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>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 17, 2025 MEETING IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION.
WITH THE MINUTES CLERK, PLEASE TAKE ROLE.
>> LET THE RECORD SHOW COMMISSIONER MERZ IS ABSENT.
>> PRESENT. SIX COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT, AND ONE COMMISSIONER IS ABSENT.
>> COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR US THIS EVENING?
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD.
APPRECIATE. NEXT ITEM IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 20, 2025 MEETING.
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ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 20 COMMISSION MEETING? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.COMMISSIONER BURROWS MAKES THE MOTION.
>> COMMISSIONER HUBINGER MAKES THE SECOND.
>> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.
>> THE MACHINE IS ACTUALLY HAVING TROUBLE TONIGHT, SO I'LL DO A VOTE BY HAND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL THOSE ABSTAINING? THANK YOU.
>> MOTION CARRIES WITH FIVE APPROVED AND ONE ABSTAIN. THANK YOU.
THE FOLLOWING PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING PROCEDURES ARE IN EFFECT THIS EVENING.
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WE'LL REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM FOR ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, INCLUDING PUBLIC HEARINGS.REQUEST FORMS MUST BE TURNED IN TO THE MINUTES CLERK PRIOR TO THE ITEM COMMENCING.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE GIVEN 3 MINUTES UNLESS THAT TIME IS REDUCED BY THE CHAIRPERSON.
SPEAKERS MAY NOT BE GIVEN THEIR TIME TO ANY OTHER SPEAKER.
GROUP TIME WILL BE PERMITTED FOR ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE REPRESENTATIVE MUST IDENTIFY THE GROUP AND AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS OF THE GROUP MUST BE PRESENT DURING THE MEETING FOR THE PRESENTATION TO BE MADE.
THOSE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE GROUP HAVE 10 MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS CHANGED BY THE CHAIRPERSON.
THE MINUTES CLERK WILL CALL THE NAMES OF THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER THEY REQUEST TO SPEAK ARE RECEIVED.
THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE AGENDA.
PLANNING COMMISSION WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED UP TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
ALL OTHER NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. MINUTES CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS?
MR. LINKY, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM?
PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO 3 MINUTES.
TO HELP SPEAKERS KEEP WITHIN THE LOT OF TIME, OUR MINUTES CLERK WILL START THE TIMER.
THE GREEN LIGHT MEANS SPEAK, THE YELLOW MEANS THAT YOU HAVE 1 MINUTE REMAINING, AND THE RED MEANS YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
SINCE ITEMS BROUGHT UP UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, THE COMMISSION IS BY LAW BY TAKING ANY ACTION ON THESE ITEMS. BEFORE YOU BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE CLEARLY AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE WAIT FOR THAT ITEM TO BE OPENED FOR TESTIMONY. MR. LINKY.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEVE LINKY FROM CARLSBAD.
I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE EQUITABLE LAND USE ALLIANCE.
I'M ALSO A FORMER CARLSBAD TRAFFIC COMMISSIONER AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT UPDATE COMMITTEE MEMBER.
I HADN'T PLANNED TO SPEAK AT THE GENERAL THING, BUT I'M HERE ANYWAY FOR THE NEXT ITEM, SO I THOUGHT I WOULD DO A LITTLE PREFACE AND HEARD OF GENERAL TALK.
MANY STATE LAWS HAVE TAKEN AWAY LOCAL CONTROL OVER LAND USE DECISIONS.
MY ORGANIZATION, ELUA IS SUPPORTING A STATE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO RESTORE LOCAL CONTROL.
WE ALSO INITIATED EFFORTS TO MAKE CEQA DECISIONS SUBJECT TO PUBLIC REVIEW FROM THIS COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL RATHER THAN BY THE CITY PLANNER,
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AND WE WORKED TO STRENGTHEN THE PUBLIC OUTREACH REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGER PROJECTS.WE UNDERSTAND THAT DEVELOPERS' GOALS ARE TO BUILD NICE PROJECTS AND TO MAXIMIZE THEIR PROFITS.
ELUA IS NOT OPPOSED TO MANY OF THESE PROJECTS, BUT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT MAXIMUM MITIGATION OF THEIR IMPACTS IS ACHIEVED.
I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT YOUR ROLE AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
I KNOW WHEN I WAS ON THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION, I FELT LIKE MY ROLE WAS TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
THE DEVELOPERS' PLANS AREN'T ALWAYS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY UNDER THESE NEW STATE LAWS THAT FORCE US TO APPROVE PROJECTS THAT AREN'T FULLY FUNDED FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AT HIGHER DENSITIES THAN WE'RE USED TO, THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE ALLOWED.
ALSO, STAFF DOESN'T ALWAYS GET THINGS PERFECTLY RIGHT.
WE HAVE VERY GOOD STAFF AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS GET EVERYTHING RIGHT.
WHEN YOU GET TOPICS IN FRONT OF YOU, WHAT I'M ASKING, WHAT OUR ORGANIZATION IS ASKING FOR YOU, IS TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, CONSIDER SOME COMMON SENSE, AND MAKE A DECISION, AND DON'T ALWAYS JUST GO WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ADD TO THE STAFF REPORT, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, WHATEVER, PLEASE CONSIDER DOING THAT. DON'T JUST ALWAYS GO.
I'VE WATCHED COMMISSION MEETINGS NOW FOR PROBABLY SIX YEARS AND 99% OF THE TIME SOME WILL SAY, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, BUT IN THE END, IT'S JUST RUBBER STAMPING OR WHATEVER, STAFF HAS NEGOTIATED WITH A DEVELOPER.
THEY DON'T ALWAYS GET EVERYTHING RIGHT.
PLEASE LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU.
IF EVERYONE WILL DIRECT THEIR ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN.
I WILL REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE COMMISSION WILL FOLLOW FOR THE EVENING'S PUBLIC HEARING.
PUBLIC HEARING REOPEN STAFF WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANTS WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AND RESPOND TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
THEY WILL HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE OPENED.
A TIME LIMIT OF 3 MINUTES IS ALLOTTED TO EACH SPEAKER.
AFTER ALL THOSE WANTING TO SPEAK HAVE DONE SO, THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL BE CLOSED.
THE APPLICANT AND STAFF WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THOSE ISSUES OR QUESTIONS.
THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE ITEM AND THEN VOTE ON IT.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED.
CERTAIN PLANNING COMMISSION DECISIONS ARE FINAL, BUT MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
YOU CAN FIND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE BACK OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
[1. BLVD BEACH COMMERCIAL- SDP 2024-0020/CUP 2024-0010/CDP 2024-0032]
FIRST, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY EX PARTE CONVERSATIONS? COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD.>> NO CONVERSATIONS, BUT I DROVE BY THE SITE.
>> I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.
>> NO. WHAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS HIS FIRST NAME, NICK.
I KNEW I COULDN'T SAY NICK. MR. FOSTER.
>> I CAN GO BY NICK, WE'RE FRIENDS. I'VE DRIVEN BY SITE MANY, MANY TIMES.
>> I ALSO DROVE BY THE SITE AS WELL.
MR. STRONG, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM?
>> YES. THANK YOU, CHAIR MEENES.
THE FIRST OF THE FIVE AGENDA ITEMS ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA IS THE BOULEVARD BEACH COMMERCIAL, A NEW RESTAURANT RETAIL AND EVENT AND ASSEMBLY SPACE.
HERE TO PRESENT THIS ITEM IS SENIOR PLANNER KYLE VAN LEEUWEN.
>> THANK YOU, MIKE. THE FIRST PROJECT BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT IS THE BEACH BOULEVARD COMMERCIAL PROJECT, WHICH PROPOSES A THREE STORY COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE WITH RETAIL, RESTAURANT, AND EVENT CENTER USES.
THE PROJECT SITE IS JUST OVER ONE HALF ACRE IN SIZE AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HOSPITALITY DISTRICT OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN, JUST SOUTH OF MCGEE PARK.
THE PROJECT REQUIRES THE FOLLOWING APPROVALS, A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS REQUIRED FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIRED TO ALLOW THE EVENT CENTER USE, AND A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ENTIRE SITE WITH RETENTION OF EXISTING STREET TREES ALONG CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND PLANTING OF NEW STREET TREES WITHIN THE PARKWAY ALONG BEACH AVENUE.
THE GROUND LEVEL OF THIS PROJECT INCLUDES THREE TENANT SPACES FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES.
A PEDESTRIAN PLAZA AND SEATING AREAS ARE INCLUDED AS WELL AS 10 SURFACE PARKING SPACES.
THE SECOND LEVEL CONTAIN APPROXIMATELY 5,100 SQUARE FEET OF INTERIOR EVENT SPACE, 02,690 SQUARE FOOT OUTDOOR TERRACE SPACE WITH A KITCHEN, OFFICE STORAGE, AND RESTROOM TO SUPPORT THE EVENT SPACE.
THE THIRD LEVEL OF THE PROJECT PROVIDES APPROXIMATELY 3,000 SQUARE FEET OF
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OUTDOOR SEATING AND BAR SERVICE AREA WITH A BRIDAL SUITE THAT WOULD BE USED IN CONNECTION TO THE EVENT SPACE.ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS ARE ALSO PROVIDED ON THIS THIRD LEVEL.
THE EVENT SPACE USE IS NOT SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED OR CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED USE WITHIN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN.
BUT USES SIMILAR TO THOSE ALLOWED OR CONDITIONALLY ALLOWED CAN BE APPROVED IF THE USE IS WITHIN THE VISION AND INTENT OF THE HOSPITALITY DISTRICT.
SPECIFICALLY, THOSE USES ARE VISITOR SERVING AND HOSPITALITY USES SERVING VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE.
THE EVENT CENTER USE IS SIMILAR TO A CINEMA OR THEATER USE, WHICH REQUIRES THE APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITHIN THE HOSPITALITY DISTRICT.
THEREFORE, THE EVENT CENTER USE CAN BE APPROVED WITH THE REQUIRED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FINDINGS MADE AND WITH APPLICABLE AND APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
FOR THIS USE, THE CONDITIONS INCLUDE THOSE PERTAINING TO EVENT SIZE, HOURS, NOISE, AND PARKING.
THE CONDITIONS PROPOSED BY STAFF IN THIS IN THE RECOMMENDED RESOLUTION WOULD LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE EVENTS TO 250 GUESTS, WOULD REQUIRE THE EVENT CENTER TO FOLLOW THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, AND REQUIRE EVENTS TO CONCLUDE AT MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT AND 11:00 P.M ON WEEKENDS.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE STATED NOISE LIMITS AND REQUIRED REPORTING ON NOISE ONCE THE USE IS OPERATIONAL.
PARKING FOR THE EVENT CENTER HAS BEEN A POINT OF FOCUS ON THE PROJECT.
THE CITY IS LIMITED BY ASSEMBLY BILL 2097, WHICH STATES THAT THE CITY SHALL NOT IMPOSE OR ENFORCE ANY MINIMUM AUTOMOBILE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IF THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN ONE HALF MILE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT, SUCH AS THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE STATION.
THERE IS AN EXCEPTION IN THE BILL WHICH STATES THAT AN EVENT CENTER SPECIFICALLY SHALL PROVIDE PARKING AS REQUIRED BY LOCAL ORDINANCE FOR EMPLOYEES AND OTHER WORKERS.
HOWEVER, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A PARKING REQUIREMENT THAT IS SPECIFIC FOR EVENT CENTERS, NOR DOES THE CITY HAVE A LOCAL REQUIREMENT OR ORDINANCE THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WOULD BE FOR EMPLOYEES AND WORKERS.
CITY STAFF CAN TAKE TWO APPROACHES TO ADDRESSING PARKING FOR THE USE.
OPTION 1 WOULD BE TO APPLY THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PARKING RATE PROVIDED BY THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS ONE SPACE PER EACH FIVE SEATS OR ONE SPACE PER 120 SQUARE FEET OF ASSEMBLY AREA, WHICHEVER IS GREATER.
THIS WOULD CALCULATE TO 50 PARKING SPACES, EITHER BY SQUARE FOOTAGE OR BY SEATED GUEST.
THEN THE CITY WOULD TRY TO DETERMINE HOW MANY OF THOSE 50 SPACES WHEN ATTENDED FOR EMPLOYEES OR WORKERS AT THE USE, POSSIBLY 10-15 SPACES, TO GET IN IN LINE WITH AB 2097.
OR OPTION 2 WOULD BE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN IN CONNECTION TO MAKING THE REQUIRED FINDINGS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO UTILIZE OFFSITE PARKING LOTS AT TIMES THEY ARE NOT UTILIZED FOR THE PRIMARY USE.
THIS IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH ONE OF THE STATED GOALS WITHIN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN TO ENCOURAGE SHARED AND LEASED PARKING ARRANGEMENTS AMONG MULTIPLE USERS OF PRIVATE OR NON CITY OWNED LOTS.
TO MAXIMIZE THE EFFICIENT USE OF THE EXISTING STREET PARKING, THE PROPOSED PARKING PLAN WOULD GIVE THE EVENT CENTER USE ACCESS TO UP TO 99 PARKING SPACES WHICH COULD HAVE THEIR CAPACITIES INCREASED WITH THE USE OF ALLEY PARKING.
THIS TABLE SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF PARKING PROPOSED TO BE UTILIZED, 39 SPACES ON THE ADJACENT CHURCH PARKING LOT AND 50 SPACES AT 2333 STATE STREET, WHICH IS LESS THAN A HALF MILE AWAY.
IN EVALUATION OF CEQA REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROJECT, STAFF HAS FOUND THAT SECTION 15183 OF THE CEQA GUIDELINES IS APPLICABLE TO THE PROJECT.
THIS SECTION STATES THAT PROJECTS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN FOR WHICH AN EIR HAS BEEN CERTIFIED, SHALL NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, EXCEPT AS MIGHT BE NECESSARY TO EXAMINE WHETHER THERE ARE PROJECT SPECIFIC SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS WHICH ARE PECULIAR TO THE PROJECT OR ITS SITE.
THIS EVALUATION INCLUDED THE REVIEW OF STUDIES PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, WHICH CONFIRMED THAT NO NEW OR INCREASED SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ARE IDENTIFIED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT.
OVERALL, STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN.
SPECIFICALLY, THE GOAL OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN THAT STATES THE VILLAGE SHALL BE A COMMUNITY FOCAL POINT WITH HIGH QUALITY SHOPPING, DINING, ENTERTAINMENT, WORKING AND LIVING ENVIRONMENTS.
THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, STATE LAWS, AS WELL AS CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
IT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, AS DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
STAFF IS HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
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>> THANK YOU, KYLE. APPRECIATE. WE HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE PUBLIC.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT.
COMMISSIONERS IS THERE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
>> THANK YOU FOR FORWARDING THE HISTORIC REPORT.
WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, IS THERE ANY MENTION IN THE HISTORIC REPORT ABOUT ITS PROXIMITY TO ST. MICHAEL'S CHURCH AND ITS ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY ON TOP OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALSO BEING DEMOLISHED?
>> I BELIEVE THE HISTORIC REPORT FOCUSED ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURES ON THE PROJECT SITE.
