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I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER.
ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
[ANNOUNCEMENT OF CONCURRENT MEETINGS]
I HAVE TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT.CITY COUNCIL IS SERVING AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON DEPARTMENTAL AND CITY MANAGER REPORTS, ITEM NUMBER 16.
KEVIN, I'M SORRY, MR. SHIN, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? YES, PLEASE RISE ALL.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NEXT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.THAT'LL BE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING HELD MARCH 24TH OF 26.
REGULAR MEETING HELD APRIL 14TH OF 26.
AND THE REGULAR MEETING HELD APRIL 28TH OF 26.
[PRESENTATIONS]
I INVITE MAYOR PROTHAMBHATT PATEL TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING PRESENTATION.AND TODAY WE'LL BE HONORING PRIDE MONTH.
AND FOR THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MS. SARAH HUNTER AND BRING HER UP TO THE PODIUM.
AND THEN BEFORE MS. HUNTER BEGINS, I'D LIKE TO JUST SHARE A FEW WORDS AND SHARE THE PROCLAMATION.
THIS YEAR'S THEME IS PRIDE SHINES ON, AND THAT JOURNEY TO GET HERE HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN EASY.
I KNOW THAT IN CARLSBAD, WHEN WE FIRST RECOGNIZED PRIDE, SINCE THEN, WE'VE SHOWN UP, SPOKEN UP, AND PUSHED US.
TO BE BETTER, AND TONIGHT'S PROCLAMATION IS A CELEBRATION OF THAT PERSISTENCE AND A REMINDER THAT THE CITY STANDS WITH EVERY MEMBER OF OUR LGBTQIA PLUS COMMUNITY.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ OUR PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS OUR NATION WAS FOUNDED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE, AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD SUPPORTS THE RIGHT OF EVERY CITIZEN TO EXPERIENCE EQUALITY AND FREEDOM FROM DISCRIMINATION, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD HAS AN INCLUSIVE LGBTQIA PLUS COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTING TO THE ENRICHMENT OF OUR CITY, AND WHEREAS THE THEME OF PRIDE MONTH 2026 IS...
PRIDE SHINES ON, FOCUSED ON CHOOSING TO SHINE IN LOVE AND RESOLUTION, OUR LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER, AND OUR RESOLVE TO FOSTER PRIDE AND EQUALITY.
WE SHINE BECAUSE OF OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH, DIVERSITY, AND COMPLEXITY WE HOLD.
AND WHEREAS IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT ALL PEOPLE THAT LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY IN OUR COMMUNITY, REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR GENDER IDENTITY, FEEL VALUED, SAFE, EMPOWERED, AND SUPPORTED.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL URGES EVERYONE TO EMBRACE THE PRINCIPLES OF EQUALITY AND LIBERTY, TO RESPECT AND HONOR OUR DIVERSITY, AND TO CELEBRATE AND BUILD A CULTURE OF INCLUSIVENESS AND ACCEPTANCE.
THEREFORE, I, MAYOR PRO TEM PRIYABHAT PATEL, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JUNE 2026 AS LGBTQIA PLUS PRIDE MONTH.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO MR. HUNTER.
WELL, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR INCLUDING US IN THE ANNUAL PRIDE PROCLAMATION. THIS YEAR, WE ARE THRILLED TO SEE THE PRIDE FLAG FLYING AT BOTH CITY HALL AND CARLSBAD UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.
TO MAYOR PRO TEM, BAT PATEL, COUNCIL MEMBERS ACOSTA AND SHIN FOR YOUR VOCAL ALLYSHIP.
AS A PROUD TEACHER AND MOM, I AM HONORED TO BEGIN BY READING SOME WORDS PREPARED BY ONE OF MY STUDENTS WHO COULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ELEANOR LABOUCHOU DE CHAMPS-EVANS, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF SAGE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL'S GENDER SEXUALITY ALLIANCE CLUB.
THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR FLYING THE PRIDE FLAG AT CITY HALL.
AS A QUEER STUDENT, THIS MAKES ME FEEL TRULY SEEN AND HEARD BY MY CITY AND MY COMMUNITY.
WHEN I WAS A FRESHMAN, I WAS TERRIFIED OF THE VERY IDEA OF HIGH SCHOOL, WORRIED THAT PEOPLE MIGHT JUDGE ME OR MAKE FUN OF ME.
BUT THE GSA CLUB MADE ME FEEL WELCOMED, AND IT MADE ME FEEL AT HOME.
SEEING THE PRIDE FLAG IN FRONT OF CITY HALL LETS ME KNOW THAT I'M WELCOMED, THAT THIS COMMUNITY WILL NOT HATE ME FOR WHO I AM, AND THAT CARLSBAD IS A SAFE AND WELCOMING PLACE.
ESPECIALLY TODAY, THE QUEER COMMUNITY IN CARLSBAD NEEDS A SAFE, WELCOMING CITY THAT THEY CAN LOOK TO IN TIMES SUCH AS THESE.
IT PROVES THAT THIS IS NOT A FLAG THAT WE RAISE, NOT JUST A CERTIFICATE ON THE WALL, BUT A SYMBOL THAT WE ARE SAFE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE PRIDE PROCLAMATION AND FLYING OF THE FLAG ALLOWS US TO EMBRACE WHO WE TRULY ARE WITHOUT THE FEAR AND WORRY THAT SOMEONE WILL HATE US.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ELEANOR FOR SHARING HER WORDS WITH US AND FOR ARTICULATING THE IMPORTANCE OF DAYS LIKE TODAY IN AFFIRMING OUR LGBTQ PLUS YOUTH.
AS THE GSA ADVISOR FOR NEARLY 10 YEARS, I CAN SAY THAT AT THE ROOT OF EVERY LESSON I HAVE LEARNED FROM MY STUDENTS IS THAT LGBTQ PLUS YOUTH ARE SIMPLY SEEKING LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE.
LOVE IN RECOGNIZING THAT WE ARE MORE ALIKE THAN WE ARE DIFFERENT.
LOVE AS THE BARE MINIMUM EXPECTATION FOR HOW WE PARENT, TEACH, AND SHOW UP FOR ONE ANOTHER.
ACCEPTING LGBTQ PLUS YOUTH JUST
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AS THEY ARE, WHETHER IT IS A PHASE OF EXPLORATION, FORM OF SELF-EXPRESSION, OR EMBRACING THEIR TRUTH, IS GIVING THEM THE GIFT OF FREEDOM.FREEDOM TO EXIST WITHOUT FEAR OF JUDGMENT OR BEING TOLD THEY ARE WRONG.
LOVE AFFIRMS. LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE SAVE LIVES.
BOTH LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE WERE BEAUTIFULLY ON DISPLAY ON SATURDAY AT PRIDE BY THE BEACH IN OCEANSIDE.
IN CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE AT THE EVENT AFTER WE DISCUSSED THAT I'M A GSA ADVISOR, SHE MENTIONED THAT A FAMILY MEMBER IS CRITICAL OF SAGE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE, QUOTE, EVERYONE IS GAY THERE.
EVERYONE GAY? THIS IS, OF COURSE, SIMPLY UNTRUE AND STATISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, BUT IT BOTH MADE ME LAUGH AND GAVE ME PAUSE.
SO WHAT IF EVERY KID AT ANY GIVEN SCHOOL DID IDENTIFY AS LGBTQ PLUS? I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THE SAME PERSON FRAMING IT AS A BAD THING IF EVERY PERSON IN A SCHOOL WERE GAY WOULD BE PERFECTLY PLEASED TO FIND A SCHOOL WHERE EVERY PERSON IN IT WAS STRAIGHT, WHICH STATISTICALLY SPEAKING IS ALSO NOT A THING.
WHAT A WEIRD TAKE TO JUDGE A SCHOOL BASED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE THERE ARE GAY.
HOW ABOUT MEASURING A SCHOOL, A FAMILY, OR A CITY BASED ON THEIR WILLINGNESS TO EXTEND LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE TO EVERYONE UNCONDITIONALLY? THIS YEAR AND EVERY YEAR, PRIDE AND THE CELEBRATION OF IT MUST BE ABOUT CULTIVATING MEANINGFUL CHANGE, LOVE, AND ACCEPTANCE.
TOO OFTEN THESE DAYS, WE ARE SEEING PEOPLE WEAPONIZE PRIDE AND USE IT TO FUEL HATE, ANGER, AND FEAR AGAINST THE LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY, WHO HAVE FOUGHT FOR GENERATIONS TO SIMPLY EXIST.
MAY OUR JOY BE UNDETERRED AND OUR EXISTENCE CONTINUE TO BE AN ENTIRE VIBE POWERED BY UNITY AND ROOTED IN RESISTANCE.
THANK YOU, CITY OF CARLSBAD, FOR STANDING WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
SARAH, WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN US UP HERE FOR A PHOTOGRAPH? IT'S GOING TO BE THE CENTER OF THE...
TOUCH SHOULDERS BUT DON'T SQUISH THEM IN THAT WAY, IT'S A BETTER PICTURE.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.THE BROWN ACT AND THE CITY'S MEETING RULES ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS ARE REGARDING MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS RELATE TO THE QUESTION OR MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION.
INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.
NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON ANY NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN MAKING YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY, AND RESPECT.
WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.
THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME.
AT THE END OF TWO AND A HALF MINUTES, THE PODIUM LIGHT WILL TURN YELLOW, LETTING YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOWN TO 30 SECONDS.
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AND I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THREE MINUTES.THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT TO SPEAK.
PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.
IT'S LOVELY TO BE HERE TONIGHT, AS ALWAYS.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE ASSOCIATION.
AND THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE ASSOCIATION, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, WE ARE A MAIN STREET AFFILIATE.
WE'RE ONE OF 35 ASSOCIATIONS IN THE STATE.
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND ONE OF 2,000 MAIN STREET ASSOCIATIONS IN THE ENTIRE NATION AND UNDERNEATH THE MAIN STREET AMERICA UMBRELLA.
AND WHAT MAIN STREET ASSOCIATIONS ARE DESIGNED TO DO IS SHINE A LIGHT ON THE AMAZING SMALL BUSINESSES IN THEIR DISTRICT.
FOR ME, THAT'S CARLSBAD VILLAGE, AND HELP MAKE OUR DISTRICT, CARLSBAD VILLAGE, SHINE.
SO WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU ALL ABOUT AND THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING AND IN THE AUDIENCE ABOUT TWO AMAZING EVENTS.
THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THESE ARE SMALL BUSINESS ACTIVATION EVENTS.
THEY ALSO, AGAIN, SHINE A LIGHT ON CARLSBAD VILLAGE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE STAND FOR, OUR CULTURE, AND THE AMAZING THINGS THAT WE DO DOWNTOWN.
ART IN THE VILLAGE IS ON JUNE 28TH FROM 10 A.M.
SO IT'S 28 YEARS OF CREATIVITY AT THE COAST.
WE NOW HAVE OVER 160 FINE ARTISTS.
VERY SPECIALLY LAID OUT WITH THE BOOTHS IN THE MIDDLE FACING OUR BUSINESSES SO THAT OUR BUSINESSES GET A LOT OF EXPOSURE.
IT BRINGS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, AND IT'S AN AMAZING DAY.
IN ADDITION TO THE BOOTHS, WE HAVE LIVE MUSIC, CHALK AND PERFORMANCE ART.
WE HAVE A MURALIST, TAYLOR GALLEGOS, ONE OF OUR LOCAL PREEMINENT MURALISTS.
DOING A MURAL ALL DAY LONG, WHICH WILL BE AMAZING.
WE HAVE CHALK ARTISTS ALSO CREATING ALL DAY LONG.
WE HAVE THE INTERACTIVE POP-UP ART BOOTH FROM THE CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD, 400 SQUARE FEET OF ART MAKING FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES.
THEY'VE GOT A FUN ACTIVITY THIS TIME, SO COME ON OUT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A LITTLE ONE TO DO IT.
SO WE HOPE EVERYONE WILL COME DOWN, PUT THAT ON THEIR CALENDAR, COME ON DOWN, ENJOY THE VILLAGE FOR THE ENTIRE DAY.
SPEND TIME WITH OUR BUSINESSES IN OUR RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ALSO, FLICKS AT THE FOUNTAIN STARTS JULY 9TH, FIVE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS OF MOVIES UNDER THE STARS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 13 YEARS NOW, AND WE'VE HAD MARRIAGE PROPOSALS TAKE PLACE THERE.
WE'VE HAD BABY ANNOUNCEMENTS TAKE PLACE.
IT'S JUST ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A GREAT MOVIE LINEUP, AND AGAIN, IT BRINGS PEOPLE INTO THE VILLAGE, INTO OUR BUSINESSES, INTO OUR RESTAURANTS.
SITTING IN A PARKING LOT WITH 200 OF YOUR CLOSEST FRIENDS, WATCHING HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGONS.
SO I HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT.
I'M MAYOR OF COUNCIL DIANE NYGAARD REPRESENTING PRESERVE CALAVERA.
PLEASE ASK THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION TO MOVE THE HEARING FOR PONTO TO SAN DIEGO IN OCTOBER.
OCTOBER RATHER THAN KEEPING IT JULY 5TH IN VENTURA.
THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION HAS TOLD US THAT THE REQUEST NEEDS TO COME FROM THE CITY.
IT WOULD BE A REAL DISSERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY TO ASK THEM TO DEAL WITH THE CURRENT SCHEDULE.
THE COASTAL COMMISSION DOES ALLOW TESTIMONY REMOTELY, BUT I HAVE DONE THAT.
I FOUND IT EXTREMELY COMPLICATED TO MAKE IT WORK, AND IT TOOK THREE TIMES TO GET THE AUDIO CONNECTION TO ACTUALLY WORK ON THEIR END.
SO PLEASE PUT THE PEOPLE OF CARLSBAD FIRST.
AND ASK FOR THIS HEARING TO BE SCHEDULED LOCALLY WHERE IT'S OPTIMUM FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE.
FRED BRIGGS? MY NAME IS FRED BRIGGS.
I LIVE ON BASSWOOD AVENUE UP BY THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 1983.
I BELIEVE THAT OUR BEACH AND COASTLINE AREAS ARE OUR MOST PRECIOUS ASSETS.
AND THAT THESE RESOURCES DEFINE CARLSBAD'S CHARACTER AND LIFESTYLES.
TO SUPPORT THAT CONNECTION, I HAVE SERVED EIGHT YEARS ON THE BEACH PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, PREDECESSOR OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, AND 15 MONTHS MORE RECENTLY HELPING PREPARE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT CITIZENS COMMITTEE REPORT.
THAT DOCUMENT DEFINES WHAT ITS CITIZENS EXPECT FROM THEIR CITY.
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EFFORT WAS TO PREPARE A QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS AND RECOMMENDATIONS REPORT FOR THE COUNCIL.THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCIL LAST YEAR.
UNDER THE COASTLINE SECTION, THE REPORT IN PART RECOGNIZES THAT THE SEA LEVEL RISE AND BEACH EROSION ARE CAUSING GREAT IMPACT ON OUR BEACH USE AND ACCESS.
THE COMMITTEE GAVE STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE CITY GIVE TOP PRIORITY TO EXPANSION, PROTECTION, AND ENHANCEMENT OF PUBLIC ACCESS.
AND COMMUNITY USE OF THE BEACH AND THE BLUFFS OVERLOOKING THE BEACH.
A NON-BINDING VOTE WITH TWO-THIRDS APPROVAL WAS TAKEN DURING THE LAST MEETING OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AS TO WHETHER TO INCLUDE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT OF A PUBLIC PARK IN THE PONTO AREA.
THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT INCLUDED DUE TO A CHARTER RESTRICTION.
ON SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT BUILDING RECREATIONAL FACILITIES SLIGHTLY INLAND FROM THE BEACH WITH ACCESS TO THE BEACH WAS FAVORED BY THE COMMITTEE.
THE PROPOSED LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM CHANGE IS BEST CONSIDERED IN OCTOBER RATHER THAN IN JULY.
THIS WOULD PERMIT CONSIDERATION OF...
ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE LCP WHILE GOING FOR THE COASTAL COMMISSION REVIEW.
MY INTENT IS THAT THIS POSTPONEMENT WOULD ALLOW TIME FOR CITIZENS' PREPARATION FOR THE TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS RECOMMENDED IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT REPORT.
HI, LANE SCHULTE, ESCALONIA COURT IN CARLSBAD, 35-YEAR RESIDENT.
THE OLD MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN DECEMBER 2021 SUBMITTED AND THEN STAFF LATER WITHDREW AND THEN LATER RESUBMITTED A PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM AMENDMENT FOR THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION DETERMINATION CONSISTENCY WITH THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL ACT.
HOWEVER, IT SEEMS THE CITY STAFF NOW IS SUBMITTING TWO BIFURCATED LCPS, ONE FOR PONTO.
AND THE OTHER FOR THE REST OF CARLSBAD.
THE STAFF'S APPARENT BIFURCATION SEEMS TO BE DESIGNED TO DISCOURAGE CARLSBAD CITIZEN INPUT, BOTH FROM ATTENDING THE PONTO LCP MEETINGS, AS MENTIONED, IN VENTURA, 200 MILES AWAY, TWO DAYS AFTER THE JULY 4TH HOLIDAY, AND ALSO TO DISCONNECT THE IMPORTANT PONTO COASTAL LAND USE ISSUES FROM THE REST OF THE CITY.
THIS IS PROBLEMATIC AND CITIZENS REQUEST THE CITY COUNCIL BY MINUTE MOTION TONIGHT COMMUNICATE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION TO HOLD BOTH LCP REQUESTS AT THE SAME DAY AT THE MEETING IN OCTOBER.
RECENTLY STAFF SAID TO US THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING AT PONTO WOULD BE RIGHT AFTER THE JULY 4TH HOLIDAY AND AND...
AND ANYWAYS, IN VENTURA, QUITE A WAYS AWAY.
SO CARLSBAD CITIZENS ASKED THE COASTAL COMMISSION TO HOLD THE LCP HEARINGS TOGETHER IN MID-OCTOBER SO THAT EVERYONE COULD PARTICIPATE AND THE INTERCONNECTED ISSUES COULD BE DISCUSSED.
THE COASTAL COMMISSION TOLD CITIZENS THAT WE NEEDED TO ASK THE CARLSBAD CITY COUNCIL TO REQUEST THAT CHANGE.
WE COULD NOT MAKE THAT CHANGE.
WE WERE TOLD THE COUNCIL CAN AND SHOULD DO IT.
IT APPEARS THAT THE CITY'S COUNCIL STAFF, BASED ON THAT, WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROPOSED BIFURCATION AND THE JULY 4TH HOLIDAY MEETING 200 MILES AWAY.
THE PROPOSED BIFURCATION UNDERMINES THE PRINCIPLES OF FAIRNESS, APPROPRIATENESS, AND STAFF'S OWN JUSTIFICATION FOR THE COASTAL ACT, WHICH IS BASICALLY A COMPREHENSIVE LCP AND THE LOGICAL INTERCONNECTION OF PONTO AND THE REST OF CARLSBAD ISSUES.
PONTO HAS A VERY SPECIFIC LAND USE REQUIREMENT TO ADDRESS THE COASTAL RECREATION, I.E.
PUBLIC NEED, AT PONTO WEST OF THE RAILROAD.
YET STAFF IN 2021 AND NOW IS SAYING THAT PONTO'S PARK NEED IS NOT ADDRESSED WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACK AS REQUIRED, BUT EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACK AT VETERANS PARK, SIX MILES AWAY AND OUTSIDE OF PONTO'S LCP
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AREA.THESE STAFF STATEMENTS ARE NOT WHAT THE PONTO LCP SAYS.
AND ARE AT ODDS WITH THE CITY'S JUSTIFICATION FOR FUNDING OF LCP ISSUES.
WE AGAIN ASK THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS AND MOVE THE...
MR. SCHULTE, IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM IS MIKE STRONG.
WOULD YOU PLEASE TALK WITH HIM? AND, MS. NYGAARD, HE MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL.
[CONSENT CALENDAR]
NEXT IS CONSENT CALENDAR, ITEMS NUMBER 1 THROUGH 10.DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON 1 THROUGH 10? YES.
GARY NESSUM ADDRESSING ITEM NUMBER 10.
THANK YOU, MAYOR BLACKBURN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'D LIKE TO, I NOTICED THIS ON THE AGENDA, I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE SHOPS AT CARLSBAD TO BE DEVELOPED WITH MOSTLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND I THINK IT'S IN ALL OF YOUR BEST INTEREST AND THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO PUSH FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THE SHOPS AT CARLSBAD.
AND SINCE THIS IS OPENING FOR NEGOTIATION, IF THE NEGOTIATOR DOESN'T HAVE A PUSH FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GET THE SAME THING AS YOU MIGHT GET, LET'S SAY, AT A BRESCI RANCH BEING DEVELOPED AT THE SHOPS AT CARLSBAD.
A NICE, WELL-ROUNDED COMMUNITY THAT HAS EVERYTHING YOU WANT IN IT, BUT HAS JUST THE 15% AFFORDABLE HOUSING MINIMUM.
