Jun 23, 2026 City Council Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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I'M CALLING TONIGHT'S MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE TAKE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN.

PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL. HERE. MAYOR BLACKBURN PRESENT.

ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. HAVE TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT.

[ANNOUNCEMENT OF CONCURRENT MEETINGS]

NEXT IS THE PLEDGE. MISS BHAT-PATEL, WILL YOU PLEASE LEAD US? YES. PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE. PLEASE TAKE YOUR HATS OFF AND PUT YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.

READY? BEGIN. [INAUDIBLE]

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

SO MOVED. SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT IS PRESENTATIONS. SORRY. WILL COME UP AND DO A PRESENTATION FOR FROM THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL

[PRESENTATIONS]

I AM THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD.

AND I AM JOINED HERE WITH GITA NASSIRI FROM THE CARLSBAD LIBRARY AND ARTS FOUNDATION.

WE'RE HERE TO ACKNOWLEDGE A DONATION THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE OF ALMOST $230,000 FOR US.

IT HELPS TO PROVIDE OUR WONDERFUL LIBRARY AND ARTS EVENTS AND PROGRAMS AND COLLECTIONS AND SERVICES, AND IT SUPPLEMENTS THE PRIMARY FUNDING FROM THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.

AND I'M SURE I REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AND THE STAFF AND ALL OF YOU IN EXTENDING AN APPRECIATION TO THE FOUNDATION FOR MANAGING THESE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT COME FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO OFTEN DONATE THROUGH ENDOWMENTS.

SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO GITA NASSIRI NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SMITHSON. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR BLACKBURN AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I AM PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY, AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A FULL AGENDA, BUT I AM PLEASED, VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE CARLSBAD LIBRARY AND ARTS FOUNDATION.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE SEVERAL SEVERAL OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY, JOHN LUCAS, MICHAEL HALL, AND GINA MCBRIDE, WHO IS ALSO SERVING ON THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND IS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE ON OUR BOARD. OUR BOARD WE HAVE MINIMAL OVERHEAD.

WE HAVE NO EMPLOYEES. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I LOVE TO TALK ABOUT.

THE FOUNDATION IS A 501 C(3), AS YOU KNOW, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ESTABLISHED IN 1998 WITH A SINGLE MISSION, A SINGLE MISSION TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT AND ENHANCE THE CITY OF CARLSBAD'S LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS PROGRAMS AND FACILITIES.

THANKS TO THE GENEROSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE FOUNDATION HAS CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN $2.5 MILLION TO ARTS, LITERARY, LITERACY AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT CARLSBAD AND CURRENTLY MANAGES NEARLY $6 MILLION IN ENDOWMENT FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027.

THE FOUNDATION IS PROUD TO PROVIDE $224,877 IN SUPPORT OF THE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT. THE, THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT IS THE MONEY IS COMING FROM THREE ENDOWMENTS.

THE ROBERT H. GARDNER CULTURAL ENDOWMENT FUND.

THE. AND THAT'S FOR PROGRAMING IN THE RUBY G.

SCHULMAN AUDITORIUM, THE BENSON FAMILY ENDOWMENT FUND, AND THE FUNDS FROM THAT ENDOWMENT GO TO THE LIBRARY COLLECTION, MOSTLY THE DIGITAL COLLECTION AND THE LEARNING CENTER.

THE CANNON ENDOWMENT TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS, EXHIBITS AND ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CANNON ART GALLERY.

IN ADDITION, THE FOUNDATION HAS HELPED BRING BACK LAST YEAR AND CONTINUING THIS YEAR, THE POPULAR POP UP ART EXPERIENCES AND PRE-CONCERT DANCE LESSONS AT THE TGIF CONCERTS IN THE PARK.

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AND I HAVE TO SAY, THE TURNAROUND FOR THAT WAS SO QUICK WITHIN THE YEAR THAT SCULPTURE GARDEN WAS UP.

I AM ALSO PLEASED TO SHARE THAT THE FOUNDATION RECENTLY RECEIVED A REMARKABLE LEGACY GIFT OF $452,805 FROM A TRUST, SO A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF A MILLION.

WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL TO THE FAMILY FOR THEIR GENEROSITY.

THIS GIFT WILL SUPPORT THE CANNON ART GALLERY.

IT WILL BE KNOWN AS THE CANNON ENDOWMENT TO FUND AND WILL HELP ENSURE THIS PERSON'S COMMITMENT TO THE ARTS CONTINUING FOR GENERATIONS TO COME, TO COME. AND JUST TO FINISH OFF, ONE OF THE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF THE FOUNDATION IS THAT THE DONATIONS ARE INVESTED AND THE EARNINGS FROM THE INVESTMENTS ARE USED TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS ALLOWING THE GIFTS THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNTS TO CONTINUE BENEFITING, BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY YEAR AFTER YEAR.

SO IT'S THE EARNINGS THAT GET DISTRIBUTED. FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK DIRECTOR SUZANNE SMITHSON AND THE ENTIRE LIBRARY AND CULTURAL ARTS STAFF FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING WORK [APPLAUSE]. YES.

TRULY WELL EARNED AND AS WELL AS I WANT. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALL OF YOU ACTUALLY, FOR YOUR CONTINUING CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE LIBRARIES AND THE ARTS IN CARLSBAD.

THANK YOU. WILL YOU PLEASE INVITE THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS UP HERE FOR A PHOTO? [INAUDIBLE] OKAY, LET'S STAY UP TOP.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU. HI. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NICE TO SEE YOU. THANKS FOR COMING. GREAT TO SEE YOU.

HELLO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD.

YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD. YEAH. I CAN'T SEE. MOVE OVER THAT WAY.

JUST A TOUCH. ONE. TWO. THREE. AND WE HAVE ONE MORE CAMERA.[INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

THE BROWN ACT AND THE CITY'S MEETING RULES ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS ARE REGARDING MATTERS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS, AS LONG AS THE COMMENTS RELATE TO THE QUESTION OR MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION.

INFORMATION ON HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.

CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, NO ACTION MAY OCCUR ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN MAKING COMMENTS, PLEASE TREAT OTHERS WITH COURTESY, CIVILITY AND RESPECT.

WE WELCOME CLAPPING DURING THE CEREMONIAL PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HOWEVER, WE ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING DURING THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE MEETING, STARTING WITH THE NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS WILL HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY, AND THAT THIS CHAMBER IS A PLACE WHERE ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE WELCOMED AND RESPECTED.

THE CLERK WILL CALL YOUR NAME. PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THE END OF 2.5 MINUTES, THE LIGHT ON THE PODIUM WILL TURN YELLOW, GIVING YOU A NOTICE THAT YOU'RE DOWN TO 30S. I'VE ASKED THE CLERK TO TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE AT THE COMPLETION OF THREE MINUTES.

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PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. VICKY.

HELLO, VICKY. AND TODAY I'M HERE REPRESENTING CITIZENS FOR FRIENDLY AIRPORT.

WITH A HEAVY HEART I HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THAT C4FA YESTERDAY FILED ITS THIRD LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO FOR THEIR NEW AMERICAN AIRLINES CONTRACT.

WE DID THIS AS WE WERE LEFT WITH NO OTHER CHOICE.

THE COUNTY AND AMERICAN HAD THE OPTION TO AMEND THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WAS UNDER LITIGATION, BUT COLLECTIVELY, THEY DETERMINED TO END THAT CONTRACT AND START A BRAND NEW ONE WITH VERY SIMILAR, YET DIFFERENT ENOUGH THAT WOULD REQUIRE A NEW LAWSUIT.

THE HEARINGS ARE STILL ON FOR AUGUST 14TH FOR THE CURRENT UNITED ONE.

I'M NOT A LAWYER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FIRST LAWSUIT.

AS SOON AS THE COUNTY HAS BEEN SERVED AND WE GET THESE STAMPED COMPLAINT BACK, IT WILL BE SENT OUT VIA EMAIL TO ALL OF OUR SUPPORTERS AND POSTED PUBLICLY ON OUR WEBSITE. I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT C4FA HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO DO THIS.

THE THE COUNTY HAS REFUSED TO FOLLOW A 2021 COURT ORDER.

I'M GOING TO REPEAT THAT. THE COUNTY HAS CHOSEN TO INTENTIONALLY VIOLATE A COURT ORDER, AND THE ONLY REMEDY FOR THAT IS TO HAUL THEM BACK INTO COURT. C4FA REMAINS STEADFAST IN OUR DETERMINATION THAT WE WILL BE PROTECTING LOCAL CONTROL OF THAT AIRPORT FOR CARLSBAD CITIZENS. WE HOPE THE CITY WILL STAND WITH US AND FIGHT AS STRONGLY AS WE WILL.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE TYPE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING IN AND OUT OF THE AIRPORT.

THIS IS ABOUT WHO GETS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

THIS IS ABOUT WHO GETS TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF THAT AIRPORT.

THIS IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO A VOTING RIGHTS AND VOTING SUPPRESSION ISSUE, BECAUSE BY A CITIZEN'S INITIATIVE IN 1980, ANY EXPANSION OF THAT AIRPORT MUST BE GIVEN TO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.

THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO SUBVERT, SUBVERT THAT VOTE, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT.

SO IF WE HAVE TO FILE A LAWSUIT, NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER SIX, I'M HERE TO SAY TO THE COUNTY AND TO AMERICAN AIRLINES, THAT BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY, WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY.

WE ARE GOING TO PROTECT CARLSBAD'S RIGHT TO VOTE.

WE ARE GOING TO PROTECT CARLSBAD'S LOCAL CONTROL, AND WE ARE GOING TO FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO FOLLOW COURT ORDERS.

THANK YOU. KATHY GILLEN.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M KATHY GILLEN OF SAN MARCOS.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. THIS IS AN ELECTION YEAR FOR THREE OF YOU, WHICH PLACES YOU IN A DIFFICULT POSITION OF BALANCING THE INTERESTS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, THE FUTURE OF YOUR CITY, PRESERVING YOUR LEGACIES.

AND LASTLY, YOUR MOTTO ON THE WALL. MEANWHILE, THE GREATLY IMPACTED COMMUNITIES BY THE INCREASED COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ARE SAN MARCOS, ESCONDIDO, AND VISTA, WHO ALSO HAVE THREE MAYORAL AND SEVEN COUNCIL SEAT RACES IN NOVEMBER.

MANY OF THOSE RESIDENTS ACROSS THOSE CITIES SHARE DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUTURE AND SAFETY OF PALOMAR AIRPORT.

THEY NATURALLY LOOK TO CARLSBAD LEADERSHIP FOR ANSWERS, AS MOST PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE OF THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

THERE'S ALSO A PERCEPTION THAT KEY DECISIONS ARE BEING SHAPED BY REGIONAL BODIES, WHERE LOCAL REPRESENTATION HAS BEEN LIMITED OR NON-EXISTENT.

THESE INCLUDE THE SAN DIEGO AIRPORT LAND USE COMMISSION, WHICH CARLSBAD HAS NOT HAD REPRESENTATION FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND THE LAFCO, WHOSE NEAREST REPRESENTATIVE IS DEL MAR.

GIVEN THIS CONTEXT, MANY CONSTITUENTS ARE REQUESTING CARLSBAD REVIEW ITS REPRESENTATION ON THESE TWO COMMITTEES AND ENSURE THAT LOCAL VOICES ARE CONSISTENTLY PRESENT WHERE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE. FINALLY, COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALSO URGE CARLSBAD CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT WITH C4FA IN THE UNITED AIRLINES LAWSUIT, THE AMERICAN AIRLINES SUIT AND TO PROTECT ALL NORTH COUNTY RESIDENTS.

THE SITUATION IS QUICKLY BECOMING AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN, ALL BEING CAUSED BY THE COUNTY'S OWN MAKING.

THANK YOU. EVERETT SHAUN ASHTON.

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I LIVE OVER IN MARINER'S POINT, AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY MUCH BEHIND THE SCENES ON THE AIRPORT.

I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, AND SO BECAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA LATER TONIGHT, I WANTED TO, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT I'VE LEARNED IN MY RESEARCH AND IN GETTING TO KNOW THE FOLKS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, I WANTED TO SET A STAGE FOR WHERE WE'RE GOING IN THE FUTURE REGARDING THE PROCESS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT A VERY KIND AND SUPPORTIVE CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US. THE CITY HAS BEEN GREAT, COMING ALONGSIDE IN NEW WAYS DIFFERENTLY THAN IN THE PAST REGARDING THE AIRPORT, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH.

BUT I WANT TO CHALLENGE US. THAT'S MY PROFESSION.

THAT'S WHAT I DO. I COACH PEOPLE AND I CHALLENGE PEOPLE IN THE MOST POSITIVE WAY I CAN.

SO I'VE COME UP WITH SOMETHING CALLED TLC. T IS FOR TRANSPARENCY.

I THINK IF WE ALL THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, IF WE ALL KEEP COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER, WE CAN RAISE THE BAR ON TRANSPARENCY AND I THINK IT WILL BENEFIT EVERYBODY.

THE SECOND L IS FOR LOCAL CONTROL. AND AND I MY PERSONAL ASK FOR YOU IS TO FIND EVERY SINGLE LOCAL CONTROL RESOURCE THE CITY HAS TO HELP THE CITIZENS WITH THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE REGARDING THE AIRPORT.

I'M TALKING EVERYTHING, NOT JUST THE CUP. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT THE CUP.

SOMETIMES THE CHALLENGE IS WITH THE CUP ARE NOT HAVING IT.

IT'S ENFORCING IT. BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS EVERYTHING FROM PERMITS TO EASEMENTS TO ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN PUT A BIG NO IN FRONT OF IT AND SAY, NOPE, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT BECAUSE THE COUNTY HASN'T RESPECTED THE CITY'S LAWS.

THE COUNTY HASN'T RESPECTED THE CITY'S CITIZENS.

THE INSIGHT I HAVE GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1980, AND IT'S GENERATIONAL INSIGHT.

THIS ISN'T A NEW TOPIC FOR THE CITIZENS OF CARLSBAD.

WE ALL KNOW THAT. AND EVERY TIME THERE'S BEEN AN ENCOUNTER BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY'S COME OUT AHEAD A LOT OF THE TIME, AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN ANYMORE.

AND USUALLY IT'S AT THE EXPENSE OF THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS.

AND SO LETTER C IS FOR COMMUNITY COLLABORATION.

AND I ALSO LOVE TO RAISE THE BAR ON THAT. THESE FOLKS, FOR EVERY CONSULTANT THE CITY HIRES, I BET YOU THERE'S FIVE VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME RIGHT NOW.

HIGH LEVEL, INTELLIGENT, INTELLECTUAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED HOURS AND HOURS AND DOLLARS AND DOLLARS.

AND I WOULD JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M GRATEFUL FOR MY PARTICIPATION WITH THE CITIZENS.

I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL, OF ALL OF YOU. AND IF THERE'S A CHEERLEADER IN THE GROUP, I'M GOING TO BE THAT PERSON.

AND IF WE HAVE TO HAVE HARD, HONEST CONVERSATIONS, I HOPE WE CAN ALL DO THAT AND WE CAN ALL BE STRONGER FOR IT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CHALLENGE. THANK YOU. MARY LUCID.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARY LUCID, AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE SENIORS AT THE SENIOR CENTER. I KNOW RECENTLY THE MAYOR WENT TO SEE THE CITY SENIOR CENTER, AND WE COULD USE A SOFA BY THE GYM AND FOR SOME REASON TOO, THERE IS NO GREEN SALAD THAT USED TO BE SERVED EVERY DAY. I KNOW LETTUCE IS EXPENSIVE, BUT I THINK CARLSBAD CAN AFFORD IT, ESPECIALLY DUE TO THE GENEROSITY OF A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE DONATING MONEY. HOPEFULLY ALL OF YOU WILL REACH A CERTAIN AGE WHERE YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER.

MAYBE YOUR KIDS NO LONGER LIVE HERE. MAYBE YOU NEVER HAD KIDS.

MAYBE YOUR FRIENDS ARE DEAD. MAYBE YOU'RE AFRAID TO SPEAK OR SAY HELLO TO A SENIOR.

I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER. AND IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH DOING LESS, THEN WE SHOULD STEP IT UP A BIT. BECAUSE, AS YOU SAY, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE GENEROUS AND INTELLIGENT AND CAN POSSIBLY SEE THE SENIOR CENTER AS A STEPPING STONE FOR SERVING SENIORS.

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THEY MAY NOT TALK TOO MUCH. MAYBE THEY SHOULD SPEAK UP MORE AND SAY HOW RIDICULOUS IT IS THAT CARLSBAD SENIOR CENTER HAS FALLEN TO THE DEPTHS. USED TO BE NUMBER ONE NOW? NOT SO MUCH. NOT SO MUCH. YOU SET A TONE. YOU TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT, BUT THEN YOU FILE, FAIL TO SUPERVISE. THE PARK AND REC EMPLOYEES WHO MAY HAVE OTHER IDEAS. THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOUR CODE VIOLATIONS THAT YOU CAN SUSPEND PEOPLE FOR FIVE YEARS.

COME ON. INSTEAD OF LOOKING TO PUNISH PEOPLE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD LEARN AND TRY TO ADVISE AND HELP SENIORS TO LIVE A BETTER LIFE. DON'T WE ALL WANT TO HAVE FUN AND LIVE A BETTER LIFE AND UNDERSTAND OTHER PEOPLE'S POINT OF VIEW? MR..

SHIN.

JULIE LOVE. IN MARCH OF 2022, OUR CONGRESSPERSON, MIKE LEVIN GOT $5 MILLION FOR LIGHTING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOTHING I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS A CRITICISM OF MR. LEVIN, HIS STAFF, OR OUR OWN LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.

THANKS TO ALL OF THE ABOVE WHO DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.

SO NOW IT'S JUNE OF 2026. NO LIGHTS. EVERYBODY IN [INAUDIBLE] HAS SPRAY PAINTED WHERE THEY'LL GO.

THERE WAS EVEN INSTRUCTION IN THE STREET ON HOW TO, QUOTE UNQUOTE, OPERATE A SPRAY PAINT CAN WHEN THERE ARE FEDERAL FUNDS.

THE PROCESS REFERRED TO AS MILKING THE COW SEEMS TO UNFORTUNATELY FOLLOW.

MY HUSBAND IS THE KIND OF GUY WHO SAYS, HOW'S IT GOING? HOW'S IT GOING? AS A SIMPLE GREETING. WE'VE GOTTEN TIRADES FROM WORKERS THAT TO HOW'S IT GOING? THE PEOPLE LEADING THE PROJECT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BASIC ELECTRICITY.

I'M [INAUDIBLE] AT LUNCH AND LOUDLY REFERRING TO THEIR TEAM LEADERS AS A TYPE OF WAGON I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO MENTION HERE.

ON JUNE 9TH WE WERE HAVING WORK DONE ON OUR HOUSE.

A MAN WALKED UP THE PATH TO MY DOOR AND I OPENED MY OWN DOOR, AS ONE DOES.

THIS GUY ACTED LIKE I HAD A LOT OF NERVE TO OPEN MY OWN DOOR.

HE TOLD ME THAT NO ONE COULD PARK IN MY DRIVEWAY THE WHOLE NEXT DAY.