>> THERE'S NO PARTICULAR MENTION OR PROTECTION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL BUILDING THAT IS INCREDIBLY WELL PUBLISHED IN SEVERAL JOURNALS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ALBERT FREY BOOK, WHICH IS WHAT THAT ARCHITECT FOR THE ST. MICHAEL'S FAMOUS PALM SPRINGS ARCHITECT, BUT HE ACTUALLY DID THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING HERE.
THE CONCERN IS THAT IT'S VERY CLOSE TO, AND IT'S A VERY LARGE STRUCTURE, AND HOW WILL THAT IMPACT THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE THAT ACTUALLY IS DONE BY A VERY SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECT IN OUR STATE?
>> THE HISTORICAL RESOURCES REPORT LOOKED AT THE SITE ANALYSIS OF THE TWO STRUCTURES ARE CONTAINED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THERE IS NOT A DISTRICT OR PROPERTY LEVEL SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE PROTECTED HISTORIC RESOURCES THAT MIGHT BE IN VICINITY OF THAT SITE.
THE ANALYSIS CONCLUDED THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING THAT WOULD VIOLATE ANY PROTECTIONS FOR HISTORICAL RESOURCES WITH THE SUBJECT APPLICATION.
>> THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST HISTORIC AREAS WHERE THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURAL BUILDINGS, THE MCGEE PARK, THE MCGEE HOUSE, ST. PATRICK'S, OBVIOUSLY, THE CHURCH, AND EVEN THE VICTOR CONDOS WAS UNDER QUESTION.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN AREA THAT THOSE ADJACENCIES AND CONTEXTURAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THE HISTORIC REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED, AND AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER OF THESE HISTORIC REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN DOWNPLAYED THE SIGNIFICANCE OF ARCHITECTURAL INFORMATION THAT COULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY IF IT WAS ACTUALLY DONE BY A PROFESSIONAL HISTORIAN THAT HAD ARCHITECTURAL BACKGROUND.
I AM CONCERNED THAT WE MAY BE MISSING SOMETHING WITH THE HISTORIC REPORT THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT TAKING INTO THE LARGER CONTEXT.
>> STAFF ISN'T AWARE OF ANY REGULATION THAT WOULD BAR OR PRECLUDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, BUT CERTAINLY THE APPLICANT CAN RESPOND TO SPECIFICS OF HOW IT MIGHT RELATE.
BUT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY DISTRICT THAT WOULD PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR THESE STRUCTURES.
MICHAEL'S CHURCH AND THE PARISH MAINTAINS OWNERSHIP OF THE ENTIRE BLOCK AS WELL AS WITH THIS PROJECT.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY WERE AWARE OF THE PROJECT.
AGAIN, THEY WILL ACTUALLY RETAIN OWNERSHIP WITH LONG TERM LAND LEASE FOR THE APPLICANT.
>> ANY OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD.
JUST TO START OFF, WHAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS WAS DONE TO ASSESS OR DETERMINE THIS AMENITY WAS NEEDED FOR THE COMMUNITY, ASIDE FROM THE DEVELOPER'S INTEREST AND THE PUBLIC SUPPORT?
>> THAT IS NOT TYPICALLY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE CURRENT PLANNING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW DIVISION WOULD CONSIDER? OBVIOUSLY, REVIEW PROJECTS AS THEY'RE SUBMITTED.
IT'S NOT WE DON'T CREATE THE ANALYSIS.
>> ARE THERE ANY CURRENT INTERESTED BUSINESSES IN THOSE VACANT COMMERCIAL SPACES THAT YOU KNOW OF?
>> I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT COULD ANSWER THAT BETTER.
I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR INTERESTED PEOPLE, INTERESTED PARTIES TO RUN THE EVENTS CENTER.
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>> JUST RELATED TO THAT QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OR ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBER OF VACANT LOTS THAT SIT IN THE VILLAGE IN BARRIO?
>> YES, I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEY DID PROVIDE ME A NUMBER, I BELIEVE THE VACANCY RATE FOR RETAIL SPACE SPECIFICALLY IS 4.7% CURRENTLY.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL JUST ROUND IT OUT WITH MY LAST QUESTION.
ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY COORDINATION WITH SOME ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT SCOPE OR THE AREA THAT THIS IS IMPACTING SUCH AS HOTELS, OTHER ENTITIES THAT OFTEN COORDINATE WITH CORPORATE EVENTS, CORPORATE RETREATS AND WEDDINGS THAT WOULD BE LIKELY USING THIS SPACE.
DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE TO EITHER PUT IN SHUTTLE AGREEMENTS, TO REDUCE THE PARKING PRESSURE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
>> THE APPLICANT WOULD BE BETTER TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I KNOW THEY HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT OF NETWORKING WITH GROUPS SUCH AS THE VILLAGE ASSOCIATION AND THINGS SIMILAR TO THAT.
IT IS REQUIRED FOR WHEN THEY USE THE OFFSITE PARKING, THAT'S ABOUT A HALF MILE AWAY TO EITHER BE THAT WITH A VALET OR WITH A SHUTTLE.
>> ANY OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FURTHER? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION.
IF THERE'S ANY COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION, COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE AND CAN ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS OF YOU AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
>> MY NAME IS BRENDAN FOOT, AND I AM THE FOUNDER OF FABRIC INVESTMENTS, WHICH IS A SMALL DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT FIRM BASED IN CARLSBAD VILLAGE.
OUR OFFICES ARE ON STATE STREET.
WE'VE BEEN BASED IN THE VILLAGE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW.
THIS PROJECT WOULD BE OUR EIGHTH PROJECT IN CARLSBAD VILLAGE.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE ARE LOCAL INVESTOR DEVELOPER, VERY ACTIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PLAN ON CONTINUING TO INVEST AND DEVELOP IN THE AREA AND NOT SIMPLY BRINGING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR DENSITY BONUS PROJECTS BEFORE YOU GUYS.
SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS TIME AROUND.
I DON'T FORGET. I'LL TOUCH ON COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY'S POINT JUST SO I DON'T FORGET.
THIS HAS BEEN A FOUR YEAR PROCESS TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WHICH WAS INITIATED ACTUALLY BY ST. MICHAEL'S OUR FIRM CONTACTING ME AND ESSENTIALLY INVITING US TO CONSIDER A LONG TERM ARRANGEMENT THAT HAS NOW COME TO FRUITION.
THROUGH THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF THAT RELATIONSHIP AND DISCUSSION, WE WERE COLLECTIVELY EVALUATING EVERYTHING TOGETHER PRIOR TO EVEN STARTING A POTENTIAL SUBMITTAL PACKAGE.
THAT RANGED FROM THE USES THAT WE WANTED TO SEE AND THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE THE ARCHITECTURE, HOW THE ARCHITECTURE SPOKE TO THE BALANCE OF THE BLOCK AND NEIGHBORING ASSETS.
JUST TO TOUCH ON THAT, IT'S BEEN A VERY METHODICAL AND THOUGHTFUL PROCESS.
WE ARE AWARE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE ON THE BLOCK.
HENCE WHY WE WANTED TO GO WITH A MID CENTURY MODERN DESIGN THAT COMPLIMENTED IT.
I'M ALSO A BIG FAN OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
A LOT OF OUR WORK IN THE VILLAGE HAS BEEN ADAPTIVE REUSE.
I ALSO FEEL THAT SOMETIMES THE BEST WAY TO EMPHASIZE A HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT OR ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT IS TO PAIR IT WITH A MODERN NEWER VERSION OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT, TO CREATE SOME CONTRAST AND INTEREST.
YES, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT THROUGH.
THEN ON THE USE SIDE, WE ALL COLLECTIVELY DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC AND CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A VARIETY OF EXPERIENCES.
WE IMMEDIATELY TURNED AWAY FROM DOING ANY HOUSING, HOTEL, OFFICE, MORE PRIVATIZED USES.
WHEN WE GOT IN TO COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD'S QUESTION, WHEN WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT THE EVENT SPACE AS A POTENTIAL SECOND FLOOR USE.
I CAME UP RATHER QUICKLY BECAUSE ST. MICHAEL'S, AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE A WEDDING AND A RECEPTION AND THERE SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF CONTINUITY BETWEEN THAT OPPORTUNITY.
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BUT I TOO DIDN'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS NEEDED.I WENT OUT AND STARTED WITH VISIT CARLSBAD AND SPOKE WITH THE CEO KIM AND SHE DID SOME HOMEWORK FOR ME AND SHE VALIDATED THAT IT WAS DEFINITELY A USE THAT SHE FELT WAS STRONGLY NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
HAVING AN EVENT SPACE THAT'S DETACHED FROM A MAJOR HOTEL WHERE GROUPS ARE REQUIRED TO GO IN AND BOOK HUNDREDS OF ROOMS AT A TIME, WAS SOMETHING THAT OPENED UP THE DOORS TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, SMALLER GROUPS, COMMUNITY GROUPS.
WE THEN SPOKE THROUGH THAT SAME THREAD WITH CARLSBAD VILLAGE ASSOCIATION WHO IS MAYBE MORE IN TOUCH WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
THIS COULD BE A PLACE WHERE WE HOST VILLAGE VOICES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN VALIDATED IT THROUGH A HANDFUL OF WEDDING COORDINATORS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF GROUPS LOOKING FOR A SMALLER BOUTIQUE SPACE WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BOOK ALL THE HOTEL ROOMS. BUT SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE HERE, WHICH WE FEEL LIKE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC IS TO HAVE THIS OCEAN VIEW.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACES OR EVENT SPACES THAT OFFER THAT.
FROM OUR SECOND FLOOR AND THE THIRD FLOOR TERRACE, THEY'LL BE 180 DEGREE OCEAN VIEW.
SPENT ABOUT A YEAR VALIDATING THE USE AND DETERMINING IN OUR OPINION AND OTHERS THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT.
>> YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
SOME OF THIS, I WENT THROUGH IN APRIL, SO I WON'T GO LONG WINDED ON IT.
LAST TIME I WAS BEFORE YOU GUYS.
HERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF IMAGES.
IT DEMONSTRATES SOME OF THE OTHER WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE VILLAGE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE REALLY FOCUS ON BRINGING A DIVERSE DIVERSITY OF USES TO THE AREA.
WE AREN'T JUST A HOUSING DEVELOPER OR RETAIL DEVELOPER.
TRY TO TAKE CUES FROM WHAT THE PROPERTY IS GIVING US WHAT IS NEEDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S A LOT OF THE WAYS THAT INFORMS OUR PROCESS.
KYLE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB TALKING THROUGH THE BASICS.
I WON'T GET TOO MUCH INTO THE DETAILS ON THE PROJECT UNLESS YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS UNDER A ONE FAR PROJECT, AND I THINK WE'VE GONE TO INCREDIBLE EXTRAORDINARY LENGTHS TO ADDRESS WHAT WE ALREADY KNEW WAS GOING TO BE THE HOT BUTTON, WHICH WAS PARKING.
WE FOUND OBVIOUSLY THAT WE COULD ONLY PROVIDE TEN SPACES ON SITE.
WE IMMEDIATELY SECURED WITH ST. MICHAEL'S SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT FOR THE ADJACENT LOT DIRECTLY TO THE WEST, WHICH HAS APPROXIMATELY 40 STALLS.
THEN ESSENTIALLY, I'M COLLAZING ONE OF OUR OWN ASSETS, WHICH IS DOWN THE STREET, WHICH IS AN OFFICE BUILDING THAT HAS 50 STALLS TO ADDRESS THE PARKING NEED FOR THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THAT IS A VERY CREATIVE APPROACH.
WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO BE SMART ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT PARKING IN THE VILLAGE AS IT'S CLEARLY A TOPIC ON EVERYONE'S MIND.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT CREATIVELY MANAGING THE EFFICIENCY AROUND TIME OF DAY USE OF PARKING SPACES IS A GREAT WAY TO START TO CHIP AWAY AT MAYBE WHAT IS DEEMED AS AN ISSUE.
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS AND THIS IS ABOUT A QUARTER MILE AWAY, SO YOU COULD WALK IT, BUT WE WILL LIKELY HAVE A SHUTTLE SERVICE.
THESE ARE 50 STALLS THAT ARE USED FOR OFFICE USERS THAT BASICALLY AREN'T USED AFTER 6:00 PM AND AREN'T USED ON THE WEEKENDS.
SO THAT WE WILL BE USING THOSE STALLS FOR THIS PURPOSE, WHICH I THINK IS AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY.
COLLECTIVELY, WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING ABOUT 110 STALLS, WHICH IS IF YOU JUST TOOK THAT ON THE EVENT SPACE, THAT'S ONE PER 60 SQUARE FEET.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE IGNORED.
WE OBVIOUSLY ARE WORKING WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF A PRETTY SMALL SITE.
BUT I THINK GIVEN THE ABILITY OF WHAT WE COULD DO, I THINK WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON ADDRESSING THE PARKING IDEA.
OBVIOUSLY, KYLE MENTIONED THIS IN THE HOSPITALITY ZONE.
WHAT STUCK OUT TO ME WAS THE POINT OF THIS AREA IS FOR VISITORS SERVING AND HOSPITALITY USES THAT SERVE VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE.
THAT'S REALLY THE INTENT OF THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A SPACE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY CAN ENJOY HAVE SPECIAL MOMENTS,
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AND ANNIVERSARY, A BAR MITZVA BIRTHDAY PARTY, A WEDDING, VERY IMPORTANT MILESTONES IN PEOPLE'S LIVES.IT'S JUST A LITTLE CONTEXTUAL MAP AND SOME RENDERINGS.
YOU CAN SEE, WE REALLY ARE USING THE ROUNDED SOFFITS, THE BATTEN, WOOD CLADDING TO CREATE MORE OF A SOFT FEATURE ON THE BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO BEING A GIANT BOX OR RECTANGLE.
THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE THINK PLAYS OFF THE MID CENTURY MODERN STYLE THAT WILL ONLY ENHANCE WHAT'S ALREADY ON THE ST. MICHAEL'S CAMPUS.
THIS IS RENDERING AN AERIAL VIEW FROM OF THE EVENT SPACE.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE HAVING A WEDDING OUT ON THE LITTLE TERRACE THERE WHERE THE BACKGROUND IS 180 DEGREE OCEAN VIEW.
IT REALLY CREATES FOR A NICE INTIMATE SPACE.
WE'VE REALLY SOFTENED UP WITH THE LANDSCAPING ON ALL THREE LEVELS, WHICH I THINK IS KEY.
THIS AGAIN GOES BACK INTO THE PARKING AND THE CREATIVE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, NOT TO ADDRESS PUBLIC CONCERN, BUT TO ADDRESS THE MARKET NEED FOR WHAT WE THINK THE EVENT SPACE WILL REQUIRE.
WE ARE WORKING WITH AN EVENT MANAGEMENT EVENTS MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO MANAGE THE EVENT SPACE PROFESSIONALLY.
THEY MANAGE 10 OTHER INDEPENDENT VENUES.
THEY'RE ONE OF THE MOST REPUTABLE EVENT MANAGEMENT CATERING COMPANIES.
THEY'RE BASED IN COSTA MESA, BUT WORK IN SAN DIEGO, ORANGE COUNTY PRIMARILY.
WE CONSULTED WITH LAZ PARKING ON HOW COULD WE LAY OUT THE VALET SO THAT WE OPTIMIZE THE PARKING.
