[00:00:02] GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 20TH, 2025 CITY OF CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION. [CALL TO ORDER] MINUTES CLERK WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER MERZ. HERE. COMMISSIONER BURROWS. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER FOSTER. PRESENT. VICE CHAIR HUBINGER. HERE. CHAIR MEENES. PRESENT. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. LED BY THIS EVENING BY COMMISSIONER HUBINGER. READY, BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] THE NEXT ITEM ON THE APPROVAL. NEXT MINUTE [LAUGHTER]. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING IS THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 6TH MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6TH BY THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS? OKAY SEEING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION IN REGARD TO APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 6TH MEETING MINUTES? COMMISSIONER. MOTION. YEAH COMMISSIONER BURROWS MAKES THE MOTION. OKAY APPROVED BY FIVE MEMBERS. AND COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY IS ABSENT THAT EVENING, SO SHE ABSTAINED. OKAY. THE FOLLOWING PLANNING COMMISSION PROCEDURES ARE IN EFFECT THIS EVENING. [PUBLIC COMMENT] WE WILL REQUIRE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM FOR ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, INCLUDING PUBLIC HEARINGS. REQUEST FORMS MUST BE TURNED INTO THE MINUTES CLERK PRIOR TO THE MEETING, THE ITEM BEING COMMENCING. ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS REDUCED BY THE CHAIRPERSON. SPEAKERS MAY NOT BE GIVEN TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER. GROUP TIME WILL BE PERMITTED FOR ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA. THE REPRESENTATIVE MUST IDENTIFY THE GROUP, AND AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS OF THE GROUP MUST BE PRESENT DURING THE MEETING IN WHICH THE PRESENTATION IS BEING MADE. THOSE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A GROUP HAVE TEN MINUTES, UNLESS THE TIME IS CHANGED BY THAT CHAIRPERSON. THE MINUTES CLERK WILL CALL THE NAMES OF THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER REQUEST ARE RECEIVED. IN REGARD TO ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA THE BROWN ACT REQUIRES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED, UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. ALL OTHER NON-AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING. IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT NO ACTION ON THESE ITEMS MAY OCCUR. MINUTES CLERK DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS FOR NON-LISTED ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? WE DO HAVE ONE. WILL MIKE CATALANO PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM? AND WHILE COMING TO THE PODIUM, I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU A COUPLE OF THE PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE THIS EVENING. THAT IS THE MINUTES CLERK WILL START THE TIMER AND IT WILL BE GREEN. THE LIGHT MEANS THAT WILL BE GREEN AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. YELLOW MEANS THAT YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE REMAINING AND RED MEANS THE TIME HAS EXPIRED. SINCE THE ITEM'S BROUGHT UP UNDER THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THE COMMISSION IS PREVENTED BY LAW FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON THESE ITEMS. BEFORE YOU BEGIN MAKING COMMENTS, PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MIC CLEARLY AND MAKE AND STATE YOUR NAME. YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA. PLEASE WAIT FOR THE NEXT TIME TO BE OPEN FOR THAT PUBLIC TESTIMONY. YOUR NAME, PLEASE. IS MIKE CATALANO. AND I LIVE AT 3629 JETTY POINT IN THE MYSTIC POINT CONDOMINIUM COMMUNITY. AND I WANTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS FROM MYSELF AND MY WIFE REGARDING A ADU. IN REGARDS TO ADU CONVERSION OF GARAGES AND MULTIFAMILY ZONED COMMUNITIES WHERE CIVIL CODE ARTICLE 1 PROTECTED USES REFERS ONLY TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FOR ADU CONVERSION AND THE CITY'S CALAVERA HILLS MASTER PLAN, MP150 SEEMS TO PRECLUDE ADUS IN MULTIFAMILY ZONED VILLAGES. OUR MYSTIC POINT COMMUNITY IS VILLAGE E1 AND U DOWN THE STREET IN COLLEGE BOULEVARD IS A MULTIFAMILY VILLAGE Y THAT IS ZONED FOR AFFORDABLE LIVING. IN READING THE CITY'S IB 111 POLICY, IT SEEMS TO ALLOW ADU CONVERSION OF ATTACHED GARAGES, MULTIFAMILY HOME COMMUNITIES AND WHICH GUIDELINE IS CORRECT? SHOULD WE FOLLOW THE CIVIL CODE ARTICLE 1 OR THE IB 111? [00:05:12] I SPOKE TO YOU, ERIC, EARLIER TODAY [LAUGHTER] SO. CONTINUE TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION. AND THAT IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM WE REALLY CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT THIS EVENING. OKAY A HOMEOWNER IN OUR MYSTIC POINT COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ZONED R MH, HAS CONVERTED HIS GARAGE TO AN ADU USING PLANS APPROVED BY THE CITY PLANNER WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY'S HOA, NOR FOLLOWING THE HOA CC&RS AND MODIFYING THE HOA OWNED PRESTRESSED FOUNDATION AND EARTHQUAKE DAMAGE PREVENTION SHEAR WALLS WITHOUT HOA APPROVAL. HIS ACTION ALSO WILL RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT INSURANCE AND MAINTENANCE COST INCREASES. AND IRONICALLY, THIS MAKES OUR COMMUNITY MUCH LESS AFFORDABLE FOR THE MANY FIXED INCOME RETIREES WHO LIVE THERE AND FIRST TIME HOMEOWNERS WITH SMALL CHILDREN. DOES THIS FALL WITHIN THE CITY AND STATE'S ADU LEGAL POLICIES? IF NOT, HOW IS THIS LEGAL AND WHY DID THE CITY ALLOW THIS ADU TO PROCEED? AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR LIMITATIONS HERE, SO NO WORRIES ABOUT THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING WE APPRECIATE YOU PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. HEARING PROCEDURES COMMISSION WILL FOLLOW THESE PROCEDURES THIS EVENING. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE OPENED. STAFF WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS BY THE STAFF. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AND RESPOND TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. WILL HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR THEIR PRESENTATIONS. PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL THEN BE OPENED. A TIME LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES IS ALLOTTED FOR EACH SPEAKER. AFTER THOSE WANTING TO SPEAK IS DONE SO THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL BE CLOSED. THE APPLICANT AND STAFF WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THOSE ISSUES OR QUESTIONS RAISED. THE COMMISSIONERS WILL THEN DISCUSS THE ITEM AND THEN VOTE ON IT. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED. CERTAIN PLANNING COMMISSION DECISIONS ARE FINAL BUT MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. YOU CAN FIND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE BACK OF YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER 1. [1. INNS OF AMERICA AMEND - 2024-0008/CUP 2024-0009/PUD 2024-0009(DEV99017)] BUT BEFORE DOING SO, I'LL ASK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR EX PARTE CONVERSATIONS. COMMISSIONER MERTZ. I VISITED THE SITE. COMMISSIONER BURROWS, I DROVE BY THE SITE. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. COMMISSIONER FOSTER. I'VE DRIVEN BY THE SITE MANY TIMES. COMMISSIONER HUBINGER. YEAH, I'VE DRIVEN BY THE SITE MANY TIMES, AND I DROVE BY THE SITE AS WELL. MR. LARDY, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM? YES THANK YOU AND HERE TO PRESENT THIS ITEM IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MIKE STRONG, SENIOR PLANNER IZAGUIRRE WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, CITY PLANNER. OR CITY PLANNER LARDY AND GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION. ITEM 1 ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS THE INNS OF AMERICA. IT'S A REQUEST FOR A SECRET DETERMINATION OF EXEMPTION, AMENDMENT TO A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON A THREE ACRE LOT AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CANNON ROAD AND AVENIDA ENCINAS. THE SITE CONTAINS APPROXIMATELY 65,000FT² OF 98 GUEST ROOM HOTEL WITH POOL AND SPA, AND 123 SURFACE PARKING SPACES. THE SITE IS ZONED PLANNED INDUSTRIAL AND THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION IS PLANNED INDUSTRIAL. THE PROJECT PROPOSED TO CONVERT THE EXISTING HOTEL INTO 98 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNIT. NO NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE WILL BE ADDED TO THE EXISTING BUILDING. THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE INTERIOR RENOVATIONS AS WELL AS EXTERIOR SITE AMENITIES AND IMPROVEMENTS. THE EXISTING GUEST ROOMS WILL BE CONVERTED INTO 98 RENTAL UNITS, RESULTING IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY OF 31.4 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. 15 UNITS WILL BE RESERVED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE SITE WILL MAINTAIN 123 PARKING SPACES, EXCEEDING THE 98 SPACES REQUIRED BY OUR CODE. THE PROJECT PROPOSES ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL AMENITIES, INCLUDING TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS SURROUNDED BY A SIX FOOT TALL FENCE, A DOG RUN AND A 288 SQUARE FOOT BIKE AND SURFBOARD STORAGE. RESIDENTIAL USES MAY BE CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED IN THE PLANNED INDUSTRIAL ZONE, WITH THE APPROVAL OF BOTH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PERMIT BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND SUBJECT TO CERTAIN FINDINGS. AS EXPLAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND EXHIBITS. STAFF BELIEVES THOSE FINDINGS CAN BE MADE. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN A LARGER INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT SUPPORTS A VARIETY OF USES, CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN INDUSTRIAL ZONE. THE EXISTING HOTEL IS WELL INTEGRATED INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, AND ITS CONVERSION TO RESIDENTIAL USE WILL MAINTAIN COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND SUPPORT THE CONTINUED VITALITY OF THE SURROUNDING INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE USES. [00:10:04] THE PROJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY MORE THAN 25 LOCAL SERVING BUSINESSES ALONG AVENIDA ENCINAS, WHICH PROVIDES A DIVERSE RANGE OF GOODS AND SERVICES. THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR JOBS IN A RANGE OF OCCUPATIONS AND PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS. THE PROJECT PROVIDES HOUSING, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE UNITS ACROSS VARIOUS INCOME CATEGORIES, PROVIDING HOMES AND JOBS TOGETHER WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE AND WORK ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER IN A COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. CANNON ROAD AND AVENIDA ENCINAS PROVIDE A CONVENIENT VEHICLE ACCESS AND SIDEWALKS AND BICYCLE LANES ALONG AVENUE ENCINAS SUPPORT BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL. BETWEEN THE PROJECT SITE AND THE LARGER BUSINESS PARK. THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, WHICH WILL REMAIN, FEATURES A CONTEMPORARY SOUTHWESTERN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE WITH MISSION STYLE BARREL TILE ROOFING, LIGHT TAN STUCCO AND TAN EAVES AND RAFTER TAILS, ARCHITECTURAL TOWERS, ACCENT BANDING, AND METAL RAILINGS ON THE SECOND AND THIRD STORY WINDOWS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL VISUAL INTEREST. EXISTING MATURE PERIMETER LANDSCAPING IS LOCATED ALONG THE EASTERN AND SOUTHERN AND WESTERN PROPERTY LINES, AND THE BUILDING IS SETBACK ALMOST 50FT FROM AVENIDA ENCINAS. STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO INCREASE DENSITY AND RECEIVE REDUCTIONS IN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, IN EXCHANGE FOR RESERVING A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF NEW DWELLING UNITS TO BE RESERVED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. DEVELOPER IS SEEKING TO QUALIFY THE PROJECT AS A DENSITY BONUS PROJECT PURSUANT TO STATE LAW, AND TO NOT INCREASE THE DENSITY ABOVE THE BASE DENSITY, BUT TO ACCESS THE ASSOCIATED BENEFITS SUCH AS INCENTIVES, CONCESSIONS, AND WAIVERS. UNDER STATE LAW, THERE IS NO LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF WAIVERS OR REDUCTIONS OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT MAY BE GRANTED. AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE PROJECT IS WITHIN THE PLANNED INDUSTRIAL ZONE, WHICH DOES NOT DESIGNATE A DENSITY FOR THE SITE. HOWEVER, THE PLAN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, WHICH IMPLEMENTS THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION, ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF UP TO TO 40 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IF APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE PROJECT THEREFORE HAS A BASE DENSITY OF UP TO 125 UNITS. THE PROJECT MEETS THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS OF STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW BY PROVIDING 5% OF THE BASE DENSITY HOUSING UNITS, OR SEVEN UNITS RESTRICTED TO VERY LOW INCOME. THIS WOULD ENTITLED THE DEVELOPER TO INCREASE THE DENSITY OF THE PROJECT BY 20%, OR 25 UNITS, UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 150 UNITS. IN ADDITION TO THE AFFORDABLE UNIT PROVIDED BY THE PROJECT TO BE GRANTED A DENSITY BONUS UNDER DENSITY BONUS LAW. THE DEVELOPER IS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE, WHICH REQUIRES DEVELOPERS TO PROPOSE A TOTAL OF SEVEN OR MORE UNITS TO PROVIDE AT LEAST 15% OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS AFFORDABLE TO LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. THE PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 15 UNITS RESTRICTED TO LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS OR 15 UNITS TOTAL. THE DEVELOPER HAS CHOSEN TO CONVERT THE EXISTING 98 GUEST ROOMS INTO 98 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, RATHER THAN 150 UNITS ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW. THE DEVELOPER CAN STILL ACHIEVE THE CONCESSIONS, INCENTIVES AND WAIVERS, EVEN THOUGH THE DEVELOPMENT HAS CHOSEN NOT TO UTILIZE THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY PERMITTED. THE DEVELOPER'S REQUESTING FOR WAIVERS IS ALLOWED BY STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW. THE FIRST WAIVER IS A REQUEST TO WAIVE THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING STANDARD UNDER CHAPTER 21.85, WHICH REQUIRES DEVELOPMENTS TO PROVIDE TEN OR MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS TO HAVE AT LEAST 10% OF THE LOWER INCOME UNITS RESERVED TO THREE OR MORE BEDROOMS. THE EXISTING HOTEL CONSISTS OF STUDIO AND ONE BEDROOM GUEST ROOMS ONLY. DEVELOPERS REQUEST AND WAIVE THE STANDARDS SO THEY CAN CONVERT THE EXISTING GUEST ROOMS INTO RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHILE MAINTAINING THE EXISTING FLOOR PLAN. WAIVER TWO IS A REQUEST TO WAIVE THE RESIDENTIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARD IN CHAPTER 21.45, WHICH REQUIRES DWELLING UNITS ADJACENT TO ARTERIAL ROADWAYS TO OBSERVE A FULLY LANDSCAPED SETBACK OF 40FT FROM THE PRIME ARTERIAL ROADS. THIS STANDARD REQUIRES 40FT SETBACK FROM CANNON ROAD. THE DEVELOPERS REQUEST AND REDUCE THE SETBACK TO ZERO FEET TO ALLOW FOR THE PROPOSED ACTIVE COMMUNITY RECREATIONAL SPACE AT THE CORNER OF CANNON ROAD AND AVENIDA ENCINAS. THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCE WILL MEET THIS STANDARD. HOWEVER, IT WILL NOT BE FULLY LANDSCAPED AS REQUIRED BY THE STANDARD. THE THIRD WAIVER IS A REQUEST TO WAIVE THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STANDARD UNDER CHAPTER 21.45, WHICH REQUIRES 200FT² OF COMMUNITY RECREATIONAL SPACE PER UNIT. THE PROJECT REQUIRES 19,600FT² OF COMMUNITY RECREATIONAL SPACE. 15,518FT² IS PROPOSED. THE FOURTH AND FINAL WAIVER IS A REQUEST TO WAIVE THE PLAN, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARD OR CHAPTER 21.34, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 35FT, WITH AN ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTION PERMITTED UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 45FT. [00:15:01] THE EXISTING BUILDING IS 36.9FT AT THE ROOF EDGE, WITH TWO EXISTING TOWERS AT 45.5FT AND 45.6FT TALL. DEVELOPERS REQUEST AND WAIVE THIS STANDARD TO ALLOW FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING HEIGHT TO REMAIN AS IS. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND THE DETAILS OF THE REQUEST, AND THE APPLICABLE STUDIES PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, AND FINDS THE PROJECT BELONGS TO A CLASS OF PROJECTS THAT DO NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND IS THEREFORE CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO PREPARE FURTHER ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. THIS PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, LESS THAN FIVE ACRES IN SIZE AND SURROUNDED BY URBAN USES. THESE ARE ALL CRITERIA TO HELP QUALIFY FOR THE INFILL EXEMPTION 15332. THE SITE HAS NO VALUE AND HABITAT OR ENDANGERED RARE THREATENED SPECIES WILL NOT RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO TRAFFIC, NOISE, AIR QUALITY OR WATER QUALITY, AND THE SITE IS SERVED BY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE UTILITIES. NONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION LISTED IN CEQA GUIDELINES OR OUR LOCAL MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 19.04 APPLY. THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO CEQA EXEMPTION DETERMINATION ALONG WITH THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT OR PERMIT APPROVALS. THE DRAFT NOTICE OF EXEMPTION IS INCLUDED IN AS AN EXHIBIT TO THE STAFF REPORT. THE DEVELOPER HAS COMPLETED THE EARLY PUBLIC NOTICE PROCEDURES PURSUANT TO CITY COUNCIL POLICY 84, WHICH INCLUDE MAILING A NOTICE OF PROJECT APPLICATION TO ALL OWNERS OF PROPERTY LOCATED WITH 600 FOOT RADIUS AND ALL RESIDENTS WITHIN 100 FOOT RADIUS OF THE PROJECT SITE, AND A POSTING OF THE SIGN ON THE PROJECT SITE. ALSO, THE DEVELOPER ALSO COMPLETED AN ENHANCED STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH PROGRAM BY MAILING AN INFORMATION PACKET TO ALL OWNERS LOCATED WITHIN THE SAME DISTANCE OF THE PROJECT SITE. THE INFORMATION PACKET INCLUDED DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT ALONG WITH THE SITE PLAN, TOPOGRAPHICAL SURVEY, COLORED ELEVATIONS, AND COLORED RENDERINGS. A TOTAL OF SEVEN COMMENT LETTERS WERE RECEIVED. SIX WERE A RESULT OF THE EARLY PUBLIC NOTICE AND ENHANCED STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH, AND ONE WAS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH HAS BEEN POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND PROVIDED THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING. SIX OF THE COMMENTS WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT AND ONE COMMENT WAS IN SUPPORT. ALSO EXPRESSING CONCERNS WITH THE PICKLEBALL COURTS DUE TO NOISE, A NOISE STUDY WAS PROVIDED WHICH INCLUDED AN EVALUATION OF ON SITE NOISE SOURCES, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURT. THE NOISE STUDY FOUND THAT THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE CITY'S NOISE GUIDELINES, EXTERIOR NOISE EXPOSURE LEVELS, AND POLICIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN NOISE ELEMENT. ONE COMMENT RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION EXPRESSED CONCERN WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON THE SITE AND THE LACK OF KITCHEN APPLIANCES FOR EACH UNIT. HOWEVER, ALL PROPOSED UNITS WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, WHICH WILL REQUIRE INSTALLATION OF INDEPENDENT AND FULLY COMPLIANT COOKING FACILITIES. THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL RELEVANT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS, INCLUDING A PLANNED INDUSTRIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE PLAN INDUSTRIAL ZONE AND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH MELLO II SEGMENT OF LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, AND THAT THE THREE STORY STRUCTURES WILL NOT OBSTRUCT VIEWS OF THE COASTLINE AS SEEN FROM PUBLIC LANDS OR THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, NOR OTHERWISE DAMAGE THE VISUAL BEAUTY OF THE COASTAL ZONE. THERE ARE NO SENSITIVE RESOURCES LOCATED ON SITE, AND NO PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR COASTAL SHORELINE ACCESS ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE SUBJECT SITE. THE PROJECT ALSO COMPLIES WITH THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE AND STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW REGULATIONS. AS SUCH, FOR REASONS SPECIFIED IN THIS PRESENTATION AND IN THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF RECOMMENDS A SINGLE MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, WHICH DOES BOTH APPROVE. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE CEQA DETERMINATION AND THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AMENDMENT, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AS DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. STRONG. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. YOU MENTIONED OR MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT YOU SAID THERE'S NO VALUE TO THE HABITAT THAT'S ON THE SITE? YET IT'S IN THE COASTAL COMMISSION. IT'S IN THE COASTAL ZONE. AND IT'S THREE BLOCKS FROM THE BEACH. SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY NO VALUE? THE PROJECTS AS PROPOSED, IS CONVERTING AN EXISTING STRUCTURE WITH LITTLE TO NO EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, ONLY THOSE SITE AMENITIES RELATED TO THE PICKLEBALL COURT AND THE OUTDOOR STORAGE AREA. MORE PAVING. THE REFERENCE TO THE IMPACT TO HABITAT IS REFERENCE TO THE FINDINGS NEEDED TO APPROVE THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, AND ALSO THE POLICIES OF THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM. SO THE IDEA IS THAT THERE AREN'T ANY IMPAIRMENT OR INFRINGEMENT ON ANY COASTAL VALUE RESOURCES. [00:20:04] IN THIS CASE, WHAT HELPS THE PROJECT APPLICANT AND THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS THAT IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING WITH MINIMAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROJECT SITE. SO THE FINDINGS OF THE STAFF REPORT ARE TO INDICATE THAT THERE ARE NO IMPACTS TO COASTAL ACCESS, COASTAL VISUAL RESOURCES. AND WITH RESPECT TO YOUR DIRECT QUESTION, COASTAL HABITAT. OKAY BUT THINGS ARE BEING MITIGATED BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING STRUCTURE. NO VALUE SOUNDS LIKE IT'S IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOTHING WORTHY ON THAT SITE. SO THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, ARE THE STRAWBERRY FIELDS CONSIDERED PUBLIC LAND BECAUSE THEY'RE OWNED BY SDG&E? IT IS OWNED BY A PUBLIC AGENCY. SO IT IS A PUBLIC ASSET IN THEIR INVENTORY. BUT THIS SITE DOES NOT COMPROMISE ITS AVAILABILITY TO SERVICE ANY COASTAL RESOURCES. WITH RESPECT TO THE COASTAL HABITAT COMMENT OR AS IT WAS CHARACTERIZED IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE VALUE IS REFLECTIVE UPON OUR HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE MAPPED AREAS OF HARD LAND AND SOFT LINE AREAS WHERE THERE IS IDENTIFIED SENSITIVE HABITAT. AND THIS ISN'T ONE OF THOSE SITES. SO ITS CONVERSION TO A HOTEL WOULD NOT COMPROMISE ANY OF THE CULTURAL RESOURCES SURROUNDING THIS SITE, INCLUDING THE STRAWBERRY FIELDS. THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE IF IT'S CONSIDERED PUBLIC LAND AND IT'S UNDEVELOPED, DOES IT AFFECT THE VIEW CORRIDORS? BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN OF COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS. CORRECT? IT IS RELATED TO COASTAL VISUAL RESOURCES. THE INTERSTATE 5 ITSELF IS NOT A SCENIC HIGHWAY FOR THE PURPOSES OF CEQA, BUT IT IS IDENTIFIED AS A CORRIDOR IN THE SCENIC RESOURCE INVENTORY OF OUR GENERAL PLAN. THIS IS AN EXISTING RESOURCE, SO IT'S NOT CHANGING THE IMPACTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE TODAY ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS I KNOW THAT OR FROM PAST CONVERSATIONS, AND MAYBE THIS HAS BEEN CHANGED DUE TO CHANGES IN LEGISLATION. DOES THE COASTAL ZONE HAVE A HOTEL AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT AND IS THAT CHANGING IN IT? IS CONVERTING THIS FROM A HOTEL TO AN APARTMENT BUILDING CHANGING THAT? SO THE COASTAL COMMISSION, AS WELL AS OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM DO HAVE PROVISIONS FOR LOW COST VISITOR ACCOMMODATION, WHICH IS THE CLASSIFICATION. OUR EXISTING LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM HAS A FEW VERY GENERAL POLICIES RELATED TO IT. OUR DRAFT LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION, HAS MUCH MORE SPECIFIC POLICIES, AS WELL AS COMPLETED EVALUATIONS, AND IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC HOTELS THAT MEET THE DEFINITION OF LOW COST VISITOR ACCOMMODATION IN CARLSBAD. THIS HOTEL WAS NOT IDENTIFIED IN THAT EVALUATION DUE TO ITS EXISTING RENTAL RATES. WE ALSO CHECKED THE CURRENT RENTAL RATES AGAINST WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A LOW COST VISITOR ACCOMMODATION, AND IT DOES NOT MEET THAT DEFINITION. SO THEREFORE, IN OUR INTERPRETATION AND EVALUATION, NONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS APPLY. AND SO THERE IS NO OPPOSITION OR THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS ON CHANGING IT FROM ACCOMMODATION TO RESIDENTIAL. GOING BACK TO YOUR EARLIER QUESTION, BECAUSE I WAS LOADING UP A MAP. THE STRAWBERRY FIELDS PART THAT IS FARM TO STRAWBERRY FIELDS IS NOT DESIGNATED AS OPEN SPACE ON OUR MAP OR AS A PUBLIC PARK. IT IS DESIGNATED PUBLIC UTILITY. THE PART IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THAT, WHICH IS ALSO STATE OWNED AND COVERED BY THE BALLOT INITIATIVE IS DESIGNATED AS OPEN SPACE. BUT THAT'S EVEN FURTHER EAST. AND AND REALLY NOT A VIEW CORRIDOR OF THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. AND THERE'S ONE LAST QUESTION. IS BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE COASTAL ZONE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE. COULD VACATION RENTALS WOULD OR POSSIBLY VACATION RENTALS BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE SHORT TERM RENTALS VERSUS REGULAR RENTALS REGULAR LONG TERM? SO WE'RE TAKING THE POSITION THAT IT'S RESTRICTED FROM THOSE PROJECT SITES. THANK YOU. HAVE A QUESTION, MR. STRONG OR MAYBE MR. [00:25:02] LARDY MIGHT WANT TO ANSWER THIS. MEANING THAT THIS IS A CONVERSION OF A HOTEL INTO RESIDENTIAL UNITS. COULD YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT AND PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION TO US IN REGARD TO THE CITY APPROVED HOUSING ELEMENT AND HOW THAT HOUSING ELEMENT AND ADDING ADDITIONAL RENTAL, EXCUSE ME, A RENTAL APARTMENTS OR RESIDENTIAL TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT MAYBE POSSIBLY IT MIGHT BE EDUCATIONAL AND HELPFUL FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS. SURE THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY SECTIONS OF ANALYSIS AND MONITORING FOR REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS COMPLIANCE. AND SO EVERY EIGHT YEARS, THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE WORKS WITH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT. SO IN THIS CASE, OUR LOCAL SANDAG TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS AND THEN ALLOCATE THAT NEED TO EACH JURISDICTION WITHIN THE REGION. SO IN THE SAN DIEGO REGION, WE HAVE 19 MEMBER AGENCIES. EACH WERE ASSIGNED AN ALLOCATION OF FUTURE HOUSING GROWTH OR NEEDS. SOME OF THAT GROWTH COULD BE ACCOMMODATED BY EXISTING INVENTORIES OF LAND. AND IF THERE WAS A SHORTFALL, THOSE AGENCIES HAD TO GO THROUGH AN EXERCISE TO UP ZONE ADDITIONAL LANDS TO MEET THEIR FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS. SO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD WAS ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES THAT DID NOT HAVE A LAND USE INVENTORY, EXISTING LAND USE INVENTORY TO MEET ITS FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS. SO THERE WAS A REZONE PROGRAM THAT ULTIMATELY WAS ADOPTED IN JANUARY 1ST OF 2024. THAT ALSO HAS BEEN RECENTLY CERTIFIED BY THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION JUST A WEEK AGO OR SO. SO THE REZONING PROGRAM HAS IS IN EFFECT. AND SO THAT DEMONSTRATES THE ABILITY FOR THE JURISDICTION CITY OF CARLSBAD TO ACCOMMODATE ITS FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS. THAT'S A PLANNING EXERCISE. THERE IS A SEPARATE ONE THAT MONITORS THE PERFORMANCE OF THE NUMBER OF BUILDING PERMITS THAT ARE ISSUED AGAINST THE FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE REZONE PROGRAM WOULD ACCOMMODATE WITH DIFFERENT AFFORDABILITY LEVELS. THE STATE REQUIRES EACH AGENCY IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO REPORT ITS ANNUAL PRODUCTION. THAT PRODUCTION IS BASED ON DIFFERENT INCOME CATEGORIES OF ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE'S ABOVE MARKET DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN IF THERE'S RESTRICTED DEVELOPMENT, MAYBE ALLOCATED TO MODERATE OR LOWER INCOME CATEGORIES. THIS PROJECT SITE WAS NOT ON OUR RESIDENTIAL LAND INVENTORY BECAUSE IT WAS PRESUMED TO REMAIN AS A COMMERCIAL USE OR ACCOMMODATION. SO THE IT HAS NO IMPACT ON THE PLANNING EXERCISE TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS FROM THE RHNA PLANNING STANDPOINT. BUT IT DOES PROVIDE ACTUAL HOUSING UNITS. SO WHEN THE CITY TRACKS ITS PRODUCTION NUMBERS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, IT'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT TO THE STATE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE GENERATED BY THE ASSUMED INCOME YIELDS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE SITE. SO IT IS A DENSITY BONUS PROJECT. IT DOES MEET OUR INCLUSIONARY HOUSING STANDARDS. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DEED RESTRICTED UNITS THAT WILL BE REPORTED TO THE STATE AT THOSE INCOME CATEGORIES. THE REST WILL BE PRESUMED AS ABOVE MODERATE, BUT THAT, ALONG WITH ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY BY EACH CALENDAR YEAR, IS REPORTED TO THE STATE AND IS DOCUMENTING THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO COMPLY WITH ACTUAL HOUSING STARTS TO MEET THE HOUSING NEEDS THAT WERE ASSIGNED IN THAT EARLIER PLANNING EXERCISE. AND MR. STRONG, COULD YOU GO TO SLIDE 62 REAL QUICK? SO JUST TO BRIEFLY ECHO WHAT WHAT MR. STRONG ALLOCATED, WE DO HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT HAPPENS IN MARCH OF EACH YEAR THAT HIGHLIGHTS HOW MUCH HAS BEEN PRODUCED AGAINST OUR RHNA ASSIGNMENT BY INCOME CATEGORY. IT IS BASED ON UNITS ISSUED FOR THE PREVIOUS CALENDAR YEAR. SO THIS IS REFLECTED OF WHAT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL IN MARCH. AS YOU SEE, OUR ALLOCATION WAS WEIGHTED MORE TOWARDS THE LOW AND VERY LOW GIVEN SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC PROJECTIONS OF CARLSBAD ASSIGNMENT, BUT IF AND WHEN BUILDING PERMITS ARE ISSUED FOR THIS, IT WOULD HAVE SEVEN UNITS ALLOCATED INTO THE VERY LOW EQUIVALENT UNITS INTO THE LOW MODERATE, AND THEN THE BALANCE WOULD BE IN THE REPORTED IN THE ABOVE MODERATE CATEGORY. SO IT WOULD HELP OUR PRODUCTION. THIS IS ALSO SHOWING THE 5TH HOUSING ELEMENT CYCLE WHICH THE UNITS ISSUED DO SHOW A SIMILAR TREND. AND IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO CLASSIFY AND REPORT ON THE MODERATE, LOW AND VERY LOW BECAUSE THOSE ESSENTIALLY HAVE TO BE DEED RESTRICTED UNITS TO BE ABLE TO REPORT ON THEIR AFFORDABILITY AT THOSE LEVELS. AND AS EVINCED ON THIS SLIDE, THE CITY HAS MADE SOME PROGRESS IN ITS LOWER INCOME CATEGORIES, BUT NOT NEARLY ENOUGH THAT WAS PREDICTED. AND THAT'S A SHARED CHARACTERISTIC OF MOST CITIES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THE STATE HAS NOT ONLY REQUIRED THE MONITORING AND COMPLIANCE PROGRAM, BUT ALSO HAS TRIED TO CREATE [00:30:06] SOME STICKS TO ENCOURAGE AGENCIES TO REALLY ACTIVELY PURSUE THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. AND THE MOST COMMON ONE THAT'S REFERRED TO AS SB 35. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HCD UTILIZES AND PUBLISHES A REPORT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OF THOSE CITIES THAT ARE EITHER MEETING THEIR TARGETS OR FALLING BELOW ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THOSE CITIES THAT DO NOT SATISFY THOSE TARGETS ARE MEETING THOSE PERFORMANCE METRICS FALL INTO A STREAMLINING PROCESS WHERE A PROJECT APPLICANT CAN PURSUE CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT TYPES. AND THOSE AGENCIES LOSE EVEN MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR DECISION MAKING PROCESS. THERE ARE SOME IMPEDIMENTS FOR DEVELOPERS TO PURSUE THAT. AND PREDOMINANTLY IT'S PAYING PREVAILING WAGE FOR THE LABOR TO CONSTRUCT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT NONETHELESS THE STATE IS ACTIVELY MONITORING THE PRODUCTION. SO EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS. AND THIS PROJECT IS CERTAINLY HELPING BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ANTICIPATED. THANK YOU, MR. STRONG. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT IS ADDING MORE UNITS FOR RESIDENTIAL THAT WE HAD NOT ANTICIPATED IN THE PAST. CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF CONTINUE MR. MERTZ. I NOTICED ON THE UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS PLANNED INDUSTRIAL. THEN THE IN THE ENDS OF CARLSBAD OPERATED UNDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. I GUESS THIS ONE ALSO PART OF THE STAFF REPORT MEETS THE FINES FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. DOES THAT HAVE LIKE AN EXPIRATION DATE ON THAT OR DOES THAT THING JUST AUTOMATICALLY RENEW? BECAUSE USUALLY THEY GO FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS. SO IT'S JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S A TIME FRAME ON THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE STAFF REPORT. I'M NOT AWARE OF THE SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME OF THAT USE PERMIT. I'D HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP. HISTORICALLY, WE ISSUED USE PERMITS WITH A FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD AND THEN AN EXTENSION PROCESS UNDER ADVICE OF CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL AS SOME AMENDMENTS TO OUR CODE. WE NO LONGER HAVE EXPIRATION DATES SPECIFICALLY TIED TO USE PERMITS. ESSENTIALLY, IF THE USE IS ISSUED AND THEN THERE'S USE AND RELIANCE ON THAT PERMIT, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A HEARING PROCESS TO TAKE AWAY A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT USES GRANTED TO A PROPERTY. AND THERE IS A PROCESS TO IF THERE WAS A NUISANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD POTENTIALLY PURSUE HEARINGS TO TAKE SOMETHING AWAY. BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE WE COULD DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY. OH, GOOD. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IN TEN YEARS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN LIKE RENEW THIS PERMIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO AND IN FACT, SOME OF THE CONDITIONS, SUCH AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGREEMENT, ARE GOING TO RUN FOR A PERIOD OF 55 YEARS ON THIS PROPERTY SO. OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES. GOOD EVENING I'M JIM MCMENAMIN WITH THE ALLIANCE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THE APPLICANT FOR THE FLATS AT TERRAMAR. WE WANTED TO THANK LAUREN IZAGUIRRE. UNFORTUNATELY SHE'S NOT HERE AND WE WISH HER WELL AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND CITY STAFF FOR HELPING US DURING THIS APPLICATION PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR PLAN FOR CONVERTING AND RENOVATING THE STUDIO 6 EXTENDED STAY HOTEL INTO MULTIFAMILY RENTAL HOMES. THE PLAN WILL PROVIDE NEW RENTAL HOMES NEAR EXISTING BUSINESSES SHOPPING IN THE COAST, INCLUDING 15 AFFORDABLE HOMES. HOMES IN THE AFFORDABLE CATEGORY. OUR CONSULTING TEAM IS HERE AND OUR TEAM MEMBER, ANNA MCPHERSON, WITH THE ATLANTIS GROUP WILL SHARE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION NOW WITH YOU AS SHE SUMMARIZES OUR PLAN IN MORE SPECIFIC DETAIL. THANK YOU AGAIN, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT AND FAVOR OF APPROVAL AND THIS IS ANNA THANK YOU. AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. YES THANK YOU. ANNA MCPHERSON WITH THE ATLANTIS GROUP. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN MEENES AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M VERY PLEASED TO PRESENT THE FLATS AT TERRAMAR THIS EVENING. A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, 5010 AVENIDA AND ENCINAS STAFF HAS PREPARED A COMPREHENSIVE AND THOROUGH REPORT AS YOU JUST READ AND SAW. SO I WILL FOCUS MY POINTS ON THE KEY PROJECT AND SITE CHARACTERISTICS THAT SUPPORT PROJECT APPROVAL. THIS IS THE CONVERSION OF A 98 UNIT HOTEL INTO 98 HOMES, PERFECTLY SITUATED AMONGST A DIVERSE RANGE OF EMPLOYERS AND LOCALLY SERVING BUSINESSES IN A COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND MUNICIPAL CODE. AS YOU'VE SEEN, IT REDEVELOPED AN EXISTING, UNDERUTILIZED AND DATED BUILDING TO DELIVER WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN AN EXPEDITED TIME FRAME. THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES. THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE IMPROVEMENTS AND AMENITIES BEING ADDED TO THE SITE TO ENSURE A SMOOTH TRANSITION FROM AN EXTENDED STAY [00:35:05] HOTEL TO A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. THE PROJECT INCLUDES ENHANCED LANDSCAPING, PICKLEBALL COURTS, A BICYCLE AND SURFBOARD MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE SHED, AND A DOG RUN. THE PROJECT SITE MAINTAINS 123 PARKING SPACES AND ALSO PROVIDES 24 LONG TERM BICYCLE PARKING SPACES. AS WAS NOTED IN THE PRESENTATION. ALLIANCE DEVELOPMENT COMPLETED A PUBLIC OUTREACH COMPONENT CONSISTENT WITH THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO SOLICIT PUBLIC INPUT REGARDING THE CONVERSION. WE RECEIVED WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS FOUR, BUT APPARENTLY SIX POSITIVE RESPONSES AND ONE INQUIRY. THE APPLICANT ALLIANCE DEVELOPMENT MET WITH WEST DEVELOPMENT TO SHARE THE PROJECT PLANS AND DETAILS ABOUT PARKING SITE ENHANCEMENT, MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT IN RESPONSE TO THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED. ALTHOUGH LOCATED IN AN AREA DESIGNATED AS PLANNED INDUSTRIAL, THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, THROUGH THE PROCESSING OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PERMIT TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT IS WELL INTEGRATED INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK LOCATION AND SERVES BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND ITS RESIDENTS. AS YOU JUST DISCUSSED IN DETAIL, THE FLATS AT TERRAMAR DELIVERS 15 AFFORDABLE UNITS AND IT MEETS THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE. AND WHILE IT DOES QUALIFY UNDER STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW, THE PROJECT PROPOSES NO ADDITIONAL UNITS BEYOND WHAT ARE ALREADY CONSTRUCTED, AND AS NOTED, WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED TO ALLOW FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING ENVELOPE AND THE PROVISION OF RECREATION SPACE AND A SETBACK. NO ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION BEYOND THE PROVISION OF THE AMENITIES IS PROPOSED. THIS RENDERING GIVES A BIRD'S EYE VIEW AND PERSPECTIVE OF THE PROJECT AND ITS LOCATION, ITS MATURE LANDSCAPING AND ADJACENCY TO MAJOR ROADWAYS, AND THE SEPARATION FROM EXISTING HOUSING. AS WAS EXPLAINED, THE PROJECT DOES QUALIFY FOR A CEQA CLASS 32 INFILL EXEMPTION AND IT MEETS THE CRITERIA LISTED ON THE SLIDE AND IT TRIGGERS NO EXCEPTIONS. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE STAFF EXPLAINED THAT VERY WELL, AND YOU DID HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. AS NOTED, THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENT FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND MEETS THOSE FINDINGS AS IS EXPLAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE CUP FINDINGS FOCUS ON HOW THE PROJECT FITS AND IS INTEGRAL TO ITS LOCATION AS AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. ITS CONVERSION FROM HOTEL TO HOMES WILL SUPPORT THE CONTINUED ECONOMIC VITALITY OF THE OVER 25 EMPLOYERS AND LOCALLY SERVING BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN APPROXIMATELY 6000FT² OF THE SITE. THE PARK IS ALSO CONDITIONED TO SOLICIT POTENTIAL RESIDENCES RESIDENTS FROM EXISTING BUSINESSES WHICH SUPPORT JOBS FOR A RANGE OF OCCUPATIONS THROUGH A WEBSITE AND INFORMATION KIOSK AND DIRECT MAIL. ADDITIONALLY, IT INCLUDES OVER 20,000FT² OF MATURE AND REHABILITATED LANDSCAPING TO SERVE AS A BUFFER TO ADJACENT NONRESIDENTIAL USES, BUT ALSO ENHANCING CONNECTIVITY TO GOODS AND SERVICES. IT IS DESIGNED IN A CONTEMPORARY SOUTHWESTERN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, AND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDINGS AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. THE SITE IS SERVED BY AND IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FRIENDLY. THE PROJECT PROVIDES A BIKE MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE SHED WITH E-BIKE CHARGING OUTLETS AND AS PART OF THE COASTAL RAIL TRAIL. THIS CORRIDOR CONTAINS BUFFERED CLASS II BIKE LANES, NONCONTIGUOUS SIDEWALKS, AND ADJACENT LANDSCAPING. THE PROJECT SITE IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN TWO MILES OF THE POINSETTIA TRAIN STATION. FINALLY, THE FLATS AT TERRAMAR CONVERTS AND UNDERUTILIZED AN OUTDATED HOTEL WELL PAST ITS PRIME AND NO LONGER AN ECONOMICALLY BENEFICIAL USE INTO MUCH NEEDED, ATTRACTIVE WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH CONVENIENT ACCESS TO JOBS AND GOODS AND SERVICES. ALLIANCE DEVELOPMENT WILL ENHANCE IT WILL MAINTAIN AND MANAGE THE BUILDING AND PROJECT SITE TO ENSURE THAT IT REMAINS AN ASSET TO THE CITY. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU ADOPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF THE CEQA RESOLUTION AND FINAL APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. THANK YOU. THE PROJECT TEAM IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS ALL FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER BURROWS. MS. MCPHERSON, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. AND I BELIEVE MR. STRONG MENTIONED THIS, BUT TO RESPOND TO ONE OF THE COMMENTS RECEIVED TO CONFIRM, [00:40:01] KITCHEN UNITS WILL BE INSTALLED IN EACH OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS? YES. ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER MERTZ. YEAH THANK YOU. SO I KNOW WHEN I WAS DRIVING THE SITE WHERE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS IS THE ONE PROBABLY CLOSEST TO AVENUE ENCINAS, THERE'S AN ENCLOSURE THERE. EXISTING STRUCTURE THERE THAT'S COMING OUT. WHAT IS? IT'S LIKE SOME TYPE OF CELL TOWER UTILITY? I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THAT WAS. WHAT'S COMING DOWN THERE? THAT IS EXCUSE ME ON THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'LL BE REMOVED THEN WHEN YOU DO THE PICKLEBALL? NO THAT WILL REMAIN. THAT'S, THAT'LL STAY ON THE SITE. OH OKAY IT DIDN'T TOUCH THE EXTERIOR. SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SEE BUILDINGS CHANGE, I FEEL LIKE ADD ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO THE OUTSIDE OR JUST CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE BIT. IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THEY'RE DOING IS PAINTING IT. WAS THERE JUST DETERMINED. I GUESS IT'S JUST YOU LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS AND JUST DECIDED JUST TO. JUST TO PAINT IT, I GUESS RIGHT? YES, THAT'S BASICALLY IT. WE'RE GOING TO REHABILITATE THE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE SITE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY REPAINT THE BUILDING. YEAH, SURE OKAY. AND THEN LASTLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, [LAUGHTER] ONE THING I DO LIKE ABOUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE PROJECTS ARE REALLY TIGHT ON PARKING. THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. WAS THERE EVER A THOUGHT OF DOING ANYTHING? CONVERTING ANY OF THAT EXTRA PARKING, OR YOU JUST DETERMINED? BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S ONE OF THE WAIVERS IS INSTEAD OF LIKE AROUND CLOSE TO 20,000FT² OF PUBLIC SPACES LIKE 15, WHICH IS FINE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU EVER LOOKED AT DOING ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE EXTRA PARKING PLACES OR HOW THAT DECISION KIND OF CAME ABOUT? WELL, WE HAVE 123, AS I RECALL, AND THAT'S 98 PLUS 25 SPACES. AND WITH RESPECT TO THE LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LARGE FRONTAGE ALONG AVENUE ENCINAS, WHICH WE MAY NOT COUNT AS PART OF OUR RECREATIONAL AREA. SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY SET BACK AREA SO THAT THAT WOULD PRECLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING. SO IF I UNDERSTAND, RIGHT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT ALTHOUGH WE CAN'T USE THAT AREA, IT'S KIND OF LIKE GRASSY AREA WHERE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO USE IT, THEY COULD, BUT YOU CAN'T COUNT IT IN YOUR SITE, BUT IT ACTUALLY COULD BE USED FOR THAT SO. THAT'S CORRECT. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS? I'M SORRY, IS THE BIKE STRUCTURE NEW OR IS IT EXISTING ON THE SITE? THE BIKE STRUCTURE WILL BE NEW. AND HOW BIG IS THE BIKE STRUCTURE? 280FT YES. 160 YES NO SO YOU ARE BUILDING SOMETHING ON THE SITE [LAUGHTER]. WE'RE BUILDING THAT ALONG WITH. I'M SORRY IF I DID FORGET TO SAY [LAUGHTER] THAT, BUT IN ADDITION, THERE WILL BE A TRASH ENCLOSURE CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY AROUND THE TRASH AREA. OKAY SORT OF A PERSONAL QUESTION. IS IT IS THIS SOMETHING YOU OR HAVE YOU OWNED THIS FOR A WHILE? IS THIS SOMETHING YOU PURCHASED? ARE YOU FROM THE AREA? WHAT'S THE. WHAT'S THE IMPETUS TO DO THIS? AND I'M APPLAUDING THE EFFORT BECAUSE I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THE MOST SUSTAINABLE BUILDING COULD BE A BUILDING THAT GETS REPURPOSED, THAT IT IS 100%. BUT I DON'T SEE IMPROVEMENTS LIKE SOLAR PANELS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR ROLE IN TRYING TO CONVERT THIS IS, OTHER THAN IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AS SUCCESSFUL AS HAD HOPED WHEN ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED. WE HAVE DONE THIS IN LA MESA ONCE BEFORE, AND WE'RE ALL LOCALS HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO INTRODUCED ME TO THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY, AND THEY WANTED TO DO THIS REPURPOSE. WE'RE IN ESCROW TO PURCHASE THE LEASEHOLD, WHICH IS THE HOTEL AND WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO PROVIDE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER. AND WE ARE APARTMENT BUILDERS AND MY PARTNER AND OUR PRINCIPAL, GREG LAMARCA, IS ALSO FROM CARLSBAD. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UPON THE PROPERTY. I'VE DONE OTHER PROJECTS IN CARLSBAD IN MY PAST, TOO. GREAT WE APPRECIATE THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [00:45:01] COMMISSIONER FOSTER. I JUST HAD A QUESTION. SO YOU JUST MENTIONED TO PURCHASE THE LEASEHOLD SO YOUR GROUP WILL NOT OWN THE FEE SIMPLE INTEREST IN THE REAL ESTATE? WE WILL BE PARTNERS IN THE PROPERTY IN THE REAL ESTATE. BUT WE ARE PURCHASING THE LEASEHOLD WHICH IS THE HOTEL. THERE'S A LONG TERM LEASE ON THE ON THE LAND FOR THE HOTEL. AND THEN WE'RE ENTERING INTO A JOINT VENTURE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS. OKAY SO THERE'S NO RISK AT THE END OF THE LAND LEASE EXPIRING THAT SOMETHING NEGATIVE WOULD TAKE PLACE TO THE STRUCTURE, THE USE OF THE PROPERTY? NO IN FACT, WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THE LEASEHOLD, WE'RE ENTERING INTO THIS JOINT VENTURE AND THAT LEASE WILL NO LONGER EXIST BECAUSE THE HOTEL WILL BE TAKEN OFF OF THE PROPERTY WITH OUR REHAB. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. OKAY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. STRONG DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES THANK YOU CHAIR MEENES. SO COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY SPOKE TO THE NEED FOR BUILDING PERMITS IN CERTAIN ELEMENTS. THE TRASH ENCLOSURE ITSELF WILL ALSO NEED A BUILDING PERMIT. WE REQUIRE IT TO BE ROOFED IN SPRINKLER. ANY STRUCTURE OVER 120FT² REQUIRES A BUILDING PERMIT. SO THE NEW SURFBOARD AND BIKE ENCLOSURE WILL ALSO REQUIRE IT. ANY EXTERIOR LIGHTS SERVICING THE PICKLEBALL COURT WOULD ALSO SIMILARLY NEED IT. AND ALSO THE CONVERSION OF THE USE TO RESIDENTIAL WOULD REQUIRE COMPLIANCE WITH CERTAIN BUILDING CODE STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE GREEN BUILDING CODE, WHICH REQUIRES SOLAR PHOTOVOLTAIC. SO THERE WILL BE SOLAR. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT HASN'T REALLY BEEN SHOWN ON THIS DRAWING, THESE DRAWINGS, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE C TILES OF THE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT EXISTS NOW. SO PROBABLY NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION THAN NOT CHANGING THE BUILDING. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THOSE THINGS ARE COMING SO. AND THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IS PREPARED BY A LICENSED ARCHITECT. AND SO THAT'S USUALLY PREPARED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWING PHASE. SO WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT BUT CORRECT. OKAY ANY OTHER FURTHER OKAY. COMMISSIONER FOSTER. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. IS THERE ANY PROPOSED SIGNAGE OR JUST THE CORNER SIGNAGE IN THAT ONE PHOTO SIMULATION? JIM MCMENAMIN AGAIN THE FLATS AT TERRAMAR WILL BE LOCATED IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS ON THE PROPERTY, ON THE BUILDING ON THE AREA FACING TO THE NORTH. I BELIEVE IT'S DEPICTED ON THE RENDERINGS THAT YOU HAVE THERE. AND IT'S ALL IN COMPLIANCE. IT WILL BE ALL IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY CODE. THAT'S IT MINUTES CLERK DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS? NO, CHAIR WE DO NOT. OKAY. OH, NO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SLIP IN BEFOREHAND I'M SORRY. STAFF. STAFF LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS RAISED? MR. STRONG, YOU GOOD? NO ADDITIONAL RESPONSES NECESSARY VERY GOOD THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? COMMISSIONER MERTZ? NOTHING? OKAY WITH THAT SEEING NONE I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BURROWS. I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE EXPLORING HOUSING OPTIONS THAT UTILIZE EXISTING STRUCTURES. LIKE WAS MENTIONED. AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT SEEMS AS MOSTLY POSITIVE ON THIS PROJECT. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I SUPPORT THE PROJECT. ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MERTZ YEAH, ALSO TO IS A GREAT PRESENTATION BY STAFF AND ALSO BY THE APPLICANT. YOU KNOW, THE PRESENTATION YOU PUT TOGETHER REALLY CONCISELY ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS IN A GOOD WAY AND A VERY CONCISE AND DETAILED MANNER. I REALLY LIKE THAT. I THINK SOME THINGS I LIKE ABOUT THE PROJECT, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IS THAT, [LAUGHTER] YOU KNOW, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, THE STATE SORT OF, I THINK, [00:50:04] UNFORTUNATELY CRAMS DOWN THE AREAS UNDER PARK THINGS. AND I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT THIS HAS 125 PARKING SPACES WITH 98 UNITS. I LIKE THAT. AND ALSO TO IT WAS INTERESTING COMMISSIONER FOSTER'S QUESTION, WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THE TRANSACTION, THE BACKGROUND BEHIND IT, JUST A CREATIVE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION IS ALLOWING US TO BRING A MUCH NEEDED HOUSING. VERY QUICKLY TO THE MARKET. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE HERE, IS THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BRING NEW PROJECTS ONLINE, AND BY USING AN EXISTING STRUCTURE AND REPURPOSING IT IS GOOD. THE OTHER THING I LIKE ABOUT IT TOO, IS ALSO TO ITS LOCATION. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, BOYS COME OUT THERE AND BOOM, YOU'RE RIGHT ON I-5 JUST LIKE THAT, WHICH IS GOOD. SO AS WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT ALSO LOOKS AT WAIVERS. I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH NOT DOING THE THREE BEDROOM PROBLEM AT ALL. THE SETBACK. AGAIN, I DON'T SEE ANY AT ALL ISSUES WITH THAT. THE COMMUNITY SPACE. I THINK THAT WAS INTERESTING ANSWER ABOUT ALL THAT GRASSLAND THAT CAN'T BE USED IN FRONT AND ALSO TO ITS PROXIMITY TO THE BEACH. DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT AND THEN AGAIN, THE HEIGHT IT'S HARD TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT ONCE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR SO LONG. SO I ACTUALLY ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORT THE PROJECT. I THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS GOOD. I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND SO I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PROJECT. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. I SUPPORT THE PROJECT [LAUGHTER]. MR. FOSTER. ALL RIGHT I'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ENTHUSIASTIC. I THINK THIS IS AN AWESOME [LAUGHTER] PROJECT. I YOU KNOW, WHEN I REVIEWED THE DOCUMENTATION ON THIS, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY COOL. I MEAN, IT'S A CREATIVE REAL ESTATE DEAL. REPURPOSING AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT'S NOT REALLY DOING, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE CITY, FOR THAT AREA. SO YEAH, I THINK THE WHOLE I THINK THE WHOLE PROJECT IS AWESOME. AND, YOU KNOW COMMISSIONER MERZ JUST THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT HE ALREADY SAID, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S BOIL IT DOWN, THE MOST SIMPLEST THING. IT'S AN EXISTING STRUCTURE. IT'S GETTING REPURPOSED FOR A BETTER USE. AND THAT USE IS WORKFORCE HOUSING, MORE HOUSING FOR THE CITY. I MEAN, IT'S A WIN WIN ALL AROUND. SO I THINK IT'S A HOME RUN. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. AND I HOPE YOU GUYS HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK. YEAH, I THINK ALSO WHEN I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMENTS MADE BY COMMISSIONERS UP TO THIS MOMENT IN TIME, PLUS THE STRUCTURE ITSELF, THE BUILDING IS, IS NOT THAT DATED. AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN REGARD TO THE REPAINTING OF IT AND SOME OF THE OTHER LANDSCAPING ADDITIONS THAT YOU'RE DOING TO THE PROJECT IS EXCELLENT. AND AGAIN, I WON'T REITERATE ALL THAT WAS SAID BY COMMISSIONER MERTZ. I THINK IT WAS WELL SAID. AND I THINK ONE OF THE KEY THINGS FOR ME THAT WAS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT WAS ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN CARLSBAD. AND TO ASSIST US IN MEETING OUR RHNA NUMBERS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL. SO I THINK AS A WIN WIN ALL THE WAY AROUND EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT. COMMISSIONER HUBINGER. I'LL KEEP IT SHORT. I SUPPORT IT REALLY WELL DONE. IT'S REALLY A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. I'VE DRIVEN BY IT SO MANY TIMES AND JUST COMMENTED TO MYSELF, AT LEAST ON HOW PRETTY THE BUILDING IS, AND IT'S NICE THAT YOU GOT TO. YOU GOT TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, HEALTHY PROJECT GOING IN THERE. SO I SUPPORT IT. REALLY WELL DONE PRESENTATION. ONE LAST QUESTION REAL QUICK. AND THAT MIGHT BE FOR THE APPLICANT ITSELF, IS THE TIMELINE IN REGARD TO WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE BRINGING THIS ON THE MARKETPLACE? WELL, WE. UPON APPROVAL, WE WILL BEGIN THE BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE PROCESS AND THE SITE IMPROVEMENT PLANS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEERING STAFF. SO WE'D LIKE TO GET STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, HOPEFULLY BY EARLY 26 AND BE APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE'D BE OPENING PROBABLY IN HOPEFULLY BY EARLY 27. THANK YOU MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. COMMISSIONERS ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER FOSTER? EXCUSE ME COMMISSIONER. PLEASE EXCELLENT. SECOND HUBINGER. ONE QUESTION I DO. I DID PASS UP ONE THING IS I DID NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO I CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. GO BACK TO THE MOTIONS. WE HAVE THE MOTIONS MADE. PLEASE VOTE. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. [00:55:04] UNANIMOUS VOTE. OKAY I'LL WAIT TILL THEY MOVE OUT OF THE ROOM REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2 [2. YAMANAKA RESIDENCE - CDP2024-0033 (DEV2024-0066)] OKAY WE'LL OPEN ITEM NUMBER 2 ON OUR AGENDA ITEM. FIRST, CAN I HAVE EX-PARTE FROM COMMISSIONERS IN REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 2? COMMISSIONER MERTZ. YES, I VISITED THE SITE. COMMISSIONER BURROWS, I DROVE BY THE SITE. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. COMMISSIONER FOSTER. I'VE DRIVEN BY THE SITE. COMMISSIONER HUBINGER. FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, AND I DROVE BY THE SITE AS WELL TODAY. MR. LARDY, WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM NUMBER 2? YES HERE GIVING STAFF PRESENTATION IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MIKE STRONG. THANK YOU, CITY PLANNER LARDY AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSION, MIKE STRONG ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. FILLING IN FOR SENIOR PLANNER IZAGUIRRE. THIS IS THE SECOND AND FINAL ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S THE YAMANAKA RESIDENCE A REQUEST FOR A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON A 0.2 ACRE LOT AT 5410 EL ARBOL DRIVE AND A ONE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE IN THE MELLO II SEGMENT OF THE COASTAL ZONE. THE SITE CONTAINS AN EXISTING 1725 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, WITH AN ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE AND POOL AND SPA. THE PROJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH AND WEST. DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS AN OPEN STATE SPACE RESERVE OWNED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, CONTAINING A WETLAND AND RIPARIAN HABITAT. THE COASTAL LOSSAN CORRIDOR IS BEYOND THAT FURTHER TO THE EAST. THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND THE ATTACHED GARAGE AND CONSTRUCT A NEW 3940 SF, 28.5FT TALL, SINGLE OR TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, INCLUDING A 640 SQUARE FOOT ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE. THE EXISTING POOL AND SPA WOULD REMAIN ON SITE. IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN A 100 FOOT WETLAND RIPARIAN BUFFER EXTENDS FROM THE EDGE OF THE FRESHWATER MARSH RIPARIAN HABITAT TO THE EDGE OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, WHILE A 50 FOOT RIPARIAN BUFFER EXTENDS FROM THE TOP OF THE SLOPE, LOCATED AT THE PROJECT'S REAR PROPERTY LINE TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS ORIENTED TOWARDS EL ARBOL DRIVE AND WILL INCLUDE THREE BEDROOMS, THREE AND ONE HALF BATHROOMS, A 400 SQUARE FOOT ATTACHED GYM AND AN APPROXIMATELY 225 SQUARE FOOT SECOND LEVEL TERRACE. THE RESIDENTS WILL BE 26FT AND SIX INCHES. ARCHITECTURALLY, THE NEW RESIDENCE REFLECTS A MODERN ISLAND DESIGN WITH AN USE OF BUILDING MATERIALS SUCH AS WHITE STUCCO, COMPOSITE LAP SIDING, A STONE VENEER ENTRY, A BLACK METAL GARAGE DOOR, TEMPERED GLASS GUARDRAILS, BLACK ALUMINUM FRAMED WINDOWS, AND A BLACK SHINGLE ROOF. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND FINDS THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO PREPARE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PURSUANT TO CEQA GUIDELINES SECTION 15303, WHICH IS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES. THE DRAFT NOTICE OF EXEMPTION, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE EXHIBIT TO THE STAFF REPORT, PROVIDES AND SUBSTANTIATES THE USE OF THAT EXEMPTION REQUEST. THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE RELEVANT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE R-4 GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE R-1 ZONE, AND THE MELLO II SEGMENT OF THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM. THE TWO STORY STRUCTURE WILL NOT OBSTRUCT VIEWS OF THE COASTLINE AS SEEN FROM PUBLIC LANDS OR THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, NOR OTHERWISE DAMAGED THE VISUAL BEAUTY OF THE COASTAL ZONE. NO AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITIES, SENSITIVE RESOURCES ON SITE, GEOTECHNICAL OR GEOLOGICAL INSTABILITY, FLOOD HAZARD OR COASTAL ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES EXIST ON THE SITE AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL MEET ALL THE REQUIRED WETLAND, RIPARIAN HABITAT BUFFERS AND FUEL MODIFICATION ZONES FOR THE REASONS SPECIFIED HERE AND IN THE STAFF REPORT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING THE SINGLE RESOLUTION, APPROVING THE SEQUENCE EXEMPTION DETERMINATION AND THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. STRONG. MINUTES CLERK, DO WE RECEIVE ANY LETTERS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? LETTERS? ANYTHING? NO WE DID NOT COMMUNICATION? THANK YOU. DOES THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. MR. STRONG, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. [01:00:04] HAS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION EVER. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE THE REPORT THAT WAS PRESENTED WAS BY A PERSON WHO IS HAS LIMITED QUALIFICATIONS AS A HISTORIAN, BUT YET WE KEEP SEEING REPORTS FROM THIS PARTICULAR PERSON TO MAKE THESE DETERMINATIONS THAT ALL OF THESE HOUSES CAN BE TORN DOWN. SO MY QUESTION IS, HAS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MADE A LIST OF APPROVED HISTORIANS TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THE CEQA HISTORIC REPORTS? AND HOW DO WE DETERMINE THOSE QUALIFICATIONS? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. THE RULES AND DUTIES AND OBLIGATIONS OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ARE CODIFIED IN 2.42 OF OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, AND UNDER THAT JURISDICTION, THE COMMISSION IS TO REVIEW ON REFERRAL ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS PREPARED SUCH AS A NEGATIVE DECLARATION, MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, OR AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. THERE ARE NO OTHER REQUISITE CONSULTATION STIPULATIONS IN THAT CODE. SO THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST OR THE COMPANION STUDIES THAT WERE PREPARED TO SUBSTANTIATE THE USE OF THE EXEMPTION WERE SUBMITTED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION DIRECTLY. THE COMMISSION ITSELF HAS NOT CREATED A QUALIFIED LIST OF HISTORIANS, NOR HAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. SO PART OF THE PREMISE OF CEQA AND UNDER THE PREMISE OF THE REVISED CEQA PROTOCOLS. THIS IS A TRANSPARENCY DOCUMENT. IT WAS POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF TONIGHT'S HEARING. THERE WERE PUBLIC NOTICES OF AVAILABILITY OF THAT DOCUMENT THROUGH THE CONSTANT CONTACT NOTIFICATION SYSTEM AS WELL. NOTICE TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. THERE WERE NO CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED TO REFUTE THE CONCLUSIONS OF THAT HISTORIAN'S FINDINGS. SO AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NOTHING TO CONTRADICT OR TO SUGGEST OTHERWISE THAT THIS IS NOT A LOSS OF A SIGNIFICANT RESOURCE. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. COMMISSIONERS OKAY I'LL OPEN THE ITEM FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY. MINUTES CLERK DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS? NO, CHAIR WE DO NOT. OKAY STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE, AND THANK YOU. YEAH ANDREW CARLOS, CARLOS ARCHITECTS I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO ADD. I CONCUR WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I'M HERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. PLEASE, PLEASE TELL US WHAT MODERN ISLAND DESIGN MEANS [LAUGHTER]. WHAT KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IS THAT? I THINK IT'S A KIND OF LIKE A HAWAIIAN PLANTATION STYLE, BUT MORE OF A MODERN RENDITION OF THAT. SO BROAD EAVES, HIP ROOFS, NATURAL STONE, THINGS LIKE THAT. WELL, WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST CALL IT AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT QUANTIFIABLE? I THINK I JUST QUANTIFIED IT. WOULDN'T YOU AGREE? POSSIBLY. OKAY [LAUGHTER]. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE A BETTER VERNACULAR TO ATTACH? YOU COULD JUST SAY MODERN [LAUGHTER]. OH WELL, I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE MORE SPECIFIC WHEN LAUREN ASKED ME, I JUST TRIED TO BE SPECIFIC BECAUSE. WE DON'T LIVE ON AN [LAUGHTER] ISLAND. RIGHT? SO [LAUGHTER]. RIGHT, RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YEAH, INTERPRETATIONS OF THAT AREN'T QUANTIFIABLE AS AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, IT'S VERY HARD. WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE OUR HOUSING, OBVIOUSLY. AND ONE OF THE EFFORTS THAT THE HOUSING ELEMENT WORKED VERY HARD TO TRY AND DO WAS QUANTIFY PARTICULAR ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH OUR COMMUNITY, THAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE. SO THERE'S SEVEN OF THEM IN THE VILLAGE IN BARRIO THAT WE CREATED OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR BASED ON TRUE QUANTIFIABLE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS. SO THAT'S WHY THIS PARTICULAR YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE SOMETHING LIKE A TITLE LIKE THAT, [01:05:06] I WORRY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS AND HOW THAT COMPLIES WITH OUR COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S REALLY THE REASON I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS TO UNDERSTAND IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR NOT? THAT'S REALLY AND I DON'T KNOW IF ISLAND DESIGN IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR NOT, BUT I'M WILLING TO. YEAH, I THINK FROM A MASSING SCALE STANDPOINT, HIP ROOFS VARIED MATERIALS. I THINK IT IS COMPATIBLE. THERE'S A LOT OF WOOD SIDING IN THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS A COMPOSITE SIDING, OBVIOUSLY IT'S MORE FIRE RESISTANT AND, YOU KNOW MORE DURABLE. IT'S BASICALLY PAINTED STUCCO OR, YOU KNOW, STUCCO. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL VERY COMPATIBLE. YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO REALLY SCALE THINGS BACK. SO WE HAD MORE OF A HUMAN SCALE, TRY TO STEP THINGS BACK SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, SINGLE PLANE. I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS MAKE IT MORE CONDUCIVE. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS ISN'T IN THE BARRIO OR THE VILLAGE. SO THE PRESCRIPTIVE DESIGN VERNACULAR WOULDN'T APPLY. IT'S I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THAT THAT WAS REALLY JUST THE CALL OF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE CALL CONTINUOUSLY IS WE'RE LOSING OUR CHARACTER. AND TERRAMAR HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MORE VOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. UNDERSTOOD YEAH I MEAN, AND LIKE I SAID, FOR THOSE REASONS, THE SCALE OF THE MASSING, THE ARTICULATION, THE USE OF VARIED MATERIALS VARIED ROOFLINES. I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS ACTUALLY IMPROVE IT. FROM WHAT WAS THERE EXISTING, IF YOU DROVE BY, WHAT WAS THERE NOW. IT'S PRETTY ONE DIMENSIONAL WHAT'S THERE NOW. WE TRY TO SET THIS GARAGE BACK SO IT'S NOT FRONT AND CENTER. WE KIND OF CREATED THIS TRELLIS ELEMENT WITH YOU KNOW, CASCADING PLANTS THAT WOULD GROW OVER THAT TO INCORPORATE SOME ORGANIC, YOU KNOW, MATERIALS TO KIND OF SOFTEN UP AND OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY PLAIN GARAGE DOOR. SO I THINK IN THAT REGARD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS TO IMPROVE WHAT WAS WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE I THINK I'M AFTER THE SAME THING. YEAH, SURE. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. I'LL OPEN TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT THIS TIME. AND CLERK, YOU SAID THERE WERE NO? THAT'S CORRECT NO THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. COMMISSIONERS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER FOSTER. MR. STRONG WOULD IT EVER MAKE SENSE, OR DO YOU GUYS EVER CONSIDER SHOWING, LIKE, KIND OF BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS? LIKE, I KNOW IT SOUNDS KIND OF SILLY, BUT LIKE TO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE RIGHT NOW. OR IS THAT NOT REQUIRED OR JUST PART OF THE PROCESS OR ANYTHING? IT'S NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED AS PART OF STAFF'S PRESENTATION, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN PREPARE THAT INFORMATION FOR FUTURE MEETINGS. YEAH, I THINK IT ADDS A LITTLE VALUE AS FAR AS BECAUSE THERE'S A CONVERSATION OF LIKE WOOD SIDING AND STUFF, AND WE'VE DRIVEN BY IT, BUT HOW RECENTLY DID WE DRIVE BY IT LIKE WHAT'S OUR MEMORY. IT I THINK IT ADDS A LITTLE VALUE JUST TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY. YES DURING THE COURSE OF SOME CONVERSATIONS, THERE WAS A PROJECT, THE RYAN REMODEL PROJECT ON OCEAN STREET THAT WAS CONSIDERED PROBABLY LIKE A TWO MONTHS AGO. WE WENT THROUGH A STREET VIEW AND SHOWED THE EXISTING RESIDENTS AS IT EXISTS TODAY, UNDER THE CONTEXT OF THE ELEMENTS SURROUNDING THE HEIGHT MEASUREMENTS OF THE HOMES THAT ARE WERE ADJACENT. SO WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION IF IT'S REQUESTED. BUT IT PROBABLY WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO PROVIDE BACKUP SLIDES OF THE EXISTING STREET VIEW. SO IF IT WAS REQUESTED, WE COULD PULL THAT UP RELATIVELY QUICKLY. YEAH OTHER THAN THAT, THE PRESENTATION IS EXCELLENT THANKS DISCUSSION AMONGST OURSELVES. COMMISSIONER BURROWS. I APPRECIATE THE DESIGN ON THE PROJECT AND AS WELL AS THE IMPROVEMENTS, AND IT SEEMS TO FIT THE TWO PRONGED TEST FOR THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT SO I SUPPORT THE PROJECT. COMMISSIONER MERTZ, [01:10:10] I THINK IT'S A NICE IMPROVEMENT. SO, I MEAN, TERRAMAR HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AT LEAST. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK WITH THE CONVERSATION OF LIKE, THIS DESIGN CONFORMING WITH OTHER DESIGNS IN TERRAMAR, THAT'S A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION TO HAVE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH DIFFERENT THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT DESIGNS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NOT LIKE AN HOA. SO BUT OVERALL, I SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD HOUSE. COMMISSIONER HUBINGER. NO COMMENT I DID NOTICE MYSELF THAT THERE ARE OTHER HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN RECONSTRUCTED OR REHABBED OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN THAT'S BEEN DECIDED UPON ON THIS PROJECT IS EXCELLENT AS WELL. SO I DO SUPPORT IT AS WELL. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER BURROWS. MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER BURROWS. OKAY MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BURROWS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MERTZ. MAY I HAVE A VOTE? UNANIMOUS 6-0 IN REGARD TO THIS PROJECT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU SO MUCH APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN. THANKS, MIKE [COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS] COMMISSIONERS IN REGARD TO THE ITEM THAT WAS AND IT WAS, I GUESS IT WAS EMAILED TO US BY OUR MINUTES CLERK THIS MORNING IN REGARD TO THE CITY CLERK WANTING TO ASK IF COMMISSIONERS HAD INTEREST IN REGARD TO THE TWO ITEMS THAT SHE MADE REFERENCE TO, AND THAT WAS IN REGARD TO THE ITEM. AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY NOTICED ON THE AGENDAS OVER THE LAST COUPLE, 2 OR 3 MONTHS WHERE IT SAYS COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTARY AND REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATIONS OF MATTERS. AND THEN THE ITEM, THE SECOND ONE WAS THE BROWN ACT AND PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC RECORDS ACT TRAINING. SO WITH THAT THANK YOU MINUTES CLERK, FOR PROVIDING THAT LETTER TO US AND THE CITY CLERK'S I GUESS AVAILABILITY IN PROVIDING A PRESENTATION TO US. SO, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT ALL IN REGARD TO POSSIBLY COMING IN AND HAVING US AGENDIZE THIS ITEM TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT THOSE TWO ITEMS, OR MAYBE ONE OF TWO OR NONE AT ALL? COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT ITEMS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AGAIN, I'M SORRY. YEAH, IT WAS ACTUALLY IT WAS ACTUALLY YESTERDAY, AUGUST 19TH ON TUESDAY THE MINUTES CLERK DID SEND US THE EMAIL. AND THAT EMAIL MADE REFERENCE TO THOSE TWO ITEMS IN THAT THE CITY CLERK WAS INTERESTED IN MAKING HERSELF AVAILABLE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO US IN THAT REGARD. WHAT ARE THE THE TWO ITEMS I'VE JUST READ, WHICH WAS NUMBER 1 COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTARY AND REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS. IT'S ON THE AGENDA AND I CAN READ IT TO YOU. BASICALLY, IT JUST SAYS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA HAS A SECTION NAMED COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTARY AND REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS, AND A FEW QUICK REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT TO REMEMBER, REQUESTS FOR FUTURE ITEMS CANNOT BE DISCUSSED AS THEY ARE NOT AGENDIZE. REQUEST MUST BE MUST HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION FOR STAFF ACTION. IF REQUEST INVOLVES A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT BEFORE THE VOTE, YOU MUST INFORM THE COMMISSION THAT YOU WILL HAVE A CHECK IN WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REQUEST CAN BE ACCOMMODATED, AND WHEN REFERRING TO OUR TIMELINE, ALWAYS STATE THAT THE ITEM WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE FORWARD AT A FUTURE MEETING, NOT A DATE SPECIFIC. SO THAT WAS THAT ITEM. SHE COULD SPEAK TO US ON THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE HER DO SO, OR IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO, WE CAN DO THAT. SECOND ITEM WAS THE BROWN ACT, AND I KNOW AT TIMES SHE'S COME TO US IN THE PAST AND CLARIFIED THE BROWN ACT AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR DOING SO. SO SHE CAN PROVIDE A REFRESHER TRAINING ON THAT, PROBABLY 5 MINUTES OR 10 MINUTES IF WE CHOOSE TO HAVE HER COME IN. SO ANY THOUGHTS? COMMISSIONER HUBINGER. WE I REMEMBER GOING THROUGH IT ONLINE. SO I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR THIS PERSONALLY. COMMISSIONER FOSTER, ANY THOUGHTS? I SECOND THAT AS WELL. [01:15:01] WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH ONLINE TRAINING ON THIS. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, ANY THOUGHTS? NOT YET [LAUGHTER]. COMMISSIONER BURROWS. I WOULD PRIORITIZE THE TRAINING THAT MR. LARDY MENTIONED BEFORE, THE ONGOING SECRET TRAINING AND SOME OTHER ITEMS OVER THESE PIECES BECAUSE, LIKE COMMISSIONER HUBINGER MENTIONED, WE DID THE ONLINE TRAINING A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. EXCELLENT, COMMISSIONER MERTZ. YEAH, I REALLY HAVE A FEELING ON THAT EITHER WAY. OKAY SO. OH, NOW YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING YES. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY [LAUGHTER]. SORRY, IT TAKES A MINUTE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I THINK ALL TRAININGS ARE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE LAWS CHANGE AND THESE THINGS ARE EVOLVING ALL THE TIME. AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT AUDIENCE MEMBERS ALL THE TIME AS WELL. SO TO BE A MORE RESILIENT BOARD, I THINK THERE'S AN IMPORTANCE TO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR ROLES ARE. BUT NOT ONLY THAT, HOW TO OBVIOUSLY HELP THE PARTICIPANTS BECAUSE OF THIS ROLE. SO I DO FEEL THAT A TRAINING IS ALWAYS TO ME IS ALWAYS WELCOME. I THINK THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE TIME FOR IT, AND DOES IT CREATE A SEPARATE MEETING, OR WOULD IT BE INCORPORATED IN ONE OF OUR REGULAR STAFF MEETINGS? MR. LARDY? I THINK THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE COMMISSION ITSELF. WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND IS IN OUR WORK PROGRAM IS QUARTERLY TRAININGS. THOSE ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY PROGRAMED, BUT WE DID HAVE OUR FIRST ONE OF THOSE AT OUR LAST MEETING. WE HAVE TENTATIVELY PENCILED IN A DIVE INTO VMT VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER JASON GELDERT ON HAVING HIM, AS WELL AS OUR CONSULTANT, PRESENT THAT IN THE NOVEMBER TIME PERIOD. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC TRAININGS BEYOND THAT. SO WE CAN ALWAYS CONTINUE WITH VMT IN NOVEMBER, SORT OF THE QUARTER THAT'S ABOUT TO START. AND THEN LOOK AT PENCILING THIS IN AND IN A FUTURE TRAINING SOMETIME IN 2026. YEAH YOU KNOW TO HAVE QUARTERLY TRAININGS OF SOME SORT. SO IF THAT SAVES THE PLANNERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IT. CERTAINLY AND IF WE'RE EXPECTING A NEW MEMBER UPCOMING IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. I THINK HAVING THIS INFORMATION PRESENTED WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL BECAUSE AS MUCH AS ONLINE TRAINING IS HELPFUL [LAUGHTER] THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. AND I THINK THAT THERE IS VALUE IN HAVING IN-PERSON TRAINING SO THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I THINK THAT THEY'RE WELL TAKEN. I ALSO FEEL THAT GIVEN THE COMMENT THAT YOU MADE MR. LARDY, IN REGARD TO THE PLANNING TRAINING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE NEAR FUTURE MEETINGS REGARDING CEQA AND REGARDING SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS. I SEE NO REASON WHATSOEVER AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE FIVE MINUTES OF THE CLERK COMING IN AND MAKING A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON TWO OF THESE ITEMS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR A REFRESHER. I THINK COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY COMMENT IN REGARD TO ANOTHER NEW MEMBER COMING ON TO THE COMMISSION WITHIN THE NEXT PROBABLY 30 DAYS OR MORE. AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HERE THIS EVENING MIGHT BE AT LEAST ON THE BROWN ACT PORTION, MAYBE NOT THE OTHER, BUT I THINK BOTH OF THEM WOULD BE WELL TAKEN. SO I WOULD SUPPORT HAVING YOU COME BACK WITH HAVING IT BE AGENDIZE, AND THAT WOULD BE MY POSITION IN THAT REGARD. OKAY WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT, DO WE? YOU DO NOT. OKAY EXCELLENT. SO YOU WILL BRING IT BACK? YES WE WILL. ALL RIGHT ON HISTORICAL NOTHING? ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER FOSTER. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW THIS IS A NON-AGENDA ITEM SO THAT WE CAN'T REALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION. SO I'M JUST GOING TO TRY TO POSE THIS AS ONE QUESTION TO [LAUGHTER] PLANNER LARDY. SO SPECIFICALLY THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN TODAY AND AS WE RECEIVED THE EMAIL, HAD THAT QUESTION OF ADU AND GARAGES AND I JUST I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT THE CODE SAYS IN ADU AND GARAGES. AND IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE, ARE YOU ABLE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON AT THAT AT ALL, LIKE JUST THAT QUESTION WITHOUT CONVERSATION OR, I DON'T KNOW, THE PROCEDURE. I AM NOT BECAUSE IT IS NOT A SHORT ANSWER. WHAT THE COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO DO IS VOTE TO REQUEST ADUS OR THE SPECIFICALLY BE ADDED TO AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT I WILL SAY IS WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE EMAIL AND BE PROVIDING THEM WITH AN UPDATE ON OUR INTERPRETATION OF THE RULES AS WELL AS THE [01:20:07] STATUS OF THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING PERMIT. OKAY THAT'S SUFFICIENT. I ALSO THINK IT'S SUFFICIENT AS WELL. I THINK JUST GETTING BACK TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT MADE THE COMMENT THIS EVENING WOULD BE MORE THAN ADEQUATE. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, MR. LARDY. SURE JUST A COUPLE QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS. [STAFF COMMENTS] FIRST, I DO WANT TO THANK SENIOR PLANNER IZAGUIRRE. WHILE MIKE AND I WERE THE ONES DOING THE PRESENTATION, ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS, SHE DID DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING TO GET US TO THIS POINT. THE COASTAL COMMISSION APPROVED LAST FRIDAY THE AURA CIRCLE OPEN SPACE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS THE HOUSING ELEMENT REZONE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS. THESE WERE CONSIDERED [LAUGHTER] BY THIS BODY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL JANUARY. THE AURA CIRCLE ITEM WAS APPROVED WITH NO MODIFICATIONS, SO THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE SHORTLY. THE HOUSING ELEMENT ITEM DID HAVE SOME MODIFICATIONS, SO THAT WILL BE RETURNING TO CITY COUNCIL SOMETIME THIS FALL. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON OUR SCHEDULING FOR THAT. THE PROJECT THAT YOU ACTED ON EARLIER TODAY WILL ALSO BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL SOMETIME THIS FALL. WE'RE TENTATIVELY LOOKING AT OCTOBER FOR THAT MEETING. WITH THAT, WE ARE LOOKING TO CANCEL THE MEETING THAT IS LABOR DAY WEEK, BUT WE WILL BE HAVING SEVERAL AGENDA ITEMS ON SEPTEMBER 17TH FOR PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. AND ONE OTHER QUESTION IN REGARD TO THE VACANT SEAT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. WHEN IS THE GOING THE CITY COUNCIL GOING TO BE HEARING THAT ITEM AND MAKING A DECISION? THE APPLICATION PERIOD CLOSED. AND SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT POSITION WILL BE APPOINTED WHEN CITY COUNCIL RETURNS FROM RECESS. FIRST MEETING, I THINK SEPTEMBER 9TH. SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE CLERK AND IF THE COMMISSIONER SELECTED IS ABLE TO ATTEND AS WELL AS ABLE TO COMPLETE THE REQUIREMENTS, THEY COULD BE HERE AS EARLY AS SEPTEMBER 17TH. THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY. NOTHING FOR ME THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THAT, I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.