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APRIL 15TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION.

[CALL TO ORDER]

MINUTES CLERK, WOULD YOU TAKE THE ROLL, PLEASE? LET THE RECORD SHOW COMMISSIONER HUBINGER IS ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER MERZ. HERE. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

HERE. AND COMMISSIONER FITZGERALD IS ABSENT. COMMISSIONER BURROWS.

PRESENT. VICE CHAIR FOSTER. HERE. CHAIR MEENES.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER FOSTER, WOULD YOU DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THIS EVENING? ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 18TH, 2026 MEETING.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 10TH? OTHER. OKAY. WE DID CARRY THIS ITEM OVER FROM LAST MEETING WITH SOME ADJUSTMENTS, GIVEN BY COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY AND STAFF HAD MADE THOSE CORRECTIONS.

SO ARE WE OKAY WITH THE FEBRUARY 18TH MEETING? YEAH, I THINK THE CORRECTIONS CAPTURED THE ESSENCE OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, SO.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE FEBRUARY 18TH, 2026 MEETING? MOTION TO APPROVE. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY APPROVES.

COMMISSIONER MERZ MAKES THE SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

UNANIMOUS BY 5 VOTES. ALRIGHT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 18TH, 2026 MEETING. ANY COMMENTS, EDITS, CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 18TH, 2026 MEETING? WITH THAT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? COMMISSIONER MERZ MAKES THE MOTION. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER BURROWS MAKES THE SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

AGAIN, APPROVED BY ALL 5 HERE THIS EVENING. THE FOLLOWING PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING PROCEDURES ARE IN EFFECT THIS EVENING.

WE WILL REQUIRE A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM FOR ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, INCLUDING PUBLIC HEARINGS.

REQUEST FORMS MUST BE TURNED INTO THE MINUTES CLERK PRIOR TO THE ITEM BEING COMMENCING.

ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS REDUCED BY THE CHAIRPERSON.

SPEAKERS MAY NOT GIVE THEIR TIME TO ANY OTHER SPEAKER.

GROUP TIME WILL BE PERMITTED FOR ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

A REPRESENTATIVE MUST IDENTIFY THE GROUP AND AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS OF THE GROUP MUST BE PRESENT DURING THE MEETING FOR THE PRESENTATION TO BE MADE.

THOSE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE GROUP HAVE TEN MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS CHANGED BY THE CHAIRPERSON.

THE MINUTES CLERK WILL CALL THE NAMES OF THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER THE REQUESTS WERE RECEIVED.

THE BROWN ACT ALLOWS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AS PROVIDED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE AGENDA.

PLANNING COMMISSION WILL RECEIVE COMMENTS AS REQUESTED UPON THE TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

ALL OTHER NON-AGENDA PUBLIC ITEMS WILL BE HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION CAN OCCUR ON THESE ITEMS. MINUTES CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS? NO, CHAIR, WE DO NOT.

THANK YOU. I WILL BEGIN TONIGHT'S MEETING.

PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES. IF ANYONE WILL DIRECT THE ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN, I'LL REVIEW THE PROCEDURES FOR THE COMMISSION TO FOLLOW FOR THIS EVENING'S PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE OPENED. STAFF WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANTS WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AND RESPOND TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.

THEY WILL HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL BE OPEN. A TIME LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES IS ALLOTTED TO EACH SPEAKER.

AFTER THOSE WANTING TO SPEAK HAVE DONE SO, PUBLIC TESTIMONY PERIOD WILL BE CLOSED.

THE APPLICANT AND STAFF WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THOSE ISSUES OR QUESTIONS RAISED.

THE COMMISSIONERS WILL DISCUSS THE ITEM AND THEN VOTE ON IT.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED. CERTAIN PLANNING COMMISSION DECISIONS ARE FINAL BUT MAY BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

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YOU CAN FIND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE BACK OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.

[1. GOTZ RESIDENCE- CDP 2025-0021 (DEV2025-0051]

BUT BEFORE DOING SO, COMMISSIONERS, ANY EX PARTE CONVERSATIONS? COMMISSIONER MERZ. I VISITED THE SITE. OK. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY.

I VISITED THE SITE AND LOOKED IT UP ON GOOGLE MAPS.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BURROWS. I DROVE BY THE SITE.

COMMISSIONER FOSTER I DROVE BY THE SITE. AND I ALSO DROVE BY THE SITE.

MR. STRONG, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER 1? YES, THANK YOU CHAIR. THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS THE GOTZ RESIDENCES COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT 2025-0021.

IT'S FOR NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON GARFIELD STREET.

AND HERE TO PRESENT THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS SENIOR PLANNER JASON GOFF.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

GOOD EVENING. THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS LOCATED AT 3451 GARFIELD STREET ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF GARFIELD AND MAPLE.

THIS 5365 SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY'S COASTAL ZONE, BUT IS NOT WITHIN AN AREA WHERE THE CITY'S DECISION IS APPEALABLE TO THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION. THIS LOT GRADUALLY SLOPES EAST TO WEST AND IS PRESENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A 1422 SQUARE FOOT, ONE STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND A 447 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED GARAGE CONSTRUCTED IN 1955.

THE PROPERTY HAS A GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL R23, IS ZONED R3 OR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE BEACH AREA OVERLAY. A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WHICH, IF APPROVED, WILL ALLOW FOR THE DEMOLITION OF ALL EXISTING STRUCTURES ON SITE, FOLLOWED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW 4045 SQUARE FOOT, TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH AN ATTACHED 547 SQUARE FOOT, TWO CAR GARAGE.

