Apr 09, 2024 City Council Meeting

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I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA, PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER, PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA HERE.

MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL HERE.

MAYOR BLACKBURN PRESENT.

ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

NEXT IS THE PLEDGE.

I'M GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT ASSISTANT CHIEF CALDERWOOD'S NOT THE CHIEF YET, SO I CAN STILL BOSS HER AROUND.

SO I'M GOING TO HAVE HER DO THE PLEDGE.

ALLEGIANCE] NEXT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

SO MOVED.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT IS PRESENTATIONS.

[PRESENTATIONS]

SO I INVITE CHIEF CALDERWOOD AND SHERRY CLERK, CITY CLERK SHERRY FREISINGER. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

I STATE YOUR NAME.

I, CHRISTIE CALDERWOOD, DO SOLEMNLY AFFIRM.

DO SOLEMNLY AFFIRM, THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AGAINST ALL ENEMIES.

AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE.

THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY, THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY, WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION, WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER.

DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].

NOW THAT THE STANDING OVATION HAS COMPLETELY EMBARRASSED YOU, PLEASE SAY A FEW WORDS.

YES, SIR. TYPE THIS UP BECAUSE I WANTED TO GET IT RIGHT.

THANK YOU MAYOR BLACKBURN AND RESPECTIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY MANAGER SCOTT CHADWICK.

THANK YOU FOR THE TRUST.

AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE, I INTEND TO CONTINUE THE STRONG FOUNDATION OUR DEPARTMENT HAS DEEPLY CEMENTED AND PROVIDING SAFETY AND GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY OF CARLSBAD. I STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE ME, AND I HAVE TO THANK CHIEF MICKEY WILLIAMS FOR PASSING ON THE BATON AND THE INCREDIBLE WORK HE HAS DONE OVER THE LAST 29 YEARS.

I CERTAINLY DID NOT GET HERE ALONE.

I'VE HAD MUCH SUPPORT OVER MY 18 YEAR CAREER TO INCLUDE FRIENDS, MENTORS, COWORKERS, AND I HAVE TO THANK MY AMAZING FAMILY TO INCLUDE AND ESPECIALLY MY HUSBAND, WHO'S KNOWN WITHIN THE CITY AS THE FIRE CHIEF AND HAS HIS OWN STANDING AS A PUBLIC SERVANT, BUT IS ALSO MY ROCK AND AN AMAZING DAD TO OUR TWO GIRLS.

I UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITY THIS POSITION HOLDS, SERVING AS THE PUBLIC SERVANT THAT CARRIES THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT.

BUT ALSO SERVING AS THE LEADER TO THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PUT THE BADGE ON EACH AND EVERY DAY, AS WELL AS THE DISPATCHERS AND SUPPORT PERSONNEL THAT HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES LIVES TO PUBLIC SERVICE.

THE MOST VALUABLE ASSET AT THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OUR PEOPLE.

OUR PERSONNEL DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB, OFTENTIMES UNDER THE MOST TRYING CIRCUMSTANCES.

TO THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT MAKE UP THIS GREAT DEPARTMENT.

MANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY.

IT IS MY DISTINCT HONOR AND AN ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS YOUR CHIEF.

TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE VIGILANT IN PROTECTING THIS GREAT CITY AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE, WORK AND PLAY HERE.

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OUR DEPARTMENT UNDERSTANDS THAT COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS ARE TRULY THE UNDERPINNING OF A SAFE COMMUNITY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO MAINTAINING THE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITIES TO CULTIVATE NEW ONES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH [APPLAUSE].

CHIEF, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAY FOR UNTIL AFTER ALL OF THE PROCLAMATIONS ARE READ? WE'D LIKE TO DO A GROUP PICTURE AND WOULD COUNCIL LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? CAROLYN. LADIES, THIS IS GIRL POWER [APPLAUSE].

CONGRATULATIONS, VERY EXCITED.

I WAS WITH CHIEF WILLIAMS JUST ON MONDAY TALKING ABOUT HOW PRIVILEGED WE ARE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO HAVE A POLICE CHIEF THAT IS INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND BOTH THE CALDERWOOD'S ARE AS WELL AND THEY'RE MY NEIGHBORS AND I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

SO REALLY WE DON'T SEE THIS OFTEN IN CITIES A LOT AND THEY'RE IMPLANTS FROM OTHER CITIES THAT COME IN.

AND IT'S JUST A PRIVILEGE TO HAVE THESE TWO AS OUR LEADERS, THANK YOU.

MRS. ACOSTA.

THANK YOU, I AM SO PLEASED AND PROUD TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEW CHIEF.

I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SUCH AN AMAZING CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH GREAT PEOPLE AND YOU'RE PART OF THAT, YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE COME UP THROUGH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOUR FAMILY IS HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.

AND SO MANY FRIENDS AND OTHER SUPPORTERS AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU JOIN US IN THIS NEW CHAPTER OF YOUR CAREER.

THANK YOU, MISS BHAT-PATEL.

YES, THANK YOU.

YEAH CHIEF CALDERWOOD.

IT'S SO EXCITING.

CONGRATULATIONS. I THINK OVER THE PAST ALMOST SIX YEARS THAT I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ALONGSIDE YOU.

IT'S BEEN SO EXCITING TO SEE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO THE OTHER CHIEF CALDERWOOD ABOUT HOW AMAZING YOU ARE.

JUST SEEING THAT YOU HAD GONE OFF TO, LIKE, THE FBI ACADEMY.

I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE DOING THAT.

NOW YOU'RE A PRESIDENT OF THE PEACE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF THE ENTIRE STATE, WHICH IS REALLY AWESOME FOR OUR CITY TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP AT THE STATE LEVEL.

IT'S JUST REALLY COOL TO SEE THAT THERE'S A WOMAN WHO IS GOING TO BE IN LEADERSHIP.

I KNOW YOU HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS, WHICH I'M SURE THEY'RE VERY PROUD.

I SEE THEM HERE.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE A NORTH COUNTY THROUGH AND THROUGH PERSON AND, YOU KNOW CARLSBAD LIKE THE BACK OF YOUR HAND.

SO WE'RE IN REALLY GREAT LEADERSHIP AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ALONGSIDE YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. MANY YEARS AGO, YOU TOOK THE PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST TO BECOME A CARLSBAD POLICE OFFICER, AND I WAS ONE OF THE OFFICERS WHO EVALUATED YOU AT THE TIME, HAD NO IDEA WHO YOU WERE.

AND I WANT TO TELL THE STORY BECAUSE IT JUST SHOWS HOW CHRISTIE IS.

SHE RAN THE OBSTACLE COURSE, RAN IT FULL BORE, AND SHE TRIPPED AND FELL AND SKINNED HER KNEES.

THE REST OF US WOULD STOP, LOOK AT OUR KNEES, WIPE OFF THE DIRT, AND THEN KEEP RUNNING.

SHE DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT HER KNEES.

SHE POPPED UP, CONTINUED, AND CONTINUED TO RUN THAT OBSTACLE COURSE.

THAT MEANT SO MUCH TO ME THAT THAT'S STILL IN MY BRAIN.

I THINK IT'S A BIG COMPLIMENT.

I TALK TO THE POLICE OFFICERS ALL THE TIME, AND ANYTIME THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROMOTION, YOU HAVE SOME DETRACTORS, SOME SUPPORTERS.

THAT'S ANYWHERE YOU GO.

SINCE CHRISTIE WAS ANNOUNCED AS BEING THE NEXT CHIEF, I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE EMPLOYEE, ONE OFFICER SAY ONE THING THAT WASN'T SUPPORTIVE OF YOU, CHRISTIE. AND THAT'S THE FIRST TIME, I THINK, IN A LONG TIME THERE'S BEEN ANY PROMOTIONS IN ANY ORGANIZATION THAT SOMEBODY WASN'T A DETRACTOR.

GOOD FOR YOU. YOU'VE EARNED THAT.

SO CONGRATULATIONS [APPLAUSE].

AND PLEASE STAND BY, BECAUSE AFTER THE PROCLAMATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A PHOTOGRAPH.

AND CHRISTIE'S FAMILY AND SUPPORTERS CAN BE PART OF THAT PHOTOGRAPH.

NEXT, I INVITE COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER FOR THE PROCLAMATION OF RECOGNITION OF ARTS COMMISSIONER LAURENN BAKER, BARKER.

THANK YOU MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO INVITE LAURENN BARKER UP TO THE PODIUM NOW, THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR LAURENN BARKER, THE ARTS COMMISSION.

WHEREAS LAURENN BARKER HAS SERVED TWO FULL TERMS AS AN ARTS COMMISSIONER WITH DEDICATION AND DISTINCTION.

AND WHEREAS DURING LAURENN'S TENURE, SHE SERVED AS THE CHAIR OF THE CARLSBAD ART COMMISSION AND AS A KEY STAKEHOLDER IN DEVELOPING AND APPROVING THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S ART

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AND WHEREAS, LAURENN PARTICIPATED IN GATHERING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK FOR THE AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS, ECONOMIC AND PROSPERITY STUDY AND ADVOCATED FOR THE CREATIVE SECTORS INTERSECTION WITH THE BUSINESS SECTOR AND PROMOTING ECONOMIC INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THE LAUNCH OF THE BUSINESS OUTREACH COMMITTEE IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CARLSBAD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

AND WHEREAS, LAURENN'S ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT OF THE ARTS HELPED TO SECURE MEANINGFUL PROGRAMS INCLUDING GUEST ARTIST RESIDENCIES, EXHIBITIONS IN THE CANON ART GALLERY, PUBLIC ART PROJECTS, INCREASES TO COMMUNITY ARTS GRANTS, FUNDING, AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF CREATIVE AND ONLINE PROGRAMS DURING THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, COUNCIL MEMBER MELANIE BURKHOLDER, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL, HEREBY RECOGNIZE LAURENN BARKER FOR HER EIGHT YEARS OF DEDICATED VOLUNTEER SERVICE ON THE CARLSBAD ARTS COMMISSION, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HER CONTINUED ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY.

CONGRATULATIONS [APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DON'T HAVE A PREPARED SPEECH AT ALL.

I'M A DOER, NOT A SPEAKER.

BUT I HAVE ENJOYED.

THIS IS A THIS HAS BEEN A VERY, VERY DIFFERENT TIME FOR CARLSBAD AND THE ARTS.

WE STARTED WITH THE MASTER PLAN THEN WE WENT THROUGH COVID.

WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES AND A LOT OF PROGRESS, AND THE ARTS ARE BETTER THAN THEY'VE EVER BEEN, AND I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO STAYING IN TOUCH INVOLVED.

THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].

NEXT, I INVITE COUNCIL MEMBER BHAT-PATEL TO PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION FOR RECOGNITION OF EARTH MONTH.

YES THANK YOU.

AND I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE THAT IT'S EARTH MONTH THIS MONTH.

WE'LL. I'M SURE BE.

IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO BE A PART OF A CLEAN UP, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE DOING THAT LATER THIS MONTH OR DOING SOME OTHER ACTIONS THROUGHOUT YOUR HOUSE TO LEAD A MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

I KNOW THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN AFFECTING ALL OF US THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

AND SO IN RECOGNITION OF THAT, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION.

SO WHEREAS APRIL 22ND OR 22ND, 2024 MARKS THE 54TH ANNIVERSARY OF EARTH DAY CELEBRATED IN CITIES ACROSS OUR NATION AND IS A CELEBRATION TO UNITE EVERYONE IN AN EFFORT TO PROTECT THE PLANET.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS SEVERAL EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF APRIL FOR RESIDENTS TO CELEBRATE EARTH MONTH AND EMPOWER THEMSELVES WITH KNOWLEDGE TO CONSERVE AND PROTECT OUR PLANET EARTH.

AND WHEREAS, RECOGNIZING THE DETRIMENTAL IMPACT OF SINGLE USE PLASTICS ON OUR ENVIRONMENT AND ECOSYSTEMS, CARLSBAD HAS TAKEN PROACTIVE STEPS TO LEAD IN THE REGION BY IMPLEMENTING BANS ON SINGLE USE PLASTICS AND INITIATING ROBUST OUTREACH PROGRAMS TO EDUCATE AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES.

AND WHEREAS, LOCAL COMMUNITIES CAN LEAD THE WAY IN TAKING SUCH STEPS TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE OUR NATURAL RESOURCES BY ENCOURAGING SUSTAINABLE WATER AND ENERGY CONSUMPTION, TRANSPORTATION PRACTICES, WASTE REDUCTION AND RECYCLING.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS COMMITTED TO OUR COMMUNITY VALUES OF PRESERVING AND PROTECTING OPEN SPACE AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, PROMOTING ACTIVE, HEALTHY LIFESTYLES AND ENCOURAGING CONSERVATION.

THEREFORE, I, COUNCIL MEMBER PRIYA BHAT-PATEL, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2024 AS EARTH MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL INTRODUCE LAURA ANTHONY, THE ZERO WASTE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, TO THE PODIUM.

THANK YOU MAYOR BLACKBURN AND CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND COMMITMENT TO THE RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR ENVIRONMENT HERE IN CARLSBAD.

AT ZERO WASTE SAN DIEGO, WE WE WORK TO PROMOTE AND MANAGE ZERO WASTE PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY TO HELP EDUCATE RESIDENTS ON HOW TO HELP PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT THROUGH SUSTAINABLE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

EVERYTHING IS A RESOURCE AND JUST THROWING IT AWAY WON'T HELP OUR COMMUNITIES, LIKE AT CARLSBAD CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS THE GOAL OF ZERO WASTE.

WE MUST START BY CHANGING OUR THINKING, WHEN WE CHANGE HOW WE THINK, WE CHANGE HOW WE BEHAVE AND RESPOND TO CONSUMER BEHAVIOR.

THROUGH EVENTS LIKE SAN DIEGO FIXIT CLINIC.

WE FOCUS ON THE FOUR R'S THAT PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS TO BEGIN CREATING A SUSTAINABLE SOCIETY.

REFUSE. SAY NO TO THE PRODUCTS THAT AREN'T NECESSARY.

REDUCE USING LESS AND SHRINKING WHAT YOU CONSUME.

REUSE REPURPOSING AN ITEM PAST ITS ORIGINAL PURPOSE.

REPAIR GIVING AN ITEM EXTRA LIFE BY FIXING WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.

OUR COLLABORATION WITH THE SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT DIVISION UNDERSCORES OUR COMMITMENT TO FOSTERING CULTURE OF SUSTAINABILITY IN CARLSBAD.

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AS WE COMMEMORATE THE 54TH ANNIVERSARY OF EARTH DAY WE ARE THRILLED TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMUNITY OF CARLSBAD IN HOSTING A SERIES OF EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF APRIL.

EARTH MONTH SERVES AS A REMINDER AND COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY T DECEASE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT.

PARTICULARLY IN COMBATING THE PERVASIVE ISSUE OF PLASTIC POLLUTION.

WE INVITE ALL RESIDENTS TO PARTAKE IN THE CELEBRATION OF EARTH MONTH BY MAKING SMALL STEPS THAT HAVE A BIG IMPACT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR STEADFAST SUPPORT AND COMMITMENT.

TOGETHER, LET US PAVE THE WAY TOWARDS A GREENER AND MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]. LET'S START WITH THE CHIEF'S PHOTOGRAPHS.

WILL YOU PLEASE COME HERE TO THE CENTER AND INVITE ALL OF YOUR SUPPORTERS.

AND THEN THE COUNCIL STAND BEHIND YOU.

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NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

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THE BROWN ACT AND THE CITY'S MEETING RULES.

FIRST, LET'S DO THE REPORT OUT ON CLOSED SESSION.

