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[CALL TO ORDER]
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO LEAD THIS EVENING BY COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY. MS. PHELAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? . PLEASE NOTE, FOR THE RECORD, ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 18TH, 2023, MEETING.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 18TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING? OKAY. SEEING NONE.I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STINE AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUBINGER.
IT PASSES SIX WITH AN ABSTENTION BY COMMISSIONER MEENES.
OKAY. RIGHT? SO, IF EVERYONE WOULD DIRECT THEIR ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN, I'LL REVIEW THE PROCEDURES OF THE COMMISSION WILL BE FOLLOWING FOR TONIGHT FOR THIS EVENING'S PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO, THE REQUEST TWO SPEAKER FORMS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL ITEMS AND REQUEST TO SPEAK.
FORMS MUST BE TURNED TO THE MINUTES CLERK PRIOR TO THE ITEM COMMENCING.
AND THOSE ARE FOUND AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES UNLESS THAT TIME IS REDUCED BY THE CHAIRPERSON.
OKAY. THE PUBLIC, THE PROCEDURES, ARE WE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF ON THE PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT IF SO, DESIRES CAN MAKE A PRESENTATION.
THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY IS OPENED.
WE TAKE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC.
THE APPLICANT THEN HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.
IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, THEN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY IS CLOSED.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEN DISCUSSES THE ITEM.
WE GO TO A PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
BECAUSE CERTAIN PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES ARE FINE BUT MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AN APPEAL MAY BE FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK AT CITY HALL WITHIN TEN CALENDAR DAYS OF THE DECISION.
THE COST OF FILING AN APPEAL IS $900 FOR ALL MATTERS.
IF ANYONE WISHES TO QUESTION PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION, THEY MAY CONTACT THE PLANNING DIVISION AT 1635 FARADAY AVENUE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7:30 TO 5:30 MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND 8 TO 5 ON FRIDAY.
A TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES IS ALLOWED ALLOTTED TO EACH SPEAKER.
ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR VIEWING, INCLUDING PRESENTATIONS.
DIGITAL MATERIALS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE TIME LIMIT.
OKAY. OKAY, SO BEFORE WE DO THAT, THE COMMISSION SETS ASIDE THIS TIME UP TO 15 MINUTES TO ACCEPT COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA THAT ARE WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
HAS ANYONE FILED TO SPEAK THIS EVENING ON NON-AGENDA? NO, THEY HAVE NOT. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL SEE NONE.
WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S HEARING.
I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
[1. CARLSBAD BOULEVARD RESTRIPING PROJECT]
I GUESS BEFORE WE DO, WE SHOULD TAKE ANY EX PARTE.YEAH. SO, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GIVE ANY EX PARTE ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.
COMMISSIONER. KAMENJARIN? I'VE DRIVEN THIS STREET MANY TIMES, AS I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE.
SAME. COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER.
STINE. I HAVE DRIVEN IT AND BICYCLED THE AREA MANY TIMES.
COMMISSIONER MEENES? BICYCLED AND DRIVEN MANY TIMES.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, WERE YOU GOING? ALTHOUGH NOT AS AMBITIOUS AS MY COLLEAGUES, I HAVE DRIVEN THIS.
OKAY, YEAH, I HAVE DRIVEN, BUT NOT BICYCLED.
OKAY. AND I ALSO ACTUALLY MADE A POINT OF DRIVING IT TODAY MYSELF.
OKAY, SO WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
MR. LAI, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM?
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YES. THANK YOU.THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD RESTRIPING PROJECT.
GIVING THE STAFF PRESENTATION AS ISAAC MORALES, ASSOCIATE PLANNER.
THANK YOU, CITY PLANNER AND GOOD EVENING, CHAIR MERZ AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS, SORRY ABOUT THAT, IS AN APPLICATION FOR A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT TO REPURPOSE EXISTING ROADWAY SPACE WITH RESTRIPING TO MANAGE SPEEDS AND ALLOW FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION INCLUDES A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN.
THE BACKGROUND AND SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND THE RECOMMENDED ACTION.