WE WORKED WITH LAZ AND 24 CARROTS TO GET MORE DATA AND INFORMATION AND RUN STUDIES ABOUT FOR A TYPICAL WEDDING OR EVENT, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF GUESTS CARPOOL, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF GUESTS USE RIDE SHARE, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF GUESTS USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION? ALL OF THAT INFORMED THE DATA AROUND THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN.
60% OF PEOPLE TODAY EITHER CARPOOL OR RIDE SHARE TO AN EVENT.
VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE JUST DRIVING THEMSELVES IN A SINGLE CAR.
WE DID SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY OUTREACH, SPOKE AT VILLAGE VOICES IN FRONT OF ABOUT 75-100 BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT ATTEND THAT EVENT.
MET WITH VISIT CARLSBAD, GOT LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM ALL THREE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING ARMY, NAVY.
OBVIOUSLY, WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, WANT TO BE DEVELOPING PROJECTS THAT ENHANCE THE VILLAGE, NOT DETRACT FROM IT.
WE WENT OUT TO ALL THE NEIGHBORING STAKEHOLDERS AND MADE SURE THAT THEY HAD AN ABILITY BEFORE WE CAME BEFORE YOU TO SPEAK THEIR MIND OR GIVE US ANY FEEDBACK.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IN WHICH WENT UNANSWERED?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, COMMISSIONER HUBINGER.
>> ANY IDEA THE BOTTOM LEVEL RETAILERS, WHICH YOU HAVE PLANNED THERE AND WHAT THE SPACE IS LIKE, WHICH YOU'RE HOPING TO ATTRACT?
TRY NOT TO COUNT MY CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HATCH.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I COULD GET THE PROJECT APPROVED BEFORE WE'RE OUT SOLICITING TENANTS.
BUT I IMAGINE IT'LL BE A MIX OF RETAIL AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE.
OBVIOUSLY, THE CORNER ADJACENT TO MCGEE PARK IS LAID OUT AND DESIGNED FOR A RESTAURANT.
I THINK THAT THE OTHER TWO, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF TRYING TO BRING RETAIL TO THE VILLAGE, LIKE ACTUAL SHOPPING.
I KNOW THAT FOOD AND BEVERAGE IS A VERY PREVALENT USE AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET REAL GOOD RETAILERS IN BECAUSE I WANT CONSUMERS IN THE VILLAGE, RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE TO HAVE A DIVERSE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY CAN WALK AROUND AND MEANDER AND GO TO A SHOP AND GO TO A CAFE AND NOT JUST BE SO INTENTIONAL, WHICH I THINK ALSO ALLEVIATES SOME OF THE PARKING ISSUES.
THE MINUTE EVERYONE STOPS FEELING THAT THEY NEED TO PARK RIGHT IN FRONT OF WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE AN AMAZING GRID WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT POCKETS OF THINGS HAPPENING THEY START TO MOVE AROUND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
TO YOUR QUESTION, NOT SURE, BUT ALREADY TALKING TO A COUPLE OF LOCAL GROUPS IN CARLSBAD.
I WANT TO TRY TO SUPPORT OBVIOUSLY LOCAL BUSINESSES FIRST AND SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.
>> COULD YOU PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN REGARD TO YOUR OFFSITE PARKING AND WHAT TYPE OF ARRANGEMENTS,
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CONTRACTS, THINGS THAT YOU WILL HAVE WITH THOSE OWNERS OF THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES?>> TEN ON SITE SPACES, AN ADDITIONAL 40 ADJACENT.
THAT'S PART OF ST. MICHAEL'S PROPERTY, SO WE HAVE A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT WITH ST. MICHAEL'S FOR THOSE 40 STALLS.
THEN THE ADDITIONAL 50 STALLS AT 2333 STATE, THAT'S A PROPERTY THAT I OWN SO WE HAVE A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT.
>> WITH THAT PARTICULAR PARKING LOT ON STATE STREET WILL THERE BE A CONTRACT OF SOME SORT AND MAYBE THE LENGTH OF CONTRACT FOR THAT?
>> WELL, IT'S A CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL FOR THE CUP.
WITHOUT THE AGREEMENTS PERPETUAL AND IF IT WENT AWAY, THEN OUR CUP WOULD GO AWAY.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I APPRECIATE THAT.
FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, COMMISSIONER BURROWS.
>> THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. I BELIEVE I SAW IN OUR PACKET THAT YOU HAD NOTED YOUR EVENT MANAGEMENT PARTNER WAS ESTIMATING THAT 75% OF PEOPLE WOULD BE ARRIVING VIA RIDE SHARE OR CARPOOL AND I THINK YOU JUST SAID 60%, THAT'S LAZ PARKING THAT'S MAKING THAT ESTIMATION?
>> LAZ PROVIDED US WITH A 60% APPROXIMATION, SO I USE THAT AS A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
BUT 24 CARATS, WHO'S OUR EVENT MANAGEMENT PARTNER, THEIR STATISTIC IS LIKE 68 OR 69% ARRIVE IN RIDE SHARE.
THAT'S BASED ON THE 10 VENUES THAT THEY INDEPENDENTLY MANAGE CURRENTLY.
WHICH ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.
THEY'RE ALL DETACHED WEDDING AND EVENT VENUE STRUCTURES WHERE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, IF THEY CAN HOLD 250 GUESTS, THEY DON'T HAVE 250 PARKING STALLS.
THEY ALSO ARE HAVING TO KEEP TABS ON HOW PEOPLE ARRIVE AND HOW THEY USE THAT PARKING FACILITY.
>> IS YOUR ARCHITECT AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS?
>> GREAT. I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION, YOU DID TOUCH ON THE RELATIONSHIP YOU HAVE WITH ST. MICHAEL'S, BUT ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS THAT YOU KNOW OF IN PARTICULAR THAT ARE BEING MADE TO PRESERVE THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING OF THEIR, WELL THEY'RE TWO SIGNIFICANT BUILDINGS ON THAT SITE AND HOW WILL THAT AFFECT IT?
>> MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION.
BUT OUR PROJECT ISN'T ENCROACHING AT ALL ON THAT SITE SO THE EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING AREN'T GOING TO BE TOUCHED AT ALL.
>> BASICALLY, THIS IS A SLAB ON GRADE STRUCTURE.
THERE'S NO UNDERGROUND PARKING,.
IS THERE A REASON YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANY UNDERGROUND PARKING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S BECOME A BIG ISSUE.
>> ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS A STALL.
>> WELL, I UNDERSTAND BUT IT'S A VALUABLE PLACE.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE SLAB ON GRADE WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO DOWN SOMEHOW TO BE ABLE TO ANCHOR IT BECAUSE IT'S A TALLER BUILDING THAN WHAT'S THERE CURRENTLY.
I'M CURIOUS AS TO THE THINKING OF THAT.
BUT IF YOUR ARCHITECT IS AVAILABLE I'D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH HIM.
>>WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE?
>> IT'S BRETT MALKOVICH WITH SAFDIE RABINES ARCHITECTS.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
>> THANK YOU. A GREAT RESPECT FOR YOUR FIRM.
OBVIOUSLY DONE SOME REAL GOOD STUFF IN CARLSBAD, WE'VE SEEN IT.
MY CONCERN WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS TWOFOLD THE SCALE AND THE LACK OF FACE ON THE BUILDING.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE ON A REALLY PROMINENT CORNER WITH THE PARK THERE AND THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE, YOU'VE SET IT ALL BACK.
THE PLAN MAKES PERFECT SENSE BECAUSE YOU'VE TRIANGULATED THE BUILDING SIMILARLY TO THE FRY BUILDING I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT, I'M LOSING THE FACE OF THIS.
THESE SETBACKS ARE VERY LARGE AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE ENGAGING WITH NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH, BUT ALSO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT PARK FACE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS WITH THAT PARTICULAR PARK AND THE COASTAL ASPECT OF IT.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SETTING IT BACK, BUT WHAT'S THE REASONING TO SET IT BACK SO FAR FROM THE CORNERS?
>> NO, IT'S NOT A LASER [INAUDIBLE].
BUT YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD FACADE IF YOU GO BACK.
THE LOWER LEFT IMAGE SHOWS BASICALLY GOING NORTH ON CARLSBAD VILLAGE BOULEVARD.
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THE FACADE FACING THE CHURCH COMES AT A POINT.THIS PARTICULAR ANGLE, YOU SEE HOW WE REDUCED THE MASSING PRETTY DRAMATICALLY SO THAT IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A LARGE BLOCK ON THAT CORNER AND THEN THE LOWER RIGHT IMAGE, THIS IMAGE IS THE FACADE FACING THE PARK.
THIS, WE STEPPED BACK AND DID WRAP AROUND BALCONIES AND GLASS AND PROVIDED WRAP AROUND OUTDOOR SPACE.
ON ALL FACADES FACING THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, WE INCLUDED A LOT OF INTEGRAL PLANTING AND ALSO THE STEPPING HELPS BREAK DOWN THE MASSING AND SCALE OF THE PROJECT.
WITH RETAIL AND EVENT PLANNING SPACES THOSE REQUIRE TALLER FLOOR TO FLOORS THAN YOU WOULD SEE NORMALLY IN HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE.
IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE TALL RETAIL SPACES ALREADY IN CARLSBAD.
WE HIT THAT MINIMUM AT THE GROUND LEVEL AND THEN PROVIDED AS MUCH AS WE COULD ON THE SECOND LEVEL.
THEN THE THIRD LEVEL, WHICH IS MOSTLY OUTDOOR SPACE, KEPT THAT AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.
WE'VE ALSO INTEGRATED THE PARAPET AT THE TOP TO BE THE MECHANICAL SCREEN AND THAT MIMICS THE GEOMETRY OF THE PLANTERS THEMSELVES.
THE BIG GESTURE TOWARDS THE PARK WAS TO CELEBRATE THIS ENTRY ARRIVAL SEQUENCE THAT YOU WOULD ARRIVE BY VEHICLE AND TO CONCEAL VISUALLY JUST LIKE AN OPEN PARKING LOT THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE ADJACENT TO A BUILDING.
THAT'S THE CEREMONIAL ENTRY THAT YOU DRIVE UNDER, WHICH IS THAT PROJECTED BALCONY SPACE FOR THE SECOND LEVEL EVENT SPACE.
THE REST OF IT WERE JUST A LOT OF MOVES AND ARTICULATION TO HIDE, NORMALLY UNSIGHTLY FEATURES LIKE STAIRS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL NOTICE ALL THE STAIRS THEY'RE SCREENED AS THOUGH THEY'RE PART OF THE FACADE, WHICH IS THAT VERTICAL BATON THAT YOU SEE.
THEN THE REST OF IT WAS JUST TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING MINIMAL AND LIGHT SO IT DIDN'T FEEL SO HEAVY AND BOXY.
>> I GUESS THE STRUGGLE I'M HAVING IS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT YOUR FRY BUILDING, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE MCGEE HOUSE, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT, EVEN THE NEW, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? NURSING HOME THAT'S GOING JUST DOWN BELOW THAT, ISN'T THAT CORRECT? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE VILLAGE EVARIO MASTER PLAN IS ALL ABOUT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND WORK WITH THE CONTEXT THAT EXISTS.
OBVIOUSLY, THE ARMY NAVY VOCABULARY PROBABLY ISN'T APPROPRIATE HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS SIGNIFICANT MID CENTURY BUILDING OF ST. MICHAEL'S.
BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THERE'S THIS BRIDGE TO SOMETHING THAT RELATES TO MCGEE PARK SOMEHOW AND OBVIOUSLY THE VIEW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE.
I'M REALLY LOSING THE INTENT OF THESE SWEEPING CURVES BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY RELATE TO ST. MICHAEL'S AND THEY DON'T REALLY RELATE TO MCGEE PARK.
I'M STRUGGLING WITH YOUR CONTEXTURAL INTERPRETATION.
THEREFORE, I'M STRUGGLING WITH APPROVING A FACADE THAT IT'S HARD TO TELL BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH PLANTING AND NOT SO MUCH OTHER STUFF.
I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS RELATES.
I GUESS MAYBE IN DEVELOPMENT, IT'LL GET BETTER, BUT BECAUSE I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE VERY GOOD WORK, BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THE FORM IS NOT RELATING SOMEHOW. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD.
>> I JUST HAD ONE MORE QUESTION HERE.
CAN YOU CLICK BACK TO WHERE WE CAN SEE THE OVERHANG? THE DRIVING ENTRANCE.
CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW VENDORS AND VANS AND TRUCKS WILL BE ENTER AND ACCESS THIS SPACE? KNOWING THAT IT'S A WEDDING, CORPORATE EVENTS HAPPENING HERE.
I JUST PLANNED A WEDDING SO I KNOW THERE'S REALLY LARGE SCALE DECOR, FLOWERS, ALL THESE THINGS THAT CHAIRS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP, IT SEEMS LIKE.
CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE BOTH HOW THE TRUCKS VENDORS WILL ENTER THE BUILDING AND HOW THAT PLAYS IN WITH THE DESIGN AND IF THERE'S ANY RESTRICTIONS WITH THIS OVERHANG.
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. A COUPLE THINGS ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WE HAVE SOME COMMON AREA SPACE.
WE HAVE ABOUT A 600 SQUARE FOOT STORAGE ROOM AND THAT'S GOING TO HOUSE ALL THE CHAIRS AND SOME OF THOSE PERMANENT FIXTURES FOR A WEDDING LIKE THAT.
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THE INTENT IS THAT GROUPS WHO COME IN FOR AN EVENT OR A WEDDING THEY WON'T BE BRINGING IN THEIR OWN FURNITURE, THAT WE WILL HAVE IT ON SITE.THE OVERHANG THERE IS 13.5 FEET TALL, SO A LOT OF DELIVERIES AND TRUCKS CAN COME THROUGH UNDERNEATH THAT AND WE HAVE A LOT LIKE A RECEIVING AREA IN THE BACK WITH TWO DIFFERENT ELEVATORS, A GUEST ELEVATOR AND THEN A SERVICE ELEVATOR THAT IS MEANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE DIFFERENT THINGS UP AND DOWN.
IN TERMS OF JUST OUTSIDE OF THAT, DELIVERIES AND COMMERCIAL DELIVERIES.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON.
THERE'S A SENSITIVITY ABOUT ESTABLISHING A SINGLE YELLOW LOADING ZONE OUTSIDE OF A PROJECT BECAUSE IT ESSENTIALLY TAKES AWAY A PUBLIC PARKING SPACE.
WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO DO MOST OF THE DELIVERIES ON PROPERTY.
IF THERE'S A TRUCK THAT'S TALLER THAN THAT THEN WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE IT DIFFERENTLY JUST AS 90% OF BUSINESSES DO IN THE VILLAGE.
CAN I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT ON THE MCGEE PARK?
>> YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECT SO I HAVE NO GROUNDS TO AGREE OR DISAGREE THERE.
BUT FOR THOSE OF US, I THINK, IN THIS ROOM THAT SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THE VILLAGE AND AROUND MCGEE PARK.
MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT AND GOAL WOULD BE THAT THE VIBRANCY CREATED THROUGH THIS PROJECT CREATES A NEW VIBRANCY FOR THE PARK, WHICH I THINK IS DRASTICALLY NEEDED AT THIS POINT.
