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HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL.
PRESENT. ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
[ANNOUNCEMENT OF CONCURRENT MEETINGS]
I HAVE TO READ THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT.CITY COUNCIL IS SERVING AS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL, THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE PUBLIC FINANCING AUTHORITY, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, AND THE CITY COUNCIL AS SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER 11.
WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? READY. BEGIN.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[PRESENTATIONS]
NEXT IS PRESENTATIONS.I INVITE MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL TO PRESENT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
SURE. THANK YOU AND WELCOME, THIRD GRADERS.
CONGRATULATIONS. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT I THINK THE ART CONTEST, I WAS JUST ASKING OUR TEAM AND IT STARTED BACK IN THE MID 90S, WHICH IS WHEN I WAS IN THE THIRD GRADE. I DID NOT GET TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COMPETITION, BUT IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE THAT THIS TRADITION HAS BEEN STARTED AND HAS BEEN KEPT, AND IT'S ALWAYS AMAZING TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF TALENT THAT YOU ALL BRING TO THE TABLE AND THE WORKS OF ART THAT YOU CREATE.
SO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THIS TRADITION AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ OUR PROCLAMATION.
AND THEN I'D LOVE TO INVITE MISTER JOHN MAY AND MISS JAMIE JACOBS TO THE PODIUM TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
SO WHEREAS HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR MANAGING GROWTH AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, REVITALIZING NEIGHBORHOODS, FOSTERING LOCAL PRIDE, PROMOTING TOURISM AND MAINTAINING COMMUNITY CHARACTER WHILE ENHANCING LIVABILITY.
AND WHEREAS IT IS IMPORTANT TO CELEBRATE THE ROLE OF HISTORY IN OUR LIVES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS AND HELPING TO PRESERVE THE TANGIBLE ASPECTS OF THE HERITAGE THAT HAS SHAPED US AS PEOPLE.
AND WHEREAS PEOPLE SAVING PLACES IS A THEME FOR NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO CELEBRATE THE PLACES THAT ARE MEANINGFUL TO THEM AND THEIR COMMUNITIES. THEREFORE, I, MAYOR PRO TEM, BHAT-PATEL, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, PROCLAIM JUNE 2024 AS CARLSBAD HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH.
AND WITH THAT, I'D LOVE TO INVITE MR. JOHN MAY AND MISS JAMIE JACOBS, AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY, MR. MAYOR, I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE A HISTORY BECAUSE YOU WERE MY STATS TEACHER, SO I JUST HAD TO GIVE HIM A SHOUT OUT TO.
YEAH. MR. MAYOR AND PRIYA AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH.
THIS SHOWS A COMMITMENT BY THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO PRESERVE AND TO HONOR OUR PAST AND TO EDUCATE CITIZENS ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND THE EVENTS OF OUR PAST, WHICH HAVE HELPED TO SHAPE THE LANDSCAPE AND THE CULTURE OF OUR CITY TODAY.
SO WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
ONE OF THE WAYS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION SUPPORTS THIS EDUCATIONAL EFFORT IS BY SPONSORING THE ANNUAL THIRD GRADE HISTORIC ART CONTEST. COMMISSIONER JAMIE JACOBS WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE FEW DETAILS ON THAT AND INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME AMAZING YOUNG ARTISTS.
HI. SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO JOHN AND I ARE ARE WE READY TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO.
IT'S AN ART CONTEST FOR THE THIRD GRADE STUDENTS IN CARLSBAD.
AND THIS CONTEST IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A CREATIVE EMPHASIS ON THE STUDY OF LOCAL HISTORY, WHICH IS PART OF THE CALIFORNIA STATEWIDE EDUCATION CURRICULUM FOR ALL THIRD GRADE STUDENTS.
OF 18 STUDENTS HERE THIS EVENING.
AND I'M EXCITED THAT OUR CHAIRPERSON, CHAD MAJOR, WAS ALSO ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT.
SO WE'VE GOT THREE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.
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ALL RIGHT, SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THEM AND AWARD THEIR CERTIFICATES.PRESENTING THE CERTIFICATES IS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEMBER, JOHN MAY AND CHAD MAJOR.
ALL RIGHT, I'LL ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS FROM EACH SCHOOL, AND THEN THE STUDENTS WILL COME AND SHAKE HANDS WITH COMMISSIONER MAY AND CHAIRPERSON MAJOR AND RECEIVE THEIR CERTIFICATES AND AWARDS. STUDENTS, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THAT YOU ALSO STAY UP FRONT, AFTER ALL, UNTIL ALL NAMES HAVE BEEN CALLED, SO THAT WE CAN GET A PHOTO WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND THEN AFTERWARDS WE'LL CONTINUE OUTSIDE AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ALL JOIN US FOR A BRIEF RECEPTION ON THE EAST LAWN AND RECEIVE YOUR ART KIT THAT EACH OF THE WINNERS ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.
ALL RIGHT, SO FIRST FROM AVIARA OAKS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THEY'RE BOTH STUDENTS OF TEACHER JULIE ROZANSKY.
THOMAS'S TEACHER IS ERICA HORNER, NOW FROM CALAVERA HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
EXCUSE ME. CALAVERA HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BEN NOCERA.
JOE MOODLEY, AND PJ PABLICO. THEY ARE ALL STUDENTS OF TEACHER MINDY JONES.
NOW FROM KELLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
HIS TEACHER IS NATASHA PANTIC.
PIPER WILLIAMS. THEIR TEACHER IS CINDY CEDARFERM, NOW FROM MAGNOLIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND NOW FROM PACIFIC RIM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
JOHN, BELISLE, KENLEIGH AND LEAH'S TEACHERS ALL BARBARA NELSON.
SO THANK YOU, BARBARA AND POINSETTIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, EVERETT COLBERG.
EVERETT'S TEACHERS IS ALICIA LAVASSEUR.
MADELEINE'S TEACHER IS JESSICA FULLER AND YUMI WU.
YUMI'S TEACHER IS LAURA BODENSTEINER.
SO THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THESE INCREDIBLE STUDENTS.
CONGRATULATIONS. SO WE'RE GOING TO ORGANIZE A PICTURE, AND THEN WE'LL BE OUTSIDE ON THE EAST LAWN FOR A RECEPTION.
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NEXT, I INVITE COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR JUNETEENTH DAY.AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MR. PAUL WALDRON FROM OUR IT.
HE'S OUR PROJECT MANAGER, TO THE MICROPHONE HERE, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION.
AND THEN, MR. WALDRON, IF YOU COULD SAY A FEW WORDS AFTERWARDS, WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
SO THE PROCLAMATION IS REGARDING JUNETEENTH DAY, WHEREAS JUNETEENTH DAY COMMEMORATES JUNE 19TH, 1865, IN WHICH UNION GENERAL GORDON GRANGER ANNOUNCED THE END OF THE CIVIL WAR IN GALVESTON, TEXAS, FOLLOWING OVER TWO CENTURIES OF SLAVERY SINCE COLONIAL AMERICA.
AND WHEREAS THOUSANDS OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE IN TEXAS WERE THE LAST TO LEARN OF THEIR LIBERATION, THEY ENGAGED IN THE JUBILATION THAT BEGAN IN TEXAS AND SPREAD TO OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION.
AND WHEREAS JUNE 19TH, 1865, CALLED FOR THE END OF INSTITUTIONALIZED HUMAN CHATTEL SLAVERY, AND LATER, ON DECEMBER 6TH, 1865, RATIFICATION OF THE 13TH AMENDMENT OFFICIALLY ABOLISHED SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD PROMOTES THE SIGNIFICANCE OF JUNETEENTH DAY TO HONOR AND REFLECT ON THE ESSENTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS, SYSTEMATIC HARDSHIPS, AND ONGOING ACHIEVEMENTS THAT BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICANS EXPERIENCE IN THE JOURNEY FOR TRUE LIBERTY, JUSTICE AND FREEDOM FOR ALL PEOPLE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, COUNCIL MEMBER CAROLYN LUNA, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 19TH, 2024 AS JUNETEENTH DAY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA CITY COUNCIL.
JUNETEENTH IS RECOGNIZED AS THE DAY THAT BROUGHT FREEDOM TO ENSLAVED PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES.
IT IS CELEBRATED ON JUNE 19TH AND WAS ANNOUNCED IN 1865, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AFTER ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, DECLARING THAT ALL PERSONS HELD AS SLAVES SHALL BE FREE.
ON JUNE 17TH, 2021, JUNETEENTH WAS RECOGNIZED AS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY BY PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN.
JUNETEENTH IS MORE THAN A FEDERAL HOLIDAY TO ME. IT IS A DAY TO RECOGNIZE AND REMEMBER THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND SACRIFICES THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE IN THE STRUGGLE FOR FREEDOM AND EQUALITY. IT IS A DAY TO REFLECT IN THE HOPE THAT, DESPITE THE LONG LASTING EFFECT THAT SLAVERY AND RACISM HAVE HAD ON THE BLACK COMMUNITY, WE CONTINUE TO LEARN AND GROW TOWARDS A FUTURE THAT IS EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE.
HOWEVER, THERE'S STILL ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN MANY AREAS, INCLUDING HOME OWNERSHIP, VOTING RIGHTS, PAY EQUITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE, TO NAME A FEW. JUNETEENTH IS PART OF AMERICA'S CULTURE AND SHOULD BE CELEBRATED BY ALL WHO ARE PART OF THIS DIVERSE COMMUNITY WE CALL THE UNITED STATES.
IN CONCLUSION, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND THE DEI COMMITTEE FOR ORGANIZING EVENTS THAT CONNECT PEOPLE AND ENSURE THAT EVERYONE OF EVERY RACE IS WELCOME.
LET'S CONTINUE TO CELEBRATE AND HONOR THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICANS ON THIS DAY.
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WE MUST BE COGNIZANT THAT CHALLENGES STILL EXIST AND PLEDGE TO PROMOTE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND ACCESSIBILITY FOR UNDERREPRESENTED PEOPLE.LEARNING FROM OUR PAST WILL HELP US CREATE A BETTER, BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR EVERYONE.
THANK YOU. SIR, WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN US FOR A PHOTO HERE IN THE FRONT? MIC] NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
I HAVE TO READ THE FOLLOWING.THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, PROVIDED.
THE REMARKS ARE CONFINED TO MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.
PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.
NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS. WHEN THE CLERK CALLS YOUR NAME, YOU'LL BE ASKED TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
I'VE ASKED THE CITY CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THREE MINUTES.
THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK.
PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, MARY LUCID, FOLLOWED BY LORI ROBBINS.
I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT WE ELECT RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE FOR DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT FOUR.
PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT ONLY LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE TELL THEM, BUT WILL NOT JUST ACCEPT ANY EXCUSE BY THE ADMINISTRATION FOR POOR PERFORMANCE. IN OTHER WORDS, ANYONE WHO CAN INVESTIGATE AND SEE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT IS GOING ON WITH PARKS AND RECREATION'S POOR TO TERRIBLE PERFORMANCE IN MAINTAINING A FRIENDLY SENIOR CENTER THAT WELCOMES SENIORS AND TRIES TO CATER TO THE SENIORS INTERESTS.
SENIORS WANT A FRIENDLY SENIOR CENTER WITH EMPLOYEES WHO SMILE AT SENIORS AND ARE WILLING TO TALK.
