[CALL TO ORDER]
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IT'S 5:00. I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER.
ALL FIVE COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
CITY MANAGER, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? PLACE YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
NEXT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING HELD OCTOBER 17TH OF 23.THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING HELD OCTOBER 24TH OF 23.
MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS RECITED BY THE MAYOR.
[PUBLIC REPORT OF ANY ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION]
NEXT IS A REPORT OUT ON OUR CLOSED SESSION.THANK YOU. MAYOR. THERE WAS NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I'M REQUIRED TO READ THE FOLLOWING.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.
NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WHEN THE CLERK CALLS YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
COME UP TO THE PODIUM AT THE 2.5 MINUTE MARK.
I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE END OF 3 MINUTES.
CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.
MARY LUCID, FOLLOWED BY DON CASHMORE.
GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, AND MERRY CHRISTMAS.
I GET ASKED OFTEN, WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR THE SENIORS AT THE SENIOR CENTER? THE BEST THING THAT YOU CAN DO IS TELL THEM NOT TO BE SO PARANOID.
WE HAVE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT GO THERE, YET THEY LOCK UP EVERYTHING.
I WENT TO THE CITY OF VISTA'S SUPPER FOR THANKSGIVING.
THE MAYOR, THREE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MEMBERS, AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER CITY STAFF WERE THERE TO SOCIALIZE WITH THE SENIORS AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
IMAGINE THAT: I WAS IMPRESSED AND I'M NOT EASILY IMPRESSED.
IT WOULD BE VERY NICE IF THE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS HERE WHO ARE BUSY TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS WOULD REMEMBER THAT THE SENIOR POPULATION IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION? YOU DON'T JUST REPRESENT ONE DISTRICT, YOU REPRESENT EVERYONE AND IF EVERYTHING IS LOCKED UP AT THE CENTER FOR MY PROTECTION, BECAUSE GOD FORBID A SENIOR CAN WALK ACROSS AND TAKE A SHORTCUT.
NO, YOU HAVE TO WALK THE LONG WAY AROUND AND THEY DON'T TELL YOU THEY WILL UNLOCK THE DOORS, AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HAVE YOU HAD LUNCH WITH A SENIOR? ARE YOU TRYING TO HELP SENIORS? IT'S ON YOU.
YOU CAN GO FOR THE MONEY OR YOU CAN GO FOR SERVING SENIORS, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY IT.
YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BANK.
THEY ARE, HOWEVER, NOW SHOWING SENIORS LOVE.
THEY SERVE SALADS TWO TIMES A MONTH INSTEAD OF SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
I HOPE THAT THE BUDGET CAN AFFORD IT.
SO IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING NICE FOR SENIORS, BRING THEM SALAD.
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BUY THEM GAMES.DO NOT GIVE MONEY DIRECTLY TO PARK AND REC.
THEY PUT IT IN A FUND AND IT JUST DISAPPEARS.
THEY WON'T EVEN BUY SENIORS 50 CENT CUP OF COFFEE.
HOW TACKY IS THAT? IT DOESN'T SHOW THE LOVE.
SO, CITY COUNCIL, WHY DON'T YOU DIRECT THEM TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY OR COLLECT MONEY? $3,000. YOU HAVE FINE STAFF AND YOU DON'T LISTEN TO THEM AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
WHY IS THAT? BUT LOCKING UP EVERY THING AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
IT'S UNACCEPTABLE AND YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT OR NOT.
GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, MAYOR AND ATTENDEES.
I REPRESENT SAN DIEGO, WHO HAVE BEEN DOING BUSINESS IN CARLSBAD FOR 33 YEARS.
WE'RE THE OLDEST SPRINGBOARD DIVING CLUB IN THE HISTORY OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
I WAS ALSO COACH AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FOR 14 YEARS.
PART OF THAT VOLUNTEER AND THEN PART OF IT SALARY.
WE HAVE SENT MANY KIDS TO COLLEGE ON SCHOLARSHIPS FOR DIVING AND HAVE BEEN USING MOSTLY THE MONROE STREET POOL UNTIL ALGA NORTE OPENED.
WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS POOL SAFETY AND SAFETY FOR OUR KIDS.
THE SCHEDULING FOR OUR CLUB DURING THE WINTER IS FROM SEVEN TO ABOUT 9:00 AT NIGHT.
THE POOL IS HEATED, BUT AS SOON AS YOU GET OUT OF THE WATER, IT'S COLD.
WE HAVE KIDS FROM SIX YEARS OLD TO ABOUT 17 YEARS OLD, WITH A LOT OF THEM WITH VERY LITTLE BODY FAT, AND IT'S THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY FREEZING. IN THE PAST, WE'VE BEEN ALLOWED PATIO HEATERS FOR THE POOL.
THEY'VE BEEN SANCTIONED BY THE POOL STAFF AND BY RISK MANAGEMENT.
THIS YEAR WHEN WE PUT OUT PATIO HEATERS, WE WERE TOLD NOT ACCEPTABLE.
THE POOL STAFF TOLD US THEY WOULD TALK TO RISK MANAGEMENT.
TWO AND A HALF MONTHS WENT BY, WE HEARD NOTHING WHATSOEVER.
I KEPT CHECKING IN. THEY KEPT SAYING, WELL, WE HAVE RISK MANAGEMENT HASN'T GOTTEN BACK TO US.
SO WE PRODUCED A DOCUMENT FROM TWO YEARS AGO OF THE PREVIOUS.
POOL MANAGER, GIVING US PERMISSION AND SANCTIONED BY RISK MANAGEMENT TO USE THE HEATERS, BUT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WE WERE DENIED.
