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>> IT'S FIVE O'CLOCK. I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE TAKE ROLE.
[CALL TO ORDER]
>> COUNCIL MEMBER BURKE COLDER.
>> ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS SERVING AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS NUMBER 4 AND DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGERS REPORT ITEM NUMBER 14.
NEXT IS THE PLEDGE. CITY CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.
>> NEXT IS A REPORT OUT ON CLOSED SESSION.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OUT?
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THERE WAS NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
I HAVE TO READ THE FOLLOWING.THE BROWN ACT AND THE CITY'S MEETING RULES ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS ARE REGARDING MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCILS SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS RELATE TO THE QUESTION OR MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION.
INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.
THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN MAKING YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY, AND RESPECT.
WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.
THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THE 2.5 MINUTE MARK THE PODIUM WILL TURN YELLOW, GIVING YOU NOTICE THAT YOU ONLY HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.
I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE THREE MINUTES.
THAT WAY, EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK.
PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.
>> GARY GONZALEZ, FOLLOWED BY GARY NELSON.
>> COUNCIL MEMBERS. DURING THIS TUMULTUOUS TIME OF TRAFFIC TREPIDATION, I HAVE COME TO SHARE SOME GOOD NEWS.
I COME INTO CAPACITY AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ASSOCIATION TODAY.
THREE YEARS AGO, A RAGTAG GROUP OF REBELLIOUS AVIATORS WERE TASKED WITH HELPING SOME SCOUTS GET THEIR BADGE IN AVIATION, AND WE HELD A SMALL YOUTH AVIATION DAY FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE KIDS.
LAST YEAR, THAT EVENT WAS ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED BY THIS COUNCIL AS YOUTH AVIATION DAY.
THIS YEAR, THE EVENT, WHICH WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 13 AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
THE EVENT IS APPARENTLY GOING TO DOUBLE IN SIZE.
WE ARE EXPECTING OVER 800 PEOPLE, OVER 400 OF WHOM WILL LIKELY BE KIDS.
JUST IN OUR EARLY RSVP SESSION, WE HAVE OVER 200 KIDS SIGNED UP FOR YOUTH AVIATION DAY.
AND WHAT IS YOUTH AVIATION DAY? IT IS ALL ABOUT INTRODUCING THE CHILDREN OF OUR AREA TO AVIATION.
WILL HAVE OVER 16 LEARNING STATIONS, OVER A DOZEN PLANES, A HELICOPTER.
WE WILL HAVE DISCOVERY FLIGHTS WHERE SOME LUCKY CHILDREN WILL ACTUALLY GET TO FLY.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTY COMING TO SPECIFICALLY EDUCATE THE KIDS AT ONE OF 16 DIFFERENT LEARNING STATIONS, AND IT GOES ON AND ON FROM THERE.
THIS YEAR, WE ARE EVEN PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE SPONSORSHIP AND REPRESENTATION FROM NOT ONLY THE MIDWAY MUSEUM, BUT TAIL HOOK, THE NAVY FIGHTERS WHO LAND ON AIRCRAFT CARRIERS.
IT IS ONE HECK OF AN EVENT, AND IT IS 100% FREE FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND.
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS SEND US AN RSVP SO WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF OUR NUMBERS.
THE RSVP GOES TO PAA, INITIALS, PAAEVENTSPLUS@GMAIL.COM AND SPECIFY THE NUMBER OF ADULTS THAT ARE COMING AND THE NUMBER OF KIDS AND THEIR AGES.
THE AGES ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT HELPS US TAILOR EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS TO SPECIFIC AGE GROUPS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THOSE.
WE MAY NEED SOME HELP FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, PERHAPS ANOTHER DECLARATION, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO PUTTING ON A REAL GOOD ONE FOR THE KIDS THIS YEAR.
>> GARY, WHEN YOU SAID PAA EVENTS.
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>> PAA EVENTS PLUS AND IT'S PLUS SPELLED OUT @GMAIL.COM.
>> AND WHAT WAS THE DATE AND TIME AGAIN?
>> IT IS GOING TO BE SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, FROM NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TILL 1:00 P.M. AT THE CARLSBAD JET CENTER.
THEY'VE GIVEN US THEIR BIGGEST HANGER THIS YEAR.
THEY'RE MOVING SOME OF THE HUGE JETS OUT OF THE WAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO FILL IT UP.
>> HANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
ONE, SINCE YOU'RE THE WATER DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES.
I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER CHANGING THE WAY YOU BILL TO GO BY GALLONS INSTEAD OF UNITS.
REALLY, FOR THE PUBLIC OR ANYONE ELSE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY UNITS I'M I USING AM I SAVING, PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT.
THERE'S NO REASON YOU CAN'T POLATE GALLONS SO THAT THE BILLING IS THE SAME THING.
THEY JUST USE 703 GALLONS INSTEAD OF THREE QUARTERS OF A UNIT OR WHATEVER IT IS.
CONSIDER DOING THAT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN DEAL WITH EVERYONE IN GALLONS OR ENGLISH, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT AS.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE GRAND PROMENADE.
I'M LOOKING FOR SOME OF YOU TO STEP UP AND PUSH THE GRAND PROMENADE, WHICH IS TAKING GRAND AVENUE IN THE VILLAGE AND MAKING ABOUT TWO THIRDS TO HALF OF IT PEDESTRIAN ON ONE SIDE ONLY.
THE OBJECTIVE IN DOING THIS IS TO CREATE AN EVENT SPACE AND OPEN SPACE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IN THE VILLAGE.
BECAUSE AS WE INCREASE THE DENSITY IN THE VILLAGE, YOU REALLY NEED OTHER THINGS LIKE PARK LAND AND MORE WALKING SPACE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO GET IT.
THAT'S A PLACE THAT YOU CAN GET THAT EXTRA WALKING SPACE.
IN ADDITION, IT'S A NICE FUND RAISING AREA.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE OUR FARMERS MARKET ON STATE STREET THAT WE CLOSED, WHICH IS COSTLY TO DO.
BUT WE CAN EXPAND THE FARMERS WAR.
WE CAN KEEP IT WHERE IT IS AND WHEN IT NEEDS TO EXPAND, WHICH MAKES IT MUCH MORE PROFITABLE.
IT CAN GO AROUND THE CORNER ON THE SIDE OF GRAND AVENUE THAT'S CLOSED ALREADY BECAUSE IT'S PEDESTRIAN.
GRAND IS STILL OPEN FOR TWO WAY TRAFFIC.
THE MORE EVENTS THAT WE WOULD DO THERE, WHEN WHOEVER WANTS TO RUN THE DOWNTOWN VILLAGE COMES UP WITH A PLAN TO DO THAT, YOU NEED MORE FUNDS.
IF YOU WANT THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION OR A NEW MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION TO RUN THINGS DOWN THERE AND TAKE CARE OF THE PLANTS AND TAKE CARE OF THE HOMELESS THAT ARE DOWN THERE AND DO THOSE ITEMS ON THEIR DIME INSTEAD OF THE GENERAL CITIZENS DIME, WE HAVE TO MAKE WAYS FOR THEM TO MAKE MORE MONEY SO THEY CAN TAKE THOSE ITEMS OVER.
OTHER CITIES, MAIN STREETS DO A LOT OF THAT STUFF FOR YOU, INSTEAD OF IT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
PART OF THAT IS A DEAL TO ALLOW THEM TO RAISE MORE MONEY, AND THE GRAND PROMINENT IS ONE WAY THEY HAVE A SPACE TO DO THAT.
WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT.
IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, NO MAINSTREET CAN COME IN AND TAKE OVER THAT WITH DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> GARY, WILL YOU PLEASE TALK WITH AMANDA ABOUT THE WATER ISSUE AND SHE CAN EXPLAIN PROS CONS AND WHETHER IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE.
>> THAT'S THE FINAL SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
, ITEM 11 OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS TO APPROVE THE AMENDED AND RESTATED EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER.IF THE AGREEMENT IS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER'S ANNUAL BASE PAY WILL INCREASE BY 4% TO $304,860.40 ANNUALLY.
DO WE ONLY HAVE THE ONE SPEAKER ON ITEM NUMBER 4?
>> WE NOW HAVE TWO SPEAKERS FOR NUMBER 4.
SIGRID TERANE AND LISA CARHONAN.
I'LL READ THIS. IT'LL BE BETTER.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE AN ENTHUSIASTIC THANK YOU FOR ADOPTION OF THE ALERT CALIFORNIA WILDFIRE CAMERA, WHICH WILL SERVE COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING THE PRESERVE AND BEYOND, AND THIS IS THE RANCHO LA COSTA PRESERVE.
THE CAMERA WILL ALLOW FASTER RESPONSE TO FIRES, WHICH IS KEY TO KEEPING THEM FROM SPREADING AND POTENTIALLY BECOMING UNCONTROLLABLE.
MY THANK YOU'S ALSO EXTEND TO OUR NEIGHBORING HOA LA COSTA ALTA,
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WHOSE HOA MEMBERS REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CAMERAS AFTER WATCHING THE LA FIRES, AND THEN RESEARCH HOW TO GO ABOUT GETTING ONE.LA COSTA ALTA AND LA COSTA RIDGE THEN COLLABORATED ON THE APPLICATION TO CSDS ALERT CALIFORNIA, WHICH RESPONDED ENTHUSIASTICALLY IN JUST DAYS.
CARLSBAD FIRE MARSHAL DARCY DAVIDSON THEN SHEPHERDED THE PROJECT THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
WE'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN ADVANCING FIRE PROTECTION FOR CARLSBAD.
>> I LIVE IN LA COSTA ALTA COMMUNITY AND WAS WORKING WITH SIGRID AS WELL, AND SHE ALREADY MENTIONED THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CAMERAS LIKE WITH THE LA FIRES THAT RECENTLY OCCURRED.
THE NEIGHBORING PRESERVE THAT THIS CAMERA WOULD MONITOR CONTAINS 1,640 ACRES OF CHAPARRAL, WHICH IS HIGHLY FLAMMABLE.
THE PRESERVE ALSO HAS A HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINE SYSTEM AND ALSO HAS HIKING TRAILS.
BASED ON EVEN THE ECOLOGICAL SOCIETY OF AMERICA, IT SAYS, MODERN FIRE FREQUENCIES ARE MUCH HIGHER IN CHAPARRAL, DRIVEN LARGELY BY HIGH DENSITIES OF HUMAN IGNITIONS.
JUST THIS PAST JANUARY, WE HAD A FIRE RIGHT IN THE BOX CANYON AREA.
IF THIS SAME SITUATION OCCURRED AT NIGHT, THE AI CAMERA COULD ACTUALLY PICK THAT UP.
I THINK PUTTING IN A AI CAMERA THAT CAN MONITOR THE PRESERVE 24/7 WOULD BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO MAKE CARLSBAD A LITTLE BIT SAFER. THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS?
>> MAYOR. BEFORE THE COUNCIL VOTE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THERE IS ONE UPDATE TO ITEM NUMBER 6.
YOU RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL MATERIALS MEMO TODAY, PROVIDING YOU WITH AN UPDATED RESOLUTION, AND UPDATED "REFLECTING A NEW LOWER COST OF 89,600 INSTEAD OF I THINK $139,000.
WHEN YOU VOTE, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON THAT UPDATED RESOLUTION.".
>> WE CAN STILL VOTE ON THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU.
ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOOSE TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS? COMMENTS ON ANY OF THE ITEMS. MOTION, PLEASE.
>> PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM 12 IS THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS OF
[12. MAYORAL APPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION]
TWO MEMBERS TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION. DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS?>> MY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO REAPPOINT CHRISTOPHER SHANE HORTON AND TO REAPPOINT CHICH WU CHANG.
CONGRATULATIONS TO CHRISTOPHER AND CHICH WU.
>> MAYOR, FOR THE RECORD, THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS ON THAT ITEM.
>> THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS ON THAT ITEM.
[13. THE ROOSEVELT SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN (SDP 2024-0001 / DEV2024-0001) ]
IT'S PUBLIC HEARING, THE ROOSEVELT SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN CITY MANAGER.>> THANK YOU. ITEM 13. THE ROOSEVELT SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL BE PRESENTED BY CITY PLANNER ERIC LARDY AND SENIOR PLANNER KYLE VAN LEWIN.
>> THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE PROJECT PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT IS THE ROOSEVELT PROJECT.
IT IS A REQUEST FOR A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A MIXED USE STRUCTURE WITHIN THE VILLAGE EMBARIO MASTER PLAN AREA.
THE PROJECT LOCATION IS A 0.46 ACRE LOT ON ROOSEVELT STREET WITHIN THE VILLAGE GENERAL DISTRICT OF THE MASTER PLAN.
THE SITE CURRENTLY HOLDS A TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING OF APPROXIMATELY 8,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES 23 APARTMENT UNITS, APPROXIMATELY 5,400 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE.
THE BUILDING EXTENDS TO A FOUR STORY BUILDING HEIGHT, AND THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES TWO DENSITY BONUS REQUESTS, A 50% DENSITY BONUS FOR DEDICATION OF TWO VERY LOW INCOME UNITS, AND A 50% DESICCATION TO MODERATE INCOME FAMILY UNITS.
IN LINE WITH DENSITY BONUS STATE LAW, THE PROJECT DOES INCLUDE TWO CONCESSIONS AND EIGHT WAIVERS FROM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OR CITY REQUIREMENTS.
THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE VILLAGE BARRIO MASTER PLAN AND IS SUBJECT TO THE VILLAGE & BARRIO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE DESIGN TYPE THAT THE PROJECT EXHIBITS IS THE CALIFORNIA CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, AND THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THOSE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS,
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EXCEPT FOR FIVE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT ARE WAIVER REQUESTS.IN TERMS OF THE SITE, THE GROUND FLOOR HAS FIVE TENANT SPACES FOR COMMERCIAL USES, LOBBY ENTRANCE FOR THE UPPER STORIES, AND A PEDESTRIAN ALLEY OR COURTYARD, AND 24 RESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACES.
THE SECOND STORY HAS TWO OFFICE SUITES, 10 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND OPEN COURTYARD FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AS WELL AS BIKE STORAGE AREAS.
THE THIRD STORY HAS 13 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH FOUR OF THOSE UNITS EXTENDING TO FOUR STORY FOR AN UPPER STORY ROOM OR AND DECK.
HERE'S THE MAIN ELEVATION ON THE TOP THAT WOULD BE SEEN FROM ROOSEVELT STREET, AND THE LOWER ELEVATION ARE THE COMMERCIAL SUITES ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT AGAIN, ARE FACING THE PEDESTRIAN ALLEY OR COURTYARD FOR THE PROJECT.
THE DENSITY CALCULATIONS FOR THIS PROJECT ARE THAT THE SITE HAS A BASE DENSITY PER THE VILLAGE & BARIO MASTER PLAN OF 11 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
FOR THE DEDICATION OF TWO OF THOSE UNITS TO VERY LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, THE PROJECT CAN RECEIVE A 50% DENSITY BONUS, AS WELL AS FOR THE DEDICATION OF TWO UNITS TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, SECONDARY 50% DENSITY BONUS.
THOSE 11 UNITS TIMES 50% COMES UP TO SIX UNITS EACH FOR A TOTAL OF 23 UNITS.
>> THE PROJECT DOES INCLUDE TWO CONCESSIONS OR INCENTIVES, AGAIN, IN LINE WITH STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW.
THE FIRST CONCESSION IS TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CURRENT WATER MAIN WITHIN ROOSEVELT STREET BE UPSIZED FROM A SIX INCH WATER MAIN TO AN EIGHT INCH WATER MAIN, AND A CONCESSION REQUEST TO WAIVE ALL PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROJECT.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS PROJECT IS WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE COASTER STATION, AND THE COMMERCIAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE ALREADY GREATLY REDUCED FROM 20 NORMALLY REQUIRED TO FIVE THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE PRODUCT DOES INCLUDE WAIVER OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
THE FIRST IS A WAIVER OF THE FIVE FOOT MINIMUM FRONT SETBACK, THREE FEET IS PROPOSED, WAIVER OF THE 35 FOOT AND THREE STORY HEIGHT LIMIT, FOUR STORIES AND 45 FEET IS PROPOSED.
WAIVER OF PARKING STALL DIMENSION REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PARKING GARAGE.
THERE ARE SOME COMPACT PARKING SPACES THAT ARE SMALLER THAN TYPICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING GARAGE.
WAIVER FOR THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH LIMIT MIXED USE BUILDINGS FOR DISTRICTS OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE GENERAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS A LARGE MIXED USE PROJECT, SO THAT WAIVER WAS REQUESTED.
WAIVER OF THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT 50% OF THE FLOOR AREAS FACE THE PRIMARY STREET, WAIVER OF OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR 75% OF THE GROUND FLOOR FIRST FLOOR FRONTAGE TO BE WINDOWS.
OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARD WAIVER FOR THE UPPER STORIES TO OCCUPY THE FULL GROUND FLOOR FOOTPRINT, AND A WAIVER OF THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, CALLING FOR 90% OF THE FIRST FLOOR SHOP FRONT TO BE TRANSPARENT OR CLEAR MATERIAL.
IN TERMS OF STAFF'S REVIEW, STAFF DOES FIND THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE SECTIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, CONSISTENT WITH THE VILLAGE OF BARRIO MASTER PLAN AND CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS AND STATUTES OF STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID REVIEW THIS PROJECT ON APRIL 2 OF THIS YEAR AND DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT, THE VOTE OF 4-0 WITH THREE COMMISSIONERS ABSENT FOR THAT MEETING.
REGARDING THE CALIFORNIA EVENT ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT OR CEQA, THE DETERMINATION OF A SQA EXEMPTION IS PART OF COUNCIL'S PURVIEW FOR THIS PROJECT TONIGHT.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND THE APPLICABLE STUDIES AND FINDS THAT THE PROJECT BELONGS TO A CLASS OF PROJECTS THAT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PREPARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS, SUCH AS AN INITIAL STUDY OR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, AND A DRAFT NOTICE OF EXEMPTION HAS BEEN INCLUDED WITH THE STAFF REPORT AS EXHIBIT 6, ALONG WITH THE APPLICABLE STUDIES PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT TO ESTABLISH THE PROJECT'S ELIGIBILITY FOR THIS EXEMPTION.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT THE PROVIDED RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CEQA EXEMPTION DETERMINATION AND THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> YES. GARY NISSIM, FOLLOWED BY SOCORRO ANDERSON.
>> MR. MAYOR, THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, WE USUALLY WOULD DO AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION PRIOR TO THE SPEAKERS.
>> THANK YOU. MR. NISSIM I SAVED YOU A SEAT RIGHT THERE IN FRONT.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME, MR. LARDY.
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>> COUNCIL, AND THANKS TO CITY STAFF FOR THE THOROUGH REVIEW OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
THE PROJECT IS CALLED THE ROOSEVELT, AS HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN THE NORTHERN NODE OF ROOSEVELT STREET IN THE VILLAGE.
I WANTED TO TAKE JUST A MINUTE REALLY QUICK BECAUSE I THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND OUR FIRM.
OUR COMPANY NAME IS FABRIC, AND WE ARE BASED HERE IN CARLSBAD VILLAGE ON STATE STREET AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.
THIS IS OUR EIGHTH PROJECT IN THE VILLAGE.
SO TO SAY THAT WE ARE A LOCAL INVESTOR I THINK IS ADEQUATE AND ACCURATE.
FOR US, THIS IS ABOUT LONG TERM INVESTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE AND WORK AND PLAY IN.
WE HOPE THAT OUR PREVIOUS WORK IS A TESTAMENT TO THE QUALITY OF WHAT WE INTEND TO BUILD HERE WITH THIS PROJECT.
YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS IN THE VILLAGE, STATE STREET COMMONS, WHICH WAS THE OLD ANTIQUE MALL, WHICH IS NOW LOFTY AND P TACO WARNER BROTHERS, NICK AND SABES, THAT WE DID JEUNE ET JOLIE AND THE KILN CO WORKING SPACE, A LITTLE MIXED USE PROJECT ON BEACH AND ROOSEVELT, AND THEN SOME OF OUR OTHERS ALONG STATE STREET, INCLUDING THE RESERVE, SURF FLABS, AND TYROS HEADQUARTERS.
JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON RELEVANT PROJECT EXPERIENCE.
THIS IS A PROJECT WE JUST FINISHED LAST YEAR IN SOUTH OCEANSIDE, WHICH WAS HAILED BY THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION AS A REALLY GREAT MODEL FOR INFILL USING DENSITY BONUS, BUT BY MAINTAINING APPROPRIATE SCALE AND GREAT DESIGN FEATURES THAT REALLY ENHANCED THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN TERMS OF ITS WAY IT WAS RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY AND BY THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIVING THERE AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOW FLOURISHING IN THE RETAIL FRONTAGE.
THIS IS A COAST HIGHWAY AND VISTA WAY.
GOING IN A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE ROOSEVELT PROJECT, APPROXIMATELY A HALF AN ACRE LOT.
LARGELY, THIS IS A THREE STORY PROJECT IN LINE WITH THE VILLAGE GENERAL ZONING.
THE ONLY AREA THAT WE ACTUALLY ELEVATE TO A FOURTH STORY IS ON THE VERY WESTERN PORTION OF OUR LOT, WHICH ACTUALLY ABUTS AND SHARES A PROPERTY LINE WITH VILLAGE CENTER ZONING.
VILLAGE CENTER ZONING, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE STATE STREET SIDE, ACTUALLY HAS A 45 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT.