AND LAUGH AND EXPLORE NEW ACTIVITIES TO UPGRADE THE SENIOR CENTER EXPERIENCE.
SENIORS AREN'T GOING TO BE AROUND LONG, BUT THEY DO HAVE MEMORIES AND THEY DO SPEAK TO PEOPLE.
AND IF YOU WON'T EVEN INVESTIGATE, HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU JUSTIFY MAIER BLACKBURN AND THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOWING A NERVOUS NELLY? I CAN TELL YOU HER REAL NAME TO BAN A SENIOR CENTER EXPERIENCE FOR ME FOR NINE MONTHS.
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YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M SCARY, BUT I'M REALLY NOT THAT BAD.NINE MONTHS AND NO VISITING PEOPLE AND HAVING LUNCH AT THE SENIOR CENTER WITH PEOPLE WHO WON'T BE HERE BY DECEMBER, I'M PRETTY SURE.
THEY'RE OLDER THAN I AM, BUT I'M GOING TO BE AROUND FOR A WHILE TO SEE IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO GOVERN AND HELP SENIORS AND INVESTIGATE AND HAVE CERTAIN STANDARDS, BECAUSE I HAVE AN IRISH TEMPER, BUT IT DOESN'T LAST FOR NINE MONTHS. LET ME TELL YOU THAT MUCH.
SO IF YOU THINK BANNING A SENIOR CITIZEN FOR NINE MONTHS IS THE WAY CARLSBAD SHOULD TREAT SENIORS.
BASED ON ONE NERVOUS NELLY WHO MAYBE WAS COACHED BY SOMEONE FROM ENCINITAS WHO USED TO BE HERE, THEN THAT'S UP TO YOU.
WHY DON'T YOU DO SOMETHING FOR THE SENIORS? YOU SEEM TO KNOW KYLE LANCASTER, THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECS.
WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE CITY MANAGER, SCOTT CHADWICK, TO TALK TO HIM TO HELP SENIORS? GOOD EVENING.
THEN LORI ROBBINS, CITIZEN OF CARLSBAD.
CURRENTLY, THIS IS NOT THE CASE.
AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROBLEM THIS CREATES HAPPENED AT THE JUNE 5TH PLANNING MEETING, WHERE OVER 100 CITIZENS ATTENDED TO DISCUSS THE LARGE, SMART AND FINAL PROJECT IN DISTRICT ONE.
THE COMMISSIONERS VOTED 3 TO 2 TO DELAY THE MEETING BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WAS ABSENT.
YES, THE VOTE WAS 3 TO 2 TO DELAY THE MEETING, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A QUORUM OF COMMISSIONERS.
IT IS MY BELIEF THAT THE VOTE WAS SKEWED BECAUSE OF THE UNEQUAL DISTRICT REPRESENTATION.
THREE VOTES FROM DISTRICT THREE AND FOUR OVERTURNED THE TWO VOTES FROM DISTRICT ONE AND TWO.
THIS DECISION WAS NOT FAIR AND WAS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE 100 CITIZENS WHO TOOK TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY LIFE TO ATTEND THIS IMPORTANT MEETING.
NOW MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THE BALANCE BY FILLING THE PLANNING BOARD VACANCY WITH A QUALIFIED APPLICANT FROM DISTRICT 1 OR 2.
MAYOR BLACKBURN, YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO NOMINATE A QUALIFIED CANDIDATE.
I AM ASKING TONIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION TO IMPROVE THE BALANCE ON THE PLANNING BOARD AND TO BETTER REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD.
THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS? NO, WE DO NOT.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT.DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ANY OF THOSE? YES. MARY LUCID.
WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A MANAGER IN PARKS AND REC WHO WANTS TO DO MORE, NOT JUST COLLECT A PAYCHECK. THERE ARE NO KARAOKE MACHINES, AND PEOPLE LOVE KARAOKE AND YOU COULD PUT
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THEM IN A ROOM FAR FROM THE MADDING CROWD.MARY, I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU.
PLEASE KEEP IT TO WHAT ITEM NUMBER ONE IS.
AND THAT'S THE VACANCY OF THE CITY TREASURER.
KEEP IT TO THE CITY TREASURER.
OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU NOMINATE A CITY TREASURER WHO WILL ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING FOR THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT SO THAT THEY CAN HIRE QUALIFIED PEOPLE. MONEY IS IMPORTANT AND TREASURERS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT PRIORITIZING HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF ALL, INCLUDING SENIORS AT THE SENIOR CENTER, IS A PRIORITY.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT GOOD CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE YOURSELF WOULD BE LOOKING INTO IT.
I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY, BUT YOU HAVE EXTRA TIME SUPPOSEDLY.
SENIORS HAVE A LIMITED TIME SPAN AND NOT AS MUCH MONEY, SO THEY NEED A GOOD SENIOR CENTER.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR MONEY? I HOPE THAT YOUR TREASURER IS OLDER, AND HAD GOOD PARENTS THAT THEY LIKED, BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T TELL THAT BY THE SENIOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING AND FINDING EXCUSES TO BAN A LOVELY SENIOR CENTER VISITOR LIKE MYSELF FOR NINE MONTHS.
I DO THINK THAT'S A LITTLE LONG.
AND THE CITY MANAGER, WHO'S SUPPOSED TO SUPERVISE PEOPLE ALLOWS THEM TO BAN SOMEONE FOR NINE MONTHS.
SORRY. I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO WALK THAT LINE, BUT YOU'VE TAKEN OFF TOO FAR FROM WHAT THIS TOPIC IS.
I THINK YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT SATISFACTORILY.
BUT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT STAYING ON THE TOPIC OF ITEM NUMBER ONE.
IT'S MONEY AND HIRING THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT HIRING A GOOD TREASURER AND HIRING OR SPEAKING TO THE PARKS AND REC ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOMETHING FOR THE SENIOR CENTER? BUT I KNOW YOU'LL DO YOUR BEST BECAUSE IT INVOLVES A TREASURE AND MONEY.
BUT I WISH YOU FELT AS STRONGLY ABOUT THE MONEY AND THE TREASURY AS YOU DO ABOUT SENIORS AND HAVING A NICE PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.
BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND THERE ARE 10% OR MORE ACTUALLY OF THE POPULATION, SO WHY AREN'T YOU DOING MORE FOR THEM? AND YOU HAVE SCOTT CHADWICK WITH HIS EXPERIENCE TO HELP YOU.
SO WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM TO INVESTIGATE WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON? AND DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AT THE SENIOR CENTER FOR SENIORS, AS YOU WILL FOR THE TREASURER.
AND I'LL SAY A PRAYER FOR YOU ALL.
THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU. ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO PULL ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT? MOTION, PLEASE.
I WILL NOT BE VOTING ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
I'M SO SORRY. I TOLD YOU I WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT, AND I DIDN'T.
IT'S OKAY. JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU CAN VOTE, BUT YOU, IT WON'T BE APPLIED TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
I'M SO SORRY. I TOLD YOU I WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT, AND I DIDN'T.
DID WE GET A SECOND? SECOND? PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[9. DISTRICT 1 APPOINTMENT OF ONE MEMBER TO THE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION]
ITEM NUMBER NINE.YES. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS THE DISTRICT ONE APPOINTMENT OF ONE MEMBER TO THE PARK AND REC COMMISSION.
AND MAKING THE APPOINTMENT IS OUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JAMES REVELL FOR THE APPOINTMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE.
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WHAT ITEM NUMBER, IS THIS NINE? WOW, YOU GOT THERE QUICKLY.WELL, LET ME SEE HOW I CAN TIE THAT IN TO SENIORS AND THE SENIOR CENTER.
WHERE ARE WE? HERE? THERE. YOU GET FREE REIN ON THIS ONE.
THIS IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE SENIORS CENTER.
HALLELUJAH. PLEASE CALL THE MAIN NUMBER AND ASK TO SPEAK TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER TO ADVISE THEM THAT PARKS AND REC NEEDS TO LIGHTEN UP AND BE MORE PROACTIVE.
BUT YOU'VE ALSO BOUGHT EQUIPMENT FOR SENIORS TO USE, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T ADVERTISE IT IN YOUR SLICK LITTLE PR PRESENTATION, WHICH IS VERY, VERY WELL DONE.
KUDOS TO THE ARTS PEOPLE WHO DO THAT.
IT'S INFORMATIVE AND IT'S FRIENDLY.
NOW, I WISH I COULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THE ACTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I AM BEGGING YOU TO TALK TO SCOTT CHADWICK AND HAVE HIM TALK TO KYLE LANCASTER TO SEE HOW MORE SENIORS CAN GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER, EVEN IF IT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO GET EMPLOYEES TRAINING ON DEALING WITH, APPRECIATING THE HUMOR OF SENIORS.
YOU SEEM LIKE YOU'RE PRETTY SERIOUS UP THERE ABOUT GETTING REELECTED, AND THAT'S WONDERFUL.
BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOU'RE REELECTED? ARE YOU GOING TO HELP THE SENIORS? OR ARE YOU GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PARK AND REC DIRECTOR WHO SAYS, OH, IT'S FINE, WE DON'T NEED TWO CUSTOMER SERVICE PEOPLE ANYMORE. AT THE FRONT DESK.
WE USED TO NEED TWO CUSTOMER SERVICE PEOPLE TO HANDLE THE CROWD AND ONE VOLUNTEER THAT MADE THREE.
BUT WE DON'T NEED THEM ANYMORE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DISCOURAGED FROM GOING TO THE SENIOR CENTER.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT'S EASILY FIXED, BUT YOU'RE NOT DOING IT.
BUT YOU ARE THE CITY COUNCIL, AND YOU HAVE THE POWER TO HELP SENIORS PLEASE DO YOUR JOB.
OKAY. THE MOTION WAS FOR JAMES REVELLE.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS LUNA. I'M HAVING SERVED ON A COMMISSION AND ACTUALLY LISTENING TO ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS EARLIER TODAY.
I SORT OF LOOK AT THESE PRETTY CRITICALLY, AND BOTH CANDIDATES, I THINK ARE WELL POISED.
HOWEVER I I THINK MR. LARSON, SINCE HE HAS ATTENDED THE CITIZENS ACADEMY, THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME ALSO.
MR. LARSON HAS SERVED ON OUR CARLSBAD LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND IN HIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR COMMENTS HE REALLY SPEAKS TO THE CITIZENS AND TO THE COMMITTEES THAT HE'S BEEN ON AND ESPECIALLY IN RESPECT TO PARKS AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES.
SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING MR. LARSON. MISS BHAT-PATEL.
YES. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS.
AND I ALSO SAW THAT MR. LARSON WAS A CITIZENS ACADEMY GRADUATE, WHICH I NOTICE MAYBE MR. REVELL IS NOT. I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S PLANNING TO TAKE IT LATER.
THEY TEND TO SAY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO TAKE THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS JUST AROUND YOU KNOW, THE THE EXPERIENCE WITH OUR COMMITTEES.
IT SOUNDS LIKE HE WAS ALSO AN ALTERNATE MEMBER FOR THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
SO AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE BALANCE OF THE DISTRICTS, I SEE JAMES IS FROM MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW INDIVIDUALS FROM MY DISTRICT AND JUST CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE WOULD BE OTHERS FROM OTHERS AS WELL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MY COMMENT IS I.