THESE POOL HEATERS ARE NOT AN OPEN FLAME.
WE HAVE FOUR ATTORNEYS ON THAT ARE PARENTS, AND ONE OF THEM GENEROUSLY USED HIS OFFICE TO RESEARCH STATE, COUNTY AND CITY RULES ABOUT PATIO HEATERS ON A POOL.
IN ANY REGULATIONS WHATSOEVER ABOUT THAT OPEN FLAMES.
YES, BUT THESE PATIO HEATERS, IF THEY TIP OVER, THEY AUTOMATICALLY STOP THE GAS FLOW.
IN THE 33 YEARS THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN CARLSBAD, WE HAVE HAD NO ACCIDENTS.
WE HAVE DONE NO DAMAGE TO CITY PROPERTY.
WE HAVE COOPERATED IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
WE HAVE PROVIDED FREE SERVICES TOO FOR LIKE THE EVENTS.
OKAY, SIR. WILL YOU CONTACT OUR POLICE CHIEF OVER HERE.
GARY BARBERIO WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
SO THE POLICE CHIEF SITTING RIGHT THERE IN THE HALLWAY WILL GUIDE YOU.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RICHARD [INAUDIBLE].
I'M A RESIDENT OF SOUTH CARLSBAD.
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OF WHAT CAN BE DONE WHEN NEIGHBORS WORK TOGETHER.THE THREE ITEMS ARE GLOBAL WARMING, WHICH IS NOW CALLED THE DESTRUCTIVE PLANETARY HEATING, THE GLOBAL RESPONSE TO ADDRESS THIS INCONVENIENT TRUTH, AND THE SPECTACULAR RESPONSE SHOWN BY THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE 28TH UNITED NATIONS SPONSORED CONFERENCE ON CONFERENCE OF PARTIES, WHICH IS WHAT COP 28 STANDS FOR, IS CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF DUBAI IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES.
THIS IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST THE DRYING UP OF THE COLORADO RIVER, OR THE UNPRECEDENTED FIRES FROM CANADA TO GREECE TO CYPRUS TO AUSTRALIA, DROUGHTS HERE, FLOODING THERE ALL CREATED IN AN UNBELIEVABLE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BY HUMAN RESOURCES, BUT ALL BUT THE WISHFUL THINKERS HOPE THAT SOME GOOD FAIRY WILL MAKE IT ALL GO AWAY. EVERYONE ELSE UNDERSTANDS THE REALITIES OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT MUST BE DONE RESPONSIBLY.
HOWEVER, HERE IN CARLSBAD FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE FOUND A WAY TO FOCUS ON THESE ISSUES AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, CELEBRATE WHAT THEY PERSONALLY CAN DO TO ADDRESS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I'M SPEAKING OF THE ANNUAL RITUAL CARLSBAD NEIGHBORS DO DECORATING THE NOW DEAD FROM DROUGHT TREES ALONG OUR COAST, AND THE RITUAL OF TAKING THE TIME TO TALK TO THEIR CHILDREN ABOUT WHAT THEY PERSONALLY CAN DO TO HELP AMELIORATE THIS PROBLEM.
MY WIFE, HELEN HAS ATTEMPTED TO CHRONICLE THIS EFFORT, WHICH SHE HAS WITNESSED FIRSTHAND IN THE COVER STORY OF THIS SEASON'S CARLSBAD MAGAZINE, A COPY OF WHICH SHOULD BE ON YOUR DESK.
THIS IS NOT TO SAY THERE WAS NO RESISTANCE TO HER STORYLINE.
JUST LIKE IN TODAY IN DUBAI, THERE ARE SELFISH INTERESTS THAT WANT TO PUT THEIR ECONOMIC GAINS AHEAD OF ADDRESSING THE CHALLENGES OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND TAKE THE STEPS NEEDED NOW TO SLOW THIS WARMING AND CREATE THE SUSTAINABLE PLANET, BUT IN THIS ARTICLE, SHE MANAGES TO HIGHLIGHT THE INTELLIGENT DETERMINATION OF THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD TO DO THESE THINGS INDIVIDUALLY.
IT PRESENTS A PARTIAL LIST OF WHAT THEY CAN DO.
AS A CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD ASK YOU TO APPLAUD THE CITIZENS' DETERMINATION AND MAKE SURE YOUR CITY ADMINISTRATION ALSO UNDERSTANDS THE NEED FOR THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS OUTLOOK AS WELL, AND IN 23 SECONDS, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WISH YOU A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AND I'VE GOT 15 SECONDS TO GO.
YOU DID ALL GET A MAGAZINE, RIGHT? WONDERFUL. THE ARTICLE'S FLAGGED.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR.I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, TWO AND THREE, BUT BEFORE WE TAKE THOSE SPEAKERS, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS GOING TO BE TAKEN OFF THE CALENDAR AND BE HEARD AT A LATER DATE.
SO PLEASE CALL THE SPEAKERS FOR ITEM ONE.
MARY LUCID ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE.
HELLO, MARY LUCID AND I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE MONEY.
WHERE IS IT? IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SHOWING UP AT THE LIBRARY HOURS.
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SHOWING UP AT THE SENIOR CENTER WHERE DOORS ARE LOCKED FOR OUR SAFETY.
WE'VE GOT THE BEST POLICE FORCE IN THE AREA.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING MONEY? WHEN YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO PEOPLE AND YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THE PEOPLE HERE.