OF THE TOTAL LIVING AREA, 667FT² IS DEDICATED TO AN ATTACHED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT LOCATED OVER THE GARAGE WITH A GROUND FLOOR STAIR ENTRANCE ORIENTED TOWARDS GARFIELD STREET ADJACENT TO THE GARAGE DOOR.

WHILE THE ADU IS SHOWN IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXHIBITS, THE ADU IS SUBJECT TO ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND WILL BE ACTED UPON BY THE CITY PLANNER UNDER A SEPARATE MINOR COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, SUBSEQUENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACTION ON THE CDP.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT COMPLIES WITH ALL ZONING STANDARDS RELATED TO THE SITE, SUCH AS BUILDING SETBACKS, LOT COVERAGE AND OFF STREET PARKING.

ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO RELOCATE VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM MAPLE AVENUE TO GARFIELD STREET VIA A NEW CURB CUT AND DRIVEWAY.

IN SO DOING, THE PROJECT WILL ALSO REMOVE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY CUT, ALONG MAPLE AVENUE, AND REPLACE IT WITH A NEW RAISED CURB, GUTTER, SIDEWALK AND LANDSCAPED PARKWAY. HERE ARE FOUR RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY HOME SHOWING ALL FOUR SIDES.

PRIMARY BUILDING MATERIALS CONSIST OF FIBER, CEMENT, SMOOTH SHIPLAP, HORIZONTAL SIDED, PAINTED WHITE AND WITH EXPOSED WOOD BEAMS, BRACKETS AND RAFTER TAILS. THE ROOF IS COVERED BY A COMPOSITION ROOF, SHINGLING AND A CHARCOAL GRADIENT COLOR PATTERN, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE IS 29.49FT AT ITS HIGHEST PEAK.

IN ADDITION TO THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, STAFF IS ALSO REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF A CEQA EXEMPTION DETERMINATION. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND FINDS THAT THE PROJECT BELONGS TO A CLASS OF PROJECTS THAT ARE CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PREPARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS. THE DRAFT NOTICE OF EXEMPTION, WHICH IS INCLUDED AS EXHIBIT 5 TO THE STAFF REPORT, DEMONSTRATES THAT THE PROJECT QUALIFIES FOR THE EXEMPTION AND THAT NONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS LISTED IN THE CEQA GUIDELINES SECTION 15 300.2 OR CHAPTER 19.04 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, HAVE BEEN TRIGGERED AS PART OF AN ADDITIONAL AND OPTIONAL PUBLIC DISCLOSURE.

THE DRAFT NOTICE OF EXEMPTION WAS ALSO POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE ON MARCH 4TH, 2026, AND AN EMAIL WAS SENT TO ALL INTERESTED PARTIES AND THAT HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THE PROJECT OR HAVE SIGNED UP TO REVIEW ENVIRONMENTAL NOTICES.

THIS NOTICE HAS REMAINED POSTED SINCE MARCH 4TH 26 AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS.

IN CONCLUSION, THIS PROJECT WAS ANALYZED FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN, ITS LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AND ALL APPLICABLE CITY CODES, POLICIES AND STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.

THE STAFF REPORT AND RESOLUTION IS BEFORE THE BEFORE. THE COMMISSION CONTAINS ALL ANALYSIS AND FINDINGS TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

AS SUCH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS EXHIBIT 1, APPROVING A CEQA EXEMPTION DETERMINATION AND A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE GOTZ RESIDENCE, AS DESCRIBED IN THE PROJECT STAFF REPORT. THIS WILL CONCLUDE STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

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IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

EXCELLENT. COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. WOULD YOU PLEASE. YOUR MIC, PLEASE.

OH, SORRY. WOULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN WHERE THE CURB CUT IS CHANGED? SO.

THAT. IT'S HARD TO READ FROM HERE. THE DRIVEWAY IS HOW WIDE AND WHAT KIND OF.

I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT DRIVEWAY COMPLIES WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY YOU NEED TO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY AT THE INTERSECTION.

STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. YEAH. JASON GELDART, ENGINEERING MANAGER, CITY OF CARLSBAD.

YEAH, THE DRIVEWAY DOES COMPLY WITH ACCESSIBILITY.

AND AS FAR AS ACCESSIBILITY AROUND THE DRIVEWAY APPROACH, IT DOES.

AND AS FAR AS THE PROXIMITY TO THE CORNER, THAT'S ALSO FINE.

WHAT ARE THOSE STANDARDS LIKE? WHAT ARE OUR STANDARDS? I MEAN, IS IT WAY OVER? IS IT REALLY TIGHT? WHAT'S THE STANDARD TO THE CORNER FROM A DRIVEWAY? WE DON'T HAVE ACTUALLY A SETBACK FROM THE CORNER OF THE DRIVEWAY IN THE STANDARDS.

WE DO LOOK AT INDIVIDUALLY IF THE DRIVER WILL CAUSE AN ISSUE WITH INTERFERENCE, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME LOTS THAT ARE JUST ON THE CORNER, AND THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE A DRIVEWAY CAN GO. BUT AS FAR AS WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, THERE DOESN'T POSE ANY SAFETY ISSUES OR ANY ISSUES WITH THE DRIVEWAY.

AND IN FACT BECAUSE THAT'S AN INTERSECTION, THERE'S NEW CALIFORNIA LAW OR NEW ISH THAT YOU CAN'T PARK WITHIN.

