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IT'S 5:00. I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

PLEASE TAKE ROLL.

. ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

CITY MANAGER, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

PLEASE. PLEASE, PLEASE.

BEGIN. BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

NEXT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING HELD DECEMBER 12TH OF 23.

THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD JANUARY 9TH OF 24.

AND THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING HELD JANUARY 9TH OF 24, MOVE MINUTES AS RECITED BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

I ASSUME WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS.

OKAY. NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

I HAVE TO READ THE FOLLOWING.

IT SAYS THE BROWN ACT AND THE.

AND THE CITY'S MEETING RULES ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS ARE REGARDING MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS RELATE TO THE QUESTION OR MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION.

INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES.

AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON ANY OF THE NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN MAKING YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.

THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.

YOU'LL COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

YOU'LL GET THREE MINUTES AT THE 2.5 MINUTE MARK.

THE LIGHT ON THE PODIUM WILL TURN YELLOW.

THAT'S GIVING YOU NOTICE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE 30S LEFT.

I'VE ASKED THAT THE CLERK TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THREE MINUTES.

THEN THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO TALK.

IT'S A IT'S A FAIRNESS ISSUE.

PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.

MARY LUCID, FOLLOWED BY LORI ROBBINS.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MARY LUCID, AND I LIVE IN OCEANSIDE, AND I AM.

SO UPSET THAT THE CITY COUNCIL.

IS NOT DOING MORE TO MAINTAIN THE GOLD STANDARD OF SERVING THE PEOPLE HERE.

IT IS FRUSTRATING TO SEE.

ALL THE HARD-WORKING EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOT BEING SUPPORTED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY COUNCIL WITH BETTER DIRECTION AND OVERSIGHT.

CARLSBAD USED TO BE.

A FINE CITY, BUT SOMEHOW.

THERE IS NO DIRECTION FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE BUSY RUNNING FOR OFFICE OR SAVING MONEY.

FOR IMPORTANT THINGS AND NOT SPENDING IT ON SENIORS OR LIBRARY PATRONS.

WHEN THE CITY MANAGER DOESN'T OVERSEE.

AND PROTECT WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS.

AND GIVE DIRECTIONS.

TO DO GOOD FOR SENIORS.

I HAVE A PROBLEM AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LIBRARY DEPARTMENT DECIDING HOURS.

BECAUSE IT'S CONVENIENT.

AND SHUTTING DOWN ON SUNDAY WHEN OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER CITY LIBRARIES ARE OPEN 6 OR 7 HOURS ON SATURDAY AND

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SUNDAY, AND THEY STILL WORK FEWER HOURS THAN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL NOT NAIVELY KOWTOW.

TWO DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE HARDWORKING BUT MISGUIDED AND NOT.

SUPERVISED PROPERLY BECAUSE IT COST TOO MUCH MONEY.

YOU KNOW, THE MONEY WAS BUDGETED AND IT'S NOT BEING USED PROPERLY.

AND THAT'S ON THE MEDIOCRE CITY COUNCIL MANAGEMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE BEING CALLED, MEDIOCRE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT FOLLOW.

YOUR OWN GUIDELINES AND YOU ALLOW CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS TO.

DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, AND ITS CHAOS AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND NOBODY CARES.

CERTAINLY NOT THE SENIOR CENTER DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING, WINDSOR POINT.

WINDSOR POINT BAIT AND SWITCH.

WINDSOR POINT WAS INTENDED FOR VETERANS.

INSTEAD, WE GOT SOME RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF SERIOUS, SERIOUS CRIMES AND THEY'RE ENDANGERING OUR CITIZENS. CARLSBAD POLICE HAS DOCUMENTED.

HORRIFYING TENANT CRIMES.

REQUIRING ALMOST DAILY POLICE INTERVENTION.

THE POLICE WERE CALLED TO WINDSOR POINT 100 TIMES FROM JANUARY TO JULY.

THESE CALLS INCLUDE CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE, CHILD ABUSE, ATTEMPTED MURDER, DRUG DEALING, VARIOUS SHOOTINGS, BURGLARY, VANDALISM, BATTERY CAUSING SERIOUS INJURY, AND EVEN A MAN WIELDING A MACHETE.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST OF THESE CRIMES ARE DONE BY ABOUT 10%.

OF THE RESIDENTS, OR AROUND EIGHT OF THE 80 LIVING THERE, AND ALSO BY THEIR VISITORS.

THE SITUATION IS COSTING CARLSBAD MONEY, WASTING PRECIOUS POLICE TIME AND CREATING AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR CHILDREN.

RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

THIS IS A GRAVE DANGER TO OUR CITY.

WE HAVE TO FIX THIS.

COUNCIL SHOULD FIX THIS.

WE HAVE TO FIX THIS NOW.

THANK YOU.

MARK PACKARD, FOLLOWED BY PIERRE COCHET VINO.

HI AGAIN.

GOOD TO SEE A LOT OF YOU AGAIN.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT WINDSOR POINT.

ALSO, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED SOME OF THE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT MANY OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE.

THERE'S A LOT OF, ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES HAPPENING THERE, BUT ALSO A LOT OF DANGEROUS ACTIVITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE.

AND SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THAT YOU, AS THE COUNCIL, I DID SOME HOMEWORK AND FOUND OUT THAT THE STAFF HAVE, I HAVE INFORMED THE COUNCIL OF THE DEGREE OF PROBLEM THAT THERE IS.

AND SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THE COUNCIL.

THE COUNCIL IS ONE THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECLARE A PUBLIC NUISANCE, TO DECLARE THESE FACILITIES A PUBLIC NUISANCE THAT IS BAD FOR THE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY THEN TO TO ORDER AN ABATEMENT OF THE PROBLEM.

NOW, AN ABATEMENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MEAN TEARING DOWN THE STRUCTURE THAT IT COULD GO AS FAR AS THAT.

BUT BUT THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES OF OF VACATING IT AND THEN REPURPOSING IT FOR WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED.

OR COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS ELIMINATING THOSE WHO ARE THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM.

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BUT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECLARE IT A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND TO ORDER AN ABATEMENT WHICH PUTS A CLOCK ON IT SO THAT IT ACTUALLY WILL HAPPEN.

SO, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU, AS A COUNCIL TO AGENDIZE IT AND TO DECLARE THAT FACILITY AS A PUBLIC NUISANCE WITH AN ORDER OF ABATING THE NUISANCE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD OF.

WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE TONIGHT.

SO, THANK YOU.

IS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WHO SPOKE ON WINDSOR POINTER.

SHE'S STILL HERE. OKAY.

WILL YOU AND MR. PACKARD TALK WITH MANDY MILLS? AND IF YOU GO OVER AND TALK WITH THE POLICE CHIEF RIGHT HERE AT THIS OPEN DOOR, THEY'LL DIRECT YOU, AND THEN SHE CAN AT LEAST SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT ARE BEING MADE. THANK YOU.

DEAR COUNCIL, SINCE 1940, GLOBALLY THE WARMEST DAYS WERE ALL BETWEEN 2015 AND 2024, WITHIN THE SPAN OF THE LAST TEN YEARS.

ALL THE COLDEST DAYS HAPPENED BETWEEN 1940 AND 1976, WITHIN A SPAN OF 37 YEARS.

THIS SHOWS THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS INDEED EXPONENTIAL, EXPONENTIAL AND LIFE THREATENING.

MOST SCIENTISTS AGREE ON THIS.

IN CALIFORNIA, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM TRANSPORTATION ACCOUNT FOR MORE THAN 50%.

THE ULTRA MAJOR IMPACT TO CURB THIS IS GETTING A DECENT, NORMAL PUBLIC TRANSPORT SYSTEM.

IN SANDAG MRS. BURKHOLDER VOTES AGAINST ANY MEASURE FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORT.

ERASING THE EFFECTS OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

WE SHOULD STOP TELLING OURSELVES FAIRY TALES.

IF CARLSBAD IS SERIOUS ABOUT REDUCING FOSSIL FUEL EMISSIONS, IT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY AFFIRM SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORT IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND VOTE FOR IT IN SANDAG ON NOVEMBER 7TH.

A TEENAGER SAID HERE THAT WAITING FOR 2045 WAS TOO LONG.

HOW RIGHT SHE WAS WHEN WE CONSIDER THE REAL CONSEQUENCES OF GLOBAL WARMING FOR HER.

SHE SAID SHE WOULD BE 38 YEARS OLD THEN.

SOME PEOPLE LAUGHED AT THAT.

NOT IN A MEAN WAY, BUT I DIDN'T FIND IT FUNNY AT ALL.

SHE HAS EVERY SCIENTIFIC BASED REASON TO BE VERY WORRIED ABOUT HER FUTURE, AND SHE IS SMART ENOUGH TO SEE THAT SHE WILL BEAR THE FULL BRUNT.

HOW CAN WE OLDER PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? HOW CONVENIENT FOR US.

THIS IS THE REAL QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO HAVE A REAL IMPACT, NOT AN EXCUSE.

MR. MAYOR, I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU ADD CARLSBAD TO THE NATIONAL BIPARTISAN MAYORS FOR CLIMATE GROUP.

BEACH COMMUNITIES ARE MOST VULNERABLE TO GLOBAL WARMING.

OUR BEACHES ARE VANISHING RAPIDLY, AND SAND REPLENISHMENT IS ONLY A SMALL DELAY.

WHAT IS A BEACH COMMUNITY WITHOUT A BEACH? IF YOU MEAN WHAT YOU SAY, THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS MAKE A PUBLIC COMMITMENT WITH THEM AND SEEK USEFUL COOPERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MARY ANN MONK.

OKAY. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M MARIANNE MONK OF VILLA TOPACIO IN TANGLEWOOD.

LIKE MANY HOMEOWNERS' ASSOCIATIONS, TANGLEWOOD HAS BEEN HIT WITH DRASTIC INSURANCE INCREASES EXCEEDING $450,000 OVER LAST YEAR, UP TO $637,000 NOW.

PLUS, THE INSURANCE WAS CANCELED JUST ONE MONTH AFTER FINALLY GETTING COVERAGE DUE TO ZIN CO.

ELECTRICAL PANELS IN SOME OF THE UNITS.

THE AGENT HAD TO SCRAMBLE TO FIND ANY COMPANY TO ACCEPT OUR INSURANCE.

THE KICKER IS A $100,000 DEDUCTIBLE NOW APPLIES TO EACH UNIT THAT HAS ZIN CO PANELS.

TO BE RECONSIDERED, ALL THESE PANELS MUST BE REPLACED.

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WHETHER OWNERS, MANY ELDERLY AND ON VERY LIMITED INCOMES, CAN AFFORD IT OR NOT.

WILL THEY LOSE THEIR HOMES? OWNERS ALREADY HAD A BIG RISE IN MONTHLY DUES, SINCE THE HUGE INSURANCE INCREASE COULD NEVER HAVE BEEN FORESEEN WAY BEYOND ANY COST-OF-LIVING HIKE.

WITHOUT 100% REPLACEMENT COMPLIANCE, THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY WON'T EVEN TALK TO US.

TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, SGA KEEPS ADDING EVER GREATER OBSTACLES TO GETTING THE PANELS REPLACED AS THEY TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.

EVERY DAY LOST IS COSTING US $2,000 IN INSURANCE.

WHILE CITY OFFICIALS SAID THE PANELS ARE STILL IN CODE OR GRANDFATHERED IN, SGA AND INSURANCE DO NOT AGREE.

IS THERE ANY ADVOCATE IN THE CITY TO HELP US NAVIGATE AND EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS, TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THESE PANELS SO WE CAN QUALIFY TO LOOK FOR LESS COSTLY INSURANCE? TANGLEWOOD REPRESENTS ABOUT A THOUSAND OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND WE NEED YOUR HELP.

PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH SOMEONE IN OUR ORGANIZATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MA'AM, I'M GOING TO REFER YOU TO THE POLICE CHIEF OVER HERE.

HE'S OUR NEW DIRECTOR.

HE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE YOU TO JEFF MURPHY.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S ROLE CAN BE IN THIS, BUT JEFF WOULD KNOW, AND HE CAN HELP.

AT LEAST LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO TO HELP YOU.

THE CONTACT IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. NAME IS JEFF MURPHY.

THANK YOU. AND THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF THE FIRST 15 MINUTES.

THE REST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.

[1. ORDINANCE NOS. CS-463 AND CS-464 - AMENDING THE ELECTED OFFICIAL COMPENSATION REVIEW]

WE'RE ON TO ITEM ONE.

WE'RE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE.

CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

ITEM ONE IS ORDINANCE NUMBER CS 436 AND CS 464, AND THIS IS AMENDING ELECTED OFFICIAL COMPENSATION.

THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF IT.

AND WE WOULD ASK FOR COUNCIL TO GO AHEAD AND ACT ON THE SECOND READING.

OKAY. AND I'LL JUST MAKE A FAST EXPLANATION OF WHY THIS IS BROKEN INTO TWO PIECES.

LAST TIME WE VOTED ON IT, IT WAS LUMPED TOGETHER, ALTHOUGH AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WANTED TO VOTE NO ON PART AND YES ON THE OTHER PART.

SO, WE BROKE IT INTO TWO PIECES.

SO, THE FIRST, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS? YES. MARYL UCID.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ATTITUDE OF SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS WITHIN THE CITY, WHO SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE POLICY AND TELL THE CITY COUNCIL WHAT TO DO ABOUT ANYTHING WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIVES OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

YES. I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU FOR JUST A MOMENT THIS TIME.

THIS TOPIC.

PAY ATTENTION TO ME, PLEASE.

THIS TOPIC IS REGARDING.

PLEASE, MISS LUCID, TO INTERRUPT ME AGAIN, I'LL ASK YOU TO SIT.

THIS TOPIC IS ONLY TO EMPLOY COMPENSATION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THE OTHERS.

SO PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CITY WE PAY PEOPLE TO DO YOUR.

THE CITY MANAGER'S BIDDING OR SHOULD WE PAY THEM TO MAKE THE DECISIONS WITHOUT THE CITY COUNCIL? DO THEY DESERVE A PAY RAISE FOR NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING? IN OTHER WORDS, WHO'S RUNNING THE SHOW? THE CITY MANAGER.

WHO'S SUPPOSED TO OVERSEE AND GUIDE DEPARTMENT HEADS AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

WHY ARE WE PAYING PEOPLE WHO AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION AND ARE NOT SERVING? THEY ARE RUINING THE REPUTATIONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE.

YOU OWE ME MINUTES ON THE CLOCK.

ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTED.

THE CITY MANAGER ASKED A SENIOR CENTER TO UPGRADE THE MEALS TO INCLUDE SALADS, AND THAT WAS DONE, MISS LUCID.

THE TOPIC IS THE PAY INCREASE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SHOULD THEY PAY INCREASE BE GIVEN TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS BUT ARE MAKING UP THEIR OWN?

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OR DO YOU ALLOW? DOES THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE TO DO PR MATTERS? IS THAT PART OF THE SHTICK HERE? IF IT SOUNDS GOOD, LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER AND IT LOOKS GOOD ON THE SEASIDE INSIDER, DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU DESERVE A PAY RAISE? IF YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB, AND YOU'RE ALLOWING THE REPUTATION OF CARLSBAD TO GO DOWNHILL? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU GET PAID TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG.

I SHOULD HAVE APPLIED FOR A JOB WITH PARK AND REC BECAUSE IT'S SURE EASIER THAN WORKING FOR A LIVING.

IN ANY CASE.

I ASK YOU TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL YOU HAVE MORE TIME TO ANALYZE WHETHER THEY DESERVE A RAISE, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN UP THE LIBRARIES.

ON SUNDAY.

I MEAN, IF THE CITY MANAGER CAN'T HAVE THE SAME HOURS AS SAN DIEGO CITY COUNCIL.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHAT DOES THE CITY COUNCIL DOING IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY? ALL PEOPLE.

DO YOU DESERVE A RAISE IF THEY'RE JUST DOING WHATEVER BECAUSE THEIRPARK AND REC OR THE LIBRARY AND THEY'RE GOING TO SEND MONEY BACK? I DON'T THINK SO.

DO YOU THINK SO? YOU GET TO WRITE YOUR OWN TICKET AND DO WHATEVER.

WE DON'T WANT THAT.

NO THANK YOU.

YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

WHY DID IT EXPIRE? YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED, MISS LUCID.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO, WE DO NOT.

OKAY. SO, ITEM NUMBER ONE.

LOOKING FOR A MOTION, PLEASE? YES. MOVE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER CS 463.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES 4 TO 1 WITH MISS BURKHOLDER VOTING NO.

AND THEN MOVE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER CS 464.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[2. 2021-2029 HOUSING ELEMENT REZONING PROGRAM (GPA 2022-0001/ZCA 2022-0004/ZC 2022- 0001/AMEND 2023-0008/AMEND 2023-0009/AMEND 2023-0010/AMEND 2023-0011/AMEND 2023- 0012/LCPA 2022-0015/EIR 2022-0007 (PUB 2022-0010)]

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

YES. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE HOUSING ELEMENT REZONING PROGRAM AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION.

WE DO HAVE A PANEL OF PRESENTERS TODAY.

SO, WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, JEFF MURPHY, OUR CITY PLANNER, ERIC LARDY, AND OUR PRINCIPAL PLANNER, ROBERT EFIRD.

GENTLEMEN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE TONIGHT IS THE HOUSING ELEMENT IMPLEMENTATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT UPDATE.

AS WE BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME KEY CONSIDERATIONS OF THIS PROJECT.

THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF A THREE-YEAR PROCESS THAT HAS INCLUDED SIGNIFICANT OUTREACH ON THE COMBINATIONS OF SITES BEFORE YOU TODAY.

THIS INCLUDED INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY, A CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY HAS A CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT AND TODAY'S ACTION IS REQUIRED STEP TO KEEP THAT ELEMENT CERTIFIED.

THE REZONE PROGRAM WAS INCLUDED AS A COMMITMENT IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2021.

THE STATE AT ANY TIME COULD REVIEW OUR HOUSING ELEMENT FOR COMPLIANCE AND REMOVE THAT CERTIFICATION.

IF THE CITY WERE TO LOSE THE CERTIFICATION, WE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE BUILDER'S REMEDY, A STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS APPLICANTS TO PROPOSE PROJECTS WITH CERTAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERCENTAGES IN ANY LOCATION, REGARDLESS OF THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.

AND LASTLY, THE CITY DOES NOT BUILD HOUSING.

THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER HOUSING ELEMENT LAW IS FOR US TO PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN CAPACITY FOR HOUSING THROUGH ZONING.

IF THE ZONING IS CHANGED, A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER MUST DESIGN AND SUBMIT A PROJECT AND GO THROUGH A SEPARATE REVIEW PROCESS.

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS ACTION DOES NOT APPROVE ANY INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

THE REST OF TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION HAS SEVEN PARTS, WHERE WE WILL WALK THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE HISTORY AND SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, THE RESULTS OF OUR ANALYSIS, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ACTIONS UNDERTAKEN, ACTIONS BY THE PLANNING AND HOUSING COMMISSION, AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PROPOSAL PACKAGE.

THIS PROJECT BEGAN WHEN THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE CONCLUDED WITH ADOPTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL 2021.

IN JULY 2021, THE STATE'S DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT.

THE ELEMENT IS THE CITY'S HOUSING PLAN, OR STRATEGY, THROUGH 2029.

IT IS IMPLEMENTED THROUGH MANY PROGRAMS AND OBJECTIVES THAT OFTEN REQUIRE CARLSBAD TO TAKE SPECIFIC ACTIONS BY SPECIFIC DATES.

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THE PROGRAMS IMPLEMENT STATE REQUIREMENTS, ALL WITH THE GOAL TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR A VARIETY OF INCOME LEVELS.

THE ADOPTED HOUSING ELEMENT INCLUDED PROGRAM 1.1 THAT REQUIRES THE CITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE SHORTFALL OF THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, REFERENCED AS RHNA, BASED ON A NUMBER ASSIGNED BY THE STATE AND DISTRIBUTED TO EACH CITY BY SANDAG.

THE ARENA IS A FORECAST OF NEW HOUSING UNITS NEEDED IN CARLSBAD BY INCOME GROUP.

ALL OF THE NEEDED UNITS CANNOT BE ACCOMMODATED BY THE CITY'S EXISTING LAND USE PLAN, SO PROGRAM 1.1 REQUIRES CARLSBAD TO REZONE SITES TO ACCOMMODATE THE UNIT SHORTFALL, AND THIS PROGRAM MUST BE COMPLETED BY APRIL OF THIS YEAR, THREE YEARS AFTER THE ELEMENT WAS APPROVED.

TO BE CONSIDERED AS ELIGIBLE FOR REZONING, SITES MUST BE ELIGIBLE BASED ON-SITE CRITERIA, WHICH CONSIDERS VARIOUS FACTORS INCLUDING LOCATION, SIZE, AND DEVELOPMENT FEASIBILITY. ELIGIBLE SITES MUST ALSO MEET CERTAIN DENSITY STANDARDS OR NUMBER OF HOMES THAT CAN BE BUILT PER ACRE.