IN THEORY, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PROPOSING TO TOWER OVER ROOSEVELT STREET WITH A STORY STRUCTURE.
WE JUST ADD SOME LOFTED UNITS ON THE VERY BACK ONE THIRD OF THE PROJECT BACK, MEANING THE WEST SIDE.
THIS IS AN INTERIOR LOT WITH NO ALLEY.
PLANNING SOMETHING THAT'S VERY VIBRANT FROM A MIXED USE STANDPOINT WAS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING.
WE INITIALLY STARTED WITH A MASSING THAT COVERED THE ENTIRE LOT OR THE MAJORITY OF THE LOT, AND ULTIMATELY ELECTED TO PEEL BACK OUR DEVELOPMENT TO ROUGHLY COVERING THREE QUARTERS OF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE LOT, LEAVING ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE LOT OPEN AIR, AND THAT WOULD BE THE NORTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY.
BY DOING SO, WE GAVE SOME ARCHITECTURAL RELIEF TO OUR NEIGHBORING PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, WHICH AS MANY OF YOU MIGHT KNOW IS NOW WILDLAND AND LILO, OUR NEWEST MICHELIN STAR RESTAURANT IN THE VILLAGE.
WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS A NICE AMOUNT OF BREATHING ROOM TO GIVE THAT BUILDING AND WHAT THEY HAD GOING ON AT A SINGLE STORY SCALE.
ALSO, BY DOING SO, WE ENDED UP CREATING A PRIVATE PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN PLAZA.
SOMETHING I THINK GARY POINTED OUT, WHICH I AGREE IS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE VILLAGE LONG TERM IS CREATING GREAT OPEN SPACE ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S INEVITABLY GOING TO COME.
WE HAVE A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT, PEDESTRIAN ONLY COBBLESTONE PAVERD PLAZA WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY.
IT'LL BE WELL LANDSCAPED AND LINED WITH SMALL SHOP AT.
THESE ARE MEANT TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL STORES LIKE A FLOWER SHOP, MAYBE A LITTLE COFFEE SHOP, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT IN ART GALLERY. WE'RE EXCITED.
THIS IS GOING TO BE CALLED ROOSEVELT ALLEY.
LITTLE CONTEXT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BETTER AERIAL VIEW OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, HIGHLIGHTED IN WHITE.
WE'RE REALLY NOT SPARING ANY EXPENSE IN TERMS OF THE MATERIALITY.
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WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY HIGH QUALITY, SUSTAINABLE, THAT ENHANCES THE VILLAGE FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT, THAT NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT OCCUPY THE BUILDING ARE PROUD OF, BUT ALSO THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.WE REALLY DID MAX OUT THE PARKING.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S THE HOT TOPIC FOR MOST PROJECTS, AND WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO OPTIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING WE CAN PROVIDE IN AN INFILL FORMAT LIKE THIS, OBVIOUSLY, WITHOUT GOING SUBTERRANEAN, WHICH MAKES THE PROJECT INFEASIBLE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR LOT COVERAGE IS AN AT GRADE GARAGE WITH AS MANY PARKING SPOTS AS WE COULD THEORETICALLY FIT ABOVE THAT TO THE NORTH, YOU HAVE FIVE SMALL RETAIL STORES THAT LINE OUR PLAZA WAY.
EVEN ON ROOSEVELT STREET, ALL WE REALLY HAVE IS A GARAGE ENTRY, A LOBBY, TO THE BUILDING AND ONE RETAIL STOREFRONT.
WE REALLY WANTED TO DEDICATE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP PART OF THIS MAP, A LARGE PORTION OF OUR SITE TO A PUBLIC PLAZA.
AS WAS MENTIONED, WE'RE WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE TRANSIT CENTER, WHICH TO ME IT MEANS CERTAIN THINGS FROM A STATE LAW OR CODE PERSPECTIVE, BUT TO ME, IT ALSO MEANS THAT THIS PROPERTY IN THE MIXED USE FORMAT HAS THE ABILITY TO DRAW PEOPLE IN FROM DIFFERENT WAYS OF MOBILITY ON BIKE, ON FOOT, BY TRANSIT OR WITH CAR.
THIS IS A LOOK DOWN WHAT ROOSEVELT ALLEY MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
AS YOU MENDER AROUND THE DIFFERENT LITTLE SHOPS OR MEET A FRIEND FOR A GLASS OF WINE, REALLY WELL LANDSCAPED.
LIKE I SAID, THE COBBLESTONE PAVERS, AND THEN JUST DIRECTLY TO YOUR RIGHT, YOU HAVE A MICHELIN STAR RESTAURANT IN LILO.
REALLY CREATING A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE, LIKE A SENSE OF DISCOVERY FOR PEOPLE THAT FIND THE PROJECT.
THEN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, YOU HAVE A GENEROUS OUTDOOR SPACE, A TERRACE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO ENJOY THE OUTDOOR SPACE AS WELL.
THERE'S A COUPLE UPDATED RENDERINGS FROM THE CITY STAFF PRESENTATION.
THE TOP LEFT WOULD BE AS IF YOU WERE STANDING IN THE PARKING LOT AT LILO, LOOKING DIRECTLY SOUTH.
ENVISION THAT WE TOOK THE FENCE DOWN THAT WE ARE GOING TO BUILD.
YOU WOULD SEE THIS NICE LITTLE EUROPEAN STYLE TOWN SQUARE.
LIKE I SAID, FIVE DIFFERENT RETAIL STORES AVERAGING 700 SQUARE FEET EACH.
IT'S REALLY GOING TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS TO FIND A REALLY COOL AND HIGH LEVEL SPACE TO MOVE INTO, BUT ALSO TO LEVERAGE EACH OTHER'S CUSTOMERS AND CREATE A UNIQUE SENSE OF PLACE AROUND THIS PLAZA.
THEN THE FRONT ELEVATION ALONG ROOSEVELT ON THE TOP RIGHT.
THESE ARE SOME MORE NIGHT TIME VISION.
I REALLY WANT TO CREATE AN INTIMATE FEEL AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY DOWN THE PLAZA IN THE EVENING.
>> IS THAT THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR PRESENTS?
>> ANY QUESTIONS? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I CAN COME BACK FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT TO HEAR.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I'M GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING, MR. NISSIM, YOU'RE UP.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE VILLAGE REDEVELOPMENT MANUAL, THIS IS THE PROJECTS WE HAD IN MIND, OTHER THAN THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE HEIGHT AND SETBACKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE IDEA WAS TO GET A NICE MIXED USE PROJECT WITH A LOT OF COMMERCIAL IN IT SO WE COULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE LIVING HERE AND MORE PEOPLE ENJOYING THE COMMERCIAL PARTS THAT THEY CAME HERE FOR, THEY DIDN'T COME HERE AND WE CHASED OUT ALL THE RESTAURANTS BY MAKING THEM ALL FOUR STORY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
I LIKE THAT. I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT IF THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THE FIVE WAIVERS THAT THEY GOT, SINCE YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED EVERYONE'S ASKING FOR THOSE SAME WAIVERS, THAT RATHER THAN WAITING THEM TO ASK FOR THOSE WAIVERS, THAT WE GO BACK TO OUR VILLAGE REDEVELOPMENT MANUAL AND PUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN THERE.
BECAUSE ONCE YOU ALLOW A FEW FIVE STORY SECTIONS, THAT YOU'RE PUTTING SOMEONE ADJACENT TO IT AT A DISADVANTAGE IN THE FUTURE.
IF THE STATE DOESN'T MAKE YOU COMPLY WITH THOSE BY GIVING WAIVERS, SOMEONE'S HAVING TO GO HAS AN ECONOMIC DISADVANTAGE.
RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A BIG ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE TO WHAT FABRIC IS DOING VERY SUCCESSFULLY AND A REALLY GOOD JOB ON SEVERAL PROJECTS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO GO UNDERGROUND FOR PARKING BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE COMPONENT AND THAT'S KEPT THE VILLAGE FROM DEVELOPING FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT BY GETTING THAT EXTRA STORY AND THE SETBACKS AND THE BONUS DENSITY, SUDDENLY EVERY LOT IN THE VILLAGE PENCILS OUT, AS LONG AS YOU GET A DENSITY BONUS.
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YOU MIGHT AS WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE STORY BUILDINGS NEXT TO EACH OTHER IN THE VILLAGE CORE AREA, ALLOW THAT A LITTLE MORE.ALSO, WHEN YOU CONSIDER VOTING FOR THIS, WHICH I IMAGINE YOU'RE ALL GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS, LIKE THE OTHER PROJECTS, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT IF THERE WERE OBJECTIONS TO THIS, WHICH I DON'T THINK THERE ARE THAT MANY, BUT IF THERE WERE THE PROJECT WAS BIGGER, THAT YOU HAVE TO OCCASIONALLY WANT TO VOTE, NO, AND CONSIDER BEING SUED TO NEGOTIATE.
BECAUSE NOBODY'S GOING TO NEGOTIATE WITH PEOPLE THAT WON'T CONSIDER VOTING NO.
YOU'RE JUST FALLING OVER BACKWARDS FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING IN.
IF YOU JUST VOTE NO, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO SUE YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, LET'S NEGOTIATE AND WHAT CAN WE GET AND COMPROMISE? THEN IF YOU CAN'T COMPROMISE, THEN THEY MIGHT SUE YOU.
BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS FALL BACK TO THE POSITION OF WHAT YOU DIDN'T WANT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> MAYOR, SOCORRO ANDERSON, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICE, FATHER RAYMOND MOOR HALL.
I ONLY HAVE TWO QUESTIONS IN REFERENCE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
ONE, THE CONCESSION TO WAIVE ALL COMMERCIAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT UNDER STATE LAW. I GET THAT.
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS YOU HAVE 23 UNITS AND 24 RESIDENTIAL PARKING SPACES.
ARE WE ASSUMING THAT THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE ONE VEHICLE RESIDENTIAL? I'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING THAT SAYS, WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THESE UNITS? ARE THERE TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOMS, ONE BEDROOMS? ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ONE DRIVER, TWO DRIVERS, THREE DRIVERS? IF YOU HAVE 23 UNITS AND 24 PARKING SPACES, IF YOU'VE GOT A TWO BEDROOM WITH TWO DRIVERS OR THREE, WHERE ARE THE OTHER TWO GOING TO GO? THAT'S MY QUESTION IS, I'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING THAT TELLS ME THE SIZE OF THESE APARTMENTS OR UNITS, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF DRIVERS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PARKING ON THE STREET, AND WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS ALREADY IN THE BARRIO AND IN THE VILLAGE WITH PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND TRYING TO FIND PARKING AND THE TRAFFIC THAT'S INVOLVED IN ALL THIS.
THE QUESTION I'M ASKING, I GUESS, IS, WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THESE UNITS?
>> MR. LARDY, ARE YOU ABLE TO ANSWER TWO QUESTIONS, THE SIZE OF THE UNITS, BUT ALSO THE PARKING ISSUES?
>> I'M LOOKING FOR AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT PRIMARILY THE APARTMENTS ARE ONE BEDROOM UNITS. BRENDON.
>> ONE BEDROOM UNITS, [INAUDIBLE] BEDROOM UNITS.
>> WOULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT WHAT HE SAID?
>> THAT WAS 21 ONE BEDROOM UNITS AND TWO, THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
>> DID I UNDERSTAND THREE, TWO BEDROOM UNITS?
>> THERE'S ONLY THREE TWO BEDROOM UNITS IN THE WHOLE REST OF ONE.
>> COULD YOU ADDRESS THE PARKING LAWS?
>> SURE. THIS PROJECT IS PRIMARILY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF TWO LAWS RELATED TO PARKING.
ONE IS IT IS WITHIN A HALF MILE OF TRANSIT DISTRICTS.
AB2097 IN 2022 REMOVED THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THAT AREA, EXCEPT FOR EV AND ADA SPACES.
THIS PROJECT, THOUGH, IS PROVIDING SOME PARKING, AND THEY'RE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT A DENSITY BONUS PROJECT WOULD REQUIRE FOR PARKING, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY ONE SPACE PER UNIT.
>> TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE SIMPLER TO UNDERSTAND, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS SAID THAT THEY ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ONE SPACE PER UNIT. IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> THAT IS ACCURATE, AND THAT IS ACCURATE CITYWIDE.
>> OKAY. THE CITY CAN'T CONDITION IT TO HAVE MORE PARKING SPOTS THAN THAT, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES, MS. BURKHOLDER?
>> FIRST, I'M GOING TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING.
DO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY DISCLOSURES TO MAKE? MS. BHAT-PATEL.
I MET WITH THE APPLICANT ON APRIL 21ST TO CHAT REGARDING THE APPLICATION.
>> YES. I MET WITH THE APPLICANT, BRENDAN FOOTE FROM FABRIC, ON MAY 1ST TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT, BUT I RECEIVED NO PRINTED MATERIALS.
I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WASN'T PRESENTED TODAY.
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>> ANY OTHER DISCLOSURES? I ALSO MET WITH MR. FOOTE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE PROJECT.
>> I'VE DEFINITELY MET WITH BRENDAN BEFORE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION AND THEN I DO HAVE COMMENTS TO THE PROJECT.
HOW DID PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FROM DISTRICT 1 VOTE WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE THEM?
>> I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS FROM DISTRICT 1, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY AND COMMISSIONER BURROUGHS, AND THEY WERE BOTH ONE OF THE THREE ABSENCES THAT EVENING.
>> DISTRICT 1 HAD NO REPRESENTATION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN IT WAS A 4-0 VOTE BECAUSE OF THREE ABSENCES, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> WHEN WE HAVE ABSENCES FORM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE DO LET THE APPLICANT KNOW AND OFTEN THEY WILL ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE BECAUSE WITH PLANNING COMMISSION YOU HAVE TO NO MATTER HOW MANY ARE THERE GET FOUR YES VOTES FOR IT TO MOVE FORWARD.
THEY CHOSE NOT TO CONTINUE THE ITEM AND TO HAVE THE HEARING THAT EVENING AS IT WAS PART OF THE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE TO HOLD TO FOR CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COMMENTS. MR. SHIN.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I'M GLAD THE MAYOR WAS ABLE TO JUST TALK ABOUT STATE OVERREACH, SO WE CAN NOT TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.
I JUST REALLY WANT TO GIVE SOME PRAISE TO A COMPANY LIKE FABRIC WHO DECIDED TO COMMIT THEIR TIME AND PLANTING THEMSELVES HERE IN THE VILLAGE.
WE HAVE PARKING ISSUES, OF COURSE, BUT SOME OF IT IS ALSO BECAUSE OF DESIRABILITY.
SOME OF IT IS THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE CREATED THAT CREATE AN ATTRACTION FOR FOLKS, RESIDENTS, VISITORS TO BE ABLE TO GO THERE.
I'M NOT IN DISTRICT 1, BUT I FREQUENT DISTRICT 1 FOR CERTAIN REASONS.
SOME OF THEM ARE YOUR ESTABLISHMENTS.
I THINK THAT'S ONE BIG THING TO BE SAID THAT WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING IS THAT WE HAVE TWO MICHELIN STAR RESTAURANTS WITHIN A STONE THROW AWAY, WHICH REALLY SHOWS THE TYPE OF CULTURE THAT WE'RE CREATING IN THE VILLAGE.
THEN ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S JUST THE RISK OF THE FACT THAT FROM BUSINESS OWNERS, FROM DEVELOPERS, TO RESTAURATEURS, TO PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST OPEN UP MOM POP SHOPS HAVE TO ENDURE TO JUST BE ABLE TO TAKE ON THOSE RISKS TO SEE IF THEY CAN MAKE IT AND THRIVE.
FOR AS MUCH AS I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS CHALLENGES WITH PARKING, NOT JUST NOW, BUT IN THE FOREVER FUTURE UNTIL WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE STATE. THAT'S ALL.
>> THANK YOU. WHILE WE ALL UNDERSTAND STATE HOUSING LAWS THAT WE MUST FOLLOW ARE OVERBEARING AND IMPOSE UNFUNDED MANDATES, THIS PROJECT'S PROPOSED PARKING IS WILDLY INADEQUATE.
DEVELOPERS CAN CHOOSE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS OR NOT, AND IN THIS DESIGN, THEY'RE SIMPLY SLAPPING US IN THE FACE WITH GROSS NEGLIGENCE IN THE PARKING SPACES BEING PROPOSED.
I CAN'T VOTE YES FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT WILL IMMENSELY AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.
SPECIFICALLY, THE BUSINESSES WHO ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO GET PEOPLE IN THE DOORS BECAUSE OF INADEQUATE PARKING IN THE VILLAGE.
IT WOULDN'T MATTER IF WE HAD FIVE MICHEL FIVE-STAR RESTAURANTS NEXT DOOR.
IF THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK, PEOPLE WON'T GO TO THEM.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I LOVE TO SEE THE RENDERINGS TODAY.
IT'S A VERY GOOD-LOOKING PROJECT, AND OBVIOUSLY, THE PROJECTS IN THE AREA THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY THE SAME DEVELOPER ALSO LOOK REALLY NICE IN THOSE PICTURES.
THE PARKING ISSUE IS STILL AN ISSUE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE DOING REGULAR PARKING SURVEYS AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THE PARKING ISSUES.
BUT I DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE LACK OF PARKING, REGARDLESS IT'S STATE LAW.
WE KEEP TRYING TO FIGHT, AND WE WILL CONTINUE FIGHTING AND TRYING TO PROTECT OUR LOCAL CONTROL.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION NOW BUT TO APPROVE THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW, AND IT IS A GOOD-LOOKING PROJECT, SO I WISH THEM WELL, AND I WILL SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU.
>> I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT BOTH MS. BURKHOLDER AND MS. ACOSTA SAID.
IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT THERE ISN'T MORE PARKING SPOTS IN THE AREA.
THE STATE LAW OVERRIDES OUR AUTHORITY TO DEMAND EXTRA PARKING SPOTS.
BUT I ALSO WILL SAY THAT THE PROJECT, OTHER THAN THE PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING, IS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT, AND I'M GLAD THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS DECIDED TO TRUST CARLSBAD WITH THIS PROJECT, SO I'LL BE VOTING YES FOR TWO REASONS.
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ONE IS THE STATE LAW REQUIRES IT, BUT ALSO BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A VERY BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MOTION, PLEASE.
>> MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION.
>> PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES 4-1, NOTING MS. BURKHOLDER'S COMMENTS.
[14. OPTIONS FOR BARRIO TRAFFIC CALMING]
>> ITEM 14, ARE OPTIONS FOR THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CALMING.
THE PRESENTATION WILL BE GIVEN BY TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, TOM FRANK.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
I'M TOM FRANK, THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER.
THE OBJECTIVES OF THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT IS FOCUSED ON SLOWING VEHICLE SPEEDS TO ADDRESS RESIDENT COMPLAINTS AND TO IMPROVE ROAD SAFETY.
THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE LOCATIONS AS PRESENTED ON JUNE 24TH.
THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLE PROJECT WAS DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDE SIGNIFICANT INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY, STARTING BACK IN 2014 AND THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE PLAN IN 2018.
ON JUNE 24TH, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO RETURN WITH OPTIONS TO INCLUDE THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT TO THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT AS STAFF PRESENTED, AS WELL AS ALTERNATE OPTIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
THESE OPTIONS WOULD INCLUDE ALTERNATIVES WITHOUT TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND THOSE WITH A HYBRID THAT COULD INCLUDE ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
STAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT PARKING DEMAND AND LACK OF PARKING IN THE BARRIO IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY.
IF THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD WITH ALL FIVE TRAFFIC CIRCLES, 27 PARKING SPACES WOULD BE REMOVED.
AN ADDITIONAL 11 SPACES ARE BEING REMOVED, WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, DUE TO A NEW STATE DAYLIGHTING LAW, WHICH RESTRICTS PARKING WITHIN 20 FEET OF MARKED OR UNMARKED CROSSWALKS OR 15 FEET IF THERE ARE CURB EXTENSIONS.
OUR BASIS FOR THE PARKING ANALYSIS USES 22 FEET PLUS OR MINUS A FOOT, WHICH FOLLOWS CALIFORNIA MANUAL ON TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES OR MUTCD AND CONFORMS WITH OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
THERE ARE EXISTING PARKING SPOTS IN THE VILLAGE MARKED AT 22-24 FEET.
RECENTLY, IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE BEEN MARKING SHORTER PARKING SPOTS TO THE LENGTH OF 21 FEET TO ADDRESS THE OVERNIGHT RV PARKING.
FOR FUTURE PARKING STUDIES, WE WILL CONTINUE TO USE 20 FEET FOR CONSISTENCY, AS COMPLETED IN THE 2025 PARKING STUDY FOR THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO AREAS.
FOR DETAILED TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, LIKE THIS PROJECT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE CALIFORNIA MUTCD AND COMPLY WITH OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
IN REVIEWING THE VEHICLES PARKING IN THE SUBJECT AREAS OF THE BARRIO, THERE ARE NOTABLE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT EXCEED 20-FOOT LENGTHS, LIKE EXTENDED CREW CAB AND LONG BED TRUCKS, WHICH WOULD NOT FIT IN 20-FOOT PARKING SPOTS, PLUS ADDITIONAL SPACE IS NEEDED FOR MANEUVERING IN AND OUT OF THE PARKING SPOTS.
REGARDLESS OF WHAT OPTION THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES TONIGHT, STAFF WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH PROJECTS TO INCREASE PARKING IN THE BARRIO USING A THREE-PHASED APPROACH.
