Feb 03, 2026 City Council Meeting

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IT'S FIVE O'CLOCK. I'M CALLING

[CALL TO ORDER]

PLEASE TAKE A ROLL.

COUNCILMEMBER SHIN. PRESENT.

COUNCILMEMBER, BURKHOLDER.

PRESENT. COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA.

I'M HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM BOB PATEL. HERE. MAYOR BLACKBURN.

PRESENT. ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. NEXT IS THE PLEDGE. I INVITE KALIA.

WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA. CITY COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS. FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC AGENDA, I'M SORRY, NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN MAKING YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY, AND RESPECT. WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY.

HOWEVER, WE ASK... THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY. AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED. THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME. PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. AT THE CONCLUSION OF TWO AND A HALF MINUTES, THE PODIUM LIGHT WILL TURN YELLOW, GIVING YOU NOTICE THAT YOU'RE DOWN TO 30 SECONDS. I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE.

AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE THREE MINUTES, THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER? GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY MARK BURILLO.

HELLO AGAIN. I HAVE A MAILER HERE FROM A FELLOW NAMED RICHARD BAILEY. HE'S BEEN THE MAYOR OF CORONADO, AND HE'S RUNNING FOR OFFICE IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO. HE'S GOT A NICE MAILER HERE. I DO HOPE HE WINS.

I'M GOING TO READ WHAT'S ON HIS MAILER. IT SAYS, CITY OF SAN DIEGO'S POPULATION HAS INCREASED 1% IN THE LAST 11 YEARS, BUT THE CITY'S STAFFING HAS INCREASED 27%. GOVERNMENT SPENDING HAS INCREASED 80%.

MIDDLE MANAGER STAFFING HAS INCREASED 461%, AND THEIR PENSION PAYMENTS ARE $500 MILLION. ANNUALLY. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO SUPERVISOR JIM DESMOND THAT WAS ON TV TALKING ABOUT DURING THE PAST FEW YEARS, WHERE HE'S BEEN ON THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. TEN DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDED, AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHY. AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO COMMENTS MADE TO ME ABOUT THIS CITY, HALL, BY MAYOR HALL. THE SAME SORT OF THING HAS OCCURRED. AS NEAR AS I CAN TELL, IT SEEMS TO BE LIKE A STATEWIDE PHENOMENON, WHERE THE ONE PARTY THAT RUNS CALIFORNIA IS DOING SOMETHING HERE TO WRECK CITIES, SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING WHEN THEY ARE FORCING CITIES TO, STATE IS FORCING CITIES TO BUILD DENSE HOUSING. AND PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING AGAINST YOU GUYS AND EVERY CITY COUNCIL IN THE STATE. AND I SAY, I'VE GONE ON SOCIAL MEDIA SAYING, DON'T BLAME YOUR CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S BEING FORCED BY SACRAMENTO, ALL THIS CONGESTION. SO ALONG THOSE LINES, I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS ABOUT AIRPORT EXPANSION, PUBLIC COMMENT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY THIS CITY HALL WANTS TO TAKE CONTROL FROM THE COUNTY.

BUT MAYBE IT BECOMES PART OF CITY COUNCIL INVENTORY AND ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN POLICY FOR MUNICIPAL

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WHAT'S IN THE NEWS TODAY? FRAUD. WE'VE GOT FRAUD IN MINNESOTA. WE'VE GOT FRAUD IN L.A. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD ABOUT THE HOSPICES THAT THEY FOUND THERE. 18% OF THE NATION'S HOSPICE CLAIMS COME OUT OF L.A. IF I WERE MAYOR, I'D LOOK AT THAT AND I'D SAY, MAYBE WE NEED TO DO AN AUDIT.

MAYBE WE NEED TO DO OUR OWN INVESTIGATION.

MAKE SURE THIS CITY DOESN'T HAVE CORRUPTION GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE WATER NEXT.

SO THE BUD LEWIS...

DESALINATION PLANT PRODUCES 50 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. IT'S HUGE, 50 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. AND CARLSBAD, WHAT DO WE CONSUME? WE CONSUME LIKE 15 TO 20 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

SO IF WE WERE SUDDENLY CUT OFF FROM OUTSIDE WATER SOURCES AND WE COULD TURN A MAGIC VALVE THAT WOULD REDIRECT IT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY, WE COULD UTILIZE IT. WE'D HAVE LIKE TWO AND A HALF TO THREE TIMES AS MUCH. SO TECHNICALLY IT COULD BE DONE, BUT COULD IT BE DONE LEGALLY, CONTRACTUALLY? NO. THE CONTRACTS ARE WRITTEN SO WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO THE BUD LEWIS PLANT IS JUST LIKE A TOKEN FACILITY THAT WE HAVE HERE. THAT MAKES WATER FROM THE OCEAN AND THEN SENDS IT OUT AT $2,000 PER ACRE FOOT, WHICH IS UNAFFORDABLE RIGHT NOW BY STANDARD WATER RATES. SO WHAT IS IT REALLY THERE FOR? WHY DO WE HAVE THIS PLANT? MAYBE BUD'S TURNING OVER IN HIS GRAVE NOW THINKING ABOUT THAT. I MENTIONED ONE MORE TIME, BORRELLO VERSUS CITY OF CARLSBAD IN MAY HAVE A HEARING, AND IT'S A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION AFTER I WAS STRUCK DOWN BY DEMER LAST NOVEMBER. PLAN TO WIN THAT LAWSUIT. I'M NOT GOING TO STAND BACK ON IT. IT REALLY DIDN'T NEED TO PROCEED. IF YOU WOULD, JUST TALK TO ME. I SENT IN A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE AND NEVER REALLY GOT A RESPONSE.

AT ONE POINT, AFTER I SUBMITTED A PROTEST LETTER REGARDING POTABLE WATER RATES BEING INCREASED, WHAT DID I GET BACK? I JUST GOT AN ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSE, NOT REALLY ADDRESSING MY QUESTIONS. BUT WE HAD TO GO TO COURT TO GET ANY CONVERSATION GOING ON. AND I'LL SEE YOU IN COURT. THANK YOU.

MIKE, WOULD YOU TALK WITH PAZ GOMEZ? SHE'S RAISING HER HAND BACK THERE. AND TALK ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO TAKE WATER FROM THE DESALINATION PLANT FOR OUR OWN USE AND HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON HAVING THAT OPTION.

SO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

AND PAZ WILL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU. THANK YOU. PATTY KAYE, FOLLOWED BY RICHARD NEWTON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M CALLING UPON YOU TO RESTORE RESPECT FOR THE LAW. WHEN YOUNG, WE WERE TAUGHT TO RESPECT AND OBEY THE LAW, EVEN IF WE DIDN'T RESPECT...

THE IDEA. WE KNEW WE HAD TO OBEY IT OR SUFFER SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES. WHERE ARE THE CONSEQUENCES TODAY? WHERE ARE THE CONSEQUENCES WHEN YOU PUSH, SHOVE, SPIT AT, OR THROW OBJECTS AT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT? THE LAWS ARE ON THE BOOKS. DON'T BE AFRAID TO ENFORCE THEM. NUMBER ONE, PENAL CODE 24118 U.S.C 111 ADDRESSES ABUSE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT PROTECTS

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ATTACKING A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.

TWO, CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE 148 AI REGARDING INTERFERING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN U.S.

CHAPTER 78 OF TITLE 18 ON OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. SAY THAT INTERFERING AND OBSTRUCTION ARE VIOLATIONS OF THE LAW AND ARE PUNISHABLE OFFENSES. SOME EXAMPLES ARE WILLFULLY RESISTING AND DELAYING OR OBSTRUCTING A PEACE OFFICER, AN EMT OR PUBLIC OFFICER IN DISCHARGING OF THEIR DUTIES. OBSTRUCTION ALSO INCLUDES UNDULY INFLUENCING, IMPEDING, OR OTHERWISE INTERFERING WITH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. ASIDE FROM THE PHYSICAL ALTERCATIONS WITH THE LAW THAT WE HAVE SEEN RECENTLY, ONE WONDERS IF THE ORGANIZED BEHIND-THE-SCENES CALLS TO SUBVERT FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT VIA THE SIGNAL, CHATS OR EVEN THE DEMCO FLYER THAT WAS CIRCULATED FOR THIS MEETING TONIGHT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THIS PENAL CODE ON OBSTRUCTION. I REALLY WISH YOU'D CONSIDER THAT AND LOOK INTO IT. OUR LAWS EXIST TO PROTECT U.S. CITIZENS FROM HARM. PLEASE LET OUR OFFICERS DO THEIR JOBS WITHOUT INCREASED DANGER. THEY ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH IN DEALING WITH CRIMINALS. PLEASE PROTECT THEIR SPOUSES AND THEIR FAMILIES FROM BEING THREATENED OR HARMED. I DO NOT WANT TO MURDER A CHILD OR DRUG TRAFFICKER, A RAPIST, A SPOUSE ABUSER, OR A GANG MEMBER LIVING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY THOSE ATTACKING LAW ENFORCEMENT DO.

WHEN IS COMMON SENSE NOT COMMON SENSE? WHEN YOU FIGHT AGAINST THE LAWS THAT ARE MEANT TO PROTECT YOU. THANK YOU.

MAYOR BLACKBURN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AND THE PUBLIC. THIS IS SORT OF A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT.

I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SACRAMENTO BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS IN CALIFORNIA, AND I THINK THAT THE MORE EDUCATED PEOPLE ARE, THE BETTER OFF IT IS. SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND HOW IT'S STRUCTURED IN CALIFORNIA. WE HAVE A STATE SENATE, AND WE HAVE A STATE ASSEMBLY, WHICH IS ANALOGOUS TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ON A FEDERAL LEVEL, AND THEN AGAIN, A STATE SENATE IN SACRAMENTO. IT TAKES A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF EACH CHAMBER.

TO APPROVE LEGISLATION, WHICH THEN GOES TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK FOR SIGNATURE. ALL SEVEN STATEWIDE OFFICES, THE GOVERNOR, THE ATTORNEY, THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, AND ALL THOSE OTHERS ARE ALL RUN BY DEMOCRATS.

IN BOTH CHAMBERS, THE DEMOCRATS HAVE SUPER MAJORITIES. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ABOUT AN 80% MAJORITY IN BOTH CHAMBERS. THEY NEED A 67% MAJORITY, 67% VOTE TO OVERRIDE A GOVERNOR VETO.

SO BASICALLY, IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT THE DEMOCRATS OWN CALIFORNIA. AND THEY OWN ALL THE PROBLEMS IN CALIFORNIA, AS WELL AS ALL THE GOOD POLICIES IN CALIFORNIA.

THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN MESSAGE.

THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT $24 BILLION TO THE HOMELESS DISAPPEARED AND IS UNACCOUNTED FOR, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT OVER $100 BILLION OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS WAS SPENT ON A TRAIN, BULLET TRAIN, TO NOWHERE, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE FRAUD, THAT'S OUT OF CONTROL, AND WE HAVE... CRIME, THAT'S A PROBLEM. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THOSE ISSUES AND ALL THE OTHERS IN SACRAMENTO OR IN CALIFORNIA, THE PLACE TO LOOK IS TO SACRAMENTO. AND THAT MEANS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. SO WHAT IS A CULT IS TO SAY VOTE BLUE, NO MATTER WHO. THAT'S CULT-LIKE BEHAVIOR. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA, VOTE, DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT, VOTE REPUBLICAN.

EXCUSE ME, SIR, EXCUSE ME, PLEASE STOP THE CLOCK FOR A MOMENT. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, I ASKED FOR COURTESY AND RESPECT. ANY CATCALLING IS NOT PART OF COURTESY OR RESPECT. AND WHEN ANY OF YOU ARE SPEAKING, I'M GOING TO HOLD THE REST OF THE AUDIENCE TO THE EXACT SAME STANDARD.

SO, PLEASE, LET'S HANDLE OURSELVES LIKE ADULTS. AND PLEASE DON'T, LET'S JUST BE COURTEOUS, AS COURTEOUS AS WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE WHILE WE'RE SPEAKING.

YOU CAN START THE CLOCK.

PLEASE PROCEED, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF WEBSITES.

ONE OF THEM IS SENATE. DOT CA, FOR CALIFORNIA, SENATE.CA.GOV, AND THE OTHER IS ASSEMBLY.CA.GOV. AND YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE SUPER MAJORITIES OF BOTH OF THOSE HOUSES. AND YOU CAN LOOK UP, OBVIOUSLY THE GOVERNOR IS A DEMOCRAT, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE OTHER STATEWIDE OFFICES AS WELL AND SEE THAT THEY'RE ALL RUN BY DEMOCRATS. SO, GOOD OR BAD, THIS IS ALL WHAT WE HAVE IN CALIFORNIA AS A RESULT OF THE

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[CONSENT CALENDAR]

YES, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT ON CONSENT CALENDAR. AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, AND THAT'S THE APPROPRIATION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE STATE STREET PARKING LOT ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS PROJECT. THIS IS THE ONE WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE... OUR ASSEMBLY MEMBER, TASHA BERNER, MAKE A BUDGET REQUEST AT THE STATE FOR FUNDING FOR US. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR FIGHTING FOR CARLSBAD AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET FUNDING FOR OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HER AND MS. ACOSTA. WE SPOKE IN THE HALLWAY EARLIER. MS. BERNER HAS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE WITH US AND WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR CITY. SO THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT. ANY SPEAKERS ON ITEMS ONE OR TWO? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

MOTION, PLEASE. SO MOVED.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER THREE,

[3. ORDINANCE NOS. CS-506 AND CS-507 - 2025 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AMENDMENTS]

OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. MOTION. MOVE ADOPTION OF BOTH ORDINANCES AND ITEM THREE. SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. ITEM NUMBER THREE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR,

[4. WORK PLANS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025-26 FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND THE ARTS COMMISSION]

MYSELF AND DEPUTY LIBRARY DIRECTOR KATIE NYE SERVE AS THE STAFF LIAISONS FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

THE CULTURAL ARTS MANAGER, CRADDOCK STROPES, SERVES AS THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. ALSO HERE THIS EVENING ARE TWO DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS. SERVING ON THE BOARD AND COMMISSION, CHAIR OF THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES, LAUREL MORAN, AND CHAIR OF THE ARTS COMMISSION, BARBARA CHUNG. THEY WILL ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MUNICIPAL CODE, THE WORK PLANS OF ALL OF THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE PRESENTED ANNUALLY TO CITY COUNCIL. THIS ALSO INCLUDES A REPORT OF WORK ACCOMPLISHED IN THE PRIOR YEAR. THE ACTION WE ARE RECOMMENDING THIS EVENING IS TO ADOPT TWO RESOLUTIONS, ONE FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ONE FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. THE RESOLUTIONS APPROVE THE WORK PLANS GOING FORWARD AND ACCEPT THE WORK PLAN REPORTS FOR THE COMPLETED FISCAL YEAR AND DOCUMENTED IN THE STAFF REPORTS. AND NOW, ON TO THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES INFORMATION. THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES ADVISES CITY COUNCIL REGARDING LIBRARY SERVICES. THE BOARD ALSO SERVES AS A LIAISON FROM THE COMMUNITY TO THE STAFF.

DURING RECENT YEARS, THE TRUSTEES HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS AND SHARED IDEAS THAT HAVE COME TO THEM FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

STAFF WORK TO KEEP THEM UPDATED ON CURRENT SERVICES AND TECHNOLOGIES TO BEST SERVE IN THAT ROLE. I WILL FIRST SHARE A FEW OF THE LIBRARY BOARD'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR 2024-25. THE BOARD REVIEWED AND APPROVED THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE SEND TO THE CALIFORNIA STATE LIBRARY, CALLED THE PUBLIC LIBRARY SURVEY, AND ALL PUBLIC LIBRARIES IN CALIFORNIA PARTICIPATE. DATA IS PUBLISHED ANNUALLY, AND THIS WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED AT THE OCTOBER 2024 MEETING. THE BOARD ALSO RECEIVED PRESENTATIONS FROM LIBRARY WORK GROUPS IN 2024-25, INCLUDING REPORTS FROM LITERACY SERVICES, BILINGUAL SERVICES, AND GENEALOGY AND CARLSBAD HISTORY.

AND THEY ALSO RECEIVED UPDATES

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THIS PROJECT WAS REALIZED DUE TO THE GENEROUS DONATIONS OF THE FRIENDS OF THE CARLSBAD LIBRARY AND A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THE WORK PLANS FOR LIBRARY BOARD FOR THE CURRENT YEAR WAS DISCUSSED AND ACCEPTED AT THEIR OCTOBER 22, 2025, MEETING. IT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING GOALS AND TASKS.

ONCE AGAIN, ONE OF THEIR GOALS IS TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL REPORT OF INFORMATION AND DATA SUBMITTED TO THE CALIFORNIA STATE LIBRARY. ANOTHER IS TO UPDATE A VARIETY OF LIBRARY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WHEN THE LIBRARY DETERMINES A NEED AND THE ANNUAL BUDGET CONCURRENCE. THEY CONTINUE THEIR ROLE AS LIAISON WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THEIR VARIOUS NEEDS AND INTERESTS.

AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DIRECTOR, SUZANNE SMITHSON, TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK PLAN. FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. THANK YOU, SHEILA. AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL. I AM SUZANNE SMITH, THE CITY'S LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DIRECTOR, AND I WILL BE SHARING INFORMATION ON THE WORK PLAN FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. THE ARTS COMMISSION IS AN ACTIVE GROUP OF SEVEN COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ARTS IN CARLSBAD. THE ARTS COMMISSION, LIKE THE LIBRARY BOARD, IS ALSO ADVISORY TO CITY COUNCIL AND STRIVES TO SUPPORT ARTS. AND CULTURE IN THE COMMUNITY, SERVING AS ADVOCATES FOR THE ARTS. THE COMMISSION PROVIDES ASSISTANCE AND GUIDANCE RELATED TO ARTS PROGRAMS, PUBLIC ART, AND ARTS EDUCATION, AND MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING POLICIES RELATED TO THOSE TOPICS.

FOR FISCAL YEAR 24-25, I WILL SHARE A FEW OF THE ARTS COMMISSION'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS. THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN SUPPORTING AND DISCUSSING THE COMMUNITY ARTS GRANTS. AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ALLOCATED A HUNDRED AND SEVENTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR GRANTS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS. THESE GRANTS ARE DISTRIBUTED TO VARIOUS ARTS NONPROFITS, ARTISTS, SCHOOLS AND OTHER AGENCIES TO PROVIDE ARTISTIC EXPERIENCES AND PROGRAMS TO THE CARLSBAD COMMUNITY. THE COMMISSIONERS ALSO PARTICIPATED IN IN PUBLIC ART SUBCOMMITTEES, AND THIS YEAR THEY NOTABLY CHOSE THE ARTIST SELECTED FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AREA IN THE BARRIO. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN SEEING THE ART FOR VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK IN THE CHESTNUT UNDERPASS MAKE ITS WAY ALONG THE PROCESS TO IMPLEMENTATION.

COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALSO RECEIVED PRESENTATIONS FROM VARIOUS AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE SAN DIEGO COMMISSION FOR ARTS AND CULTURE, THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE, VILLAGE ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS RECEIVING UPDATES FROM THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION AND THE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. AS FOR THEIR GOALS FOR THIS COMING YEAR, THEY ARE ONCE AGAIN LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY ARTS GRANTS, THIS TIME LOOKING AT SOME CHANGES IN FUNDING ALLOCATIONS. THOSE WILL BE PRESENTED AT THEIR ARTS COMMISSION MEETING THIS COMING THURSDAY. THE COMMISSIONERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, BOTH CITY-SPONSORED AND COMMUNITY-BASED ACTIVITIES.

WORK ON THEIR COMMITTEES AND SUBCOMMITTEES CONTINUES, INCLUDING UPCOMING COMMITTEES, WHICH WILL SUPPORT PUBLIC ART FOR THE MONROE STREET POOL AND ROBERTSON RANCH PARK. ONE OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THIS PAST YEAR WAS TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF ARTS COMMISSIONERS TO REVIEW THE ARTS AND CULTURAL MAP.

ARTS AND CULTURE MASTER PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2018, AND THEY WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER WITH STAFF TO PREPARE A PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL THIS YEAR.

AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE CHAIRS OF OUR BOARD AND COMMISSION TO COME TO THE PODIUM. THE CHAIR OF THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES, LAUREL MORAN, WILL ADDRESS US, FOLLOWED BY BARBARA CHUNG, THE CHAIR OF THE ARTS COMMISSION. I'M LAUREL MORAN, CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE LIBRARY ACTIONS THAT WERE APPROVED AND REVIEWED BY THE BOARD THIS YEAR. WE APPROVED THE STATE LIBRARY SURVEY, AS SHEILA SAID, BUT I THOUGHT MANY OF YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT THE IMPORTANCE IS OF THE STATE LIBRARY SURVEY.

THE CALIFORNIA STATE LIBRARY SURVEY, ALL THE DATA IS FORWARDED TO THE STATE LIBRARY, AND IT'S ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE LIBRARY, AND THE DATA END UP REPORTING TO THE STATE LIBRARY. ACTUALLY GETTING REPORTED TO THE INSTITUTE OF MUSEUM AND LIBRARY SERVICES FOR NATIONWIDE COMPARISON AND REVIEW. AND THIS YEAR, WE ASKED THE LIBRARY TO PROVIDE WITH US IN THE NEAR FUTURE SOME BENCHMARKING DATA

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SO WE CAN SEE HOW WE ARE COMPARING. SO THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT. THIS PAST YEAR, AS PART OF A NEW LAW, THE CALIFORNIA FREEDOM TO READ ACT, THE LIBRARY WAS REQUIRED TO REVISE ITS COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT POLICY.

WHICH THE BOARD THEN APPROVED.

THE BOARD WAS PRESENTED THIS NEW POLICY THAT SETS FORTH THE FRAMEWORK FOR HOW MATERIALS ARE CHOSEN AND HOW CHALLENGES TO LIBRARY MATERIALS ARE EVALUATED, AND THAT'S A STATEWIDE REQUIREMENT. I THINK LINK PLUS INVOLVEMENT BY THE CITY LIBRARY IS WORTH NOTING HERE BECAUSE IT IS SO VALUABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. THE LIBRARY STAFF WENT THROUGH MANY HOOPS TO GET THIS SERVICE UP AND OPERATING FOR THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD. AS A CARLSBAD LIBRARY CARDHOLDER, YOU CAN MAKE ONLINE REQUESTS FOR BOOKS FROM PARTICIPATING LIBRARIES IN CALIFORNIA AND NEVADA.

BOOKS REQUESTED THROUGH LINC PLUS COME TO YOUR LIBRARY FOR FREE. AND IT'S A VALUABLE SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY PUBLIC LIBRARIES THAT YOU CAN REQUEST FROM. YOU CAN ALSO GET BOOKS FROM SDSU, UCSD, AND USD. FOR 25-26, WE MADE VERY FEW CHANGES TO THE WORK PLAN. YOU HAVE A MARKED-UP COPY IN FRONT OF YOU IN THE PACKET PROVIDED. BUT IN THE YEAR AHEAD, WE'LL BE SOON LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

CARLSBAD READS TOGETHER, WHICH INFORMATION IS COMING OUT JUST THIS WEEK, I THINK, ON THE BOOK THAT WAS CHOSEN, AND THE MULTITUDE OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE LIBRARY AND THE STAFF ARE WORKING ON.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM CITY COUNCIL. AS CHAIR OF THE ARTS COMMISSION, I'M DELIGHTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF OUR WORK PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025-26. THE MOST IMPACTFUL AREA OF ACTIVITY FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION CONTINUES TO BE PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMUNITY ARTS GRANT'S APPROVAL PROCESS. ARTS COMMISSIONERS HOPE TO TAKE A MORE ACTIVE ROLE IN THIS IMPORTANT WORK BY PARTICIPATING IN THE ONGOING REASSESSMENT OF FUNDING PRIORITIES.

IN CONJUNCTION WITH CULTURAL ARTS STAFF, RECOMMENDING POTENTIAL PANELISTS WHO WILL BE VETTED BY CULTURAL ARTS STAFF, AND EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF REGULAR REPORTS AT ARTS COMMISSION MEETINGS BY STAFF RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COMMUNITY ARTS GRANTS.

ARTS COMMISSIONERS ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO INCREASING INTERACTIONS WITH GRANTEES THROUGH ATTENDANCE AT EVENTS AND ENCOURAGING PRESENTATIONS FROM GRANTEES AT ARTS COMMISSION MEETINGS.

IN OTHER ONGOING WORK, SEVERAL ARTS COMMISSIONERS ARE SERVING ON THREE PUBLIC ART ADVISORY SUBCOMMITTEES. ONE OF WHICH, THE CHESTNUT STREET UNDERPASS, WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THIS THURSDAY'S REGULAR MEETING.

