUT ARE INSTEAD NEGLECTING.

WE ARE ASKING FOR A LOT, SIMPLY THE BARE MINIMUM FOR YOU TO INCLUDE EVERYONE.

ARGUABLY, WHAT WE COULD BE ASKING FOR IS FOR YOU TO BE DOING PROPOSALS AND THINGS THAT ARE HELPING MENTAL HEALTH AND RESOURCES FOR LGBTQIA PLUS STUDENTS.

BUT INSTEAD WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR YOU TO FLY A PRIDE FLAG FOR ALL STUDENTS TO FEEL INCLUDED. THANK YOU.

PIERRE COCHET VENO, FOLLOWED BY BRADLEY REIMERS.

THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WE RECITE EVERY TIME, AND IT CONTAINS SOME WORDS REPUBLIC.

SO THE CONFEDERATE FLAG SOUGHT TO DESTROY IT.

LET'S BE CLEAR. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FOR.

IT SAYS THE WORD LIBERTY.

LIBERTY FOR ALL.

AND THIS FLAG STOOD FOR SLAVERY.

SO HOW COULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER FLYING THIS FLAG? ALSO IT'S, AS THE PLEDGE SAYS, UNITED ONE NATION.

SO THIS FLAG SOUGHT TO DESTROY TO RIP APART OUR NATION.

SO HOW CAN YOU EVEN CONSIDER SUCH A THING, SUCH A TREASONOUS SYMBOL? I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THIS AND TO COMPARE IT TO THE LGBTQ FLAG IS COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE.

THIS IS ABOUT UNIFYING PEOPLE.

I HAVE A SPECIAL REQUEST FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER TO TAKE JUST A VERY QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK. SO WE'RE GOING TO RESUME IN JUST FIVE MINUTES.

THAT'LL BE TEN MINUTES UNTIL EIGHT.

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THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EVERYBODY FOR FOR INDULGING OUR FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

WE'RE RESUMING. PLEASE CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER BACK IN SESSION, PLEASE.

QUIET. ALEXA NORA WORMS, FOLLOWED BY VICKY SAGE.

OH, I'M SORRY, BRADLEY.

SCHOOL COLORS BY COUNCIL AND MY FELLOW CITIZENS.

I'M HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER'S REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION ON FLYING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG AT CITY HALL AS PART OF HER COMMEMORATIVE FLAG INITIATIVE.

FOR THE RECORD, HER MEMO FOR THIS AGENDA, WHICH IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, NEVER MENTIONED A REQUEST TO DEVELOP A FLAG CODE TO EVEN BEGIN TO COMPARE THE PRIDE FLAG, A SYMBOL OF RIGHTS HARD WON BY AMERICAN CITIZENS TO THE SYMBOL OF HATRED, TERRORISM AND BIGOTRY THAT THE CONFEDERATE FLAG IS IS INCREDULOUS AND RETAINING THE IDEA OF HOISTING A TRAITOR'S FLAG IN ORDER TO GET ATTENTION IS CHILDISH AND UNBECOMING OF A COUNCIL MEMBER OF CARLSBAD.

WE ARE A CITY THAT VALUES INCLUSION, INGENUITY, SMALL BUSINESS AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND PROGRESSIVE VALUES. SO CONFEDERATE COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER, BY LUDICROUSLY PROPOSING WE SO MUCH AS DISCUSS FLYING THAT FLAG, YOU'VE NOT ONLY FAILED TO REPRESENT YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT ARE DRAGGING OUR CITY BACKWARDS TO A TIME OF FEAR AND INDIGNATION.

AND AS A RESULT, I'M PUBLICLY CALLING FOR YOUR RESIGNATION AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SAY NO TO CONFEDERATE FLAG.

ALEXA NORA WORMS. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS, PLEASE GO OUTSIDE AND HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS.

BUT NOT INSIDE. MHM. ALEXA.

VICKI. VICKI SAGE, SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT, I'M DISMAYED BY THE REQUEST TO FLY COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS.

WHEN THE COUNCIL VOTED IN FAVOR OF FLYING THE PRIDE FLAG, THE CITY ATTORNEY MADE IT CLEAR TO THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT MOTION WAS TO USE GOVERNMENT SPEECH IN CITY HALL AS A REFLECTION OF THE CITY'S OWN MESSAGE.