THE FIRST PHASE IS RELATED TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S MINUTE MOTION MADE ON MARCH 4TH, DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ASSESS ADDITIONAL PARKING OPPORTUNITIES ON MADISON STREET AND EAST FROM MADISON ON CHESTNUT STREET.
STAFF HAS STARTED THE ANALYSIS AND INITIATED WORK WITH A CONSULTANT TO HELP PREPARE PRELIMINARY ALTERNATIVES.
FROM OUR INITIAL REVIEW WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PARTNERS, WE HAVE POTENTIALLY IDENTIFIED MORE THAN EIGHT PARKING SPACES ON MADISON AND FIVE SPACES ON CHESTNUT.
WE ARE TARGETING A REPORT ON THE SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
A SECOND SEPARATE PHASE TO GAIN ADDITIONAL PARKING IS TO CONTINUE OUR ANALYSIS OF THE EXISTING RED CURB.
FROM ADDITIONAL REVIEWS OF THE BARRIO AREA, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE POTENTIAL REMOVAL OF RED CURBS THAT WOULD RESULT IN OVER 14 ADDITIONAL SPACES.
THIS WORK IS TARGETED TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF NEXT MONTH.
THIRD, FUTURE PHASE INCLUDES EVALUATING CONVERTING PARALLEL TO DIAGONAL PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE EAST-WEST STREETS THAT ARE 48 FEET OR WIDER,
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LIKE PINE AND PALM STREETS.THE EFFORT WOULD INCLUDE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND VETTING THROUGH THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY COMMISSION AND A REPORT WITH ANY RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THIS EVALUATION IS TARGETED FOR COMPLETION IN 2026.
WE'RE PRESENTING THE THREE OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION, [NOISE] WITH EACH OPTION ASSOCIATED WITH TWO RECOMMENDED ACTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL AND THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ACTION.
OPTION 1 INCLUDES FIVE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND ASSOCIATED RECOMMENDED ACTIONS 1 AND 2.
OPTION 2 INCLUDES ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, RECOMMENDED ACTIONS 3 AND 4.
OPTIONS 3, NO TRAFFIC CIRCLES, RECOMMENDED ACTIONS 5 AND 6.
THE PROS AND CONS FOR EACH OPTION INCLUDE OPTION 1.
JUST TO MENTION A FEW OF THE PROS.
TRAFFIC CIRCLES AT FIVE LOCATIONS WOULD PROVIDE TRAFFIC CALMING WITHOUT REQUIRING A COMPLETE STOP, A PORTION OF THE FEDERAL GRANT WOULD FUND THE PROJECT, AND THE PUBLIC ART AT PINE AVENUE AND HARDING STREET IS PROPOSED AS A GATEWAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE CONS INCLUDE, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT LOSS OF PARKING AT THE FIVE INTERSECTIONS AND SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
OPTION 2, THE PROS INCLUDE ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE WITH OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, ADDRESSING SPEEDING AND MINIMIZING LOSS OF PARKING, AND PUBLIC ART AT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT PINE AVENUE AND HARDING STREET WOULD SERVE AS A GATEWAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
REDESIGNING THE PROJECT WOULD DELAY THE IMPROVEMENTS ADDRESSING THE SPEEDING AND THE SAFETY CONCERNS, [NOISE] AND SOME OF THE FEDERAL GRANT WOULD NEED TO BE RE-OBLIGATED BY SEPTEMBER 30TH.
OPTION 3, THE PROS INCLUDE DESIGN WITHOUT TRAFFIC CIRCLES WOULD BE SIMPLER AND COULD BE DESIGNED, PERMITTED, AND CONSTRUCTED FASTER THAN OPTIONS 1 AND 2.
PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LOST BY TRAFFIC CIRCLES WOULD REMAIN USABLE.
AS THE CASE WITH OPTION 2, [NOISE] THE WATER AND THE SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE MAY BE RE-EVALUATED. THE CONS.
REDESIGNING THE PROJECT WOULD DELAY IMPLEMENTING IMPROVEMENTS TO ADDRESS SPEEDING AND SAFETY CONCERNS.
SOME OF THE FEDERAL GRANT IS EXPECTED TO BE LOST IF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE, AND THE PUBLIC ART PROPOSED THAT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT PINE AVENUE AND HARDING STREET WOULD NEED TO BE RE-ENVISIONED.
THE CITY WORKED WITH US REPRESENTATIVE MIKE LEVIN TO SECURE $5 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDING TO HELP OFFSET THE NEARLY 11.5 MILLION CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND THE BARRIO STREET LIGHTING PROJECT.
STAFF HAS DISCRETION ON THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE GRANT FUNDS BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS.
INITIALLY, STAFF PLANNED TO DISTRIBUTE THE FIVE MILLION BY ASSIGNING FOUR MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND ONE MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LIGHTING PROJECT.
FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL'S MEETING ON JUNE 24TH, STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH CALTRANS STAFF WHO ARE WORKING WITH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION TO REDISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS MORE EVENLY BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS.
OUR PLANS ARE NOW TO SPLIT THE FIVE MILLION EVENLY BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS.
DURING RECENT DISCUSSIONS WITH CALTRANS AND THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, THE CITY WAS ALSO INFORMED THAT THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF TRAFFIC CIRCLES REQUIRED TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE GRANT IS ONE.
SHOULD THE CITY ADOPT A RECOMMENDATION TO NOT INCLUDE AT LEAST ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, THE CITY WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE 2.5 MILLION OF THE $5 MILLION GRANT THAT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
FOLLOWING JUNE 24TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, STAFF CONDUCTED PUBLIC OUTREACH TO GATHER FEEDBACK ON THIS PROJECT.
OUTREACH INCLUDED UPDATING PROJECT WEB PAGES.
SENDING A NEWS RELEASE TO THE MEDIA.
INCLUDING INFORMATION IN THE CITY MANAGER'S UPDATE NEWSLETTER.
EMAILING THOSE WHO SIGNED UP AT THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO PROJECT UPDATES.
MAILING LETTERS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH TO MORE THAN 01,900 RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA.
SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, INCLUDING NEXT DOOR THAT REACHED OVER 34,000 PEOPLE.
THEY DISTRIBUTED FLYERS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH TO COMMUNITY FACILITIES, SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES, LOCAL BUSINESSES THROUGH SUMMER RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS IN THE AREA.
LASTLY, IN-PERSON OUTREACH TO SPANISH-SPEAKING RESIDENTS IN THE BARRIO.
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THE COMMUNITY WAS INVITED TO PROVIDE INPUT IN THREE WAYS: COMPLETING AN ONLINE FORM, EMAILING THE CITY CLERK, OR ATTENDING THIS EVENING'S MEETING.THE ONLINE FORM WAS OPEN FROM MONDAY, JULY 7TH, THROUGH THURSDAY, JULY 24TH, AND WAS AVAILABLE IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH, AND WE RECEIVED OVER 315 RESPONSES.
OF THE ONLINE FORM RESPONSES WE RECEIVED, THIS CHART SHOWS A BREAKDOWN OF THIS SENTIMENT BETWEEN THOSE WHO SUPPORTED THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED, SUPPORTED SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES, BUT THOUGHT FIVE WAS TOO MANY, AND THOSE WHO OPPOSED TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
THERE WERE ALSO A FEW RESPONSES THAT WERE UNCLEAR, RELATED TO THE TOPIC, OR RELATED TO OTHER TOPICS.
ADDITIONALLY, 22% OF THE COMMENTS MENTIONED CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING.
THE INPUT GATHERED THROUGH THE ONLINE FEEDBACK FORM IS QUALITATIVE AND WAS COLLECTED THROUGH A CONVENIENCE SAMPLE.
AS SUCH, THE RESULTS ARE NOT STATISTICALLY REPRESENTATIVE AND CANNOT BE GENERALIZED TO THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE BARRIO COMMUNITY OR THE BROADER CARLSBAD POPULATION WITHIN A DEFINED MARGIN OF ERROR.
THERE IS NO WAY TO CONFIRM WHETHER THE INDIVIDUAL SUBMITTED MORE THAN ONE RESPONSE THROUGH THE ONLINE FEEDBACK FORM.
THIS INPUT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WITH SIMILAR WEIGHTS AS OTHER FORMS OF FEEDBACK THAT REGULARLY INFORM CITY DECISION-MAKING PROCESS, SUCH AS PUBLIC COMMENTS MADE AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND EMAILS SENT TO THE CITY.
>> WITH THAT, HERE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS WITH THE ASSOCIATED RECOMMENDED ACTIONS AGAIN FOR REFERENCE, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS.
PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKERS.
>> ROBERT WILKINSON, FOLLOWED BY CONAN WHITE.
I'M GOING TO MAKE MY COMMENTS BRIEFER THAN I HAD WRITTEN OUT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF MORE ROUND INTERSECTIONS IN THE CARLSBAD ROAD SYSTEM.
WE ALL KNOW THAT TRAFFIC LIGHTS TEND TO INCREASE THE SPEED OF AUTO TRAFFIC.
YOU SEE THAT THE LIGHT AHEAD OF YOU IS GREEN.
YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THROUGH IT BEFORE IT CHANGES ON YOU.
I LIVE UP BY THE HIGH SCHOOL AND DOWN IN THE VILLAGE ALL THE TIME.
I COME DOWN CHESTNUT, BOTH ON A BIKE AND IN MY VEHICLE.
I SEE THE RESIDENTS IN THE BARRIO TRYING TO CROSS THOSE STREETS, AND THEY LOOK LONG AND FAST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR THEM TO PASS.
YOU CAN JUST SEE THEIR INTERPRETATION.
IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, THERE WAS A GIRL THAT SPOKE.
SHE SAID, I JUST DON'T LIKE THOSE ROUNDABOUTS.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PERFECT STATEMENT.
HAVING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHILE DRIVING THROUGH AN INTERSECTION.
CERTAINLY, PARKING IS AN ISSUE, BOTH IN THE BARRIO AND IN THE VILLAGE, AND I'M WAITING TO SEE THE COUNCIL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
MAKING THE STREET SYSTEM SAFER TO SAVE PARKING IS NOT THE WAY TO SOLVE THE PARKING PROBLEM.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU.
>> CONAN WHITE, FOLLOWED BY DAVID PIERCE.
>> SO I AM PRO-TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
I LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE SPEED UP AND DOWN THE STREET JUST TO GET OFF OF THE FIVE AND TO GET INTO THE VILLAGE.
IT MAKES IT HARD TO BACK OUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUT IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOONS.
THERE ARE SPEEDING CAR CHASES THAT ARE GOING ON.
I'VE SEEN A COUPLE IN THE COUPLE OF MONTHS, WHICH IS SCARY.
WE HAVE KIDS THAT PLAY ALL THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DAY.
WE HAVE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THAT ARE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET EVERY DAY.
I THINK THE STOP SIGNS ARE GREAT, BUT I'VE SEEN PEOPLE RUN THEM IN THE BARRIO MULTIPLE TIMES.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO REALLY STOP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND SLOW IT DOWN.
NO, COMPLETELY STOP IT, OF COURSE, BUT SLOW IT DOWN TO A MINIMUM, AND THAT'S MY PART OF IT. THANK YOU.
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>> DAVID PIERCE, FOLLOWED BY JULIA.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS DAVID PIERCE.
I AM THE OFFICIAL CARLSBAD AMBASSADOR FOR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BIKE COALITION.
I SUPPORT OPTION 1 TO BUILD EVERY SINGLE SAFETY IMPROVEMENT AND KEEP ALL $5 MILLION.
THE REASONS INCLUDE SPECIFICALLY.
THE SENIOR CENTER HAS BUS STOPS RIGHT NEARBY, BUT YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE INTERSECTION.
THE CROSS TRAFFIC DOES NOT HAVE TO STOP.
I'VE TRIED TO CROSS THERE BEFORE, AND THEY DID NOT YIELD TO ME EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE REQUIRED TO.
IMAGINE BEING A RETIREE WHO CANNOT WALK VERY QUICKLY OR DODGE OUT OF THE WAY OF CRAZY DRIVERS TRYING TO CROSS THAT INTERSECTION.
A TRAFFIC CIRCLE WOULD HELP A LOT THERE.
THIS PROJECT WOULD ALSO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC ON THE SIDE STREETS THAT CONNECT TO THE COASTAL RAIL TRAIL BIKE PATH.
OAK AVENUE AND CHESTNUT AVENUE WOULD RECEIVE ADDITIONAL ROUNDABOUTS TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC, SO BICYCLISTS ARE SAFER ACCESSING THE BIKE PATH.
AT THE INTERSECTION OF MAGNOLIA AND MADISON, THERE ARE PROPOSED CURB EXTENSIONS.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE NEARBY JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY, ONE-FIFTH OF THE STUDENT BODY WALKS THERE CURRENTLY, AND THIS WOULD GREATLY IMPROVE SAFETY FOR KIDS WALKING TO AND FROM SCHOOL.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT SOME DRIVERS ARE JUST CRAZY.
THEY ARE UNDAUNTED BY SPEED LIMITS, STOP SIGNS, LANE MARKINGS, OR OBSTACLES OR HUMAN OBSTACLES IN THE ROADWAY.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT IF THESE TRAFFIC CIRCLES ARE BUILT, THEY INCLUDE JUST LIKE THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE ON STATE AND 101 RAMPS FOR BICYCLISTS TO GET OUT OF THE WAY OF CARS AND ASCEND TO THE SIDEWALK TO GO AROUND THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
THEY ARE NOT FORCED TO GET OF INPATIENT DRIVERS.
I HOPE THAT ALL THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES INCLUDE SUCH RAMPS IN THIS PROJECT.
I HAVE A FEW QUOTATIONS FROM PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES YOU MAY RECOGNIZE.
LINDSAY TREMEL'S DEFENSE ATTORNEY SAID, "IN THAT SPLIT SECOND AND IN NOT COMING TO A FULL STOP AT THE STOP SIGN IS WHEN THE ACCIDENT HAPPENED." I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
BOB EMBRY SAID, "12 BROKEN RIBS, A BROKEN CLAVICLE, TWO PUNCTURED LUNGS, MASSIVE HEMOTHORAX AND EVERY VITAL ORGAN IN HER ABDOMEN DESTROYED.
HER AORTA RIPPED OFF HER SPLEEN. YOU KNOW WHAT HURTS ME? SHE WAS CONSCIOUS FOR AN HOUR, ANSWERING QUESTIONS ON HER WAY TO THE HOSPITAL.
MY WIFE SUFFERED THE WAY NO ONE SHOULD SUFFER." HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS WIFE, CHRISTINE HAKAMBRY, WHO WAS RUN OVER BY A SPEEDING DRIVER WHO IGNORED THE STOP SIGN AT BASWOD AND VALLEY IN A 25-MILE-PER-HOUR STREET.
SHE IS SURVIVED BY HER INFANT DAUGHTER AND HUSBAND.
WHICH DO YOU FEAR MORE? JUST ONE MORE CHILD GROWING UP WITHOUT THEIR MOTHER OR LOSING REELECTION.
>> JULIE ADDER, FOLLOWED BY JULIAN LODGE.
MY PERSPECTIVE IS FROM BEING A BARRIO RESIDENT SINCE 1990S, LIVING ON MADISON STREET, WHERE TWO OF THESE CIRCLES ARE PROPOSED.
I DO NOT LIVE IN FEAR THAT I'M GOING TO BE RUN OVER BY A CAR.
PRETTY SOON, I AM GOING TO BE THAT RETIRED LADY UP AT THE SENIOR CENTER, AND I DO NOT LIVE IN FEAR OVER THESE THINGS.
PERSPECTIVES ARE IMPORTANT, AND I REALLY THANK EVERYONE WHO WORKED FOR HONEST, SINCERE BARRIO INPUT ON THIS GO AROUND.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, AND I DO THANK YOU BECAUSE IT TAKES EFFORT, AND IT WAS NOT DONE IN THE PAST.
THERE WAS SOME VERY PECULIAR COMMUNITY INPUT DONE OVER THE YEARS, AND I THANK DR. BOB PATEL FOR ALLUDING TO THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE FIRE CHIEF'S PERSPECTIVE IS.
I THINK HIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MINE, EVEN AS SOMEONE WHO'S LIVES ON THE STREET AND CROSSES THE STREET ROUTINELY.
I THINK THE PEDESTRIANS STIMULATED BY HITTING THE LIGHTS AND THE STOP SIGN AT OAK AND MADISON HAVE DONE WHAT I FEEL NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS A DONE DEAL, AND NOBODY CARED FOR ANY COMMENTS.
UNTIL I SAW THE MEETING WHERE THE FIRE CHIEF MADE THE COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE PROPOSAL WITH ONE TRAFFIC CERVICAL VERSUS THE PROPOSAL WITH THE OTHER ONES, WHICH WAY IS HE GOING? I APPRECIATE EVERY BIT OF INPUT ON TRYING TO INCREASE THE PARKING.
I EVEN HAVE A NEIGHBOR HERE IN THIS ROOM WHO'S OFFERED TO HELP ME BUILD A PARKING PAD.
I PARK ON THE STREET ROUTINELY,
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BUT WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY.IF WE CAN'T GET A FIRE TRUCK CONVENIENTLY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WORKS AS AN AMBULANCE AS WELL.
HOW IS THAT HELPING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY? IF IT'S AN EFFORT AND A LUKEWARM RESPONSE BY THE FIRE CHIEF, THAT CONCERNS ME DEEPLY. THANK YOU.
>> JULIAN LODGE, FOLLOWED BY GARY NESSON.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE IMPACT THAT THIS DECISION WILL HAVE ON THE PUBLIC ART THAT'S BEEN COMMISSIONED BECAUSE THERE'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF ART THAT'S TIED TO THE ROUNDABOUT AT PINE.
THE CARLSBAD BARRIO IS A UNIQUE HISTORIC SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY THAT DESERVES A MONUMENT THAT TELLS THE STORY OF THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT IT.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS QUICKLY GENTRIFYING, AND THE UNIQUE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY HAS BECOME LESS VISIBLE EACH YEAR.
THE RIGHT PERSON TO TELL THAT STORY IS MARIO TORERO.
HE'S HERE TONIGHT, AND HE'S MISSING OUT ON A FAMILY REUNION ON THE EAST COAST TO BE HERE.
HE HAS HISTORIC CONNECTIONS WHO ARE IN MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES IN SAN DIEGO.
HE'S ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE CHICANO PARK, ALONG WITH VICTOR OCHOA, WHO DID THE MURAL ACROSS FROM THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB RIGHT HERE IN CARLSBAD.
MARIO HAS ALREADY INVESTED A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME INTO THIS PROJECT BY DEEPLY LEARNING THE HISTORY OF THE CARLSBAD BARRIO AND INTERVIEWING PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE FROM THE ORIGINAL FOUNDING FAMILIES.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WHATEVER YOUR DECISION IS, I TRUST THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING THE DECISION THAT KEEPS PEOPLE SAFE.
I HAVE A 13-YEAR-OLD OUT ON HIS E-BIKE.
SO WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE, I HOPE THAT THE ART CONNECTED TO THE ROUNDABOUT REMAINS INTACT AND THAT IT REMAINS IN THE HANDS OF THE ARTIST THAT WAS SELECTED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IF IT'S NOT PLACED IN THE ROUNDABOUT, HOPEFULLY, THERE'S A PLACE NEARBY WHERE IT CAN BE INTEGRATED INTO WHATEVER DESIGN YOU DO ULTIMATELY DEEM TO BE THE SAFEST.
THAT'S MY COMMENTS FOR TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> GARY NESSON, FOLLOWED BY SIKORA ANDERSON.
>> THE COMMUNITY STARTED WORKING ON THIS FIVE YEARS AGO, HAVING LOTS OF MEETINGS.
PETER NORBY WAS A CONSULTANT MEETING EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH DIFFERENT BARRIO RESIDENTS IN AFTERNOON AND EVENING MEETINGS, AND THE COMMUNITY REALLY ASKED FOR STOP SIGNS.
AND TO STOP THE TRAFFIC GOING NORTH AND SOUTH AND SLOW IT DOWN.
WE DIDN'T PUT THOSE IN BECAUSE THEY ARE AGAINST THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND EVERYTHING TO KEEP STOPPING THE TRAFFIC.
THEY WAITED ON THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
HERE WE WORKED FOR YEARS ON TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND ADDED THE LIGHTING.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO PUT THOSE TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN, SINCE THAT WAS PART OF THE DELAY FOR YEARS, WAITING TO MAKE THINGS SAFER.
NOW, WE NEED MORE PARKING, BUT THERE ARE ALTERNATE WAYS TO GET MORE PARKING AND PUT PARKING DOWN THE CENTER OF THE STREET LIKE SAN DIEGO HAS ON A FEW STREETS TO REALLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED WAY MORE PARKING IN THE VILLAGE AND WAY MORE PARKING IN THE BARRIO, AND THERE ARE ALTERNATE WAYS TO DO IT.
BLAMING THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES FOR THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
WE HAVE $5 MILLION. WE WORKED HARD TO GET IT.
IT'S BEEN YEARS IN THE MAKING; IT'D BE NICE TO PUT THOSE TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN. THANK YOU.
>> SIKORA ANDERSON, FOLLOWED BY ABBY CHAMBERLAIN.
>> SIKORA ANDERSON, AND I DO NOT LIVE IN THE BARRIO.
I DID FOR MANY YEARS, BUT NOW I DO NOT.