I TOLD HIM THAT MY HOME WAS BUILT IN 1950 AND HE CUT ME OFF WITH I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND.

IN A CONDESCENDING WAY, AND I ASKED HIM HOW HE UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY WHEN I HADN'T SAID IT YET.

I TOLD HIM I HAD WORKERS IN A TRUCK FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THIS WEEK.

I ASKED HIM TO PLEASE TELL MY FOUR MEN HOW LONG HE NEEDED THE DRIVEWAY.

AND IT WAS MIRACULOUSLY CUT FROM ALL DAY TO FROM 11 TO 1 TO ME.

WHEN I INTRODUCED HIM TO MY WORKMEN, HE CHANGED IT TO SAYING A VAGUE HALF HOUR BETWEEN 11 AND 1.

THE, THE DRIVEWAY WAS ACTUALLY CLOSED OFF AT 8:30 IN THE MORNING SO WE DID MISS THE WORK BEING DONE.

THIS PERSON WHO CAME WITH THE NOTE HE, I ASKED HIM FOR HIS NAME AND HE GAVE ME, HE SAID IT WAS HIS SIGNATURE AT THE BOTTOM.

I DO HAVE THE NOTE, THE NAME OF THE ENTERPRISE, WHICH I'M GRATEFUL IS STRAIGHT OUT OF FULLERTON BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO BAD MOUTH A LOCAL BUSINESS. THE SAME GUY ALSO PUT UP SIGNS IN THE STREET SAYING IT WAS CLOSED FOR DAYS THAT WERE ALREADY PAST. THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION AROUND THIS PROJECT.

I DON'T THINK THIS WAS OUR CITY MANAGER WHEN THIS STARTED.

A PART OF ME HESITATED TO COME DOWN HERE WITH EACH OBSERVATION.

BUT IF NOBODY EVER SPEAKS UP, THEN HOW ARE YOU GUYS SUPPOSED TO KNOW? YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE DOING THIS AND NOT DOING THE WORK.

THEY JUST COME AND SAY, WE'RE DOING A HELL OF A JOB.

WHERE'S OUR CHECK? I'LL BE SURPRISED. MR.. DO YOU KNOW PAZ GOMEZ? SHE'S WAVING HER. WOULD YOU TALK TO HER ABOUT THE SCHEDULING FOR THE LIGHTS? I THINK YOU'LL BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. HOW MANY MORE SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? ONE. SOME OF THE SPEAKERS FINISHED A LITTLE BIT EARLY.

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DEAR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. TONIGHT I CALL FOR THE ARREST OF MATT F BECAUSE HE ADMITTED THAT THE REPORT WAS HIS QUOTE.

OFFICER JIMMY DIDN'T HEAR HIS SCREAM, SO I WILL REMIND HIM, EVEN FOR ZACH F, HIS BROTHER WHO THREATENED A WAITRESS AT BROKEN YOLK.

THIS FAMILY HAS DEVELOPED A PATTERN. I CALL FOR THE ARREST OF MATT BARKLEY AND NICK LEONARD.

DELAWARE TO LET RUBEN AMARO MULLENDORE AND GRAYSON BUCKINGHAM FOR THEIR THREATS AGAINST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DURING A DOCTOR APPOINTMENT.

AS LONG AS POLICE ARE LOOKING FOR CRYSTAL BALL, THEN HE SHOULD BE TURNED IN.

RUBEN AMARO HAS ALREADY LIED ABOUT HIS NAME. THIS IS A RISK TO REPUTATION EDUCATION IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

I WILL CALL FOR THE REST OF MATT PADILLA AS A LIAR. I WILL CALL FOR THE REST OF JERRY GONZALEZ AS A FAKE LAWYER. CALL THE REST OF ALEX E FOR THE RECORDING. I DON'T WANT CALL FOR THE REST OF EVAN CAMPBELL FOR STALKING. I CALL FOR THE REST OF EVAN MURDOCK FOR GROPING. EVEN FOR NATHAN CORKILL, WHO INITIATED SEXUAL HARASSMENT. IN HIS WORDS, THERE HAS BEEN NO REMORSE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

THESE NAMES HAVE CHEATED AND LIED THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM. THE DUTIES TO UPHOLD THE LAW NOT ALLOW INTERFERENCE.

THESE NAMES HAVE BEEN SPIED IN CARLSBAD AND ARE NOT ALLOWED AT CIVIC MEETINGS ANYMORE, IN MY OPINION.

AS A REMINDER, AS NO SOLICITING IN OR NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN CARLSBAD, PLEASE STOP ASKING WHICH PARTY THEY WANT TO ATTEND.

THESE NAMES MAY BE REJECTED AT RESTAURANTS. IF THERE IS NO POLICE ACTIVITY, I'LL HAVE TO SUBPOENA.

THE CONCEPT IS THAT I NEED A HOME ADDRESS OR WORK ADDRESS, AND A RESTRAINING ORDER IS NEW TO ME.

THIS WILL BE A JUST SUBPOENA. ANY CARLSBAD EVENT IS WORSE FOR THE CITIZENS AND CONSTITUENTS OF CARLSBAD, NOT FOR THOSE WHO REFUSE THE LAW. WITH THAT, I WILL READ A POEM.

CALIFORNIA QUEEN. THE FLIRT THAT LANDED ROCK AND ROLL IS HERE.

THE BIKE RIDE THAT ROLLED THIS WAY, THE CARNIVAL SQUARE OFF.

THAT CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE. THE ROCK THAT ONCE WAS.

THE HAIR THAT CAUGHT MY EYES. THE LOOK THAT LANDED IN MY HEART. THE ROLE THAT ONCE WAS.

THE SHOULDERS THAT SHOWED THE NEW YOU. THE FINGERS THAT GAVE ME A NEW EDGE.

THE ROCK THAT ONCE WAS THE FEET. THE PRINCE AND THE CARNIVAL GROUNDS.

THE DANCE THAT SHAPED THE FOLLOWING. THE ROLE THAT ONCE WAS.

THE GIRL THAT WENT ALL IN ON THE FERRIS WHEEL. THE GIRL THAT CHANGED THE CONVERSATION. THE ROCK THAT ONCE WAS.

THE GIRL WITH THE PINK LIGHT. TREAT THE GIRL WITH THAT SMILE. THE ROLE THAT ONCE WAS.

THE GIRL THAT CAN SING. THE GIRL THAT GOT ME THE ROCK THAT ONCE WAS.

THE GIRL THAT TURNED INTO A GLOBAL PHENOMENON. THE GIRL THAT SHAPED ROCK AND ROLL ONE FAN AT A TIME. THE ROLE THAT ONCE WAS THE GIRL THAT WROTE PRISM.

A GIRL WHO FOUND MY HEART. THE ROCK THAT ONCE WAS THE ONLY CALIFORNIAN THAT MATTERED.

THE PINUP, THE ROLE THAT ONCE WAS, THE THOUGHTFUL INTENTION.

THE WOMAN WHO CROSSED MY MIND. AN EMAIL. THE ROCK AND ROLL IS HERE TO STAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS NUMBER ONE

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

WHAT TOPIC WERE YOU GOING TO BE DISCUSSING? SPEAKERS ON CONSENT.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CALL YOU IN JUST A MOMENT.

YOU'RE PART OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY. ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO NEEDS TO STEP AWAY FOR ONE OF THE ITEMS. IS THAT ACCURATE? I'M SORRY. OH, IT'S ITEM TEN.

OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. ANYBODY WISH TO PULL AN ITEM? MAKE A COMMENT ON AN ITEM? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? WE HAVE TWO. MARY LUCID SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

SORRY, I GOT TANGLED. SOMEBODY LEFT THEIR PAPER UP HERE.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I'M HERE TO BEG YOU TO PLEASE DO SOMETHING FOR THE SENIORS AT THE SENIOR CENTER WITH THE MONEY. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE DAYS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE OLD AND YOU'RE GOING TO REGRET THAT YOU DIDN'T HELP SENIORS OR YOU WEREN'T NICER TO SOMEONE. YOU CAN DO MORE. AND IF YOU DON'T THINK YOU CAN, I'D BE HAPPY

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I KNOW MR. KYLE LANCASTER IS IN THE BUILDING, AND I'M WILLING TO MEET WITH HIM TOO, AND I'M ALWAYS NICE TO HIM.

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR SENIORS, THAT YOU DON'T DO MORE. I KNOW YOU VOLUNTEER YOUR TIME AND YOU GET PAID LESS THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO MORE FOR SENIORS AND BRIGHTEN THEIR LIVES FOR AS LONG AS THEY'RE AROUND. I BRIGHTEN THE LIFE WHEN I LEAVE A ROOM OR WHEN I ENTER IT, BUT I BRING YOU VALID POINTS. THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T HAVE LETTUCE.

ATTENDANCE IS DOWN IN THE LUNCHROOM AT THE SENIOR CENTER IN CARLSBAD.

THERE'S NO NEED FOR THAT. HOW MUCH MONEY IS LETTUCE? HOW OFTEN DO YOU GO AND VISIT AND TALK TO SENIORS AT THE SENIOR CENTER? A QUICK RUN THROUGH IS FINE, AND I'M SURE THEY WERE VERY NICE TO YOU, BUT THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE.

THE AARP MAGAZINE POSTS ARTICLES OF INTEREST TO SENIORS, BUT THE STAFF AT THE SENIOR CENTER CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO CUT OUT OR COPY AN ARTICLE AND PUT IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

HOW LAZY IS THAT? I MEAN, I'M 80 YEARS OF AGE.

I HAVE MORE ENERGY FOR THE SENIOR CENTER THAN YOUR PAID EMPLOYEES.

REALLY? ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU DO ONE THING A MONTH.

THAT'S 12 THINGS FOR SENIORS. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXPENSIVE.

JUST DO SOMETHING. THE SENIORS NEED YOU. THEY RELY ON YOU.

THEY DEPEND ON YOU. YOU MAY THINK EVERYTHING IS OKAY, BUT IT'S NOT.

THANK YOU. DEBORAH NASH SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

THANK YOU. I'M A RESIDENT OF UNICORNIO STREET, AND I THINK NUMBER SEVEN ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY IS A VOTE ON WHETHER TO GO FORWARD WITH SOME TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES ON OUR STREET.

AND I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU WHEN YOU VOTE TO VOTE, YES IN FAVOR OF IT.

OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY ACTIVE. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE FILE FOR ENGINEERING AND TRAFFIC, IT'S IT COULD BE THREE INCHES THICK VERY EASILY.

THE HOMES ON OUR STREET ON UNICORNIO WERE ALL PUT IN PLACE AT A TIME WHERE THERE WAS A DEAD END AT THE END OF OUR STREET.

IT'S NOW A CREOLE DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT WENT IN, WE WERE PROMISED THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT FORGET US AND THAT THERE WOULD BE SAFETY MEASURES TAKEN AND AND THAT WE WOULDN'T BE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED.

BUT WE WERE. AND SO THE PEOPLE ON OUR STREET DID WHAT CITIZENS DO.

THEY PUT OUT LITTLE PLASTIC SIGNS WITH, YOU KNOW, MEN WITH SIGNS AND SLOW DOWN.

OF COURSE THEY HAD TO COME OUT OF THE STREET BECAUSE THEY WERE HAZARDOUS, BUT WE DID.

WE USED EVERY TOOL WE COULD, AND ONE OF THE TOOLS WAS TO COME TO THE CITY AND, AND ASK A NUMBER OF TIMES FOR HELP.

AND THE CITY DID COME OUT AND DO STUDIES. BUT OVER THE YEARS, THERE REALLY WEREN'T ANY SOLUTIONS THAT WE WERE PROVIDED WITH.

AND SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED NOW TO SEE THAT THE CITY HAS A SOLUTION FOR US.

AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO APPROVE IT. MANY OF THE PEOPLE ON OUR STREET THINK MORE SHOULD BE DONE, BUT STILL WE'RE OPEN AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE.

AND WE HOPE IT IT DOES GET DONE. THERE HAVE BEEN TWO SIGNIFICANT ACCIDENTS ON OUR STREETS SINCE WE LAST MET WITH THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER.

AND I KNOW IT WAS A CLOSE CALL LAST TIME. SO A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN HERE TODAY, BUT THEY COULDN'T BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULING OF SUMMER AND BEING GONE WITH THEIR KIDS FOR VACATION.

AND I'VE BEEN ASKED TO EXPRESS THAT WE OVERWHELMINGLY WOULD APPROVE OF THIS, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL APPROVE IT,

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THANK YOU, MISS BHAT-PATEL. DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I DO, THANK YOU. THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH UNICORNIO.

I'VE WALKED IT OR DRIVEN IT QUITE A BIT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND REPRESENTING, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THAT NUMEROUS TIMES FROM THE FIRST TIME I RAN, WHICH WAS BACK IN 2018 TO NOW.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND I'M SO EXCITED THAT WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND I DO HOPE THAT YOU'LL KEEP IN TOUCH AND LET ME KNOW HOW IT'S GOING.

AND IF YOU DO ALL FEEL THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED YOU KNOW WHERE TO FIND ME.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MOTION, PLEASE. MOVE. CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[9. MAYORAL APPOINTMENT OF ONE MEMBER TO THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES – Adoption of a resolution appointing one member to the Library Board of Trustees. (Staff contact: Morgen Fry, City Clerk) ]

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES. LALITHA NATRAJ.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BLACKBURN, MAYOR PRO TEM BHAT-PATEL AND COUNCIL MEMBER BURKHOLDER, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN AND COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY.

I'M LALITHA NATARAJ AND I'M INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES BECAUSE I BELIEVE STRONGLY IN THE CAREFUL AND THOUGHTFUL STEWARDING OF OUR LIBRARY, WHICH SERVES AS A VITAL THIRD SPACE WITHIN CARLSBAD.

IT IS A PREMIER GATHERING SPOT FOR ALL COMMUNITY USERS TO CONNECT WITH ONE ANOTHER AND ENRICH THEIR OWN LIVES THROUGH ACCESS TO MYRIAD FREE RESOURCES, INCLUDING ELECTRONIC AND PRINT MATERIALS, SEED COLLECTIONS, DIGITAL TECHNOLOGIES, AND INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED AND INCLUSIVE PROGRAMS FOR ALL AGE LEVELS. I HOLD A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN ENGLISH AND WOMEN'S STUDIES FROM UC BERKELEY AND AN MLIS FROM UCLA.

MOST OF MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS HAS BEEN CULTIVATED HERE IN NORTH COUNTY SAN DIEGO AS A PUBLIC LIBRARIAN IN ESCONDIDO I HELP FAMILIES OVERCOME LANGUAGE BARRIERS AND LONG HELD ANXIETIES RELATED TO LEARNING SO THAT THEY COULD DEVELOP THEIR COMFORT WITH THE LIBRARY SERVICES IN ADULT LITERACY.

I WORK CLOSELY WITH VOLUNTEER INSTRUCTORS TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC AND RECREATIONAL READING MATERIALS TO AID ADULT LEARNERS IN YOUTH SERVICES.

I DESIGNED AND DELIVERED EARLY LITERACY STORYTIMES TO ENGAGE PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS IN THE TASK OF READYING THEIR CHILDREN FOR SCHOOL.

THIS VALUABLE FACE TO FACE WORK WITH COMMUNITY USERS CONTINUES TO SERVE ME WELL AS AN ACADEMIC LIBRARIAN AT CAL STATE SAN MARCOS.

I UNDERSTAND INTIMATELY THE VALUE OF LIVED EXPERIENCE AND ITS IMPACT ON HOW PEOPLE SEEK AND EVALUATE INFORMATION BEYOND COLLEGE RESEARCH.

THE CRITICAL INFORMATION LITERACY CONCEPTS I TEACH STUDENTS EQUIP THEM WITH THE NECESSARY TOOLS THEY WILL NEED FOR PRODUCTIVE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.

I HAVE A STRONG SERVICE ORIENTATION IN LIBRARIANSHIP THROUGH PROFESSIONAL COMMITTEE WORK FOR THE CALIFORNIA LIBRARY ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION, AND THE ASSOCIATION FOR COLLEGE AND RESEARCH LIBRARIES, AND THROUGH OUR ACADEMIC GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE AT CAL STATE SAN MARCOS.

I'M INVOLVED IN STRATEGIC PLANNING AND CURRICULUM POLICY EVALUATION AND REVISION.

THESE RELATIONAL, DELIBERATIVE PROCESSES HAVE PRIMED ME WELL TO COLLABORATE WITH PEOPLE WHO POSSESS A DIVERSE RANGE OF OPINIONS.

ULTIMATELY, I'VE LEARNED THAT CENTURY OUR COMMUNITIES AND ALL WE DO HELPS TO MITIGATE TENSION AND SHIFT US TOWARDS SOLUTIONS.

STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF YOU, I THINK BACK ON MY OWN CHILDHOOD AS AN IMMIGRANT IN L.A.

COUNTY IN THE 1980S WITH VERY LITTLE MONEY. MY FOLKS SAW THE LIBRARY AS A REFUGE, AND MY SISTER AND I WOULD SPEND HOURS SITTING ON THE VIBRANT, HOPSCOTCH PATTERNED CARPET, PORING THROUGH FAIRY TALES AND JUDY BLUME.

I KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT THE LIBRARY MADE US. SHE'S A PUBLISHED AUTHOR AND EDITOR, AND I'M A LIBRARIAN.

ALL THIS TO SAY, THE ROLE OF LIBRARY TRUSTEE IS A FULL CIRCLE OPPORTUNITY AND RESPONSIBILITY, WHERE I HOPE TO GIVE BACK TO CARLSBAD BY SHARING PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE AND BEING A COMMITTED CIVIC PARTICIPANT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS AND I HAD THREE.

I USUALLY RATE THEM EXCELLENT. GOOD AND NOT SO GOOD.

AND I HAD THREE COME OUT AS EXCELLENT, WHICH IS USUALLY UNUSUAL.

USUALLY I JUST GET 1 OR 2. SO THIS WAS A REALLY HARD DECISION TO MAKE.

AND THE OTHER APPLICANTS, I HOPE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO APPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME GREAT SKILLS.

AND I JUST, UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN ONLY PICK ONE.

AND THE ONE I'M PICKING TODAY IS THE. DID I SAY IT CLOSE?

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THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? MISS BHAT-PATEL? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR APPLYING.

AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW MISS NATRAJ OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE YOU APPLY.

AND CONGRATULATIONS. OKAY, THAT'S MY MOTION. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM. NEXT IS ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION.

[10. ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH ALL-WAY STOP CONTROL AT THE INTERSECTION OF TAMARACK AVENUE AND SUNNYHILL DRIVE – Introduction of an ordinance amending Sections 10.28.090 and 10.28.590 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code to establish all-way stop control at the intersection of Tamarack Avenue and Sunnyhill Drive. (Staff contact: John Kim, Public Works) ]

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAS TO RECUSE HERSELF.

YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. I OWN REAL PROPERTY ON SUNNY HILL, SO THANK YOU.

AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE FOR THE PRESENTATION CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER JOHN KIM.

THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL.

THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCES.