[PUBLIC REPORT OF ANY ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION]

IN A CLOSED SESSION MEETING THIS AFTERNOON, AND AS AUTHORIZED BY THE BROWN ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO REFER THE MATTER TO THE GRAND JURY.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

THE BROWN ACT AND THE CITY MEETING RULES ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS ARE REGARDING MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS RELATE TO THE QUESTION OR MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION.

INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT FOR UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN MAKING YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.

THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME.

PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, AT THE 2.5 MINUTE MARK THERE'S A LIGHT ON THE PODIUM WILL TURN YELLOW, GIVING YOU A NOTICE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE 30 SECONDS.

I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE THREE MINUTES, SO EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.

PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, MARY LUCID.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'VE BEEN SUSPENDED FROM THE CARLSBAD SENIOR CENTER FOR NINE MONTHS UNTIL DECEMBER 4TH FOR WALKING AGGRESSIVELY AND ASKING A NEW PERSON, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HELP SENIORS? I DON'T RECALL UNDER THE OLD CITY MANAGER OR THE OLDER MAYOR, MATT HALL, OR THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT STEPPING IN TO SAY, WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON? YOU CAN'T SIT DOWN WITH SOMEONE AND FIGURE OUT HOW BEST TO HANDLE ANDY KOHLER, WHO FEELS THAT AS A RECREATION SPECIALIST SHE CAN REPORT PEOPLE INSTEAD OF SOLVE ISSUES AND MAKE THIS SENIOR CENTER A FRIENDLY PLACE WHERE SENIORS CAN GO AND SEE MOVIES AND THEY CAN'T SHOW MOVIES.

THEY ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE WHY THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL TELLS THE CITY MANAGER WHAT TO DO.

SO DO YOU REALLY WANT THE SENIOR CENTER TO GO DOWNHILL AND PEOPLE TO BE SUSPENDED, AND TO TAKE MONEY FROM AARP FOR AN AGE FRIENDLY SENIOR CENTER.

THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND YET YOU CAN'T GET ALONG WITH CROTCHETY OLD SENIORS WHO WANT TO LISTEN TO MUSIC IN THE CAFETERIA. BUT OH, NO THEY'RE WALKING AGGRESSIVELY.

I NEVER LEFT THE TABLE.

AND ONCE I PARK IT AND I'M LISTENING TO MUSIC.

FORGET WALKING MUCH LESS AGGRESSIVELY.

SO IF YOU ALLOW PARKS AND REC TO SAY WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE WE LIKE, PEOPLE WHO DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR LACK OF SERVICES, OUR DECREASING SERVICES, THEN THAT'S UP TO YOU.

BUT I THINK THE PEOPLE HERE IN CARLSBAD AND SURROUNDING AREAS WANT MORE.

YOU WANT TO BE LEADERS, YOU WANT TO FIND LEADERS, THEN LEAD.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY UNACCEPTABLE TO BAN A SENIOR FROM THE CARLSBAD SENIOR CENTER FOR NINE MONTHS.

BESIDES THAT, SHE HAS 30 POUNDS ON ME.

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WHY DON'T YOU COME TO THE SENIOR CENTER, SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE.

OH, WELL, I'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

BUT CHECK INTO IT.

THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

DO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOOSE TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS? MOTION, PLEASE.

MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

CONSENT CALENDAR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

[5. ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT’S MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY AND INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE RENEWING THE POLICY]

GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS THE ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY AND INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE RENEWING THE POLICY MAKING.

OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS LIEUTENANT RYAN OPEKA.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, STAFF COUNCIL, MR. MAYOR. MY NAME IS RYAN OPEKA I'M A LIEUTENANT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE.

AND TONIGHT I'M GOING TO DISCUSS WITH YOU THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ANNUAL REPORT ON THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT, AS WELL AS PROVIDE YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE TO RENEW THE AMENDED POLICY FOR NEXT YEAR.

DURING THIS PRESENTATION, I WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF AB 41 AND A SUMMARY OF OUR POLICY.

I WILL ALSO GIVE YOU A REVIEW OF OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT INVENTORY, WHILE PROVIDING YOU WITH FINDINGS FROM OUR 2023 MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE REPORT.

AND AFTER OUTLINING THE PROCESS, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

ON SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2021, GOVERNOR NEWSOM SIGNED INTO LAW ASSEMBLY BILL 41, WHICH RELATES TO THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

THIS APPLIES TO ALL CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

THE INTENT OF THE LAW IS FOR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT MILITARY EQUIPMENT IS BEING UTILIZED.

THANK YOU. AND THE GOAL IS TO BETTER INFORM THE PUBLIC TO HELP ELECTED LEADERS SUCH AS YOURSELF, TO DECIDE WHETHER TO FUND, ACQUIRE OR USE SUCH EQUIPMENT IN THE FUTURE. TWO YEARS AGO, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE POLICY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AB 41 ALSO REQUIRES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PRODUCE A REPORT.

THIS REPORT IS TO OUTLINE ALL USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT DURING THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND ANY RELEVANT INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT USE.

AND THEN LASTLY, THE STATUTE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO APPROVE.

IT NEEDS TO BE BY ORDINANCE, THE LAW OUTLINES THAT THAT'S HOW THIS SHALL TAKE PLACE.

WHAT EXACTLY IS MILITARY EQUIPMENT? THE CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE REQUIRES THAT ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT HAVE MILITARY EQUIPMENT HAVE A MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY.

THE POLICY MUST BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL EACH YEAR.

NOW, THE TERM MILITARY EQUIPMENT, IT'S NOT DEFINED IN THE LAW.

RATHER, CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 770 LISTS SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF ITEMS DEEMED TO BE MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

THE COMPLETE LIST OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

HOWEVER, A FEW EXAMPLES THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THIS LIST INCLUDE DRONES, ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS, COMMAND POST VEHICLES, FIREARMS OF A CERTAIN CALIBER, SPECIALIZED FIREARMS THAT ARE UNDER 50 CALIBER, LESS LETHAL MUNITIONS SUCH AS BEANBAGS, RUBBER BULLETS, AND SPECIALTY IMPACT MUNITIONS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE LAUNCHING PLATFORMS. IN ORDER TO POSSESS THIS EQUIPMENT, WE MUST SHOW A NECESSITY FOR EACH ITEM AND DEMONSTRATE HOW IT IS USED TO SAFEGUARD THE PUBLIC'S WELFARE, SAFETY, CIVIL RIGHTS, AND CIVIL LIBERTIES. THIS INFORMATION IS ALL CAPTURED WITHIN A DOCUMENT WE CALL THE INVENTORY.

I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.

THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY MUST CONSIST OF A DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF EACH TYPE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT THAT IS USED.

THIS PART OF THE POLICY, THE INVENTORY THAT I REFERRED TO ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE HAS TO HAVE THE AUTHORIZED USE FOR EACH TYPE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT, THE LEGAL AND PROCEDURAL RULES FOR GOVERNING ITS USE, AND THE COST OF EACH ITEM, AS WELL AS THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS TO USE THOSE ITEMS.

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ADDITIONALLY, WHILE THE POLICY PROVIDES A MECHANISM TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE, IT MUST ALSO HAVE A METHOD FOR SUBMITTING COMPLAINTS AND QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

OKAY, SOME MORE ON THE INVENTORY.

THE INVENTORY DOCUMENT WAS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE CLEAR, DETAILED INFORMATION IN A FORMAT THAT IS EASILY TO UNDERSTAND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

EVERY ITEM WITHIN OUR INVENTORY SERVES SOME FORM OF OFFICER OR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSE, WHILE ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO OUR OVERARCHING DE-ESCALATION PRINCIPLES.

CARLSBAD EQUIPMENT IS ALSO ESSENTIAL TO MANAGING MANY OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE HOST LIKE THE MARATHON, THE STREET FAIR, CONCERTS IN THE PARK, A LOT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATIONS, AS WELL AS RESPONDING TO LARGE SCALE INCIDENTS SIMILAR TO THINGS LIKE THE PROTESTS THAT WE EXPERIENCED BACK IN 2020.

MANY OF THE EQUIPMENT ITEMS ARE UTILIZED TO RESOLVE OUR MOST CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

THIS INCLUDES, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO ACTIVE SHOOTER RESPONSE, HOSTAGE RESCUE, BARRICADED SUBJECTS, AND A HIGH RISK WARRANT RESPONSE.

ALL ITEMS IN OUR INVENTORY REQUIRE TRAINING.

MANY OF THE ITEMS REQUIRE ONGOING TRAINING, AND IN CASE OF SUCH ITEMS, LIKE THE LESS LETHAL PLATFORMS AND DRONES, THAT REQUIRES RECERTIFICATION FOR THOSE THAT ARE USING THE ITEMS. IF IT'S A DRONE, IT HAS YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED BY THE FAA BEFORE PILOTING THEM BECAUSE WE USE THEM FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.

AND EACH ITEM WITHIN THE INVENTORY WE MUST COMPLY WITH A VARIETY OF LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND ALL DEPARTMENT POLICIES TO INCLUDE OUR USE OF FORCE AND DE-ESCALATION POLICIES.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE GRAPH HERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR EQUIPMENT IS CONTROLLED BY OUR SWAT TEAM.

TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS UAVS AND OTHER CAMERA PLATFORMS WILL PROVIDE US WITH REAL TIME INFORMATION, ENABLING US TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS PRIOR TO ENGAGING A HOSTILE SUBJECT OR A PERSON IN DISTRESS.

POLICE LESS LETHAL EQUIPMENT PROVIDES CRITICAL ALTERNATIVES TO LETHAL FORCE IN VIOLENT INTERACTIONS WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE OFTEN ARMED OR REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT DANGER TO THE PUBLIC.

HAVING MULTIPLE OPTIONS ON A CONTINUUM ALLOWS FOR A MORE NUANCED APPROACH TO RESOLVING VOLATILE SITUATIONS.

THE FIREARMS INCLUDED IN THIS DOCUMENT REPRESENT THOSE ALTERNATIVES TO THE TRADITIONAL PISTOLS THAT ARE CARRIED BY ALL POLICE OFFICERS.

OFFICERS RECEIVE SIGNIFICANT TRAINING IN THE SAFE USE, MANIPULATION AND OPERATION OF THESE FIREARMS. WHEN ALL OTHER ATTEMPTS AT GAINING VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE HAVE FAILED CHEMICAL AGENTS CAN ENCOURAGE SUBJECTS TO MOVE TO A LOCATION OF DISADVANTAGE AND INCREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR SAFELY TAKING THEM INTO CUSTODY.

AND THEN THE ABILITY TO SUCCESSFULLY GAIN AND SECURE A LOCATION CAN ENABLE US TO APPLY LIFE SAVING AID, AND THE BREACHING EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE INVENTORY ALLOWS US TO DO THAT.

AND THEN LASTLY, HERE WE HAVE THE THREE VEHICLES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS REPORT.

THAT WOULD BE OUR BEARCAT, OUR SWAT AMBULANCE AND THE COMMAND POST.

OKAY. THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THE FINDINGS OF THIS REPORT.

AND IN ORDER TO RENEW THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY, THE CITY COUNCIL MUST DETERMINE, BASED ON THE 2023 MILITARY EQUIPMENT REPORT, WHETHER EACH TYPE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT HAS COMPLIED WITH THE FOLLOWING STANDARDS.

ONE, THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT IS NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED THAT CAN ACHIEVE THE SAME OBJECTIVE OF OFFICER AND CIVILIAN SAFETY. TWO, THE POLICY WILL SAFEGUARD THE PUBLIC WELFARE, SAFETY, CIVIL, CIVIL RIGHTS, AND CIVIL LIBERTIES.

THREE, THE EQUIPMENT IS REASONABLY COST EFFECTIVE COMPARED TO AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVES THAT CAN ACHIEVE THE SAME OBJECTIVE OF OFFICER AND CIVILIAN SAFETY.

AND FOUR, PRIOR MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE, COMPLIED WITH THE POLICY THAT WAS IN EFFECT AT THE TIME, OR IF PRIOR USES DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE POLICY.

CORRECTIVE ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN TO REMEDY NON-CONFORMING USES AND ENSURES FUTURE COMPLIANCE.

IF THE CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT IDENTIFIED IN THE 2023 REPORT HAS NOT COMPLIED WITH THE STANDARDS OF APPROVAL, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY DECLINE TO RENEW AUTHORIZATION FOR THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT, OR REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO THE POLICY TO RESOLVE THE NONCOMPLIANCE.

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NOW THAT YOU HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE AND THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT ITSELF, I'D LIKE TO JUMP INTO OUR 2023 REPORT.

THE REPORT HAS SIX AREAS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

THOSE SIX AREAS ARE A SUMMARY OF HOW THE EQUIPMENT WAS USED.

A SUMMARY OF ANY COMPLAINTS.

THE RESULT OF ANY AUDITS STEMMING FROM A VIOLATION OF THE EQUIPMENT POLICY AND THE TOTAL COST OF THE EQUIPMENT TO INCLUDE TRAINING MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL.

SO THIS IS HOW OUR EQUIPMENT WAS USED, IN 2023, THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT USED OUR EQUIPMENT ACROSS A WIDE SPECTRUM OF EVENTS.

THE SWAT TEAM CARRIED OUT 23 MISSIONS SEPARATE FROM DAY TO DAY FIELD IMPLEMENTATION.

OF THOSE 23 MISSIONS, 9 WERE HIGH RISK SEARCH AND OR ARREST WARRANTS, 4 CRITICAL INCIDENT CALL OUTS.

ONE WAS A TWO DAY DIGNITARY PROTECTION ASSISTING THE SECRET SERVICE WITH THE FIRST LADY AS SHE STAYED IN CARLSBAD.

AND 9 WERE CLASSIFIED AS QUICK REACTION FORCE DEPLOYMENTS.

SO THESE ARE LIKE PRE STAGED EVENTS.

MAYBE THE STREET FAIR OR HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATIONS WHERE THERE'S VULNERABLE TARGETS.

AND THEN SEPARATE FROM THE SWAT TEAM, BUT ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH WE HAD 168 DRONE DEPLOYMENTS.

SO THIS IS OFTENTIMES LIKE OPEN AREA SEARCHES, HIGH RISK CONTACTS MISSING PERSON SEARCHES AND AGENCY ASSISTS.

AS FOR COMPLAINTS RECEIVED BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY REGARDING THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT, WE HAD ZERO FOR THE YEAR OF 2023.

AND THEN FOR ALL OF 23, SINCE THERE WERE NO REPORTED POLICY VIOLATIONS RELATED TO THE USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT, WE HAD ZERO AUDITS.

BUT THE LACK OF ANY AUDITS SHOULD NOT BE MISCONSTRUED TO MAKE ANYONE BELIEVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT REFLECTIVE.

AS A STANDING ORDER, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT WAYS TO IMPROVE AND AND SEEKING THAT IMPROVEMENT.

THE TOTAL COST OF THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT CAN BE FOUND IN THE ITEMIZED INVENTORY THAT'S PUBLISHED WITHIN THE POLICY, AS WELL AS WITHIN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ASSOCIATED COSTS HAPPEN UNDER OUR SWAT TEAM, AS THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF 83% OF THE EQUIPMENT.

AND THE BREAKDOWN FOR THE COST OF THE SWAT TEAM IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

THE QUANTITY FOR EACH OF THESE ITEMS IS ALSO CONTAINED IN THIS INVENTORY.

THE LIST CONTAINS 53 SEPARATE ITEMS, ONLY SEVEN OF WHICH ARE UTILIZED OUTSIDE OF THE SWAT TEAM.

MUCH OF THE EQUIPMENT REQUIRES SPECIALIZED TRAINING, CERTIFICATION, RETESTING, AND CONTINUAL PROFICIENCY TRAINING, AND IT'S THEREFORE LIMITED TO THE SWAT TEAM BECAUSE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

SO FOR 2024, IN ADDITION TO MAINTAINING OUR CURRENT INVENTORY AND REPLENISHING EXPENDED ITEMS, THE DEPARTMENT IS SEEKING TO MAKE TWO PURCHASES AND ONE EXCHANGE OF EQUIPMENT.

THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT IS SEEKING THE PURCHASE OF FOUR NEW DRONES.

THESE DRONES ARE UPGRADED MODELS AND THEY'RE INTENDED TO REPLACE CURRENT INVENTORY THAT'S BECOME OBSOLETE.

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DRONES IN THE INVENTORY WOULD NOT EXCEED 12, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT AS WE WOULD RETIRE WHATEVER WE REPLACE.

TO BOLSTER OUR DE-ESCALATION PRACTICES, THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT INTENDS TO OUTFIT MORE FIELD PERSONNEL WITH HIGHLY ACCURATE, LESS LETHAL 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHERS.

THIS WOULD BE REPLACING BEANBAG SHOTGUNS, WHICH, AGAIN, ARE ARE KIND OF BECOMING OUT OF DATE AND OBSOLETE.

WE'RE SEEKING TO ADD AT MOST 16 40 MILLIMETER LAUNCHERS TO OUR CURRENT APPROVED INVENTORY OF EIGHT.

AND THEN THE SWAT TEAM WE HAVE TWO MORE THE SWAT TEAM WILL BE EXCHANGING CURRENT THEIR CURRENT RIFLES FOR A SMALLER CALIBER PLATFORM.

THE EXCHANGE OF THESE RIFLES WILL REDUCE AMMUNITION COSTS YEAR OVER YEAR BY SWITCHING TO A CALIBER THAT'S CURRENTLY USED BY THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN IN 2023, WE WERE WE APPLIED FOR AND WERE AWARDED A PRIORITY THREE UASI GRANT FOR THE ACQUIREMENT OF A NEW BEARCAT. SHOULD THIS GRANT BE AWARDED, THE PURCHASE WOULD NOT BE REALIZED FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND INTO THE FUTURE, BUT WE FELT THAT WE SHOULD DISCLOSE THAT OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

SO TWO YEARS AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED OUR FIRST POLICY.

IT WAS RENEWED LAST YEAR WITH YOUR APPROVAL.

THE PROCESS FOR FOR MOVING FORWARD AS THE LAW REQUIRES, IS THAT YOU REVIEW REAUTHORIZE ANY ORDINANCE.

WE PREPARED THAT ANNUAL REPORT.

WE THEN SUBMIT THE ANNUAL REPORT TO YOU FOR REVIEW AND REAUTHORIZATION, AGAIN WITH ANY AMENDMENTS.

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THAT'S TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMUNITY MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THAT EQUIPMENT.

WE ARE PROPOSING A POLICY CHANGE THIS YEAR.

FOR FUTURE ACQUISITIONS OF ADDITIONAL NON CONSUMABLE EQUIPMENT CURRENTLY HELD IN THE DEPARTMENT'S INVENTORY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS AMENDING THE CURRENT POLICY TO ADD WHAT'S FEATURED HERE IN RED.

THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL, SHOULD THE NEED FOR EXPANSION OCCUR MID-YEAR.

THIS CHANGE WOULD BRING CARLSBAD POLICE IN ALIGNMENT WITH INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES, SO OTHER AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTY ARE ALREADY OPERATING IN THE PROPOSED WAY. SO AS THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT COORDINATOR WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I HAVE PREPARED THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ANNUAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT REPORT.

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE RENEWING THE AMENDMENT, THE AMENDED POLICY 708 IN ACCORDANCE WITH CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY BILL NUMBER 41.

QUESTIONS, OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.

MOTION. THANK YOU.

MOVE, MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE IN AGENDA ITEM FIVE.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

YOU DID A GOOD JOB WHEN THERE'S NOT A SINGLE QUESTION OR A SINGLE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND YOU GOT A 5-0 VOTE.

ITEM NUMBER SIX. CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

[6. LEGOLAND CALIFORNIA PROJECT 2025]

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THIS IS THE LEGOLAND CALIFORNIA PROJECT 2025.

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR SENIOR PLANNER, JASON GOFF, JASON.

THANK YOU MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

TONIGHT, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS HERE TO PRESENT A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL TO REPLACE AN EXISTING ATTRACTION WITHIN THE LEGOLAND CALIFORNIA THEME PARK.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO APPROVE A PROPOSAL TO REPLACE THE LEGOLAND DRIVING SCHOOL AND JUNIOR DRIVING SCHOOL ATTRACTIONS WITH A NEW SPACE THEMED ATTRACTION CONSISTING OF AN INDOOR ROLLER COASTER, A ROTATIONAL TYPE RIDE, A CHILDREN'S PLAY STRUCTURE, AND A PLAY AREA FOR TODDLERS. THE PROJECT IS BEING PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THE CARLSBAD RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN REQUIRES THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT PERMIT THAT INCLUDES STRUCTURES OVER 35FT BE REVIEWED AND DECIDED UPON BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

WITH THIS APPLICATION, LEGOLAND IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF INCREASED BUILDING HEIGHT OR MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE BUILDING THAT IS HOUSING THE INDOOR ROLLER COASTER A S RENDERED HERE ON THIS SLIDE IS A SINGLE STRUCTURE, SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE WITH A PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHT OF 43FT.

PER THE SPECIFIC PLAN, ALL BUILDINGS WITHIN LEGOLAND SHALL NOT EXCEED A HEIGHT OF 35FT OR THREE LEVELS.

HOWEVER, THE SPECIFIC PLAN DOES ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL BUILDING HEIGHT UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 45FT THROUGH A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, PROVIDED THAT THE BUILDING DOES NOT CONTAIN MORE THAN THREE LEVELS.

ALL REQUIRED SETBACKS ARE AT LEAS ARE INCREASED AT A RATIO OF ONE HORIZONTAL FOOT FOR EVERY ONE FOOT OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION BEYOND 35FT, AND THE ADDITIONAL SETBACK AREA IS MAINTAINED AS LANDSCAPED OPEN SPACE.

THIS PROJECT MEETS ALL CRITERIA, AND THAT THE PROPOSED BUILDING CONSISTS OF ONE STORY, AND THE EIGHT FEET OF INCREASED BUILDING HEIGHT IS OFFSET BY AN INCREASED LANDSCAPE SETBACK OF GREATER PROPORTION, SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE 43 FOOT LANDSCAPE SETBACK WOULD OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED A 55 FOOT LANDSCAPE ALREADY EXISTS AS MAINTAINED OPEN SPACE.

THE REQUIRED PERMITS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT INCLUDE A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE REASONS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, AND A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT BECAUSE THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE.

THE PROJECT WAS ANALYZED FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN, THE MELLOW TWO SEGMENT OF OUR CITY'S LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, THE CARLSBAD RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN, AND ALL REQUIRED CITY CODES, POLICIES AND STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.

THE STAFF REPORT AND RESOLUTION IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL, CONTAINS ALL THE ANALYSIS AND FINDINGS TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION.

AT THE JANUARY 17TH PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, THE STAFF PRESENTED THE PROJECT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 6 TO 0.

WITH COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY RECUSED, NO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SPOKE AT THE HEARING.

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HOWEVER, BEFORE I MOVE ON, I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM LEGOLAND ARE HERE TONIGHT IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR THEM.

FIRST, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

MISS LUNA, I HAVE NO EX-PARTE DISCLOSURE.

MISS BURKHOLDER. MISS ACOSTA, I HAVE NO EX-PARTE DISCLOSURES.

MISS BHAT-PATEL SAME.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANY EITHER.

ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? WOW, THAT WAS EASY.

I WANT TO SAY THAT YEARS AGO WHEN LEGOLAND FIRST CAME TO CARLSBAD, THERE WAS A HUGE OUTCRY OF PEOPLE WHO WERE CONCERNED IT WAS GOING TO RUIN THE CITY.

I THINK THEY'VE PROVEN THEMSELVES TO BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

MOTION, PLEASE. YES.

MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ITEM SEVEN CITY MANAGER.

[7. CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION’S SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO AMENDMENTS TO CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE TITLE 21 FOR HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION AND THE 2022 ZONING ORDINANCE CLEANUP]

MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR CITY PLANNER ERIC LARDY, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'LL START THE PRESENTATION WITH BACKGROUND, GO OVER THE RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE REVISIONS AND CONCLUDE WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION.

THIS ACTION RELATES TO TWO ACTIONS THE CITY COUNCIL TOOK IN 2022.

THE FIRST TO IMPLEMENT HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAMS IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE HOUSING CYCLE, AND THE SECOND WAS THE 2022 ZONING ORDINANCE CLEANUP.

BOTH PROJECTS AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH IS PART OF THE CITY'S LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.

THESE AMENDMENTS WERE BATCHED TOGETHER AND SUBMITTED TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION AT THE END OF 2022.

THE COMMISSION TOOK ACTION IN FEBRUARY 2022 ON THE ITEMS, BUT SUGGESTED SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE ADOPTED LANGUAGE.

SINCE THE MODIFICATIONS ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED, THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONSIDER THESE CHANGES.

THIS IS COMMON FOR AMENDMENTS TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

I'LL NOW SUMMARIZE THE SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS.

FOR THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAMS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED ACTION WAS TO MODIFY OUR REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, CLARIFYING THAT ONLY OBJECTIVE LAND USE STANDARDS COULD BE APPLIED.

THE COASTAL COMMISSION PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS THAT CLARIFIED THAT SUBJECTIVE STANDARDS ARE STILL ALLOWED TO BE APPLIED TO PROJECTS WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE, IF THEY'RE PROVIDED TO PROTECT COASTAL RESOURCES UNDER THE COASTAL ACT, STATE HOUSING LAW DOES NOT OVERRULE THE STATE COASTAL ACT.

THE FIRST OF THE TWO SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS FROM THE 2022 ZONING ORDINANCE CLEANUP IS RELATED TO MOBILE HOMES, ADDING REFERENCES THAT MOBILE HOME PARKS MUST COMPLY WITH THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AS IT'S APPLICABLE.

AND THEN THE SECOND CHANGE RELATED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS RELATED TO SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES.

AGAIN, ADDING LANGUAGE, JUST CLARIFYING THAT SMALL WIRELESS FACILITIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AS WELL AS COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS IF THEY'RE PROPOSED WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE.

IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THESE MODIFICATIONS BE APPROVED.

IF THEY ARE NOT APPROVED, THE MODIFICATIONS WOULD NOT BE EFFECTIVE IN THE COASTAL ZONE ENTIRELY.

SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS WERE IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, AND IF THEY ARE NOT APPROVED IN THE COASTAL ZONE, THE STATE COULD REVIEW OUR ELEMENT FOR COMPLIANCE.

SO THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE ACKNOWLEDGING RECEIPT AND APPROVING THE COASTAL COMMISSION'S SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS FOR THESE TWO ITEMS. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE, PLEASE.

YES. MOVE INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.

[8. UPDATE ON MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR AFFIRMED HOUSING’S WINDSOR POINTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT]

MAKING THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES DIRECTOR MANDY MILLS, ALONG WITH OUR CURRENT POLICE CHIEF, MICKEY WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MANDY MILLS I'M THE DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES, AND I'M JOINED BY CHIEF MICKEY WILLIAMS ONE LAST TIME.

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TO PRESENT UPDATES TO THE WINDSOR POINTE MANAGEMENT PLAN.

AT THE MARCH 12TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING BACK AN UPDATED MANAGEMENT PLAN, REFLECTING THREE CHANGES TO THE WINDSOR POINTE MANAGEMENT PLAN. OUR RECOMMENDATION, OUR RECOMMENDED ACTION THIS EVENING, IS TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THE AMENDED MANAGEMENT PLAN AND TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF AS APPROPRIATE. TONIGHT WE ARE PRESENTING THE CHANGES TO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND GIVING A STATUS UPDATE ON ADDITIONAL ACTIONS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 12TH.

THE UPDATED MANAGEMENT PLAN IS INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AS EXHIBIT TWO AND REFLECTS CHANGES TO INCLUDE SECURITY ON SITE AT BOTH LOCATIONS, AND A GUEST CHECK IN AND CHECK OUT PROCEDURE, AND 24/7 REMOTE VIDEO MONITORING.

IN ADDITION TO THE, AS MENTIONED, IN ADDITION TO THE UPDATE TO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING SOME STATUS UPDATES ON SOME OF THE OTHER ACTION ITEMS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED ON MARCH 12TH.

SO STAFF HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE COUNTY HAS AUTHORIZED USING THE PROJECT'S OPERATING RESERVES FOR ON SITE SECURITY.

SO TO HELP THE PROJECT IN COMING YEARS, THE CITY WILL ADVOCATE TO THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO USE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF OPERATING RESERVES IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS THAN IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED.

JUST THIS AFTERNOON, THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SUPERVISORS VOTED TO DEVELOP A PLAN FOR USING NO PLACE LIKE HOME OPERATING RESERVE FUNDS TO ADD SUPPLEMENTAL SECURITY AT WINDSOR POINTE, AND TO ADVOCATE TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO MAXIMIZE THE FUNDING FLEXIBILITY OF CAPITAL OPERATING RESERVES FOR THE WINDSOR POINTE PROJECT.

WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH ALL PROJECT PARTNERS TO DIVERT ISSUES TO ON SITE PERSONNEL, AS OPPOSED TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

AT TODAY'S COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, THEY DID VOTE TO CONDUCT A STAFFING STUDY TO ENSURE ADEQUATE STAFFING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK THAT CAN ADDRESS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CONCERNS ON SITE.

THIS INCLUDES TRAINING FOR ALL ON SITE PERSONNEL TO RECEIVE MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID TRAINING, AND TO BE TRAINED ON HOW TO REFER PEOPLE TO 24/7 BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESOURCES. ON RESIDENT SERVICES SIDE, THE COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES HAS CONFIRMED A PART TIME BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINICIAN TO BE ON SITE 20 HOURS PER WEEK, AND THIS IS OVER A FIVE DAY PERIOD.

AND THEN AGAIN JUST THIS AFTERNOON, THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS VOTED TO ANALYZE ALL OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO MAXIMIZE THE LEVEL OF SERVICES AND HOURS OF ON SITE CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND REFERRALS TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR WINDSOR POINTE, AND TO IMPLEMENT A PILOT PROGRAM TO INCREASE SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS LIVING IN NO PLACE LIKE HOME UNITS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE ENHANCED CLINICAL SUPPORT SERVICES SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

JUST THIS MORNING, THE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MET TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO ADVOCATE REGARDING ADVOCACY TO ADDRESS THE COORDINATED ENTRY PROCESS REFERRAL PROCESS, AND ALSO MATTERS RELATED TO INCOME CAPS FOR VETERANS.

WE ALSO FOUND OUT THIS AFTERNOON THAT REPRESENTATIVE LEVIN HAS BEEN ENGAGED ON THIS ISSUE, AND WILL SOON INTRODUCE LEGISLATION TO EXCLUDE VA DISABILITY COMPENSATION AND PENSION BENEFITS FROM HUD'S DEFINITION OF INCOME.

I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS UPDATE THIS EVENING IS JUST TO BRING BACK THE CHANGES TO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER ACTIONS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN MARCH ARE STILL IN PROGRESS AND IN PROCESS.

OUR WORK IS CONTINUING AND AS DIRECTED IN MARCH, WE WILL COME BACK IN AUGUST WITH AN UPDATE ON THE REST OF THOSE ADDITIONAL ACTIONS.

AND WITH THAT THE RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR TONIGHT IS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF ON THE UPDATED MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND MYSELF AND CHIEF WILLIAMS ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. SPEAKERS, PLEASE.

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HI GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO START THANKING MANDY AND CHIEF WILLIAMS FOR THE PROGRESS THAT HAS MADE.