BUT I SPENT 85% OF MY TIME IN THE BARRIO ON MADISON STREET BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MY OFFICE IS, AND I SEE TRAFFIC GO BY EVERY SINGLE DAY AT ABOUT 50-60, AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS, THE CITY IS NOT IMMUNE TO THIS EITHER BECAUSE CITY BUS OR CITY TRUCKS AND CITY CARS GO BY AT THE SPEED LIMIT OF WHAT I JUST EXPLAINED, 40, 50.
NOBODY EVER FOLLOWS THE 25 PER MILE SPEED LIMIT.
I SENT YOU A LETTER, AND I WILL JUST READ A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I'VE SENT YOU JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS.
TOGETHER, THE VILLAGE AND THE BARRIO COMPRISE APPROXIMATELY 325 ACRES, 120 OF THOSE ACRES IS ROUGHLY CONSIDERED TO BE THE BARRIO, WHICH IS TYLER, ROOSEVELT, MADISON, AND HARDING STREET.
IN THESE REALLY CONGESTED AREAS IN THESE STREETS, WITHIN THE CENTER OF THE 120 ACRES THAT MAKE UP THE BARRIO,
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AND WITHIN YOU HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, TWO MONTESSORI CHILDCARE CENTERS, WHICH ARE ON MADISON, A SENIOR CENTER RIGHT AROUND MADISON AND A COMMUNITY CENTER RIGHT AROUND MADISON.A COMMUNITY CHURCH, WHICH IS ON PINE, COMMUNITY GARDENS, TWO BALLPARKS, WHICH ARE USED NOT JUST BY THE BARRIO RESIDENTS, BY THE WHOLE CITY ITSELF, AND FOUR SENIOR AFFORDABLE UNITS, WHICH THE SENIORS WALK CONSTANTLY TO USE THE SENIOR CENTER.
SO I AM HERE, NOT SO MUCH AS TO SAY, DO THIS OPTION, DO THAT OPTION, AND DO THAT OPTION.
DO SOMETHING TO SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO, BUT ALL I DO IS STAND RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY OFFICE AND SEE TRAFFIC, GO BY CONSTANTLY AT 40, 50 MILES PER HOUR ON A 25-MILE-PER-HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON ALL OF THESE STREETS. THANK YOU.
>> ABBY CHAMBERLAIN FOLLOWED BY RAEL VIMAR
>> YOU SHOULD HAVE A CLICKER, AND I'M ABOUT TO START AT THE BEGINNING HERE, SO YOU SHOULD BE READY ONCE THE CITY CLERK, THERE YOU GO.
>> TO PLEASE ACCEPT OPTION NUMBER 1.
I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO FOR SAFETY AND TRAFFIC CALMING IS BENEFICIAL TO OUR VIBRANT CITY.
ROUNDABOUTS, I CALL THEM ROUNDABOUTS.
YOU CALL THEM TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
SAVE LIVES. EVERY CAR IS GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
NO OPPORTUNITY FOR A T-BONE, NO OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO CRASH INTO SOMEBODY ELSE, OR IF THEY DO, IT'S MERELY A FIVE OR 10-MILE-AN-HOUR FENDER BENDER.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CALM THE TRAFFIC AND SAVE LIVES.
WHEN WE REDUCE SPEEDS, ANYONE WHO IS INATTENTIVE HAS A LITTLE BIT BETTER CHANCE TO BE ATTENTIVE, AND IF THEY ARE DISTRACTED, APPROACHING A ROUNDABOUT, THEY'RE GOING TO STOP AND THINK, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
ROUNDABOUTS ARE EFFICIENT BECAUSE THEY DO CYCLE MORE VEHICLES THROUGH PER HOUR, WHICH HAS THE BENEFIT OF REDUCING CARBON EMISSIONS, BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE CAN KEEP EVERYONE MOVING.
WE KNOW THAT CHANGE IS HARD, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE RESISTANT TO CHANGE.
BUT GIVEN TIME, I BELIEVE TRAFFIC DRIVERS WILL ADAPT AND THEY WILL SEE THE BENEFIT IN TIME.
I AGREE THAT NOWADAYS, WITH ALL THE E-BIKES AND KIDS WHO HAVEN'T EVEN TAKEN THEIR DRIVER'S TEST YET ARE DRIVING E-BIKES, WE NEED TO BE PUTTING MORE EMPHASIS ON BICYCLE SAFETY.
THE CROSS STREETS FOR THE LONG THOROUGHFARES HAVE THEIR STOP SIGNS, AND CURRENTLY, IT IS SCARY DRIVING ACROSS ONE OF THE THROUGH ROADS FROM THOSE STOP SIGNS BECAUSE EVERYONE'S GOING TOO FAST, AND THERE'S NOTHING TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN.
I DO BELIEVE THAT ROUNDABOUTS SAVE LIVES, AND I AM GOING TO TELL YOU A QUICK LITTLE STORY.
THE CITY OF VISTA RECENTLY HAD INSTALLED BIKE LANES WITH BARDS AND CURBS THAT THAT WAS PAINTED, IT WAS FABULOUS.
AND I JUST WENT, WOOHOO, THIS IS GREAT FOR BICYCLISTS.
SOMEBODY COMPLAINED AND SAID, BUT IF I HIT ONE OF THOSE CURBS, I'LL DAMAGE MY CAR.
THERE WAS A BICYCLIST WHO RESPONDED AT THE MEETING AND SAID, "THAT'S THE POINT." IF YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU'LL DAMAGE ME INSTEAD.
I DO ENCOURAGE OUR COUNSEL TO PLEASE ACCEPT OPTION 1.
>> RAEL VIMAR, FOLLOWED BY SUSAN SMITH.
I LIVE AT 937 OAK AVENUE IN CARL'S BED RIGHT BEHIND THE SMART & FINAL.
THAT STREET RIGHT THERE, THAT'S ONE OF THE DANGEROUS STREETS.
EVERYBODY DRIVES AS FAST AS THEY CAN.
I WENT TO THE PARK THE OTHER DAY WITH MY WIFE AND MY 2-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON, AND WE HAD TO WAIT 10 CARS TO CROSS THE STREET.
NOBODY STOP. WE'RE SITTING THERE.
MY WIFE SHE HAS BONE ON BONE HIP.
SHE'S GOING TO BE REPLACEMENT IN HER HIP IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
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NOBODY STOPS.I TAKE THE BACK WAY TO OCEANSIDE NOW.UP DOWN STREET, THEY HAVE HUMPS BACK THERE, THE SPEED HUMPS, THAT SLOW THE CARS DOWN.
AT THE ROUNDABOUT, THEY HAVE A ROUNDABOUT WITH FORCED WAY STOP.
THE OTHER ONES IN CARLSBAD, EVERYWHERE THAT I GO, NOBODY STOPS.
THE ONE GOING INTO OCEANSIDE, FORGET ABOUT IT.
YOU GOT TO TAKE THE CHANCES ON THAT ONE.
ON THE NEWS, THEY SHOWED IT TONIGHT THAT IT WENT UP 200% ON ACCIDENTS 1-200 IN THE YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RIGHT, BUT STUFF LIKE THAT ON IT.
BUT YOU KEEP ON SAYING WHY IN MY BACKYARD.
IT GOES, IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH, NO MORE IN MY BACKYARD.
EVERYTHING HAPPENS, IT HAPPENS IN THE BARRIO.
YOU FOLKS KEEP ON COMING THERE, YOU PUT WINDSOR POINT.
WE VOTED AGAINST IT, THE COMMUNITY.
MY IN LAWS HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1900S.
ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT I KNOW HAVE BEEN THERE, THE FOUNDERS THEY'RE THERE.
IF YOU LOOK UP ON YOUTUBE AND YOU LOOK UP THE HISTORY OF CARLSBAD, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT IN THAT VIDEO WE KNOW, WE GREW UP WITH, WE PLAYED BALL AT PINE SCHOOL, WE PLAYED BALL EVERYWHERE.
AS AN ADULT, I PLAYED AT PINE SCHOOL.
BUT YOU FOLKS DON'T LISTEN TO ME.
I COME IN HERE, AND I STOPPED COMING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE VOTED FOR.
I GO DOWN TO ONE OF MY FRIENDS HOUSE ON CHESTNUT IN MADISON, AND YOU CAN'T FIND PARKING OVER THERE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S PARKED THERE.
WITH THIS OTHER THING THAT YOU'RE HAVING DOWNTOWN, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE PARKING ON OAK STREET, LIKE THEY DO NOW. I CALL IN.
THEY GIVE ME 72 HOURS TO GIVE THEM A TICKET.
IT'S 72 HOURS, AND THEN ANOTHER TWO DAYS BEFORE THEY EVER SHOW UP.
THAT'S FIVE DAYS FOR ALL THESE CARS THAT ARE PARKED THERE.
THE SMART & FINAL PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE FOLKS IN THERE, I HEARD THAT YOU HAVE THE OPENING ON OAK AVENUE.
IT'S NOT ON CARLSBAD VILLAGE DRIVE ANYMORE.
THAT MEANS THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE TRAFFIC.
I TAKE A SHORTCUT FROM HARDING DOWN TO TAMARACK AND ALL THE WAY TO DINA BECAUSE MY BARBER SHOP THAT'S BEEN THERE OUR FAMILY HAS BEEN THERE.
>> SUSAN SMITH, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTINE DAVIS.
>> SUSAN SMITH. I LIVE ON ROOSEVELT STREET, AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 62 YEARS.
I HAVE BEEN HERE IN CARLSBAD AND I'VE SEEN SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT GOING ON, AND WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM ON ROOSEVELT STREET, MADISON STREET, AND HARDING STREET.
THE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR US THAT WE LIVE THERE IN THE CITY.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A HORRIBLE PROBLEM AS A CHILD WALKING TO SCHOOL TO PINE SCHOOL, TO JEFFERSON, AND NOW I SEE IT EVERY DAY.
IT'S REALLY SAD TO SEE THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST IN A HURRY TO GET NOWHERE.
THEY'RE GETTING NOWHERE, AND THEY'RE JUST IN A HURRY AND THEY JUST WANT TO RUN STOP SIGNS.
MY WHOLE THOUGHT WAS, GO AHEAD AND GIVE US A ROUNDABOUT.
ROUNDABOUTS WILL SLOW PEOPLE DOWN, BUT YOU'RE NOT GIVING US ENOUGH ROUNDABOUTS.
ONE ON ROOSEVELT STREET, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
WE NEED AT LEAST TWO OR THREE TO SLOW THE PEOPLE DOWN, SLOW THEM DOWN.
IT'S HARD TO COME OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, NOT KNOWING IS SOMEBODY GOING TO HIT ME THIS TIME? IT'S REALLY SCARY.
I LIVE CLOSE TO THE TEROLES RESTAURANT RIGHT THERE, AND THE KIDS ARE ALWAYS PARKING IN OUR AREAS.
THEY'RE ALWAYS PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAYS.
THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA, BECAUSE ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS GET THEIR FOOD AND TAKE OFF AND LEAVE.
NOW WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ALL THE E-BIKES RIDING THROUGH THERE.
I'M ALL FOR ANY PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE US ROUNDABOUTS.
I REALLY DON'T WANT TO STOP SIGN, BUT MAYBE TO GIVE US THE BUMPS, GIVE US THE BUMPS TO SLOW THE PEOPLE DOWN, BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN THAT AREA TO JUST SLOW PEOPLE DOWN AND HAVE THEM RESPECT US.
BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF SEEING THESE SIGNS THAT SAY SLOW DOWN CARLSBAD.
THEY CAN'T SEE THE SIGNS THAT WE HAVE OUT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FRONT YARDS THAT ARE THERE, AND NOBODY CAN SEE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PARKING IN OUR STREETS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS AND I HOPE YOU DO THE RIGHT THING FOR US.
>> CHRISTINE DAVIS, FOLLOWED BY PETE PENSEYRES.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'VE REWRITTEN MY NOTES SO MANY TIMES, BEAR WITH ME. THOUGHT I HAD THIS DOWN.
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I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE ASSOCIATION, CARLSBAD MAIN STREET ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS SUPPORT THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF DOWNTOWN CARLSBAD.I THINK WE ALL AGREE WE WANT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES.
I AM NOT IMMUNE TO TRAFFIC CALMING AS A HUGE ISSUE.
HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO UNDERSCORE THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING PARKING IN CARLSBAD VILLAGE.
WITH THE DAY LIGHTING LAW THAT'S PINCHING US FURTHER AND FURTHER IN THE VILLAGE THAN EVER BEFORE, REDUCING THE GAINS THAT WE REALIZED RECENTLY WHEN THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT REPURPOSED SOME OUTDATED RED CURBS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.
ALONG WITH THE NEW STATE LAWS FOR THOSE OF US NEAR TRANSIT THAT ARE NOT PRIORITIZING PARKING.
WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PRESERVE THE PARKING THAT WE DO HAVE FOR OUR BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN.
IT'S OUR OPINION AFTER TALKING WITH MANY BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS THAT STOP SIGNS WITH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVATED CROSSWALKS, MAYBE SPEED HUMPS, A COMBINATION WILL HELP IMPROVE SAFETY.
IT'LL DO IT QUICKLY, COST EFFECTIVELY, AND WITH HOPEFULLY LESS ONGOING MAINTENANCE THAN TRAFFIC CIRCLES WOULD.
IT WOULD ALSO NOT HAVE THE SAME NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PARKING IN THE VILLAGE IN BARRIO AND THAT WOULD HELP OUR ECONOMIC VITALITY DOWNTOWN. THANK YOU.
>> PETE PENSEYRES IS FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL HEDRICK.
>> PETE PENSEYRES, 2377 OCEAN STREET, SO I'M IN THE VILLAGE, NOT THE BARRIO, BUT I SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER THERE, PINE PARK, PLAYED BASEBALL THERE, SENIOR SOFTBALL.
ANY CASE, I'M SPEAKING AS I'M VICE CHAIR OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY COMMISSION, BUT I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT AS A 10-YEAR RESIDENT OF THE VILLAGE.
A FREQUENT PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE RIDER IN THE BARRIO, I FAVOR OPTION 1.
I COULD ALSO FAVOR OPTION 2, BUT ONLY IF IT INCLUDED THE OPTION 1 TRAFFIC CIRCLES ON CHESTNUT.
THE REASON FOR CHESTNUT IS BECAUSE THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO GET PEOPLE FROM THE EAST SIDE TO THE WEST SIDE OF BY FIVE.
IT HAS NO ON AND OFF RAMPS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE UP THERE, INCLUDING A LOT OF MY FRIENDS.
WHEN I ASKED THEM WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THIS.
THEY SAID, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A BETTER WAY TO GET DOWN TO CHESTNUT AND TO THE COASTAL RAIL TRAIL WHERE CHESTNUT CURRENTLY DEAD ENDS.
THE PROBLEM THEY HAVE IS THE STOP SIGNS AT MADISON AND ROOSEVELT.
WITH CARS PARKED THERE, IT'S HARD TO SEE WHEN YOU CAN GET ACROSS THE STREET WITH SPEEDING CARS, AND YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE YOURSELF OUT PART WAY INTO THE INTERSECTION BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO CHANCE IT OR NOT.
THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES THERE WOULD BE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE RIDING THERE, ESPECIALLY THE KIDS.
THEY DON'T STOP FOR STOP SIGNS.
WITH THE E-BIKES THEY HAVE, NOBODY WANTS TO HIT ANYBODY.
THERE ISN'T A MOTORIST OUT THERE THAT WOULD CHEER IF THEY HIT A KID OR EVEN AN ADULT, BUT MOSTLY A CHILD.
WE'VE GOT TO PROTECT THEM BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP FOR A STOP SIGN.
FOR OUR NEIGHBORS UP IN THE BARRIO AND EAST OF I5, A CALM CHESTNUT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO BOTH THE BARRIO, THE VILLAGE, AND THE BEACH.
THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO NO NET LOSS OF PARKING IS ALSO BEING HONORED AND ADDITIONAL SPACES I IDENTIFIED BY ANGLE PARKING WHICH NARROW THE STREETS AND WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CALMING.
IN SUMMARY, THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THIS.
WE HAVE SOME MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THIS. THANK YOU.
>> MICHAEL HEDRICK, FOLLOWED BY NICK ALVARADO.
>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MICHAEL HEDRICK, AND I'M A NEIGHBOR OF JULIA JUROR WHO SPOKE EARLIER.
I'VE BEEN LIVING ON MADISON SINCE 2001 WHERE ME AND MY FAMILY PURCHASED A HOME AND WHERE I HAVE RAISED TWO OF MY KIDS.
I WANT TO SAY WITHOUT A DOUBT, I'M 100% IN FAVOR OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN THE BARRIO, OPTION 1.
IT'S THE BEST OPTION FOR THE BARRIO.
IT'S THE SAFEST OPTION FOR THE BARRIO,
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AND IT'S THE OPTION THAT PRESERVES TRAFFIC FLOW.ANYONE THAT DRIVES DOWN MADISON, IF YOU WERE FORCED TO STOP AT CHESTNUT, NINE TIMES OUT OF 10, THERE'S GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY NO CROSS TRAFFIC.
WE'RE MAKING PEOPLE STOP IF WE WERE TO PUT IN STOP SIGNS, NINE TIMES OUT OF 10 FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
WHEREAS A ROUNDABOUT WILL PHYSICALLY FORCE DRIVERS TO SLOW DOWN TO A REASONABLE SAFE SPEED SUCH THAT THEY CAN SEE TRAFFIC IN ALL DIRECTIONS.
MOST OF THE TIME THERE WILL BE NO CROSS TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION AS WELL AS THE INTERSECTION ON ROOSEVELT AND CHESTNUT.
IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO PUT IN AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SAFEST OPTION AND THE MOST EFFICIENT OPTION.
NOW, I MENTIONED I RAISED MY TWO KIDS HERE.
MANY OF YOU REPRESENT DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT MY OWN.
IN THOSE DISTRICTS, YOU HAVE INCORPORATED ROUNDABOUTS, WHETHER IT'S BRASI RANCH, ROBERTSON RANCH, ALL IN THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
ALL WE'RE ASKING, AT LEAST SOME OF US, IS TO GIVE THE BARRIO THE SAME UP-TO-DATE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING SOME OF THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES, MOST OF THEM WEALTHIER COMMUNITIES THAN WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AT THE BARRIO.
OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE TREATED FAIRLY, AND TO VISIT MY FRIENDS IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN AND TO SEE THEM HAVE THESE ROUNDABOUTS, THAT I'VE NEVER HEARD COMPLAINTS.
I HAVE FRIENDS ALL OVER ALL OVER IN THOSE PLACES THAT I JUST SPOKE OF.
THEY THINK THAT THEY'RE ASSETS TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
THEY LIKE THE FACT THAT IT BREAKS UP THE STREET AND INSTEAD OF JUST A LONG STREET, YOU CAN SIT AT ONE END OF ROOSEVELT OR MADISON AND LOOK STRAIGHT DOWN ALL THE WAY INTO THE VILLAGE.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT BREAKS IT UP, AND THESE ARE WIDE STREETS, SO PEOPLE ARE DRIVING, AS MENTIONED, NOT 26 MILES AN HOUR, 27 MILES AN HOUR.
THEY'RE ROUTINELY GOING THROUGH IT 50 MILES PER HOUR PLUS BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THEY CAN.
AGAIN, A STOP SIGN IS OPTIONAL.
WHETHER SOMEONE STOPS OR NOT IS OPTIONAL.
ALL OF US HAVE SEEN PEOPLE BLOW THROUGH STOP SIGNS.
PEOPLE CANNOT PHYSICALLY BLOW THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT.
WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR FAIRNESS AND WE'RE ASKING FOR SAFETY AND WE'RE ASKING FOR IT NOW. THANK YOU.
>> NICK ALVARADO, FOLLOWED BY CHRIS WRIGHT.
MY NAME IS NICK ALVARADO, AND MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 1937, AND I LIVE IN TYLER STREET IN THE BARRIO AREA, AND I FEEL THAT IT WOULD WORK OUT VERY BENEFICIAL IF WE COULD HAVE STOP SIGNS WHERE THE ROUNDABOUTS WERE.
IF POSSIBLE TO GET THE GRANT, IF WE NEED TO DO ONE ROUNDABOUT, YOU COULD DO ONE.
BUT ALSO WE COULD MAYBE PUT SIMILAR PEDESTRIAN WALKING AREAS LIKE THEY DO HAVE.
RIGHT NOW, WE STILL HAVE IT ON ON ROOSEVELT, BUT AS ALSO LIKE HOW THEY HAVE IT ON PCH.
IT MAKES IT MORE OF AN ALERT THAT SOMEBODY'S COMING, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO WALK BY, SO YOU CAN STOP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I FEEL THAT EVEN JUST THE ONE THE STOP SIGN THAT WE DO HAVE ON OAK AND MADISON HAS MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA OF FEELING A LITTLE BIT MORE SAFE RATHER THAN HAVING TO STOP, PULL OUT, TO SEE IF ANYONE IS COMING, TO SEE IF ANY BIKES ARE COMING, PULL OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, THERE'S A CAR COMING, GOT TO WAIT, AND THEN GO.
IT JUST MAKES IT MORE PEACE OF MIND.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE SUCH A HUGE BUDGET AND IT CAN GET DONE SOONER THAN LATER OF SOMETHING HAPPENING FIVE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, AND COMING BACK AND REVISITING WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU.
>> CHRIS WRIGHT, FOLLOWED BY JOHN MATZ.