LAST AUGUST, THE CITY COUNCIL DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY AND ESTABLISHED THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN, WHICH OUTLINES A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF ACTIONS THAT SUPPORT REDUCING COLLISIONS ON LOCAL ROADS.
THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS ONE OF THE ACTIONS OUTLINED IN THE SAFER STREETS PLAN, APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022. THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE CARLSBAD RESTRIPING PROJECT IN SEPTEMBER 2022 AS PART OF THE SAFER STREETS TOGETHER PLAN, AND RESTRIPING COMMENCED SHORTLY AFTER.
THE COMMISSION STAFF CONCLUDED THAT LANE REDUCTIONS QUALIFY AS DEVELOPMENT AND ADVISE THE CITY TO SEEK A RETROACTIVE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE WORK ALREADY COMPLETED.
THE PROJECT SITE, HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE SOUTHBOUND LANES OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD BETWEEN SOLIMAR DRIVE AND ISLAND WAY.
THE PROJECT IS ADJACENT TO SINGLE AND MULTI-FAMILY HOMES AND OPEN SPACE.
THE PROJECT IS ALSO WITHIN THE APPEALABLE AREA OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
THE PROJECT RECONFIGURED THIS SEGMENT OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD FROM TWO SOUTHBOUND VEHICLE LANES WITH UNPROTECTED SHOULDER BUFFERS TO A RECONFIGURED ROADWAY SPACE THAT INCLUDES ONE SOUTHBOUND VEHICLE LANE AND ENLARGED BUFFER FOR BIKE LANES AND SIX NEW PARKING STALLS.
THIS PROJECT SUPPORTS SAFER SPEEDS ON OUR ROADWAYS WHILE MAINTAINING TRAFFIC FLOW ALONG CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, IDENTIFIES CROSSING PATHS OF TRAVEL, AND CREATES MORE SPACE BETWEEN CARS AND BIKES.
MOST OF THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WAS DESIGNATED TO ACHIEVE A LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE DRIVER, NOT PEDESTRIANS OR BICYCLISTS. RECENTLY, THE CITY IMPLEMENTED A MORE BALANCED, MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK THAT CONSIDERS ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. LEVELS OF SERVICE ARE GRADED FROM A TO F, A THROUGH D, INDICATE ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF SERVICE, AND E THROUGH F INDICATES A FAILING LEVEL.
THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY, THROUGH A MOBILITY ELEMENT POLICY, TO APPROVE ANY ROAD NARROWING THAT WOULD REDUCE VEHICLE CAPACITY TO A LEVEL OF SERVICE OF D OR BELOW.
THIS WAS APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.
STAFF CONDUCTED A THOROUGH ANALYSIS AND DETERMINED.
THAT THE PROJECT IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE REFERENCE DOCUMENTS.
STAFF COMPLETED A REVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND CONCLUDED THAT THE PROJECT QUALIFIED FOR AN EXISTING FACILITIES EXEMPTION BECAUSE THE PROJECT INCLUDES STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND OF REASONABLE LENGTH.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
I GUESS WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
OTHER THAN I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
YEAH. OKAY, GOOD. SO, I MEAN, ARE THERE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF?
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COMMISSIONER STINE? YES. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DIALOG BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND THE COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF ON THIS ISSUE? IT SEEMS RATHER ODD THAT WE'RE IN A SITUATION OF RETROACTIVELY, RETROACTIVELY APPROVING SOMETHING THAT SEEMS SO INNOCUOUS AND CONSISTENT WITH SAFER STREETS. SURE, I'LL TAKE THAT ONE.REFERENCE TO A LIST OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS.
LANE RECONFIGURATIONS ARE A GRAY AREA.
ACCORDING TO THAT, WE HAVE TREATED THOSE AS MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.
BUT UPON THE DIALOG WITH THE COASTAL COMMISSION, IT'S THEIR INTERPRETATION THAT ANY CHANGE IN CAPACITY, WHETHER INCREASE OR DECREASE, WOULD COUNT AS DEVELOPMENT BEYOND JUST REGULAR MAINTENANCE.
AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE BEEN TAKING THESE AND ARE NOW TAKING THIS RETROACTIVE PERMIT FORWARD FOR ANY CHANGES IN LANE CONFIGURATIONS, BECAUSE THEY COULD BE HAVING AN IMPACT ON CAPACITY.
DO YOU KNOW IF THE COASTAL COMMISSION TAKES THIS POSITION ACROSS THE BOARD OF ANY COASTAL CITY THAT'S DOING A LANE CONFIGURATION? YES, THAT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. COMMISSIONER MEENES.
YES. MAYBE YOU COULD CLARIFY FOR ME REAL QUICK IN REGARD TO THE MICHAEL BAKER REPORT, THE ANALYSIS IN THAT ANALYSIS, HE TALKS ABOUT LOSE ON THE AM PEAK HOURS AND LOSF IN THE PM WEEK HOURS OF WEEKDAYS. AND THEN ON THE WEEKEND, IT'S LOSF COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY FOR US THAT DEFINITION AND HOW IT APPLIES.
THANK YOU. HI, THIS IS MIRIAM JIM, SENIOR ENGINEER.
AND YOUR QUESTION RELATED TO LEVEL OF SERVICE.
JUST AS A SUMMARY WITH MICHAEL BAKER'S ANALYSIS, WE DID SEE WITH THE LANE REDUCTIONS, WITH THE ANALYSIS PERFORMED, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WE DEGRADE FROM, AS ISAAC MENTIONED, A, B TO E AND F JUST BASED ON THE CAPACITY CHANGES.
AND THAT'S IN BETWEEN THE TWO INTERSECTIONS FROM SOLIMAR DRIVE TO ISLAND WAY.
AND IT'S FOR ROADWAY CAPACITY.
CAPACITY OF THE ROADWAY, ESPECIALLY IN COMBINATION OF THE INTERSECTIONS AND ALSO A ROADWAY SEGMENT ANALYSIS AND USUALLY INTERSECTIONS, IS WHERE WE SEE CAPACITY CONGESTIONS.
AND FOR OUR PROJECT, WE DID NOT CHANGE ANY LANE CONFIGURATION AT THE INTERSECTIONS.
SO, THE INTERSECTION CONTINUED TO OPERATE AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE A AND B, AND ONLY THE ROADWAY SEGMENTS WITHIN BETWEEN SOLAMAR DRIVE AND ISLAND WAY.
WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES FROM RESIDENTS HAS BEEN WORKING FINE, BECAUSE THE PROJECT ITSELF WAS COMPLETED WHEN IT WAS COMPLETED IN MARCH 2023 THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU. I WANTED TO JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE LENGTH OF THIS IMPROVEMENT.
HOW LONG IS IT? MILES, FEET, WHATEVER.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
WE HAVE A VIDEO AS WELL THAT CAN KIND OF REPRESENT THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROJECT.
JUST TO ANSWER IS ABOUT ONE THIRD OF A MILE, A THIRD OF A MILE.
OKAY. SHOW THE VIDEO AND THEN I'LL ASK MY OTHER QUESTION.
OH, FUN. OH, IS THIS FUN? HI, THIS IS TOM.
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THIS IS THE AM PEAK PERIOD.SO, YOU'LL SEE THIS IS IN THE SUNLIGHT.
AND JUST TO BUILD UPON WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT LOS ISSUES, THE SEGMENTS IN BETWEEN THE INTERSECTIONS, WE AS MENTIONED, USE A VERY CONSERVATIVE METHODOLOGY, WHICH IS ALSO TIED TO OUR MOBILITY ELEMENT AND OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
AND WE DID FURTHER ANALYZE THOSE IN THOSE STAY AT THE A AND B LEVEL.
YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC FLOWS AND MERGES RATHER WELL.
AND IT ACTUALLY HELPS MANAGE TRAFFIC SPEEDS THROUGH THAT SEGMENT.
SO, THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO DOING THIS.