TURNING TO NEW INITIATIVES, AS A MEANS OF STRENGTHENING THE TIES BETWEEN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WITH A SHARED MISSION, ONE OF THE ARTS COMMISSIONERS PRESENTED THE ARTS COMMISSION'S 24-25 WORK PLAN TO THE CARLSBAD LIBRARY AND ARTS FOUNDATION ON MARCH 13, 2025. THE ARTS COMMISSION IS...

OPEN TO RECEIVING SIMILAR PRESENTATIONS, AS WELL AS CONTINUING UPDATES FROM BOTH THE CARLSBAD LIBRARY AND ARTS FOUNDATION AND CARLSBAD FRIENDS OF THE ARTS. A SUBCOMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO REVIEW THE ARTS AND CULTURE MASTER PLAN IN FEBRUARY OF 2025 AND PRESENTED THEIR FINDINGS AT THE OCTOBER 02, 2025, REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARTS COMMISSION. THE KEY TAKEAWAY FROM THAT PRESENTATION WAS THE NEED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE ARTS AND CULTURE MASTER PLAN TO CITY COUNCIL. THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL BE WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO SCHEDULE THIS UPDATE.

IN CONCLUSION, THE ARTS COMMISSION IS GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S SUPPORT OF THE ARTS. THE CITY'S INVESTMENT ENSURES THE OVERALL VIBRANCY OF OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE INTEGRATION OF THE ARTS INTO EVERYDAY LIFE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRS.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WILLINGNESS TO SPEAK ON THE VOLUNTEER BOARD AND COMMISSION THAT YOU SERVE ON. THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR RECEIVING OUR PRESENTATION AND REVIEWING OUR WORK PLANS. UPON YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING, THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND THE ARTS COMMISSION TO CONTINUE WITH THE WORK OUTLINED IN THE PLANS. THE ACTION THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TONIGHT...

IS TO ADOPT TWO RESOLUTIONS, ONE FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ONE FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? MS. BURKHOLDER. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. AND THANK YOU, MS. MORAN AND MS. CHUNG, FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU TOOK BACK TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR YOUR VOLUNTEERISM. AND NOT ONLY THAT, YOUR YOUR VIBRANCY REGARDING THESE ISSUES IN THE LIBRARY AND ARTS AND CULTURE.

WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANKS MR.

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WE JUST THINK THAT BOTH OF OF YOUR GROUPS AND AND THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT MANAGED BY MS. MISSON ARE SUCH A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. THAT ADDS VALUE AND IS A SAFE PLACE, LIBRARIES AND ARTS REALLY ENRICH OUR LIVES HERE IN CARLSBAD AND MAKE US EVEN MORE SPECIAL. SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. MR. SHEN. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT, AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT THE COLLEAGUES ON MY RIGHT SAY, BUT ONE THING IS, WE REALIZE HOW TRIBALIZED WE ARE THESE DAYS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE NOTICING THAT, BUT THE BEAUTY OF WHO WE ARE CAN BE EXPRESSED THROUGH ART AND WHY WE'RE CONNECTED TOGETHER. AND I THINK THIS IS THE, THERE'S PROBABLY NO GREATER TIME THAN NOW, WHERE IT FEELS LIKE THAT ARTS AND OUR LIBRARIES ARE NEEDED MORE THAN WE TYPICALLY FIND THEMSELVES. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO CONNECT OUR DIFFERENCES, HOW ELSE ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? AND ART AND MUSIC IS KIND OF FUN. SO LET'S DO IT THAT WAY. ALL RIGHT. I YIELD.

MS. BOB PATEL. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN, YOU STOLE MY THOUGHTS. I WAS GOING TO SAY, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO. AND THEN.

TO OUR COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME. I TOO, THINK THAT THE ARTS AND LIBRARY BRING SO MANY PEOPLE TOGETHER AND IT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF MY FONDEST MEMORIES OF MY CHILDHOOD. AND THEN, OF COURSE, BEING ABLE TO TAKE MY CHILDREN THERE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST ENJOY NOT ONLY OUR PROGRAMMING, BUT ALSO READING A BOOK, SITTING DOWN AND READING A BOOK AT THE LIBRARY. SO I HOPE THAT YOU ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THAT AS WELL. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU ALL DO AND THE OUTREACH THAT YOU DO TO THE COMMUNITY. THANKS.

SOMETIMES WE LEARN OUR LESSONS THE HARD WAY. AND WHEN WE DID THE ART FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITY, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL POLICE OFFICER AND FIREMAN MADE OUT OF METAL, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL. BUT WHEN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, I SAID, THAT'S A RIDICULOUS WASTE OF MONEY. THE COPS AND THE FIREMEN DON'T CARE ABOUT IT.

THAT THEY CARE MORE ABOUT THE TRAINING FACILITY.

BOY, I WAS WRONG. MY HEAD ALMOST GOT CHOPPED OFF OVER THAT STATEMENT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVED, AND NOW I SEE MORE AND MORE HOW IMPORTANT ART IS TO OUR COMMUNITY, EVEN INCLUDING THE POLICE OFFICERS AND THE FIREMEN. SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, AND I'M A CHANGED MAN. SO A MOTION, PLEASE. MOVE BOTH RESOLUTIONS. SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. AND ITEM NUMBER

[5. UPDATE ON FEDERAL ACTIVITIES IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD]

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

IN EARLY DECEMBER, AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA, THE CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO PLACE ITEM FIVE ON THE AGENDA. THE ITEM IS TO RECEIVE AN INFORMATIONAL REPORT FROM THE POLICE CHIEF TO HEAR OBSERVATIONS SPECIFIC TO RECENT FEDERAL ACTIVITIES IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. AND TO REPORT ON ANY INVOLVEMENT THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD WITH FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF MISUNDERSTANDING AMONG CARLSBAD RESIDENTS WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT ROLE, IF ANY, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN PLAY IN IMMIGRATION-RELATED ACTIVITIES.

A FEW YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A HIGHLY PUBLICIZED BOAT LANDING ON OUR BEACH, WHERE VIDEO SHOWED IMMIGRANTS RUNNING ACROSS THE SAND, UP THE STAIRS, AND INTO THE VILLAGE.

QUESTIONS WERE ASKED OF CITY HALL AS TO WHY CARLSBAD POLICE DID NOTHING TO STOP THE ACTIVITY OR WHEN SIMILAR EVENTS OCCUR. IN RECENT MONTHS, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASING PRESENCE OF FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT NORTH COUNTY, AND AT TIMES, THEY'VE EVEN ENTERED CARLSBAD IN PURSUIT OF VEHICLES TRAVELING FROM OTHER CITIES. WE'VE ALSO SEEN FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PARKED IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS IN THE AREA, INCLUDING ON ONE OCCASION FOR 14 MINUTES IN THE PUBLIC PARKING LOT OF DOVE LIBRARY. AND WE'VE RECEIVED REPORTS OF FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT STOPS TAKING PLACE WITHIN NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS IN CARLSBAD. THERE IS CURRENTLY A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF CONCERN AND MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THESE ACTIVITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE FIRST REPORTS CAME IN THAT FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WERE PARKED NEAR DOVE LIBRARY, EARLY REPORTS WERE THAT MASKED OFFICERS WERE SEEN RUNNING INTO THE LIBRARY, WHICH WAS NOT CORRECT.

BUT THAT SORT OF CONFUSION GAINS TRACTION AND CONTRIBUTES TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF FEAR AND ANXIETY IN OUR COMMUNITY. LATELY, WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE SEEING ON THE NATIONAL NEWS OR HEARING FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS IS ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF THEIR CONCERN, WHICH HAS APPROPRIATELY RESULTED IN QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THOSE OF US IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR IN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

TONIGHT'S INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

WILL PROVIDE THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY

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AFTER THE PRESENTATION, THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ASK QUESTIONS OF TONIGHT'S PRESENTERS, AND THEN WE WILL CONCLUDE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION. THIS EVENING'S ITEM HAS BEEN DESIGNED...

TO CLEAR UP CONFUSION AND TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED IN RECENT WEEKS OVER OUR CITY'S INVOLVEMENT, OR LACK THEREOF, WITH FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS. I WOULD NOW LIKE TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO POLICE CHIEF CHRISTY CALDERWOOD AND SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY JENNIFER TRUE. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN AND RESPECTIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS. TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION IS GOING TO COVER THE FOLLOWING BULLET POINTS ON THIS SLIDE. OUR SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, JENNIFER TRUE, WILL COVER THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK THAT GOVERNS OUR ACTIONS, AND THEN I WILL GO OVER OUR DEPARTMENT POLICIES THAT GUIDE OUR RESPONSE, AS WELL AS OUR INTERACTIONS, COMMUNICATION, AND INVESTIGATIONS INVOLVING FEDERAL AGENCIES, ULTIMATELY, WRAPPING UP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ROLE IF CALLED TO A SCENE WHERE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW ENFORCEMENT IS PRESENT. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION. AND BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO MS. TRUE, LET ME PLEASE START WITH THIS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S CURRENT APPROACH TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT HAS CREATED CONCERN AND UNCERTAINTY. THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT FIRMLY BELIEVES THAT TRUST BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITY TO INCLUDE OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ESSENTIAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME AS THE CHIEF THAT WE HAVE A STRONG, COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE DECADES OF WORKING SIDE BY SIDE WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO SHOW THAT. I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT MY ROLE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT. AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE, I WANT TO ASSURE THE COMMUNITY WE SERVE THAT WE FOLLOW THE CALIFORNIA VALUES ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS SB.

54, HAVE SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE LAW, AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT PARTICIPATE IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

WITH THAT, I WILL HAND THE PRESENTATION OVER TO OUR SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, MS. TRUE. THANK YOU, CHIEF. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JENNIFER TRUE, AND I'M THE SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. MY ROLE TONIGHT IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK GOVERNING THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN RELATION TO FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. AT THE OFFSET, OUTSET, EXCUSE ME. IT IS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THE SCOPE OF LOCAL AUTHORITY. THE CITY AND ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT DO NOT HAVE LEGAL AUTHORITY OVER FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS A FEDERAL FUNCTION CARRIED OUT BY FEDERAL AGENCIES. CARLSBAD POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW. THEY DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN IMMIGRATION RAIDS, AND THEY ARE NOT INVOLVED IN IMMIGRATION-FOCUSED OPERATIONS.

AT THE STATE LEVEL, THERE ARE SEVERAL KEY STATUTES THAT DEFINE AND LIMIT HOW LOCAL AGENCIES MAY INTERACT WITH FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES. FIRST IS THE CALIFORNIA TRANSPARENCY AND RESPONSIBILITY USING STATE TOOLS, OR TRUST ACT. THE TRUST ACT LIMITS HOW LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES MAY COMPLY WITH IMMIGRATION DETAINER REQUESTS OR OTHERWISE TRANSFER INDIVIDUALS TO FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES. THE TRUST ACT GENERALLY PERMITS SUCH COOPERATION ONLY UNDER SPECIFIED CONDITIONS, INCLUDING WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF, OR, IN SOME CASES, CHARGED WITH, CERTAIN SERIOUS OR VIOLENT FELONIES OR OTHER OFFENSES IDENTIFIED IN THE STATUTE.

SECOND IS THE CALIFORNIA TRANSPARENT REVIEW OF UNJUST TRANSFERS AND HOLDS, OR THE TRUTH ACT. THE TRUTH ACT REQUIRES LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO INDIVIDUALS WHEN FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES REQUEST AN INTERVIEW OR A TRANSFER OF CUSTODY. IN THE CASE OF A REQUEST FOR AN INTERVIEW, THE TRUTH ACT REQUIRES THAT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES INFORM INDIVIDUALS OF THEIR RIGHT TO DECLINE THE INTERVIEW BEFORE IT OCCURS. THIRD IS THE CALIFORNIA VALUES ACT, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS SB 54. THIS LAW GENERALLY RESTRICTS STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FROM USING THEIR RESOURCES TO ASSIST IN FEDERAL CIVIL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. THIS INCLUDES LIMITS ON INQUIRING INTO IMMIGRATION STATUS,

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THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU DETAILS THE EXPLICIT PROHIBITIONS FROM S.B. 54. THE LAW DOES ALLOW SPECIFIC FORMS OF COOPERATION IN DEFINED CIRCUMSTANCES, SUCH AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PARTICIPATION IN JOINT TASK FORCE WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT FOCUS ON NON-IMMIGRATION.

RELATED CRIMES. IN ADDITION, THE IMMIGRANT WORKER PROTECTION ACT APPLIES PRIMARILY TO EMPLOYERS, INCLUDING PUBLIC EMPLOYERS LIKE THE CITY. THE ACT LIMITS THE ABILITY OF EMPLOYERS TO ALLOW IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AGENTS TO ACCESS NON-PUBLIC WORK AREAS ABSENT A JUDICIAL WARRANT. IT FURTHER LIMITS AN EMPLOYER'S ABILITY TO ALLOW AND IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AGENTS TO ACCESS, REVIEW, OR OBTAIN EMPLOYEES' PERSONNEL RECORDS.

FINALLY, THERE IS AN UPCOMING STATE REQUIREMENT THAT BECAME LAW ON JANUARY 1 OF 2026.

UNDER A NEW PROVISION OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL IS REQUIRED TO PUBLISH A MODEL POLICY FOR LOCAL AGENCIES REGARDING INTERACTION WITH IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES BY JULY 1 OF 2026. ONCE THAT MODEL POLICY IS ISSUED, THE CITY WILL BE REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT THE MODEL POLICY, OR AN EQUIVALENT VERSION BY JANUARY 1 OF 2027. AS OF TODAY, THE MODEL POLICY HAS NOT YET BEEN RELEASED.

IN CLOSING, BEFORE I HAND IT BACK OVER TO THE CHIEF, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WHAT YOU'VE HEARD IS NOT A MATTER OF POLICY PREFERENCE OR LOCAL DISCRETION.

IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE, LAYERED LEGAL FRAMEWORK ESTABLISHED AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT...

ALREADY GOVERNS HOW THE CITY AND ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY OR MAY NOT ACT. THESE LAWS DEFINE CLEAR BOUNDARIES, IMPOSE SPECIFIC OBLIGATIONS, AND PROVIDE ENFORCEABLE PROTECTIONS TO THE PUBLIC. THE CITY AND ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATE WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES EVERY DAY. CHIEF CALDERWOOD WILL NOW WALK YOU THROUGH HOW THIS LEGAL FRAMEWORK IS IMPLEMENTED OPERATIONALLY, USING SPECIFIC REAL-WORLD EXAMPLES THAT DEMONSTRATE WHAT THESE LAWS LOOK LIKE.

IN ACTION. WITH THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF CALDERWOOD. THANK YOU.

AS MS. TRUE EXPLAINED, IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS GOVERNED BY AN INTRICATE LEGAL FRAMEWORK. HOW OUR DEPARTMENT ENGAGES IN THAT SPACE IS IMPACTED BY SEVERAL LAWS AND POLICIES, PARTICULARLY S.B. 54 AND OUR DEPARTMENT POLICY 428, WHICH MIRRORS THE STATE LAW.

ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE CLEAR PROTOCOLS FOR HANDLING ICE ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANTS AND FEDERAL CRIMINAL ARREST WARRANTS. ICE ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANTS ARE FOR CIVIL IMMIGRATION VIOLATIONS.

OFFICERS CANNOT SERVE, ARREST, OR OTHERWISE ACT UPON ICE ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANTS.

FEDERAL CRIMINAL ARREST WARRANTS, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE ENFORCEABLE. THESE WARRANTS ARE ENFORCEABLE IF THE PERSON ENCOUNTERED AND THE SUSPECTED VIOLATION IS DETECTED DURING AN UNRELATED LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY. AND THE INDIVIDUAL WAS REMOVED FROM THE COUNTRY PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF AN AGGRAVATED FELONY.

EXAMPLES OF THESE AGGRAVATED FELONIES INCLUDE MURDER, RAPE, SEX ABUSE OF A MINOR, AND DRUG TRAFFICKING OFFENSES, AMONG OTHERS. WITH FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ACTIVITY INCREASING NATIONWIDE, WE PROVIDED CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND TRAINING, BOTH VERBALLY AND WRITING TO OUR STAFF THROUGHOUT 2025.

WE CREATED CLEAR AND CONCISE TRAINING BULLETINS LAST YEAR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND WHAT SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT BE DONE ON SCENE IF AN OFFICER ENCOUNTERS SOMEONE WITH ONE OF THESE WARRANTS, AS WELL AS HOW OUR DISPATCHERS SHOULD HANDLE THEM. WE CREATED A VERY CLEAR, CONCISE FLYER THAT WE SHARED INTERNALLY WITH OUR STAFF AND EXTERNALLY WITH THE COMMUNITY.

ON OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE. ON WHAT S.B. 54 IS AND WHAT OUR ROLE IS IN FEDERAL IMMIGRATION. ENFORCEMENT. WE DISCUSSED S.B. 54 AND THESE TRAINING BULLETINS IN OUR SUPERVISOR STAFF MEETINGS, OUR PATROL BRIEFINGS, AND PUT THEM OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT VIA EMAIL.

SO THE EMPLOYEES HAVE CLEAR TRAINING TOOLS AND POLICY TO REFERENCE. WE ALSO UPDATED OUR POLICY MANUAL, WITH WHICH EVERY OFFICER MUST READ AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE READ AND UNDERSTOOD CLEARLY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THESE TRAINING BULLETINS WERE ALSO PUBLISHED ON OUR DEPARTMENT WEBSITE.

ANNUALLY, EACH YEAR IN FEBRUARY, OUR DEPARTMENT DOES UPDATED TRAINING FOR VARIOUS TOPICS. THIS YEAR, OUR DEPARTMENT IS INCLUDING TRAINING SPECIFICALLY ON SB 54 AND OUR ROLE FOR THE FEBRUARY TRAINING MODULE. AS AN ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARD, PER DEPARTMENT POLICY 428, ABSENT AN URGENT ISSUE OF OFFICER SAFETY OR OTHER EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES, REQUESTS FOR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS FOR ASSISTANCE FROM CARLSBAD

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AS NOTED BY OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. PATNOE, IN HIS OPENING STATEMENT ON DECEMBER 1ST OF THIS PAST YEAR, THERE WAS A VIDEO TAKEN IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE DOVE LIBRARY OF ICE AGENTS NEAR THEIR VEHICLES. THERE WERE MULTIPLE EMAILS TO THE CITY STATING, QUOTE, SEVERAL HEAVILY ARMED AGENTS WEARING MASKS, LONG GUNS, AND TACTICAL VESTS WERE SEEN.

UNQUOTE, AT THE DOVE LIBRARY, ALONG WITH MULTIPLE HIGH-SPEED VEHICLES AND MILITARIZED ACTIVITY. THE EMAILS ALSO NOTE THAT THE VIDEO IS BEING CIRCULATED WIDELY ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT THIS MISINFORMATION BEING SPREAD IS LEADING TO FEAR, MISTRUST, AND TRIGGERING STRONG EMOTIONS TOWARD EVEN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. THERE WERE NO LONG GUNS SEEN IN THE VIDEO. THE AGENTS WERE DRIVING SUVS AND MINIVANS. NOT HIGH-SPEED VEHICLES, AND HAD JUST MADE A LEGAL ARREST NEARBY. MOST IMPORTANTLY, I CAN CONFIRM THAT CARLSBAD POLICE OFFICERS WERE NOT PRESENT AND DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY WITH ICE AGENTS ON THIS DATE OR ANY OTHER.

THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEARING AFTER THE FACT FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ICE WAS OBSERVED IN OUR CITY. WE ARE NOT PRIVY TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT TACTICAL PLANS. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE ICE... OR BORDER PATROL WILL CALL OUR DISPATCH CENTER AND ADVISE THAT THEY ARE IN OUR CITY CONDUCTING ENFORCEMENT.

AND THERE ARE OTHER TIMES WHERE ICE HAS BEEN OBSERVED IN OUR CITY AND OUR DISPATCH CENTER HAS NOT BEEN CALLED IN ADVANCE. THERE WAS A RECENT INSTANCE WHERE SOMEONE CALLED INTO OUR DISPATCH CENTER ADVISING THEY WERE BEING STOPPED BY A VEHICLE. OUR DISPATCH COULD HEAR SOMEONE IN THE BACKGROUND IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES AS ICE. ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY, AN ICE OFFICER CALLED INTO OUR DISPATCH CENTER, ADVISING THAT HE WAS ON SCENE, WITH THE PERSON CALLING 911.

AND HE HAD A FELONY ARREST WARRANT FOR THE SUBJECT. THE ICE OFFICERS TOOK THE SUBJECT INTO CUSTODY AND LEFT HIS VEHICLE PARKED ON SCENE. OUR OFFICERS WERE DISPATCHED TO THE SCENE, DROVE TO THE LOCATION AS A NORMAL CALL FOR SERVICE, AND WHEN THEY ARRIVED, BOTH THE SUBJECT THAT CALLED 911 AND THE ICE OFFICERS WERE ALREADY GONE. OUR COMMUNICATION WITH FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OFFICERS HAS BEEN EXTREMELY LIMITED BECAUSE OF S.B. 54.

JUST THIS MORNING, ICE WAS SEEN WITH THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE MAKING AN ARREST ON FARADAY AVENUE. ONE OF OUR OFFICERS HAPPENED TO BE DRIVING BY, THIS IS DOWN THE STREET FROM OUR STATION, AND WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT A TRAFFIC COLLISION HAD JUST OCCURRED.

THERE WERE MULTIPLE VEHICLES BACKED UP ON WESTBOUND FARADAY. OUR OFFICER PULLED OVER AND ONCE HE REALIZED FEDERAL AGENTS WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ARREST, HE KEPT HIS DISTANCE AND BEGAN CONDUCTING TRAFFIC CONTROL BECAUSE THERE WERE MULTIPLE NEAR-TRAFFIC COLLISIONS OCCURRING DURING A BUSY MORNING COMMUTE. A SUPERVISOR ARRIVED ON SCENE AS PER POLICY, AND ONCE THE TRAFFIC WAS CLEAR, OUR OFFICERS LEFT THE SCENE.

CARLSBAD PD HAD NO OTHER INVOLVEMENT IN THIS CASE. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS THE FACT THAT WE ALSO PARTNER WITH A WIDE ARRAY OF FEDERAL AGENCIES FOR A MULTITUDE OF CRIME INVESTIGATIONS THAT DO NOT INCLUDE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. AGENCIES LIKE HOMELAND SECURITY INVESTIGATIONS, ALSO KNOWN AS HSI, AND CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION, ALSO KNOWN AS CBP, CONDUCT A RANGE OF INVESTIGATIONS. INCLUDING HUMAN TRAFFICKING, CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN, AND DRUG TRAFFICKING THAT AFFECT LOCAL COMMUNITIES. THESE ENTITIES FALL UNDER THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. HERE ARE JUST A FEW RECENT EXAMPLES OF CASES THAT WE WORK WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

JUST LAST WEDNESDAY, ON JANUARY 28TH, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MADE AN ARREST OF A LOCAL TEACHER WHO WAS FOUND TO BE IN POSSESSION OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE MATERIAL.

WHILE THE DOJ WAS THE LEAD ON THIS CASE, WE DID ASSIST IN THE SEARCH WARRANT IN OUR CITY. WE HAVE A STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS FEDERAL AGENCY, WHICH IS PARAMOUNT TO OUR SUCCESS, ESPECIALLY IN A CASE WHERE CHILDREN ARE ALLEGEDLY BEING VICTIMIZED.

ANOTHER CASE IS CARLSBAD. PD HAS BEEN INVESTIGATING ILLICIT... SEX ACTIVITY OCCURRING AT ESTABLISHMENTS IN OUR CITY, LEADING TO THE DISCOVERY OF A NETWORK OF BUSINESSES ALL OVER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WITH POTENTIAL VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT IN FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY. HSI, WHO HAVE THE ABILITY AND RESOURCES TO INVESTIGATE LARGE-SCALE CRIMES SPANNING COUNTIES, STATES, AND MULTIPLE COUNTRIES, ARE CONTINUING THE INVESTIGATION INTO THIS NETWORK. VICTIMS OF HUMAN OR SEX TRAFFICKING BEING EXPLOITED IN ANY ESTABLISHMENT IN OUR CITY IS CLEARLY DISTURBING. A THIRD EXAMPLE, WHEN OUR VICE NARCOTICS DETECTIVES ARE INVESTIGATING SUSPECTS BELIEVED TO BE SECRETING NARCOTICS IN THEIR BODIES. AND BRINGING THOSE NARCOTICS ACROSS THE BORDER. AND THEN DISTRIBUTING THEM TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITIES, THAT OFTEN LEAD TO OVERDOSE DEATHS, WE WILL WORK WITH U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION, ALSO KNOWN AS CBP.

