Aug 16, 2023 Planning Commission Meeting

OKAY. GOOD EVENING.

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WILL COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

BEFORE WE BEGIN, PLANNER LARDY HAS AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

BEFORE THAT, COULD WE HAVE THE MINUTES CLERK TAKE THE ROLL.

COMMISSIONER HUBINGER.

HERE. COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.

HERE. COMMISSIONER MEENES.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR SABELLICO.

PRESENT. AND COMMISSIONER AND CHAIR MERZ IS ABSENT.

AND COMMISSIONER STINE IS ABSENT.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

THE ANNOUNCEMENT, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR VIGILUCCI'S SEAFOOD AND STEAKHOUSE WAS NOTICE FOR THIS EVENING.

THAT ITEM IS BEING CONTINUED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 20TH, SO THAT ITEM WILL BE RE NOTICED AND HEARD AT THE SEPTEMBER 20TH PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING.

THANK YOU, PLANNER LARDY.

[1. CDP 2023-0018, EAST AND WEST CORRIDOR ROAD, AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT]

FIRST, HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS HAD ANY EX PARTE CONVERSATIONS ON THIS ITEM? NONE FOR ME. NO, NO, NO CONVERSATIONS.

BUT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE ROADWAYS.

I DRIVE BOTH STREETS OFTEN.

AND I'VE BEEN DOWN BOTH OF THEM FAIRLY OFTEN, BUT ESPECIALLY TAMARACK.

LIKEWISE FOR ME AS WELL.

OKAY. MR. LARDY, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM? YES. HERE TO GIVE A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM IS ASSOCIATE PLANNER MIRELES.

THANK YOU. CITY PLANNER LARDY, AND GOOD EVENING, CHAIR SABELLICO AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS SORRY IS AN APPLICATION FOR A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT TO REPURPOSE EXISTING ROADWAY SPACE WITH RESTRIPING TO MANAGE SPEEDS AND ALLOW FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG TWO CORRIDORS TAMARACK AVENUE AND POINSETTIA LANE.

HERE'S THE AGENDA FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE WALKING THROUGH THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER, PLAN LOCATION AND BACKGROUND, SCOPE, CONSISTENCY AND RECOMMENDED ACTION.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THE PROJECT DETAILS, I WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN.

LAST AUGUST, THE CITY COUNCIL DECLARED A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY AND ESTABLISHED THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN, WHICH OUTLINES A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF ACTIONS THAT SUPPORT REDUCING COLLISIONS ON LOCAL ROADS.

THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS ONE OF THE ACTIONS OUTLINED IN THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED OR THIS PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.

THE PROJECT BEFORE THE COMMISSION IS PART OF A LARGER PLAN THAT ACCELERATES THE RESURFACING AND RESTRIPING OF MAJOR EAST AND WEST CORRIDORS IN THE CITY. ON THIS MAP, THE ORANGE REPRESENTS THE AREAS THAT WILL BE RESURFACED AND RESTRIPED.

THE DASHED BLUE LINES ARE THE SPECIFIC AREAS WITH LANE REDUCTIONS AND THE TWO AREAS WITHIN THE GREEN BOXES ARE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE.

RECENTLY, THE COASTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT WE ANALYZE AND APPROVE A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR LANE REDUCTIONS.

FOR THIS AND SIMILAR FUTURE PROJECTS IN THE COASTAL ZONE, THE COMMISSION WILL BE REQUESTED TO APPROVE A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED ALONG TAMARACK AVENUE BETWEEN SUNNYHILL DRIVE TO EL CAMINO REAL AND POINSETTIA LANE BETWEEN CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND AVENIDA ENCINAS.

THE PROJECT IS WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE, BUT IS NOT WITHIN THE APPEALABLE JURISDICTION OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION.

THE PROJECT SITE ALONG TAMARACK AVENUE IS ADJACENT TO SINGLE AND MULTI-FAMILY HOMES AND OPEN SPACE.

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THE ROADWAY SEGMENT ALONG TAMARACK WILL BE RESTRIPED IN SOME AREAS FROM FOUR VEHICLE LANES TO TWO VEHICLE LANES.

THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS WHERE LANE REDUCTIONS WILL OCCUR.

AS YOU CAN SEE, DEDICATED LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES WILL REMAIN AND ONLY PAINT WILL BE ADDED AT THE INTERSECTIONS.

I'LL JUST LEAVE THIS IMAGE FOR A COUPLE MORE SECONDS.

THE ROADWAY SEGMENT ALONG POINSETTIA LANE IS SIMILAR AND WILL BE RESTRIPED IN SOME AREAS FROM FOUR VEHICLE LANES TO TWO VEHICLE LANES.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS WHERE LANE REDUCTIONS WILL OCCUR.

AS YOU CAN SEE, DEDICATED LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES WILL REMAIN AND ONLY PAINT WILL BE ADDED AT THE INTERSECTIONS.

THE NEXT FEW SLIDES SHOW DATA IN SUPPORT OF PRIORITIZING TRAFFIC SAFETY.

SAFER STREETS START WITH THE DESIGN BECAUSE IT'S A SELF-ENFORCING WAY OF CALMING TRAFFIC.

FOR EXAMPLE, WIDE STRAIGHT ROADS TEND TO HAVE FASTER SPEEDS.

MEANWHILE, NARROW CURVY ROADS TEND TO SEE SLOWER SPEEDS.