I KNOW YOU'RE PANICKING BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE REVENUES ARE DOWN AND YOU'RE NOT SAVING ENOUGH MONEY.
NOBODY IN THE CITY, WELL, MAYBE SOME I DON'T KNOW, NOBODY IN MY ECONOMIC BRACKET SAVES 40% OF THEIR INCOME FOR A RAINY DAY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE LEGOLAND AND OTHER THINGS.
SO YOUR REVENUE MAY BE DOWN FROM DEVELOPERS FEES, BUT THE MONEY COULD BE SPENT ON SERVING THE COMMUNITY. WHY ISN'T IT BEING USED?
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WHY ISN'T THERE FREE COFFEE AT THE SENIOR CENTER FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND DROP A $500 CHECK? AND IT'S NOT BEING USED.MARY, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE KEEP IT ON TOPIC.
THIS IS ON THE BUDGET AND MONEY AND QUALITY OF LIFE AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE MONEY.
THIS IS ON INVESTMENTS, SO PLEASE KEEP IT TO INVESTMENTS OKAY.
THANK YOU. I WANT YOU TO INVEST.
YOU'RE THROWING ME OFF MY GAME THOUGH BY TELLING ME TO STICK TO THE TOPIC.
IN ANY CASE, YOU HAVE INVESTMENT MONEY.
WHY AREN'T YOU SPENDING IT? WHY ARE YOU SCARING THE MANAGERS OF THE SENIOR CENTERS AND THE LIBRARY SO THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO USE THE MONEY FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE? HERE WE HAVE MONEY.
WHY ARE YOU NOT SPENDING IT? YOU REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY, AND I DON'T SEE YOU GUYS AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
I DON'T SEE YOU BUYING A CUP OF COFFEE OR VISITING.
YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND FOR THE CITY.
FOR A RAINY DAY FOR BIKE LANES.
WHY NOT SPEND IT FOR SALADS AND COFFEE FOR SENIORS? SO IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR SENIORS, DON'T GIVE THEM MONEY.
BRING IN COFFEE AND DON'T INVEST THE MONEY WITH THE CITY.
DON'T GO AWAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON NUMBER ONE? NO. DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON ITEM NUMBER TWO? YES, PAIGE [INAUDIBLE].
I'M SORRY, MARY. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE YOU THROWING ME OFF.
OKAY. MAYOR , CITY COUNCIL. I'M PAIGE [INAUDIBLE].
WE'RE NOT REALLY CLOSE TO REACHING THAT GOAL, BUT INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL ACREAGE ARE AREAS THAT MAY NOT BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, LIKE THE OPEN WATER OF BATIQUITOS AND BUENA VISTA LAGOONS.
RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE ABOUT READY TO APPROVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AND ACCESS TO EIGHT SCHOOL SITES THAT ACCOUNT FOR 29 ACRES OF THAT TOTAL OPEN SPACE.
BECAUSE THESE GROUNDS ARE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY, THE AGREEMENT STATES THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS AFTER SCHOOL HOURS TO THESE PARKS GROUNDS, JUST AS THEY SHOULD. HOWEVER, LAST MONTH, IN A QUICK SURVEY AFTER HOURS BY ME FOR THOSE OF FOUR OF THOSE SITES, ONLY VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL HAD UNLOCKED GATES.
CAN YOU STILL HEAR ME? OKAY. NECESSARY SECURITY MEASURES AT SCHOOL SITES HAS MEANT THAT SIGNIFICANT FENCING HAS BEEN ADDED OVER RECENT YEARS CONTROLLING ACCESS, AND THAT'S A POSITIVE, BUT THIS MEANS THAT A BETTER JOINT SCHEDULE FOR UNLOCKING AND LOCKING GATES TO PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS NEEDS TO BE CREATED. ACCORDING TO THE AGREEMENT, GROUNDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN FROM 8 A.M.
I ENCOURAGE CITY COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY FULFILLS ITS PART OF THE AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS, OR ELIMINATE THOSE ACRES FROM THE CITY'S TOTAL PARK AREA.
PAIGE, WILL YOU TALK WITH KYLE LANCASTER? YOU HAVE BEEN? OKAY.
THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON ITEM TWO? NO, WE DO NOT.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON ITEM THREE? YES. MARY LUCID.
WHY DO THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES ESTABLISHED BY WHOMEVER? THE APPOINTMENTS COULD BE UTILIZED AS THE EYES AND EARS, AND HAVE MORE POWER TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THEY HEAR FROM PEOPLE BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO SHARE THE POWER AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE FEEDBACK, AND SENIORS DON'T WANT TO MAKE A FUSS.
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THEY'D JUST AS SOON SAY, I GOT FOOD AT HOME.I DON'T NEED TO PUT UP WITH THIS SENIOR CENTER STUFF.
THE EYES AND EARS OF THE COMMISSIONS.
PEOPLE WILL TALK TO THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN THEIR CITY, IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU BANNING PEOPLE FOR A YEAR BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE PARANOID.
ESPECIALLY SENIORS, AND HOW COULD YOU BE AFRAID OF A LITTLE OLD LADY? IN ANY CASE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A VANITY POST TO BE ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT THOSE PEOPLE ARE SMART, CAPABLE, AND ABLE TO ASSIST YOU.
YOU MAY BE VERY SMART AND VERY DEDICATED, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IT ALL EXCEPT MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER, MR. CHADWICK, BECAUSE HE CERTAINLY HAS A NICE JOB, BUT HE'S NOT SUPERVISING THE PARK AND REC PEOPLE LIKE KYLE LANCASTER, WHO IGNORES THE SENIOR CENTER.
SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WITH YOUR APPOINTMENTS AND NOT UTILIZING THE PEOPLE, AND TAKING THEIR FEEDBACK AND HAVING THEM HAVE A SAY.
I KNOW YOU HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS.
YOU'RE CONCENTRATING ON THE STEPS ABOVE YOU.
WHERE AM I GOING TO GO NEXT? I'M GOING TO HELP THE CITY.
I'M GOING TO GET A GOOD JOB IN SACRAMENTO.
YOU GOT A JOB RIGHT HERE, AND WE ARE RELYING ON YOU.
TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO COLLECT MONEY.
TO UTILIZE THE BEST THAT THE CITY HAS ON THESE COMMISSIONS.
SHOULD WE BE TALKING TERM LIMITS? SHOULD WE BE TALKING STABLE CONTINUITY? OR SHOULD WE BE TALKING LOCKING UP EVERY ROOM AT THE SENIOR CENTER BECAUSE STAFF IS DOING IT FOR OUR PROTECTION? I'VE NEVER HEARD SO MANY GOOD EXCUSES OR REASONS TO DO SO LITTLE AS I HAVE FROM PARKS AND REC.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ANY OF THE OTHER CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS? NO, WE DO NOT.
OKAY, AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, I FAILED TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT.
DOES THE COUNCIL CHOOSE TO PULL ANY CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS? YES, PLEASE, NUMBER TWO.
OKAY. ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS WISH TO PULL ONE.
OKAY. LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR ONE THREE.
SO MOVED. SECOND ONE CLARIFICATION.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IT'S BEEN TAKEN OFF CALENDAR.
DID I SAY FIVE? SORRY. BIG RED LETTERS.
THANK YOU, AND COMING UP IS OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, KYLE LANCASTER.
KYLE. HI, MR. LANCASTER. THANK YOU. THIS IS VERY QUICK.
OF THE NINE TENNIS COURTS THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO AT CHS ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS OF ALLOWING PICKLEBALL USE ON ANY OF THOSE COURTS? NO, MA'AM. THERE HAS NOT BEEN SUCH DISCUSSION.
THERE IS NO SOUND ATTENUATION ON THOSE PARTICULAR COURTS.
IN ADDITION, IN ORDER TO HAVE PROPERLY LINED AND NETTED COURTS, YOU WOULD REALLY DO A CONVERSION OF THOSE AND THAT WOULD BE QUITE AN EXPENSE. SO THAT HAS NOT BEEN ENTERTAINED BY EITHER THE DISTRICT OR THE CITY.
THE ONLY OTHER POSSIBILITY WOULD BE TEMPORARY NETS AND TAPED LINES ON THE COURTS, WHICH THEN CREATES OTHER ISSUES IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE WITH ADHESIVES AND SUCH.
IT'S REALLY NOT THE PROPER WAY TO CONVERT A COURT FOR THOSE REASONS.
IT HAS NOT BEEN THOROUGHLY EXPLORED AT THIS POINT AND STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU. NEED A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE.
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SO MOVED. SECOND.PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[8. REVISIONS TO CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 2.04 - ELECTED OFFICIALS]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CITY MANAGER.ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS THE REVISIONS TO CARLSBAD MUNI CODE CHAPTER 2.04 ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION IS SHEILA COBIAN.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
MY NAME IS SHEILA COBIAN, YOUR DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES.
SECTION 2.04.030 OF THE CODE OUTLINES THE DUTIES OF THE MAYOR.
SUBSECTION B SPECIFIES THAT THE MAYOR SIGNS ALL WRITTEN CONTRACTS AND CONVEYANCES MADE OR ENTERED INTO BY THE CITY IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, AND IN ACTUAL PRACTICE, IT IS OFTEN MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THESE DOCUMENTS.
IF THE CITY COUNCIL DELEGATES THAT AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER.
SECTION 2.04.040(C) PROVIDES THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR THE POSITION OF CITY TREASURER.
THE POSITION OF CITY TREASURER IS BOTH AN ELECTED POSITION AND A POSITION OF SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC TRUST IN THE CITY, SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ANYONE ELECTED OR APPOINTED TO THE POSITION MEET CERTAIN MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS.
BASED ON STAFF'S RESEARCH OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE AN ELECTED TREASURER AND IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR CITY TREASURER, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT A CANDIDATE FOR TREASURER HAVE A FOUR YEAR COLLEGE DEGREE IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, ACCOUNTING, FINANCE OR ECONOMICS, AND FOUR YEARS OF FINANCIAL WORK EXPERIENCE. IN LIEU OF THE WORK EXPERIENCE BEING RECOMMENDED.
A VALID CERTIFIED INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT ANALYST CERTIFICATION FROM THE INVESTMENTS AND WEALTH INSTITUTE, OR A VALID CERTIFIED CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL TREASURER DESIGNATION FROM THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL TREASURERS ASSOCIATION.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES. WE HAVE ONE MARY LUCID.
THE MAYOR SERVES AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND FOLLOWS THE DIRECTIVES OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I ONCE HEARD IT SAID THAT THE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS REPRESENT ALL AREAS OF CARLSBAD.
I WOULD HOPE THAT THE MAYOR'S DUTIES ARE EXPANDED TO SERVE EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, TO AVOID SHORTCHANGING SENIORS AND LIBRARY PATRONS BY CLOSING THE LIBRARY ON SUNDAY.
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COMMUNITY DOESN'T LIKE THAT.YOU'RE THE ONLY CITY THAT DOWNGRADED SERVICES.