IN A RECENT CASE, CBP ASSISTED US

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THE SUSPECT WAS FOUND TO HAVE FENTANYL INSIDE THEIR BODY CAVITY AND TAKEN INTO CUSTODY, THANKFULLY, HALTING THESE DANGEROUS NARCOTICS FROM POTENTIALLY TAKING THE LIFE OF A CARLSBAD RESIDENT.

AND THE FINAL EXAMPLE, AS YOU MAY RECALL, OUR COMMUNITY WAS BEING RAVAGED WITH HOME BURGLARIES IN 2023 AND EARLY 2024 BY A SOUTH AMERICAN THEFT GROUP THAT WAS CONDUCTING BURGLARIES ALL OVER THE NATION. WE MADE AN ARREST OF MULTIPLE SUSPECTS FROM CHILE AND ONE FROM ITALY, WHO WERE PART OF A FOREIGN TRAVELING CREW AND WERE USING THE VISA WAIVER PROGRAM TO ENTER THE U.S. AND COMMIT WHAT'S CALLED BURGLARY TOURISM.

THIS INVESTIGATION WAS A MASSIVE EFFORT BY OUR DEPARTMENT AFTER MULTIPLE VICTIMS THAT HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED BY HOME BURGLARIES IN OUR CITY ALONE. THESE SOUTH AMERICAN THEFT GROUPS WERE BELIEVED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OVER 100 BURGLARIES JUST IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY ALONE. THESE SUSPECTS WERE CAUGHT RUNNING FROM A HOME IN OUR CITY THAT THEY BROKE INTO, AND WE WORKED WITH THE FBI AND HSI ON THOSE CRIMINAL CASES. WE HAVE COUNTLESS OTHER EXAMPLES WITH ENTITIES LIKE THE ATF, DEA, AND SECRET SERVICE. THE REASON THAT I MENTION THESE CASES IS BECAUSE MANY TIMES.

THESE FEDERAL PARTNERS ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY. DOING INCREDIBLE WORK, COLLABORATING WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, HELPING PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, AMONG OTHERS. OFTENTIMES, THEY ARE NOT WEARING A TRADITIONAL POLICE UNIFORM AND ARE IN CIVILIAN CLOTHING, LEADING TO THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE AS CARLSBAD POLICE ARE CONDUCTING ENFORCEMENT WITH IMMIGRATION OFFICERS, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE. THE COMMUNICATION WE HAVE WITH OUR FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR OFFICERS PARTICIPATING IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

HOWEVER, IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL IN ENSURING WE ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO NOT ONLY PROTECT THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO PROTECT THOSE THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT INTO OUR COMMUNITY FROM OTHER PLACES TO BE TRAFFICKED OR VICTIMIZED IN OTHER WAYS. WHEN AGENCIES SHARE INFORMATION, THREATS ARE IDENTIFIED SOONER AND RESPONSES ARE QUICKER.

WITHOUT COMMUNICATION, ENFORCEMENT AND INVESTIGATIONS INTO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY BECOMES FRAGMENTED, AND FRAGMENTATION IS EXACTLY WHAT CRIMINALS EXPLOIT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CALLED TO THE SCENE OF AN ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT EFFORT BY FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OFFICERS, UNDER FEDERAL LAW, CARLSBAD POLICE OFFICERS CANNOT INTERFERE WITH OR IMPEDE FEDERAL AGENTS WHO ARE CARRYING OUT THEIR DUTIES. FEDERAL LAW GENERALLY TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER STATE OR LOCAL LAW UNDER THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE.

WHAT THAT MEANS? IN PRACTICE, IF CARLSBAD PD RECEIVES A CALL ABOUT A CRIME OR A PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT INVOLVING FEDERAL AGENTS, WE WILL RESPOND JUST AS WE WOULD FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, AND THE FEDERAL AGENTS WOULD CALL US THE SAME WAY THROUGH DISPATCH. THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE PUT OUT GUIDANCE TO ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ON JANUARY 17, 2025, WHICH IS EXHIBIT 4 ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. THE GUIDANCE AND THE LAW STATE THAT IF THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO INCLUDE IMMIGRATION OFFICER, IS IN DANGER, THERE IS A PUBLIC SAFETY EXCEPTION FOR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO RESPOND. THERE MAY BE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE OUR OFFICERS DO NOT KNOW IN ADVANCE WHETHER THE UNDERLYING FEDERAL ACTIVITY IS IMMIGRATION RELATED OR NOT. THIS MORNING'S INCIDENT IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. ONCE ON SCENE, OFFICERS WILL ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, ENFORCE CALIFORNIA CRIMINAL LAW, AND MAINTAIN PEACE, JUST LIKE IN ANY OTHER CALL FOR SERVICE. THIS INCLUDES RESPONDING TO EMERGENCIES WHICH MAY INVOLVE INJURIES, THREATS OF VIOLENCE, PROPERTY CRIME, AMONG OTHERS, EVEN IF IMMIGRATION OFFICERS ARE PRESENT. IF PEOPLE ON SCENE ARE DETAINED FOR CRIMINAL ACTS UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW, NOT JUST FOR IMMIGRATION REASONS, WE WILL ENFORCE STATE LAW. OUR OFFICERS MAY COORDINATE WITH FEDERAL AGENTS TO ENSURE SCENE SAFETY.

EXAMPLES ARE CROWD CONTROL, TRAFFIC CONTROL, JUST LIKE THIS MORNING, EMERGENCY CARE, BUT NOT TO HELP WITH IMMIGRATION-SPECIFIC ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. OFFICERS WILL MAINTAIN A CALM AND PARTIAL RESPONSE. AND PRIORITIZE SAFETY OF ALL PERSONS PRESENT, INCLUDING CIVILIANS AND FEDERAL AGENTS. OFFICERS WILL COMMUNICATE CLEARLY WITH ALL PARTIES ABOUT ROLES AND EXPECTATIONS WHILE ON SCENE, AND SUPERVISORS WILL RESPOND ON SCENE IN CASES WHERE WE ARE DISPATCHED. IF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES ARE PRESENT TO ENSURE THAT ONCE OUR ROLE RELATED TO STATE LAW IS COMPLETE, OUR OFFICERS DISENGAGE.

IN SHORT, OUR FOCUS WILL BE ON PUBLIC SAFETY. CRIMINAL LAW

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THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A LONG TRACK RECORD FOR MANY YEARS OF FACILITATING PEACEFUL PROTESTS BECAUSE THERE IS SHARED TRUST. SOME OF THE MORE RECENT PROTESTS...

WHERE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FILLED AREAS OF OUR CITY. WAS THE GEORGE FLOYD BLM PROTESTS OF 2020 AND THE MULTIPLE NO KINGS PROTESTS JUST LAST YEAR. WE FIRMLY BELIEVE THE SUCCESS IN THESE PROTESTS REMAINING PEACEFUL IS DUE TO THE COMMUNICATION AND THE COLLABORATION WE HAVE WITH THOSE EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, THEY'RE PROTESTING, AS WELL AS THE STRONG STANCE THAT WE TAKE AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT IN PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS AND PROTECTING OUR CITY. WE TAKE DE-ESCALATION SERIOUSLY AND PRACTICE IT DAILY. WE ALSO FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WHILE THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS ROBUST, IT DOES NOT PRESENT IMMUNITY FROM ALL LAWS. PEACEFUL PROTESTS ARE NONVIOLENT AND NON-THREATENING. WE'VE MADE IT CLEAR WITH THOSE PROTESTING THAT WE DO NOT TOLERATE LAWLESSNESS IN OUR CITY, AND WE HAVE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH PEOPLE EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE LAW.

IN CLOSING, WE WANT TO BE CLEAR. CARLSBAD PD DOES NOT ENGAGE IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. I WANT TO SAY IT AGAIN. WE'VE SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES IN THIS PRESENTATION. CARLSBAD PD DOES NOT ENGAGE IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. WE OPERATE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF CALIFORNIA LAW OUTLINED BY S.B. 54, AND WE TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY. AND FINALLY, OUR PRIORITY IS MAINTAINING PUBLIC SAFETY WHILE PRESERVING TRUST WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.

AT THIS TIME, WE CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? LET ME REPHRASE THAT. HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? THIRTY.

THIRTY SPEAKERS. CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, PLEASE. WELL, LET ME JUST DO A QUICK REMINDER. I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER'S SPEAKING HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, AND WE'RE GOING TO ALL BE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL. I'VE GOT A PLAN FOR EMPTYING THE COURTROOM. I WATCHED JUDGE JUDY EARLIER.

THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, PLEASE, LET'S MAKE AN EXAMPLE TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORING CITIES WHO THEIR MEETINGS HAVE GONE A LITTLE BIT AWRY. LET'S MAKE AN EXAMPLE THAT CARLSBAD DOESN'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, PLEASE.

PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.

GLENN BERNARD, FOLLOWED BY MIKE BORRELLO. A PERSON BORN IN EAST L.A. OF IMMIGRANT PARENTS IS PROBABLY CALLED A DREAMER. I'M A DREAMER. BORN AND RAISED EAST L.A. SLASH PICO RIVERA AND I MARRIED INTO A LATINO FAMILY. SO I WANT TO SAY THIS CONCERNING ALL THE PHYSICALITY THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. DEBATE IN A ROOM LIKE THIS WOULD BE FAR BETTER.

THEN ALL THE PHYSICALITY THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, SUCH AS PEOPLE CLIMBING WALLS AND BEING IN THE STREETS FIGHTING. WHAT DEBATE WOULD I BE TALKING ABOUT? FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, DEMOCRATS IN AMERICA TALKED ABOUT STATEHOOD FOR D.C., KNOWING THAT, IF IT BECAME A STATE, THERE WOULD BE TWO DEMOCRAT SENATORS AND ONE REPUBLICAN AND ONE. DEMOCRAT REPRESENTATIVE. LIKEWISE, STATEHOOD FOR PUERTO RICO, TWO MORE DEMOCRATS INTO THE SENATE, AND ALSO THEY TALKED ABOUT STACKING THE SUPREME COURT MORE THAN WHAT THERE ARE, SO THAT THERE COULD BE MORE DEMOCRATS THERE.

BUT HOW DO YOU GET UP IN PUBLIC IF YOU HAVE A COLLEGE EDUCATION? AND SAY THAT THE ONE-PARTY SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE IN CALIFORNIA SHOULD BE THE SAME FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY? SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DEBATE THIS, AND THAT WOULD BE EMBARRASSING TO SAY, OH, WE ONLY WANT OUR PARTY AND NO OTHER PARTY, SOMEBODY CONVINCED THE PRESIDENT JUST TO... IGNORE THE BORDER, PRETEND THERE'S NO BORDER THERE. AND HE SAID THAT FOR THE FIRST 100 DAYS OF HIS ADMINISTRATION, PEOPLE COULD COME ACROSS. AND I DO BELIEVE IT'S EXTENDED WELL BEYOND 100 DAYS, JUST TO AVOID A DEBATE. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USED. PEOPLE FROM SOUTH OF THE BORDER HAVE BEEN USED BY THE DEMOCRAT PARTY TO WIN FUTURE ELECTIONS. AND

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SO, I'M A VA CUSTOMER AND A VA EMPLOYEE, AND I'VE HAD GREAT SERVICE FROM THE VA, BY THE WAY. THE VA HOSPITAL IN LA JOLLA, THEY'RE AT THEIR CLINIC IN OCEANSIDE. I HAVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR VA EMPLOYEES, AND I'M SURPRISED ONE OF THEM TOOK A CONCEALED WEAPON. TO A POLICE ACTION.

BACK IN THE DAY WHEN MY GENERATION WAS PROTESTING, WE TOOK FLOWERS TO OUR PROTESTS. FLOWER CHILDREN, NOT GUNS. SO I BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSING ICE, THEY FIT EMMA GOLDMAN'S DEFINITION OF ANARCHISTS. PLEASE. MA'AM, NO MORE. OKAY, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT IT. SO, PLEASE, PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. OKAY, BUT NO MORE, PLEASE. MIKE BORRELLO, CARLSBAD. IF YOU ARE SOLD ON ONE LIE, TRUST TAKES A FIRM FOOTHOLD, SETTING FOUNDATION FOR A MYRIAD. THIS QUOTE WARNS HOW ACCEPTING ONE FALSEHOOD OPENS THE DOOR TO MANY, POTENTIALLY LEADING US DOWN THE PATH OF CHAOS AND DESTRUCTION. WE LIVE IN A COMPLEX WORLD WHERE BAD ACTORS, FOREIGN RIVALS, OPPORTUNISTS, AND MEDIA EXPLOIT OUR WEAKNESSES LIKE FEAR, CONFIRMATION, BIAS, AND TRIBALISM. SOCIAL MEDIA ALGORITHMS, AI-DRIVEN ANALYTICS, AND WELL-PROVEN PSYCHOLOGICAL TACTICS FLOOD OUR SOCIETY WITH DISINFORMATION, CREATE AND AMPLIFY ANGER AND DIVISION, AND TRIGGER ACTION.

THESE PEOPLE, THESE WELL-CONCEALED PUPPET MASTERS, HAVE ARCHITECTURE.

THEY MANIPULATE PUBLIC OPINION, DISTRACT US FROM FACTUAL ISSUES, AND SHIELD CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO FURTHER ENABLE OUR EXPLOITATION.

ON THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE.

NARRATIVES PAINT FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT AS INHUMANE, IGNORING THE TRUE MOTIVE FOR THEIR PRESENCE, THE REAL ECONOMIC STRAINS THAT OCCURRED FROM AN UNCHECKED BORDER UNDER A PRIOR ADMINISTRATION.

AND THAT EMPOWERED CRIME SYNDICATES TO COMMIT UNPRECEDENTED FRAUD, LIKE IN MINNESOTA, AND NOW BEING EXPOSED TO EVEN GREATER EXTENT IN CALIFORNIA. ANY REASONABLE PERSON WOULD NEVER SAY, HEY, LET'S HAVE MORE OF THAT. WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW READY AND WILLING, WE SEE RESISTANCE FROM STATE AND LOCAL LEADERS AND OUR MISGUIDED LEGISLATURE IN SACRAMENTO. THAT ACT IN FAVOR OF THESE SYNDICATES, ENCOURAGING THE PLUNDERING OF AMERICA. ON THIS 250TH YEAR, WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING, NOT BRACING FOR A CIVIL WAR, I BELIEVE HAS ALREADY BEGUN.

WE DON'T NEED A CIVIL WAR. WE NEED PEACEFUL, MEASURED REVOLUTION, THE KIND OUR FOUNDERS WOULD BE PROUD TO SUPPORT. ACTION AGAINST THESE OUTLAW GOVERNMENT LEADERS THAT ASSIST IN OUR ENEMIES GOALS. THAT'S THE ENEMY WITHIN. AS A CHARTER CITY, WE HAVE EMPOWERED OURSELVES TO REJECT UNSOUND LAWS THAT IMPERIL RESIDENTS. I URGE CARLSBAD NOT TO USE THE LEGAL LOOPHOLES FOR NON-COOPERATION WITH FEDERAL AGENTS. EMBRACE COLLABORATION TO UPHOLD LAWFUL ACTIONS THAT PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND RESTORE UNITY.

COOPERATION IS NOT CAPITULATION. IT'S STRENGTH AGAINST MANIPULATION. MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE ARE AT WAR, BUT WE MUST NOT SUCCUMB TO FEAR OR CONFUSION. STRONG LEADERSHIP RELIES ON FACTS, NOT POPULARITY AND NUDGES FROM UNSEEN ACTORS. CONNIE UNGER. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 10-MINUTE BREAK.

WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AT 6.15. OKAY, I'M CALLING THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING PATIENT WITH ME. I APPRECIATE IT.

AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, I ASKED THAT TO MAKE THE MEETING GO SMOOTHER AND TO BE COURTEOUS TO OTHER PEOPLE, TO NOT TO CLAP, NOT TO MAKE NOISES.

AND THEN THAT, BUT CLAPPING, THE CONCERN I HAD WAS WHOEVER'S GETTING CALLED NEXT WON'T HEAR THEIR NAME, STARTS TO BECOME DISRUPTIVE. IF WE ALLOW CLAPPING, THEN WE ALLOW CAT CALLS.

BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, WE'RE AT... OUT OF CONTROL COUNCIL MEETING. SO I AM NOT GOING TO ASK THE LADY

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CONNIE UNGER, FOLLOWED BY FARIS KHAN. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ALL OF YOU. I DON'T ENVY THE POLICE CHIEF, HER JOB, OR THE POLICE CHIEF OF ANY, ESPECIALLY BIG CITIES RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT AN ENVIABLE JOB, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU REALLY HAVE YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT AND SEEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE CALLED TO DO IN YOUR POSITION. I LIVE IN RANCHO, SANTA FE, AND I STAND WITH ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS THROUGHOUT SAN DIEGO COUNTY WHO CONTINUE TO LIVE WITH FEAR FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

AS FEDERAL RESERVE CHAIR JEROME POWELL TOLD THE PUBLIC IN HIS STATEMENT ON JANUARY 11TH, QUOTE, PUBLIC SERVICE SOMETIMES REQUIRES STANDING FIRM IN THE FACE OF THREATS.

WE MUST ALL STAND FIRMLY TOGETHER AT THIS TIME, IN SPITE OF THE RISKS WE FACE AS WE PEACEFULLY AID OUR NEIGHBORS AND SPEAK OUT. I ASK THAT THE ENTIRE CITY, CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL, URGE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO STAND UP FOR ALL CITIZENS AT THIS MOMENT OF CRISIS.

IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IN OUR NATIONS. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO HOW TO DO THIS. I ONLY KNOW THAT.

WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO SEE VIDEOS OF CHILDREN SCREAMING AND CRYING AS THEIR PARENTS ARE TAKEN AWAY, OF KIDS ACTUALLY BEING TAKEN OUT OF SCHOOL AND TAKEN AWAY.

WE MUST DEMAND THAT... THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY THEIR PRIORITY. NO FAMILY, REGARDLESS OF COLOR, SHOULD FEAR LEAVING THEIR HOME, AND PEACEFUL PROTESTERS MUST FEEL SAFE AS THEY EXERCISE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH. THANK YOU. HELLO, THIS IS FERRIS KAHN, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD, AND I DID WANT TO EXPRESS THANKS TO MS. TRUE AND CHIEF CALDERWOOD FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING, VERY CLEAR, VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND. THERE ARE SPECIFIC SITUATIONS THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT. WE DO HAVE, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY. AND COLLABORATION, EVEN WITH OUR CITIZEN PATROLS. WE DO HAVE CITIZEN PATROLS THAT ARE MONITORING ICE ACTIVITY. AND IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE COULD COLLABORATE, IT WOULD INVOLVE TRUST ON BOTH SIDES. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ASK FOR.

ALSO SPECIFIC SITUATIONS. SO THERE'S A SITUATION OF, LET'S SAY THERE'S A CHILD WALKING HOME. SURROUNDED BY UNIDENTIFIED ARMED PEOPLE, UM, SOMEONE CALLS THE POLICE TO COME IN FOR THAT. THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO WHICH HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? AS AS POLICE? UH, WHAT DO WE DO IF WE SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UM, IF THERE'S A BANGING ON THE DOOR, THE NEXT DOOR OVER FROM ME, UM, AND I, AND SOMEBODY CALLS 9-1-1. WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A HOME INVASION, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ICE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT KIND OF SITUATION? ANOTHER SCENARIO IS AN OBSERVER IS RECORDING AN INCIDENT WITH THEIR PHONE AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE A SAFE DISTANCE BACK. BUT AN ICE, SOMEBODY FROM ICE IS APPROACHING THEM AND TRYING TO TAKE THEIR PHONE, OR MAYBE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WORSE IN.

IN OUR VIEW, HOW DO WE HAVE A BARRIER? HOW DO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, POLICE ARE ON THE SCENE, YOU? HOW DO WE HAVE SOME LEVEL OF TRUST? MAYBE IT INVOLVES DRESSING A CERTAIN WAY. MAYBE THERE'S VESTS. I'VE SEEN VESTS BEING USED IN OTHER SITUATIONS. THAT COULD BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS PERSON'S NOT FROM ICE, NOT SUPPORTING ICE, IS TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, THAT ARE LEGALLY RECORDING WHAT IS GOING ON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. MERRICK LODGE, FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER LINSKY. I WANT TO SAY A QUICK THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL AND TO CHIEF CALDERWOOD FOR THIS UPDATE EXPLAINING THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES.

IN EVERY ENCOUNTER THAT I'VE

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SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF A FEDERAL AGENCY ASKS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT ALPR DATA, CLAIMING THEY'RE LOOKING FOR CRIMINALS? WHEN THEY ARE IN FACT LOOKING FOR IMMIGRANTS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS? HOW WILL THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPOND? WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR DETERMINING? WHEN IT IS A FAIR REQUEST. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THAT DATA STORED ANYWHERE THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE CITY? FOR EXAMPLE, DOES MOTOROLA OR VIGILANT HAVE THAT DATA? COULD THEY TURN THAT DATA OVER WITHOUT THE CITY'S CONSENT, IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUESTED IT OR SUBPOENAED IT? THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, THERE WAS AN AUDIT CONDUCTED IN NOVEMBER REGARDING THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ALPR POLICY AND STATE LAW. WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THAT AUDIT? I THINK THAT ALL RESIDENTS OF CARLSBAD EXPECT A REASONABLE RIGHT TO THEIR PRIVACY AND SAFETY WHEN GOING ABOUT THEIR DAY-TO-DAY BUSINESS OR EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. I APPRECIATE THE CITY GOVERNMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S HELP IN THIS MATTER. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JENNIFER LINSKY. I'M A CARLSBAD RESIDENT IN DISTRICT 2 AND A MARINE CORPS VETERAN, HAVING SERVED NEARLY A DECADE AS AN OFFICER. I SHARE SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH EVERYBODY UP HERE ON THE DAIS AND EVERYBODY WEARING A BADGE. WE ALL RAISED OUR RIGHT HAND AND SWORN OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. I'M SURE EACH OF YOU HAVE THINGS JUST LIKE THIS THAT CONTAIN THE OATH.

THOSE WORDS ARE ACTIVE VERBS.

THEY REQUIRE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. THE CONSTITUTION APPLIES TO EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY, NOT JUST CITIZENS, NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO LOOK OR THINK LIKE US, OR WHO WE THINK IT SHOULD APPLY TO.

EVERYONE. OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVE A DUTY TO PROTECT RESIDENTS FROM UNLAWFUL AND ABUSIVE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT TACTICS. OUR POLICE ARE NOT IMMIGRATION AGENTS. THEY ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, CALIFORNIA LAW, AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF ALL RESIDENTS. YET TODAY AND EVERY DAY, WE CONTINUE TO SEE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION...

IMMIGRATION AGENTS ENGAGE IN TACTICS THAT ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL, UNLAWFUL, AND JUST UNNECESSARILY CRUEL.

AS IT HAPPENED TODAY, ON FARADAY, JUST WEST OF ORION, AS I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO GET THERE, AFTER THE ACTION HAD TAKEN PLACE, I WAS THE ONE TO DEAL WITH THE WIFE OF THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS TAKEN.

AFTER THEY HAD SMASHED HIS WINDOW, DRAGGED HIM OUT OF HIS TRUCK, TORE HIS SEATBELT, ALL WITHOUT A WARRANT. DETAINING HIM DESPITE HIM HAVING DOCUMENTATION OF AN ACTIVE IMMIGRATION CASE.

NOT ONLY IS THIS AN INCIDENT, A VIOLATION OF HIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, AND AN UNNECESSARY USE OF FORCE AND INTIMIDATION, THE INCIDENT CREATED A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD ON THE ROAD DURING EARLY MORNING TRAFFIC.

THIS DOES NOTHING BUT PUT MORE OF A BURDEN ON OUR PUBLIC, LOCAL POLICE. WHEN ACTIONS LIKE THIS OCCUR, IN OUR CITY AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT FAILS TO INTERVENE, CLARIFY, OR REFUSE COOPERATION, THE CITY BECOMES COMPLICIT.

SILENCE IS NOT NEUTRALITY, IT IS ENDORSEMENT. WHEN EVEN PEOPLE LIKE ME, A WHITE PRIVILEGED WOMAN, A VETERAN, HESITATE TO CALL OR INTERACT WITH OUR LOCAL POLICE. BECAUSE IT WILL LIKELY RESULT IN EITHER INACTION OR POTENTIALLY MAKE THIS SITUATION MORE DETRIMENT TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED, WHEN RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED, PUBLIC SAFETY HAS ALREADY FAILED. THIS IS NOT POLITICAL.