IN THE STATE. SIZE DENSITY EQUALS AFFORDABILITY.

WITH THE MORE HOMES PER ACRE, THE MORE AFFORDABLE THE HOMES.

WHILE THE STATE USES DENSITY TO DETERMINE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT CAN BE BUILT ON SITE, IT IS NOT A GREAT PROXY FOR AFFORDABILITY DUE TO HIGH HOUSING, LAND AND LABOR COSTS IN CARLSBAD'S LOCATION.

HOWEVER, THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE THE UNITS WITH A HIGH-DENSITY CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE FORECASTED NEED IN HOUSING UNITS.

AGAIN, IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO BUILD THE HOMES, AND IT IS NOT LIKELY THAT EVERY SITE REZONED WILL DEVELOP THROUGH THE YEAR 2029, THE END OF THE CURRENT HOUSING PLAN.

WHILE RHNA IS A CAPACITY, AN EXERCISE IN CAPACITY AND DENSITY, WE DO ALSO TRACK HOW MUCH HOUSING IS PRODUCED AND BY THE INCOME CATEGORY IT IS PRODUCED AT THE PREVIOUS HOUSING CYCLE.

THE FIFTH COVERED THE YEARS FROM 2013 TO 2021, AND CARLSBAD HAD A NUMBER OF ABOUT 5000 UNITS.

WE ISSUED BUILDING PERMITS FOR OVER OUR REQUIREMENT OF ABOVE MODERATE UNITS.

IT IS HARDER TO BUILD AND TAKE CREDIT FOR UNITS IN THE MODERATE, LOW OR VERY LOW INCOME RANGES, WHICH GENERALLY ARE FROM INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS OR SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.

OUR OVERALL NUMBER OF HOUSING PRODUCED WAS 4109 UNITS FOR THAT TIME FRAME, OR APPROXIMATELY 82% OF OUR GOAL.

WE ARE NOW IN THE PROGRESS OF OUR SIXTH CYCLE IS THE COMPARISON OF THE NUMBERS SHOWS OUR OVERALL REQUIREMENT WENT DOWN, BUT OUR LOWER INCOME REQUIREMENTS WENT UP.

WE ARE A COUPLE OF YEARS INTO THE CYCLE, AND WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO PRODUCING THE ABOVE MODERATE AND MODERATE HOUSING.

THOSE ARE THE EASIEST CATEGORIES TO PRODUCE BECAUSE MARKET RATES COUNT AS ABOVE.

MODERATE AND SOME ADUS QUALIFY AS MODERATE.

THE LOWER INCOME LEVELS ARE THE MOST CHALLENGING, BUT THERE ARE SOME RECENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUING PERMITS FOR HOUSING THROUGH THEIR INCLUSIONARY HOUSING PROGRAMS, INCLUDING MARCIA ACRES, AVR APARTMENTS, AND PACIFIC WIND.

I WILL NOW HAND IT OVER TO SCOTT TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THE HOUSING SITE REZONE COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU ERIC. THE TIMELINE ON THIS SLIDE IS MEANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE PUBLIC PROCESS FOR DETERMINING AND SELECTING SITES FOR REZONING.

THAT PROCESS BEGAN ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, IN JANUARY OF 2020, WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED CITIZENS COMMITTEE.

THE HOUSING ELEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE HELD ITS FIRST OF 14 MEETINGS.

THOSE MEETINGS PROVIDED A PUBLIC FORUM FOR BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, AS WELL AS THE IDENTIFICATION OF POTENTIAL HOUSING SITES.

COMMITTEE MEMBERS CONSIDERED STATE CRITERIA, THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN POLICIES, CONSTRAINTS LIKE SLOPES AND FLOODPLAINS, PUBLIC FEEDBACK, AND PROPERTY OWNER INTEREST.

TO HELP FORMULATE A LIST OF ELIGIBLE SITES, MAPS IDENTIFYING RESIDENTIAL LANDS, CURRENT PLANNING PROJECTS, AND INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES FOR POSSIBLE CONVERSION TO RESIDENTIAL WERE PREPARED TO ASSIST THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE DEVELOPED A SITE SELECTION STRATEGY TO HELP RANK PROPERTIES.

OVER 100 POTENTIAL ELIGIBLE SITES WERE INITIALLY IDENTIFIED.

IN THE SUMMER OF 2020.

THE CITY COUNCIL REVIEWED THIS INFORMATION AND PROVIDED COMMENTS AS PART OF A PUBLIC MEETING IN AUGUST OF THAT YEAR.

FOLLOWING THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE HOUSING ELEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE CONTINUED TO MEET.

IN ADDITION TO REVIEWING THE COMMITTEE'S SELECTION AND SITE STRATEGY, THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO CONSIDERED A PUBLIC INPUT SURVEY THAT WAS CONDUCTED DURING THE SUMMER OF 2020 REGARDING SITES AS WELL AS THE CRITERIA USED TO HELP SELECT THEM.

ALL OF THIS WAS REPORTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND EVENTUALLY ALSO REPORTED TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

HAS IT CONTINUED ITS DELIBERATIONS THROUGH THE YEAR 2020? IN APRIL OF 2021, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND PRELIMINARILY CONFIRMED THAT THE ELIGIBLE SITES THAT COULD BE REZONED TO MEET THE CITY'S REGIONAL

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HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT ERIC DISCUSSED EARLIER.

IN ADDITION, THE ELEMENT'S ADOPTION COMMITTED THE CITY TO COMPLETE ALL NECESSARY REZONINGS BY APRIL 2024.

IN SUMMER OF 2021, THE CITY COUNCIL IDENTIFIED FURTHER PROPERTIES FOR CONSIDERATION, BRINGING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SITES TO 18.

THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO AUTHORIZED PUBLIC OUTREACH ON THE SITES, WHICH RESULTED IN A SURVEY, AS WELL AS TWO PUBLIC WORKSHOPS.

BOTH OF THOSE WERE HELD IN THE FALL.

IN THE SUMMER OF 20.

I'M SORRY I ALREADY SAID THAT.

FINALLY, IN FEBRUARY 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK COLLECTED IN THE FALL AND DIRECTED STAFF TO STUDY TWO MAPS, ONE WITH ALL 18 SITES AND THE OTHER WITH THREE OF THE SITES REMOVED, AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN UNITS ON THE CITY'S TWO COASTER STATIONS.

OF COURSE, PUBLIC OUTREACH AND INVOLVEMENT HAS CONTINUED PAST THIS FEBRUARY 22ND DECISION, WITH THE COMMUNITY WEIGHING IN ON THE PROJECT'S ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW DURING MEETINGS AS WELL AS PUBLIC REVIEW PERIODS.

LET'S NOW TAKE A LOOK AT THE TWO MAPS AND OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION.

THIS IS A SLIDE OF MAP ONE, WHICH INCLUDES ALL 18 SITES AS DIRECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO STUDY AND PROCESS FOR REZONING.

MAP ONE INCLUDES A MIX OF PRIVATE AS WELL AS PUBLICLY OWNED PARCELS, INCLUDING THREE CITY OWNED PARCELS.

THE SITES INCLUDE SITE TWO, WHICH IS THE CITY OWNED PARKING LOT SURROUNDING THE SHOPPES AT CARLSBAD.

NUMEROUS SITES THAT WOULD CONVERT COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL SPACE TO RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS THE TWO CITIES COASTER STATIONS.

WITH REGARDS TO THE COASTER STATIONS, IT IS NOT THE INTENT OF THIS PROJECT TO REPLACE THE COASTER FUNCTIONS OF BOTH OF THOSE SITES, AND IN FACT, NCT HAS INDICATED THAT THE TRANSIT USE, AS WELL AS PARKING OF THOSE SITES, WOULD CONTINUE TO BE ENHANCED WITH ANY REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITES THROUGHOUT THE SITE IDENTIFICATION PROCESS PROPERTIES WERE REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION IF THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THEIR OWNERS.

MAP ONE PROVIDES THE UNITS NECESSARY TO MEET THE CITY'S GROWTH FORECAST, AS WELL AS SATISFY STATE REQUIREMENTS REGARDING RHNA.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS MAP TWO.

THIS IS THE SAME AS MAP ONE, EXCEPT IT HAS FEWER SITES.

IT INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 15 HOUSING SITES BECAUSE IT INCLUDES OR EXCLUDES SITE THREE, A PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF CHESTNUT AND EL CAMINO REAL.

SITE EIGHT, LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD ALONG AVIARA PARKWAY, AND FINALLY SITE 15, WHICH IS THE CITY'S OAK YARD IN THE VILLAGE AREA.

IN ADDITION, AS I MENTIONED, IT INCLUDES AN INCREASE OF UNITS AT BOTH SITE 14, THE VILLAGE COASTER STATION, AND FINALLY SITE 17, THE POINSETTIA COASTER STATION.

AND JUST LIKE MAP ONE, MAP TWO ALSO SATISFIES THE RINA REQUIREMENTS.

THIS NEXT SLIDE HELPS TO SHOW THAT THE HOUSING PROGRAM, THE PROGRAM HERE TO IDENTIFY SITES FOR REZONING, REALLY DOES COMPLEMENT PAST AND ONGOING EFFORTS BY THE CITY TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE HOUSING, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND IN APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS.

TO ILLUSTRATE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS ALL 18 SITES IN RELATION TO LAND ALREADY ZONED TO ACCOMMODATE HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL HOUSING AND EXISTING AND APPROVED UNDER CONSTRUCTION AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THE MAP INDICATES IN YELLOW THE LOCATIONS WHERE EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS BEEN BUILT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND IN ALL QUADRANTS.

MOST TELLING, HOWEVER, IS THE LACK OF VACANT RESIDENTIAL LAND THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS AT BOTH MEDIUM AND HIGHER DENSITIES OR DENSITY SUITABLE FOR MODERATE- AND LOWER-INCOME FAMILIES. THOSE SITES ARE INDICATED WITH THE COLOR RED, AND PRIMARILY THEY CONSIST OF TWO PROPERTIES AT THE END OF CANNON ROAD, AS WELL AS SCATTERED SMALLER PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHICH HELPS TO INDICATE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING SITES.

IN ADDITION, A KEY CONSIDERATION IS THE DISTRIBUTION OF HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY'S FOUR QUADRANTS.

THESE MAPS INDICATE THAT EACH QUADRANT CONTAINS BOTH PROPOSED AND EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITES.

NOW TO THE SOUTH OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, THE CITY'S TWO SOUTHERNMOST QUADRANTS.

DUE TO THE LARGE NUMBER OF MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED THERE SINCE THE 1990S, MOST AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN CARLSBAD IS IN BOTH THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST QUADRANTS, AND WHILE THESE TWO QUADRANTS PROVIDE THE MOST EXISTING AFFORDABLE UNITS, THEY ALSO HAVE THE FEWEST SITES THAT MEET THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR SITE SELECTION. SOME OF THOSE CONSTRAINTS THAT AFFECT SITE SELECTION INCLUDE OPEN SPACE HABITAT, STEEP SLOPES, SDG AND TRANSMISSION CORRIDORS, AND AIRPORT RESTRICTIONS.

ALL OF THESE CONTRIBUTE TO MAKE PROPERTIES INELIGIBLE TO BE CONSIDERED.

AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT BOTH MAPS ONE AND TWO, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DISCLOSE OR, DESCRIBE WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS WITH REGARDS TO THE TWO MAPS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS MAP ONE PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT INCLUDES ALL 18 SITES.

MOST MORE SITES SIMPLY GIVE THE FLEXIBILITY, GIVE THE CITY MORE FLEXIBILITY IN MEETING ITS RHNA NUMBERS AS IT INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD OF DEVELOPMENT AND

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OFFERS GREATER HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.

AND ALTHOUGH SLIGHT, THIS ADVANTAGE OF MORE SITES DECREASES DEPENDENCY ON ANY PARTICULAR SITE TO PROVIDE HOUSING SIMPLY BECAUSE MORE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES EXIST WITH MAP ONE.

FINALLY, MAP ONE ALSO BETTER DISPERSES HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT INCLUDES THREE MORE SITES THAN MAP TWO.

FOR THESE REASONS, MAP ONE IS CONSIDERED THE PROJECT AS ANALYZED IN THE EIR, AND MAP TWO IS PRESENTED AS AN ALTERNATIVE.

AS NOTED, STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF MAP ONE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF MAP ONE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

I WILL NOW PASS THE PRESENTATION TO ROB TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT.

UPDATE. THANK YOU.

SCOTT. THE SAFETY ELEMENT IS ONE OF SEVEN REQUIRED ELEMENTS IN THE GENERAL PLAN.

STATE LAW SPECIFIES WHICH BASELINE TOPICS MUST BE INCLUDED, BUT THESE CAN BE ADDED UPON TO SUIT LOCAL NEEDS.

THE GOAL OF THE SAFETY ELEMENT IS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND ANALYSIS TO DECISION MAKERS, PARTNER AGENCIES AND THE PUBLIC IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF POLICY DIRECTION.

TOPICS ADDRESSED IN THE CARLSBAD PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT INCLUDE.

WILDFIRE. FLOODING.

AIRPORT AND RAILROAD HAZARDS, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, EARTHQUAKES, AND A NEW SECTION RELATED TO THE HAZARDS PRESENTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE.

STATE LAW REQUIRES UPDATES OF THE SAFETY ELEMENT TO BE COORDINATED WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND REGIONAL LOCAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN, WHICH IS A JOINT DOCUMENT BETWEEN THE JURISDICTIONS OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

THE PROPOSED PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT INCLUDES NEW INFORMATION AND ENHANCEMENTS RELATED TO EMERGENCY EVACUATION, CLIMATE ADAPTATION, AND RESILIENCY. UPDATED HAZARD MAPPING AND INFORMATION.

DISASTER ABOUT RECOVERY.

FUNDING AND ELIGIBILITY.

ALIGNMENT WITH OTHER PLANS AND PROGRAMS. CHANGES CONTAINED WITHIN THE ELEMENT INCLUDE THREE NEW MAPS, FIVE UPDATED MAPS, 17 UPDATED POLICIES, 53 NEW POLICIES, AND ONE REMOVED POLICY.

THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE ELEMENT TO CAL FIRE FOR REVIEW AND COMMENT IN RELATION TO STATE SAFETY GOALS AND STANDARDS.

STAFF WORKED WITH CAL FIRE THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ELEMENT TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT WITH THESE STANDARDS.

THE UPDATED PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT WAS CONSIDERED BY THE CALIFORNIA BOARD OF FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION AT THEIR HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023.

BASED ON THAT HEARING, CITY STAFF RECEIVED CONFIRMATION FROM CAL FIRE IN DECEMBER THAT THE UPDATE SATISFIED THEIR EVALUATION CRITERIA AND THEY HAD NO FURTHER RECOMMENDED CHANGES. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE UPDATED PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT.

NEXT, WE WILL REVIEW COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CONDUCTED THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT FOR ALL COMPONENTS.

THE HOUSING ELEMENT REZONE AND PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT UPDATE PROJECT HAS HAD A CONSISTENT TRACK RECORD OF ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDERS.

IN ALL CASES, STAFF HAVE EXCEEDED STANDARD NOTICING AND ENGAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE CONSISTENT AND BROAD PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.

FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL'S LEADERSHIP IN ESTABLISHING THE HOUSING ELEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, STAFF PARTICIPATED IN 19 PUBLIC MEETINGS WHICH WERE PROMOTED AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY INPUT, AND A NUMBER WERE ALSO LIVE STREAMED.

OUTREACH ALSO INCLUDED A PRESENCE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, INCLUDING NEXTDOOR, WITH 48 POSTS MADE, WHICH RESULTED IN MORE THAN 102,000 UNIQUE VIEWS AND NOTICES AND UPDATES WERE NOT JUST PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER, WHICH IS ALLOWABLE FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE OR SCOPE.

INSTEAD, THE CITY SENT DIRECT MAIL NOTICES AT SIX KEY MILESTONES TO MORE THAN 4000 PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS NEAR THE PROPOSED HOUSING SITES.

PUBLIC COMMENT PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT RELATED TO THE FOUR THEMES LISTED HERE.

DIFFERENT COMMENTERS ADVOCATED FOR OR AGAINST EITHER MAP ONE OR MAP TWO, OR FOR OR AGAINST INDIVIDUAL SITES.

MANY COMMENTERS EXPRESSED THEIR DESIRE TO MAINTAIN A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE, CITING CONCERNS ABOUT INCREASED TRAFFIC CONGESTION, INCREASED CRIME, LOSS OF OPEN SPACE OR NATURAL RESOURCES, OR A PERCEIVED LOSS OF COMMUNITY CHARACTER TRADITIONALLY ASSOCIATED WITH LOWER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

FINALLY, SOME COMMENTS RELATED TO TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING ASSUMPTIONS USED TO ESTIMATE AND ANALYZE ALLOWABLE DENSITY IN HOW THE EIR STRUCTURE COULD BE USED BY FUTURE PROJECTS.

I WILL NOW HAND IT BACK TO SCOTT TO DISCUSS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS AND COMMISSION ACTIONS.

THANKS, ROB.

THE EIR ANALYZES ALL PROJECT ASPECTS, INCLUDING ALL SITES, AS WELL AS BOTH MAPS ONE AND TWO.

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THE EIR'S ANALYSIS IS ADEQUATE SO CITY COUNCIL MAY ACT ON EITHER MAP.

IN ADDITION, THE EIR ANALYZES ALL CHANGES PROPOSED TO THE VARIOUS LAND USE DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THE GENERAL PLAN, ZONING ORDINANCE, LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, AND THE VARIOUS MASTER AND SPECIFIC PLANS.

THE EIR IS A SUPPLEMENTAL EIR, MEANING THAT IT SUPPLEMENTS THE 2015 EIR PREPARED FOR THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE.

THAT 2015 EIR STILL CONTAINS VALID INFORMATION RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.

THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIR SIMPLY BRINGS IN THE NEW INFORMATION AND ANALYSIS RELATED TO THE CHANGE CONDITIONS DESCRIBED EARLIER.

AS WITH THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE EIR, THIS SUPPLEMENTAL EIR IS A PROGRAM LEVEL DOCUMENT, MEANING IT ANALYZES ALL THE ACTIONS AS A WHOLE AT A HIGH LEVEL.

BASED ON THE INFORMATION KNOWN AT THIS TIME, IT IS EXPECTED THAT AS INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS COME FORWARD, THAT THEY WOULD PREPARE THEIR OWN PROJECT LEVEL ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS BASED ON THE PROPOSAL AND THE CONDITIONS AT ANY GIVEN SITE.

THE EIR BEGAN WITH THREE PUBLIC SCOPING MEETINGS, AS WELL AS A 30-DAY PUBLIC REVIEW OF WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE NOTICE OF PREPARATION IN FALL 2022.

SEVERAL MONTHS LATER, IN THE SUMMER OF 2023, THE CITY RELEASED THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW, AS WELL AS COMMENT THAT PERIOD ENDED AUGUST 28TH, 2023.

BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HOUSING COMMISSION HAVE REVIEWED AND CONSIDERED THIS PROJECT.

I'D LIKE TO NOW DISCUSS THE RESULTS OF BOTH OF THOSE MEETINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, WITH REGARDS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ON OCTOBER 18TH, THE COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ALL PROJECT COMPONENTS, INCLUDING THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIR. ALL PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, INCLUDING CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT, AS WELL AS BOTH MAPS AND TWO MAPS ONE AND TWO.

AT THE MEETING, 11 SPEAKERS COMMENTED, EXPRESSING SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION TO SOME OF THE SITES AND EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY, WHETHER THERE WAS ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT ABOUT COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, AMONG OTHERS, WERE ISSUES THAT WERE GENERATED BY THE COMMUNITY DUE TO COMMISSIONER CONFLICTS.

A SERIES OF MOTIONS BY THE COMMISSION WAS NECESSARY AS THE SLIDE REFLECTS.

OVERALL, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND CERTIFICATION OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIR APPROVAL OF ALL PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND APPROVAL OF MAP ONE.

THE HOUSING COMMISSION IS WELL HELD.

A PUBLIC HEARING HELD A PUBLIC MEETING ON DECEMBER 14TH OF LAST YEAR.

THE COMMISSION AGENDA INCLUDED AN INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION ON THE REZONING OF THE SITES, AND THEN CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO CONSIDER ESTABLISHING A GREATER AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD APPLY TO THE HOUSING DEVELOPED ON THE 18 SITES, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE HOUSING BUILT ON THOSE SITES TO BE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS WITH LOWER INCOMES.

PRESENTLY, THE CITYWIDE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT IS 15%, AS ESTABLISHED BY OUR INCLUSIONARY HOUSING PROGRAM.

AS PART OF THE 2015 GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, THE CITY COUNCIL APPLIED A 20% AFFORDABLE REQUIREMENT TO SITES REZONED AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, AND IN 2022, AS PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF A FIRST-TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM, THE COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT THE SAME REQUIREMENT, THE 20% MINIMUM AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT, APPLIED TO SITES REZONED AS PART OF THIS CURRENT PROCESS.

