May 13, 2025 City Council Meeting

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IT'S 5:00. I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE TAKE ROLL.

[CALL TO ORDER]

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

NEXT IS PRESENTATIONS. I INVITE MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN TO PRESENT TO CULTURAL ARTS MANAGER

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CRADDOCK STROPES. NO WORRIES. SO MISS STROPES, IF I COULD INVITE YOU TO THE PODIUM.

AND THEN I'LL SAY A FEW WORDS, AND THEN MR. SHIN WILL SAY A FEW WORDS AND THEN PASS IT OFF TO YOU.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. AND AS WE GATHER, TO RECOGNIZE ASIAN AMERICAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE MONTH, I AM FILLED WITH IMMENSE PRIDE AND DEEP GRATITUDE, NOT ONLY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT AS A DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS, A MOTHER, AND A MEMBER OF THE AAPI COMMUNITY.

THIS PROCLAMATION IS MORE THAN JUST A FORMAL RECOGNITION.

IT'S A MOMENT TO HONOR THE GENERATIONS OF ASIAN AMERICANS AND PACIFIC ISLANDERS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE FABRIC OF THIS NATION, INCLUDING RIGHT HERE IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

FROM SMALL BUSINESSES AND TEACHERS TO HEALTHCARE WORKERS AND PUBLIC SERVANTS, THE AAPI COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO SHAPE THE HEART AND SOUL OF OUR CITY AND COUNTY.

GROWING UP, I DIDN'T SEE FACES LIKE MINE IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS OR IN THE STORIES WE CELEBRATED.

BUT TODAY THAT'S CHANGING AND THIS MONTH REMINDS US HOW IMPORTANT REPRESENTATION IS.

IT ALSO REMINDS US OF THE CHALLENGES OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE FACED, AND AS WE CARRY FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD, THOSE EXPERIENCES HAVE SHAPED US. SO FOR ME, AAPI HERITAGE MONTH IS ABOUT HONORING OUR ANCESTORS RESILIENCE AND CELEBRATING THE BEAUTY OF OUR CULTURE THROUGH LANGUAGE, FOOD, ART, TRADITION AND VALUES.

AND IT'S ALSO ABOUT MAKING SPACE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, WHO I SEE HERE WITH US TO LEAD WITH CONFIDENCE, KNOWING THEIR IDENTITY IS A STRENGTH. SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND PASS IT OFF TO MR. SHIN. THANK YOU. EVERYONE HERE GETS TO BE MY THERAPIST FOR ABOUT FIVE SECONDS.

SO GROWING UP, I REMEMBER MY PARENTS ARE KOREAN.

THEY IMMIGRATED HERE, AND I USED TO BE EMBARRASSED BECAUSE THE SMELL OF OUR FRIDGE WITH ALL THE KIMCHI THE K-DRAMA THAT WAS GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND AND THE LANGUAGE WE SPOKE WAS JUST DIFFERENT THAN THE MAINSTREAM.

AND I WAS EMBARRASSED. I WAS I FELT RESENTFUL THAT I HAD TO GROW UP IN THIS WAY AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS MAINSTREAM.

AND IT'S JUST CRAZY NOW, LOOKING AT IT WITH ALL THE PERSEVERANCE OF US JUST MAINTAINING THE HERITAGE AND THE CULTURE, THAT EVERYTHING'S GONE MAINSTREAM WITH THE KOREAN CULTURE, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, K-POP IS A BIG THING. THE K-DRAMA THAT I AM ANNOYED WITH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IS EVERYWHERE. LIKE ON NETFLIX AND ANY RESTAURANT YOU GO TO, YOU BASICALLY SEE A PART OF OUR CUISINE THERE.

AND THAT WAS A PART OF WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE AND SOMETHING THAT I FEEL FULL CIRCLE WITH YOU, CRADDOCK, IS THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I CREATED THE ASIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER FESTIVAL IN OCEANSIDE, AND ALL THAT HEART AND EFFORT THAT WE DID JUST BROUGHT THIS BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE WHERE PEOPLE CAN REALLY EXPERIENCE WHO WE ARE.

I FEEL LIKE NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO I'LL TAKE A STEP BACK.

SO HAVING BEEN IN THE MARINE CORPS AND AS A DEFENSE CONTRACTOR AND GOING OVERSEAS TO THE MIDDLE EAST, WHICH IS A PART OF THE ASIAN CONTINENT. YOU DO STUFF THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO UNBRIDGE THINGS, AND I FEEL LIKE THE ONLY WAY TO BRIDGE THINGS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU HAVE.

YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID THAT CREATED PEOPLE TO HAVE US GO MAINSTREAM AND BE CONNECTED WAS BECAUSE OF THE ARTS, THE CULINARY ARTS, THE MUSICAL ARTS, THE PERFORMANCE ARTS.

SO YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS FAR GREATER THAN JUST CRAYONS AND DRAWING PICTURES OF THE OCEAN AND WHATNOT.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT BRIDGING AND CONNECTING PEOPLE AND EXPERIENCES THAT THERE'S NO OTHER WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT OTHER THAN THOSE ASPECTS.

SO HAVING KIDS THAT ARE PERSIAN RIGHT NOW, I JUST SEE THAT.

I SEE THE THE NEXT STEP NOW WE HAVE WE HAVE MY CULTURE THAT'S NOW GONE MAINSTREAM.

AND NOW I CHALLENGE YOU TO BE ABLE TO BRING A CULTURE THAT FEELS SO DIVIDED SOMETIMES AND ACTUALLY BRING THEM TO HEART.

SO I HOPE YOU CAN DO THAT. WE'RE TOTALLY SUPPORTING YOU WITH THAT.

ON THAT NOTE, I'LL READ THE PROCLAMATION. SO THIS PROCLAMATION FOR THE ASIAN AMERICAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE MONTH OF MAY OF 2025.

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AND WHEREAS, AMERICAN, ASIAN AMERICAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE RECOGNITION IN THE UNITED STATES BEGAN IN 1978 AND WAS MADE INTO A MONTH LONG AWARENESS EVENT IN 1992 TO HONOR OUR DYNAMIC IMMIGRANT AND NATIVE COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEREAS ASIAN AMERICAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER CULTURES HAVE SHARED THEIR STORIES AND TRADITIONS WHILE REPRESENTING THEIR COMMUNITIES THROUGH PUBLIC SERVICE AND ADVOCACY. AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS COMMITTED TO CELEBRATING THE IMPORTANCE OF INCLUSION AND TO COMMEMORATE THE VITAL CONTRIBUTIONS, SACRIFICES AND ACHIEVEMENTS THAT ASIAN AMERICANS, NATIVE HAWAIIANS AND PACIFIC ISLANDER PEOPLE HAVE MADE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I COUNCIL MEMBER KEVIN SHIN, ALONG WITH MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY 2025 AS ASIAN AMERICAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR RECOGNIZING ASIAN AMERICAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE MONTH IN CARLSBAD.

REPRESENTATION DOES MATTER, SO IT'S WITH GREAT PRIDE THAT THE ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY CAN SEE OURSELVES REFLECTED IN TWO OF OUR FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR USING YOUR VOICES TO INSPIRE THE NEXT GENERATION OF AAPI LEADERS AND INSPIRE A LOVE OF PUBLIC SERVICE.

ACCORDING TO THE MOST RECENT CENSUS FIGURES, ABOUT 10% OF CARLSBAD'S POPULATION IDENTIFIES AS BEING OF ASIAN OR PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE, WHICH IS ALSO REFLECTED IN THE CITY'S WORKFORCE, FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS, TO HUMAN RESOURCES, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, PARKS AND RECREATION, AND PUBLIC WORKS.

OUR CITY EMPLOYEES OF ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE DEMONSTRATE OUR SHARED CULTURAL VALUES OF SERVICE AND COMMUNITY ABOVE ALL ELSE.

EACH YEAR, A GROUP OF AAPI EMPLOYEES AND ALLIES HAVE ORGANIZED LUNAR NEW YEAR AND AAPI HERITAGE MONTH CELEBRATIONS TO SHARE OUR CULTURAL TRADITIONS, LANGUAGE, AND FOOD WITH ALL CITY EMPLOYEES IN THE HOPE OF BRIDGING CULTURAL UNDERSTANDING AND FOSTERING CULTURAL COMPETENCE, WHICH IS EMERGING AS A KEY WORKFORCE SKILL. ACCEPTING THIS PROCLAMATION HAS PERSONAL SIGNIFICANCE TO ME AS WELL.

THIS YEAR MARKS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FALL OF SAIGON FROM APRIL TO OCTOBER 1975.

MORE THAN 50,000 VIETNAMESE REFUGEES PASS THROUGH CAMP PENDLETON, JUST NORTH OF CARLSBAD, AWAITING RESETTLEMENT IN THE UNITED STATES. I WAS BORN IN OCTOBER 1975, A DAUGHTER OF VIETNAMESE REFUGEES, AND WAS NAMED AFTER BETTY CRADDOCK, A SINGLE MOTHER IN OHIO WHO TOOK IN OUR FAMILY OF TEN WHILE RAISING TWO TEENAGERS OF HER OWN.

WE ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE KINDNESS OUR FAMILY EXPERIENCED AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE BEEN AFFORDED IN THIS COUNTRY.

BUT WE ALSO CARRY WITH US THE PAIN AND SACRIFICES THAT OUR FAMILY ENDURED SO THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS MAY LIVE IN FREEDOM.

TONIGHT I HAVE MY CHILDREN WITH ME AND TOGETHER.

LIKE MANY REFUGEE AND IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, WE REMEMBER OUR PAST WHILE LOOKING TOWARD THE PROMISE OF THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR RECOGNIZING THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ASIAN AMERICAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDERS TO OUR SOCIETY, AS WE COLLECTIVELY HONOR OUR CULTURAL ROOTS. THANK YOU.

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CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, THERE WAS NO REPORTABLE ACTION.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE TO READ THE FOLLOWING.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS RELATE TO THE QUESTION OR MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION.

INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

THE COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT.

NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN MAKING YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THAT THIS IS A CHAMBER.

THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.

THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME. PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THE 2.5 MINUTE MARK.

THE PODIUM LIGHT WILL TURN YELLOW. THAT'S GIVING YOU NOTICE. YOU HAVE 30S LEFT.

I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE THREE MINUTES.

THAT WAY, EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK.

PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, SIDNEY SCHWARTZ, FOLLOWED BY GLENN BERNARD.

HI. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS SIDNEY SCHWARTZ. I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE AND I'M A SENIOR AT SAN MARCOS HIGH SCHOOL.

I'VE LIVED IN CARLSBAD MY ENTIRE LIFE AND I'VE ALWAYS LOVED IT HERE.

AS MANY OF YOU HAVE LIKELY NOTICED, THROUGHOUT RECENT YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN A SERIOUS INCREASE IN THE POPULARITY OF E-BIKES AND WHY I THINK IT IS AMAZING THAT KIDS ARE USING IT AS A WAY TO BE OUTSIDE.

I THINK THAT E-BIKE SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.

IT IS WHY I URGE THE COUNCIL TO HELP PROTECT THE CHILDREN OF CARLSBAD BY SUPPORTING THE BAN ON ELECTRIC BIKES FOR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 12.

IN 2023 ALONE, THERE ARE OVER 23,000 E-BIKE RELATED INJURIES REPORTED ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

MANY OF THESE INVOLVE CHILDREN WHO ARE ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE TO SERIOUS INJURIES.

JUST RECENTLY, A 14 YEAR OLD BOY FROM CHINO HILLS TRAGICALLY LOST HIS LIFE IN AN E-BIKE CRASH.

IT'S A HEARTBREAKING REMINDER OF HOW DANGEROUS THESE VEHICLES CAN BE WHEN OPERATED BY CHILDREN.

CHILDREN UNDER 12 OFTEN LACK THE PHYSICAL COORDINATION, JUDGMENT AND AWARENESS NEEDED TO SAFELY RIDE IN TRAFFIC.

MOST HAVEN'T LEARNED THE RULES OF THE ROAD AND OFTEN DON'T WEAR HELMETS.

WITHOUT A CLEAR AGE LIMIT, WE ARE ALLOWING KIDS TO OPERATE VEHICLES THAT THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT READY TO HANDLE.

IN CONCLUSION, THE INCREASING NUMBER OF E-BIKE ACCIDENTS MAKE IT EVIDENT THAT WHEN HANDLED INCORRECTLY, CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS. BY SETTING A CLEAR AGE MINIMUM, WE CAN PREVENT AVOIDABLE INJURIES, PROTECT CHILDREN, AND PROMOTE SAFER STREETS FOR EVERYONE.

I THANK THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THESE IMPORTANT COMMENTS.

LET US STAND TOGETHER IN SUPPORT OF THIS INITIATIVE AND MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF ASIAN AMERICAN ET-CETERA MONTH.

I WAS IN THE MARINE CORPS FOR A LOT OF YEARS, AND I SERVED WITH THIS WONDERFUL GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THE COUNTRIES THAT THEY COME FROM AND THEIR ANCESTORS. AND I HAVE NOTHING BUT POSITIVE MEMORIES OF MY INTERACTIONS WITH THIS, WITH THESE PEOPLE ON ACTIVE DUTY WITH ME. NOW, ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT I WAS NOT ON ACTIVE DUTY WITH WAS THE 442ND REGIMENT OF THE US ARMY, WORLD WAR TWO, THE MOST DECORATED UNIT IN MILITARY HISTORY.

THEY WERE NISEI. NISEI IS THE WORD. THEY WERE SECOND GENERATION JAPANESE FOR THE MOST PART.

