>> TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE TAKE ROLE. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:04] >> COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA? >> HERE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL. >> HERE. >> MAYOR BLACKBURN. >> PRESENT. ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. I HAVE TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL SERVE AS CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL AND THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER 2, AND AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION ON ITEM NUMBER 6. NEXT IS THE PLEDGE. MRS. ACOSTA, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. >> PLEASE STAND AND OVER YOUR HEART, AND YOU SAY PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO YOUR REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> NEXT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD OCTOBER 22ND OF '24. THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD OCTOBER 29TH OF '24. ONE OF THEM WAS AT NOON AND THE OTHER ONE WAS AT 3:30 PM. >> SO MOVED. >> PLEASE VOTE. >> I JUST HAD A QUICK CORRECTION FOR THE MINUTES. SORRY, IT SAYS THE REGULAR MEETING ON OCTOBER 29TH AT NOON, THAT WAS A SPECIAL MEETING. >> WITH THOSE CORRECTIONS. >> THANK YOU. >> DID I NOT SAY SPECIAL MEETING? >> YOU SAID IT, BUT IT'S WRITTEN AS A REGULAR MEETING. >> MY NOTES SAY SPECIAL BUT THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT IS PRESENTATIONS. [PRESENTATIONS] I INVITE COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA TO PRESENT TO CHRISTIE STONE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BE CREATIVE ZONE. >> CHRISTIE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION AND ASK YOU TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR PHOTO OPPORTUNITY. I KNOW YOU CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT. WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING AND PRESERVING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND ADOPTING CONSCIENTIOUS HABITS THAT BRING ABOUT A CLEANER, SAFER, AND MORE SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT. WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD ENVIRONMENTAL GUIDING PRINCIPLES SUPPORT MAXIMIZING RECYCLING IN OUR COMMUNITY. RECOGNIZE THAT EVERY EFFORT, NO MATTER HOW SMALL DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS LEADING BY EXAMPLE BY IMPLEMENTING SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT INITIATIVES THAT PROMOTE REDUCING, REUSING, AND RECYCLING, AND REAFFIRM THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. WHEREAS, WE MUST CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON WASTE REDUCTION, COMPOSTING AND REUSE OF PRODUCTS AND MATERIALS. USE PRODUCTS MADE WITH RECYCLED MATERIALS. WHEREAS TODAY, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING TOGETHER TO RECYCLE WASTE AND DEVELOP INNOVATIVE WAYS TO MANAGE OUR RESOURCES MORE SUSTAINABLY. NOW, THEREFORE, I, COUNCIL MEMBER CAROLYN LUNA, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 15TH, 2024 IS AMERICA RECYCLES DAY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. >> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK MAYOR BLACKBURN, AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND COMMITMENT TO THE RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR ENVIRONMENT HERE IN CARLSBAD. AT BE CREATIVE ZONE, OUR MISSION IS TO GET CREATIVE WITH STUFF WE'VE SAVED FROM THE LANDFILL BY REPURPOSING AND UPCYCLING THESE ITEMS INTO FUNKY ART AND OTHER CREATIVE PROJECTS. THROUGH OUR COLLABORATION WITH THE SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS MANAGEMENT DIVISION, WITH EVENTS LIKE THE FIX OF CLINICS AND DO IT YOURSELF ACTIVITIES, WE'VE UNDERSCORE OUR COMMITMENT TO FOSTERING A CULTURE OF SUSTAINABILITY IN CARLSBAD. WE BELIEVE THAT SUSTAINABLE CULTURE COMES ALIVE WHEN THE ARTS AND CREATIVITY THRIVE. THE BENEFITS OF RECYCLING ARE NUMEROUS. WITH A FEW, INCLUDING THE BETTERMENT OF OUR HEALTH, ENVIRONMENT, AND ECONOMY. BY FOCUSING WAYS TO REDUCE OUR WASTE, REUSE PRECIOUS RESOURCES, AND RECYCLE WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN PAVE THE WAY TOWARDS A GREENER, MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. ON AMERICA RECYCLES DAY, WE INVITE ALL THE RESIDENTS TO PARTAKE IN CELEBRATION OF KEEPING AMERICA BEAUTIFUL BY BEING MINDFUL OF WHAT THEY CONSUME, EXTENDING THE LIFE OF STUFF BY REUSING, UPCYCLING AND FIXING, LEARNING WHERE AND HOW TO PROPERLY RECYCLE, [00:05:01] AND TO PLEDGE TO RECYCLE MORE, AS WELL AS RECYCLE RIGHT IN THEIR EVERYDAY LIVES. TODAY, I WANT TO THANK THE CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR STEADFAST SUPPORT AND COMMITMENT OF RECYCLING EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND IN OUR CITY. TOGETHER, LET US DRIVE TO FOSTER CREATIVITY, INSPIRE COMMUNITIES, PROMOTE INNOVATION, AND CLEAN UP THE ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> CHRISTIE, WILL YOU PLEASE HANG OUT AS SOON AS WE'RE FINISHED WITH THE NEXT PROCLAMATION, WE'RE GOING TO DO A GROUP PHOTO. NEXT, I INVITE MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL TO PRESENT A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO THE PODIUM JUAN REYNOSO FROM THE SAN PASQUAL BAND OF KUMEYAAY INDIANS AND ALEXIS MUNOA DYER, MEMBER OF THE PECHANGA BAND OF LUISENO INDIANS. ONCE I GET A CHANCE TO READ OUR PROCLAMATION, I'D LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO SAY A FEW WORDS. WHEREAS DURING NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD CELEBRATES THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF NATIVE PEOPLES PAST AND PRESENT. WHEREAS NATIVE AMERICAN ROOTS ARE DEEPLY EMBEDDED IN THIS LAND, A HOMELAND LOVED, NURTURED, STRENGTHENED, AND FOUGHT FOR WITH HONOR AND CONVICTION. WHEREAS WE HONOR OUR NATIVE AMERICAN VETERANS AND SERVICE MEMBERS WHO HAVE COURAGEOUSLY SERVED CONTINUE TO SERVE IN OUR ARMED FORCES, INCLUDING THE BRAVE NATIVE AMERICAN CODE TALKERS IN WORLD WAR I AND WORLD WAR II, AND WHEREAS WE THANK NATIVE AMERICANS FOR THEIR PUBLIC SERVICE IN THE ARTS, CULTURE, EDUCATION, MEDICINE, AND TECHNOLOGY, AND WHEREAS DURING NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, WE RECOGNIZE THE LUISENO AND KUMEYAAY COMMUNITIES AS THE ORIGINAL STEWARDS OF THE LAND. NOW, THEREFORE, I MAYOR PRO TEM PRIYA BHAT-PATEL ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 2024 AS NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OFF TO JUAN AND LEXIS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [FOREIGN] MY NAME IS JUAN REYNOSO. I'M TWO SPIRIT NORTHERN KUMEYAAY DIEGUENO FROM THE SAN PASQUAL BAND OF INDIANS, REPRESENTING THE MOUNTAIN KINGSNAKE CLANS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. TODAY, I STAND IN UNION AND SOLIDARITY WITH MY SISTER, ALEXIS MUNOA DYER, BAKIUM, FROM THE PECHANGA BAND OF LUISENO INDIANS, TRIBALLY DISTINCT, YET FIRST PEOPLE UNITED ON BEHALF OF THIS PROCLAMATION. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS MOMENT IN TIME, THIS MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE, AND UTMOST HONOR. ONE THAT SAYS I WE ARE SURVIVORS OF A COLONIAL SYSTEM THAT TRIED IN EVERY POSSIBLE MEASURE TO REMOVE US, TO REMOVE OUR SPIRITS FROM THIS CONNECTIONS OF THESE LANDS. TO THAT, I SAY [FOREIGN]. >> [FOREIGN] WE SPEAK OUR TWO LANGUAGES IN THESE CHAMBERS TO CALL UPON THE MEMORY, INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE, AND LIVING SPIRIT OF THESE WATERWAYS THAT OUR ANCESTORS HAVE CARED FOR SINCE CREATION. WE STAND BEFORE YOU, UNITED AS ARTISTS AND CULTURE BEARERS FROM BOTH THE KUMEYAAY AND POM KUI CHUM NATIONS. WE CALL YOU IN TO THE SACRED RESPONSIBILITY OF PRIORITIZING OUR AIR, WATER, FIRE, AND LAND. WE URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO OUR KNOWLEDGE KEEPERS AND SEEK RELATIONSHIP IN GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT DISCOURSE WITH OUR NATIVE SOVEREIGN NATIONS. ALL HUMAN BEINGS ARE MADE OF THESE ELEMENTAL RELATIVES, AND IT IS OUR DUTY TO PROTECT ALL RELATIONS. PALMI IS A SACRED PLACE TO OUR PEOPLE, AND WE IMPLORE YOU TO TREAT IT AS SUCH. WHEN HUMAN BEINGS REMEMBER OUR EARTH LISTENING PRACTICES, WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO HELP OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN LIVE. [FOREIGN] >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU CITY OF CARLSBAD AND ALL OF YOU HERE TODAY WHO ARE WITNESSING TO CELEBRATE THE HONOR THE DIVERSE AND BEAUTIFUL, SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE FIRST PEOPLE OF THESE LANDS, THE KUMEYAAY AND THE PAYAKUCHUM. [FOREIGN] [APPLAUSE] >> WILL YOU TWO PLEASE JOIN US FOR A PHOTOGRAPH RIGHT HERE. WE'LL START WITH THE TWO OF YOU, THEN WE'LL DO CHRISTIE SECOND. [00:10:17] >> [BACKGROUND]. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. [BACKGROUND] >> NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT. [PUBLIC COMMENT] I HAVE TO READ THE FOLLOWING. THE BROWN ACT AND THE CITY'S MEETING RULES ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS ARE REGARDING MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS RELATE TO THE QUESTION OR MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION. INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE AGENDA. THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING. IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN MAKING YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY, AND RESPECT. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY. THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED. THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME. PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. AT THE TWO-AND-A-HALF MINUTE MARK, THE LIGHT ON THE PODIUM WILL TURN YELLOW. THAT'S YOUR HINT THAT YOU ONLY HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT. I'M GOING TO ASK THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THREE MINUTES. THAT WAY, EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK. PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> LAURIE BOONE, FOLLOWED BY GREG WAITE. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M LAURIE BOONE. I HAVE LOVED LIVING IN CARLSBAD FOR OVER 50 YEARS, BUT EVEN MORE I HAVE LOVED WORSHIPING AT CARLSBAD COMMUNITY CHURCH FOR ALL THOSE YEARS. I SERVE AS OUR CHURCH'S HISTORIAN, AND I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT OUR CHURCH WILL BE CELEBRATING OUR 100TH ANNIVERSARY THIS NEXT SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH. STEP BACK FOR A MINUTE TO 1920, CARLSBAD, IT WAS JUST A LITTLE HAMLET OF A PLACE. THE MAIN LIVELIHOOD WAS DRY FARMING. BUT THE TINY TOWN BEGAN TO COME TO LIFE AT ABOUT THAT TIME WHEN FAMED HENRY HUNTINGTON'S SOUTH COAST LAND COMPANY PIPED WATER FROM THE SAN LOUIS RAY RIVER INTO CARLSBAD, BUENA VISTA RESERVOIR. NEW SOURCE OF WATER MADE CARLSBAD THE PERFECT PLACE FOR YEAR ROUND FARMING. THE COMPANY BEGAN ADVERTISING ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AND EUROPE THAT CARLSBAD WAS THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE A WONDERFUL LIFE. ONE OF THE ENTICEMENTS THAT THEY WROTE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PITTSBURGH PENNSYLVANIA DISPATCH. IT CAUGHT THE EYE OF TWO LADIES, MISS SALLY TROUTMAN AND MISS MARION HOLMES. THESE TWO CLOSE FRIENDS HAD TRAVELED ALL OVER CANADA AND EUROPE AND DECIDED [00:15:03] A TRIP TO THE WEST COAST COULD POSSIBLY PROVE THE ADVERTISEMENT TO BE TRUE. THEY CONTACTED THE SOUTH COAST LAND COMPANY IN LOS ANGELES AND WERE PUT UP AT THE TWIN ENDS. AFTER A VERY BRIEF TOUR OF CARLSBAD, THEY BOUGHT TWO-AND-A-HALF ACRES ON HIGHLAND AND OAK. THAT WAS JULY 14TH, 1920. THUS BEGAN THESE TWO LADIES HAVING AN AMAZING IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF CARLSBAD. BUT THEIR MOST IMPORTANT WORK THAT HAD LONG LASTING EFFECTS WAS THAT THEY ANSWERED THE CRY OF MOTHERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO WANTED A SUNDAY SCHOOL FOR THEIR CHILDREN. THESE TWO LADIES FORMED IN 1922, THE UNION SUNDAY SCHOOL, WHICH EVENTUALLY LED TO THE FOUNDING OF CARLSBAD COMMUNITY CHURCH ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 1924. >> WHEN I'VE GONE THROUGH THE RECORDS OF ALL THE FIRST SIGNERS OF THE CHARTER OF THE CHURCH, IT'S AMAZING. THERE ARE NAMES LIKE MCCLELLAN'S AND GAGE'S, AND OTHERS THAT ARE VERY WELL KNOWN, KELLY'S. THESE SAME 40 CHARTER MEMBERS HAVE BECOME THE FOUNDERS OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE ROTARY CLUB, THE WOMEN'S CLUB, AND MUCH MORE. IN OUR CHURCH AND CITY HISTORY ARCHIVES, WE FIND STORIES OF CHURCH MEMBERS WHO SERVED AS CITY MANAGER, PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, CITIZENS OF THE YEAR, PTA LIFE MEMBERS, BOARD MEMBERS OF THE BOYS CLUB, SCOUT LEADERS, AND MANY MORE, AND INCLUDING FIVE MAYORS OF CARLSBAD, STARTING WITH CD MCCLELLAN IN 1952, CHARLES LEDGER. >> THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND] >> GREG WAITE, FOLLOWED BY VICKY SIAGE. >> TRY NOT TO TALK LIKE AN AUCTIONEER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS GREG WAITE, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO BRING ATTENTION TO A CRITICAL ISSUE INVOLVING AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. THERE ARE APPROVED PROJECTS, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT CANNOT BE BUILT AT THIS TIME DUE TO CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT'S INABILITY TO PROVIDE SEWER SERVICE OR EVEN WILL SERVE LETTERS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF THE CITY. THE CITY HAS ITS OWN CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE ALSO ON AN INDEFINITE HOLD BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE. I REPRESENT THE OWNERS OF A PROJECT CALLED WEST OAKS THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN MAY OF 2021. WEST OAKS INCLUDES 42 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ALONG WITH 150 WORKFORCE APARTMENTS, AND IT IS LOCATED IN A HIGH-RESOURCE AREA AS DEFINED BY HCD AND TCAC, CONFIRMING THAT WEST OAKS IS THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR INCOME-RESTRICTED HOUSING. THIS CRITICAL NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS RECOGNIZED BY CITY PLANNING, CITY COUNCIL, AND THE HOUSING POLICY TEAM. THE HOUSING POLICY TEAM AFFIRMED THIS BY APPROVING A $1.5 MILLION LOAN FROM THE HOUSING FUND TO HELP FACILITATE ITS CONSTRUCTION. HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THIS SEWER ISSUE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LOAN WAS ABOUT TO EXPIRE AND HAD TO BE EXTENDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2023. NOW WITH ONLY A YEAR LEFT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LOAN, AND IS AGAIN IN JEOPARDY OF EXPIRING DUE TO THE SAME UNRESOLVED SEWER ISSUE. AS OF THIS EVENING, THE WEST OAKS PROJECT CONTINUES TO BE DENIED ACCESS TO SEWER, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A PUBLIC CARLSBAD SEWER LINE THAT EXISTS ON OUR PROPERTY TODAY. WE'VE OFFERED SEVERAL ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS TO THE CITY INVOLVING CITY OF VISTA, VALLECITOS WATER DISTRICT TO NO AVAIL. NEARLY A YEAR AGO, CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED STAFF TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE CITY OF VISTA AND BUENOS SANITATION FOR A SOLUTION. YET TO DATE AN AGREEMENT HAS NOT BEEN REACHED, AND ONE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE IMMINENT. MORE URGENTLY, JUST LAST WEEK, HCD ISSUED A LETTER OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO THE CARLSBAD CITY MANAGER OUTLINING THE CITY'S OBLIGATION UNDER HOUSING ELEMENT LAW SECTION 65589.7 AND REQUIRING CITIES TO REMEDY THIS SITUATION IN SHORT ORDER OR POTENTIALLY HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL. I'M HERE TONIGHT NOT TO CAST ASPERSION, BUT TO SHED LIGHT ON THE ISSUE TO THIS COUNCIL AND TO REQUEST ASSISTANCE IN FACILITATING A RAPID SOLUTION BETWEEN STAFF AND THE VARIOUS INVOLVED PARTIES, INCLUDING THE CITY OF VISTA, CITY OF CARLSBAD, AND/OR VALLECITOS WATER DISTRICT. THE WEST OAK PROJECT IS PREPARED TO PROVIDE 42 CRITICALLY NEEDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ALONG WITH ANOTHER 150 WORKFORCE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES. PLEASE HELP US GET THIS ISSUE UNSTUCK SO WE CAN BUILD THIS CRITICALLY NEEDED DEVELOPMENT AND CONSIDER ADDING THIS ITEM TO A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR A FULL DISCUSSION. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS ISSUE, I'M AVAILABLE FOR IN-PERSON OR VIRTUAL MEETINGS. THANK YOU. >> VICKY SIAGE, FOLLOWED BY BRIAN SCHMITT. >> HI, EVERYONE. VICKY SIAGE, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT AS PRESIDENT OF CITIZENS FOR FRIENDLY AIRPORT. [00:20:02] I ASSUME YOU ALL KNOW OR MAYBE YOU DON'T THAT THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SOME ZONING AMENDMENTS AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE REGARDING LOCAL CONTROL OF THE AIRPORT PASSED THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ALL 500 PAGES OF THAT STAFF REPORT WITH FLYING COLORS. I ALSO CAME TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO CITY STAFF. MIKE STRONG, WHO HAS BEEN THE LEAD ON IT, HAS JUST BEEN INCREDIBLY KNOWLEDGEABLE PROFESSIONAL. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BODY OF WORK. I HAVE PERSONALLY READ ALL 500 PAGES. HE'S GONE BACK AND READ 3,000 PAGES OF THE 2018 MASTER PLAN. HE HAS DONE HIS HOMEWORK. I'M HOPING IT'S COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL. I BELIEVE IT'S COMING UP SOON. BUT SINCE I'VE COME UP HERE BEFORE AND READ THE RIOT ACT, I FELT LIKE I HAD THE RESPONSIBILITY TO COME UP AND SAY THANK YOU WHEN IT'S A JOB WELL DONE. IT'S REALLY NICE TO BE AN ACTIVIST WORKING HAND-IN-HAND WITH THE CITY ON SOMETHING THAT WILL BENEFIT ALL OF US. THANK YOU AND TWO MINUTES BACK. >> BRIAN SCHMITT, FOLLOWED BY CHI-WU CHANG. >> BRIAN SCHMITT. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AND CITY STAFF. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD [NOISE] NEAR PINE AVENUE AND HARDING STREET, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 938 PINE AVENUE WHICH SUFFERED A DEVASTATING FIRE ON MAY 25, AROUND 2:00 PM. [NOISE] I WANT TO BRING THIS MATTER TO THE CITY'S ATTENTION AND FORMALLY LET PEOPLE YOU KNOW PRIOR TO THE FIRE, THE PROPERTY WAS ALREADY A SUBJECT OF NUMEROUS NUISANCE COMPLAINTS AS A HOARDER HOUSE. SINCE THE FIRE, IT'S BECOME AN EVEN GREATER CONCERN TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT NOW POSES A SIGNIFICANT HEALTH AND SAFETY RISK INCLUDING VERMIN INFESTATIONS, VECTOR CONTROL ISSUES, AND POTENTIAL EXPOSURE TO AIRBORNE DUST, CARCINOGENS, AND OTHER RESPIRATORY HAZARDS FOR THOSE FAMILIES LIVING NEARBY. [NOISE] I UNDERSTAND THE CITY HAS AN OPEN CASE, CC2024-945, WHICH HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO OFFICER ANDY DE LA TORRE. HOWEVER, IT'S CONCERNING THAT IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG FOR THE CITY TO BEGIN ADDRESSING THIS ABANDONED PROPERTY DESPITE REPEATED COMPLAINTS FROM THE COMMUNITY. [NOISE] THE LACK OF TIMELY ACTION HAS EXACERBATED THE ISSUES AND CREATED ADDITIONAL FRUSTRATION FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORS, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY EXPEDITE ANY NECESSARY DEMOLITION PERMITS OR RELATED PROCESSES SO THAT THIS PROPERTY CAN BE DEALT WITH PROMPTLY. ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS, WELL, SWIFTLY WILL NOT ONLY IMPROVE THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ALSO DEMONSTRATE THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IN A TIMELY AND EFFECTIVE MANNER. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. >> SIR, AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM, WAVING HIS HAND, IS JEFF MURPHY. WOULD YOU PLEASE TALK WITH HIM? HE'S OUR EXPERT. HE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WALK THROUGH SOME OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. >> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> CHI-WU CHANG. >> HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHI-WU CHANG. I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK CITY COUNCIL MEMBER LUNA, ACTUALLY BECAUSE SHE'S LEAVING SOON. [LAUGHTER] I KNOW. >> I KNOW THEY ARE CALLING UP THERE, CHECKING ME. >> ACTUALLY, SHE CALLED ME, ASKED ME TO SPEAK. [LAUGHTER] NO, JUST KIDDING. ANYWAY, SO I KNOW SHE COULD TAKE HER TIME TO TRAVEL TO SOMEPLACE NICE AND DO SOMETHING ELSE, MORE FUN. BUT SHE DECIDED TO SERVE, TO MAKE OUR CITY BETTER. I REALLY APPRECIATE HER SERVICE. FOR REST OF YOU, I DIDN'T FORGET ABOUT YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. KNOWING HOW MUCH YOU MAKE A YEAR, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH A VOLUNTEER. SPEND ALL THE TIME. SOMETIMES, I SEE YOU PROBABLY SPEND 40 OR 50 OR 60 HOURS A WEEK JUST READING ALL THE STUFF AND AGAIN, MAKE OUR CITY BETTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAPPY HOLIDAY TOO. THE LAST ONE IS ASK. PLEASE CONSIDER THE IMPACT ON SMALL BUSINESSES WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO RETAIN SMALL BUSINESSES AND TO ATTRACT SMALL BUSINESSES TO HELP CUSTOMERS GROW. CONSIDERING THAT WE COULD HAVE A BUDGET SHORTFALL IN THE COMING YEAR, SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. MAKE SURE WE CAN RETAIN SMALL BUSINESSES. [00:25:02] THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU. NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1 THROUGH 4. [CONSENT CALENDAR] DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? >> WE DO, MAYOR. WE HAVE ONE FOR ITEM 3, STEVE LENKE. >> I HAD A BRIEF PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. STEVE LENKE, CARLSBAD. THANK YOU. I HAVE THREE REQUESTS ON THIS ITEM. FIRST, ASK STAFF TO REQUEST FOR THE SAN DIEGO GRANT THAT THE FUNDING BE MOVED TO DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENTS REVIEW OF BOTH THE ROUNDABOUT AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPTIONS IN PARALLEL. SECOND, TO ASK STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A FUNDING MECHANISM THAT DOES NOT RELY ENTIRELY ON GAS TAXES TO PAY FOR THE PROJECT. THIRD, BASED ON THE SIGNIFICANT COST AND DISCRETIONARY NATURE OF THE PROJECT, CONSIDER HOLDING A PROP H-LIKE PUBLIC VOTE, PERHAPS IN 2026 OR 2028. THE TOTAL GRANT FUNDING FOR THIS IS JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLAR AND IT'S GREAT THAT THE CITY GOT THAT GRANT. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ABOUT 334,000 OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT. IT'S A BIT UNCLEAR FROM THE STAFF REPORT HOW MUCH IS BEING REQUESTED TO MOVE. IT MIGHT BE ANOTHER 244,000 OR DOUBLE THAT FOR A DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF THE ROUNDABOUT OPTION. BUT THAT APPEARS TO LEAVE AT LEAST 232 TO $476,000 OF THE GRANT FUNDS THAT WILL BE FORFEITED BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T USED IN TIME. SO I THINK IT'S WORTH ASKING SAN DIEGO WHETHER SOME OF THAT CAN BE USED FOR PARALLEL DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ALTERNATIVES SO THAT BOTH ARE READY TO GO SHOVEL-READY WHEN THE FINAL DECISION IS MADE. THE CURRENT TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT APPEARS TO BE ABOUT $19 MILLION, AND ALL BUT THE ONE MILLION DOLLAR GRANT IS BEING TAKEN PRESUMABLY OUT OF THE GAS TAX FUND. THIS IS A PAGE FROM THE LATEST CIP BUDGET. THE TOP BLUE BOX SHOWS HOW ABOUT 1.8 MILLION IN GAS TAX REVENUES HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPENT AND THE NEXT TWO BLUE BOXES SHOW THAT NEARLY 16 MILLION MORE IS PLANNED IN 2027 THROUGH 2029 FOR A TOTAL OF $17.7 MILLION IN TAX REVENUES. THIS REPRESENTS FIVE OR SIX YEARS OF THE ENTIRETY OF CARLSBAD'S REVENUES FROM GAS TAXES. THEN NOTE THE NUMBERS IN THE RED BOX BELOW, WHICH WERE THE CIP BUDGETS FOR THIS PROJECT OVER THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS, 2.3 MILLION IN 2022-'23, WHICH INCREASED TO 4.2 MILLION IN '23-'24, WHICH IS NOW BALLOONED TO 17.7 MILLION. THE BLUE BOX AT THE BOTTOM SHOWS HOW THE PROJECT CREATES A $10 MILLION NEGATIVE BALANCE IN THE GAS TAX FUND IN THE YEAR OF CONSTRUCTION. FOR COMPARISON PURPOSES, HERE ARE SOME TYPICAL GAS TAX EXPENDITURES FOR OTHER ROADWAY AND INTERSECTION PROJECTS. THE NEARLY $18 MILLION APPROPRIATION FOR THE SINGLE INTERSECTION PROJECT IS UNPRECEDENTED. IN CONCLUSION, I THINK THE GAS TAX FUNDING SCHEME, IT ALLOWS FOR AVOIDANCE OF A PROP H PUBLIC VOTE ON THE PROJECT, BUT IT DOES SO AT THE POTENTIAL EXPENSE OF MANY OTHER SMALLER PROJECTS SUCH AS SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROJECTS. GIVEN THE COST OF THIS PROJECT AND ITS DISCRETIONARY NATURE, I THINK A PUBLIC VOTE WOULD BE IN ORDER IN THE SPIRIT OF PROP H. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE SPEAKERS. >> I'M GOING TO ASK FOR NUMBER 3 TO BE PULLED FROM THIS FOR OUR VOTE. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON 1, 2, OR 4? MOTION, PLEASE. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [3. AMENDMENT TO THE SCOPE OF THE SAN DIEGO ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION GRANT FOR THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND TAMARACK AVENUE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, CIP PROJECT NO. 6058] ON ITEM NUMBER 3, THE REASON I ASKED FOR THAT TO BE PULLED IS, I WANT TO BE CONSISTENT IN MY VOTES. WHEN THE ROUNDABOUT CAME BY, I VOTED NO, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEND MIXED MESSAGES AND THEN VOTE YES ON THIS SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON NUMBER 3. MOTION ON NUMBER 3, PLEASE. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I DEFINITELY DON'T MIND DOING THAT. I DO SEE STAFF ON STANDBY FOR THAT. THAT WAS FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, CORRECT? >> YES. >> WOULD YOU MIND ANSWERING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP JUST SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT ADDRESSED? THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS TOM FRANK. I'M THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER AND I'D BE HAPPY TO [00:30:02] ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR I COULD GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AT YOUR DISCRETION. >> IT'S UP TO THE MAYOR. IS IT OKAY IF I CAN ASK? >> YOU CAN ASK. ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT. >> SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE PRESENTATION IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE AND THEN OF COURSE, I DON'T THINK I NEED A FULL-ON PRESENTATION. I THINK JUST ADDRESSING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WOULD BE GREAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE GOOD WITH. ALL OF YOU ARE GOOD? GREAT. THANKS. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. >> GREAT. THIS CAPITAL PROJECT ADDRESSES A GREAT NEED FOR PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR BEACH ACCESS POINTS. AS WE'VE SEEN IN PAST PRESENTATIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT AREA. WE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD AS SOON AS WE CAN, AND THE NEXT STEP IS REALLY TO TRY AND EXTEND THIS GRANT, WHICH WE HAVE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES WE HEARD TONIGHT WITH MR. LINKY'S PRESENTATION WAS, IF WE COULD PROVIDE A SIMULTANEOUS DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPTION AND AS YOU HERE IN OUR SEMI-ANNUAL REPORTS, AND AS MR. LINKY HAD ON ONE OF HIS SLIDES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF CAPITAL PROJECTS WHICH WE MANAGE. WE'RE FOCUSED ON PROVIDING COST-EFFECTIVE EFFICIENT DESIGN AND MOVING OUR PROJECTS ALONG AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN TO TRY AND DELIVER THESE PROJECTS. BRINGING FORWARD ANOTHER OPTION TO FINAL DESIGN WOULD COST A LOT OF MONEY. WE PROPERLY VETTED THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC OUTREACH, AND IT WOULD TAKE QUITE A BIT OF ADDITIONAL TIME. >> IF WE WERE ASKED TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT AND IT WOULD DELAY OTHER PROJECTS ON OUR LISTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER. ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY DID SPEND A LOT OF TIME VETTING THIS PROJECT AND SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND COUNSEL AND THE PUBLIC'S TIME GETTING TO THIS POINT OF THE PROJECT DELIVERY. STAFF IS WORKING WITH SANDAG TO SHOW THE PROGRESS ON THIS PROJECT, AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL GET STAFF SUPPORT TO BRING THIS TO THEIR COMMITTEES AND FULL BOARD FOR APPROVAL. IF WE ARE ASKED TO DO THIS ADDITIONAL TASK, IT WOULD LENGTHEN THAT PROCESS AND WE'D HAVE TO ASK FOR A LONGER EXTENSION, WHICH FROM INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, THEY DIDN'T SOUND SUPPORTIVE OF THAT EFFORT. ANOTHER COMMENT THAT WAS MADE WAS REGARDING OUR TENTATIVE PLACEMENT OF THAT ADDITIONAL CIP FUNDS IN THE FIVE YEAR CIP OUT, WHICH INCLUDED THAT $15 MILLION FIGURE. THAT WAS A PLACEHOLDER. WE KEPT IT IN THE GAAS TAX BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE INITIALLY APPROPRIATED FUNDS FROM FOR THAT PROJECT. WE RECOGNIZE WE CAN'T GO NEGATIVE ON OUR FUNDS, AND IT'S REALLY A PLACEHOLDER TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE NEED TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR GRANT FUNDS. WE'RE LOOKING AT SUBMITTING FOR GRANT FUNDS ON MANY OF OUR PROJECTS ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD. WHEN WE DO PLAN TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AFTER WE CONSTRUCT THE ROUNDABOUT AT CANNON ROAD, WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD OUR APPROACH FOR THE FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS PROJECT. THEN LASTLY, WE HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF COMPLYING OR GOING TO A PUBLIC VOTE. WE COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN PROP H. WITH OUR APPROACH TO FUNDING THIS PROJECT AND BRINGING IT FORWARD WHEN WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL, THAT WILL BE INCLUDED HOW WE'RE PROPOSING TO FUND IT AND IF WE WOULD BE GOING TO A PUBLIC VOTE AT THAT TIME. HOPEFULLY, THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTIONS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHERS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MISS ACOSTA? >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GET TO THE SIMPLEST ANSWER ON THIS QUESTION. IF WE ARE EXTENDING IT BY ONLY TWO YEARS, AND THE CANNON ROUNDABOUT IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED IN 2028, ARE WE THEN SAYING WE ARE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT COUNCIL DIRECTED, WHICH IS WAIT FOR CANNON ROUNDABOUT TO BE CONSTRUCTED, AND THEN SEE HOW THAT WORKS BEFORE CONSTRUCTING THIS ONE? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINES. MAYBE YOU EVEN HAVE A SLIDE ON THAT. >> I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE, BUT BASICALLY, WE ARE ASKING TO EXTEND IT BY TWO YEARS AND COMPLETE AS MUCH OF THE ENGINEERING AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY THAT WE CAN COMPLETE AT THAT TIME FRAME. IF THERE ARE OUTSTANDING ISSUES WHICH WE NEED TO ADDRESS WHEN WE DO BRING IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH FOLLOWING THE PERFORMANCE REPORT OF THE CANNON ROAD ROUNDABOUT, WE WOULD ADDRESS HOW WE WOULD FUND AND COMPLETE THOSE ADDITIONAL TASKS. [00:35:02] >> BUT THE CANNON ROUNDABOUT WON'T BE COMPLETED UNTIL 2028, THAT'S TWO YEARS? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THEN WE NEED TO SEE HOW THAT ONE WORKS. BUT WE'RE ONLY EXTENDING THIS GRANT FOR TWO YEARS? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WE WOULDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE HOW IT'S WORKING BEFORE APPROVING TAMARAC ROUNDABOUT? >> WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETE AS MUCH OF THE ENGINEERING AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES. WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A SHORTER TIME EXTENSION SO THAT STAFF WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF RECOMMENDING THE EXTENSION. >> BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION ON IT. WE'RE JUST COMPLETING THE REVIEW, THE ENVIRONMENTAL, ALL THE DESIGN STUFF SO THAT HOPEFULLY THE CANNON ONE WILL WORK OUT WELL, AND THEN WE CAN PROCEED WITH THIS ONE; IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. IF THERE ARE ISSUES TO ADDRESS, THOUGH, WE WOULD BE ADDRESSING THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETE AS MUCH OF THE DESIGN AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AS WE CAN UNDER THIS GRANT AND GET REIMBURSED AT THE REIMBURSEMENT RATE. WHATEVER IS NOT FUNDED WITH THAT, WE'LL COMPLETE AT A LATER TIME ONCE WE BRING IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE RESULTS OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CANNON ROAD ROUNDABOUT. >> I JUST REMEMBER THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION WHERE WE WERE UNSURE ABOUT THE TAMARAC ROUNDABOUT, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE HOW CANNON WORKED FIRST. WE SAID, OKAY, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE WERE A LITTLE HESITANT. WE WANTED TO SEE HOW CANNON WORKED FIRST. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT JUMPING AHEAD OF WHAT COUNCIL ALREADY DECIDED AND WAS VERY CLEAR ON BECAUSE I STILL FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT I DID IN THAT CONVERSATION. WE NEED TO SEE HOW CANNON WORKS BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH TAMARAC. THANK YOU. >> I'M JUST GOING TO INTERRUPT FOR A MOMENT. WE HAVE A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN THE AUDIENCE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ON THE ONE ON ONE ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD DOWN BY THE BEACH AND TAMARAC. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S A THREE WAY STOP SIGN AND THEN YOU GO DOWN TO THE LOWER TAMARAC PARKING LOT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A ROUNDABOUT RIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. MISS BURKHOLDER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES, I TOO VOTED NO FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT WITH THE STIPULATIONS OF LET'S ASSESS HOW CANNON IS WORKING. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS GRANT MONEY IS BASICALLY PUSHING FORWARD TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE DESIGN, AS YOU SAID, AND IF WE WERE TO SAY NO TO IT, WE COULD POSSIBLY LOSE THAT FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE TAMARAC CARLSBAD BOULEVARD ROUNDABOUT INITIAL STAGES OF THAT PROJECT. AM I ON TRACK THERE? >> YEAH. >> OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE LESSER EXPENSIVE AND THEY MIGHT BE SUFFERING AS A RESULT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE CANNON PROJECT AS WELL. WE'RE JUST IN A DIFFERENT PHASE. >> THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCILMEMBER. IN FACT, THAT'S A CRITICAL PATH TO COMPLETING THIS PROJECT, SO WE ARE FOCUSED ON THAT CANNON ROAD, TAMARAC COASTAL IMPROVEMENT. >> GREAT. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE EXTENSION; IS IT NOT? BECAUSE WE ARE WAITING TO SEE HOW IT'S PERFORMING AT CANNON. WILL OTHER PROJECTS SUFFER AS A RESULT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AT TAMARAC? >> NO. OTHER PROJECTS WON'T SUFFER WITH OUR PROPOSED PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE PROGRAMMED OUR WORK. AS YOU MENTIONED, THE CRITICAL PATH FOR THIS PROJECT IS TO COMPLETE ACTUALLY THE TAMARAC COASTAL IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING THE ROUNDABOUT AT CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND CANNON ROAD. >> I THINK I VOTED NO BECAUSE I WAS AGAINST THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE CONSIDER THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND FOR THE DESIGN SO THAT IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF OUR POCKET SO THAT WE CAN SEEK MORE GRANT FUNDING. THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS A LOT OF TIMES. IF YOU HAVE SOME MONEY, THEN YOU GO OUT AND TRY TO GET MORE MONEY, AND SANDAG IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT DOING THAT. I WOULD SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT, BUT IT'S STILL AGAINST THE ROUNDABOUT. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU. >> MISS LUNA >> LET'S SAY WE GET HALFWAY THROUGH THIS AND WE RUN OUT OF GRANT MONEY BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN AND WHAT THE COST ARE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL, THEN WHERE ARE WE, MR. FRANK? >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, COUNCILMEMBER, WE'RE WELL BEYOND THE HALFWAY POINT WITH OUR DESIGN. WE'RE UP OVER 90% COMPLETE AND WE'RE WORKING ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES. AS I MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS IN REGARDS TO THE BRIDGE, WIDENING OVER THE BRIDGE. WIDENING THE WALKWAY, I SHOULD CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT WIDENING THE ROADWAY OVER THE BRIDGE AND SOME GEOTECHNICAL ISSUES. WAS THE QUESTION, WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS? >> AS FAR AS SECURING THE GRANT MONEY, YOU SECURE IT. WE CONTINUE ON WITH OUR STUDIES. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE 90% THERE. [00:40:02] OF THIS 1.9 MILLION WAS IT? HOW MUCH MORE DO WE NEED? DO WE NEED THE WHOLE GRANT? CAN WE MATRICULATE THAT MONEY OVER TO SOMETHING ELSE? >> WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS AN ADDITIONAL $240,000 AS A PART OF THIS GRANT EFFORT. AS MR. LINKY HAD ON ONE OF HIS SLIDES, WITH THAT REQUEST, WE'LL STILL HAVE A REMAINING BALANCE OF $232,000 THAT WE WON'T BE USING BECAUSE THE INITIAL GRANT INCLUDED THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, WHICH WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AT THIS TIME. >> ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO ECHO COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA'S CONCERN BECAUSE IT IS MINE TOO. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ISN'T A GO AHEAD BUTTON FOR TAMARAC FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, RIGHT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MISS BURKHOLDER. >> JUST FEEL LIKE THE AUDIENCE AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING SHOULD KNOW THAT BECAUSE YESTERDAY WAS A HOLIDAY, WE DID NOT HAVE OUR BRIEFINGS. THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE QUESTIONS TONIGHT THAN TYPICALLY BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE HAVE BRIEFINGS WITH STAFF, AND WE COULD HAVE ASKED THESE QUESTIONS OF MR. FRANK AND EVERYBODY ELSE TONIGHT, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THAT, I THINK TONIGHT. >> MOTION, PLEASE. >> YES. MOVE APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3. >> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES FOUR TO ONE WITH MY COMMENTS. ONTO ITEM NUMBER 5, [5. ORDINANCE MODIFYING CITY MANAGER RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS] ORDINANCE FOR MODIFYING CITY MANAGER'S RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS. CITY MANAGER, PLEASE. >> I'LL BE INVITING OUR LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, SHEILA COBIAN UP, AND THIS WAS A COUNCIL REQUESTED ITEM. COUNCIL. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M SHEILA COBIAN, THE DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUENT SERVICES. CHAPTER 2.12.010 OF THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER WAS INCLUDED WHEN THE POSITION OF CITY MANAGER WAS FIRST APPROVED IN 1955 AND HAS NOT SINCE BEEN MODIFIED. THE PROVISION HAS NOT BEEN ENFORCED SINCE 2008 BECAUSE THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION PROHIBITS SUCH A PROVISION. SORRY. SPECIFICALLY, ARTICLE 11, SECTION 10B READS, A CITY OR COUNTY INCLUDING ANY CHARTERED CITY OR CHARTERED COUNTY OR PUBLIC DISTRICT MAY NOT REQUIRE THAT ITS EMPLOYEES BE RESIDENTS OF SUCH CITY, COUNTY, OR DISTRICT, EXCEPT THAT SUCH EMPLOYEES MAY BE REQUIRED TO RESIDE WITHIN A REASONABLE AND SPECIFIC DISTANCE OF THEIR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT OR OTHER DESIGNATED LOCATION. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT CHAPTER 2.12.010 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE BE AMENDED TO READ THAT WITHIN 180 DAYS AFTER REPORTING FOR WORK, THE CITY MANAGER MUST ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN RESIDENCY WITHIN 60 MILES OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD CITY HALL FACILITY. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? >> YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE ONE, VICKI SAGE. >> GOOD EVENING, ALL. READ THIS ONE TOO. I HAVE A QUESTION IN THE WAY THAT THE RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN. CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE IS EXIT 50 ON I-5. BY DEFINITION, WE'RE 50 MILES NORTH OF THE INTERNATIONAL BORDER. THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN WILL ALLOW A CITY MANAGER TO LIVE 10 MILES INTO MEXICO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL IS INTENDING OR IF PERHAPS MAYBE YOU WANT TO MAKE IT SMALLER OR DO SOME WORDING OR PUT SOMETHING IN THAT CITY MANAGER MUST BE A RESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I JUST WAS UNCLEAR ON EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE CHANGING AND WHY WE'RE CHANGING. THE SECOND THING IS IT DOES SEEM A RATHER LARGE CHANGE TO GO FROM HAVING TO LIVE IN OUR CITY, TO LIVE AN HOUR WITHOUT TRAFFIC. IF YOU'RE GOING NORTH AND YOU DID 60 MILES BECAUSE YOU WANTED IRVINE, IS THAT SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO BE DRIVING AN HOUR AND A HALF? ANYWAY, IT WAS JUST A QUESTION. I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY THE CHANGE ALLOWED INTERNATIONAL LIVING, AND IT'S OKAY. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INTENDED. THANK YOU. >> WAS VICKI THE ONLY SPEAKER? FIRST OF ALL, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MISS BURKHOLDER. >> I ACTUALLY HAD THAT SAME QUESTION. [LAUGHTER] MAYBE I TRAVEL ON CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE A LOT BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMED LIKE A RANDOM NUMBER. I'M NOT SURE HOW IT WAS CHOSEN. MY OTHER QUESTION SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, I GUESS, BUT MY OTHER QUESTION WAS RELATIVE TO THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION, [00:45:04] WAS THAT ENACTED IN 2008? IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING THAT I HAVE BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT AS FAR AS THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS? >> JUNE 1976. >> '76. I DIDN'T GET THE 2008 VERSUS WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO THE CONSTITUTION. ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE CODIFYING THINGS TO MAKE US ALIGN WITH THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION BY MAKING THIS NEW OR ALTERING THIS, I COULD SAY? >> CORRECT. >> I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE 60 MILES, TOO, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS A COMMENT ABOUT THAT? >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MISS ACOSTA? >> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE 60 MILES? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S TYPICAL? DO OTHER CITIES HAVE THAT 60 MILES? HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THE 60 MILES? JUST AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. >> WAS JUST A NUMBER THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I HAD FELT THAT WAS A REASONABLE NUMBER. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I SHARE WITH THE SAME THING. LEAVE IT TO VICKI TO COME UP WITH THE MEXICO ISSUE. I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THAT. I WAS LOOKING MORE AT THIS IS MORE THAN HALFWAY TO LOS ANGELES, AND I THINK THAT THE 60 MILES IS TOO LONG. WITHIN THE REASONABLENESS OF THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION, CAN WE ARBITRARILY CUT THAT DOWN TO 35 MILES? >> YEAH, IT HAS TO BE A REASONABLE DISTANCE FROM CITY HALL. YOU CAN ALSO, IF YOU WANT, ADD, MAINTAIN RESIDENCY IN CALIFORNIA WITHIN WHATEVER MILEAGE. >> BEFORE VICKI BROUGHT UP MEXICO, WHICH TOTALLY ESCAPED ME MY THOUGHTS, I WAS THINKING, SOMEBODY COMING FROM 60 MILES, WHICH IS MORE THAN HALFWAY TO LOS ANGELES, THAT ISN'T A REASONABLE DRIVE, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S TRAFFIC. I WOULD SUPPORT 35, 40 MILES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH IT. ABOUT 40 MILES. I'M JUST ARBITRARILY THROWN OUT A NUMBER. MISS ACOSTA. >> THANK YOU. YES, I AGREE. I THINK 40 MILES IS FINE. I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDING WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. >> WELL, IF IT'S WITHIN 40 MILES, I GUESS IT'S AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO BE WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I DON'T KNOW. >> YOU'RE RIGHT. I JUST KEEP THINKING, THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO PIN IT DOWN, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. >> THE NEXT QUESTION I'M SURE IS GOING TO BE IS THAT 40 MILES FROM THE CITY LIMITS OR FROM CITY HALL? HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT? CITY LIMITS? EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? >> IT'S THE CITY HALL FACILITY. >> I'M SORRY. SAY IT AGAIN. >> CITY HALL FACILITY IS HOW THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY READS. >> MISS BHAT-PATEL, IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION, I'LL SUPPORT IT WITH 40 MILES FROM CITY HALL. >> IF WE CAN SUPPORT THE MOTION WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED WITH REGARDS TO THE MILEAGE AND THE STATE OF RESIDENCY. >> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> ITEM NUMBER 6, CITY MANAGER. [6. ORDINANCE NO. 50 – REPEAL AND REPLACE TITLE 1 – GENERAL PROVISIONS OF THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT CODE] >> ITEM NUMBER 6 IS AN ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION, ORDINANCE NUMBER 50, WHICH IS TO REPEAL AND REPLACE TITLE 1, GENERAL PROVISIONS OF THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT CODE, AND WE'RE ASKING THAT COUNCIL ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 50. >> DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MOTION, PLEASE. >> MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE IN ITEM 6. >> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S NO SPEAKERS ON THAT ITEM. >> I'M SO SORRY. YOU SAID NO SPEAKERS. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 7, CITY MANAGER. [7. ISSUANCE OF TAX-EXEMPT BONDS BY THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF MISSION NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, INC. FOR THE LA COSTA FAMILY APARTMENTS] >> ITEM NUMBER 7 IS THE ISSUANCE OF TAX TO EXEMPT BONDS BY THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF MISSION NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS INCORPORATED FOR THE LA COSTA FAMILY APARTMENTS. >> MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR PROGRAM MANAGER, ERIN PEAK? >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS KNOWN AS A TEFRA HEARING AS IT'S REQUIRED BY THE TAX AND EQUITY FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT. THE REQUESTED ACTIONS ARE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF TAX EXEMPT MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF FINANCING THE ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION, DEVELOPMENT, AND EQUIPPING OF LA COSTA FAMILY AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS. IN 2021, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD APPROVED 76 MARKET RATE RESIDENTIAL TOWN HOMES IN THE LA COSTA TOWN SQUARE DEVELOPMENT. THE PROJECT DEVELOPED BY MRCA INVESTMENTS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH [00:50:01] MISSION NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS OFFERS 19 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. THE LA COSTA FAMILY APARTMENTS IS 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT SATISFIES THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENT FOR THE LA COSTA TOWN SQUARE DEVELOPMENT. IN ORDER FOR THE PROJECT TO RECEIVE BOND FINANCING, THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND GIVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THE USE OF TAX EXEMPT FINANCING FOR THIS PROJECT. THE LA COSTA FAMILY APARTMENTS, THE 19 UNIT MULTIFAMILY AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, IS LOCATED AT LA COSTA AVENUE AND CAMINO DE LOS COCHES. THE DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF FIVE, ONE BEDROOM, EIGHT, TWO BEDROOM, AND SIX, THREE BEDROOM UNITS FOR VERY LOW TO LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, THOSE EARNING BETWEEN 30 AND 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. THE BONDS ARE NOT DEBT OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IN ANY WAY. THERE IS NO OBLIGATION OF ANY KIND ON THE PART OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO REPAY THE DEBT. ALL REPAYMENT OF DEBT IS THE STRICT OBLIGATION OF THE BORROWER. THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S PARTICIPATION IN THE ISSUANCE OF THESE BONDS WILL NOT IMPACT THE CITY'S APPROPRIATION LIMITS AND WILL NOT CONSTITUTE ANY TYPE OF INDEBTEDNESS TO THE CITY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BONDS FOR THE LA COSTA FAMILY APARTMENTS. >> OPENING PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? >> WE DO NOT. >> CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? MOTION. >> MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION IN ITEM 7. >> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 8, CITY MANAGER. [8. CLIMATE ACTION PLAN] ITEM NUMBER 8 IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ON THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS OUR SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER, KATIE HENTRICH. >> GOOD EVENING. SORRY FOR THE DELAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M KATIE HENTRICH, PRONOUNS SHE/HER, A SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER AND THE CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ADMINISTRATOR, AND I'LL BE DISCUSSING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. YICHAO GU FROM THE ENERGY POLICY INITIATIVE CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO AND POONAM BOPARAI FROM ASSENT ENVIRONMENTAL ARE ALSO HERE TONIGHT AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PRESENTATION. THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS ARE SPLIT INTO TWO COMPONENTS, THE ADDENDUM AND THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. THE RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT ONE OF THE FOLLOWING. A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE PUBLICLY POSTED DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, EXCLUDING MEASURES E 3.2, E 3.3, AND E 4.2, NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY UPDATED REACH CODE, NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY SOLAR CARPORTS, AND RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY UPDATED REACH CODE RESPECTIVELY, TO MEET THE REQUIRED 2045 REDUCTION TARGET, ALSO KNOWN AS OPTION 1. OR A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE PUBLICLY POSTED DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, EXCLUDING MEASURE E 3.2, NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY UPDATED REACH CODE, WHICH WOULD EXCEED THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 200 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT, ALSO KNOWN AS OPTION 2. OR A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE PUBLICLY POSTED DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, EXCLUDING MEASURE E 4.2 RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY DATED REACH CODE, WHICH WOULD EXCEED THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 4,000 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT, ALSO KNOWN AS OPTION 3. OR A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE PUBLICLY POSTED DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, WHICH WOULD EXCEED THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 6,000 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT, ALSO KNOWN AS OPTION 4. I WILL BE GOING INTO MORE DETAIL OF ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS LATER IN MY PRESENTATION. THE RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THE ADDENDUM IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A RESOLUTION CERTIFYING ADDENDUM NUMBER 1 TO [00:55:03] THE HOUSING ELEMENT IMPLEMENTATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT UPDATE SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. DURING THE PRESENTATION, I'LL DISCUSS WHY THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE IS REQUIRED, REVIEW THE GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY PROJECTIONS AND REDUCTION TARGETS IN THE DATE, REVIEW PUBLIC INPUT AND COMMENTS AT DECISION MAKER MEETINGS ON THE DRAFT PLAN, DIG INTO THOSE OPTIONS THAT I JUST DISCUSSED, PROVIDE NEXT STEPS, AND CONCLUDE. THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE IS REQUIRED BASED ON SEVERAL LOCAL AND STATE ACTIONS. FIRST, ON APRIL 6TH, 2021, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT, INCLUDING LAND USE CHANGES TO MEET THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR CARLSBAD. SOON AFTER ON APRIL 13TH, 2021, STAFF PRESENTED THE FOURTH CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IN THIS REPORT, STAFF DISCUSSED THE NEED TO UPDATE THE CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TO ACCOUNT FOR THE LAND USE AND GROWTH CHANGES INCLUDED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT AMENDMENTS AND THE ASSOCIATED GREENHOUSE GAS IMPACTS. BY ACCOUNTING FOR THESE IMPACTS IN THE UPDATED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, THE CITY MAY CONTINUE TO RELY ON ITS CLIMATE ACTION PLAN FOR STREAMLINED DEVELOPMENT REVIEW WITHIN THE CITY. ON JUNE 8TH, 2021, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED FUNDING FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2022, THERE WERE CHANGES IN STATE LAW, ESTABLISHING MORE AGGRESSIVE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION TARGETS. SPECIFICALLY, THE CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW ASSEMBLY BILL 1279, WHICH REQUIRES THE STATE TO ACHIEVE NET ZERO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN CALIFORNIA BY 85% COMPARED TO 1990 LEVELS BY 2045. LAST, ON JANUARY 30TH, 2024, THE CITY COUNCIL CERTIFIED THE FINAL SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE AND COMMUNITY DESIGN ELEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT. THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT INCLUDED MITIGATION MEASURE GHG-1, UPDATE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, REQUIRING THE CITY TO DRAFT AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT AN UPDATED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WITHIN 12-18 MONTHS OF ADOPTION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT. AS SUCH, THE PERIOD FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT AN UPDATED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS BETWEEN JANUARY 30TH, 2025, AND JULY 30TH, 2025. SINCE IT HAS BEEN A YEAR SINCE I LAST PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I WANTED TO REVIEW THE INVENTORY PROJECTIONS AND TARGETS WITHIN THE PLAN. NO CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS COMPLETE WITHOUT A GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE 2016 INVENTORY THAT WE WILL BE USING FOR THE UPDATE. THE CITY'S TOTAL EMISSIONS WERE 981,000 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT. THE BREAKDOWN OF THE INVENTORY FOLLOWS A STANDARD PATTERN ACROSS JURISDICTIONS THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND THE STATE WITH ON ROAD TRANSPORTATION, ACCOUNTING FOR THE BULK OF OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AT 51%, FOLLOWED BY ELECTRICITY AT 27%, AND NATURAL GAS AT 14%, AND THEN THE REMAINING SECTORS FOLLOW AT PERCENTAGES LESS THAN FIVE. USING OUR UPDATED GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY AND THE LATEST STATE REGULATIONS, WE HAVE TWO UPDATED TARGETS FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. BY 2035, THE CITY WILL NEED TO REDUCE 50% OF ITS EMISSIONS BELOW THE 2016 BASELINE. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH SENATE BILL 32 AND ALIGNS WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN. BY 2045, THE CITY WILL NEED TO REDUCE 85% OF EMISSIONS BELOW THE 2016 BASELINE, AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH ASSEMBLY BILL 1279. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROJECTIONS IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. THE TOP LINE OR THE ORANGE LINE IS THE BUSINESS AS USUAL PROJECTIONS, STARTING WITH THE 981,000 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT IN THE 2016 BASELINE YEAR ALL THE WAY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE, THEN PROJECTING OUT TO THE YEAR 2045 ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE. IN THE CENTER ARE TWO LINES THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. THE LINE THAT STARTS ON THE BOTTOM, BUT MOVES TOWARDS THE TOP OR THE BLUE LINE IS THE LEGISLATIVELY ADJUSTED BUSINESS AS USUAL PROJECTION, AND THEN THE LINE THAT SWITCHES PLACES WITH IT OR THE PURPLE LINE ARE THE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION TARGETS THAT I MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. IN 2035, THERE IS NO EMISSIONS GAP THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO CLOSE BECAUSE THE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION TARGETS ARE HIGHER THAN THE LEGISLATIVELY ADJUSTED PROJECTIONS. HOWEVER, WE MOVE FORWARD TO 2045, AND THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE. [01:00:01] THE LINES HAVE FLIP FLOPPED, THERE IS NOW A 92,000 METRIC TON GAP TO REDUCE TO MEET OUR TARGETS. BEFORE I MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE ARE MEETING OUR 2035 TARGETS SOLELY BASED ON STATE AND FEDERAL LEGISLATION, DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CAN DO NOTHING BETWEEN NOW AND 2035. THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN MUST BE IMPLEMENTED CONTINUOUSLY WITH SEVERAL OF THE PROPOSED MEASURES TAKING MANY YEARS TO SUCCESSFULLY DESIGN AND IMPLEMENT. THE MEASURES IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE ARE ORGANIZED INTO THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES, CARBON SEQUESTRATION, ENERGY, OFFERED EQUIPMENT, TRANSPORTATION, WASTE DIVERSION, AND WATER AND WASTEWATER. WITHIN THESE CATEGORIES, THE DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE HAS 25 MEASURES WITH 37 PRIMARY ACTIONS AND 69 SUPPORTING ACTIONS. TOGETHER, THOSE MEASURES ARE PROJECTED TO EXCEED THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 6,000 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT. STAFF PROVIDED SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE INPUT INTO THE DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE BEGINNING IN 2022 THROUGH MULTIPLE CHANNELS. INPUT WAS ACTIVELY SOUGHT AT THREE KEY STAGES OF THE UPDATE PROCESS, WHICH I WILL NOW DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL. IN KEEPING WITH THE CITY'S PRACTICE OF FOCUSING INPUT EARLY IN THE PROCESS, STAFF BEGAN BY ASKING COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THEIR OVERALL VALUES AND PRIORITIES RELATED TO CLIMATE ISSUES. STAFF ALSO REVIEWED INPUT GATHERED FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, AND ALL OF THIS INPUT HELPED INFORM THE DEVELOPMENT OF POTENTIAL MEASURES TO CONSIDER FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. ONCE DRAFT MEASURES WERE READY FOR REVIEW, STAFF, AGAIN, SOUGHT INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. THIS FOCUSED ON GATHERING COMMENTS ABOUT EACH OF THE POTENTIAL MEASURES. OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE INPUT WERE SHARED IN EMAILS AND E-NEWSLETTERS ON THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS AT COMMUNITY EVENTS AND ON FLIERS AT CITY FACILITIES. DURING PHASE 2, STAFF ALSO SOUGHT FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023, STAFF PRESENTED THE PROPOSED MEASURES AND RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING FEEDBACK FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. FIRST WE HEARD, CONSIDER ESTABLISHING CLEAR INTERIM BENCHMARKS BETWEEN THE 2035 AND 2045 TARGET YEARS. NEXT WE HEARD, CONSIDER ADDING IN MORE MEASURES SO THAT THE TOTAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS REDUCED ARE HIGHER THAN THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET, AND THIS IS BECAUSE WHEN WE SHARED THE PROPOSED MEASURES LAST FALL, THE SUITE OF MEASURES MET OUR 2045 REDUCTION TARGET EXACTLY, AND NOW WE ARE 6,000 METRIC TONS ABOVE THE TARGET. NEXT WE HEARD, CONSIDER ADDING A MEASURE TO INSTALL SOLAR IN CITY OWNED PARKING LOTS. LAST WE HEARD, CONSIDER ADDING A MEASURE TO BAN ARTIFICIAL TURF WITHIN CITY FACILITIES. STAFF FOLLOWED UP ON EACH OF THESE COMMENTS AND WE INCORPORATED THE FIRST THREE ITEMS INTO THE DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, BUT WE DID NOT INCLUDE A MEASURE BANNING ARTIFICIAL TURF. THIS IS BECAUSE ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT THE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS APPLICABLE TO THE PLAN WERE MINIMAL AND THE COST TO REPLACE ARTIFICIAL TURF AT OUR FACILITIES WAS QUITE HIGH. >> AFTER UPDATING AND REFINING THE MEASURES BASED ON THE INPUT RECEIVED, STAFF MADE THE DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW ON JULY 8, 2024. THE DRAFT UPDATE WAS SHARED THROUGH THE CITY'S WEBSITE, WEEKLY CITY NEWSLETTERS, SOCIAL MEDIA, EMAILS TO STAKEHOLDERS, MEETINGS WITH INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS, NEWS ARTICLES, AND ATTENDING COMMUNITY EVENTS. THE COMMENTS THAT RECEIVED ON THE DRAFT UPDATE ARE PROVIDED IN EXHIBIT 6 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT. STAFF RECENTLY PRESENTED AT TWO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS. THE FIRST WAS ON SEPTEMBER 4. THIS WAS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM ON THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, PROVIDING THE COMMISSION WITH DETAILS ABOUT THE PLAN. AT THE OCTOBER 2 MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTED TWO RESOLUTIONS. ONE, RECOMMENDING THE ADOPTION OF OPTION 1 FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN DATE, OR THE OPTION THAT MEETS THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGETS AND DOES NOT EXCEED THEM. THE OTHER TO RECOMMEND CERTIFICATION OF ADDENDUM 1 TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT IMPLEMENTATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT UPDATE SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. STAFF HAVE PROVIDED FOUR OPTIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. THE DIFFERENCE IN THE OPTIONS DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE TO MEET OR EXCEED THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET. BEAR WITH ME, WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THIS SLIDE FOR A BIT. LET'S START WITH OPTION 1. [01:05:01] THIS OPTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE THAT MEETS THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET. IN OTHER WORDS, IT ADOPTS THE DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, EXCLUDING THREE MEASURES, E3.2, E3.3, AND E4.2. THOSE ARE THE NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY UPDATED RACH CODE, NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY SOLAR CARPORTS, AND RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY UPDATED REACH CODE MEASURES. THIS WOULD BE THE SAME AS THE PROPOSED MEASURES SHARED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE PUBLIC LAST FALL. THE BENEFITS OF THIS OPTION ARE THAT IT MEETS THE MINIMUM 2045 REDUCTION TARGET. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, AND IT ADDRESSES STAKEHOLDER CONCERNS ABOUT THE COST-EFFECTIVENESS OF REACH CODES. DRAWBACKS TO THIS OPTION ARE THAT IT IMPLEMENTS A SMALLER SUITE OF MEASURES TO MEET THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET, WHICH PROVIDES LESS FLEXIBILITY FOR IMPLEMENTATION, AND THAT IT DOES NOT ADDRESS STAKEHOLDER COMMENTS ABOUT EXCEEDING THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET. MOVING ON TO OPTION 2. THIS WOULD ADOPT A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE THAT EXCEEDS THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 200 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT OR 0.02% OF THE OVERALL REDUCTIONS FOR 2045. THIS WOULD MEAN ADOPTING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE EXCLUDING MEASURE E 3.2 NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY DATED REACH CODE. BENEFITS OF THIS OPTION ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE OF OPTION 1. THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BEING THAT INSTEAD OF MEETING THE REDUCTION TARGET, WE ARE NOW EXCEEDING IT BY THAT 200 METRIC TON AMOUNT, AND THE DRAWBACKS TO THIS OPTION ARE THE SAME AS THOSE FOR OPTION 1. OPTION 3 WOULD ADOPT A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE THAT EXCEEDS THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 4,000 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT, OR 0.45% OF THE TOTAL REDUCTIONS FOR 2045. THIS WOULD MEAN ADOPTING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, EXCLUDING MEASURE E 4.2, RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ENERGY UPDATED REACH CODE. BENEFITS TO THIS OPTION, AGAIN, ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THOSE FOR OPTIONS 1 AND 2, BUT THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT NOW THE REDUCTION TARGET IS BEING EXCEEDED BY THAT 4,000 METRIC TON AMOUNT. THE DRAWBACKS TO THIS OPTION ARE THE SAME AS THOSE FOR THE FIRST TWO OPTIONS. LAST, WE HAVE OPTION 4. THIS OPTION WOULD ADOPT A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE THAT EXCEEDS THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 06,000 METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EQUIVALENT OR 0.68% OF THE TOTAL REDUCTIONS FOR 2045. THIS WOULD MEAN ADOPTING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE AS IS POSTED, INCLUDING ALL OF THE MEASURES THAT ARE IN THERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THE BENEFITS TO THIS OPTION, AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THOSE FOR THE FIRST THREE OPTIONS, BUT THE MAIN DIFFERENCE NOW IS THAT WE ARE EXCEEDING THE TARGET BY THAT 6,000 METRIC TON AMOUNT. THE DRAWBACK TO THIS OPTION IS THAT IT DOES NOT ADDRESS STAKEHOLDER CONCERNS ABOUT THE COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR THE REACH CODE. HOWEVER, PRIOR TO PROVIDING APPROVAL, THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION REQUIRES THAT LOCAL JURISDICTIONS DEMONSTRATE THAT A REACH CODE SAVES MORE ENERGY THAN CURRENT STATEWIDE STANDARDS AND IS COST-EFFECTIVE. FOR NEXT STEPS, IF THE CITY COUNCIL SELECTS ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT EXCLUDES ONE OR MORE MEASURES LISTED IN THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DRAFT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE, STAFF WILL MAKE REVISIONS TO THE DOCUMENT AS APPROPRIATE. ONCE THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE IS ADOPTED, STAFF WILL BEGIN IMPLEMENTING ITS MEASURES WITH SPECIAL FOCUS ON ACTIONS THAT HAVE A 2025 MONITORING BENCHMARK. AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS MEASURE E-1, RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY AT CITY FACILITIES, WHICH HAS A 2025 MONITORING BENCHMARK TO INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY PURCHASED FOR EXISTING CITY FACILITIES TO 100%. MOVING FORWARD, STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO REPORT ON IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES TO THE CITY COUNCIL ANNUALLY. THE ANNUAL REPORTS WILL INCLUDE THE MOST RECENT GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS DATA, IMPLEMENTATION STATUS OF MEASURES, AND PROGRESS TOWARDS ACHIEVING THE EMISSION REDUCTION TARGETS. AS TECHNOLOGIES AND MARKETS CHANGE AND DATA BECOMES AVAILABLE, THESE REPORTS WILL CONTINUE TO BE USED TO TRACK PROGRESS AND IDENTIFY ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED, ADJUSTED, OR REMOVED. IN ADDITION TO ANNUAL REPORTING, STAFF WILL BE CREATING AN ONLINE DASHBOARD FOR TRACKING PROGRESS ON THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. THE GOAL OF THE DASHBOARD IS TO PROVIDE MORE ACCESSIBLE, TIMELY, AND TRANSPARENT INFORMATION ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN. FINALLY, THE CITY WILL PREPARE FUTURE UPDATES TO THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TO ACCOUNT FOR ANY NEW STATE OR FEDERAL LEGISLATION, MEASURES, ACTIONS, AND ANY RELEVANT FINDINGS [01:10:03] AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY'S ANNUAL MONITORING REPORTS. BASED ON STATE GUIDANCE, THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN SHOULD BE UPDATED WITHIN FIVE YEARS, WHICH MEANS A TARGET COMPLETION IN 2029. WE JUST GET TO DO THIS AGAIN. THE FIRST RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT ONE OF THE FOUR OPTIONS INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND ARE SUMMARIZED ON THIS SLIDE. THE SECOND RECOMMENDED ACTION IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A RESOLUTION CERTIFYING ADDENDUM NUMBER 1 TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT IMPLEMENTATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN DATE. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE CALL SPEAKERS. >> THE FIRST SPEAKER IS JOE HOOD, FOLLOWED BY DIANA GARD. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. I'M JOE HOOD, PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH COUNTY CLIMATE CHANGE ALLIANCE. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT STAFF ON THE EXCELLENT WORK ON THE CAP, AND I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE OPTION 5. LET'S EXPLORE GOING FURTHER BY MAKING CARLSBAD A CLEAN ENERGY. REDUCTIONS HAPPENING ASAP PER THE LAW. FAR MORE THAN 6,000 METRIC TONS. ONE, INSTALL MICROGRIDS ON ALL CITY BUILDINGS AND PARKING LOTS. SET A SOLAR FIELD ON OR NEAR THE MERKLE RESERVOIR AND NEARBY 40-ACRE SITE. USE A POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENT TO AVOID CAPITAL COSTS. THIS WILL LOWER THE CITY'S ENERGY COSTS AND SUPPORT BALCONY AND COMMUNITY SOLAR TO INCLUDE RENTERS IN CLEAN ENERGY. TWO, PARTNER WITH CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE TO INSTALL A VIRTUAL POWER PLANT TO MANAGE ALL BATTERIES, INCLUDE THE BATTERIES, VEHICLE TO GRID BATTERIES, THERMOSTATS, WATER HEATERS, AND MORE DEVICES. AS CEA ACCESSES THOSE BATTERIES, SDG AND E WILL DELAY OR AVOID THE NEED TO TURN ON GAS PEAKER PLANTS. WHICH EMIT A LOT OF CARBON, THE CITY WILL ENJOY A REVENUE STREAM AS CEA REACHES INTO YOUR BATTERIES TO RETRIEVE ENERGY AT PEAKED LOAD TIMES AND INVITE BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS TO JOIN THE VIRTUAL POWER PLANT WITH THEIR OWN MICROGRIDS. THREE, PARTNER WITH CEA TO ESTABLISH A FEED-IN TARIFF. THIS SHOULD BE SET UP TO ENCOURAGE MORE MICROGRIDS. WHEN TALLAHASSEE DID THIS WITHIN ONE YEAR, 05,000 NEW MICROGRIDS WERE INSTALLED IN THAT CITY. THE BENEFITS OF THIS APPROACH, ITEM OR OPTION 5, ENERGY COSTS WILL BE LOWER FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY. DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES WILL INCREASE RESILIENCE AND PROVIDE MORE RELIABLE ENERGY. EVERYONE WITH A MICROGRID WILL HAVE A REVENUE STREAM, AND GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS WILL FALL FAR MORE THAN 6,000 METRIC TONS, FACILITATING REACHING CLIMATE GOALS FOR THE CITY AND, OF COURSE, THE STATE AND THE WORLD. CARLSBAD WILL INDEED BE THE CLEAN ENERGY POWERHOUSE IN THE COUNTY, AND BEYOND, I ASK YOU, PLEASE TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE. MAKE CARLSBAD NUMBER 1. >> DIANA GARD, FOLLOWED BY DON CHRISTIANSEN. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, DANG, REPRESENTING PRESERVE CALA. WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH CARL'S BAD CAP SINCE TWO YEARS BEFORE THE FIRST ONE WAS ADOPTED, AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HOW IT HAS EVOLVED AND IMPROVED OVER THE YEARS, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAVE A FULL-TIME CAP ADMINISTRATOR AND HAVE MADE A REAL COMMITMENT TO DO THAT. THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS WHERE THE CITY CAN REALLY SET AN EXAMPLE BY BEING AN EARLY ADOPTER OF THINGS. MANY OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DELAYED UNTIL 2030 OR EVEN LATER, THINGS LIKE PARKING LOT ROOFTOP SOLAR. PLEASE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT HOW THE CITY CAN REALLY SET AN EXAMPLE. WE ALL KNOW THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO IMPACT ALL OF US, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A BALANCED PLAN, EVERYONE DO THEIR FAIR SHARE. THAT OF COURSE, INCLUDES THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HERE IN CARLSBAD. WE WOULD ASK YOU TO ADOPT ALTERNATIVE 4. THE REACH CODES WILL PROVIDE AN ESSENTIAL BUFFER. [01:15:01] YOU REALLY CAN'T RELY ON EVERY ACTION THAT'S IN THAT PLAN BEING ADOPTED AS SOON AS SCHEDULED AND ACHIEVE EXACTLY THE REDUCTIONS THAT IT IS ASSUMED TO. THAT LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER HELPS ASSURE THAT YOU ACTUALLY CAN MEET THOSE TARGETS WHEN THEY OCCUR. SO PLEASE ADOPT ALTERNATIVE 4 AND LET'S MAKE THIS PLAN AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE. THANK YOU. >> DON CHRISTIANSEN, FOLLOWED BY LINDA DANIELS. >GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNSEL, STAFF, AND FELLOW CITIZENS. MY NAME IS DON CHRISTIANSON, AND I CONTINUE TO BE A DECENTRALIZED RENEWABLE ENERGY ADVOCATE. I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO TO SPEAK TO YOU AND I POSED A QUESTION. QUESTION WAS, WILL YOU SUPPORT SOLAR CANOPIES WITH BATTERY STORAGE, AND EV CHARGING ON CITY-OWNED PARKING LOTS. I HOPE TO GET AN ANSWER TO THAT AT THE END OF THIS AGENDA ITEM. I SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME WITH A 1570-PAGE PACKET. HATS OFF TO YOU FOLKS FOR WAITING THROUGH THAT STUFF. IT JUST BLOWS ME AWAY. BUT I CAME ACROSS SOMETHING I FOUND ESPECIALLY INTERESTING FROM A TOTAL OF NINE DIFFERENT BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS IN SAN DIEGO, RANGING FROM THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION, BUILDING OWNERS AND MANAGERS ASSOCIATION. SAN DIEGO COUNTY LODGING ASSOCIATION. IT GOES ON A TOTAL OF NINE. BUT AS FAR AS WHAT GOT MY ATTENTION, THEY SAY IN THIS LETTER, THE CITY SHOULD TAKE ACTION TO LEAD IN THE MEANTIME. IN ADDITION TO INCENTIVES, THE CITY SHOULD TAKE ACTION TO ADDRESS ITS OWN GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. LEADING BY EXAMPLE AND INVESTING IN ITS OWN EFFORTS, AS DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT WOULD BE A SIGNALING MESSAGE AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS, NOT CONTEMPLATED UNDER THE CITY'S CURRENTLY APPROVED PLAN. THOSE ACTIONS INCLUDE, THERE'S ABOUT HALF A DOZEN. ONE I'M GOING TO READ IS RENEWABLE ENERGY EXPANSION AT CITY FACILITIES, INCLUDING SOLAR CARPORTS AT CITY FACILITIES. THIS COMES FROM THE BUILDING FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. TWO WEEKS AGO, I ALSO READ FROM OUR COMMUNITY VISION. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT DOCUMENT AND I DON'T WANT TO BORE ANYONE, BUT I WILL STATE THAT IT SAYS, EMERGE AS A LEADER IN ENERGY AMONG OTHER THINGS. NOW, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE SOLAR CARPORT OVER CITY PARKING IN CARLSBAD. THAT'S AN ELGATE. I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THAT. IT WAS A 10-YEAR PROJECTED PAYBACK TIME, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S RIGHT IN THE BALLPARK. KEEP IN MIND THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO. TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED A LOT. THE PAYBACK ON THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND NOW WOULD BE CLOSER TO FIVE OR SIX YEARS. I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THIS AS AN INVESTMENT AND COMPARE IT AGAINST THE RETURN YOU GET BY INVESTING OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS IN A LOT OF THE VERY LOW-RETURN INVESTMENTS YOU DO. THANK YOU. >> LINDA DANIELS, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL MCMAHON. >> MAYOR BLACKBURN, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LINDA DANIELS. I REPRESENT CARLSBAD ON THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR THE CEA, OUR CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE. I REPRESENT SIERRA CLUB AND THE SAN DIEGO BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION COALITION. I'M URGING YOU TO PRIORITIZE AND PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT HERE IN CARLSBAD. THE CAP IS VITAL TO OUR REACHING OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS TARGETS NOT ONLY FOR THE STATE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR OUR OWN HEALTH. DO WE WANT TO WATCH OUR PLANET DESTROYED BY UTILITY COMPANIES AND BIG OIL, BY COMPANIES THAT CARE FOR NOTHING BUT PROFITS? WHAT ARE PROFITS WORTH WHEN YOUR GRANDCHILDREN CANNOT BREATHE OUR AIR? I JOIN THIS EFFORT TO SAVE THE PLANET AND WANT TO SAVE THE PLANET. I'VE SPOKEN HERE DOZENS OF TIMES. I CITE STUDIES AND STATISTICS AND BELIEVE BY 95% OF SCIENTISTS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS CAUSED BY HUMANS. BELIEVE US, SIERRA CLUB IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WHO JUST WANTS TO SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE NOT HERE TO TRY TO MAKE MONEY. THERE'S A FACT. [01:20:02] ELECTRIC HOMES ARE CHEAPER TO BUILD THAN MIXED-FUEL HOMES. COMPLETELY TRUE. WHETHER IT'S 4,000 PER UNIT IN A MULTIPLE SITUATION OR IT'S 10,000 A UNIT. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. ANOTHER FACT, BUILDERS ARE REALIZING THIS IN BUILDING ELECTRIC HOMES. HERE IN CARLSBAD, WE HAVE LAGUNA ROW AND MARJA ACRES. IN MENIFEE, THERE'S OAK SHADE AND LOTS OF OTHER IN THE RIVERSIDE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE KB HOMES HAS DECIDED THEY SURE DO SAVE MONEY BY BUILDING ELECTRIC HOMES. SOME OF THEM LIKE MENIFEE AT OAK SHADE HAS THEIR OWN ELECTRIC COMMUNITY. IT'S DISTRIBUTED ENERGY. THEIR OWN GRID IS POWERING ALL OF THEIR HOMES FROM THE SOLAR ON THE ROOFS. THE FUTURE IS ALL ELECTRIC. THERE ARE NO MANDATES FOR DECARBONIZING OF EXISTING BUILDINGS. THERE IS NO REACH CODE ORDINANCE FOR A GAS-FREE HOME. PREFERRED ELECTRIC WITH ENERGY STANDARDS IS THE WAY CALIFORNIA IS GOING WITH THEIR REACH CODES ORDINANCES. SAN LUIS OBISPO AND SINDHIS HAVE EXAMPLES FOR US. THERE'S NOT MUCH TIME. WE NEED TO PASS THE CAP. THANK YOU. >> MICHAEL MCMAHON, FOLLOWED BY BOB WILCOX. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I'M MICHAEL MCMAHON. I'M A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD. THE CITY HAS DONE MONTHS OF WORK TO PUT TOGETHER AND QUANTIFY STRATEGIES IN OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TO HELP OUR CITY DECREASE ITS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS TO MEET THE REDUCTION TARGETS OF 2035 AND 2045. BUT A LARGE PORTION OF PROVIDING DIRECTION FOR OUR CITY IS FOLLOWING WHAT'S STATED IN OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND COMMUNITY VALUES OF SUSTAINABILITY DOCUMENT AND ACTIONS IN OUR DECLARATION OF A CLIMATE EMERGENCY, WHICH STATES OUR COMMITMENT TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE AND MITIGATES ITS EFFECT. A MONTH AGO, THE CAP UPDATE WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WAS A CLOSE VOTE, WHICH WENT TO ELIMINATING WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN OUR MARGIN OF SAFETY IN OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. BUT THE OTHER PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTED A CLEAN ADOPTION OF THE CAP WITHOUT EXCLUSIONS AND HERE'S WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. WE'RE IN A CLIMATE EMERGENCY SITUATION. BY APPROVING THIS CAP, WE ACTUALLY CAN EXPEDITE OUR HOUSING ELEMENT GOALS. IN SOME CASES, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL, BUT WE DO HAVE CONTROL OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO START IN OUR BACKYARD. TO APPROACH THIS HOLISTICALLY IS TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS 20-YEAR PLAN AND NOT PICK IT APART. LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT, IT SHOWS A CONSISTENT CONCLUSION IN THE BENEFITS AND DRAWBACKS SECTION AND THAT'S REMOVING ANY OR ALL OF THE PROPOSED REACH CODES WILL CAUSE A DELAY IN IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CAP UPDATE AND DOES NOT ADDRESS STAKEHOLDER COMMENTS THAT SAY DO ALL THAT WE CAN. AS THE CAP SAYS BY 2045, THE CITY ESTIMATES THAT THERE WILL BE 7,000 MORE HOUSING UNITS USING ENERGY. BY APPROVING THE CAP UPDATE TONIGHT WITH NO EXCLUSIONS AND STARTING TO BUILD USING ENERGY PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT ARE PROVEN, COST-EFFECTIVE AND SAVE ENERGY, WE'LL BE PROVIDING SAFE BUILDINGS WITH CLEAN AIR QUALITY AT THE SAME TIME, REDUCING CITY'S GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS DECADES INTO THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> BOB WILCOX FOLLOWED BY MARY HANSEN. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BOB WILCOX. I LIVE IN CARLSBAD WITH MY WIFE AND TWO KIDS. I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THE FULL CLIMATE ACTION PLAN PUT TOGETHER BY CITY STAFF WITHOUT REMOVING ANY INITIATIVES. IT'S A THOROUGH THOUGHTFUL PLAN AND STAFF SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE. BUT I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE INITIATIVES THAT SEEM TO BE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK, SPECIFICALLY THE BUILDING REACH CODES. YOU MIGHT THINK THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS TOO BIG OF A PROBLEM TO TACKLE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE BY MAKING THESE CHANGES LOCALLY. NEWER, BETTER TECHNOLOGIES ARE AVAILABLE, AND THEY'RE EVEN COST-EFFECTIVE SO THAT WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP BUILDING AND INSTALLING THESE NEW POLLUTING INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE GAS-BURNING FURNACES AND WATER HEATERS. BY ENACTING REACH CODES TO REQUIRE STRONG PERFORMANCE AND EFFICIENCY STANDARDS IN NEW BUILDINGS, WILL SAVE MONEY BY NOT HAVING TO SPEND TENS OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THIS OLD POLLUTING TECHNOLOGY IN EVERY SINGLE BUILDING THAT WE PUT UP. THESE ARE MONEY SAVING INITIATIVES BOTH IN THE SHORT TERM WHEN YOU AVOID THE COST OF INSTALLING THAT NEW GAS INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO IN THE LONG TERM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU START TO THINK ABOUT THE COST OF RETROFITS. WHEN WE INSIST ON THESE MODERN ELECTRIC ALTERNATIVES TO FOSSIL FUELS, [01:25:05] IT INCREASES THE MARKET FOR ALL THESE ELECTRIC MACHINES. THEN THAT SPINS UP PRODUCTION. INDUSTRY GETS BETTER AT INSTALLING THE NEW HARDWARE, AND THAT BRINGS THE COST DOWN EVEN FURTHER. THAT HELPS OUT ESPECIALLY LOCALLY, BUT IT ALSO HELPS FOR OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD. WE CAN REALLY EXPAND OUR IMPACT FOR WHAT WE DO HERE TO HAVE A BIG GLOBAL EFFECT. THE LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS JUST THAT POLITICIANS OF ANY PARTY WILL BE REMEMBERED BY HOW THEY VOTE ON THESE THINGS. ESPECIALLY, IN YOUNGER GENERATIONS, CLIMATE CHANGE IS A TOP ISSUE AND NO POLITICIAN OF ANY PARTY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA OR ANYWHERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE DECADES IS GOING TO HAVE A FUTURE UNLESS THEY ARE SEEN AS BEING IN THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS ISSUE. I REALLY WANT TO GET THAT POINT ACROSS THAT YOUNGER GENERATIONS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A THING THAT PEOPLE LOOK TO WHEN THEY DECIDE ON WHO THEY VOTE FOR EVERY YEAR. WE FRANKLY NEED MORE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE HOW MAYBE IT'S PENNY-WISE, BUT IT'S POUND-FOOLISH TO CONTINUE TO INVEST AND OVER-INVEST IN ALL FOSSIL FUEL INFRASTRUCTURE JUST BECAUSE OF INERTIA, JUST BECAUSE IT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. WE HAVE CHEAPER, MORE EFFICIENT ALTERNATIVES AND WE SHOULD BE BUILDING THOSE THINGS INSTEAD OF WASTING MONEY BY BUILDING FOSSIL FUEL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO RIP OUT OR JUST ABANDON IN THE FUTURE. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. >> MARY HANSEN FOLLOWED BY VANESSA FORSYTH. >> HELLO. I'M MARY HANSEN. MAYOR BLACKBURN, COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD, I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE UPDATED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AS WRITTEN, OPTION NUMBER 4. ALL DEPARTMENTS OF CITY STAFF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CREATION OF THIS PLAN AND THEY MADE A TREMENDOUS EFFORT TO GET INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC. THE RESPONSES FROM THE RESIDENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT THEY SPOKE TO ARE IN YOUR PACKET, AND THEY RESOUNDINGLY SAY THEY WANT A ROBUST CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. AS HOMEOWNERS, WE'RE MAKING CHANGES. WE INVEST IN SOLAR PANELS AND HEAT PUMPS. WE DRIVE ELECTRIC CARS AND HYBRIDS, BUT WE DEPEND ON YOU TO MAKE THE BIG DECISIONS THAT MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT. WE DEPEND ON YOU TO STAY TRUE TO THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY RESOLUTION THAT YOU PASSED IN 2021. OUR CHILDREN ARE WATCHING US. THEY KNOW THE OCEAN IS RISING, THEY KNOW THE DROUGHTS AND WILDFIRES ARE GETTING WORSE. THEY HAVE GO TWO BAGS PACKED FOR EVACUATIONS. THEY DEPEND ON ALL OF US TO MAKE THE WORLD SAFER AND IMAGINE A BETTER FUTURE. I ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE CAP UPDATE PLAN AS WRITTEN, OPTION NUMBER 4. THANK YOU. >> VANESSA FORSYTH, FOLLOWED BY BARBARA DIAMOND. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN, CITY COUNCILORS. YOUNG PEOPLE WHO JOINED US TODAY, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. I'M VANESSA FORSYTH. I HAVE RESIDED HERE FOR 25 YEARS. I ASK THAT YOU ADOPT THE MEASURES INDICATED IN THE PROPOSED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN DATE, INCLUDING THE BUSINESS AND RESIDENTIAL REACH CODES AND SOLAR CARPORTS THAT THE CITY OWNS OVER THEIR PARKING LOTS. ALL OF THESE WERE INCLUDED IN THE PREVIOUS CAP. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IT IS NECESSARY FOR APPROVAL ALSO OF ADDENDUM 1, THE HOUSING AND SAFETY ELEMENT DATE SO IMPLEMENTATION CAN GO FORWARD. THANK YOU TO KATIE HENTRICH AND STAFF FOR THEIR EFFORTS ON THIS UPDATED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, A TREMENDOUS EFFORT. THROUGHOUT THE PLAN, MOST OF THE ACTIONS INDICATE A CO-BENEFIT OF PUBLIC HEALTH. AS A HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL AND COMMUNITY MEMBER, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE FACTORS BOTH UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM THAT WILL DECREASE GREENHOUSE GASES AND ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE AND ARE SHOWN IN THIS UPDATED CAP, ALONG WITH GOING FORWARD FOR IMPLEMENTATION MEASURES RELATIVE TO THE HEALTH AND SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE EXPERIENCING MORE EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, INCLUDING RISING TEMPERATURES, DROUGHT, SEVERE STORMS WITH FLOODING AND LANDSLIDES, RISING SEA LEVELS, BEACH EROSION AND WILDFIRES. ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE RELATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND ARE IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY AND PLANET SUSTAINABILITY, AS WELL AS RESULTING IN IMMEDIATE HEALTH AND ECONOMIC COSTS. [01:30:02] THESE COSTS AND HEALTH IMPACTS INCLUDE; IMPACTING OUR CROP YIELDS AND FOOD SUPPLY, DECREASING OUR WATER SUPPLY, INCREASING ER VISITS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS WITH LOSS OF WORK TIME AND SCHOOL ATTENDANCE, INCREASED OCCURRENCE OF OVERHEATING AND HEAT STROKE, PRE-CHAIN BIRTHS, AND INJURIES. LOSS OF GREEN CANOPY, AND CARBON SEQUESTRATION AS WE LOSE TREES AND LAGOONS. INCREASED ALLERGENS AND POLLEN, INCREASED VECTOR-BORNE AND INFECTIOUS DISEASE THAT THRIVE IN HEAT. MENTAL HEALTH AND STRESS-RELATED DISORDERS, PARTICULARLY IMPACTING OUR YOUTH WITH THEIR INCREASING UNCERTAINTY AND CONCERN ABOUT THEIR FUTURE, AS WELL AS SEVERITY OF LUNG, HEART AND KIDNEY CONDITIONS. I DID REFER YOU IN MY WRITTEN COMMENT TO THE CDC AND THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE ON HEALTH. AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. >> BARBARA DIAMOND, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL KING. >> CITY COUNCIL. I'M BARBARA DIAMOND, A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD FOR 26 YEARS. I'M HERE TO STRONGLY URGE YOU TO APPROVE OF THE PROPOSED MEASURES IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. THE STAKES ARE INCREDIBLY HIGH. TONIGHT, YOU WILL HEAR ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES. SOME QUESTIONING HOW STRONG THE CAP MEASURES SHOULD BE. FOR ME, THE ANSWER IS CLEAR. WE MUST DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. NOT ONLY IS THIS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE, IT IS ALSO AN ECONOMIC ONE. THE COST OF INACTION IS STAGGERING AND WILL COME OUT OF ALL OUR POCKETS IN DIFFERENT FORMS, INCREASED TAXES TO COVER THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE COSTS FOR MORE FREQUENT AND MORE SEVERE STORMS, WILDFIRES AND DROUGHTS. HIGHER INSURANCE PREMIUMS AND INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR COSTS JUST TO NAME A FEW. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME BUSINESSES WORRY ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF A STRONGER CAP MEASURE AND FEAR THAT MAKING CHANGES WOULD LEAD TO SERIOUS LOSSES. BUT HISTORY SHOWS US THAT THE ECONOMY IS RESILIENT. WE HAVE BOUNCED BACK FROM THE GREAT DEPRESSION, THE STAGFLATION OF THE 70S AND THE 2008 FINANCIAL COLLAPSE. CAPITALISM ADAPTS. HOWEVER, OUR CLIMATE DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME RESILIENCE. IF WE PASS THE TIPPING POINT, THERE IS NO ECONOMIC STRATEGY, NO POLICY THAT WILL RESTORE THE ENVIRONMENT WE RELY ON. THE SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS IS CLEAR. OUR CLIMATE IS NEARING THE TIPPING POINT AND LIFE AS WE KNOW WILL BE DRASTICALLY IMPACTED IF WE EXCEED THREE DEGREES FAHRENHEIT ABOVE PRE-INDUSTRIAL LEVELS. EVEN WITH CURRENT EFFORTS, GLOBAL TEMPERATURES ARE ON A STEADY RISE. MANY MODELS PREDICT THAT IF WE DO NOT TAKE URGENT ACTION, WE WILL REACH THE TIPPING POINT AS EARLY AS 2045, BARELY A GENERATION AWAY. THIS MEANS THAT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. WE CANNOT AFFORD HALF MEASURES NOR CAN WE AFFORD TO DELAY. I ASK YOU TO MAKE THE BOLD DIFFICULT BUT NECESSARY DECISION TO APPROVE THE CAP MEASURES IN FULL, PARTICULARLY MEASURE NUMBER 4 AND EVEN NUMBER 5. I THINK THERE'D BE SOME BACKLASH AND MAYBE SOME SUPPORTERS PARTICULARLY IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY MAY PUSH BACK AND EVEN WITHDRAW FINANCIAL SUPPORT. >> MA'AM, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU. >> MICHAEL KING, FOLLOWED BY JIMMY JACKSON. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR BLACKBURN AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. FOR EVERYONE HERE, IT WASN'T SO LONG AGO THAT I WAS A STUDENT SITTING IN THE BACK ROW, EITHER. MY NAME IS MICHAEL KING, AND I AM A CONSERVATION ORGANIZER WITH THE SAN DIEGO CHAPTER OF THE SIERRA CLUB WORKING HERE IN THE NORTH COUNTY. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR 13,000 MEMBERS AND OVER 28,000 SUPPORTERS IN SAN DIEGO AND IMPERIAL COUNTIES, INCLUDING MANY MEMBERS RIGHT HERE IN CARLSBAD. BEFORE COMING TO THIS POSITION, I HAVE SPENT TIME WORKING ON FRONT LINES OF CLIMATE IMPACTED COMMUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD. [01:35:04] THIS IS NOT AN ABSTRACT THING FOR ME. I HAVE ALSO WORKED AT THE INTERNATIONAL AND NATIONAL LEVELS AND SEEN WHAT INCREDIBLE DYSFUNCTION THERE IS IN LEADERSHIP ON CLIMATE. I CAME TO THIS POSITION BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE FUTURE OF CLIMATE ACTION IS AT THE CITY LEVEL, AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL. WHEN WE LOOK AT LEADERSHIP IN THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD, MAKING PROGRESS ON THESE THINGS IS NOT GUARANTEED. IT IS UP TO OUR CITIES AND OUR STATES TO SHOW LEADERSHIP. AND OVERWHELMINGLY, THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND IN THE ANALYSIS THAT CITY HAS DONE HAS SHOWN THAT THEY WANT CARLSBAD TO BE A LEADER ON THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. AS OUR FRIENDS HAVE ALREADY POINTED OUT, ELECTRIC IS BETTER FOR OUR PUBLIC HEALTH. IT IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE AND IT IS MORE EFFICIENT IN THE LONG RUN. WELL, THERE ARE MANY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE PLANS CAN BE IMPLEMENTED. MORE STUDIES CAN BE DONE, MORE ANALYSIS CAN BE CONDUCTED, AND MORE ACCOMMODATIONS CAN BE MADE AS ORDINANCES ARE DRAWN UP TO IMPLEMENT THIS CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. SO ADAPTING THE FOURTH OPTION GIVES YOU EVERY TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX YOU NEED. IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY PRESCRIBE HOW IN EVERY SPECIFIC WAY IT IS IMPLEMENTED. SO WE ASK THAT YOU TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THOSE TOOLS AND SHOW THAT CARLSBAD WILL CONTINUE TO BE A LEADER AND CONTINUE TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF FIGHTING, NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE HERE AND CARLSBAD, BUT FOR THE FUTURE OF THE PLANET. THANK YOU. >> JIMMY JACKSON, FOLLOWED BY MIKE BORRELLO. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M JIMMY JACKSON. I'M SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF POLICY OFFICER FOR BIOCOM, CALIFORNIA. WE REPRESENT OVER 1,800 MEMBERS IN THE LIFE SCIENCE SPACE IN CALIFORNIA AND BEYOND WITH OVER 600 MEMBERS HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY. AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, CARLSBAD IS SAN DIEGO COUNTY'S SECOND LARGEST LIFE SCIENCE CLUSTER. THE LIFE SCIENCE INDUSTRY SHARES THE CITY'S GOAL OF REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. OUR FACILITIES ARE GENERALLY NEWER AND AND COMPLY WITH AND OFTEN EXCEED A WIDE VARIETY OF REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO SUSTAINABILITY. IN SOME CASES, THESE FACILITIES ARE NOT ABLE TO OPERATE WITH A 100% ELECTRIC SERVICE DUE TO VERY SPECIFIC NEEDS. ONE CONSIDERATION IS THE USE OF GAS-POWERED BACKUP GENERATORS NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT RESEARCH CONTINUES IN THE CASE OF A POWER OUTAGE. RESEARCH HAPPENS AROUND THE CLOCK, AND BATTERY BACKUP TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT EXIST TO OPERATE THESE LABORATORIES DURING AN OUTAGE. ADDITIONALLY, SOME TECHNOLOGIES SUCH AS BOILERS HAVE VERY PRECISE TEMPERATURE NEEDS THAT CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED USING GAS POWER. FINALLY, WE ECHO THE CONCERNS OF OTHERS IN THE BUILDING COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED CONFIRMATION FROM ELECTRIC PROVIDERS THAT THE GRID CAN HANDLE ALL FACILITIES OPERATING AT 100% ELECTRIC. GIVEN THESE LIMITATIONS, WE URGE THE CITY TO PASS A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT FOR BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION. POLICY RELATED TO ELECTRIFICATION CAN BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY HOPEFULLY WITH OPTIONS FOR ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, IT'S A LONG DAY, IF A BUILDING CANNOT OPERATE AT 100% ELECTRIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MIKE BORRELLO, FOLLOWED BY [INAUDIBLE] >> HI, EVERYBODY. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. I'M GOING TO JUMP IN. IN OUR COURT SYSTEMS, AND UNDER CRIMINAL LAW, DEFENSE FOR THE ACCUSED WILL OFTEN SEEK TO RAISE REASONABLE DOUBT BEFORE A JURY, TO PROTECT LIFE AND LIBERTY. AMERICAN JUSTICE DEMANDS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT WHEN PROSECUTION HAS FAILED TO MAKE AN AIR TIGHT CASE, AND ESPECIALLY WHERE THE PENALTIES ARE VERY HARSH. I'M HERE TODAY TO RAISE REASONABLE DOUBT, NOT AS AN ATTORNEY, BUT AS A CITIZEN OF THE CITY WHO IS SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING MY TAX DOLLARS SPENT ON QUIXOTIC AND UNJUSTIFIED CLIMATE ACTION PLANS. NEARLY ALL OF THE CLAIMED EVIDENCE OF MANMADE CLIMATE CHANGE HINGES ON GLOBAL CIRCULATION MODELS THAT HAVE CONTINUALLY FAILED TO PREDICT EVEN SHORT TERM CHANGES IN CLIMATE TRENDS AS A RESULT OF GREENHOUSE GASES, LET ALONE PREDICTIONS IN THE LONG TERM. THEY REQUIRE FREQUENT RETUNING, CORRECTIONS, AND RESTRUCTURING TO GET THE ANSWER RIGHT ACCORDING TO THE SPONSOR'S WISHES. THE INSTITUTIONS THAT ESTABLISHED THESE MODELS INCLUDE THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND THE UNIVERSITY OF COLLEGE LONDON. THESE ARE THE SAME ONES THAT IMAGINED THE EPIDEMIOLOGICAL MODELS AND WHO WROTE THE SIMULATIONS THAT WRONGLY PREDICTED THAT BY THE END OF 2020, [01:40:02] HOSPITALS WOULD BE OVERFLOWING. BY SEPTEMBER THAT YEAR, PETER NAVARRO ANNOUNCED IN A NOTICEABLY IRRITATED TONE, THE GOVERNMENT WOULD BE CANCELING CONTRACTS IN HUNDREDS MILLIONS OF VENTILATORS THAT HAD BEEN ORDERED TO MEET THE WOULD BE CRISIS. THE MODEL HAS ONLY CREATED PANIC, FEAR, AND UNPRECEDENTED ECONOMIC LOSS. WE ARE STILL COPING WITH THAT TODAY. DURING COVID, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND PHARMA PAID LUMINARIES OFTEN COUNTERED ANTI-VAXXERS WITH CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION. YET IN THE CLIMATE CRUSADE, IT SEEMS THE NARRATIVE IS SWEPT UNDER THE RUG. SHOW ME THE SO CALLED CONSENSUS OF BONAFIDE GEOPHYSICISTS, CLIMATOLOGISTS, AND ATMOSPHERIC SCIENTISTS. ANY THAT ARE NOT CAPTURED BY THE FEDERAL MONEY THAT SAY CO_2 IS CAUSING RUNAWAY GLOBAL TEMPERATURES, CRICKETS. NOW FOR REASONABLE DOUBT, RECENTLY, A TEAM OF EIGHT ASTRO AND GEOPHYSICISTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE IN THE ASTROPHYSICAL JOURNAL. THEY STITCHED TOGETHER ARCHIVED DATA FROM ALL EIGHT EARTH ORBIT SATELLITES, TASKED WITH MEASURING UNOBSTRUCTED SOLAR IRRADIANCE WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF LEARNING THE VARIANCE IN SOLAR CYCLES BETWEEN 1978-2023. THOSE ARE 11 YEAR CYCLES. THESE RESULTS RAISE REASONABLE DOUBT THAT THE CAUSE OF RECENT CLIMATE CHANGE IS DUE TO CHANGES IN SOLAR FLUX. POLICYMAKERS SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THIS RESULT BEFORE FURTHER COMMITTING OR INVESTING ANY PROJECTS THAT USE TAXPAYER MONEY TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE. THANK YOU. >> [INAUDIBLE] FOLLOWED BY KATHY PARKER. >> HI, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M [INAUDIBLE] AND WHILE I DO SUPPORT OPTION NUMBER 4, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE OTHER MEASURES. I TOO AND THE OTHER CARLSBAD REPRESENTATIVE TO THE CEAS COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, CEA HAS A TARGET OF 2035 FOR HAVING ALL CUSTOMERS AT 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY. PARTICIPATING IN CEA WAS PERHAPS THE SINGLE LARGEST IMPACT OF ANY CAP MEASURE IN LOWERING OUR EMISSIONS. BUT ONLY ABOUT 200 OF OUR 50,000 ACCOUNTS IN THE CITY HAVE OPTED UP TO 100% CLEAN ENERGY. IF THE CITY SETS A DEFAULT OF 100% RENEWABLES FOR OUR RESIDENTS BY 2030, THAT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR GHG EMISSIONS. WE NEED TO AT LEAST SET SOME TARGET IN THE CAP TO DO THIS THAT'S MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN 2035. SKIPPING AHEAD TO TRANSPORTATION, MANY OF THESE ISSUES ARE AIMED AT ENHANCING SAFETY AND ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS GREAT. MEASURE T8 FOCUSES ON INCREASING PUBLIC ZERO EMISSION INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH PRETTY MUCH MEANS MORE EV CHARGING STATIONS. ONE THING YOU HEAR ABOUT FROM MANY CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT OUR CAP IS THE CONCERN THAT THE GRID IS NOT STABLE ENOUGH TO HANDLE MORE EVS AND GREATER BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION. RECENTLY, OUR GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW REQUIRING EVS TO BE BIDIRECTIONALLY CAPABLE. THIS MEANS NOT ONLY CAN EVS BE CHARGED FROM THE GRID, BUT EVS CAN HELP SUPPORT THE GRID WHEN AT HOME BY USING THEIR BATTERIES TO RUN HOUSEHOLDS DURING PEAK DEMAND HOURS, LIKE I DO WITH MY TESLA POWERWALL. THIS ESSENTIALLY MEANS ANYONE WITH AN EV COULD USE IT AS A HOME BATTERY, THUS SAVING CUSTOMERS MONEY BY LOWERING THE NEED FOR MORE GRID INFRASTRUCTURE AND FLATTENING OUT OUR GRID DEMAND DURING THOSE TYPICALLY HIGH HOURS OF 4:00-9:00 P.M. TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN EFFECTIVELY, MEANS EV OWNERS NEED TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE THEIR VEHICLES DURING THE DAY LIKELY AT WORK. WHEN SOLAR IS PLENTIFUL, HENCE THE NEED FOR MORE CHARGERS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE MY SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO MEASURE E2, WHICH DEALS WITH CEA AND T8, WHICH DEALS WITH EV CHARGERS TO MAKE OUR CAPS STRONGER. THANK YOU. >> KATHY PARKER, FOLLOWED BY BOB KEEFE. >> HELLO, I'M KATHY PARKER, CARLSBAD RESIDENT. I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO ADOPT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AS IT IS WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS. THE CARLSBAD TEAM OF THE SIERRA CLUB, WHICH HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT CONSERVATION ISSUES STARTED WORKING 10 YEARS AGO TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE BY ENCOURAGING THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO JOIN THE CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE. THIS RESULTED IN THE ADOPTION OF THE CLIMATE ENERGY RESOLUTION THREE YEARS AGO. SINCE THEN, WE'VE SHIFTED OUR GOALS OF PROMOTING CLEAN ENERGY FOCUS ON THE CARLSBAD CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. [01:45:02] WE STRONGLY SUPPORT BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION, WHICH IS ADDRESSED IN PART OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN THROUGH PROPOSED REACH CODES. IN THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY RESOLUTION ADOPTED THREE YEARS AGO, BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION IS SUPPORTED. BUILDINGS CONTRIBUTE 30% OF OUR EMISSIONS. IN CONCLUSION, PLEASE ADOPT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WITH ALL THE MEASURES INCLUDED AND MAKE A 47 YEAR RESIDENT PROUD OF CARLSBAD. >> BOB KEEFE, FOLLOWED BY CRAIG BENEDETTO. >> MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT. MY NAME IS BOB KEEFE. I HAPPEN TO BE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED E2, WHICH IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF MORE THAN 10,000 BUSINESS LEADERS WHO ADVOCATE FOR POLICIES THAT ARE GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. WE GOT OUR START IN THE BAY AREA 25 YEARS AGO, AND SINCE THEN WE'VE BEEN A LEADING BUSINESS VOICE FOR CLIMATE ACTION AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS, AND WE WORKED ON A LOT OF THE POLICIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY AT THE FOUNDATION OF THIS CLIMATE PLAN SUCH AS AB32 AND SB100 AND BEFORE THAT, THE CALIFORNIA CLEAN CARS CAMPAIGN. I'M ALSO THE AUTHOR OF A COUPLE OF BOOKS ON THE ECONOMICS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND CLEAN ENERGY. I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO LAWMAKERS IN WASHINGTON AND SACRAMENTO AND STATE HOUSES AROUND THE COUNTRY. BUT I'M REALLY PRIVILEGED TO BE HERE TONIGHT AS A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS AND THE FATHER OF THREE DAUGHTERS HAVE TO INHERIT THIS CITY AND THE WORLD WE'RE LEAVING THEM. I REALLY DO THINK THE CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS A GOOD ONE, AND THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT. BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THIS PLAN WAS LAST BEFORE YOU. GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN NOW, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE THIS PLAN EVEN BETTER, MAKE IT STRONGER AND MORE COMPREHENSIVE BY ADOPTING OPTION 4 AND ESTABLISHING THE REACH GOALS AND THE CODES THAT WILL HELP THIS CITY EXCEED ITS EARLIER AMBITIONS. HERE'S THREE REASONS WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO IT AND TO DO IT NOW. FIRST, IT'S VERY CLEAR WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE ELECTRICITY, WHETHER IT'S FOR AI OR MORE HOUSING LIKE THE PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL APPROVED EARLIER TONIGHT AND BEYOND FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR GENERAL CONSUMER USAGE AND BUSINESS USAGE. WE MUST MAKE SURE THAT ELECTRICITY IS CLEAN, CHEAP, AND QUICK TO DEPLOY. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY IS THE CHEAPEST POWER AVAILABLE, AND IT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE THE QUICKEST TO DEPLOY. THE MOST LOGICAL THING A CITY CAN DO LIKE THIS CITY IS TO UPDATE ITS CODES TO INCREASE THINGS LIKE RESIDENTIAL, NON-RESIDENTIAL CLEAN ENERGY SOURCES LIKE SOLAR CAR PORTS, CANOPIES, ETC. SECOND IS ABOUT ECONOMICS. WE'RE ALL CONTINUING TO PAY THE GROWING COST OF CLIMATE CHANGE, BUT WE'RE ALSO CONTINUING TO SEE THE BENEFITS OF CLIMATE ACTION AND JOBS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESSES HERE IN CARLSBAD AND BEYOND. THEN FINALLY, THIS IS ABOUT LEADERSHIP. AFTER THE LAST WEEK'S ELECTION, CLIMATE ACTION, CLIMATE LEADERSHIP IS GOING TO FALL TO CITIES, TO STATES LIKE THIS ONE. YOU ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS PLAN BIGGER, BETTER, AND REALLY LEAD FOR THIS CITY, FOR OUR CONSTITUENT, FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND REALLY FOR THE COUNTRY. I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU. >> CRAIG BENEDETTO, FOLLOWED BY MELANIE WOODS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CRAIG BENEDETTO. I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING NAIOP, SAN DIEGO AND BOMA SAN DIEGO. OUR MEMBERS OWN AND OPERATE MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY INCLUDING THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. THIS INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, INDUSTRIAL, OFFICE AND RETAIL PROPERTIES. OUR MEMBERS ALSO INVEST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR OPTION 1, AS DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS. THE MODIFICATIONS ARE TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT FOR ELECTRIFYING CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND FURTHER RATCHETING UP THE CITY'S ALREADY DIFFICULT TDM MEASURES. A BROAD COALITION LETTER, WHICH INCLUDES OUR ORGANIZATIONS, AS WELL AS THE CARLSBAD CHAMBER AND THE SAN DIEGO NORTH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AND OTHERS, SOME OF WHOM ARE REPRESENTED TONIGHT, WAS SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. LET ME BE CLEAR. OUR GROUP SUPPORT REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, BUT WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT GOING FURTHER BEYOND OPTION NUMBER 1 GIVEN BOTH COST CONSEQUENCES AND CONFUSION IN THE MUNICIPAL MARKETPLACE. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, NO COST ANALYSIS HAS BEEN COMPLETED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND CITY RESIDENTS OF GOING BEYOND THIS OPTION. WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BALANCE THE CONCERNS OF JOB CREATORS AND HOUSING PROVIDERS WITH OTHER CONSTITUENCIES, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE NOT OPPOSING THE CAP, BUT SUPPORT ITS ADOPTION THROUGH OPTION NUMBER 1. THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE SIMPLY INFEASIBLE. WE'LL LIKELY INCREASE HOUSING. [01:50:02] HOUSING COSTS, HARM JOBS, REDUCE CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND CREATE A LEGAL RISK FOR THE CITY. THE ONLY FEASIBLE WAY TO IMPLEMENT THE OTHER OPTIONS WOULD LIKELY BE TO REMOVE ALL NATURAL GAS USED FROM A STRUCTURE. GIVEN THE BERKELEY APPELLATE COURT DECISION, YOU REALLY CAN'T PASS PROPERTIES AND USES, WHICH CREATES THE LEGAL JEOPARDY. IN THE GHG SAVINGS FROM GOING BEYOND OPTION 1 IS NEGLIGIBLE, NOT TO MENTION WITHOUT THEM, THE CITY STILL MEETS ITS 2035 AND 2045 REQUIREMENTS. IN TERMS OF THE OTHER ITEMS, ELECTRIC CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT LARGELY DOES NOT EXIST, AND YOUR CURRENT TDM MEASURES ARE ALREADY BEING UNDERUTILIZED DUE TO THEIR COST AND COMPLEXITY. REMOVING THEM WILL ALSO NOT HARM YOUR ABILITY TO MEET YOUR GOALS. ACTIONS LIKE THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD DECISION THIS PAST WEEKEND TO CHANGE THE LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARDS WILL MORE THAN COVER THINGS LIKE THIS, AS WELL AS OTHER ACTIONS THAT WILL LIKELY BE TAKEN AT THE STATE LEVEL IN YEARS TO COME. KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS A LONG TERM PLAN. IT'S A 20 YEAR PLAN. IN CLOSING, WE UNDERSTAND THESE ARE DIFFICULT DECISIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE NOT HERE OPPOSING THE CAP. WE BELIEVE JOBS CREATION, A HEALTHY ECONOMY, AND THE NEED TO KEEP HOUSING COSTS DOWN MUST BE BALANCED AGAINST ANY UNNECESSARILY AGGRESSIVE ACTION. YOU CAN ACHIEVE THIS BALANCE AND STILL LOVE THE ENVIRONMENT WITH OPTION NUMBER 1. I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET AN A PLUS, BUT IN THIS CASE, AN A IS GOOD ENOUGH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF OPTION 1 WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, AND THANK YOU TO KATIE AND THE STAFF FOR MEETING WITH US SO OFTEN. TAKE CARE. >> MELANIE WOODS, FOLLOWED BY LAURIE FILER. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. I'M MELANIE WOODS, VICE PRESIDENT AT THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION. CAA IS A STATEWIDE NONPROFIT TRADE ASSOCIATION SERVING RENTAL HOUSING OWNERS, OPERATORS, AND PROVIDERS. WE REPRESENT OVER 3,000 MEMBERS HERE IN SAN DIEGO, WHO PROVIDE HOMES TO NEARLY 65,000 LOCAL FAMILIES. WE'RE HERE AS CRAIG MENTIONED, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A LARGER COALITION OF BUSINESS STAKEHOLDERS, ASKING YOU TO BALANCE THE URGENT NEED TO REDUCE GHG EMISSIONS WITH THE EXORBITANT COST TO BUSINESSES AND HOUSING PROVIDERS. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO TOOK THE TIME TO MEET WITH US AND HEAR OUR CONCERNS. WE'RE HERE IN SUPPORT OF OPTION 1 WITH A FEW MEANINGFUL MODIFICATIONS. THESE MODIFICATIONS STILL ALLOW CARLSBAD TO MEET THEIR 2045 GOALS, BUT MINIMIZE THE MOST HARMFUL IMPACTS TO BUSINESSES AND HOUSING PROVIDERS. AS WRITTEN, THE CAP LACKS DETAIL ON EXACTLY HOW THESE NEW GOALS WILL BE ACHIEVED, WHICH MASKS THE TRUE COSTS AND CHALLENGES WITH IMPLEMENTING THESE NEW STANDARDS. I'LL GO INTO DETAIL ON JUST ONE MEASURE, DECARBONIZATION OF EXISTING BUILDINGS. THIS MEASURE RELIES ON 12,000 HOMES VOLUNTARILY ELECTRIFYING BASED ON EXISTING INCENTIVES AND PROGRAMS. I CAN TELL YOU, NO SUCH INCENTIVE EXISTS TO COVER THE COST TO ELECTRIFY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING PROPERTIES. WHILE NO MANDATE IS INCLUDED, WE FORESEE STRICTER POLICIES WILL BE NECESSARY TO MEET THE GOALS THAT YOU'RE LAYING OUT IN THE CAP TODAY. YOU'RE LOCKING YOURSELF INTO THIS GOAL WITH NO EXACT ROADMAP FOR HOW TO ACHIEVE IT, BUT TECHNOLOGY AND INCENTIVES ARE CHANGING RAPIDLY. WE SUPPORT ADDING IN THE SOLAR CARPORTS AS PART OF THE CITY LEADING BY EXAMPLE, 70 MILLION IS THE COST TO JUST THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT THE CAP BEFORE THESE CARPORTS AND THE COST TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ARE MANY MILLIONS MORE. ELECTRICAL CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT SIMPLY DOES NOT EXIST IN THE MARKET TODAY, AND ONEROUS REACH CODES ARE INCREDIBLY COSTLY AND WILL LEAD TO A HIGHER COST OF HOUSING IN THE NEAR AND MIDTERM. WE'RE FACING A CLIMATE CRISIS, BUT WE ARE ALSO FACING A VERY IMMEDIATE HOUSING CRISIS. YOUR ACTIONS TODAY COULD ALSO INCREASE THE HOUSING, INCREASE THE COST OF HOUSING AND FURTHER EXACERBATE THIS CRISIS. PLEASE STRIKE A BALANCE. THANK YOU. >> LAURIE FILER, FOLLOWED BY ANTHONY DANG. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LAURIE HOLT FILER, AND I AM THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION. I'D LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR TAKING TIME TO MEET WITH US AND HEAR OUR CONCERNS. OUR COALITION HAS BEEN STEADFAST IN OUR COMMENTS AND CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 1 ON THE LIST OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WITH AMENDMENTS. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE REQUIREMENT FOR ELECTRIFICATION OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS BE REMOVED. OUR NATURAL CONCERN IS THAT ANY ADDITIONAL REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT INCREASE THE COST OF HOUSING PRODUCTION WILL ONLY CONTINUE OR EXACERBATE OUR CURRENT HOUSING CRISIS [01:55:04] FOR FAMILIES WHO ALREADY CANNOT AFFORD TO PURCHASE A HOME. THERE ARE ALREADY EFFORTS UNDERWAY FROM STATE OFFICIALS TO UPDATE THE BUILDING CODE STANDARDS TO MEET TARGETS. INSTEAD OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ADDITIONAL REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, THE CITY SHOULD WAIT FOR THE COMPLETION OF THESE CODE UPDATES TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT ON GHD REDUCTIONS. RECOMMENDATION, NUMBER 1, WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO REDUCE GHG EMISSIONS WHILE ALSO BALANCING THE COST AND CONSEQUENCES TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. IN REGARDS TO OUR REQUESTED AMENDMENTS, WE ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF MANDATING THE ELECTRIFICATION OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. IN MOST CASES, THIS KIND OF EQUIPMENT IS NOT AVAILABLE AND WHERE IT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. ADDITIONALLY, WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THE INTENT BEHIND IMPLEMENTING TDM PROGRAMS, IT IS TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS AND REDUCE CONGESTIONS. BUT IN OUR EXPERIENCE, THESE PROGRAMS ARE DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT EXPENSIVE AND UNPOPULAR, AND IMPOSSIBLE TO MANAGE. TAKEN TOGETHER BY 2045, THESE TWO PROGRAMS ACCOUNT FOR A FRACTION OF THE TOTAL EXPECTED REDUCTIONS. PUT PLAINLY, THE BENEFITS RESULTING FROM THESE ITEMS ARE NOT WORTH THE COST IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON CARLSBAD RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PAY FOR ITS IMPLEMENTATION. LASTLY, IT IS UNCLEAR WHAT FUTURE ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN TO FURTHER REDUCE EMISSIONS. AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS LAST WEEKEND, CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD VOTED TO CHANGE THE LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARDS WHICH WILL REPORTEDLY SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE GHD. AT THIS POINT, YOU SHOULD WAIT TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND THAT WOULD BE PRACTICAL OR IMPRACTICAL TO IMPOSE THESE THINGS AT THIS TIME. WE ASK YOU TO ADOPT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 1 AND REMOVE THOSE TWO ITEMS AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANKS. >> ANTHONY DANG, FOLLOWED BY JUSTINE MURRAY. >> HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ANTHONY DANG, I'M A POLICY ADVOCATE WITH CLIMATE ACTION CAMPAIGN. WE ARE EXCITED TO CELEBRATE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IN ADOPTING THEIR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. IN ORDER TO MEANINGFULLY REDUCE POLLUTION, WE URGE YOU TO ADOPT THE CAP UPDATE AS IS, THAT EXCEEDS THE 2045 GHG REDUCTION TARGET BY INCLUDING ALL THE BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION MEASURES. THIS IS OPTION 4. THE ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS PRESENTED REMOVE IMPORTANT STRATEGIES THAT UNDERMINE PUBLIC HEALTH AND CLIMATE SAFE OUTCOMES. HERE'S WHY OPTION 4 IS CRITICAL. CHOOSING THIS OPTION AND KEEPING THE BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION STRATEGIES IS CHOOSING TO PROTECT YOUR FREEDOM TO CLEAN AIR IN YOUR HOMES. ADOPTING THESE REACH CODES WILL INCENTIVIZE NEW CONSTRUCTION TO BE BUILT WITH ELECTRIC APPLIANCES RATHER THAN APPLIANCES THAT EMIT DIRTY METHANE GAS CONTAINING HARMFUL POLLUTANTS THAT ARE DANGEROUS FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE CLIMATE. AIR POLLUTION GENERATED BY BURNING FOSSIL FUELS INDOORS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTS RESIDENTS AND WORKERS' HEALTH LEADING TO SIGNIFICANT HEALTH DISPARITIES BETWEEN THOSE WITH ELECTRIC APPLIANCES AND THOSE WITH GAS APPLIANCES. ADDITIONALLY, KEEPING THESE MEASURES IN THE CAP IS CRITICAL FOR IMPLEMENTATION FLEXIBILITY. IF OTHER MEASURES STALL FOR WHATEVER REASON, NOT HAVING ENOUGH STRATEGIES TO IMPLEMENT WILL PUT YOU AT RISK OF NOT REACHING YOUR GHG REDUCTION GOALS. IN ADDITION TO ADOPTING THE CAP UPDATE AS IT IS, WE HOPE TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR OF THE CAP. BUT THE CITY'S OWN PROJECTIONS, TRANSPORTATION POLLUTING EMISSIONS WILL BE GREATER THAN ANY OTHER TYPE OF EMISSIONS BY THE YEAR 2045. THIS CAP UPDATE CAN SLASH THOSE EMISSIONS BY INVESTING IN SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS. THIS IS ONE COMPONENT DISPERSE STREET SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHILE REDUCING AIR POLLUTION, GHG EMISSIONS, AND VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED. BUILDING SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL ALSO HOLISTICALLY ADDRESSES FRUSTRATING SCHOOL PICKUP, DROP OFF CHALLENGES, BY INVOLVING COMMUNITY DIALOGUE TO BETTER PLAN, SAFE TRANSPORTATION AROUND SCHOOL SITES. MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE WANT TO SEE THE CAP DATE OR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. EMPHASIZE ENGINEERING AND REDESIGNING STREETS WITH SAFE INFRASTRUCTURE IN MIND. SIDEWALKS ARE NOT ENOUGH. WE NEED TO SEE MORE TRAFFIC CALMING STRATEGIES SUCH AS SPEED TABLES AND FLASHING BEACONS FOR MID BLOCK CROSSINGS. PAINT FOR BIKE LANES IS NOT ENOUGH, WE NEED PROTECTED BIKE LANES. FINALLY, REDUCTION OF SPEED IS A MISSING TOOL IN THE CAP, WHICH STATE ASSEMBLY BILL 43 SUPPORTS. WITH THAT ALL SAID, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE CHOOSING OPTION 4 AGAIN. THANK YOU. >> JUSTINE MURRAY. [02:00:03] >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JUSTINE MURRAY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS FOR THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE REPRESENT OVER 2,200 MEMBER BUSINESSES AND OVER 300,000 JOBS ACROSS THE SAN DIEGO REGION INCLUDING MEMBERS, EMPLOYEES, AND RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. OUR MISSION IS TO MAKE THE SAN DIEGO BIN NATIONAL REGION THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK. I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING CARLSBAD'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TEAM FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED DRAFT WITH BUSINESS STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THE CHAMBER OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. WE AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S VOTE TO SUPPORT OPTION 1 LAST MONTH AND URGE YOU TO DO THE SAME THIS EVENING. CHAMBER AND OUR PARTNERS, SOME OF WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND WHO ARE ALSO PART OF A COALITION LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO EARLIER TODAY. WE'RE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF OPTION 1, THE ADOPTION OF THE DRAFT CAP EXCLUDING REACH CODES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL WITH A FEW CAVEATS. PREVENTING A COSTLY AND INFEASIBLE REACH CODE FOR BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION IS OUR NUMBER 1 PRIORITY AT THE CHAMBER, BUT SOME LANGUAGE THAN THE DRAFT IS STILL CONCERNING. CURRENTLY DRAFTED, EVEN WITH CONSIDERATION FOR OPTION 1, THE DRAFT WOULD INCLUDE THE REQUIREMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT TO BE FULLY ELECTRIC WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE FOR MUCH OF THE EQUIPMENT NEEDED TO SIMPLY BUILD HOUSING TO BUILD COMMERCIAL SPACES. AS YOU HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUE MELANIE AT THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, MUCH OF THIS DOES NOT EVEN EXIST IN THE MARKET TO PURCHASE. WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE EXPANSION OF TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT OR TMD WHICH WILL BOTH HARM BUSINESSES, ECONOMIC VITALITY IN CARLSBAD AND WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT EMPLOYEES WHO TRAVEL TO AND FROM THIS CITY FOR THEIR CAREERS. ADOPTION 1 WITH THESE CHANGES, ACHIEVES YOUR 2035 GOALS AND KEEPS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD ON TRACK FOR THE 2045 TARGETS. CARLSBAD CONTINUES TO LEAD IN GHG EMISSIONS WITH AN ALREADY PROGRESSIVE CAP. YOU HEARD EARLIER ABOUT LEADING THE WAY IN CLEAN ENERGY. YOU ARE ALREADY DOING THAT WITH YOUR CURRENT PLAN AS ADOPTED, BUT ANY CLIMATE PLAN IN THE SAN DIEGO REGION IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS TO TAKE IN THE ECONOMIC REALITIES OF WHAT WE ARE FACING. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS PUT FORWARD IS FEASIBLE AND BALANCES THE REAL ECONOMIC NEEDS OF BUSINESSES, EMPLOYEES, RESIDENTS ALIKE. IT'S A PRIORITY OF THE CHAMBER TO SUPPORT THESE CLIMATE POLICIES THAT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ECONOMIC REALITIES OF OUR REGION. THESE PLANS HAVE TO BALANCE COSTS AND IMPACTS OF PROPOSED POLICIES ON THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS ALIKE. YOU'VE HEARD FROM OUR COALITION ABOUT A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN DONE FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN A FULL SCOPE. WE ASK THAT YOU ADOPT OPTION 1 WITH OUR SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS TONIGHT. THIS APPROACH WILL ALSO MITIGATE POTENTIAL LEGAL RISK FROM IMPLEMENTING A REACH CODE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION, AND AS ALWAYS, THE CHAMBER IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS OUR CONCERNS WITH STAFF OR COUNCIL MEMBERS IN MORE DETAIL. >> THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND RECONVENE HERE AT 7:15. >> MAYOR, DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY BEFORE YOU? >> SORRY, I FORGOT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. GOING BACK TO ORDER. QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? MISS ACOSTA. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND I MAY HAVE MORE AFTER FURTHER CONVERSATION BY AND WITH MY COLLEAGUES. I GUESS MY FIRST ONE IS, WITH REGARD TO THE REACH CODES AND THE IDEA OF AN ANALYSIS OF COST, COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, CAN WE GO OVER AGAIN HOW THERE IS A CEC REQUIREMENT FOR COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, OR WHAT THE PROCESS IS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT IN THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IS? BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, ONE WOULD BE REQUIRED ALONG THE WAY. >> YES. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. LOOKING AT MY NOTES FROM WHEN I WAS COVERING THAT IN THE PRESENTATION, PRIOR TO PROVIDING APPROVAL OF A REACH CODE OF ANY SHAPE OR SIZE, THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION REQUIRES THAT LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, DEMONSTRATE THAT A REACH CODE SAVES MORE ENERGY THAN CURRENT STATEWIDE ENERGY STANDARDS AND IS COST EFFECTIVE. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID WITH OUR 2019, REACH CODE UPDATE AND WOULD HAVE TO DO AGAIN IF WE WERE DOING ANOTHER ONE. >> IF WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING HAVING THE REACH CODES AS PART OF THE CAP UPDATE, WHAT IF DOWN THE LINE, THE CEC DIDN'T APPROVE IT OR WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVE THAT IT WAS COST EFFECTIVE, WHEN WOULD THAT HAPPEN? WHAT'S OUR TIMELINE? >> IF I COULD ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO DO A REACH CODE UPDATE ENTIRELY? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? [02:05:02] >> I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE, SO IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT WITH THAT IN THERE, WHEN WOULD WE FIND OUT AND WOULD WE JUST PULL IT OUT OR WHAT IF IT DIDN'T MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE? >> GOT IT. I WILL START BY TRYING TO ANSWER THIS. THE COST EFFECTIVENESS ANALYSIS WOULD BE DONE AS PART OF PREPARING THE REACH CODE UPDATE ITSELF. SIMILAR TO THE 2019 REACH CODE UPDATES, WE WOULD BE DOING STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH RELATED TO WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE UPDATES. PART OF THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE INFORMATION IN THE COST EFFECTIVENESS ANALYSIS AS THAT WOULD IMPLICATE WHAT COULD AND COULDN'T BE INCLUDED IN THE REACH CODE. IF A COST EFFECTIVENESS ANALYSIS CAME BACK AND SAID, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS COST EFFECTIVE, THEN THAT WOULD CERTAINLY IMPACT WHAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR REACH CODE IN THAT WE COULDN'T INCLUDE IT. >> GREAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE STICKING POINTS AND WAYS TO WORK AROUND THEM IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD. BUT MAYBE PULL BACK AT A CERTAIN TIME IF IT DIDN'T PENCIL OUT. AS FOR THE CARPORT SOLAR OVER CARPORTS, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IN HERE WAS THAT THE CITY WOULD BEGIN BY IDENTIFYING ITS OWN ELIGIBLE PARKING LOTS AND TAKE THE LEAD. I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYBODY WAS ON BOARD WITH, SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE FOR THE SOLAR CARPORT INSTALLATION, THAT IT WOULD BEGIN WITH CITY FACILITIES AND UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. >> YES. HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. I HAVE A HIDDEN SLIDE ON THIS. I'M LOOKING AT MY HIDDEN SLIDE GUIDE SO I CAN DRIVE TO THAT SIDE. MAGIC. >> SOLAR CARPORTS MEASURE. THE MEASURE LANGUAGE LIKE YOU WERE JUST ASKING ABOUT IS TO CONSTRUCT SOLAR CARPORTS, ALSO KNOWN AS INSTALLING SOLAR PANELS OVER OUTDOOR PARKING SPACES AT CITY OWNED PARKING LOTS. SO STRICTLY CITY FACILITIES. THIS HAS A MEDIUM TERM IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE, SO 6-10 YEARS, AND THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING HAS A MONITORING BENCHMARK OF BEING COMPLETED BY 2030. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION. WE DIDN'T TALK A TON ABOUT THE SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOL BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT WAS AT ALL CONTROVERSIAL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. COULD WE GO OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO SAVING OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS? >> ABSOLUTELY. I'LL START BEFORE I OPEN MY GIANT BINDER AND SEE IF I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COMPREHENSIVELY. BUT YES, OUR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL MEASURE IS AN EXISTING MEASURE IN OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLANNED UPDATE. THIS IS THE EXISTING PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE AT THE CITY. THERE ARE THREE, THIS IS WHY I SHOULD HAVE OPENED MY BINDER TO BEGIN WITH, SITES THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE PROGRAM AT HERE IN THE CITY AND ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND TO OTHER SCHOOL SITES. BUT THROUGH IMPLEMENTING THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PLANS, FOR EXAMPLE, THINGS LIKE ENCOURAGING STUDENTS TO WALK, BIKE OR I'VE HEARD ROLL TO SCHOOL ON A SKATEBOARD OR OTHER MECHANISMS ENCOURAGE OBVIOUSLY REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IF THEY'RE NOT BEING DRIVEN TO SCHOOL IN A CAR. THAT'S WHAT THOSE PLANS REALLY STRIVE TO HELP WITH AND ALSO INCREASE SAFETY AS WELL. >> GREAT. T HANK YOU. I HAVE A BIG PICTURE QUESTION THAT CAME OUT OF A LOT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS IN THE PACKET AND IT WAS MORE ABOUT HOW WE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC TO HAVE A CULTURAL CHANGE AROUND ADOPTING THESE PRACTICES AS PART OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY THAT WE VALUE. WE KNOW IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY VISION, WE VALUE SUSTAINABILITY. COULD YOU ELABORATE FURTHER ON EDUCATIONAL AND THAT DASHBOARD THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOP QUESTIONS THAT I GET AS STAFF IS, WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP? WE DID UPDATE OUR WEBSITE TO INCLUDE A PAGE THAT TALKS JUST ABOUT THAT. RANGING FROM NO COST TO LOW MEDIUM COST, HIGHER COST OPTIONS. WE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT REBATES AND INCENTIVES ON OUR WEBSITE. BUT LIKE YOU WERE SAYING IN YOUR QUESTION WITH THE DASHBOARD, THE HOPE IS TO MAKE THAT EVEN MORE TRANSPARENT AND EASY TO FIND SO THAT IF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN TAKING A LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, NOT ONLY CAN THEY SEE MEASURE STATUS, BUT THEY COULD ALSO SEE TIPS AND TRICKS OF WHAT THEY CAN DO AT HOME OR IN THEIR DAY TO DAY LIFE. [02:10:04] YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT PROBABLY IN EVERY SINGLE MEASURE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S EVERY SINGLE ONE, BUT THERE IS A SUPPORTING ACTION THAT SAYS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF CONDUCT PUBLIC OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUSLY SUCH A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THE PLAN. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. FOR THE ELIMINATION OF THE GAS POWERED LEAF BLOWERS, DID WE LOOK AT OTHER LANDSCAPING EQUIPMENT AS WELL? I KNOW THAT THERE'S STATE LEGISLATION ON THAT AND ALSO THAT WAS IN OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE LOOKED AT OTHER THINGS BESIDES LEAF BLOWERS. >> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE DID JUST LOOK AT LEAF BLOWERS SPECIFICALLY, NOT OTHER LANDSCAPE EQUIPMENT. >> OKAY. BECAUSE I WOULD BE A FAN OF ALL LANDSCAPING EQUIPMENT. THANK YOU. ON THE TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT, I KNOW IT GETS CONFUSING AND THERE'S FORMULAS AND THERE'S STILL INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO PLAY OUT IN THAT. BUT AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE CARPORT, EVERYTHING STARTS WITH THE CITY. THE CITY IS THE LEADER RIGHT ON THAT BECAUSE I SAW SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT SAID THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO UP ITS OWN TDM PLANS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> LET ME JUST CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION ABOUT GOING HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING RIGHT NOW. >> THAT WE NEED TO BE A LEADER AND A CHAMPION AND A ROLE MODEL FOR THE COMMUNITY IN HAVING OUR OWN TDM PLANS THAT ARE STRONG. >> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, JEFF MURPHY, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. THE CITY HAS A TRANSIT DEMAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE IN PLACE TODAY AND IT DOES HAVE IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS FOR WHAT PROJECTS REQUIRE WHAT LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENTS TO COMPLY WITH THAT ORDINANCE. WHAT IS IN THE CAP IS A PROPOSAL TO ASSESS OR EVALUATE THE CURRENT TDM TO SEE IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE ITS EFFECTIVENESS TO REQUIRE MORE OF PROJECTS. SO WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT IS A COUPLE TWOFOLD. ONE IS THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A MORE AGGRESSIVE, A TDM ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, AND THE OTHER ARGUMENT IS TO RE-EVALUATE OUR CURRENT TDM AND LOOK AT LOWERING THE THRESHOLD BECAUSE THE THRESHOLD IS CAUSING SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PREVENTING APPLICANTS FROM MOVING FORWARD WITH PROPOSED PROJECTS. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THRESHOLDS IS $1 MILLION THRESHOLD FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, TENANT IMPROVEMENTS. TO GET THAT THRESHOLD IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH NOWADAYS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TAKING AN OFFICE BUILDING, YOU CONVERT IT INTO AN R&D OR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. YOU TRIP THAT MILLION DOLLAR THRESHOLD PRETTY QUICKLY. THE TDM TODAY, IT REQUIRES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PRETTY EXPENSIVE MEASURES TO BE PUT IN PLACE. FOR EXAMPLE, SOLAR ON THE ROOF. WHAT WE HEAR FROM DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY GET HIT WITH THAT IS THAT SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE SO OLD THAT THE ROOF CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THE WEIGHT OF A SOLAR PANELS AND SO WHAT THEY ENDED UP DOING, COSTING OUT THE COST OF THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS PLUS THE COST TO RETROFIT THE BUILDING CAUSES THEM TO EXCEED THEIR BUDGET, AND THEN THEREFORE THEY AVOID DOING THE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE AS TO THE CONCERNS THEY HAVE WITH THE CURRENT TDM. >> OKAY. IS THERE A YEAR CUTOFF THAT WOULD RELATE TO THEIR ROOFS NOT BEING STURDY ENOUGH TO INSTALL SOLAR? >> NO, THERE'S NO TIME PERIOD OR THRESHOLD TO STOP. >> YEAH. I'M ALSO WONDERING IF THE PEOPLE OPPOSED TO THIS ARE SAYING THAT THEIR BUILDING SHOULD BE EXEMPT BECAUSE IT'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS OLD. >> THAT WOULD BE PART OF THEIR REQUEST TO EVALUATE THE EXISTING TDM AND SEE IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO LOWER THE THRESHOLD. SO IT ACCOUNTS FOR THESE OLDER BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE REQUIREMENTS. >> I JUST KNOW ON RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS LIKE MY OWN HOME BUILT IN THE '70S AND ALL OVER MY NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S NOT BEEN A PROBLEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MISS LUNA? >> KATY, JUST REAL QUICKLY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS ARE DOING WITH RESPECT TO THEIR CAPS AND WHAT OPTIONS THEY'RE EXERCISING OR WHAT REQUIREMENTS? >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I DO, INDEED. LET ME CONSULT MY HANDY DANDY GUIDE SO WE CAN DRIVE TO THAT SPECIFIC SLIDE. WOW. LOOK AT THAT. HERE'S A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT OTHER CITIES IN OUR REGION ARE DOING AS IT RELATES TO THEIR CLIMATE ACTION PLANS. THE ONES THAT I HAVE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE ARE JURISDICTIONS THAT [02:15:03] HAVE ADOPTED OR ARE UPDATING THEIR CLIMATE ACTION PLANS, REALLY AFTER THAT ASSEMBLY BILL 1279 REQUIREMENT, SO YOU WON'T SEE EVERYBODY ON THIS LIST. THAT'S BECAUSE THEIR CLIMATE ACTION PLANS ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER. STARTING WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, THEY ADOPTED THEIR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE IN AUGUST OF 2022. THEY HAVE A NET ZERO BY 2035 TARGET. THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO ADOPTED THEIR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UP DATE IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. SIMILAR TO WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT, THEY HAVE AN 85% BY 2045 TARGET. THEY ALSO HAVE AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL, THOSE ARE MY AIR QUOTES ADDED, OF NET ZERO BY 2045, BUT AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS LOOKED AT, IT WAS THE 85% BY 2045 TARGET. CITY OF SOLANA BEACH, THEY ADOPTED THEIR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. AGAIN, THAT 85% BY 2045 TARGET. THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF JURISDICTIONS WHO ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THEIR PLANS. THE CITY OF LA MESA, THEIR DRAFT IS POSTED ON THEIR WEBSITE. THEY'RE HOPING TO ADOPT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH JUST COMING IN RIGHT BEHIND US. AGAIN, 85% BY 2045. ENCINITAS HAS THEIR DRAFT MEASURES OUT, AGAIN, 85% BY 2045. THEN CITY OF CHULA VISTA, THEY HAVE THEIR MEASURED DEVELOPMENT AND OUTREACH UNDERWAY AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT A NET ZERO BY 2045 TARGET. WE'RE THE MAJORITY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. BOB PATEL. >> SURE. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU TO ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN DEFINITELY HAVE COMMENTS AS WELL, SO BEAR WITH ME AS I GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE. I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH ASKING, IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, WE WOULD MEET OUR GOALS? >> YES, THAT IS CORRECT. >> GREAT. THEN YOU ANSWERED THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS QUESTION THAT I ALSO HAD. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WITH REGARDS TO THE UPDATE IS WE CAN FINE TUNE AT ANY POINT. I MEAN, AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND AS THIS IS REVISITED, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO FINE TUNE AS WE RECEIVE MORE UPDATES OR AS WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK. >> YES, THAT IS CORRECT. LIKE I HIGHLIGHTED IN MY PRESENTATION ON THE NEXT STEP SLIDE, WE'LL BE CONTINUING OUR ANNUAL REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND IN THOSE REPORTS WE TYPICALLY COVER IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE LAST YEAR, THE MOST RECENT GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS DATA THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, PROGRESS TOWARDS ACHIEVING OUR EMISSIONS REDUCTION TARGETS. BUT THOSE REPORTS ARE ALSO A REALLY GOOD TIME. TECHNOLOGIES AND MARKETS CHANGE, MORE DATA BECOMES AVAILABLE. THAT WAS A THEME IN OUR PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHY THOSE REPORTS ARE A GOOD TOUCHSTONE. WE'RE TRACKING PROGRESS. WE'RE IDENTIFYING THINGS THAT MAY NEED TO BE IMPROVED OR ADJUSTED OR REMOVED. >> GREAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THIS DOVETAILS RIGHT INTO THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD, WHICH WAS AROUND TYPES OF DATA WE'D BE CAPTURING. OBVIOUSLY, WE'D BE TRACKING, MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'VE PUT TOGETHER IS REALLY MEETING THE TARGETS AND THAT THERE'S EFFICACY WITH WHATEVER WE END UP MOVING FORWARD WITH. >> YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. ABSOLUTELY AND THAT'S WHY THE MEASURES IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN INCLUDE UNDER EACH MEASURE, SORRY, THE DATA NEEDED TO MONITOR. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE SOURCES LISTED THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE, THEY EXIST, AND SO THE PUBLIC OR PEOPLE READING THE PLAN ARE AWARE OF THE TYPES OF DATA THAT WE WILL BE USING TO REPORT ON IMPLEMENTATION. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. A QUESTION WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOMEBODY OR, WELL, A COMMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO ASK IT AS A QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC WHERE THEY ASKED IF WE DON'T ADOPT THE REACH CODES THERE WOULD BE A DELAY IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. IS THAT ACCURATE? >> HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE CONTEXT. IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE THE DELAY OF STAFF UPDATING THE PLAN TO REMOVE ANY REFERENCES TO THAT MEASURE WOULD BE CLEAN UP MOSTLY. >> COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? >> YES, I BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON THIS ON MY NEXT STEPS SLIDE, BUT IF CITY COUNCIL SELECTS ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT [02:20:01] EXCLUDE ANY OF THE MEASURES THAT ARE LISTED IN THE PUBLIC DRAFT, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE REVISIONS TO THE DOCUMENT. THERE'S A LOT OF TABLES AND A LOT OF NUMBERS IN THERE, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MATH IS MATHING AND JUST CLEAN THINGS UP. THAT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, IT DOESN'T TAKE VERY MUCH TIME, BUT IT IS TIME. >> THANK YOU. WE'VE HEARD SUPPORT FOR TWO SEPARATE OPTIONS. I KNOW THAT THAT'S THE GENERAL FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED VIA EMAIL, THE FEEDBACK WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE PERCENTAGE DIFFERENCE IS IN TERMS OF REDUCTIONS IN OPTION 1 AND OPTION 4 THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. WOULDN'T YOU KNOW IT, I HAVE A SLIDE. I DO, I REALLY DO. THAT'S NOT PERCENTAGE, BUT MAN. I DO HAVE A INFO ON THE PERCENTAGES THOUGH. I'LL KEEP THIS SLIDE UP BECAUSE IT'S STILL INTERESTING, I THINK. FLIP THROUGH ALL MY PAPERS. OPTION 1 IS REMOVING THOSE THREE MEASURES. THERE IS A LOT OF PAPER ON THIS DESK. IT IS HERE. SORRY, BEAR WITH ME. OPTION 1 IS MEETING OUR REDUCTION TARGET EXACTLY. YES. OPTION 2 IS EXCEEDING THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 200 METRIC TONS OR 0.02% AND THAT'S A PERCENTAGE OF OUR TOTAL REDUCTIONS FOR 2045. CITY MEASURES, FEDERAL AND STATE MEASURES, ALL OF IT, 0.02%. THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE WITH THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHAT THOSE METRIC TONS MEAN, A LITTLE MORE LAY PERSON. FOR OPTION 3, WE'RE EXCEEDING THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 4,000 METRIC TONS. THAT'S ABOUT 0.45%. THEN OPTION 4, THAT WOULD BE ADOPTING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE AS WRITTEN. THAT MEANS WE ARE EXCEEDING THE 2045 REDUCTION TARGET BY APPROXIMATELY 6,000 METRIC TONS, THAT IS 0.68%. THANK YOU. >> YEAH. >> AND THEN A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS HERE ON, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY WHAT NUMBER QUESTION I WAS ON, BUT YOU ALL DON'T KNOW THAT. WITH THE SOLAR CAR PORTS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WAS PACKAGED INITIALLY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER EXCLUSIONS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS ASKED THAT QUESTION BY A FEW FOLKS, WHY WAS THAT INCLUDED? HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, IT SOUNDS LIKE POTENTIALLY ON BOTH ENDS OF THE ISSUE. FOLKS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ALLOWING FOR SOLAR CAR PORTS AT CITY FACILITIES TO MOVE FORWARD. SO I JUST WANTED TO HEAR WHAT THE RATIONALE WAS INITIALLY. >> YEAH. HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. OPTION 1 GOES BACK TO WHAT WE PRESENTED TO COUNSEL LAST FALL. SO THAT'S WHY THOSE THREE MEASURES WERE TAKEN OUT. THAT'S REALLY THAT WAS THE LOGIC. YEAH. >> THANK YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, I KNOW I JUST BE CURIOUS AND MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER SO YOU CAN LET ME KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE, BUT HAVE WE EVER BEEN AT RISK FOR NOT MEETING OUR GHG REDUCTION GOALS? >> I THINK I CAN ANSWER SOME OF THAT. I HAVEN'T BEEN AT THE CITY FOR THE ENTIRE LIFE OF OUR CURRENT ADOPTED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE ANNUAL REPORTING DATA FOR THAT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN HAD US EXCEEDING OUR 2020 TARGET. WE EXCEEDED THAT, I THINK WITH OUR 2018 INVENTORY. AND AS FAR AS THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY TARGET WE'VE HAD SO FAR BECAUSE THE OTHER TARGET IN THAT PLAN IS 2025. YES, I GUESS. >> THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE COMMENTS AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED YOU ABOUT IN ANTICIPATION FOR THIS IS LA COSTA CANYON HIGH SCHOOL HAS IMPLEMENTED CAR PORTS WITH SOLAR ON TOP OF THEM. [02:25:04] I WANT TO SAY THEY'VE HAD IT FOR PROBABLY EIGHT OR 10 YEARS. I DID ASK YOU TO CHECK WITH THEM AND FIND OUT IF THAT'S BEEN A SUCCESS. WAS IT WORTH IT? WAS IT NOT WORTH IT? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION. YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT I HAVE A SLIDE, BECAUSE OF COURSE, I DO. >> BECAUSE I ASKED FOR IT IN ADVANCE. >> YES, THAT TOO. HERE IS A LOVELY INFOGRAPHIC THAT WE GOT FROM CARLSBAD UNIFIED, LOOKING AT THEIR SOLAR AND BATTERY SAVINGS AND USAGE PERFORMANCE. SO BROKEN DOWN BY SCHOOL SITE ON THE FAR LEFT. THEY HAVE THEIR BASELINE AND THEN CURRENT ENERGY USED PLUS THEIR BASELINE AND CURRENT COSTS. THEN ON THE FAR RIGHT, THEY HAVE THEIR SAVINGS. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE MUCH LARGER NUMBERS THAT THEY ARE SEEING SAVINGS. >> SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A ULTRA SUCCESS. >> SEEMS LIKE IT. >> DID THEY INDICATE WHETHER THEY HAVE CHARGING STATIONS AS PART OF THIS? >> OH, THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. >> I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. >> WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELECTRIC CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEEN A TOPIC OF CONCERN WITH THE DEVELOPERS, THIS IS GOING TO BE MANDATED BY THE STATE, IS THAT ACCURATE? EVENTUALLY? >> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME I WAS WRITING DOWN YOUR LAST QUESTION. >> CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. >> CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, ISN'T GOING TO BE MANDATED BY THE STATE. I WOULD START BY SAYING, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. I DO HAVE A SLIDE OF COURSE ABOUT THIS MEASURE. I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT TO EXCLUSIVELY USE ELECTRIC POWERED EQUIPMENT OR 100% EQUIPMENT AND THAT DID COME UP IN SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. IT IS TO REDUCE 50% OF EMISSIONS FROM CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. AND THIS HAS AN IMPLEMENTATION DATE OF 2045, SO IT'S ONE OF OUR LONG TERM MEASURES. >> IF WE LEAVE THAT IN THE CAP, IT DOESN'T APPLY UNTIL 2045. >> WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THIS MEASURE UNTIL 2045. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO, BUT DOES THAT MEAN WE MIGHT? >> SO IT IS INCLUDED IN OUR PLAN AND IT IS ONE OF THE MEASURES THAT IS HELPING US TO MEET OUR REDUCTION TARGETS, BUT WE WOULD NOT BE PLANNING TO IMPLEMENT THIS MEASURE UNTIL 2045. >> HERE IF I COULD. I'M JAMIE WOOD, I'M THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR. THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE THAT IF COUNSEL DIRECTED US TO DO IT PRIOR TO THAT, WE COULD, BUT IT WOULD BE ON SCHEDULE FOR MUCH LATER IN THE CAP TO BEGIN THAT IMPLEMENTATION. IF WE WERE GOING TO WRITE THOSE ORDINANCES, WE WOULD HAVE TO START BEFORE 2045 TO GET THEM IN PLACE BY THEN. BUT THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE IN THE LONG TERM OF THE IMPLEMENTATION. >> AND THEN ALSO JUST TO EXPAND ON YOUR QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THE STATE WAS ALSO LOOKING AT, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE STATE IS LOOKING AT ELECTRIC VEHICLE OR IN YOUR CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. THE STATUS OF THAT OR THEIR TIMELINE, WE DO NOT KNOW. SO WE DO NOT KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND MANDATE STATEWIDE YET. BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT AS A REQUIREMENT. >> SO WE'RE CAUSING CONCERN TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WITH THIS. BUT WE MAY NOT IMPLEMENT IT UNTIL 2045, IT'S NOT REQUIRED AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT. IT CAN ALWAYS BE PUT IN LATER IF THE STATE MANDATES IT, IS THAT ACCURATE? >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. AND SIMILAR TO SOME OF MY ANSWERS PREVIOUSLY, THIS WOULD BE THE TYPE OF THING THAT WOULD BE COMING UP IN THESE ANNUAL REPORTS, ANY NEW LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BE IMPACTING IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR MEASURES IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. >> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMMENTS WAS BROUGHT UP WAS BI DIRECTIONAL EV, IS THAT PART OF OUR CAP AND DO WE EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY AS A CITY TO TALK ABOUT BIDIRECTIONAL? I UNDERSTAND IT'S ONLY ONE WAY FOR CARS. PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND. I HAVE SOLAR ON MY HOUSE AND I HAVE A BATTERY AND THAT BATTERY STORES THE ELECTRICITY AND I CAN USE THAT TO POWER MY HOUSE. BUT IF I HAVE A TESLA WITH A BATTERY, I CAN'T USE THE TESLA TO POWER MY HOUSE. AM I ON THE RIGHT TRACK, AM I ACCURATE? >> I CAN START BY ANSWERING WHETHER OR NOT IT IS IN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN UPDATE. SO THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WAS REFERENCING MEASURE T8, WHICH IS THE MEASURE THAT LOOKS AT ZERO EMISSION CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. BI DIRECTIONAL CHARGING IS NOT CALLED OUT EXPLICITLY IN THAT MEASURE, [02:30:04] SO THAT WOULD BE A NO ON IT BEING INCLUDED WITHIN THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. BUT AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE THINGS AS WE'RE REPORTING ANNUALLY AND TECHNOLOGIES CHANGE, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD IN AT A LATER POINT IN TIME. >> WE'VE GOT COMMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPER COMMUNITY IT SAYS, A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO COST MORE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF HOMES. AND THEN WE HAD PEOPLE FROM THE OTHER SIDE SAY IT'S A COST SAVINGS. HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THE CAP AFFECTS THE COST OF BUILDING A HOME. THE REASON I ASKED THAT IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I HEAR MORE AND MORE IS IT'S HARD TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN CALIFORNIA AND I DON'T WANT TO ADD MORE EXPENSE TO THE COST OF A HOME. HELP ME UNDERSTAND, DOES THIS CAUSE THE DEVELOPERS TO HAVE TO SPEND MORE TO DEVELOP? >> I'LL START. YEAH. WE'RE ALL REACHING. SO I REPEAT AN ANSWER AND HOPEFULLY GET CLOSE TO WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO HAVE ANSWERED. BUT THE COST EFFECTIVENESS OF AN UPDATED BUILDING CODE. THAT ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED BY THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION BEFORE ANY REACH CODE DATE IS APPROVED. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO AS PART OF UPDATING OUR REACH CODE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE CODE SAVES MORE ENERGY THAN THE CURRENT STANDARDS AND IS COST EFFECTIVE. NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER. >> SO JUST TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU'RE PROBABLY HEARING FROM THE INDUSTRY IS WITH REGARDS TO THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. WHAT THEY'RE ASKING IS THAT COST BENEFIT BE DONE NOW BEFORE YOU COMMIT THE CITY TO DOING THE REACH CODE. THAT WAY YOU KNOW OR COUNCIL FULLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE COST IS, WHAT THE BENEFIT IS, AND THOSE TWO BEFORE COMMITTING TO DIRECTING STAFF TO DEVELOP THE REACH CODE. IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO INCLUDE THE REACH CODE IN THE CAP, WE STILL HAVE TO DO THAT ANALYSIS AND WE WILL STILL BRING THAT FORWARD. AT THAT TIME, IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TO COST PROHIBITIVE AND IT'S DECIDED NOT TO IMPLEMENT THE REACH CODE. THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT STAFF AND COUNSEL WILL HAVE TO FIND A REPLACEMENT IN THE CAP TO REPLACE THAT MEASURE UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER MEASURES IN PLACE THAT WILL KEEP US ON TRACK TO HITTING THE 2045 TARGET. SO THAT'S REALLY THE DIFFERENCE WHAT YOU'RE HEARING AS TO WHEN YOU DO THAT COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. SHOULD BE DONE AS PART OF THE CAP ADOPTION OR WAIT UNTIL WHEN IT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE DONE, WHICH IS WHEN COUNSEL ADOPTS THE REACH CODE. >> YEAH. GO AHEAD. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, THE REACH CODE IS ABOVE AND BEYOND MEETING OUR TARGET. SO THAT'S NOT TRUE. WE WOULDN'T NEED TO FIND A REPLACEMENT, RIGHT? >> AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON THE STATUS AND HOW THE OTHER MEASURES ARE MEASURING UP. IF WE FIND THAT THE OTHER MEASURES DON'T QUALIFY AND THIS IS NECESSARY, THEN YES, YOU WILL HAVE TO FIND A REPLACEMENT. IF AT THE TIME WE IDENTIFIED THAT THIS IS STILL GOING TO BE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHEN WE BRING FORWARD THE REACH CODE, THEN YOU'RE CORRECT. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO FIND A REPLACEMENT. IT'S ONLY AS WE WERE NOT ON TARGET TO GET TO THE 2045 MEMBER. >> IF WE APPROVED THE BARE MINIMUM, AND THEY DIDN'T WORK OUT. WE DIDN'T REACH OUR TARGET. WE HAVE TO ADD A LOT MORE THINGS THAT TO REACH THAT. >>AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD BRING IF OPTION 1 WAS SELECTED AND DURING THE ANNUAL REPORTING, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO HIT OUR 2045 TARGET. WE WOULD SEE BY HOW MUCH AND THEN LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT MEASURES, ONE OF WHICH WOULD BE THE REACH CODE AND SAYING, SHOULD WE IMPLEMENT THAT NOW? >> WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING JUST THE OPPOSITE WAY. THANK YOU. >> MY LAST QUESTION IS, YOU'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED IT, BUT I WANT A LITTLE BIT BETTER DESCRIPTION ABOUT IF A DEVELOPER DOES TIS THAT EXCEED A MILLION DOLLARS IT TRIGGERS SOME CAP REQUIREMENTS. IF WE ELIMINATED THAT OR TOOK THAT OUT OF OUR CAP, WOULD THAT BE A BIG DEAL OR IS IT VERY MINOR? >> IT COULD BE. WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND ASSESS IF WE WERE TO ELIMINATE OR REDUCE THE THRESHOLD OR REDUCE THE REQUIREMENTS, [02:35:04] WE WOULD HAVE TO ASSESS ON HOW MUCH OF A REDUCTION OR HOW MUCH LESS OF A REDUCTION IN GHG THE REVISIONS WOULD CREATE AND AS A RESULT, WOULD WE'D STILL HIT OUR 2045 TARGET. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BALANCE BETWEEN THAT IF THE COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO RE EVALUATE OUR CURRENT TDM ORDINANCE. >> WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN CARLSBAD AS BEING VERY PRO BUSINESS. AND THIS SOUNDS CONTRARY TO THAT, THAT THAT WOULD POSSIBLY HINDER SOME ADVANCEMENT IN SOME BUSINESS. WOULD IT BE REASONABLE WHEN WE FINALLY MAKE OUR MOTION THAT I SAID THAT PART OF THE MOTION WOULD BE THAT IT GET RE EVALUATED OR THAT THAT THRESHOLD BE A SLIDING SCALE? WHAT BE THE PROPER WAY TO HANDLE THAT? >> SO THERE'S TWO THINGS. ONE IS THE CAP DOES INCLUDE A MEASURE IN THERE THAT LOOKS AT EVALUATING TO ACTUALLY STRENGTHEN THE TDM ORDINANCE. SO I HAVE TO DEFER TO KATIE AS TO WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IF YOU IF THE COUNCIL WAS TO ELIMINATE THAT PARTICULAR MEASURE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HIT THE 25 TARGET. SEPARATE FROM THAT WOULD BE A MINUTE MOTION TO REEVALUATE THE EXISTING TDM ORDINANCE TO SEE IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES OR ROOMS TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS THAT DOES NOT JEOPARDIZE OUR ABILITY TO HIT OUR 2045 TARGET TODAY AS IT IS TODAY. >> BY THE WAY IT STANDS, THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY A BUSINESS WOULD NOT EXPAND OR IMPROVE AND WE WOULDN'T GET THAT BENEFIT ANYWAY. IS THAT ACCURATE? >> THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE THE ASSESSMENT WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THRESHOLD, IF NO PROJECTS ARE HITTING THAT THRESHOLD, WHAT WERE THE ASSUMPTIONS IN REDUCING THE GHG GASES WHEN WE PUT THAT OR WHEN THE CITY PUT THAT IN PLACE BACK WHEN, I'M SORRY, WHEN THE TDM ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED. SO WE WOULD LOOK AT ALL THE MEASURES AND SEE, WERE THEY BEING SACRIFICED BECAUSE OF COST, AND IF WE WERE TO ELIMINATE THAT PARTICULAR REQUIREMENT, HOW WOULD IT WOULD IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO HIT OUR GOAL? YES, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS. >> SO YOU UNDERSTAND MY CONCERN. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN EVALUATE AND THEN BRING BACK WHEN WE REVISIT THE CAP AND WHAT ARE WE REVISITING IT EVERY YEAR? >> YES, MAYOR. THE CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE IN THIS CAP UPDATE ARE HIGHER THAN THE 6,000 THAT WE'VE GOT LISTED AS A BUFFER. SO IF WE TOOK THAT OUT NOW, WE WOULD NOT MEET OUR TARGETS FOR 2035, 2045. HOWEVER, WE COULD BE IF DIRECTED LOOKING AT THAT AND WE MAY HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER PROGRAM OR SOME OTHER THING TO MAKE UP FOR THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION AT COUNSEL'S DIRECTION TO HAVE US LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS, OTHER PROGRAMS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE OR TO LOOK AT HOW SOMETHING IS WORKING. AND IF THEY'RE WORKING AT A HIGHER MORE GHG REDUCTIONS THAN WE THOUGHT, THEN WE MIGHT NOT NEED THAT. IF THEY'RE LESS, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO MORE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS. I WAS GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO MAKE A COMMENT. WELL, NOW I'M GOING TO LEAD UP TO THE MOTION. MY THOUGHT IS JUST TO STICK WITH PROPOSAL NUMBER 1, BUT TO ADD THE SOLAR CAR PORTS WITH THE BATTERY BACKUP AND CHARGING ON CITY OWNED PROPERTIES, MAINLY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PROVEN ITSELF TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SAY THAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS EVEN BETTER NOW THAN WHEN LA COSTA CANYON DID THAT. THEN I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A TENANT NOT DOING IMPROVEMENTS AND INCREASING THEIR BUSINESS FOR FEAR THAT IT'S GOING TO TRIGGER CAP REQUIREMENTS THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT UNREASONABLE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MOTION INCLUDE THAT THAT BE LOOKED AT CLOSER, THAT WE'RE NOT INTERFERING WITH BUSINESS AND BUSINESS EXPANSION. AND THEN MY FINAL THOUGHT IS THIS ELECTRIC CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, SINCE THAT DOESN'T REALLY EVEN EXIST AT THIS TIME, AT LEAST PLENTIFULLY EXIST AND THE STATE ISN'T REQUIRING IT THAT THAT BE REVISITED, NOT BE IN THE CURRENT CAP, BUT BE REVISITED IN FUTURE UPDATES. THAT'S SOME OF MY THOUGHTS. MISS LUNA. >> I THINK I COULD ENTERTAIN PORTIONS OF YOUR MOTION. THE ONE THAT'S GIVING ME A LITTLE HEARTACHE IS THAT I THINK ON THE TDM THAT IT SHOULD BE INCLUDED [02:40:03] IN THE CAP AND THEN ANALYZED OUTSIDE OF IT BECAUSE IT IS CRITICAL TO THE CAP, AND THEN DO THAT POST HASTE, AND THEN SEE WHAT THE ANALYSIS SAYS, AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS THEN INCLUDE IT. BUT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM YOU, JAMIE, IS THAT IF WE TAKE IT OUT, IT'S GOING TO COMPROMISE OUR CAP. >> CORRECT. WE WOULD NOT MEET OUR GOALS. >> THAT'S MY CONCERN IS I THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE OUTSIDE OF THE CAP IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THAT OPTION. >> MISS BURKHOLDER? >> COMMENTS? >> YES. >> WELL, I THINK THE GOOD NEWS IS WE AREN'T DOING NOTHING AS A CITY. AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, WE WILL MEET OUR GOALS. JUST WROTE A LOT OF THIS DOWN WHILE YOU ALL WERE SPEAKING BECAUSE IT WAS VERY INSPIRING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. OUR GOAL IS OUTLINED, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD THING. I APPRECIATE THE SPEAKER TONIGHT AND IN PARTICULAR, THOSE COMMENTS RELATIVE TO LIFE SCIENCES. I BEGAN TO THINK ABOUT THE INCREDIBLY IMPACTFUL IN A NEGATIVE WAY IF THOSE BUSINESSES LOST POWER, LOSING POTENTIALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, NOT TO MENTION A LACK OF CAPABILITY TO POWER, SOME OF THE UNITS NEEDED TO COMPLETE SOME OF THE LIFESAVING RESEARCH WE DO RIGHT HERE IN CARLSBAD. I THINK THERE WAS VERY LITTLE ACTUAL REPRESENTATION OF MANY OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH LEADS ME TO THE POINT. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ACTION MAYBE WITHIN SMALL BUSINESSES THAT COULD BE THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, SOME TYPE OF NEW COMMISSION OR SOMETHING THAT WILL ALLOW FOR MORE DISCOURSE, I GUESS, RELATIVE, ESPECIALLY TO THE IMPACT ANY OF THESE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE HAVE TO SMALL BUSINESSES. MAYBE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE INPUT ON THAT, AND I'D BE WELCOME TO HEAR THAT. I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR ON THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES. THEY ARE LESS OF A POLLUTANT IN THAT INDUSTRY THAN CREATING CONCRETE AND LAYING THAT DOWN. THAT'S STILL TO BE DETERMINED HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT COST WOULD DEFINITELY BE PASSED ON TO THE CONSUMER SO THAT'S A BIG CONCERN IF WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING. SOMEONE SAYS 7,000 UNITS. I THINK THAT'S COUNTY WIDE. BY 2045 HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A FEW OURSELVES, BUT BY THAT TIME, EVEN PROJECTIONS ARE SAYING OUR POPULATION IS GOING TO BE GOING DOWN. ANYWAY, WE'LL LISTEN TO THAT LATER ON. I THINK GIVEN ALL OF THOSE THOUGHTS, I WOULD SUPPORT OPTION 1 AND ENTERTAIN THE MAYOR'S DESIRE FOR THAT ADDITION WITH THE TDM, AND IF THERE'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT, I'D WELCOME THAT TOO. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO SECOND YOUR MOTION? >> MISS ACOSTA. >> THANK YOU. THANKS AGAIN TO STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANKS TO THE COMMUNITY, ALL WHO ARE HERE TODAY AND THOSE WHO EMAILED AND CALLED AND HAD MEETINGS WITH US. I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ALMOST EVERY DAY FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY IS A VALUE OF MINE AND SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HERE AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL. A LOT OF PEOPLE CONTACT ME TO TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THEM WITH RESIDENTS. TODAY IN HEARING THE CONVERSATION, I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT IT IS A TOP VALUE OF OUR CITY AND OF OUR RESIDENTS. ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY HAS TO BE SOMETHING WE ARE ROBUSTLY AND AGGRESSIVELY PURSUING. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SETTLE FOR THE BARE MINIMUM. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. PEOPLE SAY, WHAT CAN A CITY DO? THIS IS A NATIONAL OR AN INTERNATIONAL LEVEL ISSUE. IT IS NOT TRUE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I KNOW BECAUSE I DRIVE ELECTRIC AND I COMPOST AND I HAVE SOLAR AND I INVEST. I TOOK OUT LOANS. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO BE RICH TO DO, YOU CAN INVEST IN IT. I BELIEVE AT THE CITY LEVEL, WE NEED TO BE DOING A LOT MORE THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW, AND THIS OPTION NUMBER 4 IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING. I THINK THERE'S MORE. I EVEN MENTIONED SOME OF IT, LIKE THE LANDSCAPING EQUIPMENT BEYOND THE GAS LEAF BLOWERS, BUT OTHER THINGS LIKE LAWN MOWERS. WE ALSO NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE IMPACT ON OUR BUSINESSES AND ON OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE SMALL BUSINESSES, INCLUDING LANDSCAPERS, NEED HELP TO GET THERE, TO TRANSITION THEIR EQUIPMENT TO ELECTRIC AND TO FIND THAT MORE AFFORDABLE OPTION. [02:45:05] I KNOW THAT, AND I DO BELIEVE AND HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR MORE INCENTIVES AND MORE SUBSIDIES, REBATES AND EXCHANGES. WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. I WILL CONTINUE TO BE A CHAMPION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, AND THIS WILL NOT STOP WITH THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING FOR OPTION 4, IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, AND I DO THINK THAT WE ARE LISTENING CLOSELY TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HEARING THEM, THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION. I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND I HAVE BEEN FOR 14 YEARS. I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH MULTIPLE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, INCLUDING SAN DIEGO REGIONAL CHAMBER AND CARLSBAD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.. I KNOW THAT WE CAN FIND WAYS TO WORK TOGETHER, AND WE CAN PURSUE THESE THINGS TOGETHER. I FIND THAT SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS WE CAN WORK ON THOSE TOGETHER, INCLUDING THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, WHICH WE HAVEN'T DONE YET, BUT WHY WOULD WE INVEST THE TIME AND MONEY IN A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IF WE AREN'T GOING TO PURSUE IT? WE SHOULD SAY, YES, WE'RE PURSUING THE REACH CODE. WE'LL DO THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND IF IT DOESN'T PENCIL OUT, WE'LL TAKE IT OUT. WE DON'T NEED TO REPLACE ANYTHING IN THE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND THE BARE MINIMUM. I'M ALL FOR OPTION 4, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY PASSION FROM MY COLLEAGUES BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S FROM THE RESIDENTS. THANKS. >> MISS BHAT PATEL. >> THANK YOU. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF. YOU ALL HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HEAVY LIFTING AND WORK ON THIS AND OUTREACH, WHICH I KNOW WAS VERY ROBUST AS WELL WITH ALL OF THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS. I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR COMMUNITY, AND OF COURSE, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT REACHED OUT TO US. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE HEARING EVEN THE PUSH AND PULL UP HERE ON THE DAIS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE FEELING. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE FEELING THAT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AND OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC. IT IS A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION, AND I KNOW THAT WITH ALL OF OUR DECISIONS, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND AND STRIKE A BALANCE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO UNDERSCORE IS OBVIOUSLY, TO BELIEVE THAT CLIMATE ACTION AND CLIMATE CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND OBVIOUSLY STRONGLY HAVE CHAMPIONED BEING HERE FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO NEED TO DO AS A CITY AND AS A STATE IS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE ACTION AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE TO SAY, I MET WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, I MET WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY. I MET WITH THEM TOGETHER AS WELL. I KNOW WHEN WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS, WE TEND TO HAVE SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING. IT'S SO IMPORTANT WHEN YOU HAVE FOLKS LIKE US AT THE TABLE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR EVERYONE FOR US TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF DIALOGUE TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH BETTER SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR EVERYONE. SOMETIMES THESE TYPES OF SOLUTIONS THAT WE END UP HAVING CREATE DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE MOST, AND I THINK THAT'S THE PART THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL TO ME IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT DOING THAT. I THINK OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT BACK IN 2020, AND THIS WAS WHEN I HAD JUST CONSIDERED THE SINGLE USE PLASTICS ORDINANCE, FOR INSTANCE, I BROUGHT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY TOGETHER AT LEGOLAND TO TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND HOW TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. VERY SIMILARLY, IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT LEGISLATION AND WE THINK ABOUT LOCAL POLICIES THAT WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO IT TOGETHER. THE PIECE THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS THAT WE'RE MEETING OUR GOALS ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE OPTIONS. OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD ALSO EXCEED OUR GOALS BY ADOPTING ONE OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN LISTED. THE PIECE TO SAY, OBVIOUSLY, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I'M OF A GENERATION THAT HAS SEEN CLIMATE CHANGE HAPPEN IN FRONT OF MY EYES. MY SON IS LITERALLY LIVING IT NOW, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THAT. I ALSO HAVE TALKED TO SO MANY DIFFERENT SMALL BUSINESSES, WORKERS WITHIN OUR OWN COMMUNITY, DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A WHOLE PIECE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO TO BRING THEM ALONG IN THIS CONVERSATION. FOR ME, IT WOULD BE AN INJUSTICE TO JUST MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR STAFF DIDN'T DO THAT. OUR STAFF TOTALLY DID THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US AS POLICYMAKERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT OUTREACH AND THAT IF WE'RE DOING THAT, [02:50:01] THAT WE'RE THEN LIVING WITH THE CONSEQUENCES AFTERWARDS. AGAIN, THE IMPACT WAS, I HAVE TO SAY THE DIFFERENCE WAS 0.68% BETWEEN THE OPTIONS. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT TOO. FOR ME, I'M A DATA DRIVEN PERSON. I AM A PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, I CLEARLY CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. MY SERVICE HAS BEEN IN PUBLIC HEALTH. I THINK THE OPTION AND I TRIED TO FIND AN IN BETWEEN. I KNOW THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES DID NOT AGREE ON IT COMPLETELY. MY IN BETWEEN OPTION FROM THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WAS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR, NOT COMPLETELY SIMILAR, WHICH WAS OPTION 1, BUT THEN INCLUDING BACK THE SOLAR CARPORTS, SO NOT NECESSARILY HAVING THE REACH CODES GOING INTO EFFECT JUST YET, BUT HAVING AGAIN, OPTION 1, BUT THEN INCLUDING THOSE MUNICIPAL CARPORTS AGAIN. THAT'S WHERE I WAS AT. I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THE TDM REMOVING THAT PIECE. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I COULD SAY A LOT MORE, BUT I THINK WE'VE ALL LISTENED TO A LOT TONIGHT SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> I'M GOING TO MODIFY MY THOUGHTS AND THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION. BUT I'LL FOLLOW IT UP WITH A MINUTE MOTION. I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF COACHING FROM THE CITY MANAGER ON HOW TO PROPERLY DO THIS. MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE FOR CHOICE NUMBER 1, BUT WITH THE ADDITION OF CITY OWNED SOLAR CANOPY OR CARPORT WITH BATTERY BACKUP AND CHARGING STATIONS. I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE DISCRETION OF OUR STAFF AS TO HOW MANY BATTERIES, HOW MANY CHARGING STATIONS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. THEN I'M GOING TO STOP THERE AND THEN I HAVE A MINUTE MOTION FOR ANY ADDITIONS. >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION. MISS ACOSTA. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE MOTION. I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION HERE. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT BECAUSE I'M ADAMANT THAT WE NEED TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AND THAT'S OPTION 4, BUT I APPRECIATE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> THAT'S LEAVING THE TDM IN? >> THEN I HAVE A MINUTE MOTION TO FOLLOW. >> WELL, IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S FOLLOWING, HOW CAN I? >> YOU CAN SAY NO TO THE MINUTE MOTION AFTER. >> RIGHT NOW WE'RE VOTING ON THE FIRST MOTION. WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 4:1 WITH MISS ACOSTA COMMENTS. THEN MY MINUTE MOTION IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO EVALUATE THE CITY'S CURRENT TDM ORDINANCE, TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO MODIFY THE STANDARDS WITHOUT COMPROMISING OUR ABILITY TO REACH OUR 2045 TARGET. THAT ADDRESSES MY CONCERN ABOUT THE SMALL BUSINESSES. >> SINCE WE'RE DOING MINUTE MOTIONS I SECOND. >> GO AHEAD, MISS LUNA. >> NO. >> YOU HAVE DISCUSSION? >> YES, DISCUSSION. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DISCUSS. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? >> JUST A QUESTION. IS THIS WITH REGARDS TO WHAT YOU WERE REFERENCING EARLIER WHERE WHAT WOULD THE IMPACT BE ON SMALL BUSINESSES AND HOW WE COULD MAKE IT, SO IT WAS A BIT MORE AMENABLE TO SMALL BUSINESSES? WAS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AND THEN WITHOUT OBVIOUSLY IMPACTING OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN? >> THAT'S CORRECT. MISS ACOSTA. >> A QUESTION AS WELL. I HEAR THE COMMENT ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT IS THE OBJECTIVE OF DOING THIS STUDY TO PARE DOWN OUR TDM PROGRAM? WE WANT TO DO LESS? >> NO. I JUST DON'T WANT OUR TDM PROGRAM TO GET IN THE WAY OF BUSINESSES EXPANDING. ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WAS MADE BY STAFF, WHERE A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS TRIGGERS SOME CHANGES THAT THEY CANNOT DO BECAUSE THEIR BUILDING WOULD BE OLD, SO THEY WON'T MAKE THE CHANGES AND THEY WON'T UPDATE. >> BUT THAT MEANS DOING LESS? I THINK THAT'S HOW I'M SAYING IT. THANK YOU. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT. THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PLEASE VOTE. >> THAT PASSES 3:2. DO YOU NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING? >> NOT CLARIFICATION. THERE WAS ONE MORE RECOMMENDED ACTION, WHICH IS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION CERTIFYING THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT. >> MOTION? >> I CAN WAIT TILL THE END WHEN WE GENERALLY DO THOSE. YES, I'M SURE. [02:55:06] >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. FOR THE AUDIENCE, THIS IS WHAT WAS PREPARED FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. STAFF IS EARNING YOUR MONEY. >> NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 9 CITY MANAGER. [9. SAN DIEGO ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS REGIONAL UPDATE AND FORECAST] >> ITEM NUMBER 9 IS THE SAN DIEGO ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT'S REGIONAL UPDATE AND FORECAST. FIRST UP, I'LL GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR, MR. JASON HABER. JASON. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHADWICK, AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS ITEM IS TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM SANDAG ON THEIR REGIONAL UPDATE AND FORECAST DATA. TONIGHT, WE HAVE SANDAG PRINCIPAL ECONOMIST NAOMI YOUNG TO PROVIDE TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION. IF YOU JUST GIVE ME ONE MOMENT, I'LL PULL UP YOUR SLIDES. >> GO AHEAD, MISS YOUNG. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS NAOMI YOUNG. I'M A PRINCIPAL ECONOMIST HERE AT SANDAG. SORRY, I'M GOING TO ADJUST. I'LL GET USED TO THAT. THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW WE SEE THE REGION EVOLVING OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS AND TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT WE SEE IS FORECASTED FOR CARLSBAD. AS WE ALL KNOW, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE HAS A LONG RUNWAY IN DELIVERY, AND TO PLAN EFFECTIVELY, WE NEED TO CONSIDER HOW THE REGION WILL LOOK AND CHANGE OVER TIME. SANDAG UPDATES THIS FORECAST EVERY FOUR YEARS, AND IT UNDERPINS OUR REGIONAL PLAN. SPECIFICALLY, WE LOOK AT POPULATION HOUSING AND JOBS, AND OUR LATEST FORECAST RUNS 2022-2050. IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT FROM PAST FORECAST. SANDAG, WHEN WE DO OUR FORECAST, WE FINALLY NUMBER THEM. THE MOST RECENT ONE IS SERIES 15, WHICH IS THE PURPLE LINE. AS REFERENCED FOUR YEARS AGO, SERIES 14 WAS WHAT WE WERE PROJECTING FOR SAN DIEGO'S POPULATION GROWTH. THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD NOTICE IS THAT PRIOR TO THIS MOST RECENT UPDATE, WE REALLY THOUGHT THE NEXT 10 YEARS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE PAST 10 YEARS, SO THIS IS YEAR OVER YEAR POPULATION GROWTH. BUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING NOW IS THAT WE'RE PROJECTING THAT NOT ONLY IS THE POPULATION GROWTH SLOWER, IT FLATTENS OUT, AND THEN EVENTUALLY DECLINES. WHAT THIS MEANS IS IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN 2035 AND WHERE WE WOULD BE IN 2050, WE'LL BE AT THE SAME POPULATION LEVELS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH AND THEN DECLINE, THE COMPOSITION OF OUR POPULATION WILL LOOK REALLY DIFFERENT. THIS TYPE OF TREND IN POPULATION GROWTH HAS SOME REALLY BIG IMPLICATIONS FOR HOW WE THINK ABOUT THE HOUSING NEEDS OF OUR REGION, THE SERVICES THAT OUR COMMUNITIES NEED, AS WELL AS HOW WE RE-PURPOSE INFRASTRUCTURE OVER TIME. I THINK THOSE TWO CHARTS OR THAT CHART WITH THOSE TWO LINES MAKES IT REALLY HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS POPULATION REALLY LOOKS LIKE FROM YEAR OVER YEAR. FOR THE REGION, THIS SHOWS YOU HOW POPULATIONS CHANGE ANNUALLY FROM YEAR TO YEAR. THE FIRST THING YOU CAN NOTICE IS THAT HISTORICALLY, THE LAST 30 YEARS, WE HAD ADDED AROUND AROUND 800,000 PEOPLE. LOOKING OUT TO THE NEXT 30 YEARS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING ONLY ABOUT 100,000 TO OUR REGION. THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER POPULATION GROWTH. THE OTHER THING YOU'LL NOTICE IS THAT HISTORICALLY, WE'VE HAD POPULATION GROWTH THAT'S CYCLICAL, BUT IT'S ALWAYS POSITIVE. IT'S ONLY DURING COVID THAT WE FINALLY SAW A POPULATION DECREASE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT DECREASE WAS QUITE SIGNIFICANT, IT'S EQUIVALENT TO A COUPLE OF YEARS OF GROWTH. NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOWER BASE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO BUILD FROM THERE. IF YOU LOOK OUT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, WHAT YOU SEE IS THE GREEN LINES AND SO POPULATION IS SLOWLY GROWING, BUT THEN IT TAPERS OFF AND IT EVENTUALLY GOES NEGATIVE BY AROUND 2042. ACTUALLY I BACKUP FOR A MINUTE. THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE DRIVING THAT POPULATION GROWTH AND THEY'RE NOT LIKELY TO CHANGE. FIRST IS NATURAL CHANGE. BIRTH RATES HAVE BEEN DECLINING FOR OVER TWO DECADES. THEN NET MIGRATION, WHICH IS BOTH INTERNATIONAL AND DOMESTIC HAS ALSO BEEN SLOWING. WHAT WE'VE BEEN FINDING IS THAT WE HAVE MORE OUTFLOW DOMESTICALLY. WE HISTORICALLY HAD STRONGER INFLOW FROM INTERNATIONAL MIGRATION THAT'S TAPERED OFF, AND THE NET EFFECT IS THAT IT'S BEEN DECREASING. MOST RECENTLY IN 2023, [03:00:01] WE FOUND THAT POPULATION IN SAN DIEGO DID INCREASE, AND THAT'S LARGELY BECAUSE OF MIGRATIONS PICKING UP A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S WHAT'S FUELING SOME OF OUR GROWTH. BUT THE POINT IS THAT WHEN WE LOOK ACROSS THE COUNTY AND WE SEE THIS GROWTH TREND, WHAT'S REALLY MORE STRIKING ABOUT THIS REGIONAL FORECAST IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE SUB REGIONALLY. WHAT I HAVE HERE ARE THE 10 LARGEST JURISDICTIONS IN TERMS OF FORECASTED POPULATION GROWTH. THE THING THAT YOU SHOULD NOTICE IS THAT THIS IS IN PERCENTAGES. THE TWO LARGEST JURISDICTIONS IN TERMS OF GROWTH, WE'RE EXPECTING THAT THEIR POPULATION WILL INCREASE BY ABOUT 17%, BUT WITHIN OUR TOP 10 JURISDICTIONS, WE HAVE TWO THAT STILL GO NEGATIVE. THAT JUST GIVES YOU A SENSE OF DISTRIBUTIONALLY WHERE THAT POPULATION GROWTH IS OCCURRING ACROSS THE JURISDICTIONS. YOU CAN SEE THAT CARLSBAD IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, IT'S RANK 6, AND SO THAT PLUS 1,200 PEOPLE, THAT'S ABOUT A 1% INCREASE OVER YOUR CURRENT POPULATION. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OVER TIME, YOU CAN SEE THAT YOUR POPULATION TRAJECTORY IS MUCH LIKE HOW WE'RE PROJECTING FOR THE COUNTY. YOU HAVE SOME PRETTY RELATIVELY STRONG POPULATION GROWTH UP TO ABOUT 2035. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CARLSBAD AND THE REGION IN TERMS OF POPULATION GROWTH IS THAT WE'RE PROJECTING YOU TO PEAK AT AROUND 2035, WHEREAS THE COUNTY IS PEAKING AROUND 2042, AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS PRETTY DECREASE OVER TIME. YOUR NET EFFECT, AS I MENTIONED, IS ABOUT 1% POPULATION GROWTH OVER 2022 LEVELS, WHEREAS THE COUNTY OVERALL WOULD BE AT 3.4%. AGAIN, YOU'RE RANKED HIGHER THAN A LOT OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS, SUB REGIONALLY IN TERMS OF POPULATION GROWTH, BUT IT'S STILL FAIRLY MODERATE OVER TIME RELATIVE TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS. POPULATION GROWTH THAT WE'RE PROJECTING HAS SOME IMPLICATIONS IN TERMS OF THE COMPOSITION OF OUR REGION. FIRST, WHAT WE'LL NOTICE IS THAT THE REGION IS BECOMING MORE DIVERSE. THAT DIVERSITY IS LARGELY STEMMING FROM GROWTH IN THE SHARE OF ASIANS IN THE REGION AS WELL AS MULTI RACIAL. WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE TOO IS THAT HISPANIC OR LATINX IS FAIRLY STABLE OVER TIME IN TERMS OF THAT AND THAT'S LARGELY BECAUSE OF THEIR BIRTH RATES. BUT I THINK MORE STRIKING ABOUT OUR POPULATION GROWTH IS WHAT IT MEANS IN TERMS OF OUR AGE STRUCTURE. SLOWER POPULATION GROWTH TYPICALLY TRANSLATES INTO ALSO AN AGING POPULATION. WE LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THE AGE STRUCTURE OF A COMMUNITY OR OF A REGION USING AGE PYRAMIDS. POPULATION GROWTH TYPICALLY LOOKS LIKE A TRIANGLE OR A PYRAMID WHERE YOU HAVE A STRONGER BASE OF YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU HAVE FEWER OLDER PEOPLE, AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS BY 2050 HOW OUR TRIANGLE TURNS TO A COLUMN. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE'RE GETTING MORE OLDER, FEWER, YOUNGER. WHEN YOU HAVE FEWER YOUNGER, IT ALSO MEANS THAT WE HAVE LESS ROOM FOR ATTRITION OR FOR PEOPLE TO FOLLOW THOSE NATURAL PATTERNS OF LIFE THAT MOVE THEM IN AND OUT OF A REGION. IF YOU WANT TO PUT THIS IN ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE, IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY BY 2050, WE GAIN ABOUT 250,000 SENIORS AND WE LOSE ABOUT 100,000 YOUTH. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AROUND A ROOM RIGHT NOW OR AT A PARK OR WALKING RENTAL MALL, YOU'D SEE THAT ONE IN FIVE IS SOMEBODY UNDER THE AGE OF 18, AND BY 2050 ONE IN FIVE WILL BE SOMEBODY OVER THE AGE OF 65. FOR CARLSBAD, YOU CAN SEE THAT YOUR AGE STRUCTURE WILL LOOK A LOT LIKE THE COUNTY. YOU HAVE GAINING SENIORS, FEWER YOUTH. THE POINT THAT'S PROMISING IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THOUGH, IS THAT YOUR PRIME AGE WORKERS, WE'VE MODIFIED OUR PRIME AGE WORKERS DEFINITION. BUT PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE ENGAGED IN THE WORKFORCE IS FAIRLY STABLE AND YOU LOOK A LOT LIKE THE COUNTY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU STILL HAVE THE TALENT POOL TO SUPPORT JOB CREATION WITHIN YOUR REGION, WHICH IS A POSITIVE THING WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION. THIS IS A PRETTY BUSY MAP CHART, BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO DO IS JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT POPULATION GROWTH OR DECLINE DOES NOT EQUATE TO HAVING FEWER HOUSEHOLDS. AS WE HAVE AN OLDER POPULATION, WHAT YOU TEND TO GET IS SMALLER HOUSEHOLDS, AND AS A RESULT, YOU END UP HAVING MORE HOUSEHOLDS OVER TIME. WHAT YOU CAN SEE THAT IS IN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BLUE AND THE PURPLE LINES. THE BLUE BARS ARE POPULATION, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE DECREASING, THE PINKY PURPLE BARS ARE THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS. WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE DIVERGENCE IN THAT PATTERN, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT INDICATOR IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT THE HOUSING NEEDS OF YOUR JURISDICTION. THAT'S GOING TO MAKE ME TRANSITION TO TALKING ABOUT HOUSING. THIS IS WHAT ANNUAL HOUSING GROWTH LOOK LIKE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING. YOU CAN SEE THAT PRIOR TO THE GREAT RECESSION, [03:05:04] THAT WE HAD PRETTY STRONG HOUSING GROWTHS OR HOUSING STOCK EXPANSION, AND THEN AS A RESULT OF GREAT RECESSION, IT COMPRESSED WITH THE FINANCIAL MARKETS DECLINING. BUT AS WE START TO LOOK FORWARD OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, WE'RE ACTUALLY PROJECTING REALLY STRONG HOUSING GROWTH IN THE COUNTY. IT'S EQUIVALENT TO PRE- GREAT RECESSION LEVELS AND IT CONTINUES TO GROW THROUGHOUT TIME, OUT TO 2050, SLOWING DOWN. NOW THE THING THAT I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT YOU CAN SEE AROUND 2048 THAT WE'RE NOT SHOWING ANY MORE GREEN, AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE HOUSING MARKET COLLAPSES. IT'S JUST SAYING THAT THE NET GAIN IN OUR HOUSING STOCK FOR THE COUNTY DOESN'T GROW. THAT MEANS THAT THE TYPE OF HOUSING IN THE HOUSING ACTIVITY IS HAPPENING IS A LOT OF REHAB, TEAR DOWNS, REBUILDS, SO THE NET EFFECT IS STILL NET GAIN 0. IN CARLSBAD, WE'RE PROJECTING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ABOUT 6,100 HOUSING UNITS BY 2050. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE DARKER GREEN AREAS ARE WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING HOUSING. I THINK WHAT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS THAT ALTHOUGH CARLSBAD IS ONE OF THE STRONGER GROWING AREAS IN TERMS OF HOUSING STOCK, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE ALSO PROJECTED TO HAVE QUITE STRONG HOUSING GROWTH. SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART. AGAIN, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW REGIONAL POPULATION IS NOT FOLLOWING THE SAME EVEN DISTRIBUTION ACROSS THE COUNTY. WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESSES AND THEIR ABILITY TO PULL TALENT INTO THE REGION, WHERE YOU SEE HOUSING GROWING NEARBY IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR, IT'S A TALENT POOL THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE. THE TYPE OF HOUSING UNITS THAT YOU HAVE PROJECTED FOR YOUR REGION, WE LOOK AT SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY. YOUR PATTERNS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE COUNTY WHERE STRONG HOUSING GROWTH UP IN THE FIRST DECADE AND THAT THE DOMINANT TYPE OF HOUSING THAT'S COMING ONTO THE MARKET IS PROJECTED TO BE IS MULTIFAMILY, WHICH LINES UP WITH SOME OF THE HOUSEHOLD TRENDS AND COMPOSITION THAT WE SEE IN THE REGION. I'VE TALKED ABOUT POPULATION AND HOUSING, AND THE LAST PIECE TO TALK ABOUT IS A JOB GROWTH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FORECAST IS THAT SAN DIEGO'S ECONOMY CONTINUES TO GROW QUITE STRONGLY, EVEN DESPITE THE SLOWER POPULATION GROWTH. A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WE SEE EMPLOYERS AND BUSINESSES CHANGING THE WAY THAT THEY ENGAGE TALENT AND HOLD ONTO EMPLOYEES, AND SO YOU CAN THINK ABOUT HYBRID WORK ALONG WITH INCREASING GIG WORKERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN OUR COUNTY. CARLSBAD IS ONE OF THE LEADING AREAS FOR JOB CREATION OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS, AND THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT 66% OF YOUR JOBS CURRENTLY ARE LOCATED IN FIVE KEY SECTORS. BUT WHAT YOU CAN NOTICE IS THAT THE PROJECTED JOB GROWTH IS REALLY UNEVEN ACROSS THESE SECTORS. YOUR STRONG LEADERS ARE BUSINESS SERVICES, MANUFACTURING, AND HEALTHCARE. RETAIL FOOD AND ACCOMMODATION, WE DO PROJECT SLOWING AND ACTUALLY LOSING SOME EMPLOYMENT. NOW, I WANT TO SAY THAT WE DID THIS PROJECTIONS RIGHT AFTER COVID. RETAIL AND FOOD AND ACCOMMODATION, ENTERTAINMENT, TOURISM HAS REALLY REBOUNDED QUITE STRONGLY, AND SO I THINK THE JURY'S OUT ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS NEGATIVE REALLY DOES MATERIALIZE, BUT I DO WANT TO FLAG THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS SANDAG DOES TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE JOB CREATION OCCURS IN THE REGIONS, WE HAVE A THING CALLED EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. WE'RE ON OUR SECOND ITERATION. WHAT IT DOES IS IDENTIFIES PLACES AROUND THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF THEIR DENSEST AND LARGEST EMPLOYMENT TO LEAST AND THAT WE DO THAT IN TIERS 1-4, AND YOU CAN SEE JUST GENERALLY WHERE THESE ARE ALL DISTRIBUTED. BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS FOCUS ON CARLSBAD AND ITS VICINITY. YOUR AREA IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT CENTERS IS REALLY QUITE INTERESTING. WE HAVE SIX EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, BUT WHAT I THINK IS QUITE NOTABLE IS THAT THREE OF YOUR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS ARE ON YOUR BOUNDARIES, SO THEY'RE BASICALLY EMPLOYMENT CENTERS THAT SPILL ACROSS INTO YOUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS. AS AN ECONOMIST, WE LIKE SEEING THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU START TO HAVE THIS INTEGRATION WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT ALLOWS FOR OPTIONS FOR LEVERAGING STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES IN TERMS OF ATTRACTION AND POOL OF EMPLOYMENT, AND IT CREATES SOME ADDED DIVERSITY. YOUR TIER 2 AND 3 EMPLOYMENT CENTERS ARE VERY HEAVILY FOCUSED ON BUSINESS SERVICES AND MANUFACTURING, YOUR TWO LEADING SECTORS FOR DRIVING JOB GROWTH, SO THAT'S A POSITIVE. YOU OTHER THREE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, [03:10:03] WHICH ARE TIER 4 SO THEY'RE SMALLER, THEY TEND TO BE VERY FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY SERVICES AND ACTIVITIES, AND SO THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE HEALTH CARE SHOWS UP QUITE STRONGLY. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT SOME OF THOSE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, THEY'RE RIGHT ON YOUR BOUNDARY, SO THAT MEANS THAT THOSE AREAS FOR JOB GROWTH, THEY'RE ALSO SERVING NOT JUST CARLSBAD, BUT YOUR NEIGHBORS. I HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS EMPLOYMENT CENTERS ALLOWS US TO DO IS SEE WHERE YOU ATTRACT TALENT OR LABOR TO FILL THESE OUT. CARLSBAD'S EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, ABOUT 50% OF IT, IS ALL SOURCED FROM RESIDENTS IN NORTH COUNTY. THOSE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS THAT ARE SITTING ON YOUR BOUNDARIES, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW YOU'RE PULLING IN LABOR. >> I SPED THROUGH A LOT OF THAT PRETTY FAST BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL TIRED, BUT THE LONG TERM TRENDS FOR CARLSBAD, WHAT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS THAT WHILE THE COUNTY HAS SLOWER POPULATION GROWTH, CARLSBAD AMONG OTHER JURISDICTIONS IS ACTUALLY GROWING RELATIVELY STRONGLY. AS WE START THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE AND WHEN WE HEAR THE KEY TAKEAWAY IS THAT EVEN WHEN WE HEAR A COUNTY TREND, WE SHOULD REALLY BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE WITHIN EACH JURISDICTION BECAUSE THE JURISDICTIONS TREND MAY DIFFER FROM THE COUNTY'S TREND. CARLSBAD, ONE OF THE FEW JURISDICTIONS THAT REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE THE COUNTY AVERAGE, WHICH IS PRETTY PROMISING. YOU'RE RANKING SIXTH AMONG JURISDICTIONS IN TERMS OF GROWING JOBS, ADDING ABOUT 6,000 BY 2050. YOUR THREE LEADING JOB CREATION SECTORS ARE MANUFACTURING HEALTHCARE AND BUSINESS SERVICES, ALL WHICH CREATE GOOD OPPORTUNITIES IN TERMS OF HIGH QUALITY JOBS, AND LEVERAGING SOME OF THE TRENDS THAT WE SEE NATIONALLY. YOUR POPULATION GROWTH IS POSITIVE WITH YOU NETTING ABOUT A 1% GAIN OVERALL AND THAT YOUR HOUSING REALLY FOLLOWS THE COUNTY TRENDS WHERE YOU'RE ADDING QUITE STRONGLY AND PARTICULARLY A MULTI FAMILY. THANK YOU. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? >> NO, MAYOR WE DO NOT. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. >> SURE. >> THE ONE OF YOUR VERY FIRST SLIDES SHOWED THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GROW AT THE SAME PACE. WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GROW IN POPULATION. DOES THAT MEAN SANDAG IS GOING TO RE EVALUATE THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATIONS TO THE DIFFERENT CITIES? >> SO WE ARE DOING OUR REGIONAL FORECAST IN OF ARENA YEAR. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET THROUGH REGIONAL PLAN 2025 AND THEN SEE WHERE THAT LANDS. >> MISS ACOSTA. >> THANK YOU. THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU WERE HERE. I HEARD THAT SANDAG HAS BEEN MAKING PRESENTATIONS TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND SO GLAD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS PRESENTATION HOPEFULLY, WE'LL GET THE SLIDES AS WELL. ON SLIDE 6, I SAW THAT SPIKE IN 2027 AND I WAS SO CURIOUS. WHAT IS THAT AROUND THERE? I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS SOME DATA THAT IS INDICATING THAT BIG, THAT WAS IT BACK. SORRY. FOUR. NO >> SLIDE 6,. >> SLIDE 6 SORRY. FIVE, 6. SO 2026 -2028, THERE'S A BIG UPWARD TREND THERE AND I'M WONDERING WHAT IS THE INDICATOR THAT IS DRIVING THAT SPIKE? >> COUNTY WISE ARE POPULATIONS GROWING DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. SORRY, THE FLAT 22-26 AND THEN 2026-29, THE FIRST, 22-26 IS PARTIALLY AGAIN, AT THE TIME THAT WE'RE DOING THIS FORECAST, I MEAN WE'RE STILL REALLY PROJECTING THAT THE RECOVERY FROM THE PANDEMIC IN TERMS OF POPULATION GROWTH WOULD BE PRETTY LIMITED. THEN BY 26, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE RECOVERY OF MIGRATION INTO THE COUNTY. THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING THAT UP. I MEAN, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS CHART, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE IT MAPPED OUT THAT WAY, I TEND TO SMOOTH OUT BETWEEN ANY OF THE BIG PIVOT POINTS. TO ME, THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS 22-29, WE'RE ANTICIPATING RELATIVELY STRONG POPULATION GROWTH AND LARGELY DRIVEN AS A RESULT OF MIGRATION AND NOT BY NET BIRTH OR NET CHANGE. >> THANK YOU. >> I MEAN BIRTH RATES. >> YEAH. HIGHER BIRTH RATES. WHAT MAKES US THINK SORRY IF YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS, BUT WHY DO WE SPECIFICALLY THINK THAT MIGRATION IS HAPPENING HERE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WELL, WE'RE ALREADY SEEN THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT IN 2023. SO 2023 POPULATION FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY DID INCREASE. IT WAS POSITIVE. THAT'S ONE ASPECT OF IT. IN TERMS OF THE OTHER ASPECT IS THAT SAN DIEGO COUNTY STILL CONTINUES TO HAVE [03:15:03] A FAIRLY RESILIENT ECONOMY AND HAS HAD STRONG WAGE GROWTH OVER TIME, SO THAT ALLOWS US TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE. THE OTHER PIECE TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT THIS POPULATION DECREASE AND SOME OF THE MIGRATION PRESSURES THAT WE'RE SEEING DOMESTICALLY, WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THAT. THE UNITED STATES IS SEEING SLOWER POPULATION GROWTH. WE'RE ALL COMPETING FOR TALENT. SAN DIEGO COUNTY TENDS TO DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN THAT SPACE. >> SURE. >> MISS LUNA. >> IS THE MIGRATION MOSTLY IN THE TECH SECTOR? THAT I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE EMPLOYMENT DATA, I DON'T SEE WHERE THEY'RE PULLING TALENT FROM. I JUST CONNECT THE DOTS. YOU SEE POPULATION GROWTH, WHERE DO WE SEE STRONG JOB GROWTH? THEN THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THAT'S LEVERAGING THAT AS OPPOSED TO A STRONGER RESHUFFLE WITHIN OR ACROSS SECTORS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE. >> I WILL ACTUALLY JUST SAY THAT WITHIN THE TECH SECTOR, SAN DIEGO DID PRETTY WELL, WE DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF THE JOB LOSSES THAT WE WERE TRACKING IN 23 AND EARLY 24. >> MISS BHAT-PATEL. >> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE AND ESPECIALLY SO LATE, SO WE APPRECIATE IT. A FEW QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD TO MODIFY THE PRIME AGE MARKERS. COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU MODIFIED THEM FROM? >> SURE. TRADITIONALLY, ECONOMISTS CALL PRIME AGE WORKERS AGES 25-55. I THINK IN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, PARTICULARLY, WE START THINKING ABOUT THAT THERE'S BEEN A STRONGER EMPHASIS ON PURSUING TRADES. ALONG WITH RETIREMENT SOCIAL SECURITY BEING PUSHED OUT LATER, WE TEND TO START THINKING ABOUT OUR PRIME AGE WORKERS 18-65. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. THEN I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS THE SLIDE AROUND RETAIL AND SEEING A POTENTIAL DECREASE THERE. THEN I KNOW YOU SAID THAT MAYBE IT'S THERE, MAYBE IT'S NOT THERE BASED ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING DURING THE PANDEMIC. HOWEVER, I GUESS QUESTION TO YOU BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SEEING TRENDS IN OBVIOUSLY ONLINE RETAIL. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING RETAIL, I'M ASSUMING IT'S BRICK AND MORTAR VERSUS ONLINE. >> IT'S BOTH BOTH. >> BOTH. YEAH. THE RETAIL TRADE IS GOING TO INCLUDE ONLINE AS WELL. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE THAT THE NEGATIVE 11% MUST BE LOWER THAN, I'M ASSUMING. >> WE WON'T UPDATE OUR FORECAST FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS. BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS AS I LOOK AT HOW DIFFERENT SECTORS ARE RECOVERING IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT AND WE'RE ON MARK OR OFF IN CALIBRATING TO THE REGIONAL FORECAST, RETAIL FOOD AND ACCOMMODATION, TOURISM SECTORS HAVE REALLY RECOVERED MUCH STRONGER THAN WE EXPECTED. >> WE DEFINITELY HAVE HEARD THAT AS WELL, SPECIFICALLY EVEN HERE IN THE CITY. THAT'S HELPFUL. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS AROUND I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT THE TOP THREE JOB CREATION CATEGORIES WOULD BE MANUFACTURING HEALTH CARE AND BUSINESS SERVICES. WHEN YOU ALL DEFINE HEALTH CARE, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT INCLUDES LIFE SCIENCES OR IF THAT'S EXCLUDING THEM BECAUSE I KNOW LIFE SCIENCES IS HUGE WHERE IN THIS WOULD LIFE SCIENCES FALL FOR YOU ALL? THE ANSWER IS IT'S IN A MIX OF PLACES. IT'S GOING TO SHOW UP IN MANUFACTURING. YEAH BIOPHARMA, IT'S GOING TO SHOW UP IN HEALTH CARE AND TRADITIONAL HEALTH CARE. IT'S ALSO GOING TO SHOW UP IN A SECTOR THAT WE DON'T HAVE HERE, WHICH IS REALLY TEMP WORKERS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYMENT FOR NURSES DURING COVID WOULD SHOW UP. IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD. THE WAY THAT I TEND TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS THAT AS OUR ECONOMY AND BUSINESSES EVOLVE, THESE INDUSTRY SECTORS THAT WE USE FOR OUR ECONOMIC ACCOUNTING ARE A LITTLE TOO RIGID. BUT THEY ARE GOOD INDICATORS OF WHERE WE SEE GROWTH. THE WAY THAT I INTERPRET THIS IS HEALTHCARE GROWS. THAT LINES UP WITH THE POPULATION DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS THAT WE SEE. IT ALSO LINES UP WITH THE STRENGTHS THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF MANUFACTURING IN THE REGION. >> THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED TEMP WORKERS IS ANOTHER CATEGORY, AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE WITH MANY OF OUR DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME NOW, [03:20:03] BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE THAT NUMBER IF YOU HAVE IT FOR OUR CITY. IF YOU DON'T MIND SENDING IT TO SOMEBODY, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THAT. >> I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. >> THANK YOU. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANKS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD NIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 10, CITY MANAGER. [10. ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2024-25] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS THE ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 24-25. MAKING OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS OUR ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR, ROXANNE MUHLMEISTER AND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MATT SANFORD. >> THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING. I'M MATT SANFORD. I'M THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY. TODAY'S REPORT COVERS THE FISCAL YEAR 24-25, Q1 WHICH WAS JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2024. CARLSBAD GROSS REGIONAL PROJECT FOR 2023, WHICH IS REPORTED RETROACTIVELY WAS 17.2 BILLION. CARLSBAD'S ECONOMY GREW BY ROUGHLY $600 MILLION OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR OR 3.6%. THE US GDP GROWTH RATE 2022-2023 WAS 2.9%. CARLSBAD OUTPACED THE NATION. HOWEVER, OUR GROWTH RATE WAS ROUGHLY HALF THE RATE 2021-2022. SO WE DID SEE SOME SLOWING. NATIONAL AND GLOBAL FACTORS CONTINUE TO AFFECT ECONOMY, SUCH AS UNCERTAINTY DUE TO GLOBAL TURMOIL, THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, HIGHER COST OF GOODS AND SERVICES, AND HIGH COST OF CAPITAL. INFLATION HAS CONTINUED TO DECREASE. PRICES IN THE SAN DIEGO AREA, AS MEASURED BY THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX OR CPI, INCREASED 0.3% FOR THE TWO MONTHS ENDING IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024. OVER THE PAST YEAR, THE CPI FOR ALL ITEMS FOR THE SAN DIEGO AREA WAS UP 2.5% FOR ALL ITEMS AND 3.4% FOR ALL ITEMS LESS FOOD AND ENERGY. AS INFLATION HAS EASED AND NEARLY RETURNED TO THE TARGET RATE OF 2%, THE FEDERAL RESERVE CUT ITS BASE RATE IN SEPTEMBER BY 0.5 PERCENTAGE POINTS, AND JUST LAST WEEK BY ANOTHER 0.25 PERCENTAGE POINTS. THESE ARE ALL INDICATORS THAT INFLATION IS UNDER CONTROL. THE ECONOMY HEALTHY AND INTEREST RATES ARE RETURNING TO LOWER LEVELS. DESPITE A HEALTHY ECONOMIC OUTLOOK, BUSINESSES ARE STILL CHALLENGED BY CERTAIN TRENDS. THESE TRENDS ARE IMPACTING BUSINESSES EVERYWHERE, BUT AS CARLSBAD IS ALREADY A HIGH COST MARKET, IT CREATES ADDITIONAL PRESSURES FOR BUSINESSES. LOOKING AT UNEMPLOYMENT, CARLSBAD UNEMPLOYMENT WAS 4.4% IN SEPTEMBER. DESPITE SLIGHT SHIFTS, CARLSBAD IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AS A WHOLE, UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS STAYED UNDER 5% FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, MEANING WE'VE BEEN AT FULL EMPLOYMENT SINCE RECOVERING FROM THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC. THERE WERE 9,056 UNIQUE JOB POSTINGS IN CARLSBAD BETWEEN JULY AND SEPTEMBER, SIMILAR NUMBER AS THE PREVIOUS QUARTER. THESE JOBS WERE POSTED BY 1,400 AND 78 DIFFERENT COMPANIES. IN GENERAL, JOB GROWTH HAS PICKED UP OVER THE LAST 6-9 MONTHS CREATING GREATER COMPETITION FOR WORKERS. THE CURRENT MEDIAN HOME PRICE IN CARLSBAD IS 1.52 MILLION, AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 5% OVER THE LAST YEAR. IN GENERAL, HOME PRICES HAVE STABILIZED OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS. AS NOTED, THE HIGH COST OF HOUSING IS A CONCERN FOR EMPLOYERS AND WORKERS AS IT CREATES PRESSURE TO MOVE TO LOWER COST AREAS. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF ROUGHLY 2,500 BUSINESS LICENSES ISSUED LAST QUARTER, INCLUDING 1,020 NON RESIDENTIAL, 603 RESIDENTIAL, AND 875 OUTSIDE THE CITY LICENSES. THIS IS AN OVERALL INCREASE OF 60 TOTAL BUSINESSES OVER THE SAME QUARTER OF 2023. THE ESTIMATED TOTAL NUMBER OF BUSINESSES IN THE CITY IS 6,587, WHICH IS ABOUT 100 FEWER THAN THIS TIME IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. COMMERCIAL OFFICE VACANCIES CONTINUES TO RISE. THE INCREASE IN OFFICE PROPERTIES IS PARTIALLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO BUSINESSES REDUCING OFFICE SPACE TO MEET THEIR CURRENT NEEDS, LEADING TO AN AVERAGE REDUCTION OF ABOUT 15%. THIS IS A TREND TAKING PLACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS HYBRID AND REMOTE WORK CONTINUES, AND BUSINESSES FIND MORE EFFICIENCIES IN THEIR OPERATING SPACE. CARLSBAD HAS FARED BETTER THAN MOST CITIES IN THIS AREA, SOME OF WHICH HAVE EXPERIENCED A HALLOWING OUT OF THEIR OFFICE TENANTS. COMMERCIAL BROKERS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO ANTICIPATE CONTINUED ELEVATED RATES FOR OFFICE PROPERTIES FOR THE NEXT 12-18 MONTHS BEFORE SEEING A REBOUND IN THOSE PROPERTIES. SIMILARLY, THEY'RE SUGGESTING THAT OLDER RETAIL SPACES ARE ANTICIPATED TO TAKE A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO FILL AS RETAIL TENANTS ARE STARTING TO PURSUE NEWER, MORE AMENITIZED SPACES. ON TOURISM, WE HAD A STRONG SUMMER SEASON ON THE TOURISM FRONT. OCCUPANCY AVERAGED 79.33% LAST QUARTER, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 2% OVER THE SAME QUARTER OF 2023. IT'S A GOOD GROWTH RATE. SEPTEMBER IN PARTICULAR HAD AN OCCUPANCY RATE OF 74.2%, [03:25:02] WHICH WAS 4% ABOVE SEPTEMBER OF 2023. CARLSBAD'S AVERAGE DAILY ROOM RATE FOR THE QUARTER WAS A STRONG $257.58, WHICH IS A SLIGHT INCREASE OVER 2023 LEVELS. OVERALL, CARLSBAD ECONOMY CONTINUES TO BE IN A STRONG POSITION. OUR DIVERSE ECONOMY IS POISED FOR GROWTH, ASSUMING A CLEAR ROAD AHEAD AND BARRING ANY UNFORESEEN SETBACKS. HOWEVER, MANY BUSINESSES AND ESPECIALLY SMALL BUSINESSES ARE STILL EXPERIENCING CHALLENGES RELATED TO HIGHER COSTS AND ACCESS TO WORKERS. NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR ROXANNE MUHLMEISTER. >> THANK YOU, MR. SANDFORD. I'M GOING TO RUN MY OWN SLIDES. WE'RE GOING. YOU GOT IT. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN WITH OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE CITY'S TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUES GROUPED BY SOURCE FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THE FIRST COLUMN OF EACH GROUP REPRESENTS THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF ACTUAL REVENUES RECEIVED AT THIS TIME LAST FISCAL YEAR. THE SECOND COLUMN REPRESENTS THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF EXPECTED REVENUE AND THE THIRD COLUMN REPRESENTS FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF ACTUAL REVENUES, WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. OVERALL, THIS YEAR'S FIRST QUARTER HAVE EXCEEDED LAST YEAR'S ACTUALS AND THIS YEAR'S EXPECTATIONS WITH THE PRIMARY EXCEPTION OF SALES TAX, WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS IN MORE DEPTH ON THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE SO SHOWS THE FIRST QUARTER OF GENERAL FUND REVENUE DATA NUMERICALLY, WITH A COMPARISON OF PREVIOUS FIRST QUARTER DATA TO THE CURRENT FIRST QUARTER DATA. WE WILL MAINLY FOCUS ON THE TOP THREE REVENUE GENERATORS FOR THE GENERAL FUND, PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX, AND TRANSIT OCCUPANCY TAX. PROPERTY TAX IS 590,000 OR 14% HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR, MAINLY DUE TO THE INCREASES IN AIRCRAFT TAXES, EXPERIENCED THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS GROWTH AND ACCESSED VALUES IN CARLSBAD. ASSESSED VALUES FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR HAVE INCREASED OVERALL BY 5%. THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX IS RECEIVED IN DECEMBER AND APRIL OF EACH YEAR, SO APPROXIMATELY HALF OF OUR PROPERTY TAX WILL BE RECEIVED IN DECEMBER, WHICH IS IN THE SECOND QUARTER. MOVING ON TO SALES TAX, THERE'S A VERY SMALL DECREASE OF JUST 23,000 OR 0.1% WHEN COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. THE LARGEST ECONOMIC SEGMENTS IN THE CITY ARE AUTO DEALERS, CONSUMER GOODS, AND RESTAURANTS. TOGETHER, THEY GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 78% OF OUR SALES TAX REVENUES. FOR SALES OCCURRING IN THE SECOND CALENDAR QUARTER OF 2024, WHICH IS THE MOST RECENT DATA AVAILABLE, AUTO DEALERS SHOWED WEAKENED NEW CAR SALES, WHICH ARE LARGELY ATTRIBUTED TO THE CONTINUED HIGH INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT. RESULTING IN CONSUMERS HESITATING ON HIGH DOLLAR PURCHASES, LIKE VEHICLES. SOLID ACTIVITY FROM LOCAL RESTAURANTS PARTIALLY OFFSET THE DECLINES. FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 REVEALED A LEVELING OFF OF SALES TAX GROWTH, SLOWDOWN IN CONSUMER ACTIVITY. THIS LEVELING OFF CONTINUES INTO THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AS REVENUE TRENDS REMAIN SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN A YEAR AGO OVERALL. TRANSIT OCCUPANCY TAX OR TOT IS UP SLIGHTLY BY 450,000 OR 4%. AS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE ECONOMIC PORTION OF OUR PRESENTATION, OCCUPANCY RATES AS WELL AS THE AVERAGE DAILY ROOM RATES ARE SLIGHTLY HIGHER WHEN COMPARED TO THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. THE LAST SECTION ON THE SLIDE I'LL GO OVER IS INCOME FROM INVESTMENTS AND PROPERTIES UP 837,000 OR 49%. MUCH OF WHICH IS DRIVEN BY THE CITY'S INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO YIELD, INCREASING FROM 2.3-2.9, AS WELL AS INTEREST EARNED FISCAL YEAR TO DATE OF 716,000 ON THE CITY'S SECTION 115 PENSION TRUST. >> THEN MOVING ON OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE SIDE. THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, WE ADOPTED THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AT 238.5 MILLION, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A WORKING BUDGET OF 253.4 MILLION. THE WORKING BUDGET INCLUDES OPEN PURCHASE ORDERS AT THE END OF THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR THAT WERE CARRIED OVER INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR. AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, THERE'S A REMAINING BUDGET OF 172.3 MILLION OR 68%. THIS INCLUDES ALL ACTUAL EXPENSES THAT HAVE BEEN INCURRED AS WELL AS ALL OPEN CURRENT PURCHASE ORDERS. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE TOTAL OF GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBRANCES BY CATEGORY FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THE FIRST COLUMN SHOWS WHAT HAS BEEN BUDGETED FOR THE FULL FISCAL YEAR AND THE SECOND COLUMN SHOWS LAST YEAR'S ACTUALS FOR THE FIRST QUARTER. THE THIRD COLUMN SHOWS THIS YEAR'S ACTUALS FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR. PERSONNEL SHOWS AN INCREASE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR, WHICH WAS DRIVEN BY NEGOTIATED AND CONTRACTUAL SALARY AND BENEFIT INCREASES, AS WELL AS THE TIMING OF PAY PERIODS WHEN COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. WE ARE ONLY SLIGHTLY BIT HIGHER IN MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COSTS WHEN COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR WITH THE PRIOR YEAR AT 27.2 MILLION, AND THE CURRENT YEAR IS AT 27.9 MILLION. TRANSFERS FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO OTHER FUNDS ARE BUILT INTO THE ADOPTED BUDGET EVERY YEAR. THE MAJORITY OF WHICH ARE THE MOVEMENT OF FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE CITY'S CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS IN ACCORDANCE WITH COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 91, [03:30:03] THE CITY'S LONG TERM GENERAL FUND CAPITAL FUNDING POLICY, AND WE TRANSFER THOSE OUT EVENLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THIS SLIDE TAKES THE DATA FROM THE PREVIOUS BAR CHART AND SHOWS THE EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBRANCE DATA PRESENTED NUMERICALLY. ON THIS SLIDE, WE DO BREAK OUT THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURE SEPARATELY FROM THE OPEN PURCHASE ORDERS. YOU CAN SEE THAT AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE EXPENDED 27% OF OUR BUDGET AND HAVE 13 MILLION IN OPEN PURCHASE ORDERS. BRIEFLY TOUCHING ON SOME OF THE CITY'S LARGER ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WE HAVE WATER AND WASTEWATER. WHEN COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR'S FIRST QUARTER, WATER REVENUES AND EXPENSES ARE BOTH UP 7%. THE INCREASE IN WATER OPERATING REVENUE IS DUE TO A 6% INCREASE IN WATER VOLUME SALES COMBINED WITH AN INCREASE IN USER RATES THAT WAS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 2024. INCREASES IN EXPENSES IS MAINLY DUE TO BUDGETED NEGOTIATED SALARY ADJUSTMENTS AND THE TIMING OF PAY PERIODS, ALONG WITH AN 11% RATE INCREASE IN THE VARIABLE COST OF WATER PURCHASED FROM THE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY. WASTEWATER REVENUES ARE UP 24% AND EXPENSES ARE UP 32%. CHARGES FOR SERVICES ARE HIGHER THAN IN THE PRIOR YEAR, PRIMARILY DUE TO A 20% RATE INCREASE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY OF 2024. INCREASES IN WASTEWATER EXPENSES IS MAINLY DUE TO BUDGET AND NEGOTIATED SALARY ADJUSTMENTS AND THE TIMING OF PAY PERIODS AS WELL AS THE COST INCREASES IN CENA SERVICES AND AN INCREASE IN DEPRECIATION WHEN COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR AT THIS TIME. OUR FINAL ITEM IS THE GOLF COURSE. THE NET INCOME IS 400,000 HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME. COMPARATIVELY, THE GOLF COURSE EXPENSES ARE DOWN, WHICH IS MAINLY THE RESULT OF A PORTION OF THE TOTAL CAPITALIZED COST OF THE GOLF COURSE LAND IMPROVEMENTS BECOMING FULLY DEPRECIATING. MEANING, THERE IS NOW LESS DEPRECIATION EXPENSE IN THE CURRENT YEAR WHEN COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. PRIMARY OPERATING REVENUES AT THE COURSE HAVE REMAINED RELATIVELY CONSISTENT YEAR OVER YEAR. GENERAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS HAVE DECREASED OVER THE PRIOR PERIOD AS A RESULT OF THE COST OF SALES DECREASES IN THE PRO SHOP, AND A FOCUS ON LOWER MARGINS IN FOOD AND BEVERAGE, AS WELL AS LOWER CAPITAL OUTLAY COSTS THIS FISCAL YEAR WHEN COMPARED TO LAST. TO WRAP UP, STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. WE WILL PUBLISH ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL STATUS REPORTS TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AND WE PLAN TO RETURN TO COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY 2025 WITH OUR NEXT QUARTERLY UPDATE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? >> NO, WE DO NOT. >> QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 11, CITY MANAGER. [11. AMENDMENT OPTIONS TO CITY COUNCIL POLICY STATEMENT NO. 84, DEVELOPMENT PROJECT PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT POLICY (AMEND2024-0010 AND PUB17Y-0021)] >> YES. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS AMENDMENT OPTIONS TO CITY COUNCIL POLICY STATEMENT NUMBER 84, DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT POLICY. NOW, BEFORE JEFF BEGINS, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT ALTHOUGH THIS GREW OUT OF A MINUTE MOTION THAT IT CAME FROM CITY COUNCIL, WE DID SOMETHING SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL WHERE TYPICALLY, WE WAIT TO HAVE THIS DOETED FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD GIVE US DIRECTION. BUT WE'VE TAKEN THE LIBERTY TO TRY AND PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. FOR THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO MR. MURPHY. TAKE IT AWAY, JEFF. >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU TO CITY MANAGER AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL. DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING BACK IN SEPTEMBER 24TH, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS RAISED REGARDING THE TYPE AND LEVEL OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT REQUIRED ON A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT PROPOSED IN THE VILLAGE. THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY 84 SETS FORTH THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE A DECISION FROM EITHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL. FOLLOWING ACTION ON THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED A MINUTE MOTION DIRECTING STAFF TO RETURN ON NOVEMBER 12TH WITH A DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE OPTIONS TO STRENGTHEN THE POLICY AND DECISION MAKING PROCESS. THE STAFF REPORT PROVIDES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION THAT CAN MODIFY POLICY 84 TO HELP ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED. CONSIDERING THE CITY COUNCIL URGENCY AND HAVING THIS ITEM RETURNED FOR DISCUSSION, STAFF HAS INCLUDED A RESOLUTION THAT INCORPORATES ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ADOPT IF IT SO CHOOSES. ADOPTED IN 2017, THE PURPOSE OF POLICY 84 IS TO MAKE AFFECTED STAKEHOLDERS AWARE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS BEING CONSIDERED AND TO OFFER A MECHANISM TO ALLOW FOR COMMUNITY INPUT. THE POLICY INCLUDES TWO TYPES OF NOTICING REQUIREMENTS DEPENDING ON WHETHER THE PROJECT IS CONSIDERED A SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT OR NOT. SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS ARE SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ENHANCED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WHICH INCLUDE DETAILED PROJECT DESCRIPTION, MAILINGS, A POSTED SIGN, AND SELECTION OF EITHER A PUBLIC MEETING, A WEBSITE, OR A SURVEY. [03:35:01] WHILE NON SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS OR MINOR PROJECTS ARE SUBJECT TO WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS EARLY PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE MAILING AND A POSTED SIGN. MOST OF THE AMENDMENT OPTIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT FOCUS ON THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ENHANCED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, STARTING WITH WHAT TYPE OF PROJECT QUALIFIES AS SIGNIFICANT. ON THIS CHART, THE LEFT COLUMN REFLECTS THE CURRENT POLICY WHILE THE RIGHT COLUMN REFLECTS HOW THE CURRENT POLICY COULD BE CHANGED. AN OPTION TO CONSIDER IS REDUCING THE THRESHOLD FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS FROM 50 UNITS DOWN TO 10. THIS WILL INCREASE AWARENESS ON THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS THAT CAN JUST BE AS CONCERNING AND CHALLENGING TO THE COMMUNITY AS THE LARGER ONES. THIS CONCEPT CAN ALSO APPLY TO MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT PROPOSE A COMBINATION OF RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL USES. AS SUCH, A CONSIDERATION IS TO ELIMINATE THE SIZE THRESHOLD AND REQUIRE ANY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, IRRESPECTIVE OF UNIT COUNT OR RETAIL SIZE TO BE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT AND SUBJECT TO THE ENHANCED STANDARDS. TO SHOW THE IMPLICATION OF THESE CHANGES, WE LOOKED AT PERMIT ACTIVITY OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, WHERE A TOTAL OF 82 PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT APPLICATIONS WERE PROCESSED AND SUBJECT TO POLICY 84. UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY, 18% OF THE PROJECTS WERE SUBJECT TO THE ENHANCED STANDARDS. HOWEVER, IF WE APPLIED THE PROPOSED POLICY CHANGES TO THE SAME 82 PROJECTS, WE SEE THAT 33% OF THE PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TRIGGERED THE ENHANCED PUBLIC OUTREACH REQUIREMENTS. THIS MEANS THAT WITH THE PROPOSED POLICY CHANGES ALMOST TWICE AS MANY PROJECTS WOULD REQUIRE ENHANCED ENGAGEMENT OVER CURRENT STANDARDS. A QUESTION THE PUBLIC MAY BE ASKING IS WHAT IS A NON-SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT? WHEN LOOKING AT THE PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT WOULD NOT TRIGGER THE ENHANCED ENGAGEMENT STANDARDS EVEN WITH THE POLICY CHANGES, WE FIND THAT MOST OF THE PROJECTS THAT FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SMALL COMMERCIAL USES SUCH AS THE NEW SHOW ROOM OVER AT PREMIER CADILLAC, AND THE NEW TRASH ENCLOSURE OVER ON STARBUCKS. HOWEVER, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE THESE PROJECT TYPES ARE NOT CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT, STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN 600 FEET OF THE PROJECT WILL STILL BE NOTICED BY MAIL, AND A PROJECT SIGN WILL STILL BE INSTALLED. WITH THE CHANGES ON WHAT PROJECTS REQUIRE AND ENHANCED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, I WANT TO NOW DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION ON THE ENHANCED ENGAGEMENT CONTENT AND WHO WILL RECEIVE THAT CONTENT. UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY, PROJECT OWNERS OR PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 600 FEET OF THE PROJECT SITE RECEIVES A MAILED NOTICE. AN AMENDMENT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IS TO REQUIRE THAT BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS AND OCCUPANTS WITHIN THE 600 FOOT RADIUS RECEIVE THE NOTICE. HOLDING A PUBLIC MEETING IS A VALUABLE TOOL TO ENGAGE AND SOLICIT COMMUNITY INPUT. THE COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER CHANGING POLICY TO REQUIRE THAT AT LEAST ONE PUBLIC MEETING BE REQUIRED. NOW, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE STATE HOUSING LAWS LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC MEETINGS ON HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO ONLY FIVE. THE STATE CONSIDERS CITY REQUIRED PUBLIC MEETINGS SUCH AS THIS AS ONE OF THOSE FIVE. LIKE PUBLIC MEETINGS, MAINTAINING A PROJECT WEBSITE IS ONLY AN OPTION, AND THE CURRENT POLICY DOESN'T PROVIDE A LOT OF DISCRETION OR DIRECTION ON WHAT THAT WEBSITE'S CONTENT SHOULD BE. THE POLICY COULD BE IMPROVED BY MANDATING THAT THE WEBSITE BE MAINTAINED AND REQUIRING THAT THE SAME CONTENT PROVIDED IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE BE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE. PROJECT SIGNS ARE ANOTHER AREA OF EXPRESSED CONCERN, WHERE THE CURRENT POLICY SIMPLY REQUIRES THAT THE SIGN BE POSTED IN THE MOST VISIBLE LOCATION ON A SITE. AN AMENDMENT OPTION TO CONSIDER IS TO REQUIRE THAT THE SIGN BE FREESTANDING, NOT A FIXED TO A BUILDING, NOT AFFIXED TO A FENCE, AND LOCATED ON ALL PUBLIC STREETS. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE PROPERTY IS ON THE CORNER, A SIGN WILL BE LOCATED ON BOTH STREETS. THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION REQUIRED IN A MAILING PACKETS IS ANOTHER AREA OF CONCERN WHERE THE EXISTING POLICY DOES NOT PROVIDE A LOT OF SPECIFICITY OR DIRECTION ON WHAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE INCLUDED. AN OPTION TO CONSIDER IS TO AMEND THE POLICY TO PROVIDE THAT SPECIFICITY. FOR EXAMPLE, IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING THE PUBLIC WITH BASIC PROJECT DETAILS LIKE PROJECT NAME, CASE NUMBERS, AND POINTS OF CONTACT, THE POLICY CAN BE AMENDED TO REQUIRE MORE PROJECT DETAILS SUCH AS INFO ON NEW PARKING SPACES, PROPOSED DEVIATIONS FROM CITY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND ESTIMATED PROJECT SCHEDULE. THE POLICY COULD SPECIFY THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, THE MAILING PACKET MUST INCLUDE NOT JUST THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED, BUT HOW MANY MARKET RATE UNITS ARE PROPOSED COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS PROPOSED, AND WHAT WILL BE THE SIZE RANGES FOR BOTH PRODUCT TYPES. BECAUSE MEASURING HEIGHT USING NUMBERS OF STORIES CAN BE MISLEADING, THE POLICY COULD ALSO REQUIRE THAT BUILDING HEIGHT BE SHOWN IN BOTH STORIES AND IN HEIGHT. FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, THE POLICY COULD REQUIRE THAT THE PROJECT NOTICE INCLUDE TOTAL NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS PROPOSED, [03:40:03] THE SIZE OF EACH, THE HEIGHT OF EACH, AND THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF EACH. FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE MIXED USE, BOTH STANDARDS WOULD APPLY. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER THE OPTIONS DESCRIBED THE STAFF REPORT AND THIS PRESENTATION. IF THE CITY COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THE PROPOSED CHANGES, THEY HAVE ALL BEEN INCLUDED IN THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ADOPT THIS EVENING, OR THE CITY COUNCIL CAN PROVIDE STAFF WITH DIFFERENT DIRECTION. BASED ON THE QUICK COMPARISON OF NOTICING REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THE CITY'S CURRENT POLICY ALIGNS CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER CITIES. SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE DRAFT RESOLUTION, CARLSBAD WOULD BE SETTING THE NEW STANDARD FOR PUBLIC AWARENESS IN THIS REGION. THE CITY COUNCIL MAY ALSO NOTE THAT THE EFFECTIVE DATE ON THE RESOLUTION IS LISTED AS DECEMBER 9TH. THIS IS TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO UPDATE THE FORMS AND TEMPLATES THAT WILL ULTIMATELY HELP APPLICANTS ENSURE THAT THEIR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PACKET COMPLIES WITH THE NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT ARE SET FOR IN THE UPDATED POLICY 1984. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? >> YES, MAYOR WE DO. STEVE LINKY, FOLLOWED BY CHRIS WRIGHT. >> I HAD SOME SLIDES IN THIS TOO. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EXPEDITING THIS. THANKS VERY MUCH TO STAFF. I OBVIOUSLY TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ELUA, AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT WE SEE. I JUST HAVE A FEW ADDITIONAL THINGS WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS. THE TRIGGER FOR A NON-RESIDENTIAL NON MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS CURRENTLY SET AT 50,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WE FEEL IS A BIT TOO HIGH. FOR EXAMPLE, CARLSBAD VILLAGE MIXED USE IS REPLACING THE MALL, IT'S 65,000 SQUARE FEET. WE THINK THAT SHOULD BE REDUCED OR GIVE STAFF DISCRETION TO DECIDE ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS WHETHER A PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN. IN THE MAILED NOTICE IS, VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT'S IN THERE. WE'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD WHETHER THE UNITS ARE FOR LEASE FOR SALE, AND THEN A COMPARISON BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY MAXIMUM IS AND WHAT THE DENSITY BONUS LAW IS ALLOWING THEM TO DO. ALSO ON THE MAILED NOTICES, VERY MINOR THING, IT SAYS THE PROPERTY LINE. WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE BOUNDING PROPERTY LINES TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T SELECT SOME ARBITRARY SINGLE PROPERTY LINE. SIGN LOCATION, I'M VERY PLEASED THAT FOR LARGER PROJECTS, THEY'LL BE POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE SIGNS ON EACH STREET FRONTAGE. AGAIN, THOUGH, CONCERNED THAT IF IT'S ON THE STREET FRONTAGE, PEOPLE MIGHT DRIVE PAST THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE PLAZA, PEOPLE WOULD DRIVE PAST THE SIGN AND PARK IN THE PARKING LOT AND NOT SEE IT. AGAIN, STAFF MAY BE GIVEN DISCRETION TO DECIDE, MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON WHERE THAT SIGN SHOULD GO. PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS. I'M CONCERNED IF THESE MEETINGS ARE GOING TO COUNT TOWARDS THE FIVE MEETING LIMIT. BUT FOR THE MUCH LARGER PROJECTS LIKE 50 OR MORE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WE FEEL THAT GIVING PEOPLE THE OPTION OF AT LEAST TWO IN PERSON MEETINGS WILL BE BETTER WITH THE CAVEAT ABOUT USING UP TWO OF THE MEETINGS. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PROJECT CHANGES THAT WE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A FEW ADDITIONAL CRITERIA IF THE PROJECT CHANGES THAT WILL TRIGGER A SUPPLEMENTAL ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. INSTEAD OF JUST 20% INCREASE IN THE SIZE, IF IT'S 10 OR MORE UNITS, IF IT'S A NON-RESIDENTIAL, ADDING 10,000 OR MORE SQUARE FEET OR ADDING MORE PARKING, AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY, IF THERE'S A NEW DEVIATION FROM A CITY ADOPTED DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, FOR EXAMPLE. IF THE ORIGINAL ENGAGEMENT WAS DONE BEFORE A HEIGHT LIMIT WAS EXCEEDED, WE'D LIKE THAT TO ALSO TRIGGER THE NEED FOR RE-CONTACTING THE PUBLIC AND ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO MAJOR AMENITY. THEN FINALLY, IDEALLY, THERE'D BE A CITY INTERACTIVE DASHBOARD FOR THESE TYPES OF NOTIFICATIONS. BUT AT A MINIMUM, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE MAILED NOTICES POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND ANY ENHANCED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT REPORTS ALSO TO BE POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE, AND THEN USE THE MAILING LIST SYSTEM SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP TO GET COPIES OF THESE. THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS WRIGHT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL AND STAFF. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING TONIGHT THE CHANGE IN THE ENHANCED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT POLICY 84. CURRENTLY, AFTER GOING THROUGH THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE MALL THAT WAS APPROVED RECENTLY. [03:45:07] WE REALLY FOUND THAT THIS POLICY IS INADEQUATE AND IT NEEDS MODIFICATION. I'VE READ AND APPROVED ALL PROPOSED AMENDMENTS SUGGESTED IN THE TONIGHT'S STAFF PRESENTATION, AND I AGREE WITH MR. LINKY AS WELL. ONE THING THAT IS MISSING IS THAT THERE ARE MANY RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS THAT LIVE BEYOND THE 600 FOOT WRITTEN NOTIFICATION AREA. THERE IS AN EMAIL SIGN UP LIST ONLINE THAT HAS BEEN FAULTY IN THE PAST DUE TO SOFTWARE SHORTCOMINGS AND TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. THIS WAS THE CASE WAS THE RECENTLY APPROVED CARLSBAD VILLAGE PLAZA MIXED USE PROJECT. THOSE OF US WHO LIVE BEYOND THE 600 FEET, WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO DIRECT STAFF TO CREATE A VOLUNTARY EMAIL SIGN UP LIST SPECIFICALLY FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE DETERMINED TO BE ENHANCED OUTREACH PROJECTS. OTHERWISE, THOSE OF US THAT SOMEHOW ARE UNAWARE OF THESE PROJECTS, THOSE OF US THAT LIVE FURTHER AWAY MAY NEVER KNOW ABOUT A PROJECT, ESPECIALLY EVIDENCED BY THE 10 DAYS SECRET TIME PERIOD ON CERTAIN INFILL PROJECTS. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WERE NO COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE PLAZA MIXED USE, MOST LIKELY BECAUSE NO ONE KNEW ABOUT IT. I WAS ONE OF THOSE WHO SIGNED UP FOR THE PLANNING NOTIFICATION, BUT NEVER RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THIS EMAIL SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE RE EXAMINED, SO THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO COMMENT AND BE INVOLVED. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF BEING MORE, WE'D REALLY LIKE IT IF THE CITY COULD CHANGE THIS POLICY SO THAT IT CAN HELP RESIDENTS BE AWARE OF THE PROJECTS. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. MY QUICK QUESTION IS, I LIKE THE IDEA OF SOMEWHERE IN THE PACKET DESCRIBING IF A PROJECT HAS A DENSITY BONUS AND WHAT A DENSITY BONUS IS. IT MIGHT ALLEVIATE A LOT OF PHONE CALLS OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT WHY IT'S SO BIG OF A PROJECT. WOULD IT BE EASY TO INCORPORATE THAT OR WOULD THAT BE PRETTY CUMBERSOME? >> THE REASON I'M PAUSING IS I MIGHT NEED CITY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE ON THIS, BUT ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS WE CANNOT TREAT DENSITY BONUS PROJECT, IT'S DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER SUBDIVISION PROJECTS. THAT'S MY LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN YOU HIGHLIGHT DENSITY BONUS PROJECTS. I DON'T BELIEVE IN THIS CASE, WE'RE JUST IDENTIFYING WHAT IS YOUR BASE DENSITY, AND THEN WHAT ARE THE DENSITY BONUS UNITS ADDITIONAL UNITS. IT'S DESCRIBING THE PROJECT JUST IN WAYS OF DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN WHETHER IT'S CITY MAXIMUM DENSITY UNITS VERSUS DENSITY BONUS. I'M NOT SEEING AN ISSUE, BUT I WANT TO DEFER TO CITY ATTORNEYS IF THEY'RE SEE ANY LEGAL ISSUES WITH INCLUDING THAT. >> JUST UNDERSTANDING THE MAYOR TO ASK THAT WEBSITES OR WHATEVER INCLUDE A EXPLANATION OF WHAT A DENSITY BONUS IS. >> IF A PROJECT HAS A 50% DENSITY BONUS, THAT THAT BE DISCLOSED AND WHY AND WHAT THE DENSITY BONUS IS. WOULD THAT BE TOO CUMBERSOME FOR THE OUTREACH? >> IT WOULDN'T BE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN INFORMATION BULLETIN AND WE CAN TELL THE APPLICANTS TO LINK TO THAT INFORMATION BULLETIN AND DESCRIBING WHAT DENSITY BONUS IS. IT'S WHEN WE GET INTO THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING IN TERMS OF DENSITY BONUS IS WHERE I WANT TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEYS. IF THEY'RE LEGALLY IS THERE ON THE ISSUE, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE IN TERMS OF PROCESSING IT. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INPUT, MISS BURKHOLDER. >> SORRY. THANK YOU. ON THE POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS, PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETING BEING REQUIRED, THAT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST OUR FIVE MEETINGS, YES OR NO? >> IT DOES COUNT. >> THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. THEN WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HAVING, LIKE, I THINK MR. LINKY WAS TALKING ABOUT, IF THERE ARE CHANGES OR SOMETHING, THEN WE HAVE MORE OUTREACH TO PEOPLE IN THE VERSION OF MAILERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. HOW LONG WOULD THAT GO? I THINK AT SOME POINT, YOU GOT TO SAY THAT'S IT. WE GET IT ENOUGH SO I THINK ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE A MEETING, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT AND KEEP THAT IN THERE. I GUESS MY CONCERN IS MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THAT THERE ARE A TOTAL OF FIVE ON CERTAIN PROJECTS. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE AND THEY KNOW THAT AND THEY BEING THE PUBLIC AS WELL. WE'RE ASSUMING THE DEVELOPER WOULD KNOW THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I HAD A LOT OF THAT ON SEPTEMBER 24, I THINK WAS THE DATE. [03:50:04] WELL, WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING COUNTED AGAINST ONE OF THE FIVE MEETINGS THING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF WE COULD BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, I DO THINK THAT WILL HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND TOO. THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY ONLY FEEDBACK. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. >> I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT. IF WE ASK A DEVELOPER TO DO SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS, CAN THEY ARBITRARILY DO FIVE MEETINGS AND THEN TELL US WE CAN'T THEN HAVE ANY MEETINGS? >> NO, THE STATE LAW STIPULATES THAT IT'S CITY MANDATED MEETINGS SO A MANDATE MEETING THEN YOU HAVE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND IN THIS CASE, IF THE POLICY IS ADOPTED, THE ONE PUBLIC MEETING. IF THE APPLICANT AND WE DO ENCOURAGE MORE MEETINGS THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED IN THE POLICY BUT IF THEY DECIDE TO DO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, THOSE ARE ON THEIR OWN, THOSE MEETINGS DON'T COUNT AGAINST THE FUND. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP FOR ME. MISS ACOSTA. >> THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY LINE, LIKE THE 600 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE BOUNDING PROPERTY LINES. DID YOU LOOK INTO THAT AND WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT? >> WE DID LOOK AT THAT. WE HAVE NOT RUN INTO AN ISSUE WHERE IT WAS MEASURED FROM ANYWHERE OTHER THAN THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINES THAT COVER THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT SITE SO I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE. AGAIN, BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE, WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT SITUATION. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. FOR THE FREE STANDING SIGN OR NOTICE THAT IS VISIBLE, I'M JUST THINKING LIKE, MAYBE IT'S ON A CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT'S NOT FREE STANDING SO WHAT'S THE EASY SOLUTION TO THAT? >> SO WHAT THE POLICY IS STIPULATING IS YOU CANNOT PUT THE SIGNS WHEN IT'S ENHANCED, YOU CANNOT PUT THE SIGN ON A FENCE OR ON A BUILDING. IT HAS TO BE FREE STANDING, SO IT NEEDS TO BE ON A POLE. >> LIKE A POLE. I WAS THINKING LIKE A YARD SIGN A STICK. >> NO. BECAUSE THE SIGNS ARE PRETTY LARGE, USUALLY THEY'RE LIKE A FOUR BY FOUR POST THAT THEY USE. >> HOPEFULLY THEY'RE LARGE BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE ONE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THE SUSHI PLACE SEEMED SMALLER. THANK YOU. >> I'M GOING TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE FOR A SECOND. FOLLOWING UP ON COUNCIL MEMBER COSTA'S COMMENT, IT SAYS, SIGN REQUIRED ALONG ALL PUBLIC STREETS THAT FRONT THE SITE. SIGNS MUST BE FREE STANDING. LET'S SAY WE HAVE BUSY STREETS, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER AREA MAYBE ON THE SIDE. DOES THIS PRECLUDE THEM, BUT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THEM TO PUT ANOTHER SIGN THERE? >> IT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THEM TO PUT MORE SIGNS. [OVERLAPPING] IT WOULD REQUIRE IF IT'S A CORNER WHERE YOU HAVE TWO PUBLIC STREETS, IT FRONTS TWO PUBLIC STREETS, THE POLICY WOULD REQUIRE THAT YOU HAVE A SIGN ON EACH OF THOSE TWO STREETS. >> THIS IS IN ADDITION TO? >> CORRECT. RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT POLICY IS YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE ONE SIGN. >> BUT THE WAY THAT IT READS, I DON'T READ THAT. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR POSSIBLE AMENDMENT, IT SAYS SIGN REQUIRED ALONG ALL PUBLIC STREETS THAT FRONT THE SITE. MAYBE THE LANGUAGE IN THE ACTUAL POLICY IS CLEAR, BUT THE WAY THAT I READ IT IS WELL, MR. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, I PUT MY SIGNS ALONG THE PUBLIC STREETS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M ON A DIFFERENT PAGE. IT DOESN'T HAVE THE PAGE ON HERE. IT'S UNDER THE ENHANCED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE YOU GUYS GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN. MAYBE 13 OR 42, JEFF. >> HERE IT IS. >> LOCATION HERE. >> IT SAYS SIGN SHALL NOT A FIXED TO AN EXISTING STRUCTURE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE CAN TAKE UMBRAGE WITH YOU. I WANT TO TAKE AWAY AS MUCH ISSUE THAT COULD COME UP. >> IS THERE A PARTICULAR CONCERN WITH THIS? >> NO, I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THIS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY JUST DON'T THINK THAT THEY CAN POST TWO SIGNS IF IT FRONTS A PUBLIC STREET, BUT THEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY OTHER SIGNAGE ON THAT PROPERTY. [03:55:07] BECAUSE IT'S TWO BUSY STREETS. MAYBE PEOPLE MIGHT NOT SEE IT. >> THIS POLICY WOULDN'T PRECLUDE THEM TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL SIGNS. IT JUST THIS IS ESTABLISHING THE MINIMUM. >> RIGHT. I DON'T THINK I LIKE THE MINIMUM. BECAUSE I THINK THAT EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY CAN POST TWO BUSY STREETS ON ONE SIDE AND ONE OTHER SIDE, AND MAYBE SOME LANGUAGE THAT SAYS NOT LIMITED TO OR SOMETHING. WELL, NO, BUT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE PRETTY BIG, AND IT DEPENDS. WELL, IF YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT, I'M NOT THEN. LET ME GO THE PAGE 9 OF 42, ON THE EARLY PUBLIC NOTICE, YOU'VE GOT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A 600 FOOT RADIUS AND THEN OCCUPANTS WITHIN 100 FOOT RADIUS. IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T DO WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE ENHANCED IN SAYING OCCUPANTS AS WELL FOR A 600 FOOT RADIUS? >> THAT'S FOR THE EARLY PUBLIC NOTICE. THOSE ARE THE MINOR PROJECTS SO THEY STILL GET NOTICED, THEY STILL GET PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 600 FEET. THE ONE THING WE ARE PROPOSING A CHANGE IS THAT IN THE COASTAL ZONE, OCCUPANTS WITHIN 100 FEET OF THE PROJECT ALSO GET NOTIFIED. WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT YOU MAKE THAT CITYWIDE SO PROPERTY OWNERS ARE STILL 600 FEET AND THEN WITHIN 100 FEET AGAIN, THESE ARE THE SMALLER MINOR PROJECTS, AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE A LITTLE LESSER THRESHOLD IN TERMS OF. >> DO YOU NEED US TO ADD THAT TO A MOTION IF WE WANT THE CITY'S COASTAL ZONE TO ALSO REFLECT THAT SAME 100 FOOT OCCUPANT OR DO YOU ALREADY HAVE IT INCORPORATED? >> IT'S ALREADY IN THE RESOLUTION. >> BECAUSE THE STAFF REPORTS WRITTEN, IT SAYS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STANDARDIZE. >> IT WAS WRITTEN THAT WAY BECAUSE STAFF DIDN'T WANT TO PRESUME THAT YOU WANTED TO DO THESE AND THE DIRECTION WAS ACTUALLY TO BRING BACK OPTIONS. >> IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN? >> CORRECT. I'M SORRY. ALL THE OPTIONS THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN THE STAFFY PART ARE INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION. >> THE 600 FEET, IS IT STATE PLAN? THERE WAS A QUESTION AS TO WHY THE RADIUS WE SET UP IS 600. >> IT WAS EFFECTIVELY DOUBLE WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES [OVERLAPPING] >> THERE IT IS 300. CORRECT. THANK YOU. GREAT JOB. >> THANK YOU. >> IS EVERYBODY HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN? >> YEAH. MAY I PLEASE MAKE THE MOTION SINCE. >> YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION PLEASE. >> I MOVE TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION AMENDING CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 84 TO CLARIFY EXISTING REQUIREMENTS FOR STANDARD PUBLIC NOTICING WHILE EXPANDING REQUIREMENTS FOR ENHANCED PUBLIC NOTICING FOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, REQUIRING APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR COUNCIL MEETING, MISS LUNA, ANYTHING? [COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS] >> YES. CONSIDERING TONIGHT'S TOPIC ON THE CAP, I THINK IT'S HIGH TIME THAT WE HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR BEACH PRESERVATION COMMISSION. IT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT FOR OVER A YEAR, BUT THIS COMMISSION IS ONLY FOCUSED ON THE BEACH. IT'D BE NICE IF WE MOVED INTO THE 21ST CENTURY BY COMBINING OUR ONLY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND ENHANCING THIS COMMISSION INTO A SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. >> SECOND. >> STAFF SHOULD BRING US BACK A MISSION STATEMENT, AS WELL AS A LIST OF SPECIFIC DUTIES THIS COMMISSION WOULD PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON. >> QUICK CLARIFICATION. YOU'RE ASKING THIS TO BE WITHIN THE BEACH COMMISSION, A SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION WITHIN. >> YES. [INAUDIBLE] >> OH, I LOVE THIS. THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU. >> MISS BHAT-PATEL. >> I'M GUESSING THIS IS COMING BACK FOR DISCUSSION. THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO. >> ALSO, TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT A COMMISSION WITHIN A COMMISSION, IT'S EXPANDING A COMMISSION AND RELABELING IT SO ALL THE DETAILS WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. >> I'D LIKE TO DIRECT STAFF TO RETURN AT A FUTURE DATE WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO CONSOLIDATE, ENHANCE WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE THE BEACH PRESERVATION COMMISSION INTO A SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION? >> I SECONDED AND I AGREE. THE SECOND IS MODIFIED FOR WHATEVER SHE JUST ADDED. THANK THE LORD. AWESOME. THANKS. >> ANY MORE COMMENTS? PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MISS BURKHOLDER ANYTHING? >> YES, THIS MORNING, WE HAD THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE. COUNCIL MEMBER COSTA AND I WENT THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM. [04:00:03] WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, AND I'M SURE SHE WILL EXPAND ON SOME OF THAT. THANK YOU. >> MISS ACOSTA. >> THANK YOU. I'M VERY TIRED. I WASN'T PLANNING ON TALKING TOO MUCH ABOUT IT. I WAS HOPING YOU'D TAKE IT, BUT WE HAD ALMOST 3 HOURS OF LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE THIS MORNING. WE WALKED THROUGH THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM THAT WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE FULL COUNCIL. WE TALKED ABOUT LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS, FUNDING IDEAS. IT WAS A VERY ROBUST MEETING. WE ALSO HAD A PRESENTATION FROM HCD. WE TALKED ABOUT THE WINDSOR POINT LETTER THAT COUNCIL DIRECTED OUR SUBCOMMITTEE TO TAKE UP, AND WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN DECEMBER BECAUSE MANY OF COMMENTS THAT WE MADE THROUGH OUR CONVERSATION AT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL REQUIRE SOME STAFF REFINEMENTS SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE IN DECEMBER BEFORE IT COMES TO THE FULL COUNCIL IN JANUARY. IT WAS VERY BUSY. THANK YOU. >> MISS BHAT-PATEL. I HAVE ONE NOTICE WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 2024 AT 4:00 PM WORLD KINDNESS DAY YOUTH PEP RALLY BE HELD AT THE CARLSBAD STRAWBERRY COMPANY, 1050 CANNON ROAD IN CARLSBAD, CITY MANAGER. CITY ATTORNEY. >> NOTHING. THANK YOU. >> CITY CLERK. >> NOTHING THANK YOU. >> WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.