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5:00 AND I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER:]
PLEASE TAKE A ROLL.ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT AND I INVITE CITY MANAGER TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.
PLEASE PLACE YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND REPEAT AFTER ME.
ALLEGIANCE] NEXT IS PRESENTATIONS.
[PRESENTATIONS:]
I INVITE SUZANNE SMITHSON TO PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.THANK YOU, MAYOR. I AM SUZANNE SMITHSON, THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DIRECTOR.
ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION TO THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT FROM LONGTIME LIBRARY PATRONS GEORGE AND CONSTANCE KRELL.
SADLY, MRS. KRELL PASSED AWAY JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, BUT AND MR. KRELL WAS INTENDING ON BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
BUT WE JUST FOUND OUT THAT HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
THE KRELLS CHOSE TO DONATE $100,000 TO THE LIBRARY AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SINCERELY THANK MR. KRELL FOR THIS DONATION.
THE KRELLS SELECTED THE LIBRARY IN APPRECIATION OF THEIR MANY YEARS OF ENJOYMENT FROM THE LIBRARY'S BOOKS AND PROGRAMS. THIS DONATION WILL BE USED FOR NEW SEATING AND TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL LARGE PRINT BOOKS FOR OUR COMMUNITY'S READING NEEDS.
WE WILL RECOGNIZE GEORGE AND CONSTANCE WITH A PLAQUE PLACED ON PURCHASED SEATING WITH WHAT WE CALL BOOK PLATES IN EACH BOOK PURCHASED WITH THIS DONATION HONORING THE KRELLS. WE'RE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR THIS DONATION AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THESE FUNDS TO GROW OUR LARGE PRINT COLLECTION FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
THE DONATION FROM THE KRELLS WILL SURELY HELP US FURTHER OUR MISSION, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF ALL AGES WITH CONVENIENT ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY RESOURCES AND SERVICES TO INFORM AND ENRICH INDIVIDUAL AND COMMUNITY LIFE.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS DONATION.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
I'M SUPPOSED TO READ THE FOLLOWING.THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.
ALL OTHER NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HELD TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.
AT THE 2.5 MINUTE MARK, THE PODIUM WILL TURN YELLOW, GIVING YOU A NOTICE THAT YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.
MIKE PERILLO, FOLLOWED BY WALT MYER.
AFTER ME. GOOD EVENING, MIKE BARILLO, LONG TIME RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD NOW.
SO THIS IS 155 PAGE INJUNCTION AGAINST THE US GOVERNMENT THAT WAS ISSUED BY JUDGE DOWDY, JUDGE TERRY DOWDY IN MISSOURI VERSUS BIDEN, THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF LOUISIANA.
SO THE PLAINTIFFS COMPLAINED THAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS ENGAGED IN ORWELLIAN CENSORSHIP.
HE FOUND THAT THE COMPLAINT WAS VALID AND HE ISSUED THE INJUNCTION.
WHAT WAS EXTRAORDINARY IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CAME BACK NOT TOO SOON AFTER OR VERY SOON AFTER ASKING FOR AN EMERGENCY STAY OF THE INJUNCTION, BASICALLY ADMITTING THAT THEY WERE CENSORING.
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THIS IS IN SOCIAL MEDIA.BUT IT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE NATION.
A MONUMENTAL DECISION MARKS THREE YEARS OF OUR INTRODUCTION TO A TOTALITARIAN STATE.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE LIVED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
AND THE WAY WE HANDLE PUBLIC SPEECH, FREE SPEECH.
AND THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T CLAP AT A MEETING GOES AGAINST OUR FREE SPEECH.
AND YOU KNOW, EVERY BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOWN HAS ADOPTED WHAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT IN, AND THEY'VE WEAPONIZED IT AGAINST THE PEOPLE.
AND THIS IS WHAT DOUGHTY SAID IN HIS DECISION.
WE COULDN'T GET THE INFORMATION OUT.
AND THIS CITY, THIS COUNTY, THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THAT CENSORSHIP.
AND IF IT'S NOT REVERSED, I'M SUING.
I'M GOING TO SUE AS SOON AS I'M DONE WITH MY LAWSUIT NOW.
I'M IN A LAWSUIT RIGHT NOW, I'M TOO BUSY.
BUT MY NEXT ONE WILL BE GETTING AN INJUNCTION ON THE CITY, ON THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
ENOUGH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLAP.
GO AHEAD, BOO. OR CLAP FOR ME.
THANK YOU. I NOTICED THAT THE HOUR CLOCK UP THERE IS A NEW YORK TIME AND I WAS WONDERING IF I'D GET A THREE MINUTES NEW YORK TIME OR DO I GET A CALIFORNIA THREE MINUTES? MY NAME IS WALT MEIER.
I RAN FOR MAYOR AT THE SAME TIME THAT KEITH RAN FOR MAYOR BACK IN 2010.
THIS PAST WINTER, WE HAD OVER 24IN OF RAIN.
ONE OF MY TESTED THE PH ON AND IT WAS 4.2, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF NITRATES COMING DOWN AND IT TURNS ALL OUR VEGETATION INTO BEANSTALKS.
AND SO NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER PROBLEM.
WE HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH OVERGROWTH IN OUR PARKS AND ESPECIALLY VILLAGE H AND IT'S ALL DRIED UP NOW.
AND THIS PAST WINTER WE HAD AN EXCEPTIONAL AMOUNT OF WINDS.
AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT THE SANTA ANA WINDS DON'T DISPLAY THE SAME WINDS THAT WE HAD THIS WINTER, BECAUSE IF THERE IS IF SOMEBODY FLIPS A CIGARETTE SOMEWHERE IN OUR PARKS, IT COULD CAUSE A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH PEOPLE'S HOMES.
AND SO I'M JUST PUTTING THE CITY COUNCIL ON NOTICE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PARKS, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF VEGETATION THAT'S NOW DEAD AND THERE'S A LOT OF FUEL OUT THERE.
AND I HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU. NIKKI RODEN, FOLLOWED BY KATRINA [INAUDIBLE].
I'M JUST GOING TO TOSS IT. I'LL JUST STAND THERE.
ALL RIGHTY. OKAY, SO MY NAME IS NIKKI RUTTEN.
I THINK WE'RE ON FOURTH GENERATION CARLSBAD RESIDENTS AND A PARENT HERE AND A DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT.
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THE JULY HUMAN LIBRARY EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE AT OUR HOME AWAY FROM HOME, THE GEORGINA COLE LIBRARY WAS AN INCREDIBLE EVENT.ALLOW ME TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND THE CARLSBAD CITY LIBRARY FOR ORGANIZING THIS EVENT, ESPECIALLY MELINDA PATULA, WHO RAN THE EVENT ALONG WITH THE AMAZING LIBRARY STAFF.
WHO ARE SOME OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY? YES, THIS EVENT HIGHLIGHTED LOCAL COLLEGE PROFESSORS, A DRAG ARTIST AND LGBTQAI PLUS HISTORIANS, A HUMAN LIBRARY, A CONCEPT THAT ORIGINATED IN DENMARK, IS A UNIQUE AND INTERACTIVE EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVE.
THE CARLSBAD LIBRARY, THROUGH THEIR JULY HUMAN LIBRARY EVENT, CREATED AN EXCEPTIONAL PLATFORM FOR PEOPLE TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS, BROADEN THEIR PERSPECTIVES, AND BREAK DOWN THE BARRIERS THAT SEPARATE US.
THIS PANEL INCLUDED EXPERTS IN OUR COUNTY.
SMITHSON, WHO WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ENSURE THE SUCCESS OF THE EVENT.
AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DISRUPTION WHERE PEOPLE FELT UNSAFE.
AND IT WAS THE ROLE OF THE LIBRARY STAFF TO RESPECTFULLY ASK HER TO STEP OUTSIDE WHERE SHE SPOKE TO A LIBRARY STAFF MEMBER FOR ALMOST AN HOUR ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND LEFT POSITIVE. THE EVENT EXEMPLIFIED THE POWER OF EDUCATION TO TRANSCEND STEREOTYPES AND CREATE A MORE INCLUSIVE, COMPASSIONATE SOCIETY.
LET US APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS MADE BY THE LIBRARY AND THE COMPASSIONATE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EVENT, NOT ONLY IN EDUCATIONAL AND INSPIRING, BUT ALSO INNOVATIVE IN ITS APPROACH.
RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE NOT POST THE CITY RUNS THAT WE WOULD LOVE AS A MOM EVENTS.
WE JUST WANT TO CHAZ THE DRUM CIRCLE.
CAN THEY POST PICTURES DO THEY HAVE TO GET EVERYTHING APPROVED? CAN THEY PLEASE HAVE THEIR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT? I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY VITAL FOR THE WORLD THAT WE'RE IN.
I'M A MOM. I HAVE A FRIEND HERE.
SHE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. I TOLD HER SHE CAME.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT IN OUR CITY AND FOR OUR LIBRARY.
HELLO, KATRINA WEIDLICH, CARLSBAD RESIDENT AND PARENT OF TWO CHILDREN.
IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION THAT RECENTLY A RESIDENT WHO ATTENDED A PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL MEETING CRITICIZED AND SPREAD MISINFORMATION ABOUT CARLSBAD CITY LIBRARIES AND THEIR PROGRAMS. IT BROKE MY HEART TO HEAR SUCH HORRIBLE THINGS ABOUT OUR CITY LIBRARIES THAT HAVE DONE SO MUCH FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S COMING FROM A TEACHER WHO KNOWS THE IMPORTANCE OF READING.
WHEN I WAS A NEW MOM, I CAME TO COUNTLESS CHILDREN'S EVENTS.
THESE EVENTS NOT ONLY PROVIDED ME A NEW MOM, A MUCH NEEDED BREAK, BUT THEY HELPED TEACH MY KIDS THE VITAL QUALITIES NEEDED TO BE A POSITIVE, CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF SOCIETY, SUCH AS SHARING JOY, COMPASSION, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HOW TO LEARN FROM AND CELEBRATE STORIES.
TODAY I RECEIVED AN INVITATION FROM MY FRIEND ABOUT A LIBRARY EVENT THIS AFTERNOON.
WE ARE KIDS TOGETHER AND ADULTS PARTICIPATED IN A DRUM CIRCLE WITH A DYNAMIC PRESENTER, MR. CHAZ. AN OPPORTUNITY WE NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IN SCHOOL OR ON OUR OWN.
I, AS THE PARENT, KNOW WHAT IS AND IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR MY CHILD.
I SIMPLY MOVED ON TO ANOTHER BOOK.
AS RAY BRADBURY SAID, WITHOUT LIBRARIES, WHAT WOULD WHAT HAVE WE? WE HAVE NO PAST AND NO FUTURE.
SO TODAY I REQUEST TWO THINGS.
ONE, CONTINUE OFFERING ENRICHING AND DIVERSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY AND LEARNING, LEARNING THROUGH LIBRARY EVENTS FOR ALL AGES TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC LIBRARY TO POST THEIR EVENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA UNDER THEIR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS.
WE NEED THE SAME FOR OUR LIBRARIES.
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THANK YOU. AND KEEP READING.THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOOSE TO PULL ANY.DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ONE THROUGH SEVEN? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.
MOVE. CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN.
[8. UPDATING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 7.08 TO REFLECT CITY’S CONTRACT WITH THE SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY AND ADOPTING USER FEES RELATED TO ANIMAL CONTROL AND REGULATION – 1)]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.YES, THANK YOU, SIR. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS UPDATING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 7.08 TO REFLECT THE CITY'S CONTRACT WITH THE SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY AND ADOPTING USER FEES RELATED TO ANIMAL CONTROL AND REGULATION.
MAKING THIS THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR POLICE CAPTAIN, REED SHIPLEY.
AND MY APOLOGIES, ALSO OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, MARISSA GALLUCCI.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL THANKS FOR HAVING US TODAY.
IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION, WE'LL BE ADDRESSING AN UPDATE TO AN AMENDMENT TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE 7.08, WHICH IS REFERENCED TO RABIES AND ANIMAL CONTROL AND OTHER SIMILAR REGULATIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND THAT LED UP TO THIS UPDATE, AS WELL AS THE CHANGES AND REVISIONS TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND THEN THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY, WHO IS OUR VENDOR FOR ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES.
WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT SUPPORTS THAT, THAT CONTRACT WITH SAN DIEGO COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY NEEDED UPDATING TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND TO JUST REINFORCE AND CLARIFY THEIR ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY, INCLUDING FOR ABATEMENT ACTIONS AS WELL AS THEIR ABILITY TO CHARGE USER FEES FOR ANIMAL CONTROL ACTIONS AND SERVICES AND TO AMEND THOSE FEES.
SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY.
ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY OBJECTIVES IS FOR ADOPTIONS AND FOR SHELTERING.
THE HUMANE SOCIETY OPERATES FOUR SHELTERS WITHIN THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
THE CLOSEST ONE IS WITHIN OCEANSIDE, AND THAT'S THE ONE WE HAVE THE MOST INTERACTION WITH.
CARLSBAD POLICE IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO RESPOND AND HELP AND MAKE SURE IT'S A SAFE SCENARIO.
BUT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES THAT CONDUCT ALL THE FOLLOW UP.
SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE THAT MANY PEOPLE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE AWARE OF.
ONE OF THE ONE OF THE SERVICES IS CALLED THE SAFETY NET FOSTER PROGRAM.
ONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS IS WHEN WE HAVE CRIME VICTIMS AND THE CRIME VICTIM HAVING A PET.
A SAFETY NET FOSTER PROGRAM WOULD ALLOW THEM TO GET THAT GET THAT PET INTO THE HUMANE SOCIETY, ALLOW IT TO HAVE A TEMPORARY SAFE PLACE TO BE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO THAT VICTIM.
ONE OF THE OTHER GREAT THINGS ABOUT OUR CONTRACT WITH THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY.
SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY IS THEIR ZERO EUTHANASIA COMMITMENT.
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ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR SOME KIND OF MEDICAL REASON.SO THE HUMANE SOCIETY IS ABLE TO TAKE THOSE ANIMALS, PROVIDE THEM CARE, AND THEY ARE COMMITTED TO RETURNING THEM BACK TO THEIR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE BACK AND FREE. SO.
THE PROPOSED FEE RESOLUTION RESOLUTION WILL ALLOW THE HUMANE SOCIETY TO MAINTAIN THEIR FEE SCHEDULE AND INCREASE THEM AS NEEDED BASED UPON THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE.
SO THEY ARE FOR THE USERS WHO GO AND UTILIZE THE HUMANE SOCIETY SERVICES AND THE FEE SCHEDULE IS NOT SIGNIFICANT OR OVERLY BURDENSOME ON THE INDIVIDUALS USING THEM. FINALLY, IT'S STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO BOTH INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 7.08, AS WELL AS ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO UPDATE THE USER FEES FOR THE RECOVERY OF ANIMAL CONTROL COSTS.
WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? NO MAYOR, CAN YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE? THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.
OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ONE QUICK QUESTION. WE TALK ABOUT THE FEES.
DOES HUMANE SOCIETY PROVIDE LIKE A SLIDING SCALE FOR SOMEBODY WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE FEES, TO BE ABLE TO TO STILL COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE REGULATIONS? YEAH, CORRECT.
GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS? PLEASE VOTE. OH, MOTION, PLEASE.
I'M SORRY. I DON'T MEAN TO DISRUPT YOU FURTHER.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TITLE THAT ORDINANCE? CAN WE JUST START OVER? YEAH. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE, CHAPTER 7.08, RABIES, ANIMAL CONTROL AND REGULATION.
MOVE. INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE AS RECITED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. THERE WAS ALSO A RESOLUTION ATTACHED TO THAT LAST ITEM.
OKAY. LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION.
MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, I PROMISE THINGS WILL GO SMOOTHER ON THE NEXT ONE.
[9. CARLSBAD TOMORROW GROWTH MANAGEMENT CITIZENS COMMITTEE REPORT – Adoption of a resolution accepting the Carlsbad Tomorrow: Growth Management Citizens Committee’s Report and directing staff to return to the City Council with an implementation program and options to update the Growth Management Program consistent with the committee’s recommendations three months after the completion of the Housing Element Rezoning Program. (Staff contact: Eric Lardy, Community Services Department)]
ITEM NUMBER NINE, CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS THE CARLSBAD TOMORROW GROWTH MANAGEMENT CITIZENS REVIEW COMMITTEE REPORT AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR CITY PLANNER, ERIC LARDY, ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
DUDE I KNOW, BUT THIS IS LIKE, ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M DRAWING A BLANK, AND IT'S JEFF MURPHY.
FIRST, I WILL START WITH A PRESENT, AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PRESENTATION.
I'LL LOOK AT AN OVERVIEW OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, BACKGROUND AND HISTORY.
THEN I WILL TALK ABOUT THE FORMATION OF THE CARLSBAD TOMORROW GROWTH MANAGEMENT CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
THE OVERALL RECOMMENDED ACTION IS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE REPORT FROM THE CARLSBAD TOMORROW GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND DIRECT STAFF TO RETURN WITH A SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM THREE MONTHS AFTER COMPLETION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT REZONING PROGRAM.
SO WE'LL START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
IN THE 1980S, CARLSBAD HAD A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND.
IT WAS AND WAS EXPERIENCING A PERIOD OF RAPID DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.
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THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY COMPONENTS OF OUR PROGRAM.ONE IS TO ENSURE THAT PUBLIC FACILITIES LIKE ROADS, UTILITIES AND PARKS ARE PROVIDED CONCURRENT WITH AND FUNDED BY DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE ADEQUATE FACILITIES ARE PROVIDED. THE CITY ESTABLISHED STANDARDS FOR 11 FACILITIES.
THESE GOALS ARE IMPLEMENTED BY FOUR DOCUMENTS.
THE 1986 BALLOT INITIATIVE THAT SET THE HOUSING UNIT CAPS BY QUADRANTS.
AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL THAT SAME YEAR TO ESTABLISH THE PROGRAM.
THESE ARE THE 11 STANDARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE CITYWIDE FACILITY PLAN.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE 25 LOCAL FACILITY MANAGEMENT ZONES WHERE EACH PLAN WAS CREATED.
EACH ZONE HAD TO HAVE A PLAN CREATED.
THESE PLANS INCLUDED LAND DEDICATED FOR OPEN SPACE AND COST SHARING AGREEMENTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE DWELLING UNIT CAPS FOR EACH QUADRANT, WHICH WAS 54,599 DWELLINGS.
THE CURRENT ESTIMATE OF UNITS IN THE CITY IS 48,687 UNITS.
SO WHILE WE HAVE NOT YET HIT THAT CAP, THE CITY IS GETTING CLOSER AND IS ENTERING A NEW PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT WITH LESS MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES TO DEVELOP AND MORE INFILL DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS THAT AN APPROACH IS NECESSARY TO UPDATE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
IT IS GUIDED THE CITY FOR 30 YEARS, BUT WE'RE NOW APPROACHING THAT UNIT GAP.
ADDITIONALLY, IN RECENT YEARS, STATE LAWS HAVE BEEN PASSED THAT FOCUS ON HOUSING BY MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR CITIES TO DENY HOUSING PROJECTS AND PUTTING FURTHER RESTRICTIONS ON LOCAL CONTROL RELATED TO HOUSING PRODUCTION.
THE DWELLING UNIT CAPS AND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROGRAM NOW CONFLICT WITH STATE LAWS.
THEREFORE, TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AND BASED ON GUIDANCE FROM STATE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED A RESOLUTION IN APRIL 2021 AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN HOUSING ELEMENT THAT FOUND THAT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROGRAM DWELLING CAPS WERE UNENFORCEABLE AND PREEMPTED BY STATE LAW.
THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING REGULATIONS AND OTHER MASTER PLANS.
THE GENERAL PLAN WAS COMPREHENSIVELY UPDATED IN 2015 AND SHOWS FUTURE LAND USES.
THE CITY HAS A SHARE OF HOUSING UNITS IT NEEDS TO ACCOMMODATE DURING THE PERIOD OF 2021 TO 2029 AND OUR SHARE OF UNITS WAS 3897 UNITS. AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE REZONING PROGRAM THAT'S REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE THESE UNITS IS OUT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW NOW AND MUST BE COMPLETED BY APRIL 2024.
AFTER THE YEAR 2029, IT'S LIKELY THAT THERE WOULD BE A NEW ALLOCATION ASSIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A NEW STATE LAWS TO IMPLEMENT AS PART OF THAT ACCOMMODATION IN RESPONSE TO ALL OF THESE OCCURRING AND TO IMPLEMENT A GOAL OF THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN, A CITIZENS COMMITTEE WAS FORMED IN MARCH 2022 TO DISCUSS THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
THE COMMITTEE'S MISSION WAS TO CONSIDER A RANGE OF PERSPECTIVES ON ISSUES AFFECTING THE FUTURE GROWTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN CARLSBAD AND MAINTAIN KEY ELEMENTS OF A NEW PLAN TO MANAGE GROWTH IN A WAY THAT MAINTAINS AN EXCELLENT QUALITY OF LIFE WHILE ALSO COMPLYING WITH STATE LAW.
THE COMMITTEE MET 15 TIMES OVER THE YEAR AND THERE WERE PRESENTATIONS FROM CITY STAFF, OTHER AGENCIES ON THE CITY'S PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, INFORMATION ABOUT GROWTH PROJECTIONS, AND EXPLORING POTENTIAL NEW TOPICS FOR THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
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ANOTHER COMMON CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THE COMMITTEE WAS HOW TO MANAGE GROWTH BEST GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS OF STATE LAW.MORATORIUMS OF STANDARDS ARE NOT MET.
THE CURRENT STATE LAWS MAKE THE DWELLING UNIT CAP AND MORATORIUMS PROVISION ILLEGAL.
SO WHAT THE PROGRAM UPDATE CAN ENSURE IS FOCUSING ON THOSE MEASURES IN A PERIOD OF GROWTH THAT INCLUDES LESS MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES AND IS MORE RELIANT ON THE EIGHT YEAR HOUSING ELEMENT CYCLE.
ALL COMMITTEE MEETINGS WERE HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RALPH BROWN ACT AND WERE NOTICED AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, PROVIDED OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC INPUT AND STREAMED LIVE ON THE CITY'S INPUT.
ADDITIONALLY, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE ENGAGED AND KEPT INFORMED THROUGH COMMITTEE PROCESS USING SOCIAL MEDIA, TARGETED EMAILS AND NEWSLETTERS, AND A CITY WEBSITE DEDICATED TO THIS PROGRAM'S HISTORY AND THE COMMITTEE'S WORK.
THE COMMITTEE'S DRAFT REPORT WAS PUT OUT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED WERE ALL DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMITTEE DURING THE FINALIZATION OF THE REPORT PROCESS. I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO ERIC LARSON, WHO WILL GO OVER THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF YOU JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. EVERYBODY WAS ON THE COMMITTEE, ALTERNATES, EVERYBODY.
SO WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SHOWING HERE.
AND WE HAD GREAT SHOWINGS AT THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
IT WAS JUST REALLY, REALLY A VERY ENGAGED GROUP.