AND THEY WERE FIGHTING FOR AMERICA WHILE THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS WERE IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERICA.

WONDERFUL GROUP OF PEOPLE. AND IF THEY HAVE ANY ANIMOSITY TOWARDS THAT PRESIDENT OR HIS POLITICAL PARTY, I'VE NEVER NOTICED IT MEANING FDR, WHO PUT THEM THERE? THEY SHOULD BE REMEMBERED. THE FOUR 42ND SHOULD BE REMEMBERED AS MUCH AS WE THINK OF THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN AND THE NAVAJO CODE TALKERS.

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SOME I DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHY SO MANY CAME HERE TO WORK ON THE CONTINENTAL RAILROAD TRANSCONTINENTAL.

BUT THEY DID AND OF COURSE, THEY WERE EXCLUDED FROM ALL THE PHOTOGRAPHS CELEBRATING THE END OF THAT.

SO SHORTLY AFTER THE THAT WAS DONE, CONGRESS PASSED SOMETHING CALLED THE CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT.

HORRIBLE OF 1882, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO LAST TEN YEARS, BUT IT HAS LINGERING EFFECTS.

THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENED AFTER, YOU KNOW, IT GOT ENACTED OCCURRED IN SAN FRANCISCO WHEN THERE WAS A BIG EARTHQUAKE AND FIRE.

US GOVERNMENT WENT THERE TO HELP ZILLIONS OF PEOPLE, BUT NOT THE CHINESE.

THEY NEEDED A RICH CHINESE AMERICAN TO GET THEM THROUGH THE PAIN AND SUFFERING FOLLOWING THAT.

FAST FORWARD TO 20 YEARS AGO. I'M IN A CLASSROOM AT CAL STATE SAN MARCOS GETTING A TEACHING CREDENTIAL CLASS.

SOME TEACHERS, SOME PEOPLE ALREADY HAD, AND THE PROFESSORS BROUGHT IN A SPECIAL PERSON WITH A DOCTORATE.

AND THAT SPECIAL PERSON HAD ONE THING TO SAY THAT THERE'S TOO MANY ASIAN AMERICANS GETTING ACCEPTED INTO THE UNIVERSITIES OF AMERICA.

AND THE PERSON WHO CHALLENGED THAT WAS ME. AND SHE SAID, IT'S NOT DEMOCRATIC.

AND. AND I SAID DEMOCRATIC. THAT'S ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE.

SO IF IF YOU'RE OF THAT PERSUASION, LIKE MAYBE A DEMOCRAT, MAYBE IF YOU CAN'T SEE THE HORRORS OF RIDICULOUS, MAYBE YOU NEED TO CHANGE POLITICAL PARTIES. MADELEINE LIU FOLLOWED BY MAYA SCHNEIDER.

GOOD EVENING. OH, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MADELEINE LIU AND I'M A NINTH GRADER AT PACIFIC RIDGE SCHOOL.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL TO HELP START A PUBLIC AWARENESS AND SUPPORT CAMPAIGN FOR ECZEMA AND OTHER CHRONIC SKIN CONDITIONS.

ECZEMA, AKA ATOPIC DERMATITIS, IS A SKIN CONDITION THAT CAUSES EXTREME ITCHING AND INFLAMMATION.

BUT IT'S MORE THAN JUST PHYSICAL. FOR ME, ECZEMA HASN'T JUST IMPACTED MY SKIN, IT'S IMPACTED MY CONFIDENCE.

IT MAKES EVERYDAY THINGS LIKE TAKING A SHOWER PAINFUL.

AND WORST OF ALL IS WHEN MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

THEY THINK IT'S JUST DRY SKIN. BUT ECZEMA IS A FULL TIME BATTLE THAT AFFECTS EVERY PART OF LIFE, INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH. AND I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S GONE THROUGH THIS.

THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER STUDENTS WHO HAVE HAD THE EXACT SAME EXPERIENCES AND JUST LIKE ME, I'M SURE THEY OFTEN FEEL UNSUPPORTED. THEY MAY FEEL ALONE, EMBARRASSED, OR EVEN MISUNDERSTOOD.

THEY MIGHT FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO HIDE THEIR CONDITION BECAUSE NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO HERE'S MY REQUEST FOR YOU TODAY. LET'S START A PUBLIC AWARENESS AND SUPPORT CAMPAIGN FOR ECZEMA AND OTHER CHRONIC SKIN CONDITIONS HERE IN CARLSBAD.

THIS MIGHT INCLUDE EDUCATIONAL POSTERS OR PRESENTATIONS IN SCHOOL, OR ON HOW TO OR INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO MANAGE CHRONIC SKIN CONDITIONS, AND MAYBE EVEN CREATING PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL DERMATOLOGISTS TO OFFER LOW COST SUPPORT PROGRAMS. WE COULD EVEN HELP SCHOOLS PROVIDE PRIVATE SPACES FOR STUDENTS WHO NEED TO APPLY TREATMENT OR MOISTURIZER DURING THE DAY BECAUSE I KNOW I FELT EMBARRASSED WHEN I HAD TO DO THAT, OR EVEN JUST HAVING A MEETING WITH PEOPLE WHO ALL HAVE ECZEMA SO THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE.

AWARENESS AND SUPPORT CAN CHANGE LIVES. ECZEMA ISN'T JUST BAD SKIN, IT'S PHYSICAL PAIN, EMOTIONAL STRESS, AND INVISIBLE BARRIERS, ESPECIALLY FOR STUDENTS LIKE ME.

IT'S JUGGLING BOTH SCHOOLWORK AND THE WEIGHT OF ECZEMA ON THEIR SHOULDERS.

WE JUST NEED UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS MAYA SCHNEIDER AND I'M IN NINTH GRADE AT PACIFIC RIDGE SCHOOL.

I BELIEVE THAT CARLSBAD NEEDS A SAFE THIRD SPACE FOR TEENS TO HANG OUT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY JUST HAVE SCHOOL AND HOME.

THIS AFFECTS ME AND MY PEERS BECAUSE WE ARE TEENS AND STRUGGLE TO FIND PLACES TO HANG OUT AT THAT ARE SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE TO US.

CURRENTLY, MY FRIENDS AND I ONLY HANG OUT AT EACH OTHER'S HOUSES OR AT SCHOOL BECAUSE WE HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.

TEENS HAVING A PLACE TO GO WILL HELP DEVELOP THEIR SOCIAL SKILLS, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE FREEDOM WITHOUT ADULT JUDGMENT, WHERE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN BE THEMSELVES. THIS WILL ALSO BRING THEM CLOSER TO THEIR PEERS AND HELP THEM TO BUILD A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

SOME IDEAS I HAVE FOR THIRD SPACE IN CARLSBAD INCLUDE A ROLLER SKATING RINK, BOWLING ALLEY, OR MAYBE A MALL FOR TEENS BECAUSE THE CURRENT ONES ARE NOT SAFE FOR THEM.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT HAVING AN ALTERNATE SPACE WILL LIMIT PHONE USAGE AND ENCOURAGE FACE TO FACE INTERACTIONS AMONG PEERS.

ACCORDING TO ALISON OCHS, WHO'S A LECTURER, TEACHER AND A CONSULTANT ON TEEN ISSUES, A PHYSICAL THIRD SPACE PROVIDES AN ENVIRONMENT FOR RISK TAKING, TENSION RELEASE AND ORGANIC SOCIALIZATION DOES NOT ONLY NECESSARY BUT VITAL FOR THE HOLISTIC DEVELOPMENT OF AN ADOLESCENT.

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I KNOW THAT CARLSBAD ALREADY HAS THE TEEN CENTER, YET THE MAJORITY OF THEIR ACTIVITIES ONLY ALLOW KIDS UP TO NINTH GRADE.

ALSO, YOU HAVE TO PAY TO ATTEND THEIR EVENTS, WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE.

SO I BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A PLACE THAT ALL TEENS CAN GO FREE OF CHARGE TO HANG OUT THERE, AND PEOPLE CAN SELL THINGS THERE THOUGH, AND IT ALLOWS ALL TEENS TO ATTEND.

OVERALL, I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT TEENS SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE THIRD SPACE BECAUSE IT WILL HELP FOSTER A COMMUNITY AMONG THE YOUTH. SIGN UP OUR GENERATION FOR BETTER FUTURE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. JOSHUA LONG.

HELLO, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JOSHUA.

I LIVE OFF OF LA COSTA AND CITY OF LIMA. I'M ALSO A JUNIOR AT PACIFIC RIDGE, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE LIVED IN CARLSBAD MY WHOLE LIFE.

IT'S A GREAT PLACE. IT'S WONDERFUL. I'VE CREATED, MET SO MANY WONDERFUL PEOPLE, CREATED GREAT MEMORIES, AND OVERALL, DUE TO THE SAFE COMMUNITY I BECAME THE PERSON WHO I AM TODAY.

THAT'S WHY I WANT TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, AND I WANT TO BRING AWARENESS OF THINGS THAT MAKE THE COMMUNITY EVEN BETTER.

TODAY I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A CONCERN I'VE HAD FOR A WHILE.

I WANT TO DISCUSS THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN THE ACOSTA AVENUE AND CAMINO DE LOS COCHES.

THIS IS A BUSTLING INTERSECTION, AND THE ONLY THING DIVIDING THE TRAFFIC IS A STOP SIGN AT THE END OF CAMINO DE LOS COCHES.

WHAT MAKES THIS INTERSECTION SO DANGEROUS IS THE HIGH SCHOOLERS COMING FROM LA COSTA CANYON HIGH SCHOOL.

THIS IS THE INTERSECTION TO. WHY IS THIS INTERSECTION SO DANGEROUS? THE LACK OF EXPERIENCED DRIVERS WOULD COMPLETELY IGNORE THE STOP SIGN AND THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND DRIVE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, AND THEN THE LACK OF TRAFFIC CONTROL AND ENFORCEMENT IN THIS INTERSECTION ALSO.

AS A RESULT OF THESE TWO FACTORS. THERE'S A LOT OF CAR COLLISIONS THAT I'VE SEEN AND ALSO HAPPEN IN THE RISK IN THIS COLLISION OR IN THIS INTERSECTION. IN ADDITION, THROUGHOUT MY WHOLE LIFE LIVING IN CARLSBAD, I'VE ALSO EXPERIENCED NEAR COLLISION CAR COLLISIONS IN THIS INTERSECTION AS I DRIVE BY.

WHAT CAN WE DO? I SUGGEST IMPLEMENTING A SPEED BUMP BEFORE THE STOP SIGN TO ENFORCE DRIVERS TO SLOW DOWN BEFORE THE STOP SIGN.

ANOTHER SOLUTION WOULD BE ADDING A TRAFFIC LIGHT TO COMPLETELY CONTROL THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN THIS BUSY INTERSECTION.

IF THE GOAL IS TO PREVENT INJURY OR WORSE, THEN ACTION HERE WOULD BE A PRIORITY.

I URGE YOU TO TREAT THIS AS A SAFETY RISK. LIKE THE SAFETY RISK, IT IS.

NOT JUST FOR THE STUDENTS, BUT ALSO FOR THE FAMILIES, CYCLISTS AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THE AREA.

LET'S MAKE LA COSTA AND CAMINO DE COCHES SAFER THAN THE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF KIDS CAN FOCUS ON GETTING TO SCHOOL INSTEAD OF DODGING TRAFFIC.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE REST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT.

NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ONE THROUGH FIVE?

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

I'VE OBSERVED THAT ON CONSENT CALENDAR, MANY JUST ABOUT EVERY TIME I'VE EVER LOOKED AT IT, THE INVESTMENTS, THE CITY'S INVESTMENTS ARE ALWAYS IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH MEANS WHATEVER DISCUSSIONS TAKE PLACE AMONGST YOU PEOPLE. AND WE DON'T WE DON'T GET TO HEAR THEM.

WE I CAN COME UP HERE AND MAKE COMMENTS. AND I'VE BEEN TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND I LOOKED AT THE INVESTMENTS AND I THINK I SAW THAT $900 MILLION, THERE WOULD BE MORE, I SUPPOSE, IF WE DIDN'T WRITE A CHECK TO PAY OFF THE DEBT ON THE GOLF COURSE A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A COMMISSION FOR LIKE A ZILLION THINGS HERE IN CARLSBAD.

AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE ISN'T ONE FOR THE INVESTMENTS.

IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TERRIFIC PEOPLE IN CARLSBAD WITH GOOD FINANCIAL KNOWLEDGE.

AND IF THERE WAS A COMMISSION FOR THE INVESTMENTS, I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE HURTFUL.

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WHAT'S IT CALLED? IS IT CALLED THE INVESTMENT COMMISSION? CONTINUE SIR, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SAY.

OKAY, WELL, IF THERE'S AN INVESTMENT COMMISSION THAT I'M PLEASED ABOUT IT. NOW, THERE'S ONE THING I'VE NOTICED IN THE LOOKING AT YOUR WEBSITE FOR THE INVESTMENTS, THERE'S SOMETHING THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY TIED UP WITH SOMETHING CALLED FEDERAL AGENCIES.

I'M THINKING CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY. DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

WHAT ARE THESE AGENCIES? SO MY REQUEST IS THAT ON YOUR WEBSITE, THERE'D BE MORE YOU'D BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THESE FEDERAL AGENCIES. IT'S BLURRY, IT'S VAGUE.