I'LL READ THEM ONE AT A TIME. THE FIRST ONE IS THE INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE FOR AN ALWAYS STOP CONTROL AT THE INTERSECTION OF TAMARACK AVENUE AND SUNNY HILL DRIVE. STAFF ANALYZED THIS LOCATION USING GUIDELINES FOUND IN THE CALIFORNIA MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

AND BASED ON OUR FINDINGS, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ALL WAY STOP CONTROL AT THESE AT THIS INTERSECTION.

THE ORDINANCE WILL BE EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER ADOPTION AND THE STOP SIGNS CAN BE INSTALLED VIA WORK ORDER AFTER THAT, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES, WE HAVE TWO. PETER COLE.

MAYOR BLACKBURN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS PETER COLE.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY COMMISSION, REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE.

AT OUR MAY MEETING, I WAS THE ONLY YES VOTE FOR INSTALLING A FOUR WAY STOP AT TAMARACK AND SUNNY HILL.

ACCORDING TO MR. KIM, CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, HIS DEPARTMENT RECEIVED OVER 100 REQUESTS FOR INSTALLING FOUR WAY STOPS.

HIS STAFF DID EXTENSIVE REVIEWS AND ONLY SIX INTERSECTIONS WERE CHOSEN THAT MET THE COMPREHENSIVE WARRANTS.

STAFF RELIES ON FACTS. COMMISSIONERS AT TIMES MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON EMOTIONS.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE COMMISSIONER FELT THE CITY ALREADY HAD TOO MANY STOP SIGNS AND DRIVERS WOULD PROBABLY RUN IT.

THIS IS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A CRITERION FOR NON-APPROVAL.

I SPENT ABOUT 30 MINUTES AT THE INTERSECTION.

AND REALIZED WHY IT IS IN THE GROUP OF SIX. SOME DRIVERS FAIL TO YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS IN THE FLASHING BEACON CONTROLLED CROSSWALK, DRIVERS GOING SOUTHBOUND ON SUNNY HILL WANTING TO TURN LEFT OR EASTBOUND OR GO STRAIGHT FACE EXTREMELY POOR SIGHT DISTANCES FROM THE RIGHT EASTBOUND TAMARACK AND MUST DEAL WITH WESTBOUND SPEEDING TRAFFIC COMING DOWN THE HILL. PEDESTRIANS WANTING TO CROSS TAMARACK WILL BE SAFER BASED ON THESE FACTORS ALONE. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO DISREGARD THE COMMISSION NO VOTE AND ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. JEAN WALKER.

HI. I TRAVELED THIS AREA OF TAMARACK REGULARLY AND THERE'S ALREADY BEEN.

I THINK IT'S FIVE SPEED BUMPS PUT IN BETWEEN THE TOP OF TAMARACK AT THE TOP OF THE HILL THERE AND DOWN NEAR THE VONS,

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IT ALSO IMPACTS HOW FAST YOU CAN GO UP THE STREET AS WELL.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S THE EAGLE EYE THING AT VALLEY THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO IF IT'S BLINKING AS OPPOSED TO A SOLID RED AS OPPOSED TO NOTHING.

I DON'T THINK MY COLLEGE AGE BOYS WHO ARE DRIVING ON TAMARACK UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT THING IS.

IT'S VERY CONFUSING ADDING THIS IN TO THE MIX JUST MAKES EVERYTHING MORE CONFUSING AND TAKES UP MORE TIME IN EVERYONE'S COMMUTE. I WOULD INSTEAD ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO DO MORE PATROLS IN THE AREA, GIVE OUT TICKETS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEEDING, OR WHO ARE GOING THROUGH THE STOP SIGN JUST BELOW SUNNY HILL OR JUST ABOVE SUNNY HILL AT SKYLINE.

IT'S ONE BLOCK AWAY, SO YOU DON'T NEED THE TWO STOP SIGNS ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM EACH OTHER EITHER.

AND I WOULD NOTE THAT THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION HAD A NO VOTE ON THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. IS THAT A HAND UP? OKAY.

MISS ACOSTA. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. KIM, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND THANKS TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE PROVIDED COMMENTS.

MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HIGH, HIGH VISIBILITY MARKINGS.

WHAT? WHAT ARE THOSE? WHAT WOULD THOSE BE? BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE RAISED PART WILL BE REMOVED, BUT THERE WILL BE HIGH. THE HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALK MARKINGS WILL BE THE.

THEY'RE CALLED THE CONTINENTAL STYLE, WHICH ARE ZEBRA STRIPES.

AND THEY WILL BE IN THERMOPLASTIC. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CALL AS HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALKS.

OKAY. AND NO FLASHING BEACONS ANYMORE OR, AND NO SOUNDS.

THERE'S NO NO BEACON, NO RAPID FLASHING BEACONS OR SOUNDS.

RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT. THE RAPID FLASHING BEACONS ARE RESERVED FOR UNCONTROLLED PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS.

AND WE HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE CONTROL SUCH AS STOP.

WE CANNOT USE FLASHING BEACONS. OKAY, GREAT. SO IT WILL BE JUST A TRADITIONAL ALWAYS STOP WITH STOP SIGNS.

IS THERE ANY EFFORT PLANNED TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS EXTRA EDUCATION ONCE THESE ARE INSTALLED OR.

I KNOW THAT DOOR HANGERS WERE ALREADY DISTRIBUTED IN ADVANCE OF THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING THESE.

BUT HOW DO WE GET OUT THE INFORMATION? MAYBE IT'S IN THE CITY MANAGER NEWSLETTER OR.

I'M NOT SURE. WE CAN WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THE RESIDENTS.

WE CAN ALSO CONSIDER PUTTING IN STOP AHEAD SIGNS AS ANOTHER TRAFFIC CONTROL MEASURE THAT ALERTS DRIVERS THAT THERE IS A STOP SIGN.

FROM TIME TO TIME, WHEN WE INSTALL NEW STOP SIGNS IN THIS WAY, WE WILL.

WE SOMETIMES WILL PUT AN ANNOUNCEMENT HIGHER UP THE ROAD TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THIS.

THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE. AS IT STANDS NOW, THERE'S A SPEED CUSHION AT THE BOTTOM OF A HILL, AND WE'VE HAD KIDS CRASH ON THEIR BIKES AND VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, LEAP OVER IT. THIS WILL BE A CORRECTION, I THINK, IN THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION TO TO IMPROVE THIS AREA.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER. MRS BHAT-PATEL. YES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR THOSE THAT HAVE EMAILED US OR YOU KNOW, SPOKE TODAY.

I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE WITH REGARDS TO COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SHARING A LITTLE BIT AROUND THAT DURING THE TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY COMMISSION MEETING, ESPECIALLY SINCE I KNOW TODAY WE SEEM TO HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS HERE, BUT JUST WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT FOLKS WERE SAYING ON THE GROUND.

TYPICALLY AND NOT JUST AT THIS LOCATION, BUT OTHER LOCATIONS WILL GET BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY.

RESIDENTS SUPPORTING A PROPOSAL AND RESIDENTS NOT SUPPORTING A PROPOSAL.

WE BASE OUR DECISIONS ON ENGINEERING DATA AND BASED ON THE OBSERVATIONS THAT STAFF HAS MADE, ESPECIALLY THE AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY THAT WAS MEASURED AT THE INTERSECTION, STAFF FELT THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER STOP CONTROL AT THIS INTERSECTION.

THANK YOU. COMMENTS. MR.. MR.. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I THE CURRENT SETUP THAT IT HAS RIGHT NOW SEEMS TO BE CONFUSING AT TIMES, AND ESPECIALLY FOR FOLKS THAT ARE VISITING ARE UNSURE WHAT'S GOING ON.

I THINK A CLASSIC MULTI STOP SIGN AREA IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.

AND SO THAT'S I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION. MISS ACOSTA, THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PERSPECTIVES ON THIS.

IT'S CLEARLY NOT WORKING AS IT IS NOW AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE.

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YES. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I TO SUPPORT IT.

I, I KNOW I'VE HEARD SO MANY STORIES AROUND THIS, WHETHER IT'S CURRENT OR FROM THE PAST.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CHANGE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING HOW IT'S GOING.

IF YOU ALL COULD UPDATE US SOMETIME SOON AND JUST LET US KNOW WHAT THE CHANGE HAS DONE IN TERMS OF HOW FOLKS ARE FEELING AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC AND JUST, YOU KNOW, MOVEMENT IN THAT CORRIDOR. I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL KNOWING THAT YEARS AND YEARS AGO, I USED TO GO THROUGH THIS YOU KNOW, AREA A LOT TO GO TO HIGH SCHOOL.

I HAVE TO SAY, I TOO WAS IN AN ACCIDENT THAT SOMEONE HAD, YOU KNOW, RAMMED INTO ME A LONG TIME AGO AND IT WAS NOT FUN.

SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT CORRIDOR SO MUCH SAFER OVER THE YEARS AND CONTINUING TO DO THAT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. SOMETIMES JUST COMMON SENSE IS ALL WE NEED.

THE SPEED HUMP THAT'S AT THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW IF YOU'RE GOING THE SPEED LIMIT AND YOU HIT IT, YOU'RE GOING TO BOTTOM OUT. SO IT DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.

IT IT TELLS YOU THIS IS THE SPEED LIMIT, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO ALMOST COME TO A STOP BECAUSE OF THESE.

THIS SPEED HUMP IN PARTICULAR WAS A VERY ABRUPT ONE.

HEARD FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I SAID SOMETHING TO THE CITY MANAGER, AND THE CITY MANAGER SAID, GUESS WHAT? IT'S COMING. IT'S COMING BEFORE YOU SOON. SO THANK YOU FOR HEADING THIS OFF.

BEING RECOGNIZING IT BEFORE I EVEN SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT INTERSECTION.

SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT. NEED A MOTION PLEASE.

YES. MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES. RECOGNIZE THAT MISS BURKHOLDER HAD TO RECUSE HERSELF.

CAN WE INVITE HER BACK? OH, HERE SHE COMES.

ITEM NUMBER 11, CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH ALL WAY STOP CONTROL AT INTERSECTIONS OF BATIQUITOS DRIVE AND AVIARA DRIVE,

[11. ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH ALL-WAY STOP CONTROL AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF BATIQUITOS DRIVE AND AVIARA DRIVE AND AT LA COSTA AVENUE AND CAMINO DE LOS COCHES – Introduction of an ordinance amending Sections 10.28.325 and adding Sections 10.28.154, 10.28.155 and 10.28.156 of the Carlsbad Municipal Code to establish all-way stop control at the intersections of Batiquitos Drive and Aviara Drive and at La Costa Avenue and Camino De Los Coches. (Staff contact: John Kim, Public Works)]

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER, JOHN KIM.

JOHN. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. SIMILARLY, THE NEXT TWO LOCATIONS ARE INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE FOR ALL WAY STOP CONTROL AT BATIQUITOS DRIVE AND AVIARA DRIVE AND AT LA COSTA AVENUE AND CAMINO DE LOS COCHES.

THESE TWO LOCATIONS WERE ANALYZED USING THOSE GUIDELINES IN THE CALIFORNIA MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

AND THEN, BASED ON OUR FINDINGS, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ALL WAY STOP CONTROL AT THESE TWO INTERSECTIONS.

THE ORDINANCE WILL GO INTO EFFECT 30 DAYS AFTER ADOPTION, AND THE STOP SIGNS CAN BE INSTALLED VIA WORK ORDER AFTER THAT.

BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

MISS BHAT-PATEL. YES. THANK YOU. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION.

EXCITED TO SEE THIS. AND REALLY QUICKLY WITH, WITH REGARDS TO YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THIS INSTALLATION, I'M ASSUMING WE WILL HAVE SOME FORM OF PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

OR WILL THERE JUST BE MARKINGS FOR THE STOP SIGN AND THE LIMIT LINE FOR THE STOP SIGN SPECIFICALLY? TYPICALLY WE'LL INSTALL HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALKS WHERE THERE IS ADA ACCESS AVAILABLE.

BUT FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE INTERSECTION OF LA COSTA AND CAMINO DE LOS COCHES, WE DON'T HAVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.

AND SO WE WOULDN'T MARK CROSSWALKS. THEY WOULD BE STOP CONTROLLED VIA WORK ORDER.

AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A PROJECT TO INSTALL PEDESTRIAN RAMPS.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME WE WOULD PUT IN THE HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALKS.

OKAY. YEAH. THE ONE ESPECIALLY, AND I'M AWARE, AND THANK YOU FOR DETAILING THAT, THAT I WAS ASKING FOR WAS BATIQUITOS DRIVE AND AVIARA JUST BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS WILL CROSS THAT AREA, NOT ONLY FROM THE HOTEL THERE, BUT ALSO FOLKS THAT LIVE IN AND AROUND THAT AREA ARE GOING TO THE LAGOON SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT SINCE FOLKS ARE KIND OF MAKING THEIR OWN MAKESHIFT CROSSWALK RIGHT NOW.

SO I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA DETAIL ON THAT. THANK YOU.

MISS ACOSTA. I SAW THE HANDS START TO GO UP. OKAY.

COMMENTS. MR.. SHIN. JUST DRIVEN BY THE KIDDOS FOR SO LONG THAT I.

YOU REALLY DO REALIZE HOW QUICK OF A ROAD THAT IS AND IT SHOULDN'T BE.

SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD AND SAFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND I'LL END UP SUPPORTING BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS.

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THERE'S A LOT OF INTERACTION BETWEEN PEDESTRIANS TRYING TO CROSS THE STREET AND CARS AND NEAR MISSES.

SO IF THERE HAVE NOT BEEN COLLISIONS, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF NEAR MISSES AND FRIGHTENED PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME FOR YEARS NOW ABOUT BOTH OF THESE AREAS.

SO I'M VERY, VERY PLEASED. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE SAFER AND HAPPIER TO HAVE THESE IN HERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. MISS BHAT-PATEL.

YEAH. THANK YOU. I'M, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, VERY EXCITED TO SEE THESE.

I KNOW I'VE ALREADY RECEIVED A LOT OF PLEASE SUPPORT THIS AND WE THANK YOU FOR MOVING IT FORWARD.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS BEING PRIORITIZED.

I THINK THIS WILL DEFINITELY HELP IN BOTH THESE AREAS BECAUSE I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH BOTH AND I THINK IT'LL REALLY HELP.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. MOTION, PLEASE. YES. MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 12. CITY MANAGER.

[12. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TRANSNET LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEARS 2026-27 THROUGH 2030-31 – 1) Hold a public hearing; and 2) Adoption of a resolution approving the Carlsbad TransNet Local Street Improvement Program of Projects for fiscal years 2026-27 through 2030-31 for inclusion in the 2027 San Diego Association of Governments Regional Transportation Improvement Program. (Staff contact: Mariel Cairns, Public Works) ]

TO GIVE A PRESENTATION, WE HAVE OUR PRINCIPAL ENGINEER, MARIEL CAIRNS.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AS INTRODUCED, THIS ITEM INCLUDES A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY'S TRANSNET LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEARS 2026 27 TO 20 3031. TRANSNET IS A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY THE SAN DIEGO ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS, OR SANDAG, AND THE PROGRAM PROVIDES FUNDING FROM THE HALF CENT COUNTY WIDE SALES TAX THAT VOTERS FIRST APPROVED IN 1987 FOR LOCAL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

SANDAG ESTIMATES THAT THE CITY WILL RECEIVE ABOUT $5.1 MILLION IN TRANSNET REVENUE FOR LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WITH AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 2.5% EACH YEAR IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

TO USE TRANSNET FUNDING, CITIES AND OTHER MEMBER AGENCIES OF SANDAG ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND SUBMIT TO SANDAG, AN APPROVED FIVE YEAR PROGRAM OF PROJECTS EVERY TWO YEARS.

THESE PROGRAMS WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO SANDAG 2027 REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, OR RTIP. THE CITY'S FIVE YEAR PROGRAM OF PROJECTS ARE THE SAME TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26-27 BUDGET FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, OR CIP, RECENTLY ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE CIP TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS LISTED IN THE PROGRAM OF PROJECTS ARE THOSE THAT WILL USE FUNDS FROM TRANSNET, AS WELL AS FUNDING FROM FEDERAL OR STATE GRANTS AND THOSE THAT ARE REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT AND CAPACITY INCREASING.

SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROGRAM OF PROJECTS, STAFF WILL SUBMIT THE RESOLUTION TO SANDAG AS REQUIRED.

THE SANDAG BOARD IS SCHEDULED TO ADOPT THE 2027 RTIP IN SEPTEMBER, WITH FEDERAL APPROVAL EXPECTED IN DECEMBER.

AND AS A REMINDER, THIS ITEM INCLUDES A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS ARE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CITY'S FIVE YEAR TRANSNET LOCAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF OF PROJECTS, AS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL DISCUSSION. MR. SHIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND JUST YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR US, FOR SANDAG. I JUST I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE TRANSNET TAXES.

AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN A GREAT AMOUNT OF CHANGE SINCE SINCE OUR TIME HAS BEEN THERE RECENTLY ON SANDAG.

I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO WORK MORE SEAMLESSLY THROUGH IN ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH A GRANT THAT WAS RECEIVED THAT KIND OF HAD A BIT OF A DELAY ON

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ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MISS ACOSTA. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SHIN, FOR SERVING AND YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE 78 5.

I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER TO STAFF THAT THAT'S THE THING THAT I HEAR THE MOST COMPLAINTS ABOUT IN OUR AREA IS THAT INTERCHANGE BETWEEN THE 78 AND THE 5.

WE HAVE TO GET THAT FIXED. BUT I UNDERSTAND TONIGHT'S ITEM IS FOCUSED ON ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITHIN THE CITY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MOTION PLEASE.

MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER 13. CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU. ITEM 13 IS THE CARLSBAD PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVES UPDATE.

[13. CARLSBAD PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVES UPDATE – Receive an update from the Carlsbad resident representatives serving on the County of San Diego Palomar Airport Advisory Committee. (Staff contact: Jason Haber, City Manager)]

JASON. THANK YOU, MR. PATERNO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

JASON HABER, CITY'S INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR.

SO THIS ITEM IS TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE, INFORMATIONAL UPDATE FROM THE CITY'S RESIDENT REPRESENTATIVES THAT SERVE ON THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO'S PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE PAAC IS ADVISORY TO THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTY CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER ON MATTERS RELATING TO PALOMAR AIRPORT. THE DUTIES OF THE PAAC INCLUDE TO REVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING ISSUES PERTAINING TO NOISE CONTROL AT PALOMAR AIRPORT, LAND USE WITHIN THE PALOMAR AIRPORT.

INFLUENCE AREA, ISSUES PERTAINING TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATIONS AT PALOMAR AIRPORT, AND TO PROVIDE AN OPEN FORUM BETWEEN THE COMMUNITIES AFFECTED BY PALOMAR AIRPORT AND THE COUNTY ON MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE AIRPORT, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT MAY BE ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THE PAAC MEMBERSHIP FRAMEWORK IS A COMMITTEE COMPRISED OF NINE MEMBERS.

THE DISTRICT THREE SUPERVISOR IS ASSIGNED TO NOMINATE FOUR MEMBERS TO THE PAAC.