I CAN'T RECALL, BUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISTANCE.

20 OR 25FT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM THE CORNER ANYWAYS.

AND SO WHAT IS THE DISTANCE TO THE DRIVEWAY FROM THE CORNER? IT'S HARD TO TELL BECAUSE THAT'S A REALLY WIDE CORNER, RIGHT? YEAH, IT LOOKS TO BE ABOUT 20FT OR SO TO THE CURB RETURNS.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE POINT BEGINNING OF WHERE THE CURB STARTS TO CURVE AND WE CALL THAT THE CURB RETURN.

AND THERE'S LIKE A HORIZONTAL LINE SHOWING THAT.

SO IT'S ABOUT 20FT FROM THE DRIVEWAY APPROACH TO THAT, IT LOOKS.

WE DON'T HAVE A. SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A SCALE WITH ME.

UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

SO THAT'S FAIRLY COMMON. AND THAT REALLY WIDE CORNER IS ALSO FAIRLY COMMON, THAT WIDE ANGLED CORNER. YES, IT IS. THAT'S COMMON. SO BASICALLY.

RIGHT? YOU MEAN THE RADIUS OF THE CURB? RIGHT.

SO THAT RADIUS IS DRIVEN BY EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND LARGER VEHICLES.

SO THEY CAN MAKE THAT TURN WITHOUT HAVING TO ROLL OVER THE SIDEWALK OR TO GO INTO AN OPPOSING LANE.

OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON LEGISLATING E-BIKES.

AND ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS CORNER DESIGNS BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T SEE PEOPLE GOING AROUND THE CORNER.

AND IF THEY'RE BACKING OUT INTO A MUCH NARROWER LOCATION, ESPECIALLY A BLOCK FROM THE BEACH, I'M CONCERNED THAT CHANGING THE LOCATION OF THE DRIVEWAY MIGHT BE A SAFETY PROBLEM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO RIDE THEIR BIKES FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, YOU KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF DOING EVERYTHING THE SAME DESIGN WISE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE AMENABLE OR ACCESSIBLE TO PEDESTRIANS.

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SEEMS BETTER FOR PEDESTRIANS, BUT I'M STILL NOT SURE ABOUT THE BIKES.

SO ARE THERE BIKE LANES PROPOSED IN THIS AREA? SO THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL STREETS. RESIDENTIAL STREETS ARE LOW VOLUME AND LOW SPEED STREETS.

AND TYPICALLY WE DON'T STRIPE BIKE FACILITIES FOR THOSE.

IT'S A SHARED FACILITY ON THE ROAD AND THE BIKES.

AND TYPICALLY THERE ISN'T MUCH OR THERE ISN'T MANY ISSUES ON THESE TYPES OF STREETS.

IT'S THE HIGH SPEED STREETS THAT ARE THE ISSUES WITH BIKES.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, IF I MAY. SO, LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, THE 20 FOOT DRIVEWAY IS LOCATED THREE FEET APPROXIMATELY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE TOTAL PROPERTY LINE DIMENSIONS 48FT.

AND THAT ALIGNS WITH THE RETURN OF CURB. SO THE ENGINEERING STANDARD FOR PLACEMENT OF DRIVEWAYS IS PREDICATED ON PROXIMITY TO PROPERTY LINE.

AND IT SHALL NOT ENCROACH CLOSER I BELIEVE, THAN THREE FEET.

SO THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY'S LOCATION IS PROPOSED TO THE NEAREST LOCATION.

IT COULD POSSIBLY BE ON GARFIELD TO THAT PROPERTY LINE.

THE BALANCE OF THAT, OR THE SEPARATION OF THE DRIVEWAY TO THAT SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINE OR WHERE THAT CURB RETURN IS, IS APPROXIMATELY 28FT. THE CITY ENGINEERING STANDARDS DO NOT SPECIFY A DRIVEWAY LOCATION FROM A CORNER, BUT THERE IS A SIGHT DISTANCE STANDARD THAT'S APPLIED.

AND THAT'S 15FT TYPICALLY FROM EITHER A DRIVEWAY OR STREET OR ROADWAY.

SO THE DRIVEWAY'S LOCATION DOES COMPLY WITH THE MOST BASIC STANDARD FOR SIGHT DISTANCE, BUT OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT CONCURRENT WITH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS AND CODE COMPLIANCE REVIEW WITH CITY AND DID NOT FIND ANY SAFETY IMPACTS OR ANY CONFLICT POINTS WITH THAT PROPOSED DRIVEWAY LOCATION.

AND LIKE I MENTIONED, IT IS PROPOSED IN THE MOST NORTHERLY PORTION OF THAT SECTION OF GARFIELD.

WITH RESPECT TO THE BIKEWAY FACILITY AND ANY BIKEWAY MASTER PLAN PLANNING IN THE CITY, IT WORKS AS A NETWORK. SO THE CITY HAS DESIGNATED CLASS 1, CLASS 2, CLASS 4 FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THE CLASS 3 FACILITIES, WHICH ARE DESIGNATED WITHIN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SOMETIMES THEY CAN HAVE SHARED LANE MARKINGS OR SHARROWS, BUT THE IDEA IS TO FEED THOSE SMALLER SECTIONS OF THE NETWORK INTO LARGER ONES.