AND IF THESE AGENCIES ARE CONNECTED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHO'S PROBABLY THE MOST BROKEN DEBT RIDDEN ORGANIZATION EVER ON THE PLANET. YOU KNOW, IS IT REALLY A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE INVESTMENTS CONNECTED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? SO IS THERE A COMMISSION? WHAT'S IT CALLED? MR. BERNARD, WHEN YOU'RE ALL FINISHED, I'LL INVITE YOU TO CALL ME.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS ALL OF THIS WITH YOU AND KEEP YOU GET YOU UP TO DATE.

IT'S AN EASY QUESTION. IS THERE IF THERE'S SUCH A COMMISSION? IS IT CALLED THE INVESTMENT COMMISSION? WE DON'T NEED AN EXTENDED.

AT THE CONCLUSION, I'LL ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I WON'T BE HERE, BUT THANK YOU. WHAT I SAY IN CONCLUSION.

CONCLUSION OF YOU SPEAKING. I'M DONE. OKAY. HAVE A SEAT.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO TELL YOU THE NAME OF THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.

OKAY. IN FACT, ITEM NUMBER SIX ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS THE SECOND READING RELATED TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE INVESTMENT REVIEW BOARD.

TERRIFIC. THANKS. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.

ANYBODY ON COUNCIL WISH TO PULL AN ITEM OR REMARK ON ANY ITEMS? MOTION, PLEASE. MOVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE. SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER SIX, CITY MANAGER.

[6. ORDINANCE NO. CS-490 – ESTABLISHMENT OF INVESTMENT REVIEW BOARD]

ESTABLISHMENT OF THE INVESTMENT REVIEW BOARD.

WE WOULD MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE. SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CITY MANAGER.

[7. ORDINANCE NO. CS-491 – CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 13.10, SECTION 13.10.080 SEWER BENEFIT AREA FEES A THROUGH M]

CHAPTER 13.10. SECTION 13.10 .080 SEWER BENEFIT AREA.

FEES A THROUGH M. MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

CHECK, CHECK YOUR SEE IF YOU LOGGED IN. THANK YOU.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND, MAYOR, IF I MAY INTERRUPT FOR A MOMENT, FOR THE RECORD, THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS ON THOSE LAST TWO ITEMS. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CITY MANAGER. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING RELATED TO THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION.

[8. CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION’S SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THE VILLAGE & BARRIO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS]

IN. ON AUGUST 2ND, 2023, CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A TWO SETS OF OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, ONE FOR THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN AREA, WHICH I'LL BE PRESENTING FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM AND THE AND ONE FOR THE ALL OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WHICH STAFF WILL BE PRESENTING FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE STANDARDS THAT ARE MEASURABLE, QUANTIFIABLE, AND PROVIDE SPECIFIC DIRECTION FOR WHEN AND HOW TO APPLY DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AND DO NOT INVOLVE PERSONAL JUDGMENT BY A DECISION MAKER.

FOR THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED THE INCLUSION OF A PALETTE OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, AND TO ENSURE THAT NEW MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS REFLECT THE DIVERSE AND ECLECTIC CHARACTER OF THE VILLAGE AND BORROWED NEIGHBORHOODS.

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IMPLEMENTATION OF THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FULFILLS STATE REGULATIONS AND PROGRAM 1.11 OF THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT, AND PREPARATION OF THESE STANDARDS WAS ALSO FULLY FUNDED BY THE STATE'S LOCAL EARLY ACTION PLANNING GRANT.

AFTER THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WERE APPROVED, STAFF SUBMITTED THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT TO COASTAL COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL, AS REQUIRED FOR THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS TO BECOME EFFECTIVE IN THE COASTAL ZONE.

CURRENTLY, THE VILLAGE AND BAR OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE ONLY EFFECTIVE IN OUTSIDE OF THE COASTAL ZONE.

AFTER COASTAL COMMISSION APPROVED A, OR GRANTED A ONE YEAR TIME EXTENSION FOR STAFF REVIEW IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, COASTAL COMMISSION APPROVED THE PROPOSED LCP CONTINGENT ON THEIR SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS BEING ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

THESE SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS ARE NARROWLY LIMITED TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXISTING LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM POLICIES.

CITY STAFF REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED COASTAL COMMISSION'S MODIFICATION AS NO ISSUES OR CONCERNS WERE IDENTIFIED.

MODIFICATIONS INCLUDE ADDING A REFERENCE THAT CLARIFIES THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE A PART OF THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, AND ADDING ONE NEW LIGHTING STANDARD AND ONE NEW LIGHTING DEFINITION CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT LCP POLICY.

IF THE COASTAL COMMISSION SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS ARE NOT APPROVED BY THE CITY, COASTAL COMMISSION WILL NOT CERTIFY THE LCP AND THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WILL NOT BECOME EFFECTIVE IN THE COASTAL ZONE.

ADDITIONALLY, THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS IS REQUIRED PURSUANT TO PROGRAM 1.11 OF THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT.

THEREFORE, IF NOT APPROVED, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAM WILL NOT BE COMPLETED AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE ACKNOWLEDGING RECEIPT OF AND APPROVING THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION'S SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. CITY PLANNER ERIC AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES. LORI ROBBINS.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LORI AND I'M A CARLSBAD RESIDENT WITH EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN.

I'VE THOROUGHLY REVIEWED THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO OBJECTIVE STANDARDS AND DISCUSSED MY CONCERNS WITH CITY PLANNERS.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO URGE YOU TO NOT APPROVE THE COASTAL COMMISSION COMMENTS, AND THUS THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN THEIR CURRENT FORM.

THE DOCUMENT CONTAINS SIGNIFICANT FLAWS THAT, IF ADOPTED, WILL LEAD TO ARCHITECTURAL EYESORES THAT WILL REMAIN FOR DECADES.

I'M ASKING TONIGHT FOR YOU TO DIRECT STAFF TO CORRECT THESE CRITICAL ISSUES.

MANY OF THE CHANGES ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD DELETIONS AND CLARIFICATIONS, AND I BELIEVE THESE REVISIONS CAN BE MADE QUICKLY IF STAFF IS GIVEN THE FOCUS TIME TO DO SO. AN UPDATED, IMPROVED STANDARDS DOCUMENT WILL PROVIDE BUILDERS WITH THE CLEAR GUIDANCE THEY NEED.

HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT'S IN THAT DOCUMENT.

FIRST, IT PROMOTES ELEMENTS THAT ARE FOREIGN TO THE VILLAGE AND BARRIOS ESTABLISHED CHARACTER.

FOR EXAMPLE, IT PROMOTES ARCADE ARCADES, WHICH ARE NOT A DESIGN FEATURE THAT'S EXISTING IN THE VILLAGE.

IT ALSO PROMOTES SIX FOOT FENCES AND HEDGES AS A STREET FRONTAGE, WHICH WILL CREATE UNWELCOMING WALLS ALONG OUR SIDEWALKS AND ALSO PERMITTING CANTILEVERED ROOMS JUST EIGHT FEET FROM THE GROUND.

EVERY TEN FEET, THAT WILL RESULT IN AN OVERBEARING STREETSCAPE.

SECOND, THIS DOCUMENT HAS MULTIPLE INTERNAL DOCUMENT INCONSISTENCIES, SUCH AS SPECIFYING AWNING SIZES AS SIX

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THE CURRENT DOCUMENT ALSO CONTAINS GUIDELINES THAT CONFLICT WITH CODE AND ADA REQUIREMENTS.

THESE DISCREPANCIES WILL LEAD TO CONFUSION AND COSTLY DELAYS FOR BUILDERS.

THIRD, THE CURRENT DOCUMENT ALLOWS FOR BLANK WALLS UP TO 200FT LONG.

THIS IS ENTIRELY OUT OF SCALE AND CHARACTER FOR THE VILLAGE AND BURIAL.

PLEASE DELAY APPROVAL TONIGHT AND INSTRUCT STAFF TO MAKE THESE NECESSARY DELETIONS AND CLARIFICATIONS.

DOING SO WILL ENSURE THAT WE HAVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT TRULY PROTECT AND ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

MISS BURKE? YES. OH, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, MISS BURKHOLDER. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

SO TONIGHT'S ITEM AS I'M UNDERSTANDING IT AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO ARE ALREADY PASSED, AND THIS IS ADDING THE COASTAL ZONE.

TO ALSO MEET THE CRITERIA TO COMPLY WITH THOSE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, WITH THE WITH THE ADDITIONS THAT THE COASTAL COMMISSION SAID.

YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE ADDITIONS FROM THE COASTAL COMMISSION AND IF APPROVED TONIGHT AND ONCE CERTIFIED BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION, WHICH WE EXPECT TO TAKE 1 TO 2 MONTHS, THEY WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IN THE COASTAL ZONE.

OKAY. SO TO MRS. ROBIN'S POINT, IT WHEN WE APPROVE THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, I DON'T RECALL.

MAYBE YOU DO. DID WE SET A REVIEW PERIOD FOR HOW THOSE ARE WORKING OUT? WE ALWAYS ANTICIPATED THAT IN ABOUT 2 TO 3 YEARS FROM INITIAL ADOPTION AND IMPLEMENTATION, WE WOULD EVALUATE AND MAKE REFINEMENTS. IT IS A VERY COMPLEX CODE.

WE ARE ONE OF THE ONLY JURISDICTIONS THAT THAT USE SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.

SO WE ARE KEEPING TRACK OF ALL COMMENTS FROM MISS ROBBINS, FROM APPLICANTS, FROM OUR STAFF, SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE AND UPDATE AS NEEDED.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE COASTAL COMMISSION APPROVAL PROCESS HAS TAKEN US LONGER THAN WE ANTICIPATED, BUT WE THINK THAT HAVING THESE DESIGN STANDARDS IN PLACE IS MUCH BETTER THAN THE CURRENT SITUATION.

AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE TO REFINE AS, AS WE GO.

GREAT. AND WHEN DO YOU THINK WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD IS UP OR MAYBE NEXT YEAR? YEAR AFTER? PROBABLY WE WOULD INITIATE IT IN NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND THEN BRING IT THROUGH SOME SORT OF PUBLIC PROCESS THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN TO CITY COUNCIL SOMETIME AFTER THAT. I THINK THE CONCERN FOR ME IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF BIG BOXES IN THE VILLAGE.

WE ALREADY HAVE SEVERAL. SO PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THESE DESIGN STANDARDS IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR THAT.

SO THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE COMMENTS. MISS ACOSTA, THANK YOU.

MY I THINK THE GENERAL IDEA OF MY QUESTIONS WAS ALREADY ADDRESSED.

I JUST WANT TO ASK ONE FOLLOW UP. COULD YOU REMIND US ABOUT THE PROCESS TO DEVELOP THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WE PREVIOUSLY WENT THROUGH? CORRECT. SO WE DID GO THROUGH A FULL PLANNING REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH REQUIRED EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR THE VILLAGE AND OUR OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

WE DID DO A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP. WE HAD A CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH MET FOUR TIMES TO GO OVER THE DRAFT DOCUMENTS. WE ALSO MET WITH STAKEHOLDERS OR DEVELOPERS AND REVIEWED THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WITH DEVELOPERS AS WELL AND GOT THEIR COMMENTS. AND LASTLY, WE ALSO OPENED IT UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND COMMENTS PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION.

THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. MS. BURKHOLDER. YEAH, JUST REALLY QUICKLY.

SO IN THE PROCESS WHEN WE SEE PROJECTS COMING FORWARD THAT I MEAN, I THINK SOME PLACES IN THE DOCUMENT WHERE THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THERE'S ARE SOME INCONSISTENCIES. SO I FEEL LIKE IN PLANNING DEPARTMENT, YOU MIGHT FACE THAT WITH DEVELOPERS AND BE LIKE, WELL, THEY COULD DO IT OVER THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE HAVE LIKE 14 PROJECTS IN THE VILLAGE RIGHT NOW, SOMETHING RIDICULOUS LIKE THAT. SO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ALL THESE PROJECTS FIGHTING WITH THE CITY ALL THE TIME. SO I JUST THINK IF IT'S NEEDED TO FINESSE SOME OF THESE MEASURES, I GUESS IN THE PLAN, PERHAPS WE WILL BRING IT BACK EARLIER, BUT I'M WILLING AND OPEN TO SEE IF THERE ARE

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SO JUST SORT OF HEADS UP AND IF IT'S FALLING APART, LET'S NOT WAIT UNTIL IT'S CRUMBLED.

THANKS. UNDERSTAND? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MS. ACOSTA. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THE POINT OF HAVING THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, BECAUSE THE STATE HAS TAKEN AWAY OUR ABILITY TO DECIDE SUBJECTIVELY.

SO COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY HOW THIS WILL HELP US TO HAVE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT IN THE PAST, BUT JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHY WE HAVE THEM AND WHY THEY'RE SO IMPORTANT, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL. YES. SO RECENT STATE LAWS, MULTIPLE RECENT STATE LAWS HAVE RESTRICTED OUR ABILITY TO HAVE SUBJECTIVE STANDARDS, WHICH ARE TYPICAL THINGS LIKE PRESERVE THE VISUAL CHARACTER.

AND SO WHAT THE EFFORTS AND REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IS WE CAN ONLY APPLY THOSE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS, SOMETHING THAT A REASONABLE PERSON COULD LOOK AT AND COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION.

AND SO THE MAIN INTENT OF THIS IS TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR STANDARDS AND CONVERT THEM FROM SUBJECTIVE INTO THINGS THAT WE CAN APPLY TO THE ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. SO IN LAYPERSON'S TERMS, IF WE SAW SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT LOOKED TERRIBLE AND WAS UGLY, THOSE ARE SUBJECTIVE THINGS. BUT IF WE DETERMINE THAT THERE ARE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT SAY THIS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND THIS SITE DESIGN IS ALREADY GOING TO BE AN APPROVED TYPE, THEN OR NOT APPROVED TYPE, THEN WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THAT FRAMEWORK THAT WE SET UP. IS THAT MORE OR LESS WHAT IT IS. THAT IS CORRECT.

