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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:06]

FIRE. CHIEF CALDERWOOD, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? PLEASE TAKE YOUR RIGHT HAND PLACED OVER YOUR HEART AND BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OUT FROM CLOSED SESSION? THERE WAS NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

I HAVE TO READ THE FOLLOWING.

THE BROWN ACT AND THE CITY'S MEETING RULES ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS ARE REGARDING MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.

AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS RELATE TO THE QUESTION OR MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION.

INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

THE COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS WHEN MAKING YOUR COMMENTS.

PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.

AND THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME.

PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THE 2.5 MINUTE MARK.

THE LIGHT ON THE PODIUM WILL TURN YELLOW.

AND THAT'S YOUR WARNING THAT YOU HAVE 30S.

I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE THREE MINUTES.

THAT WAY, EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK.

PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, MARY LUCID, FOLLOWED BY DIANA RICKER.

GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A CHEERY CROWD.

I'M SO GLAD I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I READ YOUR COMMUNITY VISION AND LO AND BEHOLD, YOU WANT ACCESS TO RECREATION AND ACTIVE, HEALTHY LIFESTYLES TO PROMOTE ALL RECREATIONAL AND YET YOU BAN A SENIOR CITIZEN FOR NINE MONTHS FOR WALKING AGGRESSIVELY.

CAN THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THEIR WISDOM.

AND I KNOW IT'S LOW PAY FOR YOU.

COULD YOU PLEASE TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ASK THEM TO WORK WITH PARK AND REC? BECAUSE SENIORS SHOULD NOT BE BANNED FROM ATTENDING THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND YES, THERE ARE OTHER SENIOR CENTERS WITHIN A NICE RADIUS.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT, IS IT? HOW DO YOU TREAT ELDER CITIZENS HERE IN CARLSBAD? USED TO BE THE GOLD STANDARD.

NOW YOU'RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HEAP.

NINE MONTHS.

YOU'D HAVE TO BE ALMOST A FELON.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, I AM NOT A FELON.

I DO HAVE A BIG MOUTH.

BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE OPINIONS OF SENIORS OR CITIZENS, WHY ARE YOU AT ON THIS JOB? WHY AREN'T YOU DOING MORE FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN ALL AREAS? BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF US THAT ARE OLDER AND THAT WOULD APPRECIATE A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE WELCOMED, NOT BANISHED FROM A SENIOR CENTER FOR NINE MONTHS.

PLEASE TELL ME THAT YOU FEEL THAT'S EXCESSIVE.

I'VE GOT HERE A PAPER THAT SAYS GOAL THREE INCLUSION AND NOT ISOLATION.

WELL, THAT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD, BUT YOU'RE NOT LIVING UP TO IT AND YOU'RE NOT UPHOLDING THE STANDARDS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

AND YOU'RE THE ONES, INCLUDING THE LEGAL EAGLES WHO ARE VIOLATING CIVIL RIGHTS.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

AND YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

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SO I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD CHECK IN WITH KYLE LANCASTER, MICK CALARCO AND ESPECIALLY THE SILLY LITTLE LADY WHO FEELS THAT I'M A DANGER TO SOCIETY, WHO WROTE UP.

SHE WALKS AGGRESSIVELY.

BS IS BS.

AND IF YOU CAN'T RECOGNIZE IT IN YOUR PROFESSION, YOU'RE IN DEEP TROUBLE.

SO PLEASE TALK TO PARK AND REC.

PLEASE CLARIFY THAT AND MAKE THE SENIOR CENTER FRIENDLIER TO ALL SENIORS.

THANK YOU.

MR. SPEAKER.

I'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES.

MY NAME IS DIANA RICKER, AND I'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE PRIOR TO COVID.

I'M A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND PRIOR TO COVID.

I WAS TOLD BY A PROFESSIONAL COMPUTER PLACE THAT MY DEVICE WAS COMPROMISED.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAD EVER HEARD THE WORD COMPROMISED.

I SAID, WELL, CAN YOU FIX IT? AND THEY SAID, NO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET RID OF YOUR PHONE ALTOGETHER.

AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WELL, I CAN'T DO THAT.

I'M STILL PAYING ON IT TODAY.

NOT ME, NOR ANY OTHER CITIZEN THAT I KNOW OF ANYWHERE IN AMERICA CAN FIND OUT IF THEIR DEVICES HAVE BEEN HACKED.

WE ALSO CANNOT FIND OUT IF A TRACKING DEVICE IS IN OUR VEHICLE.

THERE IS NO RESOURCE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO AND PROVE THAT THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING TO US.

I CAN'T, I'M NOT A CELEBRITY.

I'M NOT WEALTHY, I'M NOT A HIGH PROFILE CASE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVIDENCE THAT MY DEVICE HAS BEEN HACKED.

IF I DON'T HAVE THAT EVIDENCE, HOW CAN.

HOW CAN THE POLICE ENFORCE MY SECURITY? WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GO? WHERE DO WE GO? OR IS IT JUST EASIER TO SAY YOU'RE NOT BEING HACKED? YOU'RE. YOU'RE MAKING IT UP.

YOU'RE PARANOID.

THERE'S SO MANY OF US.

TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY IS.

THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE.

THERE'S SO MANY BAD PEOPLE IN BUSINESSES AND BANKS AND HOSPITALS THAT HAVE BEEN HACKED.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THOSE HACKERS DO ON THEIR OFF TIME? DO YOU NOT THINK THAT THEY HAVE A SOCIAL LIFE? DO YOU NOT THINK THAT THEY GET INVOLVED WITH ROMANTIC PARTNERS RELATIONSHIPS? WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT THEY DO ON THEIR OFF TIME? WE NEED TO FIND WE NEED RESOURCES.

THOSE RESOURCES DON'T EXIST.

SO WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GO? NO ANSWER.

MA'AM, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

WE DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS.

WE DON'T TAKE ACTION ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY, WELL, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS NO PLACE.

THERE IS NO PLACE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO TAKE MY DEVICE OR TAKE MY VEHICLE.

I'M NOT A HIGH PROFILE CASE.

I CAN'T AFFORD 25 $30,000 TO DO A SWEEP OF MY HOME OR HAVE MY VEHICLE FIXED.

I MEAN, I'M CHECKED MR. [INAUDIBLE]. THERE'S A POLICE LIEUTENANT STANDING RIGHT BY THE BACK DOOR.

WOULD YOU PLEASE TALK TO HIM AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING HE CAN OFFER FOR SUGGESTIONS? PEGGY WALKER, FOLLOWED BY MADISON RAPP.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WE WORK IN YOUTH DRUG, TOBACCO, ALCOHOL, MARIJUANA AND OTHER DRUG USE PREVENTION.

TOBACCO IS A TIMELY TOPIC AND I CAME BECAUSE OF MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

HAVING WATCHED MY MOTHER IN LAW DIE FROM TOBACCO RELATED LUNG CANCER, I SUBSEQUENTLY WENT INTO RESEARCH AND THEN WROTE SOME 25 TOBACCO USE PREVENTION EDUCATION GRANTS FOR SCHOOLS.

SO IT'S A SUBJECT THAT IS CLOSE TO ME.

RECENTLY, MY ORGANIZATION, WE HOLD ON FOR JUST ONE MOMENT.

IS IT OKAY IF SHE SPEAKS AT THIS TIME?

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AT YOUR DISCRETION, MAYOR. ARE YOU ADDRESSING ITEM NUMBER EIGHT OR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT IS A COUNTY.

OKAY. AND THAT'S FINE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SMOKING ORDINANCE AS OUR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

SO THE CONCERN WAS, ARE YOU SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT OR PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU'RE SPEAKING ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

PLEASE RESUME AND PLEASE GIVE HER TIME.

SOME EXTRA TIME BECAUSE OF MY INTERRUPTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. MY POINT THAT I WAS GETTING TO IS THAT MY ORGANIZATION HAS RECENTLY WATCHED BIG TOBACCO AND BIG MARIJUANA MERGED TO PRODUCE AN UNPRECEDENTED VAPING EPIDEMIC.

THIS EPIDEMIC IS NO SURPRISE BECAUSE E-CIGS, VAPES AND FLAVORED VAPE JUICES ARE POPULAR CHOICES OF YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULTS.

THEY ARE UNFORTUNATELY MARKETED DIRECTLY TO YOUNG AUDIENCES, ALLOWING BOTH OF THESE INDUSTRIES TO PROFIT FROM AN EPIDEMIC THEY STARTED.

SO JUST AS THE HEALTH RISKS OF TOBACCO AND MARIJUANA AND THEIR SMOKE AND VAPOR CANNOT BE OVERLOOKED, NOR CAN THE PROBLEMATIC ABUNDANCE OF ILLEGAL E-CIGS AND VAPE, BEING THAT ASSESSMENT SHOWS ARE BEING SOLD IN LOCAL SMOKE SHOPS, GAS STATIONS AND MINI MARKETS, OFTEN WITHOUT AGE CHECKS.

AND WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THESE ILLEGAL NON-FDA APPROVED PRODUCTS IS VERY DIFFICULT.

WHEN ONE IS PULLED, ANOTHER POPS UP.

MANY ARE MANUFACTURED IN CHINA, WHICH BANS THEM IN THEIR COUNTRY BUT ALLOWS THEM TO BE EXPORTED HERE TO POISON OUR CHILDREN.

SO I CAME TO CALL ATTENTION TO THIS PROBLEM, AND TO ALERT YOU THAT IT HAS LED, IN PART TO A COUNTY GRAND JURY CALL FOR A REPORT ON THE COUNTY WIDE IMPACT OF MARIJUANA, INCLUDING VAPING, ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, CHILDREN AND SENIORS.

I ALSO DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS AREA AND FOR PROTECTING PEOPLE'S RIGHTS TO INHALE FRESH AIR INSTEAD OF SOMEONE ELSE'S TOBACCO SMOKE OR VAPE VAPING VAPOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HELLO. MY NAME IS MADISON RAPP.

I'M A MOTHER OF THREE, INCLUDING A NINE MONTH OLD BABY, HAVING HAD THREE PREGNANCIES IN THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.

I CARE ABOUT PROMOTING HEALTHY PREGNANCY AND INFANT CARE, AND I'M HERE TO OUTLINE THE DANGERS AND HARMS ASSOCIATED WITH CANNABIS USE DURING PREGNANCY AND BREASTFEEDING.

MARIJUANA IS THE MOST COMMONLY USED DRUG OF ABUSE DURING PREGNANCY IN THE UNITED STATES, WITH SELF-REPORTED USE UP TO 5% FOR ALL WOMEN AND 15 TO 28% AMONG WOMEN WHO ARE YOUNG, URBAN, AND SOCIOECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED.

NOTABLY, 34 TO 60% OF MARIJUANA USERS CONTINUE THEIR USE DURING PREGNANCY.

SOME PATIENTS USE IT FOR ITS NAUSEA RELIEVING PROPERTIES DURING PREGNANCY AND BELIEVE IT IS SAFE.

THE REALITY IS, MORE THAN 500 CHEMICALS FOUND IN MARIJUANA, INCLUDING THE MIND ALTERING COMPOUND THC, CAN PASS THROUGH A WOMAN'S PLACENTA TO THE DEVELOPING FETUS DURING PREGNANCY AND TO A BABY THROUGH BREAST MILK.

AFFECTING THE GROWING INFANT MORE AND MORE STUDIES ARE SHOWING A SIGNIFICANT RISK OF CANNABIS USE DURING PREGNANCY, AND ALL ARE GIVING THE SAME WARNING.

CANNABIS USE DURING PREGNANCY IS NOT SAFE.

INFANTS BORN TO WOMEN WHO USE MARIJUANA DURING PREGNANCY WERE MORE LIKELY TO REQUIRE NICU SAFE STAYS, HAD LOWER BIRTH WEIGHTS, HIGHER STILLBIRTH RATES, AND LOWER APGAR SCORES. THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNECOLOGISTS RECOMMENDS THAT DOCTORS DISCOURAGE CANNABIS USE DURING PREGNANCY AND LACTATION.

HAVING HAD A BABY RECENTLY, IT MEANS A LOT TO ME TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THESE FACTS, AND I HOPE THAT ANY WOMAN LISTENING WHO IS PREGNANT OR BREASTFEEDING WILL BETTER UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF THEIR DECISIONS ON THEIR DEVELOPING BABY.

THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON ITEM THREE.

IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? YES. ONLY NUMBER THREE IS ONLY ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

LET'S TAKE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ITEMS ONE, TWO, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX.

COUNCIL WISH TO PULL ANY OF THOSE.

OKAY. MOTION FOR THOSE SO MOVED.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, CITY MANAGER.

[3. CITY COUNCIL CODE OF ETHICS AND PUBLIC SERVICE VALUES]

WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THAT? SO PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING, THE AUDIENCE KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING? YES, SIR. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS THE CITY COUNCIL CODE OF ETHICS AND PUBLIC SERVICE VALUES.

ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION AFFIRMING THE CITY COUNCIL CODE OF ETHICS AND PUBLIC SERVICE VALUES, AS PROPOSED AT THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD ON JULY 16TH, 2024.

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WOULD COUNCIL DESIRE A PRESENTATION? DOES ANYBODY WANT A PRESENTATION? OKAY. PLEASE CALL THE SPEAKERS.

MARY LUCID, FOLLOWED BY GENE WALKER.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

I THINK IT'S VERY BRAVE OF YOU ALL TO HAVE AN ITEM ON ETHICS, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEMS SENIORS ARE HAVING.

SO I'M THRILLED.

I HOPE THAT LEADS TO YOU TALKING TO MICK CALARCO AND THE STAFF AT THE SENIOR CENTER, AND THE SENIORS WHO WOULD LIKE TO ENJOY THE PLEASURE OF SITTING AROUND TALKING TO OTHER SENIORS AND LAUGHING AND COMPARING NOTES.

WHY ANYONE WOULD BE MISTREATED BY PARKS AND REC STAFFERS IS A MYSTERY TO ME. BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T ROCK AND ROLL AND DEAL WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WHY AREN'T YOU WORKING BEHIND A CALCULATOR OR IN A FINANCE OFFICE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN BE ANNOYING.

BUT I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE IN GREAT MOODS AND NEVER GET EXCITED OR WORK UNDER STRESS. BUT I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD WORK ON TALKING TO PARK AND REC.

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT? HOW LEGAL IS IT TO BAN A SENIOR FROM THE SENIOR CENTER FOR NINE MONTHS FOR WALKING AGGRESSIVELY? HEY, IF YOU GOT IT, FLAUNT IT.

BUT DON'T SLANDER A SENIOR AND DENY THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE LUNCH WITH THEIR FRIENDS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE HERE AT THE END OF NINE MONTHS.

NOT BECAUSE OF ME, JUST THE WAY IT IS.

OLD AGE CREEPS UP ON ALL OF US.

MAYBE ONE OF THESE DAYS YOU TWO WILL FIGURE OUT THAT SENIORS DESERVE A LITTLE BIT MORE PATIENCE.

POSSIBLY. AND DEFINITELY MORE SERVICES THAN THEY'RE RECEIVING NOW AT THE CARLSBAD SENIOR CENTER, WHICH USED TO HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION.

SO THAT'S ON YOU.

MAYOR BLACKBURN, THAT'S ON YOU, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WHEN YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO TALK TO PARKS AND REC, AND YET YOU'RE RUNNING FOR REELECTION WHEN YOU CAN IF YOU'RE NOT APPOINTED.

BUT WHATEVER.

DO YOUR BEST, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

HELLO. COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT BACK ON ANY TRAVEL INVOLVING TAXPAYER FUNDING.

FOR ETHICAL REASONS.

THAT REPORTING REQUIREMENT SHOULD BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ANY VOTES TAKEN AS A MEMBER OF AN ORGANIZATION FUNDED WITH TAX DOLLARS.

CARLSBAD PAID $30,959 IN DUES ALONE TO THE CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF CITIES IN 2020.

FOR ONCE, TRAVEL AND OTHER EXPENSES ARE CALCULATED.

THOSE COSTS APPROACH $50,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES EVENTS.

COUNCIL, MEMBERS, ACOSTA, AND BHAT-PATEL ARE BOTH VOTING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THIS ORGANIZATION.

ALL VOTES TAKEN AT LEAGUE OF CITIES ARE UNRECORDED.

VOICE VOTES.

ADDITIONALLY, THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THIS ORGANIZATION ARE REQUIRED TO VOTE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AS A WHOLE, NOT BASED ON WHAT IS BEST FOR CARLSBAD. THIS ALONE SHOULD PROHIBIT BOARD MEMBERSHIP FOR ANY CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AS AN OBVIOUS CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

IN 2024, THIS COUNCIL DECIDED TO TAKE A NO POSITION STANCE ON PROPOSITION ONE, WHICH WOULD BRING WINDSOR POINT STYLE HOUSING STATEWIDE WITH NO

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LOCAL CONTROL.

CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF CITIES VOTED TO SUPPORT PROPOSITION ONE.

COUNCIL, MEMBERS, ACOSTA AND BHAT-PATEL NEVER DISCLOSED THEIR VOTE ON THIS ISSUE AS VOICE VOTES ARE NOT RECORDED.

THESE VOTES NEED TO BE RECORDED AND REPORTED BACK TO COUNCIL.

IF A VOTE WAS CAST IN SUPPORT, THAT WOULD CONFLICT WITH THE CITY'S OFFICIAL POSITION.

CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF CITIES EVENTS ARE SPONSORED BY VARIOUS BUSINESSES WHO THEN BID FOR CONTRACTS IN CARLSBAD.

THESE COMPANIES WINE AND DINE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

LAST YEAR, KB HOMES WAS NAMED THE CORPORATE SPONSOR OF THE YEAR FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES LATINO CAUCUS, ON WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA SITS, CREATING A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. IF KB HOMES WANTS TO DEVELOP PROPERTY IN CARLSBAD WITHOUT REPORTING, NO ONE WOULD KNOW THIS CONFLICT EXISTED.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA STATES ON HER FORM 700 THAT BENEFITS RECEIVED AT THESE EVENTS ARE NOT GIFTS, BUT RATHER INCOME FOR HER VOLUNTEER SERVICES.

SHE HAS CLAIMED OVER $2,000 IN INCOME FROM THESE EVENTS JUST IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, NOT DISCLOSING WHAT WAS RECEIVED OR FROM WHOM.

WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS ATTEND THESE EVENTS, THEY SHOULD REPORT BACK THE SPONSORS, THE SPECIFIC ITEMS RECEIVED, THE VALUE OF FOOD, BEVERAGE, TICKETS, ETC.

I AM VERY SURPRISED.

SURPRISED THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS NOT COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA ON THE PROPER HANDLING OF THIS ISSUE, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IN THE CITY LEAGUE OF CITIES BYLAWS, ARTICLE SEVEN, SECTION 11, IT SPECIFICALLY STATES BOARD MEMBERS DO NOT RECEIVE COMPENSATION FOR THEIR SERVICES SO THERE COULD BE NO INCOME.

THERE ARE MANY ADVANTAGES TO MEMBERSHIP AND ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, BUT IF TAXPAYER MONEY IS FUNDING THAT MEMBERSHIP, WE SHOULD KNOW HOW OUR ELECTED LEADERS ARE VOTING ON ISSUES ADDRESSED.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS AN ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION.

DO WE HAVE. I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY. OH.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ME BACK, I APPRECIATE IT.

SO ITEM NUMBER THREE, ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.

MISS BURKHOLDER. YEAH.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I THINK THIS IS A TIMELY ISSUE.

I WAS JUST HOPING THAT AS A COUNCIL, WE COULD DISCUSS WHAT CAME OUT IN A MEMO EARLIER RELATIVE TO VERBIAGE IN THE CODE OF ETHICS SURROUNDING THE COUNCIL PERSON'S COURTESY OF CONTACTING A MEMBER IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE AND DOING A PRESENTATION OR HOLDING AN EVENT OR MAKING A SPEECH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE I'VE OBSERVED THAT IT'S GONE BOTH WAYS, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE STILL WANTED TO KEEP THAT LANGUAGE IN THE CODE OF ETHICS OR WE DIDN'T.

BUT I'D LOVE JUST TO HAVE THE FEEDBACK AND THE DISCUSSION SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE SIGNING.

ANY FEEDBACK? MISS LUNA? ANY.

MISS. MISS ACOSTA.

SURE, I'LL SHARE.

I DO RECALL WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THAT LANGUAGE THAT THE MAYOR AND I WERE BOTH WORKING AT AN EVENT THAT WAS IN MY AREA, AND WE WORKED IT OUT, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, SO IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF COMMUNICATING, AND I THINK IT WAS ALL WORKED OUT.

BUT IT WAS NICE TO HAVE THE WORDS LIKE WRITTEN DOWN IN THE CODE SO THAT IT WASN'T A PROBLEM EVEN BEFORE, BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER, BUT IT WAS HELPFUL TO HAVE IT IN THE IN WRITING.

MISS BHAT-PATEL SURE, I CAN ASK A QUESTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE VERBIAGE, WHICH IS I CAN I KEEP OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH MY FELLOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN SPEAKING OR MAKING PRESENTATIONS IN OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DISTRICTS? THIS IS WITH REGARDS TO WHEN WE ARE IN OUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THIS CODE OF ETHICS DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU IN YOUR PERSONAL CAPACITY.

GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL.

AND MY $0.02 IS IF I'M CAMPAIGNING AND I DO A FUNDRAISING EVENT IN SOMEBODY'S GARAGE IN SOMEBODY'S DISTRICT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE CALLING THEM AND TELLING THEM I'M DOING IT.

BUT IF I'M GOING TO HAVE A TOWN HALL MEETING, GETTING INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY, I THINK IT'S JUST A COURTESY TO CALL THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHOSE DISTRICT THAT IS AND JUST LET THEM KNOW NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO EXTEND AN INVITATION, BUT JUST TO LET THEM KNOW.

MAY I REPLY? YES, MA'AM.

SO I THINK THEN, BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE HAD, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE EVEN IF WE'RE NOT IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY, WE ARE PUBLIC FIGURES, WE'RE PUBLIC FACING.

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SO PERHAPS THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED INTO THE LANGUAGE SO THAT WE ALL DO KNOW.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A COURTESY CALL FOR SURE, BUT I JUST KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN GOING ON.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY YOUR INPUT.

SO IF I'M RUNNING FOR A COUNCIL SEAT AND I HAVE A FUNDRAISER AT BOB'S HOUSE AND AT BOB'S HOUSE IS IN YOUR DISTRICT, I NEED TO TELL YOU THAT I'M DOING THAT, I THINK WHAT THE WHAT? I UNDERSTOOD THE CITY ATTORNEY.

IT WAS JUST AS YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY.

IF YOU'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, YOU'RE CAMPAIGNING.

THAT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY DEAL.

OKAY? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

OKAY. I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO YOUR THOUGHTS.

SO DO YOU HAVE A? DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? CITY ATTORNEY? DO YOU WANT TO EXTEND THIS TO PEOPLE'S PERSONAL CAPACITY? NO, THAT'S WHAT I.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE HOSTING AN EVENT OR DOING SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT'S IN YOUR PERSONAL CAPACITY, BUT YOU'RE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S DISTRICT, I THINK A COURTESY CALL WOULD BE IN PLACE.

I AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN I SAID THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE AN OBJECTION ONLY IF I'M ACTING ON MY, SAY, LIKE A TOWN HALL MEETING WHERE I'M ASKING THE COMMUNITY TO COME GIVE ME INPUT.