SO, HERE'S THE EVENING PEAK HOUR.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THE MERGING IS WORKING WELL.
THERE'S NO CONGESTION AT THE INTERSECTIONS.
AND ALSO, FOR OUR PROJECTED TRAFFIC VOLUMES IN THE FUTURE THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY TYPE OF UNBEARABLE OR NOTICEABLE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ISSUES. GREAT.
THE LAST VIDEO. OH, THAT'S THE LAST ONE.
WELL, THESE DO BRING UP SORT OF THE QUESTION AND I KNOW THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE BIKERS ARE HOPEFULLY HAPPY WITH THIS IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES ACTUALLY NUMBER ONE HELP THAT MANAGE TO TREAT THAT THAT BRIDGE KEEPS WASHING OUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND MY CONCERN WITH THIS, AND I GUESS THAT LEADS TO MY QUESTION, IS, WERE ANY CROSSWALKS ADDED TO THIS ONE THIRD MILE STRETCH? BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING ALONG THESE AREAS, AND ESPECIALLY AT PALOMAR, WHERE THERE'S KIND OF THAT DIRT TURNAROUND UP THERE, WHICH WAS WELL SHOWN IN THE PREVIOUS VIDEOS. SO, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT WHAT'S WHAT OTHER IMPROVEMENTS FOR PEDESTRIANS HAVE HAPPENED WITH THIS AND WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO DO NEXT? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
ON A SEPARATE CAPITAL PROJECT, WE'RE WORKING ON WHERE WE HAVE A STUDY UNDERWAY.
IT'S CALLED THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD CLIMATE ADAPTATION STUDY.
CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY APPROVED A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AS A PART OF THAT STUDYING EFFORT EARLIER, AND THAT STUDY WILL BE COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL SOMETIME SPRINGTIME OF NEXT YEAR.
HAS OTHER ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH IT, LIKE THE REALIGNMENT OF SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
IT WON'T BE ADDRESSED AS A PART OF THE STUDY, BECAUSE IT'S JUST A PRELIMINARY STUDY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COASTAL EROSION AND REALIGNMENT ISSUES.
ENCOURAGE THAT THAT BE CONTINUED TO BE STUDIED BECAUSE IT IS A LONG STRETCH.
PEOPLE ARE PARKING ALONG HERE WHERE THEY CAN'T PARK.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE COMING HOME IN THE EVENING ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE, YOU KNOW, YOU DO SEE PEOPLE CROSSING FROM THE WATCHING, FROM WATCHING THE SUNSET, FROM THE TRAILER PARKS UP THERE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S VERY DARK THERE.
AND SO, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CROSSWALKS IN THIS AREA FOR THE POPULATION THAT KEEPS INCREASING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BUILDINGS STILL GOING UP.
SO, AND IS GETTING DENSER AS WELL.
BUT ALSO, YOU DON'T WANT TO INUNDATE IT WITH LIGHTING BECAUSE THAT ALSO.
DETRACTS FROM THE VIEW OF THE OCEAN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
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PROJECT. THANKS.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HASN'T? OR HAS ANYONE FILED A SPEAKER SLIP ON THIS ISLAND? NO, THEY HAVE NOT. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO, SEEING NONE, WE WILL THEN CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF APPLICANTS OF STAFF? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL NOW OPEN FOR SO NOW SEEING NONE WE'LL NOW OPEN COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE ITEM.
COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN? CONGRATULATIONS. THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND LET'S HOPE IT WORKS.
YEAH. YES, COMMISSIONER MEENES? YEAH. I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
AND WHAT IF THAT HAPPENS TO BE? IS THAT IN THE MICHAEL BAKER REPORT? THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE IN HERE IN REGARD TO THE THIS BEING INTERIM MODIFICATIONS TO CARLSBAD BOULEVARD UNTIL A PERMANENT SOLUTION IS DESIGNED. COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT? YES, COMMISSIONER.
AND THAT WAS THE PROJECT I ALLUDED TO THAT IS UNDER STUDY RIGHT NOW.