IT WAS ALSO VERY CLEARLY CLARIFIED THAT THE RESOLUTION DID NOT TRANSFORM THE FLAGPOLES INTO PUBLIC FORUMS. THE FLAGS PROPOSED REPRESENT PERSONAL OPINIONS, RELIGION AND WHITE SUPREMACY.

I'M PARTICULARLY HORRIFIED THAT THE CONFEDERATE FLAG, THE FLAG OF TREASON AND THE NRA WERE ON THE LIST, INCLUDING RELIGIOUS FLAGS, DEMONSTRATES OUTRIGHT DISREGARD OF OUR CONSTITUTION, THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, ONE OF THE FOUNDING TENETS OF OUR COUNTRY. THE RESOLUTION DEMONSTRATES POOR JUDGMENT, A FAILURE TO ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF CARLSBAD, INCLUDING FLAGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUTRIGHT REJECTED.

I EXPECT BETTER FROM THE COUNCIL, FROM THE CITY.

WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

PLEASE VOTE NO.

KEVIN SABELLICO, FOLLOWED BY RICHARD NEWTON.

GOOD EVENING. KEVIN SABELLICO, DISTRICT TWO.

I'M HERE TODAY AS A PROUD LGBTQ AMERICAN.

I HAVE PRIDE, PRIDE IN MY IDENTITY AND PRIDE THAT I LIVE IN A CITY WHERE OUR RESIDENTS SUPPORT A WELCOMING AND DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

BUT TONIGHT, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD EQUIVOCATE THE PRIDE FLAG WITH THE FLAG OF THE CONFEDERACY.

IT'S OFFENSIVE AND IT'S WRONG.

WE LIVE IN A SCARY TIME WHEN GAY RIGHTS ARE UNDER ATTACK.

STORES WON'T SELL MERCHANDISE WITH A RAINBOW FLAG ON IT.

TRANS PEOPLE ARE BEING ATTACKED IN THE STREETS.

LGBTQ AMERICANS CAN'T EVEN SERVE AS TEACHERS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN SOME PLACES BECAUSE PARENTS ARE WORRIED THAT THEY'LL MOLEST THEIR CHILDREN.

I URGE YOU TO REJECT THIS OFFENSIVE IDEA TO EQUATE THE PRIDE FLAG WITH THE TRAITORS AND SLAVEHOLDERS WHO TOOK UP ARMS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

PLEASE BE THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT CARLSBAD CARES ABOUT SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES, PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT. PUBLIC SAFETY.

NOT DEBATING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG.

THANK YOU.

AMERICA OFFERS EQUAL RIGHTS AND ACCESS TO ALL OUR FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS, OUR INSTITUTIONS THAT BRING US TOGETHER.

AND THE FLAGS OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS ARE POWERFUL SYMBOLS OF THE VALUES, RIGHTS, HISTORY AND CULTURE WE ALL SHARE, IRRESPECTIVE OF ANY PERSONAL DIFFERENCES WE MAY HAVE.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AS AMERICANS.

THE FOUNDERS FEARED TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY, REASONING THAT IT IS A BAD THING TO LET 51% OF THE PEOPLE DOMINATE THE OTHER 49%.

ALL REASONABLE PEOPLE SHOULD AGREE.

BUT IF TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY IS A BAD THING, THEN SURELY TYRANNY OF THE MINORITY MUST BE WORSE. SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A 5% OF THE PEOPLE DOMINATED THE OTHER 95%.

THE FLYING OF AN AMERICAN FLAG BONDS US TOGETHER.

THEN HOW IS IMPOSING A FLAG THAT REPRESENTS ONLY A FACTIONAL MINORITY, ANYTHING BUT A DIVISIVE BURDEN ON THE MAJORITY? FOR EXAMPLE, THE LGBT COMMUNITY IS ONLY ABOUT 5% OF THE POPULATION.

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GOVERNMENT FLAG DISPLAYS SHOULD BE INCLUSIVE TO ALL.

THE UNITED STATES FLAG.

BRIAN CONNOR. THE RON CONNOR.

DISTRICT ONE. I'M HERE TO CONFRONT THE DIVISIVENESS IN THIS SOCIETY THAT IS ATTEMPTING TO GET AN UPPER HAND ON. REASON THAT EMBARKED UPON A PATH OF OTHERISM AND HATRED IS INSENSITIVE TO THE PLIGHT OF ITS FELLOW.