ARCHITECTURALLY, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE WAY THAT THIS PROJECT TALKS TO THE PARK OR OTHER WAYS, BUT OPERATIONALLY, MY VISION WOULD BE THAT ONCE THIS IS BUILT, YOU SEE A WHOLE NEW GROUP OF FAMILIES HAVING PICNICS, PEOPLE TAKING PHOTOS BEFORE A WEDDING, ALL REALLY GREAT WAYS TO BRING THAT PARK BACK TO LIFE.
TO ME, RIGHT NOW, IT'S AN ASSET THAT IS NOT USED PROPERLY.
ONE OF THE GOALS OF THIS PROJECT AND THE WAY THAT THIS IS MEANT TO BRING PEOPLE IN IS TO ENHANCE THAT AS A SURROUNDING.
ARCHITECTURALLY, THAT'S NOT MAYBE THE ANSWER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT OPERATIONALLY, I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CONNECTIVITY IS PEOPLE, VIBRANCY, THE RIGHT USES.
>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONER FOSTER.
>> HI, BERNARD. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON DEAL STRUCTURE.
ST. MICHAEL OWNS A LAND AND IS AN ENTITY THAT YOU CONTROL ENTERING INTO A LAND LEASE ON THE SPECIFIC AREA?
>> IS THAT 50 YEARS, 99 YEARS? IS IT PUBLIC?
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT AT THIS MOMENT? THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.
>> I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
MINUTES CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS?
>> THANK YOU. AS OUR FIRST SPEAKER APPROACHES THE PODIUM, LET ME EXPLAIN THE COMMISSION'S PROCEDURES FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS TO HELP SPEAKERS STAY WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT.
THE MINUTES CLERK WILL ACTIVATE THE LIGHTED TIMER.
THE GREEN LIGHT MEANS TO SPEAK, YELLOW MEANS YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE REMAINING AND THE BLINKING RED LIGHT MEANS TIME HAS EXPIRED.
>> STEVE LINKY CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE?
>> MR. LINKY, APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK AGAIN.
DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO THE STAFF, THE APPLICANT, OR THE PUBLIC.
AFTER WE HAVE RECEIVED ALL THE TESTIMONY FROM ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, WE'LL ASK THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO RESPOND TO ALL QUESTIONS.
PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME CLEARLY, WHICH YOU HAVE DONE. GO AHEAD.
>> IT'S STEVE LINKY AGAIN FROM EQUITABLE LAND USE ALLIANCE.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS PROJECT BASES THE VEHICLE TRIPS ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THE LARGEST PART OF THE PROJECT IS THE EVENT SPACE THAT SPREAD OVER THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS.
THE TABLE IN THE RED BOX IN THE LOWER LEFT SHOWS THAT THE APPLICANT ASSUMED JUST 6,034 SQUARE FEET FOR THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY.
HOWEVER, THE TOTAL INTERIOR IS ACTUALLY 09,440 SQUARE FEET AND WHEN YOU ADD THE EXTERIOR TERRACES, IT'S 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS NONSENSE.
THE BOTTOM TABLE HERE SHOWS THE APPLICANT USING 132 PARKING SPACES FOR THE LARGER EVENTS OF UP TO 250 GUESTS, MOST LIKELY TO OCCUR ON SUMMER WEEKENDS LIKE WEDDINGS.
THE APPLICANT USED A SAND EGG TOOL THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE AN OPTION FOR EVENT CENTERS SO THEY CHOSE A SUBSTITUTE METHOD AND SPREAD THE TRIPS OUT OVER THE COURSE OF WEEKDAYS.
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THE RED BOX IN THE UPPER TABLE SHOWS JUST FIVE VEHICLE TRIPS IN THE PEAK HOUR.STAFF DID NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT THIS VERY UNREALISTIC SUBSTITUTE METHOD AND THE COMMISSION SHOULD REJECT IT.
IT'S JUST NOT REALISTIC THAT ON A WEDDING DAY THAT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRIPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDED TO THAT AREA IS FIVE PER HOUR.
>> AB 2097 IS REPEATEDLY CITED AS PROHIBITING THE CITY FROM IMPOSING AN ONSITE PARKING MINIMUM DUE TO THE SITE BEING WITHIN 1/2 MILE OF A TRANSIT STATION.
HOWEVER, THIS GUIDANCE FROM HCD SHOWS THAT EVENT CENTERS ARE EXEMPT FROM AB 2097 AND PARKING MINIMUM CAN BE IMPOSED.
NOW I SAW THAT THE STAFF ADDED TO THEIR PRESENTATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR EVENT CENTERS, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S NONSENSE.
YOU CAN PUT A COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENT ON IT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR EVENT CENTERS.
OPEN STREET PARKING SPACES CAN APPARENTLY BE QUITE SCARCE IN THIS AREA, PARTICULARLY ON SUMMER WEEKENDS WHEN THE LARGEST EVENTS AT THIS SITE WILL BE HAPPENING.
GIVEN THE CHOICE OF PAYING AND TIPPING A VALET AND THEN TAKING A SHUTTLE OR WALKING THE 1/2 MILE SEVEN MINUTE WALK FROM THE OFFSITE PARKING, WE SUSPECT THAT MANY EVENT GOERS WILL FIRST LOOK FOR FREE NEARBY STREET PARKING, WHICH COULD HAVE VERY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS DEVELOPER AND OTHERS ARE EXPLOITING AB 2097 AND OTHER LAWS TO AVOID PROVIDING PARKING.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE SAME DEVELOPER DID THE ROOSEVELT PROJECT, WHICH YOU REVIEWED A FEW MONTHS AGO, PROVIDING ZERO PARKING SPACES FOR ITS SEVEN COMMERCIAL SPACES, WHICH WILL IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE AS WELL.
THEREFORE, ELUA IS CALLING ON THE COMMISSION AND STAFF TO REQUIRE A REVISION OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO REFLECT THE REALITY OF THE NUMBER OF GUESTS THAT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES WILL BE ARRIVING.
APPLICATION OF EVENT CENTER EXCEPTION TO AB 2097.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, WOULD THEY AGREE TO A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO NOT.
>> THANK YOU. MR. VAN LEN, DO YOU WISH TO [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE HAVE ONE MORE MR. SPEAKER.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
I'M THE CEO OF VISIT CARLSBAD AND CARLSBAD RESIDENT.
I'M HERE TO TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AND SHARE THAT THE BOULEVARD BEACH PROJECT REALLY DOES FILL A GAP HERE.
THERE AREN'T VERY MANY OCEAN VIEW GATHERING SPACES IN CARLSBAD AT THE MOMENT.
THIS WILL REALLY ADD TO THE CARLSBAD EXPERIENCE, WHETHER THIS SPACE IS USED FOR WEDDINGS, CULTURAL EVENTS OR CONFERENCES.
WE'D LOVE TO SEE THIS COME TO FRUITION.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S A CONFERENCE GROUP STAYING AT PARK HAYA AVIA THIS WEEK AND THEY'RE BEING SHUTTLED DOWN TO GEORGE'S AT THE COVE AND LA HOYA.
I THINK THAT WHAT HAPPENS IS OBVIOUSLY OUR LARGER HOTELS WANT TO KEEP THAT FOOD AND BEVERAGE REVENUE ON SITE.
HOWEVER, SOMETIMES THE CONFERENCE GOERS WANT TO GO OFF SITE TO UNIQUE SPACES.
WOULDN'T IT BE WONDERFUL TO GIVE THEM THAT CHOICE.
THIS WOULD BE A SPACE THAT IS WALKABLE TO OUR HARMING VILLAGE, NEARBY PUBLIC TRANSIT.
AS I MENTIONED, A LOT OF CONFERENCE GOERS SHUTTLE FROM THEIR HOTEL TO THE OFFSITE VENUE.
I ALSO JUST WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONFERENCE BUSINESS IN CARLSBAD.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN A HEALTHY TOURISM ECONOMY HERE.
DURING THE FOLLOWING WINTER AND DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK, WHEN OUR LEISURE VISITORS ARE BACK AT HOME AND AT SCHOOL.
IT'S THE CONFERENCE TRAVELERS THAT ARE ENJOYING CARLSBAD IN NOVEMBER AND FEBRUARY AND BRINGING THOSE STEADY REVENUES VIA HOTEL TAXES INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
BRINGING A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE OFFSITE VENUE THAT COULD BE USED FOR CONFERENCES WOULD REALLY MAKE WAVES IN THE MEETINGS AND CONFERENCE EVENT WORLD AND WOULD REALLY ALLOW OUR TEAM TO ATTRACT NEW GROUPS TO CONSIDER CARLSBAD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
WOULD STAFF LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THE TWO COMMENTS TO PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THE PODIUM.
>> GOING BACK TO THE GAG SECOND.
THE ANALYSIS OF THE PARKING ANALYSIS PROVIDED BY MR. LINKY IS INCORRECT.
HE HAD PROVIDED A WRITTEN LETTER AS WELL AND THAT WRITTEN LETTER SAYS THAT THE INTERIOR GROSS FLOOR AREA, WHICH IS THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM THAT SHOULD BE USED FOR CHIP GENERATION CALCULATIONS OF
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LEVEL 2 AND 3 IS 90,000 OR 9,440 SQUARE FEET, CLAIMING THAT THAT THE CALCULATION ONLY 6,000 SQUARE FEET.THE ISSUE ARISES WITH THE RESTAURANT CALCULATION.
THE RESTAURANT CALCULATION ACTUALLY IS FOR THE FIRST FLOOR, RESTAURANT SPACE AS WELL AS THE THIRD FLOOR SPACE.
03,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE THIRD FLOOR SPACE IS CALCULATED AT THE TRIP GENERATIONS RATE FOR A RESTAURANT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE HIGHEST RATE ON THE TABLE.
WITH THE COMBINATION OF THE 3,000 THAT WAS MISSED PLUS 6,000, IT'S 9,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT WAS CALCULATED FOUR LEVELS 2 AND 3, CLOSE TO THAT 9,000 NUMBER.
ADDITIONALLY, THE UPPER FLOOR BEING CALCULATED AT 3,000 SQUARE FEET AT THE RESTAURANT RATE, WHICH WAS 160 TRIPS PER 1,000 SQUARE FEET, OPPOSED TO ANY OF THE OTHER RATES, ESPECIALLY THE CHURCH RATE WHICH WE USED FOR THE EVENT SPACE.
THAT CALCULATION FOR THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR REPRESENTS 534 OF THE AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS OF 1,065 TRIPS THAT ARE PRESENTED ON THIS TABLE.
THE APPLICANT DID NOT FUDGE THE NUMBERS OR FORGET TO CALCULATE A SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ABLE TO KEEP THOSE NUMBERS DOWN.
I THINK YOU JUST MISREAD THAT THE RESTAURANT IS BOTH ON THE FIRST FLOOR AS WELL AS THE THIRD FLOOR USED FOR THE CALCULATION OF THE BAR AND SERVICE AREA.
THE TOTAL OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY SPACE THAT CAN BE CONTRIBUTED TO VEHICLE TRIPS IS 15,000 IS WHAT THE COMMENTER HAS STATED.
IF WE USE THE TRIPS RATE FOR THE CHURCH, THAT WOULD BE 135 ADT, AGAIN, THE CALCULATION FOR THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR IS ACTUALLY 534, SO MUCH HIGHER.
AGAIN, JUST DISAGREE THAT THE CALCULATION IS INACCURATE.
WE ALSO JUST WANT TO RESTATE THAT FOR AB 2097, IT IS SPECIFIC THAT FOR EVENT CENTERS, WE CAN REQUIRE PARKING FOR STAFF AND WORKERS, NOT OUR BASE RATE.
BUT AGAIN, IF WE WERE TO APPLY THE ASSEMBLY SPACE PARKING RATE FOR THE SECOND FLOOR EVENT SPACE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE HIGHEST PARKING RATE WITHIN THE VILLAGE EMBARGO MASTER PLAN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE 50 SPACES FOR THE EVENT SPACE.
INSTEAD, THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN PROVIDES UPPERS OF, 99,100 SPACES.
>> YES. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WAS JUST HOPEFULLY, GOING TO STRIKE A COURT OF ASSOCIATION WITH THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, GIVEN THE SHEER NUMBER OF TRIPS, THE AM PEAK PERIOD AND PM PEAK PERIODS ARE DEFINED PERIODS OF THE DAY.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE EVENT SPACE ACCOMMODATING LARGE EVENTS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AT 7:00 OR 8:00 IN THE MORNING OR 5:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.
THERE EVENING TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, TYPICALLY ON THE WEEKEND.
ALSO, JUST TO SUPPLEMENT, THE RESPONSE ABOUT AB 2097, AS IT WAS CODIFIED BY THE STATE LEGISLATOR, THEY'VE MADE A VERY CLEAR DELINEATION UNDER SUBDIVISION A OF THAT SECTION.
THAT LOCAL AGENCIES ARE PRECLUDED FROM ENFORCING ANY MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS ON RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES WITHIN THE 1/2 MILE OF THAT TRANSIT LOCATION.
THERE IS A SUBDIVISION D THAT CARVES OUT THAT EXCEPTION FOR EVENT CENTER SPACES, AND AS PRESENTED EARLIER IN THE SLIDE SHOW, PROVIDED BY STAFF.
EVENT CENTERS ARE TO BE CALCULATED IF THERE IS A LOCAL ORDINANCE JUST FOR THE EMPLOYEES OR THE VENDORS THAT ARE OPERATING EVENT, NOT THE PUBLIC.
>> THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE SPEAKERS? THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE THAT. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OR THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY?
>> IT'S A QUESTION FOR MR. GELLER, 475 CUBIC YARDS OF CUT, 469 CUBIC YARDS OF FILL, AND 12 CUBIC YARDS OF EXPORT.
IS THAT A MAJOR OR A MINOR GRADING PERMIT? WHAT DOES THAT CALCULATE IN FEET DOWN?
>> JASON GELDERT, INJURING MANAGER.
THAT AMOUNT THAT YOU JUST GAVE ME IS UNDER 2000 CUBIC FEET, AND GENERALLY UNDER 2000 CUBIC FEET IS CONSIDERED A MINOR GRADING PERMIT.
>> IN FEET, WHAT DOES THAT GO DOWN TO? HOW MANY FEET DO THEY HAVE TO GO TO DIG IT UP TO,
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BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S RIGHT NEAR THE?>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE A 1/2 A FOOT TO A FOOT.
>> DO YOU HAVE TO EIGHTING LIKE THAT.
>> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ADDITIONAL PARKING BY DIGGING FOR THIS PARTICULAR AMOUNT OF GRADING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE; IS THAT CORRECT?
>>YOU MEAN UNDER UNDERGROUND PARKING?
>> BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT THAT SAYS THAT THEY WOULD BE PRECLUDED FROM DIGGING FARTHER ONTO THAT SITE IF THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL PARKING?
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? I'LL ASK FOR COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM FURTHER AMONGST OURSELVES.
WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.
ANY DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSIONERS? WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND ARE YOU READY TO MAKE A MOTION OR ANY COMMENTS AT ALL IN REGARD TO YOUR POSITIONS IN REGARD TO THE AGENDA.
>> I'LL BREAK THE ICE. COME ON, GUYS.
