Aug 22, 2023 City Council Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER: ]

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I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA HERE.

MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL HERE.

MAYOR BLACKBURN PRESENT.

ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

I HAVE TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT.

CITY COUNCIL IS SERVING AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER FOUR PLEDGE.

CITY ATTORNEY, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? THANK YOU. READY? BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THIS WILL BE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING HELD JUNE 13TH OF 23.

SPECIAL MEETING HELD JUNE 20TH 23.

REGULAR MEETING HELD JUNE 20TH 23 SPECIAL MEETING HELD JULY 11TH OF 23.

REGULAR MEETING HELD JULY 11TH OF 23.

SPECIAL MEETING HELD JULY 18TH OF 23.

REGULAR MEETING HELD JULY 18TH OF 23.

SPECIAL MEETING HELD JULY 25TH OF 23.

REGULAR MEETING HELD JULY 25TH OF 23, AND THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD AUGUST 15TH OF 23.

MOTION PLEASE. MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS RECITED BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT IS PRESENTATIONS.

DO WE HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT? NO. OKAY. NEXT IS A REPORT OF ANY ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION.

DO WE HAVE ANY? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THERE WAS NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL OTHER NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEWS ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.

THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME.

PLEASE STAND UP AT THE PODIUM.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO BE SAFE.

I'M SORRY. TO BE FAIR TO ALL SPEAKERS, I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.

GLENN BERNARD. YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND DO A GOOGLE SEARCH TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE CARLSBAD AVERAGE FAMILY INCOME.

IT'S $112,900 AND THIS YEAR, SOMEBODY IN CARLSBAD BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION A WEBSITE CALLED TRANSPARENT CALIFORNIA.COM.

I DON'T KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEIR INFORMATION IS RELIABLE OR NOT.

BUT SALARIES HERE IN THIS HERE BUILDING HERE AT CITY HALL.

I'M GOING TO SKIP THE CHEAP PARTS OF A SALARY.

I'M JUST GOING TO RUN DOWN.

AGAIN, THIS IS TRANSPARENT CALIFORNIA, IF ANY SEEMS LIKE SOMEBODY HERE WOULD THINK, GOSH, THAT'S NOT MY SALARY.

I GOT TO CONTACT THOSE PEOPLE.

MY SALARY IS NOT THAT OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH.

CHADWICK $468,000 A MEDIAN FAMILY.

THAT'S TWO OR MORE PEOPLE, $112,000.

CHADWICK $468,000.

WILLIAMS $376,000.

FOUDRE $353.

COME ON.

I WAS READY. MORE READY A WHILE AGO.

MM. SHIPLEY.

$346 MARSHALL $341.

DE VELASCO, $339.

MCMAHON $336.

JEFFREY SMITH $335.

CALDERWOOD $334.

HARGETT $332.

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[INAUDIBLE] $326 THESE ARE ALL SO HIGH.

IF I WAS ONE OF YOU PEOPLE, I'D COMPLAIN TO THIS WEBSITE.

JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

OPACA $320.

ANOTHER CALDERWOOD $319.

ROSENTHAL $316.

[INAUDIBLE] $313.

BARBIERI $313.

ORDEAL $311.

AND THERE'S LIKE, THERE'S WAY TOO MANY MORE NAMES.

THESE FIGURES SEEM WAY OUT OF LINE.

RIDICULOUS. TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN? HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS GET SNUCK IN BEHIND THE PEOPLE'S BACKS? AND I HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL DON'T GET PAID VERY MUCH MONEY.

BUT WHAT PEOPLE IN THE PAST, THE ELECTED PEOPLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE ALWAYS LOVED THE $35,000 BRONZE PLAQUES THAT GO ON PUBLIC BUILDINGS UPON COMPLETION AND THAT HAS DRIVEN PEOPLE CRAZY.

ONE LADY RESIGNED FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, NORINE SIGAFOOSE, BECAUSE OF THE CORRUPTION.

THERE ARE NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

NEXT IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

IS THERE. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL ANYTHING ELSE? THEN LET'S LET'S TAKE THE MOTION FOR ONE THROUGH EIGHT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE AND FIVE, WE'LL GET THAT PASSED.

SO MOVED.

SECOND. MAYOR YOU HAVE A SPEAKER ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

WE PULLED ONE AND FIVE.

OKAY. WE'RE JUST VOTING ON THE OTHERS.

THOSE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

[1. AGREEMENT WITH GHD INC. FOR THE KELLY DRIVE AND PARK DRIVE COMPLETE STREET IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, CIP PROJECT NO. 6075]

YES, WE DO. CHRIS WRIGHT.

THANK YOU. GREETINGS.

AS AN FYI, NOT ON THE STAFF REPORT GHD WAS AWARDED $563,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON 91217 FOR THIS PROJECT.

I'M SPEAKING AS A STAKEHOLDER AND I'M REPRESENTING MY COMMUNITY LOMA LAGUNA.

I'VE ATTENDED ALMOST ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC SURVEYS ON THIS PROJECT.

THIS SHOWS THE PROJECT LOCATION ON KELLY AND PARK DRIVES.

I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE PROJECT, BUT I DO HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT AT KELLY AND PARK DRIVE.

I'D LIKE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, INCLUDING IN THE PROPOSED CONTRACT, THAT THE ROUNDABOUT AT THAT INTERSECTION BE OMITTED.

TODAY'S STAFF REPORT DID NOT INCLUDE THE ACTUAL PLAN FOR THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS ON KELLY.

I'M ADDRESSING THE PARK AND KELLY ROUNDABOUT HERE.

OUR COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED FOR OUR SAFETY, FOR EVACUATION IN CASE OF A FIRE AT THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION ON 12523.

I ASKED IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY COMMUNICATION WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS CONCERNING THE EVACUATION AND SAFETY TRAFFIC STAFF SAID NO.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS MAP THE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT IN MY COMMUNITY, CONSISTING OF 130 HOMES WITH ONE EGRESS.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE TO THE SOUTH THE PROXIMITY OF THE AGUA HEDIONDA LAGOON RESERVE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

CONCERNED ABOUT THE RECENT FIRES IN CALIFORNIA AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I MET WITH RANDY METZ, FIRE MARSHAL, ON 22323 TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL FOR FIRE IN THIS AREA.

ALTHOUGH NOT DESIGNATED AS A HIGH FIRE ZONE, WE SPOKE ABOUT THE POINSETTIA FIRE IN MAY 2014, WHICH COVERED AN AREA THAT ALSO DID NOT HAVE THAT HIGH FIRE ZONE DESIGNATION.

WITH THE DRY BRUSH IN THE LAGUNA AREA HE SAID, "ALL CITY AND STATE RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO INTO PROTECTED WETLANDS TO CLEAN OUT DEBRIS." WE HAVE ALSO SPOKE TO WE ALSO SPOKE OF SOME HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND LIVING IN THAT AREA AS WELL.

HE SAID THERE IS A DANGER OF A WIND DRIVEN FIRE THAT COULD EASILY AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

ON 6723, I MET WITH JAMES WOODS, CITY ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGER, MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS PROTECTED AREA CALLED THE AGUA HEDIONDA

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IT IS OWNED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND MANAGED BY THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSISTS OF 186 ACRES AND IS DESIGNATED AN URBANIZED PRESERVE WITH ONLY THE EVACUATION FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

USING THE KELLY AND PARK DRIVE EXIT, WHICH YOU CAN SEE EVEN BORDERS THE PRESERVE.

WE ARE CONCERNED THAT A ROUNDABOUT AT THAT LOCATION WOULD IMPEDE US FROM SAFELY, SAFELY EVACUATING.

THANK YOU, CHRIS. YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED.

BUT WE GOT. WE GOT THE POINT.

THANK YOU. AND I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT.

IS THIS ETCHED IN STONE OR IS THIS JUST PROPOSAL AT THIS POINT? LET ME GO AHEAD AND BRING OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, TOM FRANK, UP, TOM.

THANK YOU, CHRIS. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND SO YOUR QUESTION WAS, IS THIS ETCHED IN STONE OR IS THIS A PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? YES. SO THE ACTION IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS TO APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH GHD TO FURTHER DESIGN OF THE PROJECT SO IT'S NOT ETCHED IN STONE. AND TO ELABORATE, WE COLLABORATE VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TEAM ON ALL PROJECTS, NOT JUST THIS PROJECT.

AND WE WOULD, BEFORE WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU FOR APPROVAL OF THE PLANS AND AUTHORIZATION OF BID, WE WOULD GET OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TEAM'S APPROVAL AND WE WOULD NOT BRING TO YOU SOMETHING THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID NOT APPROVE.

THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER.

WHAT'S THE PROPER WAY FOR ME AS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO SAY THAT I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THE THE ROUNDABOUT AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.

I DROVE THE INTERSECTION AND I WAS DROVE AWAY SCRATCHING MY HEAD, WONDERED WHY THAT WAS MORE BENEFICIAL THAN JUST A THREE WAY STOP.

IT'S NOT EVEN A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION.

WHAT'S THE PROPER WAY TO TO ADDRESS THAT? IF COUNCIL DESIRES THEY COULD ASK STAFF TO RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE A MORE FULL DISCUSSION ON THE PENDING DESIGNS RELATED TO THAT.

SO IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S WILL, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

OKAY. JUST ON THAT ONE TOPIC, THAT WOULD BE MY MY MOTION TO BRING THAT BACK AND ADDRESS IT.

I LOOK TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR COMMENTS OR A SECOND.

MAYOR, MAY I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION, PLEASE? YES, YOU MEAN SO INSTEAD OF VOTING ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT, YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED TO YOU IF I WANT TO SAY NO, I CAN SAY NO, THANK YOU.

SURE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY.

ANY COMMENTS? FEEDBACK? JUST ONE QUESTION.

IF WE DON'T VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT, MR. FRANK, IS THERE ANY DOWNSIDE FOR THIS CONTRACT? ARE WE AT RISK OF SOME SORT OF DEAL WITH THEM? I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A RISK IN THE CONTRACT, BUT IT, OF COURSE, DOES DELAY THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. AND YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.

THANK YOU. SO LET'S VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

NEED A MOTION, PLEASE? WELL, WE JUST MADE THE MOTION, SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE.

THAT WAS JUST THE MOTION FOR THAT PARTICULAR PORTION TO BE BROUGHT UP.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING CITY ATTORNEY? THAT WAS MY INTENT. THAT WAS MY CLARIFYING QUESTION.

WHETHER IN LIEU OF DECIDING ITEM NUMBER ONE, YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE THE MATTER BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

[5. DESIGNATION OF VOTING DELEGATE AND ALTERNATE FOR THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE]

DO WE HAVE STAFF WHO CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTION? YEAH. AND LET ME BRING UP OUR CLERK SERVICES MANAGER, FAVIOLA MEDINA, AND FAVIOLA IS GOING TO DISCLOSE YOU OR RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION, SIR.

OKAY. I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IN RESPONSE TO AN EMAIL I RECEIVED.

IT WAS SOMETHING I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT, BUT ONCE I GOT THE EMAIL, I STARTED THINKING, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES ON THE COUNCIL WHO REPRESENT THE CITY.

I REPRESENT THE [INAUDIBLE] WASTEWATER COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA AT THE WATER AUTHORITY.

COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER AT SANDAG.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL FOR US TO VOTE ON ANY OF THOSE SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS.

BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WE DO HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES REPRESENTATIVES TO BE ABLE TO BE VOTING MEMBERS.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THAT APPLIES TO JUST ONE AND NOT ALL.

FOR THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WE ACTUALLY RECEIVE A REQUEST FROM THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ASKING US TO HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL FORMALLY ADOPT THAT IN WRITING THROUGH A RESOLUTION.

SO THIS IS WHY WE PUT THIS FORWARD FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY SERVING ON THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES, BUT JUST FOR FORMALITY REASONS, WE DO NEED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION ADOPTED AUTHORIZING THAT.

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THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE. IT'S JUST THAT THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES JUST MADE THEIR OWN REQUEST FOR THIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THEY MAKE A REQUEST ANNUALLY TO PUT FORWARD NAMES OFFICIALLY AND THEN DESIGNATE THEM AS THE VOTING DELEGATES.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE VERY BRIEFLY.