SO GARFIELD MAPLE WILL CONNECT CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, WHERE THE LARGER NETWORK IS LARGER USERS WHERE CLASS 2 OR CLASS 3 OR CLASS 1 FACILITY WOULD BE DESIGNATED. SO THE BIKEWAY MASTER PLAN EFFORT DOES NOT NECESSARILY DESIGNATE BIKE FACILITIES FOR EVERY FACILITY OR EVERY ROADWAY SECTION IN THE CITY.

IT'S INTENDED TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO PLACES OR TO LARGER FACILITIES WHERE THERE WOULD BE THAT BIKEWAY FACILITY THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE MORE RIDERS.

THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. OKAY. I WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

MINUTES CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? NO, CHAIR, WE DO NOT.

I WILL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. I WOULD LIKE TO.

STAFF WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORTH SO FAR? CLARIFICATION? NO, SIR. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER MERZ. OKAY. NOTHING ELSE? MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM? I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MERZ.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BURROWS. PLEASE VOTE.

UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. STRONG, WILL YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER 2?

[2. PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026-202]

YES. THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, MIKE STRONG, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A RECURRING AGENDA ITEM FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY.

CHAPTER 2.15 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE SPECIFIES THAT ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SHALL REPORT ANNUALLY ON THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE PERFORMED BY THE COMMISSION AND BOARDS, AND SPECIFY WHAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED TO BE WORKED ON IN THE SUBSEQUENT OR UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

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THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE CODIFIED IN 2.24 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

WHAT IS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING IS INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION AS ATTACHMENT A IS THE PREVIOUS ACTIVITIES PERFORMED OR ACCOMPLISHED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THAT'S A COMPLETE RECORD OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE PROCESSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BOTH EITHER AS A FINAL DECISION MAKER OR AS AN ADVISORY ROLE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEN THE ATTACHMENT B, THE SECOND ATTACHMENT TO THE RESOLUTION IS THE PROPOSED WORK PLAN, WHICH WE ARE SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR THE COMMISSION TO REVIEW BOTH ATTACHMENTS AND CONFIRM THAT THOSE ACTIVITIES LISTED IN ATTACHMENT A ARE CORRECT. BUT ALSO THE ATTACHMENT B REFLECTS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PRIORITIES AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE WORKED ON IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION AND STAFF'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. STRONG. WOULD YOU CLARIFY FOR THE COMMISSION AS TO THE PROJECTS IN THE WORK PLAN FOR THE 26-27, AND GIVE US A LITTLE CLARITY AS TO THE DECISIONS REGARDING WHAT PROJECTS WOULD BE PLACED IN THAT WORK PLAN FOR 26-27? THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND CERTAINLY, THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF PROJECTS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ONLY 4 OR 5 PROJECTS ARE ENUMERATED ON THAT ATTACHMENT.

THE GOAL AND OBJECTIVE OF ENUMERATING THOSE 4 OR 5 IS JUST TO SPEAK TO THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED WITH THE CITY AND ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON, AND WE DO ANTICIPATE A DECISION DATE MADE THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

THE CITY TYPICALLY INVENTORIES A LOT OF ITS PROJECTS.

AND THOSE THAT TYPICALLY ARE MORE CONTROVERSIAL ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE FEATURED ON THIS LIST.

IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER OF SMALLER SCALE OR THINGS THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY GENERATE A LOT OF PUBLIC CONTROVERSY.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS, THE LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE LOOK AT AS MAJOR MILESTONES, THINGS THAT WOULD BE FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THINGS THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON THE COMMISSIONERS RADARS OF UPCOMING PROJECTS TO EXPECT.

CERTAINLY IT'S NOT ABSOLUTE. PROJECT TIMELINES DO CHANGE, ARE VERY DYNAMIC.

SOME PROJECTS MOVE FASTER THAN OTHERS DEPENDING ON THE RESPONSIVENESS OF THE APPLICANT TO CITY COMMENTS.

SO IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT THERE MIGHT BE MORE CONTROVERSIAL COMMENTS OR PROJECTS SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

FURTHER QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS FROM STAFF? COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANKS FOR THE DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT A COUPLE OF THESE QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUGGEST SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN FOREFRONT ARE A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FOREFRONT THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT STRIKE ME AS SAFETY ISSUES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FULLY BE ADDRESSED IS THE INCORPORATION OF THE ZERO LOT LINE IN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN WITH THE NEED TO HAVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

THE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT WE SAW A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO HAD TWO NARROW ALLEYS TO CREATE THE DRAINAGE SWALES FOR THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IN A ZERO LOT LINE CONFIGURATION.

AND MY CONCERN IS THAT, NUMBER ONE, THAT CREATES MORE UNSAFE SPACE AROUND AN AREA THAT SHOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTINUOUS STREET FRONT, BUT ALSO ON THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING WHERE WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S FIRE CONCERNS. BUT MAYBE IF THE CONCERN IS THE RUNOFF AND CONTAINING THE RUNOFF, I'M 'M CONCERNED THAT THE ZERO LOT LINE IS IN CONFLICT OR THE RUNOFF REQUIREMENTS ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE ZERO LOT LINE REQUIREMENT OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO PLAN. SO I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS AN UPDATE ON THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN.

BUT I DO WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO COORDINATE THE STORMWATER BASED ON A ZERO LOT LINE, AND IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF PRECEDENT OR CASE STUDIES THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE REGION THAT USE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WITH ZERO LOT LINE THAT MAYBE WE

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COULD CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING FOR THE VILLAGE. MR. STRONG. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. THE REGULATION STANDARDS THAT ARE PROVIDED WITHIN THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN ARE ELSEWHERE IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

DEVELOP A OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL TO BUILD A PROJECT WITHIN THOSE LIMITS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INFLUENCES THAT GO INTO BUILDING AND SITE DESIGN.