AND NEEDS TO BE PUSHED BACK UPON.

IT'S UNHEALTHY.

AND AND THE THING ABOUT CONFEDERATE FLAGS IS APPALLING.

AND THE CHRISTIAN FLAG.

I KNOW YOU KNOW, MY FEELING IS IF YOUR GOD IS SO POWERFUL, HOW COME YOU GOT TO DEFEND HIM? YOU KNOW.

SO THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. NEXT WE HAVE A GROUP, SCOTT DAVIDSON, WHO'S SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ROBERT LEE, TAMARA DIXON, MIKE BORRELLO, AND MIGUEL ADRIAN. DEAR MAYOR BLACKBURN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS SCOTT DAVISON AND I HAVE BEEN A CARLSBAD RESIDENT SINCE 2006.

I'M AN ATTORNEY AND I'M APPEARING TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS FOR COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT TO DISCUSS THE REQUESTS RECEIVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER ON BEHALF OF CARLSBAD CONSTITUENTS TO FLY VARIOUS DIFFERENT FLAGS AT CITY HALL.

OTHER CITIES HAVE WALKED THIS SAME PATH AND CAN OFFER VALUABLE LESSONS.

MOST NOTABLY, THE CITY OF BOSTON FOR YEARS ALLOWED ANY GROUP TO FLY ANY FLAG AT CITY HALL FOR RECOGNITION OF THEIR GROUP.

THERE WAS NO CITY POLICY AND ON WHICH FLAGS WERE ALLOWED TO BE FLOWN AND WHICH WEREN'T.

BUT FOR YEARS IT WAS NEVER A PROBLEM.

THEY FLEW THE FLAGS FOR OTHER COUNTRIES AND CAUSES FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE WORKERS AND EVEN THE PRIDE FLAG. IT WASN'T A PROBLEM UNTIL ONE DAY IT WAS BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED TO FLY THE CHRISTIAN FLAG AND A SINGLE PERSON AT THE CITY OF BOSTON DECIDED THAT WASN'T ALLOWED.

THE PROBLEM, OF COURSE, IS THAT THE DECISION NOT TO FLY THE CHRISTIAN FLAG WAS ARBITRARY AND BASED ON THE SINGLE VIEWPOINT OF A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL AT THE CITY.

SINCE THERE WAS NO POLICY IN PLACE ON WHICH FLAG SHOULD BE FLOWN AND WHICH SHOULDN'T.

SO THE GROUP THAT WANTED TO FLY THE CHRISTIAN FLAG SUED, AND THE CASE MADE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT. AND I BET YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BECAUSE IT WAS JUST LAST YEAR THAT THE SUPREME COURT, IN A 9-0 UNANIMOUS DECISION, FOUND THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON HAD VIOLATED THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE GROUP BY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THE VIEWPOINT OF THE RELIGIOUS GROUP WHILE APPROVING THE VIEWPOINTS OF OTHER GROUPS.

SO FORTUNATELY, THE CITY HAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS THE BENEFIT OF THIS EXAMPLE AND CAN LEARN FROM ITS MISTAKE IN DECIDING TO FLY THE PRIDE FLAG A FEW WEEKS AGO, WITHOUT A FORMAL POLICY ON FLYING OTHER FLAGS, I KNOW THE COUNCIL CONSIDERED, BUT DID NOT PASS A POLICY ON FLYING FLAGS.

BUT PERHAPS THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT DECISION WEREN'T CLEAR AT THE TIME.

SO TONIGHT, LET ME HELP MAKE THOSE CONSEQUENCES CLEAR.

WITHOUT A POLICY IN PLACE, YOU'VE NOW PASSED THE BUCK TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE THESE ARBITRARY DECISIONS ABOUT WHICH FLAGS TO FLY AND WHICH FLAGS NOT TO FLY.

SO IF COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER REFUSES TO FLY TO BRING A REQUEST TO FLY ONE FLAG FOR A VOTE, SAY THE CONFEDERATE FLAG, BUT DOES DECIDE TO BRING FORWARD A REQUEST TO FLY A DIFFERENT FLAG, SAY THE JUNETEENTH FLAG.

IT IS NOW THE COUNCIL MEMBER, BURKHOLDER, WHO IS COMMITTING VIEWPOINT DISCRIMINATION BY SUPPORTING A REQUEST FOR ONE FLAG AND NOT SUPPORTING A REQUEST FOR ANOTHER.