I AGREE THAT VIOLENT CRIMINALS, HUMAN TRAFFICKERS, DRUG DEALERS SHOULD BE DETAINED, PROSECUTED, DEPORTED. YET WE'RE TAKING VITAL RESOURCES TO TARGET OUR NEIGHBORS, PEOPLE WHO WORK AND LIVE AMONGST US, WHOSE KIDS GO TO SCHOOL WITH OUR KIDS, WHO WILL WORK HARD, CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY, MAKE US BETTER. THIS IS ABOUT THE RULE OF LAW AND WHETHER THIS CITY WILL PROTECT

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MARY DAVIS, FOLLOWED BY JULIANNE LODGE. DO I GET A TIMER? OKAY. OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE. I'M MARY DAVIS, GOVERNMENT WATCHDOG, REGIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNER. AND IT IS FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE CHIEF. THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU STAND ON THIS ISSUE, I THINK WE ALL LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THAT, AND ESPECIALLY, I WAS PRETTY SHOCKED TO SEE FALLON DRIVING AROUND CARLSBAD. SO, BUT I'M USED TO THAT MORE IN EAST COUNTY.

WE GET A LOT OF THAT. AND YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHO IS IN THE CAR NEXT TO YOU, AND THAT COULD BE IN THE CAR NEXT TO YOU, AT THE LIGHT, WITH YOUR KIDS IN THE CAR. WHAT I'M HERE FOR TONIGHT IS TO FIND A BALANCED APPROACH TO THIS AND ALSO A VOICE OF THE VOICELESS AS A WATCHDOG.

TOO OFTEN, I FEEL LIKE I'M ALSO A DECONSTRUCTOR OF NARRATIVES, THAT A NARRATIVE HAS BEEN PAINTED, ICE, BAD, POOR.

BY THE WAY, IT'S A RACIST TROPE, LANDSCAPER, GARDENER.

I'M SURE THERE'S SOME CODERS IN THERE, TOO. THE ISSUE IS, WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THESE POLARIZING TALKING POINTS, FIND COMMON GROUND. I GIVE SALUTE TO DAVE. WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION DURING THAT 15- OR 20-MINUTE BREAK. AND WHAT I'M HERE TODAY IS TO WAKE PEOPLE UP TO THE COLLATERAL DAMAGE, THE PRICE OF SANCTUARY. AND SO, WHILE WE HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE BEING DEPORTED, WHAT HAS NEVER SEEMED TO BE COVERED IN THE MEDIA, IN FACT, MOST OF THE ARTICLES THAT TALK ABOUT THESE KIDS WILL VERY SELDOM MENTION THAT THEY ARE. THE PRICE OF IIV, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT VIOLENCE.

AND SO FAR, I HAVE SIX CHILDREN.

ACTUALLY, NOW I FOUND YESTERDAY SEVEN. THESE CHILDREN PAID THE PRICE FOR SANCTUARY POLICIES.

WHERE IS THE HONORING OF THEM? YOU SEE, I WEAR RED TONIGHT AND THE REASON I DO THAT IS BECAUSE FOR THE BLOOD THAT HAS BEEN SPILLED. I'M PRETTY SHOCKED THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WANT TO HONOR AND PAY TRIBUTE TO TWO WHITE OBSTRUCTIONISTS IN MINNESOTA, WHILE COMPLETELY IGNORING THE BLOOD OF THESE CHILDREN. AND I BRING TO THE ATTENTION THESE THREE GIRLS IN THE BACK.

IN PARTICULAR, THAT WAS COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE. THE DAD HAD A DETAINER, THEY REFUSED TO HONOR IT, AND HE WAS NOT DEPORTED. AND A WEEK LATER, HE GOT A GUN, SOMEHOW, AND KILLED THEM IN A CHURCH, BY THE WAY. THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE CHILDREN WHO ARE SIMPLY INJURED, LIKE THE LITTLE GIRL IN FRESNO WHO HAD HER SKULL REMOVED. AND NOW HAS CEREBRAL PALSY AND IS NOT COMMUNICATED ORALLY. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE LITTLE GIRL THAT WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IN HER BED, IN LINDA VISTA, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, AND HE WASN'T CAUGHT FOR SEVERAL DAYS AFTERWARDS.

THAT PERSON WAS PROWLING AROUND, AND PEOPLE WANT TO DEFEND HIM? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

AND SO TODAY, I JUST CALL OUT FOR ANY TEACHER, YOU ASK, WHICH OF YOUR CHILDREN IN YOUR CLASSROOM ARE DISPOSABLE.

TO BE THE EIGHTH PICTURE ON MY BOARD. AND IF YOU'RE TUCKING YOUR DAUGHTER IN TONIGHT, YOU ASK HER, YOU THINK ABOUT WHETHER SOME... OKAY, ARE WE READY? MY NAME IS JOANNE LODGE. I'M A RESIDENT OF...

OF CARLSBAD TAXPAYER HERE OF OVER 20 YEARS. I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMEND THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT BROUGHT US TOGETHER TONIGHT. MY QUESTION WAS, WILL THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT DOCUMENT, DE-ESCALATE, AND EVEN INTERVENE IF THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND OR SAFETY OF ANYONE WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS IS JEOPARDIZED? AND I BELIEVE, FROM WHAT I HEARD, THE ANSWER WAS YES. SO I...

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC PROMISE. AND NOW, AS IMMIGRATION ACTIVITY CONTINUES TO ESCALATE AND TICK UP IN OUR CITY, WE WAIT TO SEE THIS BE PUT INTO PRACTICE. WE HEARD YOUR PROMISE AND WE WILL HOLD YOU TO IT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. IT'S KIND OF NICE TO LOOK AROUND.

AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANARCHISTS IN THE ROOM. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO MEANS TO HARM ANY

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MISTY O'HEALY, FOLLOWED BY KEVIN FERGUSON. GOOD EVENING TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MISTY O'HEALY. I'M A LONGTIME CARLSBAD RESIDENT, SPOUSE OF A MARINE CORPS VETERAN, AND A CONCERNED CITIZEN.

LIKE MANY OTHERS, I'VE WATCHED THE HORRIFIC EVENTS IN MINNEAPOLIS WITH HEARTBREAK AND CONCERN FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM SO MANY OTHERS. WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR THE AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE DATA SHARING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? IS IT AFTER A SPECIFIC LEVEL OR TYPE OF CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED, OR IS IT MORE BROAD-BASED? I'M CONCERNED THAT DHS REQUESTS ARE MADE THAT DO NOT MEET A HIGH-LEVEL THRESHOLD AND ARE USED TO TARGET OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, WE HAVE SEEN TWO BRUTAL MURDERS IN MINNESOTA OF PEOPLE EXERCISING THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND CLEAR ABUSES BY FEDERAL AGENTS. THAT LED TO ONE OF THE MURDERS. IF CALLED, WHAT WILL CARLSBAD PD DO TO PROTECT CITIZENS FROM ABUSES AND DEATH BY FEDERAL AGENTS WHO ARE ACTING ILLEGALLY AND LAWLESSLY? WILL THEY DEFEND THE INNOCENT CITIZENS OR STAND BY AND DO NOTHING? THANK YOU.

HI, MY NAME IS KEVIN FERGUSON.

I'M A SHORT-TERM RESIDENT AT CARLSBAD. I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE THREE YEARS. JUST RETIRED. I LOVE IT HERE. I HAVE HUGE RESPECT FOR THE POLICE AND THEIR EFFORTS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. I'M NOT A SUPER ACTIVE PERSON IN POLITICS BEYOND VOTING, BUT THESE ARE UNPRECEDENTED TIMES. I'M SURPRISED AND CONCERNED WITH THE DIVISIVENESS IN OUR COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITY.

IN MY OPINION, NO MATTER HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IMMIGRANTS AND IMMIGRATION, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT MOST OF US WOULD AGREE THAT THE METHODS AND TACTICS BEING EMPLOYED BY FEDERAL AGENTS IS A PROBLEM.

READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE BEFORE THIS MEETING WAS DISTURBING TO ME, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHY I'M HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE THOSE COMMENTS ANY AIRTIME.

READING THE POLICY AND TRAINING ITEMS POSTED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS VERY ENCOURAGING. THANKS FOR BRINGING THE TOPIC UP, AND THANK YOU TO THE POLICE CHIEF FOR COMING. MOST OF MY CONCERNS FROM...

PERSPECTIVE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS SUPPORTING CONSTITUTION, STATE LAWS AND ALL THAT, I FEEL ENCOURAGED BY THAT. IT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD. MY MAIN POINT IS JUST THE ISSUE OF DUE PROCESS AND PEACEFUL PROTEST.

AND I GUESS MY ONE QUESTION WOULD BE, HAS YOUR DEPARTMENT HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BEING ENCOURAGED TO BEING DRAWN INTO THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AND TACTICS THAT WE'RE SEEING DEPLOYED? AND HAVE YOU HAD ANY ISSUES WITH PEACEFUL PROTESTS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL? I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WASN'T THE CASE, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT CONFIRMED. THANK YOU. KRISTEN FARINA, FOLLOWED BY TINA ZUCKER. HI. MY NAME IS KRISTEN FARINA AND I'M A NEWER RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD. I SPOKE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT MY CONCERN ABOUT THE UPTICK IN ICE ACTIVITY IN CARLSBAD, AND I WANT TO SHARE THAT. SINCE THAT LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE ABDUCTIONS IN OUR CITY HAVE ONLY BECOME MORE FREQUENT AND MORE VIOLENT. WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY BEFORE ME, AND I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR FROM MORE AFTER ME.

ABOUT NOT WANTING TO LIVE IN A LAWLESS CITY. IN FACT, WE'VE HEARD STRONG CALLS TO ACTION TO ASK CPD TO CONTINUE TO ENFORCE THE LAWS. AND, FRANKLY, I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. SO I COME TO ALL OF YOU WITH A SIMILAR ASK. PLEASE CONTINUE TO ENFORCE THE LAWS OF CARLSBAD IN CALIFORNIA TO PROTECT ALL THE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY. AND I REALLY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW REFRESHING IT WAS TO HEAR FROM YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU ARE COMMITTED TO FOLLOWING S.B.

54. BUT MY BIGGER ASK, AND HONESTLY WHERE I COULD USE SOME FURTHER CLARITY, IS, IS CPD COMMITTED TO UPHOLDING EVERY SINGLE PART OF OUR CONSTITUTION FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF OUR CITY? THIS INCLUDES, BUT SURELY ISN'T LIMITED TO, THE RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS FOR EVERYONE. I CAN ASSURE YOU FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY AFTER SOMEONE IS TAKEN, THAT THERE ARE MANY INSTANCES WHERE THESE AGENTS ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION. I'M ALSO HERE TO OFFER MY SUPPORT. I KNOW THIS CANNOT BE AN EASY TIME

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RENEE NICOLE GOOD, MURDERED.

RENEE NICOLE GOOD, SHE WAS ALL OF US. SHE WAS ANY ONE OF US WHO WANTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD. WE COULD BE HER ANY DAY NOW. SHE HOPED THAT SOMETHING SHE DID, OR COULD DO, WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I FEEL HER INSIDE OF ME. I FEEL HER SADNESS ABOUT THE STATE OF LIFE. THERE ARE NO MORE STARS FOR HER TO WISH ON. SHE THOUGHT WE SHOULD ALL JUST LIVE TOGETHER IN HARMONY, AS WE HAVE FOR DECADES. IT MOVED, SORRY.

PROBLEM WITH CELL PHONES. I FEEL HER FEAR WHEN THE OFFICER GRABBED THE CAR DOOR AND BEGAN YANKING IT. THE HORROR SHE MUST HAVE FELT WHEN A GUN WAS HELD UP TO HER AND SHE COULD NOT STOP THE BULLETS. I WEEP FOR HER BECAUSE SHE CAN'T BREATHE.

THIS IS A WORLD GONE MAD AND I CAN'T STOP CRYING. THIS IS A LITTLE SARCASTIC ABOUT ALEX PREDDY. ALEX WAS SHOT AND KILLED BY FEDERAL AGENTS IN MINNEAPOLIS ON JANUARY 24TH DURING A PROTEST REGARDING INCREASED IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IN THE CITY. HE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW TO HELP A WOMAN WHO FELL. HE ALSO DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS LEGAL.

FOR ICE AGENTS TO KICK AND SHOOT HIM FOR NO REASON AT ALL. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WHAT I WOULD HAVE TO WEAR NOW IS A SIGN SAYING, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T SHOOT ME, PLEASE DON'T KILL ME. I GREW UP IN NEW YORK CITY BELIEVING THAT THE POLICE WOULD ALWAYS PROTECT ME, AND NOW I'M NOT SO SURE.

THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CARLSBAD POLICE OR THE SOLANA BEACH POLICE. IT JUST HAS TO DO WITH THE STATE OF THE WORLD. IT NEEDS TO CHANGE, PLEASE. DIANA AGUIRRE, FOLLOWED BY CHI-WU CHANG. GOOD EVENING. THE ONLY THING THAT IS MORE POWERFUL THAN HATE IS LOVE. SO I'M HERE WITH LOVE. BAD BUNNY. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR COUNCIL MEMBER TERESA COSTA FOR TAKING OUR FEEDBACK FROM THE LAST MEETING AND BRINGING THIS PRESENTATION AND AGENDA. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT REALLY SHOWS THE POWER NOT ONLY OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE POWER THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING THIS FORTH. SO I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO WANT TO SAY I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE WONDERFUL CARLSBAD PD.

THIS PRESENTATION WAS AMAZING.

AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER TESTAMENT OF HOW STRONG OUR CARLSBAD PD IS AND HOW WILLING THEY ARE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE COLLABORATION. I DID LEARN A LOT THIS EVENING, AND I AM VERY CONCERNED AS A CITIZEN OR RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD, AND AS YOU CAN SEE BY THIS ROOM, IT'S MORE THAN JUST A FEW OF US. IT'S A LOT OF US THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF ICE.

WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY IS THAT PERHAPS THERE COULD BE SOME DATA ON HOW MUCH FUNDS ARE SPENT ON ANY ACTIVITY WITH ICE, PERHAPS SPECIFICALLY TO IMMIGRATION. IT WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO OUR 911 CALLS. HOW MANY OF THE 911 CALLS ARE COMING IN ARE RELATED TO ICE CALLS? AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE DATA AS FAR AS THE AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER, HOW THE DATA IS SHARED. AND WHO IT IS SHARED WITH, AND IF IT'S BEEN SHARED IN THE PAST. THEN ONE MORE ASK I HAVE IS, DO WE RENT OUR POLICE FACILITIES OUT TO ICE FOR ANY, YOU KNOW, THE SHOOTING RANGE, WHATNOT? I THINK THE REQUESTS THIS EVENING HAVE BEEN PRETTY REASONABLE, CONSIDERING THE HIGH EMOTIONS OF THE ROOM. SO AGAIN, I'M VERY HAPPY THAT I LIVE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY. I'M GRATEFUL FOR COUNSEL AND PD THAT WERE ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY AND ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMUNICATION AND SPEAK OUR MINDS. SO THANK YOU. MAYOR, MAYOR, POTEM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. I'M A GRADUATE OF

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DIFFERENT. I'M GOING TO READ A POEM TO EXPRESS MY ANXIETY OF ICE AGING, ROAMING OUR STREET, AND MY WISH FOR US TO ACT TOGETHER TO RAISE OUR VOICE TO KEEP ICE OUT. HERE'S THE POEM. IN THE SHADOWS OF OUR CITY LIGHT, A SILENT FEAR CREEPS IN AT THE LINE. ICE AGENTS AT OUR DOOR STAND, NO WARRANT IN THEIR STRETCHED HANDS. THEY ROAM OUR STREET WITH CRUEL INTENT. INNOCENT AND PEACE THEY CIRCUMVENT. A CHILD'S LAUGHTER, NOW A DISSIDENT CRY. SORRY. AS FAMILIES BREAK AND LAST ONE SIGH IN HOME, WHERE WARMTH AND SAFETY DWELL, A SUDDEN TEAR BEGINS TO SWELL.

FOR IN THE NIGHT, THE AGING CALM, AND FOR THE LIGHT, THE DARK SWAN. FEAR WE ARE, BUT OVERCOME, WE, SURE. SO LET'S RAISE UP. OUR VOICE.

FOR JUSTICE, LOVE, AND UNITY.

FOR PEACE, DIGNITY, AND HUMANITY. MAY NO ONE FEARS AND HEARTBREAK FLOW.

IN A CITY WHERE KINDNESS, LOVE, AND COMPASSION GROW. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

SOCORRO ANDERSON, FOLLOWED BY KATRINA CHAMBERS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE CHIEF FOR HER REPORT. I READ THROUGH THE STATE LAWS AND DEFINED THE LIMITS OF LOCAL INVOLVEMENT IN FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. VERY LONG. SPENT ALL DAY READING UP TO... GAVE ME A HEADACHE. BUT ANYWAY, I AM HERE AND NOT...

TO DENIGRATE ANYONE, WHETHER YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT, WHETHER YOU LIVE IN CARLSBAD OR NOT LIVE IN CARLSBAD.

BUT NO ONE HAS SEEN THE IMPACT OF IMMIGRATION IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, BECAUSE I WORK WITH THE FAMILIES IN THE HISPANIC AREA OF CARLSBAD, AND WE HAVE FIVE FAMILIES WHO'VE LOST THEIR LIVES. THEIR FATHER HAVE BEEN DEPORTED. I DON'T KNOW WHY, AND I DON'T ASK WHY, BUT I HAVE THREE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WITHOUT A FATHER. I HAVE TWO ELEMENTARY STUDENTS WITHOUT A MOTHER. SO NO ONE SEES THE IMPACT OF THE IMMIGRATION LAWS OR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTRY THAN I DO, BECAUSE I WORK IN THE MARIO. I, I. I SEE FAMILIES EVERY SINGLE DAY. I DO A FOOD PANTRY AND 30% OF OUR HISPANIC RESIDENTS ARE NOT COMING IN BECAUSE THEY'RE STAYING HOME, AFRAID TO GO OUT. SO I'M HAVING TO FUNNEL VOLUNTEERS TO DELIVER FOOD, NOT ONLY TO FAMILIES, CHILDREN AND FOR SENIORS. SENIORS ARE ALSO MOST VULNERABLE.

IN THAT AREA AS WELL.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS, THANK YOU, CHIEF. I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU MANY TIMES ABOUT OUR FAMILIES, AND I KNOW OF YOUR CONCERN OF OUR FAMILIES. AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE READ ALL OF THESE LAWS, AND EVERYONE SHOULD PROBABLY GO ON TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S PORTAL AND TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THESE LAWS, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY MEAN.

WE CAN'T JUST KIND OF THROW DIRT HERE AND THERE.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTRY IS SAD, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FAMILIES OF CARLSBAD, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR. YOU'RE DOING, I THINK, THE CHIEF AND THE POLICE ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.

I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM SPEAKING TO ANY OF THEM OR ASKING ANY OF THEM TO COME AND CHECK. OR TALK OF WHATEVER. HELLO, MY NAME IS

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WILL YOU PLEASE PULL THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH? THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO LIVE HERE IN CARLSBAD FOR SO LONG. I FREQUENTED THE DOVE LIBRARY MOST DAYS OF THE WEEK WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE.

AND SEEING THE VIDEO OF THE AGENTS, MULTIPLE CARS, MULTIPLE MASKED MEN WITH GUNS THERE, SOMEWHERE THAT I HAD WALKED IN AND OUT OF SO MANY TIMES, MADE ME VERY SCARED. AND SO MY QUESTION IS, COULD WE PLEASE CLARIFY THE COMMENT ABOUT THE MISINFORMATION THAT WENT OUT ABOUT THAT INCIDENT? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S CONFUSING. DID SOMETHING HAPPEN THERE OR NOT? WAS IT SCARY OR NOT? AND UNDERSTANDABLY, WHEN THINGS ARE MADE MORE DRAMATIC THAN THEY ARE, THAT MAKES MORE FEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT NOT ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT ACTUALLY MAY HAVE HAPPENED ALSO, I THINK, QUIETS PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE AFRAID. AND I THINK THAT THE PERSON THAT I SPOKE, THE PERSON THAT JUST SPOKE, THAT FEAR AND THOSE CONCERNS ARE, OF COURSE, SO MUCH DEEPER. AND I THINK ALL OF US IN CARLSBAD HAVE SO MANY CONCERNS ABOUT WHICHEVER PART OF CARLSBAD WE LIVE IN. AND WANTING TO KEEP IT SAFE AND CLEAN AND OUR COMMUNITY STRONG, WHICH MEANS WE SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD. AND QUESTIONS ANSWERED. AND SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THIS CONVERSATION HERE AND THE OPENNESS THAT HAS BEEN SHARED.

THANK YOU. QUICK COMMENT.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ASKING QUESTIONS, THE CHIEF IS WRITING AS FAST AS SHE CAN. AND I SEE HER AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE OF QUESTIONS. SHE'S TAKING NOTES. AND AS SOON AS ALL THE SPEAKERS ARE FINISHED, SHE'S GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS AS MANY AS SHE CAN.

SO I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS AND NOT GETTING AN ANSWER TO THEM. TERRY BARRON, FOLLOWED BY AUNT AUDREY CRITCHLOW. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR, PRO TEM, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS TERRY BARRON, AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT 1, AND I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD. MY PARENTS HAVING THE BRILLIANT INSIGHT OF MOVING HERE IN 1958. I APPLAUD THE COUNCIL STAFF AND OUR POLICE CHIEF FOR THE SIGNIFICANT, CRUCIAL STATEMENT INCLUDED IN TODAY'S STAFF REPORT, QUOTE, CARLSBAD POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW, DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN IMMIGRATION RAIDS, AND ARE NOT INVOLVED IN IMMIGRATION-FOCUSED OPERATIONS, UNQUOTE. THANK YOU FOR THAT SO MUCH.

ADDITIONALLY, CARLSBAD PD'S STATED POLICY OF PROTECTING AND SERVING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND RECOGNIZING THE DIGNITY OF ALL PERSONS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR NATIONAL ORIGIN OR IMMIGRATION STATUS, IS ESSENTIAL. WHEN ICE TARGETS COMMUNITY MEMBERS BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN, THE LANGUAGE THEY SPEAK.

VERDAD? THEIR PHYSICAL APPEARANCE OR THEIR PEACEFUL, LAWFUL OPPOSITION TO THEIR ACTS OF TERRORISM. I'M CERTAIN YOU DON'T WANT ANY MAN, WOMAN, OR CHILD IN THIS COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN FEAR OR TO BE TREATED INHUMANELY BECAUSE OF ICE. SO WHAT FUTURE ACTIONS CAN YOU SPECIFICALLY TAKE TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS? WE ARE INDEED LIVING IN EXTRAORDINARY TIMES WHEN COURAGE AND MORAL RESOLVE ARE NEEDED WHEN MAKING DECISIONS AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. PLEASE CONTINUE TO BE PROACTIVE IN SUPPORTING ALL HUMAN RIGHTS AND PROTECTING ALL CARLSBAD

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GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AUDREY CRITCHLOW, AND I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND THE POLICE CHIEF FOR HER PRESENTATION. I'M A RECENTLY RETIRED TEACHER FROM ENCINITAS UNION SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHERE I TAUGHT FOR 37 YEARS AND WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY. AS YOU ALL KNOW, RELATIONSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS ARE BUILT ON TRUST. TRUST IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL IN ORDER TO BUILD BRIDGES, ALLIANCES, CONNECTIONS, AND RAPPORT.

BASED ON YOU, THE ATROCIOUS ACTIVITY OF FEDERAL AGENTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NOT A SHRED OF TRUST OR CONFIDENCE IN ICE OR BORDER PATROL AND THEIR ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAW. THESE AGENTS ARE NOT GOING AFTER THE WORST OF THE WORST.

WE'D ACTUALLY BE WITH THEM IF THEY WERE.

THEY'RE TAKING VALUABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND ARE ABSOLUTELY ABUSING THEIR POWER.

THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN UNBRIDLED AUTHORITY.