WE REALLY NEED A LOT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE'D LIKE TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING WITH THE STATE THAT'S SUCH THAT, LET'S SAY WE PUT A COUPLE THOUSAND UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH ARE POLICE, FIRE, AND TEACHER KIND OF HOUSING, INTO THAT AREA, THAT WE MIGHT BE RELIEVED OF THE REST OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS IN THE REST OF THE CITY, SO THAT YOU COULD VOTE ON PROJECTS THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, NO, WHEN YOU DON'T LIKE THEM.
INSTEAD OF RIGHT NOW, YOUR HANDS ARE KIND OF HANDCUFFED.
BUT THAT'S YOUR OWN FAULT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT NEGOTIATING WITH THE STATE AND YOU'RE NOT OFFERING ANYTHING.
ALL YOU'RE DOING IS COMPLAINING THAT THE STATE IS HANDCUFFING US AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
WELL, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER.
YOU CAN OFFER THE SHOPS AT CARLSBAD AS MOSTLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND GET A LARGE NUMBER, MAYBE 50% OF OUR RENA NUMBERS, INTO THAT AREA AND NEGOTIATE THAT.
CARLSBAD'S AN EXAMPLE, AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE HALF OUR ARENA NUMBERS AND HAVE THAT SATISFY OUR REQUIREMENT.
BUT YOU'D HAVE TO PUSH YOUR NEGOTIATOR, CURTIS JACKSON, TO BE PUSHING FOR THAT IN NEGOTIATING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE, NOT THE MOST ECONOMICALLY SUCCESSFUL ITEM YOU COULD GET.
ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU CAN DO AS SUCCESSFUL ITEMS AS YOU WANT, BUT ON THIS PUBLIC PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO DO A PUBLIC NEED, WHICH IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND YOU SHOULD PUSH FOR PONTO PARK AT THE SAME TIME, TOO.
MR. NISSEN, WOULD YOU TALK WITH JEFF MURPHY A LITTLE BIT? HE COULD FILL YOU IN ON SOME OF THE THINGS YOU JUST ADDRESSED.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
ANYONE ON COUNCIL WISH TO PULL AN ITEM, ASK ANY QUESTIONS, MAKE ANY COMMENTS? MOTION.
[11. DISTRICT 2 APPOINTMENT OF ONE MEMBER TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION ]
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ITEM NUMBER 11? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.AND THIS IS A DISTRICT 2 APPOINTMENT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO PUT AN APPLICATION IN.
THERE WERE TWO GREAT FINALISTS, WHICH WERE CAROLYN ALKIRE AND RACHEL BARRALES.
THEY HAD A SIGNIFICANT BACKGROUND IN NOT ONLY IN EDUCATION BUT PROFESSIONAL SETTINGS IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT I'VE CHOSEN CAROLYN ALKIRE AS OUR NEXT COMMISSIONER, IF SO, VOTED ON.
[12. AMENDMENTS TO CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 5.16 – MASSAGE SERVICES]
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.ITEM 12 ARE AMENDMENTS TO THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE RELATED TO MASSAGE SERVICES.
AND TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE POLICE LIEUTENANT ALONZO DEVALASCO.
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GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, MAYOR BLACKBURN.MY NAME IS ALONZO DE VELASCO, AND I AM CURRENTLY THE LIEUTENANT OVERSEEING THE CITY'S MASSAGE LICENSING PROGRAM.
TONIGHT I WILL DISCUSS ITEMS 12 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
ITEM 12 IS A REQUEST FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 5.16 REGARDING MASSAGE SERVICES.
THIS ORDINANCE SUPPLEMENTS EXISTING STATE REGULATIONS FOR MASSAGE THERAPISTS, ESTABLISHES LOCAL STANDARDS FOR MASSAGE BUSINESSES AND MASSAGE THERAPISTS, AND IS INTENDED TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC HEALTH, AND THE WELFARE.
CURRENTLY, MASSAGE BUSINESSES AND THERAPISTS MUST BE CERTIFIED BY THE CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THERAPY COUNCIL.
THEY MUST ALSO OBTAIN A CITY-ISSUED CERTIFICATE FOR BOTH MASSAGE BUSINESSES AND MASSAGE THERAPISTS.
ADDITIONALLY, THEY ARE TO FOLLOW ALL HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARDS AND OPERATING HOURS.
STAFF'S GOAL IN THIS AMENDMENT IS TO DO THE FOLLOWING, WHICH...
I WILL GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL DURING THIS PRESENTATION.
DETECT AND DETER UNAUTHORIZED BUSINESSES AND THERAPISTS AT THE APPLICATION PHASE.
SUBMIT LEASE AND RENTAL AGREEMENTS FOR BUSINESS LOCATIONS.
APPLICATION AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS FEES.
AND AFTER REVOCATION, INCREASING OUR REAPPLICATION BANS TO FIVE YEARS AT THE SAME LOCATION.
ADDITIONALLY, FIVE-YEAR BAN ON REVOKED OWNERS AND OPERATORS FROM WORKING IN.
OWNING OR BEING PRESENT AT ANY MASSAGE BUSINESS IN THE CITY AND IT EXTENDS THE INELIGIBILITY TO FIVE YEARS IF FORFEITED THE FIRST CHANGE I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS SECTION FIVE POINT ONE SIX POINT ZERO SEVEN ZERO IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE MASSAGE THERAPY ACT INDIVIDUAL CERTIFICATES OF REGISTRATION WILL NO LONGER BE ISSUED DOCUMENTATION PREVIOUSLY REQUIRED FOR AN INDIVIDUAL CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION IS NOW PART OF THE GENERAL MASSAGE APPLICATION PROCESS.
THE SECOND CHANGE IS TO 5.16.080.
THIS SECTION REQUIRES MASSAGE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE NOT CAMT CERTIFIED AND OWN MORE THAN 5% OF THE BUSINESS TO PROVIDE A LIVE SCREEN CRIMINAL BACKGROUND REPORT.
FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE FBI SHOWING THE APPLICANT HAS NO MULTI-STATE CONVICTIONS.
IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT THE MASSAGE BUSINESS APPLICANT TO PROVIDE A COPY OF ALL LEASE AND RENTAL AGREEMENTS FOR WHERE THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE MASSAGE BUSINESS WILL OPERATE.
THIS REQUIREMENT DOES NOT APPLY TO AN OFF-PREMISE MASSAGE BUSINESS.
AND IF A MASSAGE BUSINESS IS FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION, IT PROVIDES THE CITY WITH A DIRECT POINT OF CONTACT TO WHOM OWNS THE PROPERTY FOR FUTURE MASSAGE BUSINESS APPLICANTS.
IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR A MASSAGE BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR ILLICIT ACTIVITY TO ATTEMPT TO REOPEN AT THE SAME LOCATION UNDER A DIFFERENT APPLICANT OR BUSINESS ENTITY.
WE HAVE OBSERVED THIS PATTERN AT SEVERAL LOCATIONS IN RECENT MONTHS, REQUIRING STAFF TO CONDUCT MORE THOROUGH REVIEWS OF APPLICATIONS TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL CONNECTIONS BETWEEN NEW APPLICANTS AND INDIVIDUALS ASSOCIATED WITH PREVIOUSLY.
THE THIRD CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE IN SECTION 5.16.090, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ESTABLISH A FIVE-YEAR PROHIBITION FOLLOWING THE REVOCATION OF A MASSAGE BUSINESS CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION.
DURING THAT PERIOD, NEITHER THE FORMER CERTIFICATE NOR ANY OTHER APPLICANT MAY OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE TO OPERATE A MASSAGE BUSINESS AT THE SAME LOCATION.
THIS PROVISION IS INTENDED TO PREVENT BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED FOR VIOLATIONS FROM SIMPLY REOPENING UNDER A DIFFERENT OWNER OR BUSINESS ENTITY.
IN ADDITION, ANY INDIVIDUAL WHOSE CERTIFICATE HAS BEEN REVOKED WOULD BE PROHIBITED FOR FIVE YEARS FROM SERVING AS AN OWNER, OPERATOR, EMPLOYEE, OR INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR OF ANY MASSAGE BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND FROM BEING PRESENT ON THE PREMISE OF A MASSAGE BUSINESS.
THESE CHANGES STRENGTHEN THE CITY'S ABILITY TO DETER REPEAT VIOLATIONS PREVENT CIRCUMVENTION OF ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AND PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF LEGITIMATE MASSAGE BUSINESSES OPERATING IN COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS RECENTLY ENCOUNTERED TWO SUCH
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CASES.IN ONE INSTANCE, A MASSAGE BUSINESS WAS CLOSED AFTER EVIDENCE OF PROSTITUTION-RELATED ACTIVITY WAS DISCOVERED.
SHORTLY THEREAFTER, A NEW APPLICANT SOUGHT TO OPEN A MASSAGE BUSINESS AT THE SAME LOCATION DURING THE SCREENING PROCESS.
IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE APPLICANT WAS RELATED TO THE PREVIOUS...
BUSINESS OWNER WHO HAD THEIR CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION REVOKED.
THE APPLICANT VEHEMENTLY DENIED ANY CONNECTION TO THE FORMER OWNER.
DURING THE APPEAL PROCESS, STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE APPLICANT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN MARRIED TO THE FORMER OWNER AND CONTINUED TO SHARE THE SAME RESIDENCE.
THE CITY WAS SUCCESSFUL DURING THE APPEAL PROCESS AND DENIED THE APPLICATION.
IN A SECOND CASE, A CERTIFICATE HOLDER WHOSE REGISTRATION WAS REVOKED AFTER PROSTITUTION SERVICES WERE OFFERED AT THE BUSINESS ARRANGED FOR AN ASSOCIATE TO APPLY FOR A NEW CERTIFICATE AT THE SAME LOCATION IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE OPERATIONS.
WHILE BOTH APPLICATIONS WERE ULTIMATELY DENIED, THESE CASES ILLUSTRATE THE CHALLENGES OF PREVENTING INDIVIDUALS FROM USING FAMILY MEMBERS, ASSOCIATES, OR OTHER THIRD PARTIES TO EVADE THE CONSEQUENCES OF ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROVIDES CLEAR AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS THESE SITUATIONS AND PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE CITY'S REGULATORY PROGRAM.
REGARDING THE ADDITION OF APPLICATIONS FEES, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ADD APPLICATION FEE OF $142 AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL FEE OF $706, WHICH WOULD BE SET THROUGH THE UPDATED CITY'S MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.
THESE FEES ARE INTENDED TO HELP OFFSET THE SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME AND CITY RESOURCES REQUIRED TO PROCESS APPLICATIONS AND APPEALS, WHILE DISCOURAGING APPLICANTS WHO ARE NOT COMMITTED TO OPERATING A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.
THE APPEAL PROCESS ALSO REQUIRES SUBSTANTIAL STAFF TIME FOR DOCUMENT COLLECTION, CASE PREPARATION, AND COOPERATION.
THE PROPOSED FEES HELP ENSURE THAT APPLICANTS SHARE IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE SERVICES.
THE ADDITIONAL CHANGE TO ORDINANCE SECTION 5.16.140, THIS CHANGE PROHIBITS INTERIOR TREATMENT ROOM DOORS FROM BEING LOCKED WHILE A MASSAGE IS BEING PERFORMED WHILE STILL ALLOWING PATRONS TO LOCK A ROOM WHEN THEY ARE ALONE.
THE AMENDMENTS ALSO REQUIRE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO REMAIN UNLOCKED DURING BUSINESS HOURS WITH LIMITED EXCEPTION FOR SMALL OWNER-OPERATED BUSINESSES.
TO IMPROVE ACCOUNTABILITY, MASSAGE BUSINESSES MUST MAINTAIN DETAILED SERVICE RECORDS FOR EACH TREATMENT FOR A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS AND MAKE THOSE RECORDS IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE UPON INSPECTION.
THE AMENDMENTS FURTHER PROHIBIT THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL, MARIJUANA, OR OTHER CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES ON THE PREMISE, RESTRICT AUDIO OR VIDEO MONITORING WITHOUT THE PATRON'S WRITTEN CONSENT, AND PROHIBIT THE SALE OF ANY ADULT-ORIENTED MERCHANDISE.
COLLECTIVELY, THESE CHANGES ARE INTENDED TO ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY, SUPPORT LEGITIMATE MASSAGE BUSINESSES, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO IDENTIFY AND PREVENT ILLICIT ACTIVITY.
IN THE FINAL SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE IN SECTION 5.16.180, IT EXTENDS THE CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION INELIGIBILITY FROM ONE TO FIVE YEARS.
IF THE NOTICE OF REVOCATION IS ISSUED PRIOR TO THE CERTIFICATE HOLDER REQUESTING FORFEITURE OF A CERTIFICATE.
THIS CHANGE PREVENTS CERTIFICATE HOLDERS FROM AVOIDING THE CONSEQUENCES OF A REVOCATION BY SURRENDERING THEIR CERTIFICATE DURING THE REVOCATION PROCESS AND THEN REAPPLYING.
UNDER THE AMENDMENT, THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM OBTAINING A NEW CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION FOR FIVE YEARS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE FORFEITURE OR REVOCATION, WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST, PROMOTING ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND AGAIN STRENGTHENING THE CITY'S ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.
WE HAD A RECENT EXPERIENCE WHERE A MASSAGE BUSINESS OWNER ATTEMPTED TO FORFEIT THEIR BUSINESS CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION AFTER BEING ISSUED A NOTICE OF REVOCATION IN ATTEMPTS TO AVOID BEING PROHIBITED FROM REAPPLYING FOR A NEW CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
THAT APPLICATION WAS ALSO DENIED.
AS FOR THE FISCAL ANALYSIS, THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE IS EXPECTED TO BE MINIMAL AND WILL LARGELY BE DEPEND ON THE NUMBER OF MASSAGE BUSINESS APPLICATIONS AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS PROCESS EACH YEAR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE AS THE PRIMARY CITY DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING ENFORCING AND OVERSEEING COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE USING EXISTING RESOURCES IN CLOSING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S RECENT SUCCESS IN IDENTIFYING AND CLOSING ILLEGITIMATE MASSAGE BUSINESSES HAS ENHANCED PUBLIC SAFETY, PROTECTED RESIDENTS AND LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES, AND STRENGTHENED THE INTEGRITY OF THE CITY'S REGULATORY FRAMEWORK.
SINCE THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AMENDMENTS TO THE MASSAGE
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ORDINANCE IN 2025, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS SUCCESSFULLY SHUT DOWN FIVE ILLICIT MASSAGE BUSINESSES ENGAGED IN PROSTITUTION-RELATED SERVICES.THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS BUILD ON THAT SUCCESS BY CLOSING REGULATORY LOOPHOLES, PREVENTING INDIVIDUALS FROM REOPENING UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP OR BUSINESS ENTITIES, AND PROVIDING STRONGER SAFEGUARDS AGAINST REPEAT VIOLATIONS.
NOTABLY, THE PROPOSED FIVE-YEAR PROHIBITION ON RELICENSING FOLLOWING SERIOUS VIOLATIONS DEMONSTRATES THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO PREVENTING ILLICIT BUSINESSES FROM RETURNING AND MAINTAINING THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT APPRECIATES THE CITY COUNCIL'S CONTINUED SUPPORT AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL OF THESE AMENDMENTS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND ENSURE MASSAGE BUSINESSES OPERATE IN A SAFE, LAWFUL, AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THE ONLY CONCERN I HAD, I KIND OF BROUGHT IT UP IN OUR BRIEFING, WAS IF A PERSON COMES BACK.
AND THEY JUST END UP CHECKING THE BOX THAT THEY'RE A DIFFERENT BUSINESS, HOWEVER, THAT THEY ARE CONDUCTING PRIMARILY AS A MASSAGE THERAPY.
DO WE HAVE ANY SAFEGUARDS AROUND THAT, OR ARE WE GOING TO KIND OF WAIT AFTER THIS IS DONE TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT ENDS UP BEING SOMETHING LIKE, LET'S SAY, THEY KIND OF MANEUVER TOWARDS CONDUCTING AN ILLEGAL OPERATION? YES, SIR.
WE CURRENTLY MAINTAIN OUR OWN DATABASE AS FAR AS WHAT LICENSES, CERTIFICATES WE ISSUE.
AND PART OF OUR LICENSING OR APPLICATION PROCESS IS REVIEWING WHO OUR CURRENT LICENSEES ARE OR WHO HAS THEM IN POSSESSION.
BUT WE ALSO IDENTIFY WHO'S BEEN REVOKED.
AND SO WE WOULD MATCH THE PERSON APPLYING TO OUR LIST OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN REVOKED AND ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION.
IF I'M SEARCHING FOR A PLACE TO GET A MASSAGE AND I WANT TO VET THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT KIND OF STUFF, IF I CALLED AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SAID, HEY, I WANT TO GO TO XYZ, DO THEY HAVE ANY HISTORY, COULD YOU SHARE THAT WITH A RESIDENT, LIKE NOT ME PERSONALLY, BUT JUST LIKE ANYBODY? I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT, BUT ANYONE THAT DOES OPERATE IN THE CITY SHOULD HAVE A STATE CAMTC CERTIFICATE.
BUT I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU TO VERIFY IF WE WOULD RELEASE THAT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT THROUGH OUR ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE VET THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE, AND WE DO INSPECTIONS ROUTINELY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
BUT I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON WHETHER WE CAN RELEASE THAT INFORMATION.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR GENERAL RESIDENTS TO KNOW BECAUSE MAYBE THEY WANT TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN A HIGH-END SPA.
MAYBE THEY INJURE THEMSELVES, WHATEVER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MS. ACOSTA.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR HARD WORK PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
I THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO KEEP CARLSBAD MASSAGE TREATMENT SAFE.
YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE DO WANT TO GO GET A MASSAGE FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT NEEDS TO BE SAFE AND IT NEEDS TO BE LEGAL, LAWFUL, AND NORMAL MASSAGE.
THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THIS WITH A FINE-TOOTH COMB AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS UP TO CODE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR.
AS SOMEONE WHO'S WORKED IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING, PREVENTING HUMAN TRAFFICKING BEFORE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WILL HELP IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ON THAT FRONT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MOTION, PLEASE.
MOVE INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
[13. ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NO. CS-515 AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 1.20 MEETINGS AND CHAPTER 2.15 BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS]
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.NEXT IS AN ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION.
THIS IS AMENDING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? PLEASE VOTE.
MOVE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
[14. OPTIONS FOR THE TERRAMAR AREA COASTAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, CIP PROJECT NO. 6054 ]
THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.ITEM 14 IS OPTIONS FOR THE TARAMAR AREA COASTAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AND FOR THE PRESENTATION WE HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER TOM FRANK.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M TOM FRANK, TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER.
TONIGHT I WILL BE PRESENTING A
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REVIEW OF INPUT WE RECEIVED ON POTENTIAL SIDEWALKS AND OTHER SUGGESTIONS IN THE TARAMAR AREA.ALONG WITH THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE ITEM, I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE A COUPLE OF POINTS.
FIRST, AS YOU HAVE HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES BEFORE, PUBLICLY VETTING A STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IS VERY CRITICAL FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT.
IT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT ON CITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY CONNECT WITH AND FEEL PASSIONATE ENOUGH TO OFFER THEIR COMMENTS.
ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO BE CREATIVE WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
STAFF ARE PUTTING FORWARD TWO OPTIONS.
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, BUT YOU ARE BY NO MEANS LIMITED TO THESE TWO OPTIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU COULD SUPPORT SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET OR SIDEWALKS FOR ONLY A PORTION OF THE PROJECT AREA, OR EVEN NO SIDEWALKS BUT PERHAPS SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AT, SAY, INTERSECTIONS.
AS THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU CAN OFFER ANY COMBINATION OR CONFIGURATION THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE OR EVEN NO CHANGES.
SO WITH THAT CONTEXT IN MIND, HERE IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.
THE PROJECT WAS INITIATED, BROUGHT FORWARD IN 2013 WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME DIRECTED STAFF TO PURSUE COMPLETE STREETS IMPROVEMENTS ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
FOLLOWING INITIAL PUBLIC OUTREACH, A PLAN WAS DEVELOPED THAT INCLUDED A ROUNDABOUT AT CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND CANNON ROAD, LANE REDUCTIONS ON CANNON ROAD WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
AND A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT CEREZO DRIVE.
THIS PROJECT WAS MOST RECENTLY IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER OF 2025.
FOLLOWING RECENT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK REGARDING ROUNDABOUTS, THE CITY COUNCIL REEVALUATED THE PROJECT SCOPE IN OCTOBER OF 2025 AND ASKED STAFF TO EXPLORE A SMALLER-SCALE PROJECT.
THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO DIRECTED STAFF TO GATHER COMMUNITY INPUT ON POTENTIAL SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA.
AFTER THAT MEETING, WE ANALYZED WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO ADD SIDEWALKS IN THIS AREA.
WE GATHERED FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS AND PRESENTED THE OPTIONS TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY COMMISSION.
AND BEFORE I GET INTO THE RESULTS OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY COMMISSION, I WANTED TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE THE POTENTIAL SIDEWALKS COULD BE ADDED, ON THE WEST SIDE BETWEEN TIERRA DEL ORO STREET AND CEREZO DRIVE, AND ALSO ON THE EAST SIDE BETWEEN CANNON ROAD AND MANZANO DRIVE AS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE YELLOW DASHED LINES ON THIS SLIDE.
THE PROJECT COULD ALSO INCLUDE REPAVING AND RESTRIPING CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND CANNON ROAD IN THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE.