IN MY OPINION, I THINK THIS PROJECT IS A NET POSITIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT THE CURRENT SITE ITSELF, I BELIEVE THREE BUILDINGS, MAYBE BUILT IN 1950S, VERY TINY BUILDINGS.
I THINK THE APPLICANT TOLD A GREAT STORY.
I MEAN, THE FACT THAT ST. MICHAEL'S CAME TO THE APPLICANT AND SAID, HEY, WE HAVE THIS SITE AND WE WANT TO DEVELOP IT AND WHAT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT'S JUST A STRONG, POWERFUL MESSAGE AND THE FACT THAT THEY CAME UP WITH THIS EVENT SPACE, I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT PROJECT.
I USED TO LIVE IN CARLSBAD VILLAGE TEN YEARS AGO WITH AT THE TIME FIANCE AND WHEN I WANTED TO GET MARRIED, THERE WAS NOWHERE IN CARLSBAD VILLAGE TO GET MARRIED.
IF I COULD HAVE WALKED TO MY WEDDING, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT.
I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
I MEAN, THE OPTIONS AT THAT TIME AND MAYBE EVEN STILL TODAY IS LIKE LA COSTA PARK HAY DAVIA AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE YOU OUT THE WA ZOO FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I THINK HAVING OFFSITE VENUE IN THE VILLAGES, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A NET POSITIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND I THINK IT'S VERY CREATIVE AND I SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOSTER.
>> I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I HOPE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE INFORMED BY DATA.
HOWEVER, I THINK TODAY, THERE WAS A REALLY STRONG NARRATIVE AND DEMONSTRATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE DESIGNED THIS WITH THE IMPACT ON COMMUNITY.
I WOULD ASK IN THE FUTURE THAT WE JUST TAKE A STEP BEYOND THE FOLKS THAT ARE IMPACTED IN THAT VICINITY AND CONSIDER THOSE INNOVATIVE APPROACHES LIKE THE HOTELS THAT DO SHUTTLING, AND WHAT OTHER TYPE OF IMPACTS YOU CAN HAVE JUST BEYOND THAT SMALL AREA.
BUT ALL OF THAT ASIDE, I THINK, AGAIN, YOU'VE SHOWN A REALLY STRONG NARRATIVE.
YOU'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, AND I THINK IT DOES ALIGN WITH THE SIMILAR ARCHITECTURE STYLES THAT YOU'VE BUILT IN THE COMMUNITY.
I WOULD BE EXCITED TO SEE THIS PROJECT, GO THROUGH.
>> I THINK THE PROJECT HAS A GREAT DESIGN STYLE, AND IT'S GOING TO SUPPORT THE CONFERENCE BUSINESS IN THE CITY AND CONSISTENT WITH THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN, I THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT THAT IS SUPPORTED BY COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS LIKE ARMY NAVY ACADEMY, VISIT CARLSBAD AND THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE ASSOCIATION.
FOR THAT, I SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
>> HI. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK THEY DO GOOD WORK, BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT I GUESS I'M A BIGGER FAN OF ALBERT FRY.
I'M NOT 100% SURE THAT THIS IS REALLY A STRONG FIT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND WITH THE HISTORIC REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED AND ALSO JUST THE MINIMUM OF SUBTERRANEAN PARKING POTENTIAL THAT COULD BE THERE TO ACTUALLY HELP THIS EVENT SPACE IN, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND LOOKING AT SPECULATIVE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE HERE.
BUT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO LIVE HERE, THESE EVENTS ATTRACT A LOT OF PEOPLE AND ACCESS TO THEM BECOMES PROBLEMATIC WHEN YOU CAN'T PARK YOUR CAR ANYWHERE AND THE NEIGHBORS GET UPSET.
THESE PEOPLE WORK REALLY HARD TO TRY TO BALANCE ALL OF THAT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I AGREE
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THAT BUILDING A PROPERTY THERE THAT DOES HAVE ACTIVE RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, WHATEVER, WILL HELP MCGEE PARK BECAUSE THERE WILL BE THES THERE.I'M ALSO VERY HAPPY THAT YOU'RE PRESERVING THE TREES ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, BUT I'M STRUGGLING TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE COMPANIES THAT ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN CARLSBAD.
I ALWAYS MAKE IT A POINT TO APPLAUD THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUTTING THEIR CAPITAL AT RISK AND TO PUT INTO WORK TO MAKE A PROJECT LIKE THIS COME TO LIFE.
IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
I THINK YOUR PARKING PLAN IS VERY SOLID.
YOU HAVE PARTNERS. IT'S WELL THOUGHT OUT.
THERE'S A VERY CLEAR NEED FOR THE SPACE.
IT'S A LOVELY BUILDING, A BIG UPGRADE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I INTEND TO APPROVE THE PROJECT.
>> I THINK THE PROJECT ITSELF FROM ITS DESIGN, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THE TYPE OF FACILITY THAT IT IS GOING TO BE AND PROVIDING A VENUE OF THAT NATURE AND RIGHT IN THE VILLAGE IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
I REALLY THINK THAT AND OF COURSE, YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS, ETC.
I JUST THINK THAT IT'S A PROJECT THAT IS NEEDED AND HAS BEEN NEEDED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND I THINK THE DESIGN OF IT IS VERY CREATIVE, AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OCEAN VIEWS, WHICH MAKES IT EVEN MORE ENTICING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF HAVING PEOPLE WANTING TO RENT THE SPACE.
THE PARKING WAS AN ISSUE FOR ME, BUT I THINK GIVEN THE MITIGATIONS THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED CAN HELP SUBSTANTIALLY IN THAT REGARD.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROJECT MOVING AHEAD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
>> IF WE DO A MOTION, WOULD THE MOTION BE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION READS ON THE SCREEN?
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, AS DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HUBINGER. MAY I HAVE A SECOND.
>> SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FOSTER.
>> PASSES FIVE WITH A NO VOTE. THANK YOU.
I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
STAFF. I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.
[2. CARLSBAD OCEAN ESTATES (LOT 1) - CDP2024-0030 (DEV02030) ]
>> BEFORE YOU GO THERE. MR. STRONG, CAN I ASK EX PARTE?
>> I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE AS WELL. MR. STRONG.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MEENES. ITEMS 2, 3, AND 4 RELATE TO THE SAME PROJECT.
IT'S BROKEN INTO THREE DIFFERENT PIECES FOR SEPARATE ACTION.
THE FIRST IS LOT 1 OF CARLSBAD OCEAN ESTATES, AND HERE TO PRESENT THE ITEM AS SENIOR PLANNER EDWARD VALENZUELA.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
ITEM 2 ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS CARLSBAD OCEAN ESTATES LOT 1, A REQUEST FOR A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
PROJECT IS LOCATED ON A 0.37 ACRE LOT AT 1115 HOOVER STREET IN THE ONE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND THE MELLO II SEGMENT OF THE COASTAL ZONE.
THE PROJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS TO THE NORTH EAST AND WEST.
DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE SITE ARE VACANT LOTS WITH PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALSO ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
PREVIOUSLY, THE SITE WAS A LOT 1 OF A THREE LOT SINGLE FAMILY HOME SUBDIVISION APPROVED IN 2003.
THE LOTS WERE SUBDIVIDED, BUT THE HOMES WERE NEVER BUILT.
THE SITE HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY ROUGH GRADED AND IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS CURB,
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GUTTER, CURB OUTLETS, AND A DRIVEWAY APPROACH WERE CONSTRUCTED.UNDER THE NEW COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, NEW ARCHITECTURE IS BEING PROPOSED AT THE SITE.
THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 5,322 SQUARE FOOT, 28', 8'' TALL, TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, INCLUDING A 903 SQUARE FOOT ATTACHED THREE CAR GARAGE.
THE NEW FAMILY RESIDENCE IS ORIENTED TOWARDS HOOVER STREET AND WILL INCLUDE FOUR BEDROOMS, FOUR AND ONE HALF BATHROOMS, AND TWO SECOND FLOOR DECKS, MEASURING 331 SQUARE FEET, AND 126 SQUARE FEET.
THE RESIDENTS WILL BE 28' AND 8 " TALL.
ARCHITECTURALLY, THE NEW RESIDENCE REFLECTS A CONTEMPORARY DESIGN WITH THE USE OF BUILDING MATERIALS SUCH AS WOOD STYLED ALUMINUM CLADDING, CREAM PAINTED STUCCO, STONE VENEER, WOOD ENTRY DOORS WITH GLASS PANELS, ALUMINUM AND GLASS GARAGE DOORS, STEEL TRELLIS AND COLUMNS, BRONZE COLORED ALUMINUM FRAMED WINDOWS, AND A GRAY STANDING SEA METAL ROOF.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO MODIFY ENGINEERING CONDITION NUMBER 3, WHICH ADDRESSES MAINTENANCE OF SHARED PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS.
CURRENTLY, THE PLANS HAVE SHARED IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING A WALL OVER SHARED PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN LOTS 1 AND 2.
THE CONDITION CALLS FOR CC&RS AND OTHER RECORDING AGREEMENT TO ADDRESS MAINTENANCE OF SUCH IMPROVEMENTS.
HOWEVER, IF ALL IMPROVEMENTS ARE RELOCATED TO BE COMPLETELY WITHIN THE PROPERTY, THEN THE CC&RS OR RECORD AGREEMENT WILL NOT BE NEEDED.
THESE MINOR CHANGES, INCLUDING SHIFTING THE LOCATION OF THE WALL OVER A FEW INCHES.
OF SHARED PROPERTY LINES CAN BE ADDRESSED AT THE CITY PLANNER DECISION MAKING LEVEL THROUGH A CONSISTENCY DETERMINATION APPLICATION.
STAFF REQUESTS THAT THE CHANGES ARE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD IN MOTION, MODIFYING ENGINEERING CONDITION NUMBER 3.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND FINDS THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PREPARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS PURSUANT TO CEQA GUIDELINE SECTION 15303(A), NEW CONSTRUCTION OF CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES WHICH EXEMPTS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDE RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
A DRAFT NOTICE OF EXEMPTION IS INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT 5 OF THE STAFF REPORT FOR CONSIDERATION.
THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL RELEVANT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE R-4 GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE R-1-15000 ZONE, AND THE MELLO II SEGMENT OF THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.
THE TWO STORY STRUCTURE WILL NOT OBSTRUCT VIEWS OF THE COASTLINE AS SEEN FROM PUBLIC LANDS OR THE PUBLIC WIDER WAY.
NO OTHERWISE DAMAGE THE VISUAL OF THE COASTAL ZONE.
NO SENSITIVE RESOURCES, GEOLOGICAL INSTABILITY, FLOOD HAZARD, OR COASTAL ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES EXIST ON SITE.
FOR THE REASONS SPECIFIED HERE AND IN THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CEQA EXEMPTION DETERMINATION AND THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION IN REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM?
>> THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER ARE HERE, AS LONG WITH THE ARCHITECT.
THEY WILL NOT BE MAKING A PRESENTATION, BUT THEY ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
>> I WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
MINUTES, CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SLIPS?
>> THANK YOU. I WILL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
STAFF. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
>> HOW LONG HAVE THESE LOTS BEEN VACANT PRIOR TO 2003, WHICH IS WHEN YOU SAID THE GRADING PERMIT WAS APPROVED?
>> YES. THE GRADING PERMIT WAS APPROVED, I BELIEVE IN 2018.
THEY HAVE BEEN THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT WAS APPROVED IN 2003, THE GRADING PERMIT IN 2018.
THE LOTS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VACANT.
>> ALWAYS VACANT. I NEVER HAD A HOUSE ON IT DEVELOPED ANYTHING?
>> INTERESTING. THEREFORE, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR LOTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN GRADED BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION UNDER CEQA.
>> YES. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
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>> OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.
>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, SINCE THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I DID WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING IN THE RECORD THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CORRECTED.
UNDER THE FINDING SECTION, SO THIS IS ON PAGE 6 OF 41 OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, SUBDIVISION D. JUST MAKING CLEAR THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVES CDP 2024-0030.
IT CURRENTLY IS MISSING THE WORD APPROVES.
JUST PART OF THE FINAL ACTION WHEN THE MOTION IS MADE, ASKING FOR THAT CORRECTIVE ACTION AS WELL AS THE ADDITION TO THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER 3 TO THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE STAFF PLANNER.
>> DISCUSSION AMONG COMMISSIONERS IN REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM NUMBER 2.
COMMENTS IN REGARD TO POSITIONS IN THIS APPLICANTS ITEM NUMBER 2, COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD.
>> YEAH. IT SEEMS TO CHECK ALL THE BOXES, AND I REALLY HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE THAT THE LOT IS BEING FURTHER SUBDIVIDED TO PROVIDE MORE DENSITY, MORE HOUSING OPTIONS, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT DOES INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT CAN BE IN THAT AREA.
>> COMMISSIONER, THE LOT IS NOT BEING FURTHER SUBDIVIDED.
IT WAS RECORDED AS A LEGAL LOT IN 2018 AS A RESULT OF THAT THE MINOR SUBDIVISION THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2004, THE CDP IN 2003.
AND THE PROJECT IS CONDITIONED TO PAY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND LU FEE.
>> IT SAYS ON PAGE 3 THAT IT'S ONLY $10,231, IS THAT? I THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD REVISED THAT PARTICULAR IN LU FEE AT SOME POINT, THE COUNCIL.
>> I BELIEVE THAT MAYBE THE 2024, 2025 FEE, THE FEE MAY HAVE GONE UP SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR WHICH WENT INTO EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST.
I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE CONDITIONED TO PAY THE HOUSING A LU FEE IN EFFECT THAT THE BUILDING PERMIT IS PULLED.
I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DID REVISE HOUSING AND LU FEES, BUT I BELIEVE THOSE WERE FOR NOT FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
I BELIEVE THE BIGGER INCREASES WERE FOR MULTIPLE UNITS.
>> I'M GLAD THIS SPACE IS BEING UTILIZED AND I SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION AMONGST COMMISSIONERS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION IN REGARD TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2? COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD MAKES THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO YOU WANT TO READ WHAT THE MOTION WILL BE?
>> WHAT PAGE IS IT LISTED ON? IT'S NOT ON THE SCREEN?
>> IT'S IN REGARD TO THE AMENDED MOTION THAT MR. STRONG HAD MENTIONED.
>> I MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT THAT MR. STRONG HAS MENTIONED.
>> MAY I HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER BURROWS, SECONDS.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BURROWS. PLEASE VOTE.
I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA NUMBER 3.
[3. CARLSBAD OCEAN ESTATES (LOT 2) CDP2024-0031 (DEV02030)]
FIRST, EX PARTE ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONERS.>> I DROVE BY THE SITE AS WELL.
>> YES. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE SECOND LOT OF THE OCEAN ESTATES PROJECT.
THIS IS TO BE PRESENTED BY SENIOR PLANNER EDWARD VALENZUELA.
>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS.
ITEM 3 ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS CARLSBAD OCEAN ESTATES,
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LOT 2, A REQUEST FOR A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.PREVIOUSLY, THE SITE WAS LOT 2 OF A THREE LOT SINGLE FAMILY HOME SUBDIVISION APPROVED IN 2003.
THE LOTS WERE SUBDIVIDED, BUT THE HOMES WERE NEVER BUILT.