THAT'S NOT A FIRST CLASS, GOLD RATED STANDARD TO ACHIEVE, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
YOU ADVISE AND TELL THE MAYOR WHAT HIS DUTIES ARE.
SO IF THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A LIBRARY OPEN ON SUNDAY, IT'S ON YOU.
MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THE VOTES.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU'RE TOO BUSY BECAUSE YOU WORK AND YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT YOU'RE NOT DOING IS SERVING ALL SEGMENTS OF THE POPULATION THROUGH THE DUTIES OF SCOTT CHADWICK.
SO IF PEOPLE WANTED TO TAKE UP A FUND TO BUY A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON WHAT COULD BE DONE BECAUSE SCOTT CHADWICK IS TOO BUSY AND DOESN'T DELEGATE TO STAFF TO OPEN LIBRARIES ON SUNDAYS AS THEY USED TO BE, AND TO UNLOCK DOORS AT THE SENIOR CENTER.
THIS IS THE TOPIC. [CHUCKLING] STOP THE CLOCK.
YOU'RE SO BAD. PLEASE KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA.
I AM ON THE AGENDA ITEMS. THE DUTIES OF THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD BE TO SUPERVISE WHAT STAFF IS DOING.
EVEN IF IT'S A LOWLY DEPARTMENT.
MAYOR, THE DUTIES OF THE CITY MANAGER ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS ITEM.
REALLY? WELL, MAYBE YOU SHOULD EXPAND, IF I MAY CONTINUE, AND WHETHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THE CLOCK. IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK, THEN HOLD MY TIME, MARY.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU 25 MORE SECONDS BUT PLEASE KEEP IT ON TOPIC.
KEEP IT ON TOPIC, OR I'M GOING TO ASK THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE.
I THINK THE CITY MANAGER'S DUTIES SHOULD BE EXPANDED TO LISTEN TO THE CITY.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER.
LET'S DO SOMETHING FOR THE CITY.
I WILL GIVE YOU MY TIME AT THE END OF THE MEETING, MARY.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? ANY MOTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO INTRODUCE THIS ORDINANCE.
[9. MCCLELLAN-PALOMAR AIRPORT - NOISE ABATEMENT ADVISORY LETTERS]
CITY MANAGER.THANK YOU SIR. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS THE MCCLELLAN-PALOMAR AIRPORT NOISE ABATEMENT ADVISORY LETTERS, AND MAKING THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR, JASON HABER. MR. HABER. THANK YOU, MR. CHADWICK. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
I'M JASON HABER, INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR.
THIS ITEM IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN NOISE ABATEMENT ADVISORY LETTERS THAT WOULD BE PREPARED BY CITY STAFF TO SEND IN QUARTERLY BATCHES TO AIRCRAFT PILOTS THAT OPERATE DURING VOLUNTARY QUIET HOURS AT MCCLELLAN-PALOMAR AIRPORT.
MCCLELLAN-PALOMAR AIRPORT IS A SAN DIEGO COUNTY OWNED AND OPERATED PUBLIC AIRPORT AND LOCATED IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, AND TO HELP ADDRESS NOISE IMPACTS, THE COUNTY IMPLEMENTS FLY FRIENDLY PROGRAM AND A VOLUNTARY NOISE ABATEMENT PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES A VARIETY OF STRATEGIES TO LIMIT THOSE IMPACTS, INCLUDING VOLUNTARY NIGHTTIME QUIET HOURS FOR ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES, ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE FLIGHT PATTERNS AND PATH-SUGGESTED ALTITUDES, IDENTIFICATION OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS FOR PILOT AWARENESS, AMONG A VARIETY OF OTHER STRATEGIES.
THE VOLUNTARY NOISE ABATEMENT PROGRAM QUIET HOURS CURRENTLY IN PLACE ARE RECOMMENDED QUIET HOURS.
THEY'RE NOT MANDATORY, BUT THEY'RE 10 P.M.
TO 7 A.M. FOR JET AIRCRAFT AND FROM MIDNIGHT TO 6 A.M.
IF A PILOT DOESN'T ADHERE TO THE QUIET HOURS IN PLACE.
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IT INFORMS THE PILOT OF THE QUIET HOURS IN PLACE AND THE FLIGHT PROCEDURES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED, AND REQUEST THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THE VNAP QUIET HOURS IN THE FUTURE.STAFF KNOWS THAT DATA ON FLIGHT OPERATIONS THAT OCCUR DURING THE VOLUNTARY QUIET HOURS ARE READILY AVAILABLE FROM THE COUNTY THROUGH A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, AND WE'RE PREPARED IF COUNCIL ADOPTS THE RESOLUTION TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT THE PROCEDURES NECESSARY TO OBTAIN COPIES OF THOSE NOISE ABATEMENT LETTERS AND SEND SIMILAR LETTERS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, ENCOURAGING COMPLIANCE IN THE FUTURE.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES, WE HAVE THREE.
MARY LUCID FOLLOWED BY DOM [INAUDIBLE].
GOOD EVENING, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER, MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS! I'M VERY CONCERNED AS A SENIOR CENTER WITH AS A SENIOR--YOU'RE THROWING ME OFF MY GAME AS A SENIOR. WHO HAS HEALTH ISSUES WITH THE EMISSIONS FROM THE MCCLELLAN-PALOMAR AIRPORT.
I KNOW THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER THE AIRPORT AND WHAT IS GOING ON, AND WE HAVE A LOVELY CITY EMPLOYEES WHO DO THEIR BEST TO WORK WITH THE SAN DIEGO COUNCIL OR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE PRIVATE CITIZENS WHO HAVE SPENT MONEY TO HIRE ATTORNEYS TO HELP YOU MAKE EDUCATED MOVES.
