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[CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 21ST MEETING OF THE CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION.

I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:00 WITH THE MINUTES.

CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL.

COMMISSIONER HUBINGER IS ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER MERZ IS ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER MEENES.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER STINE.

HERE. VICE CHAIR SABELLICO.

PRESENT. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER. FOUR COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER. CHAIR KAMENJARIN IS ABSENT.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A QUORUM, FOUR COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT AND THREE, ARE ABSENCE.

COMMISSIONERS HUBINGER.

MERZ AND KAMENJARIN.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED THIS EVENING BY COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY? WOULD YOU DO IT?

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THE NEXT ITEM FOR APPROVAL IS THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17TH MEETING.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

OKAY. PLEASE VOTE.

WE'LL DO A VOICE VOTE.

OKAY. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 17TH MEETING.

THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER STINE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MEENES.

WOULD THE MINUTES CLERK PLEASE ASK FOR THE VOTE? COMMISSIONER STINE.

YES. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

YES. COMMISSIONER MEENES.

YES. VICE CHAIR SABELLICO.

YES. OKAY.

THE MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 0 WITH COMMISSIONERS HUBINGER, MERZ AND KAMENJARIN ABSENT.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

OKAY. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

MINUTES CLERK DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA? YES, WE HAVE ONE.

THANK YOU. TIM MORGAN.

HI THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TIM MORGAN.

I STAND HERE TODAY REPRESENTING ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS ON VALLEY STREET, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELD, WITH DEEP CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED FENCE NET PROJECT. THE CARLSBAD SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PROPOSING AND WILL SUBMIT THE PLANS TO THE CITY VERY SOON.

SO THIS PROJECT WILL EVENTUALLY COME ACROSS YOUR DESK JUST PREPPING FOR IT.

FIRST, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE LACK, THE COMPLETE LACK OF COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THE CARLSBAD SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE, THE RESIDENTS WEREN'T INFORMED, CONSULTED, OR GIVEN ANY OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR PERSPECTIVES ON THIS PROJECT.

EVEN THOUGH THE SCHOOL STAFF STATES THEY HUNG DOOR FLIERS IN 2021.

THIS IS FALSE.

YEAH, I KNOW ALL THE NEIGHBORS.

I GO DOOR BY DOOR AND NOT A SINGLE RESIDENCE RECEIVED A DOOR HANGER.

EVEN THE RESIDENT WHO WANTED SOMETHING TO HELP THE LACROSSE BALLS DIDN'T RECEIVE A DOOR HANGER OR ANY FORM OF COMMUNICATION OR NOTICE.

THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IS DEEPLY TROUBLESOME AND DISENFRANCHISES THE VERY PEOPLE THIS PROJECT WILL AFFECT MOST.

SECOND, THE PROJECT I WANT TO STATE THAT THERE WAS ZERO SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

THERE WAS ZERO SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

ONCE WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CURRENT PROPOSED PROJECT AGAIN, EVEN THE NEIGHBORS WHO WANTED THE CHANGE DOESN'T EVEN AGREE OR WANT THE 14 LARGE POLES WITH A NET BLOCKING VIEWS AND IS UNNECESSARY, UNSIGHTLY, AND DETRIMENTAL TO THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SEE, I GO AGAIN. I GO DOOR BY DOOR AND I RECEIVED A SIGNED PETITION OPPOSING THE FENCE NET PROJECT.

WE BELIEVE THIS FENCE SO LARGE CREATES A BARRIER NOT ONLY A PHYSICAL, BUT ALSO DIVIDING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HINDERING THE OPEN SPACE WE

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CHERISH. BEYOND THE FUNDAMENTAL CONCERNS.

WE ALSO I WANT TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT THE DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.

I WAS ABLE TO GO BACK INTO THE SCHOOL RECORDS FROM 2021 AND FIND ONE PAGE WITH THE DESIGN OF THE FENCE.

THE ORIGINAL FENCE DOES NOT GO THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE FIELD VERSUS WHEN ATTEMPTING TO CONSTRUCT THE FENCE IN DECEMBER, THE CONSTRUCTION CREW WENT THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE FIELD. THE PROJECT WAS STOPPED WITH THE HELP OF THE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT VIOLATED THE COASTAL COMMISSION PROCESS. THEREFORE, WE URGE THE COMMISSION TO REJECT THE FENCE PROPOSAL WHEN IN ITS ENTIRETY WE REQUEST A TRANSPARENT AND INCLUSIVE PROCESS WHICH RESIDENTS ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE SHAPING OF ANY FUTURE PLANS.

AS OUR CITY MANAGER SAYS, AS WE DID WITH THE TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ON TAMARACK, LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS WHILE RESPECTING THE CHARACTER INTEGRITY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

[1. CDP 2023-0016/V 2023-0002 BEGONIA COURT RETAINING WALL]

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE.

BEFORE I BEGIN, ITEM NUMBER ONE PLEASE DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN, AND I WILL REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE COMMISSION THAT WE WILL BE FOLLOWING FOR TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE OPENED.

STAFF WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANTS WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AND RESPOND TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.

THEY WILL HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL THEN BE OPENED.

A TIME LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES IS ALLOTTED TO EACH SPEAKER.