IT'S CALLED THE SOUTH CARLSBAD BOULEVARD CLIMATE ADAPTATION STUDY.
SO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A WEB PAGE DEDICATED TO THAT PROJECT.
SO, A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THAT.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE REALIGNMENT PROJECT THAT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL.
I WAS TRYING TO THINK I THINK THAT WENT TO THIS COMMISSION AS WELL, DIDN'T IT.
IT DID IN ONE OF THE EARLIER PHASES.
YEAH. SO, AND THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE APPROVED CONFIGURATION IS, BUT IT DOES PUSH THIS SOUTHBOUND VEHICLE LANE TO ADJACENT TO THE NORTHBOUND LANES RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN WE USE THE SPACE FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USES.
THIS PROJECT IS AN EASY YES FOR ME.
WE HAVE BEFORE US A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION.
THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES OF VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS.
AND IN TERMS OF ACCESS, I SEE THIS AS ENHANCING ACCESS, BOTH IN TERMS OF THE ADDING OF SIX NEW PARKING STALLS AND MAKING IT SAFER FOR BICYCLISTS, WHICH I INCLUDE MYSELF IN FOR RIDING IN THAT AREA BY ENHANCING THE BUFFER.
SO, AND INSTEAD OF CONCERNS ABOUT LIMITING PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO GET TO THE BEACH, THIS MAKES IT EASIER AND SAFER FOR THEM TO GO TO THE BEACH. SO, I HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PROJECT, AND IN TERMS OF THE PERMIT, TO ME THIS IS A REAL NO BRAINER.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER STINE.
I COMPLETELY CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER STINE, AND I DON'T WANT TO JINX US, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THE COASTAL COMMISSION WOULD HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THIS, SO I WILL BE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? YES, COMMISSIONER MEENES.
YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MEENES.
WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT SECOND.
OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE VOTE.
WOW. SO, IT PASSES 7 TO 0 AND THE VOTING MACHINE WORKED THE FIRST TIME.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT. EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.
MR. LARRY, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE OH THE NEXT.
YEAH. FIRST EX-PARTE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
COMMISSIONER MEENES? YES, I VISITED THE SITE.
COMMISSIONER STINE? I ALSO VISITED THE SITE.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER HUBINGER VISITED? YES. ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY? YEAH, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.
I LOOKED IT UP IN THE HISTORIC INVENTORY FROM 1991 TO SEE IF IT WAS ON THE LIST.
AFTER RECEIVING THE HISTORIC REPORT AND THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT FROM STAFF.
AND ANYONE ELSE? AND THEN I ALSO VISITED THE SITE TOO.
SO OKAY, I TOO HAVE VISITED THE SITE.
OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.
SO, PLEASE INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER TWO.
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SURE. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE LABOUNTY RESIDENCE.[2. LABOUNTY RESIDENCE – 3950 GARFIELD ST. 92008]
HERE TO GIVE STAFF PRESENTATION IS ASSOCIATE PLANNER LAUREN IZAGUIRRE.THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS LABOUNTY RESIDENTS 3950.
THE PROPERTY CONTAINS AN EXISTING TWO-STORY DUPLEX AND DETACHED GARAGE WHICH WILL BE DEMOLISHED.
THE PROJECT IS A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING DUPLEX AND GARAGE AND CONSTRUCT A 4284 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH A 571 SQUARE FOOT ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE.
THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE SUBJECT PROPERTY'S FRONTAGE ON GARFIELD STREET, INCLUDING A SIX-FOOT-WIDE SIDEWALK CONTIGUOUS WITH THE CURB, AND A NEW CURB AND GUTTER MEASURING 17.5FT BETWEEN CURB AND STREET CENTERLINE.
THE RESIDENTS WILL BE THREE STOREYS WITH AN OVERALL HEIGHT OF 30FT.
THE PROJECT IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT, AS THE PROJECT WILL REPLACE THE EXISTING TWO DUPLEXES WITH TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS, A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE, AND A DETACHED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
EXTERIOR WILL BE PAINTED WITH EARTH TONE.