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THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, THEN I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER.AND IN MOST OF THOSE CASES WE DON'T NEED A SECOND ON THIS, SO PLEASE VOTE.
THE VOTE WILL BE FOR JAMES RAVEL.
[10. TRANSNET LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEARS 2024-25 THROUGH 2028-29 AND TRANSFER OF FUNDS BETWEEN TRANSNET PROJECTS]
CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER TEN IS THE TRANSNET LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 THROUGH 2829 AND THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS BETWEEN TRANSNET PROJECTS.
MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR ENGINEERING MANAGER HUSSAIN WAJID HUSSAIN.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS HUSSAIN, AGED TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING MANAGER.
TONIGHT'S AGENDA ITEM IS CARLSBAD TRANSNET PROGRAM OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24-25 THROUGH 28-29.
RECOMMENDED ACTIONS ARE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CARLSBAD TRANSNET LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24-25 THROUGH 28-29 FOR INCLUSION IN THE 2025 SAN DIEGO ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS BETWEEN TRANSNET PROJECTS.
A BIT BACKGROUND ON TRANSNET FUND.
TRANSNET IS A COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX APPROVED BY THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY VOTERS IN 1987.
SANDAG SHOULD APPROVE EVERY TWO YEARS A MULTI YEAR PROGRAM OF PROJECTS SUBMITTED BY THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, IDENTIFYING PROJECTS ELIGIBLE TO USE TRANSNET FUNDS. SO WHAT IS PROGRAM OF PROJECTS? ALSO KNOWN AS PUP.
PUP IS A LIST OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT USE TRANSNET FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDS OR PROJECTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT AND INCREASE TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY.
THE PROPOSED PROGRAM OF PROJECTS IS A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM.
IT COVERS FISCAL YEAR 24-25 THROUGH 28-29.
WHY CARLSBAD PROGRAM OF PROJECTS NEEDS APPROVAL IN ORDER TO USE TRANSNET FUNDS, MEMBER AGENCIES OF SANDAG ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS AND APPROVE THEIR PROGRAMS OF PROJECTS EVERY TWO YEARS.
THE PROPOSED PROGRAM OF PROJECTS HAVE BEEN HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH FOLLOWING PRIMARY OBJECTIVES.
YOU EFFICIENT USE OF LOCAL AND TRANSIT FUNDS AND ALSO TO ALIGN THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECTS, BUDGET AND SCHEDULE WITH THOSE IN THE REGIONAL PROGRAM.
SO WHAT IS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, ALSO KNOWN AS RTIP? RTIP IS A FIVE YEAR PLANNING AND PROGRAMING DOCUMENT.
IT IDENTIFIES TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS SUBMITTED BY THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, AND IT ALSO ENABLES THE LOCAL AGENCIES TO RECEIVE FUNDING FROM FEDERAL, STATE AND TRANSNET FUNDS.
SO HAS ANYTHING CHANGED FOR CARLSBAD WITH RESPECT TO APPROVAL OF PROGRAM OF PROJECTS? THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.
THE CITY STILL NEEDS TO APPROVE ITS PROGRAM OF PROJECT AND SUBMIT IT TO SANDAG FOR INCLUSION IN THE 2025 TRANSNET PROGRAM OF PROJECTS, AND SANDAG WILL THEN PREPARE 2025 TRANSNET PROGRAM OF PROJECTS, WHICH WILL BE PROGRAMED BY 2025.
THOSE PROJECTS ARE EL CAMINO REAL AND CANYON ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, ANNUAL SLURRY SEAL PROJECT, ANNUAL OVERLAY PROJECT AND EAST-WEST CORRIDOR EMERGENCY RESURFACING AND RESTRIPING PROJECTS.
ALL THREE WERE PART OF THE CITY'S ONGOING PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, AND ALSO AN ADA IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH WAS PART OF THE CITY'S ONGOING ADA IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
THE PROPOSED PROGRAM OF PROJECTS INCLUDES SEVERAL PROJECTS WITH FEDERAL, STATE, OR REGIONAL FUNDS.
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CARLSBAD VILLAGE AND BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES WITH FEDERAL FUNDS.BARRIO LIGHTING PROJECT WITH FEDERAL FUNDS.
AVENIDA ENCINAS COASTAL RAIL TRAIL AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE STATE FUNDS, AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARACK AVENUE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WITH AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION GRANT PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY SANDAG.
THE PROPOSED PROGRAM OF PROJECTS INCLUDES SEVERAL PROJECTS WITH TRANSNET FUNDS.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THEIR NAMES.
THE LIST IS PROVIDED AS ATTACHMENT A EXHIBIT ONE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT PACKAGE.
MORE PROJECTS WITH TRANSNET FUNDS.
THE CITY HAS ALSO RECENTLY COMPLETED SEVERAL TRANSNET FUNDED PROJECTS.
A FEW OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE CARRYING A REMAINING TRANSNET CASH BALANCE.
STAFF ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF TRANSNET FUND TRANSFER FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $178,228 FROM THE RECENTLY COMPLETED PROJECTS TO THE ADA IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
THE TABLE BELOW LISTS THE FOUR PROJECTS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN RECENTLY HAS RECENTLY COMPLETED, ALONG WITH THE REMAINING CASH BALANCE FOR EACH PROJECT. NEXT STEPS.
ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING CARLSBAD PROGRAM OF PROJECTS.
THE ITEM IS BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT.
ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS BEING BETWEEN TRANSNET PROJECTS.
SUBMIT THE RESOLUTIONS TO SANDAG BY JULY 1ST.
SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS EXPECTED TO ADOPT THE 2025 RTP ON SEPTEMBER 27TH OF THIS YEAR.
AND FINALLY, THE FEDERAL APPROVAL OF THE FINAL 2025 RTP IS EXPECTED BY DECEMBER 16TH OF THIS YEAR.
JUST REMINDING EVERYONE ON THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS FOR THIS EVENING.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOVE. STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT BOTH RESOLUTIONS.
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CITY MANAGER. OKAY.THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 24-25 OPERATING BUDGET, STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PROGRAM, AND A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
THE FISCAL YEAR 24-25 APPROPRIATION LIMIT AND REVISION OF FEES AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES AND UPDATES TO CITY COUNCIL POLICY STATEMENT NUMBER 95, THE COST RECOVERY POLICY AND FEES AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, LAURA ROCHA, OVER ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AND OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, IS THAT CORRECT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. GOOD EVENING.
MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TONIGHT.
FINANCE DIRECTOR ZACH CORI AND I, LAURA ROCHA, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.
WE WILL BE PRESENTING THE FISCAL YEAR 24-25 PROPOSED BUDGET FOR ADOPTION.
TONIGHT'S RECOMMENDED ACTIONS ARE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO ADOPT RESOLUTIONS RELATED TO THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, THE APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT, AS WELL AS THE COST RECOVERY POLICY.
I WILL KICK THINGS OFF TONIGHT BY TALKING ABOUT OUR OVERALL APPROACH AND PRIORITIES WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND THEN I WILL INVITE MR. CORI TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE DETAILS, STARTING WITH THE BUDGET FOR EACH OF OUR MAJOR SERVICE AREAS, OUR CITYWIDE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, INCLUDING A PENSION FUNDING UPDATE AND AN UPDATE ON OUR FINANCIAL FORECAST, PERSONNEL, AN UPDATE ON CITY FEES, AND FINALLY, THE OUR INVESTMENTS IN DIGITAL AND PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
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AND THEN WE WILL BEGIN OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR ON JULY 1ST.BECAUSE OF THESE CHANGES, WE ARE COMING TO YOU THIS YEAR WITH GOOD NEWS ON SEVERAL FRONTS.
FIRST, WE HAVE ELIMINATED THE PROJECTED GENERAL FUND DEFICIT IN OUR FIVE YEAR FORECAST.
WE HAVE ONE OF THE STRONGEST PENSION POSITIONS IN THE REGION.
IN FACT, LOOKING AT THE CITIES PARTICIPATING IN THE CALPERS SYSTEM, WE HAVE THE SMALLEST UNFUNDED LIABILITY AMONG CITIES THAT HAVE NOT BORROWED MONEY TO PAY FOR THEIR PENSIONS.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS PROPOSED BUDGET MAINTAINS A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND FINALLY, YOU HAVE SET OUT A FIVE YEAR VISION IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
THIS HAS ALLOWED STAFF TO REMAIN FOCUSED ON YOUR MOST IMPORTANT PRIORITIES.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD NOW LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO FINANCE DIRECTOR ZACK KORACH.
SO NEXT I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE.
SPECIFICALLY, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE HAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY.
DURING THAT TIME, THE GENERAL FUND HAS ALSO BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT ONE TIME INVESTMENTS TO FUND THE CITY'S PENSION, VARIOUS CAPITAL PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THE CITY'S RISK AND WORKERS COMPENSATION PROGRAMS. OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE HAS INCREASED APPROXIMATELY 80% FROM $83 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 1920 TO $149 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 2425.
THE GENERAL FUND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROXIMATELY $60 MILLION WORTH OF EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY INVENTORY, WITH USEFUL LIVES RANGING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 5 AND 20 YEARS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
IN ORDER TO REPLACE THESE ASSETS THAT CAN REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT BUDGETARY BURDEN.
IN ORDER TO PRIORITIZE AND ENSURE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN FUTURE YEARS FOR THESE REPLACEMENTS, SUCH AS MEDICAL GURNEYS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE RADIOS, AND PARK INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITIES, STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING $17.5 MILLION BE MOVED FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE TO THIS NEW ASSET REPLACEMENT RESERVE.
SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THIS NEW RESERVE AND THE $17.5 MILLION ALLOCATION? THIS IS WHAT THE GENERAL FUND, RESERVE AND OTHER RESERVE BALANCES WOULD LOOK LIKE.
OF COURSE, WE DO HAVE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 74, THE 40% RESERVE TARGET, WHICH TRANSLATES TO APPROXIMATELY $95 MILLION. CURRENTLY, THE GENERAL FUND HAS AN ADDITIONAL $36 MILLION ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT POLICY REQUIREMENT AT $131 MILLION, AND THAT TRANSLATES TO A RESERVE RATIO OF APPROXIMATELY 55% ABOVE AND BEYOND THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE.
THE GENERAL FUND ALSO HAS SET ASIDE $9.6 MILLION FOR ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY, $10.7 MILLION FOR PENSION AND, OF COURSE, $17.5 MILLION FOR THE ASSET REPLACEMENT RESERVE PURSUANT TO CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION.
AS IT RELATES TO THE CITY'S PENSION.
THIS, OF COURSE, EXCLUDES FOUR CITIES THAT IN RECENT YEARS HAVE ISSUED PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS TO PAY DOWN THEIR LIABILITY, MEANING THESE CITIES HAVE ISSUED NEW DEBT IN ORDER TO PAY OFF THEIR OLD OR THEIR EXISTING DEBT.
IN TOTAL, THE BUDGET IS INCREASING BY $21.6 MILLION, OR JUST UNDER 10%.