TO DO WHAT THEY WANT, AND IT'S CRUEL. SO MY QUESTION TO THE CARLSBAD POLICE IS, I KNOW YOU COVERED SOME OF THIS IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT CAN THE COMMUNITY TRUST YOU? CAN WE TRUST YOU TO PROTECT OUR VULNERABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS? CAN THE COMMUNITY TRUST THAT YOU WILL INTERVENE WHEN YOU WITNESS FEDERAL AGENTS USING UNLAWFUL FORCE? ARE YOU GOING TO INTERVENE WHEN YOU SEE CIVIL RIGHTS BEING VIOLATED, SUCH AS RACIAL PROFILING AND WARRANTLESS ARRESTS? THE COMMUNITY NEEDS YOU AND WANTS TO TRUST YOU. YOU HAVE POWER AND AUTHORITY, SO HOW WILL YOU USE IT? WHEN HUMAN BEINGS ENDURE SUFFERING, IT'S TIME TO STAND UP. THANK YOU. BETH BARNUM, FOLLOWED BY RICHARD NEWTON. GOOD EVENING. I UNDERSTAND THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT'S HANDS ARE TIED WITH S.B. 54. HENCE, UNDOCUMENTED CRIMINALS ARE RELEASED TO THE STREETS INSTEAD OF BEING HANDED OVER TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

THIS CAUSES CHAOS AND SAFETY ISSUES. I 100% SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT AND LOCAL POLICE IN KEEPING OUR CITIES SAFE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR BLACKBURN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AND THE PUBLIC, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. ARTICLE 01, SECTION 8, GIVES CONGRESS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE AUTHORITY OVER IMMIGRATION. CONGRESS SETS THE LEVELS OF IMMIGRATION AS IT DEEMS NECESSARY. ARTICLE 2 OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION OBLIGATES THE EXECUTIVE, THAT'S OUR PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP, TO ENFORCE THE LAW. HE ENFORCES THOSE LAWS SET FORTH BY CONGRESS. DO NOT BLAME PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. HE'S DOING WHAT A PREVIOUS PRESIDENT SHOULD HAVE DONE AND NEVER DID.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE ENFORCEMENT, THEN PETITION CONGRESS. YOU CAN ARGUE FOR THE MERITS OF IMMIGRATION THERE, BUT DO NOT OBSTRUCT LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THEIR OPERATIONS. THE LEFT LOVES TO SAY NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. BUT IF THE PRESIDENT IS NOT EXEMPT, THEN FOREIGN NATIONALS WHO ENTERED OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY CERTAINLY ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. SO THE LAW DOES NEED TO BE ENFORCED, AND PRESIDENT TRUMP IS PROPER TO ENFORCE IT. REGARDING ICE, I AGREE THAT THE OPTICS LOOK BAD.

BUT THAT DOES NOT NEGATE THE NEED TO ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAW. SO THINK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT HOW ARROGANT AND FOOLISH IT WOULD BE TO STEP ONTO A BALL FIELD AND TAKE THE BAT FROM A BATTER AND TELL HIM HOW TO BAT, OR TO GO INTO A COCKPIT AND TAKE CONTROLS OF THE PLANE FROM THE PILOT, OR A SCALPEL FROM A SURGEON DURING SURGERY. ALL ARE FOOLISH AND ARROGANT ACTS, TO SAY THE LEAST. FOOLISHNESS AND ARROGANCE DESCRIBES PROTESTERS INTERVENING AND OBSTRUCTING WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR DUTIES. THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS JUMPING IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE OPERATIONS. IT IS A SHAME THAT RENE GOOD AND ALEX PREDDY HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THESE CONFRONTATIONS AND OBSTRUCTIONS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS, BUT THE RESULTS WERE ENTIRELY PREDICTABLE. SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT SACRIFICE OUR NATION OR ITS LAWS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE STUPIDITY OF A FEW PEOPLE, TO PUT IT BLUNTLY. ONE FINAL POINT. IF ICE AGENTS ARE POORLY TRAINED, AS THOSE ON THE LEFT ALLEGE, THEN THE SOLUTION IS NOT TO ABANDON OUR LAWS. BUT TO

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UNDOCUMENTED ALIEN IMPLIES THAT THERE WAS A PAPERWORK ERROR, THAT A SECRETARY FORGOT TO FILE A FORM, THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T GET THEIR LICENSE IN THE MAIL. THAT'S NOT UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS. THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO ENTERED THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, AND THEY NEED TO BE DEPORTED.

THANK YOU. VICKY SAEZ, FOLLOWED BY NICOLE STEFANKO-FOENTES.

HELLO, ALL. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ACOSTA, FOR BRINGING THIS UP, AND THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR YOUR WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. YOU DID CLARIFY A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION. HOWEVER, I STILL FEEL LIKE WE'RE AT THE 10,000-FOOT LEVEL, AND I'M GOING TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD BEFORE. THE PRESENTATION WAS PREDICATED ON AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WERE ACTING IN GOOD FAITH, ARE WELL TRAINED, AND ARE ACTING IN A LAWFUL MANNER. THAT HASN'T BEEN THE CASE WITH ICE. I'M GOING TO QUOTE JOHN MITNICK. JOHN MITNICK WAS ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY WHEN IT WAS FORMED IN 2022. HE SERVED AS GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY DURING THE FRONT. FIRST, TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, QUOTE, I AM ENRAGED AND EMBARRASSED BY DHS'S LAWLESSNESS, FASCISM, AND CRUELTY. SO MY QUESTION IS, AND WHAT I DIDN'T GET ANSWERED FROM THE PRESENTATION, IS WHAT DO WE AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS DO IF WE SEE THESE LAWLESS, CRUEL, AND FASCIST ACTIONS HAPPENING? WHAT DO I DO IF THEY'RE BANGING ON MY DOOR DEMANDING TO COME IN WITHOUT A SIGNED JUDICIAL WARRANT. I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. I DON'T, BY RIGHT, HAVE TO CARRY ANY IDENTIFICATION ON ME. BUT IF I DON'T, THEY'LL BREAK MY WINDOWS, PULL ME OUT OF THE CAR. IF I FIGHT BACK, THEY'LL SHOOT ME DEAD. WHAT DO I DO WITH MY 94-YEAR-OLD MOTHER WHO LOVES TO GO TO THE DOVE LIBRARY WITH HER? LEGAL CITIZEN AND LEGAL DOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT, GREEN CARD IMMIGRANT, CARETAKER? WHAT DO I DO IF THEY JUST COME UP BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN? OR THEIR ACCENTS, OR THEY SPEAK SPANISH AND TAKE HER AWAY.

SHE'S IN A WHEELCHAIR. WILL SHE, IN HER FLUSTERING, BE ABLE TO REMEMBER TO CALL MY NAME? MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN SANTA MONICA, AND WHEN ICE CAME TO LA, SHE WITNESSED FIRSTHAND ICE SWARMING IN AT THE LOCAL PARKS. AND TAKING AWAY ALL THE NANNIES WHO WERE BROWN-SKINNED AND LEAVING BABIES IN THEIR CARRIAGES, IN THEIR STROLLERS AND ON THE PARK ALONE. THEY LEFT HIM IN THE PARK. IT WAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT CAME TO THEIR RESCUE. SO I NEED SOME CONCRETE EXAMPLES. I NEED SOME WHAT TO DO. I APPRECIATE WHAT CARLSBAD'S DONE. I APPRECIATE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BUT IT'S ALL PREDICATED ON WORKING WITH LAWFUL FEDERAL AGENCIES, AND NOT THE LAWLESSNESS THAT EXISTS NOW. SO MAYBE A FOLLOW-UP MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE IF THE COUNCIL SO DESIRES TO, BECAUSE I DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE ANSWERS.

FOR THESE QUESTIONS TONIGHT, BUT MAYBE WE COULD DO A MORE IN-DEPTH FOLLOW-UP. THANK YOU.

AS SOMEONE WHO LOVES THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, WITH ITS EMBRACING OF THE TERM BARRIO CARLSBAD AND CARLSBAD'S HISTORY, I AM HERE TO QUESTION. NOT HOW CARLSBAD WILL INTERACT WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES, PARTICULARLY ICE. BUT HOW CARLSBAD PD WILL POLICE THEM.

WHAT WILL THEY DO ABOUT VIOLENT ICE AGENTS? WHAT WILL THEY DO ABOUT THE LAWLESSNESS WE HAVE ALL WITNESSED? WHY WOULD A VICTIM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING, FOR EXAMPLE, BENEFIT FROM THEN HAVING TO DEAL WITH POORLY TRAINED ICE AGENTS? ANY APPEARANCE OF AIDING AND ABETTING ICE PRESENCE IN CARLSBAD, WHEN THEY VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS TO DUE PROCESS, COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO THE CHAOS WE ARE SEEING IN OTHER CITIES. IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE VERY BAD FOR CRIME PREVENTION IF PEOPLE FEEL TOO FRIGHTENED TO TALK TO THE CARLSBAD POLICE. IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE NEGATIVE FOR LOCAL ECONOMIES, TOURISM, CONSTRUCTION, AND

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MOST OF THEM ARE GUILTY OF CIVIL MISDEMEANORS. PLEASE RESEARCH THE CASES WHERE ICE AGENTS HAVE BRUTALIZED AND TERRORIZED MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN IN THE STREET OR LANGUISHING IN DETAINMENT. WE DON'T WANT TO BECOME OTEY MESA. WE DON'T NEED TO BE ESCONDIDO, WHICH JUST RENEWED THEIR CONTRACT WITH ICE, TO USE THEIR FIRING RANGE.

JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, A FATHER TAKING HIS CHILD TO SCHOOL WAS DETAINED IN ESCONDIDO, AND WITNESSES COULD HEAR THE CHILD CRYING LOUDLY, THEY ARE GOING TO KILL DADDY.

THAT IS NOT WHAT OUR DIVERSE AND VIBRANT CARLSBAD COMMUNITY IS ABOUT. WE CANNOT HAVE ICE AGENTS STALKING PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND SCARING ALL OF OUR CHILDREN. EVEN THE MOST APOLITICAL PERSON SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WILL CARLSBAD PD DO IF ICE AGENTS ARE BREAKING THE LAW AND VIOLATING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS? BECAUSE A SMALL MAJORITY IS POSSIBLY GUILTY OF A CIVIL MISDEMEANOR, USUALLY JUST SO THEY CAN WORK? I'M ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE USE OF FLOC DATA, AND I KNOW THAT THE FLOC WEBSITE SAYS THAT THEY DON'T TRANSMIT DATA TO ICE, BUT MANY CITY COUNCILS HAVE CANCELED THEIR CONTRACTS BECAUSE POLICE DEPARTMENTS WERE, IN FACT, TRANSMITTING THAT DATA. AND I JUST DON'T THINK IMMIGRATION IS A GOOD USE FOR THAT DATA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LEAH BOZAY, FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE WARD. HELLO, MY NAME IS LEAH BOZAY. TO THE CARLSBAD POLICE CHIEF AND DEPARTMENT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHTFUL, TRANSPARENT, AND COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW TODAY. I AM AN EDUCATED PRIVACY PROFESSIONAL, I'M THE SPOUSE OF A 20-YEAR USMC VETERAN, AND I'M A DEEPLY CARING MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND I AM A PROUD AMERICAN.

IN CONSIDERATION OF THE CURRENT POSITION, I'M EXPRESSING MY CONCERNS AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY. ISIS ATTACKS ON OUR CITIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES ARE RECKLESS AND REPREHENSIBLE. THE FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION'S APPROACH HAS ALWAYS BEEN FEAR AND DIVISION.

AND THIS IS ABUNDANTLY EVIDENT THROUGH THEIR BLATANT DISREGARD AND SEVERE MISCONDUCT FOR DUE PROCESS IN OUR CONSTITUTION. WE MUST CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES AND CONTINUED INTERACTIONS WITH ICE WILL LEAD TO UNNECESSARY HARM AND LOSS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I ASK, ARE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT RESOURCES OR FACILITIES BEING SHARED OR ALLOCATED TO ICE OR DHS? AS A PRIVACY PROFESSIONAL, I'D ALSO APPRECIATE ADDITIONAL TRANSPARENCY INTO THE LICENSE PLATE DATA AND THE BROAD SHARING OF IT. OR THE...

BETTER, I GUESS, IN WHICH EXPRESS INSTANCES ARE THOSE SHARED. GOING FORWARD, PLEASE CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES, INTERVENING WHEN NECESSARY TO PROTECT LIFE, SAFETY, AND DE-ESCALATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW, AND THAT'S PARAMOUNT TO PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITIES.

FINALLY, THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL AND CPD FOR HEARING ALL OF OUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

AND MOST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR SPEAKING HERE TODAY.

EVERYTHING'S SO IMPORTANT. I'M PROUD TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

HELLO MAYOR BLACKBURN, MAYOR PRO TEM, BHAT PATEL, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MICHELLE STOGAL-WARD AND I'M A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY. I WANT TO BEGIN BY SAYING THAT I REALLY LOVE THIS TOWN A LOT.

CARLSBAD IS WELL RUN. AND FOR THAT I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND OUR CITY EMPLOYEES FOR THEIR EXCELLENT WORK THAT THEY DO. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR BEING PROFESSIONAL, RESPONSIVE, AND GENUINELY COMMUNITY-ORIENTED. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

AS A FIRST-GENERATION AMERICAN, A PARENT, A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, THIS IS A FRIGHTENING TIME.

AND I'M DEEPLY, DEEPLY CONCERNED. WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW

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IT HAS DIRECTLY AFFECTED CARLSBAD FAMILIES AND SCHOOL ATTENDANCE, WHICH IN TURN, HARMS OUR SCHOOL COMMUNITIES.

MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU CONTINUE TO LEAD THE CITY IN A WAY THAT PRIORITIZES THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND THAT YOU SUPPORT THE OUTSTANDING CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT IN CONTINUING TO UPHOLD THE LAW, REGARDLESS OF WHO IS BREAKING IT, EVEN WHEN THAT INVOLVES FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS. OUR CARLSBAD FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITY DESERVE THAT PROTECTION. SAM WARD, FOLLOWED BY SCOTT DAVIDSON. HI, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SAM WARD. I ALWAYS HAVE TO ADJUST IT AFTER MICHELLE. I'M A LONGTIME DISTRICT 1 RESIDENT AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I ACTUALLY HAD INTENDED TO WRITE A LETTER TO YOU RATHER THAN SHOW UP TONIGHT, BUT WHEN I SAW SOME OF THE LETTERS TODAY THAT WERE COMING IN. ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO COME SUPPORT ICE AND EQUATING THE ACTIONS OF ICE WITH OUR POLICE FORCE, I WAS APPALLED. I THINK OUR NEXT SPEAKER MAY DO THE SAME THING.

WE ARE WELL SERVED IN THIS CITY BY A PROFOUNDLY PROFESSIONAL POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'VE SEEN THAT TONIGHT, WITH THE COMMENTS BY CHIEF CALDERWOOD. AND HER CONTINUED DEDICATION AND THE DEDICATION OF EVERY OFFICER IN THIS COMMUNITY TO UPHOLD STATE LAW AND UPHOLD THE SAFETY AND SANCTITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. THE PROBLEM IS NOT CARLSBAD PD. IT IS NOT THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD, DOCUMENTED OR UNDOCUMENTED.

MINUTE. IT IS THE THOUSANDS OF LAWLESS AND POORLY VETTED AND POORLY TRAINED ICE OFFICERS WHO HAVE INVADED COMMUNITIES AND BROUGHT CHAOS WITH THEM TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

IN ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AGAINST PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED NO SERIOUS CRIME, WE HAVE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THESE POORLY VETTED, POORLY TRAINED OFFICERS VIOLATE THE FIRST AND FOURTH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION. COUNTLESS, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE USE PEOPLE'S EXECUTION OF THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS AS AN EXCUSE TO GUN THEM DOWN IN THE STREETS AND CALL THEM NAMES. WHILE THEIR BODIES ARE STILL GETTING COLD. IT IS APPALLING BEHAVIOR WE HAVE SEEN. AND I THINK WHAT YOU'VE SEEN FROM SPEAKERS TONIGHT IS WE JUST WANT THE PEACE AND SAFETY OF THIS COMMUNITY TO BE MAINTAINED. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. A HEAVY ICE PRESENCE. IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO THAT PEACE OR THAT SAFETY.

SO, I WOULD ENCOURAGE CHIEF CALDERWOOD TO CONTINUE THE ACTIONS SHE HAS UNDERTAKEN AND TO ENCOURAGE HER OFFICERS TO ENFORCE THE LAW, BOTH FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR CITIZENS. AND, AS IT HAPPENS, IF FEDERAL OFFICERS ARE ACTING OUTSIDE OF THEIR AUTHORITY, ARE ACTING OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL BOUNDS.

TO ACT TO MAINTAIN THE SAFETY OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIS COMMUNITY AND ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS. THANK YOU.

DEAR MAYOR BLACKBURN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE MY FULL SUPPORT FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. AS A RECENT GRADUATE OF THE CITIZENS ACADEMY, I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND THAT OUR CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT IS SECOND TO NONE. WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO CARLSBAD IN 2006, CHIEF CALDERWOOD WOULD OFTEN RESPOND TO MY CALLS IN CALAVERA HILLS, BACK WHEN, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAD WAS KIDS VANDALIZING OUR COMMUNITY POOL.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO STATE. THE VALUE OF HAVING PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR OUR CITY ALSO BE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND UNDERSTAND OUR UNIQUE CULTURE AND COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU, CHIEF CALDERWOOD, FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO CARLSBAD. OVER THE YEARS, I'VE BECOME FRIENDS WITH MANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT ARE PROUD TO CALL CARLSBAD HOME. SOME WORK FOR CPD, SOME AS SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, AND SOME FOR THE HIGHWAY PATROL, AND SOME FOR THE HARBOR POLICE, AND SOME FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

ALMOST ALL OF THEM HAVE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS. AS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THEY ARE CHARGED WITH ENFORCING THE LAWS, NOT MAKING THEM. IF YOU DON'T LIKE A LAW, GET RID OF THE LAW, OR THE LAWMAKER, BUT NOT THE PEOPLE ENFORCING IT. APPARENTLY, THIS LAST POINT HAS BECOME DIFFICULT FOR SOME PEOPLE AS LATE.

INSTEAD OF TARGETING THE IMMIGRATION LAWS, THEY'RE TARGETING THE IMMIGRATION OFFICERS WHO ARE ENFORCING

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BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN PUSHING THEIR ABOLISH THE POLICE RHETORIC IN OUR SCHOOLS FOR YEARS, TRYING TO TEACH ETHNIC STUDIES COURSES THAT LABEL POLICE AS A REPRESSIVE STATE APPARATUS. AND USING PALATABLE GROUPS LIKE MOMS, DEMAND ACTION TO REMOVE RACIST SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS FROM OUR SCHOOLS. THE IRONY APPEARS TO BE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO USED TO YELL ABOUT ABOLISHING THE POLICE AND ARE NOW YELLING ABOUT ABOLISHING ICE. ARE NOW BEGGING CARLSBAD POLICE FOR HELP TO SOMEHOW STOP ICE.

PERHAPS TONIGHT WE CAN ASK THEM TO MAKE UP THEIR MINDS. DO THEY REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE INSTITUTION OF POLICING IS RACIST AND MUST BE ABOLISHED? OR DO THEY REALLY JUST WANT THE POLICE TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT THEY LIKE AND IGNORE THE ONES THAT THEY WANT TO BREAK? WE CAN DISAGREE ON A LOT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN MINNEAPOLIS, BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AGREE ON ONE PRACTICAL TAKEAWAY FOR TONIGHT. IF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO DO ITS JOB, AND KEEP AGITATORS FROM INTERFERING WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, TWO PEOPLE WOULD LIKELY STILL BE ALIVE. COOPERATION, NOT DIVISION, IS THE KEY TO KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. I HOPE THIS COUNCIL CONSIDERS THAT BEFORE ASKING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ONLY ENFORCE SOME OF OUR LAWS, SOME OF THE TIME. THANK YOU. KAI TWIBLED FALL, FOLLOWED BY COHEN LABRASH. HI, I'M KAI. WE RECENTLY GATHERED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR KIDS FOR PEACE AND THE GREAT KINDNESS CHALLENGE. WE ALL TOOK THE KINDNESS PLEDGE, WHICH INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING BELOW. I PLEDGE TO RESPECT PEOPLE IN EACH AND EVERY LAND. I PLEDGE TO JOIN TOGETHER AS WE UNITE THE BIG AND SMALL. I PLEDGE TO DO MY PART TO CREATE PEACE FOR ONE AND ALL. PLEASE REMEMBER, YOU TOOK THIS PLEDGE. AS A KID, I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT YOUR WORDS AND ACTIONS ARE. BE THE PEOPLE OF YOUR WORD. PLEASE PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AGAINST ICE. PROTECT MY FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I WOULD REPRIMAND YOU FOR THAT, BUT I'D CLAP, TOO. HI, MY NAME IS COHEN LABRESH. I ALSO GO TO JEFFERSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LIKE KAI. AND I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD FEEL SAFE, WELCOME, AND RESPECTED IN OUR CITY. IT IS NOT A CITY OF PEACE IF WE DO NOT RESPECT EACH OTHER SAFELY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NORA TORRES.

NORATORIES. MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE FINAL CARD THAT WAS PRESENTED AFTER THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE. NOW, TO STICK WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, SO WE'RE NOT BEING INCONSISTENT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE FINAL SPEAKER.

DOES ANYBODY WANT A FIVE- OR TEN-MINUTE BATHROOM BREAK, OR SHOULD WE POWER THROUGH? OKAY. COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH, OH, I'M SORRY, QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS, I'M SORRY. BEFORE WE GO TO THE COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS, CHIEF, I SAW YOU TAKING NOTES AS FAST AS YOU COULD, DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS? I CERTAINLY

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OKAY, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? I'LL LET THE COUNCIL ASK QUESTIONS, AND AS YOU GET THOSE ANSWERED, YOU CAN CHECK THEM OFF YOUR LIST. YES, SIR. AND THEN AT THE END, YOU CAN FILL IN THE ONES THAT WE DIDN'T ASK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO START WITH MR. SHEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SPEAKERS FOR ATTENDING. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE, ACTUALLY. SO I'M EXCITED BECAUSE I'VE SPENT MY WHOLE ADULT LIFE JUST STUDYING LEADERSHIP, AND I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THERE'S MOMENTS IN TIME WHERE EFFECTIVE LEADERS GET TO REALLY, TRULY SHOW THEMSELVES OUT TO THE PUBLIC. AND AS I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW YOU, CHIEF, I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO WITNESS THAT AMONGST THE PUBLIC.

BUT I THINK WE'RE ALSO GOING TO WITNESS SOME CONTRASTING VIEWS OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM OTHER AGENCIES. SO MY LINE OF QUESTIONING IS GOING TO BE KIND OF FUNDAMENTAL. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOFTBALLS FOR YOU, FOR THE MOST PART.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LEARN A LOT, AND I THINK THE AUDIENCE IS ALSO GOING TO LEARN A LOT. AND I HOPE THE AUDIENCE CAN JUST KIND OF TAKE THESE PERSPECTIVES IN THE ASPECT OF TRUE FUNDAMENTAL LEADERSHIP.

AND HOW WE REALLY WANT TO SEE AND CARVE OUT LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICIES.

SO. OUR FIVE VALUES FOR THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE COMMITMENT, HONESTY, RESPECT, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND PASSION.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY. DOES THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN? WE DO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN FROM 2022 TO 2025. WE'RE ACTUALLY GEARING UP TO CREATE A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE HAVE A NEW CAPTAIN IN OUR COMMAND STAFF TEAM AND SOME NEW PROMOTEES, SO WE ARE DUE FOR A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN. POOR CAPTAIN. OKAY. WHY DO WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN? WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE CLEAR GUIDANCE. NOT ONLY INTERNALLY TO OUR EMPLOYEES, SO THEY KNOW WHAT OUR MISSION IS ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT ALSO EXTERNALLY. TO, I'LL SAY, CUSTOMERS WE SERVE, BUT THE PUBLIC THAT WE SERVE.

GOTCHA. AND THEN OUR TACTICS AND OUR OPERATIONS ARE THEN DERIVED FROM OUR POLICIES AND THESE STRATEGIC PLANS THAT WE'VE CREATED, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. TELL ME ABOUT, JUST REALLY BRIEFLY, THE TIMELINE FROM POINT OF HIRE OF A RECRUIT. UNTIL THE POINT THAT WE CAN TRUST AND HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR NEWEST POLICE OFFICER.

ABSOLUTELY. SO TO BE HIRED AS A RECRUIT, IT'S A VERY EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND PROCESS THAT THEY MUST GO THROUGH. ONCE THEY ARE HIRED, IF THEY PASS THAT BACKGROUND PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES A POLYGRAPH TEST AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH, THEY WILL GO THROUGH. THE REGIONAL POLICE ACADEMY AT MIRAMAR. THIS ACADEMY IS APPROXIMATELY 984 HOURS OF TRAINING THAT THEY GO THROUGH, WHICH THE POST-MANDATE FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS, I BELIEVE, AROUND 660 HOURS.