AND DURING OUR MEETINGS, ACTUALLY, WE ALSO VOTE ON CERTAIN ISSUES AS THE VOTING MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA VOTES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WITH REGARDS TO ANY POSITIONS THAT THE LEAGUE IS TAKING.

GENERALLY, THOSE ARE VERY UNANIMOUS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TAKING POSITIONS ON BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO PROTECT OUR CITY AND PROTECT LOCAL CONTROL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT ON THE RECORD THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA AND MYSELF AS THE DIVISION PRESIDENT, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. THANK YOU.

AND I GUESS MY BIGGEST QUESTION WAS AND IT GOT ANSWERED WAS WHY ONE OF ALL THE VERY MANY IMPORTANT ASSIGNMENTS, WHY DOES THIS ONE NEED THE COUNCIL? THERE'S A THERE'S A GENERAL RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE THAT THEY TEND TO HAVE.

AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.

BUT FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY, THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT THERE WILL BE VOTING HAPPENING AT THIS YOU KNOW FROM EVERYONE ACROSS THE STATE AT THAT GENERAL RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.

SO AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA HAD SOMETHING TO SAY TOO.

THANK YOU. I HAD ALSO RECEIVED THIS QUESTION AND I KIND OF WORDED IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

BUT IT'S THE SAME SAME THING THAT THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES REQUIRES THAT THE VOTING DELEGATE BE NAMED BY EACH CITY AND THAT PERSON RECEIVES ON THEIR BADGE AT THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE A TAG THAT SAYS THEY'RE THE VOTING DELEGATE BECAUSE ONLY ONE VOTE PER CITY IS ALLOWED.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY JUST NEED IT TO BE FORMALLY RECOGNIZED.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY. NEED A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE? MOVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE FOR ADOPTION.

PLEASE VOTE. OH, SECOND.

SECOND. THANK YOU.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR HELPING WITH THAT QUESTION.

AND MAYOR, CAN WE PLEASE TAKE A BRIEF A BREAK? WE'RE EXPERIENCING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES AND WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT BEING BROADCAST.

SO IF WE COULD TAKE ABOUT A TEN MINUTE RECESS, WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL I CAN'T SEE THE CLOCK VERY WELL.

SO LET'S MAKE IT 5:30.

THANK YOU. I'M CALLING OUR MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

ITEM NUMBER NINE CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

[9. HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAM: OPTIONS TO DEVELOP A SMOKE-FREE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING ORDINANCE]

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MIKE STRONG.

MIKE, THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION.

MIKE STRONG ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

AGENDA NUMBER NINE IS FOR OPTIONS TO DEVELOP A SMOKE FREE MULTI HOUSING ORDINANCE.

CALIFORNIA ADOPTED SEVERAL SMOKE-FREE AIR LAWS REGULATING HOSPITALS, RESTAURANTS, BARS, WORKPLACES, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, RETAIL STORES, RECREATIONAL AND CULTURAL FACILITIES AND CHILD CARE FACILITIES.

IN ADDITION TO THE STATE SMOKING PROHIBITIONS, THE CITY HAS ENACTED THE FOLLOWING SMOKE FREE AIR LAWS.

MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 11.32 PROHIBITS SMOKING IN PUBLIC PARKS, TRAILS AND BEACHES.

CHAPTER 6.14 PROHIBITS SMOKING WITHIN 20FT OF OUTDOOR DINING AREAS.

CHAPTER 6.18 PROHIBITS SMOKING OF ELECTRONIC CIGARETS IN ANY LOCATION THAT SMOKING TOBACCO IS PROHIBITED AND SECTION 8.90 PROHIBITS CANNABIS USE IN ANY PUBLIC PLACE.

THOSE ORDINANCES ARE INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENTS TO THE STAFF REPORT EXHIBITS TWO THROUGH FIVE.

DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAST HOUSING ELEMENT, THE CITY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY, SAN DIEGO HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AGENCY REQUESTING THAT ANTI SMOKING POLICIES BE ADDED.

THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERED THE COUNTY'S REQUEST AND DIRECTED STAFF TO ADD THE PROGRAM TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

THAT WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE IS INCLUDED AS EXHIBIT ONE.

AS A RESULT OF THE ADOPTION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, THERE IS A PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES THIS VERY CONVERSATION AND THIS PRESENTATION AND STAFF REPORT CHECKS THAT BOX IN TERMS OF COMPLIANCE PROGRAM COMPLIANCE.

SO THIS ITEM IS FOR DISCUSSION ITEM DISCUSSION ONLY.

THERE IS NO FORMAL ACTION TAKEN TONIGHT.

THERE IS NO IRREVOCABLE ACTION THAT WOULD BE TAKEN TONIGHT SO THE COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THEIR MIND AT A LATER DATE.

SO THE THREE OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF IS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON THIS EVENING IS OPTION ONE NO

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CITY COUNCIL COULD DIRECT STAFF TO WORK ON AN ORDINANCE LATER IN THE FUTURE.

OPTION TWO IS TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE WITH COMPLETE PROHIBITION.

SO THAT WOULD BE BANNING BOTH INDOOR AND EXTERIOR SPACES OF MULTIFAMILY UNIT PROPERTIES.

AND OPTION THREE IS TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT IS CUSTOM TAILORED FOR THE CITY.

SO THERE ARE AGENCIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED PARTIAL PROHIBITIONS IN MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

SO GAINING AN UNDERSTANDING THROUGH STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT TO STEER THE PROCESS OF WHAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED.

AND THE STAFF REPORT DOES ANNOTATE SEVERAL OF THOSE OPTIONS.

THERE ARE 79 CALIFORNIA CITIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED 100% SMOKE FREE AIR REQUIREMENTS, ACCORDING TO A RECENT REPORT PREPARED BY THE AMERICAN NONSMOKERS RIGHTS FOUNDATION ANOTHER 17 HAVE RESTRICTED SMOKING INSIDE SOME PRIVATE UNITS OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

THAT REPORT IS INCLUDED AS EXHIBIT SIX TO THE STAFF REPORT.

NO LOCAL CITIES HAVE ADOPTED SMOKE-FREE AIR REQUIREMENTS FOR INSIDE MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

THE CLOSEST AGENCY TO THE SAN DIEGO REGION IS THE CITY OF TEMECULA.

PROPERTY OWNERS AND PROPERTY MANAGERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOLUNTARILY MAKE THEIR PROPERTY SMOKE FREE.

THERE ARE SOME INCENTIVES IN DOING SO.

AND THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY, THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED PROPERTY OR PROPERTY OBSOLESCENCE.

AND SO THAT IS WHERE THERE IS A UNIT OF BECOME OF DISREPAIR DUE TO A LACK OF MAINTENANCE OR NEGLECT.

AND SO THERE'S AN INCENTIVE TO KEEP THOSE PROPERTIES UP KEPT AND FREE.

SO MANY OF THE EXISTING LEASE AGREEMENTS, EVEN THOSE PROVIDED BY THE SAN DIEGO OR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, DO PROVIDE LEASE TEMPLATES TO ITS MEMBERS THAT DO INCLUDE SMOKE FREE AIR LAW POLICIES AND PROVISIONS.

THOSE ARE ONLY PRIVATELY ENFORCED AND WOULDN'T NECESSARILY INVOLVE THE CITY.

SO AT THIS POINT AND CONTINUATION OF THE STAFF REPORT, THE PRESENTATION STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK THIS EVENING ON WHAT TO DO NEXT.

THAT CONCLUDES. THANKS. HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? 12. OKAY.

PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.

MELANIE WOODS, FOLLOWED BY JACKSON CARLISLE.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

I'M MELANIE WOODS, VICE PRESIDENT OF LOCAL PUBLIC AFFAIRS WITH THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.

CAA IS A STATEWIDE NONPROFIT TRADE ASSOCIATION SERVING RENTAL HOUSING OWNERS, OPERATORS AND PROVIDERS.

OUR MEMBERS PROVIDE HOMES TO NEARLY 65,000 LOCAL SAN DIEGO COUNTY FAMILIES.

OUR MEMBERSHIP IS DIVERSE, REPRESENTING INDIVIDUAL MOM AND POP OWNERS AND SOME OF THE LARGEST APARTMENT OPERATORS.

EDUCATION AND COMPLIANCE ARE AT THE HEART OF OUR MISSION AT CAA.

CAA HOPES TO WORK WITH YOU ON AN ORDINANCE THAT BALANCES THE HEALTH AND SAFETY NEEDS OF RESIDENTS WITH THE OPERATIONAL LIMITATIONS OF PROVIDERS.

WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF OPTION THREE TODAY, WHICH WE BELIEVE STRIKES THE RIGHT BALANCE.

THERE IS NO DATA TO SHOW THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THE INDUSTRY IS ALREADY PROACTIVELY MOVING TOWARDS SMOKE FREE HOUSING.

QUITE FRANKLY, MANY RESIDENTS PREFER TO LIVE IN A SMOKE FREE ENVIRONMENT.

AND AS THE STAFF REPORT MENTIONED, OUR STANDARD LEASE INCLUDES A SMOKE FREE ADDENDUM.

ADDITIONALLY, A SMOKE FREE ENVIRONMENT HELPS REDUCE INSURANCE PREMIUMS. SINCE THE MARKET IS VOLUNTARILY MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION, THERE'S NO NEED TO SPEND SCARCE CITY RESOURCES IMPLEMENTING AND ENFORCING A BAN.

AS YOUR STAFF REPORT STATES, A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN WOULD BE NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT LANDLORDS, PARTICULARLY THOSE NOT REPRESENTED BY TRADE ORGANIZATIONS, WOULD BE AWARE OF THIS CHANGE IN POLICY.

CAA WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER TWO KEY IDEAS WITH ANY ORDINANCE THAT MOVES FORWARD.

FIRST, CONSIDER GRANDFATHERING IN CURRENT LEASE AGREEMENTS.

SAN DIEGO COUNTY IS FACING A HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS CRISIS, AND A SMOKING BAN COULD CAUSE FURTHER DISPLACEMENT OF LONG STANDING RESIDENTS IN MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

ADDITIONALLY, LANDLORDS AND PROPERTY MANAGERS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE THE SMOKING POLICE.

THIS PLACE IS AN UNDUE BURDEN AND LIABILITY ON THE HOUSING PROVIDER.

HOUSING PROVIDERS CAN INCLUDE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN THEIR LEASES AND THEY CAN POST SIGNAGE AT PROPERTIES, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT THEIR RESIDENTS DO WITHIN

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THERE ARE NOTICING REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT PROPERTY MANAGERS FROM ENTERING A UNIT IF THEY SMELL SMOKE.

HOUSING PROVIDERS SHOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OR BE HELD LIABLE WHEN THEIR RESIDENTS WILLFULLY IGNORE THE LAW.

CAA SUPPORTS A BALANCED APPROACH, AND WE HOPE TO PARTNER WITH YOU ON EFFORTS TO CURTAIL SECOND HAND SMOKE IN MULTIFAMILY HOUSING WITHOUT THE REGULATORY BURDEN OF A COMPLETE PROHIBITION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD EVENING. HI, MY NAME IS JACKSON CARLISLE.

I ATTEND LA COSTA CANYON AND I AM IN 10TH GRADE AND I PLAY FOOTBALL.

I ALSO STRUGGLE WITH ASTHMA, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU MY DAILY ISSUES WITH VAPING.

MY EXPERIENCES IS WHEN I GO TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY I STRUGGLE TO BREATHE WHEN I'M IN THE RESTROOMS FILLED WITH CLOUDS OF SMOKE AND FLAVORED AIR.

IT SMELLS LIKE WHEN YOU'RE IN DOWNTOWN SOME OF THOSE SWEET SPOTS.

SORRY, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.

I THINK THAT I TOO SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE ON NOT TO BREATHE IN CHEMICALS FROM OTHER STUDENTS WHO CHOOSE TO VAPE AT SCHOOL IN OR OUT.

FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN MULTI-UNIT HOUSING, I SUPPORT THEM AND I SUPPORT SMOKE FREE HOUSEHOLDS.

THEY. SORRY.

THEY ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS ALONG WITH ME.

I'M GOING TO GO OFF SCRIPT BECAUSE I HAVE THINGS TO SAY.