CARLSBAD MAY HAVE BEEN A CORNFIELD, BUT IT'S NOT SAN DIEGO'S BROWN AIRPORT DOMAIN.
NEWPORT BEACH HAS HOURS OF REGULATIONS, AND THEY'RE NOT BUILT ON SOIL THAT'S MOVING. GAS LEADED FUEL FOR PLANES.
GOOD THING IT'S DANGEROUS FOR MANY CITIES.
WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH TRAFFIC.
I'M SURPRISED THAT CARLSBAD HAS BEEN LATE IN DEALING WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN SAN DIEGO, SOME OF WHOM ARE PILOTS AND SOME OF WHOM ARE FRIENDLY AND WINE AND DINE CARLSBAD OFFICIALS.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM WINING AND DINING ANYONE.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM BUYING INFLUENCE AND NOT GIVING THE RESIDENTS OF MANY COMMUNITIES THEIR DUE.
AM I STAYING ON TOPIC FOR YOU, MS. MCMAHON. IN ANY CASE, DO YOUR BEST FOR THE AIRPORT.
LISTEN TO THE STAFF THAT WORKS HARD ON THIS, AND TRY AND DO YOUR BEST TO GET SOME REGULATIONS TO BENEFIT THE HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN THE AREA.
GOOD EVENING, I'M DON [INAUDIBLE].
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING SOME ACTION IN THIS AREA.
AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN UP HERE BEFORE.
I HAVE SPOKEN WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR VARIOUS HOAS THAT ARE ALSO WORKING ON THESE ISSUES.
AS MR. HABER POINTED OUT, THE COUNTY ALREADY SENDS OUT LETTERS, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD SIGN THAT THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN ALSO SEEING A MORE ASSERTIVE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS VNAP.
NOW THE QUIET HOURS, OF COURSE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE BEING MANDATORY, BUT IN LIGHT OF THAT NOT HAPPENING, AT LEAST IF WE COULD GET MORE PRESSURE ON MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE THE PILOTS DO NOT DEVIATE FROM THE VNAP PROCEDURES
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OR THE FLIGHT PATHS, THAT COULD ONLY BE A HELP.I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH THE COUNTY AND THE FAA, EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL INVOKE A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST, BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY PROTECTIVE OF THAT INFORMATION REGARDING THE PILOTS, AND I ALSO HOPE, AS DO MY COLLEAGUES IN THE HOAS, THAT THIS WILL MAYBE LEAD TO SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT PRESSING THE COUNTY AND THE FAA TO MORE ASSERTIVELY IMPLEMENT THE NAP DURING DAYTIME HOURS WHEN THERE ARE 75 TO 100 FLIGHTS.
I THINK THAT WOULD PUT TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN ON THE CITY, BUT YOU CERTAINLY COULD HELP WITH PRESSURING THE COUNTY AND THE FAA TO TAKE THIS WHOLE NAP MORE SERIOUSLY.
THEY LIKE TO CALL IT DEVIATIONS, NOT, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF VIOLATION, BUT REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, IT IS AIRPLANES GOING OVER OUR SCHOOLS, GOING OVER OUR HOMES, CREATING HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES, AND THEN FINALLY, I HOPE THAT WHAT I'M HEARING INFORMALLY ABOUT MAYBE THE PAC MEETING MOVING TO CARLSBAD HAPPENS.
I THINK WE CAN ALSO HELP WITH THIS.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN SAN MARCOS, AND IT'S REALLY NOT CONDUCIVE FOR CARLSBAD RESIDENTS WHO REALLY HAVE THE MAJOR IMPACTS FROM THIS AIRPORT.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HOPEFULLY AT LEAST STARTING THIS PROCESS OF ENGAGING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE FAA, AND I WISH YOU LUCK IN YOUR ENDEAVORS TO ASSERTIVELY SEE THE VNAP IMPLEMENTED.
THANK YOU. OUR FINAL SPEAKER, HOPE NELSON.
I BET YOU GUYS KNEW I WAS GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT, RIGHT? MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF.
I'M HOPE NELSON. I'M THE PAST PRESIDENT OF C4FA.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO ADDRESS NOISE ISSUES AT PALOMAR AIRPORT.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AS YOU KNOW.
IF YOU CAN GET PILOTS TO COMPLY WITH NOISE ABATEMENT.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO START BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 15 YEARS.
SO MY FIRST MOVE WAS TO CONTACT THE AIRPORT MANAGER AND TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, AND AT THE TIME WE'RE TALKING 15 YEARS AGO, THAT'S HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS.
I WAS TOLD THAT THERE ARE THE VNAP RULES.
ONE OF THE RULES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS FOR PEOPLE NOT TO TAKE OFF IN THE BIG JETS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, BUT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WHAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS I'M HEARING FROM IS.
THE BIGGEST CONCERN I'M HEARING IS THAT THE PILOTS ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE NAP, AND THEY'RE TURNING KIND OF QUICKLY ACCELERATING AND, AND AND GAINING HEIGHT OVER THE RESIDENTS.
IT CONCERNS THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY, THE HOW HIGH THE AIRPLANE IS BUT PROBABLY THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I HEAR IS THOSE LITTLE ENGINES MAKING SO MUCH NOISE AS THEY'RE TRYING TO GAIN ALTITUDE, AND I WATCH IT, I SEE IT ALL THE TIME, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH THEM.
SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TO THE AIRPORT MANAGERS WERE, CAN WE GET A LIST OF THE PILOTS WHEN THEY TAKE OFF, THE ONES WHO ARE VIOLATING THE VNAP AND SEND THEM A LETTER? IT JUST SAYS, PLEASE BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR ON THIS PARTICULAR DATE AND TIME.
I RAN INTO A LOT OF RESISTANCE WITH THE WITH THE MANAGEMENT FROM THE AIRPORT.
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AT THAT TIME. PRE-COVID, ONE OF OUR RETIRED CITY EMPLOYEES ENDED UP BEING THE INTERIM MANAGER AT THE AIRPORT.SO I THOUGHT, ALL RIGHT, NOW I'VE GOT AN EAR.
SO I APPROACHED HIM AND HE SAID, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
THEN COVID HIT AND HE GOT REASSIGNED.
SO NOW HERE'S 15 YEARS LATER, I ASKED JASON TO HELP AND JASON TOOK IT LIKE HE DOES EVERYTHING WE ASK HIM AND REALLY WORKED HARD ON THIS, BUT I STILL AM FINDING SOMETHING LACKING.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND JASON, PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS IS THAT THIS IS ONLY ADDRESSING THE AIRPLANES THAT ARE TAKING OFF AFTER 10 P.M, AND BEFORE THE WHAT IS IT, 6 A.M.
FLIGHT TIMES. THIS IS NOT ADDRESSING THE AIRPLANES THAT ARE FLYING OVER THE RESIDENTS, AM I ACCURATE? THAT'S CORRECT. TWO OF THE PRIMARY OPERATIONAL CONTROLS WITHIN THE FLY FRIENDLY PROGRAM RELATE TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION, TAKEOFFS AND LANDING, AS WELL AS THE RECOMMENDED FLIGHT PATHS FOR THOSE TAKEOFFS AND APPROACHES, AND SO, YES, THIS RESOLUTION ONLY SPEAKS TO LETTERS THAT ARE SENT TO PILOTS THAT OPERATE DURING THE VOLUNTARY RECOMMENDED QUIET HOURS, NOT NECESSARILY THOSE PILOTS THAT DEVIATE FROM THE RECOMMENDED FLIGHT PATHS. WELL, FLIGHT PATTERNS AND ALTITUDES.
IF COUNCIL ASKS YOU TO GO BACK AND SEE IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THE FLIGHT PATTERN AND ALTITUDE IN GETTING THAT THOSE REPORTS, AND THEN WE SEND LETTERS TO THEM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD YOU CAN AT LEAST TRY TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA.
YES. IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TRY.
AS YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY HAS DIRECT AFFILIATION WITH OPERATIONS THAT OCCUR ON THE RUNWAY.
SO THEY'RE MORE DIRECTLY IN CONTROL OF THE OPERATIONS THERE.
THE FAA, THROUGH THE FLIGHT STANDARDS DISTRICT OFFICE, WOULD BE THE AGENCY WE WOULD WANT TO CONTACT TO DETERMINE IF WE COULD GET INFORMATION RELATED TO PILOTS THAT ARE OPERATING IN WAYS THAT DEVIATE FROM THE RECOMMENDED FLIGHT PATHS.
OKAY, AND WE DON'T HAVE CERTAINTY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION AT THIS POINT.
WOULDN'T THAT BE PUBLIC INFORMATION? OR YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL LEAVE THAT.
ONE OF THE REQUESTS I'M GOING TO MAKE AFTER EVERYBODY ASKS OR MAKES THEIR STATEMENTS, IS THAT WE ASK JASON TO BRING THIS BACK AND SEE WHAT HE CAN COME UP WITH FOR INCLUDING FLIGHT PATTERNS AND FLIGHT ALTITUDES TO GO ALONG WITH THIS, THIS IDEA.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A CLOSING STATEMENT? OKAY. CAROLYN.
SINCE I'VE INHERITED YOUR DISTRICT, KEITH HAS SORT OF PASSED THE TORCH ALSO.
SO THERE'S TWO TORCHES GOING RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK THIS IS FABULOUS.
IT'S TIME THAT WE DO SOMETHING, AND I THINK WE NEED TO GO FURTHER IN OTHER AREAS THAT AREN'T EXACTLY PERTAIN TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, BUT THAT HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE COMING FORWARD. I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING TODAY.
THANK YOU, JASON, AND I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. HABER, FOR THAT.
I HAVE FLIGHTS OVER MY AREA, TOO, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE A STAND TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR RESIDENTS, AND I AGREE WITH OUR SPEAKER, MR. [INAUDIBLE], THAT THIS IS A FIRST STEP, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, AND BUILDING ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE, I THINK MAKES SENSE.
SO WE CAN COMPILE SOME DATA BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO SAY WE'RE A DATA DRIVEN CITY.
SO I THINK THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD.
THANK YOU. MS. ACOSTA. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU TO MR. HABER FOR THE REPORT AND FOR THIS WRITEUP HERE.
WE KNOW THAT WE ARE LIMITED SOMETIMES IN WHAT WE CAN DO, BECAUSE THIS IS A COUNTY OWNED AND OPERATED AIRPORT, AND THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION GOVERNS FLIGHTS AND AND AIRPORTS AND AND PLANES.
SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS IDEA AND OF EXPANDING IT AS WELL.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE CONTINUING TO ADVOCATE FOR FAIR REPRESENTATION ON THE PAC.
PUSHING FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE VNAP AMONGST PILOTS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT AND MORE.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AS A CITY THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR.