ONE IS THE GOVERNMENTAL CONSTRAINTS. THOSE ARE REQUIRED BY THE ZONING CODE, BUT ELSEWHERE IN OTHER STANDARDS, INCLUDING FIRE ACCESS AND STORMWATER DESIGN. THERE MIGHT BE OTHER DESIGN SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE TO ALLOW THE BUILDING DESIGN TO ENCROACH TO THE ZERO LOT LINE STANDARD AND STILL PROVIDE RELIEF ELSEWHERE.

WITH RESPECT TO THE FIRE ACCESS, TYPICALLY IF THERE'S ANY EGRESS WINDOWS PROVIDED ON THE SECOND OR THIRD OR FOURTH STORY IN SOME CASES, THERE NEEDS TO BE ADEQUATE LADDER ACCESS OR SOME ACCESS PLAN TO THOSE EGRESS POINTS.

SO THAT COULD BE IN A ZERO LOT LINE CONFIGURATION, PROVIDED THAT THERE STILL IS SOME EASEMENT OR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ON THE OPPOSING SIDE OF THAT ZERO LOT LINE DEVELOPMENT.

FOR SITES THAT HAVE CONSTRAINTS LIKE MEANING THEY'RE ADJACENT TO ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, THERE ISN'T THAT ACCOMMODATION.

SO THEY'RE UNABLE TO PROVIDE A ZERO LOT CONFIGURATION.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A LADDER PAD TO ACCESS THE EGRESS POINT FOR THE SECOND, THIRD, OR FOURTH STORY.

THE HIGHER THE LOCATION, THE LARGER THAT LADDER PAD NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE OF THE TILT OF THE LADDER.

SO IT DOES COME DOWN TO DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION TYPES.

SO A HOUSING DEVELOPER COULD HAVE A BALCONY OR TERRACE OR SOME CORRIDOR OR PASSAGEWAY THAT CAN FUNCTION AS A FIRE EXIT EGRESS POINT ON THE SECOND, THIRD, OR FOURTH STORY.

AND SO THAT BALCONY, TERRACE OR DECK OR EXTERIOR CORRIDOR IS AT THAT ZERO LOT LINE LOCATION.

WITH RESPECT TO STORMWATER, THERE ARE MANY DESIGN SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE.

SOME COULD BE FILTERED TO ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING VERSUS ON BOTH SIDES.

SO IN ONE CASE IT COULD BE ZERO LOT LINE ON ONE BUILDING ELEVATION AND THEN INCREASE SETBACK ON THE OTHER.

BUT THAT ALLOWS THE FLEXIBILITY TO THE DEVELOPER TO COME UP WITH THOSE SOLUTIONS, KNOWING THAT THEY COULD GO TO ZERO LOT ON ONE SIDE.

SO WE HAVEN'T SPENT MUCH TIME RESEARCHING OR PREPARED TO RESPOND TO THIS, BUT IF THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN HAVING A SPECIAL STUDY SESSION ON POTENTIAL DESIGN OPPORTUNITIES IN A ZERO LOT LINE CONFIGURATION BASED ON EITHER BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER CITIES OR THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE CITY THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF OR DON'T HAVE MY FINGERTIPS TO, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE A SPECIAL STUDY WITH THE COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND THOSE NUANCES, INVITE.

THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY COULD PARTICIPATE IN THAT AND PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT TO SUGGEST WHAT DESIGN ALTERNATIVES THAT THEY COULD CONSIDER.

OR IF THERE'S ANY FIXES OR REMEDIES THAT COULD COME OUT OF THAT SPECIAL STUDY SESSION, THEN THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING ACTIONABLE, SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD REPORT AS A SUGGESTION.

SO IF THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE WAS INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THAT SUBJECT, HAVING THE ENGINEERING TEAM SPEAK TO THE STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS AND DIFFERENT DESIGN SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE AND THEN SAME WITH HAVING SOMEONE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DO THE SAME, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT'S MORE THAN WHAT I'M ASKING.

I GUESS I'D LOVE ALL THAT. I THINK WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH IS WE'RE. AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE ARE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO INCORPORATE AS ARCHITECTS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO PLAN, WHERE HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT STREET FRONT DENSITY IS A REALLY IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, GENERATOR TO INCREASE PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOODS,

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RIGHT? IF THEY HAVE THESE VISUAL BREAKS LIKE THESE ALLEYS OR THESE, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE RUNWAYS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE, THEY BECOME LESS INVITING. AND THAT'S REALLY MY CONCERN WITH WHAT THE INTENT OF THE BARRIO PLAN IS ACTUALLY SPEAKING OF AND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF GETTING. AND I THINK THAT THE DISCONNECT IS MAYBE WE HAVE TO TAKE A PORTION OF THE SITE WHEREVER THEY ARE AND JUST SUGGEST, WELL, THEY ACTUALLY CAN'T HAVE ZERO LOT LINE ON FOUR SIDES.

THEY CAN ONLY HAVE IT ON TWO SIDES OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT BECOMES THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WE STILL NEED THE DRAINAGE, WE STILL NEED THE FIRE ACCESS, BUT WE REALLY DO NEED ZERO LOT LINE IN THE FRONT AND ZERO LOT LINE ON ONE OF THE SIDES.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S PREVIOUS PRECEDENT OR POLICIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY SAN DIEGO DEALS WITH IT ALL THE TIME.