AND WE ALSO INCLUDED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. NUMERIC STANDARDS SO THAT THEY CAN BE VERY CLEAR FOR APPLICANTS AND RESIDENTS.

GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MOTION. MOVE. APPROVAL. SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, MISS ROBBINS.

THAT GOOD LOOKING GUY STANDING OVER BY THE DOOR OVER THERE.

WOULD YOU PLEASE TALK WITH HIM AND SHARE YOUR YOUR COMMENTS, YOUR INFORMATION, AND SHARE IDEAS WITH HIM, PLEASE? THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR. NUMBER NINE. THANK YOU.

ITEM NINE. CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THE CITY-WIDE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS,

[9. CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION’S SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THE CITYWIDE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS]

THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FOR THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THE CITYWIDE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS PROJECT.

SO IN AUGUST OF 2023, CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE ZONING CODE AND LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT TO IMPLEMENT NEW A NEW OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS CITYWIDE.

THESE STANDARDS ARE MEASURABLE, QUANTIFIABLE, AND PROVIDE SPECIFIC DIRECTION FOR WHEN AND HOW TO APPLY DESIGN REQUIREMENTS, AND THEREFORE DOES NOT INVOLVE PERSONAL JUDGMENT BY A DECISION MAKER.

AS DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM, THESE STANDARDS DO NOT APPLY TO THE VILLAGE AND BAR AREA.

IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITYWIDE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FULFILLS THE STATE REGULATIONS AND PROGRAM 1.11 OF THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT, AND THE PREPARATION OF THESE STANDARDS WERE ALSO FULLY FUNDED BY THE STATE'S SB2 GRANT.

IN FEBRUARY 2025, THE COASTAL COMMISSION APPROVED THE PROJECT, CONTINGENT ON THEIR SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS BEING ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL. THESE SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS ARE NARROWLY LIMITED TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, AND HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED BY CITY STAFF.

THEY INCLUDE ADDING LANGUAGE CLARIFYING THAT MULTI-FAMILY MIXED USE PROJECTS WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE SHALL COMPLY WITH LCP OBJECTIVE STANDARDS, AND ADDING THE LATEST CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION DATE TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY IMPLEMENTS THE LATEST APPROVED OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL.

THESE SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS FOR THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL INCLUDE ADDING LANGUAGE THAT CLARIFIES THAT IF LCP STANDARDS CONFLICT WITH THE CITYWIDE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, THE LCP STANDARDS SHALL PREVAIL. IT ALSO REMOVES AN UNNECESSARY PARKING DEVELOPMENT STANDARD REFERENCE.

IT ADDS A NEW LIGHTING STANDARD AND ADDS CLARIFYING LANGUAGE TO A LIGHTING DEFINITION CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT LCP POLICY.

IF THE COASTAL COMMISSION SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS ARE NOT APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, COASTAL COMMISSION WILL NOT CERTIFY THE LCP AND THE CITYWIDE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS

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STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE ACKNOWLEDGING RECEIPT OF AND APPROVING THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION.

SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

CITY PLANNER ERIC AND I ARE BOTH AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.

MOTION, PLEASE. MOVE. INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER TEN.

[10. ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR THE THIRD QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2024-25 AND MIDYEAR BUDGET REVIEW]

AND FOR THE PRESENTATION IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MATT SANFORD AND FINANCE DIRECTOR ZACH KORACH.

THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I AM MATT SANFORD. I'M THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY. TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL PROVIDE AN ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425 THIRD QUARTER. MANY OF THESE FACTORS ARE THE SAME AS WE HIGHLIGHTED LAST QUARTER.

THE PULLBACK OF FEDERAL FUNDS FOR RESEARCH AND THE UNSTABLE TARIFF ENVIRONMENT ARE MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR CARLSBAD BUSINESSES OF ALL SIZES AND INDUSTRIES.

WE ARE HEARING FROM BUSINESSES THAT THIS PERIOD OF UNCERTAINTY IS MAKING IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE, INCLUDING HIRING OR EVEN MAINTAINING WORKERS.

RETAILERS ARE CONSIDERING RAISING PRICES TO ACCOUNT FOR INCREASED COST OF GOODS.

AND OUR TOURISM INDUSTRY IS CONCERNED ABOUT A DECLINE IN SENTIMENT BY POTENTIAL INTERNATIONAL VISITORS.

HOWEVER, THIS WEEK, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCED A PAUSE ON TARIFFS FOR MOST CHINESE IMPORTS.

IF IT HOLDS, THIS WOULD GREATLY REDUCE THE BURDEN OF A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT SELL PRODUCTS THAT ARE MANUFACTURED OR CONTAIN COMPONENTS THAT COME FROM CHINA.

WE ARE HEARING THAT WHILE THIS IS A POSITIVE SIGNAL, THE SHORT TERM NATURE OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT, WHICH IS SET FOR 90 DAYS, STILL LEAVES PLENTY OF WORRY FOR BUSINESSES. THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY WAS UP 0.8% BETWEEN JANUARY AND MARCH OF THIS YEAR, AND 3.8% FOR THE 12 MONTHS ENDING IN MARCH.

THE INDEX FOR ALL ITEMS, LESS FOOD AND ENERGY, INCREASED 4.2% FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

BECAUSE OF THIS RISE IN CONCERNS OVER REBOUNDING INFLATION, THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS SIGNALED IT IS UNLIKELY TO CUT INTEREST RATES UNTIL AT LEAST SEPTEMBER. A BIT OF GOOD NEWS. THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN CARLSBAD INDICATES THE CITY REMAINS AT FULL EMPLOYMENT DESPITE HEADWINDS.

CARLSBAD'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE INCREASED DURING THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE QUARTER, BUT DIPPED BACK DOWN IN MARCH TO END THE QUARTER AT 4.1%, UP SLIGHTLY FROM THE 4.4% IN DECEMBER. UNEMPLOYMENT IN MARCH WAS 4.2% FOR THE OR FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY, AND 5.3% FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. JOB POSTINGS FOR THE QUARTER TOTALED 6043, WHICH IS AN INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS QUARTER, BUT DOWN SLIGHTLY FROM THE SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR.

APPROXIMATELY EXCUSE ME, APPROXIMATELY 1357 CARLSBAD EMPLOYERS POSTED OPEN POSITIONS.

THE AVERAGE TIME TO FILL AN OPEN POSITION FELL TO 21 DAYS THIS QUARTER.

THE AVERAGE TIME TO FILL A POSITION HAD BEEN APPROXIMATELY 30 DAYS FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THIS IS AN INDICATOR THAT THERE IS MORE AVAILABLE LABOR IN THE MARKET AT THE OR AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE REMAINED A STEADY 4.2% IN MARCH.

HOWEVER, JOB OPENINGS DECLINED TO 7.2 MILLION, WHICH IS DOWN MORE THAN 900,000 YEAR OVER YEAR, SUGGESTING A COOLING AND LABOR DEMAND. DESPITE THIS, JOB GROWTH CONTINUES IN HEALTH CARE, SOCIAL ASSISTANCE AND TRANSPORTATION, WHILE LAYOFFS REMAIN LOW.

CARLSBAD'S MEDIAN HOME PRICE ROSE TO $1.54 MILLION IN MARCH, A 4.3% YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE, WHILE THE FEDERAL RESERVE ENACTED SEVERAL RATE CUTS IN LATE 2020 FOR MORTGAGE RATES REMAINED ELEVATED DUE TO ONGOING INFLATION AND TIGHT HOUSING INVENTORY.

THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 2796 BUSINESS LICENSES ISSUED LAST QUARTER, INCLUDING 195 NONRESIDENTIAL, 793 EXCUSE ME, 763 RESIDENTIAL, AND 838 OUTSIDE THE CITY LICENSES.

THIS IS AN OVERALL INCREASE OF 480 TOTAL BUSINESSES OVER THE SAME QUARTER OF 2024.

THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CARLSBAD BUSINESS LICENSES IS 10,158.

IT IS AN OR IT IS ESTIMATED THAT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 6881 PHYSICAL BUSINESSES LOCATED IN CARLSBAD.

A NET INCREASE OF 251 TOTAL BUSINESSES OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

COMMERCIAL VACANCY RATES CONTINUE TO FLUCTUATE ACROSS ALL THREE CATEGORIES THIS QUARTER.

THE INDUSTRIAL VACANCY RATE IN MARCH ROSE TO 7.8%.

THE OFFICE VACANCY RATE IN MARCH ROSE TO 14.4%, AND RETAIL VACANCY IN DECEMBER DROPPED TO 4.7%.

IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THESE PERCENTAGES ARE CALCULATED BY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET AVAILABLE IN EACH CATEGORY.

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STAFF HAVE STARTED TO SEE RENEWED INTEREST IN OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL SITES AFTER A TWO YEAR COOLING PERIOD, WHICH IS A POSITIVE SIGN. AS SOME OF THAT INTEREST IS REALIZED, IT MAY CAUSE A REBOUND IN THOSE PROPERTY TYPES.

HOTEL OCCUPANCY AVERAGED 68.7% THIS QUARTER, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE SAME QUARTER OF 2024 BY ABOUT TWO PERCENTAGE POINTS.

CARLSBAD'S AVERAGE DAILY ROOM RATE FOR THE QUARTER WAS A STRONG $204.37, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $10 OVER PREVIOUS 2024 LEVELS OF THE SAME QUARTER. IN A RECENT UPDATE TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE, VISIT CARLSBAD, WHICH IS THE DESTINATION MARKETING ORGANIZATION FOR THE CITY, NOTED THAT WHILE OVERALL OCCUPANCY WAS HIGHER, THIS WAS DUE TO INCREASED GROUP BUSINESS. INDIVIDUAL AND LEISURE TRAVEL WERE DOWN COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS.

CHANGING INTERNATIONAL TRAVELER SENTIMENT AND ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY IS EXPECTED TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON TOURISM IN THE COMING YEAR.

KEY TAKEAWAYS CARLSBAD ECONOMY IS DIVERSE, IT'S RESILIENT AND IT'S INNOVATIVE.

DESPITE SHIFTING POLICIES AND OVERALL ECONOMIC CONDITIONS, THE BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES IN THE CITY CONTINUE TO PERFORM WELL, AND CARLSBAD CONTINUES TO BE A SOUGHT AFTER LOCATION TO DO BUSINESS.

WE ARE SEEING AN UPTICK IN INTEREST IN RELOCATIONS AND EXPANSIONS IN CARLSBAD, AND IF TRADE DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE TO STABILIZE, THAT WILL REDUCE THE UNCERTAINTY FOR A NUMBER OF OUR BUSINESSES. AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY'S FINANCE DIRECTOR, MR. ZACH KORACH. THANK YOU, MR. SANFORD. SO THE NEXT PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION WILL BE THE FINANCIAL PIECE, AND WE'LL BE STARTING WITH GENERAL FUND REVENUES.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE WOULD BE THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OR THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS IN THE FIRST COLUMN OF ACTUAL REVENUES RECEIVED AGAIN DURING FISCAL YEAR 2324. AND THE SECOND COLUMN, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE EXPECTED TO RECEIVE DURING THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

AND THE THIRD AND FINAL COLUMN IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY DID RECEIVE IN THE THIRD IN THE THREE QUARTERS THUS FAR IN FY 2425.

AND AS WE CAN SEE, FOR THE MAJORITY OF REVENUE SOURCES ACROSS THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE EXCEEDED BOTH PRIOR YEAR'S ACTUALS AS WELL AS CURRENT YEAR ESTIMATES, WITH THE NOTABLE EXCEPTION OF SALES TAX, WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDE.

SO HERE WE'RE LOOKING WE'RE LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND REVENUES PRESENTED NUMERICALLY. AND WE'RE COMPARING THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS LAST YEAR TO THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS THIS YEAR.

WE ALWAYS TEND TO FOCUS ON PROPERTY TAX SALES TAX AND TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX.

THE REASON BEING THE THREE OF THOSE REVENUE SOURCES COMBINED REPRESENT NEARLY 80% OF TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUES.

STARTING WITH PROPERTY TAX, WE'RE SEEING A $1.6 MILLION, OR 3% INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

THAT'S MAINLY DUE TO INCREASES IN AIRCRAFT TAXES AS WELL AS GROWTH IN ASSESSED VALUES ACROSS CARLSBAD.

I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT SUPPLEMENTAL TAXES, AND THAT IS THE THE TAX THAT IS ASSESSED BASED ON CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP IN PROPERTY ACROSS CARLSBAD IS DOWN BY $536,000, OR 46. COMPARE COMPARED TO THE SAME PERIOD IN FISCAL YEAR 23.

24. THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAXES RECEIVED IN DECEMBER AND APRIL OF EACH YEAR.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE SETS THE PROPERTY TAX ROLL ON JANUARY 1ST, IN EACH RESPECTIVE YEAR, PRIOR TO THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF ANY ADVERSE CONDITIONS.

NOTABLY, AS MR. SANFORD HAD NOTED, THE INCREASE IN THE MEDIAN HOME VALUE ACROSS CARLSBAD HAS ONLY INCREASED UP TO $1.54 MILLION.