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AND NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THIS TABLE WE CAN SEE ABOUT 50% OR HALF OF THAT INCREASE FALLS WITHIN THE NON DEPARTMENTAL LINE ITEM. THE NON DEPARTMENTAL LINE ITEM COMPRISES LARGELY TRANSFERS, WHICH IS THE MOVEMENT OF CASH FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO OTHER CITY FUNDS SUCH AS GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION, INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT AS WELL AS RISK AND WORKERS COMPENSATION PROGRAMS. BEYOND THAT, $10.7 MILLION INCREASE, THE MAJORITY OF THE GENERAL FUND'S YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO INCREASES WITHIN PUBLIC SAFETY, BOTH FIRE AND POLICE INCREASES FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS, AS WELL AS OVERTIME AND ONE TIME SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS.TAKING A BRIEF STEP BACK AND LOOKING AT CITYWIDE REVENUES YEAR OVER YEAR.
I WILL SKIP OVER THE GENERAL FUND.
ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE BY $7.5 MILLION, OR 8%.
THE INCREASE IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO SCHEDULED RATE INCREASES AS WELL AS TRANSFERS, OR THE MOVEMENT OF CASH FROM VARIOUS ENTERPRISE OPERATING FUNDS TO ENTERPRISE CAPITAL FUNDS.
INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS ARE INCREASING JUST UNDER $7 MILLION, OR 15%, AND THIS IS DUE TO A ONE TIME TRANSFER WHEREBY THE WORKERS COMPENSATION FUND IS PROJECTED TO RECEIVE THE $7 MILLION TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
LOOKING AT CITYWIDE EXPENSES AND AGAIN PASSING OVER THE GENERAL FUND TEMPORARILY.
THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE BY $1 MILLION, OR 5.5%.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE INCREASES ARE 100% REIMBURSABLE.
ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE $12.7 MILLION, OR JUST OVER 12%.
ENCINA WASTEWATER SERVICE INCREASES, AS WELL AS TRANSFERS FROM ENTERPRISE OPERATING FUNDS TO ENTERPRISE CAPITAL FUNDS, INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS INCREASING BY $7.4 MILLION, OR 22%.
THESE INCREASES LARGELY FALL WITHIN THE RISK AND WORKERS COMPENSATION PROGRAM PROGRAMS CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS YEARS AND THE TRENDS THAT WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE BOTH IN VOLUME AND MAGNITUDE FOR THE NUMBER OF CLAIMS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
ALL OF THE REPAYMENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
ONLY MINOR LEGAL COSTS REMAIN IN ORDER TO CLOSE OUT THE FUND IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.
WE ARE EXPECTING A MODERATE INCREASE OF $3.1 MILLION, OR 3.4%.
THERE IS STILL UNCERTAINTY IN THE ECONOMY.
WHILE MEDIAN HOME VALUES HAVE NOW INCREASED ABOVE $1.5 MILLION IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, ANY POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS THAT THE CITY MIGHT EXPERIENCE WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED INTO THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S ROLE UNTIL JANUARY 1ST OF 2025, AND FURTHER, IT WOULD NOT BE IMPACTING THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 25-26.
WHAT IS NOT SHOWN HERE ON THIS CHART IS WHERE SALES TAX REVENUES WERE ADOPTED AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 23-24 BUDGET, AND THAT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER AT $52 MILLION.
SO THAT IS A NOTABLE INCREASE.
PART OF THE INCREASE THAT'S BEEN EXPERIENCED THIS YEAR IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO INFLATION THAT WAS SUSTAINED THROUGH CONSUMER DEMAND, BUT ALSO AND MORE SIGNIFICANTLY, FROM A CORRECTION OF AN ERROR THAT WAS MADE BY ONE PARTICULAR AUTO DEALER IN HOW THEY WERE REPORTING OR MISREPORTING THEIR SALES TAX RECEIPTS.
TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN RELATIVELY FLAT OVER CURRENT YEAR ESTIMATES.
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STAFF HAVE REPORTED DURING OUR QUARTERLY UPDATES, THERE HAS BEEN VOLATILITY THAT WAS NOTED IN THE HOTELIERS AVERAGE DAILY ROOM RATES DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WHICH DID MODERATELY BRING DOWN OUR TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX REVENUES COMPARED TO PREVIOUSLY REPORTED PERIODS.WITH THAT SAID, THE SECOND HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR HAS PERFORMED STRONG.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS REVENUE CATEGORY ALONG WITH SALES TAX AND EVERY REVENUE CATEGORY FOR THAT MATTER, WITH A VERY CLOSE EYE, AND CONTINUE TO REPORT OUT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.
AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, NO CHANGES SINCE THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET PRESENTATION ON MAY 21ST, STILL AN INCREASE OF $21.6 MILLION, OR AGAIN, JUST UNDER 10% IN TOTAL.
AND I'LL TOUCH ON EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES BRIEFLY.
PERSONNEL IS INCREASING BY $4.6 MILLION, OR 3.6%.
THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THIS INCREASE IS CALPERS.
YOU'LL RECALL, CALPERS IN FISCAL YEAR 2122 EXPERIENCED A POOR INVESTMENT PERFORMANCE, WHEREBY THEY EARNED AN INVESTMENT LOSS OF 6.1% DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IS REQUIRED FOR CALPERS TO CLOSE THEIR BOOKS, INCORPORATE THEIR INVESTMENT PERFORMANCE INTO THEIR ACTUARIAL REPORTS, AND SEND THEM TO ALL PARTICIPATING AGENCIES IN ADVANCE.
TIME TO INCORPORATE INTO THE PARTICIPATING AGENCIES RESPECTIVE BUDGETS.
THERE, UNFORTUNATELY, IS A THREE YEAR GAP BETWEEN WHEN CALPERS EARNS AN INVESTMENT LOSS OR A GAIN, AND WHEN THAT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON PARTICIPATING AGENCIES BUDGETS.
SO CALPERS IS 6% LOSS THREE FISCAL YEARS AGO IS NOW IMPACTING THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S BUDGET.
MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS IS INCREASING 1.3% OR $700,000, MUCH OF WHICH ARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO ONE TIME SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS THAT WERE COVERED DURING THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET PRESENTATION.
CAPITAL OUTLAY IS INCREASING $400,000.
AND THEN LASTLY TRANSFERS AN INCREASE OF $15.6 MILLION OR 71%.
AND I WILL EXPLAIN THIS IN FURTHER DETAIL.
THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE IS DURING THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THIS YEAR, AN INITIAL BUDGET SURPLUS WAS IDENTIFIED, AND AS SUCH, STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED TO INCORPORATE AND BUILD IN TWO ONE TIME USES OF THIS SURPLUS, THE FIRST BEING AN ADDITIONAL TRANSFER OF $13 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND.
THESE DOLLARS WILL BE SET ASIDE TO FUND FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THE SECOND ONE TIME USE IS A $7 MILLION TRANSFER TO THE CITY'S WORKERS COMPENSATION FUND.
YOU MAY RECALL IN RECENT YEARS, THE CITY HAS MADE GREAT STRIDES TOWARDS INCREASING THE RESERVE LEVELS WITHIN THE WORKERS COMPENSATION FUND, SPECIFICALLY IN RESPONSE TO THE INCREASE IN VOLUME AS WELL AS MAGNITUDE OF CLAIMS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
THIS $7 MILLION TRANSFER WILL BE THE WILL COMPLETE THOSE EFFORTS IN BRINGING THE RESERVE LEVELS UP TO SUFFICIENT LEVELS IN LINE WITH BOTH ACTUARIAL BEST PRACTICES AS WELL AS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE CITY'S EXTERNAL AUDITOR.
NEXT, I'LL PROVIDE A DISCUSSION ON STAFFING LEVELS CITYWIDE BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND 2025.
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STAFFING LEVELS, SPECIFICALLY WITHIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT THE ELIMINATION OF THE CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER WOULD REDUCE THE TOTAL ALLOCATION FROM 1.5 TO 1 FULL TIME POSITION WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT SINCE THEN, AND INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL BUDGET BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A TRANSFER OF ONE POSITION A SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, WHICH RESULTS IN TOTAL STAFF ALLOCATION OF TWO FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.AND THIS IS AN INCREASE OVER CURRENT LEVELS AS THEY EXIST TODAY.
THIS WAS DRIVEN BY A NUMBER OF FACTORS, BUT LARGELY IN PART TO ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY BEING AT A VERY HEIGHTENED STATE, WITH INFLATION STILL BEING AT HISTORICALLY HIGH LEVELS IN EXCESS OF 8%.
ALSO, THE CITY HAD YET TO COMPLETE ITS FISCAL YEAR 2223, WHICH ULTIMATELY INDICATED AND REVEALED THAT GENERAL FUND REVENUES ONCE AGAIN REACHED HISTORIC HIGHS, WELL BEYOND ORIGINAL CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATIONS.
LATER IN THAT CALENDAR YEAR, IN OCTOBER OF 2023, AFTER THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED IN FISCAL YEAR 23 WAS CLOSED, STAFF HAD REPORTED OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE OUTLOOK WAS BECOMING MORE POSITIVE, AND AT THAT POINT WE WERE PROJECTING THE DEFICIT TO OCCUR NOT UNTIL YEAR FIVE.
FAST FORWARD TO TODAY AND OUR OUTLOOK IS INCREASINGLY MORE POSITIVE.
BUT A LARGE PART OF THIS SHIFT IS ALSO ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE EFFORTS PUT FORTH OVER THE LAST THREE BUDGET CYCLES, WHEREBY THE GENERAL FUND WAS ABLE TO REDUCE ONGOING COSTS OF OVER $5 MILLION. IN LOOKING AT THE FIRST YEAR HERE, WE CAN SEE A VERY SMALL SURPLUS COMPARED TO THE FUTURE YEARS.
THE REASON FOR THIS IS, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE PROGRAMED ONE TIME USES OR THE ADDITIONAL TRANSFERS TO GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS WORKERS COMPENSATION PROGRAMS, SINCE THOSE ARE ONE TIME USES AND NOT ONGOING.
EACH YEAR, CITY STAFF EVALUATE AND PROPOSE CHANGES TO FEES AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
A COMPREHENSIVE COST OF SERVICE STUDY IS IS PREPARED EVERY 5 TO 7 YEARS TO UPDATE THE CALCULATION OF THE COST, AND TO ALSO CONFIRM THAT THE FEES AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES DO NOT EXCEED THOSE UPDATED COSTS.
THE LAST STUDY WAS CONDUCTED IN 2019 AND EVENTUALLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 8TH, 2021.
GIVEN THE CITY'S RECENTLY ADOPTED COST RECOVERY POLICY, WHICH AGAIN STRIVES TO ALIGN FEE CHARGES WITH THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, STAFF ARE PLANNING TO CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE FEE STUDY DURING THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR BEFORE APPLYING ANY FURTHER INCREASES AS IT PERTAINS TO COST RECOVERY.
IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, AND AS IT RELATES TO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, THE ONLY INCREASES THAT WILL BE APPLIED WILL BE THE APPLICABLE INDEX AS DISCUSSED IN AND AS INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.
AMENDMENTS TO THE COST RECOVERY POLICY NUMBER 95 ARE ALSO INCLUDED.
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218, 218, EXCUSE ME.NEXT I WILL BE SPEAKING ON THE STRATEGIC DIGITAL TRANSFORMATION INVESTMENT PROGRAM.
BEFORE YOU ON THIS SLIDE IS A LIST OF THE NEW PROJECTS, MOST NOTABLY THE RFID REPLACEMENT, $600,000.