THE SITE HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY RECREATED AND IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS CURB GUTTER, CURBS ALLEYS, AND A DRIVEWAY APPROACH WERE CONSTRUCTED.
UNDER THE NEW COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, NEW ARCHITECTURE IS BEING PROPOSED AT THE SITE.
THE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS ORIENTED TOWARDS ADAM STREET AND WILL INCLUDE FOUR BEDROOMS, FOUR AND ONE HALF BATHS, 914 SQUARE FOOT BASEMENT, A A 323 SQUARE FOOT FIRST FLOOR DECK, AND 2120 SQUARE FOOT SECOND FLOOR DECKS.
BUILDING MATERIALS WILL INCLUDE CREAM PAINTED STUCCO, STONE VENEER AROUND THE ENTRY, AND LOWER PORTION OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS, WOOD GARAGE AND ENTRY DOORS WITH GLASS PANELS, WOOD COLUMNS, TWEED COLORED ALUMINUM FRAME WINDOWS, WOOD TRELLIS, AND A ZINC, GRAY STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF.
THE [INAUDIBLE] IS REQUESTING TO MODIFY ENGINEERING CONDITION 3, WHICH ADDRESSES MAINTENANCE OF SHARED PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS.
CURRENTLY, THE PLANS HAVE SHARED IMPROVEMENTS BETWEEN THE LOTS, WALLS OVER SHARED PROPERTY LINES BETWEEN LOTS 1, 2, AND 3.
THE CONDITION CALLS FOR CC&RS OR ANOTHER RECORDED AGREEMENT TO ADDRESS MAINTENANCE OF SUCH IMPROVEMENTS.
HOWEVER, IF ALL IMPROVEMENTS ARE RELOCATED TO COMPLETELY WITHIN THE PROPERTY, THEN THE CC&RS OR RECORDED AGREEMENT WILL NOT BE NEEDED.
THESE MINOR CHANGES, INCLUDING SHIFTING THE LOCATION OF WALLS OVER A COUPLE OF INCHES.
OF SHARE PROPERTY LINES CAN BE ADDRESSED AT THE CITY PLANNER OR DECISION MAKING LEVEL THROUGH A CONSISTENCY DETERMINATION APPLICATION.
STAFF REQUESTS THAT THE CHANGES ARE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD IN MOTION MODIFYING ENGINEERING CONDITION NUMBER 3.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND FINDS THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PREPARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS PURSUANT TO CEQA GUIDELINE SECTION 15303A, NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES WHICH EXEMPTS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
A DRAFT NOTICE OF EXEMPTION IS INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT 5 OF THE STAFF REPORT FOR CONSIDERATION.
THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL RELEVANT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE R-4 GENERAL PLAN L LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE R-1-15000 ZONE, AND THE MELLO II SEGMENT OF THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.
THE TWO STORY STRUCTURE WILL NOT OBSTRUCT VIEWS OF THE COASTLINE AS SEEN FROM PUBLIC LANDS OR THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, NOR OTHERWISE DAMAGE THE VISUAL BEAUTY OF THE COASTAL ZONE.
NO SENSITIVE RESOURCES, GEOLOGIC INSTABILITY, FLOOD HAZARD OR COASTAL ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES EXIST ON SITE.
FOR THE REASONS SPECIFIED HERE, AND IN THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CEQA DETERMINATION AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS ON CARLSBAD OCEAN STATES LOT 2.
>> WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON AGENDA NUMBER 3? MR. VALENZUELA.
>> APOLOGIZE. NO, THEY ARE HERE FOR QUESTIONS, THOUGH, THE PROPERTY OWNER.
>> VERY FINE. THANK YOU. I'LL NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
>> THANK YOU. I WILL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF IN ITEM NUMBER 3?
>> CHAIR, IF I MAY. PRIOR TO THE FIRST MOTION BEING MADE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RECORD SHOWS THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR AMENDING CONDITION NUMBER 3 IN THE ENGINEERING SECTION.
EDWARD, IF YOU COULD PULL THAT UP, JUST SO IT'S PART OF THE RECORD.
EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT SEEM REDUNDANT SINCE THE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY SEEN IT IN THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A CLEAR RECORD. THANK YOU.
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>> HERE'S THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT ARE MADE AS AN ALTERNATIVE IF THE PROJECT PROPONENT IS ABLE TO ELIMINATE SHARED PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE CONSISTENT DETERMINATION AND LIMITED DISTURBANCE SO THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK IS CONTAINED ON THE SUBJECT SITE, THEN THE CCNRS OR OTHER RECORDED MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS FOR SUCH IMPROVEMENTS WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER 3. OKAY. WITH THAT? MAY I HAVE A MOTION? YOU HAVE THE MOTION IN FRONT OF YOU.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION IN REGARD TO YOUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3? COMMISSIONER BURROWS.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE PROJECT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, INCLUDING MODIFIED ENGINEERING CONDITION NUMBER 3.
>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A SECOND.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BURROWS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HUBER.
PLEASE VOTE. 60. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[4. CARLSBAD OCEAN ESTATES (LOT 3) CDP2024-0029 (DEV02030)]
I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 4.FIRST, EX PARTE CONVERSATIONS IN REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
>> ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER BURROWS.
DROVE BY THE SITE. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
>> FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE. COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE].
>> AND I DROVE BY THE SITE AS WELL.
>> MR. STRONG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT ITEM NUMBER 4?
THE FOURTH AGENDA ON THE SITE'S EVENING IS THE CARLS BETA STATES SLOT 3, AND HERE TO PRESENT THE ITEM IS SENIOR PINTER EDWARD VENEZUELA.
>> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS CARLS BED OCEANS ESTATE LOT 3, A REQUEST FOR A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON A 0.38 ACRE LOT AT 4340 ADAM STREET IN THE ONE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND THE MELO TWO SEGMENT OF THE COASTAL ZONE.
THE PROJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS TO THE EAST AND WEST.
DIRECTLY NORTH ARE VACANT LOTS WITH PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALSO ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
PREVIOUSLY, THE SITE WAS LOT 3 OF A THREE LOT SINGLE FAMILY HOME SUBDIVISION APPROVED IN 2003.
THE LOTS WERE SUBDIVIDED, BUT THE HOMES WERE NEVER BUILT.
THE SITE HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY UPGRADED AND IMPROVEMENT SUCH AS CURB GUTTER, CURB OUTLETS, AND DRIVEWAY APPROACH WERE CONSTRUCTED.
UNDER THE NEW COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, NEW ARCHITECTURE IS BEING PROPOSED AT THE SITE.
THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 5,787 SQUARE FOOT, 27 FEET, TWO INCH TALL, TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, INCLUDING A 1,397 SQUARE FOOT ATTACHED THREE CAR GARAGE.
THE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS ORIENTED TOWARDS ADAM STREET AND WILL INCLUDE FOUR BEDROOMS, FOUR AND ONE HALF BATHROOMS, IN 14 SQUARE FOOT BASEMENT, A 323 SQUARE FOOT FIRST FLOOR DECK, AND 2120 SQUARE FOOT SECOND FLOOR DECKS.
THE RESIDENTS WILL BE 27 FEET AND 2 " TALL, AND ARCHITECTURALLY, THE NEW RESIDENCE REFLECTS A MEDITERRANEAN DESIGN.
BUILDING MATERIALS INCLUDE CREAM PAINTED STUCCO, STONE VENEER, AROUND THE ENTRY AND LOWER PORTION OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS, WOOD GARAGE AND ENTRY DOORS WITH CLASS PANELS, CONCRETE COLUMNS, TWEED COLORED ALUMINUM FRAME WINDOWS, WITH TRELLIS, AND A TERRA COTTA MAROON, AND BROWN TILE ROOF BLEND.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO MODIFY ENGINEERING CONDITION NUMBER 3, WHICH ADDRESSES MAINTENANCE AND SHARED PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS.
CURRENTLY, THE PLANS HAVE SHARED IMPROVEMENTS BETWEEN THE LOT, INCLUDING A WALL THAT IS OVER THE SHARED PROPERTY LINES BETWEEN LOTS 3 AND THREE.
THE CONDITION CALLS FOR CC&RS AND ANOTHER RECORD AGREEMENT TO ADDRESS MAINTENANCE OF SUCH IMPROVEMENTS.
HOWEVER, IF ALL IMPROVEMENTS ARE RELOCATED TO BE COMPLETELY WITHIN THE PROPERTY, THEN THE CC&RS OR RECORDED AGREEMENT WILL NOT BE NEEDED.
THESE MINOR CHANGES, INCLUDING SHIFTING THE LOCATION OF A WALL OVER A COUPLE OF INCHES.
OF SHARED PROPERTY LINES CAN BE ADDRESSED AT THE CITY PLANNER DECISION MAKING LEVEL THROUGH A CONSISTENCY DETERMINATION APPLICATION.
STAFF REQUESTS THAT THE CHANGES ARE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD IN MOTION, MODIFYING ENGINEERING CONDITION 3.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND FINDS THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PREPARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS PURSUANT TO CEQA GUIDELINE SECTION 15303 A,
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NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES, WHICH EXEMPTS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.A DRAFT NOTICE EXEMPTION IS INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT FIVE OF THE STAFF REPORT FOR CONSIDERATION.
THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL RELEVANT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE R4 GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE R115000 ZONE, AND THE MELO TWO SEGMENT OF THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM.
THE TWO STORY STRUCTURE WILL NOT OBSTRUCT VIEWS OF THE COASTLINE AS SEEN FROM PUBLIC LANDS OR THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY, NOR OTHERWISE DAMAGE THE VISUAL BEAUTY OF THE COASTAL ZONE.
NO SENSITIVE RESOURCES, GEOLOGICAL INSTABILITY, FLOOD HAZARD, OR COASTAL ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES EXIST ON SITE.
FOR THE REASONS SPECIFIED HERE AND IN THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SEQA EXEMPTION DETERMINATION AND THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION, AND I'M NOW AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. MR. VENEZUELA, IS THE APPLICANT WANTING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON ITEM NUMBER 4?
>> NO, BUT THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. I WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
MINUTES CLERK. IS THERE ANY SLIPS FOR ITEM NUMBER 4?
>> OKAY. WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY?
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
>> NOW, THE IMAGES YOU SHOWED FOR THE FIRST TWO AND THIS PARTICULAR IMAGE, THE FACADE IMAGES.
THE IMAGES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR STAFF REPORT SHOW BASICALLY THE SAME HOUSE.
ARE THESE STYLISTICALLY THREE DIFFERENT HOUSES OR ARE THEY USING THE SAME BASE PLAN? WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHY ARE THEY SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT? BECAUSE ONE OF THEM LOOK CRAFTS MANI, THE OTHER ONE, YOU DESCRIBED IT AS MEDITERRANEAN.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, ARE THEY GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ARE THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ALL DIFFERENT?
>> YES, I BELIEVE THAT THE HOMES ARE THEY FOLLOW A SIMILAR FLOOR PLAN.
LOTS 2 AND THREE ARE PRETTY SIMILAR EXCEPT FOR THE BUILDING MATERIALS USED FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL FINISHES, AND OF COURSE, THE ONE ON LOT 1 IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IN THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A BASEMENT.
IT'S ON A SLIGHTLY FLATTER LOT THAN THE OTHER TWO.
BUT WE HAVE THE ARCHITECT HERE SO HE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
>> THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> MY NAME IS TOM LAW WITH W L DESIGN ARCHITECT.
I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THAT THREE HOMES.
THE REASON FOR THE CHANGES BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, THE FIRST TIME WE DID A SIMILAR JUST ONLY CONTEMPORARY STYLE.
AND THEN WE WENT WITH THAT STUFF, AND ALSO WE LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING, THEY DO IN THE AREA, YOU DO HAVE CONTEMPORARY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
AND ALSO WE HAVE SEEN SOME MEDITERRANEAN STYLE AND ALSO SOME CRAFTSMEN.
SO THAT'S WHY OUR INTENT IS NOT TO MAKE IT MONONITIC LOOK TO CREATE A DIFFERENT INTEREST FOR THE AREA.
>> SO IT IS INTENTIONAL THAT CHANGING ALL THREE ARE DIFFERENT?
>> OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WASN'T THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT EARLIER.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT'S A NEGATIVE, BUT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DIFFERENT FACADE TREATMENTS ON EACH PARTICULAR HEAL?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE OUT? ANY FURTHER LET'S HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS REGARD, COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD.
>> YEAH. COMMISSIONER BURROWS.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY EITHER.
ANYTHING FOR FUR TO THE DISCUSSION? MAY I HAVE A MOTION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BURROWS.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE PROJECT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, INCLUDING MODIFIED ENGINEERING CONDITION NUMBER 3.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BURROWS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD. PLEASE VOTE.
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APPROVED. 60. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.NOW WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.
[5. FORREST RESIDENCE TAMARACK AVENUE CDP 2025-0004 (DEV2024-0096)]
WE'LL WAIT TILL OUR STAFF MEMBER SITS DOWN AND IS PREPARED.>> HERE THE A CONDITION BILL AGAIN.[LAUGHTER]
>> I'LL NOW OPEN PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER 5.
FIRST, EX PARTE CONVERSATIONS ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
>> AND I DROVE BY THE SITE AS WELL.
MR. STRONG, WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER 5?
THE LAST AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING IS THE FOREST RESIDENTS ON TAMARACK AVENUE, AND HERE TO PRESENT THE ITEM IS SENIOR PLANER GAS AND GOFF.
CHAIRMAN MEANS, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. GOOD EVENING.
THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS LOCATED AT 1640 TAMARACK AVENUE.
THIS 7,894 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY'S COASTAL ZONE, BUT IS NOT WITHIN THE AREA WHERE THE CITY'S DECISION IS APPEALABLE TO THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THE RESULT OF A PREVIOUS THREE LOT SUBDIVISION APPROVED IN 1983, AND THE SITE WAS GRADED IN 1986 FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THE PROJECT SITE HAS BEEN VACANT EVER SINCE AND IS CONSIDERED 100% DISTURBED AS IT RELATES TO HMP HABITAT VALUE.
A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WHICH IF APPROVED WILL ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW 1930 SQUARE FOOT, ONE STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH AN ATTACHED 574 SQUARE FOOT TWO CAR GARAGE.
THE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS ORIENTED TOWARDS TAMARACK AVENUE, AND WILL INCLUDE THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATHROOMS, AND A LOFT OVER THE PRIMARY BEDROOM.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT COMPLIES WITH ALL ZONING STANDARDS RELATED TO THE SITE, SUCH AS BUILDING SETBACKS, LOT COVERAGE, AND OFF STREET PARKING.
HERE FOUR BUILDING ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
PRIMARY BUILDING MATERIALS CONSIST OF STUCCO, BOARD AND BAT AND SIDING, COMPOSITION SHINGLE ROOFING, AND A METAL OVERHEAD GARAGE DOOR.
THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE IS 25 FEET, AND IT IS WORTH MENTIONING THAT WITHIN THE R1 ZONE, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT UP TO 30 FEET.