I KNOW COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED, BUT IT'S REALLY ENCOURAGING TO SEE THE MOVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FOR.

BUT WINDSOR POINTE STILL ISN'T WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

AND I HAVE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER.

ONE IS IN THE AUGUST MEETING TO HAVE A REPORT OUT ON METRICS.

SO ARE THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING BEING EFFECTIVE AT REDUCING THE WORKLOAD ON THE POLICE.

SEEMS LIKE A STRAIGHT FORWARD THING TO DO AND WE CAN ACCESS WHETHER THE ACTIONS ARE BEING SUFFICIENT OR NOT IN TERMS OF THE PACE OF PROGRESS.

SO THAT WOULD BE ONE. THE SECOND IN REVIEWING THE AFFIRMATIVE HOUSING'S CONTRACT AT WHAT THEY CALL THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PLAN, IT'S VERY HEAVY ON MAKING SURE THE RENT GETS PAID AND IT'S FAIRLY BASED ON CONTENT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT CAUSES FOR EVICTION, IT REFERS TO THE GUEST POLICY AND SOME OTHER THINGS IN VERY VAGUE WAYS.

SO THERE'S YOU KNOW, AND THEN BURIED IN THE DOCUMENT YOU KNOW THE PLAN SECTION 18 ON THE MAINTAINING ADEQUATE ACCOUNTING RECORDS IS WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THE GUEST POLICY.

AND THEN SAFETY AND SECURITY REFERS TO IT ALSO UNDER MAINTENANCE AND SECURITY.

SO THE REQUEST WOULD BE COULD AFFIRMATIVE HOUSING UPDATE THEIR PLAN TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO THE RESIDENTS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN CONTENT CONDUCT WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND GROUNDS FOR EVICTION.

I THINK THEY COULD DO THIS EASILY.

IT WOULD HELP MAKE IT CLEARER WHAT CONTENT CONDUCT IS REASONABLE TO HAVE AS A RESIDENTS OF THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY, AND I THINK WOULD MAKE THE COMMUNITY FEEL SAFER AND BETTER ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION.

SO THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. WINDSOR POINTE IT'S ABOUT CRIME, NOT HOUSING.

LAST TIME I SPOKE TO YOU IN MARCH, WINDSOR POINTE WAS GENERATING ONE CALL A DAY TO POLICE.

I KNOW COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ACTION TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

BUT IS IT MOVING FAST ENOUGH? THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE CHANGED FOR CHANGE WERE MADE ONE YEAR AGO IN A LETTER TO THE CITY AND COUNCIL.

THE WINDSOR RESIDENTS NEED MORE HELP AND OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS MORE PROTECTION FROM CRIME.

I URGE COUNCIL TO MOVE FASTER, TO BUILD ON THE PROGRESS YOU'VE ALREADY MADE, TO ADD MORE MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, TO EASE THE BURDEN ON OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND TO EVICT THOSE THAT ARE CREATING AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT.

THIS SITUATION IS AFFECTING ALL OF US, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY.

MAKE FASTER PROGRESS BY PRIORITIZING STRICTER RULES SO THAT ALL CARLSBAD CITIZENS, INCLUDING THE GOOD CITIZENS WHO LIVE AT WINDSOR POINTE, CAN ENJOY A SAFE AND CALM ENVIRONMENT.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT IS A GROUP, DENNIS JENSEN.

SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF BRAD JACOBS, ROBERT JENSEN AND MARY JENSEN.

DENNIS ARE ALL YOUR GROUP MEMBERS? THEY ARE. OKAY.

MY FAMILY LIVES NEAR WINDSOR POINTE, THE HOMELESS FACILITY.

I'M HERE ON MY DAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY BECAUSE SOME OF YOU, MANY OF YOU PERHAPS SEEM TO THINK THAT THERE'S AN ACCEPTABLE AMOUNT OF HOMELESS WITH CRIMINAL HISTORIES THAT SHOULD BE PUT NEXT TO OUR FAMILIES, NEXT TO KIDS.

THERE'S 23 KIDS ON THE BLOCK.

I JUST HEARD A STORY FROM A LOCAL MOM THAT SHE MET ONE OF THE TENANTS WHO TOLD HER THAT HE HAD JUST BEEN RELEASED FROM PRISON FOR MURDER.

AND THEN HE STALKED HER.

NOW I'M 100% FOR GOOD SOLUTIONS FOR THE HOMELESS PROBLEM.

WINDSOR POINTE IN ITS CURRENT ITERATION IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

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THE ONLY THING WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT IS, IS THIS THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR WINDSOR POINTE? CLEARLY IT IS NOT OR WE WOULDN'T STILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

IN ADDITION, IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS THE NEWS REPORTS HAVE UNCOVERED INTERNAL EMAILS AND OTHER DOCUMENTATION FROM THE CITY WHICH REVEAL MANY MANY DISTURBING ISSUES ABOUT WINDSOR POINTE'S ORIGIN AND OPERATION.

WE WOULD LIKE SOME ANSWERS TO THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS, THOUGH I KNOW THIS ISN'T QUESTION AND ANSWER AND ANSWERS CAN FROM THE LATER.

THESE QUESTIONS WERE PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED BY EMAIL AND THERE ARE MORE DETAILS ON THOSE EMAILS.

QUESTIONS TO THE CITY MANAGER.

WAS THE CITY MANAGER AWARE THAT AFFIRMED HOUSING WROTE STAFF REPORTS FOR WINDSOR POINTE AND SENT STAFF REPORTS TO THE PRINCIPAL PLANNER, DAVID [INAUDIBLE] DE CORDOVA, JUST PRIOR TO THE FINAL APPROVALS AT WINDSOR POINTE? IS IT NORMAL PRACTICE TO HAVE OUTSIDE VENDORS WRITING STAFF REPORTS? IS THIS WHY NO PLACE LIKE HOME FUNDING OBLIGATIONS THAT ARE EXTREMELY HARMFUL TO THE COMMUNITY WERE OMITTED FROM THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION MATERIALS.

DID YOU EXPLAIN TO THE COUNCIL WHAT THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME PROGRAM WAS AND WHAT ITS OBLIGATIONS ARE? WAS THERE ANY KIND OF INFORMATION WORKSHOP ABOUT IT SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS? DID YOU COMMUNICATE THAT IT WOULD LITERALLY IMPORT HOMELESS WITH CRIMINAL HISTORIES FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY, AGAIN, OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY AND DROP THEM INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF KIDS.

DID YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE WINDSOR POINTE WHAT THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME PROGRAM OBLIGATION WERE.

IT APPEARS THAT EITHER YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THIS PROGRAM'S OBLIGATIONS WERE, OR YOU WILLFULLY WITHHELD THEM FROM THE COUNCIL.

WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE FOUR POINT OF THE $4 MILLION LOAN? HOW MUCH HAS BEEN REPAID, AND WHAT'S THE INTEREST ON THAT LOAN? HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT IN CITY SERVICES FOR THE APPROXIMATELY 800 CALLS FOR FIRST RESPONDER NEEDS.

WAS THE CITY MANAGER AWARE THAT AFFIRMED HOUSING WAS MAKING ESCALATING THREATS TO THE CITY STAFF REGARDING AFFIRMS DESIRE NOT TO HAVE WINDSOR POINTE DISCUSSED AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS? WAS THE CITY MANAGER AWARE THAT AFFIRMED HOUSING TOLD CITY STAFF THAT DESPITE PROMISING THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE WOULD BE TENANT BACKGROUND CHECKS, THAT THERE WOULD BE NON TENANTS LIVING AT WINDSOR POINTE AND I QUOTE FOR SUPPORT.

WHO WOULD NOT BE BACKGROUND CHECKED OR EVEN KNOWN TO AFFIRMED OR THE PROGRAM MANAGERS.

WAS THE CITY MANAGER AWARE THAT CITY STAFF DID NOT HAVE EVEN A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF HOW SECURITY AT WINDSOR POINTE WOULD WORK? SO MUCH SO THAT AFFIRMED LITERALLY WROTE THE ANSWERS FOR STAFF ON THE FAQ PAGE OF THE WINDSOR POINTE WEBSITE OF THE CITY OF WINDSOR POINTE'S WEBSITE.

WAS THE CITY MANAGER AWARE THAT AFFIRMED WAS ASKING TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS WITHOUT CITY STAFF PRESENT.

UNDER SIX UNDER SECTION 6.5 OF THE GROUND LEASE THE CITY ALLOWED IS ALLOWED THE RIGHT OF INSPECTION TO THE 24 TO THE PROPERTIES WITH 24 HOUR NOTICE.

HAS THE CITY EVER INSPECTED THE PROPERTY TO ENSURE THAT IT'S BEING KEPT IN GOOD REPAIR, AS REQUIRED UNDER THE GROUND LEASE? THE CITY PURPORTS THAT WINDSOR POINTE, WINDSOR POINTE IS IS VETERAN HOUSING, BUT MANDY MILLS SAID AT THE LAST MEETING THAT IT DOES NOT TRACK THE NUMBER OF VETERANS.

IS THERE ANY MONITORING MONITORING OF WINDSOR POINTE OBLIGATIONS AT ALL UNTIL WE ASK QUESTIONS? WHY DOES THE STAFF REPORT IGNORE A PREMIER SAFETY EXPERT, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, WHO RECOMMENDS A 24 /7 ENHANCED SECURITY TEAM FOR BOTH LOCATIONS.

AND LET ME READ YOU FROM HIS HIS LETTER ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023.

UNIFORM SECURITY.

HE'S ADVOCATING FOR UNIFORM SECURITY ON SITE AT BOTH LOCATIONS 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

HE WANTED TO CHANGE THE POLICY AND REQUIRE ALL VISITORS TO CHECK IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY TO INCLUDE RECORDING THEIR IDENTIFICATION AND VEHICLE INFORMATION OF VISITORS.

HOWEVER, WE GET THE CITY STAFF REPORT RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT'S SIMPLY ON SITE SECURITY AT BOTH LOCATIONS 12 HOURS PER NIGHT AND REQUIRING VISITORS TO SIGN A GUEST BOOK.

THAT SEEMS LIKE SOME PRETTY HARSH DISRESPECT FOR THAT OFFICE.

ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE ARE NOW MORE SECURITY RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE FOR PEOPLE ATTENDING THE CITY SPONSORED CONCERTS IN THE PARK THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE ENTERING WINDSOR POINTE? IF A GUEST BOOK IS EFFECTIVE SECURITY AT WINDSOR POINTE, WHY DON'T WE JUST USE A GUEST BOOK AT THE ENTRANCES TO THOSE CONCERTS INSTEAD OF USING A METAL DETECTOR WAND?

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DID YOU DRAFT THE WINDSOR POINTE GROUND LEASE AND IF NOT, WHO DID? DID YOU READ AND FULLY UNDERSTAND THE GROUND LEASE WITH AFFIRMED AND OTHERS PRIOR TO SIGNING THE LEASE? AND WHY ARE THE TERMS OF THE GROUND LEASE NOT ENFORCED? IN THIS GROUND LEASE WERE AFFIRMED HOUSING, SOLARI AND OTHERS, WERE THEY IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE AT THE TIME OF THE LEASE WAS SIGNED, AS REQUIRED BY PAGES 2 AND 47 OF THE LEASE, AND HAS THIS SECTION OF THE LEASE BEEN BREACHED? ON PAGE 19 OF THE GROUND LEASE, THE SIGNATORIES ARE REQUIRED TO RUN A QUALITY OPERATION, WITH THE LITANY OF ON SITE CRIMES SO EXTENSIVE THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAD TO WRITE A LETTER OF COMPLAINT.

DO YOU BELIEVE AFFIRMED AND THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT REQUIREMENT? IS THIS A QUALITY OPERATION? HAS THIS SECTION OF THE LEASE BEEN BREACHED? WHEN THE CHIEF OF POLICE REQUESTED A FIRM TO OBTAIN PRIVATE SECURITY AT WINDSOR POINTE, THEY STATED THEY COULDN'T AFFORD SECURITY, BUT INSTEAD SPENT MORE THAN $600,000 ON POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.

IS THIS A BREACH OF THE REQUIREMENTS ON PAGE 20 OF THE GROUND LEASE TO ABATE ANY MATERIAL VIOLATION OF THE GROUND LEASE? AND DO YOU BELIEVE AFFIRM IS IN MATERIAL VIOLATION OF ANY, ANY SECTION OF THE GROUND LEASE? IF SO, WHY IS THE CITY NOT PURSUING LEASE TERMINATION AS PROVIDED ON PAGES 44 AND 45 OF THE GROUND LEASE? DO ANY PROPERTY MANAGERS UNDER UNDER AFFIRMED, SOLARI OR [INAUDIBLE] HAVE BACKGROUNDS IN DEALING WITH RESIDENTS WITH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS? THAT'S ALSO A VIOLATION OF THE LEASE.

AND KNOWING THAT A PERSON HAS FALLEN OUT OF THE THIRD STORY BALCONY, THERE WAS A CHILD MOLESTED ON SITE AND ATTEMPTED MURDERERS.

DO YOU BELIEVE THE CURRENT $2 MILLION IN TOTAL INSURANCE COVERAGE IS ADEQUATE FOR WINDSOR POINTE? SHOULD THE GROUND LEASE BE TERMINATED DUE TO AFFIRMED OTHERS NOT BEING IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE AT THE TIME OF SIGNING, AND FOR MULTIPLE BREACHES OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS.

AND WHY WAS THE CALIFORNIA STATE CONSTITUTION ARTICLE 34 IGNORED AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT? IT REQUIRES NEW, AND, I QUOTE, LOW RENT HOUSING PROJECTS FINANCED IN WHOLE OR IN PART BY A PUBLIC BODY, BE AUTHORIZED BY PUBLIC VOTE.

FOR MANDY MILLS, HOW MANY WINDSOR POINTE RESIDENTS HAVE CRIMINAL HISTORIES AND HOW MANY ARE RECENTLY OUT OF INCARCERATION? WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONFIRM THREE RESIDENTS SO FAR, AND 100% OF THEM HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS, INCLUDING MURDER.

NOW THERE ARE SOME NOT SPEAKING UP TONIGHT.

NOT COMING HERE BECAUSE THEY FEEL COMMUNITY CONCERNS ARE CONCERNS ARE NOT RESPECTED.

SAYING WHY BOTHER? IS THAT THE KIND OF GOVERNING THAT YOU WANT TO RUN HERE? ARE YOU GOING TO FIX THIS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD? INSTEAD OF SPINNING POLICE CALL STATISTICS AND IGNORING THE OVERWHELMING POSITION OF THE COMMUNITY, IT'S TIME TO VIEW THE CURRENT ITERATION OF WINDSOR POINTE AS A TEACHABLE MOMENT THAT NEEDS REMEDY.

THAT REMEDY IS IMPROVEMENT.

WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT PREVENTED FROM IMPROVING WINDSOR POINTE.

THAT IMPROVEMENT WOULD BE RELOCATING TENANTS TO A PROPERLY DESIGNED, CENTRALIZED BUILDING WHERE SINGLE, WHOSE SINGLE ENTRANCE CAN BE PROPERLY SECURED TO PREVENT NONRESIDENT INFILTRATION.

TENANTS ARE CLEARLY NOT SAFE AS IT IS, AND NEIGHBORS ARE CLEARLY NOT SAFE AS IT IS.

AND MY FATHER, WHO'S A VETERAN, ASKED ME TO ASK FOR US TO CHECK THE VETERAN STATUS FOR HONORABLE DISCHARGES OF VETERANS THAT WE HAVE LIVING THERE. THANK YOU.

TERRY JACOBS, FOLLOWED BY LARA MANOUSIS.

MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN SIT THERE AND NOW DISCUSS MAKING CHANGES TO A PROGRAM THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SO SUCCESSFUL, AND A WELCOME ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY.

CHANGES ARE TOO SLOW.