COLORS AND MATERIALS WILL CONSIST OF CUSTOM LIMESTONE, ARTESIAN LAP SIDING, AND PAINTED WOOD.
THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE A STANDING SEAM, METAL ROOF AND ALUMINUM CLAD DOORS AND WINDOWS.
CLEAR LAMINATED GLASS WILL BE USED FOR THE DECKS.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
ARE THERE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
THANK YOU. I JUST REMEMBERING BACK TO THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WE APPROVED EARLIER THIS YEAR IS THIS IN THE AREA WHERE THOSE APPLY? THIS IS NOT WITHIN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN AREA, SO THOSE DON'T APPLY TO IT.
IF THIS WAS A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, IT WOULD APPLY TO IT.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS DO NOT APPLY.
WITHDRAWN. GOOD QUESTION, GOOD QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY? YEAH. OKAY, THANKS.
THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT WAS PROVIDED.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.
IT WAS PROVIDED FOR TWO PROPERTIES, 3940 AND 3950, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WOULD BOTH SITES BE RAISED A MINIMUM OF FIVE-FOOT GRADE ABOVE GRADE.
AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR AND OR BELOW BASICALLY.
SO YES, BOTH PROPERTIES ARE PROPOSED TO BE RAISED IN THE REAR.
SO REALLY WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS INCREASE THE BUILDING PAD.
SO, THE BUILDING PAD CURRENTLY IS SMALLER FOR THE EXISTING DUPLEX ON SITE.
AND SO, THEY'RE RAISING IT IN THE REAR FOR THE NEW SIZE OF THE DWELLING.
SO, IT WOULD LOOK SOMETHING LIKE SHOWN ON THIS EXHIBIT.
OKAY. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT.
COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? SO, FOR THE HOUSING CRISIS ACT, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE AS MANY UNITS AS YOU'RE DEMOLISHING.
AND THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FORM OF PROVIDING AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
SO, THEY HAVE ON SITE A DUPLEX.
SO, TWO UNITS ARE DEMOLISHED, AND TWO UNITS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.
IT'S THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING DESCRIBED TO ME BASED ON THE R 23 DOWN
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TO R 19.CAN YOU TELL ME THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING SITUATION? AND ARE WE LOSING UNITS AS A CITY.
I DON'T KNOW, ERIC, IF YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT.
SO TECHNICALLY, IF YOU MULTIPLY THE 0.14 ACRES BY 23, YOU'RE GOING TO GET 3.22 ACRES, 2 TO 3.2 DWELLING UNITS.
SO, ARE WE ROUNDING UP OR ROUNDING DOWN? FROM A FRACTION, SO WE WOULD BE ROUNDING DOWN.
HOWEVER, GENERAL PLAN LAND USE ELEMENT POLICY 2.7 ALLOWS FOR ONE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON A LOT THAT WAS LEGALLY EXISTING AS OF OCTOBER 28TH, 2004.
SO, THIS LOT WAS CREATED IN 1923.
SO, THEY ARE ENTITLED TO HAVE JUST ONE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD OUT TO THAT MINIMUM DWELLING.
OKAY. I'M DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT THAT'S IT'S NOT INCREASING A BLOCK FROM THE BEACH, BUT THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I HAVE CONTINUALLY WITH THESE PROJECTS.
I KNOW THERE ARE QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? THE APPLICANT IS HERE. THEY DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE. OKAY. SO NOW WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
IS DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS ON THIS, MS. VIGELAND? NO, WE DON'T.
OKAY. OKAY. SO, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THIS ITEM.
DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? YES, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
THANK YOU. THERE WAS ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, AND IT WAS REGARDING THE HISTORIC REPORT THAT WAS PRESENTED. WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL REPORTS FROM THIS SAME.
PROVIDER AND MY CONCERN IS ON PAGE 1940. ITEM NUMBER TWO.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE HISTORIC RESOURCE UNDER CEQA, AND THIS IS UNDER THE PROJECT ANALYSIS SECTION ENVIRONMENTAL STATEMENT.