IN TOTAL, $1.3 MILLION IS BEING REQUESTED FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
IN LOOKING AT THE AT THE SD TIP, THE FIVE YEAR PLAN ASSUMING FUNDING OVER THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF OF JUST OVER $23 MILLION, WITH PLANNED SPENDING OF $12.7 MILLION, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE A REMAINING OR AN ENDING BALANCE IN FISCAL YEAR 29 OF JUST OVER $16 MILLION. NEXT I WILL BE COVERING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
IN FISCAL YEAR 24-25, STAFF ARE REQUESTING A TOTAL ALLOCATION OF $15.6 MILLION, AND THIS SLIDE IS A GOOD DEPICTION OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
REGARDING THE APPROACH FOR CIP, WHEREBY CONSTRUCTION BUDGET IS NO LONGER BEING REQUESTED UP FRONT OR AS PART OF THE ANNUAL ADOPTED CAPITAL BUDGET, BUT RATHER ONLY WHEN THE PROJECT REACHES THE APPROPRIATE PHASE.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN FINAL DESIGN IS BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL BY STAFF AND ACCEPTED AND APPROVED, IT WILL BE AT THAT TIME THAT THE NECESSARY CONSTRUCTION BUDGET WILL BE REQUESTED. THE FISCAL YEAR 25 REQUEST AGAIN IS $15.6 MILLION.
BUT UNDER THE OLD APPROACH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TOTAL REQUEST WOULD HAVE BEEN UPWARDS OF $84.8 MILLION, WHICH AGAIN LARGELY COMPRISES OF CONSTRUCTION BUDGET. THERE ARE TWO NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE PARTIALLY GRANT FUNDED, THE FIRST FOR PASEO DEL NORTE BIKE AND PET IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS SCHOOLS TRAFFIC SAFETY PROGRAM.
AND CIRCLING BACK TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE RELATED PRIORITY PROJECTS 47 PROJECTS IN TOTAL.
ORIGINALLY WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THERE WERE 52 THAT WERE REFERENCED.
SINCE THAT TIME, SOME HAVE BEEN COMBINED AND SOME ARE NO LONGER NEEDED.
CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 35 PROJECTS THAT ARE ON TRACK IN ACCORDANCE WITH STRATEGIC PLAN DEADLINES.
WE WENT THROUGH DETAIL OF THOSE PROJECTS DURING THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET PRESENTATION.
THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF CLOSED PROJECT ACCOUNTS.
AND THEN LASTLY, A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR REMOVAL, EITHER DUE TO NO LONGER HAVING A NECESSITY TO COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS, OR IN THE CASE OF OCEAN STREET RESTROOM FACILITY.
ADA REGULATIONS LIMIT THE CITY'S ABILITY TO CONTINUE THE WORK ON THAT PROJECT.
IN TOTAL, $2.6 MILLION IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE RETURNED TO THE RESPECTIVE FUNDING SOURCES.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES. MARY LUCID.
IDEA FOR THAT $2.6 MILLION, PUT IT IN A FUND TO BUILD A SECOND SENIOR CENTER SOUTH OF TOWN.
SENIORS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND IT'S DEDICATED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HOPEFULLY TO CONTINUE IN YOUR JOBS.
I HOPE YOU WOULD LOOK AT THAT.
IT'S NEVER TOO EARLY TO START SAVING THE 2.6 MILLION TOWARDS THE SENIOR CENTER SOUTH OF TOWN.
I HOPE THAT'S ON TOPIC AND ALSO MOVING ALONG, SPEAKING OF THE SENIOR CENTER.
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AND ONLY ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO APPEAL.SO MAYBE YOU COULD START A FUND TO HELP SENIORS? IN PRIVATE, DEAL WITH DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS OR VINDICTIVE ACTIONS OF PARK AND REC STAFFERS, OR TAKE PART OF THAT MONEY AND UPGRADE THE TRAINING FOR PARK AND WRECKERS AT THE SENIOR CENTER, BECAUSE IT COULD BE A NICE, FUN PLACE FOR SENIORS TO ENJOY THEIR FINAL YEARS.
BUT I WON'T KNOW TILL DECEMBER BECAUSE I'VE BEEN BANNED FOR NINE MONTHS FOR WALKING AGGRESSIVELY.
ANYWAY, I DO HOPE YOU WILL REMEMBER SENIOR CITIZENS, BECAUSE THEY WILL CERTAINLY REMEMBER YOU AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO HELP THEM, NOT TO JUST HAVE A TITLE.
YOU HAVE TALENT AT YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE.
WHY DON'T YOU INVOLVE MR. CHADWICK AND ASK HIM TO LOOK INTO THE SENIOR CENTER AND PARK AND REC? AND PLEASE PUT THE MONEY IN A FUND FOR TO BUILD A SECOND SENIOR CENTER.
AS ALWAYS, IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU ALL AND HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS OR DOESN'T WORK.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO, WE DO NOT.
QUESTIONS. MAYOR, CAN YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE? THANK YOU. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MY, I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.
WHEN YOU SHOW THESE PROJECTIONS, WHAT DO YOU FIGURE FOR EMPLOYEE PAY? YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE COST OF LIVING FOR EMPLOYEES IS GOING TO GO UP, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HIT THAT YET.
WHAT DO YOU HOW MUCH DO YOU USUALLY FIGURE WHEN YOU DO YOUR PROJECTIONS? THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR THE QUESTION.
WE BASE OUR ASSUMPTIONS OFF OF THE MOST RECENTLY COUNCIL APPROVED MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING.
THOSE GENERALLY WILL SPAN ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1 TO 3 YEARS.
BEYOND THAT, WE WILL TAKE A HISTORICAL AVERAGE OF GROWTH.
AND YOU SAID CALPERS USUALLY REPORTS THREE YEARS BEHIND.
WE'VE HAD A RIDICULOUSLY GREAT YEAR OR SO IN THE STOCK MARKET.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CALPERS IS HEAVILY INVESTED IN THE STOCK MARKET.
DO WE FIGURE THAT INTO OUR PROJECTIONS FOR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, OR DO WE STAY REAL CONSERVATIVE AND WAIT UNTIL THEY TELL US WHAT THOSE RESULTS ARE? WE DO. THE MOMENT THAT WE ARE.
WE'RE THE MOMENT THAT THE CITY RECEIVES THE INFORMATION FROM CALPERS.
WE IMMEDIATELY FACTOR THAT INTO OUR FIVE YEAR FORECAST.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE INVESTMENT LOSS THAT CALPERS EXPERIENCED IN FISCAL YEAR 21-22.
WE WERE ALREADY FACTORING THAT INTO OUR FORECAST LAST YEAR FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR 22 AND IN 23, SPECIFICALLY CALPERS HAD A BETTER INVESTMENT PERFORMANCE YEAR.
SO WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN FISCAL YEAR 25-26.
AND TO YOUR POINT, YES, THE STOCK MARKET HAS BEEN PERFORMING AT A STRONGER LEVEL.
WHAT NUMBER DO YOU PLUG IN THERE, AND HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT NUMBER YOU'RE PLUGGING IN FOR 3 OR 4 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD? WE PLUG IN OR WE FORECAST, ASSUMING THAT CALPERS WILL IN FACT ACHIEVE THEIR TARGET RATE OF RETURN, WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT 6.8%.
OF COURSE, IN REALITY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BE EARNING 6.8% EVERY YEAR, AND SO THAT VOLATILITY IS WHAT MAKES THE CHALLENGE EVER SO DIFFICULT TO MANAGE.
BUT AGAIN, THE GOOD NEWS IS IF THERE IS GOOD NEWS WITH CALPERS IS THAT THE MOMENT THAT THE INFORMATION DOES BECOME AVAILABLE, WE HAVE AT LEAST A YEAR BEFORE IT IMPACTS THE CITY'S BUDGET.
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WE DO HAVE TIME TO PREPARE AND MAKE STRATEGIC SHIFTS IF AND AS NECESSARY.NOW, I'D JUST LIKE TO GO BACK A FEW MONTHS WHEN WE CHALLENGED OUR CITY MANAGER TO GO IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT OUR, OUR OWN HOUSE, AND I THINK HE DID AS AS WE ASKED, HE HAD TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS.
AND OF ALL THE POSITIONS FUNDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND, SEVEN OF THEM ARE ALREADY VACANT.
SO THEY'VE BEEN FUNCTIONING AS VACANCIES.
SO MR. CHADWICK, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND TAKING OUR DIRECTION VERY SERIOUSLY AND COMING BACK AND DOING I THINK YOU HAD TO MAKE SOME HARD CALLS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS BURKHOLDER.
I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE AND ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF.
AND I, YOU KNOW, REALLY APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO THIS EVERY YEAR.
AND PERSONALLY, THANK YOU FOR THE WORKSHOP THAT YOU HELD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY SMILING REALLY BIG THAT WE'RE NOT BEING SEEING RED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO STAFF AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WORKED HARD TO MAKE CUTS AND TO HELP WITH THE MODIFICATION OF THE WAY THAT WE DO OUR BUDGETING SO THAT IT'S MORE RESILIENT, IT'S MORE FLEXIBLE, AND WE HAVE THIS CUSHION THAT WE CAN USE IN CASE WE FALL ON HARD TIMES, WHICH WE KNOW WILL HAPPEN. WE WE KNOW THAT THOSE LINES WILL CROSS.
I ALSO WANTED TO TO CONGRATULATE YOU FOR MAKING THIS A BIT OF AN EASIER PROCESS FOR US, JUST GIVING US ALL THE INFORMATION AND HAVING THE KIND OF REPEAT OF THAT INFORMATION AT THE EARLIER ONE AT THE EARLIER BUDGET REVIEW AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY WORKSHOP.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE FISCAL DISCIPLINE AND THANKS FOR THE CUSHION IN OUR RESERVES.
AND I APPRECIATE THE PROACTIVE APPROACH.
I THINK AS A COUNCIL, I REALLY HOPE THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN, IN THE FUTURE, INCREASE OUR REVENUE STREAMS, FOR US TO KEEP ASKING OUR CITY MANAGER TO MAINTAIN SERVICE LEVELS AND THE SAME QUALITY OF LIFE THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD TO ME, IS JUST UNFAIR AND UNJUST TO OUR STAFF. WE AS A COUNCIL ARE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.
I THINK BY NOT INCREASING OUR REVENUE STREAMS, IT MEANS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO CUT POSITIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WHICH IN TURN WILL IMPACT OUR LEVELS AND TYPES OF SERVICES, OR CONTINUE TO LOWER PRIORITIZATION OF CERTAIN PROJECTS.
AND I THINK THAT THOSE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES, ARE THE ONES THAT ARE WORKING DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND ARE WORKING HARD AND DESERVE TO HAVE A WORK LIFE BALANCE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ATTRACTING AND RETAINING TALENT, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE FULLY STAFFED.
I GET WE WANT FOLKS TO WORK HARD, WE ALL DO.
I KNOW, I KNOW, OUR STAFF WORKS OVERTIME SOMETIMES AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE FOR ME, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE THAT THEY DESERVE TO HAVE A BIT OF TIME FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND THEMSELVES.
SO I THINK THAT'S FOR THIS INDUSTRY, THAT'S FOR ANY INDUSTRY.
IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT STANDARD.
YOU SEE ALL THE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE WORK THEY DO.