BUT EACH TIME I JUST HAVE A GATHERING FOR A FUNDRAISER, I DON'T THINK THAT I NEED TO TELL YOU IF IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, MISS BHAT-PATEL.

YEAH, AND I'M SURE WE'RE ALL HAVING, LIKE, BIRTHDAY PARTIES OR OTHER EVENTS THAT WE'RE HOSTING.

IF IT'S IN OUR PERSONAL CAPACITY AND IT'S NOT OFFICIALLY ON CITY BUSINESS, I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE ALERTING EVERYONE.

HEY, BY THE WAY, MY KID'S HAVING A BIRTHDAY PARTY NEXT WEEK.

JUST FYI, IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT.

I DON'T THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCLOSED.

MISS ACOSTA, THANK YOU.

I ALSO, I WAS THINKING OF OTHER CAVEATS.

I THINK WE ALL HAVE EVENTS IN OTHER PEOPLE'S AREAS THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY HERE IS INVITED TO AN EVENT AT THE OMNI LA COSTA.

IT'S IN MY DISTRICT, BUT I DON'T EXPECT A HEADS UP.

YOU'RE GOING TO AN EVENT IN YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND MAYBE I WASN'T INVITED, BUT YOU WERE, AND IT'S IN MY AREA.

YOU DON'T NEED TO GIVE ME A HEADS UP.

YOU'RE JUST GOING TO AN EVENT LIKE AN ASSOCIATION EVENT OR A GALA OR SOMETHING.

THAT'S IN MY DISTRICT. I DON'T NEED A HEADS UP.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY AREA, AND IT'S ABOUT BEING RESPECTFUL AND THAT'S WE TRY TO KIND OF PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN HERE, LIKE JUST BEING A GOOD COMMUNICATOR AND RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER'S KIND OF DISTRICTS AND TERRITORIES.

BUT SOME OF THIS IS REALLY HARD TO CAPTURE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE THESE JUDGMENT CALLS SOMETIMES IN THE GRAY AREA.

I KNOW I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I, AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A GRAY AREA, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, TO SAY THAT MY OBSERVATIONS HAVE BEEN THAT THIS IS NOT HAPPENING THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN HERE, AND I DON'T LIKE SIGNING MY NAME TO SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY ISN'T HAPPENING THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.

SO THAT'S ALL.

AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THANK YOU. SO, COUNCIL, JUST TO GIVE CLARIFICATION, THE AUDIENCE IS LISTENING AND WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON.

I'LL JUST GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS CAME FROM.

I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK AT A HOA GROUP AT A MOBILE HOME PARK.

IT HAPPENED TO BE IN MS. ACOSTA'S DISTRICT, AND I DID NOT TELL HER I WAS GOING TO DO THAT, SINCE THAT IS HER DISTRICT AND THAT IS WORKING AS MY PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT CRIME AND TRAFFIC IN THAT FOR THAT HOA.

AND I DID NOT INVITE MISS ACOSTA.

SHE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT MAYBE IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IN THE FUTURE THAT IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING IN A PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY, THAT WE LET THAT DISTRICT COUNCIL PERSON KNOW, AND THEN THEN WE CAN NEGOTIATE WHETHER SHE'S AN INVITED GUEST OR NOT.

BUT AT LEAST SHE WOULD KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

IT WAS MY OVERSIGHT, AND THE HOA GLADLY INVITED MISS ACOSTA TO PARTICIPATE IN IT ALSO.

BUT THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION, AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME CLARITY TO IT.

AND SO, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IF YOU DID WANT TO ADJUST THE CODE OF ETHICS, THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION, I WOULD OFFER THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT OR THE FOLLOWING REPLACEMENT LANGUAGE.

I KEEP OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH MY FELLOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN SPEAKING OR MAKING PRESENTATIONS, AND THEN THIS WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE OR WHEN HOSTING EVENTS AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DISTRICTS, WOULD THAT I DON'T WANT THAT TO EXTEND TO WHEN, JUST TO BE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT EXTENDING TO FUNDRAISING EVENTS FOR ELECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN I'M FINE WITH IT.

MISS BHAT-PATEL.

YES. THANK YOU. AND IF WE COULD, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY EXPLICIT, IF WE COULD ALSO SAY IN OUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY INSTEAD OF AS A CITY COUNCIL, I MEAN, AS WE HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY EXPLICIT, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN IN YOUR IN, IN OUR I GUESS THE

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WAY THAT WOULD BE WORDED HERE IN OUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY.

YES. THANK YOU.

SO MOVED.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. OH.

I'M SORRY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. WE'RE.

WE JUMPED AROUND. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

[7. ORDINANCE NOS. CS-473 AND CS-474 AMENDING TITLE 8, TITLE 11, TITLE 15 AND TITLE 21 OF THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE]

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN OR ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT HAS NO SPEAKERS.

[8. ORDINANCE NO. CS-475 ADDING CHAPTER 6.15 TO THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE TO PROHIBIT SMOKING IN MULTI-UNIT RESIDENCES]

BUT I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THAT.

THIS IS THE ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS SMOKING IN MULTI-FAMILY HOMES.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT GOT BROUGHT UP FROM THE COMMUNITY SINCE WE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE COUNCIL IS WHAT ABOUT MEDICAL MARIJUANA FOR, SAY, FOR INSTANCE, SOMEONE WHO HAS CANCER? SO I ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THAT.

AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLEASE ELABORATE ON THAT WITH THE ADA ISSUES? YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO THAT WOULD BE AN ADA ISSUE.

HOWEVER, THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AND ITS STATE COUNTERPART DOES NOT REQUIRE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION FOR ANYTHING THAT POSES A HEALTH AND SAFETY RISK TO OTHER PARTIES. SO MY SUGGESTION FOR THIS IS I USED TO THINK THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA AS THEIR EXCUSE TO SMOKE MARIJUANA, UNTIL I HAD A CLOSE RELATIVE WHO HAD CANCER AND ASSURED ME THAT THE SMOKING OF THE MARIJUANA REALLY DID TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THE SYMPTOMS OF THE CANCER.

SO I DON'T WANT TO TELL CANCER VICTIMS YOU CANNOT USE THE THC IN YOUR HOME.

THEY'RE CANCER VICTIMS. WE CAN'T SAY, GO TAKE A WALK UP THE STREET.

THEY'RE SUFFERING FROM CANCER.

SO I WANT TO FIND OUT FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IF YOU WANT TO DO A CARVEOUT FOR LEGITIMATE MEDICAL MARIJUANA, IN THIS CASE.

MRS. ACOSTA.

THANK YOU. THIS THIS QUESTION CAME UP FOR ME AS WELL TO ME AS WELL FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND I ALSO LOOKED INTO IT.

BUT I THINK THE QUESTION THAT WE ADDRESSED WITH THIS ORDINANCE IS ABOUT SMOKE AND IT'S ABOUT PARTICULATES IN THE AIR, SECOND HAND AND THIRD HAND SMOKE.

AND IF THERE'S A CHILD IN THE APARTMENT NEXT DOOR, WILL THAT SMOKE AFFECT THEM THROUGH THIS SHARED VENTILATION SYSTEM THAT MULTI-UNIT HOUSING HAS, AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL. IT'S ABOUT SMOKE.

IT'S ABOUT THE PARTICULATES IN THE AIR.

SO THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO INGEST THC OR CANNABIS.

AND IT'S NOT SMOKING WHERE YOU'RE GETTING IT IN THE AIR AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT, INHALING IT AND BREATHING THAT IN.

SO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOOD WITHOUT THE CARVE OUT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? NOT ABOUT THAT. BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE THINGS.

OKAY. PLEASE. THANK YOU.

AFTER WE TOOK THIS I KNOW THIS IS SECOND READING, BUT AFTER WE TOOK THIS UP, I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL, WHICH I'M REALIZING RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T THINK I SENT TO THE CLERK TO PUT IN THE RECORD.

SORRY. I CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THIS, THOUGH.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TALK THIS OVER A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S MORE ABOUT THE LEGAL SIDE OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

THIS INDIVIDUAL FINDS IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT A GOVERNMENT AGENCY CAN REQUIRE A PRIVATE CORPORATION TO ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE AGAINST ANY OF ITS BOARD MEMBERS, EMPLOYEES OR STOCKHOLDERS. COULD WE EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT? YES. THE COUNCIL OR THE COUNCIL HAS WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS POLICE POWERS THAT DO.

SORRY. THE COUNCIL HAS WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS POLICE POWER.

IT'S YOUR REGULATORY AUTHORITY.

AND YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE REGULATIONS THAT PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

EXCELLENT. ONE OTHER POINT.

THE LARGEST ISSUE SEEN BY THIS INDIVIDUAL IS FOR POTENTIAL LIABILITY WHEN A MAJOR FIRE OCCURS AND THE INSURANCE CARRIER DENIES COVERAGE TO THE CONDO ASSOCIATION, FOR EXAMPLE, DUE TO A BOARD'S FAILURE TO HAVE A TIMELY ENFORCED THE CODE FOR NONSMOKING OR NO SMOKING AGAINST THE VIOLATOR.

SO HOW WOULD A SCENARIO LIKE THAT PLAY OUT? SO A BOARD FAILS TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE AND THERE'S A FIRE.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE LIABILITY ON BEHALF OF THE BUILDING OWNER.

I SEE NO LIABILITY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED CLARIFICATION ON.

THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

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MOTION. MOVE.

ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 4 TO 1 WITH MISS BURKHOLDER'S.

COMMENTS. ITEM NUMBER NINE, CITY

[9. RESUSCITATION OUTCOMES, 2023-2024]

MANAGER. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS THE RESUSCITATION OUTCOMES FOR 23 AND 24.

MEGAN, OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS OUR FIRE DIVISION CHIEF NATE PEARSON, ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH NURSE CHRISTINA GILMORE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THE OUTCOMES OF RESUSCITATION EFFORTS FOR CARDIAC ARREST VICTIMS IN OUR CITY.

WHILE THIS MAY SOUND LIKE AN OMINOUS TOPIC, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT DUE TO EFFORTS ACROSS THE CITY, WE ARE SEEING FEWER TRAGIC OUTCOMES AND MORE STORIES OF SUCCESS THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS AND ARE DOING VERY WELL COMPARED TO THE NATIONAL AND REGIONAL AVERAGES.

TONIGHT WE'LL COVER A BRIEF REVIEW OF CARDIAC ARREST, CPR, AND SOME OF THE IMPORTANT SKILLS USED IN THIS LIFE SAVING PROCESS.

WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENT.

HOW THIS DATA IS EVALUATED WILL PROVIDE A BRIEF OPERATIONAL UPDATE AND A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE POSITIVE OUTCOMES THAT WE HAVE SEEN THROUGH THESE EFFORTS.

THE ONLY PROPOSED ACTION FOR TONIGHT IS TO RECEIVE THIS INFORMATIONAL REPORT AND TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION, I'D LIKE TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO COMMUNITY HEALTH NURSE CHRISTINA GILMORE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF PIERSON, MAYOR BLACKBURN, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY MANAGER.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS INFORMATION AS A COMMUNITY HEALTH NURSE.

THIS TOPIC IS PARTICULARLY SIGNIFICANT TO ME.

THIS REPORT EVALUATES HOW EFFECTIVELY OUR COMMUNITY HANDLES EMERGENCY CARE FOR INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CARDIAC ARREST, WE'RE REFERRING TO A SITUATION WHERE THE HEART HAS STOPPED BEATING AND THE PERSON IS UNRESPONSIVE, NOT BREATHING, AND HAS NO PULSE.

THIS MEANS THE INDIVIDUAL HAS CLINICALLY DIED, AND WITHOUT PROMPT INTERVENTION, THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE.

DESPITE THE VARIOUS CAUSES OF SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST, THE TREATMENT IS THE SAME CARDIOPULMONARY RESUSCITATION, CPR, AUTOMATIC EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATION, AED, AND ONCE EMS HAS ARRIVED, ADDITIONAL ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT CPR INVOLVES APPLYING COMPRESSIONS TO THE CENTER OF THE CHEST WHEN DOING SO CORRECTLY, MEANING AT THE CORRECT LOCATION, DEPTH AND RATE THE COMPRESSIONS MAINTAIN SOME BLOOD FLOW TO THE BODY, INCLUDING THE BRAIN, EVEN IF THE HEART HAS STOPPED BEATING.

IN ADDITION TO CPR, AEDS UTILIZE ELECTRICITY TO PROVIDE A SHOCK TO THE HEART THAT SOMETIMES WILL ALLOW THE HEART TO RETURN TO A NORMAL RHYTHM.

UNFORTUNATELY, NATIONAL DATA INDICATES THAT FEWER THAN 10% OF OUT-OF-HOSPITAL CARDIAC ARRESTS RESULT IN SURVIVAL.

HOWEVER, STUDIES CONSISTENTLY SHOW THAT PROMPT AND EFFECTIVE BYSTANDER CPR CAN SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE SURVIVAL RATES, DOUBLING OR EVEN TRIPLING THE CHANCES OF RECOVERY.

ADDITIONALLY, QUICK ACCESS TO 911 AND TIMELY RESPONSE BY EMS ARE CRUCIAL FOR SUCCESSFUL TREATING.

FOR SUCCESSFULLY TREATING CARDIAC ARREST, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NOT ALL CARDIAC ARRESTS ARE TREATED WITH RESUSCITATION EFFORTS BY EMS. THERE ARE CASES WHERE FAMILY MEMBERS OR CAREGIVERS PRESENT LEGAL DOCUMENTS INDICATING THAT THE PATIENT DOES NOT WISH TO RECEIVE CPR IF THEIR HEART STOPS.

IN SUCH CASES, HONORING THE INDIVIDUAL'S WISHES IS THE PRIORITY.

ADDITIONALLY, IF CARDIAC ARREST WAS UNWITNESSED AND TOO MUCH TIME HAS PASSED, THERE MAY BE SIGNS THAT INDICATE RESUSCITATION EFFORTS ARE FUTILE.

IN THESE SITUATIONS, EMS PERSONNEL FOCUS ON PROVIDING EMOTIONAL SUPPORT TO FAMILY AND LOVED ONES.

OUTSIDE OF THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, ONCE EMS ARRIVES ON SCENE OF A CARDIAC ARREST, ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT MEASURES ARE IMPLEMENTED.

WHILE CPR REMAINS THE PRIMARY FOCUS, PARAMEDICS WILL ALSO PERFORM ADVANCED PROCEDURES INCLUDING AIRWAY INTUBATION, DIRECT ACCESS FOR MEDICATION ADMINISTRATION AND HEART RHYTHM ANALYSIS WITH DEFIBRILLATION WHEN NECESSARY.

ADDITIONALLY, USING THEIR EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE TO ASSESS THE SURROUNDINGS AND INTERVIEW WITNESSES FOR POTENTIAL CAUSES OF THE CARDIAC ARREST IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND OFTEN UNAVAILABLE TO HOSPITAL PROVIDERS.

RECOGNIZING THE CRUCIAL ROLE OF BYSTANDER CPR IN IMPROVING SURVIVAL RATES FOR CARDIAC ARREST, THERE IS A NATIONWIDE EFFORT TO PROMOTE COMMUNITY

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KNOWLEDGE AND TRAINING, AS WELL AS TO DELIVER PRE-ARRIVAL CPR INSTRUCTIONS OVER THE PHONE BY TRAINED DISPATCHERS.

THIS INITIATIVE EMPHASIZES IDENTIFYING A CARDIAC ARREST, OVERCOMING THE HESITATION TO ACT, AND PERFORMING HANDS ONLY CPR BY STREAMLINING TRAINING TO FOCUS ON THE ESSENTIAL STEPS, DELIVERING HIGH QUALITY CHEST COMPRESSIONS, AND USING AN AED.

WHEN AVAILABLE, WE INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT BYSTANDERS WILL FEEL CONFIDENT AND CAPABLE OF PROVIDING LIFESAVING CARE.

TRAINING EMPHASIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESSING HARD AND FAST IN THE CENTER OF THE CHEST, CALLING 911 AND SENDING SOMEONE TO GET AN AED.

CURRENTLY, AEDS ARE INSTALLED IN MANY PUBLIC BUILDINGS, MAJOR CITY PARKS, AND ALL POLICE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES.

EVERY SCHOOL IN CARLSBAD, FROM ELEMENTARY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, IS EQUIPPED WITH AT LEAST ONE AED, AND SOME PRIVATE BUSINESSES HAVE ALSO TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO INITIATIVE TO ACQUIRE ONE.

WHEN WE CONSIDER WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE IN THIS AREA, PERSPECTIVE IS IMPORTANT.

PRIOR TO EMS AND THE ABILITY TO TREAT THESE PATIENTS QUICKLY IN THE FIELD AND DELIVER THEM TO FURTHER CARE, NEARLY 100% OF OUT-OF-HOSPITAL CARDIAC ARREST CASES ENDED IN DEATH. DEVELOPING THE ABILITY TO DELIVER CARE IN CARDIAC ARREST WAS ONE OF THE PRIMARY DRIVERS FOR CREATING PARAMEDICS, WHICH CARLSBAD FIRE HAS PROUDLY PROVIDED SINCE BEFORE THE EMS ACT OF 1980.

AS WE EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE IMPROVING IN THIS AREA, THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC MEASURES THAT WE CONSIDER IN THE FIELD WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO OBTAIN THE RETURN OF SPONTANEOUS CIRCULATION OR ROSC.

THIS SIMPLY MEANS THAT A PATIENT'S HEART HAS STARTED BEATING AGAIN AND THEIR BLOOD IS FLOWING.

THE TRUE MEASURE OF SUCCESS IS WHETHER THESE PATIENTS GET TO GO HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES AND RESUME THEIR LIVES.

THIS IS MEASURED AS SURVIVAL TO DISCHARGE NEUROLOGICALLY INTACT.

FINALLY, TO STANDARDIZE THE PATIENTS THAT ARE COUNTED IN OR COUNTED OUT, WE LOOK AT THE ULSTEIN SURVIVAL RATE.

THIS IS A NATIONAL STANDARD BASED ON CRITERIA AND INCLUSIVE OF HOSPITAL OUTCOME DATA.

THE PATIENTS INCLUDED HERE ARE PATIENTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BENEFIT FROM INTERVENTION, AND IMPROVEMENT.

INDICATES THAT THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE IS DELIVERING BETTER CARE THROUGHOUT THE EVENT, FROM BYSTANDERS TO FIRST RESPONDERS TO MEDICS TO THE HOSPITAL.

AS PART OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S CONTINUOUS QUALITY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WE THOROUGHLY EVALUATE EACH CARDIAC ARREST WITHIN THE CITY.

WE ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THE CARDIAC ARREST REGISTRY TO ENHANCE SURVIVAL PROGRAM KNOWN AS CARES, WHICH HELPS MEASURE PERFORMANCE AND IDENTIFY STRATEGIES TO IMPROVE SURVIVAL RATES FOR CARDIAC ARREST.

THE DATA PRESENTED HERE IS FROM CARLSBAD FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ANNUAL CARES REPORT FOR 2023, WHICH ASSESSES OUR EMS, AGENCY AND SYSTEM WIDE PERFORMANCE. THE FIRST KEY METRIC IS SURVIVAL TO DISCHARGE NEUROLOGICALLY INTACT, WHICH REFLECTS THE PERCENTAGE OF CARDIAC ARREST.

CASES THAT RECEIVED RESUSCITATION EFFORTS FROM CARLSBAD FIRE DEPARTMENT SURVIVED AND FULLY RECOVERED WITHOUT ANY NEUROLOGIC NEUROLOGICAL IMPAIRMENTS.

OUR GOAL IS TO ACHIEVE THIS FOR EVERY CARDIAC ARREST IN 2023.

THE CARLSBAD FIRE DEPARTMENT ACHIEVED A 21.8% SURVIVAL RATE, WITH FULL RECOVERY NEARLY THREE TIMES THE COUNTYWIDE AVERAGE AND TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. THE SECOND KEY METRIC IS THE ULSTEIN SURVIVAL RATE, WHICH FOCUSES ON CASES WHERE SURVIVAL IS MORE LIKELY, SUCH AS WITNESSED CARDIAC ARRESTS WITH A SHOCKABLE HEART RHYTHM.

THIS MEASURE IS CONSIDERED THE GOLD STANDARD FOR ASSESSING CARDIAC ARREST.

SYSTEM PERFORMANCE SHOWED THAT CARLSBAD FIRE DEPARTMENT'S RESULTS WERE 64.3%, TWICE AS HIGH AS THE NATIONAL AND STATE AVERAGES, AND SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN COUNTY WIDE RESULTS.

DESPITE THESE ACHIEVEMENTS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE LOSSES EXPERIENCED BETWEEN THE SUCCESSES WHICH IMPACT EVERYONE INVOLVED IN RESUSCITATION EFFORTS, INCLUDING FAMILY AND LOVED ONES, BYSTANDERS, DISPATCH, POLICE AND EMS PERSONNEL.

HOWEVER, WE SHOULD ALSO CELEBRATE THE SUCCESSES AS EACH SURVIVAL STATISTIC REPRESENTS AN INDIVIDUAL IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAS A CHANCE TO RETURN TO THEIR LOVED ONES. I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME RECENT SUCCESS STORIES AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THESE POSITIVE OUTCOMES.

CASE ONE WHEN THIS OCCURRED.

THIS CASE OCCURRED IN JULY ON THE BEACH NEAR TOWER 37.

THIS GENTLEMAN CAME OUT OF THE WATER, COLLAPSED, AND RESUSCITATION EFFORTS WERE INITIATED BY BYSTANDERS, INCLUDING A CITY POOL LIFEGUARD.

STATE LIFEGUARDS USE THEIR AED TO DEFIBRILLATE PRIOR TO ARRIVAL OF FIRE STATION SEVEN CREW AND FIRE LIFEGUARD.

HE WAS TREATED WITH A TOTAL OF EIGHT DEFIBRILLATION AND MULTIPLE MEDICATIONS BY PARAMEDICS.

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HE REGAINED A PULSE AT THE HOSPITAL WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO TREAT HIS UNDERLYING CONDITION.

HE REMAINED IN CRITICAL CONDITION BUT ULTIMATELY FULLY RECOVERED AND WAS DISCHARGED HOME.

THE FULL RECOVERY, WITHOUT ANY RESIDUAL NEUROLOGIC EFFECTS AFTER A PROLONGED TIME WITHOUT A HEARTBEAT, WAS A RESULT OF THE HIGH QUALITY COMPRESSIONS HE RECEIVED, STARTING WITH THE BYSTANDER AND CONTINUING TO THE HOSPITAL.

THIS CASE WAS ALSO FEATURED AS A LOCAL NEWS STORY.

IN JUNE, A 74 YEAR OLD WAS PLAYING A GAME WITH HIS SOFTBALL TEAM AT OLGA PARK WHEN HE SUDDENLY COLLAPSED.

TEAMMATES AND BYSTANDERS BEGAN CPR.

POLICE OFFICERS ARRIVED, PROVIDED AN EFFECTIVE DEFIBRILLATION WITH THEIR AED.

MEDICS ARRIVED, THEN PROVIDED FURTHER CARE AND REGAINED A PULSE.

THEY WERE ABLE TO DIAGNOSE HIS HEART ATTACK, BEGIN THE TREATMENT FOR IT, TRANSMITTED HIS EKG AND ALERT THE HOSPITAL DURING TRANSPORT.