ADDITION TO THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, STAFF HAS ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE A SEQA EXEMPTION DETERMINATION.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND FINDS THAT THE PROJECT BELONGS TO A CLASS OF PROJECTS THAT ARE CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PREPARATION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE PROPOSED ACTION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH LOFT AND ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE ON AN EXISTING GRADED VACANT LOT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER SEQA SECTION 15303 FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, INCLUDING ACCESSOR, PERTINENT STRUCTURES, SUCH AS AN ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE, PATIOS, AND PERIMETER FENCING, ALL OF WHICH ARE LOCATED ON A RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY SIMILARLY DEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL.
NO EXCEPTIONS TO THE CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION AS SET FORTH IN SEQA GUIDELINE, SECTION 15,300.2 OR CARL'S BAD MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 19.04.070(C) APPLY.
THE NOTICE OF EXEMPTION WILL BE FILED WITH THE RECORDER OR THE COUNTY CLERK WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF PROJECT APPROVAL BY THE DECISION MAKING BODY.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, EXHIBIT 1, APPROVING A SEQA EXEMPTION DETERMINATION AND COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE FOREST RESIDENTS TAMARACK AVENUE, PROJECT AS DESCRIBED IN THE PROJECT STAFF REPORT.
THIS WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, I AM AVAILABLE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. GOFF. CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. COMMISSIONER BURROWS.
>> I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE THE RIGHT PERSON TO ASK, BUT WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN OR ELABORATE ON
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THE PUBLIC COMMENT SUGGESTION THAT THE PROJECT TAKE ACCESS FROM A NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY?>> SURE, I CAN ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE DEVELOPMENT SITE HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE YELLOW LINE, AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SLIDE IS KNOWN AS A FLAG LOT.
SO WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS DEVELOPED, IT WAS PART OF A THREE LOT SUBDIVISION, THAT FLAG LOT INCLUDED.
THE FLAG LOT, THE FLAG IS THE POST PART WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS THAT GOES BACK TO THE HOUSE.
THAT FLAG WAS NOT DESIGNED WITH EASEMENTS IN MIND FOR ACCESSING THE EXIST THE PROPOSED LOT WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED.
IN ADDITION, THERE'S A DRAINAGE VALLEY THAT RUNS DOWN SEPARATING THESE TWO PROPERTIES, WHICH WOULD ALSO NEED TO HAVE SOME FORM OF BRIDGE ABUTMENT THAT WOULD GO ACROSS THAT.
SO AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
IT MAKES SENSE TO ASK TO SUGGEST THAT OR MAKE THAT SUGGESTION THAT A DRIVEWAY ACCESS BE TAKEN OFF THAT, BUT IN SHORT, IT WAS NEVER INTENTIONALLY OR ORIGINALLY DESIGNED THAT WAY, AND THE PROPONENT OR THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO TRY TO GAIN RIGHTS FROM THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO DO SO.
ALL THE LOTS ALONG TAMARACK AVENUE HAVE ACCESS TO TAMARACK AVENUE.
THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM HAVING ACCESS TO TAMARACK AVENUE.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.
>> AND CHAIR, IF I MAY ALSO EXPAND ON THAT.
THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, CITIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RELINQUISH ACCESS RIGHTS TO LIKE FRONTAGE ROADS, IN SOME CASES, ESPECIALLY LIKE ON ARTERIO OR PRIME ARTERIO ROADWAYS, WHERE THERE IS AN, PUBLIC INTEREST TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS.
IN THIS CASE, THE MAP WAS RECORDED AND DIDN'T HAVE THAT SAME RESTRICTION, SO THERE'S NOTHING TO PRECLUDE THE SUBJECT APPLICATION WITH DIRECT ACCESS TO TAMARACK.
>> THANK YOU, MR. STRONG. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.
>> EXCEPT TO BUILD ON THAT, THERE'S A SCHOOL RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT CROSSWALK HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT POINT OF CONTENTION FOR VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL TRYING TO ACCESS THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.
SO I THINK THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED THIS AS A VERY GOOD COMMENT, AND OBVIOUSLY, MR. GILDER GO.
>> MR. GOFF ALSO POINTED IT OUT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND TO MAINTAIN PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS TO LIMIT CURB CUTS.
IS THERE A CURB CUT ON THIS SITE AS IT IS NOW?
>> SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO CREATE A NEW CURB CUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO HAVE KIDS ACCESS SCHOOL SITES BECAUSE VALLEYS RIGHT THERE AND MAGNOLIAS AROUND THE CORNER, HOW DO, AS A COMMUNITY, WE ALLOW THESE PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENTS TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY DEVELOP THEIR PROJECTS, BUT MAYBE MINIMIZE OR SOMEHOW MITIGATE SOME OF THESE CURB CUTS THAT HAPPEN THAT BECOME MORE CONGESTED FOR THE KIDS TRYING TO GET TO SCHOOL AT CERTAIN TIMES OF DAY? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY ARE DOING IN OTHER PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT MAYBE THIS COULD APPLY TO?
>> YEAH, I CAN LET OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING MANAGER SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I KNOW ON A LARGER PROJECT SCOPE, WE CAN CERTAINLY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF CURB CUTS THAT WE HAVE.
BUT WE HAVE AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY LOT HERE THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN 1986 AND HAS SAT VACANT EVER SINCE, SO WE'RE STUCK IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW.
>> I CAN SAY BEFORE MR. GILDER SPEAKS, THIS PROJECT WE DID, WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, AND WE DID HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS TRANSPORTATION DIVISION ALSO REVIEW THAT.
THE FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU SEE HERE HAVE BEEN REVIEWED EXTENSIVELY.
WE'VE DONE FOUR SETS OF REVIEWS ON THIS PROJECT, AND PRIMARILY WAS THE MOST OF IT, THE BULK OF THE DISCUSSION WAS THE FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT.
>> WELL, THAT'S A INTERESTING POINT YOU BRING UP.
AS YOU SAY THAT THE DRIVEWAYS CREATE A CONFLICT AREA,
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MOSTLY WITH OTHER VEHICLES, SOME WITH PEDESTRIANS, SOME WITH BICYCLES.MOST OF THE SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS, WHERE THERE ARE SEVERAL DRIVEWAYS ON THE STREETS LEADING UP.
WHERE WE LOOK TO MAKE THAT SAFER IS WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR SITE VISIBILITY ON THOSE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS, AND IF WE DO GET COMPLAINTS OR HEAR ABOUT THAT, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT, BUT THERE SHOULD BE SOME VISIBILITY.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ON FRONT YARD SETBACKS, THINGS CAN'T BE OVER 42".
WE CAN HAVE WALLS AND FENCES, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS.
ANOTHER IS TAMARACK IS A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL STREET.
IT'S MORE OF A PASS THROUGH AND A RESIDENTIAL STREET, SO YOU DO GET A MIX OF SPEEDS ON THAT STREET.
THIS ONE CURB CUT, I WOULD SAY IT'S NECESSARY.
IT'S AN ACCESS POINT TO THIS LOT AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE WHOLE SCHEME, BUT THAT IS ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO WEIGH IS THE ACCESS TO THESE LOTS, THE PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS, AND THEN THOSE STREETS THE SCHOOLS ARE ON AND THOSE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS COME INTO PLAY ON THAT.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT DOES WHAT WE DO LOOK AT A SITE VISIBILITY AND HOW THEY'RE COMING IN.
IF THERE'S A BETTER PLACE TO PUT THE DRIVEWAY IF WE HAVE A CHOICE, WE WILL OPT FOR THAT, BUT IN THIS CASE, THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM TO MOVE IT AROUND OR PUT IT IN AN OPTIMAL PLACE.
SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DESIGN ONCE IT GOES IN AND MAKE SURE YOU CAN SEE GOING IN AND SEE COMING OUT OF IT.
>> I GUESS THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, THAT INTERSECTION THAT'S A HOUSE AWAY.
THAT INTERSECTION IS TRANSFORMED SEVERAL TIMES NOW AT VALLEY AND TAMARACK.
ARE THERE FUTURE PLANS? WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY PUT A STOP LIGHT IN, THEY STOP THE STOP LIGHT.
I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE SUPER RECENTLY, BUT IT'S A BIG QUESTION MARK BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO JUST ADD TO THE CONFUSION OF THAT INTERSECTION.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS DOING TO TRY AND MITIGATE THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS HOUSE JUST COMPLICATES IT AND NOT HELPS IT. [LAUGHTER]
>> LET ME ASK MR. GOFF A QUESTION HERE.
YES. THERE'S NOTHING I'M AWARE OF ON CHANGING THAT INTERSECTION.
THERE MAY BE SOMETHING IN THE CIP, BUT I'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF FURTHER TRAFFIC COMING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON TAMARACK.
BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING TO GO INTO THAT INTERSECTION AT THIS POINT.
>> BUT THERE'S ALREADY BIKE LANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON THAT STREET, CORRECT?
>> I THINK THE SUGGESTION FROM THE OTHER HOMEOWNER, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE A DRAINAGE SWALE WE'RE CONCERNED WITH, I TEND TO THINK THE FLAG LOT IS MADE FOR THAT PERFECT TRANSITION, BUT TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CURB CUT RIGHT AT THAT CORNER IS A LITTLE TRICKY.
SO I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU.
>> ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. GOFF IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND DOES HE WANT TO MAKE A PRESENTATION?
>> THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE HERE TONIGHT.
THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF WE HAD ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL NOW OPEN PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
MINUTES CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SLIPS?
>> YES, WE HAVE ONE, TIM MORGAN.
>> AS HE APPROACHES, EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS.
TO HELP SPEAKER STAY WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT, MINUTES CLERK WILL ACTIVATE THE LIGHTED TIMER.
THE GREEN LIGHT MEANS SPEAK, YELLOW MEANS YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, AND THE REMAINING BLINKING LIGHT MEANS YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> I LIVE ON VALLEY STREET, NOT ON THE FLAG RIGHT NEXT TO THE FOREST RESIDENTS BEING PROPOSED.
COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY SUMMARIZED THE REASON I'M HERE.
I'M EXCITED TO MEET MY NEW NEIGHBORS OVER HERE, HI.
MY WIFE HAS MET YOU AND THEY SAID NOTHING BUT GREAT THINGS.
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THE REASON I'M HERE TO SUMMARIZE IS PRESERVING THE TREES.THERE ARE CURRENTLY SOME MATURE TREES ON OUR PROPERTY LINE.
THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN, BUT SIX GO ON OUR PROPERTY LINE.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE NEW BUILD.
I ACTUALLY LIKE THE NEW BUILD. THANK YOU.
MUCH BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS OWNER OF THE APPLEBEE'S, WHICH WAS A TWO STORY GRANNY FLAT AND A GARAGE.
IT WAS GOING TO BE A SITE OF SORE EYES THERE.
I'D JUST LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSIONER WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER MYSELF TO REACH AN AGREEMENT THAT SOME OF THE TREES TO REMAIN IN PLACE.
AS YOU KNOW, THE MATURE TREES OFFER SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY, PRIVACY, NATURAL BARRIERS, AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE AESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE TREES, THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, SHADE, COOLING, LOWERING WINTER HEAT BILLS, AND ALSO HELPS INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUES.
ON A PARTICULAR NOTE, THERE'S A SWEET GUM TREE LOCATED IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY IN THE NORTH WEST OF THE PROPERTY.
IT PROVIDES AMPLE SHADE, ENSURES YEAR ROUND PRIVACY, AND SERVES AS AN IMPORTANT FEATURE OF THE LANDSCAPE.
SO I'M EAGER TO COLLABORATE WITH THE OWNERS AND COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONS' SOLUTION TO FIND BALANCES NECESSARY WITH THE LONG-TERM BENEFITS THAT THE TREES PROVIDE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR REQUEST TO PRESERVE AS MANY OF THE MATURE TREES AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY THE SWEETGUM TREE AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
SINCE I HAVE 40 SECONDS LEFT, I'M GOING TO PARLAY OFF OF THIS LIGHT.
THE NEIGHBORS, WE'VE FOUGHT THIS FOR YEARS, AND WE LOST THE FIGHT TO THE ORIGINAL.
IT'S NOT A TRAFFIC CALMING PER THE TRANSPORTATION CODES, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS AND CARS SPEED THROUGH IT.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, AND I WISH WE COULD HAVE CHANGED IT TO THE BLINKING LIGHT, BUT THAT WAS A FIGHT WE LOST, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. MINUTES CLERK, ANY FURTHERS WITNESS?
>> I WILL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THE STATEMENTS MADE BY THE APPLICANT? ARE YOU THE APPLICANT?
>> UP TO THE PODIUM, AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
>> AMY FORREST. DO I HAVE TO TURN IT ON? I THINK IT'S WORKING NOW. HI, AMY FORREST.
MY HUSBAND AND I RAISED OUR KIDS IN ENCINITAS, AND THEN WE'RE LIVING IN PHILADELPHIA FOR FOUR YEARS FOR FAMILY REASONS AND ARE COMING BACK TO SIERRA, AND WE'RE THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO BE IN CARLSBAD.
WE HAD BIDS FROM THREE ARBORISTS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP AS MANY OF THE TREES AS POSSIBLE.
ALL THREE OF THE ARBORISTS CAME BACK WITH THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION ABOUT THE TREES THAT WERE ON THAT PROPERTY LINE, THE SECOND.
THERE'S A SWEETGUM IN THE BACK CORNER THAT BECAUSE IT WAS, I THINK, A LARGE BRANCH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THIS, THE FLAG LOT, [LAUGHTER] THE BRANCH FELL ON THE FLAG LOT.
BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT GUY, I THINK, CUT OFF, LOPPED OFF PART OF THAT SWEET GUM THAT'S IN THE CORNER, WHICH IS VERY LUSH.
BUT APPARENTLY, THE ARBORIST SAYS IT'S NOT FEASIBLE THE WAY THAT IT WAS CUT DOWN, THE ROOT BASE RESPONDS IN SOME WAY, IT'S ARBORIST LANGUAGE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THE ARBORIST REPORTS WITH MY NEIGHBOR AS WELL.
THE SECOND SWEETGUM IN IS THE TALLEST AND THAT TREE WE ARE RETAINING EVEN THOUGH IT'S CREATING SOME HEADACHE FOR GRADING.
THEN THERE'S AN ASH TREE THAT'S QUITE TALL, BUT APPARENTLY HAS A POOR ROOT SYSTEM AND ALL THE ARBORISTS RESPONDED WITH THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT ONE TOO, WHICH WAS THAT WE SHOULD TAKE IT DOWN.
THEN THERE'S SOME SHRUBBERY IN THE FRONT THAT RATHER THAN BEING MATURE TREES, THERE'S LIKE A POMEGRANATE AND A EUCALYPTUS AND SOMETHING ELSE.
WE'D PROBABLY KEEP THEM, BUT THEY DO ENCROACH.
THOSE ARE ONES THAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO REMOVE BECAUSE OF SIDE YARD STUFF FOR THE GARAGE.
THEN ACTUALLY MANY TREES ARE CALLED FOR IN OUR PLANTINGS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ULTIMATELY HAVE INCORPORATE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE.
THAT WILL BE BIGGER OVER TIME.
A COUPLE OF THEM, WE'RE HOPING TO SOURCE AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE TO SOMEWHAT
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MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS OF THE FEW THAT WE COULDN'T KEEP BECAUSE OF ARBORIST REPORTS. THANK YOU.>> CAN I SAY ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THE FLAG LOT.