CARLSBAD BOULEVARD HAS THE HIGHEST BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC VOLUMES OF ANY STREET IN THE CITY.
AS WE KNOW, THERE'S ALSO HIGH VOLUMES OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE USE THIS AREA TO PARK AND ACCESS THE COAST.
FOLLOWING CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO EXPLORE ADDING SIDEWALKS IN THIS AREA, STAFF WORKED WITH A CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP AN INITIAL CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND FURTHER STUDY POTENTIAL PARKING IMPACTS.
THIS WORK SHOWED THAT ADDING SIDEWALKS TO THIS AREA WOULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON PARKING.
CURRENTLY PEOPLE PARK ON THE DIRT SHOULDER OFF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.
IF SIDEWALKS ARE INSTALLED THAT DIRT SHOULDER WOULD BE REMOVED.
THE IMPACTS VARY DEPENDING ON WHERE SIDEWALKS ARE INSTALLED.
IF SIDEWALKS ARE INSTALLED ON THE WEST SIDE 23 SPACES PARKING SPACES WOULD BE REMOVED.
ON THE EAST SIDE, 11 SPACES WOULD BE REMOVED, AND IF SIDEWALKS WERE INSTALLED ON BOTH SIDES, 34 SPACES WOULD BE REMOVED.
AFTER REVIEWING THIS DATA, WE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO GATHER INPUT.
WE USED A VARIETY OF COMMUNICATION CHANNELS TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE INPUT OPPORTUNITY.
WE MAILED POSTCARDS TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE OR OWN PROPERTY IN TARAMAR.
WE ATTENDED THE TERRAMAR ASSOCIATION MEETING ON MARCH 12TH AND WE SHARED INFORMATION WITH THE WIDER COMMUNITY THROUGH DIGITAL CHANNELS INCLUDING THE CITY'S CITY MANAGER'S UPDATE NEWSLETTER, EMAILS, SOCIAL MEDIA, AND THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
PEOPLE WERE INVITED TO PROVIDE INPUT THREE WAYS, COMPLETING AN ONLINE INPUT FORM, SENDING AN EMAIL, AND ALSO ATTENDING THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 6TH.
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WE RECEIVED 347 RESPONSES TO THE ONLINE INPUT FORM WHICH WAS OPEN FROM MARCH 10TH TO THE 25TH AND BEFORE I SHARE WHAT WE HEARD I WANTED TO NOTE THAT THIS WAS NOT A SCIENTIFIC OR STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT SURVEY.IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE SAME WEIGHT AS AN EMAIL TO THE CITY OR PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT.
OF THE RESPONSES RECEIVED ABOUT ONE-THIRD OR 114 RESPONSES WERE FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN TARAMAR OR OWNED PROPERTY IN THAT AREA.
THE REMAINING TWO-THIRDS, OR 233 RESPONSES, WERE FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVED ELSEWHERE AND VISITED THE AREA FREQUENTLY.
ULTIMATELY, THE INPUT WAS SPLIT WITH ABOUT 52% OR 182 RESPONSES SAYING THEY DID NOT WANT SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA.
CONVERSELY, ABOUT 47% OR 163 RESPONSES SAID THEY WOULD LIKE SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA.
IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THE SPLIT WAS CONSISTENT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE RESPONDER INDICATED THEY LIVED IN TARAMAR OR ELSEWHERE.
PARKING WAS A CONCERN CITED BY...
57% OF THE PEOPLE WHO COMPLETED THE ONLINE FORM.
OF THOSE WHO THOUGHT THE CITY SHOULD INSTALL SIDEWALKS, MOST INDICATED A PREFERENCE FOR SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET.
I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE KEY THEMES WE HEARD FROM EMAILS AND IN-PERSON CONVERSATIONS AT THE TERRAMAR ASSOCIATION MEETING.
THE COMMENTS SUMMARIZED HERE RANGE FROM PAVEMENT CONDITIONS TO PEDESTRIAN VISIBILITY CONCERNS WITH EXISTING CONDITIONS.
WE PRESENTED THE RESULTS OF OUR PARKING ANALYSIS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORT TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY COMMISSION DURING THE APRIL 6TH MEETING.
AT THE MEETING, THE COMMISSIONERS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL PROCEED WITH RESURFACING AND RESTRIPING WITH NO SIDEWALKS ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
THE COMMISSION ALSO INCLUDED ITS RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER A SECONDARY PROJECT FOR THE TIRAMAR AREA AFTER THE SEASIDE TRANSITIONAL AGREEMENT IS COMPLETED.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE SEASIDE TRANSITIONAL AGREEMENT IS A FINAL NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, CABRILLO POWER LLC, AND SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC THAT INCLUDES...
THE LAND TRANSFER TO THE CITY FOR THE AREA NORTH OF CANNON ROAD AND TO THE EAST OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
THE SECONDARY PROJECT COULD ALSO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL PARKING OPPORTUNITIES ON THE NRG PROPERTY NORTH OF CANNON ROAD AND COORDINATE WITH STATE PARKS ON THE BLUFF AREA.
THAT BRINGS US TO YOUR OPTIONS FOR THIS ITEM.
I WANTED TO REITERATE THAT WHILE STAFF IS PROVIDING TWO OPTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS.
YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO BE CREATIVE WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THIS EVENING.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE ANOTHER SOLUTION THAT IS NOT LISTED HERE, THAT'S GOOD.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES, PAUL MCMANUS.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THAT ISSUE.
I LIVE AT 5171-73 CARLSBAD BOULEVARD FOR ABOUT THE PAST 35 YEARS.
SO IN REGARDS TO THE PROPOSAL OF THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS OF SIDEWALKS, BIKES, BIKE LANES, PARKING, ETC., THERE'S 10 LOTS.
WHICH I LIVE ON ONE OF THE 10 LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD THAT ARE ZONED R2, WHICH IS DUPLEX ZONING.
THESE LOTS ARE LOCATED FROM SHORE DRIVE ON THE NORTH TO SHORE DRIVE ON THE SOUTH, AND THAT'S THE ONLY 10 LOTS IN TARAMAR THAT ARE R2.
EACH OF THE 10 LOTS HAVE TWO PROPERTIES EXISTING ON EACH SIDE, RESULTING IN DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL OCCUPANCY AS COMPARED TO THE EAST SIDE, WHICH ARE ZONED R1 SINGLE FAMILY.
WITH JUST ONE OWNER OR FAMILY PER SITE.
I'VE HEARD THAT THE PROPOSAL IS INSTALLING AN EIGHT-FOOT-WIDE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, WHICH WOULD GREATLY INCREASE THE LACK OF SAFETY ISSUE RELATED TO VEHICLE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THESE PROPERTIES, THE WEST SIDE.
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SO I JUST NEED...TO SOMEHOW BE EXPLAINED HOW THIS INCREASES THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS AND THEIR BIKE TRAFFIC AFTER VEHICLES ARE HAVING TO PASS THROUGH EIGHT FEET OF SIDEWALK, OF PEDESTRIAN-LOADED SIDEWALK, POTENTIALLY, WHICH WOULD BECOME A NEW ATTRACTION RESULTING IN EVEN MORE CONGESTION THAT ALREADY IS THERE.
A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL SIDEWALK IS FOUR FEET.
THE LOCAL PEOPLE I SEE AND TALK TO WHO RUN AND WALK AND BIKE THERE NEARLY EVERY DAY KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE THE ROAD AS IT'S BEEN THERE THAT WAY FOREVER AND MADE THE CONSCIENTIOUS DECISION TO CHOOSE TO USE THIS CORRIDOR.
IN ADDITION, PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE THE CURRENT STREET PARKING, WHICH IS REALLY MY PRIMARY ISSUE HERE, THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THESE SITES, WHICH ARE USED IN FULL EVERY DAY TO ACCOMMODATE THE NECESSARY OWNER AND LONG-TERM TENANT PARKING FOR THE TENANTS OF THESE RESIDENTS, PROPOSES THE QUESTION, WHERE AM I GOING TO PARK TO GET TO MY OWN HOUSE, BLOCKS AND BLOCKS AWAY WITH MY GROCERIES OR TOOLS OR CHILDREN OR FURNITURE? PLIES, WHATEVER.
AS THERE'S 100 FEET OF CITY-OWNED RIGHT-OF-WAY ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD, THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE PARKING, SIDEWALK, BIKE LANE, DRIVING LANE, SOUTHBOUND ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD.
IF THE CITY'S PLAN IS SO DETERMINED ON INSTALLING THE SIDEWALKS EAST AND OR WEST SIDE, THEN A COMPROMISE MUST BE CONSIDERED TO THE HIGH-COSTING.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT FOR SOME RECOMMENDED PROJECT IN THE FUTURE FOR PARKING AT CABRILLO? WHAT WERE THEY RECOMMENDING? I DIDN'T SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT I DID SEE IN THE SLIDES THAT IT WAS ABOUT PARKING.
IS IT A PARKING LOT, OR WHAT WERE THEY RECOMMENDING? THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER, FOR THE QUESTION.
AND IN REGARDS TO THEIR SECONDARY RECOMMENDATION TO EXPLORE PARKING WITH STATE PARKS AND ALSO ON THE ENERGY PROPERTY, IT WAS JUST OPEN-ENDED AND THEN ALSO IN REGARDS TO JUST ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE BLUFF IN REGARDS TO PARKING AND ACCESS.
SO ONCE THAT AGREEMENT IS COMPLETE AND WE DO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, WE WOULD PURSUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO JUST EXPLORE THE GENERAL OBJECTIVE OF GETTING MORE PARKING SPACES AND THEN OTHER ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS.
AND WAS THAT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO MORE LAND? YES, FOR THE ENERGY PROPERTY, DEFINITELY.
I'M JUST THINKING FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THAT.
AND THEN FOR THIS EIGHT-FOOT SIDEWALK THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT JUST NOW, CAN WE HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHY THE EIGHT-FOOT SIDEWALK WAS PROPOSED? IT DOES SEEM TO BE QUITE A LARGE WIDTH OF SIDEWALK.
SO THIS IS A CROSS-SECTION OF THE ROAD SECTION, AND JUST TO EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT AND WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
THE OUTSIDE LINES THAT SHOW EAST RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THEN WEST RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THOSE ARE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LINES.
SO THAT'S THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WE CAN WORK WITH, THAT 100-FOOT DISTANCE.
BUT THEN LOOKING AT THE CENTER LINE, WHICH IS HALFWAY BETWEEN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LINES, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S BASICALLY, STARTING ON THE WEST SIDE, WE KEEP THE SAME NUMBER OF TRAVEL LANES.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT'S SHOWN IN THIS CROSS SECTION IS RIGHT NOW THERE'S A 12-FOOT STRIPED DOUBLE CENTER TURN LANE AND WE'RE PROPOSING A 10-FOOT AND THEN THE VEHICULAR LANE IS SHOWN AT THE CURRENT 10-FOOT WIDTH AND THEN IT'S AN 8-FOOT BIKE LANE AND THEN NEXT TO THAT WOULD BE A 8-FOOT SIDEWALK.
AND THEN THAT TRANSITIONS TO THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY, WHICH A SIGNIFICANT PORTION IS WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH IS NORMAL, BUT THAT'S THE TRANSITION TO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO THE CONCERN I HEARD WAS WHAT ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE HEAVY PEDESTRIAN USE, WHICH YOU GET ALONG THE COASTLINE, AND THEN PEOPLE INGRESSING AND EGRESSING THEIR PROPERTY.
YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, BUT THERE'S OTHER WALKWAYS.
ALONG THE COASTLINE THAT DO HAVE A SIMILAR TYPE
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OF HEAVY PEDESTRIAN USE.ONE THING THAT YOU COULD DO TO MITIGATE THAT IS YOU CAN PUT GREEN STRIPING TO SIGNIFY OR SOME SORT OF DIFFERENT COLOR CHANGE TO SIGNIFY THAT THE DRIVEWAYS ARE THERE FOR USERS TO BE CAREFUL TO HEIGHTEN THEIR ALERTNESS OF THAT DRIVEWAY.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS ANSWER THE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO WHAT'S PROPOSED.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE GREEN STRIPING BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN CONDITIONED TO UNDERSTAND GREEN STRIPING MEANS THAT'S A BIKE LANE.
SO THAT WOULD BE, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE IN THE BIKE LANE PORTION, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
AND THEN ON THE SIDEWALK, YOU COULD DO SOME OTHER COLOR OR TEXTURE IF NEED BE TO JUST TRY AND HIGHLIGHT THAT.
SO AS I UNDERSTOOD THE CONCERN, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS MORE ABOUT THE EIGHT, BUT WHY SUCH A LARGE SIDEWALK? FROM I'M TRYING TO SUM UP YOUR ANSWER IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PROPORTIONS OF THAT STREET? NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFYING QUESTION.
SO THE REASON FOR THE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK IS THAT WE BELIEVE IT'S SUCH A HEAVY PEDESTRIAN DEMAND.
YOU CAN SEE WITH THE PEDESTRIAN DEMAND TO THE NORTH FROM TAMARACK AVENUE UP TO PINE, IT'S VERY POPULAR.
AND JUST JUDGING FROM OUR CURRENT USE IN THAT AREA AND WHAT'S EXPECTED, IF YOU IMPROVE IT, IT IS GOING TO BE VERY POPULAR.
WIDE SO THAT YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.
OKAY, SO NOT AT ALL WHAT I JUST SAID, WHICH IS IT HAD TO DO WITH THE PROPORTION OF THE STREET.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE USE, AND STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING AN EIGHT-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL USE.
SO WHAT IS THE SIDEWALK FURTHER NORTH OF THAT? IT ACTUALLY VARIES.
THE NEWER SIDEWALK IS UP TO 12 FEET, BUT THE EXISTING SIDEWALK TO THE SOUTH OF TAMARACK.
IS APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET WITH THE GUARDRAIL.
WE ARE REMOVING A LARGE PORTION OF THAT GUARDRAIL TO FREE UP SOME SPACE, BUT WE GET MANY COMPLAINTS THAT THAT'S TOO NARROW, AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING IN THE BIKE LANES BECAUSE OF ITS NARROWNESS.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, OUR CITY STANDARD FOR SIDEWALK WIDTH IS SIX FEET, SO THIS IS TWO ADDITIONAL FEET.
THAT IS ALL VERY HELPFUL, BECAUSE I HEARD THE PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER SAY SOMETHING ABOUT FOUR FEET VERSUS EIGHT.
SO OUR CITY STANDARD IS SIX FEET.
AND HOW WOULD THIS CHANGE IF THIS WERE SIX FEET? WOULD WE GET ANY ADDITIONAL SPACE, PARKING SPOTS, ANYTHING? IT WOULD BE THE SAME IF IT WERE SIX OR EIGHT? IT WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY TWO FEET NARROWER FOR THE SIDEWALK WIDTH AND PEOPLE MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE.
THEY COULD USE THAT IF THEY HAVE THAT FRONTAGE AND IT'S NOT A SLOPE ISSUE, THEY COULD USE THAT SPACE FOR PARKING.
AND THEN I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT, I KNOW PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I WAS IN SUPPORT OF SIDEWALKS POTENTIALLY JUST ON THE ONE SIDE.
SO I'M STILL THINKING ONLY OF POTENTIALLY ON THE WEST SIDE OR NOT AT ALL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING AS I'M LISTENING, HEARING THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'VE RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL IN EMAIL.
THE 23 PARKING SPOTS, AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND NOT REMOVE SO MANY PARKING SPOTS.
IS 23 PARKING SPOTS THE RESULT OF JUST HAVING THIS 8-FOOT SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE? IF WE REDUCE THE WIDTH, COULD WE DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPOTS WE'D HAVE TO TAKE AWAY? CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE? SO THIS IS JUST THE GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THE REMOVAL OF THE PARKING SPOTS ASSOCIATED WITH SIDEWALKS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE THE CURRENT, IF WE DID DO SIDEWALKS ACTUALLY ON THE EAST SIDE, THE CURRENT PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE ARE 21.
AND WITH THAT PROPOSED SIDEWALK, IT WOULD BE REDUCED TO 10.
SIMILARLY ON THE WEST SIDE YOU HAVE CURRENTLY 42 PARKING SPACES AND WITH THE SIDEWALK YOU WOULD RESULT YOU BRING THAT DOWN TO 19.
SO TO YOUR QUESTION THERE IS SOUTH OF THE SOUTH SOUTHERN SHORE DRIVE THERE IS AN AREA WHERE WE DO HAVE THE WIDTH TO HAVE ON STREET PARKING.
SO THAT IS IN THE DESIGN BUT THE AREAS NORTH OF THE SOUTH SHORE DRIVE AND TO THE NORTH DO NOT HAVE THAT WIDTH.
SO THERE IS NO PARKING ALONG THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO THAT GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE, IT WOULD IMPACT THEIR PARKING
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ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE.SO JUST ON THIS SLIDE, WHERE, AND AGAIN, I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE WEST SIDE.
I KNOW THIS SLIDE SHOWS BOTH EAST AND WEST SIDE.
IF I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE WEST SIDE, THE BEACH SIDE, IF WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE WALKABILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, IT'S PART OF OUR THANK YOU.
OUTDOOR ACTIVE LIFESTYLES, WHICH IS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY VISION.
IF WE WERE TO HAVE THAT, HOW COULD WE HAVE THAT WITH KEEPING, PRESERVING AS MANY PARKING SPOTS AS POSSIBLE ON THAT WEST SIDE OF THE STREET BETWEEN TIERRA DEL ORO AND SHORE? I FEEL LIKE MAYBE I'M NOT SEEING THE RIGHT GRAPHIC OR SOMETHING.
MAYBE YOU COULD EXPLAIN WITH WORDS WHERE THE ACTUAL PARKING SPOTS ARE GETTING TAKEN AWAY.
AND IF WE WERE TO ADD IN A SIDEWALK, WE WOULD HAVE 23 FEWER.
HERE'S A PLANNED VIEW OF, YOU CAN SEE SHORE DRIVE TO THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN, AND THEN SODEZZO DRIVE TO THE RIGHT.
AND SO THIS IS THE AREA WHERE I WAS SHOWING YOU THAT THE WIDTH WILL ALLOW FOR PARKING AREA, AND THAT'S SHOWN IN THE BLUE, THE LIGHTER BLUE COLOR ON THIS SLIDE.
THE GRAPH, IT'S NOT EASY TO READ OR YOU CAN'T READ THE NUMBERS AND, OF COURSE, THE WIDTHS, BUT THAT'S WHEN I WENT TO THE CROSS-SECTION TO SHOW WHAT THE TYPICAL CROSS-SECTION LOOKS LIKE.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF WE ARE DOING A WALKWAY, IT DOES TAKE THAT SPACE THAT I SHOWED.
I GUESS I COULD SHOW THAT WHAT EXISTS TODAY WITH THAT PICTURE SHOWING WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THE DIRT.
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WIDTH, SO IF YOU'RE INSTALLING A SIDEWALK, IT IS TAKING AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING.
SO THAT'S WHY WHEN WE WERE DOING THE OVERALL DESIGN FOR THIS AREA, WE WERE LOOKING FOR PARKING OPPORTUNITIES TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH OF THIS CORE AREA WHERE WE COULDN'T HAVE PARKING.
BUT SOMETIMES THAT IS THE SACRIFICE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE WIDTH, YOU EITHER HAVE TO CHOOSE A SIDEWALK OR PARKING.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE WIDTH FOR BOTH, UNFORTUNATELY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY ONE MORE JUST CLARIFYING QUESTION ON THIS SLIDE.
THE TURQUOISE PORTION VERSUS THE ORANGE PORTION.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE ONE MORE TIME WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO THE TURQUOISE IS THE PARKING AREA AND THEN THE BROWN OR TANNISH COLOR IS THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK AREA.
OKAY, SO THIS WOULD BE WITH KEEPING 19 PARKING SPOTS THEN.
AND THE PARKING SPOTS THAT WOULD GO AWAY, THOSE ARE THE ONES? THE PARKING SPOTS THAT WOULD GO AWAY ARE MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF THIS.
SO IT'S TO THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN.
THIS IS THE SOUTHERLY SHORE DRIVE.
SO IT WOULD BE TO THE NORTH OF THAT SHORE DRIVE TOWARDS CANNON ROAD.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THAT COMPROMISE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE IT WAS SOME KIND OF A HYBRID WHERE WE COULD STILL ACHIEVE THAT WALKABILITY, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF THE RESIDENTS WHO DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING IN THIS AREA.
SO STILL LOOKING FOR THAT PERFECT SOLUTION.
AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO WROTE IN AND CONTACTED US AND TO THE SPEAKER AS WELL TODAY.
JUST A FEW DIFFERENT QUESTIONS AND THEN DEFINITELY HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND ALSO WOULD LOVE IF THERE'S A HYBRID OPTION LIKE MY COLLEAGUE SHARED.
BUT YEAH, SO THIS WHOLE PROCESS STARTED BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE SHARED IN TERMS OF TIMELINE BACK IN 2013.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE FORM AND THE DATA COLLECTION, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IT'S NOT SCIENTIFIC, BUT WE HAD ABOUT 347 RESPONDENTS.