>> CITY COUNCIL. ON JULY 8 OF THIS MONTH, I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY TOWN HALL AT THE HARDING CENTER GIVEN FOR PUBLIC INPUT REGARDING THE PROPOSED FIVE TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN THE BARRIO.
AS A DISTRICT 1 RESIDENT AND AN ALMOST DAILY VISITOR TO THE VILLAGE IN BARRIO, I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAD TO SAY.
ABOUT 35-40 PEOPLE WERE THERE, INCLUDING MAYOR BLACKBURN AND DISTRICT 1 COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER, AND, OF COURSE, MYSELF.
ATTENDING WERE MANY BARRIO RESIDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES, SOME OF WHICH HAD STATED THAT THEIR FAMILIES HAD LIVED IN THE BARRIO FOR MANY GENERATIONS.
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I LISTENED CAREFULLY AS TO WHAT THEY SAID AND WHAT THEY WANTED FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.THEY WANTED LIGHTING, THEY WANTED REDUCED SPEEDING, AND THEY WANTED PARKING, AND THEY WANTED THE ARTWORK THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED AS PART OF THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
BUT WHAT I HEARD THERE WAS ABOUT 90% SAID THEY DID NOT WANT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
MANY RESIDENTS OF THE BARRIO SPOKE MORE THAN ONCE, BUT MOST ALL SPOKE.
I DID HEAR ONE OR TWO SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES WERE FINE, BUT MOST SAID THAT THEY DID NOT WANT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES AT THAT MEETING.
STOP SIGNS DO WORK, BUT SO DO RAISED PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS THAT CALM TRAFFIC AND PROVIDE SAFETY.
TRAFFIC CIRCLES HINDER RESPONSE TIME.
FOR EMERGENCIES AND MANY DRIVERS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.
THESE COMMUNITY STREETS ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
THERE IS DATA FROM THE LOCAL ROADWAY SAFETY PLAN APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN 2022, THAT THE STATE STREET AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD ROUNDABOUT HAD THE THIRD HIGHEST COLLISION FREQUENCY RATE AND THE HIGHEST COLLISION RATE IN THE ENTIRE CITY.
OF NOTE, THE SECOND AND THIRD HIGHEST COLLISION RATES SERVED FIVE TIMES MORE VEHICLES THAN THE ROUNDABOUT AT STATE AND CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, AND WERE REGULAR INTERSECTIONS.
I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT MANY BARRIO RESIDENTS ARE HERE TONIGHT.
I THINK YOU OUGHT TO LISTEN TO THE BARRIO RESIDENTS.
THEY WANT SAFE STREETS WITH LIGHTING AND THEY WANT THEIR ART. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> JOHN MATZ, FOLLOWED BY MARIO TERRERO.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY WIFE AND I, WE OWN NINE UNITS IN THE BARRIO WITH ABOUT 11,12 [LAUGHTER] RESIDENTS.
EIGHT OF MY RESIDENTS LIVE ON THE CORNER OF PINE AND MADISON.
IT'S ALREADY VERY DIFFICULT TO PARK THERE.
I CAME HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO BECAUSE MR. FRANK WANTS TO REMOVE MY DRIVEWAY AT 3208 MADISON.
IF THAT DOES GO THROUGH, THEN YOU CAN ADD ONE MORE PARKING SPOT THAT WILL NOT EXIST.
THE CURRENT SITUATION THE BARRIO, I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY HERE.
I THINK STOP SIGNS, I THINK CROSSWALKS, ANYTHING WOULD BE BETTER THAN PUTTING IN THE CIRCLES.
I WALK EVERY DAY THROUGH THE BARRIO, AND I WALK DOWN CHESTNUT ALMOST EVERY DAY.
THE CURRENT CIRCLE WE HAVE THERE DOESN'T DO MUCH.
WE'VE GOT ALL THESE E-BIKE MOBS, I CALL THEM, KIDS, 20 OF THEM COMING THROUGH THERE.
IT'S JUST NOT REALLY DOING WHAT A TRAFFIC CIRCLE SHOULD DO.
MY OPINION IS I WOULD LIKE NUMBER TWO.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE CITY LOSE THE MONEY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME STOP SIGN.
I'D LIKE THE PUSH BUTTON LIGHTS SO THAT YOU CAN WALK ACROSS SAFELY.
WE HAVE ONE ON CHESTNUT RIGHT NOW IN MADISON.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO DUPLICATE THOSE PROBABLY WALNUT AND PINE AS WELL.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING, AND THEY WOULD BE GREAT ADDITIONS FOR THE AREA AND IT WOULD DEFINITELY SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC. THANK YOU.
BY THE WAY, I'LL HAVE ONE OTHER THING.
IF YOU CHOOSE OPTION 1, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE COUNCIL WITH MR. FRANK, SO I DON'T LOSE MY DRIVEWAY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I AM FROM SAN DIEGO AND I AM ONE OF THE FOUNDERS AND ONE OF THE MAIN ARTISTS FROM CHICANO PARK.
I'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA OF SAN DIEGO ALL MY LIFE, AND I ALWAYS JUST PASSED THROUGH CARLSBAD WHEN WE GO TO OCEANSIDE TO SOME EVENTS, BUT NOW THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME TO HAVE SOME ART, AT FIRST, I CAME HERE JUST FOCUSED ON THE ART AND THE COMMUNITY.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE TO MEET THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND ALSO TO SEE THAT CARLSBAD,
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AS A CITY, IS PROUD OF THEIR VALUE, SOMETHING THAT I DID NOT FIND IN THE BEGINNING IN SAN DIEGO.WE WERE SEGREGATED AND WE WERE DOING OUR OWN THING, BUT HERE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A TREMENDOUS MIX CONSIDERING THAT, I HOPE IT'S NOT GENTRIFICATION, BUT THERE IS A CAMBODIANS AND A HISTORY GOING ON HERE THAT HAS OPENED ME TO SEE THE IMPORTANCE TO HAVE ART.
BECAUSE A WHILE AGO WITH THE OTHER PRESENTATION OF THIS WONDERFUL NEW ELEMENTS OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE GOING TO BE MORE PARKING, ALSO SHOULD BRING MORE ART.
BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE WALK THROUGH PLACES, IT SEEMS LIKE ART IS THE THING THAT TIES THEM TOGETHER, AND IN BARRIO, IT SEEMS TO BE THE PLACE TO PUT IT ANYWAY.
I COMMEND YOU FOR TRYING TO MAKE THE STREET SAFER FOR EVERYBODY THINKING ABOUT IT.
I THINK THAT EVERY COMMUNITY THINKS OF THAT, AND SOUTH PARK IN SAN DIEGO, FOR INSTANCE, THEY ARE PLACING THESE ROUNDABOUTS, AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING USED TO IT, AND ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE THE TRAFFIC IS NOT SLOWING DOWN, I THINK THEY'RE ALL FIGHTING WHO'S GOING TO GET IN THERE FIRST.
NEVERTHELESS, IT MAKES YOU ALERT AND YOU WATCH IT.
YOU JUST DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.
YOU JUST DON'T FALL ASLEEP ON THE STRAIGHT ROAD.
SPEED BUMPS, I ALWAYS LIKE THAT WE GOT AT CHICANO PARK.
THE PARK MAKES PEOPLE SLOW DOWN.
ART MAKES PEOPLE SOMEWHAT TAKE A WHOLE NEW ENVIRONMENTAL ATTITUDE TOWARDS IT.
I THINK ART MAY HELP EVEN TO CREATE SAFE STREETS BECAUSE SAFE IS NOT JUST THE CARS RUNNING OVER PEOPLE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT ALSO HAS TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WALKING WITH THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH PEOPLE FEEL THERE'S MORE ATTENTION TO THE ART, TO THE COLORS, TO THE DIVERSITY OF THE ELEMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALL THE THINGS THAT GOING TO HELP.
WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, YOU ARE KEEPING THE ART.
I SURE HOPE SO THIS MONUMENT TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, IT HAS TO BE PLACED.
EVEN IF IT WAS NOT LOCATED IN A CIRCLE, WE WOULD GO INTO THE NEXT STAGE IN WHICH WE SEE WHERE WOULD THAT BE [INAUDIBLE] WHEREVER.
WE'LL DISCUSS THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THAT WAS THE FINAL SPEAKER.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR YOUR PATIENCE OF WAITING AND BEING HEARD.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING IN REGARDS TO THE TOPIC, I REQUESTED A HYBRID OPTION AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU PROVIDED THIS ONE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE FEDERAL GRANT ADJUSTMENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE? I'M JUST GOING TO FOCUS MOSTLY ON OPTION 2 IN REGARDS TO WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IF WE ONLY GO TO ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. PAZ GOMEZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
WITH THE FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN TOTAL, WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT 2.5 MILLION GO TO THE BARRIO TRAFFIC CIRCLES PROJECT.
DEPENDING ON WHAT CITY COUNCIL DECIDES ON WHETHER IT'S ONE OR FIVE OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, THE TOTAL COST WILL DETERMINE WHAT THE REIMBURSEMENT RATIO WILL BE OF WHAT WE WILL GET OF THE GRANT UP TO $2.5 MILLION.
>> ARE ALLOWED TO READJUST WHAT WE DON'T USE FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES TO, LET'S SAY, THE LIGHTING PROJECT?
>> THAT IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS FOUR MILLION DOLLARS, SO WE HAVE REQUESTED 1.5 MILLION TO GO OVER TO THE BARRIO LIGHTING PROJECT. YES, SIR.
>> GREAT. THEN IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A ROUND ROBIN, SO I'M SORRY.
OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, IF WE GO WITH OPTION 2, I KNOW WE'LL HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY DO AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT ON, I BELIEVE IT'S HARDING AND PINE.
AS FOR THE OTHER ONES, WE WERE GOING TO DO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PREMATURELY JUST BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
SINCE WE DON'T NOW, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THOSE?
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
AMADA FLESSE, UTILITIES DIRECTOR AND GENERAL MANAGER OF CMWD.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
IF IT'S JUST STOP SIGNS, WE WOULD JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH CHANGING OUT THE VALVES.
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MAYBE BUMPS OR HUMPS OR ANY PAVING INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN WE WOULD WANT TO CHANGE OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S UNDERNEATH WHAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED NEW.WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IN THERE AND TAKE, REMOVE ANY OLD INFRASTRUCTURE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PLACING A NEW PAVEMENT, NEW INFRASTRUCTURE ON TOP.
WE WOULD JUST ADJUST OUR ADJUST OUR SCOPE ACCORDINGLY.
>> THEN IF WE WERE TO JUST DO, SAY, STOP SIGNS, THEN DO YOU KNOW THE TIME SCHEDULE OR THE NEXT TIME WE WOULD HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND ACTUALLY DO SOME INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE?
>> THANK YOU. THEN WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR FIRE? CHIEF, THANKS FOR COMING. IF AS A TRUCK CAPTAIN WITH THE LADDER TRUCK, I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TILLERMAN, THE GUY DRIVING IN THE BACK.
WHAT'S THE TILLERMAN'S PERSPECTIVE OF THE HARDING CIRCLE, DO WE KNOW?
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS NICK ORDILLE, I'M THE ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF. THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION.
THE TILLER SPOT'S PERSPECTIVE, WHEN WE WENT OUT AND WE LOOKED AT THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC CIRCLES, WE DID WORK WITH OUR TRAFFIC FOLKS TO PUT OUT SOME DIFFERENT LINES AND DIFFERENT PROPOSALS OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WE DID DRIVE THE TRUCK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE PROPOSED LOCATIONS, AND THEY'RE PRETTY TIGHT.
IF YOU RECALL THE JUNE MEETING, THE FIRE CHIEF DID MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT THE PREFERENCES OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ARE SO TIGHT.
THOSE PREFERENCES WOULD BE LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND LOOK AT STRATEGICALLY PLACING OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES WHICH COULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE RAISE CROSSWALKS, HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALKS, STOP SIGNS, OTHER TYPES OF TRAFFIC CALMING.
>> SPECIFICALLY WITH THE HARDING AND PINE, IT'S A WIDER STREET.
DID YOU NOTICE THAT IT'S NOT AS TIGHT, IT'S PRETTY ACCESSIBLE?
>> OF THE LOCATIONS THAT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES WERE PROPOSED, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE WIDER ONES AND WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO TRAVERSE EASIER THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS.
>> THANK YOU. THEN I'M DONE WITH FIRE.
JUST CONFIRMING, HARDING AND PINE IS THE ONE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR ART PROJECT.
>> THEN PROBABLY THE LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, TOM, IS COST COMPARISONS, I KNOW IF WE DO NOTHING, THAT'S THE CHEAPEST.
BUT THEN JUST CONFIRMING THAT THE RANKING FROM LEAST EXPENSIVE TO MOST IS STOP SIGNS WITH, SAY, PUSH BUTTON ILLUMINATION, SPEED CUSHIONS, AND THEN YOUR TRAFFIC CIRCLE ROUNDABOUTS.
THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING TO DO RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THE ROUNDABOUTS AND TRAFFIC CIRCLES, BUT THEN ADDING CUSHIONS WOULD BE LESS STOP SIGNS WOULD BE PROBABLY THE CHEAPEST THING THAT WE DO NEXT TO NOTHING.
>> OPTION 1 IS THE MOST COSTLY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
OF COURSE, WE MENTIONED THE GRAD.
>> I'M SORRY. I MIGHT BE CONFUSING ON THE QUESTION.
JUST IN GENERAL, IF WE WERE TO JUST LOOK AT ONE INTERSECTION AND WE WERE TO DO A TRAFFIC CIRCLE AS OPPOSED TO SPEED CUSHIONS OR AS OPPOSED TO STOP SIGNS, OUR LEAST EXPENSIVE THING OUTSIDE OF NOTHING IS STOP SIGNS?
>> THEN OUR MOST EXPENSIVE IS THESE TRAFFIC CIRCLES?
>> ONES BEING DISCUSSED TODAY.
>> THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> MRS. BURKHOLDER, QUESTIONS.
>> YES. THANK YOU. I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
I GUESS ALONG THE LINES OF THE COST OF THINGS, AND BY THE WAY, MARIO, YOUR WAY TO END THE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WERE VERY INVIGORATING, AND IT WAS GET A LITTLE BORING THERE FOR A SECOND.
[LAUGHTER] WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE SAVINGS IF THERE ARE NO CIRCLES? I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH CHEAPER ARE STOP SIGNS IN RAISED CROSSWALKS VERSUS TRAFFIC CIRCLES?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER FOR THE QUESTION.
STOP SIGNS ARE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE AS FAR AS WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, AND SO PER AN INTERSECTION THOSE CAN RANGE UNDER $2,000 PER INTERSECTION.
AS FAR AS WHAT OTHER OPTIONS, WE WOULD CONCEPTUALIZE.
WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK TO YOU WITH THE COST ESTIMATE.
WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR INTERNAL PARTNERS AND WHAT WE'D CONSIDER WOULD BE RAISED CROSSWALKS, POSSIBLY RAISED INTERSECTIONS, AND STOP SIGNS, OF COURSE, WERE ALREADY MENTIONED.
WE WOULD LOOK AT OTHER TYPES OF TRAFFIC CALMING AND IMPROVEMENTS FOR GETTING PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET.
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AS FAR AS COST ESTIMATES, I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT JUST IN RELATIVE TERMS, THE STOP SIGNS ARE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE.A RAISED CROSSWALK WOULD BE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A RAISED INTERSECTION.
BASICALLY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT RECONSTRUCTING IT RIGHT AWAY, IT REALLY IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IF YOU JUST THINK OF IT, THE LARGER THE FOOTPRINT OF THE RECONSTRUCTED AREA, THE HIGHER THE COST.
>> THANK YOU. HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS WOULD THE PINE AND HARDING CIRCLE TAKE AWAY?
>> ONE SECOND WHILE I PULL UP THE SLIDES HERE.
>> YOU DIDN'T ANTICIPATE MY QUESTION.
>> ON YOUR SCREEN HERE, YOU CAN SEE, ACTUALLY, CHESTNUT AND ROOSEVELT, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR IS PINE AND HARDING.
>> AT THIS LOCATION, YOU CAN SEE FOR THE TOTAL PARKING LOSS, IT WOULD BE SEVEN, BUT OUT OF THOSE, TWO OF THOSE SPOTS ARE AFFECTED BY THE DAYLIGHT LAW REDUCTION.
THEN HOW MANY DID YOU SAY YOU COULD GAIN WITH THE WORK YOU'VE ALREADY BEGUN WITH JUST EVALUATING THE PARKING THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING? THAT'S ON ANOTHER SLIDE.
>> IT WAS THE PHASED APPROACH.
FOR THE RED CAB POTENTIAL LOCATIONS, WE IDENTIFIED 14 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS.
>> IT WOULD BE NET SEVEN ESSENTIALLY IF BOTH OF THOSE THINGS HAPPENED.
THEN YOU HAD A SLIDE ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT REPLIED TO YOUR ONLINE SURVEY.
I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 49-51.
WHAT WAS THE RAW NUMBER FOR THAT?
>> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, ACTUALLY, THE RAW RUMBER.
>> WELL, THE TOTAL RESPONSE WAS 315 RESPONSE, BUT AS FAR AS THE TOTAL BREAKDOWN OF WHO WAS IN FAVOR OF CIRCLES AND WHO WAS OPPOSED.
>> WELL, YOU CAN SURMISE IF YOU COULD JUST DIVIDE BY TWO, I GUESS.
>> FOR CLARIFICATION, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN BRESSI RANCH, FOR EXAMPLE.
OBVIOUSLY, BRESSI RANCH WAS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS A 70-YEAR-OLD NEIGHBORHOOD THAT PLOP IN TRAFFIC CIRCLES AND MIGHT NOT BE THE SAME OUTCOME, BUT MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WE DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SOME ALTERNATIVE, IF FOR EXAMPLE, WE GO WITH OPTION 2, WHICH AS MY COLLEAGUE IS SAYING HE'S LEANING INTO, THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE IN THE SAME EXACT LOCATIONS AS THE CURRENT RENDERINGS OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
IS THAT CORRECT? THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROCEDURES.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. WE WOULD TAKE A HOLISTIC VIEW OF THE AREA AND COME BACK WITH OPTIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC CALMING.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TO.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ONCE AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS INDEPENDENT OF THE BARRIO LIGHTING PROJECT THAT WE APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING.
>> NO RISK OF LOSING ANY FUNDING THERE.
THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT COULD BE LOST TO TRAFFIC CIRCLE SEEMS TO BE A MOVING TARGET WITH DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
THE LATEST CONFUSION IS ON HOW MUCH SPACE IS NEEDED IN FEET FOR A SINGLE PARKING SPOT.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT CONFUSION OR DISCREPANCY BETWEEN 20 AND 22 FEET IN THE PARKING STUDIES?
>> ACTUALLY, LET ME FIND MY SLIDES FOR THE CALIFORNIA MTCD.
AS I MENTIONED, WE USE THE CALIFORNIA MANUAL OF UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES AS OUR GUIDELINE FOR OUR PARKING ANALYSIS FOR DETAILED PROJECT ANALYSIS SUCH AS THIS.
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IT RECOMMENDS 24 FOOT PARKING SPOTS WHEN THEY'RE MARKED IF IT'S UP AGAINST A RED CURB AREA, AND THEN IT WOULD BE 20.FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 2025 VILLAGE AND BARRIO PARKING STUDY.
WE WERE USING OR ASSUMING 20 FOOT PARKING SPACES FOR THAT ANALYSIS.
BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE OF A DETAILED ANALYSIS, WE DO USE THE 22-24 FOOT LENGTH, AND THEN ALSO IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, IT DOES REFERENCE MINIMUM LENGTHS OF 24 FEET.
WE DO THAT BECAUSE IF YOU THINK OF THE LENGTHS, ALSO THERE'S CARS OUT THERE THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER THAN 20 FEET LIKE EXTENDED CREW CAB TRUCKS AND LONG BED TRUCKS THAT ARE OVER 20 FEET, PLUS.
IF A CAR IS APPROACHING A LONGER LENGTH CLOSER TO 20 FEET, YOU ALSO NEED SEVERAL FEET TO NAVIGATE IN AND OUT OF A PARKING SPACE, SO THAT'S WHY WE USE THE 22 FEET WHEN WE'RE DOING A DETAILED ANALYSIS ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
WE DID GET COMMENTS FROM A RESIDENT REGARDING OUR BASIS OF OUR BASIS OF THE PARKING ANALYSIS, AND THAT'S WHERE IT STEMMED FROM.
WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DETAILED ANALYSIS VERSUS THE PLANNING LEVEL.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE ALSO A BRAZILIAN GOLF CARTS IN THE VILLAGE THAT ARE TINY COMPARED TO A LONG BED TRUCK.
I'M NOT TRYING TO GO AROUND AND FIGURE OUT WHAT EVERYBODY'S DRIVING, THAT SEEMS A VERY INTENSE, BUT I THINK THE MORE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THERE IS A STANDARD AND THAT IT DOESN'T CHANGE BASED ON WHERE THE PROJECT IS OR THE LOCATION.
THOSE ARE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, AND I DO HAVE COMMENTS AND EMOTION.
>> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANKS TO THE SPEAKERS AND THOSE WHO EMAILED IN THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I HEARD IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I AM HEARING OVERALL JUST THE LONG TIME ISSUE OF SPEEDING IN THIS AREA AND THE LONG TIME FRAME THAT IT'S TAKEN FOR US TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, WHICH IS WHETHER TO APPROVE FIVE TRAFFIC CIRCLES, AND IT'S ON THE TABLE.