WE DID APPROACH THAT NEIGHBOR, AND THE PROPERTY IS BEING RENTED.
WE TALKED TO THE REALTOR OF THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE HOUSE, AND HE WAS COMING WHEN WE ACTUALLY ASKED BEFORE WE STARTED DESIGNS, ACCESS THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE IDEALLY SHARED DRIVEWAY.
HE MADE IT CLEAR. ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO JOIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY CAUSING PROBLEMS, BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. WOULD STAFF LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY STATEMENTS MADE?
>> NO, I THINK MS. FORREST COVERED IT ALL.
I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR FLAG LOTS.
IS IT ONLY FOR CREATION OF FLAG LOTS OR DO FLAG LOTS HAVE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO OTHER LOTS?
>> THE ZONING CODE DOES DISCUSS ORIENTATION OF FLAG LOTS AND WHEN TWO PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE ACCESSED OFF OF THEM AS FAR AS HOW BIG THE FLAG SHOULD BE.
ON THIS ONE, IN PARTICULAR, MORE OF THE ISSUE IS THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NEVER ACCESS GRANTED TO THIS LOT FROM THAT LOT AS PART OF THE MAP AND THE DRAINAGE SWALE THAT EXISTS THROUGH IT.
>> YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THIS IS TYPICALLY DONE WHEN THE LOT IS ACTUALLY CREATED? [OVERLAPPING]
>> AND THE EASEMENTS ARE THERE.
>> THERE'S NO PARTICULAR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OWNERS THAT LIVE BEHIND THOSE OR LIVE IN THE BACK OF THOSE FLAG LOTS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ACCESS AT ALL ONCE IT'S DONE, EVEN IF THE DEVELOPMENT HASN'T HAPPENED, IT SEEMS.
>> NO. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT OR NEXUS FOR THAT.
ONCE THEY HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GRANT EASEMENTS TO THEIR NEIGHBORS.
>> JUST A QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION.
I'M LOOKING AT MY PHOTOS OF THE TREES, AND I NOTICED THAT DRAINAGE ENDPOINT AT THE SOUTH EAST CORNER.
IS THAT COVERED BY THEIR PROPERTY LINE, OR AM I MISREADING THIS MAP? IT'S THAT TRIANGULAR STRUCTURE DOWN THERE.
JUST WANT TO CONFIRM IF THAT WAS BUILT ON THEIR PROPERTY LOT.
>> YOU SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE DRAINAGE IS CROSSING THE LOT?
>> YEAH, I COULD BE MISREADING THAT SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S SHOWING, BUT WE COULD SEE IF THERE'S AN EASEMENT OF SOME SORT OR SOMETHING.
WE COULD CHECK INTO THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT THAT'S REPRESENTING JUST NOW.
MAYBE THE OWNERS HAVE THE IDEA.
>> AMY FORREST. IT IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THE WAY THAT IT ACTUALLY WORKS IS I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY FEET IT IS SPECIFICALLY, I WANT TO SAY LIKE SEVEN, MAYBE.
THERE'S THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S CONCRETE, AND THEN THERE'S ABOUT FOUR FEET OF JUST EARTH THAT BELONGS TO THE NEIGHBOR.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY, THE WAY THAT THE PROPERTY LINE COMES DOWN, THIS SHOULD BE MAPPED RIGHT ON TOP OF THE CIVIL PLAN.
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IN THE SIDEWALK, THERE'S A MANHOLE COVER.
THE MANHOLE COVER IS ACTUALLY ON OUR PROPERTY.
I THINK THE PROPERTY LINE COMES DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT LITTLE RECTANGLE WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE ANGLE THING ON THERE.
THERE'S DRIVEWAY EARTH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DRAINAGE THING,
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PART OF THE LOWER LEFT CORNER OF THE TRIANGLE.THIS PART RIGHT HERE IS ON OUR PROPERTY, BUT THE BULK OF THE DRAINAGE THING THAT GOES INTO THE SEWER IS PART OF THAT NEIGHBORS EASEMENT THING, AND WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THAT THING WORKS.
ACTUALLY, I THINK THESE GUYS MAYBE HAVE MORE CLARITY BASED ON THE PLANS.
>> BUT IT JUST COME DOWN TO THE MIDDLE
>> APPRECIATE IT. MR. FITZGERALD, THE PART THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, DRAINAGE DOES CROSS THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
>> IT'S RIGHT HERE AT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. IF YOU CAN SEE MINE.
>> THAT WORKS FOR ME. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MR. GILDER. FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH COMMISSIONERS OR QUESTIONS OF STAFF, COMMISSIONER BURROWS.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, I APPRECIATE MR. MORGAN FOR MAKING HIS PUBLIC COMMENT AND FOR THE REPLY FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? I THINK COMMISSIONER FOSTER.
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 84. IT'S THE AERIAL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, THERE'S ONLY ONE FLAG LOT IN THE ENTIRE AREA AND IS THE FLAG BEHIND THIS PARCEL.
TYPICALLY WHEN DEVELOPERS DEVELOP MULTIPLE PARCELS, IN THE EVENT THEY CREATE A FLAG.
THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE AN EASEMENT AND THAT RECORD EASEMENT IS GOING TO GRANT ACCESS RIGHTS TO PARCELS ADJACENT TO THE FLAG LOT.
THIS IS HAPPENING HERE WHERE THAT ADJACENT PARCEL DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS RIGHTS.
I'VE NEGOTIATED DOZENS OF THESE ACCESS EASEMENT AGREEMENTS OVER THE YEARS, AND THE FLAG LOT HOLDER HOLDS ALL THE CARDS.
I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY HERE IS THAT THERE'S A FEW THINGS.
ONE, I THINK THE FORREST FAMILY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY IN AND OUT OF THEIR HOME.
I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE ANY REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE AN ACCESS OR SOMEHOW NEGOTIATE AN ACCESS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A BAD SPOT IN THAT CONVERSATION.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY COMMENT.
IT'S JUST I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT AS FAR AS THE DRIVEWAY THING IS CONCERNED, THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE IN ANY POSITION TO CONDITION THAT THEY PURSUE AN EASEMENT WITH THE ADJACENT FLAG LOT HOLDER OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
>> ALTHOUGH, I GUESS HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN ALL THE RUNOFF FROM THEIR PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY?
>> THAT'S AN ISSUE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THEY COULD WORK HOME.
>> BUT DOESN'T IT GO INTO A CITY CATCH BASIN AND MANHOLE?
>> EVENTUALLY, IT DOES GO INTO THE CITY'S SYSTEM.
I'M NOT SURE HOW IT GETS THERE.
I DIDN'T TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THE GRADING PLANS.
BUT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GO ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY, THEY CAN WORK IT OUT WITH THAT OWNER.
>> YES. THEY SHOULD WORK IT OUT.
>> THE PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T ALWAYS WORK IT OUT.
THERE'S ACTUALLY CASE LAW IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD OF SHARED DRIVEWAY ACCESS WHERE BOTH NEIGHBORS SUIT EACH OTHER.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE ISSUE WITH SHARED DRIVEWAYS.
IS LIKE NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO SEE EYE ON EYE.
ALSO PROPERTIES CHANGE HAND OVER THE YEARS.
MAYBE THE NEIGHBORS, MAYBE THEY'RE ALL FRIENDLY AND PLAY NICE IN THE SANDBOX RIGHT NOW, BUT 5, 10, 20 YEARS, THAT PROPERTY CHANGES HANDS, AND MAYBE THE NEW NEIGHBOR ISN'T SO FRIENDLY.
AGAIN, THE FORREST FAMILY GETS PEACE OF MIND IF THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY AND DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON ACCESS VIA THE ADJACENT PARCEL.
>> THANK YOU, MR. FOSTER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEE NONE, I WILL REQUEST TO HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER BURROWS.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE PROJECT AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
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>> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BURROWS. MAY I HAVE A SECOND?
>> COMMISSIONER HUBINGER, SECONDS.
I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
MR. MERZ, MR. GILDER. WE APPRECIATE.
IS THERE ANY COMMENTARY AND OR REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATIONS OF
[COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
MATTERS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER FOSTER?>> YES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SB 79 WAS JUST PASSED, I THINK, WHAT FRIDAY IN THE ASSEMBLY.
IT'S GOING IN FRONT OF NEWSOM AND HE'S GOING TO ACCORDING TO AI HAS 80% CHANCE OF SIGNING IT.
MY QUESTION SPECIFICALLY FOR STAFF.
I WAS JUST RESEARCHING IT TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
THIS IS PRETTY OUT OF MY PAY GRADE.
I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS FOR VERBATIM IT'S EASIER.
IT SAYS, PROJECTS THAT MEET SB 79 REQUIREMENTS COULD GET MINISTERIAL OR MORE EXPEDITED APPROVALS, THAT COULD REDUCE TIME AND UNCERTAINTY FOR DEVELOPERS BUILDING NEAR TRANSIT.
IN OTHER LANGUAGE TO MY UNDERSTANDING OF SB 79 IS THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW HEIGHT LIMIT IN THE VILLAGE IN THE EVENT THAT IT PASSES, NEWSOM SIGNS IT.
IF THE VILLAGE HEIGHT LIMIT IS X, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT'S 40 OR 45 FEET, WITH SB 79 PASSING, THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE TO A HIGHER HEIGHT.
MY QUESTION IS, WHEN I WAS DOING MY RESEARCH, IT SAID, DOES THE CITY ADOPT A TOD ALTERNATIVE PLAN TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIVE EFFECTS? THEN WOULD WE END UP GOING DOWN THE ROAD OF REVIEWING AND POSSIBLY UPDATING THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN AND ZONING DESIGN STANDARDS TO ALIGN WITH SB 79 AND WITH THE IDEA TO RETAIN MORE LOCAL CONTROL VIA A TOD ALTERNATIVE PLAN? NOW, I'M JUST GOING TO ADMIT, I JUST USED A LOT OF LANGUAGE THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT I JUST GOT FROM AI.
BUT I'M BEING LONG WINDED HERE AND SAYING, AT WHAT TIME DOES STAFF BRIEF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON SB 79? DOES A STAFF WAIT UNTIL IT PASSES AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, NOW IT'S OFFICIAL, NOW WE BRIEF EVERYBODY, OR DOES STAFF SAY THERE'S A REALLY HIGH CHANCE, IT IS GOING TO PASS.
LET'S START GETTING OUR DUCKS IN A ROW RIGHT NOW SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO PLAY OUT.
>> I WOULD SAY ORDINARILY, CITY STAFF WOULD BE REACTIVE TO LEGISLATIVE CHANGES RATHER THAN ANTICIPATING THE CHANGE HAPPENING.
I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT IT'S 80% LIKE THAT IT'S GOING TO PASS.
BUT PRESUMING THAT IT IS, THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE SOME ASSESSMENT OF ITS IMPLICATIONS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
UNDER THE CURRENT READING, AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN THOROUGHLY EXAMINED, SO I'M GIVING VERY HIGH LEVEL FEEDBACK.
BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THE TRANSIT STATIONS THEMSELVES MEET THE RAIL OR THE COMMUTER SERVICE TRAIN DEFINITION BECAUSE THEY REQUIRE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HEADWAY TRIPS.
I THINK IT'S 48 FOR THE TIER 2.
ANOTHER PROVISION THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BILL WAS FOR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT ARE SERVED BY BUS RAPID TRANSIT.
THAT IS ALREADY DEFINED BY THE STATE LEGISLATOR AND THE PUBLIC RESOURCE CODE, AND THAT STIPULATES THAT THE BOARDING AREA IS DEFINED BY SERVICE WITH AN INTERSECTION OF BUSES THAT HAVE 15-MINUTE HEADWAYS.
CURRENTLY, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD DOES NOT HAVE RAPID BUS TRANSIT.
THERE ARE CITIES IN NORTH COUNTY THAT DO, BUT CARLSBAD DOES NOT.
HOWEVER, THE READING OF SB 79 IS BASED ON ITS CURRENT SERVICE LEVEL, SO THAT COULD CHANGE WHEN NCDD CHANGES ITS OPERATIONS.
THE DRAFT REGIONAL PLAN THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED, BUT IT HAS BEEN CIRCULATED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW IN ITS ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW STAGE.
DOES INCLUDE, I THINK THREE OR FOUR FUTURE SERVICE LINES FOR RAPID BUS TRANSIT IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.
WE HAVE NOT EVALUATED THOSE ROUTES TO SEE IF THEY INTERSECT AT ANY SINGLE LOCATION,
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BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.STAFF WILL BE LOOKING AT THE IMPLICATIONS OF SB 79 IF IT DOES PASS.
IN THE EVENT THAT IT DOES, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SEE WHAT EFFORTS CAN BE MADE BY THE CITY TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS, WHETHER IT BE CREATING, WHAT DO YOU SAY TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS.
I'M SURE THERE'S A RANGE OF OPTIONS THAT THE CITY COULD TAKE AND THAT WOULD BE DIRECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.
>> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT TIERS THAT CITIES ARE GOING TO FALL INTO BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TRAIN TRIPS LIKE TO AND FROM.
I THINK WE FALLED IN LIKE TIER 3, BUT ANYWAY.
BUT IT BASICALLY WAS SAYING THAT THE HEIGHT LIMIT IN THAT CITY IS THEREBY INCREASED TO X, Y, AND Z DEPENDING ON WHICH TIER WE FALL IN.
>> CORRECT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OUR CURRENT TRAIN STATIONS WOULD BE TIER 3.
>> THE TIER 2 FACILITIES IN NORTH COUNTY WOULD INCLUDE THE OCEANSIDE, THE INLAND LINE THAT GOES THROUGH VISTA IN SAN MARCOS TO ESCONDIDO.
ALL THOSE BOARDING STATIONS WOULD BE POTENTIALLY IMPACTED BY THIS LEGISLATION.
BUT AS WE SEE IT RIGHT NOW, THE SB 79 WOULDN'T BE IMPACTING THE TRANSIT STATIONS UNDER THAT PROVISION OF THE CODE, BUT IT COULD POTENTIALLY FALL IN OTHER AREAS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT PREPARED A COMPREHENSIVE EXHAUSTIVE ANALYSIS.
THIS IS JUST IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
IF IT DOES PASSES, WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF ITS IMPLICATIONS IN THE CITY.
>> PRETTY THOROUGH ON MR. STRONG. APPRECIATE THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTARIES OR REPORTS BY COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY?
>> JUST A QUESTION FOR MR. STRONG.
THE DRAFT REGIONAL PLAN YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS SANDAGS, CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. SORRY FOR NOT INDICATING IT'S NOT THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.[LAUGHTER] IT'S SANDAGS REGIONAL PLAN.
>> ANY OTHER REPORTS OR COMMENTARY BY COMMISSIONERS? MR. STRONG, DO YOU HAVE ANY REPORT TO PROVIDE TO US THIS EVENING?
[STAFF COMMENTS]
>> NONE OTHER THAN INDICATING THAT WE WILL BE CANCELING THE OCTOBER 1ST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THEN RECONVENING ON OCTOBER 15TH.
>> THANK YOU. HOW ABOUT OUR SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY? ANY COMMENTS?
>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, THIS MEETING STAND IS ADJOURNED AT 7:12. THANK YOU.
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