SO, IT STATES HERE THAT A CULTURAL RESOURCE REPORT WAS PREPARED BY A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL, DETERMINED IF THE PROPERTY MEETS, TO DETERMINE IF THE PROPERTY MEETS, AND THE DEFINITIONS OF CEQA UNDER THE HISTORIC GUIDELINES.
SO, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT THE CITY.
QUALIFIES AS A OR DEFINES AS A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL BECAUSE LOOKING AT THAT REPORT, COMPARED TO WHAT WE SAW MONDAY AT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEETING, THIS WAS A LOT OF GENERIC INFORMATION FROM ANCESTRY AND NOT NECESSARILY QUANTITATIVE AS FAR AS.
SO, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT QUALIFIED.
WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL? AND BEFORE ERIC ANSWERS THE QUESTION, I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT THE CITY PLANNER HAS ALREADY FOUND THIS PROJECT TO BE EXEMPT UNDER SEQUA.
SO, THE HISTORIC INFORMATION ISN'T REALLY BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT UPDATING AND LIKELY INCLUDING MORE INFORMATION.
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JUST SO THE COMMISSION KNOWS, IS WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR CONSULTANT HELP SUPPORT TO UPDATE OUR ENTIRE CULTURAL, PALEONTOLOGICAL AND HISTORIC GUIDELINES, LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AND PLAN SETS.THAT WILL ALSO BE A PUBLIC EFFORT AND WILL UPDATE THE COMMISSION AS THAT MOVES FORWARD.
BUT THAT WASN'T PART OF THIS PROCESS.
THAT WASN'T PART OF THIS PROCESS.
BUT THIS IS THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON WHO PREPARED THIS REPORT IS NOT QUALIFIED, BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF THAT NEXT PROCESS.
YEAH, I GUESS SINCE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, IS NOW REVIEWED BY PLANNING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, I'M, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO CONSIDER UPDATING ITS POLICY TO REQUIRE LICENSED DESIGN PROFESSIONALS TO EVALUATE HISTORIC STRUCTURES UNDER SEQUA, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DOCUMENT, LIKE ENGINEERS FOR GEOTECHNICAL REPORTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S REALLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS DESIGNATION, AND I THINK IT WAS TRIGGERED BY THE IDEA THAT IT WAS WHAT'S THE STYLE, A BEACH COTTAGE, THIS EXISTING BUILDING IS A BEACH COTTAGE.
THE NEW BUILDING IS NOT QUITE MY DEFINITION OF A BEACH COTTAGE.
SO, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE WANT TO IMPROVE, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT'S CONCERNED WITH THIS JUST INCREASED DENSITY.
SO, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO UPDATING OR SEEING THAT UPDATE.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.
IF THE APPLICANT OR OWNER ARE HERE, I'D LIKE TO ASK THEM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
AND ALSO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS CLEARLY SO MS. VIGELAND CAN GET INTO THE RECORD.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALAN TITA WITH TRAY ARCHITECTURE.
AND I HAVE WITH ME PAUL LABOUNTY, OWNER.
I'M IMPRESSED WITH THIS WORK THAT'S BEING DONE.
BUT I'M ALSO CURIOUS, IS THIS BUILDING HABITABLE IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION? THE CURRENT STRUCTURE.
MAYBE ASK THE OWNER, HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF, LIKE JUST DOING AN ADDITION RATHER THAN A COMPLETE DEMOLITION? WE DID CONSIDER THAT AND SPOKE TO SOME CONTRACTORS THAT LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY BUILT IN 1959 AND THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE MORE PROBLEMS THAT WOULD COME UP BY DOING THAT THAN BY JUST DEMOING IT.
OKAY. SO, I GUESS YOU WERE CONCERNED NOT ONLY THE EXISTING CONDITION, BUT PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL STOREY MAY PRESENT PROBLEMS. RIGHT. AND THE PREVIOUS OWNERS DID A LOT OF THINGS TO THE STRUCTURE, NOT TO YOUR LIKING.
OKAY. YEAH. WELL, YOU'RE VERY FORTUNATE.