SO OUR ACADEMY IS EXTENSIVELY LONGER. IT'S A SIX-MONTH, FULL-TIME ACADEMY. IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GRADUATE FROM THAT ACADEMY, WHICH INCLUDES CLASSROOM WORK, LAWS OF ARREST, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO PHYSICAL FITNESS. EVOC, WHICH IS OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLE OPERATIONS, FIREARMS, DEFENSIVE TACTICS, THERE'S AN ARRAY OF THINGS THEY MUST GO THROUGH.

IF THEY DO PASS THAT, THEY GO THROUGH A 22-WEEK FTO PROGRAM WITH A SEASONED OFFICER, WHICH IS A VERY STRINGENT PROGRAM. A LOT OF PEOPLE GET OUT OF THE ACADEMY, AND THAT IS THE HARDEST PART, IS THAT FTO CAR. SO FROM THE POINT OF THEM GOING TO THE ACADEMY AND COMING AND BEING A FULLY-FLEDGED OFFICER, IT'S ABOUT A YEAR OF TRAINING. QUITE A LOT OF IQ AND EQ IN ORDER TO READ THE PUBLIC, CORRECT? YES. OKAY.

IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, SHOULD THE PUBLIC BE EXPECTED TO SIMPLY TRUST LAW ENFORCEMENT, OR IS IT LAW ENFORCEMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ACTIVELY EARN THE TRUST OF THE PUBLIC? WE BELIEVE AT THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IT SHOULD BE EARNED ON A DAILY BASIS.

GREAT. CONFIRMING THAT PUBLIC TRUST RANKS AMONG ONE OF THE VERY TOP PRIORITIES OF OUR CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S TRUE. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND VISIBILITY THROUGH LEADERSHIP FROM THE BRAND NEW RECRUIT UP THE RANKS AND ALL THE WAY UP TO US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS IS? HOW WE JUSTIFY OUR ABILITY TO SAY THAT WE HAVE HIGH CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY AND PROVIDE THAT PUBLIC TRUST BACK TO OUR PUBLIC? YES. OKAY. SO IF WE DO 99 THINGS RIGHT, CONSISTENTLY OUT OF 100, AND WE DO ONE THING DRAMATICALLY WRONG AS PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS, COULD THAT ONE CONSISTENT ILLEGAL TACTIC THAT'S BEEN PUT OUT IN PUBLIC DISPLAY IMMEDIATELY ERODE THE PUBLIC TRUST TO COMPLETE UNTRUST? YES. COULD CONSISTENT, IMPROPER, AND OR EVEN OPTICS OF IMPROPRIETY BY LAW

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I'M TAKING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHAPTER HERE, GUYS, SO BEAR WITH ME. OKAY, THIS IS THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART OF THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. I'M JUST CONFIRMING THAT THE IMMIGRATION CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, KNOWN AS ICE, AND U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION, KNOWN AS CBP, OPERATE UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. YES. AND YOUR INTERACTION WITH DHS IS THAT NOT BEYOND JUST THOSE TWO ENTITIES, CORRECT? CAN YOU REPHRASE THAT? DID YOU SAY NOT BEYOND? NO, IS BEYOND. SO, MEANING THAT, LIKE... AT TIMES, YOU'RE PARTNERING WITH DIFFERENT DIVISIONS WITHIN DHS? YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND THEY'RE COMPLETELY SEPARATE OPERATIONS, AND SO SOMETIMES WE RELY ON DHS TO CONDUCT CERTAIN OPERATIONS, BUT THEN SOMETIMES WE ARE DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH ICE AND CPP? CORRECT.

OKAY. SLIDE NUMBER TWO. THIS IS THE U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, AND I'M JUST CONFIRMING WHAT THE PUBLIC SEEMS TO BE MOST CONCERNED WITH IS THE FIELD OPERATIONS DIVISION.

I BELIEVE SO, YES. AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHERE WE HAVE. YOU'RE DEALING WITH DIFFERENT OPERATIONS WITHIN CBP AS WELL? YES. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING THIS, SO I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT. OH, COOL. SORRY.

GREAT. AND THERE'S EVEN SOME DIVISIONS THAT YOU'VE NEVER EVEN TOUCHED. IT'S NOT EVEN A PART OF YOUR REALM. CORRECT. I DON'T THINK I'VE INTERACTED WITH THE TRADE. A DIVISION OF THIS ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.

YOU WANT TO KNOW A FUN FACT? FUN FACT IS, OUR TAXES, THAT ARE OUR TARIFFS, THAT WE HAVE TO PAY, THAT'S WHO WE PAY TO, CBP.

JUST LEARNED SOMETHING. YEAH, I WAS AN IMPORTER. OKAY, SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY, THIS LAST SLIDE IS THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART OF ICE, AND JUST ALSO CONFIRMING THAT HERE WE'RE FOCUSED ON ENFORCEMENT AND REMOVAL OPERATIONS DIVISION.

IS THE BIGGEST PUBLIC CONCERN RIGHT NOW? I WOULD SAY, YES. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY. IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT? MULTIPLE DIVISIONS OR TASK FORCE, AND EVEN MISSIONS WITHIN ICBP AND DHS THAT MAY OPERATE DIFFERENTLY FROM ONE ANOTHER? AND RARELY COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER, JUST FROM YOUR PURVIEW? I CANNOT ANSWER THAT. I DON'T KNOW THEIR INTERNAL COMMUNICATION. OKAY. AND THEN A GOOD QUESTION THAT THE PUBLIC IS PROBABLY WONDERING AND CONFUSED ABOUT IS, DO WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY? AUTHORITIES OF THESE AGENCIES WHEN THEY ARE IN OUR CITY? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I HAVE ZERO AUTHORITY OVER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

GOTCHA. LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.

SO, CONFIRMING IN OUR PAST THAT. OUR DEPARTMENT HAS CONDUCTED MULTIPLE EFFECTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS IN CONJUNCTION WITH MULTIPLE OUTSIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO INCLUDE DHS, CBP, AND ICE. CORRECT. OKAY. HAVE ICE, CBP, AND DHS COMMUNICATED TO YOU THEIR CURRENT ENFORCEMENT STRATEGIES, OR ANY OF THEIR RECENT CHANGES IN TACTICS IN REGARDS TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT? BESIDES TELLING THE CHIEFS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT THEY ARE HERE AND THEY ARE DOING ENFORCEMENT, WE RECEIVE ZERO TACTICAL PLANS, ZERO COMMUNICATION OF THEIR STRATEGIES. WE DO NOT RECEIVE THAT IN ADVANCE, NO.

GOTCHA. OVER THE PAST YEAR, WHAT, IF ANY, HAVE THEY SHARED? WITH YOU IN REGARDING IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES AFFECTING SPECIFICALLY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD? SO FROM TIME TO TIME, WHEN THEY ARE IN THE CITY, THEY WILL CALL OUR DISPATCH CENTER AND SAY, WE ARE IN YOUR CITY.

AND, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL BE HERE FOR THE NEXT FEW HOURS DOING PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT.

FOR THE MOST PART, WHEN THEY DO THAT, WE DO NOT ENCOUNTER THEM. WE DO NOT SEE THEM. MOST OF THE ACTIVITY THAT HAS HAPPENED WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF OUR CITY, I AM FINDING OUT WHERE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS FINDING OUT AFTER THE FACT THROUGH CITIZEN ACCOUNTS.

GOTCHA. OKAY, THAT ANSWERED MY NEXT QUESTION. IF THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT WERE TO HAVE A DRAMATIC, PUBLIC-FACING CHANGE TO OUR ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS, WOULD YOU NOTIFY THE COUNCIL IN A PUBLIC SETTING? ABSOLUTELY. TAKE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT OF THE PICTURE WITH THIS QUESTION. HOW WOULD CARLSBAD PD RESPOND IF A FAMILY MEMBER REPORTED A CARLSBAD RESIDENT WHO IS A U.S. CITIZEN OR A U.S. CITIZEN VISITING OR WORKING HERE AS MISSING? WE WOULD TAKE A MISSING PERSON REPORT. THEY WOULD BE ENTERED INTO WHAT'S CALLED THE MUP SYSTEM. IT'S A MISSING AND UNIDENTIFIED PERSON SYSTEM SO THAT ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE NOTIFIED IF THEY CAME ACROSS THAT PERSON ON A TRAFFIC STOP OR OTHERWISE.

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I HAVE RECEIVED ZERO CRIME REPORTS OR HEARD OF ANY CRIME REPORTS OF SOMEBODY STATING THAT THEIR FAMILY MEMBER HAS BEEN.

KIDNAPPED OR ABDUCTED AT ALL, I WOULD SAY, IN THE LAST YEAR. OR AT ALL. I MEAN, IT'S A VERY SAFE COMMUNITY, AS YOU KNOW. YOU ALL LIVE HERE.

IT'S VERY, VERY RARE FOR US TO TAKE A KIDNAPPING OR ABDUCTION REPORT. WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO CASES OR REPORTINGS OF A FAMILY MEMBER IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD BEING ABDUCTED OR NOT TO BE FOUND. SO THEN, IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN, LET'S JUST SAY, AND IT HAPPENED TO BE...

LIKE VIDEO RECORDED OF A FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR SOMEONE WHO RESEMBLES IT, REMOVING THIS PERSON? WHAT TYPES OF FOLLOW-UP DO WE DO, ESPECIALLY IF THE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DO NOT RESPOND BACK OR GIVE YOU AN ANSWER, PERIOD? SO WE HAVE NOT COME ACROSS THAT. I CAN SAY I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT IF I CALLED ICE OR BORDER PATROL AND SAID, THIS IS THE PERSON THAT IS BEING REPORTED MISSING, THEY DON'T WANT US TO BE...

PUTTING PEOPLE INTO A MISSING PERSON SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR CUSTODY, SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY WOULD SHARE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD THAT PERSON IN THEIR CUSTODY. UM, BUT IN TERMS OF US BEING ABLE TO FORCE ICE OR BORDER PATROL TO GIVE US ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AS I STATED BEFORE, I HAVE ZERO AUTHORITY OVER THEM. DOING THAT. OKAY, IT'S JUST ABOUT BEING SELFISH. IF IT WAS ME, IF I GOT DETAINED AND TAKEN AWAY FROM, UM, BY ICE OR CBP, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? DO EXACTLY WHAT I JUST STATED IN THE LAST ANSWER. I TRIED TO DO MY BEST TO TRACK DOWN, ARE YOU TRULY MISSING? AND ARE YOU TRULY ABDUCTED? WERE YOU TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BY LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR SOME SORT OF ARREST OR DETENTION MATTER? AND WE WOULD LOOK INTO THE MATTER THAT WAY. DARN IT. THOUGHT I HAD SOME MORE PRIVILEGES. SORRY, GIRLS.

OKAY. OKAY. THERE WAS KIND OF A QUESTION ASKED PRIOR. IF I'M IN MY VEHICLE AND I DON'T TRUST THE IDENTIFICATION OF THESE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BECAUSE OF THE APPEARANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING LATELY, AND I JUST WANT TO STAY IN MY CAR UNTIL I AM HOPING THAT YOU ARRIVE, WHAT SHOULD I EXPECT? SHOULD I ALSO EXPECT THAT THEY WILL BREAK INTO THE CAR AND TRY TO? I WOULD SAY YES BECAUSE WE HAD A RECENT CASE WHERE THIS HAPPENED. OKAY, HERE'S A TOUGH QUESTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TOTALLY ANSWER THIS. TAKING THE FRAMEWORK AND MINDSET OF THE PRE-SB54, HOW UNCOMFORTABLE WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU WERE TO ASK IF I HAVE THE PHYSICAL APPEARANCE, ACCORDING TO ICE AND CBP, TO BE CONSIDERED SOMEONE UNDOCUMENTED? I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO REPHRASE THAT. I'M SORRY.

SURE. LET'S THINK ABOUT PRE-SB54. AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS NOW. LET'S SAY WE REMOVED S.B.

54. AND WITH WHAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT, THE STRATEGIES AND TACTICS OF ICE AND CBP, HOW WOULD MY PHYSICAL APPEARANCE BE A REASON TO BE CONSIDERED A SUSPECT OF BEING UNDOCUMENTED? OR HOW DIFFICULT OF A QUESTION IS THAT FOR ME TO ASK? YOU IS PROBABLY A BETTER ONE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT.

BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY? I THINK, IF I'M FOLLOWING YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, RACIAL PROFILING IS SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY DO NOT DO AT THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT. AS I STATED BEFORE, I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ICE OR BORDER PATROL. I'M NOT A PART OF THEIR TRAININGS. I'M NOT A PART OF THEIR DEPARTMENT. I CAN ONLY SPEAK ON BEHALF OF CARLSBAD PD.

WE SPECIFICALLY TRAIN PEOPLE, AND THERE'S EXTENSIVE TRAINING IN THE ACADEMY ABOUT THIS, THAT WE DO NOT RACIALLY PROFILE.

DID WE DO IT PRE-SB54? ABSOLUTELY, YES. PRE-SB54, I WAS IN THE ACADEMY IN 2006, AND WE TRAINED TO THAT EXTENSIVELY.

UNDERSTOOD. ARE CARLSBAD RESIDENTS REQUIRED TO CARRY IDENTIFICATIONS AT ALL TIMES? IF THEY'RE DRIVING A VEHICLE, YES.

BUT IF THEY'RE JUST WALKING AROUND AND MINDING THEIR BUSINESS, NO. CAN A POLICE OFFICER LAWFULLY BE RECORDED BY THE PUBLIC WHILE PERFORMING DUTIES? YES. EXPLAIN TO ME AN OPERATIONAL ZONE IN REGARDS TO WHERE, LIKE, EVEN FOR MYSELF, IF IT WAS A FIRE AND I'M A FIRE CAPTAIN, THAT I... I HAVE TO

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BUT THE GOAL IS WE WANT TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INTERACT WITH.

BUT IT DEPENDS. YEAH. AND DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF IF THE OPERATIONAL SCENE IS MOVING BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH HUMANS, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN A PERSON CAN END UP BEING IN THE OPERATIONAL ZONE WITHOUT WANTING TO HAVE BEEN IN THE FIRST PLACE? CORRECT, AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD SAY IT DEPENDS. IT'S A VERY FLUID SITUATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S MOVING.

GOTCHA, OKAY. LET'S TALK ABOUT, THIS IS A CONCERN THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE. YOU PERSONALLY HAVE MECHANISMS TO BE ABLE TO VERIFY THE LEGITIMACY OF FEDERAL AGENTS OPERATING WITHIN OUR CITY? CORRECT. IF WE CONTACTED THEM, THEY WOULD ADVISE WHO THEY ARE AND IDENTIFY THEMSELVES TO US. HOW EASY IS IT TO HAVE SOMEONE IMPERSONATE A CARLSBAD POLICE OFFICER? I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT. WHAT ARE THE COMMON REASONS OF WHY IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO IMPERSONATE AN OFFICER? ONE, WE HAVE... 137 SWORN COPS, SO OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR PEOPLE, WHICH IS GREAT. OUR UNIFORMS ARE EXTREMELY WELL-MAINTAINED, PUT TOGETHER. IF I CAN THINK WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS, WE DON'T WEAR MASKS, SO PEOPLE RECOGNIZE OUR FACES.

THERE'S MULTIPLE... REASONS WHY IT WOULD BE IDENTIFIABLE.

SOMEBODY WAS WEARING A UNIFORM THAT DID NOT MATCH OURS, DRIVING A VEHICLE THAT DID NOT MATCH OURS, ALL THE MARKINGS, ET CETERA. OKAY. SO EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR NAME BADGE ON YOUR BADGE, I HAVE A NUMBER THAT I CAN REFERENCE TO AND ID THE INDIVIDUAL, CORRECT? CORRECT.

BY STATE LAW, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR BADGE NUMBER AND OR OUR NAME PRESENT AND VISIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC. WHAT YOU'RE WITNESSING RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU PURVIEW THE NEWS, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, HOW EASY DO YOU THINK IT IS TO IMPERSONATE A NICER CPP OFFICER? COULD I DO IT? COULD I DO IT WITH AMAZON IN LIKE TWO DAYS AND BE ABLE TO SHOW UP? POTENTIALLY. AND THEN RIP OFF MY LICENSE PLATE. AND I CAN JUST, ME AND A COUPLE OF BUDDIES CAN GO AND JUST HIJACK SOMEONE AND YOU WOULD NOT KNOW WHO I WAS. IT'S DIFFICULT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I'M GOING OFF OF RECENT...

CALLS WHERE WE HAVE INTERACTED WITH ICE OR BORDER PATROL, WHICH, AS I STATED, HAS BEEN EXTREMELY LIMITED, WE ARE ABLE TO CONVERSE WITH THEM, IDENTIFY THEM, CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE LEGITIMATE. FOR CASES WHERE WE SHOW UP AND MANY TIMES THEY ARE ALREADY NOT THERE, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND ADVISE WHO THEY ARE AND IDENTIFY THEM. I'LL GET A LITTLE SCIENCE FICTION HERE RIGHT NOW. HAVE YOU SEEN RECENT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE GENERATING IMAGES AND VIDEOS KNOWN AS DEEP FAKES? YES.

RIGHT. THEY'RE QUITE IMPRESSIVELY REAL. AM I CORRECT? YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. DO WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF CONFIRMING VALIDITY OF THESE IMAGES AND VIDEOS WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY IDENTIFY OUR OFFICERS? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CARLSBAD PD OFFICERS WHEN YOU SAY OUR OFFICERS? ANY OF THEM, RIGHT? SO JUST MEANING THROUGH DEEPFAKE IMAGES AND VIDEOS. NOW, IT SEEMS LIKE, MAYBE YOU CAN VERIFY WITH ME, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT FOR A DEEPFAKE TO... IMITATE ONE OF YOUR OFFICERS THAN IT IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH OUR ICE AND CBP AGENTS? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. I CANNOT CONFIRM THAT.

SOME OF THE DEEPFAKES THAT I HAVE SEEN HAVE SPECIFICALLY BEEN DEEPFAKES OF EAST COAST AGENCIES. AND YOU CAN USUALLY TELL, BECAUSE THE PATCHES ARE COMPLETELY ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE AN NYPD PATCH.

BUT I WILL SAY IT. I MEAN, THERE'S... LAW ENFORCEMENT STUDIES ON DEEP FAKES AND HOW

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SWITCHING GEARS A LITTLE BIT.

SO, FROM SOMEONE WHO'S IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT LEADERSHIP, ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT OVERSEES AND CREATES POLICIES, WOULD IT BENEFIT YOU IF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, SUCH AS MYSELF, WERE? TO MAKE SUBJECTIVE ASSUMPTIONS OF AN ARREST YOUR DEPARTMENT MAKES AS A PUBLIC RESPONSE PRIOR TO YOUR CONCLUSIONS? ABSOLUTELY NOT. WHAT ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER? NO.

COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR? NO.

WHY NOT? THERE ARE SO MANY NUANCES TO A USE OF FORCE AND ARREST. WE'VE SEEN IT HERE. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE OFFICER-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS THAT TOOK A LOT OF INVESTIGATIVE POWER TO LOOK THROUGH. AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT, ENSURE THAT WE ARE TAKING THE CORRECT SUSPECT INTO CUSTODY, THAT THEY'RE BEING TURNED OVER TO THE COURT'S JUDICIAL SYSTEM CORRECTLY. AND IT WOULD BE IT WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR ANYBODY TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT BEFORE A FULL AND THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. JUST LIKE IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT ON SOME OTHER AGENCY'S USE OF FORCE OR CONTACT WITHOUT KNOWING ANY DETAILS OR HEARING THE INNER WORKINGS OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT INVESTIGATION, THERE'S AN INVESTIGATION FOR A REASON. GOTCHA CONFIRMING THAT OUR COUNTY HAS A SYSTEM KNOWN AS THE AUTOMATED REGIONAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEM, ALSO KNOWN AS ARGIS.

CORRECT. OKAY. AND THAT'S BASICALLY DESCRIBED AS A SECURE, COLLABORATIVE CRIMINAL JUSTICE NETWORK IN SAN DIEGO AND IMPERIAL COUNTIES, CONNECTING OVER 80 LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL AGENCIES.

CORRECT. THIS IS THE DATA SHARING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CORRECT? THE SANDAG PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IS THE OVERSIGHT FOR ARGIS, RIGHT? YES. DID YOU KNOW THAT I SERVE AS THE VICE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE? I JUST HEARD THAT RECENTLY, YES. COOL, THANK YOU.

SANDAG, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, ARE THE OVERSIGHT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. IS THIS CORRECT? CORRECT. DID YOU KNOW THAT I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS? YES. OKAY, THAT'S AWESOME, TOO. UNDER S.B. 54, CALIFORNIA LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT MAY NOT INQUIRE INTO THE INDIVIDUAL'S IMMIGRATION STATUS OR USE RESOURCES FOR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY, SO THIS STARTS AT THE OFFICER LEVEL.

HANDLING A CALL IN OUR DEPARTMENT. AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW HE OR SHE ENDS UP DOCUMENTING, WHICH SHOULD NOT INCLUDE IMMIGRATION STATUS.

OR WHAT. HAVE YOU CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. THEREFORE, FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA CANNOT RECEIVE IDENTIFIERS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS BECAUSE THERE IS NO INFORMATION TO COLLECT AND DISTRIBUTE FROM OUR DEPARTMENTS OR OUR.

JUST. IS THIS CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, LICENSED PLATE READERS. THEY STAY IN-HOUSE, THEY DO NOT GET SENT OUT TO ARGUS. IS THAT ALSO CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION. SORRY, GUYS. DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN A QUAGMIRE BY HAVING TO HAVE LIMITED, VERY, VERY LIMITED AUTHORITY WHILE ALSO HAVING TO PONDER AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION? YES. AND WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT, IF I MAY, I APPRECIATE 8. THE CONFIDENCE THAT MANY OF THESE SPEAKERS HAVE PUT IN ME. IT IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE THE CHIEF.

I DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY. IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES ARE IN RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY. AND MANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING ASKED OF ME RIGHT NOW, I CANNOT DO UNLESS I WANT TO VIOLATE THE LAW, WHICH I WILL NEVER DO. SO I JUST, I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION, BUT YEAH, IT IS QUITE THE CONFLICT.

GOTCHA. OKAY. I YIELD. THANK YOU. MS. BURKHOLDER. THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER SHEN. I ONCE HAD ABOUT 5,000 NEW YORK FIREFIGHTERS GO AROUND MY SECURE AREA AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN, SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. YOU ARE WELL AWARE OF IDENTIFYING OUR OFFICERS AND THEIR OPERATIONS.

JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.

SOMETIMES IN OUR OPERATIONS AS A SEA RESERVES AGENT, WE WOULD EXECUTE AN ARREST WARRANT OR A SEARCH WARRANT, AND THEN WE WOULD GO BACK AND REGROUP AT A LOCATION, PERHAPS PUT THE LONG GUNS IN A SAFE AREA SO THEY CAN GO BACK TO THE OFFICE OR WHATEVER.

DEBRIEF. UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT CLARIFYING MISINFORMATION AT DOVE LIBRARY, SO I DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT TO SEE WHAT YOUR SORT OF TAKEAWAY FROM THAT WAS.

YES, I WATCHED THE VIDEO AND I WATCHED IT BORDERLINE OBSESSIVELY. BECAUSE WHAT I WAS READING FROM SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE COMING INTO THE CITY WAS NOT CONGRUENT WITH WHAT I WAS SEEING IN THE VIDEO. I DID NOT SEE LONG GUNS.

I SAW FEDERAL OFFICERS WEARING BULLETPROOF VESTS, SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR OFFICERS WEAR

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THEY WERE CASUALLY WALKING ON THE VERY NORTHERN PART OF THE LIBRARY, IN THE PARKING LOT THERE. IT LOOKED LIKE A STANDARD DEBRIEF OR FILLING OUT PAPERWORK OF SOME SORT. THEY WERE NOT TACTICALLY. DOING ANY SORT OF ENFORCEMENT FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IN THAT VIDEO. THANK YOU.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE QUESTION I GOT MOST FREQUENTLY OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. ALSO, IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A FED, WE WEREN'T REQUIRED TO NOTIFY LOCALS IF WE WERE DOING OPERATIONS IN THEIR CITIES. IS THAT STILL THE RULE? YES, I MEAN, WE HAVE, I WILL SAY. IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL OF OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS, JUST LIKE WE DO WITH OUR LOCAL PARTNERS. AND AS A COMMON COURTESY, MANY TIMES WE WILL GET, IF THERE IS GOING TO BE, FOR EXAMPLE, A SEARCH WARRANT DONE IN OUR CITY, A OFFICER FROM THE AGENCY THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING THE SEARCH WARRANT WILL GIVE US A COURTESY CALL.

AND STATE, WE WILL BE IN YOUR CITY ON THIS DATE AND THIS TIME.