HE WAS ABLE TO TALK TO THE MEDICS UPON ARRIVAL AT THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

AFTER HIS RECOVERY, HE WAS DISCHARGED HOME AND HAS RETURNED TO HIS SOFTBALL TEAM.

CAYCE, THREE, WAS A IS A PICKLEBALL PLAYER WHO COLLAPSED ON A LOCAL COURT AND OTHER PLAYERS BEGAN CPR.

MEDICS ARRIVED AND PROVIDED MULTIPLE DEFIBRILLATORS AND MEDICATIONS UPON ARRIVAL TO THE HOSPITAL.

A PULSE WAS REGAINED AFTER RECEIVING FURTHER TREATMENT.

THEY MADE A FULL RECOVERY AND DISCHARGED HOME.

A 49 YEAR OLD COLLAPSED AT A LOCAL RESTAURANT.

BYSTANDERS, INCLUDING ANOTHER CITY POOL LIFEGUARD, BEGAN CPR.

POLICE OFFICERS ARRIVED, APPLIED THEIR EAD AND PROVIDED A DEFIBRILLATION AND UPON EMS ARRIVAL THE PATIENT HAD A PULSE AND WAS RESPONDING ALREADY.

MEDICS WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN AN EKG SHOWING A HEART ATTACK, ALERT THE HOSPITAL AND CONTINUE TREATMENT.

THAT GENTLEMAN MADE A FULL RECOVERY AND WAS DISCHARGED HOME WITH AN INTERNAL DEFIBRILLATOR.

AND THIS LAST CASE IS A 28 YEAR OLD FEMALE WHO WAS FOUND UNRESPONSIVE BY HER PARENTS.

CARLSBAD POLICE ARRIVED AND ADMINISTERED NARCAN FOR A POSSIBLE OVERDOSE.

UPON MEDIC ARRIVAL, THE PATIENT BECAME PULSELESS.

WITH CPR AND FURTHER TREATMENT PROVIDED BY MEDICS, A PULSE RETURNED PRIOR TO TRANSPORT TO THE HOSPITAL.

THE PATIENT WAS EVENTUALLY DISCHARGED AFTER RECOVERING FROM AN OVERDOSE.

EFFORTS TO INCREASE SURVIVAL FROM SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST IN OUR CITY CONTINUE.

CARLSBAD FIRE HAS BECOME A COMMUNITY PARTNER WITH THE COUNTYWIDE REVIVE AND SURVIVE SAN DIEGO INITIATIVE, WHICH AIMS TO TRAIN 1 MILLION SAN DIEGANS AND HANDS ONLY CPR THROUGH AN INTEGRATION OF COMMUNITY HEALTH WITH EMS. WE HAVE PROVIDED CPR TRAINING TO A WIDE RANGE OF GROUPS, MOSTLY MOST RECENTLY TO LOCAL BUSINESSES, SENIOR SOFTBALL LEAGUES AND A BUDDHIST TEMPLE.

DIVERSE GROUPS OF PEOPLE SHARING MOTIVATION TO LEARN HOW TO HELP SAVE A LIFE.

IN SUMMARY, THE RESULTS OF THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES IN CASES OF SURVIVAL THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED ARE SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF AS A COMMUNITY.

IT IS A REFLECTION OF MS SKILL, EFFORT AND RESPONSE TIME.

CARLSBAD POLICE OFFICERS CONSISTENT AND DEPENDABLE ACTION PRIOR TO MEDIC ARRIVAL, AND A COMMUNITY WILLING TO HELP IN AN EMERGENCY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I INVITE YOU TO JOIN US IN CELEBRATING OUR SUCCESSES AND THE LIVES SAVED FROM SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST IN OUR CITY.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES. MICHAEL AZOFF.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CHIEF PEARSON FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY MS OFFICE, A DIVISION OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY FIRE.

THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY MS OFFICE APPLAUDS THE DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT OF THE CARLSBAD FIRE DEPARTMENT TO IMPROVE SURVIVAL FROM OUT-OF-HOSPITAL CARDIAC ARREST.

SINCE 2022, CARLSBAD FIRE DEPARTMENTS FOCUSED EFFORTS HAVE LED TO SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IN CARDIAC ARREST CARE, LEADING TO MORE LIVES SAVED THAN REPORTED BY COUNTY, STATE, AND NATIONAL DATA.

SPECIFICALLY, COMPARED WITH THE COUNTY, OUT-OF-HOSPITAL CARDIAC ARREST SURVIVAL RATE OF 7.4%, AN IMPRESSIVE 21.8% OF CARLSBAD RESIDENTS SUFFERING CARDIAC ARREST LEAVE THE HOSPITAL ALIVE WITH INTACT BRAIN FUNCTION.

THIS EXTRAORDINARY ACCOMPLISHMENT HIGHLIGHTS THE STRENGTH OF THE CARLSBAD FIRE DEPARTMENT'S TRAINING AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS. I WOULD NOW LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU INFORMATION ON THE REVIVE AND SURVIVE SAN DIEGO INITIATIVE, WHICH WAS MENTIONED IN THE REPORT.

SO, AS THE REPORT EXPLAINS, IN ADDITION TO FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE, EARLY BYSTANDER CPR BY CARLSBAD CITIZENS IS A KEY FACTOR CONTRIBUTING TO SURVIVAL FROM OUT-OF-HOSPITAL CARDIAC ARREST. IN FACT, SURVIVAL NEARLY DOUBLES WHEN BYSTANDER CPR IS PERFORMED.

RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF HANDS ONLY BYSTANDER CPR, THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY EMS OFFICE PARTNERED WITH THE UC SAN DIEGO HERBERT WERTHEIM SCHOOL OF

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PUBLIC HEALTH AND HUMAN LONGEVITY SCIENCE TO CREATE, REVIVE AND SURVIVE SAN DIEGO.

REVIVE AND SURVIVE.

SAN DIEGO IS A COMMUNITY WIDE INITIATIVE, WITH THE GOAL TO TRAIN 1 MILLION SAN DIEGANS IN BYSTANDER HANDS ONLY CPR.

WE ARE PLEASED THAT THE CARLSBAD FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS JOINED WITH MORE THAN 30 OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ENGAGED AS PARTNERS TO THE REVIVE AND SURVIVE PROGRAM.

THIS CALENDAR YEAR ALONE, NEARLY 200,000 SAN DIEGANS HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN HANDS ONLY BYSTANDER CPR AT MORE THAN 6300 300 EVENTS. IN CLOSING, THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY EMS OFFICE RECOGNIZES THE OUTSTANDING WORK OF THE CARLSBAD FIRE DEPARTMENT IN IMPROVING OUT-OF-HOSPITAL CARDIAC ARREST SURVIVAL FOR THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD.

ON A PERSONAL NOTE, AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, I AM PLEASED TO SEE OUR LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVING THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE THEY PROVIDE.

THANK YOU, SPEAKER.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS.

QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.

MISS LUNA. SO I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE BECAUSE I WORKED IN UNINCORPORATED PORTION THREE REASONS WHY CITIES BECOME CITIES.

AND ONE OF THE PRIMARY ONE IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND I AM SO PROUD THAT WE ARE CONSIDERED EXTRAORDINARY AND OUTSTANDING.

AND FRANKLY, WE MOVED SIX HOUSES DOWN.

MY HUSBAND IS A FIREFIGHTER, RETIRED TO BE NEAR A FIRE STATION BECAUSE HE KNEW HIS RATE OF SURVIVAL WAS INCREASED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN ASK FOR ANYTHING STRONGER IN A IN A CITY.

AND THANK YOU TO THE TWO OF YOU.

CHIEF CALDERWOOD, GREAT PROGRAM.

KEEP IT UP. AND I KNOW THE COUNCIL TOTALLY SUPPORTS ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS.

MISS BURKHOLDER.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL.

THOSE STATISTICS THAT YOU PUT UP THERE WERE VERY SHOCKING.

AND I ALWAYS LOVE A PERSONAL STORY, SO THAT WAS MEANINGFUL TO ME.

I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.

MISS ACOSTA, THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO PILE ON THE CONGRATULATIONS AND THE THANKS.

GREAT NUMBERS. GREAT TO HEAR THE REPORT.

AND I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE OTHER FOLKS OUTSIDE OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT LIKE OUR SCHOOLS.

I REMEMBER MY DAUGHTER, WHEN SHE WAS AT SAGE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, DID LIKE AN AMERICAN RED CROSS TRAINING, AND IT WAS HELPFUL FOR HER FOR BABYSITTING TO SAY SHE HAD THAT CPR CERTIFICATE. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST CONTINUALLY EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY AND PROMOTING THESE LIFE SAVING SKILLS I THINK ARE SO IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU, MISS BHAT-PATEL.

YES, JUST ECHOING THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE AMAZING WORK.

AND I KNOW EVERYONE ALWAYS SAYS THAT CARLSBAD IS NUMBER ONE AND MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, AND CLEARLY IN PUBLIC SAFETY, WE SURPASS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, I KNOW CERT, OUR COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM, IS ANOTHER WAY FOR FOLKS TO GET INVOLVED.

AND DEFINITELY THE CPR TRAINING IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL CAN DO.

BUT THE OTHER PIECE I WANTED TO QUICKLY MAKE A PLUG FOR WAS THE CERT TEAM, WHERE HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ALSO LEARN SOME MORE HANDS ON SKILLS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE AMAZING WORK AND I ECHO EVERYTHING THE REST OF THE COUNCIL SAID.

GOOD JOB. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER TEN.

[10. PROGRESS REPORT ON ACTIONS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS RELATED TO THE WINDSOR POINTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT]

BUT BEFORE WE START WITH THAT I WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT CONAM MANAGEMENT CORPORATION MANAGES WINDSOR POINT PROPERTY.

I DO NOT HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN CONDOM MANAGEMENT.

HOWEVER, I DO HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN A SEPARATE CONDOM BUSINESS.

IF, DURING THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM, THE CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO DISCUSS CONDOM MANAGEMENT, I WILL STEP DOWN FROM THE DAIS AND LEAVE THE ROOM.

MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL WILL PRESIDE UNTIL THE DISCUSSION OF CONAM MANAGEMENT CORPORATION HAS CONCLUDED.

THEN I'LL RETURN AND TAKE OVER PRESIDING THE REST OF THE ITEM AND CITY ATTORNEY.

YOU HAD SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT AS WELL? YES. COUNCIL.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE CONTACTED OUR OFFICE REQUESTING THE NAME OF THE LAW FIRM THAT THE CITY HAS HIRED TO LOOK INTO THE WINDSOR POINT MATTER.

I'VE BEEN UNABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE IT ONLY EXISTS IN PRIVILEGED DOCUMENTS.

IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE OUR OFFICE TO RELEASE THAT INFORMATION, I WOULD NEED A MOTION AND A VOTE TO WAIVE THE PRIVILEGE FOR THAT INFORMATION.

SO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL COMMENTS.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND THANK YOU, MAYOR, IF I IF I MAY.

AND I'LL GIVE THE SPELLINGS TO IF IT'S NEEDED.

BUT THE LAW FIRM THAT THE CITY ENGAGED IS NAMED, SHOOT, MCCAULEY AND WEINBERGER.

THEY'RE BASED IN SAN FRANCISCO, AND THE TWO ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE BEEN ASSISTING THE CITY ARE RENEE ORTEGA AND GABRIEL ROSS.

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THANK YOU. NOW, ITEM NUMBER TEN IS THE PROGRESS REPORT ON ACTIONS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS RELATED TO THE WINDSOR POINT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR POLICE CHIEF CHRISTIE CALDERWOOD, ALONG WITH OUR ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEF, REID SHIPLEY, AND OUR HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES DIRECTOR, MANDY MILLS.

GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MANDY MILLS.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES.

AND AS MENTIONED, I'M JOINED BY POLICE CHIEF CHRISTIE CALDERWOOD AND ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE REID SHIPLEY.

TONIGHT, WE'LL BE PRESENTING TOGETHER ON AN UPDATE ON THE WINDSOR POINT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

SO TONIGHT IS OUR RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO RECEIVE THE REPORT ON THE COUNCIL DIRECTED ACTION ITEMS RELATED TO WINDSOR POINT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, WINDSOR POINT IS AN APARTMENT PROJECT HERE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

IT IS.

HALF OF THE UNITS OFFER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, BUT IT IS STILL HOUSING, NOT NECESSARILY A HOMELESS SHELTER OR AN INSTITUTION, IT IS HOUSING.

THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND ABOUT THE TARGET POPULATION, AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY.

CITY STAFF ARE TAKING THESE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY, AND SO FAR WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTING TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.

WE HAVE BEEN FORWARD IN MARCH, APRIL AND JUNE AND OBVIOUSLY REPORTING HERE TONIGHT AS WELL, JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND THERE.

THE PROJECT IS DIVIDED INTO TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, SO THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO MANAGE THE, IT'S IN THE VILLAGE BARRIO VILLAGE BARRIO AREA, SOUTH OF CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE AND WEST OF INTERSTATE FIVE ON TWO NONCONTIGUOUS STREETS.

SO IT'S ON OAK AND HARDING.

THERE'S 24 UNITS AT NINE, SIX, FIVE OAK AND 26 UNITS AT 3606 HARDING.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AGENCIES INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.

SO THE CARLSBAD PROVIDED APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THE CITY FUNDING TOWARDS THE PROJECT BY PURCHASING THE LAND FROM AFFIRMED HOUSING, WHICH THE PROCEEDS WERE THEN USED TOWARDS DEVELOPMENT COSTS OF THE PROJECT.

THE CITY ENTERED INTO A LONG TERM LEASE WITH AFFIRMED HOUSING, AND AFFIRMED HOUSING DEVELOPED AND OWNS THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE LEASED LAND.

THE CONTRACT WITH CONAM TO SERVE AS THE PROPERTY MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT, AND INTERFAITH COMMUNITY SERVICES PROVIDES TENANTS TO ALL RESIDENTS ON SITE MONDAY TO FRIDAY. THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES CONTRACTS FOR SERVICES THROUGH ALPHA PROJECT FOR RESIDENTS ON THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME UNITS, AND THEN THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT PROVIDES AN OPERATIONAL SUBSIDY FOR THE PROJECT OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW FOLKS ARE SELECTED TO LIVE AT WINDSOR POINT.

SO THERE ARE 50 UNITS, BUT THERE'S A MANAGER'S UNIT AT EACH LOCATION.

SO THERE'S 48 UNITS THAT ARE RENTED.

THE THEY ARE IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND THEY'RE ALSO DIVIDED BY TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING RESTRICTIONS.

SO THE FIRST 24 I'LL REFER TO AS AFFORDABLE UNITS.

THESE ARE ALSO REFERRED TO SOMEBODY HAS ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION REGARDING TC UNITS.

THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE ACRONYM OR ABBREVIATION FOR TAX CREDIT UNITS.

SO FOR THESE AFFORDABLE UNITS THEY ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR HOUSEHOLDS WITH LOWER INCOMES.

AND WE DO HAVE A VETERAN PREFERENCE AS WELL AS A PREFERENCE FOR FOLKS WHO LIVE OR WORK IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

SO THE PRIORITY IS LISTED THERE ON THE SCREEN.

IT'S AND THEN FOR THAT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE ARE EIGHT VETERAN HOUSEHOLDS AND THERE ARE FIVE HOUSEHOLDS THAT LIVED OR WORK IN CARLSBAD WHEN THEY RECEIVED THE PREFERENCE.

THE OTHER 24 UNITS I'LL REFER TO AS NO PLACE LIKE HOME UNITS ARE REGULATED BY THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME GUIDELINES, AND OFFER AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WHO HAVE SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS.

THEY ARE REFERRED THROUGH THE REGIONAL COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM AND OFFER A VETERAN PRIORITY.

THIS IS A PREFERENCE, SO IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.

AND SO AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, DISCUSSED VETERANS USUALLY ARE REFERRED TO UNITS THROUGHOUT THE REGION THAT HAVE A VETERAN REQUIREMENT.

SO FUNDING THROUGH THE VA DEPARTMENT GENERALLY HAVE A RESTRICTION.

SO SINCE WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTING TO COUNCIL, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF OBVIOUSLY CONCERNS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS.

AND CITY COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED CITY STAFF TO TAKE A NUMBER OF ACTIONS.

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SO AND THAT WAS AT THE MARCH, APRIL AND THE JUNE MEETINGS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO REPORT OUT ON A LOT OF THOSE.

A LOT OF THESE ARE SOME WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE, AND THEN SOME ARE KIND OF LONGER TERM AND ONGOING.

AND SO WE'LL REPORT ON WHAT HAS OCCURRED AND THEN WHAT IS STILL CONTINUING OR WHAT'S NEXT.

OH SORRY.

HERE WE GO. SO FOR SECURITY.

SO WE HAVE EXPANDED BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND SECURITY ON SITE SO THAT AS OF APRIL 12TH, THE SEVEN DAY A WEEK SECURITY ON SITE WENT FROM 6 P.M.

TO 6 A.M. AND THAT'S AT BOTH LOCATIONS.

AND THEN THERE IS 24 HOUR VIDEO MONITORING SERVICE.

AND WHAT'S NEXT? WE CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR 24 HOUR SECURITY.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ON VISITOR ACCESS CONTROL.

THEY HAVE INSTALLED A VIDEO ENABLED CONTROL ACCESS SYSTEM.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF BOTH LOCATIONS, VISITORS ARE DIRECTED TO GO TO THE FRONT ENTRANCE AND THERE IS A SCREEN WHERE THEIR PHOTO IS TAKEN AND THEY'RE INSTRUCTED TO ONCE THEY ENTER THE MAIN BUILDING, THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE OTHER LOCATIONS BECAUSE OF SECURE ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING, SO GUESTS ARE INSTRUCTED TO BE ESCORTED BY RESIDENTS OR STAFF TO THE REST OF THE FACILITY.

AND THEN ON SITE STAFF DOES REVIEW THOSE VISITOR LOGS WITH PHOTOS REGULARLY.

AND ON THIS NOTE, SO WE HAVE BEEN THIS WAS A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT.

AND THEN WE HAVE BEEN STILL WORKING OUT AND VERIFYING A LOT OF THIS.

AND SO TODAY I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CHIEF TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED TODAY.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL.

UP UNTIL ABOUT 8 A.M.

THIS MORNING, CITY STAFF TO INCLUDE MYSELF AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAVE BEEN WORKING UNDER INFORMATION THAT WE BELIEVE TO BE ACCURATE FROM CONAM AND AFFIRMED HOUSING.

THIS MORNING, IN PREPARATION OF THIS COUNCIL PRESENTATION, I MADE IT A POINT TO GO VISIT BOTH LOCATIONS.

WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS CONCERNING TO ME AS THE CHIEF AS WELL.

I BELIEVE IT WILL BE CONCERNING TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND TO CITY STAFF.

I PULLED UP TO THE LOCATION AT ABOUT 8 A.M.

AND IMMEDIATELY OBSERVED A FEMALE WITH NO SHOES ON ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BECAUSE SHE WAS BAREFOOT AND SHE LOOKED TO BE VISIBLY WATCHING THE WINDSOR POINT LOCATION, BUT WALKING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

SO, AS SHE WAS WALKING WESTBOUND BUT LOOKING SOUTHBOUND.

AND THEN SHE DARTED ACROSS THE STREET TOWARDS THE WINTER POINT.

LOCATION ON OAK.

I THEN SAW HER APPROACH THE GATE THAT HAS A SIGN ON IT THAT SAYS.

EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY OR EXIT ONLY.

ALARM WILL SOUND.

SHE THREW HER BAG OVER THE TOP OF THE DOOR TO ENGAGE THE PUSH BAR, LOCK AND OPEN THE DOOR, GAINING ACCESS TO THE FACILITY.

THERE WAS NO ALARM THAT SOUNDED.

SHE THEN DISAPPEARED.

I GOT OUT OF MY VEHICLE, PUT OUT ON THE RADIO THAT I WAS OUT AT THE LOCATION, AND WALKED UP TO THE DOOR THAT SHE ENTERED.

IT WAS STILL.

THE LOCK WAS UNENGAGED SO I WAS ABLE TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY.

UNVETTED. AS I WALKED DOWN THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, I DID NOT SEE HER.

I LOOKED INTO THE PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE I HEARD TWO PEOPLE TALKING AND A VEHICLE RUNNING.

I DIDN'T SEE HER, SO I STARTED TO WALK UP THE STAIRWAY TO THE ACCESS DOORS THAT ENTER INTO THE PROPERTY.

AS I WAS WALKING UP THE FIRST STAIRCASE, I COULD SEE.

RIGHT BELOW ME THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE OPEN ENCLAVE THAT HAD A.

NOT A MATTRESS, BUT LIKE A MATTRESS TOPPER UP AGAINST THE WALL AND A.

BUNCH OF TRASH. SO IT APPEARED TO ME THAT THERE WAS EVIDENCE OF POTENTIALLY.

SOMEBODY SLEEPING THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I WALKED UP THE STAIRWAY, I ENCOUNTERED THE FIRST DOOR WHICH HAS THE KEY FOB ACCESS ON THE WALL.

THE LIGHT WAS RED, WHICH TO ME WOULD INDICATE THE DOOR WAS LOCKED.

BUT WHEN I PULLED THE DOOR, I WAS IMMEDIATELY ABLE TO WALK INTO THE RESIDENTIAL FACILITY.

I WALKED DOWN THE HALLWAY, DID NOT SEE THE FEMALE.

BECAME EXTREMELY CONCERNED THAT I WAS NOW WALKING AROUND WINDSOR POINT.

WITHOUT ANYBODY APPROACHING ME OR SAYING, YOU KNOW, CHIEF, WHY ARE YOU.

HERE? AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THIS FEMALE IS.

I WALKED UP THE NEXT STAIRCASE.

I TRIED A COUPLE MORE DOORS, I BELIEVE.

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2 OR 3 MORE AND ONE OF THEM WAS LOCKED, BUT MULTIPLE WERE IN THE SAME CONDITION WHERE THE RED LIGHT WAS ON.

BUT I WAS ABLE TO ACCESS MULTIPLE FLOORS INTO THAT WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

I THEN WALKED TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, CAME DOWN THE STAIRS TO GO TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO TRY AND CONTACT THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, WHICH PART OF THE PURPOSE OF ME BEING THERE AT EIGHT WAS I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WAS WORKING AT 8 A.M.

IT WAS NOW ABOUT EIGHT, TEN, 815.

STILL NOBODY IN THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT BUILDING.

THERE IS A SIGN ON THE BUILDING THAT SAYS VIDEO MONITORING HAPPENING NOW OR LIVE 24 VIDEO MONITORING AND HAS A PHONE NUMBER THAT YOU CAN CALL FOR STEALTH MANAGEMENT.

SO I STOOD OUTSIDE THE BUILDING, CALLED THE NUMBER.

I SPOKE TO A GENTLEMAN AND I SAID, HEY.

I'M OUTSIDE OF 965 OAK.

CAN YOU SEE ME? I'M LIKE RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE CAMERA.

AND HE SAID, WELL, LET ME GET TO THAT CAMERA.

SO I HE TOOK HIM A MINUTE.

AND I SAID, HEY, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THIS IS THE CHIEF OF POLICE AT CARLSBAD.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU GUYS WERE MONITORING THIS 24 OVER SEVEN.

DID YOU SEE A FEMALE JUST GAIN ACCESS TO THE BUILDING AND ME FOLLOW HER IN? AND HE SAID, NO, WE REALLY DON'T LOOK UNLESS SOMEBODY REPORTS SOMETHING.