IT HAS BEEN ALMOST A MONTH AND ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA PACKET, THERE IS STILL NO VISITOR PROTOCOL IN PLACE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA YOU CAME UP WITH SOMETHING ON THE SPOT AT THE MARCH 12TH MEETING ON HOW THEY COULD POSSIBLY SOLVE THAT.

AND STILL, IT'S A MONTH AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

WHILE MOST ARE COMPASSIONATE AND UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO END OUR HOMELESS ISSUE, PLACING SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL INDIVIDUALS, THOSE DEALING WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE, AND WHAT WE NOW KNOW AND HAVE LONG SUSPECTED INDIVIDUALS RECENTLY RELEASED FROM INSTITUTIONS, JAILS AND OR PRISONS UNDER THE GUISE OF ASSISTING VETERANS IS INCONCEIVABLE. LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, THEY NO LONGER FEEL SAFE.

ADDING SECURITY DOES NOTHING FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

A GROUP OF RESIDENTS MET WITH THE SAN DIEGO DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

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FIND A LOCATION WHERE ALL RESIDENTS ARE SAFE, INCLUDING THOSE LIVING AT WINDSOR POINTE.

WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A COMMUNITY MEETING AND AN AUDIT OF ALL THE FINANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU.

ARTICLE 34 OF THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION STATES THAT NO LOW RENT HOUSING PROJECT MAY BE DEVELOPED OR CONSTRUCTED IN ANY MANNER BY ANY STATE PUBLIC BODY UNTIL APPROVED BY A MAJORITY OF THE QUALIFIED VOTERS IN THE AFFECTED CITY, TOWN, OR COUNTY.

ARTICLE 34 DOES NOT APPLY TO A PROJECT WHEN 49% OR LESS OF THE UNITS ARE DEDICATED TO LOW INCOME OCCUPANTS.

THE WINDSOR POINTE PROJECT HAS DELEGATED 25 OUT OF 48 UNITS FOR EXTREMELY LOW INCOME.

THEY DELEGATED 52%.

LAST I CHECKED, 52% WAS MORE THAN 49%.

ARTICLE 34 FROM THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION REQUIRES A SPECIAL ELECTION VOTE FOR ALL RENT HOUSING PROJECTS.

THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS CLAIMING EXEMPTION FROM THIS REQUIREMENT UNDER CALIFORNIA CODE HEALTH SAFETY CODE HSC 37001A1, THAT STATES THAT A PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM ARTICLE 34, IF NOT MORE THAN 49% OF THE DWELLINGS, APARTMENTS, OR OTHER LIVING ACCOMMODATIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT MAY BE OCCUPIED BY PERSONS OF LOW INCOME.

THE CITY'S OWN HOUSING PLAN AND WEBSITE STATES THAT THIS ENTIRE PROJECT OF WINDSOR POINTE IS FOR PERSONS OF LOW INCOME.

LAST I CHECKED, 100% IS MORE THAN 49%.

THIS PROJECT IS IN VIOLATION OF ARTICLE 34 OF THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION.

AND BY THE WAY, THIS PROJECT IS IN VIOLATION OF THE CARLSBAD CITY CHARTER AS WELL.

THE CARLSBAD CITY CHARTER ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 300 STATES THE INTENT OF THE CHARTER IS TO ALLOW THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE VOTERS TO EXERCISE THE MAXIMUM DEGREE OF CONTROL OVER LAND USE MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THE CITY COUNCIL DID NOT LET THE CITIZENS VOTE ON THIS PROJECT.

NO PLACE LIKE HOME IS NOT ABLE TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS OF ARTICLE 34 AND CALIFORNIA, ACCORDING TO THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AS IT SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT THE LIMITATIONS OF ARTICLE 34 APPLIES TO PROJECTS THAT THAT THE LIMITATIONS OF ARTICLE 34 APPLIES TO PROJECTS THAT ARE USED NO PLACE LIKE HOME.

THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OF STAFF FROM COUNCIL.

MRS. BURKHOLDER, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PASSED.

MY SUPERVISOR, LAWSON REMER AND SUPERVISOR DESMOND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE PROJECT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S IN MY DISTRICT.

IT'S THE THING THAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT AND WAKES ME UP BRIGHT AND EARLY IN THE MORNING.

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

THE STAFF REPORT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UPDATED MANAGEMENT PLAN, IT SAYS THAT A SECURITY GUARD WILL BE ON SITE AT EACH LOCATION FROM 6 TO 6. BUT IT DOESN'T SAY, LIKE, HOW THE SECURITY GUARD IS TRAINED OR TO WHAT CAPACITY THE SECURITY GUARD IS TRAINED.

AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE SPECIFIC NEEDS ARE RELATIVE TO SECURITY AT WINDSOR POINTE.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT? WELL, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A SECURITY GUARD, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE LICENSED THROUGH THE STATE AS A SECURITY GUARD AND MAINTAIN THE MINIMUM PROFICIENCIES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE ANY TYPE OF DE-ESCALATION TRAINING OR FIRST AID, LIKE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, FIRST AID TYPE THINGS OR.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS FOR A SECURITY GUARD.

DO WE KNOW THE COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING THAT OR.

I'M NOT AWARE OF THE COMPANY.

THE MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS MENTIONED IN THE REPORT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO UTILIZE THEM BEFORE.

DO WE KNOW HOW MANY CALLS THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ON? YES, I CAN ANSWER THAT.

SO SINCE WE'VE HAD AN MOU SIGNED WITH THE MCRT AS A CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT SINCE MARCH 1ST OF 2022, AND WE

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AND THEN THERE WERE ADDITIONAL RESPONSES BY MCRT PROACTIVELY ON THEIR OWN BEHALF BASED ON REFERRALS OR INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED.

AND SINCE WE WERE HERE I KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE MCRT REFERRAL BY OUR DEPARTMENT THAT WASN'T CAPTURED IN THIS DATA.

AND THEN HOW MANY DID YOU REFER TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT REFER THAT THEY REFUSE TO RESPOND TO.

THEY DON'T TYPICALLY REFUSE TO RESPOND, BUT THERE MAY BE A DELAY IN RESPONSE IF THEY'RE BUSY FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE WE WE REQUESTED MCRT TO RESPOND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND THEY WERE DOWN IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE COUNTY AND BUSY.

MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT THEY WILL RESPOND, BUT IT MAY BE A DELAYED RESPONSE.

OKAY. THE THE PERMANENT SYSTEM OF VISITOR REGISTRATION IS STILL BEING IDENTIFIED, ACCORDING TO THIS REPORT.

ARE THERE ANY TIME FRAMES SET FOR THAT TO BE IN PLACE? I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF THE WHOLE THING THAT WE HAD WHERE WE HAD SEEN SOME OF THE VISITORS TO THE RESIDENCE WHERE THE BAD ACTORS OR THE PEOPLE THAT WERE YOU NEEDING CALLS FOR SERVICE.

YEAH THE PERMANENT SYSTEM IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOME CAPITAL CHANGES TO THE PROJECT.

SO I, I BELIEVE BY THE BY THE TIME WE COME BACK IN AUGUST, WE'LL HAVE THE PERMANENT SYSTEM BE ABLE TO REPORT OUT ON THAT.

WELL, IT'S IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS, SO ANOTHER WHAT'S THAT? FOUR MONTHS. IT SEEMS LIKE A BIT OF A LONG TIME, SO I'LL REVISIT THAT AT THE END.

THE PROPERTY MANAGER WILL MONITOR AND STRICTLY ENFORCE THE REVISED GUEST REGISTRATION PROCEDURE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REVISED PROCEDURE IS COULD YOU SHARE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? RIGHT.

SO THE UNTIL THE PERMANENT SYSTEM IS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, IT WILL BE A TEMPORARY SYSTEM.

SO EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE SIGNAGE AND PROCESS FOR THE RESIDENTS TO FOLLOW.

SO AS SOON AS THIS REPORT IS YOU KNOW CONSENTED TO BY THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, THEN IT BECOMES OFFICIAL AND THEN THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT COMPANY CAN SEND NOTICES OUT TO THE RESIDENTS TO INFORM THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, NOTIFY SOMEBODY ON STAFF OF THEIR GUESTS AND ESCORT THEM THROUGH THE THROUGH THE BUILDING.

RIGHT. OKAY.

IN THE REPORT, WE, WE TALK ABOUT OR IN THE AGREEMENT, IT TALKS ABOUT INSPECTIONS AT WINDSOR POINTE.

IS IT ACCURATE THAT WE CAN DO AN INSPECTION AT WINDSOR POINTE? YES. AND HAS THERE EVER BEEN AN INSPECTION AT WINDSOR POINTE? YES, WE HAVE DONE A COUPLE WALKTHROUGHS.

AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHERE WE HAVE DONE HOUSING QUALITY STANDARD INSPECTIONS BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE A RENTAL ASSISTANCE VOUCHER.

SO FOR THOSE PARTICULAR UNITS, WE DO INSPECTIONS OF THOSE UNITS.

WHEN WAS THE LAST OH SO OF THOSE PARTICULAR UNITS OKAY.

AND WHEN WAS THE LAST ONE? THE LAST GENERAL INSPECTION.

THEY WERE THERE ON MARCH 13TH, OKAY.

OF THIS YEAR. OKAY.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE RESIDENTS ARE SCREENED, IT DOES SAY THERE ARE NO SEX, NO REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS, AND IT SAYS SEX RELATED FELONY CONVICTION CONVICTIONS WOULD TRIGGER A DENIAL IN A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.

I CAN'T SPEAK IN A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND FINDING.

HAS THAT HAPPENED AT WINDSOR POINTE? YOU MEAN, HAS THERE BEEN A DENIAL FOR THAT? YES. WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON THE SPECIFIC DENIAL.

SO WHAT THE THERE'S A THIRD PARTY CONTRACT THAT DOES THE BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

SO ONCE A THE PROPERTY MANAGER WOULD RECEIVE AN ACCEPT OR A DENIAL OF THE, THE BACKGROUND.

AND SO WE DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC REASONS WHY SOMETHING WAS DENIED, AND THAT'S FOR FAIR HOUSING PURPOSES.

OKAY IN THE HOUSING FIRST PRINCIPLES WE IT TALKS ABOUT APPLICANTS ARE NOT REJECTED ON THE BASIS OF POOR CREDIT OR FINANCIAL HISTORY, POOR OR LACK OF RENTAL HISTORY, CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS UNRELATED TO TENANCY, OR BEHAVIORS THAT INDICATE A LACK OF HOUSING READINESS.

IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT THE USE OF ALCOHOL OR DRUGS IN AND OF ITSELF, WITHOUT OTHER LEASE VIOLATIONS, IS NOT A REASON FOR EVICTION.

HOWEVER, CONSUMING ALCOHOL OR DRUGS IN COMMON AREAS IS A VIOLATION OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD QUALIFY SOMEONE FOR AN EVICTION IF FOR NO PLACE LIKE HOME, IF THAT IS THE BOUNDARY THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

SO GENERALLY THE HOUSING HOUSING FIRST PRINCIPLES ARE TALKING ABOUT USE WITHIN THEIR PRIVATE APARTMENT OR PRIVATE HOME.

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SO THOSE WOULD BE VIOLATIONS AND WOULD BE GO THROUGH THE THE PROCESS THROUGH THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE USING INSIDE THEIR APARTMENT, IT'S NOT A CASE FOR EVICTION.

THAT'S CORRECT. NO PLACE LIKE HOME APPLICANTS WILL BE SCREENED USING A LOW BARRIER CREDIT AND BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT? RIGHT. SO POOR CREDIT IS JUST NOT REASONS FOR DENIAL.

AND THEN ON THE WE'VE EXPLAINED BEFORE THE BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS.

SO THERE IS THE NUMBER OF YEARS AND THEN IT'S FOR FELONY CONVICTIONS OF CERTAIN NATURES.

AND THEN IT WOULD IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WITHIN THAT PERIOD, IT WOULD TRIGGER A DENIAL.

IF IT WERE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE APPLICANT WOULD RECEIVE A NOTICE OF THE DENIAL AND THEIR RIGHTS IF THEY WISH TO ASK FOR AN INDIVIDUALIZED ASSESSMENT. AT THAT POINT IN TIME THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE REASONS YOU KNOW, FOR THE DENIAL AND WHAT THE SITUATION MIGHT BE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY HAD SOMETHING SEVEN YEARS AGO AND SINCE THEN THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH REHAB AND THEY'VE BEEN CLEAN AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF CHANGES IN THEIR LIFE, THAT MIGHT BE A REASON FOR CONSIDERATION.

FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, THOUGH, THERE REALLY HAS NOT BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN REQUESTING INDIVIDUALIZED ASSESSMENTS.

THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

AND SO FROM ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SOMEONE THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED MURDER COULD BE LIVING AT WINDSOR POINTE IF THEY HAD DONE THEIR TIME AND GOT OUT AND WAS NOT OVER THE TIME FRAME? IT'S I MEAN, IF SOME IF SOMEBODY COMMITTED A CRIME, SAY, 20 YEARS AGO AND THEY HAVE BEEN OUT AND THEY ARE NO LONGER THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ON PAROLE OR PROBATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR FELONY ACTIVITY.

THEY MIGHT PASS THE BACKGROUND CHECK FROM THE, THE EXPLANATION, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT PERSON WOULD PASS THE BACKGROUND.

SO WE'D HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION.

AND WOULD THAT BE GROUNDS FOR A TYPE OF INSPECTION, OR HOW WOULD WE EVEN GO ABOUT REMEDYING REMEDYING THAT, THAT SITUATION? WELL, WE'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE COMPANY THAT DOES THE BACKGROUND CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURE, BUT.

SO, IS THAT THE BUT DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE THIRD PARTY PROVIDER OR WOULD WE HAVE T, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH WE THE THE PROPERTY MANAGER WOULD DO THAT.

OKAY. AND THEN COULD WE HAVE A SCHEDULE OF TIME OF, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE QUARTERLY.

THAT WE SEE WHO'S ACTUALLY LIVING AT WINDSOR POINTE, I'VE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES WHO'S ACTUALLY A RESIDENT WHO'S LIVING THERE, HOW MANY VETERANS THERE, HOW MANY NO PLACE LIKE HOME PEOPLE ARE THERE. AND IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE GETTING WERE AT, 762 CALLS WAS THE LAST COUNT I GOT FOR SERVICE FROM OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS OF HOW WE CAN MITIGATE A PROBLEM IF WE'RE NOT FULLY AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT BE LIKE ASKING ABOUT THE THE CRIMINAL BACKGROUND OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ARE BEING ACCEPTED THERE.

NO, I'M NOT NECESSARILY ASKING ABOUT THEIR SPECIFIC CRIMINAL BACKGROUNDS.

I DON'T REALLY NEED TO KNOW THAT.

BUT I THINK IF THERE IS SOMEONE THAT HAD COMMITTED A MURDER WITHIN FIVE YEARS AND THEY'RE OUT AND THAT WOULD NOT BE FOLLOWING THEIR OWN BACKGROUND CHECK PROTOCOL, RIGHT? ACCORDING TO WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU JUST SAY.

RIGHT. SO THE THIRD PARTY.

I MEAN, IF THEY FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE, THEN THAT PERSON WOULD BE A DENIAL.

AND SO THAT PERSON WOULD NOT GET THE.

I'M SORRY. I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF.

I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET TO SOME ACCOUNTABILITY AND PERHAPS LIKE AN AUDIT SITUATION SO WHERE WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO WHO THEY'RE WHO WE'RE PLACING INTO NO PLACE LIKE HOME. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT.

OKAY, SO AUDITING THE BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS.

TO ENSURE THAT IT'S BEING FOLLOWED THE WAY THAT THE CONTRACT SAYS IT SHOULD BE FOLLOWED.

OKAY. I MEAN, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET THERE.