THE DISTRICT FIVE SUPERVISOR IS ALSO ASSIGNED TO MAKE FOUR NOMINATIONS TO THE PAAC.

YOU CAN SEE HERE FOR THE DISTRICT THREE SUPERVISORS NOMINEES.

TWO OF THOSE ARE REQUIRED TO BE CARLSBAD RESIDENTS AND TWO CAN BE AT LARGE DISTRICT THREE RESIDENTS.

CURRENTLY, ONE OF THOSE AT LARGE DISTRICT THREE SEATS IS VACANT.

THE TERMS OF ALL OF THE NOMINEES NOMINATED BY THE DISTRICT THREE SUPERVISOR RUN CONCURRENT WITH THE TERM OF THAT SUPERVISOR THEREFORE, THROUGH JANUARY 8TH, 2029, THE DISTRICT FIVE SUPERVISORS NOMINEES INCLUDE RESIDENT REPRESENTATIVES FROM OCEANSIDE, VISTA AND SAN MARCOS AND ONE FROM DISTRICT FIVE AT LARGE, AND THEIR TERMS ALSO RUN CONCURRENT WITH THAT SUPERVISOR'S TERM OF OFFICE.

THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICERS NOMINEE IS INDICATED TO BE AN INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVE WITH AN EXPRESS EXPERIENCE IN WITH, AT PALOMAR AIRPORT, IN AN AIRPORT, AVIATION OR AERONAUTICAL BUSINESS OPERATION, AND AN EXPLICIT INTEREST IN THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE AIRPORT AND THE TERM OF THAT MEMBER ALSO EXPIRES JANUARY 8TH OF 2029.

FOR ALL OF THE REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE INDICATED AS CITY REPRESENTATIVES, THE CITIES THEMSELVES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY RESIDENTS TO BE NOMINATED AS CANDIDATES, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, THOSE APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE BY THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

SO IN 2023, THE CITY COUNCIL IDENTIFIED SHIRLEY ANDERSON AND GARY GREENING TO SERVE AS THE CITY OF CARLSBAD RESIDENT REPRESENTATIVES, TO BE NOMINATED AND APPOINTED TO THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THEY BOTH ARE SERVING CURRENTLY ON THE PAAC, AND I'M HAPPY TO INTRODUCE THEM TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THEIR UPDATE ON THEIR EXPERIENCE SERVING ON THE PAAC, AND PARTICULARLY THEIR EXPERIENCE SERVING ON THE VOLUNTARY NOISE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE PAAC.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INVITE MISS ANDERSON AND MR. GREENING TO THE PODIUM TO PROVIDE YOUR UPDATE.

YEAH, I'LL GO FIRST. THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.

MY NAME IS GARY GREENING. AS YOU HEARD ON, I AM A MEMBER OF THE PAAC COMMITTEE.

I'M ALSO THE CHAIR FOR A NEWLY FORMED SUBCOMMITTEE, AND OUR WHOLE SUBCOMMITTEE'S PURPOSE WAS BASICALLY TO STUDY THE VOLUNTARY NOISE

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WE PRESENTED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON MARCH 15TH, AND THE PAAC UNANIMOUSLY ACCEPTED AND URGED THE COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT. TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO SUMMARIZE OUR FINDINGS, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE COUNTY CURRENT IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE. OUR KEY FINDINGS IN ANALYSIS COVERED 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT AREAS.

ONE OF THEM WAS THE SEVERELY OUTDATED PILOT EDUCATION MATERIALS.

THE EXISTING MATERIALS WERE INCONSISTENT, INCOMPLETE, CONFUSING AND NOT ALIGNED WITH TODAY'S AIRCRAFT MIX OR COMMUNITY NOISE IMPACTS. A NOISE COMPLAINT SYSTEM THAT THE PUBLIC CONSTANTLY COMPLAINS ABOUT IS THAT THE RESIDENTS RECEIVE A NO CONFIRMATION, NO CASE NUMBERS, NO FOLLOW UP, AND THEY MAKE IT VERY IMPOSSIBLE TO TRACK VARIOUS ISSUES OR TRENDS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

ANOTHER FINDING WAS THAT THERE'S NO RECOGNITION BASED INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR THE PILOTS.

OTHER AIRPORTS, INCLUDING VAN NUYS AIRPORT, HAVE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED A NOISE PROGRAM CALLED FLY FRIENDLY, WHERE THEY REWARD AND RECOGNIZE THE OPERATORS.

PALOMAR HAS NO EQUIVALENT. WE, IN OUR ANALYSIS OF PERFORMANCE DATA THAT THE COUNTY PRESENTS.

WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A 34% INCREASE OF JET TRAFFIC DURING VNAP HOURS OVER LAST YEAR.

SO THE COMMUNITY OBVIOUSLY IS EXPERIENCING A LOT MORE TRAFFIC DURING QUIET HOURS AND THE NOISE IMPACT.

THE LAST ITEM THAT WE FOUND WAS AN OUTDATED FAA PART 150 NOISE COMPATIBILITY STUDY.

THE CURRENT STUDY PREDATES TODAY'S JET ACTIVITY, THE POPULATION GROWTH AND THE FLEET MIX.

IT NO LONGER REALLY REFLECTS THE REAL WORLD CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR LOCAL AIRPORT.

SO SUMMARIZING THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AFTER THIS NINE MONTHS OF ANALYSIS DISCUSSION WE HAD ON OUR COMMITTEE, WE HAD FOUR PILOTS AND FOUR PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING SOME MEMBERS OF THE AIRPORT STAFF SO WE HAD A GOOD MIX OF INPUTS. LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT WE WERE REVIEWING, WE RECOMMENDED, FIRST OF ALL TO MODERNIZE ALL PILOT EDUCATION MATERIALS, CREATE A CLEAR, CONCISE, CONSISTENT GUIDANCE WITH UPDATED GRAPHICS AND A SINGLE AUTHORITATIVE SOURCE FOR THE PILOTS AND THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS. WE ALSO RECOMMENDED UPGRADING THE NOISE COMPLAINT SYSTEM.

WE WILL URGE THEM TO ADD AUTOMATED CONFIRMATIONS, CASE NUMBERS, MONTHLY PUBLIC REPORTING.

AND WE ALSO WOULD ASK THEM TO DO SOME TO PUT ON BOARD A FULL TIME NOISE ABATEMENT SPECIALIST TO MANAGE THIS, WHICH OUR AIRPORT IS LACKING. ANOTHER ITEM WAS TO IMPLEMENT A FLY FRIENDLY PROGRAM AND MODEL IT AFTER VAN NUYS AIRPORT, WHERE WE USED A SINGLE NOISE EVENT DATA THAT THE COUNTY GATHERS FROM THEIR NOISE MONITORS.

AND BASED UPON SCORING, WE RECOGNIZE THE PILOTS WHO HAVE BEST ACHIEVED IT AND GIVE THEM AWARDS RECOGNITION.

AND ACTUALLY IT'S WORKED EXTREMELY WELL WITH VAN NUYS AND SEVERAL OTHER AIRPORTS WE'VE TALKED TO.

WE ASKED THEM TO PUBLISH MONTHLY SINGLE NOISE EVENT AND NOISE CONTOUR DATA TO IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY AND ALLOW THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY TO TRACK EVENTS. CURRENTLY, THEY ONLY PUBLISH WHAT'S CALLED [INAUDIBLE], WHICH IS COMMUNITY NOISE, WHICH IS AVERAGED OVER A 30 DAY PERIOD AND REALLY DOES NOT ILLUSTRATE THE THE TREND OF THE NOISE AND THE SEVERITY OF IT.

LAST, WE ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD UPDATE THE PART 150 FAA STUDY TO ENSURE NOISE CONTOUR MAPS A LONG TERM PLANNING TO REFLECT CURRENT OPERATIONS AND COMMUNITIES ACTUAL CONDITIONS.

SO WORKING WITH THE AIRPORT MANAGER AND MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AFTER OUR PRESENTATION, IT'S BEEN NOW BASICALLY A LITTLE OVER TWO MONTHS.

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ON THE PILOT EDUCATION MODERNIZATION WE CAME UP AND DESIGNED A FULL NEW BROCHURE AND FLIER TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE PILOTS, AND THEY CURRENTLY ARE NOW EDITING IT TO CHANGE THE MATERIALS.

SO THEY, IT COORDINATES WITH THE FAA RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT NO TIMELINE HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR THE ACTUAL PUBLICATION.

THE NOISE COMPLAINT SYSTEM THAT I MENTIONED, THEY SAID IT'S APPROVED AND IT'S IN DEVELOPMENT.

THE COUNTY IS WORKING WITH THEIR IT DEPARTMENT AND TRYING TO UPDATE THE WEB PAGES AND CASE NUMBERS AND STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.

BUT AGAIN, NO COMPLETION DATES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.

THE MONTHLY SNEL, WHICH IS A SINGLE NOISE EVENT AND NOISE CONTOUR REPORTING.

THEY SAID IT'S STILL PENDING AND THE COUNTY AGREES IN PRINCIPLE, BUT IS TRYING TO DEFINE THE WORKFLOW.

THE FLY FRIENDLY INCENTIVE PROGRAM WHERE WE SET UP THE PILOTS AND ACTUALLY MAKE AWARDS.

THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS A DEFINITELY A GOOD IDEA AND THEY WOULD SUPPORT IT, BUT THEY SAID THEY NEED STAFF AND BUDGET RESOURCES BEFORE THEY CAN PROCEED. AND THEN THE LAST AREA, THE PART 150 UPDATE, THEY ADVISED US IT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION.

AND THE COUNTY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THAT THEY HAVE A NEED FOR IT.

BUT THEY SAID THIS IS A LONG TERM EFFORT AND IT COULD BE DELAYED FOR YEARS WITHOUT THE CITY'S SUPPORT.

SO ONE OF OUR THINGS TONIGHT IS I'M ASKING FOR THE CITY TO SUPPORT SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS SO WE ACTUALLY GET ACTION ON THEM.

THE. VARIOUS AREAS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, AND WE END UP WITH A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC.

AND WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM ABOUT 26 OR 27 HOA'S THAT COME TO OUR MEETINGS OR FIND US INDIVIDUALLY AND SAY, HELP US, HELP US WITH THIS NOISE ABATEMENT. IT'S GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

AND WE BRING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO WHY THIS MATTERS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL? CARLSBAD RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE THE MAJORITY OF THE AIRPORT NOISE IMPACTS BEING SO CLOSE.

MODERNIZING VOLUNTARY NOISE ABATEMENT PROCESS IS DIRECTLY RELEVANT TO THE CITY BECAUSE ONE, IT IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS.

IT INCREASES TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

IT ALIGNS WITH PALOMAR AIRPORT STATEWIDE BEST PRACTICES, AND IT ENSURES THE CITY HAS ACCURATE DATA FOR FUTURE PLANNING.

AND LAST, IT STRENGTHENS THE TRUST BETWEEN THE AIRPORT, THE COUNTY, AND THE COMMUNITY.

MANY OTHER AIRPORTS THAT WE DID ON OUR STUDY, WHICH WE HAD, I THINK A TOTAL OF 18 OTHER AIRPORTS WE CONTACTED TO FIND OUT HOW THEIR VNAP OR VOLUNTARY NOISE PROGRAMS WERE WORKING. THEY HAVE TAKEN MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE AND PROACTIVE APPROACHES AND HAVE SEEN MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND WE PRESENTED A LOT OF THIS DATA TO THE PAAC AND TO THE COUNTY TO SHOW THEM THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE CHARTS AND FIGURES THAT HAVING A GOOD NOISE ABATEMENT PROGRAM DOES MATTER. AND OVER A PERIOD OF A YEAR OR SO, THEY SAW A DROP IN THE NOISE LEVELS.

SO IN SUMMARY, THE. THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS COMPLETED A THOROUGH DATA DRIVEN REVIEW.

THE PAC HAS UNANIMOUSLY ENDORSED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND URGED THE COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD.

THE COUNTY HAS ACCEPTED THEM IN PRINCIPLE AND BECOME BEGAN SOME PARTIAL IMPLEMENTATION, THEY ADVISED US.

HOWEVER, NO TIMELINES, COMPLETION TARGETS OR ESTIMATED DATES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO US, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THESE ITEMS ARE ALL BEING STALLED. THE CITY'S ENGAGEMENT IS ESSENTIAL TO ENSURE THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ACTUALLY DELIVERED.

MODERNIZING VNAP WILL IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY, REDUCE COMMUNITY FRUSTRATION, BRING PALOMAR IN LINE WITH SUCCESSFUL NOISE ABATEMENT PROGRAMS ACROSS CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SUPPORT.

SHIRLEY, YOU GOT TO FINISH. THE NEXT ITEM THAT WAS.

THAT WAS GREAT, GARY. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SHIRLEY ANDERSON.

HELLO TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MAYOR. I LIVED IN CARLSBAD FOR 16 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN ON THE PAAC SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2023.

I WANT TO START WITH TALKING ABOUT THE THREE SEPARATE SILOS THAT GOVERN THE AIRPORT.

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THE COUNTY IS THE OWNER OPERATOR, AND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD IS WHERE THE AIRPORT IS LOCATED AND PROVIDES SUPPORT SERVICES TO THE AIRPORT.

AND THIS EVENING, I AM GOING TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE 2025 SUBCOMMITTEE THAT BRINGS THESE THREE SEPARATE SILOS TOGETHER.

THIS IS THE PART 150 NOISE COMPATIBILITY PROGRAM.

WHY IT IS IMPORTANT? THE PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED UNDER TITLE 14 CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, PART 150. THE STUDY IS A VOLUNTEER, FAA FUNDED PROCESS THAT ALLOWS AIRPORT OPERATORS TO ASSESS, TO ASSESS AIRCRAFT NOISE EXPOSURE, MAP NOISE CONTOURS, AND DEVELOP MEASURES TO MITIGATE COMMUNITY IMPACTS.

THE PART 150 IS THE PRIMARY WAY FOR AIRPORTS TO ACCESS FEDERAL NOISE ABATEMENT FUNDING.

MANY MAJOR GENERAL AVIATION AND RELIEVER AIRPORTS UTILIZE THEM.

UTILIZE THIS PROGRAM, AND PALOMAR AIRPORT IS ON THAT LIST.

THERE ARE 275 AIRPORTS ACROSS THE NATION THAT PARTICIPATE IN A VOLUNTEER NOISE COMPATIBILITY PROCESS, AND MANY OF THOSE HAVE HAD THEIR PROGRAMS UPDATED.

THE VNAP IS A PART OF THE IS A PRODUCT OF THE PART 150 COMPATIBILITY PROGRAM.

THE COUNTY CREATED IT, THEN IT WAS APPROVED AND SIGNED OFF BY THE FAA.

PALOMAR AIRPORT APPROVAL FOR THE PROGRAM WAS IN DECEMBER OF 2006, NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO.

WITH THE OPERATIONAL EXPANSION AND MORE COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS AND RESIDENTIAL INFILL, THE PART 150 NEEDS A, NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. CURRENTLY, THE AIRPORT HAS SIX NOISE MONITOR, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST TEN FOR AN AIRPORT OF THIS SIZE.

I WANT TO BREAK DOWN WHAT IS MEANT BY THE NOISE EXPOSURES FROM CNEL TO SNEL.

THE CNEL STANDS FOR THE COMMUNITY EQUIVALENT LEVEL AND IT IS WHAT THE COUNTY USES.

IT IS A METRIC USED TO ASSESS NOISE EXPOSURE IN COMMUNITIES NEAR PALOMAR.

IT HELPS PREVENT IT. IT HELPS IN EVALUATING THE IMPACT OF AIRPORT NOISE ON RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

THE MEASUREMENT CONSIDERS NOISE LEVELS WEIGHTED OVER A 24 HOUR PERIOD.

SNEL STANDS FOR SOUND NOISE EXPOSURE LEVEL. THE COUNTY HAS THE DATA FOR BOTH METRICS FOR MEASURING THE NOISE.

THEY PREFER TO USE THE NOISE LEVEL WEIGHTED OVER 24 HOURS.

WHEN YOU USE THE THE SOUND NOISE EXPOSURE LEVEL, THIS PERTAINS TO A SINGLE EXPOSURE LEVEL OF AN AIRCRAFT OCCURRENCE, WHICH MEANS THE SNEL MEASURES THE DECIBEL LEVEL OF EACH EVENT.

IT IS NOT WEIGHTED. THE PURPOSE OF TRACKING COMPATIBILITY DATA, IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT HELPS DEVELOP NOISE COMPATIBILITY PLANS AND STRATEGIES. THE GOAL IS TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF AIRPORT NOISE IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE CITY OF CARLSBAD? COMMUNITY NOISE COMPATIBILITY PLANNING FOR BEST LAND USE PRACTICES.

SO CARLSBAD IS BETTER PREPARED TO REACH THEIR RHNA REQUIREMENTS AND NOT DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IN AIRPORT NOISE IMPACTED AREAS.

A NEW PART, A NEW PART 150 NOISE COMPATIBILITY COMPATIBILITY STUDY WOULD CREATE NEW NOISE EXPOSURE MAPS.

THIS WOULD HELP THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WHEN PUTTING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT IS A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX FOR BETTER DEVELOPMENT PLANNING FOR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES EXPOSED TO AVIATION NOISE AND POLLUTION.

IN JANUARY OF 2010, THE CITY OF CARLSBAD ESTABLISHED THE THE MCCLELLAN-PALOMAR AIRPORT LAND USE COMPATIBILITY PLAN.

THIS OCCURRED WHILE PALOMAR AIRPORT WAS DESIGNATED AN FAA CLASSIFICATION B2 GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT.

THIS IS STILL THE DESIGNATION OF PALOMAR AIRPORT AS TODAY, BUT THE COUNTY IS PUSHING FORWARD WITH THEIR OPERATIONAL EXPANSION PLAN.

PALOMAR IS OPERATING AS A D2 COMMERCIAL AIRPORT, EVEN THOUGH THE DESIGNATION BY THE FAA IS A B-2, THE D-3 ALLOWS HEAVIER AIRCRAFT WITH LONGER WINGSPAN AND INCREASED PASSENGER CAPACITY.

THE COMMUNITY AIRPORT HAS CHANGED. EVEN THE FAA PART 150 STATED THERE WOULD BE, THERE SHOULD BE NO AIRCRAFT OVER 60 POUNDS. THIS IS IN 2006. TODAY THE EMBRAER 175 WEIGHS OVER 90,000 POUNDS.

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THIS CHANGED THE PASSENGER CAPACITY FROM THE MAXIMUM OF 30 SEATS TO NO LIMIT.

WHAT CAN THE CITY COUNCIL DO? REQUEST THAT THE COUNTY DIRECT AIRPORT STAFF TO BEGIN THE PROCESS TO UPDATE THE 20 YEAR OLD PALOMAR AIRPORT PART 150 NOISE COMPATIBILITY PROGRAM. IF YOU STARTED THAT PROCESS TODAY.

IT WOULD TAKE APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS TO COMPLETE.

WHEN I SERVED ON THE 2019 VOLUNTEER NOISE ABATEMENT COMMITTEE, THIS WAS A REQUEST OF THAT COMMITTEE IN 2019.

THE AIRPORT IS CHANGING AND THE DATA SHOULD REFLECT WHAT THE CHANGES ARE.