WITH REGARDS TO CITY OWNED PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE REZONED, THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAMS REQUIRE A HIGHER LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY BEYOND THAT REQUIRED BY OUR INCLUSIONARY STANDARDS. AT THE COMMISSION'S MEETING, FOUR SPEAKERS EXPRESSED OPINIONS, INCLUDING SUPPORT FOR THE GREATER AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT, AS WELL AS CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUTURE HOUSING AND ADEQUATE PARKING.

THE COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE INFORMATION PRESENTED AND ULTIMATELY VOTED FOUR ONE TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL TWO DIFFERENT AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS ONE FOR CITY OWNED SITES THAT 40% OF ALL HOUSING DEVELOPED ON THEM BE AFFORDABLE TO LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, AND A DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT FOR NON-CITY OWNED SITES THAT 20% OF HOUSING BUILT BE AFFORDABLE TO LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

AND THAT WOULD REPLY APPLY TO ALL REMAINING SITES OTHER THAN THE CITY OWNED SITES.

NEXT, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME JEFF MURPHY, THE CITY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, TO PROVIDE SOME SUMMARY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, SCOTT AND MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING.

STAFF'S COVERED A LOT IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

AND SO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS CLOSE BY HIGHLIGHTING SOME KEY POINTS THAT MAY HELP FRAME THE ISSUES AS YOU BEGIN YOUR DELIBERATIONS TONIGHT.

TONIGHT IS A CULMINATION OF A PROCESS THAT BEGAN IN EARNEST ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL FORMED A CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP OUR NEXT HOUSING PLAN.

SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE GATHERED SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY INPUT THROUGH DOZENS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS AND AS WELL AS USING ONLINE ENGAGEMENT.

WE HAVE LISTENED VERY CAREFULLY TO THE COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK AND DONE OUR LEVEL BEST TO BALANCE COMMUNITY INTERESTS AS WELL AS PRIORITIES WITH WHAT IS LEGALLY REQUIRED AND TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE CONSENSUS.

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IN FACT, COMMUNITIES RARELY REACH CONSENSUS ON HOUSING ISSUES, AND THAT IS WHY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS STEPPED IN.

THE STATE HAS SAID THAT CITIES TODAY ARE NOT APPROVING ENOUGH HOUSING TO MEET PROJECTED NEEDS, WHICH IS DRIVING HOME PRICES AS AS WELL AS CAUSING A WHOLE HOST OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

THE CHALLENGE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA, ESPECIALLY IN THIS REGION, IS THAT RECENT CHANGES IN STATE LAW ARE, IN EFFECT, GREATLY LIMITING OUR DISCRETION AS PLANNERS AND YOUR DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

SO LONG AS THE CITY FOLLOWS STATE HOUSING LAWS, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RETAIN SOME INFLUENCE OVER HOUSING AND THE ACTION BEFORE YOU.

THIS THIS EVENING MEANS TO ACHIEVE THAT END.

NOT MEETING THE STATE'S REQUIREMENT FOR NEW HOUSING HAS CONSEQUENCES.

YOU MAY HEAR COMMENTS TONIGHT THAT WE SHOULD FIGHT THE STATE.

SOME CITIES HAVE TAKEN THE STAND.

BUT FOR A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE RISKS FOR CARLSBAD.

IF THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT APPROVE A HOUSING REZONE PROGRAM.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE ACTION BEFORE YOU IS TO CHANGE CITY ZONING SO THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO BUILD MORE HOUSING AS MARKET CONDITIONS ALLOW. THE CITY ITSELF DOES NOT BUILD THE HOUSING AND YOU ARE NOT APPROVING ANY HOUSING PROJECTS.

TONIGHT'S WITH TONIGHT'S ACTIONS.

FAILING TO MEET HOUSING MANDATES MAY SUBJECT CARLSBAD TO WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE BUILDER'S REMEDY.

WHICH WHERE FUTURE HOUSING CAN BE BUILT ON ANY SITE, AT ANY DENSITY, ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

LOOK AT CITIES LIKE SAN JOSE.

WHO'S WHO, THROUGH BUILDER'S REMEDY, RECEIVED AN APPLICATION INITIALLY PROPOSING 3500 HOMES TO BE BUILT ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT WAS ONCE HOME TO THE CITY'S FLEA MARKET, OR PALO ALTO, WHO RECEIVED A BUILDER'S REMEDY APPLICATION FOR A HOUSING PROJECT THAT INCLUDES 177-FOOT-TALL TOWER IN A ZONE THAT LIMITS BUILDING HEIGHT TO 50FT.

IN BEVERLY HILLS.

THE BUILDER'S REMEDY APPLICATIONS WERE FILED, UP TO SIX BUILDER'S REMEDY APPLICATIONS WERE FILED, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE PLANS FOR EVEN MORE TO BE SUBMITTED, ONE OF WHICH WOULD INVOLVE A 15 FOOT, A 15-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING ON A PROPOSED ON AN EXISTING PARKING LOT.

LOCALLY, DEL MAR IS STRUGGLING WITH THEIR OWN BUILDER'S REMEDY APPLICATION THAT PROPOSES HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG DEL MAR BLUFFS, AND THE LIST GOES ON.

AS OF NOW, CARLSBAD IS IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION THAN THESE OTHER CITIES, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE AN ALARMIST BY SHARING OTHER CITIES' CHALLENGES.

BUT THE NEW REALITY FACING LOCAL CITIES IN CALIFORNIA REGARDING HOUSING NUMBERS IS UNAVOIDABLE.

THE HOUSING PACKAGE BEFORE YOU WAS CREATED THROUGH AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.

OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, THROUGH OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE HOUSING COMMISSION, AND YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL, SOME POTENTIAL SITES HAVE BEEN REMOVED, SOME HAVE BEEN ADDED, SOME HAVE BEEN REDUCED IN DENSITY.

WHAT OTHERS INCREASED.

DURING THIS TIME, THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO TOOK INITIATIVE TO APPROVE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, WHICH WILL HELP ENSURE PROJECTS FIT IN WITH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS COMMUNITY CHARACTER.

IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD, AND I AM PROUD TO STAND BEFORE YOU WITH MY STAFF.

TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS HOUSING PACKAGE.

NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE HAPPY.

YOU WILL LIKELY HEAR TESTIMONY TO THAT POINT TONIGHT.

HOWEVER, TO REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE HOUSING LAW AND AVOID TRIGGERING THE BUILDER'S REMEDY, THE CITY WILL NEED TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION TO REZONE ON THE REZONE PROGRAM AND THE PACKAGE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ACHIEVE THAT END.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL PASS THE PRESENTATION BACK TO MY STAFF TO CLOSE OUT THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. WE'LL CONCLUDE WITH NEXT STEPS ON OUR RECOMMENDATION AS A LEGISLATIVE ACTION.

THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE FINAL DECISION MAKER ON THE PROJECT.

THE AMENDMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE COASTAL ZONE WILL BE EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER THE FINAL CITY COUNCIL ACTION.

SINCE THERE ARE ORDINANCE CHANGES, THOSE WILL TAKE AN INTRODUCTION AND THEN ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND A TWO-HEARING PROCESS.

THE AMENDMENTS TO THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, AND A PROCESS WE EXPECT TO TAKE 12 TO 18 MONTHS.

AND LASTLY, WHILE THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGEST OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAMS, THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON AND IMPLEMENT IN THE HOUSING CYCLE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE YEAR 2029.

THERE ARE A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND REQUESTED DOCUMENTS TO ADOPT.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO ADOPT MAP ONE, MAP TWO, OR ANY COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO MAPS.

WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR HELP THE CITY COUNCIL OF QUESTIONS ON A MOTION TO ADOPT ANY SPECIFIC MAP ALTERNATIVE.

THE ACTIONS ON THE SCREEN ARE THE ACTIONS NEEDED TO ADOPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION MAP ONE.

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AN ADDITIONAL MATERIALS MEMO WAS DISTRIBUTED THAT MODIFIES AN ERROR IN THE FINDING OF FACT AND STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS.

EXHIBIT ONE ATTACHMENT C THE CHANGES PROPOSED TO REFLECT THE CORRECT CONCLUSION THAT ALTERNATIVE TWO MEETS PROJECT OBJECTIVES AND IS A FEASIBLE OPTION.

MAP ONE IS THE STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE.

THEREFORE, THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE WAS PREPARED TO SUPPORT MAP ONE.

THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? 17. OKAY.

NORMALLY I WOULD ASK YOU THIS QUESTION ON THE SIDE, BUT I'LL ASK IT, SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN LUMP ALL OF THESE SPEAKERS ON, SAY, ZONE EIGHT, ALL THE SPEAKERS ON ZONE THREE? SO, WE'RE NOT SKIPPING BACK AND FORTH THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IT MIGHT MAKE IT FLOW A LITTLE SMOOTHER.

IS THAT OKAY TO DO? IS THERE ANY LEGAL REASON WE COULDN'T.

THERE'S NOT. IF THE CONSENSUS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO DO IT THAT WAY.

BUT THE CLERK IS INDICATING THAT WE DIDN'T COLLECT THAT INFORMATION FROM THE SPEAKERS.

OH, WE DIDN'T. OKAY, THEN THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.

MAYOR, PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SAY IT AGAIN. I'M SORRY. PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU. I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.

LORI ROBBINS, FOLLOWED BY BOB PRITCHARD.

AND TO THE SPEAKERS.

IT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER FOR US AND EVEN THE AUDIENCE TO FOLLOW.

IF YOU BEGIN WITH WHAT ZONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

I'M ASKING TONIGHT FOR COUNCIL TO VOTE FOR MAP ONE.

STAFF AND PLANNING BOARD SUPPORT MAP ONE.

IN FACT, THE PLANNING BOARD COMMENTED THAT THE STATE MIGHT NOT READILY ACCEPT MAP TWO, WHICH IS A CHANGE FROM THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL.

MAP ONE SPREADS THE HOUSING MORE EVENLY THROUGH CARLSBAD AND THIS WILL EASE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, ADDRESS OVERCROWDING IN SCHOOLS, AND ALLOW FOR LOWER INFRASTRUCTURE LOADS.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY THAT WAS DONE DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR INCREASE IN CAR TRIPS.

THE CHALLENGE AROUND THE TRAIN TRACKS IN THE VILLAGE WERE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM AND GRIDLOCK IS A THREAT.

THERE IS NO SUPERMARKET, THERE ARE NO SCHOOLS.

THERE'S LITTLE OPEN SPACE, LITTLE PARKING AND WITH NO RESIDENT PARKING REQUIRED, TRAFFIC INCREASE WILL INCLUDE PACKAGE AND GROCERY DELIVERIES. AMAZON AND UBER TRAINS CAN POTENTIALLY SPILL HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.

CHILDREN LOVE TO PLAY ON THE TRACKS.

THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW DEATHS JUST ON MLK.

SOMEONE DIED RIGHT IN CARLSBAD CENTER ON THE TRACK.

THE STUDY. THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY ONLY LOOKED AT HIGHWAY NOISE.

THE TRAIN HORN IS AN ISSUE ALL HOURS OF DAY AND NIGHT.

THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT OPEN SPACE FOR PLAYGROUNDS AND CHILDCARE.

INSTEAD, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER INCREASING THE HOUSING OVER BY THE SEARS SITE, WHERE IT CAN BE LANDSCAPED TO LOOK LIKE BRESSI RANCH, AND RESIDENTS CAN WALK TO RETAIL, GROCERY STORES, MOVIES AND RESTAURANTS.

AND IT PROVIDES ENOUGH SPACE FOR SAFE PLAYGROUNDS AND EVEN A CHILDCARE CENTER.

AND PERHAPS YOU MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO FIT IN A DOG PARK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, BOB PRITCHARD, DISTRICT TWO.

MAYOR, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST SITE FIVE NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS ROUND OF REZONING BUT RECONSIDER IT.

AFTER ALL, CITY OWNED SITES HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AT A HIGHER REQUIRED MINIMUM AFFORDABLE RATE OF 40% AND ALL NON-COASTAL ZONE SITES AT 20%.

THE REASON THE CITY GAINS MORE LONG-TERM RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN CITY OWNED SITES, AND NOT SITES NOT LOCATED IN THE COASTAL ZONE.

THROUGH THE REQUIREMENT OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION ALLOWING SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THE COASTAL ZONE.

CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 6TH, 20 2021 ADOPTED AN UPDATED HOUSING ELEMENT.

INCLUDED WAS 10.41 MARKET CONSTRAINTS 10.41.

CLEARLY RECOGNIZE NON-GOVERNMENTAL MARKET CONSTRAINTS INCLUDED SHORT TERM RENTALS ALLOWED IN THE CITY'S COASTAL ZONE AS AN ISSUE.

AS IT GOES ON TO SAY, IF I MAY QUOTE, THE ALLOWANCE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS THE IN THE COASTAL ZONE COULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING AVAILABLE FOR LONG TERM RENTALS IN THIS AREA.

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CONVERSELY, THE RESTRICTION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY ELIMINATES COMPETITION FOR RENTAL FROM SHORT TERM VISITORS, ENHANCING OVERALL ACCESS TO LONG TERM RENTALS.

PREVIOUS COUNCIL ACCEPTANCE OF THESE FACTS SUPPORTS THE CONSIDERATION OF DELAYING THE REZONING OF SITE FIVE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO ALLOWING HOUSING, ZONING, REZONING OF SITE FIVE INDUSTRIAL SPACE IN THE COASTAL ZONE YIELDS THE LEAST RETURN FOR THE EFFORT OF BOTH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER IN PROVIDING LONG TERM RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.

SITE FIVE.

WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF 60 UNITS BEING DEVELOPED WITH DENSITY BONUS ENHANCEMENT COULD NET POSSIBLY 12 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND POSSIBLY UP TO 48 UNITS AVAILABLE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS.

UNDER DENSITY BONUS RULES, THE DEVELOPER IS ENTITLED TO CONCESSIONS INCLUDING REDUCED PARKING, WHICH IS A CHALLENGE FOR THIS AREA.

TWO- AND THREE-BEDROOM UNITS COULD REQUIRE JUST 1.5 SPACES PER UNIT.

NOT REZONING SITE FIVE APPEARS TO BE THE ONLY OPTION, SINCE THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT MAY NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO INCLUDE IN THE CCNR'S OR THE HOA BYLAWS RESTRICTIONS ON SHORT TERM RENTALS AND ADDITIONAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY BONUS EXEMPTION.

OTHER REASONS TO LOWER SITE FIVE'S PRIORITY FOR REZONING INCLUDE.

HOUSING ELEMENT PUBLIC INPUT REPORT, DECEMBER 2021, PAGE 35, INCLUDES RESPONDENTS CONCERNS FOR SITE FIVE.

TOO MUCH TRAFFIC IN THE AREA ALREADY SURROUNDING AREAS COMPATIBLE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH HOUSING.

THIS INCLUDES THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO MAKE A QUICK REQUEST OF STAFF.

WILL YOU PUT THE MAP UP THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS? SO, WHEN LIKE THE SPEAKER SPOKE OF ZONE FIVE, WE ALL KNOW WHAT ZONE FIVE IS.

IT TOOK ME A MONTH BEFORE I LEARNED ALL OF THESE, SO I DON'T EXPECT THE AUDIENCE TO KNOW IT.

GEORGE SKINNER, FOLLOWED BY MATTIE KILKENNY.

HI GUYS, I'M GEORGE SKINNER.

I LIVE IN SEAGROVE ON THE END OF STATE STREET.

AND I SEE A NUMBER OF MY NEIGHBORS HERE.

I CAN'T SAY ANY OF US ARE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT SITE 14.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD TONIGHT I WAS HOPING TO GET ANSWERED WAS WHAT THE DENSITY IS THAT THE CITY PLANNERS HAVE, ARE CONSIDERING FOR THAT SITE.

THERE WAS SOME I FELT A CONFLICT OF INFORMATION ON WHAT YOU, SENT OUT PRIOR TO THIS MEETING WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT, CALTRANS WAS REQUESTING 30 UNITS PER ACRE, DENSITY.

AND THAT'S MUCH MORE THAN WHAT HAD BEEN PLANNED PREVIOUSLY.

ALSO, THE ACREAGE OF THAT SITE, I THINK THE CITY HAD SAID IT WAS SEVEN ACRES.

CALTRANS SAID IT WAS 17.

SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISPARITY IS OR I'D SURE LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION OF THAT.

I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY HERE.

I'VE LIVED IN CARLSBAD SINCE 2016.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE LIVED IN CARLSBAD.

AND I LOVE THE CITY.

I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, YOU KNOW? AND I FEEL LIKE THESE, THIS UNFETTERED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE HAD IS CHANGING THE WAY THE CITY LOOKS DOWNTOWN IN PARTICULAR.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MASSIVE TRAFFIC ISSUES ON THE WEEKEND AND SOMETIMES DURING THE WEEK, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PARKING ISSUES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE GREATLY EXACERBATED BY THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN SITE 14.

NOW, IF, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I READ IN THE PROSPECTUS, SITE 14 IS EITHER, GOING TO BE 200 UNITS OR UP TO 500 UNITS, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY FIGURE THE DENSITY PER ACRE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS THAT IN CARLSBAD, DOWNTOWN CARLSBAD IN PARTICULAR.

THAT'S INSANE.

YOU KNOW, IT WOULD TOTALLY CHANGE THE WHOLE LOOK OF THE CITY AND, THE LIFESTYLE OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER I BELIEVE THERE'S, AS ONE WOMAN HAD ALREADY MENTIONED, THERE'S OTHER SITES THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE, LIKE DEVELOPING MORE UNITS AT THE MALL. YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER PLACES TO DEVELOP OTHER THAN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR SMALL LITTLE VILLAGE.

ALSO, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO ME SEEMS SORT OF.

I MEAN, I KIND OF GET HOW THE RULES ARE SET UP, BUT TO ME IT SEEMS, UNBELIEVABLE THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF REALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN THE VILLAGE. I JUST CAN'T SEE IT.

I MEAN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE 15% RULE.

THERE'S BEEN NEW, SOME NEW DEVELOPMENTS, LIKE SEA GLASS ON OUR STREET WHERE THEY TOOK, EIGHT UNITS AND SHOEHORNED THEM INTO THIS TINY LITTLE LOT.

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THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SELL THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE.

SO, THE PLANS ARE SO BIZARRE.

AND, AND THE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT WAS 1.6 MILLION.

SO HOW DOES THAT? HOW DOES THAT WORK? YOU KNOW, LIKE IT ALL SOUNDS GREAT ON PAPER, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT JUST DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE IN THE REAL WORLD.

SO, I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS.

I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARITY ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 14 BEFORE MY TIME IS UP BUT THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS MADDIE KILKENNY.

I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE.

I'M HERE TONIGHT, ACTUALLY, ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS OF THE COTTAGE ROW APARTMENTS, THEY ASKED ME TO READ A LETTER THAT THEY SUBMITTED EARLIER TODAY INTO THE RECORD WE ARE WRITING AS THE OWNERS OF HOUSING ELEMENT SITE EIGHT, COTTAGE ROW APARTMENTS.

WE ARE WRITING TO EXPRESS OUR CONTINUED INTEREST IN BEING INCLUDED IN THE CITY'S SIX CYCLE HOUSING ELEMENT AS A SITE TO MEET THE CITY'S REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION.

OUR SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDERUTILIZED, AND WE ARE INTERESTED IN REDEVELOPING THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE PLANNING HORIZON.

IN ADDITION TO BEING LOCATED ALONG A FOUR-LANE MAJOR ROAD, OUR SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN ONE AND A HALF TO TWO MILES OF MAJOR EMPLOYMENT AREAS TO THE NORTHEAST AND EAST, AS WELL AS REGIONAL COMMERCIAL CENTERS TO THE WEST.

THIS LOCATION SUPPORTS THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO REDUCE CO2 EMISSIONS BY REDUCING VMT, BECAUSE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF OUR SITE CAN LIVE, WORK AND PLAY WITHIN A SHORT BICYCLE RIDE, OUR PRIORITY WOULD BE TO DEVELOP A SENSITIVE, HIGH-QUALITY PROJECT THAT ACHIEVES CITY HOUSING GOALS WHILE RESPECTING OUR NEIGHBORS.

WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE MANY CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY REGARDING TRAFFIC AND LEVEL OF SERVICE IMPACTS.

IN LIGHT OF RECENT APARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS FURTHER TO THE NORTH OF OUR SITE, WE SHARE THOSE CONCERNS.

WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO DESIGN A PROJECT THAT ADDRESSES THEIR CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT MAY MINIMIZE OR REDUCE TRAFFIC AND ACCESS IMPACTS.

WE ALSO BELIEVE WE CAN SENSITIVELY DESIGN A SITE PLAN AND DEVELOP ARCHITECTURE THAT RESPECTS THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SOUTH AND WEST OF OUR PROPERTY.

WE HOPE THAT BY PUTTING THIS COMMITMENT IN WRITING, THE CITY AND OUR NEIGHBORS WOULD HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TO ADDRESS THEIR LEGITIMATE CONCERNS THAT WE ALSO SHARE.