DO WE HAPPEN TO HAVE IT DRILLED DOWN WITH THE ANSWERS BASED ON, LIKE, WHO ANSWERED AND WHY AND WHAT THE QUALITATIVE INFORMATION WAS IN TERMS OF AS TO WHY THEY SAID NO SIDEWALKS VERSUS YES SIDEWALKS, OR DO WE NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION? WE DO HAVE COMMENTS THAT THEY SUBMITTED IN ADDITION TO THE QUESTIONS IN THE POLL IN REGARDS TO IF THEY WANTED SIDEWALKS AND IF THEY WANTED SIDEWALKS ON THE EAST OR THE WEST OR BOTH SIDES.
AND I PUT TO YOU THE KEY THEMES WHICH WE HEARD IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS IN PERSON AND ONLINE.
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SO I CAN PULL UP THAT SLIDE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.YEAH, I THINK IT WAS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEBODY WAS SAYING.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT A SIDEWALK.
I HEARD YOU MENTION THE PARKING PIECE, BUT I WONDER IF THERE WERE OTHER COMPONENTS THAT FOLKS WERE BRINGING UP WITH REGARDS TO NOT HAVING SIDEWALKS OR WANTING SIDEWALKS.
I KNOW IT'S OBVIOUSLY SAFETY AS WELL WITH REGARDS TO THE WANTING SIDEWALKS, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES THE PARKING, OR WAS IT THE PARKING MOSTLY? WELL, 57% OF THE RESPONDENTS DID SAY PARKING WAS A CONCERN.
BUT IN ADDITION, WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS LIST WITH THE ADDITIONAL TYPES OF THEMES WHICH WE WERE HEARING.
SO PAVEMENT CONDITIONS, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT SAID, HEY, THE PAVEMENT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN NEED OF SOME MAINTENANCE.
AND SO WE AGREED, AND THAT IS PLANNED IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT IS OBVIOUSLY THE RECOMMENDATION FOR OPTION ONE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HEARD MAINTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTERISTICS, INCLUDING VEGETATION, A PREFERENCE FOR A NATURAL PATHWAY INSTEAD OF A PAVED SIDEWALK.
AGAIN, PARKING CONCERNS IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
LACK OF PEDESTRIANS ON THE EAST SIDE, A NEED FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FOR PEDESTRIANS.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO.
AND THEN SAFETY CONCERNS, THAT'S RAZOR DRIVE INTERSECTION.
AND THEN PRIVACY CONCERNS AND PEDESTRIAN VISIBILITY CONCERNS WITH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
WE HEARD THAT COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO, LIKE, IF WE CLEARED THE VEGETATION AND THEN THE SIDEWALKS ON THE WEST SIDE, PEOPLE LOOKING DOWN TO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE PRIVACY ISSUES.
IS THERE ANY SO I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES OR WAYS THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT.
OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH COMFORTABLY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
SO JUST CURIOUS WITH REGARDS TO THE STRIPING, I KNOW I ASKED THIS DURING BRIEFING, JUST SIMILAR QUESTION AROUND THE HARDEST PART, AND I CAN GET INTO THAT WITH MY COMMENTS.
THE HARDEST PART, AT LEAST I'LL JUST ALLUDE TO IT, IS WHEN I'VE WALKED THROUGH, I WALK THROUGH THERE PRETTY FREQUENTLY.
THE HARDEST PART IS YOU'RE USUALLY BATTLING FOR SPACE.
WITH A CYCLIST IF YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN OR VICE VERSA AND SO CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY WAY THERE CAN BE A BIFURCATION FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO WALK SAFELY IN A LANE AND THEN BIKE SAFELY IN A LANE IN THAT YOU KNOW SPACE UM IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD DESIGNATE THAT SO THAT YOU KNOW UH IT WOULD BE CLEARLY DELINEATED THAT'S A QUESTION THAT YEAH THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER UM SO HERE'S HERE'S WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
AND WHAT I SHARED IS THAT THAT DUAL CENTER TURN LANE RIGHT NOW IS 12 FEET, AND THAT'S NOT WITH OUR CURRENT STRIPING STANDARDS.
THAT WOULD BE A 10-FOOT TRAVEL LANE, WHICH MATCHES ACTUALLY THE 10-FOOT TRAVEL LANES THAT ARE THE VEHICULAR LANES OUT THERE.
SO WHEN WE RESTRIPE THIS, WHEN WE PAVE IT AND RESTRIPE IT, AND WE MAKE THAT 10-FOOT DUAL CENTER TURN LANE, THAT WILL PROVIDE TWO ADDITIONAL FEET ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH THEN ENABLES US TO HAVE THAT SPACE FOR THIS.
AND SO WITH THAT, WE'LL LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME STRIPING IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE TO HELP WITH THAT DELINEATION, WHERE YOU SEE IN SOME OTHER AREAS, IF YOU CAN ENVISION, AND I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE FOR IT, BUT WHERE WE DID A LANE REDUCTION ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD SOUTH OF SOLOMAR DRIVE GOING DOWN TO ISLAND WAY.
IT'S CALLED A DIP IN THE ROAD SOUTH OF LIKE TURNAROUNDS IN THAT AREA WE RESTRIPED THAT AREA THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE TRAVEL LANE FOR A BIKE LANE.
IT'S ACTUALLY A BUFFERED BIKE LANE, AND THEN THERE'S A MEDIAN STRIPING, BUT THAT MEDIAN STRIPING IS REALLY USED BY A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS, AND THE PEDESTRIANS GO BOTH WITH FLOW AND COUNTER FLOW, SO THAT MEDIAN STRIPING WORKS.
SO WE COULD SEE IF THERE'S SOME DELINEATION, SOME STRIPING THAT COULD HELP WITH THE SEPARATION ISSUE, WHICH YOU WERE REFERRING TO.
I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE MORE, JUST ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
IN TERMS OF THE SEASIDE TRANSITION AGREEMENT, BASED ON WHAT WAS SHARED IN OUR STAFF REPORT AND WHAT YOU SHARED, IF WE WERE TO WAIT TO TALK ABOUT, OR NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT, BUT START CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS, IT WOULD BE FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS FROM LAST YEAR THAT WE WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO START CONSIDERING.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE ACCURATE TIME FRAME FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO MORE DETAILS OF THAT AGREEMENT, I'D PROBABLY CALL UP ONE OF MY...
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE TIMELINE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2013.
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AND THEN IF WE TACK ON FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS FROM LAST YEAR, THAT'S 2031.SO JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT PIECE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR MY QUESTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL START WITH THE COMMENTS.
BY TAKING THE TWO FEET OUT OF THE MIDDLE SECTION AND ADDING IT TO THE WEST CURB, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A PRETTY FAIR COMPROMISE TO BEGIN WITH TO ALLOW MORE SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES AND TO KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT SAFER.
I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR KEEPING THE ROAD THE WAY IT IS WITH MINOR PAINTING CHANGES.
I THINK I MADE THE COMMENT LAST TIME, IT'S ONE OF THE FEW PLACES LEFT IN CARLSBAD THAT'S KIND OF BEACHY.
AND WE SHOULD LEAVE IT THAT WAY.
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE BEFORE ANY OF US WERE BORN, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL LEAVE IT.
BUT WE ARE MAKING A COMPROMISE.
WE ARE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HEARD THROUGH THE QUESTIONS OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS BY GIVING TWO EXTRA FEET ON THE WEST SIDE.
LATER DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE DECIDE THAT THAT DIDN'T WORK, WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT SIDEWALKS.
BUT IF WE JUST JUMP STRAIGHT INTO SIDEWALKS, THEN THE SIDEWALKS ARE THERE.
SOMETHING WE COULD JUST ADD LATER.
SO I'M GOING TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE FROM OUR TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION AND SUPPORT LEAVING THE ROADWAY WITH NO SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE, BUT CHANGING THE STRIPING AND MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THAT.
MS. BOTT-PATEL, YOUR COMMENTS.
YOU KNOW, I'LL DEFINITELY START WITH MY COMMENTS, BUT I MAY LOOK TO EITHER OUR CITY MANAGER OR MR. FRANK TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL HYBRID OPTION LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
OTHERWISE, IT WILL BE HARD FOR ME TO JUST WHOLLY AGREE ON OPTION ONE.
BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHARE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF MY THOUGHTS ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK I CALL MR. PATNOE VERY OFTEN.
ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY THROUGHOUT OUR CITY AND AND SO YEAH I THINK YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FOR ME AS WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS AND I THINK THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS I WAS PREGNANT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I HAVE A SIX-MONTH-OLD SO AND OF COURSE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD SO IT'S PERSONAL TO ME IN TERMS OF JUST LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN HAVE FOLKS REALLY ENJOY THAT SPACE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE ABILITY TO ENJOY THAT SPACE.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MY FAMILY AND I, WE ARE VERY ACTIVE PEOPLE.
WE WALK FROM WHERE WE ARE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE VILLAGE, WHICH IS ABOUT SIX MILES.
IT'S REALLY FUN TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
I THINK THE PART THAT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING THAT WE'VE WITNESSED AND WE'VE SEEN IS THAT FROM LA COSTA AVENUE ALL THE WAY TO CANNON, THERE IS ZERO SIDEWALK.
IF YOU WATCHED AND TALKED TO ME BACK IN 2018 ALL THE WAY UP TO NOW, AND I THINK EVERYONE ON STAFF KNOWS THIS, I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT I DECIDED, OKAY, I WOKE UP ONE MORNING AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS IT.
IT'S MORE OF LIKE A, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST ME, I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT FROM SO MANY PEOPLE.
THIS STRETCH IS OBVIOUSLY A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT PART.
HAVE HEARD THAT PART AND I EMPATHIZE WITH EVERYONE IN TERMS OF THE PARKING PIECE, WHICH IS WHY I'M WANTING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THOSE OPTIONS.
I DO KNOW THAT IT ALSO DRAWS SO MANY PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S FOLKS FROM WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY OR FOLKS FROM OUTSIDE AS WELL.
AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS INTERESTING TO ME IS WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CORRIDOR, WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS FOR EVERYONE IN THIS CITY AND THAT PART IS WHERE IT KIND OF GETS ME WHERE I'M LIKE OKAY WELL WHAT CAN WE DO TO FIND THAT ACCESSIBILITY PIECE BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OF IS FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY WHAT WE YOU KNOW WHAT WE CALL HOME AND SO AS I MENTIONED YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY I TALKED ABOUT MY KIDS AND THAT PART IS WHAT REALLY FOR ME IS A STRESSOR IS I KNOW THAT THERE ARE KIDS UTILIZING THAT SPACE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF FOLKS ARE GOING THROUGH CARS ARE MOVING FAST.
THEY'RE MUCH FASTER THAN THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.
AND THERE HAVE BEEN MOMENTS WHERE I'VE HAD TO PULL MY KIDS IN BECAUSE THERE'S A CAR THAT'S COMING TOO CLOSE OR THERE'S A CYCLIST THAT'S GOING TOO FAST.
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MULTIPLE TIMES.UNFORTUNATELY, FOLKS WILL START YELLING AT US BECAUSE WE'RE PEDESTRIANS.
WE SHOULDN'T BE IN THE CYCLING LANE.
THERE'S A CAR THAT ALMOST NEAR MISSES A CYCLIST.
AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I HEAR FROM WALKERS, CYCLISTS, DRIVERS THAT USE THAT CORRIDOR EVERY DAY, AND THAT...
THAT MESSAGE TO ME ACROSS THE BOARD, AT LEAST FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE UTILIZING THAT CORRIDOR, IS THAT FOLKS DO GET CROWDED OUT, PEOPLE ARE GETTING YELLED AT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD FROM BUSINESS OWNERS, THEIR EMPLOYEES, ACTUALLY FROM THOSE THAT ARE BRINGING OUR, YOU KNOW, TOURISTS IN AS WELL, THAT THEY END UP HEARING SIMILAR CONCERNS.
IT'S ALSO FOLKS THAT ARE VISITING HERE THAT ARE SHARING THOSE SAME CONCERNS.
SO THAT'S THE PART THAT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT I DO THINK THAT EVERYBODY DESERVES TO MOVE THROUGH THIS SPACE COMFORTABLY.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT LOVE THE BEACH AND RURAL CHARACTER OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE WANT TO PRESERVE THAT FEEL, AND IT'S A LEGITIMATE AND DEEPLY HELD VALUE, OBVIOUSLY, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT IT.
I THINK THAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE FIND THAT IN-BETWEEN COMPROMISE, BECAUSE IN MY MIND, A SIDEWALK DOESN'T CHANGE THAT FEEL.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S AN OPINION AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE HAS THEIR OPINION ON THAT PARTICULAR REGARD.
THE PARKING PIECE I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE HAVING SO MANY ISSUES AROUND PARKING AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARK NEAR THEIR HOMES AND WHAT THEY'VE CLEARLY PAID FOR.
AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO CLOSE IT OUT BY SAYING THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR AND IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO TO MAYBE COME BACK TO THAT ONCE THE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN SHARED, IS AROUND HOW WE CAN MAYBE FIND SOME SORT OF WAY TO COMPROMISE.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE TWO FEET, TWO FEET, I MEAN, WITH A STROLLER, AND LIKE CHILDREN, AND I MEAN, THERE'S, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT.
IT WOULD JUST MEAN THAT THERE WOULD BE CHALLENGES FOR FOLKS WITH FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THAT AGAIN.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, WE SEE LIMITED AMOUNT OF FAMILIES GOING THROUGH THAT WAY BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THEY HAVE SIMILAR CONCERNS THAT I DO SOMETIMES.
SO ANYWAYS, I WILL STOP THERE.
I HAVE MORE TO SHARE, BUT I DO WANT TO HEAR WHERE THAT HYBRID COMPROMISE IS IF THERE IS ONE.
OTHERWISE, IT WILL BE HARD FOR ME TO JUST SUPPORT OPTION ONE.
I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THE HARD WORK THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS OVER MANY YEARS.
YOU KNOW, 2013 WAS THE FIRST TIME WE SAW THIS.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT TIMELINE BECAUSE SO MUCH TIME HAS PASSED AND THE WORLD HAS CHANGED MANY TIMES SINCE 2013.
HERE WE ARE IN 2026 STILL TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THIS AREA AND WITH THE ROAD THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF STUCK IN LIMBO FOR A LONG TIME.
I DON'T THINK THAT JUST KEEPING SOMETHING AS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN BECAUSE IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THINGS WITH ANYTHING IN OUR CITY.
I THINK WE NEED TO ADJUST TO THE TIMES AND ENSURE THAT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS BENEFITING BY WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
I KNOW THAT WE PUT OUT A COMMUNITY SURVEY.
I DIDN'T HEAR ANY DATA ABOUT THE RESPONDENTS.
I UNDERSTAND IT WASN'T A SURVEY THAT HAD A LOT OF QUALIFIERS OF WHO COULD RESPOND, AND IT WAS MORE QUALITATIVE.
I KNOW ALSO THAT WE DID A LARGE PROCESS FOR COMMUNITY VISIONING A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND WE GOT MANY, MANY MORE RESPONDENTS.
MANY THOUSANDS OF FOLKS RESPONDED TO THOSE.
AND IN THOSE RESPONSES, WE CAME UP WITH A SET OF COMMUNITY VALUES AND A COMMUNITY VISION.
AND AMONG THOSE, WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC PHRASES THAT RELATE TO WALKABILITY.
TO OPEN SPACE IN THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENT WITH ACCESS TO RECREATION AND ACTIVE, HEALTHY LIFESTYLES.
WE HAVE, I'M LOOKING, THIS IS ALL ON OUR WEBSITE UNDER COMMUNITY VISION, AND WE TALK ABOUT WALKING, BIKING, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND CONNECTIVITY.
INCREASED TRAVEL OPTIONS THROUGH ENHANCED WALKING, BICYCLING, AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. ENHANCED MOBILITY THROUGH INCREASED CONNECTIVITY AND INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT.
AND I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB WITH A LOT OF THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND YET WE'RE TASKED WITH KEEPING UP WITH THE TIMES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
NOT HAVING SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET ALONG OUR PRECIOUS CALIFORNIA COAST IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH
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THIS COMMUNITY VISION AND THE COMMUNITY VALUES THAT MANY THOUSANDS OF CARLSBADIANS HAVE SAID THAT THEY...SO I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING.
IT AS IT IS BECAUSE IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN THAT WAY.
SO HAVING SOME COMPROMISE IS SOMETHING I THINK OUR RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR.
AND I WOULD SAY FOR SAFETY REASONS, FOR THE VALUES THAT THEY'VE EXPRESSED FOR THE ACTIVE, HEALTHY LIFESTYLES AND THE CONNECTIVITY AND THAT ENHANCED WALKING, WHICH THEY SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN THE COMMUNITY VISION AND VALUES, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A SIDEWALK AND AT LEAST ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.
REMAIN INTERESTED IN THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET.
I UNDERSTAND WHY THE EAST SIDE DOESN'T WORK.
I AM OPEN TO HAVING A REDUCED WIDTH.
I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THE REDUCED WIDTH, BUT I AM ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN FINDING PARKING, PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTS AND PARKING FOR THE VISITORS BECAUSE WE NEED PARKING.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, STATE LEGISLATION THAT'S COME DOWN IS SAYING THAT WE DON'T NEED PARKING.
PEOPLE WILL USE OTHER, YOU KNOW.
MASS TRANSIT OR BIKES OR OTHER WAYS OF GETTING AROUND AND THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK WE KNOW THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK SO AND WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET SO I'M INTERESTED IN FINDING MORE PARKING BUT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF SIDEWALKS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET THANK YOU MISS BURKEHOLDER THANK YOU THIS DISTRICT IS JUST SOUTH OF DISTRICT ONE WHERE THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT IS PARKING, WHETHER THAT BE IN THE VILLAGE OR ON CARLSBAD BOULEVARD WITH THE OVERSIZED CAMPERS THERE BEING THERE FOR TOO LONG OR THE OVERSIZED WIDTHS OF THE PARKING PLACES OR PARKING, PARKING, PARKING.
THAT IS A BIG COMPLAINT THAT I RECEIVE AND I AM NOT INCLINED TO SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT TAKES AWAY PARKING IN THAT AREA OR FOR THAT MATTER HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS.
SO I'M VERY ANXIOUS TO HEAR WHAT MY COLLEAGUE IN THAT, BECAUSE THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT NO PARKING WILL THEN SPILL ON INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THAT AREA, WHICH I DO REPRESENT AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, THE SEASIDE TRANSACTION AGREEMENT, WHAT WASN'T THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, CONCEPTUALLY CAME INTO EFFECT IN 2013 WITH THIS, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, THE SEASIDE TRANSACTION AGREEMENT ISN'T SETTLED, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE PREMATURE FOR US TO HAVE A PREDETERMINED OUTCOME FOR THAT LAND WHEN WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO END UP.
SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I LISTEN TO MR. BRIGGS' COMMENTS ABOUT SOME OF THE PLANNING UPDATES.
YOU KNOW, WE DO ENJOY THE BEACHY COMMUNITY FEEL THERE.
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE OF THAT VIBE.
AND THEN MR. MCMANUS BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE PARKING.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT I'VE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT WALKING OR RUNNING OR RIDING A BIKE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, I GUESS I'M JUST LUCKY BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE AT LEAST ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HAS, WHICH IS...
WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE COMFORTABLE WHEN THEY'RE OUT WITH THEIR FAMILIES, YOUNG FAMILIES OR WHATEVER, VISITORS TO THE CITY.
AND BOTH COUPLE REFLECTED HOW WHAT IS BENEFICIAL HERE SHOULD BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF CARLSBAD.
AND FROM WHERE I'M SITTING, IF YOU TAKE AWAY PARKING, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO I GUESS I'M REFLECTING ON COMPROMISE AS WELL.
HOWEVER, IT'S GOING TO BE A HARD SELL FOR ME TO LOSE PARKING PLACES.
SO I'M MORE INCLINED TO SUPPORT OPTION ONE BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THE AREA DOES NEED UPDATING AND RESURFACING FOR SURE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I OWNED A PROPERTY RIGHT THERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF CARLSBAD BOULEVARD AND AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK WE'RE GOING IN, AND THAT'S MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE, I MEAN, AND THEIR SIDEWALKS ARE CLOSE TO THEIR HOMES.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A LONG DRIVEWAY PROCEEDING UP A HILL OR EVEN IT'S LIKE A COOKIE CUTTER HOUSE.
ALL OF THOSE ARE CRAFTSMAN HOMES.
THEY'RE VERY INDIVIDUAL AND UNIQUE.
SO I DON'T THINK IT MATCHES THE AREA.
AND I SORT OF AGREE WITH THE MAYOR ON THAT.
NOT THAT WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES, BUT THAT WE SHOULD MAKE CHANGES THAT ARE REFLECTED OF THE WAY THE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY LIVE THERE.
EVERY DAY WANT TO SEE REFLECTED.
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FROM MY COLLEAGUES, AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS.THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, TOM.
AND DEFINITELY TOOK THIS AREA, THE SENSE OF SERIOUSNESS, JUST BEING IN MY DISTRICT, IN MY OWN LITTLE COASTAL SLIVER, I GET.
I WANT TO FIRST THANK OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND AMY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR NOT ONLY CONDUCTING THE SURVEY, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE HAD A THOSE IN TERROR.