THAT'S IT. QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES. LARRY MADISON.

GREETINGS. CITY COUNCIL LEADERSHIP. GOOD TO MEET YOU.

MY NAME IS LARRY MADISON. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 40 YEARS AND IN NORTH COUNTY FOR OVER 60.

I SPENT 25 YEARS IN THE MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY USING INNOVATION AND ANALYTICS TO HELP PEOPLE LIVE THEIR BEST LIVES.

ADDITIONALLY, I'M A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE EVANS POINT HOA THAT'S JUST NORTH OF THE AIRPORT.

YEAH. I'M SPEAKING TODAY AS A RESIDENT WHO IS DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BALANCING OF GROWTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN CARLSBAD TODAY, FOCUSING ON THE TOPIC OF AIRPORT NOISE AND PUBLIC HEALTH.

AS I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE, NUMEROUS STUDIES HAVE DOCUMENTED THE IMPACT OF AIRPORT AIRPORT NOISE ON HUMAN HEALTH, NOTABLY, A 2013 US MEDICARE STUDY INVOLVING 6 MILLION RESIDENTS ACROSS 89 AIRPORTS FOUND THAT A MODEST TEN DECIBEL INCREASE IN AIRPORT NOISE EXPOSURE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A 3.5% INCREASE IN CARDIOVASCULAR HOSPITALIZATION RATES.

DATA COLLECTED FROM OUR RECENTLY INSTALLED JET NOISE MONITORING SITES.

AND THAT WE INSTALLED WE REVIEWED THE DATA FROM MAY 2026 THAT DEMONSTRATED 8331 NOISE EVENTS ABOVE 65DB WITHIN EVANS POINT, NORTH OF THE AIRPORT, WHICH IS DESIGNATED NOISE SENSITIVE AREA.

UNDER THE CURRENT AND PROPOSED VNAP, RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE OVER 1500 EVENTS OVER 65DB.

WHILE ADDITIONAL LOCAL ANALYSIS WOULD BE NEEDED TO QUANTIFY THE PRECISE HEALTH IMPACT, THESE DATA DEMONSTRATE SIGNIFICANT HEALTH RISK FOR RESIDENTS AFFECTED BY THE INCREASED AIRPORT NOISE. TO LIMIT THIS RISK, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING.

ONE SUPPORT AND ENFORCE THE CURRENT PRACTICE FLIGHT LOOPS NORTHWEST OF THE AIRPORT.

MAY 2026 DATA FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOW 2800 EVENTS, WHICH THE PILOTS DID NOT FOLLOW THE CURRENT VNAP GUIDANCE.

FLYING DIRECTLY OVERHEAD OUT OF OUR HOUSES. RIGHT.

I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO COME TO MY HOUSE, IN THE BACKYARD AND WITNESS A SATURDAY MORNING.

IT'S QUITE ENJOYABLE. SECOND, I RESTORE THE CURRENT VNAP DEPARTURE INSTRUCTIONS FOR JETS SPECIFICALLY TO REINSTATE THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT WERE REMOVED IN THE PROPOSED VNAP TO INCLUDE JETS DEPART ON A 250 DEGREE TRACK, REMAIN NORTH ON PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD UNTIL ONE MILE OFFSHORE.

THIS GUIDANCE WOULD HELP REDUCE DEPARTURES OVER RESIDENTIAL AREAS NEAR POINT CITY PARK AND BETTER ALIGN TRAFFIC WITH PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD.

TO SUPPORT THIS, I RECOMMEND THE CITY LEVERAGES PRACTICES AND PROCESSES USED BY VAN NUYS, WHICH WAS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER AND IN MONTGOMERY FIELD, WHERE THEY ACTUALLY IMPOSED UP TO $250 PENALTIES FOR INFRACTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. MARY LUCID.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE NOT ONLY FOR THE HEALTH AND WELFARE, FOR PEOPLE WITH PULMONARY DISEASES THAT WOULD APPRECIATE HELP FROM YOU. HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO WAIT EIGHT YEARS FOR ACTION ON THIS MATTER.

DO THE BEST YOU CAN. IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE LIFE OF SENIORS AND ALL CITIZENS WITH PULMONARY DISEASE OR HEART DISEASE. FORTUNATELY, MY HEART IS GOOD.

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AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO JASON HABER FOR THE WORK HE'S DOING AND FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONATED MONEY TO CITIZENS FOR A FRIENDLY AIRPORT.

THEY HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION SO THAT YOU, AS A CITY COUNCIL, CAN EXERCISE YOUR POWER.

I MEAN, WHY ARE YOU SITTING UP THERE? IT'S NOT FOR THE MONEY.

SO PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE POLLUTION AND THE NOISE AT THIS AIRPORT, AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND VISIT THE SENIOR CENTER AND LISTEN TO SOME OF THE SENIORS.

IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD TO CONTACT YOU, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR YOU TO MOVE AND DO SOMETHING.

AND I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING IN HASTE AND THEN HAVE TO RETRACT AND REDO AND YADA YADA.

BUT EIGHT YEARS AND WE CAN'T GET A COUCH BY THE GYM.

WE CAN'T GET HEADPHONES AND I. ANYWAY, I WON'T BORE YOU ANYMORE.

THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THOUGH, TO ASK YOU TO DO YOUR JOBS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. BILL FENNER. I HAVE A HANDOUT.

MAY I HAND IT OUT? OKAY. PLEASE GIVE IT TO THE CLERK, SIR.

OKAY. HI, I'M BILL FEDER. I'M A MEMBER OF ONE OF THE AFFECTED COMMUNITIES. WERE DOWN BY THE HILTON GARDEN, AND I SENT THE MAYOR A NOTE THE OTHER DAY.

I WANTED TO TALK REALLY ABOUT THE FINANCIAL BURDEN THAT THIS AIRPORT PLACES ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS OF THE AIRPORT. THERE ARE 32,000 HOUSES.

THE AVERAGE VALUE OF A HOUSE IN THAT THREE MILE AREA IS A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.

THAT'S $48 BILLION OF REAL ESTATE SITTING WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS OF THAT AIRPORT.

THE AIRPORT SITS ON SOME OF THE MOST VALUABLE PROPERTY IN THIS COUNTRY, AND WE'RE BEING BOMBARDED WITH THESE EXCESSIVE NOISE LEVELS.

AN MIT SLOAN STUDY. I PUT IT IN THE NOTES. THEY STUDIED THREE AIRPORTS THAT HAD GROWING AIR TRAFFIC.

ONE WAS CHICAGO O'HARE. THE OTHER ONE WAS BOSTON.

THE OTHER ONE I THINK, WAS SEATTLE. THE STUDY SHOWED THAT FOR EVERY ONE DECIBEL INCREASE IN THE NOISE TO THE AFFECTED COMMUNITIES, IT COULD AFFECT THE PROPERTY VALUES BY 6/10 TO ONE 1%.

THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT 1% OF ALL THOSE PROPERTIES IS $480 MILLION.

OKAY, SO THIS, THIS, THIS LITTLE AIRPORT HAS A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MONEY. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BEING AWAKENED 3 OR 4 TIMES DURING THE NIGHT BY THESE AIRPLANES.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

THE OTHER THING YOU OUGHT TO NOTE, AND I KNOW THIS IS MORE OF THE COUNTY'S DEAL THAN IT IS THE CITY'S, BUT THE AIRPORT LOSES MONEY.

IT COMES AT A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY COST TO THE COUNTY AND THE CITY IN THAT IT LOSES MONEY.

IT HAS TO BE SUBSIDIZED. YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR POLICE THERE.

THERE HAVE TO BE FIRE PEOPLE THERE. AND ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S CAUSING IT'S COSTING MONEY TO ALL THE RESIDENTS NEARBY THAT THAT PROPERTY, THEY OUGHT TO DO WHAT THEY DID IN SANTA MONICA AND ANNOUNCE THAT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO CLOSE THE AIRPORT.

THE COUNTY HAS SIX AIRPORTS, AND NONE OF THE OTHER ONES ARE AS VALUABLE OR AS CLOSE TO THE OCEAN OR IN OR ON SUCH PRECIOUS PROPERTY AS THIS ONE. THEY NEED TO JUST CLOSE IT DOWN. IF YOU CLOSE IT DOWN AND THEN DEVELOPED IT INTO THE BEST, HIGHEST, AND BEST USE, THE RIGHT KIND OF REAL ESTATE, THE CITY WOULD GENERATE TREMENDOUS PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FROM IT INSTEAD OF LOSING MONEY ON IT. SO I ASK YOU TO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO PROHIBIT ANY MORE EXPANSION OF THAT AIRPORT. AND I THINK WHAT YOU OUGHT TO DO IS SEE IF WE CAN CANCEL THE EXISTING AMERICAN AIRLINES, UNITED AIRLINES AND DELTA AIRLINES AND ALL THE REST OF THOSE CONTRACTS AND TAKE THE AIRPORT BACK TO WHAT IT USED TO BE, MAYBE A DECADE AGO. BETTER YET, SHUT IT DOWN.

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I NEED TO VERIFY THAT ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE GROUP ARE HERE.

KATHY GILLIAN, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? HOPE NELSON AND MARY ANN VINEY.

GREAT. YEAH. CAN YOU SIT UP THERE AND CLICK? DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? NO, I WANT YOU TO DO IT. THIS ONE. IS THAT THE BUTTON? JASON CAN TELL YOU. I RECRUITED A FRIEND TO HELP ME WITH THE SLIDES.

ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT, JASON? OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS FRANK SUNG. I'M REPRESENTING THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ACTION TEAM TONIGHT, AND I'M GOING TO COVER WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE FOUND, AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR SOME SPECIFIC HELP OF THE CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING.

SO LET ME START WITH THE END IN MIND. SO BASICALLY, NUMBER ONE, WE'RE ASKING THAT THE CITY WRITE THE FAA INSTRUCT THEM TO TELL THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL PEOPLE, THE CONTROL TOWER, IF YOU WILL, TO DIRECT TAKEOFF FLIGHTS ALONG WHAT VNAP CURRENTLY SAYS, WHICH IS A 250 DEGREE TRACK, REMAIN NORTH OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD UNTIL ONE MILE OFFSHORE. THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY TO TELL THE COUNTY TO ACCEPT RESIDENT EMAIL NOISE COMPLAINTS.

TODAY THERE ARE TWO WAYS OF DOING IT. CALL A NUMBER.

LEAVE A LENGTHY VOICEMAIL YOU NEVER HEAR BACK AGAIN.

AND THEN. OR GO THROUGH THEIR WEB TRACK ONLINE APP.

AND IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO DO. AND NUMBER THREE, I ASK THE STAFF TO GIVE YOU STAKES IN THE GROUND EVERY MONTH TO REPORT THE NOISE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. PAN, PALOMAR AIRPORT ACTION TEAM.

WE HAVE THE DATA. WE CAN BE THE LEGS BEHIND STAFF PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

SO OKAY, SO THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. SO LET ME COME BACK TO WHO WE ARE.

WE STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO 25 HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, FIVE COMMUNITY GROUPS.

WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A REACH OF 45,000 RESIDENTS.

OUR INITIAL FOCUS IS ON NOISE AND SAFETY. WE ALSO A YEAR AGO INCORPORATED A 501 C THREE CALLED SAN DIEGO AIRPORT ACTION ADVOCATES. OUR MISSION THERE IS BROADER.

WE WANT TO BE A RESOURCE TO THE WHOLE SAN DIEGO REGION.

THE FOCUS FOR NOW IS THE NOISE MONITORING OF PALOMAR AIRPORT.

BUT WE WANT TO GET INTO PARTICULATE MATTER CONTAMINATION.

WE WANT TO GET INTO LEAD CONTAMINATION. THE SINGLE ENGINE AIRPLANES ARE STILL USING LEADED GAS.

IT'S LIKE LAWN MOWERS IN THE SKY. ONE OF MY FRIENDS CAME UP WITH THAT JUST SPEWING STUFF ALL OVER THE PEOPLE UNDERNEATH.

AND WE ALSO WANT TO GET INTO GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION.

SO THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL AREAS THAT WE WANT TO GET INTO FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL POINT OF VIEW.

SO THE FIRST PROJECT SLIDE FIVE IS THIS NOISE MONITORING NETWORK.

WE HAVE 12 LOCATIONS IN ADDITION TO TWO ADS-B ANTENNAS.

ALL PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION. GET NOISY IS A COMPANY THAT WE PARTNERED WITH.

THEY'RE LED BY PHDS FROM UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS AND PURDUE.

THEY USE A SOFTWARE AI DESIGN. WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT FAIRLY INEXPENSIVELY, BUT IT'S HOA FUNDED.

IT'S HOSTED. THESE MONITORS AND TWO ANTENNAS ARE HOSTED BY INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS.

AND OF THE 12, NINE OF THEM ARE IN CARLSBAD. WE HAVE ONE EACH IN VISTA, ESCONDIDO AND SAN MARCOS.

AND THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE. THANK YOU, JASON, FOR HAVING IT UP.

SHOWS YOU THE LOCATIONS SIX IN DISTRICT THREE, TWO IN DISTRICT TWO, ONE IN DISTRICT ONE.

THOSE ARE THE NINE THAT ARE PHYSICALLY IN CARLSBAD, CONCENTRATED ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT, BECAUSE THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE GETTING HAMMERED FROM THE TAKEOFFS.

AND ALSO THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF NOISE SUCH AS OUR FRIEND JUST SPOKE TO IN EVANS POINT, THE TOUCH AND GO FLIGHT LOOPS.

THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS RIGHT OUT OF THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE VOLUNTARY TAKEOFFS SHOULD LOOK LIKE. 250 DEGREE TRACK DUE WEST BEFORE MAKING TURNS ONE MILE OFFSHORE THE UPPER RIGHT.

IMAGE SHOWS YOU AN EARLY TURN. WE BELIEVE FROM OUR TRACKING THAT OVER 50% OF THE AMERICAN AIRLINES AND UNITED AIRLINES LARGE JET TAKEOFFS TAKE EARLY TURNS, MEANING THEY DON'T REACH THE OCEAN.

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PLUS, IT'S REALLY NOISY. THAT'S DANGEROUS AND NOISY.

BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE CHART. YOU CAN'T KIND OF KIND OF SEE IT, BUT IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF JUST AN EGREGIOUS YOU HAVE HANDOUTS, BUT IT'S JUST AN EGREGIOUS CUTTING THROUGH ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND POINSETTIA PARK HEADING SOUTH.

IT WAS A SKYWEST UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT. SO THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF CONSISTENT PATTERNS OF REPEATED DISREGARD FOR VNAP.

SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT REVISING THE EXISTING VNAP, BUT NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE EXISTING ONE, MUCH LESS THEY'RE GOING TO CARE ABOUT A NEW ONE.

SO WE'RE ASKING THE CITY TO WRITE THE FAA. THE COUNTY DOESN'T CARE.

THAT'S BEEN WELL ESTABLISHED. IT'S NOT VERY DIFFICULT WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING THEM TO DO, AND THEY HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO DO ANYTHING.

SO SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT FROM OUR NOISE MONITORING NETWORK, SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON IT. BUT OVER 10,000 NOISE EVENTS DURING THE MONTH OF MAY, 278, NIGHTTIME ONES, ABOUT NINE AVERAGE PER NIGHT, 82% OF THE 10,200 PLUS IS ABOVE 65DB.

THAT'S CONSIDERED ANYTHING OVER 65DB IS CONSIDERED NOISE IMPACTED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND 40% OF THE 10,200 ARE 75DB OR LOUDER. DECIBELS ARE MEASURED ON A LOGARITHMIC SCALE, SO A TEN DECIBEL DIFFERENCE ACTUALLY IS TEN TIMES THE SOUND ENERGY.

BUT THE WAY OUR HEARING HUMAN HEARING HAS IT, A TEN DECIBEL DIFFERENCE IS TWICE AS LOUD.

SO OUR COMMUNITIES ALL AROUND THE AIRPORT ARE NOISE IMPACTED.

WE'RE GETTING HAMMERED. THIS DATA HAS NOT BEEN AVAILABLE BEFORE.

YOU WOULD HAVE PEOPLE COME AND SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, I GOT WOKEN UP AND I CAN'T LISTEN TO MY TV.

AND IT'S JUST REALLY RUINING MY LIFE, RUINING QUALITY OF LIFE.

WE NOW HAVE DATA TO BACK UP ALL OF THESE ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCES.

SO 65DB IS LIKE A WINDOW AIR CONDITIONER OR A DISHWASHER RUNNING NEARBY, 75DB IS LIKE A VACUUM CLEANER OR A GARBAGE DISPOSAL RUNNING NEARBY. SO SLIDE NUMBER NINE TALKS ABOUT THE HEAT MAPS.

SO ON THE LEFT IS FROM MIDNIGHT TO 10 A.M. ON A TYPICAL DAY, MAY THE 20TH, IT'S A WEDNESDAY.

ON THE RIGHT IS ALL DAY. SO WHAT? THERE'S TWO TWO COMMENTS.

OH, AND THE SHADED AREAS ARE NOISE SENSITIVE AREAS PER THE VNAP THAT NOBODY GIVES A RIP ABOUT.

TWO OBSERVATIONS. NUMBER ONE, IT'S THE WILD WEST.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. WE ARE GETTING NOISE IMPACTED.

THE QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS BEING RUINED.

I THINK IT'S TIME. MAYOR. I THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.

YOU GAVE US THE INSPIRATION WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WONDERED OUT LOUD SAYS, OH, I WONDER IF I CAN WRITE A NICE PLEASE BE FRIENDLY LETTER TO PILOTS THAT VIOLATE VNAP. AND THE COUNTY CONVENIENTLY SAID THAT'S NOT READILY AVAILABLE.

WELL, WE HAVE A SYSTEM. WE HAVE THE DATA. WE HAVE IT DOWN TO THE TAIL NUMBER THROUGH THE FEDERAL REGISTRY.

WE CAN GET ON OUR OPERATOR. WE HAVE THAT DATA.

IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK WITH THAT, WITH THAT IDEA, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

WE HAVE THE WILD WEST. IT'S OUT OF CONTROL. THE OTHER OPPOSITION I WOULD MAKE IS, I DON'T KNOW, IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST ANALOGY, BUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE E-BIKE INVASION.

AND IT WAS JUST BRILLIANT HOW THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS WORKED TOGETHER WITHIN THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND YOU CAME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT RESTORED SAFETY TO THE ROADS AND RESPECT FOR OTHER MOTORISTS.

THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE AIRPORT, WHICH IS OUT OF CONTROL.

OUT OF CONTROL. OKAY. SLIDE NUMBER TEN. WE ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS IS VERY GOOD IN CODING, AND HE CAME UP WITH A WAY OF TAKING THE NOISY NOISE DATA. AND HE GENERATES THESE SAMPLE RESIDENT COMPLAINTS.

HE FILTERS IT OUT SO WE DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE DOING IT.

AND SO I KNOW IT'S KIND OF SMALL PRINT, BUT YOU GOT THE HANDOUT.

BUT BASICALLY HE GENERATES THESE AUTOMATICALLY.