WE ARE EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING A HIGH-QUALITY PROJECT TO THE CITY THAT HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO PLAN FOR APPROPRIATE GROWTH SINCE ITS INCEPTION AND PROVIDES AMAZING PUBLIC SERVICES, PARKS, LIBRARIES THROUGH BALANCED LAND USE.

RESPECTFULLY ROD HERREN, SONIA RADIC, RUSSELL RADIC AND I'LL JUST SAY WITH A MINUTE LEFT.

THEY DIDN'T ASK ME TO SAY THIS, BUT THESE ARE JUST NORMAL PEOPLE.

THEY FOUND THEMSELVES ON A SITE THEY'VE OWNED FOR DECADES IN AN UNUSUAL POSITION.

THEY WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.

THEY WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THEY FEEL VERY BEHOLDEN TO THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL.

THEY SEE IT AS THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO, THANK YOU.

ELIZABETH EDMONDSON, FOLLOWED BY ALISON VREDENBURG.

OKAY. SO, HI, I'M LIZ, AND I'M, GOING TO TALK ABOUT SITE THREE, WHICH IS ON CHESTNUT AND EL CAMINO.

IT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL SITE, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD, I THINK, AROUND 30 PLUS UNITS ON LIKE, AN ACRE, ACRE AND A HALF.

AND I'M VERY, VERY AGAINST THIS.

I'M A MOM.

MY THREE KIDS WALK TO SCHOOL ALONG CHESTNUT.

AND IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT STREET, THREE MAJOR SCHOOLS USE THAT CHESTNUT TO GO DOWN TO SCHOOL.

HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF KIDS WALK TO SCHOOL THAT IN THE MORNING.

IN THE AFTERNOON I'D BIKE.

IT IS ALREADY DANGEROUS AS IT IS WITH ALL THESE CARS, ADDING THAT MANY MORE PEOPLE.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE DRIVEWAY WOULD BE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE IT SO DANGEROUS.

LIKE I SAID THIS STREET IS HEAVILY USED, ESPECIALLY DURING SCHOOL HOURS, WHICH I WONDER WHEN THEY CONDUCTED THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, IF IT WAS DONE DURING SCHOOL HOURS BECAUSE YOU COULD BARELY GET OUT ON CHESTNUT WHEN YOU ARE, DURING THOSE HOURS.

IT IS. SO, TRAFFIC IS SO BACKED UP.

ALSO, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACCIDENTS RECENTLY.

JUST YESTERDAY, WHEN I WAS WALKING MY KIDS HOME, THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.

A MONTH AGO, WE HEARD ABOUT THE GIRL THAT GOT HIT ON AN E-BIKE.

WE KNOW ABOUT THE DEATH OF THE WOMAN WHO WAS DRIVING HER, OR HER TODDLER WAS ON THE BACK OF A E-BIKE, AND SHE DIED.

THERE'S JUST ALREADY SO MUCH TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA.

WE DO NOT NEED TO ADD TO IT AND ENDANGER OUR KIDS.

THEY'RE OUR FUTURE OF CARLSBAD.

I HAD ASKED FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY TO BE CONDUCTED.

I SENT AN EMAIL, AND THEY WERE GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN DONE YET, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE WE CONSIDER ADDING MORE HOUSING TO THIS AREA.

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I KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT ASKED COMMUNITY INPUT WITH THE SURVEYS.

AND YEARS AGO, WITH THE SURVEYS.

SITE THREE WAS ONE THAT THEY WANTED REMOVED JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, EL CAMINO IS A HIGHWAY ALREADY ADDING, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT HOUSING AND WITH ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TRAFFIC, IT'S IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOGISTIC AREA TO THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE BETTER.

THAT WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE.

SO, YEAH.

PLEASE TAKE SITE THREE OFF.

THANK YOU.

HI, I'M DR.

ALISON VRADENBURG.

I'VE LIVED IN CARLSBAD FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU PLEASE REMOVE SITE THREE FROM YOUR CONSIDERATION FROM THE UP ZONING.

OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT HAS GONE UNDER A HUGE CHANGE IN TRANSFORMATION.

WE'VE GONE FROM A VILLAGE WHICH WAS ACCURATELY NAMED TO REALLY A CITY.

AND I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEW ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

WE ALREADY HAVE SIRENS AS A BACKGROUND NOISE IN OUR AREA.

WE HEAR THEM ALL THE TIME.

WE HAVE CRASHES BEHIND THE HOUSE TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE A SAFETY BASKET IN OUR GARAGE SO THAT WHEN WE HEAR A CRASH, WE RUN DOWN WITH BLANKETS TO PUT AROUND PEOPLE TO PASS OUT THE WATERS.

SOMETIMES PARAMEDICS NEED TO PICK THEM UP.

SOMETIMES WE BRING KIDS BACK TO OUR HOUSE OR THEIR PETS UNTIL THEY CAN GET HELP, AND TO INCREASE THE DENSITY RIGHT AT THAT LOCATION IS GOING TO ALSO INCREASE THE SAFETY HAZARD.

SO, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS EMERGENCY, REACHING EMERGENCY SERVICES.

TRI-CITY HOSPITAL IS RIGHT THERE.

IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN EL CAMINO REAL MOST OF THE DAY, YOU CAN'T GET TO THE 78 WITHOUT A BACKUP ABOUT TO CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADD THE UP ZONINGS IN AREAS ONE AND TWO.

AND WHEN YOU DO THAT ADDITIONAL BUILDING AROUND THE MALL, EL CAMINO IS GOING TO BE MORE BACKED UP.

CAN YOU IMAGINE? NOW WE'RE ADDING TO SITE THREE, WHICH HAS THE SCHOOL KIDS WALKING AND BIKING DOWN CHESTNUT TO GET TO SCHOOL, AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING OFF THE BUS RIGHT THERE AT THAT CORNER.

SO, I ALSO WANT TO MENTION KIND OF ABOUT BEING EQUITABLE.

MOST OF THE UNITS ARE BEING IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT, AND I REALIZE THE SOUTHEAST, THEY PUT GATES AROUND IT, AND I WISH WE COULD PUT A BIG GATE AROUND THE NORTHWEST. BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH TRAFFIC IN OUR AREA.

AND SO, YOU TALK ABOUT MY MAP ONE DISPERSING EVENLY, BUT I ARGUE IT DOES NOT.

AND I THINK IF WE REALLY LOOK AT THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE ADDED, YOU WILL ALSO AGREE WITH THAT.

FINALLY, I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH SEVERAL SPEAKERS THAT DENSITY DOES NOT EQUAL AFFORDABILITY.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS MORE AFFORDABLE IS ADDING MORE ADUS.

THEY DON'T CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL ON OUR BLOCK WELCOMED.

NO PROBLEM.

IT'S WHERE THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO STAY IN CARLSBAD.

OR MAYBE WE'RE BRINGING IN THE OLDER GENERATION, BUT IT'S NOT PEOPLE FROM OUT OF STATE COMING IN AND TAKING THOSE UNITS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

JOE VREDENBURG, FOLLOWED BY GARY NESSIM.

HELLO, MAYOR. HELLO, COUNCIL.

I'M A 35-YEAR, RESIDENT OF CHESTNUT HEIGHTS AND OLD CARLSBAD.

CAMEO ROAD.

I WANT TO DITTO EVERYTHING THE LAST TWO SPEAKERS SAID, BUT I WANTED TO ADD KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

SO, MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS SITE IF YOU DRIVE DOWN EL CAMINO.

IT'S ONE OF THE LAST EUCALYPTUS GROVES IN THAT AREA.

AND ONE THING I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT HERE IS, CAN YOU ZOOM OUT ON THAT MAP THERE, PLEASE? JUST A LITTLE MORE.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOTICE AS YOU ZOOM OUT AND YOU GO SOUTH, THERE'S ALL OF A SUDDEN, A LOT OF GREEN.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN OUR AREA.

WE HAVE VERY LITTLE OPEN SPACE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST OPEN SPACE AREAS, ESPECIALLY BETWEEN CARLSBAD VILLAGE AND TAMARACK, FROM EL CAMINO ALL THE WAY TO THE COAST.

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VERY LITTLE. THERE'RE A COUPLE PARKS, BUT OUR PARKS AND ARE VERY SMALL COMPARED TO THE PARKS IN THE SOUTH PART.

AS FAR AS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE'S NESTING PAIRS OF RED SHOULDERED HAWKS.

THERE'RE NESTING PAIRS OF GREAT HORNED OWLS, MANY SPECIES OF MAMMALS, BIRDS, AMPHIBIANS. SO IN IN MY MIND, AS A RETIRED AP ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE TEACHER, I SEE IT AS A SENSITIVE HABITAT, AND IT SHOULD BE PROTECTED.

SO, I'M FOR I COULD BE FOR MAP ONE IF IT EXCLUDES THREE.

BUT, IF IT DOESN'T THEN I SUPPORT MAP TWO.

THANK YOU. GARY NESSIM.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF MAP ONE THAT INCLUDES THE MOST AREAS AND SHARES THE RESPONSIBILITY WITH CITYWIDE.

THE THING THAT'S SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THAT IS A PROBLEM WITH THE PROJECT IS THAT ON CITY PROPERTY, THE UNIT SHOULD BE 100% AFFORDABLE UNITS.

WE DON'T REALLY NEED ANY OTHER.

MARKET RATE. UNITS ON CITY PROPERTY.

NONE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SHORTAGE OF MARKET RATE UNITS AND ABOVE.

WE'RE BUILDING EXCESSIVE UNITS EVERY YEAR.

WHY WASTE ALL YOUR UNITS AND YOUR NUMBERS OF RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE? EVERY TIME YOU ALLOW A DENSITY BONUS TO SOMEONE, YOU'VE GOT MORE UNITS, YOU NEED MORE PICKLEBALL COURTS, AMONG OTHER THINGS, AND EVERY ALL THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REQUIRE, WHERE IF YOU JUST ALLOW THE AFFORDABLE UNITS TO BE BUILT, THOSE ARE THE UNITS THAT STATES REQUIRING THEY'RE NOT REQUIRING YOU TO CHANGE THEIR PLAN.

THEY'RE REQUIRING YOU TO MAKE UP FOR THE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT WE DIDN'T BUILD, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PUSH PEOPLE TO DO THE AFFORDABLE UNITS.

SO NOW EVERY CITY STUCK WITH THAT.

WELL, AT LEAST ON CITY PROPERTY, THERE'S NO REASON TO DO ANY LESS THAN 100% AFFORDABLE UNITS.

ALL YOU DO WHEN YOU CREATE, SHARED UNITS, ESPECIALLY ON CITY PROPERTY, IS YOU RAISE THE VALUE OF THE LAND BECAUSE AS YOU PUT MORE MARKET RATE UNITS, THE VALUE OF THE LAND GOES UP. THE DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO BE A FOR PROFIT DEVELOPER BIDS HIGHER ON THE LAND, AND YOU'RE JUST WASTING OUR MONEY, AND YOU'RE HAVING MORE RESIDENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT. EVERY TIME YOU PUT A FEW MORE RESIDENTS, YOU NEED, AS I SAID, A FEW MORE PICKLEBALL COURTS, AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO COST YOU MORE MONEY.

YOU DIDN'T REALIZE NOW. BUT BY ADDING, 10,000 MORE UNITS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MATCHING UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE AND ONLY 20% AFFORDABLE. YOU REALLY NEED THAT TO BE 40% AFFORDABLE.

AND THE CITY IS 100% AFFORDABLE, SUCH THAT YOU HAVE LESS MATCHING EXTRA FACILITIES YOU HAVE TO BUILD.

THAT'S THE BIG CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THIS.

OTHERWISE. AND YOUR DENSITY IS TOO LOW.

REALLY 30 UNITS PER ACRE OR 35 UNITS PER ACRE.

IN THE VILLAGE ALONE IS LUXURY CONDOMINIUMS THAT ARE A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS APIECE.

AND EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE DOESN'T LIKE HIGH DENSITY, ONCE YOU GET UP TO, YOU NEED TO GET UP TO 50 AND 60 UNITS PER ACRE TO ALLOW AFFORDABLE UNITS TO BE COMPETITIVE AND GO INTO PLACES, ESPECIALLY THE SHOPS AT CARLSBAD OR PLAZA CAMINO REAL AND OTHER PLACES.

SO, PLEASE KEEP ALL OF THE SITES ON THERE SO THAT IT CAN BE SPREAD EVENLY, BUT 100% AFFORDABLE UNITS ON THE CITY SITE.

WHY WOULD YOU GIVE AWAY LAND AND BUILD A PRODUCT THAT WE DON'T REALLY NEED? THANKS VERY MUCH.

ROSWELL. FOLLOWED BY ROSEANNE BENTLEY.

GOOD EVENING.

I AM QUITE A HAPPY NEIGHBOR TO AREA 14 FOR ONLY EIGHT YEARS.

I LOVE CARL'S-GOOD, AND I THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE THE NAME AT SOME POINT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS ALL GETS SETTLED.

I HAVE A STORY TO TELL YOU TONIGHT.

I ATTENDED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN OCTOBER, ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS I'VE EVER ATTENDED.

AND THERE WERE I READ THAT THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SEVEN RESIDENT PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

WELL, THERE WAS ONLY FIVE IN ATTENDANCE THAT NIGHT, AND TWO RECUSED THEMSELVES.

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I'M GUESSING BECAUSE OF REAL ESTATE OR SOME SORT OF BUSINESS CONFLICT.

ONE COMMISSIONER HAD TO LEAVE EARLY, SO THAT LEFT TWO.

COMMISSIONERS LEFT, AND TOWARDS THE END OF THE DISCUSSION OF ALL THESE AREAS, SOMEBODY ASKED EACH COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE SEEN ALL 18 AREAS, HAVEN'T YOU? AND THERE WAS SILENCE.

AND BOTH OF THEM SAID YES ON GOOGLE MAPS.

IF THERE HADN'T BEEN A POLICEMAN THERE, I WOULD HAVE STOOD UP AND SAID, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? SO, I JUST HAVE THREE THINGS TO ASK OF THE POWERS THAT BE TONIGHT.

NUMBER ONE IS THAT YOU TAKE SOME TIME, GO HAVE LUNCH IN THE VILLAGE.

GO ABOUT 4 OR 5:00 AT NIGHT, MAYBE 6 P.M., AND CHECK OUT THE PARKING.

I MEAN, I COULD GO OVER EACH POINT AGAIN, BUT YOU'VE ALL HEARD WHAT OUR PROBLEMS ARE.

JUST CHECK OUT THE AVAILABLE PARKING.

CHECK OUT THE PEDESTRIANS, THE CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE WITH DOGS.

AND THINK ABOUT ADDING POTENTIALLY 6 TO 700 PEOPLE IN THAT REGION OF THE VILLAGE.

THAT'S ONE THING I'D LIKE YOU TO DO.

NUMBER TWO, I'D LIKE YOU TO GO THROUGH THE 140 PAGES OF THE.

ALL THESE GENTLEMEN MENTIONED HOW MUCH COMMUNITY OUTREACH THEY HAVE DONE IN THREE YEARS.

IF YOU WENT THROUGH PARTIAL ALL OF THAT DATA, AND I APPRECIATE GETTING NOTIFICATION OF ALL OF THIS, YOU WOULD FIND ALL THE ISSUES THAT EVERYONE HAS ASKED FOR OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SO, WE DON'T NEED TO GO OVER IT AND LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

AND FINALLY, WHEN THIS ALL HAPPENS AND THE DESIGN AND BUILDING START, PLEASE, PLEASE PICK SOMEONE THAT'S FROM THE AREA. AND LET'S NOT GO TO LA OR ORANGE COUNTY OR SAN FRANCISCO AND GET SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW OUR COMMUNITIES.

THANK YOU. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, I ASKED THAT WE NOT CLAP.

IT'S NOT ENTERTAINMENT.

SO PLEASE, LET'S KEEP IT A PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS MEETING.

CLAP FOR ME. I'M ROSEANNE BENTLEY AND I HAVE LIVED IN WHAT IS NOW DISTRICT ONE FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS NOW.

NOTWITHSTANDING STAFF REPORTS, I AGREE THAT SITE THREE NEEDS TO BE ELIMINATED.

AND IN FACT, I'M AGAINST ALL OF YOUR OVERBUILDING.

AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, YOU'VE OVER DEVELOPED AND KIND OF RUINED MY CARLSBAD FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS.

IT'S TROUBLESOME TO BUILD MORE THAN 200, 500,000 UNITS THAT ARE NOT AFFORDABLE FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY WITH LITTLE OR NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS, NO SERVICES SUCH AS GROCERY STORES, SCHOOLS, ETC.

ALONG WITH THE REAL SAFETY ISSUE OF EMERGENCY EXIT OPTIONS ALONG WITH UNGODLY TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. I DO AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID BEFORE ME, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET MY VOICE HEARD.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

SAHIL KHANDWALA, FOLLOWED BY PETER MERTZ.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MAYOR BLACKBURN, MY NAME IS SAHIL KHANDWALA AND I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING SITE TEN IN BRESSI RANCH.

OUR COMPANY, ALPS GROUP, IS A FAMILY-OWNED COMPANY THAT HAS BUILT AND OWNED BUSINESSES HERE IN CARLSBAD FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS.

LIKE OUR CARLSBAD PROJECTS IN THE PAST, WE WANT YOU TO REST ASSURED THAT WE WILL TAKE GREAT CARE IN BRINGING A PROJECT THAT ALIGNS WITH THE VALUES OF OUR CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ASSEMBLED A TEAM THAT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD IN BRESSI RANCH WITH THE KENSINGTON PROJECT.

OUR TEAM HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PROPOSE A PROJECT THAT NOT ONLY COMPLIES WITH SITE PARAMETERS BUT ENHANCES THE VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVEN THOUGH THE ALLOWABLE COUNT FOR OUR SITE IS 49, WE ARE PROPOSING A UNIT COUNT UP TO 49 UNITS, BUT NO MORE.

LIKEWISE, WE WILL NOT PURSUE A STATE DENSITY PROJECT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS AND WANT TO CONTINUE SHOWING OUR SUPPORT FOR THE STAFF PLANNING COMMISSION HOUSING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS TO INCLUDE SITE TEN AS PART OF THE CITYWIDE HOUSING ELEMENT.

THANK YOU.

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HI, I'M PETER MEYERS.

I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE ON ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND LAST YEAR I SERVED AS CHAIR.

WHEN THIS ITEM CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 18TH.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

AND THEY COVERED, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE THINGS.

SO, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, BUT AS NOTED THAT IT DID PASS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE DID PASS IT.

AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

I FEEL LIKE OFTENTIMES ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OF A SUPPORT OR BACKSTOP FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE FACING DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT, HAVE A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO THEM AND THAT YOU CAN RELY ON SOME OF OUR EXPERTISE AND SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING THE HARD CALLS.

AND I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BE HERE PERSONALLY TONIGHT, TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

THEY COVERED MOST OF THE THINGS ALREADY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, NEAR THE END OF OUR LONG, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS AND QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATION, ONE OF OUR ESTEEMED COMMISSIONERS MADE POINTS VERY SIMILAR TO MR. MURPHY. JUST THE IMPORTANCE, YOU KNOW, RECAPPING ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS PROJECT, ALL THE DEDICATION AND THE IMPORTANCE OF PASSING IT.

AND IT DID PASS.

AND AS MR. MURPHY ALSO STATED, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR YOU HAVE HEARD AND YOU WILL HEAR ADDITIONAL OPPOSITION TO PARTICULAR SITES.

BUT AS YOU HEAR THAT OPPOSITION, I JUST WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REMEMBER THE DEDICATION, THE HARD WORK OF STAFF AND ALSO THAT HOUSING ELEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN THEIR WORK OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.

AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF AND FOR ALL THEIR WORK, AND PARTICULARLY FOR COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA WHO SERVED ON THE ON THE ACC.

I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT IT'S NO SMALL FEAT THAT CARLSBAD WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES IN THE COUNTY TO HAVE THEIR HOUSING ELEMENT APPROVED. I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY BIG DEAL AND SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF.

AND SO, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STAND HERE AS I STAND HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN SUPPORT OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT IN FOR THE GOOD FOR THE GOOD OF OUR FINE CITY.

SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BILL HOFFMAN, FOLLOWED BY KIM HERNANDEZ.

THANK YOU, MAYOR BLACKBURN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS BILL HOFFMAN.

HOFFMAN PLANNING ASSOCIATES WITH ADDRESSES AT 5800 PASTOR COURT, SUITE 200 IN CARLSBAD.

AND I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS VERY BRIEF TONIGHT.

I'VE BEEN CLOSELY MONITORING THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING AMENDMENTS PROCESS.

FOR THE LAST 3 TO 4 YEARS, THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN THE MOST VETTED I'VE SEEN OVER MY NEAR 40 YEARS OF CONSULTING IN AND WORKING FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

IT STARTED WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT COMMITTEE, WHICH WORKED TIRELESSLY OVER A VERY LONG PERIOD CHOOSING THESE PARTICULAR SITES.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA FOR YOUR ROLE IN THAT.