SO HOW DO THEY GET THEIR DRAINAGE? YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT'S REALLY MY QUESTION.

OR HOW DO THEY GET THEIR FIRE ACCESS WITH ZERO LOT LINES? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE. MR. STRONG. YES. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT DESIGN SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE, SO WITH ACCESSING AND MAINTENANCE TO ANY DRAINAGE FACILITY FOR DETENTION AND TREATMENT, THAT'S ON THE GROUND LEVEL.

SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY HAVE SOMETHING CANTILEVER ABOVE THAT.

FIRE ACCESS IS A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER, A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT AND COMPLEX.

BUT AS PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS, THERE'S A FIRE PROTECTION PLAN THAT'S SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED BY OUR FIRE MARSHAL AND PREVENTION STAFF.

SO IF THERE ISN'T AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION TO HAVING THE FIRE LADDER ACCESS FROM A SIDE ELEVATION, THERE MIGHT BE ACCOMMODATION THROUGH ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, LIKE AN EXTERIOR CORRIDOR RUNNING ON THE SECOND OR THIRD STORY.

SO ALL THAT IS TREATED ON A VERY. AND REVIEWED ON AN AD HOC BASIS, CASE BY CASE.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE GOAL IS NOT TO BE OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE ABOUT WHAT THOSE DESIGN SOLUTIONS WILL BE, BUT JUST ALLOWING THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE A ZERO LOT LINE DEVELOPMENT IF THEY CHOOSE TO.

AND SO THAT IS THE CONSTRUCT OF THAT REGULATION AND HOW IT WORKS WITH OTHER REGULATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING CODE.

THE FIRE CODE WORKS WITHIN ITS CHAPTER 17 OF OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH ADOPTED TWO PARTS OF THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING STANDARDS CODE.

AND THEN SEPARATELY, THE STORMWATER. I MEAN, THAT'S A REGIONAL AND STATE REQUIREMENT AND SEEMS TO BE EVER EXPANDING.

SO THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS ON THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, BUT AT LEAST IT'S THERE.

AND IF THERE IS A DESIGN SOLUTION, THEN THE DEVELOPER IS ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THAT.

WELL, IT'S SOMETHING THAT KEEPS COMING UP, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAYBE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BARRIO PLAN IN RELATIONSHIP TO THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE CITY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEING TREATED WITH THE INTENT OF WHAT THE BARRIO PLAN IS SAYING WHEN IT COMES TO ZERO LOT LINE.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE ON THAT.

THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, HAD A LOT TO DO WITH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROJECT WE SAW BEFORE THIS THAT TURNING RADIUS IN THE CIRCLE WITH THE BIKE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU DISCUSSED EARLIER. THE SB 79 AND THE AB 2097 ARE STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS THAT ARE LAWS NOW THAT ARE AFFECTING OUR HOUSING.

AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH IS, ESPECIALLY WITH 79, WE HAVE THESE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN STREETS THAT ARE WITHIN A HALF MILE RADIUS OF THE TRAIN STATION.

AND WE KNOW ALREADY THAT THERE'S A TRAIN PROPOSAL IN AN RFP RFQ THAT'S COME OUT FOR THE TRAIN STATION ITSELF.

AND SO IF THAT INCREASES DENSITY AND THEY DO GET A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, OUR DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY. SO I AM CONCERNED THAT WITH SOME OF THESE NEW LAWS BEING IN EFFECT AND ALSO THE POTENTIAL OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN THOSE AREAS, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE TOMORROW, WE MAY, AS A BOARD, AND OF COURSE A COUNCIL, NEED TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS MAYBE BEFORE THEY HAPPEN.

AND IF THE TRACKS EVER GET BURIED, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW.

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I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TRACKS BURIED, YOU KNOW? SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES.

WILL THE. AND IT DOES TALK ABOUT THE ANNUAL ZONING ORDINANCE CLEANUP AMENDMENT, SB 79 AND AB 2097 ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THAT. OR ARE THEY ALREADY INCORPORATED? MR. STRONG AB 2097 AND SB 79 ARE EFFECTIVE AND STATE STATUTE.

AND SO THAT IS BY OPERATION ALREADY EFFECTIVE.

IN THE CITY, THERE WAS A DELAYED TIMELINE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SB 79 IN THOSE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY SB 79.

OUR INITIAL ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT SB 79 DID NOT APPLY IN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD BASED ON THE OPERATIONS OF THE HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT.

SO THE OMNIBUS IS ULTIMATELY DESIGNED TO ADDRESS AND CLARIFY ANY AMBIGUITIES OR INTERPRETATIONS AS A CLEANUP TO REFLECT TECHNICAL OR CLERICAL CHANGES IN THE CODE TO MAKE IT MORE USER FRIENDLY.

OR TO ADDRESS THINGS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL THAT HAVE BEEN CLARIFIED THROUGH POLICY OTHERWISE.

FOR ANY TOPICS THAT DO RELATE TO A NEW POLICY OR SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO GET PUBLIC INPUT ON, OR IT WOULD BENEFIT THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, WE WOULD LIKELY NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE OMNIBUS PACKAGE AND WOULD BE PROCESSING IT SEPARATELY. IF THE COMMISSION DESIRES TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION OVER SB 79 AND AB 2097 AND OTHER LAWS THAT MIGHT RESTRICT PARKING OR CHANGE THE TRANSPORTATION ENVIRONMENT IN OUR DOWNTOWN, THAT CERTAINLY CAN BE A SUGGESTION FOR INCLUSION IN THE WORK PLAN AS A TRAINING OR LEARNING SESSION OPPORTUNITY.