THEN WE HAVE A NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE ENCOURAGED TO SCAN IT AND SEND IT IN TO THE AIRPORT OPERATIONS PEOPLE AT THE COUNTY.

AND SO WE STARTED PLAYING AROUND WITH THAT. IN THE MONTH OF MAY, WE CAME UP WITH 279 EMAIL COMPLAINTS THAT WERE SENT IN THE EMAIL.

COMPLAINTS WERE PRINTED OUT. SO AT LAST THURSDAY'S PAAC MEETING DOM VITRO MY, MY PAN CO-FOUNDER BUDDY, HE GAVE IT TO THE AIRPORT MANAGER AND SHE WOULDN'T ACCEPT IT.

SHE SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU WE ONLY HAVE TWO WAYS OF GETTING INPUT AND EMAIL COMPLAINTS ARE NOT ARE NOT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ACCEPT.

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THERE ARE OTHER AIRPORTS THAT WE KNOW OF THAT ACCEPT EMAIL COMPLAINTS.

JOHN WAYNE, THE SMALL AIRPORT IN SANTA CLARA COUNTY JOSE INTERNATIONAL, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO IN SAN DIEGO, INTERNATIONAL BROWNFIELD AND THE MONTGOMERY GIBS, ALL OF THESE AIRPORTS ALL AROUND US IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA ACCEPT EMAIL COMPLAINTS.

SO THEY ASK THERE IS THE SECOND ASK THAT IS THE CITY WOULD WRITE THE COUNTY AND SAY, PLEASE ACCEPT EMAIL BASED NOISE COMPLAINTS FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

QUIT HIDING, QUIT REPRESSING. SUPPRESSING. IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.

OKAY, SO LET ME END WITH HOW WE STARTED. SIR.

THANK YOU. VICKI SAGE.

[INAUDIBLE] FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR PLACING GARY GREENING AND SHIRLEY ANDERSON ON THE COMMITTEE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO ROCK STARS. THEY BUSTED THEIR DERRIERES TO MAKE THIS THING WORK.

WITH LESS THAN HELPFUL COUNTY STAFF, I MIGHT ADD, THAT PUSHED BACK A WHOLE LOT ON RESIDENT CONCERNS, BUT THE COMMITTEE STOOD FIRM TO SUPPORT ITS RESIDENTS.

THERE'S TWO CHANGES THAT MUST BE INCORPORATED. I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE FIRST THING, WHICH IS, REMEMBER WHEN GARY SAID THE AIRPORT MANAGER WAS MAKING HER EDITS.

THAT 250. DO YOU SEE THAT LINE UP THERE ON THE BIG THING? THAT IS THE 250 FLIGHT PATH THAT TAKES THE AIRPLANES NORTH OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.

IT LITERALLY IN THE. IN THE PART 150 SAYS TO FLY NORTH OF SOLYMAR, SOUTH OF MIRAMAR, WHERE THERE ARE NO HOUSES.

GO OVER THE OCEAN BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR TURNS.

COUNTY LIKE TO TAKE THAT OUT. THE SECOND THING.

THAT'S IT. I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. THE SECOND THING IS THAT COULD ADD IN A CONCESSION TO THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS THE COUNTY IS LETTING THEM HAVE. THEY'RE DOING THE LOOP DE LOOP THINGS.

THEY'RE LITTLE CIRCULAR PRACTICES TO MAKE THEM MUCH WIDER BECAUSE THAT'S EASIER FOR THE STUDENTS. BUT THAT JUST WREAKS HAVOC ON THE RESIDENTS.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT TIGHT. IT'S BEEN TIGHT FOR 20 YEARS.

THE THIRD ASK THAT SHIRLEY DID THAT PART 150 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT RESEARCHERS AT C4FA.

SOMEONE WENT BACK THROUGH ALL THOSE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF THE ONE THAT WAS DONE.

IT WAS ACTUALLY THE STUDY WAS DONE BY AN OUTSIDE COMPANY IN 2005.

THE AIRPORT HAD TWO NOISE MONITORS. THEY HIRED A GUY WHO TOOK A HANDHELD NOISE MONITOR OVER THE COURSE OF TWO DAYS, WENT AROUND THE CITY OF CARLSBAD FOR 15 MINUTE SEGMENTS ON A WEEKDAY AFTERNOON, MEASURED THE NOISE, JUST KIND OF MEASURED. AND THEN THEY WENT BACK AND THEY DREW THESE NOISE CONTOURS. THAT'S THE HOLY GRAIL THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN CITING AS THE MAGIC.

IT DOES NOT MATCH WHERE OUR HOMES ARE. IT DOES NOT MATCH THE COUNTY, THE CITY PLAN, THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WAS LAID OUT IN 1986 AS TO WHERE TO BUILD OUR HOUSES AND WHERE NOT TO BUILD, AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, ALL THAT MONEY WE PUT IN AND ALL THE AWARDS WE GOT.

IT DOESN'T MATCH ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON NOW, BECAUSE YOU SAW FRANK'S SPAGHETTI THING, WHERE EVERYBODY'S FLYING AND THEY WON'T CHANGE IT. THEY SAY IT'S ALL SO HARD. WELL, IT TOOK HIM TWO YEARS TO CALL THE FAA TO GET A WEBINAR.

SO I GUESS IF THAT'S THE LEVEL OF HARD, IT'S NOT.

YOU SAW WHAT THE RESIDENTS DID. THEY POOLED THEIR MONEY, THEY GOT TOGETHER.

WE CREATED THEIR OWN NOISE SYSTEM. AND THEN SO WE JUST NEED TO STEP IT UP.

THE THE RESIDENTS HERE CAN LEAVE THE COUNTY AND THE DESKS.

AND MY LAST ASK IS TO PLEASE ALLOW THE GET NOISY INFORMATION TO BE PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC, HOPEFULLY HAVE A LITTLE SPACE ON A WEBSITE WHERE THIS DATA CAN GO OUT BECAUSE THE COUNTY SURE AS HECK DOESN'T WANT IT SHOWN. SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU PAN. THANK YOU.

GET NOISY. APPRECIATE IT ALL. GRETCHEN. ASHTON.

WE HAD A TON OF SMART PEOPLE OUT HERE. TON OF SMART PEOPLE.

I GAVE YOU A HANDOUT. THE PERSON WHO DID THIS FOR US ISN'T HERE.

HE'S TRAVELING. BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE HANDOUT.

READ IT THROUGH AND SORT OF DIGEST IT ON YOUR OWN TIME.

AS OF TONIGHT, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT NOISE IN CARLSBAD REGARDING THE AIRPORT HAS CHANGED FOREVER.

FOREVER. IF YOU LOOK ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THIS FIRST FIRST PAGE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THE FAA RECOGNIZES SUPPLEMENTAL NOISE METRICS.

CNAL, WHICH IS AN ARCHAIC MODEL WAY BACK FROM THE 1970S, ISN'T EVEN USED BY THE FAA.

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WHERE'S MY. SORRY, LOOKING FOR THE LITTLE CLICKER FOR.

YOU'LL DO IT FOR ME. THAT'S OKAY. FOR LONG RANGE LAND USE PLANNING, IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE USED FOR MEASURING WORLD REAL WORLD NOISE IMPACTS ON COMMUNITIES.

YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A LIST OF METRICS. THE NUMBER ABOVE EACH OF THE THRESHOLDS 65DB 75DB 80DB 85.

THE TIME OF OF NOISE EVENT. THE MAX OF THE SINGLE LEVEL EVENT, THE DISTURBANCES AT NIGHT AND AWAKENINGS. SO I HAVE TO GO THROUGH MY CONTENT QUICK.

BUT I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE GET NOISY PROVIDES THIS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL TO ASK YOUR STAFF TO NOT ONLY PROVIDE YOU MONTHLY NOISE REPORTS, BUT TO PROVIDE YOU MONTHLY NOISE REPORTS WITH THIS SUPPLEMENTAL DATA, BECAUSE THE FAA RECOMMENDS IT FOR REAL WORLD EVENTS.

NOW, I WANT TO SHOW YOU I'M GOING TO SKIP A SLIDE.

I'M GOING TO GO TO THE ONE THAT HAD NOT THAT ONE.

THAT ONE. I WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THAT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS A REAL WORLD EVENT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE ORANGE LINE, IT'S THE 250 TRACK THAT YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN SHOWN.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN LINE, THAT'S SKYWEST FLIGHT 5519 ON ON JUNE 20TH.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LITTLE YELLOW TRIANGLE, YOU SEE THAT'S A LEGOLAND MONITOR.

THE HANDOUT THAT YOU HAVE GIVES YOU A LEGOLAND EXAMPLE OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL DATA.

WE WERE ABLE TO FINALLY GET A FOIA REQUEST AND GET ALL THE NOISE EVENTS FOR EVERY SINGLE MONITOR THAT THE COUNTY HAS FOR EVERY SINGLE FLYOVER. THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE JANUARY OF 2023 UNTIL LAST MONTH.

AND OUR VOLUNTEER TOOK ALL THAT DATA AND CREATED A REAL WORLD PIECE OF INFORMATION OFF THE LEGO LAND MONITOR FOR YOU.

SO THE COUNTY HAS THIS INFORMATION. THEY JUST DON'T PROVIDE IT.

AND ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, THERE'S NO COUNTY NOISE MONITOR IN THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I LIVE OFF THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER. AND AND YESTERDAY THE SKYWEST FLIGHT READ 83DB AT MY HOUSE AND FLEW AT 891FT.

SO MUCH MORE. I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THAT WILL GIVE YOU A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE.

ALAN MENDEL.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

AND THE REASON IS VERY SIMPLE. IT GIVES ME A BREAK FROM THE HORRIBLE NOISE THAT I EXPERIENCE ALL DAY.

TODAY WAS A HORRIBLE DAY. SUNDAY WAS TERRIBLE.

IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE AND TO THE POINT WHERE WHERE WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE PROMISED MYSELF THAT I'VE GOT TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND GET AWAY FROM THE NOISE. AND SO I DELIBERATELY MAKE PLANS TO DO THAT NO MATTER WHERE I GO.

DOESN'T MATTER WHERE I GO. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT GETS ME AWAY FROM THE CONSISTENT NOISE.

I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING. YES, WE KNOW ABOUT THE JETS AND HOW NOISY THEY ARE, BUT ALSO THE PROPS BECAUSE THE PROPS HAVE HAVE HAD TO CHANGE THEIR FLIGHT PATTERNS. AND SO THE PROPS ARE WHAT GOES OVER MY HOUSE ON A REGULAR, REGULAR BASIS. AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

REALLY APPRECIATE BEING HERE. JEAN WALKER.

HI. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY'S REPRESENTATION ON THE PALOMAR AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I ATTENDED THE COMMITTEE'S MOST RECENT MEETING LAST WEEK, AND FRANKLY, IT WAS UNLIKE ANY GOVERNMENTAL MEETING I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED.

ONE OF THE CARLSBAD REPRESENTATIVES SPENT THE FIRST 20 MINUTES DISPUTING THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING, BECAUSE SHE FELT SHE HAD NOT, THAT THE MINUTES DID NOT ADEQUATELY REFLECT HOW SHE HAD BEEN TREATED AT THAT PREVIOUS MEETING IN DECADES OF ATTENDING FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT MEETINGS. I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING QUITE LIKE IT.

THE MEETING QUICKLY DEVOLVED INTO ARGUMENTS AND PERSONAL GRIEVANCES RATHER THAN CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSION.

UNFORTUNATELY, REPORTS FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS SUGGEST IT IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.

AT THE NOVEMBER 2025 MEETING, THERE WERE OPEN HOSTILITIES, YELLING AND WARNINGS THAT THE ROOM WOULD BE CLEARED IF PARTICIPANTS DID NOT CALM DOWN.

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IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE HOW MEANINGFUL GUIDANCE FOR EITHER THE CITY OR COUNTY CAN EMERGE FROM THIS ENVIRONMENT.

I TOOK THE TIME TO RESEARCH THE VNAP PROGRAM.

THE VNAP ORIGINATED AS PART OF A 2022 LAWSUIT FILED BY CITIZENS FOR A FRIENDLY AIRPORT AGAINST BOTH THE CITY AND COUNTY.

THAT LAWSUIT WAS VOLUNTARILY DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE BY C4FA'S OWN ATTORNEY, CORY BRIGGS, CLEARLY C4FA WAS WILLING TO ACCEPT THE VNAP AS PART OF THAT RESOLUTION.

THE CITY HAS REPORTEDLY SPENT $700,000 ON LEGAL FEES TO AIRPORT MATTERS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, DESPITE A 2022 COURT RULING THAT THE CITY'S CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOES NOT APPLY TO AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE EXISTING AIRPORT FOOTPRINT. THE CITY WAS ADVISED OF A SIMILAR LEGAL CONCLUSION BY FORMER CITY ATTORNEY RON BALL IN 1993.

IF THESE LEGAL QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED, TAXPAYERS DESERVE AN EXPLANATION FOR WHY WE CONTINUE SPENDING SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC RESOURCES PURSUING THE SAME ISSUES. THE FIRST WORD IN VNAP IS VOLUNTARY.

NOTHING THAT IS VOLUNTARY IS MANDATORY. IF THE CITY WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD PRODUCTIVELY WITH THE COUNTY AND THE FAA, IT SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THE LEGAL AND REGULATORY REALITIES THAT ALREADY EXIST.

READ THE RULINGS AND MEMOS FOR YOURSELVES. DON'T RELY ON C4FA OR ANY OTHER SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP, OR EVEN ME TO PROVIDE COMPLETE OR ACCURATE INFORMATION.

GO TO PRIMARY SOURCES. DO A RESIDENT SURVEY TO FIND OUT HOW PEOPLE FEEL IN CARLSBAD ABOUT THE AIRPORT ISSUES.

I ALSO URGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER APPOINTING A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE AIRPORT COMMITTEE WHO CAN FOSTER CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOG, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, AND PROVIDE RELIABLE GUIDANCE RATHER THAN CONTRIBUTE TO CONFLICT AND CHAOS.

BRAD ATWATER.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.

MY NAME IS BRAD ATWATER, AND I'M A RESIDENT LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY OF CARLSBAD.

MY DAUGHTERS GO TO AOE AND THEY RECENTLY HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF COMING HERE AND INSPIRED ME TO SPEAK.

I'M HERE BECAUSE LOW AIRCRAFT ARE HAVING A SERIOUS AND MEASURABLE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND DURING THE MONTH OF MAY ALONE PUBLIC FLIGHT TRACKING DATA IDENTIFIED 201 FLIGHTS OVER MY COMMUNITY ALONE OF RECOMMENDED ALTITUDE OF 1500FT. OF THOSE, 173 WERE BELOW 1000FT AND FOUR WERE BELOW 500FT, ALL CONTRIBUTING TO THESE NOISE EVENTS. THIS IS NOT SIMPLY A MATTER OF OCCASIONAL AIRPORT NOISE.

THIS IS ALSO THESE REPEATED OVERFLIGHTS ARE ALSO ABOUT SAFETY.

THIS DATA ALSO SHOWS THAT THIS PROBLEM IS CONCENTRATED.

APPROXIMATELY 25% OF THESE LOW FLIGHTS ARE COMING FROM JUST TEN REPEAT AIRCRAFT IN THE MONTH OF MAY.

MOST OF WHICH APPEARED TO BE FROM FLIGHT SCHOOLS.

THAT MEANS MEANINGFUL IMPROVEMENT CAN BE MADE THROUGH TARGETED OUTREACH AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE DESCRIBED THESE REAL WORLD EFFECTS FROM WAKING UP THEIR INFANTS FROM DISRUPTING ONLINE CLASSES, ONLINE MEETINGS, ETC. AND THESE ARE NOT ISOLATED COMPLAINTS.

THEY REFLECT A RECURRING PATTERN OF AFFECTING SLEEP, EDUCATION, OUTDOOR USE OF OUR HOMES AND RESIDENTS, QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT NOT EVERY LOW FLIGHT IS NECESSARILY ILLEGAL.

RIGHT? AND, AND THESE AIRCRAFT HAVE LEGITIMATELY TAKING OFF OR LANDING MAY MAY OPERATE AT LOWER ALTITUDES.

BUT WHEN THE SAME AIRCRAFT REPEATEDLY FLY OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AWAY FROM THE PUBLISHED FLIGHT PATHS.

CIRCLE OVER OUR HOMES, CONDUCT TRAINING ACTIVITY ABOVE OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, RESIDENTS DESERVE MORE THAN JUST BEING TOLD THIS IS NORMAL AIRPORT ACTIVITY. SO I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THREE THINGS.

FIRST, FORMALLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY AND THE AIRPORT PROVIDE TRANSPARENT REPORTING ON LOW ALTITUDE FLIGHTS, REPEAT AIRCRAFT FLIGHT, SCHOOL ACTIVITY COMPLAINTS AND FOLLOW UP ACTIONS.

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AND THIRD, ESTABLISH CLEAR PROCESS THROUGH WHICH RESIDENTS SUPPORTED COMPLAINTS CAN BE REVIEWED AND USED TO IDENTIFY PATTERNS, CONDUCT.

SIR, YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED. THANK YOU, ANITA ARNOLD.

IS IT STILL EVENING? YES. OKAY. IT'S NOT TOMORROW MORNING.

IT'S IRONIC. WE'RE ALL SPEAKING ABOUT THE SAME THINGS WHEN WE COME UP HERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT CONSPIRED TO TALK ABOUT THE SAME THINGS.

BUT WE ARE ALL WRITING THE SAME ISSUES DOWN ON OUR PAPERS.

MAYOR BLACKBURN. COUNCIL MEMBERS STAFF. MY NAME IS ANITA ARNOLD.

MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT OUR HOME IN CARLSBAD IN 2010.

KNOWING WE WERE NEAR PALOMAR AIRPORT. THE LIGHT AIRPORT NOISE WE WOULD HEAR WAS NOT A PROBLEM AT THAT TIME AS THE FLIGHT PATH WAS DIRECTLY WEST OVER PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD. HOWEVER, AS WE KNOW, THIS HAS DRASTICALLY CHANGED WITH COMMERCIAL JETS NOW TAKING OFF THAT HAVE DECIBEL LEVELS NOTED WELL ABOVE WHAT CALIFORNIA ALLOWS. AND THE FLIGHT PATH IS NO LONGER DUE WEST STRAIGHT OUT TO THE OCEAN.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD OF SEABRIGHT IS DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY DIAGONAL TO THE CROSSINGS GOLF COURSE OR DIRECTLY SOUTH OF LEGOLAND.

THE FIRST CHANGE TO THE FLIGHT PATH WE NOTICED WAS THAT THE PLANES STARTED FLYING OVER OUR CANYON, WHICH IS JUST SOUTH WEST OF PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD.

SLOWLY, THE FLIGHT PATH MOVED FURTHER SOUTH OVER OUR CUL DE SAC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THE CANYON, AND HAS CONTINUED TO SLOWLY MOVE FURTHER SOUTH THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSE BY HOUSE.

THE FLIGHT PATH IS NOW CURRENTLY FIVE HOMES SOUTH OF THAT CUL DE SAC.

I'M SEEING IT NOW OVER MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE INSTEAD OF AT THE END OF THE CUL DE SAC.