IT WAS FURTHER VETTED IN NUMEROUS WORKSHOPS, PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS.

BY THE HOUSING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN IN CHOOSING THE SITES AND NOW TONIGHT AT THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT WENT INTO THIS PROCESS IS STAGGERING.

AND IT'S NOW TIME TO MOVE IT OVER THE FINISH LINE.

AND I'M HOPING THIS HAPPENS TONIGHT.

I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, INCLUDING OPTION ONE, BUT ONE PRIMARY REASON THAT I'M HERE TONIGHT, I'M NOT REPRESENTING ANY ONE SITE, BUT I WANTED TO COMMEND YOUR STAFF FOR THE OUTSTANDING WORK THEY DID THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THERE ARE SO MANY UNNAMED PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE MENTIONED, BUT I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO POINT OUT THE EFFORTS OF SCOTT DONNELL, WHO'S BEEN A ROCK STAR. ERIC LARDY AND JEFF MURPHY.

I KNOW THERE ARE MANY OTHERS AND, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO MENTION EVERYBODY, BUT IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF HIGH-QUALITY WORK, TEAM EFFORT, AND EVERYONE DESERVES TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

SO I'M GOING TO END THERE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS DONE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

HI, I'M KIM AND I'M HERE ABOUT NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA.

I'M GOING TO BASICALLY SAY, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE VILLAGE.

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I'M NEW TO THE VILLAGE IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, BUT I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE I DO HEAR THE TRAINS THAT PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT AND THE EXCESSIVE LOUD NOISE.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUILDING OF THAT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

WE'RE JUST AGREEING TO REZONE WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE FULL PICTURE.

SO, IN MY LETTER TO THE COUNCIL, WHILE REZONING AGENDA ITEM IS IMPORTANT, THE VILLAGE OF CARLSBAD IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME.

IMPORTANT IMPLICATIONS OF SUCH A CHANGE ARE CONSIDERABLE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY INCREASING BUILDING HEIGHTS AND HOUSING DENSITY BEYOND WHAT'S ALREADY CHANGING. I LIVE IN SEAGROVE, AND I'VE SEEN WHAT OCEAN 17 DID, AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY AWFUL.

THE STREET IS AWFUL.

THEY'RE NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN IN ANY OF THESE ZONES, MUCH LIKE THE PEOPLE HERE.

I CAME HERE TO TALK ABOUT SITE 14, BUT I FEEL FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SITES, WE NEED TO RETHINK ABOUT THOSE SITES, ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AS A CITY, PLANNERS.

SO, WHILE DEVELOPMENT IS NECESSARY, ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT MUST ALIGN WITH THE UNIQUE CHARACTER AND AMBIANCE THAT WE DEFINE AS THE VILLAGE OF CARLSBAD AND AS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY IS WOVEN INTO THESE QUALITIES, AND ANY ALTERATION MUST BE APPROACHED WITH A VISION FOR SUSTAINABLE AND PRESERVING OUR COMMUNAL HERITAGE.

IN THE SPIRIT, I IMPLORE THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING.

WHAT IS THE LONG-TERM STRATEGY FOR THIS? REZONING WILL ENSURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT MAINTAINS THE VILLAGE CHARM OR ANY OF THE OTHER AREAS.

IT WILL ENSURE THAT THERE'S CHILDREN'S SAFETY IN ZONE THREE.

WHY MUST THE VILLAGE, WHY MUST SOME OF THESE AREAS WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE GROWING UP, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALLOCATING MORE HOUSING? HOW WILL THE COUNCIL ENSURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS AND THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO SUPPORT THIS ADDITIONAL? THIS ADDITIONAL DENSITY WITHOUT COMPROMISE WILL NOT COMPROMISE THE EXISTING QUALITY OF LIFE.

THESE QUESTIONS ARE NOT TO CHALLENGE THE NECESSITY OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT TO COLLABORATE IN THE FINDING A HARMONIOUS PATH FORWARD.

OUR COLLECTIVE VISION INDEED SHAPES OUR HOME, AND IT IS WITH COLLABORATION.

THAT WE CAN ENSURE CARLSBAD CONTINUES TO THRIVE AND RETAIN ITS BELOVED CHARACTER.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.

BUT I ALSO ASK THAT IN THAT CONSIDERATION, YOU RETHINK ABOUT ALL OF THIS REZONING.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE CREATED A PROBLEM.

YOLANDA HIGGINS, YOU HAVE BOTH BOXES CHECKED.

OKAY. CHRIS BARNES, FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER FORNELL.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF OVER 300 SUPPORTERS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD PETITION THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST MONTH, A COUPLE DOZEN OF WHICH ARE HERE TODAY, AND THEY'VE ASKED ME TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.

IN EXCHANGE, I MIGHT ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THAN THREE MINUTES, IF THAT'S OKAY.

THEY HAVE TO ASK IN ADVANCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? I'LL MAKE YOU A COMPROMISE.

WE'LL START YOUR TIME STARTING RIGHT OVER RIGHT NOW.

BUT YOU ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES, OKAY? YOU HAD TO ASK FOR THAT IN ADVANCE.

THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS.

WE'RE HERE TO.

IN OPPOSITION OF SITE EIGHT.

AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT I'M THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING TODAY ON THEIR BEHALF.

THIS AREA, THIS IS FOR TWO VERY IMPORTANT REASONS.

THIS AREA WILL SOON ALREADY BE OVERSATURATED WITH HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.

AND SECONDLY, SITE EIGHT POSES MAJOR INGRESS EGRESS OBSTACLES.

IF YOU ZOOM IN ON THIS MAP, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, HOW THAT HOW THAT WORKS.

RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO SITE EIGHT IS THE 329-UNIT AVIARA APARTMENTS PROJECT, WHICH IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN DECEMBER OF 2020, WHICH WAS AFTER SITE EIGHT WAS PROPOSED TO BE ADDED TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT IN OCTOBER OF 2020.

SO, IN OTHER WORDS, THE COMMITTEE ADDED SITE EIGHT WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THIS 329-DEVELOPMENT UNIT DEVELOPMENT AT AVIARA APARTMENTS.

WHICH HAPPENED TWO MONTHS LATER.

IF YOU COUNT THE EXISTING PROJECTS IN THAT SHORT LITTLE VICINITY, YOU HAVE THE LOYAL LAUREL TREE APARTMENTS, 138 UNITS AT THE AVIARA

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APARTMENTS. THAT'S 329 UNITS.

THE PROPOSED DENSITY FOR SITE EIGHT IS ANOTHER 150 UNITS.

THAT'S 617 UNITS IN A VERY SMALL 25-ACRE AREA.

ACCORDING TO THE LATEST CENSUS NUMBERS, THIS REPRESENTS ABOUT TEN TIMES THE AVERAGE DENSITY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

TEN TIMES IS ENOUGH.

WE CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE.

COTTAGE ROW IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THIS ADDED DENSITY.

AGAIN, IF YOU ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ONLY INGRESS EGRESS, FOR SITE EIGHT IS FLAME TREE LANE, WHICH IS A RIGHT TURN ONLY EXITING ONTO AVIARA PARKWAY.

THIS MEANS, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THE PROXIMITY TO MARIPOSA AND LAUREL TREE ROAD.

YOU'D BE ON.

EXCUSE ME? YOU'D BE UNABLE TO BUILD A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE.

IT'D BE TOO CLOSE TO THE OTHER TO THE OTHER INTERSECTIONS.

AS A RESULT, THIS LEAVES MARIPOSA ROAD, THE RESIDENTIAL ROAD THAT RUNS THROUGH THE SHAW POINT NEIGHBORHOOD, AS THE ONLY AS THE MAIN INGRESS EGRESS ROUTE FOR SITE EIGHT.

SO, IF SITE EIGHT WERE TO BE UP ZONED TO INCREASE FROM THE CURRENT 24 UNITS TO 150 UNITS, YOU WOULD TAKE WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE SITUATION OF ROUGHLY 40 CARS A DAY, GOING IN AND OUT OF MARIPOSA ROAD TO MORE THAN 200 CARS GOING IN AND OUT OF AN R-4 RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

THERE WILL BE DISASTROUS FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

IT WOULD EXACERBATE TRAFFIC, PARKING PROBLEMS. MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WOULD CREATE VERY DANGEROUS, SAFETY HAZARDS FOR THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES LIVING AND PLAYING ALONG THAT ROAD.

SOME BOILS DOWN TO A COST BENEFIT.

THE BENEFITS OF ADDING A NET ONLY 136 UNITS AT COTTAGE ROW DOES NOT OUTWEIGH THE COSTS.

PLEASE REMOVE SIDE.

HI, EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS JENNIFER FORNELL, AND I AM A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD.

I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY, SPECIFICALLY MY FATHER, WHO'S LIVED IN CARLSBAD FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS AND IS THE PRINCIPAL OWNER OF SITE THREE.

I ALSO HAVE MY BROTHER STANDING HERE WITH ME IN SUPPORT.

FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS, MY HUSBAND, WHO'S LOCKED OUTSIDE, AND I HAVE PROUDLY CALLED CARLSBAD OUR HOME.

WE'VE RAISED OUR DAUGHTERS IN THE SAME HOUSE WE BOUGHT IN 2007 ON A CUL-DE-SAC AND A WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR POINSETTIA PARK.

OUR DAUGHTERS HAVE BUILT LIFELONG FRIENDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND GREATLY BENEFITED FROM ATTENDING CARLSBAD SCHOOLS.

MY DAD IS INTERESTED IN CREATING A COMMUNITY ON SITE THREE, WHERE YOUNG FAMILIES WILL HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN CARLSBAD AND EXPERIENCE BUILDING LIFELONG FRIENDSHIPS LIKE HIS GRANDDAUGHTERS.

AND BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY MY FATHER HAS DEFINITELY TAKEN SAFETY INTO CONSIDERATION IN HIS PLANS.

I AM HERE TONIGHT TO URGE THE COUNCIL TO KEEP SITE THREE, WHICH IS 2.45 ACRES IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT PLAN, AND TO HIGHLIGHT PUBLICLY THE EFFORTS MY FATHER'S TEAM HAS TAKEN TO ADDRESS CONCERNS RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORS THROUGH THE CITY'S COMMUNITY SURVEY, LOCAL CONVERSATIONS AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT.

TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC CAN REVIEW RESPONSES FOR THEMSELVES AND ALL THE WORK DONE TO DATE, HE'S CREATED A WEBSITE.

YOU CAN FIND IT AT CHESTNUT CARLSBAD.COM.

AND WITHIN THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF PUBLISHING THIS SITE, WE'VE RECEIVED OVER 60 SUPPORTIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE DESIGN FROM BOTH CARLSBAD RESIDENTS AND THOSE INTERESTED IN MOVING TO OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.

I'VE SHARED THOSE COMMENTS WITH THE CITY CLERK TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.

MY FATHER AND PARTNERSHIP WITH DUSTY BERNARD HAVE OWNED THIS SITE SINCE 1989.

THE VISION FOR THE SITE HAS EVOLVED OVER THREE DECADES.

INITIALLY, THEY CONSIDERED THE SITE FOR A SMALL RETAIL CENTER, INCLUDING A WALGREEN'S PHARMACY.

BUT THE OLD WIDTH OF THE EL CAMINO REAL POSED CHALLENGES.

SOON AFTER MAYOR BUD LEWIS, FORMER MAYOR BUD LEWIS ENCOURAGED THEM TO SUBMIT A PRELIMINARY APPLICATION FOR 127-UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING.

BUT NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK LED TO ITS DISMISSAL IN 2019 WITH GUIDANCE FROM FORMER PLANNING DIRECTOR DON NEU.

MY FATHER'S TEAM REVISED THEIR PLANS AND DESIGNED A LESS DENSE, DENSE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT OF 36 NEW UNITS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE WEBSITE, AND LATER REQUESTS REQUESTED INCLUSION IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT PLAN.

THE CURRENT DESIGN INCLUDES 26 TOWNHOMES AND TEN SMALLER FLATS, ALL PARKED TO CODE WITH THE PROPOSED UPZONE TO AR-15.

WE EXPECT TO CONTRIBUTE AT LEAST 20% OF THE UNITS TO THE AFFORDABLE LEVELS TO HELP THE CITY MEET ITS GOALS.

ALSO, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT THE DRIVEWAY CUT OUT WOULD BE ALONG EL CAMINO REAL, NOT ALONG CHESTNUT.

WE RECOGNIZE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP SITE THREE AS IT IS ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR CONTINUED OBLIGATION TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR

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NEIGHBORS TO DESIGN AN APPROPRIATE PROJECT.

WE WANT TO ASSURE THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO ADDRESSING NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS AND HAVE PROVIDED.

JACOB ZUNIGA.

MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JACOB ZUNIC. I'M ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY OF TERRACES AT SUNNY CREEK, ALONG WITH YOLANDA HIGGINS AND A NUMBER OF OUR RESIDENTS HERE TONIGHT.

WE'RE FOCUSED ON SITE FOUR.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN WITH IS WE KNOW AND WELCOME SOME DEVELOPMENT ON SITE FOUR.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND IT'S GONE THROUGH A NUMBER OF ITERATIONS.

THE COMMERCIAL SITE WAS THEN ADJUSTED TO BE A MIXED-USE SITE, OF WHICH THE COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTIVE.

THE RECENT CHANGE TO SUGGEST THAT THIS WAS GOING TO GO TO A HIGH-DENSITY SITE, WHEN WE HAVE A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX JUST AROUND THE CORNER HERE, NO CONNECTING INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH TO THE OTHER SIDE BY THE HIGH SCHOOL AND A LACK OF, PLANS AROUND WHAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY SEE IN THAT LOCATION.

WE DO NOT SUPPORT A HIGH DENSITY, CHANGE WHEN WE WERE NOT INVOLVED AND THE COMMUNITY WAS INVOLVED THROUGH THE OTHER ITERATIONS, WE WERE NOT ENGAGED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE PLANS AND THE APPROACH THAT THE CITY WAS LOOKING TO TAKE.

SO WHILE WE ARE VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF SOME DEVELOPMENT.

WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE A LAST-MINUTE CHANGE, OR WHAT APPEARS TO US TO BE A LAST-MINUTE CHANGE, TO GO FROM 150 TO 220 SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE, UP TO 4 OR 500, MAYBE EVEN 600 UNITS IN THE 17 PLUS ACRES YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN.

SO, WHILE WE'RE VERY MUCH EAGER TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND ENGAGE WITH THE CITY TO HELP WITH THE PLANS, THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY DONE IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO, AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, WITH ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER AND RESIDENTS HERE, WE ASK THAT YOU RETURN THE SITE FOR ZONING TO THE ZONING THAT HAD BEEN AGREED UPON AND EXISTED AS A MIXED-USE ZONING FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH A HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL ONLY PLAN.

I'LL ADD TO THAT.

EXCUSE ME. MR. ZUNIC IS THE ONE WHO SIGNED UP.

WE DON'T ALLOW SHARED TIME.

OH. THAT'S WHY.

DID YOU HAVE A SPEAKER SLIP IN? SHE DID, DIDN'T YOU? DID AS SOON AS MR. ZUNIC WAS FINISHED. THEN WE'LL CALL YOU AND YOU CAN SPEAK.

WE HAVE TO KEEP ORDER.

UNDERSTAND? I'LL YIELD MY TIME.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S A NATURAL HABITAT BEHIND THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

SO, WE WOULD HATE TO JEOPARDIZE ANY OF THE NATURAL HABITAT AREA AND THE CONGESTION THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE ON EL CAMINO REAL, WHICH IS ALREADY VERY MUCH CONGESTED AT PEAK TIMES, WILL JUST OVEREXAGGERATE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE ONTO EL CAMINO REAL.

THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TEN-MINUTE BREAK.

THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 12 MINUTES UNTIL SEVEN.

MAYOR, CAN YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY BEFORE WE.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME THAT I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE IN RECESS FOR TEN MINUTES.

I'M CALLING OUR MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF IF YOU COULD AT LEAST SOME OF THE OVERALL, TOPICS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE SPEAKERS, IF YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME OF SOME OF THOSE. THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO, ADDRESSING SOME OF THE HIGH-LEVEL ITEMS, ONE OF THE ITEMS FOR CLARIFICATION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOOK THREE ACTIONS, AND THAT WAS BROKEN UP, GIVEN THE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS RELATED TO THEM.

AT NO TIME WERE THERE LESS THAN FOUR COMMISSIONERS REVIEWING AND TAKING ACTION THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS THAN A QUORUM.

AND FIVE COMMISSIONERS VOTED TO RECOMMEND MAP ONE, WHICH IS OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTS RELATED TO THE NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT OWNED PROPERTY WITHIN THE VILLAGE THAT IS SITE 15.

A COUPLE THINGS WE WANTED TO CLARIFY THERE.

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THERE'S SORRY 14.

THERE IS NO REZONE ACTUALLY PROPOSED FOR THAT SITE.

WHAT THE ACTION IS, IS TO INCLUDE ASSUMPTION OF UNIT COUNTS.

FOR THAT SITE. THAT SITE IS SUBJECT TO THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN, WHICH DOES ALREADY INCLUDE A DENSITY OF UP TO 35 ACRES.

OUR PROCESS STARTED BEFORE NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT'S EFFORTS TO REVIEW AND PUT THAT PROPERTY OUT FOR BID.

AND SO WE HAVE SEEN SOME PRELIMINARY INFORMATION FROM NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT TO THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD GO HIGHER THAN OUR UNIT NUMBERS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROPOSED PROJECT IN FRONT OF US THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SUBMITTED TO US AND EVALUATED CONSISTENT WITH OUR REGULATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN.

THEY ALSO SOME OF THE PROPOSALS DO INCLUDE A LARGER PARCEL SIZE.

WE ARE PRIMARILY LOOKING AT THE PARKING LOT.

NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DOES OWN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY THERE.

SO, THAT'S THE DISCREPANCY AND THE NUMBERS FROM WHAT WE STUDIED VERSUS WHAT WAS STUDIED BY NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT.

ONE OF THE COMMENTS AND SOME OF THEM WERE MADE ON THE SITE SELECTION.

AS A REMINDER, WE'RE REQUIRED TO LOOK FOR VACANT PROPERTY.

IT'S ALL VACANT PRIVATE PROPERTY.

NONE OF IT IS DEED RESTRICTED OPEN SPACE.

BUT DRIVING BY SOME OF THEM, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEED RESTRICTED OPEN SPACE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S SOME COMMENTS AND ITEMS. OUR EIR DID REVIEW IMPACTS TO BIOLOGY AND WILDLIFE, AND IT DID IDENTIFY SOME THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MITIGATED FOR PROJECTS IF UNDER SUBMISSION THAT WOULD ALL BE REVIEWED, EITHER AVOIDED OR MITIGATED DURING PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING A HIGHER DENSITY, A HIGHER REQUIREMENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, 20% IN LIEU OF 15 FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND 40% FOR THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES AS A MINIMUM.

THE CITY COUNCIL AS IT REVIEWS AND MOVES FORWARD WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THOSE CITY-OWNED SITES, IT COULD BE HIGHER.

WE THOUGHT 40% WAS THE BEST MINIMUM TO GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL FLEXIBILITY DOWN THE LINE.

WE ALSO DID TRAFFIC STUDIES ON ALL OF THE SITES, BUT EACH SITE WILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE REGULATIONS AND TRAFFIC ORDINANCES WE DO HAVE NATHAN SCHMIDT, THE MOBILITY MANAGER, WHO'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SPECIFIC TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE FOR THE SITES.

AND THEN JUST TO SUMMARIZE, WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS OPPOSED TO SITES FIVE, THREE, FOUR, EIGHT AND 14.

WE DIDN'T RECEIVE COMMENTS, AT LEAST IN VERBALLY TONIGHT OPPOSED TO THE OTHER SITES.

SITE THREE AND SITE EIGHT WERE SITES THAT WERE REMOVED ON MAP TWO SO THEY COULD BE REMOVED IN THE PROPOSAL BY EITHER ADOPTING MAP TWO OR REMOVING THEM FROM MAP ONE BECAUSE IT WAS REMOVED FROM THERE.

AND THEN SITE 15, WHICH WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OPPOSITION TO IT SPECIFICALLY, IT IS WITHIN THE VILLAGE, AND WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE VILLAGE.

IT'S THE CITY-OWNED OAK YARD.

IT WAS ALSO STUDIED AS REMOVED ON MAP TWO, SO IT COULD BE REMOVED FROM THE PROJECT BY EITHER ADOPTING MAP TWO OR REMOVING IT FROM MAP ONE.

THAT IS OUR SUMMARY OF COMMENTS.

BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF ANYTHING WE MAY HAVE MISSED.

I'LL BE. I'LL BEGIN WITH THE QUESTIONS.

SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS INCLUDE.

TRAFFIC VIOLATION OF OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.

SCHOOL OVERCROWDING.