I WAS LOOKING AT SLIDE 16 WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT READJUSTING AND RE ALLOCATING THE FEDERAL FUNDINGS.
WE WENT OUT AND SOUGHT FEDERAL FUNDING.
WE WORKED WITH OUR MEMBER OF CONGRESS.
I GUESS THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT SLIDE NUMBER.
I WROTE DOWN 16, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT WAS RIGHT AS 12. THANK YOU.
WE ASKED OUR REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS TO FIND THIS MONEY FOR US AND HE DID FIND THE MONEY, SO WITH THIS 2.5 MILLION DOLLAR, IF WE WERE JUST TO DO ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND STILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT LEAST ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
WHAT IS OUR DEADLINE? I READ IN THE STAFF REPORT SOMETHING LIKE SEPTEMBER 30.
WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT OBLIGATED AND BE MOVING FORWARD BY SEPTEMBER 30.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE TIMELINE FOR THAT?
>> RIGHT. THAT'S JUST FOR THE OBLIGATION, BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER THREE YEARS TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND SUBMIT ALL THE APPROPRIATE REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS.
>> GREAT. IF WE WERE TO MAKE THAT DECISION NOW AND VOTE ON IT, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO KEEP THE FUNDING?
>> IF WE FALL AT LEAST ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE?
>> I SHOULD SAY, AS MS. GOMEZ MENTIONED, WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATION OF 2.5 MILLION, BUT WE WOULD LIKELY GET LESS THAN THAT WITH BUILDING ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE BECAUSE ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE WOULD NOT LIKELY USE THE 2.5 MILLION DOLLAR.
>> IF IT COSTS MORE THAN 2.5 MILLION, WE THINK WE COULD GET ALL OF THAT? WHAT IS CALTRANS SAID? WHAT HAVE OUR PARTNERS SAID ABOUT HOW MUCH WE COULD GET OUT OF THAT?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
THE RATIO THAT IS USED BY CALTRANS AND FHWA IS 88.53%, AND SO BACKING THAT UP TO MAXIMIZE THE 2.5 MILLION, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A TOTAL COST OF OVER 2.8, $2,000,000 FOR A PROJECT, AND IF IT'S ONLY ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND COSTS OVER THAT AMOUNT, WE'VE GOT THE FULL 2.5 MILLION.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.
OF COURSE, WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THE LOSS OF PARKING SPOTS.
WE KNOW, NOT JUST FROM THE COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, BUT EVEN FROM OTHER AGENDA ITEMS EARLIER TONIGHT THAT THIS IS A BIG CONCERN IN THIS AREA IN THE VILLAGE AND THE BARRIO.
THERE WAS A SLIDE SLIDE 6 WHERE WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT LOOKING AT
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OTHER PARKING SPOTS WHERE WE WENT OVER THAT MINUTE MOTION EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE CONVERTING PARALLEL SPOTS TO DIAGONAL PARKING.WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE DAYLIGHTING LAW AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY SOME SPOTS IN THE ADDITIONAL MINUS FIVE SPOTS THAT WOULD BE REMOVED IF WE DID AT LEAST ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT PINE AND HARDING.
I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER ONE MORE TIME.
THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL PARKING OR THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS, THE 14 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS THAT WE THINK THAT WE COULD FIND.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS IF WE TAKE AWAY THE FIVE AT PINE AND HARDING?
>> RIGHT. IT'S A THREE PHASED APPROACH.
AGAIN, THE FIRST ITEM NUMBER ONE WAS IN RELATION TO THE MINUTE MOTION, WHICH WAS APPROVED BACK ON MARCH 4, AND SO WE ARE PROCEEDING WITH THE DESIGN OF THE MADISON STREET AND CHESTNUT AVENUE PARKING OPPORTUNITIES.
AS YOU ALREADY SEE ON THE SLIDE, THAT'S WHAT'S POTENTIALLY IDENTIFIED FOR THOSE PARKING SPACES.
IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER 2, WE'RE EVALUATING THE EXISTING RED CURB FOR SEEING IF WE COULD CONVERT THAT.
AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE WHERE THERE WAS A PREVIOUS DRIVEWAY CUT, AND IT'S TYPICALLY YOU CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF DRIVEWAY CUTS, BUT WE COULD RECONSTRUCT THAT TO A FULL PHASE CURB AND THAT WOULD THEN BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AN ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.
WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR INTERNAL PARTNERS TO VET THE AVAILABLE CONVERSIONS, AND SO FAR, WE FOUND 14 THAT LOOK VERY PROMISING.
>> LAST QUESTION, SINCE I'M REALLY LEANING TOWARDS HAVING AT LEAST ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE ON THE WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATES.
CLEARLY, WE WERE PLANNING TO DO THOSE AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION.
IF WE WERE JUST TO DO THE ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT PINE AND HARDING, I KNOW THAT WE PREVIOUSLY ASKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, I KNOW WE'LL HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE.
BUT WHAT MORE CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT US BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH UPDATES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THIS AREA? WILL WE GET EVERYTHING NEEDED DONE IN TIME IF WE JUST DO THE ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IN REGARDS FOR WATER AND SEWER.
YES. WE WOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH TRANSPORTATION AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER IMPLEMENTATION WE WANT TRAFFIC CIRCLE SPEED HUMPS.
WE WOULD GO FIRST AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS REPLACED PRIOR TO ANY IMPROVEMENTS ON TOP.
>> GREAT. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS STILL A HIGH PRIORITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
>> YES. THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TO THE STAFF THAT'S WORKED ON THIS.
FOR THE AMAZING OUTREACH AS WELL.
I KNOW IT WAS A TRUNCATED TIMELINE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THAT SO WE COULD GET SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, AND OF COURSE, TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM, IT REALLY HELPS US MAKE A BETTER AND WELL INFORMED DECISION.
I THINK I DEFINITELY HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
BUT I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH FIRST, THE OUTREACH AND THE FEEDBACK, AND THEN I'LL GO INTO SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS.
WITH REGARDS TO THE HISTORY OF THE OUTREACH AND JUST IN GENERAL, WITH THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT, IT GOES BACK ABOUT 10 YEARS, POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
>> THEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY DONE MORE OUTREACH ON THIS AND THEN OF COURSE, IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, DONE MORE OUTREACH IN ORDER TO GET TO THIS POINT THAT WE ARE NOW HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
>> IN TERMS OF THE FEEDBACK, I KNOW WE SAW, I THINK IT WAS JUST FOR THE RECORD AND TO CLARIFY, IT WAS 51% IN FAVOR OF THE ROUNDABOUTS WITH 41%.
OBVIOUSLY, WE GOT EMAIL FEEDBACK, OTHER FEEDBACK, BUT FROM THE SURVEY THAT WE PUT OUT, 51% WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
>> IT SEEMED LIKE I AM GUESSING WE DIDN'T DO A TABULATION OF THE E MAIL FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED.
I TRIED, BUT THERE WERE SO MANY, AND SO JUST IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS AN EVEN SPLIT BETWEEN SUPPORT AND NO SUPPORT I MEAN, THIS IS NOT AN EVEN SPLIT BUT SIMILAR BREAKDOWN IN THAT SENSE.
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I WANTED TO ASK OUR ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEF.I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AROUND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AROUND STOP SIGNS.
I'LL PREFACE WITH, I WALK A LOT, I RUN A LOT, I BIKE A LOT.
I HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON THE WAY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND I AM FREQUENTLY IN THIS AREA.
YES, I'M NOT A RESIDENT OF THIS DISTRICT, BUT I HAVE GROWN UP IN THIS DISTRICT AS WELL.
I HAVE SEEN WHAT MANY OF YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE CRAZY SPEEDING THAT FOLKS DO.
I WANTED TO ASK HOW EFFECTIVE STOP SIGNS ARE BECAUSE I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS FOLKS HAVE SAID WITH REGARDS TO IT NOT BEING THAT EFFECTIVE, BUT I WANTED TO ASK FROM YOUR PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL OBVIOUSLY EXPERIENCE, IF YOU COULD SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR BHAT PATEL, AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THIS.
STOP SIGNS DO PROVIDE A SMALL LEVEL OF DETERRENCE, BUT USUALLY THAT DETERRENCE IS ISOLATED TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BE VOLUNTARILY FOLLOWING TRAFFIC LAWS ANYWAY.
MANY MEMBERS OF THIS ROOM WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE LIKELY TO STOP AT THOSE STOP SIGNS.
MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SUCH AS DRIVING 40 OR 50 MILES AN HOUR THROUGH THE BARRIO.
IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, THEY'RE LIKELY WILLING TO VIOLATE OTHER RESTRICTIONS, SUCH AS STOP SIGNS.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING BETWEEN THINGS THAT REQUIRE ENFORCEMENT AND THINGS THAT DON'T.
PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTIONS ESSENTIALLY REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR.
SPEED CUSHIONS OR PHYSICAL TRAFFIC CIRCLES WILL REQUIRE YOU TO CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR OR THERE'S AN OBVIOUS AND IMMEDIATE CONSEQUENCE TO THAT BEHAVIOR.
FOR STOP SIGNS, FOR THE SAME VIOLATORS THAT ARE WILLING TO VIOLATE OTHER LAWS, THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE ENFORCEMENT ON THE PART OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THERE ARE LIMITATIONS OBVIOUSLY TO THAT ENFORCEMENT.
FOR A QUICK EXAMPLE, AS A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, IF I HAD OFFICERS THAT NEEDED PRACTICE WITH TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT WHEN THEY WERE NEWER AND LEARNING HOW TO BE COPS, WE WOULD FIND A STOP SIGN THAT WE COULD SIT AT BECAUSE THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WILLING TO ROLL THROUGH THOSE STOP SIGNS, AND MANY OF THEM WILL ACTUALLY BE RESIDENTS OF THAT SAME COMMUNITY WHO ARE REALLY AWARE THAT THEY'RE THERE.
THERE IS SOME EFFICACY TO THEM, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS A PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT REQUIRES COMPLIANCE.
>> THANK YOU. THAT ANSWERED MY OTHER PART OF MY QUESTION ANYWAYS WITH REGARDS TO THE PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION OF ROADS AND HOW THAT POTENTIALLY IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK NOW THE REST OF THEM ARE FOR MR. FRANKS. THANK YOU.
THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD WERE AROUND, WE HEARD ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS FOR TRAFFIC CALMING.
I TOO I AM LEANING TOWARDS THAT SECOND OPTION, THAT HYBRID OPTION, AND I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AND JUST ASK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WAS AROUND THE OTHER WHETHER IT'S SPEED TABLES, WHATEVER ELSE.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DETERMINED JUST YET.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH.
IF WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS HYBRID OPTION, WE'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH WHAT THOSE OTHER SPEED CALMING MEASURES WOULD LOOK LIKE AND AROUND THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE WOULDN'T BE MOVING FORWARD WITH TONIGHT.
>> WE WOULD BRING BACK CONCEPTUAL PLANS WITH HIGH LEVEL COST ESTIMATES.
>> I KNOW THIS MIGHT BE A TOUGH QUESTION.
BUT IN TERMS OF TIMING BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING CLEARLY AT LEAST A DECADE, IF NOT MORE FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN IN THIS AREA.
JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE TIMING WOULD LOOK LIKE.
I GUESS I SHOULD ASK YOU FOR ALL OF THE OPTIONS, OPTION 1, 2, AND 3.
WHAT THE TIMING WOULD LOOK LIKE AND ESPECIALLY I WOULD SAY THE ONE THAT I'M LEANING TOWARDS.
BUT JUST TO BE FAIR FOR ALL DIFFERENT OPTIONS BEING CONSIDERED AND FOR WHAT FOLKS HAVE ASKED FOR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO SHARE WHAT A TIMELINE WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GET STARTED ON SOME OF THESE CHANGES?
>> SURE. OPTION 1, I THINK WE ALREADY PROVIDED THAT TIMELINE FOR YOU.
FOR OPTIONS 2 AND 3, IT WOULD TAKE A WHILE TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS AND THE HIGH LEVEL COST ESTIMATES.
I WOULD SAY WE COULD PROVIDE THAT, COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION WITHIN A SIX MONTH PERIOD.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE WOULD HAVE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS AT THAT POINT, BUT WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR CONCEPTUAL DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND OUR EFFORTS TO GET AN ACCURATE TIME FRAME PULL TOGETHER TO DELIVER
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THE PROJECT FOR WHAT OPTIONS YOU'RE GOING TO BE CHOOSING.>> JUST TO CLARIFY IF I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU SAID THAT YOU COULD COME BACK IN A SET AMOUNT OF TIME AND LET US KNOW ABOUT WHAT THE TIMELINE WOULD LOOK LIKE?
>> GREAT. OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST HAVE COMMENTS. THANKS.
>> I JUST WANT TO SIMPLIFY IT A LITTLE BIT.
IF WE PUT IN ONE ROUNDABOUT, THEN WE CAN GET 2.5 MILLION TOWARD THAT ROUNDABOUT.
DID I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 15% OF THE COST?
>> MS. GOMEZ WILL SPEAK TO THE FUNDING ISSUES.
IT'S THE 88.53, SO APPROXIMATELY 89%, SO WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REMAINING 11%.
>> WHAT WHAT DO YOU PROJECT THAT ROUNDABOUT WOULD COST? WOULD IT EXCEED THE 2.5 MILLION?
>> WE HAVE NOT DONE THE DESIGN YET, AND IT DEPENDS ON IF THERE ARE OTHER FEATURES THAT WOULD ALSO BE INCORPORATED AND INCLUDED AS PART OF THE REDESIGN.
>> IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO DO ANY ROUNDABOUTS, THEN THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE GET 2.5 MILLION DOLLAR TOWARD LIGHTING?
>> I'M GUESSING YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED THIS, BUT IF WE DON'T DO ANY ROUNDABOUTS, CAN WE GET MORE MONEY FOR LIGHTING AND LESS MONEY FOR ROUNDABOUTS?
>> THE LIGHTING PROJECT IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
STAFF HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT IT AND WORKED WITH CALTRANS AND FHWA, THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, WITH REGARDS TO MAXIMIZING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, THE REIMBURSEMENT RATIO.
WE CHOSE AND RECOMMENDED 2.5 MILLION TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE CAN USE FOR THE LIGHTING.
IF THE BIDS COME IN SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TRY TO SQUEEZE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT REALLY IF THE BIDS COME IN AT THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, THEN WE WOULD STILL GET RIGHT AROUND THE $2.5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE.
>> THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS FOR THE CIRCLES, AND IT WAS TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
CAN WE USE ANY OF THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE MONEY FOR THE COST OF PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS OR SPEED CUSHIONS?
>> NO, SIR. I WAS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
SO IF WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, WHETHER IT'S THE PEDESTRIAN, THE RFPS, OR RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACONS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE.
BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
>> BUT WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT, IF WE DO ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, IF WE'LL HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT OVER AT THE END OF THAT, OR CAN YOU PREDICT SORT OF WHAT A TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT HARDING AND PINE WOULD COST?
>> WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE BID ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVE AND DID A CURSORY, IF WE WERE TO DIVIDE BY 5 AND APPROXIMATELY BECAUSE THE DESIGN DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT THIS TRAFFIC CIRCLE COST THIS MUCH, AND THAT WASN'T THAT HOW THE BIDDING WAS PREPARED.
BASED ON THAT, WE WERE ESTIMATING AT ABOUT 2.2 MILLION FOR A TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
>> THANK YOU. YOUR GUESS IS GOING TO BE, BOY, BETTER THAN MINE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
TOM, YOU GET BEAT UP A LOT, SO I JUST GOT A LOT OF LOFT FOR YOU FOR BEING IN THE POSITION YOU'RE IN.
I SPOKE TO ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 100 FOLKS THAT WERE USING THE AREA.
FROM VISITORS TO RESIDENTS TO THE FOLKS THAT RUN BUSINESSES THERE, BOYS AND GIRLS, AND CLUB, MONTESSORI.
IN CONSENSUS, IT FELT LIKE EVERYBODY WANTED SOMETHING TO BE DONE.
THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE SPEEDING THAT EXISTS, AND THEY WISH THEY HAD THE SOLVE OF IT YESTERDAY.
NOW, WHEN THE QUESTION OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES WERE PUT IN, IT WAS A MIXED BAG.
WHEN I SAW THAT THE RESULTS, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS EXACTLY HOW I SAW IT.
A LOT OF FOLKS SAID, I DON'T MIND THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES IF PEOPLE KNEW HOW TO DRIVE THROUGH THEM, AND THAT WAS WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE AN EDUCATION PROBLEM.
BUT THERE'S A DIFFICULTY IN EDUCATING THE PUBLIC IN MASS WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS.
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I'VE LEARNED THAT MY TIME IN THE FIRE SERVICE THAT I TRY TO FORCE PEOPLE TO TRY TO GET SMOKE DETECTORS OR WHATEVER.IT'S REALLY JUST AN EDUCATION WHYS AND THE WHYS.
WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC, IT BECOMES EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.
WE'RE MIXED IN BETWEEN TWO DILEMMAS, AND YOU CAN HEAR IT FROM THE AUDIENCE.
ONE, IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE TO USE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE HAVING A GROWING NUMBER OF E-BIKE RIDERS.
WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE THE COMPLEXITY BETWEEN HOW WE'RE SHARING ROADS RIGHT NOW.
I FEEL LIKE IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO ADD TWO COMPONENTS TO THE COMMUNITY ALL AT ONCE.
HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES? AM I SUPPOSED TO YIELD THEM? AM I SUPPOSED TO NOT? THAT'S WHAT I'VE NOTICED ABOUT THE PROBLEM ABOUT THE EDUCATION OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
THERE'S YOUR CLASSIC DUI GUYS THAT THEY'RE UNDER THE INFLUENCE AND THEY JUST DON'T EVEN SEE THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES, AND THEY GO FOR IT, RIGHT? NOT WORRIED ABOUT THOSE FOLKS.
WELL, I'M WORRIED, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CONCERN HERE.
MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE STILL NOT USED TO THE ADOPTION OF LOOKING LEFT AND REALLY TRYING TO YIELD AND FIGURING OUT OUR TIMING OF WHEN TO JUMP IN AND OUT OF THESE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
ONE. TWO, WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS WITH E-BIKE ISSUES, AND IT REALLY DOES FLUX IN THIS AREA BECAUSE IT'S SO FUN TO RIDE YOUR BIKE IN THE BARRIO AND IN THE VILLAGE, AND WE HAVE COMPONENTS WITH THAT.
WE HAVE EDUCATION ISSUES WITH MINORS RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A KEY COMPONENT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT OUR YOUTH JUST LEARNING HOW TO DRIVE E-BIKES, AND ALL OF THAT, I THINK WHAT WE'RE REALLY DEALING WITH IS MORE OF AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE THAN THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADD THESE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
THERE'S A REASON WHY THE POLICE CHIEF SAYS SHE NEEDS 19 ADDITIONAL OFFICERS, AND SOME OF IT IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ENFORCEMENTS IN THESE AREAS TO SAY, HEY, RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, SLOW DOWN AND STOP AT STOP SIGNS.
I SEE THE DILEMMA OF BEING A FIRST RESPONDER IN A FIRE TRUCK AND A LADDER TRUCK OR EVEN AN ENGINE HAVING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THESE SPACES.
I THINK THAT THERE IS ENOUGH CONCERN WHERE THERE SHOULD BE A PAUSE AND REALLY REFLECT ON HOW OUR RESPONSE IS GOING TO BE IF WE ADOPT THIS AND WE CONTINUE THIS MEASURE BECAUSE LET'S JUST SAY HYPOTHETICALLY THE ENTIRE VILLAGE WAS JUST SURROUNDED WITH TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
I WOULD HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO NAVIGATE THAT SPACE, AND THEN WOULD THAT YIELD A SLOWER RESPONSE TIME TO A DEGREE WHERE WE'RE NOT RESPONDING APPROPRIATELY? THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE.
I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN INCONSISTENCY AND IT CAUSES OUR INABILITY TO KNOW WHEN TO SLOW DOWN AND WHEN NOT TO.
WHEN YOU SEE A STRAIGHT TRACK AND YOU'RE JUST READY TO GO, IT'S JUST EASIER TO CONTINUE TO APPLY THE GAS.
IF THERE'S MORE STOP SIGNS, THAT COULD BE A CALMING MEASURE OF JUST BEING ABLE TO GO, OKAY, I KNOW IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAVE TO DO FREQUENT STOPS, AND THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE ME NOT TO CONSTANTLY JUST GO FOR IT AND HIT 40 OR 50 MILES AN HOUR.
THEN I'M PERSONALLY NOT FUN OF SPEED CUSHIONS.
I JUST, I'M NECK USED, SO I DON'T LIKE THE UPS AND DOWNS.
I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THESE AND YOU'RE NOT PREPARED FOR IT, YOU LOSE SIGHT OF OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING, AND YOU GET JARRED WITH THE SPEED CUSHIONS.
I AM IN FAVOR OF OPTION 2, IT WAS WHAT I REQUESTED.
I'M GLAD WE CAN GET DOWN TO JUST ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE IN THIS BEGINNING.
I THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO REDUCE A LOT OF OUR OWN PERSONAL INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BE FORCED TO DO INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE FISCALLY.
LIKE I SAID, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BROOK HOLDER, IF SHE BELIEVES IN THIS OPTION AS WELL TO MAKE THE MOTION, IT IS HER DISTRICT.