I THINK IT WAS AN EFFECTIVE SURVEY TO BE QUITE HONEST, TO HAVE AN OPEN ENDED SURVEY, TO HAVE NOT ONLY THE BULK OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT TIMES TWO OF THAT OF NON-RESIDENTS TO APPLY INPUT IN HERE MEANT SOMETHING.
SO I DO WEIGH IT IN THAT FASHION.
I HAD SPENT A GOOD COURSE OF THE PAST FEW MONTHS WALKING MY DOG IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO ASKING A BUNCH OF THE SURFERS AND THOSE THAT ARE UTILIZING THIS AREA AND JUST GOT THEIR OVERALL COMMENTS.
THEY THOUGHT I WAS STRANGE BECAUSE THEY HAD NO IDEA WHY I WAS EVEN BRINGING THIS UP UNTIL I SAID WHO I WAS.
BUT I ASKED TWO QUESTIONS WITH THE SURFERS.
I DID ASK THEM IF THERE ARE NO AVAILABLE PARKING IN THIS SPOT, WOULD YOU CONTINUE TO SURF IN THIS SPOT? AND I THINK EVERY LOCAL SURFER KNOWS THAT THEY FOUND THEIR BREAK AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE IT.
SO THEY ALL OVERWHELMINGLY SAID YES.
THEN I SAID, IF THERE'S NOT A PARKING SPOT FOR YOU, THEN WHERE DO YOU PARK AND WHERE WOULD YOU PARK? AND THEY ALL POINTED ACROSS THE STREET INTO THE COMMUNITIES.
I DID REALIZE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT IN THAT COMMUNITY.
ONE THING THAT KIND OF SURPRISED ME WHEN I WAS TALKING TO OTHER FOLKS THAT WERE USING IT IS THAT WHEN YOU SHOWED THE PICTURE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE SLIDE FIVE, TOM, IT ALSO SHOWED TWO RUNNERS ON THERE.
AND I SPOKE WITH A LOT OF THE RUNNERS AND I SAID, WHAT IF WE WERE TO DO CERTAIN OPTIONS? AND THEY SAID, I WOULDN'T BE RUNNING ON THE SIDEWALK.
I WOULD HOP OFF AND BE ON THE ASPHALT.
AND THEN I STARTED LOOKING AT THIS AREA AND REALIZED JUST HOW MANY RUNNERS THERE WERE AND STARTED ANNOYING THEM BY ASKING THEM THE SAME QUESTIONS.
AND IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS A PRETTY...
THERE WAS QUITE AN OUTCRY ABOUT FOLKS THAT WANTED TO USE THE ASPHALT AND THE DIRT IN ORDER TO RUN, AND THEY CHOSE THIS AREA TO RUN BECAUSE OF THAT, AND THEY WOULDN'T RUN IN THE BORDER WALK AREAS BY THE VILLAGE OR ANYWHERE ELSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY CEMENTED DOWN JUST BECAUSE OF IMPACT AND INJURY.
SO I TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, AND THEN OVERALL I JUST LOOKED BACK AT THE MACRO SETTING OF THIS.
I THINK OUR CITY IS KNOWN OF BEING VERY INTENTIONAL, VERY PRAGMATIC WITH OUR PLANNING.
IT'S A CULTURE THAT WE'VE HAD.
WE'VE HAD OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
WE'RE KNOWN FOR THIS THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
AND THAT BEING SAID, I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SEASIDE TRANSACTION AGREEMENT AND THE WHOLE OF THIS AREA, IT MEANS THAT WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THIS WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE BEFORE WE PROCEED.
SO THAT BEING SAID, WITH SOME RESERVATIONS OF ALSO KNOWING THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE.
SHOULD BE OPPORTUNITIES OF MAKING THINGS MORE ACCESSIBLE IN THE CITY.
I WILL SECOND THE MOTION OF THE MAYOR.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU MADE A MOTION FOR NUMBER ONE.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION RIGHT NOW OF THE RECOMMENDED ACTION OF NUMBER ONE, OF ADOPTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH FINAL DESIGN AND SO FORTH.
THANK YOU AND THANKS ALL FOR FOR WEIGHING IN.
I AM STILL LOOKING FOR THAT COMPROMISE AND I'M NOT HEARING IT IN THE MOTION.
THE MOTION IS LITERALLY NO, NO SIDEWALKS.
SO I REALLY HAVE BEEN THINKING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SIDEWALKS, BUT PROVIDE PARKING, LIKE FURTHER EXPLORE PROVIDING PARKING AND WHETHER THAT'S AT THE SEASIDE AREA OR SOME OTHER PLACE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PROVIDE THE PARKING.
SO I CANNOT SUPPORT THE MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE SOME KIND OF A COMPROMISE, AND THIS IS NO COMPROMISE AT ALL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I ALSO WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT A COMPROMISED OPTION.
THE OTHER PIECE IS JUST BECAUSE LITERALLY FOR THE PAST, AT THE VERY LEAST, EIGHT YEARS, IF NOT MY ENTIRE LIFE THAT I'VE LIVED HERE, I HAVE HEARD.
FEEDBACK AROUND THIS, NOT ONLY FROM RESIDENTS, BUT OTHERS.
AND I DO THINK THAT WE ARE SHORTCHANGING OURSELVES BY NOT HAVING THIS COMPROMISED CONVERSATION.
WE ARE THEN GOING TO PUSH THIS FURTHER INTO THE FUTURE.
LIKE I SAID, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN A CONVERSATION FROM 2013 UP UNTIL WHAT NOW, 2026.
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AND IF WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE AGREEMENT THAT PUSHES THAT EVEN FURTHER FROM 2025 INTO 2031 AND ONWARDS.THAT HOPEFULLY WHEN I'M A GRANDPARENT, I'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A SIDEWALK FROM SOUTH CARLSBAD ALL THE WAY UP.
I REALLY HOPE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE, BUT I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY TO OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
AND JUST TO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMPROMISE, I THINK THAT THE TWO EXTRA FEET IS GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JOGGING, THE BICYCLISTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THIS CAN BE REVISITED ONCE WE DO HAVE THE PROPERTY SWAP ALL SETTLED.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[15. WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN PHASE 1 REPORT ]
NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 15, CITY MANAGER, PLEASE.ITEM 15 IS THE WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN PHASE 1 REPORT.
SHORTLY AFTER LAST YEAR'S PACIFIC PALISADES FIRE IN LOS ANGELES, YOUR CITY COUNCIL TOOK A SERIES OF ACTIONS AUTHORIZING ENHANCED INVESTMENTS.
TO BETTER PREPARE CARLSBAD FOR A FUTURE WILDFIRE THAT WILL ONE DAY BE AT OUR FRONT DOORSTEP.
OVER THE PAST YEAR, THE CITY HAS INVESTED OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN ADDITIONAL BRUSH MANAGEMENT EFFORTS IN OUR CITY'S PRESERVES AND IN CITY-OWNED URBAN FORESTS.
THE COUNCIL ALSO AUTHORIZED A COMPREHENSIVE WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN FOR CARLSBAD TO ENSURE THAT OUR WILDFIRE SAFETY EFFORTS ALIGN WITH APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS ALONG WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS.
THE REPORT PROVIDES A COMMUNITY-WIDE WILDFIRE RISK ANALYSIS THAT WILL GUIDE FUTURE DECISION-MAKING ON HOW BEST TO REDUCE WILDFIRE RISK.
IT IDENTIFIES A RANGE OF MITIGATION OPTIONS, INCLUDING VEGETATION MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, AND OUTLINES THE PROCESS NECESSARY TO MEET APPLICABLE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS AS THOSE MEASURES ARE EVALUATED AND IMPLEMENTED.
AS SOMEBODY WHO ONCE LOST MY HOME TO WILDFIRE, I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT PROTECTING LIFE AND PROPERTY FROM FIRE SHOULD COME BEFORE PROTECTING TREES OR BUSHES.
HOWEVER, WITH TONIGHT'S REPORT AND APPROVAL OF AN ACTION PLAN, THIS CITY WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO BEGIN ENHANCED EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH BOTH THE GOALS OF FIRE PROTECTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.
TO BEGIN THE PRESENTATION AND TO INTRODUCE OUR PANEL, I'D LIKE TO TURN OVER TO FIRE CHIEF MICHAEL CALDERWOOD.
WAS I THE ONLY ONE WHO, WHEN THIS WAS INTRODUCED, THE FIRE ENGINE WENT BY? GOOD JOB, CHIEF.
THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MIKE CALDERWOOD, CARLSBAD'S FIRE CHIEF.
I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY THANKING THE CITY MANAGER, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, AND OUR CONSULTANT TEAM WHO'S HERE TONIGHT, DUDEC, AN ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FIRM FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO ADDRESSING WILDFIRE RISK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEIR SUPPORT ENABLED THE COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE OF THE CITY'S WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY RISK ANALYSIS.
AND HAS LED TO THE INITIATION OF PHASE TWO, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN.
OVER THE PAST YEAR, THE CITY HAS INVESTED APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION IN WILDFIRE PREPAREDNESS AND MITIGATION EFFORTS.
THOSE INVESTMENTS REFLECT OUR SHARED COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORHOODS, NATURAL RESOURCES, AND COMMUNITY RESILIENCE.
ONE OF THE KEY FINDINGS FROM PHASE ONE IS THAT WILDFIRE RISK IS EVOLVING.
ADVANCES IN FIRE SCIENCE, CHANGING WEATHER PATTERNS, AND UPDATED MODELING HAVE IMPROVED OUR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WILDFIRE CAN IMPACT COMMUNITIES.
THE ANALYSIS CONFIRMED THAT WILDFIRE RISK IS NOT LIMITED TO JUST OPEN SPACE AND THAT A COMMUNITY-WIDE APPROACH TO RESILIENCE IS NECESSARY.
THE COMMUNITY RISK ANALYSIS ALSO IDENTIFIED AREAS WHERE WILDFIRE RISK IS ELEVATED DUE TO A COMBINATION OF VEGETATION, TOPOGRAPHY, WEATHER PATTERNS, AND PROXIMITY TO DEVELOPMENT.
IT HIGHLIGHTED OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE DEFENSIBLE SPACE AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES IN CERTAIN AREAS WHILE CONTINUING TO BALANCE THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
THE ASSESSMENT FOUND THAT CARLSBAD HAS GENERALLY DONE A GOOD JOB.
MEETING ITS ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP COMMITMENTS.
HOWEVER, IT HAS ALSO IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES TO FURTHER STRENGTHEN WILDFIRE RESILIENCE AND REDUCE RISK IN SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THE CHALLENGE IS THAT MANY LOCATIONS WHERE MITIGATION MAY BE BENEFICIAL ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.
AS A RESULT, WILDFIRE MITIGATION OFTEN INVOLVES MORE THAN VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, IT CAN REQUIRE ENVIRONMENTAL
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REVIEW, PERMITTING, AND COORDINATION WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES.HOWEVER, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CONCLUSIONS FROM PHASE 1 IS THAT THERE IS A PATH FORWARD.
THE PURPOSE OF PHASE 2 IS TO BRING TOGETHER FIRE PROFESSIONALS, ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERTS, PLANNERS, LEGAL ADVISORS, REGULATORY AGENCIES, LAND MANAGERS, AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS TO IDENTIFY PRACTICAL SCIENCE-BASED SOLUTIONS THAT IMPROVE WILDFIRE RESILIENCE WHILE CONTINUING TO MEET ENVIRONMENTAL OBLIGATIONS.
ULTIMATELY, THIS EFFORT IS NOT ABOUT CHOOSING BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.
I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO FIRE MARSHAL DARCY DAVIDSON, WHO WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE ASSESSMENT FINDINGS AND THE WORK COMPLETED TO DATE.
SHE IS JOINED THIS EVENING BY ROSEANNE HUMPHREY, THE CITY'S HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN COORDINATOR, AND JENNIFER TRUE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THEY REPRESENT THE THREE DISCIPLINES CRITICAL TO MOVING THIS EFFORT FORWARD, FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY, ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, ALONG WITH LEGAL AND REGULATORY COMPLIANCE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
FOR THE RECORD, I'M DARCY DAVIDSON, FIRE MARSHAL FOR CARLSBAD.
AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE FIRE CHIEF, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WILDFIRE IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES FACING OUR COMMUNITY.
UNDERSTANDING THAT RISK AND TAKING PROACTIVE STEPS TO ADDRESS IT ARE CRITICAL TO PROTECTING CARLSBAD.
OUR COMMUNITY FACES AN INCREASINGLY COMPLEX WILDFIRE RISK ENVIRONMENT THAT REQUIRES A MODERN, SCIENCE-BASED APPROACH TO TO WILDFIRE MITIGATION.
WE MAY SPEND A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME ON THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT, BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.
THE DECISIONS WE MAKE WILL HELP PROTECT LIVES, PROPERTY, AND THE LONG-TERM RESILIENCE OF OUR CITY AS WILDFIRE RISK CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
SPECIFICALLY, TONIGHT WE WILL DISCUSS STATE AND LOCAL WILDFIRE RISK, ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN.
WE WILL DISCUSS THE TWO-PHASE WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN.
INCLUDING REVIEWING OF THE KEY FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE WILDFIRE HAZARD AND RISK ASSESSMENT REPORT, AND WE'LL PREVIEW PHASE TWO.
WE'LL END WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROPOSED ACTIONS.
THE CATASTROPHIC FIRES IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY IN JANUARY 2025 HEIGHTENED PUBLIC AWARENESS ACROSS CALIFORNIA OF THE GROWING WILDFIRE THREAT TO URBAN COMMUNITIES.
REINFORCE THE IMPORTANCE OF PROACTIVE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT AS A KEY FACTOR IN REDUCING WILDFIRE INTENSITY, LIMITING FIRE SPREAD, AND IMPROVING COMMUNITY RESILIENCE.
CARLSBAD HAS A HISTORY OF SIGNIFICANT WILDFIRES, INCLUDING THE 1996 HARMONY GROVE FIRE AND THE 2014 POINSETTIA FIRE, BOTH OF WHICH BURNED EXTENSIVE ACREAGE AND CAUSED SUBSTANTIAL PROPERTY DAMAGE AND STRUCTURE LOSS.
FOR UNDERSTANDING THE REALISTIC WILDFIRE RISK IN CARLSBAD.
NOW I WILL HIGHLIGHT ACTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS TAKEN TO ADDRESS THIS CONCERN, INCLUDING RECENT INVESTMENTS, INTERDEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION, AND CURRENT VEGETATION MANAGEMENT AND FUELS REDUCTION.
CITY COUNCIL TOOK QUICK ACTION AND AUTHORIZED AN INITIAL $850,000 MID-YEAR BUDGET APPROPRIATION IN FEBRUARY 2025.
SUPPORT IMMEDIATE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT ACTION CITYWIDE INCLUDING ALLOCATIONS TO PARKS AND RECREATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.
FUNDS ALLOCATED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WERE TO DEVELOP A WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN.
OF THIS ALLOCATION ROUGHLY HALF HAS BEEN SPENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WILDFIRE HAZARD AND RISK ASSESSMENT AND THE REMAINING FUNDS ARE BUDGETED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN IN PHASE TWO.
AN ADDITIONAL ONE-TIME ALLOCATION OF $550,000 WAS MADE IN FISCAL YEAR 25-26 TO CONTINUE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT EFFORTS.
THESE ALLOCATIONS WERE ONE-TIME AND NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET FOR FY27.
THE FOLLOWING SLIDES SHOW EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS THAT WERE CONDUCTED USING THESE FUNDS.
SUBSTANTIAL FUEL REDUCTION WAS PERFORMED IN HAAS GROVE.
THE CLEAR SKYLINE IN THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT INDICATES THE LEVEL OF FUEL REDUCTION.
AS SEEN IN THESE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS OF POLICE AND FIRE HEADQUARTERS, SIGNIFICANT FUEL REDUCTION WAS PERFORMED TO REDUCE THE RISK OF A WILDFIRE IMPACTING THE CRITICAL EMERGENCY OPERATIONS THAT OCCUR IN THIS BUILDING, INCLUDING 911 DISPATCH AND THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
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ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATED THE REMOVAL OF INVASIVE SPECIES IN UNMANAGED PRESERVES, INCLUDING 70 PALM TREES, AS SEEN IN THESE PHOTOGRAPHS.NOW WE'LL REVIEW THE COMPREHENSIVE WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN.
THE WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN IS A PROACTIVE, TWO-PHASE PROCESS DESIGNED TO GUIDE CITY POLICY, INVESTMENT, AND RISK REDUCTION STRATEGIES.
PHASE 1, WHICH IS COMPLETED AND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, CONSISTS OF A COMPREHENSIVE WILDFIRE HAZARD AND RISK ASSESSMENT THAT WAS PREPARED BY DUDEC, A NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FIRM.
THIS REPORT PRESENTS CITYWIDE EVALUATION OF WILDFIRE HAZARDS, RISKS, AND VULNERABILITY.
IT ESTABLISHES THE TECHNICAL FOUNDATION FOR FUTURE PLANNING EFFORTS.
I WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF PHASE 1 FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN JUST A MINUTE.
DURING PHASE 2, THE DATA AND RECOMMENDATIONS IDENTIFIED DURING PHASE 1 WILL BE REVIEWED, PRIORITIZED, AND USED TO IDENTIFY WILDFIRE MITIGATION PROJECTS.
THE OUTCOME OF PHASE 2 IS A COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN, OR CWPP.
TO IN LATER DETAIL THIS EVENING.
SO THE GOAL OF PHASE ONE WAS TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE WILDFIRE HAZARD AND RISK ASSESSMENT REPORT TO PROVIDE DATA-DRIVEN UNDERSTANDING OF A WILDFIRE HAZARD AND RISK IN CARLSBAD AND TO INFORM FUTURE DECISION MAKING, TO PRIORITIZE MITIGATION EFFORTS, AND IDENTIFY GAPS IN THE CITY'S EXISTING WILDFIRE PROTECTION FRAMEWORK.
SUDEC CONDUCTED A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT THAT INCLUDED A REVIEW OF THE FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONES, LOCAL FIRE HISTORY, EVACUATION ROUTES, AS WELL AS EXTENSIVE FIELD INSPECTIONS TO EVALUATE VEGETATION CONDITIONS AND DEFENSIBLE SPACE.
THIS INFORMATION WAS THEN USED TO PERFORM ADVANCED WILDFIRE BEHAVIOR MODELING AND IDENTIFY AREAS OF GREATEST CONCERN.
WE'LL NOW TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT SOME OF THESE COMPONENTS.
WITH THE STATE'S 2025 UPDATE TO THE FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE MAP, THE AREA DESIGNATED WITHIN CARLSBAD HAS EXPANDED SIGNIFICANTLY AS SHOWN IN THE SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON.
IN 2007, THE STATE MAP ONLY MAPPED THE VERY HIGH FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE, WHICH IS WHY ONLY THE RED AREA APPEARS ON THE MAP.
AS PART OF THE 2025 UPDATE, THE STATE ALSO MAPPED HIGH AND MODERATE FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONES WHICH ARE SHOWN IN ORANGE AND YELLOW.
THE UPDATED MAP REFLECTS ADVANCES IN WILDFIRE SCIENCE, INCLUDING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WILDFIRE BEHAVIOR AND EMBER-DRIVEN FIRE SPREAD IN URBAN ENVIRONMENTS.
MOST NOTABLY, AREAS CLASSIFIED AS VERY HIGH EXPANDED SUBSTANTIALLY AND NOW ENCOMPASS APPROXIMATELY ONE-THIRD OF THE CITY, AN INCREASE OF 169% COMPARED TO THE 2007 MAP.
FROM AN IMPLEMENTATION STANDPOINT, THE 2025 MAP UPDATE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THE NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO WILDFIRE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS, RESULTING IN EXPANDED REGULATORY, INSPECTION, AND ENFORCEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE CITY.
FIELD ASSESSMENTS CONDUCTED BY DUDEC DOCUMENTED CONSIDERABLE VEGETATION GROWTH AND FUEL ACCUMULATION THROUGHOUT MANY OF THE CITY'S OPEN SPACE AREAS.
MUCH OF CARLSBAD'S COASTAL SAGE SCRUB AND CHAPARRAL VEGETATION HAS MATURED OVER SEVERAL DECADES WITH LIMITED NATURAL DISTURBANCE OR FUEL REDUCTION ACTIVITIES.
AS VEGETATION MATURES, DEAD AND DRY MATERIAL ACCUMULATES, INCREASING THE AVAILABLE FUEL LOAD AND CREATING CONDITIONS THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO MORE INTENSE WILDFIRE BEHAVIOR.
THE PHOTOS SHOWN HERE ILLUSTRATE HOW QUICKLY VEGETATION CAN GROW.
BOTH IMAGES DEPICT THE HILLSIDE WEST OF...
THE TOP PHOTO WAS TAKEN JUST AFTER THE POINSETTIA FIRE, WHILE THE BOTTOM PHOTO WAS TAKEN APPROXIMATELY 10 YEARS LATER.
THIS COMPARISON DEMONSTRATES THE SIGNIFICANT VEGETATION REGROWTH THAT CAN OCCUR OVER A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
SIMILAR PATTERNS OF VEGETATION GROWTH AND FUEL ACCUMULATION CAN BE OBSERVED THROUGHOUT CARLSBAD'S OPEN SPACE AREAS.