WE HAD FOLKS WHO HAD JUST MOVED TO CARLSBAD.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE WHO HAD A LIFETIME IN CARLSBAD, EACH MEMBER'S AREA OF INTEREST OR EXPERTISE AND THEN COOPERATION AND PARTICIPATION IN ALL OUR CONVERSATION WAS REALLY THE KEY TO GETTING THE WORK DONE THAT WE DID.
NOT ALL VOTES WERE UNANIMOUS, WHICH WAS GOOD BECAUSE IT OFTEN HAPPENED THAT THE MINORITY MAYBE MOVED THE WHOLE GROUP A LITTLE BIT AND MAY HAVE RESULTED IN SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HAD IN WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
HOWEVER, WE WERE UNANIMOUS IN DECIDING THAT THOSE ALTERNATE PERSPECTIVES SHOULD BE IN THE REPORT.
SO WHEN YOU SPEND TIME ON IT, YOU WILL SEE THOSE MINORITY PERSPECTIVES IN THE REPORT.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL VOICES, ALL VOICES WERE HEARD.
I THINK MR. LARDY IS GOING TO CONTROL THE SLIDES FOR ME.
OKAY. WE HAVE TWO PARTS OF OUR REPORT WE'RE GIVING TO YOU.
FIRST IS OUR COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE WERE CHARGED TO DO.
BUT I'LL EXPLAIN THE SECOND PART WHEN I GET TO THAT, AS WELL.
AS ERIC LARDY SAID, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.
AND THEN ALSO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SAN DIEGO ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT MET WITH US AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT THOSE AREAS THAT WERE REGIONAL IN MATTER TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
NOW, IF WE GET RIGHT TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN AND MR. LARDY TOLD YOU ABOUT WHAT THOSE WERE, WE HAD FIVE OF THE 11 STANDARDS WE BELIEVE SHOULD STAND AS THEY ARE.
WE DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE CHANGES IN THOSE FIRST ONE BEING THE LIBRARIES.
BUT WE WERE ASSURED BY LIBRARY STAFF THAT THE EVOLVING NATURE OF LIBRARIES, THE SPACE THAT'S ALLOCATED TO OUR LIBRARIES, IS ADEQUATE FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD MOVING INTO THE FUTURE.
SO NO CHANGE IN THAT STANDARD.
WE HAD PARKS IS ONE OF THE PARKS.
OPEN SPACE AND MOBILITY WERE THE THREE AREAS WHERE WE SPENT THE MAJORITY OF OUR TIME.
WE LOOKED AT HOW CARLSBAD COMPARES TO OTHER CITIES WITH OUR THREE ACRES PER THOUSAND.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE FURTHER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
THE NEXT ONE THEN WOULD BE ON THE CIRCULATION AND MOBILITY.
WE AGAIN, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.
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THERE'S BEEN SINCE THE 1980S, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FROM PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLES, E-BIKES, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON.BUT IN THE END, WE LOOKED AT THESE THINGS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IS MET WITH ALL MODES OF TRAVEL.
A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT IN JUST A SECOND AS WELL.
ON DRAINAGE, OF COURSE, DRAINAGE IS IMPORTANT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLACES THAT FLOOD.
WE WANT TO MOVE WATER THROUGH THE CITY VERY QUICKLY WHEN THERE'S RAIN EVENTS.
AND SO WE DECIDED THAT THAT STANDARD SHOULD STAY.
EXACTLY. IT IS THERE SHOULD BE NO EXEMPTION FROM THAT AS WELL.
AND THE SAME ON THE SEWER COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT IS BEFORE IT GETS TO THE SEWER TREATMENT PLANT.
ALL THE OBLIGATIONS ON THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME.
ON PROVIDING THE SEWER COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT'S BUILT THAT'S BUILT IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
OF THE 11, AFTER A LOT OF STUDY, WE DECIDED THERE WERE FOUR ELEMENTS OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT STANDARD THAT WE THINK THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATION TO REMOVE FROM THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, NOT BECAUSE THE NEED OR THE IMPORTANCE HAS GONE AWAY, BUT FOR INSTANCE, ONE ON WASTEWATER CAPACITY, AS YOU KNOW, AND AT LEAST 1 OR 2 OF YOU SIT ON THE ENCINO WASTEWATER BOARD THROUGH THAT JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY.
OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT IS TAKEN CARE OF.
SO FROM A WASTEWATER TREATMENT CAPACITY, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
THE JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY IS TAKING CARE OF THAT FOR US.
SO WE REALLY DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT AS A STANDARD IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THE NEXT ONE IS THE CITY ADMINISTRATIVE FACILITIES.
I'M SURE YOU'VE KNOWN ABOUT THAT.
YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD REPORTS IN THE ADMINISTRATION.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT PLANS FOR A NEW CITY HALL.
AND WE WE WERE ASSURED BY CITY STAFF THAT THE STANDARD IS UNNECESSARY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FOR ENOUGH OFFICE SPACE FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD.
AND OUR STANDARD WAS A RESPONSE TIME STANDARD.
AND WE WERE BASICALLY TOLD, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ANYMORE.
WE HAVE ALL THESE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS WITH COMMUNITIES AROUND US.
WE'VE GOT A NICE NETWORK OF STATIONS IN THE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
AND SO WE HAVE BEST PRACTICES, THERE'S ANNUAL REVIEWS, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY MAKE IT A GROWTH MANAGEMENT STANDARD.
HOW DOES THAT NEW HOUSE IN SOME PARTICULAR PART OF CARLSBAD GET INVOLVED IN THAT? AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT CAN BE REMOVED FROM THAT.
THERE NEVER WAS A POLICING STANDARD IN THE PREVIOUS GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
AFTER MEETING WITH THE POLICE CHIEF.
WE CONTINUE TO AGREE THERE WOULD NOT BE A POLICING STANDARD WITH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN BECAUSE THERE JUST WASN'T THAT DIRECT CONNECT BETWEEN DEMANDS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE GROWTH TAKING PLACE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
ANOTHER ONE, THE LAST ONE, ARE THE ONES WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR REMOVAL IS THE SCHOOL STANDARD.
THAT'S FOR THEM TO DECIDE AND FOR US TO HAVE IN OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND AND FOLKS ARE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO WE SUGGEST THAT BE REMOVED AS WELL.
NOW, ON PARKS, WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH A NEW STANDARD FOR PARKS, BUT WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER BASICALLY COMING OUT OF DISCUSSION FROM THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE CITY.
WAS THE LACK OF PARK COVERAGE IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TOOLS WE NEEDED TO REALLY MAKE THAT TOTAL CONSIDERATION ON THAT, BUT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY DO DO THE WORK TO EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF CREATING AND IMPLEMENTING A DISTANCE BASED STANDARD FOR PARKS.
SO WE HAVE THIS ACREAGE STANDARD THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT SOME PEOPLE FEEL THAT'S GREAT.
OR THE PARK CLOSEST TO ME IS IS A HALF A MILE ALL UPHILL.
SO WE WE ARE REQUESTING AND AGAIN, WE DID NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES.
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THE STAFF DID NOT HAVE THAT INVENTORY TO LOOK AT ALL PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PARKS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THERE COULD BE OR SHOULD BE A STANDARD ON THE DISTANCE TO PARKS IN EACH QUADRANT OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.WE HAD TWO ITEMS OF THE ELEMENTS OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT WE THINK SHOULD BE MODIFIED.
THE FIRST ONE IS PRETTY SIMPLE, AND THAT'S ON THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
WITHIN THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, WE STILL THINK WE NEED TO RETAIN THE STANDARD THAT DEVELOPMENT PUTS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE NETWORK TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY. ABSOLUTELY.
AND SINCE 1986, THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY HAS ESTABLISHED ITS EMERGENCY STORAGE PROJECT.
SO WE'RE A MEMBER THE CITY WELL, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, THE MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, IS A MEMBER OF THE COUNTY OF WATER AUTHORITY, AND STORAGE COMES FROM THAT AGENCY TO THEN HAVE A DUPLICATIVE STANDARD FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO HAVE A TEN DAY WATER SUPPLY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NICE OPERATIONALLY TO HAVE THAT, I'M SURE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. SO WE'RE NOT BUYING WATER EVERY DAY AND THE OPERATIONS, BUT WE THINK HAVE IT IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROGRAM REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT ISN'T ISN'T ISN'T NECESSARY. ALSO ON A MODIFICATION ON THE ON ON THE OPEN SPACE AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE OPEN SPACE STANDARD, WE DID VOTE.
WE WANT THE OPEN SPACE STANDARD TO STAY AS IT IS.
WE WANT THAT REQUIREMENT TO BE THERE.
BUT WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
AND IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO EXPLAIN IT TO US.
THESE REQUIREMENTS FOR OPEN SPACE BY THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT ZONES.
AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY DIMINISHING.
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OPEN SPACE DIMINISHED WITHIN THE CITY AT ALL.
SO WE THINK WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THIS TO MODIFY THAT STANDARD, TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT IS THE CITY POLICIES WITHIN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THEN LOOK AT OTHER POLICIES AND OTHER PLACES WHERE THESE OPEN SPACE ITEMS EXIST.
THE 15% OPEN SPACE WAS WAS IMPORTANT WITH EACH OF THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT PLANS.
SO WE THINK THAT CLARITY NEEDS, NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND WE'RE ASKING YOU THAT YOU GIVE THAT THAT CONSIDERATION.
AND OUR STUDY BROUGHT US TO A FEW CONCLUSIONS IN REGARDS TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN FIRST.
THE PLAN WAS A CRITICAL TOOL WHEN CARLSBAD EXPERIENCED ITS GREATEST PERIOD OF GROWTH.
THE PERIOD IS OVER AND THE PLAN WORKED REALLY WELL.
WE ARE WHERE WE ARE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
SECOND, THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN PLACES BURDENS ON NEWLY ARRIVED RESIDENTS, THE DEVELOPERS OR WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS TO FACILITIES THAT THEY CAUSE. THAT SHOULD CONTINUE.
WE AGREE ON THOSE ONES THAT WE GO FORWARD.
THEREFORE, ANY NEW OR INCREASED GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN STANDARDS WOULD BE A SEVERE BURDEN ON THOSE FEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE YET TO ARRIVE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND THERE WOULD BE MINOR CITYWIDE BENEFIT.
WE HAVE A THREE ACRE PER THOUSAND STANDARD IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT GOING TO FOUR.
BUT IF WE GO TO FOUR, IT ONLY APPLIES FOR THAT FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T ARRIVED IN CARLSBAD YET.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE A LONG WAY BECAUSE OF COURSE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN CANNOT GO BACKWARDS AND APPLY ITSELF TO WHATEVER POPULATION ALREADY IS HERE TODAY.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE DIDN'T FEEL IT MADE SENSE TO TAKE A BRAND NEW STANDARD AND PUT IT ON THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT HERE YET OR INCREASE SOME STANDARD THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. THAT BRINGS ME NOW TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU DIDN'T ASK US TO DO THIS, BUT WE DID IT ANYWAY.
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CAME TO US. ERIC, GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT SLIDE.THIS IS NOT AN THIS IS NOT AN THERE THIS IS NOT A COMPLETELY INCLUSIVE LIST.
WE HAD MORE THINGS ON THIS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAN THIS.
YES, WE WERE TOLD TO WORK ON THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, BUT WE LOOKED AT ALL THESE THINGS AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE GOT 38 VERY ENGAGED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HERE.
LET'S WORK ON THIS QUALITY OF LIFE EFFORT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A SEPARATE DOCUMENT WE'RE PROVIDING TO YOU, WHICH WE'RE CALLING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE TOPICS OR WHAT WE END UP I FORGET WHAT OUR ACTUAL TITLE OF IT WAS, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS A SEPARATE DOCUMENT.
THIS IS NOT A PIECE OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
TAKE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE FOR YOU.
DO WITH YOU AS YOU MAY, AND THAT MAY TAKE SOME TIME.
WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT THESE QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND DEAL WITH THEM.
RIGHT NOW, WE'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT THESE, UNDERSTAND THEM AND AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT THESE 38 MEMBERS OF YOUR COMMUNITY INVESTIGATED THESE THINGS AND TALKED ABOUT THEM. SO AGAIN, BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS ALL OF THEM LISTED UP THERE.
OF ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, GO BACK TO THE ONE.
BUT I DO WANT TO BRING UP ONE HERE ON THIS LIST, AND THAT'S PONTO PARK.
WE HAD IT EVERY WE MET, WHAT, 13 TIMES? 15 TIMES WE PROBABLY HAD.
I DON'T KNOW, 30 PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON PONTO PARK.
I THINK WE RECEIVED DOZENS, IF NOT 100 OR MORE PUBLIC WRITTEN COMMENTS ABOUT PONTO PARK.
IT WAS TOP OF AGENDA FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT TO ASK OUR COMMITTEE TO PUT PONTO PARK SOMEHOW IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
AS A COMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT LENGTH.
IT WAS WE WERE SPLIT WITHIN THE COMMITTEE, BUT IN THE END, WE DID NOT BELIEVE THE MAJORITY THAT IT WAS PROPER FOR THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN TO NAME A PARK. WE HAVE A STANDARD AND EVERYTHING IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN IDENTIFIES STANDARDS.
WE DON'T SAY IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN WHERE THE SEWER PIPE CAN GO.
WE DON'T SAY WHERE THE LIBRARY SHOULD BE BUILT.
AND WE FELT THE SAME WAY FOR THE PARK SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH WE HEARD THOSE COMMENTS.
WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE FOLKS IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT.
HOWEVER, THAT SAID, THOSE PONTO COMMENTS WERE PART OF WHAT MOVED OUR COMMITTEE TO THAT POINT OF SAYING MAYBE THE CITY SHOULD LOOK AT A DISTANT STANDARD WITHOUT NAMING A PARK.
SO THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT SLIDE FROM THAT LIST OF VERY, VERY MANY THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT.
AND I'LL SAY HERE THIS WAS ONE OF THE BRILLIANCE OF THIS COMMITTEE TO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE ARTS COMMISSION, SENIOR COMMISSION, PARKS COMMISSION, BECAUSE WE WE GOT SO MUCH GREAT INPUT FROM FOLKS ON THE COMMITTEE.
AND SO ARTS CULTURE GIVE HIGH PRIORITY IN STRATEGIC PLANNING AND THE OPERATING BUDGET TO THE ARTS.
ONE THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTION IS IS FOR THE CITY TO LOOK AT AN ACTUAL COMMUNITY THEATER, 750 SEATS, BIG THEATER, BUT NONETHELESS, CARLSBAD'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZED CITY.
AND WE SEE COMMUNITIES AROUND US WITH THEATERS LIKE THAT.
THE ENERGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE HAD SOME FOLKS WHO WERE VERY STRONG ABOUT THE ENERGY ISSUES, AND WE THOUGHT THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT WAS IN OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THERE BE A CITIZENS GROUP. WE'RE NOT SAYING COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE, BUT A GROUP THAT IS FORMED BY THE CITY TO TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS AND REPORT ANNUALLY TO THE CITY ABOUT ENERGY, ENERGY STORAGE, MAYBE SOLAR GENERATION, BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG TOPIC.
IT'S A LOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
AND WE HAVE FOLKS IN THE CITY WHO ARE EXPERTS ON THAT, SO WHY NOT GATHER THEM TOGETHER TO DO A REPORT ANNUALLY ON ENERGY ISSUES ON THE COASTLINE? A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE COASTLINE OF COURSE, IT'S IT'S OUR IT'S OUR, I GUESS, OUR BIGGEST AND BEST ASSET IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THINGS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
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AND SO WE WANT TOP PRIORITY TO THE EXPANSION PROTECTION ENHANCEMENT OF PUBLIC ACCESS TO AND USE OF THE BEACH SHORELINE, THE BEACH AND SHORELINE BLUFFS. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT REMAINS TOP, TOP OF THE CHARTS FOR YOU FOLKS.WE UNDERSTOOD THE STRUCTURE OF THE FEES, BUT IN COMMENTS THAT WE HEAR FROM STAFF AND IN DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMITTEE, WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA THAT THE CITY PUBLICLY, I MEAN ANNUALLY OR NOT ANNUALLY.
BUT WE SAID NO MORE THAN EVERY FIVE YEARS.
LOOK AT THOSE PUBLIC FACILITY IMPACT FEES AND ADJUST THOSE AS NECESSARY.
SO IF WE HAVE PEOPLE MOVING TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE FOR THE VALUE IT IS TODAY, NOT WHAT IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO OR WHAT IT WILL COST THE CITY TO PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR SUCH NOW VERSUS WHAT IT WOULD BE FIVE YEARS AGO.
HOMELESSNESS, IT'S A TOPIC EVERYWHERE.
CERTAINLY DIDN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF BEING IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THIS GROUP OF CITIZENS ON THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU MAINTAIN IT AS A HIGH PRIORITY IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND CONTINUING AND REALLY NOT ASKING YOU TO DO SOMETHING NEW, BUT MAKE SURE YOU CONTINUE THE OUTREACH EFFORTS THAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
LIKEWISE, WAS ON THE SENIOR AND AGING COMMUNITY.
WE HAD SEVERAL SENIORS ON OUR COMMITTEE AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH.
COST OF HOUSING HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT.
FEWER YOUNG PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE THAN MAYBE ALL OF US WOULD WOULD LIKE.
BUT NONETHELESS, PEOPLE SEEM TO BE STAYING IN PLACE.
AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MORE THAN JUST A SENIOR CENTER, THAT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS RECOGNIZING THAT THE AGING POPULATION OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND MAKE SURE THAT IT REMAINS A PRIORITY AND ALL THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND BUDGET.
AGAIN. I SAID OPEN SPACE WAS ONE OF THE THREE TOPICS WE TALKED ABOUT THE MOST.
SO OUR CONCLUSION WAS, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER TAKING OUR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AND MAKE IT THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE COMMISSION, PERHAPS SOMETHING IN THAT REGARD SO THAT WE HAVE AND WE DON'T THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEW GROUP.
WE JUST FELT IT WOULD FIT UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OPEN SPACE OPPORTUNITIES, FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES ARE NEVER MISSED.
IF PROPERTY BECOMES AVAILABLE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD OR FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, WE THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF THERE IS A COMMISSION PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT. AND IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT THAT WOULD PROPERLY BE THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION PROPOSITION H.
YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH PROPOSITION H.
IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
WE THINK THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATION.
WE RECOGNIZE IT WAS PUT IN PLACE BY THE VOTERS OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
BUT WE ALSO THINK IN THAT PROPOSITION H IF YOU GO TO THE VOTERS, WE THINK THERE'S CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THAT MILLION DOLLAR OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, THE NEW NUMBER THRESHOLD, FOR INSTANCE, ROUTINE MAINTENANCE THAT PROTECTS PUBLIC FACILITIES.
WHY SHOULD THE CITY HAVE TO GO TO A VOTE FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ON A PUBLIC FACILITY WHEN WE CAN TAKE THAT AND SET IT ASIDE OUTSIDE OF PROPOSITION EIGHT? SO WE THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN EXAMINATION OF THAT.
WHAT ARE THE LIMITS OF PROPOSITION H AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE THAT? THE NEXT ONE IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS ON TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY.
HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS WE'D LIKE TO SAY, AND A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY JUST USING AND IMPLEMENTING THE TOOLS THEY ALREADY HAVE AT HAND FOR MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION.
USE THE SUSTAINABILITY, THE SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN AND MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES TO IMPLEMENT FUTURE MULTIMODAL PROJECTS REQUIRE NEW DEVELOPMENT TO CONDUCT INTERSECTION LEVEL OF SERVICE AND MULTIMODAL LEVEL SERVICE ANALYSIS.
COMPLETE THE TYPOLOGY BASED STREET NETWORK PURSUANT TO THE GENERAL PLAN.
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IMPACTS AND VEHICLE EMISSIONS.SO AGAIN, USE THE TOOLS YOU HAVE AT HAND.
WE DIDN'T SEE THAT THAT WOULD BE A NEW GROWTH MANAGEMENT STANDARD, BUT WE THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO TO MAKE SURE CARLSBAD RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO MOVE AROUND THE CITY QUICKLY AND SAFELY.
WITH THAT, THAT'S THE REPORT FROM OUR COMMITTEE.
AGAIN, TWO PARTS, OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
SECOND, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'LL BE HERE AT YOUR DISPOSAL.
THANK YOU, ERIC. AND JUST TO BRIEFLY WRAP UP, THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE EXISTING 11 PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITH KEEPING FIVE OF THEM, MODIFYING TWO OF THEM AND REMOVING FOUR OF THEM.
AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATION IS ACCEPT THE REPORT AND DIRECT STAFF TO RETURN WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM THREE MONTHS AFTER COMPLETION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT REZONING PROGRAM. THIS PROGRAM WOULD INCLUDE THE COST SCHEDULE AND PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC SPEAKERS, I JUST JUST A POINT OF FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, PROP H, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED A ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THE PROP H ONLY APPLIES TO NEW PROJECTS AND NOT TO MAINTENANCE.
COULD YOU CLEAR THAT UP FOR ME, PLEASE? YEAH. THE CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED PROPOSITION H IMPLEMENTATION GUIDELINES, AND IN THOSE GUIDELINES THEY INDICATE THAT IN INTERPRETING PROP H IMPROVEMENT TO REAL PROPERTY DOES NOT INCLUDE REPLACEMENT REPAIR, MAINTENANCE, ROUTINE REFURBISHMENT OR UPGRADES OF EXISTING FACILITIES AS THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE ONGOING CAPITAL EXPENDITURES NECESSARY TO CARRY OUT THE NORMAL AND ROUTINE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.
THANK YOU. CALL THE SPEAKERS, PLEASE.
DIANE NYGAARD, FOLLOWED BY STEVE LINKE.
GOOD EVENING HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, DIANE NYGAARD, REPRESENTING PRESERVE CALAVERA.
PARKS AND OPEN SPACE ARE THE HEART OF MOST COMMUNITIES, PERHAPS NONE MORE SO THAN CARLSBAD.
THEY BRING US TOGETHER, CONNECT US WITH NATURE, AND CREATE A SENSE OF PLACE.
THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE DID HEAVY LIFTING ON A WHOLE LOT OF ISSUES, BUT NOW IT'S UP TO YOU.
ONE, TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO EVALUATE PARK PROXIMITY, TO ENSURE ALL NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE ACCESS TO A PARK, PARTICULARLY THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CITY THAT HAS NO COASTAL ACCESS PARK.
CORRECTING THE EXEMPTION OF OVER HALF THE CITY FROM THE STANDARD FOR 15% OPEN SPACE FOR EACH ZONE AND DEVELOPING STANDARDS FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, NOT JUST CARS.
AND OF COURSE, THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RAISING THESE CONCERNS FOR YEARS.
TONIGHT, WE ASK YOU TO HEAR THOSE CONCERNS AND DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM.