AND GIVE US AN ADDRESS, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A SEARCH WARRANT, SO THAT WHEN WE GET QUESTIONS FROM OUR COUNCIL OR FROM NEIGHBORS CALLING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT SAYING SOMETHING'S GOING ON HERE, WE AT LEAST HAVE A HEADS UP, YES, THERE'S A SEARCH WARRANT GOING ON. IS THAT, LIKE, A REQUIREMENT? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

IT'S DEFINITELY APPRECIATED FOR OFFICER SAFETY ISSUES. WE CALL IT A BLUE ON BLUE, WHERE WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO UNINTENTIONALLY GET INTO A SHOOTING AND KILL A COP ON ACCIDENT. BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S SOMEBODY THAT'S...

THEY'RE UNLAWFULLY, BUT IN TERMS OF NOTIFICATIONS, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FEDS, THE LOCALS. IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO A SEARCH WARRANT AT A BUSINESS OR A RESIDENCE, I WOULD EXPECT TO GET A PHONE CALL NOTIFYING ME OF THAT. WE, I ALWAYS DID WHEN I WAS GOING TO ANOTHER CITY. JUST TO GIVE THEM A HEADS UP.

BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE AN UNMARKED CAR, SO THAT'S EVEN MORE DANGEROUS.

BUT I DO AS A COURTESY, OBVIOUSLY. SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THAT ACTUALLY HASN'T CHANGED. CAN WE CONTROL WHEN ICE COMES OR WHERE THEY GO WITHIN THE CITY? WE CANNOT.

OTHER THAN THE NON-PUBLIC AREAS? CORRECT. I REMEMBER THAT FROM MS. TRUE. OKAY. AND, I MEAN, OFTENTIMES, WELL, IN THE PROTECTIVE REALM OF THE SECRET SERVICE, WE WOULD GO INTO CITIES AND SAY WE NEED TRAFFIC. INTERSECTION MAINTENANCE RIGHT HERE OR WHATEVER, AND BUT WE WOULDN'T GIVE THE SPECIFIC OPERATIONAL PLAN TO LOCALS. NUMBER ONE, THEY DON'T REALLY CARE.

THEY'RE JUST DOING THEIR JOB.

AND NUMBER TWO, THERE'S ALWAYS POTENTIAL FOR LEAKS. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. HOW ABOUT CAN CPD INTERFERE WITH ICE OPERATIONS IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD? ABSOLUTELY NOT, AND WE COULD BE ARRESTED FOR OBSTRUCTION IF WE DID.

THAT WOULD BE BAD. THAT WOULD BE REALLY BAD. SOME PEOPLE WROTE IN TO COUNCIL TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO AS A COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THOSE THINGS, BUT DID I MISS SOMETHING? ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING? DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THEM, FIRST OF ALL? I DID READ MOST OF THEM, AND MAYBE I'LL ASK A SENIOR ASSISTANT. CITY ATTORNEY JENNIFER TRUDEAU TO COME IN AND SPEAK TO THIS.

GREAT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. I DID SEE SEVERAL COMMENTS THAT HAD COME IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS, AND I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW ONES THAT HAD LISTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS ONE THAT I SAW THAT HAD ABOUT EIGHT ITEMS THAT ARE ALREADY LAW, THAT ARE ALREADY REQUIRED.

WE'RE SEEING THIS ALSO WITH OTHER AGENCIES ADOPTING RESOLUTIONS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WILL PROHIBIT ICE FROM ENTERING A NON-PUBLIC AREA.

AGAIN, THAT IS STATE LAW, AND WE DO COMPLY WITH THAT. SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. IF YOU CAN THINK OF MORE SPECIFIC ONES, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. PARTICULARLY. NO, MA'AM. I'M JUST GLAD THAT YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW ALL THAT BECAUSE I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT. WE'RE COLLECTING THAT. AND ALSO IMPLEMENTING WHAT WE CAN AS FAR AS WHAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS IS IMPORTANT FOR US OPERATIONALLY.

I GUESS SOME PEOPLE WERE ALLUDING TO PROTECTING ALL RESIDENTS OF CARLSBAD. IN YOUR CAPACITY AS CHIEF AND YOUR OFFICERS THAT WORK UNDER YOU, I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL ARE EXCELLENT AT PROTECTING PEOPLE IN CARLSBAD. I'M NOT CLEAR AS TO WHAT WAS MEANT.

BY THE WORD PROTECT IN THE INSTANCE OF AN ICE INCIDENT? BECAUSE WOULDN'T THAT BE CONSIDERED INTERFERING IN THEIR OPERATION IF YOU DID DO SOMETHING

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NO SINGLE POLICE CALL IS THE SAME. SO I CAN'T GIVE A BLANKETED ANSWER. WE WILL COME TO THE CALL IF CALLED. OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE IS PUBLIC SAFETY FOR EVERYBODY ON SCENE. THAT INCLUDES THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CITIZENS OR RESIDENTS THAT WERE CALLING US, AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL AGENTS ON SCENE. THAT'S ENTIRELY WHAT I WAS GETTING AT, IS THAT YOU DO RESPOND AND YOU DO COME, AND THEN YOU ASSESS THE SITUATION AND DO AS DEEMED PROTOCOL AT THE TIME. SO THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. MS. ACOSTA. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THANKS, CHIEF CALDERWOOD. AND THANKS, MS. TRUE, FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND I KNOW THAT IT'S GETTING LATE.

SO I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE STILL HERE. AND THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO CAME AND COMMENTED OR WROTE IN. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP THEM REALLY SHORT BECAUSE IT'S GETTING LATE. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE SPEAKERS SHARED WITH US. HAVE WE RENTED OUT OR DO WE RENT OUT FACILITIES TO ICE OR BORDER PATROL HERE IN CARLSBAD? WE DO NOT. OKAY. CAN I GIVE A LITTLE INFORMATION TO THAT? SO WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTRACTS WITH ICE OR BORDER PATROL.

WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY NEW CONTRACTS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OUR TRAINING FACILITY IS, I'LL SAY, FULL. WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTS WITH LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES. WE WOULD, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO ASSESS AND IF THEY DID, INQUIRE, TO SEE IF THEY COULD TRAIN WITH US, BECAUSE WE DO NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ENTITIES THAT ARE TRYING TO FULFILL CONTRACTS WITH US BASED OFF WHERE THEY WORK.

BUT I WILL SAY, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. BACK TO THE LICENSE PLATE, READERS.

I KNOW THAT THERE WERE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT MANY TIMES INTERNALLY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION RIGHT NOW PUBLICLY ABOUT OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS. AND AFFIRM WHAT WE DO WITH THE DATA. AND THE KIND OF POLICY THAT WE HAVE AROUND THAT. SURE. I TOOK SOME NOTES SPECIFIC TO SOME OF THE SPEAKERS. IN TERMS OF THE FLOCK DATA, WHICH THE MOST RECENT INFO THAT WAS GIVEN TO COUNCIL IS IN DECEMBER, BECAUSE WE RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION FROM SOMEBODY REQUESTING FLOCK DATA. WE DO NOT RECEIVE OR STORE DATA FROM FLOCK. WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE FLOCK CAMERAS. HOWEVER, THERE ARE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAVE THEIR OWN FLOCK CAMERAS AND HAVE DECIDED TO PARTNER WITH US AND GIVE US ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO QUERY INFORMATION IN THOSE CAMERAS.

BUT WE DO NOT STORE THE DATA, WE DON'T RETAIN THE DATA, AND WE CANNOT SHARE THE DATA.

OKAY. CAN I GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ON OUR POLICY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF LIKE AUDITING THE SHARING? THANKS. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE LAW ABOUT SHARING WITH A LICENSED FLIGHT READER DATA. SB34 IS WHAT GOVERNS THE CITY ON HOW IT USES THAT DATA.

BY THE STATUTE, THERE ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT MINIMUM THRESHOLDS FOR DATA PROTECTION. THERE ARE ALSO LIMITATIONS ON TO WHOM THE DATA CAN BE SHARED.

THE CITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO SHARE THAT DATA WITH AGENCIES OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA, MEANING WE CAN'T SHARE WITH NEW MEXICO, WE CAN'T SHARE WITH COLORADO. WE ALSO CANNOT SHARE THE DATA WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.

SORRY, AND THEN CAN YOU ANSWER THAT FOLLOW-UP? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW OFTEN WE GO BACK AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO MISTAKE, THAT WE'RE NOT ACCIDENTALLY SHARING. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, BUT ALSO SHARE THAT WITH THE PUBLIC. SURE. OUR CURRENT POLICY IS THAT WE HAVE AN LPR LIEUTENANT, SO A LICENSE PLATE READER LIEUTENANT, WHO OVERSEES THE PROGRAM. THEY AUDIT THE PROGRAM MONTHLY. WE ALSO HAVE A BIANNUAL AUDIT THAT'S DONE BY OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS LIEUTENANT TO ALSO CHECK THE DATA.

GREAT. THANK YOU. I THINK ANOTHER ONE FROM MS. TRUE.

GOING BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, THE MODEL POLICY FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, CAN YOU GO OVER THAT AGAIN AND TELL US WHEN YOU THINK WE MIGHT EXPECT THAT? BECAUSE I GUESS EVERY CITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADOPT THEIR OWN POLICY FROM THAT MODEL SOON. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. AS

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TO DEVELOP A POLICY FOR LOCAL AGENCIES AND HOW IT INTERACTS WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES, FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AGENCIES.

THAT WILL BE PUBLISHED. THE AG HAS UNTIL JULY 1 OF THIS YEAR TO PUBLISH THAT POLICY. AND THEN CITIES HAVE UNTIL JANUARY 1 OF 27 TO ADOPT THAT POLICY, OR AN EQUIVALENT. NOW, WE'VE SEEN A... SIMILAR DIRECTION TO THE AG THAT CAME FROM SB.

54 TO CREATE MODEL POLICIES FOR HOSPITALS, COURTHOUSES, AND SCHOOLS. AND THEY WERE ALSO REQUIRED TO ADOPT THOSE POLICIES. SO I DO NOT HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE AG IS GOING TO COME UP WITH, BUT THOSE OTHER POLICIES MAY GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE OF WHAT WE CAN EXPECT. GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND AS LONG AS WE'RE SPEAKING OF THE A.G. OR CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL, DO WE HAVE ANY PLACE WHERE WE REFER PEOPLE TO THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THEIR KNOW YOUR RIGHTS INFORMATION? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT OR ANYBODY ELSE KNOWS THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE AT THIS MOMENT THAT WE DO.

OKAY, BECAUSE DEFINITELY THE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS INFORMATION IS SO IMPORTANT. OKAY, ONE LAST QUESTION. THIS IS KIND OF A REVIEW OF SOME THINGS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SAID. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY ICE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS WERE MADE IN CARLSBAD THIS YEAR? WE DO NOT. RIGHT.

AND I GATHERED THAT, SO I KNEW THAT ANSWER.

BUT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A COUNT AND KNOW WHAT THOSE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS WERE IN CARLSBAD THIS YEAR? BECAUSE WE DO NOT WORK FOR ICE. WE DO NOT WORK. FOR BORDER PATROL, WE'RE A LOCAL MUNICIPALITY THAT RUNS OUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND SO THEY ARE OFTEN IN OUR CITY DOING ENFORCEMENT, AND WE ARE NOT A PART OF THAT. WE FOLLOW SB. 54.

MANY TIMES THEY'RE IN OUR CITY. THEY COME AND GO, AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY'RE HERE. AND QUITE HONESTLY, WE DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED BECAUSE WE WILL BE VIOLATING SB 54 IF WE ARE.

THANK YOU. THAT'S VERY CLEAR.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. MS. BOB PATEL. YES, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT WROTE IN OR SPOKE. I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THESE AS QUICKLY AS I CAN, AND I'LL TRY NOT TO HAVE REPEATS, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT I MIGHT RE-ASK, JUST FOR CLARITY AS I GO THROUGH THEM. SO I'LL GO OFF OF THE LATEST ONE THAT WAS ASKED WITH REGARDS TO THE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS INFORMATION. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER. I WAS JUST KIDDING.

CURIOUS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD MAKE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FIRST. I HAD INTENDED TO PUT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE, FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVE CONTACTS. WE ALREADY DO HAVE SB54 INFORMATION ON THE CITY WEBSITE ALREADY, SO I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THIS CONVERSATION AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.

I DON'T NEED COUNCIL DIRECTION TO DO THAT. I INTENDED TO DO IT FOLLOWING, UH, FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, BUT HAVE SOME INFORMATION IN A MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE PORTION OF OUR WEBSITE. THAT'S AN EASY ASK. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF COUNSEL'S CONVERSATION BEFORE DOING THAT. GREAT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT CLARITY. AND THEN, IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED FROM THE AUDIENCE, I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, COMMUNICATION-WISE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL HAVE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR CITY. CORRECT. I WOULD SAY IT'S HIT AND MISS. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THEY HAVE CALLS. WE'LL DISPATCH AND SAYING, HEY, WE MAY BE IN YOUR CITY BETWEEN, I'LL JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, NOON AND THREE TODAY. THEY DON'T TELL US WHERE. SOMETIMES THEY'LL SAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THE NORTHERN AREA OF THE CITY OR SOMEWHERE IN GENERAL, BUT WE DON'T GET SPECIFIC INFORMATION. AND OTHER TIMES WE HAVE BEEN ALERTED BY CITIZENS THAT THEY'VE BEEN SEEN, AND WE HAVE ZERO NOTIFICATION OF THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I KNOW THAT CAN BE CONFUSING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND I KNOW. I ALSO HAVE RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS THAT I THEN CHECK IN WITH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER, WHO THEN CHECKS IN WITH YOU ALL. SO I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. I KNOW THIS QUESTION WAS ASKED, AND I'M ASKING FOR CLARITY JUST BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT IF SOMEONE IS RECORDING WITHIN THEIR LEGAL RIGHTS AND OBVIOUSLY NOT BREAKING THE LAW, AND WHAT KIND OF PROTECTION DO THEY HAVE IF THERE WERE AN ENCOUNTER? I KNOW THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL,

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THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ANSWER BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, EVERY SINGLE ENCOUNTER IS DIFFERENT. IF WE GET CALLED TO A SCENE AND SOMEBODY IS FILMING AND THEY'RE CALLING SAYING, HEY, I'M FILMING. IMMIGRATION OFFICERS RIGHT NOW AND I WANT YOU TO COME HERE, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW UP AND WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT TO ASSUME THAT WE ARE GOING TO INTERCEDE AND INTERFERE WITH THE AGENTS ON SCENE, WE CANNOT. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW FOR US TO DO THAT. IF ANYTHING, WE WOULD PROBABLY SHOW UP, AND IF THE INTERACTION WAS STILL GOING ON, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE PEACE, TALK TO THE CITIZEN THAT NOTIFIED US THAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO COME, AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO SEPARATE PARTIES TO KEEP THE PEACE AND ENSURE THAT THERE'S SAFETY FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I KNOW THERE WAS A SIMILAR QUESTION AROUND WHAT HAPPENS IF AGENTS ARE IN AND AROUND OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEY'RE EITHER FOLLOWING A CHILD HOME, THEY'RE KNOCKING ON SOMEONE'S DOOR, WHATEVER ELSE. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE A SIMILAR SITUATION AS TO WHAT YOU JUST SHARED, OR WOULD IT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT? INSTANCES WHERE SOMEBODY'S KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY RECOMMEND PEOPLE CALLING 911. AND WE WILL SHOW UP AND WE WILL ASSESS AND FIGURE OUT IF IT IS A LEGITIMATE POLICE OFFICER OR IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S ACTING AS ONE. IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN PEOPLE DO IF THEY SEE LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM THE FEDS FOLLOWING PEOPLE OR STOPPING THEM, I WOULD SAY, DO NOT OBSTRUCT, DO NOT INTERFERE, BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FILM FROM A SAFE PLACE, BY ALL MEANS. ONCE PEOPLE PUT THEIR HANDS ON OFFICERS, ONCE THEY GET IN BETWEEN AN ARRESTEE AND AN OFFICER, ONCE THEY PUT THEIR CAR IN THE MIDDLE OF A SCENE OF AN OFFICER, THEY ARE VIOLATING THE LAW, AND THEY WILL MOST LIKELY BE ARRESTED.

OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS COME IN. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE MENTIONED IT TONIGHT, BUT I'VE RECEIVED SOME COMMUNICATIONS AROUND WHETHER THERE WERE WARRANTED ARRESTS.

OR DETAINMENTS BEING MADE OR UNWARRANTED. I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, I'M ASSUMING THEY WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH US. OF COURSE, I'M HOPING THAT ALL OF THEM ARE WARRANTED ARRESTS THAT ARE HAPPENING OR DETAINMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN. THERE HAVE BEEN A HANDFUL OF INCIDENTS THAT I HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN, I'LL USE THE WORD ABDUCTION OR KIDNAPPING. WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY VERY CONCERNING. I HAVE CALLED THE HEAD OF ICE AND SAID, HEY, I'M GETTING NOTATIONS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT BELIEVE THAT THERE'S PEOPLE BEING ABDUCTED. CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM OR DENY, IF YOU ARE IN OUR CITY ON THESE DATES AND TIMES WHERE THESE WERE OBSERVED? TO LET ME KNOW IF THERE WERE LEGITIMATE ARRESTS MADE? IN ALL OF THE ONES THAT I HAVE SENT THEM, THEY HAVE RESPONDED BY SAYING A LEGITIMATE ARREST HAS BEEN MADE. NOT AN ABDUCTION, NOT A KIDNAPPING. A KIDNAPPING AND AN ABDUCTION FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT MEANS SOMEBODY IS BEING TAKEN AGAINST THEIR WILL. THEY DO NOT HAVE AN ARREST WARRANT OUT FOR THEM. THEY ARE NOT VIOLATING THE LAW. DETAINED FOR VIOLATING THE LAW. THERE'S A CLEAR DISTINCTION THERE.

OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION AROUND OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS AND THE DATA. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT DOES NOT JUST GET WILLINGLY SHARED.

CORRECT. WE HAVE CLEAR PARAMETERS AROUND THAT. OKAY. I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THAT OVER THE YEARS, EVEN PRIOR TO WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE REEMPHASIZE THAT. AND THEN I'M JUST LOOKING THROUGH ALL THE QUESTIONS. I THINK SOME HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. BEAR WITH ME. I HAD LIKE THREE PAGES OF QUESTIONS. NO PROBLEM.

OKAY. ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS WAS AROUND, YOU KNOW, IF... FOLKS ARE CALLED, AND I

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AND WE'RE BEING ASKED TO STEP IN THE MIDDLE OF A SITUATION WHERE, QUITE FRANKLY, IF THE LAWS NEED TO BE CHANGED, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH CONGRESS. I HAVE NO POWER TO CHANGE THESE LAWS.

AND THE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT THAT IS TAKING PLACE IS PEOPLE FOLLOWING.

ORDERS AND FOLLOWING LAWS. SO I THINK MULTIPLE SPEAKERS SPOKE TO THAT. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO BE THE SORT OF JUDGE IN ALL THESE MATTERS AND BE THE ONE TO CHANGE CONGRESS. IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AVENUE THAN THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND MY LAST QUESTION, AND THEN I JUST HAVE COMMENTS. I KNOW A FEW PEOPLE MENTIONED IF FEDERAL OFFICERS ARE ACTING OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHAT CAN BE DONE, IF ANYTHING.

I THINK IF SOMEBODY FEELS THAT LIKE THAT IS HAPPENING, THEY CAN ABSOLUTELY COUNT ON THE FACT. IF THEY CALL 911, WE ARE GOING TO RESPOND.

WE ARE ALL EQUIPPED WITH BODY CAMERAS AND WE WILL BE JUST LIKE THE INCIDENT THIS MORNING.

THE OFFICER SHOWED UP. HE ACTIVATED HIS BODY CAMERA. I ACTUALLY WATCHED THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE TODAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE IT FOR MYSELF. AND WE WILL DOCUMENT THE INCIDENT. IF FOR SOME REASON, OUR OFFICER BELIEVES THAT THERE IS A LAW THAT WAS VIOLATED, THAT WILL BE REPORTED TO A SUPERVISOR, AND WE WILL WORK POTENTIALLY WITH OUR OWN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN TERMS OF REPORTING THAT VIOLATION.

OKAY, THANK YOU. CHIEF, WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE MISSED ASKING THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ASKED? WE DID GET A QUESTION IN TERMS OF WILL OFFICERS DE-ESCALATE.

ABSOLUTELY, THAT IS OUR MAIN PRIORITY. IF WE ARE CALLED TO A SCENE WITH FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OCCURRING AND CITIZENS THAT ARE THERE, WHETHER IT'S FILMING OR IN SOME SORT OF ARGUMENT OR WHATEVER. HAVE YOU, IF WE'RE DISPATCHED, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY DE-ESCALATE.

WE TRAIN TO THAT OFTEN. OH, THERE WAS A QUESTION IN TERMS OF... CAN MOTOROLA, WHO IS THE VENDOR OVER OUR CURRENT LPRS, CAN THEY SHARE THE DATA WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT? THEY CANNOT SHARE THE DATA WITHOUT OUR CONSENT, WHICH WE WOULD NOT DO BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF S.B. 54, OR WITHOUT A WARRANT FROM A JUDGE. THERE WAS A QUESTION ON DATA REGARDING FUNDS. SPENT ON ICE AND IMMIGRATION IN OUR CITY. I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA. I THINK UNDER S.B 54, THOUGH, IT IS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEND ANY MONIES ON IMMIGRATION-RELATED ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. BUT I THINK THE QUESTION MAYBE WAS ALSO ALLUDING TO IF WE GET A CALL-IN FROM A CITIZEN RELATED TO AN ICE INCIDENT, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, UNFORTUNATELY. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING ELSE. WAS ANSWERED THROUGH THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME VIA COUNCIL. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. EVERYBODY OKAY WITH STILL CONTINUING? MR. SHIN, YOU START. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO I STARTED OFF BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT YOUR ABILITY AND YOUR LEADERSHIP ABILITY AND THE HIGH LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DEPARTMENT. AND I THINK THE AUDIENCE WHO'S STILL HERE GOT TO WITNESS THAT. AND I... I THINK AS PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING ABOUT THE CONDUCT THAT THEY'RE SEEING OUT THERE ON THE FEDERAL SIDE, THEY'RE REALIZING. THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU SAY THAT YOU WILL DO THAT. I DON'T SEE THEM DOING ON THAT SIDE. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THOUGH, I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF NOTE I BROUGHT MY TWO DAUGHTERS IN HERE TODAY, AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU AS A LEADER, PROVIDES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE THEY WANT, ALL THE WAY UP TO YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THAT TO THE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS SITTING TO THE RIGHT OF ME. SO JUST THANK YOU FOR THE EXAMPLE

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THANK YOU. THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT TOOK THAT HAPPENED WITH ME WAS OVER LAST SUMMER.

THERE'S A GENTLEMAN NAMED GEORGE REITES. HE'S NOW A GOOD FRIEND. HE'S A U.S. ARMY COMBAT VETERAN SERVED IN IRAQ. AND HE WAS GOING TO HIS JOB SITE IN A FARM WHERE ICE WAS THERE AND RAIDED. AND WHILE HE COMPLIED AND PULLED OVER, HE WAS STILL. THEY BROKE THE GLASS, THEY PEPPER SPRAYED HIM, AND THEY DETAINED HIM. NOW, THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THIS IS. THEY DETAINED HIM FOR THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS WITHOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A PHONE CALL OUT, SEEK AN ATTORNEY, AND THE FAMILY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE HE WAS. AND THAT'S WHEN IT KIND OF STARTED BREAKING WITH ME, AND I SAID, OKAY, WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT POTENTIAL CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS RIGHT THERE. THEY MADE ALL ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND NO ONE WAS GIVING THEM AN ANSWER. BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, CBP AND DHS AND ICE WERE NOT PROVIDING THEM THE ANSWER. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE LINE OF QUESTION THAT I'M BRINGING TO YOU. BUT WHAT IT DID TO ME IS IT GAVE ME A SENSE OF MISTRUST. IT WAS THAT ONE APPLE THAT I WAS JUST TELLING YOU OUT OF THE BATCH, THAT DOESN'T SETTLE WELL FOR ME. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE WITH THE PUBLIC, IS THAT? AS SOON AS YOU GIVE US MISTRUST, IT'S GOING TO BE SO DIFFICULT FOR US TO BELIEVE IN THE EFFECTIVE OPERATIONS THAT YOU ARE DOING WITH ICE, DHS. AND CPP. AND THAT'S WHAT SADDENS ME, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN EFFECTIVE, GREAT POLICY AND WORK ITS WAY DOWN.