WHICH WAS CONTRADICTORY TO THE BELIEF THAT WE HAD AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I THEN HE GAVE ME THE NUMBER FOR THE PROPERTY MANAGER.

AND I HUNG UP WITH HIM.

I TRIED CALLING THE PROPERTY MANAGER, LEFT HER A VOICEMAIL.

I DID NOT GET A CALL BACK FROM HER.

I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO HER TODAY, BUT SHE DID LEAVE ME A VOICEMAIL.

AND THAT WAS NOT UNTIL 11 A.M.

TODAY. FROM THERE, I DROVE OVER TO THE HARDING LOCATION TO SEE IF I WAS GOING TO EXPERIENCE A SIMILAR THING WITH THE DOORS BEING UNSECURE. I DID LOCATE A CONAM EMPLOYEE IN THE OFFICE.

I DID SPEAK TO HIM AND I SAID, HEY, I WAS JUST OVER AT THE OAK BUILDING.

IT'S VERY CONCERNING BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO GAIN ACCESS TO MULTIPLE DOORS AND I SAW A FEMALE GAIN ACCESS VERY EASILY.

AND HE SAID, YES, I'M AWARE PEOPLE BASICALLY CAN JUST PULL AS HARD AS THEY CAN AND THEY CAN MAKE THOSE DOORS OPEN.

SO IT DID APPEAR, BASED OFF MY CONVERSATION, THAT CONAM WAS AWARE THAT THESE DOORS AT OK WERE UNSECURE AND ANYBODY AT ANY TIME COULD ENTER THE BUILDING.

I DID ASK HIM IF HE KNEW WHEN THE PROPERTY MANAGER AT THE OAK BUILDING WOULD BE ON SITE, AND HE SAID HE BELIEVED AT 10 A.M.

AND I SAID, OKAY.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MANDY MILLS IN OUR CITY MANAGER, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTIFY NOT ONLY OUR COMMUNITY OF THIS INCIDENT, BUT COUNCIL AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE IS MUCH MORE TO DO IN THIS AREA.

SO, ON TERMS OF WHAT'S NEXT, WE HAVE ALREADY ASKED FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DOORS AND THAT GATE.

AND THEN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING INTO ROUTINE ON SITE PATROL, WHICH ARE ALREADY OCCURRING, BUT MAKING THAT A DEFINITE PLANNED PATROL, AND THEN ALSO SOME SECURITY AUDITS BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO VERIFY THE DOORS ARE SECURE, ET CETERA.

IN TERMS OF LEASE ENFORCEMENT.

SO THE AFFIRMED HOUSING HAS BEEN TAKING APPROPRIATE LEGAL ACTIONS FOR VIOLATIONS OF LEASE TERMS UP TO AND INCLUDING EVICTIONS WHEN NEEDED.

SO THERE, SINCE OUR MARCH MEETING TWO PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN EVICTED.

THERE'S ONE MORE IN PROCESS.

AND THEN THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE ALSO TENANTS THAT ARE IN SOME FORM OF A HOUSING RETENTION PLAN.

AND SO THEY WORK FOR CERTAIN TIME TO SEE IF THEY CAN RECTIFY THEIR ISSUE.

AND THEN THE LAST CASE, THE LAST STEP WOULD BE AN EVICTION.

AT THE CITY'S REQUEST, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO HAS AUTHORIZED AN INCREASE IN ON SITE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

SO THE TENANT PEER SUPPORT SERVICES FOR NO PLACE LIKE HOME RESIDENTS WAS INCREASED BY 20 HOURS A WEEK.

SO IT IS NOW 44 HOURS A WEEK.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY ALL DAY MONDAY TO FRIDAY.

THERE ARE A COUPLE DAYS WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY LONGER TILL 6 P.M., AND THEN THERE'S A HANDFUL OF RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REFERRED FOR MORE SPECIALIZED, HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE. AND THEN IN TERMS OF WHAT'S NEXT FOR SERVICES, THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS REQUESTED THAT COUNTY STAFF LOOK INTO FUNDING THOSE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

SO, ONSITE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SUPPORT FOR SEVEN DAYS.

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SO COUNTY STAFF IS STILL LOOKING INTO FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT REQUEST.

AND SIMILARLY, AT COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DIRECTION, ON SITE STAFF HAS RECEIVED MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID TRAINING.

AND SO THAT INCLUDES RECOGNIZING CRISIS SITUATIONS AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE REFERRALS AND RESPONSES WHEN NEEDED.

IN TERMS OF WHO CAN LIVE ON THE PROPERTY AND THE DESIRE TO HAVE MORE VETERANS IN CARLSBAD RESIDENTS LIVING THERE, A FEW THINGS HAVE OCCURRED SO FAR.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE KIND OF LONG TERM FIXES.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME QUICKLY.

I MEAN, THE UNITS ARE PRIMARILY FULL.

AND SO IN TERMS OF WE REALLY CAN'T AFFECT CHANGE UNTIL WE HAVE TURNOVER.

SO THERE HAS BEEN LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY WITH LOBBYISTS BOTH AT THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE LEVEL.

SO THERE IS A RECENT BILL THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED BY CONGRESSMAN BRAD SHERMAN WITH SOME SEVERAL CO-SPONSORS, INCLUDING MIKE LEVIN. AND THAT WOULD BE TO IT'S CALLED THE HOUSING UNHOUSED DISABLED VETERANS ACT.

AND THAT ONE WILL INCLUDE BASICALLY VA DISABILITY AND PENSION BENEFITS FOR QUALIFYING FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

SO MORE VETERANS WOULD MEET THE INCOME QUALIFICATION.

AND AND THAT'S MOSTLY FOR THEIR RENTAL.

THE SECTION EIGHT RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

BUT IT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE DECIDED THIS MORNING TO WRITE A SUPPORT LETTER FOR THAT BILL.

AND SIMILARLY, JUST RECENTLY, JUST TWO WEEKS AGO ON EIGHT OVER EIGHT, HUD ANNOUNCED A SIMILAR CHANGE FOR VETERANS, AND THIS WOULD APPLY TO THE HUD VASH PROGRAM, WHICH IS A PROGRAM BETWEEN THE VETERANS AFFAIRS AS WELL AS HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S A SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM FOR VETERANS AND SO ON THAT PROGRAM.

VA DISABILITY BENEFITS ARE EXCLUDED FROM THIS, FROM QUALIFYING FOR THE INCOME, AS WELL AS HOW MUCH THE RESIDENT WOULD BE PAYING AS THEIR PORTION. SO THAT IS RECENT NEWS.

AND AT THE STATE LEVEL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SIMILAR PROVISIONS THAT COULD APPLY TO WINDSOR POINT AS WELL.

IN TERMS OF WHAT'S NEXT.

AS I MENTIONED, THE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE IS SUPPORTING THAT EFFORT, AND THE PROJECT SPONSORS ARE LOOKING INTO PROJECT BASED HOUSING VOUCHERS FOR THE PROJECT THROUGH THE VETERANS AFFAIRS SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM, ADMINISTERED BY THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, AND IF AWARDED, THE VA WOULD REQUIRE THAT REFERRALS WOULD INCLUDE THAT VETERAN'S STATUS AS OPPOSED TO A PREFERENCE.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, OVER THROUGH ATTRITION COULD HAPPEN OVER TIME.

AND WE'LL REPORT OUT ON THAT AS CHANGES OCCUR.

SIMILARLY THE CARLSBAD PREFERENCE, WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE IN LOCAL PEOPLE IN NEED.

SO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT CALIFORNIA HOUSING, DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

SORRY, THAT WAS A TONGUE TWISTER THERE.

THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CONDUCT A REGIONAL FAIR HOUSING ANALYSIS TO VERIFY THAT ANY TYPE OF LOCAL PREFERENCE WOULD NOT VIOLATE FAIR HOUSING.

SO WE ARE LOOKING TO HOW TO, YOU KNOW, EXPLORE HOW TO PROCURE THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS.

WE HAVE TALKED TO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES WHO ARE ALSO IN SUPPORT OF EXPLORING THAT.

YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE SOME COST SHARING IF WE DID SOME TYPE OF A REGIONAL ANALYSIS.

AND THEN THERE'S THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE REGIONAL SYSTEM.

AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE ABOUT IF THERE COULD BE SOME TYPE OF A SUBREGIONAL PREFERENCE ON THAT.

SO MAYBE THERE'S A NORTH COUNTY OR NORTH COUNTY COASTAL SUBREGIONAL PREFERENCE ON THAT.

AND WE CONTINUE TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, MAKE STRIDES AND PRESS THAT ISSUE AS WELL.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MR. MAYOR. POLICE ACTIVITY, POLICE RESPONSES TO THE LOCATION OF OBVIOUSLY GENERATED THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.

A LOT OF COMMUNITY CONCERN AS WELL AS CONCERN WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND THIS COUNCIL.

THE OBJECTIVE OF TODAY'S REPORT TO YOU IS TO SHARE THE INFORMATION RELATED TO THE TIME OF COUNCIL'S IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE THESE NEW EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS THROUGH THROUGH PRESENT DAY.

ESSENTIALLY, WE HAD TO ESSENTIALLY STOP OUR DATA AT JULY 31ST.

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SO PRIMARILY OUR DATA IS GOING TO BE ENCOMPASSING BEGINNING OF MARCH, ON MARCH 1ST THROUGH JULY 31ST, IN AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE A REPORT ON ANY PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE AND ANY FURTHER ACTIVITY OR FURTHER ACTIONS THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND.

ONE OF THE METRICS FOR EVALUATING POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL TO KIND OF TO KIND OF LOOK INTO, TO TRY AND GET A GOOD GRASP OF POLICE ACTIVITY.

ONE OF THEM IS CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND CALLS FOR SERVICE WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE PUBLIC HAD WITH THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT POLICE WERE SHOWING UP AT THESE LOCATIONS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR BOTH THE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY A POLICE CALL FOR SERVICE IS.

SO FOR THE MOST PART, ANY TIME YOU CALL POLICE DISPATCH THEY WILL GENERATE AN INCIDENT NUMBER.

WE TYPICALLY CALL THAT A CALL FOR SERVICE.

SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GENERATES INCIDENT NUMBERS AND THOSE CAN APPLY TO A BROAD RANGE OF THINGS.

INCIDENT NUMBERS CAN INCLUDE 901 CALLS FOR EITHER POLICE EMERGENCIES OR FIRE EMERGENCIES.

THEY CAN ALSO BE 911 HANG UPS OR OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT DON'T REQUIRE RESPONSE.

ALSO, IF OFFICERS MAKE A TRAFFIC STOP OR THEY GO OUT OF THE VEHICLE, THEY WILL ALSO GENERATE AN INCIDENT NUMBER OR A CALL FOR SERVICE.

SO THERE CAN BE A VARIETY OF WAYS THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY ARE CREATED, BUT THEY ARE ALL DOCUMENTED WITHIN OUR SYSTEM.

AND THEY ARE ONE METRIC OF DEMONSTRATING POLICE ACTIVITY.

NOT ALL INCIDENT NUMBERS AT THE WINDSOR POINT LOCATIONS NECESSARILY REPRESENT A RESPONSE TO THE LOCATION.

AND I'M GOING TO GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BECAUSE THAT'S IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AT OUR AT OUR LAST PREVIOUS MEETINGS COUNCIL CANCELED CALLS OR CALLS THAT WE DON'T GO CAN OCCUR FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO.

THEY COULD BE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOWS UP FOR A COMBINED RESPONSE AND DETERMINES IT'S A MEDICAL AID ONLY.

WE DON'T NEED TO RESPOND, AND THEY CANCEL US BECAUSE THEY SAY THERE'S NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE NEEDED.

IT COULD BE BY THE CALLER.

ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE WE HAD A WINDSOR POINT STAFF CALL IN, BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A THEFT AND THEN DETERMINED THAT IT WASN'T ACTUALLY A THEFT, AND THEY CANCELED OUR RESPONSE BEFORE WE HAD TO GET THERE.

THEY HAD ANOTHER ONE WITH A SUSPICIOUS PERSON WHERE IT WAS A SIMILAR CALL.

THE OTHER COULD BE DIVERTED TO OTHER RESOURCES.

AND I'M GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT THAT LATER IN WAYS THAT WE HAVE SOUGHT TO DIVERT CALLS WHERE WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO SEND A UNIFORMED OFFICER TO THE LOCATION OR OUR OFFICERS ON SOME OF THESE OCCASIONS, CAN HANDLE THEM VIA A PHONE CALL.

AND WE STARTED TO DO THAT A LOT MORE BECAUSE IT REDUCES THE IMPACT ON POLICE RESOURCES.

IT ALLOWS US TO STILL EVALUATE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE LOCATION, BUT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO RESPOND TO THE LOCATION, AND IT ALLOWS THAT OFFICER TO REMAIN FREE SHOULD THEY NEED TO RESPOND SOMEPLACE ELSE.

CALLS FOR SERVICE DO NOT ALSO DO NOT NECESSARILY DEMONSTRATE HOW MUCH RESOURCES ARE APPLIED.

SO ONE CALL FOR SERVICE COULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I WENT TO REVIEW HOW THE DIGITAL ENTRY SYSTEM WORKED AND I PUT MYSELF OUT OF THE LOCATION, THAT GENERATED A CALL FOR SERVICE, BUT NOT A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO POLICE RESOURCES.

HOWEVER, TGIF CONCERTS IN THE PARK OR THE MARATHON WOULD ALSO BE A SINGLE INCIDENT NUMBER OR A SINGLE CALL FOR SERVICE, AND IT COULD INVOLVE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF POLICE PERSONNEL FOR HOURS AT A TIME.

WE ALSO TRIAGE AND PRIORITIZE CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT ACTION OR NEED POLICE NEED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, THOSE LOWER PRIORITY CALLS ARE NOT GOING TO GET SERVICED BEFORE THAT SIGNIFICANT NEED. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE WAS A FOUND PROPERTY AT WINDSOR POINT OR A NOISE, A NOISE COMPLAINT AT THE LOCATION, BUT THEN A SERIOUS INJURY TRAFFIC COLLISION COMES OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WE ARE, OF COURSE, GOING TO SEND THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES TO THAT AND THEN RESPOND TO THE LOWER PRIORITY WHEN NEEDED.

FOR THESE REASONS, CALLS FOR SERVICE CAN SERVE AS A GOOD GENERAL EVALUATION OF POLICE ACTIVITY, BUT AREN'T AN OVERALL NECESSARY OR NECESSARILY AN OVERALL INDICATOR OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

BUT THEY ARE DO THEY DO SERVE AS A GOOD METRIC.

SO FOR OUR EXAMPLE FOR MARCH DATA THROUGH JULY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CREATED 222 CALLS FOR SERVICE IN RELATION TO WINDSOR POINT. THIS IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN OUR PREVIOUS CALLS FOR SERVICE.

WE'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER FOR THE FOR THE TIME FRAME BEFORE, BUT WE HAVE MADE STRIDES IN DIVERTING SOME OF THOSE ACTUAL RESPONSES TO THE LOCATION TO PUT THAT NUMBER IN PERSPECTIVE AT THE SAME TIME FRAME AGAIN, MARCH THROUGH JULY.

THE CITY OF CARLSBAD GENERATED 46,566 CALLS FOR SERVICE CITYWIDE.

COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WAS TO REDUCE RESPONSES, WHERE APPROPRIATE, TO THE FACILITY THROUGH DIVERSION OF THOSE CALLS, AS WELL AS OTHER METRICS FOR NOT OR OTHER MEDIUMS OF NOT HAVING TO ACTUALLY GO TO THE LOCATION OF THESE 222 CALLS FOR SERVICE.

115 OF THOSE CALLS RESULTED IN WHAT WE WOULD CALL A NON RESPONSE TO THE LOCATION.

THOSE NON RESPONSES WERE EITHER OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO HANDLE VIA A PHONE CALL TO THE TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS CALLING IN.

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SOME OF THEM WERE FIRE RESPONSES.

SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY A MEDICAL AID IN NATURE.

AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SEND POLICE PERSONNEL TO THE LOCATION.

THEY WERE DIVERTED.

MEANING THAT WE HAVE OTHER MORE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES.

AND THAT INCLUDES A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THAT I'LL TOUCH ON IN JUST ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

AS WELL AS OTHER SCENARIOS THAT WERE LIKE HANG UPS OR A SMALL, A SMALL NUMBER OF SCENARIOS WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL CALLED AND DID NOT WANT US TO RESPOND.

THEY JUST WANTED TO VENT THEIR CONCERNS WITH US, WHICH AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, WE HAVE A DECENT NUMBER OF CALLS THAT KIND OF WERE ALONG THOSE LINES TOO.

SO 115 NON RESPONSES OUT OF THE 222 CALLS.

OF THE WINDSOR POINT CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THIS IS AGAIN THAT TOTAL 80% WERE FOR NON-CRIMINAL MATTERS SUCH AS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR CALLS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S NOT TO SUGGEST THAT THE OTHER 20% WERE CRIMES.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE 80% WERE THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRADITIONALLY ASSOCIATED WITH A SPECIFIC LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE.

BUT RATHER ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE, LIKE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, CHRONIC CONCERNS OF OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE CALLING TO COMPLAIN, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE 20% WOULD BE THINGS THAT WOULD BE MORE TRADITIONALLY APPROPRIATE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE.

SO THOSE COULD COULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE A CRIME REPORT FOR A THEFT.

IT COULD INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, BUT IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE A NOISE COMPLAINT, LIKE AN AREA CHECK, LIKE SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES.

IF PERHAPS A NEIGHBOR CALLED IN AND SAID, THERE'S A VEHICLE PARKED OUT FRONT THAT I FIND SUSPICIOUS, AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS RESPONDED TO THAT, AND I CREATE A CALL FOR SERVICE THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THAT 20%.

STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO IN BOTH THE MARCH AND APRIL COUNCIL MEETINGS TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO DIVERT THESE RESPONSES. AND IN THAT 80% IS ONE OF THE BIG AREAS THAT WE'VE SOUGHT TO DO THAT IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO DIVERT THE 20%, THE CRIMINAL RELATED THINGS. AND WE DON'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

BUT THE 80% IS WHAT WAS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE FOUND TO DO THAT WERE TO HAVE EITHER ON SITE HANDLE IT OR IN MANY CASES, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS EITHER THE OFFICER HANDLES IT VIA PHONE CALL IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE, OR DIVERT TO SOMETHING CALLED MCR, MAKATI, WHICH IS THE MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM.

AND WHAT THE MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS, IS A COUNTY ENTITY THAT WE WOULD EITHER CALL OR THEY CAN ACTUALLY RESPOND OF THEIR OWN FRUITION, BUT THEY ARE A CLINICIANS PAIRED WITH OTHER ADVOCATES WHO WILL RESPOND TO MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND PROVIDE SERVICES WHEN A TRADITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS TO THE MAKATI PROGRAM.

SO IF THE INDIVIDUALS AND THIS IS COUNTY WIDE, NOT JUST WITHIN OUR LOCATION, BUT COUNTY WIDE, IF THE INDIVIDUALS WERE ARMED OR VIOLENT OR SUBJECT TO AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION IF THEY ARE INJURED OR IF LAW ENFORCEMENT IS SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED, THAT WOULD NOT BE AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE FOR MAKATI.

BUT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL WITH OUR REDUCTION IN THESE CALLS FOR THE PD AND AND FOR OUR RESPONSES.

THE DATA ON MCT.

MCT IS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING.

I ONLY HAVE DATA TO REPORT THAT THE PD HAS ACCESS TO, AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE CALLED THEM AND REFERRED THEM OR WHEN THEY NOTIFIED US, USUALLY IN RESPONSE TO HEY, WE'RE FOLLOWING UP WITH THIS PERSON THAT YOU REFERRED US TO.

MCT DOES NOT REQUIRED TO NOTIFY US WHEN THEY COME INTO THE CITY AND TO WHEN THEY MEET WITH CLIENTS, NOR DO THEY REPORT OUT THAT DATA BECAUSE AS PEOPLE WHO TREAT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, THEY HAVE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THEY CAN REPORT OUT AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS.

SO FOR CARLSBAD PD AND THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO, AND WE KNOW DURING THE SAME OPERATIONAL TIME, MARCH TO JULY, MCT WAS EITHER CALLED OUT BY PD OR RESPONDED 60 TIMES.

TWO WINDSOR POINT SPECIFICALLY.

WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT NUMBER IS PRIOR TO AND THIS IS AGAIN JUST OUR DATA, BUT PRIOR TO COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, ONLY FIVE TIMES HAD THEY RESPONDED OUT TO WINDSOR POINT AND THEN THE OTHER 55 TIMES WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND THAT HAS INCREASED AND IMPROVED AS WE AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAVE BECOME MORE ACCUSTOMED TO FINDING OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THOSE REFERRALS BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY THAT WAS NOT OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.

NORMALLY IT WAS GET THE CALL, GO EVALUATE THE CALL, AND THEN TRY AND BRING IN A SECONDARY RESOURCE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN BENEFICIAL IN REDUCING OUR NUMBER OF RESPONSES, BECAUSE WE CAN DIVERT A LOT OF THESE TO THESE OTHER ENTITIES AND AWAY FROM AN OFFICER HAVING TO GO TO THE LOCATION. OF THAT, 80% OF THE WINDSOR POINT CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WERE NON-CRIMINAL AND MATTER, THE MAJORITY DID NOT REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT POLICE INVESTMENT.

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THE VAST MAJORITY WERE EITHER WE CALLED AND TALKED TO THEM.

WE DIVERTED MR. THEY WERE SIMPLY MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

SOMETIMES THEY JUST WANTED TO TALK TO OUR DISPATCHER FOR A WHILE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THINGS.

BUT THE OF THAT.

OF THAT, 98% BASICALLY WENT THAT DIRECTION.

2% ULTIMATELY REQUIRED US TO TAKE A FURTHER ACTION ONCE WE RESPONDED ON SCENE.

AND THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ESSENTIALLY THREE CAYCE NUMBERS THAT WERE 50, 51, 50 DETENTIONS, WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE HAD TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION TO TAKE SOMEBODY INTO A HOSPITAL SETTING FOR EVALUATION.

SINCE WINDSOR POINT STAFF ON SITE STAFF HAS HAD ADDITIONAL TRAINING.

SOME OF THAT HAS HELPED WITH THIS DIVERSION AS WELL.

THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMUNITY CONCERN REGARDING CONCERN WHETHER CALLS WOULD BE UNDERREPORTED OR THERE'D BE DISCOURAGEMENT ON THE PART OF STAFF, NOT CITY STAFF, BUT WINDSOR POINT STAFF, TO DISCOURAGE THAT.

IF IT WAS THE CASE OF THAT, THAT 20% WHERE IT'S CRIMINAL RELATED, THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE AND WE DON'T SEE THAT.

AND THE NEXT SET OF DATA THAT I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU RELATES TO CALLS FOR CRIME CASES AT THE LOCATION.

BUT IF IT IS LOW LEVEL ISSUES AND THEY'RE DIVERTING TO OTHER APPROPRIATE RESOURCES, THAT WOULD BE WITHIN WITHIN COUNSEL'S DIRECTION TO STAFF TO WORK WITH THESE OTHER ENTITIES TO TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

SINCE CALLS FOR SERVICE CAN BE EITHER LARGE OR SMALL AND CAN BE CHALLENGING SOMETIMES TO REALLY GRASP A FULL SCOPE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.