AND I THINK THAT WE ALSO, AS A COUNCIL, SHOULD BE GIVING THEM THAT LIFE AS WELL.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS FOR THE POSITION SWITCH AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I KNOW THAT I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO CHAT WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
I CHECKED IN WITH THEM AGAIN, AND I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THAT.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WERE CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
AND AGAIN, I WANT TO UNDERLINE THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING THE SERVICE LEVELS FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, ENSURING WE HAVE THE SAME SOLID FOUNDATION OF RELATIONSHIPS FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
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I MEAN, OUR, YOU KNOW, GROSS REGIONAL PRODUCT WAS $16.1 BILLION JUST IN THE LAST YEAR.I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT OUR CITY CONTINUES TO REMAIN CUTTING EDGE AND INNOVATIVE AS OUR CITY IS ON THE MAP, AS AN EXCELLENT CITY, WE'RE LIKE THE ENVY OF THE ENTIRE REGION.
AND LASTLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW I ADVOCATED FOR FOR MANY YEARS, AND I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING AS WE START DOING OUR VOTES, IF WE COULD SEGMENT OUT THE POSITION OF DEI MANAGER, AS I RECEIVED FEEDBACK MANY TIMES, AND AGAIN, I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR STAFF BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR TEAMMATES, VARIOUS STAFF IN PASSING COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
YOU'VE HEARD MY COMMENTS ON THIS A FEW TIMES NOW.
I TRULY FEEL WE ARE DOING THE AGENCY A DISSERVICE BY NOT GIVING THIS POSITION MORE TIME.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST BY MY COLLEAGUES.
JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT LAST QUESTION, I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED.
I DID ASK ABOUT THIS IN OUR BRIEFING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR STAFF WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE ON OUR BUDGET DECISION IF WE WERE TO PUT THAT BACK IN, AND WHERE WOULD WE GET THE FUNDS TO PUT THAT POSITION BACK IN? SURE. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL ON ZACK TO PULL THAT INFORMATION UP.
SURE. AS INCLUDED IN THE MEMORANDUM ISSUED TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF 2024, THE ASSOCIATED COSTS FOR THAT POSITION WAS APPROXIMATELY $155,000. SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL BRING THAT POSITION BACK AND INCLUDE IT FOR FISCAL YEAR 24-25? THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE FUNDED EITHER FROM ESTIMATED REVENUES OR FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE.
OKAY, GREAT. AND SINCE THAT POSITION WAS SLATED TO BE CUT, WHAT WERE WHAT PLANS WERE PUT IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THE WORK OF DEI CONTINUES IN THE CITY WITHOUT THAT POSITION? SURE. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL UP OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, JUDY VON KALINOWSKI.
AND THEN, JUDY, IF YOU COULD ALSO TALK ABOUT YOUR CERTIFICATIONS AS WELL.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. JUDY VON KALINOWSKI.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE WORK ITSELF WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
SO ALL THE WORK WILL REMAIN IN PLACE, THE PROGRAMS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND HAVE BEEN DISPERSED AND WILL REMAIN IN HR, BUT ALSO DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE EVERY PERSON IS GOING TO HAVE SOME SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT OVERALL HR, THE TRAINING, THE RECRUITMENT, THE SURVEYS, THE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT, THERE'S MANY FACTORS TO IT WILL REMAIN FULLY IN PLACE, MANAGED BY HR.
AND THAT WOULD BE MYSELF AND PAUL HO.
AND THEN SAVANNAH RODRIGUEZ WOULD BE THE MAIN LEADERS AND MANAGERS OF THIS PROGRAM.
BUT IT WILL WELL, WELL REMAIN INTACT.
AND THEN, JUDY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE CERTIFICATIONS IN DEI? I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
AS FAR AS MY OWN CERTIFICATIONS, AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY MANAGER, I AM A CERTIFIED COACH IN ABOUT EIGHT DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES, FROM LEADERSHIP TO PERFORMANCE WELLNESS AND ETC. AND I'M ALSO A DEI CULTURAL COACH.
I'M ALSO A DEI CERTIFIED COACH, AND I'M ALSO AN CULTURAL AWARENESS.
AND ABOUT I DON'T WANT TO KEEP GOING ON, BUT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL ALMOST EVERY DEI AND ALSO WILL BE CERTIFIED IN ABOUT A WEEK OF THE BRAIN LEADERSHIP, WHICH IS ALL PSYCHOLOGICAL SAFETY. AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING INTO IN TEAM PSYCHOLOGICAL SAFETY, WHICH IS A BRAIN LEADERSHIP FROM THE BRAIN LEADERSHIP ACADEMY.
SO. AS HARD AS THIS IS FOR EVERYONE AND I GET IT.
WE ARE FULLY ENGAGED, FULLY IMMERSED IN THIS AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
SO REST ASSURED WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND KNOW THAT THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WHEN I HAD ASKED BEFORE, THE REASON THAT I DIDN'T CALL THIS POSITION BACK OUT WAS BECAUSE I HAD BEEN ASSURED THAT THE WORK WOULD CONTINUE THROUGH OUR OTHER STAFF.
SO BUT I'M WILLING AND OPEN MINDED TO HEAR THE ARGUMENTS TO BRING IT BACK.
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SO I WOULD PUT IT BACK ON YOU IF THAT SATISFIES YOU.I THINK I'VE ALREADY SHARED THOSE.
AND SO I YOU KNOW, MISS VON KALINOWSKI, I RESPECT YOU SO MUCH, AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.
I KNOW MR. CHADWICK AND I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.
AND I'VE SHARED, I DON'T WANT TO KEEP REPEATING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT POINTS THAT I BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST MEETING AND THIS MEETING AND OTHER MEETINGS, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
SO DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION SEPARATELY AND VOTE ON THAT? I WOULD, I WANTED TO ASK I'LL ASK MISS FROST.
WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO SEGMENT THAT PIECE? I THINK THE SUGGESTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA WOULD WORK.
YOU COULD EITHER MAKE YOUR OWN MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET WITH THE CHANGE OF INCLUDING THE FUNDING FOR THIS POSITION.
THAT MIGHT MIGHT BE A PATH FORWARD FOR YOU.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SEGMENT THIS PIECE OUT IF POSSIBLE.
FOR SIMPLICITY, WOULD IT BE BETTER JUST TO SECTION THAT OUT? ASK THAT QUESTION OF THE COUNCIL.
CERTAINLY YOU COULD DO IT THAT WAY AS WELL.
THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING.
SO BEST WAY WOULD BE AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE ADDING THIS BACK ON TO THE BUDGET.
SECOND. CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
MISS. MISS JUDY, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
SO THE DEI FROM THE COMMENTS MY COLLEAGUE MADE, IT MAKES ME THINK THAT DEI WAS DEPLOYED INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE MANY OUTREACH EFFORTS.
IF I'M HEARING THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, IT'S MANY OUTREACH EFFORTS TO BRING OUR COMMUNITY IN.
THAT'S THROUGH JOB FAIRS, THROUGH BRINGING RECRUITMENT PROCESSES GOING OUT.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT GOING TO END? NO, THERE'S NOT ONE ASPECT OF THE PROGRAM THAT WILL END.
WE YOU KNOW, WE HAD DEI SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THOSE EFFORTS, DEI EFFORTS.
AND WE CONTINUE TO SHIFT AND CHANGE AND IT EVOLVES AND WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE WITH IT.
SO AGAIN, THERE IS NOT ONE ASPECT OF THE PROGRAM THAT WILL CEASE WHATSOEVER.
HE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT IN MANY ASPECTS AND HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED.
WE HAVE, PROBABLY WE HAVE 20 DIFFERENT 21 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS IN HR, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, AND EVERY PART OF IT HAS A DEI COMPONENT IN IT THAT EACH MANAGER, EACH SUPERVISOR, EACH EMPLOYEE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR TRAINING PROGRAM, RIGHT, THAT WE HAVE.
AND THAT'S WHERE 100% COMPLIANT IN ALL AREAS OVER THAT, BECAUSE CI GOES A LOT DEEPER.
WE HAVE ABOUT 28 POLICIES THAT ARE RELATED TO EMPLOYEES, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE BEEN 100% COMPLIANT IN ALL OF OUR EFFORTS TO HAVE OUR EMPLOYEES ENGAGED, EDUCATED, INFORMED, AND IN ALL OF THESE EFFORTS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT IT WASN'T LIKE A IT'S FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT BRINGING THE TALENT INTO CARLSBAD.
EXACTLY. IT'S ABOUT CARLSBAD ITSELF, OUR CITY, OUR EMPLOYEES AND BEING INCLUSIVE HERE.
AND THE BELONGING, WHICH AGAIN WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO EVOLVE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO BECOME CERTIFIED IN WHAT IS PSYCHOLOGICAL SAFETY? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK IT'S ONE SENTENCE AND IT'S PROBABLY 28, 30 PAGES OF WHAT IT IS.
SO WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE WITH IT AS WE GO.
EVERY YEAR IT CHANGES AND WE'RE VERY IN TUNE TO THE WORLD OF WHICH IS NOW KNOWN AS EID.
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YES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT.ANY COMMENTS, MISS LUNA? I HATE TO GO BACK ON MY CAREER, BUT THIS HAPPENS A LOT WHEN YOU FLEX IN AND FLEX OUT, AND JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A POSITION WITH A TITLE, THE SERVICES ARE STILL BEING DELIVERED.
IT'S JUST NOT THE PLATINUM VERSION.
DURING THESE TIMES WHERE WE HAVE TO FLEX IN BECAUSE OF OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES.
YOU CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH FROM THE STAFF.
AND I THINK MR. CHADWICK DID A GREAT JOB.
I THINK MAYBE WE'RE PLATEAUED OUT HERE.
SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN LIKE NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER.
YOU AS COUNCIL WILL BE LOOKING AND EVALUATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES.
AND IF THE MATH WORKS, YOU CAN THEN FLEX IT BACK OUT AGAIN.
BUT I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS STAFF HAS TAKEN BOTH OF THOSE POSITIONS, HAS INCORPORATED THEM ELSEWHERE, THAT THEY CAN BE DONE. OTHERWISE I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE WORK IS NOT GETTING DONE.
IT'S JUST NOT JUST NOT MAYBE SO FLASHY OR SO OBVIOUS.
AND I THINK YOU WILL HOLD THE STAFF ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.
SO I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE US.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR RETAINING THE DEI MANAGER POSITION.
AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. THAT FAILS IN A 3 TO 2 VOTE. NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO COMMENTS.
BUT YOU GUYS ARE THE FUEL THAT RUNS THIS MACHINE.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF HEARING ME SAY IT, BUT MONEY IS WHAT RUNS THIS, THIS CITY.
AND YOU GUYS DO A WONDERFUL JOB BALANCING ALL THOSE NEEDS.
AND THEN WE'RE BRINGING IN ENOUGH.
AND YOU GUYS ARE WONDERFUL AT IT.
AND I'M I'M GOING TO SUPPORT ALL 17 OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
IS THAT A MOTION I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE MOTION UP TO? MISS BHAT-PATEL.
ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE.
ALL RESOLUTIONS IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.
AND IF I CAN, FOR THE RECORD, JUST MAKE MY COMMENTS KNOWN ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR POSITION.
I WILL BE VOTING ON IT AND VOTING YES, BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR POSITION THAT I MENTIONED, I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE VOTE TO REMOVE THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS FROST.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? DID WE COVER EVERYTHING? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
[12. PROPOSITION H BALLOT MEASURE]
ITEM NUMBER 12.THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS PROPOSITION H.