WHAT UPSET ME EVEN MORE IS THAT THE LEADERSHIP ABOVE THEM ALSO STATED STATEMENTS SUCH AS THE DIRECTOR OF DHS SAYING AND PREEMPTING AND SAYING THAT THEY HAD NEVER DETAINED ANY U.S.

CITIZEN AT THAT TIME. AND SO WE'RE AT A PAUSE WHERE I ALMOST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT FOR. FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR ABILITY TO KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THIS DEPARTMENT, YOU SHOULD BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH AROUND YOU.

FOR YOU TO HAVE COMPLETE TRUST IN THEM MAY END UP BITING YOU IN THE LONG RUN. SO I JUST HEED THAT WARNING. I'M SURE YOU ALREADY HAVE IT IN YOUR HEAD. I JUST NEVER ASKED YOU THE QUESTION, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE CASES. THE KICKER THAT WE HAVE THAT YOU'VE KIND OF STATED, IS THAT WE DO HAVE GOOD...

GUARDRAILS. IN REGARDS TO STATE POLICIES, THAT KIND OF KEEPS US INTO A WAY WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO VIOLATE IMMIGRATION LAW.

BUT WE'RE ALSO VERY LIMITED IN OUR POLICIES. THE ONE THING I WAS MULLING OVER IS, IS THERE A MOTION THAT I CAN MAKE? OR WHAT? HAVE YOU? AND I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT WOULD EITHER BE REDUNDANT OR SYMBOLIC, AND IT WOULD HAVE NO TEETH.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANOTHER FALSE INSECURITY OR SENSE OF SECURITY.

TO THE PUBLIC SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, AND FOR THEM TO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE NOW WEAPONIZED WITH THIS POLICY. AND TO MAKE YOU TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T DO. SO I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THE AIR WITH THAT. I DO THINK THAT CITIZENS HAVE TO ACT. I THINK THAT THEY'RE SEEING WHAT TAKES PLACE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION. YOU HAVE CAMERAS NOW, YOU'VE GOT YOUR IPHONES OR WHATEVER, AND GO OUT THERE AND CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. IF YOU SO, FEEL SCARED ABOUT OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I DON'T THINK THIS IS NECESSARILY A FORUM IN WHICH WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION.

HOWEVER, AS I WAS SAYING, I DO SIT AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR SANDAG AND THAT OVERSEES OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. AND THAT'S WHERE MY ATTENTION IS TO. I TEED UP THIS EXACT SAME AGENDA ITEM BACK IN SEPTEMBER. I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF YOU GUYS THERE, BUT IT WAS BACK THERE IN SEPTEMBER. THE NEXT REQUEST IS GOING TO BE FOR ICE AND CBP TO ATTEND OUR MEETINGS MOVING FORWARD AND GIVE US SOME CLARITY ABOUT THEIR STRATEGIES, POLICIES, AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT INTERPRET WITH THEIR TACTICS. SO I'LL SEE YOU THERE IF YOUR CONCERNS ARE STILL AS HEIGHTENED AS THEY ARE, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS GOING TO EVER BE THE SPACE, UNLESS THERE'S ACTIONS THAT END UP TAKING PLACE HERE IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD. SO WITH THAT, I YIELD. MS. BURKHOLDER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY BRIEF. I THINK EVERYTHING HAS PRETTY MUCH BEEN SAID. I JUST WANT TO REFLECT A DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO THE PUBLIC TO COME AND SIT THROUGH THIS VERY LONG MEETING, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS.

AND I HEAR YOUR FRUSTRATION, AND I HAVE RESIDENTS IN THE BARRIO THAT DON'T WANT TO CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE THEY'RE SCARED TO DO SO. THAT BREAKS MY HEART. SO HOPEFULLY THIS IMPARTS A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATIONAL PEACE TO FOLKS WHERE THEY CAN FEEL SAFE TO CALL THE POLICE IF THEY NEED THEM. AND I JUST CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT AN EXCELLENT REPORT THAT WAS. IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. BOTH OF YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING EVERYTHING AT A READABLE LEVEL. IT WAS REALLY EASY TO READ AND INTERPRET. I KNOW IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

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YOU'VE HEARD A LOT TONIGHT ABOUT HOW THIS BODY CAN'T IMPACT CONGRESS, LAWS IN CONGRESS, BUT YOU ALL CAN. AND SO I DO KNOW OUR CONGRESSMAN, MIKE LEVIN, IS EXTRAORDINARILY RESPONSIVE TO RESIDENTS. HE'S BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO ME IN TIMES THAT I'VE NEEDED TO REACH OUT TO HIM FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. I THINK HE WOULD WELCOME FEEDBACK FROM THIS COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE THINK IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. OR WHAT YOUR OPINIONS ARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE DEFINITELY COMMUNICATING WITH HIS OFFICE AND, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH.

WITH THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENTLY. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE, AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS.

MS. ACOSTA. THANK YOU. I'VE ALREADY SHARED MY THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM. YOU ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION WE THREW AT YOU, AND SOMETIMES WE HAD TO RESTATE THEM BECAUSE OUR QUESTIONS WEREN'T ENTIRELY CLEAR TO YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT'S CLEAR IN THE PACKET THAT YOU PROVIDED AND IN THE PRESENTATION AND YOUR ANSWERS TONIGHT, HOW HIGHLY TRAINED AND QUALIFIED AND COMMITTED OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS, SO THANK YOU. AND I WANTED TO QUOTE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY HERE. I HEARD ONE OF THE SPEAKERS DID AS WELL, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO PROTECTING AND SERVING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND RECOGNIZING THE DIGNITY OF ALL PERSONS. REGARDLESS OF THEIR NATIONAL ORIGIN OR IMMIGRATION STATUS. THANK YOU FOR THOSE WORDS. OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT COMPLIES WITH THE CALIFORNIA VALUES ACT, S.B.

54. WE'VE HEARD ALL ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE STRONG POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ON TOP OF THAT TO PROTECT US HERE IN CARLSBAD. AND I'M SO GRATEFUL.

I'M GRATEFUL FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR BUILDING THAT TRUST, FOR UNDERSTANDING THE CONCEPT OF BUILDING TRUST, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, AND BEING TRUE PEACE OFFICERS.

IT'S BEEN ESPECIALLY ADMIRABLE HOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT MANAGED THE PEACEFUL PROTESTS THAT WE HAD. AND I KNOW THAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED THE GEORGE FLOYD VIGIL, BUT ALSO THE NO KINGS DAY PROTESTS. THEY WERE SO BIG, BIGGER THAN EXPECTED, AND THEY WERE SO PEACEFUL AND POSITIVE, JUST EXPRESSIONS OF OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS AGENDA ITEM, THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED A HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF CONCERN AND FEAR AND ANXIETY. THIS IS TRUE AND WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED IT AND WE'VE BEEN TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.

THE CHIEF MENTIONED CONCERN AND UNCERTAINTY, AND REINFORCED, AND I QUOTE, TRUST IS ESSENTIAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY, UNQUOTE. OUR LOCAL POLICE WORK TO EARN OUR SUPPORT AND TRUST, AND THEY HAVE IT. I SUPPORT AND TRUST YOU. I KNOW SO MANY OF US HERE DO. OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A MODEL FOR A GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY PROUD. AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, AND A MOM IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND AS A LATINA FROM A MEXICAN-AMERICAN FAMILY, I VERY MUCH SHARE THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ICE. AND OTHERWISE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, ESPECIALLY WHEN I SEE VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE SEEING CHAOS, DESTRUCTION, CRUELTY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, PLEASE KEEP UP YOUR ADVOCACY.

PLEASE KEEP SHOWING UP. OUR CONGRESSMAN, MIKE LEVIN, IS AWESOME. WE HAVE TWO U.S.

SENATORS, ADAM SCHIFF AND ALEX PADILLA, THAT ARE WORKING AND FIGHTING FOR US HERE IN CALIFORNIA. WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO USE OUR RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW, AND THAT INCLUDES PARTICIPATING IN ELECTIONS AND GETTING OUT THE VOTE TO ELECT THOSE REPRESENTATIVES THAT WILL RESPECT OUR RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW. HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, THOUGH, WHERE WE ARE HERE TODAY AND NOW, I'M COMMITTED TO OUR PEACE, SAFETY, AND SENSE OF COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW THAT EVERYONE HERE WILL REMAIN IN CONVERSATION ABOUT KEEPING US ALL SAFE AND ON THE SAME PAGE. PART OF THE TRUST BUILDING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE RIGHT NOW.

AND I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS INFORMATION. BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING, AND I'M SO GLAD THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM ALSO BROUGHT UP THE THANK YOU. THE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS ON OUR WEBSITE. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PAGE THAT DIRECTS US TO MORE INFORMATION, TO CONTACTING CONGRESSMAN LEVIN, SENATOR SCHIFF, SENATOR PADILLA, AND MAYBE THE AG'S INFORMATION ABOUT KNOWING YOUR RIGHTS.

BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS PRESENTATION. NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO WATCH THE VIDEO. NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO SEE A NEWS ARTICLE ABOUT THIS. I THINK WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS PRESENTATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC. IT WAS A FANTASTIC PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE

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AND COMMUNICATE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS PRESENTATION OUT FAR AND WIDE TO THE PUBLIC.

I THINK THAT THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION JUST FOR OKAY.

BUT I ALSO THINK THE CITY MANAGER SAID HE WAS ALREADY GOING TO DO IT, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO. WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT, THE CITY, SORRY. HE DOESN'T NEED AUTHORIZATION TO DO IT, HE CAN DO IT ON HIS OWN IF HE WISHES. AND I PLAN TO. OKAY, CAN I MAKE THE MOTION ANYWAY? FOR PURPOSES OF CLARITY, OF COURSE, YOU CAN. OKAY, PERFECT, AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED, THANK YOU. SHOULD WE TAKE THE VOTE AND THEN CONTINUE ON WITH THE? SURE. DID YOU SECOND IT? I DID. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? THEN LET'S VOTE. OKAY. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. MS. PAT PATEL. ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR COMMENTS? YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. GREAT. WELL, JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE AGAIN WHO CAME TONIGHT AND, OF COURSE, TO OUR STAFF AND TO EVERYONE WHO WROTE IN. I WANT TO START BY ACKNOWLEDGING SOMETHING THAT'S EXTREMELY REAL. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE FEELING, THERE'S MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE FEELING AFRAID RIGHT NOW. AND WHEN THERE'S UNCERTAINTY AROUND IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, IT DOESN'T JUST AFFECT INDIVIDUALS, IT AFFECTS OUR FAMILIES, IT AFFECTS WORKPLACES, SCHOOLS, AND I WOULD SAY ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND IT'S NOT, THE FEAR THAT FOLKS ARE FEELING IS NOT ABSTRACT, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY REAL. AND IT'S BEEN SHOWING UP IN PEOPLE'S DAILY LIVES.

ESPECIALLY IN HOW OUR CHILDREN ARE EXPERIENCING THE WORLD IN THEIR CLASSROOMS, ON PLAYGROUNDS, AT HOME, WHERE STRESS AND UNCERTAINTY CAN FOLLOW THEM. WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO JUST BE KIDS. AND SO WHEN FEAR KEEPS PEOPLE FROM LEAVING THEIR HOMES, WHICH WE HEARD TODAY, GOING TO WORK OR SENDING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL. IT STOPS JUST BEING ABOUT POLICY AND A POLICY ISSUE, IT BECOMES A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AS WELL. I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I SEE THAT AND I TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO AS A CITY AGENCY. OUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ROLE IS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE FROM CRIME. THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY CAN'T ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW, AND THEY DO NOT ASK ABOUT THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS DURING ROUTINE INTERACTIONS.

SO EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS PROTECTED.

AND THEIR JOB IS... LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THAT'S THE FOCUS THAT MATTERS. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT DURING YOUR PRESENTATION. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS PLAINLY BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE WERE QUESTIONING IT EARLIER.

BUT I TRUST THE CARLSBAD POLICE DEPARTMENT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WITH PROFESSIONALISM, RESTRAINT AND CARE. THEY SHOW UP EVERY DAY TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT BUILDING TRUST IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ENFORCING THE LAW. AND I HAVE TO SAY I THANK THEM. ALMOST DAILY, WHENEVER I'M INTERACTING WITH THEM, FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND FOR THE RELATIONSHIPS THEY CONTINUE TO BUILD IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I GREW UP HERE AND I HAVE TO SAY I FELT VERY, VERY SAFE GROWING UP HERE.

BECAUSE OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE WAY THAT THEY TAKE COMMUNITY POLICING VERY SERIOUSLY. SO THANK YOU TO OUR CHIEF FOR ENTRUSTING US WITH THAT. AND I WOULD SAY, WHY IS IT, WHY DOES IT MATTER? AND I, YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD THAT. AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO RE-EMPHASIZE IT.

BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO CALL 911, OR AFRAID TO REPORT A CRIME, OR EVEN AFRAID TO COOPERATE AS A WITNESS, EVERYONE IS LESS SAFE. AND TRUST ISN'T JUST A SIDE ISSUE.

IT'S CENTRAL TO COMMUNITY SAFETY. IT'S CENTRAL TO ANY RELATIONSHIP.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW OUR POLICE OFFICERS TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. SO OUR GOAL AS WE SIT HERE AS RESIDENTS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO SPEAK UP. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO FEEL SAFE SEEKING HELP WHEN WE NEED IT, ESPECIALLY. SO ONE OTHER THING THAT WE HEARD VERY LOUD AND CLEAR, AND I HOPE THAT PEOPLE HEAR THIS AS WELL, IS THAT IN THIS COUNTRY, EVERYONE HAS BASIC CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

AND SO THAT INCLUDES THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR A WARRANT, AND THE RIGHT TO SPEAK WITH A LAWYER. KNOWING YOUR RIGHTS IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT YOU ARE INFORMED AND EMPOWERED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, MAKING THAT INFORMATION MORE PUBLIC AND FRONT AND CENTER. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HOPEFULLY FOLKS ARE AWARE THAT YOU HAVE THOSE BASIC CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. AND WITHIN OUR LOCAL AUTHORITY, AND AT LEAST I'VE HEARD IT AGAIN, THAT WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY, UPHOLD CIVIL RIGHTS, AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. AND I SAW MANY PEOPLE WITH SIGNS THAT SAID DIGNITY AND RESPECT, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

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BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE OUT TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT EVERYONE FEELS...

LIKE, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO COMMUNICATE. THERE WILL BE TIMES WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY KNOW EVERYTHING, BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO COMMUNICATE AS EFFECTIVELY AS WE CAN. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE CAN IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATING OUT THAT INFORMATION. WHAT I CAN SAY THAT I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN DOING IS I'VE BEEN TALKING TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.

I'VE BEEN TALKING TO FOLKS WITHIN OUR SCHOOL COMMUNITIES, OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS, MAKING SURE THAT I KNOW WHERE I CAN DIRECT FOLKS. TO LOOK FOR RELIABLE RESOURCES. SO, OF COURSE, AS AN AGENCY, WE CAN PUT CERTAIN RESOURCES UP. IF YOU NEED FURTHER RESOURCES, OR IF SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS FURTHER RESOURCES, TALK TO SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE, AND I WILL SAY I'M HAPPILY ABLE TO DO THAT ON MY OWN PERSONAL VOLITION. I THINK ONE THING THAT I KNOW FOR ME AS CARLSBAD, IS A COMMUNITY THAT'S BUILT ON FAMILIES. IT'S BUILT ON THE HARD WORK, THE CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER. AND WE TALK ABOUT HARD ISSUES TOGETHER. MY COMMITMENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT I CONTINUE TO LEAD WITH FACTS. AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS A SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M LEADING WITH FACTS, AND OBVIOUSLY WITH COMPASSION AND WITH STEADINESS. SO WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE CONTROL AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, BUT WITHIN OUR PARAMETERS, I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, INFORMED, AND RESPECTED. AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SOMETHING THAT, UH... MR. SHIN SAID WAS THAT HE'S INVITED BORDER PATROL AND ICE TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE'S MEETING AT SAND EGG. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

BUT ALSO TODAY, I JUST LEARNED THROUGH CONGRESSMAN LEVIN'S OFFICE, I SPOKE WITH HIS ASSISTANT, AND ALL THE MAYORS AND POLICE CHIEFS OF THE COUNTY ARE GOING TO BE INVITED TO MEET THE NEW ICE DIRECTOR CHIEF. OUR DISTRICT CHIEF FOR SAN DIEGO SECTOR. MR. BRIGHTMAN IS GOING TO MEET WITH ALL OF US, HEAR OUR CONCERNS, AND TALK ABOUT WAYS THAT HE CAN ACCOMPLISH HIS MISSION, BUT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH OURS AS WELL. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT MEETING. AS SOON AS THAT MEETING IS OVER, THE COUNCIL MEETING FOLLOWING IT, I'LL COME BACK AND REPORT BACK WHAT WE LEARNED.

BUT JUST HIM MEETING WITH OUR CHIEFS AND OUR MAYORS, SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT HE'S CONCERNED AND WANTS TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT HE CAN DO BETTER.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

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BUT THE LEADERSHIP UNDER JENNIFER CORWIN WAS GREAT, AND ROSE FLOWERS, THE PRINCIPAL, AND THEY RAN A GREAT MEETING.

AND THERE WERE SEVERAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, TRUSTEES, AND MR. SHIN WAS THERE. AND IT WAS JUST NICE TO CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY AT THAT LEVEL, AND VALLEY IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB. SO, APPRECIATED THAT. THE POINT IN TIME COUNT FOR ME. THIS YEAR, I HAD OVER THE ARMY-NAVY AREA AGAIN. BASICALLY, OCEAN BOULEVARD AND I ONLY COUNTED FOUR PEOPLE. SO, THAT'S COMPARED TO 16 LAST YEAR. IT WAS A DRAMATIC DROP. AND I WAS HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND THEN BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAND OUT SOME PAMPHLETS TO HELP SOME FOLKS THAT DIDN'T KNOW THE RESOURCES WERE AVAILABLE. THIS MORNING, I ACTUALLY MET A CONSTITUENT AT THE BUENA VISTA LAGOON, AND IT WAS A LITTLE CONCERNING, SO I'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO OVER THERE. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING MISSED ON ME. AND I WANT TO THANK OFFICER EVANS FOR GIVING ME AN EXCELLENT TOUR OF THE SAFETY TRAINING CENTER. IT'S LIKE A WORLD-CLASS FACILITY.

IT'S VERY NICE. THE RANGE IS YOU COULD PROBABLY EAT OFF OF IT, AND THAT'S NOT GOOD TO DO BECAUSE IT'S LIT.

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AND THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF JUST EDUCATING ME ON EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO AT THE SAFETY TRAINING CENTER.

AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IT'S A PRETTY BUSY CALENDAR COMING UP. I'M PART OF THE FIRST TIER SUBURBS COUNCIL FOR THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT IS IS ALL THE LITTLE CITIES AROUND A BIG CITY, SO LIKE CARLSBAD TO SAN DIEGO, OR PASADENA TO L.A., THEY GET TOGETHER AND THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR ISSUES AS BEING PART OF A BIGGER METRO AREA.

I'VE GOT MY FIRST MEETING WITH THEM TOMORROW. I'VE GOT THE WOMEN'S CAUCUS FOR THE...

LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES IS DOING A ZOOM ON MODERN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MODERN FAMILIES AND HOW CITIES CAN GET INVOLVED IN CHILD CARE, WHICH WAS REALLY GREAT. I AM ALSO A NEW HONORARY PTA MEMBER FOR VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL, SO I'VE GOT MY MEETING WITH THEM COMING UP. AND I WILL BE PRESENTING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, CARLSBAD'S ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON THURSDAY. I UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY INFORMATIVE AND INTERESTING MEETING, BUT MY PART WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE. SO I WILL BE HERE WITH MR. JASON HABER TO TALK ABOUT OUR LEGISLATIVE WORK IN CARLSBAD AND HOW OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM TIES IN TO ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.

SPEAKING OF WHICH, OUR NEXT LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING IS TUESDAY. FEBRUARY 10TH AT 9 A.M. HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND I WANT TO INVITE YOU TO ATTEND. YOU CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU CAN COME SPEAK ON ANY STATE LEGISLATION OR FEDERAL LEGISLATION THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TAKING A POSITION ON.

WE DO HAVE A LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM, BUT YOU CAN LEARN ALL ABOUT IT ON OUR CITY WEBSITE. AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE SAME DAY AS OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, FEBRUARY 10TH.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. MS. BOMPATEL. YES, THANK YOU. I KNOW WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING UPCOMING ON THIS THURSDAY. AND THEN I KNOW WE HAVE A LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES DIVISION MEETING AS WELL. THE OTHER THING I WAS JUST GOING TO QUICKLY MENTION AS WELL WAS THAT DURING THE POINT-IN-TIME COUNT. OH, SORRY, AND I OBVIOUSLY ATTENDED OUR CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING. I CAN DO A REPORT OUT ON THAT, MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING. SO THAT WE'RE NOT HERE LATE INTO THE HOUR. BUT FOR THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME OUT.

HAVING TO WAKE UP AT 3.30 OR 03, WELL, YOU HAD TO BE THERE AT 3.30, SO WAKING UP AT 3 IN THE MORNING. AND BEING OUT THERE AND BEING WILLING

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WITHIN HOURS, STAFF FROM PUBLIC WORKS, CMWD, POLICE, FIRE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT TEAM WERE IN ACTION. ASSESSING

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IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, I'LL BE BRINGING THE DECLARATION OF LOCAL EMERGENCY TO COUNCIL AND CMWD BOARD FOR A CONFIRMATION. FEBRUARY 10TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR, SORRY, MAYOR, SORRY, THANK YOU. I MEANT TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT I HAD ACTUAL FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE SO APPRECIATIVE. HOW FAST OUR TEAM GOT IN THERE AND MADE THE REPAIRS TO THAT. AND I, TOO, AM VERY THANKFUL. IT WAS AT 4 A.M. WHERE IT'S NOT TRAVELED, THANKFULLY. BUT, YEAH, INCREDIBLE WORK. LOTS OF KUDOS TO STAFF. THANK YOU. IT WAS A HUGE INCONVENIENCE TO THE PUBLIC. HOW MANY CALLS DO YOU THINK THE MAYOR RECEIVED? FIVE. FOUR WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, AND ONE SAID, IS THERE SOMETHING THE POLICE CAN DO? BECAUSE OUR STREET IS NOW THE SIDE STREET AND PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING ON IT. THAT WAS THE RESPONSE I GOT FROM OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY TRUST THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS JOB DONE. I HEARD SECONDHAND THAT SOMEBODY WROTE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THANK GOD, IT WAS IN CARLSBAD AND IT

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CITY CLERK. OKAY. THEN I WANT TO END, SLIDE, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT VOLUNTEERISM. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FIND A LOT OF JOY IN IS VOLUNTEERING AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND SOMETIMES I LEAVE THERE WITH A SMILE, SOMETIMES I LEAVE THERE WITH A TEAR. THIS DOG CAME IN FROM VALLEY CENTER, SHOT IN THE LEG LONG BEFORE SHE CAME TO THE SHELTER. YOU CAN SEE, SHE'S PRETTY MUCH DEFEATED.

SHE'S ONLY GOT THREE LEGS AND SHE WAS LIVING OUT.

IN A FIELD, ESSENTIALLY, UNTIL THE ANIMAL SHELTER PERSONNEL WENT OUT THERE AND ESSENTIALLY SEIZED HER AND BROUGHT HER TO THE SHELTER. SHE BECAME MY PET PROJECT, AS YOU CAN SEE, SHE'S A SWEET THING AND I RENT.

EVENTUALLY, I FOUND A FOSTER FOR HER. AND THIS IS WHAT BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES HAPPY TEARS WHEN I HAVE A SUCCESS STORY. AND NOW THIS IS THE DOG TODAY. THAT WAS A DEFEATED DOG, AND NOW SHE'S THE MOST PROUD DOG. NOW SHE'S IN A FOSTER HOME WITH A BUNCH OF KIDS. THEY'VE SENT ME VIDEOS OF THIS DOG RUNNING ON DOG BEACH, RUNNING IN AND OUT OF THE OCEAN. SO I WANTED TO END TONIGHT'S MEETING ON A POSITIVE NOTE, AND THERE YOU GO. WE'RE

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ONE THING I NEEDED TO SAY. DO I HAVE TO RECONVENE, OR CAN I UNADJOURN? SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 7TH, AT 8 O'CLOCK A.M., THE 17TH ANNUAL WARRIOR SPIRIT 5K RUN AND WALK FAMILY FESTIVAL AT POINSETTIA PARK, 6600 HIDDEN VALLEY ROAD IN CARLSBAD. NOW WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.