WHILE IT MAKES SENSE TO DELAY FINAL ADOPTION, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO DELAY STARTING SOME OF THIS WORK, PARTICULARLY SINCE STATE HOUSING CHANGES TAKE AWAY MUCH OF THE DISCRETION ABOUT HOUSING THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO BUILD MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE PLAN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY CONTROL EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT GROWTH AND HOUSING. SO WE ASK YOU TONIGHT TO DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK IN 30 DAYS WITH A PLAN TO CONDUCT THE PARK PROXIMITY STUDY SO THAT WORK CAN GET STARTED, ASSIGN RESPONSIBILITY FOR MONITORING OF OPEN SPACE AND FOR SOMEBODY TO EVALUATE THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CONSTRAINTS ON OPEN SPACE ACQUISITION SO WE DON'T LOSE ANOTHER YEAR.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
IT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD FAST.
ANY DELAY CAN RESULT IN LOST OPPORTUNITIES, PARTICULARLY FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
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GROWTH CONTINUES.THAT WAS THE PROMISE OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN WHEN IT WAS MADE IN 1986.
AND THAT SHOULD BE THE PROMISE THAT YOU CONFIRM TODAY.
I WAS THE VOTING REPRESENTATIVE ON THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION AND I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSION FOR APPOINTING ME TO THAT POSITION AND 15 LONG MEETINGS.
I THINK WE DID A LOT OF WORK AND I JUST WANTED TO PERSONALLY THANK MR..
ALWAYS ALLOWED EVERYBODY TO SPEAK.
UM, AND AS HE SAID, THE THREE MAIN TOPICS WERE TRAFFIC PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
AND I WAS VOTING IN THE MINORITY SEVERAL TIMES ON STRENGTHENING THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE STANDARD.
AND I THINK IN THE END WE'RE SORT OF DISMANTLING SEVERAL PARTS OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO FOCUS ON THAT QUALITY OF LIFE REPORT BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF THE A LOT OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK IS IN THAT DOCUMENT AS OPPOSED TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT REPORT LIKE ARTS AND CULTURE, ENERGY.
AND AGAIN, I WANT TO REALLY THANK THE CHAIR.
THE PRESENTATION HE JUST GAVE WAS AN EXTREMELY COMPREHENSIVE AND ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THE MEETING AT ALL THOSE MEETINGS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNCIL TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.
THANK YOU. DAVE ORTIS, FOLLOWED BY LANCE SCHULTE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
I'M DALE ORTIS, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD SINCE 2002.
AND IN THAT TIME I HAVE RESIDED OWNED A HOME IN THE COMMUNITY CALLED SAN PACIFICO.
IN 2004 MUCH TO MY PRIDE AND CONCERN FOR THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHICH NUMBER THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS. WE HAD OUR SAFETY ENHANCED BY THE INSTALLATION OF A STOP SIGN AT PORTAGE WAY AND AVENIDA ENCINAS.
AND MUCH WAS SAID THIS EVENING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.
WELL, THERE IS NO QUALITY OF LIFE IF YOU'RE NOT SAFE.
AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'VE WATCHED GENERATIONS GROW AND GENERATIONS MEAN MORE YOUNG PEOPLE AND MORE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOW POPULATING THE STREETS OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS NOT A SAFE CIRCUMSTANCE.
I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT ALL OF YOU WOULD HAVE A BURDEN ON YOUR CONSCIENCE IF YOUNG PEOPLE WERE VICTIMIZED IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS ON THE STREETS OF A SMALL GATED COMMUNITY.
AND SO I COME TO YOU TODAY AND SAY, GIVE US A PARK WHERE OUR CHILDREN CAN PLAY SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO RISK BEING A VICTIM OF A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT IN THE STREETS OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
THAT WOULD TERMINATE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND I URGE YOU TO HAVE THAT PRIMARY IN YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE DELIBERATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON
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TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.YEAH. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT DALE SAID.
I GET A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT GET TO YOU FROM THAT GO THROUGH THE PEOPLE FOR A WEBSITE, AND IF YOU REALLY READ THEM, THOSE CITIZENS ARE SAYING IN THEIR DEEPEST HEART THAT WE NEED A PARK HERE FOR THEIR KIDS.
I SENT YOU PHOTOGRAPHS AND PICTURES OF OUR KIDS PLAYING IN THE STREET, PLAYING IN THE RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO NO PARK. AND I.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN ALMOST 1200 PAGES OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AS ERIC WAS VERY ACCURATE IN SAYING MOST OF IT WAS PONTO PARK RELATED. AND IF YOU READ THOSE COMMENTS AND READ THE 50 OR 60 COMMENTS YOU GOT TODAY EMAILED TO YOU READ WHAT THEY SAY THOSE CITIZENS ARE REALLY SAYING ABOUT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
KIDS ARE NOT GOING TO GO TWO MILES AWAY TO GET TO A PARK ON A BUSY STREET AND NO PARENT IS GOING TO SEND THEM ON A ON A BUSY STREET IN A PARK OR WALKING TO GET TO A PARK.
OUR CURRENT STANDARDS HAVE CREATED.
AND I ALSO WANT TO INDICATE, TOO, THAT THERE WAS INDICATION OF OR ESSENTIALLY INFORMATION THAT CARLSBAD IS THE WORST CITY OUT OF THE 29 CITIES FROM THE CITY OF SANTA BARBARA ALL THE WAY TO THE MEXICO BORDER IN PROVIDING ACCESS TO ITS PARKS.
WE ARE THE WORST CITIES FOR 250 MILES OF COASTLINE IN PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE PARK BASED ON THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LANDS PARK SCORE ANALYSIS, WHICH IS A VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS.
THE WORST FIVE, PROBABLY OVER 5 MILLION PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO FIX THIS AND WE NEED TO FIX IT NOW.
AND YOU NEED, PLEASE, TO WORK WITH CARLSBAD CITIZENS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT OPEN SPACE, THIS IS THE OPEN SPACE MAP FOR PONTO.
THE DEVELOPERS AT PONTO WERE FALSELY ALLOWED TO EXCLUDE OPEN SPACE AND PROVIDE OPEN SPACE AT PONTO.
THEREFORE, PONTO RIGHT NOW AND CURRENT CENSUS DATA IS DEVELOPED AT A POPULATION DENSITY THAT'S 40% HIGHER THAN THE REST OF THE CITY. PONTO IS DEVELOPED AT 40% HIGHER THAN THE REST OF THE CITY BECAUSE DEVELOPERS WERE FALSELY EXEMPTED FROM PROVIDING OPEN SPACE AT PONTO.
I SENT TO YOU SEVERAL TIMES A SIX KEY ISSUES AND SUGGESTIONS FROM PEOPLE FOR PONTO CITIZENS ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ISSUES. THESE ARE COST EFFECTIVE.
THEY SAVE TAXPAYERS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS VERSUS WHAT THE CITY HAS CURRENTLY BEEN PLANNING ON HOW TO DEAL WITH PARKS OPEN SPACE TRAFFIC. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
THANKS FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION.
AND I'M SO GLAD THAT WE HAD OUR CHAIR HERE OF CARLSBAD TOMORROW.
I WATCHED SOME OF THE MEETINGS, SOME OF THE VIDEO, AND IT WAS VERY EFFICIENTLY RUN.
I ALSO SPECIFICALLY SAW SOME OF THE DISCUSSION EXCUSE ME ABOUT THE PARKS, AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS ALSO WELL HANDLED, YOU KNOW, JUST IN BRINGING VOICES TOGETHER.
SO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE REPORT WITH THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN AND CLARIFY? I'VE GOTTEN SO MANY EMAILS SAYING THAT WE ARE THAT WE ARE NOT MEETING WHAT WAS A PROMISE.
COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THE 40% OPEN SPACE? SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU. SO THE STANDARD FOR THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN IS 15% OPEN SPACE THAT IS NOT BIOLOGICAL OR OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES. THAT WAS THE STANDARD THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE MIDDLE OF 1986 BEFORE THE BALLOT INITIATIVE, BASED ON THE REPORTS TO CITY COUNCIL THAT OCCURRED. AT THAT TIME, THAT 15% WAS COMBINED WITH WHAT WAS ESTIMATED TO BE 25% OPEN SPACE AT THE CITY, AND THE ESTIMATE
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WAS AT THE BUILD OUT OF THE CITY'S GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.THERE WOULD BE 40% OPEN SPACE.
IT WAS ACTUALLY 35 TO 40% OPEN SPACE.
SO THE 40% WAS NOT A SPECIFIC STANDARD THAT WAS EVER ADOPTED.
ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE CURRENTLY AT 38% OPEN SPACE WHEN YOU FACTOR ALL THE DIFFERENT OPEN SPACE CATEGORIES AND THAT DOES NOT FACTOR IN RAW LAND THAT IS STILL IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. IT HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF DEDICATED OPEN SPACE.
SO WE DO EXPECT THAT NUMBER WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP AS OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY CONTINUE TO DEVELOP.
AND SO IT'S IT'S STILL POTENTIAL TO GET TO THAT 40%.
ON THE PARK'S STANDARD, SPECIFICALLY ON THAT SOUTHWEST QUADRANT PARK, COULD YOU JUST TELL US IF THE CITY HAS HAD CONSIDERED A PARK IN THAT AREA AND WHAT WAS DONE INSTEAD SINCE THERE ISN'T A PARK THERE? FOR THE RECORD, JEFF MURPHY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO ACQUIRE SITES FOR OPEN SPACE AND PARK SPACE IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN JULY 13TH TO 2021 IN THAT STAFF REPORT.
BUT ONE OF THE SUBJECT TOPICS THAT THAT PROBABLY GOT THE MOST ATTENTION WAS THE REALIGNMENT OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN AN ESTIMATED 50 ACRES OF LAND THAT COULD BE USED FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES AND OPEN SPACE PURPOSES.
SINCE THAT THAT HEARING BACK IN 2021, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL STUDIES AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT THAT WAS PERFORMED AND REPORTED BACK TO COUNCIL ON REGARDING WHAT WHAT WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO OUT GO ON THERE.
BUT THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL, IS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED BACK IN 2021.
OKAY. SO JUST A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THIS.
SO THERE WAS THE STRETCH, THE REALIGNMENT OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD WHEN YOU REALIGNED ALL THE WAY TO KIND OF THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE OF THE EXISTING EASEMENT COULD RESULT IN ROUGHLY 50 ACRES OF OF OF.
THE EXACT DETAILS OF THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DISCUSSED OR FINALIZED.
IT WAS JUST THIS IS A POTENTIAL FOR FOR THAT PARTICULAR SPACE IN THAT QUADRANT.
I'LL HAVE MORE WHEN WE GET TO COMMENTS ON ON THE PARKS PART AND THEN THE TIMELINE ON THIS.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHEN WE ON THAT ONE SLIDE, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE THE REZONING AND THE GETTING THE REST OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT DENSITY INCREASES PREPARED, WHEN WOULD THAT BE? IS SOMETIME IN 2024, RIGHT.
IT IS REQUIRED THAT WE ADOPT THAT BY APRIL OF 2024.
SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE IN REALLY THAT FIRST QUARTER OF 2024.
OKAY. SO IF THAT WERE DONE IN APRIL 2024, THE PROPOSAL OR THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THREE MONTHS LATER WOULD WOULD IS IS WHEN WE WOULD BEGIN IMPLEMENTING THREE MONTHS LATER, IT WAS WHEN WE WOULD RETURN WITH A SPECIFIC WORK PROGRAM, COST ESTIMATES AND SCHEDULES.
SO WE WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO BEGIN IMPLEMENTING PORTION OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. OKAY. AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE DISCUSSION HERE TONIGHT, BUT I DID HEAR IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT WHAT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE START SOONER AND THAT WE GET SOME OF THIS PREPARED AND READY TO GO AND KIND OF WORK SIMULTANEOUSLY.
IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE WITH OUR RESOURCES AND WITH THE, YOU KNOW, SET GOALS AND TIMELINES THAT WE HAVE? I KNOW SOME THINGS ARE DEPENDENT ON OTHER THINGS.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS POSSIBLE? IN SHORT, NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO BOTH.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MOST OF THE, IF NOT ALL THE ADVANCED PLANNING TEAM WORKING ON THE HOUSING ELEMENT.
WE HAVE THREE HEARINGS THAT WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR, AS WELL AS RESPONSE TO COMMENTS ON ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMENTS WE'RE ANTICIPATING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT THAT'S OUT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW CURRENTLY.
GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE FINALLY BRING THIS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR DECISION, WHICH WE ARE TARGETING BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
WE JUST DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE ON THIS, THIS WORK WITH ALL THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON.
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OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU.AND THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE RELATED TO TWO PARKS.
I DON'T SEE MR. LANCASTER HERE, BUT I REMEMBER THAT THE PARKS MASTER PLAN IS COMING TOWARD TO COUNCIL.
SO MR. LANCASTER JUST ARRIVED.
I KNOW THAT THE PARKS MASTER PLAN IS COMING TO COUNCIL SOMETIME SOON, AND I'M WONDERING IF SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS MAY BE MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS MR. LANCASTER ABOUT PARK PROXIMITY AND AND BEING WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF OF THE HOMES.
SO WHEN IS THE PARK MASTER PLAN COMING TO US AND ARE WE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING CHANGES TO THE PARK STANDARD OR PARK PROXIMITY AS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.
KYLE LANCASTER, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
THIS TIME THAT WILL BE AFTER TWO ROUNDS AT THE COMMISSION'S BOTH SENIOR COMMISSION AND PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION OVER THE AUGUST AND MID SEPTEMBER PERIOD. WE WILL BE ADDRESSING PARK EQUITY IN THAT MASTER PLAN AND WE'LL HAVE UPDATED MAPS FOR YOU TO REVIEW THAT ARE MORE INCLUSIVE OF TODAY'S CURRENT INVENTORY.
WE WILL NOT BE ADDRESSING THE PARK STANDARD AS THAT WAS COVERED IN THIS PARTICULAR REPORT, BUT THERE IS CERTAINLY ROOM FOR THAT SECONDARY GUIDELINE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THE PROXIMITY ASPECT.
SO THAT IS STILL OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU. AND ONE OTHER QUESTION.
THIS IS ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR ONE OF YOU OR MAYBE FOR MR. WOOD. I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF WHETHER WE'VE DISCUSSED HAVING AN ENERGY ADVISORY COMMISSION OR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, IF THIS IS WHAT THE HISTORY IS ON THAT AND WHETHER WE WE DISCUSSED IT.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING IF I COULD GET MORE INFORMATION.
AND WE'RE BRINGING UP OUR JAMIE WOOD, WHO IS OUR SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION HERE FOR THE ENERGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO FURTHER CONSIDER THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY RELATED TO THAT, THAT OLD IDEA OF SUSTAINABILITY, COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE.
IT COULD BE AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL.
OKAY. THAT WAS A QUICK QUESTION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK TO ALL THE VOLUNTEERS IN THE AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
YES, THANK YOU. AND JUST BRIEFLY, A COMMENT ON THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION PIECE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, OBVIOUSLY WE DO HAVE THAT.
I KNOW IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY OF CARLSBAD THAT SIT ON OUR BEHALF ON THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT FOR THE JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY, WE DO HAVE AT LEAST THAT PIECE AND THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION SEPARATELY HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE MENTIONED AND IN THE PAST I'VE DEFINITELY TALKED ABOUT BEING INTERESTED IN.
SO JUST WANTED TO FIRST OFF, SAY THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M SURE IT WAS A LOT OF WORK.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT HAVING TO SHEPHERD 38 MEMBERS IS IS REALLY GREAT.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE HAD THAT THAT DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT, THAT DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF THE GENERATIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU MENTIONED, I THINK IT REALLY ALLOWS FOR US TO HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND MR. LANCASTER, I KNOW YOU HAD A CHANCE TO ANSWER THIS A BIT, BUT JUST JUST CURIOUS HOW IF WE DID DECIDE WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HOW THAT WOULD END UP PLAYING OUT.
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COULD GO BACK AND HIRE A CONSULTANT TO START THAT STUDY.HOWEVER, THAT STUDY WOULD MOST LIKELY OCCUR AFTER.
AGAIN, THIS IS BROUGHT BACK TO YOU AT A LATER DATE, I HEARD EARLY 2024.
THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.
THE UPDATE DOES INCLUDE, AGAIN, REVISED EQUITY MAPPING, WHICH REALLY CREATES A DIFFERENT PICTURE IF WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT NEW PARK DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS ROBERTSON RANCH PARK, THE CARLSBAD COASTLINE PROJECT THAT WAS REFERENCED A MOMENT AGO, AND ALSO OTHER AREAS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY COUNTED IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT INITIATIVE INVENTORY, BUT ARE OPEN TO RECREATION ACCESS.
AND AGAIN, WE DISCUSSED THIS DURING COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH AGAIN HAS TRAILS ALONG ITS EDGE AS WELL.
AGUA DE AGUA HEDIONDA INNER LAGOON, WHICH IS A RECREATION AREA.
IT'S NOT CURRENTLY COUNTED IN THE PARK EQUITY MAPPING THAT WAS PART OF THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN.
AND THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING TO LOOK AT FOR SURE AND APPRECIATE THAT UPDATE ON THAT PARTICULAR FRONT.
THE THE OTHER PIECE I KNOW THAT WAS MENTIONED AROUND INCREASING THE THRESHOLD OF THE $1 MILLION FOR THE PROP H, AND I KNOW YOU ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES, IMPROVEMENTS, OTHER THINGS.
CITY ATTORNEY BUT IF, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE AND FOR THE RECORD, WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE VOTERS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BECAUSE IT WAS A BALLOT MEASURE. SO AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT BACK ONTO THE BALLOT AND IT LIKELY WOULDN'T GO ON UNTIL SOMETIME NEXT YEAR.
IF WE WERE TO DECIDE TO DO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON A LEGAL QUESTION.
THANK YOU. SO TYPICALLY, BALLOT BALLOT INITIATIVE MEASURES CAN ONLY BE UNDONE BY BALLOT INITIATIVE MEASURES UNLESS OR I'M SORRY, BY BALLOT MEASURES, UNLESS FOR SOME REASON THEY'RE DETERMINED TO BE VOID OR VOIDABLE.
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
I JUST HAVE COMMENTS. THANKS, MISS LUNA.
THE WAY THAT THE ITEM IS AGENDIZED, ARE WE ACTUALLY APPROVING ALSO THE QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS AND RECOMMENDATIONS? THE OTHER DOCUMENT, THE WAY THAT I READ IT, WERE APPROVING ONLY THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ELEMENT CHANGES, BUT YET THERE IS A SECOND DOCUMENT HERE WHICH CONTAINS SOME OF THE PROVISIONS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW, IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TWO DOCUMENTS.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IN FRONT OF YOU IS RECEIPT OF THE COMMITTEE REPORT AND THEN DIRECTING STAFF TO BRING BACK SOMETHING REGARDING IMPLEMENTATION THREE MONTHS AFTER THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS APPROVED.
SO NONE OF THE ITEMS IN THE SPECIFIC ITEMS IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE REPORT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION HERE ON THE PARK STANDARD ON PAGE 28 OF THE DOCUMENT.
UNDER ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVE PERSPECTIVES.
THE LAST TRIANGLE SAYS IN THE END, THE MAJORITY VOTED TO RETAIN THE EXISTING STANDARD.
YET IT SAID ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION.
THE COMMITTEE IS REQUESTING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF CREATING AND IMPLEMENTING A DISTANCE BASED STANDARD TO ANY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PARK.
SO THE THERE WAS TWO DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS THAT OCCURRED AT THE COMMITTEE.
THE FIRST WAS, SHOULD THE THREE ACRES BE RETAINED OR SHOULD IT BE CHANGED TO SOMETHING ELSE? AND THERE WAS AN ACTION TO RETAIN THAT.
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AND WHERE ARE THE AREAS LEFT TO GROW WITHIN THE CITY THAT COULD EVEN PAY INTO A PROGRAM FOR STANDARD? AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SOME OPTIONS BEFORE THEY COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE REPORT.OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS PROBABLY MR. LANCASTER WITH RESPECT TO INCORPORATING OPEN SPACE ISSUES WITHIN THE PARK AND REC COMMISSION UNDER YOUR PURVIEW.
DO YOU NOT HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT HANDLES OPEN SPACE? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A STAFF COMMITTEE THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HEADS UP AND WE MEET ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO REVIEW OPEN SPACE OPPORTUNITIES, NATURAL OPEN SPACE AND POTENTIAL ACQUISITION, IN PARTICULAR UNDER PROP C.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
AND I'M GLAD TO GO LAST BECAUSE THEY ASK A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.
BUT ONE THING WHILE YOU'RE HERE, ACTUALLY, KYLE.
I'M GOING TO JUST ASK ABOUT THE COASTLINE UNDER THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE, ACCESS TO COASTLINE.
DON'T WE HAVE PROJECTS LIKE THAT IN THE WORKS ALREADY WHERE WE'RE IMPROVING ACCESS TO THE COASTLINE? YES. YES, WE DO.
OKAY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS TRUE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
AND THEN DO YOU HAVE ON PAGE 40 OF 90 OF THE REPORT, THERE IS A GRAPH OF THE PARK QUADRANTS AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE ACREAGE IN EACH QUADRANT.
SORRY. IT'S PAGE 40 OVER HERE, BUT 29 OVER THERE.
I CAN PULL THAT UP IN JUST ONE SECOND.
YEAH. WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SEE IS A MAP THAT DEPICTS WHAT THAT GRAPH SAYS.
BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON WHAT THE MAP LOOKS LIKE.
SO IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT, HOW MANY PARKS ARE ON THAT GRAPH? ON THAT MAP? WITHOUT COUNTING.
GENERALLY THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT IS THIS AREA WITHIN HERE.
OKAY. AND THEN IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT WITH THAT INCLUDE, I DON'T KNOW, POINSETTIA ALGA.
WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE ON YOUR MAP? GENERALLY SPEAKING, PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD IS THE DIVIDER BETWEEN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH.
AND THEN EL CAMINO REAL IS THE QUADRANT DIVIDER BETWEEN THE EAST AND THE WEST.
OKAY. AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT.
REALIGNING THE ROAD TO CREATE THAT 50 ACRES.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S IN TOM FRANK'S DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON? OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU COULD JUST UPDATE US ABOUT WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR REALIGNMENT ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD SOUTH? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
THERE'S TWO PROJECTS ACTUALLY THAT INVOLVE THE REALIGNMENT OF SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
AND SO THE FIRST WAS ON YOUR AGENDA SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, AND THAT INVOLVES THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD CLIMATE ADAPTATION STUDY, WHERE WE INCLUDED IN THAT STUDY WE PRESENTED CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS, WHICH YOU THEN APPROVED FOR A ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION WITH ROUNDABOUTS FROM STARTING AT THE LIMITS EXCUSE ME, OF MANZANO WAY TO DOWN TO ISLAND ISLAND DRIVE OR WAY I THINK IT'S ISLAND WAY AND SO THAT'S THE FIRST PROJECT. SO THE STATUS OF THAT IS WE ARE NOW COMPLETING THAT STUDY AND THEN WE'LL BRING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL THE FINALIZED DRAFT
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STUDY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, INCLUDING A 30% DESIGN FOR THAT ONE MILE ROAD SEGMENT SOUTH OF THAT, WE HAVE A CIP PROJECT ESTABLISHED, BUT IT'S NOT ACTIVE, IT'S NOT FUNDED AND WE'RE NOT WORKING ON IT.SO WE'RE WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION AT THIS POINT TO PURSUE THAT ROAD SEGMENT AT THIS TIME.