ANOTHER METRIC IS CRIME CASES AND CRIME CASES EXIST WHEN WE RESPOND WITH AN INCIDENT NUMBER WITH A CALL FOR SERVICE, AND WE DETERMINE THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL POLICE ACTIVITY NEEDED. THERE'S THREE CRIME CASES THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTED HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CRIMINAL CASES.

THOSE ARE THE 5150 I REFERRED TO IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE MENTAL HEALTH DETENTIONS.

WHEN AN INCIDENT REQUIRES POLICE ACTION, SUCH AS AN INVESTIGATION OR AN ARREST, A CRIME CASE IS CREATED.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS INVESTIGATED AND HANDLED WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

SO DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD, THE WINDSOR POINT LOCATIONS HAD EIGHT CRIME CASES.

THREE OF THOSE CASES WERE SURROUNDING ONE PARTICULAR INCIDENT.

THIS WAS AN INCIDENT THAT WAS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AT THE LOCATION.

THE SUSPECT WAS GONE WHEN WE ARRIVED, SO WE TOOK A CRIME CASE RELATED TO IT.

WHEN THEY RETURNED, THEY WERE IN VIOLATION OF A RESTRAINING ORDER.

THIS IS ONE WHERE WINDSOR POINT STAFF WAS AWARE OF OUR OF THE PREVIOUS INCIDENT AND OUR NEED TO FIND THIS INDIVIDUAL AND TAKE THEM INTO CUSTODY.

AND THEY DID NOTIFY US, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO INFORM US VIA THE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM WHERE THEY WERE.

AND WE WERE SUCCESSFULLY ABLE TO TAKE THE PERSON INTO CUSTODY.

FOLLOWING TAKING HIM INTO CUSTODY IN THE COMMON AREA, THEY DISCOVERED THAT THE SUBJECT LIKELY HAD DISCARDED NARCOTICS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK AND RECOVER THOSE.

THE THE OTHER CASES OBVIOUSLY WAS A FOUND PROPERTY OF NARCOTICS ON THE PROPERTY OR A REPORTED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE ARREST WAS INTERESTING.

THAT WAS AT OK AND THAT WAS A SUBJECT THAT'S A BANNED GUEST AT THE OAK PROPERTY.

STAFF ON SCENE OBSERVED THE BANNED GUESTS OUT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE CONTACTED THAT INDIVIDUAL, DETERMINED THEY WERE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE, AND THEY WERE PLACED UNDER ARREST.

THERE WAS A STORED PROPERTY, AND THEN THERE WAS A VANDALISM THAT WAS A THERMOSTAT BOX BROKEN AT THE LOCATION BY ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE LOCATION.

THE THERE IS ALSO ONE CASE THAT'S NOT REPRESENTED HERE, BECAUSE THAT WAS A WINDSOR POINT RESIDENT THAT BELIEVED THAT THEIR BIKE WAS STOLEN AND THEN SUBJECT, AFTER WE TOOK OUR CRIME CASE, FIGURED OUT THAT THEY HAD NOT LOST THEIR BIKE AND THEIR BIKE WAS STILL THERE.

AND SO WE REMOVED THAT AS A CASE.

BUT IT'S IT'S STILL A CASE.

BUT WE DIDN'T REPRESENT IT HERE BECAUSE IT'S CANCELED.

IN ADDITION TO SIMPLY REVIEWING ACTIVITY FROM MARCH TO JULY, CITY STAFF WAS ALSO DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING TO DO SOME RESEARCH INTO CALLS FOR SERVICE DATA AND AN ATTEMPT TO ESTIMATE THE TOTAL EXPENSES THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS INCURRING BY PHYSICALLY GOING TO THE LOCATION.

BETWEEN APRIL 20TH, APRIL 22ND AND JULY 2024.

SO THAT'S A PRETTY DECENT AND EXCEEDS OUR OBVIOUSLY MARCH TIMELINE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTALITY OF OUR RESPONSES.

WE HAD 984 CALLS FOR SERVICE TO THE LOCATION, AND SPENT A TOTAL OF 976 HOURS ON LOCATION.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE TIME BY DISPATCH RECEIVING INCOMING CALLS, OR THOSE CALLS THAT WERE DIVERTED BY TELEPHONE OR INVESTIGATIONS THAT WENT INTO.

AND THERE WERE SOME INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED HERE THAT WERE INVESTIGATED BY OUR DETECTIVES AND DID INCUR SOME TIME.

THAT TIME IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ACCOUNT FOR BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF INVESTIGATIONS.

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SO TO PUT THAT NUMBER IN PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, IT WAS 984 CALLS FOR SERVICE, BUT THE POLICE HAD 257,532 CALLS FOR SERVICE AND OUR POLICE BUDGET FOR CONTEXT, IS UP THERE.

THE WAY THAT WE CALCULATED THIS WAS TO LOOK AT THE OFFICER WHO RESPONDED.

TYPICALLY IT WAS A PATROL OFFICER OR A CORPORAL.

SO WE ACTUALLY DID LOOK AT THE TOP STEP COMPENSATION FOR THAT OFFICER AND WHO RESPONDED.

OCCASIONALLY SUPERVISORS DO RESPOND BECAUSE IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THEM OR THEY HAPPEN TO BE CLOSEST TO AN EMERGENCY CALL.

SO WE DID CALCULATE THAT IN AS WELL.

ONE THING THAT WE WANTED TO ADD IN, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT SPECIFIC CASES AT AT THIS LOCATION.

AND WHILE THE MAJORITY OF THESE CASES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER WERE NOT WITHIN OUR TIME FRAME OF COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND THE IMPROVEMENTS WE SEEKING TO MAKE, WE DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY CONCERNS WITH TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, OF COURSE, CONFIDENTIALITY ASPECTS TO SOME OF THEM.

ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT CERTAINLY ELICITS SOME CONCERN WAS THE REPORT OF A SOMEBODY AT A WINDSOR POINT HAD A FRIEND WHO WAS A SEX OFFENDER, WHO USED THE LOCATION TO REGISTER AT THE LOCATION.

WHEN WE DISCOVERED THAT THIS WAS THE CASE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DID SOME INVESTIGATION INTO IT, CONTACTED THE INDIVIDUAL, CONFIRMED THAT THEY WERE NOT, IN FACT, USING IT, THAT THAT WAS AN IMPROPER REGISTRATION.

THEY WERE A RESIDENT OF ESCONDIDO, AND WE CONFIRMED AND CORRECTED THEIR REGISTRATION STATUS TO DISPLAY THEIR APPROPRIATE PLACE OF RESIDENCE. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR SEX REGISTER, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE SOME FOLLOW UP SUBSEQUENTLY, INCLUDING AS RECENTLY AS THIS YEAR, WHERE WE'VE CONFIRMED THAT THEY ARE STILL USING THAT ESCONDIDO RESIDENCE AS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

SO SEEING THEM GET UP IN THE MORNING, SEEING THEM GO OUT TO THEIR CAR, THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT OUR UNIT HAS DONE.

FOR SEX REGISTRANTS GENERALLY, THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT'S FAMILY SERVICES UNIT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, AND THEY MAINTAIN THE REGISTRATION.

AND THIS IS KIND OF A SIDE NOTE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY AT WINDSOR POINT, BUT WE DO MAINTAIN THOSE REGISTRATIONS.

AND THE FAMILY SERVICES UNIT DOES REGULAR SWEEPS AND CHECKUPS TO CONFIRM THAT OUR REGISTRANTS ARE WITHIN COMPLIANCE.

AND WE'VE DONE SWEEPS BOTH IN JUNE AND JULY OF THIS YEAR.

MOST RECENTLY.

WE ALSO CONFIRMED ON THAT ONE THAT THE RESIDENT INDIVIDUAL WAS NEVER A RESIDENT AT THE LOCATION, WAS NOT ALLOWED TO BE LIVING AT THE LOCATION.

THE NEXT INCIDENT COMES FROM JANUARY OF 2023, AND THIS WAS REPORTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS ATTEMPT MURDER AND A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

IN THIS INSTANCE, WE RESPONDED TO THE REPORT OF A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THE CIRCUMSTANCES ON THAT WAS THE FEMALE VICTIM OF THIS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WAS LIVING AT THE LOCATION HER EX-BOYFRIEND, A NONRESIDENT OF WINDSOR POINT WAS INVOLVED IN THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT WITH HER.

A MALE ASSOCIATE OF THE FEMALE, WHO WAS ALSO A RESIDENT OF WINDSOR POINT, INTERVENED AND THE SUSPECT BEGAN ATTACKING THE MALE.

SO BOTH THE FEMALE RESIDENT AND THE ASSOCIATE WERE THE VICTIMS IN THIS CASE, AND THE NONRESIDENT MALE WAS THE SUSPECT.

OUR OFFICERS RESPONDED AS THIS WAS OCCURRING AND WERE ABLE TO TAKE THE SUSPECT INTO CUSTODY.

AND THIS INCIDENT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY PROSECUTED THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM.

SO. IN JULY OF 2023, AND THIS IS THIS IS ONE THAT I'M GOING TO BE SENSITIVE ABOUT, BUT IS ALSO, I WOULD SAY IS KIND OF THE MOST CONCERNING ONE, BOTH FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FOR THE PUBLIC.

IN JULY OF 2023 RESIDENT INVITED AN ACQUAINTANCE FOR A VISIT.

THIS ACQUAINTANCE USED THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOLEST THE RESIDENT'S DAUGHTER CHILD.

A VERY TRAGIC EVENT.

THE FAMILY WAS THE REPORTING PARTY.

THE FAMILY COOPERATED WITH THE INVESTIGATION.

THE FAMILY ALLOWED US TO LOCATE THE SUSPECT.

WE'RE COOPERATIVE WITH PROSECUTION.

AND ULTIMATELY, THE SUSPECT WAS ARRESTED AND SUCCESSFULLY SENTENCED TO STATE PRISON.

THERE'S BEEN SOME INFORMATION THAT THE MOTHER WAS POTENTIALLY COMPLICIT IN THIS CRIME, AND THAT IS CATEGORICALLY FALSE.

BASED UPON OUR INVESTIGATION.

THIS ONE IS NOT NECESSARILY A POLICE ISSUE, BUT IS ONE OF PUBLIC CONCERN.

SO I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO IT.

IN FALL OF 2023, THERE WAS A WATER LEAK AT ONE OF THE OCCUPIED APARTMENTS.

THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED IS THE TENANT DID NOT GRANT ACCESS TO THE APARTMENT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, WHICH DELAYED THE REPAIR.

THE REPAIR WAS COVERED BY THE LOCATION AND WARRANTY, BUT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS IT DUE TO THE RESIDENT NOT ALLOWING ACCESS.

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ULTIMATELY, THAT WAS RESOLVED AND THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN FIXED AND THE APARTMENT HAS BEEN RESTORED.

THIS IS A MORE RECENT ONE, AND THIS ONE CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THROUGH, AGAIN, COMMUNITY CONCERN.

THIS WAS THE REPORT IN JUNE, THIS JUNE, OF A NEIGHBOR WHO ENTERED A YARD.

THIS WAS OUTSIDE OF THE LOCATION AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

THE SUBJECT WAS ACTING STRANGELY AND WAS REPORTEDLY URINATING IN THE LOCATION.

AND THE NEIGHBOR CALLED THE POLICE.

THIS MADE IT INTO SOME OF THE PUBLIC CORRESPONDENCE THAT CAME TO THE TO TO COUNCIL AS WELL AS TO US.

WE INVESTIGATED. WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND LOCATE THE SUSPECT, AND THE SUSPECT WAS ULTIMATELY ARRESTED.

THEY HAD NO AFFILIATION WITH WINDSOR POINT.

AND AS OF OUR MOST RECENT INFORMATION, THE LAST KNOWN LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT WAS OUT IN ESCONDIDO, WHERE THEIR PRIMARY LOCATION WAS.

WE WERE ABLE TO FIND NO CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN THE LOCATION WHERE THIS OCCURRED.

IN CONCLUSION, OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF EVERY INCIDENT THAT'S HAPPENED THERE, BUT THAT'S TRIED TO HIT THE HIGH PROFILE ONES THAT WERE OF SIGNIFICANT CONCERN BOTH TO THE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY.

THE NEED FOR OUR RESPONSES TO THE LOCATION HAS BEEN DECREASED DUE TO OUR ABILITY TO DIVERT A LOT OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR LOW LEVEL ISSUES AND CHRONIC COMPLAINERS. THE TRAINING ON SITE, WE BELIEVE, HAS HELPED, AS WELL AS THE ASSISTANCE OF THE COUNTY'S MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM.

WE ALSO WANT TO REINFORCE THAT IF THERE'S A CALL AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NEEDED, WE WILL RESPOND AND WE WILL TAKE CARE OF WHAT NEEDS TO GET TAKEN CARE OF.

IF THERE'S A CRIME THAT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED, WE WILL RESPOND AND WE WILL TAKE CARE OF INVESTIGATING THAT CRIME.

THE THE FINAL THING, OBVIOUSLY, JUST TO KIND OF BRING US INTO TO CONCLUSION IS THERE HAVE BEEN SOME AREAS OF PROGRESS BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AT THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, BUT THERE ARE AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT THAT ARE STILL NEEDED AND WE AT THIS POINT ASK COUNCIL TO RECEIVE THE REPORT.

WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE IDENTIFIED ACTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS ALREADY PROVIDED US.

WE WILL SEEK ADDITIONAL INPUT AS WELL AS REQUEST FOR YOUR DIRECTION ON RETURNING TO REPORT IN THE FUTURE. AND IF MY COLLEAGUES ARE, I THINK THAT WE'RE CONCLUDED.

IS THAT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION? OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK.

WE'RE GOING TO RESUME AT TEN MINUTES TO SEVEN.

OKAY. CALLING THE MEETING.

BACK TO ORDER. DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? YES. PLEASE CALL THE SPEAKERS.

KRISTINA SELTER, FOLLOWED BY RAUL VILLAMAR.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CHRISTINA ELDER, AND I'M A SENIOR POLICY ADVISOR FROM COUNTY SUPERVISOR TARA LAWSON RIEMER OFFICE.

I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SUPERVISOR, AND I DON'T REPRESENT THIS EVENING THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO'S HOUSING OR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.

THE SUPERVISOR AND OUR TEAM HAVE CONTINUED TO MEET WITH CONCERNED RESIDENTS TO FIRM HOUSING, AND HAVE REGULARLY COMMUNICATED WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

WE APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR FROM OUR OFFICE THAT THIS PROJECT IS A CITY PROJECT CREATED BY THE CITY AND CONTROLLED BY THE CITY.

NEITHER THE COUNTY NOR THE SUPERVISOR HAVE ANY POWER OVER WHETHER THIS PROJECT STAYS OPEN OR CLOSED.

SINCE THE CITY CONTROLS THE LEASE, THE CITY IS THE ENTITY WITH THE SOLE DISCRETION TO CONTINUE OR DISCONTINUE THE PROJECT.

HOWEVER, AS LONG AS THE CITY DECIDES TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT.

THE SUPERVISOR HAS AND CONTINUES TO DO ALL SHE CAN TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT IS A SUCCESS.

PUBLIC SAFETY, ESPECIALLY THE WELL-BEING OF CHILDREN AND THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, ARE A TOP CONCERN OF THE SUPERVISOR.

SHE'S ALSO STRONGLY COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT PEOPLE SLEEPING IN TENTS ON OUR STREETS GET OFF OUR STREETS AND GET THE TREATMENT THAT THEY NEED.

THIS IS WHY SHE HAS PUSHED THE COUNTY TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE STATE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS TO SUPPORT THE CITY BY MAXIMIZING RESERVE FUNDS TO INCREASE ON SITE SECURITY, EXPANDING ON SITE CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND CLINICAL HOURS FROM 24 TO 48 HOURS A WEEK, AND PROVIDING TRAINING TO ALL ON SITE STAFF TO RESPOND TO RESIDENTS IN CRISIS.

AS TONIGHT'S REPORT DEMONSTRATES, THESE ACTIONS ARE HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT, INCLUDING A DECREASE IN POLICE RESPONSES AND AN INCREASE IN REFERRALS TO MORE APPROPRIATE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

BUT THERE DOES REMAIN ADDITIONAL WORK TO BE DONE AND THE SUPERVISOR IS NOT SHYING AWAY FROM THIS WORK.

SHE AND OUR TEAM REMAIN COMMITTED TO UPLIFTING AND PUSHING FOR THESE NEXT STEPS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT IN THE WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT.

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THIS INCLUDES ADVOCATING AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR ONGOING FUNDING FOR ON SITE SECURITY.

PUSHING THE COUNTY TO LOCATE FUNDS FOR ADDITIONAL CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, AND SUPPORTING THE CITY WITH ITS EXPLORATION OF LOCAL PREFERENCE FOR PLACEMENTS AT WINDSOR POINT AND ADJUSTING INCOME CONSIDERATIONS FOR VETERANS.

THE CITY OF CARLSBAD VOTED IN 2022 FOR THIS PROJECT, AND SINCE THAT TIME, THE SUPERVISOR HAS MAXIMIZED HER ROLE AND BEEN AN ACTIVE PARTNER IN PURSUING SOLUTIONS TO THE CHALLENGES AS THEY HAVE PRESENTED THEMSELVES.

SHE AND OUR TEAM WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS LONG AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO OPERATE THE WINDSOR POINT PROJECT.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS RAUL VILLAMAR.

TODAY WAS THE FIRST DAY FOR THE JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

I GET HOME AT ABOUT 230 RIGHT WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS OUT.

I GET ALL THESE PEOPLE WALKING DOWN FROM WINDSOR POINT NEXT TO APARTMENTS AND RIGHT NEXT DOOR, TELLING ME THAT THERE'S A MOLESTER OVER THERE CHASING THEIR THEIR, THEIR THEIR DAUGHTERS AND THEIR KIDS.

THERE'S LAST.

AND THEY HE CAME ON HIS BIKE, HE HAS A BIKE AND HIS WIFE HAS A BIKE.

THEY WORK IN THE RESTAURANTS.

THEY HAVE TO WORK TWO JOBS EACH TO SUPPORT THEIR KIDS.

AND THEY LIKE THAT THEIR BIKES WERE BRAKES WERE GONE.

THE SEAT WAS GONE.

ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF. AND I ASKED HIM WHO DID THE THING NEXT DOOR.

WINDSOR POINT. NOW, THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU SHOWED ME THAT THE GRAPHS OVER HERE, THEY SHOWED 80% OF 22%.

ALL THESE KIND OF GRAPHS. HE GOES, NONE OF THE LATINOS ARE GOING TO CALL YOU FOLKS.

NONE OF THE LATINOS ARE GOING TO FOLLOW YOU FOLKS.

THEY COME FROM COUNTRIES WHERE IF YOU CALL A COP, THEY'RE GOING TO BEAT YOU UP OR THEY'RE GOING TO KILL YOU.

SO IMAGINE IF THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO CALL YOU.

NO THEY'RE NOT. THEY COME TO ME.

I'M I DON'T KNOW HOW I GOT IT, BUT I'M THE SPOKESMAN FOR THEM.

MY WIFE.

TODAY WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

SHE WORKED AT JEFFERSON AT THE FRONT DESK.

SHE'S SPANISH SPEAKING.

TRANSLATED. AND THEY WERE ALL UPSET.

THAT'S WHY THEY CAME TO SEE HER.

THEY THEY KEPT ON TELLING US ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF I'M TALKING TO.

I'M TALKING TO THE GENTLEMAN HERE.

THE ONE THAT GOT HIS BIKE PARKED, STOLEN.

AND SHE'S TALKING TO THE OTHER LADY WHO'S TELLING HER THAT THEY WERE TELLING ME THAT THEY WERE.

THE PEOPLE FROM NEXT DOOR ARE SMOKING, DRINKING, HAVING GOOD OLD PARTIES.

I DROVE BY THE BEFORE I CAME TO TO TO THE COUNCIL MEETING.

THEY WERE FIXING THE GATES.

THEY WAS FIXING THE THEY HAD THE THE GATES OUT THERE.

THEY'RE SETTING THE ALARMS OPEN.

THE ALARMS WOULDN'T GO OFF, WOULDN'T GO ON.

MY STEP MOM BROKE HER FEMUR.

LIKE I SAID LAST TIME, SHE IF I WENT TO VISIT HER, THEY'D HAVE A FACIAL RECOGNITION.

THEY HAD ALL THESE KIND OF STUFF FOR OLD PEOPLE.

NOW HERE.

NOBODY. WE HAVEN'T SEEN SECURITY OVER THERE.

WE'RE HAVING TO THE SECURITY FOR THEM TO BE STEALING FROM THEIR FROM THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.

THERE'S NO SECURITY.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY.

I HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN SOME, BUT WE WE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THEM TO STAY.

I WANT IT GONE.

I'M TIRED OF WAKING UP AT NIGHT.

MY DAUGHTER COMES OVER WITH MY SEVEN MONTH OLD GRANDSON.

HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO THEM, BECAUSE THEN I'M.

I'M IN TROUBLE. I'LL BE IN JAIL.

BUT NEXT, ACROSS THE STREET YOU'RE GOING TO PUT DOWN.

YOU'RE GOING TO. I WAS HERE WITH THE, THE THE APARTMENTS THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE'S GOING TO BE LOW INCOME AND VERY LOW INCOME.

THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FACING CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE ANYMORE.

IT'S GOING TO BE FACING OAK.

I HAVE PICTURES OF THE ONE IN OCEANSIDE, WHICH IS ALL LIKE A WALL WITH LITTLE WINDOWS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO MY MY PROPERTY ALL FIVE STOREYS.

WHEN IT'S GOING TO END, PLEASE GIVE ME.

JULIE AT YOUR DOOR.

FOLLOWED BY LAURA BONUSES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M GOING TO START BY COMPLIMENTING MANDY.

IT'S SO NICE TO FINALLY HEAR A SUCCESS STORY AND SEEING SOMEBODY PUT IN STATE PRISON.

GOOD. I DO HAVE SOME DOUBTS IF THAT WAS ONE OF THE HIGH PROFILE CASES, BECAUSE THAT ONE WAS REPORTED IN EARLY 2024.

IF IT WAS ACTUALLY THE JULY 23RD OFFENDER.

AND RAUL, WHEN I SEE HIM HERE, HE TELLS ME THAT SOME WINDSOR POINT RESIDENT WITH HIS ON OAK, WITH HIS PANTS HALF DOWN, IS CHASING AROUND THE KINDERGARTEN GIRLS.

ANY SUCCESSES THAT WE HAVE REALLY, REALLY NEED TO BE PROTECTED.

PLEASE PROTECT THE SUCCESSES AND I REALLY APPRECIATE OUR POLICE.

I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HOPE THAT MANDY WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER.

THAT ONE OF YOU WILL TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO ASK, AND THAT WOULD BE ABOUT THE UTILIZATION OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES THAT ARE THERE FOR 44 HOURS A WEEK.

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I DON'T KNOW IF SHE TRACKS THAT.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT IF THAT IS NOT HER JOB, BUT HOW MUCH OF THESE SERVICES ARE THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF BECAUSE THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO DO THAT.

ANOTHER THOUGHT IS IN THE WRITTEN REPORT THAT MANDY SO NICELY DELIVERED.

THERE WAS ALSO SOMETHING FROM THE COUNTY WHICH CHRISTINE IS HERE FROM THERE ABOUT SOME OTHER PLACES THAT WERE OPENING.