HEY, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS.
YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR THE STAFF.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO YELLOW SIGNS UP.
ONE, YOU KNOW, AT FIRST, I WENT TO THE FIRST ONE, THE 30, 39, 30.
AND I REALIZED, OH, WAIT, IT'S THE ONE NEXT DOOR.
SO, WE'RE SEEING THE ONE WHEN WILL WE SEE THE NEXT APPLICATION.
ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SEE OKAY.
NO. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON IT OKAY.
SEEING NONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS? YES, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO.
[00:40:01]
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? YEAH. AND SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER MEENES.THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. GEARY. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE APPLICANT.
YEAH. GUESS WE'LL SEE YOU IN JANUARY ALSO.
SO NOW WE WILL SO CLOSE PASS BY 7 TO 0.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
AND NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THAT.
THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR REPORTS FROM COMMISSIONERS?
[PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS/COMMENTS]
OH, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.THERE WAS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEETING ON MONDAY THAT THE.
VICTOR CONDOS WERE POSTPONED DUE TO IT WAS A-- WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IT? THEY WERE POSTPONED ALLOWING FOR MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS.
RIGHT. THE POSTPONED MEETING WILL BE PUBLISHED, I BELIEVE, TOMORROW.
BUT IT IS LOOKING AT NOVEMBER 30TH AT 6 P.M.
THE PROJECT THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT IS OUT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW RIGHT NOW.
THAT PUBLIC REVIEW CLOSES ON DECEMBER 15TH.
AND THERE WERE ALSO AT THAT MEETING, DISCUSSIONS OF THE 390 CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE, WHICH WAS THE FIRST MAYOR'S HOUSE.
AND SO MORE INFORMATION I UNDERSTAND IS GOING TO BE PROVIDED.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S ALSO.
THE OTHER. ITEM WAS ESTABLISHING A WEBSITE FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
SO, IF ANYONE HAS SUGGESTIONS FOR A WEBSITE FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE INFORMATION FROM OUR COMMISSION AND BRING IT TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN COMMENTED.
A COMMENT AND A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, WHAT WAS THE ADDRESS OF THE FIRST MAYOR'S HOUSE THAT YOU SAID WAS POSSIBLY GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED? BECAUSE I THINK I'VE BEEN THERE.
IT'S THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO SENOR GRUBBY'S.
IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I COULD LOOK IT UP.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STREET NUMBER.
IT IS A SENIOR GRUBBS? A QUESTION FOR ERIC.
DO YOU KNOW OUR SCHEDULE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR? YES. I WAS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT DURING MY COMMENTS.
I WISH YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMENJARIN.
OKAY. AND LET'S SEE, COMMISSIONER SABELLICO, I REALIZED THAT I SAID MY MOTION WAS STAFF'S APPROVAL.
I MEANT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS APPROVAL.
I HOPE THAT WAS CLEAR TO EVERYBODY.
YEAH. AND I ALSO NOTICED I WENT A LITTLE OFF SCRIPT.
YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL BLAME THE RAIN ON THAT.
OKAY. GREAT. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE CITY PLANNER?
[CITY PLANNER REPORTS]
SURE. SO, OUR FINAL MEETING OF DECEMBER OF THE YEAR WILL BE DECEMBER 6TH.WE DO HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AT THAT MEETING.
WE HAVE THE ARMY AND NAVY ACADEMY FACILITIES BUILDING.
AND THEN POINSETTIA PARK, WHILE OUR WIRELESS FACILITY AND AT&T PROJECT WILL BE THERE, WE DO EXPECT DISCUSSION AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT. SO THAT COULD BE A LONGER ITEM.
AND THEN WE HAVE A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
WE DO HAVE THE LEGOLAND'S NEXT RIDE PROJECT, CALIFORNIA PROJECT 2025.
WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.
[00:45:03]
OKAY. THANK YOU.DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? REPORTS FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY? NO, SIR. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, SEEING THAT WE WILL ADJOURN TONIGHT'S MEETING.
OKAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.