THIS DEVIATION AFFECTS MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL, WHO ARE SUDDENLY LIVING UNDER THIS FLIGHT PATH, WHETHER INSIDE OR OUTSIDE OUR HOME, WE CANNOT HEAR ANYTHING BUT THESE PLANES FLYING OVER OUR HOMES, ESPECIALLY THE COMMERCIAL JETS. I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE AMERICAN AIRLINES OR UNITED AIRLINES FLYING OVER MY STREET.

WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. WE NEED TO SUBMIT PAPERWORK TO THE FAA TO CORRECT THESE FLIGHT PATH DEVIATIONS CAUSED BY THE EARTH'S MAGNETIC PULL.

THIS CHANGE ACTUALLY REQUIRES AVIATORS AND AIRPORTS TO UPDATE NAVIGATIONAL DATA CHARTS AND RUNWAY NUMBERS.

WE HAVE ASKED MR. ABBOTT, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE AIRPORT, MANY TIMES THROUGH THE LAST FEW YEARS, TO SUBMIT THIS PAPERWORK TO THE FAA, AND HE HAS CONTINUED TO STALL.

THIS UPDATE COULD ALLEVIATE THE CONSTANT BARRAGE OF NOISE OVER OUR HOMES DIRECT IT BACK OVER PALOMAR AIRPORT ROAD, OFFERING SOME KIND OF RELIEF IN SAFETY. THANK YOU.

THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS. WE'VE BEEN IN SESSION FOR TWO HOURS, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF BREAK AND RESUME AT 7:10.

YES. READY? YEAH. OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OF OUR STAFF? MISS BHAT-PATEL.

I HAVE A I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO THE SPEAKERS AND OF COURSE, ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE WRITTEN IN.

AND MR. HABER, FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND MR. STRONG, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES IN WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THIS BODY COULD ENGAGE IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND POTENTIALLY RESPONDING TO THAT, I'D REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

I'M PULLING UP THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION.

I JUST HAVE ONE MOMENT. I WANT TO REVISIT THOSE.

MR. HABER, IS YOUR MIC ON? I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU.

SORRY. I'LL MOVE CLOSER. SORRY. THANK YOU. GIVE ME JUST ONE MOMENT.

SO, AS IT RELATES TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THE PAACS VOLUNTARY NOISE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES SUBCOMMITTEE,

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THAT'S ONE OPTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS. MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE DO HAVE COVER IN OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM THAT IS OBVIOUSLY REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ANNUALLY, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE A BASIS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO INITIATE THE UPDATE TO THE PART 150 STUDY.

WE HAVE PROVISIONS IN THE PLATFORM THAT GO TO SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO UPDATE THE, THE PROCEDURE TO MINIMIZE NOISE OVER NEIGHBORHOODS AND ESTABLISH MANDATORY FLIGHT PATHS, AS WELL AS TO STUDY AND MITIGATE THE NOISE AND AIR QUALITY IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH AIR TRAFFIC OVERFLIGHTS. THOSE CLEARLY GO TO THAT RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE COVER IN THOSE AREAS. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT SPEAKS SPECIFICALLY TO THE FLY FRIENDLY RECOGNITION PROGRAM OR THE WAY THAT THE COUNTY HANDLES THEIR NOISE COMPLAINTS PER SE. BUT THOSE AREAS ARE SOME THAT WE COULD WEIGH IN ON, I BELIEVE.

THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN.

IF, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY HELP ELEVATE AND SUPPORT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, JUST TO PUT FURTHER WEIGHT ON IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HEARD.

SO APPRECIATE THAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS AND LET ME JUST LOOK THROUGH MY NOTES HERE.

GIVE ME ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WITH REGARDS TO ANY COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS, FOR INSTANCE, HAVE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN TOUCH WITH ANY OF THEM OR JUST PROVIDE FEEDBACK AT ALL? THE CITY HAS NOT INITIATED ANY CONTACT DIRECTLY WITH THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS RELATIVE TO THEIR OPERATIONS AT PALOMAR AS FAR AS I KNOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS, BUT I'LL WAIT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MISS ACOSTA? THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WITH FAA.

I KNOW BECAUSE I WENT TO DC WITH YOU, MR. HABER, AND WE TALKED WITH THE FAA.

WE ALSO HAD A TOWN HALL AND WE MADE SOME REQUESTS.

HAS HAS THERE BEEN ANY ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH THE FAA OR MAYBE YOU COULD REMIND US OF THE INTERACTIONS WE HAVE HAD WITH THE FAA. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL ENGAGEMENTS WITH THE FAA AND WITH COUNTY STAFF AS WELL ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. SOME OF OUR ADVOCACY HAS BEEN ALIGNED WITH THE REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING AND RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THE VNAP SUBCOMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE REQUESTS FROM COMMENTERS THAT YOU HEARD TONIGHT, PARTICULARLY ACKNOWLEDGING THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE RECOMMENDED FLIGHT PATH THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE COUNTY'S VNAP AND THE DIRECTIVES THAT ARE COMING OFF OF FAA DOCUMENTATIONS AS FAR AS HOW FLIGHTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DIRECTED. WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH THE FAA ON THE CONCEPT OF CONVERTING THE VNAP, THE VOLUNTARY NOISE ABATEMENT PROGRAM TO A MANDATORY NOISE ABATEMENT PROGRAM. AND A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN ASKING OF THE FAA AND ENGAGING WITH THEM ON WERE ADDRESSED IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT YOU REFERENCED AS WELL.

THAT WAS HELD EARLIER THIS YEAR, HOSTED BY THE COUNTY AND BY THE FAA, AND IT ADDRESSED A VARIETY OF ASPECTS OF OPERATIONS GOING ON AT PALOMAR AND ALL OF THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORKS THAT APPLY IN TERMS OF REGULATING AND GOVERNING AIR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AND OPERATIONS AT THE AIRPORT.

AND A LOT, A LOT OF WHAT WE HEARD WAS THAT THE FAA HAS PRIMARY CONCERNS ARE EFFICIENCY AND SAFETY OF THE AIRSPACE, AND ALL OTHER ASPECTS ULTIMATELY ARE SECONDARY TO THOSE.

SO A LOT OF OUR ADVOCACY RELATIVE TO THE SPECIFIC FLIGHT PATHS AND HOURS OF OPERATION WERE DEFERRED TO THOSE PRIORITIES, I WOULD SAY. OKAY, GREAT. AND PART OF THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I SAW THAT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS IN ONE OF THESE HANDOUTS WAS A LETTER TO

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HAVE WE MADE THAT REQUEST BEFORE TO FAA AND IF SO, WHAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE? YES, WE HAVE MADE THAT REQUEST PREVIOUSLY. AND ONE OF THE RESPONSES, I THINK, IS THAT THE FAA IS MUCH MORE INCLINED TO FIELD THOSE TYPES OF REQUESTS FROM THE AIRPORT OPERATOR THEMSELVES.

AND SO IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S ADVOCACY THE FAA WOULDN'T NECESSARILY TAKE THAT IN TERMS OF DRIVING ANY ACTION ON THEIR BEHALF.

THEY'RE MUCH MORE INCLINED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO A REQUEST COMING FROM THE COUNTY AS THE AIRPORT OWNER AND OPERATOR.

RIGHT. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. SO TO MOVE ON TO THAT POINT IN OUR ADVOCACY TO THE, THE COUNTY, HAVE WE SENT ANY LETTERS THAT THERE'S A REQUEST HERE ABOUT ACCEPTING THE RESIDENTS NOISE COMPLAINTS.

AND I KNOW THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE MISS ANDERSON, SPOKE ABOUT THAT.

MR. GROENING SPOKE ABOUT THAT. SO HAVE HAVE WE URGED THE COUNTY OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO? THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO AT THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE ENGAGED ON IN THE PAST.

IT'S IT'S AN ISSUE THAT HAS JUST BEEN RAISED TONIGHT OR IN THE VERY RECENT PAST WITH CONVEYANCE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S WORK AND RECOMMENDATIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE WHOLE POTENTIAL MENU OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THOSE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I HAD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MY GOAL IS FOR THE AIRPORT TO JUST BE A BETTER NEIGHBOR.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEM CLOSED. WE JUST WANT THEM TO BE A BETTER NEIGHBOR. ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THE SAFETY ISSUES OF THE AIRPORT.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE FOR FIRE SAFETY ON SCENE? I UNDERSTAND THERE'S TWO PRIVATE FIREMEN WHO ARE ON SCENE WITH 1 OR 2 FIRE TRUCKS, BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES WITH OUR CITY TO RESPOND IF THERE WERE TO BE AN EMERGENCY THERE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AND HOW OTHER CITIES DEAL WITH IT? YES. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, MAYOR. WHAT YOU DESCRIBE IS LARGELY ACCURATE.

FOR MORE SPECIFICS, I'D DEFER TO OUR FIRE CHIEF IF HE'S AVAILABLE.

FIRE CHIEF.

OKAY. I THINK I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION YOU WERE ASKING.

HOW FIRE RESCUE AND EMS SERVICES AT OUR AIRPORT COMPARED TO OTHERS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT AND WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO PROVIDE SERVICES IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY AT THE AIRPORT? OKAY. SO, MIKE CALDERWOOD, FIRE CHIEF, FOR THE RECORD.

THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR US TO RESPOND. THE AIRPORT IS IN OUR JURISDICTION, EVEN THOUGH THE LAND IS OWNED AND OPERATED THE AIRPORT THROUGH THE COUNTY.

WHAT THE AIRPORT PROVIDES IS WHAT'S CALLED AN RF AND AIRCRAFT RESCUE FIREFIGHTING RESPONSE FORCE, WHICH IS REALLY JUST A LARGE FIRE TRUCK THAT PROVIDES A SPECIAL KIND OF FOAM FOR AIRCRAFT CRASHES.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE THERE. THEY HAVE TWO OF THOSE.

THEY'RE A FRONT LINE AND A RESERVE, AND THEY HAVE TWO PRIVATE FIREFIGHTERS OWNED BY, RUN THROUGH A COMPANY CALLED PROTECH, AND THEY WORK ABOUT 19 HOURS A DAY. EVERYTHING ELSE, IF THERE'S A STRUCTURE FIRE, IF THERE'S A MEDICAL AID, IF THERE'S A BRUSH FIRE WHEN THE PLANE CRASHES, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE PLANE ANY TYPE OF ANYTHING ELSE, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, EVENTS, THOSE ARE ALL HANDLED BY YOUR LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND ON THE LARGER INCIDENTS, WE'LL USE OUR AUTOMATIC AID FROM NEIGHBORING AGENCIES AROUND US.

SINCE THIS IS COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY, COUNTY OWNED AIRPORT, IS IT OUR FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO HANDLE THAT, OR DO WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY THAT WE PROVIDE THESE SERVICES TO THEIR FACILITY? I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY CONTRACT IN PLACE. I HAVE LOOKED FOR DOCUMENTS SUCH AS AN MOU OR AN ASSISTANCE BY HIRE.

THERE'S VARIOUS WAYS THAT AIRPORTS DEAL WITH THIS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND EVEN WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND OURS,

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THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING INTO AND WILL CONTINUE TO EXPLORE FOR MANY YEARS.

THE, OUR FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROVIDING THE SERVICES TO THE AIRPORT WAS LIMITED TO RELATIVELY SMALL AIRPLANES. NOW THAT WE HAVE COMMERCIAL JETS WITH, I'M GUESSING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FUEL.

AND OF COURSE, A LOT OF PASSENGERS, IS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT EQUIPPED TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE IN THE, AND IF THERE'S EVER A CRASH AT THE AIRPORT. OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT BY ITSELF IS NOT EQUIPPED BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THAT SPECIALIZED VEHICLE THAT IS AT THE AIRPORT AND STAFFED BY PROTECH WITH US IN COMBINATION WITH THEM, WE ARE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT THROUGH OUR AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENTS. HOWEVER, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE FAA WHERE THERE'S CERTAIN TRAINING THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.

THERE'S A TRAINING, A LARGE TRAINING EVENT CALLED THEIR TRI ANNUAL DRILL THAT OCCURS EVERY THREE YEARS THAT WE PULL IN WITH THE AIRPORT STAFF, AND WE ABSORB A TON OF ADMINISTRATIVE TIME IN IN PUTTING THAT DRILL TOGETHER.

WHERE WE SIMULATE A LARGE SCALE EVENT LIKE A LARGE PASSENGER, 70 PASSENGER AIRPLANE CRASHING, AND WE HAVE HAD PLANES CRASH AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY AND INTO BUILDINGS.

WE'VE HAD PLANES CRASH ON, ON THE GOLF COURSE AND I'VE UNFORTUNATELY HAD RESPONDED ON SOME OF THOSE AND THEY ARE VERY DIFFICULT EVENTS.

BUT WE CAN HANDLE THEM IN COMBINATION AS LONG AS THE TRAINING CONTINUES.

HOWEVER, IT IS A BURDEN ON OUR STAFF. OKAY, BEFORE I THANK THE CHIEF, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CHIEF? OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ONE NOT TOO LONG AGO. JASON, WE SENT A LETTER TO THE FAA ASKING FOR THE VNAP TO TO DROP THE VOLUNTARY PORTION.

AND I UNDERSTAND WE WERE REJECTED, BUT THAT WAS BEFORE WE HAD COMMERCIAL AIRLINES THERE.

DO YOU THINK THAT BY NOW SAYING THINGS ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE COMMERCIAL AIRLINES AT OUR AIRPORT, WE WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THE FAA DROPPING THE THE V OFF OF VNAP? THANKS FOR THE QUESTION, MAYOR. I DON'T THINK A REQUEST LIKE THAT WOULD HONESTLY BE EFFECTIVE IN LIGHT OF A COUPLE OF THINGS, PRIMARILY ONE OF THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORKS THAT WERE DESCRIBED AT THE RECENT FAA WEBINAR RELATES TO A FEDERAL LAW THAT RELATES TO AIRPORT OPERATIONS, AND THERE ARE A COUPLE PROVISIONS THAT PROVIDE THRESHOLDS THAT ARE UNLIKELY TO BE MET IN TERMS OF TRANSITIONING THE VNAP TO A MANDATORY RESTRICTION.

ONE OF THEM IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE A FINDING THAT ANY RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON AIRPORT OPERATIONS CANNOT IMPEDE INTERSTATE COMMERCE IN ANY WAY, AND ALSO CANNOT IN ANY WAY DIMINISH OR IMPEDE THE NATIONAL OPERATION OF THE NATIONAL AVIATION SYSTEM. AND IT APPEARS THAT THOSE THRESHOLDS ARE INSURMOUNTABLE IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING MANDATORY RESTRICTIONS, TO THE POINT THAT SINCE THE LAW WAS PASSED, I BELIEVE IN 1980, NO, NO MANDATORY RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN PLACED ON ANY AIRPORT IN THE COUNTRY.

THANK YOU. SOME OF THE SPEAKERS WERE CONCERNED WITH HEALTH ISSUES.

WHO'S, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR EITHER MONITORING OR ENFORCING DIFFERENT TYPES OF HEALTH ISSUES.

WOULD IT BE THE EPA OR COUNTY HEALTH WHO WHO LOOKS AT THAT? YES. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF THOSE PUBLIC HEALTH TYPE PROVISIONS AIR POLLUTION CONTROL CONTROL DISTRICT AND WATER QUALITY CONTROL DISTRICT, PARTICULARLY RELATE TO EMISSIONS OR OTHER ELEMENTS COMING OFF OF THE AIRPORT PROPERTY.

THEY FALL RELATIVELY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S PURVIEW AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

OKAY. SINCE WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY AGREED ON CAN I ASK THAT YOU PREPARE LETTERS TO, WHETHER IT BE TO COUNTY HEALTH, TO THE COUNTY, TO FAA, WHOEVER.

THAT WOULD FALL UNDER OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING THEM BACK TO THE COUNCIL AGAIN.

AND PREPARE THOSE THOSE LETTERS FOR A MAYORAL SIGNATURE TO BE SENT OUT.

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THIS IS A RECEIVER REPORT. SO YOU ACTUALLY CAN'T TAKE ACTION ON ANYTHING TONIGHT.

YOU COULD, IT WOULD ONLY BE BRING BACK UNLESS IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THE MAYOR SUGGESTED THAT DIDN'T REQUIRE COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION AT ALL.

OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND WITH WITH THAT, MR. HABER, WOULD YOU MIND JUST BRINGING UP THE SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS, PLEASE? CERTAINLY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HOW ABOUT COMMENTS? SORRY, I'M STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF. OH. I'M SORRY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. PERFECT. OKAY. I KNOW MISS MCMAHON, YOU MENTIONED THAT WE COULDN'T NECESSARILY TAKE ACTION, BUT I DO SEE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I DID HAVE A QUESTION EARLIER AROUND WHETHER WE COULD DO SOME FORM OF A LETTER OR ADVOCACY. I KNOW THE MAYOR JUST MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, LETTERS THAT FALL WITHIN OUR PLATFORM AND IT'S WITHIN THAT PURVIEW.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR ON HERE THAT WE NEED TO THEN EITHER REVISIT IF WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION ON IT TONIGHT, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TAKING SOME FORM OF ACTION WHETHER TONIGHT OR IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE RESPOND TO THAT, I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A MINUTE MOTION, BUT BASED ON WHAT WAS JUST SHARED, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO. THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM.

IN LOOKING AT OUR PLATFORM, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL POSITION STATEMENTS RELATIVE TO THE AIRPORT THAT ARE WORDED BROADLY ENOUGH THAT I BELIEVE COULD COVER MOST OF THE ITEMS, IF NOT ALL, OF THE ITEMS LISTED HERE UNDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER.

STAFF COULD GO AHEAD AND PREPARE A LETTER CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM.

OKAY, GREAT. AND I KNOW THAT TO TO CONFIRM I WOULD AND THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR OUR REPRESENTATIVES FOR MISS ANDERSON AND MR. GREENING, BECAUSE I WOULD ASSUME A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WOULD BE AROUND THE NOISE COMPLAINTS. I SEE THAT UP THERE. WITH REGARDS TO THE FLIGHT PATTERNS, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE PILOT EDUCATION MATERIALS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. OKAY. I'M SEEING HEAD NODS FROM MR. GREENING AND MISS ANDERSON. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WOULD COVER WHAT WAS ASKED OF US.

BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING HOLISTIC IN OUR ASK.

SO AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL COVER WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.

SO APPRECIATE THAT. DO YOU WANT US TO DO COMMENTS AS WELL OR DO YOU WANT TO CHECK FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S FINISH THE QUESTION. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. COMMENTS? MISS BHAT-PATEL. OKAY, GREAT.

YES. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT CONTINUES TO ENGAGE ON THIS.

I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FOR SO MANY YEARS, EVEN BEFORE, PREDATES ME THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THIS.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE PUTTING IN.

OF COURSE MISS ANDERSON AND MR. GREENING, ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN VOLUNTARILY TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

AND MISS ANDERSON, FOR YOUR VERY THOROUGH NOTES OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

I KNOW THAT MUST TAKE SO MUCH TIME, AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE WE ARE GOING TO BE SENDING IN THOSE LETTERS, SO I HOPE THAT THAT'LL BE AT LEAST ONE STEP IN WHAT YOU ALL HAVE ASKED, AND APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL CAME UP WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH.