WOULD YOU ADDRESS WHAT THE STATE'S OPINION IS ON ALL THOSE ARGUMENTS? SURE. SO, WITH RESPECT TO THE RHNA ALLOCATION AND THE REGULATIONS, THE STATE SAID THAT WE CAN NO LONGER HAVE ANY UNIT CAP AND WE MUST COMPLY WITH THE RENA NUMBER THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US AS PART OF THE ACTION.

IN APRIL 2021, THE CITY COUNCIL SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN DIRECTLY IN RESPONSE TO RECOMMENDATION AND ADVICE FROM THE STATE THAT IT NEEDED TO DO THAT TO REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.

THAT WOULD ALSO GO FOR THE PROVISIONS OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT THAT RELATE TO TRAFFIC AND LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE ROADS.

WITH RESPECT TO SCHOOLS, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS A NUMBER OF TIMES THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AS WELL AS THROUGH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN PROCESS.

WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION FROM ANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS RELATED TO THEIR CAPACITY GIVEN TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I'M I'M GOING TO BE A LITTLE BLUNT.

OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS DESIGNED TO SAY, ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD FASTER THAN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE.

IS THAT IS THAT AN ACCURATE SUMMATION? YES IT IS. AND THAT WAS VOTED ON BY THE RESIDENTS.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

AND THAT WAS 25 YEARS AGO.

HOW LONG AGO? APPROXIMATELY.

IT WAS, 1986, A LONG TIME AGO.

AND MAY SOUND A LITTLE SARCASTIC, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET THE POINT ACROSS.

THIS WAS DESIGNED TO MAKE OUR CITY GROW NO FASTER THAN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE IT.

AND OUR RESIDENTS VOTED ON THIS, AND THIS WAS OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.

TODAY, THE STATE SAYS ESSENTIALLY, WE THINK IT'S ADORABLE THAT YOU HAVE A GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, BUT WE DON'T CARE.

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YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THESE EXTRA UNITS.

WE DON'T CARE.

AND IF YOU DON'T BUILD THEM, THEN WHAT WAS THAT OTHER THAT PHRASE THAT SAYS, THEN WE'LL JUST LET DEVELOPERS BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT, WHENEVER, WHEREVER THEY WANT.

IF WE DO NOT HAVE A CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT, THE BUILDER'S REMEDY WOULD COME INTO PLAY, WHICH WOULD LET A DEVELOPER PROPOSE AN APPLICATION REGARDLESS OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

OKAY, SO THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THIS COUNCIL SHARES THAT FRUSTRATION.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS VERY BLUNT WITH THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO COME HERE TODAY TO UNDERSTAND THE WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST.

THOSE ARE MY ONLY QUESTIONS.

SO, MISS BHAT-PATEL.

SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY FOR SHOWING UP AND TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSY SCHEDULES TO BE HERE.

JUST A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN I JUST HAVE COMMENTS LATER.

SO I KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY REMOVE A SITE OR SITES.

DOES THAT PRECLUDE THAT PROPERTY OWNER FROM COMING BACK AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT SITE IN THE FUTURE? NO, THAT IS NOT ANY PROPERTY OWNER COULD PROPOSE A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.

AT ANY TIME.

IN THIS CASE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY RELY ON THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE EIR THAT WE PREPARED FOR A FUTURE PROJECT.

OKAY. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IT WOULD MEAN TONIGHT IF WE WERE TO REMOVE A SITE? IF WE REMOVED A SITE THAT WE WERE PROPOSING A REZONE, THE EXISTING ZONING AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE.

THEY COULD EITHER DEVELOP AT THAT LEVEL OR PROPOSE SOMETHING.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'D BE REQUIRED TO PROCESS THEIR OWN GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IT'S A POSSIBLE A POSSIBILITY FOR US TO LOOK AT A COMBINATION OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

SO WITH THAT, ARE WE ABLE TO CONSIDER REMOVAL OF ANY OTHER SITES THAT WERE NOT STUDIED? NO, WE ARE NOT OR WILL, AT LEAST NOT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT STUDY TWO MAP ALTERNATIVES, WHICH INCLUDED DOING AN ANALYSIS WITH MODELS THAT FED INTO THE DIFFERENT SUBJECT TOPIC AREAS.

BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO ADOPT SOMETHING THAT'S EITHER MAP ONE, MAP TWO, OR IN BETWEEN, WHICH MEANS THE THREE SITES ESSENTIALLY IN QUESTION WOULD BE SITES THREE, EIGHT, AND 15.

OKAY. AND THEN.

JUST A COUPLE MORE.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE? AND I THOUGHT I HAD SEEN IT.

MAYBE IT WAS IN OUR REPORT.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE DISTRIBUTION OF HOUSING BASED ON DISTRICT AND QUADRANT, AND JUST THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT'S BUILT? OKAY. I THINK IT'S JUST NUMBER OF UNITS.

MAYBE. I THOUGHT THERE WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT SHOWED THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT'S ALSO BUILT IN EACH DISTRICT.

WELL, WHAT WE HAVE IS A TABLE THAT SHOWS THE NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED IN EACH DISTRICT.

WE ALSO, IF YOU GO TO 88 SHOW IT BY.

QUADRANT. AND THEN WE DO HAVE A MAP, BECAUSE THE DISTRICTS AND QUADRANT BOUNDARIES ARE OF COURSE DIFFERENT.

WE HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS THE DISTRIBUTION SLIDES 90 AND 91.

AND THOSE ARE JUST THE PROPOSED ONES, RIGHT? YOU. I THOUGHT I HAD SEEN SOMETHING WHICH SHOWED US WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AND THEN HOW THIS WOULD LOOK.

ONCE WE ADD THESE ON.

SORRY. THANK YOU. WHAT THIS IS, IS IS, SHOWING WHAT MAP ONE WOULD LOOK LIKE SHOWING THE EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS THE FIRST ROW.

THE NORTHEAST AND NORTHWEST DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH AS EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF WHEN THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST QUADRANTS DEVELOPED.

THEY HAD MORE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENTS WHEN THEY DEVELOPED.

THE SECOND ROW IS APPROVED, UNBUILT AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

AND THEN THE THIRD ROW IS EXISTING VACANT CAPACITY.

SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO REZONE TODAY.

AND THEN THE GREEN ROW IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.

THE POTENTIAL REZONES AS THEY ARE DISTRIBUTED BY DISTRICTS AND THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT IS THE LARGEST.

IT ALSO INCLUDES THE LARGEST SITES, WHICH ARE SITES ONE AND TWO, WHICH INCLUDE THE MALL AND THE SHOPPING CENTER NEXT TO IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT EXTRA INFORMATION.

I'M JUST LOOKING TO SEE.

I THINK I HAD ONE MORE.

YES. ONE MORE.

YOU MENTIONED FOR SITE 14 THAT, THE WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO UPZONE THAT PROPERTY.

IS THAT ACCURATE? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. MISS ACOSTA.

GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU, AND SOME OF THEM TIE INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

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I'M SUPER HAPPY THAT WE GOT SUCH A GREAT, GROUP OF OF FOLKS SHARING THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

ONE WAS ABOUT TRAFFIC.

HOW WAS TRAFFIC CONSIDERED? I KNOW, MR. LARDY, YOU JUST ALLUDED TO MR. SCHMIDT BEING KIND OF OUR EXPERT ON HOW TRAFFIC WAS WAS CONSIDERED DURING THIS PROCESS, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

SO THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT PRETTY IN DEPTH ANALYZES THAT WE TOOK AS IT RELATED TO TRAFFIC WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

IT ANALYZED VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.

AND SO THAT IS REALLY IN SERVICE OF THE VMT ANALYSIS AND THE GHG ANALYSIS THAT IS REQUIRED AS A PART OF THE STATE'S SIGNIFICANCE CRITERIA RELATED TO THE ENVIRONMENT. THERE WERE LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYZES DONE AS A PART OF THAT, BUT THAT'S NO LONGER A CRITERIA IN SEQUA.

SO ACTUALLY, THE CITY UNDERTOOK A SEPARATE LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID INTERNALLY.

AND SO AGAIN, SEPARATE FROM SEQUA.

BUT THAT LOOKED AT ALL THE ROADWAY SEGMENTS WITHIN THE CITY COMPREHENSIVELY.

AND SO LOOKING AT ALL 18 SITES, WHAT THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF UNITS WOULD DO TO THE ROADWAY NETWORK AND ANALYZE THE CHANGES IN LEVEL OF SERVICE RELATED TO THAT.

OKAY, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO REPHRASE THE QUESTION SO THAT IT'S MORE EASY TO UNDERSTAND WITHOUT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE IS, AND I UNDERSTAND SEQUA AND BUT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND HOW TRAFFIC WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITH EACH SITE, MAYBE WE COULD REPHRASE THAT IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT REALLY CLEAR THAT TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

ABSOLUTELY. SO TO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

AND WHEN I SAY LEVEL OF SERVICE, THAT BASICALLY IS A CAPACITY, METRIC THAT TELLS YOU HOW MANY CARS ARE ON THE ROADWAY.

AND BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE AS IT RELATES TO CONGESTION.

AND DIFFERENT ROADS ARE DESIGNED TO HANDLE CERTAIN NUMBERS OF CARS FOR A CERTAIN THROUGHPUT AND INTERSECTIONS AS WELL.

SO WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, WE DID ANALYZE THE ENTIRE NETWORK AGAIN WITH ALL 18 SITES THAT ARE PROPOSED AND THE UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED ON THERE.

THIS WAS NOT A SITE BY SITE ANALYSIS.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DETAIL AT THIS POINT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING RIGHT AT EACH INDIVIDUAL SITE.

BUT IT WAS TAKING ALL OF IT TOGETHER AND LOOKING AT THE COMP, COMPREHENSIVE NUMBER OF UNITS AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT CONGESTION.

SO WE DO HAVE, NATHAN, IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ANALYSIS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HEAR ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.

BUT I ALSO WONDERED, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT INGRESS EGRESS ON A COUPLE OF THE SITES, THE ONE AT CHESTNUT AND THE ONE THE COTTAGE ROW.

ONCE I ATE. MAYBE YOU COULD TALK ABOUT INGRESS EGRESS AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE ON CORNERS.

SURE, SURE. SO JUST TO ADD WHAT STAFF ALREADY DESCRIBED, SORRY.

NATHAN SCHMIDT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING MOBILITY MANAGER.

SO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WAS CONDUCTED.

YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DID WAS WE CONDUCTED CITYWIDE TRAFFIC COUNTS.

SO THE PROCESS WAS CONDUCTED ALMOST SIMILARLY TO HOW WE DO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN ANALYSIS.

SO WE CONDUCTED COUNTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE DETERMINED THE CUMULATIVE TOTAL TRIPS THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE ENTIRE CITY.

SO ADDED THAT TO THE EXISTING TRAFFIC COUNTS.

AND THEN THAT LED US TO DETERMINE WHAT THE ADDITIONAL PROJECT TRAFFIC WOULD, WOULD, WOULD CREATE.

AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL IMPACTS BEYOND THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED FROM THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT CITYWIDE.

SO ANOTHER NOTE IS THAT ONCE THESE PROJECT COMES IN FOR APPLICATIONS, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD BE CONDUCTING THAT MORE DETAILED TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

SO THAT WOULD LOOK THAT WOULD GET INTO THESE QUESTIONS REGARDING INGRESS AND EGRESS.

WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT SAFETY ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED AT THESE PROJECT SITES.

THE MORE SPECIFIC IMPACTS THAT ARE AROUND THESE PROJECT SITES ARE WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WITH THOSE MORE DETAILED TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

OKAY. SO IT HAD TO BE MORE GENERALIZED BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL PROJECTS WOULD BE.

AND WE WE ACCOUNTED FOR A MATHEMATICAL MODEL OF HOW MANY CARS WE THOUGHT MIGHT BE ON OUR EXISTING ROADWAYS.

ANYTHING MORE DETAILED WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PROJECT APPLICATION IS IS SUBMITTED.

THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HEARD THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP, IT'S NOT TRAFFIC RELATED, BUT IT WAS MORE ABOUT, LARGE PROJECTS NOT FITTING IN CHARACTER WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND I, A LOT OF THOSE WERE RELATED TO KIND OF THE VILLAGE.

AND I KNOW THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THIS YEAR, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND I WONDERED IF SOMEBODY COULD TALK ABOUT HOW THOSE THINGS FIT TOGETHER.

SURE. SO BECAUSE WE HAVE NO PROJECTS AND PROCESS PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTING NOW OUTSIDE OF THE COASTAL ZONE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

THAT INCLUDES TWO DIFFERENT TYPES.

THERE'S THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE MORE DETAILED IN THE VILLAGE, BECAUSE THEY INCLUDE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THAT A PROJECT WOULD NEED TO COMPLY WITH.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT STILL INCLUDE THINGS LIKE SETTING BACK FROM THE STREET HOW TALL A BUILDING CAN BE, HOW MUCH OF

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A BLOCK WALL CAN THERE BE THINGS THAT WOULD HELP, REDUCE THE IMPACTS TO COMMUNITY CHARACTER FOR PROJECTS? THE REASON THEY ARE OBJECTIVE IS BECAUSE THEY ARE SOMETHING THAT WE CREATED SPECIFICALLY TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW THAT ONLY REQUIRES OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.

SO THOSE WERE DONE REALLY TO PUT IN PLACE BEFORE THIS SO THAT WHAT PROJECTS COMING IN WOULD NEED TO DO THAT.

AND THEN THE SITES SUCH AS SITE 14 AND 15 IN THE VILLAGE, IF THEY'RE COME IN, WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT VILLAGE AND THEY WOULD NEED TO PICK AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND COMPLY WITH THAT. OKAY.

SO A COUPLE TINY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC.

THE COMPLAINTS AND COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD, ESPECIALLY IN THE VILLAGE AREA, RELATING TO VERY LARGE PROJECTS THAT DON'T SEEM TO FIT INTO CHARACTER, INTO THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY OR BEFORE THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

BUT THESE ANY, ANY OF THESE SITES WOULD BE AFTER THE COUNCIL PASSED OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THAT THEY PICK AN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN THAT THE THE CITY HAS ALREADY REVIEWED, THE PUBLIC HAS REVIEWED, COUNCIL HAS PASSED, VOTED ON, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO PICK ONE OF THOSE SO THAT IT FITS RIGHT.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL STANDARDS THAT WOULD REQUIRE, CERTAIN BLOCKING.

SO YOU COULDN'T HAVE 100FT OF JUST A WALL.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO BREAK THAT UP IN THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

BUT YES, ALL THE PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION ARE EXISTING IN THE VILLAGE WERE PREDATE THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

OKAY. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND AND THEN.

I'M LOOKING AT THE TWO.

TWO DIFFERENT MAPS, AND I AM GRATEFUL TO THE THE QUESTION THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM ASKED ABOUT, REMOVING ADDING SITES AND KNOWING THAT WE'RE VERY LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO TONIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN, THAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT MAP ONE OR MAP TWO.

PICKING AND CHOOSING SITES OUTSIDE OF MAP ONE AND MAP TWO WOULD NOT BE A GOOD IDEA.

AND MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHY.

SURE. SO PICKING OR REMOVING SITES THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS WOULD GIVE US A PROBLEM WITH OUR TIME FRAME.

WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO THIS BY APRIL OF THIS YEAR, AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OUT AND STUDY ADDITIONAL ALTERNATIVES OR ADDITIONAL RUN ADDITIONAL MODELS THAT SHOW DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS.

WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED MAPS ONE AND TWO BE STUDIED, IT WAS TO PROVIDE US FLEXIBILITY BETWEEN THOSE MAP ALTERNATIVES FOR US RETURNING TONIGHT.

BOTH MAP ALTERNATIVES, THOUGH, WOULD MEET OUR PROJECT OBJECTIVES AND KEEP US IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR HOUSING ELEMENT.

OKAY, GREAT. AND THIS HAS BEEN THREE FOUR YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? WITH THE THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS AND THE HOUSING ELEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS OUR GENERAL PUBLIC INPUT.

OKAY. GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

MR. COLTER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR. YES, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I HAD SEVERAL, BUT I LOVE GOING LIKE NEXT TO LAST, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ASKED SO MANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COLLEAGUES, THE, SLIDE NUMBER 15.

IF YOU COULD JUST PULL THAT UP FOR ME, PLEASE.

IN. AND WHILE THAT GETS PULLED UP, MY QUESTION IS ACTUALLY ABOUT TRAFFIC.

LET'S SAY WE HAD A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SHOWED A NEGATIVE IMPACT OR WHATEVER QUALIFIES TO TRIGGER SOMETHING. DOES THE STATE EVEN CARE ABOUT THAT, OR ARE THEY GOING TO SAY, FIGURE IT OUT AND BUILD? COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER.

SO AS IT RELATES TO SEQUA, IF WE IDENTIFY SOMETHING THAT CLASSIFIES AS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, THEN WE DO NEED TO DO EVERYTHING FEASIBLE TO ADDRESS THAT IMPACT.

AND SO THERE ARE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE REQUIRED.

AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S REALLY TWO LEVELS OF ANALYSIS THAT ARE GOING TO OCCUR.

THERE WERE THOSE IMPACTS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ESTABLISH LOOKING AT ALL OF THE SITES TOGETHER.

THAT'S THE PROGRAM LEVEL.

AND THEN ANY SUBSEQUENT PROJECTS THAT COME IN WOULD ALSO HAVE TO DO A PROJECT LEVEL ANALYSIS.

AND SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY AT THAT TIME, LIKE A LOCAL MOBILITY ANALYSIS, WHICH LOOKS AT SOME OF THE TURNING MOVEMENTS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, AS WELL AS JUST VERIFYING THAT THE VMT LOOKED AT IN THE BIG PICTURE ALSO HOLDS TRUE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL SITE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CITY HAS ITS OWN STANDARDS ABOUT JUST OPERATION, SITE DESIGN, SAFETY, SITE DISTANCES, ETC.

THAT WOULD BE APPLIED AS THERE'S A PROJECT PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF STAFF.

VMT BEING VEHICLES MILES TRAVEL VEHICLE.

MILES TRAVELED IN CASE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO WITH THIS SLIDE IT SAYS UP THERE MAP ONE BETTER DISPERSES HOUSING THROUGHOUT CARLSBAD.

I REPRESENT DISTRICT ONE.

AND ACCORDING TO THE OWN YOUR OWN ANALYSIS HERE, THAT'S 1871 UNITS OUT OF THE 3873.

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SO BASICALLY, THE LION'S SHARE OF ALL THE RENO REGIONAL HOUSING NUMBERS, ARE IN DISTRICT ONE.

SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS ROSEANNE, I BELIEVE, SAID EQUITABLE.

AND OF COURSE, I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS BECAUSE THAT HAPPENED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

BUT, I JUST WONDERED IF EQUITY WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THESE UNITS WERE DISTRIBUTED.

THOUGH, THERE'S TWO THINGS WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE THE SITES.

FIRST WE HAD TO FIND VACANT SITES, AND THEN WE DID HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WERE THEY DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IT'S REALLY A BALANCE OF CERTAIN PLANNING PRIORITIES.

THERE WERE SOME SITES THAT ARE WITHIN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT THAT WERE EITHER LARGER AND VACANT OR DID MEET OTHER PLANNING OBJECTIVES, SUCH AS PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT, WHICH IS IN NOT ALL OF THE DISTRICTS.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WOULD ADD, IF YOU GO TO 88.

IS PART OF THE REASON WE SAY THAT IS MAP ONE DOES HAVE THE 1871 UNITS SHOWN IN QUADRANT IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT.

MAP TWO DOES REMOVE ONE OF THE SMALLER SITES, BUT IT ALSO INCREASES OUR ASSUMPTION AT SITE 14, WHICH IS THE COASTER STATION.

SO IT ACTUALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT.

AND THEN IT REMOVES ONE OF THE LARGER SITES, SITE EIGHT, WHICH IS IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IF IF SITE EIGHT IS REMOVED, DISTRICT ONE HAS TO ABSORB SOME OF THOSE AS WELL.

IT'S NOT EXACTLY A ADD ONE AND TAKE FROM ANOTHER, BUT THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE UNITS IN THE MAP WOULD REMOVE FROM SOUTHWEST, AND IT DID INCLUDE FROM NORTHWEST. SO CAN YOU GO TO THE THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE DISTRIBUTION PER DISTRICT? NOT QUADRANT, BUT PER DISTRICT.

SO, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHY I'M.

I'M KIND OF LAUGHING AT THIS BECAUSE DISTRICT ONE AND TWO ARE ABSORBING MOST OF ALL OF THIS.

AND SO WHY THEN WOULD WE MOVE EIGHT INTO DISTRICT ONE, AT LEAST A PORTION OF IT, INSTEAD OF GIVING SOME LOVE TO DISTRICT THREE AND FOUR? COUNCIL MEMBER A GOOD QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING ANOTHER RESPONSE TO THAT WHEN THE CONSIDERATION WAS GIVING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TO SITES BESIDES SITE EIGHT AND THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN UNITS, VOTED ON BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT BOTH THE SITE 14, THE VILLAGE COASTER STATION AS WELL AS SITE 17, WHICH IS OF COURSE THE POINSETTIA COASTER STATION IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT.