WELL, EVERY DAY AT SCHOOL, EVEN WHEN I GO TO THE BATHROOMS, I CAN VIVIDLY SEE SMOKE, I CAN SMELL SMOKE.

I KNOW TO AVOID CERTAIN PLACES AT CERTAIN TIMES BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT NOT GOOD FOR ME TO BE THERE, EVEN WITH MY LUNG CAPACITY, WITH MY ASTHMA, EVEN FOR A SECOND WITH THE CONTACT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COULD DO TO MYSELF, LET ALONE DO TO OTHERS.

THIS. SORRY.

AT SCHOOL I SEE THE EFFECT IT TAKES ON OTHER KIDS.

I SEE HOW IT CHANGES THEIR PERSONALITIES AND A FIRST HAND BETTER THAN MOST.

AND I SEE HOW IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED AND HOW IT NEEDS TO BE PUT TO A STOP.

THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, TOO.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK TO AS OF RIGHT NOW.

THESE KIDS AT MY SCHOOL JUST NEED A HAND ON THEM.

THEY NEED HELP ON THEM.

THERE THIS SMOKING THAT THEY DO, IT'S NOT GOOD.

IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR ANYBODY, EVEN THOSE WHO AREN'T DOING IT.

THEY SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO SMELL IT, TO SEE IT EVEN IN A PUBLIC ENVIRONMENT SUCH AS SCHOOL.

IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING NERVOUS, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

KATRINA PREECE, FOLLOWED BY JOHN BYRUM.

GOOD EVENING. CITY COUNCIL MAYOR BLACKBURN.

I AM KATRINA PREECE.

I'M A PARENT OF THREE TEENS AND ALSO A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER.

I CAME TONIGHT TO ADD MY VOICE OF SUPPORT TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO, WHICH READS, QUOTE, DIRECT STAFF TO DEVELOP A COMPLETE SMOKING PROHIBITION IN MULTIFAMILY HOUSING UNITS AND OUTDOOR COMMON AREAS AND RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATIONS.

AS A CONCERNED NEIGHBOR, PARENT AND TEACHER, LAST YEAR I BEGAN FOLLOWING ON THE NEXTDOOR APP THE UNFOLDING STORIES REGARDING MARIJUANA AND TOBACCO, SECONDHAND SMOKE BEING AN UNWELCOME INTRUSION TO RESIDENTS LIVING IN THE CARLSBAD APARTMENTS AND CONDOS.

I'M REMINDED THAT DEATH AND DISEASE CAUSED BY PRODUCTS THAT ARE SMOKED AND VAPED ARE STILL THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AND PREVENTABLE DISEASE IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND FOR MINORITY COMMUNITIES WHO DISPROPORTIONATELY LIVE IN MULTI UNIT HOUSING COMPLEXES AND FOR WHOM HEALTH CARE IS ALSO MINIMAL POOR AIR QUALITY HAS BEEN DEVASTATING.

MY RESEARCH FOUND THAT IT IS ESTIMATED THAT 10% OF THE POPULATION HAS STRONG ALLERGIC REACTIONS TO TOBACCO AND MARIJUANA SMOKE AND SMELL.

THIS IS MORE THAN AN ANNOYANCE.

IT IS PAINFUL AND A ALARMING HEALTH HAZARD, AS WE JUST HEARD FROM THAT TEENAGER AND FOR COUNTLESS OTHERS, IT IS A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE NUISANCE.

AMERICAN HEART REMINDS US THAT, QUOTE, INHALING TOBACCO AND MARIJUANA SMOKE HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH HEART MUSCLE DYSFUNCTION, CHEST PAIN, HEART ATTACKS, HEART RHYTHM DISTURBANCES, SUDDEN CARDIAC DEATH AND OTHER SERIOUS CARDIOVASCULAR CONDITIONS.

INHALING TOBACCO MARIJUANA SMOKE HAS BEEN SHOWN TO INCREASE THE CONCENTRATIONS OF POISONOUS CARBON MONOXIDE AND TAR IN THE BLOOD.

I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THE ELIMINATION OF SECONDHAND TOBACCO SMOKE AND VAPE VAPOR FROM SPACES WHERE RESIDENTS LIVE IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYONE

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POOR HEALTH COSTS MONEY AND DEPLETES PUBLIC HEALTH AND MEDICAL RESOURCES.

NOW WOULD BE THE BEST TIME FOR THE CITY TO CONSIDER A BAN OF MARIJUANA AND TOBACCO SMOKING AND VAPING IN SHARED SPACES WHERE ONE RESIDENT'S POOR HEALTH CHOICE TO SMOKE OR VAPE SEVERELY AFFECTS THE HEALTH OF THE NEIGHBORS.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JOHN BYRUM AND I AM A PREVENTION SPECIALIST FOR VISTA COMMUNITY CLINICS ALCOHOL AND OTHER DRUG PROGRAMS AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF NORTH COASTAL PREVENTION COALITION WHO WILL BE ACTUALLY CELEBRATING THEIR 30TH YEAR WORKING IN CARLSBAD, OCEANSIDE AND VISTA ON OCTOBER 5TH AND HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER POLICY OPTIONS REGARDING SMOKING IN MULTI-UNIT HOUSING COMMUNITIES.

AS YOU CONSIDER DIFFERENT POLICY OPTIONS, I AM HOPING THAT ANY POLICY WOULD BE 100%, 100% SMOKE FREE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE PROHIBITING TOBACCO VAPE AND MARIJUANA SMOKING.

AS MORE AND MORE RESEARCH IS CONDUCTED, IT IS EVIDENT THAT SECOND HAND MARIJUANA SMOKE EITHER BURNED OR VAPED CONTAINS MANY OF THE SAME CHEMICALS AND HEAVY METALS THAT SECOND HAND SMOKE AND VAPE CONTAIN AND CAN DECREASE INDOOR AIR QUALITY TO AN UNHEALTHY LEVELS.

THIS CAN BE PARTICULARLY HARMFUL TO PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC ILLNESSES, CONDITIONS LIKE ASTHMA, WITH CHILDREN AND ELDERLY BEING ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE IN THESE SITUATIONS.

IN FACT, PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPOSED TO SECONDHAND MARIJUANA SMOKE CAN HAVE DETECTABLE LEVELS OF THC IN THEIR BLOOD AND URINE WITHOUT EVEN SMOKING IT THEMSELVES.

EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO NOT ONLY CLEAN, FRESH AIR, BUT SAFE AND HEALTHY HOME FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

I HOPE HEALTH AND WELL BEING, THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF CARLSBAD RESIDENTS WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN DETERMINING THE BEST SMOKE FREE POLICY FOR THE CITY.

I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION YOU NEED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

KELLY MCCORMICK, FOLLOWED BY PEGGY WALKER.

GOOD EVENING. THIS IS KELLY MCCORMICK.

I'M A PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATOR WITH SAN DIEGUITO ALLIANCE FOR DRUG FREE YOUTH, AND I'M A 20 YEAR RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THIS AS PART OF THE CURRENT HOUSING ELEMENT.

WE URGE THE CITY TO SUPPORT A 100% SMOKE FREE ORDINANCE FOR ALL MULTI UNIT HOUSING IN CARLSBAD.

IT WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY CHILDREN WHO SUFFER THE MOST FROM THE EFFECTS OF SECOND HAND AND THIRD HAND SMOKE.

AS THE STAFF REPORT INDICATES, SECOND HAND SMOKE EXPOSES NONSMOKERS TO HARMFUL CHEMICALS AND LINGERING RESIDUE THAT MAKES THEIR HOMES AN UNHEALTHY PLACE TO BE.

THERE'S REALLY NO ESCAPE.

EVEN EXPENSIVE FILTERS ARE NOT ADEQUATE TO CLEAN THE AIR OR ELIMINATE THE RESIDUE.

MANY OF CARLSBAD'S MULTI UNIT HOUSING OWNERS RECOGNIZE THE FINANCIAL AND HEALTH BENEFITS OF SMOKE FREE PROPERTIES AND HAVE ALREADY DESIGNATED THEM AS SMOKE FREE. BUT IT'S NOT THE CASE FOR ALL OF THEM.

SAN DIEGUITO ALLIANCE HAS RECEIVED MANY CALLS OVER THE YEARS FROM RESIDENTS WHO ARE SUBJECTED TO SECOND HAND SMOKE, AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE THEY CAN DO TO GET RELIEF WITHOUT A CITY ORDINANCE.

A SINGLE MOM CALLED ME RECENTLY BECAUSE HER 11 YEAR OLD WAS FREQUENTLY SICK AND CONGESTED FROM THE SMOKE COMING INTO HIS BEDROOM THROUGH THE VENT.

THE FILTERS SHE BOUGHT AT GREAT PERSONAL COST TO HER DID NOT WORK, WELL THEY WORKED, BUT THEY DIDN'T HELP.

AND SHE HAD RECENTLY PURCHASED HER CONDO AND COULD NOT AFFORD TO MOVE.

WITHOUT A CITYWIDE SMOKE FREE ORDINANCE AND WITHOUT THE HELP OF HER CONDOMINIUM HOA, THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING SHE COULD DO ABOUT THE SITUATION.

A SMOKE FREE ORDINANCE IS A WIN WIN FOR THE CITY, FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, AND FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO DO BENEFIT FINANCIALLY FROM MAKING THAT DECISION.

THANK YOU RESPECTFULLY, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

GOOD EVENING. I'M PEGGY WALKER AND I AM A POLICY RESEARCH ANALYST FOR SAN DIEGUITO ALLIANCE FOR DRUG FREE YOUTH.

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AND I WOULD LIKE TO SALUTE THE YOUNG MAN WHO STOOD UP IN SMOKE.

HE IS EXACTLY THE REASON THAT WE PROMOTE SMOKE FREE MULTI-UNIT HOUSING AND SMOKE FREE PUBLIC PLACES.

IN THE PAST WE HAVE WRITTEN TOBACCO USE PREVENTION, EDUCATION GRANTS AND PROGRAMS FOR SCHOOL, AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT SMOKE FREE MUH. I CAME TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO CHOOSE OPTION NUMBER TWO A TOTAL PROHIBITION OF SMOKE SMOKING IN MUH.

AND AND HERE'S WHY.

WE SPEND 69% OF OUR TIME AT HOME, AND HOME IS THE PLACE WHERE CHILDREN ARE MOST EXPOSED TO SECOND HAND SMOKE.

ACCORDING TO THE SURGEON GENERAL, NO AMOUNT OF SECOND HAND SMOKE IS SAFE AND EVERYONE DESERVES TO BE FREE AND PROTECTED FROM THAT SMOKE BECAUSE TOXIC SMOKE SEEPS INTO MUH UNITS AND INCREASES THE RISK FOR RESPIRATORY DISEASES.

IT'S A LEADING CAUSE OF SUDDEN INFANT DEATH SYNDROME SIDS.

YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT.

BECAUSE LOW INCOME FAMILIES, MINORITIES AND THE ELDERLY ARE MORE LIKELY TO LIVE IN MUH.

THESE POPULATIONS ARE AT HIGHER RISK FOR EXPOSURE.

EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS THE RIGHT TO BE FREE FROM HARMFUL SMOKE TOXINS THAT AFFECT US IN OUR EVERYDAY LIFE, OUR SLEEP, AND OUR PRECIOUS HEALTH.

A WASHINGTON, D.C.

JUDGE RECENTLY RULED IN FAVOR OF A PLAINTIFF WHO SUED HER MUH NEIGHBOR OVER SEEPING MARIJUANA SMOKE.

AND I THINK SHE STATED IT BEST WHEN SHE SAID THE PUBLIC INTEREST IS BEST SERVED BY ELIMINATING THE SMOKING NUISANCE AND TOXINS IT DEPOSITS INTO THE AIR.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU, PLEASE DON'T BE LATE BE WAYLAID BY CONCERNS THAT SMOKE FREE LAWS MAY BE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE.

THESE LAWS SET A COMMUNITY STANDARD AND PROVIDE OPTIMUM PUBLIC HEALTH PROTECTION.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

JENNIFER GILL, FOLLOWED BY CALEB HODGINS.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JENNIFER GILL AND I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER OF VISTA COMMUNITY CLINICS TOBACCO CONTROL PROGRAM.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING SMOKE FREE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING POLICY OPTIONS FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AS YOU KNOW, EXPOSURE TO SECONDHAND SMOKE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVER 40,000 DEATHS IN THE US EACH YEAR.