I DID WANT TO MENTION, THOUGH, AS A PART OF OUR SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN, WE DO HAVE A THIRD PROJECT AND IT IS FUNDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, AND THAT'S TO CONSIDER AN ARTERIAL REALIGNMENT.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS CONSIDER ELIMINATING THE OUTSIDE VEHICULAR TRAVEL LANE IN CERTAIN SEGMENTS AND FREEING UP THAT AREA FOR OTHER USES, SUCH AS ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION. AND SO WE'RE STUDYING THAT.
SO YOU SHOULD START SEEING THAT LATER THIS SUMMER OR EARLY FALL.
SO THOSE ARE THREE PROJECTS THAT INVOLVE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CLOSING STATE OR FINAL COMMENTS, MISS LUNA? I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD PERTAIN AT THIS POINT TO THE PARK STANDARD.
AND WITH RESPECT TO THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION AND BASED ON OUR COMMENTS FROM OUR PARKS DIRECTOR, I THINK IT'S PREMATURE AT THIS TIME THAT THE TIMING IS JUST NOT RIGHT.
AND SO I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION.
AND THAT I THINK AS MR. LANCASTER COMES BACK WITH HIS PLAN, THAT THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ADDRESS THAT AND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND TO COMMITTING TO SOMETHING UP FRONT AND TO TAKE STAFF'S TIME AND MONEY ON THIS WHEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER PLAN COME IN.
I JUST DON'T LIKE WASTING CITY TAXPAYER MONEY.
AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BEST THAT THIS IS PREMATURE.
IN ADDITION, WE JUST DID OUR CITIZEN OF THE YEAR AWARD.
LARSON, I'M UNOFFICIALLY AWARDING YOU THE SURVIVOR OF THE YEAR AWARD.
I HAVEN'T CLEARED THIS WITH THE MAYOR.
MAYOR, WOULD THAT BE OKAY? AND THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT.
I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH ELIMINATING THE STANDARDS AND THE COMMISSION.
I THOUGHT YOU WOULD NEVER COME TO ANY CONCLUSIONS.
THERE'S MANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN HERE AND WELL DONE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE THAT I DON'T WANT TO ABANDON THE IDEA THAT THERE IS A DISTANCE BASED METRIC RELATIVE TO PARKS, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN IN FRONT OF US BEFORE WE MAKE THE DETERMINATION.
15 IT'S LIKE PUTTING 12 ANGRY MEN TIMES THREE IN A ROOM, RIGHT? AND GO GO FOR IT.
BUT A LOT OF VALUABLE INFORMATION CAME OUT OF THIS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU. MR. ACOSTA. THANK YOU.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A COUPLE PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL WHO AREN'T READY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A NO.
SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY.
BUT I ALSO LIKE TO COUPLE OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE.
AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF WHAT WE DID AS A COMMUNITY.
SO I WANT TO HONOR THOSE OTHER SUGGESTIONS.
AND I LOVED THE IDEA OF THE ENERGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
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I DO THINK THAT OUR OUR ENERGY SITUATION IS CHANGING RAPIDLY.I'M ON CALLS ALL THE TIME RELATED TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SITUATION AND AND ENERGY STORAGE AND SOLAR AND HYDROELECTRIC BEING PROPOSED. SO I DO THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S COMMUNITY INTEREST AND IT STARTED WITH A SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, AS COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL MENTIONED, SINCE 2018 AT LEAST AND PROBABLY EARLIER.
BUT I'VE HEARD IT IN THE THREE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE MANY TIMES.
SO I THINK SUSTAINABILITY KIND OF MORPHED.
AND NOW LIKE PEOPLE SEE THE BIGGEST THING IS ENERGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO I'D BE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF HAVING STAFF BRING BACK TO US A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE CAN FURTHER HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD ALSO BE REALLY INTERESTED IN IS STAFF COMING BACK TO US WITH A PROPOSAL LANGUAGE FOR A BALLOT MEASURE THAT WOULD CHANGE PROP H AND UPDATE IT BECAUSE IT IS FROM THE 80S AND TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND WE ALL KNOW OUR HOME VALUES AND OTHER THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN PRICE QUITE A BIT SINCE THE 80S.
AND I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOME KIND OF BUILT IN ESCALATOR OR INFLATIONARY MEASURE IN THERE.
SO WITH EXEMPTION FOR, I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT SAFETY FACILITY AS WELL.
SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF IF YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THESE MOTIONS ALREADY, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES, SO I THOUGHT WE'D HEAR FROM THE REST OF YOU ALL AND THEN I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE MOTIONS ON THESE.
AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND AGAIN, ANOTHER HEARTFELT THANKS TO THE COMMITTEE.
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS.
AND IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT STUCK OUT TO ME AND I KNOW THAT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY, BUT APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THE FIRE PIECE.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD OUR STANDARDS OF COVER THAT REALLY GOES INTO DEPTH OF WHAT IS NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S WITH REGARDS TO, OF COURSE, THE STANDARDS OF COVER WE TALKED ABOUT ARE WITH REGARDS TO FIRE SAFETY.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS AROUND THAT AND I DO AGREE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY BELONG HERE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.
SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING, WE DO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS COVERED IN TERMS OF RESPONSE TIMES AND BEING ABLE TO RECEIVE THOSE AMAZING LIFESAVING SERVICES THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL PROVIDE TO US? AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE THE PARK SPACE, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I TOO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SINCE THE TIME THAT I WAS FIRST RUNNING AND IN 2018 AND ONWARDS, I'VE DEFINITELY HEARD ABOUT THE PARK SPACE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE THE CITY.
AND I DO THINK THAT I'D ALSO BE INTERESTED IN A DISTANCE BASED STANDARD FOR THE PARKS.
AND I DO THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS THAT FEEL THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT PROXIMITY TO PARKS, HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE FILLING THAT GAP? THE OTHER PIECE THAT I KNOW YOU MENTIONED, COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA, AND I, TOO HAD QUESTIONS AROUND AND ALSO WOULD WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF WOULD BE THE PROP H AND INCREASING THAT NUMBER.
JUST BASED ON OBVIOUSLY THE MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN IN, YOU KNOW, IN EXISTENCE.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE AT IN OUR CITY, JUST THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF WHAT COSTS LOOK LIKE AND WHAT IT WOULD MEAN FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT ALONG.
OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE COVERED MOSTLY EVERYTHING.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HARD WORK THAT'S BEEN ON THIS.
AND I ACCEPT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OTHERWISE.
APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS DO WE HAVE? CITY MANAGER. APPROXIMATELY 17.
OKAY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AN ENERGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, NOT AGAINST IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RATHER THAN ANOTHER COMMITTEE SOMEHOW PIGGYBACKING THAT TOPIC WITH ANOTHER COMMITTEE.
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ON PROP H.I'VE BEEN ASKING THE QUESTION FOR A LONG TIME.
WHEN WOULD BE THE RIGHT TIME, THE RIGHT AMOUNT AND THE MONEY TO ASK FOR FROM THE COMMUNITY.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE TIMING FOR WHEN IS THE BEST TIME TO BRING THAT UP.
I AGREE WITH THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WE GOT WAS WAS HUGE.
WHEN WHEN WAS THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN APPROVED? WHEN WAS THE LAST DATE OF THAT? THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF YEARS, HASN'T IT? 1986, 86, 86.
SO WE'VE BEEN LIVING ON THE SAME DOCUMENT SINCE 1986.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND FOR ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT.
IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, SO I WILL.
IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
STAFF TIME AND A BUDGET BECAUSE I KNOW WE DIDN'T APPROVE ANYTHING IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS.
SO THAT WOULD I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW THAT WILL WORK OUT.
MS. ACOSTA IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE ASKING JUST FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SUGGESTIONS.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO BRING IT BACK FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.
AND IN THAT DISCUSSION WE WOULD HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES.
THAT'S CORRECT. CLARIFYING QUESTION.
THAT'S FOR ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING OR JUST WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY INDIVIDUALLY.
ACOSTA WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE HYDROGEN AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS ON TOP OF MIND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO IF WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WORKS ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO.
AND WE'RE INVITING OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, PAUL GOMEZ, UP TO ADDRESS.
PAES GOMEZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR PUBLIC WORKS ENERGY, ACTUALLY SPANS QUITE A BIT.
SO IT'S AN OVERARCHING EFFORT THAT WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT, AS WELL AS OUR FLEET AND FACILITIES DEPARTMENT TAKING A LOOK AT THE ENERGY FROM A CITY FACILITIES PERSPECTIVE. SO IT ISN'T ONE SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT THAT'S.
I HEAR YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU, MISS GOMES.
MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THEN THAT WE HAVE STAFF PROVIDE A REPORT ON A PERIODIC BASIS ON WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE FIELD OF ENERGY RATHER THAN CREATE ANOTHER COMMISSION AROUND SUSTAINABILITY OR ENERGY UNTIL WE DECIDE THAT IT IS A NECESSARY FUNCTION OF THIS BODY.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
SO IT WOULD COULD BE A FRIENDLY.
AND THEN IF YOU GET THE MOTION OUT.
MS.. BHAT-PATEL, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING THE MOTION? AND THEN WE CAN ADD? I BELIEVE SO.
SO I MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE ADDITIONS OF A IT SOUNDS LIKE.
WELL, ACTUALLY, LET ME FIRST MOVE BECAUSE I KNOW WE WANTED TO TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE.
SO MOVE THE ADDITION OF A DISTANCE BASED PARK STANDARD TO THE ALREADY EXISTING RECOMMENDATION.
SECOND, AND WHEN YOU SAY THE ALREADY EXISTING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO THE TO TO THE PARKS, NOT TO THE SHOULD I JUST MOVE IT SEPARATELY THEN? SO COUNCIL MEMBER SO TONIGHT THERE IS AN ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU THAT YOU CAN FULLY VOTE ON.
OKAY. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION BROUGHT BACK TO US AT A FUTURE ITEM ON A DISTANCE BASED PARK STANDARD. SECOND.
OKAY. ANY CONVERSATION ON THAT? COULD YOU REPEAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? SAY THAT AGAIN. WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE MAKING A MOTION TO BE ABLE TO BRING BACK A DISCUSSION ON THE DISTANCE BASED PARK STANDARD RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE US.
THANK YOU. AND LET ME I'M SORRY.
THIS WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT CITIZENS COMMITTEE REPORT.
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IT WOULD BE PART OF THE PARKS REPORT.IS THAT ACCURATE? IF I'M UNDERSTANDING HOW THE DISCUSSION IS GOING, THIS IS EFFECTIVELY A MINUTE MOTION THAT WOULD BE REQUESTING STAFF TO RETURN AT A FUTURE DATE TO PROVIDE KIND OF THE SCOPE RELATED TO A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON A DISTANCE BASED STANDARD.
SO WE WOULD DO STAFF TIME COST, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE, WHAT THE SCOPE OF SERVICES WOULD BE.
AND AGAIN, COUNCIL AT THAT TIME COULD THEN ACT ON THAT.
IT WOULD NOT BE COMING BACK, THOUGH, BASED OFF OF MY UNDERSTANDING, UNLESS IT'S SUBJECT, UNLESS THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS WILLING TO MAKE THAT MODIFICATION, TO INCLUDE IT, TO BRING IT BACK AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS YOUR MOTION.
ONE CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT TIMEFRAME THE PARKS MASTER PLAN WAS COMING BACK? IT'S YEAH. SEPTEMBER 26TH.
I'M GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSED OVER HERE.
AND I DON'T RECALL THAT MOTION BEING MADE.
I HAD MADE IT, BUT THEY ASKED ME TO REORDER IT.
SO. YEAH, SO THAT WE COULD GET CLARIFICATION.
THAT'S FINE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL DO THE OKAY.
NOW WE CAN HAVE THE OTHER DISCUSSION.
OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, AND THIS IS A QUESTION, IT SOUNDS LIKE, DO I NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN IN ORDER FOR ME TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION? I JUST AM CURIOUS.
YOU SAID THAT THIS IS COMING BACK TO US IN ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO IS THERE IF WE WERE TO ADD THIS ON, WOULD THAT BE TOO CHALLENGING FOR STAFF IN TERMS OF A TIME FRAME? UNFORTUNATELY, THE WE'RE PROBABLY NOT PICKING UP THE NODDING THAT I'M RECEIVING OF YES, IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THIS.
WE COULD INCLUDE IT AS A SEPARATE ITEM AT A LATER DATE.
OKAY. AND KYLE, FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, WHEN AND I'M SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT LIKE THIS, BUT WHEN DO YOU THINK STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A SCOPE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DISTANCE BASED STANDARD? YES. THANK YOU, SIR.
SO ONCE WE HAVE THE MASTER PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU AND PRESUMING THAT IS ADOPTED, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO SAY WITHIN THE FOLLOWING 60 DAYS, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A 30 DAY ROUTING PERIOD ON STAFF REPORTS THROUGH THE MANAGER AND THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
MAY I ASK THAT? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WILL HAVE JUST I'M ASKING QUESTIONS NOW BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADD ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
DURING THAT CONVERSATION, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE I MEAN.
YES, MA'AM. THAT IS MY ANTICIPATION.
AND THE REVISED EQUITY MAPPING WILL AGAIN PROVIDE YOU WITH A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE TOTALITY OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATIONAL AREAS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
SO CERTAINLY WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION DURING THE SEPTEMBER 26TH HEARING ON THE MASTER PLAN AND THEN YOU CAN PROVIDE US FURTHER DIRECTION AT THAT TIME. IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH SCOPING ON A PROXIMITY GUIDELINE.
IT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE ACHIEVABLE TO HAVE BOTH STANDARDS MET.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I'VE TYPICALLY REFERRED TO IT AS A GUIDELINE.
IT WOULD BE SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE STANDARD OF THREE ACRES PER THOUSAND.
OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE AN OPTION FOR US TO DISCUSS THAT.
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OBVIOUSLY BEEN DISCUSSING FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT.THIS IS PRE MY TIME, SO SOUNDS LIKE ON THE 26TH WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A MOTION? I HAVEN'T MADE ONE. I WAS JUST ASKING QUESTIONS.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY FROM THIS LAST QUESTION, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD ADD THE TOPIC OF A GUIDELINE REGARDING PARK PROXIMITY OR DISTANCE TO PARKS TO OUR DISCUSSION ON SEPTEMBER 26TH WITHOUT TOO MUCH EXTRA EFFORT.
YES. OKAY, SO THEN IT'S THEN DO WE NOT NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? WE'RE JUST ASKING STAFF TO ADD IT TO THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT RELATES? I'LL BE AS CLEAR AS I POSSIBLY CAN BE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT STAFF CAN ACCOMMODATE THIS REQUEST? WE CAN OPEN THE DISCUSSION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT A PROXIMITY..
DISCUSSION IS ONE THING THOUGH, BUT ARE WE? WILL STAFF BE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT SCOPE? NO, SIR. OKAY.
SO THEN, BUT WE CAN HAVE AS A TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION SO THE COUNCIL COULD PROVIDE FURTHER DIRECTION? YES, SIR. PERFECT.
OKAY. AND NO MOTION NEEDED FOR THAT THEN.
THANK YOU. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
YEP. SO I WOULD MOVE THAT AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DISCUSS RAISING OR YEAH, RAISING THE LEVEL OF WHAT PROP H WAS ADOPTED AT AND CONSIDERING THAT FOR A BALLOT MEASURE FOR NEXT ELECTION CYCLE.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO AMEND CITY ATTORNEY BASED ON MY LANGUAGE, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT.
SO RATHER THAN PUTTING THAT ON THERE THAT LANGUAGE RECOMMENDATIONS.
HAPPY TO. AND FOR OUR OFFICE, THE LIKELIHOOD WOULD BE AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD CLARIFY WHAT THE MOTION JUST THE WHAT THE MOTION ACTUALLY IS TO MODIFY PROP H TO BRING BACK? WELL, WHAT I WAS AIMING FOR IS TO BRING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AN AGENDA ITEM TO ALLOW YOU TO DISCUSS OPTIONS RELATED TO PROP H, WHICH COULD INCLUDE A BALLOT MEASURE.
DEFINITELY. SECOND, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, NEXT TOPIC, PLEASE.
WHAT WAS THE OTHER TOPIC? ENERGY.
YEAH. OKAY. I'LL MAKE THE THE MOTION.
I MOVE THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN AGENDA ITEM REGARDING THE POTENTIAL FORMATION OF AN ENERGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR A SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE WITH ENERGY RENEWABLE ENERGY AS PART OF ITS SCOPE.
WE HAVE A SECOND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THAT'S OKAY. ANY OTHER TOPICS ON THIS? OKAY. DO WE NEED ANYTHING ELSE CITY ATTORNEY? NOTHING. THANKS. OKAY.
HOW ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? HOW ABOUT A TEN MINUTE BREAK? WE'LL RECONVENE AT FIVE MINUTES AFTER THAT SAYS TEN.
CALLING OUR MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.
[10. SELECTING INTERSECTION TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARACK AVENUE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT – 1)]
OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, TOM FRANK, ALONG WITH OUR ASSOCIATE ENGINEER, LAUREN FARRELL.CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, MY NAME IS TOM FRANK.
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I'M THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND YOUR CITY ENGINEER.JOINING ME IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER, LAUREN FARRELL, ASSOCIATE ENGINEER.
AND WE WILL BE PRESENTING OPTIONS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SAFETY FEATURES AT THE INTERSECTION OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARACK AVENUE, ALONG WITH OTHER CHANGES THAT WILL BRING THIS INTERSECTION INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S MOBILITY POLICIES.
TODAY'S RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PERMITTING AND FINAL ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR A ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARACK AVENUE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ALSO DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL INSTEAD.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ALONG THE COAST AT CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARACK AVENUE.
BY MAKING CHANGES TO THE DESIGNS OF OUR STREETS.
WHAT WE ARE REALLY DOING IS INFLUENCING THE WAY PEOPLE USE OUR STREETS.
THIS OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED BY THE PROJECT INCLUDES MANAGING, SPEEDING, ADDING SAFETY FEATURES AND CREATING UP TO ABOUT EIGHT ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS.
OPTION ONE IS A ROUNDABOUT AND OPTION TWO IS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
THIS INTERSECTION IS IDENTIFIED AS A HIGH COLLISION AREA ON OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY HEAT MAP.
THE BUS STOP HAS BEEN MOVED OUT OF THE INTERSECTION.
WE GET WIDER SIDEWALKS, WHICH IS DOUBLE THE WIDTH OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THERE.
BIKES HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR GETTING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
ONE, THOSE THAT FEEL COMFORTABLE CAN TAKE THE LANE SINCE CAR SPEEDS WILL BE SLOWED DOWN, IT'S COMFORTABLE FOR MANY BICYCLISTS TO MERGE WITH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND RIDE THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT.
OR TWO, THOSE LESS EXPERIENCED BICYCLISTS CAN ENTER THE NEW MULTI USE PATH AT THE CORNERS AT A SLOWER SPEED THROUGH THE OPENING CROSS THE SHARED PATHWAY AND CROSSWALK, AND THEN ENTER BACK INTO THE BUFFERED BIKE LANES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION.
WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE BIKING COMMUNITY TO ENSURE IT ADDRESSED THEIR NEEDS WHILE ALSO MAKING SURE THE PATH WOULD REMAIN ACCESSIBLE TO THE PEDESTRIANS, INCLUDING PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS.
HERE'S THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION LOOKING NORTH ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
YOU'LL NOTICE THE PATH OVER THE BRIDGE IS MUCH WIDER.
WITH THIS OPTION, WE CAN MAXIMIZE IT TO 14 TO 16FT.
THIS IS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPTION LOOKING SOUTH ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
WE HAVE FIVE VEHICULAR LANES AT THE INTERSECTION.
THE SIDEWALK WIDTH ALONG THE RESTAURANT STAYS THE SAME AT FIVE FEET.
EXCUSE ME, MR. FRANK. I THINK YOU'RE ONE SLIDE AHEAD.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT AND I APOLOGIZE.
SO HOPEFULLY. DID YOU SEE THE.
SO HERE IS OPTION TWO, LOOKING NORTHBOUND ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
THE PATHWAY OVER THE BRIDGE TAPERS FROM 9 TO 16FT.
AND HERE IS A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE TWO PATHWAYS AND SPACE FOR PEOPLE WHO BIKE.
FIRST, ROUNDABOUTS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO REDUCE SPEEDING.
THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN CARLSBAD, THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF SEVERE COLLISIONS IS UNSAFE SPEED.
SIMILARLY, THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF FATAL COLLISIONS IN CARLSBAD IS UNSAFE SPEED.
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THIS IS WHY YOU'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE CITIES CHANGE THEIR ROAD DESIGNS TO MANAGE SPEEDS WITH THE APPROPRIATE LANE WIDTH AND ROUNDABOUTS AT INTERSECTIONS.SPEEDING IS ESPECIALLY DANGEROUS WHEN COLLISIONS INVOLVE PEDESTRIANS.
A COLLISION WITH CARS GOING 40 MILES AN HOUR RESULTS IN A PERSON SURVIVING 15% OF THE TIME.
GIVEN THE HIGH NUMBER OF PEDESTRIANS AT THIS INTERSECTION.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION.
IN CARLSBAD ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IN REDUCING INJURY ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS REDUCING INJURY COLLISIONS OVERALL.
IN CARLSBAD, 65% OF ALL INJURY COLLISIONS HAPPEN AT OR WITHIN 100FT OF AN INTERSECTION.
ADD TO THAT THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE DRIVING AT HIGHER SPEEDS THROUGH TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SOME ACTUALLY SPEED UP AT YELLOW LIGHTS, THE CHANCES OF SERIOUS INJURY OR FATALITY INCREASES.
AND WHEN THERE ARE COLLISIONS, THEY TEND TO BE FENDER BENDERS, INJURY OR DEATH COLLISIONS.
FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE ACCESS TO A LOT OF DATA ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS BECAUSE THEY'VE BECOME SO POPULAR.
NATIONAL STATISTICS SHOW ROUNDABOUTS PROVIDE MORE THAN 90% REDUCTION IN FATALITIES.
67% REDUCTION IN INJURIES AND 35% REDUCTION IN CRASHES.
I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE COLLISION HISTORY AT THE STATE STREET ROUNDABOUT.
WE HAVE HEARD CONCERNS THAT THIS INTERSECTION IS NOT SAFE.
THERE HAVE BEEN 35 COLLISIONS SINCE THE ROUNDABOUT HAS BEEN INSTALLED.