I THINK BY KEEPING THE ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT HARDING AND PINE ALLOWS US TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL ENTRANCE WAY WITH A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ARTWORK RIGHT THERE INTO THE BARRIO.
IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST MANAGEABLE TRAFFIC CIRCLE THAT A LADDER TRUCK CAN TAKE IN ITS APPROACH.
BUT WITH THAT, ALSO, IF WE ARE ABLE TO GO WITH OPTION 2, I WOULD PROBABLY ASK FOR AN EXPEDITED, I DON'T KNOW, 60, 90 DAYS TO BRING BACK AN ANALYSIS OF JUST STOP SIGNS IN GENERAL.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IT MAY NOT BE THE TOTAL SOLVE, BUT IT COULD BE THE QUICK SOLUTION THAT WE CAN HAVE CURRENTLY, THEN GET FEEDBACK FROM THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE VILLAGE AND ASK THEM, HEY, IS THIS ENOUGH? IF THEY'RE LIKE, THAT'S PLENTY? THEN WE'RE GOOD.
THEN WE SAVE OURSELVES QUITE A BIT OF COIN RIGHT THERE, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD SOLUTION.
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I'M JUST TRYING TO LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT CAN TAKE PLACE. FILL TO THE NEXT.>> THANK YOU. ARE YOU GOING LAST?
>> YOU'RE GOING LAST. WELL, IT WAS JUST OUT OF ORDER.
THANK YOU TO STAFF, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST MR. FRANK WHO'S HERE AT THE DESK, BUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH YOU AND HAVE WORKED WITH YOU ON THIS AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE SITTING BEHIND YOU.
I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST THE 17 PEOPLE THAT SPOKE TONIGHT, BUT ALL OF THE MANY EMAILS, CALLS, PEOPLE WE SPOKE WITH IN PERSON, AND WE'VE ALL DONE OUR OUTREACH AND SPOKEN TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I WANT TO SAY OPEN-MINDED, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME TRAFFIC CIRCLES THAT DEFINITELY WORK.
I SHOP SOMETIMES AT TRADER JOE'S IN BRAZIL, AND IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT.
IT WORKS REALLY WELL. THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT STATE ALSO WORKS REALLY WELL.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME STATISTICS THAT SAY THAT SOME TRAFFIC CIRCLES ARE MORE PROBLEMATIC THAN OTHERS.
I ALSO GO TO OTHER CITIES AND I DRIVE TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN OTHER CITIES, AND THEY WORK REALLY WELL.
I THINK IT'S NEW TO CARLSBAD, AND FOR SOME PEOPLE AS MUCH AS THEY WANT TO SLOW THE SPEED, IT'S HARD TO MAKE A CULTURAL CHANGE TO BECOME USED TO TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
IN THIS CASE, WITH THIS PLAN FOR FIVE IN THIS ONE AREA, I THINK WE MET SOME RESISTANCE.
IT WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC CIRCLES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS OF DISCUSSING THEM.
I AM, AS I SAID, OPEN-MINDED AND THINK THAT IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST IDEA TO GO WITH THE SLOWER TRANSITION AND PICK JUST THE ONE CRITICAL TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT PINE AND HARDING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
THAT'S THE ONE WITH THE PUBLIC ART.
I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ONE AND THEN HAVE OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AT THE OTHER AREAS, BUT I'M VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY.
THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND FOR COMMENTING.
AGAIN, MUCH GRATITUDE TO STAFF AND OF COURSE, ALL THE RESIDENTS FOR WRITING IN.
AS I MENTIONED, AS SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY LIVES IN ANOTHER PART OF CARLSBAD, BUT FREQUENTLY VISITS THIS AREA, WHETHER IT'S TO HAVE SOME FOOD WITH MY FAMILY, VISIT MY BEST FRIEND BECAUSE SHE LIVES DOWN THIS WAY, OR JUST BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, I REALLY APPRECIATE OBVIOUSLY OUR LOCAL CHARM THAT'S HERE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT FOLKS WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
I ALSO KNOW THAT WITH THAT CHARM COMES THE REAL CONCERN OF SAFETY AND WE'VE BEEN HEARING THAT FOR MANY YEARS.
OBVIOUSLY, ON MY TIME ON COUNCIL, BUT ALSO, AS I'VE GROWN UP HERE, I'VE SEEN THOSE CHANGES.
I'VE SEEN HOW DIFFERENT IT'S BECOME IN TERMS OF HOW FAST-PACED THINGS HAVE BEEN MOVING.
I THINK OBVIOUSLY THE STREETS ARE NARROW, THERE'S INCREASED CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC BECAUSE THERE ARE VISITORS THAT ARE COMING IN, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ENJOY WHAT WE GET A CHANCE TO ENJOY.
RESIDENTS OBVIOUSLY HAVE CONSISTENTLY VOICED THOSE CONCERNS.
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT FROM ALSO PEOPLE THAT ARE USING BIKES OR FOLKS THAT ARE WALKING IN THOSE AREAS.
AS A MOM OF A YOUNG CHILD, AS YOU HEARD AND A FELLOW CARLS BED RESIDENT, I TOO HAVE EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND HOW DANGEROUS IT CAN BE NAVIGATING THESE STREETS, WHETHER IT'S HERE IN THE VILLAGE IN BARRIO OR IT'S EVEN IN MY OWN DISTRICT.
I DEFINITELY I'M ON THE PHONE CONSTANTLY WITH THE CITY MANAGER WHENEVER I WITNESS SOMETHING AND HE KNOWS BECAUSE IN THE TRAFFIC, FOLKS KNOW IMMEDIATELY TOO.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US, AND THIS IS THE PLEA I HAD MADE LAST TIME, BUT IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR DRIVERS TO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
I THINK THAT IS ONE THING THAT I WANT TO MAKE REALLY CLEAR IS THAT AS DRIVERS, WE ARE IN A MASS VEHICLE THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY AWARE OF OUR SURROUNDINGS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AND AROUND THIS AREA THAT ARE GOING TO BE WALKING, BIKING, DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS HERE IN THE VILLAGE BECAUSE IT'S SO VIBRANT.
I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I DO SEE PEOPLE BLOWING THROUGH INTERSECTIONS, THROUGH STOP SIGNS.
SOMETIMES THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE BIKING NEAR DISTRACTED DRIVERS, AND EVEN YOU END UP SEEING PEOPLE, I'VE BEEN SOMEBODY WHO HAS CALLED AND I KNOW I WAS VERY SHAKEN BY IT.
THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT WAS HIT BEHIND ME WHILE I WAS WALKING WHEN I WAS HOLDING MY SON'S STROLLER WITH MY DOG, AND THE PERSON BEHIND ME ALSO HAD A STROLLER AND A DOG, AND THEY WERE HIT, AND IT WAS WITHIN FIVE SECONDS.
I THINK JUST THROUGH PERSONAL EXPERIENCE MANY TIMES, AND AGAIN, THAT WAS A NEAR MISS, I AM VERY AWARE OF WHAT GOES ON AND VERY MUCH IN TUNE WITH WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
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ESPECIALLY MANY OF THE FOLKS THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT.I THINK THEY'RE NOT JUST STATISTICS.
THESE ARE ACTUALLY LIVED EXPERIENCES THAT MANY OF US ARE LIVING EVERY DAY.
I KNOW YOU ALL ARE LIVING IT, AND I THINK WE'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT WE WANT TO HAVE SOME FORM OF TRAFFIC CALMING IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR A TRAGEDY IN ORDER TO ACT, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE TIMELY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THIS AND TAKING SERIOUS MEASURES TO MOVE FORWARD.
AFTER LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS AND, OF COURSE, READING THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND UNDERSTANDING THE FULL SCOPE OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES PROJECT, I BELIEVE OPTION 2 OFFERS THAT MOST BALANCED AND THOUGHTFUL PATH FORWARD.
I THINK THAT IT REALLY RESPONDS TO WHAT WE'VE HEARD.
WE'VE HEARD THE SLOW TRAFFIC, THE IMPROVED VISIBILITY, PRESERVING THAT UNIQUE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT REALLY OVERWHELMING FOLKS WITH THE PERMANENT INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES.
WE'VE ALSO HEARD ABOUT THE LOSS OF PARKING, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
AS I MENTIONED WHEN I'M DOWN HERE, I HAVE TO LOOK SO FAR TO PARK, EVEN JUST HAVING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PARK TO GO OUT TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE SOMETIMES.
I THINK BY RETAINING THAT ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE THAT HAS THAT PUBLIC ART TO REFLECT THAT THE AREAS CULTURAL IDENTITY, WE NOT ONLY PRESERVE THE CRITICAL FEDERAL FUNDING THAT'S BEEN SECURED BY CONGRESSMAN MIKE LEVIN, BUT WE ALSO TAKE A CREATIVE APPROACH TO ENHANCING SAFETY IN A WAY THAT REFLECTS OUR COMMUNITY'S VALUES.
AT THE SAME TIME, OPTION 2 ALLOWS US TO EXPLORE MORE TARGETED TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES ELSEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE.
I WON'T GO INTO THE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES SINCE THAT'LL BE PENDING DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DECIDE TONIGHT, AND THEN OF COURSE, IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I THINK WE CAN REALLY LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR EACH STREET AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT NOT ONLY IS GOING TO BE AMENABLE TO THOSE THAT ARE LIVING THERE, BUT ALSO THOSE CHILDREN THAT ARE WALKING AND PLAYING IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
I'LL END WITH THAT OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL APPROACH, AND CLEARLY, YOU ALL KNOW THAT.
YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE ADVOCATING, YOU'RE SHOWING UP, AND IT'S REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO EVERYONE.
I THINK I HOPE THAT THIS APPROACH AND THIS OPTION REFLECTS WHAT WE'VE HEARD.
I DO THINK THAT IT'S A STRONG HYBRID APPROACH AND SHOWS THAT WE ARE HOPEFULLY VALUING THAT FEEDBACK AND THAT WE'RE WILLING TO ADAPT.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR, AND THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO GO OUT DO THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH, MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE REALLY LISTENING.
I THINK THIS IS REALLY STRIKING THAT RIGHT BALANCE IN BETWEEN.
I ALSO THINK THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WALK AWAY FROM THE FEDERAL FUNDING WE SECURED AND IT MAKES SURE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY MAINTAINING AND EXPLORING ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN TO THOSE THAT REACHED OUT, REALLY APPRECIATE IT, AND AGAIN, TO OUR STAFF AND OUR TEAM THAT WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS.
>> FIRST, THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY, SPENDING A COUPLE OF HOURS OF YOUR EVENING TO SHARE YOUR OPINIONS WITH US.
THEY MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE TO US.
THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER.
SHE HAD A TOWN HALL MEETING, ATTRACTED PROBABLY 45 OR 50 RESIDENTS FROM THE BARRIO TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.
I MADE HER DO ALL THE WORK AND THEN I JUST WROTE ON HER COAT TAILS AND SAT IN THE BACK AND LISTENED.
I DID HEAR PROBABLY 95% OF THE RESIDENTS SAY WE DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
I WENT OUT AND JUST RANDOMLY TALKED TO PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE WHO SAID THAT THEY WANTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS, TRAFFIC CIRCLES SAID, "WE DON'T MIND IF YOU DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC CIRCLES, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
THAT'S ALL WE WANT." ONCE I SAID TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED THE CIRCLES, WHAT IF WE PUT IN THE STOP SIGNS, THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, AND THE SPEED CUSHIONS? ALMOST ALL OF THEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE PERSON, SAID, THAT WOULD BE FINE AS LONG AS YOU SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
THAT'S ALL PEOPLE SEEM TO CARE ABOUT OVER THERE.
TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO SIDE WITH EITHER OPTION 2, WHERE WE HAVE JUST ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, WHICH MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE THAT ENTRANCE TO THE BARRIO WITH THAT ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE WITH THE ARTWORK ON IT, OR WITH OPTION 3 WITH NO TRAFFIC CIRCLES. MS. BURKHOLDER.
>> THANK YOU. THIS PROJECT WAS AWARDED IN EARLY 20 TIES AND WAS INTENDED TO SLOW TRAFFIC, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS AN APPETITE FOR TRAFFIC CIRCLES, AND SINCE THEN, MANY NEW STATE LAWS HAVE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED OUR ABILITY TO PLAN AND EXECUTE PROJECTS THAT SOLVE PROBLEMS.
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SOME EXAMPLES OF THOSE LAWS ARE STATE DENSITY BONUS LAWS, PARKING REQUIREMENT LAWS THAT LOWER THE NUMBER OF SPACES NEAR TRANSIT, DAY LIGHTING LAWS THAT TAKE AWAY PARKING SPACES NEAR STOP SIGNS, ALL OF WHICH WERE DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM, THE ROOSEVELT PROJECT.THERE IS ALSO A LAW, SB79, WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH SACRAMENTO, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE 5-7 STORY DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN A HALF MILE OF TRANSIT, INCLUDING BUS STOPS, NOT JUST THE COASTER.
IN ADDITION TO THESE NEW LAWS, WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES LIKE VISTA AND ENCINA RIP OUT THEIR TRAFFIC CALMING AFTER SPENDING MILLIONS ON SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T WORK.
WE TOO HAVE RECENTLY REDESIGNED KELLY DRIVE TO RENDER IT SAFER BY REMOVING TRAFFIC CIRCLES.
THOSE OTHER CITIES ARE WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
ALL OF THOSE REASONS JUSTIFY RETHINKING THIS PROJECT AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF NOT SLOWING SPEED AND TAKING AWAY PARKING.
ON JULY 8, AS WAS MENTIONED, I HOSTED A TOWN HALL MEETING AT THE HARDING CENTER RELATIVE TO THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
I WAS GRATEFUL TO SEE THERE WERE 35 TO THE MAYOR SAYING 50 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE, WHICH IS MORE THAN ATTEND THE ANNUAL BUDGET WORKSHOP.
SOME FOLKS HAD LIVED IN THE BARRIO FOR 70 YEARS AND HAD NEVER ATTENDED A TOWN HALL.
EVERYONE THERE WAS GENUINELY CONCERNED WITH THIS PROJECT.
I HEARD THEIR FRUSTRATIONS ABOUT HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET WORK DONE IN THE BARRIO AND WHAT THE PERCEPTION IS AND THIS IS IMPORTANT.
THEIR PERCEPTION IS, IF SOMETHING IS NEEDED IN OTHER DISTRICTS, IT APPEARS TO HAPPEN FASTER.
I HEARD THAT SPEEDING, E-BIKES, AND LIGHTING ARE ALL CONCERNS.
I HEARD THEY FELT LEFT BEHIND. THEY WANT ACTION.
NOW, I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO PROPOSE AND ADVOCATE FOR ZERO CIRCLES IN THE BARRIO.
HOWEVER, MR. FRANK HAS GIVEN ME NEW INFORMATION RELATIVE TO THE NET SEVEN PARKING SPACES WE WOULD ACTUALLY GAIN AFTER LOSING SEVEN FROM THE PINE AND HARDING TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE STEPS I'VE TAKEN TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE VILLAGE OF BARRIO, TO LISTEN TO THEIR APPEALS.
I'M ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION TONIGHT FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE PHYSICALLY SOUND WHILE ALSO FOCUSING ON MEETING THE NEEDS OF DISTRICT 1.
ACTION I REQUEST TONIGHT THROUGH THIS MOTION IS THAT WE ADOPT OPTION 2, WHICH IS TO DIRECT STUFF TO RETURN TO COUNCIL WITH A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND HIGH LEVEL COST ESTIMATE FOR TRAFFIC CALMING THAT DOES INCLUDE ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE WITH AN ART INSTALLATION AT PINE AND HARDING, AND ADOPT CMWD RESOLUTION TO DIRECT THE EXECUTIVE MANAGER TO RETURN WITH A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND HIGH LEVEL COST ESTIMATE FOR UTILITIES IMPACTED BY TRAFFIC CALMING, THAT DOES INCLUDE ONE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
>> IF THAT'S A MOTION, I WILL SECOND.
>> DID YOU SAY TO BRING THIS BACK BY NOVEMBER?
>> I DID NOT GIVE A TIME SPECIFIC DATE.
WHAT IS THIS MONTH? THIS IS JULY.
IT'S TIME FOR RECESS, Y'ALL. THREE MONTHS OUT.
>> I GOT A NOTE FROM THE CITY MANAGER THAT THEY COULD ADDRESS IT BY NOVEMBER.
>> CAN YOU PLEASE ALTER THE MOTION TO INCLUDE TO BRING IT BACK BY NOVEMBER?
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PLEASE VOTE. YES, SIR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER.
I DO WANT TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT JUST IN REGARDS TO THE RESPONSE THAT YOU'RE SAYING AND YOU'RE PUBLICLY SAYING BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU MAY FEEL OR RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT 1 MAY FEEL LIKE PROJECTS ARE GETTING DONE FASTER IN OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT WE'VE ALL FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE VILLAGE.
ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND YOU SEE THIS GROWTH IN THE VILLAGE.
I THINK IT'S JUST DEPENDING ON WHEREVER YOU'RE AT, YOU ALWAYS FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE I WENT TO THE VILLAGE. I DID MY SHARE.
I DID INTO A TOWN HALL BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT, BUT I DID GO OUT, SPEAK TO OVER 100 PEOPLE WHO ARE DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE AREA.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT A NOTE THAT THIS IS ONE BIG CITY, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TO GET SEPARATED IN DISTRICTS.
>> I'D BE HAPPY TO OFFLOAD SOME DEVELOPMENTS IN DISTRICT, TOO.
>> PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR A 10 MINUTE BREAK.
WE'LL RECONVENE AT 25 MINUTES TO 8:00.
CALLING THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
[15. REVISIONS TO CITY COUNCIL POLICY NO. 100 – CITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE, TRAINING AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TRAVEL POLICY ]
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REVISIONS OF CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 100.
CITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE TRAINING AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TRAVEL POLICY.
FOR THE PRESENTATION IS DIRECTOR OF CONSTITUENT AND CLERK SERVICES FAVIOLA MEDINA.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF CONSTITUENT AND CLERK SERVICES.
THIS ITEM IS HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY AS A RESULT OF THE MARCH 4, CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTE MOTION, THAT DIRECTED STAFF TO RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH AN ITEM TO MODIFY CITY COUNCIL POLICY 100 WITH ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE REGARDING THE [INAUDIBLE]
>> COULD I ASK YOU TO GO A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? THANK YOU.
THE MARCH 4TH MINUTE MOTION INCLUDED LANGUAGE TO RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY 100 WITH ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE REGARDING THE PROCEDURE FOR REPORTING OUT A SYNOPSIS OF TRAVEL DETAILS SUCH AS DATES AND LOCATION OF TRAVEL, ADVOCACY TOPICS, AND ANY VOTES THAT WERE TAKEN.
BASED ON CITY COUNCIL FEEDBACK AT THE MARCH 4 CITY COUNCIL MEETING, STAFF IS PROPOSING A FEW REVISIONS.
THE FIRST REVISION WOULD INCLUDE TO HAVE STAFF LINK THE CITY COUNCIL WEB PAGES TO THEIR RESPECTIVE REGIONAL APPOINTMENTS WEBSITES, FOR ACCESS TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, AGENDAS AND MINUTES OF ACTIONS TAKEN AT THAT MEETING.
FOR ADVOCACY TRAVEL, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD FILL OUT AN ADVOCACY TRAVEL REPORTING FORM WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF TRAVEL TO INCLUDE WHERE THEY WENT, WHO THEY MET WITH, AND WHAT ISSUES OR TOPICS WERE ADVOCATED FOR AT THAT MEETING.
LASTLY, THE TRAVEL FORM WOULD BE POSTED AND MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
THE SURVEY THAT STAFF CONDUCTED OF THE 17 OTHER CITIES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, FOUND THAT ONLY FOUR OTHER CITIES HAVE AN ESTABLISHED POLICY THAT DIRECTS THE CITY COUNCIL TO FORMALLY SHARE INFORMATION RELATING TO THE REPORTING OUT OF ADVOCACY TRAVEL DETAILS.
OFF OF THOSE FORMS THAT THESE FOUR CITIES HAD, WE PULLED SOME OF THAT INFORMATION TO CREATE OUR OWN ADVOCACY TRAVEL FORM, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
IF THIS FORM IS APPROVED AS IS, WE CAN HAVE THAT AVAILABLE AGAIN, ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW.
IF THERE ARE ANY MODIFICATIONS, WE CAN MAKE THOSE REVISIONS, AS COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> I WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS ISSUE IS BEING ADDRESSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
I WAS DISHEARTENED THOUGH TO READ THE STAFF REPORT AND SEE THAT IT ONLY APPLIES WHEN THERE IS ADVOCACY DONE OUT OF A $5,000 ALLOCATION FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.
THERE ARE EVENTS THAT ARE ATTENDED BY THE COUNCIL THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF THAT $5,000 TRAVEL ALLOCATION, SPECIFICALLY THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.
WHEN CARLSBAD BECAME A MEMBER OF THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, WE PAY ANNUAL DUES.
RIGHT NOW, THOSE ANNUAL DUES ARE ABOUT $30,000 ANNUALLY.
THAT MONEY GOES TO LEAGUE OF CITIES WHO THEN USES IT FOR TRAVEL FOR THEIR BOARD MEMBERS TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING BOARD MEMBERS OF LEAGUE OF CITIES.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO TIE THIS TO MONEY THAT'S USED WITHIN THE CITY FOR TRAVEL, THIS HAS TO BE INCLUDED TO ANY TRAVEL TO LEAGUE OF CITIES.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT MEMBERS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE VOTING ON, HOW THEY VOTE, AND IT NEEDS TO BE RECORDED REALLY, AND LEAGUE OF CITIES, IT'S ALL VOICE VOTES.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE VOTES WHEN THEY'RE THERE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MEETINGS YOU'RE ATTENDING.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO ARE SPONSORING THE EVENTS.