SECONDHAND SMOKE CAN TRAVEL THROUGH WALLS, ELECTRICAL OUTLETS AND VENTILATION SYSTEMS AND ANY RESIDENTS THAT SHARES A WALL WITH ANOTHER RESIDENCE IS ALSO SHARING AIR.

ACCORDING TO THE 2021 CENSUS DATA, ABOUT 30% OF HOUSING UNITS IN CARLSBAD WERE MULTI-UNIT HOUSING OR MULTI-UNIT HOUSING UNITS AND POLICIES THAT PROHIBIT SMOKING AND VAPING FOR THESE COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING APARTMENTS, CONDOS AND TOWNHOMES, WILL PROVIDE EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY A SAFE AND HEALTHY LIVING ARRANGEMENT, DESPITE WHETHER OR NOT THEY OWN THEIR RESIDENCE.

AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AS OF JULY 1ST, THERE ARE 79 MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT HAVE A POLICY THAT PROHIBITS SMOKING IN 100% OF PRIVATE UNITS OF RENTAL MULTI UNIT HOUSING PROPERTIES.

OF THOSE, 72 HAVE LAWS THAT PROHIBIT SMOKING IN 100% OF PRIVATE UNITS OF BOTH RENTAL AND OWNER OCCUPIED MULTI UNIT HOUSING PROPERTIES.

THERE ARE VARIOUS DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT PROTOCOLS FOR EACH MUNICIPALITY BASED ON DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT WORK BEST FOR THEIR JURISDICTION.

I HAVE A PACKET FOR YOU WITH VARIOUS RESOURCES FOR YOUR REVIEW, INCLUDING PUBLIC HEALTH LAW CENTERS, SMOKE FREE, MULTI UNIT HOUSING MODEL POLICY AND ENFORCEMENT GUIDE THAT JURISDICTIONS CAN USE WHEN DETERMINING THE BEST OPTIONS FOR EQUITABLE ENFORCEMENT.

MANY CITIES INCORPORATE A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO ENFORCEMENT THAT INVOLVES A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY, PROPERTY MANAGERS, HOAS AND OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT CAN ASSIST WITH THE PROCESS.

ALSO INCLUDED IN THE PACKET ARE KEY FINDINGS FROM A PUBLIC OPINION SURVEY THAT WE CONDUCTED IN 2021 TO DETERMINE HOW CARLSBAD RESIDENTS FELT ABOUT SMOKE FREE POLICIES IN MULTI UNIT HOUSING.

WE HAD JUST UNDER 250 RESIDENTS RESPOND TO THE SURVEY, MANY OF WHICH LIVED IN THESE TYPES OF COMMUNITIES.

IN FACT, 56% OF THOSE LIVING IN MULTI-UNIT HOUSING HAD EXPERIENCED EXPOSURE TO SECONDHAND SMOKE FROM NEIGHBORING UNITS.

AND OVERALL, 72% OF ALL CARLSBAD RESIDENTS THAT COMPLETED THE SURVEY SUPPORTED A CITYWIDE POLICY THAT WOULD MAKE MULTI UNIT HOUSING COMPLETELY SMOKE FREE.

AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONSIDERING SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.

PLEASE KEEP VISTA COMMUNITY CLINIC IN MIND.

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PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO GET IN TOUCH FOR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND MY GREETINGS AND MY GRATITUDE TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

THE WORK THAT YOU EACH.

EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. SIR WILL YOU PLEASE TALK A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? THANK YOU. MY FAULT. ALL RIGHT.

SO FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND MY GREETINGS AND MY GRATITUDE TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR EACH DOING YOUR PART TO KEEP OUR CITY SAFE.

YOUR WORK HASN'T GONE UNNOTICED.

MY NAME IS CALEB.

I CURRENTLY AM A SENIOR AT SAGE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING THE NORTH COUNTY NAACP YOUTH COUNCIL, AS WELL AS CLEAN EARTH FOR KIDS AND MY BLACK STUDENT UNION. TONIGHT, I HUMBLY REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE YES ON AGENDA ITEM NINE, OPTION TWO FOR SMOKE FREE MULTI UNIT HOUSING FAMILY HOUSING IN CARLSBAD. HUMANITY POSSESSES FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS AND REQUIREMENTS, ONE OF WHICH IS HAVING CLEAN AIR TO BREATHE.

IN ORDER FOR OUR CHILDREN'S MINDS TO PROPERLY DEVELOP.

BUT IT ISN'T JUST FOR THEM.

IT'S FOR THEIR PARENTS SO THAT THEY MAY PROTECT AND PROVIDE FOR THEM.

AND IT IS FOR THEIR GRANDPARENTS SO THAT THEY MAY ENJOY THE TIME THEY HAVE LEFT WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.

EVERYONE EVERY FAMILY IN THIS CITY DESERVES TO LIVE WELL AND LIVE HEALTHILY, UNBURDENED BY THE SPIKED SHACKLES OF SECONDHAND SMOKE.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, AIR POLLUTION IS A GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS.

AS THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION STATED, IT'S THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL RISK TO HUMAN RIGHTS AND TO HUMAN HEALTH.

IT CAUSES THE RATES OF CANCER, ALZHEIMER'S, PARKINSON'S, DEMENTIA AND ASTHMA TO SKYROCKET.

THE LAST OF WHICH I AM DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY, AS ARE MANY OF MY PEERS.

WHEN I WAS SMALL, MY FAMILY HAD TO MAKE COUNTLESS TRIPS TO THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE MY ASTHMA WAS RELENTLESS.

AND WHEN THE NEXT GENERATION IS EXPOSED TO AIR POLLUTION EARLY ON IN THEIR LIVES, IT WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY LEAD TO THE ONSET OF ASTHMA, WHICH IS THE THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF HOSPITALIZATIONS AMONG CHILDREN UNDER 15.

EVERY YEAR ACROSS THE STATE, SECONDHAND SMOKE CAUSES ROUGHLY 30,000 ASTHMA ATTACKS, WHILE ALSO CAUSING EAR AND RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS.

SECONDHAND SMOKE CAN ALSO BRING ABOUT SUDDEN INFANT DEATH, SUDDEN INFANT DEATH SYNDROME, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, SOMETHING NO PARENT SHOULD EVER HAVE TO BE FAMILIAR WITH. VOTING YES ON OPTION TWO WILL HELP SHIELD OUR CITY FROM TOXIC SMOKE IN MULTI-UNIT FAMILY HOUSING AND OUTDOOR SPACES.

SECOND AND THIRD HAND SMOKE GOES THROUGH WALLS, OUTLETS AND DOORWAYS, AND IT CANNOT BE STOPPED BY ANY CONVENTIONAL AIR CLEANING METHODS.

SMOKING ALSO COSTS OUR SOCIETY BILLIONS, ACCORDING TO THE CDC SMOKING COSTS THE US MORE THAN $600 BILLION IN 2018, INCLUDING $240 BILLION IN HEALTH CARE AND NEARLY $185 BILLION IN LOST PRODUCTIVITY.

AND ANOTHER $7 BILLION WENT OUT THE WINDOW TO TWO OTHER SECONDHAND SMOKE RELATED CAUSES.

WE NEED YOUR HELP TO SAVE OUR COMMUNITY.

WE NEED YOU TO VOTE YES.

MIKE YDIGORAS, FOLLOWED BY YOLANDA SMITH.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING THIS TODAY.

MY PREFERENCE IS FOR NUMBER TWO FOR THE PROHIBITION.

BUT I SEE RATIONALE ALSO FOR NUMBER THREE, BACKTRACKING TO 2020 THE AARP ENDORSED THE CITY AS PART OF THE AGE FRIENDLY NETWORK PENDING THE CREATION OF THE ACTION PLAN THAT I GUESS THE CITY IS STILL WORKING ON.

SO I THINK THIS WOULD IS BEFITTING ONE OF THE ACTION PLANS FOR A HEALTHIER CARLSBAD.

AND THE REASON WHY BETWEEN OPTION TWO AND OPTION THREE IS WITH THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA IT THIS EVERYBODY THINKS THE SMELL IS ENOUGH TO COVER OTHER ILLICIT DRUG USE.

I PERSONALLY AM A HEART FAILURE PATIENT AND MY MEDICATION KEEPS MY HEART RATE VERY LOW.

BUT I EXPERIENCED IN CARLSBAD SECONDHAND SMOKE THAT WAS NOT JUST SOMEBODY SMOKING A JOINT FOR A FEW MINUTES BEFORE GOING ON TO PONTO

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WE TRIED TO GET LANDLORDS TO ADDRESS IT THROUGH THE NUISANCE CLAUSES OF THE LEASES, BUT TO NO AVAIL, BECAUSE THEY FELT THERE WAS NO ORDINANCE AGAINST SMOKING.

WHY I SAY OPTION THREE IS THAT THE TENANTS WERE ACTUALLY FOR ME, IT HAD A HAPPY ENDING.

I MOVED TO A NON VAPING NON SMOKING PROPERTY AT NIGHT AND DAY QUALITY OF LIFE IS IS MUCH BETTER NOW, BUT DURING THE MONTHS THAT I WAS THERE I WAS AT HIGH RISK ESSENTIALLY.

MY DOCTOR DOCUMENTED ALSO AND WE HAD SWAB TESTING OF THE WALLS SHOWING THAT IT WASN'T JUST MARIJUANA SMOKE, BUT THERE WAS MIXED IN AND AMPHETAMINES AND FENTANYL WITH THE CONTAMINANTS THAT WERE ENTERING.

BUT THERE WAS A THE DIRECTION OF THE LANDLORD WAS, DON'T SMOKE ON YOUR BALCONY.

DON'T SMOKE WHERE OUT THE WINDOW WHERE IT CAN BLOW AWAY, BUT GO INTO YOUR BATHROOMS AND SMOKE SO THAT THE VENTING OR AT THE KITCHEN VENTS IT WILL VENT OUT.

BUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SHARE WALLS IS THE VENTILATION ACTUALLY WAS PUMPING IN TO THE ADJOINING UNITS.

SO WE'D COME HOME TO A RESIDENCE THAT WAS FILLED WITH SMOKE OR WE WERE THERE USUALLY BETWEEN 9 AND 11 P.M.

DURING THE SMOKE OUTS EVERY NIGHT.

SO THE REASON FOR OPTION THREE WOULD BE MAYBE LIKE HOSPITALS BEFORE THEY BECAME TOTALLY NONSMOKING, THEY USED TO HAVE THE 20 TO 25 FOOT RULE WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO SMOKE THEIR CIGARETTES AWAY FROM THE ENTRANCES.

SO AND I REMEMBER IN 2012, CARLSBAD WITH THE RESTAURANTS, THE IDEA WAS [INAUDIBLE].

SIR YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS YOLANDA SMITH AND I'M JUST GOING TO SHARE MY STORY.

LAST YEAR I WON A WOMAN OF ACHIEVEMENT AWARD AND I DID NOT GET TO WEAR MY CROWN AND PARTICIPATE IN ANYTHING IN THE COMMUNITY.

I PURCHASED A CONDO IN CARLSBAD IN 2019.

LAST YEAR A YOUNG MEN MOVED IN AND RIGHT AWAY STARTED SMOKING.

FOR ME, THE PROBLEM WITH I DON'T CARE IF YOU SMOKE, I DON'T CARE IF THEY SMOKE SKUNK, I DON'T CARE.

BUT WHAT I CARE ABOUT IS THE IMPACT THAT IT WAS HAVING UPON MY LIFE, THE QUALITY OF MY LIFE AND HOW MY CLOTHES SMELLED.

I'VE NEVER SMOKED, BUT MY CLOTHING SMELLED LIKE SKUNK.

AND SO I DIDN'T GET TO ENJOY WEARING THE CROWN.

AND MY TIME IS UP THE YEAR HAS COME AND THE YEAR HAS GONE.

SO SURELY I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TO SAY PLEASE.

NUMBER TWO, I WENT TO THE VA HOSPITAL LAST YEAR PROBABLY ABOUT TEN TIMES FOR RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS. NEVER HAD A RESPIRATORY PROBLEM A DAY IN MY LIFE PRIOR TO BEING EXPOSED TO THIS SECONDHAND SMOKE.