BALLOT MEASURE. AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, ALLEGRA FROST.
ALLEGRA. THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
I DO HAVE A BRIEF POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT I CAN GIVE REGARDING THIS ITEM ON THE PROP H BALLOT MEASURE, RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IT'S BEEN BACK BEFORE YOU, IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO FOREGO THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND GO DIRECTLY TO QUESTION AND ANSWER, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? I SEE EVERYBODY'S HEAD NODDING.
MS. ACOSTA, CAN WE JUST PUT UP THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON? THAT SLIDE WOULD BE NICE.
I'M SORRY. OH, THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.
YES. THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS BACK.
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I KNOW WE JUST HAD THIS DISCUSSION LAST WEEK AND YOU ALL GOT IT BACK TO US.A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP FROM CONVERSATIONS FROM RESIDENTS AND JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP WAS THE PUBLIC SAFETY EXEMPTION A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CARLSBAD TOMORROW COMMITTEE? YEAH, WE WENT BACK AND DOUBLE CHECKED AND IT WAS IN FACT INCLUDED IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT HAS COME UP IS, AND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME SOME INFORMATION ON THIS ARE WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF HAVING AN EXEMPTION? THOSE ARE THE YOU KNOW, I HAVE MY RATIONALE, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
SO TYPICALLY WHEN YOU END UP PLACING SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT, IT DOES REQUIRE AGAIN, PLACING, HAVING TIME FOR WE END UP RUNNING THE BALLOT EVERY TWO YEARS.
AND SO BEING ABLE TO PLACE SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT AGAIN YOU MAY BE DELAYED BY IMPLEMENTING THAT.
ULTIMATELY, ALL OF THE APPROVALS WOULD STILL NEED TO GO FORWARD, AS THEY USUALLY WOULD.
BUT BY DOING THE EXEMPTION, IT WOULD POTENTIALLY SHAVE OFF A LITTLE TIME.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JUST COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, CITY MANAGER, YOU SAID IT TYPICALLY RUNS EVERY TWO YEARS, BUT YOU CAN CALL FOR SPECIAL ELECTIONS ON PROPOSITION H MATTERS, CORRECT? I WILL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
YES WE COULD. THEY'RE TYPICALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO I THINK IN PAST PRACTICE IT HAS BEEN THE THE PREFERENCE TO GO FOR THE GENERAL ELECTIONS.
BUT YOU COULD DO A SPECIAL ELECTION AS WELL.
YEAH. YOU'RE NOT PROHIBITED. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? MISS LUNA, WE'LL START WITH YOU.
THE MATH DOES NOT WORK FOR ME.
WE HAVE OUR OWN FINANCE DIRECTOR IN THE REPORT SAYING THAT THE THE AMENDMENT WILL NOT APPRECIABLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS REQUIRING VOTER APPROVAL BEFORE THEY MAY PROCEED.
WE'RE TALKING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
WHEN YOU HAVE A CAP OF 3 MILLION, NONE OF THOSE PROJECTS QUALIFY.
IT'S JUST SIMPLE MATH AND I REALLY CAN'T SEE.
WE JUST ELIMINATED DEI POSITION, AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO SPEND $140,000 TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S IT'S GOING TO GET OUR CITIZENS WHAT THEY WANT.
EVEN IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
I MEAN, I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE THAT BROUGHT THIS SUGGESTION, AND HE SAYS THAT HE DID SOME CHECKING WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE WAS NO CONCERN ABOUT RAISING THE BASE FROM 1 MILLION, IN FACT, A COMMON IN FACT, A COMMON COMMENT WAS THAT 5 MILLION COULD MAYBE BE ACCEPTABLE. THE 3.09 AND THE DRAFT MEASURE IS WELL BELOW THAT.
ALSO, THERE WAS ZERO CONCERN ABOUT AN ANNUAL ESCALATOR, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE'RE WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS AND GOING TO SPEND $130,000 IN $140,000 TO PUT THIS.
IF YOU RAISE IT TO 3.09, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.
I THINK THE ONLY THING IN PLAY HERE IS IF YOU WANT TO EXEMPT PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.
MR. BURKHOLDER, THANK YOU AGAIN.
I SHARE MY COLLEAGUES SENTIMENTS TO THAT END, I WHICH IS WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, IF IT'S 3.09 MILLION, DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE? AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.
I THINK IT'S FAIR THE VOTERS SPOKE.
THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS.
AND I AGREE, TOO, THAT PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD BE THE ONLY THING WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THE APPROPRIATE TIME IN OUR BUDGET TO DO THIS.
AND WITH REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE ELECTIONS OFF EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS AND ADDING A BALLOT MEASURE ON EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, PERHAPS THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT A LITTLE CLOSER.
IF WE HAVE A POLICE STATION THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT, WE DON'T NEED TO WAIT TWO YEARS TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, TO THEN WAIT THROUGH ALL THE REGULATORY PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO EVEN PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND.
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THANK YOU, MR. ACOSTA. THANK YOU.I SEE THIS IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY, I THINK, FROM MY COLLEAGUES WHO JUST SPOKE.
I DON'T THINK WE DISAGREE FUNDAMENTALLY, BUT I THINK I'M JUST SEEING THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO THE CARLSBAD TOMORROW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT WE RAISE THE LIMIT.
AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN STUCK AT THIS, EVEN $1 MILLION SINCE 1982, AND EVERYTHING COSTS MORE IN 2024 AND WILL CONTINUE TO COST MORE.
SO THE RAISING OF THE LIMIT REALLY JUST WAS EQUATING IT TO TODAY'S DOLLARS.
I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH RAISING IT MORE SO THAT WE CAN NOT PUT SOME PROJECTS ON THE BALLOT, PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO TO GET DONE, LIKE THE 5 MILLION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA MENTIONED.
THE SECOND PART OF THIS, EXEMPTING PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I THINK THAT PART PAYS FOR ITSELF. SO LET'S TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SAID WE WANT TO HAVE BUILT WITHOUT PASSING THIS MEASURE.
I HOPE I'M MAKING MYSELF CLEAR WITH THAT ARGUMENT.
SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.
THE FIRST PART DOESN'T DO A TON, I AGREE, BUT I THINK IT RESPECTS THE WILL OF THE VOTERS WHO ORIGINALLY SAID, WE WANT TO CAP BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE A VOICE IN IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I'D LOVE TO RAISE IT MORE, BUT I THINK WE'RE RESPECTING THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BACK TO US.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I, TOO, BELIEVE 1982 WAS OVER 40 YEARS AGO.
I THINK THE OTHER PIECE IS IF WE HEARD OUR STANDARDS OF COVER PRESENTATION, A COUPLE, GOSH, MAYBE LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE, JUST BASED ON THAT AND THE SIZE OF OUR POPULATION FROM 1982 TO NOW HAS DRASTICALLY CHANGED.
I THINK REMINDING OURSELVES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SIX PERMANENT FIRE STATIONS.
WE HAVE ONE THAT IS TEMPORARY AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, AT SOME POINT, HOPEFULLY NINE FIRE STATIONS IN ORDER FOR US TO GET UP TO THE POINT THAT WE COULD BE AT THE SERVICE LEVELS THAT WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING OUR COMMUNITY.
NOT TO SAY THAT OUR OUR POLICE AND FIRE DON'T ALREADY DO THAT.
THEY'RE DOING IT, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT DOUBLE TIME.
THIS ALLOWS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CLEARLY VALUE.
THAT'S PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE THIS DECISION FOR PEOPLE.
WE ARE PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT, AND OUR VOTERS GET TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THIS CHANGES.
SO TONIGHT WE ARE JUST DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A DECISION THAT WE'RE MAKING FOR THE PEOPLE.
THE PEOPLE WILL MAKE THIS DECISION FOR THEMSELVES.
AND THEN, WHO KNOWS, MAYBE IT'LL BE ANOTHER TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
IT'LL BE 52 YEARS PAST 1982, AND WE STILL WON'T HAVE MADE AN UPDATE.
SO I JUST THINK THAT TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
SO ONCE THE MAYOR MAKES HIS COMMENTS, I'LL BE MAKING THE MOTION TO SUPPORT THIS.
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3 MILLION IS EQUAL TO THE MILLION FROM HOWEVER MANY 20 PLUS YEARS AGO.BUT MY MY STRONGEST FEELING IS IN THE EXEMPTION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.
AND IF I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WHEN WE VOTE ON THIS, I'D LIKE TO SEPARATE THE TWO ONE AND TWO, THE INCREASE AND THE THE ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS AS BEING ONE VOTE AND THE EXEMPTION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES BEING ANOTHER VOTE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO US BREAKING IT INTO PIECES LIKE THAT? YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A BALLOT MEASURE.
NO, I'M NOT REFERRING TO ON THE BALLOT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT US COUNCIL DECIDING ON NUMBER ONE AND TWO AND THEN SEPARATELY ON NUMBER THREE.
IF THE COUNCIL SAYS YES ON BOTH, THEN IT'LL BE JUST EXACTLY THE WAY IT'S WORDED.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK SO.
SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING WE WOULD MAKE AN INITIAL MOTION FOR ONE AND TWO THE EXPENDITURE LIMIT INCREASE AND THE INCREASE IN THE INFLATION INDEX OR THE ADDITION OF THE INFLATION INDEX, TAKE A VOTE ON THAT AND THEN HAVE A SECOND VOTE ON NUMBER THREE.
IF BOTH OF THOSE PASSED, THIS COULD MOVE FORWARD.
AND I DON'T WANT THE WHOLE THING TO BE SHOT DOWN AS A GROUP.
AND WHEN MAYBE ITEM NUMBER THREE, ALL OF THE COUNCIL AGREES ON IF WE AGREE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, EXEMPTING PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES MINUS ONE AND TWO WILL NEED TO MODIFY THE PROPOSED BALLOT QUESTION AND THE LANGUAGE IN THERE.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF WE PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN.
OKAY. IDEAS FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MR. BHAT-PATEL. IF WE MAKE THE MOTION, IT DOESN'T PASS.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE MOST SIMPLE WAY OF DOING IT, BECAUSE.
WE DON'T KNOW YET WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL HAVE THE VOTES, BUT IF WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT ALONG, MAYBE WE WILL, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THE SEGMENTATION AND MAKE THEM GO BACK AND REDO THE WHOLE THING.
SO IS THAT SATISFACTORY? WE VOTE ON THE WHOLE THING.
IF IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN WE VOTE ON JUST NUMBER THREE.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE SIMPLEST APPROACH TO ME.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I'M READING WHAT CAME FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SENDING TO THE VOTERS A 3.09 MILLION CAP BASED ON $1 MILLION DECISION MADE IN 1982 THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY 1 MILLION WAS PICKED, BUT LOOKING AT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TODAY TO MAKE THIS REAL, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SENDING TO OUR VOTERS TO VOTE ON IT, 3.09 MILLION IS NOTHING.
IT IS NOT A CHANGE FROM THE 1 MILLION.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT I THINK THAT'S DISINGENUOUS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CIP THAT WE JUST APPROVED, THERE IS NOT, I DON'T THINK, A SINGLE PROJECT ON THERE. IF OUR VOTERS WENT WITH 3.09, THERE'S NO GAIN.
THERE IS NOT ONE PROJECT ON THERE.
I MIGHT BE SPEAKING A LITTLE OUT OF TURN.