AND ALL OF THAT SAID, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAX REVENUES, WE ARE AFFORDED THE LUXURY OF TIME WHEN IT COMES TO ANY POTENTIAL DOWNTURNS IN THE HOUSING MARKET AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WE AND OUR REVENUE SOURCES WILL NOT BE IMPACTED FOR AT LEAST A YEAR THEREAFTER.

AND LOOKING AT SALES TAX, WE ARE SEEING A VERY NOMINAL INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR.

AND IN PREVIOUS FINANCIAL PRESENTATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THIS PART OF THE INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE CORRECTION OF AN AUTO CORRECTION OF AN ERROR THAT WAS MADE BY ONE PARTICULAR AUTO DEALER. THE MAJORITY OF THE ONE TIME IMPACT OF THAT CORRECTION IS REFLECTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2425 REVENUES.

THERE WILL BE AN ONGOING POSITIVE IMPACT, BUT NOT TO THE SAME EXTENT THAT WE EXPERIENCE IN THAT ONE ONE TIME CORRECTION.

ON AN ADJUSTED BASIS, WHEN WE COMPARE ACTUAL GROSS RECEIPTS YEAR OVER YEAR, WE ARE SEEING DECREASES OVER THE LAST THREE QUARTERS, RANGING BETWEEN 3 AND 5%, INDICATIVE OF A PULLBACK FROM CONSUMER DEMAND FOR TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX.

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GENERAL FUND REVENUES ARE COMING IN 4.3 MILLION, OR 3% HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD ADOPTED THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET LAST JUNE AT A LEVEL OF $238.5 MILLION, AND IT CURRENTLY HAS A WORKING BUDGET OF $255.9 MILLION.

THE WORKING BUDGET. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ADOPTED AND WORKING BUDGET IS THE WORKING BUDGET INCLUDES ANY CARRYFORWARD ENCUMBRANCES THAT WERE CARRIED FORWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR INTO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. IN TERMS OF THE AVAILABLE BUDGET REMAINING, THAT EQUATES TO JUST UNDER $70 MILLION, OR 27%. THIS IS A LEVEL THAT HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY MET YEAR OVER YEAR THROUGH THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF, OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, AS WELL AS ANY OPEN OR EXISTING ENCUMBRANCES THROUGH THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF THE FISCAL YEAR. WE'RE SHOWING THE EXPENDITURES BY TYPE, BY PERSONNEL, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, TRANSFERS OUT AND OTHER OTHER EXPENDITURES FOR PERSONNEL.

WE ARE SEEING A SLIGHT INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S ACTUALS.

THIS IS DRIVEN BY CITY COUNCIL APPROVED, NEGOTIATED AND CONTRACTUAL SALARY, AS WELL AS BENEFIT INCREASES FOR BOTH CALPERS RETIREMENT AS WELL AS HEALTH INSURANCE. WE ARE SLIGHTLY BIT HIGHER IN MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COSTS WHEN COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR WITH THE PRIOR YEAR, $52 MILLION IN THE CURRENT YEAR AT 55.8. MUCH OF THAT INCREASE IS YEAR OVER YEAR INFLATIONARY INCREASES THAT WERE INCLUDED AS SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS AS PART OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S ADOPTED BUDGET.

TRANSFERS OUT CAN FLUCTUATE QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF TRANSFERS OUT WHICH WHICH IS THE MOVEMENT OF FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO OTHER FUND SOURCES ACROSS THE CITY, LARGELY COINCIDE OR ARE GOVERNED AND DICTATED BY CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 91, WHICH STRIVES TO SET ASIDE OR TO TRANSFER 6% OF ESTIMATED GENERAL FUND REVENUES TO ONE OF THREE SOURCES THE GENERAL CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND, THE INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT FUND, AS WELL AS THE TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENT CAPITAL FUND.

SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES HERE, THIS TIME NUMERICALLY, WE ARE SEEING WE ARE SEEING A IN TERMS OF PERCENT OF BUDGET SPENT TO DATE, 68% LEAVING 32% AVAILABLE WHEN WE FACTOR IN THE OPEN PURCHASE ORDERS OR ENCUMBRANCES.

THAT IS HOW WE ARRIVE TO THE 27% OF REMAINING BUDGET AND ON TREND WITH PREVIOUS FISCAL YEARS.

BRIEFLY DISCUSSING ON THE ENTERPRISE SIDE OF THINGS FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER.

LOOKING AT THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF REVENUE AND EXPENSE PERFORMANCE.

STARTING WITH WATER, WE ARE SEEING REVENUES UP 9%.

THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO RATE INCREASES THAT WENT INTO EFFECT BACK IN JANUARY OF 2024.

EXPENSES ARE ALSO UP 9%, MAINLY DUE TO NEGOTIATED SALARY INCREASES, ALONG WITH AN 11% RATE INCREASE IN THE VARIABLE COST OF PURCHASED WATER FROM THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY. WASTEWATER REVENUES ARE UP 18%.

THAT IS LARGELY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE 20% RATE INCREASE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT BACK IN JANUARY OF 2024, AS WELL AS IN FOR EXPENSES ARE ALSO UP ROUGHLY 20%.

MUCH OF THAT INCREASE IS DRIVEN BY THE ENCINA WASTEWATER AUTHORITY AND THEIR CONTRACTUAL RATE INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR.

FOR THE GOLF COURSE, WE ARE SEEING BOTH REVENUES AND EXPENSES UP 2% COMPARED TO THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF THE PRIOR YEAR.

PRIMARY OPERATING REVENUES AT THE COURSE HAVE REMAINED RELATIVELY CONSISTENT YEAR OVER YEAR.

THERE HAVE HAS BEEN A SLIGHT INCREASE IN DEMAND COMBINED WITH INCREASE IN GOLF RATES.

THE INCREASE IN EXPENSES IS DRIVEN BY A COUPLE OF FACTORS.

FIRST, INCREASED USE IN IN WATER AT THE GOLF COURSE AS WELL AS RATES APPLIED FOR THE COURSE AND GROUNDS. AS FOR NEXT STEPS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE WILL, OF COURSE, BE POSTING THE ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL STATUS REPORTS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE,

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WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MR. SHIN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. JUST A CLARIFICATION FOR YOU, MATT.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TARIFF PAUSE JUST TO CONFIRM WHAT YOU WERE STATING.

THIS ISN'T JUST A PAUSE. THIS IS JUST A PAUSE ON THE RETALIATORY RATE.

SO WE'RE AT 30% RIGHT NOW? YEAH, IT IS STILL ABOVE WHERE IT WAS A YEAR AGO OR BEFORE THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT IT IS LOWER THAN THE RATE THAT WE HAD SEEN IT GO TO.

HAVE YOU SPOKE WITH BUSINESSES? JUST UNDERSTANDING THE 30%, A 30% TARIFF RATE IS EXTREMELY HIGH.

IT IS STILL IT IS STILL MUCH HIGHER. YES. WE'RE 145 IS ESSENTIALLY AN EMBARGO, RIGHT.

OKAY. AND THEN FOR YOU, ZACH, SLIDE 15. IF WE COULD PULL THAT ONE UP REAL QUICK WHERE IT SAYS GENERAL FUND REVENUE.

GREAT. YES. PERFECT. SO OUR SALES TAX, WE ONLY WENT UP 0%, BASICALLY.

RIGHT. SO 0.1 MILLION. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT OUR INFLATIONARY RATE WAS AROUND HERE LOCALLY? FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, BACK IN NOVEMBER, IT WAS INFLATION CAME IN AT 2.5%.

AND FOR THE LAST TWO, TWO MONTH PERIODS, IT'S BEEN AT 3.8%.

OKAY. SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE SEEING OURSELVES AT A LOSS BECAUSE WE CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP WITH THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES.

THAT'S CORRECT. THE IMPACTS EXPERIENCE FROM A DECREASE IN CONSUMER DEMAND.

GOTCHA. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. MISS ACOSTA. THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR PREPARING THIS SCAN AND OVERVIEW AND KIND OF IDEAS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FORWARD TO AS WE PREPARE OUR BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEAR.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT A BUDGET WORKSHOP I GUESS. HERE IS A QUESTION. WE'VE GOT A BUDGET WORKSHOP COMING UP FOR THE COMMUNITY. CAN YOU REMIND US? REMIND THE PUBLIC WHEN THE COMMUNITY BUDGET WORKSHOP IS? OF COURSE, THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 20TH TWO DAYS FOLLOWING ON MAY 22ND, THE THURSDAY WE WILL BE HOSTING THE THIRD ANNUAL COMMUNITY BUDGET WORKSHOP AT FROM 5:30 TO 07:30 AT THE FARADAY CENTER.

GREAT, GREAT. I DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE COMMUNITY GET INVOLVED AND SHARE INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE BIGGER PICTURE, WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM, THE INFLATION, THE PRESSURES THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WHEN IT COMES TO OUR REVENUE AND EXPENSES.

SO I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION AND ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO IT AND YOUR CONSTANT UPDATES, KEEPING UP WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING. THANKS. OTHER COMMENTS, MR. SHIN? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT AND JUST I JUST WANT ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND HOW NIMBLE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN THESE COMING MONTHS AND QUARTERS COMING UP. SO I APPRECIATE WE'RE SEEING A SLOWDOWN.

YOU STATED IT. IT'S OBVIOUS OUT THERE. WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE A BIG SHOCKWAVE IN REGARDS TO HOW WE'RE DOING TRADE.

AND SO JUST DO YOUR BEST. I HOPE TO JUST COMMUNICATE WITH OUR BUSINESSES FROM ALL THE WAY.

LITTLE MOM AND POP SHOPS ALL THE WAY UP TO OUR PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES TO JUST SEE WHAT THIS REFLECTS IS GOING TO BE AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THEM.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE IN ANOTHER TIME WHERE I WASN'T HERE, OF COURSE, DURING THE PANDEMIC AND TRYING TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES AND ALL THE WAY UP.

BUT WE MAY SEE THAT SHOCKWAVE AGAIN. AND IF WE CAN HOLD ON TIGHT UNTIL THE ADMINISTRATION KIND OF SHOWS US SOME TYPE OF GUIDANCE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP BEING AND WE CAN GET THERE. I JUST I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN APPRECIATE THAT LINK BETWEEN WHAT WE JUST SEE UP THERE BETWEEN SALES TAX AND TOT, WHICH IS OUR GREATEST REVENUE GENERATOR, AND THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING WE'RE SUPPORTING THOSE THAT ARE GETTING THAT FOR US.

THANKS, MISS BURKHOLDER. THANK YOU. YEAH, I, I DO WANT TO SAY I ALWAYS LOVE YOUR REPORTS, MR. SANFORD, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO DATA DRIVEN, AND I CAN JUST TAKE LITTLE THINGS OUT OF THESE GRAPHS AND CHARTS AND ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU DO TO HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON.

AND I DON'T SEE THIS SCAN AS NEGATIVE. I DO SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOME BUSINESSES WILL HAVE SPECIFIC CHALLENGES.

BUT ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT LOCAL IS GO TO THE TASTE OF CARLSBAD.

BUT I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MOTION. OH, THIS IS INFORMATION ONLY. THANK YOU.

NEXT IS ITEM 11. THIS WAS A REQUEST BY ME TO TALK ABOUT OUR POLICY NUMBER 99, WHICH IS THE PROCLAMATIONS.

[11. COUNCIL MEMBER REQUEST: DISCUSSION AND RECONSIDERATION OF CITY COUNCIL POLICY NO. 99 – CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATIONS, CERTIFICATES OF RECOGNITION AND CONGRATULATORY LETTERS]

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NUMBER ONE, IT TAKES TIME FROM OUR BUSINESS. BETWEEN THE COMMENTS AND THE PHOTOS AND THINGS, IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE BUSINESS PORTION OF OUR MEETINGS.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IT'S BECOMING DIVISIVE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

MOST RECENTLY WE'VE HAD EVEN PEOPLE ASKING FOR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS BASED ON WHO'S GOING TO RECEIVE A, A PROCLAMATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I WAS GOING TO ASK SAY LIKE IN THE MOST RECENT PROCLAMATIONS, HOW MANY HAVE BEEN HAVE HAD PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS AND HOW MUCH TIME DOES STAFF HAVE TO SPEND ON THOSE? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. MOST RECENTLY, WE'VE RECEIVED TWO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS REGARDING THE MOST RECENTLY ISSUED PROCLAMATIONS, AND WE'VE PROBABLY SPENT ABOUT 4 TO 10 HOURS BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.

AND IT USUALLY INVOLVES THE CITY COUNCIL'S OFFICE STAFF MEMBER, AS WELL AS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S AND CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC? IS THIS PUBLIC DISAGREEMENT AND RECOMMEND SCREENING OF THE RECIPIENTS OF THESE PROCLAMATIONS BASED ON THEIR BELIEFS OR BASED ON THEIR OPINIONS OR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS? IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE THAT INFRINGES ON FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

A QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY DOES IT? WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE CITY DOES NOT TYPICALLY CONCERN ITSELF WITH THE CONTENT OF PRIVATE SPEECH. SPEECH THAT OCCURS OUTSIDE OF THIS CHAMBERS, OR SPEECH THAT OCCURS IN A TRADITIONAL PUBLIC FORUM, LIKE ON THE STEPS OF CITY HALL. WE DON'T TYPICALLY CONSIDER THAT IN OUR DECISION MAKING.

OKAY. BECAUSE THIS IS TAKING UP TIME AND BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN DIVISIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY MORE RECENTLY. SO I'M THROWING OUT SOME IDEAS FOR A SOLUTION.

IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE THE MEETINGS MORE EFFICIENT AND ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY DIVISIVENESS, DIVISIVENESS IN THESE PROCLAMATIONS I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT MY OFFICE, WHEN I SAY MY OFFICE, ANDY, WILL ISSUE PROCLAMATIONS VERY LIBERALLY TO ANY GROUP THAT WANTS A PROCLAMATION FOR WHATEVER ORGANIZATION OR WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS.

AND THEN ANY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN GO OUT TO AN ORGANIZATION AND PRESENT ANY OF THOSE PROCLAMATIONS TO ANY GROUP OR ORGANIZATION OUTSIDE OF DOING IT DURING A COUNCIL MEETING.

AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS PUBLIC HAS SAID IS THE PROCLAMATIONS ARE A CHANCE FOR PUBLIC AWARENESS ON ISSUES, BUT WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETINGS.

SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND SHARE ANY KIND OF SHARING ABOUT ANY OF THESE PROCLAMATIONS OR PUBLIC AWARENESS THAT THEY'RE FREE TO COME SPEND THREE MINUTES ON AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.

I UNDERSTAND, THOUGH, THAT THERE'S TWO PROCLAMATIONS THAT CANNOT BE AFFECTED BY ANY CHANGES.

CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU SHARE THAT WITH US THERE? THAT'S CORRECT. THERE ARE TWO PROCLAMATIONS BY RESOLUTION THAT ANY THAT WE ARE IN ESSENCE, REQUIRED TO DO DUE TO THE RESOLUTION. ONE IS ARBOR DAY, WHICH IS PART OF OUR TREE CITY, USA PROGRAM.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS IN RECOGNITION OF PRIDE IN JUNE.

OKAY. SO THIS IS MY THOUGHTS TO TRY TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT LESS DIVISIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR INPUT. AND THEN AT THE END I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? INPUT. MISS ACOSTA. SURE, I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP. I HEAR THE APPROACH AND THE WANTING TO FIND A POSITIVE WAY OF CHANGING OUR POLICY. THIS IS THE POLICY THAT'S ATTACHED.

POLICY 99. IT'S IN OUR STAFF REPORT. I KNOW THAT WE UPDATED THE POLICY IN OCTOBER 2023.

SO FAIRLY RECENTLY I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD POLICY.

I THINK THE ISSUE HAD TO DO WITH ONE OF THE THINGS ALREADY IN THE POLICY, WHICH IS PROCLAMATIONS WILL NOT BE ISSUED FOR POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS MATTERS OF POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS NATURE.

I THINK THERE WERE JUST QUESTIONS ABOUT A RECIPIENT BEING A POLITICAL RECIPIENT.

SO I THINK OUR POLICY IS STRONG AND GOOD. I KNOW WE LOOKED AT IT AND I'M PLEASED WITH IT.

I DON'T MIND STRENGTHENING IT. I'M OPEN MINDED TO STRENGTHENING IT, BUT I, I, I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD BASE HERE AND I'M VERY OPEN TO THE

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WE WORK SO HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE NONPARTIZAN, THAT WHEN WE ARE HERE, WE TRY TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY. WE CAN DISAGREE WITHOUT BEING DISAGREEABLE.

WE TRY TO BE CIVIL AND NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF TOXIC CULTURE HERE.

IT WOULD JUST TRY TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS A PROCESS THAT IS NOT POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS IN NATURE, WHICH IS ALREADY IN THE POLICY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

THANKS. MR. SHIN. THANKS FOR THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS UP, MAYOR.

I THINK I AGREE WITH A LOT WITH AH COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME REFINEMENTS THAT I'M SEEING THAT WE COULD DO TO KIND OF HELP ALLEVIATE.

I DO FEEL LIKE REGARDLESS, WE'RE IN AN ENVIRONMENT THESE DAYS WHERE ALMOST ANYTHING CAN COME UP AND BE POLITICAL.

I THINK I THINK AT THE MOST STRICT THAT WE COULD GO IN REGARDS TO THIS BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IN PULLING THIS AT ALL.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT MAYBE THE COUNCIL WILL MAKE DETERMINATIONS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE ALLOW UP TO TWO PER MEETING IF WE WERE TO GO ON A VERY STRICT MANNER AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO JUST FALL ON YOU, MAYOR, TO DETERMINE THAT.

THERE'S LIKE A CELEBRATION FOR EVERY DAY, TIMES 500, IT SEEMS LIKE THESE DAYS.

SO IT FEELS LIKE IF THE PUBLIC WERE TO GO OUT THERE AND SAY, OH, I GOT THIS GREAT IDEA, LIKE NATIONAL, LIKE MY DAUGHTER'S LIKE NATIONAL COOKIE DAY ON HER BIRTHDAY, RIGHT? BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

AND A WHOLE GROUP CAN SHOW UP AND SAY THEY WANT TO DO THAT, AND WE CAN EXCUSE THOSE THINGS.

BUT I THINK THERE ARE VERY POIGNANT CIVIL CIVIC ASPECTS THAT WE SHOULD CELEBRATE AND ENCOURAGE.

THAT'S A PART OF WHO WE ARE. WE ARE CONNECTING OURSELVES BACK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.

BUT I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST WHEN I SEE THE STATEMENT, WHEN I SEE THE POLICY NUMBER 99, I SEE THE STATEMENT OF POLICY OF WHO THIS IS ISSUING PROCLAMATIONS FOR. IT SAYS NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS JUST BLANK.

AND I THINK MAYBE IF WE WERE TO REFINE THAT TO LIKE 501C3S WHERE THEY ARE NOT POLITICAL IN NATURE AND 501C6, BECAUSE THAT IS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND WE ALREADY DO INTERACTIONS WITH THEM, THAT MAYBE THAT'S JUST THE FIRST LITTLE NUB THAT WE CAN TAKE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ABLE TO JUST LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE IF WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF EXCLUDE IT DOWN TO JUST THAT AS A REFINEMENT.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. THE COUNCIL CAN CERTAINLY GIVE US DIRECTION TO GO BACK AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC FOR YOU.

JUST FOR ENTERTAINMENT VALUE. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THIS MORNING THAT TODAY IS NATIONAL CROUTON DAY.

I'M NOT AND I'M NOT JOKING. THAT'S TRUE. I'LL JUST CHATGPT A PROCLAMATION RIGHT NOW IF WE NEED TO DO THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MISS BHAT-PATEL? YES. THANK YOU, AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND MAYOR, THANKS FOR BRINGING IT BACK UP FOR CONVERSATION.

I THINK I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY AND THIS POLICY HAS COME BEFORE US.

I DO THINK THAT IT'S IN THE PAST WHEN I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.

AND SIMILARLY TODAY, I DO THINK THAT IT ALLOWS FOR FOLKS TO FEEL THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME IN BE REPRESENTED BY THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE AWARENESS ON ISSUES THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT AWARENESS.

I FEEL THAT THE BEST TIME TO DO THAT IS DURING A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THAT'S WHERE WE'LL GET THE MOST ATTENDANCE, I THINK.

OF COURSE WE CAN, ON OUR OWN, IN OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY, STILL PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITIONS.

OTHERWISE, I KNOW I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE WHEN THERE'S BEEN AN EVENT IN THE CITY AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, WHETHER ON YOUR BEHALF OR MYSELF. THE PIECE THAT I JUST WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT I THINK ONE THING THAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VIGILANT ON.

AND OF COURSE IF WE WANT TO STRENGTHEN THIS FURTHER, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.

IS THE PIECE I THINK THAT THAT IN THE LITERALLY IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS ESPECIALLY THAT GOT BROUGHT UP IS AROUND THE MATTERS OF POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS NATURE.

RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE SAW FOLKS WRITING IN SAYING, HEY, WHAT HAPPENED? HOW DID WE DEVIATE FROM THIS PARTICULAR POLICY? SO I THINK ONE THING I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE OF IS, AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, AS EACH OF US TAKE IT UPON US TO FIGURE OUT WHO WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS PROCLAMATION TO, THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABIDING BY THE POLICY.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE UP HERE. WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THE RULES.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL ALSO KEEP US IN CHECK.

I KNOW IT'S HARD TO DO THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUR ROLES, BUT CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY, MAYBE WE'LL LOOK TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT DOES COME UP AGAIN, THAT YOU ALLOW KIND OF LET US KNOW THAT HEY, BY THE WAY, AS PER POLICY, THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION IS POLITICAL IN NATURE.

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SO WE JUST TO COMMENT WE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE DIDN'T DEVIATE FROM THE POLICY ON THOSE PREVIOUS TWO BECAUSE THE PROCLAMATION WAS GIVEN FOR A WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH NOT GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT WASN'T.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING AT IS IF I THINK WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE ALL HAVE OUR AFFILIATIONS AND FOLKS KNOW THAT.

BUT I THINK WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS WHEN WE'RE GIVING PROCLAMATIONS OUT THAT WE KEEP THAT APOLITICAL NATURE IN THOSE PARTICULAR PROCLAMATIONS AS WELL.

AND I THINK THAT TO ME, AS IF I WERE A RESIDENT, AND I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO FOLKS THAT WROTE IN ESPECIALLY IS WHEN YOU SEE THIS POLICY, YOU WOULD THINK, OKAY, WELL HOW DID THIS, YOU KNOW, HOW DID WE ABIDE BY THIS POLICY IN THE LAST COUPLE? SO TO YES, IF THERE'S A WAY TO STRENGTHEN IT, I'D LOVE TO.

I THINK THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN ALSO MADE AROUND THE 501C3 AND 501C6 MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE TO LOOK AT, BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD FIRST LOOK INTO AND ENSURE THAT THAT'S I DON'T WANT TO JUST PUT YOU ALL ON THE SPOT.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANT TO COME BACK WITH, I'D BE OPEN TO THAT.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT REALM WHERE WE CAN TIGHTEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT, I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, BE LISTEN TO OTHER FOLKS SUGGESTIONS.

MISS BURKHOLDER. THANK YOU. ONE OF THE SOURCES OF CONFUSION HERE, BY THE WAY, THAT WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH WAS A GREAT TIME, THAT WEEK I WAS ABLE TO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND PRESENT A PROCLAMATION TO THE WOMEN'S CLUB OF CARLSBAD.

AND THAT'S GREAT. SO IF I HAD MY DRUTHERS, I WOULD JUST DO ALL OF IT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY HONORING THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND SERVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I THINK WITH THE CARLSBAD WOMEN'S FEDERATED, THE CONFUSION WAS IN THE POLICY.

IT SAYS MATTERS OF A POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS NATURE.

THIS WAS NOT A MATTER OF POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS NATURE.

IT WAS A ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE VOLUNTEERISM IN THE COMMUNITY IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, AS WAS EXPLAINED THAT NIGHT.

SO MAYOR, I AGREE WITH YOU. THEY TAKE UP TIME AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL TO DO AND WONDERFUL FOR FOLKS TO RECEIVE.

BUT I THINK US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND DO THIS, AND I ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

IT WAS MORE FUN DOING IT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THAN DOING IT HERE.

TO SOME OF THE SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS ON THE COUNCIL HAS SURROUNDED AROUND WHO THE RECIPIENT WILL BE.

THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO DO BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS ON THE RECIPIENT AND THEN BE THE BEARER OF BAD NEWS AND SAY, YOU CAN'T ACCEPT THIS BECAUSE OF YOUR POINTS OF VIEW OR WHAT YOU'VE POSTED ON FACEBOOK.

I'VE GOT A FEELING THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK AND HAUNT US.

SO I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. BUT I'M OPEN TO MORE COMMENTS.

MR. SHIN. YEAH. I'LL JUST MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR.

I AGREE WITH YOU THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S MAKING STATEMENTS HERE, AND YOU CAN HAVE A PERCEPTION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TERRIBLE OR WHATNOT.

I'LL TAKE THE CASE IN POINT IN REGARDS TO THE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.

SO WE HAD A SPEAKER THAT I KNOW WHO PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED THAT MAYBE SHE WOULD MAKE STATEMENTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE NEGATIVE OR WHAT HAVE YOU OR PARTISAN AND IT WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL. IT WAS VERY IT WAS A BEAUTIFULLY READ SPEECH ON HER PART.

THE PART THAT I THINK THAT GOT PEOPLE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT RILED UP IS BECAUSE IT WAS A PARTISAN GROUP THAT SHOWED UP.

AND SO WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE, IT JUST BECOMES THAT BECOMES THE APPARENT RIGHT THERE.

SO THEN IT FEELS VERY POLITICAL IN NATURE. AND THAT'S WHY THE CHALLENGING TAKES PLACE.

SO IF IF SHE CAME UP AND WE WANTED TO SAY SHE'S A PROUD LEADER AND COMMUNITY ACTIVIST AROUND HERE, AND WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE HER, AND I AM SO DOWN FOR THAT.

BUT WHEN YOU START BRINGING UP AN ORGANIZATION THAT STARTS PLAYING DOWN WITH WHAT THE ISSUES ARE NOT FOR IS WHERE IT TAKES PLACE.

AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE HERE ON THE DAIS IS THAT WE START FEELING A RESENTMENT OF THAT AND A RETALIATORY FEEL OF THAT, AND NOW I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING UP THE WRONG A GROUP THAT'S PARTISAN AS WELL.

AND THEN IT JUST BECOMES IT JUST BECOMES A MESS.

AND SO WHAT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN DO IS JUST REFLECT BACK AND LOOK AT THIS AND SAY THAT SPEAKER BEAUTIFUL WOMAN STRONG, AND SHE'S A LEADER, AND SHE REPRESENTS WHAT WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH IS, AND SHE UNDERSTANDS IT AND SHE ARTICULATED IT PERFECTLY.