SO FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER DID THE RIGHT THING BY SIMPLY BRINGING ALL THE FLAGS WHICH HAD BEEN REQUESTED BY CARLSBAD RESIDENTS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, BECAUSE AT LEAST SHE HAS AVOIDED GETTING PERSONALLY SUED FOR DISCRIMINATION. THE PROBLEM FOR THE CITY IS THAT YOU NOW HAVE THE UNCOMFORTABLE DECISION OF APPROVING OR REJECTING EACH ONE OF THESE FLAGS WITHOUT A POLICY IN PLACE WHICH HELPS DETERMINE WHICH FLAG SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE FLOWN.

AND WITHOUT THAT POLICY, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE A DECISION TO APPROVE ONE FLAG WHILE REJECTING ANOTHER WITHOUT GETTING ACCUSED OF VIEWPOINT DISCRIMINATION.

EVEN IF YOU REJECT EVERY REQUEST ON THE LIST TONIGHT, YOU'RE COMMITTING UNCONSTITUTIONAL VIEWPOINT DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE YOU ALREADY APPROVED THE FLYING OF THE PRIDE FLAG.

IN FACT, THE ONLY LEGAL WAY OUT OF THIS MESS MIGHT BE TO APPROVE ALL THE FLAGS BEING FLOWN. AND JUDGING FROM THIS LIST, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF US REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE.

I HOPE IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES AND AVOID GETTING THE CITY INVOLVED IN UNNECESSARY AND AVOIDABLE LITIGATION.

THE SUPREME COURT GAVE THE SAME ADVICE TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AS WELL.

JUST PASSED A FORMAL POLICY ON FLAGS AND YOU CAN AVOID THIS WHOLE MESS.

FINALLY, ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I'VE TOLD OUR SCHOOL BOARD OF LATE AS

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IF A STUDENT REALLY NEEDS A TEACHER TO WEAR A PIN TO FEEL SAFE ON CAMPUS, WE HAVE A TEACHER PROBLEM. SO HERE IN CARLSBAD, IF OUR CITIZENS REALLY NEED OUR CITY TO FLY A PARTICULAR FLAG JUST TO FEEL SAFE IN OUR CITY, WE HAVE A CITY CULTURE PROBLEM.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 17 YEARS AND I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.

I HOPE YOU AGREE. LISA NAVA, FOLLOWED BY MAX DISPOSTI.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS LISA NAVA. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS AT THE NORTH COUNTY LGBTQ CENTER.

I'M ALSO A 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF NORTH COUNTY IN ENCINITAS AND NOW ESCONDIDO.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REITERATE WHAT SOME OF OUR FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE SAID AND ALSO TO LET YOU KNOW I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE THAT IS OF THE MIND OF THE TWO FLAGS, THE UNITED STATES AND THE CALIFORNIA FLAG.

AND WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

AND WE CAME TO A PLACE OF WHEN THE UNITED STATES FLAG REALLY REPRESENTS UNITY.

THAT IS WHEN WE SHOULD ALL AGREE THAT THAT FLAG IS THE ONLY FLAG THAT FLIES FOR OUR LGBTQ COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE WAY THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE SEEING AND ALSO THE WAY THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING PUSHED BACK TO BE INVISIBLE.

AND WE WILL NOT BE INVISIBLE.

WE ARE NOT GOING BACK IN TIME AND I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT TO NOT.

THE WORK OF THE.

SO MAX DISPOSTI, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LGBT CENTER, NORTH SAN DIEGO COUNTY. WE'RE NOT GIVING UP ON YOU.

YOU SEE, WE'RE STILL HERE.

I WILL SAY, THOUGH, I'M VERY CONFUSED.

I HAVE TO SAY, THIS KEEPS GOING BACK AND FORTH.

COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER FIRST OF ALL, YOU VOTED AGAINST THE POLICY AND NOW YOU WANT IT BACK, BUT NOW YOU'RE PROPOSING A LIST THAT'S VERY SHAMEFUL FOR A LOT OF REASONS.

THERE'S ONE THING THAT GUIDES US THROUGH THE COMMON SENSE THAT CAN IDENTIFY WHEN HATE IS OUT ON THE OPEN. SO THE DIFFERENCE ABOUT THESE FLAGS AND THE RAINBOW FLAGS, NONE OF THESE PROPOSED FLAGS REPRESENT A CALIFORNIA PROTECTED CLASS.