ONE OF THEM IS CALLED GREENBRIAR.

IT'S IN OCEANSIDE.

IT'S WALKING DISTANCE TO THE METH CLINIC, IT'S WALKING DISTANCE TO THE WOMEN RESOURCES OFFICE AND HEADQUARTERS, NOT JUST A STORE.

COULD SOME OF THE RESIDENTS BE SERVED BETTER IF THEY WERE IN LOCATIONS WHERE THAT WAS ADJACENT? NOT EXACTLY ADJACENT, BUT AS CLOSE AS THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS? COULD WINDSOR POINT BE REPURPOSED TO USE SOME OF THE THINGS FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY NEED THEM, LIKE THE EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED KIDS COULD USE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? SENIOR CITIZENS ARE THE HIGHEST GROWING GROUP OF HOMELESS PEOPLE, ACCORDING TO SOME COUNTY DATA.

WE YOU MAY HAVE HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT OUR SENIOR CENTER.

IT SEEMS TO BE MENTIONED IN PUBLIC COMMENT EVERY WEEK.

PEOPLE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

IT COULD BE REPURPOSED VERY NICELY.

AND SOME OF OUR PROBLEMS GO SOMEPLACE WHERE THOSE PEOPLE'S NEEDS ARE BETTER MET BY RESOURCES THAT EXIST.

THANK YOU.

WINDSOR POINT HAS ALREADY COST CARLSBAD TAXPAYERS AN ESTIMATED $28.2 MILLION, BASED ON AFFIRMED HOUSING BUDGETS.

WINDSOR POINT HAS OPERATED AT AN ANNUAL LOSS OF $1.3 MILLION.

THERE HAS BEEN OVER 984 CALLS FOR THE POLICE AND OTHER EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR VERY SERIOUS INCIDENCES INCLUDING ATTEMPTED MURDER, BURGLARY, MULTIPLE DRUG DEALING CASES, DOMESTIC ABUSE, DEATH, CHILD ABUSE, CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE.

A RESIDENT WHO IS ALLEGEDLY PROSTITUTING HER FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD TO SUPPORT HER DRUG HABIT AND GIVEN THE OPTION TO GO INTO TREATMENT OR FACE JAIL.

A MALE TENANT THREATENED TO LIGHT A PREGNANT WOMAN AND HER UNBORN BABY ON FIRE AT WINDSOR POINT.

NOT ONLY HAS THE COUNTY IMPORTED INDIVIDUALS WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS, SUCH AS MURDERERS, AND GIVEN THEM HOUSING AT WINDSOR POINT, IT HAS BEEN ATTRACTING THOSE WHO PREY UPON THIS VULNERABLE GROUP WHO RECEIVE HOUSING WITH POROUS SECURITY.

JUST CONSIDER FOR A MOMENT HOW THAT TENANT, WHO IS PROSTITUTING HER CHILD, DREW AVAILABLE CUSTOMERS INTO HER AREA NEAR OUR SCHOOLS AND CHILDREN'S PARKS.

IF PAST INCIDENCES ARE THE BEST PREDICTOR OF FUTURE PROBLEMS, THE ACTIONS THE CITY HAS TAKEN IN RESPONSE WILL UNDOUBTEDLY SERVE ONLY AS A BAND-AID AT BEST.

ON WHAT PROVES TO BE A FLAWED DESIGN ON A PROJECT THAT IS NOW EMBEDDED IN CARLSBAD FOR THE NEXT 55 YEARS, PER THE AGREEMENT.

WITH NO PLACE LIKE HOME FUNDS.

THIS PROJECT WAS NEVER GOING TO BE PRIMARILY FOR FAMILIES, BECAUSE OVER 85% OF THE UNITS ARE STUDIO ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

THAT WAS A LIE GIVEN TO US BY AFFIRMED HOUSING.

BY DESIGN, THIS PROJECT WAS NEVER GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR HOUSING VETERANS BECAUSE THE LOW INCOME PARAMETERS PROHIBITED BENEFITS RECEIVING VETERANS.

AND THAT'S A FLAW ON BHAT-PATEL AND BLACKBURN FOR NOT DOING THEIR HOMEWORK WHEN REVIEWING THIS PROJECT AND GIVING APPROVAL.

THIS WILL BE YOUR LEGACY THE MOST FINANCIALLY AND FISCALLY.

SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE COURSE OF ACTION IS TO PERMANENTLY ALTER THE ENTIRE DESIGN, MOVE IT OR SHUT IT DOWN.

THERE ARE OVER 20 NO PLACE LIKE HOME HOUSING FACILITIES IN OPERATION THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, AND THERE ARE OVER A DOZEN OF NO PLACE LIKE OWNED PROPERTIES SET TO OPEN IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE THAT CAN ABSORB ANY EXCESS DEMAND, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, MEETING THE HIGH NEEDS OF MEDICAL SERVICES AND SAFER AND MORE SECURE BUILDING STRUCTURES FOR THESE TENANTS, THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR SAID AT A PUBLICLY HELD MEETING THAT CARLSBAD HAS THE LEASE WITH AFFIRMED HOUSING IN CARLSBAD IS ON THE HOOK TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

IN THIS CURRENT ARRANGEMENT, CARLSBAD CAN GET OUT OF THIS PROJECT EXTRICATE ITSELF FROM THE LEASE.

IT SEEMS THAT CARLSBAD IS LEAVING ITSELF WIDE OPEN FOR LAWSUITS ON A NUMBER OF FRONTS.

THE WINDSOR POINT PROJECT IS THE ONLY AFFIRMED HOUSING PROJECT THAT HOUSES NO PLACE LIKE HOME, REQUIRING SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL DIAGNOSIS IN ORDER TO BE INCLUDED.

AFFIRMED HOUSING HAS NO EXPERIENCE OR EXPERTISE IN HOUSING WITH THOSE WITH THIS DIAGNOSIS, AND THEY TOLD US THAT IN THEIR MEETINGS WHEN THEY WERE PROPOSING IT.

AFFIRMED HOUSING MANAGEMENT COMPANY TOOK OUT AN INSURANCE POLICY THAT APPEARS TO BE TOO LOW FOR THE SEVERITY OF INCIDENCES THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED ON THE PROPERTY.

DOCTOR BURKHOLDER IS WELL AWARE OF HOW FED UP WE ARE AS CONSTITUENTS OF D1.

AND IT IS TIME.

YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED, MA'AM.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS A GROUP DENNIS JENSEN REPRESENTING MARY JENSEN.

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BOB JENSEN AND ANNIKA JENSEN.

ALL RIGHT. HERE. HERE WE ARE AGAIN.

MISS CALDERWOOD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT I'M FINDING WAS A REFRESHING TAKE ON YOUR EXPERIENCE AND THE TRANSPARENCY THAT WE DON'T FREQUENTLY HEAR FROM A STAFF REPORT.

I'VE HEARD SIMILAR STORIES FROM OTHER POLICE.

I'VE TALKED TO MANY POLICE ABOUT WINDSOR POINT, AND I ALWAYS KIND OF EXPECT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, DON'T DON'T DON'T WORRY YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEAD.

WE'VE GOT IT ALL UNDER CONTROL.

THEY DO NOT SAY THAT AT ALL.

THEY DESPISE WINDSOR POINT AND THEY ALL HAVE SIMILAR STORIES OF THIS.

I'VE HEARD.

I DON'T STAY OUT LATE MUCH, BUT POLICE TELL ME THAT THAT CARS PULL UP OUTSIDE WINDSOR POINT AND CAR LOADS OF PEOPLE GET OUT AND JUMP OVER THE FENCE.

NOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, AND THEN WE HEAR THAT OF COURSE IT'S NOT LOOKED AT.

SO WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT EVERY VAGUE, EVERY UTTERLY VAGUE PROMISE WE'RE GIVEN IS, IS EXECUTED TO THE POOREST LEVEL. SO, YEAH, THERE'S VIDEO SURVEILLANCE.

WELL, NOBODY WATCHES IT.

WELL, THERE'S SCREENING FOR SEX OFFENDERS.

WELL, WE FOUND A SEX OFFENDER THERE WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF OPENING, AND HE'S STILL THERE.

WE SEE HIM ALMOST DAILY.

NEIGHBORS TAKE PHOTOS OF THE GUY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT GUY, BUT IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO LIKE, WHO'S THERE? WHO'S NOT THERE? YOU HAVE POLICE.

POLICE? TELL ME YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO'S COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT FACILITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, NOW WE NOW WE KNOW WHY EVERYONE'S ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL.

NOBODY CARES.

THE REASON THERE'S NOT MORE PEOPLE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUE IS BECAUSE THEY'VE SAID THEY'VE SPOKEN THEIR MIND TO COUNCIL, AND THEY DON'T THINK THAT YOU CARE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T REALLY DISAGREE THERE.

I'M NOT SEEING ANY ACTION.

THE STAFF REPORT THE THE SO-CALLED PROGRESS REPORT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE.

I'M NOT SEEING ANY PROGRESS, FRANKLY.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO JUSTIFY WHAT A FINANCIAL STRAIN THIS IS TO THE CITY POLICE AND FIRE.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY FIRE STATISTICS, BUT I LIVE NEAR WINDSOR POINT AND I SEE FIRE TRUCKS THERE ALL THE TIME.

I SEE POLICE THERE ALL THE TIME.

JUST LAST WEDNESDAY THERE WAS A POLICE CAR THERE FOR SIX HOURS.

IT'S IT'S A DRAIN.

LET'S LET'S CALL A SPADE A SPADE.

THIS IS A FINANCIAL DRAIN ON THE CITY.

WE CAN DICE LIKE ALL THE STATISTICS HOWEVER YOU WANT TO, BUT TO ME, IT JUST.

IT REALLY FEELS LIKE NOTHING LESS THAN SPIN.

WHY ARE WE BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO PROTECT THIS DEVELOPER? IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

SO AGAIN, MISS CALDERWOOD, THANKS FOR THE REFRESHING TAKE OF LIKE, A LEGITIMATE, HONEST EXPERIENCE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO SHARE WITH US.

BECAUSE I DON'T HEAR A LOT OF, OF OF TRANSPARENCY IN ANY OF THIS.

IT ALL FEELS LIKE A BUNCH OF SPIN TO ME.

LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WINDSOR POINT IS.

WINDSOR POINT IS A HOUSING PROJECT FOR SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL HOMELESS THAT SOCIAL WORKERS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY SEND THEIR PROBLEM HOMELESS TO.

IT DOES NEXT TO NOTHING TO HELP OUR LOCAL HOMELESS.

I HEARD TODAY THERE'S FIVE PEOPLE WITH CARLSBAD AFFILIATION AGAIN COUNTING ON LIKE THE WORST EXECUTION OF THAT DEFINITION, I'M GOING TO ASSUME MAYBE THEY'VE HEARD OF CARLSBAD. MAYBE THEY HAVE A RELATIVE IN CARLSBAD WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS.

IT HAS DONE NEXT TO NOTHING FOR FOR OUR VETERANS, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR, THIS WAS SOLD TO US AS BEING RESTRICTED FOR, FOR VETERANS THAT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S IN A COUNCIL PRESENTATION RESTRICTED FOR VETERANS.

AND NOW THERE ARE SIX VETERANS IN THE LAST MEETING AND NOW THERE'S EIGHT VETERANS.

WHAT DOES VETERANS MEAN? I KNOW FOR NO PLACE LIKE HOME, A VETERAN IS CONSIDERED A VET.

IF THIS PERSON HAS SERVED JUST 90 DAYS IN THE MILITARY AND BEEN DISHONORABLY DISCHARGED, THAT'S HOW THEY DEFINE VETERAN.

SO WHEN I HEAR VETERAN, I HAVE NO FAITH THAT IT'S A WAR HERO.

IT'S SOMEBODY WHO DID DRUGS IN BOOT CAMP WHO KNOWS WHAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T COUNT ON ON LIKE AN HONEST ASSESSMENT OR COMMUNICATION OF ANYTHING REGARDING WINDSOR POINT AT THIS POINT TENANT PROBLEMS 984 FIRST RESPONDER NEEDS AGAIN, WE CAN WE CAN DICE THAT UP HOWEVER YOU WANT TO AND SPIN IT HOWEVER WE WANT TO.

BUT THAT THAT THAT'S A LOT.

WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR IN THE PRESENTATION WAS WHAT LAURA BROUGHT UP THAT A TENANT WAS ARRESTED FOR THREATENING A PREGNANT WOMAN, SAYING HE WAS GOING TO LIGHT HER AND HER UNBORN CHILD ON FIRE.

THAT'S WHO'S AT WINDSOR POINT.

THERE WAS A TENANT YELLING, I'M GOING TO KILL YOU AT NEIGHBOR KIDS.

THERE WAS A TENANT WHO LEAPT FROM A THIRD FLOOR WINDOW.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT.

WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT? WHY, WHY, WHY IS IT ALWAYS SKEWED TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, THIS PLACE BEING DESCRIBED AS DISNEYLAND? IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.

LET'S, LET'S LET'S JUST BE HONEST.

LET'S HAVE AN HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

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AND DESPITE CONTINUED COMMUNITY DEMANDS AND CONTINUED PROBLEMS AT THE FACILITY, THERE'S STILL HALF THE SECURITY THAT THAT THAT MICKEY WILLIAMS SAID IT NEEDED.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, VERY VAGUE DESCRIPTIONS OF SCREENING FOR VISITORS.

I HAVE TO ASSUME IT'S THE WORST CASE EXECUTION OF WHATEVER IS VAGUELY DESCRIBED THERE AS WELL.

AND FRANKLY, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THESE, THESE SECURITY MEASURES AND KEEP THE PLACE SAFE FOR TENANTS AND NEIGHBORS, IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSED.

MISS BURKHOLDER, I'VE SEEN YOU ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS TO THE CITY STAFF.

I'M HOPING YOU CAN ASK THEM WHY.

SERIOUS COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT WERE SO GLOSSED OVER IN THE IN THE IN THE UPDATE, AND WHY THEY'RE SO SOFT ON THE DEVELOPER.

THE DEVELOPERS ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO RUN A QUALITY OPERATION IN THE GROUND LEASE.

WHY? WHY ARE WE USING PUBLIC FUNDS TO PAY FOR SECURITY? WHY ARE WHY ARE THEY NOT OBLIGATED TO DO THAT? WHY IN THE IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN JANUARY 2020 ON VIDEO THAT EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT THE MAYOR HALL WAS, WAS TOLD THAT YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WERE THERE WERE A LOT OF OF OF STATE AND COUNTY ENTITIES INVOLVED.

AND HE HE ASKED, YOU KNOW, WILL WE STILL HAVE CONTROL OVER WINDSOR POINT.

AND HE WAS ANSWERED. THE ANSWER WAS YES, WE WILL STILL HAVE CONTROL.

AND YET NOW THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS, WELL, IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S STATE AND COUNTY CONTROL AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO GET OUT OF IT.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE BETWEEN THAT? WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN? YES. WE WILL HAVE CONTROL AND NO, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

AND WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN.

YES, THIS IS GOING TO BE TO HELP OUR VETERANS.

AND, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY WE DON'T KEEP TRACK OF THE NUMBER OF VETERANS THERE.

AND UNLESS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ASKS WHY IS THERE STILL NO MEANINGFUL ACTION? YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST HEARING A BUNCH OF RHETORIC ABOUT ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, STAFF TRAINING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, NONCOMMITTAL SECURITY FUNDING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS HOW LONG THAT WILL GO FOR.

I WAS TOLD TALKING TO THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR THAT IT WAS LIKE SIX MONTHS.

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FAITH IN ANY OF THIS.

AND AND, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, WE'RE AT A WITS END AND WE NEED SOME CHANGE.

WE NEED SERIOUS CHANGE. WE NEED THIS PLACE CLOSED OR MOVED.

THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR WAS VERY CLEAR, SAYING THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT.

IT'S APPARENTLY MORE COMPLICATED TO CHANGE.

NO PLACE LIKE HOME. BUT SHE'S BEEN VERY CLEAR SAYING THAT YOU DO HAVE THE POWER TO CLOSE IT DOWN.

I WOULD LIKE IT MOVED, FRANKLY, IF THAT CAN BE DONE.

NOBODY WANTS TO PUT HOMELESS OUT ON THE STREETS.

WE'RE ALL FOR GOOD HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, BUT WE REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS PLACE WAS PUT NEXT TO FAMILIES AND KIDS.

SO AGAIN, I'M ASKING YOU TO TO TAKE PROPER AND MEANINGFUL ACTION.

THIS PLACE WAS PUT NEXT TO FAMILIES AND IT'S THE WRONG ENTITY.

IT'S THE WRONG FACILITY.

IT'S BEEN PROVEN.

THIS DOES NOT THIS SHOULD NOT BE.

NEXT, PUT NEXT TO OUR FAMILIES.

THANK YOU. MICHAEL SCHERTZER, FOLLOWED BY PAT WILLEN.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

I DECIDED THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS TO READ ALL OF THE REGULATORY AGREEMENTS AND THE LOAN AGREEMENTS.

SO IT'S ABOUT 100 AND SOMETHING PAGES AND A PAIN IN THE BUTT ANYHOW.

I DID DISCOVER SOMETHING INTERESTING AND IT PROBABLY RELATES TO SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING THIS EVENING.

I REALLY EXPECT THE CITY TO ENFORCE AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS MADE SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER, JUST THE TWO, AND THAT'S IN ONE OF THE REGULATORY AGREEMENTS.

AND THIS IS AN AGREEMENT MADE BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY AND CARLSBAD VETERANS HOUSING.

OKAY. AND WHAT IS IT? IT'S THAT IT'S UNDER SAFETY CONDITIONS 5.6.

THE DEVELOPER AGREES TO IMPLEMENT AND MAINTAIN THROUGHOUT THE TERM THE FOLLOWING SECURITY MEASURES IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY, I'LL READ IT AGAIN.

THE DEVELOPER AGREES TO IMPLEMENT AND MAINTAIN THE FOLLOWING.

TO WORK WITH THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT TO IMPLEMENT AND OPERATE AN EFFECTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM.

THERE IS NO RESPONSIBILITY THAT DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE CITY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAMS. USUALLY THE POLICE ARE THERE IF THERE'S TO BE ACTIVE INTERVENTION.

SO IN THE SIZE OF THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ONE POLICE OFFICER WOULD BE PLENTY.

OKAY. AND BUT THE OBSERVERS, THE IN MY OPINION, THE AFFIRMED IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF THEY

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HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PROGRAM.

THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE.

THEY HAVE TO IMPLEMENT OPERATE, AND MAINTAIN AN EFFECTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM.

IF THEY FAIL, YOU COULD SUE THEM IN COURT.

IT'S EVEN IN THE AGREEMENT.

SO I EXPECT THE CITY ATTORNEYS TO READ TO READ WHAT I JUST SAID.

IF YOU'RE NOT SURE ABOUT IT, JUST GRAB ME AFTERWARDS.

BUT I THINK YOU CAN BE AGGRESSIVE ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S SPECIFICALLY AGREED TO BY YOU TWO PARTIES.

OKAY. THANKS.

PAT WHELAN. STEPHANIE WHELAN.

LORI ROBBINS.

GOOD EVENING.

ACTUALLY, THIS PROGRESS REPORT SHOWS THAT THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE AT WINDSOR POINT HAS INCREASED BY 50%, DESPITE THE ACTIONS TAKEN SINCE MARCH TO INCREASE SECURITY AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

CALLS HAVE INCREASED FROM ONE CALL A DAY TO ONE AND A HALF CALLS PER DAY.

WINDSOR POINT RESIDENTS GENERATE TEN TIMES MORE CALLS PER PERSON THAN ALL THE REST OF CARLSBAD.

THIS IS A DIRE SITUATION FOR THE WINDSOR RESIDENTS.

AND EVEN AFTER ASKING FOR POSITIVE CHANGES, WE ARE UNBELIEVABLY HAVING A NEGATIVE ESCALATION.

THIS AFFECTS EVERY DISTRICT, EVERY CITIZEN, BY USING PRECIOUS RESOURCES IN ONLY ONE COMMUNITY.

WHAT SHOULD THE CITY DO? AFFIRMED HOUSING RECEIVED 10 MILLION FROM NO PLACE LIKE HOME.

WITH THAT 10 MILLION, THEY TOOK ON THE RESPONSIBILITY TO RUN A DECENT AND SAFE FACILITY FOR SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL RESIDENTS.

AFFIRMED IS CLEARLY RESPONSIBLE.

THE CITY HAS ASKED FOR 24 HOUR SECURITY AND ON SITE MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS.

AFFIRMED HAS STILL NOT DELIVERED.

AFFIRMED HOUSING NEEDS TO TAKE ACTION AND NOT LET THEIR FOR PROFIT STRUCTURE PREVENT THEM FROM DOING THE RIGHT THING.

IT IS A FIRM'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE THE ACTION.

SECTION 5.1 OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

THE CURRENT LEASE AGREEMENT STATES THAT THE CITY HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY OVER MANAGEMENT.

THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE AND MUST OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE TO THE AGREEMENT IN A MANNER THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY.

THIS INCLUDES PROVIDING A DECENT, SAFE AND SANITARY HOUSING.

CITY COUNCIL HAS THE POWER UNDER THE CURRENT LEASE TO DIRECT STAFF TO TAKE ACTION.

THE CITY CAN ASK FOR AN ACTION PLAN TO REDUCE THE SERVICE CALL IN HALF BY 6 IN 6 MONTHS.

THE CITY CAN REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE MANAGEMENT AGENT, REPLACE CONFIRM WITH A MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT HAS A SUCCESSFUL TRACK RECORD MANAGING HOUSING FOR THE MENTALLY ILL.

FINALLY, THE CITY CAN COMPEL FOR PERFORMANCE OR ASK FOR DAMAGES.

WE NEED TO FIX THIS.

PLEASE TAKE ACTION.

THANK YOU.

THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE I ANTICIPATE THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT CONAM.

I'M GOING TO STEP OFF THE DAIS.

CALL ME WHEN YOU'VE COMPLETED THIS ITEM.

AND I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT IN THE CAPABLE HANDS OF PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I'LL LOOK TO MY COLLEAGUES TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND WE CAN EITHER GO DOWN THE LINE OR WE CAN START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER.

IF YOU'D LIKE. I'D BE HAPPY TO.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM.

I HAVE TO PUT MY EYEBALLS IN.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT THAT MR.

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JENSEN WAS ASKING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE EITHER ONE OF THEM.

I THINK ACTUALLY, MISS JULIE ASKED THIS ONE ABOUT TRACKING THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH USAGES.

DO WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO EVEN DO THAT? NO, I DON'T THINK WE CAN.

I MEAN, THAT'S CONSIDERED A CLIENT PROVIDER INFORMATION AND PROTECTED HEALTH INFORMATION.

YEAH. SOME METRIC THERE MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL IF WE'RE CONTINUING TO ASK FOR MORE SUPPORT SERVICES.

IF THEY'RE USING THEM, GREAT.

BUT IF THEY'RE NOT, MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE BEST USE OF THE MONEY.

OKAY. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT CONAM THIS IS PROBABLY A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION.

CAN THE PROJECT NOT PHYSICALLY BE MOVED, BUT CAN THE PEOPLE BE MOVED TO ANOTHER LOCATION UNDER THE SAME CONTRACTUAL TERMS? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY LEGAL METHOD TO DO THAT.

ANY FEASIBLE LEGAL METHOD TO DO THAT.