SORRY MISS MILLS ON THE GAS POLICY PROCEDURES, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR STAFF REPORT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY MANAGEMENT USE WILL ENFORCE THE GUEST POLICY USING VARIOUS SECURITY STRATEGIES.

AND I JUST AM CURIOUS, LIKE WHY? RIGHT. SO THIS IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OPTIONS IN PLAY AND SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE AMENDING THIS EVERY TIME WE CHANGE SOMETHING.

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ONE OF THEM WOULD BE A VIRTUAL CHECK IN PROCESS THAT INCLUDES FACIAL RECOGNITION, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THE RESIDENT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO CHECK INTO WITH THIS SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO ADD THIS GUEST INTO THE, INTO THE SYSTEM.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT CHANGES TO THE LOBBY TO ACTUALLY HAVE A PHYSICAL PRESENCE IN THE LOBBY.

SO HAVE MORE EYES ON THE THE ENTRY POINTS.

I'M HOPING THAT THAT MONEY IN THE FUNDING FOR THAT COMES FROM THE COUNTY, AND THAT WE'RE NOT EXPECTING TAXPAYERS TO ABSORB THE COST OF THAT.

WELL, ALL THAT FUNDING WOULD COME FROM TAXPAYER, WHETHER IT CAME FROM THE COUNTY OR THE COSA FUNDS OR RIGHT.

THAT'S WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

OKAY, GOOD. YEAH.

I AM CURIOUS ABOUT I THINK MR. ROBBINS ASKED ABOUT THE METRICS AND REPORTING OUT ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING BEING EFFECTIVE? ARE THEY EFFECTIVE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MEASURE? WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE PLANNED ON REPORTING OUT IN AUGUST TO GAUGE THE TYPES OF CALLS FOR SERVICE AND THE AMOUNT AND THE LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, ARE THIS THOSE RELATED TO GUESTS OR RESIDENTS.

AND SO I THINK WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE REPORTED IN MARCH TO SEE IF THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE.

AND THE SECOND THING HE WAS ASKING ABOUT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS UPDATING THE UNACCEPTABLE CONDUCT.

BUT HAVING JUST GONE OVER THE HOUSING FIRST PRINCIPLES, I'M REALLY WONDERING, YOU KNOW, BEYOND DOING DRUGS IN PUBLIC OR IN THE COMMON SPACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE'S REALLY NO RECOURSE IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY.

WELL, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HOUSE RULES THAT ARE RELATED TO OTHER MATTERS.

SO I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S INFORMATION ABOUT THREATENING BEHAVIOR.

THERE'S INFORMATION ABOUT QUIET ENJOYMENT.

SO THE HOUSE RULES ARE IN THEIR LEASE THAT THEY SIGN.

SO THEY HAVE THEIR LEASE ADDENDUM THAT THEY THEY UNDERSTAND AND THEY'RE AGREEING TO THOSE HOUSE RULES.

AND WE'RE DEPENDING ON [INAUDIBLE] TO ACTUALLY REPORT THOSE OUT TO US, THE VIOLATIONS, IS THAT PART OF Y'ALL'S MONTHLY MEETINGS [INAUDIBLE]. SECURITY MEETINGS THAT THEY MEET WEEKLY, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE SOMEBODY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

AND SO THEY WOULD DISCUSS I WOULD SAY MORE.

YEAH, PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED MATTERS.

I WOULD SAY ANY INFRACTION OF THE LEASE, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SAFETY ISSUE I DON'T THINK WOULD COME UP.

SO IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T PAY THEIR RENT, WE WOULD NOT BE NOTIFIED OF THAT.

NO. RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN [INAUDIBLE] AND THE AND THE TENANT RESIDENT.

EXACTLY. YEAH. OKAY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ARTICLE 34 CITY MANAGER, IF I MAY CITY ATTORNEY, COULD YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT THE SPEAKER WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE SPECIAL ELECTION VOTE AND THE VIOLATION OF ARTICLE 34 CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION? YEAH. FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY THAT ARTICLE 34 HAS BEEN REPEALED BY THE LEGISLATURE, AND IT'S ON THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER 7TH FOR A VOTER APPROVAL OF THAT REPEAL.

AND I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT THIS TRANSACTION WAS STRUCTURED WITH ARTICLE 34 IN MIND.

AND THE CITY IS NOT IN VIOLATION OF ARTICLE 34.

OUR RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROJECT RESTRICT 24 UNITS, WHICH IS LESS THAN 49%, AND THE REMAINING UNITS ARE NOT RESTRICTED.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT KIND OF CLEAR.

I WAS JUST SAYING AT THE START THAT I'M REALLY HAPPY THE SUPERVISORS PASSED THE THE THERE ARE THINGS TODAY, HOWEVER, WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO WHERE THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME FUNDING THE COMMUNITY [INAUDIBLE] . I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT'S CALLED RIGHT NOW, BUT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN AS AN ACRONYM.

SORRY THAT THAT FUNDING CAN ONLY BE USED FOR NO PLACE LIKE HOME FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.

RIGHT. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, SINCE THEY'RE MIXED IN WITH VETERANS, HOW DO WE SQUARE THAT AWAY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET ADDITIONAL SECURITY, BUT THEY CAN ONLY RESPOND TO A NO PLACE LIKE HOME INDIVIDUAL.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK IN PRACTICALITY? YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING AT THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, AND THE LETTER WAS I THINK IT WAS CONFUSING.

SO I VERIFIED WITH COUNTY STAFF THIS AFTERNOON AND THEY JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COULD BE PAID AS LONG AS THERE WAS AN ACCESS TO THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME RESIDENTS.

SO AND THAT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING, OR IS THAT IN WRITING SOMEWHERE? THAT'S WHAT THEY EXPLAINED TO ME ON THE TELEPHONE TODAY.

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THAT WAS REALLY FAST BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT THIS MORNING.

YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY NOT THE WHOLE LETTER I THINK FROM THE COUNTY, WE CAN AGREE IS IS VERY MUCH NOT WHAT WE AGREED TO ON MARCH 12TH.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY SEEN IS THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS, THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME, DO NOT HAVE TO SUCCUMB TO SERVICES.

THEY COULD DENY THEIR SERVICES.

AND SO IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR COMMUNITY TO SEE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE HELP THAT THEY COULD BE.

I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY THIS IS TAKING FOREVER, BUT I HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS LETTER.

I ALREADY ASKED THAT THE.

DIFFERENTIATE. OKAY.

WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT.

SORRY. MOVING ALONG.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE REQUESTS FOR MARCH 12TH WAS ENTERING THE RESIDENCE IN A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE THEN RATHER THAN A LOW LEVEL AND WORKING THEM UP LIKE A STEP PROGRAM, BUT ENTERING AT THE HIGHER LEVEL AND MOVING THEM DOWN.

AND OF COURSE, THIS LETTER FROM THE COUNTY DOES SAY THAT, THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF FUNDING.

SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO WORK THAT OUT? YEAH, THEY DID SAY THAT IN THEIR LETTER.

AND THEN TODAY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS VOTED FOR A PILOT PROJECT THAT SAYS SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

I KNOW THEY STILL HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE FUNDING FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED TODAY.

SO I THINK THAT IS STILL KIND OF IN QUESTION, BUT IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE WILL BE A SEVEN DAY A WEEK, YOU KNOW, CLINICAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SUPPORT ON SITE. SO THAT'S SO FAR WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WHEN THAT IT WILL OCCUR OR WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM FROM THE COUNTY.

BUT THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT WAS VOTED ON TODAY.

WELL THAT'S DEFINITELY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN MY OPINION.

ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE IN RELATIVE TO WINDSOR POINTE ASKED THAT WE HAVE ONGOING SECURITY REPORTING AND A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE DISCLOSURE BASICALLY MEASURED AND PUBLICLY REPORTED ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF INCIDENCES.

I FEEL LIKE THE CHIEF DOES A GREAT JOB OF REPORTING OUT WHAT TYPES OF INCIDENCES ARE OCCURRING THERE.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AGAIN, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A QUARTERLY UPDATE OF, OF SUCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED.

THAT KIND OF DATA SHOULD BE INCLUDED OF WHAT IS GOING ON AT AFFIRM, BECAUSE WE WANT AGAIN, I'VE SAID THIS OVER AND OVER.

WE WANT THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND WE WANT THEM TO GET THE CARE THAT THEY NEED.

BUT WE ALSO WANT COMMUNITY TO FEEL SAFE IN THEIR OWN HOMES, IN THE PARK AND IN THE LIBRARY AND IN THE SENIOR CENTER AND EVERYWHERE THAT SURROUNDS PINE PARK.

THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THE FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE CAN HAVE A SUPPORT PERSON.

PERHAPS IT'S SOMEONE THAT DOES DAILY LIVING SKILLS CARE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WHAT IS WHAT IS THE AFFIRMED OR [INAUDIBLE] COMPANIES PROCEDURE FOR QUALIFYING SOMEONE AS A SUPPORT PERSON? DO WE KNOW? YEAH.

SO THE IN-HOME SUPPORTIVE SERVICES WORKER WOULD GO THROUGH THE SAME BACKGROUND CHECK AS A TENANT, AND THEY HAVE TO SIGN THE SAME LEASE AGREEMENT AS A TENANT.

AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE IS ONE IN HOME SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AT WINDSOR POINTE.

THERE'S ONE TENANT THAT HAS SUPPORT SERVICE.

AN IN-HOME.

IN-HOME. THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS THAT I GUESS IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING FOR COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND IF SOMEONE'S THERE AND THEY STAY ONE NIGHT, THAT'S OKAY, BUT THEY CAN'T EXCEED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF NIGHTS UNTIL THEY HAVE TO BE EITHER ON THE LEASE OR BE DEEMED ONE OF THESE SUPPORT PEOPLE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST STUFF WE DON'T KNOW.

SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION WITH [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, THAT'S WHY THE THE GUEST CHECK IN AND CHECK OUT IS GOING TO BE SO IMPORTANT TO VERIFY THE FREQUENCY OF SOMEBODY COMING AND STAYING.

ARE THEY STAYING OVERNIGHT? YOU KNOW, HOW MANY TIMES, HOW OFTEN IS IMPORTANT TO, TO VERIFY IF THEY ARE CONSIDERED AN OCCUPANT AND REQUIRED TO BE ON THE LEASE AT THAT POINT? I APPRECIATE THAT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO YEARS INTO IT.

AND I JUST THINK WE'RE WE'RE THE WE'RE JUST BEHIND.

THE QUESTION THAT WE OFTEN GET ASKED IS HOW MANY VETERANS LIVE AT WINDSOR POINTE.

AND SO COULD YOU JUST GO OVER THAT? AND THEN THE STRUCTURE OF HOW PEOPLE GET PLACED IN THE VETERAN HOUSING.

SURE. OF COURSE. SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT METHODS FOR BEING ACCEPTED OR REFERRED TO WINDSOR POINTE.

SO FOR THE 24 NO PLACE LIKE HOME UNITS, THOSE RESIDENTS ARE REFERRED THROUGH THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S REGIONAL TASK FORCE ON HOMELESS.

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AND SO THOSE ARE FOLKS THAT THEY ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS OR AT RISK.

AND THEY ARE ALSO HAVE A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS.

SO THEY ARE CONSIDERED THEY WOULD BE CONFIRMED THROUGH THE COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TO HAVE A DIAGNOSIS OF A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS.

THEN THOSE WOULD BE REFERRED TO [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY WOULD DO THE BACKGROUND CHECK.

AND I WOULD SAY ON THE VETERANS STATUS FOR THOSE, IT IS STILL A PREFERENCE FOR THOSE 24 UNITS, NOT A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE BEEN REFERRED OR ACTUALLY HAVE ACCEPTED A UNIT THERE, BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER UNITS.

I GUESS THIS IS GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER UNITS WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT ARE A VETERAN ONLY, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM.

AND SO UNITS GENERALLY FOLKS WHO HAVE A VETERAN STATUS THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY ARE REFERRED TO A VETERAN ONLY UNIT BECAUSE OTHERWISE IF THAT IF THERE IS NOBODY TO PLACE IN THAT UNIT OR TO REFER TO THAT UNIT, THAT UNIT DOES GO EMPTY.

THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A PREFERENCE.

SO THAT'S ONE REASON WHY ON THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME SIDE, YOU'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF YOU'RE NOT SEEING VETERANS THERE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DISCUSSED THE REASON FOR THIS EXCLUSION OF VA INCOME IS THE INCOME REQUIREMENT FOR THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME UNITS IS EXTREMELY LOW AND WITH VA BENEFITS, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PENSION, DISABILITY, A VARIETY OF OTHER VA RESOURCES THEY MIGHT EXCEED THE INCOME REQUIREMENT AND BE DENIED.

SO THAT'S ON THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME SIDE.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER 24 UNITS THAT ARE SUPERVISED BY THE CITY'S REGULATORY AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS TAX CREDIT RULES, THOSE IT'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS FROM INDIVIDUALS.

AND THEN THERE IS A WAITING LIST.

SO FOLKS THAT ARE CARLSBAD AND VETERAN STATUS WOULD RECEIVE THE HIGHEST POINTS IN THAT PREFERENCE SYSTEM.

AND THEY WOULD MOVE TO THE TOP OF THE LIST.

AFTER THAT IT'S VETERAN STATUS AND THEN AFTER THAT IS A CARLSBAD AFFILIATION STATUS.

AND SO ORIGINALLY AT MOVE IN, THERE WERE 12 VETERANS THAT MOVED INTO THOSE 24 UNITS.

AND SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MOVE IN AND OUT.

AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME THERE ARE SIX.

OKAY. AND BUT THERE ARE ALSO SIX OTHER PEOPLE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE AT CAPACITY AT THE UNITS OR NO? THEY'RE SOMEBODY VACATED YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK.

SO THERE IS A VACANCY AND THEN SOMEBODY IS SCHEDULED TO MOVE OUT NEXT WEEK.

OKAY. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT THE APARTMENTS DEDICATED FOR NO PLACE LIKE HOME ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS, THERE ARE ADULTS WITH SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS, CHILDREN WITH SEVERE EMOTIONAL DISORDERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO REQUIRE OR ARE AT RISK OF REQUIRING ACUTE PSYCHIATRIC INPATIENT CARE, RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT, OR OUTPATIENT CRISIS INTERVENTION BECAUSE OF A MENTAL DISORDER WITH A SYMPTOM OF PSYCHOSIS, SUICIDALITY, VIOLENCE, HOMELESS, CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, OR AT RISK OF CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.

AND THE COUNTY IDENTIFIES THOSE FOLKS.

HAVE WE EVER EVEN HAD A LIKE A PARENT WITH A CHILD WITH A SEVERE EMOTIONAL DISORDER THERE, OR A FAMILY WITH THAT.

YES. OKAY.

THAT'S THE TYPE PEOPLE I THINK ACTUALLY WOULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM THAT SITUATION.

LIKE A LIKE THE WINDSOR POINTE FACILITY.

SO I MEAN, WE HAVE SERVICES, A LOT OF SERVICES, AND THEY ACTUALLY PROBABLY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM.

I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

I WILL HAVE COMMENTS AT THE END.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE COUNCIL.

MISS ACOSTA, ANY QUESTIONS? YES. THANK YOU.

OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TITLE SLIDE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE, AND I KNOW THAT THE MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE WAS DISCUSSED OVER SINCE THE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND TODAY.

BUT TODAY WE HAD ACTIONS BY THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.

AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD CLARIFY IF ANYTHING IN HERE WOULD BE CHANGED BY THE ACTIONS FROM THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO SPECIFICALLY IN THIS MANAGEMENT PLAN LANGUAGE.

WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE CHANGED FOR CONSIDERATION SO, LIKE THE ACTUAL AMENDMENTS, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE ADDED IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE ALREADY PUT, WAS THE MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID TRAINING THAT THE COUNTY WILL BE PROVIDING.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ADDITION.

OKAY. AND I THOUGHT THAT POSSIBLY, MAYBE THE TIME OF THE SECURITY GUARD, YOU KNOW, MORE MORE TIME FROM THE SECURITY

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BUT MAYBE I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION ON THE FLY, SINCE THAT JUST HAPPENED TODAY, AND WE WERE PREPARING FOR TODAY'S COUNCIL MEETING, SO MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN GET THOSE ANSWERS LATER AS WELL. I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? OKAY. ON THE GUEST POLICY I KNOW THAT WE JUST HAD A LITTLE BIT OF QUESTIONING ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M JUST STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND I HAD UNDERSTOOD THAT GUESTS WERE SOMETIMES NEEDED AS SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT NOW I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT MAYBE GUESTS ARE DIFFERENT FROM IN-HOME SUPPORT SERVICES.

CAN YOU CLARIFY ARE THEY DIFFERENT THINGS? IS ONE LIKE A SOMEBODY WHO HAS TO BE THERE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME AND HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THAT IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN? OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH.

I'M I'D HAVE TO REVIEW THE MANAGEMENT PLAN TO SEE WHICH SECTION IT FALLS UNDER, BUT AN IN-HOME SUPPORTIVE SERVICES WORKER WOULD BE WHO IS REQUIRED TO BE THERE, SAY, OVERNIGHT AND ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A PART OF THE THE LEASE.

SO THEY ARE NOT THE THE ACTUAL PARTY TO THE LEASE.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THAT RESIDENT WERE TO MOVE OUT, THAT IN-HOME SUPPORTIVE SERVICE WORKER ISN'T ENTITLED TO STAY IN THAT UNIT.

SO THEY ARE TIED TO THAT RESIDENT.

THEY DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME BACKGROUND CHECK AND SIGN THE SAME AGREEMENT AS THE LEASE HOLDER, BUT THEY ARE NOT THE LEASE HOLDER.

THEY ARE A PARTY TO THE LEASE.

OKAY. IN THE PART THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN 19 G GUEST POLICY AND PROCEDURES, WHICH IS OH GOSH PAGE 25 OF 48 FROM THIS I CAN'T, I CAN'T FIND THE ACTUAL PAGE NUMBER IN THE ENTIRE PACKET.

17 YEAH. OKAY.

NUMBER 17 IN IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN.

I WAS JUST KIND OF READING IT.

IT SEEMS PRETTY CONFUSING.

LIKE, I THINK IT COULD BE CLARIFIED WHERE IT'S, FOR EXAMPLE, RESIDENTS WHO GIVE ACCESS TO KEYS OR FOBS TO NON RESIDENTS OF WINDSOR POINTE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.

I MEAN, WHY NOT JUST SAY YOU KNOW GIVING KEYS OR FOBS TO NONRESIDENTS IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.

OR ONLY RESIDENTS MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, KEYS OR FOBS.

SO I WAS JUST IT JUST SEEMED INTERESTING THAT IT WAS SO VAGUE.

AND THEN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WILL ENFORCE THE GUEST POLICY USING VARIOUS SECURITY STRATEGIES TO REDUCE NONCOMPLIANCE AND PROMOTE COMMUNITY SAFETY.

I WAS KIND OF WONDERING, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? VARIOUS SECURITY STRATEGIES, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE KIND OF VAGUE.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, AND I'M HOPING THAT THEY HAVE A REAL PLAN FOR WHEN THERE ARE VISITORS WHO VIOLATE THE RULES, WHO ARE GIVEN OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF RESIDENTS GIVE AWAY THE KEY FOB, LIKE, WHAT IS WHAT DO THEY DO? LIKE WHAT IS THERE A PENALTY FOR THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S PROHIBITED.

BUT WHAT IS WHAT IS THE PENALTY FOR THAT? AND THEN WHAT IF GUESTS DO ACT UP OR, YOU KNOW, BEHAVE BADLY THERE.

WHAT IS THE PENALTY FOR THAT? SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE IT COULD BE ENHANCED A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER PART WHERE IT TALKED ABOUT OH GOSH.

IT GOES BACK TO THE OTHER HIGHLIGHTED SECTION.

SECURITY, THIS IS PAGE 22 OF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN UNDER SECURITY, WHERE THERE WAS A PIECE OF A BULLET POINT THAT WAS NOT HIGHLIGHTED.

AND IT SAYS PROVIDE SECURITY MEASURES TO PREVENT UNLAWFUL ENTRY INTO THE PREMISES, INCLUDING DEADBOLT LOCKS ON EVERY UNIT ENTRY DOOR AND CONTROLLED ACCESS AT BUILDING ENTRANCES. AND THIS WAS AN ISSUE I WAS INTERESTED IN THE LAST MEETING AND AM STILL, WHICH IS THE CONTROLLED ACCESS AT BUILDING ENTRANCES.

I THINK THAT WAS PREEXISTING LANGUAGE, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED.

THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED. RIGHT.

SO I DO THINK THAT MAYBE THAT CAN BE POINTED OUT AND EXPANDED UPON, LIKE, WHAT IS THAT CONTROLLED ACCESS AT BUILDING ENTRANCES.

AND AND I GATHER, MISS MILLS, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO, LIKE, RECONFIGURE.

DO YOU DO YOU KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, MORE INFORMATION OR IF THAT WILL BE DONE AT OUR NEXT IN FOUR MONTHS WHEN WHEN WE COME BACK TO DISCUSS THIS AGAIN? WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE MORE INFORMATION.

WE DO HAVE TO EXPLORE.

LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME LIKE CHANGE THE LOBBY TO HAVE AN OFFICE OR SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO VERIFY DOES IT NEED BUILDING PERMITS? DO WE NEED BUILDING PLANS.

SO WE DO NEED TO KIND OF EXPLORE LIKE WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT.

AND THEN THEY ARE HAVE BEEN EXPLORING ALREADY THE PROCUREMENT.

THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR A VENDOR FOR SOME TYPE OF A LIKE A VIRTUAL SYSTEM.

OKAY, SO MY LAST QUESTION IS KIND OF A BIG PICTURE QUESTION.

TONIGHT WE'RE VOTING ON THIS MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE.

WE STILL WANT TO SEE MORE.

AND WE KNOW THAT SOME THINGS ARE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

BUT TONIGHT, LIKE AFTER TONIGHT, ARE THEY GOING TO BE DOING THESE THINGS? DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS SO THAT THEY CAN START DOING THESE THINGS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A REPORT BACK?

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I MEAN, THEY ARE ALREADY IN PROCESS AND WORKING ON THESE MATTERS.

THIS WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, WE COULD SHOW, YOU KNOW, IN GOOD FAITH THAT THESE HAVE BEEN PUT IN WRITING IN BLACK AND WHITE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT.

GREAT. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF MOVING PIECES, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS ARE BEING DONE ASAP.

THANK YOU.

MRS. BHAT-PATEL.

YES. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANKS TO THE SPEAKERS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AS WELL.

A COUPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL TRY TO MOVE THROUGH THEM QUICKLY.

SO IN TERMS OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SO FAR, I KNOW I ASKED THIS DURING BRIEFING.

I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT OTHER PARAMETERS THE TWO OF YOU BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH AFTER WE'VE ADOPTED THESE ONES CURRENTLY.

SURE. YES. SO I DO THINK THAT IT'S I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE IN SECURITY FROM ONE GUARD BEING SHARED BETWEEN THE TWO FACILITIES TO TWO.

BUT I DO STRONGLY FEEL THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A 24/7 DEDICATED PRESENCE AT BOTH LOCATIONS TO, TO MONITOR THE ACTIVITIES.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S RESEARCH BEING DONE ON HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

ONE THING THAT I WOULD WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON IS THAT WHOEVER IS BEING ASKED TO FILL THAT ROLE ISN'T FILLING 3 OR 4 ROLES AT THE FACILITY OR LOCATION BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED FOR DEDICATED ATTENTION IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THE OF THE PREMISES.

AND WHEN YOU SAY THAT, CHIEF, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN.

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

BUT WHEN YOU SAY THAT PERSON IS JUST SOLELY DEDICATED AND NOT FULFILLING MULTIPLE ROLES.

CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER? SO I WOULDN'T WANT THAT PERSON THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED TO BE THE ENGAGED PRESENCE TO ALSO BE IN UNITS PROVIDING BEHAVIORAL EVIDENCE OF SOME SORT, THOSE WOULDN'T BE COMPATIBLE.

IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY WHO'S DEDICATED TO MANAGING AND MONITORING THE, THE PREMISES AND ENFORCING THE GUEST POLICY MAKING CONTACT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT OR FIRE SERVICE IF THEY SHOW UP ON SCENE TO, TO CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS.

THOSE TYPE OF THAT TYPE OF PRESENCE IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.

AND I JUST WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING DEAD THEY'RE NOT BEING ASSIGNED OTHER DUTIES THAT WOULD TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THAT. GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO 12 HOURS, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE INDICATED THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE 24 HOUR PRESENCE.

FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD, IS THERE A TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH US GETTING TO THAT POINT OF 24 HOURS? I THINK THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS BEEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE APPROVALS FROM THE COUNTY TODAY REGARDING THE THE STAFFING STUDY TO TO DETERMINE HOW TO DO THAT, I THINK IS CRITICAL.

SO I THINK BY AUGUST, WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE A BETTER IDEA.

I MEAN, I THINK THE COUNTIES, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO KNOW SOMETHING BY 90 DAYS AND THEN ANOTHER THING WAS SIX MONTHS.

SO AS LONG AS WE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH ALL THE PARTIES AND SEE IN COLLABORATION, LIKE WHAT CAN BE DONE, I THINK I THINK IT WILL BE BY THE AUGUST DATE.

I THINK WE WILL KNOW MORE FOR SURE.

OKAY. AND LET'S SEE, I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO CLARIFY AGAIN ONE MORE TIME WHAT THE COUNTY HAS SAID THAT THEY ARE GOING TO STEP UP TO DO, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR.

AND I KNOW THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT'S DEFINITELY ON THE RECORD.

SURE. AND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO, LIKE, JUST PULL UP SOME OF THESE JUST TO HELP HERE.

SO THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT AGENDA REPORTS TODAY AT THE COUNTY.

SO ONE WAS FROM SUPERVISOR DESMOND'S OFFICE.

AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT ONE FIRST.

SO THAT INCLUDES A PILOT PROGRAM TO INCREASE SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS.

IN NO PLACE LIKE HOME UNITS IN NORTH COUNTY TO INCLUDE ENHANCED CLINICAL SUPPORT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

THE NEXT ITEM IN THAT BOARD REPORT IS TO ENSURE THAT ALL PERSONNEL ON SITE RECEIVE MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID TRAINING AND BE TRAINED ON HOW TO REFER PEOPLE TO 24/7 BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS RESPONSE RESOURCES.

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AND THAT AN ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT STAFFING NEEDS TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS AT LEAST ONE ONE MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID TRAINED STAFF ON SITE 24/7.

SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE SECURITY GUARDS, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, AND SERVICE PROVIDERS.

REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD WITHIN 90 DAYS WITH AN UPDATE OF THE PLANS OF THE PLANS FOR THESE FOUR PROJECTS, AND REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD WITHIN SIX MONTHS WITH AN UPDATE ON PROGRESS, OUTCOMES AND A PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THESE CHANGES COUNTYWIDE.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST BOARD LETTER.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS FROM SUPERVISOR LAWSON REMER'S OFFICE.

AND THAT WAS APPROVED AS WELL.

THAT'S TO ANALYZE ALL OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO MAXIMIZE THE LEVEL OF SERVICES AND HOURS OF ON SITE CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICE AND REFERRALS TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES.

AND THE SECOND ITEM WAS TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO UTILIZE THE OPERATING RESERVE FUNDS, TO ADD SUPPLEMENTAL SECURITY PERSONNEL, AND TO ADVOCATE THROUGH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO MAXIMIZE FUNDING FLEXIBILITY FOR THOSE OPERATING RESERVES.

MAY I INTERRUPT? I'M A LITTLE NEGLIGENT.

I'VE MADE COUNCIL SIT UP HERE FOR TWO SOLID HOURS, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK, AND WE'LL RECONVENE AT FIVE MINUTES AFTER 7:00, AND THEN WE'LL RESUME WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

CALLING THE MEETING BACK INTO SESSION.

MISS BHAT-PATEL, YOU WERE ASKING SOME QUESTIONS.

YES. GIVE ME A MOMENT TO GET THERE.

OKAY. YEAH.

SO A COUPLE COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS HERE.

I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION AROUND THE COMMUNITY MEETING, AND I BELIEVE I JUST WANTED TO ASK I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD THOSE BEFORE.

AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED? SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY ONE OF THE SPEAKERS HAD BROUGHT THAT UP.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T. I DON'T RECALL THAT.

OH, JUST HAVING A COMMUNITY MEETING AROUND YEAH. YEAH, LIKE, IF WE'VE HAD THAT PRIOR AND THEN I KNOW THEY HAD ASKED IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO, SO? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE HAS BEEN ONE ON THIS.

I WAS NOT HERE WHEN IT WAS BEING CONSIDERED, SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

THE AND THEN REGARDING NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVEMENT, DID YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH? ONE OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO CREATE IN MY MEMO, I BELIEVE, OR MY LETTER I BELIEVE.

I REFERRED TO IT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM.

THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS, I THINK IT'S BETTER REFLECTED AS MORE OF A WHAT I'M SEEKING IS A PROGRAM TO ENHANCE THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND WINDSOR POINTE.

A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM IS MORE TOWARDS GEARING PEOPLE TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO CALL THE POLICE IF THEY SEE SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS.

WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE'RE NOT HAVING A RELUCTANCE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT WHAT I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS WE NEED A BETTER LINE OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE THE PEOPLE OPERATING WINDSOR POINTE AND THE COMMUNITY THAT'S NEARBY, THAT'S EXPERIENCING WINDSOR POINTE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE LINES OF COMMUNICATION ARE OPEN.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE ASKED FOR THEM TO ENHANCE.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. GREAT.

THANK YOU. ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS AROUND, AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IS I KNOW I'VE DEFINITELY BEEN ASKED AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WERE ASKED A COUPLE TIMES HERE WHO IS LIVING AT THE FACILITY, AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF IT'S A ARE WE EVEN ALLOWED TO GIVE OUT THAT INFORMATION? WELL, I'M GOING TO STEP BACK AND SAY I'M NOT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE CAN NECESSARILY REQUIRE REQUIRE IT TO EVEN BE PROVIDED TO US, BUT LET'S SAY WE CAN REQUIRE IT TO BE PROVIDED TO US.

IT IS DOUBTFUL THAT THAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC RECORD.

WE DO NOT TYPICALLY TURN OVER PRIVATE INFORMATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE ALL OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED.

THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

[02:00:02]

OH, HOW MANY EVICTIONS DO WE HAVE IN PROGRESS? AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO EVICT SOMEBODY GENERALLY? THERE ARE THREE IN PROGRESS PROCESS RIGHT NOW, AND IT CAN TAKE 6 TO 8 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON THE COURTS. SO. OKAY.

AND YOU GAVE US SOME GOOD NEWS ABOUT CONGRESSMAN LEVIN ADDRESSING THE VET INCOME LIMITS.

IF HE IS SUCCESSFUL, HOW LONG BEFORE WE ACTUALLY SEE THAT IN EFFECT AT WINDSOR POINTE? SO THAT HE HE'S JUST TALKING ABOUT CHANGES AT HUD, WHICH IS A FEDERAL FUNDING PROGRAM.

SO WINDSOR POINTE IS NOT FUNDED WITH HUD FUNDS.