IT IS FOR THE RAINBOW FLAG.

FIRST, THE PROPOSAL OF OTHER COUNTRY FLAG THAT CANNOT BE FLOWN IN ANY GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS. WE KNOW THAT THE PAKISTANI FLAG VATICAN FLAG WILL BE REPRESENTING TREASON IN CALIFORNIA OR IN THE UNITED STATES. THE OTHER FLAGS REPRESENTS OPINION, HISTORICAL TRAGEDIES, VIOLENCE LIKE THE CONFEDERATE FLAG OR ACTIVITIES, NOT INNATE HUMAN CHARACTERISTICS OF IDENTITY SUCH AS RACE, GENDER, ETHNICITY.

SO BEING. THEN. IT'S AN IDEA.

IT'S AN. I SEE YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED.

WE GOT THE POINT. THANK YOU. AUSTIN HATCH, FOLLOWED BY SANDRA MARTINEZ.

HELLO, DEAR.

MELANIE BURKHOLDER PROPOSING TO APPLY AN NRA FLAG, CONFEDERATE FLAG IS UNACCEPTABLE.

WE, THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD, HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS MAD AT A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

WHY ARE YOU UPSET OVER RAINBOW FLAG? THE RAINBOW FLAG REPRESENTS LOVE, RESPECT AND UNITY.

THE CONFEDERATE FLAG AND THE NRA FLAG REPRESENT HATE AND BIGOTRY AND HATRED TOWARDS ONE ANOTHER. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE WANTING? YOU WANT US ALL TO HATE EACH OTHER.

I GREW UP HERE AND LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE AND WILL FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

AND WE, THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD, DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE A CONFEDERATE FLAG AND OR AN NRA FLAG BE FLOWN OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL.

ALSO, MELANIE BURKHOLDER, EITHER RESIGN NOW OR WE, THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD, WILL RECALL YOU, YOUR MAN, DO NOT REPRESENT CARLSBAD AT ALL.

THANK YOU. HELLO, I'M SANDRA MARTINEZ.

I'VE BEEN A CARLSBAD TAXPAYER FOR 40 YEARS.

FIRST TIME TO A CARLSBAD MEETING.

AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WHAT IS A FLAG? A FLAG HAS DIFFERENT MEANINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS ISSUE ABOUT VIEWPOINTS.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT IT, EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN THE UNITED STATES LIVES IN THE UNITED STATES. EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN CALIFORNIA LIVES IN CALIFORNIA.

AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN COMMON AND THAT BIND US.

BUT JUST BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN HERE TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE UNITY WITH THIS FLAG DISCUSSION. WE HAVE DIVISION AND DIVISIVENESS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT EMOTIONS FLYING AROUND.

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IF IT'S GOING TO DIVIDE PEOPLE, WE DON'T NEED IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ISSUE HAS BROUGHT UP.

SO I WOULD SAY WE STICK WITH OUR TWO FLAGS THAT DO UNITE EVERYBODY, THAT EVERYBODY IS EITHER AN AMERICAN OR LIVES IN THE US.

OUR FINAL SPEAKER, HOLLY HERRING.

MY NAME IS HOLLY HERRING.

I LIVE AND VOTE IN DISTRICT TWO, AND MY NICKNAME FOR MOST OF MY LIFE HAS BEEN RED HERRING. RED HERRING BEING A PERFECT TRANSITION FOR WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT HERE THAT I'M TRYING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.

THIS IS A REALLY HATE FILLED WAY TO GO ABOUT SUPPORTING BULLIES IN OUR CITY AND YOU AREN'T SUPPORTING YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

IF YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD FLAGS THAT YOU THINK SUPPORT THIS CITY, BRING THEM AND BRING IT UP HERE FOR A VOTE, YOU HAVE THAT OPTION.

THAT'S A THING THAT YOU CAN DO.

BUT WHAT YOU'VE BROUGHT IS ABSURDITY AND YOU'RE HURTING PEOPLE.

YOU'VE HURT ME, YOU'VE HURT MY FAMILY.

THIS THIS LEVEL OF HATE THAT I HEAR OPENLY SPEWED EVERYWHERE I WALK IN THIS ROOM IS SICKENING. CARL.

THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. WE'LL START WITH MISS BURKHOLDER.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH, I JUST MADE SOME NOTES.

SORRY IF I WASN'T LOOKING AT YOU WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING, IT'S BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SOME NOTES ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING.

I FIND IT VERY IMPORTANT, AND I VALUE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE HERE IN THE ROOM THAT ARE SPEAKING UP AND VOICING THEIR OPINIONS AND SAYING, WE DON'T LIKE THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING? I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, I DID NOT BRING FORTH ANY OF THESE FLAGS MYSELF.

AND YOU'RE MAKING MY POINT FOR ME THAT THIS IS WHY WE NEED A FLAG POLICY, BECAUSE I WANT SOMETHING THAT UNIFIES US.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT WANT THE LGBTQ, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO FLY THE FLAG IN JUNE.

FINE. WE JUST NEED A POLICY.

THIS IS NOT AGAINST THAT FLAG.

IT'S NOT AGAINST THAT COMMUNITY.

IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND HOW WE DETERMINE THAT.

SO I HEARD STRONG REACTIONS TO SOME FLAGS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHRISTIAN FLAG.

THAT WAS A VERY STRONG REACTION THAT I HEARD.

I HEARD THAT I'M A TREASONOUS PERSON NOW.

SOMEHOW I GOT THERE.

I HEARD VERY STRONG REACTIONS TO THE CONFEDERATE FLAG, OBVIOUSLY.

RIGHT. I DID NOT BRING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG BEFORE YOU TO SAY I WANT TO FLY THESE FLAGS, NONE OF THEM. THESE WERE REQUESTS BY CONSTITUENTS.

I KNOW IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE.

I GET THAT. IT'S SHOCKING.

BUT THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A FLAG POLICY.

SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I HEARD YOUR VOICE.

I HEAR YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS WHAT YOU FEEL AND WHAT YOU THINK IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND I'D ASK YOU THE QUESTION, IF YOU WERE SITTING IN THIS POSITION, HOW WOULD YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION ON WHAT YOU DID FOR A CONSTITUENT OR WHAT YOU DIDN'T DO FOR A CONSTITUENT KNOWING THAT THERE'S LITIGATION OPEN TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD? IT'S IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR MY COLLEAGUES HELP.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

WE'LL TAKE A FEW MOMENTS FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO RESPOND IF YOU CHOOSE TO.

I'M GOING TO START. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ENERGY AROUND WHAT FLAGS WE'RE GOING TO FLY.

I'M SAD THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY SO MUCH TIME FROM OTHER ISSUES IN THE CITY.

WE HAVE RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY WHO ARE HOMELESS AND LIVING IN THE BACK SEATS OF THEIR CARS. WE HAVE A FENTANYL AND OPIATE OPIOID CRISIS GOING ON IN THE ENTIRE STATE.

WE HAVE INCREASED CRIME.

WE HAVE TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS.

WE TALKED ABOUT OUR YOUTH ON ON E-BIKES AND THE THE TRAGEDIES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN NOT JUST OUR CITY, BUT OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES.

WE HAVE BUDGET ISSUES AND IT GOES ON AND ON.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE GOT A LITTLE DERAILED BY TOO MUCH TIME SPENT ON FLAGS.

I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO BE HEARD, AND I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON AND TAKE CARE OF THE REST OF THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.

AND I APPRECIATE HOW MUCH ENERGY THERE IS BEHIND BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE.

BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET ON WITH THE REST OF THE BUSINESS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER VERY IMPORTANT BUSINESS AS WELL.

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I DO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE AND HOW EMOTIONAL FLAGS ARE.

WE DID HAVE A POLICY BROUGHT TO.

THIS COUNCIL A FEW WEEKS AGO, MAYBE A MONTH OR SO, A FLAG, A COMMEMORATIVE FLAG POLICY.

IT DID NOT PASS.

IT NEEDED A 4/5 VOTE.

IF IT WOULD HAVE PASSED THAT DAY, WE WOULD HAVE HAD A COMMEMORATIVE OR A FLAG POLICY.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE HERE TODAY.

MR. ACOSTA. THANK YOU.

I'M LOOKING AT THE THE AGENDA PACKET HERE.

AND THE REQUEST WAS TO FLY COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS.

THE ACTION WAS TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FROM MY COLLEAGUE TO DISCUSS CONSTITUENT REQUESTS TO FLY COMMEMORATIVE FLAGS.