WE DO HAVE SOME ENGINEERING STAFF WITH US THIS EVENING, IF THERE'S SPECIFICS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE STREET DESIGN AND THE PROCESS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND HOW THAT MIGHT RELATE TO ANY PENDING OR PIPELINE PROJECTS.

BUT BEYOND THAT, WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IF THERE'S SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDED TO THE WORK PLAN, THIS WOULD BE THAT OPPORTUNITY. HAVING SAID THAT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP MONTHS FROM NOW THAT THE COMMISSION FEELS LIKE YOU REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT, WE CAN CERTAINLY AGENDIZE THAT AND DOCKET AT THAT SEPARATELY.

I SUDDENLY ASKED COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, MAYBE YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING POSSIBLY MIGHT BE PART OF THE TRAINING THAT WOULD BE APPLIED. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, THE MASTER PLAN IN REGARD TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU SPOKE OF, STAFF CAN VERY EASILY MAKE THAT A PART OF THE NEXT TRAINING SESSION THAT WE WILL HAVE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, POSSIBLY, OR MAYBE YOU CAN SUBMIT TO MR. STRONG OR MR. LARDY A LIST OF ONES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME TRAINING ON THAT WOULD BE IDEAL AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TRAINING ALREADY A PART OF THE 26-27 PLAN.

WELL, YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I DO THINK THAT UNDERSTANDING THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD TOGETHER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN ALL THE HOUSING LAWS CAME OUT WERE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OF THOSE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND JUST TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DOUBLE UP ON THOSE MEETINGS WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A ROBUST STATE LEGISLATIVE SERIES OF CHANGES THAT ARE FACING US WITH OUR OUR COMMUNITY IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ELEMENT TO BE ABLE TO HELP US DO OUR JOB BETTER. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL IS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH INTERPRETING AND UNDERSTANDING THESE BIGGER CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME RIGHT NOW WITH THE E-BIKE CONVERSATION. AND OBVIOUSLY THE VILLAGE AND BARRIO MASTER PLAN IS ONE OF THE MOST DENSE AREAS AND IT'S PRESUMED TO BE DENSER, AND MY CONCERN WITH THE INCREASE IN DENSITY, JUST AS WE WERE ADDING AN ADU TO THIS HOUSE IN THE LAST PROJECT, CERTAINLY THE. AND THAT'S NOT AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN STREET.

THOSE ARE NOT. THEY HAVE SIDEWALKS. BUT SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL THAT ARE INCREASING IN DENSITY.

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I MEAN, IF OUR KIDS CAN'T RIDE THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO RIDE THEM? YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS REALLY WHY I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT, WITH THE DENSITY INCREASES AND THE ALLOWABLE ADUS AND THE SUBDIVISION OF SB 9, HAVING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ALL OVER OUR CITY, IF OUR KIDS CAN ACTUALLY GET THEIR BIKE TO SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPETING WITH THE CARS AND THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS TO THESE AREAS.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN REVISITED SINCE THE 90S, AND I'M CONCERNED MAYBE WE NEED TO REVISIT THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN STREET METHODOLOGY, JUST TO UNDERSTAND IF WE CAN GET OUR KIDS SAFELY TO THEIR SCHOOLS OR AND HOME AGAIN.

SO THOSE ARE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE. BUT I THINK THE BARRIO PLAN WOULD BE A GOOD WORKSHOP FOR SURE.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. COMMISSIONER STRONG, HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED OR NOTED SOME OF THE, I GUESS, ITEMS THAT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR A TRAINING SESSION THAT.

MRS. EXCUSE ME. COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY HAS MADE REFERENCE TO.

I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS THAT WOULD ENGAGE MORE THAN ONE SESSION.

YES. I'M HEARING SOME IDEAS. YES. OKAY. I WOULD SUGGEST COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY MAYBE POSSIBLY PROVIDING A LIST OF ABOUT 2 OR 3, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY ITEMS OF INTEREST.

THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND TRAINING WOULD BE IDEAL TO HEAR FROM STAFF.

I AGREE WITH YOU IN REGARD TO THE LEGISLATION ASPECT OF IT.

WE HAD ONE A WAYS BACK IN REGARD TO THE VARIOUS HOUSING BILLS, BUT MAYBE IT'S TIME TO COME BACK AGAIN, GIVEN THAT IT'S A NEW YEAR, SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ITEM AS WELL.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY. ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? OKAY. WITH THAT, I'M NOW GOING TO OPEN UP PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

MINUTES CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS TO SPEAK? NO, CHAIR, WE DO NOT. I WILL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. SEEING NONE. WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER BURROWS.

MOTION.

FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER MERZ.

SECOND. AS A CLARIFYING, DO WE WANT TO MAKE ANY FURTHER ADDITIONS TO THAT MOTION? PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. APPROVED. YOU GOT YOUR MARCHING ORDERS, MR. STRONG. OKAY. I WILL NOW CLOSE DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS. COMMISSIONERS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REPORT ANYTHING IN REGARD TO.

[COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

COMMISSIONER MERZ, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD NO.