I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND DIFFERENT HOAS, AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT I'M SEEING WHAT YOU ALL ARE SEEING.

OF COURSE, I LIVE VERY CLOSE BY AS WELL, SO I GET TO SEE THINGS AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT FALLING ON US.

YOU KNOW, I'M DEFINITELY HEARING ALL OF IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ALL CAN THINK OF, FEEL FREE TO ALWAYS REACH OUT.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I CAN BE DOING, DEFINITELY LET ME KNOW.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THESE LETTERS GET SENT TO THE COUNTY.

OTHER COMMENTS. MISS ACOSTA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF FOR FOR YOUR HARD WORK, AND ESPECIALLY THANK YOU TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES ON THE PACK.

MR. GREENING AND MISS ANDERSON, YOU WORK REALLY HARD.

YOU SHARE YOUR NOTES. I KNOW THAT IT'S FRUSTRATING AND CAN BE A DIFFICULT TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE RUNNING IN PLACE AND NOT GETTING AS MUCH DONE AS AS YOU WOULD LIKE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR HARD WORK.

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I KNOW THAT WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOU AND THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

IT IS ALSO FRUSTRATING FOR ME. MY DISTRICT IS A LITTLE FURTHER.

I DON'T HEAR AS MUCH FROM MY RESIDENTS, BUT I STILL HEAR FROM MY COMMUNITY ABOUT WEIGHING IN ON THE AIRPORT ISSUES.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE LETTERS, YOU KNOW, WE WILL KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

AND JUST KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE AND THAT WE'RE OPEN TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

THANK YOU. MR. BURKHOLDER ANY COMMENTS? MR. SHIN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION FOR EVERYBODY.

AND A LOT LIKE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ACOSTA JUST SAID YOU KNOW, ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO IS LISTEN AND HEARD I, YOU KNOW, TO NOT HAVE TO ECHO. THEN A COUPLE OF THINGS I DO WANT TO SAY IS THAT AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS HAD STATED EARLIER, WE ARE TAKING QUITE OF AN INVESTMENT IN REGARDS TO THE LEGAL ACTIONS OF WHAT'S TAKING PLACE WITH THE COUNTY AND OURSELVES.

AND WITH THAT COMES A SENSE OF STOICISM THAT I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE TO SEE OUT OF US, BUT JUST MIND YOU, THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE THAT WAY JUST BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S COMMENTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE BEHIND THE SCENES, YOU KNOW, WITHIN TRIAL. SO I JUST DON'T WANT ANYONE TO EVER THINK THAT OUR SLIGHT MUTENESS IS A, IS A REASON AS THOUGH YOU'RE NOT BEING HEARD.

YOU'RE BEING HEARD VERY, VERY WELL THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND I THINK I WANT TO MAKE THE JOKE THAT JASON'S BEARD USED TO BE BROWN WITH ALL THE AIRPORT ISSUES, IT'S CHANGED TO TONE. SO HE'S, HE'S THERE AND I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I THINK HIS RESPONSE HAS BEEN VERY TIMELY FOR ALL OF YOU WHEN, WHEN MATTERS ARE YOU KNOW, VERY APPARENT. LAST BUT NOT LEAST YOU KNOW, WHAT THE MAYOR HAD BROUGHT UP IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS CLEARLY VERY DEAR TO MY HEART. I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT A RESPONSE THAT WAS STATED BY THE COUNTY IN REGARDS TO THE FIRE SUPPRESSION AND PREVENTION WITHIN THE AIRPORT, AS WELL AS THE, THE SURROUNDING AREAS IN THE COUNTY.

THERE IS A CONVERSATION THAT WILL BE INITIATED PRETTY SOON IN REGARDS TO THAT.

I'LL KIND OF, I DON'T, I WON'T EXHAUST AD NAUSEAM OF WHAT THAT IS CURRENTLY, BUT IT WILL BE COMING.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. NEXT IS ITEM 14.

[14. INFORMATIONAL REPORT ON THE REGULATION OF OFFSHORE AND ONSHORE OIL DRILLING FACILITIES – Receive an informational report on the regulation of offshore and onshore oil drilling facilities within and near the City of Carlsbad, and direct staff as appropriate. (Staff contact: Eric Lardy, Community Services) ]

YES. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR OUR STAFF FOR PREPARING THIS REPORT.

I BROUGHT THIS UP FOR A COUPLE REASONS. ONE HAVING WORKED AS A CITY STAFF MEMBER IN THE CITY OF CULVER CITY, THERE WAS A GIANT OIL FIELD CALLED THE ENGLEWOOD OIL COMPLEX.

WITH THAT, THERE WAS PHASED OUT OF CLOSING THAT OIL FIELD AS WELL AS NOT ALLOWING FUTURE OIL ONSHORE OIL DRILLING TO TAKE PLACE. WHEN I STARTED LOOKING, WHICH I, I BELIEVE MR. LARDY WILL PRESENT, THERE WAS I TOOK AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ OUR ORDINANCES COVER TO COVER AND THERE WERE THERE WERE ASPECTS OF THE ORDINANCES THAT GAVE ME PAUSE AND CONCERNS.

ONE OF THEM HAPPENED TO BE ABOUT STATEMENTS OF ONSHORE OIL DRILLING AND REGULATIONS FOR IT, WHERE IT WAS KIND OF CONFUSING, WHERE IT ALMOST SEEMED LIKE THAT WE HAD THAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE IT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT OUR REGULATIONS WERE CURRENTLY. SO HOPEFULLY MR. LARDY CAN PRESENT THAT TO US NOW. GREAT. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'M ERIC LARDY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, REPORTING BACK ON THE MINUTE MOTION FROM FEBRUARY 10TH, 2026 RELATED TO CURRENT REGULATIONS FOR ON AND OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING, MANUFACTURING AND REFINING.

THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE SEPARATED INTO DISCUSSIONS ON ONSHORE DRILLING AND OFFSHORE DRILLING, AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES IN EACH AREA. FIRST, WE'LL START WITH OFFSHORE DRILLING.

THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT REGULATES OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING FROM THREE TO AT LEAST 200 NAUTICAL MILES OFF SHORE. IN APRIL 2025, THEY INITIATED A PROCESS TO DEVELOP A FIVE YEAR OIL AND GAS LEASING PROGRAM.

IF APPROVED, THAT PROGRAM WOULD BEGIN IN 2027 AND INCLUDES SIX LEASE SITES OFF CALIFORNIA COAST.

THE STATE'S JURISDICTION IS FROM THE MEAN HIGH TIDE LINE, SO THE TOP OF THE BEACH TO THREE MILES OFFSHORE.

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MORE RECENTLY, THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL ACTIONS STARTING IN 1994 AND AGAIN IN 2018, WHERE THE STATE STRENGTHENED THE LAWS TO PROHIBIT NEW OIL AND GAS INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND IN 2023, THEY AMENDED THE COASTAL ACT TO PROHIBIT NEW OR EXPANDED FACILITIES.

THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF JURISDICTION WITH THE FEDERAL JURISDICTION ON THE MOST OUTWARD PART OF THE OFFSHORE, THE STATE JURISDICTION THREE MILES INLAND, AND THEN THE CITY'S JURISDICTION, WHICH STARTS AT THE TOP OF THE BEACH AT THE MEAN HIGH TIDE LINE, GOING UPLAND INTO THE CITY. WHILE THE CITY HAS NO ABILITY TO RESTRICT OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING, THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF OPPOSING OFFSHORE DRILLING GOING BACK TO THE 1980S AT LEAST.

IN 2018, THE CITY FORMALLY ADDED BY RESOLUTION TO THE CITY'S LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM OPPOSITION TO OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPTED IN ALL LEGISLATIVE PLATFORMS SINCE THAT TIME.

EVEN RECENTLY, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, THE CITY SENT A LETTER SUPPORTING SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION 12 OPPOSING OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT THREE TO THE STAFF REPORT.

AS FAR AS OPPORTUNITIES, THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM CURRENTLY HAS PROHIBITIONS TO OPPOSE NEW OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING TO SUPPORT DECOMMISSIONING OF EXISTING OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND TO SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT REQUIRES DOUBLE HOLES FOR ALL OIL TANKERS.

SINCE OUR AUTHORITY IS LIMITED TO BRING OPPORTUNITIES.

OUR OPPORTUNITIES ARE THROUGH ADVOCACY OR DIRECTING STAFF TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE LEASES THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS PROPOSING.

A SAMPLE RESOLUTION IS INCLUDED THAT THE CITY OF CORONADO PASSED AND IS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT SIX TO THE STAFF REPORT.

NEXT, WE WILL TALK ABOUT ONSHORE OIL DRILLING AND REFINING FACILITIES.

FEDERALLY, THE REGULATIONS ARE LIMITED BECAUSE THERE'S NO FEDERAL LANDS AND THERE'S NO MINERAL OIL RIGHTS HELD BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

STATE LAWS HAVE CONTINUED TO PASS RELATED TO ONSHORE OIL DRILLING AND FACILITIES AS WELL.

SENATE BILL 1137 FROM 2022 PROHIBITS FACILITIES WITHIN 3200FT OF SENSITIVE USES.

SENSITIVE USES INCLUDES HOUSING, SCHOOLS, PARKS, DAYCARE CENTERS, COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTERS, HEALTH CARE FACILITIES AND BUILDINGS WITH BUSINESSES OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, IN THIS LARGE BUFFER, THE CITY IS ENTIRELY RESTRICTED TO THESE SENSITIVE USES.

ADDITIONAL BILLS PASSED AT THE STATE LEVEL IN 2024 ALSO GIVE THE CITY BETTER AUTHORITY TO LIMIT AND PROHIBIT OIL AND GAS OPERATIONS.

THE CITY DOES HAVE REGULATIONS THAT WERE ENACTED IN 1989 THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR LIMITED ONSHORE FACILITIES, ALLOWING THEM IN OUR HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONES.

AT THE TIME THE REGULATIONS WERE ESTABLISHED, THE CITY ATTORNEY ADVISED AGAINST PROHIBITING AGAINST FACILITIES DUE TO LITIGATION RISK.

THERE ARE NO FACILITIES IN THE CITY AND IMPLEMENTATION OF STATE LAW, AND THESE REGULATIONS WOULD PRECLUDE OIL AND GAS FACILITIES.

THE ABILITY FOR ONSHORE DRILLING AND FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY ARE ALREADY RESTRICTED SIGNIFICANTLY BY THE STATE RESTRICTIONS AND MUNICIPAL CODE.

THERE ARE NO FACILITIES THAT PROPOSED AND IF THEY WERE PROPOSED, THEY WOULD BE TOLD THE STATE LAW AND OUR LOCAL RESTRICTIONS PROHIBIT THEM.

BUT AS AUTHORIZED BY THAT 2022 BILL, ASSEMBLY BILL 3233, THE COUNCIL COULD DIRECT STAFF TO REMOVE ANY REFERENCE TO OIL AND GAS FACILITIES FROM THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM TO REMOVE THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE 1980S.

ON THE SLIDE NOW IS ONE OF THOSE SECTIONS FROM THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE SHOWING THAT OIL AND GAS FACILITIES WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE CM, WHICH IS OUR HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONE AND WHICH IS OUR MANUFACTURING ZONE, AND PM, WHICH IS OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONE FOR OIL AND GAS FACILITIES AND PROHIBITED IN ALL OTHER ZONES. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING ORDINANCE IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE ON THE BOOKS.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

JASON HABER IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM AND ADVOCACY EFFORTS.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS QUESTIONS.

MR.. SHIN. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.

THE CODE THAT WE HAVE UP RIGHT NOW, IN ORDER TO STRIKE AWAY THAT LANGUAGE, IT WOULD REQUIRE ESSENTIALLY THE SECOND OPTION OF THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS. CORRECT? CORRECT.

IT WOULD REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION TO US TO PROCESS THAT.

WE WOULD NEED TO ADD THAT TO OUR WORK PROGRAM AND LOOK AND SEE IF IT HAD ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DELAY.

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IT WOULD REQUIRE A HEARING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE TWO HEARINGS AT CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEN BECAUSE OUR LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM IS ALSO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, IT WOULD NEED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION AND A 1 TO 2 YEAR PROCESS BEFORE IT WAS EFFECTIVE CITYWIDE. GOT IT. AND THAT AUTHORITY IS GIVEN TO US THROUGH AB3233 YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY, GREAT. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? MR. SHIN? YEAH, I JUST HAVE THE ONE COMMENT. YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT WHEN I LOOK THROUGH ORDINANCES IN OUR CITY, I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE CONFUSED BY THEM WHATSOEVER.

AND WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS TOPIC COMES UP AND THIS TOPIC IS A LITTLE BIT GREATER THAN JUST WHAT WE SEE HERE IN THE CITY, AND WE'RE KIND OF CHECKING IT OUT ON THE NEWS. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S LAWMAKERS AHEAD OF US THAT ARE MAKING ATTEMPTS IN REGARDS TO OFFSHORE THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO, THERE WAS ASSEMBLY MEMBER DON ADDIS WHO DID CREATE THIS AB 3233, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO ACTUALLY HAVE LOCAL CONTROL OVER SOMETHING, WHICH IS NICE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT SAYING, I I LOOK AT MY DAUGHTERS, I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THIS CARLSBAD HERE WILL NEVER HAVE SOMETHING THAT I USED TO SEE WHEN I LIVED IN HUNTINGTON BEACH, LONG BEACH AND WORKED IN CULVER CITY. SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION.

I KNOW THERE MAY BE OTHER COMMENTS TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CARLSBAD MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM, THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS FOR THE CITY COASTAL ZONE TO PROHIBIT ONSHORE OIL AND GAS FACILITIES IN ANY ZONE OF CARLSBAD.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? MISS ACOSTA, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE THAT THE MOTION AND THE THE TOPIC WAS BROUGHT FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHIN. AND INITIALLY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, I JUST KEPT THINKING, WE HAVE DONE SO MUCH AND THERE WERE EVEN SOME THINGS THAT WEREN'T IN THE REPORT LIKE THAT I WAS, I WENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF CARLSBAD TO A PRESS CONFERENCE WITH CONGRESSMAN LEVIN THAT HE HE HOSTED TO TALK ABOUT, BUT A DRILLING. BUT IT WAS OFFSHORE. SO REALLY HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT ONSHORE IS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND I AGREE THAT WE WANT TO CLOSE ANY POTENTIAL LOOPHOLES.

SO I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION AS WELL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR AGENDA. MR. SHIN COMMENTS.

[COUNCIL COMMENTARY AND REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MATTERS]

TO KIND OF SEE WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN DENVER IN REGARDS TO THEIR, THEIR GROWTH AND THEIR SUSTAINABILITY AND DEVELOPMENT.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT WITH SOME OF OUR STAFF. MISS BURKHOLDER.

AFTER LONG AWAIT BARONS MARKET IS OPENING THIS SATURDAY AND I WILL BE THERE AT 10 A.M..

LOOKING VERY MUCH FORWARD TO THIS. HELLO. HUSBAND, YOU WILL NOT BE GETTING HOMEMADE FOOD ANYMORE.

ART IN THE VILLAGE IS ON SUNDAY. IT ALSO STARTS AT TEN.

AND THEN MR. SHIN AND I ARE GOING TO BE CONDUCTING OUR FIRST VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY AT 10 A.M. AS WELL. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY IS LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND I'M ONLY SAYING THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING IN BETWEEN THEN AND IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

SO LEGISLATIVE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE 7TH OF JULY AT 9 A.M.

HERE IN THESE CHAMBERS AND HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY.

THANKS, MISS ACOSTA. THANK YOU. LAST FRIDAY, WE OPENED THE SEASON OF TGIF CONCERTS IN THE PARKS AT STAGECOACH PARK.

IT WAS A COUNTRY BAND, WAS THE FIRST OPENING ACT, AND I HAD THE THE HONOR OF BEING ABLE TO INTRODUCE THEM.

THIS FRIDAY WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER BAND AT THAT SAME PARK AT STAGECOACH AND IT WILL BE A BRASS BAND BEFORE THE CONCERT BEGINS. THERE IS AN ACTIVITY THAT IS PAID FOR BY THE, THE CHECK THAT WE JUST RECEIVED EARLIER THIS THIS EVENING FROM THE FRIENDS OF THE THE ARTS AND AT THE LAST CONCERT WAS A LINE DANCING LESSON.

I HEARD THAT AT THIS. THIS NEXT FRIDAY'S CONCERT, IT WILL BE A SWING DANCING LESSON, SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF YOU SHOW UP, YOU'LL FIND OUT. HAPPY, HAPPY BELATED FATHER'S DAY AND HAPPY BELATED JUNETEENTH.

I ATTENDED A JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION IN OCEANSIDE FOR NORTH ALL OF NORTH COUNTY ON SATURDAY, AND IT WAS FANTASTIC. I WAS HOSTED BY NORTH COUNTY NAACP THIS THURSDAY.

I HAVE THE WATER AUTHORITY MEETING ALL DAY, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

THERE'S SO MUCH HAPPENING AT THE WATER AUTHORITY.

FOLKS ARE WELCOME TO TUNE IN ONLINE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO A WONDERFUL INDEPENDENCE DAY AND WISHING YOU ALL A GREAT WEEK, MISS BHAT-PATEL. YES. THANK YOU. LAST WEEK WE HAD THE NCTD BOARD MEETING WHERE WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET.

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IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED AND HE PROVIDED SOME FEDERAL UPDATES THERE, AS WELL AS ANSWERED QUESTIONS IN REAL TIME FROM RESIDENTS.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATED HIS TIME AND OF COURSE, ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE CLEAN ENERGY ALLIANCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING THIS WEEK AS WELL.

I'LL BE STEPPING IN FOR SANDAG BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING ON FRIDAY.

I TOO WILL BE AT THE BARON'S MARKET ON SATURDAY.

LOOKING FORWARD TO ART IN THE VILLAGE. I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW OTHER THINGS NEXT WEEK THAT ARE UPCOMING.

BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT IS HAPPY 250TH BIRTHDAY AMERICA AND ENJOY YOUR 4TH OF JULY.

CITY MANAGER. NOTHING THIS EVENING. CITY ATTORNEY.

NOTHING. THANK YOU. CITY CLERK. AND I HAVE A HANDFUL OF ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

ART IN THE VILLAGE. DOWNTOWN CARLSBAD VILLAGE.

WEDNESDAY, JULY 1ST SHARP TRI-CITY MEDICAL CENTER.

DEDICATION THAT WILL BE AT TRI-CITY MEDICAL CENTER, 4002 VISTA WAY IN OCEANSIDE.

SATURDAY, JULY 4TH. THE CELEBRATION AT THE CARLSBAD STRAWBERRY FIELDS.

THAT'LL BE AT 1050 CANNON ROAD IN CARLSBAD. AND FINALLY, MONDAY, JULY 6TH AT 12:30 P.M.

IS THE VETERANS PARK GROUNDBREAKING EVENT THAT'S VETERANS PARK TRAILS OFF OF FARADAY AVENUE IN CARLSBAD.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.