SO IT ACTUALLY WOULDN'T APPLY TO WINDSOR POINTE.

SO WE NEED ADVOCACY AT THE STATE LEVEL TO STATE HCD.

SO IT'S GREAT THAT HE'S DOING THAT AND WE APPLAUD THAT AND WE SUPPORT THAT.

THAT WOULD BE FOR OTHER PROJECTS COULD HELP OTHER PROJECTS AND OTHER VETS, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WE NEED ADVOCACY AT THE STATE LEVEL.

SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, IT WAS GOOD NEWS.

IT WAS GOOD NEWS, BUT NOT FOR WINDSOR POINTE, CORRECT? I'M GLAD I CLARIFIED THAT.

THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

CLOSING REMARKS, MISS LUNA.

AS YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SUPPORT THE WORK PROGRAM AS PROPOSED ORIGINALLY BECAUSE I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE DO NEED A 24/7 PRESENCE THERE WITH RESPECT TO BOTH LOCATIONS.

AND ALSO, WE DO NOT HAVE IN WRITING A PROGRAM WHERE THE COMMUNITY WOULD MEET WITH WINDSOR POINTE.

YES. I'M GETTING VERBAL CONFIRMATION THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IT, BUT I THINK ACCOUNTABILITY HAS BEEN QUESTIONED ON THIS PROJECT FROM DAY ONE.

SO UNLESS IT'S IN WRITING, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH JUST PEOPLE ARTICULATING THIS.

SO I'VE ALWAYS FELT STRONGLY THAT WE DO NEED THE 24/7 PRESENCE AND SINCE IT'S NOT IN THIS WORK PROGRAM, UNFORTUNATELY I PROBABLY COULD NOT SUPPORT IT.

ADDITIONALLY WHAT THE COUNTY DID I THINK IS IS STELLAR.

HOWEVER, ONCE AGAIN, IF A SUMMARY COULD BE AFFORDED TO US IN A CHART SO THAT WE COULD KEEP PROGRESS OF IT ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE SUPERVISORS LETTERS HERE.

MANDY, I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB ON ARTICULATING IT.

I THINK OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.

HOWEVER JUST AS IF I'M A CITIZEN SITTING OUT THERE, I'M HEARING A PIECE HERE AND A PIECE HERE AND A PIECE HERE, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO CONSOLIDATE ALL THAT WITH POSSIBLY A TIMELINE AS AN APPENDIX SO THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT IS IN FISCAL YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR, SOME OF IT IS IN NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ON THE TIMELINE.

IT COULD BE UNKNOWN IN PROGRESS, TBD, JUST SO THAT WE CAN KEEP AN ACCOUNTING OF THOSE FUNDS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT THE COUNTY CAN WE CAN AVAIL OURSELVES OF I DON'T KNOW.

IS IT IN SIX MONTHS? IT IS IN NINE MONTHS.

CAN WE USE IT FOR THAT 24/7 SECURITY PRESENCE? AND IT'S JUST MORE ONGOING AND IT'S MORE A MONITORING AND I'M NOT I CAN'T PUT ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES TOGETHER.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S IN THREE DIFFERENT, THREE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND IT'S CONFUSING IF IT'S CONFUSING TO ME.

AND WE WORK WITH THIS I'M SURE OTHERS IT'S CONFUSING TOO.

SO I WOULD HAVE THAT JUST THOSE TYPE OF REQUESTS.

BUT I DON'T HAVE YOU KNOW, A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME.

I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU.

MISS BURKHOLDER. THANK YOU MAYOR.

WE WERE TOLD TWO YEARS AGO THAT SECURITY MEASURES WOULD BE IN PLACE AT WINDSOR POINTE.

WE WERE TOLD ON MARCH 12TH THAT SECURITY MEASURES WOULD BE IN PLACE IMMEDIATELY.

IT TOOK ALL OF US COMMUNITY COUNCIL WORKING TOGETHER TO AFFECT ANY TYPE OF CHANGE AT WINDSOR POINTE.

AND NOW THE COUNTY WANTS TO WAIT 90 DAYS TO UPDATE US.

WE'RE NOT OKAY WITH THAT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE AUGUST DATE FOR YOU TO RETURN FOR AN UPDATE WITH US AND MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO BRING BACK AN UPDATE LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA WAS REFERENCING.

IT COULD BE A TIMELINE, IT COULD BE A CHART, IT COULD BE ANYTHING THAT TELLS US THE PROGRESS OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE COUNTY AND WINDSOR POINTE, SO THAT WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

THANK YOU. MRS. ACOSTA. I MADE A MOTION.

DO WE WANT? YES.

THAT WE KEEP THE AUGUST DATE BASICALLY WHAT'S IN THIS REPORT AND THAT WE ASK STAFF TO BRING BACK IN 60 DAYS A PROGRESS REPORT, ESSENTIALLY EXPLAINING WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE COUNTY AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH HOLDING ON TO THAT? YES. SO WE HEAR ALL OF US SO WE CAN MAKE ONE BIG MOTION WITH ALL OF OUR IDEAS.

[02:05:04]

GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK AND THE PRESENTATION TODAY.

WE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE TRACKS BECAUSE WE ALLUDED TO THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE HAD THIS MORNING AND THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT MET DURING THE DAY AND THIS MEETING THAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT.

SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW MOVING PIECES, AS I HAD SAID EARLIER, AND I THINK WE DO NEED TO BRING THEM TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, THAT WE'RE ALL FOCUSED ON HAVING A SUCCESSFUL AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY HERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE SECURITY CONCERNS AND ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AND ARE TALKING ABOUT. SO I AM SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING THE PLAN BROUGHT BACK WITH MORE STRUCTURE AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO TIGHTEN THE LANGUAGE, EVEN IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, LIKE I POINTED OUT EARLIER, THERE WERE SOME AREAS WHERE I FELT LIKE THE LANGUAGE WAS PRETTY LOOSE AND KIND OF DIDN'T MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE.

I THINK THAT WE COULD WE COULD STILL WORK ON TIGHTENING UP THAT LANGUAGE AND HAVING MORE ARTICULATION AROUND THE SECURITY PROCEDURES AND THE GUEST POLICIES.

THANK YOU.

MRS BHAT-PATEL.

YES. THANK YOU AND THANKS AGAIN FOR THE WORK AND THE PRESENTATION.

I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES.

OF COURSE WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHIP AWAY A BIT, BUT IT HAS TAKEN QUITE SOME TIME TO GET THERE.

AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO GET US THERE, I DO THINK THAT WHAT WE CAN.

WHAT MORE WE NEED TO DO DEFINITELY NEEDS TO HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

SO I DO HOPE THAT WE'LL SEE MORE PROGRESS.

I DO THINK SIMILARLY HAVING SOMETHING THAT SHOWS US THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THOSE, YOU KNOW, MILESTONES WILL BE MET IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY GETTING SOME OF THOSE THINGS ON THE GROUND WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL, JUST SO THAT FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE.

AND SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IS THE IS IMPORTANT.

AND I KNOW THEY LIKE YOU ARE AGAIN, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE MEETING WITH THEM REGULARLY.

I THINK JUST FROM THEIR FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF YOU KNOW FROM HOUSING THE COUNTY, IF WE CAN START TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE THEY AS TO WHAT THEY'LL BE DOING AND OFFERING TO US, I THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

SO I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA, YOU KNOW THE 24 HOUR AND I KNOW CHIEF YOU MENTIONED THIS TOO THE 24 HOUR SECURITY IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED AND MOVED ON AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

THANKS. IT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, BUT I'M GOING TO GRANDSTAND ON IT FOR JUST A MOMENT.

WE HAVE A POLICE CHIEF WHO SPENT 29 YEARS BEING A COP.

HE STARTED AS A STREET COP.

HE'S ENDED AS A POLICE CHIEF, AND HE'S RECOMMENDING 24 HOUR SECURITY THERE.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GIVE THAT A SECOND THOUGHT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HIRED HIM TO DO.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRUST HIM TO DO.

HE'S OUR EXPERT ON SECURITY, SO I THINK THAT WILL BE ONE THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE IDEA IF THIS COUNTY ISN'T GOING TO PAY FOR IT OR IF THE FUNDS AREN'T THERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

I'D LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT MELANIE'S GOING TO BRING UP IN JUST A MOMENT IN HER MOTION.

I'D LIKE MAYBE AN ESTIMATE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DOWN TO THE PENNY.

HOW MUCH MONEY WORTH OF MANPOWER IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE WE SPENT AT WINDSOR POINTE AND INCLUDING MAYBE HOURS THAT THOSE COPS COULD HAVE BEEN BREAKING UP A FIGHT OR INTERVENING ON A DRUNK DRIVER OR SOMETHING ELSE BETTER THAN JUST SPENDING THEIR HOURS AT WINDSOR POINTE.

AND THEN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE A LITTLE BIT AS AMMUNITION WHEN WE GO BACK BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

HOPEFULLY THEY'LL THEY'LL RELEASE THE FUNDS SOON AND WE CAN GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF.

MELANIE OR MISS BURKHOLDER, WOULD YOU MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE? SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE THE AMENDED THE UPDATE ON THE AMENDED WINDSOR POINTE MANAGEMENT PLAN TO REFLECT ENHANCED SECURITY MEASURES AND REQUEST THAT STAFF BRING BACK A PROGRESS REPORT IN 60 DAYS.

NO, IT WAS AUGUST, WASN'T IT? AUGUST IS STILL ON THE ON THE BOOKS.

AUGUST IS NOT CHANGING.

I'M ASKING FOR A PROGRESS REPORT IN 60 DAYS, RELATIVE TO THE COUNTY'S PROGRESS IN ACHIEVING OUR OBJECTIVES THAT WE'VE SET OUT.

SECOND. CLARIFICATION.

I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S DOABLE.

I'M CHECKING IT'S IT'S COUNCIL'S CALL.

SO IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO THAT AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MONTH COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER UPDATE PROVIDING THE SAME INFORMATION, WE CAN DO BOTH.

IT WILL BE DIFFERENT INFORMATION CITY MANAGER, BECAUSE I'M REQUESTING LIKE A TIMELINE OF THE PROGRESS ON THE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE, THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LAID OUT AND THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY HAS AGREED TO DO AS OF TODAY.

SO WHAT THE OBJECTIVE IS TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN TOLD THINGS AND FINALLY NOW WE MAY WE ARE MAKING

[02:10:01]

COUNCIL I MY APOLOGIES IF I MISSTATED.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT WE'RE WE'LL BE BACK.

I THINK WITHIN 90 DAYS.

SO IT WOULD BE 60, AND THEN WE'D COME BACK 30 DAYS THEREAFTER.

OKAY. WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO JUST DOING IT IN 90 DAYS AND LETTING STAFF PUT TOGETHER THE ENTIRE THE ONLY REPORT, THE ONLY REASON I'M REQUESTING 60 IS BECAUSE 90 DAYS IS WHAT THE COUNTY IS SAYING.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A PROGRESS REPORT SO THAT IF WE NEED TO PRESSURE IN A CERTAIN AREA OR IF WE NEED TO PARTNER IN A CERTAIN AREA, WE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND BE ABLE TO UTILIZE OUR OUR ABILITIES FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THEIR 90 DAY UPDATE.

THAT WAS MY LOGIC.

IS THAT CLEAR TO STAFF AND THAT'S DOABLE.

YEAH, I MEAN I WITHIN THE 60 DAYS AS, AS THE COUNCILWOMAN MENTIONED, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH WE WILL KNOW FROM THE COUNTY WITHIN 60 DAYS, BUT WE WILL REPORT OUT ON THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

AS YOU KNOW, I SAID I WOULD OBJECT TO THIS MANAGEMENT PLAN, BUT IF YOU ARE, IF WE CAN INCORPORATE YOUR RECOMMENDATION SOMEHOW AS TO WHAT THE COST WOULD BE WITH THE 24/7 SECURITY, I COULD THEN SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I SEE I SEE A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON IT? DID YOU SECOND? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION IS CLEAR, MAYOR, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO WRITE IT DOWN AS COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER WAS SPEAKING 60 DAY REPORT BACK WITH TIMELINES ON COUNTY PROGRESS.

AND THIS IS THE PART WHERE I WASN'T SURE OF YOU WERE ALSO INCORPORATING COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA'S REQUEST FOR FURTHER MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATES.

I THINK THAT COULD WAIT UNTIL AUGUST, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE MORE LABOR INTENSIVE FOR STAFF.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET AN ESTABLISHED TIMELINE ON WHAT HAS BEEN PASSED BY THE COUNTY AND THIS COUNCIL AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF EACH OF THOSE ITEMS. I MEAN, A BAR GRAPH OR A CHART, IT COULD BE WHATEVER.

WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW THE DATE THAT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETE OR WE PROJECT, THIS IS GOING TO BE COMPLETE IN TWO MORE MONTHS OR IN FISCAL YEAR 24-25, WHATEVER THAT IS.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE MOTION DID NOT INCLUDE FURTHER MANAGEMENT PLAN CHANGES, BUT IT DID INCORPORATE COUNCIL SORRY, MAYOR BLACKBURN'S REQUEST THAT WE GIVE FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON HOW MUCH IT'S COSTING FOR THE POLICE, CALLS FOR SERVICES.

I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT TO WAIT UNTIL AUGUST.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE ONLY THING REALLY FOR THE MOTION IS THE 60 DAY PROGRESS REPORT ON THE FOR THE COUNTY'S.

OKAY, I THINK SO.

THANK YOU. AND I LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE IT WILL LET US KNOW WHERE MAYBE WE NEED TO START EXERCISING SOME POLITICAL PRESSURE.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THAT WAS A LONG ONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER IN 60 DAYS.

WE'LL END THE NIGHT WITH YOU, CAROLYN.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

MISS BURKHOLDER, I WAS JUST GOING TO REPORT OUT THAT AT SANDAG ON FRIDAY WILL BE CONSIDERING THREE OPTIONS FOR THE NEXT CEO.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN US, IT STARTS AT 9 A.M..

MRS. ACOSTA, THANK YOU.

THIS MORNING, AS I MENTIONED, THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MET HERE IN COUNCIL IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AND DISCUSSED NOT JUST THE ADVOCACY ASPECT OF WINDSOR POINTE, BUT ALSO LEGISLATION THAT WE WANTED TO POSITION ON.

AND WE DO HAVE AN ADVOCACY TRIP COMING UP WITH THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES NEXT WEEK.

SO THAT WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT MAYOR, WITH HCD, WE ARE SCHEDULING THAT MEETING NOW WITH OUR STAFF AND ALSO WITH SOME OF OUR LEGISLATORS ON RELEVANT BILLS.

WE YESTERDAY HAD A MEETING WITH THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES SAN DIEGO COUNTY DIVISION AND TALKED ABOUT THE HOT BILLS FOR ALL CITIES IN THE STATE.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AT THE STATE.

THANK YOU.

MRS. BHAT-PATEL.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA ALREADY REPORTED OUT ON LEAGUE OF CITIES, SO WE HAD THAT YESTERDAY.

THIS COMING WEEK, I ALSO HAVE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORTATION, INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES COMMITTEE MEETING AND THEN EARLY NEXT WEEK OH, SORRY.

LATER NEXT WEEK I HAVE NCTS.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT IF FOR THOSE THAT WERE ON SPRING BREAK OR ARE ON SPRING BREAK, I HOPE YOU'RE ENJOYING YOUR TIME.

AND ON THURSDAY, APRIL 11TH, 2024, BETWEEN 2:00 AND 4:00 PM, CITY OF CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT PROMOTIONS AND CHIEF WILLIAM'S RETIREMENT CEREMONY WILL BE TAKING PLACE AT THE SAFETY TRAINING CENTER, 5750 ORION STREET, CARLSBAD.

CITY MANAGER

[02:15:01]

THANK YOU, CITY CLERK WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.