BUT THE GROUP THAT NEEDS TO SHOW UP NEEDS AND IT'S FINE IF THAT GROUP SHOWS UP, BUT WE CAN'T REPRESENT IT THAT WAY BECAUSE THEN NOW WE START GOING DOWN WITH THE ISSUES OR NOT FOR. AND SO THAT'S ALL THAT'S I JUST THINK THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO TO KIND OF JUST CLARIFY.

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AND WE WERE JUST WORRIED ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT LESSON LEARNED AND HOPEFULLY THE AUDIENCE CAN HEAR THIS AND HOPEFULLY THE PUBLIC CAN. ALL EIGHT PEOPLE WATCHING THIS CAN HEAR THIS AND JUST REALIZE THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CAUTIOUS STEPS AS WE MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE I MAY MAKE A SLIP AND INVITE SOMEONE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN GET THE SAME FEEDBACK THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE.

AND I EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE SOMETIMES I'M BRINGING SOMEONE AND I'M NOT TOO SURE OF THEIR FULL BACKGROUND.

I'M NOT SCROLLING THROUGH THEIR FACEBOOK NONSTOP AS WELL.

AND SO THAT'S JUST WHERE I STAND. I THINK THAT I THINK THE PROCEDURE IS FINE.

I THINK WE CAN JUST LOOK AND DETERMINE LIKE, MAYBE NARROW DOWN THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

AND I THINK THAT THE PERSON THAT IS GOING TO RECEIVE THIS SHOULD ALSO, IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY SEE THIS POLICY TO AND SAY, HEY, JUST MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A WHOLE MEETING IN REGARDS TO THIS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS FAIRLY FOR THE PUBLIC.

I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET ON THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE OF IF SOMEBODY IS EXTREME REPUBLICAN OR EXTREME DEMOCRAT, WE'RE GOING TO PREVENT THEM FROM COMING IN BECAUSE ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER IS AFRAID IT'S GOING TO BE BIASED.

I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED WITH THAT. WE'RE DEALING WITH HUMAN BEINGS AND WE DON'T.

WE CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY WHEN THEY COME UP TO THE PODIUM. AND I WILL NOT BE THE ONE TO SAY WE DISAGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS.

AND SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND RECEIVE THAT PROCLAMATION.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. MISS BHAT-PATEL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. CHEN, FOR SHARING WHAT YOU DID JUST NOW, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY THE CONCERN THAT I HAD SHARED IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW THE SPEAKER WHO HAD COME WAS WAS GREAT.

SHE DID A GOOD JOB IN ARTICULATING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT WAS MORE AROUND THE IDENTITY, IDENTIFICATION OF THE ORGANIZATION AND WHO THEY WERE ASSOCIATED WITH WAS A PARTISAN GROUP.

AND SO I THINK THAT IS WHERE MY CONCERN WAS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I TOTALLY GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAYOR, THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO SAY WHEN THEY COME UP HERE. OBVIOUSLY WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AND HOPEFULLY AS, AS IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST WILL CONTINUE TO SEE HOPEFULLY FOLKS BEING RESPECTFUL OF THE PROCESS AND WANTING TO BE A PART OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DO UP HERE AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK AS LONG AS MAYBE WE DO REMIND FOLKS OF THE POLICY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE TIGHTEN UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE LANGUAGE AROUND, MAYBE THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, BUT ALSO WE ARE MINDFUL THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BRING IN PARTISAN ORGANIZATIONS INTO THE CONVERSATION THAN I THINK WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. MR. COLTER I HAVE TO PUSH BACK BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT I SEE AS PARTISAN IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO I'M STILL LANDING ON, EVEN IF YOU ALL WANT TO DO YOUR PROCLAMATIONS IN THESE CHAMBERS, I PREFER TO DO MINE IN THE ROTATION IN THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THE NEXT STEP, I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE DISCONTINUE THE PROCLAMATIONS IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN DO IT IN THE COMMUNITY AT THEIR CHOICE.

AND THAT I WILL AGREE TO LIBERALLY ISSUE THE PROCLAMATIONS.

EXCEPT FOR THE TWO THE CITY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO BEGIN. WE'LL VOTE ON IT, AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES AND THEN GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL. BUT LET ME MAKE A COMMENT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT TO CHANGE POLICY, I HAVE TO HAVE FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. YOU CAN CERTAINLY. YES.

TO CHANGE THE POLICY, YOU NEED FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

YOU CAN CERTAINLY DIRECT US TO MAKE REVISIONS WITH JUST THREE VOTES.

BUT IF WE BROUGHT THE REVISIONS BACK, WE WOULD NEED FOUR VOTES TO APPROVE THEM.

AND YOUR MOTION NEEDS A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY, LET'S VOTE ON THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL. OKAY. THAT DOES NOT PASS IN A 2 TO 3 VOTE.

SO WHAT IS WHAT IS THE NEXT SUGGESTION FOR SOMEBODY TO MAKE A MOTION? I'M JUST MAKING A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY LOOK BACK AND JUST REFINE WHO OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE.

SO, LIKE 501C3, 501C6 AND IF THERE'S OTHER 501 OR OTHER IRS ORGANIZATION TYPES THAT CAN FALL UNDER THIS, THAT WE CAN INVITE, I WANT TO BRING AS MANY AS WE CAN.

I JUST DON'T I JUST DON'T WANT IT SO THAT IT LOOKS EITHER PARTISAN IN NATURE, PACK IN NATURE, ANYTHING WHERE IT'S A POLITICAL PERSUASION GROUP, IF YOU WILL.

THAT'S ALL. LET ME LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. TONIGHT WE HAD CRADDOCK STROPES RECEIVE IT.

EXCELLENT RECIPIENT. BUT SHE'S NOT PART OF A 501, SO SHE.

OH, NO. JUST IN REGARDS TO, IN THE STATEMENT OF POLICY, THE THIRD ONE OF WHO WE CAN PROCLAIM, WE HAVE OTHER GROUPS THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO BRING IN.

BUT I JUST I JUST THINK IF, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, THE IRS CODE THAT THE LIKE, LET'S SAY THE LET'S JUST BRING THEM UP THE WOMEN'S

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I THINK THEY ENDORSE AND THEY DO ALL OF THAT. RIGHT, SO NO, THEY'RE 501C3? OKAY. THEY DO NOT DONATE TO CANDIDATES. THEY DO NOT ENDORSE CANDIDATES.

THEY HELP IN OTHER WAYS. BUT THEY ARE NOT A PAC.

THEY DO NOT RAISE MONEY FOR CANDIDATES, THEY CAN PROMOTE NAME RECOGNITION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEY DO NOT GIVE DIRECTLY TO CANDIDATES. THEY DO NOT. IT'S NOT A PAC.

IT'S NOT LIKE AN IRS FILED ORGANIZATION. YES, THEY ARE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S A 501C3, BUT NOW.

BECAUSE YOU CANNOT BE A 501C3 AND HAVE A POLITICAL NATURE INVOLVED.

IT'S LIKE YOU CAN'T IF YOU'RE UNDER THIS FEDERATION.

IT'S THAT THE NATURE OF THE FEDERATION. THAT'S PROBABLY THE CLARIFICATION.

IT'S 527. OKAY. SO YEAH. SO 527 IS. IT'S STILL A NONPROFIT, BUT.

IT'S POLITICAL IN NATURE. RIGHT. SO THEN THAT'S WHY I WANTED CLARIFICATION, NARROW THE SCOPE DOWN TO LIKE A 501C3, 501C6 AND THEN OTHERS THAT COULD BE APPLICABLE.

THAT'S NOT LIKE EXCLUDE AND JUST MAKE IT THOSE TWO BUT REALLY, TRULY MAKE IT WHERE IT'S YOU KNOW, WHERE WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE GOING DOWN TO WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ISSUED TO DOWN BELOW ON THE STATEMENT OF POLICY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION? MOTION, BUT MAYBE JUST TO HELP YOU WITH THE MOTION, IS THAT YOU ASK STAFF, NOW THAT THEY'VE LISTENED TO OUR ARGUMENTS, ALL OF OUR COMMENTS, SEE WHAT STAFF CAN COME UP WITH AND BRING BACK IN THE FUTURE.

OH, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THE SAME THING, MAYOR, THAT IT'S REALLY THE DIRECTION IS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS TEAM WITH OF COURSE, OUR OFFICE WILL ASSIST WITH WHATEVER LEGAL ANALYSIS THEY NEED.

SO THE MOTION IS THROUGH TO THE CITY MANAGER TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT HOW WE CAN REFINE THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION STATUS.

THERE'S A COMMENT OR COMMENT, MISS ACOSTA. YES.

FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. SO I JUST WANT TO NARROW IT DOWN.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION STATUS.

IS THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING MATTERS OF A POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS NATURE.

LIKE A POLITICAL CLUB IS A POLITICAL. THAT IS VERY CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT A PROCLAMATION WOULD NOT BE ISSUED FOR THEM.

BUT TO GO BACK, I GUESS, TO THE RECEIVING, IT'S FINE.

IF THEY BELONG TO THE CLUB, IT'S FINE IF THEY'RE EVEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE CLUB.

BUT IF THEY'RE SPEAKING AS THE CLUB PRESIDENT AND TALKING ABOUT THEIR CLUB WORK, THEN THAT IS BRINGING IN THE POLITICAL CLUB OR RELIGIOUS, LIKE IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING AND SAYING THEIR CHURCH DOES THIS AND THAT.

THEY COULD BE A PREACHER, THEY COULD BE AHEAD OF A CHURCH. BUT TO BRING THAT INTO GOVERNMENT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A POLICY NOT TO DO.

SO I JUST THINK THAT FILTER IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND IT MIGHT IT MIGHT BE THAT WE DESIGNED THIS KIND OF PUTTING THAT ONUS ON THE MAYOR TO BE THE FILTER FOR IT.

AND IF THAT IS NOT CLEAR ENOUGH, THEN THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT STRENGTHENING THE POLICY.

SO THAT THAT FILTERING IS CLEAR. I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD PROCESS.

I THINK THOSE WERE OUTLYING INCIDENTS THAT WE HAD.

AND AT LEAST IN THE THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE, I HADN'T SEEN THAT UNTIL THIS YEAR, THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WHEN THE REPUBLICAN CLUB RECEIVED THE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. AND KNOWING A BIT ABOUT THEIR ORGANIZATION, LIKE, I UNDERSTAND THEY DO A LOT OF CHARITABLE WORK, BUT THEY DON'T SPEAK FOR ME. AND IT WAS A WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH PROCLAMATION.

I FELT ACTUALLY QUITE EXCLUDED BECAUSE I'M NOT A PART OF THEIR GROUP, AND THEY WERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THEIR CLUB.

OF COURSE, WE'RE BOTH WOMEN. SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THINGS IN COMMON.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF KEEPING THINGS AS GENERIC AND NEUTRAL AS POSSIBLE SO AS NOT TO OFFEND OR OFFEND OR INSULT PEOPLE, I THINK IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO I DO SUPPORT THE MOTION.

I'M JUST HOPING FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD TIGHTEN, TIGHTEN OUR LANGUAGE SO THAT NOBODY IS OFFENDED OR UPSET.

OKAY. SO I BELIEVE MR. SHIN'S MOTION IS TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE INPUT AND COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL HAS MADE AND ASK STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS. NOW, FOR THEM TO DO THAT, THAT'S GOING TO ONLY NEED THREE VOTES BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A COUNCIL CHANGE.

MS. BURKHOLDER. OH, YES, PLEASE. THERE'S BEEN MANY TIMES WHERE I HAVE FELT UNCOMFORTABLE IN THE READING OF PROCLAMATIONS IN THESE CHAMBERS, SO I RESPECT THAT. I CAN MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

I WOULD JUST EXCLUDE MYSELF FROM PARTICIPATING IN CHAMBERS AND CONTINUE TO PUSH PROCLAMATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY.

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I JUST DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. I'D RATHER GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND DO IT IN THE AREN'T WE A TEAM, THOUGH? NOT REALLY. I MEAN, WE ARE ON COUNCIL.

WE ACTUALLY ARE ON A TEAM. WE HAVE TO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, SO I MIGHT AS WELL DO THE PROCLAMATION. I VIEW IT DIFFERENTLY.

I MEAN, EVEN IF WE HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM. SO IF YOU'RE NOT PRESENT, THEN OUR ENTIRE TEAM IS NOT PRESENT. SO I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. I'M GOING TO BE PRESENT.

YOU JUST SAID YOU'D WALK AWAY FROM THE CHAMBER DURING A PROCLAMATION. NO, MA'AM. SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND. I JUST DON'T NEED TO READ A PROCLAMATION DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING. I CAN GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND DO THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING. SO YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THE ROTATION? CORRECT. YEAH.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. I MISUNDERSTOOD, I APOLOGIZE. OH, NO.

JUST PART OF THE ROTATION. OKAY, COOL. THANKS.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY, THAT PASSES 4 TO 1. SO WE WILL HAVE STAFF COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION OR SOME IDEAS TO TIGHTEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME, MAYOR. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY, THANKS. THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR MEETING.

BUT I THINK WE STILL HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY I KNOW WYATT DANIELS HE LEFT EARLY. SO I AM LUCA TUVO.

I'M THE SECOND SPEAKER. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS LUCA TUVO.

THOUGH I WAS NOT BORN IN THE UNITED STATES, I HAVE LIVED HERE IN CARLSBAD FOR NEARLY ALL OF MY LIFE. GROWING UP IN THIS CITY.