THIS DATASET SHOWS THE CAUSES OF SEVERE COLLISIONS IN CARLSBAD FROM 2017 TO MARCH OF 2023.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF TRAFFIC COLLISIONS IS SAFER STREETS, UNSAFE SPEEDS.

THIS DATASET SHOWS THE CAUSES OF FATAL COLLISIONS IN CARLSBAD FROM 2017 TO 2023.

AS YOU CAN SEE, UNSAFE SPEEDS ARE THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE.

SO WHEN WE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CAR LANES IT SUPPORTS SLOWER SPEEDS AND SLOWING DOWN CAN GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS PREVENTING COLLISIONS AND INJURIES. SO TO SUMMARIZE, THIS PROJECT WILL SUPPORT SAFER STREETS ON OUR ROADWAYS WHILE MAINTAINING TRAFFIC FLOW, IMPROVE THE LINE OF SIGHT AND ACCESS FOR PEOPLE ON SIDE STREETS AND IDENTIFY CONFLICT AREAS AND CREATE A MORE BALANCED BETWEEN CARS AND BIKES. MOST OF THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED TO ACHIEVE A LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE DRIVER, NOT PEDESTRIANS OR BICYCLISTS.

RECENTLY, THE CITY HAS IMPLEMENTED A MORE BALANCED, MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK THAT CONSIDERS PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES.

THE TRAFFIC STUDIES SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROJECT SHOWED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AND WOULD STILL OPERATE AT AN A LEVEL.

STAFF ANALYZED ALL OF THESE TOPICS FOR CONSISTENCY AND FOUND THE PROJECT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE DOCUMENTS.

STAFF ALSO COMPLETED A REVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, AND CONCLUDED THAT THE PROJECT QUALIFIED FOR AN EXISTING FACILITIES EXEMPTION BECAUSE THE PROJECT INCLUDES STREET IMPROVEMENTS OF A REASONABLE LENGTH.

WITH THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE EAST TO WEST CORRIDOR PROJECT.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

BEFORE WE GET INTO QUESTIONS, CAN YOU GO TO THE BEGINNING OF THE SLIDE AND SHOW THE SLIDE FOR THE PROCEDURES? SURE. IF YOU JUST GO TO YOUR FIRST SLIDE IZZAK I'LL GO BACKWARDS TO IT.

THANK YOU. SO THESE ARE THE PROCEDURES FOR THE COMMISSION HEARING AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED, WHICH IT WAS.

WE WILL HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION WHICH WE JUST HEARD, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TO QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE IS THE CITY.

SO WE WILL NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT AND THEN THE PROCEDURES WILL BE AS OUTLINED IN THE SLIDE.

OKAY. I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER MERZ.

COMMISSIONER MEENES.

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DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A SLIDE SHOWING THE INTERSECTIONS OF EL CAMINO REAL AND TAMARACK? AND THEN ALSO ON THE OTHER PROJECT ON POINSETTIA, BOTH AT AVENIDA ENCINAS AS WELL AS CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND NOT THAT ONE.

DO YOU HAVE ONE THAT SHOWS THE LANE CONFIGURATIONS? REGARDING FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION.

LET ME SEE IF AND HOW THAT IS TREATED WHEN YOU GET WITHIN X NUMBER OF FEET TO THE INTERSECTIONS.

COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THIS SLIDE HERE? NO. YOU HAD WITHIN OUR PACKAGE, THERE WAS A THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE CONFIGURATIONS OF THE ACTUAL LANE DELINEATIONS.

ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE STRIPING PLANS, COMMISSIONER? CORRECT. WE DIDN'T ADD THAT AS A SLIDE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY PULL IT UP IF YOU'D LIKE.

WOULD YOU? YEAH. THANK YOU.

SHOULD BE RIGHT AROUND HERE.

IS THIS? CORRECT? OKAY. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TAMARACK.

WE'RE FROM EL CAMINO REAL.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE LANE EITHER DIRECTION COMING DOWN THE HILL TO EL CAMINO.

AND THEN HOW MANY FEET IS IT FROM EL CAMINO WHERE IT RESUMES TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION? HOW MANY FEET ARE WE SPEAKING OF? I'M GOING TO HAVE THE PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS, STEP IN HERE.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME'S TOM FRANK AND I'M THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND YOUR CITY ENGINEER.

AND SO WE USE GUIDELINES.

WE USE CALIFORNIA MANUAL OF UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES TO USE THE APPROPRIATE LANE DROP LENGTH AND DEPENDING UPON THE SPEED OF THE ROADWAY.

SO I BELIEVE IN THAT AREA THAT'S IN THE RANGE OF ABOUT 400FT.

FOR THAT LANE DROP, BUT IT IS PER GUIDELINES.

SO I ASSUME THAT IT ALL MAKES SENSE TO ME IS THAT BY RESUMING THE TWO LANES IN EITHER DIRECTION, YOU'RE ABLE TO, I GUESS, SAY KIND OF LIKE A POCKET LANE TYPE THING.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE VOLUME OF VEHICLES TO GET INTO THE YELLOW S, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THEN CAN TRANSITION INTO THE EXISTING TWO LANES WHERE YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION.