OVER 80% WERE SINGLE PARTY COLLISIONS CAUSED BY DUI OR SPEEDING, WHERE AN OBJECT WAS STRUCK LIKE THE CENTER MEDIAN OR THEY RAN OFF THE ROAD. IF A DUI DRIVER IS STOPPED AT A ROUNDABOUT, THEN THERE ARE NO LONGER A THREAT TO FAMILIES OR RESIDENTS VISITING OUR BEACH AREA.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO LAUREN.
GETTING BACK TO PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL DECREASES THAT CROSSING DISTANCE TO 66FT ACROSS FIVE TRAFFIC LANES, WHEREAS CROSSING DISTANCE AT THE ROUNDABOUT IS UP TO 22FT AT A TIME, ONE THIRD OF THE DISTANCE OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CROSSWALK.
TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THAT DISTANCE, HERE'S A VIDEO SHOWING A MAN FEELING COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO CROSS THE STREET WITH HIS TODDLER AT A ROUNDABOUT IN BIRDROCK, LA JOLLA. TRAFFIC VOLUME ALONG LA JOLLA BOULEVARD IS ABOUT THE SAME AS CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
WE KNOW TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS ALWAYS A BIG CONCERN, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE COAST.
IN OUR TRAFFIC STUDY DURING PEAK HOURS IN THE MORNING, EVENING AND ON SATURDAY, DRIVERS WILL GET THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTION FASTER ON AVERAGE COMPARED TO THE INTERSECTION WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
WE HAVE RECEIVED QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
OUR FIRE CHIEF IS HERE TONIGHT IF THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
FINALLY, WE WANT TO SHARE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD ABOUT THE TWO OPTIONS.
THE OWNER OF THE NEARBY RESTAURANT VIGILANTES AND NEIGHBORS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION IN TERMS OF FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
WE'VE MENTIONED SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT.
FINALLY, OUR TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION.
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SO FOLLOWING YOUR DIRECTION TONIGHT, STAFF WILL COMPLETE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AND FINAL DESIGN, PRESENT THE FINAL DESIGN TO THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION IN 2025 AND GET YOUR APPROVAL TO BID THE PROJECT.THANK YOU. AND OUR TEAM IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.
PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, JERRY TUCKER, FOLLOWED BY DON THORSTENSON.
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF STATISTICS, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S HIS JOB.
HE IS A PERSON THAT GATHERS STATISTICS, GATHERS FACTS.
YOU KNOW, THOSE STATISTICS ARE KIND OF LIKE A BIKINI.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WHAT THEY REVEAL IS SUGGESTIVE, BUT WHAT THEY COVER IS VITAL.
AND THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT BEING COVERED.
IF YOU WERE TO GO DOWN THERE YOURSELVES ON A SATURDAY MORNING, JUST SIT THERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE GRASS, TAKE A CHAIR AND LOOK AT THAT SITUATION AND TRY TO SEE HOW THAT COULD POSSIBLY WORK.
WE TALKED ABOUT IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE GOING IN ON A BICYCLE, YOU CAN GO ON THE SHARED PATH, WHICH WE HAVE TO CALL A SHARED PATH BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GO ON IT IF IT WAS WHAT IT REALLY IS, IS A SIDEWALK.
CAN YOU IMAGINE A KID, YOU KNOW, TEN YEAR OLD KID ON AN E-BIKE? YOU THINK HE'S GOING TO SLOW DOWN WHEN HE GETS DECIDES HE WANTS TO GO UP ON THE CURB THERE AND GO INTO THE SHARED PATH? NO, HE'S NOT. HE'S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WOW, THIS GOT TO BE A BAD ACCIDENT.
SO I GET DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION AND THEY WERE WORKING ON THE BUS STOP ON.
AND SO THEY HAD IT REDUCED TO ONE LANE.
AND THAT WASN'T EVEN DURING THE SUMMER.
I CAN'T IMAGINE ONE LANE ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, ONE LANE.
AND JUST LIKE I SAID, IF YOU YOU KNOW, FROM A LOGICAL STANDPOINT, YES, THINGS DO WORK.
I MEAN, THOSE ROUNDABOUTS WORK GREAT IN SMALL COMMUNITIES.
THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS DON THORSTENSEN. MY WIFE AND I LIVE IN THAT AT THIS INTERSECTION IN THE WHITE CONDOS RIGHT AT CARLSBAD AND TAMARACK ON THE BEHALF OF THE TWO OF US AND THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. I JUST WANT TO SAY WE'RE 100% IN SUPPORT OF THE RECOMMENDED ROUNDABOUT.
MOST OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD AT THE TRAFFIC MOBILITY COMMISSIONS HAVE DEALT WITH CONCERN OVER HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY WORK? HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS DOES WHAT IT DOES? I JUST WANT TO SAY, JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT FUNCTIONS DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT DOESN'T FUNCTION.
IF YOU HUMOR ME FOR A SECOND, YOU GO BACK 100 YEARS IN TIME.
WE HAD A CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO BUILD AN AIRPORT FOR THIS THING CALLED HUMAN FLIGHT.
YOU'D BE LAUGHED OUT OF THE ROOM BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND FLYING.
WE'LL GET INTO A 200,000 POUND TIN CAN RIGHT NOW AND FLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
RIGHT. LAMINAR FLOW OF AIR ON A WING, HIGH PRESSURE, LOW PRESSURE WE GO UP.
EVEN IF WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO IT BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THAT IT WORKS.
BUT WE'VE SEEN IT WORK UP AND DOWN OUR COASTAL COMMUNITIES.
THE SIGN SAYS, WHAT'S RIGHT FOR CARLSBAD IS NOT ALWAYS POPULAR.
YOU'VE GOT A PROPOSAL THAT WAS UNANIMOUSLY PROPOSED FROM THE COMMITTEE.
IT BEATS THE ALTERNATIVES IN EVERY MEASURE AVAILABLE.
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SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IT IS RIGHT.AND IT DOES SERVE THE COMMUNITY THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
MARK EMBREE, FOLLOWED BY JOHN JAMES.
UH, 11 MONTHS AGO, MY DAUGHTER IN LAW WAS KILLED AT THE INTERSECTION OF BASSWOOD AND VALLEY.
THE DRIVER WHO HIT HER CHOSE TO BE DISTRACTED.
SHE CHOSE TO IGNORE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS.
SHE CHOSE TO IGNORE SIGNS AND GARDENS SAYING, PLEASE SLOW DOWN, OUR KIDS ARE HERE.
SHE CHOSE TO IGNORE A STOP SIGN AND SHE CHOSE TO IGNORE THE WORD STOP PAINTED IN THE STREET.
IF YOU VOTE FOR THE INTERSECTION, YOU'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO MAKE DECISIONS.
MOST DRIVERS CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER.
SHE SAID, I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO IT.
HOW DISTRACTED WAS SHE? HER CAR RAN OVER MY DAUGHTER IN LAW WITH THE FRONT WHEEL, THEN RAN OVER HER WITH THE BACK WHEEL.
THE TRAUMA SURGEON SAID IT WAS THE WORST TRAUMA HE HAD SEEN IN 40 YEARS OF TRAUMA SURGERY.
BECAUSE SHE CHOSE TO BE DISTRACTED.
YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE ROUNDABOUT.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE BICYCLISTS, OF WHICH I'M ONE.
AND DRIVERS OF AUTOMOBILES AND TRUCKS ENGAGE WITH THE ROAD AND SLOW DOWN.
I FOUND SOMETHING OUT ABOUT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
THEY USED TO HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED LIVABLE STREETS.
WHERE STREETS WERE DESIGNED FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST CARS.
THEY WERE DESIGNED FOR ALL OF US.
MY DAUGHTER IN LAW IS NO LONGER HERE.
WELL, WHY WAS OUR DAUGHTER IN LAW TAKEN AWAY? THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JOHN JAMES.
I LIVE AT 4054 GARFIELD STREET.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE OWNED OUR HOME FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
WE ARE IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT AS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, NOT A ROUNDABOUT.
ONE, AS I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE HERE AND WHY DO WE NEED A ROUNDABOUT? HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE REALLY OCCURRED IN THIS INTERSECTION AS IT IS RIGHT NOW? WE'VE USED THIS INTERSECTION FOR OVER 20 YEARS, DRIVING AND ALSO TAKING OUR GRANDCHILDREN ACROSS TO THE TO THE BEACH.
WE FOUND THAT IT WORKS QUITE WELL AS IT IS.
THE CARS AND BIKES DO THE SAME THING.
THERE'S AN ORGANIZED STOP AND GO THAT WORKS THERE.
THE STAFF REPORTS 366 PAGES TO JUSTIFY THE ROUNDABOUT.
THAT ALONE SHOULD SEND UP RED FLAGS.
PAGE EIGHT SHOWS AND I THINK HE SHOWED A DIAGRAM OF THE TWO STREETS.
YOU KNOW, I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TWO CARS, TWO CAR LANES, A BIKE LANE EACH WAY AND A NORTH-SOUTH CENTER LANE WORKS BETTER THAN A SINGLE LANE WITH ONE CAR AND ONE BIKE WORKING WITH EACH OTHER.
I DON'T SEE THEM GOING ON THE SIDEWALK.
THEY'LL TRY TO DO IT. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE MASS CHAOS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE THIS THING WORK OR TRY TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND I'M NOT VOTING AGAINST ROUNDABOUTS IN GENERAL.
I'M VOTING AGAINST ROUNDABOUTS AT THIS INTERSECTION.
PAT WARD, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL HEDRICK.
I'M A RESIDENT OF TAMARACK AVENUE AND CARLSBAD, ALONG WITH DON, WERE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
AND I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF A ROUNDABOUT.
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I'M ORIGINALLY FROM PENNSYLVANIA.I'VE SEEN IT WORK VERY WELL THERE.
TRAFFIC MOVING MUCH EASIER ONCE THEY INSTALLED THE ROUNDABOUTS, FOUR OF THEM BETWEEN ALLENTOWN AND LANCASTER, SPEEDED TRAFFIC UP.
I COULD CUT MY TRIP ALMOST IN HALF TO GET THERE JUST BECAUSE TRAFFIC REALLY NEVER STOPPED ANYMORE.
THE NOISE THAT COMES FROM THE EVERYBODY STOPPED AT THAT LIGHT.
WE WAIT FOR THE TRAFFIC TO GO BY AND THEN WE PICK UP A CONVERSATION AGAIN.
WE STOP IT WHILE THE NOISE TRAVELS PAST US.
THE DIRT THAT COMES FROM THAT HIGHWAY IS ALSO AMAZING.
WE WATCH PEOPLE RUN ACROSS THAT STREET TRYING TO BEAT THAT TIMER.
AND THAT'S SCARY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE KIDS THERE AS WELL AND ALL THE THE E-BIKES.
SO I AM HERE IN FAVOR OF A ROUNDABOUT.
I THINK THEY'RE VERY EFFECTIVE AND I LIKE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN SO FAR.
I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME RESIDENT HERE AT CARLSBAD.
I'VE GONE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION BY CAR, BY BICYCLE OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS, MOST OF IT BY FOOT, AND SOMETIMES PUSHING MY KIDS IN STROLLERS WHEN THEY WERE TODDLERS.
MY KIDS NOW PASS THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, MOSTLY WALKING WITH SURFBOARDS UNDER THEIR ARMS. WE HAVE NEVER FELT SAFE GOING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.
A GOOD MAJORITY OF CARS SPEED UP.
AND WE'VE JUST NEVER WE'VE NEVER FELT SAFE.
THAT LACK OF SAFETY HAS BEEN EXACERBATED BY A DEATH.
IT WAS MENTIONED HERE THAT WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE FIXING? THERE WAS A DEATH RIGHT ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS AGO THAT HAPPENED RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY MOM'S CONDO.
A CAR WAS SPEEDING AT 60 PLUS MILES AN HOUR THROUGH THE VERY SAME INTERSECTION, LOST CONTROL OF THEIR VEHICLE, CROSSED THE MEDIAN HIT, HIT A PEDESTRIAN WHO WAS ENJOYING THEIR AFTERNOON WALK ON THE BEACH.
SO PEOPLE HAVE DIED ALONG THAT STRETCH OF HIGHWAY BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DRIVING TOO FAST.
WELL I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, TO BE DATA DRIVEN IN THIS PARTICULAR DECISION, AS WAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS POPULAR FOR CARLSBAD IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT. AND WHAT IS RIGHT IS NOT ALWAYS POPULAR.
AND SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE A DECISION THAT'S DATA DRIVEN.
CHUCK PATEROS, FOLLOWED BY LAUREN CHAFFIN.
I WENT TO THIS LITTLE SPUNKY LITTLE COMPANY CALLED VIASAT.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO LIVE IN CARLSBAD.
SO MY CHILDREN HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SCHOOLS, AND SO WE LIVE WHERE WE CAN WALK TO TAMARACK BEACH.
I WALK TO CATCH THE BUS TO CATCH THE COASTER, AND IT'S A NIGHTMARE GETTING ACROSS THERE.
SO IN THE SHORT TIME I HAVE LEFT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN I FIRST SAW MY FIRST NOTICE OF THIS WAS FROM THE SAN DIEGO BIKE COALITION, AND I SAW THE THING AND I SAID, OH, THIS IS GREAT.
I'M GOING TO GO AND TELL THEM WHY THEY SHOULDN'T PUT A ROUNDABOUT THERE.
BUT THEN I DUG INTO THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
I SAW THAT PETE PENSEYRES WAS ON THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE.
SO I CONTACTED HIM AND HE HE BASICALLY WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST SAY THAT PETE PENSEYRES THE THE YEAR OF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, 1986 WAS PETE'S SECOND YEAR WINNING THE BICYCLE RACE ACROSS AMERICA, AND THAT HE SET A RECORD THAT STOOD FOR 27 YEARS BECAUSE HE DID SOMETHING NOVEL AND THAT NO ONE THOUGHT WOULD BE A REASONABLE THING TO DO.
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AND, YOU KNOW, 27 YEARS LATER, THE REST OF THE COUNTRY COSTS THE REST OF THE WORLD CAUGHT UP TO HIM.SO ANYWAY, I TRUST PETE AND I HOPE YOU TRUST HIM, TOO.
THANKS. [INAUDIBLE] HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I TOO LIVE NEAR THE INTERSECTION AND I'M FIRMLY AGAINST THE ROUNDABOUT.
AND WHILE THE FIRE TRUCKS, I BELIEVE, CAN NAVIGATE THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY HOW THEY NAVIGATE THROUGH A ONE LANE INTERSECTION WHEN THEY GET PAST THE ROUNDABOUT, YES, THEY CAN GET THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT WITH LIGHTS AND SIRENS, HOW DO THEY GO PAST WHEN THERE ARE CARS ALL OVER? THEY JUST SIT AND I FEAR THE RESPONSE TIMES WILL BE GREATLY REDUCED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR FOR YOUR TIME.
WILLIAM FOWLER, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTINA MCGOLDRICK.
I'D LIKE TO SEE CARLSBAD COME INTO THE 21ST CENTURY.
TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE AN EARLY 1900S SOLUTION TO TRAFFIC CONTROL THAT HAS ENABLED DRUNK, SPEEDING AND RECKLESS DRIVERS TO KILL, MAIM, MAIM AND INJURE PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS AND DRIVERS OVER FOR OVER A CENTURY.
CITIES ACROSS THE US AND THE WORLD HAVE IMPLEMENTED THOUSANDS OF ROUNDABOUTS THAT HAVE SAVED COUNTLESS LIVES AND ENABLED SMOOTHER FLOW OF TRAFFIC AT MANY INTERSECTIONS, INCLUDING THOSE THAT EXPERIENCE FREQUENT CONGESTION AND THE PRESENCE OF PEDESTRIANS.
SLOWING TRAFFIC IS THE ONLY SURE WAY TO REDUCE ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES AND INJURIES.
IT IS THE ONE WAY THAT ONE WAY TO REDUCE THEM IN CARLSBAD AND ROUNDABOUTS SLOW TRAFFIC.
I WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE CLAIM THAT THE STATE STREET ROUNDABOUT IS SOMEHOW INDICATIVE OF WHAT THE EXPERIENCE WOULD BE IN THE TAMARACK ROUNDABOUT.
ASSESSMENT OF RISK REQUIRES FAR MORE DATA AND PICKING OUT NUMBERS FROM A DATA SET THAT INCLUDES HUGE AMOUNT OF DATA IS SIMPLY NOT APPROPRIATE AND SHOULD NOT BE USED TO JUDGE THE SAFETY OF THE INTERSECTION AT TAMARACK.
I AM HERE TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN THIS EVENING.
MYSELF AND OTHER RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT TWO AND ACROSS THE CITY SUPPORT THIS ITEM.
ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE VOICED THEIR SUPPORT.
THESE ARE EDUCATED PROFESSIONALS THAT CAN BE TRUSTED IN THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE.
THEY HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED AS AN EFFECTIVE NON MANNED 24 HOUR DUI CHECKPOINT FOR DRIVERS.
THEY SAVE LIVES ON STREETS THAT HAVE A CONTINUAL RATE OF REGULAR DUIS AND EXCESSIVE SPEEDING.
THIS DIRECTLY APPLIES TO CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT CHANGE CAN BE DIFFICULT AND REQUIRES A GROWTH MINDSET.
THE THREE E'S ARE ESSENTIAL ENGINEERING, EDUCATION AND ENFORCEMENT.
IT IS CRUCIAL TO PROPERLY ENGINEER THE ROADS BASED ON THEIR CURRENT PUBLIC USE AND POPULATIONS.
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ENGINEERING IS THE FOUNDATION THAT SUPPORTS THE SUCCESS OF EFFECTIVE EDUCATION AND EFFICIENT ENFORCEMENT.WE'RE ASKING EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER TO VOTE YES ON AGENDA ITEM 10.1 THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
ROBERT WILKINSON CAMEO ROAD HERE IN OLD CARLSBAD.
AND WITH THAT, I AM IN FAVOR OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
UH, TAMARACK AVENUE IS UNIQUE IN CARLSBAD.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT VIEW IS BLEMISHED BY THE STRUCTURE THAT IS IN THE CENTER OF IT, A STRUCTURE THAT LOOKS LIKE AN OUTHOUSE, BECAUSE IT IS. IT'S THE RESTROOMS. NOW, WE CERTAINLY NEED THE RESTROOMS THERE NEEDED USE IN THAT AREA, BUT WE COULD DO MUCH BETTER IN THE APPEARANCE OF THAT STRUCTURE.
SO. IN RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WE CAN REMODEL THE BUILDING AND MAKE IT A POSITIVE PART OF THAT VIEW.
GRANTED, IT'S PROBABLY THE STATE'S FACILITY, BUT I'M SURE WITH THE EXPERTISE IN THE MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT WE CAN COORDINATE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE ON IT.
SO I RECENTLY COMPLETED A TERM ON THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION, WHERE I SUPPORTED SEVERAL TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND ROUNDABOUT AND VEHICLE LANE ELIMINATION PROJECTS, INCLUDING ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
BUT CONTEXT IS CRITICAL AND I DO NOT SUPPORT THE SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT HERE AT TAMARACK AVENUE DUE TO BOTH SAFETY AND OPERATIONAL CONCERNS BASED ON ITS HIGH VOLUMES OF VEHICLES, PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLES AND ALSO TRANSIT.
SO STARTING WITH THE SAFETY CONCERNS.
LAST NOVEMBER, COUNCIL ADOPTED ITS FIRST LOCAL ROADWAY SAFETY PLAN, OR LRSP.
OOPS, SORRY. THAT WAS THE CORRECT SLIDE FOR THAT.
THE DARK PURPLE CIRCLES THAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED WITH RED SQUARES SHOW THAT THE STATE STREET ROUNDABOUT IS IN THE TOP THREE INTERSECTIONS IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS THE INTERSECTIONS OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD WITH EL CAMINO REAL AND MELROSE DRIVE, WHICH CARRY 4 TO 5 TIMES MORE TRAFFIC.
ALL RIGHT. IN THIS TABLE FROM THE LRSP TAKES TRAFFIC VOLUMES INTO ACCOUNT.
SO CRASHES PER MILLION VEHICLES.
AND THIS SHOWS THAT THE STATE STREET ROUNDABOUT, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ROUNDABOUT PLAN THAT'S PLANNED FOR TAMARACK, JUMPS TO THE VERY TOP OF THE LIST WITH THE HIGHEST COLLISION RATE OF ANY INTERSECTION IN CARLSBAD BY FAR.
ALL RIGHT. SO FOR A COUPLE OTHER EXAMPLES OF NEARBY URBAN COMPACT ROUNDABOUTS, THIS IS A SATELLITE IMAGE SHOWING THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS ON LEUCADIA BOULEVARD, WEST OF I-5 AND THE RED BOXES. AND BETWEEN THOSE TWO ROUNDABOUTS AND THE GREEN BOX IS A FOUR WAY STOP INTERSECTION.
AND NOTABLY HERE, THE ROUNDABOUTS HAVE COLLISION FREQUENCIES TWICE AS HIGH AS THE FOUR WAY STOP BETWEEN THEM, WHICH IS VERY INCONSISTENT WITH THE SORT OF GENERIC DATA WE'VE SEEN FROM STAFF.
USING MY BACKGROUND AS A SCIENTIST WORKING WITH LARGE COMPLEX DATA SETS, I EXPANDED THE LRSP CRASH ANALYSIS TO THE NINE YEAR PERIOD FROM THE COMPLETION OF THE STATE STREET ROUNDABOUT TO PRESENT FOR BOTH THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE CURRENT SIGNALIZED TAMARACK AVENUE INTERSECTION, USING THE SAME UNDERLYING DATA AND METHODS AS CARLSBAD'S
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LRSP. FOR REFERENCE, CRASHES CAN BE DIVIDED INTO GENERALLY LESS DANGEROUS ONES.FOR EXAMPLE, HIT OBJECTS, SIDESWIPES AND REAR ENDS AND MORE DANGEROUS ONES LIKE BROADSIDES, HEAD ONS AND OVERTURNS AND INJURIES CAN ESCALATE FROM PROPERTY DAMAGE. ONLY COMPLAINT OF PAIN, VISIBLE INJURY, SEVERE INJURY AND DEATH.
THE TIMER IS KIND OF BLOCKING THE SLIDE THERE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, LOOK AT THE TOTAL COLLISIONS ROW ON THE TOP.
THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INTERSECTION AT TAMARACK AVENUE HAD 14 CRASHES THAT ROSE TO THE LEVEL OF A POLICE REPORT DURING THE NINE YEAR PERIOD, WHILE THE STATE STREET ROUNDABOUT HAD 40 AND FURTHER ADJUSTING FOR THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS, THE CRASH RATE AT THE ROUNDABOUT WAS 4.9 TIMES HIGHER.
SO THESE REAL WORLD LOCAL RESULTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LRSP REPORT, BUT COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT WITH THE GENERIC SAFETY CLAIMS BEING MADE ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS IN CARLSBAD. SOME HAVE MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE ROUNDABOUTS ACT AS DUI FILTERS, CAUSING IMPAIRED DRIVERS TO CRASH IN SOLO CRASHES AND THAT SUCH CRASHES SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM ANALYSIS BECAUSE THEY MAKE PEOPLE SAFER.