SO THERE WAS SOME ATTEMPT AT LEAST TO DISTRIBUTE DISTRIBUTING UNITS, OTHER THAN IN JUST THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT.

OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND IT DOESN'T GEL WITH, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT I'M HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS IN THE VILLAGE, IN THE BARRIO WHERE WE LIVE, WORK AND PLAY AND REALLY LOVE THE QUAINT COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN.

I ONLY HAVE ONE FINAL COMMENT, AND I'LL WAIT UNTIL MY COLLEAGUE FINISHES HER QUESTIONS.

MISS LUNA. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

NEXT IS COMMENTS.

AND OH, YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

GO AHEAD, MISS BHAT-PATEL.

JUST ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION.

FOLLOWING UP ON THE QUESTION THAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST ASKED.

SO WHEN WHEN WE REMOVED FROM ONE PARTICULAR AREA, I WOULD ASSUME WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY STICKING IT IN A DIFFERENT AREA.

WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO TRY TO MAINTAIN IT IN THAT SAME QUADRANT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

IS THAT ACCURATE? CERTAINLY.

I THINK THAT WAS A DECISION OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST OF 2021 TO FIND ALTERNATIVE SITES IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT INCLUDED THE POINSETTIA COASTER STATION. OKAY.

GREAT. THANKS. YEAH.

I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYBODY CALL ME OR CONTACT ME TO SAY WE WANT MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE FORCED INTO AND AS A COUNCIL, WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN AND WE CAN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

EVERYBODY SAYS THE EXACT SAME THING.

PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

JUST DON'T PUT IT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME REASONS WHY IT SHOULDN'T BE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE'RE MANDATED AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

AND I THINK STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF DOING THE BEST THEY CAN WITH A ESSENTIALLY A SITUATION THAT THEY CAN'T WIN.

SO I'LL JUST KEEP IT KIND OF BRIEF.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE DONE IS I'LL DISCLOSE.

I'VE BEEN OUT TO PEOPLE'S HOUSES, I'VE WALKED THE PROPERTIES, I'VE TAKEN TONS OF PHONE CALLS.

AND OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, EVERYBODY'S ARGUMENT IS THE SAME.

NOT IN MY BACKYARD.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOKED AT WAS THE TOTALITY OF THIS AND THE FAIRNESS.

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AND I LOOKED AT MAP NUMBER ONE WITH ONE EXCEPTION, AND THAT'S ZONE EIGHT.

THE REASON THAT I'D LIKE TO TAKE ZONE EIGHT OUT OF MAP ONE IS BECAUSE THERE'S TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW, AND I WANT TO SAY 350 ISH APARTMENTS THAT AREN'T EVEN FINISHED BEING BUILT YET.

RIGHT ON THAT. SAME WITHIN.

GOSH, PROBABLY 1 OR 2 PROPERTIES AWAY PLUS THE ISSUE WITH THE INGRESS EGRESS.

I THINK THAT SETS THEM APART FROM SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHO'VE SAID, NOT IN MY BACKYARD.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL AGREE TO IS MAP NUMBER ONE WITH THE REMOVAL OF SITE NUMBER EIGHT.

MRS BHAT-PATEL.

YES. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TO THE COMMUNITY FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR LEADING MAYOR.

AND I DO AGREE.

MAP ONE, WITH THE REMOVAL OF SITE EIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, I'D LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I LIVE IN AND AROUND THAT AREA I'VE.

AND AS WE KNOW, WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN AVIARA APARTMENTS, LAUREL TREE QUITE A BIT GO UP OVER THAT WAY.

AND I THINK IN GENERAL, IF YOU'VE WALKED IT, IF YOU'VE KNOCKED IT, IF YOU'VE WALKED AROUND, YOU KNOW THAT THAT PARTICULAR AREA CANNOT HANDLE, THIS UPZONE. AND SO FROM THE GET GO, I KNOW I'VE BEEN HOPING THAT WE COULD HAVE FIGURED OUT A DIFFERENT SOLUTION AND WE COULDN'T.

AND SO FOR ME, AT THIS TIME, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN SUPPORT.

AND THEN OTHERWISE, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW, THIS IS SUCH A LENGTHY PROCESS AND A CHALLENGING PROCESS TO NAVIGATE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE TAKING THEIR TIME TO BE HERE.

THE THE THING WITH REGARDS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOUSING IN GENERAL, WE'RE SEEING ACROSS THE STATE.

AND LIKE THE MAYOR MENTIONED, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE MANDATED TO DO.

AT THE SAME TIME, WITH REGARDS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO THINK OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THE FOLKS THAT ARE SERVING OUR COMMUNITIES CAN ALSO LIVE HERE. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE OFFICERS, TEACHERS THAT ACTUALLY COMMUTE 2 TO 3 HOURS IF YOU TALK TO THEM TO COME AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.

I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO OUR ASSOCIATIONS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATIONS, POLICE OFFICER ASSOCIATIONS, I'VE TALKED TO OUR TEACHERS AND MANY OF THEM DON'T LIVE WITHIN OUR OWN COMMUNITY. SO I HOPE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE THINK OF IT FROM A BROADER BRUSHSTROKE THAN JUST THINKING OF IT AS, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEBODY THAT'S JUST COMING IN TO CHANGE OUR COMMUNITY.

YES, IN A POSITIVE WAY.

RIGHT. AND I THINK ALSO SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S FOLKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF FOLKS, KIDS, GRANDKIDS THAT ARE COMING BACK TO WANT TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AGAIN AND DO WHAT THEY CAN TO GIVE BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, THE MEDIAN HOUSE PRICE FOR CARLSBAD IS $1.4 MILLION.

YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A YOUNG COUPLE THAT MIGHT BE COMING IN THAT'S THEY'RE BOTH ON TWO, SIX FIGURE SALARIES.

THEY STILL CAN'T PUT THAT DOWN PAYMENT DOWN.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD AT THE DOOR WHEN I'VE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR FOR FOR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND CONVERSATIONS WHEN I'VE HAD PEOPLE CALL.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY LIKE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH REGARDS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE BROAD BRUSH STROKE OF WHAT IT MEANS, IT'S A WHOLE VARIATION OF PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THAT WE CALL HOME.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DID SAY ON THE RECORD, MANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE SERVING OUR COMMUNITIES, KEEPING THEM SAFE, EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE HERE, TOO, MISS ACOSTA.

THANK YOU.

ACTUALLY, HEARING THIS CONVERSATION, CAN I SEE THE MAP AGAIN WITH ALL THE SITES? AND I'M WONDERING IF WE DID GO WITH MAP ONE AND REMOVE, SITE EIGHT, COTTAGE ROW? WOULD WE NOT HAVE TO MAKE THE OTHER CHANGE, OF ASSUMING HIGHER DENSITY AT THE COASTER STATIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA YOU WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO MAKE THE CHANGE ASSUMING THE HIGHER DENSITY.

YOU COULD ADOPT MAP ONE, REMOVING ANY COMBINATION OF THE THREE SITES THAT WERE STUDIED AS REMOVED ON MAP TWO, WHICH WAS EIGHT, THREE, AND 15.

OKAY. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW THAT I SIT ON THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER, AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY FIGHTING LEGISLATION FROM THE STATE THAT TAKES AWAY OUR LAND USE AUTHORITY.

AND WE KNOW WE ARE IN A HOUSING CRUNCH IN OUR STATE.

WE KNOW THAT HOUSING PRICES ARE GOING UP AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING SUPPLY, BUT WE REALLY HAVE BEEN FIGHTING ON BEHALF OF CARLSBAD AND CITIES ALL OVER THE STATE OF

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CALIFORNIA TO SAY, HEY, STATE, STOP TELLING US HOW TO RUN OUR CITIES BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING TO HAVE THE STATE IMPOSE SO MANY MANDATES.

AND THERE ARE MANY THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, THAT HAVE BEEN REALLY FRUSTRATING AND REALLY JUST BAD IDEAS.

SO WE ARE ON MULTIPLE FRONTS TRYING TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING ISSUE.

WE ARE COMPLYING WHILE STILL ADVOCATING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO INCREASE HOUSING SUPPLY.

WITH THE HIGH MEDIAN PRICE OF HOUSING IN CARLSBAD, WE ARE UNAFFORDABLE FOR STARTER FAMILIES.

I HAVE A 24 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.

I KNOW LOTS OF YOUNG ADULTS WHO HAVE COLLEGE DEGREES, WHO HAVE FULL TIME GOOD JOBS, AND THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA OR IN CALIFORNIA.

SO IT IS REALLY A CRISIS THAT IS HERE, BUT I SEE IT GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

SO WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

AND. YET AT THE SAME TIME IT IS HARD.

THIS IS A VERY HARD BALANCE OF FINDING HOW TO BEST ACCOMMODATE THESE ADDITIONAL UNITS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO WE HEAR YOU.

WE HEAR YOUR COMMENTS. I'M SO GRATEFUL TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO'VE COME OUT TODAY TO EXPRESS THEIR FIRST HAND POINTS OF VIEW, AND WE ARE LISTENING AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ACCOMMODATING YOUR PERSPECTIVES AS WELL.

SO OUR OUR REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT GOAL IS 3873.

IT'S A VERY HIGH NUMBER.

AND WITH THE INABILITY TO HAVE HOUSING CAPS IN OUR CITY, AS WE ORIGINALLY DID IN THAT ORIGINAL GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN FROM 1986, WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.

IT'S JUST SO HARD TO FIND THE PLACES.

THIS HAS BEEN A FOUR YEAR PROCESS.

WE HAVE ALL WALKED AND TALKED WITH PEOPLE IN EVERY SINGLE SITE AREA, AND WE KNOW THIS IS NOT JUST GOOGLE MAPS LIKE WE KNOW YOUR COMMUNITIES TOO.

AND IT IS. IT'S REALLY HARD.

I AM I CAME INTO THIS MEETING THINKING THAT I WOULD GO WITH MAP TWO BECAUSE I HAD SO MANY CONCERNS ABOUT SITE EIGHT.

I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SITE THREE, BUT I AM WILLING TO HEAR THE REST OF THE COMMENTS AND MAY GO WITH MAP ONE WITH THE REMOVAL OF SITE EIGHT.

THANKS. MISS BURKHOLDER.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD EXCEPT THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO HAS DIFFERENT RULES TO FOLLOW.

AND I JUST ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID ABOUT HOW THERE ARE SO MANY NEW STATE LAWS THAT BIND US TO DEVELOPMENT AND ADDITIONAL UNITS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TRIED TO DO LAST FEBRUARY WAS ACTUALLY SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, WHY IS THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO DIFFERENT? THEY DON'T GO THROUGH PLANNING AND THEY COME STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR, PROJECTS BECAUSE TO ME, MORE PUBLIC INPUT, JUST LIKE ALL OF YOU THAT TOOK THE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO SHOW UP HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE US A PIECE OF YOUR MIND AND TELL US WHAT YOU THOUGHT.

THAT IS SO IMPORTANT IN THE PROCESS.

WELL, THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO, WE DON'T DO THAT.

IT WASN'T MY DOINGS. I TRIED TO UNDO IT, BUT DIDN'T HAVE AN APPETITE FOR IT HERE.

SO, WE ARE ALL FRUSTRATED WITH IT, AND WE HEAR THE FRUSTRATION IN THE TONE OF YOUR VOICES.

AND I WANT TO SAY AND HIGHLIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WERE KIND.

YOU DIDN'T YELL AT US.

SOME OF YOU WERE PRETTY FUNNY ABOUT HOW YOU MADE YOUR PRESENTATION.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

WITH REGARD TO THE MAP.

SITE 15.

IS THE OAK YARD.

IT'S BASICALLY TUCKED IN TYLER.

IT'S RIGHT ON THE THE TRAIN TRACKS.

I DON'T LIKE THAT SITE FOR HOUSING.

I HEAR EVERY DAY FROM THE VILLAGE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED MORE PARKING.

IT WAS SAID TONIGHT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT INTO TURN INTO PARKING.

IT'S A GREAT SITE. IT'S TUCKED AWAY.

IT'S ON THE TRACKS AND IT, YOU KNOW, MORE DESIRABLE FOR FOR ALLEVIATING SOME OF THE PARKING IN THE VILLAGE.

SO I WOULD THROW IN SITE 15 AND GUESS WHAT? SITE THREE. BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER, THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER, CAN STILL COME BACK AND WORK THAT PROJECT, OR AT LEAST MAKE APPLICATION. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE WITH THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN MANY EMAILS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND PHONE CALLS AND TEXTS AND ALL THAT, THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT IS, APPROPRIATE.

AND THAT MEANS THAT MAP TWO IS WHAT I WOULD BE SUPPORTING.

SO, I JUST THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE EXTREME NUMBER OF UNITS WE'RE REQUIRED IN DISTRICT ONE.

I BELIEVE THIS IS A MAYBE A MORE EQUITABLE APPROACH TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

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AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HOUSING, I WOULD RATHER PUT IT AT THE MALL THAN RIGHT IN THE VILLAGE.

SO, THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S MY $0.02. AND I WILL SAY THANK YOU, MISS LUNA.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE HIAC MEMBERS BECAUSE IT WAS DURING COVID.

AND NORMALLY WHEN WE DO CREATE A COMMITTEE, BY COUNCIL, THEY USUALLY WILL COME HERE AND WE'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THEM.

AND WE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE TWO YEARS OF COVID.

SO, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND MR. MURPHY AND FORMER PLANNING DIRECTOR, MR. NJOO, AS WELL AS MR. LARDY AND OUR LION, WHO CARRIED THIS THROUGH.

MR. DONNELL, THE BEAUTY OF THIS PLAN AND OF THE HIAC IS EXACTLY THIS.

YOU HAD NO IDEA UNLESS YOU ATTENDED THE MEETINGS, THE SAUSAGE BEING MADE.

SORT OF LIKE DOING SURGERY.

YOU HAD TO MAKE SURE THE HEART WAS GOING.

YOU HAD TO MAKE SURE THE STOMACH WAS WORKING.

YOU HAD TO MAKE SURE THE LEGS WERE WERE WORKING.

ALL OF THE VARIABLES THAT EVERYBODY HAD TO CONSIDER ON THIS HIAC AND DEVELOP THIS PLAN, AND ALL THE CONSIDERATION THAT THEY HAD TO DO GIVES US THE ABILITY TODAY, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T SEE THE SAUSAGE BEING MADE TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER EXCLUDING SOME SITES WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE STATE FROM WALKING IN HERE AND TAKING OVER OUR PLAN.

THIS WORKED.

SO FOR YOU FOLKS TO COME IN HERE AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE THIS OUT IN THIS OUT, IN THIS OUT.

IF THIS WAS NOT A WELL THOUGHT PLAN, WE WOULD HAVE NO OPTION TO HONOR YOUR REQUEST.

WE DO HAVE THAT OPTION BECAUSE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THIS STAFF AND THESE PEOPLE PUT IN, SO IT WORKED.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

I WOULD SUPPORT, BASED ON WHAT THE MAYOR SAID WITH RESPECT TO MAP ONE, I WOULD RECOMMEND EXCLUDING SITE EIGHT.

THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF THIS PLAN IS THAT THINGS EVOLVED.

WE HAD A VERY SMALL WINDOW PERIOD, ALL THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE MAYOR AND I WERE AT A COUPLE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONIES FOR ALL THOSE APARTMENTS.

WE HEAR YOU THE WORK THAT THIS STAFF DID AND THAT THE ACT DID, ALLOWS THIS COUNCIL TO HONOR YOUR REQUEST.

WITH RESPECT TO SITE THREE, I HAVE HERE OVER 50 PEOPLE.

THAT SUPPORT SITE THREE DID NOT COME IN HERE.

AT MY REQUEST TO INUNDATE PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE WILLING TO GIVE US A LIST OF FOLKS WHO SUPPORTED SITE THREE.

WHAT? YOU HAVE OVERSIGHT THREE THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE OVER THE MAJORITY OF THE SITES IS THAT YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU.

MOST OF THESE OTHER SITES, YOU DO NOT HAVE A PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU.

YOU HAVE A PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU ON SITE THREE, THAT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE COMING WANT TO DEVELOP THAT THIS AND ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN.

MOST OF THE OTHER SITES THERE IS NOT A PLAN.

COUNCIL MEMBER I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT THE THIS PROJECT'S NOT IN FRONT OF US.

IT'S JUST THE SITE. SO SITE THREE YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY VERSUS OTHER SITES.

SO, I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND, MR. MAYOR, THAT WE GO WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO, SUPPORT MAP ONE, EXCLUDE SITE EIGHT AND MOVE ON.

WELL, I OPEN TO NEGOTIATION.

SO AFTER LISTENING TO COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER, MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE THE ELIMINATION.

IT'LL BE MAP ONE, THE ELIMINATION OF SITE EIGHT AND SITE 15, BUT SITE THREE REMAIN IN THEIR SO ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO ADD? OKAY. WAS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND. WELL, IN THIS THIS WOULD ENCOMPASS.

OKAY. MR. ACOSTA, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED STAFF BEFORE.

IF WE REMOVE THESE SITES, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE UP ZONING OF THE COASTER STATIONS? WOULD WE HAVE TO UP ZONE 14 AND 17? IF WE REMOVE THESE TWO SITES, YOU WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO UP ZONE 14 AND 17 IF YOU REMOVE THOSE SITES.

IF YOU USE MAP ONE AS THE BASE FROM YOUR REMOVAL.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. ONE MORE THING.

SINCE WE'VE NOW GOT THIS NEW MOTION.

YES. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT REMOVING SITE THREE FROM MAP FROM THE MAP DOES NOT PRECLUDE THEM FROM COMING BACK TO THE CITY WITH A PROJECT.

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SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OPPOSITION IS TO REMOVING IT AT THIS POINT.

SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

OKAY. SO THIS THIS, AGENDA ITEM HAS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.

SO I'M GOING TO LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.

CAN WE JUST APPROVE IT? AS ITEM TWO WITH THE WITH MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE EIGHT AND 15 FROM SUBSECTION FIVE, IS THAT SATISFACTORY? I BELIEVE STAFF HAS PREPARED SOME MODEL MOTIONS TO COVER ALL THE DIFFERENT ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN, BUT NOT THIS SCENARIO.

YES. IF THAT WAS THE SPECIFIC SCENARIO, WE'D REQUEST A FIVE MINUTE RECESS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MOTION.

GOT IT. WE'RE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

WE'LL RESUME IN FIVE MINUTES.

SO MY MOTION AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR HELPING ME WITH THIS IS GOING TO BE, SUBSECTION ONE, CERTIFY THE FINAL ESSER AND ADOPT RELATED DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THE ADDITIONAL MATERIALS MEMO STATED OR DATED JANUARY 30TH, 2024.

AND EXHIBIT ONE, SUBSECTION TWO ADOPT AMENDMENTS TO THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, EXCEPT FOR GENERAL PLAN AND LAND USE MAP CHANGES FOR SITE EIGHT.

EXHIBIT TWO ATTACHMENT B EXHIBIT GPA 2020 2-0001/ LCP 2020 2-0015 SITE EIGHT COTTAGE ROW APARTMENTS ON STAFF REPORT, PAGE 34 OF 159.

EXHIBIT TWO, SUBSECTION THREE ADOPT A GREATER AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY LEVEL FOR IDENTIFIED PROPERTIES.

EXHIBIT THREE, SUBSECTION FOUR AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP EXCEPT FOR ZONING MAP CHANGES FOR SITE EIGHT.

EXHIBIT FOUR ATTACHMENT A EXHIBIT ZC 2022-0001/ LCP 2022 DASH 15 SITE EIGHT COTTAGE ROW APARTMENTS ON STAFF REPORT, PAGE 68 OF 159.

EXHIBIT FOUR AMEND THE MASTER PLAN AND SPECIFIC PLAN.

EXHIBIT FIVE DO NOT INCLUDE SITE 15 CITIES OAK YARD AS A HOUSING SITE.

AND NOW YOU CAN SEE WHY I HAD TO TAKE A BREAK AND ASK STAFF TO PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR ME.

AND THAT'S MY MOTION.

AND I WOULD JUST ADD TWO THINGS FOR NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE ON THAT LIST.

IF COUNCIL WERE TO, APPROVE THIS MOTION, IT WOULD BE INTRODUCING AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THOSE WILL BE BROUGHT BACK FOR ADOPTION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

SO THAT'S THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

EXCUSE ME. BEFORE YOU DO VOTE, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL STATEMENT WE NEED TO READ INTO THE RECORD.

OKAY, BUT WE WILL READ THIS ONE.

AMENDING THE PROPOSED PROJECT TO REMOVE SITES EIGHT AND 15 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS.

THE DRAFT EIR CONSIDERED THE IMPACTS OF REMOVING SITE EIGHT AND 15, AND CONCLUDED THAT REDUCING THE SITES WOULD REDUCE THE SEVERITY OF IMPACTS RELATED TO BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, SOILS, GEOLOGY AND SOILS, HAZARDS AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, AND HYDROLOGY AND WATER QUALITY COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

AS NOTED IN THE DRAFT EIR, THE SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS RELATED TO AIR QUALITY, HISTORICAL RESOURCES, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, CONSTRUCTION, NOISE AND TRANSPORTATION ARE ALREADY ANALYZED UNDER THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD REMAIN IF SITE EIGHT AND 15 WERE REMOVED.