IT DOES NOT TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF A FLAG POLICY.

REALLY. IT'S JUST THE REQUEST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE VARIOUS FLAGS.

I'M I THINK THAT DISCUSSION IS OVER.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD IT. WE MADE THE DECISION.

WE WILL FLY THE PRIDE FLAG EVERY JUNE.

WE'RE PROUD OF THAT. AND I VOTE NO.

I WOULD VOTE NO ON OPENING UP THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN FOR THIS VARIETY OF FLAGS.

THANKS. MISS BHAT-PATEL.

JUST A QUICK MENTION.

I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA MENTIONED, THAT WHEN THIS DISCUSSION WAS BROUGHT FORWARD, THERE WERE FOLKS THAT SAID THAT ON THIS COUNCIL THAT SAID WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE AND THAT WAS VOTED DOWN.

SO WITH THAT, I JUST I'M DONE WITH MY COMMENTS.

THANKS. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES THIS AGENDA ITEM.

AND THAT TAKES US BACK TO CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC COMMENT TO THOSE WHO DIDN'T HAVE A

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, BRIAN CONNER, FOLLOWED BY MIKE BORRELLO.

GOOD EVENING. BRIAN CONNOR, DISTRICT ONE.

I'M REVISITING THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CONTINUING MR. CONNOR, WILL YOU HOLD ON FOR ONE MOMENT? WE'RE GOING TO START YOUR TIME OVER.

PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE SO YOU'LL BE AS RESPECTFUL TO THE SPEAKER AS HE WAS TO ALL OF YOU. MR. CONNOR, PLEASE, PLEASE PROCEED.

I'M REVISITING THE ISSUE OF THE CONTINUING NOISE POLLUTION PROBLEMS THAT ARE EMANATING FROM THE POSEIDON, THE BROOKFIELD ASSET MANAGEMENT DESALINATION PLANT.

I LIVE ABOUT A MILE AWAY.

I'M ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON.

I'VE BEEN THERE.

I WAS THERE FOR 27 YEARS PRIOR TO THAT PLANT OPENING.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE I GOT DISCLOSURE ISSUE THAT I IGNORED.

THE THAT CONTINUING NOISE IS, ACCORDING TO THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, THAT SORT OF NOISE IS VERY HARMFUL TO HUMAN HEALTH.

AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE BY FAILING TO EVALUATE.

THIS SITUATION, YOU HAVE CREATED AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE CITIZENRY THAT MAY REPRESENT A TAKING OF PROPERTY.

IT'S A THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH.

I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY EQUIVALENT TO THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE EMERGENCY FOR FOR VEHICLE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. ET CETERA. WE'RE ENGAGING IN.

THE THIS.

THIS THERE WAS A FAULTY PERMITTING PROCESS THAT.

EVALUATED FOR THE PERMIT.

THE DBA A IS A REGISTRY FOR HIGH FREQUENCY SOUNDS THAT WE TYPICALLY ASSOCIATE WITH AIRCRAFT NOISE, RAILROAD, VEHICULAR NOISES OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER.

THE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEASURED IN DBC OR DB Z.

THESE ARE LOW FREQUENCY SOUND WAVES THAT ARE REGISTRIES.

SEE, WE'RE DEALING WITH WATER.

WATER IS 800 TIMES DENSER THAN AIR.

WHEN YOU PUMP ALL THAT WATER UPHILL, IT HAS A JUST A DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS.

AND THEY ARE THEY GO RIGHT THROUGH THE WALLS OF THE HOUSE.

I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE. THEY GO RIGHT THROUGH THE WALLS OF THE HOUSE AND THEY GO RIGHT THROUGH YOUR BODY. AND THEY THEY HAVE A VIBRATION AND IT INTERFERES WITH WITH YOUR BIOLOGY.

AND IT NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED.

WE CAN'T GO FORWARD WITH THIS KIND OF THING WHERE WE TURN PROPERTY, RESIDENTIAL AREAS

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IT'S JUST WRONG. AND I GO TO THE CITY, TO THE CITY MANAGER PRIMARILY ON THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO REALLY DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S HIS JOB.

IT'S HIS JOB TO DIRECT THIS BECAUSE AND IF HE DOESN'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE, HE HAS TO GO TO THE COUNTY. THAT'S THE LAW.