HOWEVER, SEVERAL OF THE SOLO DUI CRASHES AT THE STATE STREET ROUNDABOUT LED TO VISIBLE INJURIES.
AND CONSIDER THE FACT THAT IMPAIRED OR DISTRACTED DRIVERS MAY NOT JUST SOLO CRASH BUT CRASH INTO DRIVERS, PEDESTRIANS OR CYCLISTS WITH WHOM THEY ARE FORCED TO MIX AT THE ROUNDABOUT. AND SO WHILE I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE THAT WE SHOULD EXCLUDE THOSE SOLO DUI CRASHES FROM THE STATE STREET ROUNDABOUT COLLISION HISTORY, WHEN YOU DO THAT, LOOK AT THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN. EVEN WHEN YOU EXCLUDE ALL OF THOSE SOLO DUI CRASHES, IT'S STILL TWO AND A HALF TO THREE, THREE AND A HALF TIMES HIGHER CRASH AND INJURY FREQUENCY AT THE ROUNDABOUT VERSUS THE TAMARACK AVENUE SIGNAL.
OKAY NOW, THIS IS RELATED TO PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TYPE OF ROUNDABOUT THAT'S BEEN POINTED OUT IS THAT THEY ONLY HAVE TO CROSS TWO VEHICLE LANES ONE AT A TIME WITH AN ISLAND REFUGE BETWEEN THEM, AS I'VE SHOWN IN THE RED SQUARE THERE, WHERE THAT PERSON IN THE WHEELCHAIR IS.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO STOP VEHICLE AND BICYCLE TRAFFIC, SO PEDESTRIANS HAVE TO WAIT FOR A BREAK IN TRAFFIC OR AGGRESSIVELY START ACROSS THE CROSSWALK AND HOPE THAT TRAFFIC STOPS FOR THEM.
BUT IS THE PERSON WHO'S RUNNING THE RED LIGHT GOING TO STOP FOR THE GUY IN THE WHEELCHAIR AS HE'S STARTING TO CROSS, OR IS HE AGGRESSIVE AND GOING TO GO THROUGH IT? AND THERE IS NO RED LIGHT HERE.
STAFF HAS INDICATED THEY MAY HAVE TO INSTALL A BUTTON OPERATED FLASHING BEACONS OR STOP LIGHTS IN THE FUTURE FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, BUT THAT DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE ROUNDABOUT. NOW FOR CYCLIST SAFETY.
HOWEVER, ONLY MORE EXPERIENCED CYCLISTS MAY BE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT.
OTHERS MAY STAY TO THE RIGHT IN THE ROUNDABOUT LANE, WHICH IS VERY DANGEROUS.
ALTERNATIVELY, THEY'LL OPT FOR THAT RED ARROW WHERE THEY GO ONTO THE SIDEWALK AND HAVE TO TAKE SORT OF THE CONVOLUTED ROUTE ACROSS THE CROSSWALK, AND THEN THAT PUTS THE PEDESTRIANS AT DANGER. ALL RIGHT NOW, I WAS TRYING TO COMPRESS MY TEN MINUTE TALK INTO SEVEN MINUTES, AND I HAD ANOTHER SECTION ON OPERATIONAL CONCERNS, WHICH I'LL START HERE.
AND I HAVE A COLLEAGUE WHO WILL PROBABLY FINISH UP.
SO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION PROVIDES GUIDANCE ON MAXIMUM CAPACITIES OF ROAD DIETS AND SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUTS, WHICH VARY FROM 16 TO 20,000 VEHICLES PER DAY, OR 875 TO 1,200 VEHICLES PER HOUR COMING FROM A SINGLE DIRECTION.
PAST COUNTS HAVE SHOWN THAT CARLSBAD BOULEVARD HAS ALREADY GREATLY EXCEEDED THESE MAXIMUM VALUES, AND I WILL HAVE MY COLLEAGUE CONTINUE THIS TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS TRAFFIC STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE THE CURRENT ONE TO SHOW THAT IT WAS A LEVEL OF SERVICE F AND PREDICTING GRIDLOCK. THANK YOU.
CHRIS WRIGHT, WHO IS REPRESENTING ELIZABETH BANKS.
I WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH THE SLIDE THAT HE JUST HAD AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT THE SLIDE SHOWS
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THAT THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WHICH PROVIDES GUIDANCE ON THE MAXIMUM CAPACITIES OF ROAD DIETS AND SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUTS, THEY INDICATE LIMITS OF ABOUT 16,000 TO 20,000 TOTAL VEHICLES PER DAY AND ABOUT 875 TO 1,200 VEHICLES PER HOUR COMING FROM A SINGLE DIRECTION. HOWEVER, PAST COUNTS HAVE SHOWN THAT CARLSBAD BOULEVARD HAS ALREADY CARRIED AROUND 24,000 VEHICLES PER DAY AND AROUND 13-150 VEHICLES PER HOUR IN A SINGLE DIRECTION, IN ADDITION TO HUNDREDS TO THOUSANDS OF PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS PER DAY, AS WELL AS A TRANSIT STOP.THE MOST RECENT TRAFFIC STUDY ON THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARACK BY WOOD ROGERS CLAIMS THE ROUNDABOUT WILL NOT CREATE ANY CONGESTION, WILL HAVE DELAYS SHORTER THAN FOUR LANE ROAD WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE ROUNDABOUT PLAN HAS NOT CHANGED MUCH SINCE THOSE STUDIES.
THIS PARTICULAR STUDY PROJECTED DEGRADATION TO A LEVEL SERVICE LEVEL OF SERVICE GRADE F IN A SCALE OF A TO F, WHERE F IS A FAILURE.
WHEN GRADE F IS REACHED WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS, CONGESTION TYPICALLY RESOLVES OVER TIME.
THE STUDY CONCLUDES, ADDED OVERALL, THE POOR OPERATING CONDITIONS OF THE ROUNDABOUT ARE DUE TO THE COMBINATION OF DECREASED CAPACITY AND INCREASED VOLUMES BASED ON INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUTS TYPICALLY OPERATE POORLY AT VOLUMES OF 1,200 VEHICLES PER HOUR.
PRESENT DAY AND FUTURE VOLUMES SUBSTANTIALLY SUBSTANTIALLY EXCEED THESE THIS THRESHOLD, END QUOTE.
THE STUDY ALSO WARNED THAT EXCESSIVE DELAY ON NORTHBOUND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD COULD LEAD TO CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC ON SEQUOIA AND GARFIELD STREET. TO HELP VISUALIZE SOME OF THESE CONSEQUENCES OF NARROWING TO A SINGLE LANE, THIS IS A VIEW FROM SOUTHBOUND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
LANE NUMBER ONE IS THE DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE TO EASTBOUND TAMARACK.
LANE TWO AND THREE ARE THOROUGH LANES.
LANE FOUR IS THE BIKE LANE AND LANE FIVE IS THE DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE TO THE BEACH PARKING LOT.
AND HERE AGAIN ARE THE FIVE FIVE CURRENT LANES.
WITH THE SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT OPTION, THE VEHICLES AND BICYCLES IN ALL FIVE OF THESE LANES HAVE FIRST TO MERGE INTO SINGLE ROUNDABOUT LANE BEFORE TURNING LEFT, GOING STRAIGHT OR TURNING RIGHT WITH THE POTENTIAL TO BACK UP TRAFFIC THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT.
NOTE THAT BICYCLISTS WILL ALSO LOSE THEIR OWN DEDICATED LANE AND HAVE TO MERGE WITH THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC OR INTERACT WITH POTENTIAL CROWDS ON THE SIDEWALK.
ALSO, PEDESTRIANS WILL HAVE NO BUFFER EXCEPT A CROSSWALK AT THE FOLLOWING TRAFFIC CYCLE CIRCLE.
PEDESTRIANS WILL HAVE NO INDICATION WHEN IT IS SAFE TO CROSS, UNLIKE A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.
IN ADDITION, ENTERING THE ROUNDABOUT FROM WESTBOUND TAMARACK COULD BE VERY CHALLENGING FOR SEVERAL HOURS PER DAY DURING HEAVY TRAFFIC BECAUSE 80 TO 90% OF THE TRAFFIC VEHICLE TRAFFIC IS ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD WHICH WILL DOMINATE THE ROUNDABOUT.
I ADDED THIS ON MY OWN BECAUSE I DID SOME RESEARCH.
THERE'S A PROGRAM ALREADY IN PLACE WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
IT'S CALLED THE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROGRAM, INITIALLY ESTABLISHED IN 2010, WHICH HAS REVOLUTIONIZED OUR CITY TRAFFIC BY CREATING A CENTRALIZED OPERATIONAL CONTROL SYSTEM CALLED THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER.
THE CITY HAS SPENT, ACCORDING TO 2016 DATA, $4.5 MILLION IN PROVIDING AN EFFICIENT WAY TO ENSURE THAT TRAFFIC IN OUR CITY FLOWS EVENLY.
ACCORDING TO ONE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, THE SYSTEM WORKS BEST IN PEAK TRAFFIC.
AS OF 2016 WE HAVE I HAVE ALL DATA 178 CONNECTED SIGNALS WITHIN THE CITY THAT
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OPERATE EFFICIENTLY DUE TO THE SYSTEM.THE GOOD THING IS THAT IT IS ALREADY PAID FOR AND IT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO WORK.
IN THE CASE OF THE TAMARACK VERSUS CARLSBAD BOULEVARD INTERSECTION, THIS IS THE IDEAL PLACE FOR A SMART SIGNAL IN WHICH CAN BE REGULATED FOR PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC AND ENSURE PROPER FLOW.
WE HAVE SEEN THE PROPOSAL BY THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAS FLAWED DATA, BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT WE HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THIS INTERSECTION AND IT IS FREE WITH THE POTENTIAL TO UPGRADE SOFTWARE.
THANK YOU. SOPHIA GOKEN, FOLLOWED BY MONA GOKEN.
HELLO, MY NAME IS SOPHIA GOKEN.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
FIRST, SAFETY STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT ROUNDABOUTS CAN REDUCE FATAL CRASHES BY UP TO 90% AND SERIOUS INJURIES BY UP TO 76% COMPARED TO TRADITIONAL SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS.
SECOND, ENVIRONMENTAL AND TRAFFIC IMPACT ROUNDABOUTS PROMOTE EFFICIENT TRAFFIC FLOW.
THIS IS NOT ONLY A BENEFITS DAILY COMMUTERS, BUT ALSO OUR PLANET.
LET US PRIORITIZE THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS, IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
BY MAKING THIS INVESTMENT TODAY, WE CAN CREATE A LASTING LEGACY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, ENSURING A VIBRANT AND THRIVING CITY FOR ALL OF US, INCLUDING FUTURE GENERATIONS. SINCE CURRENTLY ONLY 15% OF CARLSBAD'S GENERATION ARE RESIDENTS ARE OVER 65 YEARS OLD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION FOR MAKING OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND GROW.
TOGETHER WE CAN BUILD A FUTURE WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF.
MY NAME IS MONA GOKEN AND I'M A TEN YEAR RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD.
A FEW MONTHS AGO, A POST ON NEXTDOOR CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.
IT WAS TITLED CARLSBAD STAFF IS GETTING READY TO STICK IT TO US AGAIN.
INDIVIDUALS, WHETHER TRAINED IN ROUNDABOUT DESIGN OR NOT, SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT THEY KNOW BETTER THAN THE EXPERIENCED STAFF WHAT THE SAFEST OPTION FOR THESE INTERSECTIONS ARE.
SO MY QUESTION IS TO COUNCIL AND FELLOW RESIDENTS.
WHY DOES THE CITY SEARCHES FOR AND HIRES THE MOST QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS FOR ENGINEERING POSITION, PAYS THEM COMPETITIVE SALARIES AND BENEFITS IF THEIR EXPERT OPINIONS AND DECISIONS ARE NOT TRUSTED? AND EVEN WORSE, THE PUBLIC IS ATTACKING STAFF PERSONALLY WHEN THEY PROPOSE SOMETHING, WHEN STAFF PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT THEY BELIEVE IS THE BEST OPTION FOR OUR CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE USING THEIR EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE.
PUBLIC IS ATTACKING THEM BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.
IT'S LIKE ENTERING A SURGERY ROOM AND TELLING THE DOCTORS THAT THEIR YEARS OF EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE ARE GREAT, BUT WE KNOW BETTER THAN THEM FOR WHAT WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS PATIENT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CHOOSE TO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
CARLSBAD, 60, 65 YEARS OLD OR OLDER, IT'S ONLY MADE UP OF 15% OF THE POPULATION.
OUR RESIDENTS, 85% OF [INAUDIBLE].
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JOSEPH NEVINS, FOLLOWED BY JUDY FRANKEL.HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M SURE IF YOU RECOGNIZE MY NAME, I'VE SENT YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS.
MY WIFE DID WANT TO COME AND ADDRESS IT, PATTY.
UNFORTUNATELY, SHE'S A REGULATORY COMPLIANCE OFFICER AND SHE'S DEALING WITH PROBLEMS IN INDIA.
SHE'S ON A CONFERENCE CALL, [INAUDIBLE] SHE ACTUALLY GAVE ME SOMETHING TO READ TO YOU.
SO THIS IS MY WIFE, PATTY KNUTSON, WHO HAS BEEN A CYCLIST FOR OVER 20 YEARS, RECREATIONAL.
SHE COMMUTES TO WORK WHERE SHE DID BEFORE COVID.
AND WE ALSO RUN ERRANDS ON OUR OUR NEW E-BIKE.
AND SHE ALSO LEADS A WALKING GROUP.
SO SHE'S VERY WELL VERSED AND HAS INTIMATE RELATIONS WITH THESE TYPES OF INTERSECTIONS.
AT AN INTERSECTION THE DETECTORS EMBEDDED IN THE PAVEMENT TO DETECT THE CYCLIST IN THE LANE ARE BASED ON MAGNETIC INDUCTION, WHICH REQUIRES SOMETHING MADE OF FERROUS MATERIAL TO TRIGGER IT. BY THE WAY, MY WIFE IS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER, SO SHE KNOWS ALL THIS STUFF TOO.
MY BICYCLES WHEN ME OTHERS IN THE ROAD IS MADE OF A CARBON FIBER SO IT'S NOT DETECTABLE.
THIS MEANS IF I WANT TO TRIGGER A SIGNAL, I NEED TO GO UP ON THE SIDEWALK AND PUSH THE BUTTON AND THEN I'M TRAPPED OUT OUTSIDE OF THE TRAVEL LANES AND OR I HOPE A CAR COMES UP BEHIND ME. SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS HAVE CAMERAS TO DETECT CYCLISTS, BUT MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT THEY ONLY WORK ABOUT 50% OF THE TIME.
WHEN I DO GET TO THE LANE, I HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME [INAUDIBLE].
SO ON BEHALF OF BIKE WELL, CARLSBAD, I'M A CARLSBAD RESIDENT ALSO FOR 25 YEARS.
I'M IN SUPPORT FOR OPTION ONE FOR THE ROUNDABOUT.
ALL TRAFFIC DEATHS HAVE BEEN INCREASING EVERYWHERE AND SPEED IS ONE OF THE GREATEST CAUSES.
PERSONALLY, I USE THIS INTERSECTION OFFICE AS OFTEN AS A MOTORIST, CYCLIST AND PEDESTRIAN.
AS A RUNNER. I CROSS HERE TO RUN THE COAST.
A PEDESTRIAN MUST PUSH A BIG BUTTON AND STOP ALL TRAFFIC AT A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.
I MYSELF MISSED BEING HIT INCHES WHEN COMING OUT OF NORTH TAMARACK ONTO COLLEGE BY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ON MY BIKE WHEN A MOTORIST BLEW THE RED LIGHT GOING ON COLLEGE TOWARDS OCEANSIDE.
WHEN CROSSING AT A ROUNDABOUT AS A PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IS ONLY COMING FROM ONE DIRECTION AS YOU CROSS TO CENTER AND YOU ARE ONLY CROSSING ONE LANE AT A TIME, YOU'RE ONLY SLOWING TRAFFIC WHILE CROSSING THAT SHORT DISTANCE, NOT WAITING FOR A FULL CYCLE OF A LIGHT.
WHETHER ONE PEDESTRIAN IS CROSSING OR MANY, IT IS A MUCH SAFER SITUATION.
TRAFFIC FLOW IS NOT HELD UP AND KEEPS MOVING.
THE SAME CRIES HAVE BEEN HEARD EVERYWHERE WHEN CHANGE IS SUGGESTED.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED IN ENCINITAS WITH STREETSCAPE.
ARMAGEDDON HAS NOT MANIFESTED WHERE ROUNDABOUTS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, NOT IN ENCINITAS.
THE TRAFFIC FLOW HAS MAINTAINED THE SAME OR BETTER THROUGH THERE.
AND YEAH, IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
PETE PENSEYRES, FOLLOWED BY JOE WHITTAKER.
FIRST. THIS IS EMBARRASSING, BUT I HAVE LOOKED AT THE DATA THAT STEVE LINKEY ACTUALLY SENT ME A COPY OF IT AND I CAME TO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS.
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SO AND I SENT THAT TO YOU IN AN EMAIL.I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OVER THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS JUST I HAD A SMART CYCLING CLASS LAST NIGHT AND WE HAD 21 PEOPLE.
THREE OF THEM WERE MEMBERS OF MY CLUB.
THE OTHER 18 WERE PARENTS AND CHILDREN AGES SEVEN.
AND SO WE DISCUSSED THINGS LIKE CYCLING AND THE LAW AND THEN CRASHES AND HOW TO AVOID THEM.
THERE WAS SOME SOME REALLY GOOD RESPONSES, EVEN FROM A 12 YEAR OLD.
AND SO WE TEACH THEM THE TWO SAFE WAYS TO GET THROUGH ON A BIKE.
YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE DRIVER IS YOU MAKE CONTACT WITH THE DRIVER.
THAT'S A HUMAN TO HUMAN RESPONSE AND THEN YOU CROSS HALF OF IT.
NOBODY'S GOING TO WALK ACROSS THAT THING.
AND JUST WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THE DRIVER IS STOPPING.
THAT DOESN'T WORK. SO THE ROUNDABOUT WORKS WELL AS A CYCLIST.
THEN AFTER WE DO THAT, THEN WE GO UP AND WE DO THE [INAUDIBLE].
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
MY NAME IS JOE WHITTAKER. I'M A D1 RESIDENT.
I'M A FREQUENT USER OF THE INTERSECTION AT QUESTION, SOMETIMES BY BIKE WITH MY SMALL CHILD ON THE BACK, FREQUENTLY BY CAR AND FREQUENTLY ON MY SKATEBOARD, AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN AND RUNNING.
I COME TO YOU TODAY TO NOT MAKE A BETTER POINT THAN HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE HERE TODAY.
BUT JUST TO SAY I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND COUNCIL.
I'M FOR BETTER THROUGHPUT, I'M FOR BETTER SAFETY AND FRANKLY, A BETTER APPEARANCE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED TODAY.
BUT THE HARDSCAPE AND LANDSCAPE COMBINATION IS VERY ATTRACTIVE.
SO WE'D LIKE TO COMMEND THAT AS WELL.
I'M ALSO FOR A REPRIORITIZATION TOWARDS PEDESTRIANS AND ACTIVE TRANSPORT CYCLISTS AND THEIR SAFETY.
PLEASE VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
SPEAKERS. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND JUST EXPRESSING EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID TONIGHT.
I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT WE'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH THESE REASONABLY QUICKLY.
SOME OF THEM ARE BASED ON WHAT YOUR COMMENTS WERE, SO BEAR WITH ME.
I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY, MR. FRANK, THAT THE SIGNAL OPTION WAS ALREADY IN PLAN IN PLACE FOR US TO IMPROVE AT THIS INTERSECTION BEFORE THE TRAFFIC EMERGENCY.
AND SO THEN HOW DID THE ROUNDABOUT COME INTO PLAY? AS PART OF OUR STANDARDS WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN OUR STANDARDS, WE REQUIRE INTERSECTION CONTROL EVALUATIONS.
IN THIS CASE, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT OPTIONS WERE AVAILABLE TO MEET THE OBJECTIVES OF OUR PROJECT, WHICH WERE AGAIN TO IMPROVE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USES ALONG THE COASTLINE AND IN THAT INTERSECTION, AS WELL AS SLOWING DOWN SPEEDS WHICH ARE ALL INCLUDED IN OUR MOBILITY ELEMENT.
THE ROUNDABOUT WAS THEN AN OBVIOUS OPTION.
SO THAT'S HOW IT CAME TO BE WHY WE STUDIED THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION.
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COMMISSION. BUT AS ONE OF THE MAIN ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE ALSO INITIATED THIS PROJECT IS THE ACTUAL ACCESS ALONG THE WEST SIDE, THE VERY POPULAR WEST SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION ALONG THE COASTLINE.THERE IS NO ACCESSIBLE RAMPS TO GET THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, RIGHT? YEAH, I'M VERY FAMILIAR, THIS BEING IN MY DISTRICT.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, IT SOUNDED LIKE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SPEEDS AND COLLISIONS AND THE SURVIVABILITY BECAUSE VEHICLES HAVE TO SLOW TO I DON'T THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THIS, BUT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT BECAUSE VEHICLES HAVE TO SLOW TO 15, 20 MILES AN HOUR GOING THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT, YOUR INCREASE OF SURVIVABILITY IS HIGHER.
OKAY. AND THE WAY THAT WAS PRESENTED, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT OUT THERE.
UM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT FOOT TRAFFIC AT THE NORTHBOUND ROUNDABOUT NORTH OF ARMY NAVY VERSUS WHAT WE OBSERVED, WHAT YOUR DATA COLLECTED FOOT TRAFFIC AT TAMARACK AND CARLSBAD, WHICH IS THE 101.
LET'S BE HONEST, IT'S A HIGHWAY.
SO VERSUS THE FOOT TRAFFIC AT BIRDROCK.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE AN OBSERVATION ABOUT THAT, AND I HAVE A QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE DATA THAT SAYS HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY PEDESTRIANS CROSS ARE USING THE ROUNDABOUTS THERE? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE A SERIES.
NO, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT SPECIFIC DATA FOR THE BIRDROCK ROUNDABOUTS.
BUT AS YOU MENTIONED, IT IS A VERY POPULAR PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR.
FOR THE SIMPLE REASON WE WILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAN BOTH SIDES OF THAT STREET BECAUSE THERE ARE THERE ARE SHOPS WHERE PEOPLE GO IN AND OUT.
RIGHT? SO I JUST SEE THAT AS VERY DIFFERENT.
SO WILL YOU PLEASE SHARE THAT WITH US? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND WE DO HAVE OUR CONSULTANTS WITH US TODAY WOOD ROGERS.
SO I WILL ASK THEM TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE SPECIFIC TRAFFIC DATA.
AND SO MELISSA GOMEZ [INUADIBLE].
WHILE SHE'S COMING UP, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK ANOTHER ONE.
IT WAS NOT. IT IS NOT A CONCURRENT PROJECT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.