REMOVING SITES EIGHT AND 15 WOULD NOT CREATE ANY SUBSTANTIAL OR NEW NET IMPACTS AND WOULD NOT INCREASE THE SEVERITY OF ANY IMPACTS WHICH HAVE BEEN EVALUATED IN THE EIR.

WE'VE WORKED ON THIS STATEMENT WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT AND WANTED TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. THAT ADDITION DOES NOT CHANGE MY MOTION.

DOES IT CHANGE YOUR SECOND? PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE SAY WHAT AGAIN? WHAT? YOU SAID THAT WE HAVE TO ADD AT THE END.

WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE YOU NEEDED ON THIS, OR IS THAT THAT? TAKE CARE OF IT. WHAT THEY ADDED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[3. AURA CIRCLE OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION (GPA 2021-0001, ZC 2021-0001, LCPA 2021-0011 (PUB 2021- 0002)) AND BUENA VISTA PARK OPEN SPACE (GPA 2021-0002, ZC 2021-0002 (PUB 2021-0003))]

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER THREE.

CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

NUMBER THREE IS THE AURORA CIRCLE OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION AND BUENA VISTA PARK OPEN SPACE.

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR CITY PLANNER, ERIC LARDY, ALONG WITH THE PRINCIPAL PRINCIPAL PLANNER, ROBERT EFIRD AND OUR SENIOR PLANNER, SCOTT O'DONNELL. GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU, MR. CHADWICK.

AND GOOD EVENING AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MAYOR, THIS ITEM REGARDS A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND ZONING ON TWO PROPERTIES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO OPEN SPACE.

BOTH PROPERTIES ARE IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT AND IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO.

THE FIRST PROPERTY IS A CIRCLE.

IT'S ALMOST 15 ACRES IN SIZE AND IS CITY OWNED, HAVING BEEN ACQUIRED BY THE CITY IN 2020 FOR THE PURPOSES OF HABITAT PRESERVE.

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THE YELLOW PORTION THAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE CENTER OF THE EARTH CIRCLE SITE IS PRESENTLY DESIGNATED FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S THE PART OF THE PROPERTY UNDER THIS PROPOSAL THAT WOULD CHANGE TO OPEN SPACE.

THAT OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION WOULD MATCH THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ALREADY DESIGNATED FOR OPEN SPACE PURPOSES.

BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE COASTAL ZONE.

BEFORE THIS DESIGNATION CHANGE WOULD TAKE PLACE, IT DOES REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO DEVELOP RESIDENTIALLY, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT'S PROPOSED, IT WOULD HAVE AN UNBUILT CAPACITY OF APPROXIMATELY 13 HOMES.

THAT FACTORS IN INTO A LATER PRESENTATION AS PART OF THIS SLIDES REGARDING COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

THE SECOND PROPERTY THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THIS RESIDENTIAL TO OPEN SPACE CHANGE IS BUENA VISTA RESERVOIR PARK.

YOU MAY KNOW THIS AS A CITY PARK THAT DEVELOPED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO 2021.

IT'S THREE ACRES.

IT ALSO LIKE OR A CIRCLE IS DESIGNATED NOW FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND WOULD CHANGE TO OPEN SPACE TO MATCH THE EXISTING LAND USE THAT'S THERE TODAY.

IT HAS AN UNBUILT CAPACITY OF 15 HOMES.

PRIOR DECISIONS ON THIS PROJECT INCLUDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR BUENA VISTA RESERVOIR PARK IN 2019.

AS I MENTIONED, THE CITY ACQUIRED OR A CIRCLE FOR HABITAT PRESERVATION THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2020.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOOK UP THIS ITEM TO CONSIDER THE CHANGES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO OPEN SPACE IN 2021, AND RECOMMENDED THOSE CHANGES TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE OTHER PRIOR DECISION IS ACTUALLY THE ACTION THAT YOU JUST TOOK, WHICH IS THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION ON THE REZONE PROGRAM.

AND THE REASON THAT COMES INTO PLAY IS BECAUSE THAT REZONING PROVIDES THE UNITS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THERE IS NO LOSS IN HOUSING CAPACITY RESULTING FROM THE CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO OPEN SPACE.

AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED 15 UNITS ON THE BUENA VISTA PARK SITE, 13 UNITS ON THE CIRCLE, BECAUSE THAT COMBINED LOSS OF 28 UNITS NEEDS TO BE MADE UP PER STATE HOUSING LAW.

AND OF COURSE, THE REZONE PROGRAM THAT YOU JUST APPROVED.

DOES THAT SOME PROJECT BENEFITS.

REALLY THIS IS JUST A CLEANUP PROJECT.

IT DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY DEVELOPMENT, ANY IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS A TRAIL.

THE OR CIRCLE SITE IS FOR HABITAT PRESERVE.

BUENA VISTA PARK WILL REMAIN AS A CITY PARK.

THE PROJECT ALSO SIMPLY BRINGS LAND USE PLANS IN LINE WITH THE ACTUAL USES THAT ARE ON THE GROUND TODAY.

AND THEN FINALLY, IT DOES ADD ALMOST SIX ACRES TO THE CITY'S OFFICIAL OPEN SPACE INVENTORY.

AND WITH THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING MAP TO REFLECT THE CHANGES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO OPEN SPACE.

AND SIMILARLY, AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S LAND USE MAPS, THE GENERAL PLAN AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM TO ALSO CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO OPEN SPACE.

AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? SEAN MCGRADY, FOLLOWED BY ROSEANNE BENTLEY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'LL BE BRIEF.

MY, OPPOSITION IS TO ACTUALLY TO TO JUST A TRAIL SEGMENT.

I'M A RESIDENT OF, TELESCOPE POINT, CUL DE SAC OF HIGH RIDGE AVENUE.

AND, WE HAVE SMALL CHILDREN, A LOT OF SMALL CHILDREN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS A SAFE PLACE TO PLAY.

IT'S KIND OF AN INSULATED NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS, TRAILHEAD.

WE DON'T SEE IT SERVING ANY PURPOSE.

GOING FROM THE AURORA OPEN SPACE TO OUR CUL DE SAC.

AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, THE FACT THAT THIS CAN INVITE TRANSIENTS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A SAFE PLACE FOR KIDS AGAIN.

MANY, MANY.

I'M KIND OF AN UNOFFICIAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR, FOR FOR MY COMMUNITY AND MANY OTHERS HAVE HAVE, I KNOW, EMAILED AND CALLED IN THE PAST 24 HOURS TO VOICE SIMILAR OPPOSITION.

SO JUST, STRONGLY HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER REMOVING THAT TRAIL.

SEGMENT SEVEN FROM THE PLAN, WHATEVER THAT PLAN MAY BE.

AND, THAT'S ALL.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

HELLO AGAIN.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU, MISS BURKHOLDER, FOR SPEAKING UP AND CARING ABOUT US IN DISTRICT ONE.

I MIGHT HAVE TO REVISE MY OPINION OF YOU, SO THANK YOU.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN WITH.

OR A CIRCLE. I, AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, I LIVE MY BACKYARD ABUTS THE THAT OPEN SPACE.

AND ALL OF US THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA THAT I KNOW OF.

AND I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 40 YEARS.

LOVED THE IDEA OF OPEN SPACE.

AND WE ACTUALLY, TRIED TO CREATE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH YOU

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AS WE AGREE UPON THE RIGHT KINDS OF FLORA AND FAUNA THAT WILL GO INTO THAT PUBLIC SPACE.

AND MIGHT I SAY, WHEN IT'S REGARDING ANY TRANSIENTS OR HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE AREA.

I'VE BEEN WALKING THAT AREA FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS, AND I CAN SAY CATEGORICALLY, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT OR TRANSIENTS IN THAT AREA. WHAT I HAVE SEEN ARE SOME TEENAGERS WHO LIKE TO GO UP THERE AND GET DRUNK AND SMOKE POT, AND THAT'S IT.

SO I, I ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE ANY IDEA OF NOT HAVING A TRAIL OR A NICE PLACE FOR US TO GO BECAUSE OF SOME NEBULOUS, MAYBE TRANSIENTS, SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED.

TO, MARGE, A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

SO WHAT? BUT MY QUESTION IS, WHY HAS IT TAKEN SO LONG TO DO SOMETHING SINCE IT WAS, PURCHASED IN 2020? THAT. YOU DON'T NEED TO ANSWER THAT NOW, BUT SOMEONE PLEASE GET BACK TO ME AND LET'S WORK ON CREATING COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR FOR PURCHASING THE LAND FOR THAT PURPOSE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS? I THINK IT MIGHT BE BEST IF YOU HANG OUT AND TALK TO OUR STAFF.

AND RATHER THAN WAIT FOR A PHONE CALL.

OKAY, I WILL DO THAT. I'M ALSO SPEAKING AGAIN AT PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END, SO I WILL THANK YOU.

OKAY. IS THAT THE, THE SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.

OKAY. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS ALSO ASKS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE DISCLOSURES PERTAINING TO THIS ITEM.

SO WE'LL START WITH MISS LUNA.

DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES? MISS BURKHOLDER.

NO. MISS ACOSTA.

NO DISCLOSURES. MISS BHAT-PATEL.

NONE. I WILL MAKE DISCLOSURES THAT AS FAR AS THE, THE PARK, I WAS VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN THE PARK LONG BEFORE IT WAS EVEN A PARK.

AND I MET WITH QUITE A FEW NEIGHBORS ON THAT TOPIC.

SO CITY MANAGER.

NOTHING, SIR. NOTHING.

SO, ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL? ANY COMMENTS? HOW ABOUT A MOTION? YES, SURE.

I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF OUR COUNCIL MEETING.

FINAL COMMENTS, MISS LUNA.

MISS BURKHOLDER. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, THREE OF US DID THE POINT IN TIME COUNT LAST THURSDAY MORNING, AND A FEW STAFF MEMBERS WERE THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ENCOUNTERED IN MY COUNT, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY BETWEEN ARMY NAVY ACADEMY AND, CARLSBAD BY THE SEA, WAS PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT HOMELESS.

THEY ACTUALLY ARE FROM QUEBEC.

AND THEY WERE HERE OVERNIGHT HEADING OVER TO LAKE HAVASU THE NEXT DAY.

AND THEN ANOTHER COUPLE WERE SURFERS.

THEY WERE JUST SLEEPING IN THEIR VAN AND THEIR CAMPERS, AND THEY WERE GOING TO HIT THE BEACH EARLY IN THE MORNING.

WE HAVE TO COUNT THOSE PEOPLE.

BUT ON THE APP THERE IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN PUT NOTES.

SO I ENCOURAGE MY NOTE TAKER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN WHAT WE WERE SUBMITTING TO THE GOVERNMENT.

AND THE REASON IS OUR NUMBERS ARE SKEWED.

IF YOU'RE COUNTING PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ARE NOT HOMELESS, THEY'RE JUST PASSING THROUGH.

I DID SEE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WERE LIVING IN THEIR VEHICLES, LAST YEAR DURING THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.

HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE REMEDIED WHEN WE GET SOME SIGNAGE UP THAT SAYS NO OVERNIGHT PARKING IN THAT AREA.

AND THEN WE DID SEE ONE ACTUALLY HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL, WHO IS KNOWN TO CARLSBAD PD.

SHE WAS ACTUALLY OUR FIRST CARE COURT RECIPIENT, WENT DOWN TO SAN DIEGO.

AND BECAUSE IT IS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM, SHE LEFT AND CAME BACK AND SHE WAS JUST, HOLED UP AT MAGEE PARK THERE.

SO IT WAS INTERESTING AS ALWAYS.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO REPORT OUT ON IS WINDSOR POINT.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT IN THE MEETING, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, IT'S A COUNTY RUN FACILITY IN OUR CITY, ACROSS THE STREET FROM CHASE FIELD NEAR THE SENIOR CENTER, SEVERAL SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES AND, SURROUNDED BY MILLION, $2 MILLION HOMES.

AND THERE'S A FEW INDIVIDUALS IN THERE THAT ARE CAUSING CPD TO HAVE TO RESPOND ON THE DAILY, SOMETIMES MULTIPLE TIMES.

SO I'VE, I'VE HAD A MEETING WITH OUR SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE.

HER NAME IS TARA LAWSON RIEMER.

AND I ALSO, GAVE FEEDBACK OF WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE.

CHIEF OF POLICE WAS WITH ME.

OUR DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND HOMELESS DEPARTMENT WAS WITH ME.

AND WE GAVE VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE WHAT WE NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY TO MAKE THIS FACILITY WORK, BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE IT WORK BECAUSE IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM.

COUNTY WANTS TO SEE IT WORK BECAUSE IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM.

AND THEY WANT TO PUT MANY OF THESE AROUND.

SO AFTER THAT MEETING, NOTHING REALLY HAPPENED.

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I HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH COUNTY SUPERVISOR DESMOND, WHO USED TO BE OUR REPRESENTATIVE, AND WE ARE IN A PROCESS NOW OF FIGURING OUT IF IT'S THE SERVICES ON SITE THAT ARE FAILING OR IF IT'S THE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THE SERVICES AREN'T ACCESSING THEM, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S VOLUNTARY AND WE ONLY HAVE A SMALL PERCENTAGE.

I KNOW MISS ROBBINS SAID IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER.

I'M SORRY PEOPLE, BUT I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA IS IS LIMITED TO BRIEF REPORTS OF YOUR ACTIVITIES.

I UNDERSTAND, AND IF WINDSOR POINT HADN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

BUT I WANTED TO, SAY THAT THERE IS WORK BEING DONE ON THAT.

MAYBE THAT'S ALL I SHOULD HAVE SAID.

ANYWAY, THE LAST THING IS SANDAG, WE I WAS ABLE TO GET A MOTION PASSED AT SANDAG TO SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY RELATIVE TO THE I.

125 SO THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.

BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU LOOK AT TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND CONSIDER FISCAL CONSERVANCY, PEOPLE WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

THANKS, MISS ACOSTA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER BURKHOLDER FOR BRINGING UP THE HOMELESS POINT IN TIME COUNT THAT WE PARTICIPATED IN AND THE AREA THAT I WAS ASSIGNED, WHICH IS, CLOSER TO CITY HALL AND INCLUDED, HOLIDAY PARK, WE ENCOUNTERED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THEIR CARS THAT WERE THAT WERE SLEEPING IN THEIR CARS.

AND WE HAD GOOD CONVERSATIONS IN THE PROGRAM.

YOU HAVE AN APP THAT YOU DOWNLOAD AND THEN YOU ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, AND THIS IS A NATIONWIDE COUNT THAT HAPPENS EVERY OTHER YEAR.

BUT IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND IN SOME AREAS WE DO ANNUALLY.

SO I WAS HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE.

AND I KNOW MANY, MANY VOLUNTEERS CAME OUT FOR THAT.

SO IT WAS WONDERFUL.

AND I WANT TO THANK OUR, OUR STAFF FOR COORDINATING THE LOCATION HERE IN CARLSBAD FOR OUR CITY.

I DID WANT TO REPORT OUT ON THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY MEETING THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK.

WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING UP NEXT WEEK, BECAUSE WE ARE MEETING PRETTY MUCH TWICE A MONTH RIGHT NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, HOW TO KEEP RATES LOW AND MAINTAIN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT HAPPENING WITH WATER.

IT'S COSTLY AND IT'S VITAL, RIGHT? IT'S IT'S OUR LIFE ESSENCE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CLEAN, RELIABLE SOURCES OF WATER FOR ALL OF OUR, OUR RESIDENTS.

SO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE IN OUR AGENDAS RIGHT NOW.

IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE WONKY BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCIAL MODELS FOR THE FUTURE, BUT ANYONE IS WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO ME.

I KEEP OFFICE HOURS.

ANYONE COULD EMAIL ME OR.

OR CALL ME ON MY CELL PHONE, AND THOSE EMAIL AND CELL PHONE CONTACT INFORMATION ARE LISTED ON THE WEBSITE AS THEY ARE FOR ALL OF US.

BUT THURSDAY AFTERNOONS I REALLY SET ASIDE TIME JUST TO CHAT WITH PEOPLE.

SO I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND CALL ME DURING MY OFFICE HOURS OR EMAIL ME ANYTIME.

THANKS. MRS BHAT-PATEL.

YES. THANK YOU.

AND I TOO ATTENDED THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.

I WON'T REPEAT WHAT WAS SAID, BUT IT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE WITH REGARDS TO COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

I HAVE A NT-D PERFORMANCE ADMINISTRATION AND FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING THIS WEEK.

FOR I'LL CONTINUE WITH TRANSPORTATION.

I HAD A TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNICATION AND PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.

JUST A COUPLE.

I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK, LAST WEEK AS WELL.

AND THEN, SANDAG TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL.

I REPRESENT NT-D ON THAT PARTICULAR BOARD.

AND I WANTED TO ALSO REPORT OUT THAT THIS MONTH I FOUND OUT THAT I'LL, CONTINUE TO SERVE ON NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES COMMITTEE AS A MEMBER. AND THEN I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT IN NOVEMBER, I WAS ELECTED TO THE BOARD OF THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS. SO I WILL BE REPRESENTING US IN THAT CAPACITY AS WELL.

OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CITY MANAGER.

CITY ATTORNEY, NOTHING.

THANK YOU. CITY CLERK.

NOTHING. THANK YOU.

ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR OUR COUNCIL.

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 1ST, 2024 9:30 A.M.

TO 2:30 P.M.

CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING.

IT'LL BE HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 1200 CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE IN CARLSBAD.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

WE'RE ADJOURNED. MAYOR. OH, WE HAVE I MISSED.

OH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

SO SORRY.

PLEASE CALL THE THE TWO PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

MICHAEL CONWAY.

AND ROSEANNE BENTLEY.

ROSEANNE. THAT'S FUNNY.

THEY CALLED YOUR NAME AND YOU LOOKED BEHIND YOU.

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR HER? NO, I KNOW I WAS LOOKING FOR MICHAEL.

OKAY. YOU GO. IF HE COMES IN, SOON, THEN WE'LL TAKE HIM.

OKAY. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.

I'VE BEEN ABSENT FROM.

AND I AM ROSEANNE BENTLEY.

[02:40:02]

I'VE BEEN ABSENT FROM PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR A WHILE.

MAYBE YOU HAVE OR HAVE NOT NOTICED THAT, BUT I WAS GATHERED LAST THURSDAY, WITH A COMMUNITY OF CITIZENS WHO CARED DEEPLY ABOUT CARLSBAD. AND YOU GUYS WEREN'T THERE? THERE IS, AS IT HAS AS IT SEEMS, ALMOST A BLATANT DISREGARD FOR OUR OPINIONS AND INPUT.

MAYBE THINGS HAVE CHANGED, BUT THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

AND OBVIOUSLY, WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS THE MEETING THAT WAS HAD, AT STATE AND WHAT I CALL ELM STREET, WHERE, THE CHOICE PROPERTY IS TO BE DEVELOPED.

AND I JUST HOPE THAT THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RUIN THAT THAT BEAUTIFUL CORNER WITH ANOTHER HIDEOUS, BOXY DEVELOPMENT.

IT WOULD NOT BE ENTITLED TO BE CALLED THE GATEWAY TO OUR CITY.

AND AND ACTUALLY, IT'S REALLY FUNNY TO ME BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY I THINK YOU COULD REFER TO CARLSBAD AS A VILLAGE OR A CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE IS IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THOSE LITTLE MINECRAFT VILLAGES THAT MY GRANDSON PUTS TOGETHER WITH LEGOS.

THEY'RE ALL SQUARE, HIDEOUS LITTLE BOXES AND NOT ONE SINGLE ONE.

WELL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE, NONE OF THEM REFLECT COASTAL CULTURE.

I MEAN, WHERE DO WE LIVE? WE LIVE NEAR THE BEACH.

BUT THESE BOXES, ARE A DESECRATION, A TOTAL DESECRATION TO OUR COASTAL CULTURE.

AND I'M JUST IMPLORING YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE DESIGN.

YOU KNOW, IF I KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T FIT, Y'ALL MUST KNOW THAT, TOO.

IT'S IT.

THAT CORNER IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CARLSBAD.

AND MAYBE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED, HISTORICAL BLOCK.

I DON'T KNOW, NO ONE OBVIOUSLY HAS DONE THAT.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING THERE, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE INEVITABLE, THEN THEN DO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF AND NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR OR YELL AT YOU ABOUT.

I MEAN, THAT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

AND KEITH, I KNOW YOU TOTALLY UNDERSTAND ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THAT BUILDING IS.

THE THAT SITE IS TO CARLSBAD, AND IT COULD AND SHOULD BE A PROUD GATEWAY TO OUR CITY.

AND I'M THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I HAVE 32 SECONDS LEFT.

AND I WILL SAY THANK YOU.

AND THE OTHER SPEAKER DIDN'T COME BACK.

OKAY. THEN WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.