SO IF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS RED AND THEY'RE STARTING TO STACK, THEY'RE NOT AS FAR BACK, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, AS THEY WOULD BE IN A ONE LANE TYPE OF SITUATION. SO IS THAT PART OF THE REASON WHY IN RATIONALE OR GIVE ME THE RATIONALE ON WHY IT'S JUST NOT ONE LANE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION? YES, COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

SO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, I BELIEVE, IS IF YOU'RE HEADING NORTHBOUND ON EL CAMINO REAL.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GRAPHIC ON YOUR SCREEN, YOU'RE SEEING THE INTERSECTION OF EL CAMINO REAL AND TAMARACK IN YOUR UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.

SO NORTHBOUND YOU CAN SEE THE NORTH ARROW.

IT'S A LITTLE NOT DIRECTLY STRAIGHT UP, BUT BASICALLY THE NORTHBOUND, WHAT I THINK OF AS NORTHBOUND EL CAMINO REAL IS GOING UPWARDS, YOU'LL SEE.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO LEFT TURN LANES THERE.

AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID BY HAVING TWO, YOU REDUCE THE QUEUING LENGTH.

CORRECT. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT IS YOU HEARD THE BENEFITS, WHICH OUR PROJECT PLANNER EXPLAINED VERY WELL.

WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON MOVING PEOPLE AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT MOVING VEHICLES ONLY.

IT'S ABOUT MOVING, OF COURSE, VEHICLES SAFELY BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT 90 OVER 90% OF THE THE MODE SHARE OF THE ROADWAY, BUT ALSO MOVING PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES AS WELL. AND SO WHAT WE FOCUS ON, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE ARTERIAL RECONFIGURATIONS, WHICH YOU'LL BE PROBABLY SEEING IN FUTURE AGENDAS,

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AND BY DOING THAT, THE REAL CONGESTION POINTS ARE THE INTERSECTIONS.

SO IF WE KEEP THE SAME LANE CONFIGURATIONS, IT REALLY DOES NOT CAUSE ADDITIONAL DELAY.

AND RECENT EXAMPLE OF THIS EXACTLY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ON SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD BETWEEN SOLIMAR DRIVE AND ISLAND WAY, AND WE NECKED DOWN THAT TWO LANE CONFIGURATION TO ONE LANE AFTER THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT SOLIMAR DRIVE.

AND WE DID THAT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USERS, THE BICYCLISTS AND THE PEDESTRIANS.

AND YOU'LL SEE EVEN DURING THE CONGESTED PERIODS WE HAD WHEN WE HAD THE STATE ROUTE 78 CLOSURES, WE STILL HAD REAL LAMINAR FLOW, VERY CONSISTENT FLOW FOR VEHICLES GOING THROUGH THAT SEGMENT.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

IT DOES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR SOMEONE ON STAFF SPEAK TO THIS PROJECT'S EFFECT ON EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES, WHETHER IT'S BEEN STUDIED, WHAT WAS FOUND, ETCETERA. VICE CHAIR AGAIN, TOM FRANK, TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, CITY ENGINEER.

AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES REVIEW ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, SPECIFICALLY THE PROJECTS AND THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN.

SO YEAH, THEY FELT THAT THIS PROJECT WAS NOT CAUSING DELAY AT THE SEGMENTS OR THE INTERSECTIONS.

SO THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT AND THEY ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT IT DOES ACTUALLY REDUCE THE RISK POTENTIAL ON THE ROADWAY AND ACCIDENT PREVENTION.

THANK YOU. AND BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY YOU KNOW, RESTRIPING.

IN A SITUATION WHERE AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE WOULD HAVE TO PASS CARS, CARS COULD STILL PULL OVER INTO THE BIKE LANE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T BE IDEAL.

BUT IN A SITUATION WITH EMERGENCY VEHICLES NEEDING TO PASS, THAT COULD HAPPEN.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

THANKS, MR. FRANK. MR. ISAAC, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU ALSO FOR THE TAMARACK AVENUE TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT UPDATE DATED AUGUST 10TH, 2023.

BECAUSE THAT WAS MY CONCERN DURING THE BRIEFING, WAS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEW ADDITIONS TO TAMARACK LATELY, SO AND I WAS CONCERNED.

I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE ALL THESE PROJECTS COME IN SORT OF ONE AT A TIME, IS THERE A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THIS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CEQA DOCUMENT EXEMPTING THIS PROJECT TALKS ABOUT PEDESTRIANS.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S MY CONCERN, IS MAKING SURE THAT OUR PEDESTRIANS ARE ALSO BENEFITING FROM THESE AND BICYCLES BENEFITING FROM THESE STRATEGIES.

BUT IS THERE A HOLISTIC IDEA THAT COMES FROM DOING THESE PROJECTS? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THIS PROJECT IS TELLING ME ONE THING AND THEN THIS PROJECT IS KIND OF TELLING ME SOMETHING ELSE AND THEY'RE NOT QUITE MELDED TOGETHER, SO IT'S HARD TO GET THE WHOLE PICTURE. IS THERE A PICTURE? WHAT'S THE VISION? SO THERE IS ACTUALLY A HOLISTIC, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE TAMARACK AVENUE CORRIDOR.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THE EMERGENCY.

THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS AND CONCERN ON TAMARACK AVENUE.

WE HAD SPEEDING CONCERNS.

WE HAD RESIDENT CONCERNS REGARDING THE INTERSECTION AT TAMARACK AND VALLEY.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY PLAN, WE HAVE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE CALLED TRANSFORMATIVE CORRIDOR PROJECTS. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT LOOKS AT THE CORRIDOR AS A WHOLE TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE TO IMPROVE THE THE SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY FOR ALL MODES.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, THEY'RE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS FOR THE MODES YOU MENTIONED THE PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.