HE HAS TO GO TO THE COUNTY TO DEAL WITH THIS.

AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT YOU'RE THE FIDUCIARIES.

FIDUCIARIES NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY, BUT, IN MY VIEW, YOUR FIDUCIARIES FOR THE CITIZENRY OF THE CITY. THANK YOU.

MIKE PERILLO. I DON'T SEE HIM ANY OTHER.

NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. THIS BRINGS US TO CLOSING REMARKS, MISS LUNA.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE DISCUSSION ON ITEM 15, AND I WILL BE AT SANDAG ON FRIDAY. AND HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.

MISS ACOSTA. THANK YOU.

THIS MORNING, THE CITY COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MET HERE IN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WE MEET ABOUT ONCE A MONTH AND ANYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND AND PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT OR WATCH THE MEETING ONLINE.

WE DISCUSSED SOME ADDITIONAL BILLS THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE POSITIONS ON, INCLUDING THE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT E-BIKES, E-BIKE LICENSING.

WE ALWAYS HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR LEGISLATIVE OFFICES COME.

THAT'S CONGRESSMAN MIKE LEVIN OFFICE, CONGRESSMAN LEVIN'S OFFICE, STATE SENATOR CATHERINE BLAKE SPEERS OFFICE AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER, TASHA BERNER'S OFFICE.

THEY ALL COME AND THEY GIVE PRESENTATIONS.

WE TAKE POSITIONS ON BILLS AND THAT IS ALL ON THE RECORD.

SO ANYONE CAN WATCH THE VIDEOS OR LOOK AT THE MINUTES.

AND THEN THE NEXT ONE THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE WATER AUTHORITY, THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS, HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH THE DETACHMENT ISSUE THAT IS RAINBOW AND FALLBROOK, TWO DIFFERENT SMALL WATER DISTRICTS WANTING TO BREAK AWAY, AND THE LOCAL AREA FORMATION COMMITTEE, THE LAFCO FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY, DECIDED THAT THAT THEY WANTED TO APPROVE THAT.

SO THAT IS HAPPENING, APPENDING THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE DISTRICTS IN RAINBOW AND FALLBROOK. THERE MAY BE SOME STATE LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTS THAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE BIG THING THAT'S HAPPENING AT THE WATER AUTHORITY.

ASIDE FROM THAT, I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THE GENERAL MANAGER IS CHANGING.

SANDY CURL HAS RETIRED AND WE HAVE AN INTERIM GENERAL MANAGER.

SO WE WILL BE HIRING A NEW GENERAL MANAGER FOR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY.

THOSE ARE MY UPDATES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MISS BHAT-PATEL NONE TODAY.

THANKS. CITY MANAGER REMARKS.

CITY ATTORNEY NONE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY CLERK.

NOTHING. THANK YOU. OKAY.

I HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR COUNCIL ON TUESDAY, JULY 18TH AT 3:00 PM.

WE WILL HAVE THE CITIZEN, THE 2022 CITIZEN OF THE YEAR CEREMONY RIGHT HERE AT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. ALSO, I'M GOING TO ADJOURN TONIGHT'S MEETING IN HONOR OF MICHAEL ZUBAYDAH, SENIOR WHO PASSED AWAY ON JUNE 17TH OF THIS YEAR.

MR. ZEPEDA SENIOR WAS A CARLSBAD RESIDENT FOR OVER 64 YEARS.

HE MADE CARLSBAD HIS HOME AFTER SERVING AS A UNITED STATES MARINE STATIONED AT CAMP PENDLETON. HE MARRIED ANOTHER LONGTIME CARLSBAD RESIDENT, LUPE SOTELO.

HE WAS ACTIVE. HE WAS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE BARRIO COMMUNITY, WHERE HE RAISED HIS THREE CHILDREN AND WELCOMED HIS SEVEN GRANDCHILDREN AND EIGHT GREAT GRANDCHILDREN.

MICHAEL WAS ALSO AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE SAINT PATRICK'S CHURCH AND VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME SERVING CARLSBAD YOUTH AS A LITTLE LEAGUE ASSISTANT COACH AND WITH THE LOCAL SCOUTING COMMUNITY.

HE LEAVES BEHIND A GREAT LEGACY AND WILL BE MISSED.

I'M ADJOURNING TONIGHT'S MEETING IN MEMORY OF MICHAEL ZUBAYDAH SENIOR.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.