USING THIS INFORMATION, DUDEC PERFORMED ADVANCED FIRE BEHAVIOR MODELING.
THE MODELING INCORPORATED SITE-SPECIFIC INPUTS SUCH AS VEGETATION TYPE AND CONTINUITY, TOPOGRAPHY, WEATHER PATTERNS, AND POTENTIAL IGNITION LOCATIONS TO BETTER CHARACTERIZE LOCAL FIRE
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BEHAVIOR AND RISK.THE ANALYSIS IDENTIFIED THE POTENTIAL FOR RAPID FIRE SPREAD, EXTREME FLAME LENGTHS, AND SIGNIFICANT EMBER EXPOSURE IN PORTIONS OF THE CITY UNDER WILDFIRE CONDITIONS.
WHILE THE STATE MAP PROVIDES AN IMPORTANT REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, IT DOES NOT ALWAYS CAPTURE THE LOCAL CONDITIONS THAT CAN INFLUENCE WILDFIRE BEHAVIOR AND RISK AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL.
AS SHOWN ON THE STATE MAP ON THE LEFT, THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS ADJACENT TO OPEN SPACE VEGETATION, BUT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE STATE'S MAPPED FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONES.
THIS VEGETATION CAN CREATE CONTINUOUS FUEL PATHWAY THAT, GIVEN A WIND-DRIVEN WILDFIRE EVENT, COULD FACILITATE FIRE SPREAD.
THROUGH OPEN SPACE AND INTO ADJACENT DEVELOPED AREAS.
THIS HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS OF STATEWIDE MAPPING AND UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF CONDUCTING LOCAL SITE-SPECIFIC ANALYSIS.
FOR THIS REASON, THE CITY RETAINED DUDECT TO CONDUCT DETAILED FIRE BEHAVIOR MODELING ILLUSTRATED BY THE BLUE AREAS ON THE SLIDE TO THE RIGHT.
DUDECT'S ANALYSIS FOUND THAT WILDFIRE RISK IS NOT LIMITED TO ONLY HOMES LOCATED DIRECTLY ALONG THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE.
IN SOME AREAS, INTERCONNECTED OPEN SPACE CORRIDORS CAN SERVE AS FUEL PATHWAYS, ALLOWING WILDFIRE AND EMBER-DRIVEN IGNITIONS TO EXTEND FARTHER INTO DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE ASSESSMENT REPORT PRODUCED SEVERAL IMPORTANT FINDINGS.
KEY FINDING NUMBER ONE, CARLSBAD HAS AN INCREASED WILDFIRE RISK AND EXPOSURE.
RIDGETOP DEVELOPMENT IS COMMON THROUGHOUT CARLSBAD, PLACING HOMES AND CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ADJACENT TO STEEP VEGETATIVE SLOPES WHERE UPSLOPE FIRE RUNS ARE LIKELY AND DEFENSIBLE SPACE CAN BE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN.
DEFENSIBLE SPACE IS THE AREA AROUND A STRUCTURE WHERE VEGETATION OR OTHER FUELS ARE MANAGED TO REDUCE OR SLOW WILDFIRE SPREAD AND TO IMPROVE FIREFIGHTING OPERATIONS AND STRUCTURE PROTECTION.
DURING WIND-DRIVEN FIRE EVENTS, THE CITY'S TERRAIN WHICH IS CHARACTERIZED BY STEEP CANYONS, MATURE SHRUBLANDS, AND EXTENSIVE OPEN SPACE PRESERVES, CREATES AN INHERENT WILDFIRE VULNERABILITY.
THIS VULNERABILITY IS FURTHER AMPLIFIED WITHIN THE WILDLAND-URBAN INTERFACE.
KEY FINDING NUMBER TWO, DEFENSIBLE SPACE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED.
DEFENSIBLE SPACE CONDITIONS VARY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WITH THE GREATEST CONCERNS OCCURRING ALONG THE WILDLAND-URBAN INTERFACE.
WHERE DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTED VEGETATION MEET.
THE ASSESSMENT FOUND THAT CURRENT VEGETATION MANAGEMENT EFFORTS ARE INSUFFICIENT AND NOT KEEPING PACE WITH THE CITY'S GROWING WILDFIRE RISK.
WHILE THE CITY'S EXISTING PROGRAMS DO PROVIDE IMPORTANT BENEFITS, THEY ARE NOT SUFFICIENT IN THEIR OWN TO EFFECTIVELY REDUCE WILDFIRE HAZARDS OR PREVENT STRUCTURAL LOSSES DURING A MAJOR WILDFIRE EVENT.
THESE FINDINGS HIGHLIGHT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL MITIGATION MEASURES THAT COMPLEMENT EXISTING EFFORTS AND ADDRESS WILDFIRE RISK ON A BROADER CITY-WIDE SCALE.
KEY FINDING NUMBER THREE, THERE ARE REGULATORY CONSTRAINTS TO VEGETATION MANAGEMENT.
SO THE ASSESSMENT CLEARLY IDENTIFIED AREAS WHERE VEGETATION-RELATED HAZARDS CONTRIBUTE TO ELEVATED FIRE RISK.
THIS NATURALLY RAISES THE QUESTION, NOW THAT THESE HAZARDS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH MITIGATION? WHILE IDENTIFYING WILDFIRE RISK IS RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD, IMPLEMENTING SOLUTIONS IS MORE COMPLEX.
ANY VEGETATION MANAGEMENT STRATEGY MUST BALANCE PUBLIC SAFETY, REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.
THE PRIMARY CHALLENGE IS NOT DETERMINING WHAT ACTIONS WOULD REDUCE RISK, BUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THOSE ACTIONS WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED REGULATORY FRAMEWORK.
A PRIMARY CONSTRAINT ON VEGETATION MANAGEMENT IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS THAT GOVERN SENSITIVE HABITATS ACROSS A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE CITY'S OPEN SPACE SYSTEM.
AT THIS POINT, I WILL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY JENNIFER TRUE, WHO WILL EXPLAIN THE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS.
THANK YOU, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS JENNIFER TRUE, AND I AM THE SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
AS YOU HAVE HEARD, THE WILDFIRE ASSESSMENT IDENTIFIED AREAS WHERE ADDITIONAL VEGETATION MANAGEMENT AND FUEL REDUCTION MAY HELP REDUCE WILDFIRE RISK.
HOWEVER, MANY OF THESE AREAS ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS THAT PROTECT SENSITIVE HABITAT AND WILDLIFE.
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IN A REGIONAL EFFORT TO PROTECT MULTIPLE SPECIES THROUGH ITS HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN, OR HMP.THE HMP ALONG WITH THE ORDINANCES AGREEMENTS AND PLANS THAT SUPPORT IT IT IS HOW THE CITY COMPLIES WITH TWO KEY ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS, THE FEDERAL ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT AND THE CALIFORNIA ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT.
BOTH LAWS AIM TO PREVENT THE EXTINCTION OF NATIVE PLANTS AND ANIMALS.
THEY APPLY TO PUBLIC AGENCIES AND PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS ALIKE.
AT THEIR CORE IS A FUNDAMENTAL PROHIBITION.
NO ONE MAY HARM OR HARASS AN ANIMAL OR SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGE THE HABITAT IT RELIES ON FOR BREEDING, FEEDING.
ANY PROHIBITED ACT UNDER THESE LAWS IS CALLED A TAKE.
A TAKE CAN HAPPEN THROUGH ROUTINE CITY ACTIVITIES SUCH AS GRADING LAND, BUILDING ROADS, OR AS WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, CLEARING VEGETATION FOR FUEL MANAGEMENT.
BY MAINTAINING THE HMP AND FOLLOWING ITS REQUIREMENTS, THE CITY AVOIDS A LENGTHY PERMITTING PROCESS EVERY TIME A PROJECT MIGHT RESULT IN A TAKE.
THE TRADE-OFF IS THAT THE CITY MUST ACCEPT STRICT LIMITS ON WHAT ACTIVITIES CAN OCCUR WITHIN DESIGNATED PRESERVE AREAS.
WHEN IT COMES TO FUEL REDUCTION, SPECIFICALLY, THE HMP DRAWS AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION BASED ON WHEN AN AREA WAS DEVELOPED.
FOR AREAS DEVELOPED AFTER THE HMP WAS CREATED, FUEL REDUCTION ACTIVITIES MUST STAY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT DEVELOPED PROJECT AND CANNOT ENCROACH INTO THE PRESERVE.
FOR AREAS DEVELOPED BEFORE THE HMP WAS CREATED, FUEL REDUCTION ACTIVITIES MAY BE ABLE TO ENCROACH IN THE PRESERVE, BUT ONLY IF THE ENCROACHMENT IS UNAVOIDABLE FOR SAFETY REASONS AND ANY HABITAT IMPACTS ARE APPROPRIATELY MITIGATED.
THE HMP ALSO DOES ALLOW FOR AMENDMENTS WHEN NEEDED.
HOW AN AMENDMENT IS HANDLED DEPENDS LARGELY ON THE SCOPE OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
MINOR AMENDMENTS CAN BE HANDLED RELATIVELY QUICKLY THROUGH NOTICE AND CONSULTATION WITH STATE AND FEDERAL WILDLIFE AGENCIES, TWO OF THE PARTIES TO THE HMP WITH THE CITY.
MAJOR AMENDMENTS INVOLVE A LONGER PROCESS, INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, AND MAY REQUIRE UPDATES TO RELATED PLANS AND DOCUMENTS AS WELL.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK GOVERNING FUEL MODIFICATION IN CARLSBAD IS COMPLEX.
AND HMP INTERACT IN WAYS THAT REQUIRE CAREFUL ANALYSIS.
ANY PROPOSED FOR FUEL MODIFICATION WOULD NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE LOCATION, WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED, THE NATURE AND EXTENT OF THE HABITAT PRESENT, AND WHETHER ANY ENCROACHMENT INTO THE PRESERVE CAN BE AVOIDED OR PROPERLY MITIGATED.
THERE IS NO SIMPLE ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL APPROACH OR ANSWERS HERE.
I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO OUR IN-HOUSE HMP EXPERT, ROSEANNE HUMPHREY, WHO WILL PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THE HMP AND HOW IT OPERATES IN PRACTICE.
MY NAME IS ROSEANNE HUMPHREY, SENIOR PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT AND ADMINISTRATOR OF THE HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN.
AS MS. TRUE DESCRIBED, SENSITIVE HABITATS AND SPECIES ARE PROTECTED UNDER A VARIETY OF STANDARDS.
STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
THE HMP WAS PREPARED BY THE CITY IN COOPERATION WITH THE WILDLIFE AGENCIES AND ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2004.
THE HMP DESCRIBES HOW DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER ACTIVITIES IN THE CITY WILL COMPLY WITH STATE AND FEDERAL ENDANGERED SPECIES LAWS AND IT REQUIRES THE CITY TO ESTABLISH A CITYWIDE PRESERVE SYSTEM TO PROTECT 31 SENSITIVE SPECIES AND 24 HABITAT TYPES.
THROUGH PERMANENT LAND CONSERVATION.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT SENSITIVE HABITAT IS PROTECTED, WHETHER IT'S INSIDE OR OUTSIDE OF AN HMP PRESERVE.
THIS BRINGS US TO THE ISSUE OF CONSTRAINTS TO FUTURE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT.
THE PHASE 1 REPORT IDENTIFIES AREAS ALONG THE WILDLAND-URBAN EDGE WHERE DEFENSIBLE SPACE BUFFERS SHOULD BE INCREASED TO ADEQUATELY MITIGATE EXPOSURE.
MANY OF THESE AREAS ARE ADJACENT TO HMP PRESERVES AND OTHER SENSITIVE HABITAT.
THE CITY'S ABILITY TO EXPAND DEFENSIBLE SPACE IN THOSE AREAS IS DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THESE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.
IF THE CITY WERE TO PROPOSE EXPANDING DEFENSIBLE SPACE INTO PROTECTED HABITAT, SUCH
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VEGETATION MANAGEMENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A REGULATED IMPACT BECAUSE IT CHANGES THE HABITATS ECOLOGY.IN WAYS THAT COULD HARM THE SPECIES THAT THE HMP IS DESIGNATED TO PROTECT.
AN IMPACT IS DEFINED AS ANYTHING THAT MAY CAUSE DIRECT OR INDIRECT HARM TO PROTECTED SPECIES, INCLUDING THE REMOVAL OF OR CHANGES TO THE NATIVE VEGETATION.
UNDER THE HMP, IMPACTS TO SENSITIVE HABITAT GENERALLY REQUIRE PERMITS AND MITIGATION, INCLUDING HABITAT REPLACEMENT.
FOR EVERY ACRE IMPACTED, THE HABITAT MUST BE REPLACED BY 0.5 ACRE TO UP TO 4 ACRES.
DEPENDING ON THE HABITAT TYPE.
AS DESCRIBED IN THE PHASE 1 REPORT, CLIMATE CHANGE, INCREASED DEVELOPMENT DENSITY, AND DECADES OF RESTRICTED VEGETATION MANAGEMENT HAVE CREATED CONDITIONS THAT DIFFER SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THOSE THAT EXISTED WHEN THE HMP WAS ADOPTED IN 2004.
TYPICALLY, IMPACTS ARE ADDRESSED ON A PROPERTY-BY-PROPERTY BASIS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
CITYWIDE PROGRAM SUCH AS THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS IN THE PHASE 1 REPORT, IS A DIFFERENT UNDERTAKING AND MAY REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE HMP.
THAT WOULD MEAN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL WILDLIFE AGENCIES TO CRAFT AN APPROACH THAT ENHANCES BOTH PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE CONSERVATION GOALS THAT THE HMP WAS BUILT TO PROTECT.
I WILL NOW TURN IT BACK OVER TO FIRE MARSHAL DAVIDSON.
AS WE JUST HEARD, THESE REGULATORY CONSTRAINTS LIMIT THE RANGE OF AVAILABLE RISK REDUCTION TOOLS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED, PARTICULARLY IN LOCATIONS WHERE DENSE NATIVE SHRUBLANDS OCCUR IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO STRUCTURES.
WHILE THE HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN ITSELF DOES NOT INHERENTLY MAKE THE CITY LESS SAFE, IMPLEMENTING WILDFIRE MITIGATION ACTIVITIES WITHIN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS OFTEN REQUIRES ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, BIOLOGICAL ANALYSIS, PERMITTING, AND A COORDINATION AMONG MULTIPLE REGULATORY AGENCIES.
AS A RESULT, WILDFIRE MITIGATION IN CARLSBAD REQUIRES BALANCING ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT LIFE, PROPERTY, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND EVACUATION ROUTES FROM CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE.
WHILE THOSE REGULATORY CONSTRAINTS ARE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS, THEY DO NOT CHANGE THE NEED TO CONTINUE REDUCING WILDFIRE RISK THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
THESE COMPLEXITIES WILL BE WORKED THROUGH DURING PHASE TWO OF THIS PROCESS.
HOWEVER, PHASE ONE ALSO IDENTIFIED SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO ADVANCE BOTH PRIORITIES AND STRENGTHEN OUR WILDFIRE MITIGATION EFFORTS.
I WILL NOW HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT.
I'LL TOUCH ON FOUR MAJOR CATEGORIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
MANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOCUS ON STRENGTHENING VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, WHICH CAN BE GROUPED INTO FIVE KEY ACTIONS.
THE FIRST IS TO INCREASE AND PRIORITIZE STRATEGIC FUEL REDUCTION CITYWIDE.
NUMBER TWO, EXPAND DEFENSIBLE SPACE IN AREAS WHERE MODELED FUEL FIRE BEHAVIOR INDICATES CURRENT LEVELS OF MITIGATION MAY BE INSUFFICIENT.
ESTABLISH A DEFENSIBLE SPACE INSPECTION AND COMPLIANCE PROGRAM.
ADDRESS REGULATORY AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS IN HABITAT AREAS.
UPDATE THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE MANUAL AND DEVELOP FIRE MANAGEMENT PLANS DURING THE CWPP PROCESS.
RECOMMENDATIONS ALSO INCLUDE IMPROVING ACCESS AND EVACUATION READINESS.
THROUGH STRATEGIC ROADSIDE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT THAT CAN HELP REDUCE IGNITION POTENTIAL AND IMPROVE EMERGENCY ACCESS DURING WILDFIRE EVENTS.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PREPAREDNESS REMAIN ANOTHER IMPORTANT FOCUS AREA.
RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE EXPANDING WILDFIRE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH EFFORTS AND INCREASING PARTICIPATION IN FIREWISE USA PROGRAMS. FINALLY, THE REPORT IDENTIFIES A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STAFFING RESOURCES.
THE RECENT EXPANSION OF THE FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE MAP WILL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES SUBJECT TO WILDFIRE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS RESULTING IN ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD RELATED TO INSPECTIONS, DEFENSIBLE SPACE COMPLIANCE, PUBLIC EDUCATION, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, FUEL TREATMENT, PLANNING, AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CWPP.
TOGETHER THESE RECOMMENDATIONS
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PROVIDE A ROADMAP FOR REDUCING WILDFIRE RISK WHILE WORKING WITHIN THE REGULATORY AND ENVIRONMENTAL FRAMEWORK WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS EVENING.TO SUMMARIZE PHASE ONE, IT HELPED US BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE WILDFIRE RISK EXISTS, EVALUATE CURRENT VEGETATION MANAGEMENT AND DEFENSIBLE SPACE CONDITIONS, AND ESTABLISH A DATA-DRIVEN FOUNDATION FOR FUTURE ACTION.
THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION OF PHASE 1 AND THE WILDFIRE HAZARD AND RISK ASSESSMENT.
PHASE 2 BUILDS ON THAT FOUNDATION BY PRIORITIZING PROJECTS, EVALUATING MITIGATION STRATEGIES, ENGAGING STAKEHOLDERS, AND DEVELOPING A COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN THAT WILL GUIDE FUTURE WILDFIRE RESILIENCE EFFORTS THROUGHOUT CARLSBAD.
PHASE 2 WILL FOCUS ON DEVELOPING IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES WHILE ADDRESSING REGULATORY AND OPERATIONAL CONSTRAINTS TO SUPPORT LONG-TERM WILDFIRE RISK REDUCTION.
THE PRIMARY OUTCOME OF PHASE 2 WILL BE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CWPP, WHICH WILL BE INFORMED BY EXTENSIVE COLLABORATION WITH RESIDENTS, STAKEHOLDERS, REGULATORY AGENCIES, LAND MANAGERS, AND CITY DEPARTMENTS.
THE CWPP WILL REFINE AND PRIORITIZE PHASE I FINDINGS, EVALUATE POTENTIAL MITIGATION PROJECTS, AND ESTABLISH A COMMUNITY-INFORMED ROADMAP FOR REDUCING WILDFIRE RISK.
WHILE THE CWPP WILL IDENTIFY AND PRIORITIZE FEASIBLE MITIGATION OPTIONS, IT IS A PLANNING DOCUMENT.
ANY PROJECT DESIGN, FUNDING, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, PERMITTING, AND IMPLEMENTATION WILL OCCUR AFTERWARD.
ONCE COMPLETED, THE CWPP MAY ALSO SUPPORT FUTURE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY.
THROUGH THIS PROCESS, CARLSBAD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE ITS WILDFIRE RESILIENCE STRATEGY IN A WAY THAT ENHANCES PUBLIC SAFETY WHILE PRESERVING THE COMMUNITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL VALUES AND OPEN SPACE SYSTEM.
DEVELOPMENT OF THE CWPP IS EXPECTED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 12 MONTHS WHILE ONGOING WILDFIRE MITIGATION EFFORTS CONTINUE.
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO COMPLETE PHASE 2, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SEVERAL MEASURES THAT THE CITY IS ACTIVELY IMPLEMENTING.
SOME OF THE RISK REDUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY INCLUDE CONDUCTING THE ANNUAL HAZARD REDUCTION PROGRAM, PERFORMING ANNUAL BRUSH CLEARANCE ON CITY-OWNED VACANT LOTS.
SUPPORTING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS WITH MAINTAINING THEIR PERMITTED FUEL MODIFICATION ZONES.
ASSISTING COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SEEKING FIREWISE USA RECOGNITION.
PERFORMING COURTESY DEFENSIBLE SPACE INSPECTIONS FOR RESIDENTS.
UTILIZING THE ALERT CALIFORNIA CAMERA DURING EMERGENCIES.
AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, THE CITY HAS UNDERTAKEN FUELS REDUCTION PROJECTS ON CITY PROPERTY AND URBAN FORESTS.
AND UNMANAGED PRESERVES AND WE'RE HOLDING COMMUNITY EVENTS AND BEING AN EDUCATIONAL RESOURCE TO PROMOTE WILDFIRE PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITIES THE CITY HAS MADE PROGRESS IN REDUCING WILDFIRE RISK THROUGH THESE EFFORTS CONTINUED AND EXPANDED EFFORTS WILL FURTHER STRENGTHEN THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REDUCE WILDFIRE RISK ENHANCE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE AND PUBLIC SAFETY PROPOSED ACTIONS AND NEXT STEPS WHILE PHASE TWO AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CWPP IS ONGOING, THE CITY MAY CONSIDER PURSUING ADDITIONAL RISK REDUCTION MEASURES IN THE MEANTIME AS FUNDING AND STAFFING ALLOW.