SO TAMARACK AVENUE IS A TRANSFORMATIVE CORRIDOR PROJECT AND WE DO HAVE FUNDING TO STUDY THAT THIS YEAR.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE WAS WE ACTUALLY STAFF RECOMMENDED AND COUNCIL APPROVED A THREE PHASED APPROACH FOR ADDRESSING TAMARACK CORRIDOR.

THE FIRST PHASE WAS TO ADDRESS THE SPEEDING ISSUE BECAUSE WE HEARD THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY.

WE WANTED TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.

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SO THE FIRST STEP OR THE FIRST PHASE WAS TO IMPLEMENT THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT, WHICH YOU NOW HAVE SEEN PUT IN PLACE.

WE'RE JUST FINISHING UP THE DELINEATION AND THE SIGNAGE.

THE SECOND PART OF THAT WAS TO REEVALUATE THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT VALLEY AND TAMARACK, AND WE DID DO THAT.

WE BROUGHT BACK A REPORT TO OUR MOBILITY COMMISSION ASSESSING HOW THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE PERFORMING.

AND THEN THE LAST COMPONENT IS THE TRANSFORM CORRIDOR STEADYING EFFORT.

AND THAT'S JUST ABOUT TO COME UNDERWAY.

WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM ON HOW WE START DOING THE PUBLIC OUTREACH FOR THAT PROJECT.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IN SHORT, YES, THERE IS A HOLISTIC APPROACH AND THAT TRANSFORMATIVE CORRIDOR STUDY WILL BE THAT COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR. THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THAT, BUT WITH THESE PROJECTS SORT OF OVERLAPPING, IT'S SORT OF HARD TO GET A READ ON IT.

AND I SO I STRUGGLE WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT.

THE OTHER QUESTION, AND IT'S PROBABLY A VERY BASIC QUESTION, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT A CONCERN, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A CONCERN.

THE TRAFFIC CALMING ON TAMARACK THAT EXISTS, HOW DO BICYCLES TRAVEL OVER THOSE? IS THAT LIKE DOES THAT SORT OF; IS THERE A ACCOMMODATION FOR THE BICYCLE AS OPPOSED TO BECAUSE BIKES CAN'T GO AS FAST AS CARS? SO BUT THAT RAISED WHAT DO YOU CALL IT RAISED CROSSWALK, ESPECIALLY AROUND SUNNYHILL AND IN A COUPLE OTHER LOCATIONS HOW DO BIKES ACTUALLY TRAVERSE THAT? THEY TRAVERSE IT THE SAME WAY AS A CAR WOULD.

SO THEY GAUGE THEIR SPEED AND THEY CAN TRAVERSE IT AT 20 TO 25, 30MPH.

BUT IF SOME AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SPEED LIMIT FOR E-BIKES IN CALIFORNIA IS 28MPH, SO THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM TRAVERSING THE RAISED CROSSWALKS.

BUT IF SOMEONE CHOOSES TO LIKE IF THEY DON'T LIKE HITTING THEM THAT FAST, THEY CAN SLOW DOWN JUST LIKE CARS.

THERE'S IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC CALMING, YOU'LL SEE A DIFFERENT TOOL THAT WE USE.

IT'S CALLED A SPEED CUSHION AND THEY'RE SMALLER AND THEIR FOOTPRINT IS SMALLER BOTH IN WIDTH AND LENGTH AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SLOTS IN THEM.

AND THAT PROVIDES FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BICYCLISTS TO NOT HAVE TO GO OVER THE VERTICAL DEFLECTION.

BUT WHEN WE WERE VETTING THIS PROJECT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE TAMARACK AVENUE IS A VERY POPULAR CORRIDOR FOR THEM TO TRANSPORT PATIENTS TO THE EMERGENCY CENTERS.

SO WE WORKED WITH THEM.

THEIR SUGGESTION WAS TO USE SPEED TABLES AND THE RAISED CROSSWALKS.

AND SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH OUR DESIGN.

I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS, I DO HAVE A BACKUP SLIDE TO SHOW THE AREA THAT WE WERE REFERENCING.

SO THIS IS THE RAISED CROSSWALK THAT IS BEING REFERENCED.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HUBINGER.

YEAH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT'S A VERY WORTHWHILE PROJECT AND IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR CONFUSION FOR THE DRIVERS? SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS ALL SOUNDS GOOD ON PAPER, BUT YOU GET OUT THERE AND DRIVE AND THEY GO, WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT LANE AM I IN? I CAN'T SEE IT FROM A DRIVER'S STATE.

YOU'RE CLOSER TO IT.

IS IT A NO BRAINER OR IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE COULD KIND OF GET CONFUSED AND? I'M JUST ASKING. YEAH.

SO I HOPE IT'S NOT CONFUSING.

WE AGAIN, WE MENTIONED THAT WE, WE IMPLEMENT OUR STRIPING PER THE CALIFORNIA MANUAL OF UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

THAT'S A STATEWIDE GUIDELINE.

AND SO WE DO THAT SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET CONFUSED ON STRIPING AND SIGNING VARIATIONS FROM CITY TO CITY.

SO IT'S VERY UNIFORM.