I'M TRULY AMAZED AT HOW FORWARD THINKING AND RESILIENT IT CONTINUES TO BE LEADING SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SUSTAINABLE LEGISLATION SUCH AS THE SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAN AND VARIOUS CITY AND STATEWIDE RECYCLING PROGRAMS. BUT I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE PAST.

I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK TO YOU AS TO HOW I BELIEVE WE CAN KEEP THIS POSITIVE MOMENTUM GOING THROUGH 2026, 2027 AND 28 AND BEYOND. IT IS OUR DUTY TO KEEP PUSHING OUR CITY FORWARD IN REGARDS TO THE BATTLE AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE, RATHER THAN REVEL IN PAST SUCCESSES, AND IS PRECISELY FOR THIS REASON THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE TO IMPLEMENT RENEWABLE ENERGY INTO OUR COMMUNITIES.

FOR STARTERS, I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY SHOULD FOLLOW IN CALIFORNIA'S FOOTSTEPS BY REQUIRING THE INCLUSION OF SOLAR PANELS ON ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

THESE WOULD IDEALLY BE SUBSIDIZED BY CITY TAXES TO OFFSET THE EFFECTS IT HAS UPON BUSINESSES AND PROFIT MARGINS.

OPPONENTS OF THESE SUBSIDIES WOULD ARGUE THAT THIS WILL LEAD TO A POTENTIAL INCREASE IN TAXES, AND I ADMIT IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT WE SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD THE ALTERNATIVE SURPASSING THE TIPPING POINT OR THE CRITICAL AMOUNT OF CLIMATE CHANGE AT WHICH ENVIRONMENTAL RECOVERY BECOMES IMPOSSIBLE. A MARGINAL INCREASE IN TAXES IS A PRICE THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE WILLING TO PAY TO SEE OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN PROSPER IN THE LANDS WE CALL HOME.

NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC GAIN WHICH THE CITY COULD SEE BY CHOOSING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PLANS FOR CITY RUN SOLAR FARMS IN CARLSBAD. THIS PROJECT, ASIDE FROM CREATING MANY JOBS AND CONTRIBUTING TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY, WOULD DISTINGUISH OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY AS FAST ACTING AND FORWARD MOVING.

ALONGSIDE OUR DESALINATION PLAN, THIS PROJECT DEMONSTRATES THE VALUES WHICH OUR CITIZENS HOLD HIGHEST.

INNOVATION, SUSTAINABILITY AND PROSPERITY. CURRENTLY, THE CITY RELIES HEAVILY ON NATURAL GAS AND IN THIS I APPLAUD THEM.

FOR NATURAL GAS IS AN EXCELLENT TRANSITIONAL FUEL AWAY FROM COAL.

NONETHELESS, I PLACE THE EMPHASIS UPON THE WORD TRANSITIONAL.

WE, NOT JUST AS A CITY, BUT AS A NATION AND CULTURE, FIND OURSELVES IN THE MIDST OF A PERIOD OF TECHNOLOGICAL TRANSITION.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN AS LARGE OF A SHIFT BETWEEN ENERGY SOURCES SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, AND IT NOW FALLS INTO OUR HANDS TO DO THE TRANSITIONING.

LET US NOT FALL STAGNANT ON THE FENCE BETWEEN THE FIELDS OF FOSSIL AND SUSTAINABLE, BUT BE BOLD IN THE FIGHT FOR OUR FUTURE.

AT THIS TIME, I SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT I'M AWARE THAT CARLSBAD PLANS TO PHASE OUT NATURAL GAS DOWN THE ROAD. WHAT I WOULD ASK OF THE COUNCIL IS THAT, IN CONJUNCTION WITH MY AFOREMENTIONED OBJECTIVES TO DEVELOP SOLAR ENERGY, THE CITY SEEKS TO COMPLETELY SHIFT RELIANCE FROM NATURAL GAS TO SOLAR BY 2035.

IN CARLSBAD, LAND CURRENTLY USED FOR NATURAL GAS COULD BE FLIPPED AND FITTED FOR SOLAR FARMING.

IN ACCORDANCE TO THIS GOAL, AND THE LOSS OF JOBS IN THE NATURAL GAS SECTOR WOULD BE MORE THAN MADE UP FOR ON THE BACK END IN THE SOLAR SECTOR.

AS I LEAVE YOU WITH MY FINAL REMARKS, I ASK THAT YOU CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHAT I HAVE SAID TO YOU TODAY NOT IN SPITE OF MY AGE.

I'M 16, BY THE WAY, BUT BECAUSE OF IT. BECAUSE IT IS US WHO WILL PAY IN THE YEARS TO COME.

SHOULD WE CHOOSE WHAT IS EASY OR WHAT IS CHEAP.

COUNCIL. THANK YOU. AND I YIELD THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME TO THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. IF I WERE A BETTING MAN, I WOULD SAY YOU WERE ON THE SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM. MODEL UNITED NATIONS. OKAY. IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM IS JASON HABER.

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CLOSING COMMENTS, MR. SHIN? YEAH. WE WENT I ATTENDED THE SANDAG BOARD RETREAT HERE IN CARLSBAD.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

LET'S CELEBRATE THIS. SO ON THURSDAY, MAY 15TH FROM 5 TO 8 AT THE CALIFORNIA CENTER OF THE ARTS IN ESCONDIDO, MY ALUM, CAL STATE SAN MARCOS COLLEGE OF BUSINESS, IS DOING THEIR SENIOR EXPERIENCE TRADE SHOW, WHERE ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, I THINK IT'S OUR HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT, HAS A EXHIBIT THERE AS WELL.

SO THERE'LL BE OVER 600 BUSINESS LEADERS THERE.

IT'LL BE FUN. I'LL BE ATTENDING. THAT'S IT. MISS BURKHOLDER.

THANK YOU. THIS IS A BIT OF A LONG ONE, BECAUSE I JUST CAME OFF OF MY ADVOCACY TRIP TO DC LAST WEEK.

THE FIRST MEETING I HAD WAS AT THE WHITE HOUSE WITH THE LADY NAMED CHRISTINE GLASSNER, THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS.

I TALKED WITH HER EXTENSIVELY ABOUT HUD AND THE WINDSOR POINT ISSUES THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING WITH THE REALLY OPENING UP THE RECIPIENTS OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WELL, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TO SIMILARLY AS THE VASH RECIPIENTS, THE VETERANS WHERE THEY ARE MANDATED CASE MANAGEMENT UPON ENTERING INTO THAT LEASE THERE AT WINDSOR POINT.

SHE ASKED ME, DO WE HAVE A MEETING WITH HUD? AND I SAID WE COULDN'T GET ONE. SO SHE AGREED TO HELP FACILITATE A VIDEO CONFERENCE WITH HUD IN THE FUTURE.

AND I KNOW STAFF IS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH HER STAFF ON THAT.

MOVING ALONG TO THE RAYBURN BUILDING. MET WITH CONGRESSMAN JAY OBERNOLTE, HIS OFFICE.

AND MUCH OF THOSE ACTUALLY CAN CONGRESSMAN KEN CALVERT CONGRESSMAN DARRELL ISSA AND CONGRESSMAN DOUG LAMALFA ALL TALKING ABOUT ISSUES WITH HUD TRENCHING IN THE VILLAGE AND YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE IN CARLSBAD, WENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS WELL, AND HAD A MEETING WITH THEIR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS INDIVIDUAL AS WELL AS FOUR STAFFERS. WE HAD APPLIED FOR A GRANT LAST YEAR.

WE DID NOT GET THE GRANT. THE STAFFERS WERE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US WITH SOME LANGUAGE.

YOU KNOW, HOW TO TIGHTEN UP OUR GRANT APPLICATION SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE STRENGTH IN THAT.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO RESUBMIT THAT THEN DID MEET IN PERSON.

FORTUNATELY, WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVE, MIKE LEVIN, I WANTED TO THANK HIM FOR THE VASH VOUCHERS BECAUSE HE DID REALIZE THAT THE THE VETERANS WERE MAKING TOO MUCH MONEY TO QUALIFY FOR WINDSOR POINT.

SO HELPING US OUT THAT WAY. AND I ALSO INVITED HIM TO OUR GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE VETERANS PARK, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON VETERANS DAY. SO HE'S WORKING ON THAT.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HE'S WORKING ON IS ADVOCATING FOR FEDERAL FUNDING TO BE RETAINED IN THE DISTRICT AND TO BE REPURPOSED INSTEAD OF RETURNED TO D.C.

WITH ALL OF THE CUTS AND THE STUFF THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION, HE'S BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT BECAUSE HE BELIEVES WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY BETTER IN DISTRICT RATHER THAN SENDING IT BACK TO D.C..

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I SPOKE WITH HIM ABOUT WAS DREDGING AND GETTING SAND ON OUR BEACHES, WHICH SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM ALL THE TIME. SUGGESTING THAT PERHAPS ALL OF OUR COASTAL CITIES BUY A DREDGE AND JUST RUN IT UP AND DOWN THE COAST ALL THE TIME.

WELL, HE LOVED THAT IDEA, BUT HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY DOES OWN A DREDGE. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S BROKEN, SO HE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO WHAT THAT ENTAILS AND REPAIRING.

BUT HE FULLY RECOGNIZES THAT WE NEED SAND ON THE BEACH.

I MENTIONED PONTO BEACH IN PARTICULAR WITH ALL THE ROCKS AND EVERYTHING DOWN THERE.

IT'S PROBLEMATIC. AND FINALLY, THE TASTE OF CARLSBAD VILLAGE BRUNCH STYLE.

IS THIS SATURDAY, 11 TO 2. COME OUT AND JOIN US.

IT SHOULD BE A REALLY FUN TIME. IT ALWAYS IS WHEN WE DO THE EVENING ONE. THANK YOU.

MS. ACOSTA. THANK YOU. THIS MORNING, THE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MET IN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND COUNCILMEMBER BURKHOLDER AND I SAT HERE FOR THREE HOURS, ALMOST DISCUSSING STATE LEGISLATION WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVES OFFICES. CONGRESSMAN LEVIN, SENATOR BLAKE SPEER, AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER BERNER'S OFFICES WERE PRESENT.

WE ALSO HAD PRESENTATIONS FROM THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION, WHERE WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING AND ASKED QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS.

WE HAD A GROUP REPRESENTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VOICES TALK ABOUT A POTENTIAL BALLOT MEASURE THAT WOULD REINFORCE OUR POSITION ON PROTECTING LOCAL CONTROL, AND WE DISCUSSED TAKING POSITIONS ON BILLS IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.

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BUT I DO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO WATCH THE VIDEO AND SEE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THERE YESTERDAY.

ON MONDAY, THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES SAN DIEGO COUNTY DIVISION MET.

AND WE ALSO SHARED UPDATES WITH OTHER CITIES IN THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY AREA AND DISCUSS SOLUTIONS FOR FOOD INSECURITY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE THINK FOOD INSECURITY IS IN CARLSBAD, BUT WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OF QUITE A FEW FOOD INSECURE FAMILIES.

WE HEARD PRESENTATIONS FROM THE SAN DIEGO HUNGER COALITION, FEEDING SAN DIEGO AND THE SAN DIEGO FOOD BANK, WHICH HAS A LOCATION IN NORTH COUNTY AND VISTA THAT DISTRIBUTE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF FOOD PER YEAR IN NORTH COUNTY. SO WE JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE FOOD INSECURE FAMILIES HERE IN CARLSBAD, AND WE ARE WORKING TO HELP PROVIDE FOOD FOR THEM.

THANK YOU, MISS BHAT-PATEL. YES. THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAD A GOOD MOTHER'S DAY.

I KNOW PRIOR TO THAT WE HAD AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.

WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION. SOME OF IT YOU SAW TODAY.

AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO DEVELOP OUR YOUNG TALENT HERE AND ENSURING THE PIPELINE OF OUR WORKFORCE THAT IS VERY STRONG HERE IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN I KNOW THE MAYOR AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING CITY STUFF WITH ONE OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY MY ALMA MATER, AVIARA OAKS ELEMENTARY.

SO IT WAS COOL. ACTUALLY, I GOT TO RUN INTO SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS KIDS, BUT ALSO A FORMER CLASSMATES KID, WHICH WAS REALLY FUN TO RUN INTO. AND THEN WE HAD OUR LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES DIVISION MEETING, WHICH YOU ALREADY HEARD ABOUT. THERE'S ALSO A TOUR OF THE TIJUANA RIVER VALLEY THIS FRIDAY FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S COMING UP. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT REGULAR BOARD MEETING ON THURSDAY, AND THE MEMORIAL PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL RUN ON SATURDAY THAT I'LL BE PARTICIPATING IN.

THANK YOU. SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A REAL CONCERN WITH OUR RESIDENTS IS THE SLOW DETERIORATION OF OUR LOCAL CONTROL CAUSED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SO RECENTLY, I WAS IN CONTACT WITH THE MAYOR OF HUNTINGTON BEACH.

HUNTINGTON BEACH, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN THE POSTER CHILD FOR PUSHING BACK ON THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

I EXCHANGED A LOT OF IDEAS WITH THE MAYOR OF HUNTINGTON BEACH AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MISS MCMAHON, ALSO SPOKE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY OF HUNTINGTON BEACH, LEARNED A LOT.

AND FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS. FOR THE EARLY RISERS ON THE COUNCIL, THURSDAY, MAY 15TH AT 7 A.M..

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

NOTHING THIS EVENING. CITY ATTORNEY. NOTHING, THANK YOU.

CITY CLERK. WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.