SO TO ME, IF I'M GOING TO SEND SOMETHING TO OUR VOTERS, IT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING WHERE THEY GET TO TAKE A LOOK AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S THESE 20 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THESE IS GOING TO QUALIFY UNDER THE CHANGE THAT WE'RE MAKING.
AND SO THAT'S THAT'S MY PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THIS.
I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO RAISE THE CAP THE MILLION, WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT OUR CIP, RAISE IT TO $200 MILLION AND LOOK AT WHAT PROJECTS THEN THE VOTERS WOULD ACTUALLY BY APPROVING A $200 MILLION.
AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT NUMBER.
WHAT PROJECTS WOULD THEY ACTUALLY BE? BECAUSE THAT'S THE COST.
BY SENDING OUT 3.09 MILLION, THAT'S THE SAME AS LEAVING IT AT 1 MILLION.
THERE IS NOT ANY PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE APPROVED.
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IF I'M A VOTER, I'M GOING TO SIT THERE AND GO, WELL, WHY AM I VOTING ON 3.09? IT DOESN'T GET ME ANYTHING.IF THEY WOULD HAVE LEFT IT AT A MILLION.
THEN THE CITIZENS WANT TO MAKE A CHOICE ON THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
WHICH ONES DO THEY WANT TO VOTE ON AND WHICH ONES DO THEY NOT WANT TO VOTE ON? AND THROWING OUT 3.09 MATHEMATICALLY, IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
SO THAT'S THE VALID PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE 3.09.
IF YOU COULD SHOW ME SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS UNDER 3.09 THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERING AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, WHOA, MAYBE I, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I WOULD LIKE THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT.
THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH IT.
YEAH. AND I GUESS I WOULD JUST KIND OF DIG INTO.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING AT THE END OF THE DAY.
BUT THEN IF THEN IF THAT DOESN'T PASS AND WE GO ON TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY EXEMPTION, THEN WE'RE ASKING THEM TO LET US MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.
BUT. WE'RE ASKING THEM ALSO TO PAY OVER 100 GRAND SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THAT VOTE FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S NOT REALLY WHERE ALL OF THIS, IN MY EYES, FROM THE CARLSBAD TOMORROW, IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? CARLSBAD TOMORROW? FROM THAT GROUP, IN MY EYES, IT WAS MORE ABOUT ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THIS BALLOT QUESTION, AND ITEM NUMBER THREE CAME AS OUR DISCUSSION PROGRESSED ON COUNCIL, I THINK, AND THEN IT WAS RECOMMENDED FROM CARLSBAD TOMORROW AS WELL, RIGHT.
THE POLICE EXEMPTION OR THE PUBLIC SAFETY EXEMPTION.
THEY HAD RECOMMENDED THAT, RIGHT.
SO I GUESS I JUST DON'T, I JUST, I JUST DON'T SUPPORT THE FIRST TWO THINGS, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
I DO SEE MR. CROUCH. WERE YOU HERE TO ANSWER A QUESTION OR MAKE A COMMENT? HE'S GOING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION. OH, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT? AND THEN I CAN SPEAK AFTER? MY QUESTION WAS LAST TIME WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP THE SAME QUESTION WAS BROUGHT UP.
WHAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS DO YOU SEE ON THE HORIZON THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THAT $3.09 MILLION? AND YOU GAVE US AN ANSWER, BUT WOULD YOU REITERATE MAYBE MORE DETAIL? THANK YOU MAYOR. SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF, THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO PROP H INCREASING THE LIMIT TO $3.09 MILLION WOULD NOT ALLEVIATE THE NEED TO GO TO THE VOTERS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID IT IS NOT TO SAY THAT IN THE FUTURE THERE MIGHT BE PROJECTS THAT THE CITY BECOMES AWARE OF THAT WOULD FALL BETWEEN $1 MILLION AND 3.09 THAT WHEREBY THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO SAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND PROCEED WITH THOSE PROJECTS MORE TIMELY.
THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT, TOO, IS TYING IT TO AN INFLATIONARY INDEX.
I BELIEVE IN THE STAFF REPORT FROM JUNE 11TH.
IF THE CITY IF THE CITY COUNCIL WERE TO APPROVE PLACING IT ON THE BALLOT AND CARLSBAD VOTERS WERE TO PASS IT OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD, THAT LIMIT WOULD INCREASE TO, I BELIEVE IT WAS $4.7 MILLION.
AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE THEREAFTER.
SO WHILE IT'S TRUE WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY PROJECTS WHERE THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TODAY THERE COULD BE SITUATIONS IN THE FUTURE WHEREBY EFFICIENCIES COULD BE ACHIEVED.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF ZACH? JUST OF ZACH BECAUSE I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
SO THIS 3.09 MILLION COULD GO TOWARDS SOMETHING LIKE REMODELING, SAY THE SHULMAN AUDITORIUM OR THE CANNON ART GALLERY.
REMODELING SOMETHING UNDER THE $3 MILLION THRESHOLD.
IS THAT MORE LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY ACQUIRE REAL PROPERTY MUCH OR DEVELOP SOMETHING BRAND NEW FOR 3 MILLION OR EVEN FOR BUT A REMODEL OF A CITY FACILITY WOULD FALL WITHIN THAT, RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO..
YEAH. SO REHAB, REPLACEMENT REMODEL.
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BUT WE HAD TO TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS.DO WE STILL HAVE KYLE HERE BECAUSE THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT AND THIS IS THE FOOTPRINT IS CHANGING.
SO YEAH, IT'S A MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL REMODEL FOR THE AND I'LL, I'LL LET KYLE ADD ON.
BUT AS WELL FOR MONROE STREET POOL, THAT ONE INVOLVED THE EXPANSION OF THE USE OF THE FACILITY.
SO WE WERE ADDING ON NEW USES AND EXPANDING THE POOL.
IT WASN'T JUST A RENOVATION WE HAD PRESENTED.
A COUPLE, I THINK OF THEM AS LIKE THE, THE GOLD AND THE PLATINUM VERSIONS.
AND WITH THE BASE BEING A SIMPLE REFURBISHMENT OR THE EXPANSION.
KYLE LANCASTER, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
ALL OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID IS ACCURATE, AND WE PRESENT THREE CONCEPTS TO YOU PREVIOUSLY.
ULTIMATELY, COUNCIL OPT TO GO WITH CONCEPT THREE, WHICH IS THE MORE EXTENSIVE OF THE THREE.
AND AGAIN PROP H VOTE WAS PASSED.
I THINK IN THE I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
AND I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS MORE.
IF IF THIS GOES ON THE BALLOT, IT'S GOING TO COST A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.
IS IT ANY CHEAPER TO HAVE THIS ON THE BALLOT JUST ASKING FOR THE EXEMPTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, OR IT'S JUST THE SAME PRICE TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT FOR ALL THREE FOR ONE MEASURE, SAME PRICE.
NOW, IF YOU SPLIT THIS INTO TWO MEASURES, IT WOULD DOUBLE THE PRICE.
GOT IT. ANYTHING ELSE? HAVE WE BEATEN THIS TO DEATH? OKAY, THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS WRITTEN.
LET ME JUST ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL, JUST FOR CONSIDERATION.
LIKE I SAID, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ON ITEM THREE, THE EXEMPTION TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.
IF WE ASK FOR TOO MUCH, WILL THAT CAUSE THE RESIDENTS TO THEN SAY, NOW THEY'RE ASKING TOO MUCH? THE ANSWER IS NO.
OR IF WE JUST ASK FOR JUST THE EXEMPTION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, DO WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF THE RESIDENTS SAYING, YES? AND THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT THAT I'M TOYING WITH AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS FINAL VOTE.
ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? WELL, CONSIDERING WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY POLLING OF THE PUBLIC RELATIVE TO THIS ITEM, I WOULD THINK THAT THE CARLSBAD TOMORROW TEAM, WHERE WE'RE GETTING THIS SUGGESTION, WOULD THEY PROBABLY HAD SOME FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS FEELING.
BUT. I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VOTER ATTRITION OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
MEASURE WAS TO EXPLAIN WHY WE NEED TO EXEMPT PUBLIC SAFETY SO THAT VERBIAGE WILL LOOK ALL DIFFERENT.
I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION OUT OF CARLSBAD TOMORROW, AND I KNOW WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT WAS, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT WAS BOTH OF THESE THINGS. IT WAS INCREASING THE LIMIT TO TODAY'S DOLLARS OR MORE POTENTIALLY, AND EXEMPTING PUBLIC SAFETY.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN CONFIRM THAT THAT IS THE TRUTH? THAT IS SO.
SO PASSING THIS WHOLE THING IS TOTALLY ALIGNED WITH WHAT CAME OUT OF OUR BIG EFFORT FOR THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE CALLED CARLSBAD TOMORROW, AND I SUPPORT THAT.
THANKS. OKAY, LAST THOUGHT, MISS BHAT-PATEL.
YES. I JUST WANT TO BUILD ON THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, FOLKS WERE ASKING, WELL, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? THAT WAS A 19 MEMBER COMMITTEE WITH 19 ALTERNATES.
AND THIS WAS, OF COURSE, BROUGHT FORWARD DURING OUR BUDGETING PROCESS.
THERE WERE DEFINITELY PEOPLE THAT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.
SO THAT'S WHERE I FEEL COMFORTABLE BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
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ONE IS THAT IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE THE TEAM WE PUT TOGETHER TO MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT THIS IS NOT US MAKING THE DECISION.THIS IS GIVING THE VOTERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 3 TO 2.
AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR COUNCIL MEETING.
[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
FINAL COMMENTS, MISS BHAT-PATEL.ALL RIGHT, SO I HOPE I HOPE THAT THOSE THAT CELEBRATED FATHER'S DAY HAD A GREAT FATHER'S DAY.
WE DID HAVE IN THE LAST WEEK, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A NCTD RELATED MEETING I HAVE THIS WEEK.
I DO HAVE AN NCTD REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING, A POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING FOR LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES FOR THE TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNICATION AND PUBLIC WORKS POLICY COMMITTEE.
AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A JOINT TRANSPORTATION BORDERS AND REGIONAL MEETING FOR SANDAG.
THANK YOU. I WAS JUST DOUBLE CHECKING WHAT I HAVE GOING ON.
MOST OF MY REGIONAL APPOINTMENTS FOCUS HAS BEEN WATER.
WE'RE CONSERVING. BUT THE PRICE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CONTINUES TO RISE.
SO THAT IS MY FOCUS RIGHT NOW ON MY REGIONAL APPOINTMENTS.
THAT'S IT, MISS BURKHOLDER, THIS WEEK.
AT CHICK FIL A CARLSBAD WEST, RIBBON CUTTING AT 5848 AVENIDA ENCINAS IN CARLSBAD.
I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR THE SUPPORT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
THIS WAS AN EXCEPTIONALLY TOUGH BUDGET.
AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE CENTERED AROUND IT.
BUT AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR STRATEGIC DIRECTION ON THIS.
IT'S A LONG RUN, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU GUYS TAKING SOME MUCH NEEDED TIME OFF AND ENJOY THE TIME.
LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO CONCLUDE BY WE WE MADE SOME DIFFICULT BUDGET CHOICES, AND I JUST WANT TO SINCERELY THANK ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.
NOTHING FOR ME. THANK YOU, IT WAS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.