AFTER ALL, THOSE WANTING TO SPEAK HAVE DONE SO, THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL BE CLOSED.

THE APPLICANT AND THE STAFF HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO ISSUES OR QUESTIONS RAISED.

THE COMMISSIONERS WILL THEN DISCUSS THE ITEM AND THEN VOTE ON IT.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AT THAT POINT.

CERTAIN PLANNING COMMISSION DECISIONS ARE FINAL, BUT MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU CAN FIND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES ON THE BACK OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

FIRST, HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMISSION CONVERSATIONS ON THIS ITEM? ACTUALLY, WE WON'T NEED EX PARTE ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU VICE CHAIR SABELLICO.

AS WE INTRODUCED THIS ITEM, WE WOULD LIKE TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW OF THE CURRENT STATUS OF THIS ITEM.

THE COMMISSION HAS HISTORICALLY EXTENDED APPLICANTS THE COURTESY OF REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.

SO THEIR MATTER MIGHT BE HEARD BY A FULL COMMISSION.

TONIGHT, THREE MEMBERS ARE ABSENT.

THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE SO THAT THEY COULD BE HEARD BY A LARGER THAN FOUR PERSON COMMISSION.

HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION IS NOT OBLIGATED TO GRANT THIS REQUEST.

THE COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO TAKE ACTION TO CONTINUE.

IT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CONTINUANCE BE GRANTED AND THE ITEM BE CONTINUED TO A DATE UNCERTAIN.

THAT MEANS THAT WE WOULD REFILE ALL OF THE PUBLIC NOTICES AND RETURN ONCE WE'VE WORKED OUT ANY LOGISTICAL ISSUES AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE THAN FOUR COMMISSIONERS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE ON THIS ITEM.

THIS ITEM IS A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND VARIANCE WHERE THE COMMISSION IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.

ULTIMATELY, THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE FINAL DECISION MAKER.

WITH THAT, WE ARE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, PLANNER HARDY.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, WELL, I THINK BEFORE WE OPEN THE BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ACTUAL PROCEDURES OF ITEM NUMBER ONE, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY MINUTE MOTIONS MADE BY THE COMMISSION.

I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

I WAS GOING TO TAKE A MOTION.

NONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ONE QUESTION.

MR. HARDY, THERE'S NO TIME SENSITIVITY INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER.

NOTHING SPECIFIC.

WE WILL LOOK TO SCHEDULE THIS AS SOON AS PRACTICABLE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

OKAY. AND THERE IS KIND OF PRECEDENT FOR IT WHEN WE'VE HAD MATTERS COME BEFORE US WHEN THERE WAS ONLY FOUR, HAVEN'T WE CONTINUED OTHER MATTERS AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT? WE HAVE DONE THAT.

WE TYPICALLY GIVE THE APPLICANT A GOOD DEFERENCE TO ENSURE DUE PROCESS AS FOLLOWED.

IF AN APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH FOUR, WE'VE LET THEM DO IT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUED.

THE COMMISSION IS HISTORICALLY CONTINUE THE ITEM.

AND IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT ISN'T EVEN PRESENT IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TONIGHT.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MEANS, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM WITH AN UNDETERMINED DATE AT THIS MOMENT.

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I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

I DON'T KNOW. PERHAPS WE CAN TAKE ANOTHER VOICE VOTE.

YEAH, WE'LL DO A VOICE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER MEENES.

YES. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

YES. COMMISSIONER STINE.

YES. VICE CHAIR SABELLICO.

YES. OKAY.

THE MOTION CARRIES BY A VOTE OF FOUR ZERO WITH THREE ABSENT COMMISSIONERS KAMENJARIN, MERZ AND HUBINGER ABSENT.

OKAY I'M NOT SURE IF I NEED TO.

IF I HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR SINCE IT WAS NEVER OPENED.

BUT I WILL DO SO JUST IN CASE.

CLOSED. ALL RIGHT.

[PLANNER REPORT]

REPORTS NOW THE ONLY CITY PLANNER REPORT IS WE ARE LOOKING AT CANCELING THE MARCH 6TH MEETING.

IT CONFLICTS WITH A COUPLE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE ATTENDING THE LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE.

DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE A REPORT? NO, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION.

AND AT THIS PRESENT TIME, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO CANCEL THE APRIL 3RD MEETING.

IS THAT RIGHT, MR. HARDY? WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT ITEMS ON THAT DATE.

WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE ONE ITEM COME UP AFTER OUR BRIEFING THAT WAS TARGETING THAT DATE, BUT WE'LL HAVE CYNTHIA SEND OUT THE FULL TENTATIVE AGENDA CALENDAR BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PLAN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN THE SUMMER.

I REALIZE COMMISSIONERS ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL CONFLICTS WITH WORK AND OTHERWISE.

RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN YOU'LL KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING ON APRIL 3RD.

WE SHOULD KNOW WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, BECAUSE THE STAFF REPORT PROCESS WILL BE BEGINNING FOR THAT ITEM.

GOOD. THANK YOU.

ANY COMMISSION REPORTS.

ANY REPORTS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY? NONE FROM ME. THANK YOU.

OKAY. I WILL ADJOURN TONIGHT'S MEETING AT 5:12.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.