POSSIBLE MEASURES TO CONSIDER ARE EXPANDING VEGETATION MANAGEMENT FOR CITY-OWNED PARCELS IN HIGH-RISK AREAS WHERE ALLOWABLE UNDER EXISTING ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS, REQUIRING ANNUAL INSPECTION OF FUEL MODIFICATION ZONES, ENHANCING THE DEFENSIBLE SPACE, HOME EVALUATION PROGRAM TO PROVIDE HOMEOWNERS WITH CUSTOMIZED REPORTS, PRIORITIZED RECOMMENDATIONS, AND STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND OUTREACH EFFORTS.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER, IMPLEMENTING THE CITY'S WILDFIRE MITIGATION INITIATIVES, COUPLED WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE STATE'S FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONES, WILL SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE OPERATIONAL DEMANDS ON EXISTING STAFF.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE CONVERSION IN.
OF AN EXISTING PART-TIME FIRE PREVENTION SPECIALIST POSITION INTO A FULL-TIME ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL POSITION.
THIS IS A SUPERVISORY ROLE THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE FIRE MARSHAL AND IS NOT A PART OF THE DEPARTMENT'S MANAGEMENT TEAM.
THE ASSOCIATED COSTS ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.
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THE ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL WOULD SERVE MANY IMPORTANT DUTIES, SUCH AS WILDFIRE MITIGATION AND IMPLEMENTATION EFFORTS, INCLUDING VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW INSPECTION PROGRAMS THE EXPANSION OF PUBLIC OUTREACH AND EDUCATION INITIATIVES, ASSISTANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CWPP, ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH EVOLVING STATE REGULATIONS AND LEGISLATION, AND THE SUPERVISION OF STAFF.THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN PHASE ONE REPORT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INITIATE PHASE TWO.
INCLUDING DEVELOPING A COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN, AND TO INCLUDE FUNDING FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND FOR THE CONVERSION OF A PART-TIME FIRE PREVENTION SPECIALIST TO FULL-TIME ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL POSITION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 26-27 BUDGET TO BE CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION ON JUNE 16, 2026.
IN CONCLUSION, TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION HIGHLIGHTED BOTH THE REALITY THANK YOU.
CARLSBAD'S INCREASING WILDFIRE RISK AND THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH REDUCING THAT RISK.
THE ASSESSMENT CONFIRMS THAT ADDITIONAL MITIGATION IS NEEDED, IT IDENTIFIES MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE COMMUNITY PROTECTION, AND RECOGNIZES THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND REGULATORY CONSIDERATIONS THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED ALONG THE WAY.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT DEMONSTRATES THAT A PATH FORWARD EXISTS.
PHASE TWO WILL FOCUS ON TRANSLATING THESE FINDINGS INTO ACTIONABLE SOLUTIONS, DEVELOPING STRATEGIES THAT WILL ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY WHILE PRESERVING THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES THAT ARE INTEGRAL TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THE WORK AHEAD WILL REQUIRE COLLABORATION, COMMITMENT, AND THOUGHTFUL PLANNING, BUT BY WORKING TOGETHER WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE LASTING IMPROVEMENTS THAT STRENGTHENS CARLSBAD'S RESISTANCE TO WILDFIRE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
AND WITH THAT, WE'RE OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.
QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? MR. SHIN.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
JUST DEALING WITH THE RANCHO CARLSBAD RESIDENTS, THERE'S FRUSTRATION ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO IN THAT AREA TOWARDS THE LAGOON.
THE HMP, DOES IT CURRENTLY CREATE? LIKE THINGS THAT HAMPER US ARE THERE SET POLICIES THAT HAMPER US AND THEN IT SUPERSEDES STATE GUIDANCE ON OUR ABILITY TO TO MANAGE THE THE INTERFACE BETWEEN YOU KNOW BASICALLY THE WII I'LL SAY IF YOU GUYS KNOW THE ACRONYM THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN I WOULD SAY THAT THE HMP DOES NOT SUPERSEDE STATE LAW IN FACT THE HMP IS IMPLEMENTING STATE AND FEDERAL LAW WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT YOUR QUESTION IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED IN THAT REALLY IT'S THE LAWYER'S RESPONSE.
SO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED? WHERE ARE YOU PROPOSING IT? AND WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS? AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT PHASE TWO IS LOOKING TO DO IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE PROPOSED WAYS FORWARD AND THEN HOW TO GET THERE.
SO YES, THERE IS A REGULATORY SCHEME THAT'S IN FRONT OF US THAT HAVE MAYBE SOME HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH.
BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT PHASE TWO IS LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH.
PHASE ONE IS KIND OF IDENTIFIED SOME OF THIS.
YES PHASE ONE HAS BROUGHT SOME OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS TO LIGHT AND IT HAS DONE THE EVALUATION OF THE RISK AND ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE HANDLED DURING PHASE TWO PARTLY WITH THE INNER DEPARTMENT CITY STAFF AND ALSO OUTREACH TO THE STAKEHOLDERS THE REGULATORY AGENCIES AND LAND MANAGERS THANK YOU IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL, LONG, AND VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S SO MUCH WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THIS.
THE REPORT FROM DUDEK THAT IS DATED MAY 2026, WHICH JUST CAME OUT FRESH AND NEW, WHAT PERIOD OF TIME DID DUDEK STUDY AND EVALUATE AND PREPARE THIS REPORT? DO YOU KNOW? I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I ALSO HAVE DUDEK HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TO RECALL THE EXACT DATES.
SO THE PROCESS BEGAN WITH SIGNING THE AGREEMENTS.
I DON'T HAVE THE DATES IN FRONT OF ME.
WE SIGNED THE AGREEMENT, I THINK, JULY OF LAST YEAR.
THEY STARTED FIELD WORK IN AUGUST, AND THEN FOLLOW-UP EVALUATIONS WERE DONE IN FEBRUARY.
AND WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEED TO DO MORE, AND THE COUNCIL, AS WAS MENTIONED, AND AS IT SAYS
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IN OUR STAFF REPORT, DID ALREADY KIND OF CONTRIBUTE SOME MORE.TO THIS EFFORT WITH FUNDING, WITH PEOPLE, WITH PROGRAMS IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, ENVIRONMENT DEPARTMENT.
WERE THOSE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT DURING THIS PROCESS? BECAUSE THAT WAS FAIRLY RECENT THAT WE DID THAT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE REPORT, TOO.
CAN YOU REFRAME YOUR QUESTION? YES.
DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT DUDEC WAS WORKING ON THE REPORT, DID THEY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ADDITIONAL STAFF AND ADDITIONAL EFFORTS THAT THE CITY PUT FORWARD? OKAY.
SO THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL STAFF.
THE FUNDS THAT WERE GIVEN TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE USED HALF OF THEM AND IT WAS FOR DUDEC, AND THEN THE OTHER HALF IS FOR PHASE II.
DURING THE PRESENTATION, YOU SAW SOME SLIDES, FOR EXAMPLE, OF HOSP GROVE, AND THE FIRE MARSHAL IDENTIFIED THE IMPROVED SKYLINE THAT YOU CAN SEE.
THAT IS SOME OF THE WORK THAT TOOK PLACE WITH THE FUNDS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE MID-YEAR BUDGET.
AND ANOTHER ALLOCATION IN THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU MENTIONED ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.
THE SLIDE THAT YOU SAW WITH THE PALM TREE REDUCTION, THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF SOME THINGS THAT WERE DONE WITH THAT FUND.
AND IT DOES SEEM THAT IT DOVETAILS QUITE WELL WITH WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING IT WASN'T FOR STAFF.
ADDITIONAL STAFFING, IT WAS FOR THE PROJECTS THAT STAFF ARE WORKING ON IN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.
SO ANOTHER QUESTION, HOW IS THE FIRE MARSHAL'S DEPARTMENT OR, YOU KNOW, THAT PART OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU CALL THAT, HOW IS THAT STRUCTURED AND WHAT ARE YOU ALL? SO OUR CURRENT STAFFING IS MYSELF, THE FIRE MARSHAL, THE ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL, AND I CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE FULL-TIME FIRE INSPECTORS AND THE OPENING FOR THE HALFTIME.
OUR DUTIES RANGE FROM INSPECTING NEW CONSTRUCTION AND DOING ANNUAL STATE MANDATED INSPECTIONS.
SO OF THE FIVE FIRE INSPECTORS, FOUR OF THEM ARE FULL TIME DOING THOSE DUTIES OF THE MANDATED INSPECTIONS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AND I HAVE ONE INSPECTOR THAT IS DOING SOME OF THE WILDFIRE MITIGATION ACTIVITIES, WHICH INCLUDE THE HAZARD REDUCTION PROGRAM, WHICH WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH, DOING A LOT OF OUTREACH, ANSWERING QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND DOING THE VOLUNTARY INSPECTIONS OF THIS FUEL MODIFICATION ZONES.
AND I KNOW THERE'S A TON OF WORK TO BE DONE.
SO COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT THE RECOMMENDED STAFFING CHANGE IS THEN, LIKE IN TERMS OF THE DUTIES THAT THIS PERSON WOULD DO? YES.
SO THE NEW STAFF WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE REPORT TONIGHT, SO BEING THE MAIN LIAISON DURING THE CWPP PROCESS.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT DURING THAT PROCESS THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME DOING RESEARCH, WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN BUILDING OUT SOME FURTHER PROGRAMS. SO SOME OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE PUT FORTH TONIGHT WOULD BE DOING, POSSIBLY EXPANDING SOME OF OUR DEFENSIBLE SPACE INSPECTIONS AND PROVIDING COMPLIANCE REPORTS.
AS PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED DURING THE CWPP PROCESS, IT WILL PROBABLY BE DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THE FIELD, ASSESSING CONDITIONS, COMING BACK WITH...
DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE FIELD.
AND IT SEEMS THAT A LOT OF THIS MITIGATION, PROACTIVE PREPARATION, AND HARDENING IS COMING DOWN MORE AND MORE FROM THE STATE.
CAN YOU HELP DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT MORE, MAYBE EVEN DESCRIBE WHAT ZONE ZERO IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS? IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE DUDEC REPORT TOO.
YES, IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE DUDEC REPORT.
SO ZONE ZERO, IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WAS PUT INTO STATE LAW, I BELIEVE, BACK IN 2022.
IT'S BEEN DELAYED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION, BUT IT IS SITTING WITH THE STATE BOARD OF FORESTRY FOR PROMULGATION OF THE REGULATIONS.
SO THE CONCEPT BEHIND ZONE ZERO, IT'S AN IMMEDIATE ZONE AROUND HOMES.
THE FIRST FIVE FEET IS CONSIDERED ZONE ZERO AND IS INTENDED TO BE EITHER A NON-COMBUSTIBLE ZONE OR A LOW COMBUSTIBLE ZONE.
THE IDEA BEING DATA HAS SHOWN THAT MOST, ABOUT 90% OF STRUCTURES THAT ARE BURNED IN WILDFIRE ARE STARTED BY THE IGNITION OF FLYING EMBERS.
THE EMBERS WILL HIT THE STRUCTURE, THEY'LL FALL TO THE GROUND NEXT TO THE STRUCTURE, LIGHT SOMETHING ON FIRE, AND IT WILL START THE FIRE ON A HOME.
SO IF WE KEEP THE AREA AROUND STRUCTURES CLEAR OF THOSE COMBUSTIBLE ITEMS, WHEN THE EMBERS WILL HIT THE STRUCTURE, THEY WON'T START THE IGNITION.
SO THE STATE HAS BEEN DELAYED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS REGULATION.
THERE'S STILL WORKING ON THE DETAILS AS OF THE LAST
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STATE MEETING LAST MONTH.THEY WERE STILL DRAFT REGULATIONS, BUT THE TIMELINE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING FORTH IS THEY'RE EXPECTING IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT LAW FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, POSSIBLY AS EARLY AS JULY OF THIS YEAR, AND THEN EXISTING HOMES OR ANY EXISTING BUILDING IN THE VERY HIGH FIRE SEVERITY ZONE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITHIN THREE YEARS SOME OF THE REGULATIONS AND OTHER REGULATIONS, THERE'S A ROLE IN OVER THE YEARS.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THESE FORTHCOMING REGULATIONS, HOPING TO GET VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN TAKE QUICK ACTION TO REDUCE THE RISK OF WILDFIRE.
OKAY, SO TO CLARIFY, THE LAWS ARE COMING.
THEY'VE BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR SOME TIME, AND THEY WILL REQUIRE THAT HOMEOWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE VERY HIGH FIRES.
SEVERITY ZONE WILL NEED TO CLEAR THEIR PROPERTY FIVE FEET OUT.
IS THERE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS TO HELP DO THAT? SO, CLARIFICATION.
SO, SINCE THE REGULATIONS ARE STILL IN DRAFT FORM, THEY'RE IN THAT FIVE-FOOT ZONE.
THEY WON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO CLEAR EVERYTHING OUT, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME REMOVAL OF COMBUSTIBLE ITEMS. SO IN TERMS OF YOUR FUNDING QUESTION, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING AVAILABLE AT THIS POINT.
THERE ARE WILDFIRE MITIGATION GRANTS AVAILABLE THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING TOWARDS TO HELP PROVIDE HOMEOWNERS WITH THE ABILITY TO PERFORM THESE ACTIONS.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE CWPP IS THAT IS ONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT IS LOOKED AT FOR GRANT FUNDING WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE A PLAN AND ASSESSMENT IN PLACE.
IT'S FAR EASIER TO GET THAT FUNDING.
AND IS THE STATE DOING A BIG OUTREACH EFFORT AS WELL? I MEAN, CLEARLY, WE'RE DOING THAT.
AND AS, I GUESS, THE SECOND PART OF THAT, TRY TO CONDENSE MY QUESTION, ARE THEY GOING TO GIVE US FUNDING TO DO OUR OUTREACH TO OUR COMMUNITY? IS THERE A GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR US? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS.
IS THIS UNFUNDED MANDATE FOR US TO DO THE OUTREACH? IT IS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE, AND WE WILL BE SEEKING EVERY OPPORTUNITY THE TO RECEIVE THOSE FUNDS AND THE OFFICE OF THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL, WHILE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PROMULGATING THE REGS, HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF DOING EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AND GETTING AHEAD OF THIS.
I'M SO GLAD WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE ON THIS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES COMING AND THEY'RE ALL FOR THE BEST.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, OKAY, WE PUT TOGETHER THIS GREAT PLAN.
WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE LABOR THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? DO I UNDERSTAND WE CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS? SO THE PAYING FOR THE WORK IS PARTLY DEPENDENT ON WHAT WORK IS BEING DONE AND WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
SO IF WORK IS BEING PERFORMED ON CITY PROPERTY, THEN IT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OR GRANT FUNDING TO COVER IT.
PART OF THE PLAN IS LOOKING AT OPEN SPACE AREAS AND PRESERVES THAT ARE NOT OWNED BY THE CITY.
AND SO PART OF PHASE TWO WOULD BE EVALUATING WHERE PROJECTS WOULD BE RECOMMENDED AND THEN FINDING OUT WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THOSE AND WITH THAT WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FUNDING OF IT.
HELP ME, LET'S PUT A FACE TO IT.
I DRIVE BY HAAS GROVE PARK ALL THE TIME AND I LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE LARGE EUCALYPTUS TREES BACKED UP TO A LOT OF WOOD-FACED APARTMENTS AND A LOT OF HOUSES.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ADDRESSING? AND IF SO, HOW DO WE DO THAT? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE ARE CURRENTLY ADDRESSING HOSS GROVE THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION.
WE SHOWED THOSE PHOTOS AGAIN OF SOME OF THE CLEARANCE.
THE EUCALYPTUS SPECIES ARE PROTECTED, AND SO WE AREN'T ABLE TO JUST REMOVE ALL OF THE TREES.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN MITIGATING THE RISK AS WE'RE ABLE.
I'M NOT SURE IF PARKS AND RECREATION HAS THE ABILITY TO WEIGH IN MORE ON THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF PHASE TWO.
IDENTIFYING A HIGH-RISK AREA IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE THE REDUCTION OF THE FUEL AND THEN LOOKING AT THE HOMES SO HOME HARDENING IS ALWAYS AN OPTION THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND FOR EXISTING HOMEOWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS THERE ARE NOT REQUIREMENTS TO DO HOME HARDENING BUT THAT MIGHT BE PART OF OUR OUTREACH WOULD BE HELPING A COMMUNITY FIND WAYS THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE SOME EXTERIOR FIRE PROTECTION ON THEIR HOME I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO DRIVES BY GROVE PARK AND THEN THINKS ABOUT IT.
ANY CLOSING COMMENTS? MR. SHIN? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL IT BACK UP.IT'S THE ONE THAT BEFORE AND AFTER FROM WHAT WE USED TO HAVE TO I THINK IT'S SLIDE 14.
WHEN I WAS IN THE FIRE SERVICE AND I SAW THE ORIGINAL MAP, I WOULD LAUGH BECAUSE THAT WASN'T REAL.
AND WHAT I SEE IN 2025 IS REAL, THAT IT REALLY IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.
BUT WHAT I ALSO SEE IS THAT...
LOOKS LIKE WHERE OUR IGNITION SOURCES WOULD BE AND NOT JUST WHAT OUR FUEL WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT HOMES, I LOOK AT HOMES AS FUEL DURING WIND-DRIVEN EVENTS.
AND SO EVERY COMMUNITY IS KIND OF VULNERABLE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP, IT LOOKS PRETTY SCORCHING HOT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST IN OUR CITY, IT'S THOSE TO THE EAST.
AND THE FIRES I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT, WHICH I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, ARE THE SANTA ANA WIND-DRIVEN FIRES, WHICH WILL BASICALLY START...
ANYWHERE ALONG THE ENTIRE EASTERN BORDER OF OUR CITY AND HEAD WEST.
AND I ALWAYS TRY TO REMIND FOLKS THAT IT'S NOT IN IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER WILDFIRE IN OUR CITY, IT'S JUST WHEN.
AND SO I WAS HERE IN 2014 AND RESPONDED DOWN FROM L.A.
TO THE POINSETTIA AND COCOS FIRE, AND I RECALL THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME AS A CARLSBAD RESIDENT THAT I WAS LIKE, OH MAN.
AND I LOOKED AT THE MAPS AND I HAD REALLY REALIZED HOW PRECARIOUS OUR AREA IS.
EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE BEAUTY OF HAVING A LOT OF OPEN SPACES.
I JUST REALLY WANTED TO KIND OF STRESS THE FACT THAT WE'RE PREPARING FOR THE NEXT FIRE.
WE'RE NOT HERE SAYING WE'RE PREVENTING TO THIS POINT THAT THERE WON'T BE ANOTHER FIRE.
AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY AWARENESS COMPONENT IS IT SHOULD NEVER STOP BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS UNTIL IT'S SAID AND DONE.
AND WHEN I SAY POINSETTIA FIRE TO FOLKS THESE DAYS, THERE'S PLENTY OF NEW RESIDENTS WHO JUST LOOK AT US AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT? AND THEY CAN'T RECALL WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
THEY DON'T REALIZE WHAT A MOONSCAPE LOOKS LIKE AFTER A WILDFIRE PASSES AND JUST HOW DEVASTATING THAT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.
WHEN I WAS A FIREFIGHTER, NO, WAIT, SORRY.
IN 2014, WHEN MY KID WAS IN PRESCHOOL IS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY, HE WAS AT.
A POINT CITY A PRESCHOOL NEAR A POINT CITY THAT WAS EVACUATED AND WENT TO PICK HIM UP AND I HAD TO TAKE SEVERAL STUDENTS WITH ME HOME BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS COULDN'T GET THERE BECAUSE THE STREETS WERE CONGESTED IT TOOK US A COUPLE HOURS TO GET HOME TRAVELING OVER COLLEGE YOU COULD SEE THE OTHER FIRES BURNING AND FOR A LONG TIME AFTER THAT EVERY TIME A FIRE TRUCK'S SIRENS WENT OFF HE WAS VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT LIKE HE WAS VERY KEENLY AWARE OF FIRE SO THE POINT TO THAT BEAUTIFUL STORY IS THAT IF THIS HELPS IN ANY WAY FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE WE WERE FULLY NOT PREPARED, THAT HAS NO REFLECTION ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK WE JUST WEREN'T READY.
AND THANKFULLY, EVERYTHING WAS FINE.
BUT, LIKE, I JUST THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE STEPS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND NOW I HAVE SUCH A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TO PROTECT ALL OF US.
IN 2014, MY DAUGHTER WAS A FRESHMAN AT SAGE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS BRAND NEW, AND THEY WERE EVACUATED.
I WAS IN SACRAMENTO, AND I SAW THE FIRES WERE HAPPENING.
I SAW IT ON THE TV SCREENS AT THE GATE AS I WAS GETTING ON MY PLANE, AND WHEN I LANDED AND TURNED MY PHONE BACK ON, I HAD A MILLION TEXT MESSAGES, DON'T COME HOME, YOU CAN'T COME HOME, WE CAN'T GO BACK, YOU CAN'T COME TO CARLSBAD.
IT WAS TERRIFYING, ESPECIALLY AS A SINGLE MOM.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE MY DAUGHTER WAS.
I WAS IMMEDIATELY ON THE PHONE TO MY MOM, MY SISTERS.
I HAVE A SISTER WHO LIVES IN BONITA.