AND WHILE WE'RE JUST WAITING, MISS WRIGHT MADE A POINT ABOUT SMART TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CONTROL THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT TAMARACK AND 101 REMOTELY? WE DO HAVE COMMUNICATIONS TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, BUT AGAIN, THE SMART COMMUNICATIONS AT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL DOESN'T ADDRESS MANY OF THE OBJECTIVES OF OUR PROJECT, WHICH WE HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR PRESENTATION.
SO WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE COMMUNICATIONS TO THAT.
AND SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE FOR DIFFERENT TIMING PLANS.
AND IF WE WANTED TO COORDINATE IN ANY WAY WITH THE ADJACENT TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
SO TO THE NORTH WE HAVE ONE AT PINE AVENUE, WHICH IS QUITE A DIFFERENCE.
WE DO HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION.
AND THEN WHAT IS THE COST ANALYSIS WITH THE LIGHT FIXTURES VERSUS THE ROUNDABOUT? WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THEY? HOW MUCH DO THEY COST? RIGHT. SO WE ACTUALLY DID COMPLETE A COST ANALYSIS AS PART OF OUR INTERSECTION CONTROL EVALUATION.
AND SO THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THE SAME.
THE ROUNDABOUT IS ACTUALLY $500,000 LESS EXPENSIVE.
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EMISSIONS OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE SAFETY AND OF COURSE, AS WE MENTIONED, THE CONSTRUCTION COST.SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE OTHER COSTS INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE THE CHANGE IN DELAY BETWEEN THE OPTIONS, THE ROUNDABOUT REALLY COMES OUT TO BE LESS COSTLY AND THE BENEFIT TO COST RATIO IS MUCH HIGHER WITH THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION.
AND DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE OCCURRED IN THAT INTERSECTION? SOMEONE ELSE, MR. JAMES, I BELIEVE, HAD ASKED THAT QUESTION.
WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, YES.
AGAIN WE'LL I THINK OUR CONSULTANT IS IT WAS A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS OR COLLISIONS.
AND WAS THAT ALL INCLUSIVE OR WERE YOU LOOKING OKAY? YEAH, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A RAW NUMBER.
YEAH. SO THIS IS MARIO, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
NICE TO MEET YOU. HI MARIO TAMBELLINI WITH WOOD ROGERS.
SO THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER OF PEDESTRIANS CROSSING TAMARACK AVENUE UNDER EXISTING CONDITIONS, THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARACK AVENUE INTERSECTION SPECIFICALLY. SO BASED ON OUR LATEST COUNTS, WHICH WERE FROM A SATURDAY IN JUNE OF 2022, SO LAST YEAR, THERE WERE DURING THE PEAK AFTERNOON HOUR ON A SATURDAY IN JUNE, 200 PEDESTRIANS APPROXIMATELY ON THE NORTH LEG.
70 PEDESTRIANS ON THE EAST LEG, ONLY ONE ON THE SOUTH LEG WHERE THERE'S NO CROSSWALK TODAY, AND APPROXIMATELY 30 ON THE WEST LEG, WHICH IS THE BEACH PARKING LOT SIDE.
OKAY. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT DID WE STUDY PEDESTRIANS IN THE NORTH ROUNDABOUT, NORTH OF ARMY NAVY ACADEMY? SO THAT WASN'T PART OF THE STUDY WE DID.
WE OUR DATA ONLY APPLIES TO THE TAMARACK AREA.
OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING THE CITY HAS RELATIVE TO THAT THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE? I CAN SAY THAT WE DID LOOK AT THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC COUNTS AT STATE STREET, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT PEDESTRIAN COUNT INFORMATION FOR YOU TODAY.
BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT INFORMATION.
OKAY. AND THEN I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE FROM 2022 CRASH DATA SUMMARY.
WE HAVE IT BY SEVERITY AND TYPE.
FOUR OF THOSE WERE OTHER VISIBLE INJURY.
FIVE HAD COMPLAINT OF PAIN AND TWO WERE PROPERTY DAMAGE ONLY.
SORRY. IS THAT TOO MUCH INFORMATION? THAT'S OKAY. NO, I FEEL LIKE I REMEMBER SEEING THAT NOW.
OKAY. I HAVE BEEN EXTENSIVELY BRIEFED ON THIS.
IT'S LIKE I DREAM ABOUT THIS, AND SOMETIMES IT'S A NIGHTMARE, SO NO, I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF GET THAT IDEA BECAUSE WE SAW THE DATA ABOUT THE NORTH SIDE, WHAT WAS PRESENTED BY OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT THE NORTH SIDE ROUNDABOUT.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE HEARING.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HEAR WE ALL READ THE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT I WANTED TO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF THAT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MAYBE WHAT THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN WAS.
THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY.
WELL, I CAN TELL YOU OUR FABULOUS COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DID EXTENSIVE PUBLIC OUTREACH FOR THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS OUR PROJECTS TO THE SOUTH. AND I WOULD SAY THE NUMBER ONE COMMENT WE GOT ON THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE PROJECTS TO THE SOUTH, ARE TO MAKE IT SLOWER AND SAFER FOR ALL OF THE USERS AND TO INCREASE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USERS, WHICH INCLUDE BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
SO THAT WAS THE MOST FREQUENT COMMENT WE GET.
I MEAN, I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
SLOW DOWN. SLOW DOWN ON TAMARACK.
SLOW DOWN. I JUST LIKE TO ASK NOW IF WE COULD HAVE CHIEF CALDERWOOD MAYBE, UM.
I JUST. I KNOW IT'S LIKE MAGIC.
THIS IS OUR FIRE CHIEF, CHIEF CALDERWOOD.
SO HELP ME. HELP ME HELP THEM.
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EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE HEARING.ABSOLUTELY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
MAYOR PRO TEM, COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MIKE CALDERWOOD, FIRE CHIEF, CARLSBAD.
SO THE ROUNDABOUT ITSELF, I DON'T BELIEVE, POSES ANY SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH TOM FRANK AND HIS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE IMPACTS OF THE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS THAT THE ROUNDABOUT HAS COMPARED TO THE INTERSECTION THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MANEUVER AROUND THAT ROUNDABOUT SAFELY, WHICH THEY HAVE MADE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO DO.
AND IT EVEN HAS WHAT'S CALLED A TRUCK APRON SO WE CAN MOUNT OR DRIVE OVER THE TOP OF IT.
I DID WANT TO ADDRESS, AS PART OF YOUR QUESTION IN A WAY THAT ADDRESSES A QUESTION BY ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT OF ABOUT US BEING ABLE TO, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT WITH TRAFFIC BEING SHRUNK DOWN TO ONE LANE VERSUS TWO LANES.
MR. FRANK AND I HAVE SPOKEN AT LENGTH ABOUT THAT.
AND WHILE IT IS ONE LANE AS YOU ENTER AND EXIT THAT THAT ROUNDABOUT, IT'S NOT JUST THE LANE ITSELF THAT THAT CREATES THE SPACE ON THE ASPHALT.
THERE IS PAINT ON THE GROUND THAT IS WIDER THAN THE LANE ITSELF.
AND ISN'T IT GREAT THAT WE HAVE FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE ON THE BEACH? NO. NUMBER SEVEN SORRY, ONES RIGHT HERE CLOSE BY AS WELL.
WE GET TO HEAR THEM EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT.
I APPRECIATE IT. AND THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I'LL HAVE COMMENTS AT THE END.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MISS BHAT-PATEL? YES. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE SPEAKERS.
I KNOW IT'S RELATIVELY LATE, SO THANKS FOR STICKING AROUND.
JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THIS COMES OUT OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED.
I'LL JUST INITIALLY FOLLOW UP WITH A QUESTION AROUND THE FIRE TRUCKS GOING THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUTS.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ONLY SOMETHING THAT A FIRE TRUCK CAN DO.
IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT A NORMAL VEHICLE WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST DRIVE OVER.
I WOULD HOPE THAT THE ONLY VEHICLE THAT WOULD DRIVE OVER THAT WOULD BE THE FIRE TRUCK.
BUT AS FAR AS THE ABILITY FOR IT TO BE DONE, I'LL DEFER TO TOM FRANK.
SO THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE ALSO DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE OTHER RATHER LARGE TRUCKS.
SO THE CALIFORNIA LEGAL LIMIT IS ABOUT THEY CALL IT A WHEELBASE LIKE THE WHEELBASE LENGTH, AND IT'S ABOUT A 65 FOOT LONG TRUCK. AND IF YOU WANT TO VISUALIZE IT, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A FURNITURE MOVING TRUCK.
AND SO WE DO DESIGN OUR ROUNDABOUTS TO FACILITATE THOSE LARGE VEHICLES CROSSING OVER IT.
AND THEY DO UTILIZE THE TRUCK APRON, THE TRUCK APRON.
AS YOU SEE, IT'S TYPICALLY ABOUT 3 OR 4IN HIGHER THAN THE SURROUNDING PAVEMENT.
SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT DISSUADES OTHER VEHICLES FROM USING THAT TRUCK APRON.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU GET THE HORIZONTAL DEFLECTION, WHICH WHICH SLOWS DOWN MOST TRAFFIC.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE AND I KNOW THIS QUESTION WAS ASKED, BUT JUST TO CONFIRM BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED PRIOR TO THIS PRESENTATION AS WELL, AND WE HEARD THIS FROM SOME SPEAKERS AS WELL, THAT WHEN WE REDUCE SPEEDS, THERE'S A GREATER LIKELIHOOD OF SURVIVING IF SOMEBODY IS STRUCK IN A COLLISION.
OKAY. AND THEN ONE OF THE SPEAKERS HAD BROUGHT UP, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY UTILIZE OUR EDUCATION CAMPAIGN TO EDUCATE FOLKS ON PROPER USE OF A ROUNDABOUT WHERE IT COULD INCLUDE AN INDICATOR ON THE YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE TO YIELD? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS OR OTHER ROUNDABOUTS? AND IF SO, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD UTILIZE AS WELL? THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION OUT THERE REGARDING ROUNDABOUTS.
ONE THING I'VE NOTICED, AND WHILE WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM.
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SO IF YOU'RE GOING LEFT WHEN YOU'RE APPROACHING A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT, USE THE LEFT HAND TURN SIGNAL.IT REALLY HELPS THE OTHER USERS OF THE ROUNDABOUT KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND IT REALLY HELPS THEM LESS OR PROVIDES LESS FRUSTRATION IN A ROUNDABOUT. OKAY.
THANK YOU. AND A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AROUND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED QUITE A BIT AND SOMETHING AROUND.
HOW DO WE INDICATE THAT THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE CROSSING? IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WOULD BE, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF BLINKING LIGHTS OR SOMETHING TO INDICATE THAT THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN THAT'S WALKING THROUGH THAT.
IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER WHEN WE BRING IT FROM THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN TO FINAL DESIGN.
AT STATE STREET, WE DON'T HAVE THE RAPID FLASH BEACONS AT MANY ROUNDABOUTS ARE NOT NECESSARY WHERE YOU REALLY GET THE SAFER PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AS YOU SAW IN THE BIRDROCK VIDEOS AND YOU ACTUALLY CAN EXPERIENCE THAT.
AND I WOULD ADVISE AND PEOPLE DON'T FEEL INHERENTLY SAFE TO JUMP OUT IN FRONT OF A MOVING CAR.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU'RE INDICATING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE CROSSING IN THE CROSSWALK AND YOU GET THAT EYE CONTACT, THE DRIVER WILL SEE YOU AND SLOW DOWN AND GIVE THE PEDESTRIAN YIELD TO THE PEDESTRIAN.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY CROSS THAT 12 TO 20 FOOT DISTANCE.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO MUCH SAFER.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'LL CONSIDER THE ADDITIONAL RAPID FLASH BEACONS.
BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN OUR PLAN.
I KNOW THAT ON THE BOULEVARD, WHETHER I'VE WALKED IT, DRIVEN IT, I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A MORE HELPFUL WAY TO KNOW THAT SOMEBODY IS CROSSING, BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T SEE SOMEBODY CROSSING.
RIGHT. AND SO I THINK JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
THE OTHER PIECE THAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT, I KNOW FOLKS MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REDUCING IT DOWN FROM A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF LANES DOWN TO THIS CONFIGURATION THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF DATA THAT SHOWS CONGESTION.
AND I THINK THERE WAS LIKE GRIDLOCK THAT WAS MENTIONED.
DOES THAT TEND TO HAPPEN WITH AREAS THAT HAVE ROUNDABOUTS OR DO WE SEE THAT? AND MAYBE MAYBE THIS ISN'T A GREAT COMPARISON, BUT DOES THAT HAPPEN MORE FREQUENTLY WHEN WE DO HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL VERSUS A ROUNDABOUT? I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR IF YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
YEAH, WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
AND WHAT I SAW AND IT WAS REPLICATED NOT JUST IN OUR CITY BUT OTHER COASTAL CITIES, IS THAT THE INTERSECTIONS WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS WAS WHERE THE CONGESTION WAS.
AND SO AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
AND SO WHENEVER I CAN TELL YOU THE TIMES AND WE ALL LIVE IT SATURDAY MORNINGS IN THE SUMMER LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, SOUTHBOUND COMING FROM ORANGE COUNTY, IT'S GOING TO BE GRIDLOCK AND WE'RE GOING TO GET PRETTY MUCH PEAK TRAFFIC VOLUMES GOING DOWN OUR CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, THE OLD PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH BECAUSE I-5 GETS GRIDLOCKED.
THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE COMMENTS.
THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I ACTUALLY DO HAVE ONE MORE.
I JUST SAW IT HIDING UNDER THE OTHER ONES.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW HIGH PEDESTRIAN AREAS LIKE THE BEACH AND GOING THERE DOESN'T.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN SURFING OVER THERE, BUT.
I HAVE. YEAH. SO HERE'S A GRAPHIC THAT WE PULLED TOGETHER THAT SHOWS AN AUTOMATION OF THE ROUNDABOUT WORKING. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THIS PEDESTRIAN IN GREEN, ACTUALLY.
AND THEN YOU JUST SEE A BICYCLIST THAT TOOK INTO THAT SHARED PATHWAY RIGHT BEHIND HIM.
HE'S OF COURSE, GOING SLOW BECAUSE IT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND HERE'S HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE HAVE 2 TO 4,000 PEDESTRIANS WALKING ALONG THIS COASTLINE AND THIS ALIGNMENT.
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AND WHAT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS WITH THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION, WHEN THEY'RE CROSSING ALL OF THE OTHER TRAFFIC MOTIONS CONTINUE.AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE EFFICIENCY OF THE SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT EXCELS.
LIKE EVERYTHING'S CONTINUING TO OPERATE.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN YOU HEAR YOU SEE PEOPLE.
AND IT'S NOT LIKE INHERENTLY NATURAL TO THINK LIKE IF YOU'RE TAKING FIVE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ADD TWO MORE IN THE NORTHBOUND.
SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SEVEN VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TRAFFIC LANES AT THE INTERSECTION.
AND HOW CAN POSSIBLY ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION BE GREATER CAPACITY THAN THE FIVE LANES? EXCUSE ME? IT'S NOT SEVEN OR NO, IT IS SEVEN.
AND HOPEFULLY THE OTHER THING IS WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE VERY THICK TRAFFIC STUDY WHICH WAS MENTIONED, IT IS RATHER THICK, BUT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPTION WOULD ACTUALLY CREATE ADDITIONAL DELAY BEYOND WHAT IS EXPERIENCED TODAY.
SO IF WE GO WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPTION, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN PUSH BUTTONS FOR THE THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION AS WELL AS THE WESTERN SIDE.
SO THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE ADDITIONAL DELAY THAT'S NOT EXPERIENCED TODAY.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OPTIONS, THE ROUNDABOUT WITH THE HEAVY TRAFFIC VOLUME ON THE WEST SIDE WITH CONTINUOUS VEHICLE VOLUMES TRAVELING THROUGH THAT COMPARED TO THE INCREASED CONGESTION WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPTION, IT'S GOING TO BE IT WOULD BE A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, I PROMISE.
MS. ACOSTA. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. MS. LUNA, QUICK QUESTION.
THIS WENT TO TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY TWICE.
FIRST TIME THEY MARINATED ON IT WEREN'T SURE.
HELP ME IF THIS IS MY RECOLLECTION.
AND THEN SECOND TIME IT CAME OUT AS A UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT.
SO I TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP OF THAT.
SO THEN THEY ELECTED TO ACTUALLY BRING IT BACK.
THEY DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL THE FIRST TIME AND THEY THEY DID REALIZE THAT THEY ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO BRING TO YOU RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THEY AGENDISE IT AGAIN.
THE SECOND TIME THEY REVIEWED IT.
THEY DID HAVE A UNANIMOUS DECISION.
THANK YOU. IN SUPPORT OF THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? MS. BHAT-PATEL. OKAY.
THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE COMMUNITY FOR WRITING IN AND SHOWING UP TODAY.
I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND I KNOW TO OUR STAFF FOR ALL THE ROBUST COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND OUTREACH . WE RECEIVED YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE WE HAD SOME FOLKS JUST LIKE TODAY, WE HAD SOME FOLKS WHO ARE VERY MUCH FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, OTHERS THAT BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, JUST A TRAFFIC SIGNAL LIKE IT IS TODAY.
JUST BASED ON THE DATA AND WHAT I'VE SEEN AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND ESPECIALLY FROM THOSE THAT UTILIZE DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSIT BESIDES JUST A CAR, TO ME, THE ROUNDABOUT SOUNDS LIKE THE BEST OPTION BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND DATA PRESENTED TO US.
THE BIGGEST REASON BEING THE SAFETY OF ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAVELING THERE, NOT JUST THE CARS.
RIGHT? IT'S ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT ARE RECREATING THAT ARE WALKING, THAT ARE BIKING.
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AND AS WE'VE SEEN, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR TRAFFIC EMERGENCY AND THE EDUCATION ENGINEERING ENFORCEMENT THAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE HAD A GREAT AND ROBUST COMMUNICATION.AND I THINK THAT'S THE PART, AS A MOM, AS SOMEBODY WHO DOES DRIVE, WALK, BIKE, I DO ALL OF THOSE.
I ACTUALLY WALK FROM SOUTH CARLSBAD UP TO NORTH CARLSBAD SOMETIMES WITH MY FAMILY.
SO I'M VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE DIFFERENT AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE ACROSS OUR COAST.
I HEARD FROM SOME FOLKS PERSONAL STORIES ABOUT HOW PEOPLE HAVE JUST RAN RED LIGHTS, AND I SEE THAT ON A DAILY BASIS JUST WALKING AROUND BECAUSE PEOPLE DO THAT.
I THINK DEFINITELY FROM A MOBILITY STANDPOINT, WHETHER JUST BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONSTANT FLOW OF TRAFFIC, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN THE OTHER OTHER PIECE IS, AGAIN, THAT THIS FROM A SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN.
LOOKING AT THAT, TOO, I KNOW YOU ALL HAD MENTIONED THAT HERE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT ELEMENT ADDED ON FROM THE PIECE OF JUST REDUCING OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AGAIN, INCREASING THOSE MULTIMODAL LEVELS OF TRANSIT AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT FOLKS ACROSS OUR CITY HAVE DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSIT THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENJOY IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY WE CALL HOME.
SO THAT WOULD BE IT. AND THANKS AGAIN TO THOSE THAT WERE ABLE TO JOIN US TODAY.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN THE LINE.
I'VE SAID THAT MANY TIMES AND I'VE VOTED FOR OTHER ROUNDABOUTS.
BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR ABOUT WHAT IF WE PUT THIS IN HERE AND IT IT CAUSES MORE PROBLEMS AND IS NOT AS GOOD AS AS WE HOPE THAT IT IS.
I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE I MAKE MY FINAL COMMENTS.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M IN THAT 15% AND WE ROCK.
I AM A I WALK THAT PROBABLY FIVE TIMES A WEEK.
I USED TO LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE.
I'M INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED FOR THEIR SAFETY.
I USUALLY SIDE ON WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
SHE IS AN ENGINEER AND THE GENTLEMAN'S WIFE ALBEIT AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER ENGINEER.
THE OTHER FOLKS I THINK, DID GREAT DATA MINING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ARE NECESSARILY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE GREAT DATA MINERS.
AND I SUPPORT ROUNDABOUTS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE, HOWEVER IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE SOME REMEDIES IF IT'S PUT IN AND IT DOESN'T PAN OUT. I LIKE A BETA TEST.
THAT WOULD BE MY OPTION THREE PREFERENCE IS LET'S SEE IF ALL THESE ALL THESE NAYSAYERS, IT'S TRUE.
OR CONVERSELY, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE, IF THEY ACTUALLY SEE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE BE BETTER.
BUT NORMALLY IN THESE TYPE OF SITUATIONS, I WILL GO AHEAD AND SIDE WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
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BUT AS LONG AS I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME REMEDIAL ACTION OUT THERE, IF THIS DOES NOT WORK, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT THIS IS IT.I MEAN, WE HAVE INTERSECTIONS DOWN THE REST OF THE COAST, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROUNDABOUT AND THEN YOU COME UP TO AN INTERSECTION AND THEN YOU COME UP INTO AN INTERSECTION AND YOU COME UP INTO AN INTERSECTION.
I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF IT WAS ALL ROUNDABOUTS DOWN THROUGH OUR CITY.
I'VE READ THE EMAILS AND LISTENED TO PEOPLE TALK EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY.
I THINK THIS CONVERSATION BRIEFLY SURPASSED THE CONVERSATION OF HOMELESSNESS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DECIDE TODAY, HALF THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE PLEASED.
HALF THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED.
IT'S NO SECRET THAT I'M VERY CRITICAL OF ROUNDABOUTS.
BUT YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE VERY GOOD.
AND THE ARGUMENTS FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WERE VERY GOOD.
AND YOU KIND OF BROUGHT ME UP TO THIS 50/50 MARK.
BUT I I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT MISS LUNA WAS JUST SAYING.
BUT THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, I WROTE DOWN JUST SOME NOTES WE'RE GOING TO HIT TOURISTS, PEDESTRIANS, CARS, BIKES, EBIKES, SKATEBOARDS, PEOPLE LOST, PEOPLE LOOKING AT THE FOLKS WALKING AROUND IN THEIR SWIMSUITS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY DISTRACTING.
AND I JUST CAN'T BRING MYSELF TO TO TO SUPPORTING IT.
I WILL TELL YOU, I'M VERY CLOSE TO 50/50, BUT TONIGHT I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS.
SO, MISS BURKHOLDER, ARE YOU READY? OKAY. WELL, I WANTED TO SORT OF GET A FEEL FROM EVERYBODY ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE THINKING WITH THIS, BECAUSE I DO HAVE THE FEELING THAT IT'S A 50/50 THING AND IT'S BEEN PREVALENT IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT IT'S A 50/50 THING.
AND I WANT TO ECHO THOSE COMMENTS.
I WAS KIND OF A YES BUT PERSON TOO.
I WISH THAT THE OPTION NUMBER THREE WAS THAT BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS AREN'T GOING CONCURRENTLY, WE COULD DETERMINE AND EVALUATE THE THREE OTHER ROUNDABOUTS SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT TO SEE IF THEY'RE A DISASTER.