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AS THE MAYOR SAID, HE'S BEEN WORKING ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES FOR A GOOD 15 YEARS.SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE SOME OF THESE THINGS FINALLY HAPPENING, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE OF IT.
THANK YOU. I THINK MY MY COLLEAGUES SHARED MANY OF THE SENTIMENTS, AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU ALSO, MR. HABER AND OF COURSE, THE COMMUNITY FOR BEING INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE.
I THINK ALL OF US HAVE HEARD FROM FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND CLEARLY IT GOES BACK THAT 15 YEARS, AND DEFINITELY WHEN I FIRST STARTED, IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH AND HOPEFULLY SLOWLY CHIPPING AWAY AT AND I THINK I DO AGREE WITH ADDING ON MORE COMPONENTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW, HAVING AS MUCH CONTROL AS WE ARE ABLE IS ALWAYS HELPFUL.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD A COMPONENT AROUND.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, NOT AGENDIZED FOR TODAY, BUT THE UNLEADED FUEL PIECE.
JASON, HEARING THE REQUEST, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD NEED BEFORE YOU CAN BRING IT BACK ON ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM? I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IF COUNCIL WANTED TO DIRECT STAFF TO CONTINUE REACHING OUT TO THE FAA AND DETERMINE IF WE'RE ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION AND THEN DEVELOP THE PROCEDURES NECESSARY TO FOLLOW UP WITH LETTERS, I BELIEVE WE COULD CONTINUE AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNCIL.
SO MY MOTION WILL BE THAT WE ASK STAFF TO RETURN WITHIN 60 DAYS WITH A MORE DETAILED VNAP PLAN THAT WOULD INCLUDE FLIGHT PATTERNS AND FLIGHT ALTITUDES.
JASON, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'VE GOT THINGS DONE THAT I COULDN'T GET DONE, I APPRECIATE IT.
YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, AND THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF OUR AGENDA.
[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
WE'LL START OFF WITH MS..SO IN THE LAST WEEK, WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW MORE NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT MEETINGS.
WITH THE CAL CITY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS MET.
I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA AND I BOTH ARE ON THAT, AND WE MADE SOME DECISIONS AROUND WHAT OUR ADVOCACY PRIORITIES WILL BE, AND THEN WE DO HAVE ANOTHER LEAGUE MEETING ON MONDAY. I JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS VERY EXCITING TO SEE THE COMMUNITY OUT FOR THE TREE LIGHTINGS.
I WAS SO EXCITED TO SEE ABOUT 200 CITY OFFICIALS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA COME TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S POLICY PRIORITIES FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR FOR 2024, AND OF ALL PLACES, THEY DECIDED TO MEET HERE IN CARLSBAD.
SO I MADE SURE TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF THE CITY OFFICIALS FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE TO GET OUT, EXPLORE, SHOP, SPEND MONEY, AND ENJOY OUR CITY, AND FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT I RECEIVED, EVERYBODY WAS PRETTY JEALOUS.
RELATED TO THAT, THIS YESTERDAY WE HELD THE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING HERE IN THESE CHAMBERS, AND WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE LEAGUE LEADERS' PRIORITIES.
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THAT IS, IS THE CITY OFFICIALS COME TOGETHER FROM ALL OVER THE STATE IN ONE PLACE ONCE A YEAR AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AND THEY TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING YEAR, AND THEY COME UP WITH THREE OR SO POLICY PRIORITIES FOR ALL CITIES.
THAT'S THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ANNUAL PRIORITY LIST, AND THIS YEAR THEY CHOSE FOUR.
ONE WAS HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, ONE WAS CLIMATE RESILIENCY, ONE WAS PUBLIC SAFETY, AND ANOTHER WAS FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY FOR CITIES AND PROTECTING CITIES FROM MONEY GRABS AND POWER GRABS.
SO THOSE WERE ALL REALLY GREAT, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE.
THEY ARE IN OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM ALREADY.
ONE THING THAT IS UPCOMING IS AT THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.
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THAT POLICY PLATFORM THAT WE'VE WORKED OUT THERE, AND AVGAS IS IN THERE.SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A REALLY GREAT DECEMBER AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
THANKS, MISS BURKHOLDER, AND I'LL JUST ADD ON, AS MY COLLEAGUE IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THAT WE HAVE A ROBUST WISH LIST, I KIND OF REFERRED TO IT AS A CHRISTMAS LIST FOR AS A KID DURING THE MEETING, BUT HAVE NO FEAR, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH OUR LEGISLATORS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR AS A CITY MATCHES WITH WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE, AS WELL AS FOR ME.
WE DO HAVE A SANDAG MEETING ON FRIDAY AT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
THE BIGGEST ITEM, IN MY OPINION, THAT IS ON THE AGENDA IS ASKING STAFF TO PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE BACK OFFICE SYSTEM FOR TOLL OPERATIONS, INCLUDING AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 ANNUAL FINANCIAL AUDIT.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKING THE BOARD FOR DIRECTION RELATIVE TO THAT.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS IN THE NEWS REGARDING THE 125 TOLL ROAD.
SO IT SHOULD BE A FIERY MEETING.
COME JOIN ME AT 930 IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE.
MISS LUNA. THANK YOU, AND ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THE COUNCIL.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT THERE WILL BE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT'S VOLUNTEER HOLIDAY BREAKFAST AT THE SAFETY TRAINING CENTER ON ORION STREET.THAT'LL BE TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12TH BETWEEN 8 AND 9:00 AM.
NOTHING TO REPORT, SIR. CITY ATTORNEY.
CITY CLERK. NOTHING, THANK YOU.
WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.