THEY SAID, GO TO YOUR SISTER'S HOUSE IN BONITA.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SLEEPOVER.
AND OF COURSE, RECENTLY SEEING THE FIRES IN LA AND JUST THE CRAZINESS OF FIRE, RIGHT? PEOPLE THOUGHT, OH, THE FIRE'S NOT GOING TO GET, IT'S NOT GOING TO HOP THE FREEWAY AND GET THOSE HOUSES IN THE PALISADES THAT ARE RIGHT UP ON THE BEACH IN THE WATER, AND IT DID.
AND IT WAS JUST A REAL PERFECT FIRESTORM IN THE WORST WAY, 100 MILE AN HOUR UP TO, THEY SAY, SANTA ANA WINDS, THROWING THOSE EMBERS OVER A MILE AWAY.
AND AS CLIMATE CHANGE MAKES WEATHER MORE EXTREME, OUR CLIMATE RISKS ARE INCREASING, AND WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED.
SO I'M SO PROUD, ONCE AGAIN, OF OUR CITY.
FOR BEING PROACTIVE, FOR HAVING THE STUDY, FOR STAYING ON TOP OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE STATE IN TERMS OF THE RULES CHANGING AND PREPARATION, MITIGATION, AND RESPONSE, BEING A RESILIENT COMMUNITY.
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I LOVED WHAT THE CHIEF SAID AT THE BEGINNING, TALKING ABOUT SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP TOGETHER, BECAUSE I CARE SO MUCH ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT.I CARE ABOUT OUR PARKS AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE TREE CITY USA FOR OVER 35 YEARS RUNNING.
I REALLY CARE ABOUT HAVING THAT GREEN SPACE AND A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS WONDERFUL OPEN SPACES, AND I KNOW OUR RESIDENTS DO TOO.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO PROTECT OURSELVES.
SO I THINK THIS IS A BLEND OF THOSE THINGS, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF US IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY, YOU KNOW, STORIES AROUND FIRE.
I'VE HAD FRIENDS OR FAMILY LOSE THEIR HOMES IN A SITUATION.
AND I REMEMBER IN THE 90S WHEN I WAS A KID WHEN THE FIRE THAT YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT HAD HAPPENED.
AND THEN IN 2007, THE ONE IN SAN MARCOS, WE...
HAD FRIENDS VERY CLOSE BY TO THAT AS WELL.
I REMEMBER THAT ONE PRETTY VIVIDLY AS WELL.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, 2014, MY BEST FRIEND LIVED VERY CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, THE POINSETTIA FIRE.
SO HAVING TO HELP THEM EVACUATE, FIGURE OUT LIKE, HEY, COME ON OVER.
THERE ARE A LOT OF LOTS OF EMOTIONS AROUND IT.
AND I KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PREPARED MOVING FORWARD.
OF COURSE, FIRE IS SCARY AND IT'S A LOT WHEN IT COMES TO COMES INTO OUR COMMUNITIES AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY TAKES SHAPE.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'M REALLY PROUD OF IS OUR TEAM AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT IN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PREPARED AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
THERE'S AMAZING TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE.
EVEN BEFORE I WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I THINK IT WAS AT UCSD, I HAD HEARD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY WERE UTILIZING, WHICH I THINK NOW FOLKS USE VERY, ACTUALLY MORE REGULARLY THAN AT THAT TIME.
IT WAS JUST LIKE AN EMERGING TECHNOLOGY.
SO IT'S JUST REALLY COOL TO SEE.
YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'VE COME IN 2026 FROM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED AND EVEN BEFORE THAT.
AND I THINK THE PIECE THAT'S GOING TO BE SO CRITICAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT AWARENESS PIECE AND THE COMMUNICATION PIECE, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO BE AWARE.
AND I THINK, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, WE'RE DEFINITELY MORE KEENLY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO REALLY APPRECIATE THIS TODAY.
IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF WORK AND LOOKING FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, FURTHER SUPPORTING IN ANY CAPACITY.
SINCE WE'RE ALL TELLING STORIES, I WASN'T JUST A FIREMAN.
AND WHAT THE JOBS ARE, THE COPS TRY TO PUT OUT THE FIRE.
THE POLICE OFFICERS TRY TO CLEAR THE ROAD AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S EVACUATED.
AND PROBABLY 30 YEARS AGO, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS CALLED THE QUESTHAVEN FIRE, IT ENDED UP.
WITH SANTA ANA'S, IT STARTED TAKING OFF IN THREE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
BACK THEN IT WAS CDF WHO RAN THOSE.
AS THE SERGEANT ON THE SHIFT, I WENT TO THE CDF DIRECTOR.
I SAID, WHAT'S THE PLAN? AND HE JUST LOOKED AT ME AND HE GOES, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
IT'LL BURN ITSELF OUT WHEN IT HITS THE OCEAN.
SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO PLAN AHEAD, BECAUSE ONCE THAT FIRE'S GOING AND THE WINDS ARE BLOWING IT, THEN IT'S TOO LATE TO MAKE THE PLAN.
I THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORTS YOU PUT INTO IT.
HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GO WITHOUT A BATHROOM BREAK.
AND MAY I SUGGEST WE SKIP THE FORMAL PRESENTATION.
[16. APPOINTMENT TO THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS ]
WE JUST ASKED FOR AN INTRODUCTION AND OPTIONS.IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL? OKAY.
ITEM 16 IS THE APPOINTMENT TO THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
BOTH THE ASSISTANT CITY CLERK MORGAN FRYE AND THE DIRECTOR OF CONSTITUENT CLERK SERVICES, FABIOLA MEDINA, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THIS APPOINTMENT.
YOU WANT WHAT YOUR THREE CHOICES ARE TOO? YEAH, LET'S SAY WE HAVE THE CHOICES.
JUST A SHORT INTRODUCTION AND OPTIONS.
MORGAN FRY, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK.
GET YOU TO A GOOD SLIDE WITH YOUR OPTIONS.
YOUR OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE EITHER ADOPT A CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS RESOLUTION APPOINTING THE...
APPOINTING CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT GENERAL MANAGER AMANDA FLESSEE TO THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS OR ADOPT A CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL
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WATER DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS RESOLUTION APPOINTING ONE BOARD MEMBER TO THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 2026 OR UNTIL A REPLACEMENT IS APPOINTED OR DIRECT STAFF TO OPEN A RECRUITMENT TO FILL A VACANCY ON THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND TO PLACE AN ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA TO APPOINT ONE MEMBER TO THE BOARD.DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.
ANY QUESTIONS? MS. BURKHOLDER? JUST COMMENTS.
MS. BURKHOLDER, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR COMMENT.
SO I THINK, REALLY, I ONLY JUST WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT MS. FLESSY.
AMANDA FLESSY IS OUR CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT DIRECTOR, AND I THINK SHE'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB ON THE WATER BOARD, THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY.
I FEEL REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH HER IN THAT ROLE AS A PROFESSIONAL IN WATER.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A DESAL PLANT HERE IN CARLSBAD.
I DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH SOMEONE.
I'M ON THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH MY PARTNER, COUNCIL MEMBER COSTO, WHICH IS AMAZING, BUT HAVING AN EXPERT SITTING NEXT TO YOU DURING THAT, I THINK IS A REALLY IMPORTANT POSITION.
AND I ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU'RE NOT ELECTED, YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME POTENTIAL TO BE EXPOSED TO POLITICAL AGENDAS OR OUTSIDE, EVEN EXTERNAL IMPACTS TO THAT POSITION.
SO I WOULD HATE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN JUST AT THE EXPENSE OF CARLSBAD RESIDENTS.
SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH HER, AND I HAVE CONFIDENCE DEFINITELY THAT STAFF WILL PREPARE WHOMEVER IS SITTING ON THAT BOARD.
I WOULD STAND BY MS. FLESSY AS THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT DIRECTOR, GENERAL MANAGER, SORRY, IN THAT POSITION.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
I AGREE WITH AMANDA FLESSY'S COMMENT.
I DO LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF WHERE THIS POSITION WAS SET UP AND IT WAS SET UP FIRST AS A RESIDENT AND THEN WE APPOINTED A STAFF IF THAT'S CORRECT AND WHEN I LOOK AT HOW WE KIND OF SET POLICY HERE WHEN IT COMES FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVE IN POSITIONS WHEN GIVEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ALREADY SET THAT WITH BUENA VISTA LAGOON LEGISLATORS WHICH WAS JUST STATED ENCINO WASTEWATER AUTHORITY SCHOOL DISTRICT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND I SEE THIS IS IF THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HAVE ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH THAT WE THEN ALLOW.
SO I'M GOOD FOR MAKING THE MOTION OF OPTION NUMBER TWO.
AND MY POSITION LOOKS LIKE I'M AVAILABLE TO TAKE THAT SPOT IF NEED BE.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE COMMENTS AS WELL.
I, AS YOU KNOW, I SIT ON THE CROSS THAT THE BOTH.
THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
I WAS FIRST APPOINTED IN JANUARY 2023, AND I'VE BEEN REAPPOINTED, THANKS TO YOU ALL, THANKS, FOR THESE.
I AM THE SECRETARY OF THE BOARD.
I WAS UNANIMOUSLY SELECTED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
I, OF COURSE, HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH THE VARIOUS PEOPLE IN THE CITY.
CARLSBAD IS THE ONLY OTHER RETAIL DISTRICT THAT HAS MORE THAN ONE APPOINTEE.
SAN DIEGO, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO HAS 10 POSITIONS AND WE HAVE TWO.
THERE MIGHT BE ONE OTHER ACTUALLY ENTITY THAT HAS TWO.
BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT VOICE AT THE WATER AUTHORITY BOARD AND THAT IS THE WHOLESALER FOR THE DISTRICT FOR THE WHOLE REGIONAL.
DESAL IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.
AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE MANY OTHER ISSUES LIKE VERY LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE, LARGE SCALE PROJECTS, BIG CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
I'VE SERVED WITH MR. LUINGER, WITH MS. QUIRUM, AND NOW WITH MS. FLESSE.
SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.
I DO THINK THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR SOMEONE ELSE, WHETHER IT'S ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEMBER OR ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER TO JOIN.
THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN, JUST A CAUTIONARY TALE.
THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH AND READING TO DO, AND IT'S A REALLY WONDERFUL AND IMPORTANT ROLE TO SERVE ON THE WATER AUTHORITY BOARD, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF HOMEWORK AND LEARNING TO DO.
I'VE STEPPED UP TO THE CHALLENGE, AND IT'S BEEN REALLY GREAT.
ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER SERVING WITH ME ON THE BOARD.
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THANK YOU.I SERVED FOR ONE YEAR ON THE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY, AND THAT WAS PLENTY FOR ME.
AND I WAS I WAS PLEASED TO LEAVE THAT JOB.
SO GOOD FOR YOU, MR. COSTA, FOR STICKING IN THERE AND DOING ALL THAT WORK.
GOOD FOR YOU FOR OFFERING, MR. SHIN.
SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT MY FIRST PREFERENCE IS NUMBER ONE, TO GO WITH AMANDA SERVING IN THERE.
BUT I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW I HAVE NO HEARTBURN WHATSOEVER IF MR. SHIN IS THE ONE WHO'S SELECTED TO GO THERE.
SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND THAT WAS FOR NUMBER TWO.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S UNDERSTOOD BY ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THE NOMINEE IS GOING TO BE COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN FOR THIS ONE.
THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD FOR THIS MOTION THAT THE NOMINEE IS GOING TO BE COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN.
WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON IS THE RESOLUTION.
THE MOTION IS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION SECOND OPTION AND THAT THE NOMINEE WILL BE COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN.
YES, I UNDERSTOOD THAT AS COMBINED.
THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP.
AND EVEN THOUGH I VOTED NO, PLEASE UNDERSTAND I HAVE TOTAL CONFIDENCE IN YOU.
[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WELCOME, AND WE CAN HAVE STUDY SESSIONS TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO DO.THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR AGENDA.
JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE TWO BIG THANK YOUS.
OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR RESPONDING YESTERDAY AT THE AIRPORT FIRE AND BEING PART OF THE MUTUAL AID PROCESS.
AND IT KIND OF TEED UP NICELY.
THERE WAS NO INJURIES THAT TOOK PLACE OR DEATHS THERE.
AND TO HAVE THIS PRESENTED TO US KIND OF REMINDS US WHAT TO BE CAREFUL FOR.
I ALSO WANTED TO, MY DAUGHTERS WANTED TO THANK TOM FRANK AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR CREATING THE STOP SIGNS THAT GO FROM CHESTNUT, FROM OUR COMMUNITY, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
THEY SAID WE'RE NOT PLAYING FROGGER ANYMORE AND THEY'RE NOT HEARING ME POTENTIALLY SAY SOME FOUR-LETTER WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH WHEN I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO GET HIT.
SO I FEEL THE SAFETY AND I JUST THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THAT.
GENERAL SHOUT OUT TO STAFF TONIGHT FROM ME AS WELL.
I FEEL LIKE EVERY DAY I GET SOME TYPE OF FIRE THAT SHOULD BE PUT OUT, NOT BY MY OWN DOING, BUT FROM CONSTITUENTS.
STAFF IS ALWAYS VERY QUICK TO RESPOND AND TO TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE GENERALLY THEY'RE NOT CALLING ME BECAUSE THERE'S A TRASH CAN LEFT IN THE CUL-DE-SAC.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED SOONER THAN LATER AND YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL ONCE IT IS ADDRESSED.
WHEN YOU SAID EVERY DAY YOU GET A FIRE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A REAL FIRE FOR A SECOND.
OKAY, THIS MORNING WE HAD THE LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND WE TOOK POSITIONS.
WE TOOK SOME WATCH POSITIONS TO BRING THINGS BACK, BUT WE ALSO TOOK SOME OPPOSITION POSITIONS TO SOME STATE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD REALLY HARM CITIES AND SPECIFICALLY CARLSBAD.
SO WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO PROTECT THE CITY AND TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VOICE IS HEARD IN SACRAMENTO.
TODAY, ALSO, THE TWO BILLS THAT OUR CITY IS...
AND AS A REMINDER, THOSE BILLS WERE CARRIED AT THE REQUEST OF OUR CITY, AND WE ARE PROUD TO SEE THEM MOVE THROUGH AND HOPEFULLY BECOME LAW SOON.
WE ALREADY HAVE SPONSORED FIVE BILLS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
ALL FIVE OF THEM HAVE BECOME LAW.
WE HAVE TWO THIS YEAR, AND I THINK THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR A PERFECT RECORD OF SEVEN OUT OF SEVEN BECOMING LAW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO JINX IT, SO KNOCK ON WOOD.
LAST WEEK, I ATTENDED THE CAL CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY POLICY COMMITTEE.
THIS WAS ON ZOOM, AND IT WAS ONE OF MANY POLICY COMMITTEES OF DIFFERENT TOPICS, DIFFERENT SUBJECTS, THAT CITY OFFICIALS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE ATTENDED WHERE WE DISCUSSED POTENTIAL POSITIONS ON LEGISLATION AND EVEN A STATE BALLOT MEASURE CALLED BACA, BUILDING AN AFFORDABLE CALIFORNIA ACT.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS BEST FOR CALIFORNIA, AND WE HAD A VERY VIBRANT DISCUSSION.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES WILL GO TO THE CALCITIES BOARD IN THEIR JULY MEETING IN REDONDO BEACH.
ALSO, ON MONDAY, YESTERDAY, I ATTENDED THE CALCITIES SAN DIEGO COUNTY DIVISION MEETING.
THAT'S A GATHERING OF ALL THE CITIES OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY, AND THAT WAS ALSO ON ZOOM.
WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE POLICY COMMITTEES BECAUSE I ONLY ATTENDED THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY POLICY
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COMMITTEE, BUT THERE WERE MANY OTHER COMMITTEES THAT REPORTED OUT.WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL AIRPORT AUTHORITY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING AT THE AIRPORT.
AND IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE RECENTLY AT THE SAN DIEGO AIRPORT, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY POSITIVE CHANGES.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION FOR YEARS, BUT THEY HAVE OPENED TERMINAL 1 WITH A LOT OF GREAT IMPROVEMENTS AND THE PARKING GARAGE AS WELL.
SO IT'S BEEN WORTH IT, AND THEY'RE CONTINUING FINISHING UP ON THE TERMINAL 1 IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE IS ONE WATER UPDATE AS WELL, WHICH IS LAST WEEK.
THE AT THE DESAL PLANT, WE, YES, PLEASE LEAN IN, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN.
LAST WEEK AT THE DESAL PLANT, WE HAD A SIGNING CEREMONY OF AN MOU BETWEEN SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY AND OFFICIALS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATE.
AND OF CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, AND NEVADA, THEY ALL SHOWED UP TO SIGN AN MOU THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PURSUE WATER TRANSFER AGREEMENTS.
AND ESSENTIALLY, THAT IS THE ABILITY FOR THE LEGAL ABILITY FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY TO TRANSFER WATER ACROSS STATE LINES.
WE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT AS OF THIS YEAR.
THIS IS VERY INNOVATIVE, NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE IN CALIFORNIA.
SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY TO EASTERN MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND WESTERN MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, BOTH IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY AND SOON TO COME STATES.
OTHER STATES WILL BE BUYING OUR WATER BECAUSE THE COLORADO RIVER BASIN IS REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THE DEPLETING WATER LEVELS IN THE COLORADO RIVER.
I LOOK FORWARD TO GIVING YOU MORE CLIFF NOTES AND HELPING YOU GET UP TO SPEED, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN.
POSITIVE THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THE WATER WORLD. THANKS.
YES, THANK YOU. AND JUST A FEW UPDATES HERE. WE HAD A NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING AND A PERFORMANCE ADMINISTRATION FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.
DURING BOTH, WE RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON THE BUDGET. WE WILL BE ADOPTING THE BUDGET IN JUNE.
WE WILL BE PROPOSING A BALANCED BUDGET, SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT. CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE ALSO HAD AN UPDATE AROUND OUR BUDGET. SIMILARLY, SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. WE ALSO DISCUSSED RATE RELIEF AND PASSED THAT AND ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT ROLLED OUT FOR OUR RATE PAYERS. WE CELEBRATED CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE'S FIFTH ANNIVERSARY.
THAT WAS AT AGUA HERIA AND DADA GOON FOUNDATION, AND I KNOW SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE WERE IN ATTENDANCE. WE DID HAVE THE COMMITTEE MEETING FOR CALCITIES TRANSPORTATION, COMMUNICATION, AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT. BUILDING AFFORDABLE COMMUNITIES ACT, AND IN THAT, I CAN SHARE OUT THAT I DID VOTE NO ON THAT, AT LEAST WHEN IT ADVANCES TO THE BOARD AND WHEN THEY DISCUSS IT, THAT I DID VOTE NO, THAT WE DO NOT SUPPORT THAT MEASURE.
EIGHTY-ONE PERCENT IN OUR PARTICULAR COMMITTEE VOTED NO, AND 19 PERCENT YES. SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT OUT. AND THEN OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU ALL, AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD REST OF YOUR WEEK. MS. ACOSTA.
MAYOR, JUST IN HEARING THE MAYOR PRO TEM'S COMMENTS ABOUT HER VOTE, I ABSTAINED FROM THE VOTE ON BACA, THE BUILDING AFFORDABLE CALIFORNIA ACT, BUT THE COMMITTEE THAT I SIT ON VOTED MAJORITY
[CITY MANAGER COMMENTS]
AGAINST THIS BACA, WHICH IS COMING TO NOVEMBER BALLOT. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO LOOK IT UP BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE ON IT STATEWIDE. THANK YOU.CITY MANAGER. I DON'T THINK I LOOK GOOD IN A MUSTACHE, SO
[CITY CLERK COMMENTS]
THAT'S WHY I'M NOT A FIREFIGHTER. NOTHING FOR ME.CITY ATTORNEY. CITY CLERK. AND TO END, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU FOR MEMORIAL DAY, I WAS INVITED TO THE CEREMONY AT MOUNT SOLEDAD, AND IT WAS WONDERFUL. IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO MOUNT SOLEDAD, BY THE WAY, GO. IT'S WORTH IT. TAKE YOUR FAMILY. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE VIEWS FROM UP THERE. SO THIS IS THE CEREMONY AND THE FLYOVER.
THEY'LL FLY OVER, THERE WE GO. THEY EVEN HAD THE FLYOVER WITH THE, WHAT DO THEY CALL THAT, THE MISSING MAN FORMATION. AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD PARTNERS WITH THE CARLSBAD VILLAGE ASSOCIATION ON OUR COMMUNITY BANNERS. AND THIS YEAR, THE CITY IS PARTNERING WITH THE ASSOCIATION ON SPECIAL BANNERS CELEBRATING THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE. BEGINNING TODAY THE PATRIOTIC... PATRIOTIC BANNERS ARE BEING INSTALLED IN 85 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT CARLSBAD IN CELEBRATION OF THIS IMPORTANT EVENT.
CARLSBAD IS JOINING CITIES THROUGHOUT THE REGION WHO WILL BE CELEBRATING 4TH OF JULY WITH PATRIOTIC BANNERS AND
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AMERICAN FLAGS. THESE BANNERS WILL REMAIN UP UNTIL MID-SEPTEMBER. WE'RE ADJOURNED.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.