I ENDED UP HAVING TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY.

I'M A PRETTY RESILIENT SOUL, BUT EVEN IN ALL OF MY RESILIENCE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, PEOPLE AT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE BACKING TO PUSH FOR THE COMMUNITY TO NOT SMOKE.

SO IF WE CAN VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT WHERE PEOPLE WILL FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT, MAYBE THEY WILL DO SOMETHING.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, MY NEIGHBOR ON THE THIRD LEVEL, SHE TEXTED ME, SHE GOES, OH, HE'S HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME SMOKING HIS SKUNK SMELL.

AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO.

THE CATCH 22 FOR ME IS, IS THAT I VOLUNTEER AS A VETERAN AS I AM ONE MYSELF, AND I HELP THE VETERANS DO THEIR CLAIMS. FOUND OUT THAT THE YOUNG MAN WHO LIVES BELOW ME, HE'S A VET.

I'LL NEVER GO A VET UNLESS, YOU KNOW.

I MEAN, MY FIRST THOUGHT IS NOT TO GO AGAINST THE VETERANS.

SO THAT WAS A PROBLEM IN AND OF ITSELF.

AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR TO PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXES.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.

SO I AM HERE TO SAY, HEY, IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM.

THIS RASPINESS THAT YOU HEAR IN MY VOICE.

IT WASN'T THERE BEFORE I MOVED HERE.

I SOUGHT OUT THE VISTA CLINIC.

I SOUGHT OUT SAN DIEGO AGENCY SUPPORT.

I HAD MY WALLS SWIPED AND EVERYTHING.

I DIDN'T MOVE HERE TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

I'M A NONSMOKER AND I WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO THE BEACH, BE ABLE TO BREATHE THE AIR AND SMILE UNTIL THE GOOD LORD SAYS IT'S TIME FOR ME TO COME HOME.

SO I'M ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TO SAY TO VOTE ON NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU. ESPERANZA AGUIRRE, FOLLOWED BY VANESSA FORSYTH.

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MY NAME IS ESPERANZA AGUIRRE FROM VISTA COMMUNITY CLINIC TOBACCO CONTROL CONTROL PROGRAM.

AND I'LL BE SHARING THIS COMMENT ON BEHALF OF YOUR COMMUNITY MEMBER, HOLLY LEWALLEN, WHO IS THE REGIONAL PROPERTY MANAGER FOR CHAMBERLAIN PROPERTIES.

SHE STATED, AND I QUOTE, WE HAVE SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN CARLSBAD, ALL OF WHICH ARE SMOKE FREE.

AS A PROPERTY MANAGER, I STRIVE TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY AS SAFE AND HABITABLE AS POSSIBLE.

I KNOW THAT WHERE YOU LIVE CAN HAVE TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON YOUR HEALTH.

LIVING IN MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES WHERE RESIDENTS SMOKE OR VAPE IN AND AROUND THEIR UNITS, EXPOSES OTHERS TO SECONDHAND SMOKE AND SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEMS. IN HOMES SECONDHAND SMOKE CAN TRAVEL FROM OUTDOOR AREAS AND THROUGH DOORS, WINDOWS, HALLWAYS, VENTILATION DUCTS AND THROUGH GAPS AROUND OUTLETS, FIXTURES AND WALLS, CREATING AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR RESIDENTS.

WHILE PROPERTY MANAGERS AND OWNERS AND LANDLORDS CAN VOLUNTARILY IMPLEMENT A SMOKE FREE POLICY FOR THEIR COMMUNITY, IT CAN BE CHALLENGING TO ENFORCE.

HAVING THE AUTHORITY FROM THE CITY OF CARLSBAD WILL PROVIDE AN ADDED LAYER OF AUTHORITY TO THE PROPERTY MANAGER HELPING RESIDENTS COMPLY WITH THE POLICY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I AM VANESSA FORSYTH, A CARLSBAD RESIDENT FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.

I'M ASKING FOR ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSAL NUMBER TWO, WITH A MOTION THAT DIRECTS STAFF TO AN ORDINANCE IMPOSING COMPLETE SMOKING PROHIBITION IN MULTIFAMILY HOUSING UNITS AND OR COMMON OUTDOOR AREAS.

I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE READ THE EMAILS FROM MYSELF AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS INDICATING WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY NEEDS SUCH AN ORDINANCE.

BUT BEFORE I SHARE MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MAYOR BLACKBURN AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WAS IMPRESSED THAT AT THE STATE OF THE CITY MEETING LAST WEEK, ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR SAT TOGETHER ON THE STAGE AND ALSO EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SPOKE ON AN ASPECT OF THE REPORT.

IN THE PAST, IT HAS BEEN ONLY THE MAYOR WHO SPOKE.

AND I CONSIDERED THIS FORMAT THAT YOU DID LAST WEEK SHOWED UNITY IN A WAY THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE.

SO THANK YOU.

AS A SCHOOL NURSE, I OFTEN ENCOUNTERED STUDENTS WHO HAD ASTHMA EXACERBATIONS.

ONE STUDENT, FATIMA, COMES TO MIND.

I WOULD OFTEN SEE HER 2 TO 3 TIMES DURING THE WEEK.

WHEN SHE WASN'T ONE WAS IN ATTENDANCE BECAUSE SHE WAS HAVING A HARD TIME BREATHING.

I SENT HER HOME ON FRIDAY AFTER GOING OVER HER MEDICATIONS AND SHE SEEMED TO BE GETTING BETTER WITH A REMINDER TO HER GRANDPA NOT TO SMOKE AROUND HER.

I WOULD FIND OUT ON MONDAY THAT HER ASTHMA GOT SO BAD OVER THE WEEKEND SHE NEEDED TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND HAVE TREATMENT AND WAS NOW REQUIRING A COURSE OF STEROIDS.

FATIMA WAS LIKE MANY OF MY STUDENTS WHO LIVED IN MULTI UNIT HOUSING, AND EVEN WHEN NO ONE IN THEIR HOME SMOKED, THEY WERE IMPACTED BY SECONDHAND SMOKE FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS THEY WERE NEXT TO.

ALSO, AS A HOME CARE NURSE, I WORKED WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE OXYGEN DEPENDENT WITH CHRONIC OBSTRUCTIVE PULMONARY DISEASE WHO NEVER SMOKED, BUT ANOTHER PERSON IN THEIR HOME DID.

THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION AND THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL HAVE DETERMINED THAT SECOND HAND AND THIRD HAND SMOKE CAN CAUSE CARDIAC RESPIRATORY DISEASE, AS WELL AS PREMATURE LABOR, SMALLER BIRTH WEIGHT INFANTS AND ASTHMA IN CHILDREN.

AGAIN, I ASK THAT THE COUNCIL MOVE TO ADOPT PROPOSAL NUMBER TWO WITH STAFF BRINGING PROPOSAL LANGUAGE FOR AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD BAN SECOND HAND SMOKE IN MULTI-UNIT HOUSING.

AND THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR PROVIDING A MORE SUSTAINABLE AND IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

NEXT, WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

I'LL START.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS WILL THIS APPLY TO ALL MULTIFAMILY OR ONLY OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS? IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN.

SO THERE ARE SOME AGENCIES THAT HAVE APPLIED IT TO ANY HOUSING PROJECT THAT IS OVER TWO UNITS.

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AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT HAVE APPLIED IT TO PROJECTS OF A CERTAIN SIZE, AND THERE ARE ALSO ORDINANCES THAT HAVE APPLIED IT TO CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OF THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. SO THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE ENDLESS IN TERMS OF THE APPROACH TO THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE.

AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE APARTMENT OWNERS ASSOCIATION SAID THAT A LOT OF TIMES THE APARTMENT MANAGEMENT WILL PUT IT IN THE LEASE OR HAVE POLICIES AROUND THAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK FROM APARTMENT MANAGERS ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO ENFORCE NO SMOKING BANS WHEN IT'S JUST PART OF A LEASE OR PART OF A POLICY? I BELIEVE ONE OF THE WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCES RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC AFTER PUBLICATION OF THE STAFF REPORT WAS FROM A PROPERTY MANAGER WHO EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR A LOCAL ORDINANCE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THEIR EFFORTS IN IMPLEMENTING THEIR LEASE PROVISIONS.

SO THAT IS WRITTEN TESTIMONY FROM ONE SUCH PROPERTY MANAGER.

IN PREPARATION OF THIS EVENING I REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL AGENCIES THAT ARE ON THAT LIST OF ENFORCING SMOKE FREE ORDINANCES, AND I SPOKE TO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY OF BENICIA, CITY OF BEVERLY HILLS AND THE CITY OF TEMECULA.

AND ALL OF THEM AGREED THAT ENFORCEMENT IS DIFFICULT.

BUT THE BIGGEST BENEFIT OF HAVING THE ORDINANCE IN ITS FIRST LAUNCH IS THE EDUCATION AND AWARENESS AND WORKING WITH THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATIONS AND THE PROPERTY MANAGERS TO GET THE WORD OUT. AND THAT'S THE MOST THE BIGGEST TOOL FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT IS THE EDUCATION.

THANK YOU. MRS. BHAT-PATEL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MISS ACOSTA? QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

AND THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE.

I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT SCHOOLS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE THE CITY AND NOT WE DON'T GOVERN WHAT HAPPENS ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUSES.

BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH WITH STATE LAW AND HOW LIKE WE HAVE ANY INTERACTION WITH THAT? OR JUST CLARIFY IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO HOUSING NEAR SCHOOLS? I DO BELIEVE, AND PERHAPS THE POLICE CHIEF WILL ASSIST IN THIS, BUT MOST AGENCIES DO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LOCAL SCHOOLS AND COORDINATE YOUTH ENGAGEMENT, SUCH AS SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE REPRESENTED BY THE STUDENTS THIS EVENING.

SO IN TERMS OF THE COORDINATED EFFORT OF THE CITY FOR AREAS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE CITY'S JURISDICTION, THAT ARM OF EDUCATION AND COORDINATION IS THE BEST REACH.

IF THERE ARE SCHOOLS WITH OR IN TERMS OF REGULATION, THE ITEMS THAT WERE PRESENTED TONIGHT WERE GENERALLY GEARED TO BE MORE OF A CITYWIDE APPROACH RATHER THAN SEPARATION OR BUFFER DISTANCES FROM ANY SENSITIVE LAND USES.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY CITIES THAT HAVE TRIED SUCH APPROACH.

THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN THINK OF IN TERMS OF SMOKE FREE AIR ARE THE IDLING RESTRICTIONS THAT THE STATE PLACES ON CARS WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, PICKING UP THEIR KIDS OR TRUCKS IN THOSE AREAS.

SO THAT'S THE CLOSEST THING THAT I COULD CONNECT TO ANY SMOKE FREE AIR LAWS ADJACENT TO SCHOOLS, NOT ON THE PHYSICAL CAMPUS THAT A STATE, IN THIS CASE THE STATE HAS ENTERTAINED. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS A GREAT ANSWER TO KIND OF PROBABLY AN UNEXPECTED QUESTION, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND TRYING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE THERE WERE QUESTIONS AROUND KIND OF PLACES, PLACES WHERE THERE ARE YOUTH AND ALSO QUESTIONS AROUND SENIORS AND THE AGE FRIENDLY CARLSBAD.

AND I'M WONDERING IF IN OUR AGE FRIENDLY ACTION PLAN THERE'S ANY MENTION OF AIR QUALITY OR SMOKING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT OR IF THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE HERE THAT MIGHT HAVE AN ANSWER.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO SMOKING FOR SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE SCHOOLS ARE ALL SMOKE FREE CAMPUSES.

AND THEN THE ONE OF THE ORDINANCES THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED IS A PROHIBITION OF SMOKING IN PARKS.

SO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES THAT ARE GEARED TO ALL AGES, BUT THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC TO SENIORS ARE ALSO SMOKE FREE.

OKAY. SO WE'VE TAKEN SOME STEPS TOWARDS THAT.

AND SO TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT MULTI UNIT HOUSING AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO LOOK AT KIND OF LARGER COMPLEXES OR TWO OR MORE.

AND OPTION NUMBER TWO WOULD BE A PROHIBITION ON EXISTING AND NEW MULTI UNIT HOUSING OF ANY SIZE.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THERE CAN STILL BE VARIATIONS TO THAT APPROACH.

THE FIRST SPEAKER THIS EVENING FROM THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDED TO IMPLEMENT THIS ON NEW LEASES RATHER THAN TRYING TO BREACH EXISTING LEASES.

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OKAY. AND I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE PACKET AGAIN.

I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT WERE WERE REVIEWED, THAT THERE WERE ABOUT 79 CITIES IN CALIFORNIA WITH LAWS THAT REQUIRE 100% SMOKE FREE IN PRIVATE MULTI-UNIT HOUSING.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S ANNOTATED IN EXHIBIT SIX OF THE STAFF REPORT AND BELIEVED TO BE RELIABLE.

OKAY. AND OF THE 79, WE HAVE CHECKED IN WITH THOSE THE THREE THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, BENICIA, BEVERLY HILLS AND TEMECULA.

IN THIS WEEK, I STARTED TO GO DOWN THAT LIST AND THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS I NO I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD DO MORE OR WHATEVER.

I WAS JUST WANTING TO CHECK AND SEE IF I UNDERSTOOD WHERE WE ARE WITH KIND OF EVALUATING WHERE WE FIT IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS.

AND TO BE FAIR, I DID REACH OUT TO OTHERS THOSE ARE JUST THE AGENCIES THAT RETURNED MY CALL.

AND YOU COMMUNICATED WITH, GREAT.

OKAY, SO THERE ARE 79 IN CALIFORNIA THAT CURRENTLY HAVE 100% SMOKE FREE? CORRECT. YES. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

MS. BURKHOLDER. YEAH.

THANK YOU. DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY TO SAY THAT PROPERTY OWNERS AND PROPERTY MANAGERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A NONSMOKING CLAUSE PREFERENCE LEASE AGREEMENT? AND THERE'S ALSO INCENTIVES PROVIDED WITH THAT? THAT IS COVERED BY A STATUTE THAT PROPERTY MANAGERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THAT RIGHT.

THE INCENTIVES ARE MORE OF A WARRANT OF HABITABILITY TO MAINTAIN AND PRESERVE THE UNITS AND GOOD UPKEEP AND CONDITION.

THANKS. YEAH, NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OF THOSE 79 ENTITIES THAT CITIES THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING THIS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I MAKE A DECISION ON THIS, I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW HOW IT'S GOING WITH THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THINGS. I DON'T THINK OUR CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE IN THE BUSINESS OF TELLING MR. JOE, YOU CAN SMOKE OR CAN'T SMOKE BECAUSE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OR PRESIDENT CALLED AND SAID HE'S SMOKING AGAIN.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S KIND OF OUT OF PLACE AND I DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE FOR ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT POLICY AROUND THIS PARTICULAR THING.

WHILE I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC IF WE HAVE NO SMOKING.

I JUST AM CONCERNED DEEPLY ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT.

SO IF THERE WAS SOME WAY THAT YOU COULD FIND OUT KIND OF HOW IT'S GOING IN THOSE CITIES WHERE THIS IS IMPLEMENTED, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ME PERSONALLY FOR A DECISION THAT WILL IMPACT OUR CITY, OUR BUDGET AND POTENTIALLY CPD.

THAT WAS THE GENESIS OF THE PHONE CALLS TO THE AGENCIES TO SEE HOW THINGS WERE GOING.

THE CITY OF TEMECULA ADOPTED ORDINANCE ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO.

THE OTHER CITIES THAT I CALLED BEVERLY HILLS AND BENICIA, 3 OR 4 YEARS.

SO THE DURATION OF TIME OF IMPLEMENTATION IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

ALL THREE AGENCIES REPORTED A DIFFICULTY IN IMPLEMENTING THE ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF ISSUING VIOLATIONS OR VISUALLY OBSERVING THE INCIDENT.

SO TYPICALLY WITH EITHER CODE ENFORCEMENT OR POLICE RESPONSE, THERE USUALLY IS SOME EFFORT TO GATHER AND DOCUMENT SUBSTANTIATE THE EVIDENCE, EITHER THROUGH A VISUAL OBSERVATION OR OTHER RECORD.

WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY WOULD TYPICALLY RECEIVE A CALL.

AND IF THE SMOKING IS OCCURRING AFTER HOURS, IT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL THE NEXT DAY THAT THERE WOULD BE A CITY RESPONSE TO THE PROPERTY.

SO AT THAT POINT, SMOKING IS REALLY TEMPORAL, RIGHT? IT'S IN THAT MOMENT AND THEN IT'S DONE.

SO THERE ARE CASES WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN RESPONSES.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE PRESENTATION, THE BEST TOOL IS WITH EDUCATION.

SO THE TYPICAL RESPONSE, THERE'S EITHER A WARNING OR SOME LEAFLET OR PAPERWORK LEFT AT THAT PROPERTY OWNER OR WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGER OR THAT RENTER THAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD EDUCATE THEM ABOUT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A PERMISSIBLE AREA TO SMOKE EITHER ON THE PROPERTY IF THE LOCAL AGENCY OR PROPERTY MANAGER ALLOWS IT, OR TO OFFER OTHER WAYS OF COMPLIANCE.

SO WITH THE CITIES THAT I CALLED, THEY ALL INDICATED THAT ENFORCEMENT WAS THE BEST TOOL.

NONE OF THE AGENCIES PURSUED ANY SPECIAL WARRANTS TO ENTER ANYONE'S PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER EXTENT OF ENFORCEMENT IS BEING ABLE TO ENTER A PRIVATE RESIDENCE. THE CITY OR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD NEED TO EITHER OBTAIN A WARRANT OR A GIVEN RIGHT TO ENTRY.

SO THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN FOR A SMOKING VIOLATION.

SO THE THREE AGENCIES REPORTED TO ME THAT THE BEST TOOL WAS EDUCATION AND LEAVING INFORMATION BEHIND, SPEAKING TO PEOPLE DIRECTLY ABOUT WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S UNLAWFUL.

AND THAT SEEMS TO HAVE FACILITATED COMPLIANCE IN MOST OF THOSE INSTANCES.

I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. MISS LUNA QUESTIONS.

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BUT IF YOU'RE READY FOR COMMENTS.

OH, WE'LL GET TO YOU ON THAT ONE.

SO I'LL START WITH THE COMMENTS.

I HAPPEN TO BE AN APARTMENT OWNER AND I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT APARTMENT OWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT.

BUT ONE OF MY EXPERIENCES OVER THE YEARS WITH MANAGEMENT IS WHEN WE HAVE A POLICY OR IT'S WRITTEN INTO THE LEASE AND THE MANAGER, WHETHER THEY WANT TO BE AN AGGRESSIVE MANAGER OR JUST A VERY PASSIVE MANAGER WHEN THEY TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SMOKING. THEY DON'T SEEM TO RESPOND VERY WELL BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO TEETH TO WE HAVE A POLICY ABOUT SMOKING, AND A LOT OF TIMES MANAGERS DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A CONFRONTATION BECAUSE IT'S JUST A POLICY OR IT'S JUST IN THE LEASE AND THEY KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EVICT THEM FOR SMOKING.

SO I LOOKED AT THIS AND I THOUGHT, AT LEAST FOR THE MANAGERS, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A TOOL.

IF THEY TRY AND TRY AND TALK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT NOT SMOKING AND THEY DON'T ABIDE BY THE MANAGER'S REQUEST, THE MANAGER WILL THEN HAVE AT LEAST THIS TOOL TO SAY, LISTEN, IT'S NOT ME, IT IS THE CITY ORDINANCE THAT'S GOING TO THAT HAS THE TEETH.

AND THEN THAT WAY THE MANAGER CAN BLAME IT ON THE CITY AND THAT'S FINE.

THEY'LL HAVE A BETTER A LITTLE BIT BETTER ARGUMENT.

I HAVE SEEN THIS OVER AND OVER AND IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN THE TOPIC OF FIGHTS AND ARGUMENTS WITHIN APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND I'VE SEEN PERSONALLY FIRSTHAND.

SO IF I'VE SEEN IT, I'M GUESSING IT'S HAPPENED QUITE A FEW TIMES.

I WOULD LIKE TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE SMOKING.

BUT I ALSO SHARE THE CONCERN WITH HOW IS IT GOING TO BE ENFORCED.

I DON'T LIKE PASSING LAWS THAT CAN'T BE ENFORCED.

AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POLICE OFFICERS AND WARRANTS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE FIRST TIME WE START HAVING TO DO THAT, THEN I'LL BRING IT BACK AND SAY, WELL, I DON'T EVEN WANT THIS ORDINANCE ANYMORE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE OUR POLICE OFFICERS OFF THE STREET TO GO TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND ENFORCE SMOKING LAWS.

BUT THIS WILL BE THAT ONE EXCEPTION WHERE I THINK A LAW THAT MIGHT BE HARD TO ENFORCE THE LAW, THERE WILL BE A GOOD TOOL FOR MANAGERS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL ABOUT MAYBE IDEAS ON ENFORCEMENT OR LIKE WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EDUCATION AND SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM OUR DISCUSSION. MS. BHAT-PATEL. YES.

THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE SPEAKERS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

AS A PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S SUPER NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

ONE OF MY FIRST JOBS WAS ACTUALLY IN TOBACCO RESEARCH, SO I HAD MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WORKING ON THAT.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT FOR GENERATIONS HAS AFFECTED PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S THE SMOKER THEMSELVES OR THOSE AROUND THEM. AND THE RESEARCH THAT I WORKED ON WAS ACTUALLY AROUND SECOND HAND AND THIRD HAND SMOKE AND HOW IT AFFECTS PEOPLE'S LONG TERM HEALTH AND WHAT IT DOES WITH REGARDS TO LONG TERM HEALTH.

SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE OUTCOMES AND REPERCUSSIONS.

AND I DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS.

I HAD THE ABILITY TO CHAT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, VISTA COMMUNITY CLINIC.

I DID CHECK IN WITH THE REALTORS ASSOCIATION, A FEW OTHER ASSOCIATIONS, AND I KNOW THAT WE ALSO GOT SOME EMAILS TO JUST CHECK IN TO SEE, OKAY, WHERE ARE FOLKS AT? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF COURSE WE RECEIVED AN OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR OPTION TWO, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I TOO SUPPORT.

BUT I KNOW THAT AS THE CONVERSATION HAS RISEN, A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND, OKAY, WELL, WHAT DOES ENFORCEMENT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND I DEFINITELY DUG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE OTHER AGENCIES DOING, WHETHER IT WAS I KNOW WE LOOKED AT ALAMEDA COUNTY, MARIN COUNTY, I TALKED TO SOME OF THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT I MENTIONED HERE AND ASKED THEM, WELL, WHAT WHAT ARE OTHER ENTITIES IN CALIFORNIA DOING SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GETTING INTO THAT TONIGHT IN TERMS OF HOW EXACTLY WHAT WILL ENFORCEMENT LOOK LIKE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST STEP OF ACTUALLY DIRECTING STAFF TO LOOK INTO AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY PROHIBIT SMOKING IN MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

SO IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE ULTIMATE FLEXIBILITY, I DID DISCUSS THIS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT AND I WILL MOVE OPTION TWO. I'D LIKE TO DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION TWO AND TO INCLUDE OPTIONS TO PROVIDE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, OBVIOUSLY, THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD TODAY AROUND STAFF TIME, BECAUSE I TOO WOULD NOT WANT TO TAKE OUR POLICE OFFICERS OFF THE ROAD TO HAVE TO GO ENFORCE NOT ONLY FROM A STAFF TIME PERSPECTIVE,

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AND SO I THINK I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR AS WELL, THAT WE LOOK AT AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE WHEN WE BRING THAT BACK.

AND SO I'LL BE MAKING THAT MOTION.

MRS. ACOSTA THANK YOU.

WAS THAT A MOTION? I MADE THE MOTION. I THOUGHT SO.

I SECOND, THEN.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION.

I KNOW WE HADN'T. WE USUALLY, I FEEL LIKE, GET THROUGH COMMENTS, SO I COULDN'T TELL IF THAT WAS A MOTION YET OR ABOUT TO BE A MOTION.

BUT I WANTED TO AGAIN THANK THE SPEAKERS AND ALL WHO SENT PUBLIC COMMENT IN VIA EMAIL AND ALSO THANK STAFF FOR THE RESEARCH AND THE WORK TO LOOK AT WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING.

I DO THINK THAT THERE'S MORE RESEARCH TO BE DONE RIGHT BECAUSE ONLY THREE CITIES GOT BACK TO US OF THE OF THE ONES THAT WE CONTACTED.

AND CLEARLY THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS NOW.

WE HEARD FROM THEM TONIGHT AND WE ALSO SAW THEIR EMAILS.

SO I THINK THEY HAVE I EVEN HEARD ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH WITH POLICE AND PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THAT THEY FOUND TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

SO I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT MODELS, BUT REALLY KIND OF BIG PICTURE, THE WAY THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS IS CARLSBAD'S VISION AND CARLSBAD'S VALUES.

CARLSBAD OUR COMMUNITY SEES ITSELF AS A CLEAN, GREEN, HEALTHY PLACE WITH TRAILS AND LAGOONS AND BEACHES AND GREAT AIR QUALITY.

AND THAT'S WHY WE LOVE IT.

THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHY WE LOVE LIVING HERE.

OUR CULTURE, OUR QUAINT ENVIRONMENT, AND REALLY OUR OVERALL WELLNESS.

SO I THINK THIS IS A BIG PART OF THAT.

AND I THINK THAT WE ON THE COUNCIL CAN SHOW OUR COMMITMENT TO THOSE VALUES BY PASSING NUMBER TWO.

SO I MADE THE SECOND AND FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF NUMBER TWO.

THANKS, MISS BURKHOLDER.

YEAH, THANK YOU. SO FOR ME, I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE RESERVED ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE THIS POLICY IN PLACE.

I DO SEE IT COSTING STAFF, RESOURCES AND TIME, AND FOR THOSE REASONS, I FEEL LIKE I NEED MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE A REAL GOOD DECISION ON THIS ONE, SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING OPTION TWO.

MISS LUNA. I'LL BE BRIEF.

WOULD YOU CONSIDER AMENDING YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE CONSIDERATION COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION RELATED TO EDUCATION AS WELL AS ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS? AS LONG AS THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AND YES, I'D LOVE ANY HEALTH EDUCATION ASPECT TO IT.

AND YES, FROM THE SECOND.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR ADDING THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? MS. BHAT-PATEL.

JUST BRIEFLY AND THANKS YOU YOU ACTUALLY JUMPED IN WHERE I WAS.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I MEAN, MY BACK, MY SPECIFIC BACKGROUND IS IN HEALTH EDUCATION.

AND I KNOW WHEN I WAS TALKING TO VISTA COMMUNITY CLINIC, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CHATTED ABOUT WAS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE BEST APPROACHES FOR BEHAVIOR CHANGE IN GENERAL, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T JUST I MEAN, YES, IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THOSE THAT ARE IN AND AROUND THE AREA HAVE THE ABILITY TO BREATHE CLEAN AIR, BUT ALSO HOPEFULLY GETTING FOLKS ON THE PATH OF BEING ABLE TO EXIT OUT OF SMOKING.

RIGHT. AND SO HEALTH EDUCATION IS SUCH A GREAT WAY TO APPROACH THOSE THINGS.

YOU KNOW, HEALTH BEHAVIOR TAKES A WHILE TO CHANGE.

AND SO JUST HAVING THE ABILITY TO HAVE PARTNERS LIKE WHETHER IT'S VISTA COMMUNITY CLINIC, OTHER OTHERS OUT THERE THAT ARE DOING THIS WORK, I THINK HEALTH EDUCATION IS A GREAT WAY TO GO. AND I KNOW YOU ALL PARTNER WITH FOLKS ON THE GROUND TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH SOME OF THE ENTITIES TO ACTUALLY DO THE HEALTH EDUCATION THERE AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AND I KNOW LIKE AS A MOM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, TOO.

RIGHT? AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL PARENTS UP HERE.

SO I THINK, LIKE, WE WOULD ALL WANT OUR KIDS TO HAVE CLEAN AIR TO BREATHE.

AND I HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD, SO I DEFINITELY WANT HIM TO HAVE CLEAN AIR TO BREATHE AS HE CONTINUES TO GROW AND HE'S DEVELOPING.

SO ANYWAYS, LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS AND I KNOW WE CAN CALL FOR A VOTE WHENEVER, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE READY.

MAYOR. WAITING FOR YOU TO FINISH.

YEAH, LET'S GO. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 4 TO 1.

ITEM NUMBER TEN CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

[10. PRESENTATION AND DEMONSTRATION ON THE LIBRARY’S LIBBY APP]

ITEM NUMBER TEN IS A PRESENTATION AND DEMONSTRATION OF THE LIBRARY'S LIBBY APP.

PLEASE HOLD YOUR CONVERSATIONS TILL YOU'RE OUTSIDE, PLEASE.

MAKIN OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS GOING TO BE OUR SENIOR LIBRARIAN, ERIN PEAK, AND LEAD LIBRARIAN DARIN WILLIAMSON.

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MY NAME IS ERIN PEAK.

I'M THE SENIOR LIBRARIAN OF ADULT AND TEEN SERVICES.

AND I'M DARIN WILLIAMSON, LEAD LIBRARIAN, ADULT AND TEEN SERVICES.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY WITH YOU TO SHARE ABOUT OUR E-READING APP, LIBBY.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A SHORT OVERVIEW OF THE LIBBY BASICS, THE FEATURES THAT SET IT APART AND WRAP UP WITH A SHORT DEMONSTRATION.

AS A MEMBER OF THE SERRA COOPERATIVE LIBRARY SYSTEM, WE CAN OFFER THOUSANDS OF DOWNLOADABLE TITLES TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR FREE.

SERRA IS A NETWORK OF PUBLIC LIBRARIES FROM SAN DIEGO AND IMPERIAL COUNTIES, WITH A GOAL TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO PROVIDE MATERIALS AND SHARED SERVICES.

ONE OF THESE SERVICES IS THE SERRA DIGITAL DOWNLOAD LIBRARY.

THROUGH THIS CONSORTIUM, THE CARLSBAD CITY LIBRARY HAS MADE DOWNLOADABLE EBOOKS AND AUDIOBOOKS AVAILABLE WITH OVERDRIVE AND THE LIBBY APP SINCE 2011.

LIBBY IS THE NEWER LIBBY READING LIBRARY READING APP BY OVERDRIVE.

IN 2022, CARLSBAD HAD OVER 182,000 LIBBY CHECKOUTS.

THIS IS AN INCREASE OF 30% PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC AND 860% SINCE LAUNCHING.

THE COLLECTION CONTINUALLY EXPANDS AS WE INCREASE NEW TITLES TO THE COLLECTION EACH MONTH.

LIBBY CAN BE DOWNLOADED THROUGH THE APPLE APP STORE, GOOGLE PLAY, OR FROM THE AMAZON APP STORE FOR NEWER KINDLES.

IF YOU HAVE A WINDOWS OR MAC OR CHROMEBOOK, YOU CAN USE THE LIBBY IN THE WEB BROWSER@LIBBYAPP.COM.

I'LL SHOW YOU THE SETUP PROCESS AND SOME NAVIGATION BEFORE DARIN SHOWS YOU HOW TO CHECK OUT SOME MATERIALS.

SO YOU'LL START BY DOWNLOADING THE LIBBY APP TO YOUR DEVICE TO SET UP YOUR ACCOUNT.

LIBBY WILL WALK YOU THROUGH A STEP BY STEP PROCESS WITH A SERIES OF PROMPTS.

ALL YOU NEED TO GET STARTED IS A LIBRARY CARD.

YOU'LL BE ASKED TO SEARCH FOR YOUR LIBRARY.

THIS CAN BE DONE BY ZIP CODE, LIBRARY NAME OR THE NEAREST LOCATION.

WHEN THE SERRA COOPERATIVE LIBRARY SYSTEM DISPLAYS, YOU'LL SEARCH AND SELECT CARLSBAD CITY LIBRARY.

WHEN PROMPTED, YOU'LL ENTER IN YOUR LIBRARY CARD NUMBER AND PIN, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS ACROSS ALL OF YOUR DEVICES.

IF YOU NEED A LIBRARY CARD, LIBBY WILL SEARCH FOR A LIBRARY NEAR YOU SO YOU CAN SIGN UP WITH THAT LIBRARY.

THE HOME SCREEN OFFERS REGULARLY UPDATED CONTENT AND TOPICS TO PIQUE OUR READER'S INTEREST.

YOU CAN ENHANCE YOUR BROWSING EXPERIENCE THROUGH FILTERS LOCATED AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.

SOME OF THESE FILTERS INCLUDE SEARCHING BY FORMAT TITLES AVAILABLE NOW NEW TOPICS, SUBJECT AREAS, LANGUAGES AND MORE.

YOU CAN NAVIGATE THE LIBBY APP IN THE FOOTER, SEARCH FOR YOUR QUICKLY FOR YOUR TITLES AND AUTHORS YOU KNOW THROUGH THE QUICK SEARCH.

AND TAP THE LIBRARY ICON TO VIEW THE LIBRARY'S MATERIALS.

YOU CAN EXPLORE THE CATALOG AND VIEW CURATED COLLECTIONS, CONTINUE TO SORT AND FILTER YOUR SEARCH RESULTS UNTIL YOU FIND A TITLE OF INTEREST.

NEED HELP ON WHAT TO READ OR LISTEN TO? THE LIBRARY OFFERS PERSONALIZED READING RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH THROUGH OUR EMAIL OR IN PERSON.

YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE YOUR SETTINGS TO CONFIGURE LIBBY TO LOOK AND WORK THE WAY YOU WANT.

YOU CAN ALSO ADD MULTIPLE LIBRARY CARDS HERE, INCREASING THE NUMBER OF TITLES AVAILABLE TO YOU.

MANAGE YOUR ACCOUNT THROUGH THE BOOKSHELF.

YOU CAN VIEW LOAN, DUE DATES, RETURN TITLES EARLY, OR RENEW THEM.

LIBBY WILL AUTOMATICALLY RETURN ITEMS ON THEIR DUE DATES.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE TITLES YOU PLACED ON HOLD.

VIEW THE WAIT TIMES OR CANCEL THEM.

AND WHEN A HOLD IS READY TO BORROW, YOU'LL BE NOTIFIED ON YOUR SHELF OR THROUGH A PUSH OR IN-APP NOTIFICATION.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE DAYS TO TAKE ACTION AND CAN CHOOSE YOUR LENGTH OF CHECKOUT UP TO 21 DAYS.

THE TIMELINE FEATURE ALLOWS YOU TO REVIEW HISTORY OF TITLES YOU HAVE BORROWED, PLACED ON HOLD OR CANCELED.

SO WHAT SETS LIBBY APART? IT'S EASY ONBOARDING A UNIFIED BOOKSHELF ACROSS DEVICES, MATERIALS AVAILABLE OFFLINE, BLUETOOTH CAPABILITIES AND DIRECT HELP AND SUPPORT FROM LIBBY. THESE FEATURES MAKE THE CARLSBAD CITY LIBRARY ACCESSIBLE TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ANYWHERE, AND WHAT AN IMPACTFUL DIFFERENCE THAT CAN MAKE IN THEIR LIVES.

I CAN TELL YOU PERSONALLY MYSELF, MY SON IS IN THE NAVY.

HE HAS SERVES OVERSEAS.

HE'S BEEN MANY DEPLOYMENTS ACROSS THE YEARS.

AND HE CAN TELL HE TELLS ME HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO STILL REACH OUR LIBRARY.

AND SO HE'S OFTEN IN REMOTE LOCATIONS.

THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THESE MATERIALS.

AND HE LOVES BEING ABLE TO READ THE LATEST FROM HIS FAVORITE AUTHORS.

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SOME OF THESE INCLUDE SCREEN READER SUPPORT FOR LOW VISION AND BLIND USERS, ADJUSTABLE TEXT AND DYSLEXIC FONT, ZOOM, KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS TO QUICKLY PAGE FORWARD AND BACKWARD AND START STOP PLAYBACK AND OPERATE FEATURES LIKE TURNING OFF TURNING ON THE SLEEP TIMER.

SO NOT ONLY DOES LIBBY HAVE HELP AND SUPPORT THROUGH THE APP, BUT YOU CAN REACH OUT TO OUR LIBRARY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH A STAFF MEMBER WHO WILL BE EAGER TO HELP YOU.

SO NOW LET'S LOOK AT A SHORT DEMONSTRATION THROUGH THE LIBBY APP.COM.

THANKS, ERIN FOR THAT STELLAR INTRODUCTION TO THIS INTUITIVE, EASY TO USE APP.

WE'RE GOING TO DEMO LIBBY TO SHOW HOW EASY, AND HOW TO ACCESS FREE DOWNLOADABLE, 24/7 CONTENT IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH FOR ALL AGES, THAT PROVIDES A LIBRARY OF MATERIALS YOU CAN ACCESS FROM HOME.

WE'LL NAVIGATE BETWEEN SEARCHING AT THE BOTTOM ON THE FOOTER AND THROUGH YOUR BOOKSHELF.

WE'RE GOING TO CHECK OUT THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS, AND AFTER WE CHECK OUT THREE ITEMS, THEY'LL BE ON THE BOOKSHELF AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE BOOKSHELF TO LOOK AT SOME ACCESSIBILITY OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.

CLICKING ON SEARCH NOW.

OUR FIRST TUESDAY, NOVEMBER VIRTUAL BOOK CLUB AT THE LIBRARY IS GOING TO BE COVERING THERE THERE, SO I'M GOING TO LOOK THAT UP AND WHEN WE GET THE RESULT LIST BACK, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE LIST HAS EARBUDS, EIGHT HOURS PLAY SAMPLE.

THOSE ARE ALL INDICATIONS THAT THIS IS AN AUDIO BOOK.

I LIKE TO READ. SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH EBOOK.

I'M GOING TO CLICK ON BORROW.

WHEN YOU DO CLICK ON BORROW, YOU HAVE AN OPTION TO CHANGE THE LOAN PERIOD.

YOU CAN EITHER SELECT THREE WEEKS, TWO WEEKS OR ONE WEEK.

I'M GOING TO STAY WITH THREE.

CLICK ON BORROW.

IT'S ON THE BOOKSHELF.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP BROWSING AND SCROLL BACK UP.

I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL EIGHT YEAR OLD DAUGHTER NAMED SKYLAR.

AND WE HAVE A DEAL IN OUR FAMILY THAT IF SHE READS THE BOOK, WE'LL WATCH THE MOVIE.

SHE WANTS TO WATCH THE HOBBIT, ALL IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

SO I AM GOING TO LOOK AT THIS.

I'M GOING TO CLICK ON THE COVER FIRST TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOING TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT SHE SHOULD BE READING.

AND I KNOW THE BOOK ANYWAY, SO I KNOW THAT SHE CAN TACKLE IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.

I'M GOING TO CLICK ON BORROW BECAUSE SHE'S A QUICK READER.

I'M GOING TO SELECT IT JUST FOR ONE WEEK.

I KNOW SHE'S ANXIOUS TO GET TO THE MOVIE, BORROW.

I'M GOING TO KEEP BROWSING.

AND LET ME GO BACK TO SEARCH.

UM, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE AT THE LIBRARY STARTING DECEMBER 2021, WE STARTED A SEED LIBRARY AT ALL THREE LIBRARY LOCATIONS, AND I DID THAT IN CAHOOTS WITH OUR WONDERFUL CARLSBAD COMMUNITY GARDENS COLLABORATIVE.

SINCE THEN, I'VE BECOME SOMETHING OF A GARDENER.

WHEN I KEEP UP TO SNUFF WITH DIFFERENT SUBJECTS, I LIKE TO LOOK AT MAGAZINES.

WE HAVE A VARIETY. AS ERIN POINTED OUT, WE HAVE 4,800 MAGAZINE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM THAT YOU CAN ACCESS THROUGH LIBBY.

UM, IT'S A LITTLE SLOW RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

SO, UM, LOOKING HERE THE PERFECT TITLE FOR ME LOOKS LIKE AMATEUR GARDENING.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BORROW THIS.

AND I'LL GO BACK TO MY BOOKSHELF.

MAYBE I DIDN'T BORROW THAT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO.

WELL, LET ME GO BACK HERE AND.

AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND BORROW.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT LITTLE HICCUP.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND I ALSO WANTED TO SHOW YOU A POSSIBILITY TO BROWSE.

WE HAVE A HIGHLIGHTED COLLECTION OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO CHOOSE FROM THAT ARE ALREADY CURATED.

AND FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN USE THESE DELIMITERS TO SEARCH FOR THINGS.

I WANT TO LOOK FOR MYSTERY AND AVAILABLE NOW AND I'LL SHOW THOSE TITLES AND IT WILL COME BACK WITH THAT LIST.

AFTER YOU'VE DONE YOUR SEARCHING AND YOU'VE BUILT UP A NICE BOOKSHELF TO LOOK THROUGH, YOU CAN GO THROUGH YOUR BOOKSHELF ON THE BOOKSHELF ITSELF.

YOU HAVE YOUR LOANS AND YOUR HOLDS.

SO THOSE ARE BOTH THINGS YOU HAVE.

ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT MAGAZINES IS YOU CAN CHECK OUT AS MANY MAGAZINES AS POSSIBLE AND IT DOESN'T COUNT TO YOUR LIMIT.

YOU CAN HAVE UP TO SIX LOANS AND YOU CAN HAVE UP TO SIX HOLDS AT A TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO START BY LOOKING AT THE HOBBIT.

WE'RE GOING TO READ IT ON LIBBY INSTEAD OF THE KINDLE APP.

IT'S DOWNLOADING.

BASICALLY ALL THREE FORMATS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

THAT UP HIGH YOU HAVE THE ACCESSIBILITY OPTIONS WHERE YOU CAN INCREASE THE FONT, YOU CAN MAKE THE FONT SIZE BIGGER, YOU CAN SEARCH WITHIN THE BOOK AND DOWN AT THE BOTTOM

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IF WE GO BACK, I WANT TO ALSO SHOW YOU AN AUDIOBOOK AND AUDIOBOOK WHEN WE OPEN IT UP, WE PLAN ON GOING TO COSTA RICA IN THE WINTER, IF WE'RE LUCKY.

SO IT'S ONE OF OUR DREAMS ANYWAY, SO I NEED TO BRUSH UP ON MY SPANISH.

AND SO AS IT SLOWLY DOWNLOADS, BASICALLY THE WHAT I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED IS UP AT THE TOP, YOU HAVE ACCESSIBILITY OPTIONS.

YOU CAN CHANGE THE SPEED OF THE PLAYBACK.

YOU CAN PUT ON A SLEEP TIMER.

YOU CAN NAVIGATE DOWN BELOW WITH THE FAMILIAR PLAY BUTTON.

FORWARDS. BACKWARDS.

15 MINUTES.

AND THEN I WILL ALSO LOOK AT THE MAGAZINE AND KIND OF JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW SIMPLE AND HOW CONSISTENT IT IS ACROSS THE APP THAT AT THE TOP IS WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR ACCESSIBILITY FUNCTIONS, YOU HAVE YOUR FONT FUNCTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND DOWN BELOW YOU CAN NAVIGATE THROUGH THE TABLE OF CONTENTS AND THROUGH THE ITEM ITSELF.

TO WRAP UP, WE HAVE SO MUCH ACCESSIBLE CONTENT AVAILABLE THROUGH LIBBY IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH FOR ALL AGES, TEENS, KIDS AND ADULTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT LIBBY AND ALSO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WE ARE RIGHT UP THERE AT THE LIBRARY, SO COME AND SEE US.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. OH, COMMENTS.

YES. JUST I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

AND THIS IS A REALLY IT IS DEFINITELY A VERY COOL APP.

I KNOW WE RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS REGARDING IT AND I THINK IT'S JUST SO COOL TO SEE THE EVOLUTION OF LIBRARIES IN GENERAL AND HOW THE REACH IS SO MUCH WIDER BY HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS AVAILABLE.

SO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THIS TO US AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY CAN BENEFIT FROM IT.

THANK YOU, MISS ACOSTA.

THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU AND SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE LIBRARIAN TAKING THE TIME TO SHOW ME HOW TO DO IT.

I THINK IF I HADN'T HAD THE LIBRARIAN TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY NO, IT'S SO EASY.

LOOK AT HOW YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT HERE.

I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.

I WOULD HAVE SAID, YEAH, YEAH, I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT LATER AND NOT DO IT.

AND IT'S LIKE LIFE CHANGING.

IT'S SO GREAT TO HAVE THIS ACCESS TO SO MANY MATERIALS.

I ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE MAGAZINES UNTIL RIGHT NOW, UNTIL TONIGHT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

BUT THE AUDIO BOOKS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE AND I LIKE HOW THEY PUT LIKE THE PULITZER PRIZE WINNING LIKE THE TOP WINNING THINGS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE KNOW WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT MORE TIME TO READ.

I'M LIKE, OH, I'M GOING TO PULL THAT ONE.

SO I HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT WITH MORE PEOPLE.

SO THINGS LIKE WHERE THE CRAWDADS SINGS OR MICHELLE OBAMA'S BECOMING, OR LIKE SEVERAL OF THE THE ONES THAT WERE IN YOUR PRESENTATION AT THE BOTTOM, LUCY FOLEY, HER MURDER MYSTERY DRAMA THING, I THEY CAME TO THE TOP OF THE LIST BECAUSE THEY ARE AWARD WINNING.

SO I PUT THEM IN MY AUDIO BOOK LIST.

AND WHEN I WAS TRAVELING, YOU DOWNLOAD THEM SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE WI-FI OR THE ABILITY TO USE YOUR CELL PHONE.

SO IT WAS GREAT FOR FLYING AND EVERYTHING JUST PUT IN THE EARBUDS AND LISTEN AND YOU COULD EVEN TIME IT 15 MINUTES AND YOU CAN FALL RIGHT ASLEEP.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I REALLY LOVE THIS.

THANKS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR MEETING.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE STATE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE STATE OF THE CITY PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE BOTH LAST WEEK.

I THINK THE THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE EARLIER ABOUT HOW THE COUNCIL WAS ALL ABLE TO SPEAK AND PARTICIPATE FULLY IN SHARING WITH THE COMMUNITY OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS OVER THE LAST YEAR.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND THE ENTIRE CITY STAFF FOR HELPING US PUT THAT VIDEO AND THE PRESENTATION TOGETHER.

I THOUGHT IT WENT REALLY WELL.

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR GOT ANOTHER SURPRISE FOR YOU.

MS. BHAT-PATEL. OH, GOSH.

WHAT IS THE SURPRISE? SO, YEAH, I TOO, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR INCLUDING ALL OF US, BECAUSE I THINK THAT SHOWS YOUR LEADERSHIP IN WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL HAD THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE WHAT WE THINK HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THE LAST YEAR.

AND, OF COURSE, HIGHLIGHTING WHAT STAFF'S BEEN DOING IN THE PAST YEAR AS WELL.

THE MAYOR AND I DID HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY.

WE HEAR FROM OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE HEAR UPDATES ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL.

SO IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR.

I'M SURE WE'LL SHARE MORE AS THINGS PROGRESS.

THERE WASN'T ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL COMING OUT OF IT JUST YET, JUST UPDATES ON HOW THE ECONOMY IS DOING.

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BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THIS LAST WEEK THAT WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHEN WE USE OUR CITY LETTERHEAD, AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND WHEN I WAS ASKED WHAT'S THE POLICY, I DIDN'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE HAVE A MINUTE MOTION TO REQUEST STAFF TO BRING BACK FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RELATED TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS USE OF OUR OFFICIAL LOGO AND LOGO AND SEAL AND OUR LETTERHEAD.

I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE BACKGROUND, ANY BEST PRACTICES, ANY COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS OF WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING AND OPTIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MY MINUTE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU ALL. CITY MANAGER.

NOTHING, SIR. CITY ATTORNEY.

NOTHING. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I DO HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT.

THERE WERE NO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY MAMA.

IT'S HER BIRTHDAY TODAY.

THANK YOU. AND I HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

VISIT CARLSBAD SUMMER MIXER WILL BE AT 3088 STATE STREET, SUITE NUMBER 103 IN CARLSBAD.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.