GOT IT. I HEARD SOME MENTION OF PUBLIC FUNDS BEING USED FOR SECURITY AT THE FACILITY, BUT I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT IS NOT HAPPENING TODAY.

WELL, THE PUBLIC FUNDS THE CAPITAL OPERATING SUBSIDY RESERVE THAT COMES FROM THE COUNTY, RIGHT.

I WAS THINKING OF CARLSBAD PUBLIC FUNDS.

SORRY. CORRECT. YES.

OKAY. SO, YES.

THE COUNTY IS DEFINITELY.

YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO FINISH THAT SENTENCE? JUST SO IT'S. YES.

THE FUNDS FROM THE CAPITAL OPERATING SUBSIDY RESERVE ARE NO PLACE LIKE HOME FUNDS, WHICH ARE FROM THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ACT.

HAS THAT BEEN ANY SORT OF IMPEDIMENT FOR.

BECAUSE THERE ARE VETERANS AND NO PLACE LIKE HOME RESIDENTS MIXED IN WITH EACH OTHER? IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE? YEAH, THERE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A NEXUS BETWEEN THE NEED FOR THE SECURITY BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS.

AND REALLY THE, THE OPERATING SUBSIDY RESERVE IS NOT PAYING FOR THAT IN PARTICULAR.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY GET AN INVOICE AND PAY THAT BILL.

IT'S REALLY FOR THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.

LIKE WHAT IS THE GAP OF FUNDING COMPARED TO THE REVENUE.

SO LIKE THEY PROVIDE AN OPERATING SUBSIDY RESERVE BECAUSE THE PROJECT HAS MORE EXPENSES THAN IT HAS REVENUE.

RIGHT. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT I ACTUALLY WATCHED THE SAME MEETINGS WHEN THIS WAS COMING INTO FRUITION, WHERE THE QUESTION WAS POSED, WILL CARLSBAD MAINTAIN THE CONTROL? AND THE ANSWER WAS YES ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OCCASIONS.

SO THE QUESTION BECAME, WELL, HOW HAS THAT CHANGED? SO I DON'T KNOW WHOSE QUESTION THAT SHOULD BE.

COUNCIL MEMBER WE DO HAVE AS WAS MENTIONED BY SOME OF THE SPEAKERS, A NUMBER OF PROVISIONS IN OUR REGULATORY AGREEMENT AND LEASE AGREEMENT THAT DO ALLOW US TO EXERCISE CONTROL OVER THIS FACILITY, AND THAT IS EXACTLY AS MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT COUNCIL IS DOING TONIGHT.

YES. EXERCISING THAT CONTROL.

YES, MA'AM. AND I THINK THAT SORT OF BRINGS US TO SOME OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGE AND HOW WE WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PROCEED WITH BASED ON SOME OF WHAT THE CHIEF SHARED WITH US TONIGHT ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE.

BY THE WAY, REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE OKAY.

BUT JUST WITH REGARD TO THAT, BECAUSE IT'S THIS SEEMS LIKE A MATRIX THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO SORT OF UNWIND.

AFFIRMED AS THE DEVELOPER CONAM IS THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WORKING FOR ON BEHALF OF AFFIRMED AND CON M WOULD ESSENTIALLY HAVE A MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT THEY IMPLEMENT AT THIS LOCATION.

YES, YES, THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS BETWEEN AFFIRMED AND CONAM OKAY.

SO BUT THEY'RE WORKING FOR US OR THEY'RE WORKING FOR AFFIRMED AT OUR LOCATION BECAUSE WE HAVE THE GROUND LEASE.

CORRECT. IT FOLLOWS THE GROUND LEASE IS BETWEEN THE CITY AND WITH AFFIRMED, OR MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE LIMITED PARTNERSHIP THAT IS CREATED BY AFFIRMED HOUSING AND THEN IN TURN, THAT LIMITED PARTNERSHIP THEN HIRES HIRED CONAM TO ACT AS THEIR AGENT.

RIGHT. OKAY.

AND WHAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED IS THAT THERE IS SECURITY THERE FROM 6 P.M.

TO 6 A.M. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AT BOTH LOCATIONS.

BOTH LOCATIONS. WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS 24 HOUR SURVEILLANCE BEING MONITORED.

LIVE MONITORED.

CORRECT. OKAY.

AND NOW WE KNOW THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

AT LEAST BASED ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCE FROM OUR CHIEF OF POLICE.

SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH.

THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. SO I'M TRYING TO JUST MAKE SURE I'M COVERING ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.

THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES, FOR BEING VERY PATIENT AND ALWAYS GIVING THIS ISSUE AS MUCH TIME AS IT NEEDS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THE CHIEF AND ASSISTANT CHIEF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR THOROUGH EXPLANATION TO, YOU KNOW, HOW CALLS ARE PRIORITIZED AND WHAT TYPE OF

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CALLS THAT WE'RE SEEING, THAT YOU'RE SEEING AND THEN YOU'RE RESPONDING TO.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT THAT COULD CHANGE WITH REGARD TO HOW THE FACILITY IS RUN TO HELP YOUR JOB? IT'S HARD WHEN THERE'S TWO OF US UP HERE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S SUPPOSED TO ANSWER.

I THINK WITH RESPECT TO CALL FOR SERVICE DATA, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT'S A COMBINATION OF A VARIETY OF FACTORS.

AND I THINK THE PROACTIVE APPROACH OF IDENTIFYING ONGOING PROBLEM, PROBLEM INDIVIDUALS AT THE AT THE LOCATION, AND TAKING A PROACTIVE RESPONSE TO ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES IS VERY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THEN WE CAN HAVE THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CREATING A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF PROBLEMS AT THE LOCATION, CAN EVENTUALLY EITHER BE MOVED ON TO BETTER FACILITY, BETTER SERVICES, OR CAN BE EVICTED FROM THE LOCATION THERE. AS WAS PRESENTED EARLIER.

THERE HAVE BEEN STEPS TO DOING THAT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE BEING MISSED.

AND I THINK THAT FOLLOWING THE CHIEF'S OBSERVATIONS, OBVIOUSLY THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS GOING TO GET ADDRESSED VERY DIRECTLY.

BUT THERE THIS WE SORT OF RE HAVE RE-UPPED OUR COMMITMENT AND OUR PERSPECTIVE THAT THE 24 HOUR SECURITY, I THINK IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE WHILE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, WHEN OUR OFFICERS RESPOND ARE ENGAGED, THEY DO INTERACT WITH OUR OFFICERS, THEY ARE HELPFUL WITH OUR OFFICERS WHEN THEY'RE ON SITE, AND THAT'S BEEN REPORTED BACK TO US BY SUPERVISION.

IT'S LIKELY THAT IT'S CHALLENGING FOR THEM TO BE MONITORING THE LOCATION DURING THE ENTIRETY OF THE DAY.

AND WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING OR WHY THEY WEREN'T AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE OAK LOCATION.

BUT IF THEY HAD A SECONDARY SUPPORT, A SECURITY GUARD WHO WAS THERE, POTENTIALLY SECURITY GUARD COULD HAVE OBSERVED THIS AND COULD HAVE INTERDICTED IT BEFORE IT BECAME AN ISSUE AND LIKELY HAD BEFORE WE REACHED THE POINT THAT WOULD BE SORT OF THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT WE HAVE.

THERE ARE, HOWEVER, LIMITATIONS TO CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THAT WE CAN'T PREVENT PEOPLE FROM CALLING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND MANY OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

AND SO THAT GOES TO THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION THAT WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT IS CONTINUED HIGHER LEVELS OF CARE FOR THOSE TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS SO THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING THE CARE TO THE FULL EXTENT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO APPLY THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE WERE FROM A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THIS LOCATION.

OKAY. I HAVE COMMENTS I'M REALLY, REALLY NOT HAPPY RIGHT NOW, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

IT IS A COMPLETE LACK OF LEADERSHIP AND A FAILURE ON A FIRM'S PART TO NOT HAVE IN PLACE WHAT THEY PROMISED US OVER TWO YEARS AGO NOW.

AND LOOKING OUT IN HERE, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME AFFIRMED PEOPLE HERE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 24 HOUR SECURITY. NOT OKAY.

I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP ON MY LITTLE SOAPBOX BECAUSE I DO HAVE COMMENTS, AND I ALSO HAVE SOME REQUESTS, SOME DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER LATER, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I HAVE A PLETHORA OF COMMENTS.

HOWEVER, I'M SURE COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER WILL PROBABLY CAPTURE MOST OF THEM, SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND DEFER AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. SO NO QUESTIONS.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THE INFORMATION.

THIS WAS VERY HELPFUL.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION AND QUESTIONS, AND I WANTED TO ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION FIRST ABOUT THE COUNTY'S ROLE AND COMMITMENT HERE, BECAUSE I HEARD SOME PUBLIC COMMENT THAT ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE THE COUNTY WAS NOT THAT MUCH INVOLVED.

AND I WANT TO CLARIFY AND CORRECT THE RECORD AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE COUNTY'S ROLE IS HERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ASK, BUT WHETHER IT'S COUNTY HOUSING OR COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES, THERE'S THE COUNTY IS INTEGRALLY INTEGRATED IN ITS. YES. I CAN'T SAY THE WORD VERY INVOLVED.

AND IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

OF COURSE. SO THE THERE'S TWO KEY DEPARTMENTS, AND THAT'S HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES.

SO THERE IS FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

NO PLACE LIKE HOME.

THAT THEN IS BASICALLY ADMINISTERED BY THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.

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SO THEY ARE DIRECTLY ALLOWED TO THEN PURSE, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW REGULATIONS OF THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME PROGRAM.

AND THEN THEY ADMINISTER THOSE FUNDS.

SO THE FUNDING FOR THE ACTUAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND THE OPERATIONS AND THE OPERATING SUBSIDY RESERVES.

SO, THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME FUNDING THAT IS ADMINISTERED FROM HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THEN AS AN OBLIGATION OF THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME FUNDING.

THE COUNTY IS ALSO OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO THEIR RESIDENTS OF THOSE UNITS.

SO THEN COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDES THROUGH CONTRACT THROUGH ALPHA, THEY PROVIDE TENANT PEER SUPPORT SERVICES ON SITE.

GREAT. THANK YOU. AND CAN YOU CLARIFY THE TIME FRAME LIKE THIS WASN'T JUST A QUICK THING.

MAYBE YEAR TO YEAR.

THERE'S A TIME FRAME HERE, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO THE REGULATIONS ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE NO PLACE LIKE HOME FUNDING HAVE A 55 YEAR REGULATORY AGREEMENT, JUST LIKE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S REGULATORY AGREEMENT IS ALSO 55 YEARS.

AND THEN THE OPERATING SUBSIDY RESERVE IS A 20 YEAR COMMITMENT.

AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THE 20 YEARS.

AND SO LIKE EVERY FIVE YEARS IT KIND OF RESETS.

AND SO THERE'S KIND OF LIKE THIS MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT CAN BE SPENT WITHIN A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

SO THERE'S I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL VERY INTERCONNECTED AND KIND OF TIED TO EACH OTHER FOR A STRETCH OF TIME.

YES. OKAY.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION READING MY MESSY NOTES, WAS REALLY ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT OF THE FACILITY AND TAKING TO HEART THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC OVER THIS PAST PERIOD OF TIME.

A WHILE NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THEM, GETTING EMAILS IN PUBLIC COMMENT, AND EVERY TIME WE BRING IT UP, WE'RE HEARING NEW STORIES.

AND THEN TODAY, HEARING THE CHIEF OF POLICE'S PERSONAL AND FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE.

EARLIER TODAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE NEGOTIATION THAT WE DIRECTED, WE, THE COUNCIL, DIRECTED OUR STAFF TO HAVE ON THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS NOT WORKING OUT BECAUSE WE HAD ASKED FOR SECURITY INITIALLY, ASKED FOR THAT 24 OVER SEVEN SECURITY AND KIND OF CAME UP WITH A PLAN.

SO WHAT DO WE DO IF THEY'RE NOT COMPLYING? THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY THEY'RE DOING IT.

WHAT. AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMEONE HERE FROM AFFIRMED OR FROM CANAAN THAT ALSO MIGHT BE ABLE TO VOLUNTEER.

THE ANSWER IF WE DON'T HAVE IT.

BUT WHAT CAN WE DO WHEN THERE? WE'RE NEGOTIATING.

ARE WE STILL IN NEGOTIATION? LIKE DO WE CONSTANTLY STILL HAVE MEETINGS WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DOING THIS? AND AS WE SEE, THEY'RE NOT SURE, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER, YOU KNOW, A FEW OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

BUT WE ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION.

WE HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS.

THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF MEETINGS.

THERE'S A ROUTINE SECURITY MEETING THAT BOTH CONAM AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE INVOLVED WITH, AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HOUSING AND HOMELESS SERVICES, AFFIRMED AND CONAM AND THE COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES.

AND WE MEET MONTHLY.

IN TERMS OF THE I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT LIKE, KIND OF LIKE WHAT NEXT STEPS ARE LIKE IN TERMS OF THE ISSUE, OUR CONCERNS ON SECURITY.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY OUR APPROACH TO IMMEDIATELY, YOU KNOW, SAY PUT ON NOTICE TO AFFIRMED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS NOT BEING ADHERED TO.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DOORS, ABOUT THE GATE, ABOUT THE MONITORING OF THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, THE LIVE SECURITY MONITORING AND ON SITE STAFF BEING PRESENT WHEN TO FILL UP THOSE HOURS, THE GAP HOURS.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY ATTORNEY WANTS TO ADD ANY.

WELL, I WOULD ADD THAT THE COUNCIL AGAIN, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF ADMINISTER THE CONTRACT.

THEY CAN CERTAINLY PUT AFFIRMED AND CONAM ON NOTICE OF ANY AREAS WHERE THEY'RE FALLING DOWN, EITHER IN THE AGREEMENTS OR IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN.

YOU MAY BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MANAGEMENT PLAN TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY REVISIONS.

YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DIRECT A MANAGER TO LOOK AT OTHER CONTRACT REMEDIES THAT WE MAY HAVE, SUCH AS LOOKING AT WHO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS AND WHETHER THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB THE WAY THAT WE ANTICIPATE DOING THEM.

SO YOU HAVE SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN DIRECT HIM TO, TO LOOK INTO THAT MAY ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.

OKAY. AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT LAST THAT LAST POINT, WE COULD DO A REVIEW OR ASK A FIRM TO CHANGE EVEN WHO THEIR PROPERTY MANAGER IS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING THE JOB.

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THEY'RE NOT DOING IT. AND THERE WAS EVEN ANOTHER ONE.

I SAW A MENTION OF WHOEVER IS ANOTHER PARTY THAT MANAGES THE SECURITY THAT SORRY, THAT MANAGES THE CAMERAS, THAT WATCHES THE CAMERAS. CLEARLY, ACCORDING TO THE STORY THAT WE HEARD TODAY, THEY'RE NOT EVEN WATCHING THE CAMERAS.

SO, LIKE, MAYBE THEY NEED TO CLEAN HOUSE AND GET NEW CONTRACTORS TO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK.

SO I GUESS THAT'LL BE PART OF OUR CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE LATER.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO I'LL START OFF WITH ONE QUESTION.

DOES THE CITY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CLOSE THIS FACILITY ON ITS OWN? I KNOW THAT WAS MENTIONED. I JUST WANTED TO ASK TO CLARIFY.

YEAH. I THINK THE SPEAKER FROM THE COUNTY DID SAY THAT THE COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE ANY DECISION.

BUT I DO RECALL THE SPEAKER SAYING SHE REPRESENTED ONLY SUPERVISOR LAWSON REAMER.

SHE DIDN'T REPRESENT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

I DO RECALL REVIEWING SOME OF THE EMAIL EXCHANGES BETWEEN SOME OF OUR CONCERNED RESIDENTS IN THE COUNTY.

IN WHICH COUNTY COUNCIL.

IT WAS A BRIEF REMARK, BUT COUNTY COUNCIL RESPONDED WITH THE MAKING THE POINT THAT THERE IS, IN FACT, A 55 YEAR COUNTY RESTRICTION ON THE PROPERTY THAT REQUIRES IT TO BE USED FOR NO PLACE LIKE HOME RESIDENTS, OR AT LEAST THOSE 24 UNITS FOR NO PLACE LIKE HOME RESIDENTS.

I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY FEASIBLE LEGAL MEANS TO CLOSE THE PROJECT DOWN.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THE SECURITY AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM IF THEY'RE HERE.

SO AFFIRMED HIRES [INAUDIBLE].

SO THEY HIRE THE PROPERTY MANAGER, AND THEN THE PROPERTY MANAGER THEN HIRES THE OTHER ON-SITE SERVICES.

SO THAT INCLUDES THE VIDEO MONITORING AS WELL AS THE ONSITE SECURITY.

GREAT. IF AFFIRMED IS HERE, I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO COME UP SO I CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS.

AND IF FOR THE RECORD, YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. YOU BET.

I WILL DO SO.

AND IF YOU COULD BEAR WITH ME, I HAVE A FEW PREPARED COMMENTS JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT AND HOPEFULLY ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, AND THEN I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS.

SO GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JONATHAN TAYLOR AND I'M PLEASED TO BE BEFORE YOU AGAIN.

I AM THE VP IN CHARGE OF ASSET MANAGEMENT AT AFFIRMED HOUSING.

SO I SHARED LAST TIME THAT I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE PROPERTY OPERATIONAL DECISIONS FOR APARTMENT COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR PORTFOLIO. I WANT TO SHARE BRIEFLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT MY JOB ENTAILS.

SO ONE OF MY MAIN TASKS IS TO ENGAGE, SUPPORT, HOLD ACCOUNTABLE, AND EMPOWER OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PARTNERS TO PROVIDE EXCELLENT SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND FINANCIAL STAKEHOLDERS.

I GREW UP THE SON OF A SINGLE MOM WHO WAS A PROPERTY MANAGER.

SHE MANAGED THE APARTMENTS THAT I GREW UP IN.

SHE RETIRED RECENTLY, BUT I'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER THE INCREDIBLE COMMITMENT THAT SHE MADE TO HER TENANTS, IN SPITE OF THE VERY SERIOUS CHALLENGES THAT SHE FACED EACH AND EVERY DAY.

THE PARTNERS I WORK WITH, INCLUDING CONAM, EXHIBIT THAT SAME COMMITMENT AND THEY FACE SIMILAR DAILY CHALLENGES ACROSS PORTFOLIOS.

WE HEARD ABOUT AN OPERATIONAL CHALLENGE HERE TONIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT REGRETTABLE INCIDENT THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT.

PROPERTY MANAGEMENT IS TAKING SWIFT ACTIONS TO REPAIR AND UPGRADE THE GATE AND DOOR HARDWARE.

AN INVESTIGATION HAS ALREADY REVEALED THAT THE OFFENDER IS A KNOWN INDIVIDUAL WHO TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A WEAKNESS IN THE ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM. THIS PARTICULAR GATE HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A POTENTIAL WEAKNESS, AND BIDS HAD ALREADY BEEN OBTAINED TO HEIGHTEN THE GATE.

REGARDING THE SURVEILLANCE CAMERA MONITORING, THE THIRD PARTY SECURITY COMPANY HAS PROTOCOLS IN PLACE TO RESPOND TO VARIOUS INCIDENTS.

THEY COMMONLY CONTACT EMERGENCY SERVICES OR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION.

MANAGEMENT HAS ALREADY BEGUN AN INVESTIGATION TO FIND OUT IF A MISSTEP WAS MADE, OR IF THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENT MADE TO THE CAMERAS NEAR THE GATE.

MAYBE A REFOCUSING OF THE OF THOSE CAMERAS.

ASSISTANT CHIEF SHIPLEY OUTLINED SOME OF THE OTHER INCIDENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT THE CHIEF WAS ABLE TO WITNESS AND DIRECTLY REPORT OUT ON THIS ONE.

SO FIVE MONTHS AGO, THE WINDSOR POINT TEAM RECEIVED HELPFUL ADVICE FROM THIS BODY, AND WE'VE TAKEN STEPS TO CHIP

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AWAY AT ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS THE UNNECESSARY EMERGENCY CALLS.

THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE ARE THE DIRECT RESULT OF VERY ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT BY ALL THE TEAM PLAYERS CARLSBAD HOUSING POLICE DEPARTMENT, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, SAN DIEGO COUNTY HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

SO I WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I MAY DEFER TO MY PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY AND CONAM TO HELP WITH ANSWERS.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE OVERVIEW.

AND I GOT I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS BASED OFF OF WHAT YOU JUST SHARED.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT OVERVIEW.

SO KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL ARE COLLABORATIVELY IN CHARGE OF THE SECURITY ON SITE.

SO OF COURSE, ALL OF US ARE THINKING WHY WOULD SOMEONE NOT WATCHING? AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW, IS THE I KNOW YOU CAN'T CONTROL THE ACTIONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYED BY THAT SECURITY ENTITY.

HOWEVER, THAT SECURITY ENTITY IS SOMEBODY THAT WAS CHOSEN.

AND SO WE ARE WANTING TO KNOW IS THAT A COMMON PRACTICE BY THAT PARTICULAR ENTITY, AND WHY WERE THEY CHOSEN AND WHAT'S BEING DONE TO RECTIFY IT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD? THE COMPANY THAT WE USE IS CALLED STEALTH MONITORING, AND IT'S A RELATIVELY NEW TECHNOLOGY.

IT'S A TECHNOLOGY THAT WE STARTED ROLLING OUT AT OUR PROPERTIES.

OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING OWNERS AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT GROUPS HAVE FOLLOWED OUR LEAD.

WE THINK THAT IT'S A REALLY HELPFUL TOOL TO HAVE, AND SO FAR IT GENERALLY IS VERY HELPFUL.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION WE'RE INVESTIGATING.

STILL, TO FIND OUT WHAT THE ACTUAL PROBLEM WAS AND WHY THE RESPONSE WAS WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CHIEF HEARD CLEARLY WAS NOT WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT THE RESPONSE FROM STEALTH TO BE.

AND SO WE'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF OF WHY THAT OCCURRED.

OKAY. I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS REGARDING THAT FOR LATER AS WELL.

I THINK WE HAVE. I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE COMMENTS REGARDING THAT.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS THAT THE DOORS HAVE BEEN UNSECURE OR INSECURE.

SORRY. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN AND IF YOU ALL WERE AWARE OF THAT, IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF IT, WERE YOU JUST MADE AWARE TODAY? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MUST HAVE BEEN ONGOING BASED ON THE PATTERN OF THIS.

AND, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THIS INDIVIDUAL KNOWINGLY KNOWING HOW TO GET IN.

AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT IF YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT? IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MICHELLE SEITZ WHO IS WITH CONAM PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

I THINK THAT SHE'S BEEN IN CLOSER COMMUNICATION WITH THE ONSITE TEAM AND WOULD BE ABLE TO BETTER ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SURE. THANK YOU.

HI. MICHELLE SEITZ, REGIONAL VICE PRESIDENT WITH MANAGEMENT, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS SHED GREAT LIGHT ON AN EXISTING PROBLEM. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE PROBLEM.

AFFIRMED WAS NOT AWARE OF THE PROBLEM.

THE INFORMATION WE WERE ABLE TO GATHER TODAY IS THAT THE DOORS ARE.

I JUST GOT, I GOT A TEXT A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO.