SO THE STRIPING WHEN YOU DO GO OUT, IF YOU HAVEN'T TRAVERSED THE CORRIDOR LATELY, IT'LL LOOK LIKE RAISED CROSSWALKS IN ANY OTHER CITY.

IT'S STRIPED THE SAME AND WE DON'T ACTUALLY THE PROJECT WHICH IS FORTHCOMING IS EAST WEST CORRIDOR OR ACTUALLY PART OF THIS PROJECT.

ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING IT CONFUSED NOW.

WE'RE JUST CONSTRUCTING THE TRAFFIC CALMING, WHICH IS NOT ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.

THE EAST WEST CORRIDOR IS IS WHAT IS ON YOUR AGENDA.

AND WE ARE, WHEN WE RESTRIPED THIS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF DELINEATION THAT YOU SEE ON OTHER CORRIDORS.

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OKAY. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS, DO YOU ACTUALLY KEEP TRACK OF THE SPEED? SO WHEN YOU MAKE A CHANGE LIKE THIS, DO YOU HAVE A WAY TO SAY, HEY, OUR AVERAGE SPEED WENT FROM 32 TO 28MPH AFTER WE INITIATED THE CHANGE? ABSOLUTELY. WE DO, DO THAT.

WE HAVE THE BEFORE SPEEDS.

AND THEN ONCE WE MAKE A CHANGE, A PHYSICAL CHANGE TO THE ROADWAY, WE THEN LET IT THE TRAFFIC NORMALIZE AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK OUT AND DO AN AFTER STUDY.

AND IF IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH AND WITH THEIR AFTER STUDY AND IT SHOWS LIKE A REDUCTION OF CLOSE TO FIVE MILES PER HOUR OR SO, WE CAN THEN MAKE THE DETERMINATION TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT AND THEN WE BRING THAT TO OUR TRAFFIC MOBILITY COMMISSION AND THEN OUR CITY COUNCIL.

SO AS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD BETWEEN SOLIMAR DRIVE AND ISLAND WAY, WE DID ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE A SPEED REDUCTION. SO WE ARE BRINGING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL IN AN UPCOMING MEETING TO PROPOSE REDUCING THAT SPEED LIMIT.

YOUR GOAL HERE IS TO GO FROM WHAT TO WHAT? WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THAT IN A YEAR OR SIX MONTHS FROM NOW YOU GO, HEY, THAT WORKED.

WITHIN SIX MONTHS WE SHOULD DEFINITELY SEE THE RESULTS OF ANY SPEED REDUCTION OR SPEED CHANGE.

BUT OUR GOAL, WE DIDN'T HAVE A SET SPEED IN MIND THAT THE SPEED, THE RAISED CROSSWALKS AND SPEED TABLES, WE'RE DESIGNED TO CROSS AT ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 25MPH.

AND SO WE'RE HOPING WE SEE WHAT WE'RE REALLY HOPING TO DO IS WE'RE HOPING TO DISCOURAGE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCEEDING THE CURRENT SPEED LIMIT.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A QUALITATIVE MEASURE, I'M SAYING.

BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL THE RESULTS WITHIN SIX MONTHS FOR SURE.

OKAY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO AN AFTER STUDY.

I GOT IT. I'M NOT TRYING TO.

I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT ARE THOSE RESULTS? SO YOU GET YOU'RE AT A CERTAIN SPEED LEVEL RIGHT NOW.

YEAH. WHAT IS THAT? YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IS THAT YEAH, IT'S 35. AND IN SIX MONTHS, WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT IT TO BE? IT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 35 AND 30.

THAT'S MY GUESS. SO WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THE CHANGES.

I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH WITH AN INTENTION OR AN OBJECTIVE TO DO SOMETHING AND WHAT'S THE MEASUREMENT FOR IT AND WHAT WOULD YOU BE HAPPY WITH IF IT ACTUALLY COMES TO PASS WHAT THAT NUMBER IS? I'D BE HAPPY WITH THE RESIDENTS ALONG THAT STREET SAYING THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THE PROJECT WAS A SUCCESS AND THAT WE SAW A SPEED REDUCTION.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT THAT'S NOT MEASURABLE.

WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY MEASURABLE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE AFTER STUDY ONCE THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT IS COMPLETE, WHICH IT ALMOST IS, AND THEN WE DO THE RESTRIPING. THOSE ARE TWO CHANGES TO THE ROADWAY.

SO I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THE SPEED, THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED IS HOW WE DETERMINE HOW WE SET THE SPEED LIMIT.

WHEN WE DO THOSE AFTER STUDIES, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SPEED REDUCTION, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE VERTICAL DEFLECTION.

SO I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT YOU'D BE HAPPY WITH THE SPEED REDUCTION FROM THE CURRENT? YES. YES, I'D BE HAPPY AS A TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, AS WITH A SPEED REDUCTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.

THANK YOU. I'VE ENJOYED THE PRESENTATION.

I'M JUST A LITTLE.

I WANT TO HEARKEN BACK TO COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY'S QUESTION OR COMMENT ABOUT THE HOLISTIC OR WHOLE APPROACH.

IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL OF TAMARACK FROM THE FREEWAY TO EL CAMINO REAL IS TO BE STRIPED? IS THAT THE GOAL? FROM. CAN YOU REPEAT THOSE LIMITS FROM CARLSBAD BOULEVARD TO.

NO, NO, NO. FROM THE FREEWAY.

BASICALLY, WITH EAST TO EL CAMINO REAL.

IS THAT WHOLE TAMARACK CORRIDOR GOING TO BE STRIPED? YES. OKAY.

AND THEN WHEN WILL THAT OCCUR? WHEN WILL THAT OCCUR? YES. IT'S ACTUALLY UNDER CONTRACT RIGHT NOW, SO IT SHOULD OCCUR WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS.

AND WILL THAT BE BROUGHT IN FRONT OF US OR NOT? THAT.

IF MAYBE IF I COULD JUMP IN HERE AND JUST HELP ORIENT.

THIS MAP SHOWS THE OVERALL PROJECT OF THE OF WHAT'S OCCURRING AS PART OF THE EAST WEST CORRIDOR IN ORANGE WITHOUT BLUE DASHED IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE RESURFACED AND RESTRIPED AND THEN THE BLUE DASHES ARE GOING TO BE RESTRIPED WITH A REDUCED LANE CONFIGURATION.

FURTHER NARROWING WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE'S ONLY TWO AREAS THAT ARE IN THE COASTAL ZONE THAT ARE BEING RESTRIPED AND REDUCING CAPACITY.

SO THOSE TWO BLUE BOX OR GREEN BOXES THAT ARE WHAT'S PROPOSED IN FRONT OF US.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT LOOKS LIKE TAMARACK FROM THE I-5 TO EL CAMINO, ALL OF IT WILL BE RESURFACED AND RESTRIPED.

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SO IT'LL JUST BE RESURFACED AND RESTRIPED IN ESSENTIALLY THE SAME CONFIGURATION.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

[LAUGHTER] SEEING NO MORE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

MINUTES CLERK WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? BECKY POWERS.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BECKY POWERS AND I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR SEE THIS PRESENTATION AND SEE SOME OF THE CONCEPTS.

SO I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE IS QUESTIONS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SINGLE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LANE IN THE MIDDLE THAT'S A MULTI TURN LANE THAT'S CORRECT? SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LEFT HAND.

THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY IS INTENDED TO ALLOW FOR FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY, BUT IT IS NOT INTENDED TO ALLOW FOR.

I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS. SO I CAN GIVE YOU THE QUESTIONS AND YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT THEN, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT.

YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS BUT THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE TO ANSWER THEM.

OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

SO THE QUESTIONS ARE WITH THE LANE REDUCTION THAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE MAPS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CENTER LEFT LANE THAT YOU CAN TURN LEFT IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE LEFT HAND TURN LANES ARE DIFFICULT.

SO REDUCING IT TO ONE WOULD BE THAT'D BE GREAT.

IF THAT COULD BE CONFIRMED.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THE OTHER QUESTION IS, WHEN YOU WERE ASKING THE QUESTIONS THAT I NOTICED WAS SO THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR STREET AMBERWOOD THAT'S VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION OF TAMARACK AND EL CAMINO, VERY CLOSE.

SO IF YOU THAT'S A SECTION WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO TURN LEFT INTO THERE.

THERE'S BEEN REAR END ACCIDENTS THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T EXPECT THEM TO STOP.

SO I'M CONCERNED IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LANE REDUCTION FROM TWO COMING FROM EL CAMINO REAL GOING TO TAMARACK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE GOING INTO ONE LANE AND THEN I DON'T THINK THEY CAN GET INTO THAT LEFT HAND TURN LANE YET BECAUSE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION.

SO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO LANES MERGING AND SOMEBODY STOPPING THERE TO TURN LEFT AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFICULT COLLISION AREA THERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I WAS HOPING YOU COULD ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO TRAVERSE THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, AMBERWOOD, THAT'S THE ONLY ENTRANCE AND EXIT THAT STREET HAS.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER WAY TO GET IN EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE ENTRANCE.

THEN ALSO AT THE ENTRANCE OF AMBERWOOD WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE HILL.

SO YOU'RE GOING WEST TO EAST.

THERE IS, THE SIDEWALK WAS PUT IN A LONG TIME AGO.

SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY BIG BUMP THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

SO THE RESIDENTS GOING INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE TO REDUCE THEIR SPEED QUITE A BIT BECAUSE IT'S A NARROW DRIVEWAY.

AND IF THEY WANT TO GET IN THERE WITHOUT GETTING FLAT TIRES GOING IN THERE, THEY HAVE TO SLOW DOWN REALLY, REALLY A LOT LIKE PROBABLY FIVE MILES AN HOUR.

SO IF THAT CURB WAY COULD BE REDUCED SO THAT THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO SLOW DOWN.

I MEAN, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO SLOW WAY DOWN TO GET TO THE STREET, BUT NOT SO MUCH.

THEN THERE'LL BE LESS CHANCES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE PEOPLE TEND TO GET RUN REALLY CLOSE TO THEM.

THERE'S TWO LANES, SO THEY THINK THEY'RE TURNING RIGHT AT EL CAMINO AND AT EL CAMINO, THERE'S A DEDICATED RIGHT HAND TURN LANE.

SO SOMETIMES THEY FOLLOW THEM REALLY CLOSE, NOT REALIZING THEY'RE COMING INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THERE'S BEEN SOME ACCIDENTS AND VERY CLOSE CALLS BECAUSE THEY GO INTO THAT AREA.

SO IF YOU COULD REDUCE THAT CURB AREA THERE, THAT WOULD HELP THAT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THE AMBERWOOD STREET, BY THE WAY, I'M ON THE BOARD FOR THE ASSOCIATION THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT WOULD BE OUR CONCERN, IS TO HELP THOSE NEIGHBORS IN THAT COMMUNITY GET IN AND OUT MORE ACCESSIBLE.

SO I'M NOT SURE HOW HE WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THERE AND WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING SOMETHING TO MAKE THAT LESS DANGEROUS.

BUT THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THAT IS THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER.

WOULD STAFF LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS THAT WERE RAISED IN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY? YES. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.

IF WE COULD, CAN YOU PULL UP ON THE STAFF REPORT PAGE 32? AND SO IN YOUR GRAPHIC HERE, HERE'S THE STRIPING PLAN OF TAMARACK AVENUE AT AMBERWOOD COURT.

AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IS THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST IF YOU GO TOWARDS THE WEST, FURTHER AWAY FROM EL CAMINO REAL, YOU'LL SEE THE THREE LANE CONFIGURATION WHICH WAS REFERRED TO.

AND JUST TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW, RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION WITH ONE DOUBLE YELLOW CENTER LINE.

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YOU ONLY HAVE TO TURN ACROSS ONE TRAVEL LANE IN EACH DIRECTION AND YOU USE THAT DUAL CENTER TURN LANE AS A STAGING AREA.

SO THAT MAKES IT A LOT SAFER FOR PEOPLE ENTERING AND EXITING WHEN THEY'RE.

SO WHAT WE WERE HEARING WAS A CONCERN IS THAT AMBERWOOD THAT'S IN A TRANSITION.

AND SO I HEARD A SPECIFIC CONCERN IF YOU WERE HEADING WESTBOUND FROM EL CAMINO REAL AND YOU'RE TURNING INTO AMBERWOOD AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE THERE'S NO GAP, WHAT WOULD THAT DO? OR WOULD THAT PRESENT ANY KIND OF A RISK OR CONCERN? AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, AGAIN, YOU HEARD IT'S STRIPING AND IT'S NOT CURB REALIGNMENTS OR ANYTHING HARD, IT'S JUST PAINT.

SO IF YOU'RE STAGING WITH YOUR LEFT BLINKER ON WAITING TO TURN LEFT, PEOPLE CAN STILL GO AROUND YOU AND THERE'S STILL ADEQUATE ROOM FOR THEM NOT TO IMPOSE ON THE BIKE LANE.

SO THAT'S THE ANSWER REGARDING THE LEFT TURN.

AND THEN IN REGARDS TO THE CURVATURE OF THE ROADWAY, I WAS WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY WHAT SEGMENT OF THE ROADWAY WERE YOU REFERRING TO, TAMARACK AVENUE TRYING TO STRAIGHTEN OUT THE CURVE OR WHERE AND I'M SORRY, I'M SPEAKING TO YOU, VICE CHAIR.

I GUESS I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT CURVATURE ISSUE BEFORE I CAN REALLY RESPOND.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PORTION OF OUR MEETING.

I WILL NOW OPEN UP DISCUSSION TO THE COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER MEENES.

YEAH. IT MIGHT BE AS A SUGGESTION.

MAYBE STAFF MIGHT CHAT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL THAT CAME UP TO THE PODIUM A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE TOMORROW OR WHATEVER, EITHER IN PERSON OR ON THE PHONE AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER MOST OF THESE QUESTIONS, I THINK COULD VERY EASILY BE SATISFIED BETWEEN STAFF AND THE INDIVIDUAL.

COMMISSIONER HUBINGER. YEAH.

QUICK QUESTION. SO WHEN YOU'RE TURNING LEFT, YOU'RE GOING EL CAMINO NORTH AND YOU'RE GOING TO TURN LEFT ONTO TAMARACK AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK LEFT ONTO AMBERWOOD. IS IT A DOUBLE TURN, TWO LANE TURN FROM EL CAMINO REAL TO TAMARACK OR JUST ONE SINGLE LANE TURN? IT'S A DOUBLE TURN.

THERE'LL BE TWO TURN LANES AND THEN WE'LL IMMEDIATELY START YOU'LL SEE THE ARROWS TO DROP THAT OUTSIDE LANE SO THAT THE STRIPING PLAN IS ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU. YEAH, BUT THERE WILL BE TWO TURN LANES.

YEAH. SO TWO. SO THE TURNERS WILL BE GOING, THERE'LL BE TWO LANES MERGING INTO ONE AND THEN THERE'LL BE IMMEDIATELY SOMEBODY TURNING LEFT ONTO AMBERWOOD.

CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHAT EXISTS TODAY.

RIGHT. BUT, I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING IT SEEMS A LITTLE CONFUSING TO ME.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE CONFUSING.

I'M NOT. YOU GUYS ARE EXPERTS AT IT, BUT SO YOU HAVE THREE THINGS GOING ON THERE.

YOU HAVE 2 TO 1, YOU HAVE THEN 2 TO 1 TO TURN, TO COMBINE, AND THEN YOU HAVE A LEFT HAND TURN LANE.

YOU KNOW, ALL HAPPENING AT ONE TIME.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST IN MY MIND, I'M SAYING IT JUST HAS A FORMULA.

MIGHT BE FOR SOME CONFUSION.

I DON'T KNOW. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT.

I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT? SORRY. THAT'S WHAT I SHOULD ASK.

VICE CHAIR, IF I MAY.

SO WHEN WE COMPLETE CHANGES TO THE ROADWAY, WE MONITOR THE PERFORMANCE AFTER THE CHANGE, SO WE'LL BE OUT THERE.

WE ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.

WE REALLY ASK FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE BETTER THE PERFORMANCE FOR OUR ROAD SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROGRAM.

SO GREAT COMMENT.

WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH THAT. SO AS SOON AS THE STRIPING IS DONE, WE OPEN UP THE ROADWAY, WE'LL BE OUT THERE MONITORING, SEE WHAT THE THE ACTIONS OF THE DRIVERS ARE, AND IF WE NEED TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES.

ONE MORE COMMENT, PLEASE.

SO WHAT'S DIFFERENT TODAY IS WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT WHEN WE DO THIS FROM TODAY IS THE TWO VERSES ONE IS IS REALLY ACCELERATED.

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RIGHT. I MEAN, BEFORE RIGHT NOW, THEY COULD EASE INTO TWO LANES AND JUST CONTINUE ON WITH TWO LANES.

NOW THEY HAVE TO TURN, MERGE AND THEN TURN LEFT.

YEAH. I MEAN, HAVE YOU STUDIED THAT? I'M JUST ASKING. YEAH.

AND AS I MENTIONED, IT'S THE TRANSITIONS PER THE MUTCD'S, SO IT'S NOT THAT ABRUPT.

IT'S 400 PLUS FEET.

SO. AND AGAIN, IT'S STRIPED, IT'S STRIPING.

SO WHAT WE SEE, UNFORTUNATELY TOO MANY TIMES IS EVEN WHEN WE DON'T INTEND PEOPLE TO GO AROUND, PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT, WE PLAN FOR IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO. SO WHETHER IT'S STRIPED WITH TWO LANES OR ONE LANE, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO GO AROUND THE CAR THAT'S TURNING LEFT THERE.

I'M CONFIDENT OF THAT.

PEOPLE WILL NOT WAIT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

COMMISSIONER MEENES. YES.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION APPROVING COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

I WILL SECOND. OKAY.

PLEASE VOTE.

WILL THE MINUTES CLERK PLEASE TAKE A VOICE VOTE? AND JUST DO A ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER HUBINGER.

WANT TO REBOOT.

THANK YOU. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR OUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

WE WILL NOW GO INTO THE MINUTES FOR THE WAS IT THE JULY 19TH MEETING?

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES FOR THE JULY 19TH MEETING? OKAY. SEEING NO DISCUSSION, I WILL TAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. I MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MEENES.

PLEASE VOTE.

THANK YOU. THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS, FIVE ZERO WITH TWO ABSENT.

WE WILL NOW GO INTO COMMISSIONER REPORTS.

NO, WE WILL NOT. HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT.

THERE'S A FEW TECHNICALITIES.

ONE WE NEVER DID DO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

NOBODY IS HERE.

BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO AS A FORMALITY.

JUST SAY, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? THANK YOU SENIOR ASSISTANT ATTORNEY.

WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THAT ITEM.

OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS WHEN THERE IS A CONTINUATION OF AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT'S BEEN NOTICED, THERE HAS TO BE A VOTE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO AGREE TO

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AND THEN THE CHAIR OF THE DAY HAS TO ANNOUNCE THE DAY IT IS CONTINUED TO, OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO RE NOTICE IT.

SO IF YOU MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF AFTER THE VOTE OF WHAT MEETING, IT WILL BE CONTINUED TO AS WELL, THEN THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT NOTICE FOR THE HEARING AND WE

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THANK YOU ONCE MORE.

OKAY. WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION? THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE'RE TAKING THIS ITEM TO WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 20TH.

WE ARE CANCELING THE SEPTEMBER 6TH ITEM OR MEETING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER TWO TO THAT DATE? SURE. OKAY.

SEEING THE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HUBINGER AND SECONDED.

I'LL SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER MEENES.

CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 20TH.

YES, THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER TWO TO SEPTEMBER 20TH.

PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS WITH FIVE YES, TWO ABSENT.

WE WILL NOW GO INTO COMMISSIONER REPORTS STARTING AT THE END OF THE LINE.

[PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS]

CYNTHIA, COULD YOU DISTRIBUTE TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, THE REVISED ADDRESSES AND CONTACT INFORMATION? I WAS TRYING TO CONTACT ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND I COULDN'T FIND THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION.

AND MR. KEMP, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE.

JUST ONE NOTE THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION I UNDERSTAND THE COMMISSION WILL MEET ON SEPTEMBER 11TH AND I THINK THERE ARE TWO MILLS ACT APPLICATIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REVIEW. SO VERY EXCITING.

SO THANK YOU. SO I ALREADY MENTIONED, BUT JUST TO REITERATE,

[CITY PLANNER REPORT]

WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE THREE ITEMS FOR SEPTEMBER 20TH, SO PLAN ON THAT MEETING GOING AT LEAST A LITTLE LONGER THAN SOMETIMES AS WELL AS THE CITYWIDE AND THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE BOTH ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S DOCKET FOR AUGUST 29TH.

SO THOSE ITEMS WERE HEARD LAST MEETING WITH THIS GROUP.

THEY'RE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

NO COMMENTS.

OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT TAKES US TO THE END OF THE AGENDA.

WITH THAT, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 5:48.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.