LAST YEAR, ONE COUNCIL MEMBER HAD OVER $8,000 WORTH OF INCOME FROM LEAGUE OF CITIES WHEN LEAGUE OF CITY SAYS THEY DON'T PROVIDE COMPENSATION TO ANY OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS.
THIS ISN'T INCOME, IT'S GIFTS.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS LIE.
WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE EVENTS? WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE CONCERTS? WHO'S PAYING FOR THESE DINNERS, THESE WINE EVENTS? THAT ALL HAPPENS WITH TRANSPARENCY.
I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A MORAL OBLIGATION FOR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER TO DISCLOSE THEIR VOTES FOR ANYTHING THEY VOTE ON.
I WOULD ALSO THINK THAT WHEN YOU ATTEND ANY EVENT, YOU WOULD SAY WHO SPONSORED IT, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER ARE
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ABLE TO ADVISE YOU AS TO WHERE CONFLICTS EXIST OR NOT.FOR LEAGUE OF CITIES, SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC IS A HUGE SPONSOR FOR LEAGUE OF CITIES, YET YOU VOTE ON ISSUES INVOLVING SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC REGULARLY.
I WOULD END WITH THE QUOTE I SAW TODAY.
"ORGANIZATIONS CAN ONLY THRIVE WHEN CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY ARE PARAMOUNT.
I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK AT EXTENDING THIS, NOT JUST TO THE $5,000 ALLOCATION FOR TRAVEL TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT DOING IT FOR LEAGUE OF CITIES TRAVEL TOO." THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO START WITH THE QUESTIONS.
IF A MEMBER OF THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES IS APPOINTED TO BE A PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT, ARE THEY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR BY THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES?
>> IF THEY'RE APPOINTED TO THE BOARD, THEY ARE APPOINTED ON AN INDIVIDUAL OUTSIDE OF THE ORGANIZATION'S PROCESS.
THEY COULD BE APPOINTED BY A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION OR THEY CAN DO AN INDIVIDUAL SELF NOMINATION PROCESS.
>> WHAT'S THE RULES ON THEIR VOTING IN THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF SITUATION? DO THEY HAVE TO VOTE THE WAY THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS THEM TO OR ARE THEY A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT VOTE?
>> I WILL DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
>> WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVE ON THIRD FOR THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATIONS, YOU VOTE ON BEHALF OF THE THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATION.
>> THANK YOU. WE'LL JUST KEEP PICKING ON LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.
IF ONE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ACCEPTS A DINNER OR A GIFT, DO THEY ALREADY HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE FPPC AND REPORT IT TO THEM?
>> ANY REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ARE GOVERNED BY THE FPPC.
THEY HAVE THEIR GUIDELINES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THEIR MANUALS AND DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION OR EVENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY THAT TO THAT PARTICULAR EVENT TO FILE IN THE APPROPRIATE MANNER.
>> IF THERE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, WHO MAKES THAT DETERMINATION?
>> THE INDIVIDUAL CAN RECUSE THEMSELVES KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE SERVING ON AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE CITY.
ALSO, THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN ASSIST WITH MAKING THAT DETERMINATION.
>> HEARING THE SPEAKER'S CONCERNS, IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THIS POLICY THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD INCLUDE? NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD THESE CONCERNS THAT THERE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS POLICY?
>> THE ORIGINAL MINUTE MOTION WAS CONCERNING THE REPORTING OUT REQUIREMENTS THAT WEREN'T AS CLEAR AS THEY WERE BEING REPORTED OUT VERBALLY.
THE REQUEST WAS SIMPLY TO BRING BACK THAT LANGUAGE TO MODIFY THE PROCEDURE.
IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE MADE REGARDING THE FORM THAT WE'VE PROVIDED AS A SAMPLE, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
IT REALLY DOES DEPEND ON WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FORM.
>> THE CHANGES TO THIS POLICY ARE GOING TO APPLY ONLY TO THE TRAVEL.
THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE OUR LOCAL REGIONAL APPOINTMENTS, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THIS PARTICULAR FORM IS SPECIFIC TO ADVOCACY TRAVEL.
THE POLICY OR THE REPORTING OUT THE VERBAL REPORTING OUT THAT IS DONE AT THE MEETING, THAT WOULD STILL APPLY.
YOU WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO REPORT OUT TO ANYTHING THAT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED ANY REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE EVENT OR HAD ANY EXPENSES DUE TO THIS EVENT.
THAT STILL HAS TO BE DONE VERBALLY, BUT THE ACTUAL FORM THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO BE FILLING OUT FOR THESE TYPES OF EVENTS WOULD BE FOR ADVOCACY TRAVEL.
I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE ENCINA WASTEWATER.
IF ENCINA WASTEWATER WANTED TO SEND ME TO ANOTHER STATE TO ATTEND A WASTEWATER CONFERENCE, AND THEY PAID FOR IT.
WOULD I STILL BE REQUIRED TO REPORT BACK, OR WOULD IT JUST BE UP TO ME TO REPORT BACK OR HOW WOULD THAT BE HANDLED?
>> THE ENCINA EVENT THAT WAS FUNDED BY ENCINA, SINCE IT IS YOUR REGIONAL APPOINTMENT,
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YOU ARE ABLE TO REPORT OUT ON AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENT IS FOR EXPENSES TO THE LOCAL AGENCY.IN THIS CASE, ANYTHING THE CITY PAID FOR, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN REPORT OUT ON THESE ASSIGNMENTS BECAUSE THEY DO PERTAIN TO THE AGENCY.
>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, MS. BURKHOLDER.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION QUESTION FOR YOU.
YOU SAID IF THE CITY PAYS FOR IT, BUT I THINK YOU MEANT IF THE CITY PAYS FOR THE TRAVEL BECAUSE THE CITY DOES PAY $30,000 A YEAR FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES.
I GUESS I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND HOW TAXPAYERS PAY FOR THIS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE SPEAKER IS ASKING AS WELL.
MAYBE SOMEONE OVER THERE COULD EXPLAIN THAT.
>> I BELIEVE THE WAY THE POLICY IS DRAFTED IS FOR TRAVEL THAT'S PAID FOR BY THE CITY.
WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SERVING AS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF THE DIRECTORS OF CARL CITIES PAYS FOR THAT TRAVEL? THE CITY DOESN'T PAY FOR THAT TRAVEL.
JUST AS A POLICY IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IT WOULDN'T COVER THAT CIRCUMSTANCE.
>> IN ORDER FOR IT TO COVER A CIRCUMSTANCE, WE WOULD HAVE TO SPECIFY THAT TRAVEL INCLUDING, BECAUSE YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE CITY WHEREVER YOU'RE GOING, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ALL ENCOMPASSING OF TRAVEL.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, MAYOR?
>> I'M SORRY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
>> WHEN YOU SAY REPRESENTING THE CITY, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED WAS, IF YOU'RE AND I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP PICKING ON A LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.
IF YOU'RE SAY THE VICE PRESIDENT OR PRESIDENT, THEN YOU'RE NOT REPRESENTING THE CITY, YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE LEAGUE, IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. WHEN YOU'RE SITTING ON A BOARD OF A THIRD-PARTY ORGANIZATION AND YOU'RE BEING SENT SOMEWHERE BY THAT BOARD, YOU'RE ACTING FOR THAT BOARD.
>> THAT'S IT. IS JUST AN INTERESTING GLITCH IN THIS BECAUSE I MEAN, IF I WERE ON A BOARD THAT I NEEDED TO TRAVEL AND REPRESENT THE BOARD, I WOULD HOPE THAT I WOULD BE ADVOCATING FOR CARLSBAD IN MY REPRESENTATION ON THAT BOARD.
ANYWAY, I THINK THERE IS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, PROP 36, I SEEM TO RECALL, THE LEAGUE WAS REALLY LATE AND GETTING ON BOARD WITH.
THERE'S SOME THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE IT SEEMS A BIT ODD.
BUT MAYBE THE ISSUE IS THAT WE PAY $30,000 TO DO THIS, AND WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW. I TRUST THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ADVOCATES FOR CARLSBAD WHEN THEY'RE TRAVELING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THIS POLICY.
I JUST WANTED THE CLARIFICATION ON THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. IF I WERE TO TAKE AN ADVOCACY TRIP, SAY FOR THE WATER AUTHORITY, WHICH IS A REGIONAL APPOINTMENT, AND I AM CURRENTLY THE VICE CHAIR OF THE LEGISLATIVE AND PUBLIC OUTREACH COMMITTEE THAT TALKS ABOUT WATER LEGISLATION.
IF I WERE TO GO TO SACRAMENTO AND TALK ABOUT WATER, USING THE TALKING POINTS GIVEN TO ME BY THE WATER AUTHORITY WITH THE WATER AUTHORITY STAFF, AND THEY PAID FOR IT.
IF I WERE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, THEY DON'T DO THAT FOR JUST A COMMITTEE MEMBER.
BUT IF I WERE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY PAY FOR, I WOULD REPORT BACK AS PART OF MY REPORT OUT, BUT I WOULDN'T FILL OUT THE ADVOCACY TRAVEL REPORTING FORM BECAUSE IT'S ALL PAID FOR BY THE WATER AUTHORITY, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YES. FOR THE ADVOCACY TRAVEL, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY CITY FUNDS.
>> OUT OF THE $5,000 BUDGET THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS FOR TRAVEL.
THAT'S IT. THAT'S CLARIFYING. THANK YOU.
>> MISS BHAT PATEL. THANK YOU.
>> I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT THE SPEAKER HAD ABOUT THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING NECESSARILY THE TRAVEL OUT OF THE 5,000, BUT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE MEMBERSHIP, AND THAT'S STILL PAYING, BUT NOW WE'RE STARTING TO GET INTO THE WEEDS.
ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND AND I TENTATIVELY AGREE WITH THE SPEAKER, I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN VISIT AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO STICK WITH WHAT OUR POLICY IS AND JUST ADDRESS IT FOR OUR TRAVEL EXPERIENCES.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERN WITH THAT? MISS BURKHOLDER? AGAIN, EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE AND WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONS OR CHANGES THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.
>> THE FIRST CHANGE WOULD BE THAT
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THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE WOULD BE LINKED TO THE REGIONAL APPOINTMENTS ORGANIZATIONS WEB PAGES THAT DIRECT THE PUBLIC TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AGENDAS AND MINUTES SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT ACTIONS WERE TAKEN.THE SECOND CHANGE WOULD BE THE ADVOCACY TRAVEL FORM.
THAT WOULD BE SOLELY FOR ADVOCACY TRAVEL, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO FILL OUT WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF THAT TRAVEL HAVING BEEN TAKEN.
THE LAST THING WOULD BE THAT THESE FORMS WOULD BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
THOSE WOULD BE THE CHANGES THAT YOU'D BE APPROVING WITH OUR PROPOSAL.
>> DID YOU SAY SPECIFICALLY THAT THE DISCLOSURE WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE WHAT TOPICS WERE VOTED ON AND HOW WE VOTED?
>> THE ADVOCACY TRAVEL FORM INCLUDES DETAILS, AND I CAN SHARE A SAMPLE OF THAT FORM THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO FILL OUT.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE DETAILS OF THE ADVOCACY CONDUCTED, THAT WOULD INCLUDE WHO, WHERE, WHEN AND TOPICS COVERED.
IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE LOCATION, DATES OF ATTENDANCE, THE TYPE OF CONFERENCE OR MEETING, AS WELL AS THE AGENCY OR ORGANIZATION YOU WERE REPRESENTING, AND THIS WOULD BE THE FORM THAT WOULD BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
>> THANK YOU. ANYTHING? YES, MRS. BURKHOLDER.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION. WHEN IS THE LEAGUE OF CITY'S CONTRACT RENEWED WITH THE CITY? WE'VE NEVER HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST DURING BUDGETING OR.
>> IT'S ONE OF MANY ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS THAT THE CITY BELONGS TO THAT IS APPROVED EACH YEAR AS PART OF OUR LINE ITEM WITH REGARD TO MEMBERSHIPS AS AN ORGANIZATION, AND THAT RANGES FROM ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT ASSOCIATIONS FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS NOT TO MENTION THE NATIONAL AND STATEWIDE ORGANIZATIONS WE BELONG TO.
>> WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PUBLIC IS INTERESTED, NOT JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S HERE THIS LATE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I ALSO HAD OTHER INQUIRIES ABOUT THIS.
PERHAPS DURING THAT TIME, WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THAT'S APPROVED. THAT'S ALL.
>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE PROCEED WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDED POLICY 100 FORM.
>> THANK YOU. IT WOULD BE COUNSEL POLICY 100.
THE RESOLUTION THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT WOULD ALLOW US TO GO THROUGH WITH THOSE CHANGES.
>> THIS ITEM DOES REQUIRE FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.
>> THIS ITEM REQUIRES FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO PASS.
>> PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU TO THE SPEAKER. THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR MEETING. MR. SHIN.
[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
>> DON'T HAVE MUCH, JUST HAPPY RECESS.
>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION WILL BE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S REQUEST TO SEEK COMMUNITY INPUT ON WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD BAN E-BIKE RIDING TO ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 12.
THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AND ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE MEETING.
TONIGHT, I HAVE A MINUTE MOTION TO PROPOSE RELATED TO E-BIKE RIDING AND ENFORCEMENT.
I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO HAVE SOME ACTIONABLE PROPOSALS READY FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION PREPARED FOR THE SAME MEETING WHEN WE CONSIDER THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION ON A POTENTIAL E-BIKE BAN.
THEREFORE, MY MOTION IS TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD PROVIDE OUR POLICE WITH NEW AND ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT TOOLS TO ASSIST THEM IN MAINTAINING ORDER AND PROTECTING RESIDENTS FROM THE CHALLENGES WE ARE HAVING IN CARLSBAD, ADDRESSING AGGRESSIVE E-BIKE RIDER BEHAVIOR, ESPECIALLY AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE.
I THINK WE ALL SITTING UP HERE HAVE HAD MANY OF THOSE TYPES OF COMPLAINTS AND INCIDENCES.
I'D RATHER BE A LITTLE PROACTIVE ON THIS ISSUE, SO THAT IS MY MOTION.
>> CAN I JUST CLARIFY, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION THAT'S BEING MADE? THE TRAFFIC MOBILITY COMMISSION IS HOLDING THEIR MEETING IN MID SEPTEMBER, AND THEY WILL IN THEORY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WILL THEN BE BROUGHT FORWARD LATER IN THE YEAR FOR CONSIDERATION.
YOU'RE ASKING THAT STAFF ALSO INCLUDE AT THAT SAME MEETING A LIST OF OTHER POTENTIAL ACTIONABLE THINGS BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> YES, THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> JUST ADDING SOME OTHER ENFORCEMENT IDEAS THAT WE THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
>> ESSENTIALLY NOT LIMITING IT TO JUST THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS.
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>> IF IT DOESN'T COME DURING THAT MEETING. [LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU. E-BIKES IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME, NOT JUST AT THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING WHEN WE WORKED WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER BURNER TO PASS THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BAN E BIKES FOR UNDER 12, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE TRAFFIC SAFETY MOBILITY COMMISSION WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, BUT ALSO OTHER THINGS.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT E-BIKES AND DRIVERS AND PEDESTRIANS ARE SAFER TOGETHER ON OUR STREETS.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I HEARD FROM STAFF WAS TO GO THROUGH THE COMMISSION AND HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY.
I KNOW WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT AT THE CITY SCHOOLS COMMITTEE MEETING THIS WEEK.
I THINK A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT IS ALREADY BEING GATHERED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME E-BIKE REGULATIONS.
I AM IN SUPPORT OF DOING AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
BUT I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN FULL BLAST TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
THIS ISN'T ANYTHING NEW OR DIFFERENT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.
BUT IF A MOTION HELPS UNDERSCORE THAT, I AM IN SUPPORT.
>> A QUICK QUESTION AS TO OUR LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.
IS THERE ANY TALK ABOUT HOLDING PARENTS AT ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE KIDS? THESE KIDS AREN'T BUYING THESE $2,000 E-BIKES?
>> YEAH, AND MOST OF THOSE ARE BANNED IN THE CITY, THOSE SERONS.
BUT YES, THERE IS TALK OF IT AND ONCE WE PUT IN OUR IDEAS AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN SACRAMENTO, SOMETIMES IT MORPHS INTO SOMETHING THAT IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY.
WE HAVE TO JUST KEEP GOING BACK TO THEN, WHAT CAN WE DO HERE LOCALLY.
BUT WE WERE SUPPORTIVE OF BERNER FOR SURE OF GETTING THAT BILL PASSED.
>> JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THERE WERE OTHER BILLS THAT WE SUPPORTED THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, INCLUDING A HANDBOOK.
A LOT OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO GO THROUGH A BIG PROCESS LIKE THE DMV AND WORKING TO CHANGE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CODES TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.
WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT IN DIFFERENT BITS AND PIECES, BUT ALSO OUR CITY HAS DONE QUITE A FEW THINGS, AS WE ALL KNOW, AFTER WE DECLARE THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION AFTER SOME TRAGEDIES IN OUR CITY.
AMONGST THOSE THINGS, WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO DO EXTRA E-BIKE TRAINING.
WE ARE DOING A LOT AND TO IMPLY THAT WE'RE NOT WORKING HARD ON THIS IS JUST NOT TRUE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WE ARE WORKING FULL BORE ON THIS ISSUE, AND IF A MOTION HELPS UNDERSCORE THAT WE ARE DOING THAT, I SUPPORT THE MOTION TOO.
>> I GUESS THE NEXT PROBLEM IS THAT AS SOON AS YOU TRAIN THIS GROUP, THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP COMING UP RIGHT BEHIND THEM.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON IT THAT PLEASE VOTE? THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. MISS ACOSTA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR CLOSING COMMENTS?
>> YES. RIGHT NOW, THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE IS GOING AROUND TO EACH OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS GIVING PRESENTATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE DO ON THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, INCLUDING OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS PROGRAM, AND HOW THAT WORKS WITH OUR LOBBYISTS WITH THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES AND THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES.
ANYBODY CAN WATCH ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS.
THEY'RE ON VIDEO, THEY TALK ABOUT THE VALUE OF THAT LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY WORK.
I GAVE ONE OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS WITH MR. JASON HABER, OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS DIRECTOR YESTERDAY.
TO THE POLICE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMISSION.
THAT WAS AT 5:00 HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS YESTERDAY.
THE CITY SCHOOL COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING ON THURSDAY THIS WEEK.
THAT'S JULY 31, HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 10:00 A.M. WE WILL BE DISCUSSING E-BIKES AMONG THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT AND SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL.
THOSE ARE TWO REALLY IMPORTANT PARTS OF OUR AGENDA.
I KNOW THAT MAYOR PRIYA BHAT PATEL WILL BE CHAIRING THAT MEETING.
FOR LIGA CALIFORNIA CITY, SAN DIEGO COUNTY DIVISION, WE'VE GOT A LUNCH MEETING WITH THE OTHER CITIES OF THE COUNTY. THAT'S AUGUST 11.
FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, WE MET LAST THURSDAY.
THAT ENTIRE MEETING, THAT'S ALL DAY.
IT STARTS WITH THE COMMITTEES AND THEN HAS THE OFFICIAL BOARD MEETING. IT'S ALL ONLINE.
ANYBODY CAN WATCH ANY OF THOSE VIDEOS.
THEN WE'VE GOT OUR NEXT MEETING, AUGUST 28TH.
I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE WE WILL NOT BE MEETING HERE AGAIN UNTIL SEPTEMBER.
AUGUST 28TH IS OUR NEXT SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, AND ANYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND OR TO WATCH THOSE MEETINGS ON THE WEBSITE. THANK YOU.
I HAVE OUR CITY SCHOOLS COMMITTEE MEETING AS YOU HEARD, AND I WON'T ADD MORE TO THAT.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING, AND THEN WE HAVE CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE AS WELL.
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THEN I KNOW WE'LL HAVE TGIF THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER, OF COURSE, ALL OF AUGUST, AND I'LL BE AT THE LAST ONE.I'LL HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE, AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE ENJOYS THEIR RECESS. THANKS.
>> CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO OUR CITIZENS OF THE YEAR, MAREN SIMONS AND BONNIE AND GUNNER BIGGS.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 07:00 A.M. TO 10:00 A.M. IS THE CARLSBAD REGIONAL COMMUNITY SUMMIT BREAKFAST, ALSO KNOWN AS THE STATE OF THE CITY AT THE WESTERN I'M SORRY, WESTON CARLSBAD RESORT AND SPA, 5480 GRAND PACIFIC DRIVE AND CARLSBAD CITY MANAGER.[CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]
>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND AND THANK STAFF FOR ALL THEIR WORK, ESPECIALLY ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
WE HAD SEVERAL MEDIA ITEMS, BUT TO JUST COMMENT ON THE BARRIO ONE, WE HAD OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, TRANSPORTATION, CITY ATTORNEY, FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND CMWD, TO NAME A FEW DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN HELPING BRING THIS FORWARD.
I WANTED TO COMMEND THEM AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAD AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, AND I HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYS THE BREAK.
>> ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.