THE DOORS ARE ALL 100% SECURE, BUT WE STILL DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT IF YOU, AS THE CHIEF WAS MENTIONING, PULL ON THE DOOR HARD, VERY HARD, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY WAS IMPROVING THE HARDWARE, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S STURDY ENOUGH TO NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

WE ALSO GOT APPROVAL TODAY TO HEIGHTEN THE GATE ON THE SIDE AT OAK, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY. AND I GUESS ESPECIALLY FOR THE ON SITE SECURITY THAT IS THERE FROM 6 P.M.

TO 6 A.M., HOW WERE THEY NOT AWARE THAT THIS HAD HAPPENED? WE'RE STILL INVESTIGATING THAT.

OKAY. YEAH. THEY WERE NOT ON SITE AT THE TIME OF THIS INCIDENT.

OKAY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY MANAGER WAS NOT THERE AS WELL.

SO JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY GETTING THERE ON TIME? I MEAN, THAT IS CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.

BUT THEN ALSO, THEY WEREN'T THERE WHEN THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED.

SO WE DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF KNOWING, YOU KNOW, HOW THE HOW THE PERSON GOT IN BESIDES OBVIOUSLY THE CAMERA FOOTAGE AND EVERYTHING.

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AND OF COURSE, IF SOMEBODY WAS ON SITE TO SEE IT.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KIND OF BACKTRACK AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY WAS THAT INDIVIDUAL NOT THERE SINCE THAT'S PART OF THEIR JOB AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE RELYING ON? RIGHT.

SO SHE CALLED IN THIS MORNING AND SAYING THAT SHE WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LATE.

SO UNFORTUNATELY THAT WAS THAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS INCIDENT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN IF I COULD ADD ONE MORE THING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CHATTED ABOUT WAS WE HAVE ONE COMMUNITY MANAGER AND THE SITES ARE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

SO WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE IN THE OFFICE AT OK.

SHE LIVES AT HARDING, SO SHE TYPICALLY STARTS HER DAY OVER THERE.

SO IF SHE WERE TO ARRIVE ON TIME TODAY, IT'S LIKELY THAT SHE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AT OAK AT 8 A.M.

AS WELL. OKAY.

AND I'M ASSUMING AND IF I MAY JUST FOLLOW ON THAT I'M ASSUMING FOLKS BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE SOMEONE AT BOTH SITES AND SO JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, I MEAN, YES, IT WOULD BE CHALLENGING FOR HER TO BE AT BOTH LOCATIONS FOR THE DURATION OF THE TIME THAT YOU KNOW, THAT PERSON IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

SO HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND TO THAT AND ADDRESS THAT SINCE YOU ARE THE PROPERTY MANAGER? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AGAIN, LOOKING TO YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING.

TYPICALLY WE WOULD GET A CALL FROM THE SECURITY COMPANY AND SHE WOULD THEN GO OVER IN ADDITION TO THE MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN.

SO THEY WOULD GO OVER TO THE LOCATION AND ADDRESS THE INCIDENT.

SO THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION.

MY QUESTION WAS MORE AROUND, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEONE ON SITE AT BOTH LOCATIONS? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON THAT'S COVERING BOTH LOCATIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

YEAH, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO STAFF MEMBERS AT THE PROPERTY, ONE COMMUNITY MANAGER OR ONE MAINTENANCE TECH.

SO TO OPERATE OUT OF THE OFFICE, THERE'S ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS, AND I KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUES ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR EACH OF YOU.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS QUICK AS I CAN.

LET ME JUST MAKE SURE HERE THAT I COVERED EVERYTHING.

I DO HAVE MORE.

HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO RESERVE IT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW OTHERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASK BOTH OF YOU QUESTIONS.

SO EITHER.

YES. AND ACTUALLY ONE, ONE, ONE PIECE THAT I DID FORGET TO ASK ABOUT IS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS ABLE TO GAIN ACCESS AND THEN WAS LIVING ON SITE.

SO JUST HOW I MEAN, HAVE YOU BEEN AWARE, HAVE YOU BEEN AWARE? IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AWARE, HOW LONG HAS THIS INDIVIDUAL BEEN LIVING THERE? I JUST IT IS CONCERNING TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A MATTRESS THERE.

AND CLEARLY, AGAIN, THIS PERSON WAS AWARE OF HOW TO GET IN AND EVERYTHING, AND THEY WERE, I'M ASSUMING LIVING THERE.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO KNOW.

LIKE WHAT? HOW HOW ARE YOU ALL PLANNING TO PREVENT THAT MOVING FORWARD? AND OF COURSE, LIKE IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT GAINED ACCESS THIS MORNING ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY LIVES ON PROPERTY.

I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FOAM MAT AND THE TRASH THAT'S BEEN DISCARDED.

I ASKED THE QUESTION, WAS SOMEONE IN THAT LOCATION SLEEPING AND HOW DID OUR SECURITY NOT SEE THAT? THAT WAS ACTUALLY A QUESTION THAT I WAS ASKING, AND THAT WASN'T THE CASE OVERNIGHT.

WE DO HAVE CAMERAS THAT MONITOR THAT AREA.

SO WE DID LOOK THROUGH THAT.

SO ALL RIGHT, WE'RE NOT AWARE THAT THAT'S AN EXISTING ONGOING ISSUE.

THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION.

I WILL MOVE OVER AND SEE.

COUNCILMEMBER LUNA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER COMMENTS? OKAY, GREAT. COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

JOHN. IS IT JOHN? JONATHAN. YES. JONATHAN.

I JUST HAVE ONE VERY SIMPLE QUESTION FOR YOU.

CAN I JUST HAVE YOUR PERSONAL CELL PHONE NUMBER, PLEASE? I'D LOVE FOR MY CONSTITUENTS TO BE ABLE TO CALL YOU AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND AFFIRM IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW IT'S IMPACTING THEIR LIVES NEGATIVELY, BECAUSE THIS IS THE THIRD TIME, I THINK, THE THIRD TIME YOU'VE BEEN HERE, AND EACH TIME YOU'VE LOOKED AT US STRAIGHT IN THE FACE AND SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PROVIDE 24 HOUR SECURITY, AND IN YOUR QUIP THAT YOU SAID ABOUT YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION, IT WAS REALLY CUTE, BUT IT'S NOT WORKING.

IF YOU WORKED FOR ME, I WOULD FIRE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO.

AND SO THAT'S ALL I WANT IS YOUR CELL PHONE.

FEEL FREE TO, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND WAIL IT OUT.

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I'LL PASS IT ALONG.

OKAY. THAT'S IT.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER.

COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

ANY QUESTIONS? I SUPPOSE I DO HAVE ONE.

I'M SORRY, MR. TAYLOR, IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME BACK.

IT WAS ABOUT THE RELATIVELY NEW TECHNOLOGY.

THAT WAS THE EXACT PHRASE THAT YOU USED ABOUT THE VIDEO CAMERAS.

AND I'M WONDERING HOW OUR VIDEO CAMERAS AND VIDEO MONITORING NEW TECHNOLOGY.

THERE SHOULD BE A CAMERA, MULTIPLE CAMERAS AND PEOPLE WATCHING THEM.

AND TODAY THERE WERE PEOPLE.

THERE WERE THERE WERE CAMERAS, NOBODY WATCHING THEM.

AND NOBODY SAW A WOMAN JUMP, YOU KNOW, THROW HER BAG OVER, BREAK INTO THE BUILDING AND THEN GO UP MULTIPLE LEVELS.

WE THINK MAYBE THERE'S MULTIPLE OPEN DOORS.

SO HOW DID WE NOT CATCH THAT? WHAT IS SO NEW ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY, AND HOW IS IT BETTER THAN REGULAR VIDEO MONITORING SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 25, 30, 35 YEARS? I KNOW MY UNCLE HAD A VIDEO SECURITY COMPANY 30 YEARS AGO AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOREVER.

SO HOW IS THIS NEW? YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS.

I'M NO EXPERT ON IT BY ANY MEANS.

WHAT WE ARE USED TO DEPLOYING AT OUR PROPERTIES WAS AN NVR TYPE OF SYSTEM, WHERE THERE WERE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS THAT RECORDED ACTION THAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE PROPERTY, AND THEN IF THERE WAS AN INCIDENT, WE COULD GO BACK TO THE NVR.

BASICALLY LIKE A VIDEO RECORDING AND PULL UP THE TAPE AND SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS COMMONLY DONE AT AT PROPERTIES ACROSS, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL PORTFOLIOS.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING THIS NEWER TECHNOLOGY THAT I WAS FIRST INTRODUCED TO IT BACK IN AROUND 2015, 2016, AND THAT'S WHERE I MADE PLANNING WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT TO TO USE THIS TYPE OF SERVICE, WHERE THE CAMERAS THEMSELVES ARE MONITORED WITH LIVE PEOPLE AND ALSO USING I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT, BUT COMPUTER ALGORITHMS AND SUCH CERTAIN DEVICES TO TELL WHEN SOMEBODY COMES INTO THE SCREEN.

SO THAT ALERTS THEM, OH, LOOK, SOMEBODY SOMEPLACE WHERE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE SOMEONE WATCHING THAT SCREEN THE WHOLE TIME, BUT IT SENDS SOME SORT OF ALERT TO THE PERSON THAT IS THERE.

THEN IT CAUSES THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE, OH, THIS IS SOMEONE WHO SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S VARIOUS PROTOCOLS IN PLACE.

SOME OF OUR PROPERTIES WILL HAVE A CALL DOWN SPEAKER.

AND SO THAT PERSON WHO IS MONITORING THAT PARTICULAR CAMERA CAN THEN SAY, YOU'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE RULES HERE.

PLEASE LEAVE. IF YOU DON'T LEAVE WITHIN WHATEVER 30S POLICE WILL BE CALLED, THOSE KINDS OF PROTOCOLS ARE IN PLACE.

THANK YOU. AND I KNOW, LIKE EVEN OUR RING CAMERAS, THEY DETECT MOTION AND THEN THEY START RECORDING.

AND THERE IS THAT TWO WAY COMMUNICATION ABILITY WHERE YOU COULD SAY, PLEASE LEAVE THE PACKAGE OR WHATEVER, YOU COULD DO THAT.

SO I KNOW THAT TECHNOLOGY IS NEWER.

DID YOU HEAR THE ACCOUNT EARLIER? I DIDN'T SEE YOU AND I BARELY SAW YOU UNTIL JUST LIKE, AN HOUR AGO.

WERE YOU HERE? DID YOU HEAR THE ACCOUNT FROM THE POLICE CHIEF ABOUT WHAT SHE ENCOUNTERED TODAY? I DID, OKAY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEARD THAT BECAUSE THIS NEW RELATIVELY NEW TECHNOLOGY WITH THE QUOTE IS NOT WORKING AT ALL. LIKE, PEOPLE NEED TO MAKE BIG CHANGES AND THE PROMISES THAT AFFIRMED HOUSING AND YOU AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, NOT YOU PERSONALLY, BUT YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS ORGANIZATION THAT IS A PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT.

IT'S NOT WORKING LIKE CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE AND THE COMMUNITY IS VERY UNHAPPY.

AND WE, THE COUNCIL, ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU THESE QUESTIONS AND TRYING TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING AT ALL.

AND SOME OF THE STATEMENTS ARE VERY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE WE SEE THAT IT'S NOT WORKING, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE IT TOO, SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE CHANGE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU TO FIX THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM.

I GET IT, AND IN THIS INSTANCE, I'M NOT GOING TO RUSH TO JUDGMENT.

IT'S CLEAR THAT SOMETHING DIDN'T WORK PROPERLY ON THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT, BUT I CAN POINT OUT OTHER OCCASIONS WHERE IT'S WORKED REALLY WELL, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE SYSTEMS IN PLACE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY DO SOME MORE INVESTIGATING AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT.

OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

I THINK WE'LL START OFF WITH COMMENTS, IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND.

I'LL GO FIRST AND WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE.

SO I JUST I WANT TO FIRST OFF, THANK OUR STAFF.

I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK, ALL THE OUTREACH THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LOT FOR YOU ALL AS WELL, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE DIALOG, THE FEEDBACK.

AND I KNOW, AGAIN, THE OUTREACH TO OUR STAFF.

I'M SURE YOU CAN HEAR THE FRUSTRATION IN ALL OF OUR VOICES WITH REGARDS TO THIS.

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THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CLEARLY WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING ON, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW HAS BEEN A STRESSOR FOR FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.

I JUST I THINK SOME OF THE JUST TO REALLY HUMANIZE THIS, BECAUSE I HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND I'M SORRY YOU MENTIONED PORTFOLIOS WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ESTABLISHMENT TALKING ABOUT PORTFOLIOS AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

I GET THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO TRY TO BRING LIGHT INTO YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, BUT IT ALMOST DEHUMANIZES AND TAKES AWAY FROM THIS PARTICULAR YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH HERE IN OUR CITY AND WHAT THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THIS ON A DAY TO DAY.

SO I JUST NEEDED TO CALL THAT OUT AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS, THAT THERE ARE REGRETTABLE ACTIONS AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT I THINK REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT MUST BE FEELING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND TO JUST GENERALIZE IT IS IS NOT OKAY.

JUST BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE CASE BY CASE.

AND THIS ONE IS VERY CASE BY CASE AS WELL.

AND I THINK JUST I JUST WANT TO MENTION PLEASE, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD AND WHEN YOU'RE INTERACTING WITH US, THAT YOU TAKE THAT AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH REGARDS TO WHAT'S GOING ON ON SITE, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY HEARD SOME COMMENTS THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALSO ALLUDED TO.

BUT I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED WITH THE MANAGEMENT PLAN.

WE HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED WITH HOW THE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN YOU KNOW, AND CLEARLY WE SAW AN INCIDENT TODAY AS WELL.

AND I THINK THAT I'D JUST BE CURIOUS TO HEAR MY COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS ON THAT, AS IN, AS IN TERMS OF US MOVING FORWARD AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING IT. BUT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT WAYS TO BRING A SOLUTION FORWARD FOR THAT.

IF WE COULD TODAY, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE SOME ACTION.

WE'VE I FEEL LIKE BEEN PATIENT, AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN BE PATIENT ANY LONGER BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.

SO OTHER THAN THAT I JUST AGAIN, I WANT TO COMMEND OUR CITY STAFF BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN CLEARLY TO WORK WITH THIS SITUATION.

AND I THINK THAT I JUST WANT TO AGAIN ASK ALL OF THE PARTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH US ON THIS TO TAKE IT AS SERIOUSLY AS WE ARE, BECAUSE WE ARE WE ARE IN IT AND WE ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR OUR COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

WE NEED THOSE PARTNERS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE TABLE WITH US, TO BE AT THE TABLE WITH US AND ACTUALLY TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.

I GET THAT YOU ALL HAVE COMPETING INTERESTS, AND THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN ALL OF YOUR OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT BE WORKING ON, BUT THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.

AND CLEARLY IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING EVERYONE'S FEET TO THE FIRE ON THIS.

SO I THINK AGAIN, I WILL I WILL ALLOW FOR ESPECIALLY COUNCILMEMBER BURKHOLDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME YOU KNOW, MAKE A MOTION OR MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON WHAT TYPE OF ACTION WE'D LIKE TO TAKE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO AT LEAST AIR OUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS.

WE ALL I THINK YOU CAN SEE WE ALL FEEL VERY SIMILARLY.

AND I THINK WE WILL BE TAKING SOME SORT OF ACTION TONIGHT.

COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA, THANK YOU.

I'LL BE BRIEF, AND I WANT TO ECHO THOSE SAME SENTIMENTS THAT WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO OUR STAFF, ESPECIALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND FOR THINKING THROUGH HOW WE CAN YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THIS FACILITY.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN MY MY QUESTIONS, I CAN SEE HOW WE'RE SO INTERCONNECTED.

THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THE AFFIRMED, ALL THE PARTIES, THE RESIDENTS, AND I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CHANGE THAT WILL LEAD TO MORE POSITIVE OUTCOMES.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LONG TERM COMMITMENT TO EACH OTHER THROUGH OUR 55 YEAR AGREEMENT, BUT I WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THAT OUR OUR MANY CONCERNS, THE COMMUNITY'S MANY CONCERNS AND THE COUNCIL'S MANY CONCERNS.

I THINK REALLY FOCUS ON THE THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY.

AND I BELIEVE THAT A FIRM NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING BIG WITH CON AM AND STEALTH.

THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.

THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY NOT DOING THEIR JOB.

AND YOU AREN'T EITHER, IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH THEM.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANKS.

YOU KNOW, MR. TAYLOR, YOU SAID UP HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO, I ASKED YOU A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ON SECURITY, AND YOU SMILED, AND THEN YOU WALKED AWAY.

AND I'M SORRY.

I'M TIRED OF PLAYING WHACK A MOLE WITH AFFIRMED AND WITH CAN-AM.

THE CONSTITUENTS HERE THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY, AS WELL AS FOR THE PATRONS AND THE RESIDENTS OF THIS, ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF YOUR LACK OF

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ABILITY FROM YOU, AS WELL AS CON M TO PROVIDE US WITH A FACILITY WHERE OUR RESIDENTS CAN FEEL SAFE, AND WHERE THE PATRONS OF THOSE RESIDENTS CAN FEEL SAFE WHEN OUR POLICE CHIEF HAS TO FIND SOMETHING.

OUR CHIEF, OUR CHIEF HAS TO GO IN THERE AND FIND SOMETHING.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GREAT USE OF OUR MONEY.

AND THANK GOD SHE HAD THE WHEREWITHAL TO GO THROUGH THIS AND FULLY RESEARCH IT AND REPORT BACK TO US.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE IS SMOKE, THERE IS FIRE.

AND I'M TIRED OF PLAYING THIS WHACK A MOLE GAME.

THE COUNTY.

I'M STILL GOING TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE.

THEY NEED TO BE HERE.

BUT SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.

AND FRANKLY, I'M TIRED OF THE RHETORIC, AS ARE MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MORE FORCEFUL I CAN BE, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND DEFER TO COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER ON HER THOUGHTS.

GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THERE ARE A LOT OF UNHAPPY PEOPLE IN CARLSBAD, AND I HAVE A SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO TRY REALLY HARD TO BE UNHAPPY AND LIVE IN CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE.

THIS PROJECT IS ABSOLUTELY A STAIN ON THE FABRIC OF CARLSBAD.

I AM TERRIBLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE ANSWERS THAT WE KEEP GETTING.

NOT FROM OUR STAFF. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.

BUT FROM THE COUNTY AND THE AFFIRMED AND THE MS AND THE STEALTH OR WHATEVER THE NAME OF THAT SECURITY COMPANY IS THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY DO SECURITY.

SO I DO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SOME DIRECTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

IF YOU COULD REVIEW THE AGREEMENTS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE ARE GROUNDS TO REMOVE THE MANAGEMENT AGENT WHICH IS. AFFIRMED, AND TO TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO DO THAT, AND THEN REVIEW THE.

MANAGEMENT PLAN TO SEE IF ANY ADDITIONAL UPDATES TO THE SECURITY PLAN ARE NECESSARY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEIR SECURITY FROM 6 P.M.

TO 6 A.M., BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM REALIZES IT, BUT PEOPLE CALL THE POLICE AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT 24 HOUR SECURITY IN PLACE.

AND I'D LOVE TO ALSO PROVIDE THE COSTS FOR THE SECURITY THAT MAKES UP THAT EXTRA 12 HOURS OF A DAY.

OKAY, SO THE COVERAGE WOULD BE FROM 6 A.M.

TO 6 P.M..

PERFECT. I AM VERY I MEAN, FOR OVER TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN TOLD THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO YEAH, SOME POINT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO STEP IN.

AND AND IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE TONIGHT.

SECOND, MA'AM.

MAY I INTERJECT FOR JUST A SECOND? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. AFFIRMED IS ACTUALLY NOT THE MANAGEMENT AGENT.

CONNIE. I'M SORRY. YEAH.

AND THE OTHER THING JUST COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA ALLUDED TO THIS IN HER REMARKS, BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

FOR THE RECORD COUNCIL IS WELL AWARE OF THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT COUNCIL CANNOT CONSIDER THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE AND TAKING ANY ACTION AGAINST THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT YOUR MOTION IS REALLY BASED ON THE SECURITY INFORMATION THAT YOU HEARD FROM THE CHIEF TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE CANNOT TAKE CALLS FOR SERVICE AS AN ACTIONABLE ITEM.

AND I HAVE A SECOND, I THINK PERFECT.

YES. I SECONDED ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE MOTION MADE.

I JUST SAY LET'S MOVE FAST ON THIS.

AND THEN SO ARE WE LOOKING AT BRINGING BACK AN AMENDED MANAGEMENT PLAN? AND WITH SOME MAYBE VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN THERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER YEAH, I WAS REQUESTED TO COME BACK OCTOBER 22ND, IF POSSIBLE.

CITY MANAGER WE'LL MAKE THAT WORK.

YES, MA'AM. GREAT.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA. ANYTHING ELSE? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE TIMELINE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT.

GREAT. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES 4-1 AND MARKING MAYOR BLACKBURN RECUSAL.

4-0. YES.

4-0. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS BEFORE WE WRAP UP HERE? OKAY. GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S BRING THE MAYOR BACK.

THANK YOU.

YOU BROUGHT ME BACK JUST IN TIME TO SAY THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF OUR AGENDA.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

CLOSING COMMENTS.

MISS ACOSTA. I'M SORRY, MISS LUNA.

NO, I HAVE NONE.

THANK YOU, MISS BURKHOLDER.

NOW, OTHER THAN JUST TO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND PERSEVERANCE ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, I APPRECIATE IT.

I FEEL THE SUPPORT AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES.

MISS ACOSTA. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO REPORT OUT THAT THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL MET THIS MORNING.

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COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER AND I SIT ON THAT.

WE DID TAKE A SUPPORT POSITION FOR THE UNHOUSED VETERANS HOUSING THE UNHOUSED VETERANS.

AND THAT BILL WOULD ALLOW FOR VETERANS.

GOSH, HELP ME HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER BURKHOLDER, THEIR PAY.

I'M SORRY. SO, THEIR PAY CANNOT BE OFFSET AND THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR LOWER INCOME HOUSING AND NOT BE PENALIZED FOR THEIR PAY.

YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT BILL AND WE ARE DOING GREAT WORK AT THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.

WE MEET ABOUT ONCE A MONTH.

YOU CAN LOOK UP OUR SCHEDULE ON OUR WEBSITE UNDER COUNCIL COMMITTEES AND JOIN US.

YOU CAN COME IN PERSON OR WATCH ONLINE.

AND THEN THIS THURSDAY I'VE GOT THE WATER AUTHORITY.

THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY WILL BE MEETING ALL DAY IN IN THE HEADQUARTERS.

AND YOU'RE WELCOME ALSO TO COME DOWN IN PERSON OR WATCH THAT ONLINE AT THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY'S WEBSITE.

THANK YOU, MISS BHAT-PATEL.

YES, WE HAD OUR LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES DIVISION MEETING LAST WEEK.

I KNOW WE WERE ALL ON COUNCIL RECESS SO THAT WE COUNCIL MEMBER, ACOSTA AND I WERE THERE.

I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT I KNOW THAT NEXT WEEK IS THE CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, CARLSBAD UNIFIED GOES BACK TO SCHOOL TOMORROW.

SO HAPPY.

BACK TO SCHOOL.

CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY.

NOTHING. THANK YOU, CITY CLERK.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.