COMMISSIONER LAFFERTY, I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOMETHING.

IN REGARD TO HOUSING. WELL, JUST GOING BACK TO THE THREE THINGS YOU WANTED ME TO MENTION.

VILLAGE BARRIO MASTER PLAN, THE STATE LEGISLATIVE IMPACTS ON OUR MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN STREETS.

THOSE ARE THE THREE ITEMS. BUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO MR. STRONG FOR THE DATE ON THAT. I HOPE HE DOES A GOOD JOB.

I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY HARD ACT TO FOLLOW. MR. STRONG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD? NO. OKAY. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU THEN.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BURROWS. COMMISSIONER FOSTER.

I HAVE NOTHING. ALL RIGHT. MR. STRONG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REPORT? YES. THE FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT THERE IS NEW BUSINESS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 6TH AND MAY 20TH.

SO WE PLAN ON HAVING TWO MEETINGS IN MAY. WITH RESPECT TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION CONVENED THE SECOND MONDAY OF MAY.

SORRY. OF MARCH. AND WE'LL CONVENE AGAIN THE SECOND MONDAY IN MAY.

THE PRIMARY EFFORT THAT THE COMMISSION IS CURRENTLY UNDERTAKING IS PROMOTING THE THIRD GRADE ART CONTEST.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED AT THE END OF MAY TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT IT IS A REALLY FUN ACTIVITY.

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THE CHAMBER IS FILLED WITH THIRD GRADERS FROM OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS.

LAST YEAR WE HAD SIX SCHOOLS PARTICIPATING. AND THE WALLS ARE ADORNED WITH ART, SHOWCASING THE COLLECTIVE EFFORTS TO REPRESENT OUR HISTORY. AFTER THE EVENT, THE ARTWORK IS TAKEN AND PRESENTED AT A LIBRARY AND HELD THERE THROUGH SEPTEMBER 1ST. THIS YEAR WE HAVE 12 SCHOOLS PARTICIPATING.

SO WHEN I SAY THE CHAMBER WILL BE FULL OF CHILDREN, IT WILL BE FULL OF CHILDREN.

SO IT WILL BE A REALLY NEAT EVENT. SO I WOULD SUGGEST CHECKING IN AND LISTENING THAT WE HAVE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ATTENDING AND HELPING PASS OUT THE AWARD CERTIFICATES TO EACH PARTICIPATING CHILD AND ACCEPTING THE PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

THE DATES AGAIN ON THAT? OR THE DATE? I REMEMBER IT IS NOT MAY 28TH, BECAUSE AT ONE POINT I SAID IT WAS MAY 28TH AND I WAS WRONG, BUT IT IS ONE OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEETINGS IN MAY.

OKAY. THAT'S ADEQUATE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THE OTHER ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION IS WORKING ON IS THE PLAQUE PROGRAM.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WE DID RECEIVE OUR FIRST NOMINATION FOR THE FOUR-HANDS MURAL THAT'S LOCATED IN OUR BARRIO AREA.

AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN CONSIDERING.

AND THE OTHER ITEM THAT THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN WORKING ON, WHICH IS PROBABLY PERTINENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IS HISTORIC BENEFITS AND INCENTIVES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ON THE COMMISSION'S WORK PLAN FOR THE LAST TWO PERIODS.

AND CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED LAST MAY TO AUTHORIZE THE ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE.

THOSE WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE OMNIBUS BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE RECEIVE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ON.

SO THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND WHAT THAT IS SEEKING TO ACCOMPLISH IS TWOFOLD.

ONE IS TO PROVIDE A VARIANCE PROCESS. SO CURRENTLY OUR VARIANCE PROCESS, WHICH PROVIDES RELIEF FROM LAND USE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS TO REDUCE SETBACK STANDARDS OR BUILDING HEIGHT STANDARDS BECAUSE OF CERTAIN FINDINGS SPECIFIC TO UNIQUE PROPERTY CIRCUMSTANCES, OR SOMETHING THAT'S DENIED TO ONE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE OTHERS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY ENJOY.

THIS WOULD FOCUS THE FINDINGS TO BE MORE RELATED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

SO THE VARIANCE IS NECESSARY TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT OF A PROPERTY PROVIDED THAT THE ALTERATION OR REHABILITATION OF THE ELEMENT OF HISTORIC RESOURCE ON THE PROPERTY IS PRESERVED.

SO A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE, A HISTORIC PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO DEVELOP AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE INSTEAD OF ADDING TO OR ALTERING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

IT WILL BE DETACHED AND LOCATED CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED.

SO THAT IS ONE EXAMPLE. THE OTHER IS ALLOWING A HISTORIC OR A MAJOR HOME BASED BUSINESS PERMIT, WHICH WOULD EXCEED THE LIMITATIONS OF OUR CURRENT HOME BASED BUSINESS MODEL AND ALLOW MORE INTENSIVE USES, MORE COMMERCIAL TYPES ALLOWED ONLY IN HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE LOCAL REGISTER.

SO IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO SUBSIDIZE THE ONGOING PRESERVATION OF AN EXISTING RESOURCE LOCATED IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO MORE TO COME ON THAT AS PART OF THE OMNIBUS.

AND THAT WILL BE AN ELEMENT OF THAT AND IT LIKELY WILL BE PRESENTED IN FALL.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. STRONG. CITY ATTORNEY. NOTHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WITH THAT, THE CARLSBAD PLANNING COMMISSION STANDS ADJOURNED AT 5:50 P.M.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.