MR. ACOSTA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? THANK YOU. I THINK I WAS SIMILAR TO YOU.
I'M AT 50%, BUT RATHER THAN YOU, MAYOR, I WENT FROM SUPER PRO ROUNDABOUT TO I'M CONCERNED VERSUS NOT REALLY FOR ROUNDABOUTS, BUT MAYBE CONVINCED.
SO I THINK THE THE CONCERN WITH THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IS THAT THE CONGESTION AND CONNECTION OF ALL THOSE THOSE FOLKS AT ONCE ON BIKES AND AS YOU SAID, THE LOOKY LOOS AND THE DRIVERS AND AND THE PEOPLE LUGGING THEIR BEACH CHAIRS ACROSS THE STREET AND THEIR CAMPING GEAR AND THEIR WAGONS AND THINGS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE I KNOW WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGE.
THIS INTERSECTION IS NOT GREAT AS IT IS.
SO SINCE WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT, I'M WONDERING AS WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, HOW PEOPLE ARE FEELING ABOUT THE THE OPTION TWO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE A HYBRID.
I HEARD COUNCILMEMBER LUNA MENTIONED SOME KIND OF PILOT, IF THAT'S EVEN A POTENTIAL TO ASK STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SOME KIND OF TEMPORARY KIND OF PILOT PROGRAM.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.
AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO TO TOM.
TOM, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ANY INSTANCES IN WHICH THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO A PILOT ROUNDABOUT THAT'S SAFE? I AM FAMILIAR WITH PILOT ROUNDABOUT PROJECTS AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO COUNCIL IS WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A ROUNDABOUT THAT'S WELL INTO DESIGN.
WE'RE AT THE 90% DESIGN LEVEL AT THE TERRAMAR IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, SO THAT ROUNDABOUT IS PLANNED FOR CANNON ROAD AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD. THAT ROUNDABOUT IS WELL AHEAD OF THIS ROUNDABOUT, SO IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED FIRST.
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GRANTED, THERE'S NOT A BEACH ACCESS JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT LOCATION, BUT THERE IS ONE NEARBY AT TERRAMAR.SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS TO RECONSIDER WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE.
AND THEN ALSO WE CAN EVALUATE HOW THAT CANNON ROAD ROUNDABOUT IS PERFORMING.
AND IF IT'S PERFORMING WELL AND YOU DO SELECT THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION, THEN WE'RE OKAY.
IF WE IF WE NOTICE SOME ISSUES OR SOME CONCERNS, WE CAN REEVALUATE AND ASSESS WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE AND THEN BRING BACK THE ISSUES WE'RE EXPERIENCING AT CANNON ROAD TO COUNCIL, SPECIFICALLY AT TAMARACK.
AND WE COULD ADDRESS WHAT THE OPTIONS LOOK OR WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, WHAT THE OPTIONS LOOK LIKE, AND WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF AN INTERIM TYPE OF ROUNDABOUT, THAT IT REALLY DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET THE BENEFITS OF A MODERN DAY ROUNDABOUT. WHAT YOU GET IS DELINEATION.
YOU DON'T GET PEOPLE TRULY SLOWING DOWN.
WE HAVE WE'VE SEEN SOME HAPHAZARD INSTALLATIONS OF OF TEMPORARY TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T EVEN CALL THEM ROUNDABOUTS BECAUSE IT'S AN INSULT.
AND I DIDN'T WANT TO MENTION THE LOCATIONS, BUT WE HEAR FROM THEM FROM THE PUBLIC.
SO I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND AGAINST AN INTERIM ROUNDABOUT CONDITION, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE LOOK AT HOW THE CANNON ROAD ROUNDABOUT IS PERFORMING AND THEN ADJUST BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING AT THE CANNON ROAD.
MS. BHAT-PATEL. YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR COUNCIL SOUNDS TORN ON THIS.
AND JUST BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU JUST MADE, MR. FRANK, IN TERMS OF AND I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER LUNA, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A WAY AND COUNCILMEMBER BURKHOLDER, YOU ALSO MENTIONED IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT SOME DATA, HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN MAKE THAT DECISION, WHETHER OR NOT WE'D WANT TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THAT.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPTION.
AND SO IF I MAKE THAT MOTION TO.
OKAY, I'M MAKING THE MOTION AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY ADD.
AND THOSE THAT SECOND FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID.
A THIRD OPTION OF A YES BUT OPTION.
SO AS LONG AS WE'RE MAKING THAT, I STILL AM A NO ON THIS.
BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M STANDING FOR THE FOR YOUR MOTION.
SO ARE YOU STILL SECONDING OR ARE YOU RESCINDING YOUR SECOND? OKAY. OTHER COMMENTS ON POSTPONING THE I'M ASSUMING WITH THE THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE THIS DECISION UNTIL CANNON PROVES ITSELF.
IS THAT CORRECT? TELL ME AGAIN WHAT YOUR MOTION? NO. THE MOTION WAS TO MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR OPTION ONE WITH CONSIDERATION OF THE STAFF COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY CONSIDER THE DATA OF ANY OF THE ROUNDABOUTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY SOUTH OF THAT LOCATION.
AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY DEVIATIONS, ANY NEGATIVE DEVIATIONS FROM WHAT WE WOULD PLAN, THEN WE WOULD THEY WOULD COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
ARE WE AT DISCUSSION, CORRECT? YES, WE ARE. I WOULD I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH WHICH WASN'T PRESENTED WAS AN OPTION THREE AND MAYBE KICK THIS DOWN A FEW MONTHS TILL THE OTHER ROUNDABOUT IS CONSTRUCTED.
ARE THERE FUNDING RAMIFICATIONS HERE? YES. THIS THIS PROJECT IS TIED TO A GRANT AND THE TIMING WOULDN'T WORK OUT FOR US TO HOLD OFF FOR THAT LONG.
SO I ALSO WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH THE MOTION IN FRONT OF YOU, IF YOU COULD JUST CLARIFY THE ROUNDABOUT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS IT CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND CANNON ROAD? YEAH. SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT THAT FLEXIBILITY WITH OUR SCHEDULES.
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OKAY. SO OR WE COULD REVERSE IT AND SUPPORT OPTION TWO AND THEN YOU COULD MODIFY IT IF WE SEE THAT THE CANNON. NO, NO.AND IF YOU DID NOT LIKE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE TAMARACK INTERSECTION, WHICH WE BUILT BECAUSE OF DELAY, OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU DON'T FEEL YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SAFETY ISSUES OR BENEFITS AND THE CONGESTION ISSUES, THEN YOU'D NEED TO WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT AS A SEPARATE CAPITAL PROJECT TO CONVERT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO A ROUNDABOUT, WHICH WOULD BE JUST BEAR WITH ME.
WHAT ARE OUR REMEDIES? SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO THE REMEDIES WOULD BE WE WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S ISSUES WHICH WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
WE WOULD THEN BRING BACK TO COUNCIL OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
AT THAT POINT WE'D BE FURTHER ALONG IN THE DESIGN, POSSIBLY EVEN IN THE PERMITTING STAGE.
BUT ONE OF THE OPTIONS COULD BE WE'RE HALTING AND SUGGESTING THAT WE LOOK AT EITHER A DIFFERENT DESIGN FOR THE ROUNDABOUT OR POSSIBLY THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPTION.
OKAY. I COULD I COULD SUPPORT THAT.
AND MR. FRANK, REAL QUICK, HOW MUCH IS THE GRANT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? SIR IT'S $1 MILLION.
OKAY. IT'S THROUGH SANDAG ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION GRANT.
THANK YOU. JUST A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, PERHAPS THAT WE INCLUDE THAT IF THIS BODY DECIDES THE BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE RECEIVE, THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO BE A ROUNDABOUT THAT CAN BE IN THE WORDING OF THE MOTION OR SOMETHING, I'M TRYING.
I'M TRYING TO PROTECT FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CROSSING AT THIS INTERSECTION.
AND I'M VERY SURELY WORRIED ABOUT THIS PROJECT BEING A ROUNDABOUT AND THAT INTERSECTION.
THE BEHAVIOR OF THE ROUNDABOUT IS NEVER GOING TO BE THE PROBLEM.
IT'S THE BEHAVIOR OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UTILIZING IT THAT GIVE ME GRAVE CONCERN.
WHAT WAS YOUR AMENDMENT? THAT WE HAVE THE GUARANTEE.
IF THE DATA DOESN'T SUPPORT THE SAFETY OF THE OTHER ROUNDABOUTS, THEN WE ARE PULLING THAT PROJECT.
WE WILL WE WILL NOT BUILD A ROUNDABOUT AT TAMARACK AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
I BELIEVE THAT'S IN THE MOTION THAT WE ALREADY INCLUDED.
YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING.
MAYBE. MAYBE WE MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN RESTATE JUST FOR CLARITY.
YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD ALSO HAVE TO RESTATE IN A WAY THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE BINDING A FUTURE COUNCIL TO A DECISION, BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING HAPPENING TWO YEARS FROM NOW, SO WHAT I WAS, AS YOU WERE TALKING, OPTION ONE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE OPTIONS ONCE DATA FROM ROUNDABOUT AT CANNON AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD IS KNOWN TO INCLUDE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ALTERNATIVE.
MAY YOU REPEAT THAT? SO OPTION.
THAT'S OKAY. OPTION ONE WITH OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE OPTIONS ONCE DATA FROM THE ROUNDABOUT AT CARLSBAD AND I'M SORRY CANNON AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD IS KNOWN AND TO INCLUDE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPTION.
RIGHT [INAUDIBLE]. I'M LOST ON THAT LAST PART.
I WAS UNDERSTANDING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER THAT SHE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WHEN THE DATA FROM CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND CANNON ROAD ROUNDABOUT IS KNOWN THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OPTION PRESENTED THAT WOULD INCLUDE CONVERTING TO A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
OKAY. I THINK I'VE GOT A POSSIBLE CLARIFICATION.
SO ONCE THE ROUNDABOUT AT CANNON ROAD AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD IS CONSTRUCTED AND WE HAVE THAT IN OPERATION ONCE IT'S COMPLETED AND WE HAVE AN OPERATION FOR AT LEAST A THREE MONTH PERIOD, WE CAN BRING BACK A REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE PERFORMANCE OF THAT ROUNDABOUT.
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IF THAT TIME WE SEE FATAL FLAWS ESSENTIALLY WHERE WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT PERFORMANCE, WE WILL THEN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AT TAMARACK AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN PURSUE AN OPTION TO STOP DESIGN, STOP THE PROCESS FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT TAMARACK AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND PURSUE ANOTHER OPTION IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
WE'RE GETTING THERE AND I CAN ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MS. ACOSTA? THANK YOU.
I KNOW WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE LANGUAGE HERE, BUT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY, MR. FRANK, WAS ONCE THE THE ROUNDABOUT AT CANNON AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD IS COMPLETED AND IN OPERATION FOR THREE MONTHS. I BELIEVE STAFF WILL BRING BACK TO COUNCIL THE DATA.
AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER TO PROCEED WITH THE ROUNDABOUT.
WE WOULD BRING BACK A REPORT WITH THE DATA AND AN EVALUATION OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
SO IF THERE IS ANY ISSUES LIKE SAFETY ISSUES OR CONGESTION ISSUES, WHICH WE WERE NOT EXPECTING, AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE HEAR YOU THAT THERE'S CONCERN AND WE WOULD THEN REEVALUATE OPTIONS AT WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.
SO THAT'S THE REPORT THAT WE WOULD BRING BACK TO YOU.
OKAY. SO COUNCIL WILL EVALUATE THE OPTIONS AFTER STAFF BRINGS BACK A REPORT AFTER AT LEAST THREE MONTHS OF OPERATION OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT CANNON AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
IF THERE IS ISSUES THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, ARE YOU GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO US OR ARE WE ALL GOING TO FORGET ABOUT BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU? WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK TO YOUR REPORT ON THE PERFORMANCE.
I WOULD I WOULD SAY WE'D WE COULD COMMIT TO BRINGING BACK TO YOUR REPORT FOLLOWING FIVE MONTHS OF THE NOTICE OF COMPLETION FOR BASICALLY THE OPERATION OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT CANNON ROAD AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
THANK YOU. THAT SOUNDS VERY REASONABLE.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN REVISIT IT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO LOOKING AT OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO. THEN WE CAN INCLUDE THAT INTO THE MOTION.
I'LL MAKE ONE. MY LAST COMMENT.
I THINK THAT THE THE DIFFERENCE OF COMPARING CANNON WITH TAMARACK IS APPLES AND ORANGES.
WE DON'T HAVE A BEACH AT CANNON.
WE DON'T HAVE BATHROOMS, WE DON'T HAVE LOWER TAMARACK PARKING LOT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 3 TO 2.
NUMBER 11 BECAUSE WE'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT LATE.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT OFF THE AGENDA.
AND THAT'LL BE HELD ON JULY 25TH INSTEAD OF TONIGHT.
[11. WHAT WORKS CITIES CERTIFICATION FOR PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE –]
AND FINAL ITEM IS NUMBER 12.CITY MANAGER WILL YOU OPEN THAT.
[12. LOCAL CONTROL RESOLUTION – Consider a request from Council Member Burkholder to adopt a resolution expressing support for actions to further strengthen local democracy, authority and control in relation to local zoning and housing issues. (Staff contact: Sheila Cobian, City Manager Department]
YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A LOCAL CONTROL RESOLUTION.
I'LL BE INVITING BROUGHT BY COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR ACTIONS TO FURTHER STRENGTHEN LOCAL DEMOCRACY, AUTHORITY AND CONTROL IN RELATION TO THE LOCAL ZONING AND HOUSING ISSUES.
ASSISTING OR ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IS OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR MR. JASON HABER. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER.
OKAY. IT'S LATE. I HAVE A ONE PAGER AND THEN WE CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION IF YOU WANT.
I'M BRINGING THIS ITEM FORWARD TONIGHT AS AN EDUCATIONAL BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE RECENT LEGISLATION HAS RESCINDED LOCAL CONTROL AROUND DEVELOPMENT, INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE VILLAGE OF BARRIO, WHERE WE SEE PLANS FOR HIGH DENSITY AROUND TRANSIT.
THEY PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS OR ADUS AND LIMIT LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ABILITY TO IMPOSE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS SUCH AS PARKING LOT SIZE REDUCTION AND OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT.
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LOCATED NEAR PUBLIC TRANSIT OR PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.ASSEMBLY BILL 68 AND SENATE BILL 13, PASSED IN 2019, INTRODUCED ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO ADU REGULATIONS BY RELAXING REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO SETBACKS, PARKING IMPACT FEES.
AND SB 330 AS MENTIONED EARLIER, KNOWN AS THE HOUSING CRISIS BILL PASSED IN 2019, STREAMLINES THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND LIMITS CHANGES TO LAND USE ZONING STANDARDS ONCE A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION IS COMPLETE.
SB 9, PASSED IN 21, ALLOWS FOR THE CREATION OF DUPLEXES ON SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND PERMITS LOT SPLITS TO CREATE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON A SINGLE FAMILY LOT.
AND IF WITHIN A HALF MILE OF TRANSIT ELIMINATES PARKING ENTIRELY.
FINALLY, ASSEMBLY BILL 2097, PASSED IN 2022, PROHIBITS A LOCAL AGENCY FROM IMPOSING MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS ON ANY RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT IS LOCATED WITHIN A HALF MILE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND THAT JUST INCLUDED EVERYTHING WEST OF THE FIVE.
OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING QUOTE PRESERVE LOCAL CONTROL.
THE CITY SUPPORTS THE BROADEST AUTHORITY FOR OUR CITIZENS AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE DECISIONS TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SERVICES LOCALLY AS CITIES ARE VOLUNTARILY CREATED BY THE RESIDENTS OF A COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE LOCAL SELF GOVERNMENT AND TO MAKE DECISIONS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL TO BEST MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE CITY OPPOSES PREEMPTION OF LOCAL CONTROL FURTHER, IN 2021, THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM, IT IS STATED THE CITY OF CARLSBAD SUPPORTS MEASURES IN LOCAL LAND USE THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DOCTRINE OF HOME RULE AND THE LOCAL EXERCISE OF POLICE POWERS AND PLANNING AND ZONING PROCESSES.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A COUNCIL, AS POLICY MAKERS, I CAN'T EVEN TALK ANYMORE, MAKE A PUBLIC FACING COMMENT THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROTECTING OUR CITY AND THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR CARLSBAD WITH REGARD TO LOCAL ZONING AND HOUSING ISSUES, NOT SACRAMENTO.
SO THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.
I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.
I CAN SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION WITH THE DELETION OF PARAGRAPH NUMBER THREE.
I THINK IT'S A FISCAL NEGATIVE ON OUR CITY AT THIS POINT.
AND ALSO, WE HAVE $1 MILLION IN UNFUNDED MANDATES, TOO.
THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
SO THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES REPRESENTS ALL THE CITIES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
THERE'S 482 CITIES, AND ITS MISSION IS VERY ALIGNED WITH YOUR RESOLUTION.
THE MISSION SPECIFICALLY IS ONE SENTENCE.
SO THIS ORGANIZATION IS ONE TO WHICH OUR CITY CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS BELONGED FOR A LONG TIME.
AND I'M SO PROUD OF BEING PART OF IT.
SO IN LOOKING CLOSELY AT THIS, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THE RESOLUTION ITSELF DOESN'T SPELL OUT SPECIFIC BILLS BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL WHAT POSITIONS WE TOOK ON CERTAIN THINGS.
ALTHOUGH IN LISTENING TO COUNCILMEMBER BURKHOLDER'S LIST, I WROTE DOWN SEVERAL.
AND I DO RECALL SO MANY OF THESE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WELL INTENTIONED TO ADDRESS THE CRISIS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR STATE, BUT ACTUALLY TOOK LOCAL CONTROL AWAY FROM COMMUNITIES THAT SHOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE OUR LAND USE DECISIONS.
AND IT'S FRUSTRATING TO SEE THE STATE COME IN AND TAKE OVER CITY POWERS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THESE STATEWIDE ISSUES OF STATEWIDE CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THAT IS THE STATE'S MISSION IS TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
BUT BUT TO DO SO IN A WAY THAT TAKES OVER OUR POWERS AND INFRINGES ON OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY IDENTITIES WHEN WE HAVE SUCH A DIVERSE STATE WITH COASTAL CITIES, RURAL CITIES, URBAN, SUBURBAN, BIG, SMALL, ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF CITIES WITH DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES AND DIFFERENT SIZES ALL OVER OUR STATE, WE'RE A VERY DIVERSE, RICHLY DIVERSE STATE.
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AND I'M SO PROUD TO BE IN CALIFORNIA AND TO BE HERE IN CARLSBAD.I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THIS RESOLUTION.
I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE SUPPORTING IT EVEN WITHOUT BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A STATEMENT ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY AND AS THE OTHER MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER, I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT THESE BILLS A LOT, AND ALTHOUGH WE HAVE DIVERSE OPINIONS AND WE DON'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING, I THINK WE AGREE ON THIS THAT THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR CITY FROM THE STATE TAKING OVER OUR POWER AND SPECIFICALLY FROM THE STATE IMPOSING UNFUNDED MANDATES AND I SAW IN THE THE NOTE THAT IT SAID $1 MILLION.
IT'S ACTUALLY ALMOST $1 BILLION.
RIGHT. STATEWIDE THAT THAT THE STATE HAS IMPOSED ON CITIES.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT OURSELVES AGAINST THAT.
SO I DO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION.
YES. I'LL JUST BE SURE I DO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION AS WELL.
AND I KNOW THAT AS THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, I'M SURE YOU'RE DOING THE SAME.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE RESOLUTION.
THANKS. WHEN I SPEAK WITH GROUPS, THEY ALWAYS ASK THE SAME QUESTION WHAT ARE SOME OF THE BIG OBSTACLES YOU SEE IN OUR FUTURE? AND ONE OF THEM IS THAT I SHARE WITH THEM IS THAT THE STATE THINKS THEY'VE DONE SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB RUNNING THE STATE AND NOW THEY WANT TO RUN OUR CITY AS WELL.
I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE SARCASTIC, BUT I FEEL THAT THAT'S TRUE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IF WE COULD PAUSE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? SORRY, STEVE.
I JUST THOUGHT SINCE I'M HERE, I WOULD MAKE A COMMENT AND MAKE THIS AN EVEN LONGER MEETING.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF AN HOA WITH 209 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN SOUTHEAST CARLSBAD.
AND THE EXAMPLE IS THAT IN OUR CCNRS, WE HAVE A VIEW OBSTRUCTION PROVISION THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE OCEAN VIEWS AND LAGOON VIEWS PAID A LOT EXTRA FOR THEIR HOUSE, FOR THEIR VIEWS.
BUT SOME PEOPLE COULD AND I WON'T SAY SPECIFICALLY, BUT HAVE IN SOME CASES APPLIED FOR AN ADU TO BUILD A SECOND STORY ON THEIR HOUSE, WHICH THEN BLOCKS THE VIEW OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE GUARANTEED THE VIEW.
IT'S JUST AS LONG AS THEY INSTALL A BATHROOM AND AN EXTERIOR EXIT, THEY CAN EXPLOIT THAT ADU LAW TO BE ABLE TO PUT AN EXTRA STORY ONTO THEIR HOUSE. SO THIS IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL.
THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN SOME OF OUR HOAS.
SO I SUPPORT I MEAN, I HAVEN'T READ THE THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION.
I JUST WHEN I GOT TO THE MEETING, I SAW IT ON THERE.
SO I THOUGHT I SHOULD COMMENT.
SO I DON'T NECESSARILY ENDORSE THE EXACT LANGUAGE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL SUPPORT IT.
THANKS. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A I HAVE A MOTION OUT THERE.
JUST AMENDING THE DELETION OF PARAGRAPH OR I GUESS NUMBER THREE.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER.
THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE AGENDA.
ANY CLOSING STATEMENTS? WE'LL START WITH YOU, MS. LUNA.
[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
GOOD NIGHT. MISS BURKHOLDER.JUST A QUICK NOTE THAT THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES BOARD MET THE STATEWIDE BOARD WHERE ALMOST 60 PEOPLE, AND WE MET IN NEWPORT BEACH LAST WEEK FOR TWO DAYS AND TALKED ABOUT THESE ISSUES RELATED TO LOCAL CONTROL.
SO I'M VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT AND TO KEEP WORKING HARD TOWARDS THAT.
YES. JUST BRIEFLY WANTED TO REPORT OUT FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] BOARD MEETING THAT I SIT ON THROUGH THE SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THAT WE DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP THE LAUSANNE CORRIDOR.
SO OBVIOUSLY IT WAS CLOSED FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND WE'VE HAD A FEW INTERRUPTIONS THERE.
SO ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT COMMUTE.
IT'S WELCOME NEWS THAT IT'S BACK UP AND RUNNING.
NOTHING. THANK YOU. CITY CLERK NOTHING.
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